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The ability to get sex when you want to is not inherently a virtue. Most men don’t want to have sex with gay men either. Noooo waaaay?! Who would've guessed that – insaaaane. I'm shocked. Is it a virtue that some people can solve complex integrals and differential equations in their head without any trouble while most other people struggle when equipped with a pen, some paper, and a calculator? Is it a virtue that Lionel Messi plays football the way he does? Or... Is it just nature and nature ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:04 PM
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For every woman who raises her standards, there are 20 women willing to lower or completely eliminate theirs for any man. Yeah, OP is completely and utterly jaded. She's not seeing the world for what it is — instead, she's hallucinating her own version of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 07:59 PM
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well, yeah – you're right but unfortunately, this has to be said here at times... It should be 'duuuuh' content but it really isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:56 PM
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Yes women are attracted to hot men, just as much as men are attracted to hot women, stop being hypocrites. I heavily suspect that most men here know and they also know that if they, too, had the opportunity, they'd also aim higher. In fact, a small percentage of men have the opportunity and they do aim significantly higher. Why? Because they can. I have repeated this within this sub but still: everyone does exactly as good as the market allows them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:34 PM
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Fuck, I had a bad feeling that I was about to read that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:33 AM
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I'm sure this is a rhetorical quesiton, right? Even the most naive Reddit user on PPD (and they're a lot of them here) couldn't have asked that question seriously. Nice troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 01:28 PM
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Sometimes I'm not sure whether it's denial or ignorance. Any idea? Genuinely curious. I'm in my mid 20s and was mostly aware of this by my late teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:46 PM
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She’s pretty but not a bombshell. Average women can get sex within minutes on the apps. If you're pretty as a woman, I mean, it's just too easy. Not to speak of bombshells...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 01:28 PM
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They decide in their head when they shake a strangers hand “Could I take this man on in a fight?” Not to toot my own horn, but I’m 6'1", 220 lbs, and I hit the gym five times a week. If you have the above thought process when shaking the hands of men, I can't help but question your intelligence. Possibly also insecure on top of being being dull. Having said that, I understood 'nice guy' always as a personality rather than a physical archtype of a man. For me, it was always synonymous with the do…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:17 AM
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There were other signs but she was hot which is why I tolerated the psychological torment. I was in my late teens/early 20s when I put up with her. At that time, every fibre in my body screamed "put a baby in her" or in other words, have sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 11:54 AM
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It ONLY matters if the woman is attracted to your looks WITHOUT the physique /close
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 05:25 PM
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shhhh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 05:03 PM
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I'm in my mid 20s now and won't tolerate disrespect and acting up any more (not even in the slightest). If a woman wants me to play along, she has to look like 20-smth Monica Bellucci. Else, I show her the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:16 PM
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I hear you (common denominator), I do but you gotta consider the following: The hot-crazy matrix is valid in so far as women who are considered well-above average in physical attractiveness never face opposition because EVERY man wants to f*ck 'em. They can NOT comprehend the word 'no' – it's almost as though you'd speak Chinese to them. If, as a man, you have what it takes to regularly pair up with women in the upper echelons of the hot-crazy matrix, you'll run into women of that type more ofte…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:11 PM
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I was in my late teens and tolerated it. She repaid me with bedroom sports, but such a setup isn’t sustainable in the long run. It'll wear you down eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:07 PM
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"my ex is crazy" = I drove her crazy Yeah, my bad that my ex threatened suicide when I didn't buy her the soda from the gas station. my ex is crazy = my ex is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 03:57 PM
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definitely – made similar experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:33 PM
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Eeeehmm, did you not read my comment? I never argued that these women didn't exist. Hot, wealthy, and charismatic men are in high demand, even for casual sex, something that women typically refrain from.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 05:32 PM
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More or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 05:28 PM
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Generally speaking, most women aren't typically interested in casual hookups. However, some are, and even those who usually aren’t might engage in one after a tough breakup, perhaps to boost their ego or simply because they're not used to being unable to have sex on demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 05:24 PM
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Great to hear that. I think if a woman genuinely desires and admires a man, they are very empathetic lovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 10:27 PM
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I was saying that I felt as though women had a good time when I had a good time, generally speaking. A strong correlation between my pleasure & enjoyment and theirs is what I perceived.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 09:56 PM
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Women here are weird Certainly! But on that that particular topic, it seems to overlap with my own anecdotal experience. Them having shaking legs by the end of it always seemed like a huge bonus but not the be all, end all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 09:46 PM
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The sentiment of other women here was that for them it's not so much about the act itself but how it makes them feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 09:32 PM
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Sex is a three course meal and a wank is satiating my hunger with a pot noodle. Interesting – this could've been a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 12:59 PM
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Men have this obsession with sex and women that women just don't have the other way around. I mean yeah, the inherent 'imbalance' stems from the (biological) fact that men want women waaaay more than women want men. As someone interested in economics, I've found sites where women offer 30min of phone time for 40-50€. The other way around, a man couldn't even sell that same service at 4-5€, probably not even 40-50 cents. It's a huuuuuuuuuge gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 12:53 PM
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A very comprehensive and thoughtful answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 12:43 PM
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The market depicts your value, not you Surely, that's something women need to internalize as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:27 PM
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if none of your "equals" are attracted to you they aren't your equals Is this really something that men need to internalize more so than women? I'm calling hypocrisy, and a massive one at that. No the women in porn you death grip to every night are NOT average Is it just the porn that distorts people's perception of average, or is it also and maybe more importantly the constant stream of social media and the guys who get to undress you with zero effort and no genuine intent? Let me tell you a li…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:19 PM
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Men obsess over achieving a variety of women, to their own detriment Diversity implies superficiality in every possible way, which numbs you emotionally in the medium and long run. True and lasting fulfillment lies in fully surrendering yourself to one person. The only thing a man should be 'obsessed' with (imo at least) is appealing to and getting the attention of as many women as possible only to increase the chances of finding the one for himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 10:24 PM
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If they aim low enough (6-7) and they are in the right setting, it's relatively unlikely that most answers will be rejections.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:28 PM
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Good luck to you then – you'll need it.
/r/RedPillWomen14/07/25 02:36 PM
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While spending money on him is nice it isn’t enough, especially if he already has loads of money himself. Men like that want something equally rare and sought-after: A highly attractive woman with a desirable personality (kind, submissive, modest, supportive, etc.)
/r/RedPillWomen14/07/25 02:33 PM
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Yet can't find a rich handsome man Every woman wants that. The implication of this is that you need to be better, in both attractiveness and behavior, than most of your competition (meaning every other women).
/r/RedPillWomen14/07/25 02:24 PM
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No, I think you're the one missing the point. If you're a CS major or a chemical engineer, then the lion's share of that is due to your inherent genetic make, not somehting you worked for. MJ is not the GOAT because he trained like mad, he's the GOAT because by his genes, he was meant to be the GOAT.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:11 PM
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Honestly, I don't think I'm pessimistic, just up to date with science and therefore realistic. My genetic-make up is not so bad that I can go and adapt the "oops, it was genes all long so I can safely give up" stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:51 PM
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Once again, there's worthwhile and sensible advice in the internet (that includes Reddit).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:43 PM
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Maybe this view isn't universal, but I don't think a guy can be a 9 without being in shape with visible abs that will sell on a dating app. Absolutely – but people don't understand that gym success or lack thereof are also high related to one's genes. In terms of affluence, that typically requires hard work to achieve Again, a chemical engineer or CS major is probably (highly) intelligent which is also genes. I'm not saying attitutide towards life is inconsequential but you are a heap of genes a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:42 PM
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That's a very stupid train of thought. II’m in this subreddit to take whatever good advice and worthwhile perspectives are left, and ignore the rest. That’s how literally every other sub on this site works by the way. PPD is not the Holy Bible where every word is infallible and deserverses unquestioned attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:33 PM
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Why are you having trouble dating, in your earnest estimation? I suppose I don't have trouble with connecting with women per se but I do have a trouble with connecting with them in a meaningful way. Why: a feeling of inadequacy being more reserved neurodivergent
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:23 PM
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What people fantasize about and realistically want will always be different. I don't think you should equate what’s written and possibly believed in this sub with real-life consensus. Most sane men and women in the real world understand that it’s not about "getting everything" — it’s about getting "enough."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:13 PM
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It’s Darwinism, but not quite how you explained. It’s the genes that push for their own survival and procreating. The human, with their particular phenotype, is just a vessel, an embodiment of a pile of genes. Even traits like effort, diligence, and the will to push through toward a goal are themselves highly heritable characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:09 PM
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I'm not saying that the argument you have presented is wrong. What I did was merely specifying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:44 PM
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You're absolutely right. A 9 is a person blessed with very rare genetics, radiating confidence, charm, and often an also affluence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:40 PM
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I’d say I’m a 7 to 8, depending on the attractiveness of the woman judging me. In the West, even if you're a 7, you still have to put in most of the effort. It certainly doesn't feel rewarding ROI wise but it's not super bad either – I'd describe it as work with occasional worthwile results. If you're a clear-cut 8 or better a 9, women will make it veeery easy for you. That's the point where dating as a man becomes enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:35 PM
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Overall. Getting women as a man is entirely too much work. More precise version: Overall, getting women as an average man is entirely too much work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:28 PM
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don't we all?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:17 AM
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What women like can be summarized by three words: tall, dark and handsome Unless you're a spastic moron, you know this already. "Look, men like women who look like Monica Bellucci or Catherine Zeta Jones." Who would've guessed that. An amazing find. People (irrespective of sex) very much prefer attractive people – insaaaane.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:37 AM
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correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:24 AM
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But they’re not going to be the sexual fantasy guys on this sub crave. What, according to you, are the fantasies of the majority of men here?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:13 AM
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I'm saying that in the majority of cases it doesn't work out even if a woman is constantly being compensated for putting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:57 PM
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Sure. I think it’s fine as a minority of occasion. And even then the male partner should recognize he got something out of the exchange when she didn’t and idk treat her to dinner, cook dinner, get her flowers, rub her feet, do the dishes, something lol. I agree. It's okay for this to happen every once in a while. But yes if it’s the majority of the occasion expect resentment or a break up, ESPECIALLY if you’re not compensating her in others ways (since you’re getting compensated with the sex/pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:49 PM
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Duty sex happens in longterm relationships all the time. It should be the majority of the time. Should or should not?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:43 PM
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I think 'duty-sex' is occasionally okay and normal at times, but for a healthy relationship, the women needs to feel it the majority of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:40 PM
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Yeah, I can't have this discussion. Not enough gas in the tank... Waving the White flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:01 PM
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Pardon me but that's just not a smart take. If averages and trends wouldn't matter, men wouldn't largely worry about being inadequate with regards to, e.g., height or income.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:46 PM
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but given two otherwise identical women? You accuse me of arguing for the sake of it while at the same time asking me a question I have answered in the previous respone to you. I mean you can not make this up, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:44 PM
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Anti-intellectual refered to the fairly stupid standard answer of women not being a monolith. As far as the occupation question is concerned. You can tell by their faces whether it was small talk or screen for wealth. A lot of the time, it's the latter. I'm not saying that asking 'what you do for a living' by default equals screen for wealth but often it just does. If one is socially well-calibrated, he can tell whether it was small talk or checking the bank account. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:43 PM
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I’m speaking in general terms: all else being equal, wealth is a desirable trait in a partner, for everyone. That’s not controversial, is it? With significant variation depending on gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:38 PM
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Both MB and CZJ are well past her prime. I was of course implying prime MB and CZJ. Youth matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:35 PM
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And I never claimed men actively screen for wealth. I said they’d prefer it when all else is equal. A beautiful woman who’s also rich is simply more appealing than a beautiful woman who isn’t. Yeah, no shit a woman who has more wealth (ceteris paribus) makes things easier but this topic doesn't determine our romantic or sexual attraction towards a woman. It's not about having money. It's more so about spending habits (maybe not piss away money on another trinket) and not being in debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:32 PM
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That's straight gaslighting . I make 68% percentile (Western country) income and am 6'1. What I'm doing here is lamenting women's anti-intellectual answers to fairly trivial questions – that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:28 PM
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Would a man truly reject a beautiful woman because she comes from money? No? Haha. Sounds right to me. That's a straw man right there. Men, at least most of them, are not pro-actively screening for money. That is to say that it's largely irrelevant if you're a 'just' an office office clerk or a denist. We're not asking you for your occupation within the first minutes of getting to know you. That's just not most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:24 PM
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Models are by and large, kinda ugly Of course! Error on my part.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:20 PM
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Women are not a monolith. Do women, on average, like tall men? Women are not a monolith. Do women, on average, prefer men with broad shoulders? Women are not a monolith. Do women, on average, prefer men who are wealthy? Women are not a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:20 PM
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Yeah, definitely. It's one of the more important qualities to them. I want to say that half the women I got to meet asked me for my occupation within the first minutes of getting to know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:17 PM
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Aight.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:06 PM
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Most models appeal to most people. As I said, that's how models make money. Isn't it a coincidence that most men are into Monica Bellucci? Isn't it a coincidence that most women are into Henry Cavill or Brad Pitt before him? What is attractive and what isn't is largely agreed upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:59 PM
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I very much agree – but the rules are what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:55 PM
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There's good agreement on what traits are unattractive but not good agreement on traits that are attractive. If that were true (which it isn’t), the modeling industry wouldn’t exist. The entire business is built on profiting from people who are, for the most part, considered objectively attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:54 PM
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Not so emotional – I'm not a mod here and neither do I aspire to be one. I think their decisions as of lately weren't exactly 'ideal'. That was someone warning you and not someone reporting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:51 PM
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"Every woman is unique in their taste in men" lol no they aren't You have to stupid to still believe in this 'women aren't a monolith' non-sense. The vast majority of women are physically attracted to Henry Cavill and Brad Pitt before him. The vast majority of women are physically attracted to broad shoulders and a small waist. Blah, blah, blah... Similarly, most women like Monica Bellucci and her curves. If beauty wasn't (mostly) an agreed upon concept, we wouldn't have models neither...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:49 PM
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FYI: This will get locked soon because 'looks' isn't an allowed thread-topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:44 PM
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Do you actually NEVER get laid or approached, or are you exaggerating? I do get laid within a tolerable frequency (more is always better, generally speaking, but it's enough I suppose) but I had to work towards that circumstance – a lot actually. As far as being approached by women goes: I believe that's something only very few men are privileged to experience, and I'm just not one of them. In other words, I never had a woman proactively asking me for my number, socials or date. However, I do ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:06 PM
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The issue today lies in the combination of a) the free dating market (in and of itself good & ethical) and b) widespread moral relativism + state interventionism (both very bad). Half a century ago, actions like getting tattoos or having a child outside of marriage could seriously damage your reputation. Back then, there was also less government intervention and social welfare, which meant families were more reliant on one another and tended to stay together. In contrast, today’s system & cultur…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 12:46 PM
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Unless you are literally a millionaire the state is probably mostly supporting YOU more than you are women lol That's definitely not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 12:34 PM
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Absolutely not. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. Once people get a taste of blood, they never forget it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 12:19 PM
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Do y'all believe trans people exist ? I believe that there are people who mistakenly believe themselves to be a gender that they actually are not. I attribute this to 'confusion'.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:48 PM
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I'm not 100% sure but I would imagine that their reasoning is the following: You get to meet them there (and you do) but from there on, only a few have what it takes to get more than that out of a bar and/or club.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 08:41 PM
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I already did LMAO. yeah, cba – I can't argue with the Einsteins of PPD anymore. Costs too much energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:22 PM
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Kindly state your point within a sentence or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:59 PM
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Love and sex is not a right Watch this thread blow up with upvotes for essentially saying nothing more than people don't owe other people their time, attention, or affection. Very intellecutally stimulating experience lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:28 PM
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Much better post!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 01:40 PM
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Marie Curie.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 01:39 PM
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All man cheat. You need to see a mental health specialist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 01:31 PM
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Which is why I suggested that giving up is the correct ROI decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 01:13 PM
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Clearly!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 12:10 PM
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I'm sorry, but I don't want to go there. This isn't worth my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 12:07 PM
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It doesn't reflect YOUR reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 12:05 PM
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woman needs to be submissive or have only the goal of raising kids. In short, because it works. Why is there Pilot and a Co-Pilot? Because that works best. Why is there a Captain in Football? I suppose because it works best. Why do employees have a team leader? Because it works best that way. There’s nothing wrong or unnatural about natural authorities, so long as there is an exit option if they prove unfit. In all forms of (succesful) social organization, there always has benn a authority that …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 10:00 AM
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I think you can raise successful children even if that’s not all you do all the time. It’s important to have involved parents, not just a mom who spends all her time with the kids. Especially if she also comes from money and is highly educated, what reason would she have to play nanny and submit to her man all her life? I disagree - I believe that if a mother has the privilege of being able to stay home and raise her children full-time until they reach a certain age, she should take advantage of…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:19 AM
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A woman who wants to just pop out and raise kids all her life and doesn’t have a mind of her own would get judged by most people I know. I'm just going to say that our social circles and values vastly differ. In my community and among the people I know, a mother who puts in the effort and actually successfully raises her children well is respected and valued – definitely not considered as intellectually deficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 08:56 AM
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I would have to disagree. I'm pretty sure that within old money circles the concept of hierarchies are higher valued and better preserved. They are typically aware that this (nuclear) family organization is the most successful socio-economically speaking and always has been. I think 'progressive' people with money tend to be the egalitarian ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 08:45 AM
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What kind of women do rich men generally marry? Women who are... attractive submissive youthful relatively educated and smart kind reasonably crazy; max 3/10 on crazy scale
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 08:29 AM
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Maybe, erm, just maybe, that instead, of erm chit-chat, actually observe actions, empirically significant data, and trends. That might prove effective...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:49 PM
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The most attractive people having the most success seems pretty damn fair to me. What is fair about having success because you were born to be successful? Monica Bellucci did nothing to earn her appearance that granted her global success. Lionel Messi did nothing (training relative to talent) to become the greatest to ever do it. We know these people because they are anomalies of nature. 1 in 100,000,000+ are maybe equipped with similar capabilities and qualities. Nature doesn't know morality an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:02 PM
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Women preach “confidence” but get annoyed when average men think they have a chance with them In most circumstances related to dating and women's desire for men in that context, the prerequisite is always that men are (sufficiently) attractive. This is, once again, a thread in which men are getting worked up about a discrepancy between what is being said and what is being done. Ten years ago, most people on Reddit argued that height was a negligible factor when it came to dating and its importan…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:36 PM
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This guy is 85 IQ max. He reads and/or refers to something that has not been written. If people aren't all that, mhm, how do I put it, you know what I mean, a meaningful convo is just hard. I mean check my back 'n forth with him. It's painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:10 PM
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I think in today's dating economy, especially, the general consensus is that prostitution should be decriminalized and destigmatized. Some men just aren't competitive, which is why there has always been a stable demand for prostitution throughout history. With regards to ChatBots/AI 'women'. I don't think men are (yet) down enough to talk/interact with a bot that another man has created. Might be wrong though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 03:27 PM
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Now, how many important metrics are there for mating success? Broadly speaking, a hand full. How rare is it to be 25th percentile or more, in 6 of the important metrics? Only 17.8% of the population meet that criteria. So you would be in the top 20% of men, for being at least 25th percentile in those 6 traits. 82.2% of the population are below 25th percentile in at least one of the 6 criteria. That's not how percentiles work. If you're 25th percentile, means that 75% of competitors (i.e. men) ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 02:03 PM
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I did not say nor imply that, Untertanen Michel. Are you actually unable to read or trolling? Asking because I'm curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 12:28 PM
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I guess I need go to bed then... I was trying to say that if you have surplus of time and you're feeling good mentally, you could use up some of that time to get da gurlza. However, I don't think one can justify being below-average and going after da gurlza with a career, money-troubles, house chores, etc. There's not enough time, money, and sanity to spend on smth that likely isn't going to materialize. I hope this was more clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 01:17 AM
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It really depends on your personal situation. If you’re someone who’s maybe below average in looks but financially set, doesn’t need to work, and your mental health is in a great place, then by all means, use that extra time and energy to chase after women. But if you’re an average guy working a regular 9 to 5, dealing with commutes, grocery runs, and trying to preserve what’s left of your work-worn nerves, I’d seriously advise against risking your peace of mind chasing something that’s often mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 01:02 AM
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Women (as a collective) are not insanely pick and neither are men. Growing up is realizing that everyone is as picky as the market allows them to be. Why do average women get to pick above-average men? Because it works. Men tend to say 'yes' to such an arrangement more often than not. Why do average men go after below-average women? Because it works. Aiming higher any higher than that would result in a catastrophic ROI. Throw everything at the wall and see what sticks costs labor (--> fininite t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 11:52 PM
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I mean there's definitely truth to that. You don't need to max out most or all attributes... BUT if you’re sitting between 25th and 50th percentile on most of the important metrics, then honestly, in highly competitive markets like Europe or North America, I’d personally advocate for mostly giving up. Juice not worth the squeeze situtation in my humble opinion. You can interpret this answer as a strategic competition killer or a finite time, money, and sanity protector. Up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 11:42 PM
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I'm afraid that you misunderstood things. Misogynistic men are attractive DESPITE their misogyny and not BECAUSE of it. Super attractive people that most other people would have sex with get to behave differently because they can, because the demand is there. That isn't to say that every attractive guy is an asshole but a good deal of 'em definitely are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 11:26 PM
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Why will the top 10% of men who is going for casual (and hence not taken) care about the avg women who he fucks and dump? Let me answer it this way: I wouldn't bet the farm on it... Again, I'm just stating what it takes for a woman to have a good time when engaging in such an arrangement. Whether it is advisable or not to seek out such an arrangement considering the liklihoods of success is another discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 04:55 PM
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three things really... a woman being able to seperate physical intimacy and emotional intimacy (being able to enjoy) a well-above physically attractive man that knows the female body (looks + experience) an empathic and good-willed man who not only cares for his own pleasure (safety + kindness)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 02:29 PM
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high-earning women don't have it "harder" because men are intimidated by them. They generally refuse to date poorer guys, so their dating pool shrinks as they search for "economically attractive men". Yes, on average, the issue is with the woman and not the man here. Tall women have it harder in the same sense that high-earning women have it "harder" They refuse to date shorter guys, so their dating pool shrinks. I'm 5'10 and would happily date a woman as tall as myself, but I doubt the majority…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 12:14 PM
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Why the Misconception? I think the perception you’re describing comes from a kind of rose-colored, retrospective mythologizing of the past — imagining a time when almost everyone was paired off or sexually active, and only the visibly marginalized were excluded. But in reality, romantic and sexual exclusion have always existed in every era and demographic, albeit expressed differently in different social climates. chatGPT bogus, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 11:46 PM
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Q4Men: an average or below average looking woman matched with you on tinder. She messages you that she is trying to escape an abusive boyfriend and wants to crash with you in exchange for sex. What do you do? I'd politely tell her to call the cops unless he man/bf was about to kill or (seriously) hurt her. Then I would maybe offer my apartment as one night of shelter. In short, it depends on the circumstances. Her being hot or not so hot is completely irrelevant, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 09:31 PM
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Oh, the irony...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 07:56 PM
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RIP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 07:42 PM
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Look at the comments they’ll you’ll know smart ass. Nice English, fat brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 07:36 PM
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Increasing the female/male sex ratio at birth (more women born) would help fix the dating market. Another post that we see every 3 months that isn't carefully considered. Attraction is relative — even if there were two women for every man, women would still be driven by their biological instincts to seek out and compete for the (roughly) top 20% of men. We've always had men who, even if their life depended on it, couldn’t find a mate outside of a brothel. What’s changed with social media is that…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 07:09 PM
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Apparently women just magically turn “demisexusal” around average men Too long, didn't read. >> Most men are attracted to most women while most women are NOT attracted to most men << This circumstance is self-evident. To further discuss this is the equivalent of 'analysing' or debating whether or not most men are taller/stronger than most women. The facts are clear. There's nothing to be discussed really unless you have a surplus of time or get triggered hard by people who deny the obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 06:32 PM
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Well, since this classic repetition of a post has 30 likes as of now, we can conclude that PPD is a very sophisticated crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 06:24 PM
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Women Have it Easier in Dating Than Men. Why does this post have 30 likes? Only the most simple-minded crowd would reward such post with 30 likes. I hate to be blunt but men are, on average, stronger than women. *30 likes please*
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 06:22 PM
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Physical attractiveness is very important - one of the pillars of a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 02:47 PM
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Rule 1: be attractive, Rule 2: don't be unattractive There's more than being attractive but it's the fundament, something that can not be stressed enough. Men who don't know this by now can't be helped anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 08:23 PM
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Most men are not that powerful. I did not say or imply that. Among the vast majority of men who are generally interested in doing the above things with beautiful women, a few will have the wealth, power, and perhaps the looks to actually make it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 11:15 AM
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I have no idea what will happen in the future , maybe the pendulum will stabilise but currently women are asking for somthing which is getting much and much harder for the younger men to provide. They can ask and ask until they're on their deathbed. If you chronically vote for wealth distribution and expect your man to be a 'man' — that is, to provide the lion's share of the income — you'll be punished by reality (logic, more precisely). Only (exceptionally) beautiful women can afford to ignore …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:39 AM
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I accept that men are just super horny and experience horny brain in a way that many women do not That's definitely true. But I think it’s really weird that he chose to tell me. Sexual urges are something most men experience, regardless of class, but the decision to act on them — and to disclose them to the woman involved — is certainly influenced by class.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 11:42 PM
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Then he told me he would touch himself to the sound of my voice when we played games together This is related to (lack of) social class more so than inherent male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 11:24 PM
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While going from 0 > 7 on looks is more impactful than going from 0 > 7 on game, the point is that going from 0 > 7 on game is more impactful than going from 7 > 8 on looks In the vast majority of cases, the highest ROI is gained by investing in your appearance. Let me know if I need to further clarify...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:59 PM
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The majority of people aren't as bitter and awful as people here like to make them out to be I've noticed that there are very few places, online or offline, where both men and women are as miserable, mentally-deranged, and downright toxic as they are on here. That’s why my activity on this subreddit has dropped significantly compared to a year ago. These days, I mostly stick around to offer what I believe to be objective truth on various topics, or at least to point out statistically significant…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:35 PM
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As a guy, game is arguably the best thing to invest in these days In the vast majority of cases, the highest ROI is gained by investing in your appearance. This holds true for both men and women whose goal is to attract the widest possible audience from the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:25 PM
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I'm in the top 5% tax bracket. Every man on reddit, ever - especially on PPD. PPD = low-key higher performer men gathering. Are you also +6'1, white, dark hair, and handsome? Genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:45 PM
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Just say parasite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:38 PM
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People have issue even when men are happy being single If you're a NEET, you're, by definition, a parasite. People usually talk down to parasites and rightfully so. If you're an ugly man who doesn't want (can't get rather; won't admit though) women but works and/or is self-sufficient, you're viewed as a neutral adult. Let's not pretend that society at large (neighborhood, family, online, etc.) treats a man who is unable to get into relationships as a lesser man. Most people are aware that import…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:38 PM
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I read it as 'how to have sex,' rather than, as I believe you intended, about entering environments like one-night stands, partnerships, or marriage - situations where people typically have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:19 PM
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What do you want from a marriage? kind partner and potentially mother attractive appearance, good sex someone with a similar Weltanschauung traditional feminine qualities
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:09 PM
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Intellectual capacity isn't indicative of bedroom performance. To perform sexually, you need to know how to move, have some understanding of anatomy, and last but not least, be attractive. That’s all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:00 PM
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If someone has an IQ of 125 and the other person of 100, we're talking (quantitative) inequality, FYI.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:43 PM
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But for Redpillers. the crux of your ideology is that if you weren't "Born into it" in the sense of having the looks, body, status, whatever That's not what the RP is about. How do you defend capitalism, the economic system where wealth gets hoarded by the top 1% (an actual literal metric as opposed to the fabricated "top 1% of men"), but have issues with it being unequal in the dating world? Inequality is a natural, unavoidable fact of life in both economic and social contexts. People differ in…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 08:56 PM
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Advice geared towards men is circular and designed to drive you insane Well, f*ck advice, Einstein. By now, it's cyrstal clear what men and women alike want in the opposite sex. Want to appeal to the opposite sex? Be what they want. Most of us grew up with the internet — for our generations, there’s absolutely no excuse for being naive, helpless, or outright stupid. JUST. BE. WHAT. THEY. WANT. It’s that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:28 PM
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The world is neither equal nor fair; in fact, it's anything but that. What we have now is a relatively free market paired with a considerable degree of moral relativism. There are certain consequences to such a mix. If you're a dreamer, you ask yourself what should be and theorize endlessly... If you're a realist, that is someone who's keen on results, you ask yourself what is and adapt accordingly...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 09:33 PM
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You're reasonably attractive despite that thing in your nose – if you like it, wear it. Personally, it's not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:07 PM
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OMG, you were right all along. I'm an exceptionally stupid individual who can't forward any argument without the help of AI. Thank you for your profound contribution to this discussion. Do me a favor and don't @ me. I'm afraid my imbecile brain can not understand the level of complexity and just genius really that you provide with your takes - thank you very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:29 AM
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SIlly question, but I'll give a genuine answer since I'm in a good mood on this gorgeous summer day: Be what they want - that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:10 PM
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Why would I provide research to a souce that is 'notoriously unreliable'? I'll just call it quits here - clearly I lost the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:07 PM
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Any AI software is being trained on internet platforms that really only started using the term ‘hypergamous’ about humans when redpill ideologies popped up about it. Arrogance in the absence of knowledge. On average, do you consider men to be more hypergamous than women? Please provide sufficient evidence when presenting your answer. <image> If you want, I can link/show you the research.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:59 PM
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you know chatgpt probably knows you're a man AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHA Holy smokes, the amount of c@ping within this sub is unreal at times - craaaazy. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:54 PM
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Are you stupid or trolling? It says particularly with regards to status and resources. Can your brain comprehend what those letters imply? Let me do you a favor and reveal what it means: They are particularly hypergamous with regard to status and resources, but also in other respects. For you, mr or ms fat-brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:39 PM
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or DeepSeek: <image> F*ck, their all very misogynistic and therefore clearly bad sources. We should just ask women and take their truth as objective reality. I think that solution makes the most sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:37 PM
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I don’t think ChatGPT is supposed to be used as a source Certainly not - my bad! Let's do grok: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:36 PM
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<image> ChatGPT is clearly misogynistic or (very unlikely) objectively right...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:27 PM
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On the bright side, when we turn our phones off and start engaging with real humans who aren’t internet brainwashed, there are still some good ones around. People on the internet are, on average, just more honest. Most people you encounter in real life present a version of themselves that fits within what’s socially acceptable. Men among all classes are 'evil' & 'shallow' in that they prefer women with c cups, long hair, nice curves, low body count, no tattoos, compliance, lingerie, etc. All the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 01:48 PM
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According to OP, your circumstances can't be attributed to your height. Maybe it's just bad luck, maybe not... who knows...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:53 PM
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Good looking 5'6 guys have no problems getting women. Where I'm located (Western Europe, occasionally the Balkans), this statement is utterly and competely false. Just not at all grounded in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:44 PM
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The internet has enabled men to listen in on female spaces, and men don't like what they hear This is very true. Men have a hard time digesting the reality of what actually drives value, desire, and respect in them as measured by heterosexual women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:37 PM
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Is that because or despite women's selective behavior...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:57 PM
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Mens self esteem should not be tied to sexual success. Men's self esteem should also not be tied to their competence, for instance as measured by IQ. Men's self esteem should also not be tied to their height. For neither of the two you have earned, but you were born with it... Sexual success is actually the exception, not the norm Even so, around 90% of men still base their sense of worth and competence on reproduction (fucking), which remains one of life’s top objectives, followed only by susta…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 03:47 PM
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It’s a good thing that women are being more selective and choosing less men to be in relationships with Men may not always like to admit it, but it’s the selective behavior of women that plays a crucial role in maintaining the overall quality of a population's genetic and social standards. If women approached mating with the same indiscriminate tendencies as men, societal well-being would likely deteriorate. Societies where women are generally more intelligent, not just in choosing partners but …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 03:39 PM
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What advice would you give to someone who wants to go pro in the NBA at that height?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:52 PM
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That's not good as in non-competitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:51 PM
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Are you 5'8 in Colombia or in Croatia? The returns of your measurses vary by the competition that you're facing in a given environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:11 PM
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Because they would have to face the fact that it is out of their reach and there is nothing more depressing that feeling left out for reasons you can do nothing about. This is a valid for a 9 year old boy but not for a 27 year old man. If you're that 9 year old boy mentally at 27 years of age, then you're a weak little cuck doesn't deserve to procreate to be honest. Yeah, from an economic pov that is certainly good that most men think that it is money and flashy cars that women desire. If they k…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:51 PM
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What if men instead of asking questions day in and day out would just look at reality, at empirical data, and other meaningful stats? I wonder if that would lead to more results... Hard to figure out for the average 90 IQ desperate man I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:26 PM
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The fact that men on this sub still routinely ask this question is completely fucking nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 07:56 PM
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This Sub is an Echo-Chamber, That Doesn’t Advance Anyone. I wouldn't say that this sub-reddit qualifies as an classic reddit echo-chamber such as r/AskWomenNoCensor. The heterogeneity of opinions and takes seems significantly higher, in my opinion. With regard of getting concrete and useful advice out of this sub: If you want to gather statistically significant data to improve yourself and/or your dating life, you just use google and/or AI. People lie, delibaretely or subconsciously. That's just…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 09:17 PM
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How often are you experiencing some kind of flirtatious interaction? Every 3-4 months I'd say.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:33 PM
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Women are the sexual selectors. As the pickier sex, they get to choose who they date and have sex with so they have more power and freedom in the dating market. Most (average) men take what they can get in terms of sex and relationships. If this is the case, then why are men always blamed for age gap relationships when the women in them are choosing to be with those men? Because people are bad at making use of their brains, applying logic instead of emotions to problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:24 AM
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This is very wishy washy... We don't know what you look like; all we have is hearsay... We don't know how the women you actively pursue look like... If you're a genuinely attractive man, you probably won’t have trouble getting the girls — unless, of course, you’re only chasing the Monica Belluccis of your generation, which is unlikely since there are hardly any. Long story short, anecdotal evidence doens't prove or disprove anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:10 PM
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filthy m@ggot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 09:00 PM
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More ugly men than ugly women. What a stupid thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:11 PM
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Why do you think women are less attracted to men than men are to women ? Nature. Women are the genetic quality control so to speak. If women were to fuck anyone with a penis between their legs, the genetic material would deterioate real fast as men, too, make an effort to fuck everything with a human vagina between their legs. In Star Wars terms: Women are the chosen ones - bringing balance to the force.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:08 PM
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What do you think of women who ask men out, propose to men and pay for men in the first dates or in all dates? 1) it's cute, definitely open to that and whenever it happened, I felt very happy afterwards, especially if I reciprocated feelings 2) not my cup of tea. 3) first dates? I very much prefer to pay. following dates? her picking up the bill every now and then shows that she, too, values the human being in front of her. It's a green flag, in particular in this inflated and immature "I'm a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 09:24 PM
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Oh, okay. That didn't sound like Schumpeter at all to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:31 PM
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One hour of sex is far less regulated by the state than, say, medicine, cigarettes or even cars. I don't see how that claim of Schumpeter (that is if it's authentic) holds up to reality. Men and women who meet on platforms where sex is traded for money go by supply and demand and by supply and demand only. It's one of the most 'purely' capitalist markets out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:22 PM
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For Є the numbers are: Total compounded inflation (2020–2025): +22.7% Average annual inflation: 3.8% p.a.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:16 PM
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There’s more demand and less supply in the sex market than in other markets No shit, you remarkably intelligent non-ape. What do you think I've been hinting at for the last 2-3 comments?! The number of bots pretending to be humans on this site is honestly unreal - Tinder is a joke to this, lol. I can't - I should delete this platform already.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:05 PM
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Sex work isn’t really part of the ‘real’ economy. Sex workers set their own prices because they’re working in their own market. It was already jacked up. Sex work, like all markets, is driven by supply and demand - nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:47 PM
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If you think that an annual 9% increase (compounded) in 5 years time (2020-2025) is normal, then you just don't understand what you're talking about, at all. You go by your gut feeling rather than facts. Big Mac 2020: $4.89 Big Mac 2025: $5.99 That is 5.1% (higher than most other goods and services) annually between 2020-2025. Very different from 9%.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:41 PM
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Sex work is the way of the future As someone with an econ background myself, I just looked up the current prices for one hour of sex work on a well-known European site and compared them to what they were five years ago. Assuming I recall correctly (which I think I am) prices have surged by 54%. That’s very telling of how supply and demand have shifted in this market... In short, the math (empirical data) confirms your claim: prices have risen far beyond inflation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:21 PM
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Because to get them to want you, you basically had to prove that you don’t need them. Normally, it's not a thing that you actively pursue to attract women. Having sexual discipline, friends, and being able to enjoy one's own company (self-respect and so forth) are just healthy traits in general, though, particularly in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:25 AM
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Why wouldn't you be able to enjoy someone who adds to your peace?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:19 AM
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The key to not being afraid of losing a "romantic" relationship is learning to be happy without one. Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:12 AM
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The average man cannot set healthy boundaries or feel at ease and comfortable in a relationship because he’s so replaceable she’ll just walk away Yes, he can — that is IF he has sexual discipline, friends, and is able to appreciate his own company at times. Men who do not have the above qualities will struggle to initiate and maintain a relationship. (worthwhile) women smell losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:09 AM
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Okay, ThatBitchA. I'll consider it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:50 PM
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Please don't limit qualities like empathy, patience, cooperation, etc. to just one gender. Yeah, I'm clearly not on the intellectual level that you are, which is why I'm politely asking you again to never @ me. I don't think there's much left to be said between the two us. You go, girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:48 PM
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You're welcome - thank you for reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:15 PM
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What do you consider "traditional feminine qualities"? Examples of traditional feminine qualities: Nurturing — caring for others’ well-being, emotionally supportive. Empathy — sensitivity to others’ emotions and experiences. Gentleness — approaching situations and people with softness and kindness. Compassion — a desire to alleviate others' suffering. Cooperation — valuing harmony, collaboration, and consensus. Patience — willingness to endure difficulty or delay without complaint. Modesty — hum…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:09 PM
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'm asking if their femininity is a prerequisite to your arousal. Like, imagine a woman who acts like "one of the bros", but is otherwise attractive appearance-wise. Yes. If you're not necessarily feminine but fun to be around, you're (potentially) my friend. When it comes to romantic attraction, though, I absolutely need a woman to have traditional feminine qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:03 PM
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Men were seen as the choosers, and women were just options. No man over the age of 16 with a reasonably decent education and understanding of the world believed this — not in 2014, and not even in 1984. Bogus — completely false and unfounded.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 03:24 PM
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Only Women, Children and Pets Are Loved Unconditionally. I know it's not easy for men, but seeing the way you behave, I wouldn't want to have a daughter who would one day have to choose a man like you. You whine and complain about the same things over and over, while 90% of you haven’t even seriously tried in life to make yourselves competitive, to become the best version you can be, or to be just presentable. Yeah, it’s edgy, but man the f*ck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:13 AM
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In most animal species, the most dominant males tend to mate more frequently. So, wouldn’t it be logical to assume that dominance is also a highly sought-after trait in men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:32 PM
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Not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:23 PM
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I agree that the numbers are somewhat naive but what matters here are her intentions and she's golden.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:21 PM
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Take notes, ladies. https://x.com/TheGabriel72/status/1932520272017469885 This is exactly the breed of woman that men would go to war for (unironically).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:13 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:11 PM
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It does, in fact, look like a real woman but it also looks like a real skinny woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:18 PM
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People try to apply this to everything Well, maybe they do that because it’s actually true? Did that option ever cross your mind? It's ok to acknowledge what you are. That's not how markets work, though. Saying I'm worth $100/hour doesn’t magically mean I have the skills that companies consider justified for that rate. What matters is how others see and evaluate you. Do you yourself think that you're attractive? If that’s the case, good for you—you can date yourself now, congrats. If not, it may…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:08 PM
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"A man who must say 'I am the king' is no true king" I don’t think there are many - if any - women who truly deserve “princess treatment,” among those who insist on it from men. It's like a man saying that he deserves high quality p*ssy. If you (really) are that kind of guy, women of that caliber will naturally be drawn to you. Free markets work - they're both efficient & moral...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:34 PM
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Women with messed-up/morally problematic interests are shown more grace than men with nerdy/unusual but not morally problematic interests No sh*t, Captain Obvious? Reaaaaally? It's almost as if more people wanna f*ck them and therefore hold them to a different moral standard - craaazy theory. Kindly DM me your PayPal so I can honor that groundbreaking scientific finding. I can also do BTC donations if you want. HMU.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:12 AM
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No, I couldn't delay gratification even when on lexapro.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:09 AM
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I've had the European version (lexapro) of it and it didn't do too much honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:02 AM
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I'm paying my own shit and not living off of mum's paycheck if that is what you're getting it. This is just plain stupidity and you (hopefully) know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:41 PM
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In my experience, a man (loser himself) could only convince a loser woman that he is hot shit when in reality he really isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:33 PM
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One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. This headline implies that it worked at some point which, of course, it didn't. Women aren't some stupid breed of humans that can't see through bullshittery. If you're attractive and desirable, they'll know. If you're unattractive and undesirable, they'll know. If you're inbetween the above two, they'll know. You can maybe get a kid to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:26 PM
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I'm farily certain that it's related to brain chemicals/make-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:02 PM
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That can't be it... lol. I mean are 19 cm small to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 05:54 PM
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Go ahead
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 05:45 PM
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I mean I hit the gym + cardio 4-5x a week. There just might be a genetic component to being able to delay gratification.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 05:37 PM
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There’s only three guys that’s lasted a decent amount which was about 15 minutes. HOOOOOW???
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 05:34 PM
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That doesn't mean that they can't be one or more of the above adjectives that I provided...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 05:17 PM
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The latter would be correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:10 PM
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It's not without content, though, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:03 PM
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High value virgin women dont wan't sexually unsuccessful men Captain obvious award of month June goes out to you, brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:01 PM
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Yeah, I wouldn't go near that sub ever. This is enough and I've drastically reduced my exposure to this sub-reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 06:52 PM
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Likewise!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:04 PM
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The women here (and I’m sure the same can be said for the men) aren’t representative of the average woman. I’ve never encountered a group of women as spiteful, passive-aggressive, backhanded, and downright malicious as the ones on this subreddit. There’s a reason people discover this place, turn to it, and ultimately stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:52 AM
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Thank you but I know more efficient ways of using my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:39 AM
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Yeah, I'm not having this discussion. I'm very much wrong and all your friends are, of course, in the right. Let's just leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:26 AM
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It’s not pathetic. It’s a biologically necessary feature. That isn’t to say that men who don’t see a wet twat every other day don’t get out of bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:43 PM
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I have had and still entertain relationships with women, both of platonic (friends) and romantic nature (partner and flings). Pussy (or a great woman) is the single greatest motivation to try, get up in the morning, and kick ass. Nothing comes close and most men are built that way. Seems to be a default feature. I suppose only a child would come close to that sensation. Having said that, I do think that an increasing number of men do make dating harder than it needs to by playing the lone wolf a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:20 PM
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If you're hinting at me, I won't show my face for professional and safety reasons, but I have shown my mostly nude body to a user here to prove my stats, and he verified it. This is weak. Even if you tagged the people who supposedly saw your body (which of course you didn’t), it still wouldn’t validate your argument. Chances are, random men on the internet — specifically the ones you’ve been hinting at in the comments (those who by your opinion can't have preferences) — will pretty much like any…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:28 PM
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She's being evil & vile, deliberately or because she can't accept other people stating their preferences when it collides with her own. Before, I genuinely liked her takes on countless threads. She's smart and usually has interesting takes, but boy I'd have never guessed that this woman has that capacity for being evil, back-handed, and all-around just insufferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:06 PM
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You did not do the same thing - not at all. The same thing would've been: E.g. I don't like men with beards or glasses. What in actual (non-wishful thinking) reality you did: Ugly people should not be able to share their preferences, if not from a moral pov, then from a utilitarian one. This, of course, was not at all subject of the discussion and merely an attempt to trigger me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:02 PM
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This is called projection. Oh, yeah? I'd love to get, say 1000 people to read this and guess whose fee-fees were in fact hurt based on my initial remarks (unjustfully so, ofc). I really would... Sorry if practical, rational, and logical pairings are a problem to you, I guess? But since you broached the topic, why do you feel that "Clarifying that a certain type of person isn’t my preference" is a moral action, when rational and logical desire for mutual sexual attraction has the same results? Lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:54 PM
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Exactly. Why are men so determined to criticize women's appearance, when they get wildly angry if women return the favor. I wasn’t criticizing anyone. Clarifying that a certain type of person isn’t my preference shouldn’t be mistaken for an attack or harsh critique. It’s simply a matter of compatibility — I’m not drawn to those types and never will be. There’s no desire, and that’s perfectly fine. Or more pointedly, why do ugly men with few options spend so much time criticizing the appearance o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:35 PM
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I absolutely agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:14 PM
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Why are we so offensive today? Like, I’m aware of the fact that I’m 1/8bil people. Still, I take the freedom to regularly share my experiences, opinions, and yes, also preferences. We have both women and men doing that in the millions on a daily level. I don’t see anything wrong with that. I was tactful about it and it was related to the discussion. I don’t see the problem, not at all actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:10 PM
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Hello @ sharp I believe that a woman, generally speaking, gets (no) piercings, (no) tattoos, or a certain type of clothes because they prefer to look a certain way in the mirror. Anglo-Saxons would maybe use the word self-expression. I’m not 100% sure. I just don’t want to associate with women who have green hair, tattoos on every inch of their body, and piercings on all and in particular the most untraditional parts of their body. I believe that I can give them nothing and neither can they. Peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:55 PM
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Good - that’s a win-win. Both parties get to be time efficient that way. Bless you and all the other women with similar intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:51 PM
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I do associate a certain type of (what an American would label as “liberal”) personality/belief system with people (women) who have nose rings but it’s such a turn off for me physically that I wouldn’t bother finding out ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:25 PM
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I'm not on the internet I'm in real life. Wrong. You made that comment on the internet, not in real life. The fact that you're (most probably) a real person with a real life doesn't take away from what I said, not at all actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:19 PM
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I'm not angry or mad at everyone, though frustrated at times. I believe that under the current market conditions, both genders act as expected and if the roles were reserved, chances are the sexes would act exactly as the opposite sex acts now. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:20 AM
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I believe that it would get people to be time efficient and goal oriented. Playing for the objectives so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:11 PM
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It's like a fuse... if it runs out, it explodes. Leaving you with nothing, not a 'yes or 'no' option, socials, or a number. You gotta feel the pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:44 PM
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I wouldn’t want to be forced into meeting right away. It doesn’t make sense for me since I prefer to know who I’m meeting, at least one a surface level. What I would find interesting is a maximum time frame of being able to interact with each other, say 30 or 60 min. This weeds out the immature child like people (who are well into their 20s and 30s) who just look for attention and/or are bored. I installed Tinder last night and while I have close to 20 likes and 3 matches right now, I increasing…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:19 PM
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Marriage Yeah, I’m open to it, generally speaing. Kids? Sure, someday. Frequent banging? Definitely important. A hook up? It wouldn’t be my first choice, but if something worthwhile in the long run comes of it, I’m open to it, yeah. Had enough of those, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:41 PM
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What are you looking for? A partner that I'm sufficiently attracted to, both on a physical and interpersonal level. Nothing more, nothing less.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:00 PM
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No. Possibly. No. Possibly. No. No. No. No. No. Possibly. Possibly, leaning towards no, though. Possibly, leaning towards no, though. No. No. If I was able to afford that lifestyle and she performs her duties, yeah. No. Possibly. Possibly, leaning towards no, though. Possibly, leaning towards no, though. Possibly. Possibly, leaning towards no, though. No. No. Possibly, though not ideally. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:58 PM
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1) having the ability to do something but actively choosing not to is different from not/hardly being able to do smth. Most men fall under the latter 2) it’s proven that most people are most fulfilled and happy in a committed and exclusive relationship. Sure, outliers always exist but what I write is statistically significant. There really isn’t more to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:42 PM
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Women don’t have to be proactive. Vetting makes sense if you have serious opportunity costs (i.e. dates with other men) for investing (time, emotional labor, money) into a man. Women are acting economically reasonable. (Top tier) men also vet because the opportunity cost for them is high as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:13 PM
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I've been with women who were able to tell that they have nice & full lips or nice legs. I never got the impression that those women could be aroused by pictures of themselves or their body parts. This is weird if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:25 PM
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Would you rather date an extremely hot woman who posts a lot of provocative photos on social media, or a less attractive woman with zero social media presence? I wouldn't date neither. Both are, in their regards, incompatible with what I seek in a woman. If I'm feeling lonely and/orhorny, I might approach the hot one in order to get her over to my place (for a night). That's as far as it gets with women like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:13 PM
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Your take would be OK if men (humans) were (purely) rational agents. The problem is they aren't. While jerking off in a room and then donating your sperm serves the same purpose as unloading your genetic make-up between a woman's legs, it's not at all the same feeling (of joy & fulfillment). Child-rearing and having a partner is another source of joy & fulfillment that usually doesn't follow from nutting into a sterile cup.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:21 PM
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OF must be banned completely Not how it works. You're making an attempt at banning demand (that is men's desire to see women in 'sprase' clothing). OF is a mirror of the current market conditions which for (most) men, apperently, aren't all that good. They lack intimacy and/or affection, it's obvious. Men who are now on OF will just switch to online cam-girls, h@@kers, possibly corn, and all the other good stuff. Your measure does nothing but change the 'brand' or expression of that lack in men'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:09 PM
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Men like me just fine. If you say so... being fit and attractive pretty isn't everyone fit & attractive on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 02:42 PM
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Looks and sociability trump every other factor. It's very refreshing to see men show both the ability and willingness for introspection on that topic. In a world in which men get increasingly weak and less resilient, the cope seems the prefered 'solution' to this question. Fortunately, not all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 08:18 PM
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Yes. Aditionally, many men tend to exaggerate the importance of wealth as a way to stay motivated. It acts as a coping mechanism. After all, one can work hard, build a high-paying career, and land a prestigious job — but you can’t work your way into having an in-demand genetic makeup. That’s something you’re either born with or you’re not. In an increasingly competitive dating market, this harsh truth would be crushing for most men, which is why so many cling to the religion (+ the corresponding…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 08:16 PM
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But remember that when using a man for money, you will earn every penny with blood, sweat, and tears. Gold digging is not for the weak. You sound like a lovely person. I'm sure men love you!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 08:06 PM
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Bottom line is everyone pays in one way or another: Some with material goods and others in naturalistic forms.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:13 AM
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I’m 25, from a semi-broken family (single mother household). Having had sex with a little less than a handful of fairly attractive women of similar age (never once in a committed & stable relationship), I increasingly get the impression that there’s something psychologically wrong with me. By that I mean that I have real hard time committing (not because of the supposed benefits of “variety”) to someone I feel drawn to. Trust issues, fear of commitment, mood disorders, etc. Like, I’d much rather…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 09:22 PM
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Chances are that the thing you sit in, the room/house you sit in, the device you write from was invented and created by men. If it wasn’t for men, you’d have way less wealth and comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:09 PM
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Why do people think others are their dance monkeys, sitting there with nothing to do but wait for the commands of their ‘masters’?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:13 PM
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Its threads (plural). Search for them yourself. Some are very explicit while others are rather implicit but they are out there, more than enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:15 PM
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There are (were) men here that argued in favor of arranged marriages, marital duties, enforced monogamy, forced relationships, etc. In short, treating women with force and coercion rather than dignity, respect, and sovereignty.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:11 PM
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And the less sophisticated people are being brought to Europe en Masse where they find themselves veery comfortable in their social welfare systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:35 AM
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You’re wrong. I merely referred to empirical data which is ‘wertefrei’. Data can never be racist, anti-Semitic, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:33 AM
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Yeah but it’s unnerving to think that men at their raw base selves always devolve to this unless “socialized.” I don't think this is necessarily true. As I said, I think it's less about being socialization (lack thereof) and moreso about IQ. Check the global IQ map. Then think for yourself in which parts of the world women are being coerced/aggressed against. Tell me if you see a 'reoccoruing pattern'. To see woman (even if they don't wanna fuck) you as rational agents that have a right to their…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:49 PM
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“ She should have been the property of her father until he picked her husband for her”- an alarming rise of reactionary rhetoric in redpill spaces It's bottom of the barrel men. In sophisticated countries (IQ > 90), this will remain an unpleasurable memory of the past, not more, not less.. Men with moral standards that low typically are not (yet) the majority in the Western World. It might be growing, but it's still far from being a real threat to most women in the West. We're talking about a we…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:22 PM
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We got over the coercion threads. Now we’re increasingly telling women how they feel and what they are into. Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:23 AM
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We're talking ofc in the context of the sexual market place. Women, just like men, are after people from the opposite sex that 1) look good and 2) are sane/likable. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 09:44 PM
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Another ‘men are worth the size of their wallet’ post. Pathetic and just devoid of facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 11:08 AM
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If a woman genuinely likes a man, she'll make it easy for him. If water is wet, water will be wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:11 AM
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socialism is any institutional system that violates or restricts private property rights — whether through outright state ownership, redistribution, regulation, or taxation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:31 PM
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And women have traditionally supported coercion in exchange for supposed safety and stability - in a trade-off that is called socialism in parts of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:15 PM
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They're nervous about the possibility of cheating when in a relationship with an attractive man (a man other women demand). Irrational nervousness declines once women more mature into the empiric reality of actual options (cheating included) for most (that is average) men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:22 PM
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How come women dont realize how hard is it for men to get laid ? Saying women don't realize how hard it is for men to get laid is like claiming people don’t know the sun rises in the east. Everyone knows. Women know especially well - after all, they're the ones doing most of the choosing. To believe most women reject this obvious truth is to be willfully ignorant. Go outside. Talk to real people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:01 PM
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Women are turned off by any proactive behaviour by a man two impress or date a woman. They only respond well to naturals Attractive guy --> well-respoding people (opposite sex in particular) --> high confidence --> easy-going/charming/witty --> women feeling the tingles. I mean, no shit someone who's ugly/deformed/below-average look like a clown when he's doing the confident's man (=often attractive) guys routine. It's just weird and women usually know when it's out of place. Each and everyone o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 04:30 PM
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Very, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 04:46 PM
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How are physical traits like e.g. skin color or height not related to genetics?? Are you serious??? What am I reading...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 04:45 PM
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Where I’m from, I suppose we’re a tiny bit less shallow. A single mother even if hot is unable to compete for a hot men. Maybe men here are a tiny bit less desperate also.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 01:49 AM
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Now if the guy is good looking that's a whole different story. But if you're average looking and very rich, you're still below the hot single mom's league. Yup, the supply and demand asymmetry is that severe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 01:31 AM
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Nothing wrong with being choosy. You're doing your self and the man/woman you're with a great disservice by 'setteling' on non-negotiables. I value long term stability and future and I can't build the latter with someone with that kind of Weltanschauung.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 12:48 AM
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Whaaat?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 12:16 AM
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I don't see how that question (answer on my part) would add to that conversation? From what I can tell, we (me and OPs 'friend) are incompatible. I don't date left-wing women unless I see a realistic chance of being able to convince them through logic, reason, and, in the end, argumentation why they're wrong. That requires humility and a little bit of intelligence on their part. Those are hard to get by, especially if you want 'em both.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 12:12 AM
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Quick question do red pillers actually believe that hot women in 30s with kids can't get hvm to wife them up and even play step daddy? There are enough desperate men out there that overblow things turning them into revenge fantasies. I feel this is an incel fantasy that a hot woman who has kids who's hit 30 won't have many great options. I don't believe attractive single moms in their 30s on average land 'great' men. While they can still find decent partners, the competition for high-quality men…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 12:06 AM
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Men not getting matches on dating apps makes sense >> Newsflash << People date who they can. For (most) men, that means a selected few women that are within their reach, their league. For (most) women, that means a large pool of potential mates signing up for a date with her. It's almost as if people, when presented with a greater number of choices, tend to be choosier than those who have only a few choices. Do you think someone choosing between 100 shades of grey for their house facade would de…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 11:52 PM
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Market discipline relies on participants facing consequences through competitive pressure — if you deliver poor quality, people take their business elsewhere, you lose market share, profits, or status.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 11:23 PM
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I meant the latter, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 10:34 PM
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You are trying to sound deep and intellectual while you failed to grasp the essence of my fairly trivial argument. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:28 PM
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Stating that things are "the bare minimum" is just a way to get out of being grateful. Easy solution: You and your friends face women whom you/they deem largely ungrateful? Show them the could shoulder - make them improve (market discipline). Men are complaining about things that are to a large extent within their control...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:14 PM
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In other words “people do as well as they can”. Now, how would’ve guessed that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:40 PM
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Women are gatekeeping both the immediate gratification and the postponed (greater) gratification. Men want women more than women want men in every capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 11:09 AM
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Leagues within dating are only for men In other words... "I know a 6'4 Asian guy named Chan. Therefore, I conclude that most men of Chinese descent are very tall, similar to Chan." Anecdotal evidence > Empirical evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:25 PM
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there will be resentment but we live in the most hedonistic and sedating times in human history, so i highly doubt we will see some sort of incel uprising. granted, more men might opt out of work and society because they don't see a point but the advent of A.I. will make a lot of workers obsolete anyway in the coming decades. Agree with that for the most part. it's not a coincidence that these things are happening on this exact time line. call me a conspiracy theorist but the people in power, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:28 PM
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Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 07:13 PM
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Women here largely act like they are able to get it all - most of them aren’t and I find it hard to believe that the ones that do can - all gather within this sub :) In the real world, it’s important to have some sort of career and finances going for you. Less so about how rich you are. Not having it and not being an independent adult is the issue. Logically speaking, Monetary wealth lost its value with women being able to make their own living, being able to have a bank account of their own, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 07:08 PM
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Main reason =/= causality
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:20 PM
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Why don't men want to date single moms? I refuse to date a single mom under most circumstances. It's just an easy no for me I guess. In other words, I haven’t felt the need to because I was able to compete for the more sought-after types.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:04 PM
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Rarely anyhing in life is certain except for taxes and death. Human action is moreso about odds and liklihoods and less about guaranteed outcomes or results.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:59 PM
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What I want: monogamy/partnership What I expect: physical attractiveness, reasonably sane, a high degree of shared values & goals, similar world view and expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:53 PM
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Do you maliciously withhold compliments from women when out in public? I think withholding compliments is never malicious, even if someone used to give them out regularly. If you see a woman who you think looks particularly nice and you would have normally given her a nice polite compliment... Are you no longer doing that? Why not? What has she done to you? If I see a particularly attractive woman, I’ll just notice it and go about my day. Women of a certain calibre get more than enough of that k…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:37 PM
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I don't necessarily believe them. On average, it's plausible to assume that an attractive, likable and well-rounded woman will find an attractive, likable, and well-rounded man. If a woman (or a man) doesn't find that calibre of partner despite years or even decades of 'looking out' for one, chances are they're not attractive, likable, and well-rounded themselves. That's what I'm saying essentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:18 PM
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Females, you're not single because a lack of quality men. Its because you're not pretty enough to get a rich one. Uurrggh, 'females' - aaaaaaahhh. Rough. It’s not the absence of Audis or Mercedes that keeps me in a Dacia or Hyundai — it’s the absence money in my bank account. "You can ignore reality but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality." I do believe that women, on average, are more suspectible to the above. In the end, it doesn't matter though - reality always collects, ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:11 PM
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That is not an insult. Open the dictionary, look up ‘insult’.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:25 PM
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Quote me on the part where I insulted you. Also: "Any man who must say 'I am the king' is no true king" — Tywin Lannister Anyway, you go-girl. You know everything and on top of that, you’re outclassing Monica Bellucci in the looks department.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:14 PM
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You lack basic comprehension related to economics. If you want to learn a little something, watch this: https://youtu.be/YrYM7_6atNc?si=9S0IZC7eX4h33FWc Else, good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:07 PM
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Men get incredibly outraged when they get reminded that they are not as tall as they think they are. Recently, I came across a video on social media that used AI to show how tall men would look like if they didn’t wear insoles or outright lie about their height in your face….
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:00 PM
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Well, then you must be into women. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:56 PM
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Who’s going to determine the price of the new Mercedes EQS? Right, the potential buyers (customers). If you’re a heterosexual woman, men determine your market value as far as beauty concerns. Self-explanatory really.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:53 PM
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Oh, absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:10 AM
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Essentially, you're very much with me in that there really is no alternative to a free (dating) market within sophisticated civilizations and communities. To propose any ( by necessity: coercive) alternative—even subtly—is to reject what makes us humans, reducing us to the level of animals: slaves to primal urges, devoid of morality and reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:19 PM
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??
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 05:48 PM
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@your last part I understand the objective but wonder whether the results justify the efforts. In any case, it’s a noble thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:21 PM
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You sound very frustrated with men today. Don't take it the wrong way but maybe consider breaking out of the PPD bubble for a while. It really is a once in a week sub if you don't have vested interest to understand this or that about the opposite sex or if you been there already. This applies for men and women alike btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 04:47 PM
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Men on reddit lie about their boob size preferences the same way women lie about their dick size preferences. Why are people so keen on randoms voicing and stating their preferences with 100% honesty? Is there a new sexual fetish on the rise that is about exposing (what may or may not be) lies related to intersex preferences? Wouldn't it be most efficient to just google a study (or multiple studies) that deals with the topic to get a rule of thumb, a majority preference or opinion on a particula…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:02 PM
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Thank you for your input.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:30 PM
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I see, you're uncomfortable dealing with reality. Sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:29 PM
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I also had serious 1 on 1 convos with them and I know that what they actually want in a girlfriend is way less shallow then what they would say in the bar in the group talk. People want both, it's not an a) or b) type of deal. People, myself included, want both. Men (most of them at least) won't date an insufferable bitch that is pretty just to sleep with her every now and then. Men neither won't date an ugly woman with heart made of gold. Typically, both sexes demand both. PS: Wanting a woman w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:13 PM
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Oh so you just go to a bar and meet strangers that look like Henry Cavill? By math, every once in a while you run into people of that calibre. You just gotta enter enough bars I guess. Like “yeah she’s hot, she has great tits” and they do talk only like that in a group, but the individual men are often pretty decent and not that shallow at all? Locker room talk (men talk in general) is indeed rather superficial and looks-oriented. Nice set of titts sits better with gym people than e.g. warm deme…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 11:37 AM
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Again, I'm not trying to berate or belittle you or women's sexuality as a whole. I just voice skepticism with the general validity of your claim - that's all. I'm from a Western country and have just short of a handful of (very middle-class) women friends and aquintances and they do not seem to share your sentiment. They've shown to be able to feel immediate sexual attraction towards strangers who were there type which contradicts your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 11:11 AM
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While I find your personal opinion on this subject very interesting I don’t think it’s representative at all. When I say attractive, I mean sexually compatible. Women (correct me if I’m wrong, women) don’t look at exceptionally attractive men and think of them as cold statues that look aesthetically pleasing but don’t do nothing for them sexually. Instead, what I would imagine is “yeah, wouldn’t it be nice if that Chris Hemsworth guy made me carry his children”. Or “damn, he such nice hands with…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 10:57 AM
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In order to be confrontational (be it physically or intellectually), one had to have a certain level of self reliance that made violence or being ousted from the tribe an option that didn't mean certain death. Women, unlike most men, didn't had those resilient bodies which is why their behavior and actions blended in with that of the broad mass of the tribe. In short, women who weren't able to keep their mouth shut didn't really make it into today’s gene pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 10:42 AM
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Good luck getting them to admit that they are actually picky. What's with this strong desire of getting them to admit? Why? What do YOU gain out of that? Just as women are encouraged by nature to be very selective when it comes to reproduction, they are incentivized to say what is conducive to peace in the community regardless of it being the truth or deception, that's not the point. Instead of obsessing over what they say, how about we observe empirical data and go from there? Wouldn't that be …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 10:10 AM
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Thanks, Pajeet. May you enjoy your divine cow shower, that is if you do shower.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 09:52 AM
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If youre saying white people outperform non white people in the west, yes, its a natural consequence of white people being the vast majority. Not something to fall under objective beauty, though. Just a matter of numbers. I mean people can always cope - fine by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 09:49 AM
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I'm glad that you like my takes "sometimes". As for the rest: English is a my third language and where I'm from, I only get to type it every now and then (Reddit and Twitter mostly). If it's the content and less so the writing that strikes you as odd, then I can't really say much except for different people have different thoughts and preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 09:43 AM
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Clarification Precisely the same as the aforementioned traits and qualities which you seem to have understood and digsted just fine. This is essentially what I mean. Beauty is subjective but its not "somebody's 10 will be somebodys 4, somebodys 4 will be somebodys 10" the margins are thinner. What you're saying then is that beauty, the large chunk of it, is objective which is agreeing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 09:41 AM
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True, beauty is subjective within objective parameters. Beauty is largely objective - period. Large hands beat small hands in men. Broad shoulders beat narrow shoulders in men. Whites beat people from the sub-continent. C cups beat A cups in women. Relatively long legs in women beat short legs in women. Subjective opinions only really enter the equation when you discuss Monica Bellucci vs Sophia Loren or Brad Pitt vs Pierce Brosnan. everyone man or woman should worship their body and do it right…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 09:35 AM
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Admitting something I have noticed as a woman myself: Many women take it really personally and get annoyed if an attractive man ends up dating someone below his "league" looks wise. Is it the same for men? I'm very Libertarian and therefore don't really mind who people associate themselves with. The only thing I've caught myself doing recently is being annoyed that Monica Bellucci had a child with the French actor who wasn't quite at her level, to put it diplomatically. Although I think I'm less…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 08:55 AM
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Women are just picky and they have their own specific looks preferences The truth is, most people have pretty similar tastes when it comes to physical attraction. The vast majority of men would agree that someone like Monica Bellucci is absolutely stunning. Similarly, most women would probably say that Henry Cavill is incredibly attractive. If there weren’t some kind of broad consensus about what’s considered appealing in the opposite sex, modeling as a profession wouldn’t be nearly as profitabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 08:48 AM
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Prostitution, even if consensual and legal, treats human beings as interchangeable instruments rather than dignified, autonomous ends in themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:42 PM
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It’s low a low intelligence discussion in and of itself. It’s akin to getting politicians to admit that they do love and are primarily in politics to be on the receiving end of taxation for themselves and their family. That the vast majority of people don’t really concern them as much. If you want the truth, watch what people do and not what they say. 10 years ago, men were very insecure about their lack of height, especially on Reddit and similar platforms. A majority of men and women addressin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:36 PM
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I feel compelled to share the following quote from German philosopher Immanuel Kant: "Treat people as an end, and never as a means to an end." — Immanuel Kant
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:13 PM
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I was about to write something along the lines of this. This is great. It’s like wearing insoles if you’re being a short guy. Once they come off, the illusion bursts into harsh reality. It’s lying and ultimately disrespecting yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:55 PM
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Hahahahaahaha. Good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 09:12 PM
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Neither can a woman control if she's psycho (e.g. bipolar) or victim to a rapist. It's sheer luck (or lack thereof). Don't get me wrong, my heart goes out to people like that but I won't go near that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:14 PM
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baggage what 'baggage' means in the context of dating to me and my social circle: miscarriage, hates her dad, r@pe victim, clinically crazy (biplor, borderline, and all the other good stuff), numerous failed relationships, bad with money, etc. Thinking about it, 'baggage' to me are complicated life circumstances. The above are from the top of my head. Obviously, there are more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:05 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:49 PM
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I think waiting till you think a woman likes you is a terrible idea! I'm receptive for signs; if I don't get them, I'll walk-that's all. You might miss so many cues that way I think I'm reasonably aware of cues. I ask guys out all the time and I would never wait till I think they are into me. Most of the time I get rejected, but taking that personally is the root of so many problems on this forum. If that works for you, then I'm happy for you. Personally, asking someone out with each changing mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:19 PM
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I last asked out a woman 3-4 years ago. It takes a coincidence of two (I find her attractive and likable and so does she) which is fairly unlikely. Personally, I don’t believe in asking every other woman out but men will do what works best for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:56 PM
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Creep = short and/or (below) average looking guy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:53 PM
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Male desperation is what reinforces and in many cases, creates female delusion in the dating world Now who would've guessed that... Rest assured that I have read every letter of your insightful and original post.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:58 PM
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rejection by women when he doesn’t have the coping skills to process it in a healthy way. I mean, I don't think there's a healthy (reaction to a) rejection. If a woman rejects you, she's essentially saying "your genetic make up is not worth the effort and/or should not remain in the gene pool". I don't think a man is supposed to be happy or neutral upon receiving that message. It's a critical warning, especially if those are the vast majority of reactions. I grew up without a dad and found great…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:23 PM
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Age gaps are only hated by jaded women and have not young men (besides fathers). I think "hate" is a very strong word. Most people don't hate a circumstance which barely affects them, especially if it's an exception. Personally, I (m/20s) am all for adults being free to choose. Do I think it's sustainable and worth an (emotional/temporal/financial) investment? Nope. Would I advise my (hypothetical) daughter or female/male friends against it if asked for advice? Absolutely, yeah. Ultimately, adul…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:06 PM
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I’ve been documenting her BS, but I’m not sure if the work council and HR department of the corporation are really helpful. In the few years I’ve worked there, I quickly learned that those two departments are primarily pro forma and not actually interested in making their company a better workplace (high fluctuation rate). “Take the (good) corporate check or fuck off” vibes. Where I’m from, I can fight it with going to the doc and sitting at home while getting paid in full. Realistically, this i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 08:22 AM
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While I 100% agree that man of a certain socioeconomic status and age tend to behave that way, women increasingly compete for that weird and often just plain inappropriate behavior with younger male colleagues. A few weeks ago a female colleague (also married) who is 25 years my senior asked me to drop her off on my way home. I agreed (reluctantly). She talked about sex related topics for the for the entirety of the ride and all I did was nod (unenthusiastically) or throw in an occasional “ok”. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:23 AM
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It take two to tango. By logic, you should regard and hold accountable both of your parents if they failed at your upbringing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 09:30 PM
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Let's be real here. A great majority of men also are of the opinion that a good amount of women are crazy (or 'neurodivergent' politely put). If it wasn't for the inherent attraction between the sexes that acts as an incentive to reproduce, I don't think men and women would get along very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 09:24 PM
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Women using dating apps as a marking strategy is pretty clever. That just another outgrowth of the much discussed supply and demand assymetry between the sexes. Booooooooring.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 09:18 PM
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Women who become single mothers have their Sexual Market Value reduced Wouldnt it then follow that the existence of single mothers allows men who are not in those 20% to mate with a woman who would, if not for her single motherhood, be way above his league, looks wise, since being a single mother is one of the few ways to theoretically reduce a woman's sexual market value that isnt related to becoming less beautiful. Careful here. Their sexual market value is not reduced because they have one, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 09:00 PM
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I doubt anyone has the precise stats Read: The books of numbers - aaron clarey. the point is advising an average man to never approach is extremely detrimental. Oh, yeah I don't think so. If I had a son and he's plain average, I would advise him against approaching women. He'll piss away his finite time and energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:47 PM
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Men, listen up: this is good quality advice here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:44 PM
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There is no good Bluepill Dating Manual. Of course. Bluepill related qualities are not what most women demand in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:37 PM
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Men (wrongly so) believe that women and men are much different. Like us, they greatly prefer socially competent & handsome people from the opposite sex. If this is not you, chances are you won't have success. There's nothing groundbreaking about this. but do not approach unless you're better than 90% of men. Minimum. Yeah, this I don't agree with. If you know your level and at least beat 7/10 men (top 70%), you'll eventually get the objective done. 6 and less is where the juice likely is not wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:35 PM
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Nope, it's roughly 95% that have to be pro-active.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:32 PM
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People who think two parent household automatically means a good one are very naive. I discussed this earlier today... There are a few things which are absolutely true. E.g. 2 plus 2 equals 4, always. A two parent household doesn't automatically imply superior upbringing but relative to other forms of family structure, it's vastly superior. What dose this mean? Most (though certainly not all) two parent households produce relatively well-off (in every sense of the word) humans. In other words, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 08:41 PM
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You don't have news for me at all. Most men are not black pill losers who obssess about the fact that their genetic make up is not competitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 05:51 PM
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that men make such generalizations knowing there are a lot of exceptions again, by definition, generalizations imply exceptions. You can not be a functioning adult stating generalizations but thinking of them as absolute correct statements. You'd barely be able to write your name correctly with that level of intellect. Such men usually say very misogynistic things about women as a group, not as individuals. They say, for example, "women have no heart" and if you ask if he's talking about some wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 03:40 PM
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"women don't approach men" Well, it is true, generally speaking. One has to be an absolute moron to think this is true in EVERY case, it obviously isn't. Though majority of cases, it absolutely is. You're basically saying that people shouldn't claim things like... Whites are taller than Asians (because you know a man named Zhang who is 6'4). This is, of course, stupid. Men are stronger than women (because you know a woman who is an extreme power lifter). This, too, is stupid. I know it's hard to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 03:21 PM
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They say control the controllables and when it is so easy to do, why leave it to chance? When it's so easy to control, why make the thread and cry about it? It might not be all that easy, no? Take another look at the comment section apparently it is not that evident to people in the comment section here. We must read different threads. I see mostly agreement and a positve upvote ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 01:12 PM
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But I had to go through a lot to keep myself sane So had I - some will make it, other won't. That's nature... So I am just trying to tell what I learnt It's like saying walking is harder when you're born with just one leg. It's not like peeps don't know this, especially with in a 'specialized' sub like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:36 PM
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That is worthy of being bookmarked, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:02 PM
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The real world is vicious, unempathetic, and hyper-competitive, and for men, it’s always a case of survival of the fittest. This isn’t true for women in the same way. However, these women, unaware of how the male world operates, raise their children—especially boys—as if they were girls. True, but nowadays we (single mother man if you will) have YouTube. If you're not a complete loser in a state of constant victimhood, there are ways to change and also men who can show you the directions in whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 10:59 PM
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This is a logical fallacy. Acquiring and talent together doesn’t make sense. Talent, by its text book definition is innate… It’s like saying out loud: “I’m unable to speak English” Doesn’t make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:43 AM
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What’s the conclusion then if most men are in a constant state of “starvation”? You literally affirmed my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:33 AM
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Nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:28 AM
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To most men, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:23 AM
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No one is entitled to anyone’s body, their labor, or the fruits of that labor, absent consent. You’re absolutely correct of course but it’s hard to digest because people are evil and/or stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 11:43 PM
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Status comes from achieving things that take ambition, skill, talent, and charisma, and which inevitably lead you to lots of social connections and admiration for your accomplishments. Such as being a big fish investment banker at Wells Fargo?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 11:01 PM
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This isn’t about sales. Daring or mating markets are, well, markets. Whether you like that or not is irrelevant but it’s true nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:50 PM
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Nope, I’m saying men should embrace the free market and do what they can with the guide lines I laid out. If that is not enough, I’d suggest them to give up in order to preserve their precious sanity and time. Some men will argue that a 1/100 or 1/1000 chance is worth the ROI as a subpar man (by woman’s standard) and if they really believe that, they should go down that path. Also, bashing women for having choices and naturally doing the best as they can (as do men) is harmful, more so for men t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:48 PM
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Oh, the vast majority of them absolutely do have that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:42 PM
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Status is NOT the most important attribute. A 5’8, mid face, chubby, bald, senior investment banker who makes $600,000 working at Wells Fargo does NOT outcompete a 6’2 handsome, full hair of hair, barista who makes $60,000. In the Western world, there is a huge diminishing return on money/wealth (Menger’s law of diminishing marginal utility). The most scarce and therefore sought after “good” are superior genes in (relatively) wealthy societies where survival is not a relevant variable. You can w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:37 PM
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Absolutely not. I’m not into men, not in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:20 PM
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It’s not realistic and toxic becauses soyboys don’t take reality all that well
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:12 AM
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There is no virtue in being a hot man. It’s genetic. There’s no reason to look up to someone because of sheer luck, that is nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:11 AM
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Personally, I think women getting wet down there at the sight of a man isn’t a necessary requirement in order to be an alpha male but I can definitely see why other people would think otherwise. In my opinion, an alpha male is someone that you can look up to because of their work ethic, morals, approach to life, fight for truth & beauty, etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 12:46 AM
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They don’t debate whether they want to be productive or not but my key thesis which I presented at the TL;DR.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 08:50 PM
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You’re so overconfident yet the described effect is minimal in most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 08:47 PM
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Piss poor comment without substance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 08:25 PM
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Oh, yeah? Why do I then need to debate every second guy here who claim that what I wrote isn't accurate?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:26 PM
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Research aren't gonna help those people. Because google isn't gonna make them realize that they need to actually talk to people. You're mixing taking action and being ready to take action. An undesirable should not take action if he values ROI on his time. And the average person already know what the opposite wants, because it doesn't differ from men to women. Of course it differs to some degree. Men don't really value profession/wealth nearly as much as do women. Women care about shoulder width…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:15 PM
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A society in which the individual is the focus instead of the collective wouldn't have roads let alone laws. Yeah, really? What's the difference between private cooperations making houses vs them making roads. Laws aren't made, they're discovered and not nearly of the size as they are now. I think that what you mean by a "free" market is a market that makes exceptions that you agree with instead of exceptions that you don't agree with. The market is free and unless you start making clear argumen…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:08 PM
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Again, absoultely.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:03 PM
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Aside from disagreeing with me, you don't understand me either, even though you insist that you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:50 PM
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Yeah, what value? What do the men of China, except for producing goods in massive amounts, provide you in value? Eager to hear your response.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:21 PM
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That's a very healthy pov if that works for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:20 PM
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What value does a woman get out of a man that is not her partner, friend, or family? It's mostly labor. Her doctor may be a man or the cashier at costco. It's not reductionist, it's reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:16 PM
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If Nvidia sells their top of the line Video Card for $2500 and people buy it, then it's fairly priced. If you offer something that people do NOT buy or pick up on, e.g. a piece of shit car from the 90s for $60,000, then it's overpriced.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:14 PM
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Your post is good, but it's like preaching the merits of capitalism to commies. Thanks. I'll be spreading the message and it's a success if I can convert even 1/10 commies to capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:12 PM
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I'm not telling men to give up, absolutely not. I suggest men to do the research, the work and then present themselves. (close to zero) results? Do something else if you want to maintain sanity. Results? Good for, keep grinding. Where I'm from, 5'5, balding, and non white is just not competitive. Competition various depending on geography.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:09 PM
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Profit as in results.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:06 PM
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You're right but I'm saying that by going to the gym, they are more pleasing and impressing men (regardless of what physique they achieved) than women. Women mostly care about face and height.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:05 PM
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Relationships are related to property rights. Body and ownership is rather straight-forward. How are the costs and revenues of relationships calculated? How is this related to the soundness of my argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:03 PM
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You don't seem to understand. Women, unlike men, have a value that is not associated with wealth creation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:02 PM
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The vast majority of men in the gym are there to please women aesthetically.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:00 PM
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Yes, this insight is very much in line with what I have just written.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:59 PM
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Working on our environment instead of ourselves is a huge part of why humans are so ridiculously successful as a specie. Nope. The most succesful socities are those in which the individual is the focus, not the collective. History is evidently clear about this. We don't live in a free market. The dating market is a free market unless you're writing this from a shithole like Afghanistan. If you're a Brit, German, or American, you're delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:56 PM
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3/10 women exist and hey can get men unlike like their male equivalents. This doens't change anything, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:53 PM
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Right, not against all that. You're free to do whatever you want. I'm merely asking the question if complaining is serving oneself well - that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:48 PM
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Women most likely don't want to see you dead. Unattractive men, even if they are not suitable for sexual pleasure or long-term relationships, contribute to GDP, i.e. wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:46 PM
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I don't know any guys who are 5'6 balding and not attractive with below average jobs who want a super hot woman. Never met any, ever. So lets move on from that. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that a man with the above attributes can expect to get nothing in competitive market environments such as the US or Europe. People are not entitled to other people just because they exist. It's a fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:44 PM
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You don't even have to do any research. Almost everyone already know what people look for. I don't think so. There are men who get very muscular thinking that's what women, on average, demand body wise. It's not. There are women who overdo it with some cosmetic procedures (boobs or lips size come into mind) thinking that's what men demand in women. The average person has a rough idea of what it is that the opposite sex wants but they don't care enough to do careful and percise research and the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:42 PM
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Dating apps aren’t “made” to “make sure men struggle”. Dating apps were made because it (was) is a big business opportunity. This, that’s it. To add anything but that is redundant and often also just stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 12:40 PM
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It's not that you don't need intelligence to amass goods & services but it's that the market is saturated. Unless you're piss poor and close to starving to death which the vast majority of people aren't, looks matter most as they are the most scarce and sought after good. You can work towards food, shelter, etc. but you can not work towards a superior genetic make up. It's there or it isn't, nature essentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 10:17 PM
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Generally speaking, intelligence is nothing but a proxy for socio-economic status...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 09:34 PM
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Ok, yeah, but where did I ever disagree with that? Men and women alike select for physical fitness first and foremost. it's the most scarce ressource/good which is why it's valued the highest. You can work towards a well-paid career, but you can't work towards a high-tier genetic make-up. People know this (at least subconsciously).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 05:05 PM
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The tall good looking realtor with an average income is who is having the most success. Of course. I was always refering to that group of men. Can you quote me on anything that even suggests that I meant any group of men but the one you (correctly) named?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 01:09 PM
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But men are overwhelmingly the gatekeepers to commitment and long-term investment. Nope. Men want long-term/committed relationships more so than women. If high-value men (and even men with decent options) collectively raise their standards for commitment, it shifts the incentive structure. High value men are raising their standards (always have). Why? Because they can. So yes, women have leverage in some areas. But men aren’t powerless. I didn't claim that men were powerless. It's just that they…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 09:07 PM
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Why raising men’s standards could change dating for everyone Well, it's just not the way most men are wired by default, that is nature. Crocodiles (by design) are ambush predators and will try to kill anyting in their sight. That's just the way those animals are. Therefore, they'll never be human pets. Men will always have a higher time preference than women in the dating economy. Everything about their biology and that of women's makes this inherent difference in time prefernce inevitable. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 08:36 PM
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Being able to have sex at any time is still a privilege. No fucking shit, sherlock.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 06:48 PM
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The average woman today is more privileged than the average man. Struggle olympics take 875028345029385230. Yes, women generally have it easier than men. Yes, men on average are stronger than women. Yes, Whites are on average taller than Asians. The world is inherently unfair, and as it stands at the moment, people are not trying to make it fairer, in fact, the opposite is the case. Want results? Outcompete your competetiors (other men), make yourself competitive. Can't or don't want to do that?…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 09:59 PM
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You’re right generally speaking. Eventually, most men would find someone for themselves granted that they are visible (social circle/apps). It’s just an increasingly poor choice to do that from a ROI. Fighting your hardest for scraps (economically speaking, no value judgement) just isn’t all that exciting or inspiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 06:45 PM
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Agree - OP has a very poor world view/perception of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:58 PM
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Men need more than women to "choose better" TL;DR Men (the great majority of them) don't choose - they accept or refuse advances (depending on the man, they also go unnoticed). That's it. Therefore, what you have written, at least in the words you have chosen, makes no sense. Women choose, always have, still do, and always will.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:57 PM
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A rational market participant would realize that his idea to obliterate/kill the "current market" and replace it for a "new" is futile. You're not ever going to achieve that and if you are, there'll be consequences. Angry men = uncompetitive men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:44 PM
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I reject the idea the dating is a "competition" in such a literal sense Congratulations: you are fundamentally wrong in this matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 08:30 PM
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Unattractive men = uncompetitive men. Who (generally speaking) outcompetes bottom of the barrel or lower tier men? Is it... a) "other men" or... b) "women" First principles...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 08:22 PM
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You compete with other men for women - period. Not with other women (generally speaking). If you (or anyone else for that matter) negates this fact, they're, by definition, delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 08:11 PM
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Why are some men hateful of women when other men are their biggest competitors? Why do people believe that humans, generally speaking, are rational market participants? People, particularly in a state of anger and/or anxiousness/insecurity, become irrational. You see that in the stock market, at the workplace, in the shopping mall, everywhere. Women are not your opposition in anyway, other men are your main competitors and your goal should be to become better than them, do other men agree with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 08:09 PM
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I have never thought of watching it, let alone watched it. It does close to nothing for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 03:26 PM
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If a woman rejects me for proposing a first coffee date, then that's very much in my interest. She's basically telling me "look, I'm of the batshit crazy breed, don't date or stick your dick in me". It's an act of kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:32 PM
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Bad boy = attractive appearance, unattractive/abusive behavior I don't think they 'love' 'em but like men they're just humans with needs and desires which is why these men get regularly play regardless of moral character. They'd love 'em if they had the desired character and (long term) intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:23 PM
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Brootal cope-killer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 04:25 PM
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ofc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 10:29 PM
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The same Dan who is a senior accountant, who gives people orders, can pay for stuff and looks good in a suit, will be a lot more attractive to women who are 25+ than the batista who follows orders and is always broke. Yeah, it's the suit that makes the man and not the man that makes the suit. My bad. 5'8 mid Bob would be a pussy whisperer if only he gets himself a Tom Ford Suit. Dan, then, can not compete with Bob anymore. At least not if the target group are +25 yo women because their (supposed…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:05 PM
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Not so much on case of attraction. Women get hot for men of higher status who are strong and charming. Women's porn is more text based for that reason, e.g., Fifty Shades, and men's are more visual. By that logic, women would prefer 5'8 Bob, mid face, senior accountant, born to a upper middle class family over 6'2 Dan, good face, barista, born to a working class family. Dan get's women's attention, not Bob. Women, like men, go for looks first and foremost. No, I don't want people to comment unle…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 04:49 PM
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Ah, the radical and ruinous ideas of the Frankfurt School...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 04:40 PM
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However women's attraction takes into account personality and status. Well, men (atleast those who can afford) also take into account personality and status (= social class). However, taking into account and prioritizing is not the same. Women and men prefer attractive people from the opposite sex first and foremost. All else is secondary at best. Also, kindly provide a TL;DR.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 04:34 PM
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Consuming money = better for economy is a double digit IQ keynsian belief. Not at all related to Ancap/Austrian economics. Goes to show how much of a sophisticated economist is on the other end of the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:44 PM
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It doesn't matter what you call it. Oh, it does matter. If you call a bachelor someone who is married with 2 kids, I can't reason with you. Definitions are there to make human interaction and cooperation efficient. If you're a hot woman you'll get plenty of interest regardless, and with a piercing or tattoo she might even have the advantage of filtering out close minded dudes. Yeah, the man with disks in their ears and septum piercings are definitely in higher demand than the traditionally good-…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:27 PM
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Enjoy! Women on meds are fiiiiiiiiire.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:23 PM
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To say that every woman with a tattoo and a piercing is “alternative” completely misses the point. If something approaches normality, then by definition it cannot be described as alternative. That's like saying CNN is alternative when in actuality it's main stream.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:19 PM
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I wasn't talking most people. I was explicitly referring to above-average women (who are a minority by definition of the word).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:03 PM
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struck some nerves, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:00 PM
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You know some women do it in part to filter out certain people? And trust you me, they are VERY succesful at doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:00 PM
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ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:49 PM
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A few seconds ago? How do people calculate time in your country? On my Reddit app, it says posted half an hour ago. I could've prefaced this with a "genereally speaking" but I thought it would be common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:42 PM
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1. Sherlock Holmes. 2. Is a little more nuanced. She could find you attractive but went through (quite) a bit of trial and error when pursuing a ltr and realized that putting out first date isn't the play.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:38 PM
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It can look good on the belly button, but only if you have a good/attractive belly area to begin with. Less is more, trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:35 PM
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I don't think I ever exchanged a word with a woman who has a septum or excessive/trashy tattoos. It's probably related to socio-economic standing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:23 PM
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You're probably not all that attractive in the first place... Go knock yourself up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:17 PM
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Dear attractive women, would you please stop mutilating your bodies with tattoos and piercings? Girls, Please Stop Mutilating Your Bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:09 PM
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Just look up the stats…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:46 PM
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Hello, giraffe 🦒
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 05:33 PM
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It’s in of those takes where people think their take is of rationalist nature when it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 09:03 PM
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Looks actually moderately correlate with competence (IQ). The low IQ chad phenomena who gets to spread his seed happens but noch as much as most men think it does. Women are increasingly aware that it takes capital to raise a good family, especially in this economy. Physical fitness still trumps everything (as it is the most scarce quality) but competence is definitely selected for and considered “sexy”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:27 PM
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It’At least it’s better for children and the aforementioned top men. Nature intended women to be choosy. It ensures that the quality of the gene pool maintains a certain quality. If retards and losers were able bred left and right, it would definitely be a tax on our prosperity and possibly also on security.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:18 PM
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Depends whether you are what women look for in men or not. Are you? Consumer Are you not? Product
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:15 PM
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The more competitive a market, the better for its consumers. The idea that competition is bad is a socialist fairytale.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:07 PM
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Yeah, as a gemini man myself I also encountered this craziness and just stupid discrimination. Here’s what I did: Short term? You lie to get box. Long term? Go next. She’s is not right in the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:55 AM
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I always prefered the elegant approach to clothing. I don't need to be teased with excessive cleavage or very short skirts to like a woman. In fact, it diminishes her worth in my mind because that screams Insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:40 PM
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It's one big circle jerk. I'm not even sure that they themselves really believe what they're writing a lot of the times. Women have a comparatively greater need to pretend to be noble and selfless. It's a biological impulse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:33 PM
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Very few people out there actually want an "equal partner " People say otherwise to come across as noble, but it's human nature to want better and more, irrespective if they themselves can pull their weight. I'm pretty sure both men and women consistently go after people of the opposite sex, that by most objective standards, do/are better than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:26 PM
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Lol, it's honestly sad that you think that makes them more productive Are you for real? If so, then you are economically illiterate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:55 AM
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They're not <image> Say what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:04 AM
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I think we're on the same page for the most part. Societies at that time were generally more primitive, so it is logical to deduce that the motives for sex were primitive for most people. However, economic value to sex and having kids developed around that time as smart people realized the value in small hildren NOW as compared to hunter-gatherer societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:33 AM
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Restricting economic growth And how exactly would limiting the production of goods and services benefit us? taxing the rich to pay for the elderly is probably what is necessary The rich are the most productive members of society. Taxing them to the hilt would result in them restricting or withholding their labor entirely which is not what we want. Moreover, do "the rich" also create jobs so that people can be productive in ways they wouldn't have been without the work environment offered by "the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:23 AM
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The vast majority of people throughout history had kids simply because they had sex and kids were the result. No, long before Christ was born, people were having children for financial reasons as well as sexual ones. In the days of agriculture, child laborers had a calculated value. When people began to add to (produce) the environment (agriculture), as opposed to living parastic lives (consumption-only -> Hunter-gatherer societies), they had a lot more work to do, which encouraged them to have …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:06 AM
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I think that's a very sophisticated take in that it stresses the inherent selfishness of humans and how important incentive-structures are to human action (or lack thereof). People had kids when state-wide pensions were the exception rather than the rule. Nowadays, where state-wide pensions are the rule rather than the exception, people approach life through a more hedonistc lense and don't have as much kids and instead enjoy themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:33 AM
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Would you kindly provide a TL;DR? It doesn't have to be just one sentence, but I'm not going to read through it all. I've heard enough of these doomsday scenarios, and they're rarely original, let alone worthwhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:47 AM
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No, you didn't. Especially ones That's not a direct accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:43 AM
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I mean personally I've never found white men attractive anyway and will be loud and proud about it lol. Calling the cops on you because how dare you!? Especially ones who have this weird constant need to try to convince people they aren't racist(the ones who do this likely are btw) I really don't care if you covertly accuse me of one of the popular -isms. It doesn't bother me at all. You might as well say it loud and clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:40 AM
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People who have a gaggle of kids and absolutely insist on dating someone with no kids baffle me. Like sir or madam, be serious. Oh, yeah. It's a classic:
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 11:41 PM
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I’m down for sharing nudes but I have no tattoos, off label piercings, or any other easily identifiable features and have never included my face. I'm afraid my Catholic upbringing shines through. I just feel uncomfortable knowing that I'm not in ctrl or at another person's mercy/decency. Maybe that's sick. Also, the idea of someone I'm not interacting with anymore (for whatever) reason, has a picture of my dick in her gallery weirds me out. It's just not me I guess. Unsurpringly, I'm less Cathol…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 11:27 PM
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I asked for a picture (loool). We were getting hot over text. Yes, I plead guilty. Not the fairest thing to decline her after that but I reassured her that I'd treat the pictures discretely and I did which I don't think is the standard in todays world. Human decency is becoming increasingly scarce. That’s like asking a woman’s cup size Really? I wouldn't equate a unverifiable information with a explicit picture. More like, if you tell me your cup size, I can tell you what's going on down there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 11:12 PM
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Aaaah, so that was what she was after. I didn't sent her anything because I don't sent (semi) nudes pics (period) but f@ck was I tempted with that gal. She was suuuuper open before that, not so much after I displayed the reluctancy there. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:51 PM
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q4w: Dan (your ideal age, therefore controlled for trait) face: 8/10 height: 6'2 weight: 220 lbs (fit) personality: extrovert and (over) confident income/occupation: $55,000 (barista) IQ: 91 hobbies: gym rat, cars, UFC fighting, tattoos ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob (your ideal age, therefore controlled for trait) face: 5/10 height: 5'9 weight: 180 lbs (chubby) personality: introvert, shy & timid income/occupation: $115,000 (senior a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:45 PM
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How ugly? Do you choke at the thought of having to undress in front of him? Go next. Do you think you can work it if he's (genuinely) nice and interests, etc . align? Cautiosly proceed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:24 PM
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Keep seething.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:21 PM
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The guilt-tripping doesn't make logical sense but then again, most lefties don't (otherwise they wouldn't be lefties). We discriminate against inherent human genetic qualities of all sorts (height, facial bones, smell, etc), but if we do it for race, it's ouragoues? Make it make sense, please. I only date and have sex with White women and it will remain this way until I can't get it up anymore. Again, everyone's entitled to have preferences and my happen to be White women among others :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:01 PM
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I think it's fairly likely that he's quite above average in intelligence given that cv. This is an important quality in a world in which it is becoming increasingly difficult to support oneself and by implication also others. If he's average looking on top of all that, he can be with a upper middle class plane jane most likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:47 PM
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5'9 in most of Europe is definitely considered sub-par I don't know how bad it is in say NYC or LA. Other than that, you're an over-achiever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:39 PM
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don't hold your breath?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:38 PM
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Like, what's your purpose? What do you want to accomplish with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:38 PM
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Hands aren't too weird. Eventually, you'll insert them in their privates.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:36 PM
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What are The weirdest dating preferences that you've heard from any gender ? I had a fairly attractive woman asking for a picture of my belly button....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:20 PM
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My bf also really likes doggy This is too innocent, lmao. I guarantee you, EVERY man ever likes doggy. The moment he doens't like doggy, you gotta book an appointment with the doctor. So, MY man likes doggy.... Things like this put a smile on our face. It's wonderful. XD
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 08:57 PM
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Yeah, it's definitely less the physical aspect and more so the view, noises, and enjoyment that women get out of it that are enjoyable to men. It was very surprising the first time you encounter it. You don't typically see this in porn where scenes are almost exclusively shot for their majority customers aka men. But yeah, PIV is where it's at, almost always.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 08:32 PM
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Yes, just because I was surprised/caught off-guard, it automatically means that I don't women to have their fun while making out. Very well concluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 08:04 PM
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I mean, it was aight, desire/enjoyment in her eyes, noises, and danggeling tits are ceratinly not the worst but prefer PIV over those movements.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 08:01 PM
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I don't think the women of the night include this experience in their (standard) service.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 08:00 PM
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<image> Q4M: Can anyone relate to this, especially at their first time? My expression must've been similar to his, perhaps even more shocked, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:53 PM
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I’m 4’10” ackshually and I’m already “rich” by average people standards. I’m not Bezos rich by any stretch but who cares. I make more than enough money to not have to give a shit what reddit freakazoids think beyond killing time some evenings. Now it becomes clear as day. Wonderful, just wonderful. It’s never the Chads who lash out at women, never. I really do wonder why that is??? 🤔 Of course a 4’10 “man” (lmfao) goes on to say (cope) that when your dick is between a woman’s legs, it doesn’t ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 12:52 PM
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I don’t “shoot my shot” unless a woman wants me to shoot. What do I mean by that? I believe that women choose, generally speaking. Means that I’ll never approach until I receive an ioi. Of course, I also need to feel attracted to her in order to then walk up and introduce myself. A coincidence of two is needed. That’s why I don’t “shoot” very often. I believe men who do the real first step (approach without ioi) are pissing away their time frankly speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:19 AM
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Remember to wrap it up though, loser. Otherwise you'll pay for a STD.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 02:18 AM
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Don't forget to wrap it up. Sex workers are usually not the cleanest women but you probably know that already. Sounds like there's quite a bit of experience there. Above all, have fun sticking your dick into cheap hookers who would call the cops on you the second you run out of $.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 02:05 AM
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TL;DR I stopped reading after the first sentence of your original text strongly contradicted the first sentence of this reply. I can argue with copers, but I can't argue with st@pid copers. See, unlike you, I know my limitations, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 01:53 AM
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You can't help men who (genuinely) believe that a fat wallet floods the basement similar to a tall man with a full head of hair, a strong back and broad shoulders does. Beyond salvagable. They really do live in their own world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 01:37 AM
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The "genuine attraction" thing is such gigacope from brokies First potrays it as cope when, in fact, he's coping himself. Goes then on to marginalize it in the next sentence just in case: Besides who even gives a shit? "Anyway, even if it's real, it's not thaaaaat important." ^ This is every (below) average man ever on the internet who can't deal with reality - he copes. Women seethe and resent this because they know that no man gives a shit how hard she works at her bullshit job, if she's old o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 01:17 AM
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Why do unattractive redpillers believe that they will magically become attractive once they get older? It's a coping mech. "If I turn x age, I get pussy because..." "Well, if I'm (highly) undesirable at 25, chances are that I'll be even more undesirable at age 50". One of the two is a delusion but it motivates men to get up and do smth or at the very least keeps them from unaliving themselves (think "carrot and stick" metaphor). The other is cold heart reality which most men these days can not d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 12:54 AM
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I have ALWAYS admitted to being shallow. Looks comes first and then personality. If you look at my post history, you will see I have never had a problem admitting it. I’m not ashamed of something that’s human nature. That's true for a vast majority of women but only a few ever admit to it. Women are less confrontational by nature and much more concerned with keeping the peace within the tribe. This is due to women being less able to afford confrontation due to their relative physical inferiority…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 01:19 PM
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If most (that is average) Americans are (getting) fat, then it's less of an issue. It'll eventually be a priced in quality among Americans and thus hurt someone's appearance less.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:52 PM
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Because most men aren't going to be able to do that. That logically, doesn't imply that it's uncommon. A handsome man or attractive woman can make dozen of people fall for them just over the course of a day... Projection. If looks mattered that much 66% of Americans would be incels. Different people have different standards. Most people just can't solely rely on looks. Projection or reality? That is the question here. And the vast majority of people meet. The obsession on looks is due to unreali…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:30 PM
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Some shallow woman will walk by, want his perfect genetics, and not care if she gets treated like shit by him. You present it like this is the exception rather than the rule. That isn't to say that every hot guy treats women like a living cum dump, not at all, but women, just like men, are prone to fall for attractive people of the opposite sex and yes, they will neglect (this isn't to say completely disregard!) personality if you excel in the looks department. Women call 'em fuckboy and men cal…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:16 PM
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Because men are on average richer than women Well, fuck my first message implies just that. Read "extreme". Of course you can donate more if you have more disposable income/net worth and men do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:13 PM
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Women are not as toxic as men As others have pointed out correctly, it's due to the nature of men's design. We're more extreme, always. That's why desipicable mass killers are male (Stalin or Zedong). However, and that's what women conveniently ignore, most philanthropist also happen to be male... List of philanthropists That's just how the word 'extremes' work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:59 PM
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Last massage I was a woman and now I am an incel. You're a confused loser. Get lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:48 PM
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What I'm saying is that pursuing women is a ROI calcuation, as are most things in life. After all, human action is an actors purposeful pursue of valued ends with scarce means. My argument is that a good chunk of men should devote their attention to other things in life rather than waste all their energy on (mostly) unreciprocated attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:08 PM
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I've been arguing extremes to get a point across. I could've easily said that the 5'8 guy will play for fun only. Point is, plenty of men don't have fun if they don't or only barely get what they are after. The solution? Stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 02:47 PM
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You deserve the men you get. I'm not gay but thanks anyway, small guy. I've literally NEVER heard the argument you claim 90% guys make amor basketball The validity of an analogy is not determined by how many times people have seen other repeat it, lol. It's about how it relates to an actual circumtance or situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 02:10 PM
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What good does it do us to constantly hear about some high value man sleeping with 100 women in a year, while the rest of us can’t get anything? It’s not worth the headache and stress for men these days. It’s a WASTE OF TIME, plain and simple! I'm 100% with you on that. It's just that most men don't have the mental resilience to come to that conclusion. They'd rather piss away their finite time on the internet and argue about women's standards when it does nothing but costing themselves energy t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 11:33 AM
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What does the Blue Pill get right and what wrong? As far as I understand it, the Blue Pill heavily stresses the importance of personality and thus interpersonal compatibility between the sexes. I think they get that right. Having a good personality (neurotypicality, wits, smarts, charm, etc.) is very important, in fact, only second to looks. When it comes to looks, they are completely wrong for the most part. Its importance is either downplayed or completely disregarded, which is ridiculously ig…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:54 PM
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My father talked some sense to me and now I can accept that the gender war is unavoidable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:30 PM
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Many People On This Sub Think RedPill Is Wrong Simply Because You Can’t Apply Context TL;DR The RP is wrong because it's (largely) pseudo science invented by savvy men to extract money out off the less competitive men in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:20 PM
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See, you gotta differentiate between what's efficient and what is moral. The less attractive a man, the more important it is how he sequences letters on the keyboard. Suppose you're an adamant Republican who's looking for a casual adventure. Does it really make sense to state that you're an agnostic, Trump-supporting man who is against indefinite immigration? Absolutely not. Some men, out of desperation, even do this when they're looking for something more long-term and stable, not realizing tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:34 PM
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I mean, you're interacting with men of average success at best and more commonly those of lower success. Of course the latter group in particular questions the (moral) validity of consensual adult sex (because they can't partake).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:25 PM
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Okay, but what's the point of all this? Humans lie. Women, in that context, typically downplay their sexual history. Men, on the other hand, typically exaggerate their sexual experiences. People tend to lie in order to make themselves look good... Craaaaazy. Most women want men as much as men want women. Women have lust and strong desires for men she finds attractive. Most women want men as much as men want women. Women have lust and strong desires for men she finds attractive. You realize that …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:17 PM
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So, actually, yes the violence is coming (unfortunately). hot air. People have been saying this for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:03 PM
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I'm not sure why people, unfortunately more so men, are so obsessed with other people's (women's) standards. Are they not based in reality a lot of the time? Possibly, but what does it concern you? Live and let live. People who have a poor view of the market and of themselves as a product will inevitably get their bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:01 PM
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Oh, I am the confused one? You’re forecasting violence, organized or not, when most loser men increasingly leech off of their parents and governments and play games all day. They’re not violent criminals in the vast majority of cases, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:53 AM
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I’m not relaxed when I see the future but I’m certainly not over overdramatizing it for no reason. I forsee a decrease in standards of living for most people, possibly poverty, in the West if not globally but an incel uprising? Come on. Also the historical event that you try to compare this loneliness epidemic is off. Hitler had large amounts of followers, a good amount among them former high ranking military personnel and affluent citizens. You don’t have that level of competence, affluence or …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:30 AM
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I didn’t accuse you dreaming of a scenario like that but there are more than enough men that whine themselves to sleep and then dream about something like that. If you’re on here for a longer time, you’ll see it yourself. It’s just not a very realistic scenario that the collective of lower tier men who are unsuccessful and lethargic will have the means and psychological power to execute a coup d'etat and then rule at their will forever after.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:44 AM
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and, especially online, ive noticed the 'average guy' and 'average girl' are very far apart. the average guy will be, well, an average guy. average girls however, will be like a pretty 6-7/10... What you wrote here doesn’t make sense. The average woman, by definition of the decile scale, is a 5/10. Of course, the same is true for men. why does everyone on this sub act like women are the only ones who value looks? I don’t think there’s a single honest and sane men that claimed something along the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:14 AM
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There is no violent revolution of the incels coming any time soon. It’s a wet dream at best. If lack of status rewards, lack of intimacy, economic hardship (inflation, demographics, etc.) worsen, more and more men will simply drop out of the workforce and rott in their mom’s basement. This trend will become more pronounced until a critical amount of men withhold their labor to the degree that general prosperity is at stake. Then and only then will governments provide real incentives to be produc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:02 AM
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Back to your dishes example. If we were married and I asked you if you could put the pots on the top shelf of the dishwasher instead of the bottom shelf because it’s more efficient that way, but you kept putting them on the bottom, It would be considered nagging every time I bring it up. But am I really in the wrong for “nagging.” If how I do something significantly reduces the efficiency of a given task (less clean dishes per wash cycle), I’ll listen and implement it. If it’s nitpicky and barel…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:48 AM
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I agree with your take generally but with regard to your last paragraph would just mention looks. Good genetics as manifested by phenotype (appearance) is the #1 quality. You can give off subtle or even clear signs of being part of the affluent class but if your bio states 5’6 or you’re ugly it’s just over. If you get attention, then you’re a fancy meal ticket or a life time ATM. Women and men aren’t as different as everyone thinks. They are at least as much into good looks as we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:28 AM
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A lot of young men feel lost because traditional pathways to success—good job, stable income, homeownership, fulfilling relationships—are way harder to achieve now. Not only are they harder to achieve nowadays but they don't have the "gravitational pull" with regard to women that they had in the not too distant past. Everyday life shows us that women in more free societies (that is the global West) prefer to be on their own rather than have a fling OR a family with most (that is average) men. Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 11:04 PM
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Even though it’s not a 100 % rule, there is undeniable element of sum zero game in intergender dynamics within the current society. I understand zero-sum game as gaining something at the expense of others. That's how I remember it form high school at least. Now that I've laid out the definition of the word, I'd like to make my argument, which is that dating is and always has been a zero-sum game and always will be one. For every male ancestor, we have about 2 female ancestors. I think the implic…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 10:49 PM
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I guess it's easier to vent and argue than it is to change real behavior, as irrational as that is I'm very much with you on that, generally speaking. People have always prefered the talking/writing instead of acutally doing something about it (aka labor). Sometimes, though certainly not always there are men and more rarely, women, who simply cannot adapt to the demands of the market because they are inherently not what the market demands (e.g. a 5'6 man).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 10:33 PM
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Damn, that is attractive. Thank YOU for aknowleding. On reddit, I estimate that the rate of people admitting they were wrong is about 1/5, even when confronted with overwhelming evidence. Pleasantly surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 10:28 PM
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That’s not generally what I hear as nagging. It's what I and my male friends understand as nagging. Concerning your example: If you move in with each other, you agree to certain set of rules (that is if you do it right). Those who break it are at fault. So I'm inclined to agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:51 PM
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I mean people are inherently flawed. Therfore, it's probable to assume that they will sin every once in a while. To say that they, therefore, live a life of sin is very, very dramatic - a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:49 PM
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I haven't yet seen other subreddits of similar toxicity but what you get in PPD is men and women who largely know each other (well enough atleast) but can not cope with what they learned because they can not or will adapt to the opposite's sex market demands which means no or low chances of a succesful romantic life which, let's be honest, is a crushing experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:46 PM
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By listen, I don’t man obey. But yes I would listen to his needs or wants and do what I can. Well, that's nice of you but not necessarily what I mean by "nagging". Example: Woman: Do the dishes Man: Does the dishes (Dishes as a result are clean) Woman: You're not doing it right This is what I don't tolerate. It's a death by 1000 cuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:33 PM
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I'm a self supporting male that does well for himself. Would nagging exist if men listened to what their SO asks of them? So, do you listen if your man asks you to perform a blowjob or make him a sandwich? This sounds like entitlement more so than "not getting anything done" on the part of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:24 PM
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Men are less religious in more gender-equal countries The gap isn't that high and when you take Into account the countries where women are less likely to receive education.. See, is that really the case? Two global analyses (51 countries and 74 countries) found that country-level gender equality was consistently and negatively associated with religiousness (i.e. religious attendance, reported importance of God and frequency of prayer) for men, more than for women, leading to a larger sex differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:21 PM
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No - it’s more like going to church and still sinning. Oh, my bad. Read it for "singing". As far as beeing a sinner goes: That doesn't exclude you from Christian (or Muslim) faith. If I remember correctly, Jesus himself apperently acknowledged that sinning is part of the human condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:47 PM
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Likewise!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:37 PM
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I think, deep down, most people are aware of this to varying degrees. The people who're regulars here have a rather shitty or at the very least unsatisfying romantic- and/or -sex life. It's their way of coping/venting. Of course, there are exceptions to this. I think for most people it's healthy to eventually leave the sub. After all, there is only so much that you can read/learn about the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:31 PM
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Aight - thank you for that nice and easy-going conservation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:25 PM
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Yeah, as I've pointed out in a other comment: I don't think this is a gender specific problem. I think women and men are more similar than most people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:19 PM
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Yeah, tons of people who go to church in order to sing a song. My bad. Not such thing as a choir where people who are musically inclined meet other people who are also musically inclined. Bands are also not a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:17 PM
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The people who genuinely believe in astrology/horoscopes are usually not very rational from what I’ve experienced. I don't think what you write makes a lot of sense. Women do ask astrology/horoscope related questions in order to determine future outcomes. "Are you a gemini?" Why would they ask that a potential boyfriend/partner/husband if they don't genuinely believe in it? To be into astrology, horoscope, tarot cards and other hocus pocus and yet not believing it is akin to going to church whil…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:10 PM
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I guess that's true. If you do, you'll get downvoted and you're forced to read comments by women that are largely along the lines of "women are no monolith" or "women are no hivemind" which I guess is a performative contradiction on a collective level? Whatever it is, it's funny :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:05 PM
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Elaborate. I have both men and women (as of late, more so the latter) down-voting me when all I do is copy-pasting facts almost. Karma is irrelevant to me. I'm here for the different insights and opinions if you mean that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 07:49 PM
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Women are more almost two thirds more likely to believe in God or life after death than men, a new poll highlighting a deep gender divide in religious beliefs has found. Men, generally speaking, are, how do I put it nicely, maybe more reality-based. Like "what is" is valued greater than "what should be" or "what would be nice".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 07:44 PM
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Thank you for your honesty. I hate that I have to state this but this is no gaslight attempt. I think they're some really negative traits that men are more prone to. Glad, some women have the brain/nerves to see nuance in that question and don't feel attacked. Would you say nagging is also more commonly found in women than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 07:41 PM
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nagging.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 07:12 PM
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I can empathize with that pov but I don't think it's gender specific. Trauma-dumping is usually not okay. Especially if you only got to know each other recently. What I was hinting at were things that could be used against use if shit hits the fan. Some women (and I'm sure men, too) can be really evil & vile if they're not satisfied with how the relationship is going. I suppose I also agree with the notion that it's from a respect/attraction pov not the best to be fully transparent with your fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 08:04 PM
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I agree for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 05:35 PM
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What exactly? My particular approach to being vulnerability?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 05:00 PM
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A man should never be vulnerable with his partner, since women can't handle men's emotions If I can't be vulnerable at all, then it's not my partner. Might as well see a hooker. Will I disclose everything to my partner? Absolutely not. I don't think that serves most men well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 01:28 PM
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Most men can't afford to have standards like that which is why "vagina" is the only real requirement for 80% of men. It is what it is. The men who (realistically) can have standards will eventually find out and adopt them into their screening process.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 01:01 AM
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If we want to apply capitalistic values and models to dating You make it sound like there are alternatives to the capitalist view - there are not. Socialism doesn't work and is unethical, hence it's non-sensical and Capitalism without alternative. The dating/mating markets are Capitalist like every other market. Which is why it makes sense that average women aren’t looking for average men. Average women are looking for above average women because they (by supply & demand) can. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 12:35 AM
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I like smart (&confident) and submissive women and altough you make these qualities sound like they're mutually exclusive, they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 12:17 AM
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There are lots of women who will counterintuitively RAISE their standards in the face of nonsuccess in dating That's not something I concern myself with because... ...the women who do this (and yes, there a quite a few) will be beaten into submission by reality eventually. If you insert a piece of shit used car from the 90s for $50,000, you'll wait for an offer until you're on your deathbed. Again, if you're deluded, the free market will punish you, it always does.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 12:14 AM
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Cheers. Fingers crossed that you run into tall and I into programming langauge (C+ haha) person. Upvote returned.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 12:06 AM
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Why the down vote then? I didn't down vote you, lol. You stated a prefernence and I thought I'd state my preference as well because why not. I can't help what I'm automatically turned off by nowadays. Neither can I. I don't think there's a human with that superpower...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 12:00 AM
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Well, what you wrote is exactly what unexperienced, maybe also naive, men are asking. The majority women audience in contrast: "Women are no hivemind" It's just a very emotinal, non-constructive, albeit funny answer. It has entertainment value to it but that's not what men are asking for. “We are not a hive mind”, and yet we happen to write the same comment. I love my women. Truly divine beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:51 PM
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Women On Reddit Chase Validation and Attention By Stating an Exception to an Obvious Truth I love it when men ask something on women-exclusive subs like AskWomenNoCensor and they all reflexively answer “women are not a hivemind” (the irony being them answering the same XD) to questions like “does height matter in men?”. I burst out laughing every time because it's soooo funny. It never gets old. :D I know it can be frustrating if you're a man looking for general rules and probabilities for your …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:44 PM
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Ngl though, no more 5'6" dudes for me. Ngl though, no less than C cup women for me (unrionically).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:41 PM
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HAHAHAAHAHAHA. (Genuinely) Thanks you got me laughing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:22 PM
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If dating apps are hard for you, you’re simply not competitive. There are those men that fulfill their objectives on tinder despite the poor gender ratio and others who piss away their time & money on Tinder with close to zero tangible results.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:28 AM
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Last time OP opened a thread he was stating that he’s successful on Tinder. I’m sure his posting history indicates just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:19 AM
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Interesting - I didn’t know the ratio in NYC was this bad but it’s entirely believable. If you give an individual (be it female or male)10 job offers will they not compare the conditions and pick the best? Come on. It’s so obvious. Men whine because they get 1 offer if they’re lucky and none at all but the tiny minority of men who do have +10 offers act just like women. It’s human nature and also compatible with morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:04 AM
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Even if you discard all the (correctly) stated biological components to the pickiness of women. If the supply and demand asymmetry would be switched in the favor of men, I bet you EVERY men would be as picky and selective as he possibly can be when it comes to casual sexual or long term relationships. Why? People prefer more over less and better over worse. Again: IF men were able to select from a long list of attractive applicants (women), they would tendencially pick the best option. They blam…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 11:36 PM
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I appreciate the answer. You were able to see both the upsides and the downsides of waiting and both sides rather clear. I think in a (more) ideal world, you’d wanna wait but mankind still kicks around because we’re able to adapt to change like no other animal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 12:32 AM
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I (make an attempt to) wait for sex whenever I aim at something long term with a given woman. Why? I don’t want her p to cloud my judgement. If I plan on spending time with a woman in AND outside of sex (ltr), I wanna make sure she’s kind and (at least reasonably) sane, etc. Nowadays, mostly online dating. In person meeting every now and then. At the very least 3 high effort dates + the preceding online/via text vetting. No signs really. Is she kind, sane, and attractive? Yes, that’s good enough…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 12:17 AM
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I admire the effort @OP. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:59 PM
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You sound like this is true for casual relationships exclusively. In the past, women got with average men because their survival was depending on it. Freedom (which I absolutely endorse) shows that women rather navigate life on their own than have flings OR family with most men. Regardless if a woman (or man) creates Tinder for something stable and long term or just for quick sex, the number one selective criteria is phenotype. The factually correct answer to the Tinder/bumble subreddit guys wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:46 PM
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People, the curious ones at least, were aware of this inherent dynamic between men and women much earlier than the internet. For every male ancestor, we have 2 female ancestors. For anyone with an IQ in the triple digits the implications of this are more than obvious. It was always like that and until recently, most men were simply in an “ignorance is a bliss” kind of state. Many still are. Now we have relatively free markets and less discrimination which makes for a rather clear picture of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:24 PM
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Criticizing women is automatically seen as as hating women(by some women). If you go through life like that you'll be punished unless you're sufficiently attractive at which point men will endure everything for the prospect of getting in your pants. As is so often the case, this is a "reality" that only hot people can afford to live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 08:41 PM
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Women care more about feels than facts. A majority of women do care more about feels than facts, yeah. However, I'm not to sure that this thinking pattern is exlusive to women anymore. I think there's a gap between men and women ( with men generally prefering to use logic as a tool in order to navigate life more so than women) but it's progressively narrowing in my opinion. It used to be quite a bit wider in the not too distant past.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 05:08 PM
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When u mean ben backwards how so? Well, they're enthusiastic about sex with you. The more submissive types, will put your pleassure above hers. You don't get starfish sex. She'll try to look her best when doing it. My goal is to make sure she is into me There's nothing you can actively do about it but you can tell if she feels that way or not. I replied to you in a different comment with how it usually goes down for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:24 PM
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the way women have sex is also very telling? There's good sex (when both parties want to rip off each other's clothes) and there's mehh sex when both/one of the parties is like "I'm horny, let's get this over and done with". When you're just "attractive enough". Women who are genuinely into you will bend backwards for you (no pun intended). Well if every guy is after sex and women know this and they only have sex with men they want then isn't going down the path of trying to have instant sex goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:10 PM
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If she's making rules for you aka not excited to see you naked, you walk. That's a friend at best. Unfortunately, most men can't comprehend this because they're too desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:04 PM
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Sex is the biggest indicator for a woman to shoe she's into a guy in that way I think that's a fair statement but the issue at hand is that (virtually) every guy is after immediate gratification aka sex which is why most women are very relucant giving it up to early on. Understandbly so, in my opinion. But yeah, it's the most obvious/explicit indicator of burning desire. The way women have sex with men is also very telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:57 PM
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They are very different around men they are attracted to. Its mind blowing Oh, absolutely. I've known a man (university) who openly asked for racial segregation US style because, according to him, Blacks (he used a different term) are intellectually inferior and exceptionally violent. As often as he had sex, you'd think he was the only man in the world and that every woman had the obligation to contribute to maintaining the world's population. Even some of the hardcore lefty women who were apper…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:52 PM
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If i'm trying (that is well dressed + psychologically presentable), I am a 7 on the decile scale. The chances that you're running into a top 1 percent men on here is close to zero. They're busy enjoying life to its fullest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:42 PM
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Not necessarily. If women want it to work out and men to an extent as well, they get to know each other before doing the deed. In the past, women who were attracted to me were blushing and early on couldn't maintain eye contact well. They also were touchy (touching shoulders, moving their legs to mine when sitting down and getting coffee). If I really wanted it to happen, I probably could've pushed for sex and sometimes I did when the objective was more short term rather than long term. However,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:34 PM
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Immediate sex is not needed to prove desire. You just want sex. You’re right with that assumption of yours most of the time I guess. There are more subtle ways to make sure that a woman is desiring you physically. Doesn’t have to be her legs behind her ears within the first or second date. I feel that a minority of men, due to a mixture of insecurity and cluelessness, insist on sex very early on. Most, however, just want to get in your pants and know what they’re doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:10 PM
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Looks trump everything, women are shallow Let me correct that so it doesn't sound like women are all superficial while men are divine angels and primarily/only seek inner beauty in the opposite sex: Looks trump everything, people are shallow. You're most welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:35 PM
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What does your ideal society look like A Private law Society as proposed by Murray N. Rothbard and Hans-Hermann Hoppe. In short, a form of social organisation in which everyone is free to choose. A complete absence of (by law legitimated) coercion. Key features include: - Voluntary Interaction - Decentralized Law - Non-Aggression Principle - Market-Based Conflict Resolution
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 04:16 PM
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Guys Don’t Like Dating Apps and Instagram For Only One Reason I skimmed through your text because you didn't provide a tl;dr when you really should. What you're writing is not groundbreaking and thus doesn't need to be elaborated on. In short, you're right. Unsuccessful (that is average) men don't like dating apps because they either can't get what they want or, more commonly, can't get anything. You're correct, Instagram often acts as a marketplace for attractive people and thus can be called a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 04:09 PM
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Lengthy comment? Do you have a peanut sized brain with minimal retention ability for suggesting that my comment was “lengthy”? Your posting history is indicative of the real problem at hand. You’re yet another frustrated man who isn’t getting noteworthy success on the apps because you’re not what women inherently look for in men. :d
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:03 PM
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Same stuff over and over and over again. Someone award me the Nobel award for finding out that the Sky is Blue. Supply and demand is a bitch and will hold up a mirror to oneself and since most people aren’t honest with themselves, this will become ugly. Bookmarking this so I can copy paste this to another genius man next week.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:05 PM
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The study found that among men under 30 years old, over 60 percent are single, almost double that of women in the same age bracket. Most (>60%) men (that by definition is average men) are single. Are you suggesting that a majority of those single men have the luxury of being able to get sex outside of a committed relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 09:03 AM
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Money doesn’t get pussy wet, that’s prostitution This. When will the money copers ever digest this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 08:24 PM
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Telling women that they are the gatekeepers of sex and relationships reinforces women’s need to have high standards. I don't like that 2 + 2 equals 4 therefore it's 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:22 PM
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If I would agree with you, I would've simply left an upvote. What you said is different from what I just wrote which is why I corrected it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:07 AM
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In the modern dating age, the first step is the women "choosing the man", often times before he is even aware of it. It has always been like that that. Nothing to do with modernity. In this way, women are the true initiators and selectors and men have far less power over the outcome. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:05 AM
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They don't work for most men because most (that is average) men are just not what women really want. Doesn't mean that it doesn't work it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:04 AM
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Getting good sex is immensely beneficial for your mental health and sometimes getting into an exciting relationship CAN solve your mental health struggles Definitely! I have tried various SSRIs and perscribed Amfetamin (ADD) and nothing comes close to being AND messing around with an attractive woman in terms of well-being for me. Gyming, walks in fresh air, and meeting friends are also decent but it doesn't really compare to being intimate with an attractive & kind woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:43 AM
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Saying the average man isn't struggling with dating is like saying the average woman doesn't get raped the average man isn't struggling with dating false. the average woman doesn't get raped true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:47 AM
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What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:55 AM
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Unironically these dudes should just hire an escort. The amount of money spent on average taking a woman out before you get laid is basically the price of an escort. Framed this way, it's probably an easier pill to swallow for them You're actually incorrect. TIme and money wise, it's best for most (that is average) men to pay escorts when sex is the main objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:51 PM
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Life is a struggle for most of us. If you haven't realized that by (at the very lastest) the age of adulthood, you're a pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:52 PM
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Okay but why whine about it on the internet all day? Are women supposed to cry on the internet because of the fact that they bleed out of their genetalia every month?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:48 PM
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Complaining about dating’s unfairness as a man will lead to nothing and is a pointless endeavour I can't help but feel like the simple fact that the world (nature) is inherently unfair is an epiphany for people of the 21st century.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:05 PM
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The well WILL dry out but not nearly as fast as the one's who kept and to this day keep it full would like to. It'll be a slow and unpleasant drain. The financial system, Western demographics, parasitic migration flows, etc. are all a huge factor in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:05 PM
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I give you that but if free shit was thrown at men I'm not to sure if they (as a group) would heroically decline the government goodies because they were unjustly acquired (essentially ripped off from the net tax payers which are mostly men). Most people do not play the hero (true for men and women almost alike) but instead take the bribes and that's what government checks are. My check, your vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:53 PM
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It IS healthy for society, though. If women, like men, were to fuck everything with a pulse, we'd have a very dysgenic population. Women are the quality control of the human gene pool so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:39 PM
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It always collects.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:37 PM
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She's right, though. There are leeeeeeegions of men who persecute women because they're (by design of nature) hypergamous. Those men might as well get angry at the moon being White or dogs barking. You learn about hypergamy, swallow it, and then it's on the man and his genes whether he is willing/able to adapt to this reality. It's not all that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:05 PM
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Her text implies that economics (human action) is an actors purposeful pursuit of valued ends with scarce means. Men and women alike are constrained by scarcity and act accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:02 PM
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A wall of text for basically asserting (rightfully so) that what Milton Friedman, Thomas Sowell, and Ludwig von Mises taught about MARKETS happens to apply to the mating/dating MARKET as well. Now who would've guessed that. You receive 6/10 on the Captain Obvious scale with 0 being "fairly obscure" and 10 being "very f@cking obvious". It's not that most men don't know or can't comprehend this (altough there is a sizeable minority of them) but they simply refuse to do so. Needless to say, the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:53 PM
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Hey guys, we have another PPD born genius. The men in the here are insanely smart, it's unreal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:34 PM
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Do you think women have an obligation or moral duty to have children? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:38 AM
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I'm the top commenter in some of your threads and I just want to say this.... You're completely and utterly clueless. A loser just as I predicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:54 PM
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Possibly? I know what I'm though, a spineless loser of man, much like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:50 PM
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I'm very much open to criticism but I don't tolerate bs remarks about mundane tasks for the sake of it (nagging). You frame it all you want, but I have zero patience for the crazy kinds and I will let them now the second they start their antics :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:16 PM
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You don't do the dishes right, put 'em here. You're using the vacuum cleaner wrong. Do it that waay. I've never ended a relationship, but I've dumped women who were potential partners immediately because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:50 PM
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If a woman naggs me, I give her 1 warning. Second time she does it, I walk. It's a death by a thousand cuts. There's no p in the world that can justify that behavior even remotely.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:21 PM
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Directionless, uneducated, lacking ambition, jobless, saddled with debt, living in parents basement etc. I don’t date (female) bums just for having regular access to the holy p.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 08:55 AM
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Kind, has my back-always, is confident in me leading, supportive, intelligent and curious, nurturing, reasonably not crazy, nurturing. Just the classic old fashioned feminine energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 08:51 AM
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As a woman, this is the answer. Thanks. Needless to say the reverse is true as well. Men absolutely honor and value traditional feminine qualities such as kindness, supportiveness, nourishment, empathy, and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 05:46 AM
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I’m masculine by most physical characteristics (tall, broad shouldered, well endowed) but masculinity is also leadership ability, mental resilience, competence, courage, decisiveness, and so forth and there are times where I ask myself with how I measure up to most other men in those aspects. Long story short, I seldomly if ever question my masculinity as determined by physiognomy but I do question my masculinity as determined by psychological factors every once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:16 PM
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If you think a single woman’s real life experience beats the insight of empirical data, I can’t help you, I simply can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:00 PM
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Well, English happens to be my third language so mistakes will happen every once in a while. Thank you for your (surely well-meant) correction. I don’t believe; I read and therefore I know. Sounds like you are much more of the believe breed than I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 01:48 PM
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Them not having as much children (which is correct) doesn’t contradict what I just said. Not in the slightest. The ones that have children have them within a stable nuclear family, more so than people of lower classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 12:23 PM
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I agree with you. That’s the picture I have about this issue and I don’t think anything I said previously contradicts what you just wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:04 AM
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Poor is indicative of social class. Those two correlate significantly. You need to grab a dictionary and search term: socioeconomic status/class
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:40 AM
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This isn’t about social class. I’m afraid you misunderstood me. Women, irrespective of class, choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:35 AM
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Was it though?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:21 AM
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No, you quite literally! said the woman is account for a man abandoning his kid. Would you kindly quote me on that? The notion that men have no responsibility or accountability to the children they helped create is where I find issue. I wholeheartedly agree. I’m simply pointing out that women have a special privilege (by being selectors) and as such an extra amount of responsibility as enablers so to speak. This isn’t synonymous with bums being free of sin/responsibility after impregnating a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:19 AM
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I was in a relationship and have been in less serious relationship with 3 other men. I never suddenly woke up to a woman and thought “that’s an insufferable bitch I had sex” with last night m, never. This is true for women I spent 2 months with and another I spent close to 18 months with. People in this day and age simply don’t want to take responsibility for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:36 AM
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Concerning your last paragraph: I agree there are exceptionally cunning men who are able to hide it for a significant period of time but exceptional (by definition) implies that this is limited to a very small number of men and my heart goes out to women who ran into a man like that. I don’t go along with the common belief that every other single mom ran into a man like that. This is bullishit to ease one’s conscience and shift blame which is testament to weak character.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:30 AM
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I’m sorry but I don’t think I need to be attracted to men to make an argument about single parenthood. It’s just very poor reasoning. Let us agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:24 AM
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You simply accuse me of having said something I didn’t say at all. I agree: adults (irrespective of sex) should be held accountable for their actions (unprotected sex in that case) and dead-beat fathers are to be discriminated against socially. Does this take anything away from the assertion that women generally choose which men get to have unprotected sex with them and that they thus have a special responsibility with this privilege? Not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:21 AM
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Being a man myself I don’t desire sexual or romantic relationships with men. I don’t see how this is relevant to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:14 AM
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I personally know a 6’4 Chinese man and a woman that is physically stronger than 90% of men. Does that mean that most Chinese men are tall or most women stronger than most men? Being a person who was raised by a single mom myself, I read and read about it and socio-economically stronger people have stronger family units. That is a fact - outliers validate the rule, not disprove it. Competent women, generally speaking, choose competent men. Incompetent women, generally speaking, choose incompeten…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:12 AM
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Okay, I’ll go in detail here, very graphic: It is women! who decide who gets to finish inside them, not men. By evolutionary biology, you’d think that this would make them extra critical/selective with WHO gets to do it. Reality is that some people consistently make good decisions while others consistently make poor ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:03 AM
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It’s a standard excuse women give in my opinion. “He only really showed his true colors after/during pregnancy”. I think sensitive and competent women are able to see through it most of the time. Like I don’t think it’s plausible to believe that most men are worth sticking around for idk 5 years and then suddenly as a new born enters the equation they magically turn into losers or drop their mask 0-100. The truth is that loser women (not all, but generally speaking) end up with loser men because…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:58 AM
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Absolutely. They not only “help” but contribute about half of what it takes to create a human. Thing is that loser men wouldn’t even have a chance to procreate if it wasn’t for women who chose them. It’s a fact that upper class women (proxy for intelligence really) are considerably less likely to end up as a single mother. They are simply more competent selectors. That’s the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:46 AM
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Don’t women choose men and not vice versa?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:35 AM
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Maybe women would rather work their asses off than be in a relationship (+all the expectations that come with it) with a man they don’t really want? Maybe they have a strong code of conduct that forbids them from getting a man solely for the purpose of financial support?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:34 AM
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I disagree. I don't think it's probable at all finding someone as 30th percentile in looks men with a at best mehh personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:24 PM
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More Men Are Getting Left Out on Dating Because They Won’t Comply with Modern Standards Correction: >More and more men are being left out of the dating scene because they cannot comply with modern norms We act like men don't try but more and more men sign up for e.g. the gym, mostly in hopes of complying with women's standards but usually they still can't even if they put on muscle mass. They also sign up for dating coaches or workshops to get women... Even now, where it is evidently clear that …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:19 PM
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Hypergamy isn’t necessarily synonymous with “unrealistic standards”. Standards are unrealistic if you can’t (realistically) attain them. Women, generally speaking, can and will go for men that are more attractive. This is due to the inherent demand asymmetry between the opposite gender (aka: women aren’t attracted to most men whereas most men are attracted to most women). There is a significant minority! of women who lack the self reflection and pattern recognition to come the the conclusion tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:10 AM
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Love Hans - Herman Hoppe! I see, a man with exceptional taste!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:53 AM
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The difference between the Soviet Union (way more ressources) and the US was that the latter stood for freedom first and foremost while the former stood for coercion. The Soviet Empire basically went bankrupt while the USA flourished more and more until it's adoptation of socialist policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:21 PM
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The US and the British Empire was the dominating force on the planet because it was internally free (low taxes/regulations) which motivates people to be productive. This policy of freedom created means for US and the British Empire before that to be the hegemon of their time. The US is a dying world power because it's increasingly following socialist policies. If 51 percent of men don’t have a prospect at a woman and a family, they will withdraw from society which starts its decline. Yeah, we ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:12 PM
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eventually you got a revolution and men set up the new society in their favor. Yeah, I don't think so. Economically weak and unattractive guys are basement dwellers, not revolutionary fighters. It'll be ebb for the forseeable future until it get's so bad that women turn to men (voluntarily) because of a lack of prosperity and infrastructure. A society in which men coerce women also isn't competetive internationally. Freedom generates the most wealth and thus power.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:57 PM
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I agree on the take that describes how it is now and disagree about the future revolution part. It's going to be a steady but noticable decline in wealth from men who turn to the NEET life style. There won't be a leader or country that tackels inceldom and as a cosnequence, forces women into (sexual) relationships that they would otherwise not have in their worst nightmare, it's not going to happen. This decline in wealth will then cause for men and women coming closer to each other again becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:36 PM
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Then if this gets to 40% it will become an issue to address. This problem can only be “adressed” by a) forcing women or b) changing their (evolutionary-biologically determined) behavior. a) is morally more than reprehensible and b) is unrealistic and in all likelihood not good for the quality of the gene pool. I'll tell how it's going to change moderately in the decades to come. Men in the labor market run on a fuel and that fuel is called (prospect of) "sex". If more and more men realize that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:56 PM
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It's fine, men aren't "entitled to sex" say the progressives. I'm a Conservative Libertarian (Rothbardian/Hoppean). That's the polar opposite of being a so called Liberal. My political stance is not at all in contradiction to"no man is entitled to a woman's pussy". Everyone owns their nature-given body and their rightly appropriated goods therefore women don't owe you a split second of their body, zero. I believe anyone who accepts that men deserve nothing in the sexual marketplace should also a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:47 PM
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Oh, you got it all wrong. Capitalism the way of economic and social organizations that dignifies the people the most. Go pick up a history book and search Communism. Your professors and teachers lied to you...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:12 PM
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Magg@t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:57 PM
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M@gg@t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:56 PM
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Being perceived attractive is highly dependent on the woman you approach Oh, absolutely not. If perceived attractiveness would vary this much, we wouldn't have male/female models. Most women like tall, broad shouldered men with large hands for example. That's how a lot of men who make money out of their genetic make up look like - it's in demand by the opposite sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:55 PM
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If the women in your life don't support you, how would debating about it, especially here, change anything? In my opinion, this sub is like a level in a video game. You reach it, absorb it, and then eventually leave it. Men know what women want and women know what men want. This, for me atleast, is what PPD is about - getting to understand the opposite sex and deciding whether I want or can conform to those demands. There are enough women and men (moreso the latter) that try to argue against pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 01:03 PM
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However, it's been said countless times that a guy doesn't need to be super handsome for dating apps to work, as long as he's decent looking and not at all a slob. It's been "said" - lmao. Are we still in 2012 where people argue what was supposedly "said" or "agreed upon" and not watch what the target groups does instead? seriously? I'd consider myself a decent looking guy who sometimes has women make the first move, aswell as mention to their friends that they find me attractive. And I consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:18 PM
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Men who ask for advice rather than study the (by now) extensive empirical data deserve to be lied to. I skimmed over your text and I think you’re, by and large, right. I think men largely know what women want but bait them on forums like this for truth so they can then say “all women are shallow sluts” when women do tell the truth. If they are less direct about their needs and desires or outright lie (which does happen) to spare feelings and/or not to come off as shallow, then “all women lie or …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 03:06 AM
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Men conveniently lie to themselves (about money among other things making a woman wet down there). You can (theoretically) work towards a fat bank account. You cannot work towards genetics (tall, large hands, nice eyes, etc.) and that is what matters most. It’s a coping mechanism for men who are unable or unwilling to deal with reality. Most men these days would crumble under the weight of truth which is why they lie to themselves. Apart from that, it’s also easier making money off of desperate …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:22 AM
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I’ve thought about this too, and I think the answer is evolutionary biology and sexual selection. It IS evolutionary biology and sexual selection - it absolutely is true. However, what do men gain by smashing their head into a brick wall day in, day out over something they can't change? Why? Jerk off if it's lust, watch a chick flick if it's passion/love that you desire. Get it over with and go about your day. On this sub alone, we're blaming dogs because they bark and we (other men here) want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 02:46 PM
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He's quite obviously bullshitting in order to make the argument from authority. Going from 4 years of celibacy to swimming in pussy. That's slumdog millionaire with the currency being Poonani and not USD - Hollywood, not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 02:37 PM
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Well, it's almost like guys want women more than vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 02:29 PM
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Looking at his posting history, he most definitely fucked 130 women. Sounds like a real player with no issues whatsoever getting da gurlza. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 02:00 PM
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Aaaand another "struggle olympics" thread... What do you get out of constantly repeating the now well known fact that most women are not attracted to most men? We KNOW it and we KNOW the implications (key words: supply and demand, OLD, casual sex, relationships, etc.) The religious assertion that 2 + 2 = 4 will never change the fact that it's 4. Women like hot men, and because men want women much more than women want men, women can and will select the best they can. Guys would do the same IF the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 01:54 PM
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Ah, the good old apex fallacy. It got me smiling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:56 PM
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CMV: I don't think women like men Correction so it applies to reality: Women don't like (below) average men. This is what online-dating, empirical evidence, etc. shows us.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:39 PM
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You say it can be unhealthy (which is true if you're unattractive), but it's mostly genetics that make you want women, not society that drives you or meassures you with relationships and/or casual sex you can get. It's your reproductive instinct that drives you above anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 03:42 PM
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No, you're misunderstanding. I'm not talking of Chads who win by mere virtue of their genetic make up. I'm talking of mostly normal men that would take advantage of the mass celibacy agreed upon by man en masse. In other words, they are taking advantage off of the newly formed market balances. Less supply of men which makes the men who DO participate way more attractive. Chad is objectively better (as assessed by most women), therefore he gets women. No cheating/exploit occured here. In the scen…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 03:40 PM
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You’re making the mistake of thinking that it’s societal pressure (making/landing a GF). I make the case that this is a desire as old as time (being genetic).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:08 PM
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It gets posted daily almost and yet every time there is a wall of text explaining it in detail. It’s not that men don’t know it. They can’t get emotionally over this circumstance. That’s weak asf.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 04:11 AM
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You’re naive. Shortly after agreement of “collective celibacy”, the “savvy” ones would exploit the mass by entering the market with the newly established market balances. One by one, other men would follow until we are where we are now. Bros before hoes is cinema only.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:48 AM
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Doing something longer doesn’t necessarily mean that you do it better. I’ll stop responding to you now because you’re either clouded by arrogance or incompetence. Those are personal attributes that make it hard to penetrate through. I’ll leave it to the sub members to decide what exactly reality is in that case. Let’s leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:14 PM
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You are living in your own fantasyland because you’re either too emotionally weak or too stupid to see reality for what it is which, again, is completely fine. Each according to his ability. I’m just of the opinion that for the great majority of man reality is preferable over fantasyland.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:05 PM
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See, that’s not a solution then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:58 PM
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Literally not how it works but you do you and I do me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:55 PM
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You're trying to bend reality by making it a matter of "positioning" when it's clearly not. Some men (the VAST majority of the guys) are applicants while others (the absolute exception) are selectors. Logically, the reverse is true for women. If you are not what women want and again, that's a majority of men, you can position yourself all you want, it is nothing but a great denial of reality. It's like demanding a $250,000 salary while having no skill that is in demand in the labor force. You ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:45 PM
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Men on here are exceptionally frustrated and accordingly psychologically damaged. Regulars here know that these kind of threads (struggle olypmics) are completely normal within the realms of this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:37 PM
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Water is wet post. Men want women (for casual sex AND relationships) way more than vice versa. I wonder how this fact relates to supply and demand, and thus men’s leverage on the market? A real toughy. Someone please help me out here finishing my train of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:00 PM
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I think it’s mostly a grifter thing. In other words a pseudo science built to milk unattractive men with bullshit advice like “hold frame” or “pheromone soap” in oder to get da gurlza.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:54 AM
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She’s a regular in the “bitter club”. Posting history is telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 05:00 AM
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If you think there is a meaningful difference in looks mattering in relationships vs. looks mattering in casual sex, then, without meaning to be offensive, you’re deluded. Also, your claim that men only want casual sex is completely out of touch with reality. Most children have a father in their life which means that sticking p into v isn’t just a casual matter for the majority of men. I suggest you watch: the reality principle - Aaron Clarey (YouTube) Looking at your past posts, you really need…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 04:57 AM
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I'm not going to argue why 2 + 2 = 5. It's not that I can't but I just refuse to, you know... I've wasted enough time writing text upon text. There's a certain number of people that choose to live in reality and there are others unwilling or unable to confront reality for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:50 PM
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Well, that's your problem. You think this is a rock solid thesis/post when in actuality it's anything but that. It's a classic "who hurt you?" and/or "look, I'm mental" post.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:32 PM
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A man should self improve only to attain sex or starting a family. A man should not self improve for love or friendship. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:13 PM
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People need to understand that apps are a market place where its participants make for the dynamics and market prices. It’s less so Tinder but your face, height, or race that handicap you. Sure, Tinder and co makes it so that its clients (men for the most part) stay as long as possible but if you are attractive you’ll fulfill your objectives within days.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:22 PM
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Ladies and gentleman, if you want to get an idea of OPs mental clarity (lack thereof rather), then just go ahead and check her threads. Don’t feed the troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:52 PM
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OP is rather ignorant. She’s the “if I want it to be that way, it IS that way” type of person. You don’t argue with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:46 PM
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It’s good that scientists and thus mainstream portrays it that way. Ensures that men stay somewhat productive. If men were told “what you can earn, the women you can get with, and how fast you are able to learn” is almost exclusively related to your genetic makeup, then many men would just quit and withhold their economic production and almost by implication leech off of other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 11:36 PM
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Imagine giving “meaning” to platitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 07:29 PM
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Of course it matters. What I said basically means that chances are very high that a spatially skilled man will most likely be good at Math and at times show that he’s good at Math.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:43 AM
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They all correlate significantly. Areas of Human Intelligence (or lack thereof) are correlated which is to say that they come in a package deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:59 PM
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You assume that you figured out the Davinci code but in reality you are as clueless as most other people who claim they are enlightened. Mating is not about figuring out a extremely well kept and hidden formula that makes women go jump on your d. It's also not something that you can buy via a 1 week workshop by a dating coach that bills you $1,200. It just ain't. If you feel that it is, then you're in denial or not all that smart. In order to be succesful with women, you need to be what women wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:22 PM
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In that (non-rule confirming) case, yeah. Most of the time, men couldn’t care less whether their buddies think that their partner is fuckable or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 04:34 AM
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If Women Don’t Know Who They’re Attracted To Until They Get To Know Them <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 11:19 PM
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Well, generally speaking, this is not the case. There will always be outliers. Take follwing statement: Women care about a man's height. Suzanna doesn't - right but Lena, Nina, Monica, Claudia, Michelle, and Fabienne do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 10:18 PM
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when dating, do you factor in how attractive she is to others? What matters is if I want to tap that ass. I dont' care whether Ryan, Jeff, Robert or Ben would tap that. Completely irrelevant to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:02 PM
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Which is why I made an effort to be intellectually honest and include celebs that are relevant now. Read: “more recently” Is my English this bad or am I deliberately being misunderstood? Genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:59 AM
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Why is it that women in their 50s refer to men in their 40s or 30s then and men no matter how old they are prefer 20 smth year olds? Women’s fertility window is relatively small and the goal of inserting p in v is to have cute little babies which is why it makes perfect sense for men to find 20 smth year old women way more attractive than 40 smth yea old women. On the other hand the difference between a 40 yo man and a 20 yo man is not existent when it comes to impregnating a woman which is why …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:52 AM
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Everyone looks best in their 20s, typically. I don’t think that’s a controversial statement. I think it very much is. Often, though not always, when women discus the hottest men ever than it’s often Pierce Brosnan, Brad Pitt or more recently Matt Bomer or Henry Cavill. Those men are not in their 20s anymore and most of their perceived “prime” pictures were also not taken in their 20s. When men discuss beauties like Sophia Loren or Monica Bellucci it tends to be pictures of them in their 20s or a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:20 AM
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I also told her this as someone within the same age-bracket. I think you’re underestimating age as factor for beauty in women a little but the idea that unsuccessful men overblow it is correct, generally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:10 AM
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Yeah, that’s a classic hot-girl post. Text-book example basically. I was saying this all along. 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 04:59 AM
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It’s not a cut-off as some bitter men portray it to be. A good looking woman at 20 will be a good looking woman at age 35 but she’ll not be able to compete with other good looking women in their 20s ceteris paribus from now on. If I had a daughter then I would urge her to put effort into dating in her 20s. That way she can maximize her chances of finding an attractive, supportive, and kind partner. It’s not impossible upon hitting 30, just progressively getting harder and more unlikely. Long sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 04:58 AM
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Hot enough means that if she’s nice, kind and intelligent (redeeming qualities), she doesn’t need to be a hot piece of ass. That’s all. Oh, of course you are young & attractive. This post SCREAMS that you are - 100%. Never doubted that you weren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 04:44 AM
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I’m in my mid 20s and prefer women in their early to max mid 20s. Generally speaking, I think women in that age bracket look better than women 30 or older. I’m not unreasonable and saying they are all unattractive past 30, but they are just not as attractive to me. Since the women I’ve been with by implication also expressed their preferences for a couples older in men, I’m not at all concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 04:35 AM
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She has to be young & hot (emphasis) enough. Also, unlike a majority of women, I carefully evaluate what it is that I have to offer. Were my past relationships/flings consistent and realistic with my current standards? Yay or nay? I know what I can realistically expect and that’s what most men would call young and reasonably attractive and I’m not settling for anything less and why would I when I can consistently get that? Did I hurt your fee-fees with reality? Are you not part of the young and/…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 04:31 AM
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Oh men are the ones suddenly having unrealistic expectations? I can’t. The cognitive dissonance in this one is too strong. I wave the White flag. You got me - am defeated
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 04:21 AM
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Are we seriously condemning men for being selective now? Really? Are we this fucking nuts now? Women, by their nature, are picky and I have come to understand that a long time ago but it’s men’s right to also want what we want and that’s young, fertile & hot women. Just 5 minutes ago I read, within this very same subreddit mind you, “that it is extremely off-putting if men text everyone with a pulse”. Now this, my eyes. I’m open to women who don’t meet my age criteria for something long term but…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 04:13 AM
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There’s nuance to all of this. Don’t put out on date one but also don’t put out on date 64. Don’t look like a clown make up wise. Maybe aim apply make up to the degree that it appears to look natural but still enhances your appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 01:31 PM
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The men who are successful with attractive women are attractive men. If you think otherwise, you’re in denial (cope).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:23 AM
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You’re a naive fool if you think women take shit from men they are not (sufficiently) attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:47 PM
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See, you’re able to see that it is your chin and not your pick up like or color of your polo shirt that holds you back. Being psychologically more resilient, you may outcompete your less resilient peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:44 PM
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They don't have the funds first and foremost and secondly having to admit that one's face, that is inherently you, would need to be reworked rather than one's pickupline would take some objectivity/humility.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:38 PM
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Women are not attracted to being treated badly. They are treated badly by men they are attracted to. Treating them badly as a low value man is not effective This does NOT (necessarily) indicate that women are into men that are abusive. It's that they'd tolerate an abusive man IF he's attractive. You're talking about intellgience check when your reading comprehension is mediocre at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:31 PM
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It's pure desperation. Tricking one's mind into believing that it is what you do or say rather than who you are is what matters gives men hope and motivation to continue. Most men these days would absoultely crumble under the weight of truth which is why they lie to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:30 PM
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I don't think that's an accurate description of most incels. They know what it is that women want and they also know that whatever it is, it is inherently not them. Generally speaking, they seem to be grounded enough to know that women don't work like a math formula that when you do/say x, they'll jump onto your dick. Women like attractive men first and foremost just like men like attractive women first and foremost. That's all there is to say really.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:23 PM
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Say what? Women, just like men, place immense importance on physical fitness, that is appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:13 PM
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Women are not attracted to being treated badly. They are treated badly by men they are attracted to. Treating them badly as a low value man is not effective water wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:02 PM
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Content is basically as deep as "water is wet". Simple as. Everyone knows this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 04:45 PM
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It’s not made up. It’s a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 09:57 PM
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You do - you just don’t know it or more specifically, you are not aware of them but you do them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 08:53 PM
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With how you worded it, I’m sure you’re one of them. I know when I come across like-minded people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:15 PM
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The most privileged demographic in this market is (contrary to popular even here) extraordinarily attractive men. They face never-before seen demand from (attractive) women. For them, it’s picking between Porsche, Ferrari, Mercedes and Lamborghini and all that for free. Top tier men are the highest tier market participants because of their (perceived) scarcity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:06 PM
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All women want attractive, neurotyical (charming), and well-of men. Just like all men want women who are attractive, young, submissive, kind, etc. (Almost) everyone wants those it's just that some can realistically demand those while others can't but (almost) everyone most definitely goes for the above traits. It's mostly encoded in our DNA to select for said qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 04:55 PM
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truly good men don't have to be proactive about it. good as in "attractive" - yeah, that's how it works. The rest is not really wanted by women. To get women, just be what they want, that is largely attractive, charming, and financially stable. That's all. No wall of text, just be what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:27 PM
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Oh, really? Care to explain where exactly my error in reason lies?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:44 PM
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Of course it is. Economics = Human action, that is reaching purposeful ends with scarce means.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:34 PM
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Of course it is. You invest time and energy doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:27 PM
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Well, that one would require retro perspective and self reflection, at least to some degree. I am afraid this isn’t the strongest suit of the modern man. ROI calculations have turned into Calc for the younger generations of both men and women. A real toughy apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:15 PM
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Flirting is being oneself and be (perceived as) attractive by genetic makeup. Being bad at flirting is being oneself and be (perceived as) inferior by genetic makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:04 PM
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I never understood that notion. Each and every men, almost regardless of age group, wants to get to the pants of young women therefore their waaaay more self-confident that an older (though more experienced) woman. Men want young women because they're fertile (=hot). That's it for the most part. Young piece of ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:35 PM
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OP is unable to comprehend that beggars can’t be choosers. A real toughy apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:41 AM
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Yes, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:51 PM
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Because it is inherently degrading. With how I used to go about it, the term simply meant that I wouldn't disclose my hand (intentions). Apart from that, I would say that I was very respectful and sensible with what I said and did. Inbefore you say "but you didn't reveal/were true with your intentions and that is immoral." Yes, that's true but I can look myself in the mirror. The women had fun and I had fun and I didn't force them into anything and neither did the women have to force me. Also, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:50 PM
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What does having a strategy like "pump and dump" have to do with the notion of sex being degrading to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:31 PM
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Why would you hear the "reasoning" of people whose brains are clearly not functioning well? Like, why would you listen to a schizophrenic person insisting that there's an elephant in the next room when there clearly isn't? If an individual is evidently dumb, crazy, and/or evil, why would I care about his or her train of thought? I don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:27 PM
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Why do men believe sex is degrading to women? Or they want it to be? Why do (enough) women believe that anecodtal evidence justifies generalizations like that? That's really not how civilizied people use their brains. Following made up scenario: I went to the gym last Friday (on a side-note: acutally skipped it) and saw an incredible strong woman. Like a woman so strong that she could put 9/10 men at the gym in their place physically. Now, would it be appropriate/intelligent/justified/reasonable…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:14 PM
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MGTOW was mostly, though not exclusively, a redpill pseudo-science movement. Men don't usually go their own way. Women MADE THEM go their own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 06:36 PM
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Love and it’s not even close. It’s much more fulfilling and I’d say, over the course of one’s life, also more rewarding. Sex without love is like coffee without milk. Meehh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 06:19 AM
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RP is for sub 100 IQ losers who either can’t or do not want to come to terms with reality. I’m amazed that this ideology that is largely just about grifting is still followed and advocated so fiercely. But yeah, inferior intelligence and/or desperation cause for distortions of reality. No surprise here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:11 PM
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Multiple sex toys are available for men. Obviously it's not the same. A meh substitute good at best. “pussy” is a body part of an actual human being. A living, breathing person worthy of respect. Oh, really? I thought it was a body part related to a (non-human) creature that men have to tame, control and eventually coerce. Thanks for this enlightening update, Sharp.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 06:57 PM
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What would you do if your son was unsuccesful with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:58 PM
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I'd have to evaluate the situation. It's a trade-off between satisfying the burning desire that haunts him and the possible negative consequences that are likely to follow. A man who is forced to go without pussy (paid or not) is going to be miserable. If there is reasonable potential, I would strongly advise him to not seek such services. If he is a miserable man to begin with, with no realistic chance of getting it “naturally”, then I don't think there's much to destory, but chance to gain a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:44 PM
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I wouldn't mind if you DM me and introduce some points
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:08 PM
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Yeah, I suppose that’s correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:25 PM
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You guys are also the most stinky and raping “men” on the face of the world, jeet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:02 AM
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You guys shower in cow shit, Pajeet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 06:54 AM
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I'm not insecure, Jon. I can't help but think of you as Weasel, Jon.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:50 PM
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Chad is their own race Every pajeet, ever. You keep ignoring empiricism on this subject. I don't really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:43 PM
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Again, I wasn't sure which is why I approached this matter with a question mark in the end, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:50 PM
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Okay, Jon.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:13 PM
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Are you in Scandinavia or like the Netherlands or something lol? Because 6’1 is top 20% most places. Close enough. Somewhere in that region. Decent physique is probably top 20% as well. Average physique is honestly pretty off putting when so many people are just fat. By decent physique I mean slightly toned. Like you can tell that I'm at the gym every now and then. You realize having those all together as a package puts you higher right? Because these traits are not distributed in a way that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:07 PM
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being 6'1 in North-Western EU =/= being 6'1 in NA Would you say 5'11 is "kinda tall" in the USA? If yes, then 6'1 is the equivalent among GEN Z men which I'm part of. All in all, I agree that you're in that percentile but I have the feeling (of course without having seen you, so take it with a grain of salt) that you're not top 30% just by phenotype otherwise you would invoke those reactions every once in a while. I'd say you are top 5-10% easily if you are above 6 foot, have a good physique, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:04 PM
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Absolutely not. Where I'm from 6'1 is like a tad better than okay. It's not a "woow, look at that guy, he's tall" kind of height. It's more of a "look, he's kinda tall" height. I know my place but thank you for your good words.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:53 PM
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That's litterally not how it works where I'm from and I'm not talking samples but thank you very much for your interactive and thoughtful comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:51 PM
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Right... do they also usually tell patients to put it in your jacket so their bosses don't get wind of it? Classic business procedure in your everyday Dental practice I'm sure. Pardon my arrogance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:50 PM
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Facially, I'm around a 7/10, 6'1, White, and have a decent physique. I'd imagine that's up there in that top 30% territory. I get smiles in the gym, blushes from the Bakery employee, free toothpaste and rinse from the dental assistant, etc. Admittedly, I'm not good-looking enough to envoke those reactions on a daily or even weekly basis but those things consistently happen to me. Like every other month and I live in a rather competetive environment in Western Europe. If you don't get those react…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:14 PM
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Your proposal requires tripple digit IQ to digest. I don't think OP is anywhere near that. Let him and the naive people who find this plausible piss away their finite time. ROI calculations seem to be a real toughy as of lately, especially for men on this sub. Desperation is a hell of a drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:56 PM
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Men, on average, do still outearn women altough the difference is gradually narrowing. The "issue" if you will is that women in free & wealthy socities without religious/conservative boundaries tend to act a certain way. Men, too, (the minority who can) tend to act a certain way in those socities. An increasing minority of men are not trying anymore because a dating world with (close to) zero regulations tends to leave 80-95% of men behind. It's not that men suddenly, out of the blue, started to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:21 PM
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I can only speak for myself but I have no racial preference. I very much appreciate you prefacing this in this time and age were exceptions > rules. However, women, on average, tend to prefer White men except for Black women. That is the empirical data on that matter. I personally greatly prefer White women and I don't see any moral issue with it whatsoever. Race is something that is inherently part of you but so is your height. Both are encoded in your genetic material. Yet we distinguish moral…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:01 PM
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What exactly does a ‘Chad’ look like? Chad = someone that is regarded as (highly) attractive by an overwhelming majority of women. People like Pierce Brosnan, Brad Pitt (e.g. in Troy), Chico Lachowski, Alain Delon, Alessandro Dellisola. That is people who clearly stand out in the crowd merely by virtue of their genetic make-up (phenotype in that case). Female equivalents would be Monica Bellucci, Catherine Zeta Jones, Karen Mulder, and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:27 PM
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By the very metric that keeps the genetic pool as healthy and fit as humanely possibly - exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:48 PM
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Good social skills + physically unattractive generally gets a guy friendzoned, unless the woman is sufficiently desperate +1
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:42 PM
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Being socially competent (for a lack of better words) is the second most important trait. You can be very outgoing, charming, witty, charismatic, and so forth but if you (desperately) lack the vital traits, you're f@cked. Women want to see the tall, white, handsome, broad-shouldered, full-head-of-hair, etc. breed of men. Everything else (social competency) is secondary. The same is true for men. You can be this sweet, kind, nourtiring woman but if you don't look presentable (as in what men seek …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:40 PM
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You don’t get it, do you? If you think women are stupid or naive enough to put themselves in an environment where they are intoxicated with a man they find unattractive (to put it politely), then you’re just wrong. Women select, and by and large, they are efficient at it. A man who goes religiously to the gym but is 5’7 also won’t trick Mother Nature quite literally. You keep telling yourself whatever makes you happy, though. I don’t want to take away your last straw. Sounds like you need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:28 PM
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Men here are largely frustrated. They know that they cannot argue their way in a woman’s pants or long term relationship. Men who religiously discuss and post here, on average, lack in the physical and/or psychological aspects and those are fixed for the most part which causes frustration and desperation. With that, there usually comes a surplus of free time. I want to say 8-9/10 men here have a sufficient idea of what it is that women look for in men. Problem is that it’s often the opposite of …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:56 PM
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So ten years ago, I've watched Sandman, Richard Cooper, Rollo Tomasi, and lastly, Aaron Clarey. Out of all the content creators I mentioned, I could really only draw useful & reality-based information out of Aaron Clarey and that was 10ish years ago. The rest were (probably are) professional bullshitters.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:27 PM
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It's not really 'a cultre' as many tend to misnomer it. Women in (relatively) wealthy & free socities simply don't lust after most men yet they still have sexual needs to be fullfilled. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out which breed of men it is that constantly meets this demand. This is nature, not a culture we cultivate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:24 PM
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If you desire female attention, be what they want. It's as simple as that. If you can't possibly be(come) that, give up. That's all there is to say really. It's not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:18 PM
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women have an aundance of BOTH casual and romantic options 100 cm = 1m Ronald Reagan was the 40th President of the United States of America Concord is the capital of New Hampshire The life expectancy of Turkish men is at 76.03 years as of 09/04/2024, 1 USD = .9 EUR water is wet
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:36 PM
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Is that what you got out of this comment fr? "I’m not shocked at all that men have negative views of women." Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:08 PM
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I love how men say shit like this Don't make the mistake of assuming that he gathers a majority with his opinion because he doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:40 PM
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Women resent men by default This is nothing but ill-willed propaganda. Women don't typically resent men. They just can't be bothered with (the attention of) most, that is average, men. Men are more viewed like an annoying fly that swirs around one's head but people don't outright HATE or RESENT a fly for that. You hate the rapist of your daughter or the man that killed your spouse. Average men trigger a feeling of indifference in women or, if they are too offensive/intrusive, a feeling of annoya…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:39 PM
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If dating is too hard, give up. Go work on something more valuable. In order to get a mate? Absolutely not. In order to get a quality mate? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:30 PM
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Oh, reaaaaaaally, Caption Obvious? Wooow. Thank you for original & enlighting insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:29 AM
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It’s undoubtedly the more (time) efficient advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:31 AM
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Taxes (which I do NOT endorss at all) are almost irrelevant to what I wrote. Civilized societies apply the division of labor. If people around you stop their production, you can't trade in your excess goods for their (excess) goods which is the whole point of division of labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:30 PM
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How exactly is it short sighted? It has been that way generations before and it will be just like that for generations to come. Men will chase tail (that is compete for scarce ressources--> produce) in order to impressive/get da gurzla. For a good amount of them, it won't work out. It's no coincidence that we have more female ancestors than we have male. Just because you don't like reality, doesn't mean it's wrong or "short-sighted". I suggest you interalize the follwing video: https://youtu.be/…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:27 PM
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men as a colletive can decide to boycott women based on something outside of their control and women will have to adapt to that just as much as men have to adapt when women are the ones doing that. Oh, they absolutely can but most don't. Truth is a majority of men can't and/or doesn't want to see reality for what it is. I'm saying that I'm fortunate by that and every other person that is interested in a wealthy society. Because it's not, it interacts with a million other markets and overall men …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:23 PM
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I think so but men are also lying when they say they want the truth probably due to the aforementioned fact that they cannot handle it. You're right. On average, men can't handle it. They've been told otherwise and unlike their ancestors, they don't have a strong stomach to swallow that pitter pill. When a woman does say she wants a man who is 6,5 trustfund blue eyes, men get angry As I said, I don't think there's any inherent right/reason to be angry for another person's expressed preferences. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 04:22 PM
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Not getting any is certainly an important part of the equation but its not the ONE reason. The following video doesn an okay job of explaining what changes took place between now and say 50-60 years ago. https://youtu.be/oXIsEHFCBns?si=BwM1gNsBZhcneULv
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:53 PM
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looks/money/statues This is largely denied by both women AND men. Women do it in order to virtue signal. They typically don't measure heigh in disagreeableness which is why they'll largely say whatever is politically correct. In that case, "it's the way you dress, Bob" or "be more nice and eventually you'll end up lucky, Dan". Men do it in order to remain sane. Most men would crumble under the weight of above truth which is why they lie to themselves/don't face reality. It's self-preservation. G…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:43 PM
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Of course it is. Salarly correlates with traits like intelligence (IQ), conscientiousness, looks, height, neurotypicality (charism), and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:34 PM
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"Women are Shallow/Boring/Uninteresting" Personally, I feel like this is true for a majority of people (men included). It just happens to be worse with women as far as I'm concerned. I think you're picturing it as if men are only after the "divine p" and nothing else. Question: If that really were the case, why then do most men just not rent a hooker when they're horny and go about the rest of the day how they like? It's almost as if men go after women for attributes other than their privates/bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:29 PM
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Not even mathematically but by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:31 PM
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Ouch. Just ouch. But also very much the reality of things
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:23 AM
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Most "nice guys" drop clear signs that they like you, women just play dumb and pretend its him just joking "Nice guys" are extra nice for a reason. It's because without being over the top "nice" they feel like they can't compete which probably is true to some extent. Naturally, women don't throw themselves at such men. We all know what women want and "nice guys" usually are the opposite of that. If you want to have succes with the opposite sex, be what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:08 PM
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I was hinting at exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:24 AM
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Ten words that combined have such a deep meaning and solution and all in one sentence is just a real toughy for me. Next thread “water wet” or “ball round”? Looking forward to your intellectual and thought provoking threads in the future. Maybe I’ll able to follow until then, Einstein.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:39 PM
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The problem is I can’t. It’s above my intellectual pay grade. I’m not even sure I have properly processed your thesis in the headline. It’s that brilliant.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:33 PM
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Dating would be easier if most men stoped being thirsty. Wow, genius reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:25 PM
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Men compete with each other for scarce resources on a much larger scale than do women with each other. Therefore, a broken man is nothing (most) men are concerned about. There are busy establishing themselves and competing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:24 PM
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You don’t “have to” do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:20 PM
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Most of my contemporaries are socialists, environmentalists, gender-fluid, genocide endorsers (or at the very least tolerators) or plain shallow and often also dull people. I, too, like flashy cars, “pussy”, and yes, also sports but I’m fucking gone if that’s all you have for me. Women also don’t care too much about your friends (lack thereof). I’ve gotten laid AND in relationships with a well below average social life (quantitatively speaking). Women, just like men screen for a) looks (physical…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:12 PM
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It has completely different meanings for men and women Is that really the case? What about (non-gender specific) markers of superior genes such as symmetry, proportionality of features, height, skin clearness, smell, etc? "people like attractive people" That's litterally how dating works, though. The only difference among the sexes is that women have a (much) lower disgust tolerance which makes for an inherent market imbalance. Women, by design of nature, are the genetic quality control.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:13 PM
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Because women, on average, aren't attracted to (most) men. That's why (most) women don't approach men. You litterally have to live under a rock to not know this by 2024.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:04 PM
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I like how it’s mostly men who deny the fact of the (relative) freedom we have in the current dating economy. I guess it is a very tough pill to swallow that Mother Nature rejects you and not “technology, bro”.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:45 AM
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Economics = human behavior/choices in the context of the appropriation of scarce “resources “. Last time I checked, there’s a finite amount of both women and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:43 AM
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It is a market as free as it gets. 200 years ago a women couldn’t open a Bank account let alone work to make her own living. We have plenty of interventionist policies that are in place but intersexual relationships were never as deregulated as they are now which is precisely why a growing number of men can’t get their sick wet if they their life would depend on it. The (mostly) independent and free women reject them and their genetic heritage. That’s really all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:41 AM
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West uses free markets (more or less)= wealth and freedom North Korea goes with a planned economy = poverty and coercion. Double digit IQ Reddit user: “Fuck free markets bro - they make for a greedy and toxic society”. Small economics lesson for you: https://youtu.be/RWsx1X8PV_A?si=fiqkGq4APc2NWJB9
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:38 AM
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The internet, ironically, created an environment “more natural than nature” by severely weakening the influence phyiscal safety and proximity have. People will deny this vehemently so that they can blame it on “technology, bro”. When it’s really Nature+. Though pill to swallow and accordingly denied.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:34 AM
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Exactly even if I had a Harem of willing and pleasant Monica Bellucci’s around me in that 3rd world country. Again, I much prefer freedom and wealth and I think men who strive and struggle for pussy build exactly those societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:04 PM
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Don’t get me wrong there’s nothing quite like pussy and that after talk after having had fun but I say “no, fuck, no” to a society in which there are no/hardly/less cars, buildings, roads, TVs, heatings, planes, computers and more coercion and state control. There are parts of this world that at least partially describe this hypothetical scenario. In those parts I wouldn’t live, even if I had a (plethora of) willing and kind Monica Bellucci at my side. I’d have to live and raise my offspring bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:57 PM
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Again, the 1 : 2 cut would mean that I get significantly less freedom and wealth all of which primarily men have produced and strived for. Men tend to get lazy and unproductive if they have a relatively good and/or quick access to sex (porn; substitute good).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:50 PM
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My ideal would be what we have now, that is close to 1:1. I very much like freedom and wealth and those societies thrive on men who compete for what is most men’s number 1 objective in life: Women (sex/companionship/family/genetic legacy).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:40 PM
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As far as I'm concerned, both females and males are human. Pinapples and apples are not the same fruit. Make it make sense, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:34 PM
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In a dating economy where there are 100 men and 200 women, men would still face immense scarcity by design of nature. Women in relatively wealthy and free societies only fancy about the top 20-5% of men. Let's meet in between, and say it's top 12.5%. That's 200 women competing for 13 males. Sure, some will settle but most won't. Let's say another 7 will settle and go lower than they'd like or think they deserve. This still leaves roughly 4/5 men "unsatisfied" as far as dating/sex-life/family is …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:32 PM
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Old prostitutes are not that profitable, though. Relative to who? Young women? Absolutely. Relative to 95% of men? Absolutely NOT. You see where I'm going with this, yah? Men also don't rely as much on attraction and social validation as women Right. Jeff (35, 5'8, overweight, and bald) who works at Wells Fargo beats Ryan (35, 6'1, well build, and full head of hair) who works as a Truck Driver. It's all about the Dollar Bills, broo. Why didn't I see this earlier. I think I'm legally blind or sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:02 PM
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It's as valid as saying "men below 6ft are just friends". People are entitled to their opinion even if it is as ridiculous as "women, by the time they hit their 30s, are damaged goods". Trust me, EVERY SINGLE MEN without exception here would have sex/date/wife up an average 30 yo woman IF only they could. It's like the good 'ol school days: David didn't invite Kyle (who was really expecting an invitation) to his birthday party. Kyle: "Well, I wasn't planning on going to David's lame party anyway…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:55 PM
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I’m always saying that I think young women actually have the worst dating options and outcomes and stats back this up in the West. Okay, 2 + 2 = 5 then. It’s such a delusional revenge fantasy that is almost comical to believe in. Bitterness and envy makes for a toxic cocktail - yeah. It's on of their few fuels that keeps them going. Men who deeply believe in that are completely broken usually. There is a shift but when you balance it with how absolutely trash young women’s relationships often ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:46 PM
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Your picturing it so it fits your narrative. The truth is that an average woman of 50-60 years of age could charge a three-digit amount of money for 1h with her body. An average man, irrespective of age, gets ZERO demand for his body. If value 100 (women's value) loses 66%, it still leaves you with a respectable market value of 33. If value 1 (most men's value) loses 66%, it'll leave you with 0.33. Women will lose quiet a bit (not in her 30s btw) but they still had wonderful interactions, benefi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:41 PM
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Why do men demonize women over 30 so much? Revenge fantasies that are not based in reality. Women in their 60s have more sexual market value (and thus power/leverage) than men in their 30s and that’s where men are supposedly in their prime. It’s just another coping mechanism, that is coming to terms with the fact that they are not desirable (enough). —> A sorrow shared is a sorrow halved.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 06:50 PM
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Flair with "common sense" but mistakes the symptom for the cause. Men who donate hundres of Dollars in Twitch Streams to half nude cam-girls are Simps because they think that's their only way to compete with superior men. It's an indicator great desperation and sorrow but not the cause. Nobody wakes up and decides to simp 24/7 in a Twitch Chat. Those are (and were before their simping activities) bottom of the barrel men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:03 AM
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Women and men are equally shallow. Men just can't control their sexual urges like women can which makes for a gigantic loop-sided market place as far as supply and demand is concerned. The difference is that all men what to have FWBS, situationships, girlfriends, and wives that look like Monica Bellucci BUT (and that's where men and women differ) before they don't get their dick wet they'll go as low as necessary in order to have regular sexual access to a woman. Women, on the other hand, all wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:57 AM
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Attractiveness for men is less based on looks and more on status though, The truth sucks. I don't blame you for negating reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:50 PM
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Men are navigating in waters (free market) they don't know, let alone understand. In (relatively) free and wealthy socities, (sexually/romantically) unsuccesful men ALWAYS lack the same (innate) qualities. They are lied to by people who want to make profits off of their (perceived) inferiority and said men often also lie to themselves in order to maintain sanity (self-preservation).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:09 PM
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Well, I don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:54 AM
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Arguing with commies in 2024 is a rookie mistake. Nice try, though. You better make sure that you don’t contradict yourself any more, yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:51 AM
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I could try doing that but it would more likely than not result in a piss poor ROI. After all, disciples of Marx and his wicked ideas believe that Communism, that is “real Communism” never existed. That we should try to “correctly” implement it. Millions over Millions of human deaths are collateral damage after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:47 AM
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It’s just midwits who “read Marx, dude” kind of reasoning. At least 1/3 of Reddit Socialists/Communists would fail to accurately define their ideology. “It’s just hip, yo. Definitions don’t matter, Schmuck.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:29 AM
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Ye, I only skimmed through that mad man’s writing. He’s clearly mental. No doubts about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:19 AM
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I’m against Coercion with regard to women but I (CommieRedEyes) endorse it in all other forms of life. Communism rocks, baby! No contradiction whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:17 AM
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Your welcome. A wall of texts indicates a surplus of time. A surplus of time indicates low (zero) opportunity costs. Zero opportunity cost when posting on Reddit indicates that someone is not right in the head and/or miserable. That’s how it goes usually on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:02 AM
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Women’s sexuality is inherently bad and must be suppressed for the good of mankind! Hey guys, I’m unable to compete for women in a free market economy. Therefore, I think it’s highly plausible AND moral to use coercion on these feral creatures we call women. TL;DR: I can’t get my dick wet —> coercion. PPD daily coercion thread. ✅
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:51 AM
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Attracting women is rather binary. You have what it takes and (if necessary) cultivate it or you don’t. Women can (quite literally) smell bad genes and usually they will discriminate against those men. Men would do the same but they don’t have nearly as much (willing) supply which is why they mostly take what they can and not necessarily what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:07 PM
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I 100% believe you, I do but as I said, I go by probablities. I'm too tired and exhausted mentally to deal with (mostly) psycho women. I don't think the supply of men is a problem for women, anyway, so your friends really shouldn't have problems if they tackle their shortcomings and get some more experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:55 PM
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I don't disrespect anyone that I don't know (their backstory of). I just leave them be if I think we're incompatible. I'm a man that navigates his life by probabilities, odds, and averages. If I perceive what I think would make an attractive mate or even average mate (by appearance) but she is (chronically) single I just assume that they're crazy, insufferable, jaded or outright evil. I've met women who were all four of them combined. Women do this, too, and by and large, they're right. Yes, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:50 PM
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Well, if a particular reality (insight) translates to an additional amount of work & labor, people choose to not live by reality. That is applicable to both men and women. That's why we have "fat acceptance" amongst other things. It's for women that choose to ignore reality (which is that men, generally speaking are repusled by fat women) in order to avoid work, labor and discipline --> da gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:36 PM
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when dating, the burden should be on males to prove themselves The burden IS on males by the very design of male and female biology. Very rarely you have men who have a long list of "applicants" which they then choose from... It's like saying 9 should be greater than 8. Well, turns out 9 is already greater than 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:25 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:58 AM
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I (male/25) have the following standards: (Reasonably) not crazy, Libertarian-Conservative, middle class income/education, no tattoos, at least 5’6, White, good hygiene, at least reasonably attractive in my mind +6/10. I think that’s about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:40 PM
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No no, you’re supposed to do it for yourself so that you feel good and confident. Everyone knows that The audacity to tell her that she’s supposed to draw her motivation to wear makeup from anywhere but men and the “everyone knows that” to top it off with a little bit of arrogance and over confidence. Love to see it. Not only men but also women on here come as crazy as they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:30 AM
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She’s trolling for stating a legitimate motivation that by the way increases (quality of) reproductive success. Craaazy. It’s almost as if people, generally speaking, try hard to look presentable for the opposite sex. What a shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:22 AM
1

Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:25 PM
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Women do the choosing and men (the percentage who make the cut) reciprocate upon hints or not. Men who have to approach (without previous indicators of interest) are called creeps because they're undesirable (unattractive) and as a consequence, often socially akward. Creep really IS befitting there a lot of the time. If you're called creep repeatedly, it's a sign that your sanity is leaving you as per Einstein's definition: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:47 PM
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Yet people ask this question on this subreddit alone at least twice per day. So there’s still a ton of people who (unlike me) aren’t geniuses or (less flattering) there are a bunch of spineless and pussified “men” who don’t don’t want to acknowledge reality for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:03 AM
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Not at all how it works. The qualities women discriminate against the most are as “hard” as they can be. Facial attractiveness, height, neurotypicality, race, etc. If it was easy appealing to a wider range of women, we wouldn’t have daily threads discussing coercion with regard to women. Men who (by their genetic makeup) are NOT what women want have become EXTREMELY desperate because they see no out but coercion for their misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:11 AM
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If you want to get laid effectively there are two options. 1) be attractive 2) be sufficiently wealthy and pay women for their work (spreading their legs for you) It’s really not that complicated of a problem. Two options. Be what they want or pay what they want. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:48 PM
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God, it’s so sexy when women are using concise logic. That’s how every free market in this world operates by. The one who serves (others wants) the best gets compensated the most. Easy. “B-but I’m only 5’8 and in my experience that’s not what the Monica Bellucci’s of my generation look for in men.” Tough shit. Guess you don’t get da Bellucci’s of this world. Most men don’t get ‘em. “Reeeeee”. Every other zoomer ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:46 PM
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Men stay within their league, women shoot way out of theirs. Everybody does exactly what they can do. If most men, similar to a good amount of women, were able to punch above their weight class, they absolutely would do it. Most men fight for leftovers because they have to. Men are not some extra moral beings who date/fuck/marry within/below their league because it’s a noble thing to do but simply because they’re “forced” to do it by simple supply and demand. Men would ABSOLUTELY use the privile…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:34 PM
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A "who hurt you" would be very much appropriate but you already covered that so there's that. You need therapy. Not all men are your father.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:10 AM
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Oh, the money-excuse. Let me correct you: "Attractive men take up all the women."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:39 PM
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Why do people say Tinder doesn’t work? It’s just an interface that mirrors real life dating preferences Because it’s on the ego to easier externalize flaws. “Fuck the apps, dude” is way better than saying “Welp, I guess my genetic material doesn’t cut it on a market place like that”. Most men would simply crumble under the weight of truth which is why they conveniently lie to themselves. It’s an act of self preservation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 04:16 PM
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every ass-faced fatty on Tinder thinks she has the God given right to a man with the body of a Greek god and a ten inch cock And what's the cause of these delusions within many women? Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:29 PM
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You can’t work towards being desired by women. The vital characteristics are predetermined. You’re referring to working towards a transactional relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 04:38 AM
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Are you illiterate? He said “average”. It’s almost as if “excellent” doesn’t go well with “average”. Can a man of average height ever become a NBA star? Well, if he’s 6,5 and he’s talented, then he’s certainly. Right because 6’5 and “talented” are average attributes in humans. Reading comprehension course failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 04:35 AM
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Just be a walking ATM, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 04:31 AM
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Since the music talk is now a thing, as far as taste in music, what do you consider a red and green flag? If she likes my spotify list, she got taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:13 PM
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I see, you're active in the passport-bro department. So you're very much familar with paying to get your dick wet. I happen to prefer "genuine-desire-sex". People have different tastes. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:42 AM
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I skimmed through it and noticed it, yes. And you still wrote the wall of China in test only to state "Chad-only".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:35 AM
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A wall of text for "chad-only". How exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:25 AM
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He's paying for sex. There's a difference between being wanted for your genetic make vs. being wanted for your wallet. Just check on the clients of your local brothel. Do they look happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:23 AM
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I know it's a pleasant thought when going to bed that "you can grind your way up there if you just try hard enough" but money really isn't that important. Women, especially in wealthy countries (Western World) select for the scarcest ressource in the world. A ressource which you can't work towards: genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:11 AM
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Whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:58 AM
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Commies not making it through natural selection. That's good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:56 AM
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I'm glad you were able to relate to my reply! I do think going to work without makeup is saying “I don’t care enough to put in any effort” and is unprofessional. I'd second that, generally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:52 PM
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Men who have had a lot of casual sex have worse pair-bonding abilities It is one of the main reasons why I stopped seeking casual arrangements with women BUT I think this problem is definitely more prevalent and pronounced in women than it is in men. It may sound esotertic (probably because it is) but I'm fairly confident that I can see it in a woman's eyes whether she's impaired in that regard or not (the degree to which). I've noticed a similar (dull, dead-inside, sorrowful) gaze in men I knew…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:51 PM
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Supply (women) just meets demand (men) in that market. Same as for any other market. A sign of the decadent and degenerate times we're living in. Oh, absolutely but you and me can do nothing about it. Zero. It is what it is. The good thing is that we're in a for exciting decades to come. Society can't sustain itself like that forever. It'll get spicy down the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:44 PM
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Male, White, 6'1, Libertarian, reasonably not crazy (neurodivergent to a degree though), reasonably attractive, mid 20s, (slightly) above average notch count, middle class income. I see 1-2 points where I might be hypocritical. I own that up but I think I'm mostly being realisitc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:09 PM
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My stats in comparison?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:47 PM
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Build yourself and your dream partner: Female, White, 5'7ish, Libertarian, reasonably not crazy, reasonable attractive, early-mid 20s, low notch count, middle class background. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:44 PM
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arbitrarily weird reason as "she's had sex before". it's absolutely not arbitrary. disposition, moral range, values, humor, goals, educational background, regional culture, political leaning ect ect. you do realize that all those "attributes" correlate (highly) with the above, ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:36 PM
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I admire your efforts, I do, but at the same time I find it worrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:39 PM
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Just be more confident, brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:08 PM
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Even if they would reject that “offer”, most other men wouldn’t. The desperation levels are at never before seen highs. We’re living in an economy where more and more men are willing to spent decent money on female bathing water.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:00 PM
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Honestly, why does this competition matter? Yeah, you're right. Just goes to show the resignation of the average men. Those are threads which I'd imagine 14yo to open but it's mostly 24 yo. It's sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 07:04 PM
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Men who are not conventionally attractive, why not date a bi woman/queer women who are into men? make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:56 PM
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Your text is the farthest away from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:50 PM
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You’re an irrational twat yourself. Stop slamming women, mgt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 03:41 AM
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Fgt
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 03:39 AM
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Men don't know what they're talking about when they demand less make-up or no make up at all in women. The fallacy in that is that they believe that there's a natural beauty like Monica Bellucci behind that make up when there really isn't (in most cases). Those are guys who are (genuinely) concerned about your health/well-being once they see you without make-up. If less (or no) make up would be benefical to female attractiveness as judged by men, women realistically wouldn't wear it. The word th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:12 AM
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The issue here, I think, isn't that men are outright lying, it's that they don't know how much makeup the average woman is wearing. Correct - case closed. It's a "you think you do, but you don't" kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:05 AM
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What exactly is there to debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:21 PM
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A rare spawn of common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:59 PM
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Just fight against human nature, bro. (That is to deceive others in other to present oneself in a certain light) Surely, you are the chosen one who's going to bring balance to the force.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:24 PM
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How do you know what sex is? I can't - I simply can not. You won. Everything I said is some nonsensical jibberish.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:10 PM
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How do you know you truly want to reproduce? How do you know that you truly want to drink and eat? Well, it just so happens that eating (self-sustenance) serves one of the two genetic imperatives of life. Those are 1) self-sustaining oneself and 2) reproduction. That's why all less sophisticated animals are either busy with fucking or eating. It's not that complex unless of course one's ego can't admit errors in reasning. Than it's really fucking hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:06 PM
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I "want" women because I want to reproduce. That's mostly it. All else, is secondary motivation AT BEST. People who are unable to grasp this simply refuse to put up with Science.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:02 PM
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I am attracted AND! want women because of my biology. That doesn't imply that I don't respect the freedom of association of women (humans in general). Not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:56 PM
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Just stop socializing men from a young age to treat getting girls as a status symbol. I was brought up and socialized in a country that fits under "modern Western civilization". It's not the environment that drives you but you're genetic make up... My environment wants me to believe that inflation is good or that fat women are attractive. Well, take a guess how I feel about those. Men want women because it's in their coding and not because society tells them to "have to have them" like a Mercede…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:45 PM
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There's also this weird thing here where guys think if you're a physically attractive man you must be this horrible beast with no other redeemable qualities. It's a (rather obvious) coping mechanism. If people (women do this too btw) can't deal with a reality they'll deny or distort it. It's just too painful on most men's ego/psychee.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:43 PM
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Men aren't upset about looks mattering, what men even blackpillers are upset at is people downplaying looks and saying they don't matter in some cases. It's a very stupid platitude just like "money doesn't matter really" when the average person spends 1/3 of their life grinding for it. Embrace the fact that people will lie, especially about the things they deem most important because they don't want to be perceived as "shallow". Just suck it up already.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:41 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:40 PM
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Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women. Exactly. I mean this is common sense. It matters to all of us and those who can (more often than not women) are as picky about it as they can realistically afford to be. Men (the minority who can) behave the VERY SAME WAY.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:23 PM
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That difference in ease of access to sex is what most men are bitter about haha. Well, it's very fucking stupid to blame women for this market dynamic when MEN ENABLE IT. How is that so hard to grasp?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:21 PM
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Why are women allowed to have needs but men are always not entitled to a relationship? Supply and demand. 5'8 Bob from accounting isn't "allowed" to have needs. 6'1 Pierce Brosnan (Holywood star) is allowed to have needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:41 PM
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Another 💦 post by my favorite jeet ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:24 PM
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Blah blah blah… It’s not early 2010s where this was a secret to ignorant people. Everyone knows that average men are having (serious) problems with attracting women. As a man the recipe is the following: just be attractive (unironically) “B-but I was born 5’6 and/or without a chin.” Too bad. People don’t care about what you don’t have. They care about what you offer. Men are 100% the same but due to supply and demand they are willing to eat crumbs whereas women don’t (also based on supply and de…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 06:32 PM
0

The Average women is more attractive than the avg man Low IQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 06:26 PM
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Mgt
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:28 PM
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Dating apps – even though they worked for me as I don't want to be a hypocrite every men ever that is writing nearly 24/7 on looks and how it realtes to (romantic) life or lack thereby. I mean it's logical that the top 5% Chads of this world rott on the internet and stress the importance of looks instead of actually enjoying themselves. Just like the finance dude-bro's that make 250k right out university on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:54 PM
1

DMs
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:40 PM
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If sex was purely physical, just masturbating would be enough. It's funny that you think this contradicts OP's (fairly obvious) reasoning. Jizzing in your hand (or pocket vagina I imagine) doesn't quite replicate the experience of an "authentic vagina". Of course, it's more than that (hearing each other's breath, heartbeat, etc.) but jizzing is definitely not on the same physical level than intercourse. It's just not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:56 PM
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Dunno man, I’m not thirty yet. Likewise. It’s not that a midlife crisis man is on the other side of the internet that is unable to cope with his decreasing appeal. I’ve been utterly grossed out by every man beyond two or three years older I don’t think this is the norm. Certainly isn’t for the few gals within my social circle. Studies show men wildly overestimate their appeal, but women “let them down gently” because we don’t want to get hurt. I agree, generally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 08:27 AM
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I think the female equivalent of, say, 50 year old Brad Pitt or Pierce Brosnan has less appeal. It would be consistent with breeding and that is what life (attraction certainly) is all about by our coding at least. 50yo Pierce Brosnan likely reproduces whereas 50yo Nicole Kidman most likely doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 10:12 PM
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I’ve had pleasant experiences with women for the most part (both romantic and platonic alike) but the nature of my personality (trying to understand what I think is important in life to the best of my ability) drew me to the various pills. I absorbed what I think is factual or highly probable and left the rest aside. Even if things go South, I think I’ll never be the guy that subscribes to a “pill”.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 10:04 PM
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I think it’s pretty obvious that the genders discriminate differently against old vs.short. Women are less forgiving with regard to height (or lack thereof) but may give in to more refined, older men (silver fox). Men are less forgiving with regard to youth (lack thereof rather) but tend to forgive “variation” with regard to height. Again, no hard feelings. Merely empiricism.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:55 PM
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What is love? Let’s explore the concept. Baby don’t hurt me?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:30 PM
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Unless they have redeeming qualities about them, older women are not going/able to compete with younger women. “Old” is akin to “short” in the below context: Short men are unable to compete with taller men, generally speaking. It’s not what women look for in men. Just like a lady that is of “advanced age” is not something men look for in women. I’ll embrace the downvotes, ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:26 PM
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Lmao asking women to be honest about looks and expecting an honest aswners. What's next? You ask a politician how he will better the community? Easily one of the most based users on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:30 PM
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They faked it 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:51 AM
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You forgot redistribution wars. The (many) old people in the country want taxpayer money (pensions) and the (comparatively small number of) young people are already breaking under the weight of taxes (Ukraine war, climate change interventionism, uncontrolled immigration, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:28 AM
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Yeah, I don't fuck fat chicks. I'm not that desperate. Soz for the ones who have to restort to women like that. Most likely the guys who answer constructive agruments with ad hominems. sorry JK but sometimes I do feel like this
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:18 PM
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No, I'm not a filthy pajeet who regularly posts "water is wet" content. Thanks for asking, though!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:15 PM
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If a relationship is transactional, it is not based on love. Yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:13 PM
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Without enforced monogamy, civilization will not last. Any man who still hasn't realised why coercion is not effective (the obvious moral component aside) should watch the following video: https://youtu.be/4dPTXJMe4bU?si=lGBLb7w_WOjdZfmz important time stamps: 5:12 6:00 - 6:08 6:22 9:07 - 9:23 10:44 - 11:05 (punchline)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:19 PM
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No, forcing women into relationships against their will is not the save to civilization you think it is 🙈 By genetics, it'll cause for yet another generation of undesirable men... but it's of course the "logical" solution because, well, I can't gey my d!ck wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:02 PM
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Without enforced monogamy, civilization will not last. "I want women to have less freedom because I can't get my dick wet"-thread number 45648918948676549841654
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:54 PM
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That is a rather accurate assessment of reality. One thing is for certain. Demographics will make for a spicy future as far as the decades to come are concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:47 PM
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We want something, and then quickly learn the difficulty/time/grind required to get it, so you give up. Most men here don't know what a ROI caluclation is. If they do, they don't value their (limited!) time or show no signs of self-respect. A good amount also lie to themselve "if only I do this, then I get da gurlza" often subconciously to maintain sanity. Seeing things for what they are would drive many men into insanity. They don't have the mental fortitude of their grandfathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:34 PM
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If a relationship is transactional, it is not based on love. If an item is black, it can't be white.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:29 PM
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Self improvement is quite limited for men Reaaaaaaly? Who would've guessed. Fat brain take.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:27 PM
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Thank you for that bit of common sense. That didn’t even seem to cross OPs mind in the slightest during his writing process. Very hard and demanding train of thought apparently…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:36 PM
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Body count is mostly irrelevant with regard to male attractiveness. Locker room talk at best. What really matters is: Are you attractive? Strict Catholic 10/10 virgin = Hedonistic “variety enjoyer”, also 10/10
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:32 PM
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Women shouldn't have to do this, but unfortunately, we don't live in a perfect world, so we have to. HOOOOOOOOOOLY MOOOOOOLY. IS THAT... MY EYES...COMMON SENSE????
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:38 PM
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I can't. You're way too intelligent for me to argue this out. I got intellecutally dismantled. My analogy is absolutely inappropriate and, in fact, very much stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:25 PM
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It's not about the rolex, Einstein. It's about akowleding reality. It's not too hard to comprehend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:10 PM
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You're trying way too hard with discrediting my analogy when it's rather simple: Do you choose to aknowledge reality or do you not?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:54 PM
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People shouldn't have to worry about going out with a flashy Rolex even if they are in "da hood". Well, you're right they shouldn't BUT if they're smart, they won't do it. Smart people consider what is and not what should be. Way more efficient way of dealing with reality. People have to finally understand that this world isn't about "what should be" but "what is".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:29 PM
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That’s a long winded way of accusing every man of being unlawful simply because you don’t like what they’re doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:18 AM
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I love that argument. Every woman men screw in Thailand or the Philippines is related to sex trafficking and not because two consenting adults exchanged their respective goods. That’s like saying because there’s higher rates of obesity in the US relative to Europe that every human within the borders of the US is a fat sow. Not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:06 AM
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As long as he operates within legal boundaries, he may do whatever he pleases. If that is screwing a 20 yo Asian woman (“fresh meat”), so be it. Money in exchange for youth/beauty is a trade as old as time and as long as it’s consensual, it’s very much fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:46 AM
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In 1960, extremely high proportions of whites in both Belmont and Fishtown were married—94% in Belmont and 84% in Fishtown. In the 1970s, those percentages declined about equally in both places. Then came the great divergence. In Belmont, marriage stabilized during the mid-1980s, standing at 83% in 2010. In Fishtown, however, marriage continued to slide; as of 2010, a minority (just 48%) were married. The gap in marriage between Belmont and Fishtown grew to 35 percentage points, from just 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:00 PM
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Point was attractive girls are attracted to attractive men That still doesn't make sense. People, genereally speaking, need to breath in order to live. Green-Quantity1032: Bob needs to breah in order to live. (Well, most people kinda have to do that in order to live?) it is INCLUSIVE. It doesn't make sense to highlight it. Everyone likes attractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:48 AM
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Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 09:13 PM
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It’s a social class thing and not a matter of beta or alpha but I don’t expect you to digest that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 09:13 PM
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Attractive people want attractive people Well, not quite. Everyone (ugly, mid, attractive) wants to pair up with attractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:46 PM
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Dating apps are not healthy for the human psyche. The plain face, healthy BMI, mentally stable woman absolutely KILLS on dating apps. However, the equal male counterpart gets no attention whatsoever. OP 5 months ago. You're not going to change biology even if you post an infinite amount of threads like this. It's not going to happen. You're either attractive or you're not (with a little bit inbetween). Accordingly, life will throw opportunities at you or not. Deal with it. Men are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:31 PM
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Men make more money because they work harder jobs and put in more hours. The men make more because, well, penis "argument" is for double digit IQ intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:21 PM
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Look, another "I can't get my dick wet therefore women should lower their standards"-thread. Needless to say, men would do the very same IF only they could --> lower their standards and not just go after Stacy only and also give Becky some attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:20 PM
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I'm not sure if I follow. Would you reprahse what you just wrote so I may be able to give an answer? prostitution being a crime prostitution being a crime is related to government interventionism. You’re relying on enough people to vote to change that if that’s not what you want. huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:41 AM
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Lies in order to remain sane mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:40 PM
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(1) Most women have it (2) its just extremely rare that they can find a man who triggers it for them A fellow gen Z guy who has it figured out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:47 PM
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that's their problem then, not sure what you want me to do about that where have I indicated that your labor/effort was needed to solve this problem? If you could cite me on that, I'd appreciate it. Duh because it's my experience, l never claimed this was universal OP: HELP - I can't get da gurlza Supposedly attractive man: I've got no problems with dealing with da gurlza. Well, you've got that right, that may (or may not) be your experience but how does that address OP's concern in any meaningf…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:34 PM
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You don't outright claimed it but you literally used "what l want from a woman" in your short reply. Most men are not in a position to have a "what l want from a woman"-list. I just wanted that to be very clear. Yea obviously but l can afford not having to pay for sexual access, maybe OP and other guys here can't but l sure can Claims like this are completely meaningless on the internet. Perhaps you are swimming in p or have never seen any other than the ones on your PC monitor. Maybe you're som…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:06 PM
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Excactly. With $65,000 I get a modern out of the assembly line Mercedes E class. With $6,500, on other hand, you get a piece of shit used car from a non-premium brand. Most people can't blow $65,000 on a car but there are definitely people who can. Just don't be disappointed if you can't blow that money on a car. Most peopel can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:01 PM
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If the world was about "what you want", then we wouldn't have this sub-reddit in the first place. Reality, for most people at least, is about "what you get".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:48 PM
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beautiful men are the most spoiled demographic because they are (perceived as) the rarest breed. Consequently, the demand from women for men of that breed is nothing short of crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:36 PM
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Women are more simliar to men than most men like to admit. They just face a different market and act accordingly. Men would do the VERY same IF they were in this position. In fact, a small percentage of men act just like that. https://youtu.be/4dPTXJMe4bU?si=jjALmAaxgXV74fYl
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:20 PM
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i don't think the average guy can handle it, if he even got exposed to it in the first place Percisely which is why his sub-conciousness feeds him lies to maintain sanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:19 PM
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i wonder how long this entire charade will last tbh. if it ever got out that there are some men out there that women play the role as 'pursuer' while 99% of men are convinced they gotta throw money around and pursue, the outcome of that would be catastrophic, but however deep down i think 99% of guys just will keep breaking their backs in denial and simping. It literally HAS TO BE that way otherwise men wouldn't do shit in their life (drop the work). P is the fuel that drives men. If it wasn't f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:15 PM
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What's the alternative to being 2nd or 3rd option for Chad as an average woman? Dating an average guy. From what I read, scenario one is very much preferable. In fact, women are able to date average guys but they increasinginly decide not to. So actions do speak louder than words ever could.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:11 PM
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You're not all that bright... I can tell this much already. In this dating economy, most men are competing against each other viciously for scraps. Of course, they'd have it any other way but this way. The people (men) who do benefit are comparatively small in number. Again, most (which by the VERY DEFINITION of the world implies average) men don't profit. It's a nobrainer to assume that they'd change it if only they could. What about the few men (profiteers) who swim in p? I don't think most me…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 08:54 PM
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He's confused himself and +100 people gave him an upvote for this "content". Goes to show just HOW attractive and intelligent the average PPD consumer is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 08:48 PM
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This isn't about having a concept. He is, by the very definition of the decile scale, contradicting himself. Having "8/10" and "average" in the same sentence is hard to beat in terms of stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 08:46 PM
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Yeah, the "7.5-8/10" who has problems with getting da gurlza. A PPD-classic. And if that wasn't enough, he proceeds to contradict himself... 10/10 Thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 08:43 PM
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Well, you have an extremely different (let's call it) perception of reality than I have. I don't think there's merit in taking this any further.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 08:39 PM
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Well, in theory you can "easily benefit from hookup culture and think hookup culture is a net negative" but in practice it just doesn't happen all that often. Therefore, it is conclusive (i.e. very likely) that those who are complaining are actually the ones who got the short end of the stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 08:35 PM
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Why do men say women who are objectively attractive are ugly/mid? Every once in a while you'll find yourself disgareeing with the majority. Like personally I don't find Adriana Lima all that attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:31 PM
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Most men are the enablers of most women's behaviour and mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:12 PM
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"F*ck off, dEFeatiST" - male, 5'7, 200lbs, 27, virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:36 PM
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is there anything a man can do who is average looking or below average looking do to make you genuinely desire him? Anything realistic? no like get height surgery, win the lottery, become a celebrity etc. Realistic options. If there were low effort measures for (below) average guys to reliably get da attractive gurlza, this sub would be dead. Anything that is above average in terms of quality is characterized by scarcity. Your question, therefore, doesn't even make sense. If most men (=average) …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:27 AM
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I prefer virginity or low body count and a non inflationary politics with giving it up for any woman that I may plan long term with. Virginity is obviously not nearly as relevant when keeping it casual. That’s something I don’t do anymore myself but it’s logical that it would be that way. If you don’t invest a lot, you can’t lose a lot. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:23 AM
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You suggesting that it doesn’t matter upon his comment indicates at least moderate reading comprehension issues. It does matter and usually correlates with behavior. The fact that most men can’t accurately determine the number but take an educated guess doesn’t invalidate the effect of high body counts on women. That’s not at all what he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:09 AM
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There’s a plethora of reasons next to attractiveness that may lead to interest. Also, men often mistake interest for basic kindness. Unless it’s explicit, it’s worthless. The pursuit of no-strings attached sex of a man is really the biggest indicator of his sexual market value (or lack thereof). All you offer is your physical appearance and nothing but that (after all, it’s just about sex). If she rejects you, what you had to offer simply wasn’t enough for her to agree to the deal. I’m not sure …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:42 AM
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Proves my point exactly. You’re punching above your weight. You’re hitting the car dealership with a certain budget and upon hearing the budget the car dealer offers you mostly Japanese cars and you can’t possibly understand why you don’t get the Beamer, Audi, or the Mercedes with that money. It’s just not enough…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:27 AM
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You’re evidently not (nearly) as attractive as you think you are. If a man is past a certain level of attractiveness, “the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak” applies. Or in non-religious terms: the female primal back part of the brain senses superior genetic and an opportunity to reproduce with that material. I’m not saying every woman gives in to those urges but enough that a man of that quality quickly realizes his elevated status among his peers. To answer your question: Most women at s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:39 AM
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You obviously don’t live on the east coast. You're right. Fortunately, I do not live in the Weimar Republic 2.0. Where I live, this is definitely not considered "fine taste" among upper class people. Au contraire.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:10 PM
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Let's say your observations are true. What's wrong with that? See, I'm very much Libertarian. I don't really care what people do within their walls. It's just that I prefer to be around people with similar values, outlooks, and associated behavior. That is to say I prefer having people (e.g. neighboors) around me with a Nuclear family and not cucks who chronically vote democrat. People can't really control their class for a lot of reasons, and same with testosterone production. Correct. Nothing …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:39 PM
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Not all cucks are low class. Not at all what I was saying. You need to read carefully what I wrote. MOST cucks (limited sample size due to personal disgust) I've met were lower class (low pay, tattooed up, piercings, fucked up hair, etc.) and the men had visible signs of low T (androgynous types).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:32 PM
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I'm not making assumptions. I have lived a certain amount of time on this earth and all the men/women who I met either in person or online who encourage or indulge in this themselves were of a certain breed. It's not scientific but I don't think this needs empirical evidence. This just isn't bourgeoisie or even middle-class behavior. It just ain't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:19 PM
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In my humble opinion, this "kink" is what I often notice in lower-class couples and men with low testosterone. Each to their own, but this isn't for me and the people who indulge in it aren't for me either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:11 PM
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Just get a haircut, bro and things will eventually sort themselves out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:14 AM
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I happen to regularly talk to (middle class) women that are +40 and nearly all of them indirectly hinted at their preference for visually pleasing over walking ATM. The wealthier a country is, the more infalted (and thus less valuable) factor "wealth" becomes. Good genes are scarce everywhere whereas wealth isn't. This is percisely why men can quite litterally buy their way into a woman's pants in Thailand or the Philippines but not in Germany, Sweden, or the US. Simple economics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:01 PM
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Well, one is regarded as a human being whereas the other is regarded as a human doing. That's why it makes perfect sense to view them differently. It's kinda of a different feeling when a woman looks at you and thinks "wow, I want to carry this guy's children" vs. "wow, at his side, I'd never have to work ever again". Personally, I'd much rather have a woman who can pull her weight and is somewhat close to my socio-economic level. There are enough man out there who offer a dynamic where the man …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:45 PM
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psychological markers: no mental illnesses average to above average confidence neurotypicality (be interested in cars and football etc, not in philiosphy or history) average to slightly above average intelligence charisma politcal compass (relates to neurotypicality, but girls will make you pay for being right-wing libertarian if you aren't handsome) things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:48 PM
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you're basically repeating what I say provide emotional and/or financial support in excess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:43 PM
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There are 3-4 traits that significantly impact your attractiveness. face race height psychological markers Being tall (enough) is good and important but if you lack any of the other important qualities, it'll still be rough in this highly competetive environment. Personally, I traditionally lack in 4) and I paid and will pay the price for not being what the market wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:42 PM
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So you DO agree with the definition...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:35 PM
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Simps, typically provide emotional and/or financial support in excess. That's the very definition of a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:31 PM
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damn reality is harsh Definitely. The sooner you realize this, the more you can minimize poor experiences and maximize quality ones. That's like an earlier version of what would happen to me as an adult if I led down that path of being a cuck. If you're smart and and conscientious, you can "buy" yourself a woman by being a "provider-hubby". That doesn't sound like something you'd aspire to be (which I think is good and healthy). With regards to your story: I'm sorry this has happened to you but …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:30 PM
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They are fucking them if they are or appear to be $table enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:12 PM
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if I understood correctly... You have understood correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:10 PM
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How likely, according to you, would that outcome be? I might just have the right number's for next weeks lottery...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:03 PM
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How would dating change if heterosexual women found simps to be attractive and sexually arousing? Simps are "attractive" just not in the same way Chad is attractive. Being a beta billy is positively selected for in evoultion. Some people can buy cars straight off the assembly line. The majority, however, have to wait until they reach the necessary miles/kilometers and then can afford a used car.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:02 PM
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Second issue is that most ppl with low value have no clue that they are low value Ik, the technical term of this would be "dunning kruger".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:20 PM
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You're not locked out, nobody is. Well, THAT is some bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:30 PM
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You're an ignorant fool if you think it's overwhelmingly about socialisation. Women can quite litterally smell men with good genes and those with poor genes, let alone the visual screening they do. You can not socialize poor smell or poor bone-growth - you just can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:29 PM
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thanks, buddy. The "science pilled man" is usually as far from science as it gets. His flair should be removed at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:47 PM
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You can be angry about all day 24/7 but it won't change. Men will compete and do everything in their power even if it means the lowest form of human being from the opposite sex. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:45 PM
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how about not propagating their low quality genetic material and those of the women? How about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:41 PM
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When I was in my early 20s, I had a period (I wanna say it lasted about 6 months) where I had a "good time" with a relatively high number of women within that time frame. It was okay at first but then I got what I think were diminishing "returns". Close to that 6 months mark, I felt very empty and unfullfilled with the behavioral pattern of mine. Shortly after, I just walked away from it and never done it again (to this extreme at least). Back to the question: I'm pretty sure I'm too sensitive t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 09:12 PM
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Science Pilled Man this contradicts very much with what you write on this sub - lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:12 PM
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By your personal utopia, men would hardly have kids. Reality: Men have kids. You did not address that. If you think this qualifies as an ad hominem, then you need to get yourself a good dictionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:12 PM
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I love the fact that you ignored my point. You keep on believing whatever lets you sleep better, yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:50 PM
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I mean from my point of view you’re arguing that because you can’t have beef and you’re served lamb right now, you will starve. I’d take the lamb even though I, too, would’ve preferred the beef.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:17 AM
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We all settle. Whether it be at work, your social circle or with romantic partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:12 AM
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Men don’t “just” wanna have sex. We want a lot more than that but sex is definitely on the list. Oh and everyone wants the best he or she can get in terms of hotness. That, too, is also completely natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:08 AM
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I’m afraid you don’t understand male dating strategy. It’s the very opposite of female strategy which is likely why you are confused. The whole point of male mating strategy is not! to have to look out for every child making sure it survives. It’s a number’s game. Throw enough shit up that wall and eventually something will stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:56 AM
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The majority of men are looking primarily for a body to use while the majority of women, not nearly as trained to objectify, are looking for an entire person. Hence the difference. You can tell someone’s bitter (or just ignorant) by them throwing with ridiculous accusations. If most men were looking for just “bodies to use” we wouldn’t raise children and instead use that money to get as much out of hookers (bodies) as we possibly can. Obviously, this isn’t the case and only your “wild” opinion. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:36 AM
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M+ is for PvE fgts. PvP only. That’s where you’ll grow a really reaaaly thick skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:13 AM
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I think, like most people, I’m inclined by my genetics to want to procreate and I do get that feeling at times but it’s not super strong. Moreover is this time in which we live in (by my standards and beliefs at least) not exactly ideal to raise kids in which makes it easier. I think women and men equally care or have the desire to raise children. It’s just that the evolutionary pressure is much higher on men which is why we’re more concerned with the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 03:35 AM
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Men are single not because they want to be but because women don’t want them. This is true both for the long as well as the short term. The notion is that they are a) not attractive enough (short-term) and b) not wealthy enough (long-term). Let’s not kid ourselves and pretend that men control the marriage market when they really don’t. Women choose whereas men apply. Only in very rare occasions you’ll find it the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 01:08 AM
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Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 12:17 AM
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The so called Dark Triad people have one thing going for them which is very attractive to women. And that’s the fact that they put themselves first. not quite, Correction: The so called Dark Triad people have one thing going for them which is very attractive to women. And that's the fact they ARE ATTRACTIVE. Women, just like men, don't tolerate the slightest bit of bullshit UNLESS the offender in question is hot enough to still face demand after crazy, selfish, and outright evil behavior. That's…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 12:09 AM
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Men only fuck down, they don't commit down. Nope. They're increasingly doing both. Men will commit down. For the vast majority of men, the idea (belief) of having regular sexual access to a woman, will make them commit to a woman (they don't necessarily desire). Most men will not and can not afford to rent hookers. We live in a day and age where men pay for worn underwear, hell, socks even to have some sort of "interaction" with a woman. Of course, they'll marry if that means that they don't hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 12:00 AM
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If a man's level of attractiveness isn't determined by women then what does it matter? Other men might rate him 10 out of 10 but if women see him as a 7, then for all intents and purposes, he is a 7. 100%. If you're hetero (and chances are very high that you are), your (same-sex) friends do NOT determine your attractiveness but the people (opposite-sex) you're interested in do. https://youtu.be/YrYM7_6atNc?si=M-gW6X5us6uv8-hC
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 11:55 PM
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Isn’t the level thing insanely subjective? Nope, not even close. Pepole, on average, agree on who is attractive and who isn't. Men? They magically all like to look at movies/picture of Sophia Loren or even better, Monica Bellucci. Women? They just so happen to fall for Pierce Brosnan or more recently Henry Cavill. Women, on average, prefer tall men as opposed to short men. Women, on average, prefer broad (shouldered) men as opposed to slim ones. Men, on average, prefer women with long hair rathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 11:53 PM
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And this applies to men too! A preference for brunettes, small tits, or a low n count Small tits? What? This is about as true as women preferring a small dick rather than an (above) average one. If men want women to be more open about their preferences, they should stop whining about them as if they're dealbreakers. 100% with you on that. Everyone is entitled to their preferences. Men or women who bash the opposite gender for not meeting a sought after quality often lack in that particular depar…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 04:55 AM
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You, too, are slave to your biology (genes really). Unlike me, you just don't know it yet :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 01:28 AM
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Because you could choose to stop being single whenever you feel like it. Exaaaactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:44 PM
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Yeah, same thoughts exactly. They are two things inherently ingrained in our heads and one involves getting women pregant (procreation). The other one is eating and drinking (preservation). "Just don't feel hungry, bro" or "just don't feel horny, bro" wouldn't work too well for you don't control them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:43 PM
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Men put WAY too much stock on trying to get women. Well, maybe this has to do with a hormone called testosterone that kinda "pushes" men to get da gurlza. What if that primal backpart of our brain is so strong that it ignores or at the very least inaccurately assess the ROI with regard to the pursuit of women. There are two things wrong with this premise - the first is women aren’t a guarantee no matter what you do, the second is you literally can’t be promised a whole other person with their ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:35 PM
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Do you all personally believe it? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:54 AM
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Which women are allowed to be picky? Everyone can be as picky as they like to. Who can afford it though? People (irrespective of gender) who face enough demand for their standards to be reasonable. This applies to a majority of women and a minority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:06 PM
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I’ll just leave you guys this: https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1783129693580927047?s=46&t=zzm1fN9MmbpTXhroLRMgsA
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:08 PM
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'Looksmaxing' can't push your attractiveness much above your baseline level. Only fat brain takes lately. Thank you for your service. If it wasn’t for your input, I would have never came to the conclusion that genes significantly affect life quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:59 AM
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Blame the guy who invented the proverb, not me. Anyway, good luck with your original and exceptionally sophisticated PhD thesis. Never read something quite like that. Completely changed my outlook on the world. My PhD thesis was “Tuesday follows after Monday”. Doesn’t measure up to your input but then again Geniuses aren’t born left and right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:46 AM
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Very good analogy. The dopamine rush we get out of (the prospect of) having sex with someone who’s genetically fit and beyond is unlike anything else. Some fall for it and others fall for it knowingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:13 AM
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An unadressed aspect of dating is how non normie women are actually in way high demand. It’s almost as if most men are interested in most women while most (=average) women are not interested in most men. Craaazy… “Unaddressed” ?? LMAO. People on this sub be writing PhD theses on water is wet. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:49 AM
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I'm an Agnostic myself but there's no reason to eat pork when there's beef, lamb or even chicken out there. Yeah, if you're money is tight, I guess you resort to pork but quality/taste wise, it's always beef and the other meats that are far superior to pork.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:35 AM
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based opinions tbh i agree mostly 🚁🚁🚁 <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:25 AM
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Would you prefer a society governed by Islamic law and norms over the status quo? Nope, absolutely not. I follow the teachings (=Paleolibertarianism) of Hans-Hermann Hoppe and Murray N. Rothbard. The Sharia is incompatible with a private law society and that's putting it lightly. I don't believe in compromising the (bodily) autonomy of women just because a growing minority of men are not getting any pussy even if their life would depend on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:57 AM
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Also, a lot of people say "dating apps suck if you're not handsome", well, cold approaching also sucks if you're not handsome lol The idea or theory is that cold approaching somehow increases your odds (relative to OLD) even if you're not easy on the eyes. Advocates of this also believe that it emphasizes personality moreso than OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 04:37 PM
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Dunning-Kruger at its finest. A Reddit classic. xd
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:47 PM
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I said, it’s not bogus because women will always have “simp” men lining up for them anyways. Therefor it wouldn’t change anything if other men increased their standards. You just don't have a lick of economic understanding. That's your problem. And in that absence of knowledge and understanding, you display confidence. Women will always have simps lining up for them but if the supply of simps shrink (men who now adopt reasonable standards), the price of women will sink. That's just how economics…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:46 PM
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Let’s grant that as truth for the sake of the argument 2 + 2 = 4 OP: Let’s grant that as truth for the sake of the argument Yeah, you do not reason with people like that. You just don't. No point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:41 PM
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of course it's bogus. You're just not all that smart, my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:38 PM
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What's your point? Men desire women more than women desire men, so what encourages women to meet men’s standards? Yup. Women offer sex but men aren’t offering financial stability through marriage anymore Kinda. Men are offering it but we live in a economy in which women have the freedom to work (I encourage this!). This mean that their selling point (being finacial stability) suffered greatly from inflation. Paying for 100% of the bills is different from paying 2/3 or even 3/4. Of course the inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:34 PM
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A lot of men need to lower their standards We live in a world in which men pay money for bath tube water or worn underwear not in which a 5'7, 180 LBS, and $55,000 salary/year men demand Monica Bellucci like women. That's just not reality therefore your perscription is killing the patient and not saving him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:28 PM
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Not going to happen and not going to change anything even if it did. Read again what you wrote. It's not going to happen - correct. IF it would happen, it wouldn't change anything - bogus. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:25 PM
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It’s definitely not going to happen but if it would, it would change everything. You not being able to see this is just a testament of not grasping the law of supply and demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:41 PM
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Manipulative, charming, uncaring, lying men get laid the most Nope - not how it works. Hot! men who MAY OR MAY NOT BE manipulative, charming, uncaring or lying get laid the most. Just like men, women will put up with the craziest bullshit if the individual from the opposite sex is hot enough. That’s just the nature of the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 04:11 AM
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Are high SMV men happier single? No, generally speaking this is not the case. Where is the cutoff as far as SMV where a man is happier married vs single? The cut-off is at the point where he is seen as a human being (rather than a human doing) and treated accordingly (genuine desire) by a woman who he, in turn, also desires like that. People (men) who don't get the above treatment gather en masse at places like r/deadbedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:30 AM
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The overwhelming majority of men never figure out how to maintain attraction once they get into a relationship Not how it works. It's rather binary. Attraction is either there or it isn't. The overwhelming majority of men never figure out how to "be tall". You're either are tall or you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:39 PM
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Why are so many dudes whipped? Desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:58 PM
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There were (and still are a few) societies which don't have the concept of "marriage" or religious texts, or heaven and earth. All the internet did was enhancing what was ALWAYS there (but at times surpressed). The internet (Tinder, Gram, etc.) is nothing but a multiplier. In a free market (and we had those historically), most women would prefer (and often sleep with) most men. https://youtu.be/qUAj0dC86Is?si=HEwYsbbA7aPAHKYa
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:01 AM
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what we're seeing now is unprecedented in history. This is just not true. It's not. on the flipside the women are not dependent on the men because they can work and earn their own living What's wrong with that? Imagine pulling your weight and producing in order to consume. Craaazy. on top of this there are other men who are paid to upkeep societal infrastructure and provide services, so that women don't need to depend on men (e.g. police for security, groceries for food, etc.). If those men real…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:38 AM
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“Things were better when women were property” In the comments section, they're going strong and acting confident like they always do, but in real life, they are the most miserable and insecure creatures on the planet. Rarely have I met men this unstable, ill, and straight-up evil and all because they can't get laid and/or affection even if their life would depend on it. I know it's of little consolation to you ladies, but you should know that when you choose to close your legs for such men, you …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:30 AM
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