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| – | Men who have a hard time getting laid, do you read romance novels?I’m literally dying from reading OP’s post. It’s like grandma telling her grandson who’s struggling in high school physics to watch Star Trek. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 03:43 PM |
| – | A lot of people don't really know who they are or what they want, and that makes them incredibly frustrating to dateI think what you’re describing is someone who lives their life like a ride on rails. They just feel more comfortable letting life happen around them rather than actively participating in it (which is you). I think your frustration may come from the misperception that this is somehow intentional on her part when she probably doesn’t even have any awareness of this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 08:25 AM |
| -4 | Modern Men Are Being Punished for a Past They Didn’t CreateI’m gonna play the devil’s advocate and say that some level of suspicion towards men is actually justified (with justified being the keyword). My question for you is how did you objectively determine your level of suspicion is actually reasonably justified? Basically I’m asking if it’s possible that your level of suspicion isn’t beyond what is reasonable? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 04:06 PM |
| 28 | I think that women highly value confidence and this puts men at a significant dating disadvantage.What do you actually mean by "confidence”? It seems like this term is being used in a vague way and you’ve constructed an entire argument around it before concretely defining it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 03:51 PM |
| 1 | Men should be happy to pay for the first dateFirst dates are where you put your best foot forward. Women spend hours getting ready, using expensive products because they want to appeal to the man, but when he doesn’t offer to pay for dinner, he isn’t fulfilling his respective role in putting his best foot forward. But is this the reality we actually live in where women aren’t often just window shopping for men and using online dating for free meals? If there’s an argument to be made that women aren’t putting their best foot forward, is it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 07:55 PM |
| 9 | We will never get true gender equality in society. Because whenever equality shows up, a lot of women see it as misogynistic.I think as this idea of “gender equality” becomes more widespread culturally and women are viewed as on equal standing with men, we’re going to see a decrease in men financially donating to female streamers like Pokimane. If it’s not already happening, I think people will start to view popular streamers more as the evil wealthy instead of a girl in a male dominated online space needing a helping hand. On a related note, women don’t see the difficult and miserable parts of being a man. If it were… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/26 05:45 AM |
| – | They’re A lot of Misconceptions About Dating Apps.The mistake we as men are making about this stuff is that we’re coming into this thing all wrong. I think also you’re almost touching on the core of the issue by pointing out lookism as an example. At the basic level, a lot of men simply don’t even know about effective attraction dynamics. Without that understanding, men are just navigating dating blindly whether it’s online or in some other setting. And I think society has changed over time such that men doing things blindly is leading to less … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/25 10:31 PM |
| 2 | Redpillers I know IRL are losersThere’s nothing in a redpill framework that says espousing the ideology won’t make you a loser. And there are plenty of romantically successfully guys who essentially behave in a redpill manner without having any concept of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/25 05:18 PM |
| – | What is the motive behind telling men to be kind and it will improve their dating chances?The thing is though, that view didn’t just pop out of thin air. The most common dating advice that guys hear from society is that kindness is the lever they can pull to get affection. Sure we can blame men for having the wrong expectations but at the same time we’re also putting those same expectations into their heads. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/25 04:17 AM |
| – | What is the motive behind telling men to be kind and it will improve their dating chances?Kindness matters to the woman who is mutually attracted to u so the interaction progresses into a relationship. You hit it on the head. But I think where the frustration comes from is how this actually plays out from the typical guy’s perspective. Your typical guy might get conditioned by society into thinking that being equally kind to all women would result in all women having equal interest in a relationship with him. And when that expectation collides reality, they find that it’s only a few … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/25 03:40 AM |
| 3 | Male sexuality is a net harm to women and women are better off decentering men or entering relationships with each other.Some of the power imbalances you bring up such as sex are purely due to biology. At least for those things, the imbalances are always going to be there. From your perspective, those imbalances are negative but is that the opinion of women around the world? Perhaps you’re in the minority on the viewpoint? Are there not a lot of women who are comfortable with and may even prefer traditional gender power dynamics? And lastly regarding women dating each other, don’t lesbians have the highest divorce… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/25 03:05 AM |
| 10 | Do you actually NEVER get laid or approached, or are you exaggerating?We must be in the same club. I’m Asian, short and a little overweight which pretty much puts me at the bottom of the general population dating ladder in Western society. With that said, I can get laid once in a blue moon by spamming literally every single dating site/app. And the few matches are all Asian fetishists with emotional or financial problems. Sure, I suppose I’m doing better than someone who never gets laid but in some ways feel even worse because I get to see exactly where I stand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/25 09:30 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Why do you misunderstand or malign well-intentioned dating advice?The “dating advice” you’re talking about mostly focus on the attraction side and less on the arousal side. As a whole, finding a mate involves a combination of both. The men who push back on “dating advice” aren’t fully rejecting the attraction side. They just believe the arousal side of mate selection dynamics plays a much bigger role and is neglected from the discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/25 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Admitting something I have noticed as a woman myself: Many women take it really personally and get annoyed if an attractive man ends up dating someone below his "league" looks wise. Is it the same for men?That and there’s also an underlying threat of violence that the women is not actually intending to communicate but the man would understand very clearly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/25 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Would you date someone who fetishizes you? Why or why not?It’s a combination of social climbing and racial factors. In Eastern Asian cultures, there’s a lot of pressure to portray an image of idealized success. Financial success is an obvious one within Asian countries. But if you take that mindset to a Western society, which race is at the top of the social hierarchy? That’s the race that Asian women within that society chase after. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 10:40 PM |
| 5 | "Red pill" men really just want approval from the same women they complain aboutSo my question becomes this: why not just focus on the women who actually like you as you are rather than complaining about a specific kind of woman and then doing a bunch of work just to become what those women want? Your question generally assumes redpill guys have dating options. I suspect the guys who are most receptive to redpill advice have almost non-existent dating options. In their minds, acting on redpill advice is one of the ways that gets them to a point where they’re even able to pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 08:04 PM |
| 3 | Why are there never forums of people trying to decode men in the same way people try and decode womenvery rarely will you see a women trying to decode or discussing men in the same way. At some point, these discussions start to get philosophical / epistemological. If we get away from the topic of gender debate and look at other topics (ie. religion, politics, etc) that are discussed this way, it’s typically overwhelmingly male. I have no clue why this is but it seems to me that some men enjoy discussing things this way while the majority of women have no interest in it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 09:50 PM |
| 9 | How Can We Improve Dating Sites?I think another factor is that fundamentally dating is about biological mate selection and biology doesn’t care about fairness or civility. We can try to apply fairness or civility to it but I wonder if it that’s actually truly what people want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/24 05:37 PM |
| 40 | Will you give up porn in order to have the best relationship possible with a woman?Is this essentially just asking if men will trade digital sex for the real thing? It seems like the obvious answer is yes with the exception for the porn addicts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 06:42 AM |
| 67 | Do conservative men prefer liberal women?If a conservative or any man is cheating on their wives, they don't care about the other person's political orientation. They just need another person who's willing to have sex. If OP's assumption is that liberal women are also more liberal sexually, then conservative men are more likely to find their way to liberal women. This really has less to do with politics and more about personal behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 05:40 AM |
| 8 | CMV: Why are males more likely to stay in miserable marriages?To be fair, OP is pretty well known around here for making ragebait debate posts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 03:14 AM |
| 3 | The 4B movement is just female MGTOW.Isn't the American 4B trend just a reaction to Trump winning the election? It seems to me like it's more of an anti-Trump thing rather than purely about gender conflict. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/24 09:13 PM |
| 44 | You are not oppressed for being a woman, or a victimI agree with this take. OP's debate is really more about "what constitutes as oppression" rather than "is oppression actually happening?" Both sides need to clearly identify what oppression actually is or else they're simply yelling past each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 10:53 PM |
| 14 | You are not oppressed for being a woman, or a victimTbf, OP specifically acknowledges oppression of women in non-Western countries and that his argument is specifically about Western societies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 10:25 PM |
| 7 | What are your thoughts on why men aren’t attending singles events?It’s simple economics. Attendance by men is directly proportional to likelihood of positive outcomes from attending said events. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 01:45 AM |
| 4 | Do you think it's harder to find a good job or a good partner?Look, I’m all for acknowledging the difficulties of dating for guys but a million dollar job is a fraction of 1 percent. Unless you lost a face in a car accident or something, I have a hard time believing you’re down so badly to the point of being in a fraction of 1 percent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/24 05:41 AM |
| – | Body count always has and always will matterWhich is a large proportion of men that this matters to | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/24 01:45 AM |
| 5 | Guys don't have to worry about being judged for having strong sexual desires.Guys say that they are judged for having strong sexual desires but is there any real consequences to that that guys have to worry about? Not currently. But if Reddit users’ opinion on men became law (which some hope it will), we’d probably all get the electric chair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 10:41 PM |
| 6 | The most recent season of “The Bachelorette” is a perfect example of why “women should just pick better men” is terrible adviceNobody is telling women to “pick better men” when the guy presents himself well. “Pick better men” is often told to women when they’re head over heels over an attractive guy who has glaring red flags she’s choosing to ignore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 09:47 PM |
| 3 | What is the best way for autistic men to apply the red pill without falling into its overwhelming toxicity and mentally damaging themselves???This is generally pretty good advice when it comes to analyzing all types of issues (not just the inter-gender debates we have here). When you look at a lot of online debates, it becomes clear that most are arguing simply from emotions and are only looking to win the argument. When you’re able to detach emotion (as much as possible), almost every debated issue become much more nuanced and you’re less likely to take an all or nothing position. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 04:41 PM |
| 3 | “Women aren’t a monolith” vs “Not all men”In any debate around emotionally charged topics, you’re going to find two groups of people: those who can look at it stoically and those who can’t. If you’re involved in the debate due to emotions, you’re not going to look for understanding, compromise or nuance. It’s only about winning at all costs. This is the group you’re referring to. If you’re able to step back and look at issues from an almost clinical perspective, you can actually understand the arguments from the other side. Those in thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/24 01:36 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Hitting "the wall" as a woman should be embraced!In that sense interactions and interest in you becomes less shallow leading to more genuine connections. While you lose shallow attention from men, I think you do also lose out on some genuine connection as well. I believe physical attraction does play a role when it comes to the overall package of attraction. I guess this all boils down to the circumstance of the individual woman. If they don’t ever want to receive the male gaze; then it’s great. But if they still want to occasionally feel good… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/24 03:24 AM |
| 4 | Red pill men, why are you simping for other men?is your ideology making you happy? What is true isn’t affected by whether if it makes people happy or not. Based on your other responses, it seems you’re stuck on the idea that belief should primarily revolve around happiness. Belief needs to be foremost about truth. Otherwise, we should all be believing in feel happy religions regardless of whether it’s true or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/24 02:37 AM |
| 6 | Red pill men, why are you simping for other men?I think the problem is that you’ve already made up your mind that people who acknowledge redpill dynamics can’t be good people and so you’re completely closed off to hearing anything else. It sounds like you come to beliefs based on how it makes you feel rather than the reality of facts (whether it feels good or not). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/24 02:14 AM |
| 9 | Red pill men, why are you simping for other men?All you got to do is be a kind person to people. You know it’s possible to be a decent person while still acknowledging the reality of redpill dating dynamics, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/24 02:02 AM |
| 6 | What do Redpillers make of poor couples?The prescriptive side deals with the oughts & shoulds. The descriptive side merely lays out the claim. Let’s take it off redpill for a second to make it a little more clear. Say there’s a community of people who agree with the claim that “studying improves test scores”. The descriptive side merely agrees with that statement. They could be lazy bums who don’t study at all but recognize studying would improve their grades. The prescriptive side says you ought to/should study in order to get better… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/24 11:41 PM |
| 0 | What do Redpillers make of poor couples?You’re talking only about a prescriptive side of redpill which not everyone in that umbrella embrace. However, those who espouse those talking points happen to be the most vocal and outrageous part of that community as often see on social media. The descriptive side (ie. dating dynamics) from what I gather is what everybody in that circle actually agree with. So your argument really only works for that prescriptive side of redpill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/24 11:18 PM |
| 10 | Why do men demonize women over 30 so much?Tbf, the men who are most vocal about that also happen to be social media personalities who got to where they are by being outrageous. Their argument seems to be that if fertility is mostly what one cares about, then age becomes a dominant factor by which they measure attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 07:43 PM |
| 1 | Why is the danger sense of women very confusing.Anecdotally, I’ve seen it vary by age when I talked about the bear/man dilemma with women aged 40+ at the workplace. Younger women immediately picked the bear but older women were more likely to pick the man. Seems to me like lived experiences and possibly exposure to social media influences women’s outlook on men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 03:26 PM |
| – | Women's spaces have a hard time trying view men as human.how hard is that to understand? If you have a schizophrenic parent, you’ll come to realize it’s pretty difficult to get an irrational person to think rationally. An idea will get stuck in their mind and nothing you can do will change it. From their perspective, they’re thinking straight and you’re the one who’s actually nuts. You can present all the evidence in the world and it won’t make a lick of difference. At first, it’ll frustrate the living hell out of you. After a while, you just learn to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 12:31 AM |
| – | “Hive mind” is male-speak for “consideration of and for others.”Let’s say we find a group of guys who by default take any man’s side when an allegation is made by a woman. They say it’s primarily due to them being a man and being more able to relate to other men who they assume are also good. All of them came to this belief independently and didn’t receive any command from a hivemind and so they say they’re not a hivemind. In this case, I would still view them as a hivemind as the justification for their belief is primarily due to congregating around a commo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 10:22 PM |
| – | “Hive mind” is male-speak for “consideration of and for others.”Let me make sure we’re both on the same page. It reads to me that OP is equating a collectivist mindset as a hivemind and claims that people come to find feminism via this mindset. The respondents disagree that while they came to some degree of feminism, it was not by collective mindset. So in this case you would be correct in that OP has disregarded the other ways in which people come to their beliefs. Meanwhile to others it’s a no-brainer “duh” observation of “solidarity.” With regards to what… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 09:19 PM |
| 3 | “Hive mind” is male-speak for “consideration of and for others.”I also only see it in online discourse. I only see PPDers and manospherians use it. Being a mod, I assume you see this term thrown out a lot here. Could you link to some of those posts so we can get the context for how it’s being used and whether it’s justified or not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 08:07 PM |
| 10 | “Hive mind” is male-speak for “consideration of and for others.”Sounds like we need to actually discuss the specific cases in which “hive mind” is levied to see if it’s actually justified rather than dismissing it with a wide brush. As human beings, we occasionally engage in hivemind type thinking. Do we really not acknowledge that hivemind thinking occurs within political, racial or religious groups? Especially when it comes to topics that strongly resonate with one’s identity? If we acknowledge those, then why would we think gendered groups could somehow b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 03:45 PM |
| – | POSTS WITH AFFIRMATIVE CLAIMS AND LOADED QUESTIONS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE" POST FLAIR APPRECIATION DAILY MEGATHREADSure and while the guy’s out for a walk, he can probably find a job too! Boy, I think you and I just solved all of the world’s problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 03:14 AM |
| – | POSTS WITH AFFIRMATIVE CLAIMS AND LOADED QUESTIONS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE" POST FLAIR APPRECIATION DAILY MEGATHREADDo you have a friend that’s struggling financially? Try telling them to “just try harder at making more money”. They probably never thought of that before and would appreciate it very much. It’s also free, actionable, provides benefit if tried and has evidence to back up its effectiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 02:48 AM |
| – | POSTS WITH AFFIRMATIVE CLAIMS AND LOADED QUESTIONS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE" POST FLAIR APPRECIATION DAILY MEGATHREAD“Just go outside” seems to be the modern dating advice equivalent of “pulling yourself up by your bootstraps”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 02:18 AM |
| 6 | If women could magically force men to answer ONE question truthfully what question should women ask?“What about me truly bothers you?” The answer to this question really unmasks a guy’s internal feelings that can’t be easily deduced unlike some of the other questions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 01:59 AM |
| 12 | Q4M: How do you feel about Pick MesI’ve only seen the extreme version of pick me’s you’re describing in social media caricatures. I imagine a mild version who just really wants to please a guy without going overboard with it can easily find a partner and isn’t commonly available in the dating market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 01:20 AM |
| 2 | In-Person Purple Pill Discussions?You’re asking for a suggestion on how to do this: Again, I stress that my interest is thinking of ways of how we can start normalizing these kinds of discussions. I’m saying there’s essentially no way to do this without major shift in cultural norms and human behavior. Sure, we can start a cultural revolution to accomplish this. Are nearly impossible solutions for nearly impossible to resolve problems actually what you wanted to hear? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 11:00 PM |
| 1 | In-Person Purple Pill Discussions?Repeating myself in this way has become somewhat exhausting. That’s because you’re looking for a quick solution to a difficult problem. People tell you there is no quick solution and then you say that’s exhausting. I don’t understand what you’re expecting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 10:45 PM |
| 1 | In-Person Purple Pill Discussions?So I think we’re conflating some things. I agree with you that this subreddit is quite lively and the topics get participation from both genders. However, the sort of participation commonly found on Reddit is more like the Dr. Phil segment I had mentioned. It’s essentially hit and run one off posts with one off responses. This is how a large portion of people engage here. A deeper back and forth conversation (like the one we’re having) is not common for Reddit. It is a niche population who engag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 07:22 PM |
| 2 | In-Person Purple Pill Discussions?Look up videos of moderated philosophy related debates and see the type of people that are in them. The participants and audience for serious but boring debates largely skew toward males. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 06:18 PM |
| 3 | In-Person Purple Pill Discussions?This all depends on what type of debate you would like to have. If you just want a general open discussion with random people, it’ll devolve into a Dr. Phil segment where people throw out personal anecdotes and talk right past each other. If you want a quality debate where participants actually have some experience with proper debating, you’re likely going to end up skewing participation to males which sort of biases debates around gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 04:55 PM |
| 6 | What's stopping you from taking the Blue Pill?Red/blue pill are in a sense belief systems. People typically become convinced of a belief for a multitude of reasons. People can’t just suddenly change their belief unless the underlying reason(s) for that belief changes. If redpiller are pointing to evidence as reason for their belief, then they’d need to see better evidence for the other side to change their minds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 04:21 PM |
| – | You all need to touch grassYou’re talking about couples who met before success. Something tells me unattached highly successful guys (of which are rare) aren’t dating 18 years olds but I would bet you the age gap is way more than the 5 that you gave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 04:16 AM |
| 8 | CMV: Males should pay for the first date because makeup is expensiveThere’s luxury men’s cologne that easily cost $2k+. I’m pretty sure women will find it reasonable to split the tab once they find out I use expensive cologne. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 03:48 AM |
| 32 | People focus way too much on details, when ultimately most of this can be explained by one simple fact - women are not anywhere NEAR as horny as men. Everything stems from this.Some dudes here just aren’t used to hearing “no” for an answer. lol Btw, did you know women aren’t as horny as men? Just thought you should know. And I’ll remind you again in two weeks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/24 04:53 PM |
| 2 | There has been a rise in domestic violence against women - could modern dating dynamics play a part?source? I need a source in order to ask a clarifying question? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/24 01:11 AM |
| – | POSTS WITH AFFIRMATIVE CLAIMS AND LOADED QUESTIONS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE" POST FLAIR APPRECIATION DAILY MEGATHREADWell yeah. That’s because we still have a brain to think with. Ya’ll still got any left after giving brain to Chad? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/24 12:12 AM |
| 1 | What men want vs what they say they wantCan you help me understand? What is there to understand other than that the guy has an abnormal fetish likely due to a messed up upbringing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 11:50 PM |
| 4 | There has been a rise in domestic violence against women - could modern dating dynamics play a part?There has been a rise in domestic violence against women. Or is it actually that There has been a rise in reported cases of domestic violence against women. mainly due to availability of cellphone cameras and social media? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 10:15 PM |
| 8 | Prove me wrong Male Gold diggers are more worse then Female gold diggersthe worse thing is that men act like men like this don't exist That’s just your own strawman argument based on anecdotal personal experience. Of course male gold diggers exist. It just doesn’t exist to the degree that it does vice versa. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 10:10 PM |
| – | What's your dating hot take? Something you believe from your own dating experiences that this sub would typically disagree with?Those who dismiss modern dating dynamics imagine that it’s as simple as “just going outside” the same way boomers would tell you to just “pull yourself up by your bootstraps”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 07:42 PM |
| 1 | Typical age gap relationship post reactions don't help anyoneThe only age gap relationships of that sort I’m aware of are celebrity types. I think the older guys in those relationships are eccentric types who simply don’t care much about how society view them. And so if you remove the cultural pressure against age gap relations, men will simply default to a caveman state of dating the easiest and best looking fertile women around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 04:50 AM |
| – | For those of you who think women can get anything for free?Unless you have serious facial deformities or live a low income area, you can find guys who will offer to pay for dates if you put yourself on online dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 04:39 AM |
| 8 | Is it true that women's standards for casual are higher than her standards for a relationship?When it comes to guys, their standards for a relationship are higher than for one night stands or casual sex. So why are women flipped to where their standards for casual or higher, than for dating? Have you considered that the dating motivations for men and women are asymmetrical? If you think they’re the same, then you run into the issue that reality doesn’t match with what you imagine it to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 06:55 PM |
| 2 | 80 20 thing is justified because in general men put in less efforti think it's interesting how this is never mentioned whenever someone talks about the 80 20 thing Well yeah, that’s because most of the 80/20 discussions revolve around whether the 80/20 phenomenon even exists or not. You’re talking about the causes of the 80/20 phenomenon which is actually already addressed by dating models that take into account of hypergamy. But we can’t even get to this conversation because we’re often stuck at the starting gate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 06:15 PM |
| 3 | 80 20 thing is justified because in general men put in less effortwomen are more likely to put in a ton of efforts and go to extreme lengths to increase their social value. And so they feel like they deserve a partner at their social value or higher. Isn’t this exactly what hypergamy describes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 05:39 PM |
| 4 | Why are so many men convinced statistical analysis, pattern recognition, evo psych and other analytics can give them an advantage in dating?You're trying to convince someone to consider the data first before coming to a conclusion. OP already has a conclusion in mind so they'll just disregard any data or fact that doesn't support their preferred conclusion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 01:57 AM |
| 2 | Why are so many men convinced statistical analysis, pattern recognition, evo psych and other analytics can give them an advantage in dating?The bigger problem is that people like OP have no clue as to what they’re even complaining about. If we asked OP about a model of dating that they object to, they wouldn’t even be able to give a basic outline of what that model is. That’s why OP thinks it’s all nerdy gobblygook because they really don’t even understand what they’re angry about. They just automatically assume that it’s all just some nebulous evil men’s plan to criticize women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 01:32 AM |
| 2 | High Value Men Aren’t Monogamous?But that doesn’t mean the majority doesn’t think that way. It just means they’re not vocal about it. You’re watching too much of the loudest clickbaiters like Andrew Tate and confusing that with the majority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 07:32 PM |
| 3 | High Value Men Aren’t Monogamous?the us That’s bizarre because I live in the US too. Because if I asked 10 people that I work with whether sleeping around makes a man desirable, I don’t think the majority would agree with that. You’re telling me the majority of real people that you actually interact with think sleeping around makes a man more desirable? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 07:16 PM |
| 2 | High Value Men Aren’t Monogamous?if men are constantly told what makes them desirable men is sleeping with randoms why would any man grow up to not want to sleep with randoms constantly? What country do you live in where more people tell men that sleeping around makes them more desireable rather than the other way around? I assume you don't think that men who sleep around are desirable. Is that actually the minority viewpoint in your society? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 06:56 PM |
| 8 | Should men still approach?I think most guys should do it a few times simply to get a reality check for where they stand in terms of attractiveness to the population around them. It’s a way to effectively verify if your confidence (when it comes to dating) is justified or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 07:51 AM |
| – | Bluepill ideology really only works for those who have lived charmed livesWell, clearly you’ve watched more redpill content than I have because I don’t know where you’re seeing that. But hey, if that’s your reality then I totally understand how you feel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 07:43 AM |
| – | Bluepill ideology really only works for those who have lived charmed livesI realised that I didn't want want attention from women. I wanted women to like me for me. That’s interesting. I think if you ask some of the redpill guys around here, that’s also exactly what they would say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 07:16 AM |
| – | Bluepill ideology really only works for those who have lived charmed livesI’d argue that most people deep down get mildly redpilled (without even knowing anything about this pill stuff) simply by going through life. I think the people you would classify as pure bluepill are really just a vocal minority who exist mainly on social media. Most of us figure out by 4th grade who the popular kids are and the common attributes that make them popular. Imo, you have to be actively denying some part of reality to be a full blown bluepiller. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 07:05 AM |
| – | Bluepill ideology really only works for those who have lived charmed livesCan't change a mind with anecdotes though. So how did you make up your mind about redpill being bullshit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 06:47 AM |
| 4 | Hypergamy doesn’t really exist but women don’t know what attracts themBut the men here will never understand it. We understand it perfectly fine. We know there are intangible factors like feelings when it comes to matchmaking. But when we map out the quantifiable data of the dating market, we see there other factors that strongly correlates with how people match up. You just won’t acknowledge those other factors because you don’t like the possible implications and so therefore attribute it all to your preferred nebulous intangible factors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 11:54 PM |
| 5 | Does money and/or status create genuine attraction?The way I think about it is that money enables certain kind of lifestyles which in turn portrays a certain level of status. I see it as the lifestyle which is what actually attracts women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 10:44 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Hypergamy doesn't make senseWhat is your definition of hypergamy? Because you haven’t defined it in your post and it seems like there’s a disconnect between your understanding of that word and how it’s used by others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/23 09:28 PM |
| 2 | How much money/status do you think it takes for men to compensate for looks?From a practical point of view, yes. There are enough guys in online dating who make six figures for women to take turns dating them. An above average male income is something that the average women has easy access to so it’s not impressing her one bit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 04:37 AM |
| 10 | Men are hypergamous when it comes to looksYou’re right. Both genders want to date up. But let’s also acknowledge which gender is actually dating more at or below their level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/23 01:39 AM |
| 4 | What do you hope to gain from the red pill?I do wonder if the redpill rage thing is all that common. I feel like most guys already have some nebulous ideas around dating dynamics (ie. hotter, taller and wealthier guys have an easier time) that sort of match with redpill ideology. So when you do actually encounter redpill content for the first time, none of this stuff should be all that surprising since you already had an inkling towards that to begin with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/23 10:21 PM |
| 8 | What do you hope to gain from the red pill?I’ve come across a couple of RP men in real life and they are the angriest, most people bitter I’ve ever met. If your definition of a redpill’er is someone who’s constantly consumed with all this social media redpill stuff, then I have nothing to do with it. But if we’re just talking about redpill ideologies, most men (who have no clue about any of this pill stuff) have some nebulous idea of intersexual dynamics that sort of match with redpill talking points. So when guys eventually encounter re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/23 09:40 PM |
| 14 | Q4A: Suppose an average guy changes bodies with a top tier guy. How would their lives differ, and how do you think would they react to their new lifestyles?Paul would be shocked that he gets unsolicited eye contact from women in public places. Chad’s confidence level would drop accordingly with the reduction in successfully attracting partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/23 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Self Improvement WEEKLY DISCUSSION TOPICAre you saying that there is no (or low) relation between self-improvement and quality level of partners one is able to attract? If so, I think there is enough evidence to contradict this claim. Now if your claim is that passport bro’ing is an easier method than self-improvement to get higher quality partner, I would agree with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/23 07:50 PM |
| 1 | The standard rejections of "no spark, not enough chemistry and not feeling it" is just a nicety of 'I didn't find you sexually attractive.'I think generally speaking when women talk about "spark", they really mean a man they can be attracted to AND be aroused by. I would agree with you that no arousal = no spark. But I'd also argue that there could be arousal but not enough attraction, and therefore no spark. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/23 06:00 PM |
| 32 | How do you justify asking for a woman with a low body count, if yours is high?To exemplify this even more, imagine a beautiful broke woman who wants a wealthy man regardless of his looks. Guys have no problems with this arrangement even though the woman holds the man to a higher standard of wealth than herself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 07:58 PM |
| – | Would Men's Drive for Achievement and Success be the same without women ??It would probably be about the same. There are plenty of other benefits besides women that comes from achievement and success. Guys doing long term prison sentences (without any females around) still want to be better than the other the inmates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/23 05:16 AM |
| 1 | You get $10,000 if you can make your date reject you in under 1 minute, how do you do it? WEEKLY DISCUSSION TOPICEven better, that you’re enrolled in a university… at Hustler | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/23 03:01 AM |
| 2 | People dating need to be realistic with their expectationsbut people generally end up with someone on their level. True but if you have access to a lot of partners above your level, the incentive would be to keep trying with those above your level and only “settle” for someone at the same level as a last resort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/22 07:17 AM |
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