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libertarian (in principle, not the party).
/r/MensRights04/11/24 04:06 AM
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This comment is far too reasonable and nuanced for reddit 😆
/r/MensRights03/11/24 09:12 PM
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It all
/r/MensRights03/11/24 09:08 PM
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Working in a federal government agency that was staffed majority women (which is common), my immediate supervisor (female) would reassign my work to the women she favored so they could get credit for completing it, and enhance their careers, while holding me in meetings and interrogating me to wear me down with the goal of keeping me silent and resigned. When I called her out in email she threatened accusations of harassment, and claimed she notified me of the work reassignments even though she …
/r/MensRights24/10/24 04:34 PM
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Not far off the plot from Brave New World by Aldous Huxley.
/r/MensRights23/09/24 04:32 AM
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Literal pawns. Politicians don't even acknowledge them as people above their laces when they refer to them as "boots on the ground".
/r/MensRights26/02/22 05:40 AM
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Draftees always make up the most casualties as they are poorly trained and just don’t want to be there Definitely! The negative publicity surrounding the disaster of the Vietnam draft is well documented. Also with the recent push for gender equality in the draft, I couldnt see a draft coming back unless US soil was attacked. When government policy is bad for women, it's usually scuttled.
/r/MensRights26/02/22 05:38 AM
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Even in the highly unlikely instance of a draft, if Vietnam was any indication, if you can go to college and keep your grades up, you'd probably be eligible for a deferment of service as well.
/r/MensRights26/02/22 05:29 AM
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What country are you in?
/r/MensRights10/02/22 10:11 PM
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This guy is a troll.
/r/MensRights09/02/22 02:54 AM
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I just got banned from posting or commenting in FDS just for my above comment in THIS group Same. The auto-ban rationale was because MensRights are directly opposed to their agenda. That ought to be a good litmus test if ever you are to date a woman: have you ever been on r/FDS? Then nope very much! I like my rights and prefer people who acknowledge and respect them.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 03:49 AM
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If this is for real, please remember, you can still masturbate. That never stops feeling good. And eating your favorite foods. And reading (there's braille). And communicating (there's hand on hand sign)... Also, please call here if you're feeling suicidal.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 03:43 AM
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I'm so sorry, that is an incredibly difficult situation. No one says you have to give up though.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 01:13 AM
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We are ignorant of what the feminist movement has done for men. It has done a few things for men. Self selected many women out of our dating pool for example.
/r/MensRights01/02/22 04:36 PM
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Wait, why doesn't that woman have a baby on her hip and why is she wearing shoes?
/r/MensRights01/02/22 04:34 PM
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The right to hold the majority of corporate board seats and executive positions because patriarchy
/r/MensRights01/02/22 04:33 PM
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Agreed. Unless she responded with her age and he continued. Then the pedo should go to jail
/r/MensRights01/02/22 04:03 PM
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Wait... end what? Hopefully your uk citizenship and not your place on this mortal coil. The former has little value anymore, whereas the latter is priceless.
/r/MensRights01/02/22 03:58 PM
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Uhm I think they were charged with attempting to solicit a minor/attempted statutory rape. If it was for vanilla harassment most guys in bars after 11pm would be transferred directly to the clink.
/r/MensRights01/02/22 03:52 PM
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That's being too generous. Often predators take on the appearance of their prey to get close. "Wolf-in-sheeps-clothing" strategy, or a "look over there at these evil people" misdirect away from their evil
/r/MensRights28/01/22 07:15 AM
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I think it's his right to choose not engage in personal conversations and topics with whomever he wants based on his comfort level. Think if the tables were turned. It would not be construed as discriminatory if one or more men tried to corner a woman in personal conversation at work and she felt uncomfortable or simply didn't want to disclose personal information to these men, so instead she maintained her boundaries, gave a short professional answer (courteous/respectfully) and excused herself…
/r/MensRights27/01/22 08:43 PM
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But that doesn’t mean that the women of me too who were actually assaulted, should not receive their rights. No one is saying that. Men just want to be innocent until proven guilty. Title IX in colleges has been used to deny men their due process, which is unconstitutional. Men are being advised to not be alone with women at work or outside of work, ever. Workplace romances are basically a recipe for termination. Men are checking out socially, scholastically (fewer and fewer men going to college…
/r/MensRights27/01/22 03:58 PM
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They weren't operators... but we're splitting hairs arguing whether offensive combat and intentional property destruction by large groups with improvised weapons is "militant".
/r/MensRights24/01/22 08:57 PM
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Many good points. Also I hope your ivf was a success. Couple of things though. I find it interesting that your definition of toxic masculinity is "not asking for help, or admit when there's a problem." You do realize this is a value pushed by women, right? Studies polling women show men crying or demonstrating vulnerability is an instant turn off. I'm not saying it doesn't create toxicity, it's just more of a toxic femininity. Something women expect (unflagging strength) but then criticize for n…
/r/MensRights24/01/22 05:36 PM
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The most vehement accusers are usually projecting their own beliefs about themselves. Guilt has to flow somewhere when it's pooled up inside.
/r/MensRights24/01/22 05:27 PM
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This surprises me... Antifa and BLM, who claim to be leftist and hold leftist values, were trashing our cities in 2020. That was pretty aggressive and militant.
/r/MensRights24/01/22 05:21 PM
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I smell red pills on your breath, Neo. The robots are coming to put you back in your cocoon... 😂
/r/MensRights24/01/22 05:18 PM
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"Patriarchy and stuff, I'm a victim, give me cash, shut up." Men have been giving women resources to procreate since always. The mating dance has just evolved. When men don't provide resources voluntarily, their bodies are taken: tax (which gender do you think most government transfer payments wind up benefitting? slavery (child support and alimony unilaterally decided upon by a family court judge) prison (the only place to "escape" paying women is to become a ward of the state. The men of the l…
/r/MensRights24/01/22 05:04 PM
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Based
/r/MensRights24/01/22 04:59 PM
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If there's a safety issue she needs to call the police not AA 🙄 They love equality when it benefits them, discrimination when it doesnt
/r/MensRights20/01/22 06:55 PM
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If you're a follower of Christ and the New Testament, then circumcision should be of little value to you compared to following God's commandments, my man. If Jesus views it as of little importance, then why bother harming your child without his consent? 1 Cor 7:19, Gal 5:2-11, 5:6 and 6:15, Romans 2:25-29 & 3:30
/r/MensRights19/01/22 07:28 AM
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Feminism normalizes and legalizes workplace discrimination against men. Men need to realize they're in a war with women that they didn't declare and protect themselves accordingly. I've learned that the hard way with just about every female manager. The good ol boy system would've died out on its own had it not been for feminism, but there is a need for it now. Do yourselves a favor and find every opportunity you can to network with men even before you start your career (women dominate HR depart…
/r/MensRights19/01/22 07:08 AM
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"The New Deal" that helped pry America out of the early stages of the depression via government spending They tripled taxes to hire people, which could have enabled businesses (including mom & pop, the vast majority of businesses and percentage thereof as well at the time) to hire more people. Seems a wash at best except for what I said about all the make-work hiring and laziness of government employees. New Deal taxes were major job destroyers during the 1930s, prolonging unemployment that aver…
/r/MensRights16/01/22 06:00 AM
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I am in favor of government controlling the wealthy Sounds like you're a socialist not a libertarian. Stop claiming the latter, socialist . I believe in socializing See, just a socialist paying taxes is not a choice you get to make. It actually is: no taxation without representation, so... Paying taxes wouldn't be such a bitter affair if we actually saw the benefit of that taxation in the form of education, healthcare, and social welfare/safety-net programs. But we both agree we don't. Socialism…
/r/MensRights16/01/22 05:33 AM
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I agree with you that conservative politicians are the problem, but I also think liberal politicIans are as well. There are some conflicts in your logic: a libertarian socialist Against government and for at the same time??? government should have a huge responsibility to care for its citizens, ... while having almost no power to control your actions Well which do you want, because you can't have both. Big gov = more state control. Rather than a steep curve that levels off as income increases Yo…
/r/MensRights15/01/22 10:29 PM
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Keep your standards high for your own protection, your expectations low for your own sanity, and focus primarily on improving yourself and your situation for your own future.
/r/MensRights14/01/22 04:06 PM
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I agree with you that larger businesses have more of a challenge dealing with you on a personal level. Mom and pops can do it better and have more skin in the game. This is why I think government involvement is the worst solution. They're the biggest corporation of all. They also have the least liability since they aren't even bound by laws (the out of pocket burden of claiming a civil rights violation is on the harmed rather than the government, and they don't even pay damages) and because of t…
/r/MensRights13/01/22 06:08 PM
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NAWALT In response to "one-itis" Red pillers say she's not your woman, it's just your turn. Depressing philosophy, but based on the experience of a lot of dudes
/r/MensRights13/01/22 05:17 PM
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Refreshing and thoughtful comments, thank you!!!
/r/MensRights13/01/22 06:27 AM
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Sex drive varies from person to person. Low sex drive may make a person's pair bonding mechanism unnecessary or dormant. If companionship is necessary this could be something that could be had from close friends.
/r/MensRights13/01/22 06:21 AM
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in ways that would make Bernie look like a moderate centrist. I love how he dropped millionaires from "the millionaias and billionaias" when his book deals made him a millionaire. All politicians are in it for selfish reasons. That's why we can't trust the government with our tax money. I'd rather pay for-profit businesses directly for service. At least they have to compete for our business instead of coercing us to pay them. It's also hard to jive a pro-government stance with MRA, since (other …
/r/MensRights13/01/22 06:05 AM
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I sure as shit dont want to date a political conservative. That sounds worse than dating a feminist... Im a scientist and an educator - I can't nod my head along with the right-wing ideologies. What about a libertarian? Financially conservative but socially liberal. More freedom and less government. Kind of the best of both worlds.
/r/MensRights13/01/22 05:59 AM
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Am I the first to respond that some men (trad) WANT a family, companionship, relationship stability, and the legacy and sense of belonging that this brings? The risks are obvious, there are no guarantees, but one can lower their risk if they pick stable, moral, traditional women (the latter may require looking outside your State or even country). Values are everything when it comes to commitment. ALSO, fewer and fewer men are the breadwinners. I personally have three close male friends whose wiv…
/r/MensRights13/01/22 05:44 AM
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Keep building those skills man and you'll be able to run your own shop with a 10x income in a big city
/r/MensRights12/01/22 07:08 PM
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The ol monkey branch
/r/MensRights12/01/22 07:06 PM
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If that's all it took, you're not cut out for it. Need for approval/acceptance from others means you're still on the blue pill plantation.
/r/MensRights12/01/22 05:54 PM
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I've also heard them called herbivore men
/r/MensRights11/01/22 05:55 AM
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Going Galt
/r/MensRights11/01/22 05:14 AM
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This is the way! Retire early into your dream job.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 05:12 AM
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Speaking strictly economics, women lead to families and families are monumental drains on resources: time, emotional, financial, space, and social resources. There are the benefits of companionship and legacy, but there are other ways to achieve those if one is so inclined. Also some women are better than others.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 05:09 AM
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there’s a point where it’s not okay to talk about how horrible women are. But it's socially acceptable for a woman who had bad experiences with men to talk about how horrible men are. The point is the double standard. You know who's got the power by who you can't speak out against.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 05:04 AM
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The problem was you had a lot of guys who were furious with women as a group and used the sub as an echo chamber to talk about how horrible they were I think it goes a step further. Trolls sent to the sub to spew hate and misogyny as a tactic to intentionally get MGTOW and MGTOW2 banned.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 05:01 AM
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If you're asking that you're probably not one.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 04:58 AM
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😲
/r/MensRights27/12/21 09:12 PM
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Aka small enough to not have a largely useless HR department
/r/MensRights27/12/21 02:02 AM
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Aaaaaand you can download his lectures on YouTube for free so why bother supporting a broken institution with tuition fees?
/r/MensRights26/12/21 05:39 PM
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And force my beliefs on others
/r/MensRights26/12/21 05:36 PM
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Horny is telling you when to reproduce. Love is pair bonding chemicals to decrease your likelihood of abandonment and increase your offsprings likelihood of survival.
/r/MensRights15/12/21 06:05 PM
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You nailed it. Usually women control the frame of the relationship. Men are under the false assumption that the hard work is over once he gets her, lol. That's when the real work starts so pick someone who can handle conflict like it's a negotiation and be receptive to being told she's wrong sometimes or she needs to change something occasionally. And good luck finding those qualities!!!
/r/MensRights13/12/21 02:32 AM
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You can love someone who chooses to wreck their body with junk food and binge eating and laziness and your attraction for them can be replaced by resentment, especially if you value your own body and work hard to maintain it. If you're married to someone and they do that to their body they are effectively doing that to your body because you are one in a marriage. It is completely inconsiderate. In sickness and health, but if someone chooses to make themselves sick they don't need unconditional l…
/r/MensRights13/12/21 02:19 AM
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But what if you actually do want her to lose weight? Why is that wrong? Wanting to continue to be attracted to her because you love her.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 06:33 AM
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True. But free money to single moms led to their elimination from the family structure. Which is then used to justify their expendability like a vicious cycle. "See, they don't even stick around, they must be expendable. Prison and homelessness and incel life for them!" But everything worth sticking around for was taken away. Provider, protector, honor, respect, appreciation, gone.
/r/MensRights06/12/21 08:17 PM
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Clearly they're not much better if this politician is any indication
/r/MensRights06/12/21 06:24 AM
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Whoa don't get all logical and rational, that's bigoted, lol
/r/MensRights06/12/21 06:23 AM
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Wholesome Award to be ironic. And because you made me laugh.
/r/MensRights06/12/21 06:19 AM
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U.S. families will be destabilized like never seen Oh, you mean like how they were destabilized by removing men as breadwinners and protectors from the household by replacing them with welfare? Maybe men are only expendable to the extent that society acts like they are.
/r/MensRights06/12/21 06:17 AM
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feminism pushing the idea that boys are bad and girls are good, then discrimination is the obvious result. It's even more nuanced. Boys are treated like broken girls. I think the entire let's drug children (overwhelmingly boys) after "diagnosing" them with ADD phenomenon is a scam. Boys tend to learn more often through physical interaction. Boys especially if they are intelligent will be bored and their attention will drift and they may "act out" (do something other than sit in a chair facing th…
/r/MensRights23/11/21 07:37 PM
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Good point, but I'd like to add that circumcision is a discussion to have with a partner before you get pregnant, so everyone's on the same page. In fact the entire Non Aggression Principal should be too. You never know if someone thinks hitting kids is normal until you ask. Too many people rush headlong into relationships and child rearing without first checking all their deal breakers.
/r/MensRights21/11/21 05:03 PM
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And sadly in the Phillipines they circumcise so NOPE!!!!! You know it isn't illegal to refuse your son be circumcised, right? It's up to us to educate people that male genital mutilation is wrong. A partner will definitely listen if you put it that way.
/r/MensRights21/11/21 05:30 AM
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Sounds like they're buying into the anti-child culture they've been inundated with, which is kind of sad. They may regret it once it's too late. If they pass up high value men at the prime of their reproductive years because those men want a nuclear family, that's really their loss. Plus they've saved some traditional dudes lots of wasted time and heartache by self selecting out of their dating pool. Everybody gets what they want, win-win.
/r/MensRights08/11/21 03:15 AM
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And physically
/r/MensRights02/11/21 09:55 PM
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So it's actually the same guys getting laid as always, they're just getting laid by even more women. Who all feel just as special as always. They're just madder than usual that he doesn't see it. https://youtu.be/OxDFyn7FMgQ
/r/MensRights02/11/21 04:11 AM
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Yes. They are projecting their own entitlement on men. Surprise surprise.
/r/MensRights02/11/21 04:09 AM
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By outsource you mean...
/r/MensRights02/11/21 04:05 AM
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a 99.9% chance she is fucked up mentally and emotionally. Those are only two of the ways. You missed some.
/r/MensRights02/11/21 04:04 AM
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The older wealthier lesbians. Women of the entire rainbow flag spectrum are still hypergamous.
/r/MensRights02/11/21 04:01 AM
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I heard that being said in the 90's. But I went to a religious school, so it took longer for tradition to die.
/r/MensRights02/11/21 03:59 AM
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Well they paid for it. And they know it was useless. That's why they want it paid for by you. Either through taxes or marriage. And that's why they work in H.R. and require degrees before they'll even let you near a hiring manager. To convince you that they didn't waste their time and their (eventually your) money.
/r/MensRights02/11/21 03:55 AM
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..... the decent people are doing things like retire early and working 3 days weeks because they can. The rest are flat broke. I'm sure there's a lot of broke decent people too. But I think the money-smart hard working people are retiring early for sure, especially if they see their workplaces go all "hired and promoted because you fit an image and say the right things and have the right degrees." Just not worth sticking around for 30 years doing other people's work for them.
/r/MensRights02/11/21 03:51 AM
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I became meticulous at managing my money and bills. Even my doctor certified BPD ex-wife, who spent us deep into debt and then fought a scorched earth divorce/frivorce - I managed to keep all that from hurting my standing any more than the bare minimum - i.e. even though a credit report showed I owed 6 figures after the courts awarded her all the assets and me all the liabilities, I NEVER missed a payment, etc. Damn. This is not a financial literacy post (ie caring for the boat and having a life…
/r/MensRights02/11/21 03:43 AM
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Ive seen female only for rooms for rent, especially if it's a house full of females, but for apartments, that's someone who doesn't know housing discrimination laws and is asking for trouble.
/r/MensRights30/10/21 04:24 PM
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Sounds like she doesn't care, since she's got all the power in the house over you and these children. Move out as soon as you are financially able. And then call the parents of these boys and voice your concerns to them. The parents do have power in this situation if a sexist daycare manager is a concern to them. Your mom needs some empathy or at least some accountability regarding how her words affect others if she's incapable of the former.
/r/MensRights26/10/21 01:17 AM
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Sorry but feminism's harmful reach is not constrained by one dictionary's definition. That would be an over generalization on everything it includes. Which wave of feminism are we discussing specifically? I don't define contemporary feminism, but others do in the following ways: The fourth wave, that is almost completely defined by portraying men as victimizers? The fifth wave, which is defined by anti-work, intersectionality, and completely destroying the current systemto replace it with a new …
/r/MensRights22/10/21 02:47 AM
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Self professed definition and actual agenda are two very different things though. That's a very superficial argument.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 06:27 PM
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From Practical Anarchy by Stefan Molyneux (excerpt): "The government does not need taxes in order to wage war; it wages war because it already‚ has‚ the power of taxation ‚”and it uses the war to raise taxes, either on the current citizens through increases and inflation, or on future citizens through deficits. "This simple fact helps explain why there were almost no wars in Western Europe from the end of the Napoleonic Wars in 1815 to the start of World War One in 1914. This was largely because…
/r/MensRights09/10/21 07:37 AM
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They need it to level out the population if it grows too rapidly whenever the birth rates become artificially propped up due to government money printing and borrowing
/r/MensRights08/10/21 08:57 PM
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It's nothing new, shallow/cruel women have been ripping apart each other's looks since the beginning of time
/r/MensRights06/10/21 01:22 AM
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Many of these sorts of companies hire outside sales personnel. As long as you don't have a non competition clause in your employment contract just hop to another company and keep the contact info of clients who were unimpressed with her and the old company's other deficiencies. Use it as a foot in the door to entice them to the new company. Business owners follow the highest value in services and people.
/r/MensRights05/10/21 05:15 AM
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Self awareness is gold. Unless you're narcissistic/sociopathic.
/r/MensRights04/10/21 04:38 PM
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Let her hang herself. Then poach the clients and go independent. You shouldn't have to work for people who are dumber than you. Not for long. This is the way.
/r/MensRights04/10/21 04:32 PM
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This! Exactly. Sadly.
/r/MensRights03/10/21 02:23 AM
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Lol yikes!
/r/MensRights02/10/21 09:29 PM
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Hi
/r/MensRights02/10/21 07:58 PM
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Maybe after the nth guy in a row does it, and she's like, bruh, you gotta try harder if you want this pussay! Lol
/r/MensRights02/10/21 07:57 PM
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Hot women don't have to waste time or thought on guys that don't come off as interesting, so they don't. I've seen intelligent women act the same kind of dumb to guys. It's a shit test.
/r/MensRights02/10/21 07:51 PM
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This is nothing new. Old school pickup artists (PUA) always said unless you hold frame a woman will bore herself with the conversation and blame you. Perks of being an attractive woman is interesting follows wherever your body is, lol.
/r/MensRights02/10/21 07:48 PM
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Not always. I went to a college fair for CS majors, female hiring manager frowned at me and said I'd need more experience to be considered (like we're college students so we all have basically the same experience), a lady sat down next to me and started chatting with her, she basically said everything except when can you start. Degrees may not be useless if HR uses it to justify why they are hiring women preferentially.
/r/MensRights02/10/21 04:16 PM
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Harsh perspective. My understanding, and I could be wrong, is that first wave was about women's suffrage (right to vote) and second wave was about entering the workforce, to secure the same job opportunities that men had. Both seem to me to be about equal opportunity. Neither are good or bad per se, since there were benefits and drawbacks (more in the workforce meant lower wages via supply demand, less properly raised children, more hugely wasteful "feel good" laws being passed) It's what comes …
/r/MensRights02/10/21 04:09 PM
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end up in a better position with more success I agree that would be a just consequence to women buying into the rhetoric, but unfortunately its not what's happening. Women make up like 60% of college grads now and guess who are the hiring gatekeepers in HR of all the businesses? Probably like 70 or 80% women. And the laws favor hiring women too, which they will follow. So who do you think they will favor in hiring? So guess who will get the most jobs and become the most successful (financial any…
/r/MensRights02/10/21 04:40 AM
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How do you figure they just can't? They are attempting to weaponize girls and women against men. Even my 14 yo step daughter has been convinced by her female school faculty that men will all sexually harass her in the workplace so it's better to work with women. I just learned she believes that yesterday.
/r/MensRights02/10/21 04:22 AM
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They will argue equality isn't enough, they have to "right historical wrongs". Sounds like a euphemism for taking vengeance on men.
/r/MensRights02/10/21 01:41 AM
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I think she's saying she's not a feminist because 3rd+ wave feminism is B.S. and about taking rights and opportunity away from men rather than actual equality.
/r/MensRights02/10/21 01:38 AM
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"...after everything men have done to us..." If that's her experience with men, it sounds like she only associates with victimizers. Fool her twice shame on her.
/r/MensRights02/10/21 01:36 AM
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Does sound super creepy, especially if Sam is an actual Uncle, lol
/r/MensRights28/09/21 10:16 PM
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And the illusion of equality. Watch how fast the drafted get pregnant right before deployment.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 04:32 PM
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Nah, this sub is better because it has more staying power. Because of its name it'll make reddit look overtly anti-male if they shut it down. MGTOW can still talk about real issues here including gender double standards and anti male laws, which in my opinion is the biggest reason MGTOW even exists (because living separate from women is a powerful political move akin to passive resistance/conscientious objection we havent seen the likes of since anti war draft dodgers in the Vietnam era). the tr…
/r/MensRights22/09/21 02:35 PM
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It makes sense. Women are treated as human beings whereas men are treated as human doings. It's a social "sin" to judge women but men are constantly judged by what they do and what they can provide. As women age their SMV goes down but men's goes up as they age and acquire wealth and status. There's gotta be loads of animosity and jealousy over that. I mean just look at a post wall woman. Because it's "not her fault" there must be some man to blame and hold responsible.
/r/MensRights21/09/21 06:59 PM
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Damn that misogynist jock itch!
/r/MensRights20/09/21 08:31 PM
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Or strong male role models, since sometimes our fathers are weak because of how they were raised (it's a multi generational phenomenon now).
/r/MensRights09/09/21 04:22 AM
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they feel like I hate women or I am some sexist or whatever that is supporting inequality I just tried to explain that it is stupid idea to totally ignore biological differences and try to make equal outcomes. Reeeeeeeeee you dared to question the free money train! Of course addicts will turn on you if you question their enablers. Addicts to special treatment and benefits are no exceptions.
/r/MensRights08/09/21 05:12 AM
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I don't know how you can not think that he has at least some interesting things to say. And helpful things, especially for men who are languishing in self doubt, frustration with their lot, or lack of motivation.
/r/MensRights08/09/21 05:08 AM
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$$$$$$$$ Biological pulse toward security for the sake of the vulnerability that comes with pregnancy and babies. Marriage = security Access to resources Access to influence Keeping up image/competing with her hubbied and babied up friends and family It's a win win whether the relationship works or fails based on how likely it is family courts will side with and financially award women vs men.
/r/MensRights25/08/21 02:53 AM
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It's all expensive now.
/r/MGTOW227/07/21 10:24 PM
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This is frustrating as a homeowner. I've had to fire two workers in a row, one who stole, the other who was cutting major corners-- like trying to install things with no prep work or leveling, and all because I was seeking service at a fair price, neither gouge price nor cheap. I finally just did the work myself, because I can, I just didn't want to have to because I had more important things to do.
/r/MGTOW227/07/21 08:00 PM
1

In the U.S. men in what's considered "blue collar" professions, especially those in construction trades are doing amazingly well financially. They are so in demand right now they can name their price even with intense competition from first generation immigrant labor. Unlike, say, the STEM field, where in addition to outsourcing and H1B visa holder competition, men also get displaced by quota driven preferential female hiring.
/r/MGTOW227/07/21 07:53 PM
2

I believe "In love" is a concept defined by a woman's perspective and encouraged by the romance indu$try because of how profitable it is (lingerie, jewelry, vacations, restaurants, clothes, purses, wedding and other luxury industries). It revolves around how someone makes you feel and what they do for you. It is passive (no accountability). And feelings can change-- from one day to the next even. How much is someone else doing for me to make me feel good? While I don't think it's a perfect examp…
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 07:01 PM
4

It sounds like you are not pursuing MGTOW if these antics still bother you: Ghosting - would not be a big deal if you didn't crave a relationship or commitment. Do you hate the fish if you go fishing but don't catch any, or you catch one and it wiggles off the hook? Hypergamy - would not bother you if you weren't actively trying to date them and frustrated that they expect you to pay. Would you not ask your employer for a raise if everyone else in your job position was earning more? Sexual marke…
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 11:13 PM
1

I'm just pointing out how ridiculous this would sound if the magic vag wasn't involved
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 07:26 PM
0

"capable of supporting a family someday" when she just means her since she doesn't want kids is disingenuous. That's by definition not a traditional relationship. She wants the best of both worlds while the guy doesnt even get a fertile woman and has to support her. Sounds like the worst of both worlds for him. She is looking for someone who pays her to stay home. Why would she need to stay home with no kids if she could be out earning so they could retire early or live the high life?
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 04:21 PM
6

Alimony stops when the recipient remarries. The children are still his.
/r/MGTOW208/07/21 05:57 AM
7

This guy isnt just dumb, he's a tool. "I already know your answers to my questions". I've engaged in dozens of reddit convos with self congratulatory blowhards who say shit like this, and can't form an argument other than, "well because you are in a group of people who hold some particular belief I and everyone else can discount all the valid points you make", and then take one random thing out of context that you say and claim it's inaccurate somehow as proof that everything else you've said is…
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 03:52 PM
11

"This guy f*cks." Silicon Valley
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 03:06 PM
9

Women (as a population rather than as individuals) have a bias toward security to be given resources if they are available, and men (as a population) have a bias toward independence to acquire resources on their own. Since debt is slavery, it is antithetical to mens freedom bias. This is why the majority of consumer debt is a result of female spending and why the majority of commercials have always been directed toward women. It's also why governments have become so heavily debt laden. Because w…
/r/MGTOW210/06/21 04:04 PM
7

Reminded me of the expression "die on your feet" rather than "live on your knees"
/r/MGTOW210/06/21 03:58 PM
9

They were failing her shit tests for years. Now he's sneaking a piece of steak like a bad dog when his owner's away. Not gonna right anything buddy, she took your balls with her, lol.
/r/MGTOW231/05/21 06:24 AM
3

Exactly. Now he's feeding her kid, maybe later he'll be paying for his braces and college tuition.
/r/MGTOW230/05/21 06:13 PM
4

I agree with you. The problem is what this clown puts up with. We teach others how to treat us. If someone won't listen we cut ties.
/r/MGTOW230/05/21 06:11 PM
7

Pokemon... GO!!!
/r/MGTOW230/05/21 06:10 PM
1

He put up with it for 6 dates? His problem is he's thirsty. The solution is stop. Hope someone tells him that.
/r/MGTOW230/05/21 06:09 PM
3

Is there something wrong with me for thinking that way Because you came to this channel to ask that, you already knew the answer you wanted to hear. But I'll take the bait since this passes through a lot of guys minds when they adopt MGTOW beliefs: No, there's nothing wrong with you because: You're thinking for yourself You've got your life together-- you're independent and self sufficient You're choosing to not do something you don't want to do, which means you have healthy boundaries You're no…
/r/MGTOW224/05/21 04:45 PM
6

r/notarobot
/r/MGTOW206/05/21 03:16 PM
6

He died (to her) in a car (when he) accident(ally got her friend pregnant and skipped town).
/r/MGTOW204/05/21 02:58 PM
2

You had some really bad experiences, and I sympathize. Most guys on here, myself included, have dated some mean or damaged women. We learn from this, the number one lesson is how to detect and avoid these types. But there's more going on here. I strongly suggest counseling or soul searching to do some inner work on yourself. It can benefit you in that you may have more fulfilling relationships of all types as a result. A couple things stand out to me: You're trying to create a nurturing relation…
/r/MGTOW202/05/21 05:05 AM
1

And for the love of God stop blaming women’s expectations, stop blaming women for everything. No Lol ^ Deserves vastly more upvotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 04:46 AM
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This is a good distinction. Sub- 5'7" here, gen X-er, was reasonably successful with women in college 20 yr ago, wasn't until maybe 10yr ago I noticed how big a deal it had become for women to only date tall dudes. I attribute it to dating apps, women can order their man off a menu with the click of a button and they can date up (both literally and figuratively) physically with ease. That's got to inflate their sense of their own sexual attractiveness, and reduce the weight they put on personali…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 04:42 AM
14

Agreed, but maybe in some future scene he's got a tool belt on and is fixing the apartment up for himself, so he ends up with a nice apartment at below market rates, lol.
/r/MGTOW229/04/21 03:58 PM
2

I stand corrected, you are most definitely leveling up IRL with your gaming.
/r/MGTOW224/04/21 08:43 PM
1

They will keep raging possibly through your 30's depending on health and genetics. Do yourself a favor and evaluate each individual woman based on her values, morals and behavior before getting near her klunge.
/r/MGTOW224/04/21 03:22 PM
1

Both tinder and video games are dopamine based drugs my friend. Enjoy them in moderation but don't get addicted. There's a whole IRL out there. I'd rather be leveling up in my marketable skills and career, my wealth, my friends, than points and gold on a game. Same reward feeling, more actual reward.
/r/MGTOW224/04/21 03:18 PM
9

Many women use the possibility of sex to get what they want. The dangerous ones actually use sex to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 04:41 PM
1

As Seinfeld would say, you're the master of your own domain 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 04:39 PM
0

I had this problem when I was in my early-mid 20's. I'm shy, and felt worn out after work. I changed my diet to a healthier one, exercised almost every day whether it was weights, aerobics, or just taking a walk, and I saw my energy levels go way up and stay there. I also forced myself to go out and meet people, join clubs and sports leagues, and make an effort to connect and talk with people I didn't know. The more I did it the easier it got.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 06:35 PM
2

Don't forget to peel off a percentage of your earnings to reward yourself for that hard work. Give yourself something to work FOR now. You can save huge amounts without saving every penny. When I was in that phase of my life I used to throw $500/month into an account just for travel. During travel I gave myself a break from feeling guilty about spending lavishly, since I just drew it from this account full of cash specifically for the trip.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 03:47 PM
2

I just saw No Safe Spaces on Amazon Prime. College these days looks like a dystopian hell scape. I'd rather party and socialize somewhere cooler 😎 and with lower cover charges than tuition!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 03:44 PM
1

Bingo! The feeling of regret is just a signal from your body that you need to make a change to improve your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 03:42 PM
2

Just because you're autistic doesn't mean you don't have any attractive traits. Find the things you love to spend your time doing, and find others who love the same hobbies/activities. We can fall into the trap of belief that we're alone because there's no one like us. But thats just narcissism. We are alone because we don't spend enough time seeking out others and showing interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 03:31 PM
0

Rosy palm/Freddy finger. They always like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 03:27 PM
1

Existential dread shiver
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 03:26 PM
3

Some people seem to somehow live a rockstar life on a barista's salary. They must be pretty. People like to pay to have pretty people around.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 03:21 PM
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Women have historically been the gatekeepers of hetero sex, therefore gatekeepers of the children, therefore they choose what values the next generation of men will have by choosing their fathers. Birth control is relatively new, so we are hard wired to view any sex as choosing a father of your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 04:42 PM
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Maybe not punished exactly. If they're truly full package and commitment oriented they may just view you as having a lower RMV if you have a high count because you didn't "wait" for him
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 08:45 PM
0

the employee has to prove that they are part of a protected class Being a man is not in an of itself considered a protected class in practice. That you insinuated it was is misleading. Whereas being a woman is. Be a man and say you were discriminated against based solely on your gender without any other "classes" to point to (white, straight, sis, able). Your lawyer will shrug. Privilege under the law for women is systemic discrimination by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 05:26 PM
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Women are still limited as to which positions they can have. Not if they can pass the physical test required to perform that job. The same is true if they want to work for a fire dept or become a police officer. Last I checked, you can select whatever job you qualify for. Most That's correct. A higher percent of women opt for the cushy higher ranking jobs that don't require combat, than the relative percent of men do. Most people I know in the military have never seen combat. My point was if the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 05:16 PM
1

And ethnic names are part of culture, not race necessarily. White guys could be named Jamal if their parents chose to name them that. Perhaps you should name your son Jamal? And if not,explain to me why you wouldn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 04:59 PM
1

What do the 1700's have to do with where we are now, in modern times, equal opportunity wise? You're 200+ years off topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 04:58 PM
1

Wanting everyone to be treated as an individual rather than as a group isn't an agenda, it's a desire shared by civil rights proponents throughout history. "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.". --MLK What do you think Critical Race Theory and Intersectionality judge everyone by?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 04:34 PM
1

But if a black guy's name is John instead of Jamal, his race doesn't affect a blind review of his resume, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 04:28 PM
1

women having no say in wars, military, law, So... What you're saying is... Hillary Clinton had no say in wars or military operations... As the Secretary of State under the Obama Administration? Mmmkayyyyyy....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 04:27 PM
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You may be right about that one being legislation but this one was an executive order, which sits right over the top of it: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/433926/ It's about fear culture and the threat of lawsuit controlling the hiring behavior of companies, employment law is just a club used when they aren't towing the line. Frankly, you have absolutely no idea how much companies overcompensate to avoid bad press or suit and nothing in your comment shows any unders…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:51 AM
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When we allow absolutely every single woman the chance to die from serving on the front lines, then you can let me know how unequal their participation is. We do. It's called the modern armed forces. They still in this voluntary armed forces make up maybe 2-5 percent of soldiers who experience hot combat. Significantly more female soldiers have cushy desk jobs. The irony is many, (and I mean many based on reports I've heard) women get pregnant right before they get deployed, which means they don…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:37 AM
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That's not a race thing, that's a cultural thing. There are plenty of black men who are named 'John' rather than 'Jamal'. So it's the prejudice of the resume readers against a culture based on stereotypes. Still doesn't make it right, but the difference is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:24 AM
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Many women would have been happy to serve if they had been allowed. You missed the point. In modern wars there are like 5000 percent more male soldier deaths. Women did volunteer and serve in Vietnam and WW2, they just weren't on the front line taking lead and rotting eviscerated in trenches, because they didn't have to be. But they usually aren't the primary caregivers...because that's seen as a woman's job and, therefore, beneath him You have it backwards. The courts view men as less nurturing…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:14 AM
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It will probably worsen with unofficial hiring quotas of large corporations due to executive orders like Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act forcing corporations to submit to gender based audits of their compensation ranges, corporate wokeness PR campaigns, biases of majority female HR departments, and the fact that you can discriminate against men for being men with no legal repercussions, all making it incredibly harder for men to get higher paying jobs without being significantly more qualified than …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 06:52 AM
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I agree it's never simple. And nobody fits stereotypes. I e. The white guy who grew up poor, became homeless etc. vs. the black woman who was born into wealth, went to ivy league and made a career on family connections... People should just be treated like individuals rather than monoliths
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 06:38 AM
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I don't see at as privilege so much as trade offs. Men drafted to Vietnam and WW2 who got shot up and blown up: gender made it harder on them. Men having their kids taken away in family court and forced to pay for the theft: gender made it harder on them. Men being 10 times more likely to die on the job due to occupational injury: gender made it harder on them. Men receiving harsher sentences for equivalent crimes: gender made it harder on them...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 06:33 AM
14

But that's not a gender thing, that's a being born into wealth and contacts thing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 06:19 AM
1

I think the quote is backwards. Women don't want male friends, they (usually) want lovers, husband's, providers, protectors. I have sought out female friends in years past and frequently got the vibe that either they were attracted to me but playing the friend card to be near me, or they wanted something (transportation, free drinks, etc.). Like trying to friend zone me even though I was seeking a friendship specifically. Once I figured out it was a relationship of convenience, I tested it to se…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 05:08 PM
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Exactly. He'll just tell her he'll wife her up as soon as he finds the ring, he left it under her skirt somewhere. He'll just need to rummage around for it. ... Nope, still can't find it. Yawn... Well, goodnight.
/r/MGTOW223/03/21 04:51 PM
1

Not to mention possible crush injuries from the force of the impact and bite.
/r/MGTOW223/03/21 05:03 AM
1

Absolutely beautiful
/r/MGTOW223/03/21 04:59 AM
1

Wow! If you were to wear this stuff to a Ren Faire or a Celtic Faire or the like, how would it stack up against run of the mill chain mail? You'd probably look like royalty no matter who you stood beside.
/r/MGTOW223/03/21 04:58 AM
4

For a second I thought you said "peeing into another dimension".
/r/MGTOW222/03/21 05:52 AM
1

That's because men have historically been taught to sacrifice themselves for society. Look at every superhero movie ever. But because a lifetime female partner is off the table now for many men, and consequently children are as well, they no longer have an incentive to serve the future of society. If men are taught they have intrinsic worth beyond what they can do for others then they will no longer view themselves as disposable, and they will find meaning outside of what they can provide others…
/r/MGTOW219/03/21 04:34 PM
1

Internet is only speeding up because tech improves faster than population grows. That same tech means getting stuff delivered for cheap so you don't have to wait in lines. I'm more hopeful.
/r/MGTOW219/03/21 03:40 PM
1

Bunch of people repeating "bleak" and "grim". Time to venture off the island?
/r/MGTOW218/03/21 08:34 PM
1

Or save enough to buy a place in the Alaskan wilderness and live off the land as a hunter/fisherman/gatherer/trapper...
/r/MGTOW218/03/21 07:45 PM
0

For most guys, it's calling them "Useless". Just listen to Jordan B. Peterson about how men need a purpose to toil for or they go down a path of destruction. I think there is some truth in that sentiment. But where that purpose comes from is important. Is it to serve your own values, or is it just to serve others for the sake of pleasing them? I believe the lucky MGTOW eventually find purpose and meaning by looking within. It's a process though. But once you're there, it doesn't matter what peop…
/r/MGTOW218/03/21 06:40 PM
1

It's essentially where you earn and save aggressively enough in the first phase of your working years to stop needing to save for retirement, so you can take a lower paying/fewer hours/lower stress job and just earn enough to get by for the rest of your earning years until your official retirement. ("Coast" to retirement). It's a spinoff of the r/FIRE sub which stands for Financial Independence Retire Early.
/r/MGTOW218/03/21 05:56 PM
1

This is a great point: r/CoastFIRE is a worthwhile alternative goal! Work a little, play a lot for the second phase of your working life.
/r/MGTOW218/03/21 04:31 AM
2

Every dollar that goes to your child rather than an ex-wife is money well spent.
/r/MGTOW218/03/21 04:29 AM
7

They like it if the intelligence earned you a bunch of money, and you flash it, which signals you'll spend it on them. Sugar daddies have been a thing since forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 12:02 AM
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Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 12:01 AM
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Players and jocks don't care if a woman is intelligent as long as they get the V. Intelligent women like sleeping with jocks because they can feel intellectually superior (they love the ego boost especially if they are insecure) and they can get out of their own head with a non intellectual man and they like sleeping with players because it's fun with low commitment. By the time a nerd comes along he's already too late because the intelligent woman is an alpha widow and views herself to be on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 11:56 PM
2

Agree like 50%. People have innate selfishness (based on need as an infant) but develop altruism through learned experiences in which empathy was required. I learn to share and give back THROUGH those childhood friendships and social situations, because I have a better experience when it's shared. So I think we come to friendships like, hey this benefits me for the simple reason that I enjoy their company. The sociopathy comes when people have underdeveloped empathy and view people as means to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 09:50 PM
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Agree 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 11:38 PM
5

Best thing an average guy can do is make scrilla have fun enjoying it himself rather than spending it on women, DGAS about whether women like him, take female attraction randomly when it comes, treat relationships with women who don't significantly improve his life (beyond sex) like milk (with an expiration date), and retire super early in a foreign country that treats average western dudes like kings. Any other advice on this sub isn't going to help him get laid or be happy with his lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 09:16 PM
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not so much for a pasty white 150lb average looking dude guy or even worst a 230 overweight computer engineer student who just walked in from his engineering lab in an oversized flannel. But they can be the shoulder the ladies cry on after Chad pumps and dumps. And eventually either punishes for his Chad friends behavior or gets to raise the resulting illegitimate child if she's really desperate. So yeah, whipping boy or janitorial servant basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 09:12 PM
9

Great life if you can secure shelter, food, and comfort without work. What's your strategy to get those? Retired early? Invested well?
/r/MGTOW204/03/21 04:19 AM
36

Attractive western women are the most priveleged class on earth.
/r/MGTOW204/03/21 04:16 AM
2

Safety security food sex = community, shelter, wealth, reproduction. Maslow was onto something. We have evolved with a strong sex and replication instinct. I mean there better be or none of us would be here, because children are monumental resource drains and counter to an individual's self preservation instinct. There are other equally strong survival drives mentioned above. For example, wealth seeking is just a form of hyperactive food drive. Some of us think a lot more about money than others…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 05:19 PM
2

Simple: lack of strong male role models. Women raise most boys. Masculinity is viewed as toxic or threatening or dangerous. Men who had masculine dads who taught them to be strong masculine men have women problems too, they just have fewer problems attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 07:17 AM
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it just made me realize how women are and that they will support each other, no matter how utterly in the wrong they are. This is true with the worst kind of women, and they are numerous. It's hen pecking. They have their own hierarchy and if they decide you've gotten out of place they will attack. Don't let her negative thinking about an entire gender rub off on you though. That's just carrying around emotional baggage that will eat you up inside. She was baiting you to lash out at her and you …
/r/MGTOW204/02/21 04:47 PM
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Like judging other guys for going to a whore but pays for his dates meals and trips and jewelry in hope of sex.
/r/MGTOW231/01/21 04:12 PM
5

Just tell them your standards are higher than any of the women you've yet to meet. That you won't settle. Tell them you know your worth and you're in no hurry. You're prioritizing other things right now. That should get them off your back, and probably keep the low quality women away as a bonus.
/r/MGTOW230/01/21 05:09 PM
1

The human brain, like the lobster's, is wired to receive serotonin through domination. But it can also receive it in less zero sum ways. It's just when the domination obsessed close the door on opportunities to achieve it in other ways that society becomes zero sum. I believe we're re-entering such an era. Death of the middle class, the traditional family, the honoring of masculinity (not to the exclusion of femininity but in conjunction with), and even private ownership of the means of producti…
/r/MGTOW230/01/21 04:49 PM
2

Tell her you were planning on getting back with her if it doesn't work out with her sister, lololol
/r/MGTOW227/01/21 07:05 AM
1

Emoji checks out (🐻 🌿)
/r/MGTOW227/01/21 06:58 AM
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Im planning on opening an IRA this year, on top of my company sponsored retirement savings account that I already max out. I'm just going to go through Vanguard online, and invest in some basic broad market fund. The r/FIRE community really likes VTSAX ETF but there's no wrong way to go as long as I diversify. Not an advisor of any sort, just telling you what I'm going to do. Roth IRA is good if you want to invest after tax dollars and not pay tax on your gains, standard IRA is good if you want …
/r/MGTOW227/01/21 06:47 AM
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Even if he invested heavily for only the next TWO decades, at his age and income level, he could COAST for another two or three decades (just earning enough to live on), and then retire, and he'd still be a millionaire several times over with what he'd invested in his 20s and 30s. Ahhh the power of compound interest. Youth is wasted on the young.
/r/MGTOW227/01/21 06:40 AM
4

How many people do you think can actually pay for their kids college? All you need is to have a hard conversation with your kids about what you can and can't do so they can start preparing their own plans for their adult future and finding ways to pay for their career prep themselves.
/r/MGTOW225/01/21 04:29 PM
4

Gray Man
/r/MGTOW224/01/21 07:25 PM
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This exactly! Someone in the r/leanFIRE sub recommended a book called Your Money or Your Life, which hits on all the hidden costs of prioritizing earning over living. Those are a couple of them.
/r/MGTOW224/01/21 07:23 PM
3

You took the right road. The thing is if she knew you had a paid for house she'd become interested in you for the wrong reasons. She would try to spend the equity for you then demand you got a higher paying job to keep her in her lifestyle she's become accustomed to. Your money would be buying purses and shoes instead of time.
/r/MGTOW224/01/21 05:48 PM
2

You learned it's a waste of time to chase women. You should congratulate yourself for learning this lesson so young. Men don't have success when they chase women, they have success when they attract them. They don't attract them by changing themselves to conform to what women want, they attract them by creating a great life for themselves: Whatever it is that you desire to work towards in your life. Popularity? Money? Career success? Adventure? Mastery of a skill or art or craft? Work to become …
/r/MGTOW222/01/21 02:58 AM
5

You’ll be told to believe all of these Democratic and liberal politics, the future is female, all white men suck and are out to get women and screw them over, and that to me is no place for a guy. It’s literal indoctrination. Well thought out comment! Concerning this specifically, this rhetoric is used to dehumanize men, so it becomes socially acceptable to take things from them without conscience getting in the way (through taxation, job discrimination, voice silencing, imprisonment, and slaver…
/r/MGTOW221/01/21 08:56 PM
4

I think there's a lot of snobbery that leads to that debt. You can still get your first two years cheap at a community college (free in certain states). Then a public in-state university isn't bad as long as you're studying something that will lead to a guaranteed career (STEM, accounting, etc). So it still serves a purpose. Also, if you notice who suffered the least during COVID, it's those with office jobs that required college degrees. They worked from home and still got paid.
/r/MGTOW221/01/21 08:39 PM
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Fortunately traditional universities aren't the only place to learn.
/r/MGTOW221/01/21 06:25 PM
3

If you're broke and you marry a rich woman, the benefits are you become rich.
/r/MGTOW221/01/21 07:16 AM
7

Better start throwing closer to $2000 a month into investments, unless you don't plan to retire until your 80's.
/r/MGTOW221/01/21 07:13 AM
3

36 isn't a boomer, it's a boomers kid... A millennial (albeit an old one).
/r/MGTOW221/01/21 07:07 AM
5

Perhaps you've never been a single man in a loud club trying to get female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 06:47 PM
3

Maybe someone who's been told to date lower/looksmatched after failing to date up?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 06:45 PM
1

Step 1: log on to your bank account Step 2: check balance
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 06:44 PM
13

Marriage is a two way street. Punishing men for the decisions of women not to marry sounds like typical gynocentric bullshit
/r/MGTOW219/01/21 04:35 PM
3

If you're male you become more desirable as you reach your late 20s. You have resources, and you can date younger women 18-25 without any stigma because you're still young. Really no down side. And if a woman is attracted to you the lack of experience isn't going to be a deal breaker. Especially if you have an agile tongue, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 12:42 AM
15

Dogs are the best. They are usually tough the first 3-6 months while you're training them and they're figuring out their role in your life but they are very affectionate and will be loyal to you for their entire life.
/r/MGTOW219/01/21 12:36 AM
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hate my job so much that next year I am going to quit my job and walk 2200 miles on the appalachian trail and re-examine my life. (Let’s see if I have the balls to follow through). I have a similar dream to go on a bicycle tour for a year after retirement. It's frustrating because when I hit my 40's my career finally took off. Im only halfway to my savings goal. If I retire now it may not be with dignity when Im older. Ive been frugal my whole life I don't want to be during the second half. My r…
/r/MGTOW218/01/21 05:28 PM
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I've never watched him but I'll check him out and let you know what I think. Marriage is a personal decision. I can't comment on what's best for you. It doesnt really jive with MGTOW, but I think you probably already knew that. Watch The Red Pill by Cassie Jaye. That really shows the Men's Rights Activists (MRA) movement and reveals a lot of the anti-male laws and sentiment in society these days.
/r/MGTOW217/01/21 10:41 PM
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Lol like om gonna get action Negative thinking is like an anchor around your neck. Be positive and open and you'll have a much more enjoyable, successful life. You may not get action tomorrow, but life is long. You can get good at anything over the course of years. But getting action isn't everything. Put yourself first. Never assume anything, good or bad about a woman. Look for signs about her character. People reveal who they are if you're patient and you ask direct questions (women hate direc…
/r/MGTOW217/01/21 05:20 PM
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I agree even reddit can be a waste of time. But it's kept my mind active during the lockdowns by keeping me interacting socially and engaging in some in depth discussions, and without the jealousy of what the Joneses have.
/r/MGTOW217/01/21 04:06 PM
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That's true. I think it's the protector (alpha, strong, charismatic, fearless, popular, etc.) vs provider (rich, stable, dependable, hard working, caring, etc.) thing. Women unconsciously seek both, and need both for the well-being of their offspring, but if one is lacking they may run to the opposite to their own peril. And they decide whether there's a lack by comparing you to the other guys around her.
/r/MGTOW214/01/21 07:50 PM
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Despite the warnings of risks I love the idea. I've always thought that dating sites should have the same thing: peer reviews from "users" (romantic partners) the same way Amazon has for their products. People would be a lot kinder and less deceitful. The only problem is getting women to use it. If they have a lot of reviews you know they're on the "carousel" so they'd probably just keep opening new accounts.
/r/MGTOW214/01/21 05:59 PM
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She's genetically programmed to monkey branch for the most resources for her children. Especially if she thought his branch was falling during COVID layoffs in the retail industry.
/r/MGTOW214/01/21 05:31 PM
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It's sad if you think about it. How many smart guys GTOW, that have genetics that won't be passed on that would've benefitted the world. That's why Idiocracy is one of the best movies of all time, lol.
/r/MGTOW214/01/21 05:29 PM
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That's a landslide of libel/slander suits waiting to happen. Many of which they'd win in gyno centric courts unless you've got a mountain of court worthy evidence to back it up. And either way you're out court fees. Free speech? Lol...
/r/MGTOW214/01/21 05:12 PM
0

What's NSA sex? Not suitable for alphas? Needs serious approval? Not saying always? Nasty sticky ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 02:32 AM
1

You might not get hornier, but the V is a powerful drug. The risk is you'll change your priorities to getting laid more and lose focus on your goals in life. Stay focused. Moderation in all things except pursuing your goals.
/r/MGTOW210/01/21 09:36 PM
1

I never said that. But those that are chased tend to be more attractive.
/r/MGTOW210/01/21 05:31 PM
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The French have an expression for orgasm that means little death. Because in the moment of release you completely lose yourself. One hell of a drug indeed.
/r/MGTOW210/01/21 07:31 AM
2

Incredibly thoughtful suggestions!
/r/MGTOW210/01/21 07:28 AM
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I'd recommend only dating women that approach you, because if she's not showing you interest, she has none. This is generally a bad idea. A woman who approaches usually comes with her own set of baggage and trouble.
/r/MGTOW210/01/21 07:17 AM
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Sometimes it's just a line and not actually true. Either to get you to try harder or if you can't, then to go away. She isn't impressed by you. PUA's call it a shit test.
/r/MGTOW210/01/21 07:10 AM
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Talk to a lawyer bro. Family law is applied differently state to state and even county to county, and frankly, judge to judge (personal bias). The lawyer will give you the lay of the land.
/r/MGTOW208/01/21 03:39 PM
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That's you projecting your values on others. Having kids is not everyone's path.
/r/MGTOW208/01/21 03:32 PM
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Troll alert.
/r/MGTOW208/01/21 03:26 PM
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This guy is taking the cheap thing a little far. I'm all for living minimalist lifestyle, but I like my soft bed and security and warmth of four walls. I like my nutritious food and private bathroom and TV and a yard to grow whatever I want. To build/buy a tiny home, or a camper, or split rent with other dudes in a small place, and actually eat food from the grocery store and garden doesn't cost all that much compared to the long term benefits.
/r/MGTOW207/01/21 08:53 PM
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What is an average salary at 34? In the U.S. that would be $47,000-$60,000 U.S.D. Do you have more than enough for a deposit on a small flat? How long would it take you to save enough to buy a flat or house instead of just renting or being saddled with a home loan? is your family dysfunctional? Would it be worth getting away from them for that reason? If you do move out have you considered relocating to a city with higher paying jobs and/or lower cost of living (better lifestyle for someone of y…
/r/MGTOW206/01/21 10:25 PM
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Are you planning on being honest with your partner that you intend to do that, so she's not surprised? If so, I don't see anything wrong with using the legal system to your advantage.
/r/MGTOW206/01/21 08:02 PM
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You're the one without any source at all. "Prob just a female" is not an argument, nor do you have a source for that either, lol. You can't just will a statistic into existence. Just admit YOU need to do your research. Saying 90% first marriages fail because it's, like common knowledge bro, is also not an argument. Who's bein the bitch here using feelings instead of facts?
/r/MGTOW205/01/21 07:05 PM
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I don't know how relying on sources is an "M.O." and I can't find your stat anywhere despite my research. You don't need to convince me but if there's no legitimate study that you can cite you shouldn't be making the unsupported statement misleading others.
/r/MGTOW205/01/21 05:27 PM
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Sadly too many women are conditioned by society to believe they're always right even when their opinions are based on nothing but feelings. It's the ultimate shit test. Agree with them and you fail. You don't want to be with a someone who can't handle dissenting opinions or facts. That's a shark on the other side of that glory hole. Keep your peepee away.
/r/MGTOW205/01/21 05:18 PM
1

Well done!! You're gonna win at life.
/r/MGTOW205/01/21 04:59 PM
1

Do you have a high paying job as a result of all that education?
/r/MGTOW205/01/21 04:38 PM
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I would add a caveat that there is real value in the lessons learned being on your own. I'm not saying this is you, you sound like you have your financial priorities right, but I've known a lot of guys that live with their parents through their 20's and 30's who aren't ready to pay cash for a house and be at or close to retirement by 40. Anything short of this is failure in my mind with the money they could have saved and invested. And what's worse, most of them don't even have enough for a down…
/r/MGTOW205/01/21 04:35 PM
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I legitimately never heard that stat, 10% of first marriages successful. I've heard the opposite, there's more success with first marriages, and less and less success with each additional marriage. Do you have a source? That's all the convincing I would need.
/r/MGTOW205/01/21 04:22 PM
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In that hypothetical case, your goals would be part of your BS story. Old timers keepin it real!
/r/MGTOW204/01/21 10:34 PM
1

Keep that chainsaw away from your balls!
/r/MGTOW204/01/21 06:53 AM
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The divorce rate in the U.S. is 39%, not 10%. Essentially there would be a 2/5 chance the parachute wouldn't open. With that statistic it's even more insane to jump out of the airplane. https://time.com/5434949/divorce-rate-children-marriage-benefits/
/r/MGTOW204/01/21 04:39 AM
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In regards to a civil partnership I have nothing to fear because no trouble came from splitting the fortune in half! It depends on the family laws of wherever you live, whether you cohabitate past a certain time period, whether you have kids with her, and what you mean by fortune. Laws vary wildly for each of these factors.
/r/MGTOW204/01/21 04:31 AM
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Or show the same respect to them that they show to you if they are not attracted to you: pretend like they are not even there asking you a question.
/r/MGTOW203/01/21 05:11 AM
1

He's dropping America money.
/r/MGTOW202/01/21 06:01 PM
1

Lol! This guy has standards.
/r/MGTOW202/01/21 06:00 PM
1

At least understanding the underlying reason for the feeling so it doesn't control you. I would not assume you can simply get rid of a feeling, even over time. We as humans ride our feelings like waves. If we try to control or ignore or stop them we drown, metaphorically. That could become misplaced rage, or depression or anxiety. Even physical ailments. It's much easier to surf your way out of negativity. Experience and accept, so you're clear headed and able bodied enough to make the best deci…
/r/MGTOW231/12/20 06:01 PM
3

"Show me a beautiful woman and I'll show you a man who's tired of f***ing her."
/r/MGTOW231/12/20 05:05 PM
1

It really depends on the income of each partner and their tax breaks as single. Also if you combine your income and that puts you in a higher tax bracket but are getting twice the tax breaks it kinda washes out. Taxes arent that simple. I would seek a tax professionals opinion on this rather than taking the advice above.
/r/MGTOW231/12/20 05:39 AM
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I never understood why in a divorce you lose half your retirement income simply because your wife stayed home. She doesn't even need to stay home if it's a community property state. In those states she'll get half your retirement income even if she worked.
/r/MGTOW231/12/20 05:34 AM
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Women file for divorce the majority of the time and are awarded custody the majority of the time. You've got it backwards. Children are TAKEN from them.
/r/MGTOW231/12/20 05:32 AM
1

My way of doing the stuff I don't want to do is to promise myself rewards. Whatever I do want to do, I accomplish something I don't want to do first, then reward myself with something I do want to do next. Half hour of studying, half hour of playing video games. Half hour of raking leaves, eat a piece of chocolate. It works well, and at the end of the day I feel like I accomplished a lot AND had a good time and enjoyed myself. It sounds lame but really works for me.
/r/MGTOW230/12/20 01:39 AM
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Great idea. I'm too lazy to go outside or to my car so I designated one spot in my house, the "office" (a spare bedroom) where I get shit done.
/r/MGTOW230/12/20 01:31 AM
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The first few days will be. Take time to grieve. Let yourself off the hook for whatever. But after that start doing things for yourself. Take care of yourself. Even if it feels like you're going through the motions. It won't take you a few months, probably only a few weeks to "get back to you". Sure you'll have moments after that when you regret, long, anger, whatever. But it will fade over time. You'll get through it man. Find your strength. There's an infinitely deep well in you. This type of …
/r/MGTOW225/12/20 09:04 AM
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I like to think the third is that feeling I get when I know I'm on my own path, the one that's right for me. That I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be, doing what Im supposed to do. Some people call it happiness, contentment, centeredness, being whole, living in the moment, providence even. Whatever it is, I know when I have it. It's fleeting, but it's worth the efforts.
/r/MGTOW225/12/20 08:52 AM
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Women are the gatekeepers of family naturally. Men are either outsiders or permitted in. Women have a tremendously privileged position biologically. I felt that viscerally during my first breakup as a teenager. It's crazy to think how clearly I remember that a quarter century ago. That feeling of being rendered insignificant, orphaned, irrelevant. Over some train wreck of a high school tramp who broke up with me. A seriously low quality girl I later had to strongly encourage my friend to break u…
/r/MGTOW225/12/20 08:41 AM
1

There was some study that the meaner the servers are the more they get tipped. Something psychological about customers trying to please them. Sounds like it's working on you. I agree with the other commenters, tip small unless they're nice and attentive.
/r/MGTOW225/12/20 01:09 AM
3

Bike touring is the perfect blend of enjoyment, self improvement (physically) and adventure! It's been a few years since I've done any touring but I'd love to do this more. People don't realize you can go anywhere with just a bike, some supplies hung from a bike rack, and some time to spare. This last requirement is my shortfall. This would be my reason to retire early.
/r/MGTOW221/12/20 06:17 AM
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Home depot for home improvement. Online courses and books for intellectual improvement. The gym, the trail, food and supplements for physical improvement. Philosophical, psychological, and religious introspection for mental improvement.
/r/MGTOW221/12/20 06:06 AM
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(5.3.) I guess they don't care about male genital mutilation (circumcision). Wait a minute... (5.a.) aren't we supposed to own nothing and be happy? Or is that just men who will own nothing?
/r/MGTOW220/12/20 09:41 PM
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Government meddling in colleges is how the uni budget bloat occurred. B.S. executive positions created to gobble up money for made up agendas like Diversity etc.
/r/MGTOW220/12/20 07:46 PM
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Thanks! Sounds like you've been through the wringer. From experience it suuuuucks breaking it off with someone if you've bonded with their kid. But it's not your problem anymore. Time for you to take care of yourself only for a while and heal. Good luck man, you're more aware now and being informed is walking the path with your eyes open.
/r/MGTOW220/12/20 07:43 PM
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But All women do cheat Not true. A high percentage of both men and women cheat because a high percentage of men and women are amoral/immoral. check your fucking white knight bullshit. This is good advice and a good lesson. You can't save what's already lost.
/r/MGTOW220/12/20 07:38 PM
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Although I do feel that if your not working toward bringing up the next generation to value diversity and inclusion. Then your just renting space and ultimately your life will have had very little positive impact to society as a whole Diversity and inclusion may align with your values but not necessarily others on this sub. Others may value other causes higher and work toward those instead. We choose our own meaning when we choose our own way. And the term diversity and inclusion has be co-opted…
/r/MGTOW220/12/20 04:59 PM
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I'm sorry to say but the name of the game is to get to a ripe ol age and see your daughter/son making the world a better place. Otherwise your life is a waste to humanity. Why can't someone just cut out the middle man and make the world a better place themselves? Not everyone is destined to procreate and child rear. Maybe this is your goal in life but you're in a MGTOW channel. Everyone's goals in life are different around here.
/r/MGTOW220/12/20 08:27 AM
1

Wow! A few days is still fresh. What happened?
/r/MGTOW220/12/20 08:17 AM
1

And that lead me to the conclusion that I myself was never enough. I hope your journey has taught you that you are enough. Realizing you are whole and don't "need" an "other" despite the natural urge to mate is one key to discovering your worth.
/r/MGTOW220/12/20 08:16 AM
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Been red pilled since around age 6 thanks to a shitty abusive older sister and a mom who blamed me for my own abuse to justify her not having to be inconvenienced by intervening.
/r/MGTOW220/12/20 08:08 AM
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That's a good point. Plus colleges would just keep raising tuition to exceed the grant amount because, well, they can. And they always have. The more people can spend (in federal grants and federal loans) the more they'll charge. It's how government spending works. Hand out money and more will be demanded. Like any addiction, it'll never be enough.
/r/MGTOW220/12/20 06:41 AM
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It depends on what your definition of anti-feminist is, which depends on what your definition of feminism is. Being anti-feminism does NOT mean anti-women. There are four waves, apparently: woman's suffrage (voting rights, good), equal opportunity (merit based hiring and expansion of equality under the law, good), evil patriarchy narrative and anti-traditional gender roles (this is where it loses me, because people have taken it too far), and finally intersectionality (total B.S. reverse racism …
/r/MGTOW219/12/20 02:55 AM
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This all the way!
/r/MGTOW218/12/20 08:54 PM
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I guess what I'm saying is this is what women, especially young or attractive women commonly use men for in the role the poster above says he's entered (orbiter, friend zone, emotional tampon). He admitted he was attracted to her but was rejected. So enter this relationship dynamic with women using extreme caution. Don't pretend you're in power with the relationship if she's the one that rejects you and you stick around to fulfill her other needs. And DEEFINITELY don't make the assumption that s…
/r/MGTOW218/12/20 08:10 PM
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You could probably pay for legitimate in home care services for a week that would do more for you. But the having money saved comment is still on point!
/r/MGTOW218/12/20 05:53 PM
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Does this strike anyone as backward? Isn't the ideal for most young guys the opposite? Where u don't have to talk to her a lot but she'll jump into bed with you? Don't women want what you're doing? Boyfriend benefits without having to sleep with you? Basically a phone only version of a beta male orbiter. It seems like you're in a position to be her emotional tampon. She can complain to you about the guys that are laying pipe in her and not calling her back and you get to what? Listen? I could be…
/r/MGTOW218/12/20 05:49 PM
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Lockdown makes making social connections hard on everybody. From my experience the best way to make friends is doing what you love to do. That joy you get from it is contagious. I made one of my best friends in a social sports league, and another in a computer programming class. Religious folks sometimes find like minded guy friends at men's groups of larger churches. Some who are non religious like the Mankind Project meetings (with the caveat that I've heard VERY mixed reviews of the weekend g…
/r/MGTOW218/12/20 05:25 PM
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I disagree. Women generally look to men to pursue. They'll give signals but some guys don't know how to read them or don't know how to pursue or build on that initial kernel of attraction. You may have nothing wrong with you except you've got no game and haven't learned how to read body language.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 08:06 PM
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Good for you!!! Well done and congrats on your successful purchase of a house!
/r/MGTOW217/12/20 05:25 AM
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There are apps to find her on dating apps, so you can screenshot and prove her ongoing infidelity and any statements on her profile that casts her character in a negative light. Could help your case.
/r/MGTOW217/12/20 05:23 AM
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Hoping for the best for you man. Manage your expectations. Anything short of evidence of abuse on your child's body from her and she might still get 50% custody. If she makes less than you or you have assets or a retirement she may get alimony or a payout settlement from you in the divorce. If she's on public assistance you may be expected to pay it back.
/r/MGTOW217/12/20 05:17 AM
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Tragedy is child will be psychologically harmed by a mom like that.
/r/MGTOW217/12/20 05:15 AM
2

I guess that's a matter of perspective, and what engages you. What I love about programming is it uses both sides of your brain, both the language and logic side. It's the perfect synthesis between creativity and logic in a problem solving environment. It taught me I could both create things and solve my own problems. I could create tools that were practical, time saving, and useful. Once I get into a project that is really challenging and have a breakthrough and get it to run, it's a big boost.…
/r/MGTOW217/12/20 01:59 AM
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. A husband however as we all know, is only "loved" for the comfort he can provide his wife making a living and provoding for her kids, never for who they are; And it's even worse than that. In addition to only being loved for what you can do for her, you're also only loved for "what" you are (strong, handsome, rich). You don't even get a shot at dating them let alone marrying them unless you are Chad/Tyrone or they're desperate (Chad/Tyrone won't date them anymore because of their kids or weigh…
/r/MGTOW215/12/20 05:31 PM
2

Those nurses should go to prison for elder abuse. There are specific laws for punishing people who steal from the elderly. It's a damn shame.
/r/MGTOW215/12/20 05:23 PM
1

Biking gets easier and you can go farther the more you do it. If you have higher pressure touring type tires put on any kind of bike you can ride it as far as you want. I used to do 30-50 miles in a day. I'd bike out to the country, have a general route, stop along the way if something interested me-- pie at a diner, snack at a gas station, wine sampler at a winery, even a meal at a roadside barbecue pit. I would go at a nice pace, check out nature along the way, think about everything, take pho…
/r/MGTOW215/12/20 04:26 AM
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You could be right, but that's not my hunch. One of my degrees is in literature and creative writing. I've had to read a LOT of creative writing from both sexes. Which is what this actually is. They took more time to make it flowery than a dude who actually wanted to end his life. No man wrote this way from my experience when the creative button was activated.
/r/MGTOW214/12/20 04:14 PM
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Plus "he" writes like a woman if you noticed. Victim mentality, no accountability for his.... err her own actions, using weakness as a strength (to garner sympathy and become a beacon to simps), no boundaries (can't say no to anyone in her life, so she's stuck doing their bidding and taking care of everyone)...
/r/MGTOW214/12/20 04:04 PM
1

Brilliant plan. When they say female they mean socialism. If the future is socialism then looking broke on paper is the path of least resistance!
/r/MGTOW214/12/20 04:25 AM
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I get it. The bad news is it's not like businesses will be better once you graduate. This stuff is baked into all the big corporations. They're training you to be an obedient little worker. Do yourself a favor and start a business of your own as FAST as possible so you never have a boss again. You will be on the losing end of legal discrimination. They're openly telling you that.
/r/MGTOW214/12/20 03:06 AM
1

One more thing, these guys are thought police. They are trying to say because of something you can't control (race, sex) you have evil inside you. Read the dystopian novel 1984. It's not enough you do what they want. You have to think and say what they want. My thoughts are mine. More so, my thoughts are me. They're my soul. Thoughts are not crimes. No one is allowed access but me.
/r/MGTOW214/12/20 02:47 AM
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If they said I had to go to it I'd file a lawsuit that it was against my religion. It's idolatry. They are idolizing agenda over truth, Government over God. That government is the only one who can say who comes before whom. Who is the Government to say who is above or beneath someone else? When God says we are all created in His image. That makes us all equal in my religion. And Government is just people. And if I ask them if we are all equal, and the answer is anything but yes, then I'd sue the…
/r/MGTOW214/12/20 02:38 AM
1

Could you be specific about how it'll be worse?
/r/MGTOW212/12/20 10:56 PM
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You need to set clear boundaries with your family. You do not need to do anything you don't want to do. If you telling them no "causes them stress" they have convinced you of a lie. They are responsible for their own stress because they have failed to manage their own expectations. You have then caused your own stress because you fail to see the boundary between their feelings and yours. Learn and understand that boundary. A therapist will be able to assist you with that if you are having troubl…
/r/MGTOW212/12/20 12:35 AM
1

Guess it depends on department, and whether you're talking federal state or local. Those stats include the military and are fed only.
/r/MGTOW211/12/20 09:08 PM
1

OP I disagree with your last point: I believe the majority of people do NOT work hard. Or they are wasting their energies on unproductive things. The Pareto principle indicates in any organization the square root of its workers are providing the majority of the organization's value. So in a 100 employee organization that's only 10 percent. In a 10,000 employee organization that's only 1 percent. You get the idea.
/r/MGTOW211/12/20 07:17 PM
2

How will a cashless society affect an out of control government?
/r/MGTOW211/12/20 07:11 PM
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It's mostly women, minority women, and middle aged people who "retire into" government jobs to get the health benefits and pensions their old careers didn't provide.
/r/MGTOW211/12/20 07:10 PM
2

if you can't even trust your female relatives, imagine how little of that you should extend to the rest of their kind... Boy this resonated with me. I've understood this MGTOW core concept since I was a child. My big sister would bully and abuse me and when I'd complain to my mom and show her the bruises and scratches she would blame me, the smaller one, for "antagonizing" my larger stronger sister. I didn't even know what the word meant. Never married, dated a lot though, saw through any B.S. p…
/r/MGTOW211/12/20 08:03 AM
2

As Dave Ramsey would say, you could always go and take out more debt later if you decided you like being in debt. I actually sold non retirement investments to pay off the mortgage. With the economy shaky I sleep soundly knowing if things got really bad I'd be ok. I don't lose any sleep worrying about some asset appreciation I'm missing out on. I have more free income for emergencies and saving for retirement now. Stable guaranteed future vs risky return, I choose the former.
/r/MGTOW211/12/20 07:43 AM
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Nailed it! (So to speak). I have to imagine when they spread their legs they could easily falsely attribute all the positive feedback they get to their performance. Meanwhile back at man-land we are busy choreographing a Broadway fuck play.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 03:57 AM
5

At least with a warm toilet seat you can clorox wipe it and feel like you're not taking a risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 03:50 AM
3

You think low of men, especially those trying to improve themselves either to attract a woman (PUA, misguided, but one of the strongest biological drives), or for themselves (MGTOW, those who don't view the juice to be worth the squeeze). I don't see anything wrong with men doing things for their own good in response to the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 03:44 AM
4

Lol. Their masturbation towel.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 03:40 AM
3

Usually when there's this many inaccuracies and generalizations in a post it stems from rage, resentment, or simple misunderstanding. Which is it for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 03:38 AM
1

She looks like she won't keep the weight off. 4....3...2...1
/r/MGTOW211/12/20 02:33 AM
2

Chapelle knows: https://youtu.be/q7upGsFhoHY
/r/MGTOW210/12/20 05:15 AM
6

Well that definitely goes against all my experiences. Cheers for him! He broke the Matrix! If there was a Neo award I would give it!
/r/MGTOW209/12/20 10:17 PM
3

There you go. He has higher *status (probably on the looks and personality department) and locked in a sugar mama. Sometimes it doesn't fit this mold. Sometimes the women have really low self esteem and seek out a project guy, especially if he knows how to sex her. Some drama is a plus, gotta keep her on her toes. He probably fucks around on her and she probably doesn't want to know about it. Ahhh domestic bliss.
/r/MGTOW209/12/20 09:46 PM
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Hope he doesn't try to convince you that's a "traditional" or "old fashioned" relationship, because it's not even that. In traditional relationships partners pool their resources, and the money goes to providing a safe stable environment for children. Not to her shoe and purse collection.
/r/MGTOW209/12/20 09:41 PM
6

I find listening to his podcast whenever I stop budgeting and start overspending again (slipping back to the old ways) is a great "punishment" (reminder) to stay on track. It doesn't take long. An episode or two for a few days and I remember the discipline!
/r/MGTOW209/12/20 03:37 PM
2

That's a great point.
/r/MGTOW208/12/20 06:32 PM
6

This is a good point. It seems like it's driven more by fear-- a scarcity mindset: "I can't do any better... I don't want to be alone... I can't live without her... etc." They let their brains be hijacked by instinct and open themselves to the societal pressure to commit to a contract with severe consequences.
/r/MGTOW208/12/20 05:23 PM
1

I can keep myself busy with projects and enjoyable activities all day whether I'm earning or not. Granted much of it is still work, but it's exactly what I want to do (renovation project, web design, creative writing, etc.).
/r/MGTOW208/12/20 05:18 PM
2

Same here. It's not a hate for women (far from) but a choice about signing a contract that is directly against my interest.
/r/MGTOW208/12/20 03:32 PM
2

That's great!! 57 is young to be able to retire, especially these days. Congrats on your success and overcoming the financial hit of divorce.
/r/MGTOW208/12/20 03:28 PM
45

Good for them. Anyone can and should GTOW if that's what they want to do. If that's what improves their life.
/r/MGTOW208/12/20 08:42 AM
1

I’d say most guys here are pretty normal everyday guys and would guess that most wouldn’t even consider this as an option. I agree. Men playing with dolls seems... off. But whatever if that's what you're into. GYOW dude. My opinion is it's a fleshlight with some extravagant attachments. The tech is in its infancy in my opinion. It's like overpaying for a computer that takes a whole room and only does one thing. VR tech should simplify things when haptic (touch) sense is added. Why spend thousand…
/r/MGTOW208/12/20 08:28 AM
2

She sounds horrible. Glad you're rid of her. May she hit the wall early and become invisible.
/r/MGTOW205/12/20 09:34 PM
1

It doesn't bother me. She showed her true colors early on. So she can be avoided. Bye Felicia.
/r/MGTOW205/12/20 09:33 PM
5

Or celebrates and subsidizes it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 10:30 PM
5

This is why I love this sub. Demystifying illogical behaviour, or at least shining a light on it to shatter our false assumptions. In this example, to realize that attractive women have just as many animal (biologically driven) traits and behaviors as men do. It makes sense that they would practice rejecting men in attempt to build themselves back up. I don't know who said it, but whereas men's weakness is status, women's weakness is vanity. Strange that both have direct correlation to reproduct…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 10:04 PM
8

Attractive men who are monogamous get the top pick of the most youthful, attractive, well adjusted low N-count women (the "marriageable" types), since attractive men get the top pick of all women. There's nothing to complain about, since they only have to marry one, their favorite. Conversely unattractive (bottom 80 percent) monogamous men get the leftovers. The post-wall, the chubs, the high-N-count girlfriend gamers, the gold diggers, the straight crazies whose boyfriends and husbands habitual…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:54 PM
4

I've always said never trust anyone if you don't have to. Slightly different. Life can be improved and made easier if you judiciously trust some people some time. Otherwise NO contracts or friendships or good will can ever be established. No man is an island.
/r/MGTOW201/12/20 03:11 PM
0

Well, if you're good looking you can find other perfect girls. There can be a whole parade of them in your future. Every size shape and flavor. If you're below average looks, and you want to have a wife and kids to fit in with your Christian friends (trust me you will seem weirder and less worthy of their time once they settle and marry-- it's just how it works, couples hang out with couples, single guys are considered a threat to wives of your friends), you'll probably regret breaking up over a…
/r/MGTOW230/11/20 05:27 AM
2

Says the guy promoting the gay dating site.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 01:50 AM
3

So basically if you're a below average looking dude who has income just go ahead and pay for sex. Your time is worth more than what you'll get using OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 01:43 AM
3

Why was she disappointed about who you game with and what you watch? That doesn't sound like the behavior of a unicorn. That sounds like someone who was jealous or controlling.
/r/MGTOW230/11/20 12:54 AM
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Worse. They treat them like broken girls. The American Psychological Association now says masculinity is toxic. https://www.apa.org/monitor/2019/01/ce-corner This is why a matriarchy is toxic to men.
/r/MGTOW226/11/20 06:12 PM
8

The craving for unconditional love is borne out of our childhood experience (or lack thereof) with our parents. It's an attempt to recreate that parent-child relationship with someone else as an adult. It rarely works for men, because it's the women who are looking for strength and protection. You can't be that to her and expect she will be willing to be that for you as well.
/r/MGTOW226/11/20 06:08 PM
8

Amen brother!
/r/MGTOW226/11/20 06:03 PM
3

I disagree, having always been a shy introverted guy with not a lot of physical awareness, I listened to content and put it into practice and saw it work. I improved my look/style, practiced how to get and keep women's attention, how to "hone" my storytelling, teasing, and joking to hold frame and demonstrate my status as perceived by women, how to minimize or laugh off rejection, how to generate jealousy or desire, how to "date" in a way that led to the bedroom rather than a handshake or pat on…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 05:01 PM
2

Exactly! The PUA community was created for this exactly. Teaching beta guys how to be attractive... Err at least more attractive, and incrementally increasing their success with women. Money or no money (beyond what's necessary to buy nice clothes, food, and a place of your own) mattered little for hookup and casual dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:37 AM
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https://youtu.be/gnGpa0IH3hQ
/r/MGTOW226/11/20 06:59 AM
2

Friend, it's never too late to seek out male influences. Life is an experiment. The opportunities don't end until you do. I grew up around VERY strong women who had a primary influence on me early. It wasn't until adulthood that I worked out my own strategy: Think about what I want out of life or any aspect of my life Don't underestimate what I'm capable of Look for people who I admire, or envy, or have something I want, or live the way I think I might want to live Talk to them, ask for advice, …
/r/MGTOW226/11/20 12:28 AM
2

Good point. Seems like discrimination the MRA's should be working against.
/r/MGTOW224/11/20 07:39 PM
0

"MGTOW is a RATIONAL choice, not a dogmatic one." I like this!
/r/MGTOW224/11/20 04:33 AM
1

I could live with that. However without a unifying cause, we can't define ourselves, which leaves a vacuum in which anyone, including enemies of MGTOW, will define us on our behalf to further their cause and it won't be flattering, which will lead to us being targeted out of hate. Trade offs to everything I guess, right? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way Not correct or flattering.
/r/MGTOW224/11/20 04:28 AM
14

Sure just tell the adoption agency you're MGTOW, that'll work, lol
/r/MGTOW224/11/20 04:22 AM
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Treat them equally will get you a misogyny accusation because society teaches them they come first. Treat them equally will get you a harassment accusation because the legal bar for harassment in the workplace is set so low it includes "makes her feel uncomfortable". Women aren't great, they're just people. We pedestalize them. MGTOW in addition to being about no marriage, no cohabitation (in some jurisdictions) is also about putting yourself first and doing what's best for you, which includes p…
/r/MGTOW224/11/20 04:18 AM
1

Good point. Poor word choice on my part. Correction: peak sex drive. Sex drive in men's teens and 20's. It just isn't the same by the time you hit your 30's and 40's. You still want it, it's just no longer all consuming.
/r/MGTOW224/11/20 02:19 AM
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She lies. She will keep the money and the courts have a high statistical likelihood of awarding the mother full custody if the father doesnt fight. Fight for your children.
/r/MGTOW223/11/20 07:16 PM
1

Then at least pay for an initial consultation and get as much info from the lawyer as you can, buy books and start learning how to navigate filing court documents and court hearings effectively, research/apply for any legal assistance available, start a GoFundMe among your friends and anyone who hates your wife (I'm sure there are many), get three jobs, drive Uber/Lyft and meal deliveries until your car falls apart, do what EVER YOU HAVE TO. You are about to become an even bigger victim than you…
/r/MGTOW223/11/20 07:11 PM
2

Shoot for full custody. Ask/demand for the moon. Come out strong or you may not even end up with half custody.
/r/MGTOW223/11/20 07:05 PM
4

"...pay a whole lot more money later." Not just financially, your kids safety and well being are at stake unless you get them away from a convict who may abuse them and a mother who will poison their minds against you. Lawyers will do the dirty work for you whereas you have the habit of giving bad people the benefit of the doubt. Your children will suffer either way, but the long term damage will be less if you fight for them.
/r/MGTOW223/11/20 07:02 PM
1

Ummm those are the ripe ones. Bad analogy. Maybe yellow vs brown bananas?
/r/MGTOW223/11/20 05:13 PM
1

Well "they all are the same", so, is there a difference?
/r/MGTOW223/11/20 05:08 PM
2

And empowered and independent and successful.
/r/MGTOW223/11/20 05:07 PM
1

There's a reason why your peak fertility years are when you're young and dumb.
/r/MGTOW223/11/20 05:05 PM
7

"operates under the guise of concern" You touched on something even bigger. This is how anybody and any organization with the goal of taking your power operates. Turn on the news. Listen to a politician. It's always the same.
/r/MGTOW220/11/20 04:16 PM
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I agree with the sentiment, that men can be victims and deserve sympathy just as women do. But I define things a little differently. Depression is a diagnosed condition and is rarely caused by a single event. That coming out of rejection: No one can hurt you emotionally unless you let them. There's tremendous power in realizing you're in control of your own mental state, and that giving others power over your emotional state is your choice.
/r/MGTOW219/11/20 03:53 PM
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Third Wave feminism is a scourge. From their own mouths they compare themselves to the disabled. So they can get preferential treatment. They don't even pretend to be equal anymore because they just want the benefit without the responsibility.
/r/MGTOW217/11/20 04:09 PM
7

You monster! Lol
/r/MGTOW217/11/20 04:05 PM
2

Cheating and lots of partners means you don't want her to sink her emotional hooks into you. That would be a guaranteed suffer fest. You were honest and that is a virtue. Cheating is not a virtue. You held a mirror up to her and it made her angry. Who knows, maybe she will reform her ways (probably not. She will more likely just start lying to future potential victims... "I've only had two partners..."). Women with the habit of jumping into bed with guys on the first date are lost causes.
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 05:16 PM
1

The future is a basic prototype silicone woman of your preferred body type, and a VR headset that projects whatever look or features onto her contours that you're feeling that night. I'm blown away no one's ever talked about doing it this way... Hint hint all you Computer programmer/video game designer guys out there. It could be mainstreamed too because simps could use it while with their ugly girlfriends, and vice versa.
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 02:30 AM
2

Now you're starting to understand women
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 02:23 AM
2

Never waste an opportunity to sue. Only then they'll wise up and make it harder to sue, if a man is systemically benefitting. Because patriarchy is bad.
/r/MGTOW213/11/20 03:15 AM
2

Yep it just means a woman felt uncomfortable. Unfortunately in the U.S. that's all it takes to get you investigated and possibly fired and sued for sexual harassment. You're the victim, and she either gets a large settlement or has one less man to compete with for that promotion. Words have power.
/r/MGTOW213/11/20 03:09 AM
1

Jesus and the 12 disciples definitely did not bring wives on the road with them. I believe they were more fully able to commit to their faith, instead of spending most of their time earning for and paying attention to wives and children. If I remember correctly the Bible even says Jesus was the Bridegroom of the Church (married to). It's clear he was caring for his followers the same way a husband would his wife and children.
/r/MGTOW212/11/20 06:02 PM
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Yup, it's tribalism. Saves the masses from having to think. They view threats to their beliefs as threats to their bodies. They're not dumb, which would be easier to accept. Intelligent people fall into this pattern. They just haven't had their beliefs questioned enough, or had enough negative feedback caused by their beliefs. Men are more likely to have been questioned and scrutinized way more, as we start life with no status, whereas women start with absolute status, because society strokes th…
/r/MGTOW212/11/20 03:36 PM
3

Don't mean to sound sleazy but tease me, I don't want it if it's that easy...
/r/MGTOW212/11/20 07:19 AM
2

Same here. Held many views of the dangers surrounding legal commitment for 20 years, yet spent most of that time dating in hopes of finding the "one" "perfect partner". Turns out those words are just concepts from a cultural dogma that serves the marriage and divorce industry's bottom lines. Stumbling on MGTOW content has started the process of slowly reversing my cognitive dissonance.
/r/MGTOW212/11/20 07:12 AM
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They're brainwashed by culture, media, and movies that convince them they are the smart capable ones and men are hapless idiots in superior positions who exploit the productivity of their brilliant hard working female subjects. You'd be surprised how potent the intoxicant of self delusion is, especially when it leverages their greatest weakness: vanity. As JP says, ideology possesses people, not the other way around.
/r/MGTOW212/11/20 06:44 AM
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Yup! If you talk MGTOW he will tell fiance and fiance will become your enemy to be removed from his life as a bad influence. Anything he does that is wrong she will blame on you until he finally let's you go to make the grief stop. You may get to enjoy your visits to the plantation for a while longer if you keep MGTOW to yourself.
/r/MGTOW211/11/20 01:01 AM
1

Number 1 rule of kicking a sweets addiction: never, EVER keep sweets in your home. If you want an occasional treat (once every week or 2) having to go out and get it may be just enough inconvenience to just settle for a healthier option in house. Most people eat junk when they're bored, or turn to it when they're lazy.
/r/MGTOW208/11/20 04:07 PM
3

"Stupid to do something if someone else will do it for a reasonable amount" I agree to the extent that your time may be better spent doing other things if they are more rewarding financially or enjoyment wise. But I enjoy fixing things, the process of learning how, and the pride I take when I can do it myself. I also agree that it's better to keep most people out of your home because they don't have your best interest as their priority. But there are some people that make my life better and I li…
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 04:48 PM
1

Or whatever makes you happy. I prefer a reliable truck for project materials or an all wheel drive vehicle for ski trips. Nothing new of course.
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 05:41 AM
2

That's the thing. You just don't have to answer. I just laugh if it's suggested. Say something like "that'd be nice".
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 05:36 AM
3

I dress for my own benefit. I have a custom suit for job interviews but wear gym shorts and comfy T-shirts just about everywhere else.
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 05:34 AM
3

Like Grey Man look neither rich nor poor. But most importantly be smarter than whoever tries to con you. The most powerful word in the English language is "no".
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 05:29 AM
11

"I didn't pay my mortgage off by buying food for random women off the internet" I nominate this as the new best MGTOW expression ever.
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 05:25 AM
2

You da man....do
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 05:21 AM
1

You don't even let trusted friends or select family members come over? And you don't spray your own bugs and repair your own dishwasher? You have much to learn young padowan.
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 05:20 AM
2

This is 100 percent true. My buddy's brother got cockolded the exact same way in the U S. and it was only because SHE told him their second child wasn't his at around age 5 that he found out. Because SHE wanted to "start a new life" with the other guy (get alimony and child support from buddy's brother, move in with the other guy, claim abuse, get alimony and child support from both). Then she had a kid with a third dude who was never involved, got some compensation from someone for it (probably…
/r/MGTOW201/11/20 05:17 PM
6

That's the next tech billionaire. He won't have the money to fan himself with until after he drops out of college and goes public.
/r/MGTOW231/10/20 04:59 AM
7

Marriage as an institution without this strict religious/cultural foundation is a dying one anyway. At least they get women in their early twenties who are attempting loyalty because of that social pressure. Guys outside this get post-wall women who are "finally ready to settle down" after their eggs are starting to dry up or they're single moms. Trust me the religion thing as culture makes more sense when youre older and you look around and say, ohhhh, that was the practical reason for it. It's…
/r/MGTOW230/10/20 06:40 AM
3

Well thought out. I can tell this is wisdom earned from experience by the passion behind it. I learned this lesson the hard way after suffering from bouts of anxiety. My state of mind, outlook on my circumstances, and progress toward success completely changed for the positive after addressing the negative, cruel self talk. Everybody in MGTOW should take your words to heart!
/r/MGTOW228/10/20 05:09 AM
3

Yes! And when they tell you that you have "privilege" because you're a man you tell them yes, and that you earned it. Then you can list those 13 items. It's usually the entitled who use that word. Their sense of entitlement, however, they did not earn.
/r/MGTOW228/10/20 03:48 AM
3

And the kids they stick you with aren't gonna be the babies or toddlers you can help develop into productive members of society with good character, they'll be the teens who have really been messed up by the foster care system, statistically abused abusers who will probably burn your house down or get you arrested for truancy (true story, in U.S. if kids miss school parents are liable criminally). Nah, you're still working for some woman when you take on the responsibility of their kids after th…
/r/MGTOW227/10/20 08:10 PM
4

Proof right here it's not worth putting all your eggs in one lady basket, especially if you got a lot of eggs. Imagine if she dropped you after you got married and then took your house, half your business, etc.
/r/MGTOW227/10/20 08:04 PM
2

Kramer had some nuggets of wisdom!
/r/MGTOW227/10/20 02:04 PM
3

Nope they would force them into work camps my friend. If not physical ones, then virtual ones. It is pretty well known politicians vilify whoever they want to raise taxes on (listen to Dems prattle about "The Rich, the one percent, the Billionaires, greedy business owners, white/male privilege...". It's a shake down. They are training the population to approve punitive tax hikes they propose on these groups). They need tax slaves to feed The Beast. Federal debt: $30 trillion and growing. MGTOW a…
/r/MGTOW227/10/20 02:01 AM
3

I've had such similar experiences it's like I'm reading my own words. Thanks for the insights! "The Southern Poverty Law Center and Democrats have labeled MGTOW a white supremacist hate group" Would you expect anything less from the party that loved slavery? Anyone who stands against this new form of slavery (alimony, child support, court fees, all enforced by the power of the state) will be outlawed by them even if they trammel our Constitutional right to free speech and due process.
/r/MGTOW227/10/20 01:55 AM
3

I assumed so because she said she would lose in court (probably not under the administrative law of a western country, definitely not U.S. or Canada where she would likely win because she is not the breadwinner), and both families were caste obsessed (something Indian families don't loosen up about until they immigrate to a western country and realize they no longer have control over their kids).
/r/MGTOW226/10/20 03:38 AM
2

If a man has something you want, and he's not a blue pill who will just give it to you, you copy it for attention. In tech for example, many emulate successful developers, get hiring preference, then complain about impostor syndrome until they're promoted, once again with hiring preference assist. Why would WGTOW be any different? They will emulate successful MGTOWs, get youtube preference & drown out MGTOW voices with their complaints. "It's a woman's world" means there are "safe spaces"... Unl…
/r/MGTOW225/10/20 07:00 PM
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"legally he will win in any case that comes up" I am so jealous of India family court law. In the West she could do this and he would be paying alimony, PLUS child support if the judge couldn't track down the father and ruled him the easiest victim to enslave.
/r/MGTOW225/10/20 04:19 PM
2

Exactly... I think readers missed my sarcasm
/r/MGTOW222/10/20 06:54 PM
0

"Yes, addiction is a disability. We need to get her the help she needs and pay for it all until she gets back on her feet. The important thing is we get her child back home with her as fast as possible where he is loved and cared for!!!"
/r/MGTOW222/10/20 06:52 AM
2

Earning money by complaining? Sounds like a woman's dream job. She knows exactly what she's doing.
/r/MGTOW222/10/20 06:46 AM
1

"Idk where he indicates that he messed up" It's in the r/TIFU sub, which stands for "Think I Effed Up". Doesn't mean he did, just that he thought he did. Note she's the one that left him after revealing her slutty past. She did a number on him. "be aware of what it is ab you that keeps her with you" I agree, but that'd be too stressful a way for me to live long term. That means if I ever lost that thing, even if the losing it was outside my control (lose livelihood, become disabled, etc.) she wo…
/r/MGTOW218/10/20 05:38 PM
2

Edit: clearly this guy only had the mini snausages rather than the big juicy beef links...
/r/MGTOW218/10/20 05:08 PM
2

The best thing I did for my sex life (as a younger man) was take a dog handling/training class at the local animal rescue. Behavioral conditioning works whether canine or human. Punish/ignore bad behavior reward good, as long as you have something they want.
/r/MGTOW218/10/20 05:07 PM
3

You mean the former law where you could beat your wife with a stick as long as it's no thicker than your thumb? Or judge a man's penis size relative to the size of his thumb?
/r/MGTOW217/10/20 11:26 PM
1

Well that's one way to go!
/r/MGTOW217/10/20 09:46 PM
1

Do what was historically done before feminism, award children to the one with the resources. He could then find a new wife or family member or paid caretaker who would love and not abuse the children while he was at work. The ex got a healthy but not financially crippling payout to go away. Threat of losing children combined with religion to discourage women from seeking divorce in the first place. Then suddenly there's no need for welfare, except for widows and orphans (the only true victims in…
/r/MGTOW217/10/20 04:14 PM
1

What gender that guardian was would shine more light on things
/r/MGTOW217/10/20 04:08 PM
5

Doesn't help him now, but is funny.
/r/MGTOW217/10/20 04:07 PM
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Lol simpanzees
/r/MGTOW217/10/20 03:59 PM
2

Sure it is. It's just the solutions are even more undesirable. They could ban alcohol at college. Or mandate chaperones for all women. Or better yet, ban coed universities. But don't stop there, they could ban coed workplaces... and mandate you can't even see any part of a woman's body until you're married to her. Hmmm wait a minute... don't they already do this some place or culture? We could just offer free one way airline tickets there to whomever believes there's a rape culture. You're welco…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 01:32 AM
2

Women give self serving advice, like "just be yourself" ... ("that way you exclude yourself from the dating pool").
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 01:23 AM
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I think you uncovered the deeper problem here. Men encounter emotional/sexual problem. Men find a logical solution. It works. Other men complain about the solution rather than the problem because no one taught them how to think like a man. Let alone act like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 02:38 PM
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All the other stuff helps you to be liked, the stuff you listed helps you to be desired. Both are required, to varying extent, to stimulate the attraction mechanism in people. On a side note some women are insecure or have a lower self image and very little is required if you at least carry yourself confidently and self assuredly. It is human nature to perceive the behaviors you mentioned as indicators that you are higher status. Status in men attracts women. It's not something to be hated or dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 04:21 AM
3

Damn brilliant. Keep preaching the truth to those youngins!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 04:11 AM
20

"...those men are not valued. They are the losers." Shaming language. Proof men are EXPECTED to do all of those things. Whereas women CAN but don't have to. Proof women are viewed as human beings, accepted as is, whereas men are viewed as human doings, only accepted if they achieve for others what others want from them. I know "unmotivated" men who only sometimes have jobs, but they are genuine, kind, thoughtful, helpful, attentive, supportive, loyal, family oriented people. Traditional "female"…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 03:45 PM
12

Indeed! The Cracker Barrel physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 02:04 PM
1

Not talking about getting laid. Sure lower standards or pay cash = get laid. Talking about avoiding serious commitment down the line after she's been worn out
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 05:29 AM
1

Such a young man can at least remember the red pill lesson for later in life when he hits his earning peak and is still unmarried and has physically attractive but baggage laden women pursuing him for a ring and then he can exclude himself as a candidate for wealth extraction the way the younger version of those women excluded themselves as candidates for commitment when he was actively looking, since the wisdom he gained early in life will tell him what they want from him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 05:11 PM
5

And reinforce their likelihood to never EVER get married because they do not want to compromise their own looks standards, but also don't want the baggage of a retired veteran Chad hopper who's near-wall desperate ("had my fun and looking to settle down" ... "Ready for a guy who wants a commitment" ... "Tired of players" ...)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 05:03 PM
2

The statistics speak for themselves. It's a recipe for social decay. Promiscuity leads to single mothers leads to child poverty leads to abortions and violence and sexual abuse and imprisonment of their children leads to a crater where a community once stood. All are connected and highly correlated. The war on and destruction of the nuclear family is a western death sentence. Spread the legs wreck society. Marxist organizations like BLM love it because government becomes the family, which means …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:33 PM
1

He used to lump them together in all his speeches until he became a millionaire from book sales. Then he quietly dropped "millionaires and" from his sentences that included billionaires. He also used to be anti-immigration because it was unsustainable with national socialism (you need to control the influx of needy to not outweigh the stable population of taxpayers otherwise where does the money come from to "redistribute" aka confiscate and spend inefficiently), but then switched his position s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:05 AM
0

Bernie Sanders, if that's you, you already lost the primaries. No means no. Now go back to your million dollar second home where you're allowed to complain about millionaires all you want and stop annoying the American people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 09:24 PM
1

That vision sounds true to reality. Women are the gatekeepers of morality because they decide who to fuck. If they fuck the immoral next generation is immoral. Now look around you. Whose society do we live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 06:20 AM
1

Yeah but funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 06:11 AM
2

By social-hierarchy-obsessed lizard people, you mean fertile women? In seriousness though, well thought out. Someone once called love the involuntary response of the virtuous to virtue. I don't know if I agree but it's a nice ideal and your comment about how those who take it seriously can easily recognize it in others made me recall it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 06:07 AM
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Haha, you make America sound like a third world country because we still have employer based health insurance. Your argument is weak. Women stop fucking dudes for security when they can get just as good or better jobs than the men (Europe, Canada, and the U.S.). Then they just fuck for fun and additional status boost (Chad and Sugar Daddy). Circling back to the healthcare thing, I'd rather have to work for my health insurance than live in a trading Bloc with a 20+ percent unemployment rate among…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:32 AM
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Drug dealers don't all have groupies. They do barter for sex however, if the juice is worth the squeeze.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:18 AM
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Drug dealers don't all have groupies. They do barter for sex however, if the juice is worth the squeeze.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:18 AM
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Been in relationships can confirm. Ball her good she stops whining and arguing for up to two days.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:12 AM
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Jim Halpert staring wide eyed as the camera pans in on his face
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:09 AM
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Someone got an extra shot of cream with their frapp-- heyo!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:07 AM
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Some wicked skinned knees and gravel rash if he wipes out. It's much more fun to stick to mountain biking until you can fall on a proper snow pack again, but hey, if it brings you joy then that's all that matters!
/r/MGTOW207/08/20 04:53 AM
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Maybe a challenge is a more appropriate word for it. The Groucho Marx addage "I'd never join a club that would accept me as a member" applies to dating. It's not that people need to date up to be happy with their choice in a mate, so much as they want to feel like they're dating up. Most game is making yourself seem like you have higher SMV. I can't tell you how many times I've been shocked by how average looking a hot girls boyfriend is. These guys arent nice although they are sometimes asshole…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 03:22 AM
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I agree dating is based on traditional gender norms but disagree that women are taught career focused and independent attracts men. That aspect of feminism is FOMO, gender divisive, and shaming based. They're told men have stolen careers and promotions from them and they need to take back what's theirs/take what they're entitled to. Fellow women use shaming to control each other. If they choose family over career they are looked down on by other women and not respected and excluded from being a …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 01:36 PM
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Haha their brays and howls sweet music to my ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 03:13 AM
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I agree. Watch the Hulu documentary Marrying Mllions. None of them seem happy, even before they marry. They all seem stressed over their relationships. The hyper rich and the hyper poor are the only ones who can afford divorce. Everyone else who gets married is writing a check they'll never be able to cash. And the whole equal earners thing is a big gamble. Your partner could decide to stop working as soon as the ring is on it. Bottom line we want more articles like this. It moves us one step cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 01:27 AM
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If you apply MGTOW logic to it, It's calling poor men unmarriageable to protect the higher earning women from paying alimony and child support. WGTOW in other words. If the underlying principle is do whatever's practical that benefits you, then it is not internally inconsistent. I see nothing wrong with the surface contradiction. It serves as a reminder to all people men and women, protect your interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 12:06 AM
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There's no such thing as being too in control as long as it's in your own best interest. As others have said, know when it's best to seek the advice and services of the experts. And know when it starts to get in your own way: while taking ownership of everything you do frees you from the need to be dependent on others (for happiness, achievement, need and desire fulfillment), and earns you deserved pride for jobs well done, in times of struggle or failure it can play on your mind. Watch your sel…
/r/MGTOW231/07/20 02:02 PM
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Dated one I met IRL back before OLD was the standard. Can confirm. Not always an early warning system with BPD types. Should've had it tattooed on her forehead to distract me from everything below it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:46 AM
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Most alpha males either aren't aware of or aren't interested in TRP because they're getting what they want from women whenever they want it. It's the other 80 percent that find TRP philosophy apt and useful. It's not so much about feeling powerless around women as it is about being systematically stripped of male purpose (ability and desire to provide and protect) through penalizing institutions and reverse discrimination and female indoctrination into have your cake and eat it propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 09:01 PM
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Note all your male shaming language and realize you are doing EXACTLY what OP is claiming men do toward women (berate and belittle): "whining"..."maladjusted men" ... "desperate". You say this "demonizing" of women does more harm than good to society. But isn't it just harming women specifically, in response to the men's individual experiences with women that have already happened? (And you can't use the argument that it's just a bunch of virgin incels) And isn't that the intention, to react in …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 04:07 PM
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True. That's because the complainers are always the loudest. Plus it's not out of character for a red Piller or any man for that matter to vent frustration (silently in past generations, anonymously in this one) in order to confirm a problem exists before doing something about it. Red pill rage is a necessary crisis to experience before realizing the need to make the changes you're talking about and decide whether self improvement and PUA is their course, or juice-not-worth-the-squeeze is, or so…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 04:22 PM
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Now YOU sound like TRP training material with your edit. Thanks for taking TRP's point and making it an exclamation. This is exactly what TRP is about. Being realistic about where you stand in the SMV arena. Doing things to improve yourself, your actions, and their outcomes for your own sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 04:11 PM
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Boom!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 04:07 PM
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Look to Japan. Men will stop associating with women and stop aspiring professionally because it's far easier and less stressful to pay for one than a whole family. It's already happening. College demographics are 60 percent women and growing. I've got multiple friends whose wives vastly out earn them by multiples and multiple single male friends who are habitually unemployed. Eventually the young population will collapse like Japan and Europe causing an unsupportable number of old people with un…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 03:58 PM
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Well thought out post. We crave meaning in life to give us direction. We want to be told what's important and believe it so we know how to act and what to do but being an adult is about deciding for yourself what's important. We end up creating struggle and drama just to feel something and work for it, but unless it's really deeply rooted in your values it's going to quickly start feeling empty, like living someone else's life. I really like Jordan Peterson lectures for motivation when I'm in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 05:55 AM
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Diseases of despair. Prolonged unemployment leading to depression, addiction, alcoholism, isolation, obesity, suicide... Death from these diseases especially among men is on the rise. So much so their life expectancy is going down for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 05:39 AM
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Alcohol was lower ABV for most consumption. Because water sanitation wasn't yet a thing, outside of boiled water in tea and coffee, people were averse to drinking anything BUT beer and wine. And the beer wasn't like it is now, it was a full meal, they left the grains in to keep all the nutrients. It wasn't just cloudy it was chunky.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 05:34 AM
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Brilliantly thought out. How would you respond to the counter-argument: what about the girl who doesn't bounce from alpha to alpha for years, but has her one bad experience and learns from it and stays with an average nice guy? Do these guys just write off that hypothetical as a unicorn? (And is it a unicorn these days?)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 05:13 AM
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It's totally possible. It's just full-MGTOW red pill guys believe that if you're in a LTR you're already losing (less sex, less care about her physical appearance, more expectations on your time, attention, and finances). Of course this is naturally part of a mature stable relationship that is progressing toward having children and starting a family, and doesn't automatically imply you're beta buxx. Relationships with fertile women are parent practice because children require stability and resou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 05:07 AM
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Good point about retirement and long term care. I doubt we will ever be able to download our "selves" into a cloud. Maybe a likeness of our mind and personality. Like the next level beyond text and video. A really high quality immersive AI scrapbook about who we were for our loved ones and for the preservation of knowledge. But I think consciousness, our individual experience, is an extension of our body and is impossible to separate. Life extension through cell regeneration and cell anti-degrad…
/r/MGTOW217/07/20 04:41 AM
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Well done! A paid for car is truly earned.
/r/MGTOW217/07/20 04:32 AM
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"Everyone I know is a month away from doom. Like, on the street living in their car because they can't pay rent" Wow. I hope it's just because you and the people around you are young and just getting their lives started. I'd consider getting yourself some richer friends. There are lots of variations on this sentiment: you are the average of the people you surround yourself with. Also, who you surround yourself with, you become. It sounds like you are a prepper. Life's a lot easier if you know pe…
/r/MGTOW214/07/20 11:55 PM
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Dang man that's really sad and touching. Poor guy. I think it would be really cool to start a nonprofit that helps homeless men specifically. Since the government, nonprofits, and the business community pretty universally ignore this group.
/r/MGTOW214/07/20 11:44 PM
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You can get PUA videos for free or cheap books/CDs/DVDs then just go out with buddies to practice it for free.
/r/MGTOW212/07/20 05:24 AM
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But will you want her when she does? (Kids from an ex or exes, hitting the wall, tired of "dating losers" and looking for a "nice guy" aka someone to pay for her mistakes...)
/r/MGTOW212/07/20 05:17 AM
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Also heard Plenty of Fathers
/r/MGTOW212/07/20 05:14 AM
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He's 25 and interested in MGTOW. Online "dating" for sexual release only with women looking for the same, obviously. The only valid young MGTOW use for Bumble. I couldn't imagine foregoing sex in my 20's. I wasn't that strong. Just never married or cohabitated.
/r/MGTOW202/07/20 06:13 PM
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I agree. I've heard these stories on couples retiring before 40 and living adventurous abroad. Also heard millionaire callers on the Dave Ramsey show who are young married couples. Lucky them. One thing I noticed was most lived in the south or Midwest where lifestyle is more conservative and cost of living is lower (and/or they were Christian conservative and involved with their church), and they married very very young and at least one of them works in STEM.
/r/MGTOW225/06/20 05:49 PM
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You got banned because you overlooked a very important fact: that getting married is the FASTEST and EASIEST way to FIRE. If you're the lazy non bread winner.
/r/MGTOW225/06/20 04:39 PM
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What you're experiencing is existential dread. All things come to an end eventually, including our own life. There are no textbook answers to help you cope with it. You need to look within. Some find longer term goals give their lives meaning. Others believe all life is change so continual adaptation is a successful strategy to thrive. Others believe the path to eternal life is through procreation to continue genes, while others look to religious or spiritual answers. Others still dispense of th…
/r/MGTOW222/06/20 11:41 PM
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Exchange of goods for sex is called the oldest profession for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 04:16 PM
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Says a woman who has not walked in an average or below average single man's shoes. Rejection is much easier to deal with compared to the responses women give. A simple "not interested" or "I have a boyfriend" or "would you mind leaving us alone, we are trying to have a private conversation" etc. would be clear, but women don't like to say that because of their agreeableness or fear of offending or fear of hostility so they divert, dissemble, use nonsequitors, pretend not to hear, blame the man f…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 07:25 AM
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Consider listening to some Jordan B. Peterson lectures and report back. Or try out church. Like one that is involved in community service and giving. The one I'm involved in does some crazy stuff like fund joint task forces that save young Cambodian girls from prostitution and then counsel and house and train them in various trades so they can make a sustainable living. The point of conscious life is to avoid pain at a minimum, satisfy basic needs in general, seek pleasure which is better, and s…
/r/MGTOW220/06/20 06:33 AM
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It depends. How my guy friends and I talk to each other would offend and shock you. How I talk to male strangers and acquaintances would bore and repel you with it's factuality and lack of reciprocal questions. The anecdotal humor wouldn't likely suit your taste. How I talk to female strangers would seem condescending and opaque to men but sensitive and thoughtful to women. How I talk to female friends would be lighthearted and silly to them but sound gay to my guy friends. And how I talk to wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 06:10 AM
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To be fair, to men whose social skills are even just average, women's response is cryptic: chivalry if she likes it, chauvinism if she doesn't... flirting if she likes it, harassment if she doesn't. Men are waking up to the fact that women have all the power. It's just more obvious now with the information available.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 05:54 AM
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Who we are attracted to is what it is. However overt hate and verbal abuse normalizes it. Shaming based on skin color used to be normalized too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 11:57 PM
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True story. They can still get laid casually pretty easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 11:52 PM
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Most women who are on OLD require it. There's major inflation of expectations beyond their looksmatch because it's hookup culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 11:50 PM
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Except that most men (and women) used to be shorter, even just 100 years ago. Selection preference due to greater food scarcity? I suppose if you control for broad trends it would come down to relative height of men compared to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 11:42 PM
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In our youth we all project our own needs and desires on romantic partners. A lot of those needs stem from an attempt to model the love relationship (familial love part, not physical) you received or desired from your parents, but this is based on dependence and codependence. It's immature love based on your need rather than simple enjoyment of the company of someone. It's why it's so devastating when it doesn't work out or they don't meet our expectations. When we attach, we attach tremendous s…
/r/MGTOW217/06/20 11:24 PM
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If it'd been like 1,000 downvotes maybe, not 23. I'd rather speak up, that's my nature. Discerningly and tactfully of course. Like the Eagles song, "just find a place to make your stand"... That's part of my identity as a man. Not staying quiet when everyone else does. I've had big downvotes for comments against cultural Marxism on other forums.
/r/MGTOW216/06/20 09:10 PM
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Ok, duly noted. Tell me it wasn't entertaining though, if for no other reason, whew, thank god that's not me.
/r/MGTOW216/06/20 08:58 PM
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The reason I mentioned it was because he was a lost soul looking for something like mgtow, begging for it, from my perpective. None of the advice was working. What makes you assume I'm a bitter incel? Had my share of success with women over the years, now I'm over the hill (40's), just been red pilled since I was a kid (my sister was never held accountable for her actions). The only thing that makes me mgtow is I judge women individually by the same standards as men. If they're assholes kick the…
/r/MGTOW216/06/20 08:51 PM
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No one says women's shelters are just about "men bad" mentality when women are told to leave their abuser and stay out of relationships until they can work out their codependency issues. That would be viewed as incredibly insensitive. One function of Mgtow is essentially as a support group for an underrepresented group (no men's shelters for men screwed over emotionally and financially by their partners) that serves the same purpose. Men need to be talked to by other men. The fact that it's writ…
/r/MGTOW216/06/20 08:45 PM
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A strong negative reaction at least means my message was heard. This dude was getting whipped by his owner. Maybe others will recognize he's on a plantation and not make the same mistake. A lot of the advice he was being given was masked red pill. I just took the mask off. If anywhere why not in an anonymous forum?
/r/MGTOW216/06/20 07:18 PM
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I'm going to tell you something you already know. You've lost your drive because your primary motivation centered around others rather than yourself. What others think. How others have hurt or wronged or hindered you. Whether others will accept you. None of that matters. All that matters is your own wellbeing. Take care of yourself dude. Start treating yourself like someone you're responsible for and stop taking care of others that don't deserve it. You're helping the wrong people and hurting yo…
/r/MGTOW216/06/20 06:38 AM
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A good test to see if they are actual friends is to talk about women you are attracted to and dating (or make one up convincingly) so they know they're not the center of your world. Also ask for their help with little things occasionally. Like picking up on women. Hey, can you introduce me to her? People invest emotionally when they help you and are more likely to do it in the future. Also a woman can get you the attention of other women better than anything.
/r/MGTOW213/06/20 04:49 PM
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This. You're too young to write women off as sexual/romantic possibilities completely. Most guys come into their own in their 20's and 30's. You're just becoming a man. The more you improve yourself in your aspirations and status and the more you have going on for yourself, friends, cool interesting life and adventures, the more women will be drawn to you. There's so much to look forward to at your age to be defeatist about anything at this stage. Assume neither the best nor the worst about wome…
/r/MGTOW213/06/20 06:23 AM
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Yep because those wimpy guys were raised by women and female teachers and strong female sitcom stars married to weak impotent sitcom men who indoctrinated them with that nonsense. The only ones getting legally discriminated against in jobs are white men thanks to the Lilly Ledbetter Act and the Fair Pay Act. Essentially men subsidize women by working longer hours without getting paid more for equivalent positions so the women can go pick up their kids from school, or else they threaten to sue. B…
/r/MGTOW212/06/20 07:51 AM
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We as men are instinctively providers and protectors. It is an identity crisis that we all must face when we realize that there are those who will take advantage of what was once a positive thing. They shit all over your image of yourself as a good person trying to do what's right. Fuck people like that.
/r/MGTOW212/06/20 07:42 AM
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Parasites are bred exponentially faster than engineers.
/r/MGTOW212/06/20 07:39 AM
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Yep math smart and interpersonal skills are verrrrry different things, often mutually exclusive.
/r/MGTOW212/06/20 07:37 AM
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Sorry to hear that. The biggest tragedy being the spoiled relationship with your kids. Are there any non legal lessons you could offer us? Like what to watch out for when selecting or avoiding girlfriends/partners, in your experience? Or do you think they're all chameleons?
/r/MGTOW212/06/20 07:35 AM
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That's because you were asking questions they either can't or don't want to answer. You outed yourself. It's like asking a fan of a football team what they believe in. That's got nothing to do with it. It's blind allegiance to a group. It's just instinctive tribal belonging. And winning. When the team wins they're happy and when they lose they're sad. Questioning why might get them to question and logic is the enemy of blind allegiances. You don't belong to the tribe or offer to help it at your …
/r/MGTOW212/06/20 07:29 AM
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Agree with everything except don't have kids because they cost a quarter mil. That's average. People buy their kids a lot of stupid expensive stuff. You don't need to pay for their college. Or buy them cars. Or take them on fancy trips. Or pay for expensive lessons. You just need to feed and clothe them. You already have housing, they can share a room with siblings. Family health plans are nominally more expensive, so you're already paying for other people's kids whether you realize it or not. L…
/r/MGTOW212/06/20 07:20 AM
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It's hard to catch, because the someone actually exists, is receiving the money, and will back the story with the IRS that she works to keep getting the money. Also payroll taxes are being paid on it so what does the IRS care? It's not some scheme to lower taxes if the wife's daughter is married to a doctor. She's paying tax at a high bracket too. Stepdad doesn't benefit at all, so there's no motive. He's not trying to bypass estate and gift tax because they're paying more in regular payroll tax…
/r/MGTOW212/06/20 06:58 AM
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That's not all thats being spread in that toilet stall
/r/MGTOW208/06/20 05:49 AM
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All male attention is sexual harassment... Unless they like it. If that's not unilateral power I don't know what is.
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 07:43 PM
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I agree with almost everything. I would like to add that the family system was also destroyed by Reagan bringing in no fault divorce as most states have followed suit. The free love movement and birth control of the boomers made women acceptable mates even if they were sluts, and exonerating them from blame when they divorce for reasons like dissatisfaction. Also weaponizing women against men by spreading false pay gap narratives and the executive branch passing acts that are treated like legisl…
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 07:27 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that... Is there a particular reason?
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 06:51 PM
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Then go out and celebrate!
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 06:44 AM
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I have a theory about that housing bubble. I used to think it would burst until I realized all the money "printing" (technically lending trillions and trillions out at zero interest, so the same effect) has caused inflation. We just don't see it yet because it's all stored up in assets of older people (real estate, stocks, metal, crypto). So if/when money flows out of assets and into consumption when boomers and their heirs sell, look out because everything is going to get a LOT more expensive. …
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 05:50 AM
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Love it. They fail to get that if you take away a man's evolutionary purpose (to provide and protect for a woman and his offspring) that he has no need to work hard to earn. It's a pleasant fate kicking back and playing video games while women punch themselves in the face biologically, economically, and socially. Just hope they don't figure out our game and make us literal slaves like the Egyptians did. We'll be building pyramid sized cat scratching posts.
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 05:33 AM
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No need to do what they want. Just want you want. You are the prize. Women your age are hitting the wall as your value rises.
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 05:25 AM
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Bahahaha... Is there like... A community college course on becoming a drug dealer?
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 05:19 AM
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Yup that plan would fail when she would lose interest because you wouldn't move her to the west or shower her family with money and she hopped to a new dick that was grateful and happy to.
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 05:16 AM
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I'm on the cusp between gen x and millenial and the debt was under 1 trillion when I was a kid (late 1980s). The boomers fuuuucked us with the politicians they voted in. In 2004 G.W. saw the writing on the wall, dim as his perception was, and tried to make social security like a 403b savings account. AARP stopped that quick. Now it's a steaming pile of debt and should completely grind to a halt before we retire. They'll raise your taxes and give you nothing in return.
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 05:13 AM
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Everything about this resonates with me. Middle class no debt = winning. I'm just sad because gen x and millennials will likely be the last to even achieve middle class, the more 30+ women marry the state and outnumber men as voters. In 50 years, we'll all be eating worse than their cats.
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 05:05 AM
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You must be top 20 percent in the looks department?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 04:48 AM
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What if she's a 7 or 8 in the looks department and a 10 in the personality department? Would you "wife" her?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 04:15 AM
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Most people let the loins take lead, which is fine. But they never even invite the brains to the dance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 04:11 AM
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Wait so how have you had so many others if you're in your first LTR? "We were on a break!" -- Ross Gellar
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 04:04 AM
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Agree. Except monogamous relationships dominating. It's common sense that there are more casual ones but more of our lifetime spent in monogamous ones to raise them crotchfruit. Almost everyone hits the wall and settles in for the loooooooong sexless winter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 05:43 PM
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Yep. Both high SMV men and high SMV women cheat wayyyyyyy more
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 05:25 PM
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I agree with you there is risk. All life is risk. And I also agree that women have limited fertility years so they need to select wisely and timely. Im iffy about calling men an investment even though it's a good analogy. But if women treated the selection process more like an investment there would be a lot more financially successful "beta males" in their 20s out there with wives. And a lot fewer women still in the looking for a husband phase after 35 when their SMV is diving chasing after tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 05:03 PM
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"Explain the difference between losers and unestablished" Good question. Work ethic is the biggest. Are they dedicated to a goal? Do they take it seriously by devoting serious time and effort? Is it a goal that is reasonably attainable based on their trajectory (ie if they're failing their classes, or if their goal is to become a one in 100 million superstar you statistically have a loser). Is it a goal that has prospects? (ie majoring in English vs Engineering). Also, are they adaptable? Are th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 04:49 PM
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Actually they cheat more before age 30 when they are chased by most men. Obviously men cheat more after 30 once they're established. So maybe we can agree that People are only as loyal as their options. https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 04:21 PM
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True. But you poached "Women are only as loyal as their options" from PUA material and substituted in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 04:15 PM
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That's a bleak outlook. Since women are the gatekeepers of sex, aren't you really complaining about immoral homewrecking women who are too lazy to get their own man so they just want to poach preselected ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 04:12 PM
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Not sure they "hate" it, some guys like being told what to do.... I don't think men, or people for that matter, change unless they want to, and they are less likely to improve if they are getting regular sex. Women who choose unestablished men who are working towards something are just along for the ride not investing since the guy will improve on his own. Women who invest in losers will end up past prime dating age still dating losers. My personal belief is that you have to look at the characte…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 04:04 PM
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What does skiing have to do with cheating? Asking because I love skiing...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 03:56 PM
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I thought you were going to say peepee on her. That's where my mind went. True it always gets more demanding the longer you keep it around.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:25 AM
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It used to make sense when men and women mated for life. She traded sex and offspring and fidelity for security and resources. It was a fair(er) trade. But then came birth control, and women's empowerment of the "I don't need no man" variety and federal equal pay and hiring laws and alimony and child support and no fault divorce and now we're supporting all the women without any of the benefits in return, and marriage is like a big cherry on top to extract even more resources beyond the baseline…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:19 AM
2

"Hordes of Normies": I want a band to name themselves that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:08 AM
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That's true, there could be some inexperienced dudes assuming the worst about women just because somebody on reddit or YouTube tells them that dinner on a first date is asking to be taken advantage of. It's not a hard and fast rule either. I've broken it many times when I was already vibing with a girl beforehand over the phone or during in person non date interactions, and a first date dinner came off as classy and led to second dates, sex, relationships, or some combination. I think part of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:00 AM
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Harsh but you have a good point that there has to be some past failures leading to their joining FDS for tips to avoid them in the future. There is some serious cognitive dissonance going on there the way they shit on men in that sub yet they want a relationship with one. They'll still keep talking big and keep breaking all the FDS rules I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:46 AM
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I disagree. It's not about having a bad attitude, but about reading people and situations. It's also about avoiding framing the date as a beta-provider whose time is less valuable by paying for her more valuable time. Nothing wrong with just meeting for coffee or a drink at first.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:37 AM
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The stats are pretty clear. High N count = high chance of infidelity and divorce. But how do you detect a high N count woman? Don't most lie about their count to a potential LTR partner if it's high? Polygraph on the 3rd date?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:50 AM
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Marrying a promiscuous woman based on these stats would be more like swimming in shark infested waters while wearing chum as a bathing suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:41 AM
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I think we found the useful part of this whole argument at the end there: "You ... Can't get get divorced from a slut without first marrying a slut".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:38 AM
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Maybe he had a shameful fetish he was grateful she satisfied and kept secret. Sounds like the type. Plus if he was way older maybe the money didn't matter because it was such a small part of his net worth? Lots of guys like that on sugar daddy dating websites. Most frequent users: engineers, doctors, lawyers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:08 PM
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Ok miss obvious. All straight men put the looks and willingness to have sex as the number one and number two qualifications for having sex with a woman. Men are hard wired to mate with genetic fertility markers. They then add lower priority stuff as deal makers/breakers based on culture and preferences but these vary wildly. If they're going for a LTR it's still to have sex with so looks and willingness requirements still apply. If looks don't matter then the relationship is called friendship. D…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 03:41 PM
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This car discussion all feels like an analogy for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 03:06 PM
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Exactly. There's a sucker born every minute. Plenty of people overpay for their cars. That doesn't mean car ownership is a scam. It comes down to what you get out of it. This dude was getting something out of it. Reliable "rides"? A certain image? Who knows. Although she was getting way more. That's 100 percent on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 03:03 PM
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It's a whole package thing. Attractiveness + personality - total debt + earning potential. It only seems overlooked because there are more popular topics on here. It is important though. Big loans on stupid degrees implies someone who doesn't look very far in the future, has been coddled from reality his or her entire life, hasn't had a real job yet, or lacks common sense. None of which bode well for long term partner because that's taking on the responsibility of a dependent child in the body o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 02:58 PM
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Yeah... Trench warfare... Heaven.... Suuuuuure.
/r/MGTOW225/05/20 04:56 AM
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Yes to all of this. Also would like to point out to wine mom not to tell your son if a woman rejects him he can simply "keep working to get what he wants", that's called stalking. Women give the worst dating advice to their sons. The worst!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 04:03 PM
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FDS mixes in as much self delusion as TRP does. I look at the benefits to society objectively. Even if they overinflate their value, at least women on FDS are attempting to practice self control and not be as big of sluts as their pre-FDS counterparts. Whatever keeps the body count under control. Women are the gatekeepers to sex. It's comforting to know someone is finally watching the gate, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 06:06 PM
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Everything we try to layer on top of sexual attraction, sex, and pair bonding is essentially made up and in our heads. Romance vs. transactional are opposite ends of a made up spectrum. The latter is just a learning tool to rewire men's brains to stop acting like beta sexless cucks. As a man I was frustrated and sexless when I applied the romance framework. I was a lot more successful sexually when I dispensed of the notion of romance and used cold analysis to navigate the waters of the opposite…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 05:05 PM
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The world needs more talented MGTOW writers. I would buy if you wrote books!
/r/MGTOW223/05/20 03:38 PM
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The only behavior you actually mentioned related to sex. Actual self improvement means something other than appearances and sexual performance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 05:50 AM
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Notice that OP does not mention that women improve their character/personality. Just superficial stuff. Guess she proved the difference between TRP and FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 04:41 AM
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I would substitute "person" with "man". The average man is having less casual sex. The above average man (top 20 percent looks) is having a whole lot more because of swipey swipe left right dating apps. The average woman is having more casual sex. They're trading Chads around like hot potatos to shatter the record.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 04:47 PM
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It's been a long time since you've done deep work on yourself. One thing I know is that happy people are attractive. Happy people are not checked out mentally and emotionally. They are engaged in life and their surroundings. They are interested and curious. Find/remember what you are passionate about and pursue it to re-engage my friend. Everything else in your life will follow: money, women, respect. People are naturally attracted to leaders. For men, age is a minor factor. Become the center of…
/r/MGTOW221/05/20 03:23 PM
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Exactly. He ain't going so far that he can't get back to his Tesla in a day or two. Nobody abandons their baby like that. Have fun living at a trailer park with the seniors! Let me know how you do at bingo night...
/r/MGTOW220/05/20 04:00 PM
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"validation of their self worth" Yeah, this post was written by a woman. Who did not grow up with a meat seeking missile between her legs. There's a lot of psychological postulating that doesn't do the biological drive as a man to mate with an actual human female justice. Porn and dolls simulate it and are intensely pleasurable for boys/men especially young ones. But an interactive experience will simulate it much better. Better enough the more realistic it becomes to replace dating for sex, as …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 06:28 PM
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The "club" being in a marriage with, in this case. It was popularized by self loathing comedians to express their pessimistic viewpoint on social dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 02:49 PM
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No they can fall in love. They can just much more easily fall out of love. It affects women primarily, and approaching that number makes them most likely to divorce, as a group. It's not that it's high for me, it's just the riskiest class of people to marry if you don't want to be divorced: https://ifstudies.org/blog/does-sexual-history-affect-marital-happiness https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4085758/Experts-reveal-sexual-partners-ve-determine-likely-DIVORCE.html
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 06:25 AM
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I found the opposite was true as an above average income below average height, average looks man. I could get sex, and sometimes with 6's and soft 7's in the looks department (my attraction standard), it's just they weren't marriage material (broke, crazy, unhealthy, manipulative, liars, or immature - generally untrustworthy). I'm now in my 40's, have great stories and wild passionate times and met someone who is my match values wise and looks wise, but I've so eclipsed her financially that I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:35 AM
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What if you're somewhat successful (six figures), which narrows your prospects to maybe 1 or 2 out of 10 who are wealth-matched, you are intelligent and social but objectively average in looks (a 5 or 6) and height (5'9") which narrows your prospects again to 1 or 2 out of 10, now there are maybe 1 or 2 out of 100 average looking (not hot and not boobed up) women who will even go on a date with you in an ideal world, and you work full time so the time commitment to find one average woman and loc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:25 AM
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All you said was you'd marry yourself. I'm assuming you believe youre a monumental exception to the AWALT rule from your description. So if you were a statistically average man, would you marry an average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:07 AM
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They used to call TradCon men "good men". They used to call TradCon women "virtuous" with "good reputations".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 12:18 AM
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Home improvements: already put in a flower garden in the front yard, now doing some wood repairs and next up a drip and sprinkler system in the back yard, followed by a big vegetable garden and a rainwater catchment system. Trying to move toward self sufficiency slowly...
/r/MGTOW218/05/20 02:40 PM
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That's huge! I've always wanted to do that. I'd buy a novel by a MGTOW if I knew they were one.
/r/MGTOW218/05/20 02:37 PM
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There's another buzzword that doesn't have any actual meaning other than "men bad". Terms like Patriarchy and toxic masculinity are all just anti male sentiment. Essentially ascribing the bad behavior of a few to all members of a group (men). It's bigotry even though it's directed at men. It's like saying female idiocy, or women's inferiority or word for feminine-negative word.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 07:46 PM
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What do you mean by patriarchal attitudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 07:24 PM
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OP: how are women still shafted? How are they in any conceivable way worse off than men? Also, even if you say misandry is as bad as misogyny, which it is, and then ban both, it's not like you're done there. You are engaged in a slippery slope towards banning and silencing anything and everything that goes against some pop dogma and there is no way to have a meaningful discussion with all viewpoints weighed and considered. My opinion is people should be allowed to form their own opinion even if …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 05:21 PM
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You know as well as I do none of the things you are proposing will ever happen, right? It's bad for business. And big businesses write the laws, literally. they hire attorneys to write them and lobbyists to bribe.... err promote them to congress. Women do 70 percent of the domestic spending. The more female friendly work environments and preferential hiring and welfare handouts the more money you give them. The more money you give them the more they spend. The more they spend the higher stock pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 04:47 PM
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I wasn't offering a solution, just an explanation for the decline in cold approaches. Do you have a solution for this broad social trend?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 03:30 PM
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Thank you. Seemed relevant since commenter was in a feminism-before-red-pill O.G. rant. I was upping the O.G. to communism-before-feminism. Since you kiddos are quarantined from school I brought old school back in session, son!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 04:33 AM
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Feminism (second and third wave) was popularized by communist subversives to undermine the strength of the male-female diad that made up the nuclear family in the West. Basically it supplants the male as the protector, provider and family leader with the government, itself the tool by which the ultra rich can control and direct the behavior of people to perpetuate their power. Divide and conquer the ancient relationship of marriage to get men who were formerly protecting susceptible women from t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 04:23 AM
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"under control" Jerry Seinfeld said it best by comparing sex to a car crash. Basically there's yelling, screeching, banging... You don't know what's going on at the time, but at the end you're lucky if you're thrown clear. Point being, MGTOW philosophy is that if sex is involved there's risk. And like car crashes there's insurance (condoms, no commitments) to deal with the damage. But if youre killed (condom breaks) insurance can't bring you back to life (get you off the hook for child support).…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 03:46 AM
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Ok, but isn't that just the MGTOW philosophy side of things? Understanding women's true nature, and protecting self accordingly?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 03:28 AM
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Thanks for the clarification. I'm new to the forums but have been MGTOW, MRA, PUA to various degrees in various times of my life and thought TRP was a blanket concept that covered it all. Has TRP evolved into it's own thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 03:20 AM
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When your expectations (i.e. from women) have caused you harm, you modify your expectations (from women). Makes a lot of sense. "I think of a man... then I take away reason and accountability" -- Jack Nicholson on how to depict women, As Good as It Gets
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 03:15 AM
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I didn't say religious communities weren't good for everyone. I agree that they are. But I think that a culture that fosters faithful, loyal, uncorrupted women is the best benefit of religious communities for men. Having an available group of potential partners of that quality incentivizes men to produce, develop, and improve society in a way that nothing else does. Otherwise they really have nothing to work for, no future and no family. Everything they build will be only enough for themselves. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 10:34 PM
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He should be insecure. Dangerous men have a lot of sex. Well dangerous, powerful alphas. There's that tipping point where if you're a dangerous beta you're a rogue predator but a dangerous alpha she thinks you can protect her. The Sons of Anarchy effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 04:43 PM
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This confirms what most were thinking: it's welcome if she's attracted, somewhere between annoying and threatening if she's not. Be warned gentlemen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 04:33 PM
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Two words: online dating. If we assume cold approaches have the same failure rate as a swipe left swipe right app for an average looking guy (90 to 100 percent of the time depending on looks and standards), which form of rejection would you prefer on the daily? Plus it's so much easier to get rejected from the comfort of your home. Also I think guys are still hooking up with women in their social circle (i.e. friends of friends).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 04:29 PM
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"Acclimatized/westernized" = fucked the pair bonding out of her
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 04:18 AM
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This is why religious communities are good for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 04:16 AM
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Depends on your individual preferences. I'm late Gen X, and I know I'm the minority but from my experience, for a LTR if she's had more than 5 there was something off about her that made her not good wifey material (not able to keep a LTR going). I tend to think the body count was a result of the problem rather than a cause. I dated one who had fewer but was nuts. Surprisingly she ended up marrying right under the wire at 4 or 5, so maybe she got her act together after we broke up or that guy to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 03:41 AM
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I'm well aware of taxes as a tax expert and this is a misnomer. In the US the benefits are negligible if you split them in half and compare Married Filing Jointly to exemptions and deductions of two Singles. The main benefit is split costs in cohabitation which doesn't require marriage. And nothing will change with family courts unless women join the fight. They won't join unless men refuse to marry or women out earn men so much they become the primary victims of the wealth extraction. Both are …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:39 PM
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She could but she has a kid from a prior marriage and they split custody and no forced payments either direction. Not marrying, she understands, is my protest of the family court system until it's changed. And prenups can get thrown out by a fam court judge unilaterally and subjectively for being "unconscionable" whatever TF that means, since conscionable in a community property state means she gets half of your earnings and wealth gain you get half of hers. I make and save a lot, and earn a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:07 PM
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I did find a woman like that and we are trying. It says she understands and accepts me for my beliefs since Im forthright about them. And it says I judge her values to be similar to my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:36 PM
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If a man is more qualified for a job than a woman but it goes to her because quota. Happens all the time in government, government contracting, and high male high paying low physical fields like STEM, because feminism says the jobs "should" be "theirs" and takes them not based on merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:32 PM
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I think when we try something new in regards to our habits it takes a lot of force to break free of the gravity of our old habits. This is a natural overcompensation that can appear to others as though we are going overboard, but often necessary to reset our perception of our own identity. When I was trying to be more social and less shy I went out to bars and clubs every Fri, Saturday and some other weekdays for social sports leagues. Those closest to you will erroneously expect small changes o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:41 AM
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I like the homeless guy analogy. Poor bastard literally gets no help. Meanwhile if he had tits and a v all he would have to do is have a kid. Then the state would provide money, food, housing, free medical care, free tuition for job training, job placement assistance, and free daycare for the crotchfruit. You women have the golden ticket in your slot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:50 AM
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And vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:45 AM
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Well I personally take from it what I want. PUA was useful to understand attraction. MRA was useful in putting to words what I always felt about the family courts. And MGTOW was what replaced stigma with acceptance if I choose not to participate in marriage. Coming from the last few years of Gen X, I experienced bits of the good times (more of the traditional values) right as they were fading away, so I don't include myself in the victim category. Even as a beta by physique my personality/intell…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:37 AM
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Don't forget that society openly sabotages men in addition to using shaming language like "losers". From where I'm standing there is a fine line between losers and victims. If men are smart they will organize a revolution over this shit and take back what's theirs: Almost all female teachers K-12 grading girls higher (there are studies when there are female teachers and they don't know the gender of the students they grade boy's work higher than if they did know their gender), education system i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:00 AM
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So much wisdom here, it must be repeated: married people lie like bastards about being happy to other people because society shames people for saying they're not happily married. a hot bedroom that will eventually go dead is not better than an empty bed... And the sex never stays good. Once she gets in her comfort zone, the bait comes off the hook.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:36 AM
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This stat may be skewed because those in marriages are statistically older, and older people are more established and thus past the uncertainties and strifes of the quarterlife crisis. Also women benefit substantially more in marriages so they make up the majority of the uptick. Look at the converse stat, like a third of women over 35 are on antidepressants. Bet those are the singles. Also in marriages the sex declines precipitously year over year so as far as any of the young men in this sub go…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:26 AM
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I agree with your point. One problem with TRP is it focuses on women's shallowness and narcissism (admittedly rampant in millennial/gen z) but completely overlooks it in the men of the same generation. I mean social media/online dating did a number on both sexes. And shallowness/narcissism does not a real let alone healthy, functional, or realistic relationship make. Speaking as a red piller, TRP needs to tone down their victim narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:18 AM
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Grandma can do some magic when she takes her teeth out
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:13 AM
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Nowhere in my post did I mention money. I'm talking about biology and emotion and acts of kindness. If you marry a man because he's a king in your eyes, and you show him you believe it, he will treat you like a queen. I have run from relationships and never looked back when the woman assumed the worst of me, or when the going got tough she henpecked and sabotaged rather than trusted and supported. Best expression I ever heard was there are two types of people in the world, problem solvers and pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:01 AM
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I agree it's a lot of work, but I also believe a good partnership is one in which they support each other and work to make one another's life easier. This is where the expression behind every good man is "an even better woman" comes from. It is hyperbole, but hints at a traditional role that sadly most gen x, y, z women weren't taught: you are on a team with your partner, not in competition. You don't win unless he wins spectacularly. It doesn't mean you can't have a career and have tremendous p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:48 AM
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I would like kids, but not through marriage in its current legal form. And only with a woman whose character I absolutely trust. Who also shares my values and supports red pill and men's rights fully. A very rare woman indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:36 AM
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Are you serious? To play Russian Roulette with a pistol half loaded? To risk becoming a financial slave to a woman who will one day at best be apathetic and at worst despise you, for life? Marriage is the worst possible deal for men who earn more than their partner. Their children are used as bargaining chips for legalized extortion. At least in most Western countries. Until family laws undergo serious changes. I recommend watching The Red Pill documentary by Cassie Jaye. That is a toned down ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:30 AM
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I think this is a good point. Lower economic opportunity for peak fertility generations is huge. Women on a population level tend not to commit to men who can't support children financially. Look at low socioeconomic demographics (high welfare areas). Compounded by public assistance programs that discourage marriage (because they'll cut off assistance when there's higher family income) and you're looking at way fewer stable households and way fewer babies. In fact, if you're poor, female, pregna…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:19 AM
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Am I the only one who noticed this guy admits to dating his aunt? Epic would not be the word that comes to mind.
/r/MGTOW214/05/20 08:48 PM
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I was going to also ask OP what his sources were other than anecdotal. He can't call his anecdotes the rule and then any anecdotes to the contrary simply become "exceptions to the rule". My experience is some types of men can be equally controlling and want women to bend to their will. Ive had this tendency in certain past relationships and realized when it happened I probably wasn't with a good match for my personality to begin with. An interesting subject area though. I think most MGTOW are fa…
/r/MGTOW213/05/20 04:15 PM
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Post this to FDS pleeeeeease
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 05:27 AM
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Upvote for the work put into this definition. I'm submitting it to Merriam-Webster for entry. Too good for Urban Dictionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 05:25 AM
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So meta.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 05:17 AM
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And on purge weeks you can throw babies in the cage too. Anything goes!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 05:15 AM
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Hookup culture aka herpes roulette.
/r/MGTOW213/05/20 03:17 AM
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Obvy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 03:08 AM
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That's cruel to gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 03:06 AM
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I'm 5'6" and say I'm 6'5". Hmm must've been a typo. Since you're here, how bout my great personality, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 03:02 AM
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She better wait around in her sluttiest outfit after the NBA game
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 03:00 AM
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Well, fortunately for you, you can be choosy. Lucky bastard.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 02:54 AM
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The issue is they don't lock down a LTR or at least verify Chad wants one with her before getting pregnant. Then poof he's gone. And she's tumbling down the monkey branches, grasping for something solid to cling to. Like a full wallet attached to a guy. Female nature kicks in when she's got to feed a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:45 AM
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American guys are well aware what normal weight is. We are bombarded by land whales in yoga pants and hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:32 AM
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I think it's a misunderstanding about what a Chad is... any 6ft+ dude in the top 20 percent in looks department judged by women. Women's tastes change depending on the season.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:28 AM
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Oh white women are willing to date white men, as long as they're 6 foot tall with abs. Their standards are crazy high. But that's ok because Asian women are better in every way. Statistically they're more feminine and skinnier and smarter. Plus they dont look worn out by 35 like white women. Not being in a LTR with a white woman is like some tall dude taking your place in a game of Russian Roulette.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:07 AM
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You are obviously very intelligent, and your arguments are also well thought out. But I can't help suspecting you aren't actually libertarian in your premises at least. You use identical virtue signalling and class guilt strategies as the american left, the soviets, the kmer rouge before them, and South African government presently. You asked for a solution and my solution literally is cut that shit out. Because there's no bridging certain divides in cultural and political belief, it's best not …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 10:09 PM
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You discount my example of enslaved whites in history just because it wasn't in America. You can't pick and choose your stance on what slavery is your responsibility, otherwise the argument that "it wasn't ME or my ancestors who enslaved blacks therefore it's not my responsibility to provide reparations" becomes valid, since it is equivalent to you saying "it wasn't America who enslaved whites, therefore it's not my responsibility to do the same for them." Your own white/American guilt argument …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:53 PM
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Many of my European ancestors were enslaved by Muslims sending abduction mobs from ships. The coastal poaching got so bad Europeans were fleeing coastal villages. My Irish immigrant ancestors were considered "Ethnic" whites and treated worse than dogs when they arrived in New England. They made it though despite the discrimination and overt hostility. The solution IS self sufficiency and equal opportunity. Which we already have. Nothing more is needed. Not preferential treatment and hand outs. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:37 PM
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A cautionary tale for sure. I had the same thing, two Christian raised brothers who were my friends were always lecturing me about duty when I would decline helping undeserving people. They both married sluts who cheated regularly. One got cucked and he didn't even know the baby wasn't his until like age 6 or 7. The other brother's wife moved in with her drug dealer as soon as they split.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:30 PM
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Escorts main job is to make guys feel desired and validated. Same with mistresses. Their secondary job is to service the plumbing. So you are right that sexbots have some big shoes to fill and it'll be a long time before tech can do so. But the allure of achieving that, without the risk of disease or arrest stings or judgment on performance from a live escort is super powerful. Combined with an VR headset I don't think we are that far off from live women controlling the sex robot remotely (at le…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:24 PM
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Oh ok my bad .. tone and nuance lost on a written post sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:17 PM
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Yup, you're right on both accounts. You'd be surprised how many women turn their street smarts off when attracted to a guy. Like, most in my opinion. And all women love drama. If they can't have it vicariously they'll cause it on the people around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:15 PM
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These are definitely anecdotes but some unfortunately are smart women (one went to Stanford later for grad school, another in med school in NY...) But the rest run the intelligence spectrum, and I wouldn't call them all friends, women just love to tell her their juicy details, but they ARE all "dumb". They don't pry deep enough before they spread their legs, ignore red flags, and I believe with the first-hand experience I've had in my earlier years (and I'm no Chad, maybe a top 60 percenter with…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:09 PM
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Whites were the first to codify the end of slavery. Still going on in Latin, Asian, African, and Miiddle Eastern countries. Wouldn't your time be better served crusading where there's actually a humanitarian crisis?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:38 PM
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First off, my ancestors didn't own slaves. But you know whose did? Barak Obama's. Dems are a bunch of hypocritical asses who were literally responsible for slavery (look it up, no Republicans did) and since then are overcompensating by infantilizing and anesthetizing black communities with huge sums of free money until the family structure breaks down because who needs guys around if Uncle Sam is your daddy? The free money IS the problem. Same shit is happening in Indian (Tribal) Country. The th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:35 PM
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Bruh. A primary statistic from a statistical study is by definition neither anecdotal, nor outlier. It's also common knowledge, on Wikipedia, not some conservative pseudo scientific foundation website.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:19 PM
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Then why IRL are they always complaining to my gf about how the guys (average dudes, some kinda knarled and not top 10 percent just got game) they hook up with aren't ready to commit, and then they prattle off all these reasons the guys give, and the reasons make me laugh how obvious they are (I'm working on getting my career started, my ex really did a number on me, etc.) Shit that women accept but guys just use as excuses when cornered by women they are using as cum receptacles to let them dow…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:06 PM
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JBP voice again... "Depends on what you mean by dropping out"... You know red pill includes PUA's not just incels right? Women be getting played by terpers all the time, who have no plans to ever commit which is a type of drop out. Soooo.... Invisible? More like right under your nose.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:38 AM
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I think you're thinking of feminism. TRP and MGTOW came after the destruction, which came after feminism and anti-male legislation and family court corruption. Which, let's face it, was all just a huge shit test by women that cucked out hippie dudes simped their way to failing. Thanks a lot grandpa. You get no visits at the facility.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:31 AM
2

K but most men aren't alphas or incels. Most men are betas. The average man is desired for relationship by 30+ yr old women. So you wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:26 AM
3

In the best JBP voice I can muster... "Well that depends on what you mean by 'screw'"...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:20 AM
0

What's the difference between omega and delta males... And why aren't there epsilons? As a Huxley fan I was promised!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:19 AM
3

They're mad about sharing the top 10% in their early 20s, the top 20% in their late 20s, and the top 30% in their early 30s. From then on they're mad at the bottom 70% for existing, as they pet all their cats with one hand and rub ointment on their herpes with the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:14 AM
5

Uh oh the Fyre festival has competition... lookout JaRule!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:01 AM
6

Took me a minute. Also, actual capitalism under small government vs crony capitalism when you vote the false dichotomy of Democrat or Republican
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:57 AM
15

"and we hate the three incels on the right because they're so horrible"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:54 AM
1

If it was a war, men already lost. That's why MGTOW. I view PPD as a chance to understand where the somewhat enlightened women's heads are at, and maybe bounce some perspectives off the purplers they haven't considered before.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:54 AM
2

The accusation and criminal charges and college tribunals and academic expulsion alone can ruin a young man for years if not decades, even if the charges are dismissed. Just the financing costs of bail and the cost to retain a lawyer and go through the motions of arraignment and pretrial hearings will cost in the tens of thousands of dollars, if not a hundred thou.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:45 AM
1

Im passionate too that there should be consequences for proven false accusations but it's a huge challenge not just in the justice system, but in general to prove the negative. The risk is that legitimately raped women will be too scared to come forward for risk of their legitimate accusation not resulting in a conviction, and then exposing them to serious felony charges. Imagine that, if you can't prove it even though it happened. So ok it's one thing if he walks but a whole other thing if he c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:42 AM
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True. Institutionalized for sure. It's fucked what our government has done to the black community specifically, under the guise of "helping". Just housing alone: https://prospect.org/article/public-housing-government-sponsored-segregation/ But public subsidy programs and their deleterious effect on the nuclear family.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:28 AM
2

Ok I thought you meant that many separate sessions in a day. As a guy even at my peak it wasn't happening more than 5 or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:23 AM
1

It's not funny because it's racist, it's also the baby bump. She's about to give birth! Get them clean towels and hot water! Now's your big chance to be the hero, beta boy! Be her Travolta and she'll be your Kirstie Alley! You can babysit while she goes on dates. She will really appreciate you then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:20 AM
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It's racist for sure, but based on statistics: 70 percent of black children are born to unmarried parents, while 94 percent of segmented black families were comprised of an unmarried mother (as opposed to unmarried father). Mind you these are 1992 studies, and have NOT improved: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_family_structure#African-American_nuclear_families
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:14 AM
2

"I don’t think they will replace women bc I feel part of it is the power men feel when women submit to them. Can’t dehumanize a robot. They’ll get bored." This makes no sense. Basically you're saying guys want a challenge. You're projecting womanly desires on men. Men don't want a challenge, they want a willing participant. Go back to feminist studies class and remind them they're all women so how would they know. "All I need are two tits, a hole and a heartbeat.... Sometimes I don't even need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:02 AM
3

Wow 10+ times a day! Respec'.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 02:45 AM
2

Or prescient. Maybe not reject, but up-charge based on personal need and desire. There really is no upper limit to profit when AI can simply query your search history and say yep, you want this baaaaaad. It's gonna cost ya! I'm not for it, it's cruel and unusual, but im just saying, if it was your business you'd be maximizing profits.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 02:41 AM
1

C'mon people! Seven movie reference too high brow? Wife's severed head may or may not be in there... Schrodinger would've deemed it apropos. Also box is a euphemism for pussy??? The layers, the subtlety, the succinctness. Genius is often misunderstood by it's generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 02:33 AM
7

Way too generous hairline.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:16 AM
1

Who said anything about the economy? Since it's not mansplaining because your question implies you don't know what im talking about, quick analogy: If I earned 100k a year (2.5 trillion)but spent 200k a year, and took a loan for the difference every year because of all the promises I made, and was now over a million (25 trillion) in debt, I would have the relative spending magnitude of the US Govt. And I then decided to spend more by paying for all my female friends' student loans because they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:32 PM
7

No good deed goes unpunished.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 06:31 AM
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First off sister, you get you that drivers license and library card and you go apply for that job. But when elections come around, for God's sake, stay home from the polls and don't even think about mailing in that ballot. Plenty of consensus in TRP community that statistically you'll vote for things irrespective of what they cost. All governments who allow women to vote are on an ever accelerating spiral to financial ruin. Here's the doomsday clock: https://www.usdebtclock.org/ Unless you're a …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 06:28 AM
0

"What's in the box! What's in the box!?" -- Brad Pitt
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 05:44 AM
3

More taxes on the middle class, more handouts to the poor, more regulations, and less free market options. Obama's not a socialist like Biden's not a pervert.
/r/MGTOW210/05/20 02:06 AM
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"When there's blood on the street buy property" --Baron Rothschild "Never let a crisis go to waste" -- Rahm Emmanuel One was a capitalist pig, the other is a socialist (well Obama Democrat) bastard. Both can agree on a subject.
/r/MGTOW209/05/20 07:22 PM
1

I get what you're saying. If I could never get domestic hot chicks but could easily get foreign ones, I would assume it was because of access to citizenship. And I would dangle that citizenship like a mofo. No shame in the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:13 AM
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Women should be held to the same standard. They plump up as soon as they're in a long term relationship. Guess that means they're no longer hiding their inner ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:12 PM
3

Don't forget overpaid corporate CEOs, fast food workers, and men exploiting the wage gap, as those are the only other career paths basement dwelling Soviet bread line worshippers are aware of.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:51 PM
3

It's good you know what you want. Just because you are introverted doesn't mean you can't be more confident. You can succeed in your career one way or another whether she helps you or not. You just have to work your ass off to make your own contacts. Real independence is not "relying on nobody", it's making it so you never rely on just one person or organization.
/r/MGTOW208/05/20 05:38 PM
1

The only week that's interesting and worth a read.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:33 PM
2

Nerdy flat chested girls that hit puberty and transform into Staceys who suddenly get chased around by Chad's must feel the same way. By your logic anybody who is desired is desired for only superficial reasons. No possibility it's a combination of reasons that could include depth. Might it be you're projecting a little? Extreme cases aside. There are average dudes with steady jobs getting foreign wives every day. My college friend, a very intelligent, upper middle class guy with an analyst sala…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:27 PM
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Anyone who bashes murica is a commie whose wife is whoring herself out just across the border to feed her kids because he can't because murica took his job. At least murica has a marketplace!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:55 PM
1

Be zen. Be desireless and excellent. There's no winning in the long run with women. Just enjoy the ride while she's helping you out, enjoy the professional help while it's there, enjoy the romance if your body tells you it's right, and when it vanishes like a fart in the wind if she changes her mind about you (young + hot women are constantly sizing you up and extremely fickle, so this is highly likely at some point) don't blame her. Just thank her and move on. Youre male, intelligent, and hard …
/r/MGTOW208/05/20 04:36 PM
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She's into you bro. If you're into her make a move. Just cause you're MGTOW doesn't mean you can't date. If you're not, hey, at least she's a good friend and she's helping you out. Not all women are monsters. Sure they have female nature but some are raised right. OP you're doing what hot desired women do all the time, bragplain (brag+complain). "Why do guys keep hitting on me.... Why do they buy me things for no reason..."
/r/MGTOW208/05/20 04:27 PM
2

Ohhh, that's by age, not by year. I thought it was a timeline. Soooo... The suffrage movement... No good?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 02:51 PM
1

My God! You're right, it looks like Da Vinci sculpted it out of shit, then it sat in 100 degree heat to bubble and fester.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:41 AM
3

A lot of animosity for a race you supposedly don't even consider competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:32 AM
1

Mister Rogers is awesome. If he were here he would get to the bottom of what you're so angry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:30 AM
1

I don't get it. White men start halfway up the totem pole. If a cop shows up, who gets arrested, from most likely to least likely? Black men, white men, then women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:27 AM
3

Wait, both males and females cost more than they produce?! Sorry Transgenders, looks like it's up to you now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:22 AM
2

MGTOW Translation: American female 5's, 6's and 7's trying to land male 8's, 9's, and 10's for money are shaming American male 5's, 6's, and 7's for getting tired of being turned down by them and dating female 8's, 9's and 10's who are trying to land them for money and citizenship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:16 AM
3

Of course, I'm very nice, I just don't devote myself to their 20 something problems and drama. They're happy so long as you're an escape from real life for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:02 AM
1

I've reached an age when I care about many things more than sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 03:50 AM
3

On what basis? Consent is consent whether someone is 18 or 81. Helps that I still look 26.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 02:46 AM
1

Nonsequitor. She asks I pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 02:28 AM
1

https://youtu.be/q7upGsFhoHY This is my PPD wild draw four card.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 02:13 AM
1

Now I know how Tyler Durden felt.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 02:11 AM
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Tyrone got racially profiled during a routine traffic stop this winter, so he's eating Christmas turkey with a spork off a plastic tray. Plus what's wrong with the guy in plaid? Commitment issues! Hello!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 02:07 AM
3

It's all fair in the sexual market. Doesn't matter if some jealous women think it's gross. It's life balancing itself out. Staceys were banging 30 year olds for fancy dinners when I was in college, now I get to bang Mindy's if I pay for their lib studies textbooks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 02:01 AM
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There's nothing hotter to a woman than a man with options. Who needs pheromones, boys? Just spray a little V on you before you hit the club.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:55 AM
1

Destroys ability to pair bond, especially in women. Victim is future husband when she leaves his ass and weaponizes the children for money via female privilege... err I mean withholds custody via family court. Heh, that was a weird autocorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:47 AM
0

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4085758/Experts-reveal-sexual-partners-ve-determine-likely-DIVORCE.html
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:46 AM
1

Neither, she's a slut and she will end up divorced. Statistically speaking only of course. She's actually a nice lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:44 AM
1

I was wondering why all the women I dated only had two exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:42 AM
1

"some of it are guys I met at the church" Any tips on how to spot slutty church ladies?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:39 AM
1

This guy is 60
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:34 AM
1

Maybe I just think Latinos outside a Home Depot are handsome
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:32 AM
2

Have them stuffed and pull them out to play with when you're feeling sentimental.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:11 AM
1

Friendly reminder: God's a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:09 AM
1

Is it racist or enlightened that I assumed you were talking about Latino men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:08 AM
1

"women don't like handling another person's emotional baggage" Then why is that all they do with and to all their friends? Why is this what they do with and to their friendzoned guys? And why is this considered nurturing, a historically female trait?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 08:41 PM
1

https://youtu.be/q7upGsFhoHY
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 12:19 AM
0

They should. Ever been in a relationship with a poor woman? Way less fun. You're always supplying the beer. Skee skee skee Edit: reference to Dave Chapelle imagining he gets Oprah pregnant and is thus invincible. Just realizing this dates me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 12:07 AM
2

Uh... Money.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 12:01 AM
3

Then there's Q. As in lgbtQ. That one has no meaning. Figure it out you dumbfuck! Pole or hole... Or pole and hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 12:00 AM
2

What no Bernie T shirt?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 11:57 PM
1

I personally don't care if a woman sleeps around as long as they're honest and they don't try to girlfriend game me. I don't care if they're Alpha widows, just as long as they don't blame me for their disappointment. I will direct them to a shrink. And I don't care if they're hypergamous, just as long as they admit it and accept that I won't marry them because I like my balls out of the vice TVYM.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:34 PM
2

Is this an ad for a Rem Body Pillow? Can I order the anatomically correct model?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:17 PM
4

Inflexibility is the correct response to female shit tests. If she leaves she was gonna leave anyway. But she rarely does. She just gets worked up. Strong emotions are always a positive for female bonding. Unless she's holding a knife.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 05:59 PM
3

Right. The beer doesn't ask silly questions. The beer understands.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 05:52 PM
0

Freckled wonder here. The dollar store sells SPF 30, quit your whingeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 05:50 PM
1

Strip down and oil up first, the police will never catch you!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 05:48 PM
1

Fondling the melons in the produce aisle not permitted!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 05:47 PM
5

Coronagina
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 05:46 PM
1

Don't all people, men and women, take on roles for selfish reasons? My gf's daughter LOVES playing COD, and even beats me almost half the time. Can't fake legitimately loving video games if you're stomping out an old gamer dude. I'll agree that if you're a YouTube personality you get 10x the views if you have tits. But that's men's fault, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 05:01 PM
1

We all play our roles, ask Shakespeare.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 04:33 PM
1

So if it helps him, that's just a byproduct of you seeking a more successful/stable/fulfilling relationship for your own sake?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 04:23 PM
1

Redpillers and redpilled are the same thing. It's just what you choose to do with the information. Ask Neo.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 04:20 PM
1

What are terpers? Like posers?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 04:08 PM
4

So is it a "say whatever it takes" thing or she actually believes and admits to female nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 04:07 PM
1

How does it help you in that relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 04:04 PM
1

Depends on what you mean by sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 04:04 PM
3

So classic NAWALT claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:56 PM
2

Just a piece or the whole case? Which part? The latch? The wood? The hinges?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:35 PM
4

I thought it was to recruit new MGTOWs. Poor purple bastards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:32 PM
3

Everyone's on Reddit during the lockdown
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:58 AM
3

No need for child support in 50-50 custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:55 AM
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Those two guys running from her are holding hands. I don't think her weight is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:40 AM
1

Fuck American women. Dangle a green card and instantly you're a foot taller. And their mothers taught them how to actually cook!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:34 AM
2

This guy truths.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:32 AM
2

We'll all be paying their college student loan debt through taxes soon too since they're earning their n'th degree and dudes are dropping out. We'll also be paying back the trillions in federal debt for the new round of corporate handouts. And we'll be paying chicks retirement too don't forget because why would they save?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:23 AM
3

I disagree that it is even possible to leave certain communities or start your own. We are a citizen of a country and the laws of that country are foisted upon us. We can't start our own country and create antithetical laws without the penalties of loss of life and liberty by our host country. If I disagree with certain anti male laws (Title IX, Lily Ledbetter, Family Law, etc) the only option is self exile (mgtow) which inherently has no bargaining power and will therefore always lose a war.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:43 PM
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Nature has its own laws. Homeostasis in nature is reached by balance. Going extreme on anything leads to peril. Eating only sugar and carbs leads to catastrophic illness but we don't outlaw or forbid or even shame that, so here we are in an obesity crisis in the U.S. Even a totally free society can only survive if intense social shaming and outcasting is employed. The founding fathers proclaimed that morality was a necessary element in maintaining a just and free society: https://www.google.com/…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:29 PM
2

Yes, Title IX owns male students. Poor bastards. Glad I only do courses online. I can still mix my girlfriend drinks, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:08 PM
1

But if consent is always a legal requirement, and someone would withdraw their consent if their partner had been honest, and it is possible to withdraw your consent after the fact if your consent was invalid to begin with (i.e. after you sober up) then rape after the fact is a crime in some circumstances, so defrauding a partner could be interpreted as rape, and people are embroiled in litigation over this regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:58 PM
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There are boundaries to your argument. The black market will bear pedophilia and sex trafficking, that doesn't make it moral or legal. We owe legally non consenting people our protection and intervention. That alone could be a foothold for more counter arguments. Like criminal deceit: if someone has HIV but doesn't tell their partner, that's a federal offense as serious as attempted murder. If everyone agrees that consent and forthright honesty are necessary, then deceiving your partner about yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:48 PM
1

Define love. Arranged marriages are some of the most enduring. Do they necessarily have high physical attraction (lust)? No. But commitment is a love type behavior, as is loyalty, and admiration (appreciation). I can't imagine one would stay with someone for no reason other than loneliness if they didn't at least admire the other person for their qualities. Call it a mustard seed from which love can grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:55 AM
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I agree, great debate! And I agree a hundred percent that it is a mother's gap. The most resource consuming and (non-financially) rewarding job in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:33 AM
2

You're forgetting second marriages. And the fact that millennials (those currently in the marriage batters box) are waiting loooonger to get married, after their careers and finances are well established. Plus hypergamy: https://ifstudies.org/blog/better-educated-women-still-prefer-higher-earning-husbands And the fact that what is at risk is his future earning when it comes to divorce. An educated woman would be including that in the mental calculation, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:20 AM
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That's a meaningless statistic that is skewed toward the pardon the pun, mean. It does not reconcile with this: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/married-men-earn-more-than-single-or-married-women-and-single-men-2018-09-19 Married men earn drastically more than married women on average. You overlook how much more money it takes the average man to attract the average wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:08 AM
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Ok these are all exceptional people (1 percenters). They are all anomalies by definition. The highest of high earners have so much money they can absorb divorce settlement after divorce settlement and keep on rolling (I.e. Jeff Bezos, Donald J., Etc.). Middle class earners most certainly cannot without becoming slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:56 AM
1

That's because they're stupid, or poor enough to be immune.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:39 AM
2

Catholics are the same. And they don't recognize divorce. They still believe in until death do us part.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:37 AM
2

Ive been red pill knowledge aware for 30+ years thanks to some dysfunctional dynamics with my sister and mother, but even still I didn't realize how much getting positive female attention ruled my life and drove my behavior until the last year or two. I was quite literally not in the driver's seat. While I think young mgtows are responsible for their behavior, their powerful biological urges to mate backed my millions of years of evolution are in direct conflict with their newfound knowledge abo…
/r/MGTOW204/05/20 08:15 PM
1

Hair is not really necessary for "game" if you have other physical attributes like height and/or muscular build, but without any of the three, plus glasses for near sightedness, I was getting ignored or rejected by almost all the women I found physically attractive and approached, until I was wracked with insecurity. I had good enough social skills to get numbers, spin plates, date, and make out with the women but they wouldn't let me seal the deal. Maybe they didn't deem me physically worthy an…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 03:22 PM
5

Muscle goes a loooooong way if you're short. I'm short and lean, worked out like crazy but always scrawny like a kid. High protein diet changed my entire physique. Shirts kept getting smaller and smaller, ladies i dated kept getting hotter and hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 01:34 AM
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You can still pull in person if you're short masculine and good-looking. (personality is in the forefront) just don't expect to slay the ladies on tinder. Ladies filter for 6 ft hookups they won't even see u. Whatever is between alpha-beta. Blalpha?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 01:20 AM
2

Absolutely living off grid completely is a good thing to prep for. Like all other countries spiraling toward plutocratic socialism and insolvency, people will just stop taking paying taxes seriously, deal in cash and barter in a decentralized way, driving tax rates and money printing ever higher to compensate, until no one respects their government except when it's tyrannical and violent. The difference is in the U.S. there are more guns than citizens, and a then abjectly defunded military would…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 05:20 PM
2

That's true. We get kicked down, what, a few hundred billion of the ten trillion, just a few percent of the total new debt. Meanwhile, back at the grocery store, everything is more expensive because of the money printing, right when like 15-20 percent of us are out of work and can barely afford things to begin with. We have a voluntary tax system. If everybody just stopped paying for a year, goodbye government.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 04:47 PM
2

It reminds me of "The Story of your Enslavement" by Stefan Molyneux. Tax rates in a western society indicate the degree to which we are slaves. X percent = X percent enslaved (property appropriated against our will at the threat of a gun and imprisonment. It is also true that the Lions share of tax money ends up in the hands of women through entitlement payments, so, maybe where before we married women now we are slaves to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 04:34 PM
2

I can say dating for me in my 20's was a struggle, because of natural shyness, being short, having a receding hairline. I still had girlfriends, 6's and 6.5's. By my early 30's I was way more confident, self assured, still in the same decent job, dating more frequently, still just 6's and 7's. Then I got hair transplants, started finding it way easier to date 6's 7's and 8's. My confidence grew even more, although I didn't judge the women to be LTR material. Now in my early 40's, I've stayed hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 03:44 PM
1

So all of western society is enslaved?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 03:34 PM
6

Agree. See pictures of women 80+ years ago when cars were luxury items so they had to walk to grocery stores where healthy food was just called food. And Starbucks wasn't around so they weren't padding their thighs with coffee flavored milkshakes every day. Oh yeah and they took care of themselves because if their husbands left them they were out of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 05:51 AM
2

Interesting point. Never understood why the bottom 80 percent of men so freely give up their power to women in the first place. I thought women wanted strong men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 05:38 AM
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They often do, it's just not required to make a living... Since, you know, assets....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 05:33 AM
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This. I've seen this over and over. It renews my faith in love and statistics that there's someone out there for everyone (unless you're REALLY ugly on the inside) who can make you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 05:27 AM
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People are animals. When it comes to animal attraction personality need not apply. Youth, beauty, strength and health are all that anyone's genitals care about. Personality is a genetic manifestation of society and tribal survival. Good personality just indicates useful to others around you. Totally irrelevant to multiplying genes. Only useful to the survival of those genes after they multiply. Can always make more genes to replace. Purpose of original post: venting frustration with disappointme…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 02:40 AM
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Until you actually meet them and they are not what you expected (i.e. most episodes of Catfish). Then that "in love" feeling instantly vanishes. Which confirms the fact that we project beauty on good personality (without seeing someone), and good personality on beauty (without getting to know someone). So yeah. People are superficial AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 02:34 AM
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Couple things, TRP is a general term, and PUA is much more specific to learning how to talk to women, get their info, build interest, and achieve physical intimacy. It's a culture of education for men who want to work in this one area of their lives because they feel they are lacking a "natural" ability. Plate spinning originally was a more innocent concept of just talking to multiple women, or getting multiple women's interest since it is likely that when interacting with people several will fl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:26 AM
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PUA advice: how better to serve the local THOTs. I'd rather serve myself and the people I actually care about. All the things mentioned are great advice for that though too, so kudos.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:06 AM
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No one has any duty in an "open market". In an open market if what 80 percent of men are offering no longer has value to women (substance and security rather than movie star good looks and mind games) or what women are selling is a liability (student loans on lib art degrees, credit card habits, laziness, entitlement, alimony, child support, the wall...) then there's no point in chasing or protecting them. Bye Felicia. It's not that "becoming above average" is hard, it's impossible, because in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:56 AM
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Nice Troll post. Entertaining though. And truth that dating is an open market. What percentage are the "bottom tier" men according to women? Physically below average? According to online dating surveys, that's the bottom 80%. To be fair, men think 50% of women are below average, so we actually have a problem with superficiality and unrealistic expectations. Which means a happiness and fulfillment problem for nearly everyone. The quote "most men lead lives of quiet desperation" was from an era lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 02:45 AM
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I know what you mean. I don't believe it's financially wise to even buy a house unless you could turn around and rent it out at a moment's notice and at least break even on your expenses. You'd be leaving yourself vulnerable if your income went down or stopped for some reason or you needed to move. This is a good test to see if housing is currently overpriced. If mortgage+insurance+property tax on a house you're considering buying is more than rent on comparable houses, keep saving and wait unti…
/r/MGTOW228/04/20 01:52 AM
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If you pull money out, Uncle Sam will slap you with not only the tax you would've paid on your income had you not contributed it to the savings, but also a 10 percent penalty if you're under the current minimum retirement age. If you want to bypass that penalty you can move parts of your contributions each year to a Roth IRA, pay the tax only (no penalty), and withdraw parts after 5 years. It's called Roth Laddering, something people in early retirement use. See the r/FIRE sub for more info than…
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 04:23 PM
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"if nothing else, the men of the past were pretty shit to women" What era are we talking about? When men would court women for their hand in marriage? They would openly compete for the chance to support her financially for life? So she could stay at home where it was safe and watch her beautiful babies grow and tell him all about it when he got home, so he could live his family vicariously through her? And she didn't have to work in the brutal physical industries where men lost limbs with no set…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 04:01 PM
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I'm not saying most don't start with a mortgage, but it's not your friend you want to keep around for 30 years either. A sensibly priced home you could pay off in 7-10 years with some aggressive overpaying, getting roommates, side hustles, airbnb out a room, etc. It's been a huge sacrifice but that's a goal I'm working on.
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 05:58 AM
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I'm not discounting your experience, those are your standards. My experience is if it wasn't physical or building steadily toward it right away it never did, no relationship connection seemed to form. Not because I'm only after sex, that was never me, but I naturally developed the rule: if no kiss by second date/meet up, no physical intimacy would form ever so walk.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:37 AM
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This! And watch the alpha dudes in your life really closely to see what they do and how they do it. And emulate often. If you don't have role models go get them, even if you're an adult. They may take you under their wing. Become friends with them and let them razz you. You will stop doing some beta habits and start razzing back eventually. Take up some masculine activities. Work on finding humor in everything (except at your own expense). humor and entertainment get women's attention. And don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:27 AM
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By then it won't be love, it'll be a lay, if he's truly a realist. And by then he'll be going for the women that are the age he is now, if he's a realist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:14 AM
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That's because sexual desire is not logical. Men often understand this but fail to really get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:12 AM
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If it's only Red Pill techniques getting you laid. A lot of dudes have a lot of trad things going for them (career, car, friends, health, house, good upbringing, values) but are unconfident because of some physical imperfection and regular rejection. It's not easier to get a relationship than to get sex because there is no relationship without sex. What you're talking about is girlfriend gaming, another more deceptive version of friend zoning. Girls like these will hop to your homie in a second …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:03 AM
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That's a good point. This was voluntary info. Women love to share. Thus social media is a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:53 AM
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Yep to this, if it's uninsurable and you're worried about being sued you are out of luck for an umbrella insurance policy (one way to protect against liability and medical claims in the other areas of your life). Things you don't think about until you're an old guy with something squirreled away to lose.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 11:49 PM
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Just include the words Garage or Man Cave or Outdoorsman, or Workshop or Beard or....
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 11:46 PM
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You've got all the untility options! Brilliant preppers paradise as well as a beautiful spot to hang your hat.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 11:43 PM
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Being a debt free homeowner is even better. Find a way! Debt is slavery. It limits your options to simply not work if your job becomes oppressive or you want to do something else for you rather than for the $$$.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 11:40 PM
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I love that line: "...the rest of my life depended on how I handled ... X ..." A bit hyperbolic but an essential truth. It's not what happens to us, but how we handle it. No matter what you decide to do, make sure you're still the one deciding what's best for you and handling it. You can quit med school path if it's best for you, but Don't Give Up. Ever. The only way out of hell is straight through it.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 05:50 PM
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I think two of your opinions are at odds: that a woman can give you kids and it's no big deal if she cheats. Sounds like a recipe for the cuck life. Raising kids you think are yours but aren't is about the worst thing that could happen.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 03:12 PM
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AND that you're attracted to? Indefinitely? Lol... Thewall thewall thewallllll....
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 03:07 PM
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MGTOW is an educational journey. It's not meant to restrict what you do. It's there to help you understand the true nature of women, male-female dynamics and the social constructions that aren't in the best interest of men. Self isolation is not a requirement. There is advice to avoid cohabitation and marriage but that is not an issue at your age. Your hormones and biology are compelling you to ingratiate yourself with women in order to procreate. Be aware that those impulses do not serve you, t…
/r/MGTOW222/04/20 05:08 PM
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I agree with you advertising is not the problem. I also agree giant corporations don't care about the individual in general, they are focused on the bottom line. The corporation is created to preserve itself, to live forever. This is why it is so powerful. It doesn't die with it's owners. It continues to adapt and evolve to profit it's current owners. It was never intended to handle the welfare of anyone else. This is why the acceleration of corporate political influence is so insidious. You're …
/r/MGTOW220/04/20 07:53 PM
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"Companies do not want to rule you" Then why are they writing all the new legislation that favors them and lobby (legally bribe through insider stock information and campaign-finance-law bypassing PACs) Congress to pass it? For large companies the best return on their investment is that spent on political influence. "We've been needing a collapse/reset for years" I used to believe this. Until I realized after each collapse more wealth moves into the hands of large corporations. Percentage of ind…
/r/MGTOW220/04/20 05:39 PM
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I guess I'm not understanding how you have concluded a particular race is behind global agendas.
/r/MGTOW220/04/20 05:17 PM
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There is no "good man". That is letting someone other than you give you a title. It is a control word. Approval language, the other side of the shaming language coin, includes "Nice guy", "Good dog", and "Obedient slave" .... "Good" simply implies useful or beneficial to the speaker. Going your own way is about defining yourself rather than letting someone else define you.
/r/MGTOW220/04/20 01:13 AM
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Is it exploiting the weakness of others or simply following ancient wisdom codified in culture and religious texts because it works? Prudence is not exploitation. I personally have learned a lot by reading Proverbs. Not that holding Judeo-Christian values is a requirement to be just or ethical, but it tends to curb exploitative behavior.
/r/MGTOW220/04/20 01:01 AM
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One old book has a woman as the teacher... And Huck Finn jumps out the school window! I like the moral of that story...
/r/MGTOW219/04/20 04:29 PM
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It's ok to take some time to grieve the loss of a friendship, even if it was a toxic one. Good time to be introspective. Why you felt you needed that relationship. Also a good time to double down on working on yourself. MGTOW is about being 100 percent accountable for your actions and their outcomes, and not letting others control you, nor blaming others for your problems. You can always do better! Go get you new friends!
/r/MGTOW218/04/20 07:00 PM
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True. My issue with website based sugar relationships is it's viewed as prostitution in the west by law enforcement and the men risk sting arrests and criminal charges. Juice worth the squeeze? For some dudes. Another country means fiancee visa if u want them to come to you, which is false promises, which is unethical. Sex tourism (go to them) may be safer and more straightforward, depending on a number of political factors in those countries. But what a hassle for some nookie, unless you wanted…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:15 PM
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Wow that's specific... Are you a plastic surgeon?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 07:06 AM
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Because guys approach based on looks, mostly physical flaws: Grossly overweight, unclean, smelly, wearing unflattering clothing (accentuates flaws and hides figure), fat accumulating unevenly (muffin top, cankles, neck fat, pancake ass, beer belly, flat chest), unkempt frizzy hair, asymmetrical, excessively masculine.... Because guys commit long term based on character and personality: boring/dull, narcissistic, not loyal, not nurturing, not willing to reciprocate, overly aggressive, dysfunction…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:56 AM
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Many do have great need though. It won't be long before you're sending cash and goods to her family overseas and then they start living with you. If you like big families that arent yours go for it!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 09:44 PM
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Equality is not a biological drive. Everybody wants someone better than them. It's called dating up. If it's a rare self hating woman who wants to date down, can I have her number plz? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 09:41 PM
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When it comes to women, HVM vs HSM doesn't matter, the thing that matters most is SMV (sexual market value).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 09:34 PM
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True, but the return on the "compensating cash" doesn't make up for the success with women that physical attractiveness/alpha traits provide. Unless you're top 20 percent, most women will "let" you buy them dinner but lean out when you make your move. Then they'll let a hot unemployed dude ball them behind the dumpster outside a club without catching his name. I'm exaggerating but you get the point. Most betas become exhausted and give up to MGTOW or they give up to get married thinking the work…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 09:26 PM
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Alpha = "Fun" (substituted word), Beta = Bucks
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 09:12 PM
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This is a necessary first step toward gender equality in family court: since men's suffering in this area of law is invisible, it will only change once it starts affecting women. This will happen more since women are the majority attending and graduating college now, and receiving preferential hiring in high income professions like STEM. The natural progression is for them to begin out-earning us. The irony is the institution of marriage will largely end before the laws change because of hyperga…
/r/MGTOW213/04/20 05:30 PM
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Working only when I want to on what I want to, good sandwiches, temperate weather, a pleasant neighborhood to walk and bike around in, the freedom and resources to travel when and where I want.
/r/MGTOW213/04/20 05:23 PM
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BTW don't commit to a girl who you started a relationship with in a threesome, lol
/r/MGTOW209/04/20 06:25 AM
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Sounds like you're coming to your senses after being away from her. Keep away from her longer and the truth will start hitting you even more. Stay away for months and the fog will clear from your brain! That's how dysfunctional relationships work, they cloud your judgment, perception, and sense of self, and it doesn't recover immediately. Keep undoing the damage!
/r/MGTOW209/04/20 06:23 AM
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Valuing daughters less than sons combined with the one child policy led to the dearth of marriageble women, so now they're bidding them up. Hypergamy leads to red pill leads to Supergamy/Megagamy. Nature wins again boys. https://share.america.gov/dire-effects-of-chinas-woman-shortage/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:20 PM
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You're not financially destroyed. You didn't marry her or have a kid with her. You didn't go through the wealth wringer of family court or be over a barrel with lawyer fees, alimony, child support. Sure it cost you to know her, but you still get away with a clean break. Consider it money well spent on a life lesson that could save you hundreds of thousands down the road. Read your own post, count up all your mistakes, and vow to stop doing them in the future.
/r/MGTOW208/04/20 04:25 PM
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Or wait until after 10pm to hit her up. Booty call hours
/r/MGTOW208/04/20 04:18 PM
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I can't argue with that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 04:17 PM
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As someone who's worked in tax for years, I have found no way to avoid more than a token amount of tax if you are in the middle class (the majority of us).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:21 PM
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You can feel bad for some of them, for good reason, but others of us have always understood the red pill on some level but never had words for it until stumbling upon it online. To us it's a useful tool to tame our hormonal impulses that take us down dangerous (financial/freedom wise) roads with the opposite sex. And also see through people's games. Knowledge is power. It makes sense that it would be viewed as threatening to some who stand to lose by being seen right through as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:17 PM
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Lol yes if you're in a western country and earn above subsistence wage
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 04:28 AM
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Good glad it was useful. Also remember your technique is important when lifting. ie shoulders back, back muscles holding everything together, keep your upper arms and chest at 90 degrees between each pushup/bench press rather than over extending, etc
/r/MGTOW206/04/20 06:50 PM
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For starters ice it and/or use NSAIDs if u can (some ppl prefer not to bc of side effects). Stop pushups and other heavy weight exercises until it feels better. Afterward you would benefit from a physical therapist to strengthen surrounding muscles so it doesn't happen again. If you can't, at least look up shoulder physical therapy exercises and back off on ur exercises when they cause pain (listen to your body). I'm not a medical professional, just gone thru what ur going thru and these recomme…
/r/MGTOW206/04/20 05:08 PM
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Sounds like THOT babble. Put something in her mouth.
/r/MGTOW202/04/20 04:25 PM
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You could come off as an obvious fraud. As other posters have said, dig deep into the PUA material.
/r/MGTOW202/04/20 04:24 AM
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Curious, what other kinds of companionship can you pay for other than, like, a masseuse or a stripper?
/r/MGTOW202/04/20 04:21 AM
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Go where you would go anyway and do what you want to do anyway even if you weren't on a date. That way if the date doesn't go as you hoped, you still get enjoyment and satisfaction from the outing. Don't invite someone out to a place just to please her. If she demands a particular place she's using you for a free meal. Kick her to the curb. Don't think of a girl as "willing" to date you, that sounds like she's doing you a favor. Be the guy who's doing her a favor by inviting her out. Develop a p…
/r/MGTOW202/04/20 04:04 AM
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I empathize with you if your government has banned leisure activities at the beach or along hiking trails. That's going way overboard. So far mine hasn't. Everybody's out walking these days. I agree that many gov officials are using this as a power grab: "Never let a crisis go to waste" -- Rahm Emanuel (that about sums it up).
/r/MGTOW201/04/20 09:58 PM
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Build a bar in your home. Stream literally any movie ever made on your TV. Order everything your mall has and more from just a handful of websites and have it delivered to your door quickly and efficiently. And order takeout or delivery from your favorite restaurant the same way. You are only constrained by your own mind.
/r/MGTOW201/04/20 02:16 PM
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How prevalent? Extremely. It's 3 categories though: Alpha fux, beta bux, and the untouchable gross yuck get away from me incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 03:57 AM
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You don't know the PUA community
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 06:58 AM
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Damn that's hypergamous. Or she could just, you know, consider a man's overall virtues. I.e. personality, morals, treatment of others, talents, etc. In addition to looks and income.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 06:56 AM
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Aaaahahaha! This ^
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 06:25 AM
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My female friends (the slutty, younger 20's ones) offered great insight. They would tell me you're LTR material, you're not the type I like to have casual sex with. You have too much going for you. You're too good. I'd date someone like you, but only after I've had all my fun, and I'd make you wait for sex a long time. I was still dating more conservative women at the time, but my thought was why would I want to date someone like that after she's been run through by a ton of losers. It made me e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 03:57 PM
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Some are great people, some arent, most are average, just like any large group. There is legitimate frustration especially among the average, that you don't get laid based on how great a guy you are. You could have great values, earn a solid wage, own your own house, have a good personality, are kind, and if you are under 5'10" and don't have the right look you're home alone every Saturday night or getting ignored completely at the bar. In fact, a lot of guys who get laid regularly are big loser…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 03:25 PM
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This may be true, but it's still a system that can be gamed to level it out. The solution is to send hundreds of targeted/templated messages in some automated way. If 10 respond for every 100, and out of that 10, you get a date from 3, and out of the 3 you get laid by 1, then you're probably still about as successful as frequently as the old fashioned way. I'm not saying it's often for some guys, but theyre probably not getting lays very often the old fashioned way either. It's just another tool…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 03:08 PM
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Obviously there is a huge spectrum between having a drink or two versus being falling down passed out drunk or drugged. Actual consent should be a common sense and moral thing, but the legal system no longer requires women to use common sense, and no longer attributes morality to men. Consent laws like this are a big problem for men because women can regret their decision after taking a sip and having sex and claim rape to save their reputation and self image. Men are assumed to be predators. Co…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 02:53 PM
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This. Life is full of hassles and setbacks and negative people. If you maintain the attitude that you are going to do everything you can with whatever it is you have available to you, no matter how limited in the present, you will eventually win in life. It takes patience and hard work but stay positive and focused on what it is you want out of your life long term. Realizing your dreams is not a 100 meter dash, it is a marathon, so be very patient when you don't see results right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 07:27 AM
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This a just a shaming post. Manosphere guys have to either be ugly or neuro-atypical. I'm sure there are both but there are plenty who are normal, well adjusted, and have simply discovered the truth about male-female dynamics despite the lies that mainstream society has been feeding them and use that truth for their own best interest. I like 80-20 stats though: a recent online dating study shows whereas men consider 50 percent of women below average, women consider 80 percent of men below averag…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 06:56 AM
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I agree with everything except that paid lays are more expensive. It's more prevalent now, the last statistic I heard was 10 percent of college women are using internet sites to sell sex. The increased supply has got to drive down cost. Including the costs of social stigma, risk of legal trouble, threat of harm or robbery to the John, etc. I'm not saying it's a good thing for society, it certainly is not, but it is effectively mainstream, like a paid tinder account.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 06:41 AM
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I find it hard to believe dudes, esp those between 18 and 30 have low libido. Unless their testosterone has gone off a cliff. It's all I could think about in that age range. Same with other guys I knew. The only ones I wasn't sure about were like the bottom 20 percent SMV dudes. The unfortunate lookings. Everyone else was putting in the work and getting at least some female attention back in the late 90's and pre 201X's. Has it flipped that bad youngins?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 06:27 AM
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What about online dating and social media? Why would it be harder for men to get laid on a dating website?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 06:19 AM
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He's probably got some personality, humorous repertoire, a good sized group of friends who invite guests, and by party organizing he is hosting at his house/dorm (aka dropping the skrilla on tons of booze for all the freshwomenz). He's positioned himself intelligently to pick up drunk women who think he's funny. More power to him. He doesn't give a number though, I'm guessing under 10. If this is the case I believe him. Don't forget some women have low standards. This has to be true even on tind…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 06:12 AM
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What is your definition of "truly love"? Can't answer the question until it's been fully asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 07:00 AM
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I never said she was the feminist, it was you who wasn't holding her accountable for her decision to get married to the man she did. You blame marriage in general (young marriage). I questioned that, you gave more info and it turns out the specific problem was who she married, not that she married. It was that she was doing things she didn't want to do (work instead of go to school), which is a boundaries issue. If she couldnt tell her spouse what she actually wanted or he openly didn't care wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 11:42 PM
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You're right I don't know everything. But you used the situation as an example of the flaws in traditionalism in a public forum. You withheld material details and once provided, they contradicted your original conclusion. I just evaluated what you did share.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 11:34 PM
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What you're talking about is first (voting) and second (working) wave feminism. Those are fine, they helped our country evolve toward equality. Third wave is women are never to blame, they're victims and men are victimizers regardless their actions, the wage gap must be real because I have an anecdote, if we can't prove it then it's historical, so we must change laws regardless to give women priority and preference in all things, if a woman accuses a man it is presumed true, etc. Third wave is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 11:11 PM
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You conflate traditionalism with your sister being a pushover and suffering for it. I had to explain it to you. The prescriptions of feminism ultimately are female empowerment without taking accountability for their actions. Have their cake and eat it too. If something goes wrong it's some man's fault, even though she chose him. When men suffer consequences they are told to suck it up. Equality is telling her the same thing. You're feminist and don't even know it. It's okay, just admit it. Stop …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 11:01 PM
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Sounds like you're a feminist (anti traditional, white knighting for an adult who makes her own poor choices like supporting a douche, ad hominem attacks). I like the smooth-brained comment though, that made me laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 06:58 PM
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Ok now that I have more info she is not lazy. But he is definitely not tradcon if she was paying for all of his education.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 06:52 PM
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Your sister sounds lazy. She probably just let him tell her what to do because it was easy and then complain to her family about it after. It doesn't sound like there was any reason for her to sit around at home if there weren't kids to take care of. Doesn't take all work week to clean a 1 bedroom apartment. Once again, not tradcon. She chose not to be in school while he was attending.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 06:46 PM
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Sounds like you're arguing my point. Immature, desperate and impatient people shouldn't marry until they straighten themselves out or they will sabotage their relationship and further the statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 06:41 PM
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That is not a tradcon guy. That's a narcissist, or a skewed feminist perspective of what you assume the relationship was like. Did she have the same attitude as you and nag and complain and not support him? Tradcons view marriage as a team effort, in which they support each other through temporary sacrifice to pull each other up. Whoever earns more is the boat everyone climbs aboard. It's almost always the man (note I say almost). He sacrifices time with family to earn enough for the family. She…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 06:32 PM
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That's probably still better than the intelligent beautiful women I know who instead of "timing out" with their loser boyfriend they get him to knock her up as a consolation prize around 30 and then the guy vanishes, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 06:18 PM
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Is pole technician euphemism for stripper?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 06:13 PM
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I think brain fully developed is his way of saying reaching emotional maturity. It's not so much a science thing as a cultural thing. Our society and school system stunts teens and early 20's. There are exceptions, some are raised better than others and are more healthy and balanced and independent than others of course. Those that are should marry younger if they choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 06:11 PM
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Sadly, it's not ideals that get men to swipe right on land whales.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 08:56 AM
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Unless that student loan debt was for her M.D. and there's bacon on that finely crafted table when I wake up!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 08:46 AM
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Usually you don't even have to research. If she's had a lot of partners and is cray in the head she will out herself. People usually tell you exactly who they are up front, through action or words, to test you and see if you leave. If you're thirsty and don't leave she will KNOW you're beta, because you are. If she's had like a few partners and she's not cray and it's more than you've had and that upsets you and you leave, then she'll know you're beta, because you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 08:37 AM
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This!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 08:29 AM
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And she may get tired of the loud obnoxious guitarist roommate at the 5 star hotel with the drug problem who slept with her best friend and gave everyone syphilis
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 08:27 AM
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Lol, fornication trophies
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 08:23 AM
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That's fine, but is your SMV at their level? If not, you may need to do some serious work on yourself (gym, career, self therapy, fashion, personality) or shoot for the really emotionally messed up ones with Dad issues, who you don't want to commit to anyway, or go to a country where your citizenship gives you a big status boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 08:20 AM
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And also consider that sex isn't a one-sided transaction where there's always a winner and a loser. It can be mutually beneficial. Since it's two consensual people you don't have to "trick" a woman into sleeping with you if she is willing to sleep with you, it doesn't mean she is looking to commit either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 08:10 AM
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You probably missed out on the girls who were into dating and relationships during college with that mindset. It's self limiting drawing conclusions that include absolutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 08:06 AM
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How old are you? Most guys find it easier to talk to women, get dates and have sex by the time they hit their late 20s and throughout their 30s. They have more life experience, resources, and are naturally more confident because of their successes. When it comes to women the resources arent just for being BB, they're for creating a fun and interesting and fulfilling life and as a result developing a fun and interesting personality that will attract women who are happy being along for the ride. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 07:51 AM
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I don't entirely agree... maybe it's a difference in my understanding of the word "won't". She may be attracted to you but hasn't spent enough time with you to trust you yet. Even PUA material confirms this, women are usually averse to sex or guilt ridden about it until they've racked up several hours getting to know you and confirming you're not a creep. That being said, if you're not physical (touching, kissing, talking about sex, building towards it) by the 2nd or third meet up/date then yea …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 07:30 AM
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It's the opposite of generosity. It stems from a lack of trust. They don't believe what they offer will be reciprocated. They believe they are in competition for limited resources. Their experience and environment may confirm this belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 07:15 AM
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Obviously higher quality means fewer sexual partners. But there's so many physically attractive women on that carousel.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 07:11 AM
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