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Are you nobody, then? Every person who murders someone does not have a guilty but mentally ill claim, it's a specific legal framework that you are clearly unfamiliar with. You're embarrassing yourself saying things that so completely demonstrate you're out of your depth on this topic
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 10:30 PM
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Ok, so you don't understand the legal standard we're discussing. That's what I figured. Odd that you're still so confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 10:05 PM
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So you don't believe she was in psychosis when the murders were committed? That's a reasonable stance, and the evidence will back you up if you're correct
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 10:04 PM
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Do you have cause numbers where a man was found to be psychotic at the time of his offense and guilty but mental ill was rejected? If you do, I can try to distinguish those cases where mentally ill men went to prison for you. These kinds of cases are very fact specific
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 10:02 PM
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Is she mentally ill or is it her fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 10:01 PM
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You can't really make a value judgment about the culpability of her actions while also agreeing that she was psychotic
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 09:57 PM
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clearly it is a debatable topic, as evidenced by the debate it has generated
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 09:56 PM
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So "that's the only way they can get it" isn't accurate then, if they can't get it that way either
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:53 AM
10

What power and authority do you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 07:27 PM
10

Let's see a pic of those guns, OP
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 07:24 PM
3

That's not a good argument. If those "sexual things" that I can do without fearing pregnancy (blow jobs) don't have a chance of getting me off, why would I do them for a stranger? I enjoy missionary more than performing oral sex on a random. At least there's a chance of some kind of pleasure that way. There's no point of sucking a strangers dick (which is still risky in other ways) when you'll get nothing out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:52 AM
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There is absolutely NO incentive for me to suck the dick of a man I'm not in a relationship with. Why would a woman want to suck a random guys dick and get nothing in return? I'd rather go to the dentist, at least I get something out of that uncomfortable feeling
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:50 AM
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Reported
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:42 AM
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What point? That neither way (upfront or manipulative) is going to work for you if women don't want to have sex with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:27 AM
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Agreed with what? I didn't say or imply any of that. Seems like you should be the one separated from the rest of society, honestly. Chill out You want to make people break rocks because they don't want to have sex with you? Do you think you're a good person? Because that is cartoonishly evil
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:26 AM
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The people involved? The people involved get to decide the rules
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:53 PM
1

What sort of physical affection do you think would be natural between platonic friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:52 PM
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He controls her because she's talking shit about him post break up? That's a huge stretch
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:24 PM
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You still seem like you're threatening women who don't want to have crazy sex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:22 PM
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Who is being left out?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:20 PM
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"Do risky, sexy shit for me! You'll probably be fine!"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:15 PM
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I don't know why you'd expect them to want to have sex with men if it doesn't result in orgasm for her, no matter what the reason behind the failure is
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:15 PM
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Many do not, no. I don't fantasize about having sex with random men I don't know, no matter how attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:01 PM
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Why are you assuming she enjoyed it? That's a hell of an assumption when it's casual sex with a strange man
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 05:44 PM
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Then you already know you're being manipulative, and you have the answer to the OPs question.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 05:37 PM
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Sure. Why shouldn't dating be treated like everything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:08 PM
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It just means you're not a gentleman. Gentlemen don't change their behavior when they don't get what they want out of the people they are being chivalrous to
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:29 PM
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Right? Women are not going to be more impressed by a fancier restaurant if they have to split the bill. Go somewhere more low key and at least offer to pay. It's not impressive to go to a nice place and then dither about the bill
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:24 PM
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"Such a financial hit"- you're talking about dinner? You might not be financially secure enough to date if 200$ is such a "financial hit"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:22 PM
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Love it when people say "by definition" and then use a word completely incorrectly
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:13 PM
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Right. You two would both rather be alone than with each other. No problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:12 PM
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You said no splitting? That would suggest the man doesn't pay for himself, either
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:05 PM
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He said the man also doesn't provide for the children
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:03 PM
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It still says that!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:02 PM
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We'll pass, thanks though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 04:07 PM
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But you did recommend that women "should" consider dating a young guy like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:40 PM
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Right of course. Because everything is about YOU and all of your feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:07 PM
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Anyone who hears your genius "Schroedinger's Whore argument" (Jesus Christ, imagine saying that about your wife or the mother of your child) is not going to sleep with you or marry you anyway, so you probably don't need to waste time worrying about it or arguing about it online. Better for you just to not have kids, honestly. No women would want to have your children if they knew the way you speak online
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:09 PM
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You haven't proven anything you've said, and so *your* comments are a waste of time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:39 PM
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Men choose to build houses or become policemen, knucklehead.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:28 PM
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Because if you're not hot, you need to attract women with your personality. Your not an abuser, but there still might be something about your personality that is unattractive. Or, you could be right, and you're so physically unattractive that women never get to the stage of judging your personality
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:11 PM
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They're likely never going to find someone like that. Most women aren't "ravenously" desirous like that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:31 PM
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You're not referencing facts, sport. You've cited no sources backing up the claims you're making, you've not proven or established anything, you're just ranting. Which is fine. But you sound like a moron. Don't call people "retarded", it makes you sound like a spazzy 12 year old, and you really don't need any help in that department.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:25 PM
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No, it's not possible
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:11 PM
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How are they mentally fucked?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:06 PM
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You're seriously fucked, dude. I hope you're just being edgy for shock value, because you seem like a legitimate sociopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:22 PM
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We split everything 50/50, I'm not financially benefiting. If I spend more money than him, I have less money in my personal savings, but I still pay 50 percent of all the bills. We don't have children, and work the same hours. My husband benefits from two incomes as well. If my husband stopped working for a valid reason (health concern, injury, etc) of course I would stay with him. Don't ask questions and then answer them for me, that's not how you make a persuasive argument. You're just wrong. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:19 PM
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I bring in more money than my husband- so do I not owe him sex, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:07 PM
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Why should a woman care about men's "need" to orgasm when he doesn't care about her orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 01:21 PM
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A sizable amount of women can't orgasm through penetrative sex no matter what position is used
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 01:18 PM
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You are incorrect, and a little dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:24 PM
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It's not asexual because I am sexually attracted to some men, just not the ones that are bad people that I don't like
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:23 PM
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I meant that women would tell a man that he made them orgasm with vaginal penetration if it were true
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:22 PM
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You're the one comparing yourself to her exes though....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:50 PM
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How's she going to know she doesn't like it before she tries it once?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:50 PM
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Literally NO women should be with a man that says "do this sex act you don't like or get dumped!" Trash taking itself out, in your case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:47 PM
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Nah, not all woman. I wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:45 PM
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Right. And why would any husband want their wife to engage in an act that they knew she hated?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:24 PM
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So don't get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:23 PM
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I think most women would have no problem saying that to someone who did consistently make them orgasm with PIV- why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:22 PM
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I'm not going to be attracted to a man I don't like as a person
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:37 PM
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That may be the autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:31 PM
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Ew what is scared lust?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:25 PM
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90 is a lot different than 60
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:17 PM
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You really, really don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:59 PM
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I wouldn't be able to enjoy someone going down on me if I knew they thought of it as a chore
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:51 PM
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I do have a stable well paying job. Wanting a man who also has that would not make me "unreasonable" or "greedy." Why would I even consider dating a man who doesn't have these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:34 PM
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Why bother asking if you are going to ignore the actual replies you get and claim you know what strange women online would "absolutely feel." You' don't know what these women feel and think "simple as."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:30 PM
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"Why is the male sexual desire wrong?!" And then you immediately answer your own question with: "Why should I treat her well when other men got to bang her while treating her poorly?!"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:55 PM
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If there's a sex act I don't like, I'm not going to like it with anyone, no matter how attractive they are. It's really only guys who would enthusiastically do gross things (like drinking bathwater) if someone is hot enough. Women in general aren't wired like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:49 PM
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Her comment that unattractive people are unattractive? This is a surprise to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:28 PM
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If you want to "end the debate", just stop answering, bud. I do understand what you mean, I disagree that you conveyed it unambiguously, and I still disagree with your broader point. Have a good one. 👍 Edit: Lame to respond and then block to get the last word, but enjoy it, if it's that important to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:27 PM
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I can only speak for my (pretty wide, mid-western) circle, I'm not in a particularly HCOL area or anything. Under 100k, in your mid 30s, in the current economic climate, is not "use your money to attract a hot, younger woman" level. It's just not. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:23 PM
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Ok. If "someone" can't make an argument using words that convey what they mean, they are not good communicators.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:39 AM
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I don't know. It's a low salary for someone in their 30s, and is just not considered impressive in my circle. I'm sure it also depends on where you live.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:34 AM
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Because you said no one is telling women to date someone they find *completely* unattractive", which to me implies some level of unattractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:10 PM
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No, I meant making 75k *is* broke. He can probably find a woman that makes the same, sure. But he's not attracting more attractive women *because* of that low salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:07 PM
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*You* are making it transactional. You said you won't love her if she doesn't have your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:05 PM
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Back at ya, champ.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:41 PM
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That is exactly what is being discussed- maybe work on your English a little before giving advice to others about how to best engage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:07 PM
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What a prick you are. Sure- you said it here, where you said the other option is for woman to, "both lower their standards and actually become attracted to those men" Learn to read what you wrote before you make prissy, snotty comments about the reading comprehension of others...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:04 PM
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You didn't say the middle or slightly above though, you said the middle or slightly below. The middle is baseline. Below the middle is never the baseline. Who are you to say what a woman "thinks she deserves" is wrong because she's not in her "realistic lane?" It makes sense she's not attracted to unattractive men. If she can't get what she wants, she'll stay single. It's nothing to do with you or what you believe her standards should be. The "realistic lane" for an average looking man in his 40…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:00 PM
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I'm not saying peak attraction is necessary, but the middle ground is not "this man is mildly unattractive to me." That's well below middle ground
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:55 PM
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Men are whining that women don't want to be in relationships with average or below average men. They are whining that women don't legitimately sexually desire these men and would rather be single than settle for a man they don't sexually desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:52 PM
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Only children are loved anywhere close to unconditionally. Unconditional love is not something adults get (except, sometimes, from their mothers).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:30 PM
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Ok. I was answering you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:28 PM
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Would society be able to influence you to be attracted to old, fat women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:27 PM
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I don't think it's at all reasonable to expect women to lower their standards and genuinely want to sleep with someone they naturally find unattractive. That's silly, and you're doing what some other commenters on this thread are claiming "never happens." You're not happy with women who are not attracted to below average men staying single, you want to re-engineer society so they actually want to fuck these average and below average men. It's entitled, and I don't think it's going to happen. Mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:26 PM
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Men do claim otherwise, even in this thread, or they wouldn't be whining about women not being attracted to their "looks match"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:23 PM
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Slightly below the middle *is* sort of settling, that's by definition below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:22 PM
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You say "they are not saying go date someone completely unattractive", but why the "completely" qualifier? Does that mean they *are* saying to go date someone sort of unattractive? Why would anyone want to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:20 PM
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Right. OP- how old are you? Under 35 I hope. Otherwise, a bit hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:11 PM
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I don't see how this is responsive to the comment you are purportedly responding to?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:10 PM
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No. Because a woman not wanting kids does not mean she doesn't love a man, and if that is one of the things he points to in order to prove his point, the whole claim is suspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:08 PM
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Clearly, if you loved him enough, you'd risk death and tearing apart your genitals to give him the children he *needs*, never mind that he'll never have to make a comparable sacrifice to prove his love to you. This guy is ridiculous and a little pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:07 PM
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What she said is in no way proving OP right- why bother responding if you are going to completely ignore what she actually says and respond as if she said something different? Weird way to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:47 PM
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Why should you care about your girlfriend's personality? Is that a real question?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:54 AM
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Right. They freak out at the thought that a woman will like any man "as long as he looks good enough."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:49 AM
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Whats your point? How is that relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:53 PM
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Why are you making this same comment over and over again? It wasn't very insightful the first time
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:53 PM
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So then you are agreeing that men can use women for sex, you just think it's women's fault for not being more discerning to the fact that they're being used
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:51 PM
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Shitty sex is much worse for women than no sex at all
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:49 PM
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But you said the outcome was different. "Getting there" is the outcome
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 12:04 AM
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That's true, but a lot more women than men just "can't get there" sometimes even with a partner who cares about their pleasure. It's definitely not as guaranteed to end in orgasm
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 10:28 PM
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If a man is unwilling, the experience and outcome is going to be different though
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:49 PM
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But less woman orgasm during sex, especially casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 10:38 PM
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What do you mean by "let them"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:02 PM
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It's no more ridiculous than claiming women don't have the capacity to love. Claiming half of the population doesn't have this capacity is absurd either way
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:54 PM
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Whoever doesn't have primary physical custody is on the hook for child support- man or woman. This is because raising kids is very expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:55 PM
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How is child support a misandrist policy? Do you not think you need to support your kids? Can you explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:10 AM
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That's not responsive to her question????
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 12:36 PM
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"you can't just ditch your child" Ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:07 PM
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A news article to support that women aren't being disciplined into having children?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:32 PM
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It's really not
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 09:58 PM
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but that's not going to happen, definitely not when you're alive to (perversely) enjoy it. You didn't explain why you are focusing on women and not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 07:46 PM
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Thats not going to happen in our lifetime- why would I worry about it or allow it to influence my decisions?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 07:45 PM
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Dude, what? I'm not the one you were originally speaking to, and what narrative are you talking about? You're not making much sense. Do you not know what a fetish is? You're not using that word correctly. Why would I want to have sex with someone who doesn't even know what a fetish is?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:36 AM
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Why do you keep repeating her name? If my choice is be forced to "shit out children" l don't want or accept society dying out, I choose society dying out every time. I'm not going to have children against my will to save a society that would put me in that position (If you respond, please don't repeat my username over and over again, it creeps me out)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 11:17 PM
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Well- don't you believe we need to raise the birth rates? Why do you think that we do need more people?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 11:10 PM
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"I wasn't asking"? How exactly are you going to force women to have children? And is that really a society you'd want to live in? If we reach that point, we aren't worth saving. I don't eat if I don't have a kid? What the hell does that mean? And why would I care about the future of a country that threatens me that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:59 PM
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How are you planning on "disciplining" women into having children? And why just women and not men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:56 PM
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Im not worried- we'll all be dead by then. You won't actually get to witness what you're so excited by imagining and threatening women with
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:51 PM
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Weird for a forced birther to accuse someone else of having a Handmaids Tale fetish. Why are you acting like it's not an apt comparison? People on this thread are advocating forcing women to have babies against their will - that's pretty much exactly The Handmaids Tale. You realize it's not just a novel with an outrageous premise? Margaret Atwood was making a point about society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:50 PM
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Why would it not be a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 01:50 PM
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Good luck to most men then... that dating pool is going to be more like a puddle
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 07:14 PM
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Purple pill and wishful thinking have warped your brain, bro. Men over 30 are not more likely to take better care of themselves, and are definitely more likely to be overweight or obese with the health problems that come with this. More of them are losing their hair. As they approach 40, you get ED and degrading sperm. Loss of muscle mass due to declining testosterone. Wrinkles and under eye bags, especially the men who don't wear sunscreen or moisturize, which is a lot of them. If you have mone…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 12:50 PM
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No. Im speaking of vetting his actual character. You can't just declare that a man's character is something women are not interested in or concerned with, or that determining someone's character is easy to do based on observing them from a distance, even if women were actually watching the men they are interested in secretly for months (hint- they are not). Those statements are absurdly sexist and extremely stupid, respectively, but I shouldn't be surprised based on the sub. You're not going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 12:14 PM
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Ha! An average 30 year old is not more attractive than a man in his 20s to a woman in her 20s. Im sure it's very comforting for you to think that men don't get less attractive with age, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 12:02 PM
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I just don't know why you think a man over 30 is too good for a woman his age (or even younger than him but not young enough!) unless she is exceptional. He doesn't deserve a younger woman by virtue of being a man... he doesn't deserve someone exceptional if he himself is average
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 01:56 AM
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Most women are not going to know if they are compatible with someone before going on dates with them. It's not super easy to "vet" the character of someone you don't know. Men are also motivated to pretend to be something they're not in the pursuit of sex. This whole "if you pick carefully enough, the relationship is guaranteed to work and so you can't go wrong banging someone on the first few dates" is so completely ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 01:26 AM
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Well. I don't know. Maybe if the man is exceptional himself, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 01:03 AM
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Just don't approach first if you don't want to though, right? No one has to give you permission not to approach
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:48 PM
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Being serenaded would cause me to cringe out of my own body. No thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:47 PM
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I think the "what's in it for me" question is more relevant for guys seeking casual sex. Some of these guys will also flatly admit that they don't feel responsible for making a woman orgasm. So. Literally, the question is- why would a woman want casual sex with someone who doesn't care about her pleasure? Why would she risk pregnancy, STDs, being called a whore, etc. to have a sexual encounter that won't even bring her pleasure or satiate her sexual desire? Guys should realize that women aren't …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:05 PM
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A woman being over 30 is a huge red flag? Even for the men over 30?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:02 AM
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Well, if you think that I wouldn't marry a trad wife. Because no matter your feelings on the matter, marital property is half hers
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 12:45 PM
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It's not justifying gender roles to say little boys imitate their fathers. No ones saying there's no differences between the sexes, just that these differences in no way affect their affinity for and competency with domestic chores. Plenty of little girls only want to play outside, it's not like "a boy thing" Children imitating the things adults do are showing a desire to be grown up, not an actual enjoyment of the mundanity of adult responsibilities like cleaning
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:04 PM
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You value your own time, apparently not your wife's. If you're so rich, maybe hire a maid instead of making your wife do the chores that are so boring and beneath you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:13 AM
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My nephew asked for a toy vacuum. Boys in grade school would play "house" with me. Women in general don't really "gravitate" toward cleaning, it's not like a hobby. But children of both genders like to imitate the things they see the adults in their lives doing. A little boy with a father who does his share of the chores will imitate doing chores just like little girls do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:12 AM
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The money and property is half theirs. It's not a "benefit" to keep what's yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:09 AM
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You're not married then?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:08 AM
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Dude, how often are you doing those things? How shitty is your plumbing? Most would hire someone for the third task anyway- most people don't have the tools to rip out concrete at hand
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:04 AM
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Ok. Then it seems equal. Men provide physical labor, women provide the physical labor of gestation and child birth (that keeps society running), and they both contribute to reproduction. How old are you? Weird to say jkjk and "lol" every other word when you are in earnest....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:50 PM
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If you don't expect someone to behave differently- you expect them to act...the same. Seems like you are saying equality is equivalent to sameness. The genders are not the same, but they are equal. Even if they were "unequal" in the way they view sex, I would argue men's view is the inferior one. So I guess if there is inequality because the genders approach sex differently, men need to accept they're inferior in this regard. What policy implications do you see this difference having? If the ans…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:58 PM
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I don't think so. Most women aren't down for casual sex, even with "Chad." They're just not that sexually affected by visual stimuli. (Different case, probably, for actual celebrities). Women don't generally want to jump into bed with someone because he is tall and good looking, despite all the whining to the contrary here. But bottom line is, If women wanted to be having casual sex, they would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:47 PM
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Women need men for physical labor really I don't know what else cough COUGH Jesus, what a dork you are
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:41 PM
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I did! Which one did you personally think was persuasive?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:39 PM
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I was agreeing with you- the question was directed at ViolentShallot
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:36 PM
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I don't think people are saying that men are a net negative- they're saying that a relationship with a man would be a net negative to them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:29 PM
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So you wouldn't object if that sentiment was changed to "a man would bring nothing to a relationship that I actually need." I also don't think all the things you listed are things that a potential partner "naturally brings"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:27 PM
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Nah. As I said, his argument is absurd and does not deserve the dignity of a well thought out response. It's as if someone was claiming women had extra toes, or couldn't see color. Too dumb to take seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:49 PM
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No one's going to dignify his statement (that he pulled out of his ass) that smart women are "incredibly rare" with a well thought out rebuttal. It's an absurd statement- completely unsupported by evidence or data, not well argued or developed, and based on one person's very limited experiences. Directly prove the point you're making, and then maybe someone will bother taking the time to refute it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:24 PM
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Sex is not inherently enjoyable for woman, that's right.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 03:43 PM
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If sex was inherently mutually enjoyable, mutual enjoyment would be an inseparable and permanent characteristic of sex. It's not. Seems like you might not understand what the word means, genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:53 PM
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Well ok then. If you think women are asexual if the mere thought of sex with a random man doesn't get them going, then sure, by your definition, they're asexual. They're not excited or motivated by the prospect of sex with a stranger for the most part. That doesn't meet the definition of asexuality, but if it makes you feel better to think of it that way, no one's going to stop you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:46 PM
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Does not liking casual sex make someone asexual? That's what you really think?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:35 PM
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Evolution may have made men seek out sexual pleasure that way, but not women. That's your main problem. You think women view sex and sexuality the exact same way as men. This couldn't be further from the truth. It's not a "complex" to find sleeping with tons of strangers you don't care about grasping and gross. I'm married, but even if I were single, I would have no desire to "fix" myself to view sex in the same unsentimental, self-serving, sweeping way that you seem to. Your dick is not valuabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:06 PM
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You've answered your own question. Woman don't want or like casual sexual like men do. Bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:57 PM
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According to you guys, she has lost value and the respect of other men...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:55 PM
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For women who are extremely horny, if they don't have access to a trusted partner, a vibrator is a safer bet (all together safer, better chance you'll have an orgasm, better chance you won't get pregnant, better chance you won't get killed) than a random man. Even horny women don't necessarily want or enjoy sex with strangers- they want sex with men they respect and are attracted to. Sex with a random man is often just not that satisfying. Men at least are guaranteed an orgasm. Even if the sex i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:53 PM
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Like men treat some women like sex dolls who are only good for orgasming into, where they treat other girls like relationship material Keep grasping at straws to make it seem like men in any way have the moral high ground in how they express their sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:48 PM
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By different she means one is not so driven to prioritize, seek out, and enjoy sexual pleasure outside of a relationship where there's trust and respect. I think it's more sad how men approach sexual pleasure, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:17 AM
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It's just not inherently mutually enjoyable. You think the middle aged men trying to sleep with twenty year olds think those women would really enjoy sleeping with them? Or men who orgasm and then make no effort to get their partner there- are they under the impression the enjoyment has been mutual?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:53 AM
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Yeah, me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:18 AM
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Not for a woman banging a man she is not attracted to. How lucky and clueless men must be to just confidently assert that sex is inherently enjoyable. But for how often you repeat that sex is equally pleasurable for both parties- I hope you ensure your partner gets an orgasm for each of yours!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:13 AM
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Are you just not taking in what I'm saying? The activity is not mutually enjoyable if the woman doesn't want to have sex with the man but is doing it for ulterior reasons. In cases like what I'm describing-The man is getting sex with the promise of a romantic relationship, the woman is getting access to his resources by sleeping with someone she is not actually attracted to. That sex is not mutually enjoyable is the whole crux of the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:10 AM
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And we are discussing cases where the woman doesn't want to have sex with the man because she is not actually attracted to him, right? She wants his money, remember? The sex is not going to be enjoyable for the woman in that scenario. She's pretending to want something she does not to gain what she really wants, same as men who lead women on for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:05 AM
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Sure it does. Some women pretend to want to sleep with men but they are really interested in their money. Some men pretend to want romantic relationships with women but they really just want sex. Both are being disingenuous. Both are taking advantage of the person they are "courting" to advance their own desires. Neither is worse than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:02 AM
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Huh? No...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:59 PM
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What you just wrote has not advanced your point at all or refuted mine even a little bit. So OK. Agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:57 PM
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Nah, you're a hypocrite. In your view, it OK for men to "court" using false pretenses but not women. You're super one sided and it makes your arguments disingenuous. If a man just wants no strings attached casual sex, he can hire a prostitute. That's the "business decision" I would assume you would recommend, based on your other comments
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:53 PM
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So if a man isn't interested in a potential exclusive romantic relationship when courting a woman, is this also a con job?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:52 PM
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Most women don't really enjoy casual sex with randos though, is the point
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:49 PM
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Why is a man's fun dependent on getting his cock wet?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:49 PM
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I disagree completely. A man pursuing a romantic relationship because he is "primarily interested in having sex" is nowhere close to "wholesome." Hire a prostitute then. A man is not his dick, a woman is not her vagina. That's ridiculous. But, going off of your evolutionary psych reliance, if a man is evolutionarily driven to want sex with many women, women are evolutionarily driven to extract male resources
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:46 PM
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Then men shouldn't pretend to seek a romantic relationship when they only care about sex, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:42 PM
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I meant I would never be in the position of a stay at home mom. The resistance is marital property is split 50-50. I don't want to invite an avenue for selfish men to argue their wives don't deserve half because they weren't good enough mothers
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:29 PM
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Nope, I'd never be in this situation in the first place. If my husband came to me like- "I want you to raise our kids instead of working and saving for retirement. I'll need you to punch a time card and I'll decide how much of our marital property you'll get in the event of a divorce based on that. I don't trust that you'll actually do a good job with your children if I'm not managing you." My response would be "figure out how you're going to do 50 percent of the childcare and domestic chores, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:06 PM
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No, what I meant was, in the original situation where you're the breadwinner and she's the stay at home spouse. In that situation, would she get 100 percent if you cheated? Sorry, I thought I made that clear when I said switching genders doesn't change the analysis. Each owns 50 percent. If the stay at home spouse cheats, the breadwinner gets their 50 percent plus the other 50 percent. If the breadwinner cheats, they each get their half. Why is there no punishment when the breadwinner cheats? Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:57 PM
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Are you a bot? Why would I answer your question when you still haven't answered why you added that she was a cheater?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:50 PM
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It's not for you to disagree. The law says if you are married, you split marital property equally. Your feelings that you "should" own everything solely don't really matter. Probably for the best that you don't get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:17 PM
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You going to address how you just randomly added in that she cheated in there? You're very disingenuous, you're not responding to the points I'm making at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:15 PM
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Well no, it doesn't make me feel better about it, the gender of the breadwinner doesn't matter. Why should you have the right to take what is rightfully hers because you believe she behaved badly? Half of that money and property is hers, legally. Morally. Does she also get to take your half if you behave badly? So then she gets 100 percent if you cheat? If not, it's a double standard. You get to take her half if she cheats, so she should get to take your half if you do. Why is she only one depri…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:09 PM
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The woman has to plan ahead too. What you're proposing would not be a good plan for her. I see how it's to your benefit at the expense of the woman, but it would indeed be dumb of her to agree to your plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 04:00 PM
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Who said she cheated? Also you'd need to ask her to punch a time card far ahead of a divorce or any potential loss of trust
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:59 PM
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The proof? Are you kids alive, healthy, educated? Is your house clean? Comfortable? Is their food in the fridge? On your dinner table? Do your kids go to doctor appointments? Do they have clothes and shoes that fit? Do you want your wife to punch a time card or something? Do you trust and respect her at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:03 PM
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Ha! It is not "fucked up" that a woman wouldn't want to sign a prenup and then stay home without income. It would be fucked up and so stupid for anyone to enter into a situation like that. It would be really fucked up to put someone you loved in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:53 PM
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So if she wants half of what she is already hers she has to stay in the relationship? Even if he cheats? Even if she is deeply unhappy? The man is not her employer. He doesn't pay her a salary for raising their children. When he agreed for her to stay home, he agreed that his salary was her salary. It's not what you own. You both own it. Don't get married or have a stay at home wife if you don't think that's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:50 PM
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It's not "his" home. That's the whole point. She raised their kids and kept their home for 20 years. When they made the decision that she would stay home, he agreed to split the money he accrued during this time 50-50. It doesn't matter the reason she decides to leave, the money and home are already half hers. This comment is a perfect example of the point OPs making about the undesirable and vulnerable nature of being a stay at home mom. Better for women to work and insist men contribute equall…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:46 PM
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You made the decision that you would work and she would stay home w the kids. You agree to split the money you make 50/50 at this point, it's nothing you ever litigate after the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:43 PM
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Do you think people that aren't good looking are outliers?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:16 AM
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Just because you're in a room with eight good looking women, doesn't mean good looking women are "average". But using your example, If you're in your 20s and unable to attract good looking women in their 20s, I guess you're below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 08:26 PM
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Why would he not have to reciprocate until their "elderly years?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 06:50 PM
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Why do you want to disrespect your partner though? It's weird you'd want to treat someone you love like that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 06:15 PM
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What they desire is relevant in the specific conversation we're having, which is about how women in their 20s have an above average amount of romantic options and attention. It doesn't seem like you fully understand what average means. Also, your tag says late 20s?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 05:56 PM
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Well, apparently. If men don't want women their own age, they've created this situation where fit girls in their 20s have greater "smv" or whatever than fit guys their age do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 04:41 PM
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In America? 5'3, 170 pounds, around 39.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 04:30 PM
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They have above average amounts of romantic attention. They have more desirable physical qualities than the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:36 PM
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No. 20 year old women in decent shape are by definition above "average" if men of all ages want them. There are only so many cute, thin women in their 20s available, so every man who wants to date one can't. They have an above average amount of interest so it's not a reasonable expectation to have as a bare minimum, especially for men more than 10 years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:19 PM
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Well if a man is over 40 and his "dating bracket" is a thin and cute women in her 20s, he is still asking for an above average woman. If not, by your logic, a woman could say her "dating bracket" is men over 6 feet with good salaries. Then specific men in that bracket could be considered "average" compared to other rich tall men. Using your reasoning, you can't complain that these women don't simply want someone average. You can't complain about women wanting the top ten percent of men if this i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:15 PM
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It's more likely to happen than a man losing his life protecting his family in hand to hand combat, but posters here use this an an example of a man providing a substantial benefit that should be compensated for with submission or domestic chores
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 08:32 PM
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Do you really and truly think women under 30 don't die giving birth?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 08:25 PM
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I'm confused about how landlords come into play. Did you say you were a landlord? I must have missed that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 03:48 PM
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When she's finished raising children and cleaning up after and cooking for the man? So essentially, for the few short years after the man dies? The problem with your view is that most women woke full time as well. You're saying that the man should get to come home and rests if he makes more money, but how is it fair for a woman to work full time, contribute financially, and then take care of the home and family 24/7? Why do you get to relax after your job but she doesn't? Don't you think she's t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 03:44 PM
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But she doesn't want to be provided for if she has a well paying career that she likes and expects to continue to contribute financially. Most men go their whole lives without having to "protect" their wife, and I don't know anyone who has died for, or even been in a situation that they were at risk of dying for, their spouse. Actually, that's not true. All the married women I know who have kids with their husband risked their lives giving birth. I don't know any husbands who have done the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 03:35 PM
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Yes, I think they probably do. Whether the work they do justifies their salaries is a different question
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 03:28 PM
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When does the wife get to rest?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 03:28 PM
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But are you "bread winning" if you're not getting paid for the work that you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 03:27 PM
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What country do you live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 03:25 PM
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It's not "helping" without household chores if he also lives there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:21 AM
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No one's "hating" on you for not having enough money- but if you're broke, you can't afford a traditional wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:48 PM
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He can expect a home cooked meal every day if he's not expecting her to financially contribute at all. If he wants a couple kids, he better be making 200k minimum. Somehow, I don't think most of the posters here are at that income level..
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:43 PM
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What does choice have to do with it? Unattractive is unattractive, whether it's your fault or not. Some people are born with facial deformities or lazy eyes. That it's not their fault doesn't mean they're not unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:26 AM
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Well. If women as a whole find short men unattractive, their league is going to be unattractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:59 AM
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Seems like you think someone should be alone forever if they have kids with someone who later dies. Using that logic, I don't see a problem with saying introverted men should be alone forever. Of course I don't really think that, but that's how absurd you sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 02:12 PM
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Men pushing 50 who want a woman in her 20s is an easy example of what you asked for
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:03 PM
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Women can control if they have kids with someone who later dies or leaves them? If you think people have that level of control, then it's weird you don't think men can choose to behave in an extroverted way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:00 PM
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I would say I'm attracted to even less than 5 percent of the population if "attracted" means I want to be physical with them based on looks alone. Attraction grows with familiarity, but I'm not viscerally attracted to most strangers. I think a lot of women are the same way, which makes online dating extra difficult for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:35 PM
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Nah. A relationship that needs my "submission" to be healthy is not one I'd ever be interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:29 PM
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Do you even like this woman? Because if you love her, you don't want her to be stressed out and exhausted caring for a home and children on top of a 60 hour work week. But I don't know any couples where the woman works 60 hour weeks and doesn't contribute, I doubt there are many in existence
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:26 PM
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So you think it's fair to expect a woman to work full time, care for the children alone, and do all the domestic work because of... feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:23 PM
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Not really. I see self proclaimed "undesirable men" on here lamenting that "all they want" is a cute, thin women in her 20s. They don't seem to realize that this is an above average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:18 PM
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I don't know what you mean by that. It doesn't seem responsive to my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 12:28 PM
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Should have started before you got old then. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 12:24 PM
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What do you mean now or never? What if she doesn't want kids until she's late 20s or early 30s (which would be very normal)? Most women don't want kids at 20- I actually don't know any that do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 12:23 PM
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Men love to cope and pretend they can have the same dating success at 50 as literal celebrities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 12:19 PM
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The point is the men here aren't in the same stratosphere as Leo. It's stupid to use what he can do and extrapolate that this means hot young women will be into the men here when they're pushing 50. What Leonardo DiCaprio can do has literally nothing to do with anyone here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 12:18 PM
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Who cares what you want though?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 12:16 PM
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The misinformation you're talking about that needs correcting or it will affect your life is.... a woman claiming to be beautiful whom you think is mid? How does that affect you in any way? Just admit you're looking for an excuse to tear someone down, you're not doing anything helpful or even moral
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 12:14 PM
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What famous person claims that? I've never seen that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 12:12 PM
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To be clear- you're saying the issue of whether it's OK to sleep with a child that has gotten her period is mushy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:28 PM
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If you're fat, even under some muscle, you shouldn't whine about not getting to date a thin woman. No one's going to have any sympathy for that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:25 PM
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Hm. In America the men are just as fat, and would be just as slutty if they could.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:20 PM
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Hm. In America the men are just as fat, and would be just as slutty if they could.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:19 PM
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Her chef?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:18 PM
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Those aren't basic standards. You're describing an above average women. Most women (and men) aren't young, cute, and fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:17 PM
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A fit woman in her 20s is in the top percent of women, yes. People here speak of cute, fit, women in the prime of their life as average, but they are by definition above average. All men want women like this. Most women aren't in their 20s. Most Americans aren't fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:17 PM
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Yep. Most men on PPD are fat too. Most are Americans, and most Americans are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:14 PM
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Nope. That's why a woman in her 20s would want a man in his 20s. Not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:47 AM
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You rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:46 AM
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You're incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:44 AM
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Too bad. You're too old.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:38 AM
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The sperm of a man in his late 30s is subpar- why would a young woman want subpar sperm?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:37 AM
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Why do you want to date an 18 year old? Would you prefer an 18 year old to a 25 year old? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:35 AM
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No, not the same thing. In your comment you implied the youngest OP would date is 21- why? you know his range included 18-20
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:34 AM
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If you were worried about staring a family, you should have taken it more seriously when you were younger. Don't be a hypocrite
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:32 AM
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They'd rather not have children than have children with a douchey moron. That's the right choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:31 AM
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If you expect a woman to be ready to have kids in her early 20s, you should be willing to do so as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:30 AM
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Nope, never heard anyone use that phrase like that before. Maybe it's regional.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:50 PM
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I mostly agree with your first two paragraphs. But repeating a certain word like "bro" incessantly seems like a valid reason not to enjoy being around someone. I have heard men say the same thing about the overuse of "like" and vocal fry being off-putting (and I agree!) Being annoyed by certain patterns of speech is not unreasonable or something that men are immune to. The third paragraph is where you go off the rails. Women (and men) have found certain, relatively harmless things unattractive a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:46 PM
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You said, "not your best day at the office" so I assumed where I was mattered to you. I told you that you had the option to stop responding to me because you were whining that it was weird that I kept responding to you. I wasn't complaining, but explaining to you that this interaction is completely voluntary. Like im going to exercise my free will and stop responding to you now since this is going no where. You always had that option as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:22 PM
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I'm not denying that. Yes, I responded to the public posts you were making. So? Whats your point? I responded to multiple posts on this thread, you happened to be the author of two of them. I'm not grasping why that's a big deal to you or why you're laser focused on that. You made some of the dumbest comments on this thread, so you got two responses. Congratulations. Don't let it go to your head, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:12 PM
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So stop replying if you don't want to engage with me? You've responded to me "numerous times", that's how a conversation works. I guess you could call responding to a specific comment "isolating" it, but that's kind of a strange characterization. Your comment patting yourself on the back after declaring yourself the winner of your little Reddit spat seemed particularly dumb and angry, and it made me want to respond. It's not any deeper than that. As I said, when you post things publicly, you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:07 PM
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I'm seriously a little confused by how outraged you seem. Cursing doesn't offend me, but why in the world are you so worked up? Is that just how you talk to people? I also don't think you have a leg to stand on in the "cringe" department, so that's pretty rich coming from you. And it doesn't matter. You're posting on a public forum. Message people directly if you don't want third parties to weigh in on the dumb things you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:01 PM
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Why does this post illicit that response? What is she saying that seems unreasonable to you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 06:45 PM
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Dude, seriously, are you ok? What is your problem? Why are you swearing and ranting at everyone. That there are valid conditions and expectations on both sides is certainly what your comment implies. I'm not sure how it's possible that you are confused by that. Who am I? Im a random person commenting on Reddit, just like you. I hadn't noticed you were the author of both posts I commented on, but I don't actually need an invitation to comment on the things you post. So.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 06:43 PM
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You can't just declare yourself the winner of the argument. You haven't adequately debunked anything. You haven't trounced anyone. Do you really think you've presented a "cogent, incontrovertible" argument? Or that you're coming off as some kind of persuasive intellectual? Or that anyone could present an argument on this topic that is "incontrovertible"? The person you're ranting at doesn't sound "incensed," but you do seem mad. Name calling and slinging insults doesn't make you sound smarter, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 06:32 PM
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So then you agree that the love is not unconditional on either side
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 06:27 PM
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Then why did you make that distinction at all? Seems like a meaningless one
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 06:07 PM
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It's not enough to say "I've already explained that" when you do such a poor job of explaining. You're certainly saying things, but this things don't prove your point. also, you can't expect people to read every comment you make even if you're explanations made sense
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 02:04 PM
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So why did you say you mean "physical intimacy and not just sex" if sex is what you actually care about?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 02:02 PM
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Are these men going to carry around their medical records? A vasectomy is pretty easy to lie about
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 12:52 AM
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They don't mandate child support for the women's benefit, it's for the benefit of the child with a deadbeat dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 12:51 AM
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Did you mean to say it is, then? You don't really get to just declare that what's important to you is objectively meaningful and what's important to someone else is shallow. Would you be satisfied with physical intimacy that did not involve sexual gratification?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 12:46 AM
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Maybe you're not good at written communication, that would be the most obvious explanation. Think about that, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 12:38 AM
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No, OP did though
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 12:06 AM
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"Has it ever crept into your mind that all men are as myopic, bitter, and hateful as me? Actually, when you insult me for being a sexist idiot, you're insulting all men." You sound absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 12:03 AM
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Would you say emotional intimacy is also inherent to a romantic relationship? Would you agree that women are justified in conditioning their love on having this emotional need met?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 12:02 AM
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It's just as inappropriate to imply half of the human race is incapable of love. Don't be a hypocrite
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 12:01 AM
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You don't think it's dehumanizing to ask if women are capable of human emotion? That's like, the definition of dehumanization
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 12:00 AM
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Why does he get to condition his love on his needs being met but she doesn't? Financial security is not a less important need than sexual intimacy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 11:58 PM
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So men get to have conditions for love but women don't? That doesn't make sense, you're reaching And what in the world did you research? Oh no. You don't mean asked ChatGPT or the like, do you? Because that might be the saddest thing I've ever heard. "Robot, it's ok to expect unconditional love but condition my love on getting laid, right?"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 11:54 PM
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Looked it up where?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 11:53 PM
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Are these Ukrainian women choosing to send their men to fight? Are they gleeful about it? Are you Ukrainian? In the military? How many men do you think are truly being forced into highly dangerous jobs? What do you do for work? Most men don't have highly dangerous jobs. But they do expect women to endure the pain and personal risk of delivering their children, and they're pretty gleeful about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 11:49 PM
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Well. You've already decided there is no way Jonesdm5 is objectively more attractive than ScarJo. And you're probably right. She's known for being gorgeous. But then why are you saying "that means he sees you as less attractive than Scarlet Johansson" like it should be taken as a personal slight rather than an objective truth? You wouldn't feel loved unless your SO thought you were objectively the most attractive man in the world? Are you very good looking? Seems like an odd and unrealistic stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:10 AM
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What is not true?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 11:20 PM
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What super attractive people do or don't have to do doesn't matter for most of us. You know men treat very attractive women differently. I don't know why you'd expect women not to be the same
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:52 AM
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Why does it matter if guys won't believe she wasn't sleeping around with Chad no matter what she does?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:22 PM
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What Chad got to do is not relevant to most men. Why worry about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:21 PM
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Oh, bud. It's pretty obvious if you're fooling around with a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:11 PM
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Why would a woman take the time to train a man she's not interested in being serious with? Easier to find someone who already knows what they're doing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 08:31 PM
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How does it impact her? Clearly she doesn't have trouble finding experienced women and men to sleep with
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 08:30 PM
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You're against premarital sex in general, then? I don't have a dick, so probably not projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:22 AM
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So in your ideal world, men would also be fired for sleeping around? Do you think women would be as amenable to unprotected sex with men if men as a whole tried to actually outlaw contraception as some kind of weird revenge/attempt to control women? Because I don't. It seems like you want women to have unprotected sex? I assume only within the confines of marriage? If not, Its a bit odd that you are against promiscuity but want women to have unprotected sex outside of marriage instead of abstain…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:02 PM
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I don't understand- do you think promiscuity is a bad thing for society or not? And If men "took away" birth control somehow- are they going to hunt down and destroy all condoms- a lot of women would just stop having sex with anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:16 PM
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Do you really think those two things are comparable? Just because if you do, our views are too misaligned to have any sort of productive discussion. I'll give you a hint on the relevant distinction- the lack of consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:58 PM
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You said the allegations were enough to bring repercussions- are you claiming there haven't been allegations against Trump?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:39 PM
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Firing someone for the number of sexual partners they have had would not fall under "freedom of association." A better term for it would be sexual harassment
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:36 PM
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Does your definition or harlotry include men who sleep around?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:34 PM
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It takes almost as much skill to fuck with a strap on- tell her it's her time to shine
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:17 AM
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Subordinate to what? You want to be the boss of her vagina?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:14 AM
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Does your dick vibrate? A vibrator is not "better," it's not in a competition with your dick, it's a machine and an aid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:09 AM
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Yeah- they are more entitled to pleasure from their vaginas than you are
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 11:58 PM
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It may not be a choice, it's just part of what's necessary for a girl to want to "fuck like a freak." If you don't have that, or the woman doesn't have the default libido, then you're out of luck. That's the point, you can't force people to lust for you by pointing out it's unfair you're not sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:46 PM
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What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:44 PM
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So then why should she invest in your career if you don't want to invest in hers?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:07 PM
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Sure, I guess it's less "transactional" if it's just always your turn. She acts into it because you like it when she does, it's not anything nefarious. But she's still doing it for your benefit, giving head is not physically stimulating in any way. For me it's not particularly psychologically stimulating, especially when men are silent during. But maybe your partners find it psychologically stimulating. They still deserve to be physically stimulated in return. It would be nefarious for you to ig…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:13 PM
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Why would you expect her to be stimulated by an act completely and solely focused on your pleasure? You "care" that women are not stimulated by blowing you alone but need some reciprocal stimulation? You don't want to "take turns"? It's all about you getting blowjobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 03:43 AM
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When men get married, they vow not to cheat. Why should women have to honor their wedding vows if men aren't expected to?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:22 AM
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Saying "so what if he cheats" and implying that women shouldn't leave men for cheating is condoning it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:21 AM
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Shouldn't men take their vows seriously then, and not cheat? Why are you justifying cheating and then acting like you care about the sanctity of marriage vows?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:19 AM
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What behavior am I justifying? When wasn't I honest? What are you talking about? It's not that I don't want to necessarily, it's that I don't get personal pleasure from it. I want to sexually satisfy my husband, but I do it for him, not for me. It doesn't arouse me. It's physically uncomfortable. Even the cleanest penis doesn't taste pleasant. None of that should really be surprising. It's crazy to me that some guys think that receiving a blow job is adequate foreplay for both them and their par…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:18 AM
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What behavior am I justifying? What are you talking about? It's not that I don't want to necessarily, it's that I don't get personal pleasure from it. I want to sexually satisfy my husband, but I do it for him, not for me. It doesn't arouse me. It's crazy to me how some guys think that him receiving a blow job is adequate foreplay for both of them. Most women need something more than performing oral sex to get them going, this is true no matter how attractive a man is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:17 AM
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I don't think there's a guy in the world I find attractive enough that I would get pleasure from performing oral sex. It's always a favor I do for them, not something I enjoy. I think most women who act super into it, it really is just an act.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:29 PM
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Yes, you're correct, edited. Why would a woman who is not a prostitute want to have no strings attached sex without kissing though? Especially if it's all going to be bad? You need someone to love you, or at least know and like you, to be willing to do that. But if you do go somewhere where prostitution is legal, there are operations that are pretty strict about STD testing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:52 PM
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Ah. I felt bad for you until that last line. Even women who have casual sex expect to be kissed, for not strings attached sex without texting you're going to need a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:39 PM
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Ah. I felt bad for you until that last line. Even women who have casual sex expect to be kissed, for not strings attached sex without texting you're going to need a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:38 PM
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Ok Jesus. I said have the last word. But. I specifically acknowledged that you were saying these men were in the minority of men. Explicitly. In the comment I made just before this one. Are you even reading my comments before you respond? You couldn't even make it to the end of the one paragraph I wrote. And you criticize my reading comprehension. Jesus wept.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:26 PM
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Yeah I'm real triggered. 😂 Jesus Christ. What a dork. You're the one who doesn't seem to understand that "the end of the range" is still included in "the range" and 45 is old-ish, whether it's a man or a woman. Most non-famous men in their 40s are not sexy to women in their "prime". Sorry, might hurt to hear. Have the last word if you want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:08 PM
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"Exiting" still means in. If 45 is the last year they're in their prime, you're saying they are still in their prime at 45. I vehemently disagree that a man in his mid 40s is anywhere near his physical prime. You just keep repeating the same thing (as if I just didn't understand) instead of responding to my actual arguments regarding the inconsistency of your reasoning, so we'll end it here. I understand why it's comforting for you to believe a man can be middle aged and still in his prime. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:21 PM
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I personally think it's equally ridiculous to say a man at 45 is in his prime or a woman at 55 is. Neither are. They are both in or approaching middle age. That said, your arguments are so weak and internally inconsistent that I certainly don't take you seriously either. Either a magazine contest is the ultimate arbiter on who is sexy, or it's meaningless. You can't have it both ways. If I were you, I wouldn't count on getting more attractive in your 40s. Best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:31 PM
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But.... you just made up those parameters? I have no reason to accept their soundness. Saying "These parameters I made up support me and not you" is meaningless. I don't know why you'd think one magazine contest naming one person "sexiest alive" is more valid than another. If you're using being voted "sexiest man alive" to support your contention that Henry Cavil is in his prime, that same reasoning applies to Elizabeth Hurley. Obviously. Argue with some integrity at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:08 PM
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What hyperbole? It's the exact same kind of example you used to support your point.... What I will do with this "information" is completely disregard it, because it's nonsense that you've pulled out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:49 PM
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In 2024- Elizabeth Hurley was named one of Maxims hottest women at 59. Does this mean woman are in their prime up to 59? Or do you think some incredibly attractive, wealthy and privileged people are just able to age extremely gracefully?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:46 PM
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45 😂 Ok buddy, keep telling yourself that, it must be very comforting
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:57 PM
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So as long as women aren't overworked to the extent that they no longer have time for basic hygiene/necessary nutrients they shouldn't complain? You're too generous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:13 PM
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Nursing is physically exhausting as well
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:10 PM
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There's a lot of very basic evidence out there that two incomes are currently needed to meet a basic standard of living
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:03 PM
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You can always stay home with them if it's so important....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:57 PM
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I truly can't imagine wanting to be with someone so badly that I would go along with something like needing to clean his apartment after the first date. If I got there and he expressed this expectation, I would leave with no regrets. Sounds like men need some self respect
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:49 PM
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A pedestrians has treated your poorly for being sad during an apportionment?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:42 PM
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What social messaging do you think could get men out of the workplace? Is the answer no amount of social messaging would be sufficient to make me leave my job for a position of complete dependence? That's exactly how most woman would respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:41 PM
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Fair enough- I may have let my knowledge of the commonly expressed sentiments on this sub affect how I read your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:54 PM
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That's one crazy woman. Plus, no she didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:28 PM
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Sure, Donald Trump is drowning in women 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:46 AM
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Looking good man, good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 06:15 PM
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Yikes- does that mean you're pushing 40? 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:27 PM
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I agree that women should contribute financially, you're right that there's no need for a man to be the only provider in this day and age. But I think it's ridiculous to blame women entering the workforce for wages stalling. You've presented it as though they selfishly took jobs that men were entitled to, instead of the truth, which was that men were keeping them from the jobs unfairly, and the situation finally was corrected. Wouldn't you want to be financially independent in their place? Would…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:24 PM
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Did you pay attention to fat girls when you were fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:13 PM
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Ha right. Stay at home moms have all day to pursue their hobbies, and housewives in the 50s slept in as late as they wanted. 🙄 Plus, what professional woman needs to ask to use the bathroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:00 AM
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I don't think I've ever heard someone say something as silly as "I'm essentially 'flawless' in bed." Good grief.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 11:12 PM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:59 PM
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The question is poorly phrased. I bet if you asked an average person if a woman has a duty to provide for their family, they'd say yes as well. Both parents have the duty to provide for the family they create- this doesn't mean they are obligated to create a family
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:28 PM
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But...do you think you're the best in most areas? What could possibly be so special about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:17 PM
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By "the admired one" you mean she isn't also admired by you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:15 PM
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So you would expect her to do something that really upsets her as long as it doesn't actually "traumatize" her?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:13 PM
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That's not what she said?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:10 PM
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Who would want to be with someone who would rather have casual sex than be in a relationship? that's objectively disrespectful to your partner- you're admitting that you don't enjoy spending time with her/ want to be together
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:21 PM
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Why would voting conservative change anything she said? What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:56 PM
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Why doesn't your baggage make it "over" for you as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 11:34 PM
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It's only settling if you yourself are 8/10 or above, surely.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 11:25 PM
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What's the hyperbole meant to demonstrate?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 11:11 PM
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Unfortunately for you, you don't have a choice when it comes to paying taxes....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:32 PM
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"You're only good enough that I want to share every aspect of my life with you forever" The horror
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:34 PM
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What do you mean? He might "qualify" for hookups, but she wants to be in a relationship with him, and not simply hook up, and apparently he wants the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:30 PM
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Children over the age of about 12 should be starting to make their own deductions about the world based on personal observations. Most preteens and teenagers don't implicitly trust the things adults say.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 10:28 PM
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Second one works for me? First one you need a membership I guess, my bad on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:47 PM
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Nope. https://www.abajournal.com/web/article/stressed-and-depressed Nice to hear you don't think I can be a lawyer solely based on the job I have though!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:43 PM
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You're not addressing the point that the woman is relying on the man's boss, and not the man who loves her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:37 PM
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You would rather submit to a wife than a boss if the wife loved you and wanted to take care of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:35 PM
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It's not an expectation to the norm. About 20 percent of attorneys struggle with problem drinking, almost 2/3 have debt that negatively impacts their life, and more than 28 percent suffer from depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:30 PM
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What if it's the additional information she doesn't like and not your face?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:25 PM
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I'm a lawyer. I know several lawyers who are kind of losers. Sure they passed the bar, but there are plenty who don't have their life under control (substance abuse, family stuff, debt) and many who are not particularly hard working
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:17 PM
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You think you're handsome enough that a woman will be "swayed" just by looking at your face with no additional information about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:14 PM
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100 percent! People here are like, "women won't tell you to lose weight because they don't want to be rude," but why would you need to be told that you would be more attractive if you're not overweight? Do the men here really want women to give them such obvious "advice"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 05:19 PM
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Ha! You just pulled that first sentence out of your ass, can you defend it at all? What proof do you have of this "more grounded reality"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:29 AM
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Back at ya
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:25 AM
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Whats your point since they have that same control over men? Why are men ok with ceding that control to a boss but not a wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:20 AM
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Im not the one who brought up "taking revenge on society" by hurting people, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 05:58 PM
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ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 05:47 PM
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You obviously don't have the capacity to accept reality if learning of that reality makes you want to murder people to take revenge on society...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:39 PM
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You think a man is justified in murdering because he wasn't able to independently grasp the basic fact that attractive people attract people? Something that all little girls are seemingly able to figure out by the time they reach grade school?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:38 PM
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It's crazy to me that anyone would think that simply being kind to all women would result in all women being willing to date him. I was told as a little girl that I would find a good husband if I was kind, intelligent, loyal. No one ever mentioned specifically the importance of being attractive, but I figured it out quickly enough. Why do so many men seem unable to extrapolate from life experiences without being specifically told that being attractive is important if you want people to be attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:25 PM
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It's crazy to me that anyone would think that simply being kind to all women would result in all women being willing to date him. I was told as a little girl that I would find a good husband if I was kind, intelligent, loyal. No one ever mentioned specifically the importance of being attractive, but I figured it out quickly enough. Why do so many men seem unable to extrapolate from life experiences without being specifically told?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:23 PM
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Frankly, it doesn't matter if he's fine with it. What's done is done.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:45 AM
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Women who can't get pregnant definitely get told to shut up and move on. Or "just adopt." Men on here are especially mean about it, especially if the woman in question is over 25. I don't feel vitriolic. But the answer to the question "so I just miss out?" is obviously yes. Of course. What would the other option be? If a woman was unable to get pregnant, didn't have money for surrogacy, and was not able to adopt for whatever reason, and she asked, "so I just miss out on having kids?" my answer w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:38 AM
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Correct. Women don't really like casual sex. That's what I said....
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 10:41 PM
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If they're not desirable enough to attract a woman, they are not desirable to that woman, it's an all or nothing type of thing. So it doesn't matter if the acquaintance is "safer," (this can't be guaranteed anyway, lots of sexual assault happens where the victim knows the perp) because there is no motive for a woman to have sex, casual or otherwise, with a man she doesn't find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 10:37 PM
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No, it's easier to just not engage in casual sex. For the most part, that's what women do. The advice given to men about being kind is mostly about finding a long term partner. And I think you know this. Women aren't going to engage in casual sex just because it's "safer" if the attractions not there, what would be the point? Better to just give the whole thing a miss
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 03:12 AM
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Say what? That most women don't want casual sex with average randoms? That people who feel they missed out on experiences in their youth can't go back? Which do you disagree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 03:05 AM
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Not have casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 02:03 AM
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They say that about getting a relationship. I truly doubt anyone has told you "being a good person" would get you casual sex on the regular
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 02:02 AM
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There's no advice anyone can give that will help average men in their 30s have a bunch of casual sex. There's no advice that will allow this guy to go back in time and frequent house parties. Sometimes there's no advice to be given.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 01:58 AM
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I guess so. What do you expect women to do about it? Sometimes people miss out on things. And it's not like "everyone else" has engaged in casual sex and you're the only one who missed out
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 01:57 AM
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Wow. What a sad strange way to view relationships. Why would anyone hope you find a relationship where you cause your partner to feel dread? Why would anyone sympathize with you because you want to illicit that emotion in a partner and are unable to?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 12:09 AM
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No, they don't make you a bad person, but they're not at all desirable. I don't want meek friends, lovers, business partners, children, etc. It might make you a bad person to seek out a week woman though. "Meek" means "easily imposed on." If a man is specifically looking for a woman that is "easily imposed on," I have to wonder why.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:58 PM
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"Meek" and "submissive" are not positive traits, definitely not traits I'd want in a daughter
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 07:12 PM
1

What I said applies to big law as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:26 PM
1

Why do you think you'll be richer than this Indian man with generational wealth as a lawyer? I'm a lawyer too, but you're unlikely to make more than around 200k for at least a good little while. Some never break that ceiling.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 02:40 PM
1

So then the woman gets the short end of the stick?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 02:33 PM
1

What do you mean by leverage and how is it a desirable thing to have in a mutually loving and respectful relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 02:31 PM
1

You're talking about 1950s America when you say third world shit hole?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 02:09 PM
4

If such an attitude were actually innate, every women would have it. That obviously isn't true now and it wasn't in the past either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 01:57 PM
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Yep. They actually say they want a "first mate" to support them on their journey. Why would any woman sign up to be a supporting character in her own life?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:37 PM
2

Dude why are you so focused on this poster? Shits weird
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:33 PM
4

Surely you don't mean the men who comment here? Because that has.... not been my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 02:21 PM
3

Well, "I don't believe you" or "you're lying" is also the standard male response here. Almost like most of these conversations are completely useless
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 02:13 PM
5

One of the most ridiculous things I've read on here is you calling women your own age "older" and saying dating them would be like dating your mothers friends. So absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 11:30 AM
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I don't believe that it's possible to be "too competent for my own good", I reject the premise. As an aside, I have a husband who likes that I have a well paying job that I'm good at, the more money we bring in as a couple the better, so you don't speak for all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 02:11 PM
2

Post the data you're relying on then, your little lists without citations aren't going to convince anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 02:35 AM
2

Im not going to sacrifice being empowered so I will find a less competent man more attractive. How on earth is that a good deal for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 02:34 AM
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No, she said that she would be more flattered by a woman's desire, not that she desired women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:42 PM
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Well, I'm not sure what point you are trying to prove. 1) most couples don't divide the chores by "inside" and "outside." I know more women that work in the yard than men. 2) mowing the lawn is done like twice a month? Laundry can be every day when you have kids. 3) laundry is not just putting clothes in a machine. Do you mean it's like sex because it's another thing your wife suffers through for your benefit? Because it's quick? Because you can't do it for some reason? I don't get the compariso…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:36 PM
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Im asking you specifically, what do you get out of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:52 PM
6

She just said she did bro- why respond without reading her comment? Why are you acting like mowing the lawn is akin to going into battle? Are you very frail? 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:49 PM
9

Huh. What does it do for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:34 PM
1

Hmhm. He should talk about his need for a paternity test before he marries her or gets her pregnant. It's the only honorable way to go about it. If you think speaking to her about it would make her not want to tear apart her body to have your child.... well than you're being scummy and dishonest by waiting to tell her until it's too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:29 PM
2

Your argument just...doesn't make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:59 PM
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You're an asshole if you don't share this expectation with her before you marry her/get her pregnant then, assuming the pregnancy is planned. She gets to choose if she wants to tear her genitals apart to birth a child for someone who, at bottom, does not trust her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:52 PM
3

So basically, your peace of mind > her peace of mind. You sound like you'd make a lovely and supportive husband and father.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:48 PM
2

I make more than my husband, am attracted to him (in part) because I like the way he looks, and wouldn't be attracted to him if he were fat 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 01:48 PM
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Ridiculous. If you think men aren't responsible for providing for their (even unplanned) children you're an idiot with an opinion no one should take seriously and should probably get fixed asap.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:37 PM
1

They're partly to blame
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 02:32 PM
2

So you think dads shouldn't have to pay child support if they take their kids 2/7 of the time? Doesn't seem fair to me...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:26 AM
2

Men here are just as fat...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:14 AM
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The onus is on both of them to communicate, surely?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:08 AM
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Are you decent looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:59 AM
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But men paying child support for their children is? There would be less women on welfare if there were not so many dead beat dads
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:56 AM
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A child is not suddenly not a father's responsibility because the mother divorces the father, it doesn't matter who initiates the separation.... what an odd way of looking at being a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:36 AM
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Paying child support for the children you create is not a punishment. It's absurd to think men shouldn't have to provide for their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:31 AM
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Hm. She's be even less likely to leave the relationship if you chained her to the bed.....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:48 PM
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So women with good, white collar jobs are masculine to you? Buddy, that's just being sexist
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:47 PM
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You have a normal relationship with your mother, but you think she regrets being a mother? Do you think she loves you? Do you love her? Do you trust her?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:00 PM
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What hard manual job do you do? Were you a soldier?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:54 PM
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Dude come on. Yes you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 11:24 PM
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This poster seems genuinely unhinged. Young women sometimes need money to pay for higher education. They likely don't intend to work at a coffee shop for the rest of their lives.
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/25 04:59 PM
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There's probably less than 50 men in the world who could give women "all they desire." If you're one of these men, sure, demand whatever you want. Also, absolutely laughable that you would assert on this sub that men "don't give a fuck" when they're made fun of for how they look. Have you informed the men who post here on the daily crying about how they're devastated by small penis or short jokes?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:22 PM
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How can you say that negative comments about vagina size are relatively rare and then follow it up with a statement that older ladies vaginas are stretched out? Headass
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:08 PM
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Well, ok. But then don't pretend there's "no harm" when you hurt her and took pleasure in doing so. To say "no harm" in that case is inane. The harm doesn't cease to exist simply because you don't care about the feelings of the person affected. I'm not sure why you would even engage with someone you're contemptuous of, it makes it more obvious your intentions are not neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:29 PM
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No harm no foul doesn't apply when you hurt someone's feelings. That's the harm. You don't get to pretend you didn't want to hurt her feelings when you describe the satisfaction you got from putting an "entitled brat" in her place. Your words are dripping with contempt, no need to pretend you said it neutrally when it's obvious that's not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:18 PM
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You're not really worried about attractive women being eradicated from media? I mean, come on, get a grip. That can't be a real fear you have. You're having such a big reaction to this character because most of the other women you see on American scripted TV are beautiful. UK shows employ more average looking people, not just men but women as well. It's more realistic, not some campaign against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:07 PM
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Do you really not see the difference between "try to make the experience pleasurable" and "do anything and everything your partner wants"? One is a reasonable expectation of a casual hook up. One is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:00 AM
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Standard BJ then PIV sounds like the woman is putting in a lot of effort, and certainly more than the man. Shes getting oral in return, right? If not, she's already going above and beyond. Why would she have to do "everything" some random guy wants to do? How silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:50 PM
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Well maybe, but then you still haven't presented any cogent argument that suggests the woman doesn't care about his pleasure, just that it's possible she doesn't. In the absence of evidence she's star fishing or something, it seems like you just pulled that out of your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 09:00 PM
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Sure, if these plenty of men were handsome too then their standards weren't too high at the time. But a lot of the men who want young and thin women are not young and thin anymore, which is part of the point
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:08 PM
2

Damn, all those women over 25 not putting enough effort into staying young!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:04 PM
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Even if the man doesn't find the woman particularly attractive, why would he have sex with her if he wasn't getting pleasure out of it? He is obviously enjoying the sex enough to pursue it, and apparently orgasm from it. If it wasn't pleasurable he would just... not message these girls? They're giving him more pleasure by sleeping with him than not, so how do you infer they don't care about his pleasure?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:02 PM
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Oh-ho a part time job! Watch out ladies
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:50 PM
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I see the opposite- men are delusional about what a "6/10" actually is. They want a fit, healthy, fertile women in her early to mid 20s with a cute face and a pleasent personality, but then call this person average and think she should be with an average man. This doesn't make sense. If a thin, cute, young woman is a 6, what is a 7,8,9,10? If you're rating actresses and models, people who literally make money off of being attractive, as only 8s, then your scale is off. Sydney Sweeney is not a 7.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 05:41 PM
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Right - a fit, healthy, woman in her early 20s with a cute face is not just a 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 09:37 PM
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Well then, it's just mens emotions that make them so paranoid. They should learn to control those emotions if it's so easy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 04:10 PM
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It's interesting that you expect women to be so much more in control of their emotions than men. You can easily understand a mans baseless, paranoid desire for a paternity test (assuming the pregnancy was planned, he's in a monogamous relationship, and she has given him no reason to think he is cheating- the worry is irrational), but you think a woman can just choose not to be offended and hurt when her husband implicitly accuses her of being a terrible person. Very odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:43 PM
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You don't think it makes sense that a woman expects her husband to trust her more than she trusts a random stranger or....?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:18 AM
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How is it a win-win? He gets the paternity test (win) but he hurts the person who just had his baby (lose) and his wife is mad at/leaves him (lose). What is the other win?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:14 AM
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How often are you impregnating random women? Maybe.... stop doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:43 PM
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So what are you picturing? That the abortion would occur and afterwards a judge would determine if it was justified and punish the mother/doctors if not?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:42 PM
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Well I'm sure that your daughter and the parents of her friends are not going to agree. Do you think it's ok to think about children under 16 sexually? What about your niece by marriage? Or a child you're not related to but are responsible for as a couch or teacher? Where do you draw the line?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 08:16 PM
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You don't think your daughter might find it shameful if she notices you ogling her friends? You want your grown friends thinking about your (hypothetical I hope) own young daughter sexually?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:15 PM
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The point is old men aren't sexually attractive either, so at that point it's two old unattractive people together. That makes sense and seems fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 03:05 AM
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Are you a man?
/r/RedPillWomen11/03/25 02:19 PM
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Are you referring to slapping or spanking as beating? I don't think anything can be "inherently" degrading. The definition depends on how a certain action makes a person feel, so if they don't feel degraded then they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 04:52 PM
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I've never found someone so physically attractive that I couldn't wait to have sex if I decided to....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 04:22 PM
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Do you have very dainty feet? I think they would know the difference if not
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 04:12 PM
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Well, he doesn't beat her in 50 shades, so that's not really relevant. I'm not sure you get to decide what someone else is degraded bu. I think paying strippers to pretend to be into you with a bunch of your dude friends is degrading, but most men don't seem to be degraded by it, so it's not for me to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 04:07 PM
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Maybe, but the reason for the behavior is not going to change women's response to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 04:04 PM
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You're racist?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 02:17 AM
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Why with racism?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:45 PM
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Paranoia is by definition a problem. It signifies persistent irrational/unfounded beliefs. It's never mentally healthy or desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:41 PM
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Now that argument I don't buy. If men cared the most about women enjoying the experience, they would be happy to wait and create a meaningful relationship before having sex, and wouldn't complain about having to do more work than Chad or not getting anal. The men here largely don't want to do the work to create a gratifying sexual experience regardless of initial attraction, they just want women to be overcome with lust without them having to put in any effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 07:42 PM
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You can see it in the way they talk about "levels." They call themselves an "average man" and want an "average woman," but by average man they mean a 5'8 40-something with a dad bod and 60k/annum; and by average woman they mean a thin, fertile, cute, chaste woman in her 20s who wants to take care of him. Those people aren't at all on the same level. Why would a man in that situation expect a woman in her prime?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 05:10 PM
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I'm not sure about that. There's a lot of posters here who are genuinely aggrieved at the thought that their future partners won't be genuinely and exceedingly physically attracted to them or that they might be "husband material" instead of "hook up material." But I'm willing to accept it's not the majority. It does seem like some men don't actually want women to "lower their standards," they are upset at the idea that women judge them physically at all. They think they should be able to attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 05:08 PM
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Isn't the man then just going to complain about "duty sex" and how he's angry that he's not the best sex/hottest his wife has ever had? Guys on this sub seem to get really bent out of shape about a woman being with a man who doesn't turn her on with his physical appearance but has other good qualities
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 04:48 PM
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Ha how can you have an ideal weight without considering height? 135 looks a lot different on a 5.0 woman and a 5'8 woman. You're ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 04:44 PM
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Why not tell the men whining here to accept that the women they want don't want to date them? Why does it only go one way?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 04:42 PM
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You gonna honestly answer someone who approaches you on the street and asks about your dick size?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 03:44 AM
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Gambling on an unrealistic outcome? So you're saying the man who pay for onlyfans harbor hopes of actually being with the girls making the content they pay for?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 03:42 AM
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What race is excluded by the preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 03:35 AM
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I just think you've misinterpreted the song. I think she's saying if the relationship is just going to be casual, he might as well get her off by going down on her, since that's all the relationship is good for. She later points out that she doesn't come when they actually have sex. That's not at all unusual. But I don't think she's ever saying their relationship is something special or is super sexually fulfilling. But, agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:56 AM
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The lyrics are her saying she wants him to get her off by going down on her. She's also saying she did not come when he "hit it," or penetrated her. Not that you should base your world view on pop lyrics.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 01:11 AM
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I don't think anyone doubts that you'd rather be "Chad," it's just not an option for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:00 PM
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Why is it shocking that women are more turned on by hot people? Are you not?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:59 PM
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You could hire them? To do what?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:58 PM
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But these ordinary men expect the women they're with to find them extraordinary as well, right? You can't expect to be the most desired person she's been with without that expectation
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:56 PM
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If you think she's an adult in her 20s why do you refer to her as a little girl? Just to be disrespectful?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:31 AM
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What's the point of sharing your opinion on a public platform if you don't want the public to respond?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:10 AM
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Honestly, I don't think there's anything you could do. You're an anonymous username who doesn't know anything about me but what I've chosen to share. I don't care enough about your necessarily ill-informed opinion to let it affect my mood (if I did, I wouldn't browse this subreddit). Why are you giving the opinions of strangers you evidentially disdain that power?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:32 PM
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The difference is, what you think about my relationship is a complete non issue for me. I just don't care. Obviously you do care, because you're posting about how people judging your relationships makes you feel bad. You care enough that you experience any criticism as "shaming." I can't relate
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:23 PM
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Ha sorry meant to reply to the man you were responding to!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:04 PM
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I can, and do, do what I wish. I wish to be employed in a high paying white collar career where I support myself, and I am. 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:00 PM
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Why are you implying that the grown woman you're talking to is a "little girl?" How do you know what she's done with her life? What exactly have you accomplished?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:59 PM
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You don't think childbirth is dangerous? Then you are just objectively wrong, it's not a matter of opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:58 PM
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Her opinion is just as relevant as yours is
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:56 PM
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What do you mean by "set up" jobs? Create new jobs? Take them from the women who have them now?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:53 PM
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I believe that it is an inferior sort of attraction though. I don't really care about "shaming" you (the general you) but I'm not going to pretend that I believe you are correct in all your judgments and decisions. I don't support every opinion a woman has either. An attraction based on only physical factors is lust, and it's not surprising that people find this less meaningful than a more spiritual bond based on an emotional connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:51 PM
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What do you think will happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:57 AM
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Why do you think the chances are zero?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 11:54 PM
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You think if women weren't having casual sex then they would want to start a family with you? I don't follow
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 11:22 PM
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You read wrong. The beginning of the decline may be closer to 35-40, but it's definitely not 60. https://www.news-medical.net/health/Male-Age-and-Fertility.aspx https://utswmed.org/medblog/older-fathers-fertility/ Having a kid at 60 is possible, I'm not saying it's not, but it seems like the height of selfishness. Why would I have any feelings about the quality of your sperm lol? I know it's comforting for you to think you have plenty of time, but the facts are on my side nevertheless. Best of l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:40 PM
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Sperm quality starts to decline at 30. Also, are you 40 with no college degree? What makes you think you can even afford to support a young wife and baby? Are you planning on retiring?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 04:16 PM
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So then- since obviously one parent has to work, there's always going to be at least one parent being a mediocre partner or parent, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 03:23 PM
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But how much time are you spending on being a good partner and a good parent? Assuming you're also working, which are you half assing and why should your wife accept mediocrity in either of these categories that you can't spend 8 hours a day on?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:14 PM
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Pretty sure it's also because he's an autistic middle schooler, I don't know why anyone's responding to this low effort bait
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:26 PM
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Well what's your occupation? Are you facially attractive? How tall? You're focusing just on your weight and not giving us any other information- healthy blood work is not really going to get anyone going
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:51 AM
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I mean- of course you're not the best man in the world, what a ridiculous standard to have for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:17 AM
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If it's easy why aren't you doing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 02:41 PM
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You still have the option of using your hands and mouth even if you have a penis
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 02:40 PM
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Foreplay does not lube the anus naturally
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:34 PM
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There's no way that guys 32 BMI
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:53 AM
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It's fair for the women to pay 50 percent of bills and do most of the cooking and cleaning? How the heck do you figure?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 09:30 PM
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Right- so what motivation does she have to move from the average guys in her country to the average guys in the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:59 PM
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Well yes, Harry Potter is for children, but there are books for adults too
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 02:26 PM
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Wild, I've never met anyone with that preference before
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 02:17 PM
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Girl what? You don't want a man who reads? Liking to read doesn't mean you're busy all the time...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 02:04 PM
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I agree I wouldn't want to marry a surgeon, especially a neurosurgeon. Long hours, his career would likely to take precedent if we had children, and I'm not looking to be a stay at home mom
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:13 PM
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Agree. I wouldn't even split a 10$ coffee bill with a friend (I'd just pay) so I would think it was a bit off if he made a point of asking to split it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:12 PM
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My point (obviously) was that someone over 25 is more likely to not live with their own parents, so there would be no hypocrisy in wanting the same from you. If you want a women under 25 while in your 30s or 40s, of course she expects you to be more established and successful than she is (you've had a big head start) and so that's not hypocritical either. If you want to date women under 25 as you approach middle age, they (obviously) are going to expect you to have achieved things they have not.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 02:49 PM
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No weirdo, if you kidnap a woman and tape her mouth closed, you are just removing her capacity to engage in free speech, not her right to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 08:27 PM
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So you've just had a lot of casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 08:20 PM
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What do you think the difference is?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 04:15 PM
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My point was more that the fact that you're just out of high school probably explains why all the girls you know were recently living at home. For example, if you had meet your boyfriend when you were 28 and he was 36, you would probably both have your own homes. Even if most men don't have much choice in the age range they select from, it seems like the men here want someone under 25, even if they're in their 40s or 50s. Young adults under 25 can rarely afford a home- that's just how it is. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:03 PM
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Not everyone is lucky enough to have the choice to live with family
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:45 PM
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You don't know any men dating women who don't live with their parents? How old are you? The problem may be that the men here don't want to date anyone over 25. When you date young adults as a man over 30ish it is not surprising that they expect you to be more established than they are (this is like the main plus that RPers harp on).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:41 PM
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Why would she have a negative opinion about two people of almost the same age dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:38 PM
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Ok. I'm a lawyer- you think I don't talk to other lawyers over drinks as friends? No one I know would tell you this, retainer or no. I had a feeling your experience was peripheral. It's not necessarily surprising that your best friend would have the same biases as you do, a lot of lawyers are kind of dicks, but that doesn't mean your view reflects reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:46 PM
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Im a lawyer, most lawyers certainly will not tell you this lol, what is the extent of your legal experience? Is it one friend had a bad experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:31 PM
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Well, some people think that when they get married they should stop having sex with other people. It makes sense that a woman would be open to a threesome with a more casual relationship and not the person who vowed to love and cherish only her. OP- would you indulge your girlfriend if a MMF threesome was her "dream"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:26 PM
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It's because she tried it and didn't like being degraded? If you love her, why would you want to make her feel that way as a weird power play?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:18 PM
2

I bet most American men would disagree that they "don't need more money" or that they already have enough to support a whole family
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:57 PM
1

Of course- why would you try to initiate touch after she asked you not to touch her?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:15 AM
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Yah- obviously you would discuss it before getting married, divorce wouldn't be on the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:05 AM
1

Well- what would you tell a women who realistically wouldn't be ready for kids until 40? Would it be something along the lines of "tough shit, too late"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 11:33 PM
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Maybe, but that wouldn't be true of the men in this sub who think about it constantly. For you specifically for example, there'd be no reason not to bring it up when the discussion about having kids comes up, pre marriage and definitely pre pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:11 PM
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By natural I meant meritorious- maybe I used the wrong word. Women were excluded automatically from such jobs, so there was no way to determine if they were more qualified than the men doing those jobs. I'll ask you the same question- Do you think men doing 100 % of those jobs is "natural" because that's how it was in the past. Do you think a split of 100-0 in favor of men rather than 50-50 would be closer to a split based on pure merit (assuming that such a determination was possible).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:20 PM
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You think youth is an inherent part of your people?so much of the red pill just started to make sense to me....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:24 PM
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Well, yes and no. A man or a woman in any individual high paying position is not good or bad. What is bad would be restricting half of the population from even going for these jobs, or taking no steps to remedy the unnatural exclusion of women from these jobs (since they were excluded from them for so long not based on merit or ability but due solely to their sex). On a personal level, I would never sacrifice my white collar job that I enjoy and am good at so a man could have the position. That …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:49 PM
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Who does men in high paying roles benefit aside from the men themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:20 PM
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You got a weird focus on sperm. Huh? I mentioned it once as a response to what you said. So do you guys have a weird focus on uteruses since you go on about peak fertility and the wall? Men don't have a biological clock. Demonstrably false. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17082936/ https://weillcornell.org/news/why-men-should-think-about-their-biological-clock-too https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18711662/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:33 PM
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Do you not think financial abuse is a thing? Why should a man have discretionary spending money if he can't afford for his wife to have the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:21 PM
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Sure, those men are part of the 1.5 percent of men that have kids over 50, that doesn't really change or contradict anything that I said. Do you think those two celebrities are representative of the average person?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:14 PM
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Sure, those men are part of the 1.5 percent of men that have kids over 50, that doesn't really change or contradict anything that I said. Do you think those two celebrities are representative of the average person?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:14 PM
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Why do you assume it's a boy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:28 PM
3

Eh not really. In 2022 the percentage of men fathering a child after 50 was less than 1.5 percent. There is a noticeable decline in sperm quality after 40. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2821811#google_vignette https://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(18)30269-3/fulltext
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:19 PM
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Having a kid at 70 would be incredibly selfish, you likely won't live to see them graduate high school, let alone get married. How is that fair to the child?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:15 PM
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So you'd have a new kid at 50+. You know the quality of your sperm declines as you age, a woman may not want that for her first child. Plus, do you really want to be in your 60s with a grade schooler?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:12 PM
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So if you have, for example, being an attorney as a major life goal- are you not working while achieving that goal?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:49 AM
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Says who?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:54 PM
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What the hell? It's not possible for me to "back talk" my husband since he's not an authority figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:35 PM
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You think your partner should do what you tell her to do? Why would any women want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:32 PM
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Do you believe you have "unquestionable and unbreakable ethics"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:31 PM
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Really? 25 year old Jen was nearly perfect looking imo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:46 PM
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Would you hold yourself to the same standard of never telling your partner even a trivial lie? Do you think women often have rankings of their sexual partners on their cell phones?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:14 PM
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But how would you ever find out?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:07 PM
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Are you concerned at all that your partner can just lie about you being the best she's had?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:04 PM
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The definition of "maid" as determined by, I guess, a dictionary?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:15 PM
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You want women to be forced to have your babies? 😬😬😬
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:14 PM
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It's pretty obvious. Treating them like a bang maid is treating them like a subordinate who you also have sex with, not like a respected and equal half of a partnership.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:13 PM
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If she sleeps with you on the first date doesn't that necessarily indicate that she's the kind of person to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:31 PM
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Good fathers will care about the quality of life the mother of their children lives, especially if she still has at least partial custody of his children
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:50 PM
1

So do you not kiss your hook ups?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:35 PM
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No, not guilty doesn't mean innocent. If that were true civil cases wouldn't be able to be held after a criminal trial because it would already have been determined that a party was innocent of a specific crime. Courts don't find people innocent, that's not their function
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:23 PM
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Unless she testified that she knew the accusation was false when she made it, I don't think having her take the stand would prove anything either. Like it often is with rape, it's a he said she said scenario, and the ambiguity will weigh in favor of the defendant because it won't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:15 PM
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How would the accused's testimony demonstrate the mental state of the accuser?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:13 PM
1

What? You can absolutely be accused of false informing for information written in a police report if there is evidence that you knowingly gave false information
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:12 PM
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Important to note- It is absolutely not true that one party consent applies to sexual acts! Obviously it also doesn't apply to things like cameras in bathrooms and fitting rooms, just conversations.... a little common sense boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:11 PM
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You can't compare the two like that. The mens rea for involuntary manslaughter is reckless. The mens rea for false informing is knowingly. It would not be enough for a victim to accidentally identity the wrong person to find them guilty of false informing, they would have to be aware the information they were providing was false. Plus, you would need a whole new trial. Like the accused man, she is innocent of this crime until specifically proven guilty, it's obviously not enough to assume she's …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:53 PM
1

If no one wants to help crippled people walk (this is often just impossible), then no one should be able to walk? That's obviously not what you really think or you wouldn't be able to walk now (because there ARE crippled people who you are unable to help walk).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:36 AM
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What's your point? How is it fair to legally constrain a portion of the population because of the failures of a separate portion of the population? Should walking be illegal because it's not fair to the crippled people who can't walk?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:34 AM
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Why would that be fair? It's not illegal for the bottom 50 percent of men to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:31 AM
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Lol what a moron you are. You said a commenter was unusual because she would respond to anal sex with physical aggression, but you also assumed she had consented to the anal sex? Is that really your argument? It doesn't matter either way, I'm finished engaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:13 PM
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I mean- there's no discussion about communication and consent in the comment thread I responded to, you're welcome to scroll back up and reread if you don't think that's accurate. All the best ✌️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:56 PM
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There was no discussion about communication and consent. In fact, the initial comment was "if you try to stick it in my ass, you'll get a sore ear..." She is clearly not talking about something that has been communicated and consented to in advance, and you still told her that opinion was unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:38 PM
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Im not sure what you mean. Which part of what I said is outlandish to you? When a commenter said that she did not want to be spit on, slapped, or called a whore- you said this was unusual. Correct? Are you walking that back now?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:31 PM
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What? Dude you're the one who responded to another commenter with "that's not typical" when she said she was not into those specific examples (spitting, slapping, anal sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:28 PM
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But why? You have a prostrate, which would make anal sex pleasurable if hit. Women do not have this, so all they would feel is the (extreme) pain of a dick being shoved into a dry hole. If someone was going to enjoy "surprise anal" (another word for this is rape by the way) it would be the one with a pleasure button in their ass
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:25 PM
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do you want a woman to fuck you in the ass dry with a strap on? If not, you must not be much fun either.... (this is EXACTLY what women mean when they talk about porn sickness, almost no one enjoys unprepped anal, much less surprise anal)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:23 PM
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You believe the majority of women want a dude to randomly stick it in their ass dry? Or slap and spit on them without discussing hard limits? If you really think that, I'm worried you might literally be assaulting the women you sleep with
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:21 PM
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Right? Most women do NOT even like, let alone prefer, long bouts of jackhammering with a penis. I'd rather have no sex at all
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:19 PM
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Angry at whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 09:10 PM
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In America in 2022, 33 percent of men and 34 percent of women were obese. Not much of a difference actually
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:54 PM
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They lose with the highest distinction? American men are just as fat
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:09 AM
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Well what about being raped by a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 04:34 PM
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I doubt that's it, she's older and has kids, more likely she just doesn't want more
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:41 AM
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But if they have already hurt someone it's too late for that. You said you didn't want them remembered as animals if they hurt someone
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:46 PM
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What? It's not that anyone "decided" life wasn't fair- who would even have that power?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 01:36 AM
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If they act like violent animals why should they be remembered any differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 01:29 AM
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What do you think about the high level of sexual assault of female soldiers by their male comrades? Watch "the invisible war" if interested. To be fair this was a while ago, but apparently in 2012, a female soldier in Iraq and Afghanistan was more likely to be raped or assaulted by a fellow American soldier than killed by enemy fire. I think part of this is that statistically soldiers, and especially female soldiers, are unlikely to be killed by enemy fire in the first place, but men can't be su…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:15 PM
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So is your name on the children's birth certificates? How are you not legally responsible if that's the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 03:39 PM
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Just because she has the energy to, which is not at all certain, doesn't mean she's going to want to have sex every night
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 02:39 AM
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And so she has to have sex with you? I don't follow your logic
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 09:42 PM
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Why would she have to have sex with you every day just because she doesn't work outside the career? That's just stacking the deck. There are going to be many times a stay at home mom turns down sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 11:29 AM
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The tax on 250k would be like 75k, not 150k
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 11:26 AM
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The OP was the one who used the term bangmaid
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 11:24 AM
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Seems like most of the mess was probably caused by your children? That's not solely your wives responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 07:54 PM
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Average salary for accountants is also 70-80k, none of these are typically considered high earning
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 06:40 PM
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Well if they're fat themselves or not concerned with the woman's sexual pleasure, then even those standards are unrealistic and unreasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 06:22 PM
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Would you also encourage men to get married at 25?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 06:14 PM
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No insurance salesman is making enough money at 35 to attract a 20 year old unless they are also very attractive. No 20 year old with options is impressed by a man over 30 making 75k
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 06:09 PM
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The hypocrisy comes in when you judge someone negatively for engaging in behavior that you would also engage in given the opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:42 PM
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Seems pretty dumb to knock up a one night stand, plenty wrong with that from where I'm standing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:56 PM
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What's your occupation?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:54 PM
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That sex is a physical activity that requires coordination, athleticism, and stamina and that some people are better at it than others? I guess like--- the laws of nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 09:42 PM
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But pimping out women is sexual violence, so we were talking about that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:04 PM
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I don't know. Some of it is chemistry sure, but a lot of it is skill, and some are guaranteed to be inherently better at sex than others no matter how much you practice, just like with other skills. But more importantly- if you believe you can improve at sex (which, yes, obviously you can) why all this worry on this sub about not being a girls best the first time? You are very unlikely to be even not bad the first time you have sex. If you only want a virgin because she doesn't know any better, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:09 PM
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Ha! I can guarantee you I know more about sexual violence and human trafficking then you, but go off buddy. I'm a criminal attorney- are you law enforcement or something? Or do you just have a lot of experience utilizing sex workers? Other than those options I can't really think of a scenario where you know more about this topic than I do. ✌️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:41 PM
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But there's no reason to think that. Do you think if given enough time to practice you would be one of the best dancers of all time? Or one of the fastest swimmers? If you have never done something before, there's no reason to think you will be even good at it, let alone one of the best
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 02:36 PM
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Pimps use drugs, money, and violence to control the women that work for them. That's it. Read a book
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 02:48 AM
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But why would you think you are even somewhat skilled if you have no experience? You are probably more likely to be very unskilled
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 02:43 AM
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Do you think all women become less intelligent from 25 to 35?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 03:06 PM
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So does a man deserve commitment from a quality woman after spending decades banging dummies and teenagers? Or do these man just never want to start a family or have children?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 03:05 PM
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Teenagers generally won't be with a man with no job. They will be with another teenager with no job, because a job is not an expectation at that stage of life
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 03:49 AM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:22 PM
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How hard is it for you to understand that doctors won't take that risk? No one is going to sacrifice their career or even risk going through a year long (or longer) legal process if they can not be sure a politician will not later decide their actions were unjustified
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:56 PM
1

Would you expect your wife to be interested in your opinions and goals?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:43 PM
1

You would prefer to share a life with a man? Do you consider yourself homo romantic?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:43 PM
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How do you say things like this and then turn around and cry that women don't have sympathy for you? No one is going to feel bad for a guy because he can't get a girl who he thinks is "hot enough". If you were hot yourself you would likely find one but you are not owed an attractive girlfriend and you are not deserving of sympathy because the lack of a model in your bed makes you oh so lonely and depressed
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:39 PM
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If you're asking society at large to have this deep wells of empathy for you because the girls you can get are not hot enough for you- I don't know why you would be surprised when society's response is an annoyed eye roll and some ribbing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:36 PM
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Your salary is not why you seem low quality, but if you're in the US, especially in a big city, it's not really anything to brag about either. You're not supporting a family on that salary without serious budgeting
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 07:15 PM
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Lololol. You're talking like you're hot shit and you make 80k. What a dork
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 09:15 PM
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How are you a homeowner then with no job?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 09:13 PM
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She's not claiming to be high quality, you are. Why should we believe you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 09:10 PM
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Do you deserve it? She'd be the one sacrificing for you if she had your children....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 09:10 PM
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If you don't want a woman with a degree and you don't want a woman without a degree who do you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 11:19 PM
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Are you not a flawed human being?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 08:57 PM
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Right, and the obsession with women being aroused by their bodies and only their bodies- it's really a very feminine energy to insist so much on being found visually attractive. Girls aren't going to get off on dick pics or male nudes in most cases, I'm not sure why posters here are upset by that, send your nudes to a gay man if you want that reaction
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 08:56 PM
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Right. And guys obviously have similar standards regarding their partner having their life together. No one wants someone riddled with debt and with a bunch of tumultuous relationships and personal drama
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:15 AM
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What's your definition of manipulation then? It obviously differs from the definition the rest of us are using
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 01:52 PM
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I'm not trying to be mean or funny but when you say that it sounds like there might be something wrong with you emotionally. I can't imagine not loving a child I have raised for a decade even if I hate their mother. I don't want kids either but i love and care about many children who are not related to me- you love them not because they have your genes in them but because they are their own special little unique person that you have bonded with. Do you expect to not have much to do with child re…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:28 AM
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Would a man rather do those things than rely on a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:25 AM
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Doctors aren't critical?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:21 AM
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Lying about sleeping with her friends counts as manipulation
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:59 AM
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You've already been raising the kid, don't you think you'd love them after 10 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:31 PM
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Do you work?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 08:28 PM
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Not necessarily. Wealthy men are not inherently less lovable than men who are not wealthy. Can't she love him for himself even if he happens to be wealthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:27 PM
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24? Did you just graduate? What's your yearly income?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:26 PM
1

24? Did you just graduate? What's your yearly income?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:25 PM
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So a man in that situation is a commodity too right? And so he shouldn't complain about the woman not being truly attracted to him but only his money? Does that include not complaining in online forums?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:23 PM
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Why even ask questions like this if you're going to completely disregard women's answers?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:18 PM
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That guy is not even remotely attractive to me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 03:32 AM
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But how is the guy in this scenario "treating people right"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 02:44 AM
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I could ask the same question to the man who ends his relationship by insisting on the test
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:00 PM
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Talking like that about "average girls" shows your disdain for them. What girl is going to want to be with a man who obviously views her as something interchangeable that he is settling for
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:00 PM
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Well it wouldn't be punching down if the people they were insulting were "above them"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:14 PM
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Older women would be clear enough
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:57 AM
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The quote literally says that most people- which would include most women- don't get that attention. Only the really beautiful, that's not every woman
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:50 AM
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If you tried pegging with a past girlfriend and didn't like it, would it be fair for your new girlfriend to take that preference personally? Would you commit a sexual act that you found painful and embarrassing because your girlfriend wanted to try it with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:26 AM
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There could be two equally attractive guys, if a girl makes one of them wait because he is relationship material and sleeps with one earlier because he is just a hook up, that doesn't mean she is less attracted to the first one. It means she is trying to nourish a long term relationship with the first man because she finds him to be attractive AND relationship material. To think of the decision to have sex as a punishment is very egocentric and strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:18 AM
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Well I can only speak from my own experience with my parents as I don't have children, but my parents always bought each other gifts for Fathers Day and Mothers Day-if anything my mom was more on top of it than my dad was. If you just hate presents thats something else I guess, but gifts are a perfectly acceptable and normal way to show someone you love and appreciate them , there doesn't always have to be some bleak subtext to every social interaction
/r/MGTOW04/03/19 06:49 PM
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Eh-I think its pretty common for a husband to get his wife something for Mother's Day-same goes for the husband on Father's Day. It doesn't mean that the kids presents "aren't good enough", but everyone knows there is a difference between the little things that children make and "actual" gifts.
/r/MGTOW28/02/19 08:47 PM
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This doesn't have to do with this comment specifically, but did the term "hit the wall" come from "Stacy's mom", or was it already a thing when Blink-182 said it?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/02/19 09:43 PM
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I think it's weird that you specified "virgin" 3 times in that short post. Its one thing to want a woman that's younger than you but the virginity obsession reads as creepy tbh
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/02/19 04:12 PM
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Probably, but depends on the context
/r/seduction20/04/18 05:11 AM
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