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| 26 | CMV: There is nothing that women are, say, or do that makes a man more or less masculine. | CMV | resurrect_john_brown | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/23 11:47 PM |
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| 5 | Red pill is the same than agressive feminismI believe it, because 50% of white women voted for Trump, and 50% of them - I shit you not - consider themselves feminists. Because the right side of the political spectrum is motivated by fear, cruelty, and resentment, I can absolutely see those women using "feminism" to be total assholes to men. Additionally, we all need to remember that there is a percentage of all of this discourse originates with bad actors - the same thing that has been going on since the 2016 election. Some of this shit i… | /r/ExRedPill | 04/09/23 02:27 PM |
| 20 | Red pill is the same than agressive feminismRed pill garbage makes a lot more sense if you flip everything they say upside down, because 99% of it is projection. They're just accusing women of doing/thinking/being the things that they hate about themselves and are holding them back. Once you start turning everything around, it all fits together. | /r/ExRedPill | 04/09/23 02:20 PM |
| 7 | Red pill is the same than agressive feminismWe may be relatively similar regarding the degree of anger and/or dissatisfaction we express, but that's about it. Feminism developed out of oppression and has been organized around the fight for the legal, personal, and human rights that were long denied women. Red pill ideology is based on the defense of male privilege, which is rightfully being eroded by women's progress, and doesn't advocate for men as much as it blames women. Feminism has established fields of academic and scientific resear… | /r/ExRedPill | 04/09/23 02:15 PM |
| 3 | Do you think it’s really a terrible thing for women to leave unhappy relationships/marriages?Why should his happiness matter more than yours? | /r/RedPillWomen | 03/09/23 11:36 AM |
| 1 | If men really are the priviledged sex, please give me some examples..No, please - I'm enjoying this glimpse into the excuses you make for yourselves. Tell me: do you ever take responsibility for anything you do? Maybe that's just another male privilege - the luxury of telling yourself that everything is women's fault. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/23 10:19 AM |
| -8 | If men really are the priviledged sex, please give me some examples..Actually they did. Most of the meat prehistoric peoples ate came from small game, which was usually hunted by women and children as they wouldn't be required to stray far. Men hunting mammoths wasn't a regular thing because it was more arduous and yielded a shitload of meat. Sorry to burst your bubble. Maybe one day you guys will actually start educating yourselves before you start talking out your ass. I recommend The Dawn of Everything by David Graeber and David Wengrow, and The Chalice and th… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/23 10:15 AM |
| -8 | If men really are the priviledged sex, please give me some examples..I have. And? | /r/MensRights | 02/09/23 08:41 AM |
| -7 | If men really are the priviledged sex, please give me some examples..Why would I bother? It's not like you're capable of self-reflection, changing your mind, admitting you're wrong, or conceding even a single point in a debate. You guys all have such delicate, spun-sugar egos that you can't tolerate being told anything you don't want to hear, and I don't have a fainting couch nearby for you to swoon onto. And I'm not a troll, I'm just a woman who knows what the fuck I'm talking about and who, having spent a few years explaining this stuff to men like you, doesn't… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/23 08:23 AM |
| -4 | If men really are the priviledged sex, please give me some examples..Indeed. Feel free to continue, I'm here for this. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/23 07:17 AM |
| -5 | If men really are the priviledged sex, please give me some examples..” Men have just as many problems as women. Never said they didn't. But sorry - don't have much sympathy for men regarding porn. I had no idea how deeply fucked up you guys really were until the Internet showed me what you're really into when you think no one is watching. When I was younger I thought "men hate women" was feminist hyperbole, but it's not. I don't see men the same anymore, and it sucks. I don't understand how they can be so fucking hateful and disgusting. Every time rape comes up, … | /r/MensRights | 02/09/23 07:01 AM |
| -16 | If men really are the priviledged sex, please give me some examples..Please continue, I am all ears for this. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/23 06:00 AM |
| 1 | What right(s) men have that women doesn't have (in the west)?Boo-fucking-hoo. I'm out of Kleenex, unfortunately - maybe a maxi pad would work to absorb all those tears. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/23 05:55 AM |
| -23 | If men really are the priviledged sex, please give me some examples..Did I say pathetic last time? If not, you're pathetic. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/23 05:52 AM |
| -34 | If men really are the priviledged sex, please give me some examples..Women's suffering makes billions of dollars yearly - it's called the porn industry. Every year, hundreds of thousands of women are trafficked into sexual slavery where they have their rapes recorded and put on the Internet so that men can be spared the inconvenience of masturbating to their imaginations. So however much men are suffering, at least women aren't fucking masturbating while they fucking watch their humiliation. Pathetic. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/23 05:33 AM |
| -19 | If men really are the priviledged sex, please give me some examples..Not a "feminist idea," historical fact. Ideas about masculinity and femininity have been continuously changing throughout history. The gender norms with which we are familiar originate in the Victorian era, only 200 years ago. Has it ever occurred to you that men have zero chance of resolving their gendered injustices if you insist on believing this inaccurate bullshit? You're making the exact same mistake that men have been making since the mid-1800s, and it's going to do the exact same thing i… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/23 05:23 AM |
| -14 | If men really are the priviledged sex, please give me some examples..So privileged that you actually asked this fucking question. Pathetic. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/23 04:59 AM |
| 1 | What right(s) men have that women doesn't have (in the west)?Now, how do you define it and how can I falsify it? Because it's a waste of my time to bother explaining anything to intellectually dishonest people. Since you can apparently read my mind, already confident that you can falsify whatever I say, why do you even have to ask me at all? I can give you some book titles if you're interested. I also find strange how a powerless group akin to slaves can change so much just by "agitating" things Read up on the Haitian and French Revolutions for how seemin… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/23 02:00 AM |
| 1 | What right(s) men have that women doesn't have (in the west)?english is not my primary languague so I glossed over that "nominally" word. Ah - that's the source of the misunderstanding. No worries ☺️ Okay, hang on - you're oversimplifying things. Men are not all the same, right? They are of all different classes, races, sexual orientations, acculturation, lived experiences, etc, so that all men do not have the same amount of power and privilege as individuals. My little brother does not benefit from the patriarchy to the same degree as Jeff Bezos. However… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/23 01:22 AM |
| 1 | What right(s) men have that women doesn't have (in the west)?Also, where did you learn about patriarchy? I'm asking for my own curiosity, not being confrontational. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/23 12:36 AM |
| 1 | What right(s) men have that women doesn't have (in the west)?"...nominally holding most of the power," meaning "it's not that simple." It's not a logical fallacy. What do you find contradictory in specific? | /r/MensRights | 02/09/23 12:35 AM |
| 1 | Do older men really find younger women attractive?Would most have sex with them if they had the opportunity ?I don't know how to interpret your snark. Explain? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/23 12:23 AM |
| 4 | If a woman has difficulty coming to orgasm, that's not my problemI honestly have a sprinkle of respect for you for at least being honest about your self-centeredness and contempt for women. While I think your opinion is sad and it makes me feel embarrassed on your behalf that you'd say something so ignorant in public, at the very least you're not a coward on top of all that. I also appreciate your inadvertent confirmation that my decision to never bother sleeping with another man ever again is the smartest way to proceed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/23 03:41 PM |
| 1 | If women are happier when single. Why do they push for commitment?Because when you find that beautiful unicorn man, you want to hang on to him!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/23 12:06 PM |
| 1 | Do older men really find younger women attractive?Would most have sex with them if they had the opportunity ?What - is that Turkish or something? Thought I was the one with the shriveled old brain, lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/23 12:05 PM |
| 1 | Do older men really find younger women attractive?Would most have sex with them if they had the opportunity ?Uh, sure. До свидания, тролль | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/23 07:12 AM |
| -2 | What right(s) men have that women doesn't have (in the west)?I'm not gonna write a doctoral thesis to correct all of this. I've done the work; not gonna do yours for you. Go read a book and stop wasting women's time with the same kind of tired nonsense that men have been saying for literally two thousand years. Edit: In 195 BCE, Rome repealed the Oppian Law , which was an effort to reign in the Empire's spending by limiting women to wearing no more than a half ounce of gold and plain, single colored tunics. To protest the repeal, the famed Roman Senator C… | /r/MensRights | 01/09/23 06:50 AM |
| -2 | What right(s) men have that women doesn't have (in the west)?I'm for real. History is your friend. | /r/MensRights | 01/09/23 06:32 AM |
| -1 | Do women truly mature faster? If so, is there some catch to it when compared to men?"Boys will be boys" keeps the bar set lower for boys when it comes to what is considered acceptable behavior, how much responsibility they "can handle," and is generally a prefab excuse that winds up allowing boys to remain immature. | /r/MensRights | 01/09/23 05:52 AM |
| 4 | Do women truly mature faster? If so, is there some catch to it when compared to men?Agreed. Another factor is the whole "boys will be boys" nonsense that keeps the bar set lower for boys when it comes to acceptable behavior, expectations around responsibility, etc. They get a prefab excuse. | /r/MensRights | 01/09/23 05:49 AM |
| -5 | What right(s) men have that women doesn't have (in the west)?Once again, your ignorance doesn't invalidate opposing arguments. | /r/MensRights | 01/09/23 02:00 AM |
| 0 | What right(s) men have that women doesn't have (in the west)?Shit - I forgot an important thing: The situations that you listed may appear to favor women, but that's partly because almost none of that stuff was discussed in public before 2nd wave feminism in the 60s/70s. So the only time we've ever heard about that shit has been when women have been agitating about it - and if they succeed in getting legislation passed about an issue that only they have been talking about, it does give the appearance of bias or privilege. But it's basically a mirage. Also… | /r/MensRights | 01/09/23 01:25 AM |
| -1 | What right(s) men have that women doesn't have (in the west)?I feel you - this shit is super complex and sounds contradictory. I'll explain my two cents worth and hopefully make some kind of sense: Patriarchy isn't as simple as "all men oppress all women." For one thing, patriarchy couldn't have been established without SOME degree of cooperation from women, so there were most likely certain privileges afforded to women who colluded with male supremacy, which means there was a hierarchy created amongst women so that not all were oppressed to equal degrees… | /r/MensRights | 01/09/23 01:09 AM |
| 0 | What right(s) men have that women doesn't have (in the west)?The reason you think this is such a devastating comeback is due to your own ignorance. You're basically just saying the gender equivalent of "The earth is actually flat/hollow" and, when no feminist will bother wasting their time by writing the doctoral thesis that a proper response to your nonsense would require, you simply assume that you're right. What I don't fucking get is how you don't realize that educating yourself about how laws, societal norms, concepts of gender etc were developed and… | /r/MensRights | 01/09/23 12:42 AM |
| -1 | What right(s) men have that women doesn't have (in the west)?it's the men that are being robbed of their rights for things. So my question is how can we say we want equal rights and then take rights away. If this were true, it still doesn't matter because men hold the majority of political power and thus make the laws. Your problem is not with men or women, it's with patriarchy that exists only for the benefit of a tiny handful of people (mostly men but some women, too) and shits on everyone else. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/23 11:59 PM |
| -3 | What right(s) men have that women doesn't have (in the west)?Uh, you're forgetting one thing: MEN MADE ALL THE FUCKING LAWS. So please stop embarrassing yourself with these poorly conceived complaints and maybe read a history book. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/23 11:56 PM |
| -5 | What right(s) men have that women doesn't have (in the west)?The right to live in a world in which 75% of women don't regularly masturbate to porn featuring violence and abuse perpetrated against men. The right to fight in WW2 and be called the "Greatest Generation," while the millions of rapes perpetrated by the Allies in what some historians consider to be the worst mass rape event in history went entirely unreported and unpunished. Approximately 10 million German women were raped alone, as well as thousands of French women after the Allied liberation a… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/23 11:53 PM |
| 1 | What's the incentive for men not to be "toxically masculine", if that's what most women go for?We need to all start realizing that a lot of those posts are made by trolls who are deliberately trying to be divisive and engender hatred. I thought we had this all figured out after the whole Facebook/Cambridge Analytica/fake news shit back in 2016 - a whole lot of this shit isn't real. It's being made by 15-year olds in kyrgistan, it's utterly devoid of interest or intellectual value, and it's only making everything worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Do older men really find younger women attractive?Would most have sex with them if they had the opportunity ?Why - just because I said I wouldn't sleep with them? Uh, that just means that I'm wise, I give a shit about my partners' well-being, and I have self control. This is a weird take, tbh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 08:25 PM |
| 0 | Men have allowed modern dating to become how it is by never refusing to date women, no matter how bad her past/heavy her baggage.Exactly. And I'm saying DO SOMETHING about it for ONCE instead of just sitting around crying in your fucking beer and waiting for women to come to your rescue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/23 07:51 PM |
| 3 | Help understanding how sexually promiscuous women can still feel incredibly possessive and jealous?I'm not writing off the preference whatsoever. It's perfectly reasonable to have one's own preferences, expectations, etc. It is the hypocrisy of one person with a lot of experience expecting their potential partner to have little or none that I think is bullshit. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/23 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Jordan Peterson Discriminating Against MenExpecting men to perform the mundane adult routine of identifying your problems, examining the part you play in them, and adjusting your behavior/attitude etc in order to have better relationships with the people in your life is now discrimination? Holy shit...do you need someone to come over and cut the crust off your PBJs and open jars for you, too? | /r/MensRights | 16/08/23 04:17 PM |
| 10 | Men have allowed modern dating to become how it is by never refusing to date women, no matter how bad her past/heavy her baggage.Sounds like men's problem - why don't you do something about it other than sitting around blaming women for everything? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/23 04:08 PM |
| 1 | Help understanding how sexually promiscuous women can still feel incredibly possessive and jealous?Entitlement, fucked up beliefs about how either gender is "supposed" to act, low self esteem, need for attention/validation...I guess just the usual stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/23 02:54 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pilled FUCKED ME UP (29M)I love this! You inspire me, and I'm incredibly happy for you! | /r/ExRedPill | 16/08/23 02:52 PM |
| 1 | Help understanding how sexually promiscuous women can still feel incredibly possessive and jealous?Idk, same reason that men who have been with a country shitload of women say they prefer women with low "body counts?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/23 02:50 PM |
| 1 | Liberal women have an easier time datingWhy can’t we all just get along 🥺 Live and let live. Ya, seriously. I've been in such a messed up headspace about all of this, because I grew up in a conservative/evangelical family, hearing about individual rights and property rights and small government and the general libertarian stuff. Except that now it's those same people - including my family - who have assumed the right to interfere with everyone's lives to a shocking degree. So I'm like wait a minute - weren't you guys the same ones who… | /r/RedPillWomen | 16/08/23 04:01 AM |
| -1 | Liberal women have an easier time datingWhat we know is that men view sex as love / it is how men bond with us I don't dispute this because there is research that backs it up. However, I submit that it's a symptom of men's emotional repression and the garbage stigma about them expressing any kind of tenderness, not something they just do because they're male. Also, this seems to set the bar quite low for men's emotional contribution to a relationship. Like, junior high low. And I can only speak for myself, but I find expressions of lo… | /r/RedPillWomen | 15/08/23 05:25 AM |
| -1 | Liberal women have an easier time datingYou're getting snowed, sister. The idea that men have extremely high sex drives and are largely motivated by the pursuit of women has only been around for a few hundred years, being firmly cemented by the Victorian era. For about a thousand years before that, it was women who were said to be incorrigible nymphomaniacs who were eternally chained to the flesh. This wasn't any more accurate than it is about men today, but women were still considered property at the time and their supposed hypersexu… | /r/RedPillWomen | 15/08/23 04:30 AM |
| -1 | Liberal women have an easier time datinguser name checks out (although Brown had smth like 18 kids, so probably not a great example of this). I didn't pick my username because he was fertile, I picked it because he killed slaveowners and sacrificed his life to fight white supremacy. Along with Thomas Paine and Harriet Tubman, he's my favorite patriot for precisely that reason. Also citing exceptions who are either a likely closeted homosexual (Newton) or possible autist (Tesla) are not great examples Neither autism nor homosexuality h… | /r/RedPillWomen | 15/08/23 04:09 AM |
| 1 | Liberal women have an easier time datingWhat is the substantive difference, then, between sex and masturbation? Because it seems like getting some relief so that one can study could be most easily accomplished by one's self, if the implication is that men just need some kind of physical release of tension. I'm asking out of genuine interest, btw - not setting you up for some kind of gotcha or anything. | /r/RedPillWomen | 15/08/23 03:59 AM |
| 2 | Liberal women have an easier time datingWell hell - why are we all still fighting then?? Especially the non-Trumpy conservative ladies; I'm 100% certain we could work together for our mutual benefit. The only thing I can't abide is getting all up in each other's personal lives - everyone has the right to create their own disaster, and I think we'd all get along better if we left moral judgments up to our mentors and spiritual leaders. I come from an evangelical family and have a cousin living on a compound right now, prepping for the … | /r/RedPillWomen | 15/08/23 12:54 AM |
| -4 | Liberal women have an easier time datingI am pushing back hard on the notion that men (or women, for that matter) ever need sex. They do not. Strictly speaking, a need is something that one can't live without - food, water, shelter, warmth. We do have a general need to propagate the species, but that doesn't mean that every individual absolutely has to have sex. Untold millions of humans have been celibate all of their lives, some of whom were so successful that they achieved lasting fame, such as Nikolai Tesla and Isaac Newton. The r… | /r/RedPillWomen | 14/08/23 11:18 PM |
| 3 | Liberal women have an easier time datingLove this. | /r/RedPillWomen | 14/08/23 11:06 PM |
| 0 | Liberal women have an easier time datingI will grant you that the Rad Fems are probably more honest than the mainstreams versions of feminism that exist today. Thank you! I really appreciate that - I literally can't remember the last time I heard anyone say anything nice about us! The main reason radical feminism appeals to me is because I saw it as giving me a "loophole" to advocate for men, too, since patriarchy is shit for all of us. It gives me the flexibility to look at how women's issues affect men and vice versa. I have a diffi… | /r/RedPillWomen | 14/08/23 11:04 PM |
| 1 | Liberal women have an easier time datingYou're right, and this experience has made me realize how much self-censoring I do in a lot of feminist forums because I don't want to get excommunicated. I should stop doing that, I'm kinda disappointed in myself. | /r/RedPillWomen | 14/08/23 10:59 PM |
| 2 | Liberal women have an easier time datingSo well put - thank you for sharing that! I'm in agreement. I think third wave feminism really fucked up with the whole "sex positivity" thing because they didn't specify healthy sexuality, so now it's basically the "sexual revolution" all over again, except mainly with porn this time. | /r/RedPillWomen | 14/08/23 10:56 PM |
| 4 | Liberal women have an easier time datingYa, I'm a little nervous about having said all of that too, lol, but I figured what the hell. I really hate how polarized everything is now, because if you make a critique of feminism or women in general - which I think is a very healthy, much needed thing as long as people are thoughtful and sincere - you either get jumped on by the dogmatic feminists or you're giving ammo to misogynistic trolls who will use it dishonestly. There are a lot of things I wish women were talking about more - like m… | /r/RedPillWomen | 14/08/23 06:55 PM |
| 6 | Liberal women have an easier time dating(Just to be transparent and let you know where I'm coming from, I'm a super progressive radical feminist.) I think you should keep the faith and stay on course. There is absolutely nothing wrong with dressing modestly; tbh, I would love to see women have more of a dialogue about what exactly they're trying to achieve by dressing promiscuously. I think an argument could be made that it can be manipulative and exacerbates our sexual objectification. It also plays into our society's obsession with … | /r/RedPillWomen | 14/08/23 06:28 PM |
| 1 | Does paying women for sex automatically make me a “misogynist”?Interesting question. I'm not sure that it makes you a misogynist, in that you don't seem to actively hate women. However, I don't believe that it's possible for a man who utilizes sex workers to truly recognize women as "real" human beings, since they believe they have the right to more or less treat them as temporary sexual slaves. If money weren't involved as a means of coercion, the sex would be non-consensual in virtually every case. I personally find it extremely disturbing that men can ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 03:01 PM |
| 1 | if withholding sex is not a good way to secure commitment, then what is?Wow - are you deliberately being obtuse? Anyway, I'm gonna bow out of this convo, it's getting into some creepy areas that I'm not going to debate with you. I left a bf like you for really good reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 12:26 PM |
| 2 | Is there any hope for men’s rightsFrom studying feminism I realized that, even though I was not a "girly girl," a surprising amount of my identity was still shaped by influences from traditional femininity as well as from my peer group. The first example that comes to mind was all the shame and anxiety I felt as a teen because I was very interested in sex and masturbated at least once a day for years. Through innumerable sources (jokes overheard, tv/movies, books, my friends, etc) I learned that only men were supposed to masturb… | /r/MensRights | 03/08/23 09:52 AM |
| 2 | I see a lot of posts on this sub about what women think about autistic men in the dating landscape. What is the consensus on the reverse of that? So like question for the men on here: would you date a woman on the spectrum and do you think woman on the spectrum have it easier than men with ASD?Women are more likely to seek therapy. Men just take it out on everyone else until someone fixes it for them, and that's why women leave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 08:36 AM |
| – | I see a lot of posts on this sub about what women think about autistic men in the dating landscape. What is the consensus on the reverse of that? So like question for the men on here: would you date a woman on the spectrum and do you think woman on the spectrum have it easier than men with ASD?Wow, what a sad little person you are. I feel bad for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 08:34 AM |
| -2 | Is there any hope for men’s rightsNot unless men become willing to look critically at themselves and male culture in general - not to get down on themselves, but to figure out what it is about the version of masculinity we've always known that isn't working for men anymore? I know it's not what you want to hear, but there is no other way. How can you find solutions to your problems if you haven't figured out what they are? I'm gonna be blunt: blaming everything on women is only compounding your struggles. That is not to say that… | /r/MensRights | 03/08/23 04:41 AM |
| -8 | Is there any more I can do?Idk, maybe keep your trolling in русский? | /r/MensRights | 03/08/23 04:02 AM |
| – | if withholding sex is not a good way to secure commitment, then what is?Ok. Originally you said that if a guy listens to his wife talk all the time, then she should have sex with him daily. Listening to your wife is just basic, common courtesy and a fundamental part of relationships. You don't get extra credit for meeting expectations. If listening to a woman is such a task that you feel you should get compensated, then why the hell would you even bother with her? You'd do better with a freaking sex doll. Listening to your spouse is a given. You don't earn a reward … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 12:24 AM |
| 0 | if withholding sex is not a good way to secure commitment, then what is?you absolutely have to assign some defaults to the husband, like not doing chores, or not taking care of the kids, etc. to justify why he shouldn't get sex from his wife No, that's not at ALL what I'm saying. I'm saying that there are way, way more practical, adult relationship and home maintenance tasks that men are frankly notorious for not doing, and that you should at least be a fully functioning partner - the bare freaking minimum - before you start in with the entitled shit about how you n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 04:25 PM |
| 0 | if withholding sex is not a good way to secure commitment, then what is?So in your words, desiring regular sex = shitty behaviour? I raise my case This is my fault - I wasn't clear at all. What I left out was my complaint about how often men use their hormones as an excuse for why they can't control themselves, basically. Then I should have said the bit about excusing shitty behavior. I don't see a correlation between conversation and sex; I can and probably would have a conversation with anyone, but sex is much more intimate and personal, and personal preferences a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 02:58 PM |
| 1 | if withholding sex is not a good way to secure commitment, then what is?I usually do when I find that I'm speaking with yet another tiresome, uninformed, bozo manosphere clone. Since basic human respect is such an unreasonable expectation for you, I switch from my "polite discourse" setting to "guess I don't have to give a fuck." Best luck with your misery. And keep up the good work - you guys are driving women to feminism in droves. I guess doubling down on dysfunctional assholery was a bad strategy. Bye. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 02:39 PM |
| 0 | if withholding sex is not a good way to secure commitment, then what is?Wow. I'm kinda speechless about your self-centered narcissism. Hopefully you'll develop some empathy one day. If you're so desperate to get laid, here's a helpful tip: women don't usually sleep with men who are so weak and broken that they need to dehumanize women. Not much of a man, you know? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 10:57 AM |
| 1 | Q4Everyone - Facial HairI think men should do whatever the heck they want with their bodies. If I'm demanding bodily autonomy related to abortion, then I can't very well dictate to men what they can do with theirs. This absolutely includes circumcision, which I see as genital mutilation and an enormous boundary violation by parents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 10:25 AM |
| 1 | is it wrong to want a feminine woman ?I don't think it's necessarily wrong, but tbh it makes you sound like you need to feel superior to whoever you're dating and it's a bit regressive. But there are regressive women out there, too, so I say go for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 10:18 AM |
| 1 | if withholding sex is not a good way to secure commitment, then what is?when getting sex is as easy as going to the grocery store and picking whatever you like as a woman Why do men assume this? Like we'd go out and just fuck any scumbag in a bar, just because we can? That's why they have vibrators, dude. Also, the fact that you think it is so easy for women to get laid shows how ignorant you are about how much women have to be concerned for their personal safety. To women, going out and sleeping with any random asshole sounds like the perfect way to get raped or wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 10:15 AM |
| 2 | if withholding sex is not a good way to secure commitment, then what is?Yes, if you can't get laid you are a loser as a man, it's a brutal truth. You do realize you only care about this to get the approval of other men, right? The only people that consistently hold you to the "if you can't get laid you are a loser" standard are other men. It's not about the women, and only marginally about sex; it's about trying to increase your status with your bros. Women are only pawns. Patriarchy is homoerotic like that, it's kinda funny, really. From my perspective, anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 09:48 AM |
| -1 | So where exactly are those male privileges I have been promised?The problem with your post is that you don't know what you're talking about, and here's why: At a certain point in life, often in college or in their late 20s/30s, a lot of women get sick of the tsunami of misogyny they deal with every day and start wanting to know how in the hell the world got this way and how it can be made better. So those women get into feminism, which usually means they start reading feminist literature and learning about women's history. We do this because the inequalities… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/23 09:44 AM |
| 1 | Q4Everyone, can you give examples of good women/men you know in real life? Preferably people of the opposite gender to yours.Wasn't that Rushdoony guy involved with writing the Fundamentals? Or was that the Institute of Biblical Law or whatever that shit was? Those people are the absolute worst. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 06:26 AM |
| 2 | if withholding sex is not a good way to secure commitment, then what is?What does that have to do with anything? I've been in those subs, and I see just as many women complaining about a dead bedroom as men. I didn't say that sex wasn't an important part of a relationship, I said that it's a dysfunctional way to define oneself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 06:22 AM |
| 1 | if withholding sex is not a good way to secure commitment, then what is?Men don't define their self-worth only by sex, stop womansplaining to men how they define themselves. This is why men need a legitimate liberation movement analogous to feminism - because you guys need to get honest with yourselves and do some serious introspection. And not for women's benefit, but for your own. The point is that men shouldn't waste their time with women who are stringing them along. Stringing them along for what...? What is it that men could be expecting from women that women a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 06:19 AM |
| 1 | Q4Everyone, can you give examples of good women/men you know in real life? Preferably people of the opposite gender to yours.45 cis-het white woman, rad fem, and I've had a multitude of awesome men in my life. Most of my closest friends have been guys - I'm not sure why, I just vibe with them better. I've never had a problem having platonic friendships with men; the few times one of them made a move on me, I told them that I'd rather be their friend forever than their girlfriend for a few months, and that seemed to work fine. Here are some of the things I love/loved about some of the men in my life: Peter: my best fri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 06:10 AM |
| 4 | Women who had pre marital sex are more likely to get divorced because of lack of religious belief, not because of broken pair boding abilities or whatever RP says.Really? Because religion hasn't kept the Christian church from being covered up with porn users. Religion didn't keep the Southern Baptist Conference from covering up over 400 incidents of sexual abuse and/or rape for years. Religion didn't keep widespread sexual abuse out of the Mormon church. After witnessing the absolutely disgusting display of hypocrisy that American "Christians" have been putting on for the past seven years, I don't want to hear any more lectures about everyone else's fucki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 04:55 AM |
| 1 | if withholding sex is not a good way to secure commitment, then what is?Thats like telling women to not put value into societies beauty standards. They have been shown it since they are young and it has been reinforced while they were growing up. And this is precisely why feminism came about and why it has been such a powerful force in the world: it helps women realize that all of that is just so much bullshit that was dreamt up by men centuries ago and does not define us. If men would bother to actually read what feminists think, they would realize that feminism is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 03:21 AM |
| -1 | if withholding sex is not a good way to secure commitment, then what is?You girls have no idea what testosterone is like. I'm so tired of the MuH tEsToStErOnE argument. Not only is it still not understood exactly how testosterone works to affect the male libido, but estrogen is also crucial for them. Hormones are not an acceptable excuse for shitty behavior. Sex is healing for us, literally! We don't crave it because we are perverts, we crave it because it makes us whole, it resets us, it allows us to focus all our energy on other things. Sex is healing because it's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 01:23 AM |
| 1 | If you walked into a room with 100 people of the opposite gender, all of them are single and around your age, how many of them do you think would want to go on a date with you?No way in HELL would I be in a room with 100 men I didn't know. I get creeped out if I'm in a long line of men at the gas station. I know what men jerk off to. No thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 12:21 AM |
| 10 | if withholding sex is not a good way to secure commitment, then what is?All I have to say about this is that it's a tragedy that so many men choose to define themselves and their self worth by sex. It's also become super boring. Men have way more to offer than just their dicks. I can get a $15 vibrator if that's all I care about. It's sad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/23 11:40 PM |
| -2 | So where exactly are those male privileges I have been promised?the way women were treated 50+ years ago Women still face a variety of injustices - even in 2023, even in America. Regarding rape specifically, America has the 13th highest rape rates in the world you also think all white people should just put up with racism and insults towards them because their ancestors treated people of color the same so now its their turn to suffer? A) Suggesting that there is any kind of systemic racism against white people in America is pathetic and disgusting beyond wor… | /r/MensRights | 01/08/23 11:29 PM |
| -2 | So where exactly are those male privileges I have been promised?Maybe if men had ever made the effort to acknowledge the complaints women have been making for centuries about the ways that men were disadvantaging them, posts like this wouldn't seem like a whiny, insulting slap in the face. It's the same principle as men collapsing into hysterical self pity about the 3% of rape allegations that wind up being false, while not acknowledging that most women who are raped/assaulted don't even report it in the first fucking place. It's pathetic, it's narcissistic,… | /r/MensRights | 01/08/23 06:44 PM |
| 1 | Now they're calling Trans Men winning beauty pageants brazen misogyny"Or you're just from some Macedonian troll farm, hard to tell. | /r/MensRights | 16/07/23 01:42 AM |
| 1 | Now they're calling Trans Men winning beauty pageants brazen misogyny"Ya, we are not operating on the same level in this exchange. | /r/MensRights | 16/07/23 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Now they're calling Trans Men winning beauty pageants brazen misogyny"All humans are sex objects Really? This is your killer comeback? | /r/MensRights | 16/07/23 01:09 AM |
| 1 | Now they're calling Trans Men winning beauty pageants brazen misogyny"Why? Just because of the blatant objectification and admission that women are mainly valuable as sex objects. Nothing very complicated. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/23 08:59 PM |
| -6 | Feminism and Gendered LanguageIdk, I'd say that most of the anti-male messaging is embedded in the media more so than the English language itself. | /r/MensRights | 14/07/23 12:27 AM |
| 1 | the impact of women’s fear/distrust of men in datingMeh - I doubt those men are bothered very much. Thanks for your concern, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/23 11:55 PM |
| 4 | the impact of women’s fear/distrust of men in datingI'm just not interested in dating a guy who has been watching violently misogynistic porn since they were a pre-teen. I just don't trust or respect men that jerk off to women being physically, verbally, and sexually abused - I'm talking about throat fucking, choking, slapping, spitting, things like that. Men don't get off on that shit unless they have a deep-seated contempt for women, regardless of what any of them try to say, and I simply couldn't ever trust them. Plus I really like sex and don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/23 11:35 PM |
| 5 | the impact of women’s fear/distrust of men in datingAnother man who is so insecure that he has to tell women what they think. Zzzzzzzzzzzz | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/23 11:13 PM |
| -19 | Feminism and Gendered LanguageThere is is so much misogyny in the English language that it's basically invisible. | /r/MensRights | 13/07/23 10:46 PM |
| 7 | the impact of women’s fear/distrust of men in datingI'm actually more likely to avoid super good-looking and/or really muscular guys because I assume they're narcissists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/23 10:23 PM |
| 4 | the impact of women’s fear/distrust of men in datingI doubt I'd bother trying to date a guy anymore because of how violent porn has been for so long. No thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/23 10:19 PM |
| -2 | Now they're calling Trans Men winning beauty pageants brazen misogyny"Beauty pageants are always misogynistic, no matter who wins or participates. | /r/MensRights | 13/07/23 07:07 PM |
| 1 | The social contract men sign in the west as a result of heterosexual relationships is insane. When will Equal women abandon spousal support and property transfers.Does reading a handful of quotes, removed from their original context, make one informed? What information do they provide about the history of marriage that leads you to believe marriage hasn't historically been an oppressive institution for women? That is not an easy case to make on next to no evidence; it was only in 1974 that women were permitted to open their own bank accounts and have their own credit cards without needing their husbands as cosigners, for example. If you're going to say th… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/23 04:17 PM |
| 1 | The social contract men sign in the west as a result of heterosexual relationships is insane. When will Equal women abandon spousal support and property transfers.Maybe you should read what feminists have really said about it. I see a lot of assertions about what feminists supposedly think, and very few comments that show an accurate understanding of history. If you guys think you hate feminism so much, shouldn't you at least know what you're opposing? For example, I listen to right-wing talk radio 2-3 times a week because I want to know what their latest conspiracy theory is, in their own words. I don't need cable news to tell me, I can go right to the s… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/23 03:36 AM |
| 1 | The social contract men sign in the west as a result of heterosexual relationships is insane. When will Equal women abandon spousal support and property transfers.You say this like women will think it's a bad thing. | /r/MensRights | 12/07/23 03:27 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The vast majority of men would enrich their sex life by paying for sexProstitution is paid rape, since the exchange of money is coercion. It would be a sad commentary on men to suggest that it would improve their sex lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 01:42 AM |
| 1 | Woman get's the ick because she was treated like a friend. A common issue in male/female relationships?I disagree - friendship is an essential part of romance for me. I don't even understand how you can separate the two. My husband is a friend I'm also sexually and romantically attracted to, and I wouldn't have it any other way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 01:18 AM |
| 3 | What do women get out of relationships with men?These are some of the ways my husband makes my world a better place: He's my best friend and the person with whom I share most of my experiences He's broadened my horizons in countless ways, from teaching me how to play golf to explaining new developments in quantum physics that I'd be hopeless to understand otherwise He has encouraged and supported me in some of the most difficult times of my life He makes me laugh and has the same dark sense of humor that I do His optimism and patience help of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 01:13 AM |
| 2 | Woman get's the ick because she was treated like a friend. A common issue in male/female relationships?My husband and I are best friends, first and foremost. If a man can't manage to simply treat me like a friend, why in the world would I bother even going on a date with them? What do they possibly have to offer me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 12:54 AM |
| -2 | A little known tragedy that I think relates to male rights is how these young bellboys were made to stay on the ship while everyone else (namely the women and the children) were given the lifeboats to flee. If they were female servants they never would have been left to die like thisGender was less of an issue on the Titanic than class. And the whole "women and children first" rule wasn't made up by women or children. [insert long, thoughtful explanation of this being an example of how patriarchy fucks men up that would be a complete waste of my time here] | /r/MensRights | 12/07/23 12:50 AM |
| – | Are women who get in relationships with men who watch porn or occasionally like insta photos of hot women abusively controlling?I just wouldn't get in a relationship with a man who did either of those things in the first place. Nope. I'd sincerely rather grow old and die alone. There actually are men out there who are better than that. I'm married to one. I think more of the women who disagree with porn just need to refuse to date guys who watch porn and let men figure it out. The violence, misogyny, and racism in porn now is unacceptable, and if no one is going to regulate it, then men need to be held accountable in oth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 11:20 PM |
| 1 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityAgain - you're enough as you are. Men don't need women to be "real men;" why give us so much power over you? Feminism spurred women to better understand the concept of femininity and the ways that it was holding us back. Men would benefit so, so much from an analogous liberation movement that would free them from their dependence on women and controlling women. Go work on establishing that and worry about yourselves instead of worrying about us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityI'm not going to keep debating your oversimplified understanding of the world, which is one of men's biggest problems. You can't change anything about your outlook because everything threatens you, so you're stuck with a vision of the world that is more and more at odds with contemporary life. Best of luck. Just remember - you're already man enough; you don't need a woman to make you so. You are enough, just as you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityToo bad. If feminism and the idea of patriarchy are so absurd, then why are women ascendant right now, while men - who can't move past an idealized version of the 1950s that never even existed - have become a white-hot mess? Your answers are right here. All you have to do is open your mind and realize that you are and always have been man enough, just the way you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 07:19 PM |
| 4 | If "hypergamy" is women "dating up" when it comes to "masculine" traits in men that she might not have as much as he does, what is it called when men "date up" when it comes to "feminine" traits in women that he might not have as much as she has?Especially at a time when women in America have more power and independence than women have ever had in recorded history. Now we're going to decide to all be golddiggers? It's fucking laughable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuitySure, we are permanently, irrevocably intertwined. But that doesn't mean that patriarchy hasn't led to the formation of narratives about women that have nothing to do with reality and live solely in men's heads. A silly example of this is the notion of vagina dentata, the vagina with teeth that will devour and/or mutilate men, which is a reflection of the fundamental threat that the idea of femininity poses to men's ideas about masculinity. Women didn't make that stuff up, men did. Feminists hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityA) isn't this what you guys usually refer to as "concern trolling" when women do it? B) Even if promiscuity did have some kind of negative effect on women's mental health, it would still have nothing to do with men and would not necessitate women changing their behavior on your behalf. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 06:51 PM |
| 1 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityNo, I'm saying that the issue exists solely in men's heads and is not something women should bother themselves about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 06:31 PM |
| 1 | It will certainly be interesting to see how women/feminists react to artificial wombs if and when they become a reality, as it will allow men to have children without women and therefore take a substantial amount of power from themSecond wave feminists, such as Mary Daly and Andrea Dworkin, often spoke of this possibility as giving men the ability to finally eliminate women entirely, which has long been their ultimate goal. I'm on the fence about it, but lean toward agreement nowadays. Also, you describe it as "taking power," but a lot of us would perceive it as "finally being able to be left alone to just be human." So it depends on your perspective there. | /r/MensRights | 11/07/23 05:33 PM |
| 1 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuity30 or so bodies Wtf is up with this dehumanizing, dystopian shit with the "body count?" Did somebody fuck 30 or so corpses? WOMEN ARE NOT MERELY BODIES, NOR ARE WE NUMBERS. I swear to god, men talk about women now as if we were products to be plucked off a shelf - come at us with some goddamn respect. Gross. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 08:25 AM |
| -9 | In a supposed "support" sub on Reddit, a female poster says "Men are attracted to pre-teens/teenagers". Result? HUGE upvotes, and a peaceful request to rethink was met with insults & hate. Even "support/safe" places are man hating now!!I'm not sure that a lot of men realize how much porn has hurt a lot of women's opinions of men. I hear it fairly often from friends, seems like maybe more in the past year or so. The popularity of "barely legal/teen" content is disturbing, and that's probably why a lot of people upvoted. I know that not every man watches porn and all the usual caveats. I understand why you would be upset by the upvotes - it's degrading and inaccurate. I'd be upset, too. I want to respectfully add that I often se… | /r/MensRights | 10/07/23 07:41 AM |
| 3 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuitySorry to burst your bubble, but estrogen plays a crucial role in men's sex drive, too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 02:54 AM |
| 6 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityRight? What strikes me is that you can tell they have absolutely no concern whatsoever for who women actually are as people. Everything is about them; women only exist to fulfill their "needs," as if we're vending machines. They seem to be utterly incapable of both listening to women and believing us, which really makes me wonder why in the fuck they bother in the first place. They're just empty, like someone opened the airlock in their heads and the resulting vacuum was filled with hatred and s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 06:20 PM |
| 3 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityThank you! Since we're not allowed to celebrate (I forget the cute little term they use) do you think a subreddit where we can start collecting these bullshit narratives and provide a thorough debunking would be useful? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 05:37 PM |
| 3 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityThis is the deal: Women don't owe men shit. We don't owe you our chastity, we don't owe you our sexual history, we don't owe you sex or offspring or anything else that you can come up with. The sooner you get it into your head that women are their own people and that you have absolutely no controlling interest in our lives whatsoever, the sooner you'll free yourself from your dependence on us. Men can't have so much of their identities dependent on what women do or don't do for them. Those days … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 02:17 PM |
| 1 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityDon't know what to tell you, buddy. You can be upset, but thems the breaks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 02:05 PM |
| 4 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityWell, it's not our fault that these guys stop reading when they get to what they want to hear. Actually, allow me to go on a small but related rant: I don't think the bitter evo-psych guys read anything at all, especially when it comes to history. The arguments they float are so wildly inaccurate or else came from a dusty book on the top shelf of Freud's library they're so fucking old and debunked, and they pronounce them so arrogantly - they come in the feminist subs like they're fucking Moses … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 01:21 PM |
| 9 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityExcept that men's "lizard brains" took a while to even understand that males played a part in reproduction at all. That shit wasn't inborn, instinctual knowledge, humans had to figure it out - probably by observing animal life. We have an instinctual drive to protect the young, no matter whose they are. The importance of paternity is a creation of patriarchy. Did early homo sapiens love their children? Sure. But they didn't have any concept of them being "theirs" because they didn't know how fer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 12:17 PM |
| 1 | Porn is unrealistic and unhealthy, but society doesn't seem interested in telling people what actually is realistic and healthy.And no one is making excuses for criminals inspired by movies Really? Then why did you feel the need to post that link when I brought up women being choked nonconsensually during sex due to porn? You could have just as easily said "oh ya, that doesn't sound great," or something similar. Something that would have acknowledged the very obvious problem with the scenario I described, and which I've heard reported by women multiple times. But you didn't. Instead, you justified it by saying "people re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 08:53 AM |
| 8 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityExcept that we get slut-shamed even if we haven't actually slept with someone - because it's not about sex and whether we've had it, it's about simply degrading women and attempting to control/suppress their sexuality. Additionally, slut-shaming is something done TO WOMEN by other people. This idea that you're entitled to a virgin exists solely in your head. You're doing that to yourselves, and then you're taking your shit out on women. It is your problem, not women's. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 08:45 AM |
| 1 | Porn is unrealistic and unhealthy, but society doesn't seem interested in telling people what actually is realistic and healthy.Yup, they sure do - but I'm not in the habit of making excuses for nonconsensual choking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 08:39 AM |
| 5 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityLol...You guys just can't accept anything that doesn't make you the victim and/or the center of the universe. Everything has to be all about you, and you don't listen to a damn thing anyone tells you. I can't help you, man. Best of luck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 07:54 AM |
| 15 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityI don't know what the corollary for this is in women. It's called a SEX DRIVE! And it's not that much different from yours!! Women just have many more reasons to say no to sex, and we don't base our entire self esteem and self-worth around how much sex we have so that we feel like we have to have it constantly to prove how great we are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 07:37 AM |
| 7 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityWhy not answer the question? Because there is no answer that will make men such as yourself happy other than total virginity, and I'm not going to deny my own sexual pleasure just so some man's fucking ego doesn't get deflated. Have you ever actually sat down and thought through exactly WHY this is so important to you? Legitimate question. Have you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 07:32 AM |
| 9 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityI haven't seen any of that personally, but I'm sure that it happens. No one should even care about it, virginity as a concept just doesn't need to be a thing. All it does is cause harm in a bunch of different ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 07:26 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Say what you want about TRP, but it's messed up that nice, perfectly normal dudes struggle to get basic women while literal thugs and walking red flags slay with women just because they're overconfident.... because there is no way a bunch of toxically masculine men would lie about how successful they were with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 07:01 AM |
| 11 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityBecause it's really none of your business! What don't you get about that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 06:52 AM |
| 2 | Role models - for womenHarriet Tubman!!! She was the first American woman to lead a military offensive and freed at least a thousand slaves, at great personal risk. | /r/MensRights | 09/07/23 06:25 AM |
| 10 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityWell, best of luck with all that, then. Hasn't been working out for you guys that well for quite a long time, but hey - knock yourself out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 06:19 AM |
| 13 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityI don't disagree with you, but I think the majority of pressure put on guys regarding their virginity is other men. That's the way it is with a lot of things that get taken out on women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 06:16 AM |
| 1 | Porn is unrealistic and unhealthy, but society doesn't seem interested in telling people what actually is realistic and healthy.It's fascism, part of which involves a kind of cult of masculinity. Think Putin shirtless on horseback, Mussolini shirtless "working" with the peasants. There's always an emphasis on traditional gender roles, especially for women, and the usual homophobia of insecure men. The only good thing about it is watching these fashy guys who have no idea how homoerotic all their shit is - it never gets old to me. The more "manly" they claim to be, the gayer they actually look and act. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 06:15 AM |
| 1 | Porn is unrealistic and unhealthy, but society doesn't seem interested in telling people what actually is realistic and healthy.Because people who watch sci fi movies don't cause a public disaster by trying to launch a handmade rocket out to Mars, but men choke women during sex without asking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 06:09 AM |
| 1 | Porn is unrealistic and unhealthy, but society doesn't seem interested in telling people what actually is realistic and healthy.For people whose only option is "sex work or nothing", I think it might always be a bit dehumanizing for customers to "have" to pay for something as their only option. Dehumanizing for the customers? Fuck the customers, are you serious? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 06:06 AM |
| 1 | Porn is unrealistic and unhealthy, but society doesn't seem interested in telling people what actually is realistic and healthy.Porn has drastically changed the way that I think of the male gender. It really, really, really disturbs me that so many of them jerk off to such violent, misogynistic shit. Tbh I don't even know why a lot of it is legal. It makes me wonder if men even have consciences. It makes me wonder if they're fucking ashamed of themselves. Have they ever wondered how many rapes they've jerked off to in their lives? Pornhub had to remove ten million videos - a third of its catalog - because of rape, victim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 06:03 AM |
| 18 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityEwwwww!! Yes! And ya, I don't think they realize. And like, fuck men's virginity, too. Putting your penis inside my vagina for 30 seconds does not make you a man, go focus on your fucking character, ffs, lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 05:41 AM |
| 1 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityHe deleted the comment, lol. Licks finger, chalks up imaginary point in midair | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 05:38 AM |
| 20 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityYou claim women want sex as much as men, yet in your reply you say how us guys sound like a "broken record" and we have an "endless obsession" about sex. You fail to see how you contradict yourself. No, it's not a contradiction. I can like sex and want sex without talking about it all the time. Women will never understand the need that men feel to have sex Half of it isn't even about actually having sex, half of it is getting your masculinity validated, about feeling like a real man, about havin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 05:36 AM |
| 18 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuitysuch a fucking pussy Thank you! Vaginas are all muscle, they're tough and resilient enough to take a pounding during sex and flexible enough to accommodate all penis sizes, and they've pushed out every human being on the planet. Vaginas are fucking badass. Also, ever thought about how fucking dumb it is that all you seem to want is pussy, and yet you use it as an insult? Dude, go figure your shit out. Alright it’s done. Fuck off. You don't get to tell me what to do, and you don't decide when I'm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 05:21 AM |
| 22 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityExactly. And plus, the fixation on women's virginity is super gross and creepy. They pretty much just need to mind their own business about our sex lives, that's basically what it comes down to. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 05:15 AM |
| – | Women have an hard problem knowing what they should put effort into to be more attractive as a long term partner.Ya, we're not a rest stop. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 05:11 AM |
| 1 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityLol - You can't stop, can you? I was not emotional at all in my last comment, and you're implying the opposite - which is the oldest, most tired way that men try to undercut women. And it's still telling me what I think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 05:07 AM |
| 42 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityNo, we don't care because: Our entire sense of self-worth is not determined by sex. We actually have other interests and priorities, and other things we are looking for from men and/or relationships. The stud/slut double standard renders your obsession with women's chastity pretty absurd and narcissistic. Unless your "body count" is similarly low/non-existent, we don't want to hear it. It's 2023. like a guy biologically is wired to want it Uh, we're all wired to want it. It's called "the necessi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 04:59 AM |
| 28 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityIt's really gross, it's extremely hypocritical, and it only reflects men's insecurities. We just don't really give a shit - it's men's problem, they can get over it or go sleep with someone else, you know? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 04:38 AM |
| 21 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityHas it ever occurred to you that you'd be a lot more successful with women if you didn't try to tell us what we think all the time? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 04:35 AM |
| 68 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityI think it's more that we don't care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 03:19 AM |
| 1 | Society is normalizing violence against men and it needs to stopGuess you'll stop watching TV and movies, playing video games, and listening to a fair amount of music, then - an enormous amount of normalizing violence against men passes for entertainment. | /r/MensRights | 09/07/23 01:59 AM |
| 2 | Men are not sexual savages, they have been taught they arealthough plenty of rulers did do this in times of war, of course I don't think they had to wait for times of war. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 01:47 AM |
| 2 | Men are not sexual savages, they have been taught they areA reflection of their view of women as commodities that bestow status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 01:07 AM |
| 1 | Casual sex is easy for men not because of standards, but because men are sexually stimulated purely by looks, and for women its a complex mix of thingsWhy do women not like dick pics Perhaps because around 80% of women can't have an orgasm merely from having a penis moving in and out of their vagina, so we don't place as much importance on it as men do. Speaking for myself personally, I'm exhausted by men's obsession with their penises - I'm tired of hearing about it, tired of seeing it, tired of hearing jokes about it, just completely burned out on the whole thing. porn is primarily consumed by men Because the vast majority of it is made for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/23 10:53 PM |
| 1 | Casual sex is easy for men not because of standards, but because men are sexually stimulated purely by looks, and for women its a complex mix of thingsThe "men are uniquely visual" thing has been debunked by several studies. It is discussed at length in the book What Do Women Want? by Daniel Bergner. Not only did the women in one study he followed get aroused from sexual imagery, they got aroused to a much wider array of sexual content than did the men in the study. In fact, the only picture the women were shown that didn't turn them on was a picture of a naked man with a flaccid penis. They even got aroused at the bonobo monkeys screwing. Men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/23 10:40 PM |
| 1 | WHY THERE'S A DISPROPORTIONATE HATE TOWARDS MALE GENDER NON CONFORMITY?I am a woman and was also a tomboy, and I firmly believe that women have much more latitude when it comes to gender expression than men do. There simply is not any kind of tomboy equivalent that is acceptable for boys. My god - my husband is in the second half of his 40's and the nurse at the hospital the other day apologized for having to give him a pink bandaid! She actually spent 90 seconds digging around in a fucking drawer so that she didn't have to besmirch my husband's masculinity with a … | /r/MensRights | 08/07/23 10:22 PM |
| 1 | What do you guys think of racist IR pornography?Thank you for the thoughtful reply. In my personal experience, I've had a lot of my friends say that thickness makes a positive difference, and I would concur - although there is a limit, lol. I will say, anecdotally, that I've only had one single friend in all my 45 years say that she preferred large penises. The most common opinion by far is "I don't give a shit," and there are also a lot of us that actively don't like large penises. I hate having my cervix jabbed with a penis, it hurts. It's … | /r/MensRights | 08/07/23 09:10 PM |
| 2 | What do you guys think of racist IR pornography?Idk how I missed this comment, but it is interesting. It makes me want to read IR porn deconstructed from a black person's point of view. Idk whether I agree with you fully or not - I need to process it for awhile - but you've definitely given me food for thought, and that's better than agreeing with me :) | /r/MensRights | 08/07/23 08:08 PM |
| 1 | What do you guys think of racist IR pornography?Dude, if you're going to discuss the vagina, then make sure you mention how around ~80% of women can't even have an orgasm from solely having a penis thrusting in and out of their vaginas and thus don't give a shit how big your dick is. We can't even feel the walls of our vagina past a couple of inches, all we feel is a sensation of pressure/fullness. It's not that penises don't feel good during sex, because they definitely do, but they are not the main way that we get off and are not super impo… | /r/MensRights | 08/07/23 08:03 PM |
| 1 | What do you guys think of racist IR pornography?I don't care about what other races have done - that has nothing to do with the discussion, which is about white people specifically. Saying that I have "white guilt" is just a deflection and an ad hominem attack, and I submit that it's also projection of your insecurities about your whiteness onto me. It's a lame way to try to weasel out of having to consider your own beliefs and understanding of history. I never said it means whites are victims first of all. You are the one imposing that narra… | /r/MensRights | 08/07/23 07:44 PM |
| 0 | What do you guys think of racist IR pornography?Do you really think white men would turn a fear into a fetish? Yes, because it was taboo. Taboos are often compelling, they titillate us more because they are forbidden fruit. I am also surprised you think that someone who is capable of such atrocities would even have a guilty conscience. They didn't. They were basically concerned with their own status, which would increase if they maintained control of all their property. You do realize that men in general, regardless of race, have a fear of th… | /r/MensRights | 08/07/23 05:44 AM |
| -2 | My youngest son experienced girl privilegeHaha, I just assume I'll be downvoted down to the Earth's mantle in here - which is fine because what the fuck is a reddit vote when I've got all these other problems? :) It doesn't surprise me that no one else sees it. I feel really grateful for feminist analysis because it taught me to read this stuff slower and more carefully to pick up on that stuff. Men just haven't had an analogous movement to do a bunch of similar analysis, so I think it's just a case of not being familiar with those conc… | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 11:27 PM |
| 11 | My youngest son experienced girl privilegeYa, there is some subtext here that I just don't feel like analyzing fully. Kinda had to roll my eyes about the whole haircut thing. He makes a good point overall, though, I think. | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 10:46 PM |
| 22 | My youngest son experienced girl privilegeI think that's a conversation that we should all have, you raise a valid point. | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 10:45 PM |
| 59 | My youngest son experienced girl privilegeWow, that was a good insight by your wife. I think it's really weird that people do this, and I'm struggling to put myself in that mindset. When I see a kid it's my instinct to be friendly and gentle, who gives a shit about their gender? People are fucked up. | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Feminism's problem isn't that they hate men or not care about their problems. Is that they only *superficially* care.Awww, we have a mutual admiration society!!! :) | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 10:40 PM |
| 1 | Feminism's problem isn't that they hate men or not care about their problems. Is that they only *superficially* care.Thank you for such a thoughtful comment! It's so helpful when men take the time to explain their thinking this way, it helps me get a peek through your perspective and that's invaluable. And thank you for the kind words - it's very refreshing. You make a great point about tribalism. That's been a boondoggle for humanity for a long time. And I didn't feel like you were invalidating me at all, I just wanted to be a little bit more open and honest about the confusion and complexity of my feelings a… | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 10:37 PM |
| -2 | Feminism's problem isn't that they hate men or not care about their problems. Is that they only *superficially* care.a woman thinking that she has a roght to generalise us It is necessary to generalize in order to talk about such broad issues. We'd have very little anthropology, archaeology, sociology, and many other areas of study without the practice of generalization. Gurl, Don't ever mistake me for a mere gurl. This is a fair warning about name calling. your issues are not our thing for us to take care of, I neither need nor want you or any other man to take care of me in any regard, and a lot of women fee… | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 10:25 PM |
| -4 | Feminism's problem isn't that they hate men or not care about their problems. Is that they only *superficially* care.I have a schizophrenic relationship with men. My husband is one of the best human beings I know, and I would take a bullet for him. I've had so many amazing male friends that have enriched my life greatly. Yet men are also a perpetual, pervasive, low-grade threat to my safety. I've been drugged and raped, many of my female friends have been assaulted and/or molested, and I'm living in a society that is full of men who watch violent porn. And the problem is that I can't tell who's who. I can't te… | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 09:24 PM |
| 1 | What do you guys think of racist IR pornography?It would take a lot of confidence for me personally, I'm not sure about everyone else. And I agree that open marriage would likely be a more functional, healthy system. But I would need confidence bc I had an eating disorder for 15 years and my body image is shit, so I would be levelled by my husband sleeping with someone else. I don't use any behaviors anymore, but the self hatred is something I'm still working on. So that's what I meant. I think it's awesome. You're inspiring. | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 09:08 PM |
| 1 | We have always lived, and still lived, under a patriarchal social order that privileges men over women...First of all, I'm not attacking or accusing you of anything, so just relax. I'm not trying to beat you down in some kind of Kirk vs Spock battle to the death :) It's just a debate, no big deal. We don't have to agree. Anyway. I respectfully suggest that your understanding of human history is not fully accurate. It kinda gobsmacks me that you would refute the incredibly long history of male domination, which was the only history that was well-recorded and taught until the 20th century. I mean, it… | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 08:59 PM |
| 1 | What do you guys think of racist IR pornography?I mean, this is a really nuanced thing, because I totally believe most people who watch that are not freaking George Wallace. They don't consciously hate black people, they don't want to see them marginalized, nothing like that. I think that white supremacy is so deeply ingrained in our country because we never addressed slavery and the indigenous genocides that we are all on a kind of racism spectrum. I'm obnoxiously progressive and I catch myself thinking racist shit on the reg. Granted, it's … | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 08:22 PM |
| 1 | What do you guys think of racist IR pornography?Ya, I think I do. But I think what people really mean when they say that is that they want sex without expectations or attachment. And that's great, whatever blows one's hair back. And I admire your confidence and (what seems to me like) daring, too, btw. Wish I had some of that!! | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 08:14 PM |
| 1 | We have always lived, and still lived, under a patriarchal social order that privileges men over women...We're told there's this systematic privilege for men that's existed and been promoted for centuries. This is true, but it's an oversimplification, because the reality is that not all men are as privileged as other. There is a hierarchy in which the men on the higher rungs shit on the men below them, and there is constant competition over status. Most men do not reap the full benefits of male supremacy/patriarchy. In fact, it damages men almost to the degree it does women, but it's easy to overlo… | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 08:02 PM |
| 1 | What do you guys think of racist IR pornography?From Brazil? Nice! When I was a cook I worked with a lot of Brazilians and you guys are great! And your English is fantastic! I wish I could remember more Portuguese than "obrigado!" | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 02:37 PM |
| 1 | What do you guys think of racist IR pornography?But isn't the whole point of IR porn that the man IS black? Whether one is conscious of that or not, isn't that basically the defining feature of IR porn? So it has to matter for some reason. Likewise with the woman being white. I don't see how one can escape the racism of that. They may not necessarily be an outright white supremacist, but there are definitely some racist archetypes being reenacted. I didn't even know that some black men agreed with the concept, but, now that you say that, it m… | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 02:35 PM |
| 2 | Men shouldn't show their emotions to womenSorry, man. I can't help you. But I do wish you well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 02:21 PM |
| 2 | Men shouldn't show their emotions to womenAnd the feminist big name I was referring to was bell hooks, don't know if you've heard of her. Her books are pretty good she understands a lot about both men and women I love bell hooks, RIP! I think if you read more widely in feminism you'd find that they've been speaking to men's difficulties the whole time, it's just that men don't want to read it for reasons. I wouldn't have even known there was such a thing as men's rights or that men suffered from gendered injustices if not for feminists,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Men shouldn't show their emotions to womenWe have the softest generation of men in history and suicide, drug overdoses and loneliness is at an all time high because they have been brainwashed with this feminist dogma that weakness Is a virtue. This makes me super sad, man. I think that what you're really struggling with is your own pain and fears about women and your own identity, and externalizing that in some way is less painful. I wish there were something I could do to reassure you or give you a little hope. I have a hard time findi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 01:59 PM |
| -1 | why are men fighting and dying in ukraine exactly?😂😂😂 Some of the shit these guys come up with is so dumb. Either poorly thought through, or conspiratorial propaganda and talking points. And they don't even live in an alternate reality that sounds pleasant, it sounds like a diarrheal vortex of fear and self pity. I feel like I woke up one day and half of the world were suddenly just fucking idiots. | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 01:53 PM |
| 2 | Men shouldn't show their emotions to womenYa, that sounds pretty good! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 01:47 PM |
| -5 | Will men be shamed in the future for bit wanting to date "soft" sex workers? (OF models, sugar babes etc.)Jerking off to porn doesn't make one promiscuous No - I was saying the woman with the OF site was promiscuous :) No, I wouldn't date a porn star, even though I do watch porn. No, there's no contradiction. I respectfully disagree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 01:46 PM |
| 7 | Men shouldn't show their emotions to womenThank you for this reply, it was really helpful. I do not mean to invalidate men's fears at all - it's not hard to see that they're valid. I definitely know that there are still plenty of women out there who are shitty like that, and ever since I started getting into men's studies I've been making efforts to educate other women about some of the ways women are sexist without even really knowing it. There are feminists out here - even crusty old 40-something radical hag feminists like me - who tr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 01:43 PM |
| 10 | Will men be shamed in the future for bit wanting to date "soft" sex workers? (OF models, sugar babes etc.)The vast majority of men don’t want promiscuous women But aren't the huge number of men who frequent sites like OF fine with using the services of those promiscuous women? Why would it be okay to, say, frequent a woman's OF site, and yet also not okay to date the same woman that you've already jerked off to multiple times? And how is this supposed to work - you don't want promiscuous women, but yet you all seem to want sex all the time, so where are all of these virtuous women going to be found?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 01:32 PM |
| 3 | Men shouldn't show their emotions to womenSo what is your plan? You seem to be saying that women aren't worth dealing with whatsoever, so how do you see all of this working for you in the long term? I'm genuinely asking, not setting you up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 01:19 PM |
| -6 | Men shouldn't show their emotions to womenI mean, guess what - those are the risks of getting involved with someone. That's why relationships feel so scary sometimes, you're taking a risk. If a guy won't open up at all, then he really shouldn't be getting intimately involved with anyone unless they know that's his plan or the person prefers an emotional dud. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 01:16 PM |
| 2 | why are men fighting and dying in ukraine exactly?By all means - go over to Russia and fight the evil feminist empire. I'm sure Prigozhin would have you, and the Russian army is top notch, too. You may want to bring some ammo with you from the States, though. I think it's a great idea, and I really admire your dedication. До свидания, друг! | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 01:07 PM |
| 2 | Men shouldn't show their emotions to womenYes, I do understand what he's saying, and I don't think he's deliberately insulting men at all. But he's reinforcing one of the worst problems that men have and that is killing them in droves - suppressing emotion due to fear of rejection. I honestly have to wonder why a man would even bother with a relationship at all if they're going to try to live withholding their emotions from their partner. What is the point? If that's really the way you feel, then you probably just shouldn't date at all … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 01:03 PM |
| 1 | Men shouldn't show their emotions to womenWhy is saying women were relegated to subhuman status pathetic? Aristotle believed that females were deformed males who would never reach full human potential, and that was how it stayed in western civ for a very long time. We say that phrases such as "all men are created equal" use men as a generic term to encompass everyone, but it is a relic of the times when women simply were not considered to be capable of participating in public life. One of my biggest pet peeves about the angry guys in th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 10:31 AM |
| 1 | Men shouldn't show their emotions to womenI think the notion that women don't like vulnerable men comes from fear of intimacy more than reality. If you tell yourself women don't really like it, then you don't have to deal with confronting that fear. And it's not about us feeling special because a guy shares his feelings, it's about us simply wanting to know, understand, and support you. Or because we can tell something is bothering you - sometimes before you even know yourself. And sometimes it's because we're tired of you being a crabb… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 10:22 AM |
| 6 | Men shouldn't show their emotions to womenI know, and it is tragic. But also crazy-making. The influencers really piss me off, bc they pretend to care about these men and then fill their heads with the exact same shit that fucked them up in the first place. They're a fucking disgrace. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 10:00 AM |
| 4 | Men shouldn't show their emotions to womenWhy would I want to bother dating a man who won't let me love all of him? If he holds back/controls his emotions all the time, then really he's putting up a false front, pretending he's something he's really not. If a man can't trust me with his authentic emotional self, then why would he even want to be in a relationship with me? I don't want a half-ass man, I want all of him - good and bad. That's what it's about, right? What - I'm going to ask him to support me through my ups and downs, but t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 09:22 AM |
| -1 | We have always lived, and still lived, under a patriarchal social order that privileges men over women...I mean, the title of the post is true, but the reality is that patriarchy harms men, too. If we don't take that into consideration and focus only on how it harms women, then it's not gonna work. If we want gender equality, then men are a part of that by definition. And, if nothing else, if men aren't liberated, women won't be, either. | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 08:33 AM |
| -1 | What do you guys think of racist IR pornography?Every time we interact with someone there is some kind of emotional response going on, even if we're not consciously aware of it. Emotions are a way we communicate, like crying when we're sad or laughing at someone's joke, and a means of self preservation, like feeling fear in the face of a threat. They're a fundamental part of how we navigate the world. They aren't things we can just decide to have or not have. We can refuse to acknowledge them, or they may be so slight as to never escape our s… | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 08:14 AM |
| 2 | What do you guys think of racist IR pornography?A) It's one of the most popular categories of porn, which makes it part of the culture, not merely a fetish. B) If it is a fetish, it's fetishizing black men. It's turning a human being who has dark skin into an avatar of white people's idea of an uncivilized, animalistic brute for the purposes of supposedly degrading another human being who has light skin. Even if you think you're not racist, IR porn is racist as fuck and would never exist to this degree except in a white supremacist society. B… | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 08:04 AM |
| 7 | Do you think a mans politics can keep him from getting laid?It's pretty hard to simultaneously hide all of the white supremacy, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, Christo-fascism, and a conspiratorial understanding of the world and history that sounds like it originated in a 4chan meme. Trust me - I live in a rural area of a red state, and you guys give yourselves away in conversation in tons of little ways that you don't realize. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 07:21 AM |
| 0 | Men are attracted to narcissistic and BPD women because they are also hypersexual, not because of their personality.don't understand the guys here who claim they just want a doormat bangmaid who never speaks her mind or is "peaceful". Ya, I don't get this either. It makes me think of the people (usually men) who say they want totally casual, emotion-free sex. Aside from the fact that it's impossible to have an interaction with another human that is entirely devoid of emotional content, it's just like...why do you need to turn the other person into a nonentity? Why do you need to strip the intimacy out of one … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 06:35 AM |
| 2 | Men are attracted to narcissistic and BPD women because they are also hypersexual, not because of their personality.Female BPD here too, also in a stable marriage now - it's nice to see someone else doing so well, too!! I have a cheat code, though, because I married a psych nurse! :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 06:20 AM |
| 1 | Men are attracted to narcissistic and BPD women because they are also hypersexual, not because of their personality.Idk, that's probably part of it. I'm a woman with BPD (I'm a quiet BPD, which isn't an official appellation but we use it to mean a BPD who internalizes a lot of their emotional turmoil), and there are probably other factors, too. We tend to be very charismatic when we're "on," we get very passionate about things and can sweep other people up with us. And, even though it can get wicked unhealthy, no one will ever love you as totally and intensely as a BPD. Just don't try to leave us, lol! BPD is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 06:16 AM |
| 3 | Are women who are single are involuntarily celibate like men? Because many people points out these when talking about 1/3rd of young men being virgin involuntarily.testosterone is the primary hormone which is responsible for the pursuit of sexual gratification Not quite true - they've found that estrogen also plays an important part in the male sex drive, but they don't know how or why. I was really surprised by that, even though I know how important estrogen is for humans in general. And they don't know how testosterone works, either, or exactly what it does. It's often blamed for aggression, but there isn't any evidence for that. Men's testosterone rises… | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 05:27 AM |
| -1 | The absurd idea of "weaponized incompetence"Idk, I think this is one of those concepts like emotional labor - they're difficult for men to understand because part of the issue is obliviousness, which isn't a deliberate state of mind. If you're not used to doing something, then you're not going to think about it. It effectively doesn't exist. Women pick up on it easily (I was like omg - there's a term for that?!) because we are on the receiving end. It's probably kinda like when I had to learn about white privilege. It's basically invisibl… | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 04:42 AM |
| 7 | Do older men really find younger women attractive?Would most have sex with them if they had the opportunity ?I disagree. I'm 45 and find some men in their 20s or even late teens attractive. I just wouldn't date or sleep with them, because the age gap is too big. I'd feel gross, and I'd most likely be annoyed with them because I'd be much more mature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 04:19 AM |
| 0 | What do you guys think of racist IR pornography?Or just stop defining masculinity by sex. It seems like that's all it's about now, it's devolved into the lowest common denominator. And the sex most seem to want is just empty self-gratification. There is this idea that one can have sex without any emotional involvement, which is just not a thing. There are emotions at play in every human interaction - that's why they exist. It's such a vacuous mindset - no wonder so many are struggling with loneliness. | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 04:12 AM |
| 1 | What do you guys think of racist IR pornography?It's a remnant of slavery and white men's obsession with their fear of their black property having sex with their female property. This lived in men's heads because: White men raped female slaves on a routine basis, and often enslaved their own children (the ultimate in free labor) or sold them elsewhere. White men treated black women as literal breeding stock, who were less than human, but good enough to stick their dick in. Because of this abhorrent practice, white men's guilty consciences cau… | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 03:55 AM |
| 1 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?I support people being their authentic selves, period. Especially men, who have a much more limited range of "acceptable" traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 03:36 AM |
| 0 | Do you think a mans politics can keep him from getting laid?As a woman I fucking hate this. Get a damn spine! My MIL is like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 03:34 AM |
| 6 | Do you think a mans politics can keep him from getting laid?Yes. Didn't used to be like this, but it is now. I wouldn't even go on a first date with a man who was right-wing, Republican, Christian, or who voted for Trump. Tbh, I'm not sure why any woman would. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 03:29 AM |
| 0 | Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry?Thank you so much for this lovely comment! And yes - Id love to have more badass connections with more men, bring it on!! Message me if you want to chat, I'd love to hear more of your thoughts. I get so hopeful when I meet men who are willing to have civil, thoughtful conversations about this! | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 03:24 AM |
| 2 | What's gone wrong for men, and the thing that can fix themHey there! I'm sorry I still haven't responded to you, my shit got a little hectic. My husband has Crohn's disease and I had to take him to the hospital, but everything is fine. I was wondering if we could take this into a chat? | /r/MensRights | 07/07/23 02:01 AM |
| 4 | Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry?Whatever - I owe you a debt of gratitude for helping me get an insight into my behavior that has changed me for the better. No shit. Hate me if you want, but I'm gonna thank you anyway because it's what I owe you. Idk what it was about your first point in a previous comment, but it sent me on a train of thought that ended in the realization that I have only been being honest with guys in these subs about my anger, about my frustration and resentment. I feel those things for good reasons, but som… | /r/MensRights | 06/07/23 02:03 AM |
| 1 | Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry?I was unsure about how to answer your question, because I didn't want to reinforce any of the expectations that are currently put on men that hurt them. Like, I didn't want to say "I love men's strength," because men already get shamed too much for revealing a weakness. I don't need or want a man to be strong all the time, because he wouldn't be being honest with me. He wouldn't be letting me love his entire self. My husband has bawled in front of me before, he's been so severely ill that I had … | /r/MensRights | 06/07/23 01:37 AM |
| 2 | Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry?Ooooh, a challenge! You're confident because you can't see my bookshelf or hear my husband complain about my thriftbooks spending, lol...Okay, I'm going to go rummage. | /r/MensRights | 06/07/23 12:51 AM |
| 1 | Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry?Hmmm...okay, this is just my personal experience etc: I love men's big hands. When my husband caresses me, his hands feel really large and powerful, but I think it's partly because he's holding them back and using them so gently. It's such a comforting, reassuring feeling. I work in healthcare, and I fucking LOVE working with men. I'm gonna flaunt my internalized misogyny here, so don't tell twoxchromosomes: a lot of times the women in my profession can be super shitty and passive aggressive and… | /r/MensRights | 06/07/23 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry?Omg, my book nerdiness is on overdrive right now!! Thank you! Are you up for the swap? | /r/MensRights | 06/07/23 12:17 AM |
| 5 | Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry?Goddamnit, you're the second man that has done this to me today!!! I wish I could reach through your screen and hug the shit out of you right now. It feels really good to see that you responded positively, and especially that you feel a little more hopeful now. I'm having a hard time finding that myself lately, but you helped me out, too! Thank you! My night is made!! | /r/MensRights | 05/07/23 11:20 PM |
| 2 | Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry?No, I can feel and mean all of this at the same time. That's one of the advantages of being a woman - I can just own that shit because we're allowed to be in touch with our feelings and I know you'll think I'm crazy or lying anyway :) All of this shit is so complicated, it touches on some super personal topics, and social media is a shit place for nuanced conversation. But I often feel like I love and hate men at the same time. I hate some of the things men do and say, but the majority of my clo… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/23 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry?Your first point made me see that in a different perspective, and I think I am changing my mind. (I have to mull these things over for a bit.) I'm sorry that I was so shitty with that particular remark. women daring to criticize men". So uhh, mask off, huh? When MRAs point out that feminism is anti-man, Wait, wait - criticizing men is somehow being anti-man? It seems like that would result in my being incapable of leveling any criticism at men whatsoever lest I be using hate speech...does that s… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/23 10:41 PM |
| 0 | Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry?Then give me a list of titles you've read so that I can catch up. We can swap. I'm dead serious. I'll read anything you want. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/23 10:28 PM |
| -1 | Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry?That's okay - if he doesn't read it or doesn't care, maybe some other guy will feel differently. I really do care. I'm not going to give up on you guys. We can cuss each other out, guys can hate me and call me names, but that shit is kinda old hat and it isn't going to scare me away. I'm not gonna give up. Whatever our disagreements are here on the bullshit internet, men are important. Men fucking matter. Their pain matters, and their happiness matters, and we've left them to deal with both alon… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/23 10:25 PM |
| -13 | Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry?You need receipts for misogyny? Watch porn. Deciding that you don't believe in the existence or prevalence of misogyny - or whatever obvious, quotidian thing is being discussed, like Mexico being south of the US border - isn't enough to make you right, it just ends up compounding your problems. What is it that you think you lose by simply saying "ya, there is a lot of misogyny in the world." Here, watch: men not only deal with gendered injustices, they're further shit on by the fact that they've… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/23 10:03 PM |
| -16 | Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry?Sure it existed! But it was inflicted by men higher on the hierarchy upon the men below. Women didn't have the fucking POWER to institute misandry! We were fucking property until after the word appeared! You're not right just because you're ignorant about the history in question. You guys try to run this shit all the time, and you look like Archie Bunker. Why don't you understand that learning about and accepting historical reality will actually HELP you?? How can you develop intelligent solutio… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/23 09:38 PM |
| 2 | What's gone wrong for men, and the thing that can fix themIt's going to take me some time to give you the answer this comment deserves, but I wanted to stop by and tell you that I just want to reach through your screen and hug the shit out of you right now. Thank you. :) | /r/MensRights | 05/07/23 07:21 PM |
| -4 | Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry?Had to save this one! | /r/MensRights | 05/07/23 07:02 PM |
| -29 | Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry?Except that there is ample evidence that a whole metric shit ton of misogyny has existed for several thousand years. There are also plenty of novel words that pop up in the English language due to new developments, too, like cellphone and styrofoam. The Oxford English Dictionary adds brand new words every year. We don't actually know if the concept of misandry was around before 1878, but the dates are suggestive. Additionally, most of what men call "misandry" is criticism, not hate speech. Just … | /r/MensRights | 05/07/23 07:02 PM |
| -24 | Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry?And I recall reading old texts which have women hating men, from before the 1870s. Oh really? Then you won't mind providing some links to the receipts. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/23 06:45 PM |
| -52 | Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry?Because misandry wasn't even a word until 1878 - a mere 30 years after feminism kicked off in America. Isn't that a funny coincidence?! It's almost like it didn't exist until men started getting butthurt because women were dating to criticize them. Edit: r/steveclintonttv made me see the whole butthurt comment in a different way, and I realized that I was wrong and that I owe y'all an apology. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/23 06:31 PM |
| 2 | Fragile female egoThis has inspired me to do oculomotor calisthenics in order to expand the sweep of my eye-rolling. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/23 06:09 PM |
| -1 | What's gone wrong for men, and the thing that can fix themGod, this is so profoundly sad. Feminists have been trying to help men since the very beginning, but there has always been this massive resistance. So now women have been changing, learning about our situation, developing and trying solutions, gaining a sense of competency and a very general collective identity, but men are still stuck in mid-1800s gender norms that are seriously only worsening men's problems now. The solution isn't for men to construct an even tinier, more miserable man box for… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/23 11:56 AM |
| 2 | What's gone wrong for men, and the thing that can fix themBut the constant double standard and degradation of men takes a mental toll Radical feminist here, just so you know where I'm coming from. There are definitely double standards that advantage women. There are many ways that patriarchy can advantage women. And men suffer many legitimate injustices that are pretty much entirely neglected by the general public. All of that shit is unacceptable, and men deserve better. While I'm not a fan of what I've been seeing/hearing from a lot of men over the p… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/23 11:22 AM |
| 0 | What's gone wrong for men, and the thing that can fix themFeminists say shit like ‘kill all men Lmao...okay. 1) Receipts, please. 2) It's funny that feminists supposedlysay that, but men do the actual killing. 3) Bats are nocturnal and navigate by sending a bunch of sonar pulses out every second. The thing is that their sonar is so loud that it would deafen the bats if they didn't have these amazing ears. Perfectly in time with their sonar pulses, a membrane snaps over their eardrums for protection. This is a lot of men. They come into a sub full of wo… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/23 11:14 AM |
| 0 | What's gone wrong for men, and the thing that can fix themWow, please direct me to this unicorn subreddit where men are actually honest about themselves and their needs, because every sub I've been in is just full of guys rending their garments and gnashing their teeth about things that are often a) wildly, wildly inaccurate about history, b) hurt feelings, not discrimination or oppression, or c) shit women can't do anything about. It's not productive at all - in fact, it's probably just making them more dysfunctional. I would sincerely appreciate men … | /r/MensRights | 05/07/23 11:02 AM |
| 0 | Understanding Patriarchy and Male Domination through the Free Use sexual fetish/kink.Ya - because men need another one of their excuses that sound like Jordan Peterson made a fascist version of Lost. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/23 09:07 AM |
| 4 | Would you be okay marrying a stay at home husband ?I did, although it only lasted around 1.5 years and then he started working. He loved it bc he hates working, and I loved it bc I'm a bit of a workaholic, and he's a way, way better housekeeper than I am. We met in AA, and at the time he was unemployed and living with his parents. And he has Crohn's disease, too, for all the incels who insist that women are so judgemental, lol. We both ended up going back to school, and, since I graduated and passed my boards first, I went to work and he finishe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 02:02 AM |
| 3 | Who do the really attractive women end up with?Okay, I'm being genuine right now. No internet bullshit, just one human talking to another. Some of the things your saying make me a little worried that you may have some tendencies towards disordered eating. I say this because I had an eating disorder for 15 years, and it was hell on earth. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I had to do a lot of group therapy when i was hospitalized, and we all had the kind of rigid, high expectations, quasi-OCD type of thinking that I see some of in your co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: an enthusiastic 3 or a starfish 10?One of the points of having sex is to be given an orgasm by another person. That's part of what makes it so pleasurable - it's different than the same old masturbation you're used to. Not only that, but giving someone else an orgasm is also pleasurable and hot as hell - it's half of the whole shebang. Can get herself to orgasm? I mean, what do you even think sex is? You just thrust your dick in and out and it's up to her to figure out how to make it feel good? Are you aware that about 80% of wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: an enthusiastic 3 or a starfish 10?can get herself to orgasm LMAO wow...sounds like a really good time, lol...oh man, thanks for making my day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 08:53 PM |
| 3 | Who do the really attractive women end up with?Even the way that you talk about all of this is like you're solving an algebra equation - all of the rating and comparing and ticking of specific little boxes...You're not shopping for a new washing machine, you're talking about finding a human being to be a romantic partner. I see this so much now - men analyzing relationships they might have one day with stats and rating scales and all these calculations that make you sound like you're drafting a fantasy sports team. I mean, it's really, reall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 08:48 PM |
| 8 | Who do the really attractive women end up with?This is exactly what I was going to say. These guys are so empty and shallow. Who the hell would want to date them - wtf would you even be able to talk with them about? "So, that war in Ukraine is really messed up, huh?" "Do you do anal?" "So, um, did you hear all the controversy about the PGA last week?" "Your tits are saggy." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 06:25 PM |
| 3 | Who do the really attractive women end up with?Perhaps with men who recognize that their total value as human beings and as romantic partners doesn't lie solely with their fucking looks? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 06:20 PM |
| 1 | Is the reason why single women are happier than single men because their celibacy is *mostly* a choice?Women aren't taught to center their personal concept of femininity and their entire fucking identities around sex and sexually exploiting men. Men get taught the exact opposite, and internet porn has made it so much worse in a bunch of ways. Women don't have an issue with seeing men as fellow human beings and generally take an actual interest in the lives of the men close to them, so they are more likely to see sex as a mutual activity and something that enhances relationships/intimacy. Men, on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 03:42 PM |
| 1 | At the park earlier when watched by a womanUnbelievable. Anyone but men, huh? Why don't you set up a Google news alert for "pornography" if you're confused about who's to blame. Every single day it is nothing but men getting arrested for child porn. So if men want to feel better out in public, then they need to BE better and hold other men accountable for being better. It's really sickening how so many men will literally sacrifice anything and everything simply to protect their egos and their belief in their own supremacy. It's gross. | /r/MensRights | 04/07/23 02:27 PM |
| 0 | At the park earlier when watched by a womanShe should have been more discreet about it, but I'd be thankful if someone took the time to make sure my kid was okay. If the choice is between someone's feelings getting hurt and a kid getting abducted, the priority should be obvious. Additionally, you escalated things by confronting her about a violation of social etiquette that you took personally, probably because you perceived her actions to be solely about you. To be completely blunt, I find it somewhat disturbing and selfish that so many… | /r/MensRights | 04/07/23 01:52 PM |
| 1 | At the park earlier when watched by a womanI can't believe he said that in public. I have that same feeling I get when I see a really bad standup comedian, kinda embarrassed and uncomfortable on that guy's behalf because he's humiliating himself and might not know it. | /r/MensRights | 04/07/23 01:33 PM |
| 1 | Are women who are single are involuntarily celibate like men? Because many people points out these when talking about 1/3rd of young men being virgin involuntarily.Says a whole lot more about men than it does about women, obese women, that particular woman, or dating apps. | /r/MensRights | 04/07/23 08:17 AM |
| – | What is one thing you would change about male acculturation?I'd end pretty much everything about current mainstream internet porn except the rare times it shows realistic, ostensibly pleasurable, and mutually attentive sex. I've seen a drastic change in men over the past 10 or 15 years, and it's distressing, disappointing, and angering. There are obviously a lot of factors at play, but I am convinced porn has had an enormous role in the development of incels and the increase in misogyny, as well as men's struggles with mental health and loneliness. As a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 07:21 AM |
| 1 | One in three primary schools has no male teachers, report saysjust like it's not a literal impossibility to fantasize about landing a spaceship on the moon Except that landing a spaceship on the moon doesn't depend, by definition, on the lander's lack of consent or control. This has nothing to do with fantasy vs reality. If I imagine a man raping me, I am in control of his actions because I'm making them up! It's not rape if I'm deciding what the man does to me. Seeing as you are unable to do this, this conversation is over. Unfortunately, conversations in… | /r/MensRights | 04/07/23 04:34 AM |
| 1 | One in three primary schools has no male teachers, report saysI do understand the logic you are trying to use. But it fails. If you're not able to see how, then there's no point in me explaining it. Anyway, I wouldn't want to be accused of mansplaining. Just kidding, I don't care. Pathetic. It's not that "there's no point" to you explaining, it's that you can't explain because you know you're wrong. Don't waste my time with this kind of playground trash. Please stop reading more into my comments than is actually there. Don't assume. Don't re-word. Don't gu… | /r/MensRights | 04/07/23 04:05 AM |
| 1 | If men know how other men think then why is it seen as controlling rather than protective to have a say in what clothes ur girls wearsdress appropriately Who gets to define appropriately? If you need a man to regulate what you’re wearing Literally no woman over 8 years old has ever needed this. dress like a slut A) Using the word slut says way more about you than it does about any women you might be talking about. B) Who gets to define what is "slutty?" C) So men will fuck a slut if they get the chance, they jerk off to porn and go to strip clubs in which women deliberately dress and act like very exaggerated sluts, they play … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 03:52 AM |
| 1 | One in three primary schools has no male teachers, report saysOnce again: it is a literal impossibility to fantasize about rape, because the act of fantasizing requires a degree of control that is fundamentally lacking in an actual rape. Fantasy is a completely mental activity and is thus entirely in the fantasizer's control; it can be no other way. Rape by definition is out of someone's control. See, when you pretend not to understand simple logic like that, I start wondering why it's so important for you to believe that women like rape. And I'm not "read… | /r/MensRights | 04/07/23 03:20 AM |
| 1 | If men know how other men think then why is it seen as controlling rather than protective to have a say in what clothes ur girls wearsBecause they're trying to force women to fix men's problem. The problem is not what women choose to wear, the problem is that women/girls are hypersexualized in our culture and men are more or less brainwashed to see them as three fuckholes with an incubator attached. I also think that masculinity has been reduced to being about little more than sex and is otherwise pretty much bankrupt and devoid of substance. Because there are few ways remaining to "be a man" aside from sexual success with wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 03:08 AM |
| 1 | One in three primary schools has no male teachers, report saysthe no.1 fantasy of women (as a group) is rape. Weird huh? Lol, here you go justifying your perceived "right" to rape women. Here's the thing, bozo: it is impossible for women to have a rape fantasy, because rape inherently involves a lack of consent and loss of control. No matter what a woman fantasizes is being done to her, she is still in control of the imagined activity. They are fantasies of domination, not rape. Nice try though. Let me guess - I'm just misinterpreting you, right? Or I'm ju… | /r/MensRights | 04/07/23 02:33 AM |
| 1 | One in three primary schools has no male teachers, report saysThank you for making my day!!! It's so funny that you just "mansplained" rape to me!! The narcissism of men is truly amazing. I have firsthand experience with being raped, as do about half of the women in my life, and the fact that you feel entitled to lecture a total stranger about the topic is genuinely funny. In general, men do not need to be taught that rape is wrong. We know, like deep down in our bones. Really? Then why do so many of you jack off to really fucked up, creepy, violent porn t… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/23 10:20 PM |
| 1 | One in three primary schools has no male teachers, report saysYou really read whatever you want into what I write, don't you. Defending my right to rape???? You don't think what you're saying all the way through. You stop at the point of convenience for men, but you don't keep going. The men who try to invalidate the scope and reality of rape are doing so because they are likely secretly worried or guilty about their past behavior, because they've been taught that men have such high sex drives that they "need" it, because they've seen women portrayed as th… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/23 08:41 PM |
| 1 | One in three primary schools has no male teachers, report saysAll I hear is you defending your "right" to rape women by trying to minimize the problem and - once again - trying to ultimately lay the blame on women. it sounds as if you hate men in general Just taking into consideration the porn that men jerk off to now, which is full of misogynistic and white supremacist violence, why shouldn't I hate them back? Look at how much men hate us. You hate us so much that it makes your fucking dicks hard. Why shouldn't I despise men? And if you only knew how many… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/23 07:52 PM |
| 1 | One in three primary schools has no male teachers, report saysoverwhelming vast majority of war deaths were men That's right. And who killed them before women were allowed in combat? And why have women never done anything like burn hundreds of thousands of men at the stake for "witchcraft?" Do you seriously expect me to take your position seriously? I'm not even going to legitimate your nonsense about female rulers and wars. | /r/MensRights | 03/07/23 07:26 PM |
| 1 | One in three primary schools has no male teachers, report saysYou are the one saying men are savages, who have raped women for thousands of years. This isn't my opinion, it is a fact and it continues to this day. One in four women have been raped/assaulted in America, and one in nine molested. That means there are a whole fuck of a lot of guilty men walking free in the world right now - and yet you dare to tell me that women "instinctively sense their role is to civilize men??" You are so deeply clueless about the reality of women's lives, of women's basic… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/23 07:23 PM |
| 1 | One in three primary schools has no male teachers, report sayswomen perpetuate Patriarchy - both personally and by forcing men into Patriarchal roles. Yes, women DO perpetuate patriarchy, and feminists talk/write about this extensively, but that isn't what you said. You said that women were the architects of patriarchy, which is much different. That's just your accidental confession of your belief - conscious or not - that women are more powerful and effective than men. You have some serious issues if you genuinely believe that men excuse themselves in the… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/23 07:15 PM |
| 1 | One in three primary schools has no male teachers, report saysWomen instinctively know that their role in life is to civilise men So what you're saying here is that men are little more than savages who would be killing each other naked in the woods without women to teach them how to be human? It's not just a sad opinion of men, it's what men say to create a permission structure that allows them to justify abusing, raping, and murdering women, children, and other men. They just can't help themselves, they're "naturally" that way. Furthermore, it's yet anoth… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/23 06:50 PM |
| 1 | One in three primary schools has no male teachers, report saysI come back with books that point out that women were NOT specifically oppressed by men, quite the opposite actually, and one of the books quite rightly elaborates that women are the architects of their own beloved Patriarchy. If these are the conclusions you drew from whatever you read, you're either suffering from confirmation bias or poor reading comprehension. Women had to consent to and cooperate with patriarchy for it to be established, but in no way were they the "architects." That is lau… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/23 06:25 PM |
| 1 | One in three primary schools has no male teachers, report saysIf you actually read them, then you'd know they don't invalidate my arguments. | /r/MensRights | 03/07/23 05:54 PM |
| – | Average men should NOT have access to casual sexAs a woman, I'll decide who I want to have sex with,be they average or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 09:26 PM |
| -1 | One in three primary schools has no male teachers, report saysNo, i didn't - your point requires an oversimplification of everything that happened around the multiple issues at hand here. The only mind-fuck going on is how confident you are in your ignorance. Stop wasting my time with this shit and go read a book. | /r/MensRights | 10/06/23 05:30 PM |
| -1 | One in three primary schools has no male teachers, report sayshow do someone even reconcile that inside their heads? They actually take the time to learn about women's history, which is largely absent from what is commonly regarded as US/world history, and realize that these issues are actually a lot older and more complex than they've always assumed. I don't know why so many men feel like their own ignorance should be accepted as a legitimate argument in a debate. It's not my problem if you want to get butthurt because you don't know what you're talking a… | /r/MensRights | 10/06/23 05:21 PM |
| – | Most boys and girls were mostly raised by women who conditioned them to worship women, especially when it comes to dating.Research has also shown that both men and women feel better and less lonely after talking to women - I like to think of this as one of our superpowers :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 02:50 PM |
| 1 | One in three primary schools has no male teachers, report saysWomen have worked since the dawn of time, the idea that women didn't work before the '60s is a load of old bollocks. The article didn't say women never worked, it said "by the time women began entering the work force in large numbers..." I'm so tired of trying to debate men who a) frankly don't know what they're talking about, and b) are intellectually dishonest. As I've told other people: if men were so disadvantaged and oppressed by society, then you would have made the effort to know what you… | /r/MensRights | 09/06/23 09:57 PM |
| 2 | One in three primary schools has no male teachers, report saysThe first question should be "Why is this happening?" Here are some reasons. From the linked article: Jobs dominated by women pay less on average than those with higher proportions of men, and studies have shown that these careers tend to enjoy less prestige as well. Although teaching was once a career for men, by the time women began entering the work force in large numbers in the 1960s, teaching, along with nursing, was one of very few careers open to them. But despite inroads that women have … | /r/MensRights | 09/06/23 07:54 PM |
| 7 | Patriarchy unironically exist because of womenActually, many of the traits of traditional masculinity are a performance intended for other men and have very little to do with women, who are seen as pawns or prizes. Not only is masculinity a precarious identity that can never really be achieved and that has to be proven over and over again, men are encouraged to constantly compete with one another for status. Women are the easiest means with which a man can both prove his masculinity to other men and increase his status - also in the eyes of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 06:43 PM |
| 2 | Older women who complain about age gap relationships are just jealousMen still haven't realized that we just don't care that much about their dicks, either. We should start putting up billboards: 80% of women can't have an orgasm with nothing but a thrusting penis, and about 85% of them don't give a shit about size. Men are the ones who place all the importance on penises, it's ridiculous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 05:15 PM |
| 2 | The Secret Service is tracking what Incels are doing online, This is not a good fit for any society or human condition.Said the white woman living in a 1st world country. How fucking rich. Whataboutism isn't a defense or a rebuttal. All you're doing is trying to say that I'm just as guilty as you are. If you were really concerned about the well-being of men in general, you would be investing time in understanding exactly how their present situation came about. You would be looking at history to see how the expectations placed on men have changed, you would be learning about how class and race influence men's liv… | /r/MensRights | 09/06/23 05:08 PM |
| 1 | Paper explains that men's shorter life-expectancy is not important in health equity.First of all, let me preface by saying that men are equally valuable and important to society and should be treated as such - so this comment is not in any way advocating for their neglect. Anyway, while they should be devoting as much research to this pursuit as they would for women, there may only be so much they can do to address men's shorter lifespans because, due to their more complex development in the womb, males are more prone to a wide variety of health problems. They run the gamut fro… | /r/MensRights | 09/06/23 04:32 PM |
| 14 | Older women who complain about age gap relationships are just jealousI think the more likely explanation is actually that as we grow, age, and learn from our own mistakes, we become more aware of ways that women are exploited and are concerned for the well-being of young women in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 06:03 PM |
| 2 | The Secret Service is tracking what Incels are doing online, This is not a good fit for any society or human condition.From historic times, men have the goal of studying, working hard, and becoming a desirable man so that a woman can 'pick' you. Women weren't "picking" anyone until around the late 1800s, when arranged marriages were finally replaced by companionate marriage. Prior to this development, marriage was a transfer of property from one man to another: a woman was first owned by her father, who chose the man she would marry, after which she was considered the property of her husband, as were any childre… | /r/MensRights | 08/06/23 03:41 PM |
| -1 | The Secret Service is tracking what Incels are doing online, This is not a good fit for any society or human condition.85% of what you guys complain about is just a result of your own ignorance. If gender issues actually affected you, you would be more well informed than this. But, since you've never really been systematically discriminated against simply bc you're male, it's never been necessary for you to learn anything about gender theory, men's studies, feminist theory, etc. You're privileged to be this ignorant. I personally don't care what you do or don't believe, but as long as you remain deliberately ign… | /r/MensRights | 08/06/23 12:56 PM |
| 1 | Marriage Rates in the USAI'm willing to believe your personal experience. In my circle of friends, both the husbands and wives have to work anyway, so it's kind of just a given. No one seems to worry too much about who is earning more. When I met my husband, he was unemployed with a chronic illness and living with his parents. We went to nursing school together and i graduated a semester early, bought us a house, and supported him while he finished studying for his boards. Then HE went to work and, after a couple of yea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Marriage Rates in the USAWhy do you guys keep on insisting that all the time?? It's so fucking weird - do you think that's all you have left to offer or something, an income? Why would women care about your income -- HELLOOOOO, checked the workforce lately? We're earning just fine ourselves. I can't get over how fucking weird it is that you guys can't let this shit go when it's been dead for DECADES already!! Not only are you implying that women are golddiggers, but you're saying men have no purpose beyond a paycheck. Y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 02:12 PM |
| 2 | It's interesting how some women come to men's spaces and say "I feel your pain, it's not fair" yet they don't do jack in their own spheres?We talk about men's issues quite frequently in feminist subs, but it's often mingled in with everything else and probably hard to distinguish from a glance. I think what matters most is what we do and the language we use when we're not on the internet. Politely pointing out anti-male comments people have made has given me the chance to explain that something called "men's rights" even exists, and I've always had positive results. One of the reasons that radical feminism appealed to me was becaus… | /r/MensRights | 07/06/23 03:06 AM |
| 2 | Marriage Rates in the USAI'm an average woman who makes more than enough money to live singly but who married an average man anyway because he's my best friend and I love him. He has an income, too, but that has nothing to do with why I married him - in fact, when we met he was unemployed and living at home with his parents, lol. I married him because he is kind, funny, intelligent, curious, has his own interests, has a good relationship with his mom (one of the two things I used to pay attention to if I was considering… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 10:55 PM |
| – | Men who engage in sexual tourism with a GDP less than half of their country's are abnormalThey're disgusting and pathetic, and I have absolutely no respect for any man who pays to rape women - because that's exactly what prostitution is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 10:21 PM |
| – | male and female attraction are fundamentally different and that’s why things like dating apps flat out don’t workThanks for taking the time to share your thoughts with me about this, it's refreshing! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 08:55 PM |
| – | male and female attraction are fundamentally different and that’s why things like dating apps flat out don’t workMan, that sucks...what the hell are we gonna do about this mess? I feel for the good men out there, and i MISS the way I used to feel about men. And honestly i feel a little gutted when I think about all the good male friends I've had, because now i look back and i wonder what they really thought about me, who they really were. I find current porn so disturbing because of the violence directed at women that I almost feel like i have never really known ANY man. How can they be friendly to us to o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 05:31 PM |
| 1 | Women’s hypersensitivity to awkwardness and lack of social prowess/dominance is not rooted in fear or some “survival instinct” they’ve evolved in response to dangerous men, but rather in their privilege and abundanceWell, when you have the chance to try that out, you let me know how it goes. It sounds like something an influencer said to sell supplements or something, or bc he was butthurt about women being multi-orgasmic. Which not all women are, btw. We have a refractory period, too, where nothing much can really happen bc our bodies are kinda resetting. It's just not as long as men's. I know after i cum, my clit is so sensitive i can't stand to have it touched at all for about a minute, then it's basical… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Women’s hypersensitivity to awkwardness and lack of social prowess/dominance is not rooted in fear or some “survival instinct” they’ve evolved in response to dangerous men, but rather in their privilege and abundanceI'm pretty sure that's not how penises work. But it would be fun!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 01:30 AM |
| 5 | Women’s hypersensitivity to awkwardness and lack of social prowess/dominance is not rooted in fear or some “survival instinct” they’ve evolved in response to dangerous men, but rather in their privilege and abundancehigher drive to look for sexual partners "Similar but different drives," may be more accurate. Women's capacity to be multi-orgasmic is now believed to serve the function of getting women to mate with multiple partners; if one guy finished before she did, she could go finish up with someone else, and someone else, and someone else...In this way women could get a diverse array of DNA and hopefully healthy offspring. There are a few other female mammals who do this, but the only one I can remember… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 06:43 PM |
| – | Women’s hypersensitivity to awkwardness and lack of social prowess/dominance is not rooted in fear or some “survival instinct” they’ve evolved in response to dangerous men, but rather in their privilege and abundanceBless your heart, you sweet summer child. What must it be like to go through the world with such oblivious confidence? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Is it me, or has toxicity towards men been normalized?And why would i hurt my hypothetical wife and children? That's exactly what women would like to know, too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 08:09 AM |
| 2 | Is it me, or has toxicity towards men been normalized?It's just funny that the biggest thing modern women can do is not date men anymore I could definitely come up with more effective ideas... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 08:04 AM |
| 3 | Is it me, or has toxicity towards men been normalized?In other words, according to them, we are the "oppressor class" and everything that goes on between us must be filtered through that lens. It frankly dulls whatever empathy women would have for men's issues, and makes these problems harder for them to feel sympathy for. This tells me that you've never actually read any serious work written by a feminist, because this is not at all the position that feminism takes. This is what grifters like Peterson and Tate spoonfeed you in order to fuel your r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 09:21 PM |
| 2 | male and female attraction are fundamentally different and that’s why things like dating apps flat out don’t workI'm not gonna apologize for being angry. Women have every right in the world to be righteously fucking furious, and we are. Men have always tried to dismiss our anger since it makes them uncomfortable (like the paternalistic "Dang, you ok?" You might as well have repped the 19th century, called me hysterical, and steered me towards a fainting couch. No thanks; i got this.) We're showing too much agency, threatening to encroach on men's monopoly over gendered violence. But the porn you guys jerk … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 08:03 PM |
| 2 | male and female attraction are fundamentally different and that’s why things like dating apps flat out don’t workAll I see is you trying to justify why men are allowed to rape women, it seems because that's their nature or they can't help it. I call absolute bullshit on this, and here is why: Rape is not something that men have always done because of our primate roots or whatever. There is all kinds of evidence that rape in many indigenous American tribes - if not most - was extremely rare. Female colonists who were captured by them consistently reported that they were treated very well and were never both… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Is it me, or has toxicity towards men been normalized?I can't even think about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 03:59 PM |
| 2 | male and female attraction are fundamentally different and that’s why things like dating apps flat out don’t workrecent waves of feminism has promoted a lot of the hookup culture and even glorified it. Wrongly. So much yes!! brainwashed a lot of women in giving away their trump card (sex) to men way too easily when that's a power they need to secure relationships with quality men. I strongly disagree with both your language and implications here. Sex is not our "trump card," that is how men prefer to perceive it because that's all most of them care about. Saying that women's sexuality is a trump card is sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 02:04 PM |
| 3 | Is it me, or has toxicity towards men been normalized?God forbid a man ever feels offended Lol, how would I even tell? All men do anymore is flip their shit over every little thing that makes them even slightly uncomfortable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 01:44 PM |
| – | Is it me, or has toxicity towards men been normalized?😂😂😂😂😂 If a frightened little fascist twat hates me, then I must be a pretty decent person. Yaaaaayyyyy!!! Thank you for that, friend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Is it me, or has toxicity towards men been normalized?Lol... Imagine blaming men for the toxcity towards them, the Like women get blamed for being beaten, raped, or murdered? Get the fuck out of here. I cannot believe how soft men are - you can't handle any kind of adversity whatsoever. I'm done entertaining these "bUt I'm ThE ReAl ViCtIm!!!" statements unless the man in question will simply acknowledge that women's experiences with men are oftentimes not that freaking great - we have literally been telling men **the same fucking things for almost … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 01:04 PM |
| 1 | Is it me, or has toxicity towards men been normalized?Ooooooooo! What a big tough man you are, threatening me with rape like the boring, tiresome remora that men like you are. Maybe you didn't hear me the first time, bozo: women aren't afraid of you cowards anymore. What - you're gonna start raping and murdering us? You resentful little turds have been doing that for thousands of fucking years and yet HERE WE ALL ARE. So do you think you're threatening us? This kind of petulant bullshit is what we expect from men like you anymore. Once again, for t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 11:32 AM |
| 4 | Is it me, or has toxicity towards men been normalized?i can't believe you think with no patriarchy mens authentic selves would be going to picnics and reading books Nice straw man. Saying that "men do bad stuff because they feel like it" lets men off the hook by ignoring the details. Who did they do this "bad stuff" to? Most often to their wives/partners and children. How bad was the "stuff?" Was it as bad as white slaveowners routinely raping black women and enslaving or selling their own fucking children? Because that's a lot different than, say,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 09:56 AM |
| – | Is it me, or has toxicity towards men been normalized?If you have to resort to threats/intimidation, then you've lost the argument. Women see through men like you now, we have your number. You can beat your chest all you want, but we aren't afraid of you anymore. Btw - I'd love to hike the mountains of Afghanistan. But you're not going to get rid of me or any of my sisters that easily. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 09:28 AM |
| 2 | Is it me, or has toxicity towards men been normalized?So you saying since some guys are rapist, all guys deserve to have society behave toxic towards them, and that they are wrong for questioning it? No, I'm not saying all men deserve to be punished because some men rape. But how many men are rapists? One in every four women has been raped, myself included; does that mean that 25% of men are rapists? But what about all the rapes that never get reported? And while we can speculate about 25% of men perhaps being rapists, what about all the men that a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 08:09 AM |
| -2 | Is it me, or has toxicity towards men been normalized?Maybe try taking women seriously for once. We've been saying the same things over and over since feminism started in 1848, and men have fought us every single step of the way. Now that life has gotten uncomfortable for men (welcome to where the rest of us have been since time immemorial) you guys come complaining about how everyone is pissed at you and expecting people to feel bad. We're supposed to listen to you now, take you seriously, and work with you to make things better? Most of the men I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 06:33 AM |
| -3 | Is it me, or has toxicity towards men been normalized?What a lot of men claim is toxicity/misandry are often legitimate complaints about men's shitty behavior that men are too fragile and defensive to deal with. Criticism is not toxicity, whether your feelings are hurt or not. Feminist philosopher Kate Manne coined the term himpathy for society's tendency to show excessive consideration to men regardless of who they hurt or how badly. I have a lot of sympathy and compassion for men, but they have to acknowledge how their attitudes and behaviors are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 05:58 AM |
| 3 | If women aren't sexually motivated like men are, what motivates sex drive in women who enjoy sex with multiple different people? If not those people being endowed with certain bodily blessings?Seriously? Lol...Guess I'll chalk one up for me, then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 01:54 AM |
| 1 | If women aren't sexually motivated like men are, what motivates sex drive in women who enjoy sex with multiple different people? If not those people being endowed with certain bodily blessings?Most women like sex just as much as men do. The whole bit about men having such higher sex drives than women is a myth, and it needs to die. Women have several very good reasons to turn down sex. There is always the risk of pregnancy, first of all. When we choose to be sexually intimate with a man we also run the risk of being assaulted, raped, or even murdered, since the men that we already know are much more likely to do those things to us. Additionally, some women don't like to have sex on th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 01:50 AM |
| 2 | male and female attraction are fundamentally different and that’s why things like dating apps flat out don’t workI think that's really astute. The thing is that we can't tell which man might hurt us just by looking, you know? We have to be super careful. One in four of us will get raped/assaulted anyway. Another thing I'm hearing from a LOT of women is that they don't want to date men because they're disgusted by the porn they watch, it makes the men absolute shit in bed, and what really scares and infuriates me is that in the past few months I've seen heard several women say that men started choking them … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 01:09 AM |
| 1 | CMV: a douchebag is the male version a bimboHow about we just stop slipping misogynistic insults into these kind of quips altogether? Almost every insult that men invoke against one another double as degrading to women as well. Bitch, pussy, motherfucker, cunt, bastard, son of a bitch, and all of the sophomoric homophobic slurs. And what are those insults implying? That the insulted man is no better than a women. In other words, the worst thing you can call a man is a woman. But by all means - keep telling me how women are already equal i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/23 10:56 PM |
| 1 | male and female attraction are fundamentally different and that’s why things like dating apps flat out don’t workWhy don't men focus instead on WHY women are leaving dating apps in droves? That's the real question here, if men would have the vagina to ask themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/23 09:57 PM |
| 1 | male and female attraction are fundamentally different and that’s why things like dating apps flat out don’t workSigh...women are just as aroused by visual stimuli as men are. In fact, women get turned on by a much wider array of images and sexual acts than men do. The reason our attraction appears to be different is because men basically see women as vending machines that exist to meet their needs from moment to moment - usually by affirming their "masculinity." We are things that dispense validation. All the garbage about men having these super high sex drives is all bullshit. What men want is validation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/23 09:56 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is nothing that women are, say, or do that makes a man more or less masculine.If they treat me with respect, I treat them with respect. How about we just treat people with respect, period? Social interactions aren't strictly quid pro quo, they are most often relational - they build relationships. I hate how relentlessly selfish and transactional the internet has made everyone - including me, this is just a general complaint. How about we just show everyone the same respect that we'd appreciate being shown ourselves, and then we can always simply walk away if someone doesn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/23 06:53 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Many acts that would get a man labled as "Toxic" are tolerated when women do it.Yes, unfortunately there are still plenty of those women. I suspect the majority of them reside in the demographic alongside the 50% of white women who voted for Trump - 50% of whom actually think that they're "feminists," whatever in the fuck they think that means. My definition of feminism doesn't include "colluding with the patriarchy to oppress other women because I'm a terrified, pants-pissing bigot," but maybe I just missed that particular Dworkin quote, lol... (Just to clarify, I'm a whit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/23 03:24 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is nothing that women are, say, or do that makes a man more or less masculine.Maybe when men give a single solitary fuck about women's suffering - except our suffering gets your fucking dicks hard and you call it porn. You jerk off to our misery, so pardon me if I'm less than sympathetic for men's psychic anguish. I'm so sick of listening to men whine and pout about their problems without doing any fucking introspection to see how your behavior affects everyone else! It's selfish, narcissistic bullshit, and it's a slap in the fucking face to women who are actually losing … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 01:10 PM |
| -7 | CMV: There is nothing that women are, say, or do that makes a man more or less masculine.like a vagina is the stamp of approval men need to be taken seriously by society. That is something that men did to themselves. Thank patriarchy. Those are the kinds of "privileges" you're fighting so hard to keep. How long are you guys going to keep bashing your heads up against this wall before you finally realize that you've made your own prison? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 08:45 AM |
| -1 | CMV: There is nothing that women are, say, or do that makes a man more or less masculine.What is your point? "Women are wonderful and men are trash"?? No. My point was that I didn't just "jump right to rape and murder" in my comment above, but rather that too many men often do. I never said that men don't struggle with injustices, nor did I claim that women have no issues of our own to address. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 12:49 AM |
| 2 | CMV: There is nothing that women are, say, or do that makes a man more or less masculine.1 in 4 women have been the victim of sexual assault. 1 in 9 women were molested as children - the vast majority by family members, i.e. men they should be able to trust. Every day in America, 4 women are murdered by their current or former male domestic partner. Just because you don't know shit about the reality of women's lives doesn't mean that I need therapy. You should be ashamed of yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 12:33 AM |
| 2 | Question for women: Have you ever felt toxic?Thanks! It feels really good to have my feelings - especially my anger - validated by a man (especially on the internet!) This is all i think many women want - for men to listen to us, acknowledge when we speak the truth, and validate our feelings. They don't have to go out and change the world, they only have to take us seriously. This is just my opinion, but I think it takes a much "bigger" and better man to have conversations like these with women, because you're making yourself vulnerable to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 12:30 AM |
| -1 | CMV: There is nothing that women are, say, or do that makes a man more or less masculine.I'm not saying that some women don't do the same thing - I'm not sure that I agree with "boss bitch," but Susie Homemaker/Becky Home-Ecky is spot on - but not only is it more prevalent with men, but women aren't going out raping and murdering men because they aren't making us feel "womanly" enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 12:18 AM |
| 1 | Question for women: Have you ever felt toxic?Hell ya, I've felt toxic before - I'm pretty sure it's always been when I've been super pissed at men. There have probably been 4-5 times in the past 5 years when I just said some super over-the-top things, most of which I'm not proud of, one or two of which I really meant but should have kept to myself. Because of those incidents ive been working on finding healthier ways of dealing with my anger. No - that's not honest. For dealing with my rage. I have a lot of it - I think most women do - and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 12:02 AM |
| 1 | Relationships are for losersRelationship are for losers; and this is easy to prove as the ltr-man (a.k.a. physically unattractive/average man) has to provide far more to get sex without getting much else in return, tipping the balance of win/loss towards the loss compared to what a good looking man got from the same woman in a FWB-situation. I showed this post to my husband, and he wondered if you'd ever really had much interaction with women or have had any friendships with them, and I have to agree. I've never had any fe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 11:19 PM |
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