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In the same way that certain species of birds will discard their eggs if you touch their nest (responding to instinct), men value virginity out of instinct and similarly are disturbed by the idea of committing to promiscuous women out of instinct. The male of our species devotes more time to his young as a percentage of lifespan than the male of any species (the time devoted may actually exceed his own lifetime when one considers bequests and inheritance), so he is evolved to ensure the investme…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 11:23 PM
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Just date older guys, this really isn't complicated. Even if they weren't in college, the guys of this age group wouldn't be after commitment because they aren't mature enough or established enough. The whole college experience, where young people are segmented off from society in a big overnight camp, has no precedence in history, and you don't need to confine yourself to this false group. Young women have always found commitment by dating older men.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 03:59 AM
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Typically the women having a lot of kids did it with a single man. Otherwise the woman was outcast and the kids were raised at the orphanage.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/17 01:59 AM
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Totally agree you don't need to live your life according to others expectations, but character and reputation are also important, so one is wise to take into account perception. The article notwithstanding, most guys I know recognize the relationship between travel and 1.) sluttiness, 2.) being dissatisfied with daily life / simple things. That in itself says something - it's an example of The Wisdom of Crowds, a mathematically sound conceit. Live your life, my friend!
/r/RedPillWomen06/05/17 12:31 AM
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No, but signaling it. Like Dave Chapelle says about the women wearing next to nothing at the club - she may not be a whore, but she is certainly "wearing a whore's uniform" haha
/r/RedPillWomen05/05/17 11:30 PM
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A guy with a brain? Haha https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thrillist.com/amphtml/travel/nation/women-have-more-sex-on-vacation-study-says
/r/RedPillWomen05/05/17 11:14 PM
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No more THREATENED than he is by some bar fly. He just places her in the impossible to please probably huge slut category.
/r/RedPillWomen05/05/17 11:02 PM
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Fascinating to read a woman post this. Almost every single guy I know regards the travel bug as a sign of a fickle woman, displeased with daily life, or seeking validation online by posting pictures. Most guys assume these girls are slutting it up on their adventures - no reputation damage far from home.
/r/RedPillWomen05/05/17 10:41 PM
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Carousel rider vs stripper/prostitute. Any difference really, except in degree of concealment and their own self deception? The more I see and the more I know, the more sluts seem no more worthy of respect than outright whores. Thoughts, gentlemen?
/r/TheRedPill04/05/17 09:11 PM
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The slice is bigger abroad
/r/TheRedPill03/05/17 11:34 PM
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It's tougher lone wolf, but if you come across larger than life and incorporate everyone it's still possible. Recently I meshed with this group of three girls, one boyfriend. He was glad to bring another dude into their evening, his endgame secure, the females were pleased too. You gotta establish dominance though, and non threatening. In this case the dude wasn't a rival to begin with but he was cool deferring to me leading the social interaction after I told him I live nearby, talked a bit abo…
/r/TheRedPill03/05/17 10:23 PM
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I would disagree about the bars. A few buddies of mine routinely come prowling with me and are pretty proficient at enveloping the group. Totally agree if it is too loud though - becomes impossible to distinguish yourselves and pull them into your frame.
/r/TheRedPill03/05/17 09:49 PM
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I find young women are not wise enough to understand they should be looking for an older man online. I'm only 30 and it is rare for me to match online with women under 25 years old because it simply doesn't conform to their schema. HOWEVER, when I approach them in real life or get introduced in social settings they are blown out of the water by the maturity and charisma they don't find among men their own age. Sometimes their mind rebels that I am 8 or 9 years older after they ask, but this quic…
/r/TheRedPill03/05/17 07:06 PM
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As big as I am (6'4", 270), I'm conscious not to come across as obnoxiously, overbearingly dominant, but maybe it doesn't matter? Or maybe I should?
/r/TheRedPill02/05/17 07:27 PM
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I saw this too. Way post wall, probably alpha widow big time trying to recapture something she failed to lock down years ago. God damn though, Red Pill theory provides insight on this but this is not an example AWALT. Most women aren't like this chick.
/r/TheRedPill02/05/17 07:21 PM
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It might INDUCE a false rape accusation is the point
/r/TheRedPill01/05/17 07:50 PM
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How do tall guys handle posture? It is necessary for tall guys to look down, not up
/r/TheRedPill01/05/17 03:05 AM
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Yes, your post gets to the core of it. In the strongest relationships you either face a common enemy or are united in a common pursuit that requires joint effort. With respect to sexual relationships, where the entire purpose of sex is procreation, this ties into the dissolution of relationships which are infertile. In evolutionary psychology, it is postulated that one or both parties will grow dissatisfied with the other after a period of time if there has been a lot of sex but no pregnancy - t…
/r/TheRedPill30/04/17 06:02 PM
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You get a much younger woman
/r/TheRedPill30/04/17 05:35 PM
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Girls who travel a lot are usually sluts. It's the same desire for novelty/variety, plus they can slut it up far from home without tarnishing their reputation.
/r/TheRedPill28/04/17 11:31 AM
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Lately I've been thinking this might be ideal. If a man kills the pair bond mechanism, he's no longer weak to any woman and can choose a mother for his kids and manage her based on strict criteria, still enjoy her himself as well.
/r/TheRedPill28/04/17 11:26 AM
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So it would follow that a woman who is a 10/10 is incapable of really bonding to a man until she ages and comes to recognize that she is now a 7 or 8. Even a 10/10 man provides no margin of safety. He would need to be off the charts; Tom Brady or Leonardo DiCaprio. Since social media has poisoned young women into thinking they are at least several points higher than objectivity says they are. . . cock carousel until the wall or beyond.
/r/TheRedPill26/04/17 03:58 AM
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Contrast this with the fantastic party my family threw for me on what would have been my wedding day, when I was 29 (after I called it off). It was like the male equivalent of a quinceañera - I was entering the prime of my life. I knew it, my friends knew it, my loved ones knew it.
/r/TheRedPill26/04/17 03:49 AM
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Don't wife a girl who you met on the Pill
/r/TheRedPill20/04/17 05:20 PM
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Retirement package - great phrase. Yea it's fucking ridiculous. I worked hard all these years so we can "join forces" and I can retire her from the CC? No fucking way
/r/TheRedPill19/04/17 11:33 PM
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Female attraction to the male is based on BEHAVIOR and status even more than physical attractiveness. This is demonstrated even in lower primates. Of course, physical attractiveness is also way up there
/r/TheRedPill19/04/17 08:32 PM
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Totally agree, best form of ornamentation for a man's place
/r/TheRedPill18/04/17 03:56 AM
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And many, many more who DON'T. You're not going to hit 100%
/r/TheRedPill17/04/17 12:09 PM
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Not if: 1.) the expected value of consequences outweigh the pleasure, or 2.) you are her top option
/r/TheRedPill17/04/17 12:38 AM
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Certain. I provided you with more than enough - not my fault if you don't have time to read a book. Maybe you can flip through the citations. I read your link in its entirety - totally unconvincing. Good conversing with you, my friend, goodnight!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 03:11 AM
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The entirety of human history points to different behavior and motivations between men and women - much of it mirrored in male/female behaviors in many other species. The mountain of evidence is beyond overwhelming and I cannot do it justice here. Perhaps you could start with: The Descent of Man by Charles Darwin, The Red Queen by Matt Ridley, The Male Brain and its counterpart book The Female Brain both by Louann Brizendine, The Essential Difference by Simon Baron-Cohen. Honestly I do not want …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 03:00 AM
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Research at Harvard indicates not only do men and women have different brains structurally but their brains respond differently to stimuli at the CELLULAR LEVEL. The nature of thought itself is somewhat different: http://www.conte.harvard.edu/news/2015/6/5/brain-cells-that-differ-in-males-and-females
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 02:49 AM
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? Obviously not. Only too high; virgin has been most desirable for a wife literally everywhere on earth at all points in history
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 02:47 AM
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Thoughts on Refugees in America/Europe - While Muslim women are forbidden to get with non Muslim men, the Christian refugees from middle eastern conflicts (likely to get preferential treatment under Trump) strike me as quite good LTR/wife material, at least on paper. Many of them are very well educated, acclimated to a patriarchal culture, and probably appreciative of the niceties of western life. Has anyone given thought to this, or had experience with these groups? Is my suspicion wrong?
/r/TheRedPill10/04/17 08:52 PM
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Haha this is so true! I laugh to my self sometimes about how the best sexual experience I could've ever had would've been banging a super model tier girl when I was like 16 and the whole thing would've overwhelmed my sensory system (didn't happen for me). Now - still desirable, but wouldn't be AS good
/r/TheRedPill08/04/17 03:28 PM
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Oftentimes if you're clear with a plate that it is NEVER going anywhere, they'll reveal their world to you. Had one the other night texting me asking for advice about some dude who took her out. . . then asked me to come fuck her in the same text convo. I sidestepped her bullshit Q's and sent her some inane some rap lyrics, even though I don't really like rap. She's making him wait for the pussy . . . meanwhile he probably went home and wrote in his diary about overcoming his nerves to go for th…
/r/TheRedPill08/04/17 04:31 AM
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$500-$900 for 4-5 sessions per month?? Hahaha, not bad, short $$ actually, she must actually like you
/r/TheRedPill07/04/17 05:42 PM
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Actually, my friend, the advice you just received from this individual, illustrates, yet again, his embarrassing ignorance on fundamental concepts of human life. 1.). Virginity DOES matter, in large part due to the principal of sexual imprinting, which facilitates pair bonding. Biological imprinting occurs in many species, including our own - the literature is vast and fascinating. 2.). There is nothing rational about men gaining power uniformly - only individually or in certain segments of men.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 11:03 PM
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It's not black magic. Would you accept an organ transplant from an incompatible donor? No, your body would reject it. Her body and mind (just another organ in the body) rejects an incompatible partner as well. In fact, both of these phenomena are a function of histocompatibility. But if it gives you comfort to know the earth is flat. . .
/r/TheRedPill04/04/17 06:17 PM
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It gives you the information to leave if you are chemically incompatible. What an outrageous assumption about how to use knowledge like this
/r/TheRedPill04/04/17 12:09 AM
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Haha nice silver lining
/r/askTRP03/04/17 11:54 PM
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Ok, LewisBrainwashed. Is this forum about helping guys understand the reality of intersexual dynamics or is it about holding the leader's crown?
/r/askTRP03/04/17 09:10 PM
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Let the priest provide his own credibility, please
/r/askTRP03/04/17 09:00 PM
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Does this come from your extensive experience fucking married women who are not your wife? If not, could you please explain the basis of your advice here?
/r/askTRP03/04/17 08:54 PM
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Yes. The idea that the assets have already been taxed is fallacious in most cases as well. Without the estate tax, you could pass on an appreciated asset that has never been subject to capital gains, completely tax free to your beneficiary.
/r/TheRedPill03/04/17 06:00 PM
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I'm not familiar with the effect. It would stand to reason that she is least motivated and least capable of exploring other options in this vulnerable state though.
/r/TheRedPill03/04/17 03:41 PM
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Cute. You're a poser if ever there was one. As I analogized in another comment, what I posted is a survey of the battlefield, not the battle plan.
/r/askTRP03/04/17 02:58 PM
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No, I'm actually certain I bring relevant experience and knowledge to this forum. It's you who's spent years trying to get internet points
/r/TheRedPill03/04/17 02:51 PM
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The girl at the bar isn't in a vacuum, she feels the sexual pressure from society at large. Your 22 year old pupil is in competition with a whole host of men not at the venue, and he should know it. This spills over not just into picking up a girl for one night but maintaining her as well. And you're 100% wrong with your "zero bearing" bullshit. The #1 factor in attracting her is actually that you are male, which is the first order of chemical compatibility. The subtype of genetic compatibility …
/r/askTRP03/04/17 02:44 PM
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So you don't have personal experiential knowledge with women, nor do you have much understanding of biological concepts relevant to mate selection. What makes you qualified to dispense advice? And what makes you so arrogant that you shout down someone who brings both these things to this forum?
/r/askTRP03/04/17 02:29 PM
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You should honestly consider a histocompatibility test to see if it's a bad chemical match with your wife. You can order them online. Wouldn't that be something? You could free yourself from the behavioral chess match. If she was on the Pill when you met and libido went down post union, odds are high.
/r/askTRP03/04/17 02:19 PM
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You married the second woman you ever fucked and spent years trying to "fix it" - are you therefore unqualified to judge girls?
/r/askTRP03/04/17 01:45 PM
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Optimizing dual hypergamy in the same man is actually the most efficient and carries the least risk of blowback. It's the duplicitous whore who is at highest risk of abandonment. She resorted to this strategy because of failure to consolidate on a single male.
/r/TheRedPill03/04/17 12:15 PM
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We can certainly agree to disagree. . . but finding flaws in birth control is a feminist nightmare, not their objective, so I'm surprised you would think this. Immunological compatibility is different from what you described.
/r/TheRedPill03/04/17 12:07 PM
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She isn't just attracted to different behavior when she is off the Pill. The chemical attraction itself is altered. You're missing the message.
/r/TheRedPill03/04/17 06:33 AM
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MAY NOT. It's conceivable to maintain the exact same behavior but have her attraction shift as a consequence of going off the Pill. Or, to look at it another way, to have your exceptional frame/game rendered useless because it is trumped by biological revulsion
/r/TheRedPill03/04/17 05:40 AM
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My friend, the most useful form of the OSR is the long form, which is approximately 2:1 in the USA. This ratio is not seen in the sidebar. The narrower forms have their impact too but it's too laborious to write and cite ad nauseum in light of all the other commentary I've put here in response to you and other commenters. Like I said, I intended to flesh it out in another post for the benefit of the Red Pill crowd. This is not my pet theory. This was an expository post - I didn't identify the OS…
/r/TheRedPill02/04/17 12:07 AM
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The OSR is what it is because men remain fertile longer than women, consequently there are more men in sexual competition. If you don't think this has implications for the human mating system, you are truly lost.
/r/TheRedPill01/04/17 11:33 PM
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Once again, the OSR is reality. Its simple math comparing how many males and females are fertile and therefore in the thick of sexual competition. In humans, far more males in competition than females. It's not debatable. Only the implications are up for debate/analysis.
/r/TheRedPill01/04/17 11:17 PM
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Reasonable people can debate the exact societal effects of the OSR, but you can't really debate that there are cascading effects from an overabundance of fertile males relative to fertile females. For any individual man, this means recognizing at the very least that male competition is necessarily more intense and failure is common. This whole comments section should be a slideshow showcasing the raging reaction of close minded people to basic biological fact because it doesn't conform to their …
/r/TheRedPill01/04/17 10:58 PM
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With respect, you have to be a complete fool to learn about the effects of birth control in altering female desire and then conclude it doesn't matter. Not all of sexual attraction is behavioral (what is coached here on Red Pill), much of it is literally chemical. Birth control alters the female mate selection process biochemically. Go ahead and put your head in the sand if you want.
/r/TheRedPill01/04/17 10:36 PM
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The operational sex ratio is indicative of the level of intrasexual competition between males to access females. What on earth are you rambling about?
/r/TheRedPill01/04/17 10:34 PM
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I applaud your efforts, Archwinger. But it strikes me as completely antithetical to the Red Pill philosophy to shield guys from the harsh reality - and the OSR IS the harsh reality, even if you only want to limit it by the annual ratio, 2:1. In practice, the OSR is also ballooned by factors I mentioned in another comment such as divorce, longer lives and more infidelity, which have put more older men in competition with the 22 year old guy you are coaching on here. Far more than in generations p…
/r/TheRedPill01/04/17 07:03 PM
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Ovulatory shift is the most important reason why you should know about the narrower OSR. Female preference changes, she is more sexually assertive, and a man in an LTR is more susceptible to cuckholdry at this time.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/17 10:41 PM
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You've clearly spent a lot more time adding your thoughts to this forum than me. What's your motivation for all your posts and comments?
/r/TheRedPill31/03/17 09:30 PM
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Unbelievably limited thinking. Even there it matters because the bar itself is not a microcosm, the women there are experiencing downward pressure from older men in their daily lives that they could also fuck tonight. The necessity of game in today's world is largely a function of the ballooning of the OSR as a consequence of people living longer lives, looser morals, more divorce. It increases the competition for the limited pool of attractive reproductive age women.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/17 09:27 PM
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I'm beginning to think you guys are literally dumb as rocks.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/17 09:22 PM
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The OSR goes beyond far pickup technique. The OSR isn't even about sexual availability, you are conflating terms. There are women 45+ who are sexually available. It's a fertility ratio.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/17 09:20 PM
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The OSR SHAPES the sexual marketplace. In many ways, it IS the sexual marketplace. It's the battlefield, not the battle plan.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/17 09:18 PM
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I learned about this in university and I'm certain many of the Red Pill readers did too. Your responses here are embarrassingly naive, raging against elementary information. It doesn't exclude her from getting fucked if she isn't ovulating, but an understanding of the ratio can, for one, help a guy see how many women are likely undergoing ovulatory shift with heightened sex drive and preference and the reality of competition. The OSR is the likely reason for concealed ovulation (to enhance femal…
/r/TheRedPill31/03/17 09:02 PM
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Your summary of my position is not my position. Type operational sex ratio into google and you'll see its not something I invented. I'm blown away by your interpretation.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/17 08:46 PM
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Explaining ovulation shift was not the point of this post. Familiarizing the Red Pill crowd with the idea of the operational sex ratio was, and it exists in different frequency based on time frame. Coupled with concealed ovulation, the OSR makes the human mating market distinct. The implications, personal and societal, are too numerous to get into in a single post. Is the point of the Red Pill not to help guys know what the fuck is actually going on out there?
/r/TheRedPill31/03/17 08:35 PM
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I'm astounded. Women have different sexual preference when they ovulate, for one, and can only get pregnant at that time. This concept is absolutely worth considering and quantifying.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/17 08:22 PM
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It absolutely does not presuppose that.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/17 08:16 PM
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Eh, you gotta play these things by ear as they unfold. I only lose by saying nothing, in my view. Maybe I suggest we settle this outside like men, with a smirk, to remind him what a limp dick old man he is. Plenty of ways to get the upper hand.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/17 03:46 AM
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I already answered this. I win either way. That kind of ridiculous outburst from a man of retirement age would've resulted in even more stigma than he got.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/17 03:12 AM
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I really despise this term "white knighting" - just a pussified way of hamstering men not to stand up for themselves and the women in their presence. It's not that complicated, really; if you engage in conflict with other men and win (without making a fool of yourself in the process) then the females will want you more. If you lose, or make a fool of yourself, they will like you less. Women are just waiting at the finish line to see who wins the race. All Red Pillers should read up on the War Br…
/r/TheRedPill29/03/17 08:24 PM
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I run a consulting practice. The moral of the story is that people in my industry DON'T think this behavior is acceptable. This guy has now been served the memo.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/17 03:33 PM
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I agree actually. He might bat like .200 on this type of approach and just whiff the rest of the time (like I described with the women from the golf tournament). I don't think he ever considered he might get kicked out of a game. On second thought, .200 is way too generous, maybe .050
/r/TheRedPill29/03/17 03:11 PM
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The point of the post is to examine the deep logic. I also noted the same standards are applied to teenagers wanting to change their bodies whether or not they are involved in sports. HRT is allowable, steroids are not.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/17 12:33 PM
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No. My use of the word depart comes from the phrase "departing words of wisdom" with the implication being that I am humbly requesting the above commenter not to leave without leaving behind more of his wisdom.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/17 04:02 AM
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This is an excellent response. Red Pillers should take note of this. This commenter erased the individual from his social circle in the same way my friend erased the guy in my example. Once again, don't be that guy.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 09:28 PM
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Works every time, especially when they sense you are doing it out of respect for yourself, not as a way to get some pussy. Red Pillers should take note of the loss of status for the man who committed the initial disrespect and the elevation in status of this commenter, who thwarted it. Same dynamic in my story and several other comments.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 09:13 PM
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What exactly was over the top? 1.) I made the guy apologize, 2.) I informed my friend so he could decide if he wants to bring the guy to functions in the future. As it turns out, my friend decided he definitely does not want this guy around and then proceeded to find out this guy had been severing his relationships for years. There isn't a single thing I would do differently.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 06:02 PM
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He was pulling Johnny into his frame. Frame is not the same thing as composure. You could argue it was an ineffective or even barbaric method, but he was imposing his frame of masculine pride and assertiveness on Johnny instead of letting Johnny impose Johnny's frame of helplessness.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 05:45 PM
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Of course I want the benevolent leader, I also want a social circle where my date doesn't get groped. Did you even read my post? Yet frame is a neutral concept. Ruling with an iron fist is absolutely alpha, that doesn't necessarily make it morally right or even a competent approach. Alpha comes in many forms and it is not always desirable.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 05:39 PM
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I knew I was orchestrating his ostracism by calling my friend, grow up. Have you also considered the necessity of maintaining a formidable reputation among fellow businessmen? This is rhetorical, I don't expect a response.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 05:31 PM
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I answered this elsewhere in the comments. Good conversing with you, fellow Red Piller! Good luck out there
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 05:22 PM
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Obviously. No chance I would've hit him unless he insisted on touching her. Even then, a punch is a last resort after removing him and putting myself between them.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 05:20 PM
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There is no assault charge for stopping the groping of a woman.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 05:15 PM
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Absolutely. You're welcome for this dose of the Red Pill.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 05:14 PM
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He was right to show shame. Consequences could've been yet more severe. If he didn't stop when I told him not to touch her at the bar, for instance, maybe a punch in the face and a sexual assault charge. Prison is loaded with unapologetic guys.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 05:13 PM
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There is always risk in standing up for yourself. I wouldn't have given a fuck if they did side with him, actually. But as it turns out I've now done a big favor for my friend by exposing a man who was sabotaging him without him knowing. When you spot cringeworthy behavior, you can generally call it out with the repercussions going to the person who originated said behavior. That's not luck, it is probabilistic.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 05:04 PM
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The vast majority of my business comes from mixing business with pleasure. You'll find this to be true of most successful businessmen. Clients are maintained maybe 10% merit and 90% relationship.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 04:53 PM
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Anger is part of verbal sparring. Intense anger is quite an effective method, even though I didn't resort to it here.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 04:51 PM
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You are an absolute moron. Many women freeze up. Did you fail to see my description of her reaction? Body language communicates the same as words.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 04:49 PM
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I've been fucking her for quite a while. Imposing your will and preventing others from imposing theirs on you is the height of masculinity. His will was to embarrass me and take my plate, my will was to punish him for this. I did just fine.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 04:46 PM
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You have a distorted view of frame. I quite obviously maintained my frame. Too many people on here conflate the term frame with the term composure, or the idea of being unaffected. Frame implies controlling your reality and the tone of an interaction. A few extreme examples to illustrate my point: A General who executes an insubordinate is maintaining frame, a slaveholder who whips a slave is also maintaining frame, as is a nation that repels an invasion. Don Corleone was maintaining frame when …
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 04:43 PM
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Please depart more wisdom about social dynamics. I could also use your help with spelling and sentence structure.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 04:10 PM
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Being big and strong is a major advantage. I often hesitate to give other people advice on diffusing conflict because my situation is so different.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 03:45 PM
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You should take up slam poetry
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 03:36 PM
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We're the same size - I also get these outrageous little guys coming at me sometimes. I was at a resort last summer and some 125 pound hothead decides to start taking swings at me. I never lost my composure and he was removed. A bigger man would've caught a fist.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 03:28 PM
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I'm my own boss. I'd assert myself regardless. Outcome independence. Those who want respect, give respect. He didn't give me respect, so fuck him.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 02:34 PM
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"I think you're too drunk to be in public." "How about you mind your own fuckin business?" "Who should she be with, a (insult) like you?" "If you want to insert yourself in our evening, grab the bill instead."
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 02:02 PM
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You're an idiot. There's a reason the older guys in real life love me almost universally: because I'm a man in a generation of sissies.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 12:59 PM
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My frame is that I will not tolerate this behavior. Anger is often consistent with maintaining frame, like a person maintaining their position in a heated argument, or a country revving itself up for war in defense of its borders.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 12:54 PM
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Did you not notice the social proof offered by every other member of the group in addition to the confrontation here? Avoiding mingling your girl with your social circle can only mean you are self conscious about your standing and your ability to handle yourself.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 12:50 PM
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The older crowd that decided to ostracize this individual must be too young to understand also.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 12:45 PM
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Yes. We come here for advice on sexual strategy and tell each other to reach the top 20%. The behavior I outlined increased my SMV. For the other guy, his behavior decreased his SMV. That's the moral of the story.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 12:43 PM
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This is such a foolish comment, I don't even know where to begin. Would you cut someone some slack for punching you ineffectively because he just started boxing lessons? Of course not, he's still punching you. Don't apply your PUA technique to my date. I don't care if your technique is refined or unrefined.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 12:40 PM
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The only reason he touched her at all is because he's 30+ years older than me and knew I wouldn't escalate physically. If he was a "chad" he wouldn't have dared. The moment he put his hands on her, I would've put my hands on him. Rage is neither alpha nor beta. Alpha turns his rage outward, because he can, beta turns his rage inward, because he has to.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 12:38 PM
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There IS the chance of a fight, but it's better to be avoided. If he got handsy with her at the bar, for instance, I would've physically removed his hands, and justifiably. Who knows where it goes from there? You can assert yourself with a friend and give them the opportunity to make it right with you, by the way, or you can just walk away as you suggested. Nobody can decide for you whether you should walk away from a friendship.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 12:31 PM
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I would have asked him if he really wants to go down this road and then proceeded to sever his social standing exactly the way I did anyways. If you meant with respect to actually touching my plate again, I would've gotten physical with him (removing his hands, who knows if he escalates), and justifiably so.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 12:25 PM
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Your comparison is not even a proper analogy. Inability to acquire sex is more like living with a chronic condition, being unable to walk, being blind, being improperly clothed, hungry, or something else non fatal. Even if you cannot actually get laid, biology still provides a counter measure to spread your genes in the form of inclusive fitness - the reproductive success of siblings and other kin resulting in your own genetic legacy due to shared material. And yes, the desire to acquire sex is …
/r/TheRedPill27/03/17 11:40 PM
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Here's your rationale argument - freedom of choice in sexual relations is absolutely paramount for the maintenance of civilized society. Men who resort to violence to take women by force should have force met with force in the form of imprisonment (singular male) or obliteration (for a group of such males). At the individual level, taking pains to improve your eligibility as a partner and improving your game are the only suitable options. At a societal level, encouraging one man one woman marria…
/r/TheRedPill27/03/17 11:15 PM
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I only skimmed this, but a title like this?? Posts like these give people legitimate reason to demand the take down of Red Pill. Not getting laid is not the same as being raped. A male rape victim is the male version of a rape victim.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/17 06:22 PM
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He will never be more ready for the Red Pill. When is he supposed to learn, after it happens to him the second time?
/r/TheRedPill25/03/17 08:03 PM
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Obviously he doesn't sign up for it right away, but this is ridiculous. It's not different than saying you want to be an architect or live in Virginia or plant a garden. It shouldn't be some outrageous blurted statement nor should she go out of her way to make sure the information gets conveyed, I agree with that much.
/r/RedPillWomen24/03/17 11:55 AM
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Who the hell knows how life will shake out, but it's an easy vetting mechanism.
/r/RedPillWomen24/03/17 12:56 AM
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Agreed. It's not hard to share your general vision for your life - where you want to live, do you want to be married, have children, switch careers, etc. These aren't topics that need to be held close to the vest.
/r/RedPillWomen24/03/17 12:54 AM
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It is absolutely better not to invest months dating someone who was incompatible with you from day one. I don't see the slightest problem with telling someone early on that you want to be a housewife - if they don't like it you can move on. A woman doesn't have an endless amount of time when she is fertile - months aren't a big deal to me, who could father a child even in old age, but it's major wasted time for a woman. Talking about general career and life aspirations is pretty effortless and c…
/r/RedPillWomen24/03/17 12:52 AM
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Yes. This is the same thing I use as a man to weed out women who are too liberal or would make terrible homemakers - I simply tell them that I ideally want five kids and see how they respond.
/r/RedPillWomen23/03/17 10:48 PM
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This is incorrect. You shouldn't have to devote months of your life to dating someone only to then find out their vision of the future is incompatible with your own.
/r/RedPillWomen23/03/17 10:44 PM
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That's right, and it also makes you a better athlete too. Yet it is the knowledge that it comes from a false source that results in disapproval. In 2017, you get kicked off the team for taking steroids, you get an award for throwing on a dress, the official response is not debatable, these are the facts on the ground. Only the reasons why society would adopt such a perverse double standard is up for debate - and I suggest it is an offshoot of the feminine imperative.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/17 04:05 AM
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I used Bonds as emblematic of societal disapproval of steroid use in contrast to societal approval of taking opposite sexual hormones. Commenting on prevailing social trends as it relates to phenotypic sexual display in the male, not your personal endorsement of steroids.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/17 03:44 AM
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This is an excellent analogy. The odds of having a successful business go up quite a bit with the proper precautions though - certain franchises such as McDonalds have almost no rate of failure. The same concept applies to marriage and selecting a partner - go with the ancient tried and true wisdom of vetting your wife, distinct sex roles, shared understanding of what marriage means, etc.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/17 01:48 AM
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It would also therefore follow that encouraging her to scream is a major turn on to women. You are essentially telling her - "it doesn't matter who hears you, nobody is strong enough to supplant me"
/r/TheRedPill22/03/17 06:23 PM
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Woah! You may be a unicorn
/r/RedPillWomen22/03/17 02:18 AM
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I would. What is wrong with fool? It's mild jocular disrespect, barely different from "bro". The characterization of "Bitchy", however, would never be tolerated in a philosophical discussion among men.
/r/TheRedPill22/03/17 01:40 AM
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Agreed women are manipulative bitches. Your point about sperm scooping was also true. No Harem Guarding comment was not
/r/TheRedPill22/03/17 01:16 AM
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You're a fool. Harems have been well documented throughout recorded history and been guarded with intensive measures such as utilizing eunuchs, rings of fire, etc. They've been doubly documented through genetic analysis that demonstrates the toutsize contributions to the gene pool from males at certain times and places in history - Ghengis Khan being the most well known example. A different game because of writing and property? No, the admixture counts just the same. Even if we restrict our ackn…
/r/TheRedPill22/03/17 01:12 AM
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She screams as a signal to other men - yes. But more likely this is because it gives her assurance she is fucking a dominant man because ancestrally, if he wasn't the dominant man, then other men would come remove him and fuck her instead.
/r/TheRedPill22/03/17 12:46 AM
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UPDATE - a few days later this same chick posts a horrific article about a young teen girl being forced into marriage with a much older man in the Mid East. How civilized her cuckholdry endorsement now looks by comparison. Taking something everyone agrees is awful and presenting a manifestation of dual hypergamy as the only other option to prevent such oppression of women. Watch that hamster wheel spin, holy fuck.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/17 08:27 PM
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The trait OP described is natural. It may be reinforced by culture but culture itself emanates from human nature. When you see a trait appear in literally every culture in the history of the world, even those separated by distance and time with no awareness of each other, the trait is almost certainly biologically driven. Such is the case with disgust towards wifing a ho.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/17 03:41 AM
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Jewish girls refrain from being promiscuous?? What world are you living on?
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 12:41 PM
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It may very well be zero, every girl was a virgin once
/r/TheRedPill20/03/17 12:00 PM
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Hahaha. . . keep hamstering your way to that conclusion. Your posts betray your pretense of objectivity. Besides, humans evolved at a time when life expectancy was shorter and there was no state to administer divorce. Pair bonding is largely a function of sexual imprinting. Imprinting in many species is dependent on early encounters and this doesn't just apply to sex.
/r/TheRedPill20/03/17 04:32 AM
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This sub is about sexual strategy generally, but I can see from reading your other comments that you are getting philosophical about it. Some of the methods many societies have enacted to limit or satisfy women's hypergamy include: elevating men above the social status of women (so ANY man of a woman's own social strata is therefore of higher status, and satisfactory to her hypergamous instinct), punishing marital infidelity severely, and sometimes permitting polygamous marriage. To satisfy men'…
/r/TheRedPill20/03/17 01:44 AM
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What the fuck are you talking about? You don't need 100% scientific proof to inform decisions you make in your life. If the evidence were, for instance, 70% indicative that whoring destroys pair bonding, you don't wife a whore. You don't get to live twice and have a do over, so you go with the probabilistic choice. Shark attack is a terrible analogy.
/r/TheRedPill20/03/17 12:42 AM
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Holy F, I couldn't make it up through myself
/r/TheRedPill19/03/17 11:55 PM
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My point of the post was that this 30 year old woman shared it on Facebook to the applause of many of our female peers. The conclusion is the same even if it is complete fiction - open hypergamy moving to the next level of societal (or at least female) acceptance.
/r/TheRedPill19/03/17 10:25 PM
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Confidence is typically an honest signal of status but not always. The low status organism that projects a false confidence gets beaten, ostracized or even killed for this behavior in most species. But at the risk of offending some people, it is still better to fake it until you make it. It's not possible for everyone you meet to assess where you are in the social strata anyways, especially in today's mobile society.
/r/TheRedPill19/03/17 08:51 PM
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This shit is so mind blowing. Most men in history would go to war to prevent this humiliation.
/r/TheRedPill19/03/17 08:43 PM
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I'd like to say her phd is a joke but I'm certain she recognizes this whole idea is a bad deal for the husband. Since she isn't gonna lock down her #1 choice, she may just be Machiavellian enough to put this into practice for herself. I'll update Red Pill if she messages me in a few years
/r/TheRedPill19/03/17 08:07 PM
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Haha, Tyrone is the black Chad
/r/TheRedPill19/03/17 06:00 PM
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It is exactly this regular pulling of guys that indicates this woman is failing in her sexual strategy. If you perceive it as success it is only because the mirror result for a man actually would be success. It's not at all hard for a woman to "pull" a man who is a 9 or 10. She can do this even if she is a 5 or 6 and makes it super convenient for him. A woman's success is in holding the high value man, which requires more than what you outlined.
/r/TheRedPill19/03/17 04:43 AM
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I'm already aware of proximate cause, this post was about speculating on ultimate cause, not searching for advice which is what I've understood asktrp to be
/r/TheRedPill17/03/17 05:10 PM
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This reinforces the idea that if you do want marriage, go for the virgin
/r/TheRedPill17/03/17 01:53 PM
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I respect you immediately for the name Diomedes - better than Achilles IMO
/r/TheRedPill17/03/17 02:36 AM
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Plus a whole lot of luck. You'll never be regarded as the world's greatest general, for instance, if you come of age during peacetime.
/r/TheRedPill15/03/17 08:22 PM
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Spot on with the macro trends. However, I've noticed a powerful counter current anecdotally in my own wider social circle - the opposition to Hillary and the feminine imperative on the part of mothers (particularly white mothers) with SONS. Exit polling obviously provides some indirect evidence for this phenomenon in the form of married vs unmarried women's voting trends and older women vs younger. When a woman can no longer reproduce, and her genetic material is carried by males, it is natural …
/r/TheRedPill09/03/17 01:36 AM
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There is no doubt that women get sexually abused, harassed, and assaulted. What is absolutely incomprehensible to me is that so many women have deluded themselves into thinking that men are rooting this behavior on, or willfully turning a blind eye. Even in prison, child molesters and rapists are regarded as the lowest of the low.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/17 01:11 AM
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Absolutely valid point. When I see guys in their 20's or 30's at a bar watching a football game while wearing the replica jersey of another man their same age, I have to hold back the vomit in my throat. Many attractive women I know laugh at this and tell me how pathetically childish it is (especially since they have or aspire to fuck athletes themselves). I've taken dates to sporting events but only for the theatre of it, and usually to company seats which carry their own preselection value bec…
/r/TheRedPill09/03/17 01:04 AM
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99% sure this is a troll post. Maybe a self deprecating Indian or an actual racist jerking off to the idea of defaming Indian guys on TRP
/r/TheRedPill09/03/17 12:58 AM
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No, I am aware of survivorship bias. It is not the same as the test of time. Survivorship bias implies fixing value to survivors that arrived there randomly. Evaluation based on the test of time recognizes that, in many cases, the survival is due to inherent robustness, even if the exact characteristics that make the thing robust are not understood by the observer.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 12:04 AM
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This isn't MY theory. Yet it applies to literally everything - military structure, political organization, family formation, what to avoid eat, what to avoid eating, I could go on and on. The older practice WHICH HAS SURVIVED (NOT the ones that died) is more probabilistically robust than any given novel practice, because it withstood the various tests of time. Who is more likely to be in business in five years, the business that has been around for twenty years or the business that started last …
/r/TheRedPill07/03/17 10:44 PM
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It is logically sound. This concept applies in a whole host of realms. Without any knowledge of what makes a building structurally sound, for instance, you can typically predict how long it will stand. Which is more likely to be here in 100 years - a house that is 75 years old, or the pyramids which are thousands of years old? Of course there are underlying physical reasons why but you do not need to know them to make the probabilistic determination. All you need to know is the length of time it…
/r/TheRedPill07/03/17 07:17 PM
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I deleted this post for now in the interest of not subtracting from the Red Pill thread. I should've expected to encounter this lack of understanding as to the mathematical rigor of the test of time (in my view, the sources to provide the most detail on this can be found in "Antifragile" and other works by Nassim Taleb, which I encourage you to read if you have the time and interest). The key idea is probability. Yes, ANY human endeavor or behavior that has lasted sufficiently long is more LIKEL…
/r/TheRedPill06/03/17 03:24 PM
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Thank you, Red Pill friend! This thing is incredibly useful
/r/TheRedPill04/03/17 07:52 PM
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You could've punched him in the face for slapping her ass, honestly. What's he gonna do? Call the police? She can press him for sexual assault
/r/TheRedPill04/03/17 12:41 AM
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OP - You SHOULD broadcast it. Your virginity is a major asset, and really, you don't even need a long courtship where the man has to go without sex. What is the benefit of a prolonged courtship when it results in 50% chance of divorce at the end of the day? Consider the example of arranged marriage (which I am NOT promoting, just looking at the outcomes factually. I am an American myself and will choose my own spouse). The most stable marriages are arranged marriages - not just less risk of divo…
/r/RedPillWomen02/03/17 09:23 PM
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It has true that 95% of guys are fine with marrying a woman who isn't a virgin, myself included. However, most would prefer a virgin. It remains a very positive attribute, this is true of every society in existence today, and that ever existed in history.
/r/RedPillWomen02/03/17 09:05 PM
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I already acknowledged the cases where they are using you. Good suggestion though. Yes, it establishes commitment on her part, however small.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/17 11:19 PM
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Would you ladies speak to the reality of female promiscuity/restraint? On the Red Pill thread there is an almost universal feeling that any attractive young woman will be having sex with someone every weekend, given her abundance of options. On one hand I cannot believe this is true, on the other I recognize that deception is rampant and this idea might approximate the truth in 2017.
/r/RedPillWomen01/03/17 10:59 PM
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Yes, Presuasion is fantastic and in many ways better than Influence, most especially if you have already internalized Influence.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/17 10:04 PM
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"The Folly of Fools - The Logic of Deceit and Self Deception in Human Life", by acclaimed sociobiologist Robert Trivers. You will not be disappointed.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/17 09:56 PM
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Yes, Influence is fantastic. The law of reciprocation in particular is powerful in business and in life. This is the reason many women will want to split the bill with a man they don't intend to see again - so they don't feel obligated to him. I understand the dumbass method of buying girls drinks is frowned on by Red Pill, but the more suave method (particularly in a conventional date) ignites the law of reciprocation; it is a basic fact of psychology. Everything is situational.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/17 09:54 PM
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I can't stand this PMS bullshit from women where she thinks she can blame bad behavior on the hormonal cocktail overtaking her brain. For a man, every day of his life from the time he hits puberty he needs to civilize his behavior despite raging testosterone giving him intense aggressive and sexual urges, constantly. This PMS shit is really no excuse.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/17 01:43 PM
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Mick Jagger just had a child with a 29 year old and he is in his 70's. Billy Joel and Mel Gibson aren't quite his age yet but similarly with young women. Trump has 24 years on Melania and he is 70. In the past, stratospheric SMV had the same effect - President John Tyler, born in 1790, has living grandchildren because he had a child so late in life and then that child did the same thing (his grandkids are quite old themselves today).
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 05:26 PM
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"Family court is kidnapping and extortion" - protest sign shown in the film
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 03:31 AM
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Along with false rape accusations, this is right up there as the best example of the true underlying motive of the feminine imperative as identified by Rollo Tomassi - to maximally optimize female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality (into the confines set by women for their benefit).
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 10:51 PM
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You're right. When you read of strong historical figures or even Red Pill literary figures like Vito Corleone, aka The Godfather, you'll notice a few criteria that made them indisputably head of a strong household and invulnerable to their wives: 1.) They were lethal 2.) Their assets were either unknowable or legally uncontrollable by their wives 3.) Inheritance passed from father to son, not husband to wife or ex wife A modern man cannot reasonably expect to replicate this and therefore shouldn…
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 06:15 PM
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It is true that many men won't be able to reproduce with the woman they prefer sans ring and wedding. However, with sufficient SMV and financial resources you can bypass this predicament if you want kids with her. For instance, it is my understanding that Eddie Murphy maintains something like 10 separate households with ten baby mamas.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 05:52 PM
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Absolutely. It's important to recognize that marriage predated the state by many thousands of years. A natural marriage doesn't involve a license from city hall for her to extort you - it's just a man and a woman doing what's necessary to build a life and raise the children.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 03:15 AM
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You're right, leaning no marriage myself.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 12:36 AM
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I don't expect universal acknowledgment, but there will come a point where anyone with half a brain will be able to see a huge cohort of unmarried and/or childless middle aged women and understand how they got to be that way. Also, vertical transmission of their lifestyle to children will be minimal because they had so few.
/r/TheRedPill24/02/17 10:22 PM
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Absolutely. It's the only way to have any chance at the truth
/r/TheRedPill22/02/17 03:11 PM
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I used to fuck this girl in college who came from a Vietnamese catholic family who picked her up on Sunday's to go to church. She was a notorious slut (fucked tons of guys, got Eiffel towered, etc). One day I was over her place and her dad came over an hour early to pick her up. She frantically yelled at me to get below the windowsill so he wouldn't see me and then blurted out that her family and church thought she was a virgin. Virgin??? She fucked at least 8 guys I knew, and we didn't even kno…
/r/TheRedPill22/02/17 02:43 PM
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Bought Juvenal's Sixteen Satires and started with #6 at your suggestion here. My God I am blown away, and that doesn't happen often. I knew human nature was more or less constant through the ages, but I had always kinda suspected our era was producing a level of universal hedonism not yet seen due to birth control, etc. Not so. I know the writing is intentionally dramatic and humorous, but nonetheless - WOW, what a blast of truth from 2,000 years ago
/r/TheRedPill22/02/17 03:00 AM
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Yes, I agree. You also accept that you might have come across an impulsive meathead who actually wants to start a bar fight, in the same way you accept the risk of a car accident when you get in your car. Too many guys on here assume, for no reason, that my agenda is to encourage a bottle over the poacher's head the moment he looks at your girl.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/17 11:46 PM
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Also a good tactic, might make him seethe, and give yourself a chuckle
/r/TheRedPill18/02/17 11:31 PM
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These are also potentially effective tactics. I agree that violence is a last resort. In all but the most extreme instances, it should only be used if he's already become violent or it's imminent and unavoidable.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/17 11:24 PM
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A lot of guys provided good suggestions in the comments. The important thing is not to allow yourself to be boxed out by the other man. It's important in all but the most extreme instances not to become physically aggressive with the other man first, but there's always the possibility some meathead will resort to physical force, in which case it is my view (shared by many here) that your own counter force is justified. In fact, what kind of a coward leaves a woman to a man who was willing to hur…
/r/TheRedPill18/02/17 11:11 PM
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And all this gives rise to perhaps the bitterest aspect of the Red Pill to swallow - which is the legitimacy of assortative mating. Every man wants to maximize the quality of partner he gets but should beware that if he is objectively weaker mentally/physically than other men, maintaining frame may be insufficient to hold her or prevent her cheating. That's what I suspect ignites a defensive response in so many commenters - they know in their hearts they are weak.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/17 08:50 PM
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If the competition between men were not so often brutal, many of the traits women find attractive in men simply wouldn't be attractive. She needs her son to inherit the strength of the father so he can outcompete men in the next generation.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/17 08:27 PM
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There doesn't need to be a different word for it. The definition accepted by the field of evolutionary psychology, which I noted in my original post, includes any action done to "prevent the encroachment of intrasexual rivals." It's this Red Pill subreddit that improperly abbreviates the concept of Mate Guarding.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/17 06:06 PM
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Agreed. I made a post about the different types of Mate Guarding. Supplication and appeasement are the beta actions that TRP lumps into the overall concept of Mate Guarding. These actions are ineffective, stupid, and weak. Achilles isn't supplicating to or appeasing anyone, he is demonstrating territoriality, which is the MOST alpha trait. Disputing this is like disputing the periodic table or asserting the earth is flat. You aren't actually the alpha if you can't stand up to a challenge, you ar…
/r/TheRedPill18/02/17 05:54 PM
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There are too many counter examples in history and literature of men directly competing with other men for women, some honorable and some not. Or maybe even, like Aeneas, wage war to steal another man's fiancé haha. Good conversing with you, my friend
/r/TheRedPill18/02/17 02:15 PM
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I never once said to threaten violence, I said to carry yourself with backbone and welcome the small risk in lieu of supplication. This thread has to come to an end, pleasure conversing with you fellow Red Piller.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/17 02:09 PM
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I will add though, that part of the effect here is that my father is a domineering man. So he can send the drink and smile with the subtext of "you know I'm more of a man than you and will win if this becomes a fight." The other guy's insecurity is therefore twofold - 1.) He's afraid of losing his girl, 2.) He's afraid of losing face or getting hurt if it escalates
/r/TheRedPill18/02/17 03:39 AM
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And my purpose, which would be clear to anyone with even an elementary understanding of logic, was 1.) To assert that it's acceptable not to fuck a woman on night one and yet marry her, and 2.) To disabuse you of the notion that men don't compete directly over women, when they most certainly do. It had nothing to do with proclaiming heroism or making my father seem poetic. For you to form this conclusion is laughable. By the way, you might as well have read The Iliad in Martian since you utterly…
/r/TheRedPill18/02/17 12:45 AM
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Thank you for your comments. Somehow you haven't internalized that men compete directly over women. Perhaps a course in evolutionary biology, or maybe reading the news might help.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/17 12:35 AM
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Can't agree enough. This is the core of stoicism. Outcome independence. This is the reason we hold people like MLK Jr. in high regard - he asserted his right to be a man in society DESPITE the consequences.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 09:59 PM
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1.) You materialized this notion that she went home drunk with him in your own mind. 2.) The history of all conflict and war disproves what you've said. When their is a distinction between how different men view their place in a hierarchy, how is this resolved? I am not a war monger, but in true Red Pill fashion I can recognize it for what it is - acquisition of territory, resources, status, AND women. And yes, it's better if conflict can be avoided. The only surefire way? In the words of Ronald…
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 09:37 PM
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She was a 10/10 approaching the peak of her SMV. She produced stellar children and a great home for my father so he could focus his attention on building his business. She was worth outcompeting another man for, you're an idiot
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 08:39 PM
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I included my mother specifically to reinforce AWALT, you utter fool
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 07:33 PM
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Looks like we are in agreement, I don't know what the hell you're railing against. Did I once say to hit the other guy first?
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 04:53 PM
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And yes, AWALT, otherwise I wouldn't have used my own mother as a point for generalization. I've swallowed the pill
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 04:43 PM
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It actually is when it involves supplicating to another man (consequently, in this moment he is higher than you in the male hierarchy), but nobody is a true alpha in modern life because we make trade offs to achieve civil society. I'm not going out of my way to go to jail either, but prison is full of alphas, can't deny it
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 04:26 PM
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I can appreciate your perspective on this, although mine differs
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 04:10 PM
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Yea, I know. Even in the original post I differentiated between the upscale bar and the frat house
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 03:50 PM
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I agree with what you're saying here and I'm surprised you think I wouldn't. Never did I advocate escalating to violence unnecessarily, I advocated carrying yourself with pride and backbone and accepting the risk. The only way to totally avoid risk is pure supplication
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 03:34 PM
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Yes, my friend. A lot of respect for BJJ. My background is wrestling and I was a heavyweight so this shit usually doesn't even come my way. I try not to be judgmental of the guys who can't diffuse with just presence alone, but life requires some backbone
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 03:15 PM
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What makes you the prize? Your ability to dominate other men socially, financially, physically. If you can't do these things? You're not really the prize, you're just pretending. I never advocated reckless fighting, by the way, just backbone (and the small risk of being attacked for it, self dense always being permissible)
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 03:07 PM
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Agreed. If she knows she is just a plate, she wants you to turn a blind eye when she's interested in other men. If it's an LTR or moving that way, she'll be appalled
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 03:03 PM
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Now there's a bitch NOT worth fighting over
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 03:00 PM
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It literally blows my mind that people don't see this and I considered leaving this forum over the blatant stupidity
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 02:11 PM
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You're right, all guys should
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 02:07 PM
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Thank you for your comment. Your example still meets my major stipulation that "the beta expects to lose direct conflict." In your case, you fear the loss is handed to you from the state. I recognize there is cost/benefit to everything
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 02:06 PM
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Haha, I actually like this comment
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 01:58 PM
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Yes, Michael is superior overall, I agree. I meant to illustrate the type of man sending the drinks to my mom had a formidable, masculine and charismatic demeanor, more like Santino
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 05:04 AM
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Of course, in my dad's example the drinks wouldn't have kept coming if it wasn't obvious the guy was rattled.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 04:53 AM
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My mother today is an older, dignified woman still married to the same man. Back then she was 95% of everything a man could want in a wife and mother - and she delivered. Certainly not an artsy freak
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 04:43 AM
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Thank you for your comment. I didn't hastily jump to this conclusion. Literally the entirety of human history is on the side of my perspective. Part of the analogy of swallowing the Red Pill is to recognize that there are certain instinctual elements to human interaction that remain despite feminized cultural conditioning of the last 60 years. Mate Guarding in the limited scope I described it is sound. In my view, the post on TRP focus too much on appearances despite the stated focus of reality.…
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 03:40 AM
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My father is not a mobster but go watch a YouTube video of Tony Soprano or Santino Corleone and you will understand the kind of persona he projected - not about resources directly. It's an instance of cutting through the bullshit posturing to force a confirmation of male hierarchy
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 02:39 AM
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"Civilization is sterilization" it betatizes. With respect to my dad? Picture a somewhat more reflective Santino Corleone and you are picturing my father. What read flag for my mother? A beautiful young woman dancing for a major city balet, who, like most women, sought in a man a protector and provider?
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 01:57 AM
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A woman is selecting for a man with the power to control his surroundings
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 01:13 AM
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And therefore the shackles of society and career have made you a beta. I don't say this with derision, it just IS. Betatized by responsibility
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 01:05 AM
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Interesting tactic, drinking them yourself, preferably in his view or looking right at him. I'm glad to see you agree one has to do SOMETHING
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 12:52 AM
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What you just described is exactly what's meant by having your head on a swivel. Also, you're playing with fire even if you haven't been burnt yet
/r/TheRedPill16/02/17 06:03 PM
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You shouldn't have to employ some secret legal knowledge to avoid being hurt by the law when you yourself are the victim. Also, you are clearly a terrible, delusional lawyer.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/17 02:59 PM
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Same experience here. Blocked her blow and it made my finger bleed. Cussed her out as I ran water over it. A deranged, sinister look took hold of her face and she threatened to call the police if the neighbors heard me - always one for appearances. Turned off the water, disregarded the bandaids and walked right out the door. I knew in that moment my entire future was in that bitch's hands - how utterly fucked up
/r/TheRedPill15/02/17 09:28 PM
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You're absolutely right. How do some of the fools on TRP reconcile such obvious mate guarding behavior from Achilles (and in fact the whole Trojan War over Helen) with the advice on here not to mate guard? These ancient heroes have been held up since time immemorial as the most alpha men imaginable. Mate Guarding behavior properly understood (NOT supplication) is clearly an example of alpha dominance. It's a matter of definition and I'll devote a post to this in the coming weeks.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/17 04:42 PM
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So? If he has money to spare, what is the issue? A lot of TRP conveniently forgets that women are most attracted to the best combination of fucks/bucks. Please explain.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/17 01:24 PM
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My comment was meant for Indian-American guys. Does this still apply?
/r/TheRedPill15/02/17 01:14 PM
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Are you out of your mind??? Gentlemen, come to your senses. You Indian guys have been dealt the absolute best hand. You can enjoy American hedonism for as long as you want, knowing all the while that your endgame is guaranteed by a culture and community that will deliver you a virtuous virginal wife when you are ready, even if from overseas. Us white guys do not have the pot of gold waiting at the end of the rainbow, just a painstaking search for a needle in a haystack that somehow avoided the c…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/17 05:21 AM
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Move to Boston. We disavowed London hundreds of years ago. Plenty of iconic films are made here and tens of thousands of university girls will appreciate your British wit and charm like a gift from the gods
/r/TheRedPill15/02/17 05:05 AM
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You Indian guys can enjoy hedonistic American culture with the guaranteed failsafe of going back to India for a virtuous, virginal wife. You hit the jackpot
/r/TheRedPill15/02/17 04:07 AM
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In my view, The Aeneid provides the most iconic example of all time of what it means to be a man
/r/TheRedPill14/02/17 09:51 PM
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Haha yes, and this was from 2 A.D. Human nature runs deep
/r/TheRedPill14/02/17 09:01 PM
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Caesar Augustus did a good job bringing conservatism and virtue back into society with his marital reform laws and criminalization of adultery. He was forced to apply it to his own daughter, though. You win some, you lose some.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/17 05:22 PM
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Nice sentence structure, spelling, capitalization and punctuation.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/17 04:31 PM
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Haha. Certainly not HER mother! My god, who could be such a fool?? Your own mother, one would hope though
/r/TheRedPill14/02/17 12:21 PM
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Fascinating. Of course, this logic is what led to many sultans and emperors using eunuchs to guard their harems. For the poorer (or just less brutal), the age old tactic of a young wife coming to live with the husband's people, to be under the watchful eye of his female relatives
/r/TheRedPill14/02/17 11:43 AM
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I said raising a niece or nephew is 1/2 as impactful to your genetic legacy as raising your own child. You share 50% of your child's genes, and also 50% with a sibling. When your sister has a child you share 25% with the child - one half the value of your own kid. If your sister has four kids, it is the same as you having two.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/17 08:11 PM
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It was his house? You've gotta leave. No reason you can't cuss him out though. If he attacks you, you're always justified in hitting back
/r/TheRedPill13/02/17 04:35 PM
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I would be overjoyed if one of these women put her foot down and said "no way". After all the bullshit I've been through, it wouldn't be definitive proof that she's a woman worth committing to, but a major signal nonetheless.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/17 03:59 PM
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No. Cuckholdry only applies to unrelated offspring. Inclusive fitness wasn't "invented" by anyone, it is foundational to biology. It's how an entire ant colony can pass on their genes without each ant needing to reproduce. Raising a niece or nephew is 1/2 as impactful to your genetic legacy as your own kids.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/17 03:49 PM
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You'll get there, my friend. I remain a work in progress too, conditioned to battle through the bullshit every week to better myself
/r/TheRedPill13/02/17 05:46 AM
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Raising a niece or nephew is not cuckholdry, haha. It actually promotes inclusive fitness and is a sound evolutionary strategy - read up on it. I still prefer a family of my own someday, but I devote attention and resources to extended kin
/r/TheRedPill13/02/17 03:29 AM
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I don't hate women. In fact, I love some of them (my mother and sister) immensely. I said I was disgusted and angered by seeing women's true nature in respect to their romantic/sexual involvement with men. Duplicity, deceit, and manipulation are rampant, and it's taken years of pain to bring this into full view. I said in one of the comments here that I still regard ideal state monogamy as most preferable. I'm not confident I can find it in this culture though, and I'll expand more in posts to c…
/r/TheRedPill13/02/17 02:10 AM
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The central problem I see is that this is a completely falsified environment. It's not natural for young adults to be physically segregated from the rest of the population for years. Young adults integrating in society at large, as was the case for almost all of history, prevents many ridiculous world views from festering
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 11:41 PM
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Not the place for discussing my business, haha. I own a consulting practice, that's enough
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 07:13 PM
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Not the place for it, but I wish you the best. There are a lot of resources out there and I can't do justice to my experience here. Good luck!
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 07:07 PM
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Fickleness, opportunism, disloyalty, etc. My previous relationship turned from sunshine to horror after the first few years, for one, and I'll devote a post to this at some point. For another, now that I've dated a lot of women at this stage of life, I find the level of baggage and/or outrageous world views these women carry is not worthy of motherhood. One girl told me with some pride how she used to go to the sex club and get fucked by multiple random men in the same night (indistinguishable f…
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 07:06 PM
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Thank you for your comment, but I've never agreed with the wolf pack analogy. For one thing, only the alpha male and alpha female in a Wolfpack mate, whereas in primates most members of the troop mate. Second, in a Wolfpack the alpha in both sexes has to regularly beat the shit out of subordinates to keep them from mating - oftentimes leading to the alpha being usurped or the subordinate running away. Alpha dominance in wolves is maintained through violence - primates too actually, but this is b…
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 06:00 PM
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Why should you care about any characteristic at all? Why should it matter if she's a bitch, or obese, or unreliable? Her behavior and her body satisfy our INSTINCT. Territoriality is instinctual - if you have to ask then you probably don't posses this trait. Live your life and maximize your happiness within your own frame, fellow Red Piller!
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 05:29 PM
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There was no cheating, but there was a tremendous amount of disrespect. Another post, another time
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 05:24 PM
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I only take issue to your beta characterization. Your approach is fine, but mine certainly is not beta
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 05:23 PM
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I've been doing this less than a year, read Rationale Male. Taking a job in sales or starting your own business will help you control your time and force you to socialize. Other guys can provide more seasoned advice than me.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 04:53 PM
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No, it's alpha as fuck. Strange you mention Hugh Hefner - you ought to read up on the rules he maintained in the playboy mansion for decades. One of his girlfriends needed special permission for her BROTHER to stay over. Read a little history too. What constitutes the alpha is that other men cannot fuck his women. A feudal peasant can fuck peasant women but NOT noble women, the feudal lord can fuck peasant women OR noble women. Territoriality is indisputably alpha.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 04:38 PM
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Except they giggle. A woman wants a man to want to possess her.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 04:30 PM
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These are largely educated, professional women who don't even believe in hell. The way I say it with my sense of humor conveys a single message - you're gonna conform to my frame. And if she doesn't? I truly don't give a fuck. And why is it weird? Is it weird to onboard a client with a contract excluding my competitors? The client knows I have other clients too, these are simply the rules of engagement with ME
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 04:16 PM
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In my work, I make a lot of phone calls and hold meetings every day, all over the metro area and sometimes out of town. Integrating social contact with women is seamless.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 04:07 PM
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No, combined with the fact that I was about to get married, it makes them think I'm a monogamist at heart who is blowing off some steam after having his heart broken. I'm certain this contributes to their high effort and agreeableness in trying to lock me down
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 03:14 PM
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"getting the girls I wanted still seemed fairly difficult" - in part because I didn't have a lot of resources to spare, and also because I thought it meant I would have to open up my tortured little world
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 02:58 PM
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I was dealing with a lot of head trash at the time with illness in my family, money being tight, and also having several long term girlfriends (which I allude to) that kept me from fucking around and brought me some security. After college I started a business which brought a whirlwind of anxiety.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 02:51 PM
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Yes, 4 plates is possible. I'm on tinder, bumble, a few sites, and I work in sales meeting people every day. The only issue really is time and logistics. But I was the most astounded to find you can actually live like this without being dishonest
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 02:41 PM
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No. Mustering the backbone to do it was miraculous, given why white knighting behavior throughout the relationship. It wasn't some glorious thing either. I experienced a level of heartbreak that was pretty much unbearable, killing the relationship (and I guess my inner beta too). Guys here who've had a broken heart know what I mean.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 02:34 PM
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I state it with amusement. But I am fairly serious, I really am putting my foot down and if I find she fucks another guy I'm not going to live with the disgust, I will just next her. It's her job to walk if some aspect of my behavior is unappealing to her
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 07:53 AM
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And no, I still regard ideal state monogamy as most preferable. I've simply acclimated to the reality of the sexual market I live in.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 07:50 AM
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She's free to stop seeing me for any reason whatsoever. I'm up front about seeing other women, if she doesn't like it she can stop seeing me and I encourage her to do so.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 07:46 AM
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Yes and naturalists once thought they were the same species, and continuous effort needs to be made never to inadvertently introduce chimp groups to bonobo groups because the outcome is obvious - chimps will dominate or even massacre the bonobos.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 10:51 PM
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Hahaha, "I'm heterosexual but homosocial" - I'll fuck you but prefer to hang with my bros
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 04:50 PM
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Then we are in disagreement. It's evidence of an untrustworthy associate, even if it demonstrates impressive game. Also, the negative is far more impactful than the positive. A few guys around the office thinking I am the man is not as important as one guy secretly phoning in a regulatory audit to drive me out of business because he's afraid I'll fuck his wife. Seen it done.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 09:00 PM
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You're right, lower risk in your approach, but that's why I specifically mentioned expected value as opposed to likelihood. The fact that you haven't yet met any consequences does not mean there isn't a catastrophic consequence to be had, even if the likelihood is low. In your approach, perhaps low enough not to care.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 01:37 PM
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So what exactly are you disagreeing with? I didn't mention anything advocating lack of charisma. I specifically said it is foolhardy to sleep with women who have boyfriends or husbands
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 07:25 AM
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After years of white knighting and bending over backwards for the ungrateful bitch who I once thought was the love of my life, I regrew my backbone and called off my wedding last spring, four weeks in advance. Best decision I've ever made, discovered The Red Pill shortly after. I may yet get married at some point in the future but only ON MY TERMS
/r/TheRedPill08/02/17 03:23 AM
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I am in disbelief that girls don't see this. I guess society has taught them all that an older man / younger woman relationship is inherently exploitative.
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