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that was never tradition. Traditionally every woman had a farther probably brothers and cousins, aswell as that traditionally couples wouldn't move miles and miles asway after getting married so the wife's family would be close by; these men would not just sit by and watch their daughter sister or cousin get beat up. Caring for your female realities is not a modern invention.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:10 AM
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marital rape was outlawed in some 1st world counties as late as the 90s, we are talking what tradition says marriage is suppose to bring. And traditionally the function of it was to bring sex to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:45 AM
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Sometimes, but a someone who has tried and failed is going to know a lot more then someone who has never even made an attempt. Most women are entirely passive when it comes to dating, moreover so many men will either just accept bs or lie to women and act like their bs is totally ok to fuck. So women dont have repercussions to be able to AB test what works and what doesnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:41 AM
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It doesn't mean fucking you regularly. It does Marriage has 2 functions on a macro scale. 1. ensure the optimal environment to raise children. 2. to ensure the avg man can have sex regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:34 AM
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That's what tradition bought you, not sex. Thats absolutely not true, in many places you literally could not rape your wife. It has always been seen, at least in the world influenced by the Abrahamic religions, that a woman's duty was to satisfy her mans sexual needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:29 AM
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I actually dont think so becuase their whole experienced reality affirms that they deserve money purely for being who they are. So where a lot probably are self aware, id bet most aren't; becuase there is always a rich simp willing to come along and lie to them for a crum of pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:23 AM
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When did I say anything like this? when you said there is no point in dating men unless they have no wish to have sex with other women. Its equivalent to saying a man should only ever date women if that same woman would have date him if he was perpetually unemployed and/or 4'10. ​ Why should I be grateful for being a consolation prize? Pretty sure men wouldn't be happy if they knew their girlfriend was fantasing about being a whore but takes him instead. Becuase you still get a relationship whil…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 08:39 PM
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wouldn’t it make more sense for men to strive to be that? Not only to get a partner, but to mitigate your own insecurity? No and let me explain why with numbers. Lets say men dont want to marry women with traits a, b and c; and lets say every point of professional difference between the man and the woman will convince the woman its worth it to relinquish a trait. Most women will go from professional level 1/10 to 5/10 and pick up all 3 traits, now most men striving their hardiest will probably t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 08:02 PM
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No they aren't becuase "both earn the same" = the same income bracket. That category does not refer to partners that literally earn the to the tee dollar amount lmao. So most relationships are that where the man earns significantly more then the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:19 AM
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Firstly this is such a typically female perspective as only women have the luxury of thinking that unless a relationship is a Disney fairy-tale its not worth having. Secondly the point of dating men is you get the companionship, so you should swallow your ego and just be grateful that men are ok not getting what they really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:13 AM
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Its not just that, even if a woman does provide for you it A most likely not be long term, and B in the cases where it is most of those times she will resent you, and see you ass lesser for having to provide for you. Women overall are just not mentally built to provide for men, they see us as the people that should provide for them and its just hard wired into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:20 AM
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thats no true the percentage of marriages where the husband earns more is 2x larger then marriages where both earn the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:17 AM
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How much a woman earns is irrelevant information becuase most women will never provide for men unless they are really desperate to keep you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:09 AM
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Most men do not care at all this is demonstrated in all the studies on the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:08 AM
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Men never want to settle down, even 60 year old men would have two wives if they could. All that really happens is you want to start a family and you just dont have the energy to deal with that many women so its more you are forced to settle down rather then some feeling of readyness. This is the reason why rich men who have the money and power have mistresses, they have the money to have a family and a provide for a side chick aswell as having enough leverage in the relationship that the side c…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:47 AM
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Everyone would like to have a partner who exceeds in all that's good. For most men this is not a consideration bc even when women have money they often will not spend it on men outside of afew gifts here and there.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:41 AM
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But those same women will also not want a relationship with a guy who isnt leading them. So they just end up alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:39 AM
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Not really, when you are making $100ks you might not be as picky at your partner earning 400k to your 300k, but she will at least expect him to be earning like $150k or something around that which would put him into the same economic category of extremely rich and that would make her potential partners still have 100x more options then she does.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:35 AM
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Thats part of their game that they teach and have explain loads of times game, you show that you have a lavish life style to get your foot in the door and then lay on the game to convice the girl to fuck. They definitely have not paid bc if they did there would be some receipts, yet no one ever has any proof. You are just coping bc you dont like fnf.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:37 PM
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No when the girls ask for money they say they dont pay and thye either fuck for free or move on. Also all the girls on the podcast are volunteers, the only women fnf pay are their female employees.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:27 PM
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Becuase sugar babies are thirsty, and so they are easy fucks bc they think you are going to pay, however he doesnt pay any of them. And the girl that tried to expose him even proved it, as when she showed the msges she showed him saying that he doesnt pay her to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:01 PM
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He didn't beg to have sex with anyone this is cope. Myron doesnt handle any of recruitment for the show, some girl he didn't like asked him directly to come on the show, and so he said the only way thats going to happen is if she fucks him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:00 PM
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only 13% of the shows guest have been SWers, the vast majority of girls on the show have normal jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:58 PM
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They dont find girls for the show on sugar sites, Myron and fresh dont even do the recruiting for their own shows. I dont even think they have recruited girls for more then the first 10% of the shows life time, all the girls on the panel request to be on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:56 PM
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He didnt pay her, and he didnt meet her on a sugar site. Although they do use sugar sites without paying girls, this is proven by some girl that tried to expose them, bc sugar sites are good places to fuck girls for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:53 PM
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They dont use it to recruit they use it to fuck girls bc girls on those sites are way more thirsty bc they expect to get gifts so you cna just string them along and fuck them until they eventually realise ur not going to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:51 PM
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both fresh and fit are in relationships, brian from whatever podcast is just a grifter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:49 PM
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This is a Nirvana fallacy, Even if you are sexualised to some degree, its still worth putting in the effort to look modest becuase the difference will be meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:46 PM
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You dont know someone if you just met in person first time on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:30 AM
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All sugar babies that are getting presents or taken out on dates are fucking and sucking. Becuase the girls that aren't get replaced by girls that will real quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:28 AM
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girls only pay when they really like you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:00 AM
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Sure, it's only 1/60 chances its like 1 in 1million. Almost all rapes and murders especially when its man on woman are known personally to the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:59 AM
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she brought 2 friends Who sees this and then continues with the date lmao. If a girl did this to me im leaving immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:57 AM
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If hes a truly RP and ur not RP then you should never be able to becuase the whole point is not to go around broadcasting it, its just to improve your life
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:54 AM
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. We can absolutely starve women of sex, attention, etc if it weren’t for the fact that so many men don’t find the trope of being at the whims of women to be degrading and dehumanizing, which it is. No this is not true becuase of hypergamy, women dont want ot fuck most men only the top % they can attain. Therefore a minority of men who dont follow a strike will hapiliy satisify most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:53 AM
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A lot of mens innate self worth being tied to his ability to obtain sex from women Wrong. You dont get this bc you are a woman but it is literally all just sex drive. The avg guy will thirst over a completely avg woman who no one will respect him for having sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:52 AM
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no there is a difference, they make less money for more of their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:46 AM
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Who said cabal? Grand actions, for lack of a better term, like this do not need to be coordinated conspiracies. All they need to is for a bunch of powerful people to have their interest align. And once they do they will all just do what benefits themselves which results in the grand action. Its like this, take two deer. One is shot killed and processed by a few hunters another is killed by a bear, and then the remains are scavenged by other animals after. If you go to both death sites 2 weeks af…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:07 AM
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No men just want a woman who will follow instruction bc most women experience or not are almost entirely passive in bed, so experience just means a. she's a slut and b that she is going to expect you to do even more work or have particular ways she wants to get fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:20 AM
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But these guys dont go out into society otherwise they wouldn't have the AI GF. Also people will just go out into society way less once they get the ai GF.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:08 PM
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No they wont snap out of it becuase accepting the AI wont love you, requires you to want to accept the AI wont love you. And that is a conclusion that takes too much effort and discomfort to want to reach. These guys will dive head first into the ai becuase it it presents the path of absolute least resistance that enables them to dive even further into their lives filled with porn and videogames. Moreover if you couple that with the one two punch of them having less experience making them more n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:06 PM
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Its funny becuase like 6 months ago blue pillers in this sub where still laughing at the idea of sex robots, now we are here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 08:52 PM
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It’s a little bit sad. It feels like certain men are exiled from society (self imposed or not) to play with their toys while everyone else has real relationships. its becuase if they are in society they will start a revolution. This the current trend of the amount of young men having no prospects in dating or economics almost always results in some kind of significant social upheaval? So the people who are making money in society rn have a vested interest in making sure young men stay docile.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 08:52 PM
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Obv brainwashing doesnt exist but social systems restricting women's hypergamy would solve the issues in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 08:42 PM
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You dont that's why i can he honest with my male friends, im just not sexually attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:18 PM
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but only 30% of men are so obviously they are holding out hope for being upgraded from a side chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:47 PM
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What are you talking about lmao, plenty of RP'ers readily and regularly say to their male viewers that if society treated men how it treats women that they would be just like modern women are today. It doesnt make you a child to be heavily influenced by the society you where raised and live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:45 PM
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First of all, where do you live that third spaces are gone? literally everywhere this isnt a controversial opinion. ​ What is in their place now? Nothing has actually replaced them fully, we just have must lower quality and quantity of socialisation then before. The only thing that is kind of being used now as third spaces is social media. ​ I am in a european capital and there are more third spaces in a 15 min walking distance than i will be able to check out in years. If anything, i need to st…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:42 PM
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becuase im not attracted to men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:29 PM
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If you don’t like to open up why do you think you would be a good partner? Bc women dont really care about mens problems. When women ask men to open up its just so they can get an empathy boner, they dont actually care about if the discussion is mentally good for the man its entirely a self serving in most cases. Therefore its not required to be a good bf or husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:15 PM
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but where do you socialise lmao? Look around man so many of the third spaces people used to meet new people irl are gone. So even if everything is saying is true they kind of did have no chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:10 PM
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no becuase if you didnt have feminism then you could have online dating bc women wouldnt want to sleep around. So both are needed to cause this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:08 PM
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Well it does. If the quality of woman you can get is poor but the effort you need to put in is herculean. Then it doesnt make sense to bother. There is porn, video games and prostitutes. Its not a good route but if ur truly a sub 5 man, the alternative in being in a realtionship with sub par entitled woman that will divorce you is way worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:05 PM
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No you just call everything you dont like an attempt to or a want to remove women's rights bc its easier to run away then address arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 11:33 AM
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No RP tells men to accept women for what they are bc society brings them up this way and not resent them for it. It doesnt disrespect them it affords them just as much respect as they disserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 01:46 AM
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Its so deeply dishonest to just label everything you disagree with as an attempt to remove women's rights. BP truly are intellectual cowards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:12 AM
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The reality of the current sexual marketplace for young people promotes hatred. Red pill just opens guys eyes to it, and infact tells guys not to hate women for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:10 AM
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no women are only called manipulative gold diggers when they want to maniupulate or just purely extract resources. Women dont try bc most believe in love fairytails where they a relationship that is worth it must be effortless. Also most women are deeply insecure aswell, so they dont try bc if you try to get a man then you open up yourself to more possible rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:09 AM
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No you are entirely wrong. Not only has it been shown time and time again that the avg man finds the avg woman avgly attractive, but ignoring that even porn proves you wrong. As the general population of guys have increased their porn viewership and porn purchasing amount, amateur porn as a category has increased in popularity with. So actually the porn your bf is watching is probably of some girl that you worked with that decided to quit her job to do OF as apposed to some super model.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:43 AM
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No this is hypergamy. women are increasingly feeling insecure becuase they are increasingly having sex with guys who are significantly more attractive then they are, bc that guy wants a roster. Moreover id add the amount of makeup, filters and deceptive poses in pictures push up bras etc has increased. So the difference between what a woman actually looks like and the face she puts on is for sure going to create a deep sense of insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:27 AM
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Thats not completly true. Yes generally they dont care, but whenever men start actually playing the game back with stuff like redpill or being a staunch conservative or even being a really strong progressive. Then they start to really care becuase now they arent getting what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 05:59 PM
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Im not I have casual sex with them and that's it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 05:57 PM
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Its that women today know they offer nothing but sex and are pretty much ideologically apposed to not only developing something to offer a man outside of sex, but they are even against the idea of thinking that men might want something from women that is agnostic to their interest or god forbid against it ; becuase they see doing things for the sake of men as degrading.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 05:55 PM
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Okay, but why would you want to date that woman in the first place? If she's that picky and has little to offer anyway... who genuinely cares about her opinion of you? Becuase women are collectivist thinkers so if a woman sees another hold unrealistic standards it encourages her to also do the same to a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 02:18 PM
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No women think about relationships and the type of guys they want, but they dont actually spend anytime thinking about the process of getting from a to b bc they see themselves as entirely passive agents and that if everything passively doesnt go well that it means the relationship wont work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 02:15 PM
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This is what annoys me so much about tradcons, they loose the culture war bc they are lead by out of touch old men, and then whine at young men for leaving their movements bc they want to find something that can actually help them in the fucked up world they created. I say trad cons should stfu, go win the culture back and go get the young women to stop being whores. Then come back to young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:32 AM
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No RP was always conservative in the theoretical ideal, it just disagreed with conservatives on the pragmatic reality of how things actually work out. The shift you are seeing is actually a shift in the left, in the past feminist relationship principles where apart of the left but these ideas weren't defended so hard as they are now. And so people that apposed them could just appose the feminism, and genuinely be seen my most as not being RW. Now however bc of the concentration and radicalisatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:25 AM
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women will never do this long term. Just the fact that most women are earning a similar amount as thier husbands has drastically increased divorce and decreased marriage rates. Women will earn more and still look for men who earn more then them, until some sort of social mechanism comes about that positively or negatively incentivises them not to follow their hypergamous nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:24 AM
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Should straight men start wearing makeup and leggings aswell ? Since most of them what feminine women, ofc no that's ridiculous. There is no reason someone attracted to the opposite gender must hold to the same standards they hold for those they are attracted to. Its not hypocritical becuase men and women are not the same, they do not look for the same things in their partners and most importantly its not any mans job to look out for the best interest of a woman. Moreover despite this a lot of g…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 12:09 PM
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There is a reason some men “lose half their shit” in divorce, it’s the choices they make in regard to leaving the childcare and homemaking to their spouse. This is ridiculous, a woman being a stay at home parent does not make her incapable of working after a divorce. Moreover women overwhelmingly prefer men to earn more then them aswell as to not want to be the breadwinner. So most women want to be in these sorts of situations, and the only time they do not is when they are afraid of divorce. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 02:32 PM
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thats not the same as cheating on your wife with a prostitute every other week or it just being a normal thing for married men to have whole other families or mistresses. Infidelity in china is on a scale way above what its like in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 12:35 AM
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bro im saying its regular practice for work mates to go to a brothel, just like how you might go out for a drink with them at the end of the week, thats no where near the same to afew married men going to a stripclub.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:35 PM
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they have much more conservative societies which socially restrict women hypergamy and worst tendencies. So the % of women that are marriage material is much higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:32 PM
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This is definitely not true its common place in china to go out with your male work colleagues after work and fuck prostitutes or for business deals to be settled with a gift of a prostitute. Moreover if a woman finds out her husband has cheated shes likely to try to just make sure she stops him by attacking the mistress instead of reporting adultery both bc china has a deep culture of saving face, and becuase if she gets a divorce her chances of remarriage are very low.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 01:19 AM
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160 million women but how many are married, how many are young, how many are feminist etc. Its not like all 160m are wife material. ​ Moreover and this is a point a lot of women struggle to grasp, even if there are millions of these women, we are singular human beings, we can only meet so many people and live in so many places. It doesnt matter 1.6m women are wife material becuase at 1% of the population your chances of meeting these women is literally almost 0. The raw numbers are meaningless s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 01:10 AM
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well thats why you make it clear that your not moving back to the west and you are not going to be some bank account for them. If you do these things the users will leave and look for other men that are to niave or are willing to be used.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 01:03 AM
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No china is in a population death spiral, also this isnt the west people dont get married latter in life in china, if you are a woman who's older then like 30 ur considered a left over woman who is unelligable and its seen as totally ok for men to date way younger women. And no one ever dates just to date in china or cohabitate really while dating, they are still a very traditional society in that respect. So if they arent looking to get married then they wont.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 05:34 PM
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Also Chinease men are notorious cheaters, like have a whole other family levels of cheating, so a lot of hypergamy and polygamy is going on. Then there is the fact that to marry the man must own a house, which is super difficulty for young men since not only are so many are unemployed due to a fucked job market, but the housing market is in the process of crumbling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 05:30 PM
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you forgot that in china for a man to get married he needs a house and the housing market is fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 05:27 PM
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Its practically not, ur best chances are within 2 years and even then you only have 75% chance of success. Past that it drops hard to 50% at 3-5 and then past that to 20% and to 0%.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 01:39 AM
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Nah bc chances are if she goes of BC she might want a divorce bc her hormones will go back to her baseline. Also if shes been on it for 15 years shes probably close to menopause anyway so theres no point her stopping now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 01:35 AM
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So then why are you implying that mans at fault for the woman agreeing to increase her body count? Also men and women are not the same so judging them differently is what you should do. Women will never date a man who earns significantly less then them yet they will happily date a man who earns way more then they do. Finally there is no hypocrisy becuase there is no rule being crossed, men who are unattracted to high Ncount women are saying women should not spread there legs they are not making …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:10 AM
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You are saying men should act like farthers to women becuase if you held both genders to be equal you would appreciate that men do not have to sacrifice for women's best interest at the expense of thier own. Just like how we recognise there is nothing wrong if say store A spending on marketing to convince customers to buy apples from them instead of then store B that sells higher quality apples. Your premise is the opposite, its that men are bad for not sacrificing for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:46 AM
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That's a different scenario, the conversation is about non traditional modern women who already have a decent body count. Moreover the presumption behind this question is wrong aswell. men are not women's fathers our job is not to look out for your interest, if our interest come at the expense of a woman that isn't some failure of ours; thats the womans fault for not being more shrewd.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:58 AM
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its becuase those girls are already ruined.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:29 AM
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yes becuase men and women are not the same. A lot of women will never date a man who earns significantly less then they do, but will happily date men who earn more then them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:29 AM
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riding the cock carousel is not doing well, most of these guys do not want to commit long term so they are just wasting their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:19 AM
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they were a bit lower than my league physically this isnt what op is talking about lol, ur talking as if u went from like a 7 to a 6, op is saying go from a 7 to a 5 or a 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:12 AM
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I wonder what types of guys you are talking about, a lot of times when girls say they date uglier guys the guy has a bunch of money, he's very charismatic, connected etc so he's basically as attractive just in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 11:53 PM
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no it isnt you create the best scenario for the modern woman while leaving out stuff like "doing sex work knee caps your chance at a stable monogamous ltr and career outside of sw". And you create the worst scenario for the trad woman, with even some of the points just being ridiculous like its not a disadvantage to women to only have sex with one man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 02:44 AM
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Do you people not see that blue collar and working class men date and get married? in the older generation sure but women had sense back then, modern women I doubt would consider them marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 02:39 AM
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If you like a girl you should make it known that you are romantically interested, becoming her friend only works for those weird girls who spend all their time on discord. That being said tho dont ask the girl like the moment you meet here just engage in flirting early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 02:31 AM
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not friendly, playful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 02:31 AM
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The avg man isnt doing fine but he's still getting married. Also that 21b is not saved in some bank collectively for the whole industry to survive years when people aren't getting married its with people in their personal or business bank accounts. So if marriage drops by like 50% from one year to the next the industry will die becuase all those people and businesses have running cost of operation, and if there is no business or not enough in the foreseeable future they will downside or go under…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 04:22 PM
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at its core it is men driving that industry becuase we decide who gets into commited relationships and who gets married. Therefore marriage dies when the avg man decides the avg woman isnt worth bothing with at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 03:55 AM
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no it will die out when we get sex robots, the reality is men still generally decide who gets married and the avg guy can still get an avg girl in an ltr it just takes more effort that shes worth and shes of lower quality then her mother and grandmother. So marriage is still in the hands of men, therefore marriage will die when the avg man decides marriage isnt worth it, and that will happen when we get sex robots in like 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 03:54 AM
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none of this is debated by redpill wtf are you talking about. I swear people just think redpill =/= misogyny + denying that women suffer any hardship at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 03:51 AM
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This person is so rare they basically dont exist. You are talking about a woman that wants to have kids, but doesnt value a family and believes that being a sm is easy or preferable to not having kids. I think most of these women are just buying dogs and cats, instead of becoming a sm.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 03:48 AM
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I think single women who want kids do not just want to have children they want a whole family and a lot of them do not want the responsibility of being a SM alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:17 PM
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well then you are not the typical autist or the one im talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:07 PM
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not their fault they were feed this lie. Maybe in the early days of first wave feminism, but today it is absolutely there fault. They vote for the politicians that say this shit, they support the celebrities that say this shit and watch the media that pushes this stuff. Women are the ones sustaining and enabling this narrative now becuase so many of you have bought into it, gotten to the other side and instead of warning the girl behind you, you lie becuase unfortunately most women would rather …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:35 AM
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But the ones that will reproduce do not have different software just a different environment, which is one that socially enforces monogamy. Therefore the next gen will just be a slow march back to where we are now as the kids will inevitably leave thier socially conservative environment and those women will go back to holding out for the perfect mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:31 AM
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what do you think I mean when I say this? It happens so rarely that its not worth even considering, so they actually dont
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:21 AM
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Most men are turned off by virgins that's absolutely not true. At most most there is an argument between men preferring low n count or virgin but most men are not turned off by virgins at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:20 AM
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It happens so rarely that its not worth even considering, so they actually dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:18 AM
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but if they did anything why are the countries that do like 5x more then the US interms of social welfare have lower or the same birth rates
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:14 AM
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Wrong. Kids are not astronomically unaffordable, also if this where true western countries where they have a way stronger social welfare system should have higher birth rates, yet when we look at countries like Germany or denmark, birth rates are either lower or basically the same as the US. The issue is hypergamy. Mans natural tendency is polygamy and so if you get rid of the social constraints on us, we return to it. And what we have done with the sexual revolution and progressive ideology tow…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:13 AM
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No women are better at masking becuase society is way more accepting of women doing more typically mascluline things or just being weird in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 03:54 AM
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A woman on the spectrum would be preferable tbh. She would be way less emotional and more logical so you dont have to deal with all that nonsense from normal women. She would also just require way less socialisation, so no talking to her every other day or whatever jsut talk to her on designated days and shed be good. Also on that note her being into routines takes the guess and creative work out of a lot of stuff, like for example foreplay, you dont have to mix it up and pretend as if you are i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 03:52 AM
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no thats going to depend on your perspective, a lot of people see non marital focused dating as meaningless so cheating isnt that bad and probably the majority of people look down on women for being whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 03:45 AM
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But they dont want that guy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 03:43 AM
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I'm not projecting anything onto men It is projecting becuase you are making a conclusion on men's perspective using your values instead of theirs. ​ This man is basically saying that men are worthy of commitment regardless of how fast they sleep with women, Yes becuase men have to do something impressive or be something impressive to have sex with a lot of women. ​ but women need to repress their sexual needs if they want to be worthy of a man regardless of how promiscuous he is. And again yes …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 02:43 AM
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You are projecting your perspective onto men. You think the guy doesnt see you as an equal becuase you couldn't see a woman as an equal if you held those opinions of them. But most men do not see men and women as the same and so do not hold them to the same standard, sex is just one of those standards that differ between men and women. Take low n count for example, that same guy would view a low n count man as lesser but hold a low n count woman in higher regard
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 02:16 AM
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nope, men will wait if they cant secure a better situation elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 02:11 AM
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There's no single determining factor, withholding sex is one of many things you could do. And I advise all women do it if they don't wanna get pumped and dumped. But its effectiveness hinges on how much he desires you, and whether or not he has other options who won't withhold it. You will lower the degree but it will not stop you from getting pumped and dumped becuase guys will just lie and fuck other girls until they can fuck the girl that is making them wait. The general flaw with this is you…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 02:10 AM
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they absolutely do lmao and guys with 9 inches have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:02 AM
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The thing is the avg guy has no shot at a reliably attaining casual sex, so there really is no point beyond being good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:01 AM
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do you believe most women want a partner who devotes his life to a very feminine lifestyle of trying to get instagram attention? Considering that traditional celebrities do the exact same thing, yes women would absolutely want to be with him becuase he has clout.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 03:08 PM
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Yeah that's becuase men are also human so things that kids do men will also do, like enjoying playing sports. A lot of guys play sports recreationally, and if you asked them they probably played those sports since they where kids. Spending all your time playing videogames is not the most impressive thing to do but its just not arguable that autistically obsessing over statistics and weaponry is super male brained behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:24 PM
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Children are human aswell lmao, I dont know where this idea came from that we need to see women as axiomatically different to children in every way. Some things adult women do or some aspects of them are similar to children and that's not a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:52 PM
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no hypergamy is women's pursuit for what she thinks is her best option. If a woman goes only for looks its becuase the monetary aspect of the men in her dating pool is consistent across all options, so in instances where a rich girl only knows rich guys or some late teens or early 20s girl only knows poor college kids so she cant choose the rich guy. No women are sapiosexuals otherwise guys in the philosophy department at every university would be rolling in pussy. Women who say they are sapiose…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:44 PM
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people tend to date the people they’re around the most. yes but women also have been shown to explicitly not want to date a man who is less qualified then them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 03:32 AM
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personally, i don’t understand why some men seem so fixated on sex but it’s clear that it’s really affecting them becuase your sex drive is like 1/10th of what a mans is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 03:25 AM
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no
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 03:20 AM
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but people who are open to open relationships tend to be respectful of their partners’ independence and agency, which is generally a good compatibility sign for me. Lmao thats not true at all go on their subreddits its full of jealous drama and people professing thier insecurities. The reality is most poly people are not more advanced or mature, they are just like the rest of us but they just wanted to have their cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 03:19 AM
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no but im not getting into an open relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 03:16 AM
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Women forever project, come on think for a moment these are incredibly socially conservative and very religious women, in a society that is very conservative and religious. Unless the guy is abusing her she is never going to want to leave, becuase they legitimatelly believe that marriage is a forever bond. Also its not like if she left there is a shot for her after since so many in society getting married meant the ppl that where left where actual leftovers. Plus she would probably not get to se…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 03:15 AM
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I can look at how terrible marriage laws are for men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:06 AM
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Putting aside that there was zero legislation against women having credit cards, and women have been running Ponzi schemes since late 1800s and starting their own banks since early 1900s, how many credit cards you think were in circulation in the 60s, when even the Internet or electronic transactions were not a thing. Bro the first person to own a printing press in the US was a woman, ffs even if we go back to the middle ages there where female land owners who could legally get their male realit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:56 AM
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No they stayed becuase back then they actually believed in marriage and where dedicated to their family instead of jumping ship whenever they felt the pastures where greener elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:48 AM
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Why do Redpill men on one hand romanticizing earlier times, while they condemn the same type of behavior of women today? Becuase its not the same type of behaviour, in the past women did not ride the cock carousel and then only settle for a guy becuase there was no one left that would commit. In the past women started out with a mind for commitment and to build a family and chose the best guy for that at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:47 AM
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Yeah I forgot to talk about this. This is what allowes these men to treat women like crap. Sad but true. But what is it tho? Its women that allow this to happen. If women only had sex with men they got commitment from this issue wouldn't not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:42 AM
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I always find it funny that guys could instantly end promiscuity if they stop taking warthogs home from the bar at 2am. This is the issue with BP'ers, Firstly this shit doesnt exist; most men are not going for sub5 women unless the are sub 5. But back to the point, how many warhogs are there to guys that do this? The answer is more hogs then guys. And this is whats so annyoing about this BP bullshit, yes a minority of men are apart of the problem but that problem percentage is damn near the majo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:40 AM
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This never works , in the man’s mind he is using her body for masturbation This is literally how most men see most sex if they are not religious or not trying for a kid. Sex is largely just not an emotional experience for guys in the same way it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:35 AM
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typical dodging of accountability. Women are up and down the chain in the movement of feminism and its ardent foot soldiers, you women are responsible for dating as it is now, so own bc ur the only ones that can change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:32 AM
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First off, by sleeping around a lot, women facilitate men a lot in the sex market. It may not bridge the discrepancy but it definitely helps men a lot more. No it doesnt at all, becuase women dont fuck evenly, when they are free to be promiscuous they choose to be on a roster of the top 20% of guys in their range. So actually more men would have more sex if women where less promiscuous, as the more attractive men would be forced to commit and thus also forcing more women to be realistic with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:31 AM
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move into a community of other religious people, find a guy in church, have your male family vet him preferably her farther and then get married quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 09:27 PM
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its not about any hard score keeping its reciprocity. I know this can be a foreign concept to women bc a lot of you dont care about being repsectable or honorable, but between men we understand that if someone does something above and beyond for us you to pay them back in some form later.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:14 PM
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They really are becuase the differences do not have to be that big.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:05 AM
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Thats not true they did like her, its just orbiters will do things for women without asking for or setting up the expectation that there should be some reciprocation in return becuase to them the pay off is that if the demonstrate how good of a person they are the girl will choose to have a relationship with them. However when that doesnt happen like any human they get mad, bitter and honestly quite rightly feel used becuase there was no reciprocation at all. If these girls actually reciprocated…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:19 AM
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thats becuase in 90% of cases the guy is trying to fuck since most women and most men's personalities just dont gel that well to really become close friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:03 AM
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It is kind of special becuase for most guys its just not going to be possible becuase a. they are going to try to fuck and ruin it or b. if they dont want to fuck the personalities on avg just dont gel. I have some female friends and I know if circumstances where any different they would only ever bee acquaintances.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:01 AM
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If a woman has sex on the first date, she has no control over whether he commits to her or not. It’s entirely in his slutty court. And many many men will happily take advantage of the fact that she has sex before she gets any solid information about whether he’s serious about her or not. That’s how you wind up with a reputation as a slut: by having sex quickly with men who dump you instantly. She never had any control over whether he commits, that was always the mans choice that's the point. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 09:50 PM
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Genius the point is about whether or not that they chased you ofc they are going to peruse you men pursue fuck tonnes of women, the point is, if they had options they where not trying to fuck only you. Which also means that ur statement of " they couldn’t or didn’t get what they wanted. " is wrong becuase if they had options so they could get what they wanted at any point from another girl, becuase ultimately unless a woman is demonstrating home making and wifely qualities she offers nothing rar…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:04 PM
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Having sex quickly is exactly how you wind up having fucked a lot of guys without getting commitment, lol. And besides, men assume any woman who has sex quickly is a slut, even if she’s actually low-n. Hell, men assume a woman is a slut based on her innate anatomy or her clothes. I don’t trust men’s judgment on this at all, haha. No having sex with a lot of guys is what makes you a slut, if you have 3 bodies bc uve dated 3 guys and you fucked them after the first date no one would consider that …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 03:55 PM
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Again you dodge the question, this is how I know ur wrong u cant answer anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:35 AM
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No you cant have love without respect because you are a woman and respect is a necessary trigger for your romantic interest. This is not the same for men men and women are different. For us respect has literally 0 baring on if we are romantically interested in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:06 AM
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. I’ve dated highly successful and attractive men. Note the word in past tense, if this tactic worked they all would have stuck around. Moreover they might want to chase you as a challenge but if they had options, they where lying to you if they said they weren't fucking anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:56 PM
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You are dodging the question, if u cant refute what im saying just dont reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:53 PM
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Only if they are masculine women that weren't worth dating anyway. A woman worth committing to can accept that the man she is with loves her and not let her ego get in the way of that. Just like how a man worth committing to can accept the idea that the woman he is with would not want to stay with him if he wasn't performing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 05:18 PM
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Its not a question of cant its a question of why? Tell me what value is the woman offering the man by doing this? What makes her more attractive then the other girls who are just as hot, who he thinks he will get along with just as much that are down to fuck quickly? Its always weird to me that women say they want to be equal yet when it comes to dating they always expect that men should put women who they barely knows interest before their own whenever possible simply becuase they are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 05:14 PM
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Its simple logic. Why would a respectable guy who values himself and has sufficient options, ie the guys that women actually want, commit to the girl who isnt going to have sex with him when other girls will? The answer is he wont, the only guys that do that are guys that literally have no other options or are submissive enough to dominated into that position. Men are not attracted to just a woman making guys wait, they are attracted to chastity, if u dont have that making him wait is worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 05:08 PM
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becuase human beings like all natural creatures are a modal species, as such the majority of men and women are within +1 and -1 standard deviations of the avg.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 05:04 PM
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its only grim becuase you are projecting ur blue pill ideaology onto the world. In the real world most men are fully capable of loving a woman completely irrespective of how much they respect her in that moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 05:03 PM
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No women get considered sluts becuase they fuck a lot of guys who do not commit to them, not becuase they have sex quickly. The point is women need to built themselves into someone worth committing to and to be more discerning with pre judgement on things like likelihood of commitment, moral character and less on money, height, social status. No self respecting man will wait as the attractive part to men about a woman making him wait is how Chase she is. And chastity is not something you can imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 05:00 PM
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I go to the gym but I don’t know if I’d describe myself as a “gym girl”. My boyfriend says it’s very attractive that I always wear modest clothing to the gym, usually a t-shirt and soccer shorts hmmm hold on, we talking shorts like this or shorts like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 04:21 PM
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The general understanding of the term. Most guys are fully capable of recognising a woman's achievements or her capability in what ever field or even just demonstrations of strong moral character but it will not make them more attracted to that woman romantically the way it would inversely for a woman to a man. Men's attraction is generally made up of of physical attractiveness, how feminine the woman is overall and her capacity to be a good wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 04:15 PM
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They are right but the advice will only replace a woman's options of fuck boys with soy boys. Women need to approach dating with humility and accept that if they are having a bunch of problems with men then maybe they are flawed instead of it just being them picking flawed guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:41 AM
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no.2 is bad advice, if you have already ridden the cock carrousel then there is no turning back, im not saying be a slut but you better be fucking soon. This tactic will for sure weed out the guys that only want to fuck but you will also weed out all the masculine men that you actually want. Women need to drop this delusion that they are perfect. If every guy hits and quits maybe its you that needs to improve. Maybe the problem isnt that you keep picking guys with bad intentions, but that proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:38 AM
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Leveraging sex does nothing but ensure that the only men you are left with are the submissive ones who will defer to a woman. The point is to offer enough that he wont hit an quit. 99% of guys will stick with a girl who has a high marriageble score. If guys are leaving its bc you dont offer shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:31 AM
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I dont think the key here is screening, the key here is get ur male realities in on the screening.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:26 AM
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No man is looking for an equal or a peer, most of us literally could not give a shit. Respect plays almost no part in romantic attraction for men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:25 AM
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Dont dress like a slut, dont post slutty pics of yourself online and just generally be deferent. Also if ur close with ur dad or have brothers or close male cousins ask them to help you vet guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:22 AM
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More proof that you shouldn't listen to women when it comes to dating advice, this is terrible advice. Sure every girl is going to be hard to get but its actually a realistic possibility that an avg guy could get an avg girl, he is just gonna have to put in an amount of effort that would probably not make it worth the relationship, also the dynamics would be fucked bc she would have so much leverage. An above avg attractiveness girl however, maybe like 8/10, is order of magnitude harder to secur…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:25 PM
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but they rightly point out how abhorent it is, LWers just go "theres nothing wrong here"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:07 AM
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No they are for sure normal women at least on fnf. Most of these girls have never heard of the podcast before, the most popular job is a nurse(same as the gen pop of women), they live all over the US, they have a pretty representative mix of degree vs non degree. The only factor Id say is unrepresentative is that they tend to avg a 6.5/10 in looks up from a 5/10, but even that might not be true bc these girls always dress like they are going to the club so maybe the avg looks is a 5/10. But I di…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 11:39 AM
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Irrelevant question a woman like that isn't a typical, so her being on the show would bring 0 value, the same way a lesbian wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:18 PM
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yes women love attention and they love talking about relationships so if you tell them they can be on a podcast to talk about relationships thats well viewed most will jump to be on it. Also with the amount of controversy these sorts of pods attract particularly fresh and fit it would be wildly unlikely that all of those women could be paid actors and no one find out about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 07:54 PM
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since women got control of the dating market
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 04:10 PM
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Bro just watch any of these podcast where they literally just pull random normal women on and they say the same thing. Feminism has convinced women that men having preferences in women is sexist and misogynistic. So most literally cannot even conceive that the perfect guy they want, might actually want them to look or act a certain way aswell.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 02:31 PM
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no it would be hypocritical for a man who is critical of female promiscuiety to have casual sex with a virgin or a woman with a very low n count. But if he meets a woman that's already ran through then hes not adding to any issue, shes already fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:07 PM
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Wrong. Women do actually really value how much money their partner earns, which is why marriage rates are plummeting. Moreover when asked women will still readily admit they really care about thier partners income.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:14 AM
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key context that is missing from you and OP is that typically people just aren't getting married anymore, so yeah it seems the hypergamy is proven true again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:05 AM
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Firstly CW is not RP. Secondly data from 2020-2021 needs to be taken with a truck load of salt, the lockdowns in various areas massivelly affected how people usually find new people to hook up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 10:44 PM
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CW is not RP
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 10:40 PM
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I doubt that but even if you are it doesnt change the fact that most women do not. Most women pretend like their sexuality is wholely this evolved thing where they are only attracted to personality, intelligence and guys being "genuinely nice". They have to be argued with to admit that they care deeply about stuff like physical appearance, income, that most of you dont mind or even like toxicity if the guys is good looking etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:37 PM
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literally nothing becuase men dont lie, men will readily admit what they do want and dont want aswell as the failings of men in general. We arent like women where we pretend like were not human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:28 AM
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This is complete straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:25 AM
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And also this just doesnt work for most men. Most men have avg male interest which not only do not naturally lend to any subculture, bc most guys enjoy them, but the subcultures that are closest to their interest are all male dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:22 AM
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its not about all women being the same that was never the argument, its that like all natural creatures most people fall inside of general rules. so it doesnt matter if a few women are different chances are you will never meet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:14 AM
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Probably but tbh you dont need to give up anything, whenever your social life picks up you will naturally jsut choose to play games less to accommodate
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:36 PM
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The thing is even those wonder women dont have it all either. Most of them dont get married or they get married to a man that they support as the breadwinner, so what they have is something that most women do not actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 05:29 PM
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😂 smh I agree , the goal is to be rich, fit and live a lonely life. Being rich and lonely is surely the advice they are giving to men who watch and the hopes of men who watch. How dishonest can you be. Good day This is what you BP'ers dont understand RP is not like conservativism it is not a force to change society or to push men to realise their traditonal fantasy relationships. No, It recognises that society is fucked becuase of feminism, neo liberal corporatism, progressivism and what ever el…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:30 PM
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OP is a liar she completely strawmans fresh and fits argument and runs away when presented with proof that shes wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:11 AM
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There's many men here in good faith admitting that the end goal is to get women. Well this is just you admitting you haven't watched any of fresh and fit becuase they say this all the time. The only reason you running away is becuase you know their actual position is much harder to argue against. Here is myron literally saying, "we tell you to be successful for yourself not for the girls"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:10 AM
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You are just disagreeing to disagree. No I gave specific points of why you are wrong that isn't disagreeing to disagree. ​ To the first point. Yes they are teaching men to be wealthy so they can leave at any time AND to leverage their wealth so they can get the relationship they want. Its not just financials they teach guys to have game aswell as improve physical fitness and understanding of marriage laws etc, its really a wholistic approach. Also as I said before the point isn't to leverage urs…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 11:08 PM
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no becuase men and women are not the same. For a man a woman not having sex quickly and not with that many guys is massive deal, it could easily take a girl from jsut a girl you are messing with to potential wife. For women a guy being a simp is not going to be that much of a deciding factor. A better equivalent would be a guy looking like he has a solid future and then he just gets lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 10:45 PM
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no most men are ok with wating if the girl makes everyone wait, if she doesnt make everyone wait or you cant believe she makes guys wait then no guy wants to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 10:37 PM
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They arent paid actors this is just the state of the modern woman who is above a 6.5/10
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 10:35 PM
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Fresh and fit teaches men to sleep with dozens of women ,and to become high value so you can leverage your wealth to dictate the terms of a relationship. No fnf teaches men to improve in all areas of life such that they do not feel they need women and therefore when one comes along they do not accept bs bc they can leave her. they are deluded thinking that sleeping with dozens of women is equivalent to experience in dealing with a good woman and they don't gain any real relationship advice so yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 10:34 PM
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yeah ofc every guy should do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:34 AM
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No self improvement is not instant and its hard. So you wont see results of the RP that is popular today until like 3-5 years. Also Idk where you are getting this most statistic, it seems like a source = "trust me bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:46 AM
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Well its becuase most RP'ers and even the ones you mentioned are not that right leaning, RP is not about politics and most importantly the age brackets that contain new RP fans dont vote. Notice how that bracket is 18-29, i garuntee you that like 70% of those voters where 26-29. late teens early 20s adults dont give a fuck enough to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:42 AM
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bro you do not need to be thinking about a body builder right now you need to be thinking about building your foundation. As in are you building a healthy diet you can actually stick to or getting into a gym routine with the proper amount of rest that is sustainable and are you building the foundations of good social skills etc. The goal is not to just get women its is to realise your potential in all aspects as a man then women will come.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 06:46 PM
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bro with the gym the point isnt to go 6 times a week, recovery is just as important as your actual work out time. What you need to focus on is small improvement goals within the gym and diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 06:39 PM
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Most of those men are still sexless and single. RP just gives them something to hate that isn't themselves. Most of the viewers are still in the early stages of self improvement or not actually doing the self improvement. I dont know of any RP'er that says if you just watch their content you will instantly get women. So this argument isnt valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 06:34 PM
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I see this a lot on here and I don't get it. Unless you're dating a woman from the same extremely gossipy social circle you'll have no idea how long it took for her to have sex with some other guy. True but chances are unless she is religious shes letting chad fuck right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 07:56 PM
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dont fuck a bunch of people, focus only on relationships where you see long term commitment as a real possibility, and if you find a good guy lock him down dont run from commitment to chase a career working in an office. Also develop a charismatic feminine and submissive personality, if ur body is the only thing you have to offer guys they will only want to fuck you; but if you become a person they want to date then they will keep you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 07:53 PM
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Thats cope. There are more then enough men that are fit to be married its just that by that age those men are already married or they have learned enough not to settle for the dregs which are the post wall modern woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:44 PM
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but for every like 10 30 year old woman there might be 1 35 year old man who is marriage material whereas he has way more options.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:15 PM
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yeah but when did they get into these relationships? Probably mid to late 20s so from the perspective of a single woman a lot of the good men are taken by 30 even if a lot of ur friends are married.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:13 PM
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Porn has been easily accessible to anyone with an internet connection for years now and men still seem to prefer in person interactions to OF or most ai tech that is currently available. but most of it is duplicate videos, most of it isn't niche, most of it is clips/trailers, most of its is highly produced and impersonal aswell as tonnes of it being old now. And that last reason is like 50% of why OF blew up. AI porn satisfies all these problems that porn fails with. ​ Most men also seem to pref…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:58 PM
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the implications are the meme that BP'ers on this sub have been making fun of for years, sex robot revolution. "The pill" for men, in which we will be free of women's monopoly on sex like they where freed from our monopoly on careers. Now it wont be like every guy has some sort of custom animatronic real doll, but what will happen is guys will be able to create custom AI girlfriends that they can talk to and jerk of to in VR or at their computer screen. I see sales from stuff like OF tanking sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:43 PM
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this is just you projecting things that you want out of a relationship. How about this, the woman can make the guy wait but for that period he can have sex with other women and thier dates are all casual dates like coffee or park dates etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:22 PM
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Because he knows the woman is bettering herself, and that is attractive in and of itself. Shes not bettering herself tho, her waiting to have sex now does not erase her past. And as such she is trading a very small non victory at the expense of my pleasure and insulting me. Moreover her bettering herself is not attractive, the sentiment is commendable and often respectable, but its not attractive. Simply being better is attractive. ​ also he knows this new standard might feel bad to him if he lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:18 PM
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its a terrible idea becuase most women do not offer enough to make a guy wait
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:09 PM
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Its not problematic becuase redpill is not for women or anyone who would get offended by the terms. The point is to show those that want to listen the truth, if you dont that's fine you can watch something else becuase unlike all these other social phenomena redpill is not a movement as it does not seek to change society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:41 PM
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Respect is needed for having a good professional relationship with a man or if you are going to be good platonic friends. However respect in the way you understand it is not necessary for a loving romantic relationship for men like it is for women. Infact seeking it often jeopardizes other things that re actually necessary. And therefore women only seek it out of a ironic mix of arrogance and insecurity. Arrogance becuase you project ur understanding of value onto us and insecurity you all seem …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:07 AM
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No becuase the decrease in fertility for men overtime is not as steep as it is for women. In addition increase in age correlates with increase in resources, so increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 12:00 AM
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Or alternatively... Regardless of league lots of men just want sex. No men want variety in sexual partners, but they also do value a feminine and submissive woman. Therefore if you can offer enough on the substance side and find a man who can't secure that variety consistently you will have more leverage to allow you to get into a relationship and retain man. ​ Or alternatively.. Lots of men are okay with lying for sex until they find someone they actually want to commit to But its not hard to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:57 PM
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Just because an Average Joe is average doesn't mean he's above refusing to commit or just being in it for sex. Why, in that scenario, should women looking for a fun time and/or a hot man aim anywhere but at the top? but the difference is you have leverage with the average joe, if you are of an average woman he will actually entertain seeing you as a dating prospect which gives you a chance to convince him to stay in a relationship with you. With chad you have none.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:43 PM
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I strongly disagree. I think someone who often dresses provocatively is due to their personality. Do you think there is no core difference in personalities between a modest woman and a promiscuous one? Ofc there is a difference its just that difference is one person wants more external validation and the other does not. Unless you are the minority of people who are actual nudist or voyeurs, having people see your body is not apart of your personality. ​ No it is not and you are strawmaning my po…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:39 PM
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Clearly you didn’t have a problem with it before you started dating them otherwise you wouldn’t have started dating them in the first place. This argument is dumb, that's like saying you should be ok with ur gf going on dates with other men becuase you didn't have a problem with her doing that before you started dating. Revealing clothing is not an aspect of someone's personality, its a method of courting. And when u get into a relationship you are supposed to stop entertaining other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:38 PM
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I dont hate women lol, just becuase you look down on the true image of women doesnt mean I do. I accept what you are and make peace with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 01:27 AM
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You know u just missed the point completely right. In a natural setting womens would have to think about the facct that chad isn't likely to stick around and provide resources for her kid and/or he might have too many women already. Therefore thier hypergamy is limited since now they have to lower ther standards to a guy they can actually retain long term becuase he considers them high enough value in relation to spend his resources on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 01:25 AM
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as a woman you have no idea what works becuase you ignore all the failures and most of you are not mature enough to own up to your shallow tendencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 01:20 AM
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This is terrible advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 12:59 AM
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but at the same time you can play all ur cards right and if ur not attractive then theres no shot. Atleast if ur attractive you have massive leeway to secure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 12:58 AM
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firstly its not 95-5, its way more favourable then that. Secondly I dont have to accept shit, in nature women have kids after having sex regularly which necessarily limits their hypergamous nature to something more reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 12:52 AM
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It does look at how many straight men find women young slender women incredibly attractive, depsite the fact that for all intents and purposes they are built like twinks. Male sexuality typically is to be attracted to youth becuase its a maker of fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 12:47 AM
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the word of experts doesnt really mean much anymore. Too many people are capture by their political ideology to be trusted to give impartial advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 12:40 AM
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but one is actually correct the other is not. Monogamy is socially enforced, it is not our natural tendency given freedom to choose which is why now that we have more freedom we see less monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 12:35 AM
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no its not RP speaks of the weaknesses of men all the time and literally does not denigrate women. Just becuase you look down on the truth of what women are doesnt mean that everyone does, a lot of us can just accept women for their hypergamy and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 12:31 AM
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When you ask the average Red Piller "which gender is more narcissistic?" 95% of them would say that women are more narcissistic than men. Yet actual studies show that men consistently score higher on narcissism and have a higher self-esteem than women. Wrong. When people use the world narcissism they are not talking about the actual antisocial personality disorder, what a dishonest claim. They are referring to someone who is just self absorbed and selfish. ​ If you asked a Red Piller which gende…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 12:28 AM
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but why tho? Dont you think its pretty empty? And like what's your plan when ur older, just die alone after being abused by some underpaid orderly for months.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:53 AM
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shes gonna hit that depression wall in like 5-10 years
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:52 AM
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I think it depends on the age. When all parties are younger the lesbian is always going to be more attractive bc there is no expectation or capacity to provide anything other then physical appearance which lesbians are going to win on since most guys cant dress, lesbians also have the massive head start on talking to women and lesbians can approach women much easier. However when you hit that 25-30 mark Id imagine it would flip bc. As now the man has exp talking to women, he can dress, is probab…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:50 AM
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Sexual attraction is not a conscious choice and the uncoscious human brain is no where near 100% accurate at identifying things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:42 AM
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it has everything to do with fertility, it doesnt matter whether or not you consciously want kids your sexuality does not exist in your conscious mind its made up of unconscious triggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:41 AM
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But why would that preference carry over to male / male relationships? Come on lol, are you seriously asking why gay MEN have the same sexual preferences as straight MEN. Could it be that we all men and so fundamentally we are always going to have a lot of similarities.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:39 AM
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My personal theory is that women are simply bad at showing interest, probably due in part to outdated social standards discouraging women from actively pursuing men. This is one area where I'm very curious about the dynamics among gay men. No women are just cowards, they are deathly afraid of putting their neck out their and risking taking an L that they cant shirk off or rationalise into a W somehow. ​ Fertility isn't an issue (outside of some cis-trans couples) so the concept of "the wall" als…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:34 AM
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It wouldn't be equitable bc way more women would have way less money
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:31 PM
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well a lot dont have a choice but it not really about if they will be ok, its more about the fact that it will hurt women 10x worse
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:47 AM
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No most women are great at vetting, they just use superfluous standards to do so meaning there selection bias tends toward worse men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:45 AM
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Basically women have really high standards in superfluous aspects and then since they eliminate 90% of guys in preselection they are forced to accept who ever meets their high standards
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:28 AM
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peak woman moment
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:47 AM
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Then shes a single mother, women have all the opportunities to prevent child birth
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:40 PM
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you just dissagreeing to dissagree. A woman seeing another woman try and fail to garner sympathy, is only going to make her less likely to go for that emotional manipulation route becuase she has evidence it doesnt work. If they try some other route not related to sympathy then thats a good thing bc its much easier for the male audience to see through.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:47 PM
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This is circular logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:42 PM
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But if you inherently believe in conservative ideas, why does ''winning the game'' mean degeneracy RP =/= traditionally conservative, sure there are a lot of shared principles but they aren't the same, so just bc a tradcon might think x and y are degen it doesnt mean a rper will aswell. Wouldn't it be Live a traditional life regardless? Or is it that tate has double standards for men and women. You cant live a traditional life that's the point and the rp argument against cons. If we think about …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:41 PM
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theres no contradition, tate thinks the world should be more conservative but its not and he doesnt think he can fix it so he encourages his supporters to win within the rules of a broken game.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 03:20 AM
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Well firstly your premise is completely off, casual sex decreases sex for most men not increase it. Moreover idk why you would expect a man who thinks life begins at conception to be pro killing children just becuase he wants more casual sex. Are you pro choice just becuase it nets your personal benefits bc if so thats heavily immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 03:15 AM
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being vulnerable around people who have no empathy. they have empathy, its just you cant be empathetic on a show like this even for the most sympathetic stories becuase then ever women will make up what ever extreme story they can make up to deflect away from their inconsistencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 03:11 AM
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you would be just doing this woman a disservice by wasting both ur times.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 03:06 AM
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no the damage is done lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 03:05 AM
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uve never been raped lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:56 AM
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this is moronic that whole part of their conversation was Charleston detailing his life before juvenile detention and why he needed it to become the man he is today. They arent justifying rape, they are just laughing bc the way he explained his story was funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:55 AM
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Im ngl I dont believe your story, could it be true sure, but I think you are lying. I think some people get raped and SA, but its no where near 1 in 4 and you cant ever tell without evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:26 AM
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These states also come from phone surveys where the operator decided if the samplee was raped or not so the yare all bunk. Rape and SA are incredibly rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 10:42 PM
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so ur: an older woman in an ltr but still not married Ur kind of proving my point about less men wanting to date you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 07:02 PM
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Ill explain. Men put up so much and stand to loose a lot of possible gains from being traditional when a woman is not. Therefore even if a man wants to be traditional it makes no sense to do so until you know the woman you are pursuing is aswell. Effectually feminism has worked in that its given women all the power in the dating market, so it makes no sense for a man to try to change it with his actions; if women want traditonal men they must use thier power to make the market traditional again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 07:00 PM
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how many of them are actually trying to date you long term tho? As shown in the story tristan still had guys who wanted to fuck. Hitting the wall doesnt mean no man will ever fuck you, it just means the quality of men who will give you attention and/or date you seriously will drastically reduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 06:50 PM
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i dont think they are low at all from what we can see from dating app data, the avg man finds the avg woman avgly attractive, which is sufficient for him to want to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:36 PM
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the majority of single women are so its a pretty safe bet
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 02:13 AM
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against it almost seems like that might be the case soon
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 02:12 AM
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If he chooses to have sex then he is assuming some of the responsibility that comes with that. No if abortion is legal and thus we are considering it moral then sex is not an agreement to have kids as the fundamental argument for why abortion is moral is that adults have the right to choose when to be parents. ​ you want a situation where men on their drivers licenses declare if they are open to having a kid and then again get to make another decision after finding out that the woman is pregnant…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 02:11 AM
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Why does the man get to wait until after the child is born but not the woman? becuase she knows the kid is going to be born usually like 7 moths before hand so she has had time to decide to be a parent. He gets his month or however long becuase he has not had time to decide to be a parent. ​ What happens when the man realizes child care is harder than he expected and just nopes out? What about the rights of the child? Yeah its tough for the kid but that's the fault of the mother she should have …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 02:04 AM
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logical debate, it’s a moral one, what do you think morality is lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 01:46 AM
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Most places with access to abortion have time limits. Plenty of women don’t know they are pregnant until after those lines are crossed depending the limit most places in europe maybe but in a lot of european countries you also cant entrap a man into child support. In the NA you can get abortions realivielly really late term. For the most part most women know they are pregnant before the deadline, but also I see no reason why this is the mans responsibility? Its not like he can force his female p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 01:46 AM
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Then does the woman get the right to relinquish parental responsibility as well even after the child is born? If the kid is 5 then you must also take into account their rights Before birth yes ofc becuase these rules would only apply in places where women have abortion. After the child no, as at that point the woman has clearly decided to have the child. ​ As for the responsibility of the abortion consequences, of course you’re right in the current status quo. But if your goal is to create equal…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 01:36 AM
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ur own defintion proves you wrong lol. especially does not mean neccessary, it just means usually. Therefore a human does not have to be between an infancy and puberty to be a child, it simply needs to be a young person which is what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 01:24 AM
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And in cases where the woman does not know she is pregnant? Not a problem, this would only exist in places where women have access to abortion. So She would have ample time to know she was pregnant. ​ Would men be legally required to disclose their default status to potential sex partners? Nope men would only be required to disclose the final choice to the woman and then also to a court that would also formally tell the woman as a double redundancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 01:20 AM
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But they still get bamboozled by men. Would you agree to a caveat that if the couple is officially married or common-law the man loses his right to financially abort? No they dont they meet thier men in conservative spaces where the men are looking for commitement. Also most conservative women are feminine to actually warrant marrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 01:14 AM
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And if the woman is unaware of her pregnancy until after the cutoff for a legal abortion? And if the woman is unaware of her pregnancy until after the cutoff for a legal abortion? You’re just creating an incentive for women to hide their pregnancies. The just make the time frame not expire, whether she is 3 months along or that kid is 5 years old the man would always have the same amount of time to legally choose to be or not to be a parent. ​ Also the second chance for women is much more harmfu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 01:12 AM
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simple. Every man gets an option on his drivers licence to say whether or not he wants to become a parent, kind of like organ donation, then from the time a woman formally informs him that he might be the farther he has say 1-2 months to decide if he wants to change his initial answer. If he doesnt officially change it his default setting for that child goes forward so he either becomes the farther legally or relinquishes his rights automatically.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 01:06 AM
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it almsot is if you are african american
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 12:58 AM
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I really don’t care about people and their kids, make abortion legal and free = i dont really care about children so we should be able to murder them for convenience
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 12:58 AM
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that would only be fair if abortion was made illegal
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 12:56 AM
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The pill and condoms make it almost impossible to conceive a child therefore its ridiculous to expect men to sterilise themselves to prevent childbirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 12:55 AM
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No we live in 2023 a woman can get an abortion if she wants therefore there's no reason to have to sterilise yourself if you dont want kids. Or if i agree that ur right then we cant just stop there, we also need to get rid of no fault divorce and create a social push back toward a culture where people only ever got into relationships to start families.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 12:54 AM
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No thats ridiculous, you shouldn't have to a sacrifice your fertility just becuase you dont want kids with that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:43 PM
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both are at practically not that risky and both are practically irreversible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:38 PM
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I dont know about tube ligation and its reversibility, but vasectomies are not practically reversible at all. Your best odds are to do it within 3 years and even then ur chances of being permanently sterile are still 1 in 4, then at 5 years its almost 1 in 2 and so on. Also there are no guarantees to your fertility, so even if you get lucky and are fertile again, you could be a 29 year old man with the sperm quality of a 50 year old. Its just not practical to do this unless you want to be steril…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:33 PM
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You all post drastic examples like this because that’s all you have. It’s damn near impossible to get a woman pregnant with a vasectomy on top of condom use. but i could say the same thing with the pill + condom. Also vasectomies are permeant, so in a world where 1/2 of marriages end in divorce its just not reasonable to expect men to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:22 PM
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Nah you cant have it both ways. You either have finacial abotion for men + abortion for women or you remove no fault divorce + abortion for all. Or wild card option have abortion for women + farther preferred custody like in the old days.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:20 PM
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thats like asking a woman if she would get a hysterectomy bc she said she wanted bc or an abortion
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:15 PM
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have it be like the organ donor system where you put your preference down when you turn 18 and then if you want to change ur preference you go in to accept or deny responsibility for that particular child.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:15 PM
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That’s part of the myth that leads men to have lower self esteem. This is really just not true if it was women would be having casual sex everyday or at least multiple times a week. They would have like 50 different of partners a year on average. I’m telling you I could pretty easily find 50 hot “top 20%” guys to sleep with in a year (you know tall and, decent looking, fit) if I was into that. So no. Most women simply aren’t that interested they may get an itch occasionally, if that, but it’s no…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:51 AM
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CP is on every large website where users can upload files without admins checking what they are uploading, just a few months ago weeks ago I saw a video exposing how google photos was being used by pedos, and when Phub had thier big smear campagn facebook had like 10x the cp on it and probably still does. Hell until recently twitter had a massive issue with CP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:39 AM
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If anything I think this will be a silver lining, because way too many parents upload pictures of their kids publicly to the internet. Also these monsters dont need deep fakes to engage in their depravity, ive seen a hand full of videos now exposing how thousands of these pedos will just follow insta accounts of kids modelling kids clothes. So please for the love of god do not post pictures of your children publicly to the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:35 AM
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but people do this with words already lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:31 AM
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but if the guy is an off the rails nutjob surely someone could also just tell them yo u raped a kid and it would cause the same result.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:29 AM
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but that harm isnt caused by the deep fake its caused by the person spreading it without labelling it a deep fake. That's like saying we should ban email becuase some people could spread lies in an email and get another person fired. The problems you are outlining are already done via different methods and are already illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:28 AM
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I think its 100% ok aslong as its properly labelled a deep fake. Its no different to putting someone likeness into an unflattering cartoon, i can accept that in a lot of cases its distasteful but nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:25 AM
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It’s not hypergamy—that word get’s thrown around too much. This doesnt really follow tho does it, becuase women are even more hypergamous in cities where social circles are super isolated. ​ Now what I think men don’t realize is that at any given time very few women are interested or willing to engage in casual sex. No most women are willing to engage in casual sex they simply require a man to be attractive enough to make it worth it for them, so it is worth it to try just only if you are an att…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:22 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 02:58 PM
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No Ur completely wrong sex shaming and misogyny is a fantastic tool for making sure most men have sex. Redpill showing more men how to play the dating game better will only ensure more AVG guys have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 02:57 PM
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Also sex becoming harder for chads means more AVG men have sex, since a more selective woman will choose based on who is likely to be a good partner rather then just the highest value guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 02:55 PM
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No it will have the exact opposite effect. Women being more selective means they will choose men more based on who will make a good partner instead of just who's the highest value. This will necessarily mean that more men will get more sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 02:53 PM
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Idk man I feel like you shouldn't have to move country to find places to talk to women. This feels like you skipped straight to option 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:31 AM
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If that where true we would see a higher rate of symptoms of untreated depression like suicide but suicide is more common now then before. The fact is people are less happy now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:25 PM
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also a lot of people just got into relationships, since a global pandemic can really make a lot of women rethink about whether they really want to be strong and independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:38 AM
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Covid, many places locked down, many clubs/bars closed their doors forever and a lot of people decided to get into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:31 AM
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Yes but think about it like this. If you where working class and you worked your way to a nice job, think about how few people who came from privilege you would see as an equal. I can definitely see women as equals but in my eyes most women simply have not chosen to better themselves becuase they can coast so reliably on their looks and/or male sympathy. Also id argue any a lot of the feelings you might or any women might feel of not being treated as an equal is actually women just experiencing …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:26 AM
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people had more economic oppourtunity in the past lol. When boomers where 30 you could buy a house and support a family of one income from an office worker(obviously being hyperbolic to a degree). So they had more privilege and less depression. people are sadder now becuase we need relationships and we just arent forming them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:11 PM
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We can live comfortably without partnership. No we really cant overall happiness has definitely gone down
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:05 PM
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What are you basing this on, depression and other mental health issues have gone up in all of the generations that have experienced this "freedom"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:05 PM
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Under this defintion freedom wasnt really gained by women either since for decades there where no laws against a lot of the freedoms women wanted just social pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:04 PM
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Another reason why it can happen is due to constant sexualization of women. We’re used to appreciating women’s beauty, women’s bodies etc. and there are far more art showing off women. Men don’t get that much praise or attention. Its the other way round. Idk why its so hard for people to conceive that societal norms are not just arbitrary. Women are more beautiful then men becuase men can rely on competency many more tools to achieve biological imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:43 AM
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no they aren't women are on more anti depressants then ever and reporting depression more then ever. Feminism has created a world that only masculine women and corporations benefit from.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 02:54 AM
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Tell women how you feel but tell them as a vulnerable non bitter man. But see here's the thing, any negative experience in dating men have that is caused by women's actions is defined as bitter. Look at RP, its explicitly non bitter as the whole point of it is excepting what women are what men are and working within these absolutes to better yourself. Yet the first things women say to RPers is that they are bitter. ​ The thing is women often reward male vulnerability because they like that you h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:05 PM
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And my point is proven. Women have literally demanded that men make how many concessions and take responsibility for their emotions how many times? And you still do it to this day with shit like the "body positivity movement" or that we just accept your promiscuity. But the moment men ask for like 1/10th of what we give to you, its all "we aren't your mothers". This is why RP is needed this is why guys get RP rage, women just aren't capable of empathy for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 05:50 PM
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No cronyism did. The government played a major part in concert with these companies, and infact most of these companies are just private arms of the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 05:32 PM
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Its not tho that's the problem. Women generally would be happier with less sexual partners and higher quality men, relative to them, that where willing to commit to them. The society as it is now enables women to price themselves out of men that would commit to them, and puts them into the range of the guys that wont; while also devaluing them as potential long term partners becuase they rack up more bodies. And then in the long run they loose as well, becuase most women are just not built to di…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 05:30 PM
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why not, women are not only unwilling to change the dating world, but most are unwilling to even validate men's emotions about it becuase it would require them to take some responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 01:37 AM
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its not becuase if the guy told them "i work as a garbage man" or "i drive a bus" or any profession where the guy cant expect to earn over 50k for the recent future, they see it as a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 01:34 AM
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Firstly I notice you didn't say anything about how tall you are id bet your probably tall. Secondly most guys deffo the avg guy cant be the guy everyone knows at the rave, id bet if u think back you probably didn't know more then a handful of guys like you at each given club night out of however many guys there. And finally id argue the only reason you where able to do this was becuase society wasn't as online as it is now(or at least your generation wasn't) and/or the clubbing scene you where i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 01:08 AM
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Even at a point in my life where I was actively avoiding men there was still more than one I was regularly talking to on a regular basis. This is becuase you are a woman, even with a good social circle the avg guy isn't going to have more then one girl who he can date at a time. Women are just not interested in men at all unless you are very attractive or much more attractive then the women you are talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 01:01 AM
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What I've mostly seen is women who just want a dude with a job and some level of ambition beyond gaming and smoking weed. But the problem with this is that what they mean is "i want a guy that will earn more then me in the near future" which isn't much different then "i want a guy that earns more then me now". And you can tell this becuase if the guys ambition is something that makes no money and/or is low status all of a sudden women loose interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:06 AM
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Not necessarily, if he spends more than he earns, so you end up subsidizing his lifestyle. Considering that women hold most of the consumer debt and on avg spend more this wont be an issue. But tbh what is the issue with providing for a partner you love. Also seeing as you didnt mention anything about destroying the finances of either party, im under the implication that you are simply against the principle of a man being provided for, which is just yet more proof of RP being correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:01 AM
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This will help them find higher quality women that they can trust and then they can settle down with one. This is a perspective that is only feasible when you have the luxury of a lot of options. The avg man does not have this, he has maybe 1 girl hes speaking to every couple months. Men cant do this becuase then we would just forever be single. Moreover most men dont mind paying if the girl is going to be reciprocal in affection, so all this would do is create a standard that scares off most of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 02:56 AM
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Most women, even the ones that are willing to pay, will be put off by that and just leave the date. Believe me if men could be honest with women we would.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 02:53 AM
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children
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:25 PM
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responsibility and agency 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 what a joke. There is no agency and thus no responsibility, RPers cant make society traditional, and women will never hold men to more progressive standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:17 AM
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why do you all support such a hedonistic depraved and disgusting lifestyle instead of focusing on having families and raising children, things which you acknowledge are vastly superior for everyone? Becuase we cant change society. As it stands now any attempt to limit women's hypergamy in the right or wrong way, for good or bad reasons, is deemed misogyny. Therefore men ought to learn ways to exercise their polygamy as much as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:16 AM
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Physically attractive, submissive, reasonable, good character, good home maker and for the woman to genuinely want to make our lives easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 09:05 PM
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you have to take thes with a grain of salt, a lot of the men who suffer negative effects from porn use are actually more likely just suffering negative effects from their live style as most of them live like feinds.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:35 PM
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loool no. I think men envy women's ability to have sex and how much society cares about women as posed to men, but aside from that no.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:33 PM
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No I dont think thats right at all. They see that some of their problems would not exist if they where women but they conversely also believe they would have just as many if not more due to how society hides womens problems from them until its too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:32 PM
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when did I say i was a mgtow
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:28 PM
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men and women are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:47 PM
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submission, coachability, being an asset to my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:47 PM
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men arent women we care very little for female validation
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 09:08 PM
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i think more then anything its just ease. If you are an avg girl its much harder to develop yourself into that 1% of people that has a magnetic personality then it is to reach that top 40% of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:17 AM
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My advice to women is don't waste your own time doing things you don't want. If you don't want to be casual, don't be casual. If you're unsure about being casual, you're free to try it out. But again, if you don't like it, pull the ripcord. Too many people think they have to go along to get along, but they don't. I disagree, i say if you are unsure don't go casual. Also if you agree they shouldn't be wasting their time then they need to be doing more then just not going casual, they need to be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:05 AM
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its got to be more then that we also need to get to a space where men are allowed to say what limitations they require women to abide by for commitment without being labelled sexist. And also there needs to be some social pressure against women wanting a man to be traditional in x y and z aspects while not being willing to conform to traditional roles of a b and c.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:59 AM
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You are right and wrong, people should have standards but they need to live up to those standards first. Its not good for women to date with intention if you have 50 pics of your ass out on Instagram or you aren't willing to cook, clean and be submissive. If you want a man to traditionally commit to you then you must be a traditionally feminine woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:54 AM
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I dont think she does I think shes just being stuborn. If the guy is good on everything else and he wont leave, then why care if he steps out a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:01 PM
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Why tho? That makes no sense, why live a sad and depressing life for something you surely dont care that much about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 05:14 PM
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You are right and wrong, its true that the standards are generally unobtainable, however the reason is not capitalism its biology. We are natural creatures who like all organisms are self interested in our own biological imperative to produce offspring with the best genetics possible. Therefore we are inherently going to value those features that set people beyond the avg person in attractiveness in a given aspect. ​ businesses just came along and capitalised on this later, but we would still va…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:32 PM
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Lets evaluate this: ​ The female beauty standard: - Be skinny but toned -"Neat" pussy Right away these are not female beauty standards, they are female insecurities that other women tell each other that men care about becuase they are too arrogant to believe that they need to actually ask men what they think. The reality is most men think all pussy looks kind of meh and weird, and most men do not prefer skinny women over avg bmi women. ​ - Have big eyes, small nose, plump lips, This isn't applic…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:20 PM
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You cant say this You cannot just "workout" to have big boobs and butt. And then say this Why is the male standard easier to achieve? They just need to workout. Just like how its just not in the genetic cards for some women to get big tits or get a big ass, its also the same for men and having a good looking physique. Sure you can get some definition and some size but your ability to become swole is 100% down to your genetics. So really men need steroids as much as women need surgery. Ironically…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:07 PM
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If you have a lot of money you aren't unattractive as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:06 AM
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You sure about that? How many men have you date or been interested in that have made significantly less then you, how many men have you financially being the provider in the relationship for? How many where shorter then you? What i find is girls that say this, like a particular type of guy they know will most likely not have x typically masculine trait so they just abandon it and focus on other typically masculine traits instead. In my personal experience I have a friend who her type is: whiny, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:05 AM
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Idk why men here are so against serious relationships with women. Have you seen the shit women in love do for men? They only do this stuff for the really attractive guys, thats why their men treat them like crap and they keep doing all that stuff for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 04:55 AM
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and ergo valuing men's traditional roles less. This will never happen lol, thats the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 04:42 AM
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I dont think so. Women seem absolutely hell bent on wanting their cake and eating it to, and technology is fast approaching a scenario where it can replace women, plus you have RP which is basically gearing a larger sect of men to just game their way into polygamy. So I think its all fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 04:40 AM
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Copy and pasted from my comment What they do is date a less physically attractive guy who makes up for it with his career/clout/both, which essentially defeats the point becuase now the guy is as attractive as the others just in a different way. Or what they do is date 1 genuinely less attractive guy for every 50 attractive ones and then decide never to date unattractive men ever again after one failed relationship. And the final thing they do is date that ugly guy, but then hold him to a way hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 04:36 AM
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Its not thats the point. Emotional support is saying things with the intention of making the other person feel better, but virtue signalling is saying things so other people think you are a good person and validate you for it. Also you wouldn't be happier at all, becuase women get this and they aren't. Young women out earn young men, they have more sex then young men, they are the most empowered out of all of their female predecessors yet they are are on 2x the anti depressants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 04:32 AM
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Several issues with this. Firstly pre historic humans where the same size on avg as people now, early agriculture shrank us and then we got back to our natural sizes with modern knowledge of nutrients. Secondly you seem to be under the false impression that humans are naturally monogamous. This is not true our nature is to tend toward polygamy. So although the avg man may have been lean and avg height, the avg woman was largely still not choosing him. The avg woman only changed her mind when we …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 04:25 AM
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Women dont unionise tho thats thing. They just pretend to like and support each other to virtue signal, otherwise they would be honest with each other about their flaws and how they can improve. But they dont they just lie to each other with movements like the body positivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 04:05 AM
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do you understand why things like women being picky exist? Its becuase society has tricked women into being acting like men and engaging in casual sex. If women demanded monogamy and commitment more, they would A. have less options to trade up to therefore being less picky and B. Allow more men to compete becuase now the race isnt all about looks and more shallow personality traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 04:00 AM
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Because the theory is that a man who is barely lucky enough to have a GF in the first place will value her unconditionally and do everything in his power to keep her happy. Thats not the theory. The argument is an unattractive man is much more likely to treat an attractive woman better. No one is giving a garuntee. ​ I can understand why people would think that, or at least want to. Is that how it actually works in practice? No. It is how it works women just do it wrong. What they do is date a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:55 AM
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That is about as likely as getting hit by lightning. Even attractive guys dont have a strong chance at pulling attractive girls at bars lol, a ugly one has no chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:47 AM
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But those guys all have money, so they do actually have options. Also the veracity of the events in those shows is questionable, a lot of reality tv is fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:45 AM
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Attractive men have many options, it's true and most of them are already taken before the age of 30 (at least in my circle of friends), but in my experience handsome men tend to treat me better, men with high status treated me better. Most people are taken by the age of 30, attractive or not. Its a super recent phenomena for this significant amount of young people to not want to ever get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:44 AM
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its not a miss conception. It just seems like its not true becuase when women choose to date "less attractive" men, they just date uglier men with more money. So the net result is the guy is as attractive as her usual standard but he just got to that sum adding up different numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:41 AM
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Thats like saying its insecure for someone to not want thier partner to do porn, no ones natural aversion to anti-loyal behaviour in a partner they are in a committed relationship with is not insecurity its natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 07:04 PM
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The truth still stands though, the man will always subconsciously question if the child is his Why would he question if the child is his if the woman had a low n count. you are clearly lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:16 AM
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But the quotes themselves are specifically stating that these thoughts occur when you are with a woman who has a high N count. Therefore your question is meaningless outside the conetext of a man in a relationship with a high n count woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:09 AM
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its not an insecurity, its apart of natural male heterosexuality. The same as when women are turned off from a partner that earns less then them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:47 AM
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No but I just will not be able to develop feelings for a woman i know is a slut and if I find out my partner is a slut it will just tunr me off from emotional connection with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:46 AM
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That is completely different. Lying by omission would be specifically not giving an answer to whether or not you actually want a relationship. But if you gave her the answer and she still chose to live in delusion that's her fault and you have no onus to protect her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:41 PM
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thought so
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:14 AM
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which did it more tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 02:40 PM
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High testosterone in women ups risk for cancer, diabetes, and metabolic disease
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:35 PM
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She is the worst
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:33 PM
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Well no because as you say men and women are different, so a woman that likes men and women is going to look for different things in both.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:33 PM
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You should be careful about this. Extended use of testosterone usage in females causes cancer and all kinds of other diseases.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:29 PM
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Women even do this to girls, thats wild. Where the girls that did this bisexual, lesbians or a mix?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:27 PM
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I love how you leave out all the other benefits of being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:41 PM
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The issue with this tho is that fds wasn't an open forum, you couldn't go there and push back on anything they said as you would get insta banned. So idk if this is really a massive blow to FoS that they got banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 07:02 AM
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That's the point, i don't know if she is attracted to me and so the problem with the advice given is that the girl was attracted to the guy in that scenario, and when a girl thinks you are attractive enough it doesnt matter how you approach. Therefore the advice given could be totally useless since that girl found the guy attractive enough to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 08:08 AM
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so basically like 90% of the time you are outside a man needs t obe able to read your mind and know not to approach. gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 04:44 PM
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They’re now married This isnt really a usefull account becuase she was obviously attracted to him since she married him. Tell us how to approach even if the girl doesnt find us attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 04:41 PM
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I disagree men are really only going to have what like 10-15 years extra time to reflect, and most of that time they are to be young men so the ability to reflect is going to be quite poor. Men really don't get to deal with it early, men deal with it better because that is how we evolved. Women to a much larger degree carried on their genes, whereas a huge % of men for all of our species existence probably died kissless virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 04:36 AM
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Wrong. In your study it says from 15-29 85% of men are childless and 15-40 its 75%. The only reason it shows that most men are fathers is because it includes older men who got married decades ago who overwhelmingly have kids. You haven't read your own study have you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 10:08 PM
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The problem with this data is it includes all men above 15, which means it includes men who mostly had kids and/or got married when women still largely followed their traditional gender roles. The issues we face as a society right now when it comes to sex and relationships only affect young people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 10:00 PM
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this was from 2014 btw
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 09:57 PM
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church
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:41 AM
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If i had some other interest in the woman then sure. But most men would not bc the avg woman doesnt know how to appeal to men without relying on physical attraction, so most men don't bother bc they don't expect the conversation to be as interesting for them as it would be for the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 11:42 PM
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Women do the most house chores and childrearing in relationships and marriages. There are studies on this Women dont do this out of pure altruism. Women do most of the house chores because women on avg have a lower tolerance for mess, if women didn't cared less about mess then men they would do less chores. Women do most of the child rearing bc they get more time off work, almost always want to be the primary parent and more importantly they do not want to be the provider for a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 04:03 PM
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People call women it when they do literally any action or hold an opinion that a woman that supports men or hold women to account. The way you described it is never how its used and tbh doesnt even make sense in relation to the term. If your going to lie make a better one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 03:59 PM
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How much of it is just bluster and venting on their subreddit? like 95%, come on man a sub like that is almost all Rp'ers
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 03:44 PM
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It's ingrained in women from a very young age that It's important to look pretty; I'm quite sure the FDSers is aware of this. We already know men like pretty women. There's no obvious element of self improvement because it's already expected. But it isn't, looking pretty is a entry requirement for what most women want. If you actually want the best options you could have to commit, you have to put in the work to become an interesting person to talk to and improve the skills that would make you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 03:43 PM
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the problem isnt the standards its that they offer nothing in return for expecting those standards. Its like expecting to pay $20 for a rolex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 03:33 PM
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I have options but Id rather have sex with multiple women then just one No im not a relationship person, but im also not not a relationship person, I just having enjoy options.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:59 PM
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no a vasectomy if anything would be equal to birth control, but its not equal to either because an abortion and bc don't have a ridiculously high chance of sterilisation. Moreover the discussion of what is and isn't equal is irrelevant, the argument for abortion is that they should be able to exhaust all means they have to not be a parent. Saying that men both don't get this but also that men have to be more responsible then women is hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:54 PM
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no because if a woman had a choice to abort then the man should have a choice to say "I dont want to be a father" at the closest available time
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 06:30 PM
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men who watch a lot of porn are often a chore to have sex with - they are more likely to hurt you during sex, Im tired of this meme. porn is not 99% bdsm, most guys like normal sex which is why amateur, private snaps and onlyfans are so popular right now. Moreover I think more women then men like rougher sex, and its instead women who encourage their partners to be rougher which then makes that guy think he should replicate that in his next relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:53 PM
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Easily the latter, its much harder to keep OF a secret then a high body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 03:56 AM
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Id say most actually do, the problem is as a man you have to give all the benefits to being traditional up front, whereas the social mechanism which kept women honouring their end of the bargain are gone. So we are in this situation where women can easily reap all the benefits without paying any of the cost, so most men look at that and just think ok well there is no point bc ill get taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:08 AM
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No that's false, its not that most men don't want to be with a traditional woman, its that most men have no faith that any woman will actually be traditional; as most women want the benefits without the cost. Also inside these types of relationships men usually have to incur cost that they have no grantees will be made up for with any benefit, because the social mechanism that ensured the mans benefit for being traditional are gone. So most men even tho they would be down to be traditional, real…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:04 AM
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So there was this one girl that was an 8 who had previously indicated she was down to fuck(literally sent me nudes) but I was never in the city or I was busy. Finally I get some time so I take her out on a date, but she says shes going to club later that night with some friends, me thinking that it was an inv ask if I can come, she says yes. During the night I waste a bunch of money buying her drinks, we also get to talking with another group of people who were really cool in one of the smoking …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 05:22 PM
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There's always been a fine line between putting one's best foot forward and outright deception/manipulation. Anything calling itself 'pick up artistry' seems likely to be leaning towards the latter. The problem with this argument is that we exist in a society where all women lie anyway, they where tonnes of makeup that transforms their face, they edit the fuck out of their Instagram photos, they where all kinds push up bras and tight dresses. Its just not a valid critscism to call out PUA's as l…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 05:06 PM
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No the fact that women approached them shows the self improvement works, because improvement doesnt just mean that you are better at approaching it also makes women want to approach you more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 05:03 PM
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I think jd from scrubs fits super well
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 04:06 AM
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Which is ironic because most women that say this expect more out of a man then they have or even expect to have themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:50 AM
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Not really, how many people who get used and abused have histories being used and abused. Being a victimised like that is much more determined on your personality then it is on experience in dating specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:38 AM
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This study isnt useful to the conversation, this sub is about current dating dynamics of young people not the dynamics of men and women who are in their 50s.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:36 AM
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becuase we all know its men that have unrealistic expectations, not like we have all this data proving otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:30 AM
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Imagine saying jokes rape jokes contribute to rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:29 AM
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And how often does that happen? Where is your source that this is a cause of a significant chunk of male suicides? It happens more then incel murders of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:28 AM
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Yeah just like men being incels totally kills women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:27 AM
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They don't do it to prevent the man from entering the dating pool they do it because they say what they want to believe about women and thus themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:40 PM
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Feminist dont need to go on killing sprees because they have institutional power, which is worse. Instead of a lone feminist gunning down men in the street, they can just influence society in such a way that men hate living so much they kill themselves. And they wont even stop with men, idk how many women right now are on depression meds because they fell for the big lie, or how many will kill themselves when they hit thier 50s and are all alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:34 PM
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No thats not true it just has no baring on getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:30 PM
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Its like time just doesnt exist for you people and you see individuals whole lives as just one event that can be rearranged to fit what ever narrative you want. Try using your head and think. These guys did not start out like this, this is the end of a very long and depressing road.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:30 PM
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This wont be an issue as the way designer babies will come about is by egg cloning, then fertilising the egg and then analysing the genes and thus traits in each fertilised egg, then you pick the combination you like the most. So the child will always resemble the parents, since it will always have their genes, it will just have the best combination of thier genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:14 PM
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But the problem is women expect more traditional values of men, then men do to women. Infact id argue most women expect a man to essentially be 99% traditional but will say "im not looking for a trad man" based solely on the fact they dont want to be a housewife, which isnt even them rejecting the provider role really since they still want a guy who can make money, they just don't want to be reliant on him. Men on the other hand have basically given up everything, you can sleep around to a way h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:47 AM
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Unironically I think most men are more then willing to do this. Otherwise things like redpill and even figures like jordan peterson wouldn't be so popular, young men have shown that they want to improve in droves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:40 AM
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He said he had videos tho
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:28 AM
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I think men will as well tho, I cant see any man going into the doctors office and going, "i don't care if my kids short, ugly, has a small dick and is dumb", no all parents want the best for their children so if they can give them the genetic best I think most parents will take that. One of the unintended consequences about this that I think will happen is if sexuality is genetic I can see rates of non heterosexuality and transsexuality dropping to near 0% as well, not because I think people ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:23 AM
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You can get around all of this by him just emailing proof anonymously
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:15 AM
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tell him and send him the video.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:13 AM
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I think mostly what has happened is more then ever guys are red pilled not so much black as I would caution against underestimating the human brains capability for optimism bias. You really need to be ground into the dirt by society to become black pilled, anything less the average person will still believe their is hope for them personally. However on the other hand, a lot more guys are like beta blue pilled, where they have accepted all the prog feminist bullshit. So its not so much that the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:17 AM
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any self respecting man will leave, you should be able to maintain my interest without making me wait for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:00 PM
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Im thinking all of the technologies and systems that men turn toward to cope with the fact that they don't have a woman will reach a point where they are of a sufficient level to replace the need for men to pursue most women. So im talking sex robots, maybe some type of AI girlfriend, expansion of social media sites like OF or maybe the west might just do a japan and have most young women just do prostitution which would drive the price down significantly and so on. You get the idea, as it is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:51 PM
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The idea that they will take the initiative and be proactive is just wishful thinking. I definetly think for now you are right, but i feel in like 5-10 years they will do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:36 PM
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"Couples where the wife earns more than the husband are less satisfied with their marriage and are more likely to divorce." https://academic.oup.com/qje/article-abstract/130/2/571/2330321?redirectedFrom=fulltext
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 05:16 AM
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Wrong. Hypergamy is not finding attractive people more attractive then normal people. Hypergamy is only paying any attention to the most attractive minority of people. All of those simps would fuck a normal woman, therefore they are not hypergamous. At this point you are just making up some fairytail version of the term because you dont want to accept the reality of hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 04:53 AM
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We have the data
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:43 AM
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denying this is straight up bad faith. The projection. You are literally just making things up right now. Men paying attention to e girls because they are hot, is not the same as women only paying attention to HVM. Because those men do actually pay attention to other women, its just that normal women don't pay attention to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:42 AM
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Yes they are because hypergamy is not an action it refers go a a woman's preferred sexual strategy. And if women are marrying down and then choosing to divorce at high rates it shows that those women where just in denial about what they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:09 AM
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Liking attractive people is not hypergamy, hypergamy is only paying attention to the most attractive people which is not what goes on with those e girls. The guys that simp for egirls would readily pay attention to girls who are much less attractive, they just don't because none of those normal girls are interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:04 AM
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No hes is using the redpill definition, simply opting for the better option was never hypergamy you just made that up now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:00 AM
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I don't even think women are hypergamous. At least 25% of women outearn their husbands. That big of a percentage can't be classified as "outliers". If women were hypergamous by nature than women who outearn their husbands would be a very small percentage and could be attributed to being anomalies, but 1 in 4 women not being hypergamous makes the claim that hypergamy is inherent to all women per definition, simply not true. This would be good argument if divorce weren't at an all time high and on…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 02:58 AM
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guys dont like these girls because they have money, they like them because they are hot. These girls just get more attention because they are in front of more eyes then your average income hot girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 02:50 AM
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no men are polygamous, men dont care about a woman's status.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 02:48 AM
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If anything we will not see a rise open relationships we will see a rise in polygamy, incels and femcels. This current trajectory will not lead to everyone fucking everyone because most men just cannot feel any kind of romantic attachment to a woman who is sleeping with other men, moreover most women do not really want variety. And finally queers have no bearing either way since queer relationship culture is insular to the rest of society and they make up such a tiny percentage of the population…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:32 PM
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That's a false dichotomy, you can stay together without hating each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:23 PM
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An employer is not going to find a girls only fans who he hires. Her Colleagues Watched Her OnlyFans Account At Work. When Bosses Found Out, They Fired Her. ​ But its almost 2022 and if you think showing a titty or two is a huge thing that’s unfortunate. Its not about thinking its some massive deal its just very unnattractive to most men. Can women find guys while doing OF? Ofc, but most will either: never take them seriously, the relationship will end because of OF eventually or the guy will be…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:50 PM
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No most men dont want to date a woman who does onlyfans because they aren't polyamorous
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:22 PM
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No not really, you can get away with not showing your face and making good money. However that wont bring the validation that a lot of these girls want. This is really the reason people know who they are, these girls just want to be validated so they make porn in such a way that when there's a choice between privacy and validation they take validation, even if they could make their porn while maintaining privacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:39 AM
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Not necessarily if you don't show your face you are good, also you can get away with showing your face if you don't have a large public online presence. Most of the time girls get found out because they have public profiles on everything, and they use pics from their public profiles on their porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:37 AM
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Honesty i feel like the generation after mine is probably going to adopt these types of tactics as by the time they get into thier earl 20s so many gen z and millennial women are going to be rich single and desperate; so they can just clean house with all the milfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 03:14 PM
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That's just not true, you can definitely feel flattered by compliments someone gives to everyone if you trust that they actually mean it. The issue here is that women have developed this idea the man they are with needs to make them feel completely unique which is arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 09:08 PM
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LMAOOO good one You are missing the point, Im not saying most men want 50/50, Im saying most men want to or are willing to provide for their woman which is why they don't do the domestic stuff. Its women that don't want to accept the terms that comes with a man providing for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 04:04 AM
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Men want to split the bill on dates, don't want to be the sole provider but they don't want to split the household chores and childcare into a strict 50/50 either. Wrong the guys that want to split are willing to do 50/50 split with everything. Most guys however, are willing to be the provider its actually women that don't want to give up their careers bc they are afraid to be dependant on a man, its women have a lower tolerance for mess so they do more cleaning, its women who want to care for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 11:46 PM
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No but that wouldn't make them conservative, that would like me calling a bisected bread loaf a burger even tho there is no patty. For them to be conservative they must believe everyone must adhere to traditional principles, what they are is just misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 11:43 PM
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That's going to happen irrespective of who approaches who, the only way to prevent this is to develop an attractive personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:59 PM
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I don’t think I really need to list my accomplishments off to you The fact that you said "accomplishments" makes me think you haven't done much improvement at all. You have to get off your high horse and accept that just because you find professional success attractive does not mean that men must do the same and we almost never do. Your personality is never going to be attractive to men if you dress it for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:57 PM
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What makes you think I don’t? when you said "Fear of being used for sex. Only wanted for our looks, seen as a conquest, bragging rights". Anyone that has confidence that they are offering something of value doesnt fear that what they are offering wont ever be valued. So what have you done to improve then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:43 PM
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Agreed. Dudes don’t care I’m funny, that I have a job I am passionate about, that I have hobbies, That's probably because you don't make jokes they find funny and your hobbies probably arent interesting to them. Attraction to personality is like attraction to physical appearance its all relative. Its like this, I can recognise Cara Delavigne is attractive bc she makes a lot of money on her looks, but that doesnt mean she does anything for me at all. When it comes to the job that's not important …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:39 PM
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To add on to this, women don't generally get the option of "making up for their looks in other areas." That's not true at all. Women are just generally just worse in those other areas because their physical attractiveness allowed them to get by without developing a particularly attractive personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:31 PM
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fear of being used for sex. Only wanted for our looks, seen as a conquest, bragging rights So many girls say this but then why don't you do anything about it. We men are humans as well we aren't just sex crazed beast, we can recognise interesting quality people just as easily as you can. I just don't understand why women don't think to self improve on their social skills. When a guy recognises part of his personality is weak say, he's awkward or not interesting, he improves by fixing that in way…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:22 PM
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not really because its much more likely a man will be ok being alone. Not so much for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 11:21 PM
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No this is a terrible strategy because her options will dry up like her looks, and then she will be left to die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 09:18 PM
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So I take it you would be ok if a guy just threw you away if he found a a nice hotter woman then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 09:16 PM
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high number of sexual partners, incongruous expectation of a partner, promiscuous presentation online and in real life, low level homemaking skills, being disagreeable, being highly assertive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 09:12 PM
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no they aren't women have agency, agreeing to some thing you didnt really want to do isnt bullying you are just weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 08:06 PM
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What is average though? This is such a clear obfuscation attempt, if you don't want to address the question just don't reply instead of trying to derail everything. If you don't know what an average man is use the context of the situation to make a guess, make a point based on that guess and then add in your semantic analysis at the end. Clearly the average man here is the average of young men in western countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 08:03 PM
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Same applies to gf's women are not bullied into this
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 07:48 PM
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Well thats just wrong. The drama was caused by the immense amount of money and power that was at stake.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:00 PM
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also most men don't bully their wives into doing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:59 PM
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yes because I think more and more, men will leave the dating pool, and despite women having a worse and worse time because of it, there hubris will prevent them from adapting to attract men. Which will result in a society thats even worse then it is now, way more men are going to be virgins or celibate, and way more women are basically going to be sharing afew guys that will treat them like trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:51 PM
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you said "men" so you actually where talking about him, also most men don't bully their wives into doing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:48 PM
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How many of those men would have been willing to wife her? Probably very few of them. Literally 0
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:46 PM
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The "men age like wine, women age like milk" idea did not work out for the husbands in this case. Yeah because as a man your main attractor is tied up in a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:45 PM
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Brutal lesson for the gents! "The wall" seems to be a non-issue for those women. The wall doesnt refer to sex its about relationships, women will always be able to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:45 PM
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I don't think harems are a good idea. I've read enough about how much they've ruined Sultans in the ottoman empire. Yeah but those people had money and power, joe shmoe doesnt have shit for these women to kill each other over.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:41 PM
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You have to look at this in context. Firstly just because the woman initiated does not mean the man didn't want it all along, so its less that men don't want polygamy but its that most men just expect their female partner to not want or be comfortable with it so they never ask. Secondly the argument is that men want polygamy not polyamory, its a very different thing to be ok or want with your girl having sex with other men then to want to have sex with other women. So most men can still want pol…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:40 PM
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You are wrong sex bots will make it worse for all women, because its not just the ugly men that will disappear, men up and own the chain will dip out and the ones that stay will have far less interest in women. It will be a complete paradigm shift that will leave women with almost no leverage, it will basically make women what men are now but with relationships instead of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:52 AM
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You can't just force a woman to date someone she isn't attracted to. I don't think this needs to happen for women to find most men attractive again. Most men found women who slept around highly unattractive before, yet we learned to accept women becoming more modern. Im not convinced that women cant do the same for men when it comes to a mans resources and status, especially since women are much more socially sensitive. Alternatively we can solve this problem by going back and just shaming peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:48 AM
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The cruel irony is that most women do not need sex, but sex is readily available to them any day of the week. Most men need sex, but getting sex takes a lot of time and effort for the average man. But alternatively women do not get the relationships they want either
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:02 AM
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emotional intimacy, platonic physical affection, general comfort and closeness to others, etc. For men none of these can be romantic without sex, and until then they will all just be their platonic forms or most likely the man just wont feel emotionally intimate or actually comforted or close. So the point isn't that "sexual desires aren't being met by them" its that no romantic feelings can be had period before sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:00 AM
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Its more that romance just cant come about on the mans side without at least the expectation of sexual intimacy first. Literally for most men you just cant feel any kind of love without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:56 AM
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Man makes a point about women behaviour in general, woman responds by making unfalsifiable claim that she or people in her life are exceptions. Classic woman response. The conversation is not about you or about exceptions you have seen its about what is or is not the general rule. And the general rule is that women have incredibly fragile egos, most women do not want their men to acknowledge other women are attractive, most women want their man to always say they look attractive, hell most women…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:39 AM
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I’ve never heard of a woman’s womanhood being threatened. Body positivity movement. Do i need to say more?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:35 AM
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they mean that men get offended when they say things specifically just to be rude to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:27 AM
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no because there are lots of men, in fact id argue most men, that have access to a lot of women who also agree with everything those men say. For example look at chris browns old song loyal, or that famous future quote when he said "she belongs to the streets", i dont think anyone is going to argue these men dont get what ever woman they want, yet they can still plainly identify the problems with hypergamy just the same. the only men that say hypergamy isn't an issue are those that specifically …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:14 PM
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the only people saying they would be bothered by this are women in this thread. Female projection strikes again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 04:09 AM
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no im not a child
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 04:08 AM
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What should we be telling women who can't get men to commit? Firstly lower your standards, im not saying fuck men who you find repulsive, but so many women have hard types and wont even look at a man outside of said type, or they have some standard that isn't relevant to finding a good relationship but they hold for ego reasons. So really evaluate what standards are "would like" and what standards are "must haves", and compromise on the "would like"s as that will enable you to be more selective …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 05:37 PM
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No it doesnt really, you choose to be entitled and not respect peoples time and energy. You can easily choose to treat men how you treat women at least with respect to how much effort you put in.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:56 PM
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Yes they are. No they aren't. ​ It absolutely can be. Sorry to shatter the delusion, but you're not getting/retaining a job at a top VC firm if you're not competent and hard working. Same with running a successful business, or becoming a surgeon. And regardless I don't believe I ever said how much someone earns indicates what you mentioned at all. Its not, rarity and utility in skillset is what determines how much you earn. If competence and drive where determining factors I could go out into a …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 08:44 PM
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The reality is these proxies are the tools we use to identify common traits, so you cannot separate them. No they aren't, you can separate them and most people do. How much one earns is not a marker for work ethic or competence, its a marker for how useful your skills are to the market. Moreover most people understand this, that's why so many people hate the 1% and think teachers should be paid more, its because they know that earnings is much more depended on skill set then drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:07 PM
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Wrong. They don't date the McDonalds worker because she will almost certainly be a gold digger, she probably wont know how to act around your friends and family so their so social stigma and lets be honest really attractive women don't work those kinds of jobs for too long anyway before some sugar daddy comes along to pay their bills or they start an OF that allows them the financial freedom to get a better job. Another issue with this is you are taking a hyperbolic phrase literally, ofc someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:00 PM
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I disagree, it's not that smart likes to marry smart it's that people date in Thier social circles and professionals usually have very professional highly educated circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:43 PM
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Its not about money or uniqueness, although to that last point I would argue it is incredibly unusual for men to have dinner bought for them, what it is about is a reciprocation of the implicit intention he showed. Women do not want to straight up just be asked "do you want to have sex", so we do things to ask that question without explicitly asking it by doing things like taking her out for dinner. And so men get annoyed when women don't fuck after dates, because we accommodate womens feelings …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 09:10 PM
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They actually cant tho, because these guys just fuck them and leave since they have all the leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 04:43 PM
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This is probably true since a man loosing his job leads to an increased chance of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 04:12 PM
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He wasn't treating her like a wife, they where in a 50/50 modern dating type situation and she didn't want it, she wanted a provider traditional man, yet when we look at what FDS thinks of what men want in return for being traditional they scorn and miss reparent what men want. FDs will not make women better they are just mad that men wont be traditional for them when they aren't traditional women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 03:57 AM
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You don't see what I see because you don't want to. The reality is being submissive, not having a high body count, being co operative, not wearing revealing clothes etc are all traits that most would consider traditional woman to hold; yet as ive shown when presented with them the women of FDS see these as bad things. In addition to that when presented with a man who wants a more modern relationship they scoff at that as well. My repulsion for this 50/50 relationship had gotten so bad, that I co…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 03:09 AM
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now you are just making things up. What kind of statements did I say they where making(respond in verbatim)? And what kind of refutations do you think those statements requre?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 02:29 AM
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Its not because this poster is not going to be a virgin is she? She is not going to dress modestly, shes not going to let a man lead. Hell look at this other post on FDS they literally admit they do not want to be traditional women https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/qq4f8g/woman_translates_the_real_meanings_behind_mens/ The women on FDS only want the benefits of traditionalism, they don't actually want to be traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 02:26 AM
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you say that and then I go there and find post that read like this "Don’t travel for a man. Especially on your own dime. If he was interested he would travel to you or at very minimum pay for your flight and accommodations. https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/qq6op9/dont\_travel\_for\_a\_man\_especially\_on\_your\_own\_dime/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 02:19 AM
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So if I make a post saying “not all women are whores or cheaters or sleep around or commit paternity fraud”, I won’t get downvoted into oblivion, accused of being a cuck, accused of being a “Post Wall” broad with a hoard of cats, a high n count woman or a simp? You have more faith in these people than I do but then again I don’t have faith in people as whole. No you will because they are making clearly general statements, and you are being purposefully obtuse and rebutting them with an invalid a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 02:13 AM
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So why do these people make it an absolute then? They aren't making absolute statements, any statement about a natural thing whether it be human animal or plant should be presumed as a general statement unless stated otherwise. So the issue is with you just not understanding language.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 12:10 AM
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Ah so you picked a bunch of guys that are all tall, have 6 packs, good looking faces, are rich and have a bunch of clout. Really wide range there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 10:47 PM
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Simple we are natural beings and nature never produces anything as intended 100% of the time. Therefore all statements of truth about nature and thus humanity are arguments about averages, modes and generalities overall. Therefore hypergamy does not have to be absolute, it just has to have general truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 10:37 PM
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hypergamy is fact, just becuase you dont want to accept it doesnt mean it does not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 12:17 AM
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Redpill was never about self improvement, its purely about learning uncomfortable truths. What you do after learning those truths, whether it be self improvement or arguing online, is up to you; but at the end of the day a red pill man is simply a man that has learned the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 07:38 PM
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id doubt it becuase most guys dont care about thier social media
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 03:34 AM
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Overpopulation solved overnight Overpopulation doesnt exist
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 03:33 AM
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And honestly how are you sure that women wanted kids as opposed to society as a whole forcing them to? People got married to people they didn't love all the time. Because aside from men who made up the other 50% of society? ill give you a hint it starts with a W. Its just preposterous to believe that in a traditionalist and conservative society women would just magically be these modern liberals hiding their opinions from everyone else. No, we can see this with older women and we can even see th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 10:30 PM
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no they dont lol, idk if you know any woman who is from a 2nd or 3rd world country, they do not move and then suddenly become more liberal, they largely hold the same beliefs they left with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 07:49 PM
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Ok then why do most mothers and grand mothers shame and disown their daughters when they do this stuff. Surely by your logic they shouldn't be doing that since they can recognise society has changed. The reason they still judge is because they legitimately are just as traditional and conservative as the men of that era as well. Women of the past where not slaves, most of them legitimately wanted to be married have a family and let their man lead the household.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 03:06 PM
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No its because they lived in a much more conservative society and so their value set was more traditional. If you plucked an average woman from the past and brought her to now, she isnt suddenly going to want to change into a modern woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 04:45 AM
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Firstly both young men and women had these pressures, and also we wouldn't be talking about women with modern sensibilities here. In the past the overwhelming majority of women wanted to be married with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 03:20 AM
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Commitment and communication are very important, but there is just no chance of any kind of romantic relationship without sexual attraction. Maybe a good friendship sure, but no chance of a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 11:13 PM
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After reading your response its clear that you have no idea what you are talking about, so i look forward to you either not responding or just running away from each argument because you know you cant refute what im saying. ​ So none of your points made any sense. This is the most illogical comment I’ve received in this thread. First of all, here’s the link: https://youtu.be/8QbMS9Zlk2w Next time, don’t write a paragraph about not believing me. I don’t care. The time stamp is 1:59:10. Watch from…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 11:11 PM
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That show had an episode where they told a black girl "You're not obnoxious and rude like all the other typical black women. You're nice and quiet." The reason that I don't believe that A. this was said how you are explaining it or B. was said at all, is because these shows are all recorded with timestamps on youtube and therefore the lack of link tells me your probably just lying. Moreover they tell girls of all races they are obnoxious, so ur point is moot for that reason as well. ​ If they're…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 06:27 PM
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You're the one claiming that not being attracted to bisexual men is prejudice while not being attracted to transwomen is not prejudice. Shouldn't the burden be on you that the distinction is valid? No because I've already refuted that point with a sufficient answer, when I said there is no physical difference between people of the same sexuality but their is between trans and cis people. I'm just pointing out a double standard I think you're trying your best to avoid. Women get to be just as ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 06:05 PM
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Here to remind you that the sum of your one lived experience doesn't cover all man kind so in fact, in addition to the gossiping and posturing you just admitted to, men get in women's face and attempt to shame them all the time. You cant call out my lived experiences as not being representative with what is clearly your own lived experience. The Fresh and Fit podcast builds its user base by bringing on party and industry girls to try and talk down to them. Their show actually proves my point, be…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:25 AM
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Women will have 45 bodies by 25 and then only consider guys as dating options if they are at or above their professional/economic level. The point is you have scorned having to be a traditional woman and you pressure men to accept that you are now this modern free woman, but you still expect men to live up to our traditional role of being economically successful. So the point is pick one, either we are all modern people and you get to fuck who you want but we don't have to have drive or go to un…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 01:55 AM
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Yes the numbers are and when asked men say they dont care what a woman earns, the only reason people marry like this is because peoples social circles tend to be economically homogenous and you cant maintain a middle class lifestyle on one income in most places.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 01:35 AM
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Many women want to be traditional. no women want everything, women want to have the traditional benefits of a man with the safety of being a modern women. Women should choose to look for either one, becuase grasping for both leaves you with nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 07:40 PM
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no they dont, plenty of rich men have trophy wives, men only care about a womans earnings as an indicator that she wont try to gold dig. Her actual earings dont factor in.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 09:10 PM
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Young men are flabby, weak, and underachieving in their careers and earning potential. But women are equal members of society socially, and have like 10x the body counts they could before. Women cant ask for a traditional man that professionally excels and then not be a traditional women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:04 PM
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Nope. You have to make an argument. Because right now you are just questioning down to definition of terms without actually saying anything. In your reply you have to define sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:49 PM
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Its not prejudice because prejudice is unfair discrimination that is not based on reason. Being unattracted to the male physical form is a fully reasonable and fair justification to not be attracted to the trans women that have it. Sexuality is not political or social. For example a straight man is not attracted merely to what society considers a woman at that moment, he will allways be attracted to the form of cis women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:43 AM
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Its not that unattractive women have it harder they just dont want to build a personality outside of thier looks unlike the unnattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 09:56 PM
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Its not about fucking up or down, its about the fact that the tinder girl is always a girl that everyone could have, but with the escort as soon as she is with you and has stopped escorting she is no longer a girl that everyone can have.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 09:52 PM
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I’ll just speak for myself here and say personally I only find straight sex arousing. Gay sex doesn’t disgust me, but it also doesn’t arouse me. I just feel neutral. It would be more like you saying knees don’t turn you on because you prefer butts. It clearly does because, using the analogy again, i don't find knees attractive but I if see a girl that has them im not going to turn her away. You will turn away a man who finds men attractive, and therefore the idea of a man who is attracted to men…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 09:33 PM
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Except you’re not though. It just means you only find straight sex arousing. Not that you find gay sex disgusting. Yes you are. No it doesnt mean you jsut find straight sex arousing, because that would be like me saying I don't date women with knees because im an ass man. No I don’t because it works the same in reverse. Many of my gay friends are turned off by women and the idea of straight sex. Doesn’t make them misogynists anymore than a straight person not being turned on by gay sex makes the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 07:58 PM
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I'd say another 25% of women are very into it. However, this isn't the blessing you might think it sounds like. It's fetishism. When you're dating a woman and you find out that her ex was also covered in tattoos, and her ex before that, and her ex before that - pretty soon you come to realise that you're just a like-sized replaceable phone lockscreen wallpaper I dont really see a problem. This is just having a type, which is pretty common. On top of that, there are women who live in the 50 years…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 06:16 PM
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You are thinking about this all wrong. The aim is not to try to appeal to women at all aestetically, because most of your pull factor will come from your charisma; professional success and just the fact that you look well put together regardless of style niche. Id also add an issue with this thinking is that if you do get with a woman then you are probably going to have to continue dressing somewhat like what ever style you chose, and if its a style you dont like that will be really annoying. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 06:10 PM
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And you proved the mans point
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 08:58 PM
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this seems super out of context
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 08:57 PM
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I dont think so I think you have a better chance at cold approach then on a dating app especially if you aren't going for people who are out of your league and you are picking good spots.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 08:10 PM
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Some random girl I meet at a bar? "Sorry I have a boyfriend" even if you don't is fine. no this is terrible advice, just be honest and say "im not attracted to you but thanks for the compliment" or some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:34 AM
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I wouldnt say this, becuase that gives the guy hope in thinking "maybe if I get to know her more theres my in" she should just say she isnt physically attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:33 AM
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clear direct and not rudely. Literally a "Im flattered but im not attracted to you" is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:32 AM
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no becuase men arent women. Men can simultaneously want the best sex while settling for average sex. The phenomena you are seeing is men wanting variety not wanting something better, which porn did not create that's just male heterosexuality's natural tendency toward polygamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:28 AM
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that was never the argument
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:25 AM
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I see it all the time. Well not the marrying part. But I see so many girls that ride the cock carousel and then date a beta long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 06:07 PM
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I dont think a woman not ever loving a beta in the moment was the argument, from what I gather it was more like she gave her best years to chad and then settled for the beta. So its not like she doesnt love the beta its that she never considered him as an option when she was at her hottest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 06:02 PM
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I've actually seen girls absolutely obsessed with dudes who were ok-looking at best or even a little dusty-looking We all have, but the question is what options did those girls have? It doesnt really prove anything if they are 5s, hes a 6 and hes the best option in their social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 05:58 PM
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The problem for women is that most of them are not those women. a lot of women land on the side of having so much male attention in some form that they think its annoying, but they misinterpret there distain for too much attention with not liking attention at all. We know women are more social then men, Id argue that because we have 2x female ancestors then male ones it shows that evolutionarily men have evolved to better deal with loneliness, we know from movements like the body+ movement that …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 05:56 PM
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No because the reality is that most trans women do not get bottom surgery, moreover most of them do not look cis either; and even the ones that maybe meet both criteria might not look cis enough outside of their clothes. And this fact is not going to change until we have some major break throughs in cosmetic surgery, as the human eye is incredibly good at picking up masculine and feminine features in other humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:15 PM
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Because you are effectively admitting that you think that gay relationships and sex are disgusting. Don't you think its a bit fucked up to think that you could have a gay friend, and then think that he could put you off any guy you where interested in because you think him having sex is so disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:10 PM
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Firstly bigotry is not actions its positions you hold, so opinions. Functionally a bigot and a non bigot can act exactly the same because the only difference is the ideas in their head. When it comes to how one can support lgbt and still be a bigot, you can think of it the same way of how white saviours are still pretty racist even tho they outwardly support minorities. But here instead of wrapping up racial condescension in platitudes, the bigoted woman see's gay men(and by extension bi men) as…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:01 PM
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When it comes to bisexual men. The argument is not that they hate bi men outright, its that women are homophobic and/or biphobic. This then is called hatred because a lot of people consider bigotry to be a form of hatred regardless of intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 11:07 PM
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I don't think most men tie women's value as humans to who they fuck, they just tie their value as a romantic partner to who they have fucked. The feeling that women have that they aren't valued as humans, is just the void left when a man doesnt want to fuck you but because you lack significant amounts of personal growth, the man also doesnt respect you either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 09:44 PM
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Yes. Which is homophobia, as much as many of these women do not want to accept it. 100% agree. People like to act as if women are less bigoted then men but we are just as bigoted as each other, but just in different ways. Where a man will say "fuck off f*g I don't want you near me" a woman will say "sure you can do my hair and we can be friends, but the second you have any kind of sexual contact with a guy I like, that man will forever be tainted for me as gay; and I will now be completely turne…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 09:38 PM
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By that logic why do we find skinnier people more attractive than fat people. evolution as well, being too skinny or too fat because are clear signs of bad health and thus bad genes. Therefore we evolved to be unattracted to them becuase all the humans that didn't discriminate had unhealthy kids and didn't pass on thier genes. Just to be clear these processes occurred hundreds of thousands of years ago btw For that matter why do people like long hair in a woman? Evolutionary wise it's a liabilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:52 AM
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the summer before I went to university I watched a bunch of youtube videos on charisma, and some on style. Then when I went to university I made it a point in my first year to really just go to as many social gatherings as possible, especially the ones where people drink, and just tried them out. Really what I've found is that the opening to any discussion or conversation is really the hardest part so aslong as you have some good opening techniques and afew to sustain the convo, then you can jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 11:38 PM
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but compared to muh sex robots, You say its a joke but some way some how women will be physically replaced as monopoliser of sex for straight men, because there is just too much money to be made.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 01:10 AM
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No because our attractiveness doesnt come from purely from our physical bodies. Attractiveness overall is what would make a normal distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 02:31 AM
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Its not that our attraction is not normally distributed its that the main part of our attraction has been taken away from us. So its more that women dont sexually valued men for our looks, but instead for our capability of providing a life for the her(whether she needs the assistance or not) and generally how much society at large respects us. So now that men and women are equal in society, that young men are being left behind professionally and the general demenor of a woman turning to that of …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 08:40 PM
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And there are women who arent born with arms, neither of which are valid examples of women when talking about women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 11:22 PM
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introversion doesnt mean that you don't want people to validate that you are attractive, it just means you dont need a lot of it. Therefore the point is imagine that amount of attention an introvert actual wants, and then say they only get a small minority of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:26 PM
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yes ofc idk how this is even a question
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:34 AM
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Which is why its a straw man. You cant just imagine up some fantasy ppd posters, and then use criticism of their flaws to rebut my arguments. Reply to what im saying otherwise its a straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:32 AM
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No it isnt, what I said was a direct response to what you said. Again stop posting here if you are just going to dodge arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:28 AM
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So its it reasonable for me to expect a 25min blowjob or hand job after every round of sex? No ofc its not, thats a lot work, she probably wont even do it right and its primary my responsibility to get myself off when im fucking her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:26 AM
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this is a complete non sequitur, its laughable how scared you are to actually address what's been said. If you dont want to admit to the realities of hypergamy because it hurts your feelings just don't post here , doing this is just embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 05:03 PM
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it is a straw man because im not a they, so pretending as if my position is the same as the amalgamation of the worst ones you have seen on this sub is fallacious
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 05:00 PM
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I think we have very different experiences dude. Most of the sex I have involves both parties working towards mutual gratification and tends to result in the same. No it doesnt at all, most sex involves the guy doing the fucking, which is 90% of the physical work. And we can even tell that is the case because when ever a couple has sex in a position that enables a woman to engage mechanically much more in sex the rates of guys literally breaking their dick sky rockets. Which suggest that women i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 02:49 AM
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Shes supposed to be honest about her past, and he should probably not have settled for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:40 PM
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The two aren't mutually exclusive. Also for what you are saying to be true women would have to have no understanding that their looks are going to fade, and that all the validation they get is just because they arer nice ppl instead of them being attractive and young. Idk why its so hard to just admit that women are human beings and have flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:18 PM
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Yes it 100% does
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:14 PM
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Its not about her having a former boyfriend, its about the fact that she looks worse now when she wants to settle down. And how the doctor grinded to get where he is and now realised he still lost out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:14 PM
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What this shows is that if you have success in your 30s as a man dont settle for a woman past her prime, you should go younger and find some woman in her early - mid 20s and marry her instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:13 PM
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I’ll do my best but I can only work with the information you’re giving me. But lets be honest your best is almost never good enough, and guys accept that. When a guy cant get off from fucking he doesnt tell the girl to roll over and suck him off, 9 times out of 10 he just jerks himself off. Idk why women have this weird sense of entitlement that a guy has to do literally all of the physical work, get himself off, and get you off. That makes 0 sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:44 PM
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No because that's not my job. My job is to fuck and get me off, im already doing literally all of the work, if she wants to get off that's her responsibility. When two gay guys fuck the bottom jerks himself off, straight women should do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:41 PM
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No we aren't, we are talking about all women, your argument was that overall women are becoming less hypergamous. Therefore to prove that we need to talk about women overall. This again is also just not true since more women are choosing not to get married; getting married way later or getting divorced early, then those that choose to marry down. Therefore women's hypergamy is not reducing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:36 PM
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I have another study with 10,000 people and it coincides with the study I linked. Ofc you do sweetheart. ​ Also, you'll realize the red pilled studies have even smaller sample sizes but they'll blindly believe those. This is firstly a straw man because I have never presented a study that had a similar sample size and said "look this study is infallible you have to believe it". Moreover not all claims require the same amount of evidence, so saying "but your studies" doesnt follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:32 PM
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Women go for 20% of men =/= ONLY 20% men get laid. "And male students are less sexually active than their female counterparts, with just a over a third (34 per cent) saying they’ve had sex during their time at university" https://web.archive.org/web/20210429143404/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/family/parenting/university-students-arent-having-sex-parents-dont-know-whether/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 08:00 PM
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this study has a sample size of like 1000 people, no where near big enough
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 07:38 PM
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so 80/20 is debunked yet again its really not, firstly and idk how i haven't seen anyone mention this; 4% of guys in this are gay, who even your study shows have sex at 2x the rate of straight men. So almost 10% of those who guys are having sex the most are gay. Secondly the top 20% of men are having sex with with 50%+ of the women that want to have sex according to your data.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 07:28 PM
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More women are marrying men who make less than she does than ever before. Many more women are choosing not to get married to get married or divorcing soon after. So we aren't seeing women settle at all, if anything women are digging their heels in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 07:09 PM
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Most of the women and probably some of the men escort in the middle east after they finish their time on the show.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:16 AM
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Yeah, if there were five thousand thirsty chicks trying to get on your dick every day, you obviously can't fuck 'em all. You'd get a hell of a lot more picky. No you wouldnt, look at famous men, they fuck all kinds of women all the time even average looking ones. For example, arnold schwarzenegger had a kid with a maid who is way more ugly then his wife. Why? Because he found her fuckable and she was easily accessible. If anything you would select more for ease of fucking more then you would for…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:55 AM
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it doesnt work that way, because 1.most guys don't have the talent and 2. you pretty much have to be rich and well connected to get clout in that industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 10:10 PM
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idk how it is for women your age but if you are looking at getting girls in their early 20s and younger clubs and parties are a terrible place to get women, 9 out of 10 girls is literally just there to get drunk and be looked at.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 08:29 PM
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simple, clout. Clout is the ultimate feature that if you have it, it doesnt really matter what you look like or how you act; you will still get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 08:00 PM
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will likely not be using sex dolls as they will still be able to attract actual women for sex. no because if we look at women even 9/10s get careers despite the fact that they could very well just find a guy who would take care of them. You can even see this in men where even men who will get a lot of women will still watch porn. So what will most likely happen is where guys take the approach now of fuck every girl you can that breaks that seal of being attractive, they will probably act more li…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 07:53 PM
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This is unlikely because men buying sex dolls is not going to reduce their attractiveness to women, it will just reduce women's attractiveness to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 07:31 PM
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yeah but most men are in the west are from older generations that dont have to deal with the current bs. There are about as many 60 year olds as there 20 year olds. So its not that the RP and BP take isnt correct, its just that these arguments only apply to young people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 07:22 PM
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Already sales of sex dolls are going up and sex toys as well. This will go up and although it will not be a norm, it will serve as a material by which to quench men's cravings. It will be recommended by therapists and other professionals to lonely people as a coping mechanism to their loneliness. No I doubt it, I think they will 100% become the norm, just like how once women where able to provide for themselves most stopped trying to be completely reliant on a man. I think when it comes to sex d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 03:35 AM
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Any history of cheating on BF's for any reason outside of a guy that was literally criminally abusive Being unreasonable Not being principled Excessive makeup Dishonesty Untrustworthy Having a flat ass Flatulence Hairy forearms
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:39 PM
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We arent talking about bullying we are talking about when women are just overly nice for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 04:14 PM
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Apparently child rearing is no biggie and women don’t deserve respect for going through that process its not that child rearing is a nothing burger, its just that when you are sending your kids to school for most of the day and you are getting your life financed for you by someone else that job just isn't equivalent to a full time job, especially a well paid one. Apparently no man wants children and therefore women only have children for themselves Its not that no man wants children, its that wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 04:12 PM
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I think women are generally more considerate (considering other people’s feelings) OP /u/jbo99 . That’s part of the reason we come off as kinder because we generally are the literal definition of compassionate. But its not compassion tho, its insecurity. Women are so insecure at the person they are talking to taking negative implicit meaning from their communication that they overcompensate. Compassion would be just saying those extra nice things because you mean it, but women do it because that…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:48 PM
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The thing is tho, a lot of that sweetness isn't genuine. Instead I think women do it because they tend to focus so much on implicit communication, which means that when they want to be nice they have to go overboard to both the explicit and implicit interpretations are positive. To give an exaggerated example, say you work with a woman, you get your hair cut one day and walk into work. That woman would say "oh look at you, your hair is always amazing"(statement A), instead of "wow your hair look…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:39 PM
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when it comes to the messages that men get about women being at least kinder, softer, more caring and that they are "some how the final piece to your life that will make everything good", these messages are strong for guys that don't get a lot of early dating experiences with girls. And when this breaks its really easy to fall into hatred if you aren't a naturally good at frank and honest introspection.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:23 PM
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Its not that they prefer abusive men its that women often have really specific types, they will find the highest quality guy who meets x y and z criteria that will commit to them. So aslong as he still meets those criteria, a lot of women will put up with abuse from him because they don't think they can find a upgrade who meets x y and z that will commit that isn't abusive. Its kind of like those guys who are really into ass where they will date and fuck girls who have meh faces not because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:40 PM
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They wont tho because they are addicted to the attention and validation from Instagram, as well as the ability to still keep the door open for a higher quality guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:14 PM
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Well 2 things, firstly I think a lot of women and the women in their circles are having so much sex that they don't really have a realistic context for what is a normal level of bodies so even if they lowball their true number its still really high. Secondly, and id argue more impactfully, polite and popular culture right now tells women that all the negative repercussions from sleeping around where from sexism in society, so a lot of women will just tell you straight up because they don't under…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:12 PM
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Women have Instagram to engage in the comparison game, I think its that women have Instagram to engage in the validation game. In the past women would have to go to some event irl to get like 1/10th of the validation they get now, when they did guys had a shot at approaching them. But with insta they get 10x the validation but from the mans perspective he is disproportionally disadvantaged in approaching her now the more unattractive she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:06 PM
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Firstly young women earn more then young men. Then there is also no social pressure for attractive men to comit to any of the women he is seeing, and too many women would rather be 2 of 7 in an chads roster then give Jeremy a second glance unless he is willing to date her. this then creates an imbalance down the line because every girl that isn't in a roster now has inflated value thus allowing them to ignore even more guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 08:58 PM
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Remember, this is correlation, not causation. No its definitely causation for the simple reason that if you are taxed by socialising, instead of invigorated, you will be less likely and able to do it which results in lower socialising skill and thus women will be unattracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 08:48 PM
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Thats what im thinking, if you dont sleep around then its probably way easier to lock down a man who is actually wanting a relationship; because you are so much more rare. I say the people that are really fucked are the women that have a tonne of bodies that decide after they want a committed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 08:42 PM
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The problem here is all things are never going to be equal, the 75k woman is undoubtedly going to have less time, probably not going to want to leave her career to have kids, gonna be more likely to develop A type personality traits etc. You cant get something from nothing, and what your life becomes when you earn that much money as a woman is what's unattractive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 08:35 PM
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You do get the feeling that some male commenters truly believe everything a woman does is to attract men Well commenters wouldn't think that if women weren't constantly overcompensating by saying they aren't doing "x" thing to attract men. I mean ffs its gotten to the point now where women will dress in the skimpiest clothes with a full face of contoured makeup, but say that they are dressing that way for themselves, and that it just so happened that their fashion taste perfectly align with what…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 08:27 PM
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Like, most women who are doing well in our careers/financial lives aren't doing it to attract men, we're doing it because we know more money = better retirement and housing stability. No I think most women tell themselves that because women now a days find it impossible to accept that they do anything to look good for a man, because the rhetoric has devolved into "wanting to look attractive to men" = "only valuing yourself based on your attraction to men". But I think ultimately you can see that…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 08:15 PM
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It seems to be a feast or famine type thing, where women will have certain criteria that are really strict that you have to meet; but outside those a lot of them will tolerate abusive levels of bullshit from their guy because they are afraid that no other guy will achieve those criteria again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 08:08 PM
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And if you're trying to get into a relationship, you're making it more difficult for yourself because you won't be attracting the right kind of men — men who fall for your personality, instead of only your body. Worse than that. You will either attract guys that you dont want to be with that will lie to you about committing. Or you will attract a guy that will actually be genuine and want to commit, but he just wont be able to because we just arent hard wired to be that sexually open with our re…
/r/RedPillWomen05/05/21 06:06 PM
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Agreed and ironically not having life savings could definitely effect you for a huge % of your entire life. So your choice of words is very apt.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/07/20 06:16 PM
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hopefully they still have the death penalty in illinois
/r/PussyPassDenied17/07/20 04:34 PM
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why would you spend your life savings on a wedding. Christ the guy who is marrying her is going to be financially fucked if he isn't already.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/07/20 04:34 PM
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