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I took this stance for most of my life, but now I live in the Bay Area, where it seems that nearly every awesome person I meet is socially awkward and shy to some degree, including the women. I would be alone and never make friends if I didn't keep trying to push through it.
/r/seduction25/05/13 01:21 AM
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I can't handle shy and awkward people. It's like playing basketball and when you pass someone the ball they just look at it as it hits them in the chest and bounces off, and then they look back up at you and stare. I try awkward people, I really do, but I just don't know what to do with you.
/r/seduction25/05/13 12:01 AM
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I had a friend who could get numbers in the first two sentences. He was probably the best guy I've ever seen with women. Unfortunately he was crazy and the worst boyfriend imaginable, but he sure got a lot of fun numbers.
/r/seduction24/09/12 02:16 PM
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Women say shit like that all the time, "I totally wouldn't fall for that!" but then they do, and gladly at that. I have walked by women in bars who I was attracted to and said "I'm coming back later to seduce you" and they got all offended, then I came back later and took them home. Guys (and girls), you can say anything to people if it is 1) said with total confidence, 2) matches your personality and 3) you don't fixate on the success or failure of the outcome. If it doesn't work and they don't…
/r/seduction23/09/12 04:26 PM
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The kind that appreciate my confident and direct approach, which is 85% of women.
/r/seduction23/09/12 04:09 PM
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Serious doesn't mean non-exclusive. I only seek out serious relationships, but I do not seek out exclusive relationships. I find that it works way better (and is vastly more fulfilling) than a bunch of shallow "non-serious" relationships where we basically just have sex. I also find it far easier for women to be accepting of non-exclusivity if it's not solely a sex-based relationship.
/r/seduction23/09/12 01:01 AM
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Is this a joke? What the fuck. Tell her sorry and move on. If she doesn't accept that, find new friends.
/r/seduction23/09/12 01:00 AM
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Dude, if you can't ask them clearly whether they want to fuck you, you shouldn't even be thinking about putting your dick in them. Especially if you're already having sex with them, that's weird. Just ask! I pulled these out of my recent phone history with a few different girls. "Come over, I want to fuck you." "I'm feeling frisky, want to have some orgasms?" "I'm getting off work around 7 tonight, want to get off with me?" etc. You should be able to say any of this. Use this. "I have an hour of…
/r/seduction22/09/12 10:45 PM
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No. I'm an outright dick sometimes and I do any say whatever I want (within reason). On the other hand, I am a very nice guy and am told quite often that I'm very sweet. It's who I am. I am a very good and loving and sharing and giving person, and I'm also a dick who speaks his mind clearly and loudly, likes to test people and give them shit, and has no patience for stupidity or ignorance. I have been told repeatedly that I have the "right mix of asshole and sweetheart." I have to know that peop…
/r/seduction19/09/12 01:18 AM
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PUA tactics are never counter-productive, there is only a perception of it because most people don't really understand. It's not about getting laid, it's about being the best person you can be, and from that, being the most socially gifted person you can be. Everything about getting laid by beautiful women is the package it's sold in, but it is merely a side effect of being awesome. I date all kinds of women, shy and nerdy, outgoing and slutty, mix of the two, studenty nerds, hippies, whatever. …
/r/seduction18/09/12 07:22 PM
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The cycle of this subreddit is the shortest of all of them. Five terrible FRs, two really good ones, and then someone with an exposé that is basically exactly "look, seddit, let me lay it out for you" like this thread, then repeat. It's getting to be weekly now.
/r/seduction18/09/12 07:05 PM
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Ding ding! We have a winner! We tell guys to approach every woman so they get over being scared and learn this.
/r/seduction18/09/12 04:45 PM
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After a long life of woman chasing, I prefer 7s and 8s (I am one of those myself, depending on the person) but who take care of themselves physically, ie eating healthy, active life. Too much perfection is boring and tends to make people really lazy in other avenues. I find incredibly good looking people to be lacking in a lot of other areas. I'm heavily into the concept of wabi-sabi anyway so that might have something to do with it.
/r/seduction12/09/12 05:26 PM
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You're dumb then, I don't know what to tell you. Enjoy mediocrity.
/r/seduction25/08/12 04:16 PM
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Sex isn't something that happens suddenly, it's a progression of events. Your first time isn't going to be a lazy put penis in vagina robot thing like stereotypical married people. As you progress through the foreplay, just slow down or stop at certain points and gauge her reaction. Don't speed into things. Like, if you've been playing with her tits through her bra and then you take her bra off, don't even handle them yet. Put your hand on her face or somewhere else, and then as part of the natu…
/r/seduction25/08/12 10:08 AM
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This can be one of the best. It's awesome hearing "finally a real man!" or something similar when you pull shit like this off. I am a very dominant person and love power struggle games, so it works well for me.
/r/seduction25/08/12 10:01 AM
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If you find being "not bad" acceptable, I don't know what to tell you. I'm here to help others be the best people they can be by sharing my experience and skills.
/r/seduction25/08/12 09:58 AM
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You did I just right in this story. I was doing a follow up summary analysis. ;)
/r/seduction25/08/12 01:41 AM
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Pushing compliance until right at the edge of breaking, then stopping and waiting for them to return to the level is incredibly powerful. You should be doing this all the way up until the moment where it's all over, even through sex. It helps them be comfortable with their own choices (because you're initiating and leading, but they're having a chance to use that as permission to engage again) and helps keep them from having any regrets afterward, because they're going to remember it as somethin…
/r/seduction24/08/12 10:36 PM
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Your reply wasn't the best because you put it back in her court. A few approaches here, depending on the situation and your personality. I have used all of these to success at some point. All of these require appropriate body language to go with them. I bolded my personal favorites that I use regularly. All of the imply a subtle reward to them, because they're the ones bringing up sex first. If they talk about it, they're thinking about fucking you, and you can turn that into a positive. reply l…
/r/seduction24/08/12 10:31 PM
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Awesome. Let us know how it goes with your kiss.
/r/seduction24/08/12 08:52 PM
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One of my friends was dating a Latina. One day he comes home from work to see his big screen TV on the front lawn smashed to pieces and hears crashing and screaming inside. He runs in, thinking his girlfriend is being attacked, only to find her wielding a baseball bat and smashing his shit while screaming in Spanish. She turns and tries to hit him with the bat. Eventually he finds out through her insane rage that "some fucking puta" left a voice message on his answering machine that said to call…
/r/seduction24/08/12 08:24 PM
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Yes, but only if I can post a field report about how I picked up a girl through /r/seduction.
/r/seduction24/08/12 07:44 PM
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You fucking should, there should be more of us blazing the way for others. Slut to me just means that you love sex and understand that sex is a whole experience and not just penis in vagina penetration and you make a hobby out of manifesting and experiencing sexual energy. People always tell me that I have "animal magnetism" and exude sexual energy and that's exactly why. It's not some magic trick, it's just a state of being.
/r/seduction24/08/12 07:42 PM
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No, you're just like most people and confused how it works. Many of the really powerful and successful high level social tools are the opposite of what most people think they should be. Once I convince people to start doing it, immediately they're like "oh my god I feel like I have seduction super powers!"
/r/seduction24/08/12 07:39 PM
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They also know how to be fucking insane. Crazy Latina is a thousand times more crazy than anyone else, except for possibly serial killers. Even worse, this affects the vast majority of them. When you find a good one they are amazing lovers, but be careful, holy shit.
/r/seduction24/08/12 07:34 PM
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Haha, I study sociology and anthropology and I'm a relationship/social/sexuality coach for both sexes. Maybe you can introduce me to your mom?
/r/seduction24/08/12 07:32 PM
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How are your experiences similar to the OP? Do you try to follow male-oriented seduction advice, or do you orient more towards being a strongly social person that also happens to get laid?
/r/seduction24/08/12 07:31 PM
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Too bad? Haha. Slut is a relative term. Everyone defines it differently. For some people, having sex with three people is slutty. For others, having sex before you're married is slutty. For me, slut is a very positive thing and I really only care to partner with other sluts because everyone else is usually boring and inexperienced. It's a completely meaningless word so you just choose how you want to perceive it.
/r/seduction24/08/12 07:30 PM
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I know exactly what you're talking about, and I love when girls power struggle with me, but the way you're describing it is why everyone is reacting, I think. You're talking about it in a way that doesn't sound positive or clear to the guy. It could just be that text is a shitty way to communicate emotions.
/r/seduction24/08/12 07:26 PM
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You should kiss more people and get over your kissing thing. All of those hang ups go away through quantity. Everyone, even bad kissers, have something to teach you. Sometimes especially bad ones.
/r/seduction24/08/12 07:20 PM
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Yes. Everyone should kiss everybody else. Really, one of the huge signs of someone who is a real social expert (especially guys) and someone who isn't is how soon they kiss the other person. It shouldnt take you more than ten minutes from meeting. Hell, sometimes you can do it after three sentences; as soon as you see those eyes. I don't mean making out, but the two second lips touching comfort building one. Depending on the reaction you can go to the making out, but I like to build that irresis…
/r/seduction24/08/12 07:18 PM
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Make sure that you respond to this by teasing, and then pulling him back in. As other people have pointed out, constant resistance isn't teasing, it's "I don't really want to do this but I'm sort of not saying no" which triggers a huge rape-response fear for guys thanks to our culture. Be resistant like you're trying to stop it, but then blatantly give signs that you're not resisting. Please! And tell other women!
/r/seduction24/08/12 03:43 PM
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Did you know that the same part of your brain activates in people when they call someone a slut as it does when they describe themselves with low self-value words? Calling someone a slut in a dirty way is activating your own lack of self esteem and jealousy.
/r/seduction24/08/12 03:41 PM
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Yes, this is very true, and you have touched on one of the major psychological leftovers of the feminist era, it used to be pre-1930s for most of history that men were taught that women only wanted one thing, and watch out for them. This concept for women is a relatively new thing, and is not natural human behavior so it causes a lot of problems. t is why building comfort is so vitally important, and most guys don't get that. It's also why the us vs them mentality is so important to build quickl…
/r/seduction24/08/12 03:38 PM
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You sound like so much fun! I only know one other woman interested in high level social dynamics and interaction, and we will sit for hours and talk about it. I am writing a book about it (not seduction specifically but neo-dating culture) and I wish I had access to more women who did this.
/r/seduction24/08/12 03:29 PM
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That's obviously not what lexur was saying, I was responding to his silly answer. I despise these pompous ignorant egotists who call people shallow for using physical attraction as part of their measurement for quality as a mate. It's perfectly fucking reasonable and human to use it as one of the many qualifiers when choosing a partner.
/r/seduction24/08/12 05:12 AM
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Thanks for the up vote, but it's ok. I wrote it for the OP, and as long as he sees it and reads it, it will get internalized at some point, even if he doesn't remember where it came from. The seduction community is finally starting to make a change over to "it's more about being your best than getting laid" which is really nice to see. It's going to take some people time to catch up, because it's been sold for so long as this step-by-step method for getting laid, when that was (even in the begin…
/r/seduction23/08/12 06:26 PM
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This is how it should be for everyone. If everybody was on our level, it wouldn't take so damn long to find someone of quality. I've been on literally thousands of dates in my life and slept with hundreds of women, and there are probably less than twenty that I've met in my entire life that I would call seriously high quality and wonderful human beings (and some of them are still my very closest friends). I'm meeting them more frequently in the last couple years also. Every time I feel like this…
/r/seduction23/08/12 05:57 PM
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You have obviously not reached the point being discussed here or you'd understand. I judge people based on how smart they are, how pretty I think they are, how emotionally stable they are, how transcended spiritually they are. If you think it's wrong to judge people by how attracted to them you are, you're naive.
/r/seduction23/08/12 05:49 PM
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Congratulations, you've reached the apex of yourself. All that is left now is to keep being better and searching out partners who you feel are worth your time. Learn from my mistakes after reaching this and don't dumb yourself down or sacrifice your own quality in order to get with women. Enjoy the short term ones while you look for the really high quality girls. You need to change your goals again (which is always the first step you should do once you reach a goal) and set your sites on somethi…
/r/seduction23/08/12 05:48 PM
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This whole post is you telling us how unconfident you are. You're caring what they think of you and that's shutting down your ability to react naturally to the situation. That's 80% of what the seduction community teaches; not things to make other people like you, but reverse psychology tricks to make you like yourself. If you weren't so worried you'd come up with something in the moment and you'd probably mess up sometimes (we all do) but you'll get the hang of it. You're obviously doing alrigh…
/r/seduction23/08/12 04:32 PM
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You're doing the worst thing you could possibly do in response.
/r/seduction23/08/12 04:00 PM
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I don't care about downvotes, most people that post here are idiots. We were having a discussion and you were confused and I clarified. Having an over abundance of empathy really sucks most of the time and is not something anyone who has it would be bragging about. That wasn't me being arrogant.
/r/seduction23/08/12 06:12 AM
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No I am making a statement. I have an over abundance of empathy.
/r/seduction22/08/12 08:22 PM
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Yes, that is indeed very good advice, but it doesn't explain how to learn it. I totally believe that people can learn empathy (I am a good example) but you have to give them practical guidelines for how to get there.
/r/seduction22/08/12 07:42 PM
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I very strongly disagree with you because you have it backwards. You shouldn't have to learn to deal with it, because that is encouraging bad behavior. You should learn how pivot small talk into meaningful conversation. Nobody likes small talk. Don't learn to suffer through it, learn to have meaningful conversations with everyone. Once you get the hang of this, talking to random strangers becomes so much easier because they immediately are interested in what you have to say because it's not mund…
/r/seduction22/08/12 07:34 PM
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It's not because there is anything wrong with you, it's because most people care about really dumb shit. The key to caring about conversations with people is to quickly find something they're passionate about and get into that. When they're enthusiastic and care about something, it's infectious, and it goes from listening to some boring person yap about useless crap to some person sharing interesting insight that you can learn from. Then you don't have to be fake. Sometimes (and this is because …
/r/seduction22/08/12 05:06 PM
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95% of the pick up advice can be applied just as equally to women. It's all just social skills wrapped up and sold in a package of "getting laid" which is easy to sell to men. Nothing in your story couldn't have had the genders reversed and been just as accurate. So I dunno, I feel like when I chat guys up they automatically think that's where I want to go. For what it's worth, most of the time the instant a guy talks to a girl she thinks he's just after pussy, so it goes both ways. It's great i…
/r/seduction22/08/12 12:15 AM
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I think you missed the whole point. You gain confidence by putting yourself in the situation that you're so unconfident about. You're going to make some mistakes, but you'll also start having successes and it will feel really good. The very basic thing I always start people on if they find chatting with strangers debilitating is to have a short chat with someone who works at a cash register or a waiter/waitress when the restaurant isn't busy. They are warm, welcoming, and happy to talk to you (b…
/r/seduction21/08/12 05:22 AM
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I meet women everywhere, on the street, on the bus, in grocery stores, through friends, at bars. You just have to talk to them. This is outside of what most new people are comfortable with though. If you can't find anyone with similar interests, either expand your interest pool (which is what I did ages ago) or resign yourself to having to meet a lot more people before you meet someone you're looking for. It's just statistics: increase the sample pool or increase the search parameters.
/r/seduction21/08/12 05:18 AM
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This is all you need. At some point in a short conversation, say "hey, I think you're pretty cool. Want to go on a lunch date?" Use the fucking word "date". And then she says yes or no and that's the end of that phase.
/r/seduction20/08/12 06:13 PM
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I honestly hope that you listen to the advice we're sharing here, because usually the ones that are the most terrified to really be out and part of the world are the ones that have the most unique and interesting perspectives to offer. Best of luck to you.
/r/seduction20/08/12 09:13 AM
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I can tell that you're new to this and have actually done anything in real life, because you just tried to construct an artificial scenario out of nerdy words that don't mean anything in a real life context. There's no shame in that, but don't pretend like you have any idea what you're saying; you're only doing yourself the disservice, not us. We don't care. I will give you a secret: beautiful women are everywhere. Some people like to play games with the truth. If you are a man that likes to pla…
/r/seduction20/08/12 08:41 AM
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Keep going. Learning how to talk to strangers is far more important than learning how to approach girls, because the strangers thing is 90% of the problem. For some reason guys think it's easier to talk to other guys than it is to talk to women, but it's not. Guys are a lot less receptive to you than girls are because you're potential competition, not a potential mate. You just don't care as much, because you don't have a stake in the outcome. So by the time you learn how to talk to guys, and th…
/r/seduction20/08/12 08:14 AM
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Good ones do, and it's possible to find them. It gets easier as you get older and everyone gets more mature.
/r/seduction20/08/12 08:04 AM
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Always tell the truth, but keep the truth plain and unmodified. Most women are great at the first and terrible at the second, and most guys are terrible at the first and great at the second.
/r/seduction20/08/12 08:04 AM
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Why the hell are you spending time on someone who is obviously a loser and the only value to you is her looks? Move the fuck on, there's millions of women out there and you're completely wasting your very precious and finite life time on useless.
/r/seduction16/08/12 03:24 PM
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The really easy answer is to stick with your intentions until you find people that match. Be frank and up front about what you're looking for, and let them make the choice for themselves if they want to participate on the terms you specified. Don't compromise your own desires or feelings for anyone else; you will definitely find people who match you, in abundance.
/r/seduction13/08/12 07:14 AM
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You may be right. I think they're not mutually exclusive though, much of women's behavior (beautiful or not) comes from the expectation that they will be pedestalized. Not that they like it, most women I know hate that, but because it's so common it's the reasonable reaction to all male interaction. Great job on reaching the next level. I always really love seeing guys cross the threshold into pro. It sounds like you have your shit together. Thanks. Care to share your experience? The first time …
/r/seduction13/08/12 06:31 AM
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The second girl really doesn't sound like a shit test to me. Sometimes when you're really on the ball, women will get a bit awed by you. You know that part in Limitless where the girlfriend is suddenly a little self-conscious and nervous and she says "I'm a little bit intimidated by you." (PS she did such great body language there) I expect that's it. She's expressing disbelief at her own feelings that you're as awesome as she thinks you are. Usually when something like that happens, my reaction…
/r/seduction13/08/12 03:07 AM
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Always be closing. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi1MemQ8MqY
/r/seduction11/08/12 07:14 PM
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Yes, this is how you "be alpha" all the time in every single situation. Every one of my closest female friends are girls I dated at some point, and we stayed close because I was direct and honest and clearly stated how I felt... Just like I always do.
/r/seduction11/08/12 04:26 PM
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If this is your worst date ever, you're in for such a treat! Nothing was wrong with this date except you: your reactions and especially your expectations. Just wait until a girl accidentally runs you over with her car, or a girl tries to stab you with a knife, or you walk out of the bathroom after a date to a girl unwakeably passed out on your floor after shitting her pants, or a stupid bitch eats your leftover calzone (this is still the worst one.) Those are bad dates. The one you talked about …
/r/seduction11/08/12 04:17 PM
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Unfortunately, most seduction advice is wrapped up in bullshit that makes it hard to access for women, but every key concept for being a gifted socialite is universal. I do social training for men and sometimes women, and I teach them both the exact same things with some very small variation. Women have an easier time with it because they tend to have less fear in social situations because they get better opening reactions, but other than that it's the same set of struggles for both sexes. If yo…
/r/seduction11/08/12 03:52 PM
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I wasn't there, but I'm not convinced 1 and 2 were mistakes you made. It reads like you did everything solid and a few particular girls just weren't responding. When you're talking to everyone, have a group of friends, and are trying to have fun yourself you just don't have time for everyone's mental issues. You have to make correct choices and reward people who respond well to you with more of you. It sounds like you aced that. My personal method is that I usually give people no chances, or one…
/r/seduction11/08/12 03:45 PM
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Stupid and wrong bullshit. Please stop spouting this crap because your lack of confidence wants to ruin the good times for everyone else. I've seen some of ugly fat sweaty neckbeards walk up to women and pull things just like this because they are incredibly confident. It doesn't work on every woman, but it doesn't work on every woman even if you're hot. I used to be one, so I know what I'm talking about. It was easier when I was fat, because I gave no fucks at all and also it was a surprise and…
/r/seduction10/08/12 06:22 PM
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Proves that yet again it really doesn't matter what you say for your first impression, as long as it's strong and confident and you follow through. I hope the people in this thread pick up from that rather than just high fiving you and thinking you got lucky.
/r/seduction10/08/12 04:21 PM
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There are a lot of poor countries in the world where a rich white guy wouldn't get the sort of attention he's talking about here. I've been to tons of poor countries, but not to southeast Asia, and I can tell you that I didn't have this experience in any of those. Plenty of good and hot women, but not like the OP is describing at all.
/r/seduction08/08/12 07:09 PM
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Use more skill. My point was that people who aren't chumps (men and women) are going to find this to be a shitty question. Anyone who is living their passions and not just wishing for them in the future is going to be turned off. I my experience/opinion.
/r/seduction08/08/12 06:58 AM
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I like the Hitler one, because most people and conversation bore me so I like to throw in crazy shit to try to succeed through anyway. Plus I do a lot of research on what "bad guys" of history have to teach us for personal improvement.
/r/seduction07/08/12 07:09 PM
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Someone else posted above the one that I like a lot better and use frequently to great success: "what can you do better than anyone else in the room?" For some reason, the answer is almost always sexual.
/r/seduction07/08/12 07:08 PM
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In all honesty I'm learning this for the fun of it, not to pick up HB7s Exactly why you should learn anything! Not to pick up women but because you want to learn it! It will be so much more meaningful and you will be more passionate, and it will be more impressive.
/r/seduction07/08/12 07:07 PM
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I hate that passion question. Asking or being asked. It's one of the easiest things to find out about people without just directly asking. The problem is it makes the conversation one-sided if it's something you don't have an interest in, and then you get into nodding and smiling instead of participating, and then they do that thing where they say "oh sorry I'm talking so much" and it totally messes up the momentum of the conversation and you have to try to recover. Much, much better is to talk …
/r/seduction07/08/12 07:03 PM
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One of my favorites. I use little variations on this all the time. Glad to see someone else having success with it. For some reason, this question almost always gets an answer relating to sex. (But that could just be that my kind of women are more sexually comfortable and open minded.)
/r/seduction07/08/12 06:55 PM
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If I could get new guys to take one single thing from this it would be number 4. God I cringe every time I hear someone say that or see chumps telling other people to say that. No! Don't walk up and say anything that has "you're cute" in it! Blargh! Somehow this is the hardest thing to beat out of dudes' heads when I'm training them. Also, really great writeup. Much better quality and correctness of content than usual for /r/seduction. Great job. If we had a "top posts for chumps" section I'd vo…
/r/seduction07/08/12 02:01 PM
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The answer is to always stay confident. Usually it doesn't matter what you say, as long as you're strong and confident when you say it. And mean what you say, but that comes from confidence.
/r/seduction06/08/12 04:31 AM
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I have tried to post OK Cupid advice here in the past, and as you can see, the responses are almost all by idiots who disagree with and shoot down everything you say. The same ones who, when an FR is posted, go "o my god dood u r so sixk!!" Now I only post specific advice when people ask for it. Before getting discouraged or trying to answer every comment, just remember that the reactions of most chumps is to get mad at women and/or the places where they meet them when they fail to succeed to me…
/r/seduction05/08/12 01:38 AM
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Take improv class, seriously. This is the best thing you will ever do for your social skills.
/r/seduction03/08/12 04:27 PM
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One thing to keep in mind is that most of the people you see here are beginners who would otherwise be sitting in their basements or rooms playing World of Warcraft. There is nothing wrong with people who do this, but these guys want something more. This was created by us (the naturals and the experts) to assist guys who haven't had the opportunity to learn what we know. Guys like this, the nerdy and hidden and introverted, have a lot to add to the world and our lives, but society makes it reall…
/r/seduction30/07/12 02:15 AM
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I'm with you then. I love doing shit like this if I meet someone who is worth the effort. Most guys new to game don't have that clear understanding, they're still trying to qualify themselves to girls instead of the other way around, and I feel like it's an important thing to try to demonstrate to them over and over until it sinks in.
/r/seduction29/07/12 06:43 PM
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Since it sounds like you're a woman, if you're interested in exploring more about different kinds of relationships, I recommend The Ethical Slut. It's written by two very feminine women and I have a hard time relating to it (as do most of my male friends) but it seems to be invaluable for feminine aspect people. All of my girls have raves about it. Most of the guys go for Sex at Dawn more (my personal preference). "Talking to" made me laugh! It sounds hilariously ambiguous, like it could get you…
/r/seduction29/07/12 06:27 PM
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I read this long thing at the beginning getting ready to tear it apart but... that's not bad. You'd have to be very cool and confident, but it does who that you are having your own life and don't care. This is pretty much how I would do it if I didn't immediately and obviously know that this was someone I was into. If I was only curious or half-sure, I'd go the slow way. You do fall apart around step 6 though and get into creepy ville. How do you know this girl is worth all that effort when you'…
/r/seduction29/07/12 04:57 PM
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I agree with all this, and want to add for your own confidence that the reason your friend won't give you her number is because he thinks you have the chance to "steal" her from him. That means he's nervous about your game. Take that in a good way. If he was confident, he'd laugh at you and give you the number and wish you luck because you'll need it. Jealousy is not a real emotion, it's misdirected anger at something external because of anger at an internal perceived shortcoming. Confident peop…
/r/seduction29/07/12 04:51 PM
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Ugh that's not what I said. Being kind to people is not chivalry. Chivalry is the imaginary "my dearest lady let us bequeath unto you a great honor by allowing me to pretend my penis makes me better than you." Everyone wants what you said (who doesn't like to be little spoon sometimes? And I'm very masculine). Don't fool yourself and think that kindness and being turned on by strength is solely a women's category. Men like strong women too, it was equal to judge your partners by their survival a…
/r/seduction29/07/12 03:42 PM
1

I'm not sure why you replied to me with that, we were talking about how non-monogamous people refer to their partners, but that is a true statement.
/r/seduction29/07/12 08:46 AM
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Sure thing. Partner is a general term that is more or less used the same by everyone. I don't know the etymology but I expect that it came out of the BDSM community (which has a lot of crossover with polyamory, being alternative) where people that you do play sessions with are commonly called partners. There's also the less ambiguous term used by gay men and women before the advent of legal gay marriage, ie the "life partner." Now, in my experience and my own usage, "partner" is a catch-all for …
/r/seduction29/07/12 07:48 AM
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Why, mister wizard, why? Chivalry is another word for pedestalizing men higher than women as protectors and caretakers who think they know best what is for women rather than letting them decide for themselves. (Sane) Women don't want that shit, they have been spending the last fifty years trying to overcome it. Chivalry is for nice guys who don't want to feel like assholes when they demean women.
/r/seduction29/07/12 07:35 AM
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I'm not sure if that's quite true anymore. It seems increasingly more common for women and men both to use the boyfriend/girlfriend word for more serious but non monogamous partners. I have noticed a definite increase in the last five years, enough so that it's more common than not at this point. Obviously this is anecdotal, but I am very active in many different communities, so take what you will from it.
/r/seduction29/07/12 07:33 AM
1

Serious question, how many times has that actually worked for you? Most groups of girls have a fierce protection of their friends, and there's always going to be one of the archetypical "who the fuck are you?" and "no, fuck off!" kinds of girls with various responses. Mixed groups are more likely to be accepting, but girls are much less likely to leave mixed groups at all. Also, most girls look to their peers for qualification, and if you just brushed off her friends and slighted them by ignorin…
/r/seduction29/07/12 04:22 AM
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To you that's what it means, yes! Exactly! Everyone defines those terms differently, and it is when incompatible people try to form relationships that trouble starts, usually people make sacrifices or try to pigeonhole themselves into what they think a relationship "should be." I do relationship coaching and this is the root of 85% of the problems I deal with: incompatible expectations. I know many monogamous and polyamorous people, and every single one of them defines it differently. Some of my…
/r/seduction29/07/12 04:17 AM
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That's not a good idea to do before you make the group comfortable, or you're incredibly likely to get shot down immediately. Unless you're a famous rock star, this is a really wasteful idea. You need to build some comfort and rapport with the whole group before you do the "borrow her" line.
/r/seduction29/07/12 12:50 AM
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Yes. You never know. If a really awesome guy was hitting on one of my girls and she was really into him, I'd be super disappointed if he stopped talking to her when he found out she was seeing someone. None of us would call it "cheating" because (for me) there is no such thing. Some of my very best and closest friends in the world are guys who were dating women I was dating at the same time. It's like you have other people helping you filter out the good people.
/r/seduction29/07/12 12:46 AM
2

Ah, welcome to the world of instant dates. I hardly bother with asking women out later anymore, unless we're in a situation that doesn't lend itself to moving right away. Doing a date right now while the meeting is fresh is so fun and exciting. I love spontaneous and social people though, it may not be the right choice for everyone (as you saw for yourself, perhaps). My favorite instant date location (or first date location, period) is a bookstore. Something big like Half Price or Borders or wha…
/r/seduction29/07/12 12:32 AM
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Thank you for this excellent and concise summary. I was incredibly lucky enough to be born a "natural" and an empath and my parents are both socially gifted. Although I study sociology and anthropology, sometimes I have a difficult time relating to "normal" people and on occasion I run into something like this that I can't even begin to pry open. I couldn't clearly understand the value of the book because no one had outlined clearly what it is that they got from it, because it was useless to me.…
/r/seduction28/07/12 11:25 PM
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Because I wanted an answer, stupid. I specifically said exactly what you just said but without being a smarmy asshole. This was such a useless post, you could have spent the same amount of time answering my question as you did being a cock. Did you even read the book? I don't remember it saying "if someone asks you a question, you should be a cunt and assume that they're stupid and be an asshole to them." In fact, I specifically remember it saying things that were the opposite of that.
/r/seduction28/07/12 10:04 PM
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I don't want to discourage anyone from reading it because it seems like a lot of people get something out of it, but I thought this book was useless and I have never understood the reason people bring it up so much. Would you mind explaining what you got out of it?
/r/seduction28/07/12 09:45 AM
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That was a well-crafted opener. Most guys make the mistake of saying "I just wanted to" or some variation speaking of the past tense. When you're first meeting someone, you shouldn't talk outside of present tense, it really helps ground the conversation and not let either of you drift. Even not using future tense when you go for the a phone number makes a big difference because you're still grounded in the moment where she is comfortable and attracted and her brain doesn't have time to start put…
/r/seduction27/07/12 02:53 AM
2

I could have written exactly this and it would have summed it up perfectly word for word (except two strippers). I have a wide variety of sexual attraction to physical characteristics; the inner person is the one I really have a type for. I honestly don't care at all what they look like as long as I find them physically attractive. I am sure though you could find trends in it, but I expect that is more due to the regions that I've lived and the subcultures that I have been a part of.
/r/seduction27/07/12 02:49 AM
1

There is an entire subsection of Asian that is red haired and green eyes and they are some of the most beautiful human beings ever. Even the saggy old ladies still have this ridiculous beauty to them. Genius Khan was a pale Asian with red hair and freckles.
/r/seduction27/07/12 02:45 AM
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There is nothing shallow about desiring a mate that cares enough about themselves to self improve. I am not attracted by fat women, not because of the visuals (which I don't find any for or against) but because of what it says about their character. It's hard to tell if someone cares about themselves mentally, spiritually, and emotionally—spends a lot of their time learning and reading about subjects they're interested in, or studying spirituality, or learning to cope with emotions and grow as a…
/r/seduction27/07/12 02:41 AM
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No, no. No. Unless you're starting to recite Frank O'Hara, in which case, yes times one thousand.
/r/seduction27/07/12 01:25 AM
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Yes, that's a great one, you repeat that to her as if you're scandalized and can't believe she just said that and say "wow you're very forward!" or "wow that escalated quickly!" or "wow that sounds really kinky!" and tease her with it. Yes.
/r/seduction27/07/12 01:18 AM
2

Holy crap, this guy is amazing. He is way better than me, and I can almost never say that. Really looking forward to it.
/r/seduction26/07/12 10:07 PM
1

One letter names are impossibile to keep track of. Can you replace it with some useful and readable names?
/r/seduction26/07/12 09:53 PM
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Never ever give negative or cocky feedback to compliments. You're conditioning them to expect bad feedback when they compliment you, which then leads to them not thinking positive things about you. Complimenting someone requires a vulnerability in the speaker that needs to be rewarded. When someone compliments you, anyone, you look them in the eye (or imagine it, if you're texting) and say a genuine "thank you." Not thanks, or I know, or you too, just thank you. Appreciate it, and you will respo…
/r/seduction26/07/12 05:11 PM
1

I hadn't thought of that, but since you asked I've realized that I haven't seen any of this anywhere else. I'll write something and post it. Good idea.
/r/seduction24/07/12 06:00 AM
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Also, don't do the exposé "I love you and want to be with you" because that's confusing and terrible for any women. Just man up and start seducing her, she'll look at you in a new way and reconsider what she thinks. It could still be friends, but at least it's clear. And she might think about it, and you may get her anyway.
/r/seduction24/07/12 05:59 AM
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The answer to your title is "because people make a way bigger deal out of it than it really is and then allow that to become fear and then allow that fear to paralyze them." I don't think you need Buddhism either, but if you look at any pro, they are Zen as hell even if they don't care about or follow Buddhism. I know I don't, but the zen tenants of it (best summed up in the non-affiliated Power of Now) is incredibly important.
/r/seduction23/07/12 06:51 PM
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That's awesome man, I'm glad it had that big of an impact. With most rich people, you just have to remember that their power comes from the outside, not the inside. They can afford really big guns but they just wave them around threateningly and hope you get scared off/people think they're impressive. They rattle their plastic sabers, you point out how silly they are for thinking anyone is impressed. Even if people were impressed, now they're not (and feel like you showed them something and now …
/r/seduction23/07/12 06:15 PM
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There are so many better replies you could have said here, instead of defending your choice that obviously didn't work for you. Why post about things if not to listen to advice? Next time, don't put a table between you on a date. Pick up your chair and move it closer. Stand up, move to the other chair, sit down, kiss her. Suggest you take your ice cream outside, then as you leave, grab her arm lightly but firmly and turn her and kiss her. It's unlimited.
/r/seduction23/07/12 06:13 PM
1

Where are you that you don't? I still hear it used in several places throughout America.
/r/seduction23/07/12 05:06 PM
1

Amen brother! Nothing better than running into someone who understands the breakdown of true communication and not just verbal words which are such a tiny part of it.
/r/seduction23/07/12 05:01 PM
2

Take improv classes. I was already a naturally good conversationalist and it made a huge difference for me. It removes all of the pressure of the girl pickup and is just purely the communication form under pressure. Some of my shy clients have had huge results too. It teaches you how to be an incredible conversationalist.
/r/seduction23/07/12 05:00 PM
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And says the guy with natural approach but bad conversation skills "Now if only I were a bit better at conversation..." I was the same as you but I just forced myself to do it over and over until it was easy. Seriously, if you're a good conversationalist you should be able to approach anyone and start talking. A good way to challenge yourself is to not plan what you're going to say until you've greeted them. Throw yourself into the wolves.
/r/seduction23/07/12 04:54 PM
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Kiss her next time. Silent moments are one of the best moments for it. Starts to get quiet, no conversation happens, make and hold eye contact for a second, smile big, reach in and kiss. Boom, super comfort and now you've kissed. Don't make out, just hold lips for a couple seconds, then pull back to relaxing position. Easy as pie.
/r/seduction23/07/12 04:50 PM
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There's more to it than that, don't sell yourself or other men short by saying they've graduated to being like women. The seduction community is just one of many responses to the feminist and equal rights movement that happened during the middle of our parent's generation. Women have been raised in a culture completely and utterly different than their mothers were. They've learned by necessity and by all of the changes to their environment because of the feminist movement. As a result, men have …
/r/seduction23/07/12 04:48 PM
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Super solid. Every time you did something I was going to comment on, you pulled it back together and succeeded. Great job. One comment about the post-meeting text message, I did a six month experiment A/B tesing whether I should say something about "next time" and it seemed like leaving it open either gets them to ask for another time, or they respond much better when I ask them in a few days (or whenever I have time again) if they want to get together. I thought it would be more likely that the…
/r/seduction23/07/12 09:22 AM
2

Oh my god I love rich people game. They're such easy competition because the guys all rely solely on how big their bank dick is and being condescending assholes, so when you prove to be immune to it, it makes them so mad and I find it endlessly entertaining. Chumps with money are even worse than normal chumps because their entitlement is at such a ridiculous level it's almost comical and you can blatantly use it against them in such dick-shrinking ways. Let's break down your story to show what y…
/r/seduction23/07/12 08:54 AM
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Sure. Making eye contact doing a wave and smile when you're far away winking (super boss if you can pull it off, this is one of my signatures and it gets regular sassy compliments like "you were so cocky, I just had to see") quick eyebrow raise/drop exagerrated The Rock eyebrows if you catch them making eye contact with you several times and when you're dancing and they butt in or obviously do something to get your attention teasing kino (a personal favorite is a hand brush across the shoulders …
/r/seduction23/07/12 08:13 AM
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Yeah, I thought about it more after I said that and now I think you're right here. I have definitely gotten the "fuck me" eyes from women who I wasn't even paying attention to just from strong conversation. Thanks for the compelling argument.
/r/seduction23/07/12 08:00 AM
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It seems like being interesting by itself won't get you laid, but being a master kino wizard will. I have friends who are quiet and not great at conversation (and look like "the quiet type" to women) but are masters at kino and they have some amazing looking take homes. Not girls I'd pick, but it's better that way. I think they are both incredibly important though. I myself highly prefer women who are good at conversation above most other factors.
/r/seduction23/07/12 07:32 AM
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Never ever ask yes or no questions except in times of emergency. Make them think about what you're saying, and you'll be a more interesting person automatically.
/r/seduction23/07/12 07:30 AM
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When you're talking to people, it's perfectly ok and even better to pause while you think and while you talk. It keeps people interested in what you're saying and builds tension and interest. Some of the best conversationalists I know are introverts who figured out how to use their challenges as gifts. A great example was posted to videos today, from Robert Downey Jr (who is obviously not an introvert but is alpha as fuck and demonstrates what I am talking about.) Watch it and pay attention to h…
/r/seduction23/07/12 07:28 AM
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In ironic fact, this PROTIP just got me a date with this hottie who I've been talking to off and on for a few months who was going through some shit when we first met. Score!
/r/seduction23/07/12 06:47 AM
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don't be creepy don't care about her, care about what she has to offer only engage partially until she gives you a real reason to be interested other than her looks
/r/seduction23/07/12 06:21 AM
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Reply with "ok cool" or whatever variation sounds natural for you, and then invite them to something else later. Don't do it right away, but a few days or a week, whatever feels right. If that doesn't work, try again. If they're still answering you, and they're not saying "no and never no" or "please stop texting me" then you can still keep going. Some girls require a long game if you're both busy or they're tied up in something. I had a girl I was not interested in at all very slowly pursue me …
/r/seduction23/07/12 05:33 AM
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This is usually counterproductive because it makes you seem like you're complaining about silly stuff compared to how amazing you are (their perception). I learned this one day when a female friend actually got angry and said "You know you're complaining about stuff that is better than most people's best? How do you think that makes you look?" It was humbling, and that's the key. When you're really awesome, you have two choices: don't give a fuck if people are intimidated by you (this is what I …
/r/seduction22/07/12 06:13 PM
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Don't tell them you don't have a bed. Make the couch into a sexy thing on its own. Sit them down on the couch, start the action, move to the floor or the dining room table or the patio or another piece of furniture, whatever. Your mindset needs to be that you're the boss and she's lucky you're letting her have sex with you. She earned that opportunity, it's not some thing she's doing for you that you're lucky to have. You know you're awesome at sex, but you have no idea if she is, you're taking …
/r/seduction22/07/12 08:48 AM
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Sounds like a normal date for adults. Good story telling. It's so, so much easier with women over 35. Good job with what you did, it sounds like you handled the problems well. It seems smooth enough that this is normal for you. Also really nice going early and chatting with the bartender, this is a normal thing for me and it opens so many doors. If you're waiting for someone, never go sit alone - talk to the bartender!!
/r/seduction22/07/12 08:25 AM
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The thing about kissing (and not making out) is that it is a sign of intent for men and a sign of acceptance for women that no other kino shows. Holding hands, touching, cuddling, playing hand games, women do this with their friends. They don't mouth kiss, so that's your first physical contact that says "this is sexual for us." This is the reason most pros don't post about "k-closes" because we're doing k-opens in a few minutes or even less sometimes depending on the scene. In my opinion, proper…
/r/seduction21/07/12 07:08 PM
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PROTIP: don't wait until the "kiss goodbye" to kiss a girl. You're missing out on all of the really awesome and easy comfort that comes after a kiss. Don't make out the first time you kiss, just a lips on, second or two, pull away. This is a huge thing for guys to comprehend, but kissing a guy makes women more comfortable with you as long as you do the kiss/pull. The way I know when to kiss a girl is when I feel like kissing her, and not just because she's hot and kissable. She has built enough …
/r/seduction21/07/12 06:05 PM
1

The way I do this, being an extrovert, is to go have a beer or a snack at a loud and busy bar. I don't bother with trying to meet anyone, just sit back, chill, and absorb the energy. I do a lot of people watching, sorting out in my head what the situations are and who is what. I don't think about what I'd do if I were doing game, just watch and deconstruct. Doing this with no pressure gets me ready for when I'm in the moment and have to do it in real time. Once I'm fully energized and ready to g…
/r/seduction21/07/12 05:46 PM
2

This is so true, and it's why I more look forward to the nights where I don't care about going out than the ones I do. They almost always end up in shenanigans because I just didn't care where I ended up.
/r/seduction21/07/12 05:36 PM
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Implying and hoping is chump bullshit. Be direct and honest. You want people who are on the same page as you, and if the other person isn't adult enough to deal with your feelings they're not worth your time.
/r/seduction20/07/12 03:21 PM
5

You're making the mistake of appeasement with a random Internet stranger.
/r/seduction20/07/12 03:20 PM
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I always tell everyone this. I say, "I will answer any questions you want with complete honesty, but you'd better be sure you want to know the answer." It puts the onus on them to decide about their own choice, and if they ask something stupid they don't want to hear, I'm free and clear and it's on them. It has caused way, way less drama since I approach it this way, and I often get very positive feedback from it (and even thanked sometimes).
/r/seduction20/07/12 03:18 PM
1

Argentinian women are some of my favorites in the world, if not the top spot. Even the ones that aren't traditionally hot are so damn sexy. Argentinian people are awesome. Can't wait to go back.
/r/seduction19/07/12 08:38 PM
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Thanks for mentioning the first paragraph, that's a blindspot for me that I get too "what's wrong with you, it's easy!" about, since it's something I've always been good at. That is a good point, but I think people put too much weight on what other people are doing. (I sort of think you addressed your own concern in the following paragraphs?) It's entirely possible to break through people's day-to-days, even if they're on the phone. There are some mind hacks you can use that make it easy, but it…
/r/seduction19/07/12 07:33 AM
2

Always ask for the number, if it feels right, which you'll learn through practice, an is a combination of do I like this girl? do I want to see this girl again? am I attracted to this girl for more than just her good looks and body? (this one is important once you're sick of meaningless sex) will I be sure to see this girl again where a better setting will happen for asking a number? bbe careful with this one, because opportunities often only come once.)
/r/seduction19/07/12 07:26 AM
2

You should alpha up then and start deciding where to go. Find other awesome places that you like and go there. Go to a new bar/club everyday, have one beer, and then go home. Feel the places out. Then next time your friends want to go somewhere (or next time you want to go somewhere) tell your friends where you're going and invite them along. If you can't sell them on it, go anyway and pick up a new group of friends and/or hot girls, and the tell your friends about it. Once you start being succe…
/r/seduction19/07/12 02:17 AM
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I have this problem too, but it's not because I can't hear, it's because I have ADD which makes it hard for me to separate sound context but also really awesome at knowing everything that's going on in a room (good with the bad, right?) The way I deal with it is by firstly avoiding places where you can't have decent conversation, if I'm in a mood to talk. Sometimes I want to go places and dance to loud music and not care about meeting people, so I do that. If I'm actively out to meet new people,…
/r/seduction19/07/12 01:55 AM
1

You stand out in a crowd by being in all of the subgroups. If there's only one, you do it by only half being in that group. Think of all of the people in your life that seemed the ultra coolest—it's always the ones that come to parties late and leave early, that always seem like they're doing something totally awesome but they're giving you some attention too before they move on to something else, they're the ones that (with perfect timing) interrupt to tell a story or change the frame or move t…
/r/seduction19/07/12 01:28 AM
1

1- If you're in a group and no matter what you can't include everyone, sometimes that's a good thing. One of the strongest concepts of bonding is the "personal world" idea, where it's just the two of you in your own little world. Sometimes that really works in your favor. If you keep trying to include the group and after a few efforts it seems pointless, fuck 'em. It's not your job to make the horses drink, just to lead them to water. Don't waste your energy. You have a few options at that point…
/r/seduction19/07/12 01:22 AM
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Go to malls, ride the bus, go to meetup.com groups, ask your male friends to introduce you to their female friends, get a different job, join a redditors local group, go to concerts, go to music festivals, go to the damn grocery store. Women are everywhere, if you're not finding women to hit on or be friends with, the hard truth is it's because you're a boring person. Get out and do stuff.
/r/seduction19/07/12 12:30 AM
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Its really, really easy. Are you am extrovert? Get a place with roommates. Are you an introvert? Get a place alone. Extroverts and introverts in this case using the definition that extroverts get their energy from being around others and introverts get their energy from being alone.
/r/seduction19/07/12 12:27 AM
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None, because it didn't exist back when I got started. My friends and I had to do good old hard work and pushing each other to succeed. I was very lucky that I had the right group at the right time. It gave me a strong interest in interpersonal dynamics and much less about being laid and more about studying human behavior while also having fun. I came to the seduction community by way of The Game (like most people, I bet) but it was through my study of social dynamics and anthropology and how it…
/r/seduction18/07/12 06:42 PM
2

Well, your belief is wrong and you're defeating yourself by thinking you have to be perfect to not be friendzoned.
/r/seduction18/07/12 06:36 PM
1

I think it's easy to say that now that we're older, but I personally haven't found any other way to get to that point for people I train. I'm doing the preliminary studies for a book about it, in fact. The way I see it is that the previous generation had a completely different social and dating life than we did. Seriously, ask your parents what it was like to date when they were in their teens to thirties (or wait for my book) and you'll hear how super different it was. Women's suffrage and espe…
/r/seduction18/07/12 06:25 PM
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It sounds like you've circumvented all of the rest of the crap that people have to go through to find that pro zen since you've effectively absorbed the buddhist mindset as well. "Crazy good results" is exactly right. That surprise and joy never goes away as long as you continue to recognize and be properly gracious and appreciative to how lucky you are to experience it. Great work!!!
/r/seduction17/07/12 10:29 PM
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I don't think you should force yourself to interact with people on a further level just for the sake of doing it, because if you're present enough to be recognizing whether they're worth your time or not during the act, I don't think you're going to have trouble getting numbers when you recognize someone worth your time. That's a huge level up that takes most people a long time to get to. I think that's one of the few things that matter, that recognition in real time. I never found value in prac…
/r/seduction15/07/12 11:41 PM
2

Oh, because I was looking up "60 years of change" due to a misread, silly brain.
/r/seduction13/07/12 05:46 PM
1

Google failed and reddit's search is completely useless, so thanks for the summary, it sounds interesting. The power of silence is something that I've always felt is seriously missing from most seduction stuff I've read. I feel like they usually convey that you should always be non-stop active and "on" and I find that counterproductive. I'll have to check this out, thanks.
/r/seduction13/07/12 05:37 PM
2

I know what you're saying, and I suppose it's how you measure the quality of sex, but at risk of sounding unintentionally condescending, I'm guessing if you're still qualifying vaginas and getting fucked as the measurements of quality, you haven't had really spectacular sex. I don't want to sound like an asshole, but I remember using those same kinds of phrases and mindset until I figured this out. There is a transcendent point where you realize that sex is an energy that you share as part of an…
/r/seduction13/07/12 05:35 PM
3

Nothing in your post or the first comment give any context, can you explain what you're talking about for the rest of us?
/r/seduction13/07/12 04:52 PM
2

Really? I sure wouldn't, because almost as a rule, young women are inexperienced, awkward, and terrible at sex. 20-26 year old women are consistently the worst sex of my life. I found that it was the female equivalent of awkward 15 year old boy phase. At the mental shift around 26-27 the awkwardness fades away, and then around mid 30s it's almost like they transform into a different species and it becomes absolutely spectacular (almost as a rule). It's really easy to have sex with beautiful wome…
/r/seduction13/07/12 04:42 PM
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You said exactly the same thing I did only with more detail and heaps of unnecessary vitriol. outside of a few specific markets is what I said. Science and math degrees will net you more money, if you manage to get job. Research the job market of whatever degrees you are interested in to find out if it's worth it. I know some very smart scientists with degrees that can't get jobs. I know a lot of people that have degrees and jobs but don't deserve the job. Be smart, research, but realize that a …
/r/seduction13/07/12 07:45 AM
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Quitting video games almost completely was one of the best things I ever did for my happiness. Now I can't remember how I ever wasted so much time in virtual worlds when there is such an incredible and endless real one. It's never too late.
/r/seduction13/07/12 04:17 AM
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This is true and I agree with you, but it's things I learned by being a seductionist since my middle teens through my 20s. As we often mention, the seduction community is about self-improvement under the guise of bagging hot chicks. I think the things that you learn as a result of it are far more valuable, and once you have your self to a really great level, bagging hot chicks becomes a side effect of being really awesome and not something you have to constantly pursue.
/r/seduction13/07/12 12:06 AM
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Quality over quantity - don't waste time with stupid women (people) no matter how beautiful or awesome they seem. If they're not actively making your life better and causing you drama or pain, get rid of them. Only give your precious time and energy to people who truly appreciate it and give something back. You should be amazed at this amazing person wants to be around you, and the feeling should be mutual. Women are more valuable than sexual commodities - sex is awesome, I have a lot of it, I l…
/r/seduction12/07/12 11:08 PM
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I learned it from you, dad!
/r/seduction12/07/12 07:37 PM
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Why did you repeat back to me exactly what I already said, except in the form of an accusatory question?
/r/seduction12/07/12 06:58 PM
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This is going to happen no matter what, because most people suck at social situations and "need" to drink in order to be social, so they get jealous of your skills. Are the girls you're gaming on having fun? Are they enjoying your presence? Are you having a good time? Then fuck the rest. I manage this by just not drinking. My big social time and my drinking time are totally separate. If I want to drink, I go somewhere chill like a whiskey bar or a shithole small dive bar and drink there but don'…
/r/seduction12/07/12 06:48 PM
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This is definitely not true. The more confident and skilled you are at social situations, the more likely you are to have strangers approach you. Women are really attracted to confident men who run the social game and don't give a fuck (and so are men, in a different way). In full game mode at a club, I will have women approaching me regularly. Obviously not as much as guys approaching them, but it definitely happens. I'm not any better looking than I was 5 years ago, but the frequency of approa…
/r/seduction12/07/12 06:35 PM
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I don't only mean the reddit community, I mean the entire pickup community that has risen in the last few years. It's understandable though, if you're a lonely virgin and you see guys out picking up beautiful women, it's easy to think the only thing they're doing is having sex with beautiful women, when that is just a side effect of the whole thing. It's an easy goal to set and an easy target to sell.
/r/seduction12/07/12 01:45 AM
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Great job! It really is life-changing, and just think: this is only the beginning. You know how awesome it is now? It gets better, for the rest of your life. Every moment is a chance to become a better person, once you make the decision to let nothing stop you.
/r/seduction11/07/12 09:36 PM
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I wish more people inside the community realized this!
/r/seduction11/07/12 09:33 PM
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Yeah, this was the best part of the thread. Seddit always makes you skip the first two up voted threads to get to valuable discussions that aren't chump circlejerks.
/r/seduction11/07/12 05:21 PM
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No, not everyone. There is an entire culture of people in the world where this sort of behavior is not just allowed but encouraged, and a lot of them (myself included) have no concept of what "jealousy" means because whatever part of our brain exists to create that feeling doesn't exist for us. The OP's story sounds hot, and picking up strangers while your partner watches is one of my favorite activities to do, both to watch and to be the one doing the picking up. This isn't as unusual as most p…
/r/seduction11/07/12 05:18 PM
3

Why should we read Prometheus Rising?
/r/seduction11/07/12 06:01 AM
3

Ignore him/her. This was a good thread and a solid question. Don't be out off by idiots telling you not to do something or you'll never get anywhere.
/r/seduction11/07/12 06:00 AM
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Tell her "I'm going biking" and invite her, then if she flakes out, tell her how awesome it was the next time you talk. Don't do it pushy, but be genuinely excited to share it. The trick to having people want to be around you is to look like you're having more fun than they are, and they should hang out with you if they want to have fun too.
/r/seduction11/07/12 04:44 AM
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Everyone starts somewhere. Encourage and teach others, and soon they will be encouraging and teaching you.
/r/seduction11/07/12 04:39 AM
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That's really great! It sounds like you've turned things around by going inside yourself. I wish everyone could do that.
/r/seduction11/07/12 04:34 AM
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I was going to say this. Once you're in your late twenties and up, women (people) lose interest in small talk Q&A and generally want to have real discussions about real things. I prefer to save the favorites for when it's contextual, like laying around listening to music, or deciding what movies to see. If I tried this with any of my success stories (or they with me) we'd get bored and move on really quickly. Usually when I text someone for the first time, it's with a link to some study or inter…
/r/seduction11/07/12 03:55 AM
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Oh wow, I love this one. Fail people quickly so you can find the good ones. Thanks for the great idea.
/r/seduction11/07/12 03:52 AM
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This is true, but the societal acceptance comes from the biological acceptance. Women just tend to be better at intragender intimacy.
/r/seduction11/07/12 02:01 AM
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I've had more group sex partners than most people have had normal ones, and almost always my partners, long term or short term, end up being interested in it and we sex together. So, to contrast what most people have said, including the top voted guy who has never actually done it before, don't just let the girl do the work. Everyone always ignores this advice and then they're confused when their life either gets filled with drama or they have no success with people outside of their existing cir…
/r/seduction10/07/12 10:52 PM
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This is very true, most guys try to avoid contact with women in public because they think it will drive them away. Nope. Nothing makes a woman want a guy like a woman already having the guy. I think that's how threesomes are so easy with women, it's competitive up to the point where "fuck it, I'm horny" comes in.
/r/seduction10/07/12 10:44 PM
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Sorry you're getting down voted, I came here to say basically this. For the record, I have a lot of group sex and threesomes, with both long term and short term partners.
/r/seduction10/07/12 10:41 PM
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I keep trying to think of a way to reply to you but it's hard to summarize so many years of being in the same place as you and trying to figure out what changed. I was never shy and I started doing what you're talking about much younger, but I think I know exactly what you're talking about, much of what you described about yourself fits me exactly. After years of regular and constant sex with a lot of women, I came to the same realization that you are having—sex with tons of people are nice, but…
/r/seduction10/07/12 02:07 AM
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It doesn't matter what I think it means, it matters what you think it means. It's completely subjective.
/r/seduction08/07/12 12:21 AM
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This is incredibly important advice—far, far more important than anything you will ever read about seduction or picking up women. Incredible people—and I don't just mean physically beautiful, but people who you're like "holy shit this is a spectacular human being"—have a really hard time finding other amazing people. You reach a point where you can no longer relate to normal people. You just have nothing in common with them, because while they're farting away their lives in mediocrity, you're le…
/r/seduction07/07/12 08:28 PM
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Thank you for mentioning the meme about thanking someone for linking to the dunning-kruger effect. I feel that it is particularly relevant to where I am right now.
/r/seduction07/07/12 06:07 PM
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Being afraid or nervous is a really good sign, because it means you're facing an opportunity to learn and experience something new. Don't try not to be afraid, that's like trying to physically pick yourself up off the floor. Keep going despite the fear, and it will go away on its own.
/r/seduction04/07/12 09:29 PM
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The close isn't the point, the experience of exploring something new with someone is. It sounds like you aced it, nice work. If you can find satisfaction in all of your accomplishments, you'll enjoyit more and also be better at it and more genuine, because you're enjoying it.
/r/seduction04/07/12 09:11 PM
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Make a list of the things you really love about yourself. Not just the things you like, but the stuff you love that you would use to describe your essence. Now you have your list of things to look for in other people. This is one of those things that Is obvious as you get older but is hard to figure out when you're younger.
/r/seduction04/07/12 09:08 PM
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Don't do it that way. When you actually come across someone you think you know, there is a level of familiarity in your body language (smile structure and stance particularly) that is hard to fake but easy for people to pick up on. People are also much higher energy when greeting someone they think they know. Don't use that line unless it's actually someone you actually think you recognize or you'll be pegged as a fool right off the bat.
/r/seduction03/07/12 10:46 PM
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Unless you do something clever before you turn away, like play making stupid faces at her until she laughed, or a wink before you turn to leave the door open for a later approach (like a crowded train car). My personal favorite is to look past her for a couple seconds to focus on something just over her shoulder and then back to her. If you catch her body language wanting to turn to follow your gaze (especially if she resists it) that's a really damn good sign. All those work on guys too.
/r/seduction03/07/12 05:47 PM
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That's an excellent theory, great explanation. I think you're right.
/r/seduction02/07/12 05:39 PM
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Most women (I'm generalizing don't downvote me again) don't really appreciate strangers coming up to them and telling them they're beautiful because you're definitely not the first that day and won't be the last. There's a reason all of the guides and the pros tell you not to comment directly on the woman's appearance. You don't want to look like the same chumps as everyone else. There are much better personal challenges you can do that won't teach you a bad habit. Save the beauty compliments fo…
/r/seduction02/07/12 07:50 AM
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Men giving men advice: good Men giving women advice: good Women giving women advice: bad Women giving men advice: terrible I've always wondered why this is. Women are generally very intelligent with relationships and tend to be better at relationships than men, but they just can't vocalize why. It's really fascinating. edit: I don't know why this is getting downvoted so much, I just asked 8 of my female friends and they all agreed. Sorry that you're offended but it's generally true. edit2: I sho…
/r/seduction02/07/12 01:34 AM
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Practice more (and meditate if you want). Drinking alcohol is a crutch that will only hurt you in the long run. You will come to rely on it, and then you will never succeed outside of situations where you are drinking, such as at the grocery store, on a bus, or in a classroom. The correct mindset is that you enjoy being sober. You love who you are sober. You don't have any interest in being drunk, because you're awesome normally. And then sometimes, for fun, you'll drink—not because you need to,…
/r/seduction27/06/12 10:35 PM
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Everywhere that women are.
/r/seduction27/06/12 07:53 PM
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Don't know why, I guess I just feel like it might be rushing her or something. Pretending you know someone else's opinion is the least productive thing you can do in a relationship. Don't ever assume that you know someone else better than they do, because that makes you a self- righteous asshole. You will be told if they think you're going too fast or that they want to stop because it's wrong or that they want to wait. Even when they do tell you that, say "I understand" and keep going. Usually t…
/r/seduction27/06/12 07:40 PM
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First of all, you did really good, especially if you're relatively new. I think you have real potential and you're not far off from being awesome. There's one problem you repeated several times which I'll mention later. Here's some advice. I think you should get different friends for going out with, you want people who match your energy (doesn't have to be same amount, just compatible). Otherwise they're working against you, and you're making your own job harder. Plus boring friends make you see…
/r/seduction27/06/12 07:24 PM
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I approve of everything you said. I do 2-3+ dates per week (just had two separate ones today) and this is pretty solid. I would add that you should keep your profiles short, one-two paragraphs of 2-3 short sentences each. I like your clever bad pickup lines, I haven't tried that in a while. I'm getting bored with the choose your own adventure approaches and needed an idea for something new to try, thanks.
/r/seduction27/06/12 09:25 AM
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Women always say stuff like this, but the numbers back it up. You might just be the 3/10 that don't respond. What are you missing out on by ignoring people because they didn't pick out something about you to comment on (which all of the other guys do)?
/r/seduction27/06/12 09:22 AM
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If you're not having fun with it, get rid of her. Drama like that serves one of two purposes: to turn you on and make you want to overcome the stupid shit for a hate-fuck, or to warn you that you're entering Crazy Land: Population You and that you should turn the car around and zoom far away. You didn't "invest" anything, and you weren't "used" - spending time with people isn't an investment with some reward at the end. It's the reward itself. If you feel like you're only spending time with her …
/r/seduction26/06/12 05:15 PM
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Great work man. If someone knows why she wanted to do that then please please let me know, but either way I followed her a bit and then just diverted to go do my own thing. She was probably just losing interest. Most people (especially girls) have a hard time walking away from a social situation because they feel the peer pressure of it, so that was an escape for her. Sometimes people just need a break too, and you can get back to it later. Maybe she enjoyed making out with you but was really th…
/r/seduction26/06/12 05:02 PM
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