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this shows that police brutality isn't a gender issue No, it doesn't. No more than 999 black men and 1 white man being stopped for a "random" drug search shows the police aren't profiling.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 12:07 PM
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Ssssh. That's a secret.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 01:34 PM
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I see. Fair enough.
/r/MensRights02/06/13 07:59 PM
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This woman wants a rich man. That's her business. Noone cares. But if that rich man, post-marriage, doesn't want her any longer, the government will enforce his money/assets shifted to her in divorce settlement, and/or alimony, and/or child support payment.
/r/MensRights02/06/13 03:13 PM
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It actually shows the opposite. "Women working full-time in the United States earn approximately 23 percent less than men do, says the American Association of University Women." "An average man has $26,227 in debt from credit cards, personal loans and auto loans, compared to a $25,095 average for a woman." Since the difference between 26,227 and 25,095 is much less than 23%, it means the average woman has more debt, relative to her income, than the average man.
/r/MensRights02/06/13 03:04 PM
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So, trolling is fun.
/r/MensRights26/05/13 07:05 AM
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Eh, not quite. I said income tax, which is technically inaccurate (I guess the better translation is communal tax since income tax is paid to the state), but you're adding VAT, which is a consumption tax.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 11:47 PM
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To help clear up some things: Swedish income tax is roughly 33% (depending on where you live). When you make a certain amount (don't have exact figures but it's around 65000 dollar/year) you pay, on that "extra" amount, state tax which brings it to 50%. Sweden is a great place to live. Every worker has multiple weeks of vacation time, the weather is lovely, health care system functions, less corporate influence in media, etc etc. There are a lot of radical feminists here who have done a lot of b…
/r/MensRights16/05/13 03:42 AM
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To expand on that, Simon Baron-Cohen calls autism a kind of extreme masculinity - which is why it's so much more prevalent in men. He's currently doing research to try and find if there's a converse - an extreme femininity.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 06:07 PM
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Sweden is heavily unionised, so entry wages are done via collective bargaining. There's no massive wage gap here. The highest number is 7% "unexplained" (which as those studying it conceded doesn't prove any reasoning behind the gap), while studies with more factors bring it closer to 1-2% "inexplicable". It's the exact same patterns as in America. Men and women work different jobs. Men work more overtime. Men take more dangerous jobs. Women take more time off work - not just for children. Women…
/r/MensRights14/05/13 04:36 PM
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Taxes are around 30% on income, with an added state tax which taxes income above X amount. VAT is 25% on most things (12% on food).
/r/MensRights14/05/13 04:34 PM
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Churchill was pretty reactionary in his views of arabs (and others, like jews).
/r/MensRights12/05/13 02:27 PM
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Not to mention the dead-by-suicide, many of whom have such troubling histories.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 11:24 AM
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He was asked about this in his UoT talk and IIRC his answer was along those lines.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 10:28 AM
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There are no guarantees. Don't get married.
/r/MensRights27/04/13 03:08 PM
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What we need is deferred sentences for when her last child is emancipated. Aka "wont go to jail as long as you keep breeding"
/r/MensRights15/04/13 03:16 AM
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So say if you go for a job interview, you are seen as the norm. The workforce is half female, so this is not only nationally inaccurate but will depend on what job you're applying to. Construction worker? Yes. Kindergarden teacher? No.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 01:48 AM
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Where is the study? Looks like a guy wrote a book.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 04:53 PM
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It doesn't help the ones that make the news seem to be relatively attractive. There we go.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 01:39 AM
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Seems like ultra-traditionalism. It's important to remember, amidst railing against feminism (which is traditionalism for leftists) that the most oppressive force of men and the male gender role has throughout history been traditionalism and the expectations on men to sacrifice (lives if necessary) for those around them (family, girlfriend/wife, and State).
/r/MensRights13/03/13 08:46 PM
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http://www.innocenceproject.org/know/ About 300 total. The most common crime a person is exhonorated from is rape, but they help people who have been convicted of other crimes aswell.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 08:38 PM
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No shit.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 02:13 PM
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The solution is for more feminists to make games. With kickstarter, Steam Greenlight & indie development the barrier has never been lower. Some of the 160K sarkeesian received should be put into promoting indie devs, or paying them to create a game with good female characters. The solution to bad art is good art. Unfortunately, most people would rather piss on someone else's efforts than go Gandhi and be the change. Less gender studies, more programming studies. Let's get the ball rolling. You w…
/r/MensRights12/03/13 04:32 PM
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No, but the amount of work you do as a massage therapist with certain small muscles (hands and arms) is a lot different and a lot harder on those smaller muscles than drilling is Same is true for professional Starcraft players, and a lot of other finger/hand-heavy work... in fact, anything with a lot of wrist flexion (mechanical work such as auto repair) increases the risk. Fingers and wrists wear out quick (CTS etc). There is a reason a lot of physical work is referred to as "back-breaking", an…
/r/MensRights12/03/13 04:13 PM
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In a subreddit not designed for it, with information posted without any qualification? Yes.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 04:34 PM
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Because it's not about men's rights. Cluttering it with facebook posts, relationship advice, and random personal revenge stories is a waste of space and drags the subreddit down.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 03:42 PM
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For fuck sake. Water isn't sexist. Men are in the water more often. Including when drunk, or impaired. So they drown more. Why is this here?
/r/MensRights11/03/13 01:28 PM
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This is about men's rights, not men's relationship problems. But, you're right, if ever a woman calls me a child, or a pussy, I should kick her to the curb because she's infringing on my liberties.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 12:53 PM
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What is this Cosmo bullshit?
/r/MensRights10/03/13 05:47 PM
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In 2001 women outnumbered men for the first time and they now make up more than 60% of the overall student body. That's from the link on Iran, btw. According to the BBC article, they are the majority of students and growing yearly. I don't think anyone will deny there is some major fucked up gender situations related to e.g. education in the world. It's just the narrative of "women being kept down, men coasting along" that's being perpetuated which is frightfully ignorant, and usually attributed…
/r/MensRights10/03/13 02:18 PM
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Women are objectified and men are taught to pursue. I don't see how this morphs into rape culture. These are systematic social codes that create 'masculinized' men who do become rapists. Citation needed that rapists are created by social code. Someone who "conquers" by being a smooth talker and very persuasive is a good salesman, not a rapist. With the perpetuation of the idealized 'masculine man'--an aggressive, forceful conqueror image, then that 'conqueror' will feel as though society has enc…
/r/MensRights07/03/13 11:28 AM
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Well, that's fucking stupid.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 11:22 AM
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This was a psychology teacher talking about abusive relationships. There is no evidence she or the girls protesting were feminists or arguing in any such capacity.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 11:10 AM
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Typical of people who either have very little empathy, or believe in an ideology which rewards self-righteous thinking. Rationalization is a powerful tool and often used.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 11:08 AM
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I don't know if there are any statistics to prove whether or not what you call blaming is effective, harmful, or irrelevant. I agree that the conversation needs to broaden - the default view of rape cannot be "crazy man in bushes" because that's so rare and just complicates matters. But so far, most of the broadening I've seen is treating all men like potential predators, or that men tacitly (or openly) support/perpetuate rape on a massive scale. It's painting men eerily close to sociopaths.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 10:23 AM
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It is strange that this is never sold to us as a way to solve any other crime ("stop shooting in schools!") but that when "just say no"/"just don't" programs have been tried, such as with teenage sexuality or drug/alcohol consumption, they've been irrelevant or massive failures.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 09:24 AM
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If you add those stats to prison rape statistics, men are most likely both majority of perpetrators and victims.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 09:22 AM
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Drop an # before the t, so it becomes #t=10s.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 09:04 AM
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Can we still have gay porn?
/r/MensRights07/03/13 08:59 AM
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I don't think no-fault divorce is the problem. The problem is custody cases and various financial consequences. Get rid of those (or the bias in those) and let people get divorced.
/r/MensRights06/03/13 10:50 AM
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I can think of few things worse than trying to forcefully control other people's bodies, including forcing women to give birth or severely curtailing the ability to abort. This is disgusting.
/r/MensRights06/03/13 10:45 AM
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An all-female organization complaining about lack of diversity. Meh.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 08:42 PM
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Women are infantilized in our society. The upside of this is the ability to get away with a lot of things, or be seen as less responsible for bad actions (including violent crime). The downside is being seen as less/other/not as capable of good action. The two intrinsically go hand in hand and you can't have one without the other. Getting rid of our hypoagency view of women, which I know some WRM/WRA's fight for would be a great step forward. Simply put to think that women are just as capable of…
/r/MensRights05/03/13 09:24 AM
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Her body, her choice! Except if her choice is to be a stripper, sex worker, surrogate mother or porn star. Housewives are a gray area. Feel the liberation!
/r/MensRights04/03/13 07:34 AM
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"It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words." 1984, for those wondering.
/r/MensRights04/03/13 07:13 AM
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The child support is owed to the child not the mother. Yet paid out to whom, with what oversight for misuse? The mothers conduct is therefore totally irrelevant. I thought it took two to make babies. Fuck me, I've been going about it the wrong way.
/r/MensRights03/03/13 04:43 PM
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Well, shockingly, there exists large group differences in what we find attractive. This is why we have genres like "chick flicks". This is why there is a slew of successful women's erotica (written porn, hardcover books with no pictures) that feature dominant, sometimes violent men - including assault and rape fantasies. Non-visual porn is not as popular with men. And porn with dominant women is much less popular than vice versa. While there is large overlap and video gaming is branching out, it…
/r/MensRights28/02/13 05:59 PM
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The massive bump you see was when rape was re-defined, making it more prevalent. This happened in early 2005. This was not an "organic" increase, as it were. In Sweden, every instance of rape is treated as a seperate report. If a woman says she was raped 20 times, that's counted as 20 different rapes - not the case in every country. Likewise, if there are multiple rapists, each participating rapist is counted seperately. So if five men rape a woman, that counts 5 times. For the curious, the curr…
/r/MensRights27/02/13 06:11 PM
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Did you know the moon landing was faked? Urban legend says it's so.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 01:25 AM
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I don't recall excusing anyone.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 12:34 AM
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What did the woman say? Was there any evidence beyond your word? I am not doubting your truthfulness, but if their policy is to suspend anyone based on a single accusation, that's a poor standard, whether applied towards a woman or not. Although physical assault should be immediate grounds for suspension, if there's no evidence, they're acting only on what one person says happened.
/r/MensRights26/02/13 04:04 AM
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Most often, shame over what she did (biggest reason), being caught in a lie (such as cheating), or someone else filing the report (friends assuming things).
/r/MensRights26/02/13 03:25 AM
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You know how a racist society at large would often treat you or other black men? Like deadbeats, no-goods, probably all criminals and junkies? Like your existence was somehow a corruption of "good 'n wholesome" america? It's kind of like that*. *Yes, the average black man has way more troubles than the average white man.
/r/MensRights26/02/13 02:05 AM
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I believe it was George Carlin who phrased it thus: "You don't need a formal conspiracy when interests align". I don't personally believe there is any conspiracy. The rich elite ("capitalists", I guess) were more than happy to accomodate professional women in the workforce: more labour force, more money! It's nothing to do with "keeping men down", it's just simple greed. The state loves women out working - more taxes! It also gives them a chance to expand daycare and other social infrastructure …
/r/MensRights26/02/13 02:04 AM
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It can be cheap, definitely. WW2 was about much much more than gender politics. But patriarchy theory claims that men essentially rule the world, in a sort of collectivist, trickle-down way - one man's power trickles to the lowest of the low. And this, supposedly, has been the way of the world. It is relevant, then, to look at history and see how the average man was treated. Wars are the pinnacle of the male disposability gender role, and a strong counterpoint to the argument that "men run the w…
/r/MensRights25/02/13 12:31 PM
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I can see pros and cons to this. Cons: You literally lose your balls. Pros: Breakfast of champions. Accept no substitutes.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 12:22 PM
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This is the threshold of PC vs reality, stepping over which will get people killed. This is not a theoretical issue of equality, sexism, "boys club" mentality - this is people who will die because someone made a dumb fucking call. We're not talking about professors or bankers, for fuck sake. These people are here to save lives in emergencies.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 08:15 AM
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Feminism has very little to do with marxism. The only way feminism is in any way leftist is their state-friendly approach to solving issues (affirmative action etc), and to some extent a very collectivist approach to people (viewing groups & structural issues vs the individual at the centre, which is pretty common center-to-left thinking). The feminist left (also known as "all feminists except CHSummers") has almost entirely given up the class struggle for the sex (gender) struggle. Through magi…
/r/MensRights22/02/13 10:52 PM
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That was an excellent summary of MRA positions and appropriate rebuttals.
/r/MensRights22/02/13 09:09 AM
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I think the part on weapons is here: http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm Weapons are only mentioned once. "McLeod, M. (1984). Women against men: An examination of domestic violence based on an analysis of official data and national victimization data. Justice Quarterly, 1, 171-193. (From a data set of 6,200 cases of spousal abuse in the Detroit area in 1978-79 found that men used weapons 25% of the time while female assailants used weapons 86% of the time, 74% of men sustained injury and …
/r/MensRights22/02/13 08:39 AM
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A lot of men jump right into problem-solving. It's very rarely malevolence. I'll sidestep that instinct, but in fairness unless you are very tall or muscular or both, it seems unlikely anyone would be trapped at that high of a weight (250). Or was that in the past? Either way, I hope whatever you decide turns out well.
/r/MensRights22/02/13 08:32 AM
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Sure. It could be that. or PATRIARCHY!
/r/MensRights22/02/13 08:10 AM
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If this is robust enough to withstand scrutiny, the most likely explanation I can think of is that this man is seen as a failure and a dangerous influence to the child, and therefore, should be kept away from it.
/r/MensRights22/02/13 08:05 AM
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The biggest thing you can do to get more male teachers is to clear up the stereotypes & bad treatment - meaning sexual harassment, false accusations of abuse/misconduct, and removing the stigma of pedophilia. History has shown that men make fine teachers, and are willing to do the job. There's no need for social engineering and affirmative action.
/r/MensRights22/02/13 07:54 AM
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But hey, using your logic there's nothing wrong with men comprising the most workplace death victims, because they just choose the riskier industries! Correct. There is nothing wrong that of those who sadly die on the job, a higher proportion are men. The problem is worker's rights and worker safety standards. Not whether the people who die have penises or not. We should try not letting them die at all, penis-laden or not. See the distinction?
/r/MensRights22/02/13 07:45 AM
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I'm going to guess the first counter-argument to any man complaining is the Bill Burr WAYAF Theory. "You don't want to watch naked chicks? What are you, a fag?!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LRcmg9mxRQ
/r/MensRights20/02/13 10:58 PM
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I assume you're american; please correct me if not. One of the things I have to make clear is where I live (Sweden), things are nowhere near as bad regarding abortions. We have problems, but not comparable to the US politics about birth control. So if I appear callous to the possibility of a woman actually being able to have an abortion, it's because it's less of an issue here. That's also why I think a woman's right to have an abortion shouldn't be infringed. The stuff I read or hear about in a…
/r/MensRights19/02/13 10:31 PM
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Yes. A man, even if completely shitfaced, horny as hell, being pushed for sex by a hot girl etc, would then be expected to make the rational decision not to have unprotected sex, against all impulses and desires. That's a ridiculously high standard, and if he falls short of it, he has to take the responsibility (aka "man up"). I get that most situations are not that extreme, but it is wholly unrealistic. The number of men who have unprotected sex, just once (which is enough) is much, much higher…
/r/MensRights19/02/13 10:06 PM
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In other words, nothing after the fact. Sex and risk of fatherhood intrinsically linked unless you have a vasectomy before-hand. We're holding men to a zen master standard, never to lose discipline or make any sexual mistakes with regards to "flinging their DNA around", including when drunk. If they do? Sorry, boy, should've been responsible. Aka sorry girl, no abortion. Should've been responsible. Unrealistic view of people.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 09:24 PM
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There is none, which is part of the problem. My point is, the argument you presented was that this is the risk you take, and the only choice is not to play. That's true, but for men only. Some people apply this to women, and say, "you can't have an abortion because it's your fault you got pregnant". That argument is often seen as sexist at worst or hopelessly naive at best, as is the arguments of abstinence - "just say no, kids!" - and we recognise that people are flawed and make bad choices, so…
/r/MensRights19/02/13 07:57 PM
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As a man, how I make bed? To be fair, I'm not sure I care that much. The sexist bullshit on TV bothers me less and less every day, but that few people care or call it out, and that it's so prevalent, and that the fucktards in media keep treating us (men and women) like sub-humans is getting old quick. Ads in general are dumb, but north american ads are double plus dumb.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 06:26 AM
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Although to be fair, in those total war situations, "war work" can mean stitching uniforms instead of tablecloths.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 06:22 AM
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The stuff about men instinctually saving women is bunk. Whether instinctual or not, there is the notion of "damsel in distress" which is prevelant. It might be cultural, biological, but it's certainly there, and not just as a gimmick in storylines. I guess you can call it a severe form of white knighting. Further, if men know or fear women are subject to sexual abuse in a way they assume (often wrongly) they would not be, if captured that is, they're more likely to go to extremes to prevent capt…
/r/MensRights19/02/13 06:20 AM
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Women are necessary to replenish the population, men less so. Thankfully, we've populated the world. We're not short on people. In a country with so many people as america, and so few soldiers (comparatively), this makes little sense. I've said it before and I've said it again; it is only a matter of time until men start dying in irrational attempts to rescue or protect their female colleagues. This is true, and is a serious concern not to be taken lightly, since it can lead to unit breakdown or…
/r/MensRights19/02/13 06:12 AM
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50/50 is a perfect ratio, imo. We can determine guilt by flipping a coin, and jail time with a d20. Average trial takes 30 minutes, we save loads of money, and countless people are sent to jail or punished for no reason streamline the entire system. I'm Harvey Dent, and I approve this message.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 03:49 AM
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The same argument has been used to try and deny women contraception or abortions. Rubbish argument then, rubbish argument now.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 03:47 AM
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I suppose it's a perfect enemy of the good situation - I'm not well read enough to know if pushy parents will give boys better opportunities in school - it would require parents and teachers who understand the problem of how boys are treated, rather than assume it's because of xbox/lazy/stupid or insert drug/gang-related racial stereotype here. I'm glad we agree on the long-term plan, if nothing else.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 02:57 AM
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It's a female-dominated workplace, but they do right by the boys. This, I presume, you find equally valid if applied to male-dominated areas, e.g. high political office? As long as the men do right by the girls, no need to push for more female representation?
/r/MensRights18/02/13 02:36 AM
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Transgender.
/r/MensRights18/02/13 02:35 AM
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You suck! Sorry. Just trying to help.
/r/MensRights15/02/13 01:29 PM
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I think it will take a very long time before female-on-male rape is recognised legally as equivalent to penetrative rape. The bubble is strong on this one.
/r/MensRights15/02/13 01:52 AM
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Not all progress advances men's rights exclusively or significantly. This adds more protection and recognition for some groups (including gay men), as well as a minority of male-victim rape (anal rape). That's a step in the right direction.
/r/MensRights15/02/13 01:51 AM
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Most men are not raped in either one of those three ways (but "made to penetrate"/"forced envelopment"), so it unfortunately skirts around the issue of highlighting female-on-male rape. It's, as the word goes, gynocentric, but it has trickle down effects on men/LGBT victims. That said, it's obviously progress even if it's not aimed to help men - of course anal or oral penetration (against said persons will) should be rape, regardless of the sexes involves. I don't think anyone is against anally …
/r/MensRights14/02/13 01:57 PM
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The words "it's not 'really' rape" and "certain types of rape are not actually rape" take on a whole new depressing tone when viewed in light of CDC/FBI rape definitions, where non-penetrative sex of a man simply isn't counted as rape. Talk about lessons to society, and all that jazz.
/r/MensRights12/02/13 11:56 AM
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By definition, you can only speak confidently for yourself, while the proverbial playboy has a larger sample pool. I am not saying "women don't know what they want", I'm saying a woman off the street has no idea what women, in general, want. It's a forest trees thing. As a man, it's incredibly difficult to speak from personal experience on how best to get men in bed - why would this be different for individual women? I dont think you were trying to offend and I wasn't offended. No need to play t…
/r/MensRights12/02/13 11:47 AM
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Yes, and men do more paid work outside the home, as in more hours. Put the two together, and you get near 50/50 splits in most nations. It usually roots itself in the fallacy that if men and women both perform paid work, women therefore must perform equal hours of paid work as the man - this is usually not the case. There was a time article posted a day or two ago which talked about this with respects to US: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2084582,00.html "According to data just…
/r/MensRights12/02/13 01:20 AM
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For the most case, the split between all work (paid+unpaid) is at or very near 50/50 in marriages. While that doesn't control for how difficult/tedious/dangerous the work is, it's a damn good split in most countries.
/r/MensRights11/02/13 10:02 AM
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female here, first of all, I find it amusing reading all these guys talking about what they think women want. Although I understand your point, noone has more knowledge of what women want than the men who regularly sleep with them (and vice versa).
/r/MensRights11/02/13 09:58 AM
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What amazes me is how similiar the hours are. I wrote a paper on this in Sweden, using official statistics, and the numbers are 56 hours for men and women, per week. It seems in Sweden, like in America, husbands and wives just naturally seem to divide things equally. At least, measured by hours and minutes.
/r/MensRights08/02/13 03:51 PM
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I don't identify as an MRA or any label for various reasons, and discuss gender issues both IRL and online with people of both sexes, ranging from radical feminists (including family members) to level-headed egalitarians of both sexes to downright derptastic male chauvinists. I think most people would call themselves egalitarian if you told them what it meant, and I don't necessarily think everyone focusing on every problem (even within confines of sex discrimination) is the most effective. In s…
/r/MensRights08/02/13 03:39 PM
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Meh.
/r/MensRights08/02/13 03:27 PM
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The kind of feminism that is most often heard from "the top" these days (academia/books/etc) is usually radical (meaning it looks for the root of problems, which leads to theories such as patriarchy), often "sex-negative" (referencing pornography/sex work). The latest schism I recall was the feminist sex wars in the 80's.
/r/MensRights08/02/13 12:43 PM
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Most men will retreat and internalise. Having someone, anyone - even a friend like you - to talk to, is a vital thing. Make sure he knows he can talk about it. You might want to prod him every so often. Maybe try to help find someone for him to talk to. A depressed, lonely man is going nowhere fast.
/r/MensRights08/02/13 01:48 AM
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1 year in jail (early release for birth), 3 years probation where she cannot work with minors, and no sex offender registry. Probably not. It's hard to say for sure. From what I gather, she could go back to working with kids in another 3 years?
/r/MensRights07/02/13 11:46 AM
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Apex Fallacy - the judging of a group by its top members. President is black. Racism is over.
/r/MensRights07/02/13 09:28 AM
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"Fluid" as opposed to what? There are no "solid" political movements. Even religions, with holy books, change over time, as we morph our relation and culture. Anyone who associates with feminism carries its banner, yes, but all voices are not equal. Some are marginalized and some are promoted. If Jimmy Bob utters the words "I am a feminist" he is not the equal of Gloria Steinem. By that logic, movements fall apart unless regulated hierarchical value is in place. If I call myself a communist and …
/r/MensRights07/02/13 09:21 AM
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I am not discounting any "movement"; I am discounting an ism, an ideology, a collection of ideas expressed by the members who self-associate to that label. Those are definitely open to discounting, if you find them lacking in justification for their views. We could of course argue over what the central tenets of feminism are, but the notion of -Patriarchy, the immaterial force that governs all human interaction -Gender theory and its refutation of biology (sex differences purely or near exclusiv…
/r/MensRights06/02/13 09:20 PM
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I did not say you share the beliefs of someone, I said you support them. You can support them by sympathy of their views yes, but also by providing financial aid, or simply being another number in the annual statistics. I apologise if I was unclear on this. To your point about the boy scouts: I don't hold children to the same standard as adults. If you're a grown-up, and you give money to the boy scouts (I assume parents pay membership dues?) you're supporting them. You can still disagree with t…
/r/MensRights06/02/13 08:00 PM
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You're conflating isms with actions. If you support an -ism, or a religion, you lend credibility and support to those who shape & run it. Whether that support is monetary, social or political. If you call yourself a catholic, you're supporting the catholic church, including the bad things they do. The solution is either change the system (almost impossible) or reject the label (very easy).
/r/MensRights06/02/13 04:39 PM
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It's a false equivalancy - the assertion is that feminism is unreasonable (evidence of which can be presented), therefore, a reasonable person wouldn't be a feminist. It does not necessarily follow that the same is true for MRA (assuming one would self-identify as one, which isn't shown either).
/r/MensRights06/02/13 09:40 AM
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"Unfortunately for Alex, his exploits (heroic as they were) went against Mary Blair Elementary School rules. Those rules include no fighting (real or pretend) and no weapons (real or pretend)." What kind of child, boy in particular, can exist normally within such confines? No play weapon or play fighting? That's like telling kittens to stop clawing eachother.
/r/MensRights06/02/13 09:17 AM
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Your girlfriend may not be aware of this, but in the early 1900's we went through two really really really big wars - like, world-encompassing big - where millions of men were drafted, that is to say forced under penalty of imprisonment, to fight and die. That might be relevant when talking about historical mistreating.
/r/MensRights05/02/13 03:44 PM
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Disturing that they post pictures of the people involved.
/r/MensRights04/02/13 12:41 PM
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Just to chime in, this technique is used consistently in the ** (edit: NA) on a whole host of different crimes, and has been criticized for being antagonistic or "victim-blaming". So it's not that they're particularly harsh on people who bring rape or sexual assault claims.
/r/MensRights03/02/13 08:15 AM
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And if you forget to save a metaphorical hard drive crash will wipe you out. It's almost as though, wait for it, we biologically complement one another. I, for one, am shocked.
/r/MensRights03/02/13 07:27 AM
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Yes, and sometimes that "trauma manifestation" is "helped along" by well-meaning professionals - sometimes, with actual trauma (as opposed to implanted fantasies) the reaction a person receives by the professionals around him/her is worse than the actual trauma. That is to say, being treated as a victim and told something horrible happened to you can make people to whom something horrible never happened, or to whom something happened they consider not so horrible, positively traumatised. I am no…
/r/MensRights02/02/13 08:47 PM
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Question is, do we teach that to girls because girls/women innately respond worse (whether on average or absolutely), or do they respond worse because of the teachings? In other words, is this deep-rooted insecurity/fear something innate, biological/psychological, or just something we create through propaganda? If we can figure that one out...
/r/MensRights02/02/13 06:46 PM
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"Friday's report also identified female veterans and Vietnam-era veterans as two demographic groups that require extra urgency when it comes to suicidal behaviors." Interesting. If anyone ever wondered what it takes for a man to get the same help a woman gets, the answer is a trip to Vietnam. edit: What are we to make of this information? Whatever way I twist it, it makes it sound like women are more prone to suicide (which we know is false in the general population), which I cannot interpret to…
/r/MensRights02/02/13 06:38 PM
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Well, fair enough. Personally I'm not that interested in policing language, in general. I take your point, though.
/r/MensRights02/02/13 01:10 PM
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Asshole / Douchebag aren't male-gendered terms. I'd love to see your survey - links/methodology etc. If you can do this in a well-structured way, it might be useful.
/r/MensRights02/02/13 09:19 AM
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By the time the boys enter high school, the vast majority of them are so broken psychologically and used to taking orders that they behave more or less like drones. Blank stares and submissive behavior is how they will interact with almost all authority. Well, since public education was largely implemented to funnel people from farmboys to factory workers, it seems to be doing its job. These boys will make great soldiers or manual laborers.
/r/MensRights02/02/13 09:11 AM
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Related to sexual abuse, you have Bacha Bazi, in and of itself a paradoxial subversion of manly ideals.
/r/MensRights02/02/13 08:55 AM
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By her logic, she has indicted herself. She has made a sexist statement, and her salaried teaching profession puts her in a position of power over her students. By any stretch of her twisted definition, she's called herself out as an irrational bigot, while maintaining the thin veil of female weakness and victimhood that is far too prevalent, even amongst those with power. The level of double-think that is required to persuade yourself, as you lecture to impressionable youth, that you hold no po…
/r/MensRights01/02/13 09:12 AM
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It's not an easy thing to break away from what you've been taught.
/r/MensRights01/02/13 05:02 AM
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It's important not to think of stranger rapists are indiscriminate machines, who just rape rape rape. They are often malevolent and vicious individuals who look for people to prey on: people who are drunk, alone, or appear weak. This is the same for a lot of criminals, who commit crimes of opportunity. They actively look for and abuse, when they think it's possible to do so and get away. This is precisely the kind of crime for which we need to warn potential victims.
/r/MensRights01/02/13 05:00 AM
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the thought that it was your fault, is emotionally damaging and FALSE. Noone is saying it was the FAULT of the victim. But different behaviour can produce different outcomes. If you wake up with a cold and decide not to go in to work, while your twin brother does, and he is hit by a drunk driver and dies, neither one of you is at fault, but different behaviour, different outcome.
/r/MensRights01/02/13 04:55 AM
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By the way, if they do release an equivalent for men, like that "GoodBoy" thing they were talking about, I hope everyone here will join me in comdening it. Shit stinks either which way. This app is depressing.
/r/MensRights01/02/13 04:16 AM
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"The glass ceiling is cracking in all different directions, but the bad news is, there is still a sticky floor." Interesting statement to consider a secretarial position the salary "floor". Not that it's the best job in the world, but the lowest of the low?
/r/MensRights01/02/13 03:53 AM
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It's a lazy analogy, but think about life boats. Women and children first and all that malarky. Just to be contrarian, this pretty much never happened. IIRC it was done twice in maritime history, Titanic being one example. That said, male disposability is a fact of life. Humbly, I'd suggest a better example is the million of men throughout the years who, on the whim of kings, emperors, presidents and dictators have been pressganged and conscripted to fight and die. For most of history, said men …
/r/MensRights01/02/13 03:25 AM
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My understanding of the american justice system is that black individuals are, on average, judged more harshly. Therefore, a black woman should be more likely than a white woman to be sentenced to death? Or, put another way, one can make this argument: Gender bias is stronger than race bias - despite the racism of the system she was, on basis of sex/gender, given a net positive outcome.
/r/MensRights01/02/13 03:05 AM
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Given the vast financial incentives, it's most likely due to medicinal difficulty. There's too much money in it.
/r/MensRights31/01/13 06:45 AM
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I can think of a bunch of things you might want to talk about. But right off the bat, I too would love to hear some analysis and motivations for the existence of the patriarchy. What exactly is it, and where are examples of it? Most the definitions I've been given relate to formalised, systematic oppression, codified in the judicial system and widely perpetrated by men for their own gain, yet there isn't a shred of evidence or observable dynamics in society that suggest this is true. When you ta…
/r/MensRights30/01/13 06:22 PM
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This is fantastic. She is not a pedophile, she just commits acts of pedophilia. Presumably it was all against her will, or accidental, therefore not reflecting any sexual desire. This is pray-the-gay-away therapy level reasoning. Your honor, I may have committed acts of murder in the past, but to call me a murderer...
/r/MensRights30/01/13 07:50 AM
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Welcome to Folsom.
/r/MensRights30/01/13 05:11 AM
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Hooray! Let's talk about objectification! (TLDR AT BOTTOM! Woo!) So, what it actually means is shrouded in mystery, much like the Penguin Kingdom or what fish sticks are actually made of. When most people talk about objectification, it falls back to a dichotomous view of agents vs objects. The basic and oft-repeated adage is, "agents act, objects are acted upon". This relates to agency, the notion of being able to make your own decisions, to shape the world around you, and the innate responsibil…
/r/MensRights30/01/13 04:33 AM
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The extremist way to view this is that female self-worth is innate, male self-worth is acquired. I would argue female worth is linked to sexuality and motherhood, while male worth is linked to accomplishment, typically of the sexual or professional variety.
/r/MensRights30/01/13 04:22 AM
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I am glad someone brought this up. There are a lot of implications and misunderstandings about that, and I'm apparently about to punish you with a lot of words because of it. First, if men make most video games, it's reasonable to assume most of the characters relate to male fantasy. That's not surprising. I don't assume 50 shades of grey or other female-produced/aimed work will nurture my fantasies or desires. Second, it implies women find both disgusting, or at least not worthy of fantasy. Cur…
/r/MensRights30/01/13 04:17 AM
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This highlights the problem of shallow analysis. To assume the very existence of tits is sexist forms an ideological constraint. It's impossible to view the work intelligently and to consider multiple perspectives when one self-blinds by non-thought. Sadly, that's pretty common for the feminist frequency videos.
/r/MensRights30/01/13 03:44 AM
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The emperor's new clothes effect. As soon as someone breaks the conformity we're expected to uphold ("The emperor really isn't naked and men never get hurt by women"), more follow suit immediately.
/r/MensRights30/01/13 03:35 AM
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This is not a new thing. I'll save you the bother of scrolling, here's the TLDR: The historical problem of production/material welfare and the time/energy it takes to raise children was solved, for better of worse, by a largely male-female dichotomy, where men were providing resources, women providing social welfare. Solving this problem today for a single woman requires a support structure - that's where the State comes in. Men throughout history have been assumed and encouraged to be self-reli…
/r/MensRights30/01/13 03:30 AM
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False dichotomy. We can do both. They're also to some extent the same thing.
/r/MensRights30/01/13 02:46 AM
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Miss Sarkeesian started a kickstarter for a project called tropes vs video games, which was to be about how video games propagate stereotypes that are offensive, shallow characterisation, etcetera. This was all done with a feminist slant, aka dealing with misogyny, female representation, und so weiter. Some people were mean to her, some were not. She raised 159,000 dollars (asked for 6K originally), and was very happy. This was 9 months ago. Since then, she hasn't made any of her videos. Some pe…
/r/MensRights30/01/13 02:41 AM
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But it doesn't. This is a perfect example of a "pussy pass" in action, if women were tested in a genderless environment, 0% of them would pass. Which is exactly what I (we!) turn against. Obvious hyperbole aside, I see your point. I think it's dangerous on the whole to allow people in certain jobs (military, rescue workers, etc) that cannot pass the standards. My point was just that, someone who is fit to be a soldier would analyze the situation, and probably come to the correct conclusion. Thos…
/r/MensRights29/01/13 12:38 PM
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If the military lets someone in after many weeks of training, I consider it their problem/responsibility. That's what boot camp is for. If this hypothetical person (woman or not) is a liability, the nature of the military training structure should weed them out. There are plenty of positions in which women can serve full well. You can argue that a man would do the job better because of physical advantages or what-have-you, but the bottom line is, if you pass the standards, and you can do the job…
/r/MensRights29/01/13 11:25 AM
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There is a charming but dangerous conflation here made by the argument of morality through military service. This conflation, this basic misunderstanding of the male role as protector/disposable (and extrapolation of the male-only role as affecting both sexes) probably explains why so many feminists admire characters like Buffy and Sarah Connor. If you view masculine as the norm, then sacrifice through battle is a gender-neutral positive, when in reality, it's always been a male experience: "rea…
/r/MensRights29/01/13 10:28 AM
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I agree entirely. It's important to note that most of these problems aren't the fault of women, yet arise because of them. That's a very important distinction that's almost always lost when arguing with pro-female-in-military groups. The problem of fraternization and all its assorted ills isn't the fault of women specifically - men and women fuck when around eachother - but it still is a problem. The same is male behaviour in combat with women. Unit effeciency is reduced because of the way men b…
/r/MensRights29/01/13 10:20 AM
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Defending your beliefs, even with religious vigor, is not what's being discussed. It's trying to take it "off the table", saying you're not "allowed" to discuss faith or lack thereof. If you critique atheism and they respond, and you engage eachother in debate, that's the opposite of immunity to criticism. What I imagine what Mr. Rushdie was talking about (given his history), is censorship, persecution or even assassination of those who would speak out.
/r/MensRights28/01/13 03:00 AM
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Just like all religious views mean that all other gods + atheism, by default, is wrong. Holding belief/opinion A, which is mutually exclusive from belief/opinion B, does not mean you make freedom of thought impossible.
/r/MensRights28/01/13 02:55 AM
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This is the same level of rhetoric as calling people communists because they think sharing is a nice thing to do.
/r/MensRights26/01/13 03:36 AM
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I'm with you, ma'am. Now all we need to do is kill those who dissent.
/r/MensRights21/01/13 02:09 AM
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I would add that half their genetic material comes from the father. Only the rapey half. /s
/r/MensRights21/01/13 12:55 AM
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Well, that would be using sexist reasoning ("but only men rape") to dismiss accusations of sexism. Which is sexist. Also, the ad doesn't show male rapists. The ad shows people who didn't commit rape.
/r/MensRights21/01/13 12:46 AM
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I know for a while in the UK, this was the view held on drunk driving. Society very quickly realised what a moronic notion this was.
/r/MensRights21/01/13 12:42 AM
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The treatment & attitude towards serviles (slaves) in the ancient world. The view of poor (especially ethnic poor) in many countries today. "Welfare leeches, food stamp junkies, drug-selling", etc etc. The right-to-vote movements that cropped up in the 1800 and 1900's, described by many well-off in the upper classes (politicians, landed folk, general powermongers) as "tyranny of the masses", "the rule of those least capable", etc. The notion that the working class would corrupt and destroy the w…
/r/MensRights20/01/13 11:48 PM
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The solution is for the men to begin identifying as females (trans).
/r/MensRights20/01/13 11:45 PM
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Does this then mean that men are unfairly forced into conscription or civil service, either way giving up a rough year of their life for low-paid labor? While civil service is great and noone, I think, wants to see the austrian emergency services collapse, it seems a rather sexist demand that only men should be put through that, given it can impact negatively on the ability to work/study as the individual might want. I am assuming the draft is male-only? While the problem of social service remai…
/r/MensRights19/01/13 03:37 AM
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I don't know if (or argue that) female sex drive is equivalent. Certainly there are simple observations to make (prostitution, times approached by opposite sex, the general beggers-choosers dynamic etc) that speak against that being the case, to the point where I'm more inclined to think male sex drive is stronger, by far. But what I am saying is that, in theory, it is possible for female sex drive to be identical, but manifesting itself primarily towards a small group of men (or one man, in the…
/r/MensRights18/01/13 03:27 AM
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I completely understand what you mean, but I must object to intentionally lying or inventing statistics to further the MR goals.
/r/MensRights18/01/13 01:10 AM
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Another problem is the attitudes towards casual sex or sex with strangers. Men tend to pick by looks and be open to sex with many different women, and often quite early after meeting them. A lot of different factors (postponed marriage, drinking culture etc) play into the male sex drive. Female sex drive and romantic/sexual desires often manifest themselves differently (status, long-term, etc). So to a lot of people, they see horny men ready to jump bones, and women much more reserved. They coul…
/r/MensRights18/01/13 12:16 AM
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The beauty of the poster is that it relies on you to internalize the bias. Plausible deniability.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 10:38 AM
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It's a different form of apology. He's trying to say jeans are a chastity belt that cannot be forcefully removed. The judge is a total fuckwit, but for different reasons.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 10:36 AM
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I formally request links.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 10:04 AM
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Sweden now has an all-volunteer army, since a few years back. Before then, there was a mandatory one-year conscription for a select few men. In practice, this was mostly-volunteer (they would rarely force someone who had no interest, since the pool of recruits was much larger than needed). As of 2010 or '11, it's abolished.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 09:46 AM
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We don't. Most of the rape figures are guesswork, on either side. Unfortunately the gray zone is massive and encompasses a lot of rape accusations. You can have: proven false accusations (accuser admits to lying, the closest we'll get to adequate proof) unproven false accusations (accuser lied, but no proof of it) accusation of rape that actually happened, but no trial or conviction (the accused did it but we can't prove it) and they will all fall into the same gray zone where different interest…
/r/MensRights09/01/13 09:42 AM
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