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Well your mistake is expecting women to be honest. And signing a contract that binds you together so you it's hard to get recourse if they don't make good on their promise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:11 PM
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Once your kid's no longer a baby he's gonna be at school 7 hours a day, 5 days a week, 9 months of the year. Something to remember. all household chores, grocerie shopping, laundry, making sure all bills and commitments are met, Realistically how much time does all of this take per week? I'd say 20 hours maximum.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:03 PM
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If you're working 40+ hours a week and all she has to do is housework I think you got yourself a pretty bad deal there. This isn't the 1950s anymore, we have so many appliances now that make domestic chores a breeze. It doesn't even come close to a full time job in terms of time and effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:15 PM
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If you're truly happy then I'm happy for you but half of marriages end in divorce, and of the half that don't I think a lot of men are unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:59 PM
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how old are you if i may ask? Early 20s where some people find it okay to have the SO parade their bodies for a few dollars It's not necessarily just a "few dollars", some women can make bank off this stuff. For minimal effort. when this change happened Boomers like you want to find someone to marry and spend your whole life with. I just want to enjoy the relationship for as long as it lasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:56 PM
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So a wife its wrong a girlfriend is right? When did that change? Promiscuous women are more likely to be unsatisfied in a relationship, more likely to cheat and/or leave you. With a girlfriend it's a clean and easy break and you can move on with your life. With a wife you're going to get divorce raped. And even then, i mean to each his own, but if you can imagine your girl doing that to please others and it doesnt bother you, then you never shared that connection to begin with. She's selling nud…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:32 PM
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Idk about no2 man, aint onlyfans basically porn It is but it's usually solo. Like nudes or masturbation or whatever. if my wife had that There's your problem. You're married.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:28 PM
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Well good and bad are subjective. I don't dislike promiscuous women, I don't care about n-count. But it's not the same and I understand why many people make that distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:01 PM
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I also don't care about n-count, there's no way to really know for sure anyways and marriage is ALWAYS a bad idea. If she cheats or starts treating you badly you can just leave. Too many guys are huffing that tradcon copium, looking for their unicorn. There's nothing wrong with dating an OnlyFans girl, it isn't "cucked". They're not having sex with anyone else and they're mainly doing it for the money. Their job doesn't mean they aren't attracted to you or that they won't treat you well, both se…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:48 PM
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The idea of "Female promiscuity = Bad, Male promiscuity = Good" is an obvious double standard. There is such a thing as a fat and ugly slut, there is no such thing as a fat and ugly stud.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:47 PM
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Make alot of money Just be careful not to be the beta bucks. It doesn't lead to satisfying relationships where you're treated well. So what can a guy do to increase his efforts in a smaller amount of time to get what he wants with women? Be a douchebag, be less agreeable and less eager(does not work if you are physically unattractive) Shoe lifts Grow a beard if you're a chinlet/jawlet(maybe not fast but pretty easy if you have the right genes)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 10:54 AM
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Women will always have eyes for the most attractive men, and men will always be willing to stick their dick in anything that moves. That's just how it is, that's just how we are. These are deeply ingrained behaviors with evolutionary explanations. What you're saying is like saying that the solution to the obesity crisis is for people to simply put the fork down, eat less, and eat less calorie dense foods. It's ridiculous. We evolved to eat more and to like calorie dense foods for a reason. The o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 10:33 AM
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Your only basis is something to do with iq testing is more “abstract” what does this even mean and how are you discounting the cognitive studies in this regard? "Abstract" simply means the test relies less on knowledge, the questions are less related to the things you learn in school. Why do you assume iq testing is such a better measurement of intelligence rather than these cognition studies You should ask psychologists that question...... you’re assuming they are just “regurgitation of facts” …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:06 AM
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Oh I thought you linked the original meta analysis as evidence of mens “superiority” or something. The person I was arguing with claimed in their comment that "women are just as smart as men" and I disagreed, I didn't bring it up out of nowhere. There are good reasons to believe that women are not as intelligent, generally. Except for a few areas like emotional intelligence and memory(if you count that as intelligence) where they probably surpass men. I think the sex disparity in intelligence ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:34 AM
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I’m asking why you seem to per se believe iq tests are better at judging which gender is “superior” I never said anything about which gender is "superior". I mean I’m no expert by any means, just seems like you’ve automatically decided one thing is better than the other without really looking into it much farther. I have read the full paper of the meta-analysis by Lynn and Irwing, the one I linked. The studies linked in the APA article I think are reasonable to dismiss prima facie, since they ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:25 AM
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What do you mean? Are you asking why I prefer using IQ tests over academic tests to gauge intelligence? Well it's not just me, there's a reason that psychologists design IQ tests and use them to measure intelligence. They're designed to have more abstract questions, as opposed to things you'd learn in school. This makes them better at gauging intelligence as opposed to just knowledge. Especially the progressive matrices test, which was the meta-analysis I linked looked at. This is what the quest…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:09 AM
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like how did these cognition studies you’re critical of distinguish between the older IQ studies or vice versa I'm just accepting the descriptions in the article at face value. They use terms like "math performance" or "math skills" which makes it clear that these are not IQ tests, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:45 AM
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First off I want to say that I appreciate the civility, it's not too common around here. The article linked talks about cognition and even gender differences (or lack thereof) measured in infants and very young children. I see one reference to an experiment with infants. When you're dealing with test subjects that young, who can't even talk, I'm not sure how applicable the results are to older children or adults. The other references Is knowledge versus intellect really a fair distinguishing fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:37 AM
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I said that men's physical strength was necessary for a common form of agriculture, I never claimed that "men invented farming", whatever the hell that means. I'm not sure how farming was first discovered, many paleoanthropologists think it was an accident, like many things. People harvesting wild cereals might have left a few seeds lying around and discovered that they grew into new plants. And farming developed independently in many different places, it wasn't one person that invented it. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 09:04 PM
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it was still women who gathered the plants and the man who hunted the animals... everywhere. I know. But you were talking about farming, not gathering. Just can't let it sink in that women have contributed more to civilization than just being baby-making machines I never said that women were just "baby-making machines", you pulled that out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:40 PM
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Illiterate hunter gatherers, who only ever produced crude art, somehow managed to record complex details about their societies including division of labor based on sex. No I will not provide a single source or example supporting this claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 07:38 PM
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We have been recording things in one way or another for about 10000 years. And throughout, women have done the majority of cooking and feeding. How have hunter gatherers recorded women cooking and feeding? Can you cite a source?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 07:31 PM
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Well in the context of paleoanthropology the definition of the word "human" is often extended to include other closely related hominins. It's not limited to just our species, homo sapiens.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 06:39 PM
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Thousands of years of recorded history Writing developed well after agriculture. When you're talking about literate societies that recorded things, you're talking about agricultural societies. Hunter gatherers didn't have writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 06:35 PM
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The Inuit knew how to cook food....... Butchering, skinning, chopping. What makes you so sure that this would have been done by women and not by men or both sexes? And moreover, what makes you so sure that cooking was the responsibility of women amongst hunter-gatherers generally? Certainly in agrarian societies this is the case but we know less about hunter-gatherers. Do you have any evidence to support this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:57 PM
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resident boomer speaking the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:48 PM
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Women have fed everyone for thousands of years. They began feeding with non cooked food How exactly were they "feeding" people if cooking didn't exist, apart from physically feeding their children?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:47 PM
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we can guess that women were largely responsible for it. No, we can't. And you haven't cited a single source that supports your narrative. You might be able to guess that innovations in food preparation since the initial discovery of cooking, and women assuming the task of food preparation, were from women. But it should go without saying that cooking did not exist before it was invented. We simply ate meat raw like other animals do. The gendered division of labor when it comes to cooking didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:42 PM
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Yes I know how cooking enabled larger brains in humans, you don't need to womansplain these basic things to me. I know far more about human evolution than you do. The article you linked does not address how humans discovered cooking. It even says: The Brazilian scientists, however, don't speculate on how we stumbled on cooking LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:37 PM
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One random study. This is a meta-analysis that aggregates the results of many different studies. Here’s an article that points to many many studies I've read this article before, the difference is that these tests are not IQ tests. They are tests of knowledge. IQ tests are designed to be as abstract as possible and measure intelligence, not knowledge. These are two different things. In the context of human evolution for example, we may be significantly more knowledgeable about the world than our…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:33 PM
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If they're accustomed to eating raw meat how would they even know that food could be improved? You haven't cited a single source to support your claims, you're just speculating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:28 PM
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I don't care, that's not the point of this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:18 PM
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There is no data proving women are inherently inferior to men in any meaningful way. Well, "inferior" and "superior" are subjective value judgements. We refuse to take on a secondary role or supplemental role. You should speak for yourself. We are just as smart and capable as you are. You sure about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:17 PM
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Indigenous Americans were far from the only societies that grew their food though, why do you choose to focus on them specifically? Different societies do agriculture differently. Eurasian agrarian societies for example relied on cereals as a staple food, and farmers growing these crops used plows and draft animals. Physical strength would have been necessary and women simply would not have been able to do many kinds of agricultural labor as well as men. Whereas agriculture in many Indigenous Am…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:10 PM
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But how would you know that heating food makes it safer, more palatable, and easier to digest? ??????
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:03 PM
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Strictly speaking it isn’t just about the individual’s reproductive success, but also the reproductive success of the people within the population that share the same sets of genes. Well this is a bit semantic, but the reproductive success of individuals closely related to you is also your reproductive success. I defined reproductive success in terms of passing on your genes, and this doesn't have to be done directly by having your own offspring. Otherwise I basically agree, I should have includ…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:00 PM
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By combining foods and adding heat. How would they know that heating food results in certain chemical changes that make it easier to digest?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:54 PM
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Does it say "red pill" next to my username? The whole point of the redpill is to be able to predict women’s behaviour in order to manipulate them into giving you what you want. They can use knowledge of evolutionary psychology and human behavior to achieve certain goals, but evolutionary psychology itself is not prescriptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:35 PM
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What role should women really play according to our animal nature? Did you even read my post? "Evolutionary biology answers descriptive questions(what is/was). It does not answer prescriptive questions(what ought to be)." Who has more power under the mammal model, men or women? Different mammals have different kinds of social structures. But as for humans, virtually all human societies that have ever existed, regardless of whether they were hunter-gatherers, horticultural, agricultural, or pasto…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:33 PM
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I'm not prescribing human behavior, I'm describing human behavior. And our behavior is shaped by natural selection, same as other animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:26 PM
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No, it could have been discovered by accident, and probably was. Like how exactly could hunter gatherers "invent" cooking?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:24 PM
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Women invented agriculture, the basis of all civilization. They also probably invented clothing. Do you have any evidence to support these claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:22 PM
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Yet you conflate them in your post, clearly trying to flatten the differences between humans and all other animals. All animals are different but humans are not fundamentally different from other animals. The processes that affect other animals also affect us.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:21 PM
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I did not say that human discoveries cannot shape our evolution, and we have zero idea how cooking was invented......
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:20 PM
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Humans are not the only animal that uses tools and I never said that tool use can't affect our evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:18 PM
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Whales behave like whales, rats behave like rats, and humans behave like humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:17 PM
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Some especially important parts: MISCONCEPTION: Evolution leads to immoral behavior. CORRECTION: Evolution does not make ethical statements about right and wrong. Some people misinterpret the fact that evolution has shaped animal behavior (including human behavior) as supporting the idea that whatever behaviors are “natural” are the “right” ones. This is not the case. It is up to us, as societies and individuals, to decide what constitutes ethical and moral behavior. Evolutionary biology answers…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:46 AM
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Because men want women to be 100% pure until they meet him Can't speak for other guys, but TRP guys generally do not care that much about the n-count of their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 02:56 AM
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If someone has sex quickly with you, they’ve done it with other people too This is true but it's important to remember that the inverse isn't necessarily true. Just because she makes you wait doesn't mean that she has made other guys wait, especially if she's older. That's basically the whole point of AF/BB. I don't think many people will disagree that women tend to become less promiscuous as they get older, which is kinda the core of AF/BB. I'm sure there are some young women that aren't intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 02:41 AM
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I think many if not most women can be content being celibate, but certainly not men. They show no signs of anger or bitterness Just because they're not outwardly angry or bitter doesn't mean they're satisfied being an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 01:59 AM
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99% of women are sexually harassed in their lifetimes It's not just 99% of women......
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 01:42 AM
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Unwanted touching is...trivial? Yes, it is. All of us will be subject to unwanted touching at some point in our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:30 PM
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I don't think it would fall under the legal definition of "sexual assault" in many states, that term is usually reserved for nonconsensual sexual contact involving penetration of some kind. And broadening the definition of "sexual assault" to include relatively trivial things like unwanted touching is semantic bleaching. So if you want to go down that road then having your ass grabbed in a nightclub and being brutally anally raped at gunpoint are both "sexual assault".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:10 PM
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which included a recorded conversation with him apologizing Pretty sure that recording was about a groping incident, not rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 11:51 AM
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Fucking someone to advance your career isn't coercion. It's prostitution. As long as there were no threats of violence then it was perfectly consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 11:50 AM
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I mean juries don't always get it right. A jury let OJ off the hook when the evidence against him was overwhelming.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:52 AM
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The evidence was just complainant testimony, one of the least reliable kinds of evidence IMO. Since the person testifying isn't neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:46 AM
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so the fact that it's also her child means nothing. Not really no. This isn't a burden(raising a child IS a burden) that comes up after you've already established yourselves in a relationship and grown attached, like illness or injury. This is a burden you know from the start and decide whether to accept or not, and at that point there's no "love" unless you're one of those weirdos who "falls in love at first sight". Her burden in this case is the burden of a random woman you just met. It's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:39 AM
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Being physically violent towards your partner is far, far, worse than being a drug addict.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:12 PM
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And maybe some men are just too cowardly to take on the responsibility of fatherhood. "If you won't be my beta bucks and help me raise another man's child you're a coward." LMAO, like fucking clockwork. This is exactly what I was talking about. Not wanting to raise someone else's child doesn't mean you don't want to be a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 08:28 PM
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big https://sci-hub.se/https://doi.org/10.1098/rspb.2007.0564 Hunter gatherer residential groups average around 15 members in the most dispersed phases and 50 members in the most aggregated phases. I wouldn't call that a "big group". And even though many people pitch in, children are still primarily the responsibility of their mother. https://sites.oxy.edu/clint/evolution/articles/WhoRespondstoCryingMaternalCareandAllocareamongtheKung.pdf https://www.melvinkonner.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/H…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 05:49 PM
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Actually many anthropologists now think it's more likely we raised children together in a tribe than in mating pairs. In most pre-agricultural societies the person primarily responsible for raising children is typically the mother, and then her family members and the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:43 PM
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an individual life begins at conception. Are you illiterate?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 05:32 AM
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A coma is a medical condition. Ok, and? It's still incapable of suffering or feeling pain. Something which was human at one point can cease to be a human you know, when a human dies the corpse is no longer considered to be a human by biologists. It's just a piece of meat. By definition any living member of the species Homo Sapiens is a human. The fetus/embryo/zygote fits that definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 05:14 AM
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it does not mean it's a fully realized human It's no less human and no less of an individual than you or I. with capacity for thought and suffering You don't need to be capable of thinking or suffering to be a human. If you end up in a coma you're still a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:42 AM
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And evolutionary psychology is part and parcel of Darwinian evolution. If certain behaviors and mental characteristics can impact an organism's reproductive success then the process of natural selection will select for or against these traits. Traits that improve reproductive success will become more common in the population over time and traits that hurt reproductive success will become less common over time. This is the same way that natural selection works for any other trait. If you deny it,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:40 AM
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Unfortunately judges are not scientists and are often bad at understanding science. For example, in Roe v Wade the Supreme Court declared that humans didn't know when life began despite the fact that it was and is a consensus amongst biologists that an individual life begins at conception. So I wouldn't say that judges are the best authority on whether a scientific theory or belief is sound or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:34 AM
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"Yeah well I know a guy....." It was a general statement. If you want to nitpick I can rephrase my statement to "men generally don't want to raise kids that aren't their own". Maybe she was hot and that made him overlook it, or maybe he's an undesirable guy that didn't have better options. Or some combination of the two. Or some other reason, I don't fucking know. Social conditioning could have played a role, some men are spineless bitches that fall for the "respect women" and "a real man would …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 02:22 AM
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Too many instances of insanely powerful people promoting adopted children over their own flesh and blood. You should give some examples. I know it was a common practice for Roman emperors to "adopt" a son and designate them as heirs, but this was usually because they didn't have any male offspring that survived to adulthood. I have never ever heard of a powerful man in history designating an adopted son as an heir over their own adult biological son. Not once.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:18 AM
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Human the man isn’t wired for monogamy nor wired to be close to more than a community of 150-250. Our mating habits were likely fierce egalitarianism and mating probably happened kind of orgy style. This is false. Humans do pair bond and socially monogamous relationships are by far the most common type of sexual relationship in virtually all human societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:07 AM
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And even eusocial insects dedicate their lives to providing for their mother and their siblings, their genetic kin. They're not raising unrelated individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 12:05 AM
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any man who thinks he has a chance will try, even if he didn't think he had a chance 3 hours ago I think most average or below average men learn from experience and realize that they will have a hard time getting their dicks wet without commitment. And even if that were true, men trying to pursue casual sex doesn't make dating hard for you if they're still willing to commit in the end. There are maaany. Your problem is they stay far away from men like you and mutual friends would never introduce…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:47 PM
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It's not a guess it's a fact LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:39 PM
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Says who? Says evolutionary psychology. Men who spent their lives investing in unrelated children would be far less reproductively successful than men who spent their lives investing in their own biological offspring. Or alternatively other related children such as siblings and nieces/nephews.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:34 PM
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The fact is many of males and females mate-selection are VERY conscious. Some types are to an extent, sure. But not necessarily. That was my point. It doesn’t even match up as “most sexually successful” because there’s high risk of the cuckolded man simply killing to woman Realistically what are the chances he can tell it's not his child? It's not like interracial sexual relationships were common throughout most of human history. And even if he could tell, what are the chances he could get away …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:27 PM
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labor being divided by sex is not at ALL mutually exclusive with women being equal partners with men. Then why are feminists so critical of sex-based division of labor, so vehemently opposed to traditionalist ideas that women should be the primary homemakers and caregivers of children? And in virtually every single society, positions of political power are held by men. Even in relatively egalitarian societies like the Haudenosaunee noted for being matrilineal and matrifocal, their political lead…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:38 PM
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They were equal partners with men. This is a myth. In virtually all hunter-gatherer societies men hold political power and labor is divided based on sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:22 PM
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I certainly don't dispute that it's common for men to behave this way, that is to say, being willing to hook up with less desirable women but reserving commitment and relationships for more desirable women. But I don't think it's really accurate to call it a "dual mating strategy". When it comes to dual mating strategy/strategic pluralism in women there is an emphasis on the two ways she evaluates men as partners, the two kinds of relationships women seek. The provider("beta bucks") and the sper…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:05 PM
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A high quality man is different to everyone woman tho? Research indicates that there is a high degree of agreement/consensus on facial attractiveness. People tend to agree with other people about who is better looking. And some traits like broader shoulders, being tall, more muscle/less fat, are virtually universally as being attractive in men. How many are obese? Most Americans are obese or overweight, and if we measure by waist circumference or body fat percentage(better indicator than BMI imo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:49 PM
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Please prove to me that what I want is not what I say I want bc it’s giving. “No means yes to a woman” Social desirability bias is a very real and documented phenomenon. People will not be honest if they think revealing their true beliefs and feelings will make them look bad. And admitting that you're interest in guys 6ft+ makes you look shallow. I mean it's ridiculous to suggest that we should always take what people say at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:32 PM
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Some RP guys seem to want women who fulfill traditional gender roles (housewife etc) Redpillers are not TradCons, I don't know why so many women here like to lump them in together. When PragerU posted a TradCon video promoting marriage for men it was shit on by TRP. TRP is extremely opposed to marriage. That's probably the most important and most common piece of advice they give: DO NOT GET MARRIED.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:39 AM
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Well by "good genes" I mean genes that maximize reproductive success. Unfortunately that degree of longevity does not significantly improve reproductive success, since by the time you're 80 or 90 your reproductive years are well behind you. It's why so many humans get cancer when they get older. Natural selection hasn't really selected for cancer resistance because cancer primarily affects older people past reproductive age.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:40 AM
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Depp may be an alcoholic and a drug addict but he was not physically aggressive towards her. She started fights, she always him first, he tried to de-escalate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:55 AM
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but I’m sure a few years ago a UK judge People disagree with judges all the time, do you live under a rock? Five judges on the Supreme Court think abortion isn't a constitutionally protected right and half the country is going apeshit over it. I think the real slam dunk was the audio recordings that pretty unambiguously demonstrate that she was the aggressor, she started fights, and that Johnny was the one who tried to de-escalate. The UK judge seemed to not value them much, instead preferring H…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:54 AM
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But with women they tell women to lower their standards This is good advice. The simple fact is that the higher the level of commitment, the higher men's standards will be. Men have low standards for hookups and short flings but higher standards for committed relationships and marriage. Average and below-average women will be disappointed and hurt when they try to bat out of their league with chad, only to find that he won't text back, he won't be exclusive, he won't marry them, etc. they got hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:40 AM
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Looks - Men physical appearance definitely tends to decline somewhat in their 30s. More significantly in their 40s. Balding, fat gain/muscle loss, and skin ageing, are the main culprits. There are exceptions of course but this is generally the case. Money - No brainer, men in their 30s and their 40s are wealthier. But IMO we can't really say that being viewed as a walking ATM means that you're more attractive. Having money doesn't make women like you more, they just like your money. Status - Clo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:32 AM
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One-on-one, womenizers are always always very charming and seductive. I don't think this is mutually exclusive with "treating women like shit". I'm not talking about going on angry woman-hating rants or insulting or hitting women here. I'm using their(women's) definition of what it means for a guy to "treat women like shit". When they complain about this they are talking about guys that: view women as sexual conquests are misogynistic but not in an angry or bitter sense are standoffish and don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 03:55 PM
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Being a douchebag to women is one way you can increase your success with them, therefore it can make you happier. Men who aren't douchebags to women aren't necessarily unsuccessful with women, and aren't necessarily unhappy. This isn't hard to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:17 AM
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Men can derive happiness from things other than women, and of course men don't necessarily need to treat women like shit to have satisfying relationships with women. That's besides the point though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:00 AM
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Like you said, they treat women like shit. That's not going to hurt them LMAO. And TRP is more than just that, lots of guys treat women like shit without having ever heard of TRP. is that they're not even counting, they're just focused more on the best outcome when the timing is right. A guy that isn't attractive, that isn't able to attract many women, probably won't get a happy outcome. At least with regards with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:53 AM
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I think these days SAHMs have it pretty easy and it's far less effort than a full time job. This is the 1950s anymore, couples are having fewer kids and there are so many common appliances that make housework easier and faster. You spend all of your time taking care of the kids, , and cooking meals only to have him come home and ignore or criticize you. Kids spend 7 hours a day at school most of the year from age 4 to adulthood most of the year, and during the summer vacation it's common for fam…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:24 AM
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Most womanizers I've known treated women like shit and generally displayed the traits TRP tries to cultivate(low agreeableness, dominance, standoffish, etc). Football jocks, frat boys, you know, that kind of guy. TRP reflects reality. Believing that nice guys finish first and assholes finish last requires you to be willfully blind to reality. but I've never met a redpill type who was successful. You're not supposed to talk about TRP IRL or use redpill terminology, that's fucking autistic. The fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:01 AM
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I mean scientists make a lot of theories without directly witnessing it. Darwin never directly witnessed natural selection when he proposed his theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 07:06 AM
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men have adopted successful mate guarding strategies I'm not sure how successful mate guarding really is without the kind of harsh legal restrictions on women's freedom that we saw in the pre-industrial agricultural societies. Because of the stark division of labor in hunter-gatherer societies, men simply could not have been with their mates for much of the time. society in general works to prevent this strategy Are you talking about modern society? If so that's not really relevant. I'm not sugg…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 05:45 AM
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I didn't say that. I think that if it can be proven that there was any kind of reproductive coercion against him he shouldn't be responsible for it. Like if she lied about being on birth control, or poked holes in condoms, or took semen from a condom to impregnate herself, or forced him to have sex, or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:21 AM
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Daily reminder to PPD men that women work and provide nowadays, yall aint special. For most of human history daycare and school 7 hours a day didn't exist so women had to spend significantly more time caring for children. And women had way more children because many of them wouldn't survive to adulthood. These were the conditions that shaped our behavior. Even today married men earn significantly more than their wives, 15-30k more depending on age. https://research.stlouisfed.org/publications/ec…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:12 AM
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We do but differences in behavior are usually due to social conditioning. In this absence of modern social conditioning our behavior would not be so different than our hunter gatherer ancestors. And I don't think women are being conditioned to not do AF/BB, not in the west at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:51 AM
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Whole foods are not expensive in the US, you should compare your produce and meat prices to Canada, or to Europe. Way cheaper in the states. And the obesity crisis is not limited to the United States.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:36 AM
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And yet people behave very differently than they once did. In some ways we do, but this isn't necessarily due to biology. For a species with a generation time as long as our own, 10 000 years just isn't enough time for significant changes to happen. Any differences in behavior between stone age hunter gatherers and modern humans is more due to culture and environment than biology. If you had a time travel machine and kidnapped a baby from 10 000 years ago and raised him in modern society, he wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:32 AM
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No, they're just cold calculating reptilian creatures that will only seek out genetic material and money They are capable of loving their sons, fathers, brothers, and men that are sufficiently attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:42 AM
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It was a hyperbole dude. Obviously women won't literally be throwing themselves at you unless you're a celebrity or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:38 AM
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That’s not what your link says though It says that they prefer physical attractiveness, it doesn't say that they wouldn't enthusiastically fuck ugly bitches. I'd prefer a big juicy ribeye steak over a hamburger but if you put a hamburger in front of me I ain't gonna say no and I'll gladly eat it. Are you saying that men that are 8,9,10’s lust after and fantasize about 4,5,6’s regardless of what their other options are? I wouldn't say "fantasize" but they would enthusiastically have sex with them…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 09:26 PM
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For example in Spartan culture That is one culture out of countless cultures, and a very unique culture at that. Spartan men weren't providers for their children, they weren't significantly investing in their children, they barely did any work. Their economy was entirely supported by their slaves and their free noncitizen workers. And after a certain age the children were largely raised by the state. Some Native American tribes functioned similarly to this, where a new husband would move to live…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 09:18 PM
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explain men soon realising the kid isn't theirs because it looks nothing like them Because unless the father of the child is a different race than you, it's not easy to discern fatherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 08:31 PM
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But again, look at the most successful people of nearly any profession, the top slice of society Why are you so focused on a small slice of society? You claimed that I am underestimating "just how much power we have over our built-in animal instincts". By "we" I presume you mean humans generally, correct? Well humans, generally, get fat when they have easy access to calorie dense foods.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 08:21 PM
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And you said that men lusts after average women when your link says they prioritize sexual attractiveness and they don’t change that prioritization. They prefer the most attractive women and may be more willing to invest in these women, but they still find most women sexually attractive and would be more than happy to have intercourse with them. The same cannot be said women and less attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 08:20 PM
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You didn’t answer my question. I did. Universal patrilinealism is a relatively recent development. That wasn't the case for most of human history. When we're talking about natural selection we have to look at the conditions humans lived in for most of history, because those are the conditions we are most adapted to. It really isn’t beside the point. It is the point. Men want a hot woman who is also good a raising kids. Just like women want a hot man who is also good a raising kids. First of all,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 08:12 PM
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But then look at the most successful people in the world, by whatever definition you want - happiness, money, maybe # of mates for the people in this sub - do they eat nothing but cinnabons? Most people in the west are overweight or obese. Certainly a minority of people are not, but they're just that. A minority. The obesity crisis is the one of the best examples of how much our behavior is influenced by natural selection. If you only focus on the people that do have strong willpower and manage …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 07:56 PM
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If the children are first and foremost hers why aren’t they given her last name? Because with the advent of civilization, severe restrictions on women's freedom(what you might call "patriarchy") and severe legal punishments for adultery have reduced men's fears of cuckolding and made them more confident that any children their wives bore were really theirs. But that's a relatively recent development. Hunter gatherers tend to be matrilineal. And there is an evidence that aunts, uncles, and grandp…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 07:37 PM
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It was implied It wasn't implied. Making general statements about groups does not imply that you're claiming these statements apply to every single member of that group. Like most people wouldn't interpret the statement "men are taller than women" as suggesting that every single man is taller than every single woman. Just that men are taller than women on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 07:27 PM
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I wouldn't say it's accurate to describe the role of a mother as "providing for the father's offspring "for most of human history. Women are the natural primary caregivers of children. And the children should be regarded as first and foremost HERS because for the vast majority of human history maternity was certain and paternity was uncertain. At most men could decide to invest in a child that they were reasonably confident was theirs. Men may prefer physically attractive women, but are usually …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 07:24 PM
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The study Which study? So if she’s not the most attractive person he’s settling. I mean, I never suggested otherwise. How is this related to my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 07:19 PM
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I understand that men do desire committed relationships as well but that doesn't mean they're no longer promiscuous once they're in a relationship. Guys can be in relationships with girlfriends they love, and still want to sleep with other women(and sometimes they do).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 07:18 PM
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If you think that my understanding of evolutionary psychology is incorrect, that the scientific articles listed in that Wikipedia article are incorrect, then feel free to explain why. The fact that you haven't done this, and that your counterargument is "nuh uh women say otherwise", is very telling. the reductive bullshit peddled by many of the men on here as justification as to why women won't touch their weiners Don't know where you're getting this from. Both the "alpha fucks" and the "beta bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 07:12 PM
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I never said that women are incapable of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 06:55 PM
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I'm sure it's hard for a woman to empathize with male desires and preferences. Perhaps you may regret sleeping around in the past, but men generally will not. Men evolved to be promiscuous, to desire sexual relationships with as many women as possible, because these kinds of men were more reproductively successful. Shaming men to "man up" and "settle down" like what you are doing here may cow some men into setting aside their desires but it won't make them go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 06:30 PM
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Yet there are ways of interpreting and processing the world that can prevent such circumstances without making yourself unhappy. That's exactly what I'm doing. You have zero reason to believe that my views on the nature of women and relationships make me unhappy, and they don't....... while avoiding emotional anguish. Emotional anguish is inevitable, everyone experiences it from time to time. But having these kinds of views on women isn't necessarily going to make someone angry. I mean look at f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 06:15 PM
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I think the only argument at that point would be that the child is innocent and deserves to be taken care of. I mean if the guy isn't morally responsible for creating it then why should he be the one do it? How would that be any different from grabbing any chump off the street and forcing him to be the dad? If a woman broke into a sperm bank and impregnates herself with some donor's cum how is he responsible for the resulting child?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 06:08 PM
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Whatever emotional pain I might experience is nothing compared to the emotional and financial pain of divorce that half of men who get married will end up going through, or the pain of having to deal with a bitchy wife and a dead bedroom that many men who are still married deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 06:03 PM
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What "outdated evolutionary biology"? And how does this "outdated evolutionary biology" suggest that humans stopped evolving?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 06:00 PM
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When did I say that humans stopped evolving?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 05:50 PM
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Regardless people don’t actually operate this way. I think they do, although it may be hard for you to accept because this theory doesn't paint women in the most stellar light. But what we want to be true has no bearing on what the truth actually is. You’re trying to say everyone lives and feels a particular way I did not use the word "everyone", I'm talking about a general phenomenon. I'm not saying literally every single woman behaves and thinks like this but I have good reason to believe that…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 05:50 PM
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Just because you don't want children doesn't mean that underlying behaviors humans evolved because they were conducive to reproductive success have disappeared.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 05:45 PM
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Your comment fails to acknowledge fundamental biological differences between men and women. This theory doesn't work with the sexes reversed. Men don't just lust after porn stars and IG models. Even average or below average looking women get plenty of sexual attention. Men cannot cuckhold women. Men do not seek female partners as "providers". Women's maternal investment in her children isn't really influenced by how desirable she is. The point I raised about desirable men having many mates and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 05:43 PM
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good looking men get whatever they want They do. and all of us ugly men get nothing I never called myself ugly, and I don't think poorly of myself......
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 05:31 PM
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It’s weird to me to read topics like this that kind of animal simplify it all down Humans are indeed animals. And we're not as different from other animals as many people would like to believe. and actually gives legit advice/comments to help you Advice from anecdotes and personal experience can sometimes be good/correct but is generally inferior to insight derived from empirical research. What works for one man may not work for another. A tall, muscular, white guy with a handsome face doesn't n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 05:25 PM
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we don’t actually have any natural instincts Yes we do, human life today may be very different from human life for most our history but that doesn't that evolved behaviors shaped by our past suddenly disappeared. Your understanding of evolutionary biology is atrocious. An animal in a zoo will still display many of the same behaviors they'd display in the wild. We are actually incredibly displaced from mere animals and we aren’t affected by natural selection, haven't been for ages, and will never…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 05:11 PM
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You do know that intellectual curiosity is a thing right? Regardless, I think the conclusions we can draw from evo-psych research basically affirm stereotypical frat boy attitudes. I.E. be attractive, be a douchebag, don't simp, etc. Folk wisdom can and often is verified by empirical research.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 04:28 PM
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though, if the provider man discovers her infidelity. DNA testing did not exist for the vast majority of human history so paternity was unknowable. It would have been much harder in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 04:12 PM
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I think "strategic pluralism" was the original name of this theory, the name that was coined by the researchers that first proposed it, Steven Gangestad and Jeffry Simpson. So I prefer to use that name. edit: I think I understand it better now, "strategic pluralism" refers more so to the two ways that women evaluate men, as providers and as sperm donors. "Dual mating strategy" refers to the specific strategy of cuckholding a long-term partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 04:00 PM
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An attractive woman is an attractive woman, regardless of age. Old thread but I wanted to chime in. It's important to realize that the OP was talking about what MEN find attractive, not what you find attractive. And it's empirical fact that men consider older women significantly less attractive than younger women, this has been demonstrated time and time again by research. The same is true for women's preferences as well; younger men are more physically attractive to them. But men's desirability…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:25 PM
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because no woman wants a piece of shit husband who will tolerate his shitty friends and family being sexist or total strangers and him not speaking up Most women not only tolerate sexism, but even prefer sexist men, so long as it's not the whiney, nerdy, kind of sexism that incels and neckbeards spout. Why do you think douchebag frat boys and jocks are so sexually successful?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 04:01 AM
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The fact that a man was lonely and he decided he'd rather listen to other angry men than get therapy and work on himself was his choice. The "therapy" meme again lmao. Paying a bootleg doctor 50 dollars an hour to talk won't change female nature, it won't change the fact women are very selective, prize physical attractiveness, and prefer less agreeable men. Things that have been verified time and again by scientific research, all the while they were fed lies growing up saying the opposite, that …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:49 AM
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