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As a third party, what I surmise from this is the difference in expectations. There are people who have high expectations, and won’t settle for less. It seems however, you’ve understood the harsh realities of the world and tempered with your expectations. Neither is better than the other. The other guys just have higher expectations than you do by comparing things on an overall perspective (with exes, past experiences) but you could say you are contented with just how your partner treats you. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 05:30 AM
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I feel this is a reasonable cause. As much as I hate it, this is a logical reason. But, that is simply a matter of fate in which it’s just “too bad” that your girlfriend didn’t like. While it may not mean or represent anything about her feelings towards me, I’d say I’m justified in being salty and upset that she experimented like that with others and not me. In life, things happen and sometimes you don’t get the best scenario possible. But I guess, the same can be said that just because it’s a “…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 05:23 AM
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The second point is moot. There was a piece of literature floating around a while back on Reddit, suggesting that men on a whole have been having less sex than women in the recent years. Granted, I can’t recall if it was a survey which could call into question the accuracy. But to that point, we should keep in mind that men on a whole over-report while women under-report on matters related to sex. So, even if it were a survey, the fact that men are still having less sex than women suggests that …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 07:49 AM
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I mean, these are likely uneducated women anyway. Strong statement, but I’ll justify. Anyone with a decent college education, or at least some level of critical thinking will understand that to do an experiment, you observe instead of asking. This is seen in many fields that deal with human inputs. An observation study triumphs that of one based off opinions. This is conveniently also why entrepreneurs are told to “observe” and to never take a customer’s “assurance” as positive reinforcement. Pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 06:26 AM
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Most of what you highlighted explains a drop in rates of sex irrespective of gender. Lack of irl interaction, isolation, less drinking all affects both men and women. Problem is that one gender is having much less sex than the other. Maybe if you narrowed your factors into that which affects men individually, you’ll get a more relevant conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 06:20 AM
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Then on behalf of the rest of the world, I express my condolences for your lack of education. You want most women to find you attractive because that improves your chances. If 50% of the women around find you attractive, that means out of 10 people you meet, you can expect 5 to like you. By extension, a possible date. Per your logic, I should be able to go without brushing my teeth, without caring about my fitness and looks. I can go be and alcoholic and smoke a pack everyday. As long as that on…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:18 PM
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Tell me you’re american without telling me you are an american. You have no understanding of whats stats are for, and why averages exist. You might as well say “Why do we need the majority of buildings to not collapse? You just need one that doesn’t - the one you stay in”.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:10 PM
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I don’t like the attitude and games. But it seems to work for many - if not most - of the guys that try it. Even men who never liked games admit that it helps increase their chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:35 AM
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house and nice jobs…. attractive to women Plus for women and men looking to settle (not so much young men) women wants to have family with you Plus for women and men looking to settle (not so much for young men) removes risk of STDs Plus for everyone harmless to society Plus for women, and her neighbourhood (not so much for young men) kids will get more stable and less abusive place Plus for women and society (not for young men) Now enlighten me how and why should any self-respecting young man p…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 12:06 PM
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No one will care about how much money he makes? Watch him open a bottle of expensive alcohol and see the girls flock to him. Or, pay the tab for the people at the club and see his status rise. Like it or not, money is the ultimate status in today’s world. It may not solve everything, but it sure as heck helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 04:24 PM
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They’re not sexually attracted to the things you mentioned. They’re sexually attracted to people who have those things because they’re sexually attracted to status. Someone with money, accomplishments, or intelligence likely has a higher social status than without. A Harvard student will likely be more sexually attractive than a random student in a small town. Having that rubber stamp of approval paints you in a certain way others are helplessly attracted to. In a similar spirit, men who put on …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:26 PM
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Virginity pledges?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:46 AM
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Any signs that we should look out for? I’m not that great at recognizing game yet
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:46 AM
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The rest of yall only learn they’re to be avoided after you get burned multiple times? And also, how women mostly claim they can’t stop themselves from going back to that toxic ex or fboy that gaslit them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 12:54 AM
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Pedestal.. altars are for spiritual/religious purposes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 10:44 AM
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You’re phrasing it as a problem only women face. The premise is this - Only women have to assume risks from men at these parties. Therefore, she is qualified to do these (relatively radical actions) and these just because only women has to face those risks. Problem is, it’s not a problem specific to women. Men alike face them. Therefore, these radical and extremist solutions are not justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 05:34 AM
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Yet women in those roles themselves refuse to be patronized like that. It hinders their career progression and makes it less likely for them to be hired amongst other repercussions. You’re a Scientist and would have worked with this renowned Scientist but he backed out due to MeToo? There goes your career. I respect you staying firm and objectively unbiased, but you should know this attitude will only lead to more segregation by gender. Wall street will avoid hiring women for fears of such alleg…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 04:03 AM
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Your entire premise is what led to the Wall Street backfiring on MeToo. Supervisors avoid hiring, meeting, travelling with women counterparts because “treat whole batch as poisonous”. Yet conveniently, women and feminists alike attacked the innocent men for doing this because “if you over-react, you must be guilty”. Could you give me a proper solution because evidently, you use that argument when convenient, but shoot men down for the same
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 03:43 AM
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You seem to conveniently forget men too assume risks when they go to a frat party. If you accidentally offend a drug dealer or someone shady, you best be watching your environment. Or if you hit on an attached girl accidentally, you best be prepared. Yall speak as if women are the only ones assuming any and every form of risks. Men are just better suited to protect themselves, but that’s not really our fault
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 03:41 AM
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Surprisingly, people on BP and PP threads will die on the hill debating otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 06:42 PM
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Which is why I might have chalked it up to being attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 02:22 PM
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And somehow one of the most widely echoed sentiments - agreed by both men and women on reddit - on a thread is about this very phenomenon of men having no intrinsic value. Edit: It’s pretty evident men face issues just like women, but the most glaring one is how we are essentially invisible unless we have something to provide. So how about you stop debating and denying this exists because it very much does. Edit2: The equivalent would be men mansplaining that women face no inequality, no danger …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:42 AM
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You’re taking the most radical and extreme part of the TRP minority (incel-level) and using that to discredit everything else TRP says. Dating threads don’t say those, you know? That women are as opportunistic as men, that women like masculine men who disagrees with them, that women still like jocks instead of the nerdy geeks; You learn that there is something better than being kind, smart, successful and wait for women to come to you at the end of the day. Instead, it’s better being the chad th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:40 AM
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I grew up in Circle 2, but granted I’m in Asia. Still sucks having been led by the blind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:32 AM
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Common sense? When 9 in 10 people you approach - both online and offline - tells you otherwise, especially while you’re in your impressionable years, how likely are you to stay with your own perspective? If everybody around you says “be kind and women will like you”, from 8 years old up till 15, you reckon your own idea could trump the hundreds if not thousands of voices who say otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:29 AM
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You’re trying to rationalize an existing situation to your worldview. If there was no such problem, the sub would be dead long ago - both FDS and TRP. Reality is very easy - a solution can only exist and be as big as the problem is. Lower wages, healthcare, sexlessness, datelessness etc are all problems that have found themselves a captivating audience on reddit. In short, no amount of rationalisation can explain how the communities continue to grow. Because at its very core, it can only grow wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:34 AM
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Education on gender dynamics, particularly for men. Women are - from young - constantly told that men will use them for sex and ghost, that men will play with their feelings, that men will promise one thing and leave you for the next young thing. And for the most part this is true. For men however, they are told to treat women right, buy them gifts, to listen to them, that women do no wrong, that women are angels and have to be treated as such. It’d do both genders well, if men are told from you…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:26 AM
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And that’s why there’ll be men that play into the fboy attitude, sleep around and lead the girl on only to ghost after they get what they want. Life is like that, and I shun both genders for thinking people are angels.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:10 AM

It was. Dude said he didnt want his partner posting those photos online. In short, he’ll walk away if she did. No one’s controlling anyone. Just a difference in values.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 05:18 AM
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Ethical or not, it gets the job done. Your entire premise is “your actions are unethical to us, so you have to stop so I can do my vetting properly”. That’s a naive point of view. You can never get people to change or do things differently for your sake, without providing something equally good. In short, there’s nothing in it for men to change just because you deem it unethical. Like it or not, still gets them into your pants so there’s that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:09 AM
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Oh cmon, I’m a dude on our side but no way I can justify your arguments. You essentially assume everything with no backup evidence or anything. Might as well go out and say I assume god and aliens exist, and they’re having a full blown war out there over their population going extinct just because.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:16 AM
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For casual or serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:13 AM
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I feel like the term internalised misogyny is horrendously overused. Every argument in this world can be simply brushed away with the idea that it’s systemic and built into our culture. Men do X and women do Y - Ingrained misogyny; Explained phenomenon happens - patriarchy; Why does Ice float on water - Cultural bias. Sure, it’s a point to consider but the entire argument holds almost no water.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:06 AM
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Can women make up their minds? When convenient, you pull out one of two arguments - we do it for ourselves; we do it for you so you have to pay more. At this point, it sounds like all modern feminists do is pull out arguments whenever convenient to back their claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 03:31 AM
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Childless women make more than childless men. Any sources? And if it’s true, we must have bent so far backwards we can probably smell our ass crack right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:53 AM
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I completely agree in those instances. However, I would support instances where it was a dude being falsely led to believe they were raising their biological kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 12:26 PM
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Scientists deal with research, and absolutes. There’s a reason we have Engineers and Politicians - people who take science and apply them pragmatically to reality. And yes, I take societal expectations with more credibility than Science. You see, there are many things Science says is possible, but only so theoretically. It would never make it in reality. If I were to drink 90% alchohol, I could kill the Covid-19 virus from the inside. If I were to ingest Detergent, find a way to get bleach into …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 08:32 AM
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Many peoples’ experiences, and the 7 upvotes I have. Sure, not representative but worth considering. Any in college would be sufficiently socially aware and calibrated that correcting a name pronunciation is effortless. Wouldnt your claim that people in their 20s aren’t developed, and hence vulnerable be more difficult to prove? Considering people are drafted, enlisted, allowed to drink, fraternise, and vote upon turning 21? Seems hard for you to argue against what society deems developed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 07:46 AM
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That might be a “you” thing, not a universal experience
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:37 AM

Women should go for the ugliest …. Yes, or was that the answer you were expecting? The whole point is, women’s values are temporarily inflated by youth and looks. Nothing wrong with utilising that to their advantage, frankly. But it comes with a foreseeable disadvantage. As they age and the temporary inflation weans off, the difference between the two partners’ values will start showing. Note, I know that this is a very crude, and logical way of representing the entire scenario - and obviously n…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 05:42 AM
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What if he had 2 previous partners - 1 from a one night stand, 1 more from a short term relationship with someone he met at a club? And then, basically made out with multiple women on the dance floor in the clubs?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 02:27 AM
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Am actually a man who has thought over this various times. Don’t get me wrong, she’s wonderful and all. But, she had casual sex, one night stands, short term relationships with one she met from the club, and made out with multiple people while at the club. All perfectly normal behaviour and if I might add, fairly conservative history given she partied frequently back then. But it’s just, I’m facing issues dealing with her past, like how other men have plowed her in doggystyle before. How she eng…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 02:25 AM
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No, casual sex means sex without commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 02:06 AM
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I think you forgot some important differences. When men say “fuckboys do better”, they’re not referring to committed relationships. They’re talking about casual sex and hookups, where they can simply pump and dump, breaking the woman’s heart. It’s a long beaten horse that women seek different qualities between a hookup, and a stable relationship. That’s why somehow, many or in fact most women try things out with a fuckboy only to realize he never wanted anything more to do with her. Then, and on…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 02:02 AM
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Then men should demand for higher pay to be honest. If you’re carrying heavy loads, which women aren’t - be it capability or not - it still warrants a higher effort and thus more pay.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/06/21 12:25 PM
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Are you an antivaxxer too?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 11:02 AM
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What do you mean by married names?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 10:33 AM
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Why the undermining and borderline mockery of the sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 10:27 AM
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And that’s your opinion, and your body. The person who replied literally said she can enjoy sex without orgasms. Are you that dense that you literally cannot see how someone else’s body can react differently from yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 10:15 AM
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Source? Evidence? How so? Your only argument here is “I’m a woman, and I don’t like hookups”. Therefore, millions of other women must be like me and dislike hookups too.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 10:13 AM
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So women are collectively realizing that opening up casually for sex does not benefit them? Empowered or not, they’re strung along most of the time if they do so. I wonder when they will almost entirely regress back to the previous era where courting and chivalry are back in the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 02:17 AM
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Blanket statement is true - both genders in Gen Z are having less sex than before. But men are more drastically affected than women. So, I’d make the statement that men are worse off than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 02:14 AM
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Yes, both genders are having less sex than before. But men are more drastically affected than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 02:13 AM
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Short term relationships are still considered casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 02:10 AM
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I’d be more inclined to say that women as a gender is inherently valued. Cannot say the same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 01:58 AM
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Wrong. If some men are cheating, it’s other men that are paying the price for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 12:35 AM
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OP chooses not to respond to this because it goes against his point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 11:04 AM
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And where did OP suggest that all relationships are transactional? Your entire point here is: “it doesn’t hold for everyone”. Which is why I brought up - People say humans don’t eat shit, humans like money, humans are manipulative. Everything with regards to humans or social sciences deals in majority. No one talks about these trends as if it identifies for everyone. There will always be people that eat shit, don’t like money, are not manipulative. So, what was the whole point of your argument? …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 02:22 AM
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Broad brush statements are for the majority of humans. This is super-imposable. If 80% of humans like money, I can be sure that 8 out of 10 people that I pick out of a random lineup like money. I can be sure that everyone I approach on the street has a 8/10 chance of liking money. And if I’m advertising a service, a good idea will be to provide a cashback rebate. Because 8/10 of the people are my consumers. You try to act and come off as though you understand statistics. “Broad brush statements …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 02:02 AM
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The worse kind of argument that adds no value. Every one knows humans act differently. Social Sciences always identified trends that are true for the vast majority, not all. Humans don’t drink piss. Humans don’t eat fecal matter. Humans need water to survive. Yet, how many people do we know defy those above statements? We all fucking know that not all. You trying to point it out irks me because you add literally 0 value to the damn argument, while assuming the deposition that we’re all stupid AN…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 01:57 AM
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I don’t know the long term playout, but this is the equivalent of the brain drain of engineers. Our engineers are the ones creating value and delivering day-to-day material needs. Water, transport, electricity etc are designed and assembled by them. But the recent brain drain into tech and finance, alongside the plausible irreplacement for skilled engineers could mean an irreversible loss in experience and knowledge. As the retiring batches of engineers leave the workforce, so does their accumul…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 02:13 PM
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I’d be pretty curious what they recommend for the sex-lessness for men should be addressed. I think until we acknowledge that sex is an inherent part of human nature - that it is necessary for survival (Maslow’s hierarchy) - there’s no way forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 01:59 PM
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I can understand your perspective. I’m simply younger, and in a less radical country. I’d argue we are both in vastly different stages of life, and hence the differing positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:48 AM
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That is merely the sexual aspect. Commitment in relationships come in many forms. You can commit resources and time (one of the bigger differences between relationships and fuck buddies). The commitment to build a life outside of sex, with the woman. This is why men prefer to merely dwell in the FWB and FB sexual arrangements, where they can decide not to provide commitment. And some, if not most women however, tend to end up hoping a guy that slept with would commit and see them as a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:40 AM
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So men are naturally threatening, regardless of whether they have sex or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:50 AM
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And yet, these assumptions give rise to the models, on which real-world applications are derived. You can even claim the model works, so long as the assumptions are relatively accurate. Most underlying assumptions of the stable marriage algorithm are actually reasonable and could be extrapolated to the vast majority of people. Your idea that theories, models and algorithms are invalid in reality are false. It’s not entirely accurate, but more precise than any other estimations. How do you think …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:46 AM
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Then why are there so many women complaining about men pumping and dumping. About how they thought the men wanted more, how maybe he’d commit to her if they had sex more often?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:38 AM
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Darling, you evidently don’t have any real world understanding of the workforce. CEOs are huge. What can your thousands of followers do? CEOs have access to envisioning the path of a corporation, access to thousands of employees, access to possibly multiple thousands or millions of capital. Why else do you think people are vying to be the C-suite employees of your firms like Apple, Dyson, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan. Fame is nothing but a child’s toy. A CEO at any of these big firms will always be …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:52 AM
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Not forgetting the golden ratio between forehead, nose and mouth. High cheekbones for both, and particularly sharp jawline for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:41 AM
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Why is it threatening?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:26 AM
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A more radical phrasing acknowledged by FDS and TRP is: Men gate-keep commitment, while women gate-keep sex. The result is both genders trading each. The idea of almost every relationship (friends, colleagues, classmates) being inherently transactional is too taboo for many on here. That is, the idea that relationships are generally built on both genders trading things of equal value (with fun and enjoying the company as add-ons). But no, they will shame you for finding sex a big part of the rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:25 AM
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Which is why, it would still be better to approach than to be approached. The idea is, that if you were approached by them, you might not have been their first choice. Hence, settled for you. Whereas, if you approach them, you’ll get whoever is highest on your list. Therefore, regardless of age, it’s always better to be approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:25 PM
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I think you forget that it’s an algorithm. It’s a marriage algorithm if I believe, and repeat iterations have shown that the party who is approached tends to be settled for, while the one approaching gets the best of his/her picks. Although of course, the algorithm relies on some assumptions, but none of which you pointed out here. Edit: Here it is - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stable_marriage_problem Quite a fair bit to digest, but take the time to run through it and you’ll understand the l…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:21 PM
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Or a different species laid eggs, from which a chicken hatched from some.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 04:15 AM
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Well I mean, The Rock would immediately come to mind whenever I think of a bald chad
/r/TheRedPill02/06/21 09:38 AM
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Correction: “Most women tend to prefer men taller than themselves”. Overall, you are conflating the rules that dictate discussions for the likes of Scientific Papers and Dissertations, and applying them to informal discussions like those you see on Reddit. Another point is that you mistakenly confuse the rules on language used for Social Sciences and Hard Sciences. Firstly, it should be noted that Reddit discussions operate on an informal basis. The set of rules by which it operates is different…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 07:13 PM
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To be completely fair, it’s far easier to succeed when you target the vast majority. If 80% of the opposite gender responds to a particular behaviour, that technically (forgive my stats) could mean there is a 8 in 10 chance that any particular woman I approach fits the demographic. And if I were to hit on 100 different women, I’d have a far more successful run than otherwise; I can use said theories and be correct 80% of the time on a particular woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 04:00 PM
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Theories - at least in the field of Social Sciences - aren’t meant to describe or explain everyone. It’s more of a trend, a regression line. There will always be a group of outliers, a bunch of lone coordinates. But there will always be a particular behaviour or theory that explains the majority of the people. Some simple trends observable in society: 1) Women prefer to date men who earn more. Theory, yes. Proven, yes. 2) Women prefer men who are taller than themselves. Theory, yes. Proven, yes.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:56 PM
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Is the comparison inclusive of lost income and career progression? Jobs that require a Masters definitely pay more than with Bachelors’ but how much more?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/05/21 11:04 AM
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Doesn’t it only support OP? Cause women can only “be”, so they resort to these artificial temporary means of “becoming”. But it’s not really “becoming” either, cause it is easily attainable and has no inherent value.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 04:35 AM
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And somehow there are soooo many articles by women themselves on how they can’t help but be attracted to less than desirable traits. That if they could turn back time, they’d have known better about how it’s better to resist those fboys. Can’t quite say the same about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:46 AM
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It sounds like it is. And that’s where most men are angry about. That women would lie and contribute other factors like “Personality, providing, being nice”, when the direct opposite is what works. If women would stop lying about it, then maybe men would know how to better themselves and there’d be less of such anger. When it comes to men, it would seem we generally tell the truth when girls ask for dating advice. Can’t quite say the same for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:51 AM
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Are you even aware what English majors learn? Law and Business majors do well on their own. There’s no need for someone to study the ins and outs of English, the history and cultural elements of said language to understand how to practice law. While it can be arguable Law revolves around English and the language itself, the depths at which it dives into is shallow at best. In other words, the law is written in very specific terms that is widely approved across the board. You’re attempting to jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:40 AM
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What kind of education we talking about Last I recall, most degrees women choose aren’t involved in STEM. And even in the arts and social sciences - Economics or Political Science or stretching it a bit further, Sociology, the enrolment is very low. Where most women seem to go to are your Arts majors that don’t really pass as education. Music, English, Literature, Global Studies, Gender Studies. Hate to break it to you, but a PhD in these fields aren’t nearly as valuable - status and monetary wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:25 AM
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spending quality time together is literally necessary... while Flowers, cooking, cleaning, and taking people to restaurants are not Again, so you reckon you know better than other people in their relationship? At the end of the day, isn’t it a mere opinion that you believe that healthy relationships can’t exist without quality time, but it can even in the absence of flowers, cleaning and cooking (examples of gifts and acts of service that a fairly large percentage of the population actually desi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 04:06 AM
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No one is denying all couples spend time together. The question at hand is whether the other various Love Languages (Acts, Words, Gifts, Touch) are as essential as your all-mighty Quality Time. Your entire argument was “only Quality Time is crucial for a healthy relationship”, to which many people out there will vehemently disagree and claim their love language is more crucial for a healthy relationship. But when people turn around to demonstrate their preference, you immediately write them off …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:52 AM
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Can you prove your last sentence? Is there scientific evidence and conclusive research that one cannot have a connection without all that time spent together? Mind you, couples without Quality Time as their love languages do still spend time together, just not as much as your “clinginess” desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 12:12 AM
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So you agree millions of years of evolution is a justifiable reason for visceral feelings and preferences. If so, are men allowed to be against dating or committing to past promiscuous women? After all, they are hardwired as per evolution intended, and this is men’s lizard brain at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:11 AM
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Alright let me briefly discuss this entire subject for my entertainment. Definition (Relationship) - The way in which two or more people (things) are connected. A relationship is dependent on how *the parties involved define it; A third party not in the said relationship has no stake and therefore no say. Here is the part where your tunnel-vision lies. A relationship, *in your opinion is one where you spend lots of quality time with your partner. Whereas I, along with many others are perfectly c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 01:39 AM
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What’s the point of you imposing your idea of what constitutes a relationship on others. There are people who value acts and gifts more than time together, so why the need to use your perspective to judge all others? And when people (OP) mention his/her parents, you turn around with a snarky comment that “that isn’t a relationship; they’re roommates”. Guess what the equivalent is in other areas of our life? If you’re not Christian, you’re going to hell. If you’re not White, you’re less of a huma…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 01:05 AM
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I don’t disagree with your point of view, but you overlooked one thing - that the gifts cost money and the man has to perform labour to obtain said income to purchase said gifts. Therefore, it can be safe to equate money to effort. And thereby, by providing gifts which costs money, the man is by extension providing labour/effort. For example, if man wishes to buy flowers and quality food for his partner, he will have less monetary value to spend on his hobbies and lifestyle. Or to paint it in mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:51 AM
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That’s looking at things from an absolute standpoint. Not a wrong perspective per se, but inaccurate. It’s more precise to look at things in a relative viewpoint. That is, relative to the person in question. For example, the equivalent of $10 to an average person is $1 million to Jeff Bezos; A woman’s weight is akin to a man’s height when it comes to preferences in dating. There are probably more examples I can think of, but basically relativity is more important than absolutes. Therefore, a dil…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:24 AM
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The comparable object would be what a dildo is to men. If men deem the preferred/entry-level sex toy to be a sex doll, then that it should be. The same way men don’t limit women to strap-ons or dildos or anal plugs or sex dolls, why are women demanding that the vast majority of men to be limited to only a fleshlight?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 04:30 AM
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Might I draw your attention to this section in the study itself. The limitations of cross-sectional studies do not allow us to distinguish whether pornography induces a decrease in sexual satisfaction or whether low sexual satisfaction predicts more frequent pornography consumption, or both... longitudinal study on ... Dutch adolescents (n = 1052; aged 13–20 years) revealed that pornography use consistently reduced sexual satisfaction but also that low sexual satisfaction led to increase in porn…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 02:30 AM
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Additionally, might I draw your attention to this section in the study itself. The limitations of cross-sectional studies do not allow us to distinguish whether pornography induces a decrease in sexual satisfaction or whether low sexual satisfaction predicts more frequent pornography consumption, or both... study on ... Dutch adolescents (n = 1052; aged 13–20 years) revealed that pornography use consistently reduced sexual satisfaction but also that low sexual satisfaction led to increase in por…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 02:28 AM
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They report lower satisfaction than their counterparts - men who don’t watch porn. That is, they are less satisfied than men who don’t. It doesn’t mean they report decreasing satisfaction as a result of porn. This could also be a result of the other conclusion - that men with satisfactory sexual lives have no need to turn to porn. Therefore, how do we know for sure porn causes dissatisfaction when it could very well be the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 02:23 AM
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I’ll just add this in there in case you didn’t catch the conclusion. indicate a correlational relationship between pornography consumption ... strongest evidence for a decrease in sexual satisfaction and without future research based on extensive case-control ... causality cannot be comprehensively assessed. It only concludes a correlational relationship. We can’t conclude either way. What if it’s the opposite - that porn improved these mens’ sexual lives?(How this can happen - Relieves sexual s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 02:18 AM
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I’ll just add this in there in case you didn’t catch the conclusion. indicate a correlational relationship between pornography consumption ... strongest evidence for a decrease in sexual satisfaction and without future research based on extensive case-control ... causality cannot be comprehensively assessed. It only concludes a correlational relationship. In that case, let me change that conclusion of yours: conclude that men who use porn have or had a problem with their sex life. I don’t disagr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 02:16 AM
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So then I presume there’s no difference whether wheelchairs cause mobility issues, or whether people with mobility issues seek out wheelchairs. Because I think we really ought to find out if sitting on a wheelchairs causes us to go on a self destructive rampage to land us physically disabled after. And yes, there is a difference. The study made no conclusion, and you’re not qualified (in academia, and lack of evidence) to conclude on their behalf. And besides, like I said, it is an opinion that …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 01:08 AM
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And there it is. Format your opinion as what it is, an opinion. Not a conclusion from the study when there is precisely no conclusion. So in that case, your point that “Porn negatively affects men’s sexual satisfaction in actual real-life sex” is moot. It’s an inconclusive relationship for now. So, why don’t you fairly state both ends of this relationship? Your opinion could be right, keyword being could. But we ought to a give 50-50 representation between the two conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 01:00 AM
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Good call out. Then, why don’t you represent it for what it is. Men who watch porn and generally dissatisfied with their sex lives. Or it could also be, men watch porn because they are dissatisfied with their sex lives. At the end of the day, they are generally less satisfied, but that doesn’t mean porn causes it. You’re just salty you got called out on it. The wheelchair one is an exemplary analogy and your rebuttal was lacklustre. So you now admit that Scientists haven’t made conclusive studie…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 12:53 AM
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Well in case you haven’t noticed, the two genders have very contrasting viewpoints. Women find it a compliment to be wifed up, to be in a relationship with a quality dude. This is partly because sex is easily obtainable for them - go to tinder, swipe and get a hookup readily within 10 minutes. Whereas for men, wifing up a woman is a lot of effort and investment. Flowers, rings, weddings, dinners while the woman largely (generalizing here) simply turns up. Sex however is difficult to obtain for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 03:36 AM
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Don’t streamline something into a strawman argument. These men are angry she slept with other dudes freely while the current dude has to invest time and resources for the same thing. It’s not merely getting angry because she slept with someone else, but the fact that there are double standards - which make sense from a woman’s perspective, but completely insulting from a man’s perspective. Same way you demand men to “understand that it makes sense for women”, why don’t you try to “understand it …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 02:02 AM
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Well precisely my point. The woman gave casual sex to the other dudes because they liked them for it. But the one who commits is only liked for his ‘commitment’ and ‘stability’, none of which is particularly complimenting to a dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:59 AM
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This correlates to the phenomenon that men marry women who prove their loyalty. Women prove it when men have nothing and the men prove it when they have everything. This also correlates to how men prefer to be loved unconditionally, and not for what he has (which is widely enforced). Thus, when a woman sticks by you in uni, or when you have nothing to your name, evidently this woman is more loyal to you than if you met someone new at your current stage of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 02:15 AM
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It sounds really sad that: 1) He is essentially forced to stay with her out of fear of divorce payments. 2) She is reaping the benefits of staying married. Sounds very much like it was a one way decision. One side feels threatened, while the other benefits heavily. Doesn’t seem just in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 02:08 AM
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Which is what I’ve come to notice. Women like to shame men for their visceral emotions. Don’t like promiscuous women? Insecure. Don’t like dating single moms? Insecure and too immature to handle an adult. Don’t like dining and wining women on the first date? Too bitter as a person and insecure to handle the dating dynamics. Don’t like how another dude had a casual arrangement with her and the man has to invest resources? Insecure. I’ve yet to see one quality response that highlights the root of …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:56 AM
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Do you not understand the point of shared effort? That men are already putting in lots of effort, whereas women aren’t. I’m not sure how true this is, but it’s at least widely echoed by most men on this sub (though it’s a disproportionate subset of people). Therefore, expecting women to make up her share of the relationship is in my opinion, not unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:45 AM
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That was a very beautifully and succinctly written comment that explains the intricacies of the gender dynamics in romance without specifically damning either side.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:10 AM
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The same way one would feel slighted if their colleague was promoted before them even though that person was less accomplished but better versed at politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 12:50 AM
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If so, then men are justified to dislike a promiscuous woman whether presently or in the past. Because, they’re evolutionary like that, and they find it viscerally a turn off that a woman they wish to partner and raise kids with has had casual sex with other men. That, it is viscerally unattractive for someone to have something inside them, than for them to put something inside another person. Which is I suspect, the reason why sex are seen as more intrusive for women than men; because one lets …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 01:10 PM
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The same way most men find it viscerally unattractive that a woman had lots of dicks inside her before?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 01:07 PM
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My point is simply that stereotypes exist for a reason. To ignore it and bash all who engage in such classification systems is merely an all-too simplistic point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 09:00 AM
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People like you who assume an idealistic perspective of this complicated world are the bane of society. Humans in general, dislike uncertainty. And this is where they make assumptions, or identify correlations between trends. For example - Tattoos and piercings are often paired with the assumption that the person is rebellious or has dangerous tendencies. Alternatively, someone dressed in proper attire with a clean haircut is often perceived to be harmless and decent human. In the world of datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 12:08 AM
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Then why do so many of you women lie when confronted by men about how many sexual partners you had? If you’re so confident of that, then why not speak the truth and let the man decide if you are worth a relationship to pursue? If a woman sleeps around and openly admits these numbers, I have nothing but respect for her, and therefore believe in her belief/point of view. But that ain’t the case because somehow, women know that most men are naturally averse to women with promiscuous past. If that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 11:16 AM
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Well, last I recall, men openly admit it. Women though, seem to consistently deny it till the cows come home despite men obviously seeing through it and calling it out
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 11:10 AM
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Can I try masturbating without porn? Yes. Have I done that? Yes. Can I orgasm without porn? Yes. Have I done so? Yes. Regarding those two questions - Must I do them? No. The way you immediately dismiss everyone as if they are incapable of doing so, is truly saddening to see. And on that topic, I could shift the goalpost further if I had to. Nofap claims that orgasms - be it to porn, or mental images will affect your sex life. Now, who do I believe? You, or them? It’s such a slippery slope. You c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 03:05 AM
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I’m literally in a long term relationship, since 22 and I can orgasm indeed without the help of an external stimuli. What kind of drugs are you on? Edit: for the record, it’s Pavlov’s Dog. Edit2: You’re making horrendous sweeping generalizations and being absolutely sure of it without even an ounce of scientific evidence. You will not be able to; I hope you try to. Let me paint you an incel version. “You will not be able to find a boyfriend in the future when you’ve been spreading the legs since…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 12:35 AM
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Just because we can doesn’t mean we should. We can still make a trip from Asia to America via the ship (before planes came out). But do we? Why use old technology and practices when we have new ones in place?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 04:56 PM
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Guys more so patronized brothels and prostitutes than to masturbate without anything. Evidently, it’s possible, just much more rarely
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 04:44 AM
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Go to the brothel house, and buy some
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 04:43 AM
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Where are you from? 2 years conscription is a trend only for specific countries
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 11:26 AM
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It really doesn’t matter to us even if we “rank”below those guys. It’ll only matter, if we want you for a relationship - which we don’t. If all we want from you is sex, we still get it in the end. So really, what’s the point you’re driving at, I’m genuinely clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 04:52 AM
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The best fishermen don’t ask the fish, they observe and make strategies based off said observations. So many studies have shown the inherent biases we humans constantly deny, yet are prevalent in most of us. You’ll be surprised to know how susceptible humans are to our own invisible bias. There’s a reason double-blinds are common in experiments and placebos are a thing. I’m sure we men have our own biases/false truths we tell women. But I can’t think of any examples off the top of my head for ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 01:02 AM
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Feminists will disagree about sugaring as prostitution. It’s a hill they insist to die on
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 02:09 AM
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I’m open to my mind and view to be changed. Would you mind letting us know how old you are and the kind of guys you dated in the past (stable or risky)? It’s actually no surprise girls like stable men with stable careers. But these are when the girls are past their risky exciting days of chasing HVM and not being able to secure one. And that’s the problem most men have - that they’re only settled for after the woman is done playing around.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 12:48 AM
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I don’t want to believe anyone thinks otherwise. But the number of women on this sub that vehemently argues so, - and dies on the hill that either this is reasonable, or women aren’t like that - is surprisingly large.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 09:25 AM
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But the study almost shows that women don’t want someone earning equal to them. They want someone earning much more than them - at nearly 178% of their income. How’s that “in the same income range”?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 09:23 AM
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Yes. How many women on here would die on the hill, that women aren’t hypergamous/have unreasonable expectations?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 09:21 AM
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Completely deviating here but, would Engineer in your example belong to the lawyer-level of class or the teacher-level of class?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 09:15 AM
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This is what I learnt the hard way. TRP was always saying to behave your own way, say your own thoughts with no remorse. Until I learnt there’s a time and place to do that. And even then, only say that around people that echo your sentiments.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/21 02:33 AM
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Well, how do you think people put a value on others? Wealth, Education, Past Experiences, Past Crimes, Sexual Experience, Personality etc? To claim we don’t naturally put a value on others as per our judgement is naive. No one’s going to look at Bill Gates the same way they look at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 05:13 AM
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The drawback of high n count is that valuable men may refuse to commit to them in the future. I believe that is a sufficient consequence, which women agree too and hence the lying of their n count. I’m sure men are perfectly happy if the high n count women embrace their past and accept the consequences - admitting it when asked. The double mating strategy (with the lying involved) is what gets most dudes. There is nothing more to offer mostly, because women have found lying to be a good enough s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:17 PM
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Most men definitely understand why women do it. The strategy is very commonly understood albeit unpopular. Regardless of motives, men will generally continue to interpret sex as a form of reward or litmus test for their own desirability from women. But thing is, women refuse to acknowledge how this is perceived by men, and therefore impose a forced perception. If I may so refer to your statement “try not to see it as punishment”. It’s akin to demanding a raise from your employer, but telling the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 11:06 AM
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I found it off Google. I searched it and there were multiple news articles on it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/12/20 07:35 AM
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I think you misinterpret. When I say forcing a change of perspective, I’m referring to the other commenters. They attempt to use shame, and guilt to get you to change your perspective. They use words like insecure or inept to discuss your point of view. One thing I don’t understand is how women can’t even acknowledge the view from our point. Most men can easily understand how, and why women do it - to get investment from men, to not come off easy, to be seen as serious. What most men aren’t doin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 01:32 AM
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We’re not denying that we don’t understand. We are entirely aware that women do it as a mating strategy - have casual fun and sex, but wait out so the LTR prospect will be more invested/vetted. It’s just the way the two genders see the same situation in entirely different manners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 01:13 PM
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Society views effort as the pre requisite for a reward. Almost every instance of effort comes with a reward. So, how is it wrong to by virtue and nature, see it as a reward
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 01:12 PM
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The same can be said for men. Men have to equally put in effort (working out, powerlifting, dressing up etc). The debate isn’t about who puts in more effort. My point remains womens’ effort are passive - look good, smell good etc. Whereas mens’ effort are active - take action, invite her out, make the moves, convince her. And seems like every other reply on my thread suggests that women don’t understand how it’s seen as a reward. If society views it as a reward, why are we unfairly punished for …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 01:08 PM
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But the reason why it’s seen as a reward to men, not women is because of the effort they have to put in. If you put effort into studying, your good grades are seen as a reward. I can bootlick my employers, and yet a promotion is still seen as a reward. Oftentimes, people are rewarded for their efforts. I think it’s safe to say even in today’s forward culture, men are still the ones doing the chasing. That said, of course women has work to do as well. But the way most see it, women put in passive…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 12:40 PM
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If I may further expand on this, isn’t that how the world works? The way things come across often have equal if not higher bearing than the motive itself. For example, I may not have the intention of offending a depressed person with my words. Yet, I am responsible for the consequences of my action. It’s also the basis of manslaughter where the results trumps the intention. Naturally, I believe most men understands how that is a mating strategy for women. So, what do you think would be a good so…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 12:33 PM
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That is still leniency extended. There’s no way around for men from this like women do
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 12:15 PM
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He unfortunately had to shut it down due to backlash from women and men alike
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/20 02:31 AM
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Also, apparently it seems the programmer received backlash from women and men alike. As a result, he has since shut down the program unfortunately
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/20 02:31 AM
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About time. I’ve been propagating this for a while now, and actually started a little on my own journey to do this (but it seems someone else has succeeded already). My own plan is to include that with Sugar Baby websites and Onlyfans. The only reason women get away with it is because there are no consequences if they lie. The only way to deal with this is to hold them accountable.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/20 02:26 AM
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That’s why women used to protect themselves from men like these by demanding investment? When a dude sunk thousands into you, they generally don’t pull out. Again, it’s not about what they say, but what their actions show
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 08:17 AM
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Isn’t that why society is general enforced a waiting rule? The only competition a female has is other females. If all of them (the quality ones for LTR - this excludes women with Onlyfans, Strippers, camgirls etc) stake out and demand a higher investment from men, then this pump and dump would be less of an issue. No dude is going to pump and dump if they’ve sunk thousands of dollars into you. Maybe some might, but those would be few and far between.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 08:15 AM
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Academia writing requires proper research to back up one’s claims. As this is reddit, I’m unable to produce research-backed statements (on mobile, at the gym) on the go. Have I written decent arguments? Yes, but they are no stellar by any means. Ultimately, I’m an undergrad in Engineering where writing and discussion is not exactly what the field is renowned for. I can quote APA or MLA citations, but overall, I’d do better with IEEE. I’d love to spend the time churning out a proper essay (have d…
/r/PussyPassDenied10/12/20 02:20 PM
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I’m genuinely looking for sources that debunk the myth because last I searched, both Forbes and Time (2 of the more credible sources around) have clearly demonstrated views that align with mine. I’m pointing to the feminists and redditors throwing the number around loosely on these threads. Statisticians themselves likely know about the basis for these numbers. But the average redditor? No way
/r/PussyPassDenied10/12/20 02:01 PM
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Yes. The wage gap was something more along the lines of 4%, a drastic difference from the 21% thrown around. My point on statistics being a mean girl is to suggest there’s more than meets the eye. In other words, the current adjusted value of 4% is more of a conclusion than the unadjusted 21%. Hence why the metaphor of the snake seemingly with legs. The current evidence proves there isn’t a discrimination solely based off gender. In other words, should women and men be hired alike, there is no s…
/r/PussyPassDenied10/12/20 01:54 PM
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I would argue there might be benefits to looking at it in comparison to the adjusted value. I may be out of my league here, but what conclusion could you draw with merely the unadjusted value alone? As with all statistics, individual values don’t mean much unless looked at directly next to another value with certain variables adjusted. That’d be my take. Otherwise, I can’t see any upside to concluding with the unadjusted value
/r/PussyPassDenied10/12/20 12:33 PM
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Then in that case, I’ll believe your point is moot. I understand you’re drunk and merely browsing for fun, but I will have to suggest that until reasonable conclusive evidence is produced, your argument remains a mere claim. That is, it’s not an indication of anything
/r/PussyPassDenied10/12/20 12:19 PM
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The valid conclusion is a 21% difference based on unadjusted numbers. That is precisely what put recent feminists in Australia under the gun. There was a viral clip if an official demanding numbers that provided an accurate picture. It’s a manipulation if you used a value that suggests conclusion A, then turn it around to use to support conclusion B. Conclusion A and B are valid in their own right. But to use one value to support another is the definition of manipulation. Or rather, false. The a…
/r/PussyPassDenied10/12/20 12:17 PM
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Precisely my point? The average across the board, after adjusting for factors such as similar career positions and hours worked, a value around 4% is more likely. The numbers you’ve read are likely the unadjusted values. Nonetheless, I’m still seeking counter evidence that proves there is a significant discrepancy based off gender discrimination alone. Please share any citations available on this if possible. Thank you.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/12/20 12:11 PM
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The 77 or 79 cent per $1 earned by men is definitely a myth. The true adjusted gap is somewhere along the likes of 4 cents difference (4%) as has been pointed out by another kind redditor. There is a gap, no doubt. But at a 4% difference? That’s a drastically different value from the supposed 21% thrown around. I’m looking forward to any sources you have that might prove the 70 cent difference is true. Or at least, a source credible enough to dispute the two informative sources as I have cited i…
/r/PussyPassDenied10/12/20 12:03 PM
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Citations on reddit don’t do so well. People with no semblance of statistics will easily read the wrong things. This is what led to this whole myth in the first place. It’s better to explain and elaborate, then provide citations. Sommers (2016) published an article on Time that demonstrates precisely what I summarised previously. Gertsmann (2019) further provides supportive arguments on Forbes that aligns with my points as well. I’m sure there are more to find but these are two incredibly credib…
/r/PussyPassDenied10/12/20 10:59 AM
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You want me to name some ‘variables’ that would provide logical causation Hours worked - More directly impacts pay received. Part Time vs Full Time - Full Time jobs tend to pay better due to agreed stability via a legal contract. Familial Arrangements - Employers tend to prefer hiring employees who can better dedicate themselves to the job. Having additional obligations outside of jobs has a direct negative impact on salary. Maternity Leave - See reason above Nature of Job - A male lawyer will r…
/r/PussyPassDenied10/12/20 10:36 AM
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If the values thrown around is 2%, I’d have no issue looking at this and agreeing. But to manipulate the data to suggest a 21% difference? That’s far too much.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/12/20 10:31 AM
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Don’t term it wage gap. It’s an illusive statement that detracts attention from the real problem. The difference in pay is a symptom of the underlying cause - that women seek jobs less lucrative, and that there maybe a cultural hindrance to their advancement. No one denies that the structure may be biased against women (bankers and lawyers earn more than teachers and nurses). How much of it is influenced by a male dominated structure, we do not know. But we must of course acknowledge the presenc…
/r/PussyPassDenied10/12/20 10:26 AM
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4% is drastically smaller and almost negligible compared to the 70 odd cent per $1 that feminists are propagating. I do not doubt the veracity of claims that suggest it’s the system and built-in causes of discrimination such as hindered career advancements, glass ceiling, volatility (women to stay home) as examples of causes. But to manipulate the data to suggest men are paid more simply because we are born men is inaccurate and an unfounded basis.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/12/20 08:21 AM
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Just curious if you believe in the wage gap myth? Cause last I recalled, there is no such wage gap once alternative variables were controlled for. For example, hours worked and position-specific were causes. Eg: It’s easy to say a woman was paid $5k for a month’s job, while a man was paid $6k. That’d give us - on the surface - a $1000 difference, hence “wage gap”. What that number does not account for may be the fact that that man worked 20% more hours (say, 30?more hours in that month). Does th…
/r/PussyPassDenied10/12/20 08:01 AM
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For context, I’m not based in US but Asia. For the most part, women here are still bounded by society rules and norms and casual sex is still a relatively taboo subject, albeit happens under the table discreetly.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/12/20 05:44 AM
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Care to explain why so many women seem to think having sex of first date is an indication of feelings? That the man must he attracted to them as a LTR prospect then? Men have and will always admit that there is a difference between LTR and fling material. More often than not, first date hookups are an indication of the latter. Yet, women seem to demand that men disregard their own criteria and vetting notions to accommodate the women? That somehow, men ought to find these women desirable for LTR…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 05:40 AM
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I don’t agree with OP’s made-up reasons, but one thing I will use is the difference in sample size. 51 is an extremely small number that would render the credibility of the study insufficient. 480 is a fairly decent sample so I believe the results found would be a relatively accurate indicator for the sample provided (as per demographics and other variables accounted for)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 05:34 AM
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Well I have, which might be the reason she’s been more open to doing sexual things and responding to my advances. But I’ll evaluate this relationship maybe.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/12/20 05:15 AM
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In all honesty, I’m disappointed but to agree with her actually. I’m dating a woman whom I think is fairly unicorn but I won’t let my guard down nonetheless. She’s my first and I’ve been having thoughts of sleeping with new people because settling with one person while she’s had more just doesn’t cut it. Am I also one of these women?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/12/20 01:57 AM
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But humans are animals. We possess many traits and characteristics alike to them. The male species chasing the female, by ways of peacocking, showboating etc. Laws and society are social constructs put in place to enforce law and order; it serves as a guideline and benchmark for society to weigh against. This is also why it’s always revised and changed as society evolves (gay marriage, women rights amongst many). To suggest that living in a society pardons our evolutionary biology is the strawma…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:52 PM
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While you’re at it, want to start demeaning lions and birds that kill off others’ offsprings? It’s known behaviour that once a lion takes over a pride, they go straight for the cubs of the previous leader; and the lioness can’t do anything. In most species, the one not carrying the eggs, or the one not rearing the children tend to kill off the previous offsprings. So why do we humans feel like that? It’s evolutionary biology. It’s as second nature to be repulsed by the behaviour as how people ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 02:10 PM
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With your personal experience, would you mind giving me some advice? She’s my first girlfriend and sexual partner (i’m a late bloomer). Meanwhile, she’s had a total of 3 including me. Her first sexual experience was through a one night stand, and the second with her ex boyfriend. I really don’t want to care (and have thus thought of breaking up just to play around or cheat to get even). What would you think is the better course of action? It’s unfortunate because though she’s not the hottest or …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 04:43 AM
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Genuinely curious, but does your fiancé know about your sugar daddies in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:17 AM
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That’s precisely the point. And the thing is these questions are not uncommon. Men (at least those with self awareness) will tell you so, and women will fit right in. Look, fat people who like fat people exist. Good looking people who married ugly people exist too. Does that immediately mean that “people find ugly and fat people attractive”? Why would you use an example and statistics of a minority group (small percentage) to attempt to invalidate a trend? There are people that dgaf about morals…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 12:29 AM
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Dude how old are you? I’ll just pose you the most common example. In fact, the oldest questions ever. Women tell men they prefer men who are nice, who treats them well by buying them gifts etc. Yet at the end of the day, how many of them find the dude sexually desirable? Yet, how many women still go for the seemingly arrogant and nonsensical jocks? Those that spell out red flags and the kind that women continue to become single mums because of? Do women upright tell you “hey, being arrogant and …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 12:00 AM
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And this is the sort of reasons men turn to Redpill. When people like you start giving seemingly reasonable and logical advice that don’t translate well into the real world. How many women will tell you they prefer a nice dude, yet break up with their partners cause he’s boring? How many women will tell you money doesn’t matter (equality) yet research continues to suggest women prefer men with more financial status. How many women will tell you that you should own up and raise another man’s kids…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 01:47 AM
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You clearly don’t understand the roots and fundamental reasoning behind the term. And the full saying is “She’s not yours, it’s just your turn”. Essentially, it’s saying have fun. But know that if it ends, it ends. This can be for many reasons - female hypergamy often stated as one of them. The whole idea is to suggest to always expect being blindsided, where she will leave you at some point. This contradicts how relationships once were - for marriage and long term partnership. It’s none of your…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 01:40 AM
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Dude was referring to the prime age where guys have the most options (prime fucking years). You can’t be fucking if girls your age are looking at those 5 years older
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 12:26 PM
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Those are girls’ prime years, not for dudes. It’s not uncommon for dudes to receive more female attention as they grow older. Women tend to prefer men who are more established, status and older with experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 05:42 AM
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Alright I think I misread that. Then again, the disparity in increase in sexual activity must mean something. The numbers for men 18-24 rose by 12% while that for women rose by only 4%. It’s not a significant or extremely big change but I wouldn’t brand it as negligible either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 03:34 AM
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By grouping statistics together, you miss the complete picture. Why would you attempt to conflate numbers for those age groups together? 18 - 24 is the youngest, and likely the age where sex is largely casual, less those in LTRs. 24 - 35 might be the dating group and therefore has more of a mix between the two groups. 35 - 44 most likely consists of people in stable long term relationships or marriages. With all these different factors affecting each demographic, we can’t exactly superimpose the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 02:08 AM
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I think the these trends don’t apply to the minority of girls that are engendered in older dating norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 04:22 AM
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Then I feel a fallacy here darling. A girl that asked/wants sex on first dates are often not relationship material (for most people). By telling them “no”, that feels counterintuitive by desiring to commit to a girl that isn’t exactly ‘relationship material’.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 04:21 AM
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I’m pretty sure men condemns cheating amongst other men as well. No gender discrimination there. When a woman has a hook up, it means she found the dude sexually desirable. Possibly more so than the dude she made to “wait for 3 months” because she doesn’t want to come off easy. Isn’t that simply the idea the other dude evoked some carnal desire in the woman which the current dude is unable to? Your entire reply didn’t even give any justifiable reason or any rational argument for how it’s an inse…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 04:23 AM
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What are some common mistakes that men are guilty of when it comes to experimenting and learning? I’d go out on a limb and say hookups have different purposes for men and women. Therefore, we cannot expect to judge the two genders by the same action. Your example is a great illustration of this. Men don’t face the same issues as women where the opposite gender cares less after sex. In fact, it’s the opposite. No wrong there but it’s a millennium-old story of ‘waiting out’ precisely because there…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 03:08 AM
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No, this finding was via other posts on reddit. One particular example is a fiancé who overheard their engaged partner telling others that the saving grace for FWBs is the sex. If it’s not good, then there isn’t really a reason for an FWB. Whereas she’s with him because of all other reasons - stability, love and fun. That “the sex is great” but it’s incomparable to the hookups and flings. Edit: Also, no matter how you paint it, that’s the basis of ‘settling’ for someone less sexually desirable (…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 01:55 AM
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A bigger pool of possible employees means more talent, means more productivity, means higher wages. Yes, there’s increased choice for employers, and more talent. However, the number of people a company can possibly hire has an upper bound at any point in time. Whether that be mostly females, males or a mix, it results in the end-all scenario of men having to be paid lesser. Perhaps say, a Digital Marketer might have been paid $100,000 annually - due to scarcity and less competition (hence, more …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 06:53 AM
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Which part isn’t true? As a business, you only have this much cash flow to spend on expenses, of which manpower makes up a part of. So if I could only have $50,000 a month to spend on wages, I could pay 10 men $5000 a month (as was in the previous decades). In today’s world, I could pay 10 men + 10 women $2500 each. From a dating perspective, women earn $0, and men earned $5000. This is good for women as they gravitate towards “economically sound” men. Of course, that led to a whole host of prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 05:26 AM
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And even if it’s not for the family, women are naturally drawn to men who are more economically attractive. Put family and children out of the equation, and women still somehow demand and desire men who are better off than them financially. It’s just that the workforce is a zero-sum game. If women comes for a share of the pie, men’s share will have to drop. Nothing wrong with that and is absolutely applaudable imo. But to hold on to past ideas and seek such arrangement in modern day era is count…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 01:35 AM
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Nah. Their go-to excuse is that it’s reasonable to look at financial status. How else are they supposed to raise a family? And let’s be honest, they’ll say “I would date someone if similar or equal financial status” on on hand. On the flipside, they also lament a lack of ‘economically attractive’ men to date and hence the falling marriage rates. So like, are they okay with dating and marrying equal, or only wish to date up?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 01:08 PM
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My reasoning is virginity is ‘special’, it’s a first. No matter how good all the experiences come after, no one forgets the first regardless of how good or bad it is. So in that sense, whenever I think of my first, I’d think of her. Yet I’m not the dude she thinks about when she thinks of her first. Not to mention, that’s a spot in her heart that’ll always, always be filled by someone that isn’t me. Isn’t that simply less than ideal/perfect? It’s not so much as seeing them damaged as learning th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 04:55 AM
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So if I was a virgin, and she wasn’t, was it hypocritical to desire that? It is an uncomfortable reason to desire a pure, naive, wholehearted and in certain terms ‘perfect’ relationship to want to have her virginity as you give her yours? Genuinely curious what you think
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 03:37 AM
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Yeah, but we all know reality doesn’t work that way. A guy can have as much frame as he wants and it’s not going to stop his woman from cheating on him. In fact, we see it all the time here. Men with frame instantly drop women that cheat on them. But for the most part, people seem to suggest that men are loved for what they provide. In other words, what sort of value does a college dude provide that would keep a girl around?
/r/askTRP16/11/20 05:36 AM
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It mostly looks like a problem for men who are into low n-count women rather than for women who can't find a partner. Most men prefer women with an N-count lower than theirs. For a woman to partner up, there must be a man willing to partner with her. If most women already have high n counts, and men prefer women with lower n counts, that simply means it’ll also be difficult for women to find a man willing to partner up
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 05:16 AM
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And yet how many of these ‘options’ are: a) Desirable in the woman’s eyes? Attractiveness, financial and economic status, demeanour all matter to everyone. b) Willing to commit to her Usually, people would commit to others on the same wavelength. But if the dude is on the same SMV as her, he has options too. Question is, how would she get him to commit to her if he has his own options. This is also partly why marriage rates have been falling. It’s simply not worth it to men anymore. c) Compatibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 05:12 AM
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Definitely that, and not how you have an innate biological desire to procreate as has been how nature had intended for the last million of years
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 12:11 AM
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How do you have children even after vasectomy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 03:40 PM
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I think your point is simply that the average dude won’t benefit much from it. However, I implore you to understand that these are the times of reality we live in. The 48 laws of power, and other related books are the social fabric for people in high positions and status to utilise. At the end of the day, it’s a very simple equation. Know more than your average person, and you become better than average. Give the 50th percentile man this information and he’ll likely rise into the 60th percentile…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 03:33 PM
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Yet, between legs and upper body, most women always choose upper body. The desirable is obviously big frame overall. But like I said: “when push comes to shove”, women would take a dude with big upper body and chicken legs over a dude with a scrawny upper body and gigantic legs. I can easily cite you multiple sources where women prefer upper body to lower body. This has been researched multiple times, and the results have rarely deviated
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 06:28 PM
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Why would you use a small proportion of the population to invalidate a trend? Like I said, we talking about “most”. Do all women like makeup? No, but most do. Do all women like small boobs? No, but most do. Do all women like muscular dudes? No, but most do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 06:24 PM
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Why would you use boobs as an example? Boobs are genetic, not a case of training. It’s akin to saying women have always been preferring men with lower body simply because the d is there. Like, that makes absolutely no sense. Women has and always have preferred men with a built upper body. Don’t bring genetic body parts (not an indicator of training) into the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 06:22 PM
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Between a toned upper body, and a toned lower body, men would pick the lower body 9 times out of 10. Besides, you’re proving my point. Women prefer muscles on men, while men prefer less muscular women. This are simply vast difference in interest and desire. So why is it that difficult for women to see how each gender gatekeeps different things; that is, instead of constantly advocating both genders gatekeep the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 06:20 PM
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yeah shapely rear. Breasts are genetic are not a case for debate. Like I said, when push comes to shove. In other words, men appreciate women that train their lower body much more than upper body.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 06:18 PM
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So all the comments here will be deleted once I resubmit as a new thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 10:38 AM
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How do I edit the title?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 10:37 AM
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I’m not sure where your position is. Because I’ve seen too many OPs unhappy with their LTR’s past, and they’re heavily judged for their preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 09:38 AM
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She was promiscuous. Would it bother you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 09:35 AM
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We have sex regularly, and the sex is good. I’m simply talking a man’s need for variety. Or I don’t know what sort of hardwiring. I am giving commitment because the sex is good, and she does - though sometimes unwillingly - give me good sex. Problem is, it seems I’m not happy with one. But at the same time, this LTR is pretty good (she cleans, submissive, loyal to a fault; and loyalty is my biggest turn on)
/r/askTRP12/11/20 05:05 PM
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I do. I just can’t help lusting for other girls aside from her too
/r/askTRP12/11/20 04:43 PM
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Was she a virgin? Else, I don’t see the point you’re making
/r/askTRP12/11/20 03:52 PM
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So you think it’s worth it giving up a good LTR for sex...? I’m genuinely asking
/r/askTRP12/11/20 03:50 PM
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What if I’m in a happy LTR? I’m not going to lie, I don’t believe in unicorns. In fact, there are some things I want better in the relationship but these are out of my control. If I don’t fap, I get hella horny and would almost act on any good-looking/decent girl I see. Then I’d PMO and once the post-nut clarity kicks in, I stop lusting for other girls. How do I deal with this?
/r/askTRP12/11/20 03:34 PM
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Why are all the commenters here trying to prove a general trend wrong. This has been one of the oldest points of debate. Your personal experience (as a guy who prefers emotional or a woman who prefers sex) does not invalidate a general trend. Go ahead and state your preference for the opposite, no one is stopping you. Although, you ought to know that it doesn’t answer the question. It’s akin to saying “I am a 20 year old, and I prefer to stay a bachelor. Therefore, my preference invalidates your…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 11:31 AM
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I think the question was asking for a partner, not casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 06:36 AM
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Technicality-wise, you’re absolutely right. But for the most part, I’m sure reproduction coercion is far more detrimental to rape. The emotional trauma of being forced to foster a child, go to courts, be forced to pay for the child you never asked for.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 06:34 AM
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You can have 1 male impregnante 20 differeny women. Their inherent value would be drastically different Edit: you can’t have 1 woman bearing 20 children for 20 guys. The choking point for pregnancy is with the woman, not the man
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 09:05 AM
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You falsely equate promiscuity and being termed a slut. Whether or not one is a slut, depends on how his/her promiscuity is interpreted. Promiscuity is a behaviour, and slut is a derogratory term for those exhibiting this behaviour. The opposite is chad, a celebrated term for those exhibiting said behaviour. The sexual economy has always favoured towards women. The average women will be able to find a casual partner far easier than the average man (this is factual, and no room for debate). There…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 08:48 AM
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Invalid point. You have to make a distinction between inherent value and possible value. Women have inherent value, while men don’t. Men’s value come from the possible value he can create. For the longest time, men were preferred because they can create value. Examples: Fight wars, defend the tribe, agriculture. Meanwhile, women have intrinsic value. Simply being a woman has value on its own. There’s no need to serve society like men do, to prove your value.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 08:36 AM
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I believe at some level, men would care less if their own number is significantly larger than their partner’s.
/r/RedPillWomen05/11/20 02:37 PM
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Seeing as how this is an issue I suffer with personally as well, may I refer you to r/retroactivejealousy At the same time, the author Zachary Stockill has been really helpful (check out his books on this topic).
/r/RedPillWomen05/11/20 01:09 PM
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As others have pointed out, there’re no lack of betas willing to put a ring on them. But there will be the occasional case of them snagging a hvm, and she’ll lie about her resume because she knows he’ll leave him if he finds out.
/r/askTRP04/11/20 11:47 AM
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And I’ll one -up you. One example is not sufficient to prove a general trend right or wrong. It’s the equivalent of saying “No, I’m voting for Trump because I’ve been earning more under his ruling. Hence, the general consensus in America is that Trump will win.” Above example is a simple and logical example of how one data point is not representative of the entire data set. Until you can show some backed theory, or actual general trends, please do not use your isolated experience as a counter-ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 02:51 PM
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I currently have a partner giving me regular sex (I’m in college). But on some level she’s dated and slept around (within reasonable margins), and she’s my first. I can’t help but to wonder if casual sex or other girls are more worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 06:58 AM
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In all honesty, I always wonder. Why be bitter about reality? There’s a reason TRP tells people to outgrow the anger phase. Do we truly be upset/disappointed at these women, when the enablers are men ourselves. It’s those who are desperate and would still commit to these women that enable this phenomenon. So, why stay angry at them when it’s our own that’s creating this phenomenon.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/10/20 02:54 PM
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Nope. I frequent the gym, and most times guys are far much more open to small talk while resting. Women tend to come off as more indifferent, otherwise often relatively rude. Even just around school. Men are much much more receiving to conversation so long as you’re not a dick. Like the original comment, I’ve found that being nice to women often nets far worse results than being cold/indifferent would. And even worse, you immediately get grouped into the friendzone if you come off as nice where …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 02:04 AM
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Isn’t casual sex essentially objectification?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 09:07 AM
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Women still refuse to acknowledge this. Instead of playing the game, they demand the rules be changed. “Why not date these women; there’s nothing wrong; deal with your insecurities”. Why can’t they just let men make their own choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:45 PM
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You ever heard of sexual economy? Women’s sexuality has value and men’s don’t. Once you accept the fact that women in the past used to trade their sexuality to men for protection and resources, you’ll understand this was how we were designed evolutionary. Birth control pill was a recent invention (relatively), and casual sex until then was dangerous due to possibility of pregnancy. You don’t just erase hundreds of years of cultural norms, biology and tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:42 PM
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Oh wow you actually digged and hit a soft spot. No wonder she stopped replying
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:38 PM
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It’s very simple. Women’s sexuality has value while men’s doesn’t. It’s the idea of the sexual economy. It takes effort, and status to get a girl to hook up with the dude. I can’t quite say the same the other way around. Ask any average male to ask 100 girls, and he might only get 1-5 girls tops. An average woman though, can ask 100 dudes and I can confidently say more than 40 would easily agree. As such, they don’t think less of you. They simply brand you as ‘hook up’ or ‘non LTR’ material simp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:36 PM
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I think that has always been the case. AWALT was a general sweeping statement to remind all guys. But, there was a recent paper published that highlighted women with low n count or virgins (up to 5) have statistically a far lower divorce rate. It sort of invalidates the technicality of the AWALT term but not the spirit of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 02:25 AM
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Many people on these ‘pill’ threads always claim women don’t lie. Especially with the whole female empowerment thing. This merely serves as proof, that they indeed do. Hopefully this shuts up the claim that women never lie about their count
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 03:04 AM
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Wait I don’t understand
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/10/20 02:31 AM
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yikes as in, you agree or severely disagree with me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 05:29 AM
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Yes, I agree. The wage gap exists, but not merely due to gender discrimination. Actual, real factors at play may be as you’ve stated - the mommy trap, nature of difference in job, glass ceiling by gender, hours worked maybe. These are the actual factors that ought to be addressed. Not a sweeping statement that women less paid due to discrimination in the workplace by gender. On the topic of gender segregation in the workforce, that is a heavy misrepresentation and an outlier. In the Nordic labou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 05:27 PM
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Aren’t feminists or women constantly claiming how we as a civilization have and should grow beyond our primal ways? Men shouldn’t be insecure of their girlfriend’s past. Men shouldn’t be jealous that their girlfriend had ONS, high body count etc, even though men were literally hardwired to be like that. Biology and nature has sufficient supportive evidence. Then women throw out “oh, men are so primal, so low-level that they react this way.” And now given this study, it clearly shows women themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 04:20 PM
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But the wage gap women constantly use as an argument never existed if you accounted for these differences such as education, hours worked for, companies, nature of job etc. So, if one day - if men ever start earning less than women (which I highly doubt will be coming anytime soon) - I hope men will chuck the numbers in their face with equal ignorance these feminists have displayed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 04:16 PM
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I completely understand the logic behind it. But relationships were never built on logic. So many women constantly claim they don’t understand or can’t see the situation through the lens of a man; and that’s precisely because both genders are wired differently. So, this post is entirely simply to paint a picture that more faithfully and accurate represent the scenario through the eyes of a man, just tailored to fit women for them to be able to relate to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 04:11 PM
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Oh, I didn’t know Morganfield’s was an Asian thing. I’ve always assumed it was from the US and found its way into asia
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 01:38 PM
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This could be a good comparison. But the context here is investment into the girl. A woman who refused to do these sexual favours can be viewed as unwilling to pour in the same investment she did for past hook ups. So similarly, I merely wanted to demonstrate that in this post
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 01:37 PM
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Sexual activities are often seen as an investment into a relationship and it’ll be dangerous to claim otherwise. Same thing, men see women who refuse to do these favours with them as - for lack of better word - a change in investment. If she invested more (sexually) in hookups than she would in a LTR, it’s no surprise the man will be offended. So how are the two non comparable?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 01:35 PM
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Being good at sex comes after getting in bed. The value at hand comes from the effort put in. This effort is used to bring the girl back to bang. Therefore, the largest indicator of power is when he manages to bring the woman back. Whether or not he performs thereafter is less indicative of his SMV
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 05:30 AM
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The whole idea is reliant on sex not being a resource for trade. But women’s sexuality has always proven to be of value, which they trade for men’s resources. Women will tell you in the same breath that sex in a relationship isn’t of ‘value’, which supposedly invalidates your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 05:26 AM
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I think it depends what kind of sex. is he hanging out at the end of a house party and dragging a girl too drunk to properly consent to his room? Because no, I don't connect that to "high status." Sober hook ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 03:01 AM
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Then I wouldn't consider him worth congratulating. Those could all have been with barely concious women. Now if he was a talented lover, yes, because that also showed that he worked at the craft of sex, not attaining sex. So you disagree that a men attaining sexual favours from women is a correlation to high status due to the larger amount effort he has to put in? The value anyone has is what someone else is willing to pay. No strings attached is the exact definition of non payment
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:57 AM
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His explanation was that Morganfield’s was expensive to sustain for all the women, so he decided to stop doing that. Also, he realised women were treating him like a meal ticket or dating him for his money. Equally logical an idea. Did you read this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:54 AM
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Glad we’re on the same side then. In all honesty, I suspect both genders don’t like being held to such high standards. Therefore, my only point here is to paint to women a picture equivalent to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:53 AM
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By sexually successful do you mean a large N-count, or they please all their partners? Large n count. Premise here is him being able to attain sexual favours from multiple women suggest a correlation with high value or desire from the opposite gender. This is the part that confuses me. Why does it matter if she considers herself a 7 or a 9? A 7 will likely entertain or pursue relationships of equal ranking. But if a 7 starts believing she’s a 9 just (because men have lower standards for hooking …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:51 AM
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Same premise. But you need to realise the difference lies in how individual genders feel about it. Men find men who invest less to be more sensible the same way women find women that choose not to do these sexual acts “logical and reasonable”. The comparison comes when women react to men, and the other way around. Men are offended that women do these in the past but not with them, the same way women are upset they aren’t being invested in as much as men did to other women in the past. It was nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:41 AM
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So you believe his action as such makes it ‘low effort’, rather than a sensible adult realizing it’s dumb to spend unnecessarily on girls with no strings attached. It’s logical he made a mistake in the past, and now he’s making more sensible decisions financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:36 AM
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That’s why the similarity here lies in relativity. A woman experimenting in sex with someone no strings attached, then not doing it with her serious prospect. A man pampering a no strings attached woman more than he does to his serious partner. That’s the comparison here
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:34 AM
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I’m merely painting a picture of what men feel is equivalent. Sure, it’s not a direct equivalency and there may be some differentiating factor. But a measure of comparison was never direct as I’ve stated. A kid wouldn’t feel the same way as an adult does, if he/she doesn’t get their ideal job. Rather, the child not getting his favourite lego set would be a better comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:32 AM
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Yeah, your boyfriend took you to Olive Garden. Then, you found out this dude brought his past hook ups to fine dining places. i.e Timeline is as such: Dude takes ONS and hookups to fine dining places in 2018. It’s 2019 now, and he brings you to Olive Garden for your first date. You then find out about this one way or another. How do you feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:27 AM
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As I’ve stated, it isn’t about the absolute equivalency between the two. Rather, the reactions/thought processes it draws out
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:26 AM
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So you believe that hookups/ONS are prostitutes because they were taken to expensive places? Case in point is you came after them. He took them to these expensive places out of goodwill, then proceeded to bring you to somewhere ordinary
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:18 AM
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Did you read my edit? We shifted the bracket to Olive Garden and Fine Dining respectively
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:17 AM
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Lol what’s a good comparison then? As I’ve stated, I’m not from the US
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:16 AM
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I’ve blatantly stated the reasons he chose to change his date restaurants. The whole idea wasn’t equating dinner and taking dick in the ass. It’s not the similarity of the action itself but rather, how it may make the other party feel. Similarly, if I were to make a comparison, would it make sense to assume that a full grown adult not getting their desired flat will provoke a similar reaction as a 10 year old kid? A better comparison would be the kid not getting his favourite lego set, ain’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:07 AM
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What about a different premise (the one I stated in my edit)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:03 AM
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Did you read my question? You’re the date/serious prospect, who’s brought to a restaurant of far less stature than he did with ONS and past hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:03 AM
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I’m not from US. Morganfield’s just happen to be the one I’ve heard of. I know it isn’t fine dining, but at least a restaurant of some stature. I’m merely pushing the brackets up evenly. Macdonalds to Olive Garden, and Morganfield’s to fine dining
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 01:59 AM
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It’s not about whether or not you’ll enquire. Premise is point is simply: you found out one way or another. How do you feel
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 01:49 AM
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What if it’s something less exaggerated. Say, Olive Garden. I’m not from America so I wouldn’t know benchmarks or restaurant tiers there. What if an equivalent argument is him choosing to go dutch with you at any ordinary restaurant by the roadside. Then you find out he paid in full for his past dates at the likes of Morganfield’s?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 01:39 AM
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I’m not well versed in the culinary world over there, but my example was pure exaggeration. What if it was something less far off, say Olive Garden or a simple restaurant by the street. And maybe instead of Morganfield’s, he brought them to a fine dining place. Another example might be him demanding to go dutch with you at Olive Garden. And you find out he paid fully for these fine dining experiences with his past hook ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 01:32 AM
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Let’s agree on the premise that it takes women far less effort and status to find a man willing to hook up, than the other way around. With this premise, we can conclude that a man sexually successful is likely someone who put in effort and attained some status. We can’t say the same for women. I agree we shouldn’t shame them, but there’s nothing to applaud them either. Therefore, men are more likely to be congratulated for hooking up than women are. Should she be shamed? No. But a dangerous ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 01:21 AM
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To all the women saying it makes complete logical sense, I have to agree. But here’s my justification. Matters of the heart are run by emotions, not logic. Is it logical to keep running back to your ex, or that same chad that you know will break your heart? Yes, but do most women listen to that voice in their head? Same thing for men that go back to the same britney all the time. A similar context might be, a dude bringing you out to Macdonalds on a first date. He’s serious about you. Then you f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 12:50 AM
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This is something I agree with. But I am personally unable to come to sense with. After all, relationships are built on emotions, not logic. It’s far too easy to write something off as illogical, but we all know that emotions dictate our relationships. That’s why women and men alike constantly go back to the same chads/britney that break their hearts, despite know it makes zero logical sense. But I guess the context here is intimacy. Sex is a completely intimate thing, especially when experiment…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 12:40 AM
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Yeah OP, the two dudes probably know her. Either they hooked up and all before or there was some sort of history - that she is ashamed about. That’s why her reaction was to shush them away and pretended to not give context. Tbh, you did well but I’d have second qualms about your girl
/r/askTRP07/10/20 07:43 AM
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But their argument makes logical sense to BP men. Why? It’s essentially a trade of resources from men, for sex. And that’s basically prostitution, in another form. So they say they aren’t obliged to do these things, but men ought to continue paying and what not. Once men start to realize that they’re being played, paying for essentially nothing, the field will start to change
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/20 07:29 AM
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Problem is, the people these women find sexually attractive are generally not ready to commit to them. Hence, the idea of settling down with someone not nearly as attractive but will treat you better
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 08:42 AM
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Does this just tie back into the idea that women sexuality has value. Therefore, what she gives to other men depreciates the value of her sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 05:50 AM
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The point was never about emotional baggage. It was the mere value men see in women sexuality. Women’s sexuality has always been of value, and that is also why prostitution is one of the oldest jobs around. Therefore, by effectively giving it away for free by sleeping around, women are collectively depreciating the value of their sexuality in the sexual economy. Again, nothing wrong and nothing related to emotional baggage. The problem comes when women demand an artificially higher price (than t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 12:51 AM
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Maybe I wasn’t clear in my point. Women definitely have more to offer in a LTR than mere sex. But we cannot deny that sex remains an instrumental part of the LTR. In other words, a woman’s value = sexual value + LTR value. LTR value is dependent on other factors, while body count has an adverse relationship to sexual value (based on the principle of sexual economy) A men’s value = sexual value + LTR value too. But body count has less of an adverse relationship to their sexual value (since their …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 11:43 AM
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There’s a reason society once believed women shouldn’t sleep around. Birth control pills are a fairly new invention. Previously, the risks of sleeping around entailed pregnancy. Biologically, women have a greater opportunity cost of sleeping around as compared to a guy. The woman has to carry the baby for 9 months, and gather resources to take care of the baby. Men however, can simply screw off. Societal-wise. Look up the sexual economy. There’s always been an inherent value on female sexuality …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 11:21 AM
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So basically she then becomes a unicorn?
/r/askTRP28/09/20 01:14 AM
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Did you even take any form of statistics class in college? In school at least?
/r/PussyPassDenied24/09/20 03:53 AM
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Aren’t you then in the wrong place? Why be in a place where you do the same as those with a bachelors?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/09/20 02:08 AM
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Yeah you honestly don’t get issues hating men for liking them while they’re young. But once they hit a threshold, they seem to lament guys like they never did before. Surprise much?
/r/PussyPassDenied19/09/20 03:19 AM
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What if, I would rather dedicate my life efforts to building something tangible? Such as studying the necessary building blocks to put in place a life I want in the future? I won’t have the time or money to go out constantly and look for girls to approach?
/r/TheRedPill18/09/20 04:23 AM
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Wrong interpretation. Don’t put a strawman argument ffs. OP explicitly stated the disconnect between how women view casual sex, and how men view it. At no point was there an attack on moral integrity and worth of the person - which you’re claiming is attacked via your words ‘dignity and respect’
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:16 AM
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Hey OP, I face a similar situation as you do. Just that in my culture, girls aren’t nearly as forward as you mentioned. However, as with all things, people always say it’s least risky when you’re young. Part of my reason is that, it’s easier to find another girl now, or soon in the future. It’s better than regretting on your death bed, or end up feeding the fantasy and cheat on her into the marriage and stuff. My personal hypothesis is that, at some point we’ll be hungry enough to feed our desir…
/r/askTRP09/09/20 02:04 AM
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Hi, are you NOT in the US? I’m facing a similar situation as you are, and the comments thus far seem to be disconnected from my reality. Could just be a difference in cultural context for me
/r/askTRP09/09/20 01:58 AM
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I’m no expert but one of the main points of CS is the un-need of a degree. That’s why so many people are learning it online, on their own. Browse through youtube can you see people learning on their own. So, the employers seem to prioritize what you know, and less on a certificate
/r/TheRedPill08/09/20 01:16 PM
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In all honesty, it’s a daunting switch but not impossible. Engineering and Computer Science are both essentially problem solving at it’s core. One does it through Math and Science, the other coding. So I foresee that so long as one learns the language of coding, it wouldn’t be much of an issue
/r/TheRedPill08/09/20 12:17 PM
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I found the programmer
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:06 PM
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When are we going to acknowledge the context? Surely we can all agree that men need to put in more effort to get laid than women do? Eg: when you imagine a dude that gets laid often, what are some characteristics? Confidence, almost jock-like? Wealth? Possibly successful? When you imagine a woman that gets laid often, do any of these traits pop up in your mind? Do women (aside from looks) even need any of these to get laid often? It’s not so much the count than the context or symbolic nature of …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 04:20 AM
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The behaviour that you described is exaxtly that - promiscuous. Sleeping with the multitudes of FWBs, ONSs, string of STRs is precisely promiscuity. Why would you claim otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 04:14 AM
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You still have yet to debunk my argument, again. Like, this is the second time and you have yet to deal with the crux of my point - Men are conditioned to NOT be insecure about these because society judges them. Hence, further exponentiating the idea that men ought to be emotionless. No one is extrapolating their personal views and claim that holds for the masses. The idea is simply as it is: Men not being allowed to let N count matter exponentiates the cycle of ‘toxic masculinity’
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:04 PM
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Why are you providing strawman argument? First of all, my argument in no way refers to virgins. A simple statement that n count matters (high vs low) to some guys and you misconstrue it as hostility towards virgins? Secondly, I has not shown any hostility towards non-virgins. As with most things on TRP, guys encourage one another to stay away from high n count women. In fact, low n count is desirable by many. This is a different idea/concept from virginity. And lastly, you’ve yet to address my p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 09:33 AM
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Guys are de-incentivised if they are affected by a woman’s n count (seen as insecure). This therefore propagates a cycle in which they see the need to remain stoic and unaffected if they want a fair chance in the dating market. Hence, OP’s comment makes logical sense; not allowed to be insecure (unless you want to be punished for it)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 08:35 AM
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But trp isn’t specifically about women only. There’s the self development aspect where women is the by-product (given some effort)
/r/askTRP14/08/20 02:37 PM
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In that case, wouldn’t the study of human/behavioural psychology give you an inherent advantage because you can set a pattern for those you deem uncontrollable?
/r/askTRP14/08/20 02:35 PM
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This was unfortunately what I went with for a few years. Unfortunately, it appears I couldn’t find a fair balance and rarely contributed my own thoughts to the conversations. As such, I have had the reputation of people ‘not knowing what to talk to me about’. I feel that by constantly listening without providing my own opinion or what not, the conversation is too skewed and people honestly don’t seem to value the conversation.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/20 02:37 PM
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Do you have any resources on building a personality? Or learning to tell jokes? I grew up being the class clown and doing jokes but I never could deliver jokes.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/07/20 07:28 AM
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Interesting take. I never knew women had a similar notion. Most of the women I know, and those that my girlfriend knows are more mesmerised by men with higher n counts. I was under no impression that low n counts were sought after by women too
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 05:22 PM
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How so is it unfair? That he took your virginity or...?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 05:05 PM
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In all honesty, I could respect a sex worker who devotes all their money into investments and builds a proper portfolio. But when you look at things in these short term periods, I can only feel empathy for their lack of foresight.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/07/20 04:02 AM
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Yeah this feels more tongue in cheek to me... why does this sub have to demean everything, even the clear attempts at making a joke
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/07/20 12:42 PM
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Dare I say coding? That shit is a skill that you should learn. It’s extremely helpful, applicable and a very in demand skill Edit: Alternatively, devote your time and attention onto a business. I personally haven’t figured out what I’m intending to pursue yet
/r/askTRP06/07/20 10:04 AM
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Hasnt the word sort of evolved at some point to reflect certain connotations and this isn’t its sole meaning anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 11:22 PM
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In all honesty, that seems a little extreme. I’m 72 at 20% bf and my TDEE is 2500. I’d only imagine your’s is significantly higher. Isnt the optimal/sustainable weight loss method something like 20% deficit? Instead of cutting it by half, that is?
/r/TheRedPill29/06/20 04:30 AM
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In all fairness, I believe he’s using an approach for optimizing in general. This likely only applies when you’re extremely lean already and normal diets/choices have been exhausted. But for the mass majority, this would be unnecessary I believe
/r/TheRedPill29/06/20 02:25 AM
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Just out of curiosity, how much do you weigh? 1100 - 1700 calories seem extremely little.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/20 02:21 AM
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Again, you girls love to determine what we guys should desire. Low body counts? It’s a ‘stupid and dumb’ criteria. Since when do the products in the market determine what the consumers deem fit? Extrapolating this to the opposite direction, you don’t see guys determining what women should desire? Aside from biological factors such as height, that is. Edit: as consumers, you girls love to put out critieria, even those that are difficult to control or are rare traits. Yet, we state one minute pref…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 11:18 PM
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But there’s no guarantee they will tell the truth. Girls consistently preach about empowerment and ‘my body, my choice’. Yet many seem to lie about their body count because they know precisely about the consequences of their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 10:36 AM
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Yeah honestly, just thinking about sex in the sense that I’m the one being penetrated... umm nahh. I’ll pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 09:51 AM
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No then that doesn’t work. Reliable in the sense that people around me can trust me to lead, to handle and deal with things when things go down. That is the reputation I aim to give out to people. But that too, should be a choice. That I can be relied upon because I choose to, not because I have to. I don’t understand how is it that I can go into the workforce, or start a business and be unreliable. How are things supposed to work out then?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/06/20 02:21 PM
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Yeah maybe. Anyways, I don’t think I particularly like the idea of my reputation being unreliable just to bang some chicks.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/06/20 12:50 PM
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Is that supposed to suggest that it’s best to pretend like one is unreliable? Because that goes against redpill where you have to basically take charge of your life and be reliable
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/06/20 12:42 PM
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What theory may I ask? Terms of Alpha and Beta? In fact, Science disproves that these terms were used. Original papers that used these terms had completely different contexts and no discerning hierarchy whatsoever. Besides, this never used to be an issue in the past until casual sex was normalised and essentially spawned the rise of dual-mating strategy. As with all things on here, none of this is proven by Science and merely theory that seems to play out for most that browse these subreddits.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 04:44 AM
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Sorry, but that is essentially what the Scientific Method upon which all Science is based off. You come up with a theory to suggest an explanation for things. Then, you go ahead and test it based on evidence and test beyond its scope, to see if it holds. If it does, then you go ahead and make a stronger claim that the theory holds and publish it into the papers with disclaimers it only holds for the numbers tested. If we are unable to make any claim without concrete evidence, we would have absol…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 04:40 AM
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I’m personally not heavily invested in numbers as statistics is a huge pain the ass. However, I must disclaim that this is merely a theory that seems to make sense. On top of that, celebrities wouldn’t be a good demographic since they are naturally an outlier and will be subjected to different rules for the game
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 04:31 AM
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This is where subjectivity plays. I’d have to imagine it’s proportionate to the value of the woman herself
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 04:25 AM
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In that case, are they still a best shooters? Ideally women should only allow >(HB insert number. Eg: HB8) to score. This number will naturally be small depending on the distribution of guys. However, once they start letting more score, it likely means they’ve allowed HB6s and HB7s to score.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 04:23 AM
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So many women would go for a guy with high n counts. Women are driven by others. If they see a guy who is seemingly surrounded by girls, they want to compete. Furthermore, so many women prefer a guy with more experience than them, henceforth more n count
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 04:18 AM
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To add on to that, it only matters if women had sex with other men. If it was a bi female with sexual relations to other women, men don’t really care
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 04:16 AM
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I have thought about this and I strongly disagree that insecurity is the reason. Sex with men are invasive. The physical act is literally invasive. The idea that another dude’s delicates have been itself what should have been yours. Furthermore, men are likely hardwired to desire a woman who is entirely theirs. What’d be the reputation of a dude if he wifes up a woman who half the college knows? The woman who they all slept with yet did not want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:28 AM
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Precisely. My point remains that these are the new normals, like it or not. Therefore, it’s not merely my morals that are normalized. Rather, this is reality as it is now, no flowers and rosy sunlight. It is true that not everyone would agree with this new stance, but it appears that these are the new benchmarks as I have stated originally for comparison.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/05/20 12:06 AM
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And that is precisely what is happening. Marriage rates are dropping horrendously, from 16 per 1000 people to 7 per 1000 people [1]. Reasons have been claimed that women are pickier and choosier now. These dropping numbers are inclusive of same-sex marriage, which would suggest even that the fall in traditional marriage is a more drastic number than highlighted Committed relationships are also relatively fewer [2]. Those without a steady romantic relationships increased from 33% to 51% in the re…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/05/20 11:59 PM
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I can understand where you’re coming from. However, when things become normalised, these become the new benchmarks for comparisons. Going by your logic would result such that we as a society would never change and be stuck with principles and values from the 1800s.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/05/20 05:17 PM
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Hi Mod, thank you for the enlightening response. I must admit because I am somewhat agnostic and would therefore have less of an opinion on religion. However, based off personal experience (i’m in my 20s for context), religion is less and less practiced completely. Premarital sex and homosexuality are commonplace. Perhaps that disqualifies them of being a Christian or Catholic, but the common consensus seems to suggest that one can still be Christian and commit the actions stated previously. Als…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/05/20 01:57 PM
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Surely, it’d make more sense to seek a divorce? Sure she may divorce rape your assets, but I’m sure the amount she takes won’t take too long to earn back?
/r/MGTOW222/05/20 09:15 AM
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I guess in that sense then it is some sort of hypocrisy on her part. However, I believe Christianity is more of a spectrum than an absolute. In other words, one can practice the religion to their own extent.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/05/20 09:12 AM
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She actually strikes me as more of a divorced woman than those we see around here
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/05/20 02:27 PM
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To be fair, I’d give her the credit for being responsible and honest about her past.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/05/20 05:34 AM
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But how would you suggest implementing trp into such an environment though? There’s no way I can run my mouth off or necessarily do much when skill and expertise trumps all else that trp preaches?
/r/askTRP06/05/20 09:33 AM
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The guitar. Initially I was in it for the fun. The thrill of performing on stage and all that attention on the band alone. But most of them have been in music for all their lives. They have acute hearing and profound musical senses. I eventually conceded that to develop my craft, I’ll have to suck it up. It sucks being at the bottom of the barrel but there really isn’t much one can do when these kind of stuff are warranted by years of experience.
/r/askTRP06/05/20 05:43 AM
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Yeah.. that’s what I thought initially too. But it slowly became clear that music was something that take seriously. Kind of like how TRP takes the gym seriously. No fun when it comes to music and I’m expected to take it all seriously. I can’t play around or have fun on stage because then it reflects my poor attitude.
/r/askTRP06/05/20 04:44 AM
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This was the advice I took but I’ve since hit a wall. Let’s say I lift and I know I’m pretty decent. But changing the context to say, a band/group of musicians. All of a sudden, musical prowess takes the lead. I can be dominant all I want, but the fact that only the best musicians will be respected/taken seriously just confuses all I learnt from TRP. What do you do in such a situation then?
/r/askTRP06/05/20 04:22 AM
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Many people have said. Muscles let you get away with stuff. That said, it’s more of the discipline and mindset that you hone whilst you’re training that changes you. You might not notice it, but eventually your mindset will change after you work out. This is what people come to respect in beefed dudes, not their muscles purely.
/r/askTRP06/05/20 03:57 AM
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But with all that indoctrination about how looks don’t matter. Girls love you for who you are, be yourself. And these are things that TRP tells the truth about
/r/TheRedPill03/05/20 11:35 AM
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I’m surprised the woman didnt bring up “my body my choice”
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/04/20 03:48 AM
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I believe the context here is to understand and accept your job as an escort. And now that you accept it, you will more than likely understand your value in the market has fallen. Therefore, they won’t aspire or attempt to be as ‘pure’ and will have more realistic demands.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/04/20 03:46 AM
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Oh yeah, I was a virgin till I met my girlfriend. Unlikely that she was lying, I was the first to make her orgasm (granted her n count isn’t that high, just slightly higher than me). Our sex life has mostly been me prompting the exploring and her learning along. She doesn’t understand how for a virgin, I’m not fumbling and all. I guess porn does a pretty good role as an educator. Forums and reddit as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 01:45 PM
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Your claim has an underlying basis that sex for men = sex for women, which is invalid. Men are wired to spread their seeds as far as possible, to as many as possible. Hence, casual sex and spinning plates. Women meanwhile, are wired to lock down a man to secure a fostering environment for raising their child. So, given that both are casually hooking up with others, it does not make sense to compare them in the same manner. For the guy, spinning plates is a present, a gift. For the woman however,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 02:56 AM
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Yeah. I loved to say borderline insensitive things to the point I asked a community member in front of 15 other members “How did you feel when your prom partner died? Like, what sort of emotions were you feeling”. My dumbass took trp too seriously and really chose not to give a fuck. Then I came to the realization that, most of the true redpillers know the fine line and don’t simply DGAF. Those who act and say everything without any sort of filter reminds me of college kids.
/r/askTRP26/04/20 05:46 AM
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You need to understand that scripts for actors are flowered with context and is meant for putting on a show. In real life, it just strikes people as unnecessary and over the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 11:57 AM
2

Would you mind helping me understand then, how a friends with benefits situation works out
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 09:32 AM
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Yeah, try giving me some ‘facts’ you know that even indicate some knowledge of the fitness industry. You don’t even know basic lingo, what constitutes as natural, how supplements are pretty much healthy etc and here you are trying to play a fool
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:24 PM
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It is extremely evident you are not involved in fitness in general given your comments. It is impressive however, the somewhat indepth knowedge you have obtained about lifting. First off, you seem to misunderstand OP’s point in the post. His first paragraph suggests that having low bodyfat makes you healthier and look healthier. OP does mention that these provide benefits, health and attractiveness wise. However, there was absolutely no point where he normalizes this as the ‘normal state of huma…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 01:26 AM
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I assure you I read through the entire thing. Please enlighten me which part of the comment you were rebutting with: being absolutely shredded isn't the natural state of the average man OP's point seems to be as summarized below: 1) Not being fat makes you more attractive, healthier, muscular and provides lots of benefits 2) A fat phase has long-lasting effects and despite becoming dedicated/shredded, the effects of this phase remains prominent. Essentially saying being fat has irreversible effe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 03:58 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean by "bringing itself back to the status quo,". Apologies, I used the wrong phrase there. However, you captured the essence of my comment. I'm very much interesting in talking about the topic rather than arguing over semantics. Yet you mentioned this: 'Maybe you should use words which accurately communicate what you’re trying to say instead of using them in a way which is contextually understood by you.' The above sentence suggests that first off, the choice of word is i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 03:41 PM
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Why are you providing a strawman argument? This is your argument - shredded is not normal/natural. OP’s point - Why are so many men overweight? You aren’t even answering the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 01:55 PM
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I hope you’re aware of the underlying meaning that the word ‘correction’ has in these context? When people refer to nature correcting/rectifying itself, it’s essentially what it means - bringing itself back to status quo. A common example is the predator-prey differential equation. It tells us that in the long term, the two populations will correct themselves to an equilibrium. Granted, balancing might be a word more apt in this instance, but that doesn’t invalid the use of the word correction. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 01:30 PM
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Most asian countries are relatively poor. The prominent rather rich ones are Singapore, South Korea, China, Taiwan, Japan and some others (Can’t recall the others). So the standard of living in these countries are also actually a lot higher than those around them. Kids are raised from young to prepare for their adulthood where they’re expected to work. Singapore is indeed rich, but I’m sad to say the inequality is drastic. So most people are actually still rather poor. Earning enough to feed the…
/r/TheRedPill26/03/20 06:32 AM
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That’s understandable. It’s heavily subsidised over here for us and a degree is pretty much the norm. So, if we want to stay competitive, we don’t really have much of a choice. I will leave this country some day to work somewhere with a slower pace of life. It’s way too fast here, and for too little money.
/r/TheRedPill25/03/20 03:20 PM
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Yeah.. college where I’m from Singapore fills up your entire day the whole week. Full-time student really means what it’s termed. I barely have enough time for my guitar practices with my band and on some days I had to unfortunately give up workouts to deal with submissions. Edit: How do I even spare time to do alternative things?
/r/TheRedPill25/03/20 03:08 PM
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Except that most dudes on average do have decent structures and symmetry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 05:38 AM
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We all know that weight loss translates to losing the fat in your face which makes your jawline more prominent. It basically makes you look more attractive on the whole because of the fat loss in your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 02:20 AM
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That contradicts most sources on here saying men peak at 30s - 40s. Therefore these men aren’t going to get uglier within the next few decades. However, of course I do wonder how bad the dating pool will be if we’re looking at women in the same age group. Unless of course, the young 20s go after these really men that peaked.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 03:02 PM
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I think it’s unfair to blame it on her like that. She first expressed her feelings and the ball was in his court to start something. Him expressing his feelings may seem to be the leading factor but dig a little deeper and you’ll understand: She wants something more than being a FWB whereas he doesn’t. This is the reason causing her to move on. Don’t for a moment try to link the other factor even though it seems relevant on the surface.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:43 AM
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Guys: I find women to be reasonably attractive across the board. However, I shall pursue the best of the best. It is human nature to selectively go after the best of the best, or in layman terms ‘bat our of our league’. By your logic, we as humans should never aim high and instead merely settle for the norm? We can argue that a HB5 guy deserves a HB5 lady. However, would any human, man or woman, in their right mind just go after a HB5? Or would it be unreasonable to try and hit on a HB7? Women: …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 05:46 PM
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You’re clearly uneducated if this is the way you’re responding. You’re attempting to use vague responses and your invalid emotions to stray away from the facts. The inflated egos are the ones demanding attraction Like I said, Margot Medhurt who works with women’s dating profiles said that there’s all hell to pay when a guy rejects the woman’s profile. Which therefore supports: Woman: How dare you not find me attractive. If you’re attempting to discredit the credentials of a professional by sayin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 10:45 AM
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Is he trying to fucked by society or is he trying to get fucked by women? Just like the Fat Acceptance cant dictate what men find attractive, you cant dictate what women find attractive. Stop dissecting my words, twisting them out of context and replying to them like a 3 year old. You mean you say that society’s standards doesn’t encompass women’s standards? And that unless you wish to sleep with the person, your rating is invalid? Wrong. That Okcupid study you're referencing showed that only 40…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 12:52 PM
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Strawman argument. It’s of no important whoever thinks who is a 7. By society’s standards, a 7 is a 7. Maybe it’s the opinion of multiple women, or multiple men. Basically the current trend is that 80% of the women go after the top 20% of man. Let’s assume a normal distribution (with the mean as 5) for the population. That’s women between 3 - 10 that’s going for men between 7 - 10. So a 6 male, who’s supposedly as attractive as a 6 female, can’t get her. So how exactly is that far? Again, I have…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 11:58 AM
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I’d imagine because a 7 dude can’t nearly get casual sex from their equivalent - a HB7 female. The inflated ego of these females make it ‘unfair’ in that sense, I would guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 04:45 AM
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Who ever even mentioned that they were low value to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 12:58 PM
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Yeah. Condoms are a recent invention. The idea of contraception are fairly new. The idea of having sex for pleasure itself is fairly new. The thing with us humans is we have the ability to educate ourselves. Without this education, we humans are literally hardwired to procreate. See third world countries who refuse to use condoms/contraceptives despite government efforts. Sex is generally still perceived by our brains (no hard evidence but seems a logical link) to be for procreation. Therefore, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 10:51 AM
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I think you don’t understand how us guys are hardwired to want to be the only one to procreate with our chosen mate. If we’re talking nature, there’s a reason why the lion that dethrones the pack leader goes after and kills all offsprings of the previous leader. They only want to support and raise their own. Naturally we humans have evolved to be a bit more conscious. But this whole thing about being politically correct and how ‘we humans shouldn’t act like animals’ is essentially saying we shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 09:48 AM
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Maybe it’s because I’m not from the US... I didnt know cooking was so highly prized there even amongst guys. Like I understood how being a good cook is important for survival... but to turn it into something like that... i can’t understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 05:21 PM
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Not a show. I believe it’s a one off thing for content. Perhaps I’m ignorant but I thought the long held belief was “The way to a man’s heart is through his stomach”?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 04:54 PM
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Yeah it is. Being able to cook is one thing. But when you’re expected to be able to cook in this day and age to ‘qualify’ for a girl, I just feel something’s rather off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 04:23 PM
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Literally having three dudes do a cookoff for two girls, and the girls gotta select the boy they individually decide on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 04:22 PM
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One prominent youtube channel recently released a video where they had 3 dudes cooking for 2 girls. I’m all for equality and stuff but why have the roles reversed. Now, even we are expected to get a girl by cooking as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 11:56 AM
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This sounded like the quote of someone... i saw it in my lecture notes today
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 07:42 AM
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Where I am, temperatures run above 30 celsius on the daily, all year round. The sun is scorching and the heat unbearable; I can sweat within 5 minutes after I finish showering. Furthermore, I am fairly dark skinned and I get burned easily. How do I get enough sun for Vitamin D given these circumstances?
/r/TheRedPill27/08/19 07:58 AM
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I mean, when you get with someone safe and stable, you’re often in a sense ‘settling down’. In other words, you’re choosing to forgo other traits or characteristics you deem superior, in exchange for security. This just sounds like the person is lacking and only made up with security (which isn’t exactly a very desirable/natural trait per se). Lust however, often comes with the notion of being very primal, out of control. It is hardwired in our minds, and seems to suggest that you made them natu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 04:53 AM
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Where I’m from, all men have to serve the country for 2 years upon reaching the age of 18. I must say, the difference amongst people do shine through. Also, while it may not help everyone, I have observed good changes in a fair number of people. More blue-pilled and beta men seem to have understood how dynamics work when they’re stuck in a man-only environment for 2 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 01:59 AM
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On one hand, you claim it wasn’t an insult. Perhaps it wasn’t your intention. But the way you phrased it, and put them in a sentence to reply the person seems to suggest otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 01:50 AM
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I wouldn’t say it untrusting or jealous. Your opinion doesnt match the other redditor’s. There’s no need to start attacking their personality and throwing lowblows at someone just because they see their world in a different light than you do. Like someone said earlier: you do you, let them do them. No need to go around spreading hate, throwing insults, call it ‘flowery language, untrusting and jealous’.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 01:48 AM
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Sounded like a post in the AITA thread for a bit until I reread the forum after reading the comments. You could try posting there. r/amitheasshole
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 03:06 PM
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Yeah. Your idea runs along the lines of “she has never mentioned that she will reciprocate the actions/chivalry”. But that does not mean that she will not do so. Which is why I stick to my stand. This is a lack of information. You can’t prove something exists, just because the opposite is not true. It’s similar to saying “Aliens exist, because we have yet to prove that they do not exist.” Her words only prove what she wants. She has yet to claim she will not reciprocate it. Until then, this is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 01:16 PM
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I think this is a lack information. She is not entitled. She merely prefers if those things she listed were done. Everyone has preferences. If she expects chivalry, then she has to be prepared to return the favour since she’s a feminist. Everyone’s just jumping the gun and saying she’s entitled, without knowing if she is willing to return the favour.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 12:34 PM
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I do but how does female empowerment relate to men stepping up? Men have been expected to step up since the cavemen times. It’s just rarer nowadays to see that happening due to the culture. But I don’t see the correlation between empowerment and men stepping up. It’s contradictory kind of. Since female empowerment equates to more rights and power for them (may or may not reach the level of equality), but that means the playing field is leveled. So please do enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 04:01 PM
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Please enlighten me on how the last sentence isn’t contradicting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 03:51 PM
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