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Yes. This is me officially dismissing the red pill as wretched fucks that aren't worth even trying to talk with. Why do you think it took 7 days for me to respond? Because I tried discussing this on PPD. Talking with red pill people like human beings. All it's got me is a deeper level of repulsion for the lot of you. I reached my breaking point with this fucking thread GLO posted, and asked for someone to convince me the red pill was even worth discussing. What I got was the fucking tool that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/14 05:54 AM
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If we're brainstorming how BEST to HURT people, I'd say GLO is doing a pretty fucking piss poor job. If you think that this in any meaningful way harms women then your perspective on women is that they are more fragile, credulous and pathetic than nearly any red pill poster has ever claimed. HE thinks it hurts them. He WANTS to hurt them. The entire purpose is to make insecure women feel like shit. How the fuck do you defend that? Oh right, by thinking that women are worthless so it's just good …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/14 02:59 AM
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Because it sounds just like me at 8 years old, talking about how being forced to brush my teeth is the most unfair thing that has ever happened. No it doesn't. You're just a terp. Everything a woman does is childish to you. Even when its exactly the same thing men do. Another very good reason why TRP is a worthless and vile place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/14 02:56 AM
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The only place I've heard a worse defense of TRP is from GLO himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/14 01:43 AM
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And yet they put him on their front page and slap him with a "TRP Endorsed" sticker. It says a lot about the subreddit. The outliers are the ones that AREN'T sociopathic misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 08:40 PM
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How are we supposed to work from the premise that red pill has any value whatsoever when they keep throwing out this shit? My god. Please, TRP defenders, explain how a place where discussions on how best to hurt people just for fun is anything other than a cesspool. It's on the front fucking page. /u/GayLubeOil, the source of most of the most vile crap ever to be posted, is TRP endorsed. Yet we still get people claiming "it's just about self improvement" and shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 08:38 PM
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Oh come on it's not like any RP guy is going to ask your number. They'll just assume. Like this guy that says "wow she won't give me a number? I think a reasonable thing to do would be ASSUME 300!". I've already said as my own answer that who cares for hookups, but I also think it's just plain weird to do so anyways. If it actually comes up in that situation, it's probably just playful banter or something. I wouldn't think anyone's actually going around digging for partner counts at bars... Whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 12:34 AM
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I don't care. I know my babies are going to be circumcised if they're with my current SO because he's all for it since he had problems when he was a kid from not being circumcised and he says he just remembers everything being way better after he got it done, but honestly the only difference to me is aesthetic anyways (and for obvious reasons even that is irrelevant when discussing my baby). I'm kind of counting on someone else making the decision, just because I firmly believe that after pubert…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 11:26 PM
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The answer depends on the type of "relationship", but I have the same answer for women and men. If it's just a hook up: NEVER lie and say you're a virgin. Even if you think it'll make you more attractive to them, that's the difference between "coould have STD" and "definitely don't have STD". Other than that, say whatever you want? They're only with you for your body and a preliminary judgement of whether you're likely to be good in bed. I don't see the question even coming up. Relationship: Nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 11:00 PM
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Woooow. That's some impressive rationalization there. You do realize you're still being deliberately deceitful, right? You just rationalize it as "well now it's THEIR fault, and anyone who makes assumptions deserves what they get".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 10:55 PM
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See the problem here is that you're seeing these issues through the eyes of a sociopath. How on earth could you relate to anything about normal human behaviour? Those silly people dealing with all these issues you think are ridiculous are the REASON you can be so successful. Because you take advantage of a society where most others are NOT sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 10:47 PM
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Isn't it better to pursue solutions to any issues outside of a place that is extremely one-sided? I mean, TRP is really only in it for your benefit, and in a marriage (and being a decent person) you probably want both of you to be happy. I'm a very logical person so to have a philosophy that said do X, Y, Z and you will get A appealed to my inner nerd. You can find this everywhere. That's the basic formula of ANY relationship advice. "Communication will lead to happiness". "Picking your battles …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 10:21 PM
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I didn't know that. But even so, it's pretty fucking tin foil hat style to go up to people and say "ARE YOU A MOD ALT IN DISGUISE". I don't take back my original statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 10:06 PM
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Let me ask a serious question that's sort of off topic. Where do the kind of women who don't like clubs and bars actually go? I go to work. Play video games. Go out hiking/wall climbing/biking and such with friends. Go to house parties. Go to the beach. Go on the internet (although I recoiled quickly from my only attempt at online dating). Read at the tea lounge down the street. When I was single I'd also go out to restaurants on my own. My friends and SO were all met through gaming or work or t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 04:52 AM
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What's worse is the blue pill males don't expect her to do work and cover for her laziness. I'd also call this just "basic group dynamics". Nothing to do with "blue pill males" or some shit. There's always the lazy shit that you have to haul ass to make up for. Everyone I know who's ever done a group project has had this person, and it had nothing to do with what gender they were (either the person being lazy or the person/people making up for it).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 04:46 AM
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His whole post is giving me a pretentious hipster vibe... Is that just me?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 04:39 AM
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I don't understand why you're on the red pill then. It sounds like you have a healthy life and no relationship issues... I know a lot of people that are decisive and fit that aren't in any way interested in the red pill... What does it mean to you? Why do you like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 04:34 AM
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She basically lighted up like a lightbulb after the initial tough period and just became a better version of herself all around. And her mother too. And my mother too. And even our 55 years old female friend (three kids, three grandkids, experienced) lights up every time she sees the baby and picks her up. Oh really? All the women you know that have chosen to have kids like kids huh? Wow, that's a pretty convincing argument. But for women who are just not sure... it seems there is a huge chance …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 04:14 AM
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... you can probably take your tin foil hat off right about now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 04:07 AM
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Explain WHY you think it has nothing to do with morality. Because there is nothing about it that would exempt it from moral values.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 04:04 AM
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TRP is DEFINITELY worse than the usual reddit sexism. By far.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 04:03 AM
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It's a self fulfilling prophecy. Wouldn't surprise me if the girlfriends plates that they chose based on looks and being easy (because women have nothing else of value), don't have any of the traits they weren't looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/14 08:05 AM
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I don't think the women must be shallow. I mean, no one spends their every waking hour thinking about and discussing the current political and economic climate or any of that, and people at clubs are there to get drunk and dance. It's their relaxing lets-not-think-about-anything time. Similarly, I don't think that trying to strike up a conversation on politics through xBox Live chat would go well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/14 03:39 AM
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Speaking of mobile technology. Microsoft came out with a tablet years before the iPad but could not convince anyone to want it. Bad timing AND management IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/14 03:25 AM
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I just can't stand when people try to shame others who are trying to change in a way that works for them. Where you see manipulation, I see adaptation. Yea, funny how that whole "rationalization" thing works, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/14 03:19 AM
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I'd definitely agree with that. Success is as much about timing and luck as it is about any business skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/14 02:58 AM
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Or they don't feel the need to twist extreme sexism into their "self improvement". You can absolutely get self improvement advice without going to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/14 02:54 AM
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Funny coincidence! My mom does the same thing when talking about men. But she's like over 50... and you're probably not...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/14 02:52 AM
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Sexual strategy is NOT amoral. Deal with it. You can get laid without acting like a psychopath. You choose not to go that route.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 11:37 PM
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1) Well the "defeats you logically" thing has never happened, so I can't say what would happen in that case, but you know what, you don't have to go to TBP if you don't want people being snarky at you. They are not invading your space, they are just looking at it and talking about it well away from you. If you act like shitheads, don't expect people to show you respect. 2) I respond in kind. No, I don't "take the high ground" against people that are being shitheads. I do not have to be a perfect…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 11:35 PM
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No, I will not show respect to men for being men. Those individuals will be shown respect based on what they do. You get nothing, nothing, for the fact that other people who are NOT YOU are doing something useful. If 100 people work together and make a cure for cancer and 90 of them are men, and 10 of them are women, 90 men get respect, and 10 women get respect. YOU, once again, get nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 11:26 PM
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Such a well thought out and reasonable response. Boy I really misjudged you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 07:24 AM
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My criticism of Those_Who_Remain's decision to bold words wasn't a literal criticism of font styles, and it wasn't unjustified mocking. Oh of course. It was justified mocking, which is totally a legit way to debate. The person was bolding words to mimic the emphasis we use in every day speech. Choosing to use half your comment to mock him for it and deliberately misuse bold words to imply that his use of bold was random and stupid is nowhere near behaviour that someone looking for real debate sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 05:52 AM
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You're right. Let me rephrase: Don't you call blue pill people coming into TRP and telling you your posts/comments are idiotic, stupid trolls? Don't say no. It's a rhetorical question. You absolutely DO do that. Then delete their posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 12:40 AM
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Yea that's trolling. 1) TBP isn't a debate subreddit. Any blue piller that actually cares to have a discussion on your views is in PPD, or should be. Some might argue with you in TBP, but they will not pretend they think your ideas are legit. 2) Your post was deliberately inflamatory. You really fucking expect a polite explanation of the difference in your views in response to "Why are these bluepill posts so fucking dumb"? Because if you did you are unbelievably self absorbed. "Take my insults …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 12:33 AM
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Your gender doesn't effect you NEARLY enough that other people that don't even know you can decide based just on that what you should be doing, what you're capable of, and what will make you happy. It's not worth mentioning the nuances of genders because in the end we're individuals. You are who you are, and in this context, all the "this gender likes this, this gender likes that" is completely irrelevant. If some of who you are is due to gender, it doesn't matter. Traits in line with what's exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 12:11 AM
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So? The title means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/14 11:23 PM
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No one is self sufficient... obviously. Men aren't either. "Men" did not design the world. People from before our time did. The men alive now just contribute to the furthering of it. They don't get to claim credit for the work of everyone who came before them based on the fact that they also have a penis. I don't get to claim credit for working with uranium because Marie Curie also had a vagina. Men don't get to take credit for the constitution because other penis-havers created it. Each man and…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/14 11:17 PM
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The point of a debate is to discuss the ideas. You choosing to ignore the point he raises means the idea of a debate is pointless. Exactly right. If you ignore the fucking context maybe. You expect me to debate with people that are doing everything you already listed? Mocking people? Straw men? Assorted fallacies? No. Not all people are worth debating. And "just take it" is not an argument for why I should attempt to have a reasonable discussion with someone who wants to do shit like mocking som…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/14 11:03 PM
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Wrong. You have horrible reading comprehension. Truly horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/14 10:44 PM
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0 Trolls will have negative karma...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/14 10:22 PM
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Not to mention those disgusting assholes that have babies. Stop stealing my money, and go give birth in the woods like a decent member of society!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/14 10:21 PM
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I don't have to respond to every single thing posted in PPD, and I find the "subreddits can't do anything" train of thought to lead to a worthless debate of semantics. Do you respond to every single thing posted by any BP anywhere on the subreddit? I'm betting not. I do think he could benefit from understanding the purpose of bolded words, so I stated it. Also, I notice no one's bitching him out for using randomly bolded words and complaints about bolded words to literally just mock the poster b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/14 08:29 PM
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Then they're not good men. They're shitty men. Did you ever consider that the ideas that lead you to decide to act like a psychopath aren't exactly traits of a good person?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/14 08:09 PM
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He's not talking about love. He's talking about how best to psychologically attack and ostracize fat women. You might as well respond to a post about allowing gay marriage with "no one deserves to be CEO".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/14 09:07 AM
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Sorry, but when every other day there are posts/comments on TRP (and PPD for that matter) literally saying that girls over 25 are pretty much worthless and guys with decent SMV should/will always go for a girl younger than that, you don't get to dismiss it as "what are you talking about OMG YOU'RE SO IGNORANT". A gigantic fucking core tenet of TRP is that men gain SMV as the age and women lose it, and that guys at their prime (30-40+) want girls at their prime (<25) and vice versa. Not only that…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/14 07:58 AM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/14 07:51 AM
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Why do you think bolding words in your comment means something? Because it mimics the emphasis that we use in our real life speech. If you don't like it then just ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/14 07:45 AM
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But the psychopathic badboys are the same RPs that are later turning you down. They're not "good men"...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/14 07:42 AM
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Yea. They do. They deserve not to be "reminded that they're vermin" whenever possible. They deserve to not have people they've never met be out to get them just for existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 07:50 AM
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But if you're writing a post about yourself and your life you HAVE to be using "I" and "me" a lot. Honestly, if she didn't I'd be concerned about her inability to take responsibility for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 06:40 AM
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That doesn't make his argument make any more sense. Bob can say that vaccines are good because they make your hair shiny, and even though vaccines are actually good, Bob is still an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 06:09 AM
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It's a blog post by her, about her. The fact that she uses the words "I" and "me" a lot just means that she's talking about herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 04:44 AM
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90% nurture, 10% nature. And we're not just talking about sex. We're talking about your entire being. Pretty sure "likes building things" wasn't a euphemism in OP's post. He actually just means a personality trait of hers that is not related to sex. As for the reason why you're only 10% sex-nature and 20% other-nature. It's because there's a lot more to you than your sex desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 01:53 AM
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But if they're killing them because they did something dishonourable, then if all women were incapable of honour there would be no women left. I think the point is that TRPs idea that women aren't capable of honour leads them to the "you can never expect them to be honourable" conclusion. If muslims believed that then why would they kill a woman instead of just shrugging and saying "women are women, whaddyagonnado?".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 08:26 PM
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If nature just means gender shit, I'd say it's maybe 90-10. If it includes just traits you've always had, I'd say it's more 70-30. I mean, there's no explaining why I had an interest in math and numbers from when I was a baby through nurture. My mom wasn't doing anything special to try and make me the mathy type or anything. I think overall though, even if you don't just mimic the people around you, they influence you a lot over time. It can be as simple as seeing some girl and thinking "hey she…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 08:21 PM
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(As a man - what is so great about a career? Is mostly serving a CEO who does not give a shit about you. Most men would gladly fuck off from their careers if they could afford it and do something meaningful like arts, travel or writing instead of yet another fucking sales report in Excel. Why the hell do feminist women see careers as something really satisfying?) What's great about freedom? Independence? You act like women would be sacrificing nothing by not having a job. Sure, I'd take a life w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 07:57 PM
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To me what is so interesting, is how similar the 'bad boys' and this Nice Guy™ seem. They both appear to be totally uninterested in this women beyond her sex appeal. The difference, is that one group is pursuing a strategy which turns her on, and the other is not. That's exactly it. The reason people complain about "nice guys" is that there have been so many men that talk about themselves as "nice guys" that are really just as much of assholes as any bad boy. The contempt comes from the fact tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 07:49 AM
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That first guy is seriously disturbed. She's no angel but he's ready and willing to invent negative traits for her that she doesn't even show in her post. The second guy is just strange to me. Isn't it a good thing that she's not blaming her actions on others? She's talking about herself, not "he did this, he did that, he tricked me into being unhappy". There's nothing wrong with MGTOW (and honestly in his case it's probably a favour to society), but if the reason for doing that is that you've j…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 07:30 AM
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Most of us go away from a life of criminal activity. It doesn't mean we have anything in common or some greater purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 07:04 AM
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Except that that's all bullshit. There is nothing wrong with a "post wall LTR". TRP has this insane idea, at the very core of their beliefs, that somehow any "post wall" women are actually just looking to sucker some guy into being their "provider". No. Most of them are looking for love and stability from a healthy relationship they could see lasting the rest of their lives. What the fuck is wrong with wanting that? It's what a LOT of RPs claim to want as well. But not from some post wall hag! E…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 06:44 AM
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I feel like you're not reading the same thing as the rest of us...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 05:36 AM
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And "use of a vagina" wouldn't be all we're buying if it wasn't all women are selling these days. You're not buying anything. You're right that you shouldn't get married. Because you have no concept of how to have a healthy relationship with someone. You are a recipe for divorce and loneliness. The best you can do is skip the divorce part.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 09:01 PM
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Unconditional love for him is a fantasy world where he always gets what he wants and the wife is nothing more than a reflection of his own desires, with no personality or needs of her own. He has previously said that if a girl is ever not in the mood for sex when he is, even one time in the entire relationship, it means that they're "incompatible" and he would dump her because he needs a "high value woman".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 08:58 PM
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Sounds like your view of thing would line up better with something like the Myers-Briggs personality types, rather than a binary system.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 06:35 PM
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Seems like someone said "how do we convince men to be okay with coming to a salon" and went with the most cringe worthy idea they could think of. I know several guys that go to salons for various reasons, but I don't know any that are so insecure that they'd have to go to one called "alpha male grooming".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 06:29 PM
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I know it was you. I refrained from naming you because I didn't think you'd want to be pointed at as "that guy that talks about manthers". Apparently I was wrong..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 07:25 AM
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I've only ever seen one person use the word manther, and it was the 40 year old dude that thinks he looks 25. Where are you seeing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/14 11:15 PM
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Men evolved to avoid relationships with sluts to avoid getting cuckolded by one and getting stuck raising another man's child. No they didn't. It's a cultural thing. I hate the RP "let's pretend it's science based on shaky theoretical shit that I found on the internet" thing. We, as a people, do not know what cavepeople and shit were thinking or 90% of how they interacted. Everything written about it is speculation. Educated guesses. Don't compare physical attractiveness as a method of deciding …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 07:33 PM
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The thing that shocked me is that on reddit of all places (supposedly pretty liberal), there is a large chunk of people who actually hate socialized healthcare and think it's the worst idea ever. Even when you tell them it's cheaper. There's a million and one weird reasons they come up with why it's awful. Some even literally think that doctors work for free in Canada O.O For me that was a horrifying realization. It's not just the GOP. It's not even just republicans. I thought before I found red…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 07:24 PM
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Yep. It's awful here. Taxes mean MY money is go to helping people and I don't even get to brag about how charitable I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 04:18 AM
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Canada.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 03:02 AM
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It happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 01:06 AM
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... You're grossly misinterpreting what I said. Read it again and tell me if it sounds like I'm from the US, because there are a couple sentences whose structure wouldn't make sense if I was from the US...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 01:03 AM
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He's still saying that women flock to jobs where they can be [insert string of insults disguised as "stereotypes"], and if the jobs were useful it would be filled with men because women want places where they can be [insert string of insults disguised as "stereotypes"], and men want places they can be useful! I can rephrase it: "since all negative traits are female traits, IT MUST BE THAT THE WOMEN LOVE THAT"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 12:57 AM
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I'm going to need a citation on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 12:46 AM
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Not normal for "very tiny people" either unless you mean people that literally have dwarfism. And it's actually not healthy to under-eat by that much to lose weight either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 12:44 AM
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I don't want to be cynical, but boy oh boy is it hard not to observe that at the very moment in our history when we have the most women in the Senate, Congress is perceived to be pathetic, bickering, easily manipulated and powerless, and I'll risk the blowback and say that those are all stereotypes of women. LOL. This is absolutely ridiculous. You know why it has the most women? Because it's the furthest away from the time when women couldn't even have jobs. What about all those other fields tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 12:28 AM
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It'd be nice if people were all thought of as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 11:39 PM
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The US is fucked up. Seriously. Here you have maternity leave for the "literally giving birth and recovering from said birth" part, and apply for parental leave if you want to stay home for up to a year. Both are paid for by the government, and mandatory for companies to allow it. Then again you also don't have to prepare for bankruptcy if there are any complications with pregnancy or birth...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 11:30 PM
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Sorry, I don't think that attitude is at all related to being "beta" or "misogynistic". A lot of "vanilla" people really can't wrap their head around BDSM and are extremely prejudiced. There was a guy in my BLAW class that did a presentation on a BDSM case in England from years ago where guys were put on jail for taping BDSM encounters with other men. He said it was "crazy torture" stuff that they were doing, and when someone asked if they were like, breaking each others arms or something, he sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 08:12 PM
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That's actually an awful way to prove it's not teenagers, because teenagers are known to think they know everything about everything. That's actually pretty much the argument on BOTH sides for why it is teenagers on the opposing subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 08:01 PM
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Just because you're better than past you doesn't make you better than current 20 year olds that are better than 20 year old you. You seem to be making quite an assumption there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 07:20 AM
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I haven't seen a lot of really young people in BDSM communities. 18 year old girls are probably dating 18 year old guys and haven't even broken out of the highschool mindset of just doing what everyone else is doing. 18-25 is a big "finding yourself" time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 07:00 AM
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Interesting lie, considering that it's repeatedly said on TRP that men "gain SMV" as they age. That's not even close to "we just accept relationships with age differences". But yea, it's TBP that's hamstering...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 05:13 AM
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Same reason "I just drove them there and back" doesn't absolve you of responsibility for being part of a bank robbery. You participated, and it's not like it's a victimless crime. YOU are making a decision too. And that decision makes you an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 11:30 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 09:26 PM
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... Are you for real?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 09:23 PM
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Is there a reason you're being this weird?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 09:18 PM
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Treating others with respect and always trying to do the right thing. Nobody's perfect, but... If your dating strategy includes making sure she can't get home easily, you might be an asshole. If you think that your girlfriend not giving you sex every single time you want it with no regards for her own desires means she's not good enough, you might be an asshole. If you walk around your office "negging" girls just for fun, you might be an asshole. If your entire view of women is based on double s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 09:17 PM
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The fact of the matter is a man displaying too much these 'negative' emotions, particularly early in courtship, is a death sentence to most romantic relationship. Well yea... would you seriously date a girl that threw you into an emotional roller coaster starting on the second date? That's really fucking weird if someone throws all their emotional baggage at you like you're an airport trolley from the second you walk in the door. If you don't like that, that's really weird and you have an unplea…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 09:06 PM
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None of this describes anything that a man actually offers to a relationship with a woman. It's just describing women as a prize offered to whoever does things completely unrelated to relationships. You know why you think there are oh so many girls running after death row inmates that it should change your entire outlook on life? Because you don't hear about the girls going after normal guys. What happens is a girl meets a guy and they date and form a relationship and get married and it doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 08:54 PM
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It's a rhetorical question. And you're a bit of a twit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 08:23 PM
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Maybe it's just your phrasing, but this question weirds me out. Maybe "besides sexual history, what things shouldn't people be judging potential partners by?". Skip the "people" part entirely, because people and potential partners are two very different things. Anyways... I guess it's anything in their past that they've shown to have grown past (with some exceptions). I mean, if your partner went 10k into debt when they were 19 because they didn't understand the responsibility of a credit card, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 07:49 AM
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It's not okay to judge someone on that? Because that sounds like a list of things you SHOULD judge them on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 07:32 AM
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Yea, I guess I get that. If my understanding is correct though, it doesn't really compare to the RP thing at all. TRP is making a superficial judgement value on a supposedly non-superficial relationship. One Night Stand: Totally superficial. You want a guy/girl that's willing to go home with someone that night. All that matters is that their body is nice and that they have a basic understanding of how sex works. Personality can matter if they portray "i'm a freak in the sack" well, but generally…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 07:26 AM
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Yea, remember when I described Search Result #3? That was it, obviously. Problem is it doesn't say anything about anything. It's just percentages of women that enjoy or regret casual sex. It doesn't say anything about there being a "type" or what "standards" girls have for this, I don't think it even directly addresses the fact there was a man involved. It's just how girls feel about casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 07:15 AM
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Exactly why I'd like to see some context for how it's used, by someone that actually uses it sincerely. That doesn't make sense to me. I can't imagine why you would want to be in a relationship with an expiration date. I've always been confused by that concept and would like to see what these "articles talking about it", that you claimed were all over, said were the benefits or "standards" for a relationship like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 12:57 AM
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Uh huh... but if I say the phrase "having a laugh" means having sex, and someone says that it isn't used to mean that, I can't defend it with "but it's been around forever". No matter how long it's been around, it still doesn't mean that. You are arguing that it means one thing, and when I follow your advice to search it and see examples of how it's used to form an opinion on it, and I find people use it in a completely different way, and now you still say I should address your fabricated premis…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 12:31 AM
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God this is worthless. You literally can't imagine a world where it isn't a girl's duty to do literally everything unless some sort of apocalyptic event happens. There can be a million different scenarios leading to asking someone to do something, but of course, in your mind, the only reason is that you're a nagging harpy that refuses to do ANYTHING good ever. I can tell you're cherry picking what you read to suit your agenda and THEN adding shit like "she's obviously tallying chores otherwise s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 12:24 AM
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Uh, maybe I have different search results than you because of location and shit (my top result is canadianliving, probably not going to show up for americans). A quick look shows this. Search Result #1: How to tell if he's not planning to stay with you long term. Search Result #2: Don't dwell on relationships that could have been, or pass up great guys for some ideal of finding "the one". Search Result #3: Percentages of women that have casual sex, regret it, think it's worth it, and how many ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 11:41 PM
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Are you kidding me? There is so much talk about what kind of guy women deserve, but never any about what kind of girl those great guys deserve No, there isn't. Other than the usual post-relationship bullshit everyone gets. "You're to good for him/her! You deserved better anyways!". A harmonious relationship is where you both strive to meet each others needs. And this great guy you're talking about would want to be in one of those. NOT a relationship where you strive to meet his needs so much tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 11:19 PM
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For me it's more the basic philosophy I've grown up with, that you strive to be a good person. I don't have an idealistic view of the world. I don't even believe in karma. Bad people get away with being bad people. Good people don't always get rewarded. Fuck, sociopaths tend to do very well for themselves because they don't give a shit who they have to step on to get what they want. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't be a good person, and I will look down on you and think badly of you for bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 10:56 PM
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Nothing? There's no real change between a committed relationship and a marriage, other than that you formalized your intention to build a life together. Especially where I am because they're pretty strict about common law marriage anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 10:44 PM
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Can you describe it in non-rap?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 10:32 PM
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Well. I don't know really any guys or girls that sleep with a lot of people. I think that says a lot. The type of people that put all their energy into hanging out at clubs to get one night stands, are always in relationships that last a few weeks, the ones that are all drama and all about always having to have a girl/guy in their life just to have one... there's a reason they're not around me. Their lifestyles and attitudes are incompatible with mine. It's not so much that I wouldn't go for som…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 10:28 PM
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"Their entire philosophy states that the real world demands that a man become and remain a macho male stereotype." If you'd read the whole paragraph (not to mention the other paragraphs where I reiterate the same thing), you'd see "because they've taught you that anything else isn't possible". That pretty much says exactly what you're saying. The thing is, they're wrong. You know what? Some girls will be disgusted when you cry. Some guys will tell you you're obviously on your period if you argue…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 09:13 PM
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a lifestyle change from demanding to inspiring such considerations And how is that healthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 09:06 PM
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Really? Because I've seen red pill women having a freaking panic attack over asking even the slightest consideration from their boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 09:08 AM
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He's not. That isn't to say he can't divorce her if his needs are being met, or that his needs shouldn't be considered. It's that the only thing I'd consider a married person "entitled" to is fidelity and safety. Ideally in a healthy relationship (assuming their sex drives differ) there would be a compromise between their needs, and being that they appear to love each other enough to get married, they'd want to compromise for the others happiness. What's your relationship? Again, I object to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 10:10 PM
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Because they're physically weaker, and it's only recently that violence against women when they act "inappropriately" stopped being acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 09:55 PM
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just realized this may be too broad and trusting/not trusting an entire gender is pretty stupid lol. Glad to see this because that was my first thought when I saw your question. "Of course I don't trust all men!". I trust the men I date when it becomes serious. Not immediately though. I mean, I don't trust them any more or less than I trust the average person. Like, I trust the person bringing my food not to poison it, but I wouldn't let them lead me into a dark deserted alley way. That's part o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 09:52 PM
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If he broke down into tears over a failed past relationship, would you be as accepting? If he expressed any sort of misery over his job, or lack of hope for his career? If he displayed signs of fear when facing a physical threat? What do you think I was talking about, exactly? Believe it or not I meant feelings outside of just "happy, horny, hungry". Yes, he has real feelings and problems. Here's the thing. You claim that TRP is just saying "this is how to take advantage of the situation". A lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 09:22 PM
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This isn't "compatibility". It's a childish idea that if you don't get your way all the time then something is seriously wrong. As an adult you should have grown out of that "I am the center of the world" phase and developed an understanding that other people are also human beings just like you and have needs and wants and concerns that you should respect. Instead you choose the "anyone that doesn't do everything I want is a poopyhead" attitude. This world where a real relationship will always g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 05:08 AM
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No. Never.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 04:56 AM
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No. RPs regularly talk down about "feminists" and everything that comes with them (independent thought, careers, sexual freedom), and frequently state that these women are problematic and/or "denying their biology" and shit, AND teach men that ever having feelings or being anything other than a macho manipulative control freak is being a beta loser and that's what's wrong with them. TRP very much encourages gender roles and demeans those who don't live up to them. You're not just doing "whatever…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 08:48 PM
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Your summary is pretty misleading. I think she'd be disappointed in your oversimplifying and reducing it to oppression olympics. I'd highly suggest reading the book, but I would also highly suggest taking OP's summary with a heaping spoonful of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 07:19 AM
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I'm starting to feel like you have no idea what either of my comments meant...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 01:44 AM
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If you look around, gender roles are still being not-too-subtly enforced in a lot of ways. This is just one piece of it. TRP being a huge advocate of them (including men not having feelings). A LOT of people dismiss gender roles and stereotypes as if they were a thing of the past, and even mock those that try and draw attention to the problems they still create. But the truth is, they do still cause problems. There are still women that feel men are losers when they open up, and men that can't st…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 12:20 AM
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Well, you're not doing much "engineering" when 99% of the variables are already set for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 11:46 PM
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Or maybe girls have a variety of reasons why going home with a random guy isn't as favourable for them as a guy going home with a random girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 07:36 PM
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Reading Comprehension: 0
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 07:07 PM
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That's not true. Your attitude is reflected in your body language as well as how you talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 06:46 PM
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Fine. You're right. "Men and women are different" was totally a legit response that provides a well rounded and satisfactory answer to his question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 06:43 PM
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So... you're response is basically to call me a dick/twat? Rule #2 buddy. If you realize that you never actually had anything to contribute to the conversation, just leave. If you have something of value to add, say it. Don't just try and distract from your failure to contribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 07:06 AM
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I can't believe I read all that... O.O What does it have to do with this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 07:01 AM
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Ha. Nice way to twist things (I'm assuming that reduction to absurdity is not a fallacy you've heard of, or as a rational person you'd probably avoid it), but he doesn't imply that it's "somehow implausible for there to be a single difference between men and women". He's implying that it's implausible that THIS PARTICULAR THING would be different between women and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 06:41 AM
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I went to college for programming. Was disillusioned by the monotony of it (I thought it would be more about algorithms, less about copy/pasting code and debugging and shit). I then went to work in an admin-like position (mostly women in it). I'm considering going back to school for a math or statistics degree soon, but now I'm in a committed relationship and we're planning our future together, so I'll have to see how it fits in to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 05:00 AM
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This is called the argument to moderation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 04:51 AM
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Why do we need that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 04:46 AM
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Except what passes for "evolutionary psychology" is anything that sounds plausible at the time. Don't pretend that it's science and therefore you're so totally right. Even actually qualified people can't definitively prove this stuff. There's a reason "nature vs. nurture" is STILL a topic of intrigue. Because we don't know enough to tell how much of each it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 04:39 AM
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But the downvoting is breaking a rule in itself. You're not helping. You're just getting in a slap fight. There is no reason to downvote. You shouldn't even have a button to downvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 04:34 AM
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I do think that terpers are pretty hypocritical in thinking that "women are the problem". What I really think about marriage rates being down though is that it's because people have more options. Marriage isn't mandatory. It's becoming more and more acceptable to not get married, and people are less likely to get married because it's just "what adults do". I personally think it's a good thing if more people are happy to have their own life rather than get hitched to whoever is closest. I think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 04:30 AM
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Believe it or not you can't actually claim every single one of your double standards are obviously true because "men and women are different" and leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 04:16 AM
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No true scotsman...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 04:02 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 03:48 AM
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What's good about marrying a TRP "alpha" in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 03:18 AM
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Well, if my chemistry classes have taught me anything, then the solution is that you heat the mixture until it separates out into it's components. Smell, being a physical property rather than a chemical one, is irrelevant. The process should go something like this: SexAirCandy -> Sex + Air + Candy. See? Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 11:22 PM
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Oh really? You don't look down on women? What's "hamstering"? What's "women, the most responsible teenager in the house"? And who the hell feels they get "companionship" from talking to children? Why do men want to have sex or be with women at all? All that effort that could be used to advance the human species. Notice I never argued the wanting sex part. Almost everyone wants sex. Isn't the whole "alpha male" thing centered around the idea that they AREN'T the long term partners though? You're …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 11:19 PM
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Having babies was not one of the reasons you listed for why you want a marriage. If you don't want to tell me why you want to get married, don't. Don't provide a bs answer though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 09:24 PM
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Were is he saying this? I know that women are better at multitasking but men can do it too, you know. And this is a debate forum. What is he supposed to do? Change the entire social system to prove his point? Get a gender studies (lol!) degree and conduct ground breaking research so he can quote it in this little part of the internet where we are informally talking? The system is fucked up, and it's not likely fixable. So instead of being social warriors, let's just figure out how the current sy…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 09:20 PM
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More important than candy and less important than air.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 09:01 PM
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No, people can't "have it all". But when you narrow down "all" to actually mean "two things", yea you can. The cards just have to line up. There are plenty of men that actually do want a woman that isn't a vapid incompetent begging to latch on to a man who will do everything for them while they provide him with snacks and babies. Mostly because those men don't WANT to date a woman that's "the smartest teenager in the room". They want to date a woman that's an adult. That being said, I laugh at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 08:12 PM
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I don't understand how you can want a marriage when you're following a cult that believes women are so stupid they're not even really human. And the only women that will want to be with a man that thinks that low of women are women that are that low, so you have a problem. How can you find companionship when it's repeated again and again by RPs that you can't even talk to women, women have no interests, women have nothing worth saying? Why would you "build a life" with someone you believe isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 08:23 AM
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But as men, we don't bitch about the system. We man up and figure out how to deal with it. Riiiight... because nothing ever changed when only men could vote or make decisions. That would be unmanly. That's why America is still a British colony. Don't you think it's a bit... idiotic... to not do anything about this? Not even casually advocate for better laws? Just treat women like shit as "revenge" for something they probably personally have nothing to do with? Are you aware that alimony laws are…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 08:13 AM
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Please explain concisely why you believe that "women are different" is grounds to deny them any of the rights listed above, and how "science" backs you up on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 04:05 AM
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You get what I mean though, right? If it's an environmental cause, it's not like it's an inherent trait of women, any more than criminal activity is for guys. Like you seem to believe, it's just the lowest common denominator of women. The ones from bad families, bad environments, shit like that. Also, like you it seems, I did not grow up well off. I've heard stories of elementary school friends becoming meth addicts and shit like that, but I was fortunate enough to have a mom that didn't suck as…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 10:26 PM
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The reverse scenario would be if I refused to date a girl now that I lift and I'm in good shape and I only saw her as an option once I stopped working out and got fat. Nah. The reverse would be more like if you said that when you were 25 she'd be a one night stand. She was (seemingly) looking for a relationship, and saying that she would just be a hole to fuck would probably hurt. Although, if she got hurt because how dare a guy not want marriage when he's in his early 20s, again I'd say "no sym…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 08:56 PM
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Fair enough. I just find it confusing. Most of them are pretty straightforward.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 08:47 PM
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It's basically just anger at women having a choice of who they have sex with. They're right about a lot of this self-improvement crap. Women DON'T want to sleep with a loser. But that's not because there's something wrong with them, or that they're really just too shallow and stupid. It's because that's completely normal and rational. I don't see RPs advocating that men are shallow and stupid because they're not sleeping with the overweight girl in the corner. No, they all go for the "8s, 9s, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 08:45 PM
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The anger is because you've replaced a fantasy of women as sex objects with a fantasy of women as sex objects that are inherently evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 08:33 PM
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Why do adjectives matter so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 08:24 PM
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I would be sympathetic if he felt like a consolation prize and was hurt by that. Instead, he feels like he's getting a consolation prize. I wanted to weep not just because I'm getting the leftovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 08:15 PM
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Really? Because he's the one that just threw away a relationship he was apparently very invested in, over a stupid little comment. Maybe if he knew what the word "communication" was, he'd have a happy relationship instead of being alone and fuming on the internet to other guys about how women suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 08:14 PM
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I would be sympathetic if he felt like a consolation prize and was hurt by that. Instead, he feels like he's getting a consolation prize. I wanted to weep not just because I'm getting the leftovers. You know what? He's proof that assholes don't necessarily get girls. Because he sure as fuck IS an asshole, and yet he's still sulking that he never got a real girl, he just got a worthless used sperm bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 08:11 PM
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"She's obviously just rationalizing, because I think bodybuilders look amazing"? That's all you've got? The problem here is that you are assuming what her intentions must be based on your own false assumptions. Assumption A: Women all like men on a rigid feminine -> masculine scale, with "arms so big they can't wipe their own ass" being the ideal. Assumption B: You know what women want more than they do, and therefore any deviation from what you expect is her being a lying bitch. And on top of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 03:57 AM
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If she thought she was chasing better men, why would she say she considers them disgusting now? She'd just say "I would never have dated you when I was 25, I only dated bodybuilders, but now I want someone with a better job that can support kids" or some shit. Saying "I dated people I now consider repulsive" is basically saying you think you made a mistake. Who the hell would say "I used to date anorexic women because I liked how they look but now when I see them they look disgusting" and actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 02:20 AM
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Really? It doesn't sound like love. He basically thinks he got the short end of stick having to have her now. Sounds like he believes he's "settling" for her. You are even worse. She's saying that she's not what she used to be and at what she considers her best she wouldn't have picked him? No. You are saying that. She probably doesn't think she's worth shit all now that she's not 25. She's saying "wow those bodybuilders are disgusting, I can't believe I used to like them". It really doesn't sou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 02:13 AM
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You know how red pill guys always say that "just because a woman is feeling something, doesn't mean it's valid"? Yea, that's him right now. He is hurt because women are a commodity to him and he hates that he didn't acquire this one earlier. Well tough shit, because it turns out they're actually people. To him, women shouldn't have their own ideas about what they want from sex and relationships at any point in their lives. They should be available for whatever a chosen man wants, whenever he wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 10:15 PM
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tend to be very over-confident Tend to be over-confident? Or tend to act over-confident? People with very low self esteem often over compensate for it by being truly obnoxious about how awesome they think they are. A perfect example of this: the fat girls that very openly and loudly spout off about how they're perfect the way they are and everyone else is wrong. It's a defense mechanism. Don't confuse it with true self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 09:27 PM
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... That's why you go to these dating advice places. To help with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 08:17 PM
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The fuck it is. Confidence is the most basic thing you need. Red pill guys just get that confidence through an unwarranted feeling of superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 08:46 AM
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I wonder exactly how much of an accident the pregnancy was? Was she on the pill and skipped a couple of days? Was he using condoms? You're kidding right? "How much of an accident"???
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 06:32 AM
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Can you state that as a rule that a 30 y.o man has a "distinct advantage emotionally and psychologically" over an 18 y.o woman? Especially considering the BP position of everyone being an unique individual and therefore it being impossible to have rules or theories on women/dating? Here's where you're getting to the crux of it. How likely is it that a woman that probably has literally no life experience (it is very very likely she has not lived on her own, paid bills, solidified her life goals, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 05:17 AM
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I explained what's wrong with TRP. The basic core that is actually helpful is not specific to TRP, and a lot of it is toxic and/or flat out wrong. How much do I need to simplify this for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 04:52 AM
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What do you think would be of value then? Because I outlined the basic tenets of a lot of successful dating/seduction advice places. I am not an expert on them because quite frankly, the point is that "the blue pill" does not say "just be a nice guy" and there are several places and groups that will address a sexless college male's desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 04:39 AM
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What does the blue pill have to offer to the average, sexless college age male? "The blue pill" is actually pretty much anything that's not the red pill. It's nothing in particular. There's no universal blue pill dating advice. TRP comes in and delivers straight talk that no one else does. No. It doesn't. It delivers some grains of truth wrapped in pseudoscience and misogyny. I seriously doubt you can find anywhere on reddit that actually says "just be nice". Have you never seen "rule 1: be attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 03:55 AM
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The red pill is full of hypocrisy. You know why? Their view of women is flawed. They call all of these negative traits as traits that women have, but really, almost 100% of it is just PEOPLE things. By pretending that men are flawless, they Women are shallow but trp guys literally refer to women by numbers based on their looks? Hmm, somehow I don't think being shallow is something just for women. It's almost like some people are shallow from both genders. Now they just have to figure out the par…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 11:01 PM
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