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realvmouse/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 06:55 AM
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What about this is a left perspective? It sounds like a typical reality-rejecting conservative. Your blog seems to confirm this, using the standard conservative trop of "neither left nor right" while being obviously right-wing. Edit: I don't know why I came here. I didn't even read the sidebar; now that i have, it seems like pretty standard reactionary stuff to me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/23 08:24 PM
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This just in: exercise makes you feel better! This verifies the red pill belief system! But new habits are hard to change and many people don't stick with them.
/r/TheRedPill06/09/22 07:21 PM
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99% of RP generalizations are explained by their terrible choice of social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 02:35 AM
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"different people succeeding on different platforms proves that women are bad."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 11:04 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 03:47 PM
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Haaahahahahaha This is so stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 08:32 PM
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Solid
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:58 PM
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Back in the days before RP or even the internet you used to hear the old salts all the time tell young men who asked, "women will fuck you up if you let them." Or they'd say, "Don't chase, it ain't worth it" and the younger guys would be like yeah, right, keep being bitter old men or whatever. Yes, every account of the old days I've ever read sounds just ... like... what? The fuck is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 10:15 AM
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the seven-year itch and hormonal cycles that have been clearly established as fact hold out; ...It's kind of hard to argue that one, even for BP. Or... not so hard... because you literally just make up bullshit and repeat it until you believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 10:13 AM
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It's named "purple pill" and attracts red pill people and people who are willing to interact with red pill people. Red pill means, almost by definition, men who are not functional as relationship partners. Unfortunately, they exist in real life too, but the percentage is very high here and while unfortunately high in the real world, it's not AS high.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 08:04 PM
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waahhhhhh i swallowed the blackpill wahhhhhhh
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 08:01 PM
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This sounds like bullshit you just made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 08:00 PM
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You have to be dumber than rocks to argue that the justice system was perverted by feminism. Heh, and just look at your reaction. You're already mad, you're reaching for your statistics and anecdotes about how unfair the system is towards men. What you're not doing is activating your brain to note that the court system has always been more lenient towards women, even when feminism didn't exist, even when 100% of judges, lawyers, lawmakers, and police were men, even when women couldn't vote or ow…
/r/PussyPassDenied08/12/21 05:01 PM
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>Women's pussies dry up like... Gosh, but you aren't interested in casual sex from women! You're interested in an LTR. Is this an irreversible condition? >nothing gets a woman wetter Are you hoping she'll be constantly wet throughout that LTR? Sounds like you're looking for a woman with an STD. You think you're interested in an LTR, but what you want is an LTR with a fleshlight. Anyway. Everything of value has been said. Anyone worth talking to can clearly see that there's nothing to Insidious's…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 07:25 PM
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I confess, it was pretty obvious you would disagree about casual sex/multiple partners. The problem is, nothing you are saying is true about women in long-term relationships. It *may* apply to a shallow hookup scene, but it absolutely does not apply to most women in most situations. So the problem you're defining is that you have a limited understanding of others, and have a negative attitude towards women and men who think differently from you. The solution is for you to stop doing what is emot…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 05:17 AM
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I'm not sure we're going to even agree on what the problem is or what the intention of solving it is. You boiled this down to seeking multiple sexual partners. I don't know that I saw attaining frequent casual sex as the intended goal, nor did I see the lack of it as the problem. You also oddly stated a premise that is counter to the premises that were tacitly agreed to for us to reach this point in the conversation-- that women claim to want emotional men. Can you clear some of these things up …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 03:54 AM
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I just hope the men in this thread don't get tunnel vision over these issues. I think they're real, they're important, and they need to be addressed. But guess what? Men also didn't help the man on the bench. While you are here writing about the problem, you seem reasonable and hey, maybe you are. It's when you turn this around and blame the problems on women or feminism that suddenly you're fighting against your interests rather than for a solution. Or when you proudly argue that this system be…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 07:31 PM
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I only read the first sentence of your comment. I made it clear in my original comment that a major reason I was dismissing OP as a misogynist is that he laments the loss of MGTOW (literally in the headline of this submission). So if you didn't catch that when you started whining about how I call everyone a misogynist for no reason, it's your own fault that you're literally not even paying attention to the words you're replying to. Reply and let me know you're paying attention now and that you u…
/r/MensRights09/08/21 12:50 AM
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Man talks about an issue that he faces that is either directly caused by or endorsed by feminists Your issues aren't caused by feminists, except the loss of privileges you used to have over women. Sorry :( I would take people like you more seriously if you could bare hearing men talk about their issues for one minute before calling everything misogyny. Good news is I don't really want misogynists taking me seriously. But to be clear, I'm quite happy over at r/menslib (I'm done worrying, you'll b…
/r/MensRights09/08/21 12:33 AM
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lol did I just prevent you from speaking? If calling misogyny misogyny is preventing you from engaging in it, then I'm happy to do it!
/r/MensRights08/08/21 11:42 PM
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You're not gonna hear it from the people here, but these groups are banned because they are reactionary, anti-feminist groups only using "support for men" as a superficial justification for their misogyny. There is a very large men's support subreddit that flourishes and has good relations with women on Reddit. I'm not linking it because everyone here is pure trash and would only make it worse, but if you're generally wanted support as a man, I recommend you search around for it. But if what you…
/r/MensRights08/08/21 04:07 PM
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I don't know about proving you wrong, but you continue to prove me right.
/r/MensRights27/07/21 12:26 AM
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Was there a part of this article in the Guardian that made your comment ("It obvious that feminists doesn't see white men as people.") a reasonable reply? I understand you think feminism is bad, and I haven't bothered to challenge that conclusion. I only pointed out that your reaction doesn't make sense as a reasonable response to what's in this article. Does that make sense? Do you see the difference? Did something in this article illustrate that feminists don't see men as people? Can you direc…
/r/MensRights26/07/21 11:08 PM
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This post is an article about women's groups supporting the drafting of women, while white conservative men argue women shouldn't fight in wars. This is your response? To blame feminists? Do you maybe see an issue with how you reacted here? No? Just me?
/r/MensRights26/07/21 07:53 AM
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Gosh why does no one take men's rights seriously when they're so focused on fighting for equality? Can you believe people can dismiss them as just a bunch of misogynists? Unbelievable! Where do they get that idea? Anyway keep up the good fight!
/r/MensRights26/07/21 07:52 AM
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It's exactly as feminists have been saying for decades now. Women's groups are trying to fight a patriarchal system that says men are the ones fit to take on danger and defend the country. Meanwhile, conservative men are opposing those efforts, reinforcing patriarchal gender norms. In other words, you aren't seeing something society doesn't see. In reality you're frustrated due to your closest political allies. As usual, republicans are working against the interest of their constituents, but the…
/r/MensRights26/07/21 07:49 AM
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I mean it's a dumb, weak argument, but yeah. Technically true.
/r/MensRights19/07/21 09:23 PM
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Lol "Men do this" "No they don't." "Yes they do, it's silly to deny it." "OH SO YOU'RE BLAMING MEN FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS TO YOU?" I love that this comment, which comes out of nowhere, is entirely inappropriate as a reply, and makes no sense in this conversation, is +11 only because it satisfies the desire of the misogynists here to be angry at a woman.
/r/MensRights18/07/21 07:21 PM
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plus if we take into the rare times they send nudes with the link This is thoroughly addressed in my first comment. Yes, in the extremely rare case that you get a photo of a fully nude woman's genitals on social media when you are not already browsing porn, we can agree that is comparable to receiving a dick pic when you're not already looking at porn. This should be stopped. Of course it almost never happens, and dick pics are common, but yes, when it happens, it's an issue. We agree. ​ >but ev…
/r/MensRights17/07/21 12:12 AM
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lol it was a scam ​ i love that you not only failed to see that at the time, foolishly responding to it (which got you on a list for more like it), but that you also still don't realize it when someone tells you
/r/MensRights16/07/21 08:39 PM
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No one said you want ads. What I said was that when someone on social media sends a picture of their dick, it is a mild form of sexual assault, while when someone sends you an advertisement, it is just an annoying piece of spam. It's litteraly the same scenario it's just what's being sent is different. Now there's an insight.
/r/MensRights16/07/21 08:07 PM
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I don't like spam ads, so I'd be annoyed if you sent me any ads, for dick photos or used cars. Seems like the people screaming here are OP and you. You're really just mad about only fans because of your moral views, and want to justify your emotions with some kind of argument. It's just that you came up with a shit one, keep trying.
/r/MensRights16/07/21 07:16 PM
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At first I thought you were making fun of MRAs, but now I realize you actually are asking this. No. That's a fucking stupid question. OnlyFans requests are just ads. Literally the same thing you deal with all day every day from websites, TV, radio, etc. If they don't involve a graphic sexual photo, then they're not comparable to the dick pic. Only a fraction of onlyfans invites come with graphic photos, unless you're actively browsing a porn site where all of the ads are pornographic and you're …
/r/MensRights16/07/21 07:34 AM
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AAAAahahahahah Long intro about society "They called names so I jumped in and called them worse names! I'm surprised this wasn't tolerated at work!" So many people don't understand how a professional environment operates. Do you know what would have happened if you'd kept your dumbass mouth shut and talked to HR? They'd be getting some kind of slap on the wrist. But you have the maturity of a 12-year old. And this is your own version of the story, which of course is biased in your favor. We can …
/r/MensRights13/07/21 11:07 PM
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Then defeat the enemy by not getting worked into a hissy fit over it.
/r/MensRights12/07/21 01:30 PM
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Key weakness to your argument is that you're allowing your opinion of individual feminists or feminist groups to inform your feelings towards the broad ideology of feminism. Most feminists aren't radical and don't hate men, and you don't let PETA define what animal rights means to you. By the way, you must think we're stupid if you think we'll believe those were the actual, literal words of PETA, but I get that it makes the story better.
/r/MensRights11/07/21 08:15 PM
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Read my comment and you'll see this reply makes no sense.
/r/MensRights11/07/21 05:37 PM
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I don't think you put "this much thought" into it. It's a dishonest tactic that comes naturally with practice. Unless you're going to agree that there is no comparison at all in the scope of the problems you're trying to equate?
/r/MensRights11/07/21 05:36 PM
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If you ever read it let me know if you can refute any of it! Have a good weekend.
/r/MensRights11/07/21 01:08 AM
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Nope! That is literally a fact that I used in my own argument. Did you miss reading my comments?
/r/MensRights10/07/21 09:32 PM
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:D This is great. Thanks for a laugh.
/r/MensRights10/07/21 09:01 PM
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It seems like a more reasonable argument is "Women sending unsolicited nude genital pics is just as disrespectful as men sending unsolicited nude genital pics." It seems like you've intentionally conflated text-based invites with photos as a motte-and-bailey argument. In other words, here among other MRAs you want people to silently accept the assertion that all invites are just as bad as dick pics, and because invites are so common, you want to make it sound like there is an equally strong prob…
/r/MensRights10/07/21 07:12 PM
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This is how conservatives form every opinion: a headline and a strong emotion.
/r/MensRights24/06/21 04:15 AM
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Edit: my original comment was removed by automod because of the many links I shared, apparently one unspecified link is to a website not allowed. Here it is without the links: It seems like this is the most common type of reply I get on here. Person 1: "A, therefore B." Me: "That's not really a good argument, A doesn't lead to B for these reasons." Person 1 or another MRA: "Yes huh A does lead to B because C and D lead to B!" Me: trying to figure out how to explain that calling feminism bad for …
/r/MensRights22/06/21 05:31 PM
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But after all of this, look how successful you were. I made one small observation: "this article generalized the views of all women from interviewing one anonymous nurse, how can you use it to criticize all of feminism?" That's a simple observation, an accurate one, and really, it shouldn't take any effort to make or defend it. It's a small housekeeping thing, a way to make sure the debate here remains honest. It's something that should be welcomed by critical thinkers on both sides. And your re…
/r/MensRights22/06/21 05:16 PM
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Notably absent from the article, at least in terms of the conclusions people on this page are drawing, is any interview with a feminist. They did interview a single female nurse who wanted to remain anonymous. "The reservation is however, welcomed by female nurses. “Unemployment scenario is equal for men and women. In the field of nursing, women have played a much larger and important role. What is wrong in earmarking 80 per cent nursing jobs for female nurses? It would definitely improve the qu…
/r/MensRights22/06/21 12:01 AM
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my god
/r/MensRights21/06/21 07:01 PM
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My point is exactly as I stated in my first comment, and it was obvious, and if you were anything but a mind-poisoned emotion-fueled nonthinking bot, you'd have no question about what my point is. OP said this, and I quote: "Acknowledging it would require admitting a certain bias against males in law enforcement, which goes against the narrative that women are oppressed and the patriarchy is evil.Facts do not matter to these people. Only the narrative is important." In fact, OP is entirely wrong…
/r/MensRights21/06/21 01:23 AM
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My god. Your brain is an empty zombie shell that just shambles in the same direction. You're not even listening. You're just saying "feminism bad, feminism bad, feminism bad." I'm not debating whether feminism is bad. I'm not saying feminists act in line with their beliefs. Those are two claims entirely irrelevant to any claim I'm making. They may be important to you; you may masturbate to them every night, or cry about them every morning, but they are not relevant to this debate. Do you notice …
/r/MensRights20/06/21 06:44 AM
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My comment was "this is literally feminism" and I never said "real" anything. Are any feminists saying the opposite? Your head is filled with memes. You immediately pulled this out, but it had no applicability. You're going on and on about why you don't like feminism. Again, all I'm saying is basic mainstream feminism isn't disproven by harsher prison sentences for men, and predicts it and provides a framework for understanding it. I didn't say "here let's debate the entirety of feminism." Hell,…
/r/MensRights19/06/21 10:28 PM
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That's kinda what I thought. Your point is "feminism bad" but it doesn't really connect back to my original comment in any way.
/r/MensRights19/06/21 09:10 PM
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I'm sorry, before we go any further can you tell me what your point is? Can you connect this back to "longer sentences for men doesn't disprove feminism, and is in fact acknowledged and even predicted by a feminist worldview?" The socratic method seems to be taking longer than just saying whatever it is you're upset about. For what it's worth, I'd say limiting rape to penetration would be a position very unpopular with many feminists.
/r/MensRights19/06/21 08:19 PM
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This seems like an entirely irrelevant "gotcha" question from a small-minded person who wants to make a mostly copypasta rant, but let's play ball. I am not here to pretend to know the mind of every feminist on every issue, so there is a limit to the degree that I am willing to speak for them. But the answer for most feminists, I would suspect, is that it depends entirely on what you think "gender neutral laws" are. Language that appears to be neutral often still creates biased outcomes. For exa…
/r/MensRights19/06/21 06:35 PM
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>So when men are put in jail longer than women, it's actually women being discriminated against. No, it's actually a result of society stereotyping or viewing men and women in different but unfair ways, in a mold described accurately by the feminist worldview. Both sexes are discriminated against by a patriarchal system in the feminist viewpoint, with effects that hurt both in different ways. It's only when opponents of feminism who have never tried to understand its claims but start from a posi…
/r/MensRights19/06/21 04:51 AM
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Is this meant to be a disagreement with my comment? I'm not really understanding how it contradicts my assertion that the feminist framework of patriarchy explains and predicts the higher rate of incarceration of males and harsher sentencing. To your first question, I don't know, and I'm not aware of any such societies, do you have an answer? To the second question, I would imagine two parents typically do a better job than one, and also extreme amounts of selection bias, as many people who are …
/r/MensRights19/06/21 12:28 AM
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What's interesting is you seem to be entirely ignoring the fact that every feminist would agree with this observation-- that part of patriarchal thinking is that men have more agency and are more accountable, and women are helpless and victims who are less accountable. You're ignoring those facts to promote your narrative that feminism is evil. Seriously. Talk to feminists. None of them will be surprised by this information, and it is exactly as predicted through the worldview of feminist/patria…
/r/MensRights19/06/21 12:02 AM
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>We all know of racial issues in the justice system Do we? It seems to me that the only time conservatives acknowledge this is when they're diminishing it to talk about an issue that affects white men (or arguing that minorities are arrested more because of their self-chosen culture). That said, I agree this is an issue that needs more attention.
/r/MensRights19/06/21 12:00 AM
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This sub self-selects. In theory there's nothing inherently sexist with advocating for men's rights. In practice, this sub is a disgusting cesspit of misogyny. Only misogynists remain here and defend the sub. Your sister likely didn't suddenly conclude you're sexist based only on this page. She likely knows you as a person and didn't hesitate to say that you're sexist based on a totality of evidence. But of course instead of having self-awareness, you've doubled down on the absurd opinion that t…
/r/MensRights26/05/21 03:02 PM
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I've always said total misogynists make ideal partners for women!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 08:21 PM
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Your school/parents didn't teach you "ask nicely, don't just take things? Don't hit? Don't push? Don't name-call?" I guess that explains a lot.
/r/MensRights19/04/21 11:43 PM
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Also OP: 'what do you mean men's rights is really a reaction to women demanding equality and was never about the rights of men?'
/r/MensRights19/04/21 08:35 PM
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But you will ;)
/r/MensRights20/03/21 04:54 AM
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Lol, I am so entertained by people who think there are formal rules of "burden of proof" outside of a court system. You're right, though. I should have just stated it without even discussing proof. I have no interest in debating it, and it's evident and obvious enough that I'm well aware people who would disagree haven't been paying attention. That's not an argument, just a fact.
/r/MensRights20/03/21 04:39 AM
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Then keep crying ;)
/r/MensRights20/03/21 12:21 AM
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Support equal paternity leave instead of tearing down maternity leave. ​ The loudest voices for paternity leave right now are feminists, and feel free to get angry about that statement but if you do, at least try and prove it wrong.
/r/MensRights19/03/21 10:53 PM
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If by "guys with taste" you mean guy who likes watery beer, ball caps, and comfortable practical jeans with maybe a couple nice practical cargo pockets, and gripes about liberals any time they get within 200 miles of the nearest city, then I agree 100%.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/03/21 09:37 PM
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I know right? I can't believe they'd mischaracterize his attempts to draw attention to mens' struggles on International Women's Day as trying to divert attention away from women!
/r/MensRights10/03/21 08:12 PM
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I love that every single time the meninists make this argument you get the exact same response, which you promptly ignore or forget: The reason your argument are met with hostility and lack of sympathy is they're almost always brought up in response to feminist concerns and with the intent of dismissing, discounting, or silencing feminists. And I love that you're about to deny it, despite the fact that this ENTIRE POST is about no one having sympathy when he brings up men's issues on Internation…
/r/MensRights10/03/21 07:48 PM
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That's what it is, sure. But you said you support it. Why should we have a day celebrating all things female, in your opinion?
/r/MensRights09/03/21 03:49 PM
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Okay, so by extension what should you dedicate most of your time to: bitching about feminism, or class issues? If you're going to complain that feminists are oppressing you so much that it stops you from focusing on class, then you have to acknowledge that if other groups feel they're being oppressed, it would stop them from talking about class. If you think they should talk about class regardless of whether they are oppressed or not, then shouldn't you do the same? If class should be at the for…
/r/MensRights09/03/21 06:13 AM
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You assert that the reason progress is not being made on these issues is because of a focus on racism, sexism, homophobia, and so on. Do you not see that all you're doing by participating in this sub is empowering the opponents of the class changes you want to see? You're literally the person making sure the far right stays agitated at basic social progress such that they oppose every one of the class issues you just mentioned. The same people who are pushing feminism are the ones who wanted Oba…
/r/MensRights09/03/21 04:22 AM
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Why do you support an international women's day? What purpose does it serve in your understanding?
/r/MensRights09/03/21 01:05 AM
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Perfectly relevant. Go ahead and share. Unless you actually don't give a shit about class struggle and just want to play pretend when it helps you have something else to whine about.
/r/MensRights08/03/21 11:44 PM
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So tell me what policies you're voting for. Same goes to the guy I asked. Tell me what policies you believe will address class issues, and tell me which politician you've voted for who would enact them.
/r/MensRights08/03/21 10:58 PM
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XD >America needs to stop focusing so much on identity politics as they're just covering up the main issue , class . But you just can't manage to speak up about class because of all the horrible oppression you suffer, is that it? Because it seems that all you do on Reddit is obsess about women and feminism, without any energy at all dedicated to class struggle. What steps would you like your nation to take to address class issues?
/r/MensRights08/03/21 10:11 PM
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No, but you've met your co-workers, some of whom have almost certainly had bumper stickers. But I understand there is no way to go back and check the accuracy of your memory, and I don't expect you to acknowledge the obvious and certain truth when you don't have to.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/03/21 08:00 PM
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Lol. I never said that made you a liar. I said you are a liar, and you're lying. You've definitely met engineers who had bumper stickers on their car and you just don't remember.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/03/21 07:28 PM
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Bullshit. You're literally lying. You're only thinking of political stickers. You know for a fact that some of your engineer friends have had the same stickers as those in my immediate family (3) -my son/daughter is an honor student -math/science academy they went to -college they went to
/r/PussyPassDenied06/03/21 05:02 AM
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Lol. The reason this sub appeals to incels like you is because you don't interact with other people enough to understand their motivations. Your reaction is appropriate for a woman who is being confrontational but thinking they can't be hit back because of societal rules. Your reaction is nonsense in a case like this, where her facial expression, laughter, and body language all make it perfectly clear that she isn't trying to get into a conflict and be protected by her gender, or that she was en…
/r/PussyPassDenied24/02/21 07:13 AM
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yeah literally read my first comment ;) Don't worry you'll figure out this comment thing beore long.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/12/20 04:33 AM
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you're literally wrong friend
/r/PussyPassDenied14/12/20 01:48 AM
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no one is dumb enough to genuinely think this is about bad grammar and spelling, sorry troll
/r/PussyPassDenied14/12/20 01:47 AM
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Lol. You don't seem to know what grammar is.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/12/20 07:41 PM
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No
/r/PussyPassDenied13/12/20 07:40 PM
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Ok
/r/PussyPassDenied13/12/20 07:47 AM
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YOU'RE THE REAL RACIST wait you already used that
/r/PussyPassDenied13/12/20 02:46 AM
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hahahHAAHAHA "no one in the "pussypassdenied" subreddit wants to hear racism criticized" SHOCK ERRRRRRRRRR
/r/PussyPassDenied13/12/20 02:18 AM
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I love this, someone who thinks "you're the real racist!" will convince someone who isn't also racist. It's cute, really.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/12/20 10:40 PM
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Nah. You saw a black person, didn't pay close enough attention to the video, and fucked up. Very weak attempt to cover up, but I'll at least give you credit for not doubling down and being proud of it when you were called out. The fact that you'll lie and make excuses instead of just admitting it and saying 'so what' tells me you have at least some redeeming qualities.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/12/20 06:10 PM
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Haha
/r/PussyPassDenied12/12/20 06:33 AM
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Lol no one uses 'da' in cheeseburger cat speak. You'd have said 'i haz pussy' I love that you think you're trolling here as if it's not 100% transparent
/r/PussyPassDenied12/12/20 06:33 AM
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Okay
/r/PussyPassDenied12/12/20 02:43 AM
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I would generally scroll past low-level racists but this just confuses me. You're using mock-ebonics to put words into the mouth of the white woman here?
/r/PussyPassDenied12/12/20 12:52 AM
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People expanding this comment, you can learn a lot from this technique above^ So first, let's state the obvious. Therascalrumpus knows, as you do and I do, exactly what I meant by my comment-- that active participants of this sub tend to be misogynists, even if they deny it, and that the commenter is therefore not an impartial judge of whether his STEM environment was misogynist. Okay, obviously that comment isn't calculated to reach people and change hearts or minds, and it wasn't meant to. It …
/r/PussyPassDenied12/10/20 11:05 PM
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This sub is a recruiting tool. https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g
/r/PussyPassDenied12/10/20 10:51 PM
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Hahahahahahahaha Says the guy commenting in r/pussypassdenied
/r/PussyPassDenied12/10/20 03:15 PM
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You're funny
/r/MensRights29/09/20 07:13 PM
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Wow you just refuted every instance of factors influencing human behavior with one simple trick! I recommend everyone here read two books: one, predictably irrational by Dan Ariely, and Beyond Freedom and Dignity by BF Skinner.
/r/MensRights29/09/20 02:21 PM
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Just to be clear, feminism has never claimed that individual men are masters of their own destiny. When talking about cultural influence, they are talking about factors that influence groups of people and impact average outcomes. The patriarchy in feminism is not about men actively participating it by choice, it's about a system built by men which has a variety of effects on men and women, hurting women more but hurting men in some ways, while favoring men more but occasionally benefitting women…
/r/MensRights29/09/20 01:48 AM
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Aww, don't like having your bullshit called out huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:13 PM
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Whatever you deserve gold anyway and I have some credit left to give. Glad you found the thread, I hadn't gotten around to linking to it yet!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 10:07 PM
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No no I don't expect gold, you weren't correcting me. I do expect you to hide in shame though, but only because that makes me feel powerful. I will definitely dedicate a thread to your brilliance though if you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 04:33 PM
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Well I'm already writing a post to r/grammar and if you're right I'll give you some gold as penance for my wrongheaded grammar correction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 04:19 PM
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FUCK THE AUTOMOD MOST OF ALL
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 04:12 PM
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x: doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 04:12 PM
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HEY FYI IT'S ACTUALLY WHO, NOT WHOM I know it seems like "whom" because you're thinking "who/whom" is the thing that gets fucked, therefore it's the object. But that's not it! In fact, it's an apposition with an omitted subject. You'd be better off thinking of it like "who is the person that should be fucked?" If that doesn't strike you as an adequate explanation, fall back to substituting other pronouns and see how it sounds in your head. "wait me should be fucked" vs "wait I should be fucked" …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 04:11 PM
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Too far man. Too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 03:58 PM
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<<< This guy right here: "personality is more important."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 07:09 AM
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I set my son up for failure and now I'm constantly worried that he'll fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 07:07 AM
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The hate has nothing to do with their "plight" if you can call it that, it's for self-identifying with a group whose ideology is pure hatred with a thin veneer of "realism."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 07:05 AM
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You act like this was done by woke liberals. This was done by NIMBYs in Glendale, wealthy gated-community types. It's reasonable to be upset by it, but not to use it to further your anger against feminists or progressives.
/r/MensRights01/10/19 02:19 PM
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"We have way more men than women so we're correcting that by hiring more women." THE SKY IS FALLLLING AND MY PENIS IS SHRINKING!!
/r/MensRights25/09/19 12:45 AM
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According to 3 fake accounts on r/fatpeoplestories and against all scientific evidence.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/09/19 03:23 PM
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Did you know every feminist agrees that women contribute to patriarchy, toxic masculinity, and harmful gender roles? Knowing that we all take this for granted should make you less certain that this fact somehow rebuts any feminist's particular argument.
/r/MensRights05/09/19 08:50 PM
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https://i.redd.it/6j8g3glv0sk31.jpg I glanced at one paragraph in particular: UH NO! it doesn't matter what he believes. Men should NOT feel obligated or happy to die like flies, men's lives matter JUST AS MUCH as Women's. Putting less value on one's life because you're a Man IS TOXIC. Let's rephrase what you just said, "if a woman is a doing horrible things to herself because she doesn't judge them as harmful, its positive femininity!" So... go back and read what I wrote. Did I say anything abo…
/r/MensRights05/09/19 08:36 PM
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Some of you might be interested in the upcoming Intelligence Squared discussion on the topic, which featured the former head of the ACLU. https://www.intelligencesquaredus.org/news/blog/american-hate-law-discourse-disrupters
/r/MensRights05/09/19 06:00 PM
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... which also is not corrupt in the normal sense of organizational corruption. Even your side's own reason.com article says their views 'evolved' as opposed to making a dramatic statement about 'corruption.' I understand you don't like the policy and can criticize it in many ways. I understand you disagree with them on what constitutes a civil liberty, and think they've caved in to political pressure. I understand you can say it in 100 ways. I'm not at all interested in the question of whether …
/r/MensRights05/09/19 07:41 AM
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No I get it, we're on the same page now. To most people "corrupt" means that they're, for example, being paid under the table by political interest groups-- that in some way, the individuals have been compromised. It doesn't surprise me in the least that you don't like the ACLU or what they're doing. That's a definition of "corrupt" that few would have used in this context, and I'm not really interested in debating whether the ACLU is good or bad with you, where if you prove they're "bad" then t…
/r/MensRights05/09/19 05:55 AM
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So "corrupt" in your head means "not having the right ideology"?
/r/MensRights05/09/19 04:02 AM
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Wait before we go much further, maybe I need to understand what definition of "corrupt" you're working with...
/r/MensRights05/09/19 02:09 AM
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Can you support this statement?
/r/MensRights04/09/19 11:11 PM
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I mean at this point we just have different ideas on how to improve society. I hope we at least agree that the concept of "toxic masculinity" is not somehow hindering us from improving society in the ways you mention.
/r/MensRights24/08/19 08:42 PM
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Lots of things we can do, but I'm a little uncertain what they have to do with toxic masculinity. The view that men must be breadwinners, and the circumstance that many women do not get paid leave and many men do not get paternal leave, contribute in a very large way to the disproportionate state. The societal encouragement for men to take risks contributes. And the general disregard we have for the importance and protection of labor is important. The idea that we need to "shame" anyone into doi…
/r/MensRights24/08/19 08:06 PM
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Your question is whether feminists believe we should shame women? Do I have that right? You'll find feminists are mostly liberal people who believe that miners deserve workplace protections, by the way. And as far as how to get people to behave altruistically, I see no reason that should be a gender issue.
/r/MensRights24/08/19 07:07 PM
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Nah, you are under the misperception that I'm uncomfortable answering the question, when the truth is I'm too petty to petty to give into the demands of someone obstinate and unreasonable just to please them. I am in no way worried that if I answered the question my argument would be weakened, but when there is no reason I should answer the question, and when it will be followed with a string of more bad-faith arguments (which his argument has been, despite your denial, and as is revealed in his…
/r/MensRights24/08/19 04:08 PM
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I suppose it kind of depends what "your community" is. I've been told that only males can address toxic masculinity, and that annoys me, because to me, the kind of people who get together to deny that women are or ever have been oppressed, argue that feminism is fundamentally anti-male, that men are an oppressed group, or the kind of individuals who resort quickly to violence or controlling behavior-- well, I am not in those spheres, I don't meet those people, and I consider myself just as harme…
/r/MensRights24/08/19 03:57 PM
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This is blatantly untrue It is a BUZZWORD, that much is very true. Okay you lying sack of shit. Let's review here. You said "this is a BUZZWORD with every feminist having a different definition of the word." I said this is untrue, the definitions are all basically similar. You respond by defending that it is, in fact, a buzzword? I hope you're being dishonest, and you're not genuinely that stupid. STOP acting like Feminism is hard science which EVERYONE should instantly understand No worries, ma…
/r/MensRights24/08/19 03:41 PM
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You're a petulant child who would look directly into your mother's eyes and say "IF YOU DON'T BUY ME THAT CHOCOLATE BAR RIGHT NOW, I WILL BE COMPLETELY UNREASONABLE! I WILL CAUSE SUCH A SCENE YOU'D BETTER DO IT!" You're begging, demanding that I absolutely MUSt say something nice about men RIGHT NOW, DO IT WHY WON'T YOU DO IT if you'd JUST SAY SOMETHING NICE ABOUT MEN I'd move on and have a reasonable discussion with you! It's so sad and pathetic. Our debate is on what the meaning of the word "t…
/r/MensRights24/08/19 03:06 PM
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Read it again. I was asking how you would respond when the anti-vaxxer asked you those things. Are you forgetting that, simple discussions PRECEDE arguments&debates? Nah, not forgetting that. Just calling what I see here. In your case, "Toxic Masculinity" is a buzzword and every feminist has a different definition of what it means. See, here's the crux of it. This is blatantly untrue, and the only confusion comes from the intentional misrepresentation on your behalf. Every feminist definition ma…
/r/MensRights24/08/19 02:07 AM
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Okay but if you do you'll see me predict this exact behavior and explain why it's not rational for you to behave in this way. "Say nice things about me or I won't have a discussion with you" is literally what you're arguing right now. "The fact that you won't say nice things to me, unrelated in any way to our actual discussion, shows that you hate people like me and can't be reasoned with."
/r/MensRights24/08/19 01:56 AM
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Nah, there's tons of descriptions of healthy masculinity out there. In fact I have linked to them plenty of times here on MRA, and even you guys have posted some yourselves to this very subreddit. Even in your very short paragraphs, you already fail to take my arguments into account. When you say "to denigrate all masculinity by omission of its positive aspects" you ignore every argument I gave you, both in reasons and in comparative examples, why it would be nonsense to expect a feminist to was…
/r/MensRights24/08/19 01:22 AM
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That's a reasonable concern. Unfortunately the attitude taken by people on this website is the only reason that needs to be a concern. If you lie to your children for the sake of political points, and teach them that the phrase "toxic masculinity" means men are toxic, then yes, they are going to feel guilty and confused when they hear that phrase in commercials, on television, in the news, and so on. But if you teach them what it actually means, tell them that if they feel masculine then they sh…
/r/MensRights24/08/19 12:58 AM
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I wouldn't argue with an anti-vaxxer by saying "tell me about thimerosol." Nor would you be likely to sit and respond question-by-question if their method was "tell me about vaccination." "Okay, what is the immune system?" "Okay, what is mercury?" If they said "vaccines cause autism" I'd say "here's a study saying they don't." If they said "mercury in vaccines is toxic" I'd say "no it's not, here's evidence." I would much rather argue with an honest anti-vaxxer with some integrity than a duplici…
/r/MensRights24/08/19 12:47 AM
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Hahahahaha it's time for you to read a book my friend. If you are actually seeking information, this is not the way to go about it. Relying on whatever random redditors you encounter on your far-right subreddits to educate you on the entire worldview of a popular movement is not healthy or rational, nor is it likely to provide you with a fair view of the people you've spent so much time and energy hating and opposing. The only way this behavior makes sense is if you are trying to argue, but with…
/r/MensRights23/08/19 11:33 PM
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Your original comment was amusingly phrased as a neutral, innocent question. But when you got the answer, you asked a stupid, gotcha-type question. It's pretty obvious to anyone reading this that you aren't actually seeking information, but asking rhetorical questions to bolster your own POV. When feminism was formalized, was there an opposite term? Why not*? What is the opposite term of "mass shooter?" How about the opposite of "Muslim terrorist?" What's the opposite of "wife beater?" What's th…
/r/MensRights23/08/19 11:04 PM
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What arbitrary pettiness. First off, why would "risking their lives to save men" prove your point more than "risking their lives to save women?" Second, I love the number you pulled out of your ass... I assume if we meet that standard you will fe completely convinced, and not just come up with for more male anecdotes and demand another four for women? It does a credit to r/mensrights that you're being downvoted, though some of that could be from non-subbed people as this is a very visible post. …
/r/MensRights23/08/19 10:41 PM
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Literally the meaning of toxic masculinity in mainstream feminism is the part of traditional masculine behaviour that is harmful. The only reason you think it means more than that is that you spend time in subreddits like this which intentionally misrepresent the views of the other side with constant anecdotes of tweets and facebook and reddit comments from extreme, fringe, or faked accounts. Mainstream feminism does not teach that masculinity is toxic, only some expressions of it. The idea that…
/r/MensRights23/08/19 10:09 PM
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Gosh I'm sure that extremely simplistic assumption and causality chain is the explanation. Too bad the science nerds won't listen. https://www.apnews.com/b8ce29d88543479bbd4894f5a39cc686 ​ By the way, I noticed you didn't say "provide free or low-cost mental health programs for men." Besides socializing mental healthcare, what tailoring would you suggest for people who currently aren't seeing a mental health professional and are currently unlikely to do so? Edit: As a side note, don't forget tha…
/r/MensRights08/08/19 08:31 PM
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That's an interesting solution. I'm not against that at all.
/r/MensRights29/07/19 03:04 AM
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On principle I am absolutely in favor of charging applicable laws to false claims of rape with intent to harass. A thought for you guys though: how many men have been vindicated not from video evidence/text/etc, but just by a woman feeling guilty and coming forward, or admitting it? The famous story about the guy who was going to the NFL before the false rape claim that put him in jail, for example. Keep an eye out for that-- you post a lot of false accusation stories, so go past the headlines--…
/r/MensRights28/07/19 10:47 PM
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I love that you know the intent of the people who brought them there without knowing who the people are or where "there" is.
/r/MensRights28/07/19 07:16 AM
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What place is this?
/r/MensRights28/07/19 07:04 AM
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With such a strong opinion, I'm sure you know the context. Can you inform us? I had a hard time googling information given the complete lack of any context. For example, where is this taking place? Who decided to take the children there? Are we certain the same thing isn't happening with men out of the frame of the photo? What nation is this, and is nudity common there? etc etc. Thanks for the info!
/r/MensRights28/07/19 07:04 AM
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The wording was obviously a joke. The sentiment was true, and in context, the joke was made to soften the decision. So really no different from what happens with women in film every single day, which doesn't get talked about much except by feminists.
/r/MensRights24/07/19 05:48 AM
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oh we're only reversing the gender of one of them?
/r/MensRights24/07/19 05:25 AM
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Just an old case of "this literally happens all the time to women, and to a lesser degree, men too."
/r/MensRights24/07/19 05:12 AM
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More important than "correct" is whether they are meaningful. As an example, who pays the athletes? And are those specific bodies seeing an equal proportion of income? To illustrate, suppose the figures are total income generated through ads, merchandise, and sales. But suppose the US isn't very interested in Men's soccer, and the advertising in the US market is much cheaper compared to other nations. Suppose instead that most of that money accrues to european, african, and latin american market…
/r/MensRights12/07/19 12:48 AM
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He's an idiot. All he had to say was "I'm uncomfortable sharing a room with someone of the opposite gender and I won't do it." That's it. "I'm afraid of this woman lying to frame me for rape" is a stupid explanation that was obviously going to bring about backlash. Also, despite your brigading, OP doesn't say in his original post that they wouldn't pay for two rooms. In one comment he says "they would have put us in 1 room but separate beds" but absolutely does not say the company was inflexible…
/r/MensRights08/07/19 02:52 AM
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You're confusing "factor influencing a population" with "inescapable destiny." Not an easy mistake to make, but some people are spectacularly stupid.
/r/MensRights02/07/19 11:25 PM
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Except the subject of our disagreement is whether a history of injustice causes racial disparity in outcomes of if there is some mysterious unspoken other reason that is totally not racist we just can't say it out loud. Endless circles around it... oh it's just poverty! ...but why are more blacks poor? Oh because of their culture... but their cultures in the US were shaped by the way the predominant culture of the US treated them.... oh well what, that was a long time ago? When you deny that the…
/r/MensRights02/07/19 08:05 PM
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Yes the ol' 'you're more racist for calling me racist than I am for being racist' defense. Masterful.
/r/MensRights02/07/19 08:09 AM
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Nothing but racist garbage and denial. This is why the left will never stop calling you racist- because you are.
/r/MensRights01/07/19 09:11 PM
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"I wasn't defending the statement you were attacking" while you also refuse to drop that statement or defend it now that I've made clear the racist underpinnings required to defend it.
/r/MensRights01/07/19 08:15 AM
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Look at this attempt at rhetorical deflection. Most young men of any race arent considering being a fireman. ...yet somehow this factor explains the racial disparity among fireman. Hmmmm, almost as if your argument doesn't make sense but it doesn't matter, because it's part of a rationalization not a result of honest critical thinking.
/r/MensRights01/07/19 04:23 AM
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Yeah well you said you didn't want to be considered a racist, and you just crossed that line. You're racist, and the problem is you're so strongly in denial about it that you take people making obvious observations as if they are wrong. They must be so brainwashed that they cry "racism" at the drop of a hat. But you can't even acknowledge that racism has kept minorities out of positions of authority and out of conservative social networks. Instead, you think so little of them that you assume the…
/r/MensRights01/07/19 03:22 AM
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They "don't have very good opinions of cops" -- once again, just a decision black people made, not something done to them BY cops in a society of people controlled by people who looked like those cops before the brown people had any rights or acceptance. All I'm saying is stop wording it like it's a characteristic produced intentionally by brown people, rather than an effect of society on brown people.
/r/MensRights30/06/19 11:59 PM
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The fact that you phrase it this way really does illustrate the flaw in your worldview. You act like other races are just too lazy to be firefighters, or just aren't interested. You ignore the reality that these pockets of "old boys clubs" have long acted to keep others out, whether intentionally or not. Obviously I'm not talking about every police and fire department everywhere, but I'm saying if you had to look at two different scenarios, the truth is much closer to "women and non-whites have …
/r/MensRights30/06/19 09:32 PM
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you're basically saying Nope. I was pretty clear on what I'm saying. I didn't break it down into good guys/bad guys, I explained specifically what feminism says and how it applies. Your attitude towards the #metoo movement is ignorant, and shows your bias. For hundreds of years, many women have been routinely hurt by abuse of power by males, and were kept quiet. When that changed, a handful of innocent men (in addition to many, many guilty ones) were affected. To you, this is unacceptable, but t…
/r/MensRights28/06/19 11:59 PM
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from an evolutionary standpoint and in society Entirely different things, and in very many cases, society has trained people to behave very differently from what evolution did. This is where I say you have it all ass-backwards. You take an ignorant armchair view of evolutionary psychology and use it to try and argue that some things are just unchangeable, that society can't change something if it's "ingrained" or "natural" or "evolutionary." Bullshit. Men are considered expendable, and society s…
/r/MensRights28/06/19 07:34 PM
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Feminism does help men too. But feminism exists to help women. And nearly all of the problems that men's right's groups complain about are actually the exact problems that would be fixed if you'd stop sniffing your own asses and realize that you're wrong about what the real issues are, that you're blaming the wrong people, and you're going about it all the wrong way. Feminism isn't for men and not meant to help men. However, the goals of feminism-- reducing the disparity in treatment of men and …
/r/MensRights28/06/19 06:54 PM
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Neither you nor I have enough information to judge the first one. You are using biased thinking to jump to conclusions, but the article doesn't justify coming to any particular conclusion about gender sensitive rather than gender neutral rape laws in India. What is the current law? Why are the women concerned? They say the new law puts women at risk-- why are they saying that? You've just conclude they're shitty people who want to hurt men. That's a silly conclusion. They live in a place and tim…
/r/MensRights27/06/19 06:58 PM
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You are really bothered by the whole "women are humans" thing. I never said anything about being good friends before having sex. In some settings I will have sex with complete strangers, maybe without even knowing their name. None of this at all contradicts anything I have said. You are such a terrible person that "women are people not just sex objects" is impossible for you to comprehend. You can't understand the difference between "think of women as people, as a general rule" and "don't have s…
/r/MensRights26/06/19 11:46 PM
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That's a pretty hilarious thing to say to someone who is as heavily involved in the BDSM/kink community as I am. The things I said to you were based on an accurate assessment of what you're saying. The things you're saying to me are projection and wishful thinking.
/r/MensRights26/06/19 11:34 PM
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So here's the issue: you are an unusually terrible person. It's not that feminism is anti-male, it's that you are terrible and feminism opposes being terrible. I hope that you stop being terrible, until then, I hope you are miserable constantly every day, as you deserve to be.
/r/MensRights26/06/19 11:22 PM
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You literally took evidence that I'm right, ignored it, then wrote the biggest piece of nonsense. It is crystal clear from the exact quote you pasted here that no one is talking about "anytime a male looks at something" or something inherently bad about men. That quote is literally explaining to you what the definition of the male gaze is-- not "anything a male gazes at" but a perspective that dehumanizes women by treating them as objects. That's all a reply to your very first sentence. The Male…
/r/MensRights26/06/19 10:39 PM
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(part 2) I guess if I had one major message I'd like you to get through your skull, it's this: You seem to be seeking to find praise for men within feminism, and if you don't find that, you conclude that feminism is anti-male and anti-equality. This is an absurd point of view. Feminism is about promoting the rights of women, and there is no more reason to expect feminist literature to write glowing reviews of men and stroke their egos than there would be reason for vegan, racial, socialist, or o…
/r/MensRights26/06/19 08:08 PM
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(part 1) According to feminism, there are MANY things that are bad that only men do, but everything good men do/are is not related to their masculinity. Nope. This is according to you and your distorted and bastardized view of feminism. According to feminism, there is a lot of harm that comes from a male-dominated society that disproportionately uses the male perspective and male assumptions to determine how society should function. Feminism isn't about individual men, and has little to say abou…
/r/MensRights26/06/19 07:56 PM
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The problem is that they actively try to hold back things that could help men "they" Virtually none would so such a thing. Your warped echo chamber has convinced you this is true, but it is nonsense. "They" if they exist at all are an extremely tiny fringe minority, and even the ones who appear to do this are mostly being intentionally taken out of context and misportrayed to take advantage of your eagerness to be a victim. get angry when men’s problems are even mentioned Again, not true. Howeve…
/r/MensRights26/06/19 05:36 PM
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in a world where nobody is talking about the good aspects of masculinity Because the "good aspects of masculinity" were, when feminism arrived, what people talk about by default when they talk about what is good. If that has changed to some degree, it is thanks to feminism. It is very hard to feel prideful about being a man Well it would be stupid to take pride in something you have no control over. However, if you have a hard time being proud of the person you are, that's a shame. But blame you…
/r/MensRights26/06/19 04:51 PM
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The male tears mug portrays the fact that women shame you for being weak No, it mocks you for whining about feminism. You're the only one pushing the other narrative, while also claiming to be affected by it. You're the aggriever and the aggrieved. How convenient for you and your victim complex.
/r/MensRights26/06/19 04:38 PM
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I mean, speaking from experience women need to have support groups and endless meetings and countless outreach programs Let's break this down, because it's pretty funny. Need to have support groups So are support groups bad? How would you distinguish between "I need this or I'll break down into a puddle of tears" vs "this is a good thing and I'll go ahead an implement it?" Unless you're actively against social support, it's pretty bizarre to criticize women for implementing support groups, isn't…
/r/MensRights26/06/19 04:15 AM
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They are defined by what women are attracted to, and what benefits men. This is the most bizarre and unfounded way to define a term I've ever seen. I don't even know how to respond to that. getting angry at someone for being a dick is a good thing, and punishing them for it is good This is a fun little look into your psyche-- you are basically acting on your animal/lizard instincts with no intelligent human oversight operating in your brain. It turns out in most instances punishment is ineffecti…
/r/MensRights26/06/19 04:00 AM
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Independence, Proactiveness, Confidence, Passion, Chillness, emotional and physical strength What makes you consider these "masculine?" Ie, what gave you that idea? And do you believe they should be masculine-- ie, if society were ordered in your preferred way, would these traits be more common in men than women? ​ And what about the other part of the issue-- do you think there is a single "masculine" trait or expression that is common and harmful to men or women, or society as a whole? Or can y…
/r/MensRights26/06/19 03:27 AM
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I have no idea what your first question means, maybe you can clarify. I have never heard any feminist say anything that's pro-masculinity. That's because literally the only feminism you are exposed to are the links you are shown through your chosen anti-feminist blog pages/facebook groups which are meant to show feminists in the worst possible light, or in contexts where you demand someone show you a snippet to prove your point, which of course you would conveniently forget if a different person…
/r/MensRights26/06/19 01:00 AM
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Feminists respond to anti-feminists by trolling WHY ARE THEY TRYING TO CONTROL US!?
/r/MensRights26/06/19 12:35 AM
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And your point is trivial and obvious, and in no way relevant to the photo in this submission. Men deserve just as much respect as any other group, And no one argued otherwise that means NOT talking ill of all men And that is not what "male tears" mugs do. The amount of paranoid, fragile delusion required to think that someone drinking from a mug that says "male tears" is literally saying they want men to cry, or are mocking any men who express emotion in the form of tears, is so absurd it's hil…
/r/MensRights26/06/19 12:20 AM
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I certainly could read post history, but I fail to see why I would consider doing that. Your comment above was stupid. If you think your comment history somehow justifies the stupid comment, feel free to explain why.
/r/MensRights26/06/19 12:09 AM
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Hahahahaha this cracks me up. Nice comparison. "Women shouldn't resort to derision when men are obstinately opposed to change, and if they use this tactic then they are equivalent to women who baselessly and needlessly enforce gender roles on men, and also equivalent to racists btw!" This reminds me of this guy I know who makes really bad analogies.
/r/MensRights25/06/19 11:58 PM
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"Yup! Women on the internet using 'male tears' mugs to mock anti-feminist men are an important reason I refuse to talk about issues with my own wife! YEEEAAP."
/r/MensRights25/06/19 11:25 PM
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Sure, women do this. Not what is happening in these images, though. You're being deliberately obtuse. None of these women are reacting to a man who is emotional over something that affected them emotionally-- the loss of a loved one, an event in a book or a movie, a sick friend or pet, etc. These mugs are quite obviously aimed at men protesting feminism. You're manufacturing outrage.
/r/MensRights25/06/19 09:45 PM
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This doesn't speak very highly of men, does it? "We don't have the capacity to make decisions ourselves. We are told to act, and we act." Malicious intent is a worse crime than violent actions? That only seems to make sense if the argument is "who is a worse human being" rather than "how should society behave" or "how should the courts handle this." Is that really all we're discussing-- how horrible women are, or at least how horrible this woman is? It's hard for me to interpret your comment any…
/r/MensRights14/05/19 12:00 AM
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Since we're on agreement on that... ​ My attitude towards this stuff is that we should expect people to most energetically advocate for themselves/those they identify with, while listening to and remaining empathetic to the views of others. In other words, it doesn't bother me that some people are MRAs and don't really care that much about the plight of women where they have it bad, or that others are feminists and don't really care that much about the plight of men where they have it bad... pro…
/r/MensRights13/05/19 11:50 PM
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Source? Eh, I don't have an echosphere where the craziest tweets and comments get posted and upvoted as if they're mainstream views of the opposing side, as you do. So, rather than digging up some comment or tweet to back this up, I'll just retract that and ask you to deal with the substance of my argument rather than debate one of my caveats. No, feminist opposition to prosecuting false rape claims more generally is a thing, especially in UK/Canada We have different interpretations. The idea th…
/r/MensRights13/05/19 11:39 PM
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It's clear that I know that, or else I wouldn't have had to specify it for this thought experiment. It is an excellent idea for the intended purpose. It may not be a good idea for an unspecified general purpose. By the way, in some court cases in some states, the jury is required to do exactly this. For a state and case where comparative negligence must be assigned, the jury will literally look at multiple people who share blame for an outcome, and assign percentages totaling to 100, and awards …
/r/MensRights13/05/19 11:25 PM
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I can't decide whether you're dishonest or really just this obtuse. I can't decide whether to just clarify my statements, which were straightforward and easy to understand, or to pick apart the piles of nonsense you just wrote. ​ I guess I'll start by addressing your new comment? That seems as good as any. You shout (using bold) about how it's SOME WOMEN NOT ALL which is of course entirely irrelevant to anything I've said. Why are you worked up about this imagined criticism? I never accused you …
/r/MensRights13/05/19 08:16 PM
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I think you'll get a lot of shoulder shrugging when you ask anyone what the punishment should be for anything. It's not an easy decision to make, and it's not a responsibility most people want. But you also have people on your side intentionally muddying the waters. There's a big difference between a claim with no evidence, and a demonstrably false claim. And it's pretty well established that many women (and men!) do not come forward about their experiences for a variety of reasons, and fear tha…
/r/MensRights13/05/19 07:44 PM
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As a fun little experiment, suppose you HAD to assign blame proportionately. You can't say "both 100% guilty." The totals have to add up to 100. Between the 16-year-old girl who made the false accusation, and the 17-year-old boy who ran up and assaulted Michael and killed him, how would you divide up the blame?
/r/MensRights13/05/19 07:21 PM
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Gee, what a fun experiment. Then you can ignore the fact that 100% of them feel exactly the same way about it as you do, that it's horrific and the girl's actions were reprehensible (with maybe a mention that the investigation is still open and they may want to wait for it to be completed). Instead, you can start pushing your own nonsense agenda in the comments, explaining how you can never believe any rape claims again because of this, and if they say you should show empathy towards a person wh…
/r/MensRights13/05/19 06:45 PM
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I can agree with the statement "there are bad people in all walks of life." I hope you understand that you're basically twisting the above sentiment to somehow reinforce your anti-feminists views. You've managed to become a 1-person echo chamber. You're literally working yourself up about an occurrence you just made up-- now you're associating a negative emotional event from your own past with your made-up scenario involving feminists behaving badly, so that you can associate that emotion with f…
/r/MensRights13/05/19 06:25 PM
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>"just" ​ I'll bet you reddit platinum that if you make that post, no one with a >2 year old account with a history of pro-feminist comments will absolve her of guilt. Don't get me wrong, they will quite fairly ALSO blame the man who beat Michael to death for beating Michael to death. Do you think he's an innocent victim of his sister's manipulation? That a man's role is to go killing people if a woman tells them they were victimized? I'm gonna assume you realize how stupid that position would b…
/r/MensRights13/05/19 06:15 PM
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if I wasn't aware I was joking with that statement I'd realize pretty fast that there's probably some feminist therapists and psychologists that exploit mental trauma of girls and women Do you realize how inane this statement is? It's wrapped up in so many layers of "I didn't really say this so you can't hold me accountable for it" that it stopped making sense several words in. "If I wasn't aware I was joking then I'd realize.... and not only realize, but realize *pretty fast*... (meaning it's a…
/r/MensRights13/05/19 06:04 PM
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The creature has reached the end of its arguments and is now resorting to threat displays. Here's how it works: there is no "swinging pendulum." Sociologists like to call it the "overton window" but yes, societal change occurs with some back and forth. But no, it won't go back to the way it was, and no, it won't get worse than Trump. The window will keep shifting towards progress, with occasional gasps of outrage from you and your ilk pulling us back a bit, then it moves further than it was befo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 06:23 PM
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Nah. You're exhausted with having to think. You believe that because most people (everyone who isn't a rural-living white male) allow historical and ongoing injustices influence how people represent day-to-day nonissues (fat acceptance mostly using females in their pictures OH NO), it's an excuse to worry that somehow people will take terrible, drastic actions with regards to this nonissue, and then those nice decent "sitting the fence" men-- I think I saw some waving tiki-torches in Charleston?…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 04:38 PM
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So... you're doing exactly what I accused you of. you're bringing in things that aren't relevant to our discussion because of your hairtrigger offense radar. Fat acceptance is a movement that, for the majority of people behind it, applies to men and women, but is primarily advocated by women, and they primarily care about women when doing it. That doesn't mean they exclude men or have no desire to include them, only that it's low priority for them. Literally nothing of importance is happening. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 04:03 AM
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Many of the ones who previously were in the ambiguous "don't really care either way", which is probably a pretty big pool, are starting to see feminism as an evil, and that trend may grow. Nah. Only the most delusional charlatans could think that oppression is ongoing, in the west, I am SO SURPRISED that this is your opinion! I could not have guessed. Thank you for sharing it. There is nothing drastic happening. Some people said "don't be mean to me because I'm fat" and you were like "what about…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 11:28 PM
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I think it's a dangerous way to proceed, because it could very well prompt many men to simply argue and vote for reverting back to the female-oppressive state of things. The men who would do that have never been on board with women achieving equality. They may pay it lip service, but they are terrible shit humans. rather than redress at the expense of people who neither benefitted from nor perpetrated the previous oppressions, would be the way to go. Of course I have no interest in debating the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 09:42 PM
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I'd guess it's because society as a whole is still dealing with thousands of years of relentless misogyny that we are only recognizing and addressing in the past few generations, and so ment's issues are on the backseat. As a side note, even if you disagree that misogyny is real or whatever, my explanation still applies based on the perception of society as a whole. ​ When you say "we know who" I suppose you're implying feminists, but regardless of what you actually mean, I would say the "who" i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 12:21 AM
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Wait so there are synthetic dicks?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 12:10 AM
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I don't know why it has to be that way. I don't see why any social movement needs to be spearheaded by those affected. I can think of reasons that this might be more effective, or more desirable, but it certainly doesn't seem necessary. A great example would be veganism. I'll also note that people with average penises may also feel penis shame, just as people who are healthy but not "pinup ideal" can benefit from fat acceptance. I'm not going anywhere with this, by the way. Just pushing back on …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 12:10 AM
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There's a big difference between "you don't need evidence to convict someone" and "you don't need proof to believe someone."
/r/MensRights12/04/19 03:02 AM
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The world isn't so bad. I think you can relax a little. I realize you're beyond reach, but I hope that this one key point will reach you: It's a completely different thing to dismiss everything I said with one word under the premise that "ugh men and their explaining" This doesn't happen, and the fact that this is how you perceive it reflects on you. Most men, including those in environments where their co-workers are almost exclusively female, will literally never be accused of "mansplaining." …
/r/MensRights18/03/19 09:28 PM
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Someone who seriously attempts to use the word "mansplaining" in a conversation is clearly stupid Ah, so you simply have no experience in the real world. I see where we stand now. Have a great day!
/r/MensRights18/03/19 09:18 PM
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smart, normal people can say things you don't like. sometimes smart, normal people can be rude, or cruel, or wrong. also they can just have a different opinion on what words are appropriate, or a different opinion on whether your conduct is appropriate, and respond to you accordingly. that's a life lesson. most people don't need to be told this, but you did. And for that reason you should write it down and review it later. Maybe make a flashcard.
/r/MensRights18/03/19 05:49 AM
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iRoNIc
/r/MensRights17/03/19 10:16 PM
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hy should you continue to take seriously a person who... Depends on the context. In literally every professional environment, because you have to take co-workers seriously to perform your job even if you don't like everything they say. If it's someone you already don't give a shit about and don't need to speak with, why are you posting about it?
/r/MensRights17/03/19 10:06 PM
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You are reaching really fucking hard with that mainstream media thing, but assume all you want, I'm a European student and I couldn't care less about your liberal vs conservative culture war. I love that you think I'm buying this. (Not denying that you're European but everything else? Really?) Shutting someone up because they are 'mansplaining' is sexist, clear and simple Nah. The term is sexist, of course, but it is not used to shut someone up because they're a man, it's used to shut someone up…
/r/MensRights17/03/19 09:53 PM
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in a page dedicated to complaining about a term that is creeping up in workplaces and professional environments, where you complain about society and how it's unfair to you, you think I'm the one showing an inability to function in an area of life? the person who noticed your unnecessary and awkward shortcomings The person wasn't speaking about me. I don't use the term "mansplaining." So you're not even following along, which reinforces my entire point-- you're not capable of adult thinking. I m…
/r/MensRights17/03/19 08:33 PM
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that's all that's happening here lol, yeah, that's all. You're delusional. Yes, there is some of that happening here. There is also a shit-ton of regressive misogynist bullshit going on here every day. Just like there is a lot of bullshit going on in some of the feminist bubbles eg Tumblr. But you don't see that, because it's your own bullshit and you agree with it ;) And by the way, I said mainstream society not "mainstream media." The fact that your right-wing trope came out of your mouth inst…
/r/MensRights17/03/19 08:21 PM
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You're the only one who is locked at square one because you heavily try to accept childish behavior as being behavior we should all endorse and maybe go as far as adopt world wide. You're absolutely insane. This is the most retarded, imaginary thing I've read on reddit all day. I've literally criticized the word multiple times on this page, calling it rude and inappropriate. Just like you get offended when you get called names, so will men Yeah, which is my entire point. Get offended, but don't …
/r/MensRights17/03/19 08:10 PM
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I was just explaining that using a stupid word in no way refutes anything someone else said or allows you to reasonably dismiss their argument. You were too dumb to follow along, so mission impossible.
/r/MensRights17/03/19 07:57 PM
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Sounds a bit rude, but doesn't mean the rest of your words suddenly mean nothing and you "lost" the argument.
/r/MensRights17/03/19 07:45 PM
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Nah, it's criticizing your approach/tone. Certainly you can differ on whether and when that disagreement is fair or appropriate. Somebody who acts like that loses respect Sure, from you, but pretty much anyone posting on this subreddit loses respect from much of mainstream society. I personally try to respect or disrespect someone based on more reasonable factors, because that's the rational approach.
/r/MensRights17/03/19 07:33 PM
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As the other guy says, there are terms and theories that people bring up that immediately highlight their stupidity/gullibility. You'll find there is no correlation between stupidity/gullibility and use of that term. Correlation with feminism, maybe. It's wishful thinking on your behalf that somehow all of the people you politically disagree with are stupid.
/r/MensRights17/03/19 05:33 PM
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When somebody uses the word "mansplaining" you should react the same way as if they had their fingers in their ears and was shouting "LALALALA!" because it amounts to the same thing. Listening to you and using a word you don't like in response... is equivalent to not listening to you? So your entire counter-argument is the most literal false equivalency imaginable? Also note your reply depends on context, which OP does not provide. If her goal was to shut you down and move on without further dis…
/r/MensRights17/03/19 05:23 PM
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If you wanted to actually test me, you'd have to say something besides that and see if I ignored it/discredited it because of the schoolyard insult, or if I responded to the substance of your comment. But you didn't have any substance or anything useful to say, so it's not really a good test, is it.
/r/MensRights17/03/19 05:12 PM
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Why do women usually lose their calm when it comes to such replies My experience is you just made that claim up? Adding "man" to any word that can be considered an action won't fix the world in any way, it will just make it easy to label you as a social moro And we're back to square one. And btw, I can only reply every 8 minutes at this point. This should be fun, as I'll have another reply to every comment before I can reply to the next one.
/r/MensRights17/03/19 05:02 PM
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my head feels fine?
/r/MensRights17/03/19 04:47 PM
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So when you get triggered by certain words you ignore any rational discussion that was previously taking place? How about this: you don't like that word but as a rational adult you are still capable of evaluating the rest of the content spoken? Goddamn what a crybaby.
/r/MensRights17/03/19 08:49 AM
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Y smooooooth
/r/MensRights13/03/19 12:26 AM
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I was offended, and pointed out to my manager that other people on the team, including the woman who presented this list and my manager herself, have made comments that I could have complained about should I have wanted to. My manager has also commented on my appearance more than once, which is sexual harassment, and I reminded her of this (although I didn't put it that way). I stated that I felt this was incredibly hypocritical, but it didn't matter; Life pro tip: In literally any context, this…
/r/MensRights12/03/19 06:21 PM
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...difference being the Gillette ad talked about actual bad behavior, this ad talks about acceptable behavior as if it's bad. Or at least, that's the argument, you can agree or not that the ad is shaming anyone. But it's not comparable to the Gillette ad.
/r/MensRights05/02/19 01:02 AM
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Isn't this just buddhism with regards to sex? Why stop there? Why not have a buddhist approach towards all of your desires? In Buddhism, desire and ignorance lie at the root of suffering. By desire, Buddhists refer to craving pleasure, material goods, and immortality, all of which are wants that can never be satisfied. Yeah I think you just re-invented Buddhism for yourself. https://www.pbs.org/edens/thailand/buddhism.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 06:40 AM
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Nah. You were right up until the last sentence, then you put on your nonsense goggles and decided to trash a group you don't like. Every population has a certain amount of people who don't understand the value of the system we live in, because we've never experienced the opposite. Ask people what they think of lawyers who defend pedophiles, including ones they know are guilty, and including using tactics related to process (eg challenging damaging evidence that was obtained through illegal means…
/r/MensRights28/11/18 11:16 PM
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I'm not arguing "what if the genders are reversed" Fine, but that's literally the only point I've made in every comment of this thread. I think the takeaway lesson here is that if you want to be useful to the world, before you start blabbing your mouth, get the most basic clue about what the discussion is about, and if you agree but want to talk about something else, start by expressing that you agree on the main point. I mean seriously. Every single thing you said to me, if you read my comments…
/r/MensRights21/11/18 03:29 AM
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forever past treatment The key point is to remember that most people disagree with you. I'm not debating your underlying premise, to be clear. But if person X, or society Y, believes there is a current difference in treatment of the sexes, they should be expected to seek a remedy. That remedy will be counter to what the perceive as the problem, and will therefore affect the sexes differently. You (as you have repeatedly argued despite the fact that I've repeatedly acknowledged it) disagree with …
/r/MensRights20/11/18 09:54 PM
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Grow up. Treating people identically doesn't lead to equality if they don't occupy an equal place to begin with. You obviously know that or you wouldn't be part of a Men's Rights subreddit. And before you say 'well feminism...' you just cited a list of men's problems dating back thousands of years. Acting like everyone is equal and we should immediately ignore all differences is dumb and naive, and you yourself don't even adhere to it. You seek equality through the men's rights movement, seeing …
/r/MensRights20/11/18 01:57 PM
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it's ok to do this Very clearly in both comments stated this was beside my point. To put it another way, I am making no claims about whether it's okay to do or not. You will find nothing in any of my comments stating that it's okay. Should during next women's day women be shamed because men have problems as well? My point, which you seem to be willfully ignoring or too stupid to grasp, is that simply flipping the genders doesn't actually prove any point. Society sees the current state of things …
/r/MensRights19/11/18 10:44 PM
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As I said, you seem to be intentionally missing the point when you talk about role reversal. It's one thing to argue she's wrong, for all of the reasons you've posted for the umpteenth time on this page, which I pretty clearly pointed out were not relevant to my point. It's another thing to say "but what if the roles are reversed." Your issue is with society's perception of women and men, as you plainly stated above. Society is in the midst of a feminist movement, which you think is backwards an…
/r/MensRights19/11/18 10:24 PM
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Ya'll are missing the point, though I think part of that is intentional. Ellen isn't doing this in a vacuum. She's not doing it because she thinks it is, on its own, the right thing to do. She's doing it literally, directly, intentionally, and explicitly as a response to what she perceives as sexism towards women that is still rampant in society today. (My point is the same whether you agree with her view or not.) As a result, it's nonsense to say "can you imagine if it were reversed?" But in th…
/r/MensRights19/11/18 08:48 PM
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taken slack *flack Thanks for speaking up. I wish more people would speak up when this sub (as it frequently does) crosses the line from supporting men to hating women, but it's always good to see people in any subreddit willing to call out their own when they are saying things that are inaccurate or harmful. Edit: I have to wait 6 minutes to reply, and I want to use that reply on a different comment, so I'm editing this one instead replying to the correction below (flak vs flack) https://www.me…
/r/MensRights19/11/18 08:37 PM
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In this case, it's trading one person's life for another, and doing so voluntarily. They aren't creating harm, just redirecting harm someone else created. If the guy was still alive you could tell him he is an idiot who has been poisoned by society's disregard for lives. You could share your thoughts on how society treats males as disposable, and by the way I think you do make some good points there. I suspect he would tell you to buzz off, and that he made the decision he was happy with. In man…
/r/MensRights10/11/18 10:22 PM
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That's a lot of shouting. Toxic facets of masculinity can hurt the man exhibiting them, and other men. Why are you telling the opposite? Did someone tell you that's their view and you think that's what all of your opponents think? If you can explain, maybe I can sort it out.
/r/MensRights09/11/18 08:26 PM
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I don't understand why you've just declared something to be true which doesn't seem to have any reason behind it. Why must you accept negative expressions and facets of masculinity without challenging them if you accept the positive? Your analogy is nonsenical, if you ask me. No, you're not a buffet... you're a human who can do shitty things or good things, and society prefers the good one s. And what traits that feminists consider harmful that you disagree with?
/r/MensRights09/11/18 07:17 AM
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So... you all realize this kind of masculinity isn't toxic, right? You're saying there's positive masculinity, which no one disagrees with. That's one way to look at it. Alternately, you could say this is society devaluing men's lives, as you normally do on this subreddit. Either interpretation is fair, but neither is a "side" of toxic masculinity. It's only toxic when it's harmful.
/r/MensRights09/11/18 06:05 AM
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thoughtfully Debatable
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 10:32 PM
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Early positive feedback is important, but it's not everything ...which is why I already pointed out that you can develop a talent without early feedback, but that feedback makes it more likely that you will succeed... so you're repeating me.... and the world does not give everyone an equal start in life Which I also just said. sex sex sex You're a lot like Kavanaugh and his beer, no one cares, make your point please. Worth loving on your own, meaning what? You don't do or say or act in any way t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 09:31 PM
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Yes, the harmful message I mention could be described in other terms too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 06:32 PM
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No, THAT'S not how talent works. That's a fairytale. Some people are born with many talents, some with few, some with none. It's true that most people, through hard work, can become skilled at something. However, it's much more likely to happen if you receive early positive feedback, which is more likely if you're talented and attractive. Also, the message that if you get good at something you'll get women seems like kind of a bad one to me. You're not worth loving on your own, but get really go…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 05:00 PM
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Isn't that kind of like arguing that by not banning fundamental Christianity, we are allowing fundamental Islam as well? For the record, I actually agree with the statement above, I just know that a lot of conservatives/MRAs don't see it that way. Was curious on your take.
/r/MensRights18/08/18 06:16 PM
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Lol. I literally just said the opposite, that they can't be separated. Literally. I literally said that.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 11:51 PM
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Then no one was talking about the kind of masculinity you're worried about having stripped from you, and there was no need for you to get involved with an unrelated tangent. I was discussing masculine roles, and the fact that traditional masculine roles and behaviors, which are tightly connected and inseparable, are what cause these discrepancies in custody. If your idea of masculine roles isn't related to your ideas of masculinity, then i wasn't discussing your idea of masculinity. If you were,…
/r/MensRights16/08/18 03:06 PM
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But you want to tack on additional roles where the traditional ones harm men, without any kind of sacrifice? The traditional male role/behavior is to be minimally involved in child-rearing, and maximally focused on resource gathering (and/or protection.) This means any court who is tasked with considering first and foremost the wellbeing of the children in the divorce should default to giving the children to the mother, who is traditionally the caretaker of children, while transferring financial…
/r/MensRights15/08/18 05:41 PM
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It's sexism, based on the idea that women are not stone cold killers because women are sweet and nice. I can't think of a better example of what de-emphazising gender perceptions and roles would be the most direct long-term solution. My experience here is that MRAs always agree in this context, but stridently disagree in other contexts. Their disagreement is not because of the context, but because they actually support traditional gender roles except in the cases when they see how it negatively …
/r/MensRights15/08/18 03:20 AM
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I don't mind hearing your feelings, as long as you understand that they are not important when determining policy. Since you are treating this as a therapy session instead of a rational, adult discussion, I hope you'll keep opening up. Tell me more. What made you this way?
/r/MensRights15/08/18 02:43 AM
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Not at all. I actually think cultural norms are the main reason we are in this mess, including the example you just provided, and that the solution is to de-emphasize gender roles, get away from reinforcing traditionally masculine behaviors in men, and from traditionally feminine behaviors in women, and accept and approve of effiminate behaviors in men, and same for women. It just seems like that's the opposite of what this sub is working towards most of the time, including in many of the soluti…
/r/MensRights15/08/18 02:42 AM
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I can see you're very emotional. This must be a hard topic for you to talk about. You didn't actually answer my question, because you were so busy talking about your feelings, but it seems like you think it might make the children worse citizens. If you disagree, feel free to explain why. I think that generalizes pretty well (again, if it's not too triggering, feel free to explain if you disagree.) If a room of policy makers were discussing how to handle children after a divorce, they'll want to…
/r/MensRights15/08/18 01:37 AM
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In a scenario where a mother has to raise children on her own, who has a multi-year gap in employment, do you feel the children will be better or worse citizens, in terms of things like becoming gainfully employed, not committing crimes, becoming informed participants in the democratic process, etc, under your system compared to the current system? And why do you think that?
/r/MensRights15/08/18 12:35 AM
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Look at any statistics for how often either sex gets primary care and custody I have. This is entry level stuff. It's a known fact that the family courts are extremely biased towards the mom. I'm sure you're aware most applicants to college level math and computer science courses are male. Out of curiosity, do you think that's a societal issue, or that it can be explained by biology? I'm sure you know a disproportionate number of prisoners are black and male. Do you think this is because of bad …
/r/MensRights14/08/18 11:45 PM
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So what is the alternative? Only the parent who gets custody has to pay for them, even if that parent chose to stay home and raise them during marriage instead of pursuing a career? Or do you have another idea? (Maybe the children can work?)
/r/MensRights14/08/18 11:40 PM
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Yup, that's an embarrassing misread. My mistake. The only real question is how significant the effect is, not whether it happens. Right, there's no disagreement there. I would never dream of debating that this happens, only that it likely is not the major driver of the rates. Also, as someone who seems reasonable, keep this in mind while asking for empathy: I read this whole page before commenting. Any reasonable, moderate person is going to feel disgust above empathy after reading the top-level…
/r/MensRights14/08/18 09:34 PM
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You'd think if he'd used "abuse" in exagerrated fashion, the judge would've picked up on it and deny his request for custody in the first place You misunderstand. In this scenario I am asserting the possibility that he used the word in an exaggerated fashion in describing the situation for US. I don't say anything about how or whether it was ever used in court. if we don't have the details, then how do you know he's making it up? If I knew he was making it up, why would I include that on a list …
/r/MensRights14/08/18 09:28 PM
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I notice you ignore homicide. Surely this is because you obviously dismiss as completely stupid the argument that custody disputes are a significant factor in the homicide rate for males? That said, I looked at statistics for divorce rates and suicide rates. I hadn't considered how many millions of divorces occur each year, compared to how low the suicide rate is. While I still doubt it's a major factor (ie, I think if all custody battles ended in a way that made men happy, you'd still see an in…
/r/MensRights14/08/18 08:42 PM
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So we have what seems like pretty objective facts: the judge awarded custody of 3 male children to the mother, and 1 female child to the father. On being taken to trial, s/he gave even more parental rights to the mother. Then we have the more subjective claim: OP claims the reason he got the daughter was that the mom was abusive. Then we get to ask which scenario is most likely 1) OP used the word "abusive" in an exaggerated fashion, where most of the rest of us would not consider it appropriate…
/r/MensRights14/08/18 08:08 PM
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Yeah, I imagine that would be tough regardless of how high the payments. I sometimes forget to be grateful for growing up in a stable loving family.
/r/MensRights14/08/18 08:06 PM
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>if you saw OP has custody of his daughter. So obviously he is competent. Why then would he not have custody of one of his sons as well? How about one of the literally countless reasons that a judge could hear that might indicate that in this particular case, this particular child is better off with the mother? You understand that judges don't just determine whether a parent is competent or not, as some general standard, and then roll a die for where the kids go, right? They look at each individ…
/r/MensRights14/08/18 07:59 PM
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No one doubts it is hard to lose custody, and that alimony compounds that. If you meant to contradict something I said, then maybe I should clarify (have to remember my audience!) that I was contradicting the claim that these situations explain high rates of male suicide/homicide, not that these situations couldn't make an individual depressed and/or suicidal.
/r/MensRights14/08/18 07:52 PM
-4

Haha no you misunderstand. I'm talking about a factor influencing the rates of suicide, not the factors the lead an individual to suicide. OP claims that this scenario explains the high rates of suicide. That's what I'm refuting. I'm not denying that this situation could make a man feel suicidal. In addition, 100% of the people who would murder their ex were not fit to have the kids in the first place, so we can probably leave those garbage people out of the discussion of what the courts are doi…
/r/MensRights14/08/18 07:43 PM
1

It sounds like your kids were separated from you because you and your wife separated from each other, and kids can't be in two places at once.
/r/MensRights14/08/18 07:40 PM
-119

Oh come on. You have one guy's claim that he deserves the children. You have no facts, even from his side of the story, and you certainly don't have her side of the story. It's great to give this guy the benefit of the doubt, especially as you see a pattern of discrimination against men, but it's different to make such a bold and unsupported statement about the judge.
/r/MensRights14/08/18 07:19 PM
-21

I highly doubt this is a significant factor in male homicide or suicide. This is a bad situation, though of course we can't know what evidence the judge was using to make his decision. Sorry for that. Would you support more social services, supported by taxation, so that our society can spread the cost of children separated from their income-winning parents? I think that would be a good idea, though the devil is in the details of course.
/r/MensRights14/08/18 07:17 PM
3

Curious how this compares to other 4th sequels with an almost complete change in cast from the 3rd to 4th after having a relatively consistent cast through the first 3. Is making 86.5% as much as the third (when the 3rd made 85.9% as much as the second, which made 80.4% as much as the original) unexpected or "womp womp"-y? Oh, let's adjust for inflation though for fun (*I am not an economist and have never done such calculations before): Ocean's 11(2001): $450m; In 2004 dollars, this is 480m In …
/r/PussyPassDenied31/07/18 11:13 PM
1

Ah! I'm sure that's exactly what happened. Glad to know, thanks.
/r/MensRights28/07/18 03:01 AM
5

The word 'inherently' makes your statement wrong. If you had said 'effectively' I think it would be accurate. (Edit: by 'accurate' I mean an accurate description both of feminist description, as well as what would be a reasonable interpretation of the word, though you could apply it to a society, business, or any other scale.)
/r/MensRights27/07/18 11:43 PM
2

I don't see any links, sorry I missed them. The 'synopsis' is actually just an attention grabber written by an editor, and no thoughtful person would make conclusions about the quality or accuracy of the article based on those 2 sentences. Sorry i missed the link, why not just share the link you followed when you read it yourself?
/r/MensRights27/07/18 11:39 PM
1

What was in the article?
/r/MensRights27/07/18 11:04 PM
1

What did the article say?
/r/MensRights27/07/18 11:01 PM
-7

open and shut case bad rationalizations don't need responses ;-)
/r/MensRights23/07/18 11:25 PM
-21

Those bloodthirsty shakespearean actors. Now that the majority of world leaders, judges, professors, executives, business owners, and other positions of power and authority are held by women, they should STOP! WHEN WILL IT BE ENOUGH!?!?!
/r/MensRights23/07/18 08:43 PM
-28

why aren't attempts at corrective actions seen in the same light as actions furthering the problem? I just don't get it.
/r/MensRights23/07/18 08:41 PM
3

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/916mvh/allmale_shakespeare_cast_causes_sexism_row_new/e2wk3zm/
/r/MensRights23/07/18 08:08 PM
-43

I love that you are acknowledging a history of exclusion of women, but also seem shocked that all-female productions exist. It boggles my mind that you guys use "but what if the situation were reversed" and don't see how weak it is. "People are upset about an all-male cast? But there are all FEMALE casts, so why isn't THAT sexist? And besides, all the casts have been all male for 100s of years so why is anyone complaining anyway?!" That... that doesn't make you stop and think about the nonsense …
/r/MensRights23/07/18 08:06 PM
3

Keep in mind that you could also view this as an attempt to FIX the problem of disproportionate male enlistment/sacrifice. The reason men were conscripted and women were not allowed to serve is society's sexist attitudes and beliefs in the different inherent qualities of men and women. Breaking down this barrier helps fix the problem. Granted, the military already does allow women to serve, but that doesn't mean they are equally likely to be deployed to war zones, equally considered for promotio…
/r/MensRights13/07/18 08:56 PM
1

I very much doubt they would like to speak to me at all, though they may wish to speak with their legislature, and may wish they had been somewhere else with different laws and prosecutors when they were caught.
/r/MensRights17/06/18 05:21 PM
1

Which situations contradicted? And how did they affect your understanding of the underlying point about nudity laws?
/r/MensRights17/06/18 10:38 AM
1

Find anything misleading about my initial statement.
/r/MensRights17/06/18 10:01 AM
1

I'm loving the effort. You almost could have googled "indecent exposure" in the time that took. What response to your original question would change your current understanding of nudity laws? Vapid + edgy Whoooooaaaa
/r/MensRights17/06/18 09:23 AM
1

Oh I'm so sorry. By "many" i meant 34. I hope you can sleep better now. All that conflict and worry resolved in your mind.
/r/MensRights17/06/18 09:15 AM
1

K
/r/MensRights17/06/18 09:12 AM
1

Translation: "no really, I'm not gonna let this go, regardless of the inanity of my argument."
/r/MensRights17/06/18 09:12 AM
1

Laws are unicorns. Indecent exposure never got on the arc.
/r/MensRights17/06/18 09:11 AM
1

Translation: "You called it. I googled it and was wrong. But dammit you needled me a touch more and now I can't let it go, I HAVE to win this!" Er, no, I mean you definitely stopped in the middle of your googling in the other tab because you noticed you had a comment on Reddit, and from the nature of that comment you realized your google search would be fruitless so you stopped. Because that makes sense.
/r/MensRights17/06/18 08:58 AM
1

I'm going to assume that when you stop making an ass out of yourself, it means you finally googled it all on your own, like a big boy.
/r/MensRights17/06/18 08:55 AM
1

Assume that, along with " 'many' is equivalent to 'the majority' "! Just assume that your comments make sense and have a witty, sharp edge! Go nuts!
/r/MensRights17/06/18 08:50 AM
1

Can we get a rough number on what 'many' means in this context Sure go get it champ.
/r/MensRights17/06/18 08:46 AM
60

In many cases "indecent exposure" charges require that you be exposing yourself in order to gain sexual gratification. Generally there aren't many state or federal laws against nudity. However, many counties/municipalities have their own anti-nudity ordinances, and many police aren't going to make that fine distinction and instead will respond to a complaint and leave it to the courts to sort out. But in many places, there is actually no law against nudity, and indecent exposure laws wouldn't co…
/r/MensRights17/06/18 02:29 AM
0

ive heard so many girls Translation: he saw this on Facebook once.
/r/MensRights21/05/18 10:10 PM
1

Nonsense. No feminist opposes all those things following "but not." No, they aren't actively fighting for them either, because why would they? Their goal is to make women's lives better by fighting against things that harm women, not to make everything exactly equal by fighting every battle.
/r/MensRights21/05/18 10:09 PM
1

If you're not trolling than respond substantively.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 12:08 AM
1

Why is that "the thing"? Are you under the impression that no one engages in behaviors they are ashamed of, even in secret? Are you trolling? You seem to have no useful thoughts or well-reasoned ideas, and you don't seem to be making any points.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 08:55 PM
1

You misunderstand. I'm not saying they use it on the clit until the moment of climax. I'm saying they primarily insert it, but occasionally use it on the clit during the buildup. But for the majority, and always climax, they insert it. Also, your argument is that vibration is good for the clitoris but not good for the g-spot? I guess I have a lot to learn about women, I don't see why that would be the case. Can other women besides shoup88 chime in? I have her thoughts, I'd like more input. In pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 05:07 AM
1

I've watched 3 girls use a vibrator, and 2/3 rubbed their clit with one hand while inserting the vibrator with the other. Granted, they also rubbed the clit, but 2 of them inserted it at climax. (I had originally written 3/3, but now that you mention it, one of them did just use it on her clit.) I'll keep an open mind to the possibility that the other two were just doing this for me, but we had pretty open and honest relationships. I guess I never specifically asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 04:59 AM
1

I'm not sure I understand that distinction. Are you saying the only way to use a dildo is to put it at the same angle that a penis would be in and simulate sex in that position? Because if you're just using it to rub your g-spot, I don't see how it makes sense to say one is a pseudo dick while the other isn't. They're both tools serving a very similar physical purpose, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 04:51 AM
0

TIL Thought dildo was a more general term.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 04:42 AM
2

Yeah I guess. I always used them interchangeably. I guess that explains a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 04:42 AM
1

I understand you think that, because it's what you said. I asked why you formed that opinion, because it seems rather bizarre and unrealistic to me. I did go ahead and look into it myself. I found a paper on it. Forty-one percent (n=19) [of doll owners] report their primary sex partner is a doll and 37% (n=19) percent of that group answered “yes” to the question of “Do you feel guilt, shame, or embarrassment about your sexual desires or activities with your primary partner.” There's a lot more i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 12:44 AM
2

I'm genuinely curious how you formed your opinion that [sex dolls] are owned by shameless men who would probably not care either way [about the judgement of women]. Like if you think back... is this from people you know? Media representation? Interviews?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 12:33 AM
2

Oh no, the first part of this wasn't directed at you, it was only referencing your comment after I paged you to respond to your comment below mine. The first part was a response to the comment I was replying to, specifically I don’t see women boasting about how a dildo can replace a man while I constantly see men talking about how sex dolls are superior to women and how they will replace us all. Sorry for not being clear. If you read my comment in your inbox, it might make more sense if you foll…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 12:24 AM
7

I...ok? ...did you have thoughts on what I wrote? ...did your perspective as a woman influence how you received my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 12:15 AM
3

Do you think the men who actually buy sex dolls care about being shamed about it? ...of course, 100%, yes? I don't understand the mindset that would drive you to ask that. What is the psychological profile, do you think, of a man who buys a sex doll? A lot of lonely or socially awkward dudes care tremendously about the judgement of women. This isn't a "pity the mens" comment, as that "caring" may well come from a bad place (seeking women as a sexual goal or putting the woman on a pedestal and va…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 12:11 AM
1

That's pretty flippant. Instead of being so quick to dismiss the view, why not ask why they feel that way? I haven't honestly explored this issue, and my mind could be changed. But coming into this, I do view a fleshlight as different from a sex doll, just as I view a dildo as different from a man-shaped pillow. One is designed for physical pleasure, and I don't see any reason desiring a simple tool for physical pleasure would be an issue. The other, again in my rather unexplored opinion at this…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 12:07 AM
9

Blue-pill dude here, but I'm surprised that's your impression. I thought it was a pretty common joke/meme/whatever that a woman doesn't need a man because she has a dildo. Hell, my own girlfriend makes that joke about me on occasion. I feel like it's pretty rare to see a man talking that way, though I have definitely heard the joke made. Also a u/SpaceWhiskey, the last 3 girls I've dated all kept a dildo EDIT: vibrator (today I learned vibrators aren't dildos) in their drawer that they used pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 12:03 AM
3

You're all just pointing to the obvious, the same thing you don't kind most of the time when your views don't fit reality: Newsweek, like most mainstream journalism, is high quality, reliable journalism. The other is a little blog link to a niche magazine and is not a reliable source of quality journalism.
/r/MensRights22/03/18 07:14 PM
2

Not worrying isn't the same as not being affected. You might get sick from it an never know. There's a reason doctors didn't wash their surgical instruments for thousands of years and took decades to accept the germ theory of disease.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/03/18 01:47 AM
-2

Gets worked up over a clickbait title One of his complaints is that there are more important things going on
/r/MensRights18/02/18 06:25 AM
-70

You need to spread your legs the way women need the toilet seat down: you've taken an absurd stance and rationalized it. You can keep your legs in your in damn space workout crushing your own balls. Jesus Christ what a bunch of babies.
/r/MensRights18/02/18 06:24 AM
2

What about GQ?
/r/MensRights18/02/18 03:48 AM
5

Yuuuuuuup.
/r/MensRights18/02/18 03:48 AM
5

What about GQ?
/r/MensRights18/02/18 03:48 AM
-14

Yes, it is that Vice, quoting Tom Ford being interviewed in GQ. Vice just asked people what they thought about the GQ interview, and shared their responses, most of which were highly critical of it. Oh, you only read the headline and drew all your conclusions from it? Shocker.
/r/MensRights18/02/18 03:47 AM
-119

why men feel the need to spread their legs when they're sitting down I don't? And neither do most men I know? Everyone likes to relax, men or women. That's not a "need" it's just, duh. Some people are raised to be assholes and not think about how they are affecting others, and so they don't make the tiny effort of keeping their body limited to their seat and the space in front of it. If that's you, stop pretending you do it because you're a man, and acknowledge that you're just being an inconsid…
/r/MensRights18/02/18 03:45 AM
1

WHAT'S THIS?! A WOMAN SAID SOMETHING BAD!? ALL OF YOUR VIEWS ARE DEFINITELY CORRECT! I CAPITULATE! how could this have happened to me
/r/MensRights17/02/18 09:21 PM
1

no true scotsman Wow, you really do not know your fallacies. I know the most stunted men who are abusive, angry, etc, who get far more poon than decent guys I know. Why? Because you are a bad judge of character, dont' know what makes a person "decent," don't live in areas where wealthy successful people tend to live (these traits are probably far more common among low social classes and rural areas), and because the shitty men you know probably have lower standards, are more interested in sleepi…
/r/MensRights17/02/18 09:20 PM
1

That women selected for stronger men is self-evident. Otherwise men wouldn't be bigger and stronger than women. 1) Or men competed physically for women 2) Or men compete among each other for resources d 3) Or culture divided gender-based roles in such a way that fit men were a greater survival benefit than fit women-- which could be as simple as "the one with the active mammary tissues stays with the baby, the other leaves the home to fight/hunt" You don't understand how selection pressure works…
/r/MensRights17/02/18 04:52 PM
2

You realize that's an absurd dichotomy to make, right? Most people, if they have a choice, would rather have more money than less coming into their household. Preferring someone with a good job is far from preferring a "dominant" male. Yes, most women do go with nice guys, though. Just not "nice" by the definition of emotionally stunted man-children who obsess over tactics required to attract women. Well-adjusted men who are kind get lots of tail without showing any kind of "dominance."
/r/MensRights17/02/18 04:42 PM
-1

When nearly every serial killer gets love letters from hundreds of women, there's something to that. How dumb are you? Seriously. 1) You have not even attempted to show that "nearly every" or even many serial killers get hundreds of love letters. You posted one guy who writes crime fiction novels who mentions (with one reference even!) a handful of men who got love letters. None of this makes the case that this is typical. Do you know whether these men are all particularly charismatic? Do you ha…
/r/MensRights17/02/18 01:41 AM
0

Having others do what you want them to do is pretty much the definition of domination And it's such a broad definition that it's meaningless. Are you trying to tell me that any form of persuasion-- trickery, bribery, blackmail, intimidation, confident assertions, finding shared goals and interests, rewarding appropriate behavior, punishing bad behavior, literally anything else that encourages desired behavior-- is a form of "dominance" and makes the practitioner of that behavior more likely to b…
/r/MensRights17/02/18 01:25 AM
1

I know I see over and over how you guys use these little stories to validate all your beliefs. Women are individuals, and some women are attracted to things like dangerous men, powerful men, etc. Some are not. Those "hundreds" of love letters amount to a meaningless fraction of all women. Go ahead and ask the women in your life (I'm sure there are a lot) if they feel aroused or attracted to the men in your article, and then report back what percent are. In addition, nothing about being a serial …
/r/MensRights17/02/18 01:21 AM
-2

Step 2 is for you read a few basic texts on biology and anthropology Summa Cum Laude in biology here! Now a veterinarian. Tell me more! Why are you blathering about STEM? That has literally nothing to do with our discussion. I mention that women like Madeline Albright likely see relationships with men as a hindrance to their professional ambition, and you reply with a stat about STEM? And you talk about the 1950's? Get a grip. I'm sure you have a hair-trigger over wage gap comments due to widesp…
/r/MensRights17/02/18 12:17 AM
-1

Oh okay! Marvellous analogy! Thanks for your contribution! Got a shred of evidence that women are selecting for men who are school shooters and mass murderers? Maybe you can show me pictures of Harris and Klebold's harem? Maybe you can show me the woman's fan club for Dylan Roof? Maybe you have a list of the conjugal visits for Timothy McVeigh? I recall that Elliot Rodgers went on a shooting because he was a dominant male that had so many women lined up for fucking that he became exhausted, lost…
/r/MensRights16/02/18 09:43 PM
-3

You or objective reality? Lol. Cherry-picking and discussion within echo chambers isn't "objective reality." I see very little purpose in debating such a strongly internalized belief of yours that you clearly have based much of your outlook towards the world around. [Ninja edit: but here I go anyway, sigh. I can't help myself.] I do need to point out one obvious thing: we live in a society where women, but not men, pay a professional penalty for being in relationships when an employer suspect th…
/r/MensRights16/02/18 09:38 PM
-3

"dominance selection" Lol. Nonsense. Having the confidence to speak up in the presense of a woman has nothing to do with dominating women or dominating other men. It's just having some confidence in yourself, and more importantly, having an upbringing that didn't teach you to fear or hate women or to be constantly on your guard for what some other male might be thinking about you.
/r/MensRights16/02/18 09:28 PM
-9

This entire comment is based on a false premise, and everything that flows from that is wrong. It's only your little subculture that believes women want dominant males. There is also no connection between confidence in social settings or willingness to take risks, and the chance of becoming a school shooter. I understand these beliefs are appealing but they are not accurate.
/r/MensRights16/02/18 07:41 PM
-36

This comment would mean so much more on a sub not dedicated to barely-concealed misogyny. (yes I know I know it's just standing up for the eroding rights of men in a world where women expect blah blah blah blah)
/r/PussyPassDenied24/01/18 07:05 AM
1

So triggered
/r/MensRights13/01/18 02:54 PM
-2

I hope you understand this has nothing to do with my point. I didn't argue "there can not be any argument against feminism." I didn't argue "there is no call for Men's Rights." I pointed out that this, as with many of your posts, is a bunch of people getting worked up over nothing more than an implication, a title, a word or phrase or sentence, without any knowledge whatsoever about what was actually said or written. By the way, I'll laugh pretty hard at your last paragraph. Yes, just like there…
/r/MensRights13/01/18 12:41 AM
-10

It's incredible how many of the right-wing/anti-fem/anti-progress arguments are based on titles and subtitles and nothing more. Wait no, it's not-- it's unsurprising.
/r/MensRights12/01/18 08:33 PM
0

Wait what? Violating the 1st amendment is constitutional? Is everyone in this subreddit an idiot? Keeping accused secret until found guilty has nothing to do with the constitution, and 1452 (as of now) people are fucking dumb.
/r/MensRights19/12/17 07:58 AM
0

Your first 5 paragraphs all center around one claim: it is true that Hillary Clinton laughed about the case, and that this claim this is mostly false. This ignores basically the entire point of my comment, and it demonstrates exactly what I accuse dishonest conservatives of doing: using headlines, which are always simplifications, to stand in for the actual substance of an article. The claim being debated is not simply the headline or summary. The claim being debated, if you read the entire arti…
/r/MensRights02/12/17 06:10 PM
0

Hilarious. You shared an article where Snopes said literally nothing factually wrong, then you simplified the claim they were addressing, and then-- ready for it?-- you took issue with their one-word description, despite having no factual issue with their research. You claim it is a simple fact that Clinton "laughed about freeing a child rapist." But they posted an entire meme, which is actually what they were addressing. It's right there in your post. The meme contains many claims, most of whic…
/r/MensRights01/12/17 02:36 PM
-15

No, you are just very biased and don't read critically. Snopes is a very accurate source of information. There are no cases where it is factually wrong. You can certainly quibble with the one-word summary (I say it was mostly true, not partially true!) but the accusations that they "get it wrong" are usually based on putting two apparently contradictory headlines side-by-side, while ignoring the actual writing below the headlines that presents a well-researched, fact-based analysis of a situatio…
/r/MensRights01/12/17 02:27 AM
1

Too long to add these edits that I really wanted to add: After If I summed up your closest attempt at an explanation, it would be that confused women get divorces out of boredom I want to add "And then you followed it up with a Trump-esque 'and some, I presume, are bad marriages.'" And after the discussion of 70 cents on the dollar, I wanted to make note: some people, myself included, are scared of the solutions where judges/the law demands that jobs pay women equally, since they may actually be…
/r/MensRights14/11/17 03:45 AM
1

I noted in doing my own googling that nearly every result about shared parenting is from this "National Parents Organization," so I'm not surprised you started with them. Children in shared custody arrangements “do considerably better on every measure, from school success, to fewer teen pregnancies and drug use, to having optimism for the future,” said Dr. Ned Holstein, a public health practitioner and founder of the National Parents Organization So this head of a political organization based ar…
/r/MensRights14/11/17 03:34 AM
4

But is MR about opposing feminism? I thought it was simply about advocating for men's rights. I don't see how the nuclear family is a "man's right" or an issue that affects men particularly harshly when it's not preserved. I do agree there are issues with how men are handled after the divorce, although I think these changes also harm women (the man has to pay, while society has the idea reinforced that men should make more and women are dependents, for example).
/r/MensRights14/11/17 02:53 AM
0

Well okay, I deserved this-- I shouldn't have brought it up if I didn't want to debate it, even if I said I didn't relaly want to get into it. A lot of your claims are not substantiated (children would be happier if women worked more; having women who were previously out of the workforce and therefore inexperienced forced back into it, without the benefit of being able to go through an educational program/college, would close the wage gap-- seems to me it would do the opposite; feminists are the…
/r/MensRights13/11/17 09:29 PM
0

I don't want to get too far into your assertions about what feminists want, as I'm sure you could cite individual quotes for days and wouldn't give much weight to all the counter-examples I would share. I am interested in your divorce point. You argue that women are "incentivized" to divorce men. But alimony payments only allow women to keep up with the money they had when their husband was working and supporting the children... a divorced woman who has full custody of the children still has jus…
/r/MensRights13/11/17 08:44 PM
2

Can you expand on this? If you're talking about after a divorce, then we're not really talking about "my family in one piece" right? The traditional family structure in that case has already broken down and you're talking about how traditionally men are treated unfairly in custody hearings? If you're talking about a family that is already intact, can you tell me what parenting rights are currently not shared?
/r/MensRights13/11/17 08:29 PM
2

What does that mean?
/r/PussyPassDenied13/11/17 08:28 PM
1

But you're talking about after a divorce, correct? That's not "family in one piece." That's about custody after a family is broken up.
/r/MensRights13/11/17 08:27 PM
-5

Such a completely off-base and oversensitive fragile response. Sir_slick's comment didn't get any normal person's "backs up" or prevent anything from getting done. No one considers rape to be a "racialized" issue-- except loonbats like you who are already isolated from having a voice in any community that isn't a redneck wasteland like r/men'srights. Comments like yours just emphasize why you will never get anything but downvotes outside of your echo chamber.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/11/17 05:04 PM
11

What does "family in one piece" have to do with Men's Rights? Does a man have a right to a traditional family, or to live in a nation that doesn't allow non-traditional families, or is this about some issue I'm not aware of?
/r/MensRights13/11/17 04:48 PM
2

:( My work computer doesn't have sound... so I can't direct link to the relevant part. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRWuDsVmTg0
/r/PussyPassDenied05/11/17 09:02 AM
13

I'm so dying here, and I never want to know whether you meant this to be funny or not. In fact, I'm going to disable comment replies so it doesn't get ruined.
/r/PussyPassDenied05/11/17 09:00 AM
4

Note that this issue is being highly upvoted, and it's gonna get at least a little attention from people outside this sub. Please keep in mind that "women" make up 50% of the planet, and as such, have diverse views. Many, including many self-described feminists, will be speaking out on Kit's behalf when they see this. There may not be 100% agreement on use of terms, they may disagree on how important this is relative to other issues (eg arguing that objectification of women is more prevalent/mor…
/r/MensRights01/11/17 06:36 PM
0

You mean in extreme failure to practice fairness or acknowledge bias, right? You accidentally typed "in fairness" lol.
/r/MensRights30/10/17 05:58 AM
7

And I wonder why some feminists took extreme positions in the first place. Can't imagine there was or is extreme mistreatment of women in society.
/r/MensRights30/10/17 05:56 AM
2

Very few people question things they made up out of thin air. If they had the ability to be introspective, they wouldn't say dumb shit in the first place.
/r/MensRights28/10/17 07:14 AM
3

I think you make the fatal mistake of assuming an attractive man would have gotten away with it indefinitely. That's an entirely baseless assumption that you don't question because you have such strong ideas about how women (perhaps people in general, but especially women) think. We don't have a very big sample size to work with in terms of famous powerful men who serially abuse their power and end up sexually abusing people, and are publicly brought down so it's not surprising I can't think of …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 08:52 PM
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Dad 6'6, shortest of 3 brothers, I'm 6'2, shortest of 3 brothers. All of us played varsity and/or college football and/or basketball. None of us has ever been attacked at a bar or anywhere else.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/10/17 07:58 PM
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Might want to look at the ban list for r/conservative, and the posts that got them banned. You'll have lots of new badges to hand out. It is the safest of safe spaces for the most delicate snowflakes.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/10/17 07:52 PM
1

Sometimes after I read an article like this I need a breath of... whatever the opposite of fresh air is (this place).
/r/MensRights12/10/17 06:40 AM
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Why would joining an organization that regularly camps make you a worse camper? Like, I get that you were Mr. Backwoods and no one else shared your impressive knowledge, but why would the scouts living in the same area as you know less than average for that area?
/r/MensRights12/10/17 06:35 AM
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This is such a sane and normal comment. You are a healthy person.
/r/MGTOW11/10/17 10:51 PM
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Why exactly do you feel it appropriate to frame this statement in such ideologically diametric terms? I don't really understand the question. I thought it was pretty clear: I see two ideas that are in conflict with each other (maybe not diametrically opposite, but if you want to describe it that way, fine) that both seem to fall within the men's rights movement. Now, you bold-typed part of my sentence, and if you only read that part, you would come away with a misconception that would justify yo…
/r/MensRights22/09/17 04:33 PM
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I'm surprised that there are toxic feminists, who presumably practice a toxic type of feminism, but there is no such thing as toxic masculinity.
/r/MensRights22/09/17 04:30 PM
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Ah, interesting. So do you disagree that those are important parts of Men's Rights? I'm actually really interested here. I feel like there's some conflict between claims/individuals who say MR is about equality, and those who really do feel like it's just opposing the gains women are making that are perceived to harm men even if only by taking away what was previously an unfair advantage taht men had. So can you expand on why you quoted those part back at me?
/r/MensRights21/09/17 08:57 PM
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Are your two sentences meant to be related? I can't tell if you're using the first sentence to support the second in some way I don't understand... I'm going to assume they're related. If you're arguing that the mod does indeed stand for those things that I call the ideals of men's rights, then that's fine, but entirely unrelated to the multiple paragraphs of criticism I made explaining why he's a bad example. I never used his failure to believe those things as one of my reasons. Rather, I criti…
/r/MensRights21/09/17 08:40 PM
1

I didn't say that. Someone else brought up SJWs, a third person argued it couldn't apply, and I said it can. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/71iasl/lesbian_couple_who_beat_their_5yearold_son_with_a/dnbclmh/ Although on re-reading it I acknowledge I may have misunderstood what he meant.
/r/MensRights21/09/17 08:36 PM
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I want to know what's toxic about this group that justifies the SJW term, and I'll be open to the idea. Everyone's gonna bring their own ideas to the table, and draw different lines about when a subset of members or the entire sub crosses into MRA territory. I didn't use the term in relation to this particular article. but those that did probably perceived that there is little relation between a tragic story about a beaten child and the Men's Rights movement. For example, they'd say "everyone al…
/r/MensRights21/09/17 08:34 PM
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What I'm saying is I have never seen "SJW" be used to describe a men's advocate, or a white-people-advocate, or a Nazi... This entire discussion was spawned when you guys were called SJWs. So maybe instead of "never," you need to say "never except this one time." And then next time it happens, you'll say "never" but really it will be "never except twice." If I think about it and feel like it, I'll link next time I come across it. But I'm not gonna go around googling sources.
/r/MensRights21/09/17 08:26 PM
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I'm going off topic here, but: I'm not a conservative, I have big problems with both parties. These sentiments are not related. For example, libertarians are conservative and have problems with both parties. Not liking 2 specific political parties out of the thousands that exist in the world and the hundreds that exist in the United States doesn't mean you aren't a conservative. I think this comic describes what you're doing: https://www.xkcd.com/774/ maybe other communities ... are starting to …
/r/MensRights21/09/17 07:50 PM
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We agree that SJWs describe a group of toxic people who see any offense and constantly are in the search for any offense to start a campaign against, who have become aggressively more and more political. We agree that their actions hurt their cause way more than it helps it because of its mob mentality. The only place we differ, as I said earlier, is you argue that SJW only applies to feminism. But it has long been applied, even among the groups that originated it, to describe other groups who s…
/r/MensRights21/09/17 07:44 PM
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No. Edit: apparently I never provided my definition, so I apologize for the error. I could have sworn I wrote a sentence describing my views, maybe it was in another tread. Leaving initial comments in place in case you already read them/are replying. Edit 2: I did provide the definition I use in a different part of this thread. Link You seem to be arguing in good faith, but it's frustrating that 2 comments ago I literally wrote what I consider to be a definition of an SJW, and now you're putting…
/r/MensRights21/09/17 07:23 PM
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When I (and I think most people) That is the point I disagree with. I provided the definition that I (and I think most people) are using. Your group coined the phrase as insult, but a much larger group of people sees the same traits you're insulting among members of your group. To put it differently: just because you support MRAs and don't like feminists doesn't mean that the derisive term you use against feminists can't be equally applied against MRAs by people who feel the opposite.
/r/MensRights21/09/17 06:20 PM
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What about a shrill preachy vegan who also happens to be a male chauvinist? Would you refuse to call him an SJW?
/r/MensRights21/09/17 05:19 PM
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Eh, only because you think you get to control how the word is used, and because you have a positive view of yourself and a negative view of your opponent. "SJW" in most peoples minds just connotes someone who is annoying/shrill on behalf of an identity politics issue. You of course deny that you're annoying or shrill, or that your issue is one of identity politics, but to me and many others, many posts on the front page fit that bill perfectly.
/r/MensRights21/09/17 05:18 PM
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My 2c on ways you could make this comment more effective to visitors from r/all: In the first paragraph, you gave exactly one example of violence stereotypically attributed to men but also possible from women. I understand the goal-- this is "the type of thinking we need to counter" and a counter-example. However, for someone not already sympathetic to your view, this example seems way out of proportion/context (you went from two women beating their child to nations at war) and sounds a bit extr…
/r/MensRights21/09/17 05:16 PM
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It's fine that you think that... I don't see a relationship, and neither does my girlfriend. Many people are quite happy in open relationships. I'm frankly not sure it's healthy to look at "getting cucked" as some kind of "punishment" meted out to those who are "deserving" of it, but to each his own. Go and get your cuck on if it's what you're into.
/r/MensRights17/09/17 01:27 AM
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she cheated on him, morally one of the worst things you can do I'll never understand this. I mean, I expect it, don't get me wrong. People think like this, I know they do, I see it all around me. But how on earth does this qualify as serious? Humans have sexual urges, and sometimes they act on them. Why is that the end of the world? Why is it "morally awful?" Why does it automatically mean the end of a relationship? Don't get me wrong, I don't fault an individual for leaving someone after being …
/r/MensRights17/09/17 12:46 AM
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Yeah, I'm not more a fan of the term "mansplaining" than the next guy, but I don't understand why anyone thinks the guy's response was reasonable. The first part--explaining that the advice is wrong and counter-productive-- is great, and needed to be said. Every other post was entirely useless as a response to her thread. And then he continued going on about it after it was made abundantly clear that his response was unrelated to the point of the original tweet-- that hey, we're trying to help p…
/r/MensRights07/09/17 08:02 PM
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And you'd never use Craigslist, or Uber, or AirBnB, etc. The world is terrifying if you focus on nothing but the extremely rare awful outcomes. The idea that you wouldn't have sex on a college campus... Lol.
/r/MensRights21/08/17 10:40 PM
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You've jumped the shark. This is just making shit up about the other side.
/r/MensRights21/08/17 10:37 PM
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I'm a veterinarian. You're full of shit. Small animal practice pays more than large. There are student loan forgiveness programs awarded to vets who will agree to go into under-served rural areas, because the salaries aren't high enough to attract large animal vets without government subsidies. The labor supply may be a factor, I don't know, but it's certainly a small one, and certainly not one discussed in the journals and studies you vaguely cite which I pay close attention to, published by AV…
/r/MensRights04/07/17 10:57 PM
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Where the fuck are you getting your data? That's nonsense.
/r/MensRights04/07/17 10:15 PM
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U sound mad
/r/PussyPassDenied17/06/17 10:49 PM
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You posted before my edit, so to be sure you're reading what i wrote, here's the edit: Edit: the most obnoxious thing is that you keep insisting the photo "literally demonstrates" what you claimed. No, dumbass. It does not. You claim there was a survey that forced you to give inaccurate answers. The question without a "no" option was not a survey question. They are not going to be reporting in their study "what percentage of students asked to be subscribed for more information?" This is not a qu…
/r/PussyPassDenied17/06/17 12:03 AM
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I don't believe that it said what he asserts or recalls that it says. You have no photographic evidence that you can provide, and the two photographs you provided absolutely do not show anything like what you are asserting happened. If you only took these two photos, you are very bad at thinking on your feet, and you really should have taken a photo of something worth getting upset over. There is nothing to get upset with at all in the first photo-- you are being whiny and hysterical, and in the…
/r/PussyPassDenied16/06/17 11:49 PM
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If you don't understand the difference between a joke at the end of a survey regarding subscribing for more info vs actually structuring the survey to allow only yes answers, I don't know what to tell you. How unfortunate that you apparently took all these photos in the same day, likely with the same device, and sent them all to your brother, but this is the only one you managed to have access to today. Very unusual, device malfunction maybe?
/r/PussyPassDenied16/06/17 03:41 PM
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Hahahaha you crack me up. For anyone too lazy to read it, after the survey they asked whether you want to subscribe to receive more info, and all the answers are some form of "yes." Whiny victim boy here wants to pretend that this was a nefarious scheme forcing him to give untrue responses to survey questions.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/06/17 12:46 PM
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R/thathappened
/r/PussyPassDenied16/06/17 12:38 PM
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Also you did not address my point at all Oh I'm sorry I must have missed that part where you made any good arguments. Let me go through your original statement point-by-point. that 98% figure is very blown up Ok. Feel free to find the exact number, in the meantime I'm sur eou realize my argument stands perfectly well with any reasonably high number. If it makes you feel better, replace "98%" with "a large amount." that doesn't take into account all those who post to those other subs but never po…
/r/PussyPassDenied14/06/17 02:50 AM
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Op already said he wasn't talking about child support, when I pointed out how he was likely responding to a discussion about rape by interjecting concerns about reduced income. Try again.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/06/17 08:31 PM
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Oh, it's like imprisoning blacks, is it? So it's equivalent to taking away your freedoms and locking you in a prison cell when you can't post on 2xc? Are you sure it's not more like being told you can't donate blood if you've been to a country with zika? Don't get all hysterical please. Have a calm adult discussion. Can I ask you to say plainly that you don't think being denied the right to post on a web page is like being thrown in jail? If you can't recant that statement then I unfortunately c…
/r/PussyPassDenied13/06/17 02:47 PM
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I just can't shut up when you spout such monumental stupidity. My favourite part is that all over this very page you have the meninists complaining that feminists act like there's no difference between men and women when of course there is a biological difference. But here you are blatantly ignoring the difference as if you never took basic biology. You act as if in one scenario, the man got the woman pregnant, while in the other, the woman got the man pregnant. The major violation in the condom…
/r/PussyPassDenied13/06/17 02:41 PM
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Yeah it sounds like you don't understand a false equivalency when you see it. In one scenario, fluids are going into someone's body that they didn't want there. That fluid will cause their body to change in size and shape, and will even cause hormonal changes that will affect their mind and personality. In the other scenario, none of those things happen. Equating them and then obtusely ignoring the obvious differences is pretty daft.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/06/17 02:29 PM
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Why not? If your job is to maintain a subreddit with certain standards, and you spend hours each day removing posts that don't comply with those standards, and you find that 98% of those posts come from people who also post to certain other subs... Aren't you just making a reasonable choice? Doubly so when you clearly state "you can appeal this choice, just reply?" Meaning if you're not a dickbag, they'll let you in after all? I understand you can try to turn this around and compare their action…
/r/PussyPassDenied13/06/17 05:30 AM
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So out of curiosity, was the conversation about taking a condom off during sex and how that constituted rape, and you derailed it by talking about some other point that you personally felt was equivalent even though it actually dealt with a separate personal peeve of yours such as child support/parental rights?
/r/PussyPassDenied13/06/17 05:27 AM
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So given physical differences that, broadly speaking, apply to men and women, it sounds like we should expect women to be more affected by catcalling and sexual objectification, right? So would you agree then that it generally is not a good argument, where these general trends hold true, to ask "what if the roles were reversed"?
/r/MensRights12/06/17 07:45 PM
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I'm unsure how this relates to my question. If anything, wouldn't this make men more sensitive to sexual advances and women more relaxed about it? In other words, how does your reply help answer the question of whether men's different response to objectification is genetic vs social/cultural?
/r/MensRights12/06/17 05:50 PM
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Do you think that's because men are just more chill and reasonable than women? Or do you think there is some kind of historical it cultural factor that explains that?
/r/MensRights12/06/17 04:02 PM
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I wanted to gild you for worst metaphor of 2017, but then I realized that, where most people would have had to work hard and hone their skills to come up with something so dumb, it came to you naturally. So I give you Reddit Silver instead. http://imgur.com/2Dyrzet
/r/MensRights16/05/17 12:07 AM
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You literally expressed the same opinion as him, citing personal examples, then denied siding with him. what you describe as "calling out bullshit in your own movement" sure as hell makes it sound like you're a MRA yet the sentence before that is contradictory. Yeah, I can see how someone incredibly stupid might interpret it that way. I made a general statement about calling out bullshit being important even in your own movement, which applies from everything from veganism to feminism to atheism…
/r/MensRights14/05/17 04:02 PM
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Blah blah cry some more. Looks like you're actually upset because you share the stupid opinion of OP. Two things. First: I'm not an MRA. Second: it's important to call out bullshit in your own movement so you don't look stupid. 99% of the submissions to this subreddit, for example, is you guys mocking the fringe feminists for saying absurd things, and you validate this as a target of mockery by pointing out most feminists don't oppose it, or passively accept it.
/r/MensRights14/05/17 03:47 PM
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I would think anyone who looks at a color scheme and uses it to assess whether the people commenting on the website are reasonable should be laughed out of the room and told they are fucking stupid.
/r/MensRights13/05/17 10:23 PM
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So if I were to judge you based on the fact that you think rationality correlates with color scheme, would you find that judgement more or less reasonable than yours?
/r/MensRights13/05/17 10:16 PM
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In light of comments below, would you like to re-evaluate the factors you use to judge other people's reasonableness/objectiveness?
/r/MensRights13/05/17 09:17 PM
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It's almost as if your ideas on how they should feel aren't based on a good understanding of their actual views, but a cartoonish caricature of them!
/r/PussyPassDenied29/04/17 06:20 PM
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I side-voted you. You can guess which direction, but I'm not telling you. I don't want others voting in the opposite direction.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/04/17 04:26 AM
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pssst... he was joking
/r/MensRights19/04/17 12:00 AM
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It defies reason to think that sexual dimorphism doesn't extend to our minds. This is of course true, but it also defies reason to assume that socialization doesn't have widespread effects. It makes sense to err on the side of caution at a time when we do have clear gender differences, some of which harm women (and others of which harms men) and assume that differences may be social, rather than genetic, because that gives us a chance both to get to the bottom of which is which, and also to fix …
/r/MensRights18/04/17 11:59 PM
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...and that's why so many boys get spoilers on their sedans!
/r/MensRights18/04/17 11:56 PM
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We ask smart kids not to answer questions in class sometimes if it seems like other kids are too intimidated to raise their hands. We separate kids into skill levels at times, and play sports where the less athletic have a chance to compete. But most importantly, your analogies are entirely off the mark because nothing was "taken away from" the boys, they weren't deprived of legos, and the experiment was short-lived.
/r/MensRights18/04/17 11:52 PM
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So you're not just a liar, you're basically illiterate. A study that shows women are more likely to be hired for the same job, all else being equal, is your evidence that there is not an unwelcoming environment towards women in STEM. "It's hard to get women into STEM. Feminists assert this is because the environment drives women from training or applyimg to jibs. The problem is so significant that employers jump at the chance to accept the few women who decide to enter the field anyway. AND THIS…
/r/PussyPassDenied14/04/17 04:45 PM
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Hey liar, Who "proved" there are no factors in STEM that discourage women from entering? When? Let me know liar.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/04/17 04:55 AM
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Lying does. Literally anyone reading this thread just saw you bring up studies first and then refuse to produce any of these studies claiming I brought them up first. Change goalposts all you want, you're still a blatant liar.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/04/17 09:07 PM
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Ah, well if the guy who is a regular on pussypassdeniwd, tumblrinaction, who unironically uses the term "snowflake syndrome," mocks conscientous objectors and people who dislike President Trump personally assures me that there are no factors that women might find unwelcoming at his place of work, then the case is pretty much settled.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/04/17 09:05 PM
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Eeeeexcept where you say I was the first to bring up studies, and where you straight up claimed there were studies "proving" your viewpoint. Aside from everything we're discussing, though, yeah you hardly lied at all. Liar.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/04/17 08:50 PM
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Please note: everyone can read this thread and plainly see you're lying again.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/04/17 03:52 PM
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Put up or shut up, liar. Studies please.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/04/17 03:31 PM
1

Never? Or not yet in this thread... In any case, let's go back to the part where you lied and made up studies.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/04/17 03:25 PM
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It's been proven over and over. I love it. STEM guy criticizes fem studies, then acts like the soft sciences can definitively prove how something makes someone feel. Bonus: invents studies that don't exist to prove his point.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/04/17 03:21 PM
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No, the argument holds that some bosses would likely not hire women at all or would value them at 45% or 55% of what they value men at, while others would value (and pay) them more. The argument literally does not posit, or require, that any individual employer recognize that a woman does 100% of the work of a male but that they can get away with paying them 77% as much money. It only suggests that the same individuals who value their work less pay them less. (As stated earlier, I agree the figu…
/r/PussyPassDenied13/04/17 03:17 PM
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"If there aren't any other factors influencing it, and there's a difference in gender participation, it must be this factor. There is a difference, therefore there are no other factors. QED." Rock solid 100 A+. I don't know how to put in all the little memey faces sorry.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/04/17 11:23 AM
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Lol, awesome. Yes, women are lazy, good job. I'm glad you have a fair and reasoned view of the world. Why arey ou even bringing him up I made an analogy. Are you generally questiioning the value of an analogy (which would be stupid) or are you specifically wondering about this decision to use that analogy (the answer to whcih is "it was a fairly arbitrary choice based on an issue fresh on my mind.") Do you understand that when you make an analogy, the thing you compare to need not be the topic a…
/r/PussyPassDenied13/04/17 09:59 AM
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Ahhh shit. I read this reply from my inbox and thought it was from the r/atheism thread where I am having a different argument. Your reply could have served as a reply in the other thread, and had the same awkward/wrong grammar that could either be from a computer pgorammer or an ESL person (you've since made changes, like deleting "then" from in front of "she's.") Anyway, now that I've got that straigthened out, let me explain why you are wrong. If there are factors inherently unwelcoming to wo…
/r/PussyPassDenied13/04/17 09:56 AM
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1) Did you have any response to the entire substance of my comment, or were you going to defend your poor reasoning solely by limiting your reply to a brief throwaway comment I made at the end? 2) What "premise" are you talking about? Are you discussing the thing you defended OP not discussing-- that abortion is equivalent to murder? If so, then the tiny number of pro-life women who end up getting abortions are the only ones this is relevant to. Do you have any evidence that this Swedish woman h…
/r/PussyPassDenied13/04/17 09:43 AM
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There's nothing in STEM that is unwelcoming to women except that there isn't enough women. So you disagree with the premise that STEM is unwelcoming to women. If only I'd though to address that, by typing something like You can disagree with the premise that STEM is unwelcoming to women... and then following it up with a "but" explaining why that would not be relevant to my argument. If only...
/r/PussyPassDenied13/04/17 09:35 AM
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I agree that the wage gap is distorted to make a point, and isn't nearly what people say it is. But your argument is so transparently stupid. If women are paid 77% of what men are paid due to discrimination, the same discrimination would affect the way the employer values the work of the woman. If the employer were as sexist as the common version of the 77% argument implies, he would see her (in reality) equal work as being in some way inferior to the man's work. He might perceive her as lazy de…
/r/PussyPassDenied13/04/17 09:01 AM
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And there is nothing wrong with that. When Donald Trump says we shoudl change the rules so companies stop shipping jobs overseas, but it comes to light that he made products overseas, does that prove he's a hypocrite? I don't like T__D at all, but no, it doesn't. He's arguing about the factors that lead to trends in behavior among a large segment of people. When someone goes into gender study and complains that STEM fields are unwelcoming to women, she's not in any way being irrational, hypocrit…
/r/PussyPassDenied13/04/17 08:56 AM
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Thanks for keeping it civil. I'm not good at that, but I appreciate it. I'm not arguing that employers don't have a mindset of fixing an imbalance, but that's different from a "quota." To me, the difference is important-- making a judgement call between two candidates where you feel they have similar overall hireability (even if their specific strengths and weaknesses are different) with gender considered as a factor, especially where there is a male-dominated workforce, is reasonable and fair. …
/r/PussyPassDenied05/04/17 11:52 PM
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Or it may be that the women who are willing to go onto a male- dominated field are exceptionally driven people, or that women are socialized to have better teamwork and communication skills than men (many studies support this) and companies hiring workers in the US feel those skills are more important than the raw ability to code (which they could simply outsource to India). It could be that due to perceptions of job requirements, males who are very introverted are drawn to the field, and they d…
/r/PussyPassDenied05/04/17 03:41 AM
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None of those things you described experiencing constitute quotas. The closest you'll see to quotas are when businesses have long discriminated against minorities or women amd they're starting to get nervous about lawsuits.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/04/17 04:33 PM
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Nope! You literally do not understand the first thing about civil rights laws and have swallowed a lie.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/04/17 05:26 AM
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And then you'd be asked to provide evidence of this absurd claim.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/04/17 05:25 AM
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lol
/r/PussyPassDenied02/04/17 11:49 PM
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There is no widespread problem with unqualified women being hired in computer-related fields.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/04/17 11:49 PM
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Woah, that convinced me! whoosh, eh? It's okay, happens to the best of us.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/04/17 11:16 PM
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...or because they had better social or interview skills than you. Everyone whines that there are people in their place of work that are unqualified. Now, thanks to confirmation bias, people like you are attribuging this to liberals and their quotas, but it predates you and that issue and will continue after that issue is resolved.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/04/17 11:16 PM
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That does not disprove No but it's pretty strong evidence it is not happening to a large degree. They do do such a thing ! :O Nah. Sorry the RedPill taught you so.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/04/17 11:03 PM
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but in this case it's pretty apparent that it's happening And now you get to the part where we all agree you're wrong except redpill douchebags.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/04/17 10:56 PM
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Nah, you wouldn't. You would have to be brazenly stupid not to understand what I'm saying. But okay, I'll do it anyway. Complaining that a group that is traditionally and currently excluded or dissuaded or marginalized is continuing to face that problem does not automatically validate complaints that a group that has never been excluded are alleged to have been excluded.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/04/17 10:31 PM
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Issues are the same regardless of context!
/r/PussyPassDenied02/04/17 10:17 PM
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That was not the point of the criticism therwise they wouldn't have said "92% of programmers are men". Your conclusion doesn't follow from your premise. They pointed out that 92% of programmers are men, so obviously there is not widespread shoehorning of women into the tech industry. Which is why the comic was criticized-- for implying they do such a thing, when they do not.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/04/17 10:07 PM
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And we're full circle. https://www.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/62znps/the_naked_truth_about_it_in_2017/dfqlzwy/
/r/PussyPassDenied02/04/17 09:54 PM
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Which aren't a thing... which is exactly the point of the criticism.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/04/17 09:48 PM
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Haha no, I know what subreddit I'm in. I expected nothing but downvotes regardless of the obvious fact that I'm right. Edit: What's hilarious is all the anti-feminists here are now, with no sense of irony, upvoting a comment that says 'if you offend me you have lost the argument/if I claim i'm offended or insulted I've won the argument,' when normally they'd rail against it. But it's nothing more than factional thinking-- they read the first comment, liked it, and I'm the enemy because I called …
/r/PussyPassDenied17/03/17 08:35 PM
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This is an assertion with no backing. Some rational people use ad hominems when they are annoyed, angry, etc Some rational people raise their voice. Some rational people use offensive words. But then, I am offended by the word "piss" so I guess you already lost the argument.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/03/17 03:35 PM
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Now you're just making wild, untrue assertions to try and justify a stupid statement. I don't like the term "mansplaining" any more than you do, but to believe anyone who would use it is either unintelligent or incapable of logical argument is simply to have your head shoved up your ass. Many intelligent people can hold views you don't like, can misunderstand the utility of a particular tactic, or can have a blind spot where they haven't brought their critical thinking to bear on a certain area …
/r/PussyPassDenied17/03/17 01:34 PM
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"It's a word that people say. I'm surprised you're not aware of it."
/r/PussyPassDenied17/03/17 01:26 PM
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Don't be an idiot. There's a whole contingent of slathering irrational idiots who make statements that begin with "Any time you..." and end with "then you lost the argument." In the middle, they will insert things like "resort to an ad hominem" or "raise your voice" or "act condescendingly." Most of the time they're wrong. If someone has a rational argument, and incidentally accuses you of mansplaining, they have not lost the argument-- in the same way that someone who makes a good point, but al…
/r/PussyPassDenied17/03/17 01:25 PM
2

Ok!
/r/MensRights19/02/17 02:58 AM
2

Ok!
/r/MensRights18/02/17 08:20 PM
2

I don't want to be objective and reasonable Okay! That's really all I needed to know.
/r/MensRights18/02/17 08:24 AM
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Ha! What a snowflake. You're flying off the handle because I exposed you to reality. You seriously cannot handle the word "feelings" in any context, can you? You seem to think I just used emotions to justify opposing reason. In fact, if you read my comment, it has nothing to do with emotions. The word "feelings" has several connotations, and if you cannot read objectively and reasonably, then you'll probably continue jumping to these emotional, absurd conclusions when reading statements that don…
/r/MensRights18/02/17 04:06 AM
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I always get these brief feelings that there is legitimacy in this movement from titles/articles/ videos, but then every time i come to the comment section i find this kind of b.s., usually upvoted, and the feeling dies.
/r/MensRights17/02/17 07:57 PM
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Nope. I said that historically there have been more males, and more males over time has lead to more males in leadership roles. My exact words were: I tend to think that it takes a couple decades for new grad vets to filter upwards into these positions, so all it takes is time The idea that you are hinting at, that this is an issue inherent to males/masculinity in vets, not a simple numbers game, was first brought up just now, by you. I think you're wrong. But if you want to hold your viewpoint,…
/r/MensRights10/02/17 03:19 PM
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...that's what I said...
/r/MensRights10/02/17 11:02 AM
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Things may be different in the US vs the UK, but I highly doubt it... while incoming students are all female, and the majority of vets are or will soon be female, it is still true that the vast majority of practice owners and leaders (heads of professional organizations, chairs of hospitals, vet school directors, etc) are male. So she has some kind of a point. I tend to think that it takes a couple decades for new grad vets to filter upwards into these positions, so all it takes is time, and als…
/r/MensRights10/02/17 08:27 AM
1

Just for you, I will! Let's see, I'm going to think really hard about this one... if someone who said those things said 2+2=4, would I accept it as true? ERm.. eh... yeaaaaah, I suppose so. I guess. Okay, dipshit, now it's time for me to explain why your comment is so breathtakingly stupid. At no time in my post did I say or imply that I rejected the central tenets of Men's Rights specifically because of the behavior of individual MRAs. In fact, I specifically pointed out that I strive to rememb…
/r/MensRights14/10/16 12:02 AM
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Sharp guy here. Mind=blown.
/r/MensRights13/10/16 11:44 PM
1

;D
/r/MensRights13/10/16 06:50 AM
0

Oh yeah. Socialism constantly pushes violence and bans at the drop of a hat. Honestly, they scare me. They may be the only sub even harder than this one when it comes to reminding myself that this one Internet community is not representative of a movement its best ideas
/r/MensRights13/10/16 04:24 AM
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Hi. I am subscribed here, along with feminist, socialist, conservative, libertarian, basic income, and other subs that may have ideas worth reading. R/ vegan is actually a major factor in exposing me to criticisms of my long held views towards eating meat, and is part of the reason i am now an ethical vegan. I was subscribed there for a few years; first i laughed at them, then i argued with them, then i had discussions. I tend to lurk a lot, ask an occasional question, and only weigh in with a c…
/r/MensRights13/10/16 01:51 AM
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