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If society at large encouraged men to fake make out or whatever then more lads would be getting off to gay porn. One would assume that because women are not only allowed more sexual freedom in this sense, but it’s also actively encouraged by some men, it fudges the notion a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:50 PM
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Well first I would say that in the same way that not all red pillers are teenage incels boys desperate for attention not all blue pillers are Destiny. It seems quite the reach to take one example and inflate that to something like a universal generalisation. Secondly I would say that most relationships aren’t in the public sphere in the same way this example is and that we have no real understanding of what actually transpired between the two individuals concerned. Lastly I would point out that …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 11:18 PM
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That’s not as exhaustive a list as it seems. For example, both people could have chosen to focus on their careers instead of pursuing a relationship until they were in their 30’s. That isn’t necessarily a red flag. What about someone who was never married but in a long term relationship that didn’t work out? What about someone whose partner died? What about someone who has been through a rough patch but is over the worst of it and whose life is back on track? You can’t boil all these situations …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:23 PM

Breaking news: After using a dating app where people post pictures of themselves to get a date, man concludes all women everywhere get less physically attractive as they age. All jokes aside though, you realise how deranged that sounds?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:16 PM
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Stop watching that kind of content. No one is obliged to do anything for someone else, and it literally doesn’t matter what they ‘bring to the table’ or how much they can provide for the other person. What does matter is creating an equal playing field so that both of you can benefit from the relationship. Some times it will lean more towards you, other times towards them. If you really care about someone it doesn’t matter if they are a millionaire or a penniless street bum.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:28 AM
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Context matters so much here. You can’t say that at all times men aren’t allowed to do this or that because that’s stupid and really unhealthy. If I’m talking to my partner about what turns me on, it’s to my benefit to talk about my kinks. If I’m talking with a friend I’ve had for years I can use whatever humour I want as she knows what I find funny and what she finds funny. Men’s desires do matter and they are important. It’s about how these desires are communicated rather than what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:21 AM
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Once upon a time I ended up getting coffee with a girl who was a friend of a friend. That coffee turned into us spending most of the day together. At the end of evening she pretty much forced her number on me and text me before I’d even made it back home. She took the initiative and that resulted in me knowing she was interested in something more. Today, that girl is my wife. It’s not always about who makes the first move. The only reason our relationship is so strong is more to do with both of …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 09:13 PM
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I think it depends on who you are talking to. I have little interest in sports for example, and I’d much rather discuss things like politics or pop culture. To some people, politics is boring, as is pop culture, so they probably would find me boring. However, there are a lot of people I know who aren’t overly interested in sports either and are interested in the same kind of things as me. They don’t tend to find me boring. The thing is, you can’t appeal to everyone. Every person has their own in…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 03:45 PM
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I mean, when I lost my virginity it was with someone I’d been in a relationship with for a while. She was a virgin too and we spoke about it a lot before we committed to it. At the time I wasn’t thinking about getting ‘practice’ in, I was thinking about wanting to take the next step in my relationship. Sadly that relationship didn’t work out (we were teenagers, and wanted to take different paths in life) but I never have looked back her or our relationship as anything other than a good relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 10:07 AM
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Sorry is your complaint that your male friends hang out with their girlfriends when they’re asked to?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 09:43 PM
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Are you trying to say that men can’t buy reasonably nice clothes that fit properly, go to the barbers for a decent haircut, do some basic level hygiene and take a little bit of time to put themselves together before heading out the door? Because if so that makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:37 AM
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I think that men should be able to turn to male friends for emotional support and not just actionable solutions. The suggestion from the women you speak of is a good one, but only because friendships between women are different than they are between men. Women tend to allow themselves to be vulnerable around each other. They can express themselves and feel heard without fear of being ridiculed. Men, on the other hand, have a harder time expressing themselves and being vulnerable around each othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 09:41 AM

Whilst there might be an aspect of jealousy involved a lot of the time people react angrily to men behaving in ways that don’t deem to be masculine. For example, Piers Morgan called out Daniel Craig for wearing a papoose. It’s not like Piers Morgan doesn’t have money, height, etc. he just reacted against something that didn’t conform to his version of what masculine means.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:04 AM

Is it masculine to play barbie dolls with your daughter? Is it masculine to stay at home whilst your wife works? Is it masculine to wear certain types of clothes/colours? Is it masculine to get emotional over a film or a tv show? If you take issues with anything like this you are promoting a toxic version masculinity. A lot of the rhetoric comes from men calling out other men for not being ‘manly enough’ or some other variant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:52 AM
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This links to a tweet. What is the original source?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:31 AM
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Maybe, but she lived around Croydon. If we go by what you said, that’s even more reason for women like her, from the same area, to have their guard up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:54 AM
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Difference there is you can tell between a lion and a domestic house cat fairly easily. Men who might attack women and men who wouldn’t look more or less the same. For self preservation you can see why a woman might treat all men as potentially harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:48 PM
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Because it’s an easy job for a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:10 PM
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I’d love to see what statistics you are using to justify your claim. You made a sweeping generalisation, I presented a case to counter your generalisation and now I’m dumb? I don’t think you get how this works.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:43 AM
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And yet we have male pornstars and onlyfans models…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:40 AM

I understand what you mean. But I’m discussions like this on internet forums I think the concept of ‘average’ is problematic as what is average to me as an British person is different from how a Japanese person might conceive of average, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:39 AM
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First, I’m a guy. Second, my dad walked out on his family, leaving my mum to raise two kids on her own. Tell me again how women have less accountability?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:37 AM
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This take is hot trash. Not everyone is so materialistic. Women aren’t always looking to consume everything around them like that. What can a man bring to a relationship, even if they aren’t rich or whatever? Loads of things. They can be supportive, share the good and the bad times, have similar interests, just be likeable, or maybe they just compliment the woman in question in terms of their personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:30 AM
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Relationships can just happen sometimes. When I met my wife I had no idea that she was the girl I was going to end up dating, let alone marry. We just went out for coffee one day and things progressed from there. There isn’t a one size fits all answer to this kind of question. Every couple has a different origin story. Some of my friends who are together now met in class, some were the result of hookups, some were through dating sites. Most commonly though the relationships that tend to last are…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:22 AM
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There are a million examples of men leaving their families for one reason or another though. That’s a really bad example.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:15 AM
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The issue I have with stuff like this is that the whole concept of ‘average’ is really hard to define.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:11 AM
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This is framed quite poorly. Technically men are monetising sex just as much as women are. They are the ones paying for it after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 07:42 AM
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Because they love the people they are marrying?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 01:31 PM
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Even I grant you that premise, which I don’t think is entirely accurate as many people from poor backgrounds and with lower IQ scores reproduce all the time, that is a societal trend and not something that is being pushed on people by those in positions of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 06:33 AM
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Doesn’t read that way to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 02:59 PM
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Genetic load has nothing to do with evolution. Nor does people tending towards being in relationships with other people of their own race. That tendency is more because of cultural expectations and ability to understand each other than biology. Eugenics becomes racist when it says things like “only people with above X amount of IQ should be allowed to breed and then in the next breath claim that people in third world countries (aka non-white people) clearly have lower IQ’s. The implication being…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 02:59 PM
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Evolution is about any given species adapting to its environment in order to survive. It doesn’t matter if a species is smart or good looking it matters whether it can survive in its environment. Eugenics however presupposes that there is a certain standard that must be met in order to allow for people to procreate. These standards are at best arbitrary and at worst racist. They are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:23 AM
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This sounds like one step away from a eugenics argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:38 PM
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Have you considered actually asking a woman what she finds attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 08:39 PM
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You can’t really believe this. You can’t just tarnish every single woman with the same brush. Some like tall and muscular men. Some like dad bods. Some even like shorter lads. Much in the same way that guys like all kinds of girls. Your entire argument is reductionist to a ridiculous degree. People like who they like. You are hyper fixated on initial attraction and not on how relationships work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:18 PM
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Name five sports that are more ‘masculine’.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 09:09 AM
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Oh, well your problem is that you are treating women like another species and not as people. Why do you like hot air ballooning? What about that specifically makes it a male gendered thing? Why can’t a woman be interested in it for the same reasons as you are? It’s got nothing to do with the ‘glass ceiling’ or whatever other buzzwords you want to use, and a lot more to do with people participating in something they enjoy doing and are passionate about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 09:07 AM

It’s not politically incorrect to tell someone you are attracted to them. It’s how you go about that and how you handle being potentially rejected that matters. Back when I was dating, before I met my wife, if I met someone I was attracted to I would usually be honest about it so that everything was clear and no one misread the situation. If they said ‘oh, thanks, but I’m not interested’ I would thank them for being honest, ask how they wanted to proceed and if they wanted to continue being frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 08:19 AM
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So you’re complaining that women are also interested in hot air ballooning and that you have to accommodate them? Wouldn’t it be better if more people were interested in it so you could meet more people who share your passion, or are you just here to whine about a girl in your Boys club?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 08:12 AM
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Being able to say to a partner something like ‘I’m struggling with this’ or ‘I feel this way about such and such’ is wildly different from being an over emotional wreck though. Different people express themselves differently and in turn respond to other people’s emotions differently. There isn’t one way of expressing yourself that is right. However it is also the case that having emotional breakdowns every five minutes isn’t exactly healthy either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 08:07 AM

‘Female nature’ You know, because all women are the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 10:08 PM
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Gender is a social construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:34 AM
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Women are wary of men because they don’t want to sexually assaulted or raped .
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 02:17 PM
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IQ tests have a horrible history of cultural bias, and are tests created by people. As such if you know the kind of strategies that are being tested for you can apply them to any given IQ test and pump up your score on them. They are not objective measures of some ethereal quality humans possess called ‘intelligence’. They are subjective to the creators who made them, the culture they are aimed at, as well as the person tallying the scores at the end and reading the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 12:33 PM
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I mean both the concept of IQ and the concept of Alpha’s are literal nonsense. A good partnership rests on both partners providing equal value to the partnership. What form that value takes is subject to change as all partnerships are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 07:38 AM
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Read that hyperlink again. ‘50% less likely to have casual sex’. That doesn’t mean they aren’t having sex at all. It just means they don’t tend to sleep around as much. Maybe they prefer the relationships they have with their gamer friends over trying to pick up random people? Maybe they have long term committed relationships so they can spend time playing games instead of pursuing other relationships? Maybe they play games with their partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 07:31 AM
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Broadly speaking most people don’t like it when other people they aren’t romantically attracted to become obsessed with them. The problem with your argument here is that you are describing two very different situations. One where a woman is actively interested in pursuing a more intimate relationship with someone else and one where a woman is just going about with her life and is constantly faced with someone else’s feelings. I’m other words, when a man is pursuing a woman and the woman isn’t in…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 07:25 AM
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Prejudice against what exactly? Aren’t you guilty of doing the same by labelling any woman you consider to be less attractive with certain personality traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 09:52 PM

I’m going to say this as bluntly as I can. If you’re invoked in human trafficking and rape allegations chances are your ‘technique’ doesn’t work. If it did you wouldn’t need to do either of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:06 AM
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Making sweeping statements like this is highly problematic. People don’t fit into the categories you want to put them into. A few anecdotal pieces of evidence are not enough to justify your claim here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:37 AM
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It’s not a fixed scale though. It’s not like you have to give it 100% all the time. Same for your partner. They are moments when you are going through a rough patch at work something and your partner will help shoulder the burden. Conversely there are moments when the reverse also happens. Broadly speaking people in committed relationships tend to put as much into it as their partners do, but that doesn’t mean they are necessarily putting the same amount of love and energy into it all the time. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 08:53 AM
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Alternatively the two people in the relationship could actually talk about their feelings and if one or the other is feeling insecure then their partner could find a compromise that would help them feel more comfortable. You can make up any given scenario, but in reality relationships are built on communication. If both parties are of reasonable emotional intelligence then they can accept their partner feeling insecure about something without it blowing up out of proportion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 08:37 AM
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That’s a false dichotomy if I’ve ever heard one
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 08:32 AM
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