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Sorry, I don't believe you. Fear is not rational like that. Most people are somewhat intimidated by authorities and highly successful individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:25 AM
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I'm a workaholic/career girl, at least as much I can be in college (prestigious internships and school). In my experience, men who say they are never intimidated by women or not by their careers is a boldfaced lie. Men who approach/talk to me in public will do a complete 180 when I barely mention what school I go to, or especially the firm I worked for. No, I am not bragging, I only answer their questions and don't bring it up otherwise. I know I sound like a pretentious douche saying these thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:23 AM
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Are you not intimidated by successful people? If you met a CEO, wouldn't you be a bit intimidated? They have generally higher standards, accomplishments, may be in a position of power, and are harder to impress.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:10 AM
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I've always thought the frigid ice queens would be the workaholic ones. Frigid and much more smarter and vindictive. This is pretty much me to a T. It's a very divisive position. Some men don't like it at all, some guys are super into it. Usually older men and highly successful guys are more into me after finding out I'm a bit abrasive lol. I guess they're more used to people sucking up to them. Now that think about it, a smarter and successful woman would probably try to make your life miserabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:07 AM
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Yeah.. I never talked to models before... if a female model got self-esteem issues she should consult a doctor. She's fucked in the head. The most attractive people in the world have no reason to have self-esteem issues. No. That's not how it works. Self esteem issues are entirely separate from how an outsider sees you. If you are not an M.D., you should not authoritatively say someone if psychologically disturbed. This is pretty typical- go on modeling forums. "Having a reason" has nothing to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:56 PM
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Ok? What's your point? The vast majority of people get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:36 PM
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They don't explicitly say the words "holding women to moral standards". But they go around lamenting how hypergamy is destroying society, how women are responsible for the fall of civilization, while advocating the male version of hypergamy. Some men will say it's just their nature, but they get stampeded by all the cries about hypergamy, divorce rape, friendzoning, and what not. There is a lot of paranoia about being cheated on and being left for "chad" by women, but if a RP guy said he cheated…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:31 PM
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This is a very vague statement. Maybe if you criticize her by calling her a whore, or saying she should be raped, as was advocated in the other thread? Sure. Otherwise, I don't think feminists encourage the idea of the "virtuous, modest" woman- that's a traditionalist view. The feminist viewpoint is that men and women are both subject to flaws due to human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:26 PM
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Yeah. But how attractive are you to begin with anyway? Model-worthy? I'm not gonna toot my own horn here because it's pointless and won't be believed. I would say I'm pretty attractive by objective standards, but don't always feel that way. It doesn't matter though because actual models feel the same thing! Go on some modeling forums and you will see. No, its just a mechanism to get more attention. That's about it. They crave attention because of insecurity. Attention = validation. You just said…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:23 PM
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It isn't. But they do. Right. Your point? Criminals usually get laid by other people with low socioeconomic status, for a variety of reasons related to poverty. Drug dealers get laid in exchange for drugs. Most people don't know that serial killers are killers, they usually seem very normal. It's a weird fascination with these groups that I don't understand. Good men and educated men also get laid. Like to consider, but they are still emotional. Yes, but then they run with this idea to promote t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 09:23 PM
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You were talking about incels (directly used the word in another comment). So I will refer to them. Most of those guys subscribe to RP ideas anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 09:18 PM
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I'm just saying- stop complaining that no one "taught you" about women find attractive. That is casting blame upon others for your incompetence. Also, I'm very introverted and have a very small group of friends. Yet I still figured this out quite intuitively.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 09:16 PM
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Don't see any hypocrisy pointing out that women aren't sugar and spice. No, that's not the point. Feminists actually discourage this view. The point is the hypocrisy in how women are expected to live up to certain moral standards that men are excused from, while RP claims men are more moral/righteous. Personally, I believe everyone is shallow and don't have a problem with it. I'm just countering the cries about women being shallow (in contrast to men)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 09:13 PM
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Why is it a burden of morality upon women to not have sex with bad men, instead of a burden of morality on men to not be serial killers, drug dealers, or bad people? People are emotional. RPers are people, meaning they are emotional. They like to consider themselves not emotional, stoic, and very logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 09:11 PM
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Nothing wrong with that. I gawk at chads myself. Can't blame a guy for admiring art, can ya? Idk, you are the one bringing up "gawking at Chads" like it's against your religion somehow. I guess we got that cleared up. What they do is, they pretend to have low self-esteem in order to gain attention from men, more validation, gifts, protection and money. No. You don't understand women's minds. Just because she is attractive does not mean she cannot have low self esteem. Some days I feel really shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 09:07 PM
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The bitterness and misogyny stems from guys being chronically rejected and ignored by women time and time again. A lot of incels admit they have never asked a women out, but they are still misogynists. And anyway, being rejected does not justify bitterness and misogyny. Don't you agree that this is an emotional and irrational reaction? That funny, didn't the feminists movement emerge from women bitching and crying, kicking and screaming because they weren't getting what they wanted? Yeah, they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 08:55 PM
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In the case of males they aren't told about sexual strategy, they sure as hell aren't told about female strategy and what women find attractive Guess what, in life you can't wait around for people to teach you things or tell you stuff. It's a victim mentality. Nobody "explained" what men find attractive to me, my parents told me looks don't matter. But I watched with my own eyes what actually happened in society. You want to be the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 08:22 PM
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You're also using a strawman to describe these guys by calling them spergatoids, not all guys who are struggling are spergs with weak social skills, many of them are guys with fair social skills, have friends, go out, etc, Huh? They describe themselves in this way. Look at how many men in /r/incels or /r/foreveralone say that they are recluses, autistic, or have never asked out a woman. Not really surprising that others will see them this way as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 08:20 PM
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That being said, in light of this, I think women don't have a right to complain about the hate and misogynistic backlash emitting from men on the losing side of the modern sexual landscape. Yeah, regardless of everything else, this doesn't logically follow. Why does rejection being acceptable imply that misogyny is acceptable? Where is the logical process? There isn't one, it's just an emotional reaction. You have no right to shame them, mock, them, or talk down on them for reacting the way that…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 07:50 PM
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Why are they going places with no hot girls? It's not like hot girls are so hard to find
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 05:43 AM
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Well as for making it to a second date, there are wayyy more factors going on than just physical attractiveness. And it's 33% vs 50%- not really a big enough difference to justify 80/20 and the extreme view of the SMP RP has. It could also depend on sampling/the location
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 05:42 AM
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All of them are getting much less sex than most people on this sub think, and while they're more able to get women, women don't throw themselves at them. I think meeting/dating/fucking takes more effort from attractive people of both genders than many people here think. Yeah I think a lot of RPers project these extreme hedonistic fantasies onto so-called "Chads". It's another way for them to feel wronged/like they've been done an injustice- and another way to feel that the bar is just way too hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 05:13 AM
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When a minority of attractive men are enjoying the lion's share of women.. Yeah but i don't think this is the case. If the minority of attractive men have that much appeal, they won't be looking at average or below average women. Chad is a psychological pin cushion/voodoo doll that helps give the ego comfort for failing with women. That is why he is mythologized and caricatured with extreme attributes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 05:06 AM
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Is that a typo? did you mean attractive men who do do well with women? That's a typo, yes. But the thing is, how can those metrics be considered ridiculous when I just described guys who fit the criteria fairly well? Because this is not how Chad is commonly described. Nobody agrees on who/what Chad is, but I don't think most RPers would ever say that Chad is short, for example. He's always described as perfect in every way- height, looks, fitness, social ability, career success. Some people see …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 02:26 AM
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In my other post, I wasn't trying to say that attractive men who don't do well with women don't exist. Of course they do. But the metric some RPers/incels/MGTOW have set up for who "Chad" is extremely ridiculous. They make it ridiculous because it makes a good excuse for why they don't succeed- if the bar is so high, it's ok to fail. That was the point. Another issue is that there is no real consensus as to who Chad is... here he can be short and emotionally vulnerable. Some define Chad as a 10/…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 10:54 PM
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This is exactly what I was trying to say in the other post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 10:49 PM
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So you don't have to be chad to get casual sex. You just need to be a 9? well, that takes a weight off my shoulders! Definitely stick with that victim mentality, I'm sure it will earn you success in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 10:17 PM
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If someone gives me a lambo, the price is effectively $0. If people are consistently gifting me lambos, and I am getting them for $0, then I can afford lambos.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 10:00 PM
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For casual sex, yeah. The closer you are to being a chad the easier it is to get casual sex. When you are chad you get lots and lots of casual sex, and FWBS. Which is the dream of many, many guys. So the more attractive you are, the easier it is to have casual sex. Who knew? But average men also get hookups. Relationship attention doesn't mean much. To get casual sex, that is the goal. What do I want a girlfriend for? I already have a job. It doesn't mean much to you. It does to other people. Pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 09:56 PM
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How many men like that do you know in real life? Anyway, I'm not saying that very attractive men don't exist. I'm saying that you don't have to be the guy in your pics to do well with women. If there is a guy like that in the area, he is not "taking" all the women and he is not the reason you don't do well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 09:49 PM
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5.9 vs 6.6 isn't a huge difference. I think it is accounted for by the fact that women usually put a lot more effort into their appearance (makeup, skincare, hair, fashion).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 09:46 PM
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I've not only met men who meet all the criteria, I also live with them. I know what they bring home. Have you ever seen a guy bring 2 hot girls to fuck at the same time? Without paying for it? I have! Really, you live with not one but multiple guys who are 99th percentile in height, muscles, and wealth? On top of 90+th percentile, for facial looks and social ability? No kidding?? Who'd think that? Most couples are looks matched because the women can't select a chad for a relationship if the wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 09:04 PM
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Well if you're also in the library studying, you will see them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 08:59 PM
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Lol no, they were sleeping in the library and in office hours or lab. Seriously you have a delusional worldview
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 08:58 PM
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Those men aren't Chad by RPers definition though. Yeah I meet highly successful people sometimes, they are not 6'4", hypermuscular, and pursuing women all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 08:57 PM
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and 5 male classmates or something without counting me. There were 2 male models in that class. An environment where 40% of men are male models is highly unusual. Lol. Hottest girl to most guy is the chick who isn't fat, hard thing to accomplish as a woman, huh? So what if there are multiple thin girls in the office? And nah, all those expensive hair products, skincare products, and plastic surgeries exist because it's super easy to be attractive as woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 08:54 PM
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So when a woman rejects me and goes for a 6'6'' male model I'm use chad as a scapegoat instead of saying that women really do prefer chad and chad will always win over other men for casual sex? Yes, because how many 6'6" male models do you know? How can they possibly be taking ALL the women you go after EVERY time?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 08:50 PM
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A woman having sex with a model doesn't make her jump to the dude's league If she does consistently, on a mass societal level, then it does. As a fluke, no. If a girl is a 7-8 she is going to want a 9-10 to sleep with. Who do 10 girls sleep with then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 08:49 PM
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Women who are considered exceptional in the U.S are also considered exceptional in the US. Have you been to Eastern Europe? Sorry but the standards are much lower in the U.S. because hot girls are much rarer. So a "plain" Russian girl is "hot" in the U.S, also because there are more women than men in EE. It has nothing to do with hair color. Because exotic is usually associated with attractive people. But there are non-exotic attractive people. Why fixate on the exotic ones? Blue eyes are attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 08:44 PM
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If they were attractive prospects women would be approaching them left and right, as they do athletes, but they aren't. Nope, even if women find you extremely attractive they most likely won't approach. That's a non sequitur. I have been obsessed with guys who I found heart-stoppingly attractive (both in looks and personality), but never approached them. And if you are working literally every waking hour you won't meet that many women. Where are the nerds having 5-10 girls wanting to hop into be…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 08:40 PM
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They are up to women's standards, just not on par with that girl. Do you understand? If they are 2 standard deviations above average, she is 3. Also, Duke is not an ivy, but if you go to an Ivy, everyone there is Ivy League
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 08:33 PM
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And about height, most women can't tell apart 5'10 from 6'0. She'll believe whatever height you claim yourself to be If she's tall she can tell. It's mega cringe if you are caught lying about your height
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 08:29 PM
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They don't? You don't know that a 5 starts looking like an 8 when the chad's drunk? Why do you think average girls go to nightclubs? to see if they get lucky and a chad approaches them, lol. It might not happen but at least they might get to gawk at a chad. Alcohol works both ways. And what's wrong at gawking at Chad? Men go to strip clubs for the same thing. Its hard for women to be confident and have a high self-esteem when the guys who aren't approaching her aren't chad :/ No I think women ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 08:27 PM
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The study was conducted on OkCupid, which I believe skews things. Most men take terrible pictures of themselves for online dating sites. And women's attraction is highly dependent on their charm, mannerisms, gestures, and personality, so they are being rated before any of that is taken into account- in person, I think ratings would be much higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 08:18 PM
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Bullshit. http://www.newsweek.com/58-harvard-came-school-virgins-quarter-leave-way-336847 Why does harvard have so many virgins if all these intellectuals are so nice for hooking up? http://www.dailycal.org/2014/02/07/results-students-sex-much/ Why do Berkeley stem majors have a much higher rate of virgins than non science majors? Actually, this is right up my alley to answer. These people are working all the time. Sleeping overnight in lecture hall, ESPECIALLY Berkeley STEM majors holy christ. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 09:03 AM
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You see what you choose to see. It's not backed by the statistics at all . Did you just look at party girls, or the ones studying on Friday nights?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 08:48 AM
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You can believe me or not, but I don't consider myself unattractive, or socially stunted. In gay spaces I feel desirable, on tinder I do in fact have my ego hurt. I think men are definitely more open and vocal about their attraction, yes. Also I don't think Tinder is a particularly good way to gauge anything. and aren't able to get it from him I guess I used the term "get" ambiguously. But doesn't TRP define SMV and RMV as different things? Then their SMV is still on the same level. Chad is stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 08:46 AM
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It's the women who are all holding out for Chads out of their league that are the problem. If they can get Chad, then Chad isn't out of their league. I think some men are upset because they thought they were 7-8's, and the girl who is a 7-8 goes for a guy much better than them. This guy's ego is hurt (he must now see himself as below a 7-8), so psychologically he rationalizes that "Chad" must be too good for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 06:52 AM
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Rarity has nothing to do with attraction SMV is comparative. These are contradictory statements. Rarity is where it's at. Why is pale skin attractive in Asia? Why are blue eyes special/attractive? Why do people often like "exotic" traits? Why are girls that are nothing special in Eastern Europe considered exceptional in the U.S.? (hint: they are of much rarer quality). Rarity is why "New York City" standards are different than "Mississippi" standards. you cannot get any higher in SMV You definit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 06:36 AM
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Sure the 5's may look at him, but they don't realistically expect to get him. I think women generally know pretty well where they stand (due to being approached and having better social skills) and what they can get. I think women tend to have issues with low confidence and self esteem actually. So if they go home with someone (since RP claims that most women have high n-counts), and it's not Chad, who is it? Someone near their level. There literally don't exist enough Chads for all the average …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 06:01 AM
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Psychoanalyzing the minutiae of everything to an obsessive degree is what we're here for, I do believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 05:33 AM
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It depends. They sometimes do blame Chad, if they are not on the winning side of things (MGTOW/incels blame Chad a lot. For RPers, it depends). The general notion is though that Chad is somewhat responsible for the game being the way it is. So in that sense, though they don't directly always blame Chad, Chad become the scapegoat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 05:29 AM
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Cool but what was his competition? Balding, overweight middle-aged men? Does that mean they wouldn't consider other men, ever? And wouldn't the men also choose the hottest girl in the office?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 05:26 AM
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Nahh, a girl who looks like that is way more rare than a college athlete (even an Ivy League one). I don't know even one girl who looks like that or on par at my school. She would have money thrown at her all the time. So on the contrary, I think you are overrating those men's SMV. Which is part of the problem as I've stated- men tend to overestimate their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 04:41 AM
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I understand what you're saying about social skills. I think I am not bad at that stuff. The problem I always experienced is that I went out on dates and there was no attraction, so there were no nuances for me to react to. It's really hard to say without knowing you, but maybe you are playing it too safe? Being a bit quirky/eccentric can sometimes be better than being too bland. But if you are consistently getting dates, there must sometimes be attraction. Maybe you are just missing the subtler…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 04:32 AM
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Most people end up having sex and relationships, so standards on a societal level are not a problem. The issue is that some men overvalue themselves and then are upset when they can't get the women they want. If you are incel you are in a small minority. Elliot Rodger only wanted hot blonde sorority girls, btw (read his manifesto). Also he wanted them to somehow fall all over him- he never approached. An example of the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 04:29 AM
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I agree with this. However you sometimes see those melodramatic personalities on TRP as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 03:56 AM
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Not fat bitches ethier Exactly- this is the idea RPers in this thread have ignored. I often hear "waah wahh, I'm a 7 (according to my own arbitrary rating) but can't pull 5's because CHAD steals them away!! Not my fault!" Reality: you can't pull 5's because you're a 4. "Chad" has his pick of the hot girls, he doesn't look at 5's. That's why I say Chad exists as a scapegoat/boogeyman to save that guy's ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 03:55 AM
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Chad doesn't have to be universally attractive. I know it sounds like he is when you read red pill comments. But Chad is the guy an individual woman perceives as a 10/10 Just look at this thread. None of you agree on what a Chad is. Everyone has a different definition. If Chad can be anyone the heart desires him to be, he can very easily be a scapegoat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 03:45 AM
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Really ? What makes you think this? Kind of lol'ing at this comment because I'm in a STEM major.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 03:42 AM
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It wouldn't surprise me at all if many RPers are perfectly acceptable in looks. Social skills is a very loaded term. If I mention that I haven't, shall I say, achieved my dating goals, it is almost a certainty that someone will come along and claim that I lack social skills. Indeed, some RPers have suggested this! In fact, I have very good social skills, I'm easy to talk to, I'm more than competent at conversing with people. I mean understanding social nuance. Some guys, although physically unat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 03:40 AM
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As said before, your entire post is a strawman because a chad is not the minimum requirement to have sex or a relationship, it's the requirement to have lots of casual sex or ONS with ease. Except this is changing the goalposts. RP claims that women don't "date down"- i.e., they only date men more attractive than them. This is probably contained to the (more histrionic) incels subreddit, but many claim that you need to be Chad to get any female attention at all. Secondly, what is "with ease"? Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 03:28 AM
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