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| 13 | Why Both the Dems and the GOP Now Think Voters Prefer Female Candidates - Molly Ball | replicult | /r/MensRights | 26/04/13 04:00 PM |
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| 1 | We need to “teach men not to rape” 1) Implies only men rape (or 90%+). 2) Implies the default state of men is “do rape” until told not to. ~SchalaIf you think 'teach men not to rape' implies 'all men are rapists, but won't be if we put up a poster that tells them to stop', you're dramatically misunderstanding the arguments everyone else is making. For example, The small percentage of women who end up raping people don't do it because they are unaware that it's wrong. Absolutely! But they don't do it either solely because of some inborn urge. Societal factors play some sort of part, whether to create this urge, normalize it, etc. Therefore… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/13 07:57 PM |
| 1 | We need to “teach men not to rape” 1) Implies only men rape (or 90%+). 2) Implies the default state of men is “do rape” until told not to. ~SchalaTeaching men not to rape treats violent sexual assault as a behavior exclusive to men. Nope, as long as you teach women not to rape as well. Glad to see we're essentially on the same page though. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/13 05:51 PM |
| 1 | We need to “teach men not to rape” 1) Implies only men rape (or 90%+). 2) Implies the default state of men is “do rape” until told not to. ~SchalaI wouldn't consider a supposed 'external locus of control' to be a societal factor. Additionally, 'teaching not to rape' wouldn't normalize rape as innate to men if women were both taught not to rape and included as such in the messaging. It would make rapists of both genders abnormal rather than simply giving into supposed innate urges. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/13 05:41 PM |
| 1 | We need to “teach men not to rape” 1) Implies only men rape (or 90%+). 2) Implies the default state of men is “do rape” until told not to. ~SchalaIt isn't learned only by being raped and abused. There are certainly societal factors, whatever they may be, that additionaly normalize victimizing behavior. The only way to help people who are repeating their abuse by victimizing others is therapy. Not ridiculous posters that assume men just need to be told not to rape. This is completely true. 100%. And that's without going into the overly negative messaging consequences created by too-simple slogans, posters, and the like. However, I would co… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/13 05:30 PM |
| 1 | We need to “teach men not to rape” 1) Implies only men rape (or 90%+). 2) Implies the default state of men is “do rape” until told not to. ~SchalaWhy would a male-led society teach men to rape? No idea, but they think it does. I guess a male led society might teach men that their impulses can override other people's consent, is that their logic? There's a lot I agree with in that oft-posted genderratic piece, shaming men in particular is the worst possible outcome (making rape a 'normal' male behaviour is the horrifying consequence). It also goes without saying that having been victimized is a strong indicator of becoming a victim. Howeve… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/13 05:20 PM |
| 0 | We need to “teach men not to rape” 1) Implies only men rape (or 90%+). 2) Implies the default state of men is “do rape” until told not to. ~SchalaIt's about as logical as the idea that teaching someone not to do 'X' means 'X' must be inborn. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/13 05:10 PM |
| 1 | We need to “teach men not to rape” 1) Implies only men rape (or 90%+). 2) Implies the default state of men is “do rape” until told not to. ~SchalaIt's also faulty logic to imply that teaching men not to rape implies it is inherent. This is made doubly true by the fact that feminists, faultily, talk about patriarchal societies that socialize men to rape - clearly, not even the feminists believe rape is an inborn behavior in men! Therefore, teaching men not to rape, when done in a system that treats rape as a socialized behaviour rather than inborn (as it should be treated), is pro-male and anti-essentialist. Conversely, given the reality t… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/13 04:57 PM |
| 7 | Wise wordsYou sound like a radical feminist talking about men. Don't discard people's opinions so easily. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/13 04:40 PM |
| 0 | We need to “teach men not to rape” 1) Implies only men rape (or 90%+). 2) Implies the default state of men is “do rape” until told not to. ~SchalaThat's a shame. I hope I'm being clear - that's the approach I want to hear. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/13 04:20 PM |
| -4 | We need to “teach men not to rape” 1) Implies only men rape (or 90%+). 2) Implies the default state of men is “do rape” until told not to. ~SchalaNo. Point 1) is correct - it should never be implied that rapists are only men. 2) is incorrect. There is not a "default state" of men presumed by "teaching men not to rape". "Teaching men not to rape" implies that rape is a learned behaviour and so can be unlearned. It is an egalitarian, non-essentialist position when paired with "teach women not to rape, as well". The opposite - that teaching men not to rape creates problems or is impossible (ignore the messaging concerns for now - that it tre… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/13 03:51 PM |
| 10 | 18yo female arrested for relationship with minor. If the 18yo was a male, would there still be this giant push to free him? Equal rights = equal punishment under the lawI'm all for more equitable age of consent laws, but let's not kid ourselves that what happened here isn't ridiculously unjust. | /r/MensRights | 21/05/13 03:23 PM |
| -1 | Help I'm ill informed and in an argument with my girlfriend....if wealth and social status were not the way to get women's interest, men would all be working at Starbucks and McD's. I'm scared you're serious. | /r/MensRights | 04/05/13 04:43 AM |
| 0 | Showed up on my FB wall, is it appropriate to compliment random people?and if the appearance is sexually provocative the message is "I want attention". That's where you go wrong - this isn't always the case. Most people don't believe that 'sexually provocative' clothing logically leads to this. You can't expect society to conform to your personal standards just because you feel entitled to dress however you please. Right. And you can't impose your personal standard of meaning onto everyone's clothes. Sorry. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/13 04:18 AM |
| -1 | Showed up on my FB wall, is it appropriate to compliment random people?More bullshit that assumes all men want to fuck girls they find attractive. And you respond with more bullshit that washes away any possible reason for women to wear revealing clothing other than that they want attention from men? (Not to mention - men can hit on women wearing anything!) (Not to mention that even if a woman does want attention from men, that's not a magic invitation to randomly tell her anything!) | /r/MensRights | 03/05/13 03:28 AM |
| 1 | How social scientists fake research. (This field is the source of many anti-male tropes)It's a good field. It's prestigious and influential. It's basically woman-dominated. If there was more men in it, it would help negative perceptions of men. I don't want some sort of strictly mandated even representation. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/13 03:18 AM |
| 1 | How social scientists fake research. (This field is the source of many anti-male tropes)Did I say 'even'? Or did I just see a field I deeply respect and say that I wanted more boys and men (whom I care deeply about) in it? | /r/MensRights | 02/05/13 11:08 PM |
| 2 | Fatter, Wimpier, More Pathetic (Epic wake up call to western men from Roissy, MUST READ!)This is a joke. Men don't need an 'epic wake up call', they need to be freed from gender stereotypes and standards. | /r/MensRights | 02/05/13 07:50 PM |
| -6 | How social scientists fake research. (This field is the source of many anti-male tropes)Sorry. The social sciences are prestigious fields that contribute a ton to society. They're fairly female-dominated in spots. Instead of cutting them down, we should be trying to get boys and men into them. Don't change the content, but make them more accessible. | /r/MensRights | 02/05/13 07:40 PM |
| 3 | We seem to have forgotten that boys will be boys Our culture has lost its ability to channel the boisterousness of young menI don't care. Boys can do better - boys can equal the girls, and any movement is completely worthless unless this is true. | /r/MensRights | 02/05/13 06:57 PM |
| 2 | Feds Spend $1.5 Million to Study Why Lesbians Are FatThis seems like a good idea, it's certainly an area of high public health concern. | /r/MensRights | 02/05/13 03:15 AM |
| 2 | Introducing the Trad-femSounds awful. I don't care about how men have been rendered unable to meet the demands of "real manhood" ...that kind of thinking got us in this mess in the first place. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/13 09:17 PM |
| -10 | Ontario schools will offer gender studies, thanks to five young womenThis course should be mandatory. The most important thing any male can learn is "the concept of gender as something that’s built, not born". | /r/MensRights | 30/04/13 07:32 PM |
| 4 | BC Conservative candidate fired over a newspaper article in which he criticized single mothers for having children “without a man at their side.”I don't have a particular stance on the firing, but I deeply disagree with his opinion. | /r/MensRights | 26/04/13 08:55 PM |
| -3 | "I'm just going to put it out there: Women are better than men."Gonna be honest, this makes sense. I want a world where an article like this doesn't have to exist. We can do better, but only if they let us. | /r/MensRights | 26/04/13 03:07 PM |
| -18 | Let's talk about WHY TheRedPill exists, regardless of whether TRP itself is rightFeminism was never about female independence. If it were, it would not require men to cooperate or even notice. You're... alarmingly close to sounding like a radical feminist. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/04/13 04:54 AM |
| 5 | Showed up in my feed...what do you think?1 and 3 aren't troubling to me. 2 appears to describe men as less than fully human. | /r/MensRights | 25/04/13 10:44 PM |
| 0 | Feminist group hurls water, insults at archbishopSometimes making a point you believe in (and gaining media attention, etc, though I would note they don't seem to be getting much new support from this, so my point may be moot) is more important than behaving like an adult. | /r/MensRights | 25/04/13 07:36 PM |
| 0 | What has the Men's Rights Movement DONE?I don't even know how much it has to do to be worthwhile. To a lot of people its open existence is somewhat of a victory. And then of course you can build from there... | /r/MensRights | 25/04/13 07:25 PM |
| 0 | Wikipedia's Sexism Toward Female NovelistsThe separation into 'American novelists' (only men) and 'American female novelists' is clearly silly. However, I'd like to see them propose a solution as well. I'd be very happy with all gender identities under 'American novelists'. I doubt they'd like to see 'American male novelists' as their own list. | /r/MensRights | 25/04/13 04:03 PM |
| 1 | Yayyy patriarchy? Really?An excellent point. However, that doesn't change that feminists would blame negative outcomes for both men and women on a 'patriarchy' that doesn't stem wholly from the actions of men. To clarify: I'm just explaining their argument as I understand it, not agreeing with it fully. | /r/MensRights | 25/04/13 02:09 PM |
| -2 | Yayyy patriarchy? Really?Male privilege evaporates whenever a man has any vulnerabilities at all. If only! Regardless, they're not saying men benefit from this situation (though they are saying women are hurt more - I think). Additionally, they don't appear to be placing the blame for the patriarchy on individual males, but on a system constructed by both genders. | /r/MensRights | 25/04/13 03:58 AM |
| 1 | washington state bans gender-specific wordsIt certainly doesn't make things more unequal, so at worst we're even. In my opinion, it implies that men can be equal to women in a professional setting, which is a major step forward for how men can feel about themselves. Additionally, it's my belief that in areas such as schools and in counseling we need significantly more gender neutrality - I interpret this as a move towards that. | /r/MensRights | 24/04/13 05:17 PM |
| 2 | washington state bans gender-specific wordsRegardless on your thoughts on how stupid it is, how is this not a good move for equality? | /r/MensRights | 24/04/13 05:03 PM |
| 2 | washington state bans gender-specific wordsIt might not seem it, but in my opinion this is a victory for equality. Though I am a little curious as to what they're doing with 'midwife'... | /r/MensRights | 24/04/13 03:17 AM |
| 1 | Am I wrong in thinking that this is a bit out of line?I kind of like this. I'd prefer something more genderless than a 'neo-male' term targeting only males, though. | /r/MensRights | 22/04/13 06:22 PM |
| 2 | Honor killing by two mothers (repost /r/WorldNews) why are the moms stuck doing the killing? They were both widows.Cases like this indirectly show that men can be fully human and that they can be equal to women - this shows it's not always their fault. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/13 10:09 PM |
| 1 | They will be androgynous followers of a new and superior model of female leadership.Really? Either way the MRA movement is silly if it doesn't want to be androgynous followers of a new and superior model of androgynous leadership. Too bad this quote went one word too far and stayed at the level of same-old gender essentialism. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/13 04:16 PM |
| 1 | The Telegraph: The Woman's Prize for Fiction is a sexist embarrassment. Let's abolish it.I'd rather than than a women's-only prize. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/13 09:03 PM |
| 3 | Why are men disrespected and dismissed and ridiculed if we wear makeup?If the Men's Rights movement is about getting men to be 'manly', it's worthless. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/13 01:06 PM |
| 2 | Teachers union supports compulsory boy-humiliation class: "As educators, teachers are in an ideal position to challenge sexism and gender stereotyping, helping girls and young women to feel confidentLook at schools now. Girls learn teamwork, critical thinking, and communication. Boys are stigmatized. Looks to me like they're already pretty differentiated! | /r/MensRights | 16/04/13 01:38 AM |
| 1 | Teachers union supports compulsory boy-humiliation class: "As educators, teachers are in an ideal position to challenge sexism and gender stereotyping, helping girls and young women to feel confidentOf course not. But the potential is there. However, separate but equal can never really be equal - can you imagine how the differing curriculum and tones between all-boys and all-girls schools would leave the boys out to dry? | /r/MensRights | 16/04/13 12:53 AM |
| 1 | Teachers union supports compulsory boy-humiliation class: "As educators, teachers are in an ideal position to challenge sexism and gender stereotyping, helping girls and young women to feel confidentI'd prefer equality to same-sex schooling, thanks. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/13 12:31 AM |
| -1 | Am I the only one that gets pissed when I hear/read the term "cis"?I was being facetious. I think you should look into radical feminism, you and them have the same position on transpeople. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/13 11:50 AM |
| 1 | Am I the only one that gets pissed when I hear/read the term "cis"?Sorry, I didn't realize this was /r/OnlySomeMensRights | /r/MensRights | 12/04/13 01:58 AM |
| -2 | Am I the only one that gets pissed when I hear/read the term "cis"?When we talk about an man, it is assumed that we are talking about an man who identifies as a man. Correct. However, trans men as well are men who identify as men. Your lack of understanding regarding this very simple concept makes you look pretty bad. Sorry. I'll try to make myself clearer and better grasp your understanding of the concept. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/13 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Am I the only one that gets pissed when I hear/read the term "cis"?I considered 'identity', but being cis is not my whole identity. Certainly didn't mean to imply that it was somehow a disease or the like. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/13 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Am I the only one that gets pissed when I hear/read the term "cis"?'Cis' is not unnecessary. The condition exists and from time to time needs to be referred to. To use 'men' as if it speaks only for cis men is inaccurate. Whether or not 'cis' 'only exists as a form of political correctness' doesn't change this. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/13 06:56 PM |
| 0 | Am I the only one that gets pissed when I hear/read the term "cis"?Trans men = men Cis men = men You can't deny this, both are subcategories of 'men'. Just because the term may additionally protect people's feelings doesn't make it useless or inaccurate. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/13 06:46 PM |
| 0 | Am I the only one that gets pissed when I hear/read the term "cis"?I mean, there does have to be a label - we exist. A label similar to 'cis' has to exist to identifying cis people when/if needed. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/13 06:35 PM |
| 1 | Am I the only one that gets pissed when I hear/read the term "cis"?In most situations those work, but how would you distinguish between cis and trans people? (and yes, there are many situations where that distinction does have to be legitimately discussed, ie issues of transition, etc) | /r/MensRights | 11/04/13 06:24 PM |
| 7 | Am I the only one that gets pissed when I hear/read the term "cis"?That is not the meaning of the word, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender - it's essentially a word for people who aren't transgendered. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/13 06:13 PM |
| -2 | Am I the only one that gets pissed when I hear/read the term "cis"?It might be insulting, but I don't know of any better words to use. Is there a term you'd prefer to describe someone who is not transgendered, who does not experience gender dysphoria, etc? | /r/MensRights | 11/04/13 06:03 PM |
| 1 | PatriarchyTo be fair, feminists use a much broader definition than that. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/13 03:18 PM |
| 2 | Victoria's new women's minister says it would be naive to think equal gender representation could be achieved in Parliament because women are generally ''nurturers'' and politics is demanding.Good. What she said was blatantly insulting and essentialist. (Let's not forget the additional insulting implication that men aren't good enough 'nurturers'!) | /r/MensRights | 07/04/13 09:05 PM |
| 3 | I was wondering, why can women hold hands and show affection in public, but for men it's taboo?Do you mean 2 women can hold hands, but not 2 men? | /r/MensRights | 07/04/13 12:36 AM |
| 3 | Totally worth it.Transmen are men who think they're men? How would the men who are not transgendered describe themselves? | /r/MensRights | 07/04/13 12:26 AM |
| -28 | Totally worth it.Seriously? I hope you're not cisgendered (though that'd be my guess), because otherwise I have no idea how you'd describe yourself. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/13 04:44 PM |
| -28 | Totally worth it.I hope that you weren't trying to imply 'cisgender' in particular isn't a valid or relevant term. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/13 04:18 PM |
| 1 | Do MRA's want men to be treated as a protected minority?I'd complain like a little kid, because 'taking it like a man' is where our problems begin. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/13 04:08 PM |
| 2 | UT Arlington Student Raped by Girlfriend, Ridiculed by ContemporariesKeep in mind they're not 'white knighting' on behalf of women in this situation. They're attacking other men while women are being supportive. | /r/MensRights | 05/04/13 09:25 PM |
| 5 | UT Arlington Student Raped by Girlfriend, Ridiculed by ContemporariesEither way, here the women are tending to be the ones admitting men can be rape victims. | /r/MensRights | 05/04/13 06:27 PM |
| 9 | UT Arlington Student Raped by Girlfriend, Ridiculed by ContemporariesThe hell are you talking about here? Are the men who realize that this is rape 'manginas'? Certainly the guys making jokes about it aren't! | /r/MensRights | 05/04/13 03:44 PM |
| 0 | Barbara Kay: Feminist dogma values rocket science over happy homeWell, everyone asks all those questions you've listed. I simply haven't came to well-reasoned* answers. And may not, for a long time. *Well-reasoned /= correct | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 07:38 PM |
| 1 | Barbara Kay: Feminist dogma values rocket science over happy homeRight, ok, I think I'm arguing a different point than you. I'm not saying the word could somehow signify something different, or that the meaning changes. Simply that it's necessary to take into account contextual factors in addition to a strict meaning. Otherwise any understanding of meaning is incomplete. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Barbara Kay: Feminist dogma values rocket science over happy homeOK then...follow the analogy through. Where does your thinking ultimately lead? (As if you could actually articulate it, even if you could think through the ramifications of something, which OBVIOUSLY you have difficulty with...) I'm genuinely not sure. Within the analogy, people take offense to being called 'fat'. While maybe this shouldn't happen (as in, you might not want to call people fat), within my analogy it's impossible to stop all offense. In the world as I see it, it's futile to attem… | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 06:46 PM |
| 1 | Barbara Kay: Feminist dogma values rocket science over happy homeThat's because your mind is made of mush. Calling a guy 'fat', since the meaning of the word 'fat' is universal (ie, 'overweight', 'unattractive', etc.), yet the APPLICATION of the word is subjective, as is the INTERPRETATION of that meaning, I fail to see what you're driving at. You get what I'm going at, seeing as you agree with me. OK, I really don't. You're a member of the Thought Police, and feel that people shouldn't be able to cause offense to others. The fact that the offended one might … | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Barbara Kay: Feminist dogma values rocket science over happy homeJesus...why don't you just come stright out and admit you're a Gay activist and you hate straight and/or Religious people, instead of all this semantic dodging? I thought I said I was a leftist in favour of SSM? Was that ever in question? No, it's not. The word 'fat' has the exact same meaning from one person to another...the level of fatness one requires to be called 'fat' is subjective, the meaning of the word is NOT subjective. Everyone agrees what fat MEANS, they just might disagree on who T… | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 05:19 PM |
| 1 | Barbara Kay: Feminist dogma values rocket science over happy homeWhy would you feel shitty? I'm venture to guess that the person who called you 'fat' and the culture you got called 'fat' in (and maybe even you) attach a negative connotation to you being 'fat'. Even though you're objectively fat by any definition of this word. It's clear that even though the word might have a strictly neutral meaning, to ignore the context in which it is said and interpreted is to miss much of the meaning. Now think about 'normal'. It's not a stretch to say that our culture co… | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 04:50 PM |
| 1 | Barbara Kay: Feminist dogma values rocket science over happy homeRun with me on this thought example. We live in a world exactly like our own, but you are morbidly obese. You're walking down the street and a guy looks at you and yells 'look at this fat guy'! How do you feel about this situation? | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Barbara Kay: Feminist dogma values rocket science over happy homeYes, people do agree on the meaning of symbols. Do you somehow think that this doesn't mean there can be ambiguity or confusion? Again, I deal with how real people use real symbols and words and then other real people interpret them, leading to real consequences. You live in a world of magic and philosophy where somehow you can shoot pure meaning to the brain of another (joke!). But really, what you're describing is fundamentally incomplete and ignores how people actually experience and interpre… | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 04:28 PM |
| 1 | Barbara Kay: Feminist dogma values rocket science over happy homeI see, so really, they ALL have to be forced at the same time do they? Nope. I meant that as giving individual churches the freedom to perform legally recognized gay marriages. To clarify my stance on language and understanding, my view is this: Someone says something -> another interprets it. A lot can happen along the way! People can interpret it wrongly. People might use words that don't completely clarify what they mean, etc, etc. Your view, comically, appears to be this: Someone speaks lang… | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 04:18 PM |
| -6 | On the sponsored link to a "men are better than women" troll articleAbsolutely not from SRS, just an asshole misogynist. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 03:05 PM |
| 1 | Barbara Kay: Feminist dogma values rocket science over happy homeMen should. There's nothing wrong with being overly sensitive. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 02:54 PM |
| 1 | Have you considered the dominance enjoyed by males across Western society throughout history? Why is it that men disproportionately achieve higher status? Does this subreddit think that the maternal hIs this just a matter of different preferences though? Clearly 'logical, reasonable, ethical, honourable, noble', etc - are most certainly not the only worthwhile qualities in a person! And it goes without saying that you've essentially bought into my framing - you seem to believe these factors have been socialized into one gender and not another. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 01:15 PM |
| 0 | Barbara Kay: Feminist dogma values rocket science over happy homeThere's that Post Modernism again... Actually, yes we certainly do agree to definitions of words, because if we didn't, it would be impossible to communicate. In fact, the whole POINT to PostModern approaches to things like 'definitions' is expressly to impede communication. Here is where I know that you don't live in the real world. People don't agree on definitions. If we're talking about 'normal', you yourself attempted to define it strictly as 'average', which we both know is incomplete. I l… | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 05:01 AM |
| 0 | Barbara Kay: Feminist dogma values rocket science over happy homeAbsolutely. It seems the person in question was somewhat of a public figure however. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 01:10 AM |
| 0 | Barbara Kay: Feminist dogma values rocket science over happy homeI think in our current society highlighting their family signifies something different for men and women. ...I'm also going to assume it doesn't lead with a reference to his cooking. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 01:07 AM |
| 1 | Fucking stupid. Someone needs to rescind their funding.Men need to become better negotiators, collaborators, etc. I basically agree with the premise, but feel it offers no solutions to fix this disparity that hurts men. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 12:06 AM |
| 0 | Is it possible to be an MRA and a liberal at the same time?I think equality is the essence of liberalism and leftism. You'd think MRAs would be eating it up, but no... | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 12:04 AM |
| 1 | Barbara Kay: Feminist dogma values rocket science over happy homeWhat? "Normal" is a definition. It's a word, created by people, to explain a certain thing. We don't all agree with one particular definition. Therefore, you look at what some people mean when they say 'normal'. It seems to me that some people use 'normal' to argue for the superiority of a particular family structure, rather than simply referring to something particularly common. This hurts people. That's my argument. But yes, I'll be the first to say that I'm just a leftist drone programmed by … | /r/MensRights | 02/04/13 10:30 PM |
| 1 | Barbara Kay: Feminist dogma values rocket science over happy homeI'm openly liberal/leftist, sorry if that wasn't clear. You're completely right. I'm not a bullshit philosopher though, there's no intellectual background behind what I'm saying. Just actual effects on actual people, not dictionary definitions and 'maxims'. My argument isn't a coherent thought, either. You're on solid ground here. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/13 10:19 PM |
| 0 | Barbara Kay: Feminist dogma values rocket science over happy homeNo, I don't have a high view of things. You live by theories and maxims and I look at the effects of things. I noted that the label 'normal' (however it is defined - note that there are, of course, competing definitions) is used as a wedge to hurt families that do not fall within it. This is real effects on real people. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/13 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Have you considered the dominance enjoyed by males across Western society throughout history? Why is it that men disproportionately achieve higher status? Does this subreddit think that the maternal hI mean, yeah. That's one way to take it. I do believe my feelings are valid. Women aren't the only people whose feelings must be respected - men like myself as well. But yes, I do feel that if a gender is socialized to be overly dominant and to seek a particular kind of high achievement, it explains the other gender's lack of high achievement to some degree. I hope you don't dispute this. I feel socializing young boys in a more egalitarian manner is a completely reasonable response. I don't feel… | /r/MensRights | 02/04/13 10:09 PM |
| -7 | Are you afraid of / constantly thinking about being mistaken for a rapist? (xpost r/askmen)If you said 'fancied' I don't blame her. That sounds really creepy. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/13 10:05 PM |
| 1 | Have you considered the dominance enjoyed by males across Western society throughout history? Why is it that men disproportionately achieve higher status? Does this subreddit think that the maternal hIt is daft. I stand by it though. I do believe it is possible to socialize a gender too much towards achievement or dominance, creating unfair and harmful inequalities. I feel like your argument leans too much on 'less achievement' being inherently bad - which it essentially is due to my phrasing - but when phrased as 'less dominant' or 'different kinds of achievement', I feel it makes more sense. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/13 09:57 PM |
| 2 | My school did something that made me proud of it last week.That sounds great. My school at one point offered an issues in masculinity course, but it was only open to 4th year Sociology majors (and so I, among presumably many other people who were interested, couldn't take it). We need to lower our standards and become more inclusive. Classes such as this need to be available to more. Personally, I'd also like to see motherhood discussed in the class. Fuck gender segregation. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/13 09:54 PM |
| -1 | Barbara Kay: Feminist dogma values rocket science over happy homeI'm not trying to be post-modern. You're saying 'normal' families as being 'the average'. Perhaps the 'most common' family structure. However, I live in the real world, unlike you - you use theories, I look at results. You've used the label 'normal', I look at how that label actually affects real people. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/13 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Have you considered the dominance enjoyed by males across Western society throughout history? Why is it that men disproportionately achieve higher status? Does this subreddit think that the maternal hIt makes a lot of sense, really. It's a stock feminist example (and seems a little slight in this context), but we've all seen the difference between the toys aimed at young boys (aimed at construction, science, creative building, etc) and at young girls (homemaking, perhaps arts). It certainly seems one gender is socialized for high achievement and one for less achievement. If you socialize one group towards less achievement, another group will achieve more. Total 'achievement' remains the same… | /r/MensRights | 02/04/13 09:40 PM |
| 0 | Barbara Kay: Feminist dogma values rocket science over happy homeI'm not particularly educated, but I don't make a claim to uniqueness or learning. I live in the real world, where instead of using labels I look at the actual impact of those labels and how they are used. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/13 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Have you considered the dominance enjoyed by males across Western society throughout history? Why is it that men disproportionately achieve higher status? Does this subreddit think that the maternal hThat makes a lot of sense. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/13 09:29 PM |
| 0 | Barbara Kay: Feminist dogma values rocket science over happy homeI think that in our current society leading with a woman scientist's cooking has a far more dismissive tone than leading with a man's. And if you want to believe 'normal family' has any real meaning, feel free, but I live in the real world. I realize you're likely meaning the two-parent, nuclear, heterosexual family - which of course is a valid family situation. But it's never been always the only structure, and even families who ostensibly fall under that category may deviate. I also realize th… | /r/MensRights | 02/04/13 09:28 PM |
| 2 | “19% of prime time television characters are non-human while only 17% are women” -There are more “non-humans” on TV than women. Talk about unequal gender representation in the media.Just because it's 'failure' rather than hate or suffering doesn't mean it's not a valid problem. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/13 05:37 PM |
| 0 | Barbara Kay: Feminist dogma values rocket science over happy homeNot true. Here's why. a) There's no such thing as a 'normal' family already. It's an ideal that has never existed in a static state. To say that they won't be satisfied until it doesn't exist is simply comical. I won't be satisfied until wizards don't exist. b) Many feminists absolutely fetishize motherhood, and many are by no means anti-wife either. They just want this distinguished professional to be described in similar ways to a male in her position. That's an argument I fully agree with. c)… | /r/MensRights | 02/04/13 05:33 PM |
| 4 | Schools need kids who know how to be quiet and sit still, because that’s the direction schools are going in — a system inherently gamed to favor girls.Sort of. But as I see it, biological determinists take it too far, decide boys and girls should be raised and socialized in dramatically different ways, and then have no idea how to handle this. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/13 05:29 PM |
| -11 | Columnist: If Kevin Ware's Teammates Were Women, They Would Have Rushed To His SideSeriously. Men need to be more overtly caring. It's a good thing. Then after that, we won't need an article like this. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/13 05:27 PM |
| -5 | Columnist: If Kevin Ware's Teammates Were Women, They Would Have Rushed To His SideGirls, so silly. Am I right guys? | /r/MensRights | 02/04/13 05:27 PM |
| 2 | Have you considered the dominance enjoyed by males across Western society throughout history? Why is it that men disproportionately achieve higher status? Does this subreddit think that the maternal hI don't know. Perhaps men are socialized to over-achieve? I feel the 'old boy's club'/societal prejudice thing is relevant, but is certainly lessening. They almost certainly have drive and ambition. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/13 05:17 PM |
| 1 | Have you considered the dominance enjoyed by males across Western society throughout history? Why is it that men disproportionately achieve higher status? Does this subreddit think that the maternal hI don't value diversity as an end in itself and I don't think the added perspective of more women at the top is inherently valuable (I believe in gender equality - men could add that perspective). I value women. It's clear they're equal to men. It's clear that being at the top is valuable, and that for some reason women who could and should reach that point aren't getting there. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/13 05:13 PM |
| -3 | Have you considered the dominance enjoyed by males across Western society throughout history? Why is it that men disproportionately achieve higher status? Does this subreddit think that the maternal hI basically agree with you. I don't care about history but it's pretty clear that the majority of high-status people are male. We need to change that. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/13 05:09 PM |
| -10 | Feminist says "man flu" (a term used to mock males who admit symptoms) is actually misogyny, because women (who are allowed to have symptoms) look weak by comparison.I contributed a bit more than 'well in sports men and women are't equal, heh' | /r/MensRights | 02/04/13 05:02 PM |
| -15 | Feminist says "man flu" (a term used to mock males who admit symptoms) is actually misogyny, because women (who are allowed to have symptoms) look weak by comparison.Who cares? | /r/MensRights | 02/04/13 04:15 PM |
| 3 | washington post blames mass shooting on white men - despite the factsMass shooters aren't overwhelmingly white men. Whites are not particularly over-represented in their ranks. They are overwhelmingly male. Men need to find the factors that lead to mass shootings and reduce them. | /r/MensRights | 31/03/13 06:32 PM |
| -1 | Feminist researcher finds 95% of all top math students have always been male and just 5% female, concludes men and women have equal math ability.Not a troll, just a man who believes men can be equal and worthwhile. | /r/MensRights | 31/03/13 05:23 AM |
| 1 | Just saw this article..."White men have much to discuss about mass shootings".I think you're right. We value something that leads some men to be violent. | /r/MensRights | 31/03/13 05:22 AM |
| -5 | Feminist researcher finds 95% of all top math students have always been male and just 5% female, concludes men and women have equal math ability.Your take on 'interesting' is my 'hellish'. I don't want to live in your world. | /r/MensRights | 30/03/13 08:27 PM |
| 3 | Just saw this article..."White men have much to discuss about mass shootings".If you're interested in gaming the statistics instead of changing things for the better, sure. | /r/MensRights | 30/03/13 08:23 PM |
| -1 | Just saw this article..."White men have much to discuss about mass shootings".From a quick glance at the mass shootings, it's tough to say this is a particularly white problem. However, mass shooters are overwhelmingly male. I'd like to see discussion on how we can curb this number. | /r/MensRights | 30/03/13 07:54 PM |
| -3 | Why is the exclusionary "PyLadies" group allowed to hold ladies only meetings at PyCon. This seems to violate the Code of Conduct against exclusionary speech.why so angry? They look at a group like this and think "I want this too". I'm not sure where I stand on that. It might seem like "oh no, these straight white cis men want everything, even women's spaces and whatnot", but that's almost too simple. They just want the same. I think at the core, these people are good people who just want the same for themselves. | /r/MensRights | 30/03/13 05:04 PM |
| -2 | Had to share this. He Can Do It. (x-post from /r/feminism)Awesome, good to see men subverting an iconic feminist image by taking over traditionally female roles. | /r/MensRights | 26/03/13 02:24 PM |
| -1 | Female board members better than men on complex issuesThe biggest problem with this is that afterwards nobody's asking how we can help men reach this level of decision-making sophistication. It disgusts me that nobody wants to help men achieve this. | /r/MensRights | 25/03/13 11:21 PM |
| 1 | Suicide now the biggest killer of young men in BritainIt's a shame. Cis people need that word to better understand themselves. However I disagree - I don't see overly cruel anti-cis people to be the primary users of that word. They're a very vocal minority. I'm scared when cis people start killing themselves because of the guilt and hate they feel the anti-cis people won't care. | /r/MensRights | 25/03/13 06:26 PM |
| 2 | Manchester’s Unsung Heroes: Rape victim who set up male-only support group vows to never turn anyone awaymale-only support group never turn anyone away ...which is it? | /r/MensRights | 25/03/13 05:21 PM |
| 3 | Suicide now the biggest killer of young men in BritainIt's not inherently a slur. If someone who doesn't like cis people uses it to insult cis people, I guess it would be a slur. | /r/MensRights | 25/03/13 05:18 PM |
| 2 | Suicide now the biggest killer of young men in BritainIt's a very real thing. Speaking as a cis person, it's strange to think that I grew up not knowing a word that describes my own identity's relationship to my body. | /r/MensRights | 25/03/13 05:17 PM |
| -2 | This Was on CNN's Front Page...because he was raised to have that common sense (which includes not raping people). Thanks, mr. semantics. | /r/MensRights | 25/03/13 04:03 AM |
| -1 | This Was on CNN's Front PageNo, and part of that is because you were raised right. | /r/MensRights | 24/03/13 08:24 PM |
| 6 | This Was on CNN's Front PageThat's not a noble reason. It implies men aren't beautiful, but should also be judged by their looks. It's awful. to clarify, I'm religious and anti-MRA. | /r/MensRights | 24/03/13 08:20 PM |
| -1 | Yes, we SHOULD teach boys and men not to rape.This article speaks the truth. Men aren't worthless as some might have you believe. They can be equal to women and express this by not raping as much. | /r/MensRights | 19/03/13 04:16 PM |
| -5 | Rape accused kills self after ‘victim’ admits false chargesNot really, no? | /r/MensRights | 19/03/13 04:13 PM |
| 1 | Seriously? Found this headline on Salon.com ...I'm going to be honest, it's pretty clear that yes, men are more violent. Any solutions? | /r/MensRights | 31/07/12 03:17 AM |
| 2 | An Open Letter to the r/MensRights Community from a "Radical" Feminist (please read, not a "wow you guys are awful and bad!!!)It is my sincerest belief that breaking down gender constructs, if done correctly, would reduce boy shaming and man shaming. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/12 04:28 AM |
| 3 | An Open Letter to the r/MensRights Community from a "Radical" Feminist (please read, not a "wow you guys are awful and bad!!!)I think legal equality would be largely pointless without the dismantlement of gender. It's possible, but I can't really see what good it would do. For a more 'men's right-y' example, when determining custody, child support, parental rights, the like, a legal recognition of equality would be helpful - but if judges and others don't believe it, that is recognise men as equal parents - it won't mean nearly as much. To believe it would be to break down gender roles in that area. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/12 04:01 AM |
| 5 | An Open Letter to the r/MensRights Community from a "Radical" Feminist (please read, not a "wow you guys are awful and bad!!!)I don't consider myself a men's rights activist, so of course I don't align. And because I am against gender essentialism I would never believe that my maleness would give me any kind of an insight into the movement. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/12 03:51 AM |
| 7 | An Open Letter to the r/MensRights Community from a "Radical" Feminist (please read, not a "wow you guys are awful and bad!!!)Ridiculous. I'm a man and my number one priority is tearing down gender roles and norms. Without those, we can really get started on equality and not aim for 'different but equal'. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/12 03:17 AM |
| 17 | An Open Letter to the r/MensRights Community from a "Radical" Feminist (please read, not a "wow you guys are awful and bad!!!)That seems right though. I certainly wouldn't consider male rapists 'sane' in any flattering definition of the word. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/12 03:16 AM |
| -17 | An Open Letter to the r/MensRights Community from a "Radical" Feminist (please read, not a "wow you guys are awful and bad!!!)It's a really shit metaphor, though. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/12 03:14 AM |
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