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| 4 | I just really prefer being alone - and it's an issueIf that is the case, then it is indeed a problem. But I didn't read the original post as his having a desire for an intimate relationship. My understanding was that he wanted neither but felt as if he had to force himself to go out. Perhaps the original poster could clarify this one. | /r/seduction | 05/01/14 08:40 PM |
| 2 | I just really prefer being alone - and it's an issueThe issue I've always had when comparing this issue to the gym is that you have to go to the gym, but you don't have to meet women. Going to the gym is required as a condition for a long and healthy life. Even the President works out every day. Without your health, you can't accomplish anything in any area of life, and you can't do anything if you are dead. From a moral standpoint, it is necessary to work out because if you don't, you are being a drain on society by using up healthcare resources… | /r/seduction | 05/01/14 04:28 PM |
| 21 | I just really prefer being alone - and it's an issueThose terms are, yet again, labels. Why do we label people "hermits?" It's just a negative way to make fun of introverts who prefer to spend time alone. Why do you or I care about people who choose to move to Alaska, buy a cabin 400 miles from the nearest dwelling, and live on subsistence hunting? It's what those people want to do. It is obscenely arrogant for us to tell them what makes them happy, or for us to say that our way of life is better than theirs. As long as a person is not causing a … | /r/seduction | 05/01/14 04:02 PM |
| 3 | Facebook- Social proof or let it be a mystery...I closed my facebook account a while ago because I got a new job where social media profiles were not advised. Later, I opened it back up with very minimal information, just so that people could contact me if they didn't know my E-Mail address. I found that it's very liberating to not have to deal with facebook. It is possible to waste a huge amount of time that could be better spent doing other things, whether they have to do with women or not. While I am not interested in a relationship, I hav… | /r/seduction | 05/01/14 03:03 PM |
| 45 | I just really prefer being alone - and it's an issueI don't see why what you're saying is a problem. There is a social stigma attached to choosing solitary activities, and people often attach labels to those who prefer to be alone. Many people, especially parents, can't understand why someone would choose such a lifestyle. A lot of people were taught from birth that what you do is grow up, find a wife, have kids, try to move into a nice suburb, and work a 9-to-5 job at an office. Those people never stop to consider that there are other options. I… | /r/seduction | 05/01/14 02:56 PM |
| 1 | Seduction now compared to 20+ years agoWhy is it a bad thing that guys are building muscle and losing weight? Isn't good health something that we, as a society, want so that our taxes are lower and simply so that people don't die? If what you say is true, then I see that as an improvement. As to porn, virtual reality will be the ultimate leveler of the playing field. In 10 years, a huge number of guys will be using VR headsets or even basic neural interfaces to interact with simulated women. Since women have historically never been e… | /r/seduction | 16/11/13 03:45 PM |
| 3 | if you are 30+ how the hell do you meet new peopleEveryone here has suggested that he move, but I'm curious as to where they would suggest him to move to. I'm tempted not to agree with the advice here simply because it seems like you should consider the destination as a place to build a whole life. There are many reasons to move, but women should be the least important thing you consider in this isntance. Why not make finding a job nearby a top priority? It's unlikely there is absolutely nothing out there. Work at McDonald's if you have to for … | /r/seduction | 05/10/13 02:12 PM |
| 2 | Ok guys, I have a question that may be a little odd/obvious.Wow, this is a post that both disagrees with some things that I have to say and shows respect and decorum. If only everyone on reddit could be like this. I would give a +10 if possible. In response to the first point, it is indisputable that the original poster cares about hurting girls. But not every guy out there is a player who cares nothing about women. If the original poster is not available, then the girl would "settle" for a guy who cares slightly less about hurting girls. In that case, i… | /r/seduction | 28/07/13 01:55 PM |
| 1 | Ok guys, I have a question that may be a little odd/obvious.Agreed on most points, but I would be careful about this notion of "robbing women of the opportunity." Women don't sit around and mope that there aren't any guys out there like some men do about women. Most women are approached by guys constantly, and they hand out rejections all the time. Your not being "out there" isn't going to make some woman's life miserable. She will simply say yes to someone else. And if she gets approached by 100 guys in a year and you were the 10th most attractive, then… | /r/seduction | 27/07/13 10:42 PM |
| 2 | How do you get over the pain of rejection?I don't want to be one of those people who calls people names and insults others on Internet forums, so I'll start by saying that I respect your opinion. But I also hope that you can recognize, having said "I haven't been in a similar situation to the one you describe" means that you may be less qualified than most to offer an opinion on how to get over rejections. I think that it is almost impossible for people to get over a fear of anything. They say that so-called "exposure therapy" is suppos… | /r/seduction | 27/07/13 02:46 PM |
| 1 | [meta] a case for abandoning 'HB notation'I've made this case in my comment history many times. The jargon is the primary reason why people are turned off by seduction. People wonder why women hate the seduction community. Wouldn't you if you were referred to as "hot bitches" and posted "lay reports?" Not only should the numbers be eliminated, but the attractiveness of a person varies from man to man and often is irrelevant to the report. If you read some of these field reports and just refer to the targets as "women," they get the less… | /r/seduction | 09/07/13 09:43 PM |
| 1 | In your experience, is it worth it to go to bars during the week? Also, what are some good ways to pick which bar to go to?For most people, it is not realistic for them to go out 5-7 times per week. For most people like me, by the time you get up, eat breakfast, commute, work your nine hours plus lunch, go to the gym, commute again, shower, make dinner, eat dinner, clean up dinner, deal with hygiene, and do mundane chores like paying bills, you might have an hour at most to do things you like. The problem with the 5-7 days per week recommendation is that you become a pickup robot. I thought that the best advice was … | /r/seduction | 10/05/13 12:38 AM |
| 2 | Is anyone really content, but at the same time really unhappy?It's great to hear that you watched League of Legends, but Heart of the Swarm was where it was at during this weekend's MLG tournament. It's a shame that LoL is starting to grow faster than Starcraft is. | /r/seduction | 19/03/13 01:46 AM |
| 0 | Seduction is a Tool or: How I Learned to Stop Reading and Hate the SedditIt is true that actions cause a reaction, but I would hope there's a difference between purposely manipulating emotions to get an outcome that is beneficial to you, and acting "normally" (if there is such a definition). In regards to human nature, there seems to be a significant difference between you and me. It may be true that many humans are selfish, as you said, but that does not mean that everyone is selfish, that selfish people cannot change, or that being selfish is a good thing. Those wh… | /r/seduction | 17/03/13 02:43 PM |
| 3 | Is anyone really content, but at the same time really unhappy?In our society, there is a myth that everyone is supposed to be extremely happy all the time. While that is certainly possible for some people (like rock stars and bigshot CEOs), for most people a more realistic goal is to be content. Part of your problem, ironically, is the reason that you posted here: a belief that you have to "be happy." There's one thing that people who are happy all have in common: they don't worry about whether they are happy or not. You said yourself that your problems ar… | /r/seduction | 17/03/13 02:27 PM |
| 0 | Seduction is a Tool or: How I Learned to Stop Reading and Hate the SedditTo everyone except pachan, look at yourselves. You ask why people don't like the seduction community, and then you post stuff like "you are retarded" or "high schooler?" What kind of respectable "man" does things like that? There is a backlash against seduction on other subreddits and forums and part of the reason is because many community members exhibit these exact sort of behaviors. Pachan responded reasonably, so here are my comments in response to him. The seduction community, in general, t… | /r/seduction | 15/03/13 10:22 PM |
| -4 | Seduction is a Tool or: How I Learned to Stop Reading and Hate the SedditWhen one thinks of "trolls" on the Internet, one usually associates them with cursing, making assumptions about other posters, and initiating personal attacks on others' character. When you compare my post to yours, you will see that it is not mine that meets these criteria. I will address the content of the post, but it's a weekday, and I won't have access to the Internet until tonight. | /r/seduction | 15/03/13 12:24 PM |
| -14 | Seduction is a Tool or: How I Learned to Stop Reading and Hate the SedditSometimes the correct answer is the most simple one. The reason that so many people have started to criticize seddit techniques is because many seddit techniques are worthy of criticism. To see why, you need to realize that something is "right" if it helps more people than it hurts - and something is "wrong" if more people are hurt than are helped. You are not included in the calculations. This is why killing people except in defense is almost always wrong - because you are hurting someone and t… | /r/seduction | 15/03/13 12:27 AM |
| 1 | The 3 beliefs 99% of people hold that were screwing up my life and sabotaging my gameI strongly disagree with most of this article. There's nothing wrong with wanting to take risks. There are some people who quit their jobs, slaved away for years and became the CEO of major corporations and now live like kings. But articles like these bother me because they make it sound as if the only prerequisite for success in anything is just putting yourself out there and trying. Articles like these sell. If the article had told you that you should keep your standard office job, then you wo… | /r/seduction | 23/02/13 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Seddit, stop being judgmental.I agree that, in an ideal world, everyone should do what they want to do. But you're missing quite a few key points that limit people's choices. Even if your life is bad, you can always change it as long as you're still alive. And if you're dead, then you're not going to be regretting that you didn't get a job you like - you'll be dead. I hear this a lot here, the idea that the minute before you die is somehow more important than all the other minutes of your life. You said you were 24 - either … | /r/seduction | 18/02/13 07:20 PM |
| 1 | One-Itis, Self-Confidence, and why my game got better after I stopped reading /r/SeductionI upvoted this comment, although I disagree that Internet communication is anonymous. In response to other posts, I've easily been able to determine several redditors' names and addresses with just a few minutes of Google searches. Likewise, people who hate remixsquared.com criticized me for blog posts on an unrelated blog to which I contributed which they found through links on other sites. Newspapers are trying to get around this by requiring facebook logins, but my experience is that that doe… | /r/seduction | 18/02/13 02:20 PM |
| 0 | Seddit, stop being judgmental.I've heard this a lot. It would be great if everyone could do what they like all the time, every day - but that is not possible. High school guidance counselors drill it into people's heads that people should choose a job they love. I would love to be a rock star, but I realized that I can't sing. So I chose a career in computers that I don't love, but where I can make a lot of money without any of the risk of having to start a business without health insurance. Consider that if everyone loved t… | /r/seduction | 18/02/13 12:35 AM |
| 5 | One-Itis, Self-Confidence, and why my game got better after I stopped reading /r/SeductionIt may be true that most people are not interested in self-improvement. But on the other hand, you have to give people the benefit of the doubt. Never make generalizations. Even if only one person in 100 is different, you have to give them that chance, because it is the right thing to do. Had you not been given that chance, you wouldn't have gotten to where you are. Your post is dangerous because it perpetuates the main problem with society today: nobody cares about you. When you say things like… | /r/seduction | 17/02/13 03:38 PM |
| 1 | I have the reverse problem that most have here. (FBD)Suppose I have a gym with 100 male clients and 100 female clients, but you have a gym with 100 male clients and 400 female clients. My gym has a 50% ratio, and yours has the ratio of 80% you described. But you have 300 more clients than I do. You should consider whether it's possible that you're just average with men and unbelievably good with women, rather than being bad with men. Also, I think that there is very little material here that points out that it is actually more difficult to make ma… | /r/seduction | 16/02/13 08:21 PM |
| 8 | Anyone 25+ and changed their life? What ignited that change for you and how did you get over the regret of the wasted years? What advice would you give?This is an interesting point, as I didn't consider the health point of view in my post up above. You seem to have realized something that 99 out of 100 people never seem to get: YOUR HEALTH IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS. People go through life complaining about all sorts of stuff: they don't like their job, their friend said some gossip, they have to commute too far, they are too poor, or (as here) they don't have a girlfriend. When you tell them these things aren't important, they even make fu… | /r/seduction | 13/02/13 02:23 AM |
| 10 | Anyone 25+ and changed their life? What ignited that change for you and how did you get over the regret of the wasted years? What advice would you give?I'm 29 and haven't had a serious relationship yet, but I wouldn't consider part of my life "wasted." I think this question is phrased wrongly. First, what exactly are you wasting? Time? If you're still alive, you can change any time you want. If you die first, then you won't be regretting that you never changed - you'll be dead. Second, "wasting" implies that you did nothing of any value whatsoever. This definition works for employment: if I "waste" time at work, I'm being paid but my employer g… | /r/seduction | 13/02/13 12:02 AM |
| 2 | how does seddit feel about sandwich_witch comment that made the front post?I agree with a lot of what you said; I don't think it's in dispute that many members see AFCs as lesser people. But that doesn't mean that doing so is right. When we make judgements of the value of people, we need to consider what the reason for the judging is. People are judged based upon how they affect other people. Consider a serial killer, who hurts not only his victims but also the families of those victims. Serial killers are scum because of the harm they do to other people. On the contra… | /r/seduction | 31/12/12 07:59 PM |
| 0 | how does seddit feel about sandwich_witch comment that made the front post?I agree with this post and have said many times that the reason so many people hate the seduction community starts with the terms used around here. These terms need to change if it is ever to gain any legitimacy outside of a clique of a few angry men. Consider the terms "average frustrated chump" and "pickup artist." You can see that a judgement is already being made that one person is "better" than the other, even if you don't know what those two things are. A "chump" is obviously a lesser pers… | /r/seduction | 30/12/12 04:28 PM |
| 1 | The 80/20 rules explained as it applies to seduction. Pay attention nice guys the world over.The point is that something has gone seriously wrong here. You (and some other posters) say that you want to come here for "seduction advice," but whatever happened to simple common courtesy? What kind of community is this where being considerate and not judging others for their shortcomings is frowned upon? We're not talking about punishing killers here; we're talking about video game players. The seduction advice is seriously messed up if people think that considering others' circumstances is … | /r/seduction | 29/12/12 03:05 AM |
| 3 | The 80/20 rules explained as it applies to seduction. Pay attention nice guys the world over.I understand this point, and acknowledge that people who play video games aren't spending that time learning how to get good at interacting with people. This makes a lot of sense. But I think where we disagree is that you attribute social skills as something that can be learned by everyone. That is not a belief that I share. While never talking to anyone else will make anyone rusty at social interaction, one person will learn as much by talking to people for 100 hours as another will learn in ju… | /r/seduction | 28/12/12 01:46 AM |
| 2 | The 80/20 rules explained as it applies to seduction. Pay attention nice guys the world over."Antisocial" people are those who do things without respect to others' beliefs and emotions. A socially-minded person would have recognized that if he claims that 80% of the audience has some sort of flaw, then it's best to discuss it in a more reasonable tone or not at all. Gaming is not antisocial behavior. The post in question is the very definition of antisocial behavior. What I don't get is that some people think stuff here is going into a black hole. Would you stand up in a stadium of 2000… | /r/seduction | 27/12/12 08:44 PM |
| 2 | The 80/20 rules explained as it applies to seduction. Pay attention nice guys the world over.Of course, there are some members who do not share these views; however, this attitude is held by many people in the community at large, not just on reddit. This thread got 20 upvotes. For every vote, there are probably 100 readers who are not members or who didn't bother to vote. The original post, therefore, insulted 1600 people who are these "lazy gamers." Some of them are depressed about their circumstances and the original post made their day worse. What purpose did these insults serve? Thi… | /r/seduction | 27/12/12 07:49 PM |
| 10 | The 80/20 rules explained as it applies to seduction. Pay attention nice guys the world over.I haven't been posting much to reddit recently, but I strongly disagree with this post. A lot of what the seduction community teaches is great and helps people improve, this post illustrates what I see as the most negative trait embodied by many people here. Whether intentional or not, the post implies that people who prefer to do things like play video games are in some way lesser people than those who spend their time out partying. This is not true. If we are supposed to eliminate judgements w… | /r/seduction | 27/12/12 03:47 PM |
| 4 | Why You Must Have Purpose and Presence (Long)A lot of this is great, but every time I read a post by people who discuss what in this post is referred to as "purpose," I again am reminded that many in the seduction community appear out of touch with the "real world." To those who are doing what they consider as their "purpose," I congratulate you. But I'd be willing to stake quite a bit on fewer than 5% of people being in this "purpose fulfillment" category. In fact, every person I know who is in the business of purpose fulfillment is curre… | /r/seduction | 20/12/12 11:13 PM |
| 1 | How Victim Mentality Can Stifle Your Life And Luck With WomenI read this article, and I think it's a good read, and an excellent piece to look at when one is dealing with business. If you are providing a service to people and that service fails, then you need to improve it in order to make more money. That's probably why the hotdog stand example works so well in his article. But this doesn't jive right in terms of seduction. Men are not providing some sort of "service" to women. Some pickup artists do indeed think that they are God's gift and that their c… | /r/seduction | 06/12/12 03:01 PM |
| 1 | Why You Should Resist Online DatingSalary is important for a reason that nobody else here seems to have mentioned: if you are rich, you probably want to meet someone who also is rich. I don't want to be hanging around someone who is unemployed and is too lazy to get a job, as it seems that many people in their 20s are. | /r/seduction | 27/11/12 06:59 PM |
| 1 | Would there be interest in a blog written by someone in the process of transforming from AFC to PUA?Well, even if this venture is nonprofit, there isn't any reason to publish a blog if it isn't going to be widely read. I published a blog (http://gamesareforchildren.com) myself, and it was never intended to make any money. But if only three people had read it, I would have stopped, because what would be the point of writing something that nobody reads? The same principles apply to both for-profit and nonprofit businesses - you need to get people interested in order for your work to matter. | /r/seduction | 26/11/12 07:15 PM |
| 11 | The blog Chateau Heartiste has a ton of good info - what's your favorite post from this goldmine of information?I went there for a while about a year ago but stopped visiting. A lot of the information stretching the truth, because the author only features studies that support his viewpoints (and ignores those that contradict him). He treats people like they are things to be manipulated and disparages anyone who disagrees with him as simply wrong. See his retort about fornicating with goats in response to a comment as an example. He was a writer for CNN and his post at CNN was deleted for violating CNN's e… | /r/seduction | 26/11/12 07:14 PM |
| 3 | Would there be interest in a blog written by someone in the process of transforming from AFC to PUA?This isn't a stupid question. I've devoted 4000 hours into four online businesses, and all of them failed despite one being unquestionably superior to all the other competing sites. It is incredibly difficult to get people to visit a blog. It is NOT true that you can just put a blog online and people will show up to it. You have to devote hundreds of hours, and probably six months, to it before you'll even have an idea as to whether it will ever be successful. And whether the blog is interesting… | /r/seduction | 26/11/12 01:35 PM |
| 4 | Hoping you guys could help me out...if you were in your 20's, and moved to a new city having known no one, could you use these techniques to make friends?This isn't realistic. I've tried it before - it doesn't work. You are correct in that people are often friendly, but they don't become friends. To see why, you need to understand how the dynamics of society have changed in a short time. In today's world, there are so many things eating up everyone's attention that you are generally an unwanted distraction. People already have too much to do. Unless you make a concrete effort to set up plans to go out and do something, people, even men, are not g… | /r/seduction | 17/11/12 08:03 PM |
| 9 | 26 years old. Confidence at an all time low. Let me elaborate...I want to offer some advice that I think will better help you with your problems than the "pickup techniques" that many posters are offering below. You need assistance in getting over depression, not in pickup. First, I'm not sure why your age is even relevant to the situation. You mentioned your age several times, as if you have some sort of time limit. Too many people look at life as a sort of clock ticking down towards the grave, and they organize their lives upon a set of things that they "h… | /r/seduction | 15/11/12 08:20 PM |
| 3 | 26 years old. Confidence at an all time low. Let me elaborate...I really dislike posts like this. First, this guy needs encouragement. I'm not sure where you got a sense of entitlement from what he wrote, but even if he did have one, he isn't going to feel better from reading this. The bigger issue is why you think that the "world [doesn't] owe [him] things." People should be entitled to a basic level of respect and decency, provided they treat others well. They don't have to fall in love with him, or even date him - but I don't think it's too much to ask th… | /r/seduction | 15/11/12 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Confession: I've been lurking for over a year and still have not approached a girl. Can't get sustained motivation.Perhaps it's just me, but I get the feeling that a lot of people in the seduction community live in a sort of bubble. Many pickup artists get so immersed in the game that they forget that the vast majority of people don't hold the same beliefs as them. They forget that marriage and kids is still the societal norm, and that men have other parts of their lives than searching for women. They forget that women are people, not machines, and that they have the same hopes, fears, and dreams that you do… | /r/seduction | 14/11/12 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Confession: I've been lurking for over a year and still have not approached a girl. Can't get sustained motivation.Perhaps I should have chosen my words more carefully to say instead that "exposure therapy" is not a reasonable approach for most people because it requires too much money or effort or has too many negative consequences. When I said it doesn't work, I should have clarified that you need too many exposures for it to be practical. Fortunately, there are drugs on the market already that have shown promise in speeding up the therapy. Most people can't afford to fly every day for several months just … | /r/seduction | 14/11/12 07:48 PM |
| 2 | What are the easiest tricks of PUA that give the best returns?These are great-sounding anecdotes, but I do think some realism is warranted here. Failure doesn't come without consequences. I know this because I've had nothing but failure in romantic interactions. When you make a move, the relationship changes. People gossip and word spreads. They don't talk to you the same way and often make snide remarks behind your back. If you walk around asking every woman out because you don't want "regret," you're in for a disaster. Failure is NOT always better than r… | /r/seduction | 14/11/12 06:46 PM |
| 1 | Confession: I've been lurking for over a year and still have not approached a girl. Can't get sustained motivation.I tried this approach about eight years ago after reading some material written by David D'Angelo. I went up to 15 women, started conversations, and got rejected every time. This is supposed to reduce anxiety, but in my case I noticed no difference. The same happened with flying. I had a fear of flying, so I took some flights. In the past 15 years, I've been on 50 flights - but the fear hasn't been reduced at all. I've never missed a flight or changed my travel plans because of the fear, but the… | /r/seduction | 14/11/12 06:41 PM |
| 1 | Need help overcoming rejections from a few years agoI also thought it might be worth mentioning that asking girls out, in school, has positive effects even if the answer is "no." I noticed that even when the answer I got was no, other girls seem to "take notice" of that and start showing interest. I don't know what causes that, but perhaps they use a rejection by a friend to tell that you don't already have a girlfriend, or that you are a sexual being, or whatever. If you get a "no" from this girl, she will probably tell other people. Pay attenti… | /r/seduction | 15/10/12 06:58 PM |
| 3 | Need help overcoming rejections from a few years agoWhen I was in high school, I started ninth grade with no friends, never joining any extracurricular activities, and being bullied mercilessly. Some instances of bullying included pulling my pants down in the middle of the hall, stealing a pair of glasses, and dumping a can of paint that destroyed a shirt. The third one angered the principal so much that he called a class meeting and went on a 30-minute harangue about how he wouldn't stand for such behavior anymore - in front of 250 people. He fo… | /r/seduction | 14/10/12 12:41 PM |
| 2 | Why is self-confidence more of a turn-on to women than it is to men?Seriously, this post is like saying "I didn't watch last week's debate, but here's my opinion of how the vice president looked when he interrupted Ryan." How does that qualify you to offer an opinion if you won't respect the original poster enough to take ten seconds and read everything? | /r/seduction | 14/10/12 11:51 AM |
| 11 | Let's create a definitive IOI list.I disagree with this post. If you want to have sex at all costs regardless of your reputation, then you can certainly be successful by assuming everyone will love you. But if you want to make friends and have a professional life, you can't just go around making a pass on everyone. The advice of assuming attraction is not practical for most people. I think that a list as described above is a very good idea. But I also think that it might be helpful to assign a value or an ordering to the items on… | /r/seduction | 28/03/12 02:19 PM |
| 2 | Answer to this shit test: "Is this a date?"You might have misunderstood. Nobody else is making fun of me after seeing me approach, because the "approach" was done in private. The girls make fun of you and gossip behind your back themselves. They then tell everyone they know, and you have to get along with these people the next day. It's not a matter of whether it bothers you. It's a matter of whether it bothers other people - and other people are usually quite bothered by such stuff. | /r/seduction | 27/03/12 07:34 PM |
| 2 | Answer to this shit test: "Is this a date?"I don't know about that. When I've tried this in the past, I've lost friends. People can go behind your back and joke about you, and everyone eventually finds out about it. The best way to lose "social proof" among a lot of people is to be rejected by a friend. | /r/seduction | 27/03/12 07:21 PM |
| 3 | Answer to this shit test: "Is this a date?"That works for random strangers, who you won't see again. Good friends, on the other hand, are incredibly hard to come by. Escalating and getting a rejection could end or damage the friendship. | /r/seduction | 27/03/12 06:14 PM |
| 2 | Have any of you had issues with and/or beaten a level of social anxiety that can be considered a phobia?Hey, I also want to point out that, even if the worst happens and you never resolve this issue, it doesn't get more difficult to meet women with age - it gets easier. After 30, the tables turn and men have more power. Whereas a 22-year-old man would never get approached if he went to a club, a 35-year-old man would probably be hit on quite frequently. Just do a Google search and read the articles by 30-something women who complain that they can't get any men to go out on dates with them. Once wo… | /r/seduction | 26/03/12 09:12 PM |
| 3 | Have any of you had issues with and/or beaten a level of social anxiety that can be considered a phobia?What helped me break out of my shell was joining a huge number of student organizations while I was in college. I used to spend every Friday speaking in front of 400 people about academics and policies and procedures and so on. I probably knew 1000 people throughout the state - but none of that is really applicable to dealing with women, nor did I get any better at dealing with women because of it. That's one reason why the original poster is misguided in thinking that becoming good with women w… | /r/seduction | 26/03/12 06:42 PM |
| 6 | Have any of you had issues with and/or beaten a level of social anxiety that can be considered a phobia?I think that what you need to do is what people here will flame me for telling you to do: ignore all of the pickup advice. There are two major problems with pickup advice that has led me to drift away from it. First, most is written as if having sex with women is the sole goal in life, rather than just one big part or even a minor part of a happy life. Most pickup artists have, understandably, a very high sex drive - that's probably why they got interested in the methods in the first place. But … | /r/seduction | 26/03/12 05:02 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone else lost the drive to ask girls out since reaching their mid 20's?Seriously, though, who has the time to approach 10 women per day? While I'm sure you have good intentions, the advice sounds out of touch to most people. By the time I work my 9 hours, drive back and forth, go to the gym, shower, make and eat and clean up dinner, deal with personal hygiene, and pay bills, there's maybe an hour left, requiring 30 minutes of driving to get to town and back. What's the point of trying to approach 10 women if you have 1 minute, if that, to converse with each one? 10… | /r/seduction | 23/02/12 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone else lost the drive to ask girls out since reaching their mid 20's?Alas, I wish it were as simple as just pushing out of your comfort zone. Psychologists like to talk about "exposure therapy" - the premise of which is that exposing yourself to fear will cause the fear to disappear. I was afraid of a lot of things, like elevators, airplanes, and even asking out women. So I started taking the elevator every time I could, I never changed a flight due to fear, and I approached 25 women or so (every single time led to a rejection). But I still dislike elevators, I s… | /r/seduction | 23/02/12 02:28 PM |
| 1 | Sedditors, what single personal improvement has improved your seduction the most? I'll start.Hmmm, that's an interesting idea. I'm actually surprised that the Pope supports it. While I recognize the importance of now, my only issue with that is that I'm not sure how the Church makes people happy right now. If you went to Mass yesterday, the motto is "remember man that you are dust, and to dust you shall return." That's hardly a positive statement. | /r/seduction | 23/02/12 02:14 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone else lost the drive to ask girls out since reaching their mid 20's?I think that you argued here that men have the upper hand in seduction, not that the dating world is equal. Statements like "you can't call yourself a man" are indicative of the cockiness, overconfidence and sense of entitlement that the seduction community preaches. They may make men more attractive to women, but they don't make men more attractive in any other area of life. Seriously, what makes you (or me, or anyone) qualified to state what makes someone a man? Many members of the seduction c… | /r/seduction | 22/02/12 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone else lost the drive to ask girls out since reaching their mid 20's?I still don't see how it is possible to state that the dating market is balanced in any way whatsoever. Assume that there is a bar where an equal number of men and women are already there before anyone else walks in. If I go to the bar and sit down alone, talking to nobody who doesn't talk to me first, the odds of my meeting a woman are nearly zero. If a woman goes to the bar and sits alone, talking to nobody until she is talked to, the odds of her meeting a man are close to 100%. The woman's on… | /r/seduction | 22/02/12 07:23 PM |
| 2 | Sedditors, what single personal improvement has improved your seduction the most? I'll start.Interesting conversation here. I don't buy this idea about looks one bit. Are you trying to tell me that if you had two guys with the same personalities, but one had a more handsome face and was taller, then the girl would choose at random? I'm also not convinced that becoming a famous movie star (or anything else) is about luck either. People who appear "lucky" put themselves in situations where the odds are significantly increased that the desired outcome occurs. For example, I could get lucky… | /r/seduction | 22/02/12 06:04 PM |
| 1 | Sedditors, what single personal improvement has improved your seduction the most? I'll start.Well, as I said below, we make decisions without having had the taste of victory all the time. I want to be a movie star, but I don't move to Hollywood, because I realize the odds of success are so low that I make enough money doing what I'm doing now. And if I had been a movie star, then my view would be biased by "how easy" it is to make it, since one's views are always based upon personal experience. Pickup artists, I think, suffer from this bias. They were successful, so they tend to forget … | /r/seduction | 22/02/12 05:49 PM |
| 1 | Sedditors, what single personal improvement has improved your seduction the most? I'll start.Why don't you go to Europe now? Providing your health is good, nothing changed to prevent you from going in the intervening 20 years. You're right that as long as you have your health, you can do anything. Even if you go broke, or lose your job, or lose your girlfriend, or your house burns down, you can always start back up again. | /r/seduction | 22/02/12 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone else lost the drive to ask girls out since reaching their mid 20's?The post is indeed a rationalization of why one should not approach women. But what you misunderstood is that I don't believe the seduction community's view (that he is making excuses) is any more valid than the argument I made. In my view, the dating environment is so advantaged towards women that I cannot place blame upon a man who has lost interest. If someone is learning how to be an Olympic diver, and he belly flops from the 10m platform and breaks his ribs, he may decide that the pain and … | /r/seduction | 22/02/12 05:41 PM |
| 6 | Sedditors, what single personal improvement has improved your seduction the most? I'll start.Why did someone downvote this post? This opinion is valid, and just because you don't agree with it is not a valid reason to downvote it. I tend to see the opposite approach. Since there is no "master plan," it doesn't really matter what you do. When I hear people talking about how they "need to make every moment count," to me that seems like they are simply counting down the days until they die. So many people go through life as if it is a countdown towards the grave. They get married at 30, ha… | /r/seduction | 21/02/12 10:31 PM |
| 4 | Has anyone else lost the drive to ask girls out since reaching their mid 20's?Or, perhaps Murphy's law holds here and he just isn't interested and there is no psychological issue behind it. I disagree with this post because you make it appear as if the difficulties in today's dating scene and the lack of interest are unrelated. It is not possible to separate the two. Of course, given the trouble men have to go through today, many people have lost interest. You can't ask him what his sex drive would be like in the world you proposed in your post, because that world doesn't… | /r/seduction | 21/02/12 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Are You Living The Life You Want?This guy is a motivational speaker. He sells speeches and writes books by telling people to be happy because that's what they want to hear. Mentioning the truth that 99.9% of people who quit their jobs fail and end up unemployed and in debt doesn't sell books. | /r/seduction | 15/11/11 05:21 AM |
| 1 | Are You Living The Life You Want?The word "settle" is another one of those simplified seduction community terms. I think you have to have bipolar disorder or schizophrenia in order to truly understand this fact: your moods are not determined by the outside world. It is possible to be completely happy one day and completely sad the next, about the same thing, simply because you are dwelling on the positives or negatives. Alas, most people have difficulty understanding this concept and I can't explain it to you. The closest appro… | /r/seduction | 15/11/11 05:19 AM |
| 1 | Are You Living The Life You Want?This post sort of gets what I was talking about here. Whether you like it or not, everything in life comes down to money. This article starts off by stating that someone who makes a lot of money but doesn't like his or her job should do something different. But the real truth is that when you have money, you have options, and when you don't have money, you don't have choices. I don't particularly like the job I'm in now, but I make more money than I ever dreamed of making. Perhaps I'll like my j… | /r/seduction | 15/11/11 05:13 AM |
| 3 | Are You Living The Life You Want?This article makes it sound easy - as if all one has to do is to go back to school, become an artist, and live happily ever after. In reality, that happens to a very small minority of people. While I congratulate the author on his success, for every one of him there are 1,000 people who end up living at their parents' house, broke with no employment prospects. They take the first job they can get and become a cashier at Wal-Mart for years. The number of washed up artists is astronomical. A bette… | /r/seduction | 14/11/11 08:06 PM |
| 1 | Get your life in order, having SOLID game only takes you so far.Which guy would you rather be, though? If I had to choose between being fat and getting better at seduction or becoming the well-dressed, perfectly fit, intelligent but socially awkward guy, I'd choose the latter any day. | /r/seduction | 08/11/11 09:54 PM |
| 1 | How to unseduce? (or just get away nicely)I see where you are coming from, but you are still showing disrespect. Your statement that you want to avoid conflict or avoid the person's showing more interest indicates that you are assuming the worst in people and not giving them a chance to respond positively. Besides that, any of the seduction community sites would state that the so-called "alpha male" says what he thinks and is not worried about being judged for his choices. Mystery would not sit around and pretend to look at his phone; h… | /r/seduction | 12/10/11 01:18 PM |
| 0 | How to unseduce? (or just get away nicely)Whether it is commonplace or not is not relevant. What matters is how the world should be. You can accept the world as it is despite your disapproval, or you can make a small step to change it. As to it never happening, I've done this once. Someone was talking to me for too long, so I said, "I'm sorry, it was nice talking to you, but I need to get back to work now." I don't see how doing that is too much to ask. | /r/seduction | 11/10/11 09:07 PM |
| 2 | How to unseduce? (or just get away nicely)Sitting around looking disinterested and checking your phone is rude and ignorant. You're wasting both your time and the other person's time while you each try to figure out what is going on You lack the confidence to simply excuse yourself The other person, if (s)he is socially inept, never has the opportunity to learn that you aren't interested, and instead is left wondering whether you wanted to continue the conversation or not If I were confronted with someone who is so bored with me that (s… | /r/seduction | 11/10/11 08:50 PM |
| 2 | Need help with AA, kino, leading and being assertive and being confident about yourself? I have found a secret weapon.I disagree with this post. Where are you dancing that the ratio is 2:1 follows to leads? I've never been to a swing dance lesson where there were more follows than leads. I used to swing dance for three years, and got pretty good at it. But I quit because the ratio become so bad that that "pickup" atmosphere that I hate came up - like you would see in a bar. I spent half of the time standing around because all the follows were already "taken." Whenever a girl was available, someone else would us… | /r/seduction | 18/09/11 01:18 AM |
| 1 | Communication in clubs: How to?While home and frat parties might be good places to meet women, you need to know people in order to go to those places. If you're just starting out, you don't know many people and need to go alone to clubs. | /r/seduction | 18/09/11 01:01 AM |
| 2 | Seddit, how do I stop these thoughts?But the problem is that you're an expert at it. When I tried it, I received 15 rejections in a row. When you succeed, I would imagine that you want to try again because you know you'll be successful. People who fail at things are less likely to try again because they put themselves through a lot of pain and saw no reward for it, so they question why it's worth going through the pain at all. | /r/seduction | 16/09/11 06:59 PM |
| 1 | [FR] First ever OkCupid date, unexpectedly cute girl, f-close.I never explored online dating because of all the negativity around it. I've heard that most of the sites have a high ratio of men to women, have many women who lie about their weight, and that it's almost impossible to get noticed without sending out hundreds of messages. Is that not your experience? Or, do you think you just were lucky this time and generally agree with my sentiments? | /r/seduction | 16/09/11 06:49 PM |
| 1 | How much of a killer with the ladies is acne?It is, but I take Depakote, which also causes extreme acid reflux. I thought it wasn't happening, but when I think about it now that you reminded me of it, my stomach is almost always upset. You get used to it and it doesn't bother you after a while. | /r/seduction | 16/09/11 03:45 PM |
| 2 | How much of a killer with the ladies is acne?Some people like to say that stress causes everything, but who would want to live a life without stress? I'd be bored to tears if I sat around every day on an island lounging on the beach "stress"-free. That's why I ignore advice that advises people to live stress-free lifestyles. Acne is a medical condition caused by a bacterial infection, not by thinking about pimples. The reason that touching your face causes more pimples is because you are spreading the bacteria everywhere. We're not talking… | /r/seduction | 13/09/11 03:18 PM |
| 1 | Is the end-goal of seduction to acquire the best long-term partner?But that's not what they preach. They state explicitly that marriage means that people are "settling" and giving up on the game, while the real goal should be to have a number of partners for your entire life. They never said that you should follow seduction community tactics until you turn a certain age. Their actions contradict their teachings. | /r/seduction | 13/09/11 03:13 PM |
| 1 | Is the end-goal of seduction to acquire the best long-term partner?One reason why I never took the seduction seriously is that the big players always seem to find themselves in long-term relationships, despite saying that such relationships are for wimps, "wussies," and "beta males." Look at Mystery and Neil Strauss, for example. It's interesting how so many seduction community members change their minds suddenly in this regard. | /r/seduction | 12/09/11 08:05 PM |
| 4 | How much of a killer with the ladies is acne?I'm 28, and had a severe outbreak of acne about a month ago. I went to the doctor, and he prescribed doxycycline, which cleared up the infection in 4 weeks. The antibiotics cost about $2/month at Wegman's, and have few if any side effects. Unless you're one of the 0.5% for whom the drugs are ineffective, you shouldn't even be wasting the time to discuss this issue. Just go get it treated and forget about it. | /r/seduction | 12/09/11 07:38 PM |
| 1 | So Seddit,can I never be honest,or therefore myself?Maybe he is just lucky. All I know is that nobody approaches me if I don't follow seduction community principles. I applaud you for looking outside the box, but unfortunately, I think that people like you are few and far between. | /r/seduction | 08/09/11 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Tons of bars in my area of NE Philly. Is it weird to go alone? How do I meet guys once there?I don't think that you'll have problems meeting people in bars, but I read a post on reddit that summed up my thoughts pretty well: drinking buddies are a dime a dozen, while friends are harder to make and more valuable. At a bar, you'll meet a lot of drinking buddies who will probably be willing to do little else than drink at bars or clubs. If you want to make true friends, who are interested in doing a variety of things, join an organization centered around something requiring a little athlet… | /r/seduction | 08/09/11 04:34 PM |
| 2 | So Seddit,can I never be honest,or therefore myself?It's amazing how often this issue comes up here. If you try to object to seduction community teachings at fastseduction.com or any of the other sites, you immediately get shot down, and it seems like there's something wrong with having an ethical dilemma about what they're doing. But I'm finding out more and more here that many people are also disillusioned with the seduction community's tactics. My opinion is to accept that there are two choices: to either follow seduction techniques and succee… | /r/seduction | 08/09/11 04:18 PM |
| 1 | I hate "The Game" but (seemingly) have to play it to get what I want. Any advice?If he is "suffering" from low testosterone, what does it matter? He certainly shouldn't treat it. Some people have higher testosterone than others. Many studies have shown that low testosterone is associated with a longer life expectancy. I don't know about you, but I'd rather live a long time than be more interested in women. Society is starting to think that everything is a mental illness when people are simply different. | /r/seduction | 07/09/11 06:42 PM |
| 2 | I hate "The Game" but (seemingly) have to play it to get what I want. Any advice?I agree with you on the idea that what psychologists would call "exposure therapy" doesn't work. Repeatedly subjecting oneself to a stressful situation in order to alleviate fear has never actually relieved that fear. I hate flying, and am nervious for days before and after a flight. It has never stopped me from traveling anywhere, and I have never missed a flight because of it. I've traveled on over 100 flights, but no matter how many planes I fly on, the fear never improves or goes away. Likew… | /r/seduction | 07/09/11 06:26 PM |
| 2 | I hate "The Game" but (seemingly) have to play it to get what I want. Any advice?I wish I could provide you with ten upvotes. This post is a perfect example of what I believe most people who practice seduction techniques fail to consider. While not everyone involved is unethical, the seduction community's stated goals are hypocritical at best. The community states that the end goal is self-improvement; improve your life and interest by women will follow. Yet, members practice techniques that are hardly self-improving. Look at some of the techniques that are claimed to increa… | /r/seduction | 06/09/11 04:05 PM |
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