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No, but we are alot more merely animals than 90% of people think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 09:56 PM
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We cannot all be astronauts and rockstars though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 09:50 AM
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Yes all my good relationships have started with sex pretty early except one, strong "chemistry" is not a guarantee but it is a prerequisite. The exception was the mother of my two boys who was a virgin when we met. Generally speaking if there is not atleast some level of "can't keep our hands off each other" by 2nd or 3rd date(assuming a guy with some confidence obv) then its not worth pursuing except in special circumstances, life is too short, if a woman is actually making you wait then she is…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:37 AM
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Womens standards are not the problem, women projecting on men is the problem, most women seem to think that the kind of guy they can get to dick them is the kind of guy they could realistically have a relationship with, because women will generally not fuck guys they would never want to be in a relationship with. This gets us alot of posts from frustrated males complaining about womens standards, and alot of posts from women crying about commitmentphobic guys ghosting them after sex because wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:25 PM
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Projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:55 PM
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I get the feeling of just wanting to give up in everything, I used to struggle with depression and have had health issues that almost killed me which changed my perspective alot and made me appreciate just not being in pain, but we only have one life and really have nothing to lose if we are going to keep breathing anyway? The only thing that can kinda compensate for being short is being strong, it will make you seem and feel more masculine and I have seen short muscular guys do okay with women …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:11 AM
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I have definately felt like that at times, especially when I was younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:09 PM
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Yep, people have weird beliefs about how the human body works, I have seen guys look totally different after working out for a few years, even without gear, even older guys getting into it, I have seen guys going from looking like boys to looking like men in a couple of years of starting to lift, often changes their face quite a bit aswell.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:51 PM
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We dont need to compete with the top guys though, we just need to pass threshholds. Some guys having it easier does not help me, I just put in the work I need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:38 PM
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True, there are diminishing returns and roid freaks are definately a niche product, the difference between not working out and a year of solid beginner gains is mindblowing though. As usual: "dont listen to what women say, watch what women do".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:35 PM
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Easy to counteract with moderate pineapple consumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:14 PM
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Attraction is not a choice and has little to do with higher reasoning, it does affect our reasoning though, in a much stronger way than reasoning affects attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:08 PM
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Muscles is often the difference between "chemistry" or not, the most amazing thing was how much my personality improved by lifting, suddenly my nerdy and quirky personality was alot more interesting, funny how that works lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:05 PM
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Duh, hit the gym bro, also T level can be impacted significantly by lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:53 PM
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Pretty much, it would be super easy to exploit but we dont, and the guys that would will probably give off a different vibe to begin with, or atleast I would like to think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:01 PM
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It seems to be pretty common at events with big age range and involving alcohol in my experience, I dont mind the hugs and stuff and will flirt back a bit but other than that I dont think it would be right to actually reciprocate any further.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:58 PM
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Its a small subset of older men, not even sure its statistically significant. Its also a matter of access and social stigma, I had an fwb for awhile who was much younger than me but I dont think she bragged to her friends about it and I dont think most people would have approved lol, it was chance encounter, I could not have been seeking her out without coming off as a creep. my girlfriend is younger by more than a decade but its different after 30 I think. I will say I had more luck with women …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:15 PM
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Sorry I went off in you a bit like you were some kind of npc, had you pegged as some kind of stereotypical black pill loser because of your initial comment, that was probably not fair. We agree that "hit the gym bro" is actually good advice, I probably just think its more significant because I did not have any other big issues holding me back, only slightly below avg height, kinda average looks but not a very masculine face, no real social issues, some game etc. I was actually chocked at the dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 03:33 PM
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Worst case scenario you will just be healthier and feel better, but for me it was a total gamechanger with women, started to really notice after about 6 months, also fixed my low testosteron issue which in turn mostly fixed my depression issue. Concidering how much time we waste on useless things its guaranteed to be a good time investment, I often work out when watching Netflix, yt or listening to audiobooks instead of doing the same but just sitting on my ass, especially kettlebell and dumbell…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:47 PM
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No one is denying height is an advantage? Can you have the appearance of more absolute strength than guys much taller than you? Yes easily, will girls find you much more attractive if you do? Fucking obviously, can you still self sabotage beyond what that advantage can save you from? Yes, can other factors be so detrimental that you still fall below the threshhold for almost all women? Yes but not because you are a couple of inches too short or some nonsense about your jawline probably, can your…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:18 PM
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Yes obviously, for most guys it will be a gamechanger imo, I used to work with alot of young asian guys in restaurant business, it seemed like basically a magic bullet for them with white women. Its insane how powerful an attraction trigger physical strength is, we are basically still cave apes working on wetware that has not changed much in thousands of years. Edit: also works for ugly guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:59 PM
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There are plenty of studies on this if you care enough, I am on my phone. 5'4 has to suck, thats at the point where its an uphill battle for sure, atleast in the west, not denying that, thats very different from whining about not being 6'2 though. My issue is only with guys complaining but not willing to put in work, I used to be fat and constantly struggle not to become fat again, I always had a bit of a baby face and I have plenty of other issues. There is one study: https://royalsocietypublis…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:47 PM
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Kind of agree but its a very subjective take, I think more guys are miserable because they live for others or care too much about the world and not enough about themselves. My advice to guys would be: learn to get what you want in life and then worry about the rest once you figured that part out, you dont have to be purely selfish but get you priorities straight. Obviously the path to getting what I wanted was helped by being a guy that people like and women desire, if a guy is actually just pur…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:51 AM
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I have sympathy for black pillers, until I find out they have never lifted a dumbell. I strongly believe that "hit the gym" is the best single piece of dating advice for nerdy guys especially, they may have other issues holding them back but nothing else is as impactful and foolproof.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:05 AM
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I had a similar realization after reading some "20 things NOT to do when trying to seduce women" post on a pua forum 2 decades ago, I was like omg thats me lol, alot of it kinda made sense but I just had not really thought about it, alot of it went against everything I thought I knew.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:57 AM
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I dont think he is about doing other people favors? While I dont exactly share his views being able to think a bit more selfishly about what I want instead of caring about the world or trying to be someone for other people definately made me a much happier person, more guys should embrace that, its okay to put yourself first, even as a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:43 AM
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Same, success with women made me like women alot more, I did have a short spiteful period after all my illusions and cultural programming was shattered where I acted like the type of guy I used to hate and got rewarded with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:35 AM
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Because alot of guys dont feel to fondly about their exes, and for alot of us getting with girls in their 20s was alot easier at 30 than it was when we were 20, so we will probably have more attractive options than a returning ex. Also contrary to popular narratives guys are not just bitter, usually something happined that made a guy bitter, often experience with an ex when we were younger, wounds heal but we still carry the scars.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:23 PM
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I am getting too old to date girls my own age, kinda felt like that when I was 30 sometimes aswell but I definately am now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:09 PM
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Nah, I will bang exes but I dont get back together as a general rule, they are ex for a reason. And I like most of my exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:02 PM
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Most guys could benefit from taking half a red pill atleast, being a member of red pilled community is probably not helpful long term, succesful rp guys learned what they needed and continued on in life, they are not constantly active on red pill forums for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 02:00 PM
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Dont listen to what women say, watch what women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 01:49 PM
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I used to keep it pretty low effort, not because I am lazy but because it seemed to get better results. Guys dont make the rules, we just play the game. You should not concern yourself with how women generally feel about these things, not your responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 01:44 PM
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Many guys will tolerate alot just to get their dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:49 PM
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Yes, in that case intentionally trying to embrace some masculine interests and behaviors can be helpful romantically. The worst is guys intentionally rejecting their masculinity because of some misguided political nonsense or because they hate their dad, seen a few guys sabotage themselves like that, its sad. Know a guy who it turned out had a serious hormone deficiency, finally getting help changed his life completely in a matter of months, like he finally went thru puberty for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:37 PM
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For a guy who has some interest in typically masculine things naturally its the way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:11 AM
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Sounds pretty masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:54 PM
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We do sometimes care when logically planning our future, it just has no impact on attraction we feel whether she is a broke girl at checkout counter who dropped out of college or a millionaire law firm partner, checkout girl wins if she is more cute and makes us feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:46 PM
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On phone and dont have links on hand sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:57 PM
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Also alot more violence in lesbian relationships than in straight ones, and alot less in gay male relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:21 PM
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The rare really interesting post on PPD, Thanks for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:10 PM
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That a pretty decent dick size if you are not fat? I think I actually grew a bit during a period when I was edging alot when masturbating. I had women complain I was too big and I am 17ish.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:59 PM
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Below 4in is actually pretty small, I could see that being an issue depending on geography, on the other hand I have had girls complain I was too big, even a few relatively tall white girls, and I am about 6in. Edit: Well 17cm so a bit above.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:46 PM
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The old "latin lover" meme/stereotype is mainly because latin american men are not circumcised and thus generally better in bed. In reality pretty much all women massively prefer sex with uncircumcised men even if they think they dont because of some weird cultural hangup.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:35 PM
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I had a time when I was not into girl who were "too perfect" as in too conventionally beautiful, after I started having an easier time getting laid that changed again, I think most guys have kind of adaptive preferences/standards like that? Sex is best with fit thin girls who are slightly shorter than me, and with some girls my slightly curved dick just really hits the spot so thats a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:12 PM
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I was talking to the guy, about guys exploring their options.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:28 PM
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I remember my time on ThaiCupid fondly heh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:19 PM
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Fun fact: Sweden has the highest concentration of Thai women in Europe, some feminist politician was freaking out about it and wanted to make laws preventing Swedish men from marrying Thai women, All the usual exploitation narrative nonsense aka she has never actually met Thai women, they can be super loyal and sweet if you treat them right.... If you dont though, lol. And as we know its never actually about any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:07 PM
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I think for half of men atleast OLD is totally useless, and for a small group of men its an all you can eat buffet, those are the commitmentphobes that ghosted after sex women complain about btw. irl is different but OLD just takes up so much space, its a different world now, bars and clubs are not what they were, and hobbies and events is relatively limited depending on location and the guy. I think its a matter of perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:46 PM
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I have no problem with paying for sex, I did just not need to when I lived in Thailand, paying for sex is fine. The guys I was talking about were in year long relationships with thai women, many of them raising families, I would bet most of them initially came there as sex tourists and realized how much better their life could be and never looked back. Most of them lived nice lives on moderate investments or good pensions, a few of them worked in Thailand, they are really happy men who it seemed…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:16 PM
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I used to live in Thailand for a year, never paid for sex, cry more lol. If a guy is going to be paying anyway may aswell get value for his money, I met tons of such guys, none of them seemed sad, usually they just seemed really happy and wished they made the move earlier, its a different dynamic compared to a golddigger in the west, and dating as a decently attractive euro guy in Thailand is like being on a different planet. Maybe you are just doing female projection?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:39 PM
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Disagree, its more about wealth, the golddiggery nature of the relationship may be a bit more obvious/honest, so if a guy depends on maintaining the fantasy for his own ego he may have an issue. And he needs to be into asian women but who isnt. If I wanted to go all in I would convert to Islam and move to indonesia, but I like it here in the West. Its a perfectly fine and valid reproductive strategy for men in the west who are decently economically succesful to just move to the philipines or som…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:53 PM
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Also most advert driven purchases are done by women so ads are mostly targeted towards women and the programming driving the ads naturally is aswell.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:41 PM
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Irellevant what other guys want or think.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:22 PM
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I dont get why people dont wash their ass after taking a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:30 AM
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Casual sex is nice, most guys rarely if ever experience it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:54 AM
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I was the messed up loser she was cheating with, does that count? I feel okay about it, was a huge confidence boost at a time when I needed it, she was in love with me for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:51 AM
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Fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:23 AM
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It does not matter on OLD when you cannot get a date, it matters alot when actually meeting women irl, Alot of guys cannot even maintain good eye contract with girls and could not flirt so save their life, have never lifted a weight in their life & have less testosterone than the average 70yo man and they think their biggest problem is that they are not 6"+ with a better jawline like wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:35 AM
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My dad is late 70s and still not acting old just walks a bit slower, people think I am 30ish, gf has career on track and own house, she wants a kid I am like ok why not, have more than enough money to pay for asswhiping if needed, big family 2 adult kids, gonna get TRT when I need maybe in a decade, life is good, no one can predict future we live in the present.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:21 AM
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My grandfather died in his own home at 94 without ever needing an adult diaper. Worrying about the future is not very masculine. Also I have money lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:56 AM
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Garden tools big mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:51 AM
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Mid 40s, gf is late 20s, match made in heaven so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:48 AM
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Just take her out for icecream instead of beer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:27 AM
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Was s total gamechanger for me, maybe because I was already pretty good at flirting and at talking to women and it put me over the edge and into "fun time guy" territory. It seems to be the muscles that does the trick, not just being fit, and lower bodyfat does not seem to make much difference as long as I dont get fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:01 PM
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The work is more fun and feels less like work, I realized this many years ago after basically going monk for 6 months and shedding alot of fat and building alot of muscle, it was like I was living on another planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:21 PM
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Personality matters, just not in the way guys are told, being a "good person" does not matter much and can even be detrimental in some cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:11 PM
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The confident guys tend to run thru more relationships and have alot more sex, unless the confidence is a total facade and they are actually unattractive. Plenty of less confident guys(who should be more confident) do end up with girlfriends who sees the potential, sometimes with a girl who is good for them, sometimes with girls who are not, they get "wife goggles" pretty fast when some girl touches their penis in either case. OLD really messes with the system though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:28 AM
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Men start to slowly grow standards when their options increase, this takes years though lol, the initial reaction to increased options tend to less interest in commitment, we realize most women are not really that special long before we start to grow some real standards, atleast thats how it was for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:20 AM
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Attraction is not a choice, being genuine is good, "opening up" is usually not in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:09 AM
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Charisma and being a sexual person and being unapologetic about being a sexual person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:01 AM
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All your nerdy and quirky personality traits are alot more attractive after 6-12 months of solid beginner gains. Trust me on this, I am also a huge nerd and used to think kinda like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:53 AM
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Physical strength and muscularity is the single most consistant attraction trigger, so no there is obviously not a replacement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:50 AM
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There actually are plenty guidelines and "techniques" its not exactly rocket surgery, for most guys the issue is mainly bodylanguage, lack of courage or pedestalizing imo. Or just not being very physically attractive and falling below the threshhold for "chemistry".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:43 AM
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I have seen alot of examples of guys who are not as confident with women as they should be, and alot of guys who are way more confident than they have any right to be lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:37 AM
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Its a tendency of guys with alot of options lacking motivation to enter a monogamous relationship, even if they get with pretty interesting women. And guys with less options not really having an impact on the perception of these things. Also ALOT of girls project and think the kinds of guys she can fuck is the kinds of guy who are realistic relationship options for her, not really realizing that he probably has a couple of other girls in his life that he is fucking and he has another date tomorr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:30 AM
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If you dont see a difference I dont know what to tell you, pretty disrespectful to actual rape victims but whatever. You have a nice day though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 11:17 PM
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Lying to get laid is lame but will never be rape, it would be an unimagineable and in practice unenforcable can of worms, not gonna happind.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 11:09 PM
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Just telling you how it is from a legal sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 11:02 PM
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Rape be deception laws only really applies to stealthing and such and there was some wild case where a lesbian pretended to be a man and was fucking some women with a strapon for months and cases of "unsanctioned" partner swaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 10:18 PM
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It does not really matter though, most guys are not psychos and it works better if you get to a point where you are not really pretending, this does not mean being naive about it though, I can flip the switch and be a cold motherfucker if I want, but its generally not the best strategy and its certainly not with the women I enjoy spending time with, its something I do when I need to. I am not saying guys should go all warm and mushy either, dont eat paint. Edit: I have been doing this shit for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 11:38 AM
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Not really my experience, also some of the hottest women I have been with have no idea how hot they actually are, thats the best kind of hottie, I have zero interest in Instagram models and shit, I dont fuck girls for my ego, I fuck girls because I love to fuck. When people say about game and rp "that only works on a specific type of girl" they are kinda right in this case, and its a type of girl I honestly can't be bothered with anyway. Edit:Guys misunderstand why (non-damaged)girls go for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 11:05 AM
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Better to be charismatic than arrogant. Charisma being strength + presense + warmth, that last part is pretty important, being able to dial it way back when appropriate is also import obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 10:53 AM
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There are nuances to arrogance and the "I am the prize" mindset though, just telling guys to be in the mindset that he should not be concerned about what she thinks of him, he is there figuring out and evaluating what he thinks of her can totally flip things on its head, girls are not used to that, it just works so well for something so simple Just telling guys to be arrogant is kinda bad advice and should definately come with a "dont eat paint" warning.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 10:11 AM
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What is really a need though? Basic shelter, food, water, sleep, physical safety? If we say self-actualization, belonging, esteem etc are needs then sex is definately a need aswell.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 09:00 AM
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Some people need sex but dont need romance or life partners, same thing. Its not normal though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 08:58 AM
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Nonsense, also I am pretty good at reading women, its not a one size fits all but there are alot of near universals. You think I am outright overtly disrespectful and being an asshole? Why would I do that? That would just be bad game, If anything I will underplay my confidence a bit and maybe even seem a little shy, cocky is usually not the way to go and its not really who I am, I am just some nerd who lifts and loves to flirt with women for fun and who sometimes pushes their buttons a bit for h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 12:23 AM
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Imo yes, appearance of physical strength/muscularity is the single biggest predictor of mating success, more important than height, we all know this? Dont underestimate the value of healthy testosteron levels either though, makes it so much easier to talk to people and changes how you behave in many subtle ways you may not even notice yourself. This is why hit the gym will always be good advice. If you dont do this you are playing the game on a much harder difficulty level for sure, its just dum…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 09:01 PM
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Definately, guys need to get off their ass, thats the most important thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 08:49 PM
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The first goal is fun and positive interactions with women, where they are thinking: I like this guy, he is cute and he seems so genuine and fun, I want to know more. Atleast from my perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 08:36 PM
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Totally disagree, you just have to do things a bit differently, the most important things I learned in game was things NOT to do, after that it was fixing my bodylanguage including the eye contact thing, that was a tough one lol, became alot easier after I fixed my testosteron deficiency and got really muscular, eye contact is so fucking hard if you are T deficient. I dont know how shit works if you are the hunchback of notre dame, but for kinda average blokes who are willing to lift weights get…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 08:21 PM
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True, I have not taught either of my sons to respect women specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:23 PM
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Interesting perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:38 PM
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Mostly flings of a month to a year, and my girlfriend who is mid 30s and had been with me for 2.5ish years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:36 PM
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Healthy mindset, and not as uncommon as online discourse can make it seem. Some women in their late 30s have a pretty wild libido though, almost hard for us guys to keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:09 PM
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Kinda same haha, ironically discovering the pickup/seduction community made me like women again, because sexism is fine but misogyny is just bad game, I wonder if they teach guys that today? So much easier to get laid if you like women and like being around them, just dont respect them too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:04 PM
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I used to be super feminist, but that was so long ago it feels like a different life, I just ignore all thats shit now, life is too short to be a slacktivist. The early pickup community changed me in many ways but no one wasted time whining about feminism back then, different times. Feminism is just a shit test bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:51 PM
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True, I was made aware of most of them because of the internet, and was lucky to stumble on one of the early pickup/seduction communities on usenet more than two decades ago when it was just guys helping guys and sharing experiences, today there is just so much garbage to wade through compared to then imo and from what I see most online male spaces today have been taken over by either incls or feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:30 PM
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You are not pretending are you? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 09:13 AM
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Experience is gained alot faster if you have a plan and some basic awareness instead of flopping around blind trying to make sense of everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 08:31 AM
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There are some good books actually, forums are often a trap and a time/energy sink though. Good books: Mark Mansons "models", "The Charisma Myth", "Why Women Have Sex", "Sex at Dawn", "No more Mr. Nice Guy", "Impossible to Ignore", "Book of Pook" etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 08:24 AM
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The internet is where people go for information? I have a handful of books I recommend to guys struggling, not all guys have a friend who can mentor them a bit, I did though, which was very lucky. Just going in blind is like every single guy reinventing the wheel, some young guys are pretty good at figuring stuff out on their own though and its better to not bring in all kinds concious learning, its not things they need to think about if they are already doing okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 08:19 AM
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Argue yes, whats the point? I have had plenty of conversations with my girlfriend about various aspects of intersexual dynamics, its good conversation topics especially over a few bottles of wine, its not me trying to "red pill" her or anything though, its just interesting conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:49 AM
2

Whatever really, if he has a bodycount of 50 but only wants to marry a virgin thats fine, I just dont want to hear him whine over not being able to find a virgin to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:16 PM
1

Thats like twice as good as a regular standard then? Honestly though, its a bit of a luxury standard, if a guy can pull it off then good for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 11:21 AM
2

Its a perfectly valid standard to have, one that I dont really share at this point in my life, the born again virgin thing though? They can gtfo with that nonsense lmao, I would much prefer an honest unrepentant slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 11:12 AM
4

You can kinda transmute it, thats alot easier once you get laid semi-regularly though. I started to be alot more succesful in life in general after I figured that part of my life out. No amount of meditation, focus shifting and transmutation beats just having a healthy sex life without too much effort, its more like a bandaid or a way of getting there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 07:45 AM
1

She is just damn sweet and nice and is always touching me and wanting to cuddle, the sex is also amazing, we also just really have fun doing things together, virtually no negativity, guilt tripping or drama for the two years we have been together, also she wants to have my babies. Also she lost like 30kg after we first hooked up, and says that I was her motivation, thats love.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 07:22 AM
-1

No, I dont think the issue merits such radical change even if it was a realistic option, which its obviously not. I am all for individual freedom and choice, societal incentives and cultural standards are a different discussion though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 06:52 PM
-2

It makes me question whether having women in charge of mate selection, especially with daddy goverment ready to take atleast a partial provider role is not a very bad idea. There are atleast some societal incentive structures and cultural narratives we need to have a good hard look at. I find women complaining about the guys they are fucking and breeding with usually falls a bit flat and is more likely to make me think less of women than of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:52 PM
0

No, they are often bad from a societal standpoint though, not because they are high but because they have not really evolved since caveman times, and various social support systems further aggravates the issue. Attraction is not a choice though, and blaming individual women for being women' is mostly pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:39 PM
2

I like sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:56 PM
2

"Being a slut is easy, being a stud is hard"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:55 PM
3

"Chore Play" is not manly, too much conflict is bad but there is probably a negative correlation with guys going out of their way to be do their share or more of housework and bedroom satisfaction. Pretty sure I read a study on this but it kinda makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:31 AM
12

Duh? Hit the gym bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:24 AM
2

Best we can hope for is to maybe make them less cool and less profitable, there is no going back, maybe push some cultural changes over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:57 AM
1

I am kind of a social democrat but voting rightwing nationalist partly for reasons of intersexual dynamics, less daddy goverment taking provider role, less (mostly male) immigration, less feminist nonsense in institutions etc, just doing my part. I have also become somewhat wealthy and have two sons so that matters. I am pretty happy with my life overall though, I will be fine, I am pretty optimistic, modern dating is not much of a direct personal concern of mine atm, I mostly did kink oriented …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:51 AM
2

6) Learn to enjoy the process
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:37 AM
1

There is no wider solution, there is only adapting and personal solutions for individual men working to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:31 AM
0

It means nothing in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:26 AM
3

I already knew that at 15yo, despite being constantly told that it was not very important to women, I was a pretty perceptive kid and rarely did as I was told lol, that was not what I learned from that forum lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:07 AM
15

Women often give pretty useless advice, most mainstream advice and cultural narratives will also be bad, I dont think this is about women lying though, what they will usually do is describe what is (in their head) their perfect comfortable, safe, Mr. Practical boyfriend that would make them feel good about themselves, but leave out how that fantasy guy looks or how he behaves sexually and physically, They will almost never advise guys about what actually made them fuck some guy they barely knew,…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 11:50 PM
5

At some point most neurotypical guys will figure it out that they were set up for failure by culture essentially, depending on how late that happinds they may be (understandibly) resentful. Its still their responsibility in the sense that no one else cares. I got lucky and stumbled on one of the early seduction communities on usenet, it shattered my world view at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 11:37 PM
1

The two things are entirely separate for me. Some women I admire I want to fuck, others not. Some women I dont really respect much I want to fuck, others not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 08:24 PM
2

Are you okay? Do you have brain Damage?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:48 PM
3

You get what you give.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:44 PM
2

Almost certainly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:42 PM
4

No need.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:39 PM
10

True, if enough men have no personal investment in the future of society then a society burns, we have porn and videogames now so thats a buffer up to a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:36 PM
2

True, "the women" and especially "the men" comments should usually just be ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:29 PM
5

I vote rightwing because I am a somewhat wealthy man with two sons, I voted for social democrats most of my life though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:22 PM
9

Nah, dont really care, not my problem or responsibility. I care about women I know and like and I am only responsible for my own behavior. I care a little about people in general because I am not a psychopath, but I only really have so many fucks to give and none of them are reserved specifically for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:17 PM
7

Nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:09 PM
2

True, after I became pretty good with women alot of my attitudes changed, mostly towards other men who were succesful with women though, I always liked women I just started to have less respect for them initially, but then later I started to realize we are all just fucking apes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:07 PM
2

Alot of that is familiar, I snapped out of it pretty early though, like in my late teens, how are you doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:54 AM
2

Nah just fun sometimes, seen some pretty good guy advice in the sub, but its usually basic old school rp stuff that I dont really need because I figured most of that shit out 2 decades ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:16 PM
4

I have known enough women to realize that plenty of women are absolute pigs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:09 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:42 PM
3

Nah, they just hate cocky ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:34 PM
1

True. The hard part is getting us to stick around by making us want to continually get under those panties and enjoy the time in between the under panties getting, that last part is something women really struggle with because they are often not that interesting or pleasant as people atleast initially but guys who have a hard time with getting under panties generally will stick around and try to find things to like and often they actually will and if she likes him she will help him find those th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:26 PM
2

I used to hate that, I found a good middle ground though, but when I started acting like more of a dbag as an experiment and suddenly got success with the girls I liked that really stung, but I liked sex so...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:18 PM
5

That struck a nerve, I would have had a better time early on if I had not tried so hard to NOT be like my dad lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:13 PM
1

"take up space" and maintain eye contact is good advice, so is "dont worry about what she thinks of you, focus on deciding what you think of her". I dont know about the backing away slowly part lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:10 PM
3

Not bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:04 PM
16

If a women constantly nitpicks she is not feeling attraction for you, or she has some kind of issue thats not your problem, work on attraction, dont take her too serious, dread her a bit.. or just move in with your life, dont try to fix women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:55 PM
7

Usually because they were lied to and set up for failure and are not willing to just stop giving a fuck and change themselves, I kinda got lucky and got the "stop being a nice guy" talk pretty early from a bro, but it went against everything I had been taught about how to treat women growing up surrounded by feminists and bombarded by western media and trying to be the opposite of my womanizing asshole dad, Imagine guys who discover much later in life, I can see how that could make guys bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:50 PM
2

Could be bodylanguage issue aswell, very likely given your background.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:33 PM
1

Its not bad advice, I am with my girlfriend because she is fun and attractive and makes me feel good when I am with her, I generally try to do the same for her, if we dont make each other feel good then whats the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:31 PM
10

Thats basically the standard cultural programming guys have to break out of before they get jaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:26 PM
1

I learned "it" in my early 20s from books and forums and alot of trial and error lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:20 PM
1

Its an important skillset, feels alot less important after I got that part of my life squared away, eventually I even got some standards and shit, which I did not have when I relied on "getting lucky" and had no idea wtf I was doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:15 PM
1

Really depends on who you are and the situation, its almost always better to be a bit of a rogue than a gentleman imo, probably best to mix it up for some contrast, shamelessness is probably the one thing that got me laid most as a young guy, discretion being a close runner up especially as I got a bit older.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:07 PM
3

Best advice I ever got was "stop being so nice and stop being serious, just goof around with girls and have fun" This changed everything even though I had no idea why at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:02 PM
9

The asshole gets laid because he is not kissing her ass and because he has confidence and is shameless which shows courage, women find that attractive, its not that complicated, it is counterintuitive to men with the prevalent cultural programming though, guys are way too afraid to make women uncomfortable and try too hard to be liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 03:57 PM
1

Low testosteron screws guys, sometimes this can be fixed with lifestyle changes, alot of guys are getting ssri's when they should be getting TRT imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 11:21 AM
3

Most women never approach, they more like put themselves in a situation for something to happind and maybe throw some hints, and becomes sad if the guy does not make it happind, sometimes they do it subconciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:24 PM
3

"The women" aint gonna do shit, its all up to you bro. Just ignore the whiny cat ladies and all the cultural shit tests and focus on getting what you want out of life, dont try to save the world, save yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:15 PM
2

6-12 months of serious beginner gains will be gamechanging for the average skinny/fat guy, its the appearance of physical strength that is a massive attraction trigger though, sixpack is a niche product. Another common benefit will often be healthy hormone levels which does wonders for confidence and bodylanguage and is a major factor in why "hit the gym bro" will never not be good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 09:54 PM
1

Stop whining and hit the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:35 PM
0

Sure Becky, there is a reason "dont listen to what women say, watch what women do" is the original red pill since more than 2 decades ago lol. Also its not either/or obviously, my conversational skills and empathy seemed to massively improve when I put on some serious muscle mass, funny how that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:06 AM
2

Maybe not for you robots, but us humans are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:57 AM
1

Its easier to get a relationship than to get casual sex somewhat consistantly, alot easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:54 AM
1

I was objectively low value in comparison, I was a total loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:50 AM
2

No idea if it was explicitly stated maybe not because they were not having sex, but thats pretty irellevant to the point that she was dating him because she was serious about him and wanted to have a future with him, but making him wait because dumb games women play, and then banging me because hey girl still horny and gotta get her rocks off. If I had to speculate with what I remember was my impression I would be 99% he assumed she was not banging other guys while dating him for months but not …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:39 AM
1

This is almost on the level of being a cliche? She probably read in some magazine that she was supposed to make a guy wait if she was serious about it or something lol, to be fair she was very young.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:22 AM
5

Its specifically to banter with women that makes you good at flirting, you can essentially practice flirting by doing this. Just talking to women is fine and a guy should be comfortable with this obviously, but its doing banter that improves flirting skill, not just more normal conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 01:06 AM
1

Banter and flirting is closely related.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:57 AM
1

Untrue, I lowkey flirt with all women if I am in a good mood, its how I got good at it. Its very close to normal banter, if you are good at banter then you can transfer that skill to flirting pretty easily. Also being socially comfortable matters, this comes with experience and is somewhat perishable, need to maintain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:48 AM
1

Good luck with your revolution lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:25 AM
55

Yeah I realized that shit means nothing lol, women will put themselves in situations where oops it just happined, and then rationalize it afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:47 PM
112

Definately, one of my red pill moments was banging a girl who was seriously dating some guy she "really liked" for months without sleeping with him and realizing she saw no problem/contradiction with it because "it was different" and she was just having sex with me for fun and it was not serious. Amazing mental gymnastics, blew my mind, needless to say I decided I would never be that guy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:42 PM
4

I think you are projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:27 PM
1

High social status woman does not translate to high quality woman at all, highly educated women are kind of a niche product but its mostly kind of neutral, its fine and all but it does not really make women significantly more attractive in itself. A woman getting her masters is much less impactful on her attractiveness than a guy hitting the gym hard for 6 months is on his, and also much less impactful than a guy getting his masters obviously. I agree with colleges being potentially valuable smp…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:49 PM
2

They actually do though, attraction is not a choice. Your definition is not bad but thinking such women are less attracted to superficial traits is romantic fantasy. Subconcious attraction influences concious perception in a major way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:25 PM
3

I am not. And guys who still think they can change the world are blue pilled AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:59 AM
5

RP is not about society, its about the individual man and his personal success. A fundamental of TRP is that you cannot change the world, you can adapt and become succesful in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:12 AM
6

Obviously not, its learned behavior, sometimes learned early and subconciously but still learned, naturally high testosteron level helps alot though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:22 AM
2

True lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:12 AM
1

Weird Fantasy Shit, like some what if alternative reality stuff, sounds like was written by someone who thinks men have sex based in-group preference like women do. Here is my counter: if "the women" decided tomorrow that they would only fuck short guys who could do handstands then I could walk out of the door tomorrow and see half of guys walking around on their hands and the other half trying, most of them would have removed their soles from their shoes to appear shorter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:54 AM
2

You write like a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:46 AM
4

Doing one moderate cycle is not bad, if you can get a hold of some hcg you can avoid ball shrinkage, pharma grade T is so cheap now because of the trans fad but hcg can be hard to source. I would not do steroids until I had most my beginner gains atleast, but you asked for shortcut, it will also likely make you super confident btw lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:36 AM
1

Does not really work well imo, and keeping a girl around for awhile is efficient, lying to get a ons is not, you will also pollute your pond, maybe if you travel alot and are a bit of a psycho.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:27 AM
2

Not a shortcut, lying is hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:22 AM
13

Stop doing the culturally encouraged nice guy nonsense of becoming her friend first so you dont make her uncomfortable, its middle school shit, if you are romantically interested show that from the beginning and never feel you need to apologize for your desires. Obviously you treat a friend differently than a romantic interest, that does not mean she cannot be a friend.. if she treats you like a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:08 AM
3

You can have that when you go to Phuket to train muay thai for a month every year, which you can do because you are moderately wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:54 AM
6

Guys hold themselves poorly, slouch, dont take up enough space, are bad at relaxed eye contact etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:48 AM
2

Appearance of physical strength is an actual "shortcut", and the increased testosteron levels some guys get from lifting aswell, can have a big impact on mindset and bodylanguage. If you are looking for something that you can do today that is almost guaranteed to have a real impact then do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:40 AM
2

Yes definately, what do you really want though? A few girls in your life that you are intimate with and to be able to meet and seduce women and have fwb type relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:29 AM
0

I assume you are already decently muscular with like 6 months of good beginner gains, and not fat? If not make that a priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:13 AM
1

You can get pretty far with a moderate amount of wealth, a good physique, some charm and a little bit of shamelessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:08 AM
3

For alot of guys: fix bodylanguage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:01 AM
3

I think poly is very much a niche thing and always will be, and I would bet money that most couples inspired to try it will end up no longer being in a relationship, I am not a jealous guy but I just dont see why I would be poly, it makes no sense to me, atm me and gf are trying to get pregnant which obviously makes monogamy a must. I have done swinging in the past and could see that in the future, swinging makes sense and is very exciting. I think many swingers could be poly if they wanted, Its…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 10:28 PM
5

Yeah ghosting is dumb, fact is that guys with limited options also have rather low standard for what they put up with from a girl, they may even get "wife goggles" and convince themselves she is great, guys with decent sexual options and alot of experience rarely end up in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:40 PM
3

When a guy has alot of options very few women seem that special, because they are usually not. When a guy gets lucky and meets such a girl who would probably want her to himself, if not then why not just stay single instead of having to deal with relationship shit. Poly seems silly to most guys I think, unless they are a part of a large social group of poly people or something, that could probably be great. I love poly girls and there are alot of them on apps, I dont see why I would be the relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:25 PM
1

No, attractive women are a dime a dozen, she would have to be a really amazing and fascinating person, that make me feel really good in her company for me to care, most women are kinda basic or outright annoying, some are great and I want to keep them in my life if possible but thats not 1 in 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:14 PM
1

You are not making any sense, you rarely are imo, which is why I often just ignore and dont respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:02 PM
1

I dont like dumb games, which this looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:01 PM
1

Most relevant comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:40 AM
0

Obviously not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:37 AM
6

Nothing worse than a "born again virgin", I would take an honest slut over that any day of the week and twice on fridays.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:36 AM
1

Child support here is a fixed amount, never had a problem paying it, never getting married though because I am not an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 07:58 AM
5

People can have whatever standards they want, alot of women seem to think that the kind of guys they can realistically get into relationship with is the same as the guys they can have sex with, which is whatever except we are constantly exposed to their whining about guys just using them for sex and not wanting commitment when its totally obvious what is happening. Also in my experience whatever women have decided is their standard/preference rarely actually matters much, its like a teenage guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:04 PM
1

Negative attitude is bad game though, and negativity is contagious, shortcut to game is to really love women and love interacting with women, but dont respect them too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:57 PM
2

Its men who take care of themselves and have done something with their life, you dont have to be famous or rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:19 PM
1

Plenty of older women who are a great time for us guys who already had kids, just dont compromise on the framing. Obviously for purely sexual relationship a healthy man would usually prefer younger no matter his own age but realistic options are also a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:51 PM
14

If the wrong woman in a social group wants to fuck up your life then you are probably screwed. I dont think the risk for the average guy that great but if it happinds there is not much you can do about it. Best defence is being respected and liked or desired by other girls in the group, very hard to fight back once it happinds, but if the other girls decide they like you significantly more than her then she is the one with a problem, also if the guy they all like takes your side. Often a guy wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:20 PM
6

Yes, you have to be willing to risk making women uncomfortable, else you end up doing the nice guy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:50 PM
1

I think I come off more like jolly and lighthearted than arrogant, but in my mental frame its always her trying to win me over, started as a bit of a mental trick but its like second nature now. It just works so damn well for something so simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:29 PM
2

Plenty of those yes, and they are shooting themselves in the foot by not just embracing what they really are, thats probably how they ended up that way in the first place, by not being true to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:25 PM
1

Yes pretending to not be douchey is not a good strategy, pretending to be douchey kinda works though lol, which was my main point. Fun to look back at that now, I had a drink thrown in my face the first night, was hilarious, took me a few months to start to be able to somewhat dial in the best level of doucheyness and I definately went overboard quite a few times.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:15 PM
1

So basically you are kinda doing what I am doing but as a pessimist. I get how that could work just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:08 PM
1

Irrational confidence and a healthy sense of entitlement has served me well in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:47 PM
1

Depending on their mood most guys have a preference for low effort/high success rate. Guys have broad and adaptive preference, standards are a consequence of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:37 PM
1

I dont need excuses, me getting what I want is objectively good, the rules are fine when you know them, I dont have to be making the rules to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:23 PM
1

Whatever works for you bruh. (Does it work though? You getting what you want in life?)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:14 PM
3

Women kinda make the rules though, when I started just fucking around with girls and being much less respectful I initially felt kinda bad about it, it ran contrary to my upbringing for sure, I did it because it worked, especially after I started to have fun doing it. I was pretty resistent to the idea at first when a buddy told me to try it but the results were undeniable, Kinda shattered my world view at the time ngl, this was more than two decades ago in my late teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:05 PM
2

Because no ones confidence lines up with reality, people usually have less confidence than they should have or more than they have any right to have. There is not utility in feeling like a piece of shit but quite alot of utility in confidence. And being happy is better than being unhappy, there is not much utility in self-hate unless you actually use it for motivation, Better to be a happy idiot than a depressed genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:48 PM
2

I dated for fun and sex until I got with my girlfriend, why? Because I could and I wanted to, its not complicated, met alot of amazing women in those years, but no real incentive to go exclusive. Back when I had less options and was no good at flirting I was always dating to find a girlfriend which I eventually did despite having a hard time and not that many options.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:13 AM
5

If she was not enjoying the sex she would not want more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:17 AM
1

Polite guys finish last, we dont make the rules we just play the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:13 AM
3

Yeah that just means no chemistry to me, I may be open to relationship but I am not someones Mr. Practical, desire first and take it from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:09 AM
2

Nah its just what fwb used to mean. First time I hear "situationship", sounds more like something else, like "when I did hard time I had a kind of situationship with my cell mate but I am not gay"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:53 AM
3

They say that but almost always want more if they are fucking you in my experience, they may not push it to avoid ruining what they have though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:36 AM
5

For me an fwb was always someone I also liked spending time with, not just straight booty call. The struggle was not suddenly finding myself in a relationship with exclusivity expectations again though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:33 AM
4

I got a few pointers early and got a bit lucky, but only really learned in my early 20s. The only real difference is how much it messed life up learning late, for me not much, for some guys alot, aside from that women cannot tell the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:24 AM
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They did something, had success with it and then kept doing it, over time they refined it a bit, they may not think about it much or be able to explain it to others well, maybe their older brother told them about some things early that helped them out. They are still not just being themselves, they are being themselves trying to fuck this chick or whatever and are usually aware of this, where alot of clueless guys today are afraid of even having that mindset because of their cultural programming…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:03 AM
3

Its about the same imo. If you think its much better you dont understand women, if women think its worse they dont understand men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:07 AM
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Women will describe the guy who is their perfect boyfriend that would make them feel good about themselves, in their imagination where he is super hot but wants only her. They will never enlighten a guy about what made them fuck some guy they met at a party that she still thinks about when masturbating, what made them keep banging that commitmentphobe guy for two years while complaining about him on reddit, what made magic happind that special summer night where she accidentally did something sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 11:39 PM
6

Most of the guys who "just get it" know exactly what they are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 11:29 PM
2

Making women and sex the focus in life for awhile is fine, its making one woman the entire focus that screws guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 11:23 PM
3

A specific woman should never be the goal. Its also more about guys getting the women/sex part of their life figured out, thats a super valuable goal to reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 11:21 PM
-1

Mostly true, still gotta learn to love yourself though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 11:16 PM
1

No not really but kinda and the correlation is obviously significant, guys with options are attractive to women for alot of reasons but mainly confidence and non-needyness and obviously "passive dread" in relationship. The male equivalent of slut really is like creepy virgin or simp etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 04:22 PM
5

Personality is super important though, why attempt to group that with things that dont matter like career?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 04:07 PM
1

Women often have no idea what they want until they feel it, but they usually have alot of ideas ABOUT what they want, like some list of requirements that matters little irl but is suddenly everything on some app. I have experienced women going from basically uninterested to madly in love and sexually obsessed enough times that some list of requirements from women just makes me chuckle, gotta suck for guys who are mostly reliant on online dating though, unless they happined to fit whatever is the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:18 PM
1

Many times, standards improved along with options though. Only once where I was actually unable to enjoy the experience though, but that was more because of her behavior/personality, some girls can be a pretty good time despite not being that visually stimulating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 02:43 PM
2

You can definately do things in social groups but its a very different game. A good social group can be a goldmine but the rules are different. Having a reputation for being discreet is one of the best things a man can have in a social group.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:50 PM
3

The main benefit is that its easier, alot easier if you are a somewhat established guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 02:03 PM
1

No guarantee, especially not when a guy gets the social reputation for being the guy all the girls reject. Some guys are whining but not actually taking action though, guys who could actually work towards success faster than they imagine. It is a numbers game but there really is a threshhold for any reasonable success rate that is not just some crazy theoretical and there are actually limitations on the numbers of women that any guy can realistically meet in situations where anything is going to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 12:13 PM
3

If I held such views why would I ever talk to a woman I was romantically interested in about these things? Thats just bad game. Maybe they lack other interesting or fun things to talk about? Some guys really need to touch some grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 04:37 PM
2

Nonsense. Also its not about the world or society, its about a mans individual success.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 04:02 PM
1

You dont need 10% bf, romantically whats most useful is the appearance of physical strength and physical confidence not being shredded. "Hit the gym" will never not be good advice, so yes its like "take a shower" I guess, because not doing so is basically self sabotage, guys who are not actually doing it need to stop whining. Its also essential for maintaining physical and mental health today especially for guys who are NOT doing physical work, much less important for a construction worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 04:01 PM
1

I buy old houses and fix them up and rent them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 03:52 PM
1

Night game is good and very different, I very much enjoy doing what you are doing aswell, in a party settings its great. Thats just partying and having fun though, I almost dont concider it cold approach. I was a part of the early pickup community before that stupid "The Game" book came out, we did something we called caveman game for awhile, which included being sober and acting kinda drunk, lead to some fun experiences lol, probably too risky today though, and being somewhat physically imposin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 03:19 PM
1

Did you enjoy it? I did not so maybe thats the problem, I will approach in the right situation though, and I am good at spotting ioi's, I just dont approach spam because its lame and I dont enjoy it, I love interacting with women though. When I am single the goal is just having 2+ cute girls in my life that I am fucking and sometimes meeting someone new and exciting, I stopped caring about numbers after living in Thailand for 6 months more than a decade ago lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:54 PM
9

A little red pill works on even the best women, as long as its fully internalized and not a facade. Full on dark triad men and cocky assholes with nothing beneath are a niche product, dont overdose on red pills or you could end up worse off in the long run. Everything in moderation guys, dont forget to be yourself after you made the needed changes, and remember to lift those heavy weights, rp does not work well if you are a scrawny guy who can be intimidated by other men, most of you need that p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:27 PM
1

Guys take what they can get, some genuinely dont care much, at this point in life I dont care much about a girls numbers myself, but I already did the whole house and kids thing with a girl who was a virgin when we met, and my kids are almost adult now, perspectives change and I am not marrying anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:41 PM
4

Cold approach is very inefficient, it only really works sometimes in a party settings and on the beach in the summer and such, the street cold approach spam that some pua types want guys to do is just dumb even as an exercise, its soul crushing for the guy and annoying for the women. social network game is easy mode if gender ratio is healthy but comes with social risk and you cannot rely on numbers, but if you already have preselection and a good reputation you are golden, be the discreet guy w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:20 PM
4

I have lived in places with less social safety nets and somewhat more traditional attitudes and high marriage rates as a result, the moderately succesful men seemed pretty happy. You hold on to your luxury beliefs though lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:53 PM
1

A man in your group is not going to tell you that he cares, especially not in a progressive environment lol, he is going to give you the politically correct answer because he is horny but not stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:44 PM
6

Kinda shattered my worldview for awhile ngl.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:31 PM
1

There are a many good books on the subject or related. "Models" by Mark Manson is pretty good imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:28 PM
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It actually makes perfect sense, and if a man feels a more consevative or libertarian world would be better for him and increase his procreation odds he should vote accordingly. I dont think most men really think of politics that way though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:44 PM
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I think its more pragmatism than retaliation, intersexual dynamics plays a role in why I no longer vote leftwing, my economic situation also plays a role, I am not really ideologically rightwing though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:22 PM
0

They are often as bad as the worst feminists imo. Without the institutional power though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:08 PM
2

Most male online spaces these days are ruined/subverted by either feminists or incels, there may have been healthy mgtow content and community back in 2015 but today it seems toxic. As for individual men chosing that lifestyle I understand and respect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:54 PM
2

I think we have differences in general world view and probably some selection bias going on, that kinda thing is great over a platter of sushi and some beer but not via text on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 01:45 AM
1

To be fair there are plenty of scumbag guys out there, but people seem to be under the mistanken impression that the amount of scumbag women is less, the reality is that people are complicated, there is a reason I loved my ex for more than a decade, I am also glad I did not give her the power to destroy me though . Marriage is an outdated institution especially from a male perspective imo, atleast in the west. I focus on advice for guys because male/female interests do conflict sometimes and mod…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 01:21 AM
2

My ex is better off today because she is the mother of my children than she would have been if she had taken half my shit 15 years ago before the 2008 bubble, our oldest is living 150m from me now and she knows its what is best for him. She made a good deal and I would have been a moron if I had compromised on my no marriage stance. She even learned to get along with my girlfriend lol, best decision for our kids aswel, not sure we would have a good relationship if I had married, was always hones…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 01:02 AM
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If a wealthy man gets married he is usually a fool, poor guys may have to get married to have kids, rich guys do not. Plenty of women who have way better genes than the ones pushing you for marriage, you probably dont even have to look outside your own culture but you could. Stop caring about what other people think and what culture tries to incentivize, that nonsense is for the poors. Make a contract, pay child support gladly if you have to, but dont get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 12:28 AM
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I kinda do that stuff jokingly when flirting, I used to tell girls that she was like a bratty little sister and that I was way too old for her anyway and shit like that because it was funny to me and because it worked, flirting is just flirting though. Actually lying while pretending to be serious seems like not fun imo, I doubt guys who are succesful with women do that unless they have some kind of deception fetish. Edit: or maybe its what works for them? Seems wierd to me, the vast majority of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:50 PM
2

Good luck man, remember to get enough saturated fat in diet even when losing weight, you need them, cut carbs and seed oil to reduce calories, olive and avocado is good though, oats good, wheat bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:53 PM
1

"owes" a man sex and yet 90% of the posts on this sub are about men who seem to believe otherwise. I dont see this much, I see guys have expectations, sometimes even unrealistic ones but thats different. Women are more choosy for evolved biological reasons guys cannot change that, we can learn how sexual attraction works and to some degree "Hack" the system but how thats learned is mostly by observing women and the men who are succesful, figuring out why and then changing our behavior and way of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:32 PM
2

Yes, initial muscle growth is always relatively fast. Intial hormone benefit can be huge aswell, I almost doubled my testosteron levels when I started working out again in my mid 30s, but I was pretty low and I was fat which hurts T production alot and did some other lifestyle changes aswell. The mental benefits can be quite substantial, significant mindset change and I was horny all the time again which was great, most anxiety gone, general desire to do stuff massively improved, I did have a ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:01 PM
2

People are not always honest, big suprise. I have been decieved into sex myself, it happinds. I personally never lie, but I dont always offer up a bunch of preemptive honesty either because thats wierd and boring, her covert contract is not my responsibility, I dont act different in the moment depending om whether I want a relationship or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:36 PM
4

Whatever makes you feel Better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:21 PM
4

because he will simply date and sleep with someone else - he has options! If he really likes her he may even keep dating her, he will still sleep with other women atleast until he is sleeping with her, which just makes him non-needy and more attractive, he is not in a rush.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:17 PM
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Its not his job to make that clear, he may not even know yet at that point, all a guy needs to do is not lie, he does not have to be an open book. Guys do not owe you a relationship in exchange for sex wtf Edit: I swear girls are just as bad with the covert contract thing as men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:04 PM
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What do you mean pretend? Like being charming, making her feel good and then having sex with her? I think alot of times projection is the issue here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:56 PM
2

True, guys in male spaces tend to be pretty good in general, but there are not many male spaces anymore and many guys rarely experience them. Need to bring back male spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:35 PM
2

We could be alot better at it imo, and it only works with buddies because men have No in-group preference for other men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:24 PM
2

I am in the opposite position, I can build significant muscle fast but get fat very quickly if I stop working out, many people underestimate how much they need to eat when building muscle though, 3k calories is nothing if you are active, I get very hungry when active but some really have to force themselves to eat, my strongman friend loves the lifting but hates the eating. Anyway you are an outlier and not the average guy if your metabolism is that fast. I do around 3500 calories a day atm, 40/…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:12 PM
9

A guy can get away with being a bit overweight of he is physically strong, euro fat not america fat though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:49 PM
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Better than fat, but its just such a good investment for guys to build muscle, 6 months of beginner gains can be totally gamechanging.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:43 PM
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If guys are not hitting the gym I dont care about their complaints about lack of romantic success. Just like I dont care about women complaining about being used for sex when they are shopping way above their relationship price range.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:36 PM
1

Individual variance is huge but there are significant universals and its those that are interesting to me as a man, because its valuable knowledge that improves my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 02:03 PM
1

"sisterhood guarding" is definately a thing, I am sure there is some other word for it besides that and a more specific besides female in-group preference, a woman will just say what the qualities of a good boyfriend that makes her feel good about herself as dating advice, never why she thinks about a guy when masturbating or what made her have a ons. There are many good books on the subject though, its not like its actually a secret for guys who want to know? And there is really no difference b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 01:53 PM
0

Nonsense, you actually need to turn it down a notch when dealing with insecure women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 01:27 PM
1

Even very self aware women tend to default to guarding the sisterhood on some issues, it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:06 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 12:12 AM
2

Same, I was banging this poly girl alot and the thought of her going home to her boyfriend afterwards did not exactly make it less hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:23 PM
1

The solution is make money and stay fit, go to Thailand to train muay thai or whatever. And dont get married and stop simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:01 PM
2

The most common "too high standards" related complaints I hear is from people complaining they are being used for sex when its obvious they are shopping way outside their price range for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 10:56 PM
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Its up there with "hit the gym" as actually useful advice lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 10:30 PM
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I dont understand why you would think that would be sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 10:14 PM
4

The only guy who ever let me fuck his wife could kill me with one arm tied behind his back, most confident and masculine guy I know, he just thinks its hot/fun. Edit: Dick size similar to mine, bit above average, so not about that. Edit: I think cuck is something different though and implies the man being the submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 10:00 PM
9

Maybe xhamster has the best cuck porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:57 PM
1

Three kinds of men watch such porn, those whose fantasy is to be the cuck, those whose fantasy is being the bull and those who see themselves more like a stag. I will never understand the first but the other two I get.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:55 PM
7

Niche product. Edit: much in the same way as large bodybuilders are a niche product, though there are probably not kpop stars who would become less attractive by beginner gains lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:43 PM
17

Guys: if you want to be successful with women become the guy who flirts for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:42 PM
7

In my experience contrast triggers attraction, no idea if its related to how push/pull in flirting works or its just because its interesting or whatever but it seems to be the case. Edit: hit the gym nerds, its worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:40 PM
0

Cute is not sexless, I would recommend any guy lift because of cost/benefit ratio but its perfectly possible to be very masculine while being cute, probably not while also being entirely wholesome though ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:32 PM
2

I sensed that particular stench, felt like FDS was more like a self hating political lesbian vent/troll sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:31 PM
5

Its a part of cultural narrative enforcement, to promote certain cultural/ideological views by trying to make it look like everyone already agrees, its a bit Orwellian with a smidge of Baudrillards hyperreality and "The emperors new clothes" like social control mechanics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:56 PM
5

There is kind of a feminist civil war going on atm.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:07 PM
1

Its probably a hormone deficiency though, or maybe in some cases a trauma response. Putting it under the umbrella of sexual orientation is likely a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:04 PM
0

Thats not an intimate/romantic relationship then, thats a friendship maybe, bodily autonomy includes leaving a sexless or otherwise unsatisfactory relationship, whether that feels like pressure or not is fundamentally irellevant to the situation. The only situation I could think of that could make such an arrangement acceptable to me personally would be a one way open relationship since they did not want sex anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 04:57 PM
8

Worse than anything I have been shown from the TRP sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 04:40 PM
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It was probably the trans thing that actually got them shut down tho, which I think is usually just an extension of hate against men but less culturally acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 04:36 PM
2

Concidered what reddit actually is and not what I would want it to be I think its good, alot of bad "standards" could not exist if there was not selective enforcement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 04:34 PM
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Men have virtually no in-group preference, we dont care about "the men" just ourselves, our offspring, the people close to us and maybe society.. also just having biological offspring gives some investment in the future of society whether you are personally involved with raising the kid or not, certainly changed my perspective when I realized I had a kid. Deadbeat dads with 5 baby mamma's in western society are not mens fault, they are a result of individual womens poor choices, men generally do…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 04:24 PM
1

No and no. If enough men no longer have a personal investment in the future of society then society/culture is done.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 04:11 PM
2

30 is pretty young, too early to worry, but you have to evolve and put in the work, god helps those who help themselves, dating at 40+ is a whole different ballgame if you are a somewhat stable, healthy guy who is economically secure and own your own house. My backup plan would be spending atleast 3 months of every year in Thailand, but I am not single atm. My advice would be: stay healthy and focus on making $, try to live an interesting life, also hit the gym no excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:01 PM
2

There is no "The Patriarchy", just like "The male gaze" its a provocative political weapon, not something that is actually real, which would be fine if it was just used to start a discussion in an academic setting and was not one of the main tenants of a very popular religion with massive institutional power. Its impossible to have a real productive discussion about oppression when its forced in such an absurd and imaginary frame. So yes in some sense "The Patriarchy" does harm everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:51 PM
0

I dont exactly disagree, but its about alot more than apperance and her niches, the most underrated factor in attraction is bodylanguage, attraction does not happind in the concious mind, it does massively affect how the concious percieves and makes decisions though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:04 PM
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They cannot, it is the "mythos"/narrative though. The worst I have been shown from TRP I would class as a bit irresponsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 01:37 PM
1

Makes sense, it was a hate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 01:35 PM
2

One thing I have learned is that attraction is not really a choice, seeking out a particular mate for a relationship may be but perception of someones qualities is very much coloured by attraction or lack there of.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 01:32 PM
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I really don’t think that women are really “testing” guys all that much when they guys tell them what they are into. I was not talking about women only, more people in general. The "shit testing" that women will do is something completely different imo, women will not really do it unless they have some interest in a guy, and its usually not even concious I think, its a funny phenomenon, its not a negative thing. Men who have no real interests, or who have interests that don’t interest that given…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 09:14 PM
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Initially its really more about if he believes it himself or if he is faking it, more so than if he has any "right" to be as confident as he is or not. There is a chance that overconfidence can end with you getting taken down a peg or two, mostly if you are covering for some insecurity and get called on that, but people will always try to test you and maybe take you down a peg no matter if your confidence is "real" or not. Most people are either more or less confident than they should be, many t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 05:50 PM
2

I dont think this is about women lying, what they will usually do is describe what is (in their head) their perfect comfortable, safe, Mr. Practical boyfriend that would make them feel good about themselves. They will almost never advise guys about what actually made them fuck some guy they barely knew, what makes them wet, what triggers sexual attraction in them, what made them think of a guy when masturbating. ​ Work on yourself - hobbies, fitness, make yourself interesting, decide on your lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 05:06 PM
1

It depends of what kind of "PUA type" we are talking about, we were making fun of the "dancing monkeys" and their silly routines two decades ago, mostly because they were not actually very succesful at getting ONS. As a general rule: if you can get a girl to repeatedly sleep with you then you can probably make her your girlfriend, will it always work out? Maybe not but thats just the nature of relationships, and atleast you got to have alot of sex. If you cannot get her to sleep with you then yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 02:25 PM
1

This is not true, there are behaviors and habits that are pretty much universally attractive/unattractive, and the average guy has no clue what is actually happening. Charisma is pretty much a skillset, some guys just learn it subconciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 02:11 PM
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Alot of guys self-sabotage and dont even know why, you can definately learn to not do that, many guys also have unattractive bodylanguage, this can be fixed, guys cluelessly miss ioi when they actually get them, awareness can be built. I agree that “Just be yourself” and “Just be confident” is not really helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 02:08 PM
1

Obviously true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 01:55 PM
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Alot of the good advice for guys is counterintuitive AF for guys with the prevalent social programming.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 01:30 PM
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I would say about the same level of bad. If you want good advice the best person to ask is a guy who is very succesful with women but who was not always, a guy who made a concious effort and know what he did and what worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 01:29 PM
1

I would not say never, I got some pretty good advice from a a butch lesbian once. "Dont listen to what women say, watch what women do" is still a good principle, also watch the guys who the women go home with, you can learn alot from doing that. Or you could just read a book instead of trying to reinvent the wheel.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 01:22 PM
1

I agree, I do hear similar complaints from women in regards to being used for sex, its blindingly obvious to me what is happening(they are sharing) but I am not going to tell them because I want to keep them as friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 08:04 PM
1

Concidering the gender ratio I would say the average active female Tinder user is probably sharing. The average male Tinder user gets basically no action, its like a guy buying a lottery ticket every week for years even tho deep down he knows he will never win.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 07:57 PM
1

I said: "guy who is succesful on Tinder" not the average male Tinder user. I know a couple of those guys and most of the time they will be "occupying" the romantic attention and "hopes and dreams" of a handful of girls at any given time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 07:45 PM
1

Its super common, usually the women dont know they are sharing tho. Its pretty much the norm on hookup apps like Tinder, I dont know any guy who is succesful on Tinder who is dating just one girl at a time, always multible hooks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 07:36 PM
1

Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:05 PM
2

What is CC?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:45 PM
6

Maidenless take.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 02:55 PM
1

Salf-sabotage is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 04:45 PM
4

So True! Mens attraction is adaptive, and its not just conciously lowering standards, we literally start to be attracted to different things, this is responsible for alot of the porn categories on porn sites lol. They can change again over time in the opposite direction if options improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 04:05 AM
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I am always discreet, I got laid so much because of my reputation for being discreet, girls are allowed to kiss and tell, guys are not.. and girls talk. edit: dont you know the rules?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:46 AM
2

Some of the best sex I ever had was with uglies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:55 AM
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I dont think there was a literal decree from the goverment that said that guys must use OLD to meet girls instead of going out to parties, bars or clubs or other gatherings to meet girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:53 AM
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For most of the last two years the goverment, and lets not pretend OLD does not also massively impact how many girls go out to meet guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:03 PM
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I dont think its because of stupidity, I think its more about self-image.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 10:33 PM
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They know they do not want to be a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 10:27 PM
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Most unattractive men can probably not get "uglies" if they rely on online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 10:14 PM
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80%(ish) of men are incapable of getting into any kind of fwb type relationships or have casual sex except maybe rarely and inconsistantly like in "that one time they got lucky", pretty much no matter how much effort they put into meeting women. That is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:48 PM
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Its a pretty broad "spectrum" with career pro's having it as a side business on one end and girl meeting guy offering a good time, gifts and lifestyle perks without ever making her feel like a pro on the other end, I have some experience with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:17 PM
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The best sugar babies are those who had not really planned on it before presented with the opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:30 PM
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Paternal investment in the future of society is essential, without this society would not function, people who think they can "awareness raise" us beyond that are nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:57 PM
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The first step towards this would be making paternity tests mandatory or at the very least the norm to the point where it would seem wierd if a guy opted out of one. I am pretty chill in regards to non-monogamy personally, but I am not getting married and I cannot see how you can have this and still expect marriage as we know it to be a thing, its much more realistic to change norms to not expect/offer either, not that I think its really realistic either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:53 PM
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As a guy in my 40s getting with women in my age range is obviously alot easier. "he cannot get with women his own age because they see thru his bs" and such narratives are absolutely nonsense In regards to pushing the naratives and attempts at shaming I cannot really blame the women, they are guarding their own interests, its just a shit-test tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 01:23 PM
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You cannot really negotiate attraction, there are alot of things that go into why women have sex with guys tho. When I moved to a really nice house I had build I noticed that the chance of having sex when I brought a girl to my place for a date increased quite a bit, I dont think it was all because of potential "gold diggery" and I am pretty sure it actually made me more attractive, just hard for guys to really understand because we dont find wealth/status and a potential partner really having t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 01:18 PM
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Shedding fat and building muscle was a big thing for me, felt like putting the game on easy mode, but I was pretty socially competent already. Being aware of bodylanguage, walking tall, always looking people in the eyes with a relaxed smile and not looking down, taking up more space(manspreading ftw), acting like a fucking dude, made a huge difference, read a book called "The Charisma Myth" imo. Learning to flirt for fun to the point where its just a part of my personality now, I catch myself li…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:55 PM
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Cold approach is not the way for most guys, they are more likely to end up with PTSD than with more confidence. They have a long way to go before they should be doing cold approach. Learning to become bodylanguage aware and learning to spot ioi's and how to react to them is the better first step, socializing normally is a much better way to get rid of social anxiety than cold approach. Today as 20 years ago alot of the things we did in the PUA community can work great for guys who are already co…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 01:13 PM
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Yes, good dating advice is the needle in the haystack, aside from "hit the gym" which for most guys today actually is the single best piece of dating advice they can get. I used to think many years ago that in the future most guys would know the basics because of the internet, but reality was that it just buried the good advice even more in a sea of bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 01:02 PM
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Having two loving parents who can get along beats having two parents who do not get along because one of them got screwed thru the court system or who stay together just because one of them are trying to avoid that. I have a pretty damn good relationship with my ex at this point and I have been pretty generous(by choice) over the years because its good for the kids and she will always be their mother. I would still have been paying alimony if we had divorced at the time when I ended it, would pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 01:49 PM
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Whereas all studies show that childfree folks, married or not, are consistently happier I would like to see such a study as this assertion massively conflicts with my percieved reality, especially as people get older, literally nothing has brought me as much happiness as having kids, even after I subtract all the frustration and worry they have caused me over the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 01:27 PM
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No, you broke that home by not marrying her. lmao, no I avoided breaking myself or being forced to stay with a cheater to avoid economic ruin, 99% sure she would have left if we had been married and she would probably have tried to fight me for custody aswell, instead she wanted to stay because we were not. There’s no talking any sense into men like you. You’re bad for society and I feel sorry for the kids. This really got to you? I can only imagine why, my kids are doing great and will probably…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 01:05 PM
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Actually my ex broke that home, I just did not create a situation where she was massively economically rewarded for doing so, I gladly paid my child support, worth every penny. Why would I value marriage exactly? edit: actually I was not entirely blameless, but I was not the one who got caught cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 12:36 PM
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I am not American and I am already relatively wealthy even before inevitable inheritance, 2006-2007 was good to me. Ex cheated on me and got caught. Always had shared custody, had my boys every 2nd weekend. ​ You think of yourself first and not your family. Men like you don’t need kids at all. I plan of having atleast 2 more tho, kids are great.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 12:19 PM
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Load of nonsense. I have an amazing relationship, not going to risk messing that up by getting married, Imagine having a heated talk about the future of the relationship when things get rough, but one party had a million dollar incentive to stay and the other had a million dollar incentive to leave lol, no thanks, this way its her who has a mild economic incentive to stay because she enjoys opportunity being with a somewhat well off man can offer, but she does not really need me for my money, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 11:56 AM
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No real interest in marriage in general and in my situation getting married would just be dumb, it would also mess with the dynamic in the relationship if a significant economic incentive to stay or leave was a thing, I dont think thats healthy. I am not looking for better, I love my girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 11:20 AM
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You can procreate without getting married Can confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 10:53 AM
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I jokingly told my girlfriend that I may concider marrying her after our 2nd child was born. Truth is that the only situation I can imagine where I would concider getting married is if I was with a girl who needed citizenship to stay with me and it was the only way, or if its to a woman who is more wealthy than me which is extremely unlikely to happind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 10:51 AM
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Have kids, never been married, never going to get married. A guy should never get married to someone less wealthy than him, it will mess with the dynamic of the relationship, if it does not work out thats fine but I would rather a partner have an economic incentive to stay than giving her an economic incentive to leave, not giving anyone that kind of power over me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 10:36 AM
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We wish. Thats not really in dispute.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 11:14 PM
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certainly more socially acceptable for a man. nonsense, but maybe it should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 11:05 PM
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Society has normalized female infidelity and made it ok Disagree, there are like some big society-wide "shit-tests" going on tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 11:05 PM
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I think there are more individual men who cheat alot. More individual women who cheat. I think men suck at getting away with it. I know women are on average total freaks compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 11:00 PM
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Other books I think are useful for guys: "The Charisma Myth" by Olivia Fox Cabane. "Why Women Have Sex" by Mesten/Buss "Sex at dawn" by Ryan/Jetha "Impossible to ignore" by Carmen Simon. "No more mr Nice guy" by Robert Glover I always found Tony Robbins and the whole "power of positive thinking" stuff a bit goofy but I know it has utility for some guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 08:30 AM
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I mostly agree, I just dont think that is necessarily a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 02:43 PM
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There are alot of differences, Sugarbabies often dont really see themselves as prostitutes and it can often be a situation where the money is more of a bonus for doing something they dont really mind and even enjoy, alot more responsibility on the guy to actually be somewhat charming, good company and good in bed, the lines get very blurred sometimes, much more so than is likely to happind with normal prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 01:19 PM
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Thats inefficient, for most guys fwb relationship will be the goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 01:09 PM
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Yeah you dont have to be super rich to be a sugar daddy, if you are super gross you would probably have to but its a huge gray area in between prostitution and fwb relationships and the lines often get very blurred and, its probably not uncommon that alot of actual feelings develop on both sides because obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 01:03 PM
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Damn, I meant to say: I dont think its uncommon or its pretty common. How did I mess that up lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 11:04 PM
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Guys need to be upfront with it and be unapologetic about their male sexual desire, and more unapologetic about who they are in general, they also have to be willing risk making a girl feel a bit uncomfortable and be willing to risk discomfort themselves, they need to be willing to treat a girl just as a friend if she is just a friend, even if that makes her feel bad and their instincts tell them to treat her like she is more than that, be willing to simply walk away, resist the temptation to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 10:46 PM
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I think its pretty common. edit*
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 10:27 PM
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(Updated while you were writing, sorry about that) I am not talking about just looks, I think bodylanguage is massively underrated and not just eye contact, confidence is good and push/pull dynamic can push some attraction triggers, non-neediness is super important, and alot of other factors that most people are not aware of, I have experiemented with it for 2 decades and I still dont really understand most of it I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 10:22 PM
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I know attraction is not a choice, I dont know what "purely physical" even means. edit: There are more things going into mating than only attraction obviously, but without attraction nothing is going to happind ever, not even if I am legitimately her favorite person ever in the whole universe, I have had sex with girls who admitted to thinking at the time that I was an asshole tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 10:03 PM
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True, but that attraction is not a deepening or an evolution of the friendship part of the relationship, its parallel and could develop without the friendship, the proximity and getting to know each other can make people aware of the attraction if there is that potential, if there is not then no level of deep cosmic level friendship will lead to attraction in itself, on the other hand is perfectly possible to have strong attraction without even really liking the person much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 09:55 PM
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What exactly is not a lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 09:34 PM
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Yes, but attractive != handsome, you need to have presense and confidence atleast, I have seen plenty of manipulative players in my time that probably would not get many matches on Tinder today.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:46 PM
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Nah thats mostly a caricature, most nice guys are that way because they have been taught thats how they are supposed to be to not be one of the bad ones, and got reinforcement from enviroment and culture/media during childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:28 PM
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Nice guys seem weak, and women are repulsed by weakness, it does not really matter why they are nice, in my case it was a desire to be the opposite of my asshole father and being influenced by feminist pedagogues, glad I snapped out of that pretty early. I got lucky and got a positive male rolemodel/mentor that was not my dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:21 PM
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Thats fine and all, but "good guy nice guys" are also clueless and not having much luck romantically, not saying NiceGuys™ dont exist and we cannot all redicule them but its to a significant degree a convenient red herring.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:08 PM
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Alot of guys believe that being liked and being attractive is directly related, they think the first step is becoming her friend and that attraction is further down that path, this is to a significant degree cultural programming and not really their fault, atleast not for the young guys. I think the majority of incels probably started out like that and reacted badly when they realized everything they believed about romance was a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:00 PM
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We used to intentionally be dbags to get laid back in the late 90s, we called it doing "caveman game". Sometimes we would even do it sober pretending to be drunk, worked like a charm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:14 PM
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More like "I am only half joking teehee." yes. I have known guys like that and they have 99 problems...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:00 PM
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Ignore feminist strawmen and gaslighting, think of it all like a big shit-test.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 02:52 PM
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Alot of it needs to be taken with a grain of salt, its probably closer to the actual truth than the prevalent cultural programming guys get tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 10:55 AM
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that blue pill advice we're taught is partly responsible for the rise of incel culture today. Definately.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 10:48 AM
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Many(if not most) are also clueless and unaware about alot of basic sh!t in regards to how attraction works, some guys can salf-sabotage for a lifetime and have no idea what went wrong unless someone tells them, and many will even react against people who try to tell them because of social-programming. Guys who are not neurotypical are even less likely to figure these things out on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 03:10 PM
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Many dating problems can be solved by reading a few relevant books, guys are so clueless and popular culture/media is not helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 03:06 PM
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Hating women for being women is just bad game and utterly pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 02:52 PM
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Flirting is such an important skill for guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 02:50 PM
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Yes, but its not really about age in itself, on top of that its a VERY different game with girls our own age than it is for a young guy and girls his own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 02:46 PM
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Perfectly logical, you are thinking of Bob's brother Kenny tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 06:18 PM
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Not really, dependable Bob is just invisible to most women and he gave up on online dating a long time ago. Guys are kinda slave to the META but the women make the rules, it was how the early pickup/seduction community started, they saw what guys the girls went home with and started to analyze and imitate those guys, the big thing at the time was "Dont listen to what women say, watch what women do".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 05:58 PM
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Acceptable compromise from my personal perspective but... The conflicts of interests are not just intersexual, far from it, the guys who are having most of the sex are not the ones who are looking to settle down usually. Average dependable Bob does not benefit at all from tall and confident Dave getting laid more, indirectly its actually pretty bad for Bob, it also ends up being pretty bad for average butterface Jane who thinks she can potentially get married to a guy like Dave just because he b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 05:20 PM
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Either of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:06 PM
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I dont think there is really a good/bad girl binary there, its more like a spectrum and whether a girl engages in casual sex with me is just as much about me as it is about her, and alot of random factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:04 PM
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This is not my experience at all, if we are talking a ons with what is basically a total stranger then sure, unless the stars just happined to align perfectly obviously lol. I just dont want guys to be naive and think that just because she is making him wait that she also made the last guy wait or will make the next guy wait, it only really tells a guy that she is not engaging in casual sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 12:51 PM
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I expect that either way tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 12:14 PM
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Thats not going to happind lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 12:04 PM
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Its a bit of a luxury belief for most guys imo. I think its perfectly valid for guys to care about obviously, but if a handful of previous partners is a problem for a guy dating adult women he is being silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 11:54 AM
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Updated post, probably while you were typing. My advice to guys is still: Dont be that guy, better to a banana than and avocado if you cannot be both, it will save alot of heartbreak.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 11:43 AM
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This sounds like the same shit all guys say And with good reason. and then half complain when she's slept with a handful of people that she's no longer long term material. I dont share this view.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 11:36 AM
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Nonsense imo, after 3-4 dates I am just going to assume lack of chemistry unless there is atleast some serious sexual tension and at that point its just a silly game, guys should not get with girls who are shopping for Mr. Practical unless they are running out of options. "Dont be her avocado if she does not want you as her banana" I slept with a girl once who had been dating a guy for months, dont be that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 11:18 AM
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I like gender roles and think they are mostly downstream of biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 02:33 AM
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Need a 3rd option here, how about: equality under the law for all individuals regardless of gender and people can live how they choose and we let the chips fall where they may? cmon, work with me here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 02:28 AM
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If those are the only two choices I choose bust.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 02:05 AM
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What we saw at the Oscars was not the actions of a confident man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:42 AM
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Just trim downstairs and dont go full legbeard and we are good. I spend more than 5 hours a week working to look/feel good for a woman, and I also trim downstairs. I dont think its too much to ask and it really is appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:31 AM
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My gender flipped version version includes 5+ hours a week at the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:23 AM
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I am way too old to want to seriously date a female me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 10:00 PM
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The biggest gym bro I know is a software engineer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 09:55 PM
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Not a woman but here is something that is true: Being genuine is underrated and a better mating strategy than being "alpha", this does not mean being naive or being an open book or not being cocky.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 09:47 PM
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I think people here are often rather good at calling out sh!t
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 09:45 PM
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Maybe a bit early lol, I was a part of the early PUA community in my early-mid 20s and already had some life experience, it was a very postive and helpful male space at that time, that was a few years before that stupid "The Game" book came out. I remember reading some post called "20 things NOT to do when trying to seduce women" or something like that and I was like: omfg thats me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:14 PM
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From what I have seen if a bunch of males showed up and imposed a screeching and rediculous hecklers veto on a feminist event like I have seen going the other way the result would probably be mass arrests and alot of men losing their jobs and shit. But what do I know, who the hell has time for activism anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:00 PM
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Just "quarantined", I dont know what practical implications that has. edit: "Confessions of a reformed incel" still on the sidebar :) If someone here identifies with the incel community they should probably read that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 03:00 PM
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Was that really what got that sub quarantined? Its certainly a bit edgy and could get some clueless guys into alot of trouble especially if they skipped past the part about a safeword and not actually established one in advance. If someone characterized it as "advocating violence towards women" I would write them off as disingenious, I would call irresponsible for not emphasizing the importance of a safeword tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 02:51 PM
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Last I checked the TRP subreddit is a bit of a shitshow? I still like a guy like Rian Stone on youtube especially his cooking vids, he is pretty much what TRP was a decade ago before it was overrun by LARPers and Incels. I dont think I really disagree with your overall point but most RPish spaces suffer from the same problem of getting sucked into some culture war, hating women for being women or fighting with feminists instead of simply ignoring them, yes culture is biased against men and the e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 01:42 PM
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Men and womens "interests" are not aligned and do in fact often conflict, a guy not being jealous and possessive shows value/confidence, like he does not have to worry because he knows he is the best option, on the other hand a guy being possesive, jealous and controlling can make it harder for a woman to "explore her options". I have heard some pretty wild takes on the importance of paternity certainty from some women, where from men I pretty much know what their take will be. Obviously for a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 01:21 PM
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Paternity uncertainty, duh?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 10:52 PM
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I would be willing to bet that the average incel does not actually have high standards, putting aside that his mindset pretty much disqualifies and sabotages him lowering him several leagues obviously. But its been many years since I interacted with that community, got to remember that its to a large extent a LARP/Cope what you see on their forums. The times I had incels 1 on 1 it seemed they had pretty basic standards, but did not believe lowering standards would make any difference, I think in…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 09:26 PM
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If taken with a grain of salt I cannot disagree with that, its definately a real dynamic if not 100% universal. I think the height meme has gotten a bit out of hand tho, I am like 5'8½ (in northern Europe).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 08:27 PM
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I got pretty lucky aswell, met the right girls at the right time in a world before the internet. Also I was into martial arts and had gotten into a few fights while being with a large social group at concerts in my mid teens, this made me interesting to some girls despite me being extremely clueless and a bit of a sperg and gave me a reputation. Without martial arts and with online gaming I would have been screwed I think
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 07:58 PM
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Also confidence leads to success which leads to confidence, and thats very true in the opposite direction with failure aswell.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 07:41 PM
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OLD has MASSIVELY raised that threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 07:39 PM
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Men tend to be adaptive imo, I have seen this with guys who went a long time with no options and intimacy, its often not even about the conciously lowering standards or toning down their ego, they will literally start being attracting to different types of women, it tends to not improve their chances much tho. I dont think its the same for women, I have heard claims that female chubby chasers exist for example, but I am pretty sure they are unicorns.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 07:27 PM
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There is this prevailing cultural narrative that women are less shallow than men, when the reality is that on average women are probably a bit more shallow than men, and the whole WaW effect combined with the empathy gap. When this kind of thing clashes with reality its an incel machine, its not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 07:20 PM
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Kinda but not really, if a girl is really attracted to me I can get away with all kinds of shit in a relationship, once she is less so she starts to notice all the flaws and no longer appreciate the positives as much, I realized that when I ran into some serious health issues while in a relationships. I will say you cannot maintain a LTR on looks alone obviously and there are other important factors to attraction like confidence/bodylanguage but once the attraction goes personality and most othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 07:05 PM
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I was remember being amazed back in the day at how much 10 weeks on gear and lifting alot of heavy weight improved my personality, suddenly my nerdy and quirky personality was super interesting and attractive, funny how that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 06:43 PM
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I am a big jolly 5'9 teddybear lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 07:40 PM
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I have only ever met one female dom who did it purely for pleasure, I think male subs are pretty rare aswell, definately straight ones, maybe not quite that rare?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 07:32 PM
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Its something I kinda fell into in my late 20s and found out I really enjoyed, something I really had no idea I would be as good at as I am, it was initially more because woman are into it and being good in bed is something that I strive for. I am not a lifestyle dom and its not really on the level of a fetish, I dont feel a need to be super dominant in relationships in general. I found out that the demand for guys who can credibly do what I do FAR outweighs the supply which was great for a sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 06:00 PM
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Sure. I think we are talking about two totally different things here tho, I am talking about sexual kinks and the average confident well adjusted adult woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 05:07 PM
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Its for sure ALOT more universal than guys getting off on being dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 04:12 PM
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Yes. Probably more get off on being dominated and not having control, anecdotally I would say most women like it to some degree, with the right guy in the right situation obviously, almost too common to really be concidered a kink imo, its more like just good sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 04:10 PM
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I think its pretty obvious that the difference between feeling safe/unsafe relative to situation between men and women is much greater than the actual reality of being safe/unsafe relative to situation between men and women. Even with that being said I think women especially massively overestimate how safe the average man actually feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 03:55 PM
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I think you may be hearing political when I say masculinity. Going to make dinner now, ty for the chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 03:49 PM
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I had no idea lol, I am going to keep using as I use it tho, I am pretty apolitical and an atheist. I dont care what boxes some religious wierdo's or tradcons try to force masculinity into. If you married a military guy its a safe bet that you like 95% of women find masculine guys pretty attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 03:13 PM
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Projection, a part of the problem is women projecting aswell. I dont think men are generally that angry out in the real world, but I cut my teeth before online dating was the norm and only used it for a few years on more kink oriented sites so what do I know, a large part of my social circle are other men who lift weights and do martial arts, and those dont tend to have problems getting laid, even the short ones lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:48 PM
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Its pretty self-explanatory? Way too many men are afraid to embrace their masculinity, are hormone deficient because of pollutants and lifestyle, bought into some feminist narrative and are trying to reject masculinity for political reasons and shaming and shit like that, probably often a combination of factors. I have no idea if "unapologetic masculinity" is used in some particular context in some online subculture or something, I have never googled it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:29 PM
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I think the majority of them are essentially incels and not really going for any women and spending most of their time online, a small percentage of them are hitting the gym and spinning plates but not really posting, its like with PUA after that "The Game" book, those of us who actually were succesful mostly stopped using the forums a few years after that because it was taken over by people trying to sell sh!t, and most stopped calling themselves PUAs unless they were trying to sell sh!t. I kne…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:15 PM
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I think more of them come from being good little agreeable feminist'ish boys who grew up watching 'Friends' deathly afraid of rejection and making women feel uncomfortable, at some point their sexual frustration fried their brains, accepting that their cultural programming set them up for failure they reacted angrily and went to the extreme opposite, just like the average incel I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:03 PM
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Because women are not men, it should be obvious why, birth control and even society as we know it is a very recent invention and we still operate mostly on wetware that is hundreds of thousands of years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:41 PM
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It also means that there is good chemistry imo, unless there is that "spark" I am not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:35 PM
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"Being a slut is easy, being a stud is hard" Reality is that the vast majority of men dont really have the option of riding any kind of carousel, and the ones that do are also the ones who women their age want to date, for them its a sellers market. There is a large mass of "invisible" guys who would be happy to just be able to find a nice girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:24 PM
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On the other hand its mostly women who are strongly opposed to legalization, this probably has nothing to do with protecting the "poor exploited women" despite the rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:19 PM
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Alot of prostitutes actually fill that role, but there is also some responsibility on the client, a guy can have amazing experiences with the right pro if he comes in with the right mindset, some men(or women) may need an actual sex-therapist with a larger toolset tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:08 PM
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Bad model, keeps prostitutes from going to the police because it puts their customers at risk, making them more vulnerable to abuse. Full legalization while keeping pimping illegal is the way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:03 PM
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Depends on your needs, I really like dating because I like women and people in general, makes it alot easier, and I usually have some girl in my life I can hook up with if I am single. I am not against paying for sex or for a shortcut as a sugardaddy, its all good.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:56 PM
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I will date feminist women if they have a sense of humour and its not something they have as a big part of their identity, radicals are tiresome in general, this has lead to some really fun moments. I have made it months into intimate relationships without ever really talking about politics tho, real life is not twitter and there is so many things that interest me, politics is boring and not personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:50 PM
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Its really not a very good topic for casual conversation on a date tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:45 PM
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No one really likes culture warriors and hardcore political tribalists tho? Depending on enviroment you could hang out with an average conservative and and average liberal for a long time without being able to tell them apart unless you actually decide to have a political discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:39 PM
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I think most normal men want a girl who is compassionate and kind, not cold and logical, maybe even a girl who is a tiny little bit naive, its cute. Most women are also attracted to unapologetic masculinity which can be quite an obstacle course for some guys who exist in a leftist political enviroment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:35 PM
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Similar dynamic with girlfriend, she is very leftwing and was super feministy when we met.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:19 PM
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Its more efficient to keep girls around, getting that initial hook is the hard part, its alot less work than the constant chase, also sex gets better when you have alot of sex with the same girl, atleast until you get tired of fucking her. Ons is very inefficient and usually not that great, for most guys, even those of us with decent looks and game getting an attractive girl into bed the first time is usually not that easy, having her come back for more is(for me atleast) the norm. We are not wo…
/r/ExRedPill02/10/19 11:28 AM
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Good: hit the gym, dont be an open book, its okay to date non-exclusively, dont get married if you are wealthy, be your own mental point of origin, embrace masculinity, have less shame, abundance mentality, getting rid of some unattractive behaviors, ignore feminists. Bad: dont show vulnerability, become dark triad, negative mindset about women in general, alot of bad game and seemingly a total ignorance about how charisma works, forgetting to have fun, overtinking and overgeneralizing, change y…
/r/ExRedPill02/10/19 11:11 AM
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The main reason for RedPill's popularity is that most guys have really bad game and are encouraged by popular culture to have bad game, in this context TRP is punk.
/r/ExRedPill23/09/19 09:20 AM
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Guys can use womens hope of a provider to get great sex if they play their cards right, if they are good in bed they can even have some of the girls develop feelings for them and keep them around for months getting huge amounts of awesome sex. Its not anymore ethical than golddigging but its something most guys who are great provider material can do if they have a little game, are fit and are not too bluepill.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 08:18 PM
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I think my example is more likely what happined, guys are not turned on by dumb, they are turned on by warmth, cuteness, femininity and turned off by dominant, masculine behavior. Maybe you playing dumb made you come off as more warm and feminine compared to your previous demeanor which was probably too dominant and masculine. But it was probably not the playing dumb in itself that made the difference. What I found out many years ago is that the best way to create attraction is to play/embrace y…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 02:31 PM
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Most of them probably because they were too insecure to make a move, or were under the illusion that friendship leads to attraction, many guys fall into that trap, its why we have NiceGuys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 05:38 PM
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Only to a degree and in a certain way. What women say they want(and sometimes even think they want) and what they actually want is often not the same thing.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/19 07:25 PM
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'Models' is great, also 'The Charisma Myth' is very useful.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/19 11:28 AM
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Negging for example never worked with girls who lacked confidence, it worked really well on popular pretty girls because usually no one had the balls to do something like that. With a sweet shy girl you will just come off as a total asshole.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/19 04:53 PM
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What is your issue dude? Are you very short or freakshow ugly? You are probably not. Likely the reason you get negative reactions from girls are things you can change, whats the alternative?
/r/ExRedPill09/08/19 08:17 AM
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You need to figure out what you are doing wrong so you can get from failure to success, one thing is likely your needy and angry mindset, you probably give off a horrible vibe at this point, girls sense that, its a survival mechanism for them, stop focusing on individual girls, maybe get an escort to get the desperation out of your system, take 6 months off from dating to get your mind and body straight instead of crushing your soul with failure, you obviously have no game and have unattractive …
/r/ExRedPill09/08/19 07:57 AM
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Guys with limited options are desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 12:48 PM
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You seem to be working with the faulty assumption that just because a guy with options will sleep with a girl he would marry her, I have slept with girls I would not even walk down the the street holding hands with lol. A girls could sleep with 100 guys while on her "CC" with none of them being a marriage option for her, its usually the guys with less options that are marriage material unless she is really exceptional as a person(most girls are not).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 12:01 PM
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Read 'Models' by Mark Manson, its full of excellent dating advice.
/r/ExRedPill08/08/19 11:24 AM
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-Get to know women, and especially get to know them NOT as purely potential sexual conquests, but as human beings with their own internal life, hopes, dreams, reasoning, logic, and complexity, This is how to be succesful at sexual conquest too, many guys vastly underestimate the power of genuinely liking and being interested in women as people as a mating strategy, combine this with a degree of physical attractiveness and non-needyness and "sexual conquest" becomes so easy that the term loses it…
/r/ExRedPill06/08/19 02:23 PM
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5'9 with kind of a babyface here, I do hit the gym tho. I have absolutely no problem getting laid, I have even banged other guys wives because I am that shameless and charming, I dont think your problem is a physical one. Get help before you ruin your life and someone elses.
/r/ExRedPill06/08/19 01:52 PM
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The empathy gap is obviously real, but its mostly a result evolutionary hardwires and I see no way to change it. Women care more about women and men care more about women, its just the way it is. I totally respect activists trying to raise awareness and create change but its an uphill battle to put it mildly, as individuals all we can do is adapt, tears (no matter how genuine and justified) only matter if someone cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 09:15 AM
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Most guys have not experienced going from average skinnyfat to physically strong, it changes everything, it will blow guys minds how it changes how women interact with them. Its not some niche bodybuilder groupie thing nor is it about sixpack abs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 11:48 AM
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This is very true in my experience, subconcious attraction is a powerful lens. Tho to be fair a part of the attraction is probably also confidence/bodylanguage not purely looks, but mind/body is connected.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 11:15 AM
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Normal dude + pretty muscular and fit = top 20% Unatractive dude + pretty muscular and fit = SexyUgly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 10:52 AM
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Muscles are a game changer for alot of guys imo, but there are serious diminishing returns and looking like a huge bodybuilder is not that helpful. After becoming somewhat muscular again I have no doubt that it makes a huge difference for getting sex, alot more first date sex and more Tinder matches, hitting the weights is the best return on investment guys can get in regards to dating imo, atleast initially, "The iron is the best tailor". I think TRP probably does not recognice the diminishing …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 10:46 AM
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A single one night stand sure maybe, getting hookups consistantly to satiate your sexual appetite thats a whole other thing, and if you are in a position to get hookups semi regularly you will have no problem getting into a ltr if you want, it will probably even be something you have to actively avoid falling into by pulling the brakes with girls you are banging. For alot of guys getting a ltr is doable but getting hookups or fwb's is just not going to happind.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 08:23 PM
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Low value MGTOW'esque post imo. LTRs would probably even be more difficult. Getting a LTR is significantly easier than maintaining FWB relationships or getting a steady stream of hookups, your cluelessness and inexperience is showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 02:37 PM
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Its not entirely untrue, but its usually coming from individuals with very little empathy for men and who have no clue how mens relationships work and how men bond, and is usually more motivated by a desire to attack men and masculinity than by any desire to help men. My experience with close friends is that men could be better at asking for help, often because society does not gaf about men compared to women, But that men are pretty good at being there for each other on an individual level.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 11:30 PM
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And OP has never been privy to male conversation and it shows. I assume the post was well meaning but it was utterly clueless. edit: point being it was a rediculous reply to a rediculous post.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 09:13 PM
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We do talk about our problems with each other tho, we just dont have long conversations about our feelings about our problems, because that would be mindnumbing and pointless, we give each other assurances that we are there for each other, we propose possible solutions and go do things together that makes the guy who is feelings down feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 09:02 PM
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Me and my close friends actually hug when we meet sometimes, thats pretty normal where I am from. We still dont communicate like women tho, and we are not supposed to, that would be horrible and mindnumbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 08:52 PM
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We're not broken women. Exactly, this overbearing bullshit is so tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 08:36 PM
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Yeah I added an edit after I read your other anwers, girls usually dont approach, you must have some kind of magic or look very safe and approachable. I get alot of ioi's and approach invitations but girls cold approaching me virtually never happinds unless they are drunk, and I am a pretty attractive guy I am told.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 08:23 PM
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Why are your only sexual experiences with pro's then? You are anonymous here, drop the ego imo. edit: read your other answer, makes sense, I agree with you on why guys get pushed towards the manosphere, even tho I think parts of the manosphere is a trap and its not really coherent in any way, its wildly different groups with limited overlap, calling it a sphere is kinda dumb unless people want to tarnish people they oppose by painting them as one, in which case its just Goebbels 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 07:51 PM
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First thing guys like you need to do is drop the slave morality and stop giving a fuck about what manhaters and prudes think. Also sex work is real work, and alot of the girls who do it really love their job, there is a reason its mostly women who oppose legal prostitution, and it has nothing to do with protecting other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 07:46 PM
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I imagine its not that different from a young guy feels by being good enough to be a girls "BFF" but not good enough for intimacy. Unless its one of those rare cases where the girl actually tries to help him get him laid, this is rare because she risks losing alot of his attention if he gets a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 10:36 AM
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Alot of blackpill thinking has snuck into TRP last I looked, and they tend to exaggerate how much is really needed for a guy to be succesful with women, I do agree that hitting the weights is a must, its the best return on investment most guys can get, but they tend to not talk about the diminishing returns, most girls are not into big bodybuilders. Also game is 90+% mindset, because mindset translates into alot of bodylanguage and subcommunication that is impossible to conciously control, and T…
/r/ExRedPill25/07/19 10:20 AM
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Love is always conditional, I think men tend to be a bit more idealistic in how they love tho, and more controlled by feelings of honor/loyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 09:53 AM
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Yes, some girls do, mostly girls who are outsiders and dont fit in with contemporary youth culture or girls who were ostracized from a local FSM for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 09:46 AM
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Being liked and being attractive is not directly related, thats one of the biggest misunderstanding that causes guys grief imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 09:39 AM
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Yes, I have met plenty of girls who did not catch my eye at first but after interacting with her I really wanted to be with her, or girls who I initially found attractive but their personality was just a turnoff. On RMV its more about keeping me around, making my days better and making me feel good about myself, making me feel desired/appreciated, great sex, not stressing me out. Some girls seem to think guys appreciate a little drama and some emotional roller coaster rides because women often d…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 09:38 AM
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Mens standards usually correlate somewhat to their options imo, virtually all men choose women for casual sex if they can, most cant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 09:22 AM
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Just a little screaming, losely translated to "you think you are such hot shit dont you", "I am not interested in you either", and calling me a word that translates losely into something similar to "cock tease" but applied to males, stuff like that, nothing serious but embarassing and uncomfortable for me aswell as the other people in the restaurant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 09:26 PM
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When I became single again at 40 the bread and butter of my sexual diet were women from late 20s to late 30s, many of them single moms, even tho I had gotten a bit overweight and out of shape near the end of my previous relationship it was chockingly easy, I had no idea. Most of them obviously hoped a good sexual relationship would lead to something more, and I am not the kind of guy who lets himself get strung along in a long sexless courtship. After 6 months of losing weight and getting back i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 09:20 PM
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Alot of guys dont get that, they dont realize charisma is a skillset, they think its something innate and magical that some have and others dont. And they are often actively discouraged and even sabotaged by peers and culture, and bad advice like "just be yourself". Dont get me wrong guys have to be themselves and not have a fake persona, but they have no idea how much "yourself" is a choice and a journey, they think its something that just is, unalterable.
/r/ExRedPill24/07/19 04:08 PM
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Sexyugly is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 03:53 PM
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But they strongly prefer their own age. In my social circles, just about all couples match in age, give or take a couple of years. People tend to mate and match with those they are around, when in a social situation around a hobby with a mix of young/old and with people outside their normal social circle there seems to be no such preference, quite the opposite, the older guys seem to have an edge on most of the younger guys. I see girls that have been hurt or who can't get the guys they want goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 03:07 PM
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When nearing 40 all the guys who potentially want (more)kids are no longer a real option, sure some of those guys will still date them for sex while they are looking for someone to start a relationship and have kids with. I agree that womens options for purely sexual relationships with guys their own age dont change that much, I think most will have to lower their standards significantly but there will always be an abundance of dick and simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 11:23 AM
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This is not my impression at all after becoming single again at 40, I do get some entitled unsexy dates but I just move on and dont waste my energy, I usually finish the date because I want to avoid her throwing a tantrum and making a public scene which I have experienced a few times. Obviously its not like everything is suddenly flipped upside down compared to when I was younger, girls often come to a date with alot of superficial confidence initially but that facade often cracks pretty fast. D…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 11:07 AM
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I dont think PPD has really changed my opinion, but it has on a few occasions given me a bit of insight into why other people particularly women feel differently than I do. Going from "thats just a stupid/wrong opinion/view" to "I can see why you would have that impression". It has made me aware of some of the reasons men/women misunderstand and talk past each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 09:52 AM
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From a guys perspective I get it, nothing he said was particularly wierd, just honesty coming from a clueless perspective, its a very common sexual fantasy with normal healthy young guys I think, its a little bit of projecting their male mindset on girls, young guys as a general rule do not have female friends they would not want to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 04:19 PM
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AWALT and the entire absolutism that totally ignores that women are individuals. Their view of hypergamy, most women are not constantly looking to monkeybranch or to jump on alpha dick, and will settle for the best guy they can keep long term and usually wont risk losing a good thing over a guy having a moment of weakness. Their one dimensional view of SMP, its not just a matter of value, compatibility is a thing, some people just click if there is some attraction, others dont even if there is i…
/r/ExRedPill23/07/19 02:35 PM
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I think you are projecting, I dont think trying to shame OP for wanting something different than you is very helpful, its not his fault that you have bad experience with players. I do agree that OP should not be looking for one time hookups, but I dont get the impression that is what he is after. Most good sex is mutually validational.
/r/ExRedPill23/07/19 11:30 AM
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Flirting is a skill, make it a habit to smile at girls you meet, and have short fun conversations where appropriate to get comfortable with it, once you get really comfortable flirting will be easy enough to learn. Confidence and non-needyness is pretty big imo, bodylanguage is really where the magic happinds, its more important than what comes out of your mouth as long as you are not being a wierdo verbally. Confidence can be a choice to some degree because lets be honest most guys either have …
/r/ExRedPill23/07/19 10:59 AM
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If the husband is not a friend then sure, if I dont even know who the husband is then I dont care. In my experience alot of married women are easier to fuck than single ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 10:10 AM
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Possibly, my reason for often avoiding (conventionally)unattractive young girls is not because I am turned off by how they look, but they are more likely to have unattractive or outright unpleasant personalities. edit: from what I have heard from girls this is also a thing with short guys and guys with small dicks, probably for similar reasons, after awhile negativity and redicule from members of the opposite sex is bound to rub off on people and make them bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 09:41 AM
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Imo ugly/pretty for young guys is often more about ego than erection. I have been with many girls who were not super pretty but who were very sexy to me and great fun in bed, my fwb is a bit of a tomboy and I guess you could say an outsider, she does not get much attention from guys her own age, she has an almost perfect body for my taste tho and is amazing in bed. Obviously if he takes his ego with him into the bedroom thats not going to work.
/r/ExRedPill23/07/19 07:54 AM
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Very interesting perspective, I am sure alot of guys could benefit from reading that, the vast majority of guys who end up identifying with those subcultures start out as genuine naive well meaning guys who just want to be loved long before they get to be jaded, angry and misogynistic after realizing that they have been lied to, things like TRP really is a bad solution more than the problem in itself, it it certainly incorporates grains of inconvenient truth with all the bs and takes real tenden…
/r/ExRedPill22/07/19 09:48 PM
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In some cases I am sure that is true, and I am just brightening up their day a bit as they are mine, in other cases I get the usual indicators of attraction and playful shit tests, I have made out with very young girls at concerts a few times so I am pretty sure its not always that, I also had girls give me their snapchat twice this summer(without me asking), obviously if they are with a peer group its very different and I usually stay in my lane or engage the entire group if I feel like it and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 08:54 PM
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40, looks younger, told I am quite good looking, quite muscular, not tall tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 08:18 PM
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Indeed, this is just as true for guys who gets friendzoned as it is for girls who get friends-with-benefits zoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 02:09 PM
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Can be done tho, when the guy realizes that what he is currently doing is not working. I think the biggest thing a guy can do to get out of a friendzone is to have sex with her friends and other girls in general, its by far the most attractive thing he can do, if he is not in a position to do that then he needs to get himself into that position by becoming more attractive and less unattractive. In most cases if a guy gets to that point the original girl will probably not be that special to him(e…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 02:05 PM
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As a guy I agree, thats just horrible advice for an inexperienced sex newbie.
/r/ExRedPill22/07/19 01:10 PM
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Funny thing I have noticed: really attractive girls in their late teens and early 20s are really nice to an older guy like me, less attractive ones not so much, especially overweight girls just scowl at me, while their attractive friend puts up a big warm smile and maintain eye contact for a bit, they also respond really well to me being a bit goofy and flirtatious, getting all girly giggly and blushing and seemingly enjoying the attention, while ugly girls that age just act cold or rude. ​ Any …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 12:38 PM
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What I meant to say was that you cant hide that kind of negative mindset unless you are literally a psychopath, Ted Bundy was pretty charming but I suspect that hybristophilia was a factor aswell. Not putting women on a pedestal is great, way too many "bluepill"(kinda hate pill metaphors but utility) guys do that, they also misunderstand attraction and think its realated to being liked, when they get frustrated enough they either become "NiceGuys" or seek out answers and often end up in places l…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 11:18 PM
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Nah, it just has to be the right situation and there has to be attraction, you dont have to be "Chad", I have gotten laid off pretty direct game plenty of times and I am 5'8", I am muscular and charming AF tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 11:01 PM
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Its what TRP calls abundance mentality, I used to do autosuggestion in front of the mirror before going out to clubs back in the early 2k's and it worked wonders and let me actually anchor it in something real after I had initial success. One of the things that repulses me about the TRP is that they basically destroy what is useful "inner game" by stewing in misogyny and other negativity, being able to just flirt and have fun and be somewhat outcome independent is so much more useful, they talk …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 10:41 PM
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No matter how much a girl likes a guy she will not sleep with him without attraction, if there is attraction but he is a total dbag she may talk herself out of sleeping with him tho, but she is more likely to sleep with a guy she hates but is attracted to than her favorite guy in the whole world without attraction, I wish more guys would get this simple truth and prioritize attraction. Dont try to change her mind, try to change her mood, learn to enjoy the company of women, learn to have fun wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 09:55 PM
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A guy can never convince a girl to sleep with him, he can change how she feels about sleeping with him. Begging is just stupid, being willing to just smile and walk away works wonders tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 09:43 PM
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I dont like to verbalize unless its a very confident girl and the situation is right, I will sometimes but its very situational, bodylanguage is where the magic is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 09:28 PM
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Yeah, its pretty much the same with girls who have "if below 6' swipe left" in their bio, unless they are really tall themselves, its more a meme/ego thing than about actual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 09:16 PM
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I am not talking about pulling my dick out lol, there is no way around being sexual and flirtatious, we are not in elementary school passing around notes here. Its also about signalling confidence and courage, it works and if more guys were aware of how well it works they would not be wasting time in friendzones.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 09:10 PM
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Guys are really shooting themselves in the foot with that shit, but its not like guys are usually being told that its okay to be overtly sexual and maybe risk making a woman uncomfortable tho, especially not these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 08:56 PM
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Learn to enjoy the company of women is like Game 101 tho. The problem is guys forget the whole be sexual part because they have been taught to be wuzzies. ​ Nah "Chad" knows exactly what he is doing, he just has good game instead of bad game.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 08:51 PM
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I used to like men and cut them a lot more slack than I do now. Thats great, now you should be able to better empathize with guys who end up on TRP ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 08:43 PM
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If they say explicitly: "I only want to be your friend" then yes thats deceptive. But thats usually not what we are talking about here, and its not what was OP's example.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 08:36 PM
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It actually is a decent comparison, guys get friendzoned, girls get friends-with-benefits zoned, and in both cases its their own responsibility in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 08:31 PM
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This is also my philosophy, and even if its girls I am not banging ex-lovers make the best female friends by far.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 08:29 PM
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I disagree, they are mostly just misguided and have inefficient and weak game, and they kinda have to put themselves in a position to be around you to persue you, or to find out if they even want to, and people are neither owed sex nor friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 08:25 PM
1

Those are comparatively rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 08:19 PM
3

It rarely works tho, being around a girl can work if she finds something about him attractive, but its never because of their friendship deepening directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 08:18 PM
1

It should not be, unless he is not attracted to her and actually wants to only be her friend. The problem is guys thinking attraction comes from friendship, that if she likes them enough that will mean attraction. Its usually just bad game by guys who dont know any better. Could he stay friends with her after rejection? Sure if he wants, as long as he persues other girls and does not overinvest in her in hopes she will change her mind(she wont if he does not pull back his investment), in any cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 08:09 PM
2

Better than trying to be a girls friend as a mating strategy, its silly to verbalize it like that tho(tho it can work if there is some attraction and you are confident) but your have to make you intentions clear from the start in actions and bodylanguage, so she is not confused about your intentions being to be more than friends, she can then reject you or not and you are not wasting your time, or confusing her, or in case she is the kind of girl likes to play games and use guys who have a crush…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 08:06 PM
4

Because they are misguided, they think friendship and attraction is somehow related, because thats what they have been told by hollywood, disney and culture in general, they dont know any better mating strategies, they then get understandably confused and frustrated. To be fair most girls are also delusional in assuming platonic intentions, and some girls know but just like the attention/validation or outright use those guys. ​ Its the main bluepill delusion that leads guys to seek out the red p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 07:58 PM
8

Mostly the contract imo, cohabitation is a must for raising children, and I have quite enjoyed sharing my life with a woman. In my case marriage is not an option because I have too much to lose, it would also mess up the dynamic of the relationship if one partner had alot to gain by leaving and the other alot to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 06:18 PM
-1

Realistically, if you’re just taller than her, have great chemistry and can make her laugh and escalate, she won’t next you for not being an entire foot taller. Exactly, and guys have no idea how insecure women are over all kinds of shit. They take the stupid bait and become insecure, not realising that the insecurity is a bigger factor in them not getting laid than the thing they are made to feel insecure about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 02:30 PM
-1

I have seen many short guys with great success with women over the years, none of them particularly rich, I think online dating is a bit different tho, because a guy is often left swiped over a fashionable meme where if she met him in a bar he would make her drench her panties. Dont get me wrong tho, height is obviously an advantage and really short guys are screwed unless they are exceptional in some way or get lucky and meet the right girl, but average height guys like 5'7 to 5'9 can do just f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 02:14 PM
-2

Nah women dont know what they want, sure height can make a guy more sexually attractive and really short guys are screwed, but a significant part of the height thing is more a fashionable meme than its the reality of desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 11:24 AM
16

Probably yes, I am glad i grew up before online dating was a thing, where people actually met instead of just swiping, I have slept with many women over the years who would probably have swiped left on me and would never have met me if it was today, even had some of them fall in love with me and share a wonderful relationship with me, some of them I still concider friends. Online dating gives a fake picture of options to girls especially I think, because many of them think the kind of guy they c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 11:01 AM
1

Its the empathy gap, no one cares about mens problems and everyone wants to save women. Its a subconcious thing where weakness in men is unattractive and weakness in women can seem almost endearing, Its probably evolutionarily hardwired to a significant degree. Women who say men should express their emotions more(which usually means express emotions in a more feminine way) are usually those who are most disgusted by weakness in men and by men who show emotion in a feminine way(or at all), and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/19 05:01 PM
3

Its often not fun being an unattractive girl either, they are certainly not afforded all the priviledges more attractive girls are, but the empathy gap is obviously real.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 11:26 PM
1

True, a man does not really need a womans concent to get a DNA test tho, even in France(they usually mail the swabs to Belgium and dont really care about the potential punishment from what I hear) its easy enough if he has access to the child, but he will often have wasted almost a year of his life before he knows, and may be stuck paying for a bastard anyway in many places.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 08:22 PM
3

Thats a horrible mindset tho, sacrificing individuals for "the greater good" is not good. I think you need to take a good hard look in the mirror before accusing others.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 08:15 PM
4

Its a pretty good comparison, there are things that turn men/women on/off for evolved reasons that are hardwired into us, even tho those reasons are not longer very valid in modern society, women no longer need an individual man to be able to physically protect her, nor does she need him to be able to run down prey with a spear, yet women still tend to like tall fit men, we now have dna tests so parternal uncertainty should not be a thing, yet guys are still turned off by a girl having a high n-…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 09:06 AM
1

I think alot more men are having no sex today honestly, and some men are having alot, thats my impression anyway, but its not an entirely new trend. I know guys who are banging multible new girls a month, sometimes several a week, and who are basically running harems, often without the girls really being aware of the extent of it, and I know quite a few guys who are not even trying anymore. I am pretty sure people are more likely to be single today, but this is just my impression from observatio…
/r/ExRedPill19/07/19 02:01 AM
0

Approach it with a little more vulnerability and be a bit more genuine and you will get girls who will be more patient, for now dont try to be smooth/cool. If you have a big dick attitude when seducing a girl you better be able to back it up, she will be expecting good dick and zero wierdness. I have gotten away with whiskey dick a few times(and had PiV sex in the morning) because I am really good with my tongue and fingers but that takes practice too. Tho you can learn the basics of eating puss…
/r/ExRedPill19/07/19 01:36 AM
1

That could definately be equivalent I agree, but there really is no symmetry, men and women are just different.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/19 03:02 PM
1

The male equivalent of a slut is an incel.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/19 02:52 PM
1

Looking younger than I am sucked when I was 20yo, but its AWESOME now.
/r/askTRP17/07/19 09:37 AM
1

Its very common here for couples with children to not be married, my parents got married for mutual practical reasons after having their second child. Marriage is not more likely to make people stay together, aside from when the cost of divorce is too great for the one who wants to leave, which is not healthy anyway. In the past marriage made sense, today its obsolete.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 09:20 AM
2

Open marriage seems like a silly idea, why not just be in an open relationship or be really close friends with benefits living together? And this is coming from someone who has done the whole swinging thing with a girlfriend and alot of foursomes, which is very different from an open relationship or (even worse) poly wierdness and much less likely to end in disaster imo, I can see how an open relationship could maybe make sense, but an open marriage no way. I dont get why anyone would think marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 09:05 AM
0

Guys need to have a little situational awareness and need to respect hard boundaries with women Stop whacking away at that poor strawman in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 02:56 PM
12

Thats silly. Guys need to have a little situational awareness and need to respect hard boundaries with women, but most guys are way too timid with women imo. Guys do need to realize that how far you can push boundaries is really related to their level of attractiveness, the difference between being viewed as charming as opposed to a creep can be as little as a bit of confidence and presence, some upper body muscle and a lower fat%, its not fair but it is reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 08:26 AM
6

Forgive yourself and try to stop thinking too much, we all have periods of our lives that we are not proud of. Drop the feminism, its not a useful framework for men, I dont mean become antagonistic against it since thats a waste of energy aswell, and its not really interesting as a conversational subject either, adopt a "individuals being equal under the law regardless of gender? Sure I guess I am a feminist then" mindset and leave it at that. Hit the gym, its a cliche for a reason, attraction c…
/r/ExRedPill14/07/19 10:35 AM
2

A cold, transactional relationship' made me recoil. Luckily the transactionality of relationships is usually not a concious thing, its fine to be aware of some of the dynamics going on, just dont think too much about it. A large part of it is also compatibility and not a pure value calculation which alot of TRP likes to pretend, some people just click when there is initial attraction, others have initial attraction but will never click, others would have clicked if there was attraction.
/r/ExRedPill14/07/19 09:46 AM
2

I think the power imbalance is very hot when dating significantly younger girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 11:45 AM
12

It tries to present a false choice.
/r/ExRedPill13/07/19 11:02 AM
2

How can you not like Jesus? I mean I am a life long atheist and I dont want to be like Jesus exactly, tho I share his view on bankers, hypocrites and judgemental pricks, and to some degree forgiveness, redemption and second chances. ​ If someone wants to have a fictional character as a rolemodel they can do way worse than Jesus Christ.
/r/ExRedPill13/07/19 10:50 AM
1

I dont know what this sub was designed for, so far it seems like a mixed bag. I am not a fan of the TRP sub either tho, it was a bit more healthy 5-6yrs ago but looks like it has gone into an edginess death spiral.
/r/ExRedPill13/07/19 10:27 AM
1

I think my life experience has made me somewhat "red pill" and that me lifting weights and having a healthy testosterone level makes me act in a somewhat "red pill" way in many situations, and I certainly thinks its important that guys are conciously aware of how men and women are different and how they can be more attractive to women, especially if they have previously been misled on how these things work. I am just not down with the negativity and focus on pointless theorising in TRP like spac…
/r/ExRedPill13/07/19 10:25 AM
3

I dont think there are that many ex-pill regulars here, I think the spillover from IncelTears and NiceGuys is probably bigger than population of actual ex-pill guys. There seems to be some questioning people passing thru tho.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/19 02:59 PM
2

unless the guy has something else that makes him stand out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 12:17 PM
-3

Not mine either, I think she is operating a bit on a cliche level, if you check her comment history it will make sense, looks a bit like the female equivalent of a red piller.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/19 12:01 PM
3

I have seen that Coach Red Pill guy on a stream once, he strikes me as disingenious, I get a conman vibe from him, I am usually a pretty good judge of character. My only real window into the RP world is following Rian Stone and BlackLabelLogic on twitter tho. ​ Imo stop watching so much youtube content, especially of the MGTOW variety, its a dark hole, hit the gym more instead.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/19 11:54 AM
3

I dont really know what to think of this sub yet, there seems to be many people here who have very little sympathy for men, and I wonder what their motives for being here is. This is definately not a male space, tho maybe some guys who stumble in here will find something useful, I find that keeping it real gets ALOT of downvotes, tho also often upvotes enough to outweigh it.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/19 11:43 AM
2

Once a guy gets alot of sexual experience and has other romantic options and maybe even a girlfriend it gets alot easier, for younger guys who lack that its obviously hard.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/19 11:08 AM
1

I dont think its "most" either, I dont think you understand men very well honestly.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/19 11:04 AM
2

Same here, I think guys are actually really good at supporting each other as friends.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/19 11:01 AM
1

It can definately be hard, I think what is most important is that guys drop the delusion that friendship is related to attraction, and that it is a viable path to romance. If they are attracted to a girl they must be upfront about it(in actions primarily), and go for what they really want from the start, even at the risk of ruining the friendship, or it wont be a very good friendship anyway, I have seen way too many guys overinvesting in a girl and basically treating her like a girlfriend withou…
/r/ExRedPill12/07/19 10:56 AM
1

That guy obviously has some serious issues, I wonder how he got that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:21 AM
0

This is true, they also talk about how amazing a client was, or how sweet and nice he was. I have met pro's who dont have boyfriends because they get their rocks off on the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 09:19 PM
1

Its perfectly legal in most of Europe bruh, its perfectly legal in England and Australia. Its legal in Spain, Italy, Portugal, Germany, Denmark, Holland, Finland, Greece, Belgium, Poland, Romania, Hungary etc. In fact its only criminalized in a few European countries, like really legal, legal to sell and legal to buy, what part of legal dont you understand? Look it up on a map? Cops cant arrest you if you are not committing a crime. edit: Legal in Turkey too, that actually suprised me. edit: It …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 08:23 PM
1

No its not, its perfectly legal in large parts of the world, including most of Europe, almost all of central/south America and in England and Autralia, India, large parts of Asia etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 07:54 PM
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Women rarely date down, unless the guy has something else that makes him stand out or some serious future potential. Men dont mind dating down and often do, guys dont care about social status. ​ This should not be new information to anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 07:41 PM
1

In that extreme example maybe, mostly as a product of her enviroment tho, most quality guys dont really want to marry strippers either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 07:08 PM
2

My experience says otherwise. Also being a college educated professional woman does not make a woman more attractive to men in general, even tho alot of women like to project their criteria for attraction unto men. That being said a man marrying a women who makes as much money or more than he does can make sense, or atleast be less risky.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 06:44 PM
1

Makes sense, my parents got married after having their 2nd child, but it was more for mutual practical reasons I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 06:40 PM
4

It makes the woman less likely to stay, in some cases it gives a significant monetary incentive to leave IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 06:27 PM
1

I am pretty sure she does not regret her choice, if we want to get all cynical and transactional again it was a pretty good deal for her, also being able to be a full time mother for more than half a decade is a luxury most dont get. She is also still a part of my life, she is the mother of my child. ​ edit: You assume that if we had married it would have been til death do us part? What if she had decided to leave me? Do you just think its wrong because she did not become a millionaire?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 06:08 PM
1

Sure she does, she wanted to have a child with me, she knows that her child will have a good father with alot of resources, I can walk away from her(and I partly did) but not from our child, that child will have better opportunities in life than most. ​ She did not have to work,which is also a pretty big benefit? She chose to later. ​ You make it sound very cynical and transactional, and I guess for many people it is, they need to get some benefit besides a child they love with someone they want…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 05:59 PM
1

Because most women are given the right circumstances? I was very open about not believing in marriage, while being a committed partner. I cant get married sadly, too much to lose, finding a partner with a comparable level of wealth is not realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 05:12 PM
3

It works for guys who are able to take it with a grain of salt and know the value of moderation, and who actually put in the work instead of sitting in front of a screen several hours a day reading negative bullshit and thinking way too much about it. ​ For others it leads to self sabotage, ruined friendships, lost opportunites for wonderful relationships, depression, hurting other people for no real gain, and a lifetime of kicking themselves over that period in their life when they were a horri…
/r/ExRedPill11/07/19 03:51 PM
-2

MarriedRedPill has 27k members tho. ​ If all guys do is read 'No more Mr. nice guy', hit the gym and stop doing everything she wants, and start building up their options for a possible exit I dont see the problem, certainly not if they still hope their partner will get the hint, and if they have already tried verbally communicating their feelings. ​ While the situation you outline with an impatient, selfish and unreasonable guy certainly happinds its definately not the majority of gender role re…
/r/ExRedPill11/07/19 03:37 PM
1

Yes, most of he world is pretty shit in one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 06:59 PM
3

Nah, this is mostly true in shitholes where prostitution is illegal, even then it mostly holds true for the lower tiers, I have done security for pro's in a country where its perfectly legal and many of them love their job and could imagine doing anything else, some are students, for some its a kink and something they do when they feel like it, very few are significantly more messed up than the average party girl, we are not talking about streetwalkers working for criminals here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 06:51 PM
2

Its just a shortcut, drop the slave morality and you will understand, alot of relationships are somewhat transactional anyway, even if people try to deny it, and its not uncommon for girls to genuinely fall in love with a "sugerdaddy", life is mostly shades of gray and ignorance is bliss.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 06:47 PM
5

That will never be the norm in the west, sure there are subversives and useful idiots trying to push something like that, but its really more about destabilization and burning down what currently exists with some delusion about building something better on the ashes. There will always be niche subcultures and people experimenting which is fine, the threat is the state taking the place of the father with money extrated by force from men to pay for womens children, not any wierd alternative lifest…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 06:40 PM
0

ditto
/r/ExRedPill10/07/19 02:32 PM
-1

I love women, I think you are a very confused person.
/r/ExRedPill10/07/19 01:22 PM
3

I came off a bit negative, that was not really my intention. I actually think you made some good points. Maybe I was a bit annoyed at how the guy got downvoted for stating the obvious.
/r/ExRedPill10/07/19 02:07 AM
-9

I am really happy about being single tho, I am fine with dating non-exclusively for now. ​ Please spare me the woo.
/r/ExRedPill10/07/19 01:48 AM
-3

​ Men and women face their own dating challenges but you're assuming just because women in your general area technically have more options must mean they face less challenges then you. Men and women have different needs, desires and standards, and should stop projecting on each other. Would you date an ugly woman? He would probably have fun sex with one. I understand that as someone who's had trouble, as a larger woman, getting dates. Thats just because you were unwilling to join a sex dating si…
/r/ExRedPill10/07/19 01:40 AM
1

He is right about sex, for evolutionary reasons men and women want different things tho. Its irellevant who coined the term incel, most women can get sex relatively easy by having low standards if thats what they want, the same is not true for men no matter how much they are willing to lower their standards. I am not saying that there are not valid and even valuable reasons for this, nor am I complaining, but lets not pretend that there is some kind of symmetry where there is not.
/r/ExRedPill10/07/19 01:18 AM
1

Karma is bs, hurting other people only hurts you if you care but do i anyway, if they retaliate in some way, or if others observing your actions care.
/r/ExRedPill10/07/19 12:34 AM
-1

Do you even lift tho?
/r/ExRedPill10/07/19 12:32 AM
4

I think you are putting the cart before the horse a bit, you obviously have some shit you need to figure out before any real success with women is realistic, alot of it mental. Most of what this guy said is actually good advice.
/r/ExRedPill10/07/19 12:30 AM
1

Hit the gym, sexyugly is a thing, I know a guy with bad acne scars who used to be my wingman when we did caveman game in clubs in the early 2k's, he got laid like a boss after he put on some muscles and got contacts, he gave zero fucks lol, he is married with 3 kids now.
/r/ExRedPill10/07/19 12:19 AM
2

I absolutely hate women and don't know what to do anymore First you need to stop hating women for being women, misogyny is bad game, women can smell that shit from a mile away, work on that mindset bruh. I got my first and until now only gf in university when I was 21 and all seemed fine at first. But when I dared to show the slightest weakness after 7 months, she left me for another guy. Oh, and also we never had sex which leads me to believe she was never even attracted to me in the first plac…
/r/ExRedPill09/07/19 11:55 PM
6

Makes me think about Nietzsche's slave morality vs master morality. I am not a believer in such dichotomies in general but some guys have way too much slave morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 03:33 PM
16

Pseudo-profound nonsense. ​ Learning from others very valuable, read books, take what is useful to you and discard the rest. ​ Pill metahors are cringe AF.
/r/ExRedPill09/07/19 12:56 PM
1

Me neither, but thanks <3
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 11:38 PM
1

Something like that :-) but guys are driven to greatness because it gets them laid, greatly benefitting society in the process, I think this is more common than anyone is willing to acknowledge, while other get stuck trying to put the wagon before the horse because their need overrides other impulses. ​ I became wealthy in large part because I knew it would be a great benefit with women, I would not be suprised if this explained a large part of the earnings gap between men and women, since wealt…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:38 PM
1

True, but men often do great things because it makes them attractive to women to do so. And honestly aside from when I was an idealistic youth the urge to do good just for the sake of it really only started to become a thing once I no longer struggled to get female affection, its like a hierachy of needs with self-actualization and creating things of lasting value at the top, and food/shelter/sex below it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:01 PM
1

The sugarbaby dynamic can be used kinda like a shortcut for fwb type relationships with girls that would normally be out of age range, I know guys who have done that, they are real girls with real feelings who enjoy great sex, and it can become a gray zone really fast, not going to go into the ethics of that tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 09:57 PM
0

Thirst can be the thing preventing them from getting that, better to just get over their ego and quench that thirst. ​ Also if you think its not possible to have a validational sexual experience with a pro I dont know what to tell you, they are just women you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 09:42 PM
1

Depends on context.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 09:31 PM
1

Whats in it for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 09:25 PM
0

Those are all great, I started to truly enjoy those things alot more once I had the part about girls figured out, luckily I got that squared away relatively early in life or it would have held me back, especially philosophy took on a whole new meaning. I can totally understand how guys get stuck on that primary thing and get less enjoyment from what can seem essentially like distractions in comparison, and in some cases are, some guys even escape into distraction to escape their primary need/des…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 09:19 PM
2

By focusing on tedious nonsense, they give the impression that the only "struggle" men face is not getting laid. If you are starving your primary concern is getting food and its hard to focus on anything else, if you have enough food its not something you really think about, lack of intimacy is similar, It is a primary drive just below food and shelter and the food/shelter struggle is mostly taken care of in modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 09:02 PM
3

"Be respectful" is horrible dating advice to give a man tho, "be genuine and unapologetic about your desires" is good advice. Obviously a guy needs to respect hard boundaries with women but I feel thats a different discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 08:23 PM
2

Because they are clueless, usually thru no fault of their own tho, how would they know any better?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 07:53 PM
1

That was really what made the change for me too, 3 months on gear made all the difference with Tinder, I did not go full shirtless tho, just a white tight sleeveless in the sun.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 07:21 PM
5

Its a buyers market and you are selling.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 07:15 PM
2

Disagree, this is only really true for women. I will say that most men probably can get some with a little work and luck, and lowering their standards, but some guys are really screwed by the guys who are slightly less unattractive than them significantly lowering their standards aswell. Banging fatties off a sex dating site was my thing for a few months, with return visits if she was fun, below average guys would not have any luck on such a site, because there was enough of us average or above …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 07:08 PM
2

They were looking for a male space and advice on girls and they ended up on TRP :(
/r/ExRedPill08/07/19 11:44 AM
1

'Models' is great imo, its one of the few books on the subject I would recommend to young guys, but I have not read anything else by Manson.
/r/ExRedPill08/07/19 11:22 AM
1

With the pickup/seduction guru's its all about the money, I think many of them cant really pick up girls themselves, they just talk a big game and get desperate guys to give them money. ​ On the TRP sub there is an element of misery loves company, I think only a small percentage of the guys there ever really put in the work.
/r/ExRedPill08/07/19 11:09 AM
1

I am all for guys getting in touch with their masculinity but that is just hilarious mess of pseudo-profound nonsense.
/r/ExRedPill07/07/19 01:02 PM
2

Here is the thing tho: 5-6yrs ago I would probably have been concidered pretty red pilled by the people who used that sub, today I would be concidered at best a "purple pilled beta cuck". I did not really change much the past 5yrs aside from learning some new skills and getting in better shape ;) ​ Edginess death spiral is a thing.
/r/ExRedPill07/07/19 12:58 PM
1

TRP also loved the book 'Models' by Mark Manson 5-6yrs ago and even had it on the sidebar, It is a really good book will actually teach clueless guys how to get real success with women, especially when combined with self improvement, But he is a "purple pill cuck" now so whatever :)
/r/ExRedPill07/07/19 12:32 PM
2

I discovered the pickup/seduction community a year or two before that stupid book, there were some guys who had approaches that were more based on directness and masculinity but the redpill as we know it today was not really there. The mantra was more "learn to love women", "women are cute and fun" and "negativity is bad game", and for some "leave her better than you found her" was a big deal, overall a very positive and helpful community. ​ It was actually a goldmine in many ways even if there …
/r/ExRedPill07/07/19 12:13 PM
1

Training a real combat sport gives many guys exactly what they need: physical confidence. I have seen it change lives. Its very good advice especially for the nerdy guys.
/r/ExRedPill07/07/19 11:39 AM
3

This is definately true for the TRP subreddit last I looked, guys sitting in front of their computers whining to each other about how women are horrible is pretty much the opposite of self-improvement, imagine if the average TRP user took just half of the time they spent on that sub and on lame MGTOW'esque videos and podcasts and used that time to go to the gym and to read things that have utility.
/r/ExRedPill06/07/19 07:28 PM
1

Girls get "friends with benefits zoned" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 06:59 PM
9

I have had sex with girls who were very feminist, after saying stuff like "I dont really think about politics" and "oh? I guess I am a feminist then" and just playing dumb until I could change the subject, even tho I am very much not a feminist aside from the equality under the law for individuals regardless of gender definition, does this count? I am into being very sexually dominant and found it extremely hot and would do it again, I kinda felt wierd afterwards tho, I am by no means an open bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 06:53 PM
3

has it ever fucking occurred to you that you can be masculine non needy with good social skills without picking up dark triad behaviors? I dont think reading 'How to make friends and influence people' and being aware of bodylanguage and microexpression and non-verbal communication(90+%) in general makes someone dark triad, neither does flirting or adopting attractive behavior patterns or shedding unattractive ones to have more success with girls, it takes about a month to permanently change a ha…
/r/ExRedPill06/07/19 05:52 PM
2

I used to be pretty shy, and I still am a little bit sometimes and thats fine, but it really changed when I started working out seriously, the hardest part for me was the shameless thing. I learned to really embrace flirting tho, I catch myself doing some light flirting with my 65yo neighbor sometimes lol, it was uncomfortable until it became natural for sure. It took me a many years to get over my resentment for those "assertive jerks", and I still dont like loud people, I keep it laid back usu…
/r/ExRedPill06/07/19 02:21 PM
4

Short term strategy is kinda different, its basically Tinder game and getting hookups, the girls want a fun masculine guy with no wierdness and you are giving them that. Maybe its different for me because it really is part of who I am(even tho it was not always), I dont feel like I am playing a role, its mostly just me flirting and goofing around having fun, I am like that in relationships too, not all the time obviously and its not all I am, I am not at all afraid to be genuine and vulnerable e…
/r/ExRedPill06/07/19 12:50 PM
0

I think he was one of those young guys who stewed in the negativity of the subreddit for months without ever reading 'No More Mr. Nice Guy' or hitting the gym. ​ In reality guys dont need the cesspit that is the TRP subreddit, they need to cut down on their online time, hit the gym, train jujitsu or thaiboxing for 6 months to a year and read a handful of books, none of them written by Rollo Tomassi, and their lives will be forever changed for the better.
/r/ExRedPill06/07/19 10:48 AM
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this guy is literally a fucking PUA who is the one who first mentioned the whole "dark triad is a good short term sexual strategy" He is not wrong, it definately can be, but its a better strategy to just be unapologetically masculine, non-needy, a little shameless and aware of bodylanguage and how to control microexpressions thru mindset, you dont have to change your entire personality or world view, just some behaviors. ​ edit: also hit the gym.
/r/ExRedPill06/07/19 10:35 AM
1

It was all social circle stuff at that time, did not start to really approach until many years later, the change in how girls I met reacted to me blew my mind tho, suddenly they were interested in who I was, and I was basically the same guy on the inside, obviously my bodylanguage would have changed and I had gone from from slighly fat to somewhat muscular in a few months. This was in my mid to late teen years, I was still clueless and was in no way concious about my game.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 01:24 PM
2

For some very rare couples it can, for 99% its a recipy for disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 10:44 AM
3

Thats just partner swapping and swinging, that is a very different dynamic than poly or open relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 10:42 AM
2

Dont worry, it wont lol, maybe in some far future where sex and procreation is entirely disconnected, but not this century. Swinging may become really common tho, thats more likely imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 12:23 AM
1

Out in the real world they are mostly shamed by other women tho, because it devalues what other women have when a woman just gives it away, same reason that its mostly women who feel strongly about prostitution and want it to be illegal, sluts are a threat to their relationships, I have never seen a guy attack a woman for being a slut, I have on multible occasions seen women physically attack women who were known to be sluts for simply talking to their boyfriends. ​ Sluts are not a threat to men…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 12:06 AM
1

Most that you and everyone else would percieve as truly religious then, if you could read minds and then took a walk thru a convent full of nuns your head would probably explode.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 11:48 PM
1

Nah they are just as likely to be total freaks masturbating to the thought of things that would make Nancy Friday spin in her grave, and then praying for forgiveness afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 11:39 PM
1

I was making a joke ;) But from my experience there is some truth in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 11:18 PM
1

Yeah but most lesbians are bi, most gays are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 11:03 PM
2

Very few guys would actually be able to openly have a harem like that, thats a 1% thing and some girls would not tolerate that no matter how alpha he was. Girls are still sharing tho, the guy they swiped right on Tinder very likely also had other girls swipe right and the guy with options is going to take advantage of those options if he is on an app like Tinder, and its true on less hookup focused dating sites aswell, thats just the way it is. Relationships are very different tho and most girls…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 10:48 PM
3

Good for you, if I had to guess I would say more than half the girls I sleep with have hopes of a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship, some come around after they realise thats probably not going to happind, one thing I will never do is lie if asked tho, I suck at lying and it makes me feel like shit when I lie, If it starts to get a little too serious I will pull the breaks and just say I am not ready for a serious relationship, but it can take a long time before the subject is really brought up,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 10:16 PM
1

Honestly, when I was a nerdy and slightly shy guy(in a different life) I did not have a fraction as many slightly shy nerdy girls interested in me as I did when I started working out and dropped alot of my nerdy hobbies for more physical ones, me being a nerdy bookish cerebral kid was great but it was not what made nerdy bookish girls want me as a boyfriend. This is anecdotal AF obviously but it seemed to me that my quirky personality was suddenly fascinating and interesting to girls after I bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 09:49 PM
3

Women really dont like to be told they are sharing tho, on some level they must kind of know that they are, but if I was an open book and made a point out of actually verbalizing that I am dating multible girls non-exclusively I would be having alot less sex I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 09:29 PM
5

Yeah alot of those too, seems to actually be a a real split and alot of bitterness between those who view the red pill as amoral praxeology and a purely individual thing and the "god pill"/"save society from degeneracy" crowd atm, tradcon subversion and politicisation was inevitable I guess, it actually looks alot like the politicisation of cultural spaces and predominately male spaces by a different brand of obnoxious gender focused ideologues that we have been seeing alot of in the past half d…
/r/ExRedPill04/07/19 08:07 PM
6

Maybe, I think group #1 is definately the biggest part of MGTOW, makes me sad when I encounter young guys with limited life experience identifying as MGTOW, I would rather have them try their luck with TRP honestly, especially if they were willing to put in the work instead of spending their time on forums that are emotional black holes, If TRP was just: Hit the gym and read 'No more Mr. nice guy', 'Book of Pook' and 'Models' I would not have a problem with it, but I have met young guys who have…
/r/ExRedPill04/07/19 02:24 PM
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I think there are three main groups of guys attracted to TRP. ​ 1)Guys who were seriously hurt, cheated on, divorce raped, emotionally manipulated etc. and who are harboring alot of anger and resentment towards women. ​ 2)Guys who are sexually frustrated because of cluelessness, often because they tried just being genuine nice guys as a mating strategy because they were under illusion that being liked and being attractive is directly related(this is not their fault really, its a cultural issue) …
/r/ExRedPill04/07/19 11:19 AM
1

If you are against hookups then dont have them, but dont assume other people have the same needs and desires as you, and some of us really like blowjobs. ​ You assume that because I am capable of being flirty, cocky, sexually aggressive and utterly shameless(and have fun doing it) that I am incapable of not being that, you are also clueless if you think most girls dont respond well to that kind of thing under the right circumstances and with the right guy, or if you think that it cant be the sta…
/r/ExRedPill04/07/19 12:00 AM
1

red pill preaches the more arrogant and cocky the better. i dont have to explain why this is misleading. All things in moderation imo, extreme cockiness also backfires unless a guy is really attractive and somewhat physically imposing which most guys are not, or if he is pretending and its not really who he is. In relationships most emotionally healthy girls will get fed up with that shit pretty fast. not sure what you are arguing here. That having a useful mindset is better than having a limiti…
/r/ExRedPill03/07/19 08:15 PM
1

fundamental belief of mine is that women have no sex drive at all. They are just thoroughly uninterested in engaging in sexual intercourse. They are, however, just as capable of feeling romantic attraction, which understandably leads to them pretending to enjoy sex. Totally clueless, women are absolute freaks, way worse than men. You just have no idea because you dont know how to turn women on, and they dont talk to guys about it.
/r/ExRedPill03/07/19 02:10 PM
2

pure stupidity. theres no such thing as an abundance mindset. you either have options or you dont. its not a mentality thats just some retarded shit some of them say. and others of them will admit its not a mindset its a literal abundance. you cant "believe" that 100 other girls to fuck you if they dont. ​ Disagree, mindset is somewhat of a choice, peoples confidence is losely tied to reality but most people have more confidence or less confidence than they should have "objectively", basically e…
/r/ExRedPill03/07/19 01:59 PM
1

Its pretty much reality tho, not that people should not have empathy for men obviously, just that no matter what people claim they usually dont, there really is a "gender empathy gap" lol. It would be fine if that changed(it probably wont) but guys need to deal with reality not wishful thinking if they want to build a good life for themselves.
/r/ExRedPill03/07/19 01:31 PM
2

Sorry you had to go thru that. ​ The problem here is: You = heartbroken and missing him. Redpill guy = ooops, dropped a plate, whatever. Hurt guys attracted to the red pill = sure beats "lets just be friends", nice guys finish last. ​ Your post it almost an advertisement for the red pill honestly, we wont reach guys by explaining how what they are doing hurts other peoples feelings, is morally wrong or is bad for society or whatever, when guys reach the point that they seek out the red pill they…
/r/ExRedPill03/07/19 01:24 PM
1

Seems we are actually on the same page on that atleast, we just have different needs, and a fundamentally different world view in some areas, which is fine. Also I am a guy and you are a girl(I assume) which also usually means we view some things differently, thats perfectly natural, I am mainly here to give advice to younger guys, but I dont deny that a female perspective can also sometimes be valuable to those guys.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/19 12:06 PM
2

I mainly use a national site with id verification (where catfishing is not an issue) and Tinder, I have noticed some likely catfish on Tinder that I just avoid but maybe its not as bad in my age range/area. I am a very different place in life then you so our experiences are probably somewhat different, what works for me is just to be very genuine, vulnerable and honest, not being an open book or anything but I dont play games other than flirting which I guess includes little push/pull if we want…
/r/ExRedPill27/06/19 09:22 AM
1

Nah you are not, who hurt you? edit: Do you think its wrong in general if people seek out pleasurable sexual companionship with attractive individuals they have no expectation of an equal life partnership with, or is it just wrong when men do it?
/r/ExRedPill27/06/19 08:41 AM
2

It was a different time in many ways, online dating is great tho, it kinda blew my mind when I became single and got into it, its a goldmine for a guy like me, I suspect it may be a bit tougher for the average 18yo.
/r/ExRedPill26/06/19 09:43 PM
1

That went a bit off the rails lol, you are not responding to me, you are responding to some strawman or projection imo. One thing I can address tho: You assume this is just about looking for an equal partner in life, when its also about looking for sex partners, these are two different things. Lets just agree to disagree for now, I have spent enough time in front of this screen for now.
/r/ExRedPill26/06/19 09:33 PM
2

There are people who try to be for sure, but attraction is not a choice. One of the reasons guys are driven to places like TRP is because they were misled into believing that there is symmetry where there is not, and then get (understandably)angry when they discover they were lied to, they then go looking for a new "truth" only to stumble into another lie.
/r/ExRedPill26/06/19 09:11 PM
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They need to re-invent and complicate things to sell books and courses, they also need it to not really work or they lose customers. ​ I was a part of the PU community when you were a toddler, it was just guys helping each other out on forums, it was very different back then and actually useful, its gone down hill ever since that stupid Neil Strauss book came out in 2005. ​ I think Mark Mansons book 'Models' is really good tho, its the only book on the subject I would recommend to young guys, I …
/r/ExRedPill26/06/19 08:18 PM
7

I kind of agree that "game" does not work, certainly not what con artists are trying to sell young guys these days. ​ Having game is a thing tho, and for most guys its primarily about unlearning bad habits and fixing ones bodylanguage, its really simple compared to what "PUA Gurus" try to sell desperate guys who are clueless(mostly thru no fault of their own, because it can be a bit counterintuitive and is not taught thru culture).
/r/ExRedPill26/06/19 08:01 PM
3

Leaving that dumb shit behind is a good first step, negativity in general and misogyny in particular is very unattractive, and unless you are a psychopath its impossible to hide. ​ At your age being a virgin really is no big deal, dont worry about it, its only if you let it hurt your confidence that its really a problem. If you get to an age where it starts to become wierd there are solutions to that, but dont worry about it now.
/r/ExRedPill26/06/19 07:52 PM
2

Not in reality no, its how it should work from an egalitarian standpoint, thats very different from what actually is tho.
/r/ExRedPill26/06/19 07:21 PM
0

Also hard pre-reqs for guys mostly.
/r/ExRedPill26/06/19 07:13 PM
1

This is usually the best idea.
/r/ExRedPill26/06/19 01:04 PM
2

What you are talking about is more a PUA thing, and often more a tool to get rid of social anxiety(basically exposure therapy) than a way to get laid, "Begging" a woman to do anything never works, its one of the main mistakes many guys make, they have to be willing to walk away or reject girls, guys also think they can change a girls mind about sleeping with them, they cant, they can change her mood tho. ​ If you can sleep with 5% of approaches you are Don Juan, most girls will be either unavail…
/r/ExRedPill26/06/19 12:39 PM
2

Congratulations on the weight loss and gains, much respect. ​ You dont have to expect it to last forever just because you have a girlfriend, you need practice, go get practice. ​ Serial monogamy is the norm, cheating is pretty common I think, I have been the other guy a few times and been cheated on once myself but I kinda know why, obviously fuck her that ****, but I did have a role in it, and it would not have happined today like it did then. ​ You care way too much, you need to enhance your c…
/r/ExRedPill26/06/19 01:19 AM
2

You should not be worried about these things as a highschooler, want to avoid trouble? Text her afterwards, dont be an asshole after sex, never kiss+tell, be the guy who never makes girls feel cheap or used. ​ edit: and dont stick your dick in crazy obviously.
/r/ExRedPill26/06/19 12:55 AM
2

The thing is, if someone is an out of shape, fat, neckbeard, who tries to find romance by being a friend to girls and is a totally clueless niceguy who puts women on a pedestal: Him taking the red pill prescription including him hitting the gym and losing 50 pounds over 6 months is probably going to be lifechanging. Just standing up for himself and being direct with women and unapologetic about his masculinity +hitting the gym for 6 months and losing 50 pounds would have a better effect tho, and…
/r/ExRedPill26/06/19 12:48 AM
2

I think that sub is absolute cancer, but I also realise what drives guys to it. My advice to you would be to drop that sub, and drop the mgtow vids, and use that time in the gym instead. If you are going to read some material read 'Models' by Mark Manson, it used to be on TRP sidebar years ago, but I guess they removed it because it actually got guys laid and was too positive.
/r/ExRedPill26/06/19 12:32 AM
2

Nice, you are probably well above average then, just by virtue of you not sitting on your ass playing videogames, you should definately try to get into a habit of thinking of yourself as above average. You should also lift heavy weights for an hour 3 times/week imho, I know its really cliche, but its cliche for a reason, just dont become too big, that wont help you. My saving graces when I was your age was playing bass guitar, doing martial arts and being somewhat muscular, if I had been a gamer…
/r/ExRedPill26/06/19 12:19 AM
1

Being genuine and non-needy works, if someone says he approaches 100 girls in a night he is full of bs, or he is the dancing clown everyone is laughing at.
/r/ExRedPill26/06/19 12:05 AM
1

If we are talking routine based game it mostly does not work, or you have to work so hard to make it a part of you that its a stupid detour and guys would have much more luck just hitting the gym and being direct instead of wasting their time learning dumb shit.
/r/ExRedPill26/06/19 12:01 AM
1

You will be at a disadvantage depending on how young you are, thats just life. Its can be okay when still going to school tho. Do you have any interesting hobbies?
/r/ExRedPill25/06/19 11:58 PM
1

Thats not how it works.
/r/ExRedPill25/06/19 11:54 PM
2

Thats like basic pre-requisites tho.
/r/ExRedPill25/06/19 11:53 PM
3

Game works fine, but game is not what you think it is, its not routines and tricks, those dont work. You can have game, just dont be playing a game, aside from when flirting, that can be a game. You can have a story that you love to tell, thats fine, but you need to be able to just be genuine and in the moment, you dont have to be an open book, you do have to be you tho, and not pretending to be someone you are not, pretending to be someone you are not only works if you are a psychopath. ​ You c…
/r/ExRedPill25/06/19 11:39 PM
1

Have you read 'Models' by Mark Manson? If not you really should.
/r/ExRedPill01/05/19 01:47 PM
9

Height is not that important when you are around the average, just be taller than her. Your lack of confidence about you height is a significantly bigger problem than your actual height. ​ The height thing among an entitled subset of women(who dont really know what they want but read Cosmo or some shit) is more a fashionable meme than the reality of desire. Dont take the bait.
/r/ExRedPill20/04/19 05:45 AM
6

Yeah, most commercial "pickup artists" are grifters, you cant really trick women with routines.
/r/ExRedPill18/04/19 12:22 AM
1

A Feminist sub about masculinity seems to be somewhat paradox to me. I have to agree, its not a useful framework for men, certainly not in this context.
/r/ExRedPill18/04/19 12:08 AM
1

Taking full personal responsibility for your path in life and your role in situations, not blaming others or making excuses(especially not to yourself). Ironically alot of people on TRP spend alot of energy blaming others, especially women. ​ For example: How a woman treats me is in large part my responsibility, Me being a man gives her confidence and freedom to be a woman, no one wants gender role reversal in a relationship, it leads to resentment really fast. Obviously showing vulnerability is…
/r/ExRedPill17/04/19 09:22 PM
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There are things that TRP recommends that can be very useful to guys, the sub itself is full of negativity and anger tho and hanging out there can only be detrimental, and it seems TRP the subreddit has only gotten worse compared to when when I initially encountered it. ​ Some things TRP gets right: Hit the gym, do martial arts. Its okay to put yourself first(yes for men too) Extreme ownership. Dont put women on a pedestal. Men and women are different. Read books like 'no more mr nice guys' and …
/r/ExRedPill17/04/19 08:37 PM
0

/r/MensLib is not useful, it has no utility. It exemplifies the mindset/worldview that makes confused and frustrated guys seek out things like TRP in the first place, its not really a male space imo, I would recommend /r/Stoicism in its place.
/r/ExRedPill17/04/19 08:07 PM
6

With the kind of person you seem to want to be right now you should go to to regular dating sites, not tinder. For a site like Tinder you need to go in there with a "Big dick attitude" imo, you can revisit Tinder later in your journey.
/r/ExRedPill17/04/19 02:27 AM
1

Mentality/mindset is also a choice to a degree, some people are better at it than others but it is something you can train yourself in doing, some will say "but isn't that fake" since you are essentially doing auto suggestion, but if a guys mindset initially is "no girl will ever love me/women are cold hearted" then a more useful mindset like "cute girl just dont know that they want me yet" will not be further from the truth, and mindset translates into behavior.
/r/ExRedPill17/04/19 02:17 AM
1

I would not exactly call it "blue pill", and when I ran across TRP for the first time a few years ago "Models" was in the sidebar just below "Book of Pook", Its a good book tho. If TRP was just telling guys to hit the gym and read Models and No more mr Nice guy I would be a big fan.
/r/ExRedPill17/04/19 02:01 AM
1

Are you lifting weight or doing some other kind of strenuous physical physical exercise? when I struggled with anger issues lifting and running was what kept me sane, its also a BIG deal in regards to not only being rejected less but also in being rejected softer. I was never been the best at reading other people, especially women, and I had to work hard to learn it, but I cant imagine how it must be for people with aspergers.
/r/ExRedPill16/04/19 04:12 AM
1

Just talking to women is definately the way to go and being nervous and goofy beats being fake 10 times out of 10, I think one of the problems is that people spend less time out in the world today and more time in front of the screen, scripts and routines lead to self-sabotage and bad experiences for young guys, I am sure many incels got some of their negative impression of women from bad pickup advice leading to negative experiences with women who were understandably creeped out. ​ Imo pickup c…
/r/ExRedPill16/04/19 02:50 AM
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Just because you realize that TRP is negative and most the guys there are stuck in a perpetual anger phase, it does not mean that you should throw all game out the window and go back to all your bad habits. ​ You win some, you lose some. ​ edit: I dont know your background and I have to go to bed soon, I got a long day tomorrow, but maybe I can give you a few pointers, I spent alot of time making dumb mistakes when I decided to get better with women 15yrs ago.
/r/ExRedPill15/04/19 02:35 AM
2

"The Mating Grounds" podcast seems really good too.
/r/ExRedPill15/04/19 02:25 AM
2

Nah, dont hate women for being women, its pointless, stupid and "bad game", its a path to unhappiness. Dont think about how women are, think about how women are with YOU, and take ownership of your role in it. ​ The girl I was talking about was just a hormone driven teenager at the time, she was of great value to my life and helped make me the man I am today, some of my fondest memories from my youth involves her, 20yrs later she still has a special place in my heart.
/r/ExRedPill15/04/19 02:13 AM
1

I was referring to friendships obviously, men dont reach out to strangers much either. ​ Men are pretty good at emotionally supporting their friends in my experience, they are not always that good at asking for help directly tho, which is why its important to reach out to a buddy when he is confused or in pain, men are pretty good at doing this, female friends of men could be better at it.
/r/ExRedPill14/04/19 07:45 PM
1

Its very rare I need my female friends for anything practical, they invite me to parties which is nice, but I never really need them, I like them and I think they are good company and I am grateful to have them in my life, I sometimes benefit from their opinion and some of them have been good emotional support when I needed someone to hold me, I can only speak for myself but I think this is a trend, I have a really good friend who helps me with programming stuff sometimes but she is an anomaly. …
/r/ExRedPill14/04/19 06:12 PM
2

I feel like as soon as I treat a girl as just a person that o don’t want to have sex with, they get bored, because it seems like they want me to desire them? I have experienced this, you are not wrong, I think its a validation thing, even if she does not want you she wants you to want her, probably because it feels good and is good for her confidence. You choosing to not be a part of that dynamic is fine tho and most of the time she is not even conciously aware of it so blame is pointless. ​ One…
/r/ExRedPill14/04/19 12:07 PM
12

I am very sympathetic to the guys who go looking for something like TRP or Pickup Artistry, its usually guys who are confused and in alot of pain, usually because they had already been on a misguided path because they bought into alot of pop-culture nonsense in regards to men/women and were understandably frustrated. ​ In my experience female friends will ask for favors and need help with things alot more than male friends, and are more likely to want to have long conversations that can sometime…
/r/ExRedPill14/04/19 10:25 AM
2

"Hit the gym" is a cliche for a reason but TRP can hardly take credit for that, it is actually really good advice that most guys today could benefit from, not least because of how it will change their mindset on a chemical level. ​ Just dont overdose on those red pills dude, you could end up ruining a good thing if it comes along, go have alot of sex if thats what you need, but if you want girls you like to stick around you need to be able to show a little vulnerability and be a real person that…
/r/ExRedPill12/04/19 05:23 PM
5

TRP is very "low resolution", it makes wide generalizations and exaggerates real tendencies to an absurd degree. My biggest problem with it is that it leads inexperienced guys to self-sabotage, yes you can improve your life by internalizing some red pill principles to a degree, but you really need to balance it with a healthy dose of "beta" if you want a happy life with a healthy relationship to women, even if you want to "spin plates". I am not against guys getting "game", in fact I think its a…
/r/ExRedPill12/04/19 02:45 PM
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When I first got into the pickup scene 15yrs ago it was mostly a supportive and positive male space, today it looks very different, back then we had a 'women are cute and fun' and 'try to leave her better than you found her' mindset. Flirting is a game, other peoples feelings are not, misogyny wont make anyone happy, and it usually wont get people laid either, its "bad game".
/r/ExRedPill10/04/19 07:45 PM
3

So basically she is saying that she is a prostitute?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/04/19 07:20 PM
2

Yes, just be taller than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:27 PM
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