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Yeah. Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 01:41 AM
2

I agree with your logic. The coffee invite is good. I guess I would consider it more of a pre date, but I would be significantly more likely to say yes to a date date after a coffee date. You are right.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 11:48 PM
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Blowjobs and good conversation go a long way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 01:47 PM
1

The same is absolutely true for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 01:25 PM
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It speaks volumes that the only argument against your point is abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 01:15 PM
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I would have gone for coffee with you. I would also never consider coffee to be a date unless I was in a LTR with the person because it is so laid back.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 12:48 PM
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I would probably say yes to a couple of dates. I don't think I would hook up. No, this has never happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 12:46 PM
2

It was pretty straightforward and written in English. What are you confused by?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 02:36 AM
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I can see that you are not actually interested in evolutionary psychology beyond the pseudoscience you find on Reddit. That's fine. To each their own. But I'm not going to continue this discussion because I can't talk to someone who is doesn't believe in reading. Have a nice day!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 02:53 PM
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From an evolutionary perspective, it is not irrelevant. A man's ability to maintain a relationship is PART of their SMV. TRP separates out SMV from RMV, but this is an illusion. Many men are aware of this and want to be in their children's lives. I'm not saying everyone cares about this or that they should. I'm just saying I think more men want families than is commonly believed. One link to one article not evidence of anything. If you do a review of the peer reviewed articles on google scholar …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 02:28 PM
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I would remind you that at the biological level, people are trying to reproduce. Nobody needs a relationship as a validating crutch. Relationships are the foundation of the family unit and social order as a whole. Furthermore, people in LTRs have more frequent and better quality sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 02:14 PM
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That makes sense. I guess for women it can be jarring because there is a blind spot for your own SMV here. If the game playing stops and you don't end up fucking, the woman wonders why you bothered because your own SMV wasn't high enough to warrant quick sex. She was waiting for other redeeming qualities to be revealed. Either that or she was interested in a relationship and is confused why you would waste your time trying to make a relationship oriented woman have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 01:21 PM
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Most men don't waste their time chasing pussy they aren't going to get. No, I think seeking sexual validation is the hallmark of insecurity. Secure men look for LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 01:12 PM
1

They don't care. They want sex. If you are curious and feeling him out, you aren't having sex. He wants to make you fuck him or stop talking. That said, most men are not this way. This is sleazy behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 12:51 PM
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Low status "alphas" are omegas. TRP has renamed them "alpha" to feel better about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 02:46 AM
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Well because your body is an extension of yourself. Pushing your body beyond its natural capacity implies that you stretch yourself beyond what is good for you, possibly in multiple areas of your life. Challenging oneself is an extremely attractive quality, but as a woman I wouldn't like to be with a man who stretches himself too thin. For two reasons 1- I am a person who puts a lot of effort into my LTRs. If the guy is too focused on challenging himself, he may not have the time to commit fully…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 08:59 PM
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I would be put off by PED use. However, not to the point of refusing to date someone or judging them for it. I would assume their progress was due to hard work. In fact, I would assume they were over working themselves and be worried for that reason. I would be concerned about why they wanted to use PED and I would think they had poor self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 12:57 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 06:13 PM
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Where are you quoting this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 12:42 PM
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I'm purple. Still more blue than red though. Does that count?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 02:04 AM
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Oh of course. I was speaking generally, but these things are always contextual. And I don't think men (or women) should be judged by a number. I have just noticed there are frequently sad stories behind high numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 12:03 AM
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Really, lower is often better for men because it means they were able to make a choice they were happy with sooner. Higher n count often = failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 10:10 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 11:02 PM
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A person with no goals at 24 will not have goals at 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 04:00 AM
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In a woman's 30s, she in generally having children. Unless you don't want kids. If she's messing around in her 20s, raising kids in her 30s, where does the opportunity to build a career, secure assets and investments come in? Poof. Magically in her 40s? The question was regarding a person's wife. I agree you could have different partners in your 20s and 40s and achieve this balance of screwing around in your 20s and focusing in your 40s. But, if you are marrying someone at 24, she is going to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 06:54 PM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 12:59 PM
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No, it's just that I want to meet the person that has no goals in their 20s and magically has a massive investment portfolio in their 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 08:09 PM
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Okay. Good luck with that strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 07:54 PM
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So you genuinely believe that a person who flits around in their 20s is going to suddenly have a large investment portfolio? The question was not what would you tolerate in a 24 year old that you wouldn't in a 40 year old. It was what would you tolerate in your wife pre and post wall. This implies that the person who is 24 is the same person you will be with when you are 40. If that person is lazy, they will remain lazy. Unless you are suggesting you would marry at 24 and divorce at 40 if the la…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 07:47 PM
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Yes of course, but what I am saying is that being in grad school or having a job they are interested in can still happen even if it is not as serious as it will one day be. I'm just pointing out that while people don't magically have solid investments at 24, they don't magically have them at 40 either. Successful people begin building something for themselves in their 20s. Of course, I'm not suggesting people need marry women or men that are highly ambitious. I'm more so saying that the level of…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 07:30 PM
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These things are unlikely to change with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 07:24 PM
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Well, I would like to start off by saying I doubt I will change your view entirely because I ultimately agree that nobody likes unwanted sexual attention. Overall, I also believe your assessment is correct. People do confuse these three things. However, I believe it is a mistake to conflate the three. Not all friends are close. Not all people who get close want sex. Not all people who have sex are friends. Etc. Etc. Moreover, many straight men are fine with gay male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 03:44 PM
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There is a difference between "having friendships", "getting close" and "sexual attention".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 03:33 PM
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All men take about a week to absorb new social/relational information. All men are rather aimless in terms of their emotional needs. All men are obsessed with pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 05:07 AM
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Why would you need to keep them on their toes if you are confident that you provide value to them ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 11:58 AM
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That's not game playing behaviour. It sounds like you don't provide an atmosphere of safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 10:53 AM
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If your goal is to keep them on their toes, you are operating primarily out of insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 10:48 AM
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Even if I were male I would not want casual sex because I would want to reproduce and watch over my offspring. I would also want my life to be about meaningful interaction, not scratching a sexual itch and chasing pussy. ​ The best way to get a woman is to listen to what she has to say. 80% of guys don't listen. RP men don't seem to understand that women aren't constantly fucking with them. We genuinely see the world differently. Listening to what we have to say will let you in on our perspectiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 08:30 PM
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I admit my sources aren't scholarly, just two people I know personally from France... they also mentioned the no dating thing though. So some of what they told me must be accurate. Anyway, I'm curious now, how would you say it is more and less red pilled? In what ways? Yes, Canada is not red pilled. I wouldn't call it blue pilled though. Neutral is more like. Romance and sex is an afterthought. We are mostly interested in work and beer IMO🍻 That said, males and females do congregate separately. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 08:23 AM
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I'm just saying that this idea you have come up with about men and women having opposing aims is one you wouldn't see everywhere. It's largely North American. It has nothing to do with actual sex differences. Another example is that in France, men and women go out together regularly. There is no such thing as a "guys night". Men going out together to find women would be viewed as predatory. Men and women congregating without each other would be viewed as unnatural.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 03:33 PM
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I really still think that's a massively pessimistic view. I think you can't expect men and women to be a perfect match because we compliment each other. Fun fact: When settlers came to North America, the natives all thought they would die because they came over without women. In other words, this battle of the sexes mentality is purely cultural.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 11:54 AM
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I comfort test way more than I shit test. So I would be pleased. Edit: oh, except the part about not recognizing sarcasm. If I'm being rude, I want the guy to keep me in check.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 02:26 AM
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Not having sex doesn't make you a prude. And sleeping around doesn't make you masculine. It's a mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 02:22 AM
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I have never done this. However, I see no difference between doing this and going purely to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 02:18 AM
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Usually they want to fuck us. The difference is that AWALT has a negative connotation. I am never mad at someone because they are sexually interested. If I say I have a boyfriend before the person has come on to me, it's because I genuinely want to save them time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 02:11 AM
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No. It isn't fair because people are responsible for their own actions, not someone else's.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 02:09 AM
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I understand the concern, but right now mid-low value people are experiencing extremely short relationships. Polyamory may allow people in those categories to experience longer relationships once they find one, since exclusivity isn't required. I guess it depends on whether or not you are concerned with longevity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 10:13 PM
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100% Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 05:40 PM
1

So pay your child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 05:06 PM
1

Oh. I didn't notice the specification. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 03:23 PM
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Most people on these forums have a disorganized attachment style. This means they crave attention without attaching emotionally. Moreover, when you crave attention and when you want space is largely unpredictable. Some may be anxious avoidant, or somewhere between these two. It is unlikely anyone on here would be secure or preoccupied because identifying with any "pill" is indicative of an alternative lifestyle/way of thinking. That said, there is no such thing as a "bad attachment". People do w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 09:27 PM
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Why? I admit my "average is good" is a bit rosy. But "average is bad" is a bit dramatic. In reality average is average.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 09:23 PM
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Same. I guess I just find short term monogamy discouraging.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 09:22 PM
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I mean, obviously women and men today are not appreciating each other if men are referring to their partners as "ms. Good enough" and women are running around looking for mr. Perfect. It's discouraging.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 09:21 PM
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Fair points. I guess I just think women genuinely fear male violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 02:11 PM
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Then yes, perhaps there is some overlap. I just think if people give up on love, it doesn't matter how much game they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 02:10 PM
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Both viewpoints are ridiculous. Where is the gratitude?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 02:08 PM
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Women are basically living in blissful ignorance, which I would argue is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 12:55 PM
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This isn't true. Many men find the right one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 12:53 PM
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There is some overlap, but it is not exactly the same. RP views sex as the primary way to fulfill male desires. I want a man that is primarily interested in long term commitment. Someone that still believes in lifelong love.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 12:52 PM
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Women may be less lonely. They may have an easier time getting a date. But, my assessment is that most women don't have any idea what is going on. They approach sex with a mentality that it is something fun. They have no idea that you guys feel this way. It's jarring to find out that this level of rage exists. Women don't feel this level of anger towards men. Women are hated more. At least, that's how I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 12:49 PM
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This I agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 12:45 PM
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I think it is worse for women. Still, I empathize with the male perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 02:38 AM
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Because or else the kids will suffer. You are so wrapped up in your feelings you have lost sight of all practicality. The kids need care. It's not shaming to observe that some men really add nothing of value. I'm not saying these men are value-less. I'm saying they have chosen not to contribute in any way, which is by definition lazy. Also, from an evolutionary perspective, why would you not want your offspring to survive? This should be basic. I shouldn't be here telling you to feed YOUR childr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 01:36 AM
1

The game helps no one. It's bad for men and women alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 01:25 AM
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I am not. That is someone else's guy. I have my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 01:23 AM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 01:22 AM
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Clearly there is nothing I can say because your opinion is based purely on emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 01:16 AM
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The man IS the bad condition. Men always have 100% control over whether or not they impregnate someone. Those women accept government help because lazy men don't pay for their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 12:53 AM
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You believe in one partner for life? Or are you "monogamous" in all of your relationships? Edit: I am also anti cheating. So we do agree there . I guess I just think short term monogamy isn't satisfactory in a lot of ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 12:51 AM
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I can't speak for all women, but this is a decent generalization. I disagree that the opposite of passivity is aggression, though. Dominance can be actively caring and tender. As for escorts, I have always thought they simply trusted the wrong man/organization and got pimped out. But who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 10:31 PM
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Yeah. Which is how it goes now. The high value people are in relationships. The rest are on TRP picking up leftovers. I actually point this out because polyamory is a solution in this regard as well. People would invest more into their casual relationships and overall have more meaningful relationships. Low totem pole people would at least receive honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 10:13 PM
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I have only ever had natural sex. So I hear you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 10:11 PM
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Well, those are unreliable women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 10:11 PM
1

Or so you would like to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 10:10 PM
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What are you talking about? You are seriously placated by short term monogamy? That is commitment somehow?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 10:10 PM
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No, it doesn't "suck to be them". It sucks to be a child with a deadbeat father. The woman will be fine. It's the kids who suffer. Children need both parents to provide for them. I am seriously concerned that you believe women get pregnant on their own. And that you think men aren't intelligent enough to plan better than that. Fun fact: condoms exist. Abstinence exists. And caring about your child is also an option. Men have options. And a child's life is valuable regardless of her mother's rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 10:08 PM
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Well, you aren't less of a cheater if you are "monogamous" for a year or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 04:53 PM
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What ? You are the one who said women should take birth control. I'm waiting to hear why that would be the case other than your stated position that women should alter their bodies to convenience everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 04:52 PM
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So you believe in forced birth control and abortion? Once again, these are medical interventions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 04:26 PM
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Well, this is a debate about the effects of social stigma. Women are pressured into monogamy. It is highly controversial for a woman to say "I like him, but this isn't for life because he isn't meeting my needs so I'm going to see multiple men". So instead, they pretend the guy is perfect and then branch swing when they find someone that actually satisfies them. This confuses men and they begin to believe women aren't trustworthy. If women were being honest, they would be advocating for polyamor…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 04:22 PM
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How? One person's income isn't enough to support a child. You are advocating for abortion as the standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 04:13 PM
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Of course not. But forced monogamy leads to shorter relationships. Why waste years thinking a person is right for you, only to discover they were dissatisfied the entire time? Polyamory allows people to be more upfront about where a relationship stands and increases the length of the relationship because the person doesn't have to leave to find someone better. Also, I believe monogamy would still persist among couples that valued it and who satisfy each other. What would decrease is casual sex a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 04:11 PM
0

Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 04:03 PM
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Well, if that's how you feel, go join them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 04:02 PM
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They end up in trailer parks because government support and child support don't cover the expenses. If you said there were women in mansions who have chosen this, then you would have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 03:59 PM
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It's an opinion, not an argument. You keep essentially stating that abortion should be the standard response to an unwed pregnancy and that natural birth is in some way something the woman has done to the man. Until you explain why the man would expect the woman to get an abortion, it's not an argument. Clearly the default option is giving birth. The alternative choice is abortion because it requires significant medical intervention. Men assuming women are going to undergo a medical procedure wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 03:57 PM
0

More polyamorous relationships. This would be better for everyone anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 03:48 PM
1

So basically, you don't make arguments. You just say "no" and repeat yourself a lot. Men know the law. Their response to the law is their choice. That's the bottom line.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 03:39 PM
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Nope. Not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 03:33 PM
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Wow. Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed. It's not an act. I'm genuinely disappointed when people support the lazy options in life - men and women equally. So the fact that you aren't male doesn't change my view. Also, the man did also choose to have a child out of wedlock as well. A discussion with the woman about what she would choose if she were pregnant isn't so difficult. Acting shocked after not bothering to find out is outrageous. And once again, lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 03:31 PM
0

Well, maybe she just isn't that interested. If she's attracted, I don't see why it would be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 03:24 PM
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Do the math. Child support doesn't even cover half of the expenses of having a child if the man is of average income.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 03:01 PM
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Ew. So you actively advocate for abortion and/or women giving their children up to the foster care system? Women who roll up their sleeves and raise their own children are to be looked down upon while women who abort or give up their children are to be celebrated? Why, because you may be asked to contribute yourself? Laziness in the highest degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 02:57 PM
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Yeah, the men on these forums live on another planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 02:53 PM
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I don't think the two things have to be mutually exclusive. You can display sexual desire and still get to know someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 02:51 PM
1

That is illogical.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 01:30 PM
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Had no idea it was a thing. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 08:54 AM
1

Because that stuff is lame? The kid has 100k and you want him to get a haircut?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 05:20 AM
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Buy a house first if you don't already have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 05:19 AM
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I have been told I have toxic femininity because I have suggested women should put their best foot forward when dating. I also believe that women need to sleep around less and take our role as selectors of the species more seriously. However, I have only the highest regard for men. I think women are wonderful too. And I believe these things would ultimately help society. So I do not believe I have toxic femininity by your definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 05:15 AM
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People that want to exploit you are pretty bad. But I guess that falls under "criminal".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 05:12 AM
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It's self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 05:10 AM
1

Because the strange man at the bar is probably out to use us sexually? No one is "cock blocking". Your cock doesn't belong in our friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 05:09 AM
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25% would hurt me. 50% would help me with minor things like hold the door or buy me a drink. 25% would help me move or listen to a personal problem. Overall, I think men are more likely to help me. That said, I think the psychos are really psycho.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 05:07 AM
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What exactly is a "bad man"? I have been attracted to men other people didn't approve of. Of course, I didn't care about their opinion. Good people can be criminals. Evil people can be revered in society. Every man I have ever loved has been an addict. So maybe not good for me, but all great men in terms of character. No abuse. No real problems. Also, mocking single mothers is a low blow. There's nothing wrong with getting pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 05:02 AM
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Ask for sure. I am in a great LTR. If we didn't ask each other for stuff, we would be going in blind.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 04:56 AM
1

Yup. Nothing to argue here. Men do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 04:55 AM
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It's not mind games. We want to get to know you first.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 04:54 AM
2

My fear is based primarily on statistics. Yes, I think men should fear each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 04:53 AM
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Everyone bristles about having emotions. Meanwhile, they claim they aren't lacking in empathy or sociopathic in any way 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 04:51 AM
2

I don't like TRP. However, the one thing I do like about it is I have learned more about myself from reading about women from a new perspective. So I will just disagree with your main point because seeing through my tricks is literally the only turn on. What is a turn off is the suggestion that everything women do is a trick. TRP boils women down to extremely simplistic creatures. It actually makes interacting with men less fun. Moreover, it is often inaccurate. Please prove TRP leads to higher …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 02:25 AM
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I think it's common. But, I don't think it's a bad thing. Women just can't date a bunch of guys at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 02:08 AM
1

💯 I love this. Edit: This is not intended to be rude. I actually just believe TRP is largely ignored by mental health experts. I'm not calling anyone crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 01:20 AM
0

Average is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 01:19 AM
1

I would admit it. It isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 12:38 AM
1

No, sorry. None of them were redpill. I have had redpill men after me and I showed them the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 10:54 PM
1

Haha. Thank you then :P
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 10:53 PM
2

Yes. But by choice. Someone who has been investing in quality LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 02:36 PM
1

I don't want an "experienced" guy because I don't consider sexual experience to be "success". Rather, I consider it to be a sign of relationship failure and a lack of loyalty. Similar to how men want women with a low number count.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 01:37 PM
3

Exactly. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 01:35 PM
7

Well yeah. How can you fear the act itself if you don't believe you will have to be permanently committed?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 04:27 AM
5

Highly unlikely because you guys all seem fearful of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 04:04 AM
6

No. I like oneitis. I admit, abundance mentality is good. I wouldn't want a man who is with me because he thought he couldn't be with someone else. I want him to want me. But, I also want the man I am with to think that I am the one. I don't want someone fearful and jaded. I also don't want the pressure of having to constantly reassure them that I'm not too hypergamous. I want a man that knows he's the best one for me. I hear TRP, I think insecurity. Maybe I'm viewing it wrong, but that's what I…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 04:03 AM
4

No. But I like monogamous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 03:36 AM
6

Nope. I would never be with a redpill man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 03:01 AM
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I am always in a relationship, so this is usually why I let men down. It is extremely difficult for me to let someone down, especially if I like them. I think what men don't understand is that you really can only date one person at a time. Not every rejection is personal. One thing I hate about TRP is the idea that every woman will be up for something if you are good enough, regardless of her relationship status. I have literally turned down mouthwatering men. They usually end up angry at me, no…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 11:39 PM
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No. Liberalism encompasses fiscal and social beliefs. I am fiscally liberal (give lots of money to minority groups) while also myself being personally very traditional. I also believe we need to listen to the experiences and opinions of women and minorities while holding myself to traditional standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 10:38 PM
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I am attracted to caregiving from men. I have never slept with a man who was not committed to me and I never will. I want a man who can lead me. I feel like what many on here refer to as "alpha" is what I would refer to as a small child, running around doing whatever they want for no reason. Many just appear unable to sustain a relationship. I look for maturity and stability first and foremost. My partner is successful in dating because he wants to date me and he is dating me. If he wanted somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 03:49 PM
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Yup!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 03:35 PM
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Facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 03:27 PM
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Ty
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 03:25 PM
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No, I actually like jokes like that. I mean stuff like repeatedly trying to send me nude videos and asking me to keep secrets from my partner. Very direct come-ons that are super awkward. I have had to end long term friendships over this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 03:24 PM
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Mid twenties mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 03:08 PM
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Fantastic point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 02:21 PM
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The reward is meaning and fulfillment. We live in a consumerist culture that suggests that we should constantly be getting what we want instead of giving to others. This is false. We should be giving. Nobody has kids for themselves. They have kids because they want to provide. Moreover, this post pre-supposes that the child in question will also become nothing but a consumer as well. If the parents are giving people, the child in question will likely also be raised in that same spirit and will c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 02:13 PM
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I experience it often and it is extremely distressing. That said, I usually experience it from male friends of mine. It distresses me because I value their friendship despite the fact that I won't sleep with them. It distresses me because I fear they do not care about me and are just hovering waiting for sex. This is especially painful when I am attracted a friend but I am trying to remain loyal to another guy. The lack of care for the position I am in is super painful. It seems like they would …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 01:46 PM
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Thank you! :P
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 11:59 AM
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Absolutely. That's what I'm all about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 03:41 AM
1

Lol he probably had something good about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 03:39 AM
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My bet is, she actually had a boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 01:39 AM
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While I agree that people need to stick together and I do not support divorce, I would suggest that people need to tackle these issues morally within themselves as opposed to it being enforced by the courts. The reason being that forcing a person to remain in marriage does not solve the issues within the marriage. I do not believe people should be forced into unhealthy situations. In fact, with the option of no fault divorce, pro active couples will work harder on their marriages. Again, researc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 03:19 PM
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Wow. I have never seen such misinterpretation of Christianity. I encourage you to re-read these passages in their entirety. I also encourage you to re-examine your view of Christ. Yes, Christ stands up for himself at various points in the bible. However, this is simple assertiveness. Christ literally died for the sins of his church. Men are called to love their wives in exactly that way regardless of their sins. That is the entire point of Ephesians 5. The exact words are "making her whole and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 03:07 PM
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In terms of me citing the studies, I cannot because I read them as part of various psych courses. What I can tell you is that the data is Canadian because I went to a Canadian university. You can probably find similar studies online on google scholar. Moreover they are actually very commonly read studies. Virtually every actual academic interested in psych or sociology will be aware of these statistics. That said, I appreciate your points. There are gaps in academic literature which is why I'm h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 02:29 PM
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Traditional marriage in the West is based on the Christian model. But, what you described is not Christian. The Christian model does not suggest that men and women should be unequal in any way. Yes, there are differences. However, the man is not supposed to consider himself above her in any way. In fact, he is supposed to "love as Christ loved his church" as in die for her. This is required of him regardless of her behaviour. Submission is required of women. However, submission is not as high of…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 12:17 AM
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I would like to point out that the changing dynamics of marriage cannot possibly be making marriage less relevant because studies show that while fewer people are choosing to get married, fewer people who do get married are divorcing. This is especially true of millennials. While feminism has caused people to think harder about whether or not to get married, it has not made divorce more likely. Moreover, married people still report higher rates of happiness and sex. In fact, the most satisfying …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:32 PM
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To begin, I agree with your assertion that traditional marriage served a purpose and feminism altered the dynamics of marriage. However, I would like to contest the idea that no-fault divorce was a significant part of this. I would be in support of no fault divorce because requiring fault benefits only the lawyers. If someone wants to leave, there is no reason to increase financial burdens for either party. Moreover, there may be fault somewhere that is difficult to definitively prove but why su…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:25 PM
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Sure. I am going to respond with multiple comments though because your post is long and also sectioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:17 PM
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That is genuinely the tone I received from your post. Yes, I agree with your historical facts. What I disagree with is your interpretation of those facts. ABC therefore C is the answer to all of history's problems is not logical. Just because this is where our society is at today doesn't mean we will continue in that direction. History is cyclical. We all have a better shot reconnecting with traditionalism than with advancing a red pill agenda that only serves 50% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:08 PM
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It would seem to be about you since you are the one who wrote it. That said, my intention was only to point out that your argument is largely dependent on emotion. A large portion of the male population does not agree with you and feels entirely differently. And most women don't view their husbands as Chad or simps. Most are in love. Again, I am just throwing this out there because Reddit is often a huge echo chamber and that is the whole point of PP.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 10:43 PM
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Honestly, if this is how you feel, you should not marry. No one should be threatened by MGTOW or TRP because high quality women will simply avoid you and choose a committed husband. This movement is no loss for women. The softer side of me that cares thinks that reacting this way will not solve anything for men. You are choosing to behave in a reactionary manner rather than fighting for what you actually believe worked - traditionalism and marriage. Unless I'm misunderstanding?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 08:55 PM
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No one should be off the hook for any bad behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 08:46 PM
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I'm virtually certain your friend is lying to you. There is a lot of pressure on couples to pretend we aren't happy. If the three of you were in a room together and you had this debate, you would not win.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 08:44 PM
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That may be true. I know that the average woman has 8 partners in a lifespan and the average man has 12. Edit: This statistic is Canadian.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 07:04 PM
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It isn't inaccessible. You could look for it online or pay to take an intro psych course. It's very accessible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 06:56 PM
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I am saying there were two normal curves cantered around those numbers. I wasn't the researcher, I took a course in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 06:49 PM
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No. So most women said one. It was both the mean and the mode. As for men, 50% only want one partner. 50% want 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 06:24 PM
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No. They said "How many partners would you like to have?". Women were included in the study as well. The average answer was 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 06:10 PM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 05:45 PM
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Most people who read TRP laugh, learn and move on. You only go red pill if you are insecure in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 04:04 PM
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No woman with self respect would sleep with a red pill man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 04:02 PM
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I don't think this is good behaviour. I also think it is wrong to judge her for her choices. Just don't sleep with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 04:00 PM
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I consider myself western, liberal and traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 03:59 PM
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Because TRP is centred around a poverty mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 03:57 PM
1

I love average. 😍
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 03:56 PM
1

How would I have a link to a study from my undergraduate degree?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 03:42 PM
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I thought we were able to debate here. Or is this just TRP light?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 03:41 PM
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No. I mean this guy is correct. Red pill is weak because it is a defensive response to hypergamy. TRP is a way for men to cast a wide net because they don't believe they can hold down a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 03:31 PM
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💯 this is why TRP is weak
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 03:25 PM
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I honestly think women who go for this are on another planet. I'm not going to lie, maintain your figure. But as long as you are a healthy weight there's nothing to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 01:53 PM
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I love this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 12:34 PM
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I think men aren't feeling judged as often. I could be wrong. If you feel judged, speak up for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 12:33 PM
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Of course it's natural. Redpill isn't natural. If it were, no one would need to read the sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 12:31 PM
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Lol no I'm ridiculous I meant 1000 people 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 12:28 PM
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50% of men are dangerous. Not all men. AWALT is different because hypergamy is actually a positive quality. Go ahead and say AWALT, it's a good thing that women want the best. If a man is threatened by this, it's male weakness. Which is basically running rampant on TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 12:26 PM
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I may have misread the study. It may have said 50% WANT 6 women. I'm not trolling though. This is actually a good thing for women because it means 50% of men are one way and 50% are another so we can choose our style.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 12:20 PM
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If you think AWALT is a bad thing, that's literally the definition of sexism. Don't know what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 08:10 AM
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I learned it in undergrad. I forget the specific study but it surveyed 1000 countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 08:03 AM
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Ew. I want one woman men. Or maybe two. Too much is too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 08:01 AM
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I don't know. I'm not inventing the numbers tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 08:01 AM
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First they watch TV, then they read TRP. Not a lot of active thinking happens unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 07:21 PM
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Cross cultural studies demonstrate that there are two groups of men: men who have one partner at a time and men who have 6. The average is 3, but nobody actually has three because they either have 1 or 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 07:20 PM
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Empathy is a must.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 12:49 PM
1

Okay. Because I'm saying that men who want children will feel differently about this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 11:43 AM
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Not necessarily. I prefer first place. I just don't mind if realistically that isn't how it turns out. Especially since the guy may also be my second choice. I would never give more than two men attention at a time though and I would like my level of investment to be matched evenly to minimize harm for everyone involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 11:42 AM
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I kinda want 7 kids now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 02:18 AM
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Redpill is pure delusion. Plain and simple. Just make a baby and stop with the drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:59 AM
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My friends are mean because my guy is nice to me and is more well educated. Go figure. People can be mean to pick on someone weaker, but also out of jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:53 AM
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100%
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:52 AM
1

Having a car matters. The kind of car does not except in rare circumstances (i.e. it is an expensive car that he paid off in cash because he is that rich or it is an expensive car he cannot afford and I'm out)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:51 AM
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I don't just need a connection. I need eternal devotion. I read a book by a man living in a World War II concentration camp who said he didn't know whether his wife and children were alive. But, it didn't matter to him because he looked at the moon and knew that they were eternally connected and that when they looked at the moon they would both think of each other. No sex unless I feel that. And even if I feel that, still probably no sex. This is a soul connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:44 AM
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Never had sex with an older man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:38 AM
1

I am never single.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:38 AM
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There is no wall. And I don't consider myself blue pill or red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:36 AM
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I think sex has to be special and I have sex every day. That said, it's more so that I believe that sex has to take place within a special relationship, not that I need to be in some special mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:32 AM
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I crave specifically male companionship. I sincerely love men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:29 AM
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That's crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:28 AM
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I don't know. I want a man with a low N count as well. I don't want some dirty man who can't get his life together and lives like a perpetual teenager. I don't mind if the guy expects something from me as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:27 AM
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I actually think the serpent is red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:25 AM
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Yes, there is such a thing as girl game. It is more about getting the guy to take you seriously and commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:25 AM
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Hahaha! I love this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:11 AM
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When I see people that require multiple partners, I see a scarcity mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:08 AM
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100% agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:06 AM
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Bang on. This is something many people struggle with. My question to you would be do you believe your level of sexual desire is healthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:03 AM
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Sure, but she's in the best position with a man who makes more than $50 000 and does some freakin housework!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:00 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 12:57 AM
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It is hugely ironic. In my opinion, if you aren't studying feminism and men's rights movements you don't know anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 12:56 AM
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Asking would not dry my pussy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 12:53 AM
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The way I see it is: ​ Blue Pill men: lazy monogamous men who want to engage in social niceties in exchange for a short term sexual contract. On the bright side, they are kind. Red Pill men: insecure men who need constant sexual validation because they do not believe anyone will truly love them. On the bright side, they sound fun. Black Pill men: men who have reduced themselves to pieces of sexual meat, but who also believe they are unattractive. On the bright side, they have stopped pretending …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 12:50 AM
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I think we need to stop shaming each other for being sexual beings. Men and women are sexual creatures. However, hopefully we all have other qualities we are interested in as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 12:30 AM
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I would look for someone nice and around the same level of physical attractiveness as the person asking. They may want a 10, but if they are a 4 I will look for a 4. Ultimately these are the best matches anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 12:28 AM
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No. A plate is essentially friends with benefits without the friends part. A RP guy with a girlfriend may or may not cheat, it's unrelated to his "player" status. Some of these guys remain committed for brief periods of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 12:27 AM
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I gather you are not interested in men who want children?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 12:13 AM
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I think it is good for both men and women to have humility when choosing a partner. I'm too young to know, but I assume I will be okay with wrinkles one day. I will say this, men in their late 20's and 30s look way better than men in their early 20s IMO because of their SHOULDERS. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 12:12 AM
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People who are unattractive obsess over their SMV. People who are attractive focus on building relationships and forming connections. That's the real difference. You can be nerdy and still have successfully dated in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 12:07 AM
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Male thirst is a turn off when the guy is thirsty with 80% of women. It's a turn on when he is selective about his thirst. For me personally, I want to be one of his top two options.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 12:03 AM
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I almost never agree with my friends about what is attractive. We almost always disagree. I like men who are more intelligent, well dressed and loyal but nerdy.They like men who sleep around and have very little money because they believe these men are more laid back and suave. This is primarily because of class differences between myself and my friends. I grew up around men who were more well off. That said, we do all agree if someone is supremely unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 11:48 PM
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You get what you give in life. If you change your superficial qualities, you will receive more superficial relationships. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 11:44 PM
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Cute = emotionally attractive Hot = good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 11:25 PM
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