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Paying for sex is one thing, but paying for commitment is... well... hard to describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 03:31 PM
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I [M50] have female friends, because they're too ugly, fat, or old to consider as sexual partners. They are sexually invisible. Many of them want more but would be really offended if I puked on them in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 10:27 PM
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I never knew, but I think she resented sex from past sexual violence from her ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 10:14 AM
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I wasn't using her housing desperation because I didn't know about it. I met her for a normal date. It took awhile to catch on to her. Nice try at filling in the narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:19 AM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:35 AM
1

Yeah I grew up in a Bible-thumping small town with seven Christian bookstores and one real bookstore so I still lack sexual street smarts in some ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:27 AM
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Because she's presumably not an autistic who understands basic social queues and situations. I dont think it needs to be said if a girl comes home and sleeps in a guy's bed that she should know the guy is hopeful to cum inside her. She's well aware she's using her beauty to play a fool. It didn't take three days before Ibtried to kiss her. That was just the last straw because I was testing her reaction after constant light rebuffs. When I saw the look of disgust on her face I knew it was time to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:59 PM
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I didn't say irrelevant, I said illustrative. The illustrations are just used to enhance understanding the point but their details are unimportant. The question is "when is put out or get out" okay? My personal experiences with that illustrate the question but the specific reasons girl #1 shut down or why girl #2 was justified or not is completely irrelevant to answering the overall question. Let's saw I fully answer all the questions with the examples, which I can't because of lack of informati…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:51 PM
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You're saying she was commendable because she didn't steal anything but still chose to parasite and that faking attraction and still not fucking makes her better? That's pretty far out there. I don't know what to say. I should point out that she was taking advantage of her looks. An ugly girl would have starved.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:43 PM
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Examples are used to illustrate, not to prove. Your argument is like saying an apple falling on my head proves the existence of black holes. The topic is black holes, but everyone obsesses over the silly apple.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:39 PM
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Naivity. She was only the third woman I had been with and her pussy was amazing, strongly clamping down on my entire shaft, unlike my first two who had weak vaggies. I was pussy whipped.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:34 PM
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Ok. I dont think there was really a relationship issue but I never got the story. I believe that she had a fundamental resentment towards sex that she swallowed to lure me into a relationship but she could only put off for so long before she shut down. If a woman who had feelings for was honest and expressed that she wants a sexual relationship with you, but that it will take a bit of time, but then demonstrates to you (not just says!) that this sort of relationship is also important to her and …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:28 PM
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Lol if she won't fuck me but she invites over multiple hot friends who will fuck me yeah I guess she's paying her way but damn who ever got such an amazing deal... But of course the second girl I described didn't do jack shit. In fact she expected pampering.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:15 PM
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I'm fairly certain the first one had a low single digit N count. The second one I have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:11 PM
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Ah ok
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:05 PM
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Great
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:04 PM
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I really didn't want to elaborate on the examples but readers got hung up on them so I was just trying to be accommodating. I'm concerned about the abstract question but Reddit tends to jump on irrelevant specific illustrations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:04 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:00 PM
1

Technically yes, it an ethical question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:00 PM
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Men have an obligation to stay in relationships but women can leave any time they want. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 10:59 PM
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But you can't expect your partner to give you sex whenever YOU WANT. I never claimed otherwise. When she completely shuts down for weeks on end it's a different situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 10:58 PM
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Glad it worked out. Usually these situations end badly but she had the self-awareness to see and correct her behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 10:56 PM
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Yeah, if the sex continued I would have stayed despite the red flags, at least for awhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 10:52 PM
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Women have standards, men have misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 03:44 PM
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I can't condone that but I see why you would do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 03:43 PM
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You didn’t ask her what the sex strike was for, as far as the comments I have read. Oh, I did ask. When I wrote I don't care it's because its ancient history now. The milk is spilled, no point in dwelling on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:51 PM
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Yes, I hadn't sèen it that way before but some other commenters made similar observations. I appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:48 PM
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What's with females and thinking their vagina can change a man's mind? Beta manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:47 PM
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That's not a right to sex. A right to sex means it's available unconditionally. The couple breaks up, but someone one party still coerces sex. "Sex or no relationship" is not a right to sex. Rights, obligations, expectations, and options are all different.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:45 PM
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Right on, although once those power plays start its really time to bail. Its all doomed then.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:36 PM
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Porn addiction? Where the hell did that come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:34 PM
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Forum comments are not statistical evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:48 PM
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Because it's not important. The examples are just to spur the discussion. The topic is the abstraction of the appropriateness of "put out or get out" in general, I'm not looking for a detailed analysis of my personal situation. I didnt need to include the examples, they're bonus material for understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:46 PM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:25 PM
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She withheld sex without a care for my feelings. It's not entitlement if I just leave. How silly. You're special casing sex as I described.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:00 PM
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Its not relevant to the real topic. I was just providing illustrating examples, not asking for psychotherapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:48 PM
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A lesser girl I probably would have booted sooner but she was an almost perfect 10. The hope of tasting her beauty made me lose my frame. I know, beta lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:44 PM
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You're on a roll. I'm entertained.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:41 PM
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He didn't literally say it to her. It was like locker room talk, a joke summary of what he was thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:36 PM
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Excellent
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:22 PM
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you don't have the right to any persons body. Did I ever claim otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:19 PM
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That's a thought worth dwelling on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:07 PM
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Yes, very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:06 PM
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Amazing what they'll create to claim victimhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:05 PM
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Wow, amazing. A man with sex depression is coercive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:57 AM
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That's a a good observation, the person withholding sex and claiming sexual coercion if the other party bails is really the sexually coercive party. I think some heads are about to explode.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:54 AM
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There was no accusation of infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:37 AM
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I once read something that said "Rise and shine, bitch. Time for you to pay the rent." God that cracked me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:36 AM
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I'm not contending that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:29 AM
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"You're not entiteled to sex!" I hear that argument often in this context. A few in this discussion have said it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:27 AM
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Yes, I was a chump. I thought she just needed a little time but she was just a parasite.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:23 AM
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You sound like a "he's raping me in his mind" kinda person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:22 AM
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Roll dice, pick 5. Turns 6. "Should have chosen better".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:21 AM
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My, aren't you a judgemental one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:19 AM
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I can't tell you what I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:19 AM
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This is a very impressive comment although I'm not following your reasoning on the category error. Perhaps you could expand on that logic. For the second example, I probably would have lost patience regardless unless she had an incredible reason for delay. I generally keep a three date rule because I start to feel friendzoned otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:14 AM
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I dont think "put out or get out" requires a "relationship" however I wanted her to be my gf. I wasn't intending to be charitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:03 AM
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LMAO Why do I have the feeling this human being only enters a romantic relationship to have sex? Because it's the pattern you want to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:01 AM
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Yes, no sex = friendship, except for rare cases like asexuality, emotional trauma, or vaginismus.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:00 AM
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And she is not entitled to a relationship if she refuses sex. You're special-casing sex when it's one of the general expectations of a relationship. No, I did not pay the second, but if she doesn't want sex then she's not interested in me and is only a parasite. She has no entitlement to my food and home.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 08:58 AM
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Good points all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 08:54 AM
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You brought up a good point about buckling. Yes, it's a messy situation without a good resolution. Resentful sex sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 08:53 AM
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Nice joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 08:51 AM
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For the first relationship, it did start with sex, some of the best I ever had in fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 08:50 AM
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That's great. Would you be angry if someone you liked refused to give you interest because of it? I assume you still feel attraction at some level.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 08:47 AM
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Not really. I dont think she even realized it, she just got resentful about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 08:45 AM
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You could, but it's generally not worth the bother, especially since the relationship was still young.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:39 AM
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I never knew
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:38 AM
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I started this debate because certain quarters special case sex and say that taking action because of a partner's refusal to have sex is sexual coercion. I've even seen it elevated to rape in some minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:18 AM
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Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:14 AM
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I mostly agree with you. I would never leave someone in an unsafe state. Physical/mental asexuality is a somewhat different category. I went without sex for eight months during my former wife's rough pregnancy and recovery and I was happy to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:51 AM
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Yes, yes, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:36 AM
3

I see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:33 AM
5

I think that's a good summary.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:32 AM
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Yes, to use as debate examples. I'm trying to spur discussion of a topic. It's not about me. A post where I raise a topic without any examples of my position would reduce quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:31 AM
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As I've written in other comments, she emotionally abused her son, would threaten to hurt herself after disagreements, started sugar baby behavior, would blame me for her own actions, and was just an emotional, irrational basket case. So yes, I call her crazy, she's the looniest woman I ever dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:08 AM
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All good, I appreciate your feedback.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:04 AM
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It was a long time ago, and I've long since stopped caring, but at the time, I wanted to know also. I never got a straight answer but I suspect she had a history of sexual abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:02 AM
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I supect first girl had unspoken sexual aversion possibly due to past sex abuse that she kept hidden. I never knew the story because she was a basket case. She would explain nothing, and got resentful when I tried to discuss our relationship. I don't know the second girl was homeless. I still dont know she was, she may just had uncomfortable housing. It seemed like an ordinary date. The first date was great at the beginning: a beautiful, physically fit girl wants to come home and "sleep" with me…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:00 AM
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I think I explained that in the OP, but perhaps not well enough. When I told her we would either commence normal, healthy sexual activity or I would leave, because it didnt seem we were in a relationship any more, she said I was being sexually coercive and our relationship shouldn't be about sex. Well, no. I bolted. As to her internal mental stare about why she shut down sexually, all I can say is that she's crazy. I suspect her ex husband may have been sexually violent towards her but I am not …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:44 AM
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For a shit test where the girl is trying to set the pace as you say, three months is way too late. The pace was set when we had sex on the third date. She tried to change the pace much later. That's not a shit test, it's just psycho.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:30 AM
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I see. I've explained this in other comments if you would care to look.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:27 AM
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Haha thanks for the encouragement bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:25 AM
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You're arguing from both sides of your mouth. At first you say early then you say three months.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:22 AM
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But it also means nothing can be resolved. If someone is just outright irrational, selfish, refuses to see the other side, has temper tantrums, etc. Its best just to cut losses and leave instead of trying to bail out a sinking ship with a bucket. I was at the end of my rope with her behavior. The sex strike nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:21 AM
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Well it happened three months into the relationship. We had a normal sexual relationship up until then, the best I ever had at that point in my life. If it started at the beginning I would agree with you. Had she tried it at the beginning I would never have dated her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:17 AM
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I've explained in other comments. Can you look so I dont retype it a fourth time? My thumb is getting repetitive stress injury.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:14 AM
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I explained it a few times in other comments. If you would be so kind as to look so I dont have to type it up again I would appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:13 AM
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You can't resolve issues with a crazy person. She emotionally abused her son, would threaten to hurt herself after disagreements, lied often, and started sugar baby behavior later. I was older, but romantically naive at the time because I only had two very long term relationships up to that time, so red flags were not obvious to me. I was just trying to be patient and love her, which was rough because the sex she initially freely gave was the best I ever had. I was somewhat pussy-whipped. Fortun…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:09 AM
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It wasn't a youth factor. We were both older. I know this sounds cliche, but she was just crazy. I was romantically naive at the time because I had only been in two decade-long relationships with two relatively stable women by that time so I missed all the red flags. She emotionally abused her son, would threaten to hurt herself after arguments, and started treating me like a sugar daddy. I just wasn't experienced with crazy at that point. Since then though, I've turned into a bit of a whore and…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:04 AM
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You're actually supporting my point in the first paragraph. All three can be withdrawn, and all three provide a valid reason to leave. In your first comment, you special cased sex, in this comment, you're equalizing it. Your second paragraph seems more about the rapidity of sexual activity, which is off-topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:58 PM
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Not really. It's two out of hundreds lol. But, your last two sentences are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:53 PM
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Can you point to any statistics showing how common it is? I mean, sometimes you might see a Tinder profile where a guy says he expects porn-star sex but that's hardly something to generalize from.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:51 PM
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It was way beyond a shit test.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:47 PM
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Why is sex special cased? Is one owed trust, commitment, etc. in a relationship too? Why not sex also?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:46 PM
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That gf was just a crazy emotional basket case. Nothing really happened, she was just nuts. She sometimes tried to hurt herself after disagreements. No sympathy for the homeless girl, if she wants to use her sexuality for monetary gain then she needs to go all the way. I'm not there for charity that she earns by her looks while an ugly girl would starve.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:44 PM
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Yes, you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:40 PM
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Debunked. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/experts-debunk-new-survey-claiming-watching-adult-videos-causes-ed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:26 AM
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I don't think it's a significant difference in this context. Slasher films are also done by real actors but there's no evidence they cause desentization to shocking violence. Human character, virtual character, it makes no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:34 PM
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Im extrapolating based on your vague claim of "exploitation". Perhaps you can be more specific: exactly what exploitation is taking place in Western porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:12 PM
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I'm talking about fantasy violence like video games, not real news programs that are not fanstasy. Porn is a fantasy and there's little evidence it causes desensitization. We've seen similar moral panics in the past, in the 50s it was rock music, in the 80s there was Dungeons and Dragons suicide, recently we've seen claims that certain media consumption causes effeminate men, the porn claim has been consistent for decades but remains another stupid moral panic by hysterical control freaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:18 PM
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I said media violence, like in video games. I'm not talking about crazed Trump supporters whipping themselves into a frenzy and attacking the Capitol. That a completely different and irrelevant category. It's not fantasy. And no, I don't watch porn. You're filling in gaps with what you want to believe. So yes, I'm trying to remain objective, unlike you who is filling in logic gaps with silliness and nonsense. And then you have men watching that shit, taking notes and acting it out on real women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:16 PM
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That might be true in poorer countries. It's almost certainly not true in modern economies. You seem to think that if a girl goes through the casting couch and doesn't get the part then she's been exploited. No one forced her to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:58 PM
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The desensitizing arguement is disingenuous. It's just like the same baseless claims that media violence desensitizes to real violence. It's just a fucking fantasy. Get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:55 PM
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No. The statement is either false or its true, since we're discussing absolutes: "anyone can leave at any time for any reason". I pointed out a counter-example in many peoples' POV.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:31 PM
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Of course it is. Either someone can leave 100% of the time or they can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:23 AM
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In this one, he met his girlfriend long after birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:31 AM
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Yeah yeah yeah whatever. Such stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:03 AM
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Silliness and nonsense. Nature only gave women about 40 years of reproductive life, the first 8 of which are off limits, and the last 20 of which carry increased risk of birth defects. Meanwhile, womens' fertility is engrained in their appearance: the more wrinkles and less age related skin tone, the less fit children are likely to be. Don't blame men for nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:03 AM
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Yes, but it goes to show that the statement "anyone can leave for any reason" is not universally accepted. It also argues against men taking responsibility for children that's not theirs in fear of a temporary arrangement involuntarily becoming permanent .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:52 AM
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It's somewhat subjective, but publication of The Game in Sept. 2005 was a seminal event in the PUA and redpill branches of the manosphere that carried over to the other branches. Modern incels can be traced to the love-shy forum in 2003. The MGTOW branch evolved later, I think around 2009. Would you like a history book?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:50 AM
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No. Manosphere doctrine has been consistent on 30 for the wall since the start of the movement. 40 has always been seen as geriatric and well into the cat lady phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:22 AM
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I don't remember now. It may have been r/relationship_advice now that I think of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:20 AM
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Funny you say its rude, but then women cheer on each other for ever more ridiculous standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:11 AM
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Women say all the time they won't fuck short men, men with small penises, men with low incomes, or men otherwise deemed LV. I'm not referring to saying it to someone specific unless the topic is raised. I once had a woman on a dating site ask why I wouldn't date her. I asked her if she was sure she wanted the answer and she said yes. I told her she's chubby and homely. She went ballistic. Women publicly proclaim standards, but when men do so they are called pigs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:07 AM
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I am not, don't take the analogy to far. A 20yo is a green apple in my book. But no, most 30yo women have hit the wall or they will soon. Some women can manage it through diet and exercise but most go all to hell by 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:58 AM
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It's also not the scenario I'm describing. I mean yeah, if a fat girl just gets hate for her profile photo then I understand. But if a guy proclaims he won't fuck fat girls in general he gets ripped. Meanwhile a woman demanding 6-6-6 is celebrated. Keep your standards, girl! Women have standards, men have misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:55 AM
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I remember a post a few months back when a guy was excoriated for ending a relationship where he had been supporting a woman and her son for eight years.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:50 AM
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Why buy apples past their expiration date? Green apples have a longer shelf life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:48 AM
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You're creating rules on the fly to weasel out. A standard is a standard. If you're to fat to be fuckable that's that. The bitch in that photo could dish it out but couldn't take it. Women insult short men on social media but they are above reproach.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:37 AM
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Bullshit. The moment a man on social media says a woman is too fat he gets excoriated. "How dare you judge women!" https://imgur.com/o6snO1v.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:31 AM
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Remember, women can have any standards they want, including height and penis size which men have zero control over, but god forbid a man have standards over something a woman can control with diet and exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:55 PM
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Get some pictures of them out together and anonymously send to corporate HR. They will be gone.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/21 06:17 AM
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Well... the next thing to learn is the problems of oneitus.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/21 05:40 AM
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A certain percentage of women will think you're a creep no matter what you do. There's nothing you can do about it. That said, she knows nothing about you, so her chances of screaming harassment/assault/whatever and attacking your reputation are vanishingly small. Just go for it by making eye contact (don't stare).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 10:21 AM
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That's exactly why. Every time these types try to rationalize it, it always goes back to "I personally, arbitrarily think its gross". Its EXACTLY like people who think gay marriage or interracial marriage is gross. Its personal bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:35 PM
1

Bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:31 PM
1

Compare: she's a slut/whore to he's a predator/abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:25 PM
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If you have status, you're taking advantage of power imbalance; if you have no status, you're a LVM unworthy of attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:24 PM
1

What repercussions?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:21 PM
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So if a guy says he's after sex, he's a creep, if he acts selfless, it annoys you. You find ways to be insulted either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:16 PM
1

If it were the husband grounding and cheating it could have ended in a similar fashion.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/09/21 07:23 PM
1

Look up Cupid Media. They have different apps for different countries and regions. Badoo also works well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 07:22 PM
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Uh... I just mean it's more someone in a position of authority getting their just comeuppance rather than a women getting away with something because of her gender. It could just as easily have happened to a father.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/09/21 09:31 AM
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I wish it existed
/r/PussyPassDenied09/09/21 09:27 AM
1

It depends on the app. I pay for one app and get high quality matches because it has fairly strict rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 09:14 AM
0

It does translate. By the time of the divorce the wife is ready for post-wall recycling.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 08:52 AM
33

I like this more as authority pass denied
/r/PussyPassDenied09/09/21 08:18 AM
1

I do leave, once the gold-digging behavior makes itself apparent. Usually it's not a problem because I don't spend money on women and the gold diggers filter themselves out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 02:53 AM
1

Sounds like you're on the right path then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 12:05 PM
1

Well selfish men say that because they can usually eke out a load regardless of circumstances and many are unaware that women can orgasm or of the clitoris. Of course, great sex for men is mostly physical. Although I've encountered skillful women before which adds to the experience, mens' sexual pleasure mostly comes down to physical attraction and vaginal strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 07:30 PM
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Yeah, I don't think women are as prone to that behavior. Because the female sexual response is so much more thorough than men's, with a skillful partner, women often get lost in sex, shut their eyes, and block everything out. Male orgasm is localized and doesn't consume the brain as much. We keep our eyes open and want a beautiful body to look at while multitasking sex. If out partners are unattractive we imagine someone else. If she's not enjoying srx though she may very well think of someone e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 07:17 PM
1

Did you use the Female Delusion Calculator to get that 10% figure?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 07:10 PM
1

I intended to rebut, but I'm not sure what you mean by "imagining other people". In any event, height is a visual cue and most women are vociferous about dating men significantly taller than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 07:06 PM
1

Most men are realistic about their market value but imagine a supermodel while drilling a fat-nasty. Those who are unrealistic count many incels in their ranks. Sometimes men do get lucky and bat above their league because they possess some random trait (such as comedic ability or ability to make women feel good about themselves) that endears them to a particular woman with higher SMV. The brain is a woman's primary sex organ so it can be random. Sorry to hear about your Mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 06:55 PM
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Your Dad probably has no market value for an upgrade, although some men do truly bond for life. Its rare and the woman are usually out of the man's league or possess some other outstanding qualities. See also https://igotstandardsbro.com/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 06:38 PM
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Yes, women can have financial standards... of course most women grossly overvalue themselves and by the time reality finally dawns on them (if it ever does) they're either too resentful to be marriageable or desperately grabbing any guy willing to look their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 06:23 PM
2

I'm not. Parenting is one thing, seeking someone with money is quite another.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 06:15 PM
0

Parenting is a different argument. But yeah, gold digging.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 06:07 PM
1

Age and race are different, but the spurious arguments you use to argue again age gaps apply to race as well. "Oh, what will family/friends/neighbors think? What can they have in common?" Yadda yadda yadda it's all nonsense. The infrequency of such attraction is not a valid argument against age gaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 06:04 PM
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I'm purple pill man. Here's how I split: 1) I am a sex positive feminist. I would fight to the death for equal rights and opportunity for women. I don't believe in traditional gender roles. 2) But on the flip side, romantically, I am very picky about womens' appearance. I have a three date rule, I've dumped women for not having sex enough (unless its short term health related), and I don't tolerate women mooching off me. I'm well into middle age and I routinely date women half my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 02:39 PM
3

https://witchwind.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/piv-is-always-rape-ok/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 02:31 PM
1

Normally, if your not interested in knowing how his cock would feel inside you after the first meeting then there will likely never be a connection. As a virgin the situation is different. You did say you were willing to give him a handjob. Maybe you should let him give you oral sex and see if you start feeling like you have a void inside you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:59 PM
1

I think that summarizes what I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:54 PM
4

She said in a comment that she doesn't feel connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:52 PM
2

Lol.. be traditional, don't gauge sexual compatbility, have kids after uninspired sex, get divorced, look for a bailout.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:51 PM
2

Ah, the veiled language of gold-digging.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:47 PM
1

Or he was looking for someone who demonstrated their attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:44 PM
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Having sex is ENTIRELY about seriousness. Serious girls have sex and DEMONSTRATE their attraction and are not sexually selfish. The foodies, friendzoners, game players, gold diggers, head cases, indecisives, and other associated parasites and riff-raff blow off sex to extract as much value as possible from a guy before tossing him away.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 11:18 AM
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Your reasoning is absurd. It's like opposing interracial marriage because the friend groups will be incompatible, the experience of black and white is so different, or the power balance between black and white is so different. For everything you write we can substitute race for age and your diatribe would be unbearably racist. Race discrimination, age discrimination, it makes no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:35 AM
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Yes, that's a hypocrisy somewhat, but what these men seek are reserved women who fall in love so quickly with them and readily have sex. It's more of a victory to quickly win the heart of a low N woman. Personally, it's not something I care about
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:27 AM
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Actually, fewer guys than you think. Why throw away something great? The problem is usually bland sex. There's been plenty of times I lost interest because weak pelvic floor muscles leave me feeling like I'm dipping in a pot of warm water lol. This is highly correlated with the girl's weight. Chubby girls have weak vaggies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:23 AM
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If she's that emotionally fragile she needs a therapist not a boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:19 AM
1

Hand jobs are foreplay.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:17 AM
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The OP wrote in a later comment she wasn't feeling enough connection. That overwhelms everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:17 AM
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It's that polarity difference of men tend to open after sex (but not always) and women tend to be more open to sex when there's connection. Which I didn't feel like I had, so it was a no. He made the right decision then. If you didn't feel a connection after multiple dates it's unlikely you ever will and he would only be wasting his time and money seeing you again. Connection almost never develops over time. That's mostly romance fiction material.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:15 AM
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He wanted to see if she was serious by having sex or if she was playing around and is sexually selfish. She didn't share that she's a virgin and needs TLC, so he made the rational choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:10 AM
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Stringing for free food or being in the friendzone is exactly what I would think. Women demonstrate their attraction via sex. There's really nothing else for a man to go on unless he's traditional (and will likely get taken advantage of on OLD).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:06 AM
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Normally after three dates and no sex I will assume the girl is not interested but virginity makes a huge difference. You need to share that with him. He will likely go much slower.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:00 AM
1

Molesting you is much different than approaching you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 01:09 PM
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Not at all. I didn't say anything about attraction and it's not really the issue. I'm repulsed by ugly, fat, or old women (UFOs). That doesn't mean they have no right to approach me. The problem is your entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 06:53 AM
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May I invite you to join the sea of Reddit, where you can find tons of examples of these women posting about there age gap relationships that sound almost exactly like something I could add here. This is really the crux of what you write. As an engineer you should be well versed in random sampling. Do you really think Reddit is a good source to generalize from?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 03:28 AM
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So this is another example of levels of people you have here. Maybe level isn't the right word, maybe it's more like classes or types? The point is- you have some people that are monogomous and relationship-driven. Those people belong with their kind. You have people who are not, and those folks belong with their kind if they would be so thoughtful as to stay in their lane for once. "You have people who are white. Those people belong with their own kind. You have people who are not white, and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 03:21 AM
1

Sorry you can't understand basic logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 02:11 AM
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I totally represent young women. No, you don't. You're merely rationalizing your bigotry and generalizing it to your demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 02:10 AM
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There is nothing wrong with promiscuity by itself. I disagree with slut shaming. > being promiscuous can be very unhealthy even to the point where if affects other people and society at large Utterly absurd, as long as protection is used. Condemning promiscuity originally started with male desire to 1) avoid cuckoldry 2) distributing females evenly among males and fight harem building and plural marriage where some men have no hope of sexual satisfaction So, humans, females moreso than males, ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 12:35 PM
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Ah, an FDS "qween". YOU don't represent young women. Now you're demonstrating your bigotry. "I don't want gays approaching me; gays should never approach men." "I don't want blacks approaching me; blacks should never approach whites." "I don't want atheists approaching me; atheists should never approach theists." "I don't want old me approaching me; old men should never approach young women." Get over yourself. If you're that bigoted stay home and wallow in your hate so nobody you disapprove of …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 12:04 PM
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> It's just much rarer than it is for older men to do this kind of thing. That's just because age and financial resources are correlated. > Are you honestly arguing with me right now that no woman has dripped out of school to have an old man's baby? Not at all, but that doesn't mean that such relationships should be discouraged. All relationships have various types of risks, that doesn't mean we should ban relationships. We don't discourage homosexuals (in recent history) because of their vastly…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:58 AM
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Bigotry does not imply oppressed group. Minorities can be bigoted towards majorities. do you think that this effect completely disappears as soon as someone hits the magic age of eighteen I suspect it typically happens earlier, between 15 and 17. 18 is conservative. That said, individuals mature at different rates and some may be vulnerable in some way at 18. However, there's no effective way to make that determination.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:36 AM
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Who is going to look after anyone when the planet is overpopulated, polluted, and hot? What will happen is resources will be redirected to geriatric care and the abled elderly will work with the disabled elderly. China screwed it up, but your logic is similar to saying that welfare can't work because of the mistake of creating hi-rise ghettos in 1970s America.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:24 AM
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Fuckboys are predatory. Wrong, unless they lie. Only difference is that an old man seeking an age gap might be fetishizing. There's nothing wrong with fetishes. As said in my post before, it's one thing for a fling. I don't believe in flings usually being healthy, but that's one thing. Ok For a BOYFRIEND, it's different. 35 year old men (or men from different life stages, whatever that age may be) "Life stages" aren't really a thing. will want to move around for their career, and bring along the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:19 AM
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That's a really vapid article. It's all "I feel this, I feel that". Almost all of the few statistics she presents refer to underage partners. She's merely a bigot rationalizing her bigotry. She is similar to someone expounding the terriblesness of homosexuality and pushing gay conversion therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:05 AM
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Relationships with huge age gaps (10-15+ years), especially ones where the younger party is actually very young, i.e. early 20s or younger are often very predatory because the older party has a shit ton more life experience, maturity, etc. which would instantly give them a massive upper hand over their partner I hear that often, but I've seen no basis for it. It sounds like bigotry more than rationality. A huge difference in standing usually plays a big role in how these relationships start, too…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 10:52 AM
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I think I agree with that. The situation you describe is borderline rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 08:28 AM
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If that's your boundary then you will have a difficult time on this sub and most of reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 08:26 AM
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"We must have sex more or I'm going elsewhere". "We must have more affection and date nights or I'm leaving". "Help around the house or get out of the house". These are all non-coercive. Sex is not a special case.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 08:24 AM
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It's not that black and white. Before breaking up its typical for compromise attempts and ultimatums to be made. It's not coercion. A woman may demand a man help out more with the kids or housework or threaten divorce. That's not coercive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:58 AM
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If the man is giving her the impression that he does want her for more than her body, then yes, it is predatory, That's true of any age of man. and it's generally the only reason a man would want to be with a woman so out of his age range in the first place. No, if I dated a 40yo, I'd much rather her have her 20yo brain. Men are attracted to youthfulness mentally and physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:52 AM
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"New, fresh pussy."" Pussy is a crude term not said in polite society. So when you say it to me, you are telling me that i'm not worth being polite to. Spare me. This is Reddit, that's typical talk. You're too easily offended. "fresh pussy." this is r/badwomensanatomy Not really. Male experience of vaginal feel is inversely proportional female age. My best sex experiences are always with women in their early 20s regardless of beauty. Younger womens' vaginas are stronger and grippier. Older women…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:47 AM
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Yes, it is. The power belongs with the person with more ability or reason to leave the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:12 AM
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You've never taken offense to a younger guy who set off your alarm bells? Almost every woman I know had complained about some guy hitting on them, even of similar age.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 05:49 AM
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"Homosexuality is bad", "Racial mixing is bad", "Women's rights are bad"... Can you eludicate actual reasons age gaps are bad besides your "creepy" response? Imaginary ideas like "power imbalance" or "life stages" are not real reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 05:45 AM
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You say no, just like a young man you're not attracted to. What is your point? The age is not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 05:42 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 05:40 AM
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Much of that article is correct. It errs on this: A partner might threaten to dump you: “People in relationships have sex. If we aren’t going to have sex, I think we should break up.” Refusing to have sex is an entirely valid reason to break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 05:39 AM
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Fuzzy thinking. "Mental closeness" is arbitrary and irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 05:34 AM
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How, specifically and exactly, are age gap relationships "predatory"? What, specifically and exactly, DOES it say about older men attracted to younger women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 05:32 AM
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Morality to you is the opposite of what you personally and arbitrarily decide is creepy. You're mentally similar to those who wish to ban homosexuality, miscegenation, and women's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 05:30 AM
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That's a different issue when you're a minor. Once you're 18, you just say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 05:28 AM
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"I'm grossed out by homosexuals; lets ban homosexual sex." I believe in racial purity; let's berate women who fuck black men" "I hate women; let's preach they should not vote, work, or leave the house without male escort."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 05:26 AM
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You demonstrate profound self-awareness with that statement. You're aware of the irrational I-don't-like-it-therefore-it-must-be-wrong instinct of the many mentally feral women posting here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 05:22 AM
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Well there's also the younger women getting hit on by older men. With them though, getting hit on by anyone they're not attracted to is usually offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 05:18 AM
1

I don't understand why many women take such offense to age gaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 05:17 AM
1

Actually, not so true. I get suicidally depressed when I go without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 05:15 AM
1

So what difference does the age gap make then. In your view, predatory at 20, predatory at 40, many men are predatory, so what difference does the age gap make?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 05:12 AM
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So in other words, you have no rational basis for your belief. "I don't like miscegenation so it must be harmful to society. Somehow". "Women's rights will be the downfall of civilization!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 05:09 AM
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State, specifically and exactly, HOW the age gap relationships were predatory. I've never seen a convincing argument that doesn't boil down to "I just don't like it."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 05:03 AM
1

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 04:57 AM
1

Perceived by you, on the basis of imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 04:55 AM
1

I'd follow the law and then eat popcorn as everything collapsed in flames.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 04:54 AM
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Semantics. Coerced consent isn't really consent, but it depends on the meaning of coercion. "Fuck me or I'll slash your throat" is coercion, "put out or get out" isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 04:53 AM
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People should be better educated about the risks of these kinds of relationships, it's never mentioned in relationship education and it's pretty normalised in society (at least where I am It's not mentioned because it's a figment of your imagination. It's like creationists whining that intelligent design is not taught in public school science classes. You are arbitrarily offended and rationalize your fantasy as fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 04:51 AM
0

A beautiful young woman with infinite choices whose attraction I earn has much more power over me than a disposable, interchangable hag.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 04:46 AM
1

Green apples have a longer shelf life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 04:42 AM
1

Looks WILL fade, but looks last longer when marrying a younger woman than an older woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 04:42 AM
0

Older men pursuing younger women has zero to do with gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 04:40 AM
2

Then they can say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 04:38 AM
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Sex is about attraction. What is your point? Young men think the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 04:37 AM
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In other words, more rationalization to object to what you merely find offensive that gas nothing to do with you. In any event, the same could be said of men a woman's own age, so what difference does it make?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 04:37 AM
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Its "creepy" for no other reason than you just don't like it on a gut level. You are irrational. "Oh, I find this "creepy"", therefore it must be wrong, immoral, or whatever term describes your latest arbitrary outrage. Its similar logic to a two centuries ago when whites thought blacks inferior and therefore enslaved them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 04:35 AM
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Correct, NOT predatory. "Predatory" means taking without giving without the consent of one side. Two consenting adults act on mutual attraction. Even if its purely physical, if they have consensual sex, it's not predatory on the man's part if he only wants the woman for her body. There is no such thing as predatory when consent exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 04:30 AM
2

The only ethical means of population reduction is reducing births below replacement level.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 05:34 AM
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We should be below replacement level, the world is overpopulated by humans. There would be no climate crisis if the population were only one billion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 04:27 AM
2

Just hope you don't get paralyzed instead...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 07:40 PM
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She can, but by then she seeks to settle down as she becomes cognizant of her expiring beauty. Young men will pump and dump her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 08:51 AM
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When discussing the wall we are usually talking about physically attractive women who target the most eligible men and treated men like crap. After 30, a physically attractive woman's ability to attract the most eligible men deteriorates but her standards don't. Meanwhile, the most eligible men in her typical age range find they can date younger women. She gradually realizes the tables have turned and now the men she treated as disposable are treating her as disposable. She could compensate by d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 01:55 PM
3

If men got pregnant, the majority of the world would be pro-choice even more. Men are far more pro-life than women because they suffer far fewer consequences.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/08/21 05:48 AM
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Conservative men are not more "masculine and chivalrous". They act like rubes because they are so insecure in their masculinity, always needing to prove themselves. Its pathetic really.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 07:50 PM
1

On what basis is older men dating younger women predatory?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 09:42 AM
3

17 years until eligible for lifetime parole.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/05/21 06:27 AM
0

Steady, reliable sex supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 04:07 PM
1

Which is an example of the cultural/ethnic bias the program describes. It's like a school demanding students not have tightly curly hair.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/04/21 07:14 AM
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Asians often use the chunking method of long division. There's usually many methods for solving math problems, even in basic arithmetic, and different cultures prefer different methods.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/04/21 07:11 AM
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No, you're getting your information from Fox News or other right-wing misinformation sources.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/04/21 01:26 AM
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You misrepresent the situation. Equitable math is about the problem solving process not the final answer, which remains either correct or incorrect. Different ethnic groups approach problem solving differently. When asking to show work, teachers will often mark wrong a valid problem solving method that is not commonly used by American whites. Answers are objective. Problem solving is not.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/04/21 11:37 PM
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Not a bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 06:22 AM
1

I actually didn't argue in favor of men chasing teenage minors. You're having an emotional reaction. Yes, you're right about the gut reaction. It's similar to how men have gut reactions to obese women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 10:20 AM
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Those countdown clocks refer to when the girls will become adults. Those girls make themselves public figures and use their appearance to get rich. I agree with your second paragraph but it's not age-related.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 04:57 AM
0

Yes, but talking about when they're adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 03:00 AM
0

They're sexualizing what they will be when they're adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 01:19 AM
0

So state specifically and exactly why its creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 12:51 AM
0

Sure, cat lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 11:12 PM
1

Well, that statement was intended to be from the POV of the approacher: disposability decreases with the SMV of the approached. Rejection from a 5 is like, oh well, they grow like weeds. Rejection from a 10 is a few-times-in-a-lifetime opportunity taken conservatively because you don't want to screw it up. Single older women are abundant and have little to offer. They get approached a lot for sex because no one cares. They find it incredibly difficult to find partners though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 11:04 PM
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You will probably find it's ephemeral. Older women get attention because because they are not taken seriously. The lower the SMV, the easier the approach. Older women are easy pump and dumps, but a relationship with a HVM becomes increasingly elusive with similarly aged guys. The attention you receive is not the attention you crave. If that builds your ego against your declining SMV, by all means buy into it. Classic blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 10:41 PM
1

You're in denial
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 10:20 PM
1

No, men want younger women because they're hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 10:18 PM
-1

Why does it creep you out?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 10:17 PM
3

She may want to approach it "friends first". Each additional meeting without sex means sex is less likely to occur at the next meeting. Your time is valuable, consider if your time with her will be wasted if you never escape the friendzone.
/r/seduction24/03/21 04:43 PM
4

You're saying "most of the time... " and other vague generalizations with no evidence to back yourself up. You create the fiction you desire. Can you point to random, scientific samples to support your conclusions or is this just asspull?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 03:03 PM
1

If you mean "sexual intercourse" then not always. That said, the less sexual intercourse a couple has the weaker their link is. Even asexuals enter relationships (because of residual sexual desire) but their relationships tend not to be strong. Ultimately, all romantic love is sex. For most with a normal sex drive, ending sexual intercourse ends a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 12:02 AM
1

Women enter relationships without love all the time, for example gold diggers. Concerning your ovaries, you don't understand how this works. The hormones released by your ovaries are what causes you to love. Without those hormones driving sexual desire, even if not expressed through coitus, you lose all feeling of love. Love is fundamentally hormone chemistry, not a mental process.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 11:47 PM
1

I'm not talking about relationships, I'm talking about love. The two are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 11:43 PM
0

If your ovaries are removed you would no longer care about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 11:39 PM
2

You live in fantasy land. Sex is the bond. Have your gonads removed and see how long your "bond" lasts. The Bible and Disney movies are fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 11:36 PM
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Vaginismus is a known gynecological condition. Denying it is like denying evolution or climate change. You're a layman arguing against consensus expert opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 10:43 PM
1

Yes, sex and love are intertwined. Folks get silly notions of love from religious tracts and Disney fairy tales. No sex, no love. It's usually that simple, although minor exceptions exist for illness and rare situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 10:30 PM
1

There is no alternative
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 10:27 PM
1

If she insisted on only having unprotected sex with someone she is exclusive with then what's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 10:24 PM
6

Without sex, the bond is broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 10:22 PM
1

It's all about sex in the end. If women have their ovaries removed, not only do they lose interest in sex, they lose interest in men altogether. Love IS sex, wether we admit it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 10:21 PM
1

It's a common mistake among young women, particularly virgins, to think their male "friends" have no ulterior motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 02:39 AM
2

That's exactly my point. You have all these wannabes orbiting you but it's unlikely you will ever grant sex to them. The man you really want will not have the patience for the friendzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 02:29 AM
3

33: why bother asking lol
/r/seduction22/03/21 02:27 AM
2

I think I'm very attractive but guys jus haven't been approaching me like they used to before my relationship A difference of 7 years: you are 33 now, 26 before your relationship. Welcome to the world of post-wall feminine existence. Unfortunately it only gets worse. Your real "shot" was in your early 20s prime. You blew it.
/r/seduction22/03/21 02:25 AM
2

My point is though that romance almost never develops from friendship. You see it in movies and fairy tales but if sexual attraction doesn't exist and is not acted upon at the start it almost never develops later. Once a friend, always a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 02:20 AM
4

Nope, no sex equals insufficient interest. Women will gleefully suck out free meals, entertainment, and emotional support from men who they have no attraction to. The longer things go on without sex the less likely sex will ever happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 01:00 AM
-1

You deceive yourself. Religion is a creation for men to control women and avoid cuckolditry. There is no romantic love without sex. If you have your ovaries removed, you lose interest in sex and men in general. The "sex vs. love" false dichotomy is among the greatest delusions of the human mind. One can have sex without love, but romantic love never exists without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 12:55 AM
1

Until you have sex for awhile you won't know if you're in love. You've suffered religious indoctrination.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 12:37 AM
2

STD and pregnancy risks are manageable. N-count is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 12:20 AM
3

He raped my grandmother...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 12:09 AM
2

Just a matter of time on the sex, you haven't met the guy who juices you yet. You're still parasitizing on your male friends desiring sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 12:08 AM
2

At least you acknowledge its neurotic, but it's not until after sex that two people learn how they feel about each other. Denying each other sex is like saying you will not laugh together. Its denying part of each other, the part that is most important.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 11:57 PM
2

And friends always
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 11:53 PM
2

One day you tell all your orbiters, "thanks for all the dinners, gifts, emotional support and entertainment! I met a great guy and his cock (which you tried on the first date) makes me cum over and over again! Wish us the best! You're such a great friend!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 11:46 PM
1

This. Women will drain their male "friends" dry emotionally as they orbit for sex then unleash devastation when they find a guy they're attracted to and have sex with him immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 11:41 PM
10

Casual dating without casual sex is in the friendzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 11:34 PM
5

Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 11:29 PM
1

Friends first is BS. Once a friend, always a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 11:28 PM
4

CC isn't bad per se its women leaving the CC that bothers men. Men perceive this in a few ways: 1) you're making me work for what other men got for free; 2) you're expecting me to support your progeny from riding the CC; 3) you had your CC fun in your prime, now you approach me in your post-wall decline to bait a man before you fully depreciate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 07:33 AM
1

Ah ok I see what you mean then.
/r/seduction16/03/21 02:34 PM
1

Finding a relationship is a numbers game. The more shots you take, the more likely you are to succeed. It sounds like you seek a man who wants a relationship but only half-heartedly trying.
/r/seduction16/03/21 02:13 PM
3

Why should it matter how many girls a guy tries to pick up like that?
/r/seduction16/03/21 02:03 PM
2

That's exactly what I am doing. I'm in Vietnam dating the most beautiful women on Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 11:56 PM
1

I have before. I could care less.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 10:10 PM
1

1) Sex is only more dangerous for women if precautions are not taken. 2) No, sex is mutual. 3) Regressive thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:36 AM
1

Hell no: 1) Sex is the primary way a woman demonstrates she's serious. Women love to play men in the friendzone. 2) I'm not going to invest time and energy just to find out we're sexually incompatible. It's easy to know that early. 3) There is no reason to wait. 4) How can I commit to someone holding back part if themselves? What is she hiding? 5) I don't want to be with someone who is sexually selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 01:28 AM
-1

The spark is when is when her pussy tingles at the thought of engulfing a man's cock.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 02:57 AM
8

Girls like guys who don't need to impress them. Dwell on it and gain wisdom, young padawan.
/r/seduction10/03/21 09:09 AM
1

That helps but hardly renders him immune to the creep factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 02:23 AM
7

"You don't care about books! You're only talking to me because you want to fuck me! Fuck off, creep!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:09 AM
200

Mothers get abused by men, encourage sons to be nice guys. Nice guy sons get abused by women and become red pilled. Red pilled men abuse future mothers. Endless cycle...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 10:20 AM
19

No it's mostly instinctual, readily demonstrated in other animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 10:18 AM
1

I'd take the $1m/mo and have my balls lopped off so I wouldn't care about sex anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 04:26 AM
1

Imperturbability. I'm hesitant to use him as an example, because he is said to be cold and emotionless, but he's really not. In the late 1960s Spokmania occurred: To Nimoy's surprise, Spock became a sex symbol; Isaac Asimov described the character as "a security blanket with sexual overtones", and Nimoy reported that "I've never had more female attention on a set before. And get this: they all want to touch the ears!" (When a young woman asked "Are you aware that you are the source of erotic dre…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 07:41 AM
2

Resolving reality misperception is arguably intellectual maturity not emotional maturity. An idealist could still be emotionally mature. This is an orthogonal issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 04:04 PM
3

I'm not sure where that came from. It has nothing to do with people though. The principal is that emotional novelty causes emotional reaction. I think your worldview needs work. When you say "people ain't shit" you're going the wrong way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 03:56 PM
2

That's part of the problem. It requires good role models growing up or the wisdom that comes with age. I didn't really understand until in my 40s. I had no role models. But think of it this way: the first time you have your heart broken, you suffer a long time. The second time, less so. Each additional time it hurts less and less. Why? The novelty of the feeling wears off. 'Oh, another girl broke my heart, it's just the 5th time this year. It still hurts, but you become less reactive to it. Thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 03:31 PM
5

Like I wrote it's intricate. If you think of it superficially like that then you won't get a good answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:02 AM
58

Women don't want to see you emotionless. They want to see you can handle emotion maturely. There's a huge difference. It's a complex situation in your youth but gradually falls into place with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 01:03 AM
1

That's mostly because of the legal system. If the incomes are similar the male has little divorce risk. The McDs cashier could take him to the cleaners. A lesser reason is because the doctor will always doubt if his wife is in love with his money and not him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 11:01 PM
-2

Paying for a meal harms a man's financial fitness. Having sex doesn't harm a woman's sexual fitness. Having sex is a mutual undertaking. Buying a meal for another person is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 10:56 PM
5

She thought you don't like her because you didnt try to fuck her.
/r/seduction17/02/21 03:57 AM
6

7 years isn't much. 20-27... no big deal.
/r/seduction17/02/21 03:04 AM
0

Insecure much?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 06:21 AM
0

You're violating the TOS of those apps.
/r/seduction15/02/21 06:24 AM
2

Obese women, from what the person I replied to describes. In my experience she is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 09:14 PM
4

Appearance: necessary for sex, but not sufficient for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 03:54 PM
2

It's a farce. Women do that mostly for other women and professional appearance. Men still must wake up to her real appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 03:52 PM
3

Most men would never wife up either woman though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 03:51 PM
3

Almost any woman can get sex. Relationships are another matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 03:47 PM
2

Women have standards, men objectify. Appearance for sexual preference is not objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 03:44 PM
9

🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 03:40 PM
2

Sex drive and sexual initiative are different. Women have sex drives equal to me (if not culturally repressed) but is subtle and nuance compared to men's simple and direct sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 02:46 PM
1

Incels, Proud Boys, MGTOWs, MRAs, most women-hating, sexless men are huge Trump supporters. The voting bloc was easily enough to provide Trump his razor-thin lead in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania in 2016.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 02:42 PM
0

If my dating pool was only UFOs I would cut my balls off and be done with it. Technically MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 12:02 PM
4

Sexless young men elected Donald Trump. Testosterone will not be denied. Without the moderating influence of sex and love and the resultant oxytocin men turn to extremism and militancy. That's why China is terrified of their surplus men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 11:10 AM
5

The comment about gay men is quite telling. It reveals the writer wants to keep men in the friendzone and is just playing around. What a wasteful dead-end she is for dating purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 10:32 AM
2

FDSer: How dare you want to have sex with me! Dude: Would you prefer if I didn't want to have sex with you? FDSer: uhm , ah...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 10:30 AM
-1

Ultimately, sex is all a woman offers to the vast majority of non-geriatric men. A sexless woman is like a car with no engine for relationship purposes. What women like you ignore is that if your ovaries were removed you lose interest in men as well. It's all about sex for women too, just more nuanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 10:26 AM
1

Well, Rhonda you look so fine (look so fine) And I know it wouldn't take much time For you to help me Rhonda Help me get her out of my heart
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 04:39 AM
-1

No, it's because you don't understand critical thinking.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/21 03:27 AM
2

You're misinformed. The tuition for non-sectarian private schools is twice the expenditure of public schools. That's in addition to donations. There is no comparison. The students are not similar. Private school students have far greater talent and home resources. If private schools were forced to take all comers their costs would be astronomical compared to public schools. You continue ignoring the overwhelming impact of selectivity.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/21 03:26 AM
-7

I have no idea how your comment is relevant.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/21 03:14 AM
-1

You're using your experience in private schools to draw conclusions about public teacher's experiences. There is no comparison. You admit yourself you had an extra 60 days off. I dont see your basis of complaint. They get paid for 60 extra days, you got more free time to earn money elsewhere.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/21 01:24 AM
-1

Not at all. Low IQ and cognitive and emotional disabilities can be mitigated somewhat but when a public school student population's IQ is a little below 100 (not the 100 average because private schools siphon off superior students) they will never compete with a population of private school students well above average. Almost all superior outcomes of private school are due to selectivity. It's like the NFL All-Star team playing against an NFL team who didn't make the playoffs. Once the impact of…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/21 01:17 AM
3

185 days per year is the number of days students attend school. Teachers work about sixty days more because of in-service and required continuing education. You're lying about the low workload from grading and administration. Every hour of teaching generally requires an hour of preparation and follow-up.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/21 12:41 AM
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You get what you pay for. Finland only invites top graduates into teaching and everyone wants to teach because the pay is amazing and they are treated like rock stars. If you treat a profession like excrement and pay accordingly you get the worst labor force.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/21 12:34 AM
0

Well, no, the obvious reason private school students outperform public school students is because private schools can be selective. Public schools must accept all comers.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/21 12:31 AM
1

Afraid so, as far as reason to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 05:51 AM
-14

Wow, just wow. I'm not into RP but this is the best dating advice I've ever seen.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/21 02:56 AM
1

The post is fiction though. She has basically disqualified herself from ever claiming date rape.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/01/21 01:08 PM
1

He was acquitted.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/01/21 09:40 AM
1

Well it also says that "Traditionally, the prosecutor wasn’t entitled to information about a defendant’s case. But in recent years, discovery has become more of a two-way street. Just as defendants can discover information from prosecutors, so too can prosecutors examine certain evidence in the hands of defendants." Yes, prosecutors can mold their accusation to fit the (defendant's) evidence, just as the defense can mold their defense to fit the prosecution's evidence. That's a good thing. Every…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/21 10:51 PM
2

That's hasn't been true for several decades. Nowadays defendants must submit to discovery just like the prosecution.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/21 04:16 PM
1

This might convince you, I'm not sure. https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/what-when-the-prosecution-must-disclose.html
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/21 03:11 PM
8

That's generally true of all evidence in all courts for both sides. Keeping evidence hidden to surprise the opposition so they cannot rebut effectively is not generally allowed. Evidence must be presented as exhibits. If there is a surprise, the court may adjourn so the opposition can analyze it or simply not allow it. Elliot was acquitted.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/21 02:46 PM
27

This can't be real. It's a troll. She just provided evidence to convict herself on a perjury charge.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/21 08:06 AM
23

Young Westerm women style their apartments with fantasy motifs. In the East its Hello Kitty.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/01/21 12:53 PM
3

It makes little difference, the preferences remain the same. Men may not want offspring either but still crave fit, young women with large breasts and attractive faces, which are proxy indicators for how healthy and attractive the offspring will be. Women may not want offspring or may be infertile but they still crave men with strong bodies, handsome faces, provider mindsets, lavish bank accounts, and power over other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 03:12 AM
2

More fundamentally, women are complicated because they seek a formula to mate with the male providing them the fittest offspring for their high reproductive investment. Since women only have a vague idea, they constantly refine that formula. Men are attracted to fertility in general because of low reproductive investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 01:46 AM
1

I replied to another comment incorrectly. Her pic is posted in that comment and she looks like a middle age transvestite on steroids.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/21 09:56 AM
5

🤮🤮🤮 OMG I can't unsee that. She wants a paid-for date? She should offer money just for right-swiping.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/21 08:31 AM
3

She looks like a chubby Angelina Jolie
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/01/21 07:05 PM
0

Apparently not much. Its similar to defending rape because the victim did not fight back.
/r/askTRP18/01/21 03:05 AM
0

Put it in an index mutual fund and forget you own it for thirty years.
/r/askTRP18/01/21 02:00 AM
1

The military allows basic only? When I signed in 1990 the minimum was 2 years.
/r/askTRP15/01/21 12:50 PM
4

Christianity sapped Rome's strength and caused the Dark Ages.
/r/askTRP10/01/21 06:24 AM
9

Women are more likely to contract most STDs because of mechanics. Its twice as easy for women to contract HIV.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/12/20 04:14 AM
1

Government must still provide fire, police, military, justice, and basic services to everyone. In any event, I it's not the child's fault.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/12/20 03:17 PM
1

Is McDonald's forced to serve every customer or is it their free choice to become a producer? Does the government have the same free choice as corporate parasites?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/12/20 01:12 PM
0

Where does McDonald's get its money? From customers. That doesn't mean its customers' money.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/12/20 01:46 AM
1

No, you're not. Government is 100% legally separate from you.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/12/20 10:45 PM
1

All sorts of misfortunes happen in life where parents can't feed children. Avoiding that risk means we stop reproducing. It's not your fault, but it's a government responsibility. Completely different.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/12/20 01:25 AM
-1

A system where some kids starve due to who they were born to is not fair.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/12/20 10:54 AM
1

Women get ego boosts from being in short supply on dating apps. However no matter how many men will fuck a 5, a long-term relationship is far more challenging than for a 10. 10s can walk down the street and find guys ready to marry. 5s get pumped-and-dumped.
/r/askTRP01/11/20 02:23 PM
5

Don't block, say you're still friends, but don't contact her. I've had regretful girlfriends come back years later wanting to smash. There's no point in reducing your options.
/r/askTRP29/10/20 06:43 AM
1

"Women gatekeep sex, men gatekeep relationships." Almost any woman can get sex with a guy way above her SMV. A long-term relationship with a guy significantly above her SMV is nearly impossible.
/r/askTRP28/10/20 10:48 AM
1

Women struggle to find relationships with similar SMV, men struggle to find sex with similar SMV.
/r/askTRP28/10/20 04:33 AM
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Because they won't date their SMV or below. Virtually any guy could have desperate 2s or 3s lined up outside their door. If you're a 5 but anything below 7 is off your radar then you'll be an incel.
/r/askTRP26/10/20 11:24 PM
6

Philippines is the same way as Vietnam. I took 5 vacations in Phils.The willing girls are even more abundant than in Vietnam but also chubbier and care less about appearance so more filtering is required.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/10/20 12:07 PM
6

Nope, all for free.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/10/20 11:55 AM
6

I'm 49 living in Vietnam and I plow 4 8+/10 girls per week in their 20s. This place is a sexual buffet for foreign men.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/10/20 11:16 AM
15

Religious organizations are exempt from some anti-discrimination laws.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/10/20 01:09 AM
0

Gay marriage affects straight marriage in no way whatsoever. Quit being silly.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/10/20 08:44 AM
2

Dating isn't fair between the genders but relationships are. Women gatekeep sex and appearance, men gatekeep relationships and resources. The process seems unfair to men because they have far less control in the beginning phases of relationship building or even finding a partner and because their resources are meager at the age women are at their most desirable. There's still approximately equal numbers of men and women, at least in the prime dating years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 10:53 PM
3

Here's another: if a woman has sex she's a slut, if she doesn't have sex she's a prude.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:53 AM
1

So what? Sex is the easiest thing to know about a person. Have sex, if they are lousy, dump them before becoming emotionally involved. If I have sex on the first date and it sucks I saved a huge amount of time and emotional involvement. There is no reason to "get to know" someone before sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 03:56 AM
1

Parents? WTF does meeting parents have to do with having sex? I would never introduce parents until we had a solid committed relationship. What difference does it make if 3 dates in one week then sex or 3 dates in 3 months then sex? It's total contact time that's significant, not the time between contact times.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 02:42 AM
1

female mice nor female humans are as turned on by men with vasectomies as they are for fertile men Can you cite that? I thought a vasectomy cannot be detected by sex partners. the more dicks she’s had the more chances any children won’t be his. Any dicks prior to 9 months ago will make no difference. women on the pill or with IUDs don’t get near as horny as those without, No, if it happens its because of hormonal interference although some women get even hornier on BC. Copper IUDs don't have adv…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 11:40 PM
1

3 months? No, 3 dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:57 PM
1

You are unaware of how your body works. The ovaries are responsible for almost all your estrogen and progesterone and half your testosterone. The combination of those hormones are what makes women crave sex. There is sometimes a rudimentary sex drive remaining but women who undergo oophorectomy are sexual shadows of their former selves. Humans who have their gonads removed before puberty never develop a sex drive at all. Sex is the most important factor in attraction no matter how much we indire…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:51 PM
1

Which is basically what I said but again sex outweighs all other factors. Remove your ovaries and you still seek friendships but your interest in romance vanishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 09:46 PM
1

It's also the one factor that if absent makes a relationship impossible. We ultimately have relationships because of sex. Remove your ovaries and you will abandon interest not only in sex but also desire for a relationship.So both assertions are simultaneously true: relationships boil down to sex but sex is not the only ingredient to a long-term successful relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 01:03 PM
2

True, but you you state has little relevance to my assertion. I did not state that sex is the only important factor. However, bad sex or no sex almost always prevents or ends a relationship. Sex is almost always necessary but not sufficient for a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 11:39 AM
2

Then that means that person hates relationships. All relationships come down to sex. ??? Therefore, the claimant hates relationships. Your logic escapes me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 02:17 AM
2

Sex is not a need. Show me a man died of lack of sex. That is not the definition of need. Nothing above the first rank of Maslow's hierarchy of needs is deadly with deprivation. In any event, sex-deprivation depression causes suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 11:40 PM
3

Figure out what’s wrong or participate in activities UNRELATED to sex. That is totally unrealistic. If you remove a person's gonads they lose interest in the opposite gender. It's all about sex in the end. When the sex stops so does the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 11:36 PM
6

The breakdown: 1) Prostitution is usually illegal 2) Transactional sex is not satisfying 3) Prostitutes are expensive 4) Increased STD risk 5) Stigma
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 11:32 PM
1

This attorney blog is as far as I will go with this. If you are unwilling to take the word of an expert we are done. I am NOT going to trace the exact statutes or decisions. In short, supporting a woman's children even without calling oneself the father can make one liable for child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 02:13 PM
1

Elaborate
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 01:47 PM
1

Don't blame me for what FDSers think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 01:26 PM
1

If you deny parentage by estoppel exists I have nothing more to add. I am not going to take the time for legal research to demonstrate something legal blogs will easily verify. I guess if an evolutionary biologist says evolution is true you will demand journal articles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 01:26 PM
1

It's a peculiarity of US law. If a man merely takes a fatherly role he can get slapped with child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 10:53 AM
1

I'm only explaining the reasons behind variables in a model of average value. There is no denying that poor, short men and fat, ugly women have lower market value. For men, motherhood is another factor. You can call it silly but it exists nevertheless. I was pointing out why men think that way as the commenter requested. Men have a primal insecurity about being tricked into raising another man's children just like women have a primal insecurity about being tricked into thinking a man is wealthie…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 09:00 AM
2

I’m sure most couples with kids still get time to do date nights. Date nights are fine but limiting contact to occasional date nights does not make a good relationship. An hour or two of attention most nights with a few rounds of sex is healthy. You conflate "competing" with jealousy. That's a typical female reaction. I wouldn't get jealous over the kids, I'd just replace the woman. Or better yet not start with her to begin with. a black and white approach doesn’t cut it for value. Yeah, I get i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 08:25 AM
3

"I consider myself attractive even with or because of a few extra pounds." Imagination is encouraged in children but you're 38 years old now. I guess it's that FDS "queen energy".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 08:08 AM
4

That's why men avoid a woman with children. Woman A has no children and we can spend romantic nights together. Woman B has children and must attend to them in the evenings, help with homework, get them ready for bed, and by the time that's over she has a headache or is too tired. Inevitably the man will be pulled into childcare duty for kids that aren't his. What does woman B offer over woman A? Woman A is far higher value by any measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 08:02 AM
1

The hot McDs chick maybe even hotter because she has time for you. The CEO works 14 hours a day and leaves for week-long business meetings.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/03/20 07:49 AM
1

Well a man prefers a woman who never had kids at all. Some reasons include 1) cuckoldry 2) children compete with the man for the woman's attention 3) if they have children, the existing children will compete for resources with the man's children 4) in modern US law moving in with a single mother or acting fatherly toward her children can create terrible child support criminal liability So yes, I would prefer a mother not get custody or abandon her children rather than dealing with children bagga…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 07:36 AM
0

Yes. These screeching, low-value harpies think they exude "queen energy" by being bitches and think men should pay for everything, even their multiple children, and present long lists of deal-breakers but offer little in return except a vagina attached to an old, fat, ugly body.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 07:25 AM
5

MGTOW and FDS are only superficially different. MGTOW claims independence from women but will compromise their principals for a high value woman. FDS claims they can be independent when high value men are not biting but as low value women they have no chance. MGTOW and FDS both crave companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:47 AM
21

Yes. PPD/FDS Women can reject any man for any reason but if a man rejects a woman for being ugly, fat, or old it's a terrible sin.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 10:12 PM
9

I get: permanent residency, anchor baby, financial support, housing, alimony, half your assets, and child support for 18 years You get: a few months of sex with a reluctant 7 I can see why women hate prostitutes. Far better value.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/20 04:38 AM
1

Not me. Sex indicates interest.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/20 11:45 AM
27

Then they say men who won't go with that shit "filter themselves out" LMAO
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/20 04:24 AM
-1

Your tits and vag are necessary but not sufficient for the long term. For the short term your tits and vag are necessary and sufficient. I feel less bad about them paying for drinks/dinner if all they want is sex. IOW you're a deep discount prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 01:13 AM
-5

Do you seriously challenge the notion that asexual women or women who can't have sex for various reasons possess value to men? Sure there are some men, mostly those in similar situations, who might accept celibate relationships but its very rare. A woman who cannot have sex is worthless to almost all men. In relationships a woman's vaggy matters more than all other factors in what she offers. An asexual 10 looks-wise is likely around a 3 dating-wise. Sure, she can garner initial interest by eith…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 01:04 AM
1

When I worked at a pizza joint in college a morbidly obese woman with three kids from three fathers asked me out in front of everyone at work. When I turned her down she tried to appeal her case. Needless to say, I wasn't happy, and I got teased for months.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 12:12 AM
1

I have no doubt about the results of those studies but I'm referring to innate sex drive, that is, the sex drive of women who do not feel culturally-driven guilt over sex and are sexually awakened; that is, they have been made proper love to, which most men can't provide; The average woman is hobbled sexually because of cultural indoctrination and inadequate partners. Womens' innate sex drive is higher than mens'. Measuring responses to pornography and the frequency that sex is thought about are…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 12:42 PM
0

Why is desiring sex disrespectful?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 02:39 AM
1

Almost any man can get pussy if he sets his bar low enough, in other words, pursues women with similar or lower SMV. The problem is masturbation and porn provides more pleasure and much less hassle than banging gross girls so below 5 is functionally equivalent to 0. <5 women are just invisible which renders <5 men sexless. I have no lack of a sex life but I work hard to attract quality women. If I settled for old fat-nasties they would line up outside my home.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 02:19 AM
2

The female libido pales in comparison to the male libido, no matter how you measure it. The female libido is higher than the male libido and is more complex. Men can orgasm with a resisting partner. Women need partners that are attentive and skilled to orgasm. Most men are neither and the woman is in a vulnerable situation during sex so women are choosy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 12:45 AM
0

Why shouldn't it be about wanting to fuck? If you had your ovaries removed you would not only lose your interest in sex you would lose your interest in men entirely. This notion of romantic love divorced from sex is complete bullshit, a societal fiction stemming from men's abhorrence to cuckolditry. You've been socially conditioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 12:24 AM
-2

My perspective may be different because I am hypersexual as well... hearing a girl talk about her great sex turns me on. I feel challenged to see where I can rank with her and excited that she might rank highly with me. Also because of the regular exercise their vaggies get they have great grip. The strongest, grippiest pussy I ever encountered was from a hypersexual girl.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/03/20 12:19 AM
6

You're fucked. Once you have sex that good nothing else will do. I had a similar experience 17 years ago, I still dream about it, and I've been with over 60 women. This girl's pussy gripped along my entire shaft and seemed to suck the cum out of me. I could even stay hard inside her after cumming. I must stop writing now, I need to jack off...
/r/askTRP07/03/20 08:37 AM
3

Assuming she's not divorced or widowed, its amazing how these gals discover chastity after the fact. Sorry babe, I will not pay the sex denial price for what another man did to you.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/03/20 03:41 AM
3

The problem is, women do that for women, not men, who don't care about fucking nails.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 08:29 AM
0

It's just like FDS: low-value women in denial. Fat-nasties think they can create demand by playing hard to get. Pintos priced like Porches. Childen imagine turning into the Hulk. Trump convinces himself we won the popular vote after subtracting nonexistent mass voting fraud and huge numbers at his inauguration.
/r/askTRP04/03/20 10:57 AM
9

This is similar to debating the enormous differences between cultures. Dispassionate space aliens however would see almost no differences in Earth cultures. What we argue and fuss about is really minor. In general, the same attributes are universally attractive, with importance differing between men and women: wealth intellect power beauty personality Personality however is not a straight continuum like the others (especially wealth). Tastes vary greatly. However, the differences in various "sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 03:53 AM
1

I posted under the weekend rules. That might be the difference.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/20 10:52 PM
1

I will approach a hot girl and she will give shit tests to which I will try and overcome. As I am doing so, a fat simp will come through with 'Hey Leave her alone, shes a girl' It sounds like you are making a scene somehow. Are you raising your voice?
/r/askTRP03/03/20 02:21 PM
2

no touching no kissing no sex nasty attitude, resentful offers nothing But, wants a "gentleman" (good man). Seems entirely relevant.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/20 09:19 AM
3

Nah it means she expects to be taken to expensive restaurants
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/20 09:13 AM
9

Or, she expects to be taken to nice restaurants but no sex.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/20 07:17 AM
1

It would be interesting to see a good survey on that. Both our experiences cannot be called random samples.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 04:40 AM
1

High n doesn't bother me. I don't think it bothers most men but the minority have big mouths so they seem like a majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 04:30 AM
1

Loss of sexual attraction almost always leads to relationship failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 02:43 AM
1

Often that's unfortunately the case, but when I don't know I would rather have fucked her than not fucked her before finding out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 01:45 AM
1

being good at sex takes practice. Which is an argument for putting out. Your first and second paragraphs seem to contradict.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 01:43 AM
1

No, I just know how to find quality receptive women, treat them well, and give them ecstatic sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 01:38 AM
1

We agree on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 01:23 AM
1

As a woman if you put out too fast: “she’s barely gotten to know me, how many other dudes has she slept with this fast? She’s not LTR material”. If you wait to get to know him first: “she doesn’t have sexual desire for me! She’s not LTR material”. That's an important point and I hate that about my gender. I agree with some RP thinking but that glaring hypocrisy ruins it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 12:35 AM
1

Get married, have sex the first time, its awful, get divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 12:30 AM
1

Gold diggers, sugarbabies, and escorts Yes, but their true nature is quickly revealed in contrast to the foodies and friendzoners who keep a guy dangling for months and wasting his time and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 12:30 AM
1

Can't. Women throw out hints of physical attraction to get monetary and emotional favors. Sex is a great filter for that crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 12:27 AM
1

Bull, and those that have been were not in relationships based on love
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 12:22 AM
1

Because mutual attraction is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 12:20 AM
1

Because women in general are not resentful and with weird ideas about sex like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 12:20 AM
1

Why pay for something easily obtained for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 12:18 AM
1

FDS exists for straight women still after men FDS exists for straight women still after money There, fixed it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 12:18 AM
1

men don’t expect much sexually from women they actually like. What planet are you from?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 12:16 AM
1

They were likely bad at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 12:16 AM
6

Traditional Vietnamese culture compounded by Vietnamese romance movies portraying a man and woman deciding to marry after a decade of friendship have these girls fucked up in the head.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/20 12:01 AM
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Yeah, if a man is willing to risk marrying a resentful asexual, no problems at all.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/03/20 11:44 PM
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Usually pump and dumps are because of bad sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 09:30 AM
3

Without a penis, or more accurately testicles, men lose interest in relationships. Think of eunuchs. The same happens to women who have their ovaries removed. I think it all comes down to sex for sincere relationships (not arranged, done for money, etc.). Without sex motivating the genders would not tolerate each other's bull.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:01 AM
0

I never get as close a shave with single blade. If I want a great shave I use an electric then finish off with my Gillette to extend its life. The single blade never works as well as the Gillette.
/r/MensRights29/02/20 08:38 PM
1

I suspect the end result would be the same regardless of finding redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 01:20 AM
2

Feminism, women's rights, etc. Those aren't bad concepts but they make women feel less dependent and choosier. In patriarchal countries like in Asia and Africa the women are less selective, in the worst cases willing to marry anyone who will support them and not abuse them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 01:18 AM
1

Darkness was the scenario proposed by the person I responded to. I agree with you, I don't like the dark either. I want to experience a woman's beauty as she orgasms.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/02/20 10:52 AM
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Sex is sex. Most women feel pretty similar in the dark. Relationships, on the other hand, are irreplaceable. Bzzzzt. In the dark maybe their facial beauty can't be appreciated but muscle tone, vaginal strength, breast size and firmness, and skin texture certainly can be.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/02/20 03:26 AM
2

Like most brain science we don't understand the biology in full but the effects of lead exposure are well documented. Read that link for an explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 10:10 AM
1

yes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 10:06 AM
1

Yes, look at the references for the relevant Wikipedia article : Lead-Crime Hypothesis
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 09:57 AM
2

Haha maybe you're right
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 09:54 AM
2

Argue that with the academics. I'm sure they considered it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 09:52 AM
1

Men are not stronger because they have male privilege, men are stronger because they lack female privilege. Men are stronger mostly because of male hormones. Males castrated before puberty do not develop masculine physiques.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 07:25 AM
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Vasectomy/pull out method is fine You're equating the most effective birth control with the least, almost ineffective, method.
/r/askTRP26/02/20 06:25 AM
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One of the best decisions I ever made. I can tell no difference sexually and I told the Filipina bitch that claims I impregnated her to fuck off.
/r/askTRP26/02/20 06:21 AM
5

In a few years it won't seem so funny. You never get your youth back. Use it or lose it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 04:22 AM
4

Attractive pre-wall women are usually naively in denial about losing their beauty. You're about 29 and if you're single reality will start hitting soon as the cellulite and wrinkles start popping out, assuming you haven't met the wall already or were always ugly or fat. The 5 stages of grief and loss are: 1. Denial and isolation; 2. Anger; 3. Bargaining; 4. Depression; 5. Acceptance. The 30s are a rough time for single women. Their dating pool is losing quality and they cover it up with career a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 03:28 AM
1

And I'm saying if you're doing your job right she never gets to the stage of requiring reminders to begin with. By that time the relationship is on life support. And it does make sense. Relationships are evolving entities. Partners must change with each other. You equate static as logical. women modify their needs along the way- So do men. know that needs and wants change over time. If it's reality then how can it not "make sense" or be "illogical"? I don't think you understand the meaning of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 03:07 AM
1

Because you need to provide variety, not just stability. Think of Maslow's Hierarchy of needs: a man can provide only the basic needs; yeah, he's boring. The physiological and safety needs are met in your scenario but where is the love, esteem, and self-actualization? You essentially want to "buy" a woman though meeting her material needs which most women can do themselves nowadays. What else do you bring to the table?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 02:45 AM
0

after 4 years of you doing the exact same thing her reality is different from her feelings You see the problem here?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 02:29 AM
2

This is basically one of many farming techniques: the more women in a man's life, the more likely one will be interested. It's a numbers game. It also takes a lot of effort and constantly being around women who aren't mutually attracted is rough for some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 02:18 AM
2

That's because most adult women lose their SMV or get married. The attractive single adult women still act that way. 30yo women don't act that way because they lost their gravity to younger, more attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 02:13 AM
2

This also demonstrates why above average men reject friendzoning or "going slow". Why waste money and time with girls playing around when an in-demand guy can be fucking serious girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 02:08 AM
1

What I mean is they can't mass execute enough to make a difference. A few thousand, yes. Tens of millions, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 01:58 AM
4

The child porn and terrorism must flow! ugh
/r/PussyPassDenied26/02/20 12:35 AM
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I think you got banned for being (I assume) a man in a women's-only safe space. Just ignore them and let the mud-mates wallow in their mud pit. They are far below average on the sexual market while thinking they are high value. They expect Porsche prices for Pintos. They are inconsequential and will die sad and lonely.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/02/20 12:28 AM
2

Difficult with 30 million excess males.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 11:22 PM
1

Importing foreign wives. I discussed this in another comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 11:21 PM
2

Legal prostitution won't work, the prostitutes would be taken from the supply of rare women and their rarity would price them out of reach of the poor men who need them most. Fatherhood, not temporarily satiating sexual urges, makes men settle down and suppress the fighting instinct. Soldiers and prostitutes have a long history together. Chinese men have resorted to kidnapping foreign women to marry, particularly from Vietnam. What China could do is make it easy for foreign women to migrate for …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 11:16 PM
3

They're not behind bars for their life though. Your thinking on this is way too simplistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 10:47 PM
1

Why do men have to be strong? What's wrong with men being weak? Women want weak men for other women to fuck but strong men for themselves to fuck. The problem for weak men is they fuck the less desirable women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 10:38 PM
3

That's absurd. Imprisonment produces, not prevents, criminal behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 10:31 PM
2

The issue with that is the competition never stops escalating. Eventually it will be impossible for any man to reach women’s ever increasing standards Yet the gender ratio has not changed, so unless women choose to stay single (or at least celibate) all their lives the competition has not changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 10:23 PM
2

I don't see how the dating market is any more competitive than 50 years ago. Its not like the gender ratio has changed like in China. OLD increases the efficiency of the market but not the competitiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 10:21 PM
5

It's nothing like China. Because of all the aborted girls a man must essentially fill out an application before even talking with a woman. If you don't have a lucrative, stable, white-collar job and own a home you have no chance. There's entire villages of lonely young men because the few young women left for the cities to let readily available high status men chase them. Its a serious concern because societies with surplus men become militant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 11:49 AM
3

bullying actually has value is social hierarchies. Citation needed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 11:21 AM
12

My Mom was a schoolteacher and she said there were usually just 3 men at any continuing education workshop. One would be married, one would be gay, and one would be mobbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 11:21 AM
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Eliminating lead from gasoline. Seriously, there is growing evidence that there was widespread low-level lead poisoning decades ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 11:18 AM
1

My sentiments also. When FDS supporters come out with their demands they just seem high maintenance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 09:52 AM
1

The best sex I ever get is from those with experience. The worst is virgins (I've had 4). The first time is usually painful so we can't do much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 07:55 AM
1

I've never allowed myself to be friendzoned or become a beta orbiter but I have been possessed by oneitis when in an environment of scarce or low quality women, such as when I lived in rural Appalachia and the few women around were mostly massive meth-addled hambeasts with three kids from three fathers yet thumping their Bibles. The few times I would meet even a slightly above average baggage-free girl I tended to get obsessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 04:55 AM
1

Yeah pretty much... it's a psychological defense mental flip from "he filtered me out" to "he filtered himself out". At least incels are honest about why they can't get dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 11:20 PM
0

Well I know the concept is totally unoriginal. I'm just asking for feedback about the wording.
/r/askTRP23/02/20 03:34 PM
1

thanks man :)
/r/askTRP23/02/20 03:32 PM
1

I completely agree. I usually try to convert the date into something else if I feel connection. I've also abandoned girls at the coffee shop for having fake, old, or altered photos or saying they won't have sex until marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 03:22 PM
2

I like the description of your complex personality and the admission of your faults. You sound like you have high-functioning antisocial personality disorder. Great post, love it.
/r/askTRP23/02/20 03:17 PM
2

I think of an alpha as either a Chad, rich man, powerful man, social genius, or some sort of leader. I think of bad boys as mentally unstable jerks who lie and cheat and maybe abuse women. Women are attracted to them temporarily because if their sons are bad boys they will impregnate many women thus the mother wins the reproductive race.
/r/askTRP23/02/20 02:48 PM
1

I googled the exact quote but "No results found".
/r/askTRP23/02/20 02:43 PM
2

Someone argued tbe quote is semantically equivalent to "alpha fux, beta bux". Would you consider yourself an "alpha"?
/r/askTRP23/02/20 02:33 PM
1

100% agree. That's another reason why FDS women build fictions of themselves as high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 02:05 PM
1

In Western countries yes but I live in Vietnam where most of the women don't drink alcohol anyway. It's considered un-ladylike.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 01:59 PM
1

Yes that is a famous quote but bad boys are not necessarily alphas and vice versa.
/r/askTRP23/02/20 01:55 PM
1

I've had girls turn me down for drinks because they assumed I am trying to get them drunk and rapeable. Some even got mad and blocked me. I've also had some say the context is too presumptive for someone they never met and want to screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 01:54 PM
1

Good if you met them, maybe not so good for OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 01:40 PM
1

Drinks or coffee, what difference does it make?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 01:38 PM
1

I think you're saying people wish to avoid caffeine at night. I hadn't thought of that, especially since I hate coffee but I get something else like cocoa instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 01:34 PM
1

I see little difference between meeting for coffee or meeting for drinks except coffee is cheaper, theres no cigarette smoke, its safer to drive home, and non-drinkers like myself don't have to order virgin drinks lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 01:19 PM
1

I've stayed at a coffee shop a couple hours if there is a connection. If we get along well it may transition into dinner, cinema, or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 01:15 PM
2

Well if you never did anything with women besides drink coffee would attest to your lack of dating experience and skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 01:14 PM
1

I assume you mean alcohol. You consider coffee childish?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 01:11 PM
1

The way you wrote it sounds like you've never done any other date besides meeting for coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 11:14 AM
1

I steer towards the cinema once physical attraction has been established and touching is comfortable. A few weeks ago I met a girl at a coffee shop then we went to the cinema that was almost empty. We sat in the back corner and I fingered the the entire time. I think she cummed 7 times. By the end of the movie there was pussy juice everywhere and she spent 20 minutes in the restroom drying herself and her panties out. Museums are far more expensive and time consuming than coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:24 AM
1

Good comment but I assume you mean first dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:16 AM
0

If you haven't met her yet you don't know if she's attracted. I've been on plenty of dates where the girl was merely testing waters after a breakup, she wants money, golddiggers, sugar babies, posted fake, altered, or cleverly taken pictures, refuses sex before marriage/relationship/amount of time/whatever, she's a headjob, looking for a coffee buddy, or I make her dealbreaker list for a divorce, parenthood, atheism, or teetotality. So glad I didn't spend mire time or money on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:14 AM
2

Yes. FDS expects their partners to invest heavily, misperceiving themselves as "high value females" only to treat their partners like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:07 AM
2

Modern, intersectional, sex-positive feminism is ok. 2nd wave feminism, radical feminism, and redpill feminism like FDS are mind destroying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 08:11 AM
1

That's how I think. I've also been on hundreds of coffee dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 04:38 AM
5

FDS women may be frugal with their own money. They want men to carry their load. I don’t have first date sex. I've had first dates that literally start in bed. Those are always the best lol. Two of my ex gfs started that way. Meet, fuck, boundaries lifted, no question of physical attraction, get to know each other. Its great!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 04:37 AM
4

Because they expect their new men to pay for the damage caused by their exes and bad decisions even though their market value is lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 03:04 AM
3

I’m not spending money on dinner for someone I hardly know and may never see again. Exactly, but in the FDS mindset that makes you a "low value male" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 02:54 AM
0

Unfortunately I hate the taste of alcohol and can't tolerate cigarette smoke.a
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 02:39 AM
1

I kinda agree with that. It shouldn't be an explicit conversation topic. Instead just look for chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 02:36 AM
1

I hate coffee ( I order cocoa) but tea, yogurt, or whatever falls in the general category.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 02:15 AM
5

Well... If all you seek is sex I can see your point. Personally, if I don't like talking to her then it won't go further.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 02:13 AM
1

Oh and it's a private Facebook group, no men allowed, so no way to recount the actual events in defense. It's probably just as well. Defending yourself draws attention and exacerbates the problem. I had something similar happen on another social media site and ended up in an all day chat with one of the nasties. She selectively edited and outright altered the conversation to make me seem like an abuser then sent it to my public contacts. I closed my account rather than deal with it.
/r/seduction22/02/20 05:28 PM
3

Actually it does. In the megalopolis I live in the young women belong to a secret Facebook group where they identify abusers, cheaters, creeps, guys who pump and dump, guys with small dicks, guys who are selfish lovers, guys that broke their hearts, guys that piss them off, etc. Guys here walk on eggshells in fear of provoking the group's wrath. They've been known to contact employers to get identified guys fired, harass guys' girlfriends, contact guys' mothers, and stalk them on social media. T…
/r/seduction22/02/20 09:46 AM
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Yes, and he will have to provide all the financial support in exchange for... what, exactly? Her picture was cute but in the Philippines where this gal lives there's plenty of younger, prettier, childless girls who have much more to offer, including being self-supporting at a low level.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/02/20 12:09 AM
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This is in the Philippines where the rate of technical literacy is low, especially among the impoverished.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/02/20 10:40 PM
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This was in the Philippines where broken English is common.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/02/20 10:26 PM
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The basic problems: 1) Sex can happen without love but love cannot happen without sex except in very rare, particular circumstances. Sex is necessary but not sufficient. 2) Sexual attraction is the easiest factor to evaluate, literally within a 10th of a second in many cases. 3) Sexual compatibility can be determined within a few minutes. Emotional compatibility takes a long time. 4) As others have stated, sex fulfills a more primal need than love. Nearly all men would rather have sex without lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 11:54 AM
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Always a good idea. Unfortunately, guys lie or have inflated views of their capabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 03:26 AM
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You can't know if there is sexual attunement before having sex. You may have great chemistry but then the sex is terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 11:04 PM
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Catcalling is not age-related unless the target is under the age of consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 08:52 PM
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That seems to belie the stories I've read on r/sex and FDS but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 08:49 PM
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Yes. This isn't about training good lovers, its about stopping a bad encounter before it goes further.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 08:48 PM
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Are you arguing there’s nothing wrong with sexual harassment? No. And are you arguing it’s not worse by the age gap? That's up to individual interpretation of the person harassed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 08:46 PM
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Yeah, could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 03:10 PM
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As I wrote it was just an example. That's not the important part of the message.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 02:02 PM
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Some don't but penetration without full preparation is unpleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 12:36 PM
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Lol you schooled her well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 11:28 AM
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That's an interesting perspective. I hadn't thought of that. But it also implies that men must tiptoe around unstated boundaries, guessing, for example, when she is ready for penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 10:43 AM
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I agree it can feel awkward but at the same time your partner is definitely asserting his needs. Asserting yourself may ruin things but feeling like a cum receptacle feels worse. I'm a firm believer in just kicking them out unfucked if they don't eat puss, Sounds like we are in agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 08:53 AM
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You have full agency and random old people on the street hold no power over you. You're merely rationalizing your disgust. You essentially argue that you wish to deprive other young women of their sexual agency because you felt you misused yours in the past from naivety. In no way was the dirty old man who conned you out of a hug exhibiting "entitlement". I ask again, what exactly do you want? An age gap law? Raise the age of consent? Proclaiming your ideology and slamming everyone who doesn't c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 08:03 AM
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Well... the young girl's breasts don't collapse when held, she doesn't have leathery skin, her vagina is strong and grippy, she has better muscle tone, and her progeny are much less likely to have birth defects.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 07:32 AM
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Except for gold diggers
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 07:15 AM
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I’ve learned entitlement as a defense mechanism to all the sexual harassment and threat I feel on a day/to-day basis. At least you admit it. But, the point is, until you communicate unambiguously that you don't want to be talked to then you cannot legitimately claim that the person talking to you is entitled. You may be disgusted but you have no right to not be approached. That’s why older men shouldn’t go for younger women. Because younger women haven’t learned what older men are capable of. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 06:48 AM
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Yeah I think you're right
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 06:11 AM
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Great feedback, thanks. I'd appreciate hearing more about the difficulty in setting your boundaries. Was it mostly difficult because horny men were breaking your boundaries?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 06:11 AM
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I have no ideas to offer men. Not sexist, I just can't think of anything
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 06:06 AM
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elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 05:44 AM
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Yes, but its only for the first time when it may be wise not to fully hand over the keys to your body yet. But, you could also think about your dream sex encounter, write what happens, and base your "script" on that. I wrote the example from a semi-femdom perspective but in a more traditionally feminine, submissive version the woman could look at her partner sweetly and say "love, could you do (this) for me?" It will melt the heart of all but the most obnoxious bastards. If he doesn't perform sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 05:43 AM
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I completely agree. That's why on your first encounter you make him earn the right of penetration instead of just giving him control.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 05:33 AM
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What you're talking about is exactly the staging I meant but with a first partner when you're not sure of sexual compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 05:32 AM
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I'll need elaboration before I can comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 05:30 AM
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Assuming a man understands female sexuality, cares about his partner's satisfaction, and is not physically deficient the main reason a man can be sexually unsatisfied is vaginal feel. That is not a discussion I wish to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 05:25 AM
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Yeah, that's usually the way it usually works, at least the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 05:19 AM
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I don't disagree with that, but this is written for a woman's first sexual encounter with a man when the attunement may be poor. Its essentially a way for a woman to make sure her partner speaks her sexual language before granting him penetration rights. Instead many women hand over their bodies and if the sex is lousy feel bad afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 05:15 AM
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You can't kick them to start behaving, but on your first sex encounter with a man you can take a little control to make sure he's up to the task. The OP is solely about the first encounter, not long-term behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 05:09 AM
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Because they still complain about bad sex encounters. Some delay sex out of fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 05:06 AM
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Sounds like you've had many disappointing sexual experiences so you set your standards low and eliminated your boundaries. I'm sincerely sorry to hear this. I think you and I locked horns on another thread on another sub a few days ago. This adds an interesting dimension to that argument. It sounds like you've given up on sexual satisfaction and see sex as a requirement for something else, like love, a relationship, children, or marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 05:02 AM
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I was having fun with an example but it seems to have fallen flat. I tried to communicate it would be different for every woman. The basic point though is that if a woman exercises a little control on her first sex encounter with a man and make sure her needs are attended to prior to penetration she can feel far more confident that she will avoid a bad experience. Make a man earn the privilege to penetrate you by helping you orgasm first (hopefully several times). After the first encounter this …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:50 AM
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Thanks. I started reading when I was 19 and I'm still reading almost 30 years later lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:41 AM
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You are making my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:39 AM
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I agree. I miswrote as I stated in another comment. This is for the sexually experienced. "first time with a particular partner" is what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:38 AM
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I miswrote. I should have written first time with a partner, not just first time which means losing virginity. Virgins are too ignorant of their needs to do any of this. This is meant for the sexually experienced who are in tune with their desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:37 AM
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There is a correlation but that's why I wrote in another comment that these pre-sexual cues are basically disqualifiers but you can still easily have a bad sex encounter with a man who is empathic. Men's psychology changes once sex appears imminent, men may lack knowledge of sex, men fake empathy to score, etc. Staging sex is far more reliable. Ideally, you get orgasms before he penetrates.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:34 AM
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That's the point I'm trying to make. Instead of giving an untried sex parter control of your body stage things to virtually guarantee a great penetration every time. Staging is a way for a man to earn the woman's sexual confidence and if he can't he will not be allowed penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:29 AM
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The staging list is an example I had fun with and written from the pov of a woman being cautious rather than a man trying to escalate. But, it follows the general pattern: romance->cuddle->kiss->cunnilingus->penetration. It seems pretty typical to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:26 AM
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In a way I do. I try to make sure a partner has an orgasm before penetration or at least is begging for me to be inside her. Is that a bad thing? Most women are so into it they are unaware.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:18 AM
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Its never been a problem for me. I'm writing this for women who are hesitant about first-time sex to feel better about the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:15 AM
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It's better to gauge a guy for sexual prowess before going to bed with him. I don't disagree with that but its just an early stage really, the part I wrote with "romance me" in stage 1 of the example. The problem is its only a way to disqualify a man but not much else. He can be a great kisser and dancer but then you give him control of your body and he doesn't know about your clit or he blows in you in 30 seconds then rolls over and goes to sleep. There's plenty of tales about that from women o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:13 AM
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So enlighten me then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:06 AM
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Because among other reasons women feel taken advantage of if the man is sexually selfish, the natural female resistance due to pregnancy, and female orgasm is much more complicated than male orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:06 AM
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Ideally that is the case but for a first encounter it can be dicey. Also each woman has different needs and so their stages would be different. I'm suggesting that if you think about what you like to have happen before penetration during your first sex encounter with a man, communicate those needs, and enforce them, you can drastically reduce the risk of bad emotions after a sex encounter. Its better to find out at the cuddle stage you don't think it will work out rather than after his dick is i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:00 AM
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Actually if you re-read the message that is my point. You got hung up on an example I was having fun with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 03:53 AM
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The steps in a sexual encounter leading up to intercourse but not going to the next step until the previous one is fulfilled to the woman's satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 03:49 AM
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After reading this again I realized you're describing your own "staging" script anyway. Dancing, kissing, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 03:48 AM
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I see your point with that. It doesn't have to be as domineering as the example I provided. Basically, if you are cuddled with a guy but you're not ready to take your clothes off and he tries to you don't let him. It would just be a disaster anyway if you let him. If he insists then you say bye. If you continue all the way to penetration you will be upset and angry anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 03:46 AM
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I think what you're saying is that staging sex this way prevents a woman from the submissive mindset necessary to enjoy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 03:36 AM
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But you do care if he is a selfish lover who doesn't care about your orgasm, right? One who will plow right into you without foreplay and blow in 30 seconds? Getting to know him tells you almost nothing about that especially since many men are unaware or care about the clitoris and female sexuality. Even if you talk about it that doesn't mean he will actually do it. By staging your first sex encounter you can see if your needs are attended to before granting him penile access to your vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 03:31 AM
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I've read so many Reddit tales about men who seem perfect after months of dating then are awful in bed. Many women don't realize men undergo psychological changes once sex appears imminent. Then they're mad when not only the sex is bad but they wasted months of time. By staging sex like I described women can avoid these problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 03:25 AM
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Only if you specifically talk about sex in detail beforehand. Even then you must cope with the guys who bullshit in the long term and those who talk the talk but don't walk the walk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 03:15 AM
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I'm talking about the old men who want to use their power of authority because of their age to hit on me. But you're assuming that's why they do it. In reality its just because you're hot. You're pre-judging then claiming entitlement. In any event merely hitting on you does not convey entitlement. I think the entitlement is actually yours: similarly to attractive women who get offended if a man too far beneath their league hits on them ("how DARE he think he could be with me"!) you think you are…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 03:11 AM
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That's my point. This is a way to test a man's sexual prowess without going all the way because women are afraid of bad sexual encounters. Instead women let men do their thing and then get pissed off after the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 03:02 AM
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It depends on the woman and the way she thrusts. But its just an example, each woman can rewrite it for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 02:57 AM
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The book She Comes First suggests otherwise but it depends on the woman and their level of stimulation. In any event, this is just a creative example.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 02:55 AM
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This isn't about what a man does.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 02:54 AM
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Are you saying if the woman does it its a turn off to the man?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 02:49 AM
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know plenty of older women who are HOTTER than women my age. Youre looking at outliers, mostly women who were far more attractive than average when young. On average women your age are are far hotter than older women. A woman who was a 10 at 20 and an 8 at 35 will still be hotter than a 20 yo 7. What is your point? The problem is in 10 years that 20yo will be a 6 but the 35yo will be a 5. Its a simple time investment and rapidly decreasing returns. Women use the psychological swap as a rationali…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 01:53 AM
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Nah its just because you're still close to your peak attractiveness. You're attributing the biological to the psychological.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 01:38 AM
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Its not subconscious. The smooth, supple skin, faces without cracks, muscle tone, strong vaginas, firm breasts, and sexual endurance all scream, "I am at peak fertility!"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 01:31 AM
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A man you're not attracted is attracted to you. Therefore, he's "entitled". Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 01:19 AM
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Men see youthfulness as an investment. An 18yo will keep her looks longer than a 28yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 12:30 AM
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That's really all there is to say on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 12:25 AM
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Women-only gyms are quite common in the USA.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/02/20 02:53 AM
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Gyms are private clubs with different rules.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/02/20 02:46 AM
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The Civil Rights Acts. They are court tested. He can have his establishment but if he wants to sell his services to the public then he loses the right to discriminate, a loophole private clubs use.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/02/20 02:40 AM
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Marital status falls under familial status which most definitely is illegal to discriminate on. Teachers used to get fired for getting married. That no longer happens.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/02/20 02:30 AM
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Another exception is single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 04:03 AM
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Witness what happens when wingnuts think abstinence ideology passes for sex education.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/02/20 03:48 AM
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If you shut down the sexual opportunity with her then why is this even an issue? There's no question she wants you. All you can do is lose by denying her sex. She can and will go elsewhere if you won't see to her need.
/r/seduction12/02/20 10:54 AM
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It's too early for that tactic. You should attempt physicality first and then if she goes cold try the friendzone tactic. If she has sex with you its all the affirmation you need.
/r/seduction12/02/20 10:35 AM
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My daughter was in a quality daycare from 6 months old and I think she is better adjusted than I was because of it. She's had continual social interaction with children her age all her life. Starting school was traumatic for me.
/r/MensRights09/02/20 01:26 PM
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I'm pretty sure she is. Karen Cross Twitter
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/02/20 11:02 AM
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Punish the kid for the mother's actions then spend far more money on criminal justice.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/02/20 12:53 AM
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