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Sure, it won’t matter because worthless people would use a doxxing, shaming and gossipping app so no worthy human being would take their words seriously anyway… BUT, doxxing has to be stopped for obvious reason, even if done by worthless people to be consumed by other worthless people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:48 PM
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We’re past this childish misinterpretation and misrepresentation of arguments under the guise of political correctness: you’re a couple of years late, you should keep up if you still want to feel self righteous and validated
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 11:32 AM
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She wants to point out that she, as a woman, is as much as a victim as any other women no matter who they’re. She just can’t take that some other people are seen as more in need of attention and care than her, she wants to be the center of attention. Incredible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 11:45 AM
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This is taking the “i want to be the most victim out of the victims” to a whole new level. Sorority would be actually caring for the women who’re prostitutes and suffer from violence, advocating for them. This is just selfishness disguised under sorority robes: you’re using a vulnerable target as a tool to boost your “I AM THE VICTIM LOOK AT MEEEEE” position. Disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 11:41 AM
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As a debate at the grand scheme of things? Sure. At an individual level? Not so much: it’s all you can do. It’s exactly the same as men saying women are aiming too high with their standards vs improve yourself so you can meet those standards. I’m not responsible for the other 3,999,999,999 men around the world so you debating me how much of a scum some of the other men are is totally irrelevant. If you ask me, the only advice I can give you to help you out is, indeed, pick better men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 11:26 AM
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Talk to women. Try to date women. If you’re not confident you will fail. That would create a negative feedback loop and you will lose more confidence, right? Wrong. Keep doing it. Eventually your brain will say “hey, this rejection thingy isn’t that bad, I’m still alive! Hey let’s do it again maybe this time will work”. And your confidence gets a boost. And you learn how to talk to women and even how to get to date them. And then you laugh at your not confident self so worried for what a random …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:57 PM
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You can only learn through experience. If a guy is always in the safe side of things he will never succeed. I know it may be uncomfortable for some women he will get to meet in his life but whatever, it’s how it works, if men have the social burden of making the first move then women have the social burden of being the ones on the receiving end. If no one is being disrespectful it’s ok. Someone tried to make a move and you didn’t like him? Tough luck, that’s life, if he was respectful just say n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:40 PM
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Women say you shouldn’t bother women, as in: don’t talk to me in the gym/bus/work weirdo. Truth is they are tired and do not want to be approached by the horde of guys who she doesn’t find attractive… except for X. That X guy she likes so she’s always secretly waiting for him to make a move or even if she doesn’t know it yet that Z guy approached her and now she likes him. Thing is that you can’t know if she will be interested in you until you make a move, so completely ignore the “do not approa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:37 PM
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What’s “round-the-cock care”? I’m not familiar with the term
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:15 PM
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You still are responsible for your own words, regardless of what others are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:03 PM
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I do understand that, I’m 33 and I have female friends who I don’t want to fuck. That’s my point: if I heard one of those friends saying that male friends are only orbiters I would be seriously offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 11:55 AM
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There’re 2 POVs: he likes her very much, not only for her personality but also her looks and not only in a platonic but also romantic way. That’s a plus, that’s him having a legitimate friendship + a crush. The other POV would be he only is “friends” with her just to have a chance at sex. Those are two very different things. The first one I think should be respected: you can’t control if you catch feelings with someone, you can control how you act. The second one is a guy just being a poser, fak…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 11:54 AM
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Lol you have two male friends but in your mind men who have female friends are beta orbiters? And somehow you have the high moral ground while talking shit about male friends in general while having male friends? Jesus Christ: if I were your friend I would be seriously offended. You don’t deserve their friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 11:20 AM
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This is the first time I agree with you lol. I would even argue that if you have options and you go for the romantic gestures she will feel even more hooked to that “feeling special” status.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 03:51 AM
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I was agreeing with every single one of your points until Amy Schumer being a 5. That's not a 5 at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:44 AM
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Well I joined for a different conversation then. I'm glad everything is better for you where you're.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:20 AM
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Are we talking about men described in your OP or we're just now broadening the scope to "men who treat women wrong" in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:13 AM
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They didn't do shit to you neither, they did it to other people, you're the one choosing to make it personal. They will never be held accountable because there's no such thing in our society. There's no real justice for men toying with women nor women toying with men and all of them leave behind a trail of hurt people; some of them will never trust again, some will repeat the vicious cycle as toying with people breeds people who toy with people, as much as violence breeds violence. If it's catha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:10 AM
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You won’t change how those men see women. It would be a better course of action to try and alert women to identify those men and do not play into their games. It would be better for everyone: we want those douches jerking off alone in their room, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:23 AM
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I like how some TRP go full evolution on how women behave but somehow they discard the niceness/kindness instantly in favor of “they just like douches”. Douches disguise themselves as nice/kind TO THEM, that’s why they buy into their acting, they think that he’s actually nice/kind for them or they wouldn’t pick the douche. Why? Let’s go full “we’re just hominids with technology”: as is often said around here, women are screening men for those tasty genes to reproduce and they need the father to …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:00 AM
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Something really important to all women: NO THERE IS NO UNIVERSAL RIGHT WAY TO ASK OUT ON A DATE. Something that works for you may be totally off putting for your closest friend or the woman who you just saw at the grocery store. Any particular random woman may love, hate, be indifferent, be whatever with any given approach. If a guy seems too pushy for you, maybe the next girl will love that, while the last girl hated how timid the guy was and you just loved it when that guy approached you. Wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:24 PM
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I would say personality but then again my personality is what brings me the attention of women so that’s my highest point of confidence. Whenever I get “rejected” by personality I just go the “meh, her loss” and I’m fine with it. But looks… oh boy, it feels like I’m an idiot who either messed up a beautiful gift with a horrible packaging or was dealt unappealing physical traits that are beyond my control. Either of those reasonings are bad. A year or so ago I dated a girl who was incredibly beau…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:39 PM
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You do realize he also has no relationship to you right? He also doesn’t know if you’re interesting, worthy of a ltr or any kind of emotional investment. To the point of having the date he only knows you’re physically attractive. Literally, the only valid motivation to pay for someone’s time without knowing if she’s worth it is sex. If you’re ok with that, with being seen as a pussy to be banged, then yes by all means be fine with being paid to have a date. If you want to be seen as an equal hum…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:31 PM
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Nah never give up. You just have to make your own route and get advice from real people from real life. My female friends were the main factor in me succeeding in dating, I learnt a lot from then and also from failed dates. Key is not listening to women here if you’re a man or men here if you’re a woman. It’s toxic as fuck. I can say for a fact that if I were to follow women’s advice here I would be as much as an incel as if I were to follow incel’s advice. Incels know nothing about women but it…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:24 PM
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Yes you have to win them, it’s a prize. Also don’t objectify them and treat them as equals and human beings. Also you’re not equals, she’s better than you so you must pay. Also it’s perfectly fine that you should be the one with the initiative and seducing from the very beginning while all you know about her is that she looks cute but also remember not to objectify her. Also treat them with respect but also remember to push boundaries or be left in the friendzone but also pushing boundaries is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:04 PM
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“You should understand that the competitive landscape of dating and the nature between the sexes demands for a man to try and pleasantly surprise a woman to attract her. There’s no space for success if you behave just like average joe. Find what’s special about you and enhance it: women will be more attracted to you”. “Bro it’s like a game just find the best way to sell the best of yourself and you will be swimming in pussy”. Those 2 are exactly the same, but the last one sounds like a douche sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:43 PM
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I only aim for a woman who is happy on her own. I can’t fix her past problems, I can only share life with her. New problems? Sure, let’s face them together, but you need to have sorted your past and present just enough to be happy or at least ok with it: I know it’s hard, I had to endure that myself. I’m pointing this out because I’m not some idiot who wants people to totally be codependent of other people to forge their relationships: that’s a recipe for mutual destruction/unhappiness and even …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 12:38 PM
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I think that what you’re missing is that almost everyone in the past, if not everyone in some cases, were into misogyny. You would have to discard almost all past knowledge if you wanted to discard any misogynistic source.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 12:11 PM
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All men should treat women as humans… but suggesting that’s what’s key to attracting them… Jesus you don’t care a single bit about just lying to get your point across (you seem to be more interested in how women are treated than how men can attract women… which is fine, but do not lie)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 11:54 AM
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The original comment was about 25 yo and I have dated several 25 yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:42 PM
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I don't understand
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:22 PM
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I guess I’m so delusional I have dates with 25yo in my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:12 PM
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It seems to be since all my 30+ friends are dating 25-30 except for one dating 25-
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:09 PM
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You’re the exception /33yo male
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:40 PM
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He is. Find out. I have met zero male friends who we were comfortably enough to openly talk about sex who’re not into some kink. Maybe he’s somewhat ashamed of his kink. Maybe he’s into something you can’t satisfy which would be not cool (like having sex with midgets or amputees or some other crazy suit). If he really doesn’t have a kink, which again I would bet 1000 to 1 he does, then I assume he’s just fine with the kind of sex he has with you given that he’s not lacking anything. If he’s into…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:38 PM
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I’m in a third world country and I agree with this, but the dynamics of dating sometimes wear you off and you can’t seem to enjoy it. I just take a break and come back when I’m in the mood (usually sexual motivation lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:30 PM
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Men with an overwhelming quantity of options who enjoy “the hunt” for sex and are only in it for sex, with relatively low standards. Men with options still have to put effort into dating, unless they have so much options they like that they do almost none effort and are fine succeeding in only a portion of them as a consequence, which are also not top notch (a top notch woman will still require effort from the top notch guy). If they want something serious they still have to date and filter seve…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:25 PM
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I 100% agree with you. This is the same as when people conflate the life of a millionaire/powerful men to ordinary men to say they have it easier in life in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:08 PM
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Agree. It’s also the same for women you know? It’s not like all women are a good woman. I think that particular problem hits both genders. The difference seems to be in sex availability… but going for something serious with someone worthy? You wouldn’t have much better chances if you dated women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:06 PM
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I don’t know if it’s easier or not, but I do want to focus on one point: there’re also unworthy women. People around here are all focused on men having sex or not vs the quality of men that women get when dating. No one speaks about the quality of women. When you go serial dating for some months you find woman after woman who’s boring, has no real personality (seems copy pasted from one another), is demanding on what she wants even prior to showing what she has to offer, does not have interestin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:02 PM
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Don’t get me wrong I’m all in for women not being shamed for having sex and I’m also in for men having their own standard on what they want on a woman, including n-count or whatever… but neither of that has to do with who people actually pick to fuck. Men will still fuck women who have high n-count but they won’t take them “seriously” no matter the shaming and women will still only fuck men who they find attractive, they won’t suddenly fuck an incel because there’s no shame on it. The no shaming…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:33 PM
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I’m there with you. My dad even showed emotions and was a loving, caring, always present father, even if my mom was stay at home he would put his part in the house and raising me and my sister. I feel sorry (and kind of scared) for women around here who seem to have grown up with an absent/not caring father and have a so hateful view of men that they think they’re worthless and expect any man to say “I’m sorry we’re all douches let me compensate you for my whole gender”, as if it were that guy’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:23 PM
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Performing oral on a woman is gay hhahaha wtf this is the best one. Which country is that? I want to go on a vacation there I feel like I will be very popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:18 PM
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Have you ever witnessed some really cute and nice girl fuck the bad boy who is a fucking total douche? We all did, right? That’s why the stereotype and the bitterness and the incels pointing that out is out there… why the fuck does that happen? Explanation around here is that the guy is not being fucked because he’s a total douche, but because he’s handsome/assertive/dominant/etc.: being a douche is some unwanted trait that’s not defining in the combo… Except it’s not. Doucheness is a key core t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:12 PM
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There’re three main reasons: 1) the guy lacks self confidence enough so the fact that she dated other guys poses a threat (in his mind) to him, as he will be compared to them; 2) the guy thinks that women must be pure and dating takes the purity out of the woman, so the more you date the less pure you’re (aka every dick makes you less worthy of wife material in his eyes); 3) the guy (myself actually) thinks that people (both men and women) lose hope and positive thinking with each and every “fai…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:58 AM
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I love when an American shoots some kind of “got ya” moment that only makes sense on their political bipartisan dichotomy and I don’t even understand what the fuck they’re talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:12 AM
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In my country prostitution is legal. Nothing changes: most men don’t want to have sex with a service provider but with a woman who chooses to have sex with them. It’s a form of validation, even if you’re only interested in the sexual act: your own biology wants you to be desired by the woman, to be chosen to breed on a subconscious level. Women get to choose which genes are moving forward, you want that, not to put a dick in a vagina (again in a subconscious level). Being horny is just the tool …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:38 PM
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It works but I don’t think is the more efficient way: if you put the same time into reading books you will end up being a more interesting person and that also is a plus in dating. I would argue a more effective one even. Looks get you through the door, while personality gets you to bed. If someone is 100% focused on dating and having sex (which I would not recommend, just aim for what you like and what makes you better, regardless of what women think, they will be attracted to you just for impr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 02:36 PM
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It’s legal in my country. Changes nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 02:23 PM
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Lol during covid restrictions (almost not leaving the house for months in my country) a girl talked daily to me, did video calls while she was “just stretching” in a very teasing way (she was a former ballet dancer), sent me home made cookies with a letter, etc. Anything that can be done at a distance to get my attention, she did. Everything was just saying “hey c’mon go for it” in a not so much subtle way: so I did. As soon as I was able I made a move. Instantly rejected. Girl you cooked me coo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 12:21 PM
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So true. When I was in my 20s I was so afraid of disclosing what I liked that I just couldn’t say a word until a ltr in my 25+. When I told her she was just so into it and mad that I didn’t tell her before I couldn’t believe it. I was in paradise. From then on I disclose it 2nd sexual encounter. Sometimes 1st. I’ve had literally every single sexual partner since then willing to indulge. Every single one. I felt like an idiot for waiting 25 years of my life to have my kink satisfied lol. I have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:33 PM
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There's a trick: men have more diverse and coexisting kinks than women in general. As men have a libido around the sexual act, a woman that indulges in his kinks will keep his libido high, while a woman who only agrees on 100% vanilla sex will find a partner that ends up losing interest over time. Being comfortable with your partner's kinks is key for a long lasting happy sexual life in a relationship. If you don't like his kinks and won't be willing to act on them, you will find no problem at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:05 PM
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Men’s libido is on sex. Women’s libido is on a particular man. A woman keeping her libido high for her boyfriend/husband while her boyfriend/husband dropping it over time is one of the most common problems a ltr face. We just don’t speak about it. Men who find themselves still having a high libido and their gfs/wives not is far more socially admissible so they’re very vocal, but the other way around is shamed upon and women are totally utterly terrified of it happening, so it’s buried undergroun…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:51 PM
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No one has the obligation to have sex if they don’t want to. No one has the obligation to wait for sex if they don’t want to. It’s the same f***ing logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:43 PM
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Men have very real physical limitations on how much sex they can have, it can wear you down quickly if you try to keep the rhythm for too long. Been there. Even if horny just let him have some time to breathe: for a man, having sex on women’s command is a must, so you can feel pressured to have sex just to comply. This is not discussed enough. Men don’t want to admit it because in their minds they’re not fulfilling their manly duties or even are not manly enough if they don’t want to fuck 24/7 w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:17 PM
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Never said you get to choose if bananas taste sweet or not for you, I agree with you on that, though the fact that’s set in stone it’s just not true. I’ve seen men being attractive to women in a setting and not even looked at in other settings. For example. My field is female dominated. Last job we were 5 guys out of a team of 30. We worked 10 to 12 hours a day, very demanding. 2 out of the 5 guys were gay. The 3 remaining ones got a lot of attention. I can assure none of us were particularly “s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 04:09 PM
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Let’s say you like sweet enough bananas, but then in your area bananas are not sweet enough for you. So you actually find bananas to be tasty for you only 1 out of 10 times. Does that mean that 9 out of 10 bananas are below average? No, because the average is not sweet enough bananas, you just don’t like average. 9 out of 10 bananas are below your threshold but are still average.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:59 PM
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Sorry English is not my native language, I mixed them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 02:47 AM
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That may be true for a ver recent specific time period. In the old days neither the guy not the girl had a say, it was all negotiated between the parents. Love was a non factor in marriage, it wasn’t even the purpose for neither of the partners. You can check how marriage worked in Rome if you doubt me. Let’s not rewrite history as if men were always free and got away with whatever they wanted being happy and careless, that’s not how patriarchy (which comes from Latin, from Rome) worked. What yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 02:45 PM
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Oh thanks goodness you read it then, so I could have your invaluable input.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 02:32 PM
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Thanks, you could just not read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 12:25 PM
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I don’t give a fuck what a random woman thinks of me in the internet, or several of them, but I do not like to own ideas which I don’t agree with. For example if you ask me why a racist hates X race I can explain to you the reasons I’ve heard around, but I will clearly state I don’t agree with them. I conduct myself loyal to MY beliefs, not yours. Now go jerk off alone in the corner and stop spreading your resent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 12:20 PM
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I was literally fishing for compliments for men, yes, I specifically said it over and over again. That’s literally the point of the post, to have women saying “I think X is nice” so men could feel identified or aspire to X. After several comments you come to a conclusion that was never hidden. I really don’t know what to say to you. You don’t want to say something nice about people don’t do it. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 10:20 PM
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Two wrongs don’t make a right. Someone must break the cycle. I would gladly chime in in a post about what what nice things could be said about women but I can’t create such a post because of the sub’s rules: only women can ask men. If you create that post I will be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 10:12 PM
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I totally disagree. Concentrating on what you communicate and what you want gets you nowhere if the people that you would like to date doesn’t find you attractive. It’s an approach that only serves people who’re already successful in dating and are having problems to get into ltr, which is not the target of this post. Improving as a human being and/or a man is not something to be frowned upon, nor having worth to the rest of the human beings and potential partners. The transactional innuendo onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 10:08 PM
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I understand your point, I just don't agree. You're thinking a woman is focusing in what they can get from a man, I think true love is actually a thing and they move on because they lost the guy they loved. We will never say "I agree with you" to each other and it's fine, we have different world views.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:14 PM
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Dude I'm treating you with respect. We don't hold the same opinion that doesn't mean one or the other is stupid, we just see things differently. For me it just shows that life goes on and people don't get stuck in someone they lost and I both embrace it and feel like it's desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:11 PM
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No one is abusing her in public. Not only that but rape is rare in general. Rape is not the only form of sexual abuse. I've heard stories of men pulling out the condom mid sex. To me it actually is rape, but not the traditional "I will aggressively force you to engage in sex" that I think you're describing. Those kind of risks exist. Like a guy being pushy to perform sexual acts in private. Those are serious threats that some women face in life. ​ Nope. There is no place on earth where not getti…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:09 PM
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So what? He dead. If I would die I would like my partner to move on with her life and be happy with someone else. Why would I want her to not be "riding another dick" if I'm dead?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:04 PM
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Thank you that's very nice!! I love how women really try to understand you and be empathetic, how they want to help but not just because "there's problem so me find solution" but because they care about you and how you feel. I love how their leadership isn't careless and just exploits everyone around them (off course there're also bad things, but this one seems to be a plus over usual manly leadership, I got to co-lead 30 people for 4 years with a female colleague an I learnt a lot from her and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:56 PM
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I've personally witnessed a 25 years old. I won't go down the story but I saw her holding her dying boyfriend's hands when his light was going out in agony for months and months.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:46 PM
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Agree to disagree again, you're projecting your prejudices against certain subset of men around here to all men. You're free to do so, but I find it to be way more hurtful and damaging than just answering the questions in a positive tune or going silent, so I fail to see how you're actually trying to stop from generating more hurt for men as you said in your prior comment. Somehow asking if women see worth in men, trying to create a safe-haven for nice answers, is hurtful to men but saying that …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:44 PM
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I've witnessed women holding hands to dying men to the very end, long after their savings run out and they struggled to make ends meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:37 PM
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I will pass on the d but I hope you find someone that appreciates it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:34 PM
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And now I also agree with you on this particular subject too lol. In my mind I was associating carnally attractive to just looks (sorry language barrier and how “carnal” would mean pure sexual lust on looks instead of encompassing other traits too).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:30 PM
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You’re not, I appreciate you taking your time to read and post a reply, that to me has value so today you had value to a person. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:26 PM
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Agree to disagree then. To me, if a hurt man thinks that he’s seen as worthless by women and suddenly reads women around this post saying things like I love how my partner is caring and a great cook he might think “hey I cook well, I have that going for me, I can be valued by that trait” or think “hey I would like to cook well and share it with a loving partner, maybe I should take cooking classes”. That would be positive and I genuinely can’t see how that would hurt him more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:22 PM
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I agree in most of your takes but disagree on this one… or maybe I’m an idiot lol. I’ve met women who weren’t attracted to me, we got to met each other (at college, at work) and suddenly they started being flirty. Bam, we were on for a ride. Now my assumption is that they didn’t find me attractive for my looks (I’m nothing special in that front) but they loved the traits women usually say I got when they finally met them (witty, leadership, not being pushed around attitude, charming in my own sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:19 PM
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I think those guys are rather young and had so little experience in relationships that they genuinely do not know what they’re wishing for. Not loving or not being loved by your partner is the recipe for a very sad life. They’re so desperate for some sex (and even affection) that they would trade happiness for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:09 PM
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I don’t show any interest I don’t have. Why would I? To trick someone for sex? Sex is overvalued and lots of guys around here would understand that if they got to the point of having enough sex to set it in the proper step of their values and goals. I’m 33, soon to be 34, I had my fun, I had sex with women I never thought would even look at me: nowadays if I had to meet with a woman I’m not really interested in and pretend I like her for a couple of hours or even dates just to have mediocre sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:00 PM
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I agree with your reply, I would only say that in point 3) bob should not settle for a woman who’s not aroused by him: life will be miserably. We all deserve someone that’s sexually attracted to us. Improve yourself and look for her dude! If she doesn’t want you for sex it’s not only her the one settling down for a life of misery, it’s also you!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:54 PM
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This is as bad as a prejudice as saying women who have sex early on are not worthy of a ltr. Whenever I date I make my move for sex instantly. I still want to get to know the girl and I’m looking for a potential ltr now that I had my fun and I’m tired of dating… but if I feel sexual attraction: why suppress it?? Furthermore, in my eyes a ltr has compatible sex as a necessity. I won’t be moving forward with a serious relationship if there’s no sex: I would be committing to a relationship it may a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:50 PM
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Interesting question. I don’t give a fuck who a woman dated before me as long as there’s no toxic behavior derived from it (i.e. being ridiculously jealous because the guy cheated on her, still in love with him, whatever, etc.) so I don’t give a crap about her dating chad, but I think I understand men who care so I will give it a try and explain them. 1) she gave her “best” to chad: men obsessed with who women date (which should be obsessed in who or how to date themselves) seem to put a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:31 PM
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Yes this sub is very toxic and the worst part is there’re several people, from both “sides” that have their preconceptions so ingrained into them that they can’t even realize how toxic their positions are. It can get under your skin. I tried to make a post asking for women to say something nice about men, either as a whole or individuals. Several women did that and I appreciated but I also appreciated how some women explained to me that we should be focusing in individual worth instead of genera…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:02 PM
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Did you find men who have worth to you? What do they bring to the table? That’s the aim of the post if you’re willing to participe. If all you have to contribute is trying to shut that down then you shot your shot already but I’m afraid that closing the post is out of your control. Thanks anyway for investing time in reading and writing a comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:49 PM
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Even if your point was true (which I don’t agree at all, i.e. there’s a very real threat of some sort of sexual abuse by heterosexual men to women when dating, which in my eyes is way way way worse than not getting laid for example) you have to take into consideration that to the millionaire not getting a 4th yacht his pain is very real and justified. It may seem ridiculous to you but it’s not to him. “So what, it’s still ridiculous” Well are you from America? Because not getting laid is certain…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:45 PM
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I hate dancing and you made me want to go full ham on a ceilis lol it sounds really fun
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:39 PM
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Then I helped you obtain that value it seems! You welcome!!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:16 PM
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Come on dude the idea of this post is to have women showing appreciation of what men in general/individuals bring to the table for them, to create a positive feedback loop. You’re just spreading the hatred that it’s common in other posts and you’re creating an environment in which women wouldn’t feel comfortable to give positive feedback: who wants to say something nice about someone who’s bashing on them. Let’s try and have a positive mindset here, can you devolve into “good luck living without…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:15 PM
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Thanks for your feedback. The idea for this post was to escape the usual discussion going on in the rest of the threads in ppd and try and get something nice out of it. Is there anything that you feel that’s positive from men in general/individuals that you value in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:12 PM
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I’m not talking about worth in an economical sense, I’m talking about worth as in “you have something valuable to offer to others”. It can be being supportive, helping cope with emotional disturbance, being fun, whatever. People don’t HAVE to have worth, that’s why I’m asking if there’s any in your eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:09 PM
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You're entitled to your answer as much as I'm entitled to have an opinion on it. My opinion is that you're being resentful and couldn't just say something nice and had to turn the topic into how to bash on some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 02:19 PM
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The aggressive stance was really uncalled for. This post was trying to be a safe-haven in the context of the rest of the discussions in here. You didn’t need to start calling out hypothetical people and bashing them… though I assume you may be trying to talk about me, which I don’t care if that’s the case because I don’t feel identified with your description. Furthermore I read every comment here, I had nice interactions and even I had one holding your same stance of “generalization is futile” w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 02:04 PM
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The first part I don’t think I properly understood you as I was pointing out exactly that thought after reading the original comment. What were you trying to point out? Sorry about “macro” lol, my brain somehow thought that a Latin word that’s usually used in Spanish (my native language) would be understandable in English, my bad. “Micro” would be seeing things at the individual level, with limited scope: like your experiences, your dates, your relationships, the men/women you get to know, etc. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:47 PM
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I don’t feel like you actually ended up appreciating men or, if your point is generalization are not appropriate, what specific men in your life bring to the table. The idea was to break the negative loop and try and get women to appreciate what positive things they feel men in general/as individuals bring to their life, so we can break the cycle of mutual hate just for a post. Maybe a man reading a comment where a woman says “hey I appreciate X” could feel identified and feel appreciated and nu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:36 PM
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I read it, but then again the question is: is there anything that you can point out as positive from men that they bring to the table?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:20 PM
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Lol I’m not even from America, I don’t give a fuck about celebrities and I know that will smith publicly acknowledged his wife cheating on him, I saw the interview where he was almost crying while she said to his face (for the whole world to see) that she needed to give love or whatever bullshit to her son’s friend. Johnny depp I saw the elevator cameras when amber heard was with James Franco. Are you really saying attractive men do not get cheated? But attractive women do get cheated right? Oh …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:16 PM
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I’m sorry but I think you ended up posting a comment that should have been posted in the discussion I linked. Maybe you should go over there and repost it. This thread is asking if men are worthless and if there’s something positive you can point out as from men that they bring to the table. Can you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:02 PM
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I really love how you just described what men in your life bring to the table for you. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:42 AM
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This conversation between the two of you devolved into a microcosm of literally what's happening in the other posts in PPD. The point of this post was trying to make a safe-haven for women to say something nice about men. I would have done the same the other way around but the rules forbid me to post questions for men. You two please stop it, you can't have your hate in any other post.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:33 AM
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This is the second time I read your comment and I'm still extracting info and thinking on it. I just wanted to thank you for this very interesting take that's actually quite impressive on dissecting the men and women dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:30 AM
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You must be a troll. You literally said men are worthless and then you say that everyone should be easier to deal with and positive... Also I'm glad that you consider both men and women worthless, so it's not a sexist thing, you just consider humanity worthless. Have you have any worth or are you as worthless as the rest of human beings?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:26 AM
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Those who aren't worthless, what do they add of value?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:15 AM
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Those are good traits, I'm looking forward to be that kind of man if I ever decide to have children, it's not feminizing at all it's how to be a good dad and that's part of being a man, a good man. Thank you for your thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:13 AM
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Thank for your feedback. Fortunately there're plenty women who do not think like that and men can still date them. Given that you don't seem to have anything positive to say about men, let me ask you another question if you're willing to answer: why are you on PPD? I mean, this sub is mostly dedicated to how men and women value and date each other, so if you see no value in men why are you here discussing that dynamic? Is it just to preach on how men are worthless?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:12 AM
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Those who aren't worthless, what do they contribute in your eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 03:32 AM
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Thank you for your feedback... it's actually the exact opposite of what I was expecting lol but you took your time and spoke your truth and I respect that. I hoped women would be able to point out things that they positively value from men and that to be a positive feedback to a positive cycle to men around here instead of the hating cycle that seems to be rampant. Reading that men are good for validation, taking shitty jobs and exposing themselves to danger sounds like men are used like tools t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:49 AM
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I hope everyone does. I feel like to love and be loved is the greatest of human experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:46 AM
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I disagree with you but there's no point in that discussion, you seem to have made your mind up and this post is actually trying to bring some positive feedback/interactions and I don't feel like arguing with you will bring neither of us to a good enjoyable spot, so I just really hope you live a happy life filled with the kind of love you deem worthy of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:41 AM
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That's exactly what I was hoping for! Now some men may read what you said and think "hey, I fit into some of those things, maybe I'm not a worthless shit in women's eyes around here after all" and break the negativity cycle or think "hey I want to be that guy, maybe I should nurture those traits instead of devolving into hating". Your comment is very well thought and enjoyable to read. Now I know why I remembered your username (I usually don't). I hope we get to discuss once again around here, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:37 AM
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I agree with you. You should ask the same questions to men, I would jump in and give my positive feedback. Now let us try and break the negative cycle of hating each other: is there anything in particular that you think men (as a gender/individuals) bring to the table that's positive for women/society in general? Maybe some guys will read your comment, feel identified and think "hey there're women who appreciate how I behave, maybe I shouldn't be so salty and aggressive around here".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:33 AM
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Well I at least appreciate you going straight to the point. There're some around here that are beating the bushes but seem to think alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:31 AM
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So your answer to my question would be "nothing" or "being easily manipulated"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:29 AM
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Jesus you two ended up saying men will be worthless eventually, do you realize that? Even now you seem to point out that the only valuable trait of a man is the sperm needed to procreate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:26 AM
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Thanks that's a good point, though I was thinking something that maybe is kind of somewhat more "personal"? Hard to explain, let me use an example: my male friends are not well suited for emotional support, while my female friends are really good and I appreciate that a lot. I also care a lot for them and help them out but from a different POV, like they usually tell me how they like to come to me to approach a problem in a solution oriented mindset, which is usually a trait associated to men (o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:20 AM
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Thank you for taking the time to read the post and make a thoughtful reply. Part of the objective was to defuse the negativity that goes around and get some men to identify with something positive and de-escalate the permanent war of the sexes, so let me re-ask you something in that tune: is there anything in particular that you think men (as a gender/individuals) bring to the table that's positive for women/society in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:10 AM
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This is a good take, thank you. Is there anything in particular that you think men (as a gender/individuals) bring to the table that's positive for women/society in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:06 AM
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Thank you for your feedback, let me re-ask you one of the questions: Is there anything in particular you feel men as a gender/individuals bring to the table that's positive?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:05 AM
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I think we had a prior conversation on this topic recently yes. Thank you for taking the time to read me and give us your feedback once again. I disagree with a couple of points here and there but I'm not trying to follow-up arguing in this point, I'm trying to build some positive feedback from women to men in general instead of what usually happens in this sub, so let me re-ask you: is there anything in particular that you appreciate that men are bringing to the table?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:03 AM
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But that's kind of the point, to get into what you feel like it's a positive contribution from men as a gender/individuals so we can have some positive feedback in PPD for a change.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:57 PM
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Greta Van Fleet rocks. They were in my country recently and I missed it ;( I'm glad there're men like your baby cousin stepping up for their children and being responsible, loving and caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:52 PM
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Thank you for taking the time to answer the post. Is there anything in particular you could point out as positive as coming from men as a gender or individuals? My idea is for some men to read comments saying "hey I think X is nice" and feel like identified and contributing and boost the positive feedback in this sub above the negative one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:50 PM
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Let's just hope there're women who see intrinsic value on men as a gender and men as individuals, that's what we're looking for in this post. Let's try to avoid jumping into the hate, we have the rest of the posts for that! I'm reading all comments and though I've yet to find one that points out specific positive traits/actions/etc. all of them are pointing out they don't feel like men are worthless and are saying there're good men who're worthy. I'm re-asking the question to try and get specifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:48 PM
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That's good to know. What do you think men, as a whole gender or as individuals, bring to the table that's positive?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:45 PM
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Thank you that's a very nice POV. I do the same in my life, it's just that in here you start to think in this "macro" POV which actually may be pretty damaging to one's perspective of real life people and is indeed sexist in and on itself. You made me think, thank you very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:43 PM
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Thank you I understand your pov and I agree, most men around here seem to be focused solely on who women will fuck which in turns mean that they're only valuable for the sex "they provide". It's actually mysoginistic if you see it that way (you may say "duh, isn't it obvious" but you helped me understand how some women see that and I was blind to it). I personally do care if you appreciate and admire X for his contributions regardless of sex and I would bet several men do. So, what do you apprec…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:41 PM
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Thank you for your reply. So what do you personally think, women (as a whole gender) are better than men? What do men bring to the table that's actually positive, if anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:36 PM
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Thank you for taking your time to address my post, I appreciate your feedback. Do you personally think women are better, as a whole gender, than men? What do men, as a whole gender and as individuals, bring to the table that's positive in your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:35 PM
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I like how this comment implies that in traditional gender roles gathering resources, even if a lot, is expendable, but the housewife work is somehow so special that any woman is extremely valuable. What's the reasoning behind that? That women can provide for themselves? Sure, I agree... I also have been living by myself for 7 years now and I didn't burst into flames for not having a woman, it's not like I NEED a woman to survive. I do need love and affection and even sex, but as the woman in yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 10:21 PM
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And so my comment and yours haha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 10:06 PM
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What is it then, I make a long explanation on why marriage is not about that, you tell me it’s not ONLY about that, I tell you then I agree what’s your point then, then you say that marriage is about that, then I tell you it’s not about that, and then you say it’s a major point. I really feel like you’re moving the goalpost with each comment. If you think that marriage was put into place to mainly socialize sex then just read my initial reply. If you think it’s part of it then yes, I agree, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:34 PM
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And I pointed out it wasn’t a solution targeted at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:23 PM
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Do not follow any advice in here. It’s cool for debate and discussion, although very very toxic, but not helpful on an individual level. You have to work around your own weak and strong points and find ways to be attractive to women: that’s not part of a meta debate. Sure some “just lift bro” are generally helpful, but it would be way better suited to just talk to female friends, male friends, etc. just asking them to be honest on what’s bad and what’s good about you and work on that. Furthermor…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:22 PM
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“Pretty much…” Read from there on your comment. If you’re now downplaying it to “I was saying it was a part of it but not the core” then I agree… though I don’t see the point you were trying to make in the first place then.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:09 PM
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I wrote a large comment on this itt but most people won’t read it I predict, so I want to make a short point clear. What a woman likes can’t be and should not be controlled. It’s a man’s job to either try and fit that standard or fall short and be alone. That being said, how a man feels when falling short and being alone also can’t be and should not be controlled. We can enforce that law is abided so he shouldn’t commit crimes, but you can’t expect him to repress all his resent and frustration a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:04 PM
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You do realize that marriage was originally coined as matrimony as in “mater” = mother in Latin. Then you have the “patrimony” that comes from “pater” = father in Latin. Equality in the workforce and the ability to have their own income for women is a very very very very recent status in human’s history. We’re literally still adapting as a species. Originally men were the ones able to gather resources (whether it originally be hunting or then working) and women were the ones to raise children an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:43 PM
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So pointing out the truth implies something must be enforced at a society level? I never jumped to that conclusion at all and I would not agree with it. You’re really trying to turn this into “men are trying to control and enforce sex to women” though, which is so far from reality and even opinions around here that I’m doubting you’re even being real and it’s not some kind of joke or way to discredit the discussion. The idea of state enforced intervention on this matter is equally deranged and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:26 PM
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If you’re a woman please just skip being in a relationship at all and just be single your whole life. You don’t need an overgrown child to care for and there’s no possible healthy outcome to approaching a relationship like that. If you’re a man please have some self respect and 1) do not expect women to care for you as if you were an overgrown child; and 2) stop bashing your “fellow” men as if you knew anything about how they’re instead of your very limited scope on the very limited sad cases yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:49 AM
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Never date a single parent. This applies to both sexes. Either the priority will be the kid or you’re dating someone with questionable morals. None is worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:41 AM
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Inb4 “because women realize being alone is better” “because men are useless alone so they need to remarry”. Ppd, the place where there’s no hate towards men. /edit: downvoted for literally predicting the majority of the answers lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:37 AM
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Your family is the first time you experience love and relationships. It digs deep roots in your understanding how those work. If you go to therapy (at least the kind of therapy that YOU at the center or the analysis and not specific situations/traits/behavior) the most important work you do is about that. You go back to how the child in you still sees love and relationships as a consequence of your understanding of how that worked at the first steps of your life. If you’re having trouble with ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 11:35 PM
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I agree with you, it’s hypocritical for men who also got high n counts (though most of them would argue it affects men and women differently) but that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t happen. I dated fit women and I’m not fit. I aim for that. Am I a hypocrite? Maybe, that doesn’t mean I should change my aim and get my standard to be women who’re not fit. On the same tune, all women I date specifically said to be hooked to how witty and intelligent I was, while also being charming and quick on my feet. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 10:55 PM
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Disclaimer: not my thoughts, just my analysis. I don’t think manosphere gives women’s thoughts/agency so much entity and value. I’ve seen those guys assume that women are acting conditioned by instincts, like a dog. Sure you can feel happy a random dog likes you, but you know it’s because it likes human, it liked the scent of you, it liked how you patted it, etc. It’s not like the dog is making a conscious decision to like you, it just happens because it’s conditioned to happen. Dog will also li…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 10:43 PM
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I disagree that not liking high n count means that the man is insecure. Some men seem to care about that because they think it affects pair bonding, for example. I don’t believe that and I don’t give a fuck as long as we’re testing each other if we’re moving from condoms to other kind of contraceptives that are open to stds, but still I understand that some men really think that prior partners in high quantities have a long lasting effect on being in a ltr. I used to think like that until I met …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 10:27 PM
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To me the problem is men are not feeling like exceptions. Sure, debating on ppd is fun (and frustrating) and is only possible if we analyze the macro, if we get to the data, the statistics, the general consensus, the “how it works in the majority of cases”, etc. But then you hit reality. If you go to reality while thinking “I’m an average guy, I’m rated 5/10, I should get a woman 5/10 or below” and be frustrated when a 4/10 doesn’t even look at you, you’re a complete idiot. On a daily basis you …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 10:17 PM
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Sure you can’t change your personality on a whim… but then again if you spent like 25 years of your life without “evolving” to a more attractive man it says a lot on how you’re surfing the human being experience. You can’t force a woman to like that “unevolved” man as much as you can’t force that man to change. … but you can change if you want. Like you can’t get physically taller but you can dress better, lift, whatever. It takes work and lots of effort, it takes getting out of your comfort zon…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 09:54 PM
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I’m not an archetypical alpha male and I did and do get this behavior from specific women who find me attractive. A woman who finds a man attractive will do this to get his attention, even if the man is not top 1% of males or whatever. I’ve had a woman tell me that she dressed like she did for me while being teasing and flirty. She was very hot and it was a social setting and she was certainly getting attention from several men (I’ve seen them approach her non stop) while she was “desperately” t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:47 PM
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What about if a guy can do both? Like he’s in for casual sex but in the end he wants a serious loving relationship and if a woman tells him that from the get go he will put his “serious guy” suit on and only move forward if really interested? To be honest as soon as I see a woman that’s in for casual sex I just go for casual but if she’s the “I’m not screwing around” attitude I immediately consider her differently and would only move forward if I’m interested in her as a potential partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 09:16 PM
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I think only the extreme cases of attractiveness pose a real influence in cheating. Like a guy who can’t get a girl interested for the life of him will probably not cheat as he won’t even be capable. A man who can fuck with any girl he wants will be exposed to so much temptation that he’s more probably going to fail in refraining himself. For the rest of us, our level of attraction to the opposite sex will more than likely be a non factor on the outcome of cheating or not. A person who’s insecur…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 09:07 PM
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You look at other girls’ feet and mentally categorize them as sexy/pretty? Why? Genuinely curious
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 08:58 PM
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Fuck me. Please tell me, do you think I will ever die? I’m on edge waiting for your answer please say no
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 08:55 PM
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So refreshing to see someone who exactly understands why they love their partner and doesn’t embellish him/her nor says some bullshit to point out how somewhat they’re so cool, nice, awesome, etc. For picking their own partner. I wish you both the very best, you deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 08:50 PM
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More like “I’d date someone who looks like Quasimodo if he’s fun, charming, high in social hierarchy, has a successful career, can make/has lots of money, do not take it from other people trying to push him around, is educated and polite but has a wild enough side to him, etc.” I can see that happening. What I described is a very attractive man who happens to be ugly. So what? Women will dig that. That’s the point of the original comment and I support it. He/she’s not saying “if you’re kind you’…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 08:47 PM
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Jesus you’re some kind of guru or something? You’re placing a very high risk bet there, please be careful
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 08:42 PM
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I just come to ppd and debate dating. It’s cathartic. Also if I’m actively dating I can get somewhat… focused… on the experience, as in: putting so much effort and energy that it gets to be my main activity besides my career. If I get one bad experience after another after another after… I just take some time, refocus on something else and come back when I feel like my negativity wore off. It’s never good to continue dating if you’re loaded by prior recent experiences. As soon as I get a couple …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 08:38 PM
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Since when being in the same generation of guys who invented a technology makes you better at it? Since when using a tech for a long time makes you better at it that someone that was born to it and inherently learnt to use it when he/she was a child? Who were better at riding bikes, the generation that invented it or the generation that got to rode them since they were children? I’m a lawyer and I know how to change my own ram cards in my pc: not because I’m a genius but because when I was born …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 07:44 PM
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Really? So you went blind in the dating world until you luckily met your wife? There obviously are ways of knowing someone is attracted to you before they act on it. People get to dates following those clues. Did you never see two people just talking at work and you would instantly know at least one of them was attracted to the other even if he/she didn’t act on it? I think you just don’t want to say “hey maybe you have a point there”. I did it a couple of comments before and I didn’t feel like …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 07:26 PM
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The unethical ones are the ones who act on their attraction but feeling attracted doesn’t make you unethical: you can’t control what you’re attracted to, you can only decide to either indulge it or suppress it. The question here is if there’re several women who’re attracted to guys who’re taken from the market. You seem to agree with that but you say those are the unethical ones. I would argue that the unethical ones are the one acting on it but there are ethical ones that are still attracted to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 07:07 PM
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To be honest, the incidence of posts in here which express profound disregard and disrespectful for women is much, much higher than the other way round. Funny if you ask me my experience I would say exactly the opposite (and I'm not playing cynic or dumb, I mean it). As I said I think we're biased to give too much importance to comments that are aimed to ourselves or group that we belong to and minimize the ill behavior of people in our own groups. ​ Posting that a woman can be perfectly happy w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 05:44 PM
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Indeed, I agree, but please take into consideration that if you have 9 well thought, well mannered and well intended comments and 1 just going "men are worthless" that's the one that will get to you as a man, that will leave an impression, same way a man bashing on all women will stand out from 9 more men just being well mannered and not ill intended. This is happening here and also happening all around in social media and the internet in general. So when I point out to those comments saying men…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 05:23 PM
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Yes maybe I'm being unfair, I just have a tendency to exaggerate a little to cause an effect lol sorry, it's just how my work in my country is done (I'm a lawyer and in here we're supposed to go "all in" with our arguments, it tends to get into you, sorry for that).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 05:09 PM
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Ask them further and get us their feedback, there lies the way to understand why they would give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 04:47 PM
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I figured by you being kind of butthurt lol. What's your take on why 50yo women gave up on dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 04:34 PM
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They can, they look so cute while doing so. I love it as much as when they double click a link instead of a simple click or when they right click "copy" and "paste" instead of ctrl+c ctrl+v. I'm not saying they're impaired, I'm saying that they adapted (the best they could) to a reality that most people around here were born to. That applies to tech and to social interactions. A woman going single again at her 50s doesn't have the same mindset nor tools than a 30 yo woman, not only because of ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 04:26 PM
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I would get this one step behind, trying to understand the "grand scheme" of things. For millennia (maybe millions of years? maybe since the first human?) men would not need to justify what they brought to the table, they just did and demanded "compensation" by force, whether it be at work or at home: I'm the provider, cook for me, wash my clothes, have unsatisfactory sex at my own terms, etc. Women started to understand that it was a bad deal and complained. Then complaints became action. Then …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 04:13 PM
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You’re only a creep if you behave like a creep. If you don’t and you start casual conversation you might get it going or you may be shut down. Maybe, if she shuts you down, she may think you’re a creep. So what? Let her have that thought. The “never approach” method is a certain way to end up miserably alone. You can’t approach women in college, they’re there to study, you can’t approach women in the gym, they’re there to work out, you can’t approach women in work, they’re there to work, and so …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 03:21 PM
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Lol is this some kind of women can’t do wrong maybe it’s men who’re in the wrong and saying it’s women? How about men who flirt with married women, in that case the woman is the responsible party or in that case it’s also the man’s fault? You’re dismissing anecdotal evidence by your own anecdotal evidence so at this point we’re just left with what people have witnessed in their own life to be true. I’m pretty confident on what my eyes saw.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 02:15 PM
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If I were to have the standard of only dating my type, that's how I'd end up alone and my type isn't even that high of a standard. That may be truth (I would argue that, but let's roll with it)... but then again, what says that your other "strategy" will get you to a better ending? If you give up on your standard you will end up dating a woman who you're not really into. Let's say she doesn't notice that (which would be a turn off for most women) or she's desperate enough to accept you as what s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 02:09 PM
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You have a very good point and I think that it explains a very good portion of what happens… but not all of it. I’ve also experienced from first hand interaction and from being a close friend to a guy undergoing that situation that women who were interested and flirty lose interest as soon as you get single again. I don’t have an advanced theory on why that happens, I’ve my suspicious that some women have an innate impulse to prove themselves by attracting men who are in theory attracted to some…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:46 PM
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I agree to that, and that supports my prior comments. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 12:59 PM
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So then it’s not most men who’re below average. Do you even remember what we’re discussing?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 12:57 PM
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Obviously you can be below average but most men can’t be below average or that wouldn’t be average. Average innately moves with how the majority is, that’s the point, the literal definition. And it’s not semantics only, it has a very deep meaning. If you tell the majority of men they’re below average you’re deluding yourself to think that “normal” is not what normal is, as you have higher expectations than reality. Should you change your expectations? Off course not, I celebrate women expecting …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 12:49 PM
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I was using a physical trait as an example only, I understand your point and agree with you, doesn’t change what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 12:37 PM
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Man doesn’t have standard. Man goes through life desperately trying to get laid. Woman sees man. Woman smells desperation. Woman not interested in man. Man tries. Woman rejects. Man more desperate. Man meets other woman. Woman smells desperation. Man tries to talk. Woman already rejected in mind. Man find other woman. Woman smells desperation. Friendzoned. You have to have a decent standard according to your self image and status. Sure there’re people who’re delusional but mostly our brains evol…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 12:11 PM
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Please remember that people over 50 were born and raised in a very different world, to the point that they can’t fully grasp and change their lives around current living conditions: just look at them using a mouse. Their reasons TO BE in a relationship and NOT TO BE are very, very, very, very, very different from ours. Trying to explain how they behave through current meta speech is ridiculous, but then again it seems like is the way to go nowadays since even the people in the columbus era gets …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:46 AM
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Saying “maybe if you do the dishes she will fuck you” sounds like the stupid excuse you give a child to be responsible. Maybe if you do your chores Santa will bring you that Xbox you want. Lol. Men who can’t handle their part of the housework in this day and age are just doing it wrong… yet saying something as stupid as “or she won’t want to fuck you” is childish and puts sex in currency status, which is the best way for both parties to lose interest in sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 09:56 PM
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As soon as I get into a relationship I get a flood of women (who up to that point wouldn’t mind if I was breathing) trying to jump on top of me. The more good looking my current girlfriend is, the more eager the “unethical” type is trying to get me. Instantly. I’m sorry but that sorority bs is just not there as much as there’s no brotherhood and most men would have sex with a married woman in a blink. Sure if it’s a shared social circle and you’re putting yourself into social risk people will th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 09:39 PM
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But you see, how much attractive you’re is inherently measured by your competition. I live in Argentina, I’m 6 feet tall, that makes me more attractive because the average here is 5.8 and women agree they like taller. Meanwhile in the Netherlands I was baffled how I was almost short. Sure enough, the average is 6+ To an Argentinian woman, surrounded by Argentinian men, I was tall and that’s attractive. To a woman in the Netherlands I’m slightly below average and not tall/attractive enough. If yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 09:08 PM
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The more methodically you approach dating the less chances you have to succeed. Women can see from a mile away when you’re some weirdo that thinks that there’s some sort of strategy to get her to like you as if she is an npc from a video game, where you can pull the best game plan and succeed. It IS weird. Imagine you’re sitting in front of a person who doesn’t give a fuck about you but seems to be following a protocol to get something from you. You would really trust and like that person, huh? …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 08:52 PM
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“Most men are below average” is a contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 08:37 PM
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Men have standards. Source: am a man. The no standards is a myth that came from the fact that in order to have sex men do have so low of an standard, like so so so low, that may as well be none existent compared to women’s. But ask a man to get married with a woman and you will see how quickly his standards appear on the table. Women are either less horny, or more relationship oriented, or not value sex as much as men (maybe because of availability), or whatever reason, so they get standards to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:29 PM
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Try again. And then again. Eventually it will get easier. It’s literally like everything else in life: you get better and it gets easier with practice. I’m 33 and I feel like until I was like 30 i felt a lot of pressure and nervousness when making a move for a girl I really liked (I got a hold on girls I liked but not “really liked” before that). Now whenever I meet a girl I really like my brain instantly activates a natural gravitational pull that brings me towards her and starts just going for…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 12:42 PM
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Three very close ones. One left the country to live abroad and relationship is not the same since then but I miss her and I cherish her very much. I have a couple more that are just the kind of friend you see several months apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:07 PM
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It also makes sense that a guy who doesn't care is probably more likely to make that approach, because... well, he doesn't care. If she turns him down, so what? He'll just go try another woman, he wasn't betting his happiness on this one woman being so special to him that he doesn't want to screw it up. You made an interesting point here. A man literally needs to stop idealizing women to be able to adapt himself to approach them. This also goes against some of the current meta speech in culture,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:44 PM
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Maybe. Maybe we just empathize better with people of our own gender so when a male friend of mine explains to me what's going on with X woman and I tell them "dude, you're being a coward, just go for it or you will be friendzoned" I understand him when he tells me that he doesn't want to scare her away and wants to build an emotional connection before making a move to not be seen as a disrespectful douche... I still don't agree with him and I tell him he will be crushed, but I do understand wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 02:00 PM
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I’m going to be 100% honest here. I’m not the most handsome man in the room NEVER. I don’t think I’m ugly and I got positive feedback that I consider to be true, but definitely I’m not going to be where feminine eyes are wandering in any specific gathering. Even then, I had women approaching me with clear sexual/romantic intentions 2 times in my life. Two. I’m 33 and I can remember both. First one I was 16 and second one was when I was approx. 20-22 years old. First one I was just baffled it was…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:49 PM
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I think that the women you described also know the truth deep down they just don’t want to accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:36 PM
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I think that the women you described also know the truth deep down they just don’t want to accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:36 PM
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You say some women get tricked into thinking they're special and they can "fix him" as a consequence of some thoughts pushed into them by society. I agree. Then you say some men play the "we're friends" route and are baffled when they finally come out with their feelings only to be rejected and that's due "to cowardice and the inability to express their desires". I disagree. Both cases are a consequence of what society tells people, even men going for the secret lover/friend scenario. Let me tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:23 PM
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I don’t have much to add but I wanted to thank you for your comment and the way you approach this matter: it’s the right way!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 12:45 PM
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Lol if you’re a good friend you told her “hey that’s now how men work”. That’s a ridiculous approach. If a man doesn’t make a move he either doesn’t like the woman (and won’t change by “”jealousy””) or he’s waiting for the right time/way to make a move… even maybe he’s building up courage. A woman who’s into something with someone else is literally the worst time possible to make a move, creating the worst way to make a move (is she expecting him to openly shit in this other guy’s mouth and thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 03:58 AM
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I agree with you but please consider "not all women are the same" works for both ends of the equation. Sure, there're women who do learn from their past mistakes and from being hurt by other people and evolve around that, coming out as better human beings and re-prioritizing people in their life as well as how their relationships work, which was the point of my comment.. yet there're some women who're just bad persons either right from the get go or as a consequence of the "learning" process of …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 03:28 AM
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Lol no why. That’s why you don’t want to hear about that: you will definitely have a mental image of whatever they’re describing and you don’t want to have that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:34 PM
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Our economy minister resigned yesterday. Does that answer your question?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:38 PM
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Do you want to be friends with someone that would consider you dating a friend of hers as “a pussyhound that threw away our friendship”? She doesn’t sound nice. She sounds like you looking for your happiness and a relationship comes second to her wishes on how other people in her life should interact: I cannot imagine a more toxic friendship than a friend controlling who you can date. If you lose that person from your life, so be it, she wasn’t worth it anyway. If you’re worried what would mean …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:07 PM
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I’m against number rating not because it can’t be done but because your 6 will never be my 6, I can guarantee you that So maybe that 10smv guy didn’t settle down for a 6smv girl, he just considered her to be 8 and he considered himself an 8. So a fair deal in his eye. This can happen the other way around. You may say otherwise but some of my male friends that were rated by other females friends as 4 or 5 (and I would agree lol) and they’re in a ltr with women way above that number under almost a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:59 PM
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I think that individuals (even toxic ones) are actually quite good at differentiating toxic vs healthy behavior, but for a heart broken woman is easier to shout toxic to a healthy handsome man instead of accepting that he’s just not into you, which in turn is validated by envious not handsome men who would rather have the healthy handsome man burst out of existence without salvation. Healthy handsome man won’t give a shit anyway, he already moved forward and left all the resentful people behind.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:51 PM
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If young women can’t see any of this until they have went through it, then you can’t expect young men to see it neither. Young people need to make their own experience themselves. An older person can share their knowledge but they will still not listen. I know I didn’t when it was my turn. I was angry about “girls chasing the bad guys” as much as the next commenter. A beautiful 25 yo female will not be dating an average 25 yo man: she either goes for top notch or 30+. On the other hand, a handso…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:38 PM
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Really? I'm starting to suspect this may be the truth as I've read it several times in this thread, but I never felt this way. Anyway, I never ask female friends to introduce me to her friends, I just make plans with them and eventually I get to meet her friends, which is not some sort of "plan" by me, it just happens. Like "hey wanna hang out?" "I'm with a friend actually" "cool, can I join you?" "sure let's meet at X". When I meet, if I like a friend of a friend I just go for it, I don't need …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:51 PM
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Tech evolves faster than humans. Tech evolves faster than culture. In the end, even if stigma with OLD is declining (or even in some parts of the world got to be part of the standard altogether), there's still a "it's better if you met your partner offline" mentality that won't go away in the short/mid term. This holds specially true for women in my eyes, as they seem to think that it's both more natural/organic (this would require a different discussion altogether) and safe, as there's a natura…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:40 PM
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Why are you assuming good looking guys are toxic? I'm a man btw. I think most good looking guys I met aren't toxic but rather are scarce and won't easily settle down. I don't think women get actively "damaged" by good looking guys and rather are heart broken because they don't seem to land the deal with Mr. Perfect. Off course there're douches but I don't think that there're more good looking douches than bad looking douches, it's just that good looking douches have better tools to cause harm so…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:13 PM
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I don't take you pointing out my reality as being rude. I would like to have a ltr and eventually have kids, but I don't feel like I'm obliged nor rushed to do so, hence why having a ltr must be an enhancement to my life, not a chore. That's why my approach is "let's have fun together and get to know each other" instead of "let's fill up a questionnaire to know if we're compatible so we can enter a ltr". If I don't find the woman fun to be with, why would I want to be with? If the clock is ticki…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:14 PM
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Off course there may be some women who can only handle dating that way and they deserve to find their counterpart and be happy. I wish them the best. But we both know we’re not talking about those women. We’re talking about women who can talk freely, who could enjoy a date and life, who could treat their dating partner as an equal and choose not to. Those women conduct an interview because they’re in a “no bullshit” attitude pretending the man to follow suit and be up to the task of being her bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 01:40 PM
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I’ve had dates were I was asked cutting questions and I still enjoyed the date and had fun. Specially if the date was in a flirty mood and the questions were in to get to know me better because I was clearly being liked as far as the date was (which in no way means that the question isn’t serious and is in fact testing for compatibility, on the contrary, it’s doing it the right way). There’s a difference between asking specific questions in specific times in the date and conducting the date as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:24 AM
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I've been agreeing with all your points and having a blast on your comments, but I do disagree in one specific point in this one: hotter girl does put you in the mindset for cumming faster. The first time I was with the hottest girl I ever was with in my life, which felt like a dream came true, I was holding up from like minute 2 lol. Experience surely helps in holding up, but it doesn't change the fact you're resisting the urge to cum. Luckily we got a better part of the year together so I got …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:08 AM
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I would refer to my first comment and how all the discussion evolved. I understand your point, but my point is that most men won't enjoy that approach even if they share the marriage goal, hence why they start aiming down in the age bracket where dating has an approach that is better adjusted to how they like it, regardless of end game.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:50 AM
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Agree to disagree I guess. I've several male friends who're in a ltr and some of them have/are having kids and they had the mindset I described you when dating. They were looking to have fun while getting to know women expecting to eventually get a match for a ltr. They then met the one they really enjoyed to be around and it devolved to a ltr when they organically found out who she was instead of a questionnaire. I can't remember a single one that went "oh yes I was interviewed by her and we fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:43 AM
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I'm not saying to play blind to both people intentions. It's only about the approach. I'm fine knowing about what she wants and being asked what I want. In my country/area there're several women who have some sort of "if you're only for casual sex swipe left", "I'm here only for a ltr", etc. That's cool by me: we all go in knowing what we're looking for. What I'm saying is a date should be about having fun, getting to know each other and get to know if we make each other feel good enough to be h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:12 AM
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In my eyes it actually is about both, the guy and the girl, feeling good. Isn't that what dating is about? It is if you ask 20-30 yo who just joined the "dating market" and it's about that for 40-50 yo who go back to the "dating market" after a divorce: applicable to both sexes, just talk with people in those age brackets. The only people who seem to think that feeling good and having fun is out of the equation/unnecessary in dating are some 30-40 women (not all by the way, I'm just trying to ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:31 AM
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I’m sorry but I didn’t fully understand your comment (language barrier maybe, I’m not from America). I’m not asking anyone to change their standards, I was just expressing my pov, which was actually about the dating approach, not standards. My point was not to accept men who don’t pass the test, it was that the test encourages good men not to take it and bad men to lie. You can disagree with me, I’m fine with that this is a discussion hub and I like it for that. If you or any other woman doesn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:06 PM
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They’re only hurting themselves. A guy who’s worthy won’t submit himself to the tests and exams of a random woman who he’s still not sure he really likes. It’s one sided and goes against the nature of dating and ltr, so he will not be interested. It’s not even fun. On the other hand, a guy who’s willing to take dating as tests to be passed must have underlying intentions: why would he submit to tests if not for the reward? The interviewer may think the reward is logically the job position, as it…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 07:32 PM
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I dated a girl and we had sex at the second date. That same girl confide to me that she didn’t do that often. So I was curious and asked why. She told me that the first time we dated I kissed her and I just went straight for the sexual kind of kissing. She liked it and then she figured I was up only for sex because of it. Like the date was nice but I wasn’t taking the time to get to know each other, just “went for it”. So since she was attracted to me she also went for it, taking it as casual fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:37 PM
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30+ will tell you, as you can read around here, that they already tried enough to know what they want and don’t want to waste time/energy, etc. Basically: if you want to get something with me you better be worth it, game up. Then a 30+ guy starts seeing that kind of dynamic as one sided, unfair and unworthy. There’re 2 of us in this tango: don’t expect me to be some sort of over the top “WOW” guy if you’re not some sort of over the top “WOW” girl. So this guy aims at younger women, who’re yet to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:15 PM
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I’m from Argentina bit*h, we pushed the British Invasion out of our territory successfully MUAHAHAHAHA laughs in poverty
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:59 PM
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This is ridiculously funny. It’s wrong. But funny as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:29 AM
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You do seem to understand it, you just don’t like the answer then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:20 AM
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Dude hear me out: if you keep going for women you don’t give a fuck about and you don’t even like you will feel like shit when even them don’t seem to like you. It’s like: this girl is ugly, has nothing of relevance going on in her life, her bio could be copy pasted from other hundreds but she doesn’t even reply to me. I must be shit. Forget about it. Women being shit or not will not change the fact that they will like you or not: do not waste time and energy in women you don’t like. Focus on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:32 AM
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Savage
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 06:40 PM
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I find the responses somewhat wholesome. Light hearted jokes from both sexes on this topic are refreshing giving how the discussions seem to be so combative around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:05 PM
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Being desperate for sex = doing anything for more chances of getting laid = conforming to what ANY woman wants = less desirable = less chances of getting laid. Giving sex it’s proper position in your life = respecting yourself to the point of not doing anything for more chances of getting laid = having standards on women (as you should) = more desirable = more chances of getting laid. Doing what they ask you to do is not a way to more chances of getting laid, that’s a plain out lie. You shouldn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:49 PM
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You sound like you’re more interested in “””winning””” a discussion that’s only happening in your head instead of having a discussion with people around to maybe learn something or change your pov. If that’s the case then you can have your win.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:32 PM
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How did he pretended? Was he being charming and enjoying the woman’s company and showing interest? That’s pretending? Lying is lying and if someone lies then he’s in the wrong. Not lying is not lying and then it’s not wrong. Women are not children. If a woman needs to know whether you’re going for a relationship or not before having sex she can ask. I’ve been asked before. If she doesn’t ask and she reciprocates on the attraction and has sex with me it’s because she freely wanted to do so: she d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:25 PM
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It's 100% true and I would encourage any man to dare and socialize with as many women as they can, no matter the purpose. Social skills are like any other skill: you get better with practice. Some people seem to be born with that skill but most people just trained it without knowing it. I was introverted when I was young then I went to law school and my life took a 180 degree. I was socializing like never before and my whole dating life got a HUGE boost... Though I do have a discrepancy with you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:15 AM
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More like: no man owes you a relationship just because you had sex with him. That's also entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:59 PM
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No man is under no obligation to go around announcing to all women "I'm not in love with you" before having sex. If a woman wants the man to be in love before having sex then she's the one to be asking that or making it clear. If no party is either "confessing" their love or demanding love to be "confessed" before sex then there's not such a thing as being used. If the man sounded like he really liked her and it died off it is what it is: no person, nor man nor woman, is under no obligation to k…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:54 PM
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Sorry language barrier I didn't know girls was derogative I thought it was ok as calling men "guys".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 05:06 PM
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That’s a fucking lot I was going to say you were crazy and just trying to push an agenda because I couldn’t believe it. 1 in 6 being victim of rape or attempt of rape is disgustingly high. I’ve seen the statistics in my country and it’s way less than that, we have 5k rapes a year (out of 50kk people) and to me it was a lot, you have 10 times more with 6 times the population. It’s too much
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 05:45 PM
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That’s your decision. I decided to go a different route. I don’t see the world as black and white as you do and I don’t think the only positive feedback to change behavior can come from therapy, so I like to do my best whenever I can to push people in the right direction. You don’t have to agree with me, you don’t have to do as I do. It’s your decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:53 PM
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You can take the stance you want, I want to help people but you don’t have to. You also don’t have to bash on them and further radicalize them. If you want them “gone” I would suggest ignoring them. Thank you for your long justification on why you decided your personal decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:46 PM
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25% of women were raped? Where? I genuinely ask. 1 in 4 women being raped is an astronomically crazy number. I’m from a third world country (Argentina) and our numbers are not even near that madness, which country are you from? We need to do something asap
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:31 PM
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Yes women are the ones who radicalized those men as much as men were the ones who radicalized some women who can’t trust men anymore because of their behavior. Sure, you can call a woman who hates all men and think they’re all cheaters or abusers a “crazy woman” or you can try and understand what happened to her and help her overcome the generalization and the pain that comes with the inability to trust 50% of humanity. You propose me to ignore her and “want her gone”. I don’t, I want her back t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:01 PM
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I’m talking where abortion is legal. I’m here to debate what I find to be debatable, this man abandoning infants poses no interest for me to debate as to me is simply deranged. You want me to condemn him? I condemn him. Now let’s move on to a serious discussion, or you just want me to leave it at that and avoid the real discussion you’re seemingly avoiding?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 03:40 PM
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Definitely you must look for that kind of women outside of OLD. I would know how I should move around in my country to look for that but I can't help you with your situation. You need to find a different tool though. Common acquaintances is always a good first step, just go for it, ask people you deem to be of your over all status to introduce you to women who are alike. Drop tinder, it's not the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 02:49 PM
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I was curious on knowing how your mind works. I don't want to say where I sit but in my country the economy is periodically in the shit so it's pretty easy to be top earner if you work with foreign entities... but you have to be quite smart and willing to sacrifice your life for it (i.e. I had to learn English by myself: my family didn't have the money when I was young so I had to work it out). So as soon as I saw an America top earner I wanted to know what kind of beast I was talking to, like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 02:29 PM
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Btw you can be a top earner but you seem to be missing a very obvious problem with how you are planning to achieve what you want to achieve. You said around you don’t care about looks because you’re not vain and also I figured you don’t want to say your $$ because you would attract women only to that… Then drop OLD dude. The apps are superficial as fuck, you only get to sell yourself through a couple of pics and a couple of lines: off course you will not be picked if you’re ugly. Girls will pick…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 02:06 PM
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Advertise it. Just do it and make a post about how it worked out, for science (and also to have fun, hey you’re already out of the market may as well force yourself inside with what you got, you can have some fun and then go back to your usual if you don’t want a girl who looks at you as a walking wallet). If you don’t know how to advertise just be very clear about your job (so they can see that “hey this dude must be an earner damn”) and drop a sort of line like “you can have all the money in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 01:58 PM
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They come to PPD and start gender bashing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 01:47 PM
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I don’t agree to abandoning infants but if abortion is legal in a particular place, the man wants abortion to happen and the woman decides to keep the baby, in my eyes the guy should not be responsible of the kid in anyway. Full disclosure I want to have kids sometime and I feel like it’s one of the highest point in life and I also think that only the woman has a say in abortion: yet pretending a guy to be a father when he doesn’t want to and there’re legal alternatives is deranged in my view (+…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 01:40 PM
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What’s the alternative? Is a person in age of consent not enough to consent? I mean what else can you ask more than consent to have sex? Like seriously, there’s a person freely deciding in engaging in sex with another person, what more should we ask for sex to be valid? The consequences of that are varied and everyone must assume them, as we do in every fucking thing in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 01:34 PM
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Fuck the shaming. That woman decided who she wanted to have sex with, freely. Good for her. I will decide who I want to date, freely. I’m not going to be shamed into dating someone who I don’t want to. If someone even dares to tell me I don’t have a reason to turn X person down for dating I would say shut the fuck up, you date her if you want, I will date who I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 01:30 PM
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I’m with Barney here. You will get better dude, just endure this temporary shit you got as a part of your life that you will eventually leave behind. I promise life will get better, but you need to push forward and help yourself. Be open to your therapist, it’s the only way
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 01:23 PM
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As all here already said there is no unconditional love and blah. But I want to focus on something more important: there’s a difference between holding love under certain conditions and holding love under permanent trial. I’m not going to say men or women do that more than the other… you judge it… but there’re certainly people that are permanently expecting their conditions to be met, as in “if he/she doesn’t fulfill my expectations then why should I be with him/her”. Like that’s not a relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 01:16 PM
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You’re overestimating how our “real feels” work. Acquired tastes are a thing. You didn’t really like your first coffee, no one did, but you learnt how to enjoy it and even now you can differentiate between sophisticated different tones in flavor. I was not into rough sex. I had a sexual partner who wanted to explore it and she got me to like it, even if it’s not my go to, whenever I find a girl who likes it my mind goes immediately to “oh fuck yeah, missed this cup of coffee, let’s drink it all”…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 01:07 PM
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Well said op!! I want a brunette with green eyes, a 10 for a face, natural perfect tits and ass, witty, sweet, emotionally stable, who focuses more on me than her, had maximum 2 sexual partners, young, millionaire… fuck you op. Standards are just a wishlist, off course people can modify their wishlist and be real about it. It’s not like “I will ONLY be happy if I get a mansion with an Olympic sized pool and a private zoo” is something to be hold as “standards”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 12:58 PM
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What? What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 12:50 PM
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People lie. People even lie to themselves. When you get to dating, people will lie to you, a lot. Most of them won’t even know they’re lying to you, it’s just that they want to believe their own lies. Don’t join them or you will be the one paying for the consequences of their lying, not them. If they are liars like in they know they’re lying and you catch them, drop them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 12:49 PM
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I don’t know if there are more of one or the other… there are too little of both. I will not praise myself but I’ve what I feel is common normal human decency, like treat others the way you want to be treated, respect other’s opinions, engage in honest discussion: I get praised by other people all the time. Even by just really willing to listen and get to know the girl, I know I’m several points up in her eyes (and not, simps who “listen” are not listening, they’re just posing for sex which they…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 12:37 PM
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Lol at the last part. “Hey you dipshit, come over here, yes you, the guy who’s a 6 all around. Now marry this 2 girl. SHUT UP. Marry her, she’s a good girl, she deserves a relationship, give it to her”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 12:20 PM
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That actually doesn’t work as well as you think. Are you familiar with moral hazard in marriages? People take their partner for granted. The marriage ends up being detrimental for the couple
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 03:53 AM
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"And I think proof of this is in how our sexual preferences change with age. When you're 20 and your libido is sky high only the finest specimens will activate that libido in full" Citation needed. When I was 20 I would have fucked anything with a hole. After 30s you got no time nor will for having sex with who you don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 01:04 AM
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I'm here to collect downvotes. Ok Americans, hear me out: people are not goods. You fucking kidding me? What's this shit about a "better one". It's not a mobile, it's a person. If you love the person you're with, there's no upgrade to be found outside. If you don't love the person you're with, then your problem is not outside. If you don't love the person but you're not technically "with", then you're not dumping shit. What's wrong with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 12:45 AM
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Have you ever talked with a girl while being vulnerable? I would argue top 20% confident women are as insecure as bottom 20% men. I will get downvoted by both sides but it's just the truth and I ain't got time to feed OP bullshit, he wants the truth. I would even argue impossible standards are a way to overcompensate their own insecurities. As soon as they meet a guy who's genuinely interested in getting to know her they just go for it, even if they don't find him attractive, but you gotta be ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 12:30 AM
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Yeah exactly I hope at least some of them read this and wrap their head around it. Worst part is that women can only work around their attraction levels to males with make-up, push-up bra, etc. ... if they're born ugly there's only so much they can do. Yet we have way way much more varied (and fun) tools and if you were born ugly you can still greatly vary your value. Instead of working on that, they just lock their minds on what they're lacking or what's not enough for women and bitch about how…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 12:20 AM
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I genuinely think that they lack so much empathy that they really can’t see it like “not being myself”, and I don’t mean like actually being a woman (which is hard as fuck if not even impossible), I mean they are unable of picturing not having their own standards. They just can’t see not thinking like they do, that’s why it genuinely breaks them, it’s like they expect others to be horny to what they are horny about and find it un fathomable when they don’t. “What do you mean you don’t want to fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 12:11 AM
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I’m sorry but I have to HARD agree on this. How do you even compare what’s a proper looks match between men and women. We know both genders have different standards: it’s deranged to make the mental exercise of “ok I will think like a woman and give myself an score from 1 to 10 ONLY for my looks. Then I will step back to being male and try to fuck girls who’re my score. Oh and by the way I’m not being biased while rating myself and all the other traits don’t matter, like I speak like I have a po…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 12:00 AM
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So let me get this straight: your personal experiences were better, but you discard them. You’re aware that there’re women who had personal experiences that were better than the ones you described, by virtue of your own personal experiences (unless you think you were the luckiest woman in the world), but you discard them. You know that there’re women who had very unfortunate experiences with men who don’t deserve to ever touch a girl, and those are the experiences you decide to give any entity a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:52 PM
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There's a saying in my country: "dúchalos con amor" = shower them with love. It's like your "kill them with kindness" (instead of being salty just be kind). That's all I tried to do, giving you a shower of my love. Sorry if I ever offended you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 09:38 PM
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Damn you can't even take a good bye girl, I was being honest about enjoying our talk. I hope the best things in life happen to you and you get to enjoy them with your full heart, every human deserves that and you deserve that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 09:26 PM
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Yeah you know you took the wrong turn. You had a chance at holding the high moral ground and you just wasted it. Now you're just desperate to not be wrong. It's ok, you're wrong anyway. I enjoyed our talk anyway. Have a nice day, american girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 09:08 PM
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Imagine going on in a rant about your country, realize you're talking with someone who's not from your country, downvote him, and expect the other person to still care about your country because, off course, it's America, all while calling their fellow countrymen chauvinists. At least the chauvinists tell me "I don't give a fuck about your crappy country" in the face instead of faking not thinking like that. Imagine being wrong and turning it back to the other person with the "now you mad bro" a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 09:03 PM
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Oh sorry I didn't think my country didn't matter to you. I'm sorry let's go back to only talk about America, that's not chauvinist at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 08:54 PM
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Because you talk about "living in a country..." and I live in Argentina. I'm confused as fuck. Or you want me to be mad of what happens in your country? That's chauvinistic
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 08:49 PM
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Lol wtf, are you talking about Alberto Fernández? I didn't even vote the guy and he literally is pro-feminism, he was the one who supported the law in favor of abortion like 2 years ago. What you talking about. Btw you don't have to think exactly as your President, did you think exactly as Trump + you do now with Biden? From all the arguments I've read around here going for the "YOUR PRESIDENT" is the wildest of all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 08:45 PM
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Damn imagine thinking this of most* of 50% of humanity. I would be mad too
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 08:33 PM
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Damn you need to pick your sexual partners better. I'm not into choking and I've been asked to do that twice. I wash my balls everyday: I even use perfume down there if I know I MAY have sex. Whenever I'm not able to make a woman cum I feel terrible about myself and do everything I can to achieve it: I enjoy seeing a girl cum, it makes me feel really nice, it's not a fulfilling sexual experience if I'm not able. We had so different experiences, like I must be an alien of a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 08:25 PM
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Damn imagine thinking this of 50% of humanity. I would be mad too
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 08:20 PM
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Damn son. I don’t even know if you re also offending my people actually lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 07:30 PM
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I feel the same way around. I try anyway… and sometimes fail. I’m not a saint and often end up being what I preach not to be. It’s tough. In the end you need to think what you’re here for. Are you here to fight men with your words? If so, then go ahead. If not, then just refocus. Not easy at all. Btw for tens of woman around here that are out to vilify me for not agreeing with her vision I have one who has an honest discussion with me, even if we don’t agree, like we two had here for example. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 06:34 PM
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I SAID CONSEQUENCES FOR.... HEAR ME?... CONSEQUE...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 06:10 PM
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Reality sings its own tune regardless of what we both think. Consequences for me for thinking what I think: zero. Consequences for…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 05:29 PM
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There are some women who focus on thinking the worst out of the majority of men and communicate that with their actions. At the end of the day, any good man is surely willing to avoid someone who sees him as a “fuck machine” without feelings, but the actual fuck machine will just play along because he can’t care less about those women opinion, he just wants sex. Ironically, thinking the worst of the majority of men will attract the worst men, confirming the premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 04:55 PM
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Yeah I actually never met a Mexican in my whole life. I’ve played some video games online but never in my life spoke to one, so actually Mexicans are even more foreign to me than to you. I was talking about other Latins (I’m not playing the “we’re not all the same!” Card, I don’t give a fuck lol, just pointing out that we must be experiencing different compas)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 04:24 PM
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Ok just be aware that not all men are like that and that it’s unfair to hold the rest of us under the “you ditched her just because you had what you wanted and moved on” premise just because things didn’t work out for a LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 04:22 PM
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Care to elaborate? Their vision is “women are here for sex, we want it, we want to conquer it from them, take it and leave them” your vision is “men see us as only here for sex, they want it, they want to conquer it from us, take it and leave us”. You two agree
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 04:00 PM
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If you think sex is something women gift to men and that any men not willing to commit afterwards is just pumping and dumping you’re validating their vision
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:48 PM
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The thought of getting somehow emotionally attached to a person who, in the end, may not feel the same is frightening. I get it. I have that fear too. I just don’t get why if a man suffers from it he just has to grow a pair, accept the girl owed him nothing and life goes on. But if it happens to a girl: then the guy is the devil, he used her, he lied to her (even if he didn’t tell a lie, even if she didn’t say a word, just because he ignored that she was looking at him with puppy loving eyes so …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 02:01 PM
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If the man is lying, it’s wrong. If the “marriage and kids” is only happening in the mind of the woman, without any kind of promise or even suggestion by the man, then it’s not wrong. If none of them said a single word about commitment and are just fucking around it is unfair to call one of the parties as using the other. If a woman fucks with a guy without commitment in mind and without saying a word about it she is just enjoying her sex life with this sexual partners. If it happens the other w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 01:42 PM
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Lol it’s delusional as fuck. Somehow it seems like all women are this super human who knows exactly what they want from moment zero and just decisively communicate it to the man: I just want to fuck with you/I want a serious commitment with you. Right before having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 01:12 PM
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You can do that, but be advised that I have met a girl who was specifically forthcoming about casual sex ONLY ONCE…. and she said that ONE MONTH after we were already fucking. If I were a girl would I be able to say I was being pumped and dumped? The other girls just never said a word… like we were knowing each other, having fun and knowing were things were going… like we’re human beings having very common dating interactions. Your “women are straight forward with casual sex” comes from a very o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 01:08 PM
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What if they said nothing about a relationship (as usually is, it’s not like women go around saying “I just want to fuck with you” lol, that’s delusional of you), have sex and a couple of months later just dies off? What if the girl wanted it to be a LTR but the guy finally didn’t and just ended up being casual sex? I mean no one promised nothing to anyone. They’re both adults deciding to engage in sex. I’ve seen girls dealing with this situation very poorly, attacking the guy saying it was a pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 01:01 PM
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There are several situations where both parties engaged in sex freely, without asking for anything. Then the male just didn’t want anything more than that… and somehow he is in the bad. That’s not a pump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 12:54 PM
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To be honest I never did. Also it was mostly a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 12:39 PM
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They decided to look at it that way: their lose. Do not join them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 12:38 PM
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Yeah you troll, I saw your comment history bashing dutch people, french people, calling yourself a queer, trolling pro-gun people, etc. Nice one, I enjoyed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:49 AM
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If you're a troll, I'm glad you made this thread, I had lots of fun. If you're serious, I'm sorry my dude but you were born to a specie that did not evolve past two gender reproduction and will not evolve in your lifetime. It was like yesterday that we just accepted "hey not everyone wants to fuck with the opposite gender". Going the "why do we want or even need sex for" route will take us so many years and years and years that the "people" having that discussion will think of us as we think of …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:43 AM
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I can't believe I'm reading this like we're explaining to an alien how it is to be human and have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:32 AM
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In any other thread: "you guys suck" "no, you girls suck" In this thread: "OP sucks" "yeah he sucks and also he crazy lol"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:31 AM
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Asexual people should be ruling the world. I mean, why aren't they doing it anyway? So much energy, so much clarity of thought, so much will driven actions not clouded by appealing to others. I want them in charge. I mean you read the guy, we would be having some empowered digital animal robots and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:29 AM
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You're 20-25 yo right? You will quickly grow out of that shit. Don't waste your younger years being "productive" all the time, been there.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:24 AM
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Yes please, really, do it. I would read it from the first letter to the last, no matter how long. /Edit: but not with some new age bullshit, give me some robots and super animals and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:21 AM
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Wtf am I reading
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:20 AM
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Fair point my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:15 AM
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I've never "dangled LTR in front of the chick so she opens her legs up sooner". Not once. I know some men do and I feel like they're scumbags and deserve no human interaction with girls at all. That doesn't mean: 1) that I'm really looking for a LTR but I'm not willing to commit to the first woman I meet, two weeks after we started dating; 2) that I'm going to repress my sexual attraction and willingness to have sex until I decide for a LTR, since to me both things are not tied. If the girl feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:13 AM
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I'm pretty surprised to be honest. I've been with girls from several nationalities from south america and all of them did pretty much focus on height, specifically naming it as a trait they liked on men. I'm 6'' and almost all of them made a comment about how they liked my height.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:07 AM
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It's ok, there's no good way out of that situation. We all hate being ghosted but truth is it's often times a way better solution than just telling the truth. You did just ok, as ok as we all did when we had to be the ghosting party.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 02:53 AM
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Could it be, hear me out on this, that maybe the man was truly trying to get to know the girl before committing and then found out they were not a match? Is any man who is not certain about a LTR with a particular girl he's dating just playing with her? It doesn't even have to mean the girl was "lacking", he just found out she is not the girl she was looking for, which just happens. Can happen the other way around and I would be ok with it. Maybe we're just vilifying a very natural process of da…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 02:49 AM
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This is actually a good point. If we don't feel like we were being used then why does it even matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 02:43 AM
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If the guy keeps dating a girl and having sex it does not necessarily means that he's just using her for sex you know. Sometimes you really are just getting to know her and are not sure yet if you two are a good fit. If a guy dates a girl for a couple of months, they have sex multiple times and he finally decides "hey we're not meant to be together" I wouldn't call that using her at all. It's not like you get to really know a girl in a couple of weeks, you need to keep it going for a time so you…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 02:41 AM
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You mean hispanic as latin? I'm from a latin american country: women definitely are height oriented when looking for male partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 02:35 AM
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Even though I had sex with girls I pretty much all-around liked 90% of the time, I don't always want her to stay. Sure I won't be rude and kick her out, but won't stop them if they want to leave... I just want to sleep comfortably alone. One of the best times of my life, though, was when one specific girl said she was leaving right after the first time we had sex. I wanted her to stay... but I didn't do anything to stop her. She was getting dressed while we were talking random shit. She dropped …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 02:14 AM
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I'm here to say I care a lot about pearllovespink's eyes. I hope she gets the best optometrist in town.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 02:01 AM
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This. A random girl can't get her eyes back from her mobile 30 seconds straight: sure as hell a simple average man can't compete with the instant dopamine reward she can get there, let alone end up trading it for sex. I'm not saying it's girls fault, not at all, it's just that we're all over stimulated to find the classic human being interactions fulfilling enough to make the necessary bonding... or at least that's what I got from reading you guys. I'm not in America and things are going in that…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 01:58 AM
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https://i.imgur.com/pP79Mio.jpeg
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 10:17 PM
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Almost every human is a constant ad for any type of male+female romantic/lover relationship. Almost everyone surrounding you is in many ways promoting those kind of relationships. It's the first thing you talk about with friends, it's the first thing that gets asked by your grandma when she sees you, it's the most debated personal point about famous people (from celebrities to politics), it's in an ad about perfumes where the girl walking around is sexually desired by the guys watching, it's eit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 02:24 PM
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I wrote a post about dismissive behavior telling people you don't believe a woman behaved in a particular way. I invite you to read it: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/tqag9e/no_woman_is_like_that_is_always_a_lie/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 02:14 PM
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Lol wat. So I take a cab to a destination, like get me to Rio do Janeiro pls. At some point while going to destination, some impossible traffic lies ahead. The cab tells me I must get out of the cab: he's not carrying me all the way through. I get down. I walk alone last 2 miles. I meet KirthWGersen in Rio. She asks me how I got there: "I walked". Kirth: "Really, you didn't take a cab?". "Oh I got in a cab but it didn't get me all the way through, so I never took a cab actually".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 02:12 PM
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Jesus Christ 53 people. There're more people participating in this thread and their answer would not be representative of society as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 02:04 PM
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It’s really hard for me to follow your logic in almost every comment. I see you’re very proud of your conclusions, given that you use “Strange” and that kind of “GOT YA!” expressions, but I’m truly lost around everything you said. I doubt anyone is able to follow you to your GOT YA moment, I would suggest trying to be more clear in your train of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 01:44 PM
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Haha thank you! Unfortunately that will probably not be the case as I’m in Argentina. I think I’m a better conversation partner in Spanish. I self learned English because I wanted to take some international works but I know I’m quite lacking in skills, specially social ones (I did get to learn some lawyer talkie talk, but not how to be charming in a date for example: I don’t think I would be able to pull my way of seducing a girl in English, though I would give it a try). I’m glad you enjoyed ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 01:27 PM
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Oh I do agree with most men around here that some average girls seem to think that they’re worth much more than they do, which also applies to below average girls thinking that they are worth way so much much more than they do. I date some of those girls whenever I find them attractive and they’re convinced that I’m good enough to give me a try. Most of the time I lose immediate interest as soon as the girl is asking stupid questions to see my supposed worth or is going through a list of traits …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 12:44 PM
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It’s alopecia, quit making it sound like it’s something serious that’s seriously affecting her life for fuck sake. I have a medical condition too: it’s called myopia. I use glasses for it. Comedians make jokes about it, I’m not going to be this butthurt. Btw what a nice way to have a high moral ground, looking down at us for not being conscious about her medical condition while calling us autistic. You can’t make a joke about a medical condition but you can use autism as an insult. What a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 12:29 PM
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I would suggest you read edit2. It’s not about the language and I fully understand that it means “most people”. Nevertheless it’s an argument that contributes nothing to a discussion and shuts down the real debate and makes invisible any person who lived very real similar interactions. If a thread is about a woman who, for example, lied to a guy to get him to commit there’s no real reason to join in for a “nobody lies for that” other than to shut down the experience, the reality of at least one …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 12:23 PM
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In my group of life-long friends there're 5 guys in total, including me. We're not Chads, and 4 of us ae either average or (I would hate to recognize) even below average. There's only 1 of us who's above average and he's far from top tier. We're all fucking. 4 of them are in serious relationships and I'm having casual sex. Before they were in serious relationships there was always at least 3 sexually active in any given time: the guy above average was having tons of casual sex and at least 2 wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 05:01 AM
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According to CDC a lot of people seem to be getting heads up... and down, and up, and down...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 04:43 AM
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You don't set the terms of this conversation neither. I made some simple questions that could easily disprove what I said about your position you just gotta say "yes, she's obliged to disclose she's having sex with a third party". If you don't want to do it, don't do it, I'm not following up for you, I'm following up so any guy reading can know your real intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 03:48 AM
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I'm not going to search through your comments' history but we can solve the situation right now. - Girl has FWB - Girl and guy are dating for months without exclusivity - Girl and guy start getting emotionally invested, while she keeps fucking with FWB Does girl have to disclose she's having casual sex with a third party while dating guy? - Girl and guy get in a serious monogamous relationship Does girl have to disclose she was having casual sex with a third party while dating before getting in …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 03:38 AM
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They gave me an article pointing out one specific situation. I'm not saying they're not right, I really don't know, but I didn't get that undeniable data yet. You missed the part were I said "It seems to me". I don't have it set in stone, I'm willing to change my view on this and I'm genuinely interested in doing so (though I did not put up the work to investigate myself to be honest).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 03:09 AM
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Yes it is. As I'm reading the article this is a particular event that happen specifically in that period of time and that's why they're wondering why, not something that happened all the time in humanity. Is that correct or you have info that it's always repeating itself? If that's the case I'm going to DNA test any (presumable mine) descendant no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 12:27 AM
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Don't hear at Pola_Lita, she would rather have you alone and miserable than risk a fellow woman be dating some nerdy guy that didn't "came out of the closet in time". If it were the other way around she would say to the girl that she's not obliged to disclose any information she doesn't feel like. I've seen her saying a girl who's emotionally investing in a guy and being emotionally invested by that guy is not in any way forced to disclose she's having sex with another party, but somehow you mus…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 12:16 AM
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Ok so what are we massively descendants of? It seems to me that, in our historical settings, the majority of men got to procreate. It seems that even today with the “I’m not dating single moms” men are still not wanting to father someone’s else descendants so women are still avoiding getting pregnant from the alpha male and prioritizing looking for an acceptable all around man to procreate. Sure there’s a tiny minority that are getting the seed of the Chads inside without thinking about it. Sure…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 12:09 AM
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You specifically said that men behaved better 100 years ago. Women evolved and men devolved from a “cultural evolution” point of view? If that’s your view then I’m done, you’re blind to men being both passively accepting those changes and actively changing themselves to evolve with them. If you’re seriously saying I’m behaving worst than a man 100 years ago, who would have shut down any chance a woman would even participate in this conversation at all, then I’m really done. There’s only so much …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 11:26 PM
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So it’s possible than only a tiny minority of men got to procreate… but is it what it actually happened? The abundance of difference in genes seems to point out the other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 11:17 PM
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Seriously? Are we going to go that route? If 100 years ago the men were behaving better then women would be advocating to go back to those relationship dynamics. They were shit. Specially for women. They were utter shit. That's why all of what we're living today kickstarted by women saying "hey men are treating us like shit".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 10:35 PM
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If that's true then you're either comfortably doing nothing to achieve success (as you're sure of your good genes) and I would like to read your feedback 10 years from now or you're helpless and can't actually do anything (as you're sure your genes are shit) to improve and I feel really sorry for you. Sometimes we need to question our most logic conclusions just to at least have a chance at being happy. Even if you keep thinking that way, act to prove it wrong: you are already pinned down to a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 10:33 PM
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I think we need to quit it with the "accept yourself" and "people should accept you" bullshit. If there's something you don't like about yourself and you can change it, change it. If there's something you like about yourself, keep it. If there's something you like about yourself that people don't seem to like: KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. No, your date doesn't have to know you jerk-off to furry shit or whatever weird shit you're into. She doesn't have to know you like comic figures and collect them. Yes…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 10:27 PM
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Would you please elaborate? I would think that the ever increase numbers of humans around was proof that everyone has a chance at fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 10:21 PM
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Depressing... or challenging? You say "interpersonal performance" is the key factor, which is refreshing, because that's exactly what I think and seems to be completely ignored around here. If the main trait can be greatly improved by experience then the pyramidal distribution of "Chadness" is not as static as people tend to describe it. Sure, a bottom 5% will not get to top 5% just because he learnt how to be charming, but he can severely improve his position nonetheless. To him, from his very …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 10:20 PM
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If hypergamy is real (which is OP's premise and I do agree, even if I disagree with RP on what to do out of and with it) then no matter how much you increase the bar, the bottom 20% would be out of the game nevertheless. As a matter of fact, men as a group would have the collective interest of keeping the bar low, given that increasing it puts more and more pressure to all individuals but grants exactly the same collective results. The only reason the bar gets higher and higher (which happens, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 10:08 PM
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It is!!! I'm very happy for you, enjoy it!!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 08:39 PM
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In this case people unsuccessful with dating can’t fathom being successful and vice versa. That’s the problem. They can’t understand each other. Women who always had a chance at dating see unsuccessful men at dating and go “oh it’s not a big deal just enjoy the rest of your life!” Which is insulting as fuck (sorry let me put more emphasis: INSULTING AS FUCK) to those men, doing exactly the opposite of helping them. It sounds more like making fun of them. Then men who never had a chance at dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 08:01 PM
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I like how you ended it all with “I’m too self absorbed”. Why don’t you start caring and focusing on others problems? At least for a bit. It will take pressure out of yourself and also will show you how everyone has a degree of your worries in his/her mind, easing up the weight to carry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:53 PM
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I agree and relate to you: I'm literally living the very same thing but from the opposite side of the table, with some women (unluckily the majority) who go around here shutting down any criticism and any deviation from their POV, being aggressive, insulting, non-empathic, dismissive, etc. It's really really hard to keep an open mind and open heart, I feel like any discussion I join I'm being pushed more to the radicalization, even if I try my best not to indulge. You see, hate generate more hat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:45 PM
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Yes you can go into practical solutions mode, but have you tried showing her your feelings? Like "I don't really know how I feel about this girl yet": they're usually quite good at helping you sort that out, even if they don't like your conclusions. There is where they usually shine at empathy while a guy would say "don't be a pussy bro just fuck her in the ass". Idk, I have both male and female friends and I ask them for opinions/advices, but I know where they shine. If a girl cheated on me I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 06:41 PM
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Be assertive but not aggressive. Be clear in that you’re a sexual animal and you wish to have sex with females that you find attractive, without being desperate to have sex. Look at her with clear intentions of getting to know more of her intellectually and physically, without letting her know that she “has you” (because she really shouldn’t: if she fucks it up you should be willing to leave, why would you want to invest in a girl that doesn’t deserve it). Those are some examples of how I saw ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 06:28 PM
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I hope to see you around pointing out that they shouldn’t be labeling people for behavior that they’re not part of when someone says incel or slut, for example. If not, it sounds more like you felt personally attacked by this particular labeling since you ignore all the rest of the labeling. See you around!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 06:22 PM
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I lived the situation you’re describing. Many women around here immediately jump to your throat when reading that men in their 30s can date women in their 20s and that both seem to be enjoying it. Studies about how partners in marriages are in the same age bracket (disregarding that many marriages started way pre-30 and that people post-30 are less likely to have a marriage), saying obvious things like “your looks don’t get better over time” as it was the only (or even more important) measure of…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 06:15 PM
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Oh we all do that all the time. Incel, cuck, cheater, cheated, abuser, abused, slut, we’re literally doing that all the time around here, labeling people for any kind of thing that we’re not part of. If that surprises you you will be surprised 5 out of 3 posts (no, I didn’t mistake the order of the numbers)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 06:07 PM
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Those communities instantly lash out on women who don’t agree with their worldview, also shutting down conversation thus excluding women from debate. Saying otherwise would be disingenuous, no one wants to join a debate space where the immense majority of the participants are immediately intolerant to you and your POV, while a couple of them are even plain disrespectful to you. Those spaces are too niche and too late for a woman to engage in honest intelectual debate with its participants. I tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:56 PM
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If it’s the term that bothers you then I’m sorry for using it incorrectly. I was trying to describe a man who is publicly shamed by his wife who is going around being proud of her extra marital sex and relationships while stating he has no say in the matter and while he is (to me, you don’t have to agree) clearly uncomfortable with the situation. I found no better word than cuck, so I used cuck because it was the one-word definition that better matched the situation. If you have a better word pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:51 PM
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Thank you for acknowledging it. They’re upvoting your original comment saying that no people are saying that and downvoting my comment showing the link to the post where people were saying that. It really saddens me that instead of being intellectually honest (as you were right in this comment) they choose to simply kick the truth under the rug.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:32 PM
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GOT YA! - moment? Check I’m so smart that it was me, from hundreds of people who gave their take in the thread, who totally debunked your theory with a couple of questions - moment? Check Ignoring all the rest of the comments and debates in the thread and focusing only in his/her own comment - moment? Check Going around with technicalities like “show me the exact combination of words” “it’s technically half truth”, etc just to feel like “I was right all along” - moment? Check Useless energy cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:24 PM
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I made a fool out of myself lol sorry. Have a nice day
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:07 PM
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Use whatever term you want, what’s important is all I’ve described (which you did not argue against) making him a person publicly humiliated by his own wife. To me that’s a cuck but hey I can be using the wrong term, I just don’t know a better one for someone with such a low self respect and lack of manliness, would you suggest me another one to use?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:06 PM
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Off course and any third party can look at that and say “yeah he a cuck”. They can have whatever arrangement they like, we can see him as a cuck all we like.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:02 PM
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He should have immediately walked out of a relationship where one of the partners is publicly humiliating the other and having not only physical but also emotional connections to third parties, while publicly stating that he doesn’t have a say on the matter, as I’m sure you would advice a female friend if her abusing partner was behaving in such a disrespectful way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:55 PM
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He may or may not be having extramarital sex. Regardless of that, her wife went around bragging about how she not only had lovers but also “entanglements” (meaning some kind of convoluted emotional relationship) + in a public talk she specifically said to his face (with the whole world to see) that he has no say in the matter and she’s the only party that gets a say on who she fucks and “entangles” with, all while you could see his depressed puppy face while saying “yes off course”. All of that …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:51 PM
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I like your brutal honesty in any topic. You don’t even try to go PC nor word your thoughts in a certain way that match a worldview: you just say what you think, no matter if it helps feminists/RP/whatever viewpoint on the matter. Keep it up!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:46 PM
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Yes he did! Which makes me really happy. He had to endure and put up with much shitty behavior... but in the end I don't blame his ex and he doesn't either. Divorces are hard as fuck and it's hard for people to accept their life got a turn for the worst (before eventually being for the best), specially when nobody seems to be at fault. I mean if you're the party that's producing the marriage to go under then you can have your guilt. If it's the other party then you can have your anger. If no par…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:40 PM
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I think I listed more than economic and financial reasons in my comment. You can focus on that but I did not. I had a friend going through a divorce with 2 little children. His main concern was not the money he was going to lose but the fact that his soon to be ex-wife was very mad at him (he did not cheat, he did not abuse her, etc., they both lost interest on each other he just put the discussion on the table) and was prone to shit-talk about him in front of the kids, so he was afraid he was g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:21 PM
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So let me get this straight: someone seeking active third party help for his/her issues is somehow proof that their issues are less serious than for all the other people not looking for help? Or are you saying that since they got antidepressants then they ceased to be unhappy because some chemical in their brain stopped the feeling altogether? What a twisted way to try and say someone with antidepressants is less unhappy than the rest of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:18 PM
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You can be happy if you were once successful. You can't be happy if you were never successful. I wasn't very talented at dating when I was young. I got to develop my good traits over time and suddenly (and I mean it, I don't know when it happened) I was attractive to women. Then my dating game went up a lot. When I was untalented I was very unhappy, it played a big role in my life. When I got to a decent+ level of dating I was very happy, it played a big role in my life. Some years later it just…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:11 PM
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So him being a cuck didn't matter to korean/japanese when analyzing the situation? I'm not from America also (I'm from Argentina) and though I didn't go around seeing how my country reacted I'm sure that the first thought would be "he's a cuck, he doesn't get to be so protective and 'manly' over his wife honor".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:59 PM
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Genuinely asking: how do they (korean + japanese) feel about the whole cuck situation? (his wife being a proud cheater telling it to the whole world and him being "if it makes her happy I'm happy" about it).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:47 PM
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You can't put all hurt men in one single bag of "want to stay wounded". You can't also put all men in this statement: "when we address the problem we’re told we’re just doing it for validation and attention and that we don’t care about men, we only care about Chad". I don't think like that, I would be grateful if you address the problem and I don't think you only care about Chad. It seems to me like you're thinking that we all men think in unison, which seems childish to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:40 PM
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I was making a joke, sorry you didn't find it funny ;(
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:28 PM
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Saying that the "only reason they’re complaining now is because we’re starting to not care and we’re acting accordingly" show how little effort you made to understand them. It would be more helpful to address their problems, even if you disagree and what you have to say is "hey I disagree, to me it's X" is way more valuable and constructive than "you're not worthy of my time bye, keep hating us". But then again you're not forced to do so, just don't be surprised if it creates more hateful and re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:23 PM
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Why take the time to state that lol, it makes you seem like a child, but then again all your previous comments served the same purpose: show how immature and out of touch of real women you’re. See you around
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:21 PM
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I know where you’re going with this but we all know some victim blaming would help in most cases, it’s just that it was totally shut down by current PC standards and now we lost a valuable tool to help resolve many situations. More than often, there were things a victim could have done way better to avoid or minimize the impact of a negative situation. If you shut that conversation down as “victim blaming” you’re giving that person ZERO chances of improving and better deal with this kind of situ…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 01:56 PM
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Why should we care? She’s unhappy enough, removing support or whatever wouldn’t help. Let her have her support while you grow a pair of balls and move on to a happier life, as the comment you’re replying to suggests. I actually think that not having a safety net for men in most situations is a blessing and a curse. Yes you don’t get the real help you’re in need of and yes you’re stigmatized for even needing it… but you also don’t have the option to make the same mistake 6 times. You NEED to lear…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 01:51 PM
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You’re reducing reality to a simplification to meet your expectations: men = asshole, women = abused by men. You will find yourself in a bad spot if you fail to open your mind and see how roles are not static. Many females are assholes, many males are just fools in a particular situation and many men are abused by women, it just happens in a different way then when it happens the other way around. I’m not going to change your view of the world through a comment , though I do hope you keep an ope…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 01:37 PM
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I don’t need one though I would like one. It would look like two persons in love with each other working together through the difficulties of life. What it would not look like is like I’m her servant who was created by god to meet her needs and wishes (as I’ve seen some women around here seem to think of relationships). Like who would voluntarily enter a relationship were the focus is only in the other person and your expectations and emotions are discarded? I would not agree to any kind of rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 01:21 PM
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I don’t know what other men are defending, I don’t consult them before having my opinion. I tend to agree with you: the man has way more to lose in a divorce. He will more than often lose control of a lot of important life decisions for his descendants, he may even be vilified in their eyes (damaging a relationship that SHOULD NOT be damaged for a divorce), he will get a severe penalty from a economic and financial perspective, he may be seen as “giving up and abandoning” his family (which is mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 01:12 PM
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Off course not because I’m not a sociopath. I don’t need to test her, I either like what she has to offer or not. I don’t need to artificially detect her flaws so I can lose attraction to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 12:58 PM
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Irl women are actually empathetic and listen to male problems if you’re having an honest conversation. I do all the time and I also enjoy hearing theirs and giving feedback. It’s rare to have a shitty discussion about these matters, even if we disagree. The ones around here seem to be totally shut down, detached from seeing males as humans altogether. There’re like 5 women I saw around really trying to think of the men’s position. The rest are an absolute “bashing down shutting down” machine of …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 12:55 PM
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You would seriously betray a friend for some pussy? You don’t deserve neither. No, the rest of the world isn’t as weak as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 12:42 PM
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Female friends have invaluable feedback on what you can do to attract women in general and a woman in particular. Female friends are shoulder you can can cry on. You can show how vulnerable you feel in a particular situation. You can’t do that with male friends and even in a relationship you will have your doubts to go full vulnerable if you’re feeling that way and it’s not a 20 years marriage. Female friends go out of their way to make you feel appreciated. No one gave me as many gifts and was …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 12:40 PM
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Why not? I had many girls do this. To have a healthy sexual relationship I found that the steps are to be the following (in order): 1) have sex (this step is obviously recurring through the following ones); 2) talk about what both of us like in general (so you can kick-start exploring in bed, which is more fun); 3) talk about past sex lives; 4) conclude there's sexual compatibility... or not. Then we can move on to either just having sex until bored and moving on with life or "hey I want to have…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:05 AM
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Well I for once hug my female friends in front of someone I'm dating and I sure as hell will try some fries from her plate if I'm hungry. It seems like I'm testing her masculinity (?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:48 AM
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You failed the test bro, you cuck now (obviously a joke)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:46 AM
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If a girl is saying to me some kind of "I bet you use that line with every girl" bullshit I surely will laugh at it. How old is she? They must be instant wet when playing this supposed shit-test on me because I'm going to laugh at them and ignore them all they long. I got no time to nor interest to indulge and entertain whatever shit-tests are and are supposed to prove.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:43 AM
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Both. But we're having a discussion about women being more understanding of these kind of guys, so in this case I'm talking about some women who shut down any complain from them who should be more understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:35 AM
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Oh sure some people will like X, others will like Z. I had girls who liked being dominated and wanted to feel like a cum-dump. I don't judge them. To each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:33 AM
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That's my point, they should be more understanding instead of shutting them down. /edit: to the silent downvoters: you do realize you’re illustrating my point? Instead of being understanding and engaging in conversation you downvote such request to make it invisible. If you can’t see the irony in that… it’s not like I’m insulting or anything, I literally said “be more understanding” which is like a universal good trait. You’re doing exactly as I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:30 AM
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I like your take but this is not the complete truth. Men also cheat to leave, they just don't know it yet. As soon as a couple starts therapy, the first thing the therapist does is talking with them separately. The first thing they ask to the man is "are you having sex outside of the couple?". Cheating for a guy greatly reduces if not directly kills his attraction to his partner. He already was feeling like "I would rather have sex with any other woman than my gf/wife" (it's tough to read but it…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:21 AM
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100% Agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:14 AM
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Imagine cumming on a random girl's face while being in a serious relationship because you're following Patrickstarho's advice. I mean if you do that, please send a link to this comments exchange to your gf as an explanation. If you're as deranged you may as well have her join the debate. (btw it's a very thrilling experience: I wouldn't trade it for a good woman's love, but it definitely is as thrilling as the fantasy and it still is after many times of enacting it; source: the satisfaction of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:11 AM
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You have to be a troll. I'm upvoting you because you're a very decent one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:07 AM
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Imagine acknowledging a gender problem just to turn it against it lol. I would say that both men and women cheating is equally wrong because it's not about "how much interest" you really have in a relationship, it's just about being dishonest, I don't care if such dishonesty was easy or hard: you're just being dishonest. To me it's over. I don't even care if my partner was with someone who she really liked or a ons: if we agreed in a monogamous relationship and you fail then I'm not forgiving it…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:05 AM
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Your way of being sarcastic is slappable
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:02 AM
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Well you know how they say it takes one to know one
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 01:36 AM
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alopecia You make it sound like it's the end of the world and he shouldn't be making fun of this. I'm fat. If I go to a comedy show and the comedian makes a joke about me being fat I'm not going to stand up and cuck slap him/her as Will did.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 01:35 AM
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You must keep her name out of your mouth... though you can put any other attribute of hers in your mouth and Will will be ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 01:31 AM
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I see people slapping you for much less indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 01:30 AM
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YOU GET WILL'S WIFE OUT OF YOUR MOUTH BUDDY OR HE WILL CUCK SLAP YOU TO HELL
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 01:27 AM
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What about women who also do fwb? All you described doesn't apply to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 01:19 AM
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Then some men start to radicalize and exclude women from these discussions, further radicalizing their POVs. Then incl, RP, BlackPills, etc. spaces are created and they wonder why are they so hateful and self-excluded from both gender interactions. You want them to understand women? Start understanding them, lol, it's so obvious I just can't wrap my head around some women that go on and on suppressing any voice that doesn't say what they want and then wonder why radicalization exists (and I want…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 12:44 AM
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You know what, have at it: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/toag67/comment/i25cnqc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 Here there's a woman specifically saying "There’s no way a woman fucking this much is going to go 2 months without fucking the man she’s actually interested in.". A psychopath would definitely be able to go 2 or even more months without fucking the man she's actually interested in to manipulate him. She said a version of "no woman is like that". You wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 12:30 AM
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I'm a gamer, I can relate to that, it sounds really cool. Maybe there's some kind of ring in those games and you could get one done? Doesn't have to be gold or any expensive material: what it resembles is what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 12:24 AM
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Did you read the comment you're replying to? If you do not read me then why would I keep talking to you. I did not say they were examples of that. You're entirely ignoring my words. I ask you again: "if I provide proof of one woman denying that something could in fact happen will it be enough? Or are you going to follow with "one example is not enough" "the described situation is too implausible" "she's no exactly saying what you said in the title"? If you promise me you won't be making up excus…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 12:19 AM
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Ok if I provide proof of one woman denying that something could in fact happen will it be enough? Or are you going to follow with "one example is not enough" "the described situation is too implausible" "she's no exactly saying what you said in the title"? If you promise me you won't be making up excuses then I will provide an example. If you will keep moving the post an inch every time + https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman then I'm not losing my time. You can have your win in the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 12:12 AM
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Oh you're one of those. You may think you're original but I had this conversation 3 times in this thread already (including links), you're more than happy to read them or see for my /edit3 in OP, which addresses this situation. That's all I'm willing to engage with the "give me a post that says this exact say word combination I'm looking for or you're lying" type of person. It's like discussing with a child. Have a nice night.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 11:51 PM
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When did I say people are denying that crimes are committed?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 11:34 PM
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From that? Nothing. It's not what I'm asking for so I don't know why you point that out. My point is to engage in whatever debate discussed on those particular topics. If the topic is "some girl did X to me" talk about X, voice your opinion, etc., instead of "nobody does X".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 11:25 PM
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They're different crimes. You can't use hate crimes as a reason why you should be fearfull of dating women and having sex with women, because they might lie about it being rape. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No\_true\_Scotsman
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 11:19 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No\_true\_Scotsman
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 11:19 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No\_true\_Scotsman
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 11:18 PM
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The end-game of both arguments is to shut conversation down and make whatever described behavior invisible, instead of debating about it. Telling someone “that’s so few it’s not worth discussing/is irrelevant” is the same as saying that same person "shut up about it, not gonna talk about it, do not care how you feel about it". If someone has so little to offer to conversation as to say "it's irrelevant having it" then his/her best course of action would be avoiding engaging in conversation altog…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 11:15 PM
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Thank you for your feedback. I’m glad you got better. Don’t lie to people! (Not saying you were doing it, just a general reminder for all of us in the dating world)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 10:45 PM
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I didn’t understand any word of what you said, sorry. I don’t expect one or the other: I go on a date and see if I like a girl and then if I want to move forward with sex. Then I will see if I want to move forward with a relationship. That’s why it baffles me that you propose that it has to be either: sexual tension OR emotional connection. Whenever I start building emotional connection I already have sexual tension or why would I even want to have an emotional connection with someone that I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 10:41 PM
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My point was not that men age like wine and women like vinager. I was opposing that. My point is that, in dating, men focus on traits associated with youth and women focus traits associated with maturity. I think the debate has been good enough this far but I’m not going into scrutinizing numbers in different studies: I don’t say they don’t hold your position, but I would like to see if the “in same age bracket” still applies for marriages starting when one of the partners is 30+, for example, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 10:30 PM
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I think they truly are oblivious but certainly some narcissistic traits are present. The narcissist’s prayer seems to fit like a glove with that kind of behavior: That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it. Most of them just drop the conversation altogether after pointed out about their ridiculous behavior though. I don’t know if they leave with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 10:15 PM
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Some people can't see the contradiction in doing the very same thing I'm trying to oppose in this very specific thread to try and debunk me. My point was "don't go around saying people don't do X stuff to shut down conversation" and their answer is "people don't do that". It's frustrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 09:07 PM
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GOT YA! Be on your way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 08:55 PM
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If you want my explanation about how I meant not the literal formula "No woman is like that" I invite you to read edit2. If you want link with examples that are relevant to that logic: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/tqag9e/comment/i2g0991/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 If you want to reduce all this debate to "no one every used that exact formula of words so all you said is incorrect" then I already gave up in trying to have an honest debate with other person wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 08:51 PM
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OP: Some women are saying no woman are doing X Poppy_blu: No woman is doing that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 08:44 PM
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Read edit2.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 08:39 PM
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I feel sorry for Will Smith being treated like a mop but if I were Chris Rock I wouldn't be so understanding about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 08:34 PM
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You in for some cuck slapping boy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 08:33 PM
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That was not a masculine slap at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 08:32 PM
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To me the whole situation felt like he was the weakest person on earth, overreacting to a joke to his wife as per her request and slapping, yeah slapping, a man in some theatrical fashion. What a cuckity cuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 08:30 PM
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I tend not to go for this kind of retort but that is some cuck slapping if I ever seen one. The way he laughed and then delayed the slapping until forced by his wife, the whole pose and execution, it screams cuck. Never seen any man so rich and powerful deliver such a demonstration of weakness while being aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 08:28 PM
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English is not my native language and I don't recognize this expression, so I don't know if you're making fun of me or you actually liked my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 08:23 PM
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Let me use an example. I'm an empathic person, most people are empathic, I will assume you're, so I ask for you to really try and be this girl, not instantly dismiss her. Would you please? So this girl starts dating a guy who seems to be charming, responsable, attractive, etc. Exactly everything she wanted. Now several months later, this girl wakes up one day and just finds that every single valuable thing in her house is missing... as well as this guy who slept over. Poof, vanished from existen…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 07:59 PM
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Then maybe redirecting those men to those groups would be a better response than denying such behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 07:33 PM
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You did not read a single comment I posted this far specifically replying to you or just plain out dismissed all of its content altogether. You did not read the edit I specifically made to clarify your opposition to my argument or didn't care to address it. You did not address the main topic of this discussion and jumped around the precise order of words in affirmations, even though I did not even say most of them, effectively putting words into my mouth. You are constantly trying to make me hol…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 07:30 PM
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No, that's not the argument and I really can't see how you jumped to that conclusion if it was not for your specific intention to jump to that conclusion regardless of any word I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 07:22 PM
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I strongly disagree and I think what you're proposing actually alienates more guys than it saves from radicalizing, as stated above. I do see your point though and I'm always in for the truth and only the truth, but being dismissive of a whole debate with some form of a one-liner about how the conversation is not worth it because of the miniscule representation of reality is not some righteous telling the truth, it's just trying to repress any healthy and unhealthy debate altogether, no matter i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 07:18 PM
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I did meet one. I don't want to get into detail because: (i) I don't want to relive those moments; and (ii) I don't want you telling me I'm biased and/or trying to push into more detail to find out if this woman "was really a psychopath", effectively entering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman I had it be described with "at least psychopathic tendencies" by a professional, it's enough for me (specially given that I wasn't able to even detect I was being wronged or even that her behav…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 06:50 PM
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It's not about semantics. I've made "Edit2" to clarify. I'm inviting you to read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 06:44 PM
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I agree. I would be saying this to men if I saw men denying the existence of men who behave like that. I saw some women doing that, so I addressed that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 06:42 PM
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Do you realize that those 3 out of 1000 women are dating very real men? At least some men are meeting and dating this women. You're doing exactly what I described: minimizing any woman misbehaving to a miniscule amount of women so "it's not worth it" to talk about it, effectively making invisible the experience of those men. Pertaining your last paragraph: I fully agree. That's why I'm showing other POV.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 06:39 PM
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The existence of "a source for this exact sequence of words in print media: “No woman is like that”" is not the premise of the post and was never alleged by me. The title says -"No woman is like that" is ALWAYS a lie-. The article I cited, as per your own words a couple of comments above, effectively demonstrates that "No woman is like that" is, in fact, always a lie. I provided evidence for my argument, what I did not provide is evidence for the argument you're trying me to hold, which I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 06:37 PM
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It's not the point of the thread but let me help you see this in other light. You as an individual man have a very very very little chance of dating a psychopath, but collectively, people in your town are dating thousands of girls at a time. Three out of a thousand are psychopaths. Therefore, men in your town are dating psychopaths. If any of them can't detect that, he will surely be abused, as that's what psychopaths (both male are female) do. Then he will have an experience (which doesn't repr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 06:31 PM
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It seems like you could not overcome cognitive dissonance. It's alright, it happens to all of us. I'm not having trouble nor I'm thinking that women are in any way focused on sex while I'm focusing on LTR, so I have no trouble with the situation you described. I joined in to have a debate I find fun to have + maybe try and give you a different POV. I failed miserably in the latter, though I did have fun. Best of lucks to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 06:19 PM
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Please read edit2. We're walking in circles. You seem so desperate to be right that you will ignore my edit saying "this is what I meant to say" (that was included specifically as a consequence of your comment, thank you for helping me clarify) and disregard it to keep attacking the "set in stone" (for you, not for me) formula of words, instead of debating the actual meaning and the actual argument behind OP. I will let people decide if you're right or just plain ridiculous. /Edit: you edited wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 06:15 PM
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Yes, the article refutes the "no woman is like that" hypothesis, that's why I cited it for my -"no woman is like that" is ALWAYS a lie- argument. Are you trying to drive me crazy? I have never made a case against print media saying women can't be psychopaths. What are you even talking about? I didn't even make a case against ANY woman saying “women can’t be psychopaths/women can’t be like that”. Did you even read OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 06:09 PM
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I think we're looking about all this in a very different POV, mine being more relatable to what you're describing for women's POV and yours with what you're describing for men's POV. You seem to be thinking that dating for a LTR should be a very logic process, finding for compatibility as if you were looking for a car to buy: getting enough info to see if it's what you like. Girls (and me, which I'm not a girl but highly disagree with your view) are not interested in that process and go way more…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 06:04 PM
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I'm really missing your point. I cited my source in OP. There will always be psychopathic women (even if for a tiny minority of women) who will match the described behavior in a particular debate, so saying "no woman is like that" is always a lie. That's OP. If you're referring that you can find some ridicule post like "a woman killed my dog and ate it in front of me" that would elude my premise then your argument got very childish and so desperate to be right I will just say you're so you can h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 05:50 PM
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Ok and what would you say would be the most efficient way to fight against those recruiters? Shut down conversation all together? I think it does exactly the opposite of our common goal: keeping the guys from being radicalized. Imagine you're a guy who had a very bad experience with a woman, you come online and google for a similar experience and you find a post in PPD. Then you find one of the most common answers to either be a form of "no woman is like that" or a form of "this is not represent…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 05:46 PM
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Ok then women are not looking for sex and men for serious relationships, they're both looking to find the other person suitable to spend time with while having fun. Would you say that's correct? A guy telling stories about Bobby Fisher may think of himself having interesting conversations but a woman may find that quite unexciting and be bored into ghosting, which doesn't mean she's just expecting someone to tell her "hey let's fuck gurl".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 05:39 PM
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Would you please elaborate so I can address your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 05:35 PM
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That's not the point I'm making: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man My point is that there're some people around here that, under the argument that "no one is behaving like that", wants a conversation to be shut down instead of debating the actual point. I will use an example: your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 05:28 PM
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I'm sorry I'm not fully understanding the difference between building rapport, interesting talk and exciting talk then. Where's the line where a conversation ceases to be exciting and but keeps being interesting? Would you please use an example? (I really want to understand). To me all three can coexist, so you might be right that you're being shut down because of lack of chemistry/excitement, but (to me) it's not because you picked rapport and interesting talk over chemistry and exciting talk: …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 05:27 PM
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I can't recall someone saying "no woman is like that" so you're right that it's a straw man if we are focusing on that line alone. I was talking about comments that have no other argument than "no woman is like that" even if they use not that exact formula. For example: if I argue "some women are lying to men about their personal preferences to get them into a relationship" and someone answers "nobody is going to be faking what they like for so long" the underlying argument is exactly the same: …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 05:03 PM
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0.3% is 1 women out of 333,33 and 1% is one 1 man out of 100. That means you're three times more likely to find a psychopathic male than a psychopathic female, so I don't think your rolling dice analogy is correct but I'm not an expert (rolling a 1 three times with a 100 sided dice is not three times less likely than rolling it once, it's exponentially lower). Nevertheless: I never made a point out of what's more likely or more relevant, I think you missed my argument. You may deem any particula…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 04:55 PM
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I mean from what you're describing I think you could use some feedback to improve yourself and not being in such a bad position with females to begin with. I think that women giving you such feedback would have been way more valuable to you (and all of us as a community) than shutting you down, even if it truly was a very specific very minority-related event not applicable to women as a whole. That's my point. I'm not saying "yeah if someone says some woman is shit then just agree with him", I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 04:41 PM
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A man will more than often be significantly better off in his early 30s than in in his 20s if we're using attributes commonly referred as attractive to females as a measure. More accustomed to social interactions (so higher social skills), more developed career-wise, higher sexual expertise, more income, more experience altogether to voice an opinion and have valuable feedback, more respect from his peers as a man, etc. I know you will tell me "it doesn't apply to every male" and I agree, but ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 04:35 PM
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This is the kind of feedback those guys should be getting. I 100% agree. I was in an emotional rollercoaster with a particular girl who hooked me up in it without me even noticing it. It was hell. As soon as it was over I was broken to pieces. It took time for me to understand that I was responsible for allowing that to happen and I went to therapy to grow up from it. I would have hated people telling me "no woman is like that" or even "the majority of women are not like that" when I was looking…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 04:18 PM
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Do you have female friends? I would suggest asking them. I "use" them a lot to learn how to engage in OLD (they "use" me too, we have fun talking about it) and by what I'm told 90% of the times they just go the ghosting route because they were simply "not having fun" (10% I would say regretting matching you altogether no matter what you say). You can call that the conversation not being exciting but to me, if whatever you're talking about keeps her attention (funny, sexy, interesting, whatever) …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 04:13 PM
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It depends. Month to month I'm less valuable for practicing any sport. Month to month I'm more valuable to my professional career. Pertaining dating, if results are relevant, women are finding me more valuable in my 30s than in my 20s. If results are not relevant and only your criteria of what's going on in women's thoughts when valuing me is valid then I just don't care (not trying to be edgy, I'm just pointing out my honest position). On the other hand if results are relevant too, I see my fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 04:04 PM
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To me it alienates any man who was a victim of a similar behavior and is told to stop whining about it because it's just a tiny representation of reality, so it hurts more than it helps. But agree to disagree anyway, at least we're debating on-topic, instead of what those kind of answers produce as a consequence: not engaging in debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:57 PM
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Exactly! A good way of approaching those guys' scars is to debate what happened, help them understand that he's not going to be constantly facing women like that but also not discarding his experiences as non-existent because he literally experienced it: telling him "no woman is like that" or even "most women are not like that" serves no purposed to the debate and only encourages his resent as he's seen like either a liar or a whiner. I do that whenever a woman tells me about a shitty experience…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:53 PM
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I agree. I'm not talking about those situations as you can see in my prior comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:50 PM
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Because this is a sub for those kind of debates. If you aren't interested about that particular discussion you can avoid engaging instead of trying to shut it down and force OP to re-focus his/her interests and questions to the realm of yours. I don't care about the matter you're proposing, so I just don't engage in those conversations, yet I do agree to anyone interested in that matter having it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:42 PM
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It's rare. I just don't see the point of making an argument out of its rarity for every proposed described bad behavior. The underlying intention is "this doesn't happen, and if it happens then it's so rare it's not even relevant, shut up about it already" instead of engaging in healthy debate. If a guy is specifically making a point about how X behavior pertains all/the majority of women then I'm fine with commenters going against it... if the post is just about some women behaving like that an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:35 PM
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In that case the argument is pretty valid. I've seen it used in other situations where the point was not "you're all like this". I mean if I make a point about "some women deceiving guys into a relationship by lying about her values" I'm not trying to attack the whole gender, so if I find many comments only engaging to say "the majority of women aren't like that" I really don't see other intention than to minimize and make the behavior invisible: it doesn't have to be the case for a majority of …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:30 PM
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I understand your point, the thing is that in many situations that is the ONLY argument found in many comments against some kind of described behavior, so either it's literal usage or colloquial use serves only one purpose: disregard OP's argument as there're literally no woman who would behave like that or that there're so few of them that it's totally irrelevant, so stop bitching about it. In both cases the intention is to make the described behavior invisible and not debate it, instead of eng…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:26 PM
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I'm not a fuckboy. I'm not a Chad. I have some periods I'm getting "tons of pussy" (I don't necessarily see it that way but I suppose you would) and periods I'm lucky if I can get any woman to date me. No matter my situation in any both cases, I always look at dating as an emotional ride and never focus on having a rational investment: it just feels unnatural to me and it felt that way whenever a woman engaged in that fashion (there're not many, but there're enough women going that route, specia…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:21 PM
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If we're talking specially bad behavior then I also agree with this argument. Nevertheless, unless the point being made by OP is specifically "the majority/all women are like this" then I see no point in making this argument, it just avoids engaging in the proposed debate and its only objective is to minimize the argument and make whatever described situation as invisible as possible; it reads as "it's a minority of women so shut up about it already".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:14 PM
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That's my point, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:09 PM
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I find hard to believe most men are looking at dating as some kind of investment, taking rational decisions on what's a good match and what not. I would rather think they're either wanting to have sex with an attractive female (not rational, not long time investment) or are doing exactly as women do: try to find a good match through emotions. To me having a rational "compatibility test" through conversation seems boring and does in fact lower my interest in the girl. I've had girls trying to "ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:06 PM
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"No woman is like that" is a simplification of several arguments that lead to the same conclusion = no woman is behaving like described. You can see several comments making that argument in this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/toag67/what_do_you_think_of_this_behavior/ I've read every single comment in that post (I was genuinely intrigued of what would women think) and was surprised by how much that argument took place. Sure it wasn't "this woman doesn't exist" directly,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 02:58 PM
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Yes sorry, I've corrected it. /Edit: "Yes sorry, I've corrected it." -> downvoted. LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 02:32 PM
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That's a different argument and I agree to it. "Nobody says" is not correct and is in fact using the same logic I'm trying to debunk lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 02:32 PM
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Gracias papurri, muy interesante
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 02:03 PM
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You're so smart!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 02:01 PM
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If a girl thinks that I'm a loser for having a nerdy hobby then I don't want anything to do with her, not even fucking, I don't want to put my dick in a girl who thinks I'm a loser (it's a literal turn off). Even worst, I don't want to put my dick in a girl who thinks she can judge people around and be comparing people with an imaginary list of requisites to date/fuck. Sounds very shallow and superficial, why would you spend time with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 02:00 PM
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I know you gotta be kidding but I really like chess so when I bring it up I start with the queens gambit show. The protagonist was actually born in my country and I have a few funny thoughts around her life. I start with that and ask them what they think about it. Conversation goes smooth. In the middle of conversation I just tell them I like chess and why I like it, including a former professor I had when I was very young. I tell them how I was when I was very young, because I was very differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 01:43 PM
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Sorry I’m not an expert in the local tribes but I’ve never heard this story at all, and I’m an Argentinian who visited tehuelches’ lands (the tribe you’re talking about) 4 times. Maybe it’s a very niche story, in which case I would doubt it’s content
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 01:13 PM
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Wtf didn’t know any of this and I’m from Argentina, been to Patagonia 4 times. /edit: ooo it’s the Tehuelches, never heard that name for them before
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 01:08 PM
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A man can impregnate virtually thousands of women in one year. A woman can be mother only once per year. OMG I managed to answer the questions!! I must be a genius since the person I’m replying wasn’t able to answer them and seems to think he/she’s some kind of genius for what he/she’s showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 12:58 PM
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Yet middle aged men are dating young women. Those women seem to be finding some value on those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 12:43 PM
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I’m mostly dating from dating apps. I’m brutally honest about the funny/obnoxious parts of OLD (for both males and females) in my description, in a couple of one-liners. Girls hate OLD as much as you and are relieved to find someone that can put it into words and laugh about it. Don’t be bitchy. Right afterwards I’m also bluntly honest about myself. I know what I can offer and I just offer it. I’m eloquent (in my language, not English) and can talk about anything, from the most tiny stupid casua…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:01 AM
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You mom seems to be enjoying that juicy d like she has your dad for trophy husband. I say they would’ve met anyway. She would’ve kept him around to procreate while being a successful woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 02:35 AM
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But I have a hobby, I play chess! Allow me to tell you about this very fun time I opened with an Scandinavian defense and… where you going?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 02:29 AM
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Intelligence is nothing without wit. Intelligence may land you on a good job. Wit may land you on a lover’s bed. Both will surely land you in both.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 12:00 AM
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You’re seriously telling me that you believe a guy’s chance at fucking is to remain the same at 18 and at 33 no matter what he does? How much oblivious to reality are you? Are you that desperate to give up on any and all efforts?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 11:48 PM
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I literally missed the point. Yes I agree with you. Sorry. Upvoting you back
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 11:29 PM
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Are you saying that everyone is able to know sexual compatibility before actually having sex? I genuinely do not understand your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 10:52 PM
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Agree. If you think how much casual sex you get as a measure to worth and you’re not having any then you’re worth nothing. If you feel like you’re worth nothing then the rest of the world, including (but not only) women, will think you’re worth nothing. If women think you’re worth nothing they’re not fucking you. If you’re not fucking you’re worth nothing… Break the cycle
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 10:00 PM
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This is clearly the case. That’s why when you argue against the “average joe is not fucking” narrative some feel personally attacked and start throwing verbal fists all around. If random guy is fucking then why are they not fucking? Maybe because they’re either worth less than random guy or because they’re worst at playing their cards. Saying only chads are fucking means that they’re compared to standards that by definition they can’t obtain, so they can comfortably give up without blaming thems…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 09:57 PM
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Not from America but if I have to extrapolate what I saw here: restrictions made it very difficult to date and OLD transformed into “let’s match and fuck”. I think some women would not be ok with that dynamic, even for casual sex, given the risks involved for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 09:49 PM
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What would the proportion be? I mean if 80% of women are fucking 10% of men that means that any of those men is fucking eight women at any given time. He can’t have a job, a hobby or any other activity than fully fucking. Even if the proportion is 70% to 20% that would mean more than three girls per guy. He must be fucking as one of his primary activities in life. If he has a job, he would have little time to keep up with all the activities required to be alpha (work out, for example). If the % …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 09:38 PM
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This FWB isn’t a male? Are all females fucking the same FWB? If not, then young men are also having their physical needs met.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 08:30 PM
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I routinely see this anger come from the men folk and not so much the women. Maybe because you're focusing on men. It's easier to focus on the other gender's complains as you can disregard the ones of your own as "I don't think that, this doesn't represent women" but you can easily think "Several men think this, so that represents men" as you're not a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 07:01 PM
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Those women seem to be in a good spot because they're all blahblahing about what they deserve, so it seems to us as some kind of an empowering move... but it's not, they will never get what they supposedly deserve (because they don't) and end up miserable and alone. If they don't grow up out of it let them have it that way: it's better that they pull themselves out of the dating pool. Imagine being in a relationship with a woman who thinks that she's Jeff Bezzos material and had to settle down w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 06:49 PM
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What I don’t get is why some men are mad about something that doesn’t really affect them. Yes I know I will get downvoted to dust but hypergamy (which to me is as obvious as gravity) is not the reason why a particular man can have a date/serious relationship. You want to know how I know so? Because if you walk 3 fucking blocks downtown you will men who’re clearly not in the top 20% dating and also several dating girls who’re way more attractive than them. Go to a random store and you will see so…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 06:33 PM
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To me both attitudes are bullshit and the perfect setting for toxic dating
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 06:15 PM
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I find that some men think being confident is lying to the world about how they feel through their body gestures. Doesn’t work. Ir you’re really confident people won’t cringe and, furthermore and more importantly, you wouldn’t give a fuck about the opinion of a random female who thinks that can judge people because she has a nice pair of boobs and a pussy-driven power that’s on a timer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 10:45 PM
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He's your ex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 10:11 PM
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So this is how a major red flag looks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 10:07 PM
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Would you give us your take? I think it would be way more valuable contribution than just stating the made up scenario is in fact made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 08:40 PM
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Read the comments yourself and jump to your own conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 08:35 PM
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"He agreed to those terms so he is not a victim, even if she lied to him, he still agreed.". Let's say that instead of going on for two months H decides to move forward with a serious relationship in two weeks. She agrees and believes H intentions. They have sex because both of them want to after the commitment was in place. H actually didn't want to get serious and ghosts her. "She agreed to those terms so she is not a victim, even if he lied to him, she still agreed.". Is she a victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 08:26 PM
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If you're a man I feel a little sorry about you. You said women are just better than men. You said men can't pick and choose someone who interests them to have sex with. Do you have any agency and fun in your life or you're just here to try and catch up with any random average girl's value and randomly getting one of them to occasionally fuck regardless of your taste?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 08:17 PM
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Would you say that it's always sexual tension vs emotional safety? Can't be sexual tension and emotional safety? If a guy wants to have sex quickly he should refrain from showing LTR interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 08:06 PM
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I would love the original commenter to address this and the other comment telling her that this behavior is real and represents more than she says, but somehow she surprisingly went mute when other women were deviating from her point. She was not short of colorful references for her initial comment though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 08:01 PM
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I don't care about H in this situation, I do care about how you see M's behavior. Would you say M's lie is somehow justified?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 07:53 PM
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I'm curious because I would personally not like to date a woman who thinks her behavior isn't worrying (specially the part where, to me, she lied to H), so I want to know if that thought is more prevalent than not in the majority of women. After that, I can make up my mind and take a position to protect myself from dating anyone who doesn't think alike in things that are important to me, which is what any person should do (men and women for that matter). You can disagree with me pertaining how w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 07:48 PM
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To me it's not about how many M exist but how many women would be ok with her behavior. It's about values.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 07:35 PM
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How so? 78% of males had sex in 2021. I don't know how many had sex with other males but surely there must have been females engaging with that 78%, which means there're women having sex with not top tier men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 07:33 PM
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It doesn't prove anything. It's not how I think women act. I wanted to understand how you see and think of a woman acting like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 07:28 PM
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It's not about the term, it's about you generalizing all men in a homogenous group who think alike while using the worst examples you can think of, which you keep doing. If you can only see us as a whole then there's nothing I can do for you. You can keep being mad about every male here if that's what you want. I wish you the best of lucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 07:27 PM
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Made up
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 06:55 PM
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They ended up not being compatible. It can happen to anyone. Never happened to anyone you know? What do you think of the behavior regardless?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 04:07 PM
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What does he like? Is he into sports? I'm not a sports guy and I'm not from your country, I'm going to make you pick something stupid hahaha Ask one of his friends, but be sure to let him know that you don't want him to spoil the situation for him He will obviously be more loyal to his friend than to you so he has to understand that he won't be "being loyal", he would just be spoiling it for your guy. If he's reasonable he will help you out and not tell him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 04:03 PM
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Are you supposed to get a ring or it can be something else? I would go for what he likes. Make it more personal to him than a random ring which would be the same for everyone else. You're choosing him for who he is, show it to him, show that you appreciate what makes him unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:59 PM
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I personally agree with almost everything you said, but it's not about what I think. Would you say M's statement to H is correct?: "I do! But I feel like being intimate should only happen after commitment, I want us to be serious about it!"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:55 PM
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I appreciate you taking your time to comment ITT but I would have had way much more valuable information if you actually responded on-topic. As of now, we're severely off-topic and I'm just not interested in continuing this particular conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:52 PM
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I really don't think all of them are that way. I even want to believe it's a minority. I do know women who are 100% honest... but they may be even lying to themselves in this kind of situations by using rationalization (this is what I wanted to find out). What I'm curious is to know if someone who has lying in her nature would be ok with a female but not ok with a male doing exactly so. Is it "we all humans are allowed to lie" or "we all females are allowed to lie" or "I'm allowed to lie"? Off c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:47 PM
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I'm also 33 but I'm not from America so that whole "proposing" culture is so strange to me I can't help you ;( In here usually the guy just asks the girl in private. I wish you the best of lucks though!!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:43 PM
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I made the story around the key points I wanted to know women’s opinion on. You don’t get to tell me what I’m supposed to want to learn about or how. You’re welcome to make your own post to your likings.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:14 PM
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It seriously surprises me how many just go over the fact. Not even justifying it or anything, it’s like it just doesn’t matter at all. I wonder if a guy telling lies to a girl would also be irrelevant to them or if they would feel genuinely mad if it’s a guy doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:10 PM
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You broke my heart dude. I was never in a situation like this but it terrifies me I could ever be. I did was in the other side of casually fucking a girl while other guy was dating and courting her like it was the 1800s (by her own wishes). That’s why I’m terrified. She didn’t even feel bad… I even think that she enjoyed it, or why would she be telling me right before fucking with me. I would never do that again, but it left me with my guard up. Now I’m very very cautious and always on the look …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:05 PM
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It seems like you truly missed the whole point of the post. If you want to discuss all those valid matters that have nothing to do with it, you’re more than welcome to create a new topic, instead of going off-topic promoting whatever agenda is not the point of the thread. This post was to know women’s opinion on M behavior as a made up character, not H, not men in general, not “y’all” generalization about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:51 PM
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If it’s easy for you to generalize all of us into a one giant blob of alike thinkers only because we have a dick… why does it surprise to you that some people are doing exactly the same for women? Incels bashing on women are using the exact same method you used to bash on men. Incels are literally 22% of the global population, yet you put us all in the same bag and then rant about how men do so with women. I invite you to think about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:44 PM
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This is your chance. This is indeed a made up story so you can share your thoughts on it. Maybe you can help us understand you and how women work better. You can keep incel bashing if you want though, I don’t feel like it applies to me and (as is human nature) almost none of your target will feel like so, but hey, keep on venting if that’s what you’re looking for (though you will definitely not get through this way).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:41 PM
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I’m waiting to do the math, there’re comments still coming and coming. I can put it in here afterwards if you want. Some of the responses genuinely terrify me, as in I feel some women can play a dude and be absolutely righteous about it. But that it’s my perspective. I do understand now why some men just opt out of the “we must wait” situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:29 PM
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It’s obviously a made up story. It’s a mental exercise
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:24 PM
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What should M answer if her date asks her “ok I understand that. Are you having sex with other people?”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:23 PM
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Sorry to ask but I just wanted to check: are you a woman? Again, sorry if it offends you but you’re literally the first to point this out after tens of female comments. Some of them agreed with part of what you said but not a single one called her selfish and dismissive of other people’s feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:22 PM
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Some women seem to think the other way around: I’m not gonna let husband material slip away by having sex. What would you say to those women? Would you say “slut shaming” or “I will not wait forever” is more prevalent in men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:07 PM
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Any individual man should be aware that given that men as a group are slut shaming women as a group any individual woman is allowed to lead him to believe she “doesn’t fuck around” while doing exactly so. Is that correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 01:57 PM
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Thank you for your feedback. I invite you to see the remaining comments in this thread. There’re several (if not the majority, I didn’t get to count yet but it’s part of what I want to do) women who think this behavior is at least acceptable. Men lurking around should consider all comments to be representative of what women think about this and how probabilistically they can get someone who thinks like you or who thinks that there’s nothing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 01:55 PM
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I specifically said men do the same. It’s human nature. Why do you feel the need to read into my words as if I’m attacking your gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 01:50 PM
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Because in my view M is the only person authorized to any saying over her own body. This thread isn’t about that. If you want to discuss about that you can make a thread about that. This thread is about her behavior in the described situation. It’s supposed to be uncomfortable to look at and have an opinion on, because reality is not cookie-cutter and many situations may makes us think of the limits of our general thinking. That’s what I wanted to know better, how women think of this behavior. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 01:42 PM
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I'm trying not to upvote any comment so I let women decide which comment is more representative, but I couldn't refrain to upvote yours. Thank you very much for taking your time for your thorough response. It's the first one I personally agree with every single letter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:29 AM
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She doesn't exist, I'm pretty aware of that. I had to exaggerate the story because people tend to instantly rationalize and defend other's people behavior when it's similar to theirs (both male and female work this way). So I had to make it as ridiculous as possible so any given woman wouldn't feel strongly identified and started instinctively defending it. The problem is that it's too way of a stretch for you so you can't even think of it. Thank you for your time anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:21 AM
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Actually 22% of males under 35 didn't have sex last year, pretty similarly to females. Incels in here are an over representation of reality. Women are clearly sleeping with men of all kind, not only top tier. This is a mental exercise to understand how woman think. I don't expect almost any woman to feel exactly identified with M: that was part of the idea behind the story itself, so they can detach from her and freely say what they think without the need to rationalize or defend behavior that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:16 AM
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Thank you, I will tell her. Would you say she lied to H when telling him her motives to not have sex? Would you say that's relevant for the relationship moving forward?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:10 AM
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Let's say this particular girl has. What's your take on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:05 AM
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I'm ought to think the reason you don't want to continue is because now it's a guy lying to a girl, instead the other way around, but off course you can end the conversation whenever you like. Thank you for your time and feedback, it was enlightening.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:53 AM
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Let's say it happens so we can understand your thinking a little better. Would you say he's lying? Is it relevant to the relationship moving forward?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:49 AM
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Let's forget about H for a moment. We truly don't care if he has any right to complain or not. Would you say that her flawed statement is a lie or is it just some kind of minor error which is not relevant to the situation as a whole?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:46 AM
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I understand that you would not engage in this behavior. Would you gives us your feedback on M's behavior anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:41 AM
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Let's say H was indeed dating other girl. Her name is L. L is pretty straight forward and says to H clearly: "I'm not willing to keep dating you if you're seeing other girls in a sexual way". H thinks of his situation with M, he's not having sex with her (yet), he answers: "I'm not dating any other girl in a sexual way". Would you say he's lying? Is it relevant to the relationship moving forward?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:38 AM
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What was the red flag to you? How could've H noticed?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:34 AM
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Would you say M lied to H when telling her reasons to wait for sex? Is it relevant to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:30 AM
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Can you please elaborate? Would you say both a guy and a girl acting like this are wrong or right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:25 AM
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I would love to hear your take on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:22 AM
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As you have noticed, it's a made up story. It's not about how real it can be, it's about getting to know what women think of it. I'm not here to judge a made up character, I'm here to understand women better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:19 AM
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I really hope you too. You deserve it. I'm actually dating a girl and we're getting pretty serious. She didn't believe that sex was for after commitment so we luckily didn't have this problem. I really like her, wish us luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 11:24 PM
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That is in fact not lying. Saying you're waiting because you're only in for a serious relationship (which is what I've personally heard + what male friends heard) while having casual sex with other people is lying. Sex has not that much of a value for me, you can see the only thread I've created in here titled "Sex is overvalued. Value is declining. People struggle to catch up". Lying, to me, is non negotiable. If a girl is willing to lie about something as important as that in a relationship sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 11:18 PM
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I don't have a way to know if I've been lied to, that's what worries me. It wouldn't be a big deal if the majority of women would actually agree that that is, in fact, lying... but the majority in here seem to think that it's just fine and I'm in the wrong. So I don't want to expose myself so easily to being lied and played... actually it's the same reason why women seem to be not willing to have sex "quick and easy" (ironic how this ended up playing). I'm not for anyone lying, nor guys nor girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 11:12 PM
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Yes. Everyone also has a right to decide who to engage in a serious relationship with. I understand women are protecting themselves, but seeing as almost every woman in this thread is ok with deceiving or otherwise concealing information to the "serious relationship" guy (about having casual sex while making him wait)... I must also protect myself. I would feel like an idiot in that situation, so I won't expose myself to it. I came to this thread willing to wait for girls I deemed worthy of a se…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 11:07 PM
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Women who tell you "we must wait for sex because I'm only for a serious relationship" while having casual sex with other guys also exist. I don't feel like being lied and deceived, I'm changing my stand on this matter. I had no problem waiting before, but I also have to be careful because women like that exist, so I don't want to be played around. I hope you find the right guy. I hope he's not reading this thread though, or he's prone to change his stand too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 10:58 PM
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I'm sorry but I don't feel like discussing this anymore, the position that the majority of women had in this thread about this topic left me exhausted and disheartened. I feel like an idiot for every time I really liked a girl and took her word for waiting. I'm sure none of them was ill intended, but they may as well had been having casual sex with other guys without feeling like they were doing something wrong. Good thing this is in the past, I'm surely not behaving like this in the future. I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 10:57 PM
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It seems like you specifically replied to my comment without reading it. The comment I replied to explained a particular situation. I replied why that particular situation (which reiterates a lot in reality) is deceiving and why men don't like it. I have nothing against waiting... or at least I had not until I started crawling this thread and seeing so many women saying it's ok to either lie or conceal about being on board for sex only after commitment while having casual sex with other men. Now…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 10:45 PM
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Exactly my point, they're saying sex and serious relationship do not go hand in hand when dating, so they're advocating for men to either pursue quick and easy sex and discard commitment or resign sex altogether. They're doing TRP a big favor in their speech, as no man would be ok with dating a girl who has sex with other men but not him. He's either deceived or one in billions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 10:42 PM
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That guy is a piece of shit and I hope he dies alone and miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 10:36 PM
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Lying is bad regardless of the excuse, specially if you're supposed to be bonding in an honest relationship. I'm ashamed I have to explain this like we were children. There're many realities I would be better off by just telling lies, but I don't want to be dishonest, regardless of bad results for me. Men who're not slut shaming do not deserve to be lied into a relationship. This behavior ends up punishing well intentioned guys and reinforcing the ideas and positive outcomes for ill intentioned …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 10:32 PM
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You're the best at advocating for not waiting as a male. If women think like this, chances are you're being played by someone that thinks that it's fair and just. A woman that would behave in accordance to what was described by this commenter: - She goes to her FWB and fucks all night. - Two days later she goes out on a date with some random dude she found attractive. She doesn't regard him as relationship material. She fucks with him immediately. - Three days later she meets you. She deems you …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 08:58 PM
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This is the best approach. The past is indeed the past, we all did stupid things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 08:46 PM
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I'm not discussing the past, everyone can change. I do care of what she's doing right at the present, right the very next day before or after dating me. That woman can frame her behavior how she likes, but if she's playing the "going for something serious, so no sex" card while having sex with some random guy because "she doesn't care about him" is a no go for most men. Even the ones (myself) that do not consider sex to be neither the pinnacle of a relationship nor the highest point in a male's …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 08:45 PM
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He did. He's happy now, though raising children after a divorce is a pain in the ass. He also jumped to this conclusion... and I agree. Many many many women seem so feminine, so sexual, so attractive, so prone to enjoy life and sexuality... and then they become 100% mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 08:25 PM
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You do realize that men like sex and this kind of behavior rewards not going for commitment/taking women seriously? You're basically telling men "hey if you want to enjoy sex you should just play around with women, you have better chances: make them believe you're sticking afterwards if needed". It's like TRP propaganda voiced by a woman. Decent guys will not read it this way... but hey, they weren't going for some easy fuck and leaving afterwards anyway. For real this kind of behavior rewards f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 08:22 PM
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If you lead the guy to believe that you don't engage in behavior that you do engage with third parties then you're lying. I don't understand how some people seem to be able to rationalize starting a relationship with deceit as something good, no matter your reasons. I know that women like men who're rich (which I don't judge actually and understand why) but I don't lead her to believe I have lots of money so she takes me more seriously. Why lying about this in particular is ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 08:08 PM
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I don't understand this. If he really likes you and is a decent guy he won't just disappear after sex. Then making him wait lacks all purpose. If you have sex with him and he disappears then he didn't really like you or was not a decent guy and no amount of waiting will change that. Then why would you hold him around under the promise of sex, just to be hurt even more when it finally happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:50 PM
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Easy answer! What I've seen ITT: if she doesn't want to fuck you (because you're relationship material) while she's rimming some random dude (that she doesn't care about) is because she's really into you, that other guy is just like a giant dildo. The best indicator that she's _Into You_ is riding someone's else dick while refusing to have sex with you, apparently. If anything, I was way more tolerant to the idea of waiting BEFORE reading women's opinion ITT. Now I'm way way way way more wary.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:37 PM
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Do you have the GCC data?, I can't find what the acronym stands for. I need it because I'm constantly "debunked" around here by guys who're not having sex and seem to think 80% of males aren't either, which is total bullshit and I would like some data to disprove them. Even 22% seems like a lot to me but hey, if it's the data it's the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:19 PM
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Being really really horny can make you underestimate the risks at hand. Like we all know a really crazy girl is not a good addition to your life to increase your chance of survival... you're in fact statistically decreasing it. Yet "don't stick your dick in crazy" is ignored daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:14 PM
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This is extremely offtopic but it caught my attention. Can you please provide the name of those spiders? I want to understand why a male of any species would have such a death wish, which is contrary to the very most important instinct of all: survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:11 PM
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Sorry but I think you're the one moving the conversation out of the points I made. I'm specifically describing a woman who's dating a guy and tells him that she doesn't feel ready to have sex yet because she's only into serious relationships and sex is meant to come after commitment. Meanwhile, she's fucking a random guy because "he doesn't matter so it's ok". I'm talking about a liar, someone being deceitful, not someone preserving her feelings by not being uses by a douche. This is not some "l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:30 PM
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I do know that's the message across the board. I'm pretty clear about my feelings towards "early sex" so the girl is not guessing if I'm someone who will judge her for having sex quickly or someone who will not even say bye right afterwards (because she somehow now is a valueless human being). I think men who value really low body count (as in: the girl I want to be LTR with must put all men she meets under a severe trial before fucking them) have it way way harder than me, as if they're honest …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:23 PM
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To me it’s the same issue when it’s the woman who is associating sex with intimacy and commitment. You can’t tell me I’m ought to wait for sex because we’re supposed to go for a “serious relationship” while having sex with some other guy because it’s not a serious relationship. Is sex something reserved to “after commitment” or is it ok to have it prior to commitment then? Is sex this dirty ugly stuff that is somehow bad for projecting a serious relationship so we must wait until commitment? Is …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 05:47 PM
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I’m a man. I find this hilarious and must be frustrating from a woman’s POV. We don’t all think alike but it surely seems like we’re sending both messages at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 05:38 PM
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A couple of guys are complaining in those posts, not men, men as a group don’t even endorse them as upvotes show. If that’s enough for you, then I’m sure we can find a couple of comments of guys saying they’re owed anal sex, though you should be deranged to think that represents the view of the majority of men. If you’re willing to reduce the majority of men to the worst minority you can find then there’s nothing I can do for you and I feel sorry for your relationship with 50% of humanity. If it…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 05:23 PM
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It's exactly the point and I celebrate that: you will find me around here saying "you're right" after rethinking my position given someone else's input. Otherwise we would all be losing our time. Sorry if I sound combative, I'm a lawyer who did not born speaking english (as you surely had noticed by my sub-par language skills) so I know I sound way more aggressive than I intend do be. Btw I still think your original comment had NOTHING to do with your last comment and had a very different take o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:56 PM
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Because I'm debating your claim, not his. Your claim was unfounded by your very own references.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:48 PM
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My point, by making fun of your statement, was that you were implying that men should lower their standards or would find themselves alone. Like the only way out of this situation is to change your view on the issue or face the consequences. My point is that women also suffer the consequences and also should decide if they want to change their view on this matter. It's not like only one side of the dating world is to comply with whatever the other side wants. It takes two to date. If the guy doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:39 PM
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I've read the first three. I'm assuming we're only focusing on most upvoted, or are you trying to generalize the opinion of individuals that don't get upvoted by their peers? If we're focusing on most upvoted: none of them I've seen whining because the girl doesn't want to immediately have sex with them. That's women's take on this issue, making men sound childish. Their take was, as is the most prevalent take in this thread, either: I'm not ok with waiting if the excuse is that I'm boyfriend ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:28 PM
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I wouldn't speak for all women. I've plenty of female friends who see sex as "having fun" and nothing more. I do think that they will eventually either get bored or find out that it was some kind of validation seeking, which I often discuss with them (I think men are prone the same route btw), but they do behave and would tell you that sex is not a big deal for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:54 PM
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Exactly this!!! This is the point we men are making, not the "hey gimme sex because you're having sex with someone else". It's the trickery and the deceiving that pisses us off, playing the part of "I don't fuck around" while doing exactly so with other guy/s. Specially for guys who're not prejudiced towards having sex in the early stages of dating, why do you even want to trick them?. I don't think you're a slut for having sex with me on the second date. I do think you're a worthless liar for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:50 PM
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That's what happens though and then loads of women on social media cry they can't get a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:45 PM
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It's not. I don't have a problem with a girl making me wait, I'm not entitled to sex, I've waited before. The problem I do have is with trickery and deceiving. The "something serious" part implies that if you have sex rather quick then it's not serious. Why? Because the girl is assuming that the guy would not respect a woman who simply fucks around... so she deceives him. She makes him believe he's waiting because she's not having sex and values sexual intercourse as a mean to show affection and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:43 PM
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I actually live in a pretty poor country so it baffles me. I think most of the men here would rather have the money than the female attention lol. The guys who earn a lot don't feel the need to pay for women, they just properly date them. Hell I'm technically in the highest percentile of earners (which would be average in the USA lol) and I would never entertain the idea of paying for female attention. It's like a high cost high reward simp for me... but a simp nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:35 PM
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It's not always the truth. I've seen a friend who changed no single bit after being in a ltr. He was stupidly in love with his partner too, so he was making sure to periodically seduce her, not like he "gave up" and took her for granted. As a matter of fact, he indulged in having children because she really wanted and he didn't want to lose her (it's stupid, I know, he thinks the same now but it wasn't so clear to him right then). As soon as birth happened, she went ice cold. During pregnancy = …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:31 PM
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This is the correct answer, but let me rephrase OP's question to match your take. Who do you think are happier, men who have all the sex they want or men who have children? I know it depends on the person but let's entertain a generalization for the sake of the debate. I think men who have both are happier, then men who have all the sex they want and finally men who have children. It's "wrong" to say that in public but all my male friends who were parents were MISERABLE when having no sex life a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:27 PM
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10%?!?! WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I'm happy I'm not in Canada. You mean to say that any male canadian going on a dat has a 1 in 10 chance to be dating someone who was or is a sex worker??
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:20 PM
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You don't have to fuck with every girl you go to a date with. As a matter of fact, if you have that attitude the girl will notice and be more interested, even if she's in just for sex, because you're not immediately available just because she wants to. Start being picky, it will change dating dynamics and the "church girl maiden" will respect you more. If you're interested in a ltr behave like so.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:51 PM
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Yes you are speaking the truth. I’m making lot of assumptions that may as well be wrong for any given particular individual. I’m just talking “in general” (which often is unfair to any particular person) and probabilistically. A person who got to have sex with a couple different partners is ought to know more about what he/she likes about sex than someone that only masturbated. Off course there will be exceptions, but we tend to project the generalization into individuals because it’s easier and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:38 PM
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Good, I enjoy learning how it works there, it enriches my knowledge and own experience. Maybe I can do the same to the people from the USA and Canada + I just have fun talking about these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:33 PM
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Genuinely asking why is this relevant? I do agree with the other comment here that sometimes the OLD profile can be very misleading (either outdated or angles/photoshop severely abused). I felt for that before. There was one particular girl that the day prior to the date literally said to me "you're not going to like me" which I replied to "I already liked you enough to have a date, the rest is up to both of us to know if we further like each other, tomorrow". She insisted. I caught up and asked…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:30 PM
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This is bullshit. Most men who like fat women have a fetish: it's not the same attraction you feel for a girl who's not fat, it has a different kind of "fascination". I'm sure many fat women are not flattered by the prospect of being hot to a guy as an armpit can be to another dude with that fetish. Most shouldn't care though. On the other hand, I'm fat. Not obese and I think that by American standards I would be average but in my country fit culture is way way too much present, so I'm fat here.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:20 PM
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Yes off course. That's why the roles were assigned: dicks are worthless, any dick can get virtually millions of women pregnant at a time.... wombs on the other hand... You're supposed to be picky, you're the ones deciding whose genes are going to be around for the next human iteration. Men are just there to fuck anything that moves. Now I think culturally this can and indeed changes quite a lot and will continue to change, but biologically the roles are undeniable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:11 PM
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I don't think it is. People with prior experience know what they like so they can show you. At least in my country it's pretty common nowadays to have a talk like the second time you have sex with someone and start exploring and enjoying what both of you like. A virgin wouldn't even know where to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:04 PM
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Yes I do agree with you. I don’t see how it contradicts any of what I said. I think you thought I said virgins were boring altogether, as persons, and that’s why they were virgins. I was only talking from a sex POV. As soon as they start having sex and learning to enjoy it the boring and full of fears part is in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:30 PM
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To me sex has way less value than what society holds it to have. I enjoy it, it’s important, but it doesn’t conduct my life. I never had a relationship in order to have access to sex. I wouldn’t disrespect a woman like that and, over all, I wouldn’t disrespect me like that. I would be disgusted with myself for selling my feelings for some pussy. Not all men think alike, as no all women think alike. I only had one serous ltr and I loved that girl with the bottom of my heart. I would have given my…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:51 PM
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The more the times goes by and I grow up, the more sex is easily attainable and women seem to be interested in having all kind of relationships with me. The more they come to me, the more I find out that just doing it for the sake of it doesn’t cut it anymore. I’m being “picky” about who I have sex with, which is not being picky but being conscious of what I’m looking for and only indulging in that. I think this is how the majority of women feel through her young years, but men (myself included)…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:48 PM
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Where you from compita? I feel like 99% of people here are Americans!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:42 PM
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Good for you, enjoy them. Luckily for you, you don’t have to compete with me for their love.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:40 PM
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What are you talking about. Promiscuous women are worthless as relationship material for me. I’m monogamous and I would have none of a girl who fucked half my city to “know what she really likes”. There are several gradients between being a virgin and fucking everyone around. 30 guys doesn’t cut it for me. 0 neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:36 PM
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Thank you for your POV. I’m dating a girl who I really like and things are starting to get serious… this thoughts come to mind whenever I hear her say lovely things to me as if I were her boyfriend. I mean I love hearing them and I want to start reciprocating but I’m scared, not gonna lie. I trust her though, so my fears are unjustified and don’t belong to her but to prior experiences in which it wasn’t even me the one who was cheated on (I mean I probably was, but luckily never found out). Anyw…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:18 PM
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I’m entitled to my tastes as much as you’re entitled to persevering your virginity. I find virgins boring to engage in a relationship from a sexual POV, not as a person. To me, the “being a virgin” part is something we must overcome so we can both enjoy sex together. Other guys, as you can see by the mere existence of this thread, seem to love the “being a virgin” part. I would even say that most guys looking for ltr would either like or at least be ok with that. Hell, I would be ok with it if I…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:10 PM
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I would rather have her decide to stick with me because she likes me and not because she doesn’t know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 05:30 AM
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Virgins are boring and full of fears. I would rather have a girl with experience (which is NOT the same to say a girl who fucked enough men to fill a football team at 20 and an small plane at 30). Moderation is key in all aspects in life. 0 is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 05:24 AM
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Anger IS pain. We just turn to it because society tolerates us expressing anger but not pain and also anger is easily to adopt because: (i) it's more primitive and cathartic; and (ii) pain feels weakening, makes you vulnerable, while you can feel the power that comes with anger, that sheer strength that helps you move forward. If you never deal with pain you're fucked though, eventually it will catch up and you will end up with medical bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:48 AM
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All of them. I've heard of and personally met, either through "friendship" (it's hard for me to separate what they do to other men and feel comfortable, so I don't indulge) or casual relationships (as in pure sex, at least from my side), several women who're like the ones described by the original comment. It really eats my insides thinking I could be used as a toy like these women do with other men, while most of them are completely unaware. I once had sex with a girl that was literally dating …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:31 AM
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Fair enough, I do agree that men get more attractive to women when more experienced and that it doesn't work for women, it's just that it's usually disputed around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:57 AM
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Nothing to show for it? Are women supposed to get "something" out of a relationship other than building a relationship with a man? Did Mr. Bradley get something to show for that relationship or was it "eating up five years of her youth" his reward, as if he didn't invest his own five years on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:58 AM
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They may not want to date you but they may see (dating) value in you and wish other women to date you. You never experienced that with a woman? I've plenty female friends who I wish they can date the right guy and I do think they deserve to reproduce... just not with me, because I don't feel sexually/romantically attracted to them. It doesn't mean they're unfuckable, it means I don't want to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:50 AM
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I want equality. Many men I know want equality. Many women I know want equality. Humans tend to go for peace. War and conflict is the exception, not the rule. We will eventually find that the most peaceful way of coexisting is equality, as "being on top" is impossible after women fighting for male dominance to cease.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:26 AM
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Thank you for clarifying, it's a good take. Those girls are idiotic though: I've never felt jealous about any woman who goes around collecting men attention to her personal collection. What am I supposed to do? Try and join the army of desperate/deluded men surrounding her?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:16 AM
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Where’s the cognitive dissonance there. Men can run society and still society can value women more. I’m from Argentina, a Latin American country. Latin American people run my country. In my country there’s the popular belief that Americans and Europeans are more valuable than Latin Americans. I’m not making this up, is literally true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:08 AM
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They didn’t even replied in any way except for one woman who was utterly offended because one comment said “hey I just fuck this kind of girls and forget them, they’re not worth anymore than that” and then suddenly that’s crossing a line. The irony: using guys = fine; using girls = you’re a douche.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:29 PM
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So which of his actions were maltreatment? His thoughts? That’s really the only difference between respectful hookups and what you seem to think non-respectful: that he thinks less of his partners. What’s the difference between what he’s doing and what the girls he’s describing are doing to other males? It seems to me that they’re both doing the same, toying with people. None of them are externalizing any maltreatment…. But sure as hell is terrifying to think the other person is thinking so low …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:21 PM
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This is exactly what’s happening. It has it causes though: male were indeed in charge of EVERYTHING in society. That kind of power tends to be abused, which happened. Several thousands (if not millions) years after the fact women start taking action to revert this situation. Men start to realize “hey, we were complete assholes” Then you see what followed. Some self hate + praising the women for enduring and taking action = men being undervalued. To me the problem is not females valuing themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 10:33 PM
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I don’t agree with his position but I see no cognitive dissonance. He’s claiming to be the victim (actually he didn’t phrase it like that but let’s indulge) of society overvaluing women while men’s real value is higher. I see no real inherent contradiction. He didn’t say anything about being in charge, which also would not be a contradiction: men could be in charge of policy pertaining society and still enforce valuing women higher while men’s real value would be higher. Again, I don’t agree, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 10:26 PM
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Ok I’m from Argentina, not Europe. I’ve been to Europe though. Americans are definitely more repressed than Europeans in terms of sharing sex lives, at least from a third party POV. The obsessing about superficial aspects seems to be about the particular individual to me, though I tend to believe Americans are a little more obsessed, but that may just be prejudice. The splitting the bills part is not standardized around the world except America. In here, for example, most girls expect you to try…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 10:16 PM
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Worst part is they use that “shadowy part” against already weak men or men who trust women in general. It’s like they’re on a mission to erase men’s trust. Men who are strong willed enough, do not trust or simply don’t care are not falling for those tools for power and are totally immune. What’s the point then? They’re not really acquiring any power other than some simp who serves no real purpose to anyone or toying with a guy who really loves her and trusts her. Wicked.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 10:01 PM
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This. It gets boring and void of sense. Yes at first you think you’ve unlocked the key to heaven… then you start feeling disgusted of shallow sex and shallow women by your side. So you try to go back to “finding the right girl” but you’re scared to death of being played around. There seems to be no win.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 09:53 PM
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Sometimes I wish I haven’t seen a comment. Yours is one of them. It made me feel disgusted. I fight daily against feeling like this, reminding myself the women I met who were this kind of females are a minority. Sometimes is hard to believe they actually are. I try to convince myself that if they were into that kind of relationship to begin with, then they’re not the kind of girl I will end up in a serious relationship with… but how do you know. Those women seem to be so good at faking being a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 09:47 PM
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Why would you be a feminist? Feminism is for females. I’m not a guy fighting for the rights of nurses as I’m not a nurse. I can support them but I would neither fight their battle nor pretend to be a part of their collective. Being shy and awkward can be part of the same problem: lack of confidence. I know what it’s easier said than done, but you just start giving no fucks at all. It’s like every other thing in life: you train it till you make it (which is a better way to put it than “fake it”).…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:37 PM
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Yes but you sounded like the guys were really into you, like you were the gatekeeper of the relationship moving forward, where in reality they just mass swipe right all women who they would fuck with and then let the date play out, not for you in particular. That doesn’t mean they can’t really get into you and end up loving you, it means that the hundreds of match you have in line are literally the same as any other random girl. All of the guys you matched with were talking to other girls at the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:27 PM
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For me it’s not as much as the girl entertaining multiple guys (which to me is a valid approach and almost desirable, so she can really filter who she really likes) but the girls who come on with the “what you gonna offer huh? Entertain me, seduce me, be all I want you to be for me” attitude. It’s childish and unrealistic. I move on as soon as I see that, but I do understand why some guys go and just play along that wicked game…. It’s a game after all, no real interaction, so why wouldn’t the gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:06 PM
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You’re very well educated, I submit to your knowledge. There, you can rub one off now and feel happy, I’m all in for making people happy. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:28 PM
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Yeah well I’m more interesting in career and status than looks, that’s for sure, but I found out that being funny and charming on your profile is noticed: most girls reference what I said there a lot, so they’re paying attention. Btw my family is poor but I’ve fought many years to scale up in the “social hierarchy” (for example: I taught myself, as I couldn’t pay for formal education, the language we’re speaking in; I might not be the best but it worked out enough so I could land some internatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:19 PM
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I can recall 2 times. One of them I was very young and felt overwhelmed by the change in the dynamic. I genuinely didn’t know how to proceed and the girl immediately thought I was dumb, felt offended for my lack of follow up on her initiative and sent me my own way. This girl was genuinely beautiful and her attitude was “I can have any guy I want here and I want you”, which made my tongue unable to move and my brain freeze in panic. My friends made quite a lot of fun out of me for years. The oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:11 PM
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No, I don’t want to, I feel comfortable with what I said as I’m not going to make a profound research any time I want to express an opinion on any particular matter. I reserve my formal analysis and quotations for my job. You can disagree and engage in debate all you want (which is why we’re here anyway and why I replied to you) but I will still express myself how I deem convenient, not how you instruct me to do. Btw you literally made claims which you didn’t back up with scientific data neither…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:07 PM
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I don’t know how popular any particular app is in America, but I just dropped tinder altogether and switched to bumble. Way less toxic. Tinder is all based in looks which is good for females and very bad for males. Women are prone to be fucked by almost any male so they get infinite overwhelming likes and get way too picky… picky meaning also focusing on what Tinder’s profiles have to offer: looks. So if you’re not way too handsome you’re gonna never experiencing any positive outcome (the ones w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 04:55 PM
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Honest question: do you think that those guys are genuinely interested in you or that you’re just “another potential hook-up” in their minds? I have many female friends who’re under the illusion that somehow all those matches where dudes saying “oh my god, I really really like this girl” instead of the most realist approach (“yeah I would bang her” -swipes right- my male friends are actually doing). To me both male and female are at the same ratio of “people who potentially really likes me” but …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 04:41 PM
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Idk maybe almost all (if not all) species with male and female having the same dynamic? Males making the first move. As to the why you can jump to your own conclusions or investigate yourself, I’m not making a claim of any sort pertaining that matter. “It’s how it works naturally” was my point. No more no less.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 04:28 PM
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The only difference in emotionality between men and women is that we allow women to express it, while men are supposed to repress it for as long as they can. So to me the question would be what’s the evolutionary advantage to show vs repress: show = “ok this exist, we got to do something about it” which allows problems to be addressed, which is good when women are the ones policing social relationships. Repress = “ok there’re no problems then, we can move forward with our common goals”, which is…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 02:57 PM
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Then you would be aligned with millions of years of evolution. I like to make the first move. I like how a woman playfully lets me do so. I don’t need to change the enjoyable dynamics of dating to be sure if a girl really likes me, I have all the other many tools at hand to know so, which are way more natural and fun than to be approached. This thread is bullshit. What’s next? If she really really likes you then she will kiss you instead of waiting for you to kiss her? Seems like lack of self-co…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:02 AM
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Are you seriously telling abused women it’s somewhat their fault? I mean I’m sure people can improve even to self-protect from malicious people, but throwing all the burden of abuse to the victim doesn’t seem fair to me. Now as soon as we see this on abused women we all go “wow wow wow! Wait there! I didn’t mean them!” But why is it different? Shitty people are shitty people. Maybe people must learn how to protect from them and not be vulnerable, but a guy being cheated by several women is not n…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 04:53 AM
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To me women are constantly peer reviewing what they do and what men do. Off course they’re easy on their shortcomings and harsher in the shortcomings of their male counterparts. Contrary to what happens in here, men as a group are not constantly reviewing what women as a group do. That’s why if women are claiming to want tall men they just say nothing. Tall men enjoy it and short men realize they can’t do anything to change the opinion of a group and just focus on how to maximize their individua…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 08:41 PM
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You see no one that only focuses on his/her happiness can, in fact, be happy. Being “happy” as shallow as “I only care about me and what makes me happy” is childish and gets boring very fast. Part of happiness is in fact making sacrifices, like a parent does for his/her child. Most parents are happy though, even if they must sacrifice hours of sleep to grant a good upbringing. So a woman who prioritizes her hope of happiness over anything will surely not be happy as she will easily get bored and…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 04:24 PM
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That’s ok to me. We don’t have enough information about op’s one liner. I just projected my own past personal experiences (girls who demanded constant attention and never had enough) and you did your own (guys who didn’t respect and value your time enough to take their time to make plans). I don’t know who you’re but everyone deserves to have standards so I’m ok with yours. Whether I would be willing to meet them is a whole other story but we’re not dating so that’s ok too. I also have my own st…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 02:54 PM
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Dude chill down. I come from the future to tell you you left op in the hospital from that beating
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 02:40 PM
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Particularly someone who seems to need no one else. You’re so special he only needs you. He could survive alone in an island but then if you would be missing of his life he would be agonizing…. What a weird way to get a turn on, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 01:09 PM
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See this is what terrifies me. I’ve heard enough stories about women who would simply delude themselves into thinking “yeah maybe I can love this guy for real” and try to “fake it till you make it”… which doesn’t fucking work on this particular matter. You know she wasn’t just going on with this guy and then he came out of nowhere and engaged. She at least indulged into growing the relationship, proof being she fucking accepted the engagement even if deep down she knows she will Fuck him up. Wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 01:04 PM
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We got a winner. Put this comment up there. In my book, someone coming into other person’s life to try and change it to his/her liking is the one acting as a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 12:50 PM
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OP said "texting too slow". To me you're describing a different situation. But hey, I'm all in for anyone having their own standards. I myself will not be contacting a girl I'm dating for a couple of days if I'm pretty busy. If she feels like talking to me she's more than welcome to make contact, and I will probably be "texting too slow" in return too, which is not the same as ghosting (that indeed shows no interest and is plain rude in my book). If she doesn't like that and wants to ditch me, r…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 02:23 AM
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Jesus imagine having to overthink buying some coffee to mantain a relationship. Would stress the shit out of me. No thanks, if I either have to choose between constant tests and solitude I will happily masturbate and watch some Netflix. Luckily the world is not as wicked as these guys paint it to be (unless you want to see it that way, then yes, the prophecy would self fulfill). I’m sure your husband didn’t give a fuck about your reaction (in a good sense). He just saw an incredible line and sai…
/r/ExRedPill23/03/22 12:31 AM
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I'm all in for this. I would rather be aware at the initial stages of dating that a girl is so immature that the tiniest of the inconveniences will get me out of her life, rather than finding that when already emotionally invested.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 11:22 PM
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You're actually right. In that case, it's fine for both people to go separate ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 10:33 PM
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Who would abandon a girl they adore at the first sign of resistance? You have to be a total douche. The girl may have all kind of reservations to not be intimate yet and "but I want sex now!!!" seems very childish to me. If you adore here you will wait. And I'm not in for the "men are the ones to make all efforts for women" neither: they also have to endure some things they don't like if they really like the guy, it's how you start building a relationship, by respecting the other person and mutu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 06:57 PM
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I didn’t mean to say you were a psychopath and I truly wasn’t concealing my intention to do so: I’m not here to call random people psychopaths, I don’t find neither the appeal nor the benefit of doing so. I’m sorry for offending you. I will not entertain the rest, sorry, I’m neither taking the high moral ground nor backing down my words, it’s just that it became personal and I don’t feel like having a debate that way. I still appreciate you taking the time to talk to me and wish you have a nice …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 05:18 PM
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The last time I played the numbers game I only slept with two and were the ones that I was looking forward to keep knowing them. I rejected going to a woman’s appartment after a date because I wasn’t finding her attractive (as in an attractive woman, not a pair of boobs) and didn’t want to fuck her and dump her. To me sex is not as special as for you, it doesn’t mean I go around fucking any girl that looks at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 03:33 PM
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I don't want to share all my personal life for the internet to see but the other day I spent the night with the girl I'm dating (which I stated is the only one for the past 2 months and I'm emotionally investing) and I massaged her head, then her face and then her whole body. It wasn't in a sexual manner, we already had enough sex, I just felt like it: I wanted to express my affection. The day afterwards she texted me about how much she treasured that moment and how it blew her mind. I did also.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 03:13 PM
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Lol wat? What's the point of being tall if not attracted to tall people? What's the point of being blonde if not attracted to blonde people? She likes what she likes. If anything, being attractive is better for her since she will obviously increase the pool of available guys that have the traits she's really looking for. Fucking attractive people and not enjoying their company afterwards is only fun when it's hard to get. Once you do it enough it will get boring. I know is hard for men to grasp …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 03:02 PM
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YES!! Same goes the other way around but honestly we got it easier as females tend to focus more on your individuality when feeling attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:57 PM
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This applies to men also. I'm not attractive to the ample majority of women, yet there's a % that thinks that I got "something". It varies from girl to girl as I heard it all, from my "intelectual face" to the "cutting through steel" way of looking to my manly eyebrows (wtf) and even my hands, when I'm pretty sure my hands are not conventionally handsome as I have pretty short fingers. And that's only talking about superficial/physical attraction, things get even more interesting when talking ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:55 PM
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Well if a person is dumb enough to think Hollywood resembles real life he/she's in for quite a lot of disappointments.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:43 PM
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You do the right thing. If I date you and I find out you're rocking my world I will indeed emotionally invest in you and drop the rest of the "game". A guy who only wants to get in your pants as much as he wants to get in many other girls pants is not worthy of your time. I'm not proposing that. I'm just proposing to date many girls to find the one that's right for you. Believe it or not (because I had a difficult time explaining this to female friends), I don't go around focusing on fucking any…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:29 PM
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I don't follow you. You can be self-confident and at the same time have all kind of feelings that undermine that self-confidence. Point is you have to work on them, not let them win. If you have that attitude, women appreciate you opening up on your feelings. My personal experience is women treasure you showing the weaknesses you don't show to the rest of the world, instead of feeling unattracted. They know you're a human being and you're not perfect, they just expect you to be confident enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:11 PM
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So our current dating/relationship crisis would be the optimal set-up for evolution? Sexually freed women chasing chads (the positive stand outs) while not needing to commit to average joes to sustain themselves and their offspring = single moms that only let chads reproduce? I don’t agree that only chads are fucking and I think that our reproduction works quite different as our very diverse gene pool can attest, but I like to entertain theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 01:40 PM
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I did use google but the formal definition came up and it didn’t match the context of your sentence. No need to insult me. All the rest of your comment is you taking my analysis as personal attack which is not the case (I.e: “unless you’re a psychopath” was a formula to think about who would be in such a position, not saying that you were the one being a psychopath, I think that it was pretty clear). I’m not going to continue this conversation because you started assuming things about me that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 01:29 PM
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Lol I think you’re projecting what serial dating women issues are to serial dating men. We’re both expected really different traits from the other gender. Yes, you have to eventually show willing to commit. No, I’m not preaching fuck them all without caring/using them and then wonder why you’re left alone… which is actually not necessarily what would happen but it’s unfair to the girls you’re “using” and shows a total lack of empathy. I want him to date several women at a time and find the one w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 01:24 PM
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If someone is romantically interested in the other person and gets rejected you’re left with a fake friendship, based on the rejected repressed feelings. Simping is what comes next, regardless of gender. We focus too much on male simping but I’m well aware of female simping and I’ve been “friends” with a girl who asked me out and I wasn’t interested: she continuously tried to “seduce” me and it really broke my heart to distance myself from her since I valued her a lot but I was able to see how s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 01:11 PM
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It happens, it's not a big deal as you were only on your third date and she decided someone else was the way to go. It is what it is. You should be doing the same. When both parties agree "this is who I want" expectations get in place and a (presumably) healthy relationship begins. She was wrong coming back though, because if she respected you as a human being and as a male she would assume you wouldn't be in for a "second chance", as that would mean you would be accepting being a second choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 03:26 AM
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Yes you're young. Expectation should come after the fact you got to know the girl and you say "ok this is the one", not before. This shouldn't be happening on third date as you certainly didn't get to really know her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 03:15 AM
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You were wrong to expect that from any particular girl. You must get to know and date as many girls you can and you will eventually get to know the one that’s worth your time and you’re worth her time. Don’t focus all your energy on the first girl you can date. Girls will tell you otherwise as they hate guys doing exactly as they do, but it is in fact the healthiest habit they got and you should learn from it: be open to a diverse pool of girls and pick from it what suits you best. You may think…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 03:06 AM
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Women: I will fuck many men and reproduce. Some men: y u no fuck? If reddit’s theories were true, Jeff bezos must be father of at least 20% of children being born this year
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 03:00 AM
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Oh my god just as I’m thinking that there’s way much more toxic male opinions than female opinions in this sub you come around and try to compensate for that in a single comment. You’re like a walking cliche of what misogynists paint feminists to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:57 AM
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What are you talking about dude, I often go on multiple dates with multiple women until I find one compatible and try to go for something serious because I like that and that’s my end game. I see nothing wrong with it and I expect women to be doing the same. You shouldn’t be betting all in in a girl you just met, it’s the healthiest thing you can do, as it may turn out to be not the best girl for you and you would not like to just start a relationship with her. What I do agree is disrespectful i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:51 AM
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Those guys are not pushing their agenda to get in good healthy relationships, they just want a pussy to daily fuck in their bed, so they don’t care about the woman being attracted to them or not. When you remove all the false morality and “being realistic” bullshit they pretend to impose into women they’re just some guys that want to be in a relationship with someone to fuck, which is wicked but it was indeed the reality of humanity for so long that it’s just inevitable to have at least a portio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:26 AM
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I did have more than a 2 hour talk with my current partner pertaining what she wanted to try in bed. We’re still discovering things together and she’s enjoying it very much (you can tell me that she’s lying to me if you follow your other comment train of thought but I’m convinced otherwise). You don’t have to be a porn addict or a male to enjoy sex. If you do not enjoy sex it’s not a big deal though, I made a post here about how sex is overvalued and will steadily lose value over time. You just …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:16 AM
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I would rather be alone than be lied about enjoying our bed time together. I don’t care if it’s harsh or if it makes it impossible for me to have a relationship (which I don’t believe because I think that your view on sex is the very truth for you but not for all women), I will take a horrible truth over a convenient lie in any matter. I feel like I’m mature enough to handle the shit parts of life. If I would rather know I have cancer and will day in a couple months why would I hide my head unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:05 AM
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Don’t be fooled by incels. Plenty of men have at least one woman who would fuck him if he plays his cards to do so. This is specially true if he’s in a relationship. You can cry sorority all you want but as soon as I was in a serious relationship several women around me immediately started flirting. I’ve seen plenty men in the same situation and I’ve had friends overwhelmed by “offer” when facing a new relationship. Cheating is not about possibilities, almost everyone has at least one. Cheating …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 01:48 AM
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If you enjoy yourself you will eventually find someone to enjoy yourself with and you will end up enjoying him too. If you focus on someone else you will never enjoy yourself, he will never truly enjoy you with you and certainly you will never get to fully enjoy him. It sounds like some kind of "self improving" bullshit but it's the truth so I just take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 11:42 PM
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I do agree with you on that matter. Also sex dynamic holds nothing on the relationship dynamic if not for making both of you happily orgasm. I mean I don't want to be specific but I do enjoy being mildly dominant and quite assertive in bed (which to my surprise was greatly enjoyed by most partners I had) but I respect my partner as an equal outside of it, so sex ends up being just sex. I do very much enjoy the occasion on which sex is an expression of love and it had happened to me in the past. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 11:38 PM
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That's kind of mature and terrifying. I don't know if I would be ready to handle the situation this way, like my partner saying "hey to me sex is just a mean to an orgasm and I don't need nor care with whom I have it, if you want exclusivity I can live that way". I would need some serious time to wrap my head around it. Somehow I feel that it would undermine how the other person feels about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 11:30 PM
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That doesn't sound like the kind of answer someone who didn't cheat at all would give. I mean if you confronted me with "hey have you cheated?" my answer would be "no", plain and simple. "I didn't do X" sounds like maybe Y and Z did happen thus being left out of the answer. But I don't know neither him nor you nor your relationship so I may be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 11:23 PM
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There's a difference between not valuing sex as "we shouldn't center our relationship around it" vs. "it's just sex, whatever, have it with and how you want, I don't care". To me sex both holds no value and much value. No value versus the fetishized fantasy society still holds making sex the center of life but lots of value to bond with a person if there's more than just sex going on. If I'm in love with a girl I want both of us to share sex together and reserve it for one another. It doesn't me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 11:19 PM
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Because having multiple sex partners and no one to really care or be cared by gets boring pretty quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 11:07 PM
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I'm sorry to be so crude but if he's not faithful he will cheat with a friend or with a random. Men tend to cheat because "I want to fuck a different girl" while women tend to cheat because "I want to fuck that particular guy". Motivation is different, so I think you should worry on him being faithful altogether, regardless of having female friends that he may or may not feel like having sex with, which is actually irrelevant to cheating. That's why males tend to be jealous of good looking guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 11:01 PM
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Surely you have seen it end in disaster as well. I tend to agree with conservative girls on this matter: dating may or may not result in a satisfactory romantic relationship, but friendship ends as soon as the dating begins, never to be recovered.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 10:56 PM
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I would fuck and marry that unicorn then. I’ve met 2 girls that were as described. Only 2 in my 33 years of life. Both were taken. Top tier are there, but unattainable for different reasons. Top tier male are chads and go around fucking whatever they want, so why commit?. Top tier female are a catch for any male, so why wear out in the dating game? She already closed the deal with a high value man. From top tier to average there’re several gradients but I assure you there’re women that share at …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 10:39 PM
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Nope. As I said, that’s the first step. Next step is adding value to yourself. I’m the “nerdy” type: I read a lot, I play chess… and I’m quite good at quick thinking and expressing my opinion eloquently (in my language that is, please do not judge me for my English). I just developed and continue to develop that trait as 1) I enjoy it a lot; 2) women enjoy it a lot. I’m not muscular, I’m not swimming in money, I’m just an smart guy fun to talk to. That’s my value. Find yours and exploit it. If y…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 10:24 PM
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So meh dudes are getting meh girls? How is that not expected? You can add value to yourself and more attractive women will find you more attractive. And I’m not talking about all that cookie-cutter go to gym and make monies bullshit, there’re several ways of being a valuable human being and, specifically, male. Attitude is the first step and I see quite an abundance of guys stuck there, specially the “never fucking” ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 10:11 PM
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You're literally the number one global power even to this day and the USA went great lengths in propagating their culture. You can order a burger anywhere in the world and everyone thinks that it's american: I don't even know if that's true. Think of Japan: they did a tiny fraction of the USA's investment and nowadays you have people obsessed with their culture in every corner of the world. K-pop is undergoing the same route. Now the USA did this in order of magnitudes bigger while holding the n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 09:35 PM
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I don't know what "vicariously" means as I'm not that fluent in English. I think there's quite a difference between having multiple real life sex partners and masturbating to virtual representations, regardless of your gender. For sure it brings all kind of problems that could include the inability to form proper bonds (as it was demonstrated that exposure to porn for long periods of large consuming will kill or totally debilitate your ability to have sex irl), but the phenomena is certainly not…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 09:30 PM
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So you're saying they rationalize the guy's behavior and their attraction so it's not "hey, I'm attracted to an asshole who's an asshole"? I think we're actually agreeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 09:23 PM
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I don't think so. It always worked like this. The thing is that, as social media interconnected what once were separate groups with specific morals/opinions/etc., now what used to be "girls from Wisconsin" is simply american girls. Furthermore I'm not even from America but we do get so much influence from your culture that even the girls in my country are pretty aligned with what's going on there. It's not that echo chambers are new, it's that they went global and ended up absorbing not only the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 09:18 PM
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I agree with you. I don't mind a girl having a one night affair with someone she liked as long as she uses condoms and I expect a girl who thinks the same about me. That is: prior to commitment, as I'm pretty much monogamous and from that point on I expect neither of us to have a one night stand, but it's fine if she did prior to commit to me, idgaf. From what I read from you you're not willing to indulge in a one-night fuck and so you expect the same from the guy, right? Seems fair to me It wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 09:10 PM
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Jesus christ you made me desire Cleopatra so much and I didn't even give a fuck about her prior to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:56 PM
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Yes, it applies to both men and women but most men can't (keyword "can't", instead of desire) live a hoe phase. The fraction of men that can, do also have these negative consequences. Too much of anything is bad. Whether chocolate or sexual partners. Whether you end up being diabetic or unable to bond in a healthy relationship. Even drinking too much water can get you poisoned, why would having too many dicks/pussies would be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:41 PM
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Oh c'mon really? There's no much of a difference? If it were true, we wouldn't care and wouldn't be chasing them at all, as it would be an added cost for not so much of a benefit. A beautiful, funny, emotionally intelligent and stable woman who respects her partner and herself while not cheating is in fact top tier and very different from average. If you say otherwise you're telling all women "hey you're quite attractive just the way you're, you're at least almost like top tier" and that is simp…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:36 PM
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You may be right, I think peer pressure in my country is way too hostile for women and they tend to all "fall in line" and do and have an opinion in the same way. I thought this was the case in America because of the comment we replied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 06:59 PM
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I can only talk from my own experience and I didn't grow up in America, I'm in Argentina. In here I'm for the first time dating a girl that likes music outside of either current american soft-rock/pop or whatever that bullshit is called or reggeatton. I mean it, if you want to find a single girl that has a different taste in music than the rest of the lot you would have to interview tens if not hundreds. Meanwhile in any gathering of 3 or more men there will at least be one with an specific tast…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 06:55 PM
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Aware that they're assholes? For sure, why would you date an asshole? I mean it, what's the end-game there, what is it to ultimately enjoy or show for? You must be deluded to date an asshole, he/she will clean the floor with your ego and left you broken as fuck, why would you want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 06:49 PM
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Do you see the amount of guys that are openly "weird" or into weird stuff? Yeah well, most women seem to all like the same, have the same opinion on important matters, etc. They tend to behave like they think in unison. Then you get to know any particular woman more profoundly and you find out they do are individuals who do not all think alike. I think this statement is both right and wrong: for some reason women feel pressured to behave and have a public opinion in accordance with their group..…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 06:46 PM
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Damn what a burn. I want to see the guys that are spouting the "be the alpha" speech come to terms with this. An alpha would 100% agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 06:39 PM
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My statement includes that situation. English is not my native language so I struggle to explain some concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 06:32 PM
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Simps are no competitors to me as we both seek different results. They don’t want to initiate a romantic relationship of any kind with a woman or they wouldn’t be simping in the first place, they seem to be pretty content with being the source of cheap attention to women. You get your standards right and let them have theirs, women who are worth it will respect that. They will look to you as the guy who’s not despertare for sex nor is resentful to women for not getting it and you will instantly …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 06:25 PM
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Men are also entitled but, as you point out, no one is enabling them to behave entitled at all. “You’re a man, grow a pair and earn what you think you’re worth instead of expecting someone else to give it to you”. If men were indulged in attention, gifts, all sex they would want, etc they would be entitled too, it’s just that it’s happening to only one of the genders. Furthermore people eventually grow up and out of such entitlement, proof being plenty of girls that are looking for the “right” g…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 06:16 PM
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It’s not? I’m in no way wasting my time with a girl that’s what’s popular known as “a bitch”. I may have a one night stand if that’s how it plays out when having a first date/knowing her in a social setting, but sure as hell I’m not using the most valuable resource in life, time, to discard it in exchange for pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 05:40 PM
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My man here spitting some truth while other people project their insecurities/taste onto others. No dudes, looks is not the only way to be worthy of a woman’s time. If you think that way then you’re doomed because you surely aren’t a handsome guy if you’re pointing that out. Change your pov instead. What are the rest of the mother fuckers doing to fuck? There’re ugly mother fuckers, dumb mother fuckers, jobless mother fuckers…. several if not the majority of them are still fucking. What are they…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 05:37 PM
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You mean non consent as a fantasy? I was asked twice to fulfill that fantasy for two different women (one wanted me to “push it further” while she “playfully” denied my intentions and the other wanted the full experience). I don’t feel comfortable in doing so, so i didn’t for neither of them… But I’m not judging them. It’s their fantasy, I wish I would not care or even like to provide as it’s just a fantasy, but to me it was over the line of what I was willing to do: she can still do it with som…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 05:13 PM
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So let’s say a girl goes out a night and has some drinks. She’s having a great time and some random dude approaches her. Now he’s smart, he’s handsome, he knows his way around women. In no time, she starts to feel attracted and, why not, pretty horny. Night goes on and they end up sharing bed, using protection and all. Is her a “meatsack incapable of Impulse control”? Should I disregard her as ltr material because she fucked some X guy? Now this men do exactly the same but somehow are acting “ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 05:03 PM
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Answering here because I’m not a female. As per my personal experience: women do judge a lot about men’s uncommon sexual desires. I think that’s because most females are either pretty vanilla or too repressed to explore any other kind of sexuality. What also holds true for me is that they are “judging” right until they meet a guy they really like that wants to explore something different. Then they at least try it unless truly disgusted by what’s proposed. I’m pretty vanilla though and I don’t l…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 04:53 PM
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"unless it's a question of low self-esteem and chasing validation; which I figure it is for most people" You've answered yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 04:26 PM
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I think that’s the final lesson to be learnt but some people take some more time and some more partners to get it. Hell, I have female friends that are almost proud that they’re having countless sexual partners and I tend to point out it’s not healthy for them. They then proceed to say I’m being misogynistic and I question exactly this: are you enjoying the multiple partners? Wouldn’t you rather be with one single partner you enjoyed both in bed and out of it? Etc. Most end up agreeing but there…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 01:40 PM
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Then use it as an advantage: yes, you’re an adult now, don’t be afraid of rejection, it holds zero power over you. Also it wasn’t my experience in the past pertaining being rejected by one particular girl thus being rejected by the group. As a matter of fact, in one of these knots as you call them, it happened to me that I was rejected by what you may call an average girl (at least to me, some guys said was below average) that I really liked and I was devastated (not because of social cost but b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 01:29 PM
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I neither said nor implied a single word you replied to me. I’m tall but I’m not buff. In your country if numbers and people’s comments here are correct I would be a normal dude but in my country I’m overweight (believe me here men are way more fit than in America). I don’t like sports, not even our national sport that is specifically correlated to being “manly” by our culture. I love chess and I openly discuss that. I don’t have a stable job as I quit 1 year ago to pursuit working on my own (I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 01:10 PM
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I meant to say it's recent in the history of humanity. 50 years or 30 are the same for this matter in particular. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 02:31 AM
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I'm 33. I just randomly picked decades ago. You can say 50 years ago if you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 02:20 AM
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I would say focus on yourself, get a grip on what makes you unique and would be enjoyable by a woman that values it, develop it and be proud of it. Then you will value yourself and wear what you have to offer for the whole world to see. Women that like that particular trait will find you attractive. The ones who don’t: do not even bother, it’s not worth learning the “cheat codes” Develop your good traits and offer them to the world. That’s attractive for a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 01:31 AM
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I don’t know the average age of the fellow redditor in this sub but I’m starting to feel like There’re no many 30+ males around. I would have thought that any average guy would have dealt with rejection from many particular girls + acceptance by others so many times by 30s that they wouldn’t give a fuck about any individual girl rejecting them… but they seem to hold some random woman’s opinion as if it were the universal truth shared by all women judging him at unison. That girl may have the shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 01:20 AM
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Sorry but your ratings included pretty specific descriptions of personal expressions/beauty so I misinterpreted as rating the one sending the picture and not the picture itself
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 12:13 AM
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I must be so lucky then because the most it got me is the woman sending me cues so I can understand nothing sexual would happen between us and then I just move on. Maybe some of them ended up thinking that I was a creep in their heads but they surely didn’t share that with me nor shared acquaintances when applicable… so why do you even care? Stop being afraid of woman or their opinion. If she doesn’t like you she doesn’t like you, what’s the big deal? Move on to someone you like and likes you, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 12:07 AM
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Damn dudes, you’re getting scammed so easily, that’s why you think women hold all the power. You have to see beyond make up, fitting clothes and photoshop and you will see that such a disparity between both genders results shouldn’t be as big. Girl on number 9 is what a naturally beautiful girl looks like. Don’t be scammed. Furthermore learn how to take a picture of yourself. I’m very very bad at that but that’s why I’m not going around sharing pictures of me. Women learnt to do that so they exc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 11:29 PM
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Do girls do it? Do girls go out of their way with 0 motives and just talk to some random person with nothing in common prior to the engagement? Why? I do sometimes engage in conversation with strangers because I’m bored and I suspect they can be fun to talk to… but that’s holding a motive. Why would I approach otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 11:17 PM
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What do you mean by going out of my way? I didn’t believe in friendship between male and female when I was younger because I was a total idiot, but I now have plenty of female friends who I value a lot and I feel no sexual attraction at all (and I assume them neither). Given so, I’m open to getting to know girls that potentially can be my friends as much as I’m for guys. If I find someone, regardless of sex, doing something I also enjoy/voicing an opinion I agree/etc I will surely go out of my w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 11:15 PM
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I wish this to be seen by most men here, as I see there’re plenty thinking some bullshit about having to have perfect looks to fuck, all while pretty aware that their average friends who are in no way top of the chain are fucking nevertheless. Much of your “bad luck” will change if you change the way you see and treat women, believe me, been there. I’m not talking about some stupid “treat them like a pair of boobs” logic that got no one laid before, I’m talking about YOU being sexual and sexuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 11:02 PM
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Dont want to be rude but I’m not from the USA and I assure you most women in my country would date any average American joe… because they’re American, they have the monies, they have access (on paper) to a better lifestyle that they will enthusiastically ride on. Whatever personality trait you think is a plus is actually non existent when thinking “yeah I would fuck and marry an American so I can live in America too”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 10:41 PM
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Imagine being the only gay guy left. Good luck trying to convince any of the remaining men to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 09:46 PM
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Yes there’s also top, bottom and average for elite cars. You would still ride any of them, right? Same would apply for those lucky 10% remaining dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 09:44 PM
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I’m sorry and I don’t want to be rude but you make it sound like you have some form of an agreement to be together instead of a loving relationship. Some kind of “yes you are attractive enough for me to fuck you and we are compatible so let’s share life”. I mean I’ve been in a relationship with a girl who was not prettier than ScarJo… but to me she was the hottest woman alive atm. I said so to her and I wasn’t lying one bit, because I was in love and there was no other woman I would rather be wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 09:37 PM
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I hope you find yourself a dancer! As you said, those are at an always high demand and are hard to find, I secretly envied them when I was younger. Now I just want a woman that shares my interests (just like you) and I get to date some of them from time to time, don’t give up, you deserve your dancer!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 07:55 PM
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This. Don’t take it bad please but if you’re surrounded by shitty people (no matter if female or male) then you’re doing something wrong Sure, there are plenty toxic women in the world but you’re supposed to develop a way to weed them out when growing up and focusing in women that are worth your time. Those women also face the same difficulties you do and learn to weed toxic men out of their life (or suffer as you do) You should work on yourself and develop a way to find non toxic women. I assur…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 07:48 PM
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But isn’t that the point? I mean you and I were in fact grown in different countries but dancing was an universal dating ritual. Nowadays everyone have different expectations and there is no “normal” way of approaching dating. I love it and I wish it was that way when I was younger (I’m 33). There’s no “cool” nowadays? Cool!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 07:40 PM
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I express emotions constantly and I don’t get enmasculated by that. As a matter of fact the day before yesterday I expressly said to the girl I’m dating that I was afraid of facing some of the difficulties that are coming my way in the near future. Instead of judging me she was supportive. I also told her that to me life is not about not getting beat down but to stand up whenever you get crushed, which is what I profoundly believe, and she shared my view on the matter. After all such discussion …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 07:35 PM
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Is this real, an exaggeration or an American cultural situation? I mean I’m in no ways a superb apex male in appearance and I find no problem having physical contact with women at all. Maybe because I don’t do it in a Pervy way and I’m just being myself as I’m with everyone. Maybe because, for example, in my country we kiss each other in the cheeks when we say hi or bye so our boundaries about physicality are different… but it’s insane to me to be so distant and creeped out for something that is…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 07:26 PM
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I suck at dancing and absolutely hated how the dating culture in my country was mainly centered around dancing like 10 years ago, when I was most interested in serial dating (hormones and shit) Now I’m a proper grown up and I’m only interested in dating interesting women so idgaf about making something I don’t enjoy just to have sex… but the interesting part is that I have a couple of younger guys I supervise at work and asked them how “the game” was for younger people nowadays and to my absolut…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 07:20 PM
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