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I think 1 is kind of ridiculous. Women all over the world are still dating and stuff with far less rights. I dont think women are going "Eww that guy is hot, but uhh.... Republicans are making abortion hard to get". That's definitely not part of the formula. I think more men becoming conservative has a greater than 0 impact, but also, IME still doesn't account for the cultural shift. Because if that was the case, liberal guys should be swimming in pussy, and frankly I think they have it even har…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 04:43 PM
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There's definitely a vibe shift. I used to date a lot in my 20s, and getting girls wasn't an issue. A decade or so later, I notice there's far less "interest" from women if that makes sense? Im not a sexy 25 year old anymore, but I'm still in decent shape and the same scale. Something cultural changed where I just notice women are far less interested in flirting and being hit on. Not with just me, which is first hand obvious, but other people as well. I see it a lot less happening in general in …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:33 PM
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It's more about a general social competency thing. Minding your own business, not getting involved in other's affairs, not creating drama, and being able to keep secrets... Is generally just how you should behave. This isn't about respecting the guy over the girl or anything. It's about just not getting involved in dramatic bullshit where you don't belong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:48 PM
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What are you even talking about? You can complain about behavior, without interjecting yourself into a big deal of drama and become a social pariah. What a weird way to look at things. You ever heard the saying "Pick your battles?" Not wanting to pick a stupid, nothing to gain battle, doesn't mean you like it and shouldn't have issues with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:42 PM
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Yes, theirs social competency. It doesn't matter if you like the person personally. It says a lot about who you are and signals to others you like to get involved with people personal matters, and to not trust you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:03 PM
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No... Are you the type of person that just constantly has "drama" every where they go. Most people don't want to bring a bunch of fucking someone else's relationship drama on them, get a terrible reputation, deemed untrustworthy, etc... Don't stick your nose in other people's shit. Redditors love it for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:55 PM
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Again, that's because they don't know what they are doing. Women in other countries all over the world, aren't just genetically superior. I am a digital nomad. There's absolutely a cultural difference. Women and men in most other countries, take fashion and self care very seriously. American women just don't focus too much on long term health and care. They use makeup to cover up their bad lifestyle and lack of long term care, or skill in actually caring for themselves. Hence the over indexing o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:35 PM
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Here's my hot take. As someone who is from LA, and travelled a lot, I realized most unnatractive people aren't so because genetics, but because of lack of attention and skill in being attractive. Many countries that just have self care and image as foundation to culture, people are more attractive. I often think about walking around seeing a pretty woman, thinking, if she was in America she wouldn't be considered hot. Not because she's not attractive, but rather, because she would have never foc…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:52 AM
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Most women PREFER power dynamics. It's a status sign that they are attracted to. It's just unfuckable feminists who complain about it because they view it as an unfair female advantage for attractive women being able to get access to more powerful men. Crabs in a bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:44 AM
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Huh, I'm liberal myself, and she even admitted these "friends" are not attractive. I clarified OP didn't mean generic liberal, but "woke" liberal, which is a different type... And it's true, they tend not to be very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:37 AM
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I think that's the point I'm trying to make. Considering they have little options, they can't really reach too far outside their circle. They are effectively settling with whatever they can in arms reach. My personal experience is similar to OPs. He should have wavered, "liberal" women (I think he means more social justice warrior types), who are attractive, with options, tend to prefer the guys t hey claim they would never date. I know from experience, while I'm liberal myself, I'm closer to an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:11 PM
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I think when people say "liberal" they are thinking "woke". Which are distinct. Most people, especially hot chicks, are liberal. Very few are woke feminists though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:21 PM
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How attractive are these liberal women? Most of these women tend to not have the advantages of being attractive in America, so they settle with what they can get. Kind of like unnatractive dudes who insist they are into fat chicks. It's managing their internal expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:19 PM
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Let’s be real, they’re going to places where they can use the power of the dollar to buy their way into some pussy. I live abroad. But it's a mixed thing First, just the ground truth. Women abroad are differen than American women. They are far far far more attractive on average, and far far far less selective. Just in general, there's not this hyper competitive hypergamy where every chick is trying to get nothing less than prince Charming. Where I'm at, women just genuinely want a guy that they …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:00 AM
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That's not a thing. That's something else going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:50 PM
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Generally, yes there's going to be gender segregation in hobbies. Like all the time. But even then, so what, there's like 3 women there... Chances are they aren't a match. So now you're just doing a hobby thing, which is fine, but it doesn't mean you're going to meet someone. I have about 2 different weekly things I do as a hobby. Hardly any women, those who are there, not a fit, and there's not a chance in hell they'll turn into relationships. It's just one of those weird things where people sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:50 PM
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I don't agree. I don't think life is that simple. I think people like to frame it that way, because they lack empathy and life experience. People create this cartoonish villian in their head, assuming all these guys are just raging, hateful, bitter, weirdos. Which simply isn't true. It's like when people find out most incels are actually left leaning, even though they are convinced incels are all angry Andrew Tate right wingers. It's just people not caring to understand. I can get why a guy, fru…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:39 PM
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Sure, but by year 5 of being single, it can get depressing. But who cares anyways. Let's just keep shitting on them. They are losers after all. If we do it enough, they'll just magically learn how to be an ideal partner and women will love them and they'll be happy :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:52 PM
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Yeah fuck lonely guys. They are so insufferable and annoying. They deserve to be miserable. If they would only just be nice and friendly, they'd be swimming in women. Why haven't they tried that yet? They must be broken losers. Fuck em.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:46 PM
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It's not "bragging" about his dick. He first gets flirty, like people do with many girls, and then sort of subtly conveying the message. I don't know what to tell you. If you've ever been flirty with someone ever, I'm sure you can use your imagination how that's conveyed without outright saying, "Hey I have a big dick, wanna fuck?"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:19 PM
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Oh they definitely do. It's quite ridiculous actually. EX gf's he cheated on, girls just passing through town, etc... And if he is desperate he just goes onto some kink forum, because 90% of the women there are asking for a hung dude as prereq (coincidence I'm sure), so it's shooting fish in a barrel.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:41 PM
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I lived with the guy. I assure you, I saw it first hand. Maybe you're more modest and conservative, but I know what I saw, and I believe what he says. There's no reason for him to lie. Most guys are very aware there's a social double talk going on to protect male egos. So it's not mysterious what's going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:38 PM
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He drops hints as they flirt. He even admits that once he does, it locks it in. It goes from flirty, playing games, to sure thing. He's not humble about it at all. He admits it helps him get laid very easily and women absolutely lie about size not mattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:24 PM
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He subtly drops hints, yes. It's not "everyone" hooks up with him, but enough women are for when he goes out he can find an attractive chick. basically soon as a girl is into him and flirting, he'll somehow subtly bring it up, and once he does, the deal is basically good as sold. I've seen it in action, and he even admits it. Once a girl finds out and she's showing general romantic interest, it almost always escelates to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:18 PM
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I have a dorky, kinda cringe friend, who has a huge dick. It's wild how easy it is for him to get laid by chicks who are just looking for sex. It also shows how much the whole "size doesn't matter" thing is something women say just to be nice. Dude has a new chick every week almost exclusively just for NSA sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:13 AM
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It's such a small number relative to the population, it's not a huge deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:44 AM

Again, that's true about anything. We generally speak in general terms, in regards to the bulk of the bell curve. You pointing out that some guys don't think that way, again, are outliers, and irrelevant. I can also find guys who prefer to fuck obese women, and get comments of them defending it, but I'd never in good faith say guys are into obese women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:19 AM

No one sees the opposite as a monolith... FFS, stop thinking people think this way. They don't. People just speak in general terms. When people say "Women like tall attractive rich guys with big dicks" they don't literally think 100% of women do. They just men generally that's what women prefer. The bulk of women will prefer that, and those who don't are generally outliers. Like no one cares that there's some random girl you know who actually prefers short guys or micro penises.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:37 PM

Not sure which reality you're in, but pretty women have people constantly praising them, laughing at their dumb jokes, getting promotions and jobs outside their competency, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:22 AM
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Dude, being a hot chick is literally living life on cruise control. Much more so than being a hot dude. Like by a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:46 PM
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I think that women are GENUINELY attracted to status and power. Many women just instictively become drawn to men who have their shit together, influential, and with resources. It's kind of like Russian women. I used to think they were all just gold diggers looking to exploit men with money. You go there and it's just LOADED with super models at every corner. I later found out, that they genuinely aren't gold diggers in the exploitative sense, but rather, it's just who they are. It's their cultur…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:08 AM
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There's no way you actually tried https://liberalarts.utexas.edu/news/incels-are-not-particularly-right-wing-or-white-but-they-are-extremely-depressed-anxious-and-lonely-according-to-new-research https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/664e145fae748c43d37940af/140224+SISNET+Incel+Report.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 11:19 PM
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Since forever dude... It's been a big misnomer that they are right leaning because people on the left basically go "Oh I don't like you, therefor you must be right". But you're free to google it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 11:12 PM
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It definitely leans right as a culture. But that said, yeah, it's annoying... Too many people are can't get nuance. It's either all or none. People often get weird when they learn most incels are actually left leaning. It's supposed to be entirely right wingers who they hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:44 PM
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Classic no true scottsman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:47 AM
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It was considered status within the community. You started a family when you were young, and had children. If you didn't, people thought you were a social failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:45 AM
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What happened in 2008? You must be kidding, right? I get it. No one is being "Unfair". It's just that women now choose not to have kids. It's their choice. They prefer X lifestyle over Y. That's totally fine. Nature wants women to have kids in their 20s, and women rather have them in their 40s. But that's just not realistic, so we have less kids. The point is, however, it's not primarily economics driven. It's cultural driven.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:35 PM
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Parents are delaying having children because they are expensive and this also affects how many children they have. NO THEY ARE NOTTTTTT This only applies to the upper class. They've done these studies, meta analysis, over and over... It's not income. It's cultural. Women just don't want kids. They want to spend their 20s without children, then get into their 30s, with a ticking clock about to end. It's seriously that easy. We know this because you can increase someone's income, offer more social…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:31 PM
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Statistically the uppclass has 2.5 kids... It's still considered "weird" or odd to not have kids when in the upper class, where it's more socially acceptable in the lower. They also get married earlier and divorce less. They hold the more "traditional" system. So no, the higher you are the more children you have, but it is true that they have kids later. Unless it's generational wealth, so they are already rich right out the gate, then they have kids sooner than the middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:25 AM
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He's saying because there's a stark difference watching the bodycam footage of women in extreme situations in how they behave vs the men. Further, the jobs are very similar. Yes very different in actual day to day, but very same in terms of character requirements. You're the first person I've ever heard try to act like there's no overlap between the two, which don't have a core similarity. Kind of wild actually. I can only take that as you're actively just trying to find ways separate it to null…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:18 AM
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Again, it doesn't matter... This has been studied to death. When people get more money, living comfortably, they still don't have kids. They just use their money for other things. The only way money starts making a difference is when people start making over 200k But again, Nordic countries controlled for this, a year off, free healthcare, free childcare, high incomes, huge disposable income. Doesn't matter. Still on the decline. Because women just don't want kids. They rather go "Oh nice 2k ext…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:01 AM
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If you realized he was talking about cops, why did you feign you didn't? Such an annoying Reddit thing. They are not very different jobs. There's a reason why cops seek out vets to work with them. They are both security related with weapons.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:59 AM
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The decision is often made by whether they can afford children. No it's not. This is a massive misconception that's been studied to death. Income has no impact at all, except in the upper class, where it's considered a status signal for a woman to "lock down" a rich man and start having kids right away. The reason we don't have children today is because it's lost its status. You aren't expected to have kids, so women - yes women - choose to delay children until sometime later when they are "read…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:47 AM
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He's talking about cops. You know, a security service that has violence. He's saying he understands why men wouldn't want women in combat roles, because they don't do well and their fear just makes it worse for the men to work confidently.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:26 AM
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There's no way you're getting half the likes ending up as matches. Statistically women don't swipe that much on guys. Something like 80% only swipe on the top 10% of men, and consider the 80 percentile as average. Your theory that guys just have to be MORE picky, is only going to make things worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:22 AM
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You're much more attractive than you realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:36 AM
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I never considered myself hot neither, but I was definitely above average. You're right, it's a blend, but generally speaking, if we're using the bell curve, being hot is the single largest driver. When I fuck actually really attractive chicks, the planets align. When a hot dude does it, it's just Tuesday on Tindr
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:16 PM
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Cool, but exceptions don't define the rule. It goes without saying that we're speaking in general terms here. Obviously there's exceptions to everything. This is just common sense. I also have a weird and cringe friend who fucks tons of chicks, like in the hundreds, just because he has a big dick so women couldn't care less about his personality. But I wouldn't use him as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:06 AM
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It's not semantics. Their argument relies on avoiding holding up the common sense baseline principle that people are talking "in general" by pointing out exceptions somehow disproves his point. I actually think OP is wrong, but so is this users argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:02 AM
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So no proof to back up your claim? Thought so. Just making unfounded bullshit claims. Can't even back up your own claim, because YOURE WRONG AND YOU KNOW IT. You didn't even bother presenting your case, logic, reasoning, nothing. Because you're full of shit. So where's the evidence sweety?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 09:06 PM
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But, he made a claim, albeit a ridiculous one, so he either needs to back it up with evidence or admit he's talking out of his arse. I'm sorry but this is just the most insufferable shit. You come to a DISCUSSION forum, and act highly aggressive, demanding he fucking presents it like an academic debate. It's just fucking annoying. I hate Redditors so much. The most insufferable, toxic, childish, people around. This site used to be so much better before this fucking ridiculous toxic attitude took…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 09:01 PM
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Good for you. But people are speaking in general terms. That goes without saying. Most men will say that being able to get an attractive woman to have sex with you, absolutely boosts your self esteem. Considering women are the gate keepers to sex, having an attractive woman give you that opportunity, is often a reflection of the man, and is a huge ego boost. But maybe you're a special snowflake not like other men. But then you aren't relevant, because we're speaking in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:46 PM
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These sort of responses are so frustrating. It's like, you're coming to a space making unreasonable demands. No, no one has done research on this. It's just a given people are discussing and presenting their case based on their own personal framing and logic. IF you demand proof for everything, you wont find it in either way, because it's not studied. It's just such a weird, condescending snarky comment. "Tee hee so NO PROOF!? Gotcha!" Then start belittling him to stfu and listen. The dude is gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:45 PM
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universal objective reality No one does that. If you come to an area around social sciences, it's a given, common sense, truism, that there are no universal truths. Everything is discussed in general terms, even when not explicitly said "in general"... Again, because it's presumed because that's the very nature of discussing such topics. I don't know how you missed this common sense rule, but it's probably made it difficult to understand what people are discussing if you think everyone's talking…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:42 PM

There's also natural selection. Maybe these "norms" exist and continue to exist, because they are more beneficial for survival and reproduction. The issue is, many elements of masculinity are tied and bound to others. There's a saying in my language where you can't only have one side of the toast. Society, women, and everyone... Want productivity, innovation, risk taking, development, security, etc... And if you want that, then men will embrace their masculinity, where they are competitive, resi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 04:06 AM
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You're a pussy and natural selection should have handled you a long time ago if it wasn't for men who created a society that enabled the weak to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:38 AM
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Did I say they deserve it? I don't think I said that. No one deserves abuse. But there's a clear distinction between the two, and I'm not going to empower helplessness and unnecessary victimhood in men. They need to do better and be better. coddling them only sets them up for more failure, which is what likely got them in this place to begin with. Men and women are different. Some people still haven't realized this yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:21 PM
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I don't think we should coddle and enable weak behavior. It's non-conducive to people. If we just enable such behaviors, they remain victims rather than value adders to society. Men don't get forced into those positions the same way women do, so we shouldn't treat them the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:41 AM

No. Healthy women wont confuse this. It's because 40% of people have attachment issues. The healthy, reliable, mentally sound women, aren't even on your radar, because you yourself also has attachment issues. They live in a world you aren't even exposed to. They don't use apps, they are in healthy relationships, etc... So you're left with the remainders who have attachment issues, where techniques like this work. They have their own set of issues, which is why tactics like that work on them, bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:30 AM
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That's fine... Moralize and virtue signal all you want. There's a fundamental difference. If there's any man out there who is literally afraid a woman is going to physically beat him to death, I feel more sad about the fragile man he's grown into above all else. That's just a terrible path riddled with failure to get to that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 10:10 PM
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Because the guy can easily solve the problem, but chooses not to. Women who are physically beat are done so with no recourse, and risk dying. Men who are victims of it, are capable of standing up and defending for themselves, but don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:49 PM
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I'm just explaining why there's a difference. They are fundamentally different types of things... And yes, if men are afraid to speak up because a girl is hitting them, I'd be afraid to speak up too. That's embarrassing. He can easily over power her. Women aren't even violent as men, so the fact that a guy takes physical abuse just gives me hardcore loser vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:48 PM
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Because it's not the same. Men have capacity to do real damage. Like life threatening damage. 99% of men can beat up 99% of women. And when they do they can do severe damage if they are in a rage... Whereas a women, is generally, yeah it can hurt and be annoying, but rarely is a man ever feeling in fear of his life as he's absolutely helpless. A woman being beat on, is literally helpless and she just has to take it. A guy on the other hand CAN defend himself, but instead CHOOSE to take it. That'…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:50 PM
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I generally pay for everything, but if it's expensive I'm definitely paying. Being pretty aint cheap, so I'll let her hold her resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:46 AM
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Dude's who are about "respect" are fucking weird. How do you not spot those kinds of guys a mile away? You need to seriously calibrate your radar because those dudes are always trashy, and constantly getting into shit because they feel "disrespected" over the most mundane shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:44 AM
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Let's hold men accountable for their weakness to lust. What does this even mean? Like go out and have protests? Start a giant social movement? I dont' get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:10 PM
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Yes it's what everyone does. But it's also a very surface level understanding of the process. It's like someone trying to explain the science behind what makes food good and why, and you respond with, "I'll tell you what makes it good. When I like it!"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:37 PM

These sort of questions aren't meant to be direct. There's a whole field of research that asks questions in ways that seem unrelated, but expose deep correlations. For instance, people will do large surveys (I'm just giving a made up example) with all sorts of questions, and find odd correlations in the type of answers people give. For instance, they'll figure out people who prefer to watch television with their feet up, also have some other completely unrelated correlation, like those people al…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:23 PM
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Iunno, it's an intuition thing. However, I'd like to know if the potential mother of my children slept around a lot or not. Does she have self constraint or a hedonist? These are important things to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:19 AM
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No I don't want to hear intimate details, but say, for instance, I'd like to know if I'm dating a hoe so I can move on and not waste my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:49 AM
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Really? That's weird. I absolutely care as should they. Your past says a lot about who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:28 AM
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Iunno about you but I just like to know about people's story, past, and about them in general. If there's some black hole around sex where we can't approach, that's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:21 PM
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Yeah, there we go... You're in an open relationship and that's weird too. No dude, it's extremely normal to want to know your partners past as a way to understand who they are and get to know them. Most people don't look at relationships and just base everything off the moment you saw them and take no account of their history and past at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:37 AM
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The issue doesn't arise from her doing stuff with other men, only to find out she doesn't like it... It's her doing stuff with other men, enthusiastically, enjoying it, but not with you. It makes the guy feel like he's not as good as the other man. Like you'd gladly do dirty stuff with this other guy, because he turned you on so much, you loved it... But with another guy, he's not turning you on the same way the other dude does, so that new guy has to keep it safe and plain. He just doesn't turn…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:24 PM
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Why would you find that weird? I find it weird that you think that's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:22 PM
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Men don't like the chase, but the psychology is real. When something is too easy, we subconciously devalue it. Hence why women who are good at getting men put up a little bit of chase so the guy feels like he "earned it" rather than getting an easy laydown.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:37 AM
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My dad literally got the downpayment for his house with a summer job.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 12:32 PM
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Listen kids, why don't you go in person, and hand in your resume... That's how you get the job!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:58 PM
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If you literally get zero likes, like not even likes from hambeasts or old women... Then you're not even doing the bare minimum. Like anyone can do enough to get some likes from the least desirable women. I get them every now and then, but I literally have no desire for the women who do like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:19 AM
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Yeah of course everyone's different. We're talking in general terms though. GENERALLY that's how it is. Yes, some 1% of women also prefer micro penises too. You kind find exceptions to everything. But generally speaking women don't prefer average if they can choose. They aren't going out of their way and getting excited for it. The overwhelming majority prefer larger with average being "good enough" the same way taco bell is good enough if your hungry. Though, SOME women actually prefer taco bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:18 AM
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Yes average is enough. But is it preference. Taco Bell is enough when I'm hungry, but it's not what a I crave and get excited for. This is what I mean by the wording women choose make it obvious you're hiding your true feelings about it. It's "enough", as in, bare minimum. But you aren't going out of your way for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:04 AM
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Why do you guys insist it's a fetish. It's not a fetish. It's fucking weird you think it is. Just piercing through the bullshit. Stop acting like guys can't discuss this without trying to shame them. It's literally just a thought killing tactic you're using. For instance, I'm pretty sure you'd prefer your partner to be packing, but obviously not huge like a porn star, but bigger than average. I'm sure your FWB connections tend to be larger, right? But then argue size doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:23 AM
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Yeah that's the typical response, you use an extreme to the point that it becomes bad. But that's not the point. I do know hung guys and they all admit that women say they prefer it, and it's why they have frequent return clients. Most of them are banging their ex gfs when they are single. It's like saying, "Hey money doesn't buy happiness... Sometimes there's too much money that everyone around you just wants your money!" Yeah... But... Would you choose to go back to being middle class? Being r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:26 AM
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Dude they happen... People that get literally ZERO likes are rare. Many men do, but they don't match with them, because usually it's a person not even in their feed. For instance, I just got a like today... It was a mid 40s, white trash, crackhead.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:56 AM
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How often do women admit to you they lie about saying size doesn't matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:19 PM
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I think it was something like 70% of women without kids didn't plan on being childless. And I do think those women are concerned once it hits and happens. They just aren't concerned in advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:32 PM
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Most women today seem to be perfectly fine if they end up single and childless This is the major issue... They are fine with it, until they are in that spot. When you're 25 the world is open, the issue is far away, and so on... Then life happens, and suddenly you're 34 and you just haven't found a guy. All the good guys are partnered up and your doctor is talking to you about freezing your eggs, because it's now or never. It hits women like a truck. I know this because I'm in my late 30s, and it…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:38 PM
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Uhhh narcissists ARE confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:23 PM
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That's part of the natural progression. It didn't go from a whole bunch of northerners being super racist, then one day all agreeing they should stop being racist, then went to war. No, affluent society slowly over time became less and less accepting of slavery, and it got even worse when the constitution abolishing of slavery loophole was being used, and eventually it hit a fever pitch as people became less and less okay with slavery to the point they went to war. It just simply didn't go from …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 02:51 PM
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Education, exposure, and lack of "need" of black people in the North to run the economy. The South is still pretty racist in parts, but the parts that are better, are almost entirely to do with people just getting exposure and education to understand things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 08:11 PM
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But that wasn't really a collective decision. That wasn't someone arguing, "Hey guys, we all need to stop being racist. We just need to come together and stop it!" It just happened naturally, through natural cultural changes. Maybe something will happen one day (unlikely), where men stop chasing women. But it's not going to be because some people all came together and made a large group decision to stop doing it. There will be some natural structural change, like super hot AI robots or something…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 06:57 PM
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I can't even begin to tell you how much I hate a solution to anything being, "We just need to collectively have a paradigm shift and start doing things differently". It's literally the dumbest solution to anything. There's never going to be some massive culture shift where everyone collectively decides to act differently to solve a problem. It never happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:32 PM
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I dont' really believe in positive or toxic masculinity. I think they are all interconnected. For instance, society benefits from men's competitive nature and desire to get married to beautiful women. Men's desire for status to find a partner, is what drives him to be productive... To innovate, build, and compete against other men who also share similar goals. But with those character traits will come some traits people find "toxic". I just don't think they can be unbound.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:25 PM

Religious people haven't taken the bible seriously in ages. Again you picking out outlier extremes... The reason there's articles written on that is ENTIRELY because it's exceptional and not normal. That's what makes it interesting enough for people to click. No one is writing articles about perfectly healthy relationships of right wingers. I mean, I'm sure they exist, but they are boring. It's no different than how the right tries to frame things as trans people all over schools doing shit pare…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:09 PM

That's not the same as hating women. YOU interpret it as men trying to oppress and make women servants. But there are valid reasons for things like that, which have nothing to do with hating women... For instance, I'm a moderate progressive, and I hate hate hate the DEI/Wokeshit. Not because I hate minorities, but because it's ridiculous and ultimately divisive. My GF is pro-life, not because she hates women, but because she's a catholic. And I'd also argue I'm anti feminist, not because I hate …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:20 PM

Maybe you just have a misunderstanding of conservative because you're always online and only get exposed to the most outrageous takes. Nick Fuentes is a radical outlier, not the norm. The stuff you see online is usually amplified by the left because it's extreme and furthers their political agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:01 PM

There's that study going around. It found, counter to common belief, men actually aren't "more hateful towards women". In fact, they have positive opinions of women higher than ever before. but WOMEN have higher negative feelings towards men than ever before. Men aren't growing more hateful, women just think they are. I think it was 7% men held negative views, and 30% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:31 AM
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I definitely wouldn't call her a pickme because of that. A pickme is basically just a woman who tries to appeal to men, acting like she's "not like the rest of the girls".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 07:39 AM
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It's DEFINITELY different in other countries... holy shit. The quality of women everywhere else almost, is way higher. In the country I'm in, I'm constantly reminding my friends how blown away how hot every woman is. And they'll still correct me that this country is nothing, because Russia has the actual most beautiful women in the world who will also blow up your dating app. The women out in America over index on sexuality. I think it's capitalism. They know if they are attractive, they will ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 05:29 PM
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I'm sorry but zoomers, you got way too much internet in you, leading you to believe women are all gold diggers. Every single one of my serious relationships the women were putting up with MY shit more than me putting up with theirs. I wasn't showering them in money or doing chores. Men just need to provide stability and security for 90% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 08:31 AM
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Okay..? What's your point. And I'm saying there ARE women out there like that who aren't paid, and it's great sex. Seems like you never actually had any girls really into bro (Just using your logic).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:14 AM
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It's different. Like I said, it's not typical. Most women like doing all the work, but very few fuck like pornstars who think your cock is the center of their universe which they have a crazy addiction for it. It's a whole different level
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 09:26 PM

Yeah, you know what I mean. Either way, I just wish the data reflected regular people. For instance, Redditors are a unique sample of the population I would NEVER take it's collective consesus serious on anything. Dork-ass neckbeards, hall monitors, no social life, etc... Are not a good reflection of normal people. Normal people can't stand Redditors.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 11:44 AM

I wish these stats focused on the mean and bell curve of the population only. For instance, there's a LOT of overweight/gave up on life, people who I just don't think people are considering when they think about the average person, as well as like mega hoes who've banged 100+ men. I'd also like to exclude the gold digging hyper materialistic nevorich miami girl types, that so many guys think is the typical woman (they are not), as well as the asshole guys who act like Andrew Tate. These people a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:08 AM
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Oh so you wont say rape, but you'll say ass? How about... Rape in the ass? Hmmm?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 08:23 AM
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Why are you censoring the word rape? Is it illegal in your country to say words? Will people be triggered by the word rape, but not rxpe? It's so weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 05:46 AM
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Looks are still a minimum barrier for most people though. I don't care how awesome her profile is if she's also not attractive. The issue is women have WAY higher looks standards on dating apps, where men have much lower. Dunno if that can be fixed
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:26 AM
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That was Ok Cupid before Match took it over and destroyed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:25 AM
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I think everyone is just different. I know many women who prefer the end your complaining about. For instance, generally how my relationships are viewed as is basically the battlefield is my territory, where I take full and complete responsibility for, and the home is her kingdom where she sets the rules and has ultimate authority. Like yeah, sure, we both work, but I'm also the one taking the highest risk, and take the economics the most serious. That's sort of my domain that keeps us afloat fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:32 AM
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I've been with 30-40 women before I actually hooked up with a woman who was "good in bed". I was so used to, my entire life, having to be the one who performs, I had no idea what actual good sex was like until her. Tons of enthusiasm, excitement, and genuinely craving me. Ever since then, I realized most women just suck at sex and we've just normalized it. We don't care as much about performance, because few of us actually know what good performance is even like. I imagine it's like the guy's ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:15 PM

Yeah on an individual level it's fine, but on a collective level, natural selection has determined the practice bad for the herd. So sure, the billionaire can have tons of wives and they'll all be doing great, but it also takes women out of the dating market, leaving behind single men, which leads to issues. So natural selection removed that practice because it creates more problems for the herd that offsets the benefits for the individuals benefiting from it. And yeah, I know you can be feared …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 10:26 AM

Well there's individual natural selection, as well as herd. The reason society has basically universally defaulted on things like monogamy over time, is because culturally, it was found to be the best system for the whole. Men having multiple wives may be beneficial for a single man's evolutionary spread, but as a society, it's disruptive and creates conflict, so we've selected that practice out. In regards to class, yeah there are subsystems working within each other. I'm not sure how much vari…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:46 AM

There's probably some overlap, sure. But also, culture is part of natural selection as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:59 AM
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My biology teacher basically argued, "Women love assholes. If they didn't, evolution would have selected them out ages ago."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:21 PM
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People will take the path of least resistance. Women wont approach any more than you wouldn't approach if hot chicks would just hit you up every day. Why bother? If you don't have to deal with the anxiety thing, then let the other person deal with it. Also, I think it's an important mating signal. Women are seeking out competent men, not pussies. It's part of the vetting process for guys to get good enough in life where they signal their status by being able to approach women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:38 AM
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This is why I can't date the type of girls that are ALWAYS in a relationship. It just means that they are constantly branch swinging.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:10 AM
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Huh? I'm just saying, I'd argue MOST of these women who want guys to pay for expensive shit, are just "that type". Not my type, but that's just a standard minimum they will have. They want a rich guy who will pamper them... Not, I want a rich guy to exploit who I'm not interested in. I'm refuting your thesis that it means she's not actually into.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:10 PM
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Some women genuinely just have a minimum standard of a guy being wealthy... More often than not they are the types who prefer not to work and have a luxury lifestyle. Trashy IMO, but also, doesn't mean they aren't into the guy. It's just her minimum standard and wants everything posh and expensive for her social media brags.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:51 AM
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I think that has less to do with class and more to do with age. Younger guys just want to get laid by the hottest women. It's not until they get serious about LTRs that education becomes a higher priority. So if these are dudes who are already generally sexless, yeah I think they just wont care about education in their early 20s or whatever. They just want the hottest girl they fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:41 PM
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It's an analogy. You're looking FAR too into it. Not sure if it's autism or boredom, but you're just inferring way too much beyond what it's trying to convey.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 11:32 AM

No, not 3 years in. I'm sorry... If it takes you 3 years to see someone's "true colors" iunno what to tell you... Natural selection is harsh, but you shoulda figured that out ages ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 01:14 PM
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Fine, I see her as an easy lay... Frankly I don't care what she tells herself, that's how the world sees her, and she is okay with being seen that way by other men. I don't care if she just likes a new dick every weekend from a new guy because she loves it. I don't like girls who enjoy things like that. It's weird. It's sex pest behavior. It's the female version of men who are always gooning spend all their time just trying to fuck sluts. Not my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 09:02 PM
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I get that... I don't want a person that wants me after that. "Hey guys used to see me as an easy lay, and yeah, I had no problem being the easy lay guys would all invite me over to parties for, but I was just curious and wanted to experience it all! Now that all these guys had their way with me and I had my fun, I'm done." I just don't want that in a person. And if women want to set there own standards like that too, that's fine. I used to party and do drugs in the underground Berlin club scene…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:31 PM
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My point is, if there's an event and it turns out some slut is coming over. Guys are usually all for it, encourage it, and glad to buy her a drink. It's the women going, "Eww no, she's a slut. Please don't have her come over". Mostly because the sluts drastically change the dynamics against the non-sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:38 PM
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I have a hard time thinking that my partner "became the woman I love" because a bunch of dudes saw her as easy sex and didn't stick around, while she was totally okay with that. Red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:51 PM
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100% They use feminism to shame men from having preferences they don't like. Pretty much the core of most female social and cultural movements are just to reframe everything in their benefit by doing character attacks and other similar women coded strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 12:08 PM
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Yes women should be more selective. Because when she does finally get with a guy, he feels like the prize, and not like he's picking up leftovers of other men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:42 AM
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Yeah, men socially can't associate or seem accepting of a slut on an emotional level... As he'll be seen as a guy who's willing to date a "slut". It's low value. Men understand these social consequences, and is one of the driving reasons behind why men don't like to date sluts. It's a huge red mark on the guy's reputation to brand himself as the type of guy who will date a chick who's been with everyone. But they don't "hate" them the same way women do. They just make sure they are nice to them …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:48 AM
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Men WANTING women to put out quick is far different than men EXPECT women to put out quick. I WANT a million dollars, but I don't expect my next job to actually do that. I'm realistic and understand that while I want easy sex, women don't do it... At least not quality women. I will try to get laid on the first night... Don't get me wrong. But I also expect it to not happen. And if it does happen, I'm immediately thinking, "Damn if she gave into me that quick, she must be doing that with every ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:40 AM
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Nah men LOVE sluts when they are looking for easy sex. They just don't want to date them or be in relationships with them. What they HATE is when people try to bully and gaslight men into feeling obligated to date them the same as a non-slut... That men aren't allowed to have this standard and expected to ignore that red flag. That's the only time a guy hates sluts. But outside of relationships, dudes love em.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:19 AM
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I'm going to be honest with you... Not only do I think you're wrong (listen I'm not going to do the snowflake thing with "not ALL men"), but I think you have a strong bias from maybe bad experience? As a guy who's been around in his 20s, at least for me growing up, it was self evident that women don't give out easy sex. That was the whole challenge, and why getting laid was so hard. We loved sluts, not because we thought all women were like that, but because they were the outliers that allowed h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 09:13 AM
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I don't think that's the case based off experience. I still think the underlying cause is it makes them feel like sluts are ruining the dating market for them. Women are hyper sensitive of the attention men give to them. It's how they perceive their sexual value, and sluts suck up all the oxygen. I don't think it's because it makes them feel like men presume they'll all become sluts themselves or something... Most men know women aren't sluts by default. You know, the whole, evolutionary hardwiri…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:36 AM
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Iunno, I think it's more like sluts make non-sluts feel like they need to be sluts to compete. Say she's interested in some guy and wants to get to know him, then suddenly some slut comes by and offers easy sex, so the dude she likes is now hooking up with the slut for the easy sex... Which kind of spoils his dating potential. Like as a guy, imagine if you're really into this girl, and then some dude who's super hot with a huge dick starts having sex with her, and she loves it. Then he drops her…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:25 AM
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No one hates sluts more than the men that can’t any. No, it's actually other women. Because sluts ruin the value. Women are in control of access to sex, and sluts just give it out so easily, that it distracts men and is used to get their foot in the door. It's a violation of the social contract and leverage they have. Women hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 06:46 AM
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When talking about social aspects, it's assumed we are talking about generalities. Speaking in absolutes doesn't mean literally absolute, but rather, is just a way of conveying confidence in the argument. (Why do I have to explain this)? When you distill the argument he's effectively saying that casual sex is a reflection of a man's sexual market place value. A guy that can have a lot of casual sex is considered a high demand high value guy. Now, are there many men who are high value not having …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:09 AM
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Yes but he still theoretically can have lots of casual sex. He's still desirable but he just reframes from acting on the sex. The fact that you are relying on outlier exceptions, it doesn't refute the argument at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:42 AM
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Why is this sub obsessed with outlier scenarios when people are obviously speaking in generalities. Yeah, okay dude, you're example is an exception, it doesn't change anything with the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 06:55 PM
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It's definitely far more common in the USA. Yeah, sure there's less in the city, but women are still far more unkempt, overweight, bad skin, innactive, etc. With the exception of like maybe coastal beach towns.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:28 PM
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I mean I'm in a country that's technically overweight by EU standards, but it mostly just applies to old people and people outside the city.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:34 PM
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That's why I moved to Europe. The most average person is like top 20% in the USA. American women just don't care for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:16 PM
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Dude... you have to get real. The amount of men who considers non-virgins "sluts" is insanely low. Abysmally low. When guys say they don't want sluts, they mean chicks who routinely just hook up and bang dudes they barely know. You really need to get it out of your head that all these guys expect pure virgins. That's only coming from like angsty 17 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:35 PM
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"I want a girl with a tight vagina" - See how well that goes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:34 PM
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Yes, you'll discover soon, that all the feminism stuff is mostly online, and women still prefer men. And so if you get your advice from online, you'll end up going down a stupid path, paved by fat online chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 07:02 AM
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Women who don't like cold approaches, will get cold approached but not categorize it as such. As you mentioned, guys with a decent social IQ don't go straight in like it's 1950 to "court m'lady". You give tons of social outs, keep it casual, and friendly. Start it up just with casual conversation as "friends" with "potential". That said, the only times I've directly hit on women and it worked, they have been sluts. The types I sleep with that night. Most women of quality tend to want the first i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:12 AM
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Those things are far less impressive than you think. Courting a man is more around making him feel like a man, having enthusiasm about him, and doing things that show you care like a nuanced gift. As much as dudes will say things like "wow would be nice if she decided where to eat!" ultimately it's not something that men are attracted to or not. If you suddenly start making more decisions and pay for more drinks, the "attraction" needle will hardly move. Instead, remind him how much you sexually…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 01:06 AM
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No one suddenly "changes" 3 years into a relationship... Just because they got married. It's still the same exact person. If they don't do X when dating, they wont do it when married.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 01:02 AM
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Okay unicorn. Meanwhile, for the rest of people, she's just going to bitch to all her friends calling you a selfish lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:41 PM
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I think people are far far more civil and socially aware of what they say IRL, because the context is vastly different. But much of this stuff talked about online, is softly discussed in a reframed way IRL... At least in my experience. That said, the issue with many people online is they do use the extremes as a placeholder for the mean. For instance, so many people online just think women only want a Chad, WILL cheat, and are gold diggers. This is what they consider the "default woman", which i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:10 PM
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Shit dude... I'm not even "dissadvantaged". I'm not bad looking, decent shape, business owner, well travelled, highly connected, and I like to think I'm fun... But opportunities don't just fall out of the ether. It still requires active engagement.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:24 PM

You joke, but women absolutely are FAR better at judging people and getting a read on them. The IRA used women exclusively to relay messages because women were far better at sniffing out a rat
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:52 PM
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In general.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 11:54 PM
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Generally speaking if someone is long term incel, there is a correlative reason for it. They must have some sort of character or lifestyle flaws that make it so women don't want to be with him. It's just a red flag that warns people that something is abnormal socially or personally with the person. We stigmatize it because as a society, we want to put negative marks on those people so they either improve themselves to get out of it, or have others avoid those traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:07 PM
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I kind of hate how people frame any social disapproval of something, being considered a "stigmatization" as if it's a bad thing... "It's just a negative stigma! We need to get past it!" There's a reason social stigmas exist, and often its for good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:25 PM

Yes. And men often do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:03 AM
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I did the whole, "Just do your own thing and it'll happen when you least expect it!" And I was single for four years. Women are ridiculous. Every chick in every group already has multiple men orbiting around them if they are attractive, so it's easy for them to think this is how it works for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:05 PM
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It doesn't matter... We evolved this way. The biological mechanisms are still in place. The same way we should no longer be eating high sugar junk food, we can't help ourselves
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:24 PM
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Women are the prize. Full stop. It's biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:44 PM
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I would have no problem adopting. The issue is the process is insane and expensive. If you aren't wealthy, it's going to take a while to adopt.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:11 PM
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I think it's obvious. Economics are causing women to go back to "Shit, this economy thing sucks and is hard. Hey men, can you go back to doing that thing?"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:42 PM
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I think women care less. I think it is a red flag, but far less of a red flag for women, because it adds towards social proof of datable, but also increases the creep/low commitment factor. But I don't think a high body count has any benefits for women, so it's far worse. For men, it's generally not much of a concern until it gets too high. I think being a virgin for a man is the same in the sense, that men and women are different, and it indicates different scales of issues. For women, I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:23 PM
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No they don't think like me... But they probably generally hold what I said as true, whether they are conscious of it or not, because I'm explaining a well understood and researched human psychological feature. This thinking is inherent in how we process the world, and key part of our social success.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:24 PM
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Oh no, I know outliers exist. They exist all the time. But people just don't often have the energy or time to be taking on all these cases for 1 on 1 evaluations. You'd be bogged down forever looking for that exception. It's best to just write them off and not bother looking for that exception. As I am with all these sort of stereotype strategies. I'm going to categorize you into X category, because that's what's overwhelmingly most likely, however, you can get out of that category, but it's up …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:33 PM
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Social proof is a REAL thing, and it's massively powerful and influential. You can ask ANY guy what it's like hanging out with hot female friends vs not. Nearly every guy will admit that they get way more female attention. Nothing has changed other than the social proof. Maybe you don't see it, but you should google social proof. Humans use it massively for nearly everything. "Hey wow there's a line out the door of this place! We should eat there sometime!" or "Dude this place is always dead, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:29 PM
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Because it's INCREDIBLY useful to use these sort of things as filters, so people don't waste their time. Social proof is powerful, and deeply part of our pschology, because it works. It's useful. If everyone else is passing someone up, no need in wasting your time and resources to just verify what everyone else has already concluded. Sure there can be outliers and excpetions, but generally it's not worth your time. This is also why women are attracted to guys who have attractive female friends. …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:11 PM
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Okay whatever dude... I'm just saying, I've never met a dude who's a 30 year old virgin where I didn't think, "yeah that makes sense." Maybe they exist where they are perfectly healthy, attractive, datable guys but just haven't found the right woman yet. I'm sure they exist. I haven't met one, and nor would I recommend any woman taking a chance on a guy like that. I don't care if there are outliers. Life is too complex already to be digging through the weeds, avoiding land mines, just because so…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:00 PM
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Do I know that's CERTAINLY the case? No, I don't. I just know it's overwhelmingly likely that the reason he's a 30 year old virgin, is because he wants sex and no decent woman is willing to have sex with him. No, that doesn't apply all the time. Stop it with the outliers. In general, it's a very reliable gauge. The same as if you know a girl who used to fuck a new guy every month. Sure, maybe she's fine. But chances are, she's got issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:07 PM
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Oh come on... There's a direct correlation. It's like all sorts of things, it's a sign of underlying issues. If a guy is 30 years old and still hasn't found a woman willing to have sex with him, there's an underlying issue. Women SHOULD judge men for this the same way men judge high body counts. It's a symptom of a larger problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 10:42 AM
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Okay well try using that line of logic on women... Sorry I don't want to invest hours a day just for a marginal 5% increase in first responses. If you think it's a requirement for men to send dozens of custom messages just for a single response, as acceptable use of your time, I don't know what to tell you. How about this. Why don't women start reaching out and having conversations with men. I mean, showing interest in a potential mate shouldn't be considered too much work if they are interested…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:07 PM
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That's the issue... I mean, statistically I'm sure it'll increase my chances in some regard. So long as I pass the prefilter. However, the ROI isn't worth it. First you have to dig through, all these different profiles, then come up with a conversation starter that shows genuine interest, and hope that after all that work, she doesn't just ignore you. The amount of investment required for that marginal increase, just doesn't seem worth it IMO It used to be, like 10+ years ago. But these days we'…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:31 PM
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Yeah it's simple game theory. I'm the type of guy who DOESN'T swipe right on every chick. Nothing more dissapointing than getting a match only to find out immediately I'd never be interested in this woman. Do I get rewarded for doing it right? Nope. Punished Same with when women complain about wanting more actual messages that show you're not just carpet bombing every woman. Okay. I'll do that. And guess what? It doesn't one bit improve the conversion rate. I'm not getting more results, women TH…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:38 PM
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A LOT of stuff these days that used to be useful, got overly commodified. That's the biggest issue. Now every niche of everything is loaded with influencers trying to make names for themselves, making content based on engagement, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:17 PM
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That's better than your victim blaming, I was thinking through what you said, and preparing a response. Until right here. We can't have a serious conversation if this is how you view things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:10 PM
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The point is that there is no system that exists which can replace it. The government isn't psychic. It's ran by people. How do we determine who's right or wrong when there's no evidence beyond just word of mouth? All people can do is play the game of probabilities. Please, I'm all ears. What reform do you suggest?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:20 AM
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Okay as someone who ACTUALLY studied this area for a time in college -- family law -- I can tell you it's nuanced. I think the truth is, the data is awful and there IS more rapists who get away than the data suggests, while there are also MORE false allegations than the data suggests. "Both sides" like to spin the data in their favor. The problem is that it's always a he-said-she-said game, so investigators and the legal system has to sort of just construct a situation based on what they have, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:39 PM
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Bro... It's not that easy. These are nuanced complicated issues, that aren't 1 to 1 the same. Just like men and women aren't 1:1 equal in every way, so are the situations that revolve around them. When getting engaged in a sexual act, you know the risks... Yes, she can be lying, and yes, you could get a kid. But once that process starts of a child being created, it's ENTIRELY her choice and as a guy, you just have to deal with the consequences. You flew too close to the sun and need to be smarte…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:56 PM
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Then it's just gold diggers and "former" sex workers. Life is hard as a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:53 PM
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I'm in Central Europe lol... Not really an option. Gypsies maybe, but doubt they speak much English.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:10 PM
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Shit man, I'm white, over 6ft, 6 figures, and 6inch dick, and it's still not easy. Women want the moon.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:54 PM
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Here's the trick. You don't cold approach like it's hyper social 90s, where that shit was normal. You just find an excuse to talk to someone. That's it. That's all it takes. I'm not even trying to approach anyone, and while walking around the city today, I talked to like 3 different women just because it was convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:55 PM
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Ehhh the way girls talk about my hung friends who they hook up with when they are drunk, are DEFINITELY not considering it some little advantage that's just blown out of proportion. They treat being "fortunate enough" to find a BF who's also hung as some sort of status symbol and badge of honor
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:56 AM
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Because length heavily correlates with thickness. But also, average thickness and long is still preferred because more positions, hit special spots, etc, that normal can't do. SO while thickness is better, length is still an advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:41 AM
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Yeah... I also think the guys WANT to be the caricature. We saw this same thing in I think the 20s? It's what lead to football. Seriously. The feminist wave was heavily attacking masculinity so the elites had a hard push towards much more aggressive physical activity to reclaim masculinity, and football blew up. In Germany it even lead to that thing where young men would cut their face with a sword so they had a huge scar. So even off the heels of feminism attacking masculinity, women also respo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 05:17 PM
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I mean you're more of an extreme case. I'm not talking about virgins here... But women with lower body counts. Who mainly just had sex with boyfriends. So like 10+ or so. Virgins are probably the worst to have sex with tbh... Because as you said, you get locked in. But also, there are always exceptions to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 04:50 PM
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Because I'm in my 30s, and most people here are teenagers. I think ~15 is healthy for my age on the high end of still acceptable. But everyone's different I supposed. Those who want 1-2 are just weirdos.. Especially into their late 20s. Like women are going to fuck their BFs, and if she's attractive she's had at least a dozen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 04:33 PM
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No, you're doing the false dichotomy. There's not "huge slut" and "virgin" only. I'm talking about normal healthy numbers, like under 30 for sure. Generally speaking, my experience is, the women who just had a lot of sex in a relationship, are communicating with their partners, and learning what makes sex good sex. Not the girl who only had 1 or 2 guys... But you know, enough to get a variance, but not so much that she's going through guys all the time. My personal experience has been the huge h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 02:59 PM
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Yeah when people say big they are including thickness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 02:50 PM
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There's nothing inherent about low body counts that makes a woman less sexual. In fact, the best sex I have is with low body count. It's because they have long term partners and explored a lot within their relationship and know what to do. Sluts are the ones who tend to just lay there
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:27 PM
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I think it's the result of the wokeshit. They wen't on the attack against masculinity and traditional gender roles... And shocker, most people like men and masculinity. So there's bigender revolt against the millenial "gender is just a construct, and masculinity is evil"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:21 AM
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Why's it always fat chicks which refer to food as "nourishment"? Either way, cooking's a man's job, as are all skilled practices. I don't trust my GF's cooking. I can do it 10x better than her half assed out of the box job.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:16 PM
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No I definitely agree men and women communicate differently, which is why I'm not framing them as positive or negative. Just explaining WHY those different communication patterns cause these effects. I mean, tell a guy you prefer bigger dicks, then boom, you lose out on 80% of your dating pool, so obviously they have incentives to lie. Or tell a guy you only are into tall, rich men, and boom, you have a potentially violent incel put you on his hit list. Guys don't NEED to lie, and benefit from b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:05 PM
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I think it's more about how men process information in the world. A post last night was a good example of this. Someone asked what women would consider a low value man. Women REFUSED to even perceive the world that way. Even though they very well shouldn't struggle with answering what they consider men who are unfuckable and undatable... They all REFUSED I think it's because men just process the world more mechanically. Most men have no problem saying what's a low value man or woman. This create…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:19 AM
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I think a lot of guys also just don't mention it as a standard. It's like a hot dude not having to mention he's not into fat chicks. He'll just never be with one. Lot's of people keep the socially rude stuff to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:16 PM
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Honestly, I've tried it twice. Both times I couldn't get over the idea she's been with so many men. I'll admit, it was insecurity. Something about going to an event and seeing multiple men she fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:53 PM
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Sure, but it's also common knowledge that sluts are generally sluts because they want male attention, and crave it so much they use sex to get access.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:38 PM
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Absolutely does. Reality is, there's not going to be a "connection". No common ground. What's a guy who's successful got in common with some broke hoodrat?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:59 AM
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I think everyone already knows women are highly agreeable and conflict averse, and men are very disagreeable and comfortable with tension. Hence why there are so many different outcomes for men and women. It's not sexism, it's just these seeded core differences that over time, lead to vastly different results.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:08 PM
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Dude... This is SUPER important. Redditors are filled with Redditors. Go look at pictures of Redditors. They are always the lamest, dorkiest, fucking goober-ass losers you can imaging. You have to remember, when you're talking to these people, they are 95% of the time, huge-ass lame losers, and social outcasts. NEVER take anything serious from their comments about anything social, especially when it comes to relationships. You don't take advice from bottom of the social hierarchy for ANYTHING ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:06 PM
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We talk about generalities in this sub. Also many men kill their entire family. You're discussing outliers. Most dude's aren't skipping town for some 25 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:04 AM
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No one is saying it's the be all end all... But it's obviously this bullshit thing to claim it doesn't matter. There's a gaslighting going on where women will insist it doesn't matter, but then when you see what people do and not listen to what they say, it tells a different story. No, women aren't falling over themselves to get a big dick. No, they don't require a big dick to enjoy sex. But they clearly like them, and give them preferential treatment and make it easier for guys to get laid, bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:58 AM
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I mean, I can only base things off what he shows me via text and how excited they get, and what he claims they tell him in private, and what I see first hand when going out. It literally goes from flirty and friendly, like any other normal encounter, to sexual. I've also got to hear enough women talk candidly about their thoughts on it. So yeah, I just don't buy the cope from dudes who insist it doesn't matter, or 20 year old girls who had a bad experience. Go to any swingers club where sex is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:09 PM
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Of course, but it closes the deal. Getting matches aren't too hard. But these chicks are fickle because they are being bombed all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 03:47 PM
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Not really... I see it first hand. He's not lying. Dude's often ask how to respond to chicks. I also go out to the bars with him. I first hand see the change women have once he tells them, and he even admits that it's a strategy that helps him a ton. He's said a few times that often girls will admit that it matters and how bad they feel saying otherwise but they just don't want to hurt the guy's feelings because they know how much ego is tied to it. The girls I talked to about it say that when t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 03:39 PM
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Yeah sure... Generally that's category 2. Or at least a lot of overlap. Most women who are attractive understand the trade off and accept the deal they were given. Most learn to navigate the occasional bad experience, because it's so much more worth having men constantly fawn and fall over you. So just deal with the few weird idiots, and get the benefits of guys always trying to please you. Hence why most attractive women wont complain about this. Because they know the pros far outweigh the cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 12:13 PM
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He gets likes and if it gets flirty and sexual he'll make sure to jokingly mention it somehow to let her know... and it goes from "maybe" to "definitely". At least that's how he describes it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:52 AM
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I have friends who get matches on dating apps here and there, and even casual hookups. One has a huge dick so he gets easy sex on the hookup apps, and the other is just handsome. But even they struggle, but still get a pull here and there. Meanwhile, I get absolutely none on the apps. Like it's a miracle if an actual attractive woman matches with me, and those convos hardly ever last. However, in the last year I've gotten with 3 really attractive women, far hotter than anything the guys on the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:37 AM
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No you don't. I hear people claim other people say this, 100x more than people actually saying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 07:59 PM
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I can't even think about it without crying. I'm so sorry. Definitely see a therapist about that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 06:41 PM
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Literally no one asks "What was she wearing." It's the most annoying strawman you guys always use.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 06:40 PM
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This is just a chick trying to feign high status.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 01:27 PM
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It's crazy how like 80% of these big national sex crimes like this, end up being complete bullshit. Remember "mattress girl"? She even went on to make a fucking porn to "recreate" the event.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:55 PM
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SHE ENTERED HIS HOME!!! AND RECORDED A PAST OUT GUY There's no "evidence" to collect. She has a history of doing stupid shit trying to "call people out" to get viral likes. This time she went to far. God you guys will defend women no matter what, wont you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:53 PM
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No they definitely interwine, but we are talking about the dominate culture, which is absolutely on the left. Conservatives are still seen as outsiders and looked down on by cultural elites. The message people hear from the left, comes from the media, institutions, etc, and they hear those messages. It's why conservatives seem "counter culture" these days, because while they may have power, they still don't have cultural power. If you don't see how the left has used their positions of elite infl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:01 AM
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cultural establishment Absolutely... The CULTURAL establishment is leftist progressive. You're confusing that with the institutional establishment which Trump made his own. The CULTURE pushed by cultural institutions, like media, academia, arts, etc... Is definitely not aligned with Trump
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 08:06 AM
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You don't hit on women. But they are mad no one is hitting on them. The duality of woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 06:19 PM
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I know a lot of women IRL who say that. But they also never go out. People just don't go out in general any more. Iunno, maybe they are expecting dudes to hit on them at the grocery store?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 04:57 PM
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Big skills are preferred but not required.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 11:10 AM

Most of those men are pedos looking for a child to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 12:00 AM
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Sure, but it will still help. People can lie all the time about anything. But most people act in good faith, even if there's a handful of liars. Further, get over it. Anon is dead. The government knows this account tied to your ID, but it's unlikely normal regular people are going to be able to tie this to you just because you added your age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:37 PM
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Dude, men absolutely get envious of other men who can get laid frequently by many attractive women. It's a sign that he's successful and something all men want. Most women still don't care, which is why they keep sleeping with those guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 06:57 AM
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At 24? Yeah I don't think it's that hard... They are basically just college freshman. At 35 though? Yeah that would be hard. Though there are some young chicks that party a lot and it's basically just a purely sexual connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:40 PM
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I think in those sort of cases, it's mate protecting. Like these girls in their 30s-40s have their setup and like things the way they are... Now some hottie shows up on the scene and dudes are stumbling over themselves, ignoring the older women, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:13 PM
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When I was 24 I was two years into a corporate career so not such what I’d have in common with a senior in high school. It's much different for men. I can see that being weird for a woman, but most guys don't care what her career is and all that. She's just someone fun to hangout with and sleep over. Guys value far less the deep spiritual intellectual connection so long as she's fun to be around and can carry a conversation. Some couples never even have many "deep" conversations, and many others…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 03:58 PM
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I don't think most people give a shit about that age gap... honestly. It's just online rage bait. Often people fight for a position that they KNOW is not popular, entirely to drive up engagement. It's like that saying, if you want the answer online, give the wrong answer and someone will correct you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 03:57 PM
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Alcohol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 06:09 PM
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few on this sub Yes, outliers. Extreme outliers. Out of hundreds of comments you'll be hard pressed to find more than a handful.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 06:06 PM
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I'm just explaining what it means. Clarifying your understanding of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 06:06 PM
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If the options were "viable" and produced results, the free market of choice would gravitate towards that naturally. The fact that it's NOT, shows there are more fundamental issues at play here. Sure it's easy and nice to handwave it all away and go "Just make better choices" and avoid all responsibility in fixing the problem, much like conservatives treat everything... But that's not going to actually fix it. The problem will persist until actual viable options emerge. Because if there were via…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:31 PM
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Okay but we're talking in generalities. Those people are extreme outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:25 PM
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Yes that's because men and women are different, with different advantages, disadvantages, and just general inherent structural differences. Most of these men we're talking about, like 99% of them aren't going on shooting sprees. They are just lonely men, with no real social groups, little opportunity, just desperate to find a way to stop being lonely... Or in some cases, lash out at society by rationalizing why it's not fair and who's to blame for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:14 PM
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But most of these problems you guys lay on them is "Oh you just must be a sexist asshole!" Rather than look at the structural problems that lead them to those spaces thinking they are the logical place to go. You guys don't like it when men blame women for all sorts of things negative they do, but when men do it? "Man up and take responsibility!" What you don't realize is most of these guys are poorly socialized, and general society is REJECTING them because society doesn't like loser men. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:12 PM
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I don't think people are talking about cheating when they use that term. Just simply that when women are young and hot, they go for the alpha, then as they age, they go for the bucks. Men tend not to like this because they don't get the hot version of her when she's ready to commit... Instead other men got that version of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:09 PM
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This is one thing that really bothers me... Listen, men, especially young men. ARE LONELY, and society failed them. Institutions, socialization, and the general changing landscape. I don't feel anger or blame towards them, but feel sorry for them. This isn't how it's supposed to be. Yet people just think if they keep insisting they are just losers and failures, isn't helping. This is a VERY deep, concerning social issue. We just got off several decades sympathizing about women, but now that it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:03 PM
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I think liberal men in general feel this way too... As a guy I know how guys can behave and can manipulate women for their own needs, so it's important to also teach them how men can become.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:22 PM
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That's called victim blaming. How about, instead of teaching your kids to do that, you teach other drivers to just not be maniacs? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:21 PM

Ahhhh yes, back when socially awkward men thought a fedora was a sign of sophistication and class. All those poor guys genuinely thought they were looking dapper as hell, only to be mocked in private.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:11 PM

They are both status reflections. Literally both of them. They are no different from each other. Money is a sign of male status and looks a sign of female status. Hence why both genders strive so much for their respective status symbol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:07 PM
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Stop it. Get off the internet. Outside the echochambers. Women are also dating less, lonely, and desperate for partnership. Stop looking at women as those clickbait tiktok hoes or outlier chicks guys talk about. Nearly every woman you ever meet, who's single, would prefer not to be single. They don't like the apps because it's a shit show for them in a different way, and IRL, it's getting harder to find people as social spaces dry up more and more. Not every chick is some sorority slut, Miami cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 09:09 AM
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What... I hear women every now and then complain about how infrequently men approach them, and how much they wish men would. That they are stuck just dating within their friend group which sucks, and would like it if more men shot their shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 09:06 AM
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Kind of a side note, but I personally know many older men who cheat on their wives with escorts. It's incredibly common. They LOVE their wife, but still have that primal sexual drive to fuck hot young women, and feel like that sexual nature is non-existent for obvious reasons, with their now old wife, so they cheat literally just for the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 04:38 PM
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This applies to hot chicks, and it's always been this way. That's just the nature of our biology: Hot chicks reign supreme and will always get a pass because we want to have babies with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 10:25 AM
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I think a lot of it has to do with driving culture. One thing I love about the UK, is like every block has their own pub, and everyone knows everyone. But it's similar in the city. You'd THINK all those options would make it worse, but no, it's opposite. Everyone after work walks to the nearest restaurant, bar, whatever, and routinely see the same people over and over until you're kind of part of the community. But in the USA, it's like we go from box to box, driving a box, into a parking lot, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 07:57 AM
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I mean, don't get me wrong, people aren't going out as much as they used to, far less partying, less drinking, less hooking up, way too much screen time. We've grown to be a very anti social society. But yeah, I think it's not the lack of third spaces, but too many. It's hard to rally up a group all interested in the same stuff wanting to do the same things. Would be much easier if there were just central places
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 12:40 PM
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I've watched multiple, read a lot, and attended many lectures on this topic. I'm far from someone who just watched one video. If anything, I think you just watched some contrarian take and just want to sit on the other side so you're going to defend the contrarian take. I've yet to hear a good argument as to why it's not a bad thing. The math doesn't make sense. You inherently need the productivity of the lower to support the upper. We are already seeing this first hand in multiple Asian countri…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 11:47 AM
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It doesn't matter how hard it is... People have kids ALL THE TIME in developing worlds where it's WAY harder. Many people have parents who talk about growing up super poor with 4 siblings, where they could barely eat. They've researched this to death. If you give a couple more money, they just use it for other luxuries. You can also look at the data across income ranges, and it's the same across the board until you get to the very top, where it's still culturally pressured and valued to have chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 09:56 AM
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I have, and the complaint isn't internet lingo like being called a "pick me" but rather, every guy there is trying to fuck her and it becomes too difficult to handle rejecting so many dudes just to have a social group.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 09:13 AM
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Woh that's such a reductionist way to look at the issue This is the finding of years of research that discovered People are struggling so don't have much time for relationships and not much money for kids That this has almost nothing to do with it. You THINK that has to do with it, but it DOESN'T There's a reason why the more wealthy a country becomes, the less children they have. They have programs all across the developed world throwing money at women and families trying to incentivize them to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 09:05 AM
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Get off the internet if you think that's anything serious. Yes. Most men don't go "OMG this is a male only space! GO AWAY WOMEN!" Sure maybe some women have an experience like this, but it's still rare and insignificant. It's like saying RP stuff is true because every man has a story of a girl who fucked him over just like those sluts he hears about all the time on the internet... When in reality, if that guy actually got off the internet, he'd quickly learn most women are nice and not trying to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 09:01 AM
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Sure, maybe some shit from some obscure outlier weirdos. But overall most would be appreciated that they joined. Do you think men don't get shit ever neither? It's women who act like any resistance at all is some indictment on them entirely. If I go to a new space, some people are still going to be like "Who the fuck is this guy? What a loser. I don't like him". Women are going to get similar treatment no different than men will. But that's just because everywhere has weirdos who don't like new …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 08:46 AM
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They got called pick-me's and got harassed for "invading male spaces". Stop it. The real world isn't the internet. You're obviously far too online if you think this is how men will actually react.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 08:39 AM
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Go watch "Birth Gap" - The unravel the issue with the birth gap. It's got nothing to due to with the intuitive things like income and stuff. It's entirely to do with the window for starting a family has broadened so much, that it's just hard to find a partner at the same stage in life as you are. They use a good analogy: Imagine your town has a single bar for singles. It's only open on Saturdays from 5 to midnight. So all the singles in town go during those hours, and are basically able to meet …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 08:34 AM
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I mean, it kind of goes without saying it's a matter of opinion. I'm actually shocked when I come to subs like this and people struggle to know how communication works, and when to assume something is a matter of opinion. That when people state things directly like that, it's supposed to just signal his own high level of personal confidence. I'll decide to change my views based on arguments and whether or not I think they are good.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 08:30 AM
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Because it's a debate sub. Do you never share your opinions on things? When you are out in public, you never give your thoughts on how you think things work, what motivates, whatever? Instead you just hold your opinion on things, and wait until you have peer reviewed academic research?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 04:18 AM
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You know this is a debate sub, not an academic sub? You can't expect everyone to cite all their sources. Of course it's all matters of opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 08:32 PM
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I'll admit, when I'm in a relationship, I'm much more driven. Being single you're kind of just wandering and fending for yourself. But when you have someone in your life, you're more motivated to achieve and be productive because it's more than just you who you're fighting for. It's something I think only men will understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 07:07 AM
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This just defies all basic game theory. Literally "free market capitalism" was theorized because of this reality that no man is just going to give up pussy. All that will happen is all these guys trying to make a point by "not being a simp" is that other dude's will see you as competition leaving the mating market, making it easier for themselves to get with these chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:24 PM
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40 YEAR OLD VIRGIN
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:49 PM
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Bro, there's literally a popular movie about this and why it's lame. Everyone already knows that it's weird if you're a 25 year old virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:26 AM

Nah, dude I'm in my 30s, and most women are fine with splitting the bill if you mention it in advance. It's only early 20s type girls who WANT to be pushy just to kind of demand things as a sign of status. The type of girls who are like "Pshhh real men blah blah blah" Most women are fine splitting, even in the early 20s, and one you hit late 20s early 30s, it's not necessary but more of a show of seriousness. As in, you're showing HER that you don't just see her as an easy lay, so you're signali…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 08:26 AM

No, I’m not attracted to the type of woman who requires status That's bullshit. ALL women are attracted to status. As social creatures fighting to reproduce, status games are absolutely inherent in humans. There are multiple games going on in your life, from micro to macro levels, vying for status -- which is deep down to get a partner and reproduce. This is true for EVERYONE - most people aren't even aware of them. It's just that there are different games you're playing, and the type of status …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 08:14 AM
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They go hand in hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 08:27 AM
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As someone who had to take courses on intelligence security before going to a post soviet country, we cover how Russian's, et al, directly get men to fall for their spies. And it goes completely counter to what you say. They train their female spies to basically treat their male targets as sex gods... That the guys sexuality completely drives them mad and they can't live without it. It's especially successful with powerful men who can get any and every hot woman he wants, but only the ones who m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 07:53 AM
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Women are far more agreeable and conflict averse. So I definitely noticed the selection bias. Most women aren't going to go start fights online. They will get dog pilled and attacked by the most rude people, so they are probably just not voicing their opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 07:50 AM
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I mean around here we speak in generalities, as in, those within the bell curve. You're dad is a bit more exceptional considering they were super young living paycheck to paycheck, but those scenarios are not the "average" scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 12:49 PM
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Yeah I get it, there are exceptions... But still, as heartless as it sounds, you're dad put up with it when he shouldn't have. Your dad did a really poor job at noticing obvious blaring red warning signs and then didn't have the balls to figure it out once his mistake was obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 12:03 PM
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You know how guys will go "Wow what did you expect for dating a pos?" Well it goes both ways. Sorry, I hate no pitty for dudes who get hit by their partners. Luckily it's not very threatening, but it's still loser tier shit to stay around a violent woman. In fact you're lower in my eyes than even a woman who ignored all the red flags, because at least the woman can get trapped and stuck by the time they learn their lesson. Men have no excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 11:04 AM
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Rich people can also be trashy and low class. And just because they aren't an only fans thot doesn't change anything. It's still gross. It's getting new partners on a regular basis for something like that. They aren't "normal" people. They are inherently dealing with some serious issues. Very very very few are Bunny Blue types... But instead seriously broken people who mask it well and express it through sex. Further, while many will like to argue "She just likes sex" or "guys aren't taking adva…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 05:20 AM

It's far different. You're commodifying the most sacred, and intimate human act... It's on a whole different level psychologically.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:38 PM
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No I don't think about their dicks, wtf? It's just that she's "that type of woman". As a human we generalize because it's incredibly useful, and as a man, we know the types of women who are hoes generally sit around the same spot on a ven diagram. She's just "oh one of those chicks". Not really top tier stuff. I mean, if he's into it, fine... But it's just not like I'm going to think he's found a real catch. It's the same as if a woman finds out her BF used to sleep with escorts all the time. To…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:00 PM
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You see your friend with his girl and think about how many other dicks she’s had? If I know a friend is dating a former hoe, yeah, I'm not going to say anything but I'm going to look at it like him settling and just taking whatever he can get. As not the type of guy who could do better. It's not about having sex... WTF? It's about a chick being a former slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:56 AM
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I think as men, we DO tell men to do better. If he's dating some crazy bitch, we generally assume that's on him and his poor decision making. I may sympathize and feel for him, but at the same time it's like "Come on man, this didn't come out of nowhere.'"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:39 PM
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No. It's not true. I was exagerating a trope. I mean if she had a lot of casual sex with a known hung guy, yeah some guys will write her off as a size queen and not want a serious relationship because they'll think in the back of her head she isn't enjoying the sex as much. But it's more about her fucking a fuckboy and being a side piece that I was trying to highlight. Girls who are other men's side piece he strings along to be exploited for sex are kind of seen as low status, and men will remin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 01:39 PM
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Okay great. I'm glad you got that off your chest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 06:01 AM
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Bro it's just an exaggerated figure of speech. I'm playing out a trope to make a point. Holy shit. Why are you so curious anyways? What's it matter to you? Do you want me to say, "yeah man I'm so insecure" then you jack off to it or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 09:30 PM
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You know people communicate in ways where they exaggerate scenarios to make a point? Further no one is explicitly saying this but thinking it, and low key getting the idea across. A more realistic example would be something like, "Yo you know she used to fuck with Steve right?" And that's all that's needed to say because the context says the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 07:31 PM

Dude, she was sooooooo hot too. Like off the charts. Young, hot, and huge tits. Absolute smokeshow.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:10 PM
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Part of the deal was "Yeah we know our wife isn't actually a virgin, and we all slept around a bit, but at least you seem like one publicly". I think that's where the modern breakdown comes from. Women don't even allow for plausible deniability. So now guys are living with the fact other men are able to say about their partner, "You know Steve's wife as been around. You know that guy with a huge dick that's fucking all those women? Yeah she was a side piece in his haram for months right before m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 09:38 AM
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Yes, generally they are attractive guys with big dicks. They don't like them much, but like the sex. These chicks tend to always hit up these dudes just when single and introduce them to their friends. At least that's what I've noticed among my hung friends. They struggle getting LTRs but have no shortage of repeat sex and new girls come into their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:57 AM
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People here speak in general terms. What you described are outliers. They aren't really relevant to the point he's making.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:54 AM

I think it's because people are more comfortable explaining how they really feel. You aren't going to find many men openly admit in public to a girl or her friends that "Yeah she's kind of a slut and I'm not into that." They just move on, maybe take her up on a few quick lays, then move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:34 PM

That's attraction. That doesn't make your junk feel better. A penis is actually in the vagina - very few men's priority is to titty fuck and probably isn't that good even if they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:30 PM

No idea how the things on her chest have an impact on your wee wee
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:24 PM

Just ask hung men what women say about them in bed. I promise you, it's nothing a normal guy ever hears. You may get some dude who's hung who insists it doesn't matter, but most men will be honest because they have nothing to hide, and they'll all say that yeah most women prefer it and helps them get laid quite a bit. Even that big dick problems forum is filled with dudes who are lowkey bragging. Like, "Oh yeah I mean it's really easy to find sexual partners... But it doesn't make them love me!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:52 AM

I dunno, whenever you see these threads, it's usually the top upvoted positively reaffirmed girl saying "Tee hee I actually prefer small!" Then the women who say they prefer large are completely ignored or get some dude leaving sad comments. There's no women in these comments saying they prefer large, until you go below the fold with the downvoted ones, and those women are having a bad time. There's just no incentive for women online to be honest about it because the reaction is no fun, but sayi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:49 AM

I dated a girl who just coincidentally had all her exes be hung. I was the only average guy she'd ever dated. She argues that you can pick up on their energy because the guys know they are really good in bed and often get positive comments about it from women, so they just have a crazy high sexual confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:46 AM

Ask men who are hung what women say when hooking up and they don't feel like they have to hide it any more. Women get pretty open and honest then. Or, you know, just watch their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:45 AM

The key is asking men who have large parts and ask them what women will say around them. And it's a resounding, "Yeah pretty much all of them admit to preferring larger".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:44 AM

That's a sub filled with masked bragging... "Hey guys how many women have you been with that said you think you've ruined them for normal sizes?" or "My partners always orgasm after just a few minutes and it's ruining my sex life with them"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:42 AM

Yes, absolutely. I have friends who suddenly started getting way more female attention once it came out. Hell I have a buddy who admits that dudes and women just say it because they are saving feelings. I've seen him in action. He'll be flirting with a girl and it goes from flirting to almost guarenteed hookup. He intentionally gets them to feel his huge dick and he admits that when everything changes. These women had no idea before hand, but almost all change tune once they find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:21 AM

Because it matters but it's not a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:19 AM

All I know is you can go to a porn site and get an endless stream of flat chested, small tits, etc porn. It's abundant. Now go look up small penis porn. It's almost all humiliation. No women is looking that up. In fact, their top porn search is huge dicks, according to porn hub.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:18 AM

Breast size has zero to do with sexual pleasure so it's not really relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:16 AM

It's 6.4 non bone pressed, which equates to closer to 7.5 bone pressed, which most men aren't even close to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:16 AM

I think women definitely, if given the option, they'd choose larger. You don't see many women wishing their partner was smaller unless he's freakishly huge. I think women just deny it because it's not a relationship deal breaker and want to spare men's feelings. They know no dude is going to handle it well that there's no way he'll ever be as good as her hung ex, so they just smoke screen the whole issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:15 AM

That's often because we quickly learn that women often don't say the truth. They hide behind a lot of plausible deniability and things they feel they should say, rather than actually feel. I have friends who are hung, and it's blatantly obvious how different they get treated by women. Almost always ex's stopping by for just hookups, the girl finding out he's hung then immediately wanting to sleep with them, etc... Or you just hear how they argue against it, and it's filled with weasel words. "Oh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:08 AM
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Oh gotcha. I think that really highlights the difference between men and women. Men, will generally start lowering standards -- even if it's just to get laid. But women seem to have a minimum standard they will fight to stay away from. They rather be lonely and single than adapt. We saw the same in post war Russia. You'd think that after half the married age men died, it would be great for men... Which it kind of was, but not as much as you'd think. Instead of women dating down, they MASSIVELY f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 07:32 AM
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I don't know what 4B is -- someone enlighten me. I do know MOST MTGOW types are doing it just because they have no success in dating. In fact, that's literally what it is supposed to be at it's core. Realizing just how hard it is to find a partner that they consider it just too exhausting and distracting, so they just cut out women entirely and remove that monkey from their back. The ones who say it because women are bitches, are probably just coping and would gladly date if a nice girl paid att…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 06:08 AM
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Yeah iunno... My instinct is more like, "Wow, fucking dorks. You're spending more time taking pictures of your food and travels than actually eating and travelling." I see it all the time with zoomers when I travel. The social media absorbed types, this sort of community and culture is core to their life. They MUST take pictures at scenic spots, touch up the photo, time the upload, etc etc... It's like just how life is to them, it seems. Like that's just something that's part of life, like picki…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 05:33 PM
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When I got it, it was literally designed just for your actual real life friend network to stay digitally in touch. Things sure changed. But I'm grateful I didn't get sucked in. I literally, couldn't care a single fuck less about what others are doing who I don't know. Some people are absolutely obsessed with watching hot trust fund kids live lavish lifestyles, and personally, I really don't care. Sucks for those people though. I know it's really fucking with their heads. Almost every girl I know…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 04:46 PM

I mean they've done studies with people and people almost always match up with someone of equal attractiveness. When there's a disparity in attractiveness, problems tend to become more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 08:56 AM

It's best to get advice IRL for some reason. Online, there is a culture of saying things people want to hear over being honest. IRL, it's harder for people to do this, because you can interrogate their claims and challenge them... By having an actual nuanced discussion. But online, people just say the most feelgood stuff and get upvote affirmations from the people's ego they are protecting. Weak guys with no muscle WANT to hear the strong guy insist that getting strong didn't actually help him w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 07:22 AM

It's the same thing with the dick issue. When you bring up "women like muscles" they immediately jump to idea of the most extreme, huge wadling body builder type. They aren't thinking about the fit, lean, proportional guy. "No women HATE guys with huge muscles!", not realizing most men aren't talking about The Rock, but more like Ryan Gosling (which also takes a shit ton of dedication and often drugs, to achieve). They do the same with dicks, "NOOO Women HATE big dicks!" And immediately jump to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 07:07 AM
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Sure you could still fail, but if you ever want to succeed you're going to have to at least try... And try and work on it especially.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 12:50 PM
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That doesn't happen in real life. That's a rare exception that just gets posted on the internet. In reality, you fail and the girl just hints she's not interested, and you move on. You have to stop being so terrified and thinking the worst case scenario is normal. It sounds like cope justifications to avoid doing things that are hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 09:57 AM
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Dissagree... You need to try and hookup with women to learn. You'll fail, iterate, improve, and continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 07:59 AM
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No it's not prior relationships that's the issue... It's the likely been married or have kids. Obviously dating in the past is fine. But dating a chick who's divorced or dating multiple guys, is common in that age. They tend to be like that "for a reason". There's absolutely a pattern... For every woman who's divorced on good terms but just grew out of it for whatever reason, there's 5 who pick absolutely horrible partners and have issues of their own that lead them there to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:28 AM
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Im in that age range. One thing that's oddly not discussed is something women complain about. Women will complain that guys around that age, all the good ones are taken up. That most good men by then are gone, and the few that are around, are looking for younger women. Well the same is true with women. Most women in that age group who are single are either filled with exbf/husband/children baggage, or former party girls. Not many quality single women at that age at all. Hence why guys start goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 02:57 AM
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When guys say big, they aren't talking about freakish porn star dicks... Women tend to do that. Guys discuss size and women jump to the craziest extreme of size then say they don't like the freakishly huge.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 08:02 PM
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FYI: Since people are confused. It's just a term. It was coined on a reality TV episode to refer to an average size dick that a girl can have sex with frequently. Like you know, good size, not too big, not too small, so you can have quickies and as much sex as you like. Holiday dick was meant to be like it feels really good and enjoy it but wouldn't date it because the size can only be done every now and than, so there can't be regular sex like with a boyfriend. Use whatever terms you want, I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 05:56 PM

You're right. Some can be assholes because they are just huge dicks and get away with anything because their looks. But most attractive people also come from good stable families, educated, and understand their situation. They tend to be really kind because, well... The world is kind to them. If anything it's really annoying. You get the hot chicks saying, "Girls the trick is to just be nice! The world is amazing!"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 09:10 AM

Men are perfectly fine at looking at the world as it is... If women cared about men sleeping around, and that men would get less access to women, men would take the criticism, asses the situation, and stop sleeping around. Women, on the other hand, know men don't like it, keep doing it, then try to force men to like it anyways by shaming them. Seriously, men have no problem adapting. If it came out that women thought dudes with muscles were ugly, they'd stop going to the gym. If they would rejec…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 08:15 PM

Sex work is a terrible career choice, lifestyle, and no one should be doing it. Just like drinking alcohol. It's still enjoyable but it's wise to discourage it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 07:54 PM
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Nah, I later learned they both liked me and since I was a bit of a playboy this was the female soft touch/plausible deniability way of opening the conversation and seeing where it went.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:08 PM

I don't hate sluts, just wont date one seriously. However while I think hate is a strong word, heavily denouncing them and speaking poorly, yeah that's a thing. To play devil's advocate, I think it's due to social values It's why I think there are more liberal sluts than conservatives. Far left people don't value cultural structures. Conservatives do. They see the value in the frameworks social norms and values produce. So they will shame what they consider behavior that shouldn't be encouraged.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:05 PM

You're literally in a debate subreddit asking, "Why do you guys even want to waste your time debating?!?!"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:01 PM

It's not ideal, but everyone makes concessions based on the perceived value. The same way you may not really be a fan of italian food, but if it's done by a world class chef, yeah you'll make sure to reserve a spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:01 PM

That's why I always hated the argument, "OMG Men love porn, and watch it all the time, but wont be with a sex worker? How hypocritical!" Hell, I'd even argue that it's a moral failing to be a slut too... Since while she may tell herself "I too like the sex so I'm still winning" I think that's just cope to rationalize the position men see her as. That said, just because I have no problems being friends with sluts, I wouldn't want my daughter to be one. I am cool with my drug dealer, but don't wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:09 PM
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Two chicks once told me how crazy it was that they BOTH had sex dreams with me in it last night. I didn't even ask what it was about. Just kind of was like "Wow that's crazy. Anyways" Men are dumb as fuck .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:32 PM
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You wouldn’t need a salesman if the person already wanted the product. That's absolute bullshit. Sales people aren't paid to manipulate people into buying shit they don't want. If that was the case, they wouldn't exist because no one would want one. Sales people are there to educate the customer and really good at figuring out their needs, wants, and discovering if the product can work Two sales people can sale the same exact product but a person will be much happier with the good sales person b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 05:04 PM
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Usually if you know nothing, you have to start somewhere. Starting with a script is how you learn the routine. For instance, in sales, you get a script to help sell a product, because without it, you'll fumble. You don't know why it works, but it does. Then slowly you start getting comfortable with it, understanding why it's structured the way it is, and no longer need the script.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:57 PM
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That's fine... Yeah I had to learn it old school, but that was thankful because i was attractive and social, so I had an intuitive advantage. However, I would be lying if I didn't learn different words of wisdom (game), that I applied which just improved my chances and success rates. I see literally nothing wrong with it. For instance, I'm a really good sales person. I don't do the psychological tricks, manipulation, etc, but I'm really good at it. At one point I sucked, and I DID read a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 07:40 AM
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Just make a bold first step that is actually you. Most dude's aren't good at either, KNOWING how to do this. This is hard for a lot of guys. They have anxieties and lack the experience to build the skills to do this well. Hence why they benefit from having outlines. Further, many guys "actual you" doesn't do well. They need to know which part of them, as well as tweak other parts of them. Hence why game helps. Men have been talking about "game" for centuries. How to pick up women, what to do, et…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 06:53 AM
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I would say pickup is more what you're talking about. And most of what you do, does have degree of "manipulation" or persuasion, or whatever softball word you want to use. When you choose to go to a nice restaurant, there's a degree of "manipulation" to that... When you choose to dress a certain way, you're trying to send signals to her you think she'll take favorable. Again, everything you do is game. Some are just on the more extreme side of the scale of being deliberate and focused on their a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:44 AM
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Every guy plays game. Every, single, one. You just don't realize it. You just aren't as honest and aware of it. You know that joke you used because it's a reliable laugh? That's an element of game. You know that thought in your head about when it's time to stare a little longer to check if she's feeling it too? That's game. Not everything is pick up artist game.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 03:51 AM
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You don't have to be the best. When you have access to everyone, you also rank up and start dividing out with others. Sure you may think Becky is the best, but she's hotter and is getting with Mark. You wouldn't experience this shuffle if you didn't interact enough to shuffle into the hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 08:35 PM
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I was listening to a podcast with the guy who did the documentary on the Birth Gap. The key finding around why people are struggling to date and have children... Is not self evident. We all like to believe it's because of things like income, location, etc... But it's not. All these variables people intuitively think they are, are wrong. They did the research and measured the controls. It's not that at all. The issue with dating, and something the government can address through policy, is the win…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 03:17 PM
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Yup when I was younger I explained that it wasn't so much about the sex, but what it represented. I was able to become the type of guy women wanted. It was validation. When I was able to sleep with many attractive women, it told me I was doing things right. But when I wasn't able to attract women, it was telling me, I'm doing things wrong. People may not like it being phrased like that, but it definitely felt that way. Successful people doing it right, tend to have women gravitate, when doing it…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:27 PM
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Well natural selection, evolution, and the cause of so much progress, would definitely disagree with you on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:24 PM
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No, based on the rhetoric here I don't get that idea at all. It's a normal thing to say "Women are blah blah blah" and not mean literally all women are like that. Because it's a truism. Everyone knows. It goes without saying that when someone says something like "Women like tall men" they don't mean ALL WOMEN LITERALLY. You should know this. This is how people communicate. People are talking about "In general"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:58 PM
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not all women are the same God why do you guys obsess over saying this constantly. Yes no shit. It's a truism. Everyone knows this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:05 PM
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That's fine culturally... But men aren't fucking each other. But in some cultures it's fine, but that's because of how it's viewed and the social aspects around it. Sort of like how pedophilia is highly traumatic given the cultural context and boundary breaking, versus other smaller tribal cultures, it's normal practice that researchers find zero trauma from. Culture matters, but the context of the culture also changes the dynamics. How we view sex in the west is different than other cultures, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 06:18 PM
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What's there not to get? Men and women are different. The dynamics are different. It's for the same reason why a guy is usually fine with an open relationship as long as it's just with other women. Women are seen as sexual, sensual, emotional beings... There is something feminine about women loving other women. But men are competitive, fighters, and stoic. There's nothing masculine about two "men" having sensual sex with each other. It just breaks the concept of masculinity when two men are with…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 10:30 AM

63% of women ADMIT to it. I'm highly confident that's way higher in practice. Once rubber meets the road and she's thinking of her partner sucking a dude's dick with glee or getting fucked in the ass all spread eagle... She's out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 10:28 AM
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Yeah I was going to say, guys like myself... Totally fine being single. Literally don't even try and I'm fine. But I've discovered the shitty dudes are obsessed with dating apps and meeting chicks. Like it's an addiction that they can find someone to get and stay with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 05:49 PM
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I wouldn't say "people don't talk about this"... I think what's important is your social group. Are you a theater kid? Fat? Just general dork? Then yeah, in that culture, any attempt at not being a huge nerd is going to trigger the crabs in a bucket. But for normal people, yeah, this shit is common discorse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 10:59 PM
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They absolutely do, dude. RP shit has been discussed for ages, especially in comedy. They may not use extreme internet lingo and ingroup speak... But the concepts? Yeah dude, those concepts are shit men have been sharing with each other for ages. Most guys I know shit-all about RP stuff, but when it comes to talking about women, if the person isn't a full blown nerd, they'll laugh and agree with most of the concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 08:30 PM
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I feel like a lot of women who think they "found a good one" who, when among just men, that guy says a ton of red pill stuff that would make his GF think he was some crazy alt-right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:23 PM
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Dude, why do you keep specifically specifying how it's not literally ALL, as in not literally every single person, doesn't XYZ? We know this. You don't have to remind us constantly. It goes without saying. Don't let chicks who constantly feel the need to remind you that they are snowflakes and when talking about women that not literally every single woman is like that. We all know. It's like saying, "Women don't like a micropenis" and then some chick is like "Tee hee, not ALL women hate them. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 03:26 PM
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I think there is a general, universal attractive... That's undeniable. However, there's the general model-esque beauty, and then it can refine into the more specific niche beauty. For instance as a guy my ideal woman has red hair, 5ft, petite, athletic, B, boobs, thick hair, smooth skin, etc etc... Okay. That's ideal niche, but she would still be considered hot by most people, but just extra hot by my specific taste. However at the same time, I wouldn't say no to a hot 6ft brunet with D tits. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 03:11 PM
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They definitely don't deny. That's ridiculous. They may downplay it's importance, which is true... Compared to men, women care less about looks, but they still care.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:11 PM
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Bro the reason I sub here is because of the ridiculous questions from highschoolers and college kids posting the most dumb of hot takes. It seems like every few days there's a post about how "Here's the logical evidence that PROVES women give more favor and benefits to hot guys!" Then goes on describing how women will have sex with hot guys faster, pay more attention to them, be more forgiving, etc... Like it's some sort of gotcha against women. It's not even something women deny... It's not lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:39 PM
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Eewww tell them to leave me alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:15 AM
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Same... Easy lay, good sex, loyal. Perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:40 PM
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This has to be a troll. You can't be serious. You consider it "horrors" to go on a fucking coffee date? What type of skizzo shit is this? You consider it "bad" if a girl wont fuck you before you exhaust a single cent navigating a capitalist society? Holy shit you're fucking nuts dude There's no way you aren't on the spectrum or have some mental health issue if you're being serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 07:30 PM
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Okay dude, you're fucking straight up skizzo and I can't take this serious. If this is how insecure you are, that you wont have sex with a woman unless she gives it to you free right away, you better be a fucking prince or something, else you're just going to be insecure, miserable, and single forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 07:25 PM
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Dude you're so fucking weird. I had over 30 women by the time I was 30. So it's not like I struggled. You arne't going to ever get laid very often if you think you can just randomly meet chicks and start having sex. Even the biggest of sluts want to do something. Like how do you think this works? You meet some chick off the internet and you just meet to hookup? Hell my buddy uses fetish sites with total hoes, and even those girls want to first meetup and make sure everyone's cool. Just because s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 02:47 PM
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It's so fucking weird.... Like "Men do you even realize you treat hot chicks differently? HUH!? You assholes!" Like yeah, no shit. I'm going to treat a hot chick differently because she's hot. What a dumb question.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 12:55 PM
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Yes, men are hardwired to have a much higher interest in looks. If the girl doesn't pass the looks test, no amount of nice girl will get him horny. Or as you've noticed, less attractive women who are really into him, will be used for sex when he's desperate -- and often genuinely think he likes her because his biology is lying to him, hence post nut clarity. Something unique to men This is also one of the reasons men intuitively don't like sluts, because it triggers the response of "Oh a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:07 PM
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I mean she can love and respect him, and still not find him attractive. It's one thing women are really good at because of evolution prioritizing resource and security in men, versus men who just mainly evolved to prioritize genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:14 AM
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Again we speak in generalities around here. We understand there are exceptions. But they've done studies on this. Women's idea of attractive is very narrow and very similar, where men have a very broad and varied idea of attraction. While most girls are going to generally gravitate towards the same type of men, men will gravitate towards entirely different types of women depending on the guy. Like the range is very broad. Some guys like really short petite girls, others like girls with huge tits…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:13 AM
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Does it communicate the idea he's trying to get across or not? That's all that matters. If you care about picking special words that you feel better with, you're a child
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:32 AM
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That's what I meant by the big dick double speak. The same way women insist size doesn't matter, is the same way men will try to deny this... Only in front of women. But among other men, yeah, we admit it all the time. There's the hoes we wanna fuck and ditch, and then the girls we take seriously. It's also part of the reason why guys don't like former sluts, because we know her status and how guys view her: She's the quick easy fuck, but not the wife. So guys don't want to hook up with a girl l…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:15 PM
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Owning it? This is common knowledge. What is the percentage of people who refute this? It surely can't be high. This is something every guy will admit to when women aren't around. It's the big dick preference doublespeak, but for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:31 PM
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She’s not the hottest girl he can get or desires, but she’ll do. And as she starts to age she’ll become more and more unattractive to him. Just an FYI, this isn't true until far later in the marriage than most of you think. People in love, tend to massively overstate their partner's attractiveness. They do brain scans to ensure they aren't just being socially nice. Men and women, literally think their partner (when in love), are much more attractive over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:30 PM

Status is the subtle force that drives almost everything we do in life. If you look at the rich, you'll notice that they marry young, have lots of kids, and don't divorce. This is considered high status cultural traits. So a guy getting with an older woman after her prime, subtly signals to him in a complex cultural way, that he's low status Men have an advantage here, because it's more socially acceptable for a guy to marry much younger women, as culturally it can be viewed as "He was on his mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:24 PM
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This is such a "Yeah no shit" post... Like is OP feeling like he has some divine insight? OP, I will literally let Sydney Sweeney kick my balls for a brief motor boat.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 02:27 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:06 AM
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I've been poor, like very poor. Hell I was living with my mom in my late 20s, unemployed, dating chicks... No one ever used me for money. Even when I started making money, the most "usery" was I paid rent and dinner. But it wasn't like she was using me, but rather, she made far less so I didn't want her to blow all her cash just because I wanted to go out that night.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:14 PM
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Of course... And that data is probably not relevant. My point was that it's best to use the mean collection of data... Further, it's not really relevant because as I said, when people talk about this subject, they talk about a specific type of demographic. When you include all the hyper religious, femcels, ugly, etc, it drags that average way down. Realistically, when people think of the average type of person they'd want to date - that demographic - the number is likely significantly higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:01 PM
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Who the fuck are you guys dating? A bunch of trailer trash gold diggers who secretly hate you? I've never, not once in my long life, ever had a woman use me for resources. Stop dating trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:46 PM

Awwww aren't you special? Over here talking about averages and bell curves and you're like, "Hey look at me! I'm outside the average distribution!"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:50 AM

As I said in the other thread: Maybe that stat is true in the sense that it's the most extreme outlier stat and we're using it because it feels good. Sort of like with penis size everyone will quote the average is like 5.2 inches even though that's the most outlier study and it's quoted because it makes dudes feel the best. Further, you have to use an average of the target demographic. Sure, if you include fat chicks, ugly chicks, religious chicks, etc, it's that low... But what's the actual num…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:47 AM
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Well yeah, one of the big issues with these assessments is we do global averages rather than targeted averages. We should concern ourselves only with averages within the target demographic we're interested in. It's like saying guys shouldn't be worried about making money because the global average is really low so them working at Taco Bell is actually a high income when compared. That's all I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:18 AM
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You have to be careful on which data you use. I see it a lot on forums like this discussing sensitive subjects. People tend to latch onto the most ego convenient stat instead of the most reliable one. Generally speaking it's best to get all the data and find the mean. The idea that most people only have like 5 sexual partners in their lifetime, just "feels" like it's that one study that has the lowest number possible, and spread around. I see it all the time with the penis size debate where ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:35 PM

Well then... Let's just hope AI advances as fast as I hope because that seems like the only way for you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:37 PM

I'd say it's a win if he's a 40 year old virgin. Dude was risking death without ever even touching a woman. Anything at that point is a win
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:30 PM
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I mean I wouldn't rely on that study since it studies a totally different animal. But I intuitively believe all three of your opening part, tend to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 05:05 PM
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I mean, just based off life experience, as you get older you start to really notice trends and patterns. The people who do sleep around a lot, definitely seem to overlap a ton with the people who can't maintain long relationships. Yes yes I know, there are exceptions blah blah... I'm just talking about the obvious distinguishing trend. Get with a girl whos very picky about the guys she sleeps with, and it's likely she's going to be loyal and around for a while. That relationship, once started, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:49 PM
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Females, in every species, are the gate keepers to sex, and thus, have the upper hand of entitlement. Humans are no different. Just deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:51 PM
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Here's my take on it... Men are going to do whatever the hell they need to do to optimize their chances of getting mates. If whatever the blue pill actually promotes, actually gets dudes laid and in relationships, that would have a huge ecosphere. The fact that men aren't flocking to BP communities for dating advice, is just evidence that it doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 07:27 AM
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Of course... The issue is people, both men and women, in the modern dating scene, are huge perfectionists, and want to make a decision after the first date. Most professionals in the dating field recommend going on multiple dates before writing someone off... Because often, it's not until the second or third date that you actually start seeing the person on a deeper level. Many people will admit that on their first date, they really didn't like them or have any spark, but did a few dates later. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 09:13 PM

His handling of the tarrifs are literally his weak point. There's a reason he's gotten nowhere with it... His 90 deals in 90 days lol. He just pissed off the entire world by wrecklessly doing blanket tariffs. The global economy is complex and he just levies them blanket... As well as just uses them as retaliation tools for whenever he's pissed. Oh his corrupt friend in Brazil is facing criminal charges? Tariffs... But he's not smart about it. We OBVIOUSLY need tariffs, and Biden was working on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:09 PM

Absofuckinglutely not... I hate, HATE Kamala, but she wouldn't have completely upended our relationships with all our allies, become a global laughing stock, and inject steroids into our already top heavy income inequality issue and growing debt crisis. She would have been a corporate shill, sure, but fuck dude, what Trump has done is just add fuel to division and destroy everything in his sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:45 PM
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Donald Trump becoming president as the anti woke counter reaction
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 01:56 PM
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Debate is something people of all ages engage in, but especially college age. It's sort of like the atheism debate. Eventually it just gets worn out and case settled so it's talked about far less as you get older. That said, men feel this way into most ages. The overwhelming majority will bang an easy chick on the side, but wont seriously date her. You may not hear mid 30s guys debate this much, because it's been debated to death by then and that the case is settled. But since most of us are mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:34 AM
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It's a benefit for men, yes, but also a benefit for women, who probably don't want to live in a world where men are more violent, destabilizing, prone to war, and so on. We want stable, predictable, prosperous societies... WOMEN want that too... So when the men aren't getting access to women, they are going to end up in a world that they'd like far less. And I don't know what you mean about your last part. The opposite is true. Women are forgoing relationships all together because their standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:26 PM
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Of course, things change and thus so do the fitness standards. But that model seems to have a long successful history and should still apply today. And in regards to you last part, but people ARE still having babies, it's just that a ton of mostly men, but some women, are literally dying out for failing to adapt. Within a few generations we're only going have left being the people who DID reproduce and have kids, and will pass down those personality and cultural traits. But today, with the low b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:22 PM
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What do you mean? Every modern society pushes monogamy. But if you go back into the past, like any era where men were single at high rates, they did a lot of war. Romans for example. I recommend using AI to get leads, but they've done tons of studies on this where there is a direct correlation between the amount of single men and the amount of war and things like piracy. Basically things single men who can't find partners end up doing to create purpose in life. And this era today, is the only ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:16 PM
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Hate it or love it, but the restriction of female sexuality to restrict it to mostly monogamy, is widespread globally for a reason: Because it works really well at creating stable societies. Societies that don't do this, end up with the 80/20 thing going on, with a ton of single men, who end up creating all sorts of havoc and destruction. Societies that tried to restrict female sexuality to keeping it within monogamy, meant there were more women to go around so men wouldn't end up single and goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:01 PM
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Men want them, they are just rare. They get scooped up early and the remainders realize that while men prefer X, they know due to market forces, they don't actually need to be X and can still get by fine. Men like easy women just for short term relations, full stop. Not for LTRs. We view easy women as just easy prey which is why they may get more male attention at a bar or something, but she's not getting a whole lot of call backs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:48 AM
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I know, I'm just explaining WHY guys in these situations are in them, not whether or not they are hard to achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:46 AM
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Most women don't want casual sex, and the guy probably wants long term sex with an attractive younger woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 08:42 AM
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The point was that men who ARE seeking those age gaps, or are in those age gaps, aren't doing it for her deep wisdom or adult behavior. They are doing it for mostly the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 08:12 AM
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They are sexually more attractive though, which is why so many guys obsess over this. They want hot young chicks to fuck instead of older chicks who are, let's get real, not even remotely as attractive on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:45 AM
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I am, because I have eyes and know those relationships are destined for failure. Not many men maintain long relationships when their partner significantly makes more than them, and most women even admit that they don't like this setup. It's just a relationship destined for failure. But do women even complain about this? They should have a dating pool with equally successful men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 03:50 PM
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I think you just need to do a much better job at picking partners. Most women don't consider their partners abusive and sucking more for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 12:48 PM
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You literally missed the point. You aren't even commenting on what he said. You come off insufferable. Are you like, 17 or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:52 PM
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She over does it... That's the issue. There are people who do work but done well... But those people often see positive results and go "Okay do more and make me better!" But then you start getting negative returns. She's at that level. The oversized lips are low hanging fruit. Lip fillers are fine, duck lips are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:11 PM
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He has porn brain. Bimbo fetish. She looks exactly like an old, aged out porn actress.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:26 PM
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I just don't think you understand how natural selection works. I can't believe I'm even having to have this conversation with you. If these traits weren't favored, they'd be removed from the genetic pool over time. If these syndromes became counter productive to reproduction, natural selection would select a genetic profile that makes these traits less and less likely, but instead, they've been consistent enough over time for us to know it's been around as long as we can remember Further, it IS …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:05 PM
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How so? That's exactly how evolution works. If those traits were not useful in reproduction, then they'd be selected out. 80% of personality is genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:52 PM
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Obviously. It's called natural selection. If women actually preferred XYZ traits, they'd be selected for and men would be like that already. Men are the way they are, because that's been the most successful type to be to reproduce. If anything, we are currently seeing it in action. Young men listened to the official woman narrative that they want "something else", so they started shifting, and are now realizing women actually don't want to sleep with the sensitive anime feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:55 PM
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Also no study asked every single woman on the planet. I had to stop right here. Why do you guys do this? It goes without saying... When people are discussing SOCIAL issues, obviously nothing applies to 100% of people. Hell I can say "Dude's don't like getting their dicks chopped off" and people like you would be like, "Did you ask EVERY man? Because I've seen videos on the internet where guys do enjoy that!" Yeah, obviously. It goes without saying whenever people talk about these issues, we're t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:27 PM
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You're doing a 1 dimension scale. When in reality it's a 2 axis scale. Which is why people are going to struggle with it. One axis is looks, and the other, status/personality. I'd argue high status mid men are probably the most sought after for LTRs because they have the status but aren't a huge flight risk of being a low key fuckboi.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:26 AM
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fly to 2nd/3rd world countries where the value of their mediocre income is inflated which allows them to purchase transactional relationships I don't agree that it's transactional. Just like in the US, income = status. It's not that these people are "buying" gold diggers, but rather, going to a place where their income makes them high status. So now as a high status guy, they get to experience and live a high status lifestyle. Naturally, women are attracted to status, which is understandable. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:38 PM
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Post modern just means post modernity. Modernity exists in every era... National identity has always exists. Not by borders and states, but by "kingdom" or kin. People absolutely have always identified with a greater group. Sure, back then it wasn't about borders, but it still existed in the sense of a group... The Jews for instance had NO border, but there was a Jewish kingdom And why can't I discuss culture without identity? Is this some intellectual game where you want to exclude a part of it…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:54 PM
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It didn't collapse BECAUSE of it... It's a symptom, not a disease. When those things start appearing, it's a sign of post modernism where people stop having a shared collective identity and value system. They become selfish and violate norms which create stability and strong bonds. That's not what CAUSES the collapse, it's what's the result of a collapsing empire after everyone's in that part of the cycle where they these things no longer matter. This is the sign of a culturally weakened society…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:49 PM
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How's that not trusting and respecting women? If women feel weird when you approach them, that's a YOU problem, being bad at it and clearly needing practice, or she's weird, which is a her problem. Sounds like you're just tyring to rationalize and find justifications to avoid hard situations that make you uncomfortable. It's easy to create a virtuous framework to rely on and point towards as an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:38 PM
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They don't get uncomfortable unless you make it weird. If you're awkward and nervous, yeah you'll make her uncomfortable. But that's the point. To normalize it and become confident. It's a skill like anything else. Don't listen to what women say, watch what they do. They enjoy being approached by a guy she sees as on her level. It's only when they are below and unpredictable/weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:28 PM
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Get off the internet dude... Most women don't think men who approach them are creeps and stalkers. The reason those videos online of chicks claiming that go viral, is BECAUSE it's outrageous and crazy to say that. It's what makes it engaging and go viral. Men who approach women are much more likely to be a higher quality man, over a guy who's too afraid to deal with rejection... Because what does that say about the man? He's not confident nor able to deal with challenges and failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:14 PM
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Well there's also no such thing as a man who has a 9 inch chocolate dick that ejaculates diamonds.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:12 PM

No, what makes you think that? I talk to women and know men with big dicks. Most guys notice the patterns, hence why this issue exists. We notice how differently hung guys are treated... Guys know the friends who have hogs, and how women treat them differently sexually. Ever been to a swingers club? I have, in Berlin, where it's sub 30 people mostly... And you don't have to feel crazy to learn who the guys are who got the most attention. Nor do you have to feel shocked to noticed how much more i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:40 PM

This is what I mean lol... When guys say big dicks, they aren't talking about freakishly huge porn star dicks... But big. Not huge. And yes, I'll stand my ground because action speak louder than words... Guys aren't dumb, we see the patterns and notice the different behavior women hold towards it. We didn't just manifest this idea out of thin air. Yes yes yes... SOME girls like them small! SOME girls prefer whatever... But overall, if given the choice, women would like a larger dick. There are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:07 PM
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It doesn't make you a "baby" to want a man. Whether you like it or not, women DO like men who make them feel safe and can protect them. It's instinct. They've done tons of studies on this, and women may say they don't care, but their actions show they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:46 PM
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I mean, you're MORE likely to find a relationship that last and is quality if you avoid the people with red flags... Not that those with those illusions of red flags wouldn't lead to a good relationship... But again, when you're limited on time and information which pile do you want to focus on? The one where 7/10 are likely to be quality, or 3/10 are likely to be quality? It just makes sense to not invest in the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:17 AM
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Yeah of course, like I said, there are obviously reasons outside being a red flag that you'd be in that position. But I'm talking about the general reality. Generally, someone in that situation is likely not partnered up because they don't make a good partner. Most people don't have time to vet every single person deeply... We have limited time and information. So if I see someone with red flags, do I risk it by investigating, hoping they are an outlier, invest my time and resources crossing my …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:34 AM
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I was talking with a friend at a bar, and she said some of the girls consider it a huge red flag that I haven't had a girlfriend in 4 years (LTR break up, lead by death in the family, lead by a lot of moving around)... And now that I think about it, I get it. I know if I met a woman who only had two serious boyfriends, I too would if a girl who was not ugly (so basically could date if she wanted to), only had a few BFs and hadn't had one in a while. I'd instantly think she just sleeps around wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:58 AM
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I have buddies who are hung and they aren't bullshitting and bro talking. Pretty straight shooter honest guys. They talk about how most girls love it and get excited when they find out. How often they orgasm really fast without even trying hard, he just has to get it in and be gentle and they are off to the races. That girls whenever are in between relationships will make sure to make him their FWB. They'll even admit to them that "Yeah they lie about saying size doesn't matter". These aren't gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:47 AM
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I've never heard a drunk chick insist "size doesn't matter" lol... They all become size queens after a few vodka shots
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:30 PM
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I don't think the TRP crowd is trying to engage with outsiders, especially women, on their content. They aren't trying to invite women in and engage on the topics. It's not for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:11 AM
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Yeah, great example... Educated black gay guy, not talking offensively, and suddenly the RP stuff is palatable. There's a guy who goes on Soft White Underbelly, who's an expensive dating coach, and literally 90% of what he says and argues, is RP stuff, but said in a way that doesn't offend women. Which is funny because he overwhelmingly coaches men, but also understands that to do that, he has to appease women to ensure they don't get upset. So he's coaching men, but speaking in a way that appea…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 03:16 PM
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No, I'm pointing out that it's still effectively saying the same shit. No matter what relationship book you read, they all tend to circle the same concepts, using different language. Also I don't think the hippy shit I used as an example is "gross".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:24 PM
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Again, it's just a language thing... You can get very "woo woo" hippy type relationship books, and they say the same exact shit, just in a less offensive language. For instance, RP may use a lexicon of just calling women children because that culture is about shocking, attention grabbing language, which really gets to the point. But you can get a hippy relationship book, and they'll basically describe women the same thing, just less offensively. For instance, they'll just talk about how the femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:13 PM
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You are correct, but your examples are absolutely shit tier for the women. Like for "The grind" women will instead reference it something like "A guy who has a good work ethic an a lot going for himself", or for alpha she'll just refer to it as something like "I like a tall guy who cares about his health, confident, and great in bed tee hee" But yeah, ultimately, you're right. Their issue is the chosen language being too precise and masculine framed... Women like softer, more ambiguous tones, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:05 PM
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I can't. This sub doesn't allow linking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 09:46 PM
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Literally a majority of women say that. Like almost all of them will insist size literally doesn't matter... Even women here in this thread are saying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:50 PM
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No, I'm just saying women aren't being honest when they say, "It literally doesn't matter! Literally! I can tell no difference! I have no preference!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 07:45 PM
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Because often actions speak louder than words. All it takes is some candid convos where you'll hear about "how lucky" she is her new bf is hung, or how when word gets out that a guy is hung, suddenly women are just showing up... There's plenty but I don't want to keep going on. But it's clear what women prefer, but don't like admitting it because 1) they don't want to make men insecure and 2) don't want to seem like a slut. IMO the women who insist they don't prefer it are rare, or young so thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 06:48 PM
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That's factually not true. Men have been complaining about this long before porn was widespread. Literally back to ancient times.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 06:22 PM
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It's because there's obvious deception and double speak going on, where women do care but don't want to admit it because it'll hurt guys ego. It's the ambiguous and opaque nature that frustrate men, because they never get a straight honest answer that matches the actions they view IRL I know dude's irl who are blessed, and they absolutely get return sex and easy sex way more than average dudes. Hell one buddy just flirts with the girl and once they start getting close, he just tells her he has a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 06:20 PM
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Or it's straight dudes who have a sort of "kink" of men. For instance, many men who, when really young, "experimented" by getting blowjobs or giving blow jobs, grow up totally straight, but still have a kink for blow jobs from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:52 AM

It's risky. I say this as a guy in his late thirties. Suddenly you'll realize 4 years have gone by since you've had a serious date. Time starts to fly, and if you don't do a little chasing, you can end up missing the train.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 12:43 PM
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That's the story behind Adam Smith discovering how capitalism works. He realized that it was impossible to get men to cooperate to avoid the hot chick and focus on her friends. If they all competed over her, then no one gets her, and the friends feel insulted. But if they all ignore her, all the friends get excited for the attention and they all get laid. But no matter what, some guy will always betray everyone and go for the hot chick when he thinks no one is looking, which pisses everyone else…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 12:31 PM
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generalizing is WHY humans are so successful. It's an emergent social property. It allows us to generate scenarios and predict outcomes. It's what allows us to imagine a situation and imagine what to expect so we can manage it adequately. We don't have enough time in the world to not generalize. We MUST generalize due to our limited time, and use that to navigate. We have to look at situations, take in all the variables, and predict what's going to happen, weigh the probabilities, and react acco…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:43 PM
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Yeah, I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 01:15 PM
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Well that's why I prefer it to be logical and laid out. If the argument makes sense, it makes sense. I generally don't needs stats or anecdotes, just a logical chain of reason. But often, people insist it becomes an academic journal debate so that stuff has to be included.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 11:32 AM
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No, usually the stats are correct, but they'll find other pet theories to rationalize the statistics. For instance: Women with higher amount of sexual partners, make worse long term partners. Each side will give you different explanations for this. But ultimately the stats do align with TRP not wanting high N count women...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:51 AM
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Can you share some examples? Only one I can think of is the age gap thing... Since most people have a 3 year age gap, and men dating significantly younger women is quite rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:39 AM
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No, whenever a statistic comes out that supports their position, then suddenly the opponents get all nuanced and start attributing it to other things. For instance, something off the top of my head is, women hit children more than men. The opponents will point out that "Ahah, but women spend more time with children so naturally they'll be doing more hitting per capita!" But then you control for time spent, as a ratio, and women still hit children more. So then the excuse is, "Well women are cond…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:20 AM
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Much of what they argue is backed by statistics. But the opponents always reject their analysis and make up other justifications for the statistical outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 07:34 AM
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EVERYONE IS SETTLING If my wife isn't a 5'1'' petite smoke show model with less than 10 sexual partners and obsession with my dick, then technically I'm settling too. Nothing is perfect, and everyone is settling in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:38 AM
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There's nuance. I think most don't mind if she has many partners, just not being slutty about it, hooking up with guys casually and quickly multiple times. Like a chick who routinely fucks dudes she barely knows... Those chicks aren't considered dating material, but just sex objects. But when it comes to dating, the preferred partner keeps sex within relationships. At least that's how I see it... If I know an attractive chick is easy, I'll be all over her if I want sex. But I would never date he…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:37 AM

I never said that was. But if you're routinely going to the gym, you're likely healthy and eat healthy. Yes, some people who go to the gym are fat fucks who stay fat. But overall, people who routinely work out, are skinny and not fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 12:17 PM

Fit and skinny isn't your thing?? Okay, well you're an outlier if you don't like women who are slim and in shape, so it's kind of a moot argument. It's like when someone says women like tall men, and you jump in with, "Tee hee, dissagree, I actually like short kings!" Like, okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:58 AM

Sure, but once you get into it, it becomes enjoyable and now you WANT to go to the gym. After 30 days, it's now an enjoyable thing you look forward to. Women, on the other hand, need a lifestyle of constant attention to their looks
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:24 AM

I dissagree. I used to think so too... So I get it. Yes it's true, men not only have to work out and have a focused diet, which is hard and time consuming, but they need to also build a personality on top of it, which is it's own type of hard. And while true, most women, just not being fat, is pretty attractive, that's not "hot". Hot requires a lot of work. It requires a lifetime of understanding fashion, constantly moisturizing their skin, spending hours in front of a mirror every day, dieting,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:13 AM
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I think it's the media. Because the exposure people have of people in the media, are generally going to be from affluent backgrounds. The mere fact that they are involved at a level that includes them in the media, means that they are inherently top level people. And those people always talk about right out of college they got a job making 120k a year, or working in finance, and by 25 they were making a million In the media, we only really see the exceptions, elites, and people at the top... And…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 10:44 PM
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What exactly is stopping men from joining social, hobby, or sports groups and making friends? I kind of don't like these answers for problems. Obviously, yeah, they could do that, but they don't. The solution isn't, "well then they just need to do it!" If that's your policy, then nothing will change. Telling people to just behave differently wont cause them to behave differently. You have to address why people are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:05 PM

It's just too hard. I do want to date, it's just not easy. We all know how the apps go for men, so that's out of the question. That leaves me with meeting people outside socially... And frankly, it's just hard. It's not easy as just finding random women off the street and setting up a date. First you have to kind of find some social scene and get to know people, and hope you hit it off with someone... Usually these social scenes don't have a huge supply of people, so what if you don't hit it off…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:04 PM
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They'll also learn the subtle social cues that higher class kids learn. You can just tell someone's class by their mannerisms, which often is how people find similar friends later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:32 PM
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There are far less incels IRL and most Chads are pretty fun and cool people. The internet, as always, likes to create some binary view of the world, like a Disney movie or something. I swear, I don't even think I've met a real incel yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 02:29 PM
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Same with really hot chicks... They are that hot because they invest their life to being hot. They tend to be less enjoyable to be around than regular attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 10:08 AM
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Or that, like all other things, you take out of it what you find value in, and don't follow everything like a puritan religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:00 PM
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There are endless forums, subreddits, and porn genres specifically dedicated to small boobs. I've yet to see a small dick space that isn't about humiliation, and "average" dick porn and subs, are mostly dedicated to making men feel secure. I don't think many women are going out of their way for normal dick sizes, but many many men are gonig out of their way for smaller boobs. So in that way dick size does not matter much as the rest of the package can compensate for it There mere fact that a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:30 PM
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Well, I dissagree with that part I suppose, and I think many RP guys would also dissagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:27 PM
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I mean, I think guys who believe 3 is too many, are extreme outlier beliefs from men. The overwhelming majority of men would think that's a really tiny amount, outside of highschool.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:07 PM
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Uhhhh okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:00 PM
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A thick dick is a big dick for all intents and purposes - But it is also what women search the most when they search porn. But size doesn't matter, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:02 AM
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You've only had 2 partners, thus are quite inexperienced. Wait till you've had a bunch more variety and you'll start to form a better preference. Seriously, I find it weird that you think you have insight into this issue with such little experience. Most chicks don't even learn that they like big dicks until they find a guy who knows how to use it. When they are young, banging young dudes, who are banging away like flopping fish, and think they hate it... Until they get older with experienced me…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:50 AM
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I don't think their statement proves anything as it's literally just an opinion with no fact. Considering the overwhelming majority of women don't use dating apps, yet most are in relationships, proves that people are finding more IRL dates than off the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:17 AM
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Yeah it is... But like all things, practice self restraint and don't have it with everyone who makes you horny, like some gooner
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:16 AM
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I'd argue your thesis that if you suck at dating apps, you probably cant get a date IRL is wrong, and flawed. I think most dudes who can get dates IRL also would struggle with apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:25 PM
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Sure... But some things should have self restraint. Doing heroine makes me feel good too
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:23 PM
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I've hooked up with 2 women so far this year I met IRL. I've yet to get a match with someone on a dating app which isn't fat. And even then, so far it's 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 04:24 PM
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I think those are valid feelings that exist for good reason. For instance, imagine just a total dork ass weird nerd. Just a total loser who's into furries and shit. Someone like you would tell him to "Who fucking cares what society thinks man! Just own it! When you go to that party tonight, talk about your funkopop collection, wear your hentai tshirt! Fuck social norms and status! Don't be insecure!" Well, I'd say, someone SHOULD feel insecure entering that situation like that. You should. That …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:44 PM
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Yeah I don't adhere to this concept of breaking down all social and culture norms to indulge like it's an age of decadence on decline. I don't think indulgence in anything and everything just because "it feels good" is a good way to navigate the world. So I'm not interested in people indulging in such low level urges.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:34 PM
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Yes that's definitely an element to it. But I don't like this idea of "fear" or concern being some sort negative thing. These are perfectly valid things, because they are true. There is this weird, polyamorous community thing where they try to have some sort of inhuman level of control over "insecurity" as if it's this bad thing that you just have to push through - which in reality exists for a reason. For instance, yes going into a room with 3 men who fucked her is a bit of an insecurity (not o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:17 PM
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No, high value or low value depending on the woman, because that's an accomplishment, that's hard to achieve, exclusive, and rare... A man who can sleep around is the top 10% lookswise. But on the other hand, it's a red flag of self indulgence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:16 AM
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No because I want a relationship and I'm not interested in 20 year old behavior of just trying to fuck anything that walks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:14 AM
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Watch "The Birth Gap" - The come with receipts and data. It's NOT economics for the most part. People think it is, because it intuitively makes sense, but it's not. People used to have kids all the time poor as hell, yet, there is a direct correlation with countries where the wealthier they get, the less kids they have. It's cultural, focusing around status.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:37 AM
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Sure... Doesn't change anything Hedonistic indulgence isn't a good sign though. In my experience, people with this trait sit within a bell curve of red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:35 AM
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Oh yeah? I'm sure...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:34 AM
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It has been commodified. If you're giving it out so cheaply, at such a low value, it's inherently commodified. Having sex with tons of people with such a low requirement bar, means your sexuality is inherently abundant and easy to access. It's low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:33 AM
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Yes it is an option, yet it's not being used, so obviously that's not a good solution. And even then, it doesn't change the whole number of the birth gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:33 AM
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Yeah I find this behavior and experience almost exclusively around really attractive women with tons of options, because the consequences don't really exist then, and guys tend to want to make things more serious and take you off the market before you keep sleeping around and find someone else. Every guy wants a hot chick. I dunno though, the best sex I ever had in my life was with a hot chick that sleeps around. She was enthusiastic, exciting, and worshipped me. But for whatever reason, once I …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:51 AM
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Ehhh still don't align. If you were stranded on an island with one of these women, you're just stuck with limited options so you can't really have much of standard at that point. Which is why I think some men who are okay with these women are psychologically on that island and are willing to forgo otherwise normal standards, just to get access to any woman. And since these type of women are lower status it gives them access to them. I will agree there definitely is a social element... I mean, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:47 AM
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You’re blatantly excusing manipulation and lying. It’s weird. Why are you doing that? Still not following your logic. Are you saying I have to accept your argument that you hate women if you aren't honest about your romantic interests, or else I'm defending this behavior? No, I'm just refuting your position that men who do this actually hate women. Why do you make the logical jump that I'm now defending this behavior just because I don't accept your reasoning? That's weird IMO
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:40 AM
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I don't think it's necessarily insecurity. You're a woman, so it's just hard for you to understand the male experience. It's not so much other men's opinion of her, but it's just knowing "the type of woman" you are partnered with. Sort of like, her sexuality is a commodity rather than something of value. That it's nothing special to her, as many many men have had it and experienced it and she just gives it out to whomever. It just kind of has a low value marker on something so human and emotiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:17 AM
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You're extremely rare... I assume you're really attractive? Usually dudes aren't willing to go that route unless the FWB was a foot in the door, maybe he has a big dick and is able to attract the horny chick in, but she's hot enough that he'll put it all aside. Because in my experience, it's usually the girl who ends up wanting more. That she was batting outside her league and was hoping sex would get her ahead of other women. When it's the other way around, it's usually the guy looking at a hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:10 AM
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I'm sorry I just don't follow that logic at all... I don't see how you translate someone who misleads someone to get easy sex is "hates women" much less "hates themselves". It's called selfishness, and there isn't much more into it than that. You can't imagine liking someone to get sex from them, because you don't have to. Men are thirsty and will fuck anything relatively attractive. So you don't need to ever worry about that. If you want sex, you just say it, and you get 20 dudes at your door. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:08 AM
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Sure... That can often be the case too. But usually that's the surface level excuse, without doing much internal reflection. But yeah, those cases can exist. I'm not denying that. I'm just talking in general here though. These women who "just enjoy casual sex" tend to bunch up as a "type" on a bell curve in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:39 AM
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Okay having a FWB is a bit different. Further, nothing about what I said is "men hating women". How did you extrapolate that? Seeing some humans as lower value, but useful for selfish purposes, doesn't mean you "hate" them. It's not any different than a girl who has an orbiter she calls for emotional support but would never fuck, "hates men". Those men who would get mad at you for leaving was because they had some feelings for you, as it is in most FWB situations where one party has some feeling…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:36 AM
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The same way a gambler who enjoys gambling is being used by the casino when they keep giving him comped stays and free food. Guys know X woman enjoys casual sex, so they'll lead her on to get easy sex from her, tell her what she wants to hear, pretend to like her, all the while he's looking at her like a fuckhole when he's drunk and horny Men, in general have very low respect for these type of women. They aren't seen as high value, quality women, but women to hit up when their dick is talking --…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:20 AM
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Oops yes I replied to the wrong person lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:09 AM
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The birth rate thing has pretty much been discovered. Google "Birth gap documentary" It's not economics, it's not gender equality. It's almost entirely just cultural. Once having kids and a family loses it's "status" bearing, people just abandon it. Humans are status seeking, and having a family used to be important part of being part of society. But eventually people just stop caring -- usually after an economic shock. But even after it recovers, people realize that they rather enjoy life than …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 11:27 PM
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It's not about forcing people dude. You can flip it around, and go "Wow this country everyone is getting married so young, we should really find a way to encourage people staying single a little longer before finding a partner" then you jump in, "Oh so you want to FORCE women to fend out in the world on their own? With the shittier choice!" Stop being irrational. Families are good for society, and families staying together, raises good children. No one is talking about forcing anyone, but rather…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 11:24 PM
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Oh for sure... It's the one thing that annoys me the most is this trope that "nice guys" are actually "secret asshole incels who hate women", when in my experience most of these "nice guys" they like to dunk on are genuinely nice guys who are social losers and not actually assholes -- which is why they are so frustrated. Because they are told by women and society to just be nice, kind, caring, and loving... And they'll get the girl. They forget to tell them about the fun personality type. They a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:19 PM
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Most of these nice guys are redditors. I know what they are like. They are awkward dorks. So they may be the genuinely nicest, kindest people in the world, but they are still unnatractive in the "awkward shy dork" sense. Which isn't attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:52 PM
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Oh so the solution is just get men to collectively change? That's not how the real world works. Here's the real solution: Leave the fucking USA God, it's so nice living in other countries, where women are just normal people, who don't exploit their sexuality for capitlistic gain, to get the most optimal partner as possible. After leaving the US, I've been on way more dates, more hookups, and the dating environment is just all around way better. Unlike the US where you kind of have to scope aroun…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:43 AM
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Because those "nice men" also happen to be boring, nervous, and unattractive. Basically drying the pussy up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:29 PM
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One of things I hated the most from the woke left was the whole "Sex work is real work" trope... God damn did that cultural virus ruin so many women's lives. And I'm not even talking about industry porn and shit, but even OnlyFans where they are "in control and independent". A few times a year, someone will hit me up as it spreads around our extended network of friends of some chick we know or familiar with, who did their OnlyFans thing during the pandemic. There are websites out there which scr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 12:46 PM
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Same... I think many of them were great, but I just can't get over that hump. It's always in the back of my head. I wish it wasn't like that, but it is. So here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:46 PM
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I mean, it's not like it's something you choose. Not being into fat ugly chicks also limits your options as well. If it was as easy as just changing preference, then having a larger pool to pick from, then I'd do it. I just personally can't stomach the idea any more than a fat ugly partner. In an ideal situation I'd LOVE fat ugly chicks, and that would mean I'd be happy with those easily accessible women. But I don't, because those preferences aren't something you just negotiate with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:58 PM
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Oh I did post it, then immediately hit edit to add more because I realized I needed to elaborate and put in an extra paragraph. But I wasn't "replying" to anyone. That doesn't make any sense lol You can hover over the time stamps. Original post was 2.28 with the edit at 2.37 - I probably had the page left open or something while I went to do something else, came back, realized I should finish my thought, and just edited it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:50 AM
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The issue with this is that it is just yet another thing limiting an already limited dating pool. Like yeah, if you're a hot dude who has tons of chicks coming at them, pick your Daisy. But for most guys, if they start liking a girl, they don't have the privilege to go, "OOoh this is an area we don't match in. I'm just going to have to start the grueling dating process all over again."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:45 AM

Lol I've heard that so many times... Like a girl will be in a FWB situation, but insist size has nothing to do with it... He's just great in bed. But the fact that he's large is just a coincidence. The pattern is so common.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:43 AM
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It also doesn't matter until they start dating a guy who's large. I think it's always the same thing... Sure some girls will get upvoted online who say "Oh I always hated it" because it's feel good bullshit. But IRL, the story I hear is: At first it was difficult, but then after a while I got used to it, and it was AMAZING. I'm so lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:41 AM
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Huh? I edited a typo
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:37 AM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:36 AM
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Well I mean, it's understandable, no? Sure there are plenty of guys who don't care, but why close yourself off to just that pool of men? What if you're a woman and really hit it off with some guy and you really like him? Just take that shit to the grave. So long as she never publicly admitted and is known as being a slut, she'll be able to relatively easily navigate and get by without him ever knowing. I remember when I was dating a girl who was 26 and she admitted she has slept with 18 guys by …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:28 AM
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No I'm not redpill... I'm more neutral. I just said I was red pilled, in the euphemistic "learned about reality" sense. I think the modern dating market is incredibly incoherent, confused, and broken. I think most men are understandably frustrated with not just finding women they like in general, but women who meet their sexual standards as well. I think women have more power today than any point in history and they are definitely taking advantage of it. Which I have no moral judgement on... But…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:23 AM
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That's the human experience. We're all trying to figure it out. And what sweeping generalization am I making? I'm just pointing out my observations from my perspective that it seems like I was naive to how common it was. It's sort of like the whole dick size thing where you're raised to believe women literally don't care and it's all in men's head, and then as you get older you start to realize.... Ehhh, I think women are lying and generally speaking size does matter way more than they are leadi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:43 PM
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Red pill is also a saying for knowing the truth. As in, "Oh wow, my eyes were really opened to the reality of things. I wasn't aware it was this common"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:37 PM
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Many things have... But I had a lot of experiences during that time back in 2012 that really opened my eyes to what women do when they think their man is away... Or women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:01 PM
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It's the same in every big city I've been to. Berlin is on the more extreme end, sure, but still... Humans are human.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:06 PM
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Okay that's fine, you be you. I think they are absolutely different things, for sure. But seems like you don't hide it so it's not an issue. But guys like me don't like the idea that my partner used to let dudes easily put their dick into her and she found it fun that barely strangers were banging her. Not my thing, yet many women will deceive and lie, insisting they don't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:06 PM
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I don't think he's saying it's the majority. He's saying, it's more common than most people realize. Which I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:49 PM
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Because the casual sex is also denied. Yes it's ethical, but it's still one of those smoke screens put up that a guy would have NO idea that his girl sleeps around town before he met her. When I moved to Berlin and had a ton of really attractive friends, that's what really red pilled me. Just watching the amount of cheating and low key casual sex, from people you NEVER would have guessed... Ruined it. Girls I'd be into, only to find out, secretly banged her trainer, random guys, secret off tinde…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:29 PM
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The women I’ve known like this were usually bigoted in many ways. Doubt. Nearly every chick I've ever met except like blue hair woke types, have always had an ick about it. Maybe not publicly, because women are smart enough to not show their hand, but definitely wouldn't date a guy once they found out he's bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:22 AM
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From my experience and understanding, is it's usually straight men with a sexual fetish of other men. There are tons of dude's who call themselves straight, who also just get off on jacking off around other guys and shit. I believe they are totally straight. But if they were more liberal, they'd probably say bi... But then it comes with a lot of stink, so even then they probably would still say straight and keep the dude stuff low key.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:21 AM
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By pretty much every metric of success, a dual parent household is overwhelmingly good for a child... Something that is now no longer the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 12:49 PM
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I'm in my 30s and still find mid 20s the hottest, hands down. Once women get into late 30s, like my age, most women have lost it. Very few are still sexy and hot. So Iunno where you're getting this idea. I wouldn't date a 20 year old, but they are still objectively hotter than a 40 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:27 AM

Those people are more exceptional. Most people who use prostitutes, aren't just a one or two time thing partying with the boys in Amsterdam. Most people who use sex workers are losers, married men, and almost always sex pests. Most women aren't going to want to start a relationship banking on the fact that "it was just a drunk one time thing"... Since statistically, while you may tell her that, chances are, you may be the type who uses them frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:49 AM

Lol no they don't dude. They don't feel "OMG sex workers can render me useless!" Women are emotional and don't think like that. That's man thinking. Women know a sex worker isn't going to be an emotional replacement. They get the ick because it signals to them that he's unable to get laid without paying a massive slut to fuck him. It's low value shit and seedy. Their ideal man in their head doesn't need to go find sluts for cash on the internet or underground buildings to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:47 AM
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He didn't ask that. He's asking why.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 12:15 PM
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Because very few people are with a person they think is ideal in every way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 07:06 AM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/speaking-in-tongues/202307/how-many-total-lifetime-partners-are-too-many https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-number-of-sexual-partners-by-country Refuting your single, outlier study, that has no correlation studies to confirm it's findings, ONLY studies that say otherwise, doesn't mean I'm just "going of feelings" You're the one digging your heels into ONE single outlier study that no other study in existence, confirms.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 07:31 AM
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Yeah I'm sure they exist. No one is denying that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 07:27 AM
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How is that flat earther logic? THAT makes no sense. When you have multiple studies, you tend to go for the bell curve of all the studies to get a general idea of where reality is. You don't go for the one outlier study that's at the end tail of the curve. When 4 and 15 are the extreme findings from two different studies, but all the majority of studies find around 7-9... It's safe to say that the real number is closer to 7-9 Often these outlier studies get through peer review because peer revie…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 12:50 AM
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I don't buy it because almost every other study puts people closer to 7-8 by age 40. That's why it doesn't make sense. That's why I brought up the penis size one. It's a study that is an extreme outlier, but people LIKE that study because it fits their bias (Oooh boys, a 5 inch penis is actually average so you're 6 incher is huge so stop being insecure big dick boy!). But when you look at the collective of studies that's the ONLY one that says women have 4 in their life time. Every single other …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:02 PM
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And as I said, there are MORE studies saying otherwise. This study being presented is often used around these parts, but is an outlier study. Most do not draw that same conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:00 PM
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I still don't buy it, because that study is the outlier study showing the lowest amount out of all studies. It would imply that most women are actually mean averaging closer to 2.5 partners due to women who have tons of partners upping the average. It just doesn't make sense. Think about it, are you truly going to sit here and believe that most women only had 2-3 actual romantic partners in their life, much less hookups? It doesn't pass the sniff test, which is probably why it's also the report …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:22 PM
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It still makes no sense... That would mean most women have what, 2.5 partners due to more promiscuous women weighing larger numbers? I just can't buy that most women only have 2-4 partners their entire life. No way. Other studies are more realistic showing around 7-8 for people under 40. And no, Reddits favorite study is literally, out of ALL the studies, the one that found the lowest average - it's the extreme outlier -yet it's the one most quoted as fact... Because it makes people feel good. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:18 PM
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I think both settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:48 PM
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Settling doesn't mean they don't love you... EVERYONE settles. Everyone. My ideal woman in my head, is someone I will never meet nor marry. But it doesn't mean I haven't had incredible relationships with woman that I would have gladly aged out with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:44 PM
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I don't believe that single study Reddit loves to quote. It defies all real life experience, and must be flawed somewhere because other studies say way more. People tend to quote that ONE study that best fits the narrative and ignore the rest. It's like how Reddit likes to insist the average dick is 5 inches because it makes them feel the best, even though it's one flawed outlier study There's no way the average woman's body count is barely 4. Not a fucking chance. Not outside Utah at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:43 PM
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It's the sex pests that fuck it up. Lost's of dudes out there just wanna goon with a real person and don't give a fuck about standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 01:14 PM
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Men have literally always been this way. There is no changing inherent biology. Men are always going to be this way because that's the inherent end result of being the gender who holds all the supply of sperm and women's eggs being the scarce resource.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 08:08 PM
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No, women do not prioritize looks just as much as men. Men can still get status and get a hot partner who genuinely likes them. You can become incredibly charasmatic, business leader, popular, etc... And get a hot woman. I know plenty of ugly sales guys who have wicked hot wives. What you don't see, is the opposite. Because men aren't willing to compromise on looks just because some fat chick is popular, funny, and has an amazing career. That's not to say looks don't matter, but at least for men…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 10:51 AM
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That's absolutely not a mainstream idea that "looks don't matter". The only closest thing to that mainstream being true is it matters less for women, because women prioritize status more than men, who prioritize looks. So looks matter less to woman than men, but by no means does that mean it doesn't matter. Obviously it matters. Just fucking look around. Only the internet people say otherwise to do dumb feel good shit to win virtue points.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 10:31 AM
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I was listening to a podcast the other day, I think Chris Williamson, and he made a really good point about mainstream advice for men. When it comes to masculinity basically they argue, "Masculinity is whatever you want it to be! You define it any way that makes you happy!" Which is, outright, dogshit advice. So you have a generation of young men who don't even know what masculinity even is because it's been obfuscated and dilluted... 1000s of years of men developing masculinity in a way that at…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 10:29 AM
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Yeah, everything has changed. A good talk on it is with that annoying "The diary of a CEO" guy (God what a smug fucking name), who had to guests on to discuss it. But basically it has to do with everything changing... Men no longer have sense of purpose or value. Since women date to the side or up, most men are now our of the question because the modern economy and society now favors women and punishes men. Men are more lonely, have less friends, less college education, less income, etc... So wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 07:35 AM
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Most guys aren't able to offer what being a traditional man. That's what's killing the dating market. Women want traditional, even if they say they don't, they still want a manly man who's got their shit together. But most men dont. Hence why so few men get all the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 09:33 PM
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It's always over the dumbest shit, and they treat it like a court litigation. Like someone will be like, "My boyfriends mom asked that when they come over for Christmas, that I dress more modestly instead of my typical skimpy outfits. Like hello, it's MY HOUSE! So I cut her off, no contact, and since my boyfriend says I'm over reacting, he just learned a lesson about how he has NO CONTROL over my body, so he's out too!" These people have no concept of inter relational politics of life and just t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:26 PM
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This is how I view advice on Reddit. It's like someone who read a book on BBJ technique, but never actually fought themselves. And those people who read technique in the book, are now giving advice on how to fight like they are experts. It's always absolutely shit tier. Reminds me of HR people or lawyers, giving advice or something -- I can't perfectly put my finger on it. But they give advice like there are these black and white universal rules, globally accepted, so it's as easy as just hearin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:59 PM
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The bell curve of male rape, is vastly different than the bell curve of female rape. By far. The whole scenario is vastly different. And I'm FARRRR from a feminist. I'm definitely anti feminist. But I also just don't think a guy having a girl fuck him when he's black out drunk is the same as a predatory man doing it to a woman. The contextual variables are just vastly different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 01:37 AM
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You're talking about outlier cases, I'm talking about the general bell curve.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 08:49 PM
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You just admitted to having the mindset of a violator. Okay Are you saying women can't have sex when drunk? You know how many people hookup when drunk? It's insanely high. Stop acting like it's all rape. FFS - Stop removing agency from women like soon as they drink they lose all responsibility. NO one is saying they are shitfaced. These women ARE enthusiastic
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 08:49 PM
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In my experience, it's the woman facing regret... Either having a partner, or social consequences. Alcohol is usually involved but she's not unable to consent. She just takes things too far than she otherwise would sober and now regrets hooking up with some loser, fuckboi, or jock.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:29 PM
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I mean, it's usually because it's from a hookup with someone you recently just met in a group setting. It's not some secret hookup off Tinder or whatever. But I'll argue that rape is a bigger issue, but not more prevalant. Like a lot of things men deal with, we just brush it off and since it's not as big of an issue (It's really not since it's 90% of the time really easy to defend against), most guys just learn that's a possibility and learn to deal with it rather than march like a bunch of TRAs…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 07:40 AM
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I think it's mostly to due with the dynamics being vastly different. Men getting raped aren't really in a state of threat or danger... Women have a whole different dark and scary dimension to it. For guys it's sort of seen as "Ohh that sucks but whatever dude, you were safe and sound and have nothing to worry about. You'll be fine." But with women, there is a huge scary shadow and underpinning of danger involved with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 06:51 AM
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Every single case of false claims of rape I experienced was "clear and enthusiastic" consent. The problem was, she was cheating and the guy didn't know... Then other people found out she slept around with said dude, so she jumps to claiming she was wasted out of her mind and basically raped, to defend against the incoming inevitability when her partner finds out. And one case of the guy just being a weirdo loser and her not realizing it until a day later when people started socially judging her …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 06:49 AM
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How is that irrational? I had to study family law, and this specific topic is heavily discussed. If you think the only way to measure false rape claims is by what's proven, in a structural system that doesn't want to prove false claims, then you're the one being irrational
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:03 PM
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We're discussing broad structural problems. Obviously everything can ultimately be reduced down to personal responsibility. But we are looking at the collective whole and the bell curves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:58 PM
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Okay, but what's proven is different than what's REAL. That's my point And in my second point, you didn't understand what I said. I said I think there are more instances of false rape claims than actual rape. Just that they are never brought to a legal level, and since it's not as severe as actual rape, there is less concern about false accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 04:43 PM
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There is literally no way of knowing that. None. Like I said, most false accusations are just dropped and ignored. We don't have any way of knowing how many false accusations there are. Only a very very very tiny amount ever even make it out beyond just a social setting. I've been falsely accused of rape, as well as multiple others I know. It never amounts to going to court though. It stays social as most people realize real quick it's bullshit and just drop it. So we don't have any way of colle…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 04:36 PM
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Proving false accusations is incredibly hard. The data is all over the place. I know in my personal life, I know of multiple false accusations, but a single one that would be proven via a data point. Generally what people in this argument like to use is convictions of people claiming false rape, which is incredibly low, because it's something we don't generally charge people for even when we suspect it's false. That's the problem. That's why I explained, most false rapes are ignored and just dro…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 04:34 PM
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Because it's nearly impossible to measure. Like, it's a big issue. For instance, many legit rapes don't make it to court, just because it's a he-said-she-said scenario. It lacks evidence, so it's hard to prosecute. But at the same time, when a woman's story starts to unravel and it's clear she's lying, the authorities tend to just drop the case and move on as to not create a chilling effect. Both those events are categorized under the same thing: Accusations of rape that never made it to court. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 03:45 PM
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Yes.. People should also eat super healthy, work out, stay disciplined, and all this other idealisic stuff. I know I work out and eat healthy. SO I can say, "Pshh you guys are just lazy. It's so easy. Just flip a switch and you'll be working out". But that's not how reality works. We have culture and systems in place that make these things difficult for many people, where it's not just that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 03:15 PM
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Yeah we can sit around all day and talk about what "people should do" and what they "need to do". But that's just idealism. People aren't just going to wake up one day and be like "You know, we should all stop doing this!" It's like food, we SHOULD eat more healthy, and we SHOULD work out... But people never had this awakening moment. It wont happen neither. You sound like a boomer with the logic of like "Well what kids need to do these days is just X Y Z" -- like yeah yeah yeah, we can talk abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 03:13 PM

The original reply
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 12:07 PM

Then say that. I have no criticism of the argument, but rather the response by that user. They should make those arguments instead of snarky condescending quips.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 11:46 AM
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What, they used to be really useful. They used to work, when they actually focused on trying to match people. For instance, before OkCupid was bought out by Match, it's model and formula worked well. But that's not profitable. What's profitable is destroying the traditional dating market, making the only realistic option the apps, then charging insane prices.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 11:29 AM
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Yes that is the problem, but expecting people to collectively have some spiritual awakening, and drastically change things, isn't going to happen. It's like when people say, "Hey man, these complex geopolitical issues of scarcity aren't a problem, humanity just needs to learn to get along and care for each other, and all these problems go away." Like, yeah, okay, no shit... But that's not happening any time soon. We have to deal with the cards we're dealt, and navigate appropriately.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 11:28 AM
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The issue isn't that simple. First, capitalism has commodified and capitalized on relationships... To the point that it managed to create a pseudo monopoly by killing off most of it's competition, the traditional dating market. Most people now almost entirely rely on dating apps, so IRL finding partners is way way significantly harder than it was prior. It's not as simple as "Get off your phone and go with your friends". Maybe solipsitically you think that's true because maybe it's true for you.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 11:26 AM

I have little intellectual respect for people who just condense someone's entire post into just some snarky unfavorable redefinition of everything they just said. It's one of my top 10 Redditor annoyances. Like just a few days ago I wrote out a good 7 paragraph background on the complex geopolitical tensions and history involving Ukraine, the US, and Russia. I'm literally an expert in this area. And several users just basically responded with, "Oh so what you're saying is that Ukraine is respons…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 11:20 AM
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Is that homophobia? People find some things gross. It's not anti gay. It's just women like men, and gay sex is inherently not masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 09:45 PM
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Do you think that was the norm? Why do you guys have this idea that women back then were just miserable, beaten, raped, and unhappy?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:28 PM
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You know arranged marriages include men, and men were treated like property to go die in war, and effectively slaves who worked around the clock to provide for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:47 PM
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I don't understand how that's relevant to today though. We don't have to go back to using shock therapy neither, just because it was popular back then. The schools today are still designed around women and what they excel at. Which is why they outperform boys and are given less prescription drugs. Unless you think boys are just inherently more inferior to women and all it took was more direct integration for this to become obvious, clearly there are other variables at play. And most experts seem…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:28 PM
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Humans were treated poorly in general. You think men had it any better with, "Hey here's your wife, go start a family, and work your ass to the bone every day to make sure they don't starve to death. Then when the king wants, he's calling you into battle to likely go die."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:24 PM
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No, I never said that. Why are you jumping to another crazy extreme including child abuse all of a sudden? That's incredibly dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:16 PM
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This isn't true for most of society. It's a made up version of select parts of the world and history. But you can also look at select times in history where men also have it worse. But for the most part, men and women worked as a unit and team together... This idea that they were beaten up and passed around like livestock, was NOT the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:14 PM
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Well now it's men being discriminated against. Schools are designed for women, and boys are looked at as broken women...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:08 PM
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There are a lot of single men here who talked horribly about women and wonder why they are single... They just stand out. There are significantly more really nice kind men who aren't trying get angry or "take advantage of women" that are single as well. You just probably don't notice it because they are afraid to share how they feel, because every time they do women like yourself go, "Well logically it must actually be because you're a shitty person so women don't have to deal with your shitty b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:06 PM

Well you can't be ugly for it to apply lol :(
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:55 AM

What are you not understanding, snowflake? We get it. I'm speaking IN GENERAL! WHAT'S SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT??? It's like me saying, "Men don't like obese women" and you're like, "OMG EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT SOME MEN LOVE OBESE WOMEN!" Like yeah, okay, no shit... But we're speaking in general terms. Obviously people have different opinions, but what is the mean on the bell curve? That's what we're discussing. Not you're snowflake outlier opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:47 AM

When people speak about these things, it's inherent to presume we are speaking in general terms. Yeah, sure, I'm certain there are girls out there who "prefer smaller" but they are extreme outliers. We are speaking in general terms here, and in general women prefer large... And if given the option, women rather have larger than smaller, by a long shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:43 AM

Of course... You can say that about anything. But when all things are equal it obviously matters. Every hung guy I know, has just about every ex come around for casual sex whenever they are in between relationships. Every dude I know tells me that they'll literally just tell chicks their size when they are flirting and it just seals the deal for easy casual sex. Normal size guys don't get that. Sure being hot helps, but that's true with everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:41 AM

Here, I found it. Thanks for making my browser history creepy https://calcsd.info
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:09 AM

Maybe in like, South Korea or something. There is some website, I forgot what it's called, that compiled all the studies. The one where it was like 5.2 or whatever, was at the extreme end of the small side. Most studies bunched up around 5.5-6 What's even more interesting is most of those studies were done 20+ years ago. More recent ones have them being around 6-6.5... They suspect for some reason it's getting bigger for some unknown factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 11:58 PM

If it's large, she'll brag to all her friends. If it's small, she'll mock him. This is how guys learn about size mattering. When a guy is big, women will let everyone know and that guy is suddenly getting a bunch of attention. But size doesn't matter, when publicly speaking on it. But actions speak louder than words.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 11:55 PM

It's literally not. That's ONE study, and it's an extreme outlier study. Yet everyone likes to use that study as the gold standard because it makes men feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 11:52 PM

You think men have this conspiracy to upset and piss off women, or that men are just capitalists telling their audience what they want to hear to sell papers? They don't give a fuck either way. They publish it because women consume it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 11:51 PM

This is why women lie about preferring certain dick sizes... They learned real quick that admitting a large dick is amazing, because then guys get super insecure and self concious, while others start lashing out and getting angry. Which created this culture of women denying it matters at all, and it's just a thing guys care about, and women don't even think about. It's to help male egos from getting to that point. But that in effect, has created a whole generation of guys who genuinely think siz…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 11:48 PM
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I'm not intimidated, but I definitely think, "Oh women don't date down, so don't even bother." Which is a general truth. If she's making 250k a year, she's going to want an equally successful guy at least... And she can, because she's probably around them a lot. Obviously there are exceptions, especially with like, self employed FBA or whatever type of small business people. But generally speaking, it's just a waste of time. She'll end up running off with some richer guy because women date upwar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:58 AM
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I dissagree, because I've experienced it myself. When you really start getting your shit together in life, especially when you're doing really well compared to your peers, especially if you include fitness.... subtle anxieties you never even knew start going away, and your confidence goes way up. Slowly you just become calmer, more bold, and this confidence helps you deliver jokes much better, and the quickness of thought that comes with reduces anxiety you never knew you had, causes you to be m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 11:22 PM
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Huh? This is such a dumb take though. Do you think this is wrong? People commit crimes... Telling people to stay safe and avoid situations where bad people can commit crimes, isn't saying it's "natural" in the sense of "Yeah that's just life, men like to rape!" It's just presenting the reality that bad people exist and people should be wise to avoid bad people. It goes across all parts of life, and not just rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 12:16 PM
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You also need to understand who's saying this. It's often some 19 year old fat recluse chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:41 AM
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tailwinds vs headwinds. Everyone sees every other person's tailwind but ignores their headwinds, while they only see their own headwinds while ignoring their tailwinds. People just see other people's advantages and ignore their own, while ignoring their challenges while only focusing on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:43 AM
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There is like a mountain of research and data into this already. It's not even up for debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:42 AM

Definitely agree... These people also are under the false assumption that there, in that moment one side is supposed to go, "Oh wow, you're right, my entire perspective I've spend months to years forming, is wrong. I've realized that in this very moment of this engagement!" That's not how it works. You are never ever going to convince someone then and there in that moment. People's opinions are complex, nuanced, and often tied to a sense of identity. It doesn't happen in that moment. It happens …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 09:24 AM

Yup... The problem is the conversation happens and people don't like it and may be losing. But over time that side of the conversation will lose out, but you have to allow the conversation to hash out. It's just people freak out when they see losses in the debate and rush to just censor it, which always backfires. But a good example of "letting the argument play out" was with creationists vs evolutionists. Initially in that culture war the creationists were winning, due to the amount of religiou…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 08:10 AM

The far left tried it with the MAGA crowd and anti-woke crowd. They thought if they could just censor them, then they would "win" the argument and it would go away. Instead, all it did was isolate them, push them into echo chambers, while giving them a victim status. It just empowered their message and made them feel validated. It backfired just as expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 07:41 AM
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Good for you. I'm in Europe so I don't have to deal with the fatty issue any longer. So I feel you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 12:09 AM
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Well yeah, because America has too many fat chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:53 PM
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Try it out. It's pretty dope. It's like a butthole but gets wet and goes further.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:38 PM
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Super tight vaginas too, which is a nice bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:20 PM
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I'm pointing out that men routinely go way below the set bar when they've had enough to drink and most of the ladies have gone home.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 09:05 PM
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I take it you haven't had a lot to drink before?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 07:41 PM
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I mean men fuck fat chicks all the time... But we wont date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:51 PM
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You're right. But it's also relative. It's like how guys in prison talk about how after a few years that trans lady starts looking really good. Men will lower their standards unconciously driven by the desire to reproduce, to go down when options become extremely scarce. Hence why we've all fucked a few whales in our days after hours when the bar is closing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 05:08 PM
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Yeah obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 05:06 PM
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Of course... I agree. I think that has a lot to do with it. She's getting trapped with a loser if she dates down. But a guy can date down in tough times when options are extremely limited, and still do relatively fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:25 PM
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When things get desperate, I do think men will start being willing to go downward. I don't think women have even close to the same propensity for this. Hence why there are so many cat ladies in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:31 PM

Of course, I agree... There's obviously a balancing act, and we're figuring it out. Completely non-emotion is obviously bad, but for men, being too emotional, is also bad. Right now we're trying to figure it out... But society seems to have settled on historically, generally speaking, being less emotional is a safer bet than being more emotional. Less emotional men generally will be more productive and able to find partners than men who end up being too emotional. Men who are too emotional lack …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 01:32 PM

Here's the thing though... I think it also evolved for good purpose. I don't think it's inherently wrong that we have this standard. Men have a far different social expectation and standard than women. Stability and resilience is important in life if a man wants to succeed. I think this is why nearly every culture discourages young boys from being "too soft", because they don't want them to grow up, get out into the world, and end up being too fragile to get ahead as man. It's not to say men CAN…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 01:19 PM

I did not want to hear about his feelings when they were painful or negative, that I did not want my image of the strong man truly challenged by learning of his weaknesses and vulnerabilities. Here I was, an enlightened feminist woman who did not want to hear my man speak his pain because it revealed his emotional vulnerability. I think this here is the core of the subconscious reason as to why women shut down and neglect male feelings. It ruins the fantasy that their man is stable, in control, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 12:47 PM
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It was because jello, before "Jello", the cheap easy thing we know of today, required a TON of work. It was an elite rich person thing that required a long expensive process. But once the cheap version came out, commoners rushed to use it and use with everything, to mimic the upper class version. Which killed off the appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:13 PM
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There's nothing "fair" to be about. It's just a normal cyclical thing. Neither good nor bad. But from what I'm seeing, it seems like owning tiny homes, going off grid, etc, is the more luxury "idealized" thing. Suburbs suck, being part of the rat race is soul sucking, etc... So people ENJOY tiny homes the more you go up in social class. Forgo the objects of hedonism and unnecessary abundance, and get a small home with a garden, animals, and use your money to travel and do hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:09 PM
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It's a generational values thing... They were raised VERY poor... Like people often had dirt floors in many homes growing up. So when they got a normal house, this was seen as winning in life. It's why things like Jello molds with fruit and chicken and all sorts of weird shit was put into it, because as children that was considered a luxury item So when they grew up they achieved all these things that they wanted when poor. It's why boomers love gaudy ass shit like gold toilets... Why this curre…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:17 PM
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It must be really exhausting to be wary of things like that which have such a tiny small probability. It's just an exhausting and weird brain gear you put yourself in when you produce senses of concern and worry of such infinitely small threats. It's just part of this larger culture of fear that has everyone worried about everything all the time. Seriously, sounds terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 01:54 AM

This is why I dont resonate a lot with this south east asia or eastern europe thing. Like I'm all for leaving the US to go elsewhere since the dating market is WAY better... But those locations, it just seems like you're finding lower socioeconomic class who are inherently only going to see your status entirely through money Like there was a young hotty I was trying to get with, who was kind of hood... And no matter what I did, she was just naturally drawn to the former felon or former gang memb…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:55 PM
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https://imgur.com/kluTMBl This is mine right now The first, is my favorite. A girl doing yoga postures in front of her mirror, talking about how crazy it is that yoga has gotten her enough "support" in just a few years to own a home, thanks to people subscribing to her only fants. The second to last is a chick with an intentional camel toe doing a backward roll where her crotch is center focused... Also, an OF model.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:09 PM
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It's the shorts that they inject on the front page... The normal videos are fine boring shit. But the shorts are 50% thirst traps. Why? Because they are the ONLY shorts I've ever clicked lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:31 PM
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Yep, I have to do the same. YouTube is the worst, because they have the most extreme thirst traps, and you click on it once, and they'll keep ramping it up, so I just straight up avoid it at all costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:28 PM
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I used to miss pre pandemic reddit subs... It was literally just hoes in it for the love of the game and nothing else. Now it's just constant shit to funnel into their OF.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:27 PM

Hows that racially charged? Can we not mention black people any more? Pointing out that a culture has a red pill element to it isn't "charged".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:31 AM
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It's pretty out there for your average Redditor. Going to an actual black rap concert would probably be too much. Drake is a good introduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:47 PM
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I once had to live in an absolute dump, terrible white trash neighborhood for work for a few months. I genuinely don't care about these things so my job found the opportunity perfect for me. (Tall, strong, street smart, get to know everyone). When I was originally there I thought, I'd be a king of sorts. A dude with education, job, and money, should be high status? Nope. I wasn't in their class. All these chicks cared about their immediate peers the most... They cared about the successful drug d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:47 PM

The black community is the deepest red you'll ever encounter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:40 PM
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I saw some Reddit text post where the guy was calling out his gf for being rude for not referring to him as her boyfriend. One thing that stood out was he wasn't focusing on "Are you trying to hide this from other guys there or something? Trying to avoid a weird situation if they find out I'm your bf?" Instead his focus was "are you embarrassed to be dating me? Do you not want other people to know you're dating me because you're embarassed?" Dude repeated this multiple times. No one in the comme…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:20 AM
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Huh? No of course... I'm just saying men wouldn't care if you're a loser or not so long as you're attractive. They'll still bang you. You, as a woman, you wont bang a loser even the guy is attractive, generally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:50 PM
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Yeah, if the guy is a loser, it doesn't bring on much confidence that he can provide and protect, which is why women HATE losers. It's the antithesis to their mating strategy. Chicks who end up with losers either resent them, best the can get, or have some weird wiring to want to care for them like a child. But again, the male mating strategy at our core, is the spray and pray. So we are much more forgiving if she has terrible character flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:21 PM
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I'm talking about things in general. Yes we know, everyone is different. But generally, as a whole, this is a clear divergence between the two. I shouldn't have to clarify this because it should go without saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:11 PM
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No, not just safety. For instance, if a guy is fine, but a total pushover who lets everyone walk all over, and super anxious, etc... Not really a creep or violent threat, but more of a "lame loser who everyone makes fun of." Woman are still going to be repulsed. It's more about the guy internally being attractive, where guys don't care much about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:10 PM
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This is a key difference between men and women... Many men, if it's just sex, don't care about her personally. Annoying, rude, weird? Doesn't matter. If she's attractive, it's all good for a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:56 PM
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OH come on dude... I wouldn't go THAT far... Stereotypical instagram hoes, for sure... But most women just want someone in a similar income range, slightly above, attractive, and stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:02 AM
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Yeah I find it really odd when someone will, say go through their partners phone and find something that's her being honest, that really hurts him (Like, she prefers large dicks, slept with tons of people, or used to be into crazy kinks) and people will be like "Dude, that's YOUR fault! Don't go snooping around and get upset when you find out something you rather not have known!" Like is that how these people live? Like why would you NOT want to know things and know the truth? I just don't under…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:00 PM
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Same, I met so many quality women there. We'd have long conversations over text, get to know each other, then set a date. Having the algorithm pick people on formulas around success was super useful, instead of today's where it's just rolling the dice to waste your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:46 PM
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Have you been in a relationship? Men may not go out doing chick hobbies, but we'll sit there and let them explain their horoscope with deep interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:09 AM

I genuinely think it's due to dating apps and a lot of women thinking they are dating some hot dude who sees them ever week or two, when he's really jungling three chicks. I know about 3 guys who do well on the apps (honestly, not even great looking, but I think high quality pics go a long way). All of them are rapid fire dating chicks all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:26 AM
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Every time an app comes around that's not designed to suck, they get bought out and made to suck I really miss the OG OkCupid before that dating app company bought them out and just turned it back into Tinder 2.0
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:52 AM
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Red pill is literally the dating and relationship advice all men would tell other men, just packaged differently. Literally comedians have been and still do, talk about the very same concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:05 AM
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Of course... Are you under the impression there aren't ever outliers? I thought everyone here understands that it goes without saying we are speaking in a general sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:06 PM
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Great argument. Hope to discuss again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:01 PM
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And I'm dissagreeing with that. In my long life of experience, I think most women who have a lot of casual sex, are hoping for a relationship and are using sex to get the guy closer. It's a good way to stand out from the rest and get more time with the guy. It's a mating strategy. One which other women hate, and why they slut shame so much, because they see how her easy access to sex, is attracting a lot of men, creating competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:56 PM
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You don't think it's because women like sex? Women do like sex sure... But I think random casual sex is not very enjoyable and they are using it to get a foot in the door. Them enjoying it or not has little to do with it. I sale something at my job I really enjoy and like, but ultimately at the end of the day, I'm trying to sell it to you not just because I enjoy it, but because I want money. Sex is no different... Women like sex but they know they can offer sex to get men to pay attention to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:22 PM
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Many women don't want to admit this to themselves, but sex is their foot in the door for a relationship. It's to get the guy to keep staying around. Hence why so many men are put off by them because they are constantly trying to get guys and guys keep rejecting them. It's the female version of a guy that's desperate and no woman wants to hook up with. The amount of boss women who just want NSA sex and no partner, is much lower than media paints it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:59 PM
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Yes I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:18 PM
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He was a run of the mill ivy league chub... Nothing special.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:12 PM
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I'm talking about JD Vance... He was from a super poor background, and really just got out of the military (granted into Ivy, but still). Also, I think most men are perfectly fine getting less than a hotty, and so are women. It's just when it comes to casual sex, which they get way easier, yeah, they are going to opt for hotties, the same way you would if given the chance. But I was never a top tier good looking guy, yet I managed to slay a lot because I was social and knew how to have fun. In f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:44 AM
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Dude Trump's vice president was a dork as looking fat kid, and pulled a hotty. Y'all just have self esteem issues. If I had to guess, I'd bet that's it not that you're not really really really good looking, and more because you guys are also awkward and don't know how to talk and have fun around women. It's less about you not being hot enough, and more about you having anxiety and having no chill. I'm almost certain of this. I bet all the guys complaining about looks this hard, also coincidental…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:21 AM
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If she's still trying to hook up with you, with her intentions because she likes you and hopes it'll lead to something else, yes it's wrong. I mean, I'll still do it, because I want easy sex. But still, it is wrong by the guy. And I understand why most guys would disagree, because most guys don't want to admit what they are doing for easy sex is morally wrong. But it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 09:05 AM
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Yes. But at least I wont deny I'm taking advantage of her. A better person would keep their distance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:55 AM
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Reminds me of shady sales people who rip people off and are like, "Not my fault! They signed the contract! They are just idiots!"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:55 AM
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You avoid them and cut them out of your life. You don't just keep picking up the phone, you don't keep going to hang out with them, you don't accept their offerings. You treat them like anyone else you don't want to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:46 AM
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still comes at you with stuff like trying to do you favours or buy you things, that's on him at that point. Absolutely disagree. It still makes you a shitty person knowing this guy is doing all these things because he's romantically interested, and you just keep allowing it. You're allowing him to engage in futility and waste his time. A good person sees this and avoids the situation all together. Just because someone wants to be an idiot, you shouldn't be part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:14 AM

As a tall guy... I totally get it though. It's obvious they are treated poorly and get a lot of disadvantages. People try to gaslight them and say it's not a big deal and it's all about confidence and blah blah blah... But that's simply not true. I know how women feel about taller guys and how they treat them different. And I know how differently they treat smaller guys, and I don't care how much people will insist it doesn't matter and it's all in their head. It's just another version of the in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:52 AM
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I mean you could attribute that to outliers... So yeah, SOME women can't detect it, so they fall into traps. Or you can attribute it to evolution where natural selection for whatever reason, favors some of these traits on a primal level so they find coevolved traits attractive that come bundled with those traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:07 PM
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Yes, because you now see yourself as up to everyone elses standards. You look at yourself, knowing others find you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:36 PM
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In my experience, very few people are actually unattractive. They just don't know how to present themselves. Your fashion, hair, etc, is supposed to be designed around your face and body to optimize how it looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:31 PM
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I don't think anyone is mislead. Guys lie to themselves thinking they personality/money their way into higher status. Which they can... Only to find out, it's much harder than just hitting the gym and learning how to dress and style yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:35 PM
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Okay, but you're literally knowingly and intentionally making shit up. It's not the same. Someone's witness account is vastly different than some random hyperbolic fake thing you made up out of intellectual dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:58 PM
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I think it's wayyyy less than 5050... At best, maybe 5050 with women who publicly around them say they don't mind, to avoid conflict, but talk mad shit when they leave. That said, you are right. Definitely a rise in sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:26 PM
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Dude, you must be a blast at parties. Do you just avoid discussions about things? "Bro, Lord of the Rings is the best movie of all time!" Then you jump in, "WHATT? If you're going to make a factual statement like that, I DEMAND peer reviewed research to back up your claims!!!!" You can say whatever you want... OP is giving his opinion on things based on how he views the world. He thinks, from his perspective, things are X Y Z, and is making an argument for it. If you disagree, hash it out. That'…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:12 PM
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I'm saying there isn't any hypocrisy. Not many women ACTUALLY say that. Most women think it's fucking trashy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:06 PM
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Sex with hookers, for most normal, adjusted men... Is not really great. It's the real sex addicts and porn sick who actually enjoy it the most. Some older guys really like it simply because they just want to fuck a hot body behind their wives backs... But I'd say the bulk of these guys are just extremely perverted always thinking about sex. The typical lonely guy who just wants to have sex to have sex, is going to be extremely disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:02 PM
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I wouldn't even want to befriend one beyond casual acquaintances who say hi at parties or something. It's a whole personality, energy, and lifestyle that comes packaged up with that type of person.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:59 PM
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I don't know any women who say "get that bag." They too are like, "Ewww you're trashy, stay at an arms length away from me and I'm only hanging out with you because I didn't know Steve was bringing you around." You guys really think most women also normalize sex work? You know, most women aren't the far left. That's the only group who tries to normalize it, and even with them, actions speak louder than words. They'll SAY they are okay with it, but in practice, still avoid people like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:56 PM
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I see men who pay for sex the same way I see women who just care about money. They are both effectively only concerned about the transactional nature of intimacy, and it's trashy as shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:54 PM
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Yeah, nothing less than peer reviewed academic publications please... Heaven forbid people discuss the world from their perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:11 AM
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I don't know if I agree on it being projection or some secret hate for themselves. I know people would like to say that as a feel good response to bullying or something. Because I know when I'd do it, it wasn't necessarily because any of that. It was probably to due with status, trying to knock someone down, or if they are down, keeping them down... Keeping rank on the status line so to speak. Kind of a social way to maintain a pecking order. Or, as a tactic to get back at someone you don't like…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:03 PM
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I just sort of realized something, in my 30s, recently... That I no longer even feel comfortable talking crap on people. Even if they deserve it. Mostly because there is NOTHING to gain out of it. I'm living my life and they are living theirs. If I don't like someone, rarely is there ever any benefit to just drag and tear that person down. Not only that, but it WILL get back to them, and it WILL create more drama and bullshit in your life. I realized how I used to talk crap on people in my 20s, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:48 PM
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That may be true... Or it may be selection bias... But I never hear of it. Dude's who are able to sleep around a lot, generally have a lot of options, so I don't think it's that big of a deal for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 09:54 AM
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Right, but hopefully any male slut will understand that they're shooting themselves in the foot by going down that path themselves IF they want a virgin/low N wife. Yes they absolutely do, and wont get upset if a woman considers that a red line. Luckily for these guys it probably wont matter much anyways because women care WAY less and guys like that have plenty of options anyways. But if a less promiscuous woman wont do that, I don't think men will bitch. They definitely don't bitch at the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:51 AM
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I still don't get it... It's not saying that person is bad for relationships, but rather, just not preferred for your own relationship. People can't control what they like. What you're asking is the same as asking a guy to just be okay with a fat girlfriend... To just get horny and excited for her. It's often outside his control. Guy's feel the same way about this issue. It's not like they can switch it off and suddenly feel comfortable and happy dating a girl that has a huge past like that if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:48 AM
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I mean, it's not judging someone morally, it's just saying "Yeah I don't find women who sleep around a lot, attractive." It's not saying they are bad people, but rather, just not someone they find attraction in. No different than it's not bullying fat women to say you prefer fit women. And there is nothing wrong with that guy. Again, I'm just saying at one point she may be into a big dicked jock, but not interested in that same type of person to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:35 AM
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You can have conflicting desires for different reasons. The same way you would like to pig out on dirty food, but not someone who does the same. Ideally, I'm sure the fat guy would like the fit girl Or I'm sure many women wanna hook up with a super hot big dicked jock but her idea of a husband is more of a tame husband. Guys are no different... They'll like to sleep around and have fun, but what they personally find optimal as the best suited to be a wife, and not a hook up, is someone who hasn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:19 AM

Lol what? Dude... Don't tell me to "calm down". What a rude thing to say. I'm done talking to you in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 12:06 PM

Yes, because men are much more likely to be in situations where violent crime can happen. If women lived life just like men, and did what they did, they'd be bigger victims. But women avoid those situations. Don't sit here and act like a man is more in danger minding his own business late at night by himself than a woman is. You know this, but you're being dishonest because you wanna insist that men are actually more at threat than women. MRA bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 12:01 PM

What statistics? Yes men are more involved with violence, because men are put into more violent situations by choice. Women avoid danger much more than men, and avoid things like crime, direct intentional conflict, etc... Just because men are more likely to commit violence and crime, doesn't mean men by default are more likely to experience danger. It's just that women are much much much more avoidant of those situations. You can't tell me that a woman walking alone late at night is more safe th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:52 AM

Yes, but women are absolutely at way more danger than men. I also go around, even in bad neighborhoods, not really afraid at all. I'm tall, fit, and know how to handle myself. If it's a REALLY bad neighborhood, as a white dude, yeah, I may have some problems... Maybe. But still the odds of it are WAY lower than if I was a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:15 AM

Men ARE safer. Just because you experienced an event where you weren't safe, doesn't mean men are on average as unsafe as women. This is such a ridiculous logic you're using, no offense, but come on man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:13 AM
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The OG days were when Reddit hated everything about the space because they were being completely honest and saying the things a lot of people didn't want to hear, which is why it was so popular. Then it got monetized by click bait and now it's trash... Today it just frames every woman as outliers. Social media obsessed gold diggers and OF sluts, which is FAR from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:18 AM
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Bottom-tier women's behaviors (sleeping around, one night stands, instant monkey branching, no pair bonding skills, ranting on twitter about how they want all men dead, rapant cheating, high body counts, being obsessed with money or status), are the way most women behave. These are literally behaviors men have been teaching younger men to look out for ages... Ffs, yes, some men are paranoid losers, but that's on THEM. However, vetting a wife is hard and comes with consequences if you pick wrong.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:02 AM
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No, I'm saying it's better to be viewed as having some sort of value, even if it's an incubator, rather than absolutely no value at all, like trash you can casually throw out. How is this hard to understand? Would you rather have it where society is structured to not care about you? To not have programs for you, to send you to wars, to let you fail, to allow you to be homeless, to just let you fail and squander into suicide? Would you rather have society care nothing of you and insist you have n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:29 AM
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If 19 was your prime... I'm so sorry :(
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:53 PM
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He's also 19... Give him 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:53 PM
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Where y'all seeing these wives that cook and clean after their men? How do I get me some of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 08:51 PM
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At least society values you as an incubator at least, and will go out of it's way to protect and provide for you. Men don't even have that. They'll just let them die on the side of the street. They are disposable. Just look at homelessness, mens issues, war, suicide, mental health... No one gives a shit about men. There are no programs, no social norms, nothing. Men are sink or swim. Many of those men sinking would LOVE nothing more than to have SOME value society deems worthy enough to prevent …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:35 AM
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I was absolutely blown away when I found out M2F trans follow the same exact male criminal patterns. Like it's a perfect overlap. But what really took the wool off my eyes, is it's something like 50% of M2F in prison have a sexual offense... Compared to the general male population of like 13% or biological female population of 8%. Then it started to make a lot of sense that while many trans people are legit trans, there is probably a high amount, and growing, of people who are into it for sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:45 AM

It's really wild... It makes dating insanely hard. Every single chick I go on a date with, is actively talking to multiple dudes. Every one of them. Ironically, they all also complain about how guys are never serious these days and just sleep with them and leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:42 AM
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I really appreciate your post because you perfectly highlight my point. People don't even recognize their privileges most of the time... Just their headwinds. As you just showed us. Completely unaware of the benefits of being a woman, you are laser focused on the struggles. I'm not going to go down this path, but I'm sure another will gladly take the baton on this one. But as a man, there are countless things men look at towards women and go, "God... It's so much easier being a woman. I wish I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:36 AM
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You think that's the only benefit women have over men? This is exactly what I mean... Most women aren't even aware of their privileges and benefits, because they live in it like water, normalizing it entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:51 AM
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People tend only to see the privileges of others and not their challenges, while see their own challenges and not their own privileges. More often than not, when you see people debate feminists and stuff, it's almost entirely because the feminist just doesn't get it. She doesn't see all the challenges men face every day... She only sees all these male benefits in life. And then the men getting angry because they are like, "You're complaining about X Y Z, but you completely ignore this massive li…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 08:21 AM
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No because I'm single now, and clearly notice a massive shift in the last 5-7 years. Like jarringly radical shift in these social dynamics. Most young people don't see it, because they aren't aware of what it was like. We were experiencing the decline of close social networks, but zoomers are experiencing a hard deterioration where such social activity is far less common.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:10 PM
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Seeing Reddit advice vs normal real life advice and experience, is sooooo weird and starkly different. You can just tell it's a bunch of dorks with limited experience, regurgitate "niceties". Like, according to female Redditors: they actually prefer it when they see their bf cry, the best sex they ever had was with a small penis and actually hate anything beyond average, only disgusting creeps have a problem with a girl who slept with 40 dudes, being a sex worker is literally no different than w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:34 PM
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Obama years were my prime. That said, cold approaching is even HARDER today. I'm single and I found a massive vibe shift. Women are far less open to it. People go out with friends, but it's very insular in general
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:16 AM
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I dissagree... As someone who's been around with quite a few women, I'd say like 20-30% were with women I cold approached. The overwhelming majority were from social circles, or my social circle interacting with another and hooking up from there. I think that's the issue with your generation. You're all terminally online. You party less, drink less, and socialize less.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:01 AM
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Is it? I think the demographic is mainly rich guys who only care about sex. I heard a relationship therapist talk about why rich guys are into these "escort looking women" so much while the general population is general not. Mostly because those type of guys can buy anything and everything they want in the world. They don't care for a woman who is intellectually challenging, a good mother, or creative cook. They can buy all that. What they really just want at the end of the day, is a woman who c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 11:11 PM
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Playing an instrument, singing, and classical dancing. Anything that artistically exposes the feminine will put me into a trance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:54 PM
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I think it's contextual in the sense of, "Not a 35 year old account who's fat and boring".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:52 AM
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Yeah, I think he's thinking of the average 40 year old being some fucking loser, sneaker wearing, out of shape, accountant. LOL I am late 30s and had a few dates with a hot as shit 19 year old. Too young for me (she lied about her age), and I'm nothing special. I'm not really good looking, I'm just not fat and know basic fashion. I suspect in their world, they're thinking that middle aged fat dad sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:54 AM
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Of course, we aren't talking about the average though... He's just saying men who are 35 with their shit together, could get an attractive 22 year old, if he so wanted. Which I think is kinda true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:47 AM
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The hobbies thing this sub, and Reddit, and every other dork space goes on about is the default stupid useless advice. It's like the "get counseling" answer to whenever someone has issues. As you noticed, reality is, you're going to go do "hobbies" and it's going to just be a few chicks who are mostly taken or not interested into anyone there. If there are some attractive ones, most dudes have swung and failed at this point, and chances are, these other guys are hotter and more interesting than …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:01 AM
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Desiring something in someone of which you don't posses doesn't make you a hypocrite. Why do people keep insisting otherwise? Attraction isn't something you can logic away. If you like X characteristics in another person, it doesn't mean you have to practice them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:31 AM

It's more about your hostility and aggression around it. Sometimes people are wrong, or only partially right. It's just life. People aren't going to go around fact checking every single thing they do. They don't have time for that. It's an unrealistic snobbish expectation. And in my experience, usually an expectation that's tactically weaponized.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:20 PM

I mean, I don't really care either way, but I do see at fault divorces having value and think we could find some balance here. When you enter into a marriage, it should be considered a big deal and something worth working really hard for and pressured to hold a higher standard. Instead, we've kind of made marriage just "advanced dating". Since there is no real sacrifice made on the exit, there isn't much thought put into starting it or trying to work through it. If we punished things like infide…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:18 PM

Why are you so aggressive... JFC christ man. Sometimes people are wrong, and you go through accussing him of spreading misinformation and shit. Welcome to the internet dude. I know you're 12 and just got access to an iPad, but sometimes people are wrong. Relax. Calm down. It's not a big fucking deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:15 PM
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I mean, yeah I can see friend groups not wanting to pick sides because that's an interpersonal issue not really involving them. Marital affairs are generally expected to be kept private and people stay out of. So staying neutral seems expected across the board, except for close friends. I think people care if they are a cheater though, just that generally speaking, it's what kind of cheating. Like is the guy an asshole or is there two sides to the story? Maybe she was just a shitty wife not appr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:09 PM
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Dude wtf are you talking about? Maybe number 1 is correct, because we have mostly no fault divorce states, which I think are fine. But everything else is dead fucking wrong. I had to laugh at the "kids wont even care".... Like how disconnected from reality are you? Kids care the most more than anyone. Real life isn't living like a super rich person which has a whole different slew of issues. They pick their partners on different standards than the most of us and their entire lives have a whole d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:43 AM

HOw would being a pick me girl be a bad thing? Don't guys flock to these chicks? I never hear of pick mes complain about meeting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:23 AM
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Natural selection is still in the context of it's environment. Society has evolved to also create beneficial frameworks. In this case, most men still reproduce... But they are competing for the quality of the woman. I mean, most men can get an unfuckable fat chick if they want. But if they want someone decent they need to work really hard for that genetic access.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:20 PM
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Natural selection does this because it benefits society. It's what drives men to keep pushing forward and trying to achieve. If men were treating with children gloves like women, then innovation would plummet. We need men put under extreme pressure to take large risks, innovate, and compete as hard as possible. And as a result, we have all this shit around us.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:08 PM
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“being a supportive partner and trying to meet your spouse’s needs”. Such useless nonsense noise. When women say this, men just look at this like one of those ink blot tests. It means nothing, has no value, and is up for interpretation. So recommending that, is as pointless as telling someone to "Be a good person" to find more partners or "work hard" to become more successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:27 PM
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Oh of course, that's why it pisses me off. You have young girls who aren't yet wise to men yet... But as a guy, I see exactly what's going on. We all know the game where women generally want to like a guy first before having sex, but also don't want to be seen as a slut because the guy wont come back. So guys adapt by BS'ing and pretending like we are super sex positive and non-judgemental. So while we know she's interested in us, we just want sex, so we have to pretend like we wont judge her wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:08 AM
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It's harder than people realize... If it was truly that easy, many many many more people would be doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:00 PM
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Yeah, there is a guy in our extended friend group like this. He is genuinely good looking, but kind of that guy who like, was in prison, found god, and now makes everything about deep personal spiritual shit... Which women love at first, as it makes them think this attractive "bad boy" is all deep and in touch with his feelings. So chicks fall for it at first, and the dude just goes woman to woman, with the same schtick where he tries to start serious deep conversations, then get them 1 on 1 and…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:44 PM
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I mean, they are in the same league for all intents and purposes... So she's not interested in the money, but the status and power.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:25 PM
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I mean, that's true for literally everything. No one is perfect, but we all have an ideal perfect ideal woman in our head, which no one will EVER achieve. We're all settling to some degree or another. What matters is finding a partner you truly love and are happy to be with, even if she doesn't have perfect perky B cups, or whatever. These woman are still very much so in love with their partners just because they aren't the embodiment of Adonis.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:23 PM

The internet is a more powerful tool for giving you the social juice. It's like heroine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:09 PM
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But they honestly don't. Only on dating apps where it's a sea of easy dick. IRL, where the grass is, most women don't give a shit. Most guys I know aren't 6ft tall and all have gfs. But that said, I do get your point. It's still a woman's market even when they are fat. It shouldn't be that way, but men need to get laid and will lower their standards. Capitalism destroyed dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 09:44 PM
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When a majority of women are NOT in a healthy range, society is going to call you an asshole for outright rejecting 65% of people right out the gate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:35 PM
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Why does it matter anyways? Is he not allowed to have his own standards? He could be 55 or 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:23 PM
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I think it's the sex worker part too... For some reason, these Redditors think it's absolutely unacceptable to not be into a chick who's daily life revolves around other men fucking or jerking off to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:22 PM
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If you're commenting that you're constantly getting banned maybe you are the issue not your points of view but you. I just need to chime in here.... No Reddit has a REALLY bad problem with this. Especially before. It's recently gotten a little better, but it's still bad. This site's moderators are ran by extreme political activist losers who see it as their duty to go around "cleaning up" wrong think. The most minor of things will get you banned in multiple subreddits. Luckily the culture war is…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 05:09 PM
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Yeah exactly, this is most women I know. Yeah, they aren't banging total strangers they met just that night... It's people they got to know, either chatted a lot on social, or hung out a few times as friends at social events, and now they are having sex. It may not be an "official" relationship, but she's having sex every now and then with this guy, and possibly a few others. It's just not complete strangers. Like there is a 22 year old I know who's banged like 25 guys, and she doesn't think tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:16 PM
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I also used to think this, until recently started dating again, and most women are hooking up with a guy on the side. They may not be forward about it, but they have someone. Young girls, especially, think it's normal to just bang right out the gate. Like just yesterday I was talking to a woman who was like "Yeah I went an ENTIRE YEAR without sex!!!" Like it was this massive L on her part. It seems like the pattern is, single women are hooking up with dudes pretty quickly and easily (or with FWB…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:11 PM
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Sure, it exists. No one is denying that... But it's not even close to consumed at the scale men consume it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:29 AM
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Sure, women have their own general things... But if you look at porn, the stuff catered to men, is generally much worse than what women are reading in a book. Some of the most popular male porn is violent and borderline illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:55 AM
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I mean it's not really a mystery any more. I figured it is common knowledge at this point, is it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:20 PM

I don't think women want more casual sex than they are having. I think most women want meaningful, romantic sex, with people they love. I think most of them into casual sex are also looking for that. It's just, the way the game is designed at the moment, creates all sorts of issues. If anything, it's women complaining about how much all these guys off Tinder just want sex, or guys just have sex and bounce. They aren't fans of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 04:39 PM
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It doesn't have to be on the bell curve, but more, the data points do divide between genders. Men, on average, are more sexually degenerate than woman. I'd even say by a significant amount. The distribution tables are probably very clearly divided on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:33 AM
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Again we speak in general bell curves... More men are going to clump up in the degenerate side of the spectrum than women in a pretty distinguishable way. For instance, you can go to a late night porn shop with live porn, and you'll see 10 dudes jacking off and maybe 1 weird ass woman. She being there doesn't change the fact that this is a a degenerate male thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 06:57 AM
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Relative to women, yes, men are way more degenerate, desperate, and deplorable when it comes to sex. Go to some more seedy parts of the sex world, and it's just an endless see of perverted men exploiting broken women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 12:53 AM
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I know tons. They dominate my industry. I know them all really well, and I think this idea of "putting on a happy front", is sort of played up justifications. The same way people will insist that all those ideal 1950s relationships really had an abusive husband where the woman was stuck there. Which sucks when the relationship isn't good, because you get those situations. Like, yeah, sure it happens... But over all, they genuinely are really stable and happy family units. "Haters" will point out…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:29 PM
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Alcohol. Alcohol is the variable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 03:28 PM
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It's so weird, isn't it? From what I understand, the single women just aren't going out.... And generally, are just using dating apps to find partners. Being single in your 30s is especially odd, because since most people are coupled up, you're the outlier. No one likes to admit it, but there is a subtle judgement made on women who are starting to age a bit, still been single for a while, going to parties. It just reaffirms this sort of "party girl" stereotype of "why she's single". I also find …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 11:23 AM
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Then that's obviously not an ideal traditional relationship. People in non-traditional marriages are also unhappy all the time as well. But people like to frame it as traditional marriages are situations where the woman is trapped as a financial slave for the man, where they all want to escape and be independent and free etc etc... But yeah, if you're a woman in that situation, that sucks. But it doesn't mean that's the standard or goal. The same way women in non-traditional marriages feeling tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 09:32 AM
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LIke you said, the "trad wife" picture is so misleading. I think it's just a strawman created to attack, because the affluent 1950s romanticized version, is just so comical and easy to attack. I think most people, when they think trad wife, aren't thinking drugged up house wives who just say yes sir and no sir while serving the family food and pumping out babies - and slapping around when she steps out of line. Though that's the characterization people are attacking. When i think trad, as I beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 11:57 PM
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Yeah, women like financial security... And since socially men already feel more drive to succeed and become successful, women have the privilege of being able to seek a man with more resources so she doesn't have to work as hard or feel stressed from potential economic problems. But since men are already naturally driven in this arena, they don't feel much interest in valuing a woman who can do the same. They are already doing it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:24 PM
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I promise you, having common interests matters long term... A whole lot. Remember, you'll be eating dinner together for the next several decades, every single night. You're going to go on dates, and do stuff. This all becomes so much easier and fun, when the other person understands you at your level, shares similar interest, and wants to do similar things. It gives you much more to talk about, plan, and be together.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:13 PM
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Nailed it. I was just talking about this the other day. Status games change with time... College and right out of college, when everyone's poor, status is defined mostly by social ability. Girls are still partying, and not taking things serious. So the status game that's immediate to them, is almost entirely social. I'd bet a lot of money, he's awkward to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:58 PM
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Yes, but that's the female version of an approach. You're talking about the male version of an approach, which is very blunt and on the head. Women are nuanced and smooth. They don't come in acting like a dude, but like a woman. And that's why many men don't pick up on it. But for all intents and purposes, a woman you hardly know who decides to start gravitate in your area opening herself up for you to hit off a conversation, is how women do their pickup.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:42 PM
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A hung guy who is also good at sex, is generally held in high regard. Yes, being hung alone isn't enough, but being hung and knows what he's doing? I think most women find that as a good thing. In fact, a rare thing... So rare, you keep them around just in case you're in between relationships and want to get some of that rare thing on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:09 PM
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What? I'm just saying, if you're getting tons of women throwing themselves at you, and you still can't find love... That's abnormal. People with tons of women thrown at them easily find love if they want it. That's all I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 04:19 PM
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Jesus fucking Christ... You're on Reddit for starters. But even then, if you're that attractive and successful, having tons of women throw themselves at you, maybe it's YOU who has the problem forming connections. You have enough options available, it shouldn't be hard to find someone. At some point, you need to start accepting that you're in an extremely fortunate position, and most people in that position aren't struggling with what you are. Maybe you're looking for perfect, fantasy, story boo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 03:52 PM
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Yes, but that's what these guys are obsessed about. Because they are gooners obsessed with sex. The guy just being chill isn't getting him casual sex with ex gfs... They guy only gets that when he's chill AND hung. Women aren't just fucking dudes for being chill. They need to be hung as well... So they are dwelling on it, hoping some chick will think he's also hung for whatever reason, and then I dunno, try to start some sexual relationship with some chick on the internet? I don't exactly know t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 03:32 PM
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Of course... That's how it is in nature too... It's just the reality of being the man. Plus you probably don't realize when a woman is approaching you. They are VERY subtle. They don't like to make it obvious. They are just feeling you out, giving themselves plausible deniability, then quietly exit if they aren't feeling it. Most dudes don't even realize they are being approached female style.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:57 PM
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How fucking beautiful as a man are you to get countless unsolicited nudes? Even the best looking men I know rarely get that, and it's usually only after texting a bit and getting sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:56 PM
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I don't know if the guy necessarilly treats her poorly... Often she still likes the guy, but knows he's not interested. But she wont move on, and keeps coming back for sex at least. Like, she'll be single in between relationships, and she's always calling up the hung ex bf for NSA sex. These guys want to be that guy... "So good at sex, that even my ex's will stick around later, or maybe current ones may stay longer". You never hear women say, "Yeah it wasn't working out so we broke up, but kept …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:53 PM
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A lot of guys notice how women will stay with a dude, who treats her poorly, breaks up with her, whatever, because the sex was amazing, which is often packed in with the fact he was hung. So dudes notice the correlation. Then they just start assuming, "If only I had a huge dick, learned how to use it, I'd be amazing at sex, and all these horny women would come have sex with me no matter how lame I am! Just like those shitty bf's they keep sleeping with, I can at least get sex like them, which is…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:14 PM
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I don't think the college admissions thing matters... The old data of college having such a huge impact, is from long ago and hasn't had been able to take into account the hoard of liberal arts majors... Which will still probably do better, but not by much. Further, most of these women are taking "easy" degrees. And generally speaking, you don't really need college anyways to be successful. I think over time it'll even itself out and not be a significant issue. Because again, men still dominate …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:38 AM
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They are still young... They are coming out of an environment, where status is determined by other things than career and economic success. It's about being good looking, fun, popular, etc... Money and career isn't really even on the table. Once they hit the real world, status games change, and so will the men's goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:46 AM
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I work in the business world... I'll be honest, you just assume most of the business owners are men. Not because women are incapable, but it's just not their personality type. They exist (Have to remind this sub about outliers always), but it just doesn't fit the female path. Men in general understand their disposability and how important it is to be successful in life to get ahead and be valued. So it's always just filled with men clawing and fighting for the top. The women who are among the ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:33 AM
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Long nails. I can't stand them. They just remind me of prostitutes. I'll never get over it. Also, size queens. Not gunna date a chick who is settling for sex while wishing she could get pounded by a huge dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:57 PM
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Are you? I've never, ever, in my life met a dude who said the problem was, "OMG dude, there are too many germs and bacteria down there!" You're literally the first person I've ever heard this as the excuse. That's not normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 03:17 PM
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7-8
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:40 PM
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I think it's way more common than most men think reading those studies. Those studies have a lot of flaws in them and the media spreads the ones with the absolute lowest numbers... ie, 5.2 is the average... Which is the most extreme outlier lowball number out of all the studies. Other studies primarily use patients with ED getting treatment which is how they got their measurements. But you can ask gay men and women who have been around a lot, and a large size is probably 20-30% of men, with HUGE…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:28 AM
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Dude.. I think you're just a crazy germaphobe. Dude's aren't reading studies about the amount of bacteria down there, much less care.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:21 AM
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I'm 6x5 and had girls say I'm on the low end of average. Some girls over estimate, but I think that's because the guy is really skinny. Also, many girls are just trying to be nice because male ego. "Oh wow, yes babe, that's huge it must be 7 inches!" There was that one study that found a woman's ideal is 6.3 inches. In the fine print, it said women significantly under estimated their partners size. Most women are looking at non bone pressed, where men measure bone pressed. So even if their guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:10 AM
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Okay so this just tries to dismiss things... "Oh well they were drunk so they were just making things up" and yeah I'm sure you're a good guy and they like you. But you're also probably providing really good sex because what you're packing... And yes, most women don't FREQUENTLY have vaginal orgasms. That's what the study is, FREQUENT vaginal orgasms. So considering most men are average then it makes sense most women wont have frequent vaginal orgasms. I'd like to see the data on women with larg…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 11:27 PM
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You're friend sounds like an outlier, who's probably also hot, and has other attributes women are coming back for... Which isn't entirely sex. I know many dudes who are hung, and they also tell me what women say candidly, that yeah, size matters, that yeah, they enjoy it more, that they'll lie about it, and some even talk about how he's ruined her because she can't orgasm from average sizes any more after him. Average guys don't have these conversations. Yeah, we get sex, and I've had plenty of …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 10:42 PM
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Sure, it's not necessary for dating, but I'm sure you get a lot of sex, and women come back for more even if you're not dating. Sure you get many FWBs or exs looking for hookups. Many guys would love to be sexually desired the same way women sesxually desire hung guys. That's the insecurity. We see how hung guys are treated differently, not for dating, but for just sex. Women go out of their way for them, still hook up with them, brag to their friends when they are dating a guy and got "lucky" h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:45 PM
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Huh? I've lived in a lot of cities, dates are WAY better. Yeah, you get a lot of serial daters, fence sitters, nothing is good enough types, but you also get all sorts of types in general. That said, I get WAYYYYYYY better matches and dates in Europe than I do in the USA. Way too many fat chicks, and not enough skinny, makes dating a nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 05:24 PM
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Sure, maybe that's the case for things that THEY personally value higher. Generally men value different things than women, and will be better at achieving those things more because they value them higher... So it's sort of a feedback loop. Like men tend to need resources to gain status, so they fight harder than women to achieve economic resources more than woman, which exalts their status... So they ARE better at achieving those things than woman, for what they find more important. Like I said,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:32 AM
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Less horny doesn't mean not horny. It just means less horny lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:59 PM
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Wait, hold up... Who in trad and rp say femininity is inferior? They just say it's different, which doesn't mean inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:27 PM
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One of RP things is pointing out WHY women are less horny and sexual than men. Yes, they want sex, enjoy it, and want to reproduce. But inherently, due to natural selection both genetic and social, they need to be more selective. Thus the disparity in sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:33 PM
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I think it's literally biological... Because it makes sense from an evolutionary perspective. It's advantageous for men to become obsessed with sex... It drives men to succeed, to push hard, to build things, and reproduce as much as possible to spread their genes. The more successful and productive a man is, the more sex he can get, and more driven he is to take these sexual opportunities, the more his genes spread.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:35 PM
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Those guys are usually, unknowingly attracting women who have attachment issues who desperately just want a guy that's safe and will never abandon her. So they date down, as they feel more comfortable that he wont abandon her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:13 AM
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It's more about, if "yourself" is someone who is a furry, writes erotic fanfic, and spends all day in discord... Stop being that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:10 AM
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Just in life man... Why are you acting naive about this? It sounds like your sea lioning me. Pressure like in career, competitors, like in social environments. Maybe things are going sideways in life, and you're falling into a rut, and you have a lot to deal with but are always cracking and failing because you're so anxious. Maybe you're trying to climb the corporate latter but it's hard because you can't network. Maybe just in general people don't like hanging out with you, so you miss a lot of…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:49 PM
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The real world is filled with practical real challenges, and competition. Sure there are plenty of people in high positions who get by just off smarts alone, or niche skills... But for the most part, on the bell curve, people are put off by insecure men because they crack under pressure and lose to comeptition. They show signs of competitive weakness. Why are they nervous around other people? We are a deeply social creature where we heavily rely on cooperation and socializing... But this guy is …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:32 PM
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It's just a general rule... Insecure guys are generally not going to be very successful. If they have self worth issues, they are going to generally have a poor mindset. Confidence is usually the fruit of a successful person. Someone who's competent and routinely achieves goals start becoming confident in themselves. Yes yes yes... I know, you know some insecure guys who are successful and some confident guys who aren't. But we are speaking in general terms here and it's annoying that this has t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 06:15 PM
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I think it's more about how an insecure, not confident, anti social man, is a detrimental character trait to have in the real world as a man. Women subconciously know this. They know what loser traits are for men, and what makes them unsucessful. A woman being shy and insecure isn't really catastrophic for a female path in life, so men aren't concerned. Being crazy, cheaters, etc, are male concerns, hence why our vetting normally goes around her sexual history, trust, type of exs, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 05:40 PM

No... Maybe you view it that way because you're prone to become a doormat and are afraid of it. I know how to handle myself. If she does something like that, I deal with it like someone who isn't insecure and it becomes a non-issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:34 PM

When I read things like this - OP - I just imagine a weak man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:34 PM

I don't take it personally. I'm not insecure about my opinion of myself, so when my GF says something like that, I know she's punching up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:32 PM
1

No one gives a flying fuck if a man is dating an older woman other than "Why bro? You can get younger, easily..."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:15 AM
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Alright bro... Let's relax a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:05 PM
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Late 20s through early 30s are the statistically best times to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 11:55 AM

Dude, guys do the SAME THING. It's literally male lore: "Don't stick your dick in crazy". It's a story about men chasing a really hot chick that has a terrible personality. And then men learn, "Eh maybe looks aren't actually that important and quality of character is." Women learn the same shit. The issue arises from, what women don't really understand, is men inherently have sexual insecurity from the fact that we aren't certain of paternity. Guys get jealous of other men: Does he make her more…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:10 PM
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Sure... But I also see women dating absolutely normal regular guys, ALL THE TIME. My buddy is just a regular-ass nice guy who's broke, but his wife is hot as shit and stays at home raising their kid. I mean, like yeah, sure, women would all love their man to ideally be super rich, hung, handsome, and perfect in everyway... And I want to marry 22 year old Mila Kunis... But that's not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:23 PM
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I dunno man, in my experience woman want charisma, and there are women across all strata of life. Sure, an Instagram obsessed girl is going to be obsessed with status, but at the end of the day I think they look for personality, having your foundations secure, not unattractive, good in bed, and not shitty... You have those taken care of and you can find a woman. Believe it or not, there are TONS and TONS of normal, working class, lower class, educated, women who aren't looking for tall moneybags…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:14 PM
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I don't know how... Everytime I talk to young 20s, who isn't super mature for herself (usually a very attractive chick who's learned way fast how to deal with men), they are insecure and just nod and say yes to everything I say like I'm their dad or some shit. It's hard to have conversations when they don't have coherent and confident opinions on things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:38 PM
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The only one of these things i see women complain about is "Wait, if YOU have a high number count, then you're not allowed to want a woman with a lower number!" I'll never understand this one. And people will get argumentative over it. Like no, you're not allowed to have that preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:47 AM
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I find it stupid because... I'm not a radical feminist and think men and women are different. So when someone is like, "Imagine if a GUY did that! OMG it would be so different!" Yeah, no shit. Men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:57 AM

Of course... But this system creates a lot of value. It places a lot of pressure to become more than just disposable laborers and soldiers. It creates an environment where men have to work hard to succeed to find a mate... Which is why men are always going to dominate the economic world, because they have far more pressure to succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 01:51 PM

Yeah this is ridiculous. Status and money contributes to which class of women are in your sexual market availability. Status and money set your ceiling. So you can go down with ease, but rarely up. And yes, I'll admit it does help the further you go down in the class chart. But personality is your boxing skill within your weight class. So some guys that have high class and status but dead ugly, trying to hit on some chick in a lot of povery, it's like a 300 pound boxer with no skill, taking on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 10:55 AM
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Oh yeah, I've been to POOR countries, and it still seems like everyone at least has a basic sense of style. Americans are notorious for being slobs with absolute no regard for how they present themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:07 PM
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I think there is just a dynamic where men, as the seed spreaders biologically speaking, are FORCED to lower their standards. We have to find ways to reproduce, so men are just going to have to trick their mind one way or another. Whereas women, who DON'T have to lower standards, because men trying to fuck them (due to the above) isn't going to change. If anything they can forever keep raising standards since quality male genetics is in abundance. So just biologically speaking, they don't need to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:06 PM
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It's crazy going to another country where women are normal weight. It's like suddenly, everyone is magically way more attractive. What is considered very attractive in the US, is just normal somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:45 AM
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Because people when talking about men and women, are talking about the group as a whole. Men, are objectively, way way way more desperate and thirsty, as a whole. For obvious biological incentives. When it comes to sex, men are absolutely going to be far more willing to go low.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:45 AM

I don't see your point... Obviously if they wanted them earlier they'd have them. Life just passes you by. Most people want kids but don't make it a priority until it's too late. And when they do, they kind of wish, "Hmmm maybe I should have been thinking about this more". Instead you get situations which now I'm in my late 30s, I've seen A LOT... Is women getting really depressed when they realize "Oh I wasted that last relationship in my early 30s with that guy... I should have been discussing…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:17 AM

What are you talking about? Minimal decrease? No, it's not a gradual decrease. I'm sure you like to believe that or tell yourself that... But every doctor knows that it's not a gradual decline, but a cliff. Having a few lucky friends get pregnant at 37 doens't mean most women will be able to do that. It's one of the biggest mistakes women have is they casually think, "Oh no biggy, I'll just get IVF!" Then life happens and they realize they don't just have 30k laying around
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:13 AM

Yes men are part of this, obviously. But generally speaking, according to the research, the majority of childless women report it not being intentional but it just kind of never happened. The window for women to have kids closes early thirties. It's not women choosing to be child free, but rather, not really getting around to wanting kids in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 09:55 PM

Uhhh that's not really reality. Most women by the time they are ready to have those kids, are unable to have those kids. It's the primary reason why birth rates are so low.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:56 PM
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LOL, I mean, I'm all for the PPB movement. Why burden yourself trying to succeed in a tougher market when there are better markets elsewhere. I don't get why this is okay for careers but not love. If it's easier to find quality women who truly love you elsewhere, then fucking go to where the fish are lol... I never understand why people get so mad at this. They confuse it with exploitation, which is a thing, but not a PPB thing Either way that video is ridiculous. I hope my man there is living h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:27 PM
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Absolutely... Which is why it's up to YOU, to make sure when you're vetting her, that she is also sexually interested and eager for you. If not, you're going to get fucked by being settled on. Ideally, a quality guy is a mix of passionate lust and long term value. You got to find a girl who thinks you're worth it long term, as well as make her horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:24 PM
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What's wrong with that? I'm confused. Are you saying hot chicks will easily fuck a hot guy, but take it slower when she wants a real relationship? I mean, I'm no different. I'll fuck a drunk dime from the bar in a heartbeat, but I will NOT be interested in dating her. I want a girl who can show me she has inherent long term value, not just a hot body.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:14 PM
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Hmmm let me reframe it better. You're not supposed to turn into a betabux. Hopefully, as you grow and mature into that ideal man you're striving to be... You realize, that this desire to turn back time and go fuck a bunch of sluts, is rooting from insecurity and ego. To validate yourself you feel like, "Now's my turn to fuck a bunch of hot sluts!" -- Which is fine, but that's the sign of a weak man. You're still being controlled by insecurities and external validations for your own personal well…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:40 PM
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Yeah, of course, women will always have more options. That's just biology and that'll never change. But I really want to warn guys against this promise of "once you get a little older you'll hit your stride and start crushing pussy!" I promise you, this is not true for most men. Most men will be gaining weight, going bald, and being boring. Most 20 somethings aren't interested, and the 30 something who are, are eager for commitment and kids, so they also aren't interested in some playboy. Sure, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:58 PM
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Okay dude... I don't know where you're going with this. We are clearly talking past each other. I'm just over talking with you as you're so indirect and don't actually make any points.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:28 PM
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Yeah... Mostly... Many people who WANT to sleep around can't... But also many also choose not to sleep around. In my experience, the types who sleep around a lot were hot chicks, and chicks desperate for male attention. Most chicks will have some random sex with people they hardly know, here and there, but overall, it's not like how this sub makes it out to be where they are all on dating apps fucking a new guy each weekend.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:25 PM
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Sure, everyone sleeps around when they are young... But the way it's framed here is women are just riding cock from tall hot guys with huge dicks. Most chicks aren't party girls. Sure, they exist in decent numbers, but most chicks aren't. You just aren't seeing them because you only pay attention to the hottest girls
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:17 PM
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No, it's because you are terminally online and your perspective of "outside" comes the internet, which amplifies the extremes for engagement and clicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:16 PM
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WTF? How does that even make sense: Me: Hey I went down this path and found it empty. That's my experience. It really wasn't what it was cracked up to be You: OMG stop virtue signalling and talking down to people wahhhh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:07 PM
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I'm explaining my perspective of what I've learned and experienced. I'm literally just talking about how I've changed my perspective and do actually think it was a bad decision rooted in hedonism and self validation. Maybe you're different, I don't know. But that's my experience. If you think that's looking down on people who were just like me, then fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:03 PM
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I've had a lot of casual sex. It was nothing more than hedonism. It wasn't even good... It was more about the validation that came with being able to sleep with an attractive woman. The older I get, the more turned off I get for people who's hobbies and life revolve around sex, like kink and stuff... As well as casual sex in general. It's just glorified masturbation
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 03:42 PM
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I noticed this sub thinks the average woman is a Gucci buying sorority girl who is addicted to posting on Instagram and possibly running an OnlyFans. It's so crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 03:20 PM
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Am I the only one who can tell if we're compatable after the first or second date? I swear you guys act like you can't get a feel unless youre with them for months.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 01:27 AM
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They just want to fuck a hot guy... No different than dudes wanting to fuck a hot chick. Eventually chicks realize that they want a relationship and those easy hot guys aren't going to make the cut It sucks, but that's reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:58 AM
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A local celebrity will still get plenty of women. It's all about status, and locally, he has high status, and will be able to get women in that status game.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 12:50 AM
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Not even good looking male celebrities, and not even that famous. I've seen mid range local DJs just sweep up with women like crazy. Actual celebrities, have such an unfathomable reality, where just about any woman will sleep with them. Good looking ones, pretty much no one refuses them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 12:48 AM
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That's generally smart in subs like this... Having frank and honest discussions tend to be difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:29 PM
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I think it's both... I think some are genuinely like you described. But the recent explosion also coinciding with the extreme mental health epidemic, is no coincidence. But things can be true. And frankly I think the mental illness part is the bulk of it today. Considering now the overwhelming majority of trans people are reported to have shown absolutely no signs of it in childhood, and only did once they started getting into those communities is a sign of this. Historically, trans people alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:17 PM
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One of the founding fathers wrote about something like this... He said REAL power in the room, is the woman with the powerful men. They are the ones who influence these men, and do so subtly. Basically, women not being part of the front end of the power games, have learned how to get power by manipulating the men around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:00 PM
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After they pass the minimum looks requirement test... And often men will get with a chick with a poor matched personality if she's attractive enough. That's just the primal brain hijacking the frontal brain. It wont last, but dudes sure as hell will try to make it work if she's a dime.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:05 AM

It's not the same... Mail order brides are relying on just wealth and a green card to find a woman who just wants to be saved from her shitty situation. PPBs are more about guys going to other dating markets where they have higher percieved status to find higher quality genuine girlfriends. For instance, if you moved to Germany you're going to find many more fit, attractive women, who consider you genuine dating material and form a genuine relationship. It would just be easier to find a quality …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:53 AM
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Sexism implies believing one sex is better than the other. That's not the case. It's not sexist to say men are stronger than women. I'm glad society recognizes things like this still and haven't dranken the koolaid into thinking literally evolution isn't real when it comes to humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 11:06 PM
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Yeah the societal expectations come from the biological differences... We as a society evolved a system that maximizes each gender's comparative advantages. For instance, the military drafts men, because men have a comparative advantage in warfare. We expect different things because of their strength capacity. And society recognizes that strength natural in men, and tries to foster it as they grow up, because it's a natural advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 09:07 PM
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Yeah I don't hold the same expectations from each gender. That's ridiculous. Men are more resilient and designed to fight to achieve in the world, so I hold higher expectations for men in that way, while women are more suited for other and thus expect things differently from them. Holding men and women to different standards is like holding NFL players and NBA players to the same standards. Both should be expected to be athletic, but they are built for different games.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:25 PM
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Modern feminists are pretty regarded though... I thought most people here already agreed on this. People need to stop listening to the craziest people in the room just because they are the loudest. That's why you zoomers are all fked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:23 PM
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Huh? Men are different though... Yeah, sometimes criticism of men is stupid because men aren't women, and trying to hold them to the same standards is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:22 PM
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Why do you guys bitch about this so much? Men and women are different... They have different biological drives, expectations, and so on... That's life. People just want equality in opportunity and the law. It doesn't mean everyone has to be the same. Why are you guys so angry with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:38 PM
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Definitely... They may not say it outwardly, but expect it intuitively. Actions > words. People often struggle to intellectualize nuanced drivers. It doesn't mean men have to be hardcore authoritarian, "I'm the alpha male, and you listen to me and just say yes sir!" types... But generally women like a man who is decisive, offers security, safety, and able to lead people with good decision making, while also showing his competency to provide for the family when things get rough. Just look at the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 09:50 AM
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I RARELY ever hear of cases where people started dating a stranger and took things super slow before getting serious. Usually it's going slow because one party isn't that interested and are still looking around. Generally, you know if you're a good match early on and escalate pretty quickly. If things are moving too fast, it's either creepy fast, or she's just not that interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 02:42 PM
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I'm just giving you a realistic situation of what to expect with women. I'm not defending it, I'm just laying out the reality of how women will react. They want a man who's assured, confident, and able to get through difficulty. The biggest turnoff is seeing their man they are dedicated to, starting to crack.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 02:27 PM
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It depends on why you're crying. Women want emotional vulnerability that's still stoic and doesn't show faltering. For instance, if a family member dies, it's okay to cry, if you're happy, it's okay to cry, if you see some sad movie, it's okay to cry... When it's not okay to cry is when you're showing extreme weakness, when you need resilience and absurdness. Say for instance, you feel like a failure, or you lost your job. These are tears of failing and unable to provide security... In those cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 11:29 AM
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SJWs are just insufferable dude... Who fucking cares? They are miserable and lame. Nothing makes sense, as it's all just an outlet to be angry
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:04 PM
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Eh... Good luck with that. Saying a product is "Too good" is a hard sell. Especially when it doesn't have any direct health or financial impacts. I doubt it would go anywhere. It's an interesting shot, but seems really unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 12:05 PM
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Maybe when AI breaks capitalism due to the labor variable getting wiped out. But until then, I don't see these apps going anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 10:30 AM
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Our ancestors didn't have technology neither. The environmental variables are drastically different once the social community is scaled up to near infinite thanks to the internet. It breaks a lot of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 10:26 AM
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Men aren't going to change lol And neither are women. In RSP someone posted a web comic of some chic talking about how she went through a divorce and joined the dating apps. And then got hooked because suddenly attractive men she'd never be the type to go on a date with, were hitting her up in mass. That she would get super easy dates with attractive men, and easy sex with much more attractive men. And she basically got addicted to all the attention to the point that she didn't actually want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 09:32 AM
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I'm agreeing with you. I think people that claim "Men just need to raise their standards or walk away" don't realize who has that decision. It's women. And women have all the power because they don't NEED nor CARE to make any changes. It's nothing like the male dynamic. If there are limited females, men will compete over them, but if there are equal females, men will settle for what they can get. However, with women, they don't settle for less... Instead they just compete more for the dwindling …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 11:35 AM
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There are two case studies in history that I think highlights what to expect: First, women WILL massively step up their game if needed. If it's hard to find a man, women WILL absolutely begin focusing on looks and becoming competitive as needed to find quality men. We see this in Russia and Asian countries. In Russia most men died off, so women had to get really competitive after the war, and that culture of hyper beauty standards persists so women can find a quality non-shitbag man. In Asian, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 11:11 AM
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This guy in that video gives me weird vibes... Not a fan. He has a fundamental core to his argument that more women should be having tons more sex, more quickly, and actually, claims that if a woman wants a man the problem she can't lock them down is because she's not fucking him fast enough. He seems like he has secret coomer porn brain that he hides, because he's always trying to subtly promote tons of casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 08:52 AM
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Yeah, well, it's not like you have the pick of the litter when you're late 30s. The types of chicks into that and dimes, also have either really high standards that exclude most dudes, or kind of have some other issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:09 PM
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I dunno if I'd say I'm an "alpha male" but I was really successful with women, had money, travelled, etc... but not like one of those guys really really killing it in life and lead a large social circle. I was more solo but like I said, I definitely had success with women. I'll say I do regret not settling down sooner. After mid 30s, you realize the good women are mostly gone. Some guys just remain being fuckbois, but I always wanted a family and now it's kind of "left overs". Lots of party girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:45 PM
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If people didn't have insecurities, dudes would just be playing video games, getting drunk, and living with their parents. Insecurity is absolutely natural, necessary, and useful for progress. In the case with this guy and the dick joke... He now knows his GF likely enjoys larger dicks (don't they all) and he's going to be insecure. Well now he's probably going to try harder in bed to compensate for it. Win win for both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 12:27 PM
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Yeah I don't get it. I think it's 100% perfectly fine for women to want a guy who's had success... It shows competency and capacity. It's a trait women like and enjoy, and it's silly that they try to dance around it at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 08:12 PM
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No... That's just a standard requirement... As I said, it's like YOU having a standard of a woman needs to be so attractive. It doesn't mean that the primary and only reason you're dating her is for her looks. It's no different than women with money. Women want the best they can get. They have a standard where they want a man with money, because that's an attractive quality, but you have to bring more to the table than just money. But while some guys just date for looks, some women just date for…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 01:47 PM
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Those younger women are not viewing it as prince charming, they view it as how much money can I squeeze out of him while giving him the right amount of attention and they enjoy the lifestyle, not the man himself. IF that's the case, then yeah, it's a bad use. But generally speaking, in my experience, there are simply just more of women who genuinely like the guys and also like money as a status and quality thing which they genuinely find attractive. It's less "I'm just using this guy for money!"…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 01:24 PM
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Yes, it IS attractive to women... But not in the transactional sense of I'm using money to get women to want me for my money, rather than a value ad. Like there is a difference between trying to attract a woman who's just using you for money versus who sees money as an attractive quality. It becomes the wrong type of transactional when money is the key reason she sticks around, when deep down she actually doesn't even like you. Rather than, you know, ooh he's handsome fun and rich. In that sense…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 01:16 PM
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You have to separate things... Not all situations where men are acting as the provider are doing so in a way to "buy" love and partnership. You may not be able to distinguish things (I find a lot of younger people see so many things as transactional) where you pay for things, and aren't expecting anything in return. You may see it as "Well if I paid for this, it by default means you owe me something, so I'm assuming you're going to repay me." But many people, in relationships, don't mind paying …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 12:40 PM
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Yes, gender relations are fixed. The solution is grass. Go touch it. Y'all chronically online zoomers are falling apart because of the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:46 AM
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It could be different... It simply could be that married men generally are a type of guy who has their shit together and stable, which is why he's married to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 10:22 PM
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I mean, the Irish left actually knew how to throw a punch (or a bomb ayyyyeeeee)... Our left here in the USA spent their school years doing dance and theater with parents who supervised every friend visit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 05:52 PM
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Yes, aesthetically left Americans. Blue hairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 05:46 PM
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It's much more common in very far left groups... I think it sprung up because people demonized being "cis" so much, they had to cling onto some sort of "alternative lifestyle" to break the cis white person stereotypes. I don't think most of them that even identify as such, even practice it as much as they just like the label that derails them from being "heteronormative". It's always ugly far left people... I think some of them really get into it, but everyone I've seen, turns into a trainwreck …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 05:40 PM
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Oh it's not just anecdote. The data is out. The average highschooler spends 9 hours a day on their phone... 15% don't even have an IRL friend. It's unnatural as the social aspect of internet really leans into that human drive that's so powerful at that age, but poisons it with the inherent unnatural nature of being connected to just so many people. Not only that, but there is a crowd that normalizes EVERYTHING... You can fall into the craziest social groups online. Like, there is a trend with li…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 10:47 PM
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That's easier said than done. Zoomers are absolutely terminally online in all aspects of their life. It's wild. I saw a highschool between period and literally everyone was quiet just on their phones. It's so weird. The internet IS their community, and that community is way too big, and way too much of an echochamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:27 PM
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You have a really shitty ability to pick partners, and probably just get with whoever you find attractive enough before realizing they are a bad match.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 11:36 AM
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I think it's just hte nature of the genders. When I date someone I have more tolerance for patience, and generally, I don't start dating someone seriously unless they pass all the tests and I can see myself with them. Women, on the other hand, live in a Disney and romcom fantasy world, which gives them vastly different expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 11:29 AM

You have to understand the Reddit demographic and system to get it. First Reddit is the nerdiest, dorkiest social media platform, so that's the base. Second, upvotes recommend "feel good" advice over everything else. So when you come to Reddit and read the advice it's so fucking awful. It's completely disconnected from reality. And I feel like if Reddit had PFPs that showed what they looked like giving the advice, it would all make sense, and people would stop taking Redditor's advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 09:36 AM

The way you present yourself says a lot about who you are, and it's perfectly valid to judge people and have preconceptions about how this person chooses to present themselves. A woman with long nails is a signal to me that is 100% not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 09:34 AM
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Yes, and that means you have a challenge in the marriage that needs to be figured out, and not just abandoned
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 09:24 AM
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Then what's the point of marriage? I feel like such an agreement should come with a little more stern terms... You know, "Through thickness and through thin" Not to say you shouldn't legally be allowed to divorce, but there should be social penalties and create social pressures. I think it should be frowned upon for leaving a marriage. America really lacks social regulations of society in general. We look at everything black and white, through a legal framework, and rarely use social dynamics to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:11 AM
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It's generally the woman. Don't act like it's ambiguous and equally split. By the time it comes to sex, women are hoping for a relationship, whereas men will gladly take the easy sex and tease the relationship. Yes I know there are snowflake women out there just looking for NSA sex... But generally, situationships in my experience, are from guys not ready to commit, with the minority being women who just keep a guy around while she's hoping to get back with her ex or some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:51 PM
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Do you not have guy friends? People do, all the fucking time... Too many fat chicks, too many sluts, crazy bitches, entitled, etc... Dude guys have been, since I can remember, complaining about how hard it is to find a quality wife material lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:32 PM
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I'd argue there is MORE low quality women than men. So many are just fat and not attractive. Fat chicks hold their weight WAY worse than men, and it shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:13 PM
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Please stop acting like women were just fucking chattel. You have a crazy warped view of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 01:19 PM
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Oh fucking please.... No it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:03 AM
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I'm a guy. Stop being a whiny bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:02 AM
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I've noticed... and it's soooo weird. I don't get it. Like I don't understand the thought process where it's not obvious we are speaking in general terms. Like is it something they just don't do? Maybe if they better understood probabilities and trendlines, they wouldn't be making 77 cents on the dollar. Silly wamman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 11:10 PM
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We are talking in a general sense... Averages, the mean. You're too focused on everyone being unique and special and diverse, and we are talking about macro dating economics, while you're focused on micro dating economics. Yes, some women will pull handsome older men, etc etc... But generally, over all, from what I noticed, as a bell curve, the complaining curve shifts a significant amount over.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 11:01 PM
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I mean, to be fair though... I think a lot of these 40 year olds WOULD date a 25 year old. It's just not many 25 year olds that are actually attractive want to date a 40 year old dude lol - so I think a lot of guys just get realistic and go for 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:48 PM
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I mean, I've never been "expected" to pay... I always insist on paying anyways, same as whenever I ask to take anyone out, including a friend. I've never really had someone "expect" me to pay because I just assume if it's a first date I expect to pay... But I guess if they did, like we went out and she was insisting I paid and got weird about it, I'd ding her, but I wouldn't next her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:21 PM
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I think the "wall" is definitely overplayed. They act like suddenly women become cat ladies or something. However, it's definitely true that complaining about "quality" men goes up. They can still easily date and find men, but it's much harder as the pool is much smaller. But that's a lot to do with just men all being married, and the single ones are either single for a reason, or dating younger girls. But those 35 year olds are "younger girls" to a 40 year old lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:46 PM
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Men and women are different. There are different social norms for different genders and that's totally fine. I don't see the problem here. If a woman likes it, she likes it. GTFO it. If you don't like it, fine. Then just don't date those women. Though in my experience, you're going to be passing up on a lot of opportunity and qualify chicks over something so stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:42 PM
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Dude, this is about women just liking when men pay for dinner when courting them. Stop acting like it's 8000 BC because I think it's fine that a girl I like finds it charming when I pay 30 dollars for her dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:41 PM
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There will always be differences in genders. That's just reality. It's why feminism is stupid. Yes, women like being courted and men showing his ability to take care of a woman in American culture. That's just one of the things we do as a culture. It's a small tiny benefit most people don't complain about. Remember, screeching equality feminists are not normal women. MOST women are perfectly happy with gender differences. They are fine with the man making more, and in fact, prefer it. They want …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:32 PM
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Just because a woman likes the courtship tradition of the guy paying for the first date, doesn't also means she wants to become some stay at home tradwife making kids all day.. FFS you guys are so binary.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:23 PM
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If you're trying to date... And women enjoy some part of that culture, then yeah lean into that culture. If you want a far left progressive only partner, then go for that. But 90% of women are not far left radical progressives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:01 PM
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Of course... I'm not saying there is anything wrong with not doing it. I'm just saying a lot of women still like the norm and tradition, and there is nothing narcissistic or "evil bitch woman" about it. It's just a think they enjoy and like about dating when a guy pays for the meal. It's kind of silly to fully X out perfectly fine women just because she prefers the guy pay. Like if you're worried about attracting gold diggers, you have other bigger issues to worry about like why do you keep dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:49 PM
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OKay whatever... This conversation has ran it's course. Personally, I think men and women are different, and thus, have different expectations around who does what and why. I also may be a liberal, but I like more traditional family values, so I behave in a way that attracts those kind of women. I'm not looking for a girl-boss 3000 who pays for everything and we act like bill splitting roommates. I'm looking for a wife and mother of my children, and women who share traditional family values. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:26 AM
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Decent women have no problem paying for food that's going into their own mouths. This seems obvious to me. Sure, and many decent women also like traditional dating practices as they find it fun, charming, and attractive. Traditional women aren't different from modern women. They're both entitled and see relationships as transactions. Plus traditional women tend to believe in braindead religions like Christianity. You are giving off serious incel vibes... Negative attitudes with women, bad stereo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:56 AM
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No one is saying you HAVE to follow cultural norms... I'm just saying you're cutting out a lot of quality decent people, especially if you're looking for more traditional women, if you decide to start cutting out cultural norms for you're own little rebellion reason. If you want to miss out on a large pool of potentially great partners because "this social norm is stupid!" Then go for it. Quality women don't require payment for us to hang out, prostitutes do. This is so fucking stupid dude. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:31 AM
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Okay... But it's still a social norm. It's called culture. People like cultural norms. It doesn't make them gold diggers or bad people. Sure they ARE fine paying for their own, but it's not about that. It's about the cultural norms and expectations surrounding it. In the US, it's simply expected that men are courting women, and part of the tradition is men show their seriousness by being the one who buys the meal on a date. It's not necessary, or needed, but rather just part of our cultural trad…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:09 AM
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Dude... Even the most social progressive women like the idea of men paying. It's nothing to do with being superficial. Most women just like that part of the courtship. It makes them feel special and like the prize. It's just a deep cultural thing that most women expect. Nothing wrong with tradition. I'd just say, don't go on expensive first dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:53 AM
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MOre like, "Yeah I do like a big dick! I mean, it's not required! But obviously it's preferred. It hits more spots and feels more intense" That sort of drunk honesty. When you're ambitions are lower so you feel more confident talking about things you're otherwise too shy to share.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 11:33 PM
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But also, TRP was saying the same things when they weren't trying to make money off of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 09:07 PM
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Lol these podcasts are ridiculous. It's grown men, which means they are wiser, smarter, sharper, etc... Bringing on a bunch of 18-22 girls into the ring and eviscerating them. It's just not a fair match, unbalanced, and designed to be the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 09:05 PM
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I'm talking about drunk honesty. Also, guys aren't stupid. We are pretty good at pattern recognition. We aren't stupid when we start to see the pattern of the hung friend always having FWBs, ex gfs always looking for NSA sex afterwards, and of course, hear the talks about "Yeah he's an asshole but he had a huge dick so it was worth it tee hee..." Like it becomes obvious after a while. It blows me a way that some people still try to pretend it's not the case. Average is "good enough". But larger …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 08:14 PM
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It's more about it just being big and he's hot, and she's horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 04:39 PM
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I think they do... Get them drunk and they are pretty open about it. I just think women are the queens of plausible deniability, so they don't talk about such things unless there is wine and a hushed tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 02:24 PM
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I've literally seen it first hand. The dude's a former special forces guy who's literally addicted to sex. He's a total degenerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 01:00 PM
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Just sends... If they match, he sends. Way more women than you think respond with "MMmmm" or "Wow" or something like that. He's shown me. It's one of those weird things that is privately more popular than people realize. Probably because it's tied into the female large penis enjoyment denial in our culture. Granted he's also really good and fit. But he was getting mostly positive responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 12:26 PM
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He sends them to chicks he's talking to on dating apps. He does send them unsolicited. Eventually one likes what they see and have sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 12:18 PM
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I knew a guy who sends dick pics. He has a large dick. And yes, it does work... If it's just a normal dick, most chicks wont care, but if they know the guy is attractive and he sends a pic and it's huge, some chicks just want to fuck. He gets tons of hookups and NSA entirely because he's average attractive and hung. Online, you're only going to hear the women who hate it, or go along with hating it. Women aren't going to come out and say how yeah they like it when they are huge, because then the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 11:38 AM
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Yeah I think many ARE blindsided, simply because they knew it was bad but didn't think it was getting that bad. Probably because men have higher tolerance they fail to recognize just how bad things have become.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:39 PM
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It's all just status games at the end of the day anyways. I don't think she was "bitching" and genuinely feels that way, but is showing off her status. Like, "Pshhh look at this obviously affluent American woman, working, with her hands! I'm so high status, I'm just pampered and spoiled with resources! I'm actually high status... Look at me!"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:31 PM
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How's this racially charged? Can I not express the race of people?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 02:26 PM
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LOL no... It's a great analogy. She's right. Women are social creatures and they know the game very well. Making enemies doesn't make friends. Women are just wise enough to know not to rock the bed amongst their peers. They aren't like men who enjoy a rational fight of ideas... They seek harmony.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 02:16 PM

Why do zoomers look at relationships so transactional? It's so weird. Have you ever dated someone? Women DEFINITELY love... Often they love too much where it doesn't make sense, which is why they stay around long after they should have left. You may show love through material things, like buying stuff, but often women show love by being there with you. Yes, women want a man who can pay for things, to show he can provide for her and the future family - a warrior who can ensure a thriving life. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 04:24 PM
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Yeah, I'm single right now because the same reasons. WHy would I date someone I dont find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:07 PM
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I mean I'm sure you can dig deeper for more sources, but this was the top link https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/22/men-regardless-age-will-always-attracted-women-early-20s-8718590/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:19 PM
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Resources and status are irrelevant in terms of biology. Those did not exist in the sense when we lived in tribes and everything was shared. Yes they did. They absolutely did... Just not at the same scale. But all tribes had status. It's inherent to being a social creature, we create hierarchies, and the higher on the hierarchy is a reflection of your competency and leads to more security and resources. But status has ALWAYS been a thing, and always will be. It's inherent to being social creatur…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:18 PM
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Most people are attracted to others in their age range. You are hard pressed to find a normal middle aged guy who thinks high school graduates are attractive to him. The data is overwhemling. Men find, no matter their own age, women to be the hottest at 21-22... Women find men's attraction to shift with their own age. Men do not. It anchors around 21. But just because men aren't going around trying to fuck and marry young chicks in their 40s, doesn't mean they aren't hot. They just aren't trying…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:04 PM
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I get it... I'm just saying. It's not the rational part that tends to break things down. But the dynamic itself is unstable. Core attraction things are muddied up, and leads to degradation I'm not saying that's you personally. But the data shows it's the single biggest variable of a marriage failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:57 PM
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People don't think like this. You don't date or marry someone because your "perceive their value". People don't consciously... But subconsciously it does. Attraction and mate preference is very complex and primal. You should read "The Status Game", and the countless number of research onto human pair bonding, mating, and so on. These are complex mechanisms that follow clear patterns and trends. For instance, when a guy is sexually attracted to a young woman, he's not thinking, "Oh wow, she is fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:30 PM
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Huh? There absolutely is a causation. If you look at male and female dynamics, a woman who makes a higher income, inherently disrupts this whole system on many levels. From male sense of identity, to perceived value she thinks she can attain. The data shows the causation clear as day. Men care very little about female income... Women care a lot. The lower the income, the less they like the guy, the more income, the more they like the guy... And once she surpasses him, she starts seeing him as lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:07 PM
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That's not the attribution though. Culturally women tend to date upward. As they increase in income they start feeling like they can get better... If the woman is making 250k a year, well she can get a guy making 500k etc... It's not an issue with women feeling financially dependent until they aren't so they leave. This is the same issue among high income earners. But once the woman makes significantly more, even among an already high income, marriages start to fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:04 PM
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I warn more than twice what my husband does and it doesn’t impact my attraction to him whatsoever. We met in grad school, before either of us had a full time job, and it just happens this is how things shook out. We’re friends with a number of couples in the same situation, so it’s not entirely uncommon. Just an FYI, you earning significantly more, is the statistically most powerful variable that correlates with divorce. It's not impossible to have the relationship work, but statistically, you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:42 AM
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I didn't say "literally everyone with no exception!" I said the the biggest regret for old people who never started a family, was never starting a family. Obviously some old people wont be miserable and lonely with no purpose... But we are obviously speaking in general terms here since it's always assumed as a truism that there are exceptions. But generally, that's what this path leads towards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:19 PM
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Horny and lonely. A lot of chicks know a guy will pay more attention to her when she's dangling sex, and it gets her foot in the door. Mix in some booze, which makes her really into in that moment, and also a little horny, and you get the ONS. In my personal experience, most ONS were girls wanting something more... But it gave them plausible deniability to "just wanting to have some fun and get laid!" when I didn't follow through.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:30 PM
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The data is pretty consistent... The people with the most fulfilling lives, start families. The biggest regret of the elderly who never started a family, was not starting a family. When you're 70 and have NO ONE... You're going to be a terribly miserable person, lonely, with little purpose in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:53 PM
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Reproduction is important to pass on wisdom and traits/genetics that were able to succeed. If you don't reproduce, or at the very least, adopt to pass on the nurture elements of yourself, you're a failure for the species as a whole. You're a hedonist of wasted potential. The species relies on constant improvement and positive iteration. If you instead choose to just seek pleasure, isolation, or whatever else... you're a weak member of the species. You're not fulfilling the most important role we…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:33 PM
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Lamo. Good partners. Women who don’t marry for money. Women whining see men as ATMs. Women who actively participate in relationships. Don't marry these women. These women you describe sound insufferable and terrible. Why they fuck would you marry women like you describe? Sure, no marriage is perfect, but they don't have to be god awful neither. Be a man and do better. You frame it like you're forced into some shitty hell consumed marriage. Like all things in life, there are winners and losers, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:14 AM
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Why die at work just to give a hate filled wife who takes all your money in a culture where you're just another wojak at the office living on $20 a week developing a severe sake problem. You may not see it yourself... But you're just as pathetic as them. You are already succumbing to outside influence controlling you. You think the only way to date and have a family is if you get a hate filled wife who takes all your money. That's what you see as the inevitable. It's outside your control Meanwhi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 10:26 AM
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Because men decline in a constant slow linear fashion. Women, hit a fucking cliff where it drastically falls in just a year or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:22 PM
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You have to determine which type of person you are, and your goals in life. If you want a boring, safe, life... Then yeah, go with the statistics. Don't take risks, play it safe, etc... But you also need to understand those failures are usually failed people. They aren't very self aware, don't know how to solve problems, and pick bad partners. Reality is most people are much more flawed than we realize. And you're basing your actions on the statistical creations from those people. I wouldn't shy…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:28 AM
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They have always been mainstream. It's literally stuff men tell other men since forever. It wasn't until relatively recently that talking about it was seen "bad" because of the gender wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 11:29 PM
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Keep hustling king!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:57 PM
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Become a better man instead of a quitter. Consider this time in our challenges as a culling of the weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:48 PM
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Most people want to start a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:54 PM
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Spend some time in Europe and quickly learn just how unnatractive most Americans are. We get fat, have no style, unkempt, etc... The average person in most places at least knows how to look good. Americans hardly try. Both sides struggle to find good looking partners because we are ugly lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:42 PM
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They rate men below average in looks, but looks aren't as high a ranking priority as it is for men. Hence the imbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 12:59 PM
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I mean, if you're not having genuine passionate good sex, then yeah, why would she give you those quickies when you need it? I feel like most guys in these situations are not being attractive towards their partner. If they feel obligated to fuck you and don't find anything out of it... There are problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:09 PM
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I've never, ever in my life, dated someone who wouldn't have sex with me. Even if they weren't in the mood they'd still take one for the team and be like, "okay make it quick". Assuming she has feelings for me, she still wins by getting some intimacy and a makeout session.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:00 PM
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Every person ever is going to settle in some degree. Everyone. Even the hottest of the hot, are getting less than ideal because it's a forever moving target. I know I'll NEVER marry a woman like Mila Kunis in her prime... Everyone else is less than ideal. This is true for men and for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:18 PM
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Cool, I also have an orgasm with just my hand. It doesn't mean it's the preferred method.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:39 PM
1

The 5 in is from a single study that's an extreme outlier that people like to use to feel better. But that study says women prefer over 7 inches, which is large.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 06:05 PM
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Young adult virgin. Like 18-21 with most people having 0-1 sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 06:04 PM
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Lol that entire link says women overwhelmingly prefer larger than average. It basically says, "Average is good enough I guess... But ideally I want something statistically rare". It does the same old annoying trope, where they latch onto cartoonishly large and be like "Sometimes big is TOO big!" But all that data basically says yeah, women prefer larger than average, until it becomes monstrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 12:33 PM
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I have known guys with really large penises who struggled in dating for that reason specifically. Sure... But not a single guy with a larger one would exchange it for an average one. Because they know while there are some cases where it causes some issues, it does more good than harm. "Average" is popular to say online because it's safe. But IRL, actions speak louder than words. I don't see many average guys being bragged about how great the sex is... But large guys? All the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:18 AM
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Yeah, I don't hear many stories of woman talking about how they stuck around with the guy because the sex was so great because his "smaller side of average dick". It's almost always, "Tee hee... He was a dick, but he had a big dick". I never hear women talk about how they had their first vaginal orgasm with a smaller than average guy, but I have many times heard women talk about how it makes sure it happens when the guy is larger. I'm sure it's popular on Reddit to say "smaller is actually bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:16 AM
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In my experience, women will say they never have vaginal orgasms, but do occasionally, and generally it's from a large penis that gets them there the first time, and reliably after that. Most women who think they can't, will eventually sleep with a guy with a large hog who knows how to use and then they will have them. Hence why women prefer larger penises.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:16 AM
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Yep... It's a symptom, not a cause A psychologist was talking about it the other day how we like to frame it as "Zoomers are more health concious, and are drinking less, sleeping earlier, etc etc"... Which is a correlation, but not causation. The reality for this isn't because zoomers suddenly just want to ditch alcohol and unhealthy life habits... But rather, they are just far less social. They aren't going to parties, hanging out in person, and doing normal social stuff, so they are naturally …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 03:07 PM
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I mean except the data that shows women are still having the same amount of sex, but men are having less. There is no other way to conclude otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 06:06 PM
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I'll admit... I'll fall for it. Like I'll click ONE video that's some dating related thing on YT, like, "Man argues with feminist balh blah" and okay I'll click it out of curiosity. Then suddenly they open up the whole sphere of related community stuff... Which I'm not really interested in, but it'll keep dropping them in until "Ooh I guess that clickbait title with a smoking hot chick at least has me interested... Okay, I'll give this one a shot." And then before you know it, there's more. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:24 PM

I guess I'm trying to backhand comment on how poorly men are picking. Instead of blaming women for being shitty... I'm asking, "Why aren't you doing a better job at vetting?" It's kind of like a woman in an abusive relationship. Yes, I feel bad, and understand the cycle... But come on girl, you see all this stuff a mile away. We don't like to give women agency on stuff like this, but I give them some leeway because they are more often dependent on men. But I give men NO sympathy, and only disdai…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:23 AM

I mean, if I needed their password they never told me it was "off limits" or something. I never tried to memorize it, but if I needed in their phone for whatever reason, they'd never refuse. I'd find that really suspicious if they suddenly felt like they wouldn't tell me their unlock if I needed to check something.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:42 PM

Me too... I've never experienced it. I never really give them a reason to. They know my phone password, email, etc... If they want to secretly snoop without my knowing (which I'm sure some have), I guess. I dunno... I'm just super open and transparent. I don't think we should keep secrets in relationships and am very upfront with communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:36 PM
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I have no issue with this. I don't understand why it's an issue... Women's prime is 20s, and it's in their interest to try and get the best partner. Isn't that what we are ALL doing? What sucks, is women have a short time to figure out how to get their best (which is why I think it's no mystery why the average age of marriage is 29, right as the wall comes). But it is what it is. That's just how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:07 PM
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Yeah, I've never had a "paranoid" partner who didn't trust me. I can't imagine how insufferable that would be. This is just a symptom of being online too much, getting the extreme hot-takes which are either virtue signals, or outrage bait. Like you said, women online will be like, "OMG no, I'd never go hiking with a guy I don't know" Meanwhile, I've done it every time I asked. But if I lived online, I'd be under the impression that NO women EVER do something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 10:23 AM
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Yes. Men and women are different. There are different standards because we are different. I don't give a shit about hypocrisy because I don't see it as hypocrisy, because men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:51 PM
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I mean natural selection would indicate it's done because it works. For instance, women will insist "Ugg I hate random dick pics!" Which may be true... But then why do guys keep sending them? Because dude's with big dicks know women will secretly find it hot and hookup with them. They obviously don't go around telling their friends about how some guy sent a picture of his huge hog so she fucked him. That's trashy. They wont go online saying, "Tee hee I don't mind" and deal with the hoard. But du…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:33 PM

Never thought of that, but it's a good point. Women DO feel horny, but not like men. But everyone is solipsistic and they think since they feel horny as well it must just be that women have better self control than those savage horny rapist men. Women are just "better" with self control. But anyone who's met lesbians know this is bullshit. Anyone who's a female who's taken testosterone can tell you it's bullshit. Anyone who's dated, can tell you it's bullshit. Evolutionary speaking, women don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:56 AM

To be fair, a small penis pretty much cuts out your dating pool to like 10% of the population, short, probably 40%
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:57 PM
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It's pure suffering for them I guess if they can't be treated like a queen everywhere they go.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:36 PM
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Yeah it's just cope. Elites with small dicks were making those. The rest of their art all had big hogs, and even their writings talk about it. No one but some insecure elite dudes who were trying to make it popular, were saying that small ones ruled. Definitely not women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:15 PM
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They did a poll in this sub, it's OVERWHELMINGLY very young people, like sub 23, virgins, or men who've only been with like 1-2 women. By that age I'd already been with like 20 chicks, so I can see how some of these men think everything is awful. But honestly, I just think this is the new normal. These guys aren't any less than they were in my generation, just that dating apps created way way way more options for women as well as men being way way way less social so they aren't interacting with …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:42 PM
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I'm not surprised at all that Reddit, of all places, has a massive user base that struggles with basic social norms and interactions. I'm very aware of the average user here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:27 PM
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This is not unique to age-gap relationships. Never said it was "women can have their preferences and it's ok but men's preferences are criticized and shamed" narrative. I never said that. I prefer younger women too. They are WAY hotter and lower maintinence. Of course men like young women. Obviously that's a male preference. I'm just pointing out the reality of huge age gaps, and what path that usually leads down. If you can find a much younger woman and she genuinely loves you and is quality, g…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:26 PM
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I'm not going to change the way I talk for outlier people who don't understand basic social standards that go without saying. That's a them problem, not a me problem. When discussing such topics, obviously, it goes without saying as a truism, that these are matters of opinion. IF you don't realize that, then I guess that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:24 PM
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Of course not. It goes without saying that we're speaking in general terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:11 PM
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I mean, 27 year olds exist too... And you can grow with them and get a life partner.... Or just be forever single allowing hedonism guide your lonely life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:15 PM
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Among young people... The data is still heavy hard D... What it's showing is men are becoming more SOCIALLY conservative, but still vote democrat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 11:46 AM
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Feminism in general is just bad... You can't go around insisting boys are dumb and need to be taught not to rape, that their masculinity is a huge problem, that men are the core root of all the problems, etc etc... Then send mixed signals like "Women really want a non masculine, femine, kind gentle man" then see quality women always running around men who embrace their masculinity. Or do things like saying, "Hey we shouldn't be determining who gets jobs based on their sex and race! That's wrong!…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 11:45 AM
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I mean do whatever makes you happy. I don't give a shit. I'm just warning... They tend to be sluts and rarely stick around. I see it all the time. I have no inherent issue with me dating a 22 year old. I just know, it's a recipe for disaster and often a waste of time. 22 year olds are smoking hot, so it's not like I would be against it because the age... I just know how these all tend to play out. The guy thinks he has something nice, but usually, just bagged a slut who's likely going to leave d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 11:25 AM
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I mean outside her league in the sense of skill and experience, not 1-10 ranking. Like she's a green military recruit, trying to outsmart a special ops Navy Seal. That dude's just going to walk all over her with his experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 11:23 AM
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Obviously I'm speaking from a matter of opinion. Obviously there isn't some peer reviewed academic research on this... FFS, this is a relationship debate sub. Not an academic platform. Redditors are so annoying. There is a reason you guys have the worst of the worst reputation of all social media. Worse than YouTube commentators.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 11:21 AM
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Oh sorry, I don't have any peer reviewed academic research available. Obviously it's life experience. Most of the young chicks dating super older guys, overlap with being slutty and eventually leaving. In regards to income, no I don't see much of a pattern. Gold diggers exist, sure, but women in general just like financial security as the masculine is generally seen a providing and security part of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 11:17 AM
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She will leave him. They always do. The relationship never lasts, and he ends up being a forever alone single guy. You'll start to see the pattern as you get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 11:16 AM
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Yeah, there is nothing inherently wrong. She can very well find a really great guy she vibes with and gets married and has kids and lives happily ever after. Happens all the time. The reason people try to discourage is, is because young people are naive and these older men are much wiser and experienced in life. She's playing outside her league. She's going to struggle figuring out who the good guys are, the losers, and the abusers. The older guys are going to be just so much better at the game,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:58 AM
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Women like that have issues, and if she's happy dating older guys to feel happy because of those issues... So be it. Usually they dont' work long term though anyways. They guy generally has to either be a controlling asshole to keep her around, or she is a huge hoe and is fucking around a ton. I'll talk to guys my age who are dating a really young college chick (Mid 30s), and brag about how they have a crazy sex life blah blah blah and how she's young and hot and hasn't been around with a billio…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:54 AM
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It's preference... Men with small dicks are far less in numbers than men with larger ones. Women also state preferences for larger ones. IF women prefer larger over smaller, they will have more sex, thus more kids. So you'll see the smaller ones have less children, reduce in numbers over time, while men with larger ones, slowly increase in numbers over generations. And that's what we are seeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:11 PM

Sorry snowflake... I forgot some people don't understand basic communication skills and that social conversations, go without saying, that things are being discussed in a general sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:57 PM

Because divorce is almost guaranteed in those scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:56 PM

Being trapped financially in a relationship you hate is terrifying. Yes, hence why it's important to just find good partners. In today's age, we aren't getting married at 20. So women just need to find better partners. Also, I don't think men want to go back because "We had more control over these bitches." But more logical as in, it just made more structural sense. It makes no sense for BOTH people to work their asses off like slaves, while the kid gets raised by strangers. It's not that we wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:17 PM

There is a psychological thing where people only view the tailwinds of others and not the headwinds. So when they look back on the past, women tend to just look at the outlier headwinds. See the bad, and don't really recognize the good. I suspect, strongly, if you asked women about the setup, the overwhelming majority of women in those situations would NOT want what you're proposing. They would say they loved the setup. Yes, sure, there were outliers where women had shitty partners... But that c…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:50 PM

I used to laugh when women would complain about that short brief period in the early 1900s when women were housewives and women would talk about how horrible that was... And I'd be like, opposed to what? Having to work 50 hours a week?! Having a whole family rely on you not to fuck up and provide for them? To being treated like an economic slave who can't rest, always working, and barely getting to enjoy time with the family? Who the fuck wants to be a man in this situation? People seem to forge…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:02 PM
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Lol my biology professor basically told the class long ago that women like assholes and big dicks, and we just have to get over it. If women truly didn't like big dicks, they'd be genetically selected out, instead of slowly getting larger with time. If women didn't like assholes, they wouldn't reproduce, and men would stop being assholes. This also kind of intersected with traits that are a net positive even if they come with some negative. For instance, sure women may not like some elements of …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:41 PM
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Most women who sleep around is because they actually have the option to bang hot guys. Women who don't generally aren't very attractive, so they don't have a whole lot of options, much less with hot guys. Second, most women sleeping around, are not doing it explicitly for sex, but also because they think that's a quick way to get a hot guy's attention and hopefully date him. But in my experience, if a chick is really hot, she has a huge number count.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:43 PM
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Sir, do you wear a top hat, and are you from the 1930s?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:08 PM
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NO one thinks that there is such a formula. People just want to increase their closing rate... To get more opportunity and more partners. That's all. Your formula, obviously isn't going to get as many female partners as a RP formula.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:36 PM
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Lol I agree... Being rejected online creates a constant pattern. As you're filtered out by the top filter universially, you start feeling, "Damn really... NO ONE decent is liking me? Am I really that low value?!" Then you get someone decent, try to work it, rejected, and it just becomes this long pattern that psychologically starts establishing you as such. But IRL, you may get rejected, which hurts, but also actually start getting rewarded and see real results with an actual quality chick you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:24 PM
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We'll be in a post singularity world, dude. NO one knows what the future past 15 years holds. It's literally impossible. Once we hit singularity it's a complete unknown. That's why it's called the singularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:54 AM

I was talking to someone last night about this. The issue is opportunity for the most part. Most people these days just don't have as many chances at bat. The internet, COVID isolation, and commodification of every aspect of life, has ruined our social instinct. We just go out less and don't come across people as much. I know of plenty of really attractive, fun, quirky, intelligent women, who aren't finding dates and are single. They'll try OLD, get fucked and dumped, and never return, and inste…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:53 AM
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you shouldn't be watching videos to learn those skills. You have to do the work yourself, and that means putting yourself out there. Bwahahah this is why BP advice is so terrible. It's always just, "figure it out!" As if these people haven't tried that. Obviously they want to be successful. But people not raised with good social skills, need training and tutoring, like any other skill they lag behind in. Just learning it solo, on your own, with no guidance, after tons of failure, and clearly beh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:49 AM

Ummm I'm just repeating what I saw through a documentary that tracked the social changes and shifts, specifically around Football. Maybe they are just lying and making it all up, and all the supporting evidence and arguments was just fabricated from thin air. That there wasn't some movement at elite universities to reclaim masculinity after suffrage, and all those other quotes, groups, and ancillary evidence they gave, was just fabricated.... I dunno. I don't have the patience to question histor…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:32 AM

Well many of these guys, "Themselves" isn't getting them laid and getting them partners. Being yourself has clearly failed, so they work on becoming a person that is more attractive to women. If BP people like yourself had a solution that had measurably more success, then men would naturally switch over to the more successful program. But so far, BP advice and guides, are massive failures for dude's struggling with finding partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:59 PM
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The reality people don't want to admit is women don't give a shit about these things when they are attracted to the guy. They only care when they are already dissinterested, so all these little things stand out and can be used as weapons. Honestly, probably all of these women complaints can reduce down to that. Guys going for women who aren't attracted to them to begin with... So they are seeing toxic things, because those women just aren't interested. If she's attracted to the guy, they aren't …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:37 PM

It's not at all... That's a common misconception. You probably haven't genuinely looked into it much. It's about mimicking traits of successful people, understanding why that makes them successful, and then internalizing it until it becomes who you are - a successful person. Things like "negging" and stuff are really just playful teasing to show you don't have her on a pedestal like other guys, but you guys interpret it as emotional abuse to create insecurities and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:24 PM

Great argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:47 PM

That's fine. It's a bell curve, not a hard science like physics. And you may do much of the "red pill bullshit" and just don't realize it, because RP delivers their messages in really blunt and sometimes gross ways... But often I've found a lot of BP people agree with RP stuff, when you tame it down and reword it. Keep the same message, just deliver it differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:45 PM

Fencing isn't an aggressive high octane activity. It's about finness and agility. Not really much brute force and muscle involved. ANd of course you don't agree, because it blames your world view on leading to this. Naturally you're going to resist any criticism of your personal world view leading to this. You're free to present alternative reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:25 PM

Yeah, people will say, "Hey boys cry more, share you emotions be more vulnerable, blah blah blah" then soon as they do, women get the ick and run off... Lol. There is a reason men socially evolved the way they did. BP types will insist to do X, men do X, and are getting shitty results, so they are abandoning your type of social insistence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:23 PM

Great argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:21 PM

What? The modern narrative is that masculinity is toxic. That working out and getting fit is an "insecure bro hobby". That not being accepting to things like dating a slut or sex worker is, "old fashion". Guys who work too hard are "hustle culture idiots". Wanting traditional family values is now a regressive right wing thing. Hanging out with the guys is "an environment of toxic sexism", etc etc... Guys are being told doing guy things is bad, and they are bad for enjoying it. So guys are going …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:15 PM

Or you know.... Also the left demonizing men and trying to castrate masculinity. The left has all but tried to abandon any sense of masculine values in replace of feminine ones. This is inherently going to cause a male counter reaction. This literally isn't the first time this happened. It also happened once before during the sufferage movement. The progressive elements of soceity became so demasculating, men in elite institutions started swinging back aggressively with masculine activities and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:10 PM
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Dude, I was just talking about this. It seems like men around here already feel like subservient to women by default. There is that post here where the guy is talking about how it's BS that women will have a kid then demand she never work again, forcing the guy to do all the lifting whether he likes it or not. That's a situation that just doesn't even enter my frame of concern. But for this dude, it was a genuine concern he was angry about. Like, in a normal relationship, that DOESN'T happen. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:17 PM
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Okay, good luck out there viewing every woman as an evil succubus, and somehow trying to figure out how to have a healthy relationship lol This is my throwaway account since the RP one was banned. I'm a well known RP OG from back in the day. I promise you, your thinking is self destructive. If you think every woman is going to end up like that... It means YOU have the problem selecting quality women. Full stop. That's a you issue, not a woman issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:34 PM
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I take it your young without kids? At my age, it's considered a sign of prestige and status to have an at home wife. Men generally WANT that, as it reflects positively as them being a capable provider, rather than someone struggling in poverty. Generally having the wife stay home for the first 5 years is something most people my age prefer if they can pull it off... Then usually she gets back to work. The women who dont stay at home are either struggling financially, single moms, or super career…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:29 PM
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I dunno... I feel like back in the hayday it was "The game sucks, it's all fucking ruined, nothing is going to change, so may as well take advantage of it and exploit the game as is... But, still strive to find a proper wife if you can." With time, as culture changed, culture war started creating new conversations, a movement to return to traditional roles started emerging, so now people are realizing, "Oh okay, the game still sucks, but now it looks like there are small windows opening up to ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:58 PM
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Okay this isn't about child support. This is about being a housewife... That's ALWAYS going to be a family decision. I don't know of many women who just refuse and stay at home while the husband hates it. Usually it's a luxury and the guy feels like he's able to do it, and prefers it because no one wants strangers raising their kid. It's always preferred to have mom stay home and watch the kids if you can. Many men will actually work harder just to make this a reality if it's within their means.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:12 PM
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My ex said she met her last BF off of Reddit and it gave me the ick and still does. I can't shake it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:21 PM
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Just look at the stats... It's super young virgins that dominate this place. Someone posted it before.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:13 PM
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I was listening to Rebel Wisdom this morning and the guest made a really good point with online dating: It creates a filter. Where people all together, set the first phase filters. This creates an issue because it dissallows interesting combos, which is normally where the magic is at. For instance, when looking for a house if you just look for homes based off filters, you'll probably end up with the same cookie cutter standard average as everyone else... It's this many sqft, in this neighborhood…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:17 PM
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I think you're right... But let's enter the more realistic world, where say, 5 sexual partner counts is the floor... I'd like to see a meta analysis on these studies, but I think you're right that fuckbois are more likely to cheat. If it's a guy with a high body count, he likely has a lot of women becoming available to him, which is going to constantly put him in areas of temptation... Something that's "normal" for most mid tier women, but rare for most men. So we have to unwind it a bit. I feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 01:40 PM
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Usually it's not. Usually it's top 20-30%. People tend not to marry the best of the best option they've ever had, but someone who's good enough to pass the threshold and the timing is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 01:33 PM
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If you break it down, it's probably the biggest motivator, whether we are aware of it or not. Our primary drive is to reproduce. That's our purpose: To keep the biological machine running, with optimal settings possible. Generally, this is achieved through local status of the individual... So people are driven to attain increased status, because increased status, increases mate value. Almost all of your actions, one way or another, are circling around status, even if you insist it's not. For ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 02:35 PM
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Usually the guy she's fucking, she wants to be with, but the guy wont commit, so she's getting big dick on the side while she finds a guy to settle for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:29 PM
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Have you considered YOURE one of the narrow minded actors which is why you don't realize it? You just see all the removed comments and think, "Hmm must be a hateful troll!" But since you're so in lockstep with the narrow worldview you don't sense any of the issues, because you're fine. Like a fish wondering why humans are worried about drowning.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:40 PM
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The social structures don't just arbitrarily come out of the ether. They are the result of natural selection finding optimal paths.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 01:20 PM

Yeah I think so... I'm mid 30s, and started having panic attacks once this reality started to hit me. In my 20s I felt like I could take my time and had no rush for anything. Then I stopped dating, and once I got back in, I realized all those quality chicks were GONE, like all of them, were locked up... Now you're left with former sluts and non marriageable types. Every now and then, one will hit the market after ending an LTR but she's only on the market for a brief period of time and every guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:33 PM

Huh? The more women I meet the more insufferable it becomes to date because they aren't the same enough. I have a specific type that I consider marriage material, as does everyone else. Finding that type of person is hard for EVERYONE - except people who are just dating for looks. It's obnoxious. I wish women were more alike, but unfortunately they aren't. I think you just need to stop watching RP videos that use the same strawman sorority girl and party girl as the strawman stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:56 AM

Because SOCIETY cares. SOCIETY doesn't want women being assaulted, so society treats men much more harshly for engaging in behaviors that can lead to more dangerous actions. And it cares less, for behaviors that are non threatening.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:51 PM

How does any of that matter? Potential matters. Yes men aren't supposed to use their superior strength, but they aren't supposed to sexually harass women neither. The difference, however, is a guy doing creepy shit has a real possibility of turning it real dark real fast, and gives women a genuine reason for concern. A woman doing it to me, barely makes me momentarily uncomfortable and forget about it shortly after. That's how little I'm concerned. So naturally, society is going to treat things …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:15 PM
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There aren't "tons of women" like this... And n-count matter to tons of men and would like to just be able to weed through the deception and not waste their time with chicks who fuck a new guy every month or so while single.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 02:42 AM
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Most men care about how it IS, not how it SHOULD be. And complain about the reality of things. We can all philosophize all day about how ideally the world should be. But more people are just going to bitch about the reality that it's going to be near impossible to find a quality chick who hasn't fucked a bunch of strangers of Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:09 PM
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Dating apps scare me. I do NOT want to date a chick who used those apps to fuck around. It really makes me paranoid because it's so easy for them to get Chad dick whenever they want, until they are "ready" for a relationship. Which just instinctively grosses me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:59 PM
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I'm mid 30s. Now it's all attractive single moms who flock to me as a catch. Which I want nothing of.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:56 PM
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The genders have been arguing since forever dude... It didn't really "change" much on Reddit until the pickup world and radical feminists clashed... Then Tumblr died, and the radfems came to Reddit, creating a ton of tension. But before that, it was mostly dudes so there wasn't much gender war. Just guys all kind of agreeing. But once the women came, dudes became white knights and virtue signaled, and then things reverted right back to stupid gender war shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 07:33 PM
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Yeah, but if you're a virgin, she'll know and cut you some slack and "understand" and allow you to compensate with lack of skill with the connection. Guys with small dicks are the same as well, as they know women are going to be disappointing so they build the relationship first so she's more forgiving. I mean, sure, there are going to be SOME guys who probably wanna hold out for marriage, or feel like they are already so old as a virgin, they may as well ride it out, but I think overall they fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 07:24 PM
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I know so many guys who tell me they are waiting for a woman they have somewhat of an emotional connection to. There are many hookup sites but many men stay away Insecurity. They probably WANT to do it, but know they'll suck in bed, so they want to make sure the first girl is emotionally connected as to assure he doesn't feel sexually rejected. Being seen as a bad lover is the worst thing in the world for many men, especially virgins. Further, those hookup sites aren't easy for men in general, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 06:28 PM

15 year olds go to nightclubs and bars. 15 and 19 isn't pedo... ffs...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 12:25 PM

19 isn't a grown man.... Reddit is such a puritan hellscape it's so funny. No one in the world except Americans, would think this is somehow inappropriate. It's so fucking weird how obsessed you guys are with sexual purity, permission, and rules. Like a bunch of religious puritans lol Europeans don't find this strange. Stop it with your puritan cultural imperialism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 12:20 PM

The rest of the world isn't California. Get the fuck over it, 15 year olds have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 11:55 AM
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I once went over to eros.com to see what my city's local whores were like, just out of curiosity, and I was actually quite surprised. Apparently, a premium, top tier sexy whore, is only like 500 bucks at the MOST. It only goes beyond that when they just want to filter out regular dudes so they only "date" a rich dude like once a week. Most whores are like 200, give or take, for decent looking cuties. I dunno why I was expecting more money, but for 200 bucks I guess I was expecting the low end. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 11:37 AM
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I remember a BDSM chick was in my college human sexuality class. In one breadth she's like, "No I'm not a prostitute, because what I'm doing isn't sex! I'm creating a non sexual experience". Then 10 minutes later she's arguing how just because there is no penetration, doesn't mean it's not sex. That BDSM is absolutely a sexual experience. I just think she didn't want to admit she's a whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 11:28 AM
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It's rage bait. Very very very very few women have those comically insane standards. Most dimes would be more than happy with a guy clearing 250k a year. That would be considered "rich" by most of their standards. 400k is like an insane amount of money for salary. Usually those incomes are not in salary form. Usually bonuses, commissions, equity, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 11:21 AM
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Trump also had multiple women, consistently, and in detail, explain how he would fuck them when they were underage because he was into taking virginity... Yet, here we are. I don't think these people care tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 12:52 AM
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According to experts, generally it's actually making your appreciation very clear and blunt. Literally telling him how much you appreciate his hard work, what he does, how he handles stress, etc... Do things for him, but make it clear you're doing it because you feel like he's done so much and you're so grateful. Men have a very innate cultural and biological knob where we, as the disposable gender, feel a strong desire to feel useful and our work be considered valuable. Men LIKE to be the provi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:49 PM
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Lot's of high power guys are into BDSM because they crave the sense of vulnerability and having power removed from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:55 PM
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I mean, putting effort into a relationship and having her desire you, seems kind of required. I don't just want a fuck slave walking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 10:22 AM
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These conversations so much sense after I saw the survey that showed half this sub are virgins lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:02 AM
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If they are going out with groups of people, it's literally inevitable that it'll be hard to be lonely. Obviously don't send them out into the woods by themselves. That's how you get a Teddy Z
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:42 PM
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People have let their kids outside in those conditions all the time. It's just today people are paranoid of their kid encountering even the slightest challenge, worried they'll get the shit kicked out of them. Then these kids grow up, completely unaware of how to deal with challenges. This is the problem. They are not anti fragile. You are so afraid of them having to solve a problem, potentially fail at it, that you wont let them outside. So now we have a generation of soy boys
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:41 PM
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Head over to any of the local R4R subreddits... 80% of the women looking for a guy is looking for a hung dude. When given the chance, they almost always want a certain size... Which apparently doesn't matter and is a complete coincidence I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:57 PM
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Women are fucking liars. It's a conspiracy to deny it matters because they don't consider it mattering "in a relationship"... But obviously it fucking matters. Anyone with common sense notice it matters. Just look around at how guys get different treatment from women when they do. Dude's who are hung get a suspiciously large amount of female attention. They always seem to get NSA sex from all their exes. It's the dumbest conspiracy women deploy. But I get it. They dont' want to admit it matters,…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:46 AM
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It's just a stupid word to say "Things men do that I don't like." There is nothing toxic about anything masculine. Men are different than women, and women need to stop looking at men as "flawed women". Most of the things people consider "toxic masculinity" are part of the trade off of having elements of the masculine that society values and deems important. But they all go hand in hand. For instance, you can't have a strong, capable, resilient, warrior class of people ready to defend the country…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:26 AM
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Destiny apparently has a huge cock though
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 12:29 AM
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Oh, well maybe these guys just suck or can’t get with women who accept them? Like what’s even the point of being in a relationship if you’re trapped in your own head every time you wish you could express that you’re not doing well? I think it's more nuanced than being a complete shutout, or massively vulnerably open. It's obviously a spectrum, and women react preferably in a bell shape on the "less emotional" side of the spectrum. If you're passionate with big feelings, it's great you found some…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 11:12 PM
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I'm not saying it's a universal thing... But we obviously have to speak in general. Many men learn that women want a guy to be "vulnerable and emotional" but once he does she's like "eww not like that." I do think there is a male loneliness epidemic, but men aren't MORE stoic than they were before. It's just a changing world that actively works against male drives... Less community in general, less mate opportunity, issolated people, work that isn't meaningful, less of a role in providing for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:34 PM
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He actually worked it in his favor... Apparently she never dated other men, and just women, who she only hooked up with a few times. Until recently, apparently she ran off with some twink ass dude lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:15 PM
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Every poly guy I met, who was like that, had the 1 penis policy... So basically, "Yeah my GF can hook up with other chicks and bring me in if she wants".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:14 PM
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I don't think that's "toxic"... I think there are valuable, useful, purposes for these things that benefit society. Men are expected, especially by women, to be assured, confident, secure, and reliable. Society needs men to achieve and support the greater tribe and family. So men are expected to become more resiliant and conditioned to better handle diversity so they are capable of enduring hard times. Hence why society, and especially women (no matter how much they say it), are massively turned…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:11 PM
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