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Interesting. Threesomes, gay bars, and bi-girls.
/r/seduction02/05/13 06:53 PM
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You get all your farts out before the date. Honestly, the scene in TED the movie that hit me the hardest was when the girl leaves the concert and the dude just lets a huge one go and mumbles finally. Having to fart is just uncomfortable, and this alleviates any of the anxiety that may kick open the door into your date. So let them all out beforehand, man! Oh yeah, and it is good for you and releases endorphins and all that good stuff. Amazing advice.
/r/seduction26/04/13 08:40 PM
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Yep, probably did more damage by avoiding it. In a relationship, generally speaking, be honest when directly asked a question, then deal with what comes afterward in a loving, understanding, and patient way.
/r/seduction20/04/13 07:59 PM
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Over-thinking it. Look, be honest, then move on. If she gives you crap about it later, just say you're indifferent to the whole thing lol.
/r/seduction20/04/13 07:58 PM
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Don't let it be a mental setback. My ex-girlfriends got used to it and found it endearing eventually. In the meantime, every so often press your hands into your clothes or the girl's clothes to get rid of the sweat. It doesn't have to be too awkward. I sometimes have this problem too, and I especially notice it when I'm holding a girl's hands. Sweat means your body is trying to cool down your hands, so my guess is this treatment will help retrain your hands to be okay with an increased temperatu…
/r/seduction16/04/13 03:10 AM
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Except that the girls I date say this to me often, as did all of my ex girlfriends. Just last weekend, a girl I was about to sleep with kept pushing my hands away when I was trying to rub her body/breasts/pussy because my hands were so cold. After half an hour of foreplay, my hands warmed up a little, but it was annoying. Again, it's a small thing and I've dealt with it fine in the past—I wouldn't say it's ever stopped me from getting laid—but I definitely love when a girl's hands and feet are h…
/r/seduction16/04/13 03:02 AM
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[Bro-science Warning] Summary: The Problem The Permanent Solution (Theoretical) The Permanent Solution (Practical) Why I Don't Want to Wear Gloves 1. The Problem I have cold hands and feet. It's not that my hands themselves feel uncomfortable; the issue is that girls complain that my hands are always icy. This is not a huge issue: Usually, I just ask the girl to help me warm my hands and that's that. But this body-hack made me curious, so I want to give it a try. 2. The Permanent Solution (Theor…
/r/seduction16/04/13 12:23 AM
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Profile is mostly funny shit, but still long and descriptive. Copy-paste message is long, fun, and asks some kind of fun question at the end. My reply rate is 14%, and in three weeks, I've gotten over 300 replies. Haven't even responded to a lot of them...no time. And I have so many dates...I literally have to pick between girls because I have too many date options. This all happened over the course of three weeks. My reality is so different now. Kind of nuts how fast it changed. However, I need…
/r/seduction11/04/13 04:32 AM
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Amazing advice. Seeing the other side of the coin is incredibly invaluable. I've recently had ridiculous success with OkCupid and feel like I'm seeing certain things from the woman's perspective for the first time in my life. Experiencing it is such an eye-opener versus just hearing about it.
/r/seduction10/04/13 08:39 PM
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Yeah, I like the girl—she's very sweet and pretty cute. Definitely a 1. Also, I've realized that "hard to get" is sometimes just "shit ain't convenient". For example: This girl works one or more jobs and goes to school. She said she hardly has time for friends. Also, after our first date, I couldn't get in contact with her for almost two weeks—my phone calls were just not going through. I realized that it's possible she lost her phone or something. In fact, that's what happened. I have since had…
/r/seduction10/04/13 05:52 PM
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Glad you're mentioning this. There is sexism on Reddit, Wikipedia, and the internet in general. This subreddit is special because here you may find pockets of particularly sexist people, pockets of particularly unsexist people, and pockets of men who overcompensate by being anti-man in subtle ways they don't even know—after all, Seduction pretty much falls within gender studies. There is the common sentiment that girls often don't give good advice when it comes to Seduction. You know the real tr…
/r/seduction10/04/13 02:38 AM
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I should have linked to the FR where I got the number. http://www.reddit.com/r/puaAthensFRJournal/comments/1afhdd/fr_20130308_friday/
/r/seduction28/03/13 06:42 AM
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Ok, sorry for the mispost.
/r/seduction25/03/13 08:02 AM
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I just texted this to a girl. Her response: Oh really? ;)
/r/seduction25/03/13 06:31 AM
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Porque la policía.
/r/seduction25/03/13 06:30 AM
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Thanks for the reminder. I'm totally indifferent though. This is one of over TWENTY girls who have messaged me today since I changed my profile and opening message style. I'm just wondering if I can turn it around for curiosity's sake. :D
/r/seduction25/03/13 05:53 AM
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Ok, thanks for the tips, especially the humor. I'm definitely struggling with that aspect of it.
/r/seduction25/03/13 05:37 AM
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Get this: I'm half-Middle Eastern, half-Southeast Asian. 90% of people never guess that...so I'm really curious what she thinks I am that not providing my ethnicity is such an issue. lmao And about the jokes: Thanks for the feedback. Yeah, I think she was spot-on about that—I do need to tone it down. Cheers~
/r/seduction25/03/13 05:35 AM
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Yeah, I think so. In which case, I'd like to point out how ridiculous she's being.
/r/seduction25/03/13 05:33 AM
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Yeah, either a bigot or shit testing for a weirdass reason.
/r/seduction25/03/13 05:08 AM
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Thanks, that was helpful. So, do I simply not respond, or?
/r/seduction25/03/13 05:08 AM
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Most of the time, you do not get responses to your messages—say 90% of the time. And each message takes a few minutes to write, say 6 minutes if you do the recommended targeted message. 100 messages is needs 600 minutes or 10 hours. That's 9 hours you just spent to get zero social feedback. 9 hours of cold approach pickup will get you shit-tons of social feedback. It's a better use of your time in terms of personal and social development if you ask me.
/r/seduction24/03/13 11:31 AM
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Although, from the guys perspective, the terms of the contract could have been different: It was the girl didn't who realize her actions were an acceptance of his terms for friendship, and that his actions were not yet an acceptance of her terms for romance. In that sense, there was a mutual misunderstanding of the nature of the contract. Because if there wasn't this mutual misunderstanding, OP wouldn't have been so surprised, and the girl wouldn't have reacted so aggressively.
/r/seduction23/03/13 10:33 PM
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Ok, after thinking about it more, I feel you're right. But he might have to deal with her in the future as they go to the same bar and now sort of have the same friends. I still think he should have something prepared to say that deescalates. Perhaps: Listen, about last time: It wasn't my intention to lead you on, but I did want to hang out. I didn't realize that would hurt you so much. To which she might reply, "No, no, it's ok. I didn't mean to freak out at you." In which case, she'd be the on…
/r/seduction23/03/13 06:50 PM
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Maybe because you want to hang out with her. I know there are girls that I've wanted to hang out with but not fuck. How do I hang out with them if not by inviting them to a bar, to grab coffee, or even to watch a movie? Does it look like a date? Yes. But if I don't call it a date, she can't assume it's a date. She can make a move on me and hope for the best, but she isn't guaranteed anything.
/r/seduction23/03/13 12:18 PM
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You realize that "I am seeing someone" (your words) is usually synonymous with "I am dating someone" or even "I have a relationship with someone", right? Leading someone on is more like intentionally tricking a person into believing you are romantically interested when that is not the case at all. Certain actions the OP did could be interpreted as possible signs of romantic interest—possible not definite. His actions could just have easily been plain old platonic interest, which was the case. So…
/r/seduction23/03/13 11:59 AM
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Don't be so simple-minded. You realize that "nice guy" means someone who treats women extra nice in hopes of sleeping with them, right? It's a false niceness laced with neediness, unjustified expectations, and hidden motives. This girl is of no interest to the OP. He has no plans to sleep with her. Instead, he sees her group sometimes at a bar he frequents, and he enjoyed her company and that of her friends. Saying, "Hey, I didn't realize I was hurting you," and offering his hand has nothing to …
/r/seduction23/03/13 06:08 AM
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Yeah, definitely another reason to make peace.
/r/seduction23/03/13 01:55 AM
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Really, because a lot of girls have complained to me that "other guys" seem to put too much value on just the orgasm, that it's like a race to make the girl get off, instead of taking your time with lots of foreplay. Again, I'm not saying the orgasm isn't important. It's definitely something you want to make happen. Anyhow, I've done sexual stuff with 14 or so girls (actual PIV with 6), so I'm definitely no sex guru.
/r/seduction23/03/13 01:53 AM
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Only a Sith deals in absolutes. Seriously, though, the point is not to make it "work", the point it to just be nice, and he'll lose nothing by doing this. And, on top of everything, it's a power move because he's basically telling her that he didn't even notice her enough to realize he hurt her. Then he friend-zones her.
/r/seduction23/03/13 01:24 AM
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Ugh, don't be so abrasive. What I suggested does not contain an apology. I suggested this because it would make the girl feel better while at the same time not allowing her to demonize him in her mind, which may allow her to admit (at least to herself) that she might have overreacted. Also, it would make the friends respect him even more because he did something he didn't have to do for the sake of helping her save face. It would make the world a better place. Plus, agreeing to make peace with a…
/r/seduction23/03/13 01:17 AM
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And even the orgasm isn't the most important part. Just give her some foreplay and attention.
/r/seduction23/03/13 12:09 AM
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It's for men and women. It's three shots spaced out over a few months. They recommend it for people under 26 because, at least if I understood correctly, you're much more likely to have HPV, so it's probably too late. The reasons why they don't give it to men in the US, possibly including supply, cost, risk, etc. However, I think some other countries, such as Australia, men are given the vaccine as well. But I agree: Other than "use a condom", everything I know about STDs comes from my own resea…
/r/seduction23/03/13 12:06 AM
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Don't worry about it. She's probably just not used to being rejected—most cute chicks aren't. Maybe be say something like, "Hey, listen, about last time: I didn't mean to be insensitive. I think you're a cool chick, that's why I didn't want to shut you down and hurt you. Friends?"
/r/seduction23/03/13 12:01 AM
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You made me feel a lot better about this. I will do some research to confirm. Thank you.
/r/seduction22/03/13 06:39 PM
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Body: If you are at a healthy weight, she'll be fine with your body. Women (and men actually) don't care that much once you get to the point of having sex. Sex: Take it slow. You don't need to be naked to have certain kinds of sex, and the motions will be very similar. Have you dry-humped before? Basically, having sex...usually missionary position, but with clothes on. Same motions. That will teach your body how to do it. STDs: Use a condom. Don't go down on the girl if you're so worried. If you…
/r/seduction22/03/13 10:23 AM
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Roger. Wilco.
/r/seduction22/03/13 08:31 AM
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No clue. :D
/r/seduction22/03/13 07:16 AM
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How do you feel about a more traditional interpretation about aloofness? I can tell you're a player. That's nice. Any other clever observations? How many girls have you slept with? Uh...weird question. Try something more normal, like...'What do you do for fun?' or 'If you could control one dream completely, what's three things you'd do?' You're too young. Right. And that makes you how old? Not field-tested. Just curious about your opinion about a somewhat abrasive kind of aloofness.
/r/seduction22/03/13 04:01 AM
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Ok, thank you. :)
/r/seduction22/03/13 03:51 AM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/teaching/comments/1as3d8/questions_before_after_or_not_at_all/ Someone, hehe.
/r/seduction22/03/13 03:47 AM
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I can tell you're a player. How many girls have you slept with? Give me your number and I'll call you. Sorry, I don't give my number out to strangers. You're too young. You're too old. You're too short. Also, these all seem like self-deprecating humor to me: "Whyy does every girl keep asking me that??" "Because I don't know how to talk to girls!! Will you teach me?" "Because I don't know how to talk to girls!! Will you teach me?"
/r/seduction22/03/13 02:58 AM
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Don't say, "Whatever, you're miss." That sounds butt-hurt.
/r/seduction22/03/13 02:23 AM
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Yes.
/r/seduction22/03/13 02:20 AM
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Immediately followed up by: "So, when we have sex later, it doesn't count."
/r/seduction22/03/13 02:08 AM
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Confirmed: The "Depends" line led to a make-out immediately, within minutes of meeting the girl.
/r/seduction22/03/13 02:03 AM
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Aloofness is cockiness without being cocky, self-deprecating without being self-deprecating, and what makes an aloof comment different from any other response you'd give to a shit-test is that you're showing that you don't take yourself too seriously. All your examples seem no different to me than being cocky/funny or self-deprecating. Maybe I don't get it. Cocky/funny and self-deprecating usually show that you don't take yourself too seriously by definition, at least that's my understanding. In…
/r/seduction22/03/13 01:30 AM
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Thanks. I will look them up.
/r/seduction21/03/13 10:59 PM
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Such as? Which deities do you espouse? ;)
/r/seduction21/03/13 06:06 PM
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Also, I'll reconsider the questions section. If you remember, one commentator mentioned it would be a good addition, but you have a point.
/r/seduction21/03/13 03:51 PM
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wonder if it goes past 9000 It can: ( [# of FCloses]*50 )1.8172 --> Three FCloses in one night > 9000. :P I'll definitely try the speed meditating shit. Also, I think when I start tripping, just focus on short-setting and reveling in looking absurd and letting everything just be a social experiment. Agreed: Much of my food is nuts, seeds, avocados, etc. Agreed: No booze, caffeine, drugs, etc. Detaching mood: Good point. I need to work on this. I should check out TofuTofu's back story. He's part …
/r/seduction21/03/13 03:50 PM
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How could I have missed it. ;)
/r/seduction21/03/13 03:49 PM
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Pus, to be fair, approaching (and not hooking) 21 women is 21 points. If you hook a third of those, that's 35 points. Versus 23 points from approaching, hooking, making out, then number closing one girl. So, even your example illustrates that perhaps the current system is not that bad. :) I may be doing it differently than intended, though. If I approach 21 people, then hook 7 of them, I count the approach (1 point), then the conversation (2 points), for a total of 3 points. It's just easier to …
/r/seduction21/03/13 03:04 PM
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Probably a system that rewards volume of approaches (for example: pointsFromApproaches = approaches1.2) would be better, but it's not to be taken too seriously. It's just a dumb game to encourage the habits of "Approach All", "Minimize Time Between Approaches", and Plowing. If you don't like the points, you can always play 30 Seconds or Point&Shoot with a wingman. Plus
/r/seduction21/03/13 02:25 PM
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Points Action ------------------ 01 Approach 02 Conversation 05 #Close 10 Bounce 15 KClose 30 Pull 50 FClose
/r/seduction21/03/13 06:15 AM
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Try RSD. Their youtube videos, especially Tyler's and Julien's, blow my mind on a daily basis.
/r/seduction21/03/13 01:20 AM
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Cheers! Thanks.
/r/seduction20/03/13 06:24 PM
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I've been surfing the internet too long—I hardly even notice ads. It they start talking, I mute.
/r/seduction20/03/13 06:22 PM
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There's a lot of theory here, a lot of routines, a lot of canned stuff. There is a lot of gold on that site. I know many people on this board aren't big fans of routines. However, I recommend that anytime you see a routine, write it out in a spreadsheet, then try to deconstruct it. See why it works the way it does. Your mind will start seeing how conversations can be structured and you can internalize the principles. And remember, Inner Game and Outer Game are both important—in every discipline:…
/r/seduction20/03/13 12:38 PM
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Dude, it's general advice. You don't think that financial stability helps somewhat in the long-run? Sure, as far as pick up is concerned, if your game is tight, you can have such an awesome interaction that your job never comes up. But it's a scientific fact (Stress: Portrait of a Killer) that being on a lower rung of society increases the stress and depression one feels. Having a job you are proud of will help with your inner game for sure. And, of course, there's that statistic passed around w…
/r/seduction19/03/13 07:15 AM
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Sure, but let's define what it means to be more than just a human animal. Usually, choice has something to do with it—the ability to choose what to do with the cards you've been dealt, to choose what influences (books, friends, movies, etc.) surround you. The Physical: Take your health into your own hands instead of letting the normal course of modern living (processed foods and an often sedentary life-style) control you. The Mental: Learn the skills necessary to live a driven, productive, and s…
/r/seduction19/03/13 07:06 AM
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What's so wrong with learning that you're a creep and that you need to change? Sounds like they're doing you a service. We are not perfect snowflakes. We can always improve.
/r/seduction19/03/13 06:56 AM
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high five
/r/seduction19/03/13 05:35 AM
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Your mom's overrated. ♥
/r/seduction19/03/13 12:53 AM
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I'm just concerned about my eardrums in general. But you're right, even on the dance floor, it's not that bad at Vertigo.
/r/seduction19/03/13 12:47 AM
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Not really. It just shows that you're trying to date a girl, but if the girl flakes, you're willing to take your friend, when originally, he would have no chance of going. Any guy should not only understand, but appreciate the gesture.
/r/seduction19/03/13 12:36 AM
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The dude should understand that trying to setup a date with a girl is the first priority. It doesn't mean you choose the girl over him, it's just that you're trying to get with a girl. If he doesn't understand, then he's a insecure. I would be totally understanding (even encouraging) if this happened to me.
/r/seduction19/03/13 12:34 AM
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Thanks. Just got these. Should help in Vertigo. ;)
/r/seduction19/03/13 12:31 AM
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Aight, will definitely hit it hard these next six months. I still like keeping the FR journal, just to remember what happened each night out and to keep that habit. Should I stop posting so many FRs?
/r/seduction18/03/13 11:18 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion about warm-up sets. I think it'll be a game changer if I do them. I'll be honest, though: The idea of running around introducing myself to everyone scares me more than introducing myself then trying to stay in. My brain keeps asking me, "Won't people think you're a total dufus if you run around saying, 'Hey, I'm Athens!' then walk to the next group to say, 'Hey, I'm Athens!'" But I keep hearing this piece of advice really works, so I've got to do it. Next time I night g…
/r/seduction18/03/13 11:05 PM
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I like this one a lot.
/r/seduction18/03/13 03:38 AM
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Dancers, musicians, and artists are not robots, yet there is a very important technical aspect to those disciplines. Engineering is very technical, and even often deals with robots and computers, yet engineering is a highly human endeavor, drawing heavily on creativity and inspiration. And to say that ackowledging pick up has a technical component is like saying women are robots is just as silly as saying artists are robots. That's very reductionalist thinking that doesn't ackowledge the complex…
/r/seduction15/03/13 10:06 PM
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Agreed.
/r/seduction15/03/13 05:57 PM
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Haha, yeah I was going for that Bruce Lee reference. I think you're right: The most important thing is to go up and practice. I've just realized that some guys I've met who are extremely good at this don't have that quick, one-line banter thing nailed. That means the one-liners are not necessary, but in terms of hanging out with people in general, I feel they are an amazing social lubricant. There have been countless times where I was too shy to relate to a person, but still thought the person w…
/r/seduction15/03/13 05:56 PM
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Just added section about Cambodian girl. Pretty important lesson about persistence.
/r/seduction15/03/13 05:49 PM
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Ok, thanks. :) I'm planning on editing each post to talk about whether numbers turned into Day 2s or whatever, so that's why I include them.
/r/seduction15/03/13 05:20 PM
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Thanks for the feedback. Some changes/additions: Cambodian Girl: How did I get the number? Well, I think on the one hand, I was just friendly and talkative, she wasn't terribly pretty, her English wasn't the best and maybe she thought she could practice, but on the other hand, maybe she was nervous about giving her at work. Follow up: I texted her but got no reply. Band girls: I merged the set with my group of friends, which went pretty well, but the girls were actually the girlfriends of the gu…
/r/seduction15/03/13 05:19 PM
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Thanks! (Edit: For enthusiasm. lol)
/r/seduction15/03/13 04:58 PM
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Sweet, dude. By the look of it, yeah, it's pretty much what I'm going for.
/r/seduction15/03/13 04:56 PM
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Ok. :)
/r/seduction15/03/13 04:55 PM
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I agree. But both are important, and for a lot of people, this board has gone very far in one direction. This is an effort* to address that concern.
/r/seduction15/03/13 04:54 PM
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Oh, sorry. Bay Area Sedditor. :)
/r/seduction15/03/13 04:53 PM
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I love romantic, cheesy stuff, so I think dropping a note on him would be awesome, and you don't have to deal with talking with an intimidating group of guys. Write something like: Hey! You're always surrounded by a ton of guys...so trying to chat you up can be kind of intimidating! Anyways, I know this is incredibly cheesy...but here's my number. Call me, maybe? :) [Your phone number.] To deliver it, walk up behind him, tap tap on the shoulder. Say, "Here," then give him the note and walk away.…
/r/seduction15/03/13 10:02 AM
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Sweet. I'll be at Westfield tomorrow. ;)
/r/seduction15/03/13 09:47 AM
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NYC is my favorite place to do this stuff, though I just started in SF, so I'm giving it a chance. But honestly, how can you beat a 24/7 subway system with good city penetration and an that is as small and bike-able as Manhattan? Meatpacking to the LES in 20 minutes? How do I love thee, New York? Let me count the ways... I'll hit you up next time I'm in the Big Apple.
/r/seduction15/03/13 09:00 AM
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This is gold. I love this. ♥
/r/seduction15/03/13 08:41 AM
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laserf0cus, I miss NYC. Represent. ;) I lived 10 minutes from NYU.
/r/seduction15/03/13 08:41 AM
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I dunno, bro. I've said to 30 girls, "Hey, uh, I saw you and thought you were dressed really cute and had to talk to you." It wasn't weird other than the fact that I was stopping a girl on the street. Hell, some girls even find it flattering. I mean, pick up is sort of built on the idea of, "Ok, maybe this concept or line could work. Let's go test it out a ton of times and see what the results are." And remember, the idea isn't to, like, know for sure it will work during those 30 tries. The idea…
/r/seduction15/03/13 08:32 AM
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Plus, how does one learn to be witty and spontaneous? By being witty and spontaneous? Doesn't seem very helpful. Like in many other disciplines, perhaps emulation is a good first step.
/r/seduction15/03/13 08:24 AM
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Anyway, I'll give this another day to see if other people like it. If not, I'll delete it.
/r/seduction15/03/13 08:22 AM
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Not sure about that. I remember sitting around listening to my friends banter and a lot of times, they were repeating the same one-liners, sometimes several times in a row. And these one-liners were...not witty by any stretch of the imagination. Still hilarious. What made them funny was the timing and delivery. Sure, one-liners can be witty, but they don't have to be. Also, I don't think anyone will run through a list of five-word phrases. If you use a phrase 30 times in-set, it'll probably just…
/r/seduction15/03/13 08:21 AM
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I also think you overestimate how difficult it is to take a line and calibrate it to different individuals. Maybe it's just me, but there are certain stories, jokes, etc. that come up in conversations just because I am me and have my particular set of experiences. So, where does calibration come in? Delivery. So to me, it makes more sense to say calibration is more about delivery rather than about content. Of course, you don't go up to a grandmother and tell her a dead baby joke, so calibration …
/r/seduction15/03/13 08:17 AM
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Maybe you're right. I eventually would like to be really awesome at banter and one-liners. I've noticed that when hanging out with guys or girls, a ton of fun comes from just dropping one-liners all the time, and I usually feel left out that I can't participate. I've made a big bank of random one-liners from wherever, so I figure if I practice those, my mind will get into the groove. And to be honest, I feel like calibrating one-liners is more about whether the timing is appropriate and whether …
/r/seduction15/03/13 08:12 AM
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How to use this: Take one thing. Do it for 10–30 approaches. If you want, report your results, experiences, etc. on Seddit. There is the sentiment that Seddit is moving away from experimenting, writing up FRs, and discussing techniques. Let's turn the focus back onto doing, onto action.
/r/seduction15/03/13 06:07 AM
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Thanks, dude. Added. Going for more Outer Game stuff, but I'll add it up. Keep 'em coming.
/r/seduction15/03/13 06:04 AM
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Being different with different people is not always a bad thing. Do you joke around with your mom exactly how you do with your friends or with a girl? Maybe you do, but most people don't. If you don't feel you're sacrificing yourself, cool down a bit and spend more time listening. Let her lead too. There's something to be said that most people want to keep their dignity, feel respected, etc. and she may be a little different from most girls. Then if you feel like truly the girl just wants to fee…
/r/seduction15/03/13 03:53 AM
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Also, the best thing for posture is a strong back. Deadlifts Dips Bench Push Ups
/r/seduction15/03/13 03:27 AM
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All free-weight exercises utilize the core. Without extremely strong core muscles when lifting heavy, you will RIP your shit up. And do I need to mention that free-weight exercises your core the way it's meant to be used—for spinal stabilization? Squats Deadlifts Overhead Press Power Cleans Dips And yes, even the Bench Press.
/r/seduction15/03/13 03:26 AM
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Maybe there should be a set of guidelines about what is okay to post. For example: Field Reports Media (Articles, Videos, etc.) Theory (Poster is suggested to have ~100 approaches under their belt.) Etc. If this gets upvotes, I'll message the mods.
/r/seduction15/03/13 03:12 AM
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Ok, then that changes things. lol
/r/seduction14/03/13 08:07 PM
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/r/AskSeddit
/r/seduction14/03/13 10:00 AM
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Wow, "you're such a third derivative of position." With just one text, I am in love.
/r/seduction14/03/13 09:55 AM
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Agreed. I think this is an option we all forget about these days, just because we're all used to texting.
/r/seduction14/03/13 09:52 AM
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Good answer, especially #2. Don't listen to the haters. ♥
/r/seduction14/03/13 09:48 AM
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You've even had sex with her and you're still confused? You're crazy. Go for it already. It may be too late, so you need to go for it.
/r/seduction14/03/13 12:30 AM
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She probably figured you didn't like her and moved on. You need to make a move in a couple days or a week or two.
/r/seduction14/03/13 12:29 AM
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Life is short. Assume it wasn't.
/r/seduction14/03/13 12:28 AM
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Ouch, yeah...that's probably shitty as hell. Well, there is a mall and a movie theater, right? Go there. Does your school have clubs? Do you have a house with roommates or do you live with your family? Consider throwing house parties with no alcohol. Consider joining a TON of clubs and getting to know people. Try to get social, then consider transferring to a different school in NYC, LA, SF, Boston, or some other populated area.
/r/seduction13/03/13 12:38 PM
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Your question probably belongs on r/AskSeddit. To answer your question: Meet at a cafe near your place. Get tea or something similar to go. (Usually makes for a very cheap date—two or three bucks—and there are even tricks to split the bill.) Take her on a walk, sit under a tree to talk, or go to a somewhat fancy hotel lobby/lounge to chat. When you're walking with the girl, walk so that you're walking way too close to her...so your arms are sort of touching. This makes things more romantic and s…
/r/seduction13/03/13 11:57 AM
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Your question probably belongs on r/AskSeddit. To answer your question: I don't know how to meet a girl via Facebook, but my guess is to use the "Do you know such and such person?" feature. Add the person, then send a message being like, "I think I've seen you around somewhere." To transition to meeting, your next message can be, "Hey, you seem pretty chill, not to mention cute. Let's grab some coffee. What does your schedule look like this week?" Push for the meet up. Realize this is a numbers …
/r/seduction13/03/13 11:48 AM
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This question belongs on r/AskSeddit. The solution is to realize: Girls love penises, especially when they're hard. You want a boner when you talk with a girl. When you get a boner, hope she notices. If she's into you, she will get turned on. When you have a boner and a girl is digging you, try to slow dance with the girl, spin her around, then slow dance back-to-chest so she can feel your boner. Girls love it.
/r/seduction13/03/13 11:41 AM
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r/AskSeddit. :)
/r/seduction13/03/13 06:29 AM
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How many girls—even nice, intelligent girls—get into relationship after relationship with jerks? Both my parents are Gen. Physicians and even they comment about how prevalent this phenomenon is among their female patients. Why does it happen? We are biologically programmed to be subconsciously attracted to certain qualities: When a person sees what s/he wants, s/he goes for it. Persistence, even if rudeness is involved. Lives by own rules instead of society's rules. Draws self-esteem and happine…
/r/seduction13/03/13 02:46 AM
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You. I like you.
/r/seduction13/03/13 02:33 AM
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Also, that's a pretty judgmental/harsh thing to say about a person you've never met before.
/r/seduction12/03/13 11:47 PM
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You know, they've been doing it for years upon years, and that hasn't happened yet. I think Owen's clocked in well over a decade.
/r/seduction12/03/13 11:32 PM
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Also, this should go in r/askSeddit.
/r/seduction12/03/13 11:02 PM
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Ignore that advice. It's extremely minor and doesn't happen that much. Just go out and approach thousands of girls. For now, here's what to do: If you've done less than, say, 2000 approaches: If you feel like a girl is seriously trying to take advantage of you in the club, just leave her and open another group of girls. If you don't feel she's trying to take advantage, hold the coat/purse for her, then tell her to come find you in the club. Go approach other girls, but hold her stuff. No problem…
/r/seduction12/03/13 10:46 PM
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So, basically, you want her to be exclusive to you (not date anyone other than you) before she even knows you that well? No comprendo, señor.
/r/seduction12/03/13 07:24 AM
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Hehe, no. The name is homage to the Greek god Athena, who, if I were the Greek pantheon-worshiping type of dude, would totally be my home-gal. I live in the Bay Area, so if you're ever around, we can grab some (ridiculously good) pizza at a place I know in Berkeley. Cheers
/r/seduction12/03/13 07:12 AM
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If you were trying to get with her, then this kind of thing is ok. If you're just cock-blocking for the sake of it, then that's not super cool. I know you probably thought you were doing her a favor, but... She wanted to go back with him, but what you did instead, even though you didn't mean to, was to make her feel like she'd be a slut if she did. Making girls feel judged for being human and wanting some love is not the coolest...It's ok, though. We're all douchey from time to time. And by the …
/r/seduction12/03/13 04:59 AM
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One way to start a convo: Go up to the person. Say, "Hey, you're adorable, so naturally I had to say hi. I'm [name]." She responds. Make sure to let her answer fully because next you'll... You: "What brings you here?" Take one word from a sentence that she said and go off on a tangent about that word. You can use this strategy to perpetuate the conversation. She says, "Work": Cool, I'm in the same boat. Always wondered if I'd get a job that allowed me to travel. I'm still kind of fresh to this t…
/r/seduction12/03/13 04:41 AM
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Ask both out. It's good to have options to prevent getting needy or clingy with one girl. An investor rarely just puts all his money in only one spot, so why would you when it comes to investing in a potential girlfriend?
/r/seduction12/03/13 04:28 AM
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Just to reiterate, the most important thing is that you make a move on her. You have to make a move on her. There are plenty of girls who go on three or more dates, the guy doesn't make a move, so the girl figures either the guy isn't into her enough, or just doesn't have the cajones to kiss her. Making a move is as simple as... Get tea with her from a cafe and take it to-go. Go for a walk with her. At some point, just say, "Hey, this is pretty forward, but all I'm thinking about right now is ki…
/r/seduction12/03/13 04:17 AM
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A good way is to commit to not getting in an exclusive relationship for awhile. Actively try to have three or more girlfriends at the same time. In addition, escalate on the girls you're with very quickly. Completely disregard the fact that it might be awkward or whatever. Ask The next time you see that girl, tell her you want to kiss her. If she leaves, find a different girl. If she kisses you, great, but still go approach other girls so you'll have a second lady in your life. Tell her, "Ok, le…
/r/seduction12/03/13 03:52 AM
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Watch these: http://www.rsdnation.com/tyler/blog/breakup-survival-guide-why-breakup-your-best-chance-make-huge-gains-game
/r/seduction12/03/13 12:51 AM
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I've been doing a straight-through watch of Julien's Free Tour youtube channel. A couple of his videos have been ridiculously inspiring.
/r/seduction12/03/13 12:04 AM
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Link the time?
/r/seduction11/03/13 11:53 PM
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Maybe I misunderstood the video, but I think Julien is recommending that after we're done doing sets, we go home, then that night or the next day, spend some time critiquing, drawing lessons from, and thinking about our approaches. I don't think he wants us to think all those things while in set.
/r/seduction10/03/13 01:15 PM
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Santa Cruz? I am not amuse...d. :D I'll give you a holler if I'm down there.
/r/seduction09/03/13 01:26 AM
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Awesome. Thanks.
/r/seduction09/03/13 01:25 AM
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Maybe try setting up an open or poly relationships from the beginning. I have no idea how to do this or if it's possible, but if you're good and you have the resources (i.e. your pulling girls) to experiment with this.
/r/seduction08/03/13 11:58 PM
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Start, fucking dudes.
/r/seduction08/03/13 11:52 PM
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lmao I read his twitter for the first time two days ago. what is this I don't even
/r/seduction08/03/13 03:39 AM
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"I'm hanging out in my room, come over later." It's also a good way to establish casual hookups, because if she's game then it doesn't set her up with unrealistic expectations. This is gold. I always feel like I need to justify having sex with her by first getting some tea or coffee, then going on a walk. It makes no sense unless you still need to establish comfort.
/r/seduction07/03/13 01:52 PM
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Start with: Social Games to help you approach Do at least three approaches a day. In one month, that's 90 approaches. Don't focus on anything but the approach. And all you need to do is approach, say something—even just a "hi". Do that 100 times and your AA should improve. Sorry to be a Nazi, but: Less walls of text, more paragraph separation.
/r/seduction07/03/13 01:30 PM
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OP, do you want to make approaching easier? Here are some "games" that may help your get over your anxiety. High-five Strangers Many More
/r/seduction07/03/13 01:21 PM
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OP, do not waste your time. Do direct approaches and convey within 2 minutes that you're romantically interested. In any approach, your first goal should be to determine if she's racist. Likewise, you should physically escalate quickly so she knows what's she's in for. Go on AskSeddit, restate your situation, and ask for direct openers that immediately show your interested.
/r/seduction07/03/13 01:11 PM
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My notes from the video. Thought I'd share. Approach every set you see. (Notice that says set and not girl. Just open everyone.) Approaches are fully committed. Natural, direct, say whatever is in your head. Don't try that hard. Just say/do whatever. Minimize the time between sets. See a girl? Start walking. Don't judge yourself in any way. Every approach is awesome. The blow out is awesome, sexy, hilarious. (Because seriously, you're running around talking to strangers so you can stick your fle…
/r/seduction07/03/13 09:49 AM
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Will do.
/r/seduction07/03/13 06:22 AM
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Actually, I think the dirty clothes thing was Brad from RSD, but maybe Julien's done it too.
/r/seduction07/03/13 06:18 AM
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Awesome. Tell Julien that Athens says hello.
/r/seduction07/03/13 05:07 AM
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An AMA with Julien would be amazing. Yeah, his hairstyle is weird as hell, but I like it. :D And honestly, his hair is fine enough that girls probably think it's cool or interesting or whatever. I don't think it'd hurt his game at all, but might have a positive effect because he knows how to own whatever his look is. There's that one challenge where you do pick up in clothes that you haven't washed for a week with food stains on it or some shit. I think he did that and picked up just fine. I may…
/r/seduction07/03/13 05:05 AM
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He must've felt amazing. This Saturday will be my first weekend doing the game after nearly a two-year hiatus. I'm going to do this until I get 20–30 high-fives. But honestly, the thought of trying scares me. O_O
/r/seduction07/03/13 05:00 AM
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Sorry, bro. I didn't realize, but seriously...it is good to watch for those who haven't. Proof: This is my highest-rated post.
/r/seduction06/03/13 08:42 PM
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If you don't practice rambling stories, how are you going to improve? Usually, when you start trying something, you suck at it, so your stories may be shitty at first, but they should get better. Also, realize that communication is largely not about the content of what you're saying. You don't really do pick up with your words. Most of it is body language, tonality, vocal volume, escalation. The actual content is much less important. If you see in-field stuff by RSD, you'll see just...spouting n…
/r/seduction06/03/13 08:38 PM
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an because he was so fucking charismatic at this point, she gave him a kiss on the cheek for no reason! My reaction: What the fuck! This is amazing.
/r/seduction06/03/13 12:53 PM
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Thanks.
/r/seduction05/03/13 06:59 AM
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Queen = [insert favorite PU guru] Us = tumors? I don't like this analogy anymore... Unless it's effin' Vince Kelvin. That guy is a Queen and a tumor combined into one...
/r/seduction05/03/13 01:48 AM
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Are there?! Will you be my date, playswithdogs? ♥ Seriously, though, that sounds pretty cool.
/r/seduction05/03/13 01:45 AM
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lmfao. I...think I just might. ♥
/r/seduction05/03/13 01:44 AM
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Thanks. I had already posted there, but apparently, my post was eaten by the spam filter fungus. Fucking hate fungus...
/r/seduction05/03/13 01:42 AM
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Awesome. Thanks!
/r/seduction04/03/13 06:27 PM
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"Taste the Rainbow" XD
/r/seduction04/03/13 06:22 PM
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These are awesome. I'm saving this thread for sure.
/r/seduction04/03/13 06:21 PM
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For Gold: Wear cape. Turn on fan in front of you. XD
/r/seduction04/03/13 05:00 PM
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Picture this, but naked.
/r/seduction04/03/13 04:03 PM
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Awesome story! So, question is...how often do you text her now? Every two weeks Once per week Every few days Not really sure. My gut instinct tells me once per week (maybe Saturday afternoon), get into a text conversation about 2-3 texts long with her just to see what she's up to and stay on her radar. I think texting every few days or everyday would make her feel like you're taking her very seriously. Seeing as she isn't even around and you've only met her, it might be too much. See what other …
/r/seduction04/03/13 03:25 PM
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"Really cute" = license to kill Okay, not kill...more like...bang bang pew pew.
/r/seduction04/03/13 03:13 PM
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When you get a hard-on, put the girl's hand on your dick and say, "Battle-cruiser operational!" (With accent, of course.) or "Thor is here." When you cum, say, "The merging is complete." or "In the pipe, five-by-five!"
/r/seduction04/03/13 02:51 PM
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lmao amazing. I have to ask a friend to hide in my closet for that one.
/r/seduction04/03/13 02:39 PM
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Really awesome FR. Reminds me to avoid alcohol and whiskey dick. :D And yeah, never focus on any one girl. I don't know how many times, when switching focus to the less hot girls in a group, the hottest one would literally grab me to get my attention back. One extreme example is there was a five-set from out of town that I was talking with. I had a really good rapport with a slightly chubby Indian girl who had read some of my favorite books. The hot girl of the group, while I was trying to have …
/r/seduction04/03/13 12:41 PM
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Omg, that'd be epic. I know I'm going to regret this, but: Challenge accepted!
/r/seduction04/03/13 12:34 PM
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GANGNAM-STYLE: After finishing in a Korean girl, jump up from the bed and yell, "OPA GANGNAM-STYLE!" then start dancing. Gold if you leave the condom on.
/r/seduction04/03/13 12:33 PM
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GOSU-STYLE: Bang a Korean SC player.
/r/seduction04/03/13 12:32 PM
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GORDIE HOW HAT TRICK...also known as the DESTINY CLOUD FIST. P.S. Your list of achievements is extremely impressive.
/r/seduction04/03/13 12:28 PM
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RABBIT SEASON: Impregnate 5 girls through pick up. FTFY Some achievements are just not worth getting...
/r/seduction04/03/13 12:27 PM
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Lmao perfect name.
/r/seduction04/03/13 12:25 PM
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Yeah, I feel the same way. =\ But when I've watched guys who are social virtuosos, even they just keep the opener simple. :)
/r/seduction04/03/13 06:22 AM
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Yeah, it's true that including a girl in everyday stuff is good for building boyfriend- or friend-level rapport. But as a third date? Until you sleep with her, focus on trying to close. Have her meet you at a park near your place and walk around while you talk, then ask if she wants to go watch a movie at your place. Choose the movie beforehand. You can tell her a bit about it on the date. "I heard about this cool movie called XYZ. Let's go watch it. What'd ya say?" As the movie is starting, giv…
/r/seduction04/03/13 05:49 AM
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Yeah, I looked at those. The only thing is: They're expensive as hell. You're paying for two condoms in hard-cases, and you are stuck with whatever Trojan put in them. Instead, buy in-bulk whichever condoms you like, buy the condom holder, and you're good to go. This one is very discrete and is only $3.50 on Amazon. In fact, I bought three: Pocket, shower, bed. The reaction when I pull one out (usually from behind her ear) makes it so worth it: "Oh my god! Where did this come from?!"
/r/seduction04/03/13 05:41 AM
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So, here's one: "Hey, maybe this is a little awkward, but I'm [insert your name]." Let him respond. If you need more: "So, I've never actually...just come up to someone randomly like this! I'm a bit shy. Tell me something interesting about yourself." More: "Hey, have you seen [insert movie name]?" If he hasn't, tell him about it. If he has, tell him some random information about the director, actors, filming, whatever. You may need to spend 10 minutes researching a movie you like for interesting…
/r/seduction04/03/13 05:20 AM
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Maybe change your environment while you get used to openeing: If you're doing Night Game, do Day Game, etc. Also: Try this opener: "Hi, I'm really shy, but thought you were cute." After she responds, then you say: "Tell me something interesting about yourself." Speak loudly. After 2–5 minutes, say, "Ok, well I need to get going, but don't let me leave without giving me your number!" Do this for 20–100 sets, then move on to something else. Also, use a binary girl-rating system. 0: She is not sexa…
/r/seduction04/03/13 04:55 AM
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Ask her at some point if she is single, rather than waiting for her to say that line. It's complimentary and I feel like you'd get a more honest answer. Plus, you won't have spent 30 minutes trying to escalate with a girl who is taken. But don't use the "Are you single?" line as an opener. Probably 2–5 minutes in.
/r/seduction04/03/13 04:48 AM
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No. I've seen Tyler literally put his hand on a girl's neck and pull her down into a kiss.
/r/seduction04/03/13 04:36 AM
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Whatever, man. If height makes a difference, it only fucks with your head to think about it. If height doesn't make a difference, then it still just fucks with your head to think about it. Conclusion: Ignore height. For the record, I'm barely 5'6".
/r/seduction04/03/13 04:32 AM
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Yeah, I had a friend who loved shit tests. He felt that every time he passed one, he had a huge spike of attraction.
/r/seduction04/03/13 04:28 AM
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There is no higher praise than soda on a keyboard. ♥
/r/seduction04/03/13 04:25 AM
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As soon as she says you guys could sleep together if... Put a finger to her lips as say, "Hush, babe." Then start kissing her, undo your pants, and put her hand on your cock. Start rubbing her crotch. If she still resists, just say, "I can tell you're not ready yet. No pressure, okay? Let's go to bed." The next morning, wake her up with kissing and try again. Personal Opinion/Complete Bro-science: If she doesn't have sex with you, it's probably best not to call her for one or two days. You don't…
/r/seduction04/03/13 04:17 AM
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Been to Walgreens, but never found those condom holders. I even asked around sales reps. Go online for them; they're pretty cheap off Amazon.
/r/seduction04/03/13 03:59 AM
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LEVEL: UBER-MAN FOR YOUR EYES ONLY: Wingman hides under bed while you f-close, then jumps out in the middle of it and runs out the door laughing maniacally like a little girl. THE NAKED MAN: When pulling a girl and she goes to the bathroom at your place, strip off all your clothes, then wait for her, posed like Superman. THREE'S COMPANY: Use your imagination, fellas. :P ONCE IN A LIFE-TIME: Setup a date where the express purpose is to go on a picnic during a solar eclipse and have sex in the day…
/r/seduction04/03/13 03:40 AM
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I think Apocalypse or Phone Apocalypse openers are more about building balls, some other stuff, and learning how to deal with something super awkward as if it wasn't awkward at all. Certainly, for 99% of guys, that would be an awkward situation. Not to mention, these openers are less idiotic than doing pick up with a dildo strapped to your forehead.
/r/seduction04/03/13 03:20 AM
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Woah, it's so weird that I see this topic because... Last night, I dreamed I did this to a girl (I had never heard of this "trick") and she got in her car and drove away with my phone. Nuts, dude...
/r/seduction04/03/13 03:11 AM
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In fact, I just double checked BayArea Seddit's "New" tab and my post isn't even showing up. =\
/r/seduction04/03/13 02:24 AM
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Yeah, I made a similar post of Bay Area Seddit. It's not the most active of subreddits, though.
/r/seduction04/03/13 02:22 AM
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You're right. That spot is brimming with people around noontime. Do you live in the area?
/r/seduction04/03/13 02:21 AM
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Want to up-vote, but shame to change number of votes from 420 to 421.
/r/seduction03/03/13 02:17 PM
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