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Sciencerobinaloft/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:24 AM
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Again, I am not arguing against you - there are just a surprising number of people who take it way too literally. (Though if you do want my takes, I have stated in another comment that women prefer assertive men who aren’t domineering or aggressive, and actually prefer some traits listed as “beta” such as being easygoing and emotionally sensitive too. You can find the study in another comment, it’s something like 70% of women - again, 30% not falling into this pattern is still a huge amount, whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 04:22 PM
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Growing up in a Chinese household, I can say the pressure is on you from a young age - if you’re a girl, marry into a good family. If you’re a man, marry someone as quickly as possible. I have Chinese relatives who wouldn’t stop ranting when their daughter married down a significant amount - or you could call it the man marrying up. Of course, if you teach them these things, they internalize them, and before long you have another generation teaching the exact same thing. And it’s important to no…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:22 PM
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Yes, I do agree with the points you’ve given - once again, though, an unfortunate number of grown adults use “alpha” as a way to excuse their temper tantrums, and it’s honestly kind of saddening. It would be great if politics was more transparent, but that’s about as likely as a meteor hitting the Earth tomorrow, sadly enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:45 PM
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Alphas do exist - I am not claiming they do not. They are more nuanced than “be aggressive” and “get all women.” They are typically less like kings (who are typically king for life) and more like elected officials (again, I quote studies, see above.) Dynasties are stable, yea, but that’s because many quashed dissidents and maintained their rule through threat of power. And I’m not saying we’re not wage slaves - the political system right now is broken too - but if one person has all the power as…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 03:30 PM
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Alphas do exist, yes - and they are more akin to chiefs than being born "alphas" - but I am arguing against the "chad alpha" definition which a lot of grown adult men (unfortunately) do argue. An 'alpha' is just a term for the leader of a group - and I can't speak to gorillas, but at the very least in chimpanzees alphas are traditionally known for being kind and respecting their people, very unlike a king. And in chimpanzees, the alpha does not get exclusive access to the females. You can argue …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 02:56 PM
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You are confusing dominance with aggression. Aggression is a dominant trait: but when surveyed, almost no women wanted aggression in a partner, and almost no men did either. Women wanted an assertive partner (about 70%), someone who had a lot of energy, but not an aggressive partner. This is why screaming in a public mall doesn’t get you women crawling all over you. Same works in the animal kingdom. Overall, Alphas are not “indimidating” within their own group. They are often well-liked individu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:19 PM
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Those mass condo projects that go for cheap are called "tofu dreg" projects, and they are a scam in addition to being generally quite unsafe to live in. However - can you post any accounts of Chinese women becoming hypergamous? All you have posted claims that they are 'scamming young men,' which is bad, but you need to back up your "wives are clamboring over financially well-off chads" claim since that's pretty far off for anyone who isn't in the "red-pill" community. Conversely, I will back up …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 02:53 AM
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Okay, I think you've finally elaborated enough for me to get your point. Thank you. The studies you have linked illustrate the role of the "bully" and the "victim" as temporary roles - much as I have claimed - and aggression does not lead to an increase in status (the only important thing is the kid believes it does,) it is merely that vice versa is likely. These studies you have raised support the points I have purported earlier. And as I have purported earlier, the researchers claim that they …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 02:38 AM
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I don't see how you went from "there is an excess of men in China" to "Only financial Chads in China can get girls." That is a massive leap in logic. China's population is 1.4 billion; even if 30 million men are displaced, that's barely a dip in the ratio. It does lead to a lot more men struggling to find women, yes, but I guarantee you that there are not merely 30 million working class in China, and with the way capitalism works you'd honestly be hard-pressed to find 30 million elite "financial…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:41 AM
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You state your argument as if it's already established you are correct. The undergrads present this as a theory that best lines up with current evidence. And assuming this theory is correct, no evidence of it happening in a modern society has been shown. Those 16/17 men, according to this study, were killed, so only 1/17 men were left. There is no massive 'man-genocide' happening today, luckily enough for men. Shocker that no young man can find a suitable wife in China! It's almost as if killing…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:09 PM
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My point is that alpha as the concept of 'aggressiveness' is false - aggressiveness is an attribute that may contribute to an 'alpha,' but the most successful alphas are not aggressive, shown time and time again. Alpha/beta is not the best model we have to describe this, or at the very least, it does not function in the way most people think it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 09:45 PM
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Keep in mind that while studies do back some quoted facts up, this is my purely theoretical view! Humans do seem to have preferred qualities in others when dating - among some of the top ones for women were assertive but not domineering, sensitive to emotion, and easygoing but not shy or quiet. (Something around 70% preferred for each.) Through this, humans compete for the attention of a spouse, though they mostly compete on familiar grounds (e.g. don’t radically overhaul their personality to da…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:38 PM
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Sapolsky’s work on baboons (highly competitive hierarchical species, tournament species) is well-grounded. Humans, if we’re taking cues from great apes like chimpanzees and bonobos, would be a mix of the mellower tournament style that chimps show and the pair-bonding style which bonobos show, though Sapolsky does also say that human social relationships are markedly more complex. It’s my personal belief, at least, that attempting to analyze human behaviour through the lens of other animals will …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:21 PM
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They’re the top of what a popular men is in their years…? Okay, I don’t know if I’m reading this correctly, but you’re saying people liked them at the time. No. Bullies in these movies were not written to get women, and they did not in real life. No one has ever liked Buzz for what he does. And if bullies in real life get more women, again, can you please show this behaviour to me? If it’s everywhere like you claim it is, proving it to me should be as easy as 1, 2, 3! If you think women ignoring…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:14 PM
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Today we mourn for the loss of DerpDeHerpDerp…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:06 PM
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Haha, yeah, pretty amusing conversation! Thanks for helping clear the tension around here a little, and watch out for the birds-
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:59 PM
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I find you speaking from personal experience and refusing to answer my points just as ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:57 PM
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Again, subjective observation. It is true some dogs are born more aggressive than others, but these dogs typically end up destroying a pack in their aggression rather than gaining a benefit. Nature favors cooperation more than it does aggression (see Roamer’s video on altruism.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:49 PM
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“Yet all bullies are popular” Again, google search of “movie bullies” brings up 3 exceedingly unpopular people cast to look bad. These are cult classic kids movies like Home Alone, or classics in general like Back to the Future. You keep claiming “all bullies are popular” without giving examples or sources. It might not sell to me, sure, but the cult classics Google brings up sure doesn’t fit into their patterns. (If you see the problem with my argument here, you see the problem with subjective …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:47 PM
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No way, hard evidence! I’m gonna have to watch my roof tonight…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:38 PM
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I'm not a fan of rating people in general, but if that's what you wanna do! I'll rate cute animals, and bagels, and also how likely it is that birds are government spies and work for the bourgeoisie (this one's an in-joke). I'd say the likelihood right now sits around a zeta for me, but that might increase given more time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:16 PM
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"I just don't think that's how men work." And that is your very subjective experience. Science is flawed, yes, but a subjective experience is the most flawed thing, yet the hardest thing to change someone's mind about. I have subjective experiences - everybody does - but if I don't have a scientific source for it, I try my best not to argue it, only arguing it to contend with other people arguing it. I see women as working, at least biologically-mentally, the same as men. The "male-female" brain…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:12 PM
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I have seen way too many people arguing that "in the animal kingdom, animals are born alphas or betas!" This is not true. It gets on my nerves. I wanted to clarify that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:01 PM
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I'm looking to fill out my greek letter bingo card sometime soon - already seen most of em, but there are a few rare ones that don't seem to pop up nearly as often. (Honestly though, they're just letters in another language.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:54 PM
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Apologies, was just using the other person's words since they included it in their response. Can see how that might be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:52 PM
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I did do my own research. Hierarchies are ever-shifting - no one alpha is ever at the top for too long. In eusocial kingdoms, alphas are typically the most-liked, while betas manage the community in the background. This is transient as well. Great apes, the most closely-related group of animals to us, are the most damning - male chimps do have hierarchy but not as aggressively as once described (eusocial alpha behaviour favors bonds over aggressiveness,) and bonobos are matriarchal and less aggr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:42 PM
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It's for people who argue 'it's natural in humans because this is how it happens in animals,' and then proceed to pull out a long-debunked view.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:38 PM
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The problem is that, overwhelmingly in media, popular men are not bullies. Popular men are those that are kindest to their groups. And, in the media I consume, women do not fall head over heels for these 'popular men.' In a lot of these medias, they are more than happy to remain friends. Maybe I watch too much horror and not enough romcoms, too much fantasy and sci-fi and not enough drama. But no one will have quite the same experience in media as I do - speaking from experience isn't accurate w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:34 PM
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Please read before you comment. I have addressed this in multiple studies above. If you are refuting me, please refute the studies either with citations of your own or point out inconsistencies. Hierarchies are much more transient than they first appear.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:20 PM
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I’m seeing this in a lot of comments, so I’m just gonna use this copy paste to address them all from now on: We are arguing two different points. I am arguing that alphas and betas do not occur outside of humans in the way most people perceive the definition, and you looked at this, and walked away thinking something different. Which is okay, but not the point I’m arguing. I argue the current definition of alpha-beta is a human thing and should be debated in human context. And if you're saying i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:19 PM
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You pointed to media in order to prove outside content, so you’ve entered a logic loop fallacy. “They’re popular in real life… and my proof is that they’re popular in real life.” Please rephrase your second point; it’s worded confusingly and could mean several different things. The stereotype a long time ago was that pink was a masculine color and blue was associated with femininity. This is obviously a tame example, but claiming stereotypes don’t change is denying societal growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:17 PM
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I’ve been mulling this over for a while, and I can’t tell whether they’re lying or not. Overestimating is a thing a lot of us do, and it doesn’t bear thinking that celebrities do lie to make themselves look more desirable, but aside from their own word I can find almost nothing on any of these.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:14 PM
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I do not in fact know anyone who has broken up for that, but I do in fact know a couple who is threatening breakup because the wife “doesn’t earn enough.” Again, lived experiences differ, and there really isn’t enough data here to make a good assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:01 PM
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I’m gonna need a claim for that body count thing, since I can’t find any info on it - it sounds an awful lot like a conspiracy theory to me. And again, I can argue the same for men - the more famous a woman is, the more likely they are to vye for her approval, many who don’t even know her personally. The only difference is that they don’t accept quite so easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:46 PM
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Great apes such as Bonobos and the aforementioned Chimpanzees are more closely related to us - and I am not arguing patriarchy does not exist, just that it is not an absolute. You are arguing human behaviour next, which is not my point, but I will counter with the fact that a lot of men drool over, make (without the person’s consent usually) nsfw subs for and generally fixate on famous attractive women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:27 PM
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Please do enlighten me?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:17 PM
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Why are we talking about wars when the point is on lions? But yeah, definitely came off as insensitive and closed-minded in trying to argue that last point. 200-300 years encompasses both world wars, the Falklands war, the US-led war in Afghanistan, some “wars” which are more aptly referred to as massacres, and more. Sorry about that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:17 PM
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And here’s the problem. “If they were glorified, you wouldn’t stop to watch or read” - except you claimed earlier that these popular bullies are everywhere in fiction. Which is it? Also, representation is constantly changing. Billy from stranger things looks handsome, but he’s a racist deadbeat abuser of a caregiver. Steve, the “jock” character, is in actuality quite smart. While I won’t argue with the fact that Dustin is portrayed as stereotypically ‘nerdy,’ say that about Mike or Will and you …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:07 PM
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Bold of you to assume I’m an American: but you do have to admit the rate of wars is down from 300 or even 200 years ago. We still need armies, we just don’t actively feed them as much (bar the US actively dumping money into its military.) And I am not talking about human rule, again, as much as I am talking about lions - and lions do have that gynecocrasy. Humans is a totally different debate: again, not what I’m arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:59 PM
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I apologize for misinterpreting your point - but yes, the parents in a family of course will hold the most power. I take issue with the claim “strongest male takes it all,” though. If you read above, and some of my ape-related comments below, you’ll quickly see that for eusocial creatures in particular it’s “most well liked” (often male) takes first precedence (but not all, because then they would be disliked.) And bonobos, another species of great ape closely related to us but often overlooked …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:31 PM
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Yes, in the same way a nation needed to keep up its army in the past in order not to be invaded. But the army wasn’t the one running the nation - the government was. It is still matriarchal because the female lions run the group, and if you claim otherwise the Kurdish ethnic group are a matriarchy because their army is composed primarily of women (a statement anyone will probably think is absurd.) And they do not hunt for the sole purpose of feeding their man either - if they did that, no lion p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:05 PM
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The author of the study literally said it was wrong after 30 additional years of research. The alphas in any given group (of wolves) are just the parents. Read my essay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:01 PM
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First result: Biff Tannen, gets what he wants by way of intimidation and fear. Second Result: Scut Farkus, only really respected in the bully hierarchy and generally feared by everyone else. Third Result: Ace Merrill, I don’t know this guy. Fourth Result: the bully from home alone, is there a case for anyone but his parents liking that guy? Results? Inconclusive. All of them seem to support my theory, but again, subjective comparisons do not work. Nerdy characters tend to get bullied “more” - th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:55 PM
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This one slipped by me, sorry: but many people try to use animals (specifically great apes) to justify aggressive masculine behaviour, which is simply not a foundationally solid argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:28 PM
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It is genuinely hard to find information on this, but in a study of both men and women they found that substance abuse, infidelity and domestic abuse were the three highest causes for divorce - likely applying to men and women both. It is important to note things like “financial problems” fall lower on this list even though 69% (56% if you believe a different metric) of people who file for divorce are women - and those three reasons would suggest that women file for divorce on roughly the same t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:17 PM
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I don’t know what books your school had you read when you were a kid or what movies you watched because my experience is so absurdly different that an objective comparison doesn’t even work. I would imagine the bully as someone who doesn’t have any friends, but by way of their intimidation strikes fear into everyone - that’s the portrayal of the bully in most books I’ve read, along with the jock as “dumb.” Subjective comparisons speaking from your own experience do not work, and pretending they …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:10 PM
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Yes, but many of these points can be made for men as well. Men of course want a woman who looks the best in the world and radiates presence, but they (a lot of the time, sadly) need someone who’s willing to do a lot of the housework for them, from ironing to cleaning to cooking. They too balance these traits in a very similar fashion as women do, and pretending they wouldn’t prefer a woman that makes an income is just a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:51 PM
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This whole women cuckoldry thing is also a myth: cheating is about equal by gender. Plus, women’s brains are more naturally polygamous as well - they’re just locked into the same system as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:36 PM
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Of course it doesn’t make you instantly right - but I guarantee that if you walked into my old school you would not see any “alpha” or “beta,” just students. If I made my judgment off observations alone, I’d conclude everyone submits to authority and everyone loses in human society. Is that true? Maybe, but it’s a lot less reliable than something like, I don’t know, a study.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:23 PM
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And they are in charge shorter than the ones who bind well with their group but are less strong. Aggressive alphaism is not ideal, and extrapolating that idea to human society is even less ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:13 PM
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Sighs. Again, personal experience over science. Science is wrong 90% of the time but it’s still the best model of the world - a lot better than personal experience. If you want to leave it at that, have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:12 PM
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Good, so we agree. This post is primarily for the people who argue it’s true in nature, so it must be true in humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:52 PM
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Good, so we agree. This post is primarily for the people who argue it’s true in nature, so it must be true in humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:51 PM
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Again, I quote a book by Frans de Waal - that study involved 90% males, so of course the scientist concluded males were aggressive and dominant. In fact, female alphas do exist: one in every group. Primatologists - the people who study monkeys - don’t even mention that study anymore. Why? Because it’s outdated. And though chimpanzees are still male dominated (though by a lesser margin), other great apes such as bonobos - which we are also closely related to - are not. See studies in above post t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:47 PM
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I’m only doing this because other people are making the argument “but those animals do it!” to me. Plus, anyone in a room can pinpoint the “alpha and beta?” Come again? Please cite your sources. Also, I have stated how fluid and transient hierarchies are even in nature - there is no alpha today who is an alpha a year from now - and traditionally alphas are kind and respected, and aggressive alphas (toward their own pack) are easily overthrown. If you’re not arguing nature, good for you - this po…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:32 PM
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The male eats first, yes, but it is a lioness who does the majority of the hunting and manages the pride (see above.) Even though male lions are stronger, they primarily only attack and defend - like a nation’s army - while male lions do everything else. I am a blackpiller Subreddit rules. Online Dating Of course it’s going to be looks first in online dating. Looks does have a large part in first impressions, yes, but that’s all it is - first impressions. Because in real life, you interact with …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:21 PM
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“torn apart and overthrown” Unfortunately, as pointed out in a point above, alphas who do this, alphas who are “too aggressive” end up hindering the group as a whole, and this is obviously not preferred. See the aggressive alphas link I posted above.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:06 PM
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That made your views very clear. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:51 AM
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I’m seeing this in a lot of comments, so I’m just gonna use this copy paste to address them all from now on: We are arguing two different points. I am arguing that alphas and betas do not occur outside of humans in the way most people perceive the definition, and you looked at this, and walked away thinking something different. Which is okay, but not the point I’m arguing. I argue the current definition of alpha-beta is a human thing and should be debated in human context. Also the capitalistic …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:50 AM
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So men who fall victim to abusers also need to pick better women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:36 AM
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This exactly - it parallels so well it’s not even funny. Ironically? Sure. As an in joke, or not taken too seriously? Why the heck not. Unironically to the point where your actions can hurt other people and you are defined by it? Why even?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:35 AM
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Glad we can both agree Tate is absolute garbage! That is your choice, and I can’t change that, but one thing I will point out is that single moms are overwhelmingly single because of abusive partners who are really good at hiding it (just look at serial killers) or other extenuating circumstances, and there should probably be a welfare net for that sort of thing. if they went single just because they thought they had more control over the kids or they were possessive or even if they didn’t reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:23 AM
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Men want them too. Sexual appeal comes first, ability to provide second for many of them (just look how horny the internet is.) That’s just everyone at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:09 AM
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Nowhere did I say matriarchies are ideal state, I am saying patriarchies are not ideal. These are not the same. “They (female lions) catch the vast majority of the food, and they guard the territory from intruders.” “90% of the pride is related and if it gets too big, moms carve out new territory for their daughters next door.” Yes, male lions do have rivalries and kill each others families to force breeding, but some female wasps eat male wasps after they are done breeding - males are still dom…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:07 AM
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Okay then, humor me one last time and point out what is wrong in this latest assumption of mine, since it does appear to be your talking point - and if you don’t want to, then very well and goodnight. Edit: let me do what you have done. You’re claiming that I’m saying your editing made me look like an idiot. I claim no such thing. I simply said you edited comments to erase your communication mistakes, and I did not. That’s true. Up until now, where I’m doing it to prove a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:02 AM
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Yes, that is exactly the point I am trying to make. I thought you argued with me because you did not agree with that point in the article. I am trying to inform people who believe that is wrong, and that aggressive masculinity, coercion via things like ‘negging,’ and et cetera that the view they have is not scientifically grounded. I simply did not see a point for your first comment - but this article was not aimed at you, only for those (and there are many, just look at Tate’s following) who be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:01 AM
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To be fair, flairing it as CMV will just get a lot of people arguing that these particular studies are false, and you know where that goes: most peer reviewed studies are false, we can’t trust anything nowadays because of p-hacking, yadda yadda.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:58 AM
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Repost since you edited your comment: Is math and logic not how we reason things out? All I have been doing is pointing out unreasonable conclusions, and you have been pointing me in the correct direction to the conclusion you are looking for. Either you realize there is a fallacy, or I realize there is no fallacy. That is when the chain of logic ends. You claim that a small, select group of men may be hijacking and impregnating many, many women. Am I correct in this assertion? And thus, that is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:53 AM
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I have not invalidated hierarchy - read what I have posted. I claim hierarchy is natural. I claim hierarchy changes more than humans claim it does, and thus 'alpha' is held often by one animal and then by another depending on changes in social structure and environment. The problem is, humans do not exhibit this behavior, instead clinging to their 'top' status because they claim it in nature, and I have ruled this claim as 'not true,' because no animal in a pack maintains alpha aggressor status …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:51 AM
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Perhaps I should be more clear with my definition of "construct" - you have defined everything as construct, and as of now, we are debating on your rules. I would like to apologize for not being more clear, and clarify. I define "construct," as all things within it are, a human experience. My point is, we noticed these patterns in wild animals, we pointed them out, and they rooted themselves in human psyche. Then, when they turned out to be wrong, that "construct" did not build upon itself, inst…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:39 AM
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True, but let's do some more simple mathematics. Assuming less than 50% of men have sex, and thus less than 50% of women have sex, every couple must have about 4 children in order to maintain equilibrium, and 4.6 for our world to grow as it is. I can safely assure you that is not happening. (In developing countries, there may be a slight edge, but an average of 4.6 is still ludicrous and will get you laughed at if you suggest it.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:31 AM
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So are numbers, but they are a representation. They are rooted in the universe. If 1/137 did not exist, in some pure, unfettered form, the universe would cease to work. Language is not a purely human construct: even things like cells and atoms communicate, we have merely communicated more. Art is a tricky one: in theory, there is a perfect, functioning world without art, but we are not in that world. The difference is that most people will not use art in an attempt to actively harm others via ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:29 AM
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Repost since you edited your comment: The average rate is 2.3. Averages take all that into account. (And if you're saying it's a huge mess, and you're saying it's not 1:1 man to woman, then that implies more men are having sex with women and having children than the other way around: think about it for a second and you'll realize that's the only way what you said could swing. Which is the exact opposite of your argument.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:24 AM
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I repeat, world average rate of fertility is 2.3. Let's break down that statement. On average, every mother will have 2.3 children. That means, on average, if everybody was a mother, we could expect a 15% (0.3 / 2) population growth, assuming no death at all! Perfect technology everywhere! Let's shrink that. Half of all the men, women, any couple, really on earth have 2.3 children. How many children is that? Well, that'd be a new 4.6 billion children to replace the 8 billion currently on earth, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:12 AM
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Exactly this. The power of socialization overpowers sheer strength and aggression in most communities of primates. Hierarchy is a lot more ever-shifting than cemented: thank you for elaborating on this as well. To add onto your tips, and this is going off the topic of science and into the topic of opinion, really, there are only two steps for dating successfully: - don't be a jerk, even when your spouse isn't around - have a personality That's it! It's okay if you get rejected - most people will…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:06 AM
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Sorry, thought that was implied. Most people argue that the rate at which women find mates is faster because they're more "attractive" on the usual. Force of habit. But this falls into a similar argument: explain overpopulation if average fertility rate is 2.3 and "most men have a hard time finding mates."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:55 AM
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Please read my essay. I am referring to "alpha-beta" in terms of claims that a patriarchal violence-hungry class structure is the norm, which a lot of people argue - you are addressing a separate (and also easily-dispelled) argument that claims men have a much harder time finding mates compared to women (why the overpopulation? The average fertility rate is 2.3 per woman, accounting for the population boom in developing countries like India - if the ratio were skewed in favor of more women findi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:43 AM
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Unfortunately, for many of us, we perceive ourselves as being "oppressed." Sometimes this is true, sometimes this is not. The redpill group thinks men are being oppressed by women, and that women have it better. (Sorry to redpillers, but I'm not willing to cite a study here. Find your own!) The bluepill group thinks misogyny is pervasive, and violence is exceedingly perpetuated by men. (This is proven to be true: in the US, 98.9% of sexual assaulters are men, 79.7% of domestic abusers are men, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:39 AM
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