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Facts. But uncomfortable facts for a lot of men.
/r/MensRights24/01/24 10:42 PM
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There’s a great sense of uncomfortable guilt that washes over men when discussing ai girlfriends and boyfriends. At face value, I love this in the same way I love the idea of legalizing prostitution and making it a safe, protected occupation. But, at the end of the day, when you’re in that room staring down the perfectly nice worker whose company you paid for, one can’t help but think, “why has it come to this? Why do I have to pay to simulate receiving love; something I would practically give a…
/r/MensRights10/01/24 09:39 PM
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Seems win/win honestly. The only reason women are so picky in the first place is because being single is preferable than not getting someone we want. If I lose out on a good man because another woman was better, then well-played, ma’am. Single > mediocrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:55 AM
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I personally don’t but only because I wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end of a cold approach myself unless the man is perfect or something. Now, if they want to do it,I wouldn’t discourage them, but I wouldn’t go out of my way to tell a guy he should put a woman in a situation I find unpleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:47 AM
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Safe sex with someone I’m attracted to + knowing what my body likes = guaranteed orgasm 99 percent of the time. On top of that, my business is my business. People knowing who I sleep with or how often I do it is not a thing. Also, orgasms from sex are better than ones from masturbating IMO. Pretty self-explanatory what the appeal is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:36 AM
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35/f/unmarried That’s a lot of time to waste if you’re ultimately sexually incompatible. I’d rather find something like that out sooner rather than later. Even though I bemoan being single for sure, the idea of having a partner I wait for marriage with before seeing if he’s even equipped for the job is far more terrifying. Because I know what bad sex feels like, and practice doesn’t always make it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:25 AM
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I think AI girlfriends are great for lonely men and had no idea they were customizable like that. The only thing that worries me whenever I see a guy talk about them is when he aims to use one to ‘practice’ human interactions thinking that real woman are in any way like AIs. Even though I don’t think AI robots like that will be anywhere near realistic enough in my lifetime, if by some miracle they are, I think there will be a huge market for them for women as well. The second a convincing male e…
/r/MensRights09/01/24 11:02 PM
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My point is that they would call the bluff in order to show that the first rule isnt ridiculous and just do the whole malicious compliance thing as the ‘submissive’. So you’d still be in a bad spot because you’d fail to make your point. So basically, if you said “if this is fair, then THIS is fair, too” and they call your bluff and say “okay”, then what?
/r/MensRights26/12/23 10:52 AM
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In the first scenario, I see why a woman would want this. In the ‘counter’, if the person making the argument has their bluff called, it seems like a window to malevolent compliance. Because no one who isn’t toxic would need such an arrangement to begin with rather than…talking disagreements out? So, in the end, the man is ultimately still left in a lurch.
/r/MensRights24/12/23 01:56 AM
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I’m not sure why you’re being so obtuse about this when the video this post is about narrows down what kind of heroes are being discussed.
/r/MensRights21/12/23 02:07 PM
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We are conditioned that way; especially with the way the camera was moving. David Cage (and a lot of other directors) loved to introduce female protagonists in the shower. Showers are perfectly normal and common, too. I’m not about to start dissecting those opening shower scene as some high art decisions that went over my head somehow when the simplest explanation is usually the correct one lol.
/r/MensRights20/12/23 02:51 PM
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Well having a different taste than your girlfriend doesn’t make me an oddball. Different genre’s cater to different people. It makes sense to find “will they won’t they” subplots in Hallmark movies because that’s their bread and butter.
/r/MensRights20/12/23 12:53 PM
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I’m talking about the hero(es) in a movie who actually feel like they have a shot at getting out alive or, at the very least, stopping the bad thing from happening. “Doom fucking” implies someone has given up. Heroes don’t give up.
/r/MensRights20/12/23 10:34 AM
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In all my watches, this had never come across but, now that you’ve said something, it makes sense.
/r/MensRights20/12/23 10:29 AM
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Well I did specifically end it with saying that I most certainly not be thinking about that, leaving room for the possibility that, yes, some people actually would.
/r/MensRights20/12/23 10:24 AM
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Oh, I wasn’t saying the scenes had no creative merit. I was saying I personally didn’t care. The main plot was far more interesting than whether two people end up together.
/r/MensRights20/12/23 10:20 AM
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Not in a life or death situation with huge stakes, which is mostly the situation in hero movies. At least I wouldn’t be thinking about whose babies I’d rather have in Alien. Cause of the Alien, ya know.
/r/MensRights19/12/23 10:16 PM
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Tl;dr - I have always found the romance in most older movies (especially fantasy movies) to be the weakest part of a story. Unfortunately, even though they are being removed, they aren’t being replaced with anything interesting. I remember being a little girl watching Blade with my dad and loving the heck out of it. Not only was Wesley Snipes super cool, but the Doctor was, too. I had never seen a female protagonist that wasn’t the main character be so helpful to the main plot before. In fact, t…
/r/MensRights19/12/23 05:54 PM
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It is. Sure, you’ll find people who will insist it’s not, but their existence and vocal nature doesn’t mean there aren’t a great number of detractors. But, just because they don’t approve of something or deem it predatory doesn’t mean they’re willing to die on a hill in an online forum telling strangers about it.
/r/MensRights19/12/23 05:11 PM
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If he wants to treat the hypothetical that way, then fine, but stop blaming the messenger for pointing out that the position exists.
/r/MensRights19/12/23 12:29 AM
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I brought up a hypothetical that he’ll encounter while having debates like this. If he wants to be prepared, I’m preparing him. If he wants to dismiss their position without a counter, fine, but don’t get mad at me for bringing up the fact that the position exists.
/r/MensRights19/12/23 12:24 AM
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I was playing devil’s advocate. I at no point said this was how ‘I’ felt. I was saying that this is a potential hurdle that will need to be dealt with. The position I am framing here isn’t from someone who denies it’s happening but from someone who acknowledges that it IS happening but insists on ‘solutions’ considered extreme and in violation of human autonomy. Why did I do this? Because the whole point of the post is asking for counter arguments as OP is trying to figure out how to handle a co…
/r/MensRights18/12/23 01:39 PM
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People ask gamblers that everyday.
/r/MensRights17/12/23 07:03 AM
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Some people like to gamble.
/r/MensRights16/12/23 11:48 PM
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Because this is a man on man issue, the question women are asking is, “what are men prepared to do in order to stop it?” We (women) could come up with all sorts of proposals like the example one I gave above, but if men don’t want to do it, men don’t want to do it. So what do men want to do about it? As long as that goes unanswered, the conversation can’t really progress, and that’s how women lose interest in the topic altogether.
/r/MensRights16/12/23 10:11 PM
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Ooo this is a slippery slope because the “solution/help” offered might be to have an even shorter leash on natural male behavior. Since this is male on male violence, women aren’t the ones needing to change and thus may propose extreme measures like mandatory medications in prisons that essentially chemically castrate everyone there so that rape can’t happen. And if there is any pushback on the idea, women can dismiss male on male sexual violence since solving it is “clearly not worth giving up …
/r/MensRights16/12/23 08:46 PM
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It depends on which men are bringing up the problems men are facing. If it’s someone close to a woman, she is more inclined to hear him out and take him seriously; especially if he’s extremely vocal about it. If it’s some random dude online or in a video (which, let’s face it, is the only exposure most women have had with men’s rights activism) then it’s far easier to dismiss. It doesn’t help that this whole loneliness thing is happening because that means a lot of men have far fewer connections…
/r/MensRights16/12/23 08:31 PM
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It’s about being prosperous enough to take care of myself and those I care about while also having the time to indulge in the things and people who make me happy.
/r/MensRights15/12/23 06:05 PM
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To me, one just has to say it.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 06:40 PM
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I asked a question and got my answer. I’m not sure what there would be to say.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 02:03 PM
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The op helped me out. Ty though.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 01:58 PM
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I’m not sure if that’s a genuine question or not. Edit: Also, yes, I missed the feminist section. I usually control F to find what I need in these papers, but I’m on a tablet right now. That was my mistake.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 01:09 PM
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This is about women. The title of the article is claiming specifically feminists. I’m looking for where the study says feminists were polled. Wanting an egalitarian relationship doesn’t mean feminist. I’m sure most men here would want an egalitarian relationship. Are they feminists?
/r/MensRights14/12/23 12:12 PM
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Where is this in the study he is citing is what I’m asking. Because none of the links talk about feminists. Just women.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 12:09 PM
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Okay then I’m a dumb, willfully blind feminist who doesn’t see where OP says the study is on feminists, and I’m asking to have it pointed out to me specifically just like one would a child.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 11:32 AM
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Why is it when I ask for direct citation of a claim, it always turns into this..
/r/MensRights14/12/23 11:25 AM
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I went to the link and don’t see where the distinction between women and feminist is made. I seriously am confused. Could you please point exactly where the study says feminists were polled?
/r/MensRights14/12/23 10:54 AM
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“More or less feminist” huh? With no actual distinction. Something stinks if they don’t just say “Feminist”. Edit: Also, none of the sources this guys cites say anything about the women polled being feminists. They also just say ‘women’, too.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 10:49 AM
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My god, did you read the article? Or maybe I’m missing something. The title says “Feminists think sexist men are sexier than woke men”, but the article only talks about women. Not feminist. No where in that article does it state that the feelings they recorded from women were felt by feminists, so wtf op?
/r/MensRights14/12/23 10:38 AM
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Yup, he will have plenty of ‘noping’ to do. And that’s why I said learning how to do so doesn’t happen overnight and requires help. If people are vitriolic and hateful towards him just because he has different views, the only answer is to distance one’s self from those people.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 08:39 AM
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All the more reason for him to follow the steps in listed.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 08:36 AM
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Sometimes I do. To me, the difference between feminism and egalitarianism is the same difference between a lazer and a flashlight. Sometimes, a lazer is a better tool. Sometimes a flashlight is, even though they both shine light.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 01:11 AM
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Because gendered topics are important to me but not always the focus in egalitarian circles. I switch hats when necessary.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 01:03 AM
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That’s the thing about umbrellas. They will never have everyone agreeing on every single point or topic. There will always be something someone disagrees about. I do call myself egalitarian, too. I can belong to more than one umbrella. One just happens to be gendered.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 01:01 AM
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It’s not “my” movement. As a feminist, I share ideals that other feminists also have, but we don’t all agree on the same things. It’s not my place to arbitrate what counts as ‘real’ feminism just because I don’t agree with someone’s position. But I do call out misandry when I see it if the situation warrants it. I’m not attacking anyone. I’m laying out my limited capacity to do much in a space where not everyone has to agree on everything in order to still call themselves a feminist. How about y…
/r/MensRights14/12/23 12:53 AM
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I agree that that’s a thing as well. Sadly, that is outside of my realm of expertise as I don’t know what makes a young man alternate priorities like that. For example, I can’t simply say, “give finding a partner a rest and seek out different ways to fulfill your life” if they are hellbent in their belief that they cannot be happy or motivated without a woman in their life. A professional might know how to navigate that, though.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 12:37 AM
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Even if it is savage, vitriolic hatred, the people who are doing it are still strangers and it still seems to solely manifest online for this poster. I’m sure we can exposit real life “what if” situations until the cows come home, but it really does seem like op is a chronically online individual who doesn’t know how to deal with people who dislike him for his thoughts. He makes attempts to disengage with topics that clearly upset him, but doesn’t seem to have the willpower to stay away if he ac…
/r/MensRights14/12/23 12:25 AM
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This seems to go far beyond the actual subject matter of certain feminist ideology, and seems to have more to do with an inability to handle someone somewhere (who you likely don’t even know) disapproving of you, your thoughts, and your feelings; especially since all of your examples seem to be taken from online experiences. Whether you are right or wrong is irrelevant. Someone not liking the way you feel about a topic should not result in you questioning whether you belong on this earth. I know…
/r/MensRights13/12/23 11:48 PM
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Thanks for the context.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 10:57 PM
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Is this satire? Or just mean? Like, there’s being informative and then there’s taking digs at men for not living up to certain expectations that not everyone has. Maybe I’m overthinking this guy’s delivery.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 10:52 PM
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Ohhh you’re talking about him in general. I thought you were saying that he did this in this specific video.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 10:26 PM
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I don’t think that’s who OP is talking about, though. At no point in his post is he alluding that the women with this problem aren’t genuinely looking to date and are just aimlessly looking for validation.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 09:55 PM
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I explained this in a different comment on this post, but I’ll copy/paste that here. A little insight from the female side. It depends on when guys get back to me that determines whether I get overwhelmed or not and have to start making decisions on who to continue with based on the level of engagement. So, I’m a free user and can’t see my likes until I happen to like them back randomly. At that point, it’ll say “it’s a match!”, and we can start talking. But guys don’t always get back to me as s…
/r/MensRights13/12/23 09:44 PM
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I think you watched the wrong video..
/r/MensRights13/12/23 09:38 PM
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Dude..not being able to handle a certain amount of messages at one time is not an “anti-social behavior pattern”.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 09:34 PM
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A little insight from the female side. It depends on when guys get back to me that determines whether I get overwhelmed or not and have to start making decisions on who to continue with based on the level of engagement. So, I’m a free user and can’t see my likes until I happen to like them back randomly. At that point, it’ll say “it’s a match!”, and we can start talking. But guys don’t always get back to me as soon as I send them a message. So I keep swiping on guys I like and occasionally get m…
/r/MensRights13/12/23 09:31 PM
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Okay, I’m a little confused because I don’t understand where you stand on this. Do you think that the preference to preserve specific (read: traditional) gender expectations and norms in society is okay or not? If you do, great. There is no problem here. Women have a right to want a thing in a relationship. Men have a right to want to be that thing in a relationship. Feminists can disapprove of said behavior within that relationship all they want but, at the end of the day, they are not part of …
/r/MensRights13/12/23 02:47 PM
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lol she kinda sounds like me.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 01:55 PM
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No it’s not. The op already told me what the point was and agreed with me.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 01:08 PM
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Yes, it can. But that has nothing to do with being pro-life and going to a fertility clinic.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 11:32 AM
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It depends on the individual, their circumstances, and their needs, yet OP is disinclined to include the choice of them going to a fertility clinic.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 11:20 AM
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Most feminists aren’t actually affiliated with a literal group. Just some ideas. So, ‘kicking someone out’ doesn’t really work just because we fall under the same umbrella. I can’t control others or tell them they aren’t allowed to call themselves a thing. I can only do what you highlighted in your title and call it out as misandry.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 11:17 AM
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So, if pro-life women who want to freeze their eggs don’t want to go to a fertility clinic because of this reason, where would they go to freeze their eggs..?
/r/MensRights13/12/23 11:07 AM
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Unless she specifically said something hypocritical about not liking masculine men and then released this video, what’s the problem? Different women have different preferences just like men. You seem to think the existence of some women liking masculinity means you’re being pushed into it. If you don’t want to be this kind of guy, don’t pursue this type of woman.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 11:05 AM
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That’s one hell of a leap. Freezing eggs potentially makes MORE life. Jeez.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 09:59 AM
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Again, that’s a parent thing. The ‘look’ I was referring to was looking like a slut with loose morals instead of a nice church girl who waits until marriage. This road goes both ways, buddy.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 03:17 AM
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This is a parent thing. Not a gender thing. Plenty of parents do the same for sons. Especially if they don’t like the ‘look’ of the girl a boy brings home. They might not jump to gun violence, but they do threaten violence if she ‘tries anything’ with their boy.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 02:29 AM
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Love how you automatically assumed these women’s political positions just for being at a fertility clinic..
/r/MensRights13/12/23 02:22 AM
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Also valid. Either way, putting all of one’s eggs in one basket is not wise imo. The message I got growing up made sense.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 02:10 AM
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The message I got growing up was that stay-at-home motherhood was a gamble. Sure, you could do it but, if at any point the man you choose decides to change for the worst, you’re stuck. Even if you do get the nerve to leave, you have no career to earn your own money and big x-year gap in employment when applying for jobs. If you work, you can still be a mom, but you also have your own money and a way out juuuust in case. Basically, don’t put all of your eggs in one basket. Because men are still h…
/r/MensRights12/12/23 10:53 PM
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You asked a question and I answered it.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 04:37 PM
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Yes. Doesn’t make the abuse right, but standing tall in the face if it is definitely the best response.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 04:06 PM
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Excuses. There will always, always be people like this who will use someone’s vulnerability against them. It’s never going away. The correct response to them isn’t…giving them what they want and stop expressing emotions. It’s being unapologetically emotional in spite of potential backlash. There is being a victim and then there’s being a perpetual victim by insisting you’ll only agree to be open emotionally once the world agrees to change. You’re setting yourself up for failure with that mindset…
/r/MensRights12/12/23 04:00 PM
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I hear different things from different men about what gives them purpose in life. For every man who feels the way you feel, there is a man who doesn’t and even express how much happier they are without those things. If this is how you feel, fine, but you can’t just speak for ‘men’.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 01:16 PM
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Sounds more miserable than just staying single, but you do you.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 01:04 PM
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The only way to spot them is to be emotional. You’ll find that there are women who are jerks and women who aren’t. It’s not like women who aren’t jerks go around announcing it, though, but they share the same spaces as everyone else.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 09:32 AM
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There is no way to know a man isn’t a predator no matter how long you give him and, since men are capable of preying on a woman no matter how long she’s gotten to know them, the idea is perpetuated that men should always be treated with suspicion. I just thought men here were trying to get away from the narrative that men should be considered inherently dangerous until proven otherwise.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 03:41 AM
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I don’t see how this contradicts what I said. You are basically saying assume men are “strange” unless they prove otherwise because there will always be predators.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 03:19 AM
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If they don’t want to, that’s fine. If they feel the onus is on women changing in order for them to open up, then they can continue to discuss how to magically pull that off. I simply offered the more realistic approach of opening up regardless of what women think.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 02:47 AM
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And so it goes.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 02:32 AM
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Wow such irony. Like, everywhere I look on this sub, men are complaining about how they are demonized right from the get go just for being men and existing, and then here you go basically saying I should always assume men are strange, potential rapists until proven otherwise. This sub confuses me so much..
/r/MensRights12/12/23 02:25 AM
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You say this as if I was shutting down someone’s conversation. If they want to continue discussing things, that’s on them. I simply simplified the facts as they are.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 02:22 AM
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You equate women not being nice to you with being hit with a car??
/r/MensRights12/12/23 02:20 AM
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I’m responding to what the poster said in his last sentence.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 02:10 AM
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I don’t think women aren’t taught compassion. I do think whether to enact compassion is ultimately a choice that can’t be taught, though. People know how to be kind to people. Whether they choose to be is just that; a choice. You can either wait around for everyone to magically choose to be nice and compassionate, or you can live your life in the way that doesn’t harm you and ultimately disregard those who try to give you a hard time about it. If people come around, great. If not, oh well. How y…
/r/MensRights12/12/23 01:48 AM
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That white woman’s advice is valid, so I don’t see the point there. What’s the alternative? To not comply?
/r/MensRights12/12/23 01:28 AM
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Sure they are. But how a woman acts/feels about what a man does should have nothing to do with whether he does it or not. That’s my point. Congrats to her for pinpointing a flaw in how she sees men, but how she sees men should have nothing to do with how men act. Like, if a racist realized it’s bad to treat black people a bad way, congrats to him, but black people shouldn’t be wanting to model themselves after what the racist thought was acceptable in the first place in order to gain their appro…
/r/MensRights12/12/23 01:24 AM
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Some do treat men like shit for being emotional and some don’t. It’s up to men to realize that these people aren’t worth harming themselves through emotional withdrawal. Like with any toxic person, you expunge them from your life.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 01:15 AM
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“That doesn’t mean these relationships are not worth having or are toxic” Dude, that’s exactly what that means. Maybe that’s where you’re going wrong.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 01:12 AM
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Everywhere.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 01:07 AM
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If you’re so dead-set on this thinking, it only proves my point. People who do this to you aren’t worth it. You shouldn’t change yourself to appeal to whatever whims they have at any moment. Be emotional if you want. Don’t hurt yourself withdrawing from emotions and then blame others for ‘having to’.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 12:26 AM
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Does someone have to in order to have an opinion you clearly don’t agree with?
/r/MensRights12/12/23 12:20 AM
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Yes, it is easy for me to say “then that person isn’t worth it” because they aren’t. If someone shows toxic behavior, your goal shouldn’t be changing yourself in order to fit into their world. Simply don’t mix worlds. If you want to feel protected when vulnerable, protect one another. This unwillingness to be emotional is not something women are pushing men towards.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 12:18 AM
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Actually, it’s not ‘strange’ men in a victim’s eyes. If she thought he was strange at the time, she wouldn’t have gone home with him. So, telling women that is pointless. Since so many men didn’t know what qualified as rape and thus didn’t know they were capable of it, telling men not to rape does make sense.
/r/MensRights11/12/23 11:41 PM
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It’s an article about how women act. Not how men have to act because of it.
/r/MensRights11/12/23 11:33 PM
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So? Is a woman who sees you as weak or unattractive for having feelings the kind of woman whose opinion you think you should care about? If women decide to think less of you, let them think less of you so that you don’t do more harm to yourself. No career or social circle is worth it if denying how you feel is literally HARMING you. If it’s not harming you, then it doesn’t matter.
/r/MensRights11/12/23 11:06 PM
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No, hiding emotions and ultimately hurting yourself out of fear some woman somewhere might not like you. Acting like that.
/r/MensRights11/12/23 10:44 PM
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Dunno what they have to do with me and what I’m saying.
/r/MensRights11/12/23 10:24 PM
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Then you’re just not taking responsibility for your own actions (or inaction) if you’re just going to blame the pain/hurt you feel on the fear of some woman somewhere overhearing you and disliking you. The solution to you not hurting yourself shouldn’t be on other people.
/r/MensRights11/12/23 10:15 PM
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You’re going to have to be more specific about what’s being ‘argued’ here. Is it that women are at a higher risk of falling prey to danger while out at night? If so, there is nothing to argue about. This is fact and has nothing to do with men being victims of crimes.
/r/MensRights11/12/23 09:56 PM
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Be responsible for the way you act. No one is ‘pushing’ men to act that way.
/r/MensRights11/12/23 09:41 PM
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My point still stands that plenty of women most definitely are turned on by physical aspects of men. How open they are about it varies, but you can’t claim that, because none of your close relations have talked about such things with you, ‘very few’ women get aroused by what they see and that it comes down to what we feel. Plenty of us very much do get aroused by what we see and also require that what we see be arousing in order to have a sexual relationship with someone.
/r/MensRights11/12/23 08:27 PM
7

That’s because you’re either asking the wrong question or asking the question in a space in which people cannot speak freely. If you ask what makes a man handsome, you will get a very tame response from most women. If you answer what makes a man sexy, you will still get a very tame response UNLESS you are in a space where things like dick sizes and asses and stuff can be spoken about freely. If women are in a space where we can talk about sexy dicks, that conversation can go on for hundreds of p…
/r/MensRights10/12/23 10:38 PM
1

Oof, the irony of all of the dead babies that would result because of that.
/r/MensRights30/11/23 07:05 PM
15

Yup, and that’s not my fault or my rule, so I don’t know why you’re bringing it up like I’m being some sort of hypocrite here that needs to explain how this is okay.
/r/MensRights30/11/23 06:24 PM
23

You’re going to need to accept the fact that, until we invent reliable incubation machines (which I am all for), women take on the labor of carrying a baby. There is no sharing of this load. Only women can do it. If she doesn’t want to, then she shouldn’t be made to. It’s a sad thing that that means that she may make a decision about it that the father doesn’t like, but that’s biology. Making a woman carry a baby to term when she is not ready is wrong.
/r/MensRights30/11/23 06:19 PM
8

I’m not deflecting. What do those advocacy groups and the laws written have to do with what I said? What I said is true whether there’s a law saying it or not.
/r/MensRights30/11/23 06:04 PM
10

Nice try, but I’m never blamed men for anything, and I’m not going to address or defend actions I didn’t make.
/r/MensRights30/11/23 05:57 PM
20

Right. That’s what choice means. She wasn’t ready and op was. The reasons why don’t really matter.
/r/MensRights30/11/23 05:13 PM
1

Never said there was. I said the dude did a nice thing.
/r/MensRights30/11/23 02:48 PM
31

This is as equal as it gets.
/r/MensRights30/11/23 01:01 AM
1

Of course.
/r/MensRights30/11/23 12:18 AM
-6

I guess..
/r/MensRights29/11/23 10:38 PM
-14

Sure it does if it’s a comedy show, and comedians pull from their personal experiences. You’re typically going to get different kinds of jokes based on different life experiences. I don’t know whether or not her jokes were good, but they were likely jokes that maybe couldn’t come from a man. Doing that is an ism? This movement and its priorities..
/r/MensRights29/11/23 10:31 PM
-5

The only time I see male loners is when they don’t seem welcoming to social interaction. I tend not to want to bug men who look like they don’t want to be bugged. Same with women.
/r/MensRights29/11/23 10:09 PM
1

It’s the fact that this is innocuous that has me feeling the way that I am. You can’t take an innocuous example and then replace it with one that isn’t like your hospital example. There is a huge difference both situations, and I won’t be asked to treat them the same.
/r/MensRights29/11/23 10:06 PM
-1

It’s the fact that this is innocuous that has me feeling the way that I am. You can’t take an innocuous example and then replace it with one that isn’t like your hospital example. There is a huge difference in both situations.
/r/MensRights29/11/23 10:02 PM
-2

I already admitted that I didn’t neither do I know how hosting works. I just can’t believe this is what ‘men’s rights’ is and ‘discrimination’ therein.
/r/MensRights29/11/23 09:18 PM
0

He hasn’t done away with the egalitarian method. He has made one exception to offer up something different and give someone underrepresented in said space a chance. Making this ONE exception on his show during his time with his audience’s blessing…is discrimination?
/r/MensRights29/11/23 09:05 PM
-9

What do you mean? This looks like a spur of the moment thing, meaning men normally get chosen. It’d be different if men never got a shot, but it looks like men get the majority of the shots and this one time is the exception that he made because he wanted to be nice.
/r/MensRights29/11/23 08:54 PM
-14

Yes, giving a demographic that is underrepresented in a certain space a special chance to show what they’re made of is male discrimination/female privilege and not…someone just doing a nice thing.
/r/MensRights29/11/23 08:48 PM
-33

And this decision couldn’t possibly help to, say, broaden audience diversity and appeal. Also, this isn’t affirmative action as that is something mandated by a higher authority. Doesn’t the man who is making this choice RUN the show and thus it’s his decision how he wants things to go? I honestly don’t know because I’ve never heard of this show but, if it is his, why can’t he make this call on his own? No one is twisting his arm. He even got support from the audience, dude..
/r/MensRights29/11/23 08:23 PM
1

I remember watching this all the way through when it was a regular YouTube ad. It’s very sweet.
/r/MensRights29/11/23 08:16 PM
1

Because the answer to my question hinges on how I’d answer yours. Why? Because adults can consent. So, for example, a female reporter gets consent to enter a locker room of adults beforehand. Moms and dads get consent in dressing rooms from their adult children who have the right to tell them no. If ADULTS were complaining that female teachers, moms, and female reporters were watching them change without their consent, then I’d have asked for examples of that. If children were complaining about …
/r/MensRights29/11/23 07:55 PM
1

They mentioned teachers (not professors) and moms and dads. Who else if not underaged people are they talking about?
/r/MensRights29/11/23 07:39 PM
0

Not wanting a thing doesn’t equal entitlement I don’t think.
/r/MensRights29/11/23 04:15 PM
8

I mean, it’s been given a name, but these behaviors are already pretty well known. So much so that these ‘weapons’ have turned into stereotypes. It’s classic manipulation, and the only way to deal with a manipulator is to distance yourself. Some women gossip, isolate friends who make them angry from the group, and don’t want to snuggle when denied the things they want from a partner? Yea, that’s a real shocker. It’s one of those “water is wet” posts. I’m just not sure what more there is to talk …
/r/MensRights29/11/23 03:36 PM
1

Yes.
/r/MensRights29/11/23 07:24 AM
2

Like I said, would be an interesting read.
/r/MensRights29/11/23 06:35 AM
6

That would be an interesting read, but ultimately pointless since it’s not actually sexual harassment unless the approach happens explicitly in a place that says it’s against their rules.
/r/MensRights29/11/23 06:17 AM
6

Walk through the male locker room WHILE males were changing? Female reporters in the locker room of underaged athletes while they were changing?
/r/MensRights29/11/23 06:02 AM
2

Yup. And it’s called an opinion.
/r/MensRights29/11/23 05:59 AM
4

So?
/r/MensRights29/11/23 05:58 AM
-3

Depends on who you ask. That’s why they are opinions.
/r/MensRights29/11/23 01:08 AM
-31

It’s just my personal opinion that it’s gross to want to get into a relationship with someone young enough to be your child.
/r/MensRights29/11/23 01:04 AM
-1

Yes?
/r/MensRights29/11/23 12:58 AM
3

Uhh, it’s not? That’s my point. It’s disgusting to me.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 11:18 PM
3

What are you talking about? I’m not doing anything.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 11:12 PM
0

I shame people who pursue people young enough to be their children.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 10:25 PM
-12

Dunno why you’re telling me this, dude.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 10:20 PM
-22

It’s just an opinion that I think he’s still gross when he still pursued someone half his age.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 10:10 PM
-60

I don’t see anywhere that states that she did. Edit: my mistake, I misread a sentence. He’s still gross, though.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 09:24 PM
-83

Forgive me if I have no sympathy for the dead pedo.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 09:21 PM
1

That’s why it was a question and not a statement. I’m asking op if her husband’s job makes an exception for women.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 09:18 PM
38

You’ll have to point to a school that allows female teachers to watch male students change and not vice versa. Same with moms vs dads chaperoning their children when they change. If you’re simply talking about the social stigma, then you’re basically asking why people have opinions and feelings on the matter. Which is a pointless question.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 09:16 PM
1

I don’t know what this means. Is there an issue with how headlines about heroes are written?
/r/MensRights28/11/23 06:59 PM
2

I think extreme views can only be tackled under extreme circumstances. Looking at WW2, I personally don’t feel anything short of global conflict would have stopped the rise of such hatred and propaganda. No one was going to debate nazi ideals out of existence. It could have only gone one way.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 06:57 PM
5

Get your ass in male spaces. You’re doing a good thing. If every dollar funded comes from dudes, that’s still good.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 06:53 PM
0

And I asked how?
/r/MensRights28/11/23 06:22 PM
1

I get that. What I didn’t get was whether op wanted all men to be called good for the good things and bad for the bad things. Op answered me, though.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 05:09 PM
1

Op has already explained to me that they are cool with people lumping men together as dangerous or most of the criminal population (since it’s fact) and that they just want men to answer be lumped together for doing good, too. That being said, I don’t think military protectors are ignored. Law enforcement is a bit contentious at the moment, but not military. If you don’t agree, please tell me how you’d like to see them recognized in ways that don’t already exist.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 05:03 PM
3

Well I was asking op about her husband’s situation since she brought this specific situation here.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 04:54 PM
-2

How would you want to see such celebrations then? I ask because I can’t think of a way that isn’t already done.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 04:28 PM
18

This is ridiculous. Making room for alternatives didn’t remove standard masculinity. If you want manly men, that’s still there. There’s just a bunch of other stuff, too, because we are making room for it. Before, that feminine, pretty boy stuff wasn’t allowed a platform for a long time or was only allowed a very niche platform.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 04:10 PM
189

Does his workplace allow women to grieve? Because that’s what would make this a men’s rights issue; if women can but men can’t. But it just sounds like he works for assholes. Not sexist assholes.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 04:03 PM
-2

You can’t have it both ways. Do you want the male gender to take credit for doing most of a thing (good or bad) or not?
/r/MensRights28/11/23 03:58 PM
-1

No, I’m saying that, in order to deem yourself popular, you have to compare your numbers to that of other popular outlets, which the nationalpost did not do. Because, if it did, you’d see how it pales in comparison to actual popular news outlets. This is why it’s not ranked. That’s what it means to be popular.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 03:04 PM
-1

It’s not. I also find it funny that your proof that the national post is popular is a citation from the national post lol.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 02:59 PM
-6

It’s funny how you ask me to do this after referring to a “news” platform that isn’t popular. It’s not even ranked. Still, here ya go. https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/25/entertainment/gilmore-girls-scott-patterson/index.html
/r/MensRights28/11/23 02:47 PM
0

So…then you are okay with people thinking most criminals are men then?
/r/MensRights28/11/23 02:43 PM
-3

What differences am I supposed to be spotting when I google these two terms exactly? Because when I did, I got pictures of very attractive men and women and I got articles explaining the problems with objectifying men and women. Where’s the double standard?
/r/MensRights28/11/23 02:42 PM
3

I am extremely curious what mainstream body positivity about dick size looks like to you..
/r/MensRights28/11/23 01:54 PM
-4

Uhhh…no? Because then you’re asking for credit for something you as an individual haven’t done. What you should want is to not be lumped in with either. That’s fair AND accurate.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 01:47 PM
-16

That’s not what I asked, though.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 01:42 PM
-19

Wait, I’m confused. Is the issue the inability to get lumped in with some brave men? Or is the issue simply being lumped in with bad man? Because, if it’s the former, that’s crazy talk. Someone else doing a selfless thing has nothing to do with you. And if it’s the latter, that’s not a man thing. That’s with everything and everyone. Just on this sub alone, how many times do “women” get lumped in as awful and selfish when someone spies a few hypocritical or toxic posts they don’t like?
/r/MensRights28/11/23 01:35 PM
-24

I dunno, dude. I think you’re grasping. Pretty sure men are praised for doing these things you listed. I don’t ever see videos of men saving lives not getting credit for it. These individuals are always praised for their bravery and selflessness. I’m honestly not sure what you’re expecting.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 01:30 PM
1

I will never understand why something as personal as the duties within a relationship needs the approval of people on the outside in the first place. No one is forcing guys to do these things just like no one is forcing women to do maid work. If you don’t want to be solely responsible for these things in the household, make that clear to any prospective partners no matter what gender. If that leads to fewer dates or being single, so be it. Stop treating this topic as if you couldn’t possibly hav…
/r/MensRights28/11/23 01:03 PM
-6

The way you present this makes it look like you believe women are a hive mind who collectively believe certain things are okay. Just like with men, that’s not how opinions work. People who defend the existence of toxic things are obviously going to be more vocal than those who don’t because they are more invested in the conversation. So it’s going to look like “most women” are okay with a thing. As far as your question is concerned when it comes to why some women think it’s okay to objectify men…
/r/MensRights28/11/23 12:53 PM
34

People don’t make a lot of room for things that make them uncomfortable in a world of individualism, and I don’t think that’s changing soon. Your best bet is probably to realize that, of the people who are put off by things about yourself you cannot change, they will cease to care or even think about it once they leave your presence. So, I feel like it’s safe for you to try your very best to do the same. Making others uncomfortable may not be pleasant, but I promise you, that discomfort does not…
/r/MensRights28/11/23 01:29 AM
11

Yea, I’m just thinking of all of those hitchhiking experiences that end poorly.
/r/MensRights27/11/23 11:29 PM
-1

Occasionally. Not to discuss topics like POWs or anything like that. Comes up while doing other, more fun things like playing games.
/r/MensRights26/11/23 09:50 PM
-14

Depends. I know women who don’t care about the tragic lives of any soldier from a time where women weren’t allowed to enlist (or only enlist for certain jobs). Why glorify men for things women weren’t allowed to do? Edit: Please don’t hate the messenger. I’m just answering his question.
/r/MensRights26/11/23 06:02 PM
1

He specifically stated he wanted them to be seen as equal. I don’t know what other evidence you need or why you’re trying to twist this into some manipulation tactic. That is literally what he said.
/r/MensRights26/11/23 01:13 PM
19

I’ve come to realize it’s not the rate at which something awful is happening that matters. All that matters is public perception of the problem and its victims. So, pointing out the frequency in which something happens to men doesn’t matter if public perception is unsympathetic towards men. The second you figure out how to make the general public feel for men, you be sure to let everyone here know.
/r/MensRights26/11/23 12:15 AM
1

Uh, no the author wants to criminalize it the same way marital rape is criminalized specifically so that they are treated equally. So, yea, jail time. If you get jailed for one and not the other, that defeats the author’s whole point about it.
/r/MensRights25/11/23 09:04 PM
1

Grounds for separation and divorce? Sure. Jail time? Just for not being in the mood enough? His whole article is supposed to be about how certain rules are making it harder for women and men to enter into relationships but, ironically, criminalizing this would make it even harder for the sexes to want to be in a relationship with being arrested for having/developing a low libido being a legitimate threat.
/r/MensRights25/11/23 06:18 PM
13

The easiest way to protect yourself is minimize the time you spend online.
/r/MensRights24/11/23 10:01 PM
1

That’s not what he said, and that’s all I’m critiquing by pointing it out.
/r/MensRights24/11/23 08:19 PM
-2

Lots of women are accused of being chronically online I promise you.
/r/MensRights24/11/23 06:46 PM
12

Okay, this guy said…a lot…but “withholding sex, affection, and intimacy [within a marriage] should be criminalized” since marital rape is criminalized is a doozy.
/r/MensRights24/11/23 01:49 PM
1

I have to disagree that society is completely silent about how obsessive social media damages women. The news loves to talk about how “instagram addiction” is hurting young people and, even though people use platforms like Twitter, instagram, TikTok, etc, these platforms are almost universally considered garbage. Addictive garbage. Most people talk shit about the very platforms they can’t quit.
/r/MensRights24/11/23 02:49 AM
36

They’ll just say “black men” and suddenly that sentence becomes okay. It doesn’t matter anyway. The second you start talking about who has it worse is the second someone dismisses whatever argument you were trying to make as an attempt to win the struggle Olympics.
/r/MensRights23/11/23 10:33 PM
62

After giving soldiers helmets, the number of soldiers returning home with head injuries increased dramatically which, to some, was evidence that the helmets weren’t working. In fact, the opposite was true. Helmets were preventing head injuries from automatically being fatal, thus the influx of injured rather than dead.
/r/MensRights21/11/23 05:08 PM
1

Well I personally wouldn’t even begin to know how to engage with the various problems men are having on an individual level or even if engaging is the correct thing to do. The problems are so personal after all. If a man is feeling lost and unsure on what it means to be a man, I can’t teach him how. Same for if a man is feeling lonely or lacks companionship. I could maybe tell him what I’d like to see more in men, but men tend not to want to hear that. So what, if anything, can I say to men who …
/r/MensRights21/11/23 03:50 PM
5

You’re obviously not going to get every man on board but, considering the sheer number of lonely, suicidal, fragile men in need of help, I feel like there are enough men out there who are empathetic to the idea that, for their own sakes, a strong support system built for men by men is what men need now more than ever.
/r/MensRights21/11/23 12:55 AM
0

All the more reason for it to just be all men’s social priority to put each other’s mental health first because no one else will. It seems so obvious yet still so difficult to take any steps towards. But that is the solution so that people like op never ever have to deal with that again.
/r/MensRights21/11/23 12:41 AM
2

This is a problem/question only men can answer/solve. Only men understand how difficult or easy it is to be this accommodating for one another and just how important that is. But the first step (at least to me) seems to be making that everyone here’s personal mission. It’s got to start somewhere.
/r/MensRights21/11/23 12:39 AM
1

Oh, of course. In an ideal world, everyone would be there for everyone. But everyone hear seems to understand that the only ones who are going to look out for men are other men. Men know how it feels to have very little support and feel invisible and undervalued, so it only makes sense that, when a man in hurting, other men should be first in line to help him, ya know?
/r/MensRights21/11/23 12:24 AM
35

You sound like good people, and I’ll never understand why what I’m about to say gets so much flack from men especially, but guys in spaces such as this really need to prioritize establishing a strong network of emotional support for one another when this happens. A man reaches out for help, and it’s just crickets. Since women are in no rush to come to a man’s aid in this particular context, men owe it to one another to prioritize one another when this happens. Men make up half of the world. Men …
/r/MensRights21/11/23 12:16 AM
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