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Ugh... You wanna talk in feelings instead of facts without using evidence, Lena? Fine. Men are rewarded for sharing and women are told they are sharing too much. That is because women tend to share more than men. And like everything, the ideal amount is somewhere in the middle. So if a man who is typically private shares a bit then people say "that was brave because you don't share much". When a woman who won't shut up about herself starts talking about yet another thing, people say "maybe you c…
/r/MensRights03/03/16 06:29 PM
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ie. "Women don't lie about this sort of thing. It doesn't happen." Well... yes it does. Exhibit A.
/r/MensRights27/02/16 05:54 AM
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An Australian newspaper article about the incident takes the position that "mansplain" is a perfectly legitimate thing to say: "Gallagher was only too happy to fill him in on the 2014 Macquarie Dictionary word of the year." So not only is the article in favor of the woman in this incidence, the "most up-to-date Australian dictionary" selected "mansplain" as the word of the year. And in 2015, one of the "people's choice" words of the year was "manspread". WTF. Get your shit together Australia... …
/r/MensRights12/02/16 02:56 AM
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To bury content that the mods disagree with...
/r/MensRights12/02/16 02:33 AM
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Exactly. I'm not outraged. But I think it's outrageous that they are such utter hypocrites on this topic. It's the same way that I don't get offended about that survey showing the book industry is 78% female - women read more than men - but I think it's hugely hypocritical that the majority-male video game industry has been under attack just because it's a hobby that men enjoy. The problem is that it's easy to make a point by saying, "I am outraged" and much harder to say, "The people who are ou…
/r/MensRights28/01/16 09:35 PM
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Or the girls' shirt was "Girls are weirdos. Hit them with sticks!" or some other such nonsense.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 05:23 AM
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Exactly. There's a big difference between "boys are stupid but they are cute" or "boys are stupid but they are strong" and "boys are stupid so lets hurt them".
/r/MensRights16/12/15 05:14 AM
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It's interesting to note that children that were starting school in 2003 are now starting college. Is it any surprise that children who grew up with the hostile anti-male climate of 2003 are now acting out the way that they do today at college?
/r/MensRights15/12/15 08:01 PM
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1) The girls product was not popular. 2) The girls product is not at all offensive.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 07:56 PM
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If you're honestly asking, you'll notice that misleading "research" is really common among these types of ideologues. Even academic research is sneaky or manipulative. And you have to dig into the supporting information to actually find how they tricked their subjects. Forgive me for bringing this up, but it's the same reason that gamers dislike Feminist Frequency's "research" about women in gaming. It isn't actually research. It's just a feminist ideologue's opinion with some accompanying foota…
/r/MensRights12/12/15 01:37 AM
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I disagree. I think that they probably went everywhere, and most of the footage looks like the New Zealand experiment. So they were left with the awkward situation of only having footage of catcalling in specific low-income neighborhoods. I don't think that they "targeted" these low-income neighborhoods. I'm willing to bet that they would have left the poorer neighborhoods on the cutting room floor if they had a lot of footage of wealthy people doing catcalls. Because that fits the narrative - t…
/r/MensRights11/12/15 05:45 PM
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Was it that they spent their time targeting poor neighborhoods, or was it that they didn't target any particular location and poor neighborhoods were where most of the cat-calling took place?
/r/MensRights06/12/15 09:21 PM
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Staring at your phone with your legs together. Wouldn't want to get accused of "manspreading". What is it with feminists and public transit?
/r/MensRights04/12/15 08:53 PM
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That's not how it works. The guy that ran it in 11 seconds knew he was in last so he obviously didn't push it. Maybe he was hurt. To qualify for the finals, that guy ran a 9.94 - almost a full second ahead of the female gold medal. The men's qualifying time for the 2012 olympics was 10.18 seconds The fastest woman was 10.75 seconds. The idea that "she would place 7th" doesn't come close to correctly placing her in the event.
/r/MensRights04/12/15 08:25 PM
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You said the woman would place 7th? Why watch female sprinters if the fastest one will be ad 7 place if raced against men? I was saying she wouldn't place 7th... she probably wouldn't qualify for the event at all...
/r/MensRights04/12/15 04:57 PM
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Your illustration about sprinting doesn't come close to how extreme the difference between men's and women's athletics. The world record for women's sprinting is slower than high school boys. Most professional women are worse than good high school boys. I've seen it cited here before that women's Olympic teams train against high school boys teams and usually lose.
/r/MensRights03/12/15 04:58 PM
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I think people are really missing the point here. Robert Downey Jr. is paid a ridiculous salary because his team negotiated an amazing deal when he agreed to be in the first Iron Man. Rather than take money upfront, he agreed to a share of the profits. At the time Iron Man was in production, people thought it was a huge gamble - Iron Man was a B or C level character compared to Spider Man or Wolverine. Robert Downey Jr. gambled and won. He makes so much more than his Avenger co-stars... because …
/r/MensRights07/10/15 05:51 PM
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It's the usual sneaky explanation: "men are less likely to seek help." See... it's the men's fault. If this was a problem for women then the same explanation would be presented in a way where the women were victims. For example, "Women are less likely to be taken seriously" or "Women are less likely to receive help." Maybe I should be a little more tactically blunt... On average, overall, people frankly give less of a shit about men. 70% of suicides are white, middle-aged males... not just males…
/r/MensRights28/07/15 04:26 AM
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I think that this might be a slippery slope fallacy. They lit the white house pink for women's health. They should light the white house blue for men's health. And that's it. They don't have to go any further than that. But the idea that they light the white house for women's health and not for men's sort of directly contradicts the idea that we are living in a "patriarchy" that values men more than women...
/r/MensRights17/07/15 06:24 PM
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Ah. So it's sort of like when the anti-vaxxer crowd starts talking about legitimate historic abuses-of-power by the medical industry to justify present-day anti-vaxxine insanity...
/r/MensRights17/07/15 06:10 PM
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What is infowars? Why is it bad?
/r/MensRights17/07/15 05:59 PM
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Let's not do that. Let's not respond to a good move by the president with anger about another issue. I agree that the wage gap rhetoric is bullshit, but let's just enjoy that a major problem is being addressed in this thread... and get frustrated about gender politicking in another thread.
/r/MensRights15/07/15 06:05 PM
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It's actually a big relief to hear this get addressed. For a while, the story that I kept hearing about prisons was that women were having trouble getting their hygiene products. While that is definitely not acceptable, the idea that tampax was the biggest issue affecting American prisons, while everyone seemed to act like men getting raped in prison was just part of the punishment... I'm glad that this is getting addressed. Hopefully solutions are forthcoming.
/r/MensRights15/07/15 06:03 PM
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That may be. But I think people are aware and actively try to counter most biological biases. Except for our empathy for women. Most people seem to embrace that.
/r/MensRights02/07/15 12:22 AM
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Yeah, but isn't the whole goal of our contemporary morality based on the idea that we are supposed to rise above our baser instincts? You could make the same argument that racism is just biology. But that doesn't excuse racism! How is unbalanced empathy any different?
/r/MensRights02/07/15 12:08 AM
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The fact that there needs to be infographics like this to show people that causes that we care about for women exclusively, affect men too is just adding to the growing pile of evidence that our culture has more empathy for women than it does for men. edit: typo - "too" not "to"
/r/MensRights01/07/15 09:47 PM
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The bill covers posts that are racist, sexist, or show religious intolerance, along with hassling people over disability or sexual orientation. There's a lot to be worried about in that bill, but did they seriously make it illegal to be critical of religion? Will they arrest Richard Dawkins if he visits New Zealand?
/r/MensRights01/07/15 04:11 PM
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The artist is the type of person who would say that we live in a "rape culture" that trivializes rape, right? Well, what trivializes rape more than comparing it to misunderstandings about playing board games or borrowing stuff? The comic is making the opposite point that it is trying to make. It would be rude to turn off a movie 30 minutes in if the person you are watching it with is enjoying it. It would be rude to invite someone over to play cards and then just decide that you don't want to pl…
/r/MensRights01/07/15 04:02 PM
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Definitely. It actually seems like the comic is actually undermining its own point. It's funny because the cartoon artist seems to be one those "rape culture" people who thinks our culture trivializes rape. But what trivializes rape more than comparing it to a misunderstanding when borrowing someone's car or turning off a movie before it's over? I would actually be really annoyed if someone decided they didn't want to finish playing a board game after they had invited me over to learn the rules.…
/r/MensRights01/07/15 03:50 PM
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Say a man is being a dick. Say a woman is being a cunt. Compare reactions.
/r/MensRights25/06/15 05:50 PM
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This is a follow-up to a post that seemed to generate interest on /r/mensrights: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/2ovyhh/can_a_wife_with_dementia_say_yes_to_sex_man/ There are several others on the same topic. As the top comment on that thread says, this case seems to suggest that sex is something that "men do to women". I think it's a sign of the obsession with "consent" that has gone so far beyond necessary or reasonable, that it has become insane. If a man and woman are married and…
/r/MensRights18/05/15 02:58 PM
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Wow this posted as its own post to this subreddit? Very thorough and excellent video.
/r/MensRights27/02/15 11:46 PM
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Gender empathy gap.
/r/MensRights12/02/15 07:24 PM
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Of course they are "man-spreading"... it's just the way that men sit comfortably, with legs slightly apart. "Man-spreading" is just a way for people who hate men to vilify perfectly normal things that men do. Like peeing standing up. The other form of this is in reverse, where they take something sort of bad (eg. being condescending) and rename it so that it seems like it's something only men do (eg. "mansplaining").
/r/MensRights12/02/15 07:21 PM
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As long as they fired shots at everybody (and it was funny), I think it's totally fair that MRAs got hit. SNL portrayed MRAs as being women-hating conservatives trying to ban abortion... an issue that I don't see even tangentially related to men's rights. That was dishonest. But if they want to portray a men's rights rally as a bunch of whiny guys complaining about men's representation in television commercials, I think that is probably a pretty funny example of satire. Honestly, if I was going …
/r/MensRights11/02/15 08:40 PM
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I think that this is an important point. They like to point to the ruling class of men and compare that to the lives of women. It's not like poor conscripts dying in the mud of untreatable infections from spear wounds had particularly great lives.
/r/MensRights06/02/15 05:44 PM
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The link is at the top of the post. Regarding this post on the front page right now: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/2u67sh/men_rate_womens_beauty_on_a_bell_curve_deemed/
/r/MensRights31/01/15 09:50 AM
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That's actually a really good point. Perhaps OKCupid is full of women who are disproportionately picky and men who are actually uglier than the background population. The funny thing is that I keep seeing this OKCupid data popping up and discussed, but we don't see an actual academic study with proper controls etc.
/r/MensRights30/01/15 09:57 PM
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Bad statistics. The author compares the "messaging" lines irrespective of the background distributions. If you just compare the messaging lines, it looks like men put more emphasis on pursuing attractive women than women on attractive men because the male messaging line is skewed towards the "attractive" side and the women's is not. But you have to remember that the background distribution of women's ratings of men. According to the rating distribution, there are almost no attractive men at all,…
/r/MensRights30/01/15 09:51 PM
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One might even argue that she and others seek it out because it is so profitable for them...
/r/MensRights29/01/15 12:41 AM
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There is nothing "reality" about Reality TV. Producers can and do manipulate everything and they can basically edit the show into whatever you want. I could make a reality show that shows that women are all cooperative and work perfectly together and men are all incompetent chauvinistic pigs. I could make a show that convincingly shows the exact opposite with men working in perfect teams and women all fighting and getting nothing done. You can't use reality shows to learn about real people. Thes…
/r/MensRights28/01/15 11:06 PM
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"If an average amount of harassment can be established towards her, how does this compare to the level of harassment that non-female twitter users receive? It's impossible to say that she receives "a lot" of harassment unless we can set a baseline and compare between her and other twitter users." This is the kind of analysis that is missing from her videos too. She isn't interested in doing any sort of data analysis; she wants to show little cherry-picked examples that support her and her ideolo…
/r/MensRights28/01/15 10:54 PM
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The thing that just doesn't add up for me about this is that anyone with even the tiniest bit of sense has to know that typing an all-caps gendered threat at her is only helping her and her cause... So why would anyone who dislikes her politics give her political ammunition by threatening her anonymously on twitter? Well, according to this article, it's mostly misbehaving kids. “I only realized quite recently that the majority of sexually explicit comments or messages I get come from young boys,…
/r/MensRights28/01/15 10:46 PM
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While I don't know if that is a fair counter-example, there is certainly an unfair amount of spin going on in this article. It's analogous to a similarly dishonest survey where the question was "have you ever had sex when you didn't want to" and a "yes" response meant the person had been raped. That seems like cheating to me. I think it's perfectly normal to have sex when you don't want to if you're in a healthy long term relationship. Everyone's libidos aren't in perfect sync and sometimes your…
/r/MensRights25/01/15 05:17 AM
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Someone should send that to Kay... and to every other site that ran the 1 in 3 stat.
/r/MensRights24/01/15 01:12 AM
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Think about this interpretation of the scale. You often see this scale on surveys of this type: "Disagree Strongly" "Disagree" "Undecided" "Agree" "Agree Strongly" On this scale, anything below "50" is a disagree, and the lower the value the more strongly you feel about that. This allows people to rank how they feel about certain things. Hypothetically, if you gave me this scale and asked me to say "steal", I would probably rate it very low... say a "5". But if you put "steal", "assault", and "m…
/r/MensRights23/01/15 08:30 PM
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How about this for an approach: let's only cite valid surveys that are done properly. I agree. But to take it a step further... surely there is a better way to investigate this sort of thing than surveys. Is there no way to test such things experimentally?
/r/MensRights23/01/15 08:24 PM
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12/100 on an arbitrary scale is not the same as "12% chance". There is no indication that a score is a probability.
/r/MensRights23/01/15 10:53 AM
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It definitely could. That's why I sourced the youtuber. I'm hoping that this will get noticed on reddit and a more reputable source will be able to investigate. There have already been articles published in newspapers that are skeptical of the study, but nobody knew about this 10/100 number. Hopefully someone like the author of the following article will eventually hear about the claim and do some investigating... http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/no-we-did-not-just-learn-1-in-3-college-men-woul…
/r/MensRights23/01/15 08:18 AM
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No. I've said this a few places already. The questions were all in a sexual context so that shouldn't be a problem. The actual test itself wasn't released, so I don't know for sure. But the questions should all be in a sexual context.
/r/MensRights23/01/15 08:17 AM
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If your peers share your ideology, then peer-review isn't an obstacle.
/r/MensRights23/01/15 08:16 AM
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It's not fair to lump all women together like this. Women scientists are excellent scientists. Sure, there are fewer women than men in the hard sciences, but the ones who are there because they love it are excellent scientists. The problem here is that gender academics have always coveted the trust we put into scientists for being impartial (see The Science Wars). So there ends up being a big difference in the quality of academic work that gets published in "social" journals, and the general pub…
/r/MensRights23/01/15 02:10 AM
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Posting data is ban-worthy over there? What exactly is the point of that subreddit?
/r/MensRights23/01/15 12:31 AM
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If the author doesn't report/plot their raw data, there is no way to know exactly what it looked like. But if I was going to make a bet, I'd say that the author chose her cutoff post-hoc... meaning that the authors generated the data and then placed to cutoff for "yes" in a position that generated a significant result. And that means that the cutoff would have been 75 instead of 10 if they could draw an interesting conclusion from using 75. My bet is that the respondents all clustered just below…
/r/MensRights22/01/15 11:57 PM
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Social science/gender studies journals need a higher standard for methodological reporting and peer review. See "The Sokal Affair".
/r/MensRights22/01/15 11:52 PM
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Yeah. I've had to explain this a couple times, so I'm sorry if it wasn't clear. The questions are supposed to all be in a sexual context, so I don't know if that misinterpretation could happen. But as far as I can tell the authors didn't actually release the test itself, so it's really hard to know.
/r/MensRights22/01/15 11:49 PM
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Here's the original 1989 paper they based it on... But remember that they (silently) changed the scale from 1-5 to 1-100 and changed the meaning of those values. Google: malamuth 1989 the attraction to sexual aggression scale First hit is the pdf
/r/MensRights22/01/15 11:34 PM
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Hence the few who responded... "Uh. I don't know... Out of 100? Like, 12?"
/r/MensRights22/01/15 11:32 PM
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I don't care about karma or anything like that. I just want to raise awareness of the claim of this youtube investigator. I'm hoping that this gets enough attention that the news sources that claimed (or refuted) the "1 in 3" statistic actually do some real journalism and contact the authors about this. There were a few journalists casting doubt on the study because of things like sample size and biased sampling. But the 10/100 is a "yes" discovery casts even more serious doubt on the study... e…
/r/MensRights22/01/15 11:30 PM
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News article summary: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/a-third-of-male-university-students-say-they-would-rape-a-woman-if-there-no-were-no-consequences-9978052.html Original paper: http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/pdf/10.1089/vio.2014.0022 Time code for the important part of the video, 5minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7h9AWfBTL8&t=5m
/r/MensRights22/01/15 11:17 PM
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New data came out today from a youtube investigator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7h9AWfBTL8 Apparently those 11 didn't say that they had intentions to rape. Those 11 responded to a question by rating it out of 100. Anyone who replied with a value greater than 10 were considered to be saying "yes". To show it visually, the authors were asking to mark likelihood to "force a woman to do something she didn't want if there were no consequences and no one would ever know" and this: Not likely....…
/r/MensRights22/01/15 09:02 PM
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This is an 8 minute video that doesn't get to the point nearly fast enough... or this post needs a better title... Otherwise this should be the top post in this subreddit right now. The "Third of men would rape" statistic was revealed to be bullshit. The important point: The authors reported following a 1989 paper on sexual aggression when designing their study, but they changed one important piece without reporting it. Instead of using a scale from 1-5 labeled "not likely" to "very likely" as i…
/r/MensRights22/01/15 08:48 PM
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You are correct. If fleeing put the other hostages at risk, then fleeing is not an act of bravery. But Nile is saying very clearly that female lives matter more than male lives. That is the problem.
/r/MensRights14/01/15 06:55 AM
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Well, I'm pretty sure that they guy who died was killed while trying to steal the gun from the hostage-taker. If that isn't worthy of a bravery award, I don't know what is...
/r/MensRights14/01/15 06:53 AM
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I think that this is probably the thing that has people's knickers in a twist: "All of these differences make women better metabolically suited for… just about everything related to health and performance except for short, intense bursts of activity that rely on glycolytic capacity." But I would hardly classify this as a "men's rights" issue.
/r/MensRights14/01/15 06:44 AM
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Clearly the CEO being a white man is also a "problem" by the logic of the article... right?
/r/MensRights07/01/15 10:12 PM
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I'm not misinformed about that case. I brought it up precisely for the reason that everyone is outlining. She got a lot of money because of the punitive damages they threw at McDonald's. And you can't say that a woman getting more money for defamation than a man got for wrongful imprisonment is an example of a "men's rights" issue... and that's because you aren't actually highlighting any sexism. It would be sexist if a woman got more money than a man for wrongful imprisonment. It would be sexis…
/r/MensRights30/09/14 02:04 PM
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Yes. Of course it is worse. But that isn't how these cases get evaluated. Just like how you could say that Robert Downey Jr. doesn't deserve to make so much compared to the animators that make the movie possible... or more than a laborer working 10 times "harder"... or more than doctors and scientists and teachers who are doing much more "important" work. You can't just compare these two lawsuits. You can't. It makes us all look like morons. The fact that this post is at 325 points on the subred…
/r/MensRights30/09/14 02:01 PM
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Yes. That was my point. That there are mitigating circumstances in all of these cases. The fact that she sued McDonald's instead of, say, a family owned coffee shop makes a huge difference. If the judge wants to actually punish McDonald's for the way that they handled the case, 50 grand wouldn't even register to them as a punishment.
/r/MensRights30/09/14 01:57 PM
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Well, yes. But also the idea that you cannot compare these sorts of cases fairly. There are economic realities to every one of these situations. Does Robert Downey Jr. objectively "deserve" 50 million dollars for pretending to be Iron Man for a few weeks? No. You could say that it's totally unfair that he gets that while the animators work way longer putting him in the suit for a fraction of the money. Or that janitors work 10 times harder. Or doctors are more important. Or research scientists i…
/r/MensRights30/09/14 01:54 PM
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The problem with "reality TV experiments" like this is that it's incredibly easy to get whatever result you want by simply choosing the people you want from the population. Wanna defy stereotypes and show that Asian people are incredibly athletic and black people are computer geniuses? Pick an island of black computer science majors and asian jocks. Or do the opposite. It's not that hard to pull 8 people out of a population of a few million that will support any idea you want. Men are stronger t…
/r/MensRights29/09/14 03:33 PM
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This is one of those classic apples to oranges comparisons. If you're going to compare those, why not the fact that Robert Downey Jr. makes 50+ million for acting as Iron Man for a few months? Or the woman who got the coffee burn compensation from McDonald's. Honestly, the fact that this is the top post on /r/mensrights is embarrassing.
/r/MensRights29/09/14 03:25 PM
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I think you might have missed the point of the article entirely.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 07:03 PM
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Do you have any data to back that up? Because I actually kinda doubt that.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 07:02 PM
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This is biological. Men remain fertile at all ages. Women are most fertile and have the longest "time left" to have children when they are in their mid-20s. It's biology. It's written in our DNA.
/r/MensRights27/09/14 03:05 PM
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That isn't what slut walks are about. Seriously, how is this the top comment?
/r/MensRights27/09/14 02:35 AM
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Isn't it funny how reddit feminists can talk out of both sides of their mouths on this. Withholding intimacy/sex is a form of sexual violence and yet somehow we are the ones who act like we are "entitled" to sex. You can't have it both ways. You can't say (as it is oft repeated on reddit) that "women are not machines that you put kindness coins into in exchange for sex" and also say that withholding intimacy is a form of sexual violence. You literally cannot hold both of those opinions and not b…
/r/MensRights27/09/14 02:22 AM
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This whole idea of "protected groups" reminds me of how many Asian social justice warriors (eg. the matriarch of #CancelColbert) have decided to label themselves "persons of color" and "women of color" as if they should be entitled to the same social protections that would be offered to black students. On a per-capita basis, by nearly every academic metric you can measure, students of Asian origin are doing as well or better than everybody. But OH! They are still oppressed by big bad white peopl…
/r/MensRights26/09/14 08:47 PM
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Yeah. You would win. But if you had your hands tied behind your back (literally or metaphorically by enforcement biases against men) she could still hurt you. She is still a threat to your health and well-being, not to imagine the emotional damage done if the attack is coming from a loved one... who is being idolized in the media as one of the great female athletes in the world.
/r/MensRights24/09/14 08:58 PM
1

This is the same as when feminists say that nothing women say or do can be considered sexist because of the history of sexism. Or when comedians joke that men have enjoyed "thousands of years" of privilege: "What? 1000s of years of privilege isn't good enough for you?" laughs * Every time I hear that I think, do they really think that human beings are on teams like that? Should German babies be sent to concentration camps? Should British babies be sent to be slaves in India? Should descendents o…
/r/MensRights24/09/14 06:49 PM
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The point is not the whole video. The point is the quote I highlighted. That the tragedies that make him sad are deaths of UN peacekeepers, massive violations of human rights, and the death of women and girls. Like most people, the UN Secretary General (like most people) cares more about the deaths of women and girls than the deaths of men and boys. Feminists lose their shit and get apologies for things like Alice eve in a bra in Star Trek. Imagine if the head of the UN said that the deaths of m…
/r/MensRights12/09/14 09:25 PM
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Well, unless we keep highlighting the double standard, things won't change. Isn't that the whole point of this subreddit?
/r/MensRights12/09/14 09:22 PM
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Wow. Did she fly too close to the sun? Sarkeesian had a good scam going - make a video every few months and live off of speaking fees and kickstarter money. Use bullshit arguments that your fans will gobble anyways, and hide behind "misogyny" in order to make legitimate criticism seem like your cause is actually just. I mean, even making some random fake twitter accounts in order to make "false flag" attacks on your position seems like it's harmless enough and it's too hard to disprove that you'…
/r/MensRights12/09/14 06:52 PM
1

Poe's law. But, whether you think that this particular poster is satire, the "don't teach me to be safe, teach men not to rape" concept is very much a reality in feminist groups. And since it is reality among feminist groups, the idea that a rape survivor charity would put out a satirical poster meant to undermine the feminist outlook on rape prevention seems very unlikely to me.
/r/MensRights12/09/14 06:45 PM
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That is true. But hopefully Scottish politician are sufficiently embarrassed by this campaign that they decide that they will either use their influence to change leadership at the offending organization, or direct their money elsewhere to a more worthy charity, one that focuses on actually helping people in need.
/r/MensRights12/09/14 06:43 PM
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I hope that this quote is brought up in 2016 and she is forced to address it.
/r/MensRights12/09/14 06:37 PM
2

For those on mobile, start the video at 50 seconds to see the quote.
/r/MensRights12/09/14 03:57 PM
1

Yes. Sorry. I misunderstood the internet definition of "brigading". Thanks for clarifying.
/r/MensRights12/09/14 03:22 PM
1

I totally agree with you about this. "Brigading" leads to shadowbans. However, what about people who are interested in both sides of an issue and subscribe to "competing" subreddits? For example, it's not outrageous to think that some people subscribe to /r/mensrights, /r/feminism, and /r/egalitarianism
/r/MensRights12/09/14 06:31 AM
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I think that Esquire is probably the highest profile media source that is 100% behind the idea of men's rights. I posted it before, but Esquire's editor in chief wrote pro-men's rights letter a entitled "Are We Not Men" to introduce an issue focusing on the importance of fathers. The final paragraph is a clincher: "Advocating for boys and men, however, is simply not done. The idea that men have untold societal advantages is so firmly ingrained in the American psyche that to suggest otherwise is …
/r/MensRights12/09/14 06:27 AM
2

Be pragmatic. You're being too literal. Don't be obtuse.
/r/MensRights12/09/14 06:22 AM
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don't be a dick. Whenever we're talking about gender issues, I always like to highlight little things like this. Nobody cares if you call a man a "dick" if he's being a "dick". Call a woman a "cunt", or any other word for female anatomy on the other hand... I'm just glad that men don't overreact about this sort of thing.
/r/MensRights12/09/14 06:19 AM
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I think that content is driven by the marketplace and that the prevalence and popularity of actors and genres is a reflection of the market. I actually don't know the numbers on film off the top of my head, but if you look at scripted and reality TV, women are a huge majority; if you look at high-budget console videogames then men are a majority. Since you originally brought up the idea that I was being anti-capitalist, I hope that sets things straight. I think that amazon's "women's literature"…
/r/MensRights09/09/14 12:28 AM
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Not quite. My problem is that there are people who are very critical of entertainment aimed at men and want it to be more female friendly; but those people also are very vocal any time someone tries to take entertainment focused on women and tries to make it more male friendly. My point is the hypocrisy of the situation. People pretend they are about "equality" but what they really want is everything to cater to their own preferences.
/r/MensRights08/09/14 09:22 PM
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The point I was making was that Disney saw the opportunity to take a story primarily about a princess and making it about a team - a boy and a girl - and feminists were outraged by it. There was definitely a backlash when Disney changed the name of the film from Rapunzel to Tangled, and it was because they felt that it took away from the female storyline. And these are the same types of people who say that the gaming community needs to have more stories about women and fewer "tropes" in the stor…
/r/MensRights08/09/14 09:04 PM
1

What? No. The opposite. Did you not understand what I wrote? Can you explain what aspect seems anti-capitalist so I can clarify?
/r/MensRights08/09/14 08:53 PM
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How long have we had to endure "girl power" entertainment for girls? "Who run the world? Girls!" by Beyonce. All that crap. The entertainment that used to be aimed at boys now has to appeal to everyone. The entertainment that is aimed at girls, is just for girls because girls deserve their own "safe spaces". Just like golf courses, and gyms, and fitness classes, and businesses, and (former) gentleman's clubs. Videogames aimed at a male audience are a bad thing, but nobody gives a shit that Amazo…
/r/MensRights08/09/14 05:08 PM
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Since one's current earnings are related to one's earning history, older female workers may still feel an impact from past discrimination even if it does not exist today. Like how there are people still working today who were born in the 1940s, and educated in the 1950s and 1960s? I bet that 6% goes away pretty fast when you start ignoring near-retirement workers and look at people just out of college entering the workforce.
/r/MensRights02/09/14 02:59 AM
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Can I just add that it matters that there are currently people of working age who started school in 1955... People who started college in the 1960s... These people are still part of the workforce. Is that taken into account when we evaluate the wage gap? That people at the end of their careers are indicators of the social and educational standards of a half-century ago? If the gap has gone from 36 cents to 6 cents, it sounds like we just need to wait for the last of that generation to retire. Wh…
/r/MensRights02/09/14 02:56 AM
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I'm pretty sure the narrative I remember was that feminists were calling for Blurred Lines to be banned because it was a "date rape song" and everyone around here was saying that they should just get over themselves.
/r/MensRights01/09/14 08:14 PM
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Black men definitely have it the worst for these sorts of injustices.
/r/MensRights30/08/14 10:27 PM
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Say that from 9:30 to 11:00 you identify as a woman most weekdays.
/r/MensRights30/08/14 08:11 PM
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This sort of thing always frustrates. The justification that I always hear for women's-only hours is that many women feel self-conscious and wouldn't want to work out while feeling judged by men. And I keep shouting - yeah, well some men feel that way too! We keep hearing about men living shorter lifespans and dying of heart disease... wouldn't it be prudent to have gyms that cater to their needs? Sure, the 25 year-old body builders love having women around, but what about the 50 year-old marrie…
/r/MensRights30/08/14 01:27 PM
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Put in a request for male-only hours. If they refuse to give equal times, then complain to a student advocate.
/r/MensRights30/08/14 01:19 PM
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Good for you Canada, for ensuring that all people deserve to be equal, but some people deserve extra equality...
/r/MensRights30/08/14 01:16 PM
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It's all about the context of the outrage. I'm not upset about the joke at all. But every time I see something like this I want to hold it up to all those outrage-trigger-happy "feminist" bloggers and tweeters and say, "where is your righteous fury now?" I don't give a shit about the joke. I care about the hypocrisy. And it's important to have stuff like this in our back pocket for every time that feminists come out and talk about how we live in a casual "culture of violence against women" or a …
/r/MensRights29/08/14 04:37 PM
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Well... the feminists running the "feminist" sections of major news outlets. And (often) the feminists running women's studies departments who spawned the aforementioned feminists with blogs and columns in major news outlets.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 05:06 AM
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Honestly, I see it as a good thing. Every time someone tells you that feminism is being misrepresented, you can point to all these feminists saying that empowering women with tools to keep themselves safe is somehow a bad thing. Just keep sharing these links, everyone. People will slowly catch on.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 05:03 AM
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According to them, basically if you exist and you are a man then you are promoting rape culture.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 05:01 AM
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All those feminists complaining about it could have made it themselves years ago if they had gone into science themselves instead of going into women's studies in order to complain that not enough women go into science...
/r/MensRights29/08/14 05:00 AM
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Sorry dude. It is a word. It's just a convenient shorthand for "discrimination on the basis of height".
/r/MensRights28/08/14 11:20 PM
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It means that short men earn a higher percentage of household.
/r/MensRights28/08/14 09:46 PM
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I was trying to allude to this, yes. I would love to see this plotted out.
/r/MensRights28/08/14 09:45 PM
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Your headline is incorrect. Short men earn, on average, less money. The article states that they earn a larger proportion of the household income, not that they earn more money outright. This means that a small man is working harder both inside and outside the home. Heightism is definitely a source of income disparity. And the last 3% gap unaccounted for when comparing men's and women's incomes (after controlling for job, education, hours worked etc) could very well be heightism rather than sexi…
/r/MensRights28/08/14 08:16 PM
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Hilarious hypocrisy. “Not being objectified” is just one of the many advantages of being male. So the reason that it's okay to objectify men is because men have the freedom to no be objectified. The logic of that sentence eats itself. We will stop Dong Watch once there’s a female president, zero wage gap, and Swedish-level paid parental leave; once tampons, birth control, and abortions are all available free and on-demand. Okay, well Clinton in 2016 seems likely. The wage gap doesn't exist excep…
/r/MensRights25/08/14 08:29 PM
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I have a better idea... Let's stop fucking losing our minds over gender roles in fucking Disney movies. And video games. And movies. And TV. And books. Let's just watch the stuff that we like to watch and let other people watch what they like to watch and let the free market decide how much of each media to make.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 04:25 AM
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That, and her (admittedly genius) move to take all of the usual rude troll comments that everyone receives online and, rather than just delete them like a normal person, broadcast them as loudly as possible. It created the illusion that she was being unfairly persecuted... but, since trolls feed on attention, it made more trolls come out to send messages. It was a feedback loop: more trolls -> more attention -> more funding -> more trolls...
/r/MensRights19/08/14 02:11 PM
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I just realized that I submitted this to the wrong subreddit. Sorry. It's already been here. I meant to submit it to /r/videos to get a wider audience. My mistake. I'm going to delete it and try again...
/r/MensRights17/08/14 06:08 PM
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I agree. A punch is not a proportional response to a slap. I think that a misdemeanor charge is very fair in this case. We look dumb if we start campaigning about the unfairness of this case...
/r/MensRights17/08/14 04:09 PM
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Let's keep the daytime TV court shows off the front page...
/r/MensRights17/08/14 04:02 PM
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Oh shit... sorry. I misread it. I think we all would have been very skeptical that a woman would jump out of a car in order to incriminate her boyfriend for seemingly no reason.
/r/MensRights17/08/14 03:59 PM
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More like "raising awareness". (Though full-disclosure... the crying men on the poster is a bit of a melodramatic touch... However...) Feminism claims that it's all about equality for everyone whenever people ask. But if you look at how they act, they are incredibly vocal about the tiniest slights against women, but are conspicuously silent about men's issues. And now popular feminists have "merch" where they mock men openly. Tell me what feminists would say if had /r/mensrights started selling …
/r/MensRights17/08/14 03:51 PM
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Yeah, but you read /r/mensrights, so you're used to taking a man's side. The average person hears a story about a man doing something terrible to a woman and they immediately take her side without question.
/r/MensRights17/08/14 01:51 PM
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You're welcome.
/r/MensRights17/08/14 03:38 AM
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You're quite welcome.
/r/MensRights17/08/14 03:38 AM
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By drawing attentions to it. We have overcome our base biology in many ways. We can overcome this too if we are conscious of it and put the effort into rectifying it. That's why /r/mensrights exists. And that's why it's important to keep sharing these ideas with people.
/r/MensRights17/08/14 03:38 AM
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I considered calling it an "empathy gap" but that was already something else. Does putting the word "gender" in front make it sufficiently different for it to stick? I was really hoping we could avoid a childish-sounding term that would never take off in the mainstream like "pussy pass".
/r/MensRights17/08/14 03:35 AM
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but women are precious commodity. This is what I often think when I talk to people about "men as default", which comes up often in gender debates. The argument is that a "stick figure" is seen as a "stick man" unless other defining characteristics are applied to it, like a skirt or a bow. So men are "default" and women are not... and the feminist argument is that this is a bad thing for women... But is it necessarily? Couldn't you just as easily view it as women being a special privileged group?…
/r/MensRights17/08/14 02:59 AM
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Haha. It's the thought that counts, I guess.
/r/MensRights17/08/14 02:46 AM
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Exactly. It's not like the whole world was a fucking democracy before women's suffrage. People like to point out that the people on top were men, but they forget that plenty of the bottom was men as well... That same fallacy occurs today - you hear more from the gender-studies crowd about male CEOs and male politicians than male homeless and male workplace deaths.
/r/MensRights17/08/14 02:44 AM
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8 minutes into this video there is a clip that shows the woman jump out of the car on her own and then try to blame the man for pushing her out. Absolutely insane. Can you imagine if he didn't turn on his phone to record her jumping out of the car? Who would have believed that the woman just jumped out of the car for no reason!? And yet the judge was still arrested and charged with domestic violence despite so much evidence showing the woman was a self-destructive insane liar!
/r/MensRights16/08/14 06:40 PM
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As I read /r/mensrights more and more, it is becoming increasingly clear to me that the primary female privilege is empathy. If a woman or girl is hurt, people care. If women are kidnapped, there is international media attention. If women are killed, their deaths are highlighted. If there is a conflict between a man and a woman, then people will jump in to defend the woman. If women are under-represented in an area, people want to take action to make things "equal". If a man is hurt, it's funny.…
/r/MensRights16/08/14 06:05 PM
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And this is why I come to the comments... It's only sexist if you could show that there was an "equal" breast cancer treatment that was being covered.
/r/MensRights15/08/14 05:08 PM
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I don't think that Vice was endorsing that woman. Let's not make ourselves look stupid here...
/r/MensRights15/08/14 06:15 AM
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Okay...well... in fairness to that one, that shirtless scene was actually important to the plot. The Thor and Guardians scenes were both just there to get the characters' shirts off. The Cap one shows that the serum worked and that he's a superhero now. But yes. It's not like movies don't "objectify" men. It's just the the concept of "objectification" is mostly bullshit. People like to look at attractive people...
/r/MensRights14/08/14 02:28 PM
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Okay. I'd just like to officially say for the record that I can't get on board with feminism-style language policing. Any time you see me point out an "anti-male" gendered slur it is to highlight the hypocrisy of those who will freak the fuck out at hearing the word "cunt" but would happily call someone a "dick" in a normal conversation. The problem is hypocrisy. I couldn't give less of a shit if someone said I was being a dick... especially if I was being a dick. Let's not turn into feminists a…
/r/MensRights14/08/14 12:14 AM
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Because feminists want "equal rights for women" not "equal rights"... it's right on /r/feminism's front page. Women are doing worse? "EQUAL RIGHTS! NOW!" Men doing worse? casually whistle and saunter past
/r/MensRights13/08/14 10:38 PM
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It's too bad that "empathy gap" already means something else, because there is definitely a huge gap in the empathy that people feel towards women instead of men. I think that almost all of the problems that the men's rights movement identifies can be traced back to the idea that people have little empathy for men, especially those who need help. Male disposability is, after all, basically just a total lack of empathy for men to the point where we don't really care if they are killed.
/r/MensRights13/08/14 10:33 PM
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Remember the feminist outrage over this scene of Alice Eve in Star Trek? And how they forced the filmmakers to apologize? Where is the outrage over this scene in Guardians of the Galaxy? It's just as gratuitous... and just as "fan-service"... just this time it's a man who is shirtless for no reason other than to appeal to the female fanbase. Hypocrites all of them. People like to see attractive people. Shut the fuck up about it.
/r/MensRights13/08/14 10:20 PM
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I'm all for eliminating gender-specific insults though. Then did you have a problem with the hilarious line - "He got my dick message?" Because "dick" is a gendered insult too. Maybe we can all just calm our tits about gendered insults and realize that getting pissy about calling someone a cock makes you seem like a twat.
/r/MensRights13/08/14 10:11 PM
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Clearly women have better verbal but not written better than most men. Clearly.
/r/MensRights12/08/14 08:27 PM
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Clearly women have better verbal but not written better than most men.
/r/MensRights12/08/14 08:26 PM
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The number of male victims is trivial compared to the number of female victims Can I get an official source on this one way or the other. Both sides claim the opposite uses dubious statistics. So which is it? Are male victims 40% of domestic violence victims (like we see all the time on this sub) or are they trivial in number? Who is full of shit?
/r/MensRights12/08/14 04:32 PM
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Who holds the reigns of feminism? Talk-show personalities who say feminism is only about equality... or the academics who are actually producing the feminist literature and teaching feminism in universities?
/r/MensRights12/08/14 04:31 AM
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Yeah... it's August. How many students are on campus in August? Remember that huge fucking rally at the same school when school was actually in session? And it's hardly "extremists" when they're all just women's studies students. They think what they think because of what they learn in class...
/r/MensRights12/08/14 02:22 AM
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You are intentionally missing the point.
/r/MensRights10/08/14 05:48 PM
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Let's not give this article views, please.
/r/MensRights10/08/14 04:28 PM
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Remember how much shit got fired at Romney for his "weird, creepy" sons? You'd catch a lot of shit for making fun of women like that...
/r/MensRights07/08/14 08:09 PM
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This is what they are describing. Same average. Same median. But the male curve is symmetrically wider. So there are more men at the top and more men at the bottom...
/r/MensRights07/08/14 08:06 PM
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Bill Burr joked about this. "Women are constantly patting themselves on the back are and no one corrects them because they want to fuck them".
/r/MensRights07/08/14 08:02 PM
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Ah, the old /r/mensrights overreaction... 90% of the comments are civil discussions of hypocrisy and sexism, and then one mildly upvoted comment has to ruin it by saying something stupid like "Fuck this bitch".
/r/MensRights07/08/14 08:01 PM
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I'm only mad at the hypocrisy, not the joke itself.
/r/MensRights07/08/14 07:58 PM
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I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. People take this as fact because they may not have looked into it that much, and the "glass ceiling" has been so hammered into our culture. I mean, the president talks about it all the time... most people just trust the mainstream. This was just him saying, "There is more to the 'wage gap' than people think. Maybe it's heightism rather than sexism." Studies I've seen of the wage gap with controls bring the gap within a few percent... maybe heightism is the …
/r/MensRights05/08/14 03:34 PM
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Yeah, but if you want to look at the stats, you're much more likely to get dating responses as a 6'6" man than as a 5'2" man.
/r/MensRights05/08/14 03:29 PM
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Who are the ones reading the magazines that ridicule celebrities for their appearance? "Who wore it better?" "Guess who has crows feet?" "Look at ______ without makeup!" "Look at this actor who gained weight! Look how fat he is now!" I would be shocked if straight men make up even 5% of the readership of that kind of garbage.
/r/MensRights05/08/14 03:26 PM
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If the requirement is that you are supposed to "keep yourself fit" then they should define "fit" in a way that accounts for all differences - height, weight, body type, genetic factors, family history, etc. If the requirement is based on doing the job well - running down and subduing criminals for cops, or carrying bodies out of a burning building for firemen - then there shouldn't be any mitigating factors. Criminals don't slow down or fight less ferociously if the arresting officer is a woman.…
/r/MensRights05/08/14 03:17 PM
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The rule makes no sense... you can't brigade your own subreddit. But it's a bot... it just searches for certain patterns in the text.
/r/MensRights05/08/14 03:12 PM
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That's because he was disbarred and discredited for waging a ridiculous and baseless crusade against games and everybody decided that they were going to stop taking him seriously because he was so full of shit. That's what they should do with Feminist Frequency... instead they gave her a fucking award.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 09:16 PM
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Independent vloggers and redditors criticize her. Mainstream gaming sources are afraid to call her out for being a game-hating manipulator.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 05:03 PM
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No. But I'm not a widely broadcast public persona. I'm wasn't paid $160,000 on kickstarter. I don't have a youtube channel. But I bet Jack Thompson got the same number of threats...
/r/MensRights01/08/14 05:01 PM
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Well, if she ever finishes all her videos, one of her last topics is about "common defenses of sexism in games". So, ostensibly, that will be the video wherein she addresses criticism. But if we look at the pace she's at right now, 2.5 topics addressed and 2 full years after the expected delivery date, I'm not sure whether she's ever going to get around to all of them. I mean, we're looking at about a topic a year, and she has 12 to get through. Though, if you look at the other topics she has le…
/r/MensRights31/07/14 08:50 PM
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The difference is that gaming is welcoming Sarkeesian with open arms. Sarkeesian can just play the "misogyny card" and silence pretty much any criticism. Most people are afraid to call her out on her bullshit.
/r/MensRights31/07/14 08:28 PM
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No. That is not the point. Everyone gets threats. Who hasn't got an "I'm going to kick your ass" PM? I get them all the time. People call you a dick or an asshole all the time online. It's not a big deal. The fact that Sarkeesian got threats is not new or unique. It's not evidence of misogyny.
/r/MensRights31/07/14 08:26 PM
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Yes. Exactly. You get it. If you receive an anonymous threat like, "I'll kill you" or "Say that to my face and I'll kick your ass," then that is essentially nothing... except when you're a woman and you can use it to raise $160,000 for a few days work and then springboard that into a talk circuit and an (inevitable) book deal. Thompson got a threat and took legal action. If you feel threatened, you take legal action. But Sarkeesian and co. don't want to discourage threats. They want them to keep…
/r/MensRights31/07/14 08:24 PM
2

Cool. /u/girlwriteswhat is awesome.
/r/MensRights31/07/14 07:04 PM
1

I didn't even notice. That's hilarious...
/r/MensRights31/07/14 07:03 PM
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Are terms such as 'bitch', 'cunt', 'whore', 'slut' etc not common in modern gaming vernacular? Maybe. What about "dick" or "cock"? Those get used all the time and nobody seems to mind that... Also, just because players swear, doesn't mean that you can blame game-makers. I've literally never heard the word "cunt" in a game; doesn't mean it hasn't happened, but it's pretty goddamn rare. There's all this talk about video games having no social effects on individuals, but wouldn't you take issue wit…
/r/MensRights31/07/14 07:02 PM
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Good find. I copied the comment here so we could discuss it: Given everything here, I am even more saddened at the fact that ANYONE in gaming takes her seriously, let alone hands her awards for her "work". I'm not a gamer, so I wasn't aware of the Glenn Beck and Jack Thompson things, and how completely different the response from the community seems to be to those guys vs Anita. What an incredible fraud she is, and it's disheartening to see people buying into it. I'm not surprised at all, howeve…
/r/MensRights31/07/14 06:10 PM
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Wow. I didn't think that it was possible to be such a hypocrite in such a short amount of time. It's stuff like this that leads me to believe that the perception that women have it worse in the media is entirely based on confirmation bias - sexist insults against women register as sexist, but sexist insults against men go by without detection. The guy literally condemns "gun nuts" for making sexist insults about women, and then says that all gun owners have tiny dicks in the same sentence. Ridic…
/r/MensRights31/07/14 05:23 PM
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Oh, /u/63524... you are just too much...
/r/MensRights31/07/14 02:49 PM
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Well... it was included partially for people who couldn't watch the video for whatever reason. But 4 paragraphs is a lot shorter than 10 minutes, so I could potentially see it as a time saver - especially since people tend to really like Thunderf00t's videos around reddit, except they hate that he manages to make a point in 10 minutes that he could have made in 3.
/r/MensRights31/07/14 05:24 AM
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Man. I just keep forgetting this rule applies to links within /r/mensrights...
/r/MensRights31/07/14 04:54 AM
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The following original /r/mensrights thread included some interesting discussion of a feminist-spun controversy surrounding Richard Dawkins and tweets about rape... but were really about logic's importance in emotionally-charged subjects. I thought it was worth submitting Dawkins' extended explanation and discussion of the topic. While not directly a "men's rights" issue, it tackles both the battle between science and feminism, and counters the tactic of using emotional outrage to avoid logical …
/r/MensRights31/07/14 04:54 AM
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The following original /r/mensrights thread included some interesting discussion of a feminist-spun controversy surrounding Richard Dawkins and tweets about rape... but were really about logic's importance in emotionally-charged subjects. I thought it was worth submitting Dawkins' extended explanation and discussion of the topic. While not directly a "men's rights" issue, it tackles both the battle between science and feminism, and counters the tactic of using emotional outrage to avoid logical …
/r/MensRights31/07/14 04:50 AM
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Here is Dawkin's official response to the matter. I think that you will see that he answers your question about why he chose to emotionally charge his logical illustration. What he says matches what I said quite well. So regarding your accusation that I am "making shit up", I think you will find the following article sufficient evidence that I am not. https://richarddawkins.net/2014/07/are-there-emotional-no-go-areas-where-logic-dare-not-show-its-face/
/r/MensRights31/07/14 04:44 AM
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For those who would like a TL;DR version since the video is 10 mins long, Thunderf00t highlights many similarities between Anita Sarkeesian's feminist crusade against games and Jack Thompson's morality-policing of games from a decade ago. Thompson believed that violent games influenced people to become violent and blamed school shootings on games; this is similar to how Sarkeesian believes that video games cause misogyny. For attacking games, Thompson became hated by the gaming community and was…
/r/MensRights31/07/14 03:42 AM
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This is too perfect. Too too too perfect. I mean, I saw the ad as being a typical ass-kissing, /r/hailcorporate, manipulative campaign to flatter their way into cereal sales. I was going to downvote the original ad for being so blatantly manipulative until I saw someone comment, "Well at least it's nice to see some positive masculinity in the media." But women are offended by it! Offended! They are offended by the idea that a man was portrayed in a positive light. And here's the thing - it wasn'…
/r/MensRights30/07/14 08:51 PM
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Oh man... even the humorless man-hater doesn't want to be labeled a feminist. That's how bad people view "feminism" as a label. That woman essentially said that she is offended by the idea that men are showed in a positive light; and that she's offended that the husband told funny jokes; but she doesn't want to be called a feminist because she doesn't come across as humorless and judgmental... hilarious.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 08:39 PM
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"Feminism is about equality for women and the advancement of women's issues," one member of the panel said. "I think that every woman, if she understood what it actually means... they would all me a feminist." I think that perfectly sums up why #WomenAgainstFeminism exists. Because even when you sugarcoat it, and spin it, and wrap it up into a nice little attractive soundbite, it still is about advancing women and not about equality. Feminism wants to be the only voice on social issues, and yet …
/r/MensRights30/07/14 08:34 PM
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Consider this - first degree murder is worse than second degree murder. If you had a family member who was murdered and the murder was considered second degree murder, am I diminishing the awfulness of the murder by reserving a different worse class of murder for a different type of murder? Your overly emotional rant is perfectly illustrating the reason for Dawkins' tweets in the first place. You deserve some kind of reward for both entirely missing the point, but also demonstrating it.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 05:58 PM
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No. Realistically, do you think things will go better if you "win the fight" against her first?
/r/MensRights30/07/14 03:27 PM
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Why emotionally charge something that doesn't need to be emotionally charged other than to emotionally charge someone? There is a very good reason that he used emotionally-charged language for his illustration: the purpose of his illustration was to show that logic does not break down in emotionally charged situations. When using variables like X or Y, nobody has trouble processing the logic. But when things become emotionally charged, people react with emotions and forget to use logic... sort o…
/r/MensRights30/07/14 03:11 PM
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No. If someone hits someone else, they should be punished by the law. Just because someone hits you does not give you the right to just hit them back to make things "fair". If you feel threatened or unsafe and need to defend yourself, then that is morally and legally acceptable. But just because someone hit you doesn't mean that you're just allowed to unload on them because "they started it". Everything would be better if people hit each other less.
/r/MensRights29/07/14 10:32 PM
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Try again. It's back up.
/r/MensRights29/07/14 09:59 PM
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People like you are the whole reason that Dawkins started these "emotionally charged logic" tweets in the first place. Because of people with over-active imaginations and a total lack of logic and common sense. I like to eat pizza. "HOW DO WE KNOW THAT YOU DON'T LIKE TO EAT DEAD BABIES ON PIZZA? HOW DO WE KNOW?" That's you. That's what you sound like.
/r/MensRights29/07/14 08:33 PM
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No no no. I never implied that anyone should be allowed to hit anyone... You just implied that the idea that "men are always stronger than women 100% of the time" was delusional, when in fact the reality of our collective biology approaches that.
/r/MensRights29/07/14 08:22 PM
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God fucking damnit. First of all, they were tweets, so it's not like there's a lot of room for "elaboration". Second, the point of the tweets (according to the article) was an exercise in logic, and the use of "rape" in the statements was used for no reason other than to adequately load the logical argument with emotion. That was the whole point. That, just because the subject matter is emotionally charged, logic doesn't suddenly vanish. The fact that everyone is freaking out about how offensive…
/r/MensRights29/07/14 08:17 PM
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Regardless of whether the woman is a judge or a lawyer... the idea that someone trained in the law publicly makes the basal assumption that the woman is "the victim" by default is illuminating.
/r/MensRights29/07/14 08:09 PM
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Give the article a read. Dawkins was making a point about logic, and not rape itself. He wasn't actually making an argument about rape, he was trying to demonstrate that saying that something is worse than something else does not constitute an endorsement of the former item. 'Hawaiian pizza is bad. Vegetarian pizza is worse. That doesn't mean I endorse Hawaiian pizza...' That is essentially his point, except he was using controversial terms like "rape" to make the point that logic of language st…
/r/MensRights29/07/14 08:03 PM
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Are you fucking insane? Threatening to murder someone's entire family is not mild. That is about as violent a threat that you could come up with. "Mild" would be the situation in this article where a woman said early in the evening that she wasn't interested in having sex, and then later when he tried to have sex with her again she "just wanted to go to bed so she laid there and didn't do anything and 'let him finish'." "Mild" would be having consensual sex and then one party decides to withdraw…
/r/MensRights29/07/14 07:55 PM
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Well, how do you know in a split second if your life is in danger? Say you're in an argument and someone hits you hard in the face... how do you assess how much danger you're in? Does this person know how to fight? Do they have a weapon? Is an improvised weapon (kitchen knife etc.) within reach? Do they have other people nearby in your blind spot that would assist them in the attack? The safest assumption when you get hit by anyone is that you are in danger. To suggest that this is not the case …
/r/MensRights29/07/14 07:38 PM
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You probably weren't watching carefully enough, but did you not hear The View's law expert explain that when a woman hits a man she is the victim?
/r/MensRights29/07/14 07:33 PM
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Doesn't that sort of explain why the legal system seems to treat men unfairly harshly... one of the issues that we keeping hammering on about around here?
/r/MensRights29/07/14 07:32 PM
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I hate this slogan. It ignores the issues and just serves to divide the conversation into the two already entrenched camps. It does nothing to win people onto our way of thinking.
/r/MensRights29/07/14 07:31 PM
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In the few times that I've seen clips of the show, I usually think Whoopi is the least of the evils. In another /r/mensrights The View post, the rest of the coven are attacking Ricky Gervais and he is handling them beautifully. Goldberg was on Gervais' side and keeps trying to get everyone to knock it off. However, in fairness, it's pretty easy to look like the "reasonable one" when you're sitting next to Jenni "vaccines cause autism" McCarthy and Sherri "I don't know if the earth is round or no…
/r/MensRights29/07/14 07:28 PM
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Well, if you want the stats on it, it actually is very rare for a random woman to be stronger than random man. There was a study on upper body strength that showed that the average man is stronger than 99.9% of women. Only 1 woman in 1000 is stronger than your typical 5'9" 180 pound dude on the street.
/r/MensRights29/07/14 07:21 PM
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I love the double-think that goes on in these scenarios. Think of the outrage if a man was talking about women's athletics as being a waste of time - "Women are small, weak, less skilled, and generally poor athletes, so women's sports is undeserving of any attention." cue outrage... Any generalization that paints women as inferior in this context is sexist and insulting. But then we start talking about women being obligated to not hit men. cue outrage.... "Women are so small and weak that they s…
/r/MensRights29/07/14 07:17 PM
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"Victim blaming," the other hosts called it. Saying that a woman shouldn't start a fight by hitting a man is "victim blaming." Let that sink in... Even in a scenario where a woman attacks a man, a percentage of the population considers her the "victim" of the situation regardless of what happens next. That is the sort of mindset that academic feminism has created and /r/mensrights needs to eradicate.
/r/MensRights29/07/14 07:12 PM
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That show is for women and Goldberg was talking to the female audience. She kept saying "Don't be surprised if you get hit back," and "Don't assume that the man will be chivalrous." She wasn't saying, "If a woman hits you it's totally fine to hit her back." She was saying, "No one should hit anybody, but women shouldn't (and shouldn't be allowed to) operate violently with the assumption that chivalry is a magic barrier that keeps them safe."
/r/MensRights29/07/14 07:03 PM
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Anyone else here like JennyMcBarfy more than Jenny McCarthy?
/r/MensRights29/07/14 07:00 PM
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Sounds like you're blaming the victim! Shitlord! /s
/r/MensRights29/07/14 06:59 PM
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I would be fine with this if it wasn't for the myriad of men's clubs that have been forced to open doors to women. Either single-sex clubs are fine or they aren't. I don't particularly care which is decided, but I would like it to be applied consistently.
/r/MensRights29/07/14 05:58 AM
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Yup. It's pretty clear that she thought that Burr saying, "Would you guys just fucking grow up," was directed at the "angry men on the Internet" that she mentioned and not at herself and her contemporaries.
/r/MensRights28/07/14 05:16 PM
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It is an incredibly common way to slander the men's rights movement - to say that we are hostile to homosexuals and that "male safe spaces" will become bastions of homophobia. This is not correct... but to people who are hostile to the MRM it "feels" correct. It's Stephen Colbert's "truthiness" all over again.
/r/MensRights27/07/14 04:24 AM
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Let's not forget about the fact that Woman-Owned Business is a national certification designed to provide unfair advantages to businesses owned by women. There are already advantages for women like this. And I find this very similar to the criticism that male writers/directors/game designers receive when they create art based on their own life experiences because it doesn't focus enough on women. Nobody seems to mind when women create content/businesses that focus on women... Women-only gyms/gol…
/r/MensRights26/07/14 08:43 PM
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I hate to do this, but I'm not exactly sure what this has to do with men's rights. Maybe if you phrased the title/question in a way that had to do with, say, media portrayal of men and women, and sexuality... then you might have a men's rights post. As it is written here, it seems like this is more appropriate for /r/movies or something.
/r/MensRights26/07/14 08:33 PM
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Yes. And arguments about the patriarchy use the logical fallacy "begging the question", meaning that they include what they are trying to prove in the premises. An argument might be something like "patriarchy theory tells us that 'damsels in distress' will be common because it sees women as objects that need to be acted upon... so because there are 'damsels in distress', patriarchy is true". This, of course, 'begs the question' how do you know that patriarchy is true, because you just assumed it…
/r/MensRights26/07/14 01:49 PM
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To be fair, many people support the idea that a woman deserve to be abused for certain actions... and those people collectively call themselves "Boko Haram".
/r/MensRights24/07/14 07:25 PM
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If a large woman beat up a small man there would be equal parts "you go girl" female chauvinism and small man shaming. Remember this video capturing women's reactions as a man is beaten in public? People love cheering for women beating men at physical activities... especially fighting. And people love to mock small men for being ineffectual or overcompensating or having "small man syndrome". People would be unlikely to help the man. They would assume he did something to deserve it.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 05:50 AM
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Cool. Sorry bot. I thought that it was fine to link within /r/mensrights from /r/mensrights... Wait. You're a bot. Why am I typing this?
/r/MensRights24/07/14 03:27 AM
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I was just going by the data as I had seen it so far. I'd seen many of these sorts of "moms/women are so great" ads. Most ads aimed at men seemed to use a different sort of manipulation - the irreverent Old Spice ads come to mind. I said "it would seem that women are more susceptible to this kind of manipulation" and that they would advertise to men if they were just as susceptible. Well, based on this commercial on the front page of men's rights, it looks like they figured out how to kiss dads'…
/r/MensRights24/07/14 03:26 AM
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Nice to see positive masculinity in advertising, but this feels way too /r/hailcorporate for my taste. I'm not buying a brand of cereal just because the company kisses my ass.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 03:19 AM
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It was worse than that. There were 3 different parts of one sentence that were separated by special effects. "People snap..." Flash SHING! "and that little snap..." Flash SHING! "is microseconds but the damage that can be caused is forever."
/r/MensRights24/07/14 01:24 AM
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Not pressing charges just allows people like that woman to continue to be violent without consequence. I know that it seems like it's being a "good guy" to not press charges... and I may not want to if I were in his position... but what happens to the next guy who gives her wrong directions and gets attacked? Maybe he gets hurt. Maybe he defends himself and hurts her. No matter what, it's a bad ending.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 01:22 AM
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Honestly, this is just about as perfect example of the way that mainstream media and society view men and women with regard to violence. I hope this goes right through the top of /r/mensrights and onto /r/all. A man begs a woman to stop assaulting him and the news acts like he was the aggressor and at fault... complete with music cues, visual affects, and commentary. Honestly, you couldn't make satire this good.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 01:16 AM
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Sarkeesian has totally fucked herself with her kickstarter. I mean, she made a ton of money, so that's great for her, but I'm sure she feels utterly trapped by her success... and that's why it's 2 years since her promised "delivery date" and she's only covered 3 of 12 topics. Let's have a look at her proposed videos: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/566429325/tropes-vs-women-in-video-games She started with "#1 Damsel in Distress", which isn't surprising since she had plenty of material to dr…
/r/MensRights22/07/14 09:01 PM
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The data doesn't matter to Sarkeesian. Stats and data are her enemies. It only matters that her observations "feel" right. She is truthiness incarnate. I always feel disappointed that comedians like Colbert mostly turn their bullshit detectors exclusively on the very conservative, since the feminist liberal side has just as much truthy nonsense.
/r/MensRights22/07/14 08:33 PM
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Indeed. There are two "loaded" ways to view the disproportionate number of female damsels. 1) Sarkeesian's way, which says that women are viewed as weak and incapable of caring for themselves and thus need to be rescued. 2) The opposite way - that women are chosen to be in need of rescue because society says that they are worth rescuing. The protagonist chooses to risk everything to rescue the woman because of the high value that society places on her life. Simply by existing her life has value.…
/r/MensRights22/07/14 08:18 PM
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Women are much more susceptible to this sort of manipulation, it would seem. Look at all the feminine products with advertising campaigns aimed at stroking the egos of their consumers. "Inner beauty" "#LikeAgirl" etc. There are plenty of examples of this sort of pandering in politics too. If you could manipulate men in this way (without gaining the ire of feminists for the ads being "misogynistic"), they would advertise like this to men too.
/r/MensRights22/07/14 07:38 PM
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There are some issues that are just "bad" and can be solved without making them a gendered problem. Think about this - when people say "end violence against women" or "we are focusing on the issue of male rapists and female rape victims because the other doesn't happen as much," we here at /r/mensrights get upset. "Just because it happens less doesn't mean that you get to just ignore it!" we shout back. By making prison rape a gendered issue, we are doing the same thing. And I refuse to be a hyp…
/r/MensRights21/07/14 06:10 PM
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Don't you remember /r/mensrights posts a little while ago about how women needed more help with retirement? You see, women retire younger and die much later, so many of them run out of savings before they die. Men on the other hand retire late and die young so they do not have this clearly misogynistic problem. It doesn't take much to phrase "women live much longer than men" in a way where it's women who are "true" victims.
/r/MensRights21/07/14 05:36 PM
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Indeed. One could then extrapolate that societies that didn't create a gendered division of labor could not compete either. In the past when most work was heavy physical labor, it made little sense to have women - much smaller and weaker than men - going out and getting jobs rather than raising the next generation. Societies that sent women to battle would have collapsed. Cultures where men "worked" and women raised the next generation (both equally important roles) were born out of necessity an…
/r/MensRights21/07/14 05:32 PM
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Oliver didn't explicitly draw attention to the fact that the vast vast majority of jokes were at the expense of men, but the montage sort of spoke for itself. Just a friendly reminder that the term "rape culture" was originally coined to refer to the deplorable attitudes towards rape in the male prison system and it has only recently been co-opted by feminists to refer to college campuses and society in general.
/r/MensRights21/07/14 05:12 PM
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Rape segment starts at 3:10. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pz3syET3DY&t=3m10s
/r/MensRights21/07/14 04:54 PM
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Absolutely. The video tells a very different story than the testimony I heard earlier in the year. Amber Battle admitted to "initiating first contact," as if she greenlit a Star Trek movie. She should have admitted to "punching him in the face for no reason."
/r/MensRights17/07/14 06:51 AM
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EDIT: Check out the headline on the news story! "Surveillance footage shows Texas Tech's Nigel Bethel punching Amber Battle" ?? What about the part at the beginning where she punches him first? How about "Bethel and Battle Exchange Punches" or something? Wow. The guy gets punched by a woman bigger than he is, punches back, and then gets fucking swarmed by ton of dudes while trying to just walk away. There was a thread earlier today asking how it's possible for us to think that women have so much…
/r/MensRights17/07/14 06:46 AM
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Wow. That's a loaded question if I've ever seen one...
/r/MensRights13/07/14 09:51 PM
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Pyramid scheme?
/r/MensRights13/07/14 06:28 PM
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...where are you getting this information from?
/r/MensRights13/07/14 04:11 PM
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It's not entirely unlike the precautions that biologists have had to take regarding quote-mining to discredit evolution by creationists. It's not impossible.
/r/MensRights13/07/14 04:05 PM
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I think that this is a subtle point, but what I was saying is that if women have the right to abortion, then men have the right to "financial abortion". That's what I meant when I said that "fathers should have equal (but different) parental rights". If abortion was illegal, then I don't think men have the right to "financial abortion" because that is not equal, but since abortion is legal, then "financial abortion" should be too. I care about the equality of the matter... not abortion itself.
/r/MensRights13/07/14 04:04 PM
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In my defense, I had not yet seen the slide in context... but had seen it out of context a lot. And based on how it was being represented (incorrectly, mind you) the term "moron" seemed justified. If the slide was just "Stop objectifying me. You're being creepy." it would have worked. The problem is that the term "rape" is so loaded that it has to be used with incredible care. So I still maintain that without the context that "creepy" is being replaced with "rapey" in common parlance, it was car…
/r/MensRights11/07/14 07:07 PM
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Okay. I'll watch it. But, considering how controversial the topic is, people should have been more aware of how content could be taken out of context as it was the first conference of its kind. It's really easy to just grab that slide and use it to really undermine the purpose of the conference... Edit: The slide was actually around the 17 minute mark. And, yes, the slide was taken out of context. But the problem is that it could easily, and has frequently been, taken out of context. IMHO Dr. Pa…
/r/MensRights11/07/14 05:38 PM
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Who was the moron who put up the Miley Cyrus slide? Seriously. That one slide has been front-and-center in every single criticism of that conference.
/r/MensRights11/07/14 04:23 PM
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In broad strokes: It's hardly surprising that men have lower GPAs on average when you consider their disproportionately high enrollment in difficult programs like Physics, Engineering, and Computer Science. And then look at the response - tons of effort to encourage women to enter these more difficult programs. In areas where men "do better" there are campaigns for "equality"; in areas where women "do better" people like /u/TouchMyDuck explain that it is fine because women are better.
/r/MensRights11/07/14 04:17 PM
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Why is this here? What does this have to do with anything?
/r/MensRights11/07/14 04:05 PM
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^ ^ Troll ^ ^
/r/MensRights11/07/14 05:27 AM
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Yes. You have a pro-life stance in your personal life, but that is your own personal choice and not a representation of the movement as a whole. It's the same way that you might be a Christian or a Muslim or an Atheist... but those beliefs neither support nor conflict with the concept of men's rights. Does that make sense?
/r/MensRights11/07/14 05:24 AM
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Father's rights are a men's rights issue. Abortion is not.
/r/MensRights11/07/14 02:51 AM
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That's why I said that we believe that father's should have "different but equal" parental rights. But the MRM does not have an official stance on actual biological abortion.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 09:12 PM
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No problem. I know that's what you were doing, but I think it's important to make sure that is clear since this has actually been one of the ways that the MRM has been slandered in the past. The SNL sketch about the MRA had the guy celebrating because he shut down a bunch of Planned Parenthoods and I remember thinking "I don't think I've ever heard of any MRA talking about Planned Parenthood." They want to cast the MRM as being anti-woman instead of being concerned about men's issues... and abor…
/r/MensRights10/07/14 09:10 PM
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I acknowledge that this is one of many reasons that this is a terrible law. But I find it disconcerting that this reason was highlighted when the real problem is that they are destroying the presumption of innocence. Difficult cross examination is such a tiny side effect of the destruction of presumption of innocence. It would be like the government authorizing the use of torture on the prison population and the article talking about how it's a bad idea because it would be bad for the mental hea…
/r/MensRights10/07/14 08:29 PM
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Obviously... because women don't lie about rape. It's literally never happened... or been proven to have happened... in several famous high-profile cases...
/r/MensRights10/07/14 07:25 PM
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I'm not offended by the comment. I'm not crying about it. I said that it doesn't accomplish anything. I'm saying that this forum is supposed to be about issues and calling someone fat, or disgusting, or a piece of shit doesn't actually do anything to deal with the issues. It's counterproductive. The comment is completely off-topic. The problem with her is her words, not her appearance...
/r/MensRights10/07/14 06:38 PM
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The opposition politician said it would be an “open invitation” for defence lawyers to launch aggressive cross-examinations of victims. That is the reason that this law is a problem? That accusers will be cross-examined aggressively? Seriously? The problem isn't that you've totally thrown out one of the fundamental principles of justice - innocent until proven guilty? No... it's because the accused will be cross examined more harshly because the defense has to prove their innocence since they ar…
/r/MensRights10/07/14 05:48 PM
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I think we need to make it clear that /r/mensrights and the MRM does not have an official stance on abortion. There are pro-life and pro-choice people here and abortion isn't an issue that we rally about - only that fathers should have equal (but different) parental rights. The reason that this is posted here is that a woman assaulted several men and used sexist and racist epithets against them. She felt entitled to attack them because they were men.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 05:43 PM
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Yeah, that comment doesn't really accomplish anything...
/r/MensRights10/07/14 05:40 PM
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Right. The problem is not "objectification". I think that the concept of objectification is mostly just bullshit. The problem is the hypocrisy. If a man 'objectified' a woman like that, there would be twitter campaigns and apologies and reprimands etc. I don't want to start becoming hyper-critical like feminists, I want to call feminists out on their hypocrisy.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 04:45 PM
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Good for you to ask for data... A quick google led to this: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bbcs-wimbledon-final-ratings-drop-716875 The men averaged about 6 million while the peak of the women was about 3 million. And this was disappointing since last year's men's final had an average of about 12 million and an average of about 17 million. So the peak viewership of the women's final was half that of the men's final... and, if you believe the trend above, the men's average would be about t…
/r/MensRights08/07/14 10:29 PM
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Yeah, except the men's game brings in more viewership and sponsorship. So by your criteria, the men do deserve to be paid more. To follow your analogy, the current state of tennis would be like hollywood had a rule that the top billed man and top billed woman in the film had to be paid exactly the same amount, irrespective of their respective talent, cache, contributions to the film, etc.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 08:58 PM
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1) I don't think that the male to female advantage in tennis is purely based on strength. I think that men are more skilled. The level of play is much higher among men across all major professional sports. 2) I don't think males should be paid more because they are male. I think that the best players in the world deserve to be paid the most irrespective of gender. I'm a man and I don't have the genetics to be a pro athlete. Aren't I being discriminated against by biology too? I wasn't born with …
/r/MensRights08/07/14 06:54 PM
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So... double irony?
/r/MensRights07/07/14 09:35 PM
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It's funnier when it's being used ironically... Here it feels kind of depressing...
/r/MensRights07/07/14 04:33 PM
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There are more reasons that the men should be paid more than just that they "work longer hours"... that point is simply the most egregious. There is also the fact that the men are simply better at the sport and therefore bring in more viewership and advertising. If fans want to watch "the best in the world" they watch men's tennis, as the worst-ranked man at Wimbledon will beat the women's champion handily. More viewership should mean more money. More skill should mean more money. There is no di…
/r/MensRights07/07/14 04:33 PM
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There is a big difference between shaving your legs and armpits when they will be visible and shaving your entire body every day. Do you have any idea how hairy most guys are? Anyways, I wasn't really commenting on the whole "equality in effort" from a fairness point of view... I just don't think people realize what a massive effort it is to shave a hairy guy. Most guys can't reach all the hair on their bodies - how do you shave your back without a friend's help?
/r/MensRights05/07/14 08:02 PM
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Dude... we have much bigger fish to fry than this. What is your argument here? That in a comedy article about music festivals there is a larger number of jokes about male attendees of said music festival than women? Seriously? That's it. If this was a feminist post it would be posted to, and then mocked by, /r/tumblrinaction in a heartbeat. Seriously. We are better than this.
/r/MensRights05/07/14 03:21 AM
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I think that the proportion of women who want a man to shaved his body hair is significantly smaller than the proportion of men who want a woman to shave her legs and pits...
/r/MensRights05/07/14 03:18 AM
28

"Male students get the same credit for shaving everything from the neck down." Sounds like the male students have a lot more work to do for the same credit...
/r/MensRights04/07/14 05:43 PM
9

This is a stupid article that is only tangentially related to men's rights. I know everyone here hates Vice, so let's not give them traffic! Downvoted.
/r/MensRights04/07/14 05:41 PM
7

I was really hoping that Thunderf00t would call Anita out on some of the ways she misrepresented games. For example, Anita shows a scene from Bioshock where a character refers to prostitutes are commodities... and she leaves it there without context as evidence that the game is glorifying the mistreatment of women. But, of course, the whole point of Bioshock is that it is critical of not glorifying its game world. They included the prostitute scene to say, "Look how ugly this philosophy is!" It …
/r/MensRights04/07/14 04:53 PM
3

I was really hoping that Thunderf00t was going to preemptively debunk the "male audience" arguments, since every time that I say that the target audience of Halo etc. is men, people cite the ESA study that says that 48% of gamers are women... and then I say that the study includes everyone who plays games sometimes as "gamers" and that there is a big difference between someone who reads gaming magazines, comments on /r/truegaming, and buys multiple consoles or gaming PCs than someone who plays C…
/r/MensRights04/07/14 04:48 PM
100

Dear god... don't you just miss the days when content was just content and there wasn't this obsessive backlash over every single fucking storyline? "That character is just a prop. That one is an object. There aren't enough females. The females that are there aren't strong enough. Or don't talk to each other enough. Or they need to be rescued. Or they rescue the men and therefore are emotionally dependent on them. That one is too stoic and is basically just a man with boobs. That one is too emot…
/r/MensRights03/07/14 09:24 PM
5

Just like actual sports, there is a women's league and a "whoever". They never actually have a "men's" league, because women can do whatever they want and men have to stay where they belong... It's funny, as I'm typing this, it occurs to me that this is not entirely like all roles for men in the world.
/r/MensRights03/07/14 03:11 PM
3

The one point that she missed is in mate selection - women place a far higher value on their future mate's income, so many men will pursue high-paying careers even if that isn't what they would rather be doing. You see that sort of thing happening in lower-educated groups, where men will take harder labor jobs - dangerous, out-doors, tiring - in order to get a good paycheck, compared to women who are more likely to choose indoor jobs working with kids etc. In the college educated groups this mea…
/r/MensRights30/06/14 08:59 PM
0

The idea that, in general, many math-gifted men are only math gifted whereas many of the proportionally gifted women are also gifted in languages is a great illustration of why the sexes pursue different interests. Seriously - have you ever looked at the hardest math, physics, or computer science problems. It's the most brutally difficult and soul-crushingly boring stuff in the world. If you had a choice between doing that or being equally successful working in other fields, it's no wonder that …
/r/MensRights30/06/14 08:51 PM
3

Yeah. That's why I said "in the montage". The way that the video is structured is totally disingenuous. She specifically highlights women being sexualized or killed in open-world games as if that is the point of the game. In open-world games you can do whatever you want, and you could just as easily murder exclusively men etc.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 06:32 PM
2

No. The video is a commercial for Verizon, so it's about trying to get you to disingenuously associate positive feelings with a heartless billion dollar corporation. So it recasts several perfectly reasonable scenarios as negative ones, so that you feel bad about your own behavior and then it shows that Verizon is correcting your mistakes. People love to uplift girls. Nobody wants to be a bigot. So they make you feel bad and then associate women's empowerment with their company. None of the shot…
/r/MensRights29/06/14 05:46 PM
4

Honestly, I wouldn't have even cared whether she bought the games and captured the footage herself. She easily could have used the footage from other channels under fair use (as long as she cited them properly). What she should have done was collected actual data. What percentage of each games' fanbase is male? What percentage of games require you to rescue a male or female ally? What is the relationship of the rescued character to the protagonist? How have these trends evolved over the years? I…
/r/MensRights29/06/14 05:17 PM
4

Well, I guess it's about time that we started protesting the Chicago Bears because it's offensive to large bearded men... that makes about the same amount of sense...
/r/MensRights28/06/14 10:56 PM
72

This is wonderful satire. It just goes to show how easy it is to make your points if you appeal to feelings instead of logic and you include the conclusion of your argument in the premise. The most offensive thing about Sarkeesian's videos is how she claimed that she needed money to do "serious research" and was given enough to fund several PhDs full time and yet has never shown any data at all. It's always out-of-context videos that are cherry-picked to support her argument. For example, in her…
/r/MensRights28/06/14 07:32 PM
11

And as if parents don't call their sons "handsome". Edit because I feel like ranting: Do we seriously think for a second that calling a baby boy handsome that he won't grow up and become an engineer? Or telling a boy to stop tormenting a starfish... or telling a younger sibling that they should let an older sibling be the one to use power tools... is that stopping little boys from becoming engineers? I get the "don't coddle your kids too much" message. But the idea that that is the reason that w…
/r/MensRights27/06/14 04:07 PM
1

I already did.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 12:59 PM
1

Holy shit. How is this article not the top post on /r/mensrights? Time magazine is writing about how MRAs are right about domestic violence! And about how feminists are being hostile to both men and data, and are being hypocrites about the supposed ideals of feminism being about gender equality! This is a huge deal...
/r/MensRights27/06/14 11:55 AM
1

Gotcha. Well, I guess that's kinda why I had asked the question in the first place. I figured someone around here is probably a lawyer who could weigh in on the discussion... well at least that's what I thought before I got downvoted like a troll. Sometimes I just don't "get" the hivemind...
/r/MensRights27/06/14 04:42 AM
1

Exactly... And it's not like they throw women in jail just because there isn't a conviction. They need to hand out severe punishments to the proven false accusers as a deterrent because it's so hard to prove an accusation to be false...
/r/MensRights27/06/14 04:40 AM
2

Great. What "education and political protections" would that be? Does that mean it falls under "fair use" or is that something else?
/r/MensRights27/06/14 02:41 AM
2

Well, yes. I assumed that. But I want to know what the allegation actually is and who is making it. What is alleged to have happened, what is the evidence, why isn't the actual alleged victim coming forward, what did the coach know, how did he handle it that was deemed inappropriate, how were other team members and members of the hockey association complicit in the actions of the team members?
/r/MensRights26/06/14 05:52 PM
2

Is there any comprehensive story on what exactly happened? All I can find is that a third party (not the alleged victim) came forward about an alleged sexual misconduct that was caused by 3 players of the 24 on the team. As well, I've read that the fired coach knew about the incident (whatever it was) shortly after it occurred and chose to deal with it himself without going to university officials. The police were involved, but no charges were filed. With so little information to go on, it's rea…
/r/MensRights26/06/14 05:24 PM
1

Institutional inertia. That quote is from "Women's Aid", a charity that is seriously threatened by the idea that women are more abusive than men. Think about Women's Studies departments in colleges... are they just going to pack it in today and say, "Well... the job is done! Men and women are equal! Pack it up everybody!" Of course not. That's why you hear feminists professors say "it's worse than ever" for women today. Because they need women to be disadvantaged in order to justify their existe…
/r/MensRights26/06/14 04:30 PM
1

Social science is so fuzzy that it's driven more by agenda via confirmation bias than data.
/r/MensRights26/06/14 04:20 PM
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Seems like it would be questionable from a legal standpoint though, no? I mean, it circumvents the Howard Stern strategy of "love me or hate me, either way you're listening", but surely there are issues of copyright at play here... But fuck me if I don't hate click-bait articles, so any way that we can discourage that practice legally means I am on board...
/r/MensRights26/06/14 04:00 PM
2

And a total misrepresentation of even mild social issues that get discussed. For example, they say that we say that women have nothing to worry about walking alone at night... bull shit! Everything I've ever seen on here has said everyone should take precautions. That being a man doesn't prevent you from being mugged or attacked or anything else. There isn't some magic aura that men have that keeps them safe walking alone at night. Everybody should be protecting themself. Everybody. Everybody sh…
/r/MensRights26/06/14 03:19 PM
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Nice. I was going to post the same thing. We almost need to start using some sort of code word for the "FZ" otherwise we're going to end up on that list with all the "we never talk about FZ" posts. As it stands right now, FZ and MRA have zero overlap. FZ is not a men's rights issue or topic, other than the fact that the criticism of FZ comes from a lack of empathy to men... that I could go into detail on, but this isn't really the place.
/r/MensRights26/06/14 04:53 AM
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Even if the split was 90/10 male vs. female aggressor it would still be wrong and unfair to cast men as violent perpetrators and women as victims. Even if it was 99/1 it would be unfair. As it stands, women are more likely to be violent... but tell that to the average feminist (as I have) and they will start pulling stats about hospital visits or "serious" injury in order to cast men in a worse light. The point is that we are all people and all deserve equal rights and responsibilities.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 03:41 PM
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Yup. That's why I post here. I'm for equality, but the only place that you can talk about the problems that men face is places like this. Good luck talking about this in real life or in mainstream media. Everywhere else looks just like that Bill Maher pieces we just watched.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 03:17 PM
0

But it isn't just women who grow up knowing that they will never play at the highest level. The vast majority of men know that they will never play in the world cup too. We can't all hit the genetic lottery for every skill and ability. I'm male and played soccer growing up and it became very clear fairly early that I would never play in the world cup. In fact, despite being male, I'm not capable of playing professional-level anything! A very tiny percentage of humans is capable of playing world …
/r/MensRights25/06/14 04:21 AM
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And didn't they block the creation of a Council for Boys and Men? You'd think feminism, wanting "equality", would have been really outraged by that... right?
/r/MensRights22/06/14 06:05 PM
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And it isn't just black men. The goal includes other at-risk groups like Latino and Native American males. It seems like the sort of thing that these sorts of people should be able to get behind because they have gone out of their way to exclude at-risk, low-income white males... the most evil and despicable group in history. /s
/r/MensRights22/06/14 06:04 PM
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Okay, so, devil's advocate here... help me out... I've heard that these sorts of criticisms are sort of like how Creationists deny evolution. That there is this massive consensus in the field and only a few fringe people actually disagree with the concept. The argument is that denying social science consensus is like denying evolution or climate change. So how is this situation different? Is it that social science is less reliable and more subjective than hard science? Are social scientists actu…
/r/MensRights22/06/14 05:55 PM
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Well, if she does get off easy then this would be the perfect story to demonstrate how differently we view assault when the victim is male and the perpetrator is female. Can anyone imagine how differently the case would be handled if an adult man tackled a 16 year-old girl, punched her, tore her shirt, grabbed her nipples, and stuck his fingers in her mouth? Seriously think about how a man would (and should) be locked up for years for aggravated and sexual assault. The craziest part is that the …
/r/MensRights22/06/14 05:41 PM
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This is very similar to the way that "feminism" is defined in such a way that not supporting "feminism" makes you a bigot. It seems like social justice battles are won using dictionary tricks.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 05:31 PM
1

Excuse me. I had read read "black" in another article and thought that it was targeted only at them. Now that I re-read the article I see it's targeted at the most at-risk male demographics - black, latino and native males. Thank you for the correction.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 01:47 PM
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I think that a lot of men see selflessness as a virtue. They would feel guilty taking something just for themselves. This is noble. But it's not like there aren't a myriad of resources available to young women. If there weren't already so many programs for women, then it would be a problem. But at-risk boys definitely need unique assistance. Personally, I would like to see the target be "low-income at-risk" boys rather than "black" boys. Sure... target the aid in at-risk black neighbourhoods and…
/r/MensRights20/06/14 11:59 PM
1

Yeah. But the point is that that meme was being used incorrectly such that most people would think that /u/bluedude14 meant the opposite of what was meant. It would be like complimenting someone for telling an interesting story by saying, "Cool story, bro," which means the opposite.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 08:47 PM
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Another hypothesis: response is affected by experience with the stimulus. The first drop on a roller coaster gives you a massive rush of terror and excitement... the 5th time you ride it probably results in a light laugh. If you are exposed to a stimulus over and over again, the response is less each time. I would hypothesize that women expose themselves to "heartwarming" content much more than men do. It might be that my wife, the schmaltz junkie, would need some seriously heartwarming shit in …
/r/MensRights19/06/14 08:53 PM
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My first instinct was that it made sense to make both illegal if the act itself was thought to be bad for society. I mean... if "people doing meth" is bad for society, you probably want to get both the person selling the meth and the person buying the meth in trouble. To a first approximation within the analogy, this seems like it's punishing the drug user but not the drug dealer. But in the grander scheme, the economics of sex and drugs are rather different.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 06:53 PM
2

Can you give a rough break-down of why it's a good idea?
/r/MensRights19/06/14 04:22 PM
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But it is an oversimplification. Not every character is like that. By saying "always" you make it trivial to find counter-examples and you make yourself look wrong. I agree that there is a trend towards the "kickass woman" character. The fact that Hunger Games was the top grossing film last year despite being laughably bad is a great example of how huge the audience is for young female heroes. Tauriel is interesting because, if I'm reading wikipedia right, she saves Kili several times in the fil…
/r/MensRights18/06/14 07:33 PM
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Well... my point is that the quote you provided is a huge oversimplification of "all animated films of the past 25 years". Not every man is stodgy, clueless, evil, or dumb. Not every woman is a "real person". Most don't feature a princess. Look at The Incredibles - that's a fairly nuanced tale about a man coping with the boredom of life in the suburbs as a middle aged man who, on the inside, feels like a lion capable of anything. Then look at Edna Mode... she's a ridiculous caricature and hardly…
/r/MensRights18/06/14 07:26 PM
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Yes. Exactly. The point of a thought like this is not to say "men are portrayed badly in the media"... it's to say, "Everyone who complains about female characters, but ignores male characters is a cherry-picking hypocrite".
/r/MensRights18/06/14 06:25 PM
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That's an oversimplification of the debate and is not better than the people who say that "there aren't enough strong female characters in film". If we aren't really willing to discuss the issue, we'll never make any progress.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 05:09 PM
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It isn't just that they feel owed a specific character that they want... it's that they want every movie to feature that character archetype. Look at how they've highlighted a handful of movies where the woman wasn't the absolute hero in the end. Now lets look at the top 3 grossing films of 2013 - Hunger Games, Iron Man, Frozen. So all 3 movies have exactly what they want (spoilers) - Hunger Games has Katniss, Frozen has Anna and Elsa, Iron Man has Pepper Potts saving Tony Stark and killing Mand…
/r/MensRights18/06/14 04:52 PM
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I'm not worried. I just want everyone to calm the fuck down. Women can watch fantasy movies where the princess forsakes her role and becomes a badass. I can watch movies where the knight rescues the princess from the necromancer. Just because men are stupid in one movie, doesn't mean all men are stupid. Just because a princess isn't a warrior in one movie, doesn't mean all women are weak. SJWs who only complain about the portrayal of women are hypocrites.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 02:34 PM
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Yes with a caveat. I see no problem with a movie being about a smart girl whose life is filled with dumb men. I mean, the story doesn't appeal to me, but I don't think there's anything wrong with writing a story about a girl who wants to define her own role in the world etc. But I also don't see a problem with a story about a princess who is kidnapped and needs to be saved by a heroic knight. The problem I have is this obsessive over-analysis and criticism of every single piece of media by hypoc…
/r/MensRights18/06/14 02:29 PM
5

Are you thinking of the wrong movie? Isn't that Frozen?
/r/MensRights18/06/14 02:11 PM
1

If that was the case, why did he only do it for the chart where men are victims but not for the chart where women are victims. If he did it for "readability" he should have done it consistently.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 02:02 AM
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I think that the point here is that things would be different if it was a male coach and a female student...
/r/MensRights17/06/14 07:00 PM
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I agree, but this is about a broad trend where women victims are highlighted and male victims are not. It creates the perception of misogyny because you read way more news stories about female victims being specifically targeted... For example, a lot was made of the Boko Haram case with headlines about "schoolgirls" being kidnapped, not "schoolchildren". However, when men are targeted, they're just "Kenyans", not specifically Kenyan men who were targeted. It's a big reason that people subconscio…
/r/MensRights17/06/14 06:59 PM
0

He probably didn't cheat with his sources... The problem is that whenever I see something like a non-zeroed graph that has a natural zero, I get a "red flag" set off in my brain that automatically makes me skeptical of everything that the person is saying. And my point is that he didn't need to do that. The data already speaks for itself. I'll give you a similar example - the new Anita Sarkeesian video came out talking about objectification of women in games. She shows a video of Dragon Age wher…
/r/MensRights17/06/14 06:53 PM
1

I watched for a bit, and I really think that he seriously discredits his argument with manipulative charts. In situations where men have it worse, he starts the chart well above the "0" line. When women have it worse, he starts the charts at 0. At least he does admit that he did it while speaking, but there is no reason to do that other than to make things seem much worse for men or women... which he doesn't need to do because things are roughly equal. Furthermore, 3D charts like that just obscu…
/r/MensRights17/06/14 06:39 PM
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Nice to see that now they realize that you can't use anonymous internet troll comments to show broad social trends in society. I wonder where this investigative and skeptical spirit was when Anita Sarkeesian earned $160,000 in donations on the backs of the "death threats" she was receiving for whining about video games... Funny how people take some anonymous comments deadly seriously and others not at all...
/r/MensRights17/06/14 04:22 PM
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Ideas must be tested and those that cannot pass the test cannot be held as "truths". This article shows why every feminist forum feels like its designed to be an echo chamber - they are unwilling to test their ideas. They are unwilling to recognize the experiences of others. The logic of "privilege" eats itself: Feminists assert that a privileged class cannot recognize its own privileges because it is so accustomed to owning said advantages. They use this to explain why men, a "privileged class"…
/r/MensRights14/06/14 08:09 PM
2

I could be mistaken, but the pro-female bias in sociology is so strong that such preamble is sort of mandatory in order to get published... especially when the experiments suggest that women have biases that men do not. This it the problem with "social sciences"... The data show something - "Women have pro-women biases and men do not show bias," but then the authors need to come up with some sort of story to explain why this is. The first part is scientific but the second part is not. This sort …
/r/MensRights14/06/14 07:57 PM
2

Right. The title is ambiguous. Probably should resubmit the article with a new title featuring the word "yet". "The Telegraph releases article "busting" rape myths... yet they still only refer to male perpetrators and female victims."
/r/MensRights14/06/14 07:51 PM
2

"When guys are like, man, hot girls keep us down..." Gethard's first sentence is all you need to read to know that he is hopelessly misinformed about men's rights issues. Men's Rights literally has nothing to do with "hot girls keeping you down". It's about things like the fact that men make up the majority of suicides and the minority of graduates at all education levels. But I guess, according to Gethard I don't deserve to be loved by anyone because I wrote that...
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:04 PM
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Yup. And I like imagining what would happen if Jay Z released a song called "Men Run The World" that celebrates male power in the world. Do you think that maybe people would view the song as being in bad taste? Nobody seemed to mind the Beyonce's female version of that...
/r/MensRights13/06/14 07:52 PM
5

Amy Bishop, for example?
/r/MensRights12/06/14 07:17 PM
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I feel like I shouldn't have to write this at this point, but does anybody... literally anybody... think that a man would have been acquitted of these charges? You can watch the goddamn surveillance video of her trying to cut his throat on that website! How is it even remotely possible that she isn't guilty?
/r/MensRights11/06/14 04:18 AM
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The report says "man taking pervy [sic] pictures". Man? This is a 16 year old kid. It's a boy. This is an adult woman attacking a boy. My interpretation: Engraged adult woman attacks teenage boy for playing with his helicopter toy at the beach. News story: Woman hands out "her own brand of justice" against a man taking "pervy" pictures with his "drone".
/r/MensRights09/06/14 08:51 PM
1

Yup. This is a worthless post.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 08:45 PM
2

I thought this was well done. I know that it isn't "reddiquette" to say this, but I'm seeing a high percentage of downvotes. It'd be awesome if the downvoters would explain what they found distasteful about the video rather than just downvoting...
/r/MensRights09/06/14 08:18 PM
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My favorite part so far - Guest: I'm a working class man sitting next to a professor. I have a missing tooth because I can't afford to fix it. She makes 4 times what I make. Host: Doesn't that come down to your own ability... education... I wonder if she says that when they talk about the supposed "wage gap" and "equal pay for equal work"?
/r/MensRights09/06/14 07:02 PM
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I agree. I continue to find it frustrating that some women will claim that many problems are exclusively female (with #yesallwomen etc.) and then claim you are "derailing" a discussion for women by claiming that it has happened to you too. "#yesallwomen learn to use their keys as a weapon for walking alone" Yes. So do men. I've had a few friends end up in hospital from being jumped walking alone at night. A friend was mugged by women at knife point. Why can't we just accept that these sorts of c…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 06:56 PM
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The fact that someone posts on feminist subreddits does not exclude them from posting here. Ideas should be judged, not people... and certainly not the company that they keep. You are correct about men being shouted at and groped. It's happened to me too. The reason that we have the impression that women are harassed more is the cognitive bias that is selective in what we deem "harassment".
/r/MensRights09/06/14 06:52 PM
13

Don't most "homeless" women stay in women's shelters, though? I think that, in my entire life, I've only ever seen one homeless woman sleeping in the street compared to countless men. Isn't the ratio of women's shelters to men's shelters compared to need a men's rights issue that we've talked about here?
/r/MensRights09/06/14 06:46 PM
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I know that you're filled with righteous anger and venting, but don't post stupid shit like this online. This literally contributes nothing of value to this discussion.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 04:23 PM
2

Cool. Sounds like we're pretty much on the same page then. I wasn't saying that there is no such thing as hiring discrimination, but I think you know that I wasn't saying that based on your responses. I really hate those AAUW-type "reports" that masquerade as scientific analyses when they are more like persuasive essays. I wish I could just trust such organizations to just report the data accurately... but it's in their interest to not do that...
/r/MensRights07/06/14 09:07 PM
1

Thanks for linking that report. Because it's a report with an obvious agenda/goals, I have to view the results with some skepticism. The AAUW is motivated to show that there is a significant pay gap because it justifies the existence/importance of the AAUW. Anyways. I have a few comments/questions. Hours worked: How exactly are they correcting for total hours worked? The report suggests that women work 5% fewer hours per week. Since we wouldn't expect a linear correlation between hours worked an…
/r/MensRights07/06/14 07:40 PM
2

Totally... and lets not forget the whole "Mabel is like my girlfriend" controversy going on right now...
/r/MensRights07/06/14 06:59 PM
1

I've been thinking about it, and I think that the tumblr "social justice" style of feminism has found a perfect target in the tech sphere, because tech companies are all terrified of appearing less that "inclusive", and so they will bow to every criticism. Let's face it - most tech companies are composed of a majority of white and Asian men. And these companies know that it's too easy to blame this on sexism despite heroic efforts at recruiting women (there just aren't as many qualified women ou…
/r/MensRights07/06/14 01:45 PM
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People automatically assume girls are bad at, for example, programming. Yeah, no. That isn't what OP said and not what we are talking about. We aren't talking about men vs. women. We're talking about masculinity vs. femininity. OP didn't say that women were undervalued in science, rather femininity might be undervalued in science. Furthermore, I have to question your speculation about the lower salary for women. If you talk to a female computer science grad, you'll know that they have no trouble…
/r/MensRights07/06/14 12:53 PM
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Asking a second time: Can you please post evidence of your claim? Like I said, I'm more than happy to apologize and take this down, but I need some evidence. Everything that I've read so far suggests that the controversy arose when the slide appeared on twitter out of context. Can you refute that?
/r/MensRights07/06/14 04:48 AM
2

The entire situation seems to be blowing a very benign joke completely out of proportion. The new headline seems to support that theory.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 03:07 AM
2

From what I've read, that's what the problem is from. Apparently those in attendance didn't seem to have a problem with the slide. It was only once the photo of the slide was posted on twitter that there started to be a controversy...
/r/MensRights06/06/14 11:58 PM
2

I saw the slide that went viral and the discussion of it from various sources. The joke, on the page, is not an attack on all women. One can imagine a woman making the same joke about her husband and nobody minding. However, I'll happily apologize and delete this post if I'm mistaken. Can you provide a link to the source you are referring to? In the end, I may not end up supporting the speaker, but I do think that it was intellectually dishonest make the title "Women 'complain a lot', says speak…
/r/MensRights06/06/14 11:50 PM
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Well... at least they changed the headline... Thanks for letting me know..
/r/MensRights06/06/14 09:02 PM
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I think that this was an interesting post and worth reading. However, I think that I take issue with some of the points that you made. For example, when you say that femininity is undervalued in the scientific community, what exactly do you mean? If we are going to say that "masculinity" is the logical side and "femininity" is the emotional side, or something like that (remembering that we are talking masculine/feminine not men/women), then of course science values logic and downplays emotion. N…
/r/MensRights06/06/14 07:51 PM
2

Thanks for delivering!
/r/MensRights06/06/14 06:17 PM
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The way in which some people jumped from "my girlfriend" to "all women" is the funniest thing about it, because it betrays what those people must have been thinking ("hey, I'm like that too. Boo! Unfair! Misogyny!"). That is such a brilliant insight. I read the joke as a burn on his girlfriend, who I assumed was there in the audience. Only people who hold the stereotype that all women are X, Y, and Z, would make the generalization that the guy was talking about all women and not just his girlfri…
/r/MensRights06/06/14 04:34 PM
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Your point is a good one, but I don't even think it applies here. This wasn't a comedian making a joke about all women, or even feminists. It was a developer giving a talk about technologies making a joke about a piece of software by comparing it to his girlfriend... one person. Not all women. One person. If he made a joke that it was like his newborn son because it never stops crying even when you are giving it attention, would that be an attack on all males? What if he made the joke that it wa…
/r/MensRights06/06/14 04:28 PM
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Can you ask her what she thinks of this apology from the conference organizers? I'm pretty disappointed that the company has decided to admit "fault" in the matter and made a massive kowtowing apology.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 04:25 PM
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Exactly. It's beyond insane. And it was a huge controversy for many years. Check out the size of the Wikipedia article on the topic! And that's just an overview. The highlight of the fight, by far, was the Sokal Affair where a scientist wrote a fake paper and got it published in a leading journal of cultural studies that was a haven of anti-science "scholars". "Transgressing the Boundaries: Towards a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity" states that Quantum Gravity is a social construc…
/r/MensRights06/06/14 04:21 PM
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NPR has run a totally dishonest headline. "Women 'Complain A Lot, Interrupt,' Developer Says At Conference" No he fucking didn't say that. He said that his girlfriend - one person - complains and interrupts him. He didn't say that all women do that! It would be like me taking an NPR article about a movie like Edge of Tomorrow and writing the headline: "NPR says 'All men star as William Cage in Edge of Tomorrow alongside all women as his/their mentor.'" EDIT: I sent a comment to NPR and they sile…
/r/MensRights06/06/14 03:45 PM
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Saying that the man is underemployed and must work a harder job to pay alimony sounds a lot like legal slavery. What if I'm tired and decide that working so much is negatively affecting my quality of life? What if I want "work life balance" that women are so often afforded? Nope. You have to keep working to pay your permanent debt, slave.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 03:25 PM
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This is so refreshing to hear at a school that features bullshit courses like this - "Feminism and Science" - about how science features "gendered constructions" about the natural world and that feminism is influencing science... If anyone is curious about what feminists have contributed to science, here is a clip of Richard Dawkins talking about it. I hate to spoil the fun, but if you can't watch the attached clip, it includes the feminist description of Newton's Principia as a "rape manual" an…
/r/MensRights06/06/14 03:20 PM
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Absolutely. Every hard-working successful businesswoman that I know thinks that the social justice warrior stuff is bullshit. I mean, every time they create priority enrollment or scholarships for women in fields like computer science, it just makes everyone question whether the woman got to where she is on her own merits, or if it was because she was helped by various efforts to bolster the number of women in the program. It makes it seem like women need help but men can succeed on their own te…
/r/MensRights06/06/14 03:14 PM
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Chickens coming home to roost, so to speak. That huge fortune was made, in part, by bashing men and lamenting their power and control. This episode of Politically Correct (which also includes perennial /r/mensrights 'contributor' Christina Hoff Sommers) has Moore shoveling the anti-male bullshit by the truckload. The reason he has so much power and money is because some people just love to hear men bash men, and he was more than happy to exchange his honor for a paycheck. I hope getting taken to…
/r/MensRights06/06/14 01:37 PM
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Really makes you think about how counter-productive "banning bossy" will be.
/r/MensRights05/06/14 04:42 PM
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You are 100% correct about that. The problem with anecdotal evidence on the internet is that you can't verify whether the story is correct because all you have is the word of the person who posted it.
/r/MensRights05/06/14 12:35 AM
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Nah. I don't want to go that far. Anecdotal evidence is bullshit. No question. I criticize anecdotal evidence all the time. You can't say "Smoking causes cancer" and have that countered by "Oh yeah? Well my mom is 95 and she smoked for 70 years!" That is not evidence. But my post wasn't about evidence. OP said that he "didn't get" /r/mensrights. So I explained how I came to post here. Maybe he has personal experiences that were similar and in a moment of reflection he would "get it". Maybe he ha…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 04:05 PM
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I read you're entire post and it was full of anecdotal evidence, basically every paragraph was a part of your life story which I really don't mind reading about. However anecdotal evidence is the worst type to use in an argument... Yes, but that wasn't an argument. I simply described how I came to post in /r/mensrights. OP said "I don't get it," and I said, "Well, this is why I'm here." if you want proof of this, I had a very different life growing up then you apparently. I grew up in a place wh…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:56 PM
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I can't speak for everyone, but I can give you a few reasons off the top of my head why I am here. I grew up in a school system that made me feel like there was something wrong with me for being male - we would have lessons and lectures about how patriarchal the world was even in grade school. That men were abusive. That men caused all the problems in the world. And I remember thinking, "This doesn't make sense... the students with the best grades are girls and most teachers are women who say gi…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:44 AM
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"In September, after her tenure denial, she filed a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, alleging gender discrimination." http://chronicle.com/article/Professor-Had-Raised-Concerns/64221/ She was denied the job she wanted and protested that it was because of sexism. Then she shot up her department. It wasn't a full-blown manifesto... but Bishop's problem wasn't narcissism like Rodger's. And she wasn't a child of the social media era. The fact that there weren't published v…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 12:56 AM
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Yeah... maybe you're right... It's too bad because it really seems to provide compelling evidence that the "accepted" idea there is more pressure on women to look "ideal" by the media and that it's harder for women to meet the standards set by the media... that all that isn't 100% true. I wouldn't be interested in a "we have it harder" argument. I'd just like people to acknowledge that people have it hard in general. Men have it hard too. For a lot of my IRL feminist friends, it would be an impr…
/r/MensRights02/06/14 11:46 PM
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Thanks for the compliment. I wish I had an alternative to suggest for those terms. Sadly I do not. But I'll keep thinking about it and I hope you do the same.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 11:32 PM
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I'd be really interested to see a post dedicated to this image somewhere on reddit. It would be great to see the kind of discussion it produces.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 10:50 PM
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As I just said above, she basically just described Cloud Strife, the most iconic character in one of the longest-running videogame series of all time. It's not like games and comics don't also serve those preferences. Talk about entitlement. Not every character in every medium has to appeal to that one comic book artist!
/r/MensRights02/06/14 10:48 PM
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Totally. She basically described Cloud Strife in that comic... in fact, Cloud is even more feminine than her drawing of Batman. Remind me again how comics and gaming don't appeal to women? But seriously, is it not possible that this is the ideal male physique for some women, and this is for others. Is it possible that her taste in male characters is not necessarily the preference of the majority?
/r/MensRights02/06/14 10:46 PM
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Actually, you're totally correct. The opening sentence was left over from when I started a response to another comment and then copied it over because I thought it fit your point better. If you take out that sentence, then it all makes sense.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 10:28 PM
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Ridiculous. This is the sort of sophomoric response that people cherry-pick to discredit the men's rights movement. Just like "rape culture." Why don't you jump onto SRS and ask some feminists to clean up their fucking language and start using something more wordy and less hostile? Check back and let us know how it works out. Great. Is that who you want to base your activism on? SRS? Why would you want to emulate them even a little bit? I hate the whole "Rape Culture" idea. I think it's ludicrou…
/r/MensRights02/06/14 10:22 PM
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Indeed he did. But this is the opposite situation... When Carlin talked about the evolution from "Shell Shock" to "Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder" he was explaining that the euphemisms were reducing the empathy for soldiers and weakening the response; it made people take "Shell Shock" less seriously as a problem. Conversely, here we are talking about a "pussy pass" which is polarizing in that it makes most people against the idea that women get lighter sentences for the same crime. It comes acro…
/r/MensRights02/06/14 10:16 PM
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That's a preposterously counter-productive thing to say.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 10:05 PM
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I’ve come to learn that women spend most of their social lives with ever-present, unavoidable feelings of vulnerability. and Now, I stand about a finger of tequila under six feet. I work out and would say I’m in decent shape, which means when I’m out alone at night, I rarely ever fear for my safety. I think that these two quotes perfectly illustrate why the concept of "rape culture" is the cause. Rape culture teaches women that they are vulnerable and teaches men that they are not. The issue is …
/r/MensRights02/06/14 08:56 PM
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I seriously think that, if the MRM is going to gain mainstream acceptance, there needs to be a revamping of the slang used around here. The terms "mangina" and "pussy pass" are polarizing and detrimental. Surely we can come up with another name for "self-hating man" and "the act of excusing a woman for an offense that would have carried severe consequences for a man".
/r/MensRights02/06/14 08:33 PM
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You're totally right about this. The problem here is not the joke itself but the hypocrisy of those who protest so loudly so often, but are completely silent whenever the victim is male. Usually when out jokes like OP did, it isn't to say "THIS IS NOT FUNNY!" but it is to say, "Does everyone remember how outraged you got at joke X... well, if you aren't just as outraged about this then you're a hypocrite." I don't care about jokes. I care about abuse of influence and hypocrisy.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 07:25 PM
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Well, to draw the gender hatred parallel, isn't the consensus that she went on a murderous rampage because she thought that she didn't get tenure because she was a woman? In that case she decided to murder a bunch of men because she felt like she was being attacked and victimized by men because she is a woman... Isn't that a fairly strong parallel to Rodger?
/r/MensRights02/06/14 04:18 PM
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Good point, but I think that it goes even further than that. The whole Hawkeye concept neglects the fact that we are a sexually dimorphic species with different secondary sex characteristics that each sex finds appealing in the other. For example, many of the traditionally female poses are designed to show off the hourglass curve of the hip... something men do not have and that women would not find appealing on a man. Likewise, emphasizing breasts as a sexual signal. I looked up the Hawkeye thin…
/r/MensRights01/06/14 05:17 AM
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catcalling is by FAR the most common form of sexual violence. That's a pretty weak definition of "violence" isn't it?
/r/MensRights01/06/14 04:50 AM
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"The best ways for you to help are to use your privilege to amplify women’s voices" That really sums up my experiences with feminism - don't have an opinion... just be quiet and let the women talk. I'm 100% for equal rights for women, but I don't know how a man can have self-respect and call himself a "feminist" if that is how he is valued by the movement.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 04:46 AM
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Totally. I have had more than a handful of friends who were robbed or beaten or hospitalized walking alone at night. A few were even attacked and robbed by young women (in stark contrast to the "women should fear men" stereotype). Funny... thinking back, I can't actually recall any instances where a female friend was attacked. But I know a few guys who ended up needing serious facial/dental surgery from getting "knock-out-gamed" or just straight-up fucking jumped in a bad part of town. Clearly w…
/r/MensRights01/06/14 01:19 AM
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Yes! Death threats! Now, if I understand how gender politicking works, you will get $160,000 from Kickstarter for doing basically nothing...
/r/MensRights31/05/14 04:11 AM
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Because women only care about men insofar as they need men That's a bullshit generalization and you know it. This subreddit spends a lot of time talking about the apparent "empathy gap" between men and women, but your comment is nonsense and extreme. Do not be fooled, women do not love us in the same way we do them. Take your bullshit elsewhere.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 03:36 PM
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This is /r/mensrights not /r/funny. And you should know that because you are OP...
/r/MensRights30/05/14 03:31 PM
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Cool. Thanks.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 01:28 PM
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And why was that removed from the front page of /r/videos?
/r/MensRights30/05/14 01:20 PM
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There is a context-dependency for whether "Not all men are like that" is appropriate or not. For example, it's upsetting if someone tries to talk down someone speaking about their own personal experiences. I've seen this: "I'm a woman who was assaulted and it was very traumatic." And someone will jump in with, "Not all men assault women." That's a terrible place to say something like that. The discussion was about her issue, and not about everyone. However, you also see this, "How come only wome…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 09:55 PM
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Replying to my own comment to say that I did a google search for "bodyforwife" and "bodyforhusband" just to see what would come up. "bodyforwife" top hit is that guy's twitter. "bodyforhusband" top hit is this quote: "The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband." I think that explains why these are not particularly good twitter names...
/r/MensRights29/05/14 08:24 PM
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Aha. Yes. That is the problem. The author carefully refers to it as an "anti-sexual assault" campaign, hoping that an uninformed reader will miss the parallel (just like you, an informed reader, did). It's not by accident that you didn't see the mention.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 08:21 PM
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What? It's right in the quote I posted...
/r/MensRights29/05/14 07:53 PM
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His twitter: @bodyforwife That seems to explain an awful lot. For people who didn't "get" why his twitter name was illuminating: Imagine if a woman went by "bodyforhusband". People would think that she was being manipulated and controlled. People would call the name "misogynistic".
/r/MensRights29/05/14 07:33 PM
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The article is incredibly ironic. Men’s Rights Canada made headlines again recently with their classless response to an anti-sexual assault campaign called “Don’t be that guy.” Posters went up across the nation implying women aren’t punished enough for infanticide, stating, “Women can stop baby dumping. “Don’t be that girl.” This was a follow up of the same campaign from last year alleging many women made false rape accusations because they felt guilty over a one-night stand. Can he not see that…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 04:36 PM
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Any time a discussion of the friend zone comes up I'm compelled to post the following exchange that I had on the subject: People who talk about the friend zone act like it's men just upset that they can't sleep with one particular woman. The friend zone is about unrequited love. It's about spending a lot of time with someone who you are in love with, but they will never love you back. And you can't move on because that person is your friend... and you would rather spend time with that person as …
/r/MensRights28/05/14 08:12 PM
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They are intentionally misleading people to believe that "Men's Rights" is actually just "Pick Up Artist" forums.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 04:35 PM
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Perhaps Wheaton isn't doing that on purpose, but there are definitely people out there who are trying to create an irrevocable mental association between those three. And if Wheaton isn't doing it himself, he is being mislead by others to do so.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 04:24 PM
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The reason given afair was that the possibility of pregnancy for the girl made her the 'victim' and he the guilty party. That only makes sense if she was going to be wholly responsible for the child for the rest of her life and he had no responsibility for it. If he is on the hook for child support, then they are both victims.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 04:19 PM
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So the headline is right by accident then, because the rest of it is nonsense and doesn't support your point at all...
/r/MensRights27/05/14 05:55 PM
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Isn't Rodger half-White and half-Asian? Doesn't that make him exactly as white as Barack Obama or Drake?
/r/MensRights27/05/14 02:59 PM
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As I just learned first-hand. You are "derailing" whenever you say that something happens to men too. It goes like this: Woman: How come problem X only ever happens to women. It never happens to men. Man: That's awful it happened to you. But it does also happen to men. It happened to me. Woman: Stop derailing the conversation and making it about men's problems. This is a discussion about women.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 02:52 PM
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Yeah, but I wasn't exactly doing a "flip the sexes". I was showing how the logic of the argument eats itself...
/r/MensRights24/05/14 03:08 AM
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I really like your point but I'm afraid that, based on this writing, you have missed mine... I wasn't actually defining the goals of feminism or men's rights; I was exposing the wordplay trick that feminists use to assert that everyone who isn't a bigot is a feminist. That said, I'm an egalitarian too. And I think that, from the discussions I've had with women's studies majors, I wholeheartedly agree that academic feminism's fights are designed to increase its power and influence. I mean, what i…
/r/MensRights24/05/14 03:06 AM
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"If all "feminism" means is the belief in the equality of the sexes..." It's a simple word game they are playing. Watch this: "Men's Rights is the drive towards absolute equality of the sexes." There! Now it is defined. So now you can ask anybody, including feminists, if they are a supporter of the Men's Rights movement. If they say "no" then you can simply point out that they support hate and sexism because Men's Rights means "equality". They will, of course, respond either: 1) If it's for equa…
/r/MensRights23/05/14 05:58 PM
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But how could it be any more obvious that we still live in a patriarchal world when feminism is a bad word? Alright, let's follow that logic for a second, shall we? What is more accepted in mainstream society - feminism or men's rights? Feminism is, obviously... By the logic of the original quote, we live in a matriarchal society because men's rights is such a bad word... right?
/r/MensRights23/05/14 05:46 PM
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I know what you're getting at, but the implicit assumption of the billboard slogan is that boys do not respect women as a group by default. That they will grow up and be chauvinists unless they are explicitly taught to respect women. That's why that billboard exists. So here's the message that children get: Girls: You're smart. You can do anything you want. You should "have it all". "Who run the world? Girls!" -Beyonce Boys: You must respect women. You are a problem.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 06:37 PM
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Right. Exactly. And any time a sign is put up that says that boys should treat women differently they are promoting sexism! I don't know how people don't see this.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 06:34 PM
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When people come to this subreddit, this is the type of post that should be at the very top: insightful and thought-provoking articles.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 07:22 AM
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Teach your child to respect everyone. Was that really so hard?
/r/MensRights22/05/14 07:19 AM
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In all of these sorts of situations, I just sit back and imagine what would happen if we flipped the scenario - what happens if men were using the women's room and preventing a woman from being able to use the facilities? Do you think she would have sympathy of the building manager and law enforcement? Do you think they would use it as an opportunity to cast men as "entitled" and patriarchal? I mean, jesus, there is that whole anti-male website attacking men for sitting with their legs slightly …
/r/MensRights22/05/14 07:16 AM
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Honestly, I think it's worse than you say. Men aren't just told to "man up". We are told that we are terrible people for advocating for boys. We're told that we are misogynists. And that we want to take things away from girls. We get shamed publicly to the point that most of us are afraid to actually reveal our feelings because it would be so damaging to our careers and professional relationships.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 04:09 AM
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A few comments have led me to believe that the article is misleading. I think that I and many others thought that the article was citing two different fitness standards based on the sex of the applicant. It wasn't clear that the complainant had failed the skill component. So, if these comments are correct, my argument here doesn't apply. However, I still think that it applies to situations where there are separate fitness standards for two subpopulations applying for the same job. The fact that …
/r/MensRights16/05/14 09:35 PM
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All that I had to go on was what was written in the article and it the article made it sound like there was lower standards for female candidates. If that isn't the case, then this is not an example of the problem that I was arguing against. But my argument still applies to other physical tests where women have easier standards than men. Or where standards were simply lowered in general to accomadate female candidates. Firefighting for example. And, for the record, I dislike the term "pussy pass…
/r/MensRights16/05/14 09:26 PM
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I was once criticized by a relative for letting my daughter play with a toy vacuum cleaner. It didn’t matter that I stay home with the kids and do nearly all the vacuuming, while my wife earns 100% our family income. This relative was just shocked that I allowed my daughter to play with a symbol of female subjugation. This perfectly explains why every 20-something woman I know has such a dirty home. It's considered sexist to teach girls how to cook and clean. I played with a toy vacuum when I wa…
/r/MensRights15/05/14 07:31 PM
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Very weird that two different styles of fishing would have such similar sounding names... You would think it would lead to a lot of misunderstandings. I mean, it's fine if "weight and wait" sound the same because it's easy to tell what is meant from context. But if someone asked you, "We need to catch some fish, should we go trolling or trawling?" you might have a hard time being understood.
/r/MensRights15/05/14 06:57 PM
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Not at all. Ma'am will get you in trouble with a different group of women. I called a woman ma'am once in a retail setting and she freaked out. "You should never call a woman ma'am!" she admonished me. On the other hand, you can call any guy "sir" and he won't get upset. I've also been called "dude", "bro", "pal", "man", in various similar contexts and never ever heard a problem. Basically, there are people out there - in my experience, they're almost all women - who just want to get mad at shit…
/r/MensRights15/05/14 06:26 PM
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I'm totally with you on this topic. I think that these sorts of jokes are harmless whether they are about men or women or any other chunk of the population. But here's the problem: if there was a similar sign aimed at women there would be uproar and protests and twitter campaigns. People would be boycotting the chain of stores until a formal apology was given and the responsible parties were fired. So I am not "outraged" by the sign itself. I am not saying "You would take down the woman one, so …
/r/MensRights15/05/14 05:51 PM
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Horrifically, one tweeter wrote: 'Slut you think I won't choke no whore til her vocal chords won't work in her throat no more.' That's from an Eminem song... I'm reminded of that Duke Lacrosse guy who paraphrased American Psycho in an email and had his life totally ruined. Most days you would be able to reference a very popular movie and nobody would care... people make American Psycho references on reddit all the time. That guy just picked the world's worst day to make a pop-culture reference.
/r/MensRights15/05/14 03:53 PM
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No no no no. Internet "trolling" comes from the fishing term "trolling", which is dragging a lure through the water to get fish to bite. The analogy is that the "hooked lure" is a comment or action that is designed to hook the attention of someone else in order to get a reaction. So using the term "rape" is not trolling if you just threaten someone just to intimidate them. That's abuse. Using the term "rape" for trolling could be going to a feminism forum using it in a metaphorical sense - "I to…
/r/MensRights15/05/14 03:49 PM
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how could they not even google that. Well, the author doesn't know what trolling is, so I'm not really surprised that there are other glaring errors from a lack of internet and pop culture savvy.
/r/MensRights15/05/14 03:40 PM
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Why does every tech article from a non-tech source always seem like it's written by your 70 year-old grandmother? "Trolling" has nothing to do with a mythical "troll" and everything to do with fishing. Trolling, in fishing, is dragging a hooked lure through the water to attract fish to "bite" so you can reel them in. On the Internet, the lure is a comment that is designed to grab attention and get other commenters to "bite".
/r/MensRights15/05/14 03:38 PM
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Reductio ad absurdum: A) Women are generally smaller and weaker than men. In order to prevent a bias against female candidates, they have to rescue a smaller person during evaluation than men. It is acceptable that a female candidate is less capable of rescuing a large adult man in order to prevent discrimination. B) Men with achondroplasia (Example) are smaller and weaker than women. In order to prevent a bias against achondroplastic candidates, they have to rescue a smaller person during evalu…
/r/MensRights15/05/14 03:21 PM
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The thing that stood out to me in the video was Jenny McCarthy interjecting that she would attack a man for saying something rude about her sister. How is that okay? What could her brother-in-law say that would justify becoming violent like that? Why does she think that it's okay to physically attack someone for saying something rude? Think about what would happen if there was a "man show" and a guy said that he would beat up his brother's wife for "disrespecting her husband." There would be pit…
/r/MensRights14/05/14 07:02 PM
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That's frustrating, but fair enough. I guess I shouldn't be surprised by their myopic response, as it is typical. The problem for all these debates is just nomenclature. What is meant by the term "gamer"? Or "core gamer"? Or "hardcore gamer"? Or "casual"? I've heard people say that "my mom plays Farmville for 6 hours a day and has spent $1000 on Candy Crush! Doesn't that make her way more hardcore than a guy who only spends $100 a year on Steam sales?" Regardless of how you slice it, the Farmvil…
/r/MensRights30/04/14 04:21 AM
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EDIT: You should post this. Probably here, /r/games, /r/truegaming... The gamer demographics misconception needs to die. If you don't post it... I might do it... That's awesome. It never occurred to me to use facebook fandom as evidence, but that's a pretty good approximation for actual viewership. I don't know why people in other subreddits refuse to be pragmatic about this. The "50% of gamers are women" stat is such an oversimplification. I have an expensive gaming computer, read gaming magazi…
/r/MensRights29/04/14 02:58 PM
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The "male privilege" of male-centered storylines despite the "50% of gamers are women" stat is just terribly misleading. Whenever that stat is calculated, they lump everyone who "plays games" together, so a multiple-console-owner is lumped in with an iPhone-only Candy Crusher. Are we really meant to believe that the Dark Souls fanbase is 50% female? Does anybody have some real data on this? Maybe some plots?
/r/MensRights28/04/14 08:50 PM
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I guess I was addressing a few independent hypotheses simultaneously... When I was talking about "demographics", I was referring to age, sex, and race. It just seemed so bizarre to me the idea: "Look at how this subreddit I don't like is untrustworthy because it is young, male, and white..." compared to the rest of reddit which is also young, male, and white... said by a white guy...
/r/MensRights15/04/14 03:32 PM
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Just to play devil's advocate, I'm not really surprised by the "conservative vs. liberal" stat based on the fact that there has been a lot of outrage over Democrats abusing "pay gap" statistics for political gain. I'm not a fan of either party, but it's hard to expect people in this community to vote Democrat when the party is still disingenuously using the "wage gap" for political gain, and the president is calling the huge female majority in higher education a "victory for America". I could be…
/r/MensRights15/04/14 03:04 PM
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I know you were pissed off, but I think that sounds like you were being a dick. It is seriously not the end of the world to take the women's order first. He shouldn't have said that you should show some respect, but if you were that upset about it you should have just said so to his face, rather than writing a little passive-aggressive note like a grouchy old lady. As I understand it, waiters have a system for remembering who ordered what... and if he always takes the order in a certain way, the…
/r/MensRights24/03/14 04:55 AM
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Honestly, I don't think either version is "sexist". I'm fine with satire pieces. I have a sense of humor, even if I don't find this particular piece very funny. My problem is that these types of jokes only happen attacking men, but attacking women considered totally unacceptable... and the "twitter backlash" would be overwhelming. It's very much akin to the idea that making jokes about Christians, Atheists, and Mormons, is all very fair-game, but making jokes about Islam is censored like crazy (…
/r/MensRights24/03/14 04:49 AM
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Women are "the primary victims of war", after all. They have to deal with the sadness of knowing that all the men have been brutally killed...
/r/MensRights20/03/14 08:52 PM
1

Could you please elaborate? Are you saying that Japan demonstrates a definitive causal link between increased wealth and increasing the education of the female population? As well, is the radically reduced birth rate not a sign that Japan has obtained short-term gains at the cost of long-term?
/r/MensRights14/03/14 03:10 AM
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To me, the most likely explanation is the opposite of what is typically implied: as a country becomes more wealthy, it can increase the amount of education given to the female population.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 03:08 AM
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Ah. Well, it did end up in my inbox, which is why I thought the shot was fired at "OP"... I agree that the outrage seems hypocritical, but I think that it makes more sense when viewed through a slightly wider lens: I think that the issue is that there are many here who are not offended by the idea of a sketch mocking men's rights... they are more offended by the hypocrisy of the sketch itself. For example, Dunham has been outspoken about "body shaming"... and yet this sketch featured a men's rig…
/r/MensRights10/03/14 05:20 AM
1

Fuck SNL, fuck their third-wave-feminist liberal progressivism bullshit, and fuck their ignorant ass feminists writers for even thinking this is worth putting on television. I'm appalled. Thanks for undermining the whole point of my post...
/r/MensRights10/03/14 05:09 AM
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I'm genuinely interested in what was hypocritical in what I wrote... unless that wasn't directed at me?
/r/MensRights10/03/14 02:16 AM
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Thanks. I made the thread here: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1zy7qe/to_those_who_have_arrived_here_for_the_first_time/
/r/MensRights09/03/14 06:21 AM
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Let me just devil's advocate here for a second... Louis CK caught a bunch of flack during the Daniel Tosh controversy for saying, "Feminists and comedians are natural enemies - feminists can't take a joke and comedians can't take criticism." (And for those keeping score, that's a double-burn on feminists for being both humorless and hyper-critical). I really don't want MRAs to cultivate a reputation, like social justice warriors, for being shrill, humorless complainers who jump onto twitter at t…
/r/MensRights09/03/14 06:15 AM
3

That is so dishonest. People who see data presented in an infographic like that will see "women make 42% less" and not bother to think about the implications of the data. I bet men who work part time make at least "42% less" than British men too. Is that how deceitful "International Women's Day" is willing to be in order to sway public opinion? Let's not forget that most of the time people use "International Men's Day" to remind us alternately how shitty we are and that we don't spend enough tim…
/r/MensRights09/03/14 05:47 AM
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Exactly. And they seem to have a trump card which is that anyone who makes legitimate criticisms of their arguments is labeled a misogynist. Have you seen how well-known members of the gaming community like Wil Wheaton and Adam Sessler have hated on this subreddit?
/r/MensRights22/02/14 02:08 PM
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So it's women paying men alimony that will finally convince society that alimony laws are unfair? I can't help but think that this smacks of the whole "male disposability" concept that this subreddit is always on about: Men are victims of something for a very long time and nobody does anything... but then it starts to affect women and suddenly it's a huge injustice. I'm reminded of the story from a few months ago where there was huge concern about the massive increase in the rate of women's work…
/r/MensRights07/02/14 05:38 PM
1

Wait... are you undermining the severity of killing an unborn child? Holy fucking shit... who is upvoting this garbage? Look... I get the idea that it isn't the same as murdering an actual person, but holy fuck...
/r/MensRights31/01/14 02:25 PM
1

Here is what I don't understand: Why not simply use the metric "total miles driven per month" to set the insurance rates? Women who drive as much as an average man should pay the current "male rate". Men who drive as little as the average woman should pay the current "woman rate". Why are they using gender as a proxy for "miles driven" when they can just use "miles driven" directly?
/r/MensRights30/01/14 06:39 PM
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Misleading title. He was jailed for violating a restraining order. Read the article. The issue is not a men's rights issue; it is a legal / technology issue. The problem was the the man supposedly sent a Google+ invite to a woman who had a restraining order restricting him contacting her. That is why he was arrested. The controversy has to do with the assertion that the invite was sent automatically by Google and not by him. The controversy has nothing to do with men's rights. The title suggests…
/r/MensRights10/01/14 06:19 PM
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Very sorry /u/tallwheel. When I copied the quote, it got truncated for some reason and I missed the most important part. The quote explicitly states, " ...with 99.9% of females falling below the male mean." Thanks for asking so I could make the correction above.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 02:03 AM
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And that willingness to risk one's life at work is one of the reasons that there is a modest pay gap... Do you think that any men would be willing to be crab fishermen if it didn't pay so well, considering it requires no education? Not many people drown in icy waters at the daycare center. And I'm not denigrating people who work with children either. I'm just saying that supply and demand exists for a reason...
/r/MensRights13/12/13 01:49 AM
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Thank you for this comment. I'm really glad that you pointed it out. To be perfectly honest, I think I fall on the egalitarian side of the gender debate, but I've been shut out from /r/feminism and /r/srs etc. for trying to engage in the conversation and play devil's advocate etc. I particularly liked that this was the top comment: If this was a man version the entire world would be in rage. Thanks for the response.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 10:33 PM
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TL;DR - Here is the citation: "The mean effect size for these sex differences in total and upper body muscle mass and strength is about 3, which indicates less than 10% overlap between the male and female distributions, with 99.9% of females falling below the male mean." - Costs and benefits of fat-free muscle mass in men: relationship to mating success, dietary requirements, and native immunity. Lassek and Gaulin. 2009. Evolution and Human Behavior The typical statistic about men and women is s…
/r/MensRights12/12/13 02:37 AM
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Calling the police will help with that too.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 01:01 AM
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I'm confused. I was under the impression that the criticism was that this ad campaign is yet another male-perpetrator/female-victim example. These are UK government-funded ads and every single one shows a male abusing a female. There is a surprising variety to the scenarios and actors. In OP's video the man is controlling the woman's behavior, while in others there is attempted rape. This one is interesting because its ending depends on whether you are a male perpetrator or a female victim. Noti…
/r/MensRights12/12/13 12:10 AM
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You also have to keep in mind society doesn't view women as a threat Well, there is that statistic about the average man being stronger than 99.9% of women...
/r/MensRights11/12/13 10:15 PM
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Yes. This is the point. I would have no problem with a(n obvious) joke like this if it was socially acceptable to make a similar joke at the expense of women. But it's pretty obvious that /r/feminism, SRS, tumblr etc. would lose their shit if this was a gag-gift for men. Funny how conspicuously silent those communities are about violence against men, with all their "equality" grandstanding.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 09:44 PM
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"When we see our male CEOs taking off a day to care for a sick child, then we will be working in a more gender-equal workplace - and a more gender-equal world." -Pamela Smock, a sociology professor at the University of Michigan. Totally ridiculous. If you have two parents and one is a CEO making millions and the other is... well... pretty much anything else, it makes no sense to have the person whose time is worth thousands per hour take care of a sick child instead of someone whose time is wort…
/r/MensRights11/12/13 09:18 PM
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"Young American women are increasingly likely to receive pay nearly equal to their male counterparts, with earnings at 93 percent of men, a new study finds. Still, those women remain as pessimistic as their mothers and grandmothers regarding gender equality." Well maybe that's because people like the President continue to make the false claim that "women (are) paid 77 cents on the dollar for doing the same work as men" for political gain.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 09:04 PM
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Right. And then they'll blame men's lower wages on "lad culture" and "video game addiction" and "lower education" and "inherently inferior intellect for modern jobs"... anything to blame men for their failings rather than a biased system.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 08:57 PM
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Did you not read the article? A jury has convicted a former Mango Elementary school teacher of performing sex acts on a 12-year-old former student. It's literally the first thing mentioned in the article...
/r/MensRights11/12/13 08:48 PM
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This is an excellent video and definitely worth everyone's time. The part that stood out to me is that people are misunderstanding the egalitarian idea that "all toys should be for everyone" with "the pink aisle is evil". It's the same as when we see the role of homemaker vilified by career-driven women who don't wish that lifestyle for themselves. Girls usually like dolls. Boys, by comparison, usually do not. There's nothing wrong with that.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 05:15 AM
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This is my reaction as well. I'm not being facetious here... can someone explain why leaving is not an option if the abuser is asleep? I mean, if someone much bigger and stronger than you is kicking your ass to the point where you think you're about to die, by all means grab a knife and aim for the neck... but, jesus christ, if the person is fucking asleep can you not just walk out the front door and go to the police?
/r/MensRights11/12/13 04:55 AM
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I know that this becomes a bit cliche in this subreddit, but imagine how things would be different if you reverse the genders: A man and woman are christmas shopping together. The woman "disobeys" the man. The man verbally abuses her until she kills herself right there in the middle of the mall. The article would be full of references to spousal abuse and statistics about violence against women... What happens when the man is the victim? Final line of the article: "This is a tragic incident, but…
/r/MensRights11/12/13 01:41 AM
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Women get called gay if they drive a subaru SUV, own two bulldogs, and have sex with women. We all have our cross to bear.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 09:25 PM
3

Yup. It honestly feels like the term "mansplaining" works pretty much the same way that movies and TV show women being censored in the 1950s and earlier. Mad Men: "She's just a woman. She's obviously wrong." Today: "He's just mansplaining. He's obviously wrong."
/r/MensRights10/12/13 08:33 AM
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I honestly can't wrap my head around the irony of that article and the comments. A commenter named "Alan" and another named "johnA" present reasonable counter-arguments to the article and cite their sources. And all the responses say that these two are "mansplaining" which is "ironic" because the article opens by talking about how men will "dominate the conversation, and to make statements that are not based on facts, assuming that people will believe and agree with him because he is male." Of c…
/r/MensRights10/12/13 08:18 AM
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Particularly ironic since she spends the first half of the article complaining about how men will "explain something in an unnecessarily long-winded way, so as to dominate the conversation, and to make statements that are not based on facts, assuming that people will believe and agree with him because he is male." ...is she not just assuming people will agree with her because she is a feminist talking about how men dominate women?
/r/MensRights10/12/13 08:09 AM
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I've heard this "unfair labels" argument many times and I'm flat-out sick of it. If a man was "bossy" you probably wouldn't call him "bossy"... you'd call him a "dick", as in, "Hey Tom. I heard that you had to work over Thanksgiving. Your boss is kind of a dick." Now the interesting thing is that this is "dehumanizing" and "sexual" language. The actual analogue for "dick" or "cock" would be "cunt" or "twat"... but good-fucking-luck not starting World War III for saying that sort of thing about a…
/r/MensRights10/12/13 08:05 AM
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When I was growing up, using conditioner meant you were a homosexual.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 07:47 AM
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And they are pushovers who are too nice, by definition, to be assertive and stand up for themselves themselves.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 12:05 AM
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It's hardly surprising that the average man makes more than the average woman if you include the entire labor force, given that it includes men and women born in the 1940s and thus is a reflection of entirely antiquated education standards. Women who graduate today are making more than men and yet we still have to endure all the talk about sexism in the workplace...
/r/MensRights09/12/13 12:02 AM
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Black Men are men too aren't they? That's a really stupid thing to say. Stupid and manipulative. Of-fucking-course black men are "men too". But by asking that stupid question, you implied that /u/manyrandomtacos did not think that "black men are men too". The point still stands that this isn't a men's rights issue. Every time the law treats a man like shit doesn't necessarily mean that it was a men's rights issue. I found your comment particularly ironic since it seems to mirror that ludicrous f…
/r/MensRights07/12/13 07:08 AM
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MY CAPSLOCK BUTTON IS STUCK TOO!
/r/MensRights04/12/13 07:21 AM
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Even in advertisements?
/r/MensRights02/12/13 03:28 AM
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I'm pretty sure that at least 90% of that deviation is explained by total hours working, exactly. If women want to make as much as men, then they need to work the same number of hours. Are they actually expecting women to make the same money for less work? Or are they intentionally obfuscating the truth by ignoring relevant information? Edit: Also, can we consider the idea that (if it is true that men and women are equal in capability) there are far more women in post-secondary education, and th…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 08:02 PM
1

Thank you. Re-reading your comment, I realize that I didn't give credit to the comic strip for coming up with a fairly simple test that seems very difficult to pass. It was good for a little "huh" moment. Anything beyond that is ridiculous, though.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 04:56 AM
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You've misunderstood me. My comment was not an indictment of facebook. I was trying to say precisely what you said in your clarification. Facebook didn't suddenly have a "change of heart" today and decide that men deserve equal treatment to women on their website... they just reached a point where there had been enough complaints to offset the unhappiness of shutting down the page. And, as each "I hate men" page gets taken down, it will become easier and easier to get them removed. I was just sa…
/r/MensRights15/11/13 04:50 AM
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That's exactly what it is for. "Wow. It's surprising how few movies are able to fit these simple criteria..." Go any further than that and you have gone way beyond the scope of the test. I think that it keeps getting used because it works in the way that its proponents want it to: it fails a lot of movies, especially ones with male protagonists. So its another criterion on which the label of female victimhood can be attached. Honestly, when looking at films and games, there are fewer female "top…
/r/MensRights15/11/13 04:47 AM
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My theory here is that Facebook responds to the crowd. They don't want to remove more posts than they need to, so a single lone complaint about a page isn't sufficient to get it removed unless it's clear that the topic will garner them negative press. For a "I hate women" page, Facebook knows that eventually there will be a lot of Twitter hate and sabre-rattling, so they take them down right away. For "I hate men" it took a little while for them to realize that they would eventually incur the sa…
/r/MensRights14/11/13 03:47 PM
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The most inexcusable thing is that women are suing for equal pay with dangerous jobs, when their jobs are safe and indoors. I'm sure we all remember the case in the UK where indoor daycare workers successfully sued to have their pay increased to be equal to men who were working more-dangerous outdoor labor and construction jobs. The only reason that those men were willing to work those difficult and dangerous jobs is because they pay better! And the reason that they care that they pay better is …
/r/MensRights14/11/13 03:44 PM
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"The Bechdel Test" is stupid. The name evokes some sort of grandiose scientific method, but it's really just from a comic strip. It's manipulative. The test seems like it should be easy to pass, but the structure of cinema actually makes that difficult with a couple of common film occurrences. 1) The film is about relationships. See, if the film is about a man and woman falling in love, the women will be talking about the male character and the man will be talking about the female character. 2) …
/r/MensRights14/11/13 03:38 PM
1

Was there any corroborating evidence that he asked her to shoot? I mean, is it possible that she shot and killed him and then called 911 claiming that he told her to in order to seem innocent?
/r/MensRights13/11/13 08:35 PM
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The best piece of evidence that I can use to support this is that the rate of rape in American universities (if the typical hyperbolic stats are to be believed) is about the same as the most fucked up war-torn regions of Africa. Basically, they're saying that you're just as likely to get raped if you go to an Ivy League school as you are if you lived in a particularly rapey part of the Congo.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 06:38 AM
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That's clearly a little bit of "Go get 'em!" style rhetoric. It's "go get 'em" rhetoric that would be seen as totally unacceptable and sexist if the genders were reversed. This sort of pro-female attitude is a big reason that boys are falling behind in education... it's because every male success is seen as an inequality that needs to be fixed, and every female success is seen as a victory for equal rights that needs to be championed and expanded.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 06:10 PM
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I don't understand how a blind-side deliberate attack to a person's genitals is not considered a more serious crime than pushing the person who is presently attacking your genitals in order to prevent more attacks...
/r/MensRights06/11/13 06:04 PM
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For several reasons: 1) The Bechdel test is not rigorous. For example the recent blockbuster hit, Gravity, fails the test on all three counts despite the movie featuring focusing almost entirely on the story of its female lead. Similarly, a love story would fail because it focuses entirely on the couple. Or the classic "rom com" would fail because all the women are talking about the woman's relationship with the male lead... and all the men are talking about the relationship with the female lead…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 05:59 PM
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The fact that "Gravity" fails all three parts of the test despite being entirely basically the store of a female scientist/astronaut and her will to survive despite incredible odds just shows how pathetic the Bechdel test is. Now an argument could be made (I'm not saying that I agree with it) that the Bechdel test is reasonably-used as a coarse approximation of the film industry's treatment of women as a whole for comparison purposes: eg. "Look! The number of films that pass the Bechdel test has…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 05:39 PM
13

There is a subtle sense of "men don't deserve to be protected", "suck it up men", "man up" etc. throughout Colbert's segment.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 05:35 PM
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But someone who has been doing it for 15 years hardly needs to be retrained. They've figured it out and have a successful business. We're talking about established barbers. There should be a grandfather clause.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 10:55 PM
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Whenever a serious flaw is discovered within a study, it draws the credibility of the entire study into question. What other errors have they made? What other conclusions have they jumped to without the necessary data to back it up? What did they discover that went unreported? Based on a closer reading of the contents of the study, we cannot trust the conclusions that they have announced. The "question 2" controversy is hardly the only problem with the study. I don't trust the authors and thus I…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 08:38 PM
2

Nonsense. You are expressing such a juvenile understanding of adult relationships. A married couple is not always going to have their libidos totally in sync. With work and kids, it's not always possible to have the time to get oneself "in the mood" perfectly every time. Sometimes you're distracted or tired buy you just do it anyways because that makes you a good spouse and you want to make your partner happy... and because you know that your spouse does that for you when the roles are reversed.…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 08:35 PM
2

And not only "begging for sex", but "begging for sex from your spouse". I get that people don't like the idea of "coerced sex". Usually these scenarios are portrayed as heinous when it is two young people and one feels that they are not "ready" to have sex, but the other bullies them into it through emotional manipulation. Coercing consent from someone who isn't emotionally mature enough to have sex isn't the same thing as rape, but it's definitely something to discourage. But talking your wife …
/r/MensRights03/11/13 08:30 PM
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Questionable motives and methodology are enough for me to discredit the entire study, as far as I'm concerned. I was referring to the fact that the lowest rates were found in Bangladesh where the second question was not asked: The first country to be surveyed was Bangladesh, and the numbers of men admitting rape were lower here than anywhere else. Here, the researchers talking to the men about their relations with partners or former partners asked a question about "forced sex". In the other coun…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 08:27 PM
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Can someone explain why you need a goddamned license to cut someone's fucking hair? How did lawmakers decide that hair cutting was a profession that needed regulation?
/r/MensRights03/11/13 08:13 PM
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Anyone else noticed that only women seem to be allowed to write articles like this in mainstream news sources. Maybe I'm crazy, but I feel like every time I see an article that makes me say, "Wow. I can't believe this got published," it is written by a woman. Don't get me wrong, I think the article is great and I'm happy that there are women who can see both sides of an issue. I'm just wondering whether you need to be a woman to take this side without getting crucified... (Please tell me I'm wro…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 05:51 AM
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The question, as asked, includes a lot more scenarios than "marital rape". It just says that the person "didn't want to". There is a difference between "not being in the mood" but having sex anyways and "refusing to give consent". Who among us hasn't been in a long term relationship and been "raped" by the definition in the question? Most people I know have had sex with their partner when they "didn't want to" because they weren't in the mood. I know that I have and I know that my partner has. W…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 02:17 AM
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What I can't figure out is why the guy is holding an "I need feminism" parody sign. So that sign is a parody... of I need feminism parody signs... which are a parody of I need feminism signs. That is too many layers, man.
/r/MensRights02/11/13 08:01 PM
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Hawking? That white, heterosexual, cis-gendered scum? He needs to check his privilege!
/r/MensRights02/11/13 07:57 PM
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I don't see a single transgendered or asexual person either. Also, the picture appears to be incredibly ableist. The photo should be entirely non-white, transgendered scientists in wheelchairs.
/r/MensRights02/11/13 05:37 PM
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That definition trivializes rape. It proves that the researchers cared more about sensationalism and media exposure than they did about the truth. I'm glad that the media is calling them out now. I hope that they get discredited. Because, otherwise, the researchers got exactly what they wanted from that little twist of intellectual dishonesty.
/r/MensRights02/11/13 03:57 PM
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Furthermore, the UN campaign neglected to show the sexism that appears when searching for things about men: If you search "Husbands are" the top result is "idiots". If you search "Husbands should" the top result is "submit to their wives". If you search "Boys are" the top result that isn't a song lyric is "pigs". If you search "Men can" the top result is "stop rape". If you search "A man is" the top result is "a rape supporter". There is tons of shit when you search like this. The only differenc…
/r/MensRights31/10/13 05:33 PM
3

Or "Why won't..." turning up: "Why won't my parakeet eat my diarrhea?"
/r/MensRights31/10/13 05:26 PM
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Also "year women received the right to vote" means nothing if you don't compare it to the "year men received the right to vote". That's a great point. Any time they make these comparisons, they always make it seem like "men", and not an aristocratic class or people, had all the power throughout history. Just to add to the point, they need to compare it to the time that all free men could vote... not just the point when land-owners could vote. For a time in many nations one vote was cast per hous…
/r/MensRights31/10/13 08:12 AM
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HOLY SHIT! I think I know why they aren't using a real "equality" index which rewards a 1:1 male/female enrollment ratio... If they did, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan would be in the top 10 "Most Equal" nations!! If you don't believe me, look it up: they have a ratio of 1.01, 1.03, and 0.91. All three of those are much more "equal" than the USA's 1.41! That is illuminating...
/r/MensRights31/10/13 08:07 AM
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This is an excellent observation and deserves to be at the top of /r/mensrights. It actually makes me sad that excellent content like this is often lost in the shuffle while image-macro-like posts like this are at the top week after week... Can you please provide a link to the actual report, please? What organization created this report? Who wrote it? Who commissioned it? I think that this would make an excellent "TIL" post, if phrased skillfully. People need to see the incredible bias in statis…
/r/MensRights31/10/13 08:00 AM
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I think the point here is the hypocrisy. Feminism seems to be hypercritical of everything. They police culture incessantly. And yet there is a "feminst haunted house" that is about severed penises... Now I realize that these are not all the "same woman" nor is feminism a single united organization with one collective voice... but it is hard to ignore the silence from the social justice warrior-types who show up in droves (in Toronto, no less) in order to tell people to "shut the fuck up". Surely…
/r/MensRights31/10/13 07:04 AM
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I honestly think that the type of commercial you just posted is the present day version of 1950s husbands berating their wives for serving bad coffee. We'll look back in 20 years and think, "I can't believe we had an entire generation that grew up on ads about how incompetent husbands are."
/r/MensRights30/10/13 07:13 PM
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Honestly, it feels like statistics on rape are so unreliable I don't even know what to believe about them. When you start calling "coerced intercourse" "rape" then you have completely watered down the definition to the point where the statistics have become meaningless.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 01:00 AM
3

Yup. 9 times out of 10, those are just comments trolling for negative attention. By posting it here, we give that commenter exactly what he wants. This post is just encouraging more comments like this... Being hypersensitive is what makes people troll for reactions from feminists. We don't want to end up the same way...
/r/MensRights21/10/13 01:27 AM
2

I know this is a bit off-topic, but I'm really glad to see Serene Branson in front of the camera after that bizarre Grammy-reporting incident where people thought she had a stroke on live TV.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 09:11 PM
7

It may be legal to do that, but it shouldn't be. That's a George Costanza-meets-Jigsaw-level "leave-behind".
/r/MensRights18/10/13 09:06 PM
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I don't think that he realized that he was giving them permission to tear his car apart when permission to enter his car was qualified. "Do I have permission to enter your car to retrieve the boy's bag." The only thing he consented to was retrieving the bag. It's like if I asked you to pay me back the 5 bucks I loaned you and then I just stole your wallet and spent all your money. You'd be like "Dude! I only said you could have the 5 bucks back." And then I'd just say, "By giving me permission t…
/r/MensRights18/10/13 09:04 PM
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I wonder how that woman feels about life expectancy stats between men and women... How long have we been tolerating that?
/r/MensRights18/10/13 09:48 AM
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Well, the big problem that I have with the present system is the idea that there is this division of labor going on within the marriage. I'll stick with man working / woman home... but it works the same way when you flip it around: The man's job is to earn the majority of the money for the family. The woman's job is to do most of the domestic tasks. When they break up, they expect the man to keep up his half of the division of labor that was set up at the start of the marriage. But what about th…
/r/MensRights18/10/13 09:46 AM
7

Several prominent female personalities in Canada have voiced their opinion in favour of bringing back the original lyrics of "O Canada". No they haven't. They want to change it to something new. Current lyric: "In all thy sons command." Original lyric: "In all thou dost command." Feminist lyric: "In all of us command." I can't be the only one who thinks that the feminist lyric 1) is different than the original lyric, and 2) makes no sense. But why stop at just that line? Did you notice the "able…
/r/MensRights18/10/13 04:39 AM
9

Nobody does. That's the point. She posted a story where she murders a real person, which in and of itself is a tacit endorsement. The ABC story implies that the entire men's rights movement is somehow responsible for anonymous troll comments directed at Sarkeesian. But Sarkeesian herself has made such comments without the veil of anonymity. She posted a story where she murders a real person because of her social agenda! I'm sorry if I wasn't clear, but I wasn't saying that I thought that they we…
/r/MensRights18/10/13 01:23 AM
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It's stupid to take the Pitchford story seriously as a death threat. Of course. That was my point. Reductio ad absurdum.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 01:03 AM
2

Precisely. That's the point. ABC is acting like it's shocking or unbelievable that people troll for feminist rage online. And yet the victim in their own story has posted a short story where she murders an actual person (not a made-up character) to further her political agenda.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 01:02 AM
1

Exactly. If anonymous online comments are accepted as evidence, then everyone is motivated to create fake comments to prove their point. Because they are anonymous, we don't know if they are men, and we don't know if they are sincere.
/r/MensRights17/10/13 11:59 PM
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My commentary is stupid or the post itself is stupid? If you meant the former, I'm interested to know why. If you meant the latter, I posted it to highlight the hypocrisy of ABC's coverage. ABC is acting like random, anonymous troll comments have some sort of "value". I highlighted Sarkeesian's blog post because it shows that ABC's "victim" is doing the same thing as the people they are criticizing.
/r/MensRights17/10/13 08:35 PM
17

How did I use "misleading phrasing"? The title says that she posted the story and then I linked to her blog! There is nothing misleading here. If you click the link it's very obvious what the situation is. Furthermore, whether she wrote it herself or posted and endorsed it on her website is immaterial. You think that I'm trying to discredit her with this post, which I am not. I am criticizing ABC's coverage of the men's rights advocates and Sarkeesian. ABC is acting like some anonymous comment t…
/r/MensRights17/10/13 08:28 PM
17

If you read the title carefully, you'll notice that I never said that she wrote it; I said that she posted it. And she not only posts it, but endorses it as well...
/r/MensRights17/10/13 06:28 PM
5

Honestly, aren't we at the next wave of victimhood? In the "real world" there are countries that are enforcing quotas on female participation in corporate boardrooms, women vastly outnumber and outperform men in education, and young women just leaving college make more money than men. They're out of real-world criticisms... But the new threat is the secret anonymous misogyny that exists online! Men all seem normal, but they are really just pretending... because all men go online anonymously and …
/r/MensRights17/10/13 05:11 PM
6

I like how they dishonestly tie the men's rights movement to anonymous troll comments that could have come from anywhere... How is that journalism?
/r/MensRights17/10/13 05:05 PM
11

ABC news, stop trying to censor the voices of victims because they are men and boys! Bad move. This just makes you sound crazy. Nobody knows they keep deleting your comment. You should open by saying, "This is the third time that I am posting this comment as it keeps getting deleted without explanation. I am deeply troubled by the idea that ABC is censoring the discussion of their article by deleting dissenting opinions, or silencing victims' voices simply because they are men or boys." See how …
/r/MensRights17/10/13 05:02 PM
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It's actually scary how much of a "feminist industry" has been built up that absolutely requires female victimhood to be sustained. It's essentially a business and their product is women's status in society. It's the reason that they keep saying that "women have it worse than ever" while simultaneously bragging about how "women are more successful than ever and the end of men has arrived". They have to show that they are producing results and yet imply that there is a long way to go. If they can…
/r/MensRights17/10/13 04:56 PM
3

Such a simple way to illustrate why the premise of that article is complete bullshit.
/r/MensRights17/10/13 04:50 PM
45

See? How does a major news organization like ABC not get this?
/r/MensRights17/10/13 04:46 PM
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EDIT: Excuse me, but I should have linked to the ABC story post for context. When I posted this, it was the top post on /r/mensrights so I assumed everyone would have read the story to understand what I am referring to... Can someone please explain to ABC that, in order to report on an issue impartially, they cannot excuse Sarkeesian's overt violent threats as "satire" or "a joke" if they are going to attribute random anonymous troll comments to the MRM? Let's not forget that "false flag" attack…
/r/MensRights17/10/13 04:44 PM
3

Protected by the anonymity of the Internet, men feel free to post hateful and violent comments. Posts such as "I really wouldn't mind shooting a [expletive] dead in the face..." This is the thesis of the hit piece on the MRM and Anita Sarkeesian is featured as the main "victim". Did nobody inform ABC that Sarkeesian posted a murder-fantasy story where she murders a prominent video game designer? http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1kdbkg/anita_sarkeesian_posts_violent_murder_fantasy_of/ …
/r/MensRights17/10/13 04:28 PM
3

Can I get some context?
/r/MensRights11/10/13 03:49 PM
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I'm certain that is to placate those who would attack CNN publicly for writing such an article. "How dare CNN focus on male victims when women have it worse!" I thought the end quote was excellent because it implies a very subtle point... "Whenever you talk about male survivors, women have it statistically worse, but it's not a competition -- and we each need our time to talk about it." This highlights the idea that there are male victims who are not getting their voice heard because of the focu…
/r/MensRights11/10/13 01:17 AM
0

I'm honestly not surprised that students are rebelling against the emergency phones, since they seem to be a symbol of anti-male bias.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 07:33 PM
3

She does not need to be "saved". Who said anything about "saving" anyone? You do realize that the best and most honorable way to expand an equality-based worldview is to win people over with calm rationality, right? And if you "explain", you're gonna lose and waste your time and energy. Not at all. Most women are not gender studies majors or social justice warriors. Women are increasingly identifying as non-feminist. If you spot an egregious double-standard or anti-male sentiment, just explain t…
/r/MensRights01/10/13 04:37 PM
3

"Unrelated thing"? The title of the post is "I don't think I'm going to date this girl any more..."
/r/MensRights01/10/13 01:53 PM
0

Honestly, it is really not as offensive as you're making it out to be.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 01:52 PM
2

It's hard to discern exactly what happened because there are so many conflicting reports. My recollection is that Tosh told a joke about rape. A feminist began heckling him from the audience, shouting that he shouldn't make jokes about rape and that rape jokes are never funny. Tosh told another rape joke aimed at her to try to embarrass her into stopping her heckling. She left and wrote about it. For some reason it really caught on and was widely reported. The comedy community was split about ho…
/r/MensRights01/10/13 01:51 PM
9

Dude... what I just said is the epitome of men's rights.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 05:01 AM
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Without a doubt there would be cries of "rape culture", but that's my point. If you just dump the girl, then she just says, "Turns out my ex-boyfriend is some sort of crazy, hyper-sensitive, irrational MRA." But if you explain the double standard that she didn't even know she had, then you've changed another mind, and that is a good thing.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 03:25 AM
1

Whether he "believes" it or not, it's still worth analyzing. I wasn't impugning Rogan's beliefs - I was saying that the joke and how it was received are revealing of the reaction our culture has to men and women, and sex.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 03:06 AM
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There is great power in that. And I appreciate that nothing should be sacred in comedy. However, I think that people like Jon Stewart really abuse this. Stewart confronts reporters and politicians to their face about supposed indiscretions, but then hides behind his comedian status any time someone calls him on his hypocrisy. He just says, "Are you really going to compare yourself to a show on Comedy Central?" Maybe Rogan's comment was just a joke. And, like I said, I don't think that any backla…
/r/MensRights01/10/13 03:05 AM
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Yup. Don't dump the woman over something like this... You don't want to develop the sort of over-sensitive reputation that we associate with feminism, do you? If she says something that's over the line, then use it as an opportunity to explain your perspective and grow together as a couple...
/r/MensRights01/10/13 01:57 AM
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I wrote this the last time this Joe Rogan podcast was posted: Shortly after having a discussion about men's rights issues, he says that a guy who claimed he was raped by being forced to take viagara and have sex is lying because "if you don't want to have sex, you can't get hard." He essentially believes a very antiquated definition of consent, which says that involuntary reflexes like erections or vaginal lubrication are tantamount to consent. He also suggests that a guy who is forced to have s…
/r/MensRights01/10/13 01:10 AM
1

It's the same way that "she invented" got auto-corrected to "he invented" because of the google algorithm rather than overt sexism on the part of google. That said... the she invented "error" got fixed. And we're still waiting on this one...
/r/MensRights27/09/13 06:12 PM
5

At 1:03:15 Rogan's guest talks about a man who was "forced to penetrate" raped by gunpoint. Rogan's response is, "Maybe that guy had a good time that night." Now, I think that response is very illuminating. Even in the midst of a productive discussion of how we turn a blind eye to male victims, Rogan's default response/joke is about how he might have enjoyed being assaulted and that he's a "bad motherfucker if he can get hard with a gun in his face." Now I don't begrudge Rogan for this joke. I d…
/r/MensRights27/09/13 05:37 PM
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There are women who are signing up for SEAL training... they just can't make the cut. But that's kinda beside the point from a "criticizing feminism" point of view. Feminists fought very hard to expand women's roles in the military. They wanted women to be a part of combat operations. Sure... there are few women who want to do that job, but the point is that feminists are not fighting to keep women safe and away from the action. They fought very hard to increase the risk that women encountered.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 08:32 AM
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Well, in fairness, there has been a pretty big push from feminists to allow women to serve in combat operations. Agree or disagree with that move, you have to admit that there isn't hypocrisy on that issue.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 07:18 AM
2

The thing that many people don't understand is how comedians build up and then cash in the "credit" they earn from their audience. It's very carefully monitored by a comedian. If you listen to interviews, most "offensive" comedians like Louis CK or Bill Burr will say that they have many jokes which will only work later in the set after they have built up some credit with the audience (and this is why some comedians get into trouble when a joke is posted on youtube without the context of the show…
/r/MensRights25/09/13 07:30 PM
3

Something like this?
/r/MensRights24/09/13 03:28 AM
8

I'm a man and I've heard the "watch your drink" thing a million times over. "Watch your drink at a party." "Never leave your drink unattended." "Don't go to the bathroom and leave your drink outside." That is just good advice. The thing about "don't dress this way" is has been shown to be untrue. There is no correlation between dress and rape. However, it is related to a number of old-fashioned beliefs that affect men and women: The reason that men are warned about roofies is because they are us…
/r/MensRights23/09/13 11:28 PM
11

Men don't need to lock the door when they leave the house because their houses are not robbed. Most criminals are men and they only rob women's houses because they are all part of the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights23/09/13 11:21 PM
1

The thing that I always think is interesting in these situations is the realization that women need the "don't hit a woman" rule. Because even 2 on 1 it was pretty clear that the man could easily have overpowered and seriously injured both of the women who were attacking him. And he should have been completely justified given the circumstances. He was being beaten by 2 people who were using objects as weapons. But he didn't. Because A) he knew that he would be in serious legal trouble if he defe…
/r/MensRights23/09/13 11:17 PM
2

Interesting that the article was written about "aggressive males" even though we were talking about a predominantly female hormone...
/r/MensRights20/09/13 06:24 PM
9

The most damning result is that the question about "coerced sex" was added after the first results came in (and likely were too low to be worthy of publication). Initially, they only asked a question about "forced sex", and likely didn't get the numbers that they wanted. So they added the "coerced" sex question in order to get the disingenuously high numbers that they wanted. Let's be honest - a study that says that 1% of Asian men have committed rape is not going to get headlines or funding. A …
/r/MensRights20/09/13 06:21 PM
8

Honestly, it feels more nefarious than a "lack of attention to detail". This "violence against women" organization profits based on the narrative that women are victims and men are perpetrators. It seems like they are purposely obfuscating the truth by summarizing a table that says that both women and men are victims, and only mentions female victims; and they hide the male victims by pretending that they are female victims. It's very disconcerting that domestic violence organizations have such …
/r/MensRights20/09/13 04:43 PM
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TL;DR - A report from a "Violence Against Women" organization reported that 1.2 million women were victims of domestic violence in Canada, when their raw data indicates that this was the total number of victims of both sexes. In fact, the 1.2 million was almost equally distributed between male and female victims.
/r/MensRights20/09/13 04:32 PM
1

My favorite example of this phenomenon is Pretty In Pink: What I've gleaned from plot synopses is that the film is about a girl who is in love with some handsome rich guy named Blane and she has a best friend named "Duckie", who is a nerd who loves her for who she is... Well, the script as written originally had the girl eventually realize that the best friend guy was the right one for her after all; she stops pursuing the rich, handsome guy and falls in love with her best friend. "Awww..." They…
/r/MensRights19/09/13 08:02 AM
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I think the simplest explanation for the people who complain about the male "privilege" of sitting with one's leg's slightly apart is twofold: 1) They have been raised to dislike men, and 2) They lack empathy.
/r/MensRights18/09/13 07:22 PM
5

They were quotes from South Park and The Office on his personal twitter account! If I said, "Is there a term besides 'Mexican' that you prefer? Something less offensive?" does that mean I'm suddenly an anti-hispanic racist? Should I be fired for quoting an Emmy Award-winning comedy in my spare time?
/r/MensRights17/09/13 07:31 PM
3

Grounds for dismissal: Being a fan of South Park and The Office; being a man.
/r/MensRights17/09/13 07:28 PM
8

What about things that women love? How many romantic films or TV shows have the heroine fall in love with the impossibly handsome, successful man? The "romance porn" that women consume is just as guilty of setting up inadequacy as male-dominated media...
/r/MensRights17/09/13 07:23 PM
1

Fucking Rape Lions? That sounds worse than the Dick Wolves...
/r/MensRights13/09/13 04:39 AM
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Please join the active discussion here: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1m7b1o/slates_hanna_rosin_feminists_accept_it_the/ This was already posted 17 hours ago. When submitting an article, copy past the URL into the "search reddit" bar on the right. If it already exists, it will direct you to the existing posts; if has not been submitted, then it will direct you to the "submit a link" page with your URL already in place. It's not perfect, but it does help prevent accidental reposts l…
/r/MensRights12/09/13 03:29 PM
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My problem is that the way in which one might define "nurturing" is going to be inherently biased. I know plenty of men who are wonderful fathers and who are nurturing in their own very masculine way. They are attentive to their children. They take the time to teach and the time to listen. They play sports and roughhouse with their kids. They are wonderful parents. But they do not engage in any number of feminine behaviors that many women would classify as "nurturing". Men and women often nurtur…
/r/MensRights10/09/13 11:43 PM
1

I love science but I'm always skeptical of these socially-motivated studies. How do you quantify whether someone is "nurturing"? In the study they said it's from "nurturing activity in the brain", which to me smacks of circular logic... We showed a bunch of people photos of their children and looked at what area of the brain lit up... we will call that the nurturing part of the brain. Now we will show a bunch of people photos of their children and whoever shows more activity in that area is more…
/r/MensRights10/09/13 11:39 PM
7

Somebody show this video to the canadian protestors trying to ban men's rights groups...
/r/MensRights06/09/13 06:03 PM
1

I looked at his comment as a double-burn on feminists; he basically called them humorless whiners. "Feminists can't take a joke," implies that comedians tell jokes and feminists don't have a sense of humor. "Comedians can't take criticism," implies that feminists are overly critical and complain all the time. The second point is more subtle, but it's there. It's a double-burn hidden in his trademark self-deprecating style. Very Louis CK.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 04:04 PM
1

Sounds like you are projecting a lot of your own personal issues into a rather benign joke. I'm sorry to hear about your past problems, but I don't think that there is any evidence of that here.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 03:25 PM
2

It happened on the Daily Show in the midst of the backlash he received for supporting Daniel Tosh after his much-publicized "rape joke" incident: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/07/18/daniel-tosh-rape-joke-are-comedy-and-feminism-enemies.html (2nd paragraph) The full quote is: Comedians and feminists are "natural enemies because feminists can't take a joke, and comedians can't take criticism..." I sort of think that you can't analyze CK's comedy to place his exact beliefs because CK c…
/r/MensRights05/09/13 03:11 PM
1

There is also portrayal of social isolation ("get out of the house free card") and economic control ("12 pack of your favorite beer"), This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say that we sound both humorless and crazy! A "get out of the house free card" is not social isolation! It's an opportunity to go out and socialize with his friends at a time when it is not convenient to do so. The wife going out and buying a 12-pack is not "economic control"! It's just buying a fucking present! Your …
/r/MensRights05/09/13 02:59 PM
2

I agree that sex shouldn't be withheld as a punishment... but there is no evidence here that she is withholding sexual activity as punishment. In fact, that she is willing to do a strip-tease in exchange for him helping take care of their child suggests that they probably have a fun and robust sex life. Jesus. It's just a fucking joke.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 02:42 PM
4

This is just a funny joke and we look like crazy feminists for complaining. Where is the domestic abuse? Edit: Remember when Louis CK said that feminists and comedians are natural enemies because "feminists can't take a joke"? Do we really want to establish that reputation for ourselves too? Humorless, angry men trying to be a culture police? I post here because I want feminists to stop policing culture so much, not because I want to police it more!
/r/MensRights05/09/13 02:28 PM
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Such is his desire for equality, Murray had invited Serena Williams, to play but she said he would beat her “in five minutes”. Isn't the admission that women tennis players are not even close to the same skill level as the men enough to justify paying men more? Let alone the fact that the women are playing less tennis for the same pay, they are much worse at it...
/r/MensRights03/09/13 08:25 PM
3

You know what... I'm glad that I read your comment. I spend a fair amount of time criticizing studies that supposedly support the idea that women are discriminated against. I don't think it's fair to draw conclusions from a study that was not designed to investigate gender differences. However, I think that the idea that men and women reacted differently likely warrants some followup.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 06:27 PM
21

Ah yes... it's the men's fault that she has to go to the Caribbean to have sex with impoverished "beach boys". The last time I read an article about this, the article implied that the 50 year-old women were beautiful and kept in good shape, but weren't interested in the fat, bald, white guys who were their contemporaries... I guess that angle didn't garner the women enough sympathy...
/r/MensRights27/08/13 02:13 PM
2

The argument here seems to be "it's hard to be a woman in computer science" when in fact it should just be "it's hard to be in computer science"! There are thousands of young men entering computer science with exactly the same level of experience... why does being a woman change the fact that it's intimidating to tackle a difficult scientific discipline?
/r/MensRights25/08/13 01:58 AM
2

The thing nobody ever mentions is that adult men and women get into the same number of accidents per mile driven. Men just drive much more than women do. Men are not "less safe"; it's just that men are more likely to get into accidents because they are more likely to be the driver when an accident occurs. Now here is my suggestion: why not set insurance premiums based on the number of miles driven rather than based on the sex of the driver? Men will still end up paying more, on average, because …
/r/MensRights25/08/13 01:50 AM
1

Exactly.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 03:43 PM
9

Yes. That's why I put it in quotes. It was widely mis-reported that it was because of the death threats - but that doesn't change my point, which was that people were using "online death threats" as evidence of widespread misogyny in gaming culture. You cannot have it both ways. If that was evidence of widespread misogyny, then this is evidence of misandry... or anti-anti-feminist hatred... or something... Myself, I'm inclined to believe that people say inflammatory shit online to get a rise out…
/r/MensRights24/08/13 04:55 AM
2

FotC wrote a song about that power...
/r/MensRights23/08/13 10:03 PM
44

Remember when a prominent videogame writer Jennifer Hepler "quit her job at Bioware because she received death threats"? I'm very interested to hear from the people who said that this was proof of the "widespread misogyny in gaming culture"... is this not evidence of the "inherent violence of feminists" or some other such wild conclusion? Now, I could say that this is conclusive proof that feminists are power-hungry and violent... but I will not. I'm going to say exactly the same thing I do ever…
/r/MensRights23/08/13 09:57 PM
0

I'm not sure that I'm parsing this sentence properly... edit: to clarify, I'm not sure I know what you are trying to say. can you rephrase, please?
/r/MensRights23/08/13 09:26 PM
6

I don't know what's happening lately. A lot of bullshit is making it to the front page. People would rather upvote image macros and unsubstantiated stories than actual articles or videos that take more than 15 seconds to view.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 03:42 PM
6

It's just a fucking joke. It's not a men's rights issue.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 02:13 PM
3

Most feminists that I know are upset that male sports are taken seriously and women's sports are not. In their perfect world women's pro basketball would pay the same as men's pro basketball. This is the exact opposite of your theory. Also, the primary fanbase of sports is men; if women wanted to "get off on men in uniforms" there are easier places to do it.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 02:10 PM
1

Jesus. Fine. I thought people were being purposely thick, because the reality is so incredibly obvious. Writing an article and posting pictures in a magazine about trying to normalize a broader range of genitals is not the same as sending an unsolicited text message with a picture of one's genitals. The context and motivation of the photo does matter. The intent of the distributor does matter. Also, I never said I was okay with the vagina-laden magazine cover; in fact, I called the campaign "mis…
/r/MensRights23/08/13 02:33 AM
2

I'm twice the person you'll ever be. Keep up the good work there, champ...
/r/MensRights22/08/13 08:51 PM
4

Precisely. There are enough actual battles to fight that we don't need to waste our time fighting hypothetical ones.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 08:51 PM
6

That is not what the title of this post implies.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 08:49 PM
5

Yeah... but the vagina issue did get pulled. So how is the hypothetical penis article any different?
/r/MensRights22/08/13 07:06 PM
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Don't waste everyone's time with stupid questions.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 07:02 PM
4

Exactly. The reason that these women are trying to create this campaign is because the same morality police who think that penises (especially erect penises) are vulgar, think that labia are vulgar. So images in "classy" adult magazines like Playboy are photoshopped to reduce the size and appearance of labia. It's lead to the feeling that vaginas are "supposed to look like that" and lots of women are having their labia surgically reduced to fit with that ideal of beauty. And it doesn't help that…
/r/MensRights22/08/13 05:56 PM
9

You're jumping to a lot of conclusions here. If men had done it and been expelled, then we'd have a men's rights case. As of right now, you're just making shit up. Knock it off.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 05:48 PM
14

No. This is not the same as sending someone a "dick pick" and you're making us seem stupid by saying so. The purpose of this campaign, however misguided, is to improve female self-image. If a man sends an unsolicited picture of his penis to a woman with the intention of causing arousal, that is a completely different and if you cannot see the difference then I am very disappointed. Downvoted; I'm embarassed that this is the top comment.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 05:46 PM
1

I am merely pointing out that statistics, phrased correctly, can be used as evidence for anything. Forty percent of people know that...
/r/MensRights22/08/13 05:28 PM
1

Just more proof that "victim status" is power in our current culture.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 08:06 PM
-13

Oh come on... don't give me this sort of bullshit. This is starting to sound like a really pathetic circlejerk...
/r/MensRights20/08/13 07:10 PM
7

It's amazing that an entire field of academia is based on an obvious logical fallacy. Every feminist argument relies on the idea that society is discriminating against women... to prove that society discriminated against women!
/r/MensRights20/08/13 06:32 PM
14

The men's rights issue that I took from this is a direct result of the "rape culture" hysteria that our culture is currently experiencing.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 06:21 PM
7

I remember being amazed that they accepted her "abused" after seeing her tell the "hitman" that, not only was she not abused, but the reason that she wanted him dead was because gave her "attitude" and that she wanted to keep everything in the divorce.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 02:44 PM
21

The peer review process is a dangerous double-edged sword. On the one hand, it ensures that any published research is adequately vetted by experts in a field; on the other hand, it is ripe with the potential for abuse. In the hard sciences, an unpopular but potentially correct idea can be unpublishable if a reasonable percentage of researchers are willing to veto the topic. Talk to any researcher and they will have at least one story of being roadblocked in this fashion. But the social sciences …
/r/MensRights17/08/13 08:43 PM
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I blame the interviewer for doing a terrible job. He let her away with a lot of half-truths, manipulative statistics, and misleading answers. This question is just one example. The problem is that he phrased the question in terms of "feelings", which is useless. The question is not, "Do women feel as oppressed..." nor is the question, "Do you feel women are as oppressed..." The question is "Are women as oppressed?" period. You can tell that he is wants to call her on her bullshit, but he keeps l…
/r/MensRights15/08/13 10:54 PM
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Oh yeah. There is no question. But the question as phrased was answered correctly. Gloria Steinem used a lot of sneaky and misleading rhetoric during that discussion, but this was not exactly one of those instances. Her argument is that women in the 1950s just accepted their role and that they didn't feel oppressed filling it. And that's true. The difference is that we achieved "equality" in terms of opportunity some time in the 1980s/1990s (pinpointing an exact moment is difficult) and now wome…
/r/MensRights15/08/13 10:51 PM
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Honestly, that statement in the title is probably true. The question wasn't "are women more oppressed", the question was "do women feel more oppressed." Women from the 1950s would never dream about "feeling oppressed" by the occassional use of the "damsel in distress trope". They would never "feel oppressed" by the statements that started the whole ridiculous "Slut Walk" movement. They would never "feel oppressed" by getting asked to go for coffee at a conference. Women are not oppressed. But th…
/r/MensRights15/08/13 05:19 PM
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Honestly, it's a joke. It's a joke that no matter how bad you think the "sexism" is in Duke games, Aliens Colonial Marines is a worse sin. And I don't think that Sarkeesian has some dark murder fantasy because she posted the story. The point is that she's a hypocrite. She presents a biased, cherry-picked over-analysis of the entire gaming industry, and, in doing so, has set herself a very high standard of what is acceptable to her. You don't get to freak out about Zelda being captured for 1% of …
/r/MensRights15/08/13 04:54 PM
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Just make it a feminist damsel in distress. Duke opens the cell and frees several men and women who thank him profusely. But one woman reacts in anger at the idea of being rescued. "Suit yourself..." And Duke re-locks the cell door.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 04:45 PM
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Maybe this will be unpopular here, I'm not sure. But I agree with what "Ellie" said in that article. That man is a bad sexual partner; he should go to a therapist; he should go to a doctor; he should put more of an effort into satisfying his wife. My only problem with it is that the same advice should be given if the wife is the one who isn't interested in sex. That's the double-standard. But unless "Ellie" suggests to a man that he should just respect the fact that his wife isn't interested, I …
/r/MensRights15/08/13 03:56 PM
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But men wanting to be attractive to women is because of their need to assert dominance?
/r/MensRights15/08/13 04:31 AM
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Yup. It's such a contradiction. Someone on the /r/gaming version of this post complained that male characters are sexualized with features that "men wished they had themselves", and women are sexualized with features that "men wish that women had". That seems to contradict the fact that the most popular plastic surgery is breast implants...
/r/MensRights15/08/13 02:46 AM
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(that is, to throw in with the feminists and scream oppression) then I stand wholly opposed. I'm sorry if my sardonic title was misleadingly deadpanned. My point was not that men are somehow "equally oppressed"; my point was that the treatment of women in games is not special, that men are "unrealistic" and "sexualized" too, and that everybody should just chill the fuck out about it. Games should be sexy and over-the-top. They should be unrealistic. They should be fun. Reality = objects are gend…
/r/MensRights15/08/13 02:43 AM
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Actually, I would argue that these characters are sexualized, but they are not "objectified". And the point of this post is not, "Look! Men have it bad too!" The point of this post is, "It's a game with an outlandish art style and sexy characters! It's fun! Everybody chill the fuck out with the social justice-policing of video games!"
/r/MensRights14/08/13 08:03 PM
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Looks like the same guy that wrote that bullshit Batman strip that got debunked on /r/mensrights a little while ago...
/r/MensRights14/08/13 06:13 PM
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This post is in response to this reddit post entitled The Evolution of Soul Calibur. I just wanted to show that Soul Calibur sexualizes characters of both sexes; not just female characters. You may or may not like sexy game characters, but it's disingenuous to imply that the series only targets women. I tried posting this to /r/gaming, the same place where the original was posted, and I ate downvotes within the first minute. Almost nobody saw it because it never got above a score of 0.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 06:06 PM
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I think that it could be partially because of cultural reinforcement. In movies and TV there are significant steps taken to manipulate the height of actors. A below-average man like Tom Cruise is almost always blocked so that he is the tallest in a scene: 5'7" Cruise is the same height as 6'3" Freeman on the poster. 5'9" Tom Hardy played the iconic villain Bane in The Dark Knight Rises. He wore 3-inch lifts to appear "tall enough". They also manipulated his relative height to other characters: f…
/r/MensRights14/08/13 05:58 PM
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I'm aware that the article is written by a woman. And I'm aware that it would be called "misogynist" regardless. But all they are doing is making it extremely easy for someone to say, "The men's rights movement hates women; here is an article where they call all women 'cunts', and here it is on /r/mensrights with over 100 upvotes." This is not how you win an argument. This is how you alienate your egalitarian base and give ammo to your opponent. For the record (and I'm sad that I have to say thi…
/r/MensRights13/08/13 02:51 PM
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"Women are facing a very real and grave problem in our culture: They are obnoxious cunts." If A Voice For Men wants to be taken seriously and not get labeled a misogynist hate website, then they should stop posting stupid inflammatory shit like this. All they are doing is alienating potential allies. It's a stupid fucking tactic.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 05:28 AM
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Honestly, I think that it's too late for that. All the male dominated fields give advantages to women now. If you go to a computer science or physics department, I guarantee that they have a couple of women's only scholarships or bursaries to encourage more women to enter the field. The fields are male-dominated despite a concerted effort to increase female enrollment.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 01:47 AM
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I enjoy the fact that any time someone "toots their own horn" and calls himself a "genius", everyone collectively starts perusing their work for errors. Write a paragraph and call yourself a genius; I guarantee that someone on reddit will find some sort of error.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 11:45 PM
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Well... silver lining in your case is that you went into physics instead of comparative lit. Lots of frustration pushed you into a much more useful (albeit more difficult) field.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 11:41 PM
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I had a female math teacher like that too... I guess my point is that, if a teacher is able to punish students she doesn't like on a math test, imagine how easily she would be able to dock marks on an essay about King Lear.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 09:37 PM
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And the next comment is a polite recognition of the thank you comment which... Oh shit. We seem to have created some sort of recursive politeness algorithm that is going to spin wildly out of control if we don't abort it soon... ... ... ... uh... ... ... Fuck you, pigeonburger.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 06:53 PM
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I agree with you that men and women are different. But I also think that it's dangerous to just assume that nothing will change, no matter how much we load the deck in favor of one demographic over another. If we bias our schools against half of our best and brightest (more than half, if you support the "wide male distribution" theory) then we are going to be worse off in the long run.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 05:51 PM
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Trust me. It checks out.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 05:04 PM
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I think that the simplest explanation is that there is a pro-female bias in most areas of education, but there cannot be an evaluation bias in math. 2+2=4 no matter who you are. Frustrated boys gravitate towards the fields where a teacher's biases and opinions cannot influence grades. It's the reason that you see so many boys in fields where there is a clear correct answer - science, engineering, math, etc. So you have a sea of confident girls who received praise for their opinions who go on to …
/r/MensRights12/08/13 04:47 PM
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Interesting that boys always seem to be "behind" in subjectively-evaluated courses like english, but not behind in objectively-evaluated courses like math or science... Seems like a teacher's biases could heavily influence which story is "better" but not whether 2+2 = 4 or not. Depending on the evaluator, the mark of an essay could deviate by more than a letter grade; yet, a multiple choice exam will always be marked the same. Extrapolating from this observation, does it surprise anyone that boy…
/r/MensRights12/08/13 04:39 PM
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I keep saying this, but I think it's worth mentioning - the fact that there are more male CEOs is relatively meaningless as an indicator of our present education climate and policies. CEOs are older people; they tend to be at the end/top of their careers. If CEOs are in their 50s, it means that we are dealing with people born and raised in the 1950s and 1960s - and the social and educational biases present at that time. The under-representation of women in high positions in this age bracket is c…
/r/MensRights12/08/13 04:28 PM
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Gotta love /r/mensrights: Top comment is skeptical of a strong claim made in the post and requests proof. Top response is a link to a peer-reviewed study that supports the post.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 04:22 PM
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Yes. Given a large enough study, the tiniest change will be "significant" because "statistically significant" and what we refer to conversationally as "significant" are two very different things. The question that we should be asking is not whether the difference is "significant" but whether the difference is "meaningful". I would suggest that the wage gap myth of "77 cents on the dollar" would be a meaningful difference. A difference of 23% is meaningful. A difference of 2% is not, especially g…
/r/MensRights12/08/13 04:16 PM
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You sound like an apologist-apologist.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 08:44 PM
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BUT THEN Soner decided that just getting away with it wasn't enough, and decided to sue the young ladies for $60,000. Which, I BELIEVE puts him firmly into "cry-baby" territory himself. Obviously, accusing someone of a rape they didn't commit is a very, very, VERY shitty thing to do – but you can't sue people for what MIGHT have happened. Or I mean, you can. I know this because he's doing it right now. But you shouldn't. That's what she said. I'm shocked she referred to an innocent man who did n…
/r/MensRights09/08/13 04:24 PM
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I haven't really been following the whole Atheism+ controversy, so forgive me for putting on a tinfoil hat here... But did all the major leaders of the Skeptic movement who opposed Atheism+ taking over Atheism... did all those guys get anonymously accused of rape? Like, with no legal action? Just anonymously named in order to discredit them? Please tell me that I am misinterpreting this situation....
/r/MensRights09/08/13 04:13 PM
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If there weren't segregated sports there simply would be no female athletes at all. The idea of trying to force male teams to take on female athletes is in the opposite interest of female athletes, because when male athletes start to cross over, you will simply be left with an A and B team composed of male athletes.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 09:04 PM
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Women being better at endurance events is one of those oft-repeated half-truths (a factoid). I think that the source of this is the fact that women are "proportionally" better at distance events... meaning that they lose by less as distances increase.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 08:53 PM
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That was my experience in school as well. The funny thing is that whenever you suggest that our children are being raised in a very pro-female environment they scoff, "Men rule the world! There are more male politicians and CEOs! Men earn more money!" The thing is that CEOs and senior politicians are in their 50s. They were born and raised in the 1950s and 1960s - AMC's Mad Men era! You can't judge present day educational policies based on the success of people raised a half-century earlier.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 08:38 PM
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And this is why I always go to the comments before voting...
/r/MensRights08/08/13 05:08 AM
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I think that's the point. An "abuse button" could only be implemented fairly with a human element, and presently that it not economically feasible. As Deane pointed out, trolls will simply shut down their account and open another. What Lette wants is an automated system where any comment can be removed simply because it is unpopular. If a tweet gets enough reports, have it deleted. Enough deleted comments and shut down the entire account... I can't imagine how that could be abused...
/r/MensRights07/08/13 08:19 PM
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No problem. This discussion helped me too as it forced me to really think about such issues. Have a good day.
/r/MensRights07/08/13 06:48 PM
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First of all, I'll reiterate that I regret using the term. It's very easy to try to label anyone of an opposing viewpoint a "concern troll" as a way to dismiss their opinion; that said, that is what the post seemed to be. In my original post, I described it as "concern trolling" but did not describe the person as a "concern troll"; this is a subtle semantic point, but it is sort of like the difference between someone "doing something rude" and someone being a "rude person". But then for those of…
/r/MensRights07/08/13 06:14 PM
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Honestly, I have heard it in person too. And not from feminists. Feel free to doubt, but I'm not making things up.
/r/MensRights07/08/13 03:52 AM
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A concern troll is a person who pretends to be part of one group, but is secretly of an opposing viewpoint; they disrupt the conversation by expressing "concern" about the way that the group is behaving. "I believe in men's rights but I don't like the way that /r/mensrights is behaving..." It's an attempt to undermine the group from within. (As a side note, the term "concern trolling" actually bugs me and I usually try to avoid it. It's the fact that the the term "troll" is being misused. "Troll…
/r/MensRights06/08/13 06:08 PM
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The fact that it is so clearly false and yet is oft-repeated to the point where so many people think it is true, it is the quintessential factoid.
/r/MensRights06/08/13 05:59 PM
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For sure. People wonder why there are more "shooting" games than story-based games. And the truth is that "shooting" games are just easier to make. Look at first person shooters - at their core, the game is about moving through an environment and clicking your mouse on your opponent before they click on you. That is a lot easier to design than a game like "The Walking Dead" which involves writing, producing, and recording hours of interactive dialogue in a story that allows you to make choices b…
/r/MensRights06/08/13 05:59 PM
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Did you know that 'factoid' means 'not a fact', not 'little fact'? You, in fact, used the word correctly. Well done. Yeah. I included the definition in parentheses for the benefit of people who use factoid to mean "a small self-contained piece of trivial information". The interesting thing is that the incorrect use of factoid has become so prolific that it is sometimes accepted as an alternate definition... which is frustrating because "factoid" has two contradictory definitions, thus destroying…
/r/MensRights06/08/13 09:39 AM
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"Women never lie about rape." "Men are always the aggressor in domestic violence situations." "Stop violence against women." "Feminism helps men too." "Feminists only want equality." We encounter misleading factoids (dubious information presented as facts so frequently that they become "true" in the minds of most people) so frequently that it is beneficial to have a growing collection of refutations available. A video of a prominent female cheerleader or news anchor attacking her husband is proo…
/r/MensRights06/08/13 08:19 AM
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inception sound
/r/MensRights06/08/13 01:25 AM
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Oh my god, you guys! Can you believe that she said that?
/r/MensRights05/08/13 09:30 PM
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If a feminist organization was willing to organize a real-life false flag protest - where people dressed up and pretended to be the men's rights movement in order to mock and discredit it - think of the comparative ease with which one person could mount such a false-flag operation online. So called "misogynistic comments" that were used to generate $150,000 of kickstarter money for Anita Sarkeesian's women in video games campaing... the comments and photoshopped images used to intimidate Adria R…
/r/MensRights05/08/13 09:29 PM
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You're going to be very happy. He's ranked 7 in the world. 7. His nick name is "Big Country". He's an amazing submission fighter, but has a reputation for knocking people out really bad. At 6' tall, he's short for a heavyweight, but that doesn't stop him from somehow reaching the chin of some huge terrifying athletes. Here's some photos. He fought a 6'4" monster named Cheick Kongo. Here's the staredown; who would put money on Big Country to win this fight? Knockout Fat guy celebration Honor amon…
/r/MensRights05/08/13 06:45 PM
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As I just mentioned, the ultimate example of this would be Roy "Big Country" Nelson.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 06:28 PM
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Your comment made me realize that I should have included Roy Nelson in this discussion. He has hair... too much hair... which made me think he was off-topic.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 06:26 PM
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Just thought I would jump in here and say that "factoid" is a very misused word. People use it to mean "a self-contained fact" or something like that. What it actually means according to the Oxford dictionary is "an item of unreliable information that is repeated so often that it becomes accepted as fact." Factoids are supposed to be dubious. So I actually thought you were disagreeing with me. ...So here's an interesting follow-up piece of information. It turns out that the "misuse" of the word …
/r/MensRights05/08/13 06:23 PM
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It's not just that Velasquez is more skilled. It's that fighters have to strike a balance between many different attributes. Strongmen train far too much for strength and therefore lack the endurance, flexibility, quickness, agility, and many other requirements for being a good fighter. Heavily muscled fighters are at a huge disadvantage in a 25 minutes fight because they always tire too quickly and would be run over by a cardio machine like Velasquez.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 06:16 PM
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That's a really interesting question. I know that women make up a larger-than-expected percentage of facebook social games as well as MMORPG. I suspect that the love of open-world RPGs has a similar appeal to MMOs in that you get to explore and meet people and feel a part of the world. There is no question that the growth of games as an art form has increased the appeal to a female audience. I think what I meant to imply with my "mechanical/social toy" example is that early video games were devo…
/r/MensRights05/08/13 06:12 PM
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The same way that you would rather look at attractive female characters in a videogame world with a sense of "heightened reality"?
/r/MensRights05/08/13 05:48 PM
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As I just mentioned. The strongest strong man is now a pro fighter and he would get absolutely destroyed by Cain Velasquez.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 07:17 AM
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My point is that if you're imagining yourself as "the best fighter in the world", that is who you should be picturing. In fact, "World's Strongest Man" champion Mariusz Pudzianowski made the transition to professional fighter wouldn't come close to competing with Velasquez. He lost to a guy who was both cut from the UFC years ago and on a 3 fight losing streak to nobodies.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 07:16 AM
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I don't read enough comics to know for certain. What do you think?
/r/MensRights05/08/13 07:10 AM
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The thing about hair is that it also serves as a functional way to differentiate characters. This argument can also be made about the controversial attributes of female characters.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 07:10 AM
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The point is that these arguments can also all be used to explain female characters controversial features too.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 07:08 AM
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And there are men who like the "big beautiful woman" body type; or men who like very small breasts the best. Some men like even like penises... When we're having this type of conversation there are always going to be exceptions. We have to talk about general trends... The point is that it's just as fair to talk about "female characters having large breasts to appeal to men" as it is to say general things about appealing to women.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 02:16 AM
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Thanks loop! I think that a lot of people have me tagged as "asshole", so it balances out...
/r/MensRights05/08/13 02:03 AM
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Johnson was involved in WWE, which is fictional. It's acting and fake fighting. He's an actor now. The people who I was citing are actual professional fighters. People who actually punch, kick, tackle, choke, and break the limbs of one another. Not fake.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 01:39 AM
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The claim that hyperbolic imagery leads to objectification is unsubstantiated to begin with. But if it's taken for granted, there is no reason to exclude the effects of ideals on inter-male socialization. It is taken for granted because it is a foundation of so much of feminist thought. Too much is riding on it being true for them to budge on it.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 01:33 AM
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Sorry then... There was a lot of discussion on the topic and I didn't want to "miss the wave of interest" so to speak.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 01:32 AM
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"Female armor" is an issue that is totally overblown. It's a funny joke, so it's oft-repeated, but in reality it is much more rare and subdued than the jokes make it seem. First of all, some "female armor" exists just to demonstrate that the woman is a woman. Some "female armor" has a slightly feminine silhouette so that people can tell the character is female, but it isn't particularly sexualized. One the other hand, the game Tera is probably the worst offender for sexual impractical armor. The…
/r/MensRights05/08/13 01:25 AM
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Either way I'd like to see some polls or something. Here is a poll that states that women were 5 times more likely to contact a man with a full head of hair. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/women-dating-on-internet-5-times-385120 (quoting myself) Fighting games have characters with nice hair for no reason other than to appeal superficially to female gamers... I'm not sold on that one. You know what... I'm glad you called me on this because there is an implication here that I didn't state ou…
/r/MensRights05/08/13 01:16 AM
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Come on, man... you've gotta put a warning up when you link to tvtropes! Warning: Above link is to tvtropes. Look away if you have something to do in the next 5 hours.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 01:05 AM
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In fairness, Johnson isn't actually a professional fighter, which is what I was highlighting. Actual fighters, not guys who play them on TV.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 01:03 AM
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Thanks. To be honest, I was worried that it would seem prohibitively long. Essays like this can be hit and miss on reddit. Sometimes people see a wall of text and downvote. Fortunately, in this case, people are taking the time to read and vote (up or down). As a writer, I definitely appreciate people taking the time to do so.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 10:25 PM
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I'm sorry. I believe I misunderstood where you were going with your quote. I thought you meant, "Male characters are agents and female characters are damsels in games" because that has been the subject of Anita Sarkeesian's most recent video. You actually meant that in real life, which is another point entirely. I think you can probably understand my confusion in context... I was arguing a related point that has come up frequently in the discussion of characters and "agency" in games. Meh. I thi…
/r/MensRights04/08/13 10:22 PM
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Another thing to remember that the percentage of male CEOs and whatnot is a terrible indicator of present day biases. Looking at a population composed primarily of people who are in their 50s means that you are looking at a population of people born in the 1950s and raised by the educational biases for the 1960s, and the hiring biases of the 1970s. The present day workforce is composed of people who were raised by the educational biases of the 1990s as well as the echoes of the 1950s. You can't …
/r/MensRights04/08/13 09:53 PM
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1) Hair-pulling is illegal in MMA, so long hair is not a disadvantage for this reason. 2) The men I've shown have male pattern baldness. Their hair has fallen out; they didn't choose to remove it. 3) The fact that hair is a disadvantage is all the more evidence that the hair in games is present purely for aesthetic reasons, because it is anti-functional. 4) Most games which feature a bald protagonist (particularly common in the days when hair rendering wasn't yet solved for real-time situations)…
/r/MensRights04/08/13 09:46 PM
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There is no question that there is a social conditioning component to entertainment preference. But, as I mentioned, primate studies have shown that the toy preference trends extend into the animal kingdom which makes a very strong argument for a biological component to the trend. Female chimps prefer doll play compared to their male peers. Even without a toy present, female chimp youth will carry bundles of sticks as if they are babies and play with them as a human girl would play with a doll. …
/r/MensRights04/08/13 09:32 PM
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Sorry if I wasn't clear. This was meant to demonstrate that the knife cuts both ways; that both female and male characters are designed to be attractive. The goal of this is not to say, "Men are discriminated against too!" It is to say, "Everybody chill the fuck out about sexism in videogames!" There is nothing wrong with wanting to look at beautiful things. Media aimed at women is full of content that women find attractive and appealing: For example, this daytime talk show for women uses male s…
/r/MensRights04/08/13 09:26 PM
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Credit to /u/Degraine and this post as my source.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 09:07 PM
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Yup. Thunderf00t is awesome and his videos are right on the money. I hope that he makes more.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 08:15 PM
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That's true, although I will acknowledge one caveat... There is a tendency among the smaller fighters to have that "cut" look with more defined musculature, and that is because they have to cut weight in order to have an advantage in their weight class. And they even cut water weight in order to make weight on fight day. If your weight class is 170 lbs, but you have almost no body fat and rehydrate up to 190 lbs on fight day, then you have a huge advantage. But that is misleading. If you look at…
/r/MensRights04/08/13 08:13 PM
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That's another different battle, but also easily explained. The "agent/object" dichotomy is stupid from the perspective of games analysis because everything boils down to a single observation: the character with "agency" is the character that the player controls. The rest of the characters are literally objects... One may as well bemoan the objectification of the players on a foosball table. Videogame culture goes back to arcade culture in the late 70s and 80s, with the popularity of pinball, a …
/r/MensRights04/08/13 08:04 PM
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Thanks! I wish I could have made the argument more brief, but sometimes it takes a while to adequately set the stage for such an argument.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 07:19 PM
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Women like abs and arms the way that men like breasts and butts. But that's the secret to how feminists can make the "power fantasy" argument. In an action setting, large muscles are functional. So they argue that the exaggerated musculature is for "power" and not for attractiveness. Of course, large muscles are attractive on men precisely because they are functional; they are a way of advertising "evolutionary fitness" to women. Conversely, breasts and hips are sexy on women to men, but they se…
/r/MensRights04/08/13 05:51 PM
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Please post this to /r/mensrights as an original post. I would do it myself, but you deserve the karma. Edit: It's worth adding to the ongoing discussion on the front page while the "iron is still hot" so to speak... I waited 3 hours. Posted it and credited you.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 05:33 PM
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If I could fly, I would so get fifty shades of laid...
/r/MensRights04/08/13 05:32 PM
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That comic is written by a man named David.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 05:28 PM
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Here's the problem from my perspective, and I would appreciate your input on this: There are definitely comics and games aimed primarily at a male audience. I don't think that there is a problem with that. There is also media aimed primarily at women, which is also fine. I also think it's great if there are lots women who wish that there was more "newer" media for them. More women who want to game and read comics? Great! My problem is when people demand that existing stories and content be chang…
/r/MensRights04/08/13 05:27 PM
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Women choose sexy races in WoW because they want to be treated like they are attractive. They even added more sexy races to the Horde (Blood Elves) because not enough women were playing Horde. That's clear evidence that sexy female characters represent a "fantasy" for women as much as being strong as a man is a "fantasy".
/r/MensRights04/08/13 05:06 PM
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The games industry argument comes from manipulative stats. All the stats say that women are "50% of gamers" but that is a half-truth. When they say "gamers" they include your mom playing bejeweled as a "gamer" along with a 23 year-old student who owns a PS3, XBox, and Wii and plays every major console release.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 05:04 PM
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This is a very common rationalization. Feminists (like the notorious Anita Sarkeesian video series) complain about the portrayal of women in media. They might say, for example that Catwoman sets an impossible standard of sexiness for women. The obvious counter-argument is that the male characters in the same universe - Batman for example - sets an equally unrealistic standard for men; and that the character designs are simply examples of a stylized and heightened reality. So the feminists counte…
/r/MensRights04/08/13 05:00 PM
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To be perfectly honest, I don't want to censor anything. I think that stylized depictions of men and women in games are great. Animated characters can show so much more personality. In a stylized world, normal people look boring. And in an action game with chaos flying all around, characters need to be stylized so you can tell them apart. What's the point of having various sexes and species in video games if you can't tell a male orc from a female elf in a firefight? I think that everyone needs …
/r/MensRights03/08/13 11:28 PM
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I think that this type of observation is a manipulative tactic used to lump all men together into a group of supposedly violent, anti-social people - and that tactic is used to marginalize men as a group.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 07:21 PM
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You know, we've been talking a lot about fitness standards in this subreddit - how female firefighters, police officers, and soldiers all have easier fitness tests than the men. This shooting is an example of why that is a terrible idea. That officer should not have needed to use deadly force immediately. The man was unarmed and did not need to die. Fire fighters should be big strong people so that they can carry injured people out of burning buildings. Police officers should be big strong peopl…
/r/MensRights03/08/13 07:16 PM
1

I agree. It is circle-jerky. That's why I posted what I posted. That I can't believe that everyone isn't sick of the joke yet. But I confess, I read Everything_Is_Rape's comments and I chuckle every time; and by my own rules of voting, if I chuckle, I usually upvote. But honestly, I completely agree about the soul of /r/mensrights. I find myself disconcerted by how highly we upvote dubious facebook screenshots and "meme-like" images, compared to interesting articles and more though-provoking iss…
/r/MensRights03/08/13 07:05 PM
2

I might be a bit late to the party, but I thought that I should comment since I'm mentioned in the post. I've noticed that (occasionally) my posts will get downvoted en masse... meaning that I'll post a comment vaguely related to men's issues and all of my recent posts will be downvoted exactly the same amount, even the ones that are about totally unrelated issues. It isn't common, but have been a few times where I've posted a comment and then suddenly all my recent comments are below the viewab…
/r/MensRights03/08/13 07:00 PM
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Or, alternately, he just could just speak to fucking everyone regarding the abuse they suffer online... Apologizing to women for the abuse they suffer online is like how ending "violence against women" apparently actually means "domestic violence", and how apparently "feminism" supposedly means "equality for everyone".
/r/MensRights03/08/13 06:33 PM
1

Apparently Typeyournamehere has a sock puppet account...
/r/MensRights03/08/13 06:32 PM
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Exactly... And, as mentioned above, you'll see feminists use the concept of "male power fantasy" to explain that it's a men's fault that an unrealistic ideal is placed on men in media. Both the female and male unrealistic ideals are the fault of men according to these people... The female ideal is a male fantasy, and the male ideal is a male fantasy according to them. You see it all the time in the "Anita Sarkeesian-style" video game critiques.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 06:30 PM
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I love how that is the explanation they give. As if women don't also "fantasize" about looking like the feminine ideals that we see in the media. It totally cuts both ways.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 06:23 PM
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I think it's definitely worth noting that most of the famous men with "ideal" bodies are likely on a dangerous (possibly illegal) anabolic supplement to look the way that they do. HGH, testosterone, other anabolic steroids... They can talk about women having unrealistic standards of beauty, but the "ideal" male physique is literally impossible to attain without dangerous chemical supplements.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 06:20 PM
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Fuck. The dude is the top of almost every thread that I see. I can't believe nobody is sick of the joke yet. But, I have to admit, it just keeps being funny...
/r/MensRights03/08/13 12:21 AM
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"Australian women live longer than men but retire, on average, with substantially less superannuation" Solid logic. Men die much younger than women so... we should pay women more money!
/r/MensRights01/08/13 11:09 PM
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Honestly, I think that this sucks. I think that the idea of working towards parity in the insult department - for example, it's worth pointing out that calling a man a "dick" or a "cock" or a "prick" is taken to be comparatively and unfairly benign. But does not mean that I suddenly want people to freak out and admonish people for telling a man he's being a "dick" when he's being a dick. I refuse to support this sort of ridiculous policing of language. Is calling someone a "princess" really that…
/r/MensRights01/08/13 05:29 PM
1

It really sounded like they were joking here...
/r/MensRights01/08/13 12:14 AM
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Are you sure that he wasn't being ironic?
/r/MensRights31/07/13 11:43 PM
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This article was excellent. I particularly liked the fact that she preemptively undercut the feminist argument that what men need is more feminism: "Yet, with a few exceptions, feminists have balked at any pro-equality advocacy that would support men in male-female disputes, acknowledge that women can mistreat men, or undermine female advantage."
/r/MensRights31/07/13 06:46 PM
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Just out of interest's sake... legally speaking, did he have to open the door? What's the law on this?
/r/MensRights31/07/13 06:44 PM
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I think that it's the whole "girl power" idea behind a reality series called "Police Women of Cincinnati".
/r/MensRights31/07/13 06:34 PM
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The main reason that women are more likely to be the sole abuser in one-way domestic violence cases is precisely because of the way that domestic violence is treated in the media. Try telling someone that it should be "End Domestic Violence" instead of "End Violence Against Women" and you'll be called a misogynist and a hateful scumbag male. "Violence Against Women" means "Domestic Violence" in the same way that "Feminism" means "Equality".
/r/MensRights31/07/13 06:28 PM
3

You're going to have to provide a link to back this up, because it sounds ridiculous...
/r/MensRights31/07/13 05:06 PM
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I'd like to point out that, like almost all South Park jokes, people take the surface meaning with no understanding of the underlying irony and satire. South Park does an episode about the absurdity of racism; idiots decide that it's an endorsement for picking on kids with red hair... Same thing here. There is a reason that South Park is for adults and carries a warning for 18+. It's not because of the language or rude humor; it's because 13 year-olds are not smart or worldly enough to understan…
/r/MensRights31/07/13 05:20 AM
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If these people had workable math skills then they never would have went into women's studies in the first place.
/r/MensRights31/07/13 12:18 AM
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Dude, there are women in STEM fields. It's not like 100% of biologists are men. There are just more men than women in STEM fields because there are more men than women who want to work in STEM fields. Nobody is saying that "women aren't suited for STEM work" or "men are better at STEM work" - it's just a matter of interest. People want women to dominate all aspects of education and they see STEM as the last battleground before an all-out female victory.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 07:53 PM
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Remember that this is not just in Sweden. President Obama talked about how such unequal college numbers are a "victory". And then went on to suggest that we should be pushing for higher female enrollment in STEM fields. Any time men are winning, they say it's because of sexism; any time women are winning, they say it's because of an even player field and that women are just better.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 06:01 PM
0

"Criminal" in this context is just an expression.
/r/MensRights27/07/13 10:03 PM
4

That was a total set up - the guy was the straight man for sure. "I just don't understand how something so small could be so impressive..."? What an awkward set-up to an obvious joke.
/r/MensRights27/07/13 07:40 PM
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Social conditioning has some influence yes, but you can't deny the importance of biology here. Young female chimps carry bundles of sticks as "dolls" - they treat them like infants and carry them around the way that human girls play with dolls. They do this until they have babies of their own. I think your argument about pink misses the point. There is no reason or evidence that a preference for "pink" is gender based; in fact pink was the male color and blue was the female color up until the 20…
/r/MensRights27/07/13 07:37 PM
1

This is a depressingly pathetic novelty account. Please stop.
/r/MensRights27/07/13 07:28 PM
2

It goes way beyond that though... The article states that women who scored lower overall on the female test. I hear about this anecdotally from friends in police and fire jobs too - that woman are hired preferentially to meet quotas and prevent accusations of discrimination. It's bad enough that there are lower standards for women... but to cut a guy who fails the male standards but not cut a woman who does worse on the female standards seems egregious.
/r/MensRights27/07/13 07:20 PM
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Thanks for posting the link to his original submission. I think it's criminal that Sarkeesian's videos garnered so much popularity and his video was largely ignored...
/r/MensRights27/07/13 04:16 PM
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I wrote gaminggooose a message on his /r/videos submission and I'm interested in what you guys think... here it is: I think it's sad that this video has gone largely unnoticed while Sarkeesian's have blown up in views and backer money. I thought that your video was extremely well-done, but I would like to offer you some constructive criticism which (I hope) will help get "part 2" more views... First of all, I really appreciate a few key points about your video: 1) Statistics: The fact that you u…
/r/MensRights27/07/13 04:15 PM
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Lets see... I've been shouted at... put be down for verbal abused. I've been criticized and ignored... emotional abuse. I've been slapped... so, phyical abuse. And I've been coerced into sex... which I'm pretty sure they classify as sexual abuse in these surveys. If not, when I was a teenager a group of drunk middle-aged single women were applying a lot of unwelcome touching and come-ons... so I'd probably count that one too.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 07:32 AM
3

Wanting to change the ban on blood donation from men who have had anal sex with men reminds me of the people who want lower standards for women applying for police/fire/military jobs. You want to make something worse and more expensive in order to protect people's feelings. This isn't about discrimination. It's about statistically-validated levels of blood-borne pathogens in certain populations and the risk/benefit ratio of including/excluding said demographics. Right now the data says that it's…
/r/MensRights26/07/13 07:27 AM
1

I've noticed that this account seems to get downvoted periodically. For example, I'll make a somewhat controversial comment and then all of my recent comments (like a page of them) will suddenly be scored "0". I think that people sometimes hate a comment enough that they go into your history and start downvoting everything. Not uncommon for people with /r/mensrights views. Oh well. It's like redditing on "hard mode".
/r/MensRights25/07/13 08:13 PM
3

Fuck this advice. This is actually terrible advice for relationships. You end up being the "right man" but have no skills for identifying who the "right woman" is. So you end up being the "right man" married to the "wrong woman". And end up miserable. If your son asks you how to find the right woman, you should give him a list of criteria for what would make a woman a good partner. And give him a list of red flags of when she is the wrong woman. TL;DR - We should be telling our sons the same thi…
/r/MensRights25/07/13 06:39 PM
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I think that the double-standard is bad for men's health. I mean, men die earlier than women and it's no secret that healthy diet and exercise contribute to longer life. The justification that women need women's only gyms because many women feel self-conscious when they exercise is valid. But what about men? Why don't men get a "safe space" to exercise that is designed to cater to their needs? Why isn't there a gym dedidicated to the James Gandolfini's and the Patrice O'Neals of the world? You d…
/r/MensRights25/07/13 06:27 PM
3

I know that you're kidding around, but I'm being serious. Has there been a complaint to the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission because a company just had an outright policy that they would not hire women? Has that happened in the last decade? I just think it's ironic that the prevailing narrative of women being discriminated against and therefore needing protections is actually necessary to protect men against discrimination...
/r/MensRights25/07/13 06:58 AM
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Just out of interest's sake, in the past decade has there ever been a case of hiring discrimination against women this prolific? Where a major company outright refused to hire women because they were "unsuited for the job"?
/r/MensRights24/07/13 10:35 PM
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At first I thought, "This is about race and nothing to do with men's rights." I skimmed the article and found that it makes reference to "Young white men from disadvantaged backgrounds [being] increasingly unlikely to attend university."
/r/MensRights23/07/13 02:49 PM
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Or if not a girl, at least one said that they hope he is gay. How's that for hypocritically "choosing an identity for a baby". Just goes to show that social justice warriors view "straight and male" as undesirable.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 02:45 PM
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The reference: "Now I think it's a little early to start imposing roles on it, don't you?" I can't believe that joke has actually come true. If they were actually referencing Python, they would have used the actual quote and added "#montypython" or something like that. Those people are definitely serious.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 02:41 PM
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Wasn't it "The Talk"?
/r/MensRights23/07/13 04:41 AM
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Why would you want to play ridiculous passive-aggressive mind games like that. Be direct and say what you think.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 07:31 PM
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It's also legal for a mother to walk away from an unwanted pregnancy by putting her child up for adoption.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 06:50 PM
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"Man records wife's abuse" That is an important title. The actual video does not mention abuse and only implies that the woman is acting childish. I think that a lot of men don't realize that they are in an emotionally abusive relationship, because they excuse the behavior or blame themselves; calling abuse "abuse" is important.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 06:46 PM
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No. You're looking at it wrong. The whole point of this group is talking about men and women being treated differently. If gay men and gay women are treated equally to one another, but differently than straight people, then it isn't a men's rights issue, it is a gay rights issue. If, for example, gay men were being outlawed, but not gay women, then it would be a men's rights issue. Please stop trying to subvert this community.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 07:51 PM
3

By your logic, I could say that Natural Gas Fracking is a men's rights issue because contaminated ground water affects men.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 05:16 PM
1

I think that we should probably Agree to Disagree.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 02:34 AM
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In that case, I usually point out that the trend of gaming protagonists being handsome 30-something muscular men seems to be perfectly in line with the top all-time posts at /r/ladyboners, the subreddit where women post pictures of men they find attractive. Have a look for yourself: http://www.reddit.com/r/LadyBoners/top/ Notice that first page of top posts is 99% lightly-bearded, brown-haired, muscular, handsome light-skinned men? But more specifically, have a look at the top 3 posts: Hugh Laur…
/r/MensRights18/07/13 10:51 PM
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As I pointed out in the thread you linked, this guy was in the Tomb Raider game and he seems equally "sexualized" as Lara. He's wearing a small muscle shirt and his muscles are just as exaggerated as Lara's breasts. This character cannot possibly be a "power fantasy" because he is not the player character; thus his muscles are purely for aesthetic reasons. Here is the link to my original post about that character on the "Lara Croft Gender Bend" post you linked. It might be worth a quick look.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 10:30 PM
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There are women's-only gyms everywhere. I've never seen a men's only gym. In fact, most gyms that you would expect to be predominantly male (boxing, fighting etc.) are usually going out of there way to offer women's-only classes and discounted rates to entice more female members. The irony is that they defend this practice by saying that unfit women feel self-conscious about working out in the presence of men and so they need to have a "safe space" because exercise is important for a healthy lif…
/r/MensRights18/07/13 07:16 PM
1

In the article it says that she is an actress on a show called "American Horror Story" and is the daughter of actor Eric Roberts.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 06:40 PM
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It's not unlike "racism" or "islamophobia" etc. That's why I'm sort of torn about our use of the word "misandry". It's necessary to demonstrate a double-standard in gender politics, but I've seen the word used to shut down discussion and I don't think that's beneficial.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 06:29 PM
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This is one of those classic situations where upvoting or downvoting seems like a tough decision. On the one hand, upvoting is a good idea because the research done on the original post is important to see. I now feel more informed on that case and feel like I want other to see this post. However, I don't want to feel like my upvote is an endorsement of OP's rhetoric. So, for what it's worth, I've upvoted for visibility, but I don't want that to be misconstrued as an upvote for endorsement.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 06:27 PM
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"Announce your vote (with rare exceptions). "Upvote" and "Downvote" aren't terribly interesting comments and only increase the noise to signal ratio." Notice that this post is about the "signal to noise ratio" in that a response that simply says "upvote" or "downvote" adds nothing to the discussion. There is nothing wrong with downvoting for a specific reason and then explaining why. Try to manipulate the voting mechanism That is an entire section and it refers to trying to obtain extra votes th…
/r/MensRights18/07/13 02:07 AM
2

vampvincent edited his answer to say, "The initial information here was incorrect, move along citizen." He had believed that an example given by the defense (which referred to a different case) referred to the defendant herself. I was being tactful because this was, at the time, the top comment and was asserting the misinformation as a matter of fact. I simply requested that a claim be backed up by evidence as I believed the poster was mistaken. He was and revised his comment (which is why there…
/r/MensRights18/07/13 12:13 AM
5

Dude, it was a joke. Relax.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 10:28 PM
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I have downvoted you comment. I did this because I have serious reason to think that you are incorrect. I believe that you are incorrect and that the incident described in the video referred to a different person. Please provide a reliable source to back up your claim (and will reverse my vote). If you are incorrect, please edit your comment to indicate your mistake. Our community will seem foolish if we make claims without adequate evidence. Edit: I could definitely see how easy it would be to …
/r/MensRights17/07/13 06:48 PM
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Ah... so that's what the lawyer meant when she said that the law wasn't intended for people like her client.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 06:41 PM
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If you watch the police video of her talking to the fake hitman, you'll see that the police ask her whether she is being abused and if it is why she wants him dead. She says that he is not abusive and that the dispute is over assets and his "attitude". I'm sure that the prosecution didn't feel the need more evidence than this to reject her spurious battered woman defense.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 04:33 AM
2

There was a post on /r/mensrights a few weeks ago about how feminists are trying to get "lad mags" banned from being sold in convenience/book stores because they objectify (adult) women.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 08:09 PM
1

This is actually brilliant. I can't tell you the number of times I've "split the bill" with friends who pay for their share of the total but don't factor the tip. 60/60 is such a good idea! (Well... maybe 59/59...)
/r/MensRights15/07/13 02:29 AM
10

Men don't form groups for the same reason that white people don't form groups: Society says that we aren't allowed to.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 07:28 AM
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Because there is no money in organizing a sporting event where the women get massacred. Nobody wants to watch that. The appeal of "Battle of the Sexes" sporting events is the possibility that the women might win and the "girl power" pro-female momentum behind that. In sports that are just raw athletics, like running, swimming, cycling, jumping, etc. there is no need to race head-to-head because the times prove that the race would not be close.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 12:07 AM
5

yes
/r/MensRights13/07/13 12:00 AM
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Boy's high school records are better than women's world records by a fair margin: High Jump: Women's= 2.09m ; Boy's= 2.31m Long Jump: Women's= 7.52m; Boy's=8.18m Triple Jump: Women's=15.5m; Boy's= 16.72m 100m: Women's=10.49s; Boy's=10.01s 400m: Women's=47.60s; Boy's =44.69s etc.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 11:49 PM
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Equestrian. Though I'm more inclined to use this as evidence that equistrian isn't a sport.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 11:46 PM
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The point is that there are no women who are at a high enough level to actually be able to compete. If a woman has a good chance of coming 2nd last, then let her race. But the point is that there isn't one.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 11:36 PM
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"As a consequence there is a situation where women cannot compete at all." Right. "They can't compete." They are incapable of competing at the same level. If a woman cyclist comes along that might come 2nd last, then let her compete. But if you would have to keep the streets closed for many extra hours for the women to arrive, it is their ability, and not race regulations, that are preventing them from racing. In order to be allowed to compete, you literally need to be able to "compete".
/r/MensRights12/07/13 11:35 PM
4

Fuck you.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 08:16 PM
1

Yup. Right at the top... People. Before you come and complain about this, ctrl-f for the word that you don't see.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 07:39 PM
1

It's right at the top of the article... did you not read the article? ctrl-f for "sexism"!
/r/MensRights10/07/13 07:38 PM
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Why are they acting like "mid-life crises" are an exclusively male phenomenon. Women are filing for divorce at a much higher rate than men, and they are the ones who are citing "wanting a change" for that reason. Also, labeling things like "buying a nice car" as a "mid-life crisis" is just a way to shame men away from purchasing the things they've always wanted. Most of us can't buy an awesome car at 25, but we can at 45. But by labeling such behavior as "midplife crisis, it's a way to shame men…
/r/MensRights10/07/13 07:32 PM
13

Not only that, but the person spending the money is in control of it, not the person earning it.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 07:08 PM
6

Fucking psychopath. Jesus. She says that she wants to do it because it's easier than a divorce. Because she doesn't want her family to judge her. Because she "didn't want to break his heart." Holy fuck.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 12:49 AM
20

They are more likely to be anti-feminist because they see how much of an advantage their sisters get going through life. Ever tried applying for a college scholarship? Your older sister got a "women in science" scholarship to go to a good school. You didn't so you are unfairly saddled with enormous debt even though your grades are better than hers... Or... you know... they made the observation that boys with sisters are more likely to become republicans, and then they started making shit up...
/r/MensRights08/07/13 10:44 PM
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What a subtle manipulative tactic. Good eye. Referring to the "young men" as "boys" would humanize them and draw attention to the ridiculous double-standard.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 05:34 AM
1

"Equal" work in this case applies to the output, not the effort. Bieber sells more tickets so he gets paid more. In sports this is measured based on viewership and interest. And women's tennis is far less popular than men's. So the idea that women's tennis players getting the same pay despite lower viewership doesn't make sense either.
/r/MensRights07/07/13 07:36 PM
1

it was "let's make it fair because they aren't as capable of playing 5 sets". If that is the case the whole equal pay for "equal" work seems rather dubious, doesn't it...
/r/MensRights07/07/13 05:53 PM
7

Can someone explain why they didn't tell the women that they had to play a full 5-set game when they got the pay increase? How the fuck did that not come up in the negotiations?
/r/MensRights06/07/13 10:27 PM
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No straight man has ever called another straight man a "hunk" for getting laid. Both men and women are shamed and called "dirty" for engaging in unsafe sexual practices. Point 1 is not true. This one is untrue as well. Assertiveness is a positive trait associated with leadership that can be exemplified by both men and women. A man who with poor leadership skills would be called an "asshole" or a "dick" as in "My boss is such a dick." A woman who is a bitch and a man who is a dick are the same th…
/r/MensRights05/07/13 11:13 PM
0

And women can create new babies out of their burginas! Mind = blown.
/r/MensRights05/07/13 03:24 PM
13

I think it just shows that women are much safer and more responsible workers. The nursery school near my house has no recorded fatalities.
/r/MensRights05/07/13 06:21 AM
7

Good. What happened to that woman certainly was "rape" and that man deserves to die in prison for what he did. Feminists frequently attack people for saying this, but there is a difference between holding a woman you don't know at gunpoint in an alley and force her to have oral, anal, and vaginal sex with you; and having a consensual one night stand with a friend after a party where you had been drinking, waking up the next morning and regretting it, and then claiming that consent hadn't been gi…
/r/MensRights05/07/13 02:44 AM
3

No problem. I think that is the exception that proves the rule.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 04:17 AM
0

Yes. Thanks. That, I suppose, is the exception that proves the rule.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 04:13 AM
3

Correct me if I am wrong, but I'm pretty sure that "the pill" is covered in the cases that you have outlined.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 04:11 AM
1

Well, no. Viagara treats a health problem - being unable to perform sexually. Being able to get pregnant is not a "health problem". Being unable to conceive is the "unhealthy" state. The female equivalent of Viagara would be estrogen treatments to help with vaginal dryness or treatments for pain during intercourse etc.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 02:00 AM
2

They keep citing a false equivalence between The Pill and Viagara. It's not the same.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 01:58 AM
5

Even if there was a difference, I think that this is a false equivalence. Not being able to get an erection is a health problem; Viagara is a drug used to treat a health problem. Being able to get an erection is "normal" state and not being able to is the "unhealthy" state. Being able to get pregnant is the "normal". You aren't "unhealthy" if you can get pregnant. Birth control doesn't treat an unhealthy disorder because being being unable to conceive is the unhealthy state. A drug that treats s…
/r/MensRights04/07/13 01:54 AM
2

It's not "bullshit". It's just arbitrary. There is nothing particularly weak about pink or strong about blue. It's just convenient to be able to distinguish between things meant for men and things meant for women. For example, there are vitamins for women and vitamins for men. It's easy to have a color for the packaging so that each group can spot the product for them without having to read every single one.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 01:46 AM
5

Where did you develop such a rich understanding of feminism and the MRM? Did you study it in college? Do you have a background in the social sciences? Or did you just take it upon yourself to study it on your own in your spare time?
/r/MensRights03/07/13 05:29 PM
10

Note also that it wasn't a size advantage that allowed Braasch to win as he is the same weight but shorter than Venus Williams. The skills between male and female athletes are not equal.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 08:31 AM
4

The original title was legal wordplay. Yours has the same literal meaning, but lacks the irony.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 03:13 AM
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I'm not surprised that you don't understand since you changed the title of the article for no reason and thus changed its implications.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 02:36 AM
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I upvoted this post because the article is important for people to read... But why did you change the title? Because you stitched together two different sentences from the article and completely changed the meaning: Barbara Kay: Nicole Doucet is innocent, by reason of gender and Doucet was kept out of prison for one reason only: because of her sex. Your mash-up title implies that Doucet actually is innocent because of her sex, rather than she was found innocent because of her sex. Your title is …
/r/MensRights03/07/13 01:41 AM
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I don't think that /r/mensrights is (or even should be) homogenous to have only one allowable opinion on abortion. I think that you should be allowed be an MRA and be pro-choice or pro-life. The men's rights issue with abortion is the double standard surrounding the legal issues, not abortion itself. People will say, "If you didn't want to be a father and pay child support, you shouldn't have had sex in the first place." But they will also say, "A woman's body, a woman's choice, a woman's right …
/r/MensRights03/07/13 12:42 AM
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Didn't you know that being a stay-at-home mom is much harder than being a wildland firefighter?
/r/MensRights02/07/13 10:16 PM
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You're getting pretty deep in semantics here. Practically speaking: As someone else already pointed out, you wouldn't say that slavery was two-fold racist for white people and black people.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 04:46 PM
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If that is your favourite Radiohead song, then you're doing something wrong in life.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 04:43 PM
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Just like how the draft is two-fold sexist... men get sent to die, and women aren't allowed to be sent to die? Come on... it's not really "two-fold" sexist if one group is given a huge benefit over the other.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 06:41 AM
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Funny. I thought it was going to be a book about the controversy and gender issues and not a book on how to teach phonics...
/r/MensRights02/07/13 05:10 AM
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Contemporary methods are called "whole language" learning and it is a "top down" approach. I'll start with the older Phonics approach, which is bottom-up. The idea of phonics is the learn the component sounds which make up words. You break words into the component phonemes (or fundamental units of sounds) and then construct the words from these rules. It is all about "sounding out" the words. Whole language is "top down" meaning that you begin with the word and prior knowledge of the meaning of …
/r/MensRights02/07/13 04:46 AM
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Guess I need to change my favorite Radiohead song...
/r/MensRights02/07/13 12:49 AM
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"The discrimination is uniquely two-fold—against men who want flight-attendant jobs, and against women who will only reign supreme in the cabin, as the female-only rule does not, naturally, apply to pilots." What the fuck? How is the discrimination two-fold? How are women the victims here? They ban male attendants but they still allow male pilots... therefore women are the victims of discrimination... ??? I think that there must be some law that news sources citing anti-male discrimination must …
/r/MensRights01/07/13 09:11 PM
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"A week goes by without sex? We notice. I get the feeling men don't monitor the situation in such a macro sense." She's so naive... She is the "high desire" partner and he is the "low desire" partner. It's not that "women" notice when time passes with little sex... it's whoever is the one who wants it but isn't getting it! And about half the time, the high desire partner will be the man. If someone like her wants to be able to slander her partners for not servicing her sexually whenever she want…
/r/MensRights01/07/13 08:52 PM
1

It's amazing how much the feminist ideas from 50 years ago apply today. Things like, "People with privilege have so much privilege that they don't even know they are privileged." ...RIGHT BACK AT YOU, FEMINISTS!
/r/MensRights01/07/13 08:45 PM
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Of course. But teen/tween girls are reading the shit out of romance porn featuring mummies and werewolves right now the same way that adult women are obsessed with kinky bdsm novels. Honestly, tween boys would be reading like crazy if mildly sexual adventure novels were targeted at them. But male sexuality is threatening and female sexuality is benign, so we are where we are.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 08:34 PM
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Female firefighters encounter less risk and have significantly lower physical standards and yet they expect "equal" pay (and are sometimes hired preferentially to meet quotas). The meaning of "equal" in "equal work for equal pay" is somewhat dubious. If I'm unconscious and trapped in a fire, I'm hoping that the firefighter that comes to rescue me is a fireman because otherwise I'm fucked.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 08:31 PM
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It isn't just boys lack of interest in books that is a problem. The method by which children are taught to read was changed to favor girls: http://www.standard.co.uk/news/boys-do-better-than-girls-when-taught-under-traditional-reading-methods-7184547.html When taught using the traditional methods, boys do better than girls. When taught using "contemporary" methods, girls outperform boys.... Now here is the most important point: both boys and girls do better when they are taught using the traditi…
/r/MensRights01/07/13 07:57 PM
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young adult fiction Hell, there is a section at my local book store called "paranormal teen romance".
/r/MensRights01/07/13 07:54 PM
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I have yet to see any feminist group publicly advocate for a cause in such a way that men are helped and women are hindered in the name of equality. They claim to be about "equality" but suspiciously only seem to support the gender they are named after. Sort of like an organization called "Basketball Fans Inc." saying that they want to support all sports equally, but only ever going to Bulls games... for, like, a century.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 01:42 AM
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That's true. I think that requiring (modestly) "tall" people is okay too because they need to be able to reach the shelves to assist with luggage. But my point is that they are saying that they want smaller people to save fuel, but rather than just making a weight limit, they are refusing to hire men. For a comparison, the military could say that they refuse to hire women because women are weak... except that was deemed sexist and women who pass the fitness tests are allowed... except that was d…
/r/MensRights01/07/13 01:26 AM
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My point was that they could easily say that they will only hire people under, say, 125 lbs... which would exclude the vast majority of men without having to actually make it an official sexist policy. That suggests to me that it actually is about hiring attractive women, and the fuel savings is just the misdirection.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 01:22 AM
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If you're doing it to save money because women are lighter, then why not cut out the middle-man and hire people who weigh less regardless of their gender? Oh right... because that would be discrimination.
/r/MensRights30/06/13 09:53 PM
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I don't know if I'd call it "justice" if she gets parole after 7 years...
/r/MensRights29/06/13 03:38 AM
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I'd love to see these links when you find them...
/r/MensRights27/06/13 03:25 PM
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I can tell you this: all the garbagemen and laborers should apply to be nursery workers. Every single one. Then they should collectively sue for discrimination when they are turned down and it is revealed that the nursery staff is 90+% female. I mean, why would anyone choose to be a road construction worker if it didn't pay more?
/r/MensRights27/06/13 03:24 PM
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Really? I thought that everyone was paying for their own health care?
/r/MensRights27/06/13 03:21 PM
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Also, the undercover officer specifically asks whether her husband is abusive and Doucet says that her husband never hit her and that the "hit" wasn't about domestic violence; she says that it was about him taking so much in the divorce and his "attitude". Nevertheless, she got off by claiming that she did it in self defense because she was afraid of her abusive husband.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 12:23 AM
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Allow me to suggest that this disagreement is one of the primary reasons that this subreddit is so great. So many communities like this become so single-minded that no dissenting opinions are allowed. In fact, the worst offenders outright ban dissenters... So the fact that we have made opposite points, yet both net positive votes, suggests that this community is still on the right track.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 04:16 AM
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I think feminism has provided the answer: quotas. Teachers must punish male and female students equally. If either gender receives more punishment than the other, then the school's behavior guidelines are thus unfairly biased against one gender. Compensatory changes to the school rules would need to be made to ensure "equal punishment for equal behavior". Hell! Why not change the legal system for adults so that equal numbers of men and women are incarcerated...
/r/MensRights20/06/13 02:39 AM
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The "77 cents" wage gap is the quintessential example of how a lie can become something of a "universal truth" if repeated often and loudly enough.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 07:53 PM
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"With his money!" There is no evidence of this. The article never mentioned money or careers except to mention that she had a good one. Please don't needlessly speculate lest this conversation look childish. However, if you want to talk about the general problem of the low-income partner initiating divorce because they are "bored" and then receiving alimony or child support... well, that's another story.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 07:40 PM
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By talking the way you are talking, you are trivializing our entire position. Please stop. There is no evidence that the woman is financing her interests using alimony or child support. The reason that this is a men's rights issue is that the story breaks the prevailing stereotypes about men, women, commitment, marriage, and divorce. Please stop lowering the level of discourse.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 07:38 PM
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If "height jobs" were as easy and cheap as boob jobs, it would be the most common surgery in the US. I really don't understand why height isn't the primary concern of all of these "body confidence" programs that focus mostly on overweight women. If you are a fat person, you can change that. You don't have to "learn to love your body", you can eat better and exercise and get a better body. If you're a short guy, you're fucked. They are the people who we should be teaching to "learn to love the wa…
/r/MensRights17/06/13 07:06 PM
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I can't believe that was part of the defense. That's just so fucked up. Even if the guy did force his wife to have sex with him, that isn't a defense for chopping his dick off when he was asleep! I mean, sure... if someone is trying to hurt you, then you can defend yourself. But this defense sounds like that Canadian case where the wife hired a hit-man to kill her husband. You can't reasonably claim that you fear for your life if the guy is asleep! Just leave the house and go to the police!
/r/MensRights17/06/13 07:02 PM
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This is a largely symbolic measure. There is no way that she will be able to pay even a fraction of it back. But if she can't make the payments because she's on public assistance, shouldn't she go to jail like all those "deadbeat dads" who can't afford their child support payments?
/r/MensRights17/06/13 06:57 PM
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Despite the men's "obsession" with breasts, women fetishize height far more than men fetishize breast size. Could you imagine if men rejected women with small breasts the way that women reject short men?
/r/MensRights17/06/13 06:52 PM
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Sorry yeah. I my mistake... I was typing something else at the same time...
/r/MensRights17/06/13 01:42 AM
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Yup. Everybody freaks out when Nintendo talked about "girlfriend mode" for Borderlands 2, but then feminists turn around and complain about games being too hard for women to play. You know what. These people are whiners; end of story. The only reason I'm upset is that that game companies, fearing bad press, will start to change games to make them less fun for whom gaming is their primary hobby and more fun for people who have only a passing interest in games.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 12:50 AM
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It could be that too. The point is that there is a myriad of factors that influence these stats and it's irresponsible for journalists to wildly speculate about the root cause when they have absolutely no evidence other than their own misguided intuition. But any time a "men vs. women" article gets written, there is invariably a pro-female spin placed in the rhetoric.
/r/MensRights15/06/13 10:32 PM
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You're a good wife. Hmmmm... Steak knives?
/r/MensRights15/06/13 10:22 PM
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"Feminism is a protracted shit test against western white males." To feminism, there is nothing worse than being a cis-gendered white male. It isn't considered sexist, or racist, or anything else-"ist" to overtly attack someone for being white and male. Now, I posted this chart on suicide rates on /r/mensrights and it got downvoted. But look at the stats (which are controlled for population size): white and native american men kill themselves at a rate way higher than any other population. Now I…
/r/MensRights15/06/13 10:21 PM
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As usual with these sorts of gender-based articles, the statistics are (relatively) scientific, but the subsequent speculation is most definitely not... The problem is that people will read an article like this and blend the facts and wild sexist speculation into one idea: "Yesterday, I read that people buy more gifts for mothers day because mothers do more for the family than fathers." It's so easy for people to blend the observation with the explanation that they find most attractive. Here's t…
/r/MensRights15/06/13 09:48 PM
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I hope that this doesn't come across as crass, but I think that it's very likely that your husband wants you a lot more than he wants some bullshit hallmark card. You know... maybe I will be crass... We spend so much time here discussing debating about objectification in media and other such gender-scholar nonsense that people consider what I'm going to say chauvinistic, or sexist, or even (hilariously) misogynistic. Your husband wants to have sex. And not just normal "every day" sex. Probably s…
/r/MensRights15/06/13 09:41 PM
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I didn't notice that. I think it must be because they want you to go to their website...
/r/MensRights14/06/13 10:37 PM
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I can't handle it. All the women that I work with gossip non-stop. They are constantly chattering and sharing information. It's playing some sort of office politics game of who will get what promotion and who is getting what raise. I just sit there quietly and do my job. I put in earplugs when necessary.
/r/MensRights14/06/13 10:21 PM
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The author couldn't possibly be a gamer, otherwise he would know that The Last of Us wouldn't possibly work with the daughter, Sarah, as the lead character. It wouldn't work. Why? Because the gameplay is about a ~230lbs man grabbing and beating the shit out of crazy monsters. Remember that, with games, gameplay comes first and the story comes second. Not only could a small teenage girl fight like that, but I think that there are probably only a handful of women in the whole world who would be be…
/r/MensRights14/06/13 10:19 PM
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The word is redundant, but there to be insulting and dismissive.
/r/MensRights14/06/13 10:05 PM
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Yes. Exactly. With no expectation that other female-dominated media should be changed to appeal to me. Prime time soap operas feature female protagonists and men in supporting roles. Should we demand that at least half of those shitty TV shows for women be changed to feature male heroes? Or is that really fucking stupid because most men don't watch crappy TV for women the same way that most women don't play Halo?
/r/MensRights14/06/13 10:05 PM
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That's amazing. She is saying that games that feature female protagonists should also be easy, which implies that women are bad at games. Which also explains why major game releases, targeted at good gamers, have male protagonists... because, by Sarkeesian's own logic, women aren't good enough to play them. Do games have to feature a female hero and be shitty for her to be happy?
/r/MensRights14/06/13 10:03 PM
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The sad thing is that this is a game where the player (apparently) does play as the female hero... just not the whole time. Why are they complaining about The Last of Us? Is it just that this was the very next game the author played? And of course the characters aren't "equal" - it's a father and a daughter; a parent and child. Of course the parent tells the child what to do!
/r/MensRights14/06/13 10:00 PM
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People wonder why I get irritated about the Sarkeesian videos. "If you don't care whether the hero is male or female, then why are you against her videos?" I have been asked. Here is why: "I played The Last of Us not long after watching the second video in Anita Sarkeesian’s absurdly well-financed YouTube series, “Tropes vs. Women in Video Games.”" This whole stupid article is prompted by people believing Sarkeesian's bullshit. A brilliant game like The Last of Us comes along and the New York Ti…
/r/MensRights14/06/13 09:53 PM
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Don't get upset about this. It's just a catchy title used for click-bait. The evidence is just based on a computational model - there really isn't any compelling physical evidence. These sorts of math-based experiments are almost never reliable. The actual study just says that one potential explanation for women going into menopause is that men don't want to have sex with them once they get old. If you make that assumption, then the math works. But you can go one step deeper: why don't men prefe…
/r/MensRights14/06/13 09:46 PM
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OP has been a redditor for 1 month with that account. Seriously OP. Just ditch the name. Also, this evidence is not particularly useful. The sample selected for an article is not scientifically selected. I could easily manufacture a statistic like "black people are the worst drivers" and then write an article where I highlight a bunch of major car accidents and then select 40 car accidents caused by black people and non-black people. I get the point that you are making, but there are more scient…
/r/MensRights14/06/13 09:40 PM
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It's nice that there are positive messages like this making their way into mainstream advertising. However, I always thought that companies did this for women but not for men because women are sponges for flattery and men see this as bald-faced manipulation. I don't get all warm and fuzzy and want to buy a toothbrush because a an advertising firm is sucking up to me. But I wonder whether this attitude contributes to the current climate of "mom's are the best; dad's need to do their jobs better".…
/r/MensRights14/06/13 09:32 PM
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You know, I actually wouldn't have a problem with the "teach men not to rape" thing if they handled it correctly. There are two major problems with the way it's typically written. #1. This is the big one. It's drawn down gendered lines. The sections should be for the "high libido" partner and the "low libido" partner. For the pursued and the pursuer. It shouldn't be a section for men and for women. There are lots of times when a woman wants to have sex with a man and he is uncomfortable doing so…
/r/MensRights14/06/13 09:29 PM
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There was that whole news report about the fight to get "Lad Mags" (like FHM) banned in the UK. I think it was posted here a little while ago. Their reasoning was misogynistic content. If feminism was about equality, wouldn't they be equally upset by Cosmo?
/r/MensRights14/06/13 05:59 PM
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Fucking nope. But I am a little surprised that the numbers are that skewed... 17% male - It's like they aren't even trying to seem interested in equal representation.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 02:30 PM
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The point isn't that I want men/dads to become sacred. I don't want it to suddenly "not be okay" to make fun of men the way that we can't make fun of women/muslims. What I want is for nothing to be sacred. For example, I don't have a problem with that stupid (Samsung?) evolving dad commercial that we got all upset about. I didn't find it funny, but it wasn't aimed at me. Who cares... But the fact that a similar commercial couldn't be done about women without being called misogynist is the proble…
/r/MensRights12/06/13 09:18 PM
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Men use more effective suicide techniques. Women are more likely to take pills while men are more likely to use firearms. Using a moderately lethal suicide method is often seen as a "cry for help". I think these interpretations are very difficult to validate. As well, the numbers are very fuzzy. If a woman takes a bunch of pills and then regrets the decision and calls 911, then that is considered a "failed attempt". However, a man might load a gun, put it to his head, but not fire it; then, he m…
/r/MensRights12/06/13 08:48 PM
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Here's your problem: "I think academic feminism is wrong then..." There has been a big conversation about women no longer identifying with feminism. That's why. Feminism claims to be about equality by definition, but the actions of prominent feminist groups, scholars, and social leaders contradicts this observation. The reason that many women no longer call themselves feminists is because they see that feminism's "messaging" and its actions do not line up. Since a huge proportion of feminism's l…
/r/MensRights12/06/13 08:38 PM
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NBA - best athletes on earth. WNBA - best women athletes on earth. In one case, you're watching the very best; in the other, you are watching the best people within a category. Watching the WNBA is like watching the all-white 100m dash, or the under 5'8" NFL. The athleticism, size, and skill level is lower in the WNBA. It's easier to illustrate in "track and field": The women's world record holder for most events wouldn't qualify for the men's olympics. The worst man is much better than the best…
/r/MensRights12/06/13 05:22 PM
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Feminists claim to want more women represented in tech, yet they do nothing but complain whenever they are featured. They are shooting themselves in the foot. If the problem was that it was a man beating a woman at the game while taunting her, but it would not have been upsetting if it was two men, then feminists are simply discouraging companies from featuring women. It's the same as the Sarkeesian videos. Every female protagonist will be criticized. Every female supporting character will be cr…
/r/MensRights12/06/13 04:04 PM
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I'm sad that Microsoft's response was to "admit" that the statement was offensive and apologized. They should have said, "That statement had nothing to do with rape. We are sorry to those who were offended, but the statement was not offensive." It would be like that school apologizing for making their logo a "rape wolf". You're giving them credibility if you apologize like that...
/r/MensRights12/06/13 03:59 PM
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To me, it's also proof that these complainers are the most sexist - because they see everything in terms of men vs. women. Me? I saw it as a match between a community manager vs. the video games designer. And the game's designer brought an unfair controller on top of that. Of course he won. It wasn't about sex/gender at all. The comment, "Just let it happen," wasn't about rape! He was just saying, "don't even bother trying to fight me; I'm just too good." You have to be thinking about rape const…
/r/MensRights12/06/13 03:57 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks that it sounds worse with the actual quote in context. He's actually citing the 77 cent figure. I mean, there is a more "honest" wage gap which is about 5% or so, which can be accounted for using intangibles. But continually citing the 77 cents gap is increasingly dishonest.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 06:17 PM
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Two party system... fucked either way.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 06:15 PM
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Edited: I'm dumb. Please don't mind me.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 06:13 PM
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Any time a man says anything that you don't like, you should post his photo on social media sites and try to ruin his life... #AdriaRichards
/r/MensRights09/06/13 08:21 PM
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Nothing to see here... Move along... Don't feed the trolls...
/r/MensRights08/06/13 06:08 PM
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Thanks for linking to that article. Awesome.
/r/MensRights08/06/13 06:06 PM
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Slow steady progress... Good work team.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 09:49 PM
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If anyone needs an explanation of the high rates of female-on-male domestic violence, they need only look at this video. The woman has absolutely no fear that the obviously much stronger man would fight back at all. His only recourse is to avoid her and wait for her, the woman carrying the weapon, to calm down.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 04:28 PM
2

Obviously everything on Reality TV is real... /s
/r/MensRights07/06/13 04:25 PM
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Is the reality TV show not partially culpable for not adequately intervening? You know... unless this is just contrived Reality TV bullshit that is designed to drum up ratings by getting posted on social networking sites...
/r/MensRights07/06/13 04:24 PM
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More male gamers = more male protagonists More male protagonists = more female loved ones More female loved ones = higher probability of "damsel trope" That's it. That's the whole paradigm. Occam's razor in effect - the above explanation doesn't need to evoke a giant patriarchal conspiracy. It's scary that so-called "skeptic groups" are being taken over by feminism in the form of "Atheism+"... because it appears that all these so-called "skeptics" are willing to throw away the scientific method …
/r/MensRights07/06/13 01:12 PM
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I think that most MRAs would admit that men have privileges. But I've talked to a few feminists who are unwilling to say the same thing about women. They believe that sexism cannot exist against men and they believe that women have no privileges.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 11:11 AM
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Interesting point. I actually don't think that I get "worked up" over most of these things. Rather, I think that this stuff gets posted to illustrate how feminists are full of shit. Because you know that SRS would get bent out of shape over a lot less. Look at the $160,000 video game videos complaining that "some games make the hero rescue his girlfriend." And then you think, "What if there was a brand of t-shirts and posters called 'girls are stupid; throw rocks at them'? They would freak out a…
/r/MensRights06/06/13 03:16 PM
1

I think the lack of self-awareness in feminism is amazing. I mean, they have this whole paradigm explaining "privilege" which says that "people with privilege don't know that they have it because they are so used to being privileged"... and then they turn around and say that only men have privilege. And you just want to shout, "But you literally just said that if you had privilege that you wouldn't be able to tell, like, 5 minutes ago!" I mean, the same could apply to the men's rights movement, …
/r/MensRights06/06/13 02:51 AM
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...Uh. Hmmm.... Could you revise the punctuation in that sentence? Because I cannot parse it to save my life...
/r/MensRights05/06/13 08:23 PM
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I grow tired of having to use this illustration... But can anyone imagine the backlash if 6 men forced a woman to have sex with all of them at knife-point... and the woman died after having sex with the 5th man... and the reporter said "some call it a rape".
/r/MensRights05/06/13 06:48 PM
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Schools make boys feel unwelcome in a myriad of ways. This is a small but incredible example of one of those ways – forcing a deaf boy to change his name. Because changing the way that a deaf child signs is pretty much changing his name. He identifies with that sign the same way that you or I identify with how we say our name.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 11:26 PM
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Of course they were. Because anyone who voted against would look like a "misogynist".
/r/MensRights03/06/13 11:13 PM
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I did love listening to the guy trying to figure out how to explain that the minister had lied without being forced to retract his statement... "She told a lie..." "She was not telling the truth..." "Okay... hmmm... She said it was a myth. Now I have provided proof that it is not a myth with very little effort..."
/r/MensRights03/06/13 11:12 PM
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I find it ironic that atheism+ exists as a mix of feminism and atheism since feminists holds a religious-like grip on their doctrine. Feminists are unable or unwilling to change their narrative. They have theories dictate observations rather than observations direct theories. They are willing to dismiss ideas as "myths" despite ample evidence of their existence. "Skeptics" should be looking at the data rather than kowtowing to ideologues.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 11:08 PM
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The friendzone isn't about being "owed sex". The friend zone is about unrequited LOVE. I find it very insulting that people are so dismissive of men's emotions: they assume that it's about "being owed pussy for being nice" when actually it's a profound sadness resulting from being in love with someone who doesn't love you back. Do all men "only want sex" to you? Is that how shallow you view us? According to wikipedia, the term "Friend Zone" was popularized by the show "Friends" where the charact…
/r/MensRights03/06/13 03:50 PM
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Spelling "ridiculous" wrong in the meme makes us look ridiculous. Hey OP, edit your meme to fix the typo.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 02:32 PM
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Here's an easy tip on how to remedy this situation – Introduce the content with prefacing statement to establish your opinion of the content. That way, people who are voting will be able to feel confident that an upvote will not be misconstrued as an endorsement. Example. This woman is ridiculous: http://i.imgur.com/y9ivr2e.png
/r/MensRights03/06/13 06:44 AM
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Yes. This is what I've been trying to "get at" with my essays. That gender studies-type analysis is horribly unscientific. They just force observations into their narrative. The also make the claim that women are forced into more narrow body types than men, but they never really support that claim with any evidence; but so many people just believe it because the idea isn't allowed to be challenged. For example, here is a post that got downvoted about Zelda characters and body types: "have a much…
/r/MensRights30/05/13 04:46 PM
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There are lots of body types and "looks" that both men and women find attractive. But my point was that the "top all time" pictures are all brown haired light-skinned men with very short beards.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 04:37 PM
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You're right. But the issue with "sexier" clothing is a bit dubious. "A tux is lingerie for men" is a phrase that I've heard quite frequently. When a man fantasizes about a woman, he's probably picturing her in underwear, but if "50 shades of grey" has taught us anything, it's that a woman's fantasy is a tall handsome man in a well-tailored suit. People complained that Black Widow had a sexy cleavage costume. And people probably don't think that the male Avengers were "sexualized"... but isn't i…
/r/MensRights29/05/13 09:34 PM
1

Honestly, Nintendo was actually trying to give feminists what they said they wanted in a game heroine. Look at Anita Sarkeesian (of Tropes vs. Women)'s thesis about male and female characteristics in media. She argued that females are only heroes when they emulate men. That Samus wasn't really a female character - just a female skin over the archetypal silent male hero. Female heroes, she argued, should be vulnerable, empathetic, emotional, and complex. Nintendo literally made Samus exactly what…
/r/MensRights29/05/13 07:03 PM
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Let's use that Swedish flexibility to solve the problem. Just have 20% of the men who receive high ranking jobs say they "identify as female". Problem solved. If someone says, "But you don't wear dresses, long hair, or makeup." then you just respond, "How dare you pigeon-hole a proud women like me to such restrictive gender roles!"
/r/MensRights29/05/13 06:53 PM
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I'm almost certain that "compliance" will be measured based on how many women your company has in senior positions. Not based on your policies to ensure that the best candidate is selected regardless of gender.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 06:49 PM
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Here's my equality and fairness policy: If you take 6 years off to raise 3 kids, then you are 6 years behind when you come back to your job. You don't get to be hired into a cushy board room job over of a person who has been working their ass off continuously for the past 6 years.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 06:48 PM
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That, and the fact that a very large women's academic, political, and lobbying organization would have to all decide to quit. Women's studies academics aren't going to just shut down their departments. The "Ontario’s minister responsible for women’s issues" isn't going to destroy her own position. The reason that we have to oppose them is because they are not going to stop pushing for advantages for women on their own.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 06:44 PM
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/new-rules-aim-for-equality-in-ontarios-corporate-boardrooms/article12184584/ Why didn't you link directly to the article?
/r/MensRights29/05/13 06:40 PM
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"Bill Burr" for those who don't get the reference.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 06:28 PM
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No. Grow up.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 12:16 AM
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Of course. Of course. But I can only imagine that, when push comes to shove, the decision to actually end someone's life is much harder than you might think it would be. My point was that I thought that his justification might be gender-neutral when I first heard about the deadlock. But nope. It's 100% because she's a woman.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 12:16 AM
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I wouldn't sentence any person to die. I expected that perhaps the Jury Foreman felt like I do - that even the worst of us shouldn't be sentenced to death. Nope. He said that he's totally fine with killing men, but not with killing women.
/r/MensRights26/05/13 10:36 PM
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Can we please not waste our time trying to decide if Arias is hot or not?
/r/MensRights26/05/13 10:34 PM
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Yes. You're right about that. But I'm not talking about biological reflexes. I'm talking about a conflicted person broadcasting contradictory signals.
/r/MensRights26/05/13 06:44 PM
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This is really funny, but there is also a good line of truth running through your comment. Part of the reason that Warren Farrel gets called a "rape apologist" is because he talked about a woman saying "no" verbally, but saying "yes" physically. Sometimes "no" does mean "yes". And it seems unfair to punish someone for momentarily not understanding conflicting signals. It seems like, legally speaking, the progression from "simple misunderstanding" to "rapist" is rather abrupt and sudden.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 02:40 PM
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Awesome. Subscribed.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 02:32 PM
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^ ^ Economy of punctuation. ^ ^
/r/MensRights24/05/13 02:30 PM
1

I don't want to seem insensitive, but does it seem strange to anyone else that people who are groped or verbally harassed are referred to as "survivors"? The term "survivor" means: "A person who survives, esp. a person remaining alive after an event in which others have died".
/r/MensRights22/05/13 02:23 PM
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Her story was that she was being attacked and was struggling with her husband for the gun when it accidentally went off. And I guess they must have believed her... despite the fact that she had no bruises, scratches lacerations, and there were no powder burns or other evidence that there was actually a struggle for the gun. But she said she was being attacked... And she must have been telling the truth... Because a murderer wouldn't just lie to get away with murder... certainly not a female murd…
/r/MensRights21/05/13 06:32 PM
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"A debate about men defined by women inevitably dwells on what's wrong with men..." Of course it does. It's socially unacceptable and politically incorrect to be proud of being a man or to talk about what makes men great. Anyone who does this is accused of being a misogynist and chauvinist. On the flip side, "Girl Power" has been encouraged for decades. If men are so powerful, then why are we silenced and criticized? If women are so powerless, then why are they so amplified and celebrated?
/r/MensRights21/05/13 06:28 PM
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I'm really sorry but that logic just doesn't cut it in this country. What if a company showed racist/sexist hiring policies? Would we just say, "This company is racist, but another company will come along and hire the people this company is prejudiced against?" No. Society has collectively decided that we won't just let the free market ensure fairness.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 03:17 PM
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It isn't the size of the groups, it's the proportion of discrimination. Ek0mst0p's scoff was due to the fact that blacks faced infinitely more discrimination during the time of segregation than men do today. The implication is that I was equating present-day anti-male bias with segregation... I wasn't. What I was saying is that Ek0mst0p's comments about men seem very racist when said about black people. They would be homophobic if said about gay people. Changing the subject like that is a standa…
/r/MensRights15/05/13 12:39 AM
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I'm not saying they are equal in scope. I am saying that your explanation doesn't hold water when framed in a different light.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 11:36 PM
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It doesn't matter that they refuse to serve black people... it's just a restaurant. You can always just go eat somewhere else, or cook for yourself at home. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nm5jl7aM08&t=1s
/r/MensRights14/05/13 10:18 PM
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...yeah. I cited him on purpose. Because even an SRS feminist thinks that evolutionary psychology is bullshit. So clearly there is a unilateral consensus on it being bullshit. Also, his "narrow range of expertise" is evolutionary biology...
/r/MensRights13/05/13 04:39 AM
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Dude, you're out of your element here... Gravity is 100% testable. The "just a theory" argument has no place here. Based on the way that you're phrasing your response, I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you and others around here think that my criticism of evolutionary psychology is a criticism of evolutionary biology. Those two aren't the same thing. In fact, evolutionary biologists are highly critical of evolutionary psychology...
/r/MensRights13/05/13 12:21 AM
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I'm referring to the men's issues presentation protests where a fire alarm was pulled to disrupt the talks. I was basically saying that the anti-men's rights tactics are becoming increasingly underhanded.
/r/MensRights13/05/13 12:15 AM
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In 1981, many people still thought that the wage gap was real. So the debate format made sense to both sides (each of whom believed they were right). However, in present day, we know that the wage gaps stats don't stand up to scrutiny, which is why we see tactics like fire alarm-pulling and name-calling. And why not just have an honest debate and let the truth speak for itself? Because academic feminism has built up an industry for itself. Tenured faculty run university women's studies departmen…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 10:36 PM
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When people say that "evolutionary psychology is bullshit", they mean the field. Of course evolution shaped behavior, but the problem is that evolutionary psychology creates hypotheses that are untestable...
/r/MensRights12/05/13 09:34 PM
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But evolutionary psychology is social science... how can it be fine until the people in their field get their hands on it? How exactly is a field composed entirely of untestable hypotheses and just-so stories "fine"?
/r/MensRights12/05/13 09:32 PM
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Since evolutionary psychology is known to be bullshit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_evolutionary_psychology http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/addiction-in-society/201012/is-evolutionary-psychology-total-utter-and-dangerous-bullshit http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/11/23/another-ugly-example-of-the-abuse-of-evolutionary-psychology/ One could change that headline to, "From a bullshit perspective, it can be argued that men..." Seriously, evolutionary psychology is basicall…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 08:01 PM
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This problem is rooted in the relativistic perspective of feminism. The issue is that you can take any occurrence and view it from the perspective of "patriarchy", meaning that every situation is anti-woman and pro-man... even when two occurrences are totally mirrored and thus logical contradict one another. For example: "Scouts are anti-female because it is a patriarchal organization designed to empower boys and disempower girls. Scouts is sexist and must allow female members." "It is important…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 01:48 AM
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You know, I think that it's possible that the characterization of sex as a "wifely duty" being the height of misogyny may be a miscalculation. And I think this article's assessment of sex being highjacked by feminism's negative beliefs about heterosexual intimacy is spot on... I mean, I personally see sex as a husband's duty - and if he is unable to perform for whatever reason, he should be obligated to offer other "services". And I think that we see it as a man's/husband's duty from a cultural …
/r/MensRights10/05/13 07:15 PM
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Why are we letting people who hate sex dictate so much of what students learn about sex. I hate to say it, but South Park's satire 100% right when the put this character in charge of the Sex Ed. program These people would have you believe that you had been sexually assaulted if you didn't feel like having sex but were "talked into it" by your wife or husband. Honestly - man or woman; straight or gay; if you are in a committed sexual relationship and your partner wants to have sex, you should hav…
/r/MensRights10/05/13 06:35 PM
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Nevermind, I watched it myself. Her CV has a list of "Keynote Addresses" and under that heading, she listed a talk she gave in 2010 in several cities. The prosecutor then produces the schedule of one of the meetings that she listed as a "Keynote Address" and the schedule does not list her as a keynote speaker. She claims that she was the keynote speaker of a breakout session, so she listed it as a "keynote address" because it was "a keynote" but not "the keynote". Furthermore, she actually gave …
/r/MensRights09/05/13 08:07 PM
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"The next day, the prosecutor caught her lying about that presentation on her CV." Can you elaborate? I'd love to hear that story...
/r/MensRights09/05/13 07:04 PM
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The strategies that the prosecutor uses to throw her off the witness of her game are fascinating, I agree. I found it particularly interesting how he changes directions by asking about one person and then immediately asking a followup about another. In other situations, he makes her look foolish by first asking a "yes/no" question in a way that makes her want to say "not exactly" and then asks a very similar follow-up to "clarify" that is obviously "yes". It makes it seem like she is being diffi…
/r/MensRights09/05/13 06:57 PM
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I'll just shamelessly link to my essay about men, women, and body image I posted last week. According to wikipedia, men are more negatively affected by body image than women now. In the essay, I argue that it is because 'body image' issues are seen as an exclusively female problem and men are given comparatively no support. This article is just more evidence to support that theory. TL;DR - As usual, our near-exclusive focus on girls, and the expectation that boys will "man up" and deal with thei…
/r/MensRights09/05/13 04:43 PM
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With all the other men's issues that seem so obvious and important to us, I find it fascinating that the catalyst for people realizing that men do face discrimination is women-only gym hours. I thought that it would be incarceration rates, or the draft, or parental rights, or education biases... but somehow people continued to justify that discrimination. There is something beautiful about a seemingly-trivial issue like the gym hours because it is so benign and yet so cut-and-dry. The situation …
/r/MensRights09/05/13 02:17 PM
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wouldn't have Edit to clarify: The common error "would of" comes from mishearing the contraction "would've" which is short for "would have".
/r/MensRights09/05/13 02:05 AM
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No. The first sentence of each definition is the definition. The second sentence is the emphasize that Atheism+ believes that misandry doesn't really exist but misogyny does.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 09:09 PM
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Here's another interesting pair of definitions: Misandry - hatred of or hostility towards men. Misandry is not reinforced systemically nor institutionally. (See also: Sexism) Misogyny - hatred of or hostility towards women, often seen as contempt. Misogyny is reinforced systemically and institutionally. (See also: Sexism) (Emphasis is mine.)
/r/MensRights08/05/13 07:21 PM
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Yes. But you can slice a population in a lot of ways, which doesn't necessarily mean it's right to do so. For example, lets partition the population by race. What if we find that Asian men pay out more than any other group? Would it be fair to charge all Asians more for their premiums? What if (hypothetically again) we discover that this higher payout rate is because they tend to drive more expensive cars and thus small fender-bender accidents cost much more to repair? See, in the above scenario…
/r/MensRights08/05/13 02:28 PM
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/driving-it-home/women-have-more-accidents-per-mile/article1372682/ This article states the facts, though it is through painful rhetoric (it refers to a bunch of bogus evolutionary psychology justifications for the observed stats). Women get in more accidents per mile. Men are more likely to be involved in fatal accidents. Men are involved in more total accidents because they drive more on average.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 03:54 AM
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As always, I'd like to point out that men get in less accidents per mile than women, but they drive much more. The effect is exaggerated if you exclude teenage drivers. They should be charging based on the average number of miles driven annually and not based on gender. Men who drive comparatively little are overpaying and women who drive a lot are underpaying...
/r/MensRights08/05/13 02:25 AM
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Makes you wonder about the dichotomy of boys doing better in objective courses like math and girls doing better in subjective courses like English... I've said it so many times, but I'll say it one more - when girls fell behind in Math and Science, they blamed sexism and huge efforts were made to improve girls' standings. Boys have always been behind in language skills (a largely subjective measure) and yet comparatively little is done to help them.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 02:13 AM
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In some parts of the world, sex with young female virgins are believed to be a cure for AIDS. I think that it's kind of an important poster if they are having problems with HIV spreading in this way... I don't want equality to get in the way of practicality.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 06:21 PM
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That isn't "woman". That's "girlwriteswhat". She's active in our community and she's made a ton of top-rated videos.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 06:22 AM
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I feel like this article is quote-mining a bit.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 03:19 AM
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Seriously, what the fuck. Wouldn't Canada benefit more from science and technology rather than bullshit gender studies? I mean, at least American feminism is trying to (unfairly) get more women into science, rather than get everyone into bullshit gender studies nonsense.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 02:52 AM
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I think that all of these issues are totally valid. The motivation for this post was not about trying to get more body image counseling for men and boys - it was about showing that the cultural perception that many problems only affect women is bullshit. Likewise, it's bullshit that solutions to these problems are not applied fairly. If you think that "body image" is an issue not worth investing in, that's fine with me. If you think it's incredibly important, that is fine too. What is not fine i…
/r/MensRights01/05/13 02:48 AM
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Fucking great. As if there wasn't enough anti-male attitudes in school already. With the current administration's attitudes about women in education, how long is it going to be until gender studies in high school is everywhere. Thanks bullshit Canadian university.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 08:37 PM
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There is a difference between 1) teaching boys to man up and deal with their problems, and 2) ignoring them and their problems.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 05:23 PM
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I could be wrong, but the interesting thing about this article is that they actually were studying men. I'd say that you hear at least 10x as much on this topic related to women. Furthermore, I think that the average person believes that women have it much harder when it comes to living up to impossible standards. And that is one of those self-informed myths that needs to be struck down. I don't have a dog in the "body image" fight, but I do think that we need to stop pretending that so many of …
/r/MensRights30/04/13 02:37 PM
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I think you're being a bit pedantic. You are intentionally misunderstanding my statement in order to put forth its meaning as its opposite. The point was that men have been shamed into believing that they deserve their second-class status - that being second-class is "fair".
/r/MensRights29/04/13 01:45 AM
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Don Cherry is clearly one of the last of the generation of men who weren't shamed into thinking that they are second-class-citizens. MacLean's generation has been conditioned to believe that the comment, "If men aren't allowed to go into the women's room while they change, then women aren't allowed to go into the men's room," is the equivalent of supporting segregated water fountains. As Cherry aptly pointed-out, there is a difference between equality and treating women like they are better.
/r/MensRights28/04/13 10:47 PM
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Fuck you with your "real man" bullshit. The guy in the article is in pain because of a painful rotator cuff injury, and anxious about surgery. The article is just classic female chauvinism/schadenfreude - delighting in the misfortune of men to celebrate the superiority of women. I'd be willing to bet that, if that woman was having surgery, her husband would be incredibly empathetic and dote on her. TL;DR - Fuck you again.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 02:18 PM
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A huge part of this is the fact that women do not receive the same lessons as men on violence - especially intimate partner violence.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 02:13 PM
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Good point. Withdrawn.
/r/MensRights25/04/13 01:58 PM
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I agree with that. Certainly there is a more legitimate source available, right?
/r/MensRights25/04/13 03:23 AM
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It can't be a coincidence that all the corrupt corrections officers were women though, right?
/r/MensRights25/04/13 03:23 AM
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Agreed. The suffix "man" does not make "fisherman" a gender-specific word. We don't even pronounce it "Fisher Man" we pronounce it "Fishermin". You would never call a female fisherman a "fisherperson".
/r/MensRights24/04/13 02:18 PM
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I thought that "White Knights" referred to men who come to the aid of a woman when it isn't justified. Here they are coming to break up a fight between two men. And from the wrong angle it would look like the young man attacks the older man - especially because the old man was tackled over the seats.
/r/MensRights24/04/13 02:10 PM
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It seems clear by the way that everyone is reacting that the guy was causing a disturbance which is why he was being confronted. I totally agree that the way he was physically attacked by those two people who confronted him was totally uncalled for, but with the entire crowd already against him, it's unsurprising he was ejected. I think he got screwed in being blamed for being attacked, but everyone already wanted him kicked out for making a disturbance. A woman who made a disturbance at a sport…
/r/MensRights24/04/13 05:33 AM
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The justification that I hear every time this comes up is that it comes down to social power. Black people can't be racist because of social power. Women can't be sexist because of social power. But here's the thing - if men have so much social power, why aren't they able to maintain their men-only clubs? If women have so little power, how have they been able to maintain their female-only clubs? If you went to a college and saw that there was a huge female majority. Then you saw that there was a…
/r/MensRights24/04/13 05:25 AM
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Looks pretty clear that the old man attacked the younger guy. Not sure what it has to do with men's rights, though? Is it that the woman hits him without reprisal?
/r/MensRights24/04/13 05:19 AM
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Exactly. Making him pay generates revenue regardless of circumstances. Hence the bias towards making him pay.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 03:55 PM
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I don't think that very many men would go to a "Curves"-type gym. But the "masculine" gyms you would expect to be male-only (like boxing or MMA gyms) actually go out of their way to have female classes and recruit more women students. The truth is that young, handsome, fit men are typically very happy to have women around. It's the men who desperately need to go to the gym, but don't, who would want to exercise without a judgmental eye nearby. Men who are overweight and feel self-conscious and u…
/r/MensRights19/04/13 02:19 PM
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I wonder if the author took a moment to contemplate the irony before posting his article. EDIT: For those who don't get it - it's ironic that the man is suing his gym for having female-exclusive hours and the article was submitted to the "women's" section of the website because there is no men's section. He publishing an article about how it's unfair that women have exclusivity privileges at a gym in a women's exclusive section of the website. That's irony.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 02:14 PM
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The state doesn't care about fairness. It cares about revenue. If it's going to be paying welfare, then it wants its cut of the child support. The thing is that the "right" thing to do would be for the mother to simply pay the father back the child support. Even if that happens, though, the government gets its misbegotten share, which is why they are making him pay regardless of whether it is "fair".
/r/MensRights19/04/13 02:07 PM
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Honestly, given the footage that was available on this topic, there is absolutely no way to run the story without making the women's studies students look like the bad guys. On one side you have scholars calmly discussing issues respectfully with plenty of data to back it up. On the other side you have epithet hurling criminal harassment attempting to prevent intellectual discourse. Even if City TV wanted to run an anti-male version of this story, they just didn't have any footage to use to incr…
/r/MensRights19/04/13 02:03 PM
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It's not an example of a direct double-standard, but rather a revealing example of an entirely different situation - that referring to men using any genital term is not nearly as offensive as referring to a woman using a "gendered" insult. Calling a man a "dick/cock/tool/wiener/prick" are all considered fairly benign insults. When Penn and Teller did a bullshit episode on swearing, a bunch of "experts" happily said every word in the book until a shock-jock asserted, "No, I won't say 'the c-word'…
/r/MensRights19/04/13 01:58 PM
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Please stop posting daytime TV judge shows. Judge Judy is scripted, fake, and has nothing to do with the real legal system.
/r/MensRights16/04/13 05:37 PM
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Perfectly succinct and airtight explanation. Just remember that logic and feminism go together like peanut butter and bleach.
/r/MensRights15/04/13 09:50 PM
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I meant for it to be a joke. Whenever there is a similar shooting and a man is the perpetrator, we are forced to endure countless articles about men in general, as if half the population bears some responsibility for the actions of one lone psychopath. Oh... and 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. I'm telling you man, that shit is due.
/r/MensRights15/04/13 04:55 PM
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I'm just going to sit here and wait for the articles to pour in about: how there is something inherently female about murder suicides, how women are not responsible enough to own guns, how women dominate the home with violence, how the world would be safer if there were more male police officers, how women have a culture of violence, how women have a responsibility to prevent violence from violent women, and how women suffer from "estrogen poisoning" which causes them to lose control and do viol…
/r/MensRights15/04/13 04:39 PM
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Seems like rageporn clickbait to me. Not interested in giving them any more ad revenue. Downvoted.
/r/MensRights15/04/13 04:11 PM
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Happy to help. It was the perfect reference.
/r/MensRights15/04/13 03:41 PM
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Link for the uninitiated: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExWfh6sGyso
/r/MensRights15/04/13 03:33 PM
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It's about having daughters vs. having sons. If Louis CK had two sons in grade school he would see the world differently. Edit: After having thought about it more extensively, I wonder whether this is part of a very carefully designed act. He loves to "get away with" saying very offensive things, and part of how he does this is by building up politically correct credit with the audience. He gets away with jokes that should end up getting him lambasted Daniel Tosh-style by kowtowing a bit before …
/r/MensRights15/04/13 12:52 PM
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40% * 3 = 120% The proportions of men and women don't have to be equal; they just have to be within the quota range.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 07:00 PM
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I'm sure that MechPlasma meant "between 40% and 60%". The same way that I'm sure you meant "20% 3rd gender".
/r/MensRights12/04/13 06:46 PM
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Like it or not, conservatives seem to be the only ones who are willing to get on-side with the MRM. Personally, I'm horrified by Obama's remarks about men's dwindling enrollment in higher education as a victory for America. But feminism is too deeply entrenched in liberal politics and women are willing to be single-issue voters. Many will vote for the "women's issues" candidate, regardless of other issues. Until men are willing to do the same, we will continue to see women's issues dominate poli…
/r/MensRights12/04/13 06:17 AM
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Feminists really want men who are born today to pay for the sins of their forebears. I find it incredible when you hear a 20 year-old feminist blogger talk about how men deserve to be second-class citizens because of all the advantages that they have enjoyed historically... guess what, 20 year-old American woman, you have all the advantages of a privileged group and have endured none of the disadvantages of your grandmothers and great grandmothers. Furthermore, I find it incredible when people s…
/r/MensRights12/04/13 06:10 AM
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That's pretty much the point, isn't it. Construction is backbreaking work with a comparatively modest wage for the effort. I don't see a lot of women signing up to be laborers. Every metric you look at shows that women value "work/life balance" over salary - essentially, this means that they'd rather stay dry and indoors for a pay decrease. Lastly, construction is a physically demanding job and the average man can simply do more work that the average woman. So in a meritocracy, hiring men is pre…
/r/MensRights12/04/13 03:45 AM
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I agree with your final point about fights, though it seems like physical confrontations between girls are becoming more prevalent. Physical bullying of boys by girls is especially a problem in school because 1) boys are never allowed to hit back and 2) girls hit puberty faster and typically have a major size advantage over late-blooming boys for a number of years.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 03:15 AM
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but when you actually try to address men's issues, they say that feminism is already working on them. You are right, but it's even worse than that since they actively try to suppress men meeting to work on their issues. And from the videos I've seen, it's pretty serious suppression - felonies are committed to stop men's rights talks.
/r/MensRights11/04/13 08:15 PM
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I suppose I was trying to be rhetorical in my first point.
/r/MensRights11/04/13 08:04 PM
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Though I hesitate to ask... link to the tumblr?
/r/MensRights11/04/13 07:59 PM
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I wasn't arguing either side. I was merely illustrating the double standard. There are many situations where I actually don't care one way or another, I just want everyone to be consistent in the application of the rules. In other situations, my personal moral views conflict with my acknowledgement of legal implications. For example, I personally find the idea of "creep shots" incredibly distasteful. Nevertheless, I acknowledge that making it illegal to take someone's picture in a public place w…
/r/MensRights11/04/13 07:52 PM
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Yes. For exactly the reason we are talking about right now, in fact. They only want people to review an app if they have actually used it and are actually criticizing it based on how it works. They don't want people mass downvoting EA games on principle, for example. Furthermore, they want the reviews to come from the app's target audience. For example, in this case, scrupulous, sociopathic women who want to discuss and control men's dating habits may find that Lulu is actually the best app arou…
/r/MensRights11/04/13 07:44 PM
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I think that I wasn't clear enough. I don't actually believe that she was an actress. Rather, I felt as though I was watching a play unfold because she was so over-the-top and stereotypical. Like I said, if I wrote a play that featured a stereotypical feminist, I couldn't have imagined one more crazy. Feminists cite the trope of the "Straw Feminist" (a play on the "Straw Man Argument) where works of fiction feature a stereotypical shrill, rude, insensitive feminist that is easy to criticize. Tur…
/r/MensRights11/04/13 06:45 PM
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I don't have the link. But I can give you the gist of the comments: It was a back and forth discussion of people saying either, "You are a disgusting and terrible person," to which the other half said, "That is why this is such a good use of Confession Bear... but I still find OP disgusting".
/r/MensRights11/04/13 06:39 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Feminism/comments/19g0hz/lulu_app_for_rating_men_its_just_as_creepy_as/ Yes
/r/MensRights11/04/13 06:30 PM
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You mean like this: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-21/man-jailed-for-facebook-sex-ratings-comments/4212574
/r/MensRights11/04/13 06:27 PM
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Is it worth downloading the app and increasing their download count in order to give it a 1 star rating and explain why it is so disgusting on iTunes?
/r/MensRights11/04/13 06:25 PM
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How is this different than that guy who was thrown in jail for reviewing women he dated on facebook? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-21/man-jailed-for-facebook-sex-ratings-comments/4212574
/r/MensRights11/04/13 06:24 PM
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The biggest indicator that feminists don't care about men's rights is that they are such massive opponents of men being able to address their own problems and advocate for their rights. If we are "on the same side" like they say, then why are they picketing men's rights events? Shouldn't they be attending and supporting us? If we're a team, shouldn't they be listening to why we are dissatisfied with their positions and working with us to be more inclusive? I'm pretty sure that the most common ph…
/r/MensRights11/04/13 06:21 PM
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Honestly, I have the weirdest feeling like that woman was an actress or something. She was such a caricature. I kept waiting for her to come forward with her own video showing her dying her hair and changing her clothes in order to appear like a feminist stereotype in order to make some point about the MRM's perceptions of feminism. I swear that I thought I was watching some sort of play the whole time I watched that video. How could she possibly be stupid enough to say, "Shut the fuck up, fuck-…
/r/MensRights11/04/13 06:18 PM
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Very similar to the number of women who insist on having a female doctor because it makes them feel more comfortable. However, one can imagine the accusations of misogyny if a man refused a female doctor. Anecdotally, male nurses seem to face serious discrimination from female patients as well.
/r/MensRights11/04/13 06:11 PM
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Yes. This is just as disturbing as the confession bear that stated the man was a coach who created homosexual initiation rituals for his own sexual gratification from observing teenaged male athletes.
/r/MensRights11/04/13 06:10 PM
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I think that statistics like 1 in [small number] [type of person] will be sexually assaulted undermines the issue. By grossly inflating the number of assaults in order to assert prevalence, they group insignificant incidents in with serious violent crimes. For example, we frequently see types of mild coercion get lumped into rape statistics - coercing an existing sexual partner into sex is not the same as sexual activity with an unconscious person. It has reached the point where these inflated s…
/r/MensRights11/04/13 06:03 PM
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There was no, "heh". It was not motivated by chauvinism. The fact that men's sports are more popular is because they represent the best people in the world. Women's sports represent the best women in the world. One could create an NBA where you have to be short or Chinese, but one would not expect it to do as well as a basketball league where there are no restrictions on participation.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 05:46 PM
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Thanks for contributing to the discussion.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 04:21 PM
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What a strange opening to this article - the idea that men are suggesting that we men claim our "experiences are the real thing" because we say that women's sports don't measure up? Women's sports don't "measure up" because they literally don't measure up. Women don't run as fast or jump as far, period. If a woman could even marginally compete with men, she would be in the NBA/NFL/MLB so fast. She would make a fortune.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 03:39 PM
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To be honest, I typed a much longer original comment about this, but deleted it and replaced it with the above because I assumed it wouldn't get read. As another user helpfully pointed out, of the movies in the database, about 45% fail at least one of the 3 criteria. That's supposed to be "more than we think", but there isn't a number or explanation to compare that against. Is it a lot? I'm not sure. I imagine that it has to do with films having a man as the primary pro- or antagonist. The prota…
/r/MensRights02/04/13 02:19 PM
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I continue to be dumbfounded by how incomplete the Bechdel test is as a real social experiment, and this video is typical of that. They admit that the test is not enough to condemn or absolve a film, but rather the test is "about trends". But we never see the trends. Look at this video - the guy says that the test exists and that lots of films fail it, but we never see the statistical analysis or trend line explicitly quantifying the problem. Just that "more movies than you would think" fail the…
/r/MensRights02/04/13 02:44 AM
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Got it linked out of an article on the front page. Didn't notice it was so old. My bad. It was new to me, so I thought that it was worth sharing.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 05:44 PM
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Would it be fair to say that today's feminist movement had to become more extreme because the goals of the original feminist ideology have already essentially been reached in most modern western societies?
/r/MensRights01/04/13 05:29 PM
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libertarian feminist (and a sane type of feminist) What I find confusing about the disjointed contradictory collection of ideas that all call themselves feminism, is that it is often presented as a united front when it is clearly built of factions. You will hear the counter-argument to our criticism of feminism that feminism is "only about equality", when clearly only some faction are. What I do not understand is why the feminist that are "sane" (to use your words) do not spend more effort to de…
/r/MensRights01/04/13 05:15 PM
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Interesting video. Was there no feminist outcry from the college's women's studies students and faculty? The prevalence for "slut walks" and "rape culture awareness" seen on today's american campus suggests that there must have been some sort of counter-protest...?
/r/MensRights01/04/13 04:50 PM
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I will put forth this challenge: I do not believe that feminism, as an organized movement, has ever noticed an inequality where women had an advantage over men and then actively campaigned to disadvantage women and assist men to restore equality. If it has ever happened, I would really appreciate someone citing an example. The reason that this has never happened is because feminist dogma dictates that it is impossible for a society to be sexist against men. So they can easily turn a blind eye to…
/r/MensRights01/04/13 04:47 PM
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Wow. That quote is very illuminating. While it doesn't always happen, I frequently present a devil's advocate opinion here in /r/mensrights, and it is usually discussed and debated rationally, if not fully embraced by the community. I think the acceptance of debate and dissent is what separates us from /r/feminism.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 04:43 PM
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No offense, but I think that the discussion is helpful. Very helpful. See, the deconstruction of feminist ideas about men and the exposure of biased women's studies statistics are an important part of changing the zeitgeist. Information is powerful. Knowing that, 1) the 77% wage gap is a myth, and 2) exactly how and why these statistics are wrong, is enormously powerful. See, the conversation starts here on /r/mensrights. We debate and discuss ideas until they have been properly vetted. Then the…
/r/MensRights01/04/13 03:52 PM
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I agree with you about this article. One cannot write an article about "unfair" sexism against women while simultaneously making sexist attacks on men. It's the height of hypocrisy.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 03:38 PM
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You know, I honestly wouldn't mind these little jabs if it was socially acceptable to still use mild jabs at women's expense like "throw like a girl". But that would be classified as a "micro-aggression" but by tumblr-feminism. I don't want to become an SRS-style culture police. So I think it's important to point out the double-standard, but not actually get upset about "sexism" with such mild taunts. What I fear is that, by making us hypersensitive to anti-male "micro-aggressions", SRS-style fe…
/r/MensRights01/04/13 01:46 PM
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I think that we're blowing this out of proportion. The comment seemed tongue-in-cheek. I realize that it's still offensive for her to joke about the stereotype of men caring for children, but I don't think that we was really being serious.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 01:53 AM
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Indeed. At my middle school it was considered inappropriate and sexist for boys to have pictures of "babes" in their lockers. So the teachers did a school-wide search of all the boys' lockers and took down all the photos in their lockers. The teachers then taught a lesson on sexism and how boys and men have unfair advantages at school and in the workplace. I asked how it's possible that a school with a female principal and female teachers applied a double-standard to punish boys was an example o…
/r/MensRights29/03/13 10:30 PM
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Poe's Law in action.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 05:46 PM
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Or "rape apologist".
/r/MensRights28/03/13 05:45 PM
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Well, that's sort of my point here. Any time there is a discussion about feminism, you will hear people say that feminism is about equality - that people are misrepresenting feminism. And my point here is that, if feminism really was about equality, they should be against the leniency for women in this article. This is just another piece of evidence that what feminism claims to be about and what it is about are two different things...
/r/MensRights26/03/13 08:34 PM
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If you are wondering, yes this video is worth 10 minutes.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 06:28 PM
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Well... not exactly. You said that the guy was fired even though he was "uninvolved". So you need to provide evidence that 1) he was fired, and 2) that he was fired for a reason relating to Adria Richard's false accusation. If that guy was fired because he didn't meet his sales quota, then it has nothing to do with Richards accusation. Or are you just saying that it's bad that people ended up in the background of her photograph?
/r/MensRights26/03/13 05:08 PM
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You would think that, if feminism was really about equality, they would be advocating for either, 1) Arguing that this new system be abolished, or 2) Arguing that men should have equal opportunity to go to the alternative system.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 04:34 PM
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For those who are confused, she makes a "dongle" joke here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61fXa9hTowY&t=38s It sort of undercuts all those people who said that "sexual dongle jokes have no place at a tech conference where developers are representing their employers" after the "Donglegate" controversy.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 03:57 PM
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Right. And why was that guy fired?
/r/MensRights26/03/13 03:52 PM
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Good point. I hope that they would ignore a DDOS attack and respond to public outcry, but it's definitely possible that it's the other way around.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 09:26 PM
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It think it is. I was being sarcastic.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 05:24 PM
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There is no question that Adria Richards went to PyCon with a plan to publicly criticize the first man who made a vaguely sexual comment. Her entire self-aggrandizing blog post is clear evidence that she wanted to make herself into a feminist "martyr", fighting the obviously male-dominated tech industry. It was her plan all along.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 04:41 PM
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It's prominent in tech culture because it is predominantly male and thus female victim status-power is at its highest there. I've mentioned this before, but it's not uncommon to have all keynote addresses at conferences in predominantly female fields, like nursing, be women. Because such a conference is overwhelmingly female, singling out men would seem like bullying. Claims of misogynistic culture at a nursing conference would be met with skepticism and requests for evidence. Yet they can make …
/r/MensRights22/03/13 04:29 PM
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Let's not forget that the only reason she is being fired is because of the subsequent outrage. If we were all silent, then she would have just been encouraged to continue her own personal crusade.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 02:37 PM
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Explaining a joke is like dissecting a frog. You understand it better but the frog dies in the process.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 02:33 PM
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Didn't you hear that her job was "tech evangelist"? The word "tech" is right in her title. (Seriously, though... I have no idea what that means.)
/r/MensRights22/03/13 02:24 PM
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My comment on that post is "awaiting moderation": Perhaps I have been mislead about what was actually said, but if the “inappropriate” joke was about a “big dongle” then you guys are completely out of your mind for firing that person. Like totally completely insane. Honestly, that sort of benign double-entendre could probably slip by in a PG-rated family comedy. I do not believe that this should be interpreted as a “sexual comment” which violated the Pycon code of conduct. The fact that the expr…
/r/MensRights22/03/13 02:22 PM
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I can't be the only one who infers the corollary, which is that she believes women cannot be sexist because "men are the oppressors who have the power"... As I have pointed out before - a black woman tweets a complaint about a white man and the white man is kicked out and fired. Certainly that is an example of power.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 01:52 PM
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Your point would have been more effective if you had kept your tone more professional. In fact, those tweets would have spoken for themselves without your commentary.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 01:50 PM
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Seriously. And can we stop pretending that adult women are shy wilting flowers who cannot handle PG-13 humor. As if mild jokes are somehow a male tool used by the patriarchy to keep women down. I have seen enough women reading 50 Shades of Gray in public to know that middle-aged women know a lot more about kinky sex than I do.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 01:40 PM
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Yeah. This really jumped out at me as contradictory. Maybe there is more than the two pieces of evidence that were not listed... A lack of quality female speakers is reflected in a lack of quality female quality female developers - which isn't to say that there aren't any, but what percentage of mid/top positions are held by women? The speaker demographics reflect the industry. As evidence, the 3 speakers at this nursing conference were women. Not a sexist policy - just more women are nurses. Th…
/r/MensRights22/03/13 01:37 PM
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I have tweeted this comment and you are now banned from Pycon 2014.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 12:36 PM
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Official logo for Pycon 2014.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 12:34 PM
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Adult women aren't weak wilting flowers who can't handle the occasional double entendre. Every woman that I work with would be on-side with Team Dongle and would be wearing a Dongle T-Shirt in support.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 12:32 PM
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I love this comment. Love it. I think that everyone should go out of their way to use "dongles" in this way as much as possible. Let's make it ubiquitous. If you go to a tech conference, wear a t-shirt that has a picture of a USB drive on it.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 05:57 PM
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The most offensive part is the way that she and her supporters feel totally justified in making that guy lose his job. Like they are on some holy quest to save future generations from mildly sexual euphemisms and double entendres.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 12:15 PM
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I'm starting to feel the Streisand effect... how about you guys?
/r/MensRights21/03/13 12:12 PM
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Whether it is good or not is irrelevant. It's still a top-selling, high profile release.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 04:50 PM
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Could you perhaps enlighten me what "actual feminism" is compared to other types like "tumblr feminism" or "radfem" or whatever. I associate feminism with gender scholars and women's studies. I associate it with people who say, "Men cannot be the victim of sexism because they are the powerful class and the powerful cannot be discriminated against by the powerless." But look at the recent technology conference controversy - a man whispered to his friend a benign joke about "big dongles" and a wom…
/r/MensRights20/03/13 04:47 PM
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I wasn't criticizing HotS at all.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 04:42 PM
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Sorry, if I spoiled something for you, but I did put "spoilers" in the headline and didn't mention who I was referring to...
/r/MensRights20/03/13 04:38 PM
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There is a petition to get a developer rehired at "Play Haven" which matches the description of this scenario, but I don't know for certain if that is where we should be directing our rage. If someone finds out, I would really like to publicly never ever purchase anything from them ever again.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 04:19 AM
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