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Yeah.. you're 18 - you're still children pretty much too. But I'm thinking you have a different idea of what dominant means than most. You have way too few life experience to be a wise adult yet. At 25 you do start having some decent life experience. I mean.. saying that 18y males are still children when being 18 yourself sounds like you're a bit too full of yourself. As if you knew yet what being an adult is like and means because you hit the magic 18y mark. At that age people usually just did …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 07:55 PM
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The trick is to engage men instead of passively waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 07:41 PM
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99 percent of men are incapable of taking control of themselves, let alone me. Uhm? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:30 PM
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If you have no idea what a man's personality is like, he needs to be really good looking to compensate for that. That's concidentally how it works for men in regards to approaching women. If you have no idea what a woman's personality is like - guess what she'll be judged by.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:26 PM
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Well... if you need to tell people you're not like other girls/guys... maybe you don't really stand-out enough anyway? The cringy part is that it comes across as not genuine .. as if you're playing a role to not be like the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:22 PM
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See... I have this principle. I don't want women to judge me based on my sexual history. I can't force women to do that but I can be a "role model" in the hope that women return this favor and stop judging men based on their sexual experiences. Fight hate with love.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:16 PM
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Depends. If it was consensual, respectful, honest sex with guys looking for ONS then I wouldn't call her a slut. She's a promiscous woman sure, but not a slut. If she did it to brag about it then she'd be a slut by my standards. If she slept with guys she knew were taken then she'd be a slut too. If she didn't say this is a one time thing and leads one guy on after the other then she'd also be a slut. I don't call honest, decent women sluts just because they're promiscous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:06 PM
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Do you support feminism? No. I support gender neutral laws and tolerance but that's it. Not very fond of all the bullshit feminism does.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 11:31 AM
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It's not the N-count... it's the motivation/attitude behind it. If you sleep around for attention then you're a slut even if it's just an N-count of 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 11:28 AM
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If you weren't physically attracted to the woman who signaled her interest in you then it wouldn't matter. That's the biggest misconception women have about male sexuality and maybe this is why you're stuck. Men don't immediately want to sleep with any decent looking woman. Sexual attraction grows out of intimacy. Yes, if she's obese then the chances are pretty low you'll develop sexual attraction to her but otherwise even if you don't immediately want to sleep with her you'll hang around and se…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 11:25 AM
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Then fire up tinder, swipe right on all guys? If you get matches... good for you. If you don't then you can confidentely claim it's your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 06:55 PM
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It's true that men desire the most physically attractive women That's true. Not gonna lie to you but you missed the bigger picture. We (as a group) desire pretty much any decent looking woman - not just the most attractive ones. Try to imagine being a man and use common sense - not what trp, feminism or some stupid magazine says. Just use your own judgement. If you have to cold approach women which one do you pick? If you befriend a group of women to whom are you going to develop feelings? Is co…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 06:50 PM
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Genders are supposed to complement each other - not to be equal. Anybody believing otherwise is a fool. They should have equal rights - but anybody trying to fight for gender equality outside a legal context is a fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 06:08 PM
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Well... you women are welcome to shame male sluts more but we both know that ain't gonna happen. That said.. sluts of this definition are rare anyway. Male even rarer. Promiscous women/men not so much but I don't call them sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 06:00 PM
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The male word for slut yes. Slut is a gendered term.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 03:18 PM
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Gigolo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 12:52 PM
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Yeah - you can't tell. It's a combination of attitude, availability and looks. You might be hot af but if you settle at 19 you might have an N-count of 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 08:20 AM
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If she uses sex to gain an advantage or materialistic benefits then she's a slut. That's my definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:50 AM
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No. It's just a picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:47 AM
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Slut is a matter of attitude - not N-count. And if you don't sense a slut attitude after years then she probably ain't a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:45 AM
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How do you think attraction works? You walk down the streets and attract guys like a magnet.. following you home into your bed to sleep with you? You go to a bar sit alone at a table for four attracting guys to sit next to all wanting to fuck you? That's not how it works. Men really aren't as thirsty as feminists want you to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 06:24 AM
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Yep. 100% this. You can be hot as fuck if you don't engage with men it still won't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 06:18 AM
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Dude, under 17.5 you are anorexic. That's the medical definition of it. It's not healthy. The ICD/WHO surely has no interest in shaming people - they just want them to be healthy. Under 18.5 you're underweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 06:13 AM
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So? It systemically effects short men. You could also say it doesn't systemically effect women - just the ones with children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 06:07 AM
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What does TRP have to offer anyway. I'm a frequent hiker, boulderer and a parkour athlete. I'd ace the PSTs... 20 pull-ups etc. is really not a challenge. So TRP's #1 advice "get in shape" is something I'm already doing. I have two degrees in Computer Science so income ain't a problem either. That takes care of TRP's #2. I'm thinking about becoming a gardener or fitness instructor though - I'm starting to have enough of software development.. it's too boring. What's #3?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 09:37 PM
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At best you could say if women suddenly start being obese then there'd be less attractive women on the market which would indeed be a problem for men and a benefit for the remaining attractive women as they become scarcer and thus gain value but the obese women will have problems finding mates so there's little incentive to become fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 09:25 PM
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I don't see how fat acceptance harms men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 08:57 PM
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It sounded like we should use force. As in "they used force why can't you".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 08:56 PM
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Yeah.. that might work if it's 1 in 100 but 1 in 80'000 should really give you a hint how serious the problem is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 08:54 PM
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No. According to my online dating statistics I could get 1 in 80'000 women at best (about 3 women in my whole country). So.. no...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 08:34 PM
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Wait... you're suggesting we should blow homes up? Should we also kidnap and shame women for not wanting to sleep with small dicked men? You're telling us we should be like radical incels? What the fuck? I mean sure... radical incels are probably more than happy to do that but seriously? That's insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 08:32 PM
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Yeah, but that wouldn't have worked if men were the kind of gender that is being unreasonable. It worked because men listen to women. We could just have said "women are a bunch of losers. Fuck em" but we didn't. We care about the well-being of women. Since women don't care about the well-being of men it probably wouldn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 08:25 PM
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Because it wouldn't have an effect. Would women suddenly start prefering bald guys? I doubt that. The only reaction you'd get is "look at these loser men. They can't get laid. What a bunch of entitled losers. Women don't owe bald men sex." Also... all men's movements would be instantly classified as a hate group unless it benefits women. That's essentially why.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 08:19 PM
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And I could tell you which of those my type is even though I clearly wouldn't be able to get either of those. Type does not depend on what you can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 08:03 PM
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Type doesn't refer to deformities. Types are much more subtle.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 08:02 PM
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No. Just trying to demonstrate that you can't rank women just like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 08:01 PM
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Yeah.. sure. Short guys earn on average less than tall guys. Economical equality is a bullshit standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 08:00 PM
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BMI 16.5 is not thin - it's medically underweight. Usually. BMI <18 hints towards mental health issues. I'm sorry but if your BMI is below 18 you should seek assistance to develop a healthy body image and to get to a healthy weight. As for the other parts: Guys have different types. There's no such thing as "what can I do to attract any random guy". They only almost certain thing is that obesity is usually universally considered unattractive. I don't know but "attract guy" sounds like your doing…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 07:58 PM
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That's why men go homo in prison. Yeah - and you'll drink your piss if you had to. Does that make you a piss drinker? As for the other part let me objectify a few women to demonstrate why you're terribly wrong. Which of these women is the hottest? https://www.barefootliving.de/media/image/56/46/fa/[email protected] https://www.barefootliving.de/media/image/13/a8/3a/[email protected] https://www.barefootliving.de/media/image/d2/40/88/Rip-hellgrau-4-Ko…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 07:45 PM
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Why? Life is not a fair game anyway. Is it fair that people lose their homes due to illness? Is it fair that people get cancer? Is it fair that people can't afford rent even though they work 40h? There are so many issues that are worse than "it's not fair I have a uterus". You were born a woman and this has some biological consequences as much as it has biogical consequences to be born with a penis. None of us got to decide what gender they want to be born with. Instead of demonizing you should …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 07:25 PM
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Don't blame men. Blame employers. It's near impossible to get adequate part time jobs. If you want this to change go petition the government for enabling part time jobs. Currently the most feasible option is for her to be SAHM for a number of reasons. a.) Due to pregnancy she'll be absent a few months anyway. b.) Jobs women have may not pay as much. c.) It's considered feminime d.) a lot of womem genuinely want to be SAHM anyway. e.) Women more often have jobs that allow for part time jobs (coif…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 06:07 PM
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Biology. You're human. Humans are a dimorphic species. Deal with it. Women birth children. Learn to accept it. Men and women are supposed to complement each other - that's the whole purpose of why species have two genders: because it was apparentely a very smart thing given how sucessful it is. One might think one gender would be better but I'd say given that so many species have different genders it's probably not superior to two genders. Men don't get pregnant. If you can't accept this you suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 05:04 PM
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Yeah? So? People have fetishes, they have weird sexual fantasies, more than anybody wants to admit. So? Why does that make one "bad"? Everybody has a kink.. and that's fine as long as you don't hurt other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 01:01 PM
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The key to heterofriendships is to keep romantic gestures out of it. If I had a female friend no matter how hot she is I wouldn't want to sleep with her unless she makes romantic gestures. Essentially they work fine if they are jogging buddy style of friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 12:41 PM
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Attraction isn't a conscious thing you know. They should start teaching a bit of psychology'n'sex in sexed classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 12:37 PM
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Edit: there's a line of course (i.e. body building, body art) where it becomes self-imposed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 09:56 AM
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Man ABSOLUTELY have standards of male beauty they hold themselves too---often DIFFERENT ones than the majority of women. And I could say the same thing about women so we'd reach a stalemate? I also have to tell some women on reddit reading through an insta hotty's profile that this ain't a realistic standard men have... but it's still a fantasy standard. I don't think this is different for women. They'll have fantasy standards and realistic standards but media and characters are formed by and he…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 09:49 AM
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... and hunnam fits the cultural idea what a pretty man is. Which is a standard women have - and maybe gay people - but not men. The idea what pretty is is always formed by the standard the other gender has.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 09:40 AM
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don't complain about your lack of female companionship, it's not really important Yeah. Every psychological model I know has love&sex listed as a basic need. You can't talk basic needs out of people. If you really want to fix this problem you should spread messages that make people date more - not less. Create bars for singles which are dedicated to approaching so men know it's ok to approach and women know what they're getting into (and that it's ok for them to approach as well). There will be …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 09:30 AM
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How do you measure equality in this regard? Pregnancy and children may disrupt careers but that's unavoidable. It's part of the human condition. But how does that make you less equal? Am I less equal than women because I can't run as fast as a female 100m sprinter?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 09:23 AM
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Uhm? How do you get from "having a father is good for mental development of the child" to "why do men blame single moms for their children’s problems when men are the ones who abandon their kids?" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 09:18 AM
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https://youtu.be/xpIFaKnNvco If this were male-on-female and not female-on-male guess what the reaction to this would be? Esp. at 8:27. Women don't really hold them selves up to the standards they require from men in terms of objectification. Which is just baffling. Feminism spent mio. and years in research to research this stuff and what the consequences are only to ignore it because the targets are male? She's a public figure and a woman so it's very likely she has been the victim of sexism an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 08:45 AM
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Undeniably actors are more ripped than in the past and I don't think we demanded that. It just makes us insecure about our own bodies so I really doubt we demanded that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 07:47 AM
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Watch the video from last week tonight with john oliver about public shaming. People love to do those kinds of things. It's so predictable. In any discussion about entitlement a bunch of moron feminists will come along attacking you personally with "dude... women don't owe you sex you loser" even though it's crystal clear that you were never thinking that. People see triggers... their brain shuts down and they just spew out some random crap. It's worse when a bunch of people pile that crap onto …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 09:12 PM
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This is a very well written response. You deserve a cookie.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:43 PM
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If you were male you'd know. Essentially there's a lot going on to support women's body types (i.e. curvy models, fat walks etc.) but very little for men. Yes, we could also form protests but I mean... we doubt it'll have any sort of impact as we're generally aware of that male opinions in that regard aren't welcome. It'd only provoke a "look at these weak men" reaction from feminism. There would be no use doing that. It would only matter if women would listen but we know in current political cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:39 PM
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Maybe that's due to the target audience being male? If the target audience were female I'll bet you a hundred bucks they would have shaped the characters according to women's desires. Everybody does this. Book authors, porn studios, movie studios, game studios, magazine studios. Where do you think the trend to super ripped characters in movies came from? I'll bet you another 100 bucks it's to please the female audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:28 PM
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Prisoner's dilemma man. Look it up. You'll be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:23 PM
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So? Yes. But then you notice on your weekly weighing that you gained weight so you know to eat a bit less next week. For christs sake maintaining stable wait ain't hard. You don't even need a scale. A look into a mirror will do the trick. I don't even own a scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 07:02 PM
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It doesn't relate to the arguments nor questions in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:41 PM
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.. thanks for an off topic comment? Isn't there a rule that says top level comments need to be on topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:39 PM
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You don't need to count calories. If you don't eat 3000 EXTRA calories you don't need to burn them. If you eat 5.5k then yeah.. you need to burn them. But 5.5k is an insane amount of food. Most people on a regular diet are not obese and don't count calories. See, I don't believe you're that stupid but you might have some unhealthy obsessions about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:38 PM
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You don't get obese nor chubby by cutting back to 3 times a week. Seriously. You're an adult. Act like one. You know weight is an issue of eating right. Plenty of people don't exercise all week but they don't turn chubby because they don't overeat. If you don't trust a guy saying this I'm certain some woman here will help me out and tell you the exact same thing. You might be chubby after pregnancy for a while.. men know this and they will support you in getting back in shape should this be a pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 03:11 PM
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As an addendum: 4 year apprenticeship means you're done at 19. If you settle at 21 both of you make 8k per month together. You only need 4.5k for two persons. That's 3.5k per month which is 42k plus 8k for 13th so 50k saving per year. At 26 you'll have 250k in your savings account. Boom. You got the money to have kids and travel the world or stuff and have the best chances you can get to a stable life. That's how I would do it. No RP theory, no MRA, no feminism... it's simply the best option. Fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 03:00 PM
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Yeah... but you settle at 23-24 and start having first baby at 27-28.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 02:51 PM
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Also https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/bh5qyf/sex_and_entitlement_part_ii/elqdo8v?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 02:49 PM
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For the other part: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/bh5qyf/sex_and_entitlement_part_ii/elqf0a7?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 02:45 PM
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I need to breath because I'll die. What consequences does toning down to gym 2 times per week have for you? Unless you want to be a pro athlete is it really better to work out 6 times vs. 2-3 times and spending time with someone who loves you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 02:42 PM
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... thanks for this completely off topic comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 02:39 PM
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But anyway.. if you go by legal definitions then there can't be any person feeling entitled to sex as there's no legal basis and you'd have to call that expectation and not entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 09:01 AM
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Then define contract. It's not a contract as it's not legally binding but that's really the only difference. A contract is just an agreement that is enforcable by threating with violence from the state should one party not stick to the agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:55 AM
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Well. In a strict sense entitlement means you have a right to something. In that case it's impossible to feel entitled to sex as no such right exists. In which case the only thing you could feel is expectation which some people apparentely call entitlement so expectation and entitlement mean the same thing in those contexts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:54 AM
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It is. If I agree with a friend to meet at 7pm in a bar this is a contract to me. He can break it but you can also break contracts. There will be consequences when you do but you don't actually have to fulfill legal contracts. You can break any legal contract. It's not illegal to break contracts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:49 AM
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Me? I'm considered a pleasant guy IRL. Well educated, friendly I hike, climb and do parkour. I play piano, guitar, irish flute and various instruments like bariton, trombone (they are very related and if you can play one of those you usually can pick up the other fast as they work the same way they're just different in mouth piece size). I'm a member of the local sports club and a help trainer (meaning in case the main trainers are unavailable I train the youth). Old people (40+) generally consi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:30 AM
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No. There's genuinely a small amount of women here with seriously fucked up views on men and part of my engagement for gender equality consists of offering them an honest male perspective in the hopes that they'll grow a healthy view.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:16 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:14 AM
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Men worry about looks too. It just doesn't get the media attention. You have to be aware of the fact that in current climate problems women have are amplified and problems men have are diminuished. Feminism is a powerful hate movement and media probably doesn't want to risk a boycott from half their customers for mentioning a male problem. This is just one issue why I keep repeating feminism hinders gender equality and one should ditch it for better movements. When a newspaper reported that anor…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:13 AM
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It's fine if you have legit reasons for it. It might be difficult to find a husband who doesn't but that's on you. There's no point in devalueing women who don't want children. As long as you can accept that most other people do want children and don't rage online about people asking an innocent "don't you want children" question you're fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:05 AM
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Red.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:01 AM
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I have no idea what TRPs mean but I also recommend settling at 23. It's financially the best option, it's the best option for health of the baby. It's much easier to date at those ages. Dating at 30 is so much harder. There really isn't any advantage in delaying? Just ignore TRP, BP, RP, feminism and MRA crap for once and ask yourself honestly: What do I gain by purposely delaying?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 07:58 AM
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Things a woman can’t do when she gets married: You can’t travel for a job. You can’t work long hours. You can’t jump from job to job. You can’t take on a shifty lower job. Let's correct this to "things a spouse can't do". All your points are both nonsense and true. Your view of the concept marriage is the issue. Marriage binds you. Yes. Marriage eats time. Children eats time. But: Marriage is not about benefit. If you marry to benefit you're doing it wrong. Marriage is a contract where both agre…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 07:50 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 08:30 PM
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Well - if you're decent person you know that people don't keep bookmarks to comments they don't like just so in case you might need them to link to them 2 months later. If you do that - congrats, you're better than me, keep up the good work - but I don't keep a list of links to comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 08:08 PM
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I'm aware that there are that kind of femcels and that kind of femcels, as much as there's this kind of incel and this kind of incel. ​ I am a virgin, I have never been kissed or held hands with anyone and it's because my deformities mean I will never be chosen. ​ Yeah, I have roughly the exact same problem - and I have to accept that there's this kind of incel and that kind of incel as much as you'll have to accept that there's this kind of femcel and that kind of femcel. Generally a lot of inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:55 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 01:36 PM
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Siblings have deep emotional connections. But I doubt anybody qualifies that as true love - that may be why we languages tend to have separate words for those.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 10:59 AM
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Uhm... no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 10:56 AM
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So... I see it like this. People have idealized wants and stuff. You know.. if I could I'd want a house with 10acres of land and a pool and stuff. Reality wise you know I'd be happy with much less and I really just want a cozy home. Do women want fuckmachine 16cm studs ripped af? Sure. That might be their mansion want but what about their cozy home want? Ideally I'd want a 30 year old woman with a body of a 21 year old. If women think this represents genuine wants they'll go around online spewin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 09:52 AM
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You're drawing boundaries about how you'll spend your time and who you'll spend it with. Boundaries is just another word for terms and conditions with consequences when broken. And that's ok. It's ok to have boundaries (conditions). Let's say I say to myself "I want her to treat me with respect". That's an expectation, condition, term, boundary, want, entitlement... those are just different words to describe the same thing but they don't fundamentally change anything. An appendectomy is a surger…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 09:30 AM
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I saw one demanding 40 minutes, but that might have been a joke, or not, we'll never know. If you read online comments from women and extrapolate this to all women you'll arrive at a very crazy view of women... so one shouldn't really do that and neither should women do that about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 09:24 AM
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It appears so.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 09:20 AM
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I find that such distinctions are arbitrary and simply elaborate reasoning to not call it entitlement out of fear to admit that one feels entitled because feminism deems it inappropriate. ultimately I would respect that their body is their own, and it's therefore their prerogative to have or not have sex as they see fit. But this is also true if men feel overly entitled or demand sex or whatever? In the end everybody knows it's ultimately the other party's decision to have sex or not. There's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 09:17 AM
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Ah. Sorry. I'll repost it in a few weeks if the post doesn't violate other rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 09:00 AM
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I agree with u/littleknownfacts on this though. Practically speaking when I flick the switch I want light. Ultimately my opinion is that almost all humans - men and women - feel entitled to sex. My objection is simply that it doesn't follow from those example arguments. When two humans enter a relationship they will expect good sex or else they'll likely leave - which is a sense of entitlement. Humans feel entitled to sex in relationships and it ain't evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 07:13 AM
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I strongly disagree. According to you FWB would be love? I doubt that's how most people see this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 07:07 AM
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Both should be ok. You just have to be aware that there will be galactic bias in it because you want to shape the other gender to serve you and sleep with you etc. But both can offer some valid opinions and hints but you shouldn't ignore the bias. Also, there will be cognitive dissonance in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 07:03 AM
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My opinion is that as soon as you're figuring out strategies to play games it ain't love. Simply put. I believe you should do what feels natural and appropriate given a certain individual and not work out strategies to play games. Find someone trustworthy and loving and none of this matters and if they're not - move on to someone who is instead of using strategies in the hopes that this will make them trustworthy and loving.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 06:57 AM
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Yeah... no. Now you're just accusing me of things that aren't even remotely true and you apparentely deliberately ignored the one actual example I provided which was https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/bg7dnr/men_who_come_after_women_instead_of_other_men_are/elkc7dg?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share The user however was clever enough to delete it (or a mod did it). And trust me, that was not the only time I saw such arguments - otherwise I wouldn't have made this post. Also,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 06:14 AM
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Yeh - but a different kind of love. But again... we're arguing about semantics. There's protective love, platonic love and romantic love. We need all three of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 02:36 PM
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I'm all for better quality male2male friendships but it still ain't love.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 02:32 PM
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Uhm... you're not good at statistics is all I'm reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 02:20 PM
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I don't think that's how it works. You're proposing men should be more gay which I mean... it doesn't work as much as you can't tell a gay person he should be straight. People have their orientation and that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 02:19 PM
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Yeah.. I was very much agreeing with you so I don't know what to respond here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 02:17 PM
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No one says any of that? Uhm yes. I even provided links to example comments in other comments. Stop straw-manning It's only straw-manning if the argument being refuted is made up - which it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 02:15 PM
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You don't need to love someone to provide them comfort. But anyway... i feel like this becomes a useless debate about semantics and I don't think we should continue this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 09:10 PM
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But that's missing a point. There's a reason that this is a huge deal. The whole purpose of life is to produce life and our brain's reward and punishment system is very much made to make you reproduce and stuff. I seriously doubt any human can live a sexless childfree HAPPY life. Your brain's r&p system will punish you harsh if you're not going to reproduce and have sex. Humans need some level of appreciation. This whole notion that "things that are fun to people with basic needs met" is still f…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 08:41 PM
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Are they? Like really... are men threatening? You're trying to tell me if I throw 100 coins at 100 men 95 of those will hit a man that has threatened a woman over sex? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 07:17 PM
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So? There's surely also a ton of women complaining about bad sex or not getting oral. Again, what's the issue here? If men are unhappy with the sex they have a right to complain as much as women have a right to complain about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:56 PM
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What are you talking about? Incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:44 PM
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...?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:43 PM
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They hope for it, sure. But that's not entitlement. What's your issue here? Humans desiring sex with attractive humans of the gender they're attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:35 PM
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Well I agree that this Naleda analogy is a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:33 PM
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Can you elaborate? I have no idea what your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:27 PM
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He didn't con you or lie to you. The fact is simply that YOU want sex to be part of a relationship. There was no promise or written contract "there shall be sex". You just assume there is because you feel entitled to it - in a marriage. No big deal. That's not evil. That's just being a healthy adults. Or you didn't understand my example. Let's say you are married for ten years and suddenly your husband refuses sex. Would you accept that or find sex elsewhere and terminate the relationship becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:15 PM
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It does but on a nonsense conceptual abstract level and in reality pretty much all men and women feel entitled to sex to some degree under some circumstances. That and a bunch of morons. The premise wasn't it doesn't exist but that the example arguments are nonsense and entitlement does not follow from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:01 PM
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By saying you'd leave a person withholding sex in a marriage which in my books is entitlement to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 05:58 PM
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I desire eating caviar. Does that mean I'm entitled to caviar?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 05:32 PM
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You can’t deny that there are men who argue that women should have to have sex with whatever man whenever they want it. No, but you can't deny that there are women who argue we should kill 90% of the male population. It's just that this is so rare that it's not even an insignificant issue. They exist - but that's it. Security agencies should keep an eye on it to prevent tragedies but that's essentially it. Another said that historically women were giving up the right to refuse sex in order to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 05:26 PM
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Generally there's the concept of romantic love and platonic love which are not the same thing. One's basically "friendship" and the other is "love". I found it weird that you equate love with friendship + sex because ... I don't love my friends. I don't want to hang around them 24/7 and do romantic stuff and shit. Love is so much more than just friendship. Friendships are far more superficial and no emotional intimacy etc. But we all have different ideas of romance/love and sex and how they rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 05:01 PM
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I said that I would leave in circumstances where someone had misled me as to how our marriage would be, not because I was not getting sex. I know. But objectively you're leaving due to lack of sex. That's the base issue. The rest is just elaborate reasoning to not make it sound like entitlement. There is using bad moods and not talking to coerce consent to sex. In the end it boils down to what you consider acceptable behaviour or not. But those are individual issues between individuals. There's …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 04:54 PM
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do you not feel that the partner displaying anger is also displaying entitlement I'd feel that anger is an over the top reaction but maybe one party is horny and hoped for weekend sex or something and is frustrated there won't be. I'd consider that a healthy, acceptable reaction. An anger outburst I'd consider out of line. I think entitlement is a bogus concept. As you've stated you'd leave due to no-sex which I could easily rephrase as "you leave because you think he owes you sex but he doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 03:53 PM
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You should check out the research on graysexuality and related topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 03:10 PM
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There are different kinds of love. Friendships are not love and parental love isn't love too. I didn't say love is just sex. It's an addition to romantic love but friendships and parents don't replace love. Childrens brains and stuff are different. You can't just look at it as "children don't need it thus adults don't". Children can grow up alone in a forest. Their brain will be severly impaired and they'll never be functioning "adults" but they don't die. Death is not the measure you want to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:56 PM
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That's where I disagree though. Friendships and parents etc. don't replace "romantic love" and they obviously lack physical intimacy as well. Sex isn't just babies. It's also physical intimacy/bonding.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:30 PM
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I meant "he refuses sex. Never. For years. He doesn't want it at all - not today - not tomorrow - not in 3 months - never".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:28 PM
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Wrong is a matter of perspective. Let's say you enter a no-sex-before-marriage marriage with a guy. Then after marrying he refuses sex. Would this make you angry? Would it frustrate you? Would you leave him? Would you expect sex from him (or else leave or cheat or ..)? Would that constitute entitlement? Would that mean you felt entitled to sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:18 PM
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There's also the word "met" in that same sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:07 PM
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There's also Your basic needs are not being violated because a... https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/bgfhyo/men_and_entitlement_to_sex/elkmhqw?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share I’ve seen men compare their need for sex to their... https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/bgfhyo/men_and_entitlement_to_sex/elkh3zm?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share To some the mere mention that men's (but actually any human's) emotional well-being is connected to social interact…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:05 PM
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...?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 01:58 PM
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...? Nobody was saying that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 01:56 PM
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I'm trying to make the point that need does not equate entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 01:55 PM
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Or your not her type. Or you're poor. Or you're ugly. Or she already has a backup. Or she changed. Or, or, or...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 01:51 PM
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You won’t die without it. That's a poor argument. You don't die from torture. You don't die from bullying. You don't die from rape. You don't die from social isolation. You don't die from a lot of things but that doesn't mean that basic needs are not met/violated. And you’re not entitled to use someone else’s body because of “needs”. I know. That's not what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 01:16 PM
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You need to elaborate a bit what you mean by that? I'm showing reasons people have used on reddit to base the idea of entitlement on. If it were a textbook strawman I'd have to refute an argument the "strawman" didn't make which is not the case here as those are genuine arguments people made on subs. It's a collection of arguments I've encountered - not made up arguments thus it's not a true strawman argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 01:11 PM
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"As a nascent pubescent boy, your mission is to l... https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/bg7dnr/men_who_come_after_women_instead_of_other_men_are/elkc7dg?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Would be the most recent one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 01:05 PM
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None of that is what women mean when they say men act like they are entitled to sex. No, but it seems to be what some use as reason to conclude that men feel entitled to sex. I've seen that a lot on feminist subs and on this sub just minutes before I decided to make this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 01:03 PM
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Yes, but it's got NOTHING to do with entitlement and women oweing them sex. Absolutely nothing. The reason for this is simply that a.) Good for self-esteem b.) Avoid virgin shaming and c.) Get sexual experience because women will value this. It has nothing to do with entitlement. It's even in the quote you presented. There's not a single word in there saying they are entitled to sex. That's why it's such a big deal for incels, high school boys, and every man ever put on this earth. No, it's not.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 11:46 AM
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I’d fuck that ass’ That's not ok but it's not assault, yes. If it's directed at you (and not to his buddy) it may constitute harassment and def. should be if it's continous. That's imo the common sense approach. We don’t hear each other well tbh. That's sadly certainly true and tbh the extremists don't help at all. but there are valid issues that feminism rightly seeks to address. Absolutely, but it's accompanied by a lot of other 'crap' that feminism also does.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 11:03 AM
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Yeah - and you can just surprise mace a guy too. Or pick any heavy item and go for the head. Or grab a knife from your pocket in a split second. Yes - you're screwed if some suprise attacks you but ANYBODY is screwed in that situation. Besides: You underestimate how difficult overpowering someone actually is (assuming no weapons). It'll easily take three guys to do that for a woman. I'm decently strong but there's no chance in hell I'll easily overpower an average woman. How are you supposed to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 10:55 AM
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He was found guilty but the judge refused to impose any punishment because it would impact his life too much - would interfere with his job and impact his relationship with his children. But that's a different problem. Judges are supposed to factor in many variables in the sentencing. It's counter-intuitive but there are higher reasons to consider. You sometimes do more damage to a family/society when you punish them than it's worth it. Parents get more lenient sentences or none than a single, c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 10:44 AM
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Yep, you're right. Thanks, I had it wrong. I still have a hard time believing that all force necessary (rape) was truly legal. But it appears so. That said swiss rape laws should be reformed to ditch the condition that the victim must be female. I see no reason to reject rape for male-on-male or female-on-male. Rape should be rape. And many men in many western countries today, were raised with the idea that a man is entitled to sex from their partners. Sure, but not my generation (late 80ies+). …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 10:21 AM
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Yeah - but we're not in the nineties anymore and technically that law worked both ways iirc. And you're exaggerating the law. Withholding sex was grounds for divorce - that was essentially it. It was still illegal to rape your wife - technically.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 09:59 AM
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Hmpf. In our age physical strength does not matter anymore to the extent it did years ago. We've got knifes, pepper spray, guns, tasers and drugs. The weakest person could disable the strongest ones. Ok. Any argument based on physical strength is a bullshit argument. I.e. this who aren't able to defend themselves as easily as your attractive male counterpart that's dating them Is nonsense. The idea that men can easily defend themselves or attack women is nonsense in our age. Ok. Men know women o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 09:55 AM
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Who the fuck teaches this to men? Seriously. Who? And don't give me a bullshit answer like "patriarchy". Patriarchy is a concept - not a concrete active agent doing things. I can't remember a single damn time something told me "son, women owe you sex" and I guarantee you 99.99% of men won't remember a single damn time either. It does not exist. It's a problem feminism has made up. Yes, there might be a very small fraction of lunatics who think women owe them sex but you shouldn't just extrapolat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 09:39 AM
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Why do we discharge men at 30 from the army? Because they ain't as fit anymore and the prevalence of various ailments and injuries is higher than at 20. Why do lots of people stop doing track&fields stuff seriously past 30? For the exact same reason. The body can't handle it anymore to the same degree as when they were young. Our peak is more likely 22-23.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 09:32 AM
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I'm 28. And at 28 some already have knee or back problems. Not me, but a few percent do. There's all sorts of health conditions arising as you get past 30. If you really want to do something do it NOW and don't wait until you're 30+. Look,I already told you this is about RISK. Past 30 you're way more likely to have health conditions that hinder you than when 22. That's why you should do things while you're still healthy. Obviously most 30 aren't cripples but again... The risk for that is larger …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 07:48 AM
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It's the risk that goes up. Knee problem at 30 might be a 5% risk, meaning 19/20 can still do it but you don't want to risk being the 1 out of those 20, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:31 AM
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Quality of sex diminishes with age. Looks diminish with age. Physical performance diminishes with age. Health issues increase with age. There are some things you can only do when you're young. Some things you'll never experience if you don't do them while young. Hot sex at 18? If you miss out on that you'll never ever have it. Doing crazy hikes? Can't do that with 30 anymore. Maybe you still can if you're lucky but you know... Knee and back problems are common. I mean I often wonder how great se…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 11:28 AM
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Go to a mental institution. Preferably one with lots of histrionics and stuff. Then tell me once more women can't be creepy. Extreme examples aside. Women can by creepy but we're usually adult enough to not whine about it on the internet as part of some major hatred movement or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 11:23 AM
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This sub is for losing faith in humanity. It's excellent at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 11:20 AM
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Yes, because one man invented something then "men invented" it as if we all had something to do with it. Classic feminist logic, it's silly, but that's feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 11:18 AM
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Hmpf. There's no such thing as best genetics. Whether genes are good or not is always a hindsight statement. You can't predict this. Women DO NOT select the men with best genes... the ones they select DO have the best genes BY DEFINITION. Look at it like candy. There's NO BEST candy. The best candy is just the candy that people select most often but it's not an inherent trait of the candy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 11:11 AM
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Not that I'm RP but "the wall" usually refers to the point where a woman's looks doesn't weigh more than her personality anymore. Before the wall you can do whatever and due to your looks men won't care... once you hit the wall your looks won't compensate anything anymore... thus dating beco mes harder for some.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 11:04 AM
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No, that'd be hard. But doesn't matter anyway. As long as you're open minded and can think critically it'll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 07:21 PM
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Depends on the context. It can be used as an insult or as a factual statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 07:13 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 08:36 PM
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Hookup culture is women sleeping with guys without planning on LTR until 30. A bit of sarcasm in there but that's more or less the gist of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 11:08 AM
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They’re super in their heads about n count and purity and generally to be avoided. US must be incredibly weird. It's the only place that even has this issue. In every other modern country this just isn't any issue on any relevant scale. Either that or your view of men is fucked up by feministic agendas or something. There's no need to actively avoid them because they are so rare it's just not reasonable to develop strategies to deal with it. Either way... use social skills? If you feel like they…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 11:06 AM
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Avg. age difference is 3-4 years so they'd be 26-27 and that's really absolutely no challenge. Guys that age want to settle. ALL of them. Yes, not literally all but you know... ALL of them. If he doesn't congrats you've found a rare player.. ditch him and move on to one of the other 99% of guys. Throw 100 coins at 100 men within that age group and more than 90 of those want to settle. I really have no clue why women on the internet think this is hard. Single guys that age are looking for relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 08:07 PM
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What do ya'll think women should select for, that would "stop the decline"? Guy who treats you with respect, is fun, can take responsibility? That's how I'd select women. But I agree with others: aim to settle at 23.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 08:02 PM
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She wouldn't be a bitch because that's also against code of conduct. It's all about politeness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 02:04 PM
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I know social skills. What are you not understanding? Nobody does that. You don't ask a stranger "Is this rice any good?". No person in this country has ever done that. (And yes, maybe somewhere somebody did that but it's not something that people generally do here). In my country we mind our own business - that's the code of conduct. Yes, if it were ok then people would use lines like you suggested - but they don't because it's socially agreed upon to not talk to strangers like that in those se…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 01:56 PM
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Guys won't even -talk- to a girl at the grocery store. Or even a girl they're stuck with in line at Starbucks. They're afraid to even open their mouths for fear she'll judge them negatively. No. Not from her. They fear being judged from others due to breaking code of conduct. Nobody talks to strangers in a grocery store unless they're friends. Nobody does that. You don't talk to strangers in a bus, not in a train, not while waiting for the bus, not while shopping, etc. You don't do that. Maybe t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 01:40 PM
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There's a reason we scientists don't just spend 5 minutes to conduct and analyze studies. You need to have a proper design which means you have to consider potential outcomes and which factors might result in such an outcome. You need design the study to isolate factors you want to measure. Men don't hit on women in grocery stores due to what is considered to be proper social conduct. They are not scared of getting rejected by her but from being scrutinized by other people due to the social misc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 09:09 AM
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How is this a hard truth? Men don't hit on women in grocery stores due to what is considered to be proper social conduct. They are not scared of getting rejected by her but from being scrutinized by other people due to the social misconduct.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 09:02 AM
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When you hit on a woman and she rejects you, that means you suck and you're not good enough. It forces you to confront the fact that you're not the kind of guy that women want to date or have sex with and slaps you in the face with that fact Yeah, no. Asking for a random girl's number in a grocery store is seriously out of line. Nobody does that. Nobody except very, very few actually have this supposed problem. The only and I seriously mean only relevant problem is that approaching is out of lin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 08:49 AM
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EVERYTHING in our brain is chemical and electric potentials. Does that make it not real?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 08:39 AM
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Dating isn't going away anyway. Humans crave relationships. The only thing that changes is attitude and methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 08:37 AM
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I respect that. It shouldn't have been approved then though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 12:00 PM
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Male: no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 09:35 AM
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Yes. If it's his house then yes, if it's our house then no. If the house was his prior to marriage then it's not the couple's house but an individual person's house. If the house was bought during marriage using the couple's money then it should belong to the couple and if your country's law is different then I'd go about changing that. This is basic marriage principle. What each had before marriage wasn't earned by the couple but by an individual. Nobody should financially profit from marrying …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 08:06 AM
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Feminism is bullshit anyway. It's an inherently toxic movement and equality isn't any priority. Feminism is about finding differences. If women are worse off then they need to find a reason of how men cause this. If men are worse off they need to find a reason why men being worse off is sexism against women. If there isn't then they just invent reasons. So. Let's address divorce. The stay-at-home party should receive compensation for the loss of potential income if the other party can afford it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 06:55 PM
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Easy. A: m:f ratio at birth is 1.04:1,not 1:1 which in most war free countries with healthcare leads to a 2-4% abundance. B: let's say there are 10 men, 5 are obese, 10 women, 5 are obese. People don't find obese people attractive. What you find attractive has little to do with your own looks. Those 5 obese ones thus don't form relationships. Of course B is a simplification.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 12:02 PM
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Of course men feel chemistry. How the hell does one think otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 11:57 AM
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Average in what regard? Exactly. Do you understand why that sounds stupid? Yes. But the col. definition of "average man" isn't the same as a mathematical average.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:59 PM
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And what do you imagine is an "average" man? Somebody with average height, average weight, average IQ, average penis size, average income, average amount of cars,....? The only useful interpretation of "average" man is a man falling into the 95% range.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:21 PM
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So... you think there's a system of men keeping women chaste?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:59 PM
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We've been saying this for years? Gals need to learn to listen instead of ignoring men's complaints as "whiny entitled thirst ass men" or "can't get laid losers".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:56 PM
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Nah, I'm preaching this all the time too. Intimacy is key. Honestly... I find it funny when people say "media feeds us this lie". How and where? Wth are you watching?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:51 PM
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I'd rather put the smart one in charge. The strong ones are great to execute, the smart ones are great to plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:42 PM
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same way female sexuality is suppressed in patriarchal ones. What do you mean by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:33 PM
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What do you need? If she can nurture a kid and/or work a job if you don't have kids and she's a kind enjoyable person.. what the hell do you want more?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 07:06 PM
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I hate this "offer" nonsense. Really. What do you think person A offers that person B doesn't. We all pretty much offer the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 06:44 PM
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Yeh.. that's why I don't want anything to do with feminism even though I want full equality through gender neutral laws and stuff but feminism is just blinded by hate towards men... it's insane. Biggest mistake feminism has done imo. If it weren't for toxic feminism and toxic feminimity we'd probably already have full equality but they are too ignorant to realize this. We deserve something better. Something that actually wants and implements equality. Screw feminism and MRA.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 04:09 PM
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I agree with all those quoted comments. Sex isn't just about penetration. It. Just. Isn't. I have no idea where this myth comes from. I'd say it might be part of feminisms misandristic agenda to push this myth so that they can portray men as violent potential rapists which they then use as a base to push more misandristic agenda. You know - when you say "dating sucks if you have xyz" some feminists come along saying "men aren't owed sex you dick" or "uuhh.. i'm sorry if men are too weak" which y…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 04:00 PM
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Switzerland. If you don't take govt. mandated jobs when unemployed you'll get sanctions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:05 PM
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If you're unemployed the govt can force you into jobs that require driving a car either drive to work because no good public transport routes or you have to drive at work. You can refuse it but then the govt kicks you out of unemployment benefits. So... the govt thinks driving cars is an acceptable risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 07:13 AM
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The point was that if your life depends on killing someone you'd probably do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 07:10 AM
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If somebody truly has BPD and wasn't trend-diagnosed as BPD you'll notice it very quickly. It's a severe mental illness. A lot of people have the diagnosis that shouldn't because the bunch of asshole psychiatrists choose to ignore the DSM/ICD criteria and diagnose stuff they aren't supposed to. Players are easy to spot if you have decent social skills and emotional intelligence. Players and BPDs are very charming and maybe hot which is why lots of people in need fall for that and ignore the doze…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 07:09 AM
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Sounds romantic...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 07:01 AM
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... as if outliers change anything. For every disabled person with a gf there are 4 that don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 07:00 AM
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Wasn't there a story about a woman cheating on her husband for some stupid reasons? There's probably one every day. How tf are men to trust their wives? How am I supposed to know that the nice man I married won’t end up being a sociopath in 20 years? You don't. NOBODY DOES. We just pick one and hope for the best and deal with shit that comes along. That's all we can do and YOU need to start accepting this. Life has risks. People change.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 07:33 PM
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The only scientific claim I've seen for this comes from Maslow's hierarchy of needs which has been criticised for not having much real scientific backing at all. For some reason it still gets taught in schools (or it did when I was in school anyway) but it's received plenty of criticism from actual psychologists. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/6509274/ would be a low-ish study but it's not the only one. There's also a ton of indirect evidence such as suicide victims being more often singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 07:04 PM
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normal male sexual nature is rape. ..?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 04:26 PM
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Pretty sure "love" (sex, companionship, intimacy) is a universally accepted need - not a want. so men better stop bitching about sex because the problem is in them. No. That's not how humans work. Humans are not solitary animals. They are social and they have social needs. Deprive them of this and they get mentally ill. Maybe some problems make it hard to get sex but that changes nothing about the fact that no sex is a problem in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 04:24 PM
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Let's look at another example. Let's assume all women make wrong rape accusations. Is that a good mantra? Of course nobody really believes this but for practical purposes just don't hire or talk to any woman. You don't need to be a genius to see the problem there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 04:18 PM
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Is it irrational to be afraid of getting hit by a falling plane? The planes are up there, they could fall, the could injure you. Thus: Totally rational fear. The "irrational" in "irrational fear" refers to exaggerating the probability of the event or the severity of the outcome. It doesn't mean the fear isn't "rational" as in "based on logic". You're more likely to die in a traffic accident than getting raped. But it's generally considered that the risk of injury due to car accidents is so low t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 04:15 PM
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All humans are murderers. If you have two people with food for one we'd all probably fight and kill for that food. Does it make sense to walk around with the mantra "all humans are murderers"? Yes - if there's an utter shortage of food. No, if people have no reason to murder. Murder is currently not a worthy trade. You might get caught and locked up for what? Stealing 100 bucks? Does it make sense to walk around with the mantra "all men are rapists"? Yes - if the only way to get sex is rape and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 04:06 PM
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The point is: what are you trying to say with "average"? For "average" human 95% make somewhat sense as it includes everything except outliers. Does an average man turn bald? Some do... some don't. But what about average men? What is the difference between a 28y old virgin man and a 28y old non-virgin man? Both have friends, hobbies, go out, social groups, earn enough to make a living, work out, dress appropriately, etc... so are both average men or not? Not in terms of N count but otherwise? Ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 02:47 PM
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I don't know. But if incidence of disorders are higher than in the past then SOMETHING must cause that rise. societal problems do you suspect to be a cause Singlehood certainly contributes imo. Humans need emotional and physical intimacy and if 27% lack this... then we already have a problem right there. Maybe it's time for singles' bars and stuff. Or events specifically for singles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:25 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:47 PM
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like go to the gym, eat right, take up some interesting hobbies, and learn how to talk to people without sounding like a weirdo will just be met with confrontation. belongs to a bunch of social and hobby groups, has a group of friends, goes out every weekend 99.9...% of incels do that. This stereotype of an incel being a social recluse unfit weirdo not capable of doing adult things is a total myth. Sure, some 0.01% of incels might fit that description. r/incels, r/femcels are not representative …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:28 PM
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She's a moron. Ok. People will adapt to this. Dating multiple women, lieing about wanting relationships etc. At worst you're just reinforcing the problem you were trying to get rid of. But... maybe this is truly the nash equilibrium: both lie and cheat and abuse to compensate for the other persons lying, cheating and abusing. Here's how you find a guy: pick a good, average, regular man, see if you both enjoy each other, fuck, marry, die old. Easy. I really don't get women complaining about playe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:15 PM
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But social anxiety and behavioural disorders like Asperger's are either more prevalent than they were in the past, or seem to be more prevalent Yes, but disorders don't magically appear. They are caused by something - even though psychiatry wants us to believe otherwise for monetary and narcissistic gains. Mental disorders don't magically exist. If they are more prevalent now then either through environmental toxins, malnutrition or societal problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:05 PM
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Sure, but you need to look at the bigger picture. Any psychologist will tell you that reproduction/sex is a basic need and not fulfilling basic needs inevitably leads to mental health problems. If 27% of men can not fulfill basic needs this is a huge problem. Both financially (MH is expensive to treat and no drug fixes "lack of sex" AND depression &co. don't help because who wants to date a depressed person? This is how you get chronic long term depressed people which costs us millions and milli…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 09:55 AM
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Meh. Of course women rate men on a scale. They just use words instead of numbers. It doesn't matter what ways you use to express a rating the important thing is the rating. Whether you say masculine face, tall, broad shoulders and a cute smile or whether you say he's an A or he's 8/10 doesn't matter.. you're doing the exact same thing: you're rating someone's looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 09:35 AM
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down on her and refuses to do things to make her orgasm so she cheats on him twice a month. So... that's not reasonable adult behaviour. She should rather terminate the relationship or be open about it to her husband. And work on her personality. Funnily enough this is exactly the kind of woman I wouldn't because there's a significant risk of STDs. If I were to go down I'd need to know that she's STD free AND doesn't sleep around (because obviously then you don't know whether she's STD free anym…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 12:10 PM
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I'm obviously trying to. Online dating is just a side-plan. I seem to only have success when I live with women (flat mates) because then they can actually see my character and stuff. Otherwise it's just an ugly dude you don't want to be approached by.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 10:50 AM
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By rich I don't mean millionaire. I mean more than 2.5x the amount of money the livable minimum would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 10:13 AM
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No, but you don't have to be deformed. Let's put it another way: 6 years of online dating 3 matches, 19 likes across 3 different dating. Out of hundred thousands of women 19 would theoretically give me a shot. One match resulted in two dates but I felt no chemistry so I didn't go on a third date. I dated one other women. You don't need to be deformed - just bottom 5% or something. You know - nobody is looking for bottom 5% .. neither women nor men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 09:54 AM
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Yeah...me! I'd delete the crap out of toxic behaviours so hard this sub would get boring fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 10:17 PM
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Well - I always say that as long as you're a healthy non-obese woman you're chances of being a "dream woman" is >97%. The single most stupid thing you can do is not eating "healthy" (whether obesity is healthy is an ongoing debate but "eat healthy" is a well established phrase). You're born attractive and you'll grow up visually attractive if you eat a standard diet recommened by current research. The next stupid thing is not exercise. It has been well established that sitting all day long all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 10:03 PM
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If you didn’t care about status, you’d LTR any random chick. But isn't that exactly the case? Excluding obesity, terminal cancer and such...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 09:40 PM
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So.... maybe as a trend I can see that. On the other hand there are lots of singles studying and working in research or trying to improve things (politics) without any women telling them to. I'm super ugly. Fit af but super ugly. There aren't even any women who'd fuck me. None. And yet I managed to study and work in research and advocate for equality and a mental health reform and there's not a single woman nagging me or pushing me to do that whatsoever. It's not even on my radar. I'm rich, I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 09:32 PM
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They are just labels for different subtypes/personas. There are so many labels one applies to every person - that's the whole point of having such a classification system. It is a system to more accurately describe people other than "I like men/women".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 06:42 PM
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attractiveness that is attractive to 70-90% We call them models I guess? You should ask this question in a male model sub or something
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 05:48 PM
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What the...?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 05:42 PM
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Isn't an alpha by definition red pill? What's a blue pilled alpha?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 05:40 PM
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28m. Preferably 25. 22 would be the absolute minimum. 31 would be maximum. TL/DR: +-3y.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 05:38 PM
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Switzerland
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 04:01 PM
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Projecting what onto what? Do people here even know what the term means or do you guys just build this into every reply to a comment you don't like? Every man has a mating strategy. Sure. If going out is a mating strategy then yes. Everything is a strategy. It just doesn't make sense to refer to common sense as strategies. A strategy deserving being called strategy should be much more elaborate than common standard behaviour. Men by and large do not "fall into" a relationship or "dip their feet …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 03:12 PM
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Alright. Fine. Let's engage in this. ​ > They use Becky as a bang maid and to pay their rent in their 20's. ​ Uhm.. what? Scenario 1 is guy goes through obligatory school then through a 3-4 year apprenticeship and at 19-20 is done with the apprenticeship and earns somewhere between 3200-6500 per month. 3200 is not much, but the livable minimum in my country is 2500 (called the Existenzminimum). This sounds really harsh but the livable minimum is more than enough to live a good life. More than en…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 09:46 AM
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It's super rare for a man to smile at another strange man and engage him in conversation the way men and woman interact Yeah, so? They communicate differently with wo en than men, sure - but that doesn't imply sexual interest at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 10:42 PM
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because men are not friendly with woman ... Smiling, taking an interest in the conversation and remembering little things is not a sign of sexual interest in woman the way it is in men. ... Seriously? Your view of men is fucked up. Super fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 09:49 PM
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It's part of the graysexual spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 09:32 PM
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I think this is called reciprosexual or something. It's a subcategory where sexual attraction relies on reciprocation: you're mostly only attracted if she makes it clear she's attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 05:52 PM
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I've leaned more towards red based on responses women here have made. That said my mantra is still "every person is an individual" and you shouldn't make premature assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 05:49 PM
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I don't know but in my country we have these laws: a.) Each must give as he/she can b.) Both have the right to the same standard of living. c.) Couples are kinda a single entity. He doesn't have control of the money, nor property. He doesn't even have income - the couple has income.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 10:05 AM
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I consider this a non-issue and couples are responsible for setting their own boundaries and rules. Or put it otherwise. If I open the door for her and she thinks it's sweet... that's fine. If she says she doesn't like it... that's fine. If she starts pulling sexism cards and stuff (aka not being reasonable) - I'd consider terminating the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 10:00 AM
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Porn is a poor replacement, yes. And yes it's kinda both but I'd argue intimacy is more important for mental health than just sex. I doubt it's the problem - I see it as a compensation mechanism. After years of neglect porn probably is the only feasible option left and the closest they can get to intimacy. It's like a heroin addict due to pain. The problem is the pain - the heroin is just a side-effect but it's not the root problem and once you're a heroin addict things get worse and worse and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 09:53 AM
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Incels lack intimacy and love - not just sex. It's not about the sex - it's about intimacy and love. Assuming incels is about sex is a misunderstanding of human nature. Relationships aren't just about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 09:22 PM
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Pff. 'ye olde myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 07:09 PM
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ONS from tinder definitely means you're hot. That's the only relevant threshold for hot imo. Although this comes from a guy with 1 match every other year (and no - that's not a joke - those are actual true numbers).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 06:56 PM
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Hobbies > Job. That's all I have to say about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 06:51 PM
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After seeing all these articles by 30-40 year old women writers, I've realized that it really is fucking hard out here for them. Dating is easiest when you're young and do a lot of stuff with other people and partying and all that. Once you hit 30 you have established usually mostly same sex social circles. This makes it hard. 30 year old singles don't hang around in bars etc. and don't party all night long anymore. Places to approach others get rarer the older you get. This is age. Not gender. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 06:18 PM
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Maybe TRP thinks this. I'm not part of TRP so I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 07:14 AM
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Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 07:04 AM
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Uhm? How does this disprove 80/20. It says it right in the text: As you can see from the gray line, women rate an incredible 80% of guys as worse-looking than medium. That's the 80/20 rule. The 80/20 rule is scoped to looks. Messaging is not relevant for the 80/20 rule. Yes, evidently women message below average guys but that changes nothing about the 80/20 rule: 80% of women only find 20% of guys visually attractive. That's the only 80/20 definition I've heard of.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 08:21 PM
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I find that men/women aren't that different in that regard. Looks is like 20% of attraction, the rest is behaviour and objective things. They value different behaviours differently but the percentage of how much looks matter isn't significantly different in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 06:08 PM
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preferences have almost been forced I find forced to be the wrong word. It enables women to be more superficial but it's not forced. Increasing supply doesn't force you to be more picky - it enables you to be more picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 06:02 PM
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Would you date someone taller than you? Would you approach someone taller than you? Maybe, maybe not. Depends on her personality. But I'd prefer a shorter one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 10:25 AM
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Of course men reject women based on height too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 10:21 AM
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Where do you live and which social circles do you hang out in? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_sex_ratio Most countries have more men than women (<65y). The US is a notable exception. It has nothing to do with infantcide - it's about birth ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 04:48 PM
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Most countries do have more men than women below 65y. It's a result of birth rate. There's more boys being born. The US is an exception by having a 1:1 ratio. Most countries have 1.02-1.05:1.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 04:45 PM
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How is rejecting somebody sexist? You don't discriminate based on gender thus it isn't sexism. Neither of those two things you said are sexism. That's lookism - not sexism. SEXism -> sex (aka gender). LOOKism -> looks (aka appearance).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 04:42 PM
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Is working out authentic? Looks is a different category. Buying better clothes? Different category. Learning how to talk with confidence to the opposite sex? Depends. PUA probably isn't authentic. Getting an attractive haircut? Different category.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 07:21 AM
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So making an effort to attract the opposite sex is inauthentic? If you're playing a role instead of being yourself then yes, obviously. The point is as soon as you try to make an effort you're orienting yourself what stupid magazines, movies or stupid other people tell you. At that point you're a sheep falling prey to stereotypical norms and biases - instead of being yourself. Why is makeup a different category? Because it's not behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 07:15 AM
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Not if you do it intentionally. If you flirt without intentionally flirting then it's authentic. Makeup is a different category.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 10:39 PM
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Isn't that obvious? If I want to be an olympic swimmer I'd have low self-esteem too. If I want to be an average swimmer I wouldn't. Self-esteem is about goals. If women are only happy with their appearance if they can attract an 8/10 or something then surely they're more insecure about their looks because they set themselves unrealistic standards. Just pick any online women citing "this is the beauty standard set by men". Nope, we didn't set that. You've just picked the standard the top 10% of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 10:32 PM
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If you're not authentic then you're playing games. That's my definition of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 10:16 PM
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What do you mean by game? Isn't it enough if they are reasonable adults and are into you? (Can communicate, not too clingy, not too distant, no shit testing, smart enough to do some basic research on certain topics, can do adult stuff (finances, houshold chores, basic govt stuff))
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 10:12 PM
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Depends on what you mean by friendzoned. Friendzoned may mean she considers you a friend but keeps using your ambition for more to her advantage. Textbook case is the girl in the Forest Gump movie. This implies it is an unequal relationship. She's not a true friend - she's a pseudo-friend. She'll terminate the friendship if she finds a better mate - or she'll eventually date you if she ran out of options/time. If you get fuckzoned without knowing I agree this surely sucks a lot. If you get fuckz…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 10:06 PM
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Why wouldn't there be women who fuckzone men? FWB.. he hopes for more... she doesn't want more -> guy is in the fuckzone. She fucks him but doesn't want a relationship: fuckzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 10:06 PM
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...?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 07:30 PM
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Is it possible for a woman to view men as human beings and form bonds rather than focusing on his looks and the number of women he has dated/had sex with? Is it possible for a woman to view men as human beings and form bonds rather than focusing on his status, job, money? If you figure out the answers to these two questions you'll figure out the answer to your questions yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 07:24 PM
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Yeah - but there has never been a time where there were enough jobs for everybody during my lifetime. It might be 4% some year, 7% in a bad year and 2% in a good year but a lot of people will still be unemployed. City with 100k people, 2k will be unemployed and you might know one or the other of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 05:43 PM
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I'd say the more a women is interested in me the more I am in her and I believe this to be true for a lot of men - thus I keep telling women that it's fine if they don't want to initiate if you're honest about it. "I don't like to initiate" is a perfectly acceptable statement/position but "I don't like to initiate because men think I'm too easy/men run away/..." is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 12:59 PM
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What is this question supposed to even be?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 10:42 AM
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Most of my friends work of course. rest of them? Why can't they work? No jobs available.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 08:59 AM
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So then you admit that the story that women are simply ignoring the boards of good men out there is a bullshit lie because there is a shortage of good men. A.) Don't talk like that. "I like the color red." "Ah, so you admit that blue is a stupid color". Don't do this. Please. It doesn't work anyway. Nobody lets you put words into their mouth just like that. He/she may think that - but you have no grounds to say what they admit to and what not. B.) Even if this reflects his/her opinion doesn't ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 09:13 PM
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If there are so many good men that I am ignoring and squandering away my youth by not marrying, then why are their standards so high? Because there is a shortage of good men. Men have high standards because there's a shortage of good men? Good men are numerous. Where's the shortage? Just in my social circle I'd have a dozen of decent men with decent income that are currently single. Not a single one of them is bad. Sure, some of them are on disability benefits (he was in a coma but can partially…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 08:54 PM
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It's clearly a trend, but what I'm curious about is why some young men are so blind to women's roles in society. They are not blind. They simply demand equality. They are just being "feminists" basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 06:38 PM
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What woman asks about penis size? Just ditch any that does - those are creepy women or pick one of the usual dumb responses "why don't you see for yourself"/"i don't know"/"large enough"/"it's big. Not much big. Such big. Wow."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 11:51 AM
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All of these questions are so hard to answer. I don't know how I'll feel emotionally if this would happen to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 09:08 AM
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I'd do whatever is best for my own mental health. I can't foretell the future. All I can say is I'd want to keep in contact with my children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 09:05 AM
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Symbiotic relationships is a keyword you might be intersted in googling. Opposites can attract because they can create symbiotic relationships. Although in this case you'd like the behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 09:11 PM
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What I hate the most is people making premature assumptions about my personality based on something I say. Or thinking I have opinions I didn't state. This is honestly the worst level of discussion. At that point I'll just point it out and move on. I get it - sometimes when I'm very frustrated I might do that too but there's just no point arguing with someone who's emotional. Humans are prone to biases. You can for example say "no, guys don't run away because you initiated they run away because …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 09:09 PM
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Thots is instagram models?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 06:36 PM
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No, it isn't. You can't expect random people to supply you with peer reviewed published results. I see this sub as an exchange of experiences. I try to give women here some male perspective as neutral as I can based on my personal experiences and observations in the hope it will open an eye now and then. I never have peer reviewed published results for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 06:34 PM
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And redpill merely classifies and labels behaviours using ghetto language instead of academic language. It's basically psychology for dummies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 10:20 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 10:09 AM
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So? Doctors don't invent diseases, they just classify and label them. The diseases existed long before they were classified and labeled. Of course RP didn't invent those behaviours. Feminism didn't invent the idea of equal rights. All those things are just LABELS. What exactly is your issue with these labels?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 10:08 AM
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He's not exhibiting RP behaviour, he's exhibiting behaviours that RP happens to talk about. What the hell is this logic? That's like saying he doesn't exhibit parkinsonism, he's exhibiting stuff doctors talk about. Or he's not blind, he just happens to have no vision. You really just don't like the label RP for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 10:02 AM
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If it's attractive to women then it's RP. That's the definition of RP. If ANY behaviour is attractive to women then it's redpill behaviour. Same thing as feminism. If you advocate for womens' rights then it's feminism. Pure and simple. You can still do it without calling yourself feminist but in the eyes of others you are a feminist then. If it's attractive then it's RP. Pure and simple. You can call it "not red pill" but in the eyes of others it is redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 09:55 AM
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Not in the combination. The pill works. Thus if horse shit had any negative effect it is outweight by the other ingredients. Also, horse shit might hurt in isolation but acts as a catalysator for the other ingredients. In essence you'd have to run many clinical trials on the power set (the power set is the set containing all subsets) of all the ingredients. Even so if we apply this to humans you might not like some trait in another person but this what spices things up. Maybe otherwise it would …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 09:47 AM
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Of course. Talking behind someone's back wouldn't solve anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 09:40 AM
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Oh. There are two definitions of discrimination apparentely. In the case of sexism I mean discrimination in the sense of disadvantage/unfair not merely a difference in behaviour. In the german language the word refers to penalize/treat worse/degrade somebody. Merely treating somebody different but not worse is something we wouldn't call discrimination in common parlance. You wouldn't say Hi Misses Smith to a men with the name smith so misses/mister are discriminating words but I mean obviously t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 10:03 PM
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No, but at least horse shit doesn't hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 07:47 PM
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If it's within reason why not? Things change. Maybe it wasn't a big deal back then but now it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 06:32 PM
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But it's a cultural perception that men will want to sleep with any woman. Nah. Any reasonable adult knows this isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 03:13 PM
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That's why I restrict Feminism to issues of rights and opportunities to not mix things together that don't belong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 12:32 PM
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Ignorance is bliss but I'd want to know it for the sake of STDs. No sex until HIV and other STD screenings are reliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 12:30 PM
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So.. She has the right to sleep with somebody and complain about traits of that person. You can also complain about your wife - even though you married her but you don't lose the right to complain. At some point you gotta close the case though. However, I do agree that if something bothers you this much then you've made a poor decision sleeping with him. Presumably he's super hot and she hopes for him to change for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 10:52 AM
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that success is caused by many factors you all added at the same time and thinking that all of them are then true is fallacious. Isolation of variable is primordial Sure.. you don't know which factor contributes how much but is this really relevant? If it works it works. If you find that a pill with 3 ingredients cures cancer it's a very good and very useful pill even though it is not yet understood how these ingredients work together.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 10:47 AM
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No. It isn't. It's very simple. Is saying "you'd be prettier if you smile more" discriminating against a particular group? If no .. then it ain't sexism. Sexism requires discrimination against a gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 10:40 AM
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Maybe. But! You have to be aware that most approaches and dating doesn't work - for either party. Concluding that he ran away because you "chased" is not necessarily correct. It's a premature assumption made on partially pre-existing biases. Even young girls with no such experiences often already have the idea that it's him that must do the chasing - which is a social norm - but it says little about how guys actually tick. Men might as well conclude that approaching women doesn't work because it…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 10:38 AM
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Nothing? Sure, if you leave me 18 messages that's "too eager" or if you constantly follow me around like a dog that's "too eager" but with a bit of common sense there's no way you can be too eager. Maybe if you approach with already talking in detail about our marriage when we're still strangers that's "too eager".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 10:31 AM
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Humans ARE animals. We are just one of many species on the planet. Other than that I can't gauge what your actual question is. It feels like you're trying to make this leap: Animals feel hunger. Men feel hunger. Men are animals. Men have no agency about what they eat. And you know that this is obviously flawed. We all HAVE TO eat but we still have a lot of choice. If you want to be a reasonable adult you'll have to start accepting that while men have to have sex it doesn't mean they have no choi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 10:25 AM
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Kinda. Not always but at times. Either through being cheated on or being dumped for being "too nice". Generally at some point some men learn that emotionally investing into women is bad (through experiences) - just leads to disappointment. They still have a desire for sex so they feel like "I can play this game too" and start caring as much about women as women care about men (based on their perception) which results in a player attitude. But yes. I don't think boys grow up with this attitude. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 08:17 AM
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It is possible but it requires you to have self-reflection skills, the ability to consider other people's perspective and a strong self (= don't feel pressured by others, don't buy into celeb/insta lifestyles etc.). This requires a well-balanced secure personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 08:08 AM
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Your comment is so insanely stupid and full of prejudice I'm not even going to bother to write a serious response to it. Take your hatred of men somewhere else or at least make the effort to try to discuss on an adult level.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 07:16 AM
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Women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of commitment and stability. But isn't commitment basically for free? If you take the view that you get men to commit through sex if you control the sex you get commitment for free? In my male brain you're the future mother of my children (sounds creepy but big news: sex is for making babies. We can trick our brains with preservatives but the fundamental drive is still babies in my opinion) so commitment happens long before sex. You don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 08:14 PM
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Addendum And yes I'm aware that you also lose some time but you're the delaying party so that's "your fault". You could also reduce that risk by not delaying. It depends on what you're willing to risk. Of course if you love him and sex is bad there's also the option to make it better together over time. If you put out early that's bad for men who're not that good in bed yet because if you screen for that first then there's no mutual improving out of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 04:02 PM
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You essentially want women to give it up right away. No, I don't. How would I have wasted his time See.. I mean... do you even consider other people's perspective? The lack of insight lots of women here have into men and their inability to see the other perspective is pathetic. You've "wasted" his time because he invested, was patient and serious about it and had strong feelings. This time could've been saved by having sex earlier. The power game is that you strive for a certain status "at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 03:49 PM
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I understand that they deem it necessary to play her games? In RP it's her playing him, but I don't hang around in TRP so my knowledge about that demographic is essentially zero. I just read RP articles so I'm at least minimally familiar but from what I've read so far it isn't too far off. No man wants to play shit test games but they kinda have to. I find power games inherently stupid but if women force me to do it you can't really blame me for participating. My goal is to have children and be …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 01:09 PM
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Yeah - at least you get the boost of knowing you wasted his time. Women and their power games is something my male brain will never understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 09:14 AM
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Yes, and no. The inherent problem is we can"t know each others intention. She or he might just be after quick sex, FWB or other secondary gains. You'll never know. If women put out early they are vulnerable to men looking for sex only. If men put out early they are vulnerable to women looking for sex only. If men are willing to let her delay sex they become vulnerable to golddigging or similar behaviours. She might just string you along for something. If women delay sex for too long he might bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 09:03 AM
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Red pill is just modern terminology for what people knew since the dawn of humanity. It's just a different wording.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 02:05 PM
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I would if she's able to accept that I wouldn't be with her if I wouldn't consider her attractive within a reasonable amount of time. I'm not going to be her therapist though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 01:56 PM
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I have to say I'd want to spend some time with a woman to get to know her before I'm willing to go the sex route. Sex has its risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 01:53 PM
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Tough one. You might argue that most crimes are worse than murder because dead people don't feel pain - as far as we know. Based on this perspective murder isn't bad at all - as long as it's quick and painless. However, you're taking away someones brother, daughter, wife, husband, friend, etc. forever. Based on this perspective it's a very bad crime. Rape is horrible but you may overcome the trauma and you're still there to love others and be loved by others. I thus consider murder to be worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 12:41 PM
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I think one issue is that "value" is a lose concept. You can blame everything on value. It just depends on your perspective. Your teacher didn't give you an A? You have less value than somebody getting a B. Value is always context specific. In the context of relationship value is what makes the other person stay with you. Thus, by definition, if she leaves you it's because you were low value and somebody else had higher value. This is just a definition. You can call it value, charisma or whateve…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 10:29 PM
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As far as I'm concerned this data more than justifies any gender biases in sentencing sex offenders. Thoughts? ​ No, it doesn't. But it would also introduce gender bias into the law which is something I'm strictly against. It just goes against my human bones or something (if that is a proper english saying). First you'd have to prove a link between the length of incarceration and recidivism rate. There's no point in sentencing men 13.4 longer if it doesn't change the recidivism rate. All you hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 10:16 PM
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She's bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 04:53 PM
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Male. Why would I want to sleep with her if I don't like her? The only reason would be to gain sexual experience so the sex with the woman I actually like doesn't scare her away but that's really the only reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 04:47 PM
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Cheating is inevitable. It might be different if average life expectancy is 30 but since we live so long now cheating is probably just inevitable. It might also be because people are afraid of the "sex has been kinda boring lately" talk? But I don't think humans have it in them to fuck the same person for 20 years and never wanting change.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 04:43 PM
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It is very simple. IF being natural (what some women here have claimed is what they want) is based on behaviour THEN there's no such thing as a skilled imitator. There's no difference between a born concert pianist and a layperson who learned to play the piano and plays on a concert level. They are both concert pianists. "Naturals" is used as a silly scapegoat by those women. At best they might prefer a born concert pianist over a learned concert pianist which seems silly but at least that's sou…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 04:37 PM
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You don't usually date a 20 year old as a 35 year old guy. She won't be on your level emotionally and practically. And a 20 year old women probably wouldn't either. It could happen - I just don't see this practically happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 04:26 PM
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No. You are being compared to the local competition. If you earn a 1000 buck a year women in your country would probably not touch you even if you earn more than what 30% make in their lifetime (not actual numbers, just a demonstration). High value means: local people value you. And they will use local standards. 1000 bucks is super rich in some regions - in others it doesn't even buy food for a month. The only thing you could is say: Go to (country) and you'd be high value there. But yeah... lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 02:12 PM
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Does their attractiveness matter? Nope. Are your standards for male friends different than for female friends? Hard to say. It's a different kind of friendship because you guy she girl. But these women that want to insert themselves into your life, text you, have deep talks and hug you after, write really FRIENDLY things all over your social media.... are there any men that have the insight to let them go? To cut them off? Do you not realize that this is a hindrance in a romantic relationship? W…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 02:08 PM
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Harsh.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 02:04 PM
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This is something I might agree with. Girls: just approach guys. It's so worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 02:02 PM
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I mean... in a sense.. sure. But there are lots of nuances and factors. I wouldn't recommend plastic surgery if you're 5/10. Not worth the risk. 5/10 is fine, work on other things instead. If at any point he decides he wants to stop and have kids, he can Sure, if he can find a young fertile woman with his age, yes, he can. Maybe until forties if you find a woman at age 30, or 35 but the risk of infertility at 35 is significantly there. This gives men 5 years more to sleep around. That's somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 02:00 PM
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Pff. Hollywood actresses aren't more beautiful than 30% of women you see on the street. Excluding obese women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 08:26 PM
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Candy isn't dumb - she's infantile or way more than dumb or both. I'm so tired of these questions. There's one thing and one thing only you as a woman need to know: I'd rather date the girl who enjoys me and is into me than the girl who isn't. This is the only thing that matters if you're above ugly. Not make-up, not shoes, not hair, not nails, not academic degreee, not profession, not weight, ... (Some exceptions of course.).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 08:13 PM
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Those are not the only forms of objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 08:08 PM
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the man could easily overpower the woman and stop it. I wanna see you fight a woman who has pepper spray or tasers - as they routinely do - or even guns. Any woman could easily overpower a man. This whole thing is imo non-sense in a world where women carry weapons.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 08:07 PM
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No woman ever puts is that way. Well, yeah. It's a mentality, not something they'd say.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 08:03 PM
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Yep. I'm not a huge fan of premature assumptions. I prefer to get to know people first.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 05:54 PM
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Ok, that is a silly argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 05:52 PM
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Well, we don't think about sex 24/7. We frequently do - but not 24/7 and most is just thoughts like "damn she's beautiful", "whoa cute butt". man actually approaches just to be friends -- they all want sex secretly. Yeah I mean men want sex but that doesn't mean it's the primary reason for everything .. but we wouldn't mind if it leads to more. the men who insist that they don't "only want sex" ever get frustrated when other men insist that they do, as it enforces a male stereotype that not ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 10:54 AM
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BMI of 16 is grounds for an involuntary admission into psychiatric care - just so you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 07:11 AM
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No. Regular hetero guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 06:48 AM
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Is left the 'no' side?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 06:47 AM
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I wouldn't date a woman who thinks I'd buy her dinner in exchange for sex. I'd also rather pass an opportunity for sex than sleep with a creepy woman. If I sense that she's waiting for me to "win her over" then I'm out too. It's not really an advantageous strategy but I'm just not into those sorts of women. I'm more the cooperative kind of person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 06:29 PM
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Example context?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 06:21 PM
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you're not informing anyone with this information. So? all women know this, whether or not they live by it is their choice. Then there would be no reason to make a fuss. Making a fuss about this is like making a big fuss about the gillette ad. No new information in there for most people. People are too much on the edge for nothing. A gal cites her dating standards? Not my problem. A guy citing his dating standards? Not my problem. There's nothing misandristic or mysogyinistic about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 06:13 PM
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If you seek a LTR guy you'll find one without spinning plates. Basic social skills. I don't see how this would be difficult. No down-to-earth woman I know had any trouble with this - besides the usual 2-3x 3-6 month relationships everybody has when young but imo that doesn't count as cock carousel?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 03:05 PM
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Three options: They have fun doing it and/or they want to find the guy with the best sexual performance and/or they have committment issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 02:39 PM
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Online dating is a no-go if you're not 7+ in looks. Women want the same thing as you: a quality partner. We just have different ideas about what 'quality' means. Women just want to fulfill their desires. No point in hating them for it - we do the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 02:35 PM
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Same reasons women slut shame men for going to prostitutes would be my guess. I don't personally do it - but imo that's why women are slut shamed. Sexual history isn't something I care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 02:27 PM
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Yeah... So? That doesn't mean the spending is necessary. Just because men spend more on beer and video games doesn't mean that they inevitably have to. It doesn't imply that something is inherently more expensive. If you have a study comparing bare minimum costs - that would provide useful data. A study asking people how much they spend only tells you how much they spend - not how much they would have to spend. We have to be careful. You can't just extrapolate data from a study to mean something…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 02:22 PM
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Mental disorders are special. They are just labels given to constellation of symptoms. They are incredibly common - but unless it leads to signficant occupational or social impairement they aren't diagnosed. Performance anxiety is quite common among students - but it rarely meets the threshold for a psych visit. Sexual performance anxiety isn't a pathological outlier. Virgin guy not getting his dick hard the first time due to nervousness? Not pathological but it's still an anxiety issue. You wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 02:16 PM
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Surely. But I'd wear something different each time too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 01:57 PM
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Are you refering to me or him? Either way no point throwing insults around.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 10:57 AM
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Obviously. Otherwise there wouldn't be relationships that break or don't start due to bad sex. If you can pass or fail then it's an exam, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 09:55 AM
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Maybe a different angle works. A knows that if the sex is bad he's off the table because there's a good chance she has no interest in a relationship if the sex is bad. This is very similar to exam anxiety because sex IS an exam here. You perform - she decides pass or fail. Porn has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 08:37 AM
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course this bizarre "oh my God am I doing it like I'm in a porn" and even weirder "am I licking this bean enough" weirdness has to do with porn. Sure. But that's not what most cases of performance anxiety are about. People aren't dumb. Most know porn is "unrealistic".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 08:20 AM
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That's a scape goat? Issues with sex? Must be porn and obesity. Porn addiction certainly plays a role in some cases but it's hardly the dominant factor. Usually it leads to desensitation and ED - not SPA and PE. It's worrying about being good enough in bed for her (or him) that is the dominant factor and porn doesn't really make people worry about that. Hearing women complain about bad performance is more relevant. It leads to thoughts like "if so many guys suck in bed... What if I'm bad? Is it …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 08:13 AM
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If it were this easy then sexual performance anxiety wouldn't be a clinical entity as well as premature ejaculation issues. Driving a car is much easier than sex. Sex is hard... it's just that you start early with beginners and get better together increasing your skill. You'd probably think different if you were a 40 year old virgin trying to please a woman within that age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 07:59 AM
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I'd agree with your wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 07:56 AM
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Sure. But most people aren't afraid of unknown diseases. Or even known. Otherwise you'd never go swimming anymore as there might be flesh eating bacteria in there. only caution in regards to counts, ones own and others, offers even a little bit of protection against that. If you want to be safe be a virgin dating a virgin. That's the only way then - except as mentioned STDs are diseases that can be transmitted through other forms of contact as well - holding hands is technically enough to potent…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 07:54 AM
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Jocks don't exist here. Our school cult is different. Everything else said about popular kids is true however. One easy way to get popular is to start bullying the kids the popular kids bully.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 09:58 PM
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The other things are fine.. but socially developed? That sounds like some form of wrong attribution bias. I don't live in the US but judging on movies jocks are usually the opposite of charismatic - at least by a man's standard. They bully, they are abusive and egocentric. However, it might be that women don't notice this and see related behaviours as charismatic where an outside (male) observer would consider this abusive. Back to real life: In school popular boys are popular because they oppre…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 08:52 PM
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I never thought of "hard to get" as a favorable strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 08:41 PM
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No, but you don't know anyway whether your partner is honest about his/her sexual history. Testing is all we have. Or contracted an STD through non-sexual activities which is possible even though doctors say no but they say no to not cause panic. Even condomns don't magically make transmission impossible. Certain STDs don't really care about the condomn too much. It basically only prevents male liquid to leak - but not hers. Testing is your best shot and only option.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 08:39 PM
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400 english pounds is 520 bucks here. Dress shirt for 30... forget it.. not around here. If you wear a dress on a date you can wear the same dress... unless you date the same guy all the time. Realistically you neither need a suit nor dress to a date. Jeans and shirt is enough for both gender. And the prices for those are fairly equal. I don't buy that a woman's wardrobe is more expensive. You can easily buy 8 dresses for the price of one suit. 7 dress shirts is 420 bucks or 560 british pounds. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 08:17 PM
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Do you really think women care about cars? Depends on their age and personality. Certainly not anymore after 25ish. Or can even identify a fancy men's watch as opposed to an okay-looking one from Swatch? (I know, I know, men don't actually like expensive things, it's all to get women. Sigh.) No, unless they see "rolex" written on it... everybody knows rolex. And do you actually think that a decent-looking men's wardrobe costs more than its female counterpart? This... actually.. Yep. A decent ves…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 03:52 PM
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There are expenses men aren't aware of and you named a few. However I don't agree with these: Hair appointments For me: yes. I buy a hair cutting machine once and trim everything to 4mm which costs nothing. If I had hair and beard I'd spend a hundred per week if I wanted to look like a soccer player or "stylish". It all depends on what your own target is. A simple male hair trim is 30 bucks. Styling hair and beard like male models is way more. Nail appointments Buy a nail cutter and trim the nai…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 03:41 PM
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Yeah but then my answer would be a useless "depends". Some people have co-morbid infantility and are 12 year olds in 30 year old bodies and that's a clear "No" then. Others are indifferent or even repulsed by sex so that's a "No" too. If they can't stop talking that's probably a "No". The term Asperger is just an umbrella term given to patients but the presentation is very heterogenous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 11:50 AM
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You make good points but we should agree on stopping this and agree that comming up with an accurate figure while possible requires a lot effort and research and at least I neither have the time nor will to do this. Not all prisoners for example are excluded from dating. Low security prisoners can have visitation rights or may even leave prisons for a few hours. Even high security prisoners still have visitation rights unless they are batshit dangerous. Then you have asexuals, trans, polymorous …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 09:27 AM
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That 2% is a WIDE range - much wider than 15-24. That's 9 years versus 30 years. It doesn't mean there are 5% more men at 24 and suddenly it drops to 2% as if suddenly a lot of men die at 25. The ratio at 25 is likely the same as it is at 24. This is misreading statistics. It is true that in EU countries it's not 7% at 25-55. It's between 2-4% but again.. this includes also 35-55. During first marriage age it's probably closer to the value of 15-24y than to the value of 25-55y. Similarly well kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 09:31 PM
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The diagnosis alone means nothing. It's overused either for billing, sympathy or it's diagnosed too late or even to get disability because you can't get disability for depression so psychistrists make up co-morbid disorders to help people get disability. Even if the diagnosis is technically correct it doesn't give somebody a picture of what this person is. It doesn't say a lot about the personality of a patient. Psychiatrists fight over whether somebody has it or not. You should ask a more speci…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 09:20 PM
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It applies to EU countries. I don't know why it doesn't for the US. And 25-55 is a huge range. For dating with the aim of "family forming" 20-35 would be the more relevant range anyway. It's not like this is only the case in "countries nobody heard of". It's a general phenomenom. Also.. I don't know other redditors country of origi n I'm afraid. But anyway. You could do it like this: A wants B or C. B wants A or C. C wants A or B. D wants A or B. So you'll have CA or CB. If you pick CA you can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 09:11 PM
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It's not wrong but it's influenced by lots of factors and varies thus by age group and country. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_sex_ratio It varies drastically by country. World average is in fact estimated to be 7% from 15-24 and 2% from 25-55. Early twenties to early thirties you can expect around 4% surplus of men. The reason is that on a world average 9% more men are born and if you don't have high male child mortality this will translate to a surplus of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 08:52 PM
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I'm aware of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 05:49 PM
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No, you don't have to. But it's a HUGE difference between saying X do Y when X is 80% or when X is 0.5%. If you say X do Y then a reader will assume you mean a significantly large enough percentage and not 0.5%. In that case it might be indicated to narrow it down, yes. The point is high school hierarchies don't mean shit the minute you graduate. Not disagreeing with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 05:46 PM
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Agreed. Usually I argue about women within my age group and in this case the discussion is restricted to dating. For obvious reason: no statement is going to apply to people of all ages and all cultures. It doesn't make sense for me to argue about how it works for people 40y+ because I don't know and it doesn't effect me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 05:42 PM
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Anectdotal evidence of course. I don't run large scale psychology studies. I wish I could and'd have the money but if I had the money I'd invest it into research into early mental health intervention approaches instead I'm afraid. just want their husband to hurry up and nut and gtfo That doesn't sound like she's enjoying it then...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 05:33 PM
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No, it's not. Some nerds become millionaires. They might end up in a high paying sector. If they make 100k and save half their income they will be millionaires in 20 years or maybe 10 years if they marry a woman with a full time job. If you both work and each earn 50k you'd be millionaires at 40 too. But the felon thing is certainly not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 05:27 PM
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This is a very childish unrealistic view.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 05:18 PM
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Because there's 7% more men than women. For some reason babies are more often male than female which is why men aged 0-65 outnumber women by 4-7%. It is true that there are more women than men but that's only the case because women live longer. Up until the age of 65 men outnumber women in warfree countries. You can't physically pair up all men and women as there'd be 5% men left with no women to pair with. Besides: Not everybody is compatible with everybody. There are bound to be people who are…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 05:16 PM
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There's some rating obviously - but nowhere close to the level women do. Of course if she scratches your eyes out that's bad sex but that obviously falls outside the scope of what I mean by "rating sexual performance". And sure - some guys have different expectations than others. And yes -occasionally I've seen the "starfish" complaint.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 05:08 PM
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Yeah but "Incels" are maybe a few thousand people worldwide.. hardly worth talking about in this context even though media loves to make a big fuss about maybe in an attempt to push the "see! men are bad" propaganda. Incels are worth talking about in the context that lack of intimacy causes mental health problems but that's imo it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 12:29 PM
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You can't trust anybody. It's just not a healthy attitude in my opinion. It's better to trust within reason and deal with "breaches" as they arrive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 12:09 PM
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the more you know, the more experience you have, the more insecure he feels. That's all completely natural. I'd expect female virgins to have the same insecurities. Those are just normal humam feelings and if you're an adult men/women dating a virgin you should be aware of that and act accordingly. As a reasonable adult you know that there are cognitive desires and subconscious emotional desires that are just part of being human. There's no point trying to fight nature in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 11:59 AM
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Guard? As long as you're not willing to cheat he won't be able to either. There's no danger if you yourself are committed to your current relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 11:47 AM
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And why would such a past action be such a huge deal now? What do you gain from that? The knowledge that he was able to persuade another women into sex without using money versus the knowledge that he was able to persuade another women into sex with using money? How are ONS emotional connections? There’s no such intention when a man seeks out a prostitute. Practically speaking: What's the point of making an emotional connection when both parties just want sex and nothing beyond that? But sure. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 09:32 AM
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If she WAS a sex worker then I wouldn't mind. If she IS a sex worker then I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 09:28 AM
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Also, they could have STDs and I just don’t want that. This is a silly argument. In these days you TEST for them. There's no longer a need to make guesses about whether has an STD or not. It's silly to even make this guesses. Better safe than sorry. put too much importance on sex which is why they were willing to pay money for it. And this bothers you because...? Men have sex drives and needs. How is fulfilling these needs putting too much importance on sex? That's like saying eating food when y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 09:27 AM
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I would. There's not really much experience you need as a woman to be good at sex and as far as I'm concerned men don't rate sexual performance the way women do so her being a virgin is hardly any practical issue as long as she's acutally an adult woman with a realistic view of sex I don't really see an issue. If she has completely unrealistic views of sexual relationships then that would be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 09:24 AM
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These guys are ahead, because their experience (success) has given them personality, social skills, emotional intelligence, charisma. Success doesn't equate personality, social skills, intelligence nor charisma. Believing this in itself is a delusion. However, obviously experience with women gives you a better sense of how you need to act around women to draw interest. Which is incidentally exactly what redpill is about. The whole point of redpill is to teach men who don't have this experience h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 09:21 AM
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Well, my guess is still that sex drive doesn't completely vanish. Masturbation makes no sense - reproduction wise - but it's still a pleasurable activity. The other question is whether old men genuinely get hard for old ladies or whether this is mostly thanks to pharma. But yeah, Would be interesting to hear an old persons take on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 08:42 AM
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Generally evolutionary pressure only applies until you actually reproduced. Evolution favors reproduction. It doesn't favor strength, intelligence... just reproduction. If you reproduce more often and quicker your genes are going to win. It doesn't really matter whether you're a chess genius (unless being a chess genius makes you attractive). As an extreme example. If you had a species that would die shortly after reproduction - evolution doesn't care. There's no pressure to evolve to live longe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 10:22 PM
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Based on the luck people on ASD spectrum have with dating I'd say it might be a romantic fantasy women have - but it isn't really something that is going to be attractive in real life. Women get very excited for men like this. I doubt it. I don't really notice this. I'd say those kind of men have trouble getting a woman's attention. I've been pretty much in that situation my entire life. Some of my older (they are older than me) female friends uniformly agree that I have very good qualities. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 10:11 PM
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I'd say it's because attraction is inherently tied to reproduction. Attraction is what causes sex - and after you're infertile there's not really any pressure to have sex so it makes sense to assume that we have evolved to find people sexually attractive that are capable of reproduction and that we have evolved some way of not being attracted to people that are past their reproductive ages. Of course - this is simplified. We know that sex drive doesn't stop and old people still have and enjoy se…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 09:14 PM
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it's not like every female gets a million bucks when they turn 18. Well, of course. You might want to assume that I'm not a complete idiot - but rather a reasonable average adult. a male nurse once told me that it's pretty easy for him to get hired, because hospitals want diversity on their nursing staff. Of course there are going to be job local privileges. Companies striving for diversity in male dominated fields will make it easier for women to get hired and within female dominated fields obv…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 07:42 PM
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any fool who looks at our society objectively would figure out fast that men are more privilege Not really, no. It's a common misconception but when you look at it closely there are barely any male privileges. I made such a post a while ago and besides some minor social things nobody was able to name an actual male privilege. There's a lot of stuff that gets thrown around like "my deo costs 20 cents more" which amounts to less than 20 bucks a year which just doesn't translate to any significant …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 07:04 PM
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As much as I don't like his tone he's not exactly wrong. Some points are genuinely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 05:48 PM
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Was? No. Is? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 05:44 PM
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If she doesn't like it then she doesn't like it. What's there to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 03:20 PM
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I could but then you probably land on some list and if radical feminism wins as it probably will I'd rather not be on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 09:25 AM
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I'm starting to feel you lack the ability to understand nuances.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 09:24 AM
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Nah, it's quarantined. Although I don't see why.. there's way worse communities with women who aren't quarantined but TRP probably got more media attention and reddit didn't have the balls to act moral. Just like no journalist has the skills to know that such communities even exist but journalists today are sadly often not able to look past their own biases. Ironically this one-sided reporting and excluding men's issues obviously pisses men off making the situation (eventually) worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 11:00 PM
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Hu?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 10:44 PM
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I agree except that I don't think every aspect of attraction is socialized. This seems wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 09:59 PM
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None of those negative things (rape, gambling, substance abuse, etc ) are due to lack of sex. They are. It's like saying breakups don't cause depression. It definitely plays a role in it. It might not be the only factor but it still plays a role in it. Lack of sex implies lack of intimacy and lack of intimacy plays a huge role in depression and mental well being. Drugs may be used to cope with it. Saying lack of sex doesn't cause such problems is negligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 08:02 PM
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It is a bad thing because sex is necessary. We have elvoved complicated emotional systems that steer us into reproduction. The system rewards behaviours that lead to reproduction (happiness, comfort, euphoria, etc.) and it punishes behaviours that don't (anger, frustration, sadness, depression and many other mental illnesses).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 07:59 PM
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I'm just saying in real life many people you conside nice, normal peole have opinions you consider "shitbag" be it gender topics, political or any topics. They don't hide anything it's just that in real life you are able to discern more and see a complete person with nuanced facettes where on the internet all you see is a single sentence that you'll extrapolate to mean whatever evil thing you're trying to see the other party.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 07:52 PM
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I don't know. This is an emotional question and I'm sure evolution has had some plan for these situations. It's like asking "would you abort a disabled fetus?". Rationally I would but if it's my child it's different.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 06:42 PM
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"nice guys finish last" is just a mostly empty phrase you throw at a friend who has no obvious personality flaws but is somehow unlucky with dating to cheer him up. It doesn't really mean much. It's just a silly phrase to show empathy like "I'm sorry for your loss" is a phrase to show empathy. There's no entitlement nor expectation towards women in that phrase. At best all it does is to acknowledge that having no obvious personality flaws and good manners doesn't magically make you attractive an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 06:38 PM
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Any democractic country has voting results of around 45-48 to 52-55 so you can pretty much assume every other person you know has a different political opinion than you on A LOT of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 06:24 PM
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No, and I and hopefully other users would appreciate it if you tone down your toxicity and start arguing in good faith instead of turning things into a personal issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 04:45 PM
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Proof? There isn't a single recorded case of a human not making any judgement based on looks - with the exception of blind people but with smells and voice quality etc. they probably do it too Research in the field of psycholgy just 100% shows that humans make judgements based on looks. Even the silly mythbusters experiments show this. There's not a single study that would show otherwise. Of course this isn't proof that no such human exists but it means that almost the entire humanity does this.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 02:14 PM
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You do it too. And it's not awful. It's human and perfectly normal. The only way you don't do this too is you being blind, deaf and anosmic. If being human is awful to you then be prepared for a lot of disappointments. Arousal isn't a conscious decision. It's a function of the brain that is much deeper than your conscious self-awareness. The part of the brain you perceive to be you is very small and you're even more of a passive observer of other parts of the brain than you are you. Your brain d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 12:03 PM
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Both genders expect to be judged based on their personality but neither judges the other gender by that. You could view this as hypocrisy though. Pretty much every single human does this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 11:40 AM
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then I shouldn't be expected to date a guy just because he's nice. Well you're not. The only person deciding whom you should date is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 11:29 AM
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Yes. Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 10:58 AM
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No. Plenty of 10/10s out there that have regular office or nursing jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 10:58 AM
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The internet allows you to easily demonize people. If a person on the internet says something that you don't 100% agree with you'll be enemies and probably thinking "women hating shitbag" or "retarded feminazi". You usually don't have this b/w thinking in real life otherwise you wouldn't have friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 10:56 AM
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Depends on your reference frame. If I'd say women chase after guys with poorer manners than me then almost all women chase "assholes". But that's neither a fair nor realistic standard. Just because I have higher morals than an average person that doesn't make them assholes. Guys don't chase chubby girls because they are not visually attractive to a lot of guys. If you're that kind of girl you need to chase after guys instead of waiting for them to chase you. It doesn't mean they're hypocrites. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 10:51 AM
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Well... it's silly. Nice people treat you nice. Bad people treat you bad. And in between you have people that don't have a good compass and treat you as bad as you let them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 10:44 AM
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As such, it's more effective for the woman to improve her looks from 7 to 8 than to develop a whole new personality Nah. If you suck around men and are a 7 you'll be so much better off by not sucking around men than be an 8 and still suck around men or be a woman child and an 8. Going from 7 to 8 doesn't increase how many men would be interested in you. It'd be like getting 94 instead of 90 when you need 60 to pass. It doesn't add much. If you have an unpleasant/boring character and improve this…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 10:53 AM
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They attract the good ones. Very simple. The more engaging your character is the more attractive you are to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 10:47 AM
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Yeah but all non-obese women are high in demand?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 11:04 AM
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Yeah. Shouldn't take ya more than 10minutes unless you also need a shower.. then 15minutes. Everything above that is excessive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 10:54 AM
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How would that contribute to hypergamy? Either you assume most women are hot in which case the attention would be uniformly distributed or you assume a very small minority is hot in which case it's probably not large enough to do much other than destroying young people's body image.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 10:46 AM
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Then this money is given to peoples who are of a low value to society, rewarding their bad behaviour and/or their bad genetics. No. This and pardon my words is complete and utter bullshit. You had or got into a car accident and can't work anymore? Is that bad behaviour? Bad genetics? No, it's not. What if the profession you've learned isn't in demand anymore? Is that bad behavior or bad genetics? No. What if some local economy collapses and you lose your job for a while? Is that bad behaviour or…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 08:37 AM
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How would ”taking responsibility” look in a situation where a girl has been rejected look to you? You acknowledge you weren't good enough without devalueing the rejecting party. they’re also blaming themselves. A bit but not really. You don't accept blame for the failure of a relationship if you call the other party a loser or something. "We didn't work out" is similar. You don't accept blame but at least you also don't blame the other party.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 08:17 AM
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"I blame myself for hooking up with this loser" or similar is not actually blaming yourself though but you're blaming him. It's his fault it didn't work out. But of course women ask themselves such questions. I’d wager more girls will have friends who will comfort them with ”it’s not you, it’s him” or similar though. It's women's coping strategy apparentely. You must devalue him and I guess this is why you don't see women taking responsibility because they often devalue men instead?. I guess thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 07:13 AM
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when a woman opens up, her femininity is attacked because now she is deemed as worthless/slut/single mom. Right... then explain me why there regularily/constantly r/TwoXChromosomes that make it to r/all yet I've never seen a post about male issues make it to r/all. Women opening up and complaining and whining is celebrated and encouraged if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 08:57 AM
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Ive been thinking that oft repeated "women like mean that treat them like shit" is confusing correlation and causation. Maybe its just that women prefer guys likely to do so. Wel, if 90% of black birds have trait Y while only 5% of blue birds have trait Y and female birds like Y then obviously they're going after the black birds, not the blue birds. Since 90% of black birds have this trait it's reasonable to assume that trait Y at least shares some underlying psychopathalogy or whatever with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 09:30 AM
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When I did online dating the vast sweeping majority of men available were Unattractive. That's exactly the point being made. Statistically if the majority of men are unattractive then this implies that the average man is unattractive and that women do not consider an average looking man as attractive. That's literally part of OP's point. You've essentially just said "No" but then went on to confirm OP's claim. Even more so you'd just have proved this RP theory of cognitive disonnance or whatever…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 08:55 AM
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Still. If you're an adult women then it's up to you to control the outcome. You control the outcome. Even more so as a woman - you have a decent amount of men to pick from - even more in online dating. You don't have to go actively looking then find maybe one and then hope that she's decent. You get a bucket of men and then you can select a few or one for closer inspection. If you're a decent adult women you oughta know that guys neither owe you relationships for sex nor is sex necessarily the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 10:24 PM
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Lifetime prevalence of being cheated on is usually estimated to be at least 25%. But anyway, your comment sounds like a very harsh over-generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 09:25 PM
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I don't think red pill teaches to never settle down? I thought red pill is all about attraction. And nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 08:55 PM
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Which in itself is obviously an attitude that drives away men that want relationships. If you desire a relationship you look for a women with character, personality and a realistic and fair attitude towards men... anything else is essentially a warning sign. Realistically any decent (by which I mean character/personality/attitude) women will have zero problems finding a man willing to enter a committed relationship with her - some exceptions of course apply. If she has to write "no fuck boys" sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 08:51 PM
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It would be different if the male:female birth ratio weren't 1.07:1.0 but ~1.0:~1.0. Or high male youth mortality or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 08:14 PM
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Were you really just babbling for 10 minutes to pass the time with a stranger? That's weird. Meh. This should change. There shouldn't be anything wrong with simply talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 09:46 AM
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It's her money.. legally... at least here. It's up to her to decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 09:41 AM
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The one thing that isn't is "there's someone for everybody". Nope. For 5% of men there isn't. Women today don't understand how harsh this actually is. It means you have to fight to not be bottom 5% or you'll be left with nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 09:29 AM
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I'm not sure what this means because women already are held to account for their decisions by reality itself. I don't think they mean it this way. In reality even if you're an iresponsible moron we all have to deal with consequences of our actions. This is probably refering to all kinds of social stuff. The point seems to be that you don't give in to hysterical women just because they can provide sex. Also, mens idea of what constituted adult behaviour might be different from women's. Sure a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 07:15 AM
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It's not defunct. It's still working. Fitness just means reproduction. Currently most humans are fit enough to do that. point is that you dont need to do shit in western society today you could be absolute bottom barrel and as you knock a chick up boom there ya go genes carried on. Maybe, but nature doesn't use such a value system. If you knock a chick up then you're the alpha. If you knock her up three times then you're even more alpha. If you knock a chick up then by definition you've succeede…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 03:59 PM
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Is somebody looking for advice broken?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 03:27 PM
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It was never about survival of the fittest. You reproduce -> you win. Doesn't matter if you make 150k or 10k or whether you can lift 200lbs. Only idiots think that. If you fuck, then raise the children until it can fuck and have children then you're the winner as far as life is concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 03:22 PM
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Did they pretend to be strong women and were just emotional insecure messes? Yes, although we can't blame them for that. Intimacy is a human desire regardless of your emotional health and "fake it til you make it" is the only strategy that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 03:19 PM
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Well, abstitent women are a different story, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 09:53 AM
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Ever seen the movie Forrest Gump? If not: watch it. Great movie. Then pay attention to the side story with the woman. Then you'll know. CC women deprive young men of relationships and men want relationships and it sucks to invest time to no avail and then be the "fallback" guy later on. It's probably like playing soccer at 50... it's something but never as fun as it would have been at 20. You miss out on a lot of stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 03:01 PM
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I was hoping someone would point this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 06:58 PM
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This is a very well written comment. I like it. Couldn't have worded it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 04:09 PM
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Because 19 year old women aren't mature enough for a middle aged man? Isn't this sooo obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 04:05 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 01:57 PM
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Prostitution is legal in a lot of countries and I don't see there any significant difference for SMP. Hookers are expensive (here). Really expensive. 200 bucks for a fuck. That's expensive. You only use them if you have a long dry spell (or to lose your virginity I guess) or for a therapeutic effect (i.e. in case you don't want to fuck up sex with a women you like so you train how to do it properly with a hooker so you're not clueless and nervous around a women you like scaring her away). In som…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 01:18 PM
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You can't just arbitrarily redefine things. You can - but then any discussion becomes futile. As an example: If getting up every morning is a ritual and ritual equals religion then getting up every morning is a religion and discussing religions just became futile because you've just arbitrarily redefined what religion means and since anything is a religion now any discussion is futile. Secure satisfied happy people aren't wasting their time seeking ego inflating nonsense online. Unlikely. Yet, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 01:04 PM
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Mental illness is just a matter of definition anyway. As long as you don't suffer from it or harm others it isn't a mental illness. That's the definition used in medicine. Enjoying positive feedback is perfectly fine. I however still stand by that if you do things with the primary motivation to get admiration - that is narcissism. That doesn't mean it's pathalogical narcissism - but it's narcissism. Also as already said - being proud of oneself is an entirely different concept. There's a differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 12:45 PM
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Oh yeah. Exclude the women who are old (over 25), the fatties, the uglies, the one's that don't do anal, the ones that nag, the emotional wrecks, the narcs, the histrionics, the sluts (more than 2 partners) or lets just exclude all non virgins. Yeah, pretty slim pickings for men indeed. You see what's wrong with your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 11:30 AM
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Also most men do not want relationships and religious women are the ones most interested in that. Marriage is still very popular and you'll find that men aim at marrying at 28 and have children at 30. I just can't agree with this idea that men aren't looking for relationships. Maybe at 16-22 the aim is simply gaining some sexual experience and fun but after that the clock starts ticking. A girlfriend is a stable source of sex . Much more convenient than chasing after women to get sex. I personal…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 10:33 AM
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I can see why most girls avoid making any moves and wait for the guy to do everything. As any guy might tell you: being the one to make a move is frustrating because most advances aren't reciprocrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 10:12 AM
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You forgot an option: he just wanted a platonic friendship and her trying to lift it to a romantic/sexual one made him back away.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 09:02 AM
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So... there's an objective way to quantify this. If your average woman struggles (or says things like good men are rare) to find a good man then her standards are too high. If an average man struggles to do the same then his standards are too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 08:59 AM
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Hm. I'd have to read this in-depth to see what exactly constitutes disability. I can't image that 20% have a significant disability in terms of QoL and LoI. Hay fever could be a disability for example given a broad enough definition. But thanks for linking it. Maybe I'll find the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 08:51 AM
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Depression isn't categorized as a serious mental illness unless it is severe MDD About 20% of adult men have some sort of physical or mental disability. Source? That sounds way too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 08:39 AM
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At the end of the day, it's not just one gender hoop jumping. Of course not. You can only argue in terms of what effort does a regular X need to spend to mate with a regular Y. Otherwise you don't have fixed goal posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 08:36 AM
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Pride doesn't mean you are looking for admiration. You're proud about having earned a rollex but this is different from expecting admiration for your rollex. If you buy a rollex for admiration then that's narcissism as far as I'm concerned. If you buy it because you like the look and functions of the watch then that's perfectly fine. with nice things and enjoy when that effort is acknowledged, we don't DEMAND it. Expectation is a demand. but why not enjoy the fruits of your labor? It's about int…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 08:33 AM
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They also used lead for makeup. And put poison into their eyes to get bigger pupils. Both those substances are incredibly dangerous. You know people have being making beauty standards and cosmetic changes for eons right? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 08:25 AM
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It's figurative speech and the focus was on attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 08:10 AM
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Most guys are together. Most guys live a normal life with a regular job. Then there's 3-4% unemployment (which is unfortunate but doesn't really imply they are dumb, bad or don't have themselves together) and then around 2-3% with serious mental disorders. Let's round this up to 10%. 90% of guys are perfectly fine. If 3 out of 10 guys you date are crap chances are you are crap too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 08:09 AM
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I'd say they take it due to their desired self-image - not because of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 08:04 AM
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Just admire the work put in it. When woman dress up for social settings it IS a bit of a sign she's looking to be looked at, sure. But wanting your beauty or effort to be noticed is a FAR cry from asking to be pestered by people who won't take a no. I summarize that as narcissism.. at least I don't see any difference. When I dress up in suit and wear fancy watches and dress shoes etc. it's because I have to and is proper etiquette (currently) and not because I want admiration.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 08:03 AM
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but I don't need to be hearing that MEN are the only ones who go through any effort Of course not, but this isn't the point that was made?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 07:58 AM
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walking in shoes that ache and spending hundred of their money in cosmetics and haircare to be attractive. Neither of those things are a requirement or even necessary to be attractive. You think women in ancient times weren't attractive because high heels haven't been invented yet? If you don't like your mirror image then don't blame men for it - work on your self-esteem, personality and narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 07:54 AM
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Well fair enough. She's got to be an adult woman who can do adult stuff (budget, laundry, cook, do gov stuff (taxes), clean, you know.. those adult thi gs) and be able to hold a decent adult-style conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 07:04 PM
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I don't have a list. I find the whole concept of a list stupid. I let my feelings guide me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 06:56 PM
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I don't even like this classification. You're partners in a relationship. But let's go with it. So a "high value man" is a man who gets a lot of interest from women for whatever reason. Either he has a regular guy attitude: he picks an average women he enjoys and marry the crap out of her OR he has a player attitude: he uses his status for casual flings and marries the women that fucks him the best or something. Which kind of man would you want? The first one: then don't worry about it... there'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 06:53 PM
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Mirroring qualities you look for in a partner is the best strategy for anyone. My opinion as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 06:44 PM
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Narcissism is a sense of grandiosity, entitlement and thinking one deserves the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 06:41 PM
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Narcissism is a bad personality trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 06:06 PM
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Mistake number one is searching for someone impressive. Mistake number two is thinking first dates are something magical and you know eachother after one date. Mistake number three is dating people you don't know. I don't know a single person in my social circle who had any success with dating strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 04:00 PM
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Wouldn't you do the same thing? Not the ISIS part... the part of ensuring the safety of your children?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 11:34 AM
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That sounds like a conspiracy theory to me. Sure, there oughta be some troubled people who do this kind of stuff to push some agenda but unlikely on any significant scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 11:32 AM
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This contrasts women who say "men are stupid to think we get approached this often" and that this is the biggest myth. This is weird. It seems when men say "women get approached often thus .." they are eager to deny that and when men say "women don't get approached that often thus .." they are eager to deny that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 10:31 AM
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I don't know. I've never been on those subreddits. However, assuming red pill means what I think it means you can't be red pill without caring about women. Red pill inherently is concerned with giving women what they (the women) want thus they care a lot about women obviously. Red pill is essentially good for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 04:51 PM
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The problem is preservatives. People use sex like drugs. You were never supposed to have sex for fun like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 04:18 PM
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How is this dishonest? If you hate blacks you're a racist. That's what the term racist means. If you're male and sexually attracted to males you're gay. That's what "gay" means. It's a ridiculous standard to expect that somebody agrees to 100% with something. Even buddhists don't agree with eachother but if you share some common core views with buddhists group then you are a buddhist. Red pill is the concept of looking at what each gender's desires are and what they want from the other gender an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 03:07 PM
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No, that's what "red pill" means to me. they are not going to be using tricks or game Everybody does that. We just don't call it "game" but treating women a certain way no matter which way is technically a trick and part of the game of life. Life is a game. You're constantly using your knowledge about human psychology to get your needs met. You trick friends into liking you. It's not called tricking but at a VERY abstract level it is. You're nice to people to make them be nice to you. That's a t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 02:52 PM
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Of course they share the same views. One group uses the rules to their advantage and the other group doesn't like it because the rules don't give them an advantage but the rules are the same. If you are a tall guy you like the rules of basketball and if you're short you don't but obviously both are under the same rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 02:46 PM
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People who don't need red pill advice already live red pill. Ideally you don't hang around in a "how to X" community except when you have issues with X
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 02:42 PM
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I find there to be a lot of falsehoods on it Examples? It would be ridiculous to hold red pill to the standard "it has to cover 95% of women". If it just covers 70% or something it would be enough for it to have a practical benefit. It surely was never intended to capture the entirety of women... just a significantly large enough portion of women. I disagree with their charactization of "women", and that charactization is probably what drives a lot of involuntary celibacy. I doubt it. That would…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 02:39 PM
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So the "being disgusted by the nature of women's sexuality" then. That's life. Women play men for sex and men play women for sex. You gotta know how to compromise. Red pill just tries to make you a better player. Red pill by definition is the truth. Whatever is true is the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 02:25 PM
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All so that men could bang away with them without having to use those awful awful condoms. You know women take them at their own free will? I wouldn't take birth control pills if I were a woman. Not worth the risk. Granted it's the most effective way to prevent pregnancy but since female fertility cycles I'd just restrict fucking to days where one isn't too fertile and use condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 02:21 PM
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Red pill is the solution to being an incel. How would red pill make you an incel? Because men would be disgusted by learning about the nature of women's sexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 02:14 PM
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What effect does it have when young men who have never had a relationship and have never otherwise interacted with a woman in an intimate way absorb red pill info like sponges? They learn how to attract women and thus form relationships? The whole point of RP as far as I know is exactly this: how to be attractive to women. Ideally you should confront them with it when they are sexually mature which is going to be just at the end of puberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 02:12 PM
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But isn't red pill sort of the yang to the incel ying?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 02:07 PM
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Might be that testoreone is produced on a "per need" basis? It's less accepted to be manly thus less testosterone is produced by the body? You should search for studies that compare T levels from office workers with hard workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 12:15 PM
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The 1-10 scale has no practical utility nor relevance. It's more of a theoretical objective concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 12:10 PM
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Love is a sperms way of producing more sperms.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 12:02 PM
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Both genders want to be judged by their personality yet neither gender does jugde the other gender by that. It's sort of a paradox. You'll have to accept that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 11:58 AM
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Yup, on a population group level this is of course the case. Thanks for linking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 07:52 AM
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It's a cultural thing that doesn't universally exist. Just look at countries that don't have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 07:10 AM
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Well most men still makes more than most women. Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 07:07 AM
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why the same guys claiming all women today are sluts Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 07:05 AM
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This is hard to measure. Obviously the minimum lower bound is "not repulsive". You might like her but if she can't get you hard then it's going to be a very unsatisfying relationship and a poor match. However, that threshold is low which women sometimes wrongly negatively attribute to "thirst". Imagine a world where men would find 80% of women unattractive.. there wouldn"t be a lot of sex and thus not a lot of babies. It is a very beneficial for the species that men have this trait: a very low t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 10:55 AM
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I'm male.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 08:18 AM
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Wouldn't helping a "chad" with his career literally be the worst thing for you? He'd have good looks AND a good career then which means you'd have no comparative advantage anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 08:16 AM
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It does if you haven't slept with enough women and have a decent career and a stable relationshio or at least one on the horizon until then. It of course doesn't literally end but as people become worthless they inevitably become depressed and with that drugs (incl. alcohol) will follow to cope with it. Even if you had a decent career the lack of meaning in life will still turn people to those things. It's often overlooked but homeless people, alcoholics etc. were thriving people at their peak i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 08:13 AM
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A compliment from a woman you do not know A compliment from a woman you know A compliment from a man you know A compliment from a man you do not know Male.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 08:00 AM
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There is something wrong with him. Something I dont want. Which is? I mean... You wouldn't spot a virgin until it gets to physical intimacy EXCEPT if they have a mental disorder which means you don't even need to know their sexual history to tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 07:52 AM
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how many men here value character and compatibility over looks? Here? No clue. In the real world: most.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 07:47 AM
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Women can leave anytime too. There will be enough guys approaching her. If you approach women you'd give them power by your own logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 07:14 AM
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I never even mentioned hookers. Women's That's a very biased world view. Pretty sure I implied this in the question and in the description I thought you asked who's more romantic. Ideally you would ask who fulfills eachother's expectations for romance better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 07:17 PM
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Clubs or work. All other time and places are currently considered inappropriate and work starts become more inappropriate too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 02:26 PM
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What if love/romance is different for men? Who defines which definition counts? Yours or ours? Why would either definition be more right than the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 02:24 PM
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What do you think "love" is for? And what do you consider "romance"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 10:55 AM
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I never approach. It'll usually be considered unwanted unless it's at a club and ONS territory. Pretty much nobody "approaches" women outside of clubs or work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 10:48 AM
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It still fascinates me why people ignore the fact that women's biological clock impacts men about equally. It takes two to make a baby.. it doesn't matter who becomes infertile first. At best you get a few years more time depending on what age difference women and you are still comfortable with. Peak at 40? Maybe... But then? You marry a 37 year old? There's a significant chance she's already infertile. Marry a 30y old? Much better chances but a decade of age difference. Also... if you care abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 08:02 AM
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My answer to that would be you have the amount of sex you are comfortable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 12:19 PM
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Now is more relevant than the past so yes - I 100% would.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 10:46 AM
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Carrying on the theme of men who resent women for having sex with a man before them or doing something like anal with another man and feeling awful about it later. What does this have to do with the question in the title? what would you do if your wife/ girlfriend demand that you spend equal or more amount of money on her than you have on any other woman before? Red flag I guess. She keeps track of my spending on her and somehow knows how much I spent on previous women? This just screams control…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 10:44 AM
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Is that assumption that x is only hired as diversity the same assumption keeping them from advancing? Doubt it. Once you've hired somebody you can actually see how good they are. When hiring a stranger you can only guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 07:04 AM
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So essentially you're assuming I lie about the fake profile thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 09:14 PM
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Doesn't mean a small portion of them doesn't try to get a top x% through social media? Who thinks he has a shot with an insta model? An overly confident attractive man or an average man?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 09:08 PM
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There are studies and they say women only count good sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 09:04 PM
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This might be an unpopular opinion but I don't think women use make-up in their daily life primarily to attract men. I see it like juwlery and coloring nails. They improve their look based on their own personal standards. Men chasing instagram women are usually attractive men in my experience - not average men. A colleague of mine has female fake profiles to promote products he sells. The fake profiles get a lot of attention predominantly from men I (as a man) would consider to be top 20% in loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 08:57 PM
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I'll try to remember this offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 08:37 PM
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It's not uncomfortable but I have no interest in breaking the rules of subreddits. I could message you my answer if you really want to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 08:22 PM
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I don't think I can answer this without breaking the incel rule. I'm definitely not an "incel" but I am a person with zero experience in physical intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 08:11 PM
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You also don't know that a woman or minority was hired just to check off an EEO box Of course not. But it's a possibilty and it's the possibility that leads to such assumptions. I merely explained why people occasionally make such assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 04:11 PM
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I'm a feminist though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 04:07 PM
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Red pill: like al gore's an inconvenient truth. Blue pill: for practical reasons people compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 04:06 PM
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You don't know when a white man was hired why he was hired either. You know they weren't hired for their penis but beyond that - yes, you don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 03:59 PM
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is it assumed that when women and minorities are hired instead of a white man that they're autmoatically less qualified? PR reasons of course. Increased diversity as a goal gives incentives to value gender more in hiring decisions meaning you don't know whether somebody was hired for PR reasons or skill. But you don't know how qualified someone is until you've hired them anyway and you don't need to hire the best - just somebody who can do the job. I'd hire a women with less qualifications than …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 03:49 PM
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Obviously. Hiring people is a gamble. You get their CV and their degree but this means very little in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 02:49 PM
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Comments with facts get downvoted all the time. I don't even care about it anymore. You should do the same: ignore the rating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 02:45 PM
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I"d be weirded out by the fact that there's competition between gender instead of cooperation. I don't think animals fight over who sits on the eggs and who brings the worms and attach some higher superficial meaning to it. As long as the offspring survives you did a great job. I imagine an alien species who is technologically advanced but hasn't lost it's tie to what they are biologically.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 02:41 PM
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Yes, I figured there's going to be a plateau after which a partner more or less doesn't really amount to much difference. Having had 2-4 partners with multiple occurences of intercourse is probably enough to have "decent" sexual experience. Otherwise you'd need to have multiple ONS to get to roughly the same amount of sexual experience although I imagine that having sex 10 times with 10 different women amounts to more sexual experience than having had sex 5 times with two different women each.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 02:17 PM
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Even if (at that stage) you want to lie and say you've had sex with 5-6-7 partners to polish your "sex appeal" credibility... she won't be able to tell the difference. "Sex appeal" I agree. But she'll be able to tell the difference when it comes to actual intercourse. Both in skill and "nervousness". Unless you are zero nervous you can tell (and even if you're zero nervous the fact that you don't have a clue how to move and postion properly is a telltale sign) and I dare say it's fairly normal a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 01:42 PM
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Tim Tebow is a virgin; do you think women are repulsed by him? Pretty much, yes. For numerous reasons: Not wanting to spend the time and effort to "teach" them how to fuck properly Assuming there's something wrong with them You can't really boast with him (if you're into boasting) Sex is going to be bad the first dozen times (although this is closely related to number 1) He's generally not well desired by other women (no sense of him being a prize) He might be sexually passive and not aggressive…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 01:36 PM
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Have you ever seen pictures of actresses and porn stars with no make up? Yes. The fact that they use make-up however doesn't mean they have significant flaws. It's an issue of self-perception. However it's incredibly hard to get pictures of actresses with and without makeup because a lot of the time the one with make-up is also going to be photoshopped which disqualifies those pictures to compare make-up vs. no make-up anyway. Then the ones with make-up are often done in different lightning and …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 12:06 PM
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The public? The HR? The gender diversity department? It's a war zone. What do you do when a woman complains about you making her feel uncomfortable? Either you believe her, or you ignore her because there's no evidence. If you ignore her she might make a big fuss online and your company or university is in the news and then your name as the HR guy or chief of the gender diversity department is going to be in the news as well. That's bad PR. You don't want that. You'd rather make a "protective st…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 11:02 AM
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ACTUAL RAPE You need to be more specific what you mean. Boring unexciting flower sex is still rape if she didn't want to. The "hardness"/"aggressiveness"/"violentness" (although that doesn't appear to be a proper english word) doesn't define whether it's rape or not. I don't think there's any non-negligible amount of people who think women desire sex against their will. That makes absolutely no sense. You don't desire things you don't desire. The fact that people think women actually want rape s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 10:53 AM
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Except that 100s sounds way too high I agree with the rest of the post. As relationships frequently start from sex the sex has to be good for the relationship to start. This is in contrast to a relationship starting before you have sex and where people work together to make the sex good. If casual sex is the entry this step is skipped and either the sex is already good and it transitions into a relationship or the sex isn't good (yet) and there won't be a relationship. In order to be good on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 10:40 AM
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Engineering is great for women currently. Companies are actively looking for and foster women in engineering to increase staff diversity which until the target staff diversity is achieved you might even currently have a slight advantage over a man with the same skill because the company is also thinking about PR and having better diversity is great for PR as well as customer relations because now you have women in your company that can give you input on how to design the product to be also more …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 10:21 AM
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I think young people who use dating apps/online dating sites are a different crowd to older people who use dating apps/online dating sites Probably not a lot of 70 year old women use Tinder, sure. But for a specific age group the prevalence of Tinder usage is quite high. For 18-25 the prevalence of dating app usage is certainly high enough to consider it representative. The prevalence of Tinder usage in that age group is at least 35% and surveys usually show that the prevalence of dating app usa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 10:03 AM
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Which implies you think there are Slut Walks protesting against something other than police treatment of sexual assault victims. Which doesn't even remotely imply that I don't know what the SlutWalk association is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 09:50 AM
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If they had no way of knowing yes. It means you're making a statement about me that isn't rooted in any knowledge you actually have - it means it's a statement you make entirely out of bias/prejudice. This is the same thing as this scenario. "A guy was charged with a crime." and then you say "He must be black.". This is a statement that isn't founded on anything you actually know. It's a statement that is based ENTIRELY on prejudice. The fact whether the guy charged with the crime was actually b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 11:16 PM
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People who use online dating platforms are a specific group. Hm. I'd say given the popularity of online dating it draws a pretty diverse group and is probably decentely representative of a significant portion of the population. People who use online dating platforms are people who use online dating platforms which is in itself a specific group but that's a bit of a tautology. People who watch baseball are a specific group - but so many different people watch baseball that probably people who wat…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 11:10 PM
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But in either case... even if I didn't know... you would have made an assumption about me that isn't based on any fact other than an unfounded assumption which I generally deem not ok so to me personally it isn't even relevant whether I knew or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 11:07 PM
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I knew that there is a group that goes by that name that protests against victim blaming and slut shaming but it didn't make sense to compare them to my idea of what I think virgin marches would be about so I assumed he can't possibly be talking about that and is talking about slut shaming only. I didn't know it originated from an incident in Toronto though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 11:04 PM
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Both OP and yourself have been misinformed. Hu? How exactly have I been misinformed?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 10:49 PM
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Oh pardon. I guess in that case protest against people having and propagating the ideas I mentioned? I don't think there's a specific subgroup of society that holds these ideas. You don't have to protest against people - you can just protest against a concept. I don't think OP means slut walks such as the walks you've mentioned I think he means protests against the other kind of supposed "slut shaming"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 10:37 PM
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I think this has something. The idea that male sexuality/thirst is bad seems more prominent now - although since I have never lived in the past one should take this statement with a huge grain of salt. But in general we're just trying to fulfill our emotional needs without being purposely malicious or aggressive or dangerous. A man wants sex from you and this really shouldn't be seen as something bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 10:34 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 10:27 PM
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Who specifically would men be protesting against? The idea that virgins are creepy or dangerous and less valuable members of society. This doesn't mean I agree with OP. But that's what I think would virgin marches be about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 10:20 PM
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It's horseshit and I refuse to acknowledge it. Besides some minor sampling bias: Why would statistics released by online dating platforms be invalid? Of course - it's a business behind it out there to make a profit but does this translate to incentives to release fake statistics?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 10:14 PM
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The third was a post you did on female incels. That was removed. Probably because it broke the "no incel content" rule. Ah, yeah. The rule seemed to say "no content propagating incel stuff" rather than "be about incel" although "propagating" would also include that meaning I guess. The sound alike german word "propagieren" usually refers to actively pushing something rather than discussing about something. It was a really low quality post though anyway. The fourth appears to be for downvoting. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 10:11 PM
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but you also said there were no women in the high end bars where everyone is wearing suits. That has been my experience so far, yes. Not necessarily "no women", just a negligible amount. You'll meet the most women in dirty clubs (to be fair pretty much all clubs are dirty) and my friends keep telling me this but I have hyperacusis so clubs for me are off the table due to health reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 09:57 PM
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The Op here (rosacanina_) has only been reported 6 times in the past month (now I've got the log open). Hu? I have? What for? I'm generally civil and usually spend time to actually write arguments instead of going back and forth saying "Nope. you suck." "no. YOU suck" or start insulting people. Why didn't you notice me about it? ​ I have no interest in writing comments if they aren't welcomed. It takes time to write comments and lay down arguments and I'd rather not spend that time if my style o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 09:49 PM
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Theoretically it's this: You let women rate all men. The top 20% of men are the men with a score higher or equal to the 80 percent quantile. Casually it's this: Men that are highly desired by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 09:42 PM
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I'd say "Yes" because women tightly cluster and the effort required to move just a bit into the other direction is probably more. Although the question is whether top 20% refers to top 20% in terms of some form of score or top 20% in terms of population size. The other question would be whether the amount of work you put into becoming a top 20% is even worth it. If you get your degree with 60 points it doesn't really provide you with any advantage if you got 80 points on the exam and any extra e…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 09:36 PM
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or do you live in a place where there simply aren't a lot of youngish single people? I doubt that. It's just that your average bar has almost no women present. no i mean high SMV people with good social skills and extensive social networks who would know where to go to meet girls. Clubs. Lots of single women are there. It's not that I don't know where women are - I'm merely saying it's not bars. They hang around in clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 09:22 PM
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Not very civil, but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 09:17 PM
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It's fucking crap like this idiot who keeps dismissing any answer that doesn't confirm "Men have everything worse, mmk? Is this targeted at me? ​ It has nothing to do with "men have everything worse". The question is specifically scoped to what privileges I have simply based on my gender, not what privileges an entire population group has based on statistical metrics. It's also not scoped to include annoyance or slight disadvantages as a privilege. A privilege on an individual level is entirely …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 08:53 PM
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Sure an uncomfortable encounter will happen If there's any approach no matter how polite/nice/whatever and it makes women uncomfortable then this behaviour can not co-exist comfortablity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 08:26 PM
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Sure, but a rational adult might say that while 25% go badly 75% won't and maybe 3 good conversations outweigh 1 bad conversation? I mean.. how many random conversations with random women are weird? Haven't counted yet but at least 25% also sounds within the right ballpark.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 08:13 PM
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It is possible if and only if the other gender is being reasonable. If the mere fact that somebody says "Hi" to you makes you feel uncomfortable then it isn't possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 08:07 PM
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We're talking about this: Random guy sees random women at the bar. Guy walks up to her says "hi". She feels uncomfortable because the guy just made a move on her and has sexual interest in her but she doesn't. Being "good to other people" isn't enough to not make women uncomfortable - especially some women on PPD where the mere presence of a man might already make them uncomfortable. The only way for us to make women comfortable would be to either not exist or be mind readers. Being polite isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 08:06 PM
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No, but you're talking about not even to start engaging because you assume they will express sexual interest. All women know that engaging a random man in conversation or even basic courtesy is going to go badly at least 25% of the time. It's not worth the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 08:02 PM
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going to better bars or something There are no better bars. You can't get better than bars where you wear suits. I've been to pretty much any bar from fancy bar to casual bar to viking bars to casino bars to you name it. It's the same story. No women there and on rare occasions where women are actually present they are already there with male company which presumably is their date. Single women at bars is a huge myth. I don't know where it comes from. Presumably it comes from men who're currentl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 08:01 PM
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Are you legitimately trying to argue that women are as likely as men to follow people around begging for sex and attention? No? That's not even remotely what I said. Because too many dudes take that as an indicator of sexual interest and make it weird if not downright scary And your assumption that guys have sexual interest isn't exactly helpful either? What if I want to talk to a strange woman and she thinks I have sexual interest in her? That just makes everything even weirder. Assuming all gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 07:03 PM
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Are you legitimately trying to argue that women are as likely as men to follow people around begging for sex and attention? No? That's not even remotely what I said. Because too many dudes take that as an indicator of sexual interest and make it weird if not downright scary And your assumption that guys have sexual interest isn't exactly helpful either? What if I want to talk to a strange woman and she thinks I have sexual interest in her? That just makes everything even weirder. Assuming all gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 07:02 PM
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Are you legitimately trying to argue that women are as likely as men to follow people around begging for sex and attention? No? That's not even remotely what I said. Because too many dudes take that as an indicator of sexual interest and make it weird if not downright scary And your assumption that guys have sexual interest isn't exactly helpful either? What if I want to talk to a strange woman and she thinks I have sexual interest in her? That just makes everything even weirder. Assuming all gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 07:02 PM
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All women know that engaging a random man in conversation or even basic courtesy is going to go badly at least 25% of the time. It's not worth the risk. And I guess men are "adult" enough to ignore this risk. I agree with the homeless one but spend an hour on my commute discussing literature with a stranger next to me, but that's simply not realistic. Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 06:51 PM
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Again this porn'n'games nonesense. Few people do this. Most have their hobbies two days a week and a drink at some bar on weekends. I go to local sports club 2x a week and 2x a week bouldering and 1-2x a week have a drink at one of the bars in town. The amount of women you meet this way is exactly zero too. Single women don't lurk at bars. 99% of the time there isn't even a single women present - doesn't matter which bar. Work is the best way to actually meet women. Single women and men will han…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 06:45 PM
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Obviously she's either insanely stupid or not really serious about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 06:25 PM
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Uhm?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 05:28 PM
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And? They are negligible minority?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 02:53 PM
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Reading your comments is a warning sign too. You see some bad traits and statistical artifacts and then use them as if they'd apply to every individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 02:18 PM
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Otherwise you'd have bias because "he didn't like her". You'll have to accept that psychology is not a bias free science and it won't ever be a bias free science as that is just impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 02:11 PM
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Women past 25 have trouble finding a guy because the guys they're into are still chasing 20 year olds. 25 is still decently young enough. (Almost) No 28 year old wants a 20 year old for a relationship. It's like dating an emotional child. It's meh. Of course - sexually sure - at least if it doesn't bother you that she's basically not yet a fully developed adult as far as her personality is concerned. She has to get pump'n'dumped first before she realizes that movies and instagram aren't real lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 01:51 PM
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I genuinely don't give a single fuck about gender stereotypes/roles. They only exist if you're willing to bow to them. 28,m. I like cooking. I don't really play videogames. I shave my armpits. I don't smoke, I don't drink alcohol, I don't do drugs. Never have and never will. I enjoy bouldering/climbing. I enjoy doing sports. I hate watching sports. It's too boring. And I just don't care that much about people I don't know. I regularily work out. I play various music instruments. I occasionally w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 01:44 PM
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Tinder used marketing techniques to lure men into using an app with the promise of simple and easy sexual availability. Wasn't it originally marketed as a dating app? Is it actually marketed as a casual sex app nowadays? The fact that men are surprised these apps and techniques don't work for them shows how unaware people are of female sexuality. Yes, they were unaware that women filter by looks this harshly due to the common myth that "men value looks/women value personality" which isn't true i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 12:56 PM
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"thirst ass man"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 11:19 AM
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I agree that this is sexism (obviously). But sexism doesn't necessarily translate to privilege. An example scenario would be two jobs A and B. Men have it easier in A, women have it easier in B. This sucks if you're a man and want B and it sucks if you're a woman and want A but overall neither has any sort of privilege due to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 10:38 AM
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But Boys get to eat all the sweets they want, as many as he can stuff in his face" then thats going to be experienced as a privilege that the boys get that the girls don't (given how much kids like sweets). Not if it would lead to diabetes and weight issues. Then the advantage would be on girls again. The fact that kids might not yet understand the logic behind something doesn't mean it's a general privilege in my eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 10:35 AM
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Go to a store and buy a jar opener with a leverage. That's how old people with arthritis or other conditions that reduce grip strength do it. Also... plenty of women are apparentely capable of opening a jar that don't work out. My mother can open jars (without an opener) and she's 54 and except aerobic (which doesn't really train any upper body or arm strength) she doesn't work out at all. "You need to work out to open jars" is a ridiculous statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 10:30 AM
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would you agree that without tools or weapons or drugs (imagine being stranded on an island naked fighting a woman) the man has the advantage? Absolutely, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 10:27 AM
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Yes, because discussion over biological differences are futile as men don't know what feels like to be a women and women don't know what it feels like to be a man. It's just impossible. You can't make useful comparisons based on that. And it opens up a whole rabbit hole of diseases that women get more often versus diseases that men get more often and all this stuff. That rabbit hole is just too deep I'd rather not go into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 10:26 AM
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You're not wasting time and excessive amount of money on shaving products. 50 cents more per blade set or something hardly is an excessive amount of money. It probably amounts to 2-3 buck more per month. That's not really excessive. It's a measurable difference - but not excessive. Waxing would be a bit more expensive with around 5 bucks per package and a package is probably a one-time-thing. If we're talking about excessive then I might quote that men have to pay an additional 3.25% in income t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 10:24 AM
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Gay men don't really count for that argument as they are essentially outliers and not representative of men. I don't mean to demean gays by that but arguing based on what they do and extrapolate that to heterosexual men sounds a bit off. Of course I'm not going to deny that men have a vastly higher urge to have sex and are aroused much quicker and this will inevitably result in promiscous behaviours if there's no single stable source that provides the sexual relief but if you're in an LTR you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 10:07 AM
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... if the girl has to be back at 10 then the boy is probably going back at 10 too because the date just ended :). In other terms given that men get such a bad rep and are apparentely dangerous you might even see it as an advantage that parents are protective or as discrimination against boys rather than a male privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 11:31 PM
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​ Of course that’s not the excuse she’s given, it might be “not yet” or... “I don’t do stuff on the first date” Then I personally wouldn't want to date her any further. Lacks confidence and honesty. But yeah... that's a neat story. I'm not quite sure what I'm supposed to do with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 11:28 PM
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Men are not shamed by society generally for being promiscuous in the way women are, and given that men like to be promiscuous, this puts them in a privileged position women don't share. Whether men actually like to be promiscuous or whether it's just a side-effect of women not entering long-term relationships easily would be up for debate. At least I don't see any shaming from men towards promiscuous men if that's what you mean by "not in the way women are". Men aren't generally expected to devo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 11:18 PM
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From watching TVs I assume you're talking about the "nobody ain't dating ma daughter" while holding a shotgun thing? I always found that baffling... I mean... it's ridiculously stupid. You expect her to be single forever? How stupid is that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 11:10 PM
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Government is a tricky business because the most power actually comes from the people - not from the government officials. We - as the people - can literally override (almost) any law or decision if we want to. And since women outnumber men over all ages theoretically women as a collective could overrule pretty much any man - if they want to. Theoretically it thus shouldn't really matter what gender the government officials have but of course there all sorts of practical loopholes and some decis…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 11:06 PM
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You are not expected to shave your body hair and no one really cares if you wear the same outfit all the time. And what advantage do I gain from that? You are not (or less) pressured to be beautiful and you are not valued solely for your looks. That's a candidate up for debate. You are not judged or shamed for being promiscuous. Well.. from what I'm reading on here it seems that women aren't too fond of players so I'd say this isn't even necessarily true? From personal experiences I'd say women …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 10:49 PM
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Not wondering if it's my looks that hold me back or thrust me forward in my job I wonder about that. Being able to go to any bar on my own and not look easy/wierd What do you mean by that? Much easier to take a whizz I don't know. It's physically easier for men to pee? But anyway... that probaly falls under the health category. I don't have to grow an alien inside me Health category. Also for all you know men might be happier if they could produce their own offspring? Maybe. How do you determine…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 10:42 PM
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Men are stronger, faster, and more aggressive than women in the VAST majority of cases. Which is an advantage in some contexts, yes. But we don't really live in an age anymore where this is going to be an advantage in your daily life. Do you happen to have examples of an advantage in daily life? If I were surrounded by 4 average women that wanted to harm me, I might be at a 6/10 on the worried scale. In an age where a lot of women carry weapons like tasers, stun guns and pepper spray or even act…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 10:36 PM
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What did your boyfriend gain from this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 10:29 PM
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Of course. But this has nothing to do with me being just male? It's always an advantage to have the same demographic as others.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 10:28 PM
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I'd say no. If there's demand some company will come and milk that market. Companies don't just miss out on huge opportunities to make money. It's widely known that a lot of products for women cost more but have pretty much the same ingredients which raises the question why you wouldn't just buy the cheaper one then? Nobody is really forcing you to spend that extra money - unless you like the "female" colors. I mean it's a marketing strategy. You don't sell products - you sell feelings. Women sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 10:27 PM
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Would that be privilege? There's an inherent tendency to favor people of one's own demographics. This is a known bias humans have and is likely the root of a lot of racism and discrimination - including gender discrimination. This gives men an advantage in certain situations and gives women advantage in other situations. Depending on whether your field is primarily male dominated or female dominated (in terms of who's making the hiring decisions) or dominated by a certain ethnicity or income gro…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 10:03 PM
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If school is mandatory for boys and not for girls, then that’s a regulation. But it's not law - unless this is the law. I specifically said country where school isn't mandatory which means that the regulation is that it isn't mandatory for either gender which in other terms means the law says it isn't mandatory. The decision to only send boys to school would thus be cultural - not regulatory and this it's a non-regulatory privilege. Otherwise you'll have to elaborate what you exactly mean by "no…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 07:01 PM
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Like are there ANY examples of possible legislative privileges that one gender could have? Having more rights would be a legislative privilege. Having better "protection" by the law would be a legislative privilege (i.e. higher sentences if the victim is of a certain gender). ​ However, based on your previous sentence I assume you meant to ask about "non legislative privileges". A non legislative privilege might for example be a culture where parents raise their children in such a way that it si…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 06:53 PM
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This is of course a legit criticism. However, inevitably we have to define a certain threshold for what is of significant benefit to an individual. Otherwise you'll argue things like "Men have an advantage in pissing contests due to their penis" and count that as a privilege but I think it's reasonable to say that this doesn't have any significant impact on an indiviual man's life not accounting for silly scenarios such as winning 1 Mio. $ in a pissing contest. ​ You may suggest a different or b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 06:44 PM
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I don't think you can collapse a persons worth into a single number.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 05:57 PM
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Why is this controversial?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 05:55 PM
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[citation needed].
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 05:51 PM
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Most crimes go unpunished.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 05:47 PM
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and false rape allegations are very rare. A.) The incidence doesn't define how "bad" something is to an individual. B.) You don't know whether they are "rare" C.) You don't know whether they will stay "rare" he is 'innocent until proven guilty' Legally, yes. Socially is different? But even so? If you get a conviction out of a false allegation this is relevant? Would you date a man accused of rape even if the case was dropped? Would you hire a teacher accused of child raped if the case was droppe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 03:16 PM
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No and no. It's called privacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 03:04 PM
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Greater strength doesn't really translate to much. Jobs that require greater strength are usually either less paid or well paid but the wear and tear is so hard that you have to file for disability in your forties. It's an advantage in sports sure but men rarely compete with women as they have seperate competitions or separate rating scales where women get bonus points which gives them an advantage which is why mixed teams will rank better if they have one decent women in it. The period one.. me…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 11:55 AM
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9 years of school 6-15/16 then years of job training. That's how it works in switzerland.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:29 PM
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America needs some serious change.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 03:41 PM
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Well my boss hired me for my expertise and not for drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 03:40 PM
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Right. If I assume my boss fires me for not sucking his dick then even his presence would be harassment. You can't just fire people like that. Except in shitty countries maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 02:47 PM
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Yeah as if a lawyer/officer esp. a female one would ever fine a woman. Not gonna happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 02:42 PM
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So, is anyone here willing to admit that their sex actually is enjoying some privilege that the other side does not have? The problem is you can't accurately define privilege and it doesn't apply to everybody but is more a statistical phenomenom. I ask women "What privileges do I have JUST because I'm male" and they usually can't even name a single one. Just watch this comment... none will be able to name a single privilege but I can name at least one privilege they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 02:27 PM
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Yeh. This is great PR material.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 02:20 PM
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their boss asking them for a drink when they're working late alone. That still doesn't even sound close to harassment. It's a simple, polite, non-sexual, non-offensive yes/no question
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 02:19 PM
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Not this again :(. Hmpf... alright fine.. There's a very radical way to look at it. Love is an illusion. It's a survival mechanism. It ensures reproduction. His love makes him protect the woman, makes him want to impregnate her and protect the offspring. Her love makes her want to get impregnated by him and birth the offspring and then care for the offspring. That's it. This is love. Everything else is just bullshit fantasy we get from movies and whatnot. If most men couldn't love then we'd prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 11:49 AM
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The old days are over, most men only make around average money (give or take). So does the average woman, so the average guy financially has nothing to offer. Yep and this is going to be a tough bullet for women too. If you're looking for men that are "above" you in materialistic matters this is only going to make it worse. even if he's not first choice If he's not first choice then he's "beta". These things aren't set in stone. What currently are beta traits might become alpha traits if women's…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 11:38 AM
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I was just making an analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 01:51 PM
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Lookup actual statistics. 2 years remission after 10 years of treatment is squat. "Treatable" in psychiatry's vocabulary means something entirely different than in our regular people vocabulary.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 12:55 PM
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Yeah. Psychiatry is shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 12:53 PM
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Yeh but the psychiatrist can't see BPD either. How do you imagine the diagnostic process for BPD looks like? you can tell if you have overactive thyroid, you don't need a doctor to tell that for you You don't. You can draw blood then measure Ca, TSH, (f)T3 and (f)T4 and some ANAs or even ultrasound yourself. What do you think a doctor does? They are not magicians.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 12:52 PM
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Nobody. It's a scam. The newest revisions of diagnostic codes will collapse all specific PDs into an umbrella term anyway. Specific PDs are an outdated and wrong way of looking at people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 12:46 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 12:39 PM
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People don't want to be single. They do whatever is necessary to not be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 12:33 PM
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And all women describe their ex as a "jerk", "loser" or "narcisisstic".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 12:24 PM
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So? Everybody knows that what is sexually attractive is different from what is romantically attractive. The trick is to balance these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 12:21 PM
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I'd consider looks as something distinct from other gender aspects thus I see no paradox there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 12:19 PM
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Sounds fair. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 12:16 PM
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The researcher was surprised that some of these “close” friends had had no contact for many years, and in a few cases, the close friend had passed away unbeknownst to the friend! Would be explainable by different usages of the word "friend" as "friend" is not an objectively defined term. It's certainly true that male friendships are tied more to activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 12:12 PM
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Our body constantly breaks down muscles if they aren't used. You do know that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 11:43 AM
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Our body constantly breaks down muscles if they aren't used. You do know that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 11:43 AM
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Well sorry for prefering real humans over sex objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 11:39 AM
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Can confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 11:36 AM
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Doesn't generally help. If you're contineously aroused with no release and it starts hurting it'll continue hurting for a while even past masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 11:11 AM
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Blue balls isn't a myth. Any urologist will tell you that. I mean... they don't visually swell or get blue but (that is a myth) it's very painful and people who got low-quality sex-ed will consult an urologist who then has to teach them this just because women won't accept (or shame/blame) male sexuality and it's "biology".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 11:07 AM
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Sure. But usually these discussions are limited in scope to ages where female infertility rate is <30%. Discussing the huge amount of women >50y just makes no sense for people 20-35y.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 10:58 AM
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If you have to put in any effort to be a 4 you are one of the VERY unlucky and rare women that are born with outright disfigurations. But yes, some have to live with this I'm afraid. Most are born such that they easily reach 6-7 with no effort. The only deviation from that is overweight/obesity or body art/piercings that aren't well perceived by most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 10:55 AM
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[citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 10:48 AM
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You wouldn't like it if I said men were given more muscular bodies than women Why not? It's true-ish. It's not true that men are naturally looking what people consider "muscular" however. That requires hours of gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 10:46 AM
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At the same time, society tells men that friendship is girly I stopped already after reading this bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 10:44 AM
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How do you compare such effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 10:41 AM
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An average woman doesn't even get that far, people don't even hear the words coming out of her mouth let alone take a moment to consider them. That sounds like an extreme exaggeration. An average man is more likely to listened to, believed, and taken seriously than even a beautiful woman. In what contexts? But yes, people have a tendency to side with people of their own gender and take them more seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 10:39 AM
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What privileges would that be?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 08:08 AM
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I only know forced marriages where neither gets any say, arranged marriages where both have a veto and arranged marriages arranged by outsiders and only parents have a veto.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 07:13 AM
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Would be stupid to say otherwise, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 03:31 PM
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Not if parents arrange it at young ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 03:27 PM
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men completely look over them I doubt that. Then that smart person would struggle attracting a suitable mate. I doubt that too. It just doesn't make sense. This would imply that women weren't able to attract suitable mates before modern make-up which I dare say the fact that we exist debunks that claim heavily. because next to her is a girl with make-up. This is of course a valid concern and the reason why women think they have to use make-up. They try to out-compete eachother. I still doubt tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 12:46 PM
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Humans don't survive - they slowly die. They die faster when single and they die very soon if they don't eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 12:36 PM
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You also don't have to eat. You eat voluntarily. It's just that not eating is linked to bad health outcomes and so is being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 12:12 PM
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But 99% of first dates are fucking awful Yeah, for BOTH sides though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 12:07 PM
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I doubt that. As sex is usually the entry door for relationships the barrier is to get casual sex first then hope she's looking for LTR and that you're good enough in bed. I don't see how men would have it easier to get a relationship if pretty much all relationships go through casual sex sooner or later except for ultra conservative women with an abstinence plea until marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 12:06 PM
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Incels are just normal men - unless you mean those reddit incels. I think the scope of this discussion is "people in modern western countries". You have to limit the scope otherwise we'd have to discus exotic tribes as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 12:02 PM
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They spend lots of time and money to be viewed as attractive How much time per week is that on average? they feel undesired because part of it is because of make-up. Then any smart person would just ditch the make-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 11:57 AM
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Or your definition of hygiene is off.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 10:56 AM
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Not a requierement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 10:54 AM
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to partners you didn’t pick Which applies to men as well - they too didn't pick their partners in such arranged marriages. It's just that there's a general assumption that men should be happy with any random women and thus have nothing to complain about. It makes no sense to portray such arranged marriages as a women's issue. This is great evidence of bias against men in our community.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 10:47 AM
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I'd do it if the location is a modern western country.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 10:41 AM
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It’s super scary for them to say no, because of what the reaction might be. And what would such a reaction be? The chances that you'll be harmed for saying No are very, very, very, very, very low. What if the dude finally catches feelings and they have to say no and possibly lose a friendship. So? That's always a risk if you befriend the opposite gender. Men worry about that too.. except not really because hey are adults and know the risk and can deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 07:12 AM
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... which would also be the case if men just generally swipe right more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 07:06 AM
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Ignore everything that you feel compelled to do in order to please other people. Drop the unrealistic expectations seen in movies. You need to put yourself "first" and be aware of what your own true desires are. Not desires you think you have because you saw it somewhere. Your own desires. Don't buy into the hype. This is something I screen women for. It tells me that she's in tune with herself, knows what she wants and has established a true strong core. A big flag for me is women who imitate o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 01:34 PM
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It's a safety issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 12:30 PM
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The same way men figure out whether a woman will be a decent sexual encounter. You don't. Best thing you can do is ask people who've slept with him/her and ask how it was. Or you make some assumptions that somebody just comming from a LTR probably has enough sexual experience. The inherent difficulty in finding "sex for fun" is that you don't know in advance whether it's going to be fun. You just don't know. To be honest I wouldn't do oral on a ONS (and I wouldn't expect oral from the other part…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 11:38 AM
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If there are X men in my vicinity who are fairly compatible with me, then it's better for me to me X+ 10 men rather than X+100 men. No, it's not. Your chance of meeting one of those X men is higher when X+100 men approach you than X+10 men approach you. This would only be the case if by X+Y men you mean that ALL the men of those X men approach you plus Y random men but then you're again arguing based on prior knowledge. What you have is a city with 10000 men. X of those are compatible with you. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 11:26 AM
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You guys really want to hear that women enjoy being hit on by unattractive fuck boys, don't you? No. We're not idiots you know. We know that getting hit on by people you have no interest in is annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 11:08 AM
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Look, I'm not saying that guys hitting on you that you have no interest in isn't annoying. It certainly is annoying. But it doesn't change anything about the fact that the more guys hit on you the more likely on of them is somebody you're actually interested in. Unless you factor in some neurociticism that you don't like guys that approach you to begin with. I don't even know how many guys lie for sex. I'd say it's not that common - maybe for ONS but I'd say that if you go for an ONS then both p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 11:05 AM
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It's not an age thing. It's an issue of the right kind of education and analytical thinking. You'll even see people with doctorates in chemistry who think that 1,2,3,4,5,6 is less likely to win the lottery than 11,21,34,5,27,19. The problem is people assign meaning where there's no meaning and people assume prior knowledge or assume that objects have memory. The balls in the lottery drawing machine don't know what number they have on them. The ball doesn't care about its number. The coin doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 10:39 AM
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where the women has to say yes or no with no data? ....? You don't have to. You draw a marble from the urn - then you look at its color and then you say "yes" or "no". This changes nothing about the fact that getting more draws means you're more likely to find a marble of a specific color you desire. It's as simple as the more marbles you have to pick from the more likely you pick one with a certain specific color. It's this simple. If you have 100 guys interested in you, then maybe 90 of those …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 10:29 AM
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Yes, and if I pick the right lottery numer then lottery is "easy". But that's again PRIOR KNOWLEDGE. I don't know which lottery numbers are the correct one. A buffet with 100 options is more likely to have an option you like than a buffet with 1 option. If I don't know what the buffet offers then I'll pick the buffet with 100 options because it more likely has an option that I like. I mean... you seem to have some distorted way of looking at statistics and combinatorics. That's not that uncommon…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 09:27 AM
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The more women that flirt with me the higher the likelihood that one of those women is actually Rihanna. Again, you're arguing based on prior knowledge. You don't know which women is Rihanna or not until you've actually flirted with them. If you have an urn with 10 red marbles and 1 black marbles the more marbles you're allowed to draw the more likely you are to pick the black marble. You're argument is literally that "drawing red marbles doesn't increase your chances of getting a black marble T…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 09:22 AM
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Mathematically If you have 10 women and 10 men then 8 women want one of 2 of those men and 10 men want 8 out of those women thus on average men have 2 women after them and on average women have 8 men after them. However, The average man will have 0 women after them and the average woman will have 10 men after them. That's the "math". Whether it is an 8/2 split is up for debate I just provided an example with imaginary numbers of how the math actually works out. But even if it's not a 8/2 the num…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 09:10 AM
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Judging based on what other women write on this subreddit the only distinguishing factors are height and money that make the difference between "good" and "bad". All other traits have no bearing on whether somebody is good or not... they are irelevant for that decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 09:01 AM
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"average" on this sub doesn't literally mean "average". It more tends to mean what an average person could be without spending extra effort. It doesn't refer to people who don't even spend effort to begin with. Also, the average women isn't obese in every country.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 08:59 AM
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Does meeting more men make it easier for women to meet a good man? My answer is that no, it does not. You enter the lottery. Does filling out a lot of tickets with numbers that aren't being drawn make it easier to win? No, of course not. The only thing that makes it easier to win would be to pick the numbers that are then being drawn. But you see that this doesn't work because you rely on prior knowledge which doesn't exist. You're arguing based on prior knowledge. You don't know which men are u…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 08:55 AM
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Ugly guys hitting on you doesn't help you find a hot boyfriend Maybe. But that's not how you compare things. If I deem 99.99999% of women "ugly" then of course I'll have a hard time finding a woman. But then any comparison is stupid. You can only compare these things if you assume that people are looking for a roughly average person of the target gender. That's all you can do. Otherwise anybody can just make up ridiculuous standards and claim "Dating is so hard for me but easy for you". If I onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 08:50 AM
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But they are opportunities? Each of them potentially is a candidate. That's an opportunity. The ratio of men that women would like has no bearing on whether they are an opportunity or not. If there are 10 open jobs I have 10 opportunities to get a job. Doesn't really matter if I don't like 5 of those - they still are opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 08:44 AM
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How is having the extra guys an advantage? The more people you get into contact with the higher your chances that there's somebody among them that is qualified. It's like having a buffet with 100 options vs. a buffet with 1 option. You'll have an easier time finding something to eat you like in the first buffet. It might require more time to look at all the options sure. On the other hand you could argue that men have to spend extra time to meet more women which compensates for the extra time wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 08:42 AM
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men don’t like a fit woman. I'd disagree. I'd agree that generally men don't like muscular women but that doesn't mean you can't be fit or even strong. Muscular in that context just refers to what is visible muscle mass which makes women look masculine if it's "too much". You can however almost look the same except that you've replaced some fat with muscle mass but not enough to be actually "visible" muscle mass (and vice versa, you can replace muscle mass with fat without looking fat). In that …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 08:36 AM
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To be honest that wouldn't be what bothers me. What would bother me is the idea that they're looking for someone to fill some secondary role rather than a primary relationship role. I.e. she's having a busy career and wants a husband for the sake of having a husband then meh... or a single mother wanting someone that can help her raise the baby or stuff like that which of course - is something you'd want and is reasonable to want as a single mother but if the primary motivation is a "helpful per…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 07:00 PM
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young partner is more of a trend among men, hence the term “trophy wife,” That's not really why the term exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 06:52 PM
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Of course not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 06:50 PM
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Men use women to boost their ego ALL THE TIME. If they're feeling down, they would talk to a female friend to feel better. He is still using the woman. Why doesn't it count if sex isn't involved? What do you know about humans? That's pretty much the more relevant question. How do humans socialize? How can humans socialize? What are healthy ways for humans to socialize? What is symbiotic socialization and what is egotistical socialization and what is manipulative? What level of reciprocation is d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 06:48 PM
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for all you men out there, under what circumstances (if any) will you enter into a relationship with a woman? Does it depend on the meeting of certain criteria? Let's just say that if you enjoy spending time with her a lot and wish to continue so and think you could potentially live in the same household and there are no practical barriers then -> relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 06:42 PM
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Meh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 05:53 PM
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No, see that's exactly why I told you to look up demographics by gender and age. The first questions you need to ask yourself is What does this number cover? What subset of the data is actually relevant in my case? What does the metric mean? The sex ratio of the entire population includes all ages. This means it's a neat number - but not relevant for our case. Unless you're willing to pair a 6 year old boy with a 70 year old women we can not use a metric that is derived from the whole population…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 03:18 PM
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And what do you think the general population consists of? Of people who were born. And before you answer "men die younger" look up the statistics first. The keyword for google is "demographic by gender and age".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 01:29 PM
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Not when you're around 30y.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 12:24 PM
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Do you think that there is someone for everybody? For women? Yes. For men? No. Not with current demographics. Not a chance in hell. Women have the great privilege to have a surplus of 4-7% men in the general population.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 06:29 AM
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Most people have thousands of people they could potentially be compatible with. Yeh, but they aren't necessarily single. Not too useful if you have thousands that are compatible with you and they aren't available. Also, in a large country even thousands of people aren't enough for it to be practical to meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 06:28 AM
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Applying makeup is buying into patriarchal standards of beauty Counting calories/dieting is buying into patriarchal standards of beauty It's not men making these standards thus they aren't really patriarchal. Every woman has a completely free choice free of consequences to not use make-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 09:42 PM
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I don't think there's such a relationship between being dependent and wanting to attract women. You can be independent and still have a partner. You don't suddenly become dependent once you have a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 09:38 PM
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I don't think any of those traits are inherently toxic. Whether they are toxic depends very much on the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 09:32 PM
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Well, in general you have multiple options to solve this problem. You get rid of alimony and child support. You split 50:50 all of the income that was earned together. After the divorce both people would use the regular social wellfare programs (unemployment benefits and such). Nobody has to pay child support - nobody has to pay alimony. And by nobody I mean neither of the two parties but it's actually paid by society as a whole as is regular social wellfare. This makes sense since the party tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 09:31 PM
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You've never applied for a job then? That's competition. Thus you compete - thus you'd have this toxic trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 09:22 PM
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What's abundance mentality? An abundance of women? There's no abundance of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 09:19 PM
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I guess the idea is that if your spouse starts being consistently abusive you should get out and if you don't - you are at least partially at fault for not leaving when you should've left.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 09:16 PM
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Many homeless men are either mentally ill or addicted. And you say that to further devalue them or to imply that it's their own fault? Healthy people often look down on homeless people engaging in drug seeking or alcohol abuse behavior because they think that this is due to bad character and that may be true, partially true but in a lot of cases it's just a secondary result. Healthy people underestimate the toll being homeless has on your mental well-being. It's also foolish to think that mental…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 08:13 PM
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This answer has nothing to do with my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 01:00 PM
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I think more men than I'd assume would fuck a goat if they were promised no one would find out and if you locked them in a room with only a goat for like, 4 weeks. .......................... ​ This is the same kind of argument like saying "humans want to drink pee" because "when left with no other choice they'll drink it". Just because somebody would do something in an extreme situation doesn't mean that this is their core defining common trait. Your education system has failed you. They should'…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 10:51 AM
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Just because other people are being stupid doesn't mean you have to be stupid. Unless you're actually stupid enough to do what other stupid people do but then the issue is that you're stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 10:47 AM
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The point in that hyperbole is that men's sex drives lead them to have indiscriminate sex with basically anything female and willing. A man wanting to fuck you essentially means you have a pulse. Let me guess: You'll also think that such sex is pleasurable for the man? And as long as he has an erection it means the sex is pleasurable to him? You think a man fucking a woman who he'd have no interest in fucking if he had another choice is something pleasurable rather than let's say a necessary but…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 10:46 AM
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Men literally fuck goats. Could you please stop using a VERY extreme end of the spectrum to make an argument about the whole width of the spectrum? It's stupid. There are also known cases of women deriving pleasure from being fucked by animals or even trees. Based on that women are goats and men are donkeys. Great. How is this view useful or even just correct? If a man wants to fuck you, it means you are at least on par with a goat, which is not particularly high praise. Why would you even think…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 10:42 AM
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No, someone wanting to dump a load of cum in you and treat you literally like possession doesn't mean he values you as person. I have to go with this: Women are the ones interpreting it that way. This is just your interpretation of the act. Women don't derive any worth from being a breathing Kleenex. I would have guessed that women derive something from sex as otherwise I'd have a hard time figuring out what their incentive is to have sex. But fair enough - I'll believe you that women don't deri…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 10:38 AM
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Competence is also just a secondary trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 10:27 AM
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Only if there's an external benefit from being disagreeable. If being disagreeable weren't an attractive trait then it'd lose against agreeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 10:23 AM
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Wrong. His date isn't happy. Thinking he only did it to big note himself. Stupid people in a nutshell: Premature assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 10:19 AM
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I don't get it. Since when has it become the goal to be inhumane?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 10:16 AM
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Some guys actually walk around in t-shirt and shorts all the time. Some people just don't feel cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 10:15 AM
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There is - but I guess the clientel is women >40y rather than women 18-40. But we'd have to ask an actual male hooker about his clientel demographics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 08:04 PM
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Not disagreeing with that fact but this doesn't answer the "bigger meaning" part.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 08:03 PM
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Arguably I guess "celibate" refers to physical intimacy rather than simply "any sex" because otherwise - yes - everybody could just hire a prostitute. Prostitutes might be able to offer sex in countries where it is legal but they can hardly offer physical intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 08:01 PM
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men absolutely do judge women by their looks Of course they do. Humans do that. You also automatically judge people based on the clothes they wear. also guys absolutely do love to show off their girlfriends (assuming they're hot) and they do judge other men by the quality of women they date. I know, but that's hardly a significant portion. every single woman we see gets automatically evaluated at least into "absolutely unfuckable" / maybe / hot categories I'm aware of that (called binary or tern…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 06:08 PM
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And responses like this aren't pure ignorant projection?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 06:05 PM
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Frankly, that sounds like woman talk to me. Because you assume that men derive some bigger meaning from sex with prostitutes?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 01:02 PM
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I'd agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 12:45 PM
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They seem not to be too focused on the actual sex part, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 12:26 PM
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I have no specific point in mind other than what I've mentioned near the bottom of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 12:19 PM
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Welp isn't that the fucking deal? Sex and commitment? Even if that were the case sex and commitment is distinct from sex for commitment. Men judge women by looks only and all the time, for sexual attraction. In a way, yes. We all constantly judge our surroundings. When I enter the restaurant I immediately know whether it's comfortable or not. When I see a painting I immediately know whether I like it or not. Everything else matters only if they're asked to be providers. I evidently disagree with…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 12:16 PM
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Wingman is something you see in TV, not in real life. Doesn't really happen in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 07:22 AM
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Men get resentful when women have casual sex and sleep around in their youth or when she had a string of shitty relationships. The men looking for a relationships? I could see that - since this hinders relationships. It might make them feel that they were not good enough and now that she realizes it's not going her way she starts using you as her backup plan. It's like making fun of your friends car and how 'crappy' it is then suddenly when you realize you need to borrow a car it's not a 'crappy…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 09:30 PM
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That's a pretty harsh tone to speak of other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 05:00 PM
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How so? Where's the difference between a guy acting nice hoping to have success vs. a guy acting not-nice to have success? They both manipulate. What if they're not acting but this is their true personality? Is that still manipulative? Being a dick and being nice is kinda mutually exclusive so I don't see how any of this would make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 12:09 PM
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Ultimately all partners want sex from eachother and behave in ways to actually have sex - you might as well say that all behaviours are rooted in a desire for sex even if it's super indirect. ​ But yeah... those are surprisingly good points.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 12:01 PM
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Parents also tell kids not to smoke, not to binge drink and not to take drugs. Yet, must of them do at least one of those things for an extended period of time until they get sick of it. If women date "fuckboys" (whatever this term exactly means) then it's because "fuckboys" are intrinsically alluring one way or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 11:26 AM
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Every ex is a jerk, yet they didn't seem to be jerks the moment they were dated. I don't think that most of them are actually jerks rather than this being a post-hoc pejorative.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 11:20 AM
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> You notice these women having their epiphanies at 27-33 because it confirms something you already suspected or believed. That's confirmation bias though, not selection bias. > You don't notice the women who have relatively undramatic dating lives and settle down with their eventual spouse around 23 or 24 That's selection bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 11:16 AM
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There are different kinds of wrongs. Recording your boss maxing sexual remarks is wrong because it's illegal to do it. Whether the boss actually made sexual remarks or not has no bearing on whether your actions were wrong. Both actions are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 08:17 AM
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If I had to guess it's because they think it makes them more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 09:45 PM
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Yeh - that's why taking them long-term and/or in high dosages is generally avoided by the medical community. Or at the very least prescribed together with a protonpump inhibitor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 09:41 PM
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Do you have your flair because you regularily take long-acting NSAID?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 09:20 PM
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It's still a crime but it's not legally rape. It's sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 09:19 PM
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It's not "bullshit", it's a matter of likelihood. There are lots of women who can have children at that age but it's not a safe bet anymore. At 35 the infertility rate is ~20% 1/5. The question is what risk you'd be willing to take. You can wait BUT it reduces your risk of being able to give birth. In the 40s you're more likely to be infertile than fertile. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_and_female_fertility for those who are interested in the exact numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 07:49 PM
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yeh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 07:19 PM
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Yup. Besides the beginner stuff regular bouldering starts at comparable to a climbing 6c grade so it is tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 05:08 PM
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Well evolution is just a theory. It's technically correct to say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 02:02 PM
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No. The reason is that rape requires a female victim in my country. So answer #1 is technically correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 01:57 PM
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If you're a virgin you're unlikely to perform the way she wants you to the first dozen times, yes. Sex is difficult. But this only matters once it gets that far so this shouldn't stop you from at least trying to get that far. They don't know you're a virgin. They'll know once you've had sex with them, sure, but no matter how bad it was at least you got some experience. Some even say that you should just drop any standards and try to get as many ONS as possible until you have the sexual experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 01:49 PM
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For the first two questions this is of course correct. The data doesn't support the claims. But what about the last question? Oh BTW you're allowed to make the assumption that the data is itself correct because otherwise nothing can be concluded from anything obviously. But to be fair the last question kinda requires you to have some knowledge about my country's laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 12:41 PM
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You can lose virginity by hiring a prostitute (if it's legal in your country). If it's only about losing virginity then hire a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 11:25 AM
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Hard to tell. Not my area of expertise. It might have been that in ancient times (like before stoneage times) that men would die far more frequently than women even at earlier ages. But I don't know. It might also have been that some men were kept from reproducing and more or less had a status of a "slave" within a group of humans. But I don't know. That's a question you'd have to direct to somebody who has this kind of expertise. I could only offer you some of my speculations but that's hardly …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 11:22 AM
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I'm having trouble following. Do you mean that since medium class men hook up with low and medium class men that there' should be high class women left and low class men left? You're missing one very important factor: demographics. If you would right now pair every woman younger than 70 with every man younger than 70 you'd be left with 7% single men. 7 out of 100 men can be low class and single without there being women that aren't taken yet because these 7% of men literally can't take a woman b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 08:21 AM
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The good thing about being a cute woman is that once you've "lured your prey in" you don't even need to spend effort to try to act sexy because like the most mundane thing will be sexy enough. Like her trying to get something from the top shelf so she stretches and her shirt moves slightly up and the butt sticks out and boom if you're horny you'll have to start trying to not get an erection just because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 09:54 PM
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Yeh... it's like "too much". This would be what I imagine when I hear "cute" (yeh - I watch bouldering videos). The women in the picture above just doesn't look like she'd be any fun around. I know, I know, it's judging her based on what she wears and stuff but I'm also just human.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 09:44 PM
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When someone says "sexy" I always imagine this. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 09:34 PM
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But anyway... it's probably more red than blue ;). I'd even say that with red pill your chance of finding a partner is higher than with blue pill attitudes. It's just that in reality I'm far too eccentric to be either of those two.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 09:27 PM
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Let's just say that what Neo and Morpheus thought was the real world was actually still just the matrix. The red pill only gets you one layer out of the matrix but not out of all layers. The yellow pill is the pill that Neo should have swallowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 09:05 PM
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Yellow pill. but it apparentely pisses red pillers off when I say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:35 PM
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I'm fairly statist and socialist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:30 PM
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I guess we'd have to argue about what the distinction between cute and sexy actually is. Usually it seems to mean that sexy is when a woman dresses and uses make-up in such a way that she predominantly shows off her physical traits and exaggerates her physical traits. Cute means a woman who dresses in a way not to hide her attractive traits but also not putting too much attention to it. Since women aren't stupid the women who dresses sexy knows what this effect has on men and so does the cute wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:26 PM
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You give everyone an education, demand drops, pay drops. No extra taxes. Yeh, it'll probably equalize. That's why proper wealth distribution should be a priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 07:15 PM
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The trick with funding education is that the government gets the funding back in taxes because you earn more later on in life. The government wouldn't be funding it if it were a loss for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 06:43 PM
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Switzerland's been doing this for years and it seems to be pretty sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 06:42 PM
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If a person hasn't figured out how to navigate society well enough to afford a child, they sure as hell aren't able to be good at training a child to support itself either. I'd disagree. That's not what we're seeing in underdeveloped countries i.e. where parents try the best they can to send their childre to school even though they themselves never went to school. Parents have a tendency to want their children to do better than they did. You're only perpetuating the problem if you don't fund pub…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 06:32 PM
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Having money doesn't automatically mean a person mature. .. but according you not having it automatically makes you less mature and an unfit parent. But not having money should prevent people from being a parent at all because it takes money to create a family. I still fail to see how this translates to being an unfit parent. Not having enough money might be a practical barrier to having children but that's about it. Pouring money into a system that will inevitably create deeper financial issues…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 06:22 PM
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What life skills? I have two degrees in computer science making me one of those rich folks. How does any of this translate to me being more mature, a better parent or have more life skills? Nothing. I just have more money, significantly more than your average person but that's ALL IT MEANS. I don't have any more life skills than a cashier working for minimum wage. Not. a single. life. skill. more. The only and I mean that absolutely seriously the only difference between me and a cashier is that …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 06:09 PM
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Also you're forgetting that having children at 45 is almost impossible because women at that age aren't exactly too fertile anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 05:57 PM
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But you don't deepen their poverty. If you give them money you make them less poor. You don't get poorer by getting money, you get poorer by not getting money. A 45 year old couple that can't financially support one child is definitely not mature enough yet and also has other priorities to tackle first. How? Because they were born poor and remained poor? Because they don't have the skills to get a job that pays well? How the fuck does any of this have to do with you being mature enough to raise …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 05:55 PM
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If a 15 year old wants to have a child, should we subsidize that? No. Why? They are not mature enough yet and have other priorities they should tackle first. If anything we should provide financial incentives to the higher class individuals to have children since we are seeing a decline in birthrates in the upper class. Why? They already have the money for it. No need to give them even more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 05:43 PM
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If the finances are covered by the government then for all intended purposes you have the money you need to afford a child. Of course you can argue about "why should I pay for somebody else's child" but that's a philosophical question. In my country everybody is guaranteed a livable income (there are some practical loopholes but for the majority of people it applies. You can get caught between two government agencies sueing eachother over which agency has to pay for you and this leaves you with …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 05:20 PM
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Psst. The US is not the sole country in the world. Maybe that's why the US has so many problems because they don't look at other countries thinking "we could do that as well".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 05:05 PM
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Partner is just a gender neutral term for wife/husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 04:59 PM
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I don't know. Ask a psychologist or some of the women who do that. I'm not qualified to answer this. It's the macho/softie complex. But why exactly that is I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 04:58 PM
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Of course it would show. But you don't have to come up with a complicated system where people need to prove first that they should be eligible for it. Obviously you think that money is what qualifies you for being a parent. I disagree with that. There's enough money - it's just poorly distributed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 04:55 PM
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Are you retarded? You can subsidize children automatically. Nothing to show - everybody gets it - you'll just pay it back in taxes if you earn enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 04:24 PM
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No, moron. They can afford it. If the gov gives me one million I can afford a car.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 03:58 PM
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Also you need to start thinking about the bigger picture. Poor people tend to remain poor withou subsidies. You need to think long-term. If people can't afford families your mental health spending will go through the roof. People need that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 03:57 PM
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No, not unfit. If it's subsidized they can afford it which according to your stupid definition would make them fit for it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 03:54 PM
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They are not unfit. They just might not have the money for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 03:52 PM
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Medians don't exclude outliers. Outlier exclusion is a process you usually do BEFORE you apply other statistical measures. If in your example 99 would be an outlier then the median would be 20.5 if you'd exclude that outlier. A median is just a fancy word for .5-quantile.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 12:10 PM
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I thought men hated career women Nah. It's not the career. It's not the money. It's the personality traits if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 12:06 PM
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It seems he assumes that women will marry men for financial security have maintenance sex with them but secretely fuck more manly men behind their husbands' back.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 11:51 AM
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Step #1: Change that profile picture.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/01/19 09:22 AM
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That picture is just terrible though.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/01/19 09:21 AM
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That's why I said "especially".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 09:19 AM
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I also like to say that depression&anxiety are probably tied to stress related to job and education. Not everybody is meant to actual go to study but to actually have a good income later on you kinda have to. That's why you have people who cruise through study like it's the easiest thing every, people who can make it with a bit of effort and people who break down before every exam. It's a stupid system. We need to start ensuring that even low skill work gets you enough money to afford a family. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:53 AM
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You probably also can't force him to work either?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:49 AM
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but she doesn't have the final word? Why does she have the final word?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:46 AM
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Probably because you can see a zillion stars but not wet paint.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:45 AM
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Yeah I literally can't express how wrong this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:43 AM
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"worked"? They still do in poor countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:43 AM
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Especially when men had to fight in wars guess who did the farm work? The women and children of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:42 AM
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The reason you'd usually not want to send women to war has nothing to do with them not being physically or mentally fit for war but because they are the factories of new humans. If you're going to war you'll need a steady stream of new humans if you intend for your civilization to survive this war especially when the war is long and you don't expect peace even after one war has ended and there might be yet another war. You wouldn't send the factories to war. Yes, this sounds dystopian but a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:41 AM
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Men are going to have to start thinking of their wives as partners. And how is this different compared to status quo?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:28 AM
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The rich are getting richer is pretty much what we saw over the last years so... that's a reasonable guess to make that the rich will get richer. I also believe we are very close (probably within 5 years) to the peak of things changing and people actually seeing it. That's a very common belief. We're living in a period of major change.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:27 AM
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I have never gotten a good answer to this It's just a semantic issue. If you're a cancer charity claiming that you trying to cure illnesses then people would start asking about "yeah... but what about HIV?". If you make it clear that you're only concerned with cancer then you don't run into this issue. The problem is feminism has started to push this "equality" stuff as an attempt to include more men in it but as a downside this caused people to expect that feminism addresses all genders issues …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:23 AM
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This is essentially one of my main critique on some groups of feminism. If you start sending the wrong message towards men you'll gradually lose that support or worse. In my opinion it'd be better off to include men in this rather than exclude them or "pissing on them". I think it's just so much better long-term if one actually focuses on equality. The problem with the wage gap and statistics about wage gap and related topics is that your average person doesn't have tertiary education to know ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:18 AM
2

Public appearance vs. actual goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 07:59 AM
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"paying for something others got for free" Paying for what and what are others getting for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 07:58 AM
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Yeah... that doesn't work. It's not human. Humans require both physical and emotional intimacy for mental well being. What the other gender thinks of you is of great importance when you're trying to fulfill those basic needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 07:54 AM
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That's why smart countries tax car drivers to fund public transport. As much as car drivers hate this it's the only scalable way to move masses of people because cars are terrible at doing that, waste a lot of space AND are much more expensive than properly designed public transport.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 07:47 AM
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Switzerland.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 07:42 AM
1

I'm not even on social media anymore - other than that I need a Facebook account to sign into other stuff of course. Social media just has nothing to offer. It never really had anything to offer besides "staying in contact" but nowadays you can do that with a whatsapp chat just fine. god damn expensive from both a time and a financial standpoint after a certain age. I knew a guy who was a very serious gym goer and I dare say very attractive (although I'm not a woman) and he genuinely said he wis…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 10:08 PM
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I support alimony but it should be time restricted to a few years so that the women has enough time to find a job again. If she's got a job again then alimony should stop. I'd guess in some countries it already works like that anyway. Alimony isn't a free pass to not work. Why is the man responsible for the risk she decided to take? Because she sacrificed her career for the good of the family? Also she didn't decide to stay at home - you both decided that - technically. If you weren't willing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 09:55 PM
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I don't know too much about america to be honest. I live in Europe afterall. And in Europe we tend to do that because appartments closer to big public transport hubs are more expensive. I had a neat 3.5 room 80sqm appartment for 1.1k per month but an hour away (walk, bus, train, then walk) from the university I worked at. 4h commute sounds like ~400km?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 09:38 PM
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I would have met all your criteria in my country. 28y, 80k a year (two degrees in computer science), 125k in savings, no debt, I neither drink or smoke nor have I ever really done that - I tried but it's disgusting. Looks is hard to tell... I'm certainly muscular seeing as I'm a fairly frequently climbing, doing parkour and member of a sports club so I'm going to be so narcissistic and say I'd probably be at least 4/10, I'm not body builder muscular because yeah I'm a climber - not a gymbro. As …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 09:32 PM
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Then it might be time to move if possible. That's how life goes. Not everybody can afford an appartment in a big city because they tend to be expensive. So you move to the closest village paying much less rent and take the bus to work. Lots of people have to do that. Although I'd be interested in knowing why urban areas are twice as expensive? The only real variable shoud be rent and even if rent were twice as expensive you wouldn't need twice as much money. Granted, health insurance premiums ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 08:10 PM
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That or stay single? I mean if not enough men meet your job criteria then that might be because the job market etc. doesn't actually allow for that to be the case in the first place. It's not like men are predominantly slobs who strive for low paid jobs - quite the opposite. Every man knows women are somewhat drawn to men with money so you can be damn sure that most men will try everything they can to fulfill that criteria. If most men don't fulfill that criteria then this is probably due to eco…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 08:05 PM
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That’s such a pile of crap. The majority of men I know in their late 20s and 30s are in relationships or married. Oh yeah? Then why do all the statistics show that >60% are single? And there are more singles than ever? There's no shortage on single people, not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 08:00 PM
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First of all, if you need to lower the standards I listed above what a "good man" is, that is an indicator that there are not enough "good men" out there. That entirely depends on your definition of "good men". Arguably if the MAJORITY of men are like X and X isn't good enough for you you have high standards. That'd be like me demanding that every 50 year old looks like Marisa Tomei. If I get to define what "isn't too much to ask for" I can put that boundary as high as I want. Instead, one shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 07:56 PM
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I was just saying that there isn't necessarily only one system that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 07:10 PM
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Well played.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 04:37 PM
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Survival is an immediate concern, and only the naturally selected system works. a.) it's not always an immediate concern. Humans had they great ability to plan ahead and this is arguably what allowed us to come this far because we plan ahead. We're not just concerned about our survival today and tomorrow but we're also concerned about long-term survival and invest into things that won't pay out until years later. b.) nature doesn't favor one system over the other. There are many viable systems t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 04:34 PM
2

There's more to fighting than physical strength. It's a much more diverse skill. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 04:26 PM
1

....? What are we supposed to do with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 04:22 PM
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Ah. I meant "a month" obviously. Well... if you have a stay at home partner then this obviously works because then you don't need those extra 1.5k per month. If you have two incomes it works as well because then you can use half of one income for the daycare. Either way works but it stops working when you're separated because then you're paying almost twice the household spending as you would when you've lived together. That's why divorced life is so expensive. Living together is just so much be…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 04:11 PM
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That's 1.5k a year. You can afford that if both are working, yes. I don't think you can afford that with a single income (i.e. after you've divorced), no.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 04:05 PM
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If you hire a babysitter for 25bph then this eats away pretty much what you earn during the day so you might as well stay home.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 03:51 PM
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If you can afford them, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 03:50 PM
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Not if she's got young kids. One party has to stay home for the first few years unless you can find somebody who watches your kids for you. If he was the stay at home dad then he'll probably get custody and the alimony from her obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 03:45 PM
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There's a lot of practical issues here anyway. If you work full time - how are you supposed to take care of your kids if they are <6 years? There's not that much choice other than to give her custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 03:40 PM
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What do you mean by not healthy? What the hell makes them unhealthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 02:51 PM
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Personal taste. To me #1 would be 10/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 10:42 AM
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Ok. This is a woman with BMI=24.1 This is a woman with BMI=23.8 This is a woman with BMI=24.1 This is a woman with BMI=24.3 This is a woman with BMI=23.6 There's a reason why BMI was chosen to be considered normal between 18.5 and 25 because it just is normal. Maybe if they predominantly have fat only (as muscles are way more dense than fat) they can look overweight with 23-25 BMI. If I had 10kg less of muscles but 10kg more of fat I'd look overweight too (but I'm a guy so meh).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 07:22 AM
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In my country what you had before the marriage is safe anyway. You only share the income you get while being married. When you seperate each gets 100% back from what they introduced to the marriage (if that money is still available) and then the rest is a 50:50 split. Also, inheritances aren't split. If you inherit 1 Mio. bucks you can keep that even after divorce. I mean this makes the most sense. Marriage is a contract. Once you marry you're not legally an individual person anymore but a coupl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 07:05 AM
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To spread the yellow pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 07:02 AM
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I think it looks weird when women have stick thin arms. I know it's not the case because bone density is the same but they look "brittle". It doesn't look "healthy".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 10:05 PM
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If http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-EtBIoZ9Jtqs/UkjkXn9aTmI/AAAAAAAAJP0/X29lBIuJxZ4/s640/beauty3.jpg is accurate you'd have to be crazy to diet with a BMI of 23.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 10:00 PM
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Nah. Affection gets me going the most. Physical touch without affection is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 09:48 PM
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I think you marry if you want to live together and have a family. If the woman works and the man doesn't he'll "profit" but I mean unless you have no kids usually both will work so meh. And if one stays at home for the kids of course the other will compensate that with money. Really. People don't use prenups that often. What you had before the marriage is safe anyway. Prenups are more for ridiculously rich folks to prevent gold digging. If you support somebody who doesn't want to work and doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 09:42 PM
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Well, I'm sorry. That's how I work. I'm not twitter generation. I spend time and thought writing posts. Sometimes up to 30minutes per post. I don't understand how people can have twitter style discussions with either side just throwing two sentences around all the time. I mean... what's the point of that :)? If I'd want people agreeing or disagreeing with everything I say without actually providing arguments I'd just write a reddit bot that randomly does one of those things to each of my comment…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 09:02 PM
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Sure, but just because somebody is looking for a relationship doesn't mean somebody is willing to stay with you because you had sex with them. You don't know whether they'll stay or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:54 PM
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Yes, but to me inflation implies that it is higher than the "truth". In that sense it doesn't inflate self-worth, it just provides them with an accurate measurement of self-worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:52 PM
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But how can group X be at fault if none of the individuals are "at fault". Trees are a great example. The tree who is highest will get the most sunlight because it will cast shadow onto other plants and smaller trees and there's no risk of other trees casting a shadow on it depriving it from sunlight. Now, trees could all grow to 1m and not further. This means they don't need to invest a lot into growing and they'd all get the same amount of sunlight. However, one tree grows to 1.20m and thus ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:51 PM
1

So from what I guess by other people's post... Chad is a concept. It's not a personality type and strictly defined set of traits with clear borders it's more an abstract concept that represents the type of men that are in high demand as sexual partners from women. In that regard Chad almost MUST exist unless women's desires are uniformly distributed among the spectrum of what men can offer which is obviously not even remotely the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:23 PM
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But then it's not an individual woman's fault. That's just how she needs to act if she wants to have a chance with prince charming. And to say it's "women's fault" in general implies that women have a singular end goal and aren't just trying to get a leg up (heh) on other women. Semantics. I wouldn't say that "Group X is at fault" implies anything about that. It could be a sum of individual people's fault or a systemic fault but in either case system faults only exist because of individuals acti…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:18 PM
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Humans do that. They project people as enemies. This allows them to ignore other people's opinion and facts. It's a very common defence mechanism. If I can portray somebody as evil I have an easier time ignoring whatever it is they say, even if it is true but if I paint them as evil I won't even consider whether it's true or not. Just watch the post history of some of the regulars here. As soon as they'd have to provide actually sound arguments or are confronted with something that could be true…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:00 PM
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How much attention do you think the average man gets on social media that he is able to have it inflate his ego? 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:55 PM
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How does this inflate her worth rather than accurately depicting her true worth? It might inflate her ego and narcissism though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:54 PM
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That's why I strongly believe in settle for what you like - not what you wish you had.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:53 PM
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For all practical purposes you don't know that in advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:49 PM
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I think OPs point is that it's this intra-female competition that acts as an enabler of pump'n'dump. Namely that many compete for a few - which means the few have a pool to pick from and can use their scarcity as a leverage. You can just as easily say it's the thirsty guys fault for orbiting girls and giving them a false sense of attractiveness that gives them the confidence to throw themselves at Chad's whim. Wouldn't they be drawn to an attractive person regardless whether other guys are after…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:47 PM
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When someone perpetuates an action on someone else, that person made the choice to do what they did, regardless of the circumstances. Sex requires mutual consent though so technically it would have been both peoples choice so the blame would have to go to both of them. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:41 PM
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And what is the definition of feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:56 PM
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Yeah, but scientific research doesn't really tell you anything. What field? What subspecialty? What topic? Even if you say "I do research in chemistry" that still carries very little information about what you actually do. Chemistry is big.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:35 PM
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Let's say 100% of men secretely conspire against women and refuse any contact that isn't initiated by women... that is women do all the approaching and all the work tied to approaching. Would women start to be creepy towards men and appear thirsty? I'd say probably yes. You have the moral high ground then. If you get approached at places that you personally find inappropriate - and you will - you can just write it off as them being creepy, desperate or thirsty. If you get approached you can defi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:55 PM
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No, and even if that were the case then she wouldn't have been interested in a relationship with me anyway so why would I care then? If she's interested in a relationship she'll keep communication open.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:26 PM
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Men die off more frequently and younger than women do. Yes, past 65. Before 65 you'll usually find more men than women, with a few notable exceptions in countries that have been war ridden or similar. This doesn't effect dating at all that happens during age ranges where starting a family is still viable in most peaceful modern country with decent healthcare. While it is true that women outnumber men you have to look at what age they start doing that because men don't just start dropping like cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:19 PM
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Sure, and we can go back and forth between blaming eachother like 13 year olds without providing any arguments. I can go down to that level too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:03 PM
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I know that this is your strategy. You say A, somebody says the opposite of that, then you say "so you finally agree with me" and throw in some insults on the way. It's a neat strategy, but what are you trying to accomplish with this? If you're here to annoy and insult people then keep doing that. If you want to change people's opinion or give them a wider perspective then you should reconsider that strategy. There's no winner here. There's no jury. Your life won't improve with such a toxic stra…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 03:29 PM
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All relationships do not being with casual sex. I know that. I know that women's biological clock eventually runs out with a 50% infertility rate at 35 although fertility medicine and procedures can push that boundary a bit back but there's still some risks associated, yes. This of course creates pressure to establish a stable relationship around 30+ish if you haven't managed to do that until then or in case you were unlucky and you've just had a long relationship that didn't work out. That is i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 03:18 PM
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Yeah, but isn't SMV what determines whether you're going to fuck for the first time in the first place? No fuck, no relationship. Thus SMV is more important than RMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 02:29 PM
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I thought modern relationships nowadays start from casual sex such that first she vets you whether you're good enough in bed before an actual relationship starts going - especially for early adults. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 02:06 PM
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whose negative words and actions are always consequences of male failure, neglect or abuse. Hu?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 01:41 PM
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It would mean that since sex is a requirement SMV stuff is what dominates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 01:38 PM
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I thought modern relationships nowadays start from casual sex such that first she vets you whether you're good enough in bed before an actual relationship starts going - especially for early adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 01:35 PM
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No, but when we're talking about whether something exists/is a thing we usually mean "is it a thing of significant prevalence" not "has anybody ever seen somebody that does". Similar to guys flashing their genitals in public transport. It happens, yes. But it's nothing even close to having a significant prevalence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 01:21 PM
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What advantage is there in the RMV? Might be a dumb question but I'm still relatively new to this whole shebang.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 01:00 PM
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Are you suggesting that is is not MEN who are enforcing/policing this dynamic among each other? I would suggest that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 12:54 PM
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Ok, so no need to be an ass, No need to, no. But when I read your general comments I have a hard time not wanting to be an ass to you even if I have no personal grudge against you (yet). I'm sorry. It won't happen again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 12:51 PM
1

Sure, if you think that when I say "I like pommes" I really mean "I want to hunt deers".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 12:43 PM
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To what are you disagreeing?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 12:37 PM
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am i alone in thinking that pressure on how to be a man comes from women and not men? No, all this shit about boasting about sexual success virgin shaming and all that shit that men are allegedely giving other men I've never seen that. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist but the prevalence and extent is insanely exaggerated. I have no idea what people think when they talk about that stuff. Why would men give a fuck about with how many other women another man has slept? Nobody cares for as long as…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 12:19 PM
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Sounds like he's hot af then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 12:11 PM
1

Yeah but this will change if women become CEOs more. You're just lucky that not many women held those positions in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 12:06 PM
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If I'd go out and a woman would want to bang me after one night I'd reject her too but this has nothing to do with me thinking she's too easy or any of those stupid reasons but it'd be simply because I'm not interested in a primarily sexual relationship or ONS. However, this wouldn't even mean that I reject her absolutely. She'd be free to keep contact alive to see where things are going.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 11:31 AM
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please explain why men in every society commit all kinds of crimes and horrible acts in the name of money. What contexts are you talking about? Men will naturally join gangs and cartels in countries where there are no jobs and no decent perspectives available for them. This essentially becomes their job and is their only means of income. In an region with no jobs people will naturally flock to earn money the illegal way because you need money to live and if illegal stuff is the only way of makin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 11:27 AM
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But he always rejects them in the end for some reason. I suspect its because he looks down on those women. He wants a girl that isn't as easily persuaded by dumb talk and party behaviour. Or maybe he has no interest in a ONS? Maybe he rejects these women because he thinks they're after an ONS only and that's not what he's aiming for? and say stuff like "you are fucking ugly", and those girls are baffled and intrigued by his behaviour. For some reason this works. What age are the people involved …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 11:13 AM
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Oh. I appologize. I didn't gauge the whole context apparentely :(.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 09:19 AM
1

1 time since 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 09:00 AM
1

Ray Thor "Blade" Gillette. They call me "raythor" but most pronounce it like "razor". Sometimes they call me "razor blade".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:58 AM
1

What's a plain jane?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:57 AM
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Not initiating contact first, But you don't have to play that game? It's not that it's required from women to not initiate contact. It's that they have no intention to do it. being "mysterious" What does that even mean? The fact of the matter is men will never LTR a girl that approaches them first and is super blunt about what she wants That'd be news to me. Why would men not LTR such a girl? Granted, they won't LTR you just because you approached them but I don't see how women approaching men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:56 AM
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You'll get the ideal body type just by eating normally. How is the ideal body type not accessible for most? You just don't have to be overweight. That's not that hard. I'd even argue that starving yourself is much harder than having a normal weight. Having a normal weight just means to eat normally, everything else oughta require much more effort. ​ The prevalence of eating disorders according to some 2012 study (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3409365/) is 1.8% which is around the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:47 AM
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No, but it's enough data to debunk the myth that men care more about looks than women do. I don't even know why people thought that in the first place. It's one of these things that everybody thought it was true but it actually wasn't true the whole time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:41 AM
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Learning the truth about men, that they really only care about your looks etc, is just as harmful for women. What makes you think this is the "truth"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:38 AM
1

Because you don't want to be single for life meaning you kinda have to losen your restrictions on who you want to date to - well - date pretty much anything if you're a man. You really don't have much of a choice other than to date whatever is willing to date you UNLESS you're planning on being single. I mean I agree that you _should_ avoid assholes but the question isn't what you should or shouldn't but what you can afford. There's a reason men swipe right on every tinder picture. It's not beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:34 AM
1

Depends on what you mean by matter. If you consider 80% of men as below average then the overwhelming majority of men are not attractive as far as you're concerned but since only 20% of women can get 20% of men you don't really have much of a choice to actually start dating the other 80% as well unless you're planning on being single. This doesn't imply that it matters less - it might as well be explainable by them bowing to the pressure of these demographics. If I'd find 100% of women unattract…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:26 AM
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No, but I haven't dated in a while. From my experience during teenage years I can absolutely confirm that being nice will make you popular among girls but it will shift once people reach adolescence. Also, there's a huge difference between being not nice and being a dick. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:15 AM
1

During teenage years you can genuinely do well by just being kind to women and being funny. That works incredibly well as a teenager. My own theory is that women (well, girls in this context) are genuinely attracted to nice guys in their early lifes but it'll flip when they approach adolescence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:10 AM
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Hobbies and stuff are useless for that purpose - the only puprose they serve is to keep you mentally healthy. Women aren't attracted to you due to your hobbies or your volunteer work at the local soup kitchen or animal shelter or whatever. Hobbies aren't what makes you any more special than anybody else. Most people have multiple hobbies. That's not unusual. Having hobbies is the equivalent of saying "you're cute". It's not interesting. Hobbies only work because you might actually meet women thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:05 AM
1

You still can't really change the basics though. Even if you make it an option. Women will check that option and men wouldn't check that option so they could be matched with women because if women check the option and men check the option there won't be any matching going on. If men think that women will check that option then they won't check it because you want to optimize your chances and women will check that option because that's what they inherently want anyway. And again, as was already s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:49 AM
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Because you usually don't want to pair up heterosexual men with other heterosexual men. That's why it's very important to tell the site your sex and what sex you want to be matched up with. How would this work otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:43 AM
1

Depends. This makes the assumption that a near-human robot wouldn't fulfill the need for validation and connection as well. There's no inherent difference between a biological and a mechanic/digital brain in terms of its functioning. Humans have a funky relationship to robots. Studies have already shown that humans can develop empathy for robots. And not creepy humans, just average humans do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:36 AM
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Why would the bar lower? The birth ratios of men/women is on a world average 1.07:1.00. That's 7% more men being born than women being born. In most countries you'll usually have at least 4% more men being born that women. If something effects 4-7% it won't really do anything because those 4-7% are screwed anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:05 AM
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If you can get laid with PUA then you're at least a 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 08:05 PM
2

Mine is. You wanna say something?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 08:02 PM
1

I don't get it. If my boss tells me to do something you can be damn sure I'd do it. It's my boss. That's how this relationship works. Boss tells me what to do, I do it, I get them moneyz for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:18 PM
1

My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 05:17 PM
1

Male. Emotional. Sex is seems more like a nuisance than fun but I never had any but it doesn't sound like a lot of fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 12:10 PM
2

Healthcare isn't free. We have mandatory insurance but it's not free. But we subsidize a lot of family stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 10:57 AM
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If you want to know how much a child costs the average is barely a useful number. Just like the average person in my country seemingly spends 500 bucks on food a month which is essentially just money wasted and you can get by fine with half of that (source: me). The relevant number would the the livable minimum (or whatever that's called in english) not associated with a significant decline in social functioning. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_raising_a_child cites about 170k. In my count…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 09:57 PM
1

Why is creativity a toxic trait? I like creative women who can decorate because I have absolutely zero talent for that kind of stuff (not zero but you know).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 02:46 PM
1

That's a good point. You want to optimize strength-to-weight ratio as a professional athlete of course. Unless in your sport weight is actually an advantage or mandatory (such as sumo ringing). What I was trying to say is that having a normal body weight as a woman is more likely as difficult as having a normal body weight as a man without it being muscle mass and the effort required to look shredded is significantly greater than having a normal body weight. It requires very specific training, l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 01:23 PM
1

I have to say this style of discussion comes across as rude. Who's complaining about not being able to build muscle?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 12:37 PM
1

I guess it's about "truth seeking". The point of arguing is to figure out the truth and causal relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 12:09 PM
1

I don't want to fuck any of them. I don't know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 11:36 AM
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I just thought it's funny if random people would answer "I'm there for you if you need to talk". I didn't mean to confuse you. I didn't even read your post yet. I just scrolled down to the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 11:34 AM
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But yes, tell me about the diet and exercise regime of a bunch of models in a stock photo you’ve never met and expect me to take you seriously. Why would I? I was asking you whether this physique in your opinion is a result of rigorous diet and exercise or whether it's reasonably obtainable by being your average human being who maybe goes jogging or yoga once in a while and eats a normal standard diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 11:31 AM
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Then we probably have a language barrier issue. I'd consider the one on the far right to still be within normal range. https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/hbz-index3-1515689916.jpg <- the left one would be very thin as in below skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 11:27 AM
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You might be interested in the results obtained from the Prisoner's Dilemma. Being bad is great - but being good has much more overall benefit and the most successful strategy is tit for tat. It is true that life don't care too much about you being good or bad. Relationships aren't stable. Relationships aren't stable. Relationships aren't stable. The way we date is stupid. You only ever get a good full picture of somebody else when you've actually moved together. It'd be much smarter to date peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 10:59 AM
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I'm also there for you if you need to talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 10:45 AM
0

Nah, still yellow pill. Red pill is incorrect, blue pill is wrong, black pill is false and purple pill is not correct. HOWEVER, in terms of who's right the most I'd have to say the inconvenient truth is red pillers arguably have a decent point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 09:12 AM
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I tried to give my answer as an analogy. I don't agree that nobody values you being "good" just because it's expected to be "good". People value "good" maybe not observably because we don't say "thank you for being good all the time". We don't tell our parents "thanks for being a good parent" all the time because we expect them to be good parents but that doesn't mean we don't value them being good parents. Which would be another analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 08:42 AM
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but at the same time, she is getting waxed, her hair done, planning her outfit, applying makeup to get ready to see you. I trim my beard (or shave) and shave other regions. I cut my hair, I plan my outfit. Overall it probably does require less time to do that. I don't really know how long it takes to apply make-up. But seeing as many women say it takes a long time to get ready I'd be stupid to not accept that it takes longer. If you really wanted equality, it would be expected that you spend jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 08:30 AM
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I don't know. I'd have to look up my old comments but reddit doesn't really have any decent search function to go through past comments and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 08:03 AM
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No one will care about the good stuff you do because goodness is expected from you. Yeah. Nobody cares about people not committing crimes because it's expected from them to not commit crimes. They might as well commit crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 08:01 AM
1

Starting from anorexic?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 07:57 AM
1

That makes no sense; if people are subconsciously attracted to muscles for evolutionary reasons then surely it must be to actual functional muscles? No. It's one of those things that isn't taught properly in school. Evolution is not about survival of the fittest. (It kinda is but people seem to misinterpret what fit here really means). Evolution is about reproduction. There's natural selection (aka survival). If you're not adapted enough to survive you're more likely to die BEFORE you produce. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 07:55 AM
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Not quite. Endurance and max strength and big muscles are different things. You'd probably hardly see any significant difference in muscle size between somebody who can do 50 consecutive push-ups vs somebody who does hundreds of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 07:32 AM
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Well, yeah - that look is obtainable perfectly fine by doing some manual labor and a standard diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 07:25 AM
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If building muscle is easier than eating properly then why aren't all men ripped af? They'd have to be complete morons then if it's even easier than eating properly. Why aren't most male athletes ripped (ignoring sumo wrestling & co. of course).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 06:59 AM
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Nah. Being skinny means you look like women #2 in this picture: https://www.womenfitness.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/survery-on-womens1-1000x619.jpg Overweight is #5. Chubby would be something between #2 and #5. Thin would be #4 and #6. Normal would be all of those except #5 You think #2 has a strict diet plan, goes to the gym 4 times a week for hours, does cutting and all that stuff? I'm not a gym bro so excuse my poor knowledge about it. This is what we're actually talking about. Compari…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 06:48 AM
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When men say it's "easy" for women to be skinny, they're saying it because it's easy for men to be skinny so they assume it must be for women too. Why would you think that? but it doesn't change the science. Show me the science that shows that women eating an appropriate standard amount of food adhering to the recommended food diversity will get overweight. This means no cookies, no cakes, no candy, no chips, and regular water only. Just standard food. Nothing out of the ordinary. Just regular s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 06:28 AM
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You're a useless bot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 06:00 AM
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Also, 30 of those 100 employees can have a strong ass work ethic and vision for themselves and go start THEIR OWN companies providing some other good/service that people desire. If there's enough demand and funding sure. But you can't just say "oh. let's compete with walmart then". And still. How the hell would this scale? You need employees to do work and career positions are just scarcer by nature. Unless literally everybody has their own company which is ridiculous... not-shit, half-decent li…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 05:58 AM
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isn't a size 0 Nah. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/03/14/20/4A32037F00000578-5501787-image-a-31_1521060711749.jpg And https://i.pinimg.com/originals/41/36/26/4136267eb722eccfef74756f7c9cd5d7.jpg sums it up pretty much. Luckily there's also mybodygallery https://www.mybodygallery.com/photos-46888-body-shape.htm?StartAt=18#.XEFhss1CdPY That's a size 10 and she has an "ideal" figure. https://www.womenfitness.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/survery-on-womens1-1000x619.jpg <- all of those …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 05:21 AM
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Yeh, but the relevant question isn't "If I eat this much who will store more" but how easy it is to eat adequately based on your body type. There are likely differencees that if women and men eat the same amount of stuff the women would probably get "fatter" than men but that's a useless comparison. If I'd eat the same amount as a guy 2 inches taller than me I'd also get "fatter" compared to that because my optimal intake is less.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 05:12 AM
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True, but that wasn't the point of the comment. https://www.womenfitness.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/survery-on-womens1-1000x619.jpg if you need a broader range of different women but it's hard to find pictures. Any of those would be harder to achieve (with exception of #5) according to the myth. The point was about body mass and skinnyness or whatever this is called. Most guys wouldn't even have the facial structure of the guy in the picture and a lot wouldn't even have the hair of the gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 05:01 AM
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"work ethic". How the hell does that work? So I start in a company with 100 employees as an office clerk. Then I could raise to a group supervisor and from them to the boss of the office. Are you trying to tell me that anybody of those 100 employees could make career? How does this even work physically? Even if they're all equally good only three of them would advance in their careers because there's not that many career positions open in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 04:53 AM
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Nah. The reality is that with a regular diet you'll be automatically skinny. There's no need to go on any special diet or exercise plan. If you simply don't overeat you'll have the ideal body as far as that is concerned. The reason other countries have lower obesity rate in women has nothing to do with them doing something special or exercising more. It's just because american diets are insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 04:50 AM
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She's delusional. It wasn't even the most ridiculous thing she said but I'd definitely put her into the highly narcissistic bin.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 10:48 PM
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I had such a discussion with a woman on reddit. She basically said that this is easier to achieve than this. Even if you have a professional gym routine you don't just end up looking that shredded. Even professional athletes rarely look like that and working out is kinda the job of these athletes. This would be a realistic picture of what athletes actually look like. Yes, this little bit off topic because that's way past "moderate". But I still wonder how the hell one can actually believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 10:44 PM
3

How do you avoid a shitty career?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 10:16 PM
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Our?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 10:12 PM
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Some lecture from steven pinkert.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 08:19 PM
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(You're talking to a homeless person. Just as a fyi. ;) )
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 07:54 PM
1

Yeah but who defines what is harmful and what isn't? I can buy a suit or I can have food for a full year. If people wouldn't have to buy suits that money could go to people that need it and it wouldn't take much needed money away from people who don't have it because they have to buy suits for social occasions or jobs. That fulfills my definition of harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 07:53 PM
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What are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 07:37 PM
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Feminism has freed women from a lot of societal restrictions. So why wouldn't the same be possible for men, especially because those same standards don't even exist across the globe? For a number of reasons. Feminism is unlikely going to do that. And movements by men either are filled with mysoginistic idiots or they are filled with reasonable men but regardless it's currently being largely ignored and that's probably going to stay that way for a few years. Crying in public is generally received…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 07:17 PM
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Because we can't get rid of them. We can just replace them with different harmful cultural standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 07:00 PM
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I don't know. To me "boys don't cry" applies to minor stuff not big stuff. I.e. a boy falling and scrape their knees.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 06:42 PM
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But crying over every little thing isn't exactly too helpful either. I think a base level of resilience is necessary to live a good life. What happens to this pent-up frustration when boys inevitably come up short in the manhood-code department? It can lead to depression, conduct disorders, isolation, problematic relationships and even violence. Yeah. Obviously "not fitting in" and to not be accepted creates mental health problems. But what is the ideal goal here? At best you can change the crap…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 06:39 PM
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How would you explain these cultural differences? I don't know. There just are. Would you as a man walk around in a skirt? No, not around here. You might in other cultures. Why do some cultures give two kisses on the cheek, others three and why do men not do kisses on the cheek with other men whereas in other cultures men give a kiss on the mouth. I don't know. I doubt anybody knows. It's just a human thing to have rituals and stuff like that. Why do we even shake hands? Shaking hands is fucking…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 06:31 PM
1

What does this have to do with responsibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 06:21 PM
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Yeah - that would make sense in a world where people don't have weapons like uhm pepper spray and shit. If every woman has pepper spray I'd have to be scared that random women pepper spray me and beat the crap out of me. I'm not scared of that (yet) because most women probably don't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 06:19 PM
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And "toxic" is behaviour that results in somebody getting hurt? Men or women? How does "boys don't cry" hurt people for example? Men don't expect men to harass women - and neither do women. So calling that part of masculinity would be pretty much a bogus claim then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 06:17 PM
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Yeah but that doesn't really help. Is masculine what men consider masculine or is masculine what women consider attractive or both of those?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 06:13 PM
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Yeah the overall message isn't bad but it's the details that one might have addressed more properly. The scene with the guy stopping the other guy from moving would be one of the things I don't really agree with. I'm all for saying men should step in when they see sexual harassment but at that point in the video no sexual harassment has actually happened yet. That scene should've been replaced with a scene of actual sexual harassment where a men steps in. The fight scene with the kids - meh - ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 06:11 PM
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If the data shows men have a mean +4 then men have that. At least if the study was properly designed. But what do you want to do with this data? On average women are better at arithmetic than men. It's just incredibly hard to design studies that aren't influenced by someone's upbringing. You should always take them with a grain of salt anyway. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 06:05 PM
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You'd have to first define the term "masculine"/"masculinity" before we can actually have a discussion on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 06:02 PM
1

I'm not in one but I can see that it has its benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 03:07 PM
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Nah, they all work unless children. Also usually there'd be multiple women involved too which you could have fun with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 02:52 PM
1

Yeh... I still wouldn't tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 11:46 AM
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Something about longterm singles have their own daily routine that are too set in stone and "there's something wrong with them". Not my opinion - just citing reddit comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 11:00 AM
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Then having been single for too long becomes baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 09:43 AM
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Time yes, money no.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 09:32 AM
1

What? Cost per person is less if you live together.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 09:20 AM
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Maybe. It's still better financially. You can save one full income and you'd get half of it after divorce which is probably still more than what you could've saved alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 09:16 AM
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No. Why would it? A colleague of mine married right after school at about 20. I mean why not? You go to school from 6-16 then 16-20 is apprenticeship/job training and if you don't plan on studying you can marry right then. If you're finished with your job training you'll earn a full salary instead of the 500 bucks a month during job training. If you have a full salary you have enough money to rent an appartment, buy a car and whatever you need. You can move out and marry and start having childre…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 08:41 AM
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"You never get over an ex until you get a new partner". You don't just stop having feelings for someone because they break up with you. I wouldn't talk about my exes though so I'm wondering why people do that. My exes are of nobody's business unless they pose a significant danger to the new partner. Luckily I don't have exes that would pose any danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 06:51 AM
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Well, for sexual violence men are way more problematic than women. For sexism/gender discrimination/stereotyping and such women are probably worse than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 06:49 AM
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People get married at 21. No reason to delay marriage until you're 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 06:42 AM
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I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:16 PM
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Yeah, but "boys don't cry" is like used in context when a boy scraps his knee or something minor like that. You wouldn't really want an adult to cry over a minor injury. It's an important life skill. Resilience. It teaches them to take a fall and get up again. If you lie on the floor waiting for the teacher to come by just because you scrapped your knee that's "meh.". It's about emotional growth. I know that girls are less prone to this because I guess for them it's more acceptable to rely on ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:10 PM
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Well... since I'm recently started to get to know a few related subreddits.. ​ The only "straight single men" you see, acknowledge or even know exist are top 20% men. It's well understood that women don't see men they aren't sexually attracted to. ​ This is amazing. This is so cool. It's like the exact same thing that gets thrown around in r/truefemcels. Just with flipped gender. These subs are so cool. But it explains a lot. If women only see 20% of men and men only see 20% of women there are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:53 PM
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That's the crux of the OP - women don't like it when men say "I feel bad because of something you did" Then they might have trouble accepting that they aren't infallible? I mean inevitably you'll make your partner feel bad every once in a while. I guess that depends on how you view emotions. Emotions aren't caused by us - they are caused by the environment/circumstances that trigger them. In that sense we're never really responsible for having emotions - we're just responsible for dealing with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:33 PM
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The sub you linked does not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:10 PM
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"I feel bad because of this" sounds more like describing why someone feels bad. You're responsible for controlling the outcome of your emotions - not for having emotions or for the cause of emotions. Responding with "don't blame xyz for your emotions" sounds like invalidating emotions to me. Invalidating emotions results in mental health problem when done over long periods of time and from early on. I'd want to know why somebody feels bad. Enables me to be a better judge of the situation and off…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:06 PM
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Let me just say one thing: If women and men are equal then the only distinguishing factor would be looks and the reason men date women and vice-versa would be because one has a stick and the other one has a cave and two bumps. Does that sound scary or does that sound the way it should be?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 08:51 PM
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Might be. I'm new here. Don't really know the people on here that well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 08:47 PM
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I had to read the wikipedia article on that. That might actually cross into the realms of what could be illegal then. Also stupendously idiotic. I'm wondering whether his mental health treatment was adequate. PDD-NOS should involve a whole treatment team and a decent treatment plan and probably interaction with other people with DDs but depending on the location that might not be easily possible if he actually had a DD and not something more related to schizotypy which would actually explain why…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 08:45 PM
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How would you go about changing the dynamic to narrow the gender disparity? Teach abstinence! No, just kidding. women should shame virginity or less sexual experience less. men shouldn't see having sex early as a status and use this to mock other men. virginity shouldn't be viewed as something that you give to someone. However, you can't have 2) without 1). The leverage comes from women valuing men with little or absent sexual experience less which in turn causes men to value men with little or …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 07:51 PM
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Yeah but what does that mean? Whom does it hurt and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 07:40 PM
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What does being an idiot have to do with toxic masculinity? If it's too gay for you you can even go to a female urologist (or proctologist depending on who's doing the exam). They might not be that frequent but if you live in a mobile country you can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 06:58 PM
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What do you mean when you say sexual success? What is sexual success? If I meet a woman whom I like to share my life with and have sex on occasion is that sexual failure because it's "just" one woman? Why would I care about what other men think about my sexual success? Most people still live in primarily monogamous relationships with 25% cheating rate (approx.). That'd be pretty stupid if this wouldn't make all involved parties happy. If anything in my opinion it proves that while having sex wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 06:54 PM
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I've never seen or heard a feminist say we should show our emotions. It's also unclear to me what this would encompass? There are different emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 06:48 PM
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I see. I'm not too familiar with reddit terminology.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 06:45 PM
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I'm guessing it's my orange skin, blonde hair and my ridiculously small hands. But it could be my lack of humour too. Or it's my collection of CDs because "Who does that in this age?".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 06:43 PM
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Yeah.. neither do virgins. We're all born virgins and don't mow down people with their vans until we finally loose virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 06:25 PM
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Often perceived as dangerous and accused of crimes/criminal intentions Really? I mean sure... if we go by TV shows then every impotent man is a women hater who's out to murder them but in reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 06:22 PM
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Women today are in the unique position of being expected to put quite early in the dating game. Define expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 06:19 PM
5

I leave my basement fairly frequently. I go climbing two times a week, local sports club two times a week, occasionally volunteer to train the youth of the sports club or supervise them during events. I more or less regularily but not frequently go swimming and ice skating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 06:17 PM
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Prelude> 22-16 6 Prelude> 40/6 I calculated with 40 :D.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 04:17 PM
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You wouldn't really know whether somebody is prone to cheating in relationships... especially when they've never had one. You'd see whether their home is clean the first time you visit it. Unless they only clean it on days you come over but I mean yeah - you won't be 100% sure ever. Ask them about hobbies. If they have hobbies it'd be unlikely that they play 50 hours a week WoW. When you work you come home at about 7pm so that's about 3h of WoW you could possibly play during a weekday 15h per we…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 01:45 PM
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I don't know. I always imagine somebody growing up in an isolated area like a farm in a remote village on the mountains and then at age 30 decides to move to the city to find a spouse. Then I ask myself "What exactly would disqualify somebody like that from being a partner?". They can manage a life, they can manage income, they can pay taxes and deal with government administrative task, they can organize their day, ...., etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 12:39 PM
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I don't really see an advantage in striving for a high N count anyway. I see an advantage in having a reasonable N count though. Theoretically you'd be better off as a guy sleeping and entering relationships with women even if you have no interest in her - which I'd say is pretty immoral to do but you don't really have much of choice if you want to be seen as valuable later on in life because the game is rigged.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:25 AM
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As a tendency sex is more difficult for men than women (by which I mean the act of intercourse). There's very few things you can do wrong as a woman but a ton of things you could be doing wrong as a man. Thus as a tendency women tend to prefer better sex (who wouldn't) and thus tend to prefer men with more sexual experience as this tends to lead to better sex due to more experience on his part. Obviously there's a sweetspot here as in too low wouldn't be an advantage and too high wouldn't be an …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:19 AM
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Relationships and sex are NOT rational. They're emotional. If you want rational relationships you'd have to go the the planet Mr. Spock came from. Having irrational preferences sounds like a bad thing but it's the most human thing ever. We just like to rationalize our irrational behaviours but they're still irrational. I'd say it's because you're looking out for signs that she/he is able to commit to a relationship and both men/women with high N count probably don't send the "I'm ready to commit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:13 AM
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To be fair 80 at 22 is a lot. That's about 7 different sexual partners per year. That's not really a high count anymore - that's an insanely high count. But other than that to me the dominant factor would still be how she's treating me in that relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:05 AM
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The only red flag to me in that context is if somebody is unable to have an "adult level" discussion/communication style and unwilling/unable to organize everyday stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:02 AM
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But what would you even need to teach a somebody about relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 09:54 AM
1

Then the description in the wiki is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 10:00 PM
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The yellow piller wouldn't put women on a pedestal. The yellow piller also doesn't give a fuck about mainstream. But in terms of "anything that isn't red is blue" then you might consider this blue pill yes. Or purple pill. I'm not even sure what the difference between blue pill and red pill is. Sounds pretty much the same to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 06:54 PM
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It's a radically different pill that focuses on mutual appreciation between genders. The core idea is that women and men are supposed to work together and have some form of intimacy together and that you share intimacy with people whom you enjoy sharing intimacy with. It acknowledges that polyamory might be a viable lifestyle but it doesn't mandate or recommend it. It focuses on community living. It respects that everybody is slightly different and that people should work things out face-to-face…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 06:37 PM
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Lots of people are asexual when single, and have a high sex drive when in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 04:44 PM
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While that sounds weird they probably have a sweetspot in mind though? If a man initiates sex on the first date is that too quick? If he doesn't the first 20 dates is that too slow? Then you have the same situation. Too quick is "bad" and not quickly enough is bad too. It'd be relevant to know what the sweetspot is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 03:23 PM
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Date men through friendships I guess. It's tough because you'll have to bring up the courage/will to engage men at places other than the regular places (clubbing/disco/drink fests) but it'll eventually work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 02:40 PM
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M,28,yellow pill. A friend is someone I'd meet regularily for different activities (i.e. not just a climbing buddy).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 02:34 PM
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But if Women put out too quick then they're sluts and should get dumped. Says who? What is too quick?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 02:31 PM
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Are you bothered by high n count men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 12:10 PM
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This is because generally women like to have the friend zone guys around to do shit for them I don't know about you but if I notice that one friend is "using" me more than being a friend guess what - I'll reconsider whether it's worth having this relationship. If a female friend of mine would constantly ask me favours I have no interest in doing because she thinks I'll do it because she's attractive then she'll be losing a friend pretty fast. She probably won't have a hard time finding new frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 09:13 AM
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Just because one feels sexual attraction towards the other doesn't mean that you can't be friends. It might be too annoying for men to deal with the blue balls which is a very painful condition but if you can get sexual release through porn or other women while not necessarily being in a relationship it might work. Then not everybody gets blue balls that quickly. Then again - just because she's objectively hot doesn't mean that guys necessarily feel sexual attraction to her. The sexual attractio…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 09:05 AM
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It appears so. I've not yet seen anybody who made a strong case that there's a significant difference in judging physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 11:17 PM
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Says who? It's a common saying. I just don't notice that in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 10:57 PM
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Might also be explainable by a shift in dating culture regardless of male-to-female ratio? Does the author have controls of such places across history to rule out that this is due to the ratio and not other factors such as a generally different view on relationships and dating? ​
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 08:30 PM
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If being shy is his true self, then why isn't he like that when he hangs out with his friends and family? Because people change their behaviour depending on their surrounding. If you give people more power they tend to become more confident for example. Shyness has to do with familiarity and uncertainty. But I mean this is just a debate about what "true self" actually is. What if shyness wasn't a negative trait? Would his "true self" then be shy or would his "true self" then be not shy? What mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 05:18 PM
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What are those three pictures supposed to demonstrate? What exactly is the point you're trying to make? See how a man considers an 8-9/10 uninteresting? What did you expect? Women are interesting because of their looks? That's not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 04:28 PM
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What's an instagram thot?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 04:18 PM
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Last time I checked most people aren't poor nor have genetically passed down health issues nor have serious mental issues. A lot have some mental health issues yes. Being male and single is linked to mental health decline so depending on your age if you're dealing with long-term singles they are probably at least a little bit depressed but that's usually the kind of depression that will lift very quickly once they have something going in their life so I wouldn't consider that serious mental issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 04:17 PM
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Hard to explain. It's a social skill. You just know. I mean if you just meet for dinner & sex then you probably don't know because then you don't spend that much time together. But if you live together with somebody you'll know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 04:09 PM
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I just think that if you date a man who loves you your chance of that happening are rather small compared to the regular chance of a divorce which is 50% anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 02:48 PM
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What's the difference between liking things, expecting things and feeling entitled to things? They are practically the same thing. If you only like men with goats and you're likely only dating men you like then you're kinda expecting men to have goats. Entitlement is just a strong expectance? ​ Whatever is cold is hot from the perspective of an even colder object. They all describe the same thing - just from a different reference frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 02:15 PM
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It'd be like hating on smokers and then turn around and say "You know what - I like it when men smoke." but still continue to hate smokers. Of course - the real issue is that feminism is a poorly defined term.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 02:09 PM
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Because the gist of many but not all feminist groups is that this assumes that women are the weaker gender (as in he protects her - she wants to be protected by him) and both women and men participating in this should be discouraged from doing that. You know... everything is just endless backlash :). That's how the world works nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 02:04 PM
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In a law free environment with a majority vs a very small minority where the majority needs something from the small minority or wants the small minority to do something I'd say it's not unreasonable to assume that the majority won't really give too much about the rights of said small minority especially when it's free of consequences. This doesn't mean that I advocate this - it's just what I think is a very likely option to happen under those circumstances. Especially when your survival depends…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 01:54 PM
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More like, women are expected to try and look as presentable as possible if they're seeking the attention of men I disagree with that notion. It'd be like me walking around saying men are expected to get dick enlargements. It's not that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 10:23 AM
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Whatever makes her happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 10:11 AM
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Marriage is a legal thing. However, there's no way to go around marriage in some countries as you enter marriage legally after living together for a few years whether you want it or not. That's because people started cheating social wellfare systems by living together but not marry to get twice the amount of money they would when they'd be married. Even in pre-marital states there come a few responsibilities with being in a relationship. If your boyfriend/girlfriend has enough money you can't go…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 10:08 AM
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All men cheat, you might as well get cheated on by a rich man! Kudos on the level of misanthropy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 10:01 AM
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As a woman you'd be noticed regardless of make-up. You just need to be confident enough to pull it off. It'll change a bit once you're past thirties but until then you'd rarely really need make-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 09:10 AM
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... only if you think you are what you could be rather than you are what you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 09:07 AM
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It makes her look older, if that's what she was after.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 09:04 AM
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You're forgetting f.) tie billy up, keep him as a prisoner, force wank him to get semen for insemination. That'd probably be the most likely scenario that's going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 09:01 AM
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Because STDs can cause brain damage if you don't cure them early enough. You'd have to be uneducated and stupid af to not treat your STDs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 08:52 AM
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Fair enough. But for the most part make-up and plastic surgery aren't used to hide medical conditions that get passed on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 08:50 AM
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You might consider treating your STDs first.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 08:14 AM
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The following things are also a misrepresentation of your genetics: Any hair trimming. Be it beard, scalp, arm pits, eyebrows or pubic hair. If you shave any parts of your body that's a misrepresentation of your genes. And so is: Trimming your toe nails and finger nails. But wait there's even more. Using deodorants/anti-transpirants. Misrepresentation of your genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 08:11 AM
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There's a reason why genetic diseases often manifest in ways that would render someone unattractive. What the...? And what would that reason be?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 08:06 AM
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Then why would I even care about that? Is treating a genetic disease misrepresenting someone's true self? For all I care you can walk around with geisha makeup all day long. Not my problem, not my issue, not my business. I don't have to find it attractive and I wouldn't but beyond that why is that any of my concern as long as the make-up isn't an environmental or general health hazard.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 10:20 PM
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Yeah but it said "male opinion" as well so I gave it a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 10:09 PM
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If it's a noteworthy genetic flaw that requires medical attention then surely any decent human being would inform their partner about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 10:01 PM
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When do women feel most comfortable being approached? I don't know. You'd have to direct this question to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 09:54 PM
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I see. So the fear is not being able to tell whether she has a genetic flaw?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 09:52 PM
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plastic surgery in the past to enhance their appearance, would you consider that to be a misrepresentation of themselves? How would plastic surgery be a misrepresentation of themselves if there isn't something internal that dictates what their external appearance should be? You're projecting. I'm going to ignore this for now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 09:02 PM
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What advice can you give to men who want to be pussy slayers without seeming like a PUA. Stop using the term "pussy slayer". Grow up and start having meaningful relationships - sexual or not. That's not the advice you've requested but that's the advice I'd give.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 08:59 PM
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Define "serious conversation".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 08:57 PM
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You're assuming that there's some inner soul that manifests in a certain outward appearance and plastic surgery would be cheating this? I don't think there's such an inner soul. On the other hand I find make-up unattractive if it looks artificial and no I can't objectively describe at what point it looks artificial there's just a certain threshold where my brain jumps to "this doesn't even look like a human face anymore".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 08:56 PM
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