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Chad x All women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 04:45 PM
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That depends on the man. Few people work explicitly "to get sex". Besides, if all you want is sex escorts are an option. The thing is most people can't be business owners. As for setting goals, working 8 to 7 as a wage slave is not goal setting. Nor is climbing the corporate ladder. Most people aren't all that enthusiastic over having to lead a team of people for the glory of shareholders.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 04:41 PM
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I don't see why it shouldn't be. My problem is many of these women then try to snag a beta while pregnant. It's not all that different from going after a hot guy to have a baby with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 03:49 PM
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That's a fair point. Then again there are a lot of single career moms by choice who go to clinics and ask for sperm from tall, blond, blue-eyed donor men (that's pretty much the most requested kind of man).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 03:22 PM
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No that just separates those born rich from those not. Not working your ass off to become rich doesn't make a man a loser. Most men won't be slumdog millionaires anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 02:48 PM
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Better to bring in migrants and bet all our eggs on the automation utopia basket than pair up with a non-Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 02:42 PM
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Um, my fiancé is 5’6”,[...] , but since some of us are barely above 5’2” it isn't difficult to be taller than us. After you break it off with your fiancé because he's boring please tell us how you dated shorter men but your current BF "just happens" to be 6'2".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 02:30 PM
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And is at least 6' and good looking. But that's just builtin nowadays. So, when a woman says "I want a strong responsible man" it should really be read like "I want a strong responsible man, who's at least 6' tall and good looking"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 01:58 PM
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Like Pedoeo and Julliette. Yeah I realize Romeo is only a pedo by modern standards. The only lie in TV is BP romance. Chad romance has existed forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 01:49 PM
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television? the idea of romance predates TV by hundreds of years go peddle your 90s buzzwords elsewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 01:29 PM
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magnetism? lul
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 01:26 PM
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The mommy card, because all the men on PPD are manchild basement dwellers
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 01:13 PM
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If you say that to women they just retort that if we (undesirable men) were able to play the field we'd do it as well. And that's their justification. Imagine going up to a poor person and telling them "if you were rich you'd be corrupt too".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 08:18 AM
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Oh so when you disagree you put your mod hat on, nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 02:05 PM
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No, you're being an asshole who thinks all these weird men are manchildren who refuse to grow up and trivialize their issues. Ultimately you'd prefer it they disappeared under a rock and you didn't have to interact with one of them ever again, even in a professional capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 01:43 PM
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By non-Stacey you mean the landwhale who's fun to ride but not be seen out with, no? Guess what, she fucked Chad too and is only willing to date me because I'm a better option than her looksmatched landwhale male. Pretty much every woman who's a 4+/10 sees herself as a Stacey nowadays. So my options are either going landwhaling or staying ashore. Let's just say I'm seasick.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 07:48 PM
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Sorry, 1.61x 18% of women are sexless while 29% of men are sexless
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 07:37 PM
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almost 30% of US men are incels
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 07:26 PM
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It's not nonsense. Average men today are less desirable than they were 20 years ago. Sexlessness may be on the rise for both men and women but for men it's 1.8x that of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 07:10 PM
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Back then it was just on TV. And IRL it was mostly limited to yuppie crowds and very rich young people. Nowadays any half decent looking woman can enjoy that lifestyle, at least for a short while. Meanwhile the average man is even less desirable (socially, sexually, etc.) than he was 20 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 07:07 PM
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because they're young and know that once they reach a certain age they cant fuck YOUNG women ever again and they missed out on it, forever FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 07:00 PM
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Sounds like she's fucking a real estate salesman behind your back. Future r/deadbedrooms & r/divorceraped poster.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 08:58 AM
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Nu o fa pe proasta pls. :/ Stii foarte bine la ce ma refer mai ales ca esti romanca.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 11:57 AM
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a civil and reasonable discussion On reddit? On PPD? Truth be told almost nothing here is reasonable. Women blame men and men blame women with a few people humblebragging about how well their LTRs & marriages are going along. Funny how women love to argue stupid shit online with sex-starved and intimacy-starved men just so they can prove that they have more to stand on than said men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 10:39 AM
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https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Catholic%20Virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 02:43 PM
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It's not as if being okay with dating a slut will open up the average and below male's dating pool significantly. And yes, the only things people tell you are to man up, lift, change hobbies, earn more money, get a bigger house, flashier car, etc. Basically, flaunt your provider attributes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 02:22 PM
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Is not dating a slut because she's more likely to monkeybranch a good reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 02:03 PM
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Most sluts are trashy ones though. Classy sluts tend to only be sluts for top Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 02:02 PM
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Being a Stud is a lot of work even for genetically blessed men. Being a slut is not that difficult, especially if you're picky and only sleep around with the best of men. Being a hooker is a lot more dangerous than being a slut TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 02:01 PM
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She usually thinks that he'll behave differently with her, and for a while he does. The idea is that violent man = man who can offer her protection. There's also women who think they can tame these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 01:59 PM
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Nobody really wants to tell 30% of men "you're too ugly even for a fat whale". The few people who do it instantly regret it and get roasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 01:56 PM
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Do they take it up the ass to keep their virginity though?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 01:54 PM
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In modern context maybe, but back then the father had the say in choosing the husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 01:53 PM
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Being an aspie was not considered a disorder until fairly recently. Yet most those people live relatively normal lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 01:52 PM
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Oh I didn't look at the username before I answered, of course you'd think it's bullshit. You're attracted to rowdy men who'd be at least fined for their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 01:51 PM
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A preference for or attraction to criminal types is not a disorder. Yes it is. Being attracted to people who commit crimes is a disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 01:49 PM
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Really sucks when shitty people win the genetic lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 01:48 PM
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She didn't get a fashion model contract and the guy was not a billionaire heir.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 01:47 PM
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hybristophilia is literally love of badboys, not just "badboys" who ride loud bikes at night and overturn trashcans. So, yes, he's a handsome badboy, what more do you expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 01:45 PM
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So you're saying that, if a Doctor's daughter marries a Doctor she's marrying up? To me, modern pretensions of marrying up are hairdressers with a degree in gender studies, who are daughters of factory workers and demand a husband who's a Doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 01:43 PM
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But she's not marrying up, she's marrying across. Her standard of living won't increase like that of, say, Melania Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 01:39 PM
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Shit, OK I guess that's another special case hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 01:39 PM
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I mean the parents of the couple to be married were merchants, don't pull my leg here, pls.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 01:30 PM
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Well the man put in his portion of inheritance when the parents died and \ or took the wife in his home if he had an independent one. Poor peasants tended to marry poor peasants, merchants tended to marry merchants, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:48 PM
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Nobody. But women also didn't marry up that often unless: the man was financially independent and the woman was hot. it was a political marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:42 PM
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Marriage was already somewhat institutionalized by the time our first written records existed. Yes women did control reproduction for a few million of years before we discovered agriculture.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:29 PM
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Sexual selection in tribes is brutal but it's more fair. Modern sexual selection is more gentle on the surface but far more unfair in the long run. Tribal sexual selection smashes unfit men's head in with a rock. Modern sexual selection ties unfit men up, gives them 1000 cuts and salts the wounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:14 PM
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No western women demand bone structure, density and height which are impossible to change. They also demand certain personality types that are, while not impossible, very hard to retrain and change. Meanwhile most men who live past the age of 7 in a tribe can be trained to become good farmers, hunters or warriors.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:08 PM
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Nah to me a slut is a woman who: Gives it up on the first 3 dates to the guy without him putting in almost any effort. She has an N count that's as high or higher than half her age plus seven if she's pre-monopausal. Post menopausal women who have lots of sex tend to have it more because they enjoy the man and his company vs mindless attraction to alpha Chad sperm. And dating post menopause you don't have to fear raising someone else's kids for 18+ years.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:05 PM
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Yeah, the standards are higher and ever growing. Sentinelese women also don't have access to dozens of of 6'2"+ Chads and Tyrones willing to drive for 3 hours to get their dicks wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:00 PM
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No I'm not. I'm just saying that if you brought an alpha of the Sentinelese in modern society, other than a few alt. hipster chicks, no woman would want to have sex or a relationship with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 11:57 AM
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Trust me women are reciprocating, just not to men like us. Women give enthusiastic consent, but not to men like us. ETC.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 11:53 AM
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Don't you know? The more imperfections you have the more talents you need to offset them? As an attractive guy knowing how to play an instrument or similar will get you pussy on the tap. As an unattractive guy, you need to be a superstar just to get married to a non-obese (not fit, just not a whale) 4/10 woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 11:52 AM
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because they're unwilling to be amoral, have weak fathers\no father figures, are listening to women etc. And ugly, and\or fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 11:50 AM
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A dude who does that is and will always be a loser, because he's got to perform. Who does what? Play video games? Plenty non-losers play the vidya. Some even earn kickass $$$ from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 11:46 AM
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Plenty spergy guys out there who are not online gamers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 11:45 AM
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Or FIFA, or Madden. I also know a few guys who played FIFA tournaments online for 16 hours straight and had no problems getting laid. One of them even got girls he met online (FB, MySpace and Hi5) to travel to him from other cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 11:43 AM
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Only explanation for uggos existing but rarely being seen outside of workplaces LOL as if ugly people are some kind of spontaneous paranormal apparition. Also go to hypermarkets like Costco and you'll see plenty of ugly people outside of workplaces
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 11:40 AM
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It doesn't. Ugly people (especially UGLY GUYS) don't get invited as often or at all. Ugly people also have fewer friends and less active social lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 11:39 AM
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the uggos classy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 11:35 AM
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As they age women pick both on looks AND the capability to provide resources. In fact, as they age women become pickier to the point their dating pool whittles down to 0. And that's independent of their physical attractiveness declining with age. To attract a woman in her 30s you need a lot more than in her 20s, same goes for 40s and 50s. women leave a bit of leeway on male looks past their 40s but their expectations of the man's resources increase enough to make up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 11:32 AM
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How they already deal with it. Fuck the hot guy and become a state-sponsored single mom (or work multiple jobs). Then try to get a guy to bail her out. Problem is this doesn't work out as well anymore. Porn offers many men an out with women having far better looks and enthusiasm than any single mum can muster for a fat nerd in his 30s. The current sexual marketplace is voluntary. I highly doubt that extroverted, good looking, emotionally unavailable men put guns to women's heads for sex. On the …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 11:01 AM
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You not liking women with abdominal fat doesn't mean they're undesirable in general. For most women 30% body fat does not stop them getting male attention. Men are fucked at 20% body fat. Assuming an average fat/muscle distribution, women are still desirable up to a BMI of 28-30. Men are no longer desirable after a BMI of 24. I also don't live in the west and it's not about cold approaching it's about guys who are easily accepted in social circles and who eventually end up having sex with the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 07:56 AM
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Women are still desirable to most men at much higher body fat % than most men are (again with the exception of husky men who have their own niche). And no, not only gay men find a V taper attractive. Go to a beach festival and see who bags the most pussy. Go on a college campus and see who bags the most pussy. Also skinny men get a lot more action from women than overweight men. Men also have FOMO in terms of LTR. Nobody wants to get married to a fat whale. The men who do are usually undesirable…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 07:38 AM
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But this is not about having an orgy or men being satiated. It's about women who think that since a drunk/high 9/10 guy fucked her once she has a chance at a LTR with said guy. It's about women who ride 100 dicks and then act like prudes when they see some random dude in swimming gear at the pool. It's about thots who can't hold an adult conversation about reproduction even though they're the town Chad bicycle. Men and women are different enough that focusing on liberating sexuality without taki…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 07:32 AM
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The 60/22 numbers are from a GSS study. So your stats are saying that 20% of women refuse to accept their male equivalent and the number of "true undesirables" is just 10%. But the other 20% are still undesirable given their matched value women don't want to be with them. As for the rest how do your stats disprove that a majority of women go with a minority of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 07:21 AM
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At least you admit the majority of men are "meh". But here's the thing, male fashion is pretty monotonous compared to female fashion. For men it's their bodies that give values to the clothes. For men it's their bodies that give value to accessories. Men can't accessorize like women do. For a man, unless he's got a 6 pack and a V taper OR has a full husky physique, he's wasting his money on fancy clothes because they will not make him look better. Most men, unfortunately have rectangle and pear …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 01:01 AM
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I know you guys like 80/20. I wish to find any proof it is a universal rule. Maybe it's not 80/20, is it better if it's 80/30 or 80/40 or 70/40? Women clearly desire only a minority of men. Dunno even why. I would prefer to make a perfect human from gene engineering rather than have an offspring. We don't really have the tech for that yet. And given having a Chad father is no guarantee the kids will come out with superior genetics (yes the probability is higher, but... you also get guys like me)…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:42 AM
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They want a hot babe who's not hypergamic and a stay at home mom. Humans are downright insane. Nah, some of us have given up on dating entirely. I mean if wanting a GF / future wife who's somewhat cute and feminine is downright insane, why even bother dating at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:03 AM
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Most men and women here on reddit are not hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:02 AM
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my favorite is Lost in Translation I think one of my favorite pornos also had that title :P
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:00 AM
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I said nothing about you personally. "Attractive, normal, non autistic, young men" may well have the ability to spin plates, but they are a minority of young men. Most young men have flaws and autism is on the rise, so there are a lot of young men who are either unattractive, weird or autistic, even if not all 3 at the same time. Again what I saw growing up as a teen and young adult tells me that most men do not spin plates and in fact have a pretty hard time even finding a steady GF. That doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:57 PM
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Should be no marriage. No marriage, no cuckoldry. Skipping next two paragraphs. Except our culture is not one of matriarchal tribes, you can't expect a majority of men to keep on contributing to a society that favors a only a minority of them. A lot of men are only working sustenance jobs because, unable to have a partner, they really have no motivation to try any harder. Working hard is actually quite costly for a man. It may not be cuckoldry anymore, but you're banking on men contributing to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:53 PM
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Women have it hard because men won't accept raising kids they didn't make and/or accept that their wife doesn't find them sexually attractive and wants to fuck other men. Newsflash, most men, even weak beta males, do not want to be cucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:29 PM
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There is pressure on women So? Is the final goal the elimination of all pressure? Is the goal for men to be so cucked that it becomes the norm for a man's wife to have children with other men? Why even get in a relationship or marry at that point? What do I get out of it? I have to pay for my wife to fuck other men and raise the resulting kids? Why? At that point adoption is by far the better moral choice (and the more cost effective choice). If I'm not going to have my own kids, might as well g…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:27 PM
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Western society is the most liberated pro-sex pro-female society to ever exist in human history No it's not. Women competing over Chads and offering them pussy for free != sexually liberated. Women in the west are huge prudes when it comes to openly talking about sex. Sexual liberation manifested as women feeling free to offer themselves up, free of shame, to the men they are attracted to, which is the same (20, 30, 40% whatever) minority of men, and then complain that men (that minority of desi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:11 PM
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Why won't Chad commit when I gave him my pussy for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:08 PM
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Most young men are not attractive though... Back in HS a minority of guys rotated girls like pairs of socks and only a few of the guys had GFs. And in college, while most guys had a stable GF, again, it was only a minority of guys who spun plates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 10:52 PM
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No, most men aren't spinning plates. Only a minority. And a other men pay hookers I guess, but that's far from saying they spin plates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 10:07 PM
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Because if it was the latter, maleness would be irrelevant. A lot of times when a man doesn't improve himself in ways women notice, he'll be told he's not improving at all or not being man enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 09:39 PM
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The issue with these men (Nice guys, incels etc.) is their lack of positive identity, partly because of how medias talk about men, partly because how they grew up. The issue with these men is they are not hot enough. Plenty of guys out there who are people pleasers get labeled as thoughtful or gentlemanly based on their looks. Again, as a guy if your looks fall under a threshold, the only thing you can be that's acceptable is a stoic, unbreakable rock. Anything else gets you labeled as creepy or…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 09:38 PM
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Back when I was a kid, most girls started being chased by older guys as soon as they were 12-13. So this is nothing new or surprising. And 15 year olds nowadays dress more provocatively than they did when I was 15 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Fame can really go to your head at that age, and all it takes is a handsome-ish older guy telling her he's representing some brand or another and giving her compliments.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/04/19 09:28 PM
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Fishing in the wrong pool. Well yeah I realized quickly that women on hookup apps are more likely to be promiscuous. In the end I only used Tinder, Bumble, etc. to see how attractive (if at all) women saw me. And I did get a fair few matches (for a man at least), nothing impressive but not 0 nor that many bots.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 09:25 PM
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Not really, only about 13-18% of women are not having sex. Those 20% of women I mentioned, many of them eventually find some guy to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 09:20 PM
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That was sarcasm. Most men don't want to train "loser" genetic stock and those who have "winner" genes will figure it out. 10 years ago I'd have recommended joining the army, but nowadays... yeah...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:23 PM
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This entire mindset that you Need to have lots of shallow sex with many different partners is stupid. How about a healthy amount of sex with a healthy amount of partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:19 PM
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Physical strength is fundamentally irrelevant in the age of machines and automation Viruses don't care about what machines you can invent, besides women are already having sex with machines more often than they do with men. Even Alphas. And these men are the ones fathering most of the children. It's the genetic nerds who are a dying breed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:18 PM
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But so many men consider themselves failures if they dont do it Try not having sex for 15 years then come back here and let's talk again. Ideally men should be happy with who they are and seek sex as a bonus. No sex for the next 15 years...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:16 PM
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That I be a good worker bee and take my lashes if I don't fly fast enough or make enough honey? Best of all do it and not expect anythong on return. You don't deserve and aren't entitled to friends nor intimacy. After all you are just Hoi Polloi and she... she is a PRINCESS UNICORN.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:11 PM
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AF/BB works when BB has a dog in the game, not govt money from taxes. BB no longer exists really. Beta men just get taxed to feed and house other men's kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:10 PM
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So we need a bunch of dumb assess with muscles who can fight, drink and leave OOW babies everywhere who can't do the jobs the economy needs. Who cares though right? Lots of people care, but that's who women reward with sex. Most men are no longer so stupid to raise another man's kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:07 PM
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More like the bottom 45% in a few years. Women are REALLY averse to unattractive guys. They might settle for a jacked 6/10 after 30 but A LOT of men will be seen as undateable going forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:05 PM
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Hes tall and his face isnt that bad but he refuses to try He's not 7/10+ so why should he try? To get a woman who will dump him on the spot for a night with Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:04 PM
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That's already what's happening. TRP just boosts men who were high 6, 7s or 8s. Go to a trp conference, most guys who are not a high 6 at the very least get few hits, mostly from older single mums.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:02 PM
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Beta males, incels and guys from FA.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:01 PM
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Why do this? Why "man up" for the sake of hypergamous entitled women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:00 PM
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You can be older but you need to have status and look like the bad ass dad she never had. And TBH a lot of 16 yos fantasize about fucking 25-27 yo badboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 03:59 PM
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All the while HDDVD is posting on FA and jacking off to vintage porn. BluRay is so blue pilled even his mom refuses to accept his new and improved version.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/04/19 03:55 PM
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In a way being undateable is a blessing. A pretty shitty blessing overall but still.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/04/19 03:35 PM
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Mother daughter threesome. There was a case where a 40 yo mom and her 24 yo daughter offered threesomes.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/04/19 03:21 PM
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No surprise here. Back when my cousin was in her late teens a couple of her 16 & 17 yo friends took up plumbing lessons from a couple of jacked badboys in their late 20s.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/04/19 03:20 PM
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There are enough cucks who swipe right.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/04/19 03:15 PM
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Turns out women don't exactly think straight anymore when they meet a jacked Alpha with washboard abs.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/04/19 03:11 PM
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Chad VHS vs BetaMax
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/04/19 03:09 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 02:43 PM
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I have no particular values oh how others should behave. Just don't get drunk and flip my car or break my windows when you get drunk and your team lost. https://www.livescience.com/11119-men-apes-competing-status.html
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 12:32 PM
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What values underlying what I wrote. Is it comparing rabid sports fans who get into fights (the kind you posted in a picture not long ago as one of the kinds of man you like) to a chimp?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 12:13 PM
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Because any man who isn't bursting with personality at the seams is boring and uninteresting. And if he's got a personality that's mismatched to his looks - he gets labeled as creepy. Go ahead, ask women what they see as interesting in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 12:09 PM
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I have decent features but the way they combine is a bit weird. Being east European doesn't help either. I basically look like a Russian soldier from the 80s. Being a fat computer nerd doesn't help
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 10:59 AM
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Teen & college boys in my neighborhood thought flipping cars over, popping tires, getting drunk and screaming outside was fun. Then they got access to drugs. Me? I felt like I was in a warzone (OK I'm exaggerating here but the rest is true).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 10:26 AM
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I have a pretty symmetrical face and I'm not very attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 10:01 AM
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Yeah but you're still getting Chad's sloppy 15ths. And okey, for causal sex with a condom you might deal with a woman who's been with 30 other men, but not for LTR. If 80% of women went for 20% of men for LTR it wouldn't actually be as bad since only 20% of them would be in a LTR at a given time and the rest of women would have to go for the next top 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 08:23 AM
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No, statistically 22% of the guys are hooking up with 60% of the girls for causal sex. The 80/20 is about desire. The last 20% of women are too skittish to actually go beyond making out with the top 20%. Chads will sometimes call them "frigid" or "teases". But yeah, 80% of women WANT 20% of men but in practice closer to 60% of women engage in casual sex with 20% of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 08:22 AM
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It's like drugs, what do you expect. You think a woman who's tasted multiple Alphas will just go back to dating betas? I mean maybe she will but she'll also taste a bit of Chad on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 08:19 AM
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Who's wrong in this scenario? Nobody. Given the guy never forced the woman, it's not his fault. And it's not his fault the woman is idealistic and thinks that a jawline and washboard abs means he's an "upright" man who will try his best at a relationship with her because she let him park his ship in her port. Sexual freedom is what women wanted because they thought that since pussy was so effective retaining BB it would be just as effective retaining AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 08:18 AM
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In short: alpha fucks, beta bucks
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 08:14 AM
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Sigma is a guy who deludes himself that he's important. IRL women use him as a flesh dildo and distraction while polite society wants nothing to do with him. Sometimes he'll be talented and maybe he'll be remembered as an artist or inventor, but most of the times even a sigma's bastard children won't remember him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 08:13 AM
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alpha fucks, beta bucks is the only thing that matters in the end And with time many alphas become beta bucks too
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 08:12 AM
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Alpha fucks, beta bucks. That is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 08:10 AM
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So you're not, by all metrics single. You're fucking some guy on the side. PLS don't forget to tell your carefully preselected dates that you have a side dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 08:03 AM
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Yeah being a pretty boy is only important in your teens. Once you pass 25 yo being hyper masculine will get you a lot more interest from many ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:59 AM
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Beauty is no longer a surefire sign of good health though. Hasn't been in close to half a century. About the only sign of good health left is to find someone who's reached their 40s or 50s with minimal medical interventions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:58 AM
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Chad does see many types of beauty as equal, but he's just looking for a romp. I've seen plenty of attractive guys dating unattractive women since they're easier to bed and willing to do more for them in bed, plus they will clean and cook for the guy. At least for a while. And when she starts complaining about him being lazy (usually after a few months) he will dump her and go for a new girl. The reason I'm not enthusiastic to bend over backwards for any random woman is I'm more likely to catch …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:54 AM
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I like men who are their authentic selves... teehee
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:58 AM
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Nah, I'm fat, average looking at best, nerdy and mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:53 AM
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Don't have the time or connections to have a side hustle, especially not like that. Hell, in my country I'd probably end up in the gutter with a cap popped in my skull if I approached rappers. And in the end I'm just not what people see as a fun guy. I'm basically only good for computer advice and to complain about life to when all their other friends ditched them. But yeah I made a fake dating profile where I lied about my job (the pics were real though) and got matched by 2x the women where I …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:50 AM
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Well, yeah but... whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:47 AM
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Which values, I never talked about values on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:46 AM
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Anything can be made fun If you are a Chad. If you're the average guy your talents must lie in something that's socially respectable. People here moan that TRP men are stoic. If you're average in looks stoic is the only thing you can be. Whenever you try to crack a joke it's cringy, not because the joke is bad (that happens too) but because you are ugly. Pretty much all behavior is interpreted differently depending on how good a man looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:43 AM
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We are talking about men who hate socializing and interacting with people unless there is some ulterior motive. Because that's what they learned as kids. The only time they stopped being bullied was when Chad or Stacy needed their math homework done. I've been there and done that. Going to a bar is not trashy behavior. Getting shitfaced on ecstasy and sucking off random dudes in the bathroom is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:37 AM
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And just as they regenerate, you mom has to be treated for breast cancer, then you get a call that your estranged dad you haven't seen in 20 years died in some random ass city and you have to go and bury his body. Oh yeah, forgot to add "man up and get over it".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:36 AM
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and just enjoying yourself I can't since I'm fucked in the head :P
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:33 AM
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No, not just sex. What most women see as men having fun is basically different forms of asserting dominance and hierarchy while also releasing dopamine and "steam". Then you have the men who are not even good enough to be included in the competition. This is where many beta and RP men come from. The kid nobody wants to play with and whom is either ignored or bullied often grows up into a young adult who then learns about TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:31 AM
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de-beta-izing themselves to find out who they are you need to be physically and mentally strong for that to happen for a lot of guys, being a "beta male" is all they ever learned to be There is no hidden secret side, kids grow up the way you educate them, and most single moms educate their sons to be the beta man her impregnator was not. The few boys who manage to break out of this conditioning are exceptional in that regard and definitely not something that's easily replicated with "power of wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:28 AM
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its very strange to me how dour and abstemious the man TRP seeks to promote is Many TRP men are former nerds who were shunned from the beginning for being weird, different or just plain ugly (i.e. "the fat kid"). Some other TRP men know that they do poorly when they drink or take drugs and would rather be sober than end up looking like an idiot. The term you're looking for is cerebral not abstemious. guys who were partying with me and joking around, dancing, playing pinball with me and screaming…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:21 AM
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IS CHAAAAD COOOOCK
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:15 AM
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Well, a lot of guys don't do that kind of fun. You want to go booze it up, do drugs and fuck the pool boy? Congrats on being a miserable single mom on state benefits. Or a crazy cat lady. And enjoy looking 10 years older because of all the shit you put in your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:14 AM
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Good luck getting Chad then. The idea was never to settle for someone you're 100% repulsed by. Though in recent years a lot of women have become exactly this. Their self esteem is so inflated they feel like the only man worthy of them is one with the body of Jason Momoa and the brain of Albert Einstein.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:12 AM
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This is one of the few sane comments here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:08 AM
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Not really, historically only a minority of men reproduced and yet most men came out ugly. Hell, look at the few remaining untouched tribes, most of their men would be considered very low tier in our society, looks wise. For a huge portion of history women were not the ones doing the selection and breeding was institutionalized very early in our history.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:06 AM
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every guy got a gal no matter how milquetoast he was What's so bad about being milquetoast? Is it better to have most girls out in clubs doing drugs, downing drinks and sucking off Chad in the bathroom? Has that given us as a species anything? It's great for drug dealers and the Chads getting more action that ever, but long term this is not sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:04 AM
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than competing with each other, The whole point was that Melvin the nerd didn't have to compete with Chad over Agatha the nerd, since Chad was already married to Lilly and had Helen to fuck on the side, both Stacies. Not to mention there were real societal costs for Chad to dip into "easy pussy" (women well below his league). Nowadays nerds have to compete with Chads over low quality, bottom tier women. Heck I see Chads with women I wouldn't date just because to them it's easy pussy and all they…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 03:59 AM
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Bottom tier guys always had problems. Bottom tier guys was never meant to mean 30% of men. And it's only going to increase. What women see as bottom tier men will likely move around between 30% and 45%. Besides you're basically categorizing men as bottom tier based purely on them not being attractive and outgoing which is stupid. Other than men who live in their mom's basements, there are a lot of bottom tier men who live comfortably off the fruits of their own labor. They just happen not to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 03:56 AM
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My parents have basically admitted they arent going to marry me off and I love that freedom to choose. I live in eastern europe an 99.99% of parents are not "marrying off" their daughters :O
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 03:51 AM
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Then the REAL MEN will emerge Another "just man up, bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 03:50 AM
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Without jobs, the men are not attractive partners and we can't all be IT nerds. Take it from a good earner in the IT world that a job doesn't help you that much in being an attractive partner. Looks and charm are a lot more important than being able to provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 03:49 AM
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Men have to ask serious questions and reflect deeply about themselves in order to independently redefine what it means to be masculine for themselves in the future. Man up, bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 03:47 AM
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The "left" doesn't give a shit. Left leaning women love the Chad dick and left leaning men are passive about this at the best of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 03:47 AM
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Yeah and going forward it that pickiness that's going to leave more women single, that ball's already rolling now. There's no real indicator that the trend of the ~past 20 or so years is improving our overall genetic quality as a species. And for a kid to grow up into a healthy, quality adult, that kid will need a relatively stable home. Even with good quality genes I don't see many of these single moms being able to raise kids who will be able to integrate well in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 03:41 AM
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Yeah, it has but it's stupid because: It promotes the objectifying sexist torture device known as high heels :P It severely limits the number of men many women can find, since women have gotten taller be more than men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 06:13 PM
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In the end it's just bitching for attention. All these single women KNOW there are lots of men out there willing to be with them. They are just using it as a distraction, and besides, only GigaChad is worthy of them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 01:16 PM
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Amongst other things. Men who kill themselves often do so when they come to the conclusion that either: There's no way out or He's become completely worthless
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 05:32 AM
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Yeah I wouldn't talk about this sort of stuff in public either. I once told a guy when I was drunk that I don't want to marry a woman who's been with over 30 guys at 32 and he practically stopped talking to me. LOL. His GF also cheated on him (he claims to have caught them) and he's still with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 11:24 PM
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Here kid get in shape, work your ass off, get interesting hobbies and you can marry this rainbow painted war hog.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 11:15 PM
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Because all most women have to do for attention, companionship and cash is to lower her physical looks standards. A man has to be the best just to get settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 11:14 PM
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More misogyny is not good but useful, insofar that it shakes the boat. Yeah, I don't prefer a fat feminist to a normal woman. Just to a PPD "nerd" feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 11:10 PM
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Lots of people, especially here on reddit tell guys on FA and other "self-pity" subs where hetero men (who don't do well with women) gather. I've seen "sex is not that important" on reddit, quite possibly more than anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 08:47 PM
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There was just a study published doing the rounds online. And even 10% is also really big.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 08:45 PM
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Nah TRP is more like a Monte Carlo algorithm.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 04:59 PM
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Why is she exactly the type you want to hit up? Are you so desperate to get your dick wet? I thought sex wasn't that important... Or does that only apply to losers?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 04:57 PM
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Women dating who they like is understandable. I would not date a woman whom I don't like either. The problems are: single moms, women who cry WAATG(L)M, women looking for beta bailouts, etc. You rarely see men cry about not finding a woman to bail them out. Women want every single thing men want in a partner AND MORE.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 04:33 PM
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Look how many women around here say that men are and should stay disposable, for God's sake. And this is a good thing. It's shows men that visit this place that nerdy women see them as disposable. Honestly if dating was mandatory, I'd go with a fat feminist before even considering dating the type of woman found here - that holds purple pill views. At least I'm somewhat attractive to her even if I don't reach Chad levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 04:29 PM
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Let's be real, if you're using this forum in a first world country you are at least in the top 1% of the most privileged people in history. This knowledge will not pay my bills or my food though. It's good to show gratitude for what you have but don't go the other way around. We also have a lot of problems that ancient Greeks did not have.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 04:24 PM
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Okay so all (or most) attractive women are matched with equally attractive men. Good on them. What about everyone else? Over 25% of young (18-29 yo) american men are virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 02:52 PM
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The body image thing is no longer true. Your average obese American woman is far more sexually desirable than the average non-obese American male.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 11:06 AM
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the non-Chads have each other LOL non-Chads hate eachother. Most of my friends in HS were either Chads and a few rare nerds. We hung out a lot, but I was not invited to most their parties and they were adamant about it. Because, yeah, nobody wants to get drunk or smoke with a fat ugly computer nerd. where are the most attractive women (RMV overall) left? Meet Lori Susan Jones. Women like her are basically waiting for a god amongst men. That's where your women are left, waiting for GigaChad. Quit…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 06:00 PM
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Of course not all hot people live the same lives. You have introverted hot people who don't start social groups and instead focus on their career. But most ugly people have a hard time integrating regardless of their temperament. The point isn't that all Chads have harems but that most nonchads have a lot of trouble making friends and dating mostly because of how they look. As far as "like for like" pairing goes that's blatantly false. Most men marry down, way down. If she's not fat and ugly she…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 04:31 PM
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That's reserved only for top tier Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 11:46 AM
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Maybe you would, maybe you won't. Unless you have a bunch of hot FWB in your life you can't know. But those women are often very high maintenance and not worth it for LTR (or even STR).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 10:07 AM
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Just like some men only lust after models and actually have sex with them, especially in their youth. Yeah, like 2-5% of men do that at most. Unless you're talking about men who visit hookers that keep themselves fit, but those aren't supermodels. Meanwhile some 30% of women fuck only Chads in their teens & 20s. And another ~30% will fuck only Chads up to their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 10:05 AM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 06:37 AM
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cough Bullshit cough
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 06:36 AM
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They don't. Men don't want to marry supermodels and pornstars. Their dicks get hard and they fap to them but that's about it. In fact as far as beauty goes most men just want a reasonably attractive and female looking woman. Women OTOH not only lust after Chads but actually have sex with them, especially in their youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 06:35 AM
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I edited the answer. Also I meant that 29% out of 136 is ~39. And the guys reported not having a sexual partner. Ergo some could be men whose GF is not having sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 06:29 AM
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So you think it's all in arbitrarily poor sample choice and they just happened to find 39 incels or cucks randomly? I personally know two guys under 30 who haven't had sex with their GFs in a year. And they caught their GFs cheating. And they didn't break up with their cheating GFs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 05:53 AM
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Alpha widowed. The baggage is emotional. You have to be better than all the guys she's had before. Or, if you're after just a fling I guess you don't have to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 05:48 AM
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Not having sex within the last year does translate into never having sex in your life. No but when correlated with the age range of 18-29 it's highly likely that one year without sex may well become 2, 3, etc. Obviously breaking the law and paying a hooker is an option, but if all men wanted was empty sex with a physically attractive woman that statistic would not exist. And 22% is not that much better either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:36 PM
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No it doesn't mean "virgin". But it's still a big red flag, unless 28% of men are somehow practicing voluntary celibacy. Which I honestly doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:28 PM
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That one time they had sex 10 years ago should last them throughout their lives. Damn entitled incels...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:26 PM
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For starters that study did not say 28% of men between the ages 18-30 are virgins but that 28% did not have sex within the last year. So up to 28% of men are potentially incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:24 PM
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My mom's divorced friends were pretty active in the dating scene for 30 somethings 17 years ago. Even my mom who was more reserved dated some men after she divorced. TBH if I'd left home earlier my mom would've likely found someone. Heck I'm so weird that I drove away men from my mom without even trying to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:07 PM
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So in your view, unless the NCEES has given someone their blessing, that person is just a code monkey and not a professional. Good to know you value a piece of paper so highly. EDIT: Reviewed the NCEES Exam specifications https://ncees.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/SWE-Apr-2013.pdf About 50% of this is obsolete just 5 years in... https://ncees.org/wp-content/uploads/Computer-April-2018.pdf These subjects are covered in most all CS undergrad college degrees - and about 1/5 of it is obsolete.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 10:45 PM
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OK and some women settle for men who have no business becoming anyone's husband... so? Only when those guys are incredibly attractive. About 50% of married men are forced by nature to settle for women who are fat, ugly, boring and have nothing in common with them. At least the woman got alpha genes, those men get omega eggs. How the hell does this work if there would be no men in those groups since the men are supposedly being excluded? Pump and dump. Highly desirable men have 5-10 relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 04:09 PM
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Yet only 33% of divorces are due to the guy being a bad husband. 67% of divorces are because of branch swinging. How does this help your cause?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 04:02 PM
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Being socially inept and older is creepy basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 03:58 PM
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Yeah, I know that in the US most engineers (other than most software engineers) are seen as high status professionals. As a software engineer you basically have to be a Carmack, a Hejlsberg or a Stroustrup to be worth anything. What's your definition of a code monkey BTW? How is a code monkey any different from a spirit level monkey?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 03:56 PM
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No, if I were a young woman I'd work on my body and my status then take full advantage of the privileges granted to young women nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 03:52 PM
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Getting divorce raped is what's wrong with getting divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 03:50 PM
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like a super boring ugly person You strike me as a "valley girl" stereotype. I mean there are plenty of guys who end up settling for women who should not have any business becoming anyone's wife, simply because no women of similar RMV want to be their partners. You don't have to be "super boring" as a man to be forced to date below your value. Women who seek social interaction, even boring ones, will almost always find groups willing to take them in and find partners for them. The same is not tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 03:45 PM
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Equal RMV people pair off If they can find equal RMV partners. You have NO IDEA how many men out there were "settled for" by women who are actually lower RMV than the guys they "settled with". Many, many men give up on finding an equal RMV partner and lower their standards just so they don't remain single forever. Believe me, this isn't about fit, pretty & educated men and women. If most men stuck to their standards, most men would be virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 03:39 PM
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Romania
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 02:55 PM
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They hold the bargaining chips. It's supply and demand. They have something you want and you have to sell yourself to them to get it. If you can't you're just gonna be without. They don't hold jack shit. Chad pumps & dumps them leaving them as single mothers. They're just picky to the point where they prefer ending up as never married spinsters or divorced single moms rather than date a man in their own RMV / SMV. No it is that case. Some women don't anything either...but they have the power to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 02:47 PM
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Yeah... no. Asked a bunch of social workers I met through a family member and they were all married to medics and lawyers... Nurses and teachers... maybe... Most engineers in my country are married to blue collar working women like cashiers, welders, factory workers. And sometimes to other engineers or low level legal workers. But a lot of female engineers here reach 50 being single (often single moms) and sometimes never married.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 02:41 PM
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Engineer here. Dated a nurse who made more than me actually. What's your point? Hey I also know a couple of male engineers who married female doctors. They were both 6'1 - 6'2 tall though. Most male engineers I know are married to blue collar working women and a few to school teachers. Also, you must not be from the US, most university professors dont make that much University professors have social status. Many of them date and marry from among their female assistants; which are often both good…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 02:36 PM
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Well no, lawyers, doctors, university professors and CEOs are men for whom many women will settle for dating without a lot of fuss. Try being an engineer or a mid level manager.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 01:30 PM
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Because a large % of men are settled for. If men only wanted to date & marry equal RMV, most men would still be virgins at 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 01:28 PM
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Advice for men who don't want to get divorce raped. Female version looks like this: Have sex with your husband regularly Don't be an insufferable bitch Don't be a ho Don't come into the marriage with debt
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 01:22 PM
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Given you were together with multiple BFs and are no longer in your 20s, maybe your fantasy is no longer a top 20% man. But for a lot of women, they would absolutely leave their current BF for a top 20% guy and they still fantasize about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 01:19 PM
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most men don't have enough on the table to sleep with most women. And most women have even less than men do, outside of vagina. It's not that men bring less to the table (most women don't bring ANYTHING). The real reason is that women don't really want a man of equal or lesser value, while many men are OK with a woman of equal or lesser value.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 01:13 PM
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Because men and women are not 50/50. Generally speaking, men and women who actively desire sex are around 18-40 (specifically leaving out those < 18). In this age interval, there are fewer women than there are men. Not by a lot; globally there are 105-107 men per 100 women. The second reason is hypergamy as a large portion of women do not want to date their male counterparts, instead they act like temporary GFs or FWB to high value men, or otherwise prefer to remain single.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 01:11 PM
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Do men get used for sex like women are? Yeah, I knew a few guys growing up, who were basically used for hookups by girls. have you ever been used for sex when you wanted a relationship? LOL no, I'm fat and unattractive. do you prefer casual sex , fwb, or relationships? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 01:05 PM
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Yeah I know. Right now, climbing 5 flights of stairs tires me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 12:58 PM
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Chads are allowed to allowed to make social mistakes or be flirty without being seen as creepy or predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 12:57 PM
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Not really because I don't have a lot of free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 03:05 PM
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She'll also break the bank, not just your heart.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/04/19 07:38 AM
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Once she realized he's actually high value and she's replaceable her tone shifted 180.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/04/19 06:25 AM
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That ain't no red pill it's vantablack.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/04/19 06:19 AM
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Doesn't matter... Freaking 6'3". Marriage is officially shit for the average man.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/04/19 06:18 AM
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Just going for an ugly woman won't change a thing. The moment Chad needs a place to park his meat it's over.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/04/19 06:12 AM
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Work out, become interesting, get hobbies. You too can become a cuckold raising 3 other men's kids without ever being told.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/04/19 06:08 AM
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What’s the point of working out if you aren’t fat? Discipline
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 05:17 AM
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No, but a significant number of women are like that. Now, I'm not a billionaire, just earn a lot more than the average here in Eastern Europe. If it weren't for the money women would just tell me they find me boring / a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 05:13 AM
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I've talked to some women online who were clearly only interested in my money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 12:36 AM
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I don’t understand why some guys are so paranoid/defensive about being desired for their resources. Because it basically means you're worthless to her for all other intents and purposes. Your wife / GF literally wishes she were dating / married to some other, hotter, guy, except having your resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 11:00 PM
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I could well go out and buy a new BMW with a large upfront pay and 3 years of credit (tho it would be a waste of money). No, I work 10 hours a day and don't have a driver's licence. I don't have the time to rack up the requisite 40 hours of driving with an instructor.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 03:15 PM
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(Cash, Charge, or Debit?) Cheques please :P which is what feminism wanted all along. So I don't get why they hate MGTOW so much. Modern Feminism didn't want this. It wanted Alpha Fucks / Alpha Bucks who also bow down to them and every straight woman gets her ideal man and he's more educated and rich and also doesn't work more than 4hrs a day and knows just how to push her buttons. Modern Feminism wanted unattractive men to accept their roles as hoi polloi and stay in thew shadows keeping the gea…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 03:09 PM
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Not negligible yet also not all that important. Probably 7-8% at worst. Most guys are really not all that desirable when put next to Quarterback Chad. Even if they don't stick for a LTR with him, most girls want a taster of Chad's Thundercock.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 03:04 PM
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Not really, most guys in my HS lost their virginity at 21 - 22 and had their first GF at 17. While it wasn't quite an 80/20 split, the few guys who did lose it before 18 had had sex with 1/4 of the HS's girls between them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 03:02 PM
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Most people don’t have the balls to do that though since they’re afraid of being rejected for being honest. Being rejected for being honest is better than being used as an ATM.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 02:59 PM
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I had no idea there were other choices available and I felt railroaded into them. Working 10 hrs a day and 2 hrs going to and from home to work will leave you dried up for the weekend. I also had no friends and "downtown" was at least 1 hr of walking away. Public transport stops at 11PM and cabs used to overcharge A LOT before uber appeared, under the pretense of "having to pay a lot given you had the gall to hire someone to chauffeur you".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 02:56 PM
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What things do you consider to be part of mainstream fourth-wave feminism Regarding boys as defective girls and only allowing Chads to break free.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 01:22 PM
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Kurt Cobain So a Chad. What was important was not his pure talent, as much as talent, looks and charm. If you have that magic combination, you're golden. Otherwise, following the leaders is your best bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 01:19 PM
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Yet most TRP opponents focus on the minutia and forget about the universal, general behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 01:16 PM
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Despite what women say they would still fuck the living shit out of Don Draper vs the average man. If you reject TRP, maybe you'll get with one of the few outlier women. If you accept TRP however, while it's not a 100% guarantee (some men are just born unlucky), your chances at finding women who are attracted to you will increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 01:15 PM
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It's not really a choice as much as it's the result of ~10 years of bad (arguably ?) choices and shitty luck in some areas of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 01:09 PM
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I weigh 210-220 lbs depending on various factors. I'd have to lose about 50 lbs to get to normal weight and 70 lbs to stay at normal weight longterm. My issue is eating compulsively, mostly carbs (from bread) and being sedentary.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 10:06 AM
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Oh yeah, absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 09:04 AM
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In your case it sounds like you got the duty part of "be there" but lack all the reasons for it beyond blood. This may well be on me too. I don't really feel a connection to most people and mostly do things out of obligation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 09:00 AM
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In the end we're still turd flinging monkeys... In the event of an apocalyptic event low ranking males will probably be the first to be murdered and looted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 08:58 AM
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Most women have 5 beta orbiters they don't even register as sexual beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 08:56 AM
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For me it's the opposite. Used to be fit until I was 18. Played in the HS soccer team and amateur tennis. I did play a bunch of video games at the time, but I was mostly into C++ programming and geometry algorithms. After I started working (too stupid at math to finish my CS studies, never started another degree), I lost control of my weight due to sendentarism. Honestly I don't even play games that much anymore, maybe two games a year since I just don't have the time. As far as friends go I jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 08:48 AM
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To get to a good LTR you first need a STR that evolves into a LTR. Marketing yourself as good for LTR but not STR is the road to being treated like a sentient ATM.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 08:40 AM
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Some desperate computer geek must have seen her as quirky and accessible to date.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/04/19 07:59 AM
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Same here, only a few guys can't (or don't want to) have a SO. The big issue is I'm not fat in a husky way, instead I'm "pear-shaped" (one of the worst kinds of fat a guy can be)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:35 AM
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Being introduced to the dome early on. Test-tube dome babies :) jk
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:23 AM
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"B-but 100 high value alphas swiped right on meee!"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 12:56 AM
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They're usually decent people but they don't leave themselves open tk conversation of any kind once you get below like 30. most "cold" conversations I start are usually with older men and women (in their 60s or 70s)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 12:54 AM
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more socially adept guys inviting you to social outings to get in your pants != more socially adept
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 12:52 AM
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If you want to be with a woman you need to be considerate towards them attractive FTFY Everything else is just outliers
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 12:50 AM
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IMO those kinda guys can still be found all over corporate america. Still just a single digit percent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 12:46 AM
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“I quickly learned that Seattle men are far different from any other I’ve encountered: shy, timid and seemingly incapable of striking up a conversation, let alone offering to buy a female a drink,” They're fully capable of starting a conversation. Too bad women aren't interested in the same things they can talk about. The trouble is that on top of being nerdy these men are usually not physically attractive. And that's a magic combination for lifelong celibacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 12:42 AM
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No, I don't expect anything. But that doesn't mean I'll take on whatever comes along. Which is why I gave up on dating, it's really the best course of action for now. If things can improve, great. If not, oh well, life goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 12:24 AM
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Nah it will lead to a western version of what's happening in Japan.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 11:54 PM
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No I meant that young women tend to have "the school of life" pat down, especially for their age. They may still be immature but they realize why men are nice to them. And sugar babies aren't really on the same level as prostitutes given most of them are serially monogamous, they're just seen in a negative light, closer to gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 11:49 PM
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Well given I'm not gay yeah, never dated a man. Again, your dating life consists of a string of chads and chadlites who, obviously, had their own issues to solve (as we all do). Yeah I'm cynical because I'm a white, fat and ugly computer geek who's also a bit autistic. Life ain't exactly been full of roses.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 11:44 PM
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Yikes Yikes You're probably not as ugly as you think, though. Doesn't matter if you're not at least a 7/10. I never said I was ugly, I got about 2-3 matches every day on Tinder and even a few on Bumble. But they were mostly technicolor feminists and gold diggers. Besides that, you can be your most polished, but in the eyes of women you're still a turd. Your attitude reminds me of one of my best friends so I'll tell you what I tell him - "I'm sure you'll find someone eventually?" and if you don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 11:42 PM
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Apart from the "no experience" point yeah. Younger women will usually lack in class. But let's be honest, this is a lesson for them that comes at very little cost. Worst case it gets out she was a sugar baby in her youth, she can move to somewhere more forgiving of that. In exchange she gets free lessons, new networking opportunities, traveling to places she couldn't have afforded otherwise, a guy who dotes on her. Heck if he's decent looking she might not even have the year 2 sugarbaby breakdow…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 11:01 PM
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Or they love them because they do Pure wuv... ;_; wah!? Btw, you could try and date independently wealthy women who don't need anything..but they don't like you, do they? Of course not hahaha, no woman in her right mind wants to date a white, fat, ugly computer dork. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 10:55 PM
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Not to mention the ethical implications of doing the same experiment with people. Instead, we get to live a version of Calhoun's experiment on our own dime and time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 10:50 PM
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I'm not particularly red though. I just happen to agree with them on a lot of points. I also agree with feminists on a lot of their points. And from the POV of women things can sometimes seem skewed and in favor of men, when they're actually neutral or even in favor of women. Women tend to ignore more often that there exists a whole world who's far worse off than they are and only really compare themselves to those who are above themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 10:48 PM
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Well then, as stated before, if you're not in the top 30% of men, you have no business being in a relationship unless you're a masochist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 10:44 PM
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Yeah, in some other political climate she'd be riding his dick that very night.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 10:41 PM
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They need to move rapidly from anger into just an understanding that relationships are not worth the time and energy and find other, better pursuits. Yep, if you're not in the top 30% of men, even if you get in a relationship, you won't get anything remotely worth what you put into it. Heck your kid might not even be yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 10:38 PM
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Most of the radfems I see are hurt, mistrustful of men, and angry. And most of the time it's because they chose Chad and idealized him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 10:36 PM
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That's some nice philosophical BS but you can't compare a man's baggage of suffering at the hands of social constructs with a woman's metaphorical suitcase full of cocks. The woman most likely also got something in return for taking those cocks. The man most likely did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 10:31 PM
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I would if I could, it's involuntary After all, I am a fat ugly autistic nerd
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 10:28 PM
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but I haven't worked out a consistent analogy. We're humans not mice. The analogy is at a high level for the most part. You won't find analogies for every rodent behavior or viceversa.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 10:28 PM
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Most are "that beta bucks nonsense" though. And some women just love having a man by the balls, knowing that he can't get any unless he pays a hooker.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 10:27 PM
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Yeah she's still the gatekeeper of sex. The man should technically be experienced enough to realize that she's only looking for dick and not something more serious. And if he's gotten to that point inexperienced, the experience will come in time anyway. TRP is good for a lot of men to teach them something they may well never get to learn IRL and hopefully prepare them for that part of their life when women will be desperate enough to settle down to consider them as an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 10:18 PM
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it's just you changing the subject I get that a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 10:16 PM
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Well it's not "the worst it's ever been" because technology has made a lot of things more affordable to the point where the has been an increase in the standard of life. But yeah, income inequality is at its worst. But income inequality isn't my issue. It's income scaling. By the virtue of how economy works, the guys at the top don't just have more money, they have more choice and more purchasing power. I don't care that Joe Schmoe earns 2000x what I earn. I care about affording a good doctor, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 10:13 PM
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The only satisfaction you get out of a relationship with an older woman is that you can tell her "you're ugly and old too!" and be right about it. Older women nowadays are just as pretentious and entitled as younger women except they also come with extra baggage included.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 10:07 PM
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No like as in they won't even let themselves have the bare minimum. They eat terrible food, wear cheap clothes, drive bad cars, all when they can afford more. Spend, spend, spend, don't you dare save a penny! Keep the economy rolling! What's that, fix your old PC!? Don't be silly, bring it in and we'll give you a $99.99 rebate (you'll forget to mail in) and get you to spend another $399. Wake up. There is no cheap or even reasonably priced good food. I get the best food I can buy and it's still …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 10:05 PM
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As long as we only apply these laws preferentially this won't change. Having the rich elite actually bound by the same laws we are would be a start. The fish starts stinking from the head and most times the serfs will do as they see the nobles do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:56 PM
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Teachers. A lot of this sjw crap is spreading through mostly female, jr high quarterback fucking, teachers.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/03/19 09:54 PM
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You'd be surprised. Fat ugly prostitutes earn more than fat, ugly nerds. Mostly because fat ugly nerds are paying them for sex.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/03/19 09:52 PM
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Frankly I refuse to acknowledge any feminist term that centers their problems around my masculine identity or ideals. What do you expect them to be centered around. Many women were never taught how to create value. So it's no surprise that many of their arguments center around how the value men create should be used.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:48 PM
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TRP mindset will not lead to successful dating if you are ugly. TRP is meant for men who are in the "maybe" area and need to up their game a bit. TRP will not drag a man from the "NO WAY" into the "maybe" zone. But TRP is good even for ugly men as it will allow them not to make stupid decisions should they find success and then come across a gold digger. Example men are the gatekeepers of relationships and women gatekeepers of sex. I can counter this by saying would if you there's a girl with an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:42 PM
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Yeah and I said nor should it have been.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:39 PM
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Women are attracted to men with a lot of "macho credit" and willing and eager to go from a man with less credit to one with more.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:37 PM
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less life experience and worldliness Calling BS on this 99% of younger women in these relationships KNOW that they are trading their youth & looks for money, sophistication and connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:37 PM
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Payday loans also aren't conning anyone. Their fees and interest are publicly available, and by law have to be displayed in a prominent place. It could be considered abuse of basic ways in which humans work but, unfortunately for those people that's not illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:35 PM
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I'm disagreeing with the idea that it should have necessarily been "female empowerment". Ancient societies often did what they had to do just to survive. Because if they didn't their men would end up dead and their women and children would end up pregnant with the babies of the victors or soldiers in the victor's army.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:31 PM
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Thanks for writing it then. It's even better that it's written by a woman. I actually really appreciate and respect your honesty about women's hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:25 PM
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Female empowerment literally means "giving power to women". Not giving them the occasion (which women did sorely lack) to rise to power but outright giving them power they actually had no hand in earning. Hopefully we will live not to regret these decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:23 PM
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no actually, that bf had quite a few beta traits and we had issues surrounding sex later in the relationship due to a hormonal imbalance on his part, which he did eventually fix. i've never loved anyone else the way i loved him. my next bf i had was much more chad-like (lol) by all objective measures. breaking up with him was temporarily difficult, but didn't have the same long-term impact. Hereby confirming the Chad-Brad yoyo effect. Nothing new. i want to date a real person. "I'm looking for s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:19 PM
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It wasn't to "empower" women and it wasn't a form of feminism. Of course it wasn't. In ancient times the only, ultimate, word and rule was the rule of the fist / sword / jungle. He who deals more damage and lives to tell the tale, wins. And modern feminism, especially 3rd wave, is just a sick joke that women have woven themselves into. At the end of the day the only thing it changes is that average and below average men have to walk on even more eggshells, get treated worse and pay more taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:10 PM
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Don't waste your words man, women only care about the top % of men. Every other guy is only useful as long as he's an unseen cog in the machine. If you're not in the top % of men, the only woman who actually loves you is, at best, your mother. And even that's not a guarantee. Develop your skills and do right by yourself. And if you manage to get out of this rut and women start approaching you, don't forget that it's only beacuse you invested a lot of time, money and effort in yourself. They don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:04 PM
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I know you don't give a fuck but stating it like this is just dumb. Have fun blowing Mr Blu though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:02 PM
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A big part of his therapy involves teaching men their desires aren't wrong or different, their feelings are valid, and they deserve more out of life than just the bare minimum. But they can't have it so, ultimately, they have to learn how to deal without it, since "you're not entitled to anything, sweety". What good does it do me to hear that "I deserve more out of life than just the bare minimum" from my therapist when I can't get even the bare minimum in some areas of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:00 PM
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"you only feel this for Chad" How is that wrong? Guess what, men aren't decrying that women only love Chads, they are decrying their own bad luck at not being born a Chad. Being a Chad has so many more upsides, outside of love and romance. Heck, if I was born a Chad, I'd have been a CEO by now. As is, I have to burn myself out working to get the recognition a Chad would get from just showing up on time and doing his job. Even men prefer to work with Chad. Nobody likes being pointed out the fact …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:53 PM
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Well most women are not comfortable leading and they want to be led, by a suave, good looking Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:51 PM
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A lot of people push all the outliers as some sort of show stoppers when they are just outliers. Yeah, if you combine ALL the outliers maybe you can say that TRP are not entirely correct for, say, 15% of people, but those 15% are again made up of ege cases, having very few things in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:50 PM
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The average man thinks sex 5-10 times a year is "normal" and is resigned to not getting intimacy from his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:47 PM
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Why is that so surprising? Because a former escort said it? Can't trust men recounting their own experiences? While most men aren't incels, they usually only get "dead tuna" style sex on a BVA basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:46 PM
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It's all about looks and charm. Women only eye the top 20-30% of men and only really fall for the top 5-10%. If you're a top 5% male and you love your wife and want a monogamous relationship, you've got it made. Otherwise it's a struggle between being treated like a sentient dildo and being treated like sentient furniture.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:42 PM
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The catch is that when these girls finally catch feelings and want more, it’s always for dudes who are taken, out of their leagues, or both. Well, given women only catch feelings for the top ~5-10% of men they meet, how is that surprising?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:40 PM
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Thoughts? Are men more emotional, "cuddling" than women? Some men are, others are not. But, on average, when men love a woman they really love her. If a guy happens to fall for a woman, she can get away with a lot, even if she's fat or ugly. Also on average women love what a man can do for her more than the man himself. There is, obviously, an exception: Chads. Since they are very rare, can get away with a lot because finding another one is very difficult. This reminded me of this comic panel by…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:35 PM
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So, as I've always said modern relationships are not worth the cost. Thanks for finding this piece.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:32 PM
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How much you are willing to do to make them happy Nothing I do can make them "happy". As a male, the only thing you can do to make others "happy" is to take on their burden, but in a way where it doesn't look like you took on their burden. Basically, it doesn't matter what you do if you are not an alpha male in appearance and temperament. My sister is jealous I earn more money than she does, to the point where she changed her career. My mom is happy when, say, I get a raise or a promotion, but h…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:28 PM
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I did, but I don't really love my family. I care for their well being and if they ask for my help I will provide it but that's about it. I call my mom & sister every once in a while to see if they're still OK. My mom's disappointed I'm not yet married / giving her grandchildren, and my sister pretends I don't exist until she needs my help.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:22 PM
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It's not a form of female empowerment By that standard nothing is a for of female empowerment. Why don't women just go and build their own societies where they can be as empowered as they want to. Since living here is apparently, not "empowering" enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:14 PM
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Men LOL, but, as usual, household chores are awful, ergo men are lazy for not also doing the household chores in addition to their day to day jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:12 PM
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a team of scINTPists figures out No because you won't have sex with them even if they do. They might come to that point on their own, but not at your request :P
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:10 PM
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Enjoy living in mud & shit huts. Also most "successful" matriarchies employed elements of patriarchy (e.g.: appointing males in leadership positions, having a male only "army", etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:04 PM
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as well as a desire for their safety and happiness. well I have "a desire for their safety and happiness" for my family as well as some friends. But that's not love, it's just being a decent human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:00 PM
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No, haven't really loved anyone in over a decade. I have respect and appreciation towards a bunch of people, but no, not love.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 07:58 PM
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Let me guess the was among the best looking and suave guys and he just knew how to push your buttons.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 07:56 PM
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It's not a healthy mindset but it's realistically true. The only time many women actually & genuinely love a man is in their teens when they are infatuated with guys in boybands. As soon as they mature women (especially those who choose not to ride the CC) adopt a utilitarian view (in fact CC riders adopt it too, just later), and that utilitarian view is what we call AF/BB. It not that she feels nothing for the man she's with, but what she is feeling is not love, just a form of comfort. And it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 07:49 PM
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“I can’t talk about grabbing her tits at work!!?? Fucking MeToo!” “I can’t make her do sexual stuff to keep her job!? So unfair!” Yeah, no. It's more like you can't talk really about anything personal to women at work (or in their earshot) lest she goes to HR. Women can now use that time they had a private 1:1 meeting with a man at work to claim whatever they want. On a side note, good thing security cameras exist. Believe me, when you're an unattractive man you have to walk on eggshels nowadays…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 07:40 PM
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There’s also lots of good shit that’s come out of feminism. Planned parenthood had huge support from groups within feminism. The MeToo movement, shelters for domestic abuse victims. So we got the trivialization of abortion (don't get me wrong I'm pro choice but this is too big a can of worms to open here) and a movement that made a lot of men weary of approaching or even being friends with women. And shelters for domestic abuse victims predate 3rd wave feminism, heck they even predate feminism i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 02:27 PM
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You ooze bitchthink.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:42 PM
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I mean hey it sucks to realise that you're powerless against the ghosts of your past. But maybe it's time to cut your losses and move on. Do you really think men who are unattractive and unwanted give a fuck about taking "revenge" on women. If anything, MGTOW is the best revenge you can take. And nobody gets physically hurt to boot. At least until govt increases taxes again, your best bet at "revenge" is just not giving those women the time of day. Once they have kids as single moms and they sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:35 PM
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I haven’t seen any great male hate from feminism. They don't need to openly display a great hate. Look at their actions not their words. The great thing about feminism is that it need not sabotage men out in the open when they can just do it quietly from the shadows.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:31 PM
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So you still lust after the 6'2 & taller guys but, since it's impractical you settle for what is practical.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:28 PM
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For apps like tinder to go away... that wouldn't be so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:26 PM
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Tinder's problems are how Tinder makes money. Self Esteem issues are easy money. Obviously. If you're not a good looking man tinder is useless. It's an app made to choose who you want to date based on 5 pics and a 140 character bio.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:25 PM
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self esteem issues It's called being ugly. You'll rarely find attractive people with good social lives having big self esteem issues. We all have insecurities but it's no surprise that insecurities manifest more in unnatractive lonely people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:24 PM
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You'd be surprised by what deep learning can do nowadays. You can guesstimate height by looking at the person in relation to objects around them with a known height.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:18 PM
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I have intetesting pics and a fun life tho lol no need to be salty...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:16 PM
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What the fuck is in the drinking water in 2019? Chemicals that turn frogs gay :P
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:13 PM
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You must be an incel for not forking out 1/2 your earnings for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:12 PM
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We'll have near complete sexual segregation within two generations. Women only aspire to be with the top 20-30% of men anyway. Those who don't will often feel bad about "settling for less".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:09 PM
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LOL good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:08 PM
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Women are constantly working to weed out guys. Single at 45. "Where are all the good men?"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:08 PM
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Man that is a really sick ad. As in, it physically makes me feel sick. Even as a joke, it's in poor taste. Deleting my tinder account was the right thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:07 PM
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Did anyone actually expect Cardi B to be a "better person" than she came out to be? She got her award for her skill and marketability not her personality. And honestly, it's like people live in a haze, don't you realize a lot of rappers, men and women, have this sort of a past? Take that into account the next time you think one of their tracks "speaks to you on a deep, personal level". There's also the marketing machine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:02 PM
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Men are shat on for countless reasons. A man who prefers dating women his age will be mocked as not good enough to go for younger women. Basically there's no winning. Even if you're a Chad you'll have people mocking you behind your back because that's just the way we are as humans. When people complain about a man robbing cradles it's for the most part jealous men and women who either wish they were in that guy's shoes or that guy was dating them instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 12:59 PM
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I doubt he's team "anti woman" and more on team "anti anti male". Just so happens feminism hates male nature mostly because it manifests in men they do not find attractive or they cannot find a use for, hence the toxic part. In feminist acception the large majority of men basically exist to serve the top dog alpha men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 12:54 PM
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Feminist literature basically says that "Patriarchy" as a system indoctrinates both men and women in these so called set roles. But guess what? Even under liberal policy not a lot has changed, women who are raised by liberal parents still lust after good looking, "traditional" men. Part of "patriarchy" is just baked into our genes and part of our nature. We can and should use our rational minds to negate whatever bad effects that we can, for the sake of living civilized, but I don't see feminist…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 12:51 PM
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Heh good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 12:37 PM
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Nah she doesn't. She only loves what she can do for him. Literally for many women this is what keeps them next to men. That they need men to do things for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 12:36 PM
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Want to bet that Dr. Brown would be averse to date a man who shows any signs of weakness herself? It's based on the misguided idea, which is true for the entire animal kingdom, that men have to be strong for the sake of the species. (News flash: Nature is not perfect, nor is it optimal.) Newsflash women do not have sex primarily using their rationality. In fact, from a purely rational point sex is a huge waste of resources with little return for most of humankind. The only way sex is worth it fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 12:33 PM
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the effort of finding a girl is too much It is too much. Social media has made women far more demanding, so if a woman isn't really into you, you're better off doing something else than trying to woo her into going out with you. so they'd rather just stay in their fake digital worlds where they can fool their brains into thinking they're being social because there's voices on the headset. They've given up IRL. Wouldn't you do the same if you were going through what these men went? Think about it…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 12:28 PM
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I can argue that you're taking an effect and turning it into a cause. Sure video games can be engrossing but most guys will make the effort to find someone, it's only after being rejected numerous times that they end up retreating.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 12:08 PM
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Guess what even before internet porn took off I was a skinny unnarractive nerd and STILL couldn't manage to get a date in HS.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:31 PM
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I quit masturbation for 6 months twice and it didn't get me laid because I'm a fat unnarractive nerd. The only thing I got was blue balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:17 PM
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There are lots of men who'd be grateful to get missionary on the regular. The guys women talk about are Chads who demand piledriver anal from women for their own amusement. If the woman is dumb enough to concede (fetishes aside)... That's her own damn fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:16 PM
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Trying to make unnarractive men out as asexual... SMH You not wanting to think about a person's sex drive does not mean they're asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:09 PM
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Don't worry reddit women only want commitment from Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:06 PM
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Not just the OKCupid study. The GSS study says that 22% of men have 60% of all the sex that's had in a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:05 PM
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Socially inept = ugly. Unless a guy is doing major faux pas his behavior will be seen differently depending on how good he looks. Basically an unattractive man has to be mostly stoic and only enjoy media-vetoed hobbies. Otherwise he's not fun and socially inept.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:03 PM
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Nofap doesn't work. Masturbating too often can cause issues but the idea that masturbation once a week is too much is dumb. Women just don't want to be with the average man all that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:59 PM
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Ugly men aren't entitled to sex once a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:56 PM
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Basically what that says is that women do extra housework because they are obsessed with the house being 100% spotless I've seen women for whom a single sheet of paper fallen casually off the table is "a mess".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 07:26 PM
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You go out on a second / third date with a woman, you both get tipsy, you end up in bed. Maybe you don't even have sex with her but fall asleep instantly. She wakes up next to you, realizes you're not quite Brad Pitt, goes to the cops and files charges that you sexually assaulted her after the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 05:41 PM
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Yes, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 05:39 PM
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Yeah, for women 7/10 is average.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 03:42 PM
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Anyway she got a new boyfriend even though she was in her mid 40's and divorced and they're still happy together last I checked. So much thirst. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 03:41 PM
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I was talking about less attractive men, not "average" men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 01:44 PM
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Hey, you're free to advocate living the single life all you want. In most homes the woman controls spending and a large potion of the man's income usually falls under her. Shared responsibility is questionable only if you marry deadbeats and badboys (though some badboys can reform and become excellent fathers). Unfortunately, a lot of women tend to marry deadbeats. My country doesn't have joint filing of taxes either, but the US does. In 2018, married filing separately taxpayers only receive a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 12:05 PM
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AFTER 3-4 years there's a high risk for divorce. DURING years 3 and 4 the risk is moderate. As in a lot of couples divorce in their 4th or 5th year of marriage. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hold-me-tight/201006/can-love-last-lifetime If you think marriage is bad for women, go ahead and advocate for that. Single motherhood is also bad for women and I'd argue it's somewhat worse than marriage. FWIW nuns also live longer on average than single women AND married women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 11:58 AM
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AF/BB made sense when we were living in matriarchal or communal tribes. AF/BB was curtailed successfully enough via education and religion for over 6000 years. Without AF/BB we wouldn't be extinct. The reason AF/BB is coming back again is because women can retroactively retract consent and that tends to drive BB males away. Many women will say that they only accepted having sex out of fear, obligation, etc. and therefore it was sexual harassment or assault. AF is being legally backed now. The co…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 11:38 AM
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bad bot
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 11:32 AM
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Monks must also have a longer life expectancy than single men as married men have a longer life expectancy and higher life satisfaction if married, especially when older. Yeah they do. So unless you’re advocating for men to be monks and not just “stay single” then it’s a moot point. I'm not really advocating pro or against men being monks. Just saying that if a man can't find a good relationship in his 20s or 30s he's likely better off becoming a monk or otherwise living an ascetic lifestyle (i.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 11:32 AM
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Bigger house, more income, shared responsibility for kids, filing taxes jointly, not feeling lonely. Of course many women will complain they married deadbeats because those guys can always get a side chick so they don't really give a fuck. Out of what I've seen in my extended family, the chadlier the husband, the more likely he was to cheat and be lazy. Meanwhile all the women in my family who married moderately attractive men had long, relatively happy and generally prosperous marriages. If a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 11:23 AM
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Yeah loneliness is far worse for men because of testosterone. Post menopause, women also tend to act more like men if they are lonely for a long time. Women also tend to get too attached to pets if they end up as crazy cat ladies. Just look up some of the documentaries. I live by myself 95% of the time and even at my worst the house has never been as cluttered or dirty as that of an average cat lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 11:18 AM
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Life expectancy for monks is longer than that of single women. Ergo living an ascetic lifestyle should be "a pretty good indicator of marriage being a bad deal" for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 11:16 AM
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The logic is that women would (some still do) complain that once married they had to do 100% of the housework. In the US at least marriage has multiple benefits. You can usually afford a larger home, there are 2 incomes, you file joint taxes. Cooking for 2 is not that much more expensive vs cooking for one. Buying family packs in the store comes out cheaper than buying 2x single person packs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 11:12 AM
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Well betas get fleeced the most since they tend to occupy the tax bracket where most of their income is a salary, which tends to be taxed at higher percentages than other kinds of revenue. Many alphas either live "off the grid", have their lifestyle subsidized by women or end up in management positions, having a lot of their income in the form of shares, dividends, profit sharing, etc. In terms of sheer amount of cash alphas pay more, but betas pay a higher percentage of their income. Women pay …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:52 AM
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Yeah we all have personality issues, but not all personality issues are created equal. Just like men and women aren't exactly equal. Women bully each-other differently than men do. Women are more welcome in social groups than men are. Women are railroaded into the fuckzone where as men are railroaded into the "friend"zone (i.e. isolation).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:45 AM
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All men are taxpayers. Betas get fleeced the most but other than bums and CEOs most alpha males pay tax too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 07:06 AM
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Maybe but the cat is out of the bag now. And most women will put out quickly for the right guy. Also, for the modern beta getting a girlfriend is like winning a debt of a million dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 07:03 AM
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Right now, yes, for most intents and purposes, many men and women are, at least concerning relationships, enemies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 06:03 AM
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Other than childbirth how exactly is marriage a bad deal for women? House chores are increasingly split 50-50 in most marriages that last. The myth of the lazy husband is nowadays just that and many men who do choose to get married stick to the "happy wife, happy life" addage. Except those women aren't happy, especially young ones. Because modern individualism no longer proposes the wife and husband be seen as an integral unit vs. two separate people who signed a piece of paper. On top of that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 06:01 AM
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And how is that not true? A lot of cat ladies develop real personality issues, and many of them were fueled by those flings in their youth. AF/BB is not a healthy model for women to live by, especially not in a time when individualism reigns supreme. We don't live in tribes where women can fuck the warriors and hunters and the whole tribe then cares for the children. But they would think it was a much better deal if it involved marrying a hot, doting 19-year-old virgin who gave her husband porn-…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 05:55 AM
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recognize who isn't part of the game and will judge them or get too attached And just incidentally, most of the men not part of "the game" are < 7/10 and 6'2"...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:44 PM
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It's a lot of drama and aggravation when a woman accidentally has sex with a guy who's not part of the game and he becomes judgmental or over-attached actually a reformed "loser". FTFY Trying to sneak into the casual sex game when you're not a part of the culture is very taboo. It's like amusement rides. Must be 6'2" to ride.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:41 PM
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This is about being competent men and competent women. And you're expected to be so as you get older. Women fuck men who aren't very competent in most areas of life but look good and have "charm".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:39 PM
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angelina jolie and Jennifer aniston are Old. That's just it. They had multiple shots and blew them all. They could've married some CEOs or rich businessmen, but they married Chads. And Chads have options. Halle Berry still looks good for her age but she's also on the verge of striking the wall. And all of these actresses have super inflated egos. I'm sure they are flooded in rich, successful men who want to date them (even if in part for the status boost) but they still hold on to the idea that …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:36 PM
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Besides women only experience intense pleasure when they have sex with hot guys. How good looking the man is matters a lot more than his skills in bed as long as he's skilled over a certain threshold. Women would rather fuck a guy who's a 5 in sex skills but an 8 in looks than a guy who's an 8 in sex skills but a 5 in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:30 PM
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Man, I found hardcore porno mags stashed under my cousin's bed when I was 9. I didn't even know what they were until much later.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:28 PM
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if a man has to rely on porn he obviously isnt what girls are after to begin with so is he just supposed to sit and pine for women who are in no way interested? That's how it is for most men with a porn addiction. Men with healthy sex lives might watch porn on occasion but they are far less likely to develop an addiction. And no, he's supposed to "man up" and find a way to be a good BB for a woman after she's done getting pregnant by AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:25 PM
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Women feel pressured to compete with unrealistic porn ideals No they don't. The only women who compete with porn ideals are usually younger, naive and do it to compete for a Chad's attention. Obviously some adults are into BDSM but that's a different thing altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:22 PM
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metoo
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:20 PM
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And the reason a lot of men get addicted to porn is because it's very hard for most men to find a date. By the time a 5/10 man finds a woman willing to date him he's likely suffering the effects of the "porn grip". A lot of less attractive guys will lose their virginity in their mid to late 20s. And they start having a sex drive around the same age Chads do. Except Chads get laid at 16 or 17 (sometimes even younger).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:17 PM
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There are enough simps out there "trying" that it makes no difference that some men choose to stop trying to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:15 PM
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They're also the perfect whetstone to sharpen hypergamy on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:12 PM
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Girls do mature faster, for a while, but unless they have good roles to take them further a lot of behavioral aspects of girls stop maturing around 16-18. That's why educating women on how to navigate life properly is even more important than in the past. I used to think it was BS too, until I saw 40+ yo women swoon over Chads more or less the same as 18 yo girls do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:11 PM
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Yeah it probably won't go away anytime soon but shrugging our shoulders and going "I dunno" isn't a solution either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:08 PM
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Okay, but that was just a hypothetical. I'm not jealous of any actual "James" it just felt more original than "Chad". And yeah, no shit. The average woman has a higher SMV than the average man right up until her mids-late 30s (and for some women even after that).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:06 PM
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Would you like to pay for a single mom's 5 kids? This isn't about eugenics, this is about a growing number of single moms who end up raising broken men. Many of them will either swell up the ranks of criminals or end up being seen as losers nobody wants anything to do with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:03 PM
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Read a few of their posts. So much thirst in there it makes me want to drink water.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 07:42 AM
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Sucks not to be a natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 07:39 AM
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when I chose to go into computers. The place where romance goes to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 07:31 AM
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It's a pretty bad option. Raising a child properly takes a lot of effort and money. Gubmint bucks is not enough. Second of all it's very bad for the child, you do not want to be your mom's emotional tampon and end up being unable to grow up properly because you're too dependent on her for too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 07:27 AM
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On my ass :P I got a pretty wide ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 06:06 AM
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The weakest beta male from 10000 years ago, who could hunt a deer on his own would grind most of our alphas into a fine paste. With his bare hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 06:05 AM
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but otherwise nobody is forcing guys to marry the single moms. Yet. :P ​
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 06:03 AM
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Like the one who has a medical condition and had to settle for moving back in with her parents. Wanna bet she still pines for Chaddington the 3rd M.D. ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 06:01 AM
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They may be fucking hot dudes (it would be surprising if true, because they couldn't even get dates to work functions), but it doesn't keep them from complaining - so they def give a shit. Haven't you heard of Netflix & Chill ? Yeah I knew a couple of those women myself. They looked pretty good and (back then) I'd have even dated a couple of them given the chance TBH. But they were all fucking Chad and complaining he wouldn't take them out on proper dates and that they were "forever alone". Guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:55 AM
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pay to play with cats for an hour because they're so neurotic Pets also cost a lot to maintain. Paying to play with a cat someone else selected for good socialization traits, who also feeds and cleans up after it is a lot easier than raising your own cat. I've had multiple pets in the house growing up (some I wanted some I didn't). Never again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:51 AM
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as an alternative to marrying boring guys Good luck boning "interesting" guys, at least until they stop being interested in you. Also, rhetorically, you do realize society created all those boring guys by shunning them away from the fun & interesting social circles because they were not hot enough, athletic enough or they just didn't come from the "right" families.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:49 AM
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They do act less bitchy/bitter than the women here, so I'll give them that. They have to if they want to have a shot. But God help the poor soul who falls for that trap. As soon as the ring is on her finger she will make up for all those years of pent-up bitchness with the strength of a thousand tsunamis.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:47 AM
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But what's with the hating? "When we were both mid 20s you brushed me away to fuck James, but now that you're 35 and a single mom, need money for James' kids I'm suddenly good enough." Basically low SMV men are sick of simping for women and paying for the kids Chad had with her umpteen years ago. She had her fun years ago and now you get her angry, jaded against men (from her time riding Chads), with a ton of baggage to unpack and some kids in tow. The BB part of the AF/BB strategy no longer wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:41 AM
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Nah, just look at r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen, it sucks ass. I grew up in a single mother household and would not wish it on any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:38 AM
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All because she couldn't get a high value man to commit to her. Probably swatted away tens of orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:38 AM
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A bunch of them are showcased here: r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:35 AM
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yeah but ive seen a lot of guys that could be more discerning or at least work on themselves more in order to be a better catch. These guys are often not hopeless. Yeah they work on themselves and then end up married to 250 lbs women :( If anything, it seems like blue pill guys get hit hardest regardless. So many guys with blooper mentalities end up ignoring a girls sordid past or over looking her glaring issues because they're trying to be idealistic. Seen it happen a lot Well isn't the popular…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:33 AM
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Or you have to be careful and a lot of shit is off limits in the bedroom because GF has PTSD from a rapey boyfriend. That usually means you're too beta for her tastes. While some women develop genuinely deep trauma for many others having an attractive new BF will make them get over their trauma really fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:03 PM
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He's been in over a dozen relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:00 PM
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None. There is almost no point to a modern monogamous relationship other than raising children or building a business.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:58 PM
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No I'd get the test and then divorce her. In my country STD testing is mandated (and free) before the marriage certificate is released. She probably cheated on me, because a lot of women here will think that because she's a cheater her SO must be one too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:55 PM
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AF / BB ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:53 PM
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No I'm just a fat nerd
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 03:09 PM
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Eh, lots of guys would do this even with women looking as they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 02:58 PM
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No form of dating is easy per se. And modern online dating is a lot more diverse than personals ads from the 90s to be totally honest. But the large majority of the profiles are single moms looking for a bailout and guys looking for a quick fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 02:26 PM
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It's kind of hard for guys who don't get any to refuse the scare chances they get. Basically "bottom feeders" (just call them ugly men) either crave companionship and they settle for what they can get, or they don't and live like NEETS except they have day jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 02:09 PM
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This is both sad and true. Being an introvert is a huge blessing when you're a low SMV man since you don't give that much of a fuck that often about social interactions and what you "miss out" on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 02:08 PM
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Yeah but it's better trolling to get her hopes up and drop the ugly bomb on her. :P Oh brother. Attractiveness is more than the face my friend. 100% agree. If people aren't buying what you're selling, take a look inside. 110% agree with you. Personally, I don't want anything out of online dating as I know where I stand in the SMP and couldn't give less of a shit what women say or think about me. Believe me when I say that if a guy is that desperate to beta bux a woman there are still takers, as …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 02:01 PM
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As of 2019, 1 in 5 people below 40 have never married 25% of men and 13% of women in Northwestern Europe are childless As of 2005 1 in 25 men taking a paternity test found out he was not the real father As of 2016 nearly half (48%) of men who take a paternity test find out they are not the real father Count yourself among the lucky women for finding a man you are satisfied with cause it's gonna get a lot worse. That can't be right. Like 90% of people get married. How many of those marriages last…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 01:53 PM
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IDK about that, women seem to be pretty excited to date and be around Chads, especially in their 20s & 30s. Yeah as they age, both men and women care a lot less about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 01:46 PM
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That's just what promiscuous women want men to believe. They want men to see them being just as good of a marriage prospect as a woman who didn't ride the CC, has her shit together and is mostly debt free. I'm sorry, but just as ~70% of men are undesirable for marriage it's similar for women. By 35 most women who are still single will make terrible mothers and awful wives, especially former party girls. And it's not the wall or the age, it's just old, reinforced bad habits that are hard to grow …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 01:43 PM
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Most women are chadsexual
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 01:40 PM
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TIL the only "real men" are the top 5% of the top 5% who are hot, rich and good in bed. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 01:39 PM
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At least you're honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 01:38 PM
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If that weren't true I'd get your point. But it's the tone not the message. Women do come more and harder when they fuck a hot dude. Men also get harder and longer for women who are exactly their type.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 01:37 PM
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Nah, it used to work, way back when. When a beta dude scores the woman will often feel awful about it and try to rationalize it as her settling for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 01:35 PM
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Heck if 51% of men were hot 3rd wave feminism would have never taken off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 01:34 PM
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Yeah, but high quality men don't want to marry women who make a habit of sport fucking guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 01:27 PM
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So you could troll them, being charming and then posting a pic of an unattractive male to call them out on their BS. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 01:26 PM
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The majority of people on OLD ARE "typically low value people, who only get swiped on by low value people and thus use that to form their opinion". High value men who need OLD for LTR are rare enough that they make up an exception AND NOT the rule. Most high value men are already snapped up in their mid-late 20s. As for hookups, yeah the rules break down at that point since a lot of men are willing to slum it up to break a dry spell. But as women put it hooking up is not, by and large, their ult…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 01:24 PM
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So the big difference is you're now mature enough to not risk sport fucking "Mark". But other than that it was your experience as well, you just seem to have reached your epiphany phase earlier than other women. Also LOL, big f*n deal... age brings a lowered libido anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 01:14 PM
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No, idealize a member of the opposite sex or the whole sex and refuse anything lesser than their ideal. Like, putting pussy on the pedestal. Yeah this does happen a lot from what I see. But it doesn't invalidate my argument. A lot of men would go back to the bluepill plantation if the women they "hate" started giving them the time of day. Women here on the other hand, seem to accept that men are flawed in general, but have found a partner that makes them happy anyway. Women don't really care abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 01:11 PM
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a bunch of incel neckbeards Most incels are not neckbeards tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 12:08 PM
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And women will never go on it. Unless videos are mandatory for men and they automatically apply a slimming filter for women. Women fraud their photos because they want a shot at the top 20% men. If they were confident as is, they would not use filters.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 12:07 PM
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Maybe it's changed now, but when I dabbled in it, it was full of losers. Personals ads have always been full of men most women see as losers. Even back in the 90s my mom's single & divorced friends were making fun of foreign men in personals catalogs. It's for men and women who cannot find others via friends or their social circles. Highly desirable men don't need personals ads or apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 12:04 PM
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Photos are only shown in full after you start talking to that person. A week of tinder without photos would be an interesting experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 12:02 PM
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men seem to do that way more than the women Do what? Many men here are trying to placate women by going the "bitch think" route. Sex is absolutely a different thing in how men and women perceive it. And it's why a woman cheating on her partner is traditionally seen as a far bigger cause for alarm than a man cheating on his partner. Most men who cheat do so either because their wife no longer fucks them or she does it too rarely and it's getting bland and they will often trade status or money for…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 12:01 PM
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I had an alt account and trawled around those forums a while. Most of the photos they gush over are not of plain/decent looking women but of models and other exceptionally hot women. But they do make a few interesting points about world class athletes being socially mocked for being ugly. Or successful ugly nerds mocked as undeserving of that success for being ugly nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:57 AM
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No they were absolutely very attracted, but at night as she lay awake leaning on his chest with him snoring she realized "I can't build a home with Mark". As women age their priorities change. She'd still fuck "Mark" for sport if she could get away with it socially, but unless she's got an IQ lower than 89 she will realize a relationship needs more than that. Women actually care a lot about social status and many ex-pornstars have come out saying they want to be respected like women who are nurs…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:53 AM
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Most women wouldn't say that. But many Incels also tend to aim for "Stacies" which is why a lot of them are still single. Some of them also ignore the plain Janes who might be somewhat interested because she's not literally jumping on his dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:49 AM
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Because women (especially young women) often confuse sexual love with sentimental love. Her mind will be on the guy she couldn't get and will shit test & compare the man she is with to her mythical object of desire. Meanwhile even if I wank one to, say, Sasha Grey it doesn't mean I'd actually leave my GF for Sasha Grey nor compare my GF to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:46 AM
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I'm talking about what happens when women realize they can't (for whatever reason) marry the men they are attracted to. A lot of women will realize the tatted up badboy will not make a good husband (or even LTR) after 6 months to a year in a relationship with him. Most of the women who dated the badboys I knew ended up leaving him and marrying a "high beta" when they got into their late 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:41 AM
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Yes, beta bux is only acceptable if the bux are enormous, and it's not a guaranteed thing either. Once the woman knows she can legally get half a beta bux's shit she will ditch his ass, take "half an enormous" and elope with the alpha poolboy. Elon Musk is very much beta and he's been dumped by two women already, soon to be 3. He also only goes for hot women and that will be his undoing financially. If Mush would've married a plain Jane she'd bend over backwards to stick it out with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:38 AM
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Moderate beta bux was killed by welfare and "equal outcome" pressure. Many women now earn enough where, even if she has a kid (or even two - but no more than that) she can make things work comfortably to where sexy times with a beta male is seen as a net negative even if she gets access to an extra $150,000 a year. The only women who would still marry a beta bux are mostly low quality with 3 or more kids (i.e. desperate) and not even beta bux wants to marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:23 AM
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He's a nerd with a lot of money. The simple tone of this shows what people think of men like Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg or (in the past) Bill Gates. These men are seen as unworthy of their place in society and their gains are seen as ill-gotten. If it were up to "the people" they'd take Elon Musk's company & money and give it to Jeremy Meeks forcing Musk to continue working for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:22 AM
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Fleeing from that responsibility, IMO, is beta. No, that's neither alpha not beta. That's an omega trait. Betas don't usually flee from responsibility. Deferring to an alpha, however, is beta trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:19 AM
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As long as it's not illegal to put those ads and experiences on air, yes it is. The CEO of FuckYoungStudsInYourArea.com does not press the gun to the temple of ugly depressed men, nor does she/he pull the trigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:15 AM
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Because muh 3rd wave feminism. Objectification of women is only bad when it's done by men. It's perfectly fine if a woman objectifies and/or takes another woman's choice away because she's a woman and she knows better :P
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:12 AM
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This is also why trp doesn't work for autistic incels TRP doesn't work for autistic incels because most of them don't even try it. They don't even follow the basic rule for TRP: exercise and get fit. If most incels were fit that'd be a thing but they are usually pudgy or saggy if not outright obese. Jumping over that first step won't get you very far with TRP. Maybe you'll "luck out" and get a pity fuck from some party girl you meet in a club but even that's a tall order.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:06 AM
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No they're not. Most women nowadays go through a phase where they at least dream about fucking the hot bad boy with tattoos and a bad temper if they don't actually do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:04 AM
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Nah women want to marry those men. Women want to have sex with wild tempered good looking men so they can lose themselves in the guy. It's only later on that reality strikes and they "go down a notch" in seeking high betas (who are also very rare but that's another thing).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:03 AM
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Maybe if she's horny as fuck she might fuck a hot bum, but that's mostly outliers, even in our modern degeneracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:01 AM
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The idiots in RP keep changing the definition of "alpha" to "men who lead" and "men who they respect". Not cool. RP is about sexual dynamics, not male to male interactions. A lot of this matters in male to male interactions. Men respect a tall ectomorph handsome man who's physically fit a lot more than they respect a short fat ugly man. Men of character learn to look past the surface level, but for the most part, given a choice, people of both sexes will rally around good looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:00 AM
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Alphas are men that lead, have a good frame and are able to rally people around them. You can be an alpha male in many different ways, but if you eliminate the outliers and coincidences, the typical alpha male is going to be: Fit, muscular, have an ectomorph or mesomorph body, tall, a natural leader, confident. The typical beta male is going to be less fit, not very muscular, often an endomorph body, short and lacking confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:57 AM
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B..but it's good that it reduces testosterone :P Makes men less aggressive. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:52 AM
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Five men reported mildly decreased sex drive, and two men described mild erectile dysfunction Soyboy making pill but sexual activity was not decreased, she said Can't really have negative sexual activity. So yes, it didn't decrease from 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:50 AM
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Worse than all those side effects: being more susceptible to fall in love with a beta male. The bane of all womankind and hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:48 AM
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Except that getting her pregnant doesn't feel good to the point where it is worse than it is for women? Tyrone don't give a fuck. See the stats for single moms in the hood. He bust a nut and he off. :))
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:46 AM
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Women have stopped taking BC because they realize it makes them more attracted to beta males and they want alpha seed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:46 AM
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Yes they can. All they need is the right lawyer and to piss out their eyes for a bit. Just claim "domestic violence" under DULUTH and the onus is on the guy to prove otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:44 AM
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DNA test is illegal unless ALSO requested by the mother in many countries. Some countries even force the man to pay child support for any child born to a woman while cohabiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:43 AM
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On people who are responsible and smart enough to care. So no, Darwinism is having the opposite effect. If being irresponsible and promiscuous is inherited, this will ensure that irresponsible, promiscuous people breed more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:41 AM
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Do women use dildos for love? Why would a man buy a robot for love? Then again if they are lifelike enough I'm sure some men will even marry their sexbots at one point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:35 AM
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How much shit do we actually do mostly to impress potential sexual partners Well in my case pretty much nothing I do is to impress partners (at least not consciously), plus I'm single. My main motivation to work is not ending up dead from hypothermia in a cardboard box.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:35 AM
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Well it's clearly a loaded post but yeah a bit of understanding from women wouldn't hurt. OTOH, as a man, it's really hard to talk to women normally when 70% of them avert their gaze and try to shut down the conversation, 10% of them try to flirt with you (for validation - they usually have BFs or husbands) and only 10% are actually willing to hold a normal conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:54 AM
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Normally, you'd be right, a guy who has a weakness cannot expect women to like him for that weakness. But with modern relationship dynamics there's not a lot in it for guys who are beta bucks anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 08:05 PM
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What will be the consequences of all of this? It's pretty simple: more cat ladies / cool wine aunts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 04:49 PM
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finding out a man routinely dated ugly women would mean im ugly too Well a man will date whom he can date. Even Chads will skinny dip in the fat & ugly pool to break a longer dry spell. Probably says more about your frame of mind than your attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 04:46 PM
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Honestly JP says a lot of things that needed saying (but are not PC enough for our modern world), but ,overall, his philosophy barely scratches the surface of things in the big picture. Believe me, if I didn't have some health issues I'd be running laps around the block and spend more time in the gym and on my bike. As is, I have to try and lose weight with more basic exercise and by eating lighter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 04:38 PM
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bitter betas have porn and video games Those can't fulfill the role of a living flesh and blood partner. And "Chadly sex gods" have no reason, religious or otherwise to commit to their harem. Besides it's not like betas who are not bitter have it any better, they're just not bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 09:25 PM
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Look at China with an excess of >5 million single men who literally cannot find a partner. The rich ones are bringing in mail brides from African countries. Also look at some other African countries where restless men with no outlet (because women are either married to rich men with multiple wives or "exported" to other countries) want to burn the country down.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 09:23 PM
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I don't know if you want to hear from guys like me, but if you do, well... my intentions are... uncertain. Then again I have a hard time dating and am a broken man as far as love, dating and romance go. I'm not really expecting anything on this front either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 09:18 PM
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Yeah, TBH while you're still fat buy cheap (just don't buy bottom of the barrel) clothes that fit and try to look half decent. don't overspend. Nothing can hide the gut, believe me, I've tried. As for the shopping part I know. I'm a size M, in shoulders and chest, 5'11. But because of my gut I need to buy XL clothes and it looks pretty ridiculous. The one thing you can get as a fat guy are nice shoes and they'll still fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 09:04 PM
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First a lot of men need to lose weight. Being fat and dressing fancy just makes you look like a chump in a suit, as opposed to a chump in sweats. Being fat and looking respectable only works for a select few men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 08:43 PM
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Grew up in a single mom household, and I turned out fine. Lot's of guys turn out fine, but just as many end up lacking masculinity. Also, I grew up mostly among women, not just in a single mom household. Well you've identified a problem, implied that you want it to change, and decided that taking action is "too dangerous", as if you're jumping off a moving train or something. Taking action by itself is not dangerous, but when you start doing things and start registering on women's radars, you'll…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 08:35 PM
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Growing up in a single mother household has made me realize a bunch of things. I'm fully aware we need some facilities for poor single mothers but we can't afford it for 5 kids (or more) per single mom. Another thing I learned from this is that a single mother will never really care for her new boyfriend/lover/husband unless he proves himself for many years and helps shoulder something he was never really responsible for. There are exceptions - usually when a high value male decides, for whateve…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 08:28 PM
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 05:25 PM
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one dick is pretty much like the other once youv ehad a few, its the FEELS the man provokes, not the dick
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 05:23 PM
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and here where you compare the lower class men working manual labor to the pampered lives of upperclass women whose only real complaint is an unappealing suitor. There you go, that's the spirit, I made the same mistake. If you take what we both said and remove the mistakes you'll get a more accurate picture. would it be worthwhile to include women dying from childbirth, and would that shift the numbers drastically It would be worthwhile, but I don't think it would shift the numbers to the point …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 05:20 PM
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TRP has cryfests over stuff like "no woman will love you like your mother" I'm a man, but ewww. I mean it's technically correct, but why would you want a woman who loves you "like your mother" specifically? and their core issue seems to be their mother raised them to be a nice guy rather than a lothario ladies man, and they wuz lied to Well I can vouch for this. I grew up in a household surrounded by women and it certainly didn't help me. Had very few male friends who thought pretty poorly of me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 05:07 PM
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you said all dicks are the same
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 04:57 PM
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From your picture with the 3 philly men, clearly you didn't. But hey it's not their fault they were born unattractive losers. Hell, even if they become CEOs people will always see them as unattractive losers. Being bad with women is only the natural outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 04:56 PM
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Okay. Explain then why many men will stick with their committed partners even as they had a string of hotter women when they were younger. most men prefer company, intimacy and a steady supply of sex to a smoking hot woman they get to have sex with maybe once a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 04:54 PM
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LOL, all those guys look better than I do. If they worked out and lost the beer belly they'd be 7s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 04:52 PM
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you dont even have to have a job, an education, come from the same social class You just have to have the right genetics, confidence and personality. All 3 being things a guy can hardly (if at all) change.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 04:49 PM
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i dont remember the men i lived with for years a few months after we break up, let alone some guy i fucked in my car after the club. Must be something to be a woman. Some of those guys might still remember you. Maybe you were even their last relationship. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 04:47 PM
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Keep chasing those feels Atlas, the world ain't goin' nowhere. :) And yeah, must've heard that dicks can easily be replaced by dildos hundreds of times now. yet i'm pretty sure you wouldn't be OK with a man who gave you feels but had no dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 04:44 PM
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The fixation over chaste low N-count women is wishful thinking. I could say the same, this is just wishful thinking from high N-count women, who hope to convince high value men that they make just as good wives as chaste low N-count women. And, hey, maybe they might, but the high value men won't bite. It's not like high N-count women don't have their beta satellites (even more than chaste women), but those men don't even register on her sexdar nor her LTRdar.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 04:43 PM
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Nah a guy can have sex with a 9/10 and realize it was pure luck and she's out of his league. Men don't become alpha widowed as easily. For a man to become alpha widowed he'd have to be in a LTR with an amazing woman for a year at the very least. Many women date a hot guy for 2 weeks or a month and they think that's their league from that point onward.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 04:39 PM
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Yet men will be nostalgic for the restaurant in their hometown... up to a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 04:36 PM
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Well men get burnt out less from casual sex, STR and flings. in fact, up to a point, these are a big confidence boost for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 04:35 PM
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So you either stay a virgin until marriage or you might as well have sex with 20 other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 04:34 PM
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I'm sure you can find people who are 30+ who want to just fuck each-other. But that's hardly similar to the idealistic relationships of your 20s. Another thing is many women from 30-40 get what's popularly called "baby rabies" and you could end up having to pay up for the next 18 years for a kid you didn't want to have. You could say people mature, but in truth it's mostly about recognizing that we're all imperfect and managing to compromise. That or, well, becoming jaded and sticking to your gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 04:27 PM
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That "alpha-ness" quickly goes away when you have to take a punch to the chin. You can't call yourself an alpha male if you are not either physically strong or charismatic enough that you can get out of 99% of conflicts unharmed. I also try to make my own rules, right up until I meet a bigger dog. At which point I have two options: 1) I bend my rules to not anger the bigger dog 2) I get bitten by the bigger dog
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 04:22 PM
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If you compare "equality of outcomes" you can say women have it somewhat worse than men. Then again, many women don't want to work in welding, mining, crane operators, bricklayers, PVC carpentry, truck driving, etc. One side of this is that many of these jobs are being automated, so men won't be performing as many of these either. Not saying there aren't still some biases in those areas against women. Then again, women are not exactly flocking in droves to these jobs as to prove men wrong. There…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 04:19 PM
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31 and pretty much sworn off women. My age bracket the last time I tried was 29 - 40. Most good women are already taken at my age. What's left are single mothers, childless divorcees and divorced single mothers. That's just too much baggage to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 02:38 PM
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Being a beta bux was a passable deal... 20 years ago. Nowadays it's just a mark of being an idiot. Men whose only choice is being beta bux or staying single are better off staying single. Getting a surprise "you are not the father" after 18 years or getting a barrage of "f!&% off, you're not my real dad!" is not worth it for BAV starfish sex (if that) and an eternally ungrateful wife. I'm guessing by your measure being a cuckold is also a type of relationship...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 02:28 PM
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What is it with you and your gate, lol. You're just as obsessed about the gate metaphor as iamthesamurai is obsessed about his lesbian breakup rate study.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 02:25 PM
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Women don't get relationships on their terms that's just false. Women don't get relationships on their terms... with highly desirable men with tons of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 02:23 PM
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Nothing. Maybe there could be more women maybe not. Law of probability mostly applies to negative or neutral outcome events. Major positive event outcomes are too guarded for them to happen in modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 02:22 PM
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I won’t fuck a whale just to get my dick wet. Unfortunately for most men, a lot of guys will, some of them even good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 02:18 PM
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Well that's because women ideally want to date & marry from a minority of highly desirable men. They're complaining there are not enough highly desirable men to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 02:16 PM
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Unless the man has many options and is highly desirable, it's practically an axiom. Unless the man wants to end up with a sexual harassment charge, women control most of the dating stack nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 02:15 PM
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Men don't find it significantly easier to find relationships vs. casual sex. Unless you want to compare 2*Ɛ to Ɛ. Men only find it much easier to be beta bux than either relationships or casual sex. As long as you can pull off being affably social, lots of women will indeed let you spend money on them. But that's as far as it will go without raw attraction. You wine her & dine her, MAYBE you get a peck on the cheek.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 02:13 PM
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And if it's so badly mismatched with your qualities you'll perform worse than if your attitude matches your social status, because you'll invite people to put you down a peg. And part of your social status is the way you look. People still make fun of world class athletes and Fortune 500 CEOs because they are not good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 02:06 PM
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For "low value" men women are the gatekeepers of both sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 02:02 PM
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Nah women are less selective on looks when it comes to paying the bills as a single mother. And even then the man has to pull double time for "the privilege" of being beta bux. If she had the choice she would not have even dated her current husband much less married him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 02:01 PM
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What you CAN become is a high value man. Absolutely, and as a high value man, it won't be worth your time to waste it beta buxing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 01:59 PM
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It takes a lot of luck and timing to make it happen as well. Yeah, but that's also true for men. I owe my career to "luck" and hard work in equal measure. I knew a ton of mousey or awkward girls that could not leverage their assets in their favor regardless of how competent they were. What were their assets though, what was the career they tried their hand at and failed? If you're not an extrovert a lot of careers will be closed off to you on that basis alone (regardless of gender). For women a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 01:57 PM
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Woman aren't children, men are not more loyal. Both statements are hyperbole. Women tend to act less mature than men after 16-18 yo or so, yes even 60 year old women. Desirable men (the ones most women pine for) are less loyal because they have no need to be. They can always easily get a new partner. If you want a woman who's not that childish, go for mature women who can stand on their own. If you want loyalty look for a man who hasn't been ruined by casual sex yet. Alas, the twain shall not me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 01:43 PM
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Sure a woman might not experience my 13-25 stretch of dating hell. But they have other bad outcomes, like getting hung up on narcissists, burned out by casual sex, or putting dating on the back burner so long they struggle when they change their minds. How is that a male problem? Women could also make older friends and call on their wisdom for help in choosing a partner. It's well known women get the golden years front loaded, from 16-35, while men get to experience their golden years in the 28-…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 01:36 PM
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women having an easy time dating in their twenties does not equivocate to having an easy time at life! Just wish more here realized that. That's because women have no idea how to use their potential so they can make their lives easier. To a young woman, the world is her oyster. She can (and should) use her youth and mind (not necessarily sex) to open doors and network for when she's older. If she decides to both skip on birth control and agrees to have sex with hot guys who guilt her into not us…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 01:33 PM
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Maybe not a bad person-you're not going around killing babies or robbing grannies--but you're not a good person either, bro. I'm perfectly willing to admit I am not a good person. Most of us are not good people, not in the abstract we're not. We care about our closest family (maybe) and, possibly, even do some acts of kindness for a stranger every now and then, but we're mostly concerned about our own "space". Many women who get self-righteous, coincidentally do so around what TRP calls the "epi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 01:26 PM
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I think at its core, they hold a lot of anger and resentment at the prospect they have to grow-up and become men and that "mom" would not take care of everything for them. I agreed with you until this part. It's not about some kind of a fucked up Oedipus complex, not for most men. And acting "grown up" as a man is not worth it in today's world. Some of the richest, most successful men alive are complete manchildren, worse than most TRPrs. In fact being a sociopath with a self-preservation instin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 01:18 PM
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I wanted a easy, no-drama committed LTR with a cute girl in her teens-early 20's when I was the same age. I didn't want to spin plates. Most modern men don't. Many of us were educated to be respectful, courteous and mindful to women. But that's playing a loser's game and going all in. Being a "good, nice, stable guy"TM will make your mom proud, for sure, but it won't get you a girlfriend, much less a good wife, unless you are blessed with natural good looks. But the girls I liked were more conce…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 01:11 PM
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If I want a smart girl to talk on interesting topics with her I do not pretend to be an average guy with average tastes. Smart girls are still attracted to good looks and she's likely had her fair share of "dumb, but good" cock. If all you want is a discussion partner of a different sex, sure. But if you want a passionate relationship you have to go all in and develop yourself on as many fronts as you can. The SMP is more brutal than it has ever been in recorded history.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 01:07 PM
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Yeah but he's right in the end. For each of these traits (Muscles, Dominance, Masculinity, Height etc.) a man lacks, his chances of finding a woman to be with gets lower. Why do you think there's a tiny no. of men who're very experienced (50+), a few men who've had their fair share (~20) and the large majority of men who basically marry their 1st, 2nd or 3rd GF ? And yeah, there's also a tiny no. of men who are lifelong virgins (or have to pay hookers to get laid) and never actually get in a rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 01:03 PM
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It's called Stacy fooks / Betty cooks. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 12:57 PM
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None, way too much drama. By that point it's best for the couple to split, just pray there are no kids involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 12:55 PM
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Lots of men are like this though. Grew up with nary a strong male presence in his life at best. At worst it was a "who will be my daddy this month" type of thing. 😰 And really, being honest, I am a beta male. Whether by nature, nurture, circumstance or even all 3. And I don't have enough energy or strength to put myself on level with alpha males. It's too dangerous and the payoff is not really worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 12:49 PM
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That's a good start. Congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 12:47 PM
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Most straight men would (if they could) go for an attractive woman who's also considerate toward them. Most straight men can't so they either maximize their RMV to get the most attractive woman they can get (with all of the downsides / i.e. being more or less Beta Bux). Or they go for whichever woman is willing to be in a LTR with them and compromise on one or more aspects about her. Compromise is also part of the human condition. Neither men nor women are perfect. Unfortunately, many millennial…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 12:44 PM
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the feminine-conditioned men who did not know how to be men Yeah, I'm one of these men unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 09:00 AM
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Actually it's because most people don't like having security cameras installed in their homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 07:58 AM
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Hi, welcome to life. :) Even the "good" families have this sort of thing in their past, more so for your ordinary MC/UMC family. A single mothers will rarely have trouble meeting marriage-minded men, they just aren't the men she desires. There are literally SO many low SMV men out there, ready to throw down even for a single mother, that TRP has barely chipped away at their numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 07:55 AM
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I don't see women feeling more safe even if they actually are. In fact I see women worrying over "creepy" male neighbors, coworkers, etc. (incidentally, 99% of the time they are ugly or just older than she is). A lot of women seem to want to live and work in a segregated manner where they are surrounded only by "pleasant" (subjective to their individual judgement) people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 07:52 AM
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I think it’s possible to raise your SMV and RMV, but not significantly. This is true for a lot of guys. If you manage to go slumdog millionaire, then your RMV will increase a lot (and your SMV will also increase a little). What you can do is to work out, get in shape and find time to go to places where women are likely to hang out and try to chat them up. Just take heed that most of the women you meet will be in some form of relationship (even if it's just FWB with a guy). Even if she is single,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 07:47 AM
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Men who get in relationships chiefly because they are stable and reliable are not loved, they are taken for granted. Which is why a lot of why many such relationships end in divorce, often initiated by the woman. The man, in such a relationship, is not a human being or equal partner, he's just the object providing a foundation and resources. And you're not used to hearing furniture speak up when it's uncomfortable, are you? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 06:06 AM
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Very simple answer to this one. Because both men and women, at some level, value the kind of visceral love that you get when both parties are passionate about each-other. This kind of love is mostly found in your teens and early 20s, and mostly among already attractive young people. As we get into our 30s the chances of this happening gets lower and lower, mostly because both sexes are jaded about one-another and their priorities have changed as well (i.e this is where AWALT & WAATGM ultimately …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 05:29 AM
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