rose_milkteaa Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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0	Status is everything for men Status only matters for men who care about a woman’s status/beauty.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 11:51 PM
1	Do you think it aligns with liberal progressive beliefs to view men as inherently more dangerous or predatory? I’m not left leaning. I’m aware that men and women have a lot of differences. If a woman tells you that one gender is more x,y,z than the other one then she isn’t left leaning. Left leaning women don’t see gender.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 08:55 PM
1	Do you think it aligns with liberal progressive beliefs to view men as inherently more dangerous or predatory? I meant that it’s the women on this subreddit who insist men and women are the same, with no differences. Therefore they wouldn’t single out men for being “dangerous” just like how they don’t describe women as x,y,z either. It’s the left leaning women I’ve talked to in real life who always say that a woman can’t be defined, neither can a man. So it wouldn’t make sense for them to say men are dangerous, when they can’t tell you if that person being dangerous/aggressive is a man or woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 08:35 PM
2	Do you think it aligns with liberal progressive beliefs to view men as inherently more dangerous or predatory? I see it on this subreddit all the time.. It’s not conservative women who insist that men and women both give birth, have the same amount of estrogen/testosterone, or deny the differences between the genders. For example, if you tell a left leaning woman that it’s safer for her to walk on the inside of a sidewalk, whereas the man is supposed to walk on the outside.. she will say “that’s sexist! Women don’t need men to protect them we are just as strong and capable as them. There is no difference…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 08:21 PM
1	Do you think it aligns with liberal progressive beliefs to view men as inherently more dangerous or predatory? That’s what confuses me. Because when I talk to left leaning women- they insist women and men are the exact same. Thats why they shit on stay at home moms or on pregnant women that don’t work- they think men and women are affected by pregnancy in the same exact way. If you bring up statistics to them, they will say everything affects men and women 50/50.. and that gender is not a factor since it’s fluid and we can’t define what a woman or man really is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 08:14 PM
0	Do you think it aligns with liberal progressive beliefs to view men as inherently more dangerous or predatory? I don’t think so. Left leaning women usually treat men and women as if they are the exact same. They don’t view women as inherently dangerous so they wouldn’t view a man in that way either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 08:08 PM
1	CMV: More women should join the 4B movement in the US Nope. They just have to pretend to be a liberal/male feminist. I know guys who have told me that they’ll say things like “women are strong and independent and can pay for their own dates since they are working adults. It’s only the stay at home moms that are too incompetent to get a job” and it’ll get them a placeholder gf that gives him guaranteed sex for no effort. They say these type of women are the easiest to date and keep around- since they don’t require commitment (cause that makes them d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 07:49 PM
9	CMV: More women should join the 4B movement in the US Any man who voted for trump can just pretend to be a left leaning liberal to get laid. Some men already do this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 04:20 AM
6	The 4B Movement isn't going to happen en masse Guys have also told me they like ultra liberal 50/50 women as “starter gfs” because those women don’t put pressure for a real title/commitment (marriage a couple years or dating) or any financial investment. These women usually also shit on spoiled gfs/stay at home moms/wives because they think it’s degrading to be accepting anything from the man they’re involved with (whether it’s a ring, dinner dates or finances) I don’t believe for one second that women will stop dating or sleeping with men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/24 01:38 PM
1	Women Date Out Of Their League By Exploiting a Loophole Hypergamy is common sense. Because men do the same thing. If a man had a choice between a 47 year old, overweight single mom vs a fit, attractive 25 year old then who would he choose? It’s baffling how men just assume women would choose the male equivalent of an undesirable woman over the male equivalent of a desirable woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 10:25 PM
1	Women Date Out Of Their League By Exploiting a Loophole Hoemath and those men do a lot of sugar coating. The reason why the average man doesn’t have as many options as a tall, handsome, rich, desirable men is simply because lacking all of those qualities doesn’t make him better than the men who have those qualities. Women don’t need to other women to tell them “the reason why VS Models have more options than unattractive, 45 year old, overweight women is because younger, fit, attractive women are more desirable” The average man aligns himself with me…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 08:19 PM
4	Age gap relationships are often more equal than close age relations It’s not about men that have sex. It’s about men that can have sex with a high number of celebrity/supermodel/IG model/miss universe women. Men think being 30 puts them in the top percentile, which will let them access women like the VS models, Salma Hayek, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 07:36 PM
1	Women Date Out Of Their League By Exploiting a Loophole So then what would your issue be with women that sleep with Tyga? You proved my point. The less desirable women that slut around with average men for a coffee/burger aren’t called “sluts” even if they have a 3 digit body count. Yet you tried to paint what your friend did as a bad thing (her sharing Tyga)	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 07:33 PM
1	Women Date Out Of Their League By Exploiting a Loophole It depends. The women that have standards won’t just sleep with anyone. But those are the main women you guys call sluts. Your title only applies to a small % of women. Most women are NOT sleeping with desirable men.. they sleep with men that would be considered “incels”. But women don’t call those women sluts. Those women also call stay at home moms/spoiled girlfriends “sluts” because they are benefitting from a man. If those women decided to sleep with unemployed men, you guys would just call …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 07:17 PM
1	Women Date Out Of Their League By Exploiting a Loophole Exactly. So what’s your point? Are you trying to argue that it’s better to sleep with/date a man that’s way less desirable than Tyga? Cause the female equivalent of this would be to claim that an unattractive/undesirable woman is better than an attractive/desirable woman. Men want the same thing, they just can’t pull it off. They can’t sleep with a vs model for one night, and they also can’t secure her for a marriage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 06:56 PM
1	Women Date Out Of Their League By Exploiting a Loophole Women would be sluts too if male sexuality was the hot commodity that men make it out to be. A Vs model would invite your male friend for a 8-some too if his company/sexual access was as enticing as your female friend’s. How do men not get this? Men always claim that a man’s companionship/access to his body is more valuable than a woman’s. If it’s so valuable why doesn’t he hold out for a Vs model or the female equivalent of Tyga? It’s not about women exploiting a loophole. It’s about men coming…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 06:46 PM
-1	Society encourages Fukbois, especially women Yes, those men still marry average and chubby women because they have to settle. Like I said, there aren’t enough celebrities and supermodels to go around. 90% of men would have to stay single. That doesn’t mean they get their “pick” lol… their pick isn’t gonna be a land whale. They are not able to meet their “pick”, because their pick would choose another fellow celebrity or millionaire man over him. This reality doesn’t even set in for men until they spend years being ignored by those women. I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 06:24 PM
1	Women Date Out Of Their League By Exploiting a Loophole Well that’s because those men don’t qualify for those women. If a woman has options, why would she choose him over another man? Why would she choose to hang out with him vs going off with Tyga? What makes him better than Tyga? Cause he has less options/lower body count? I find it funny how you talk about women sleeping with men out of their league as if it’s a bad thing, when men are wanting the same except they are unable to pull it off.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 06:15 PM
1	Women Date Out Of Their League By Exploiting a Loophole If women decided to share unattractive, unemployed, carless men.. you guys would praise them. There are plenty of women that would sleep with a man if he offered her a burger. If men had the chance to share a vs model, they would take it. But the VS model doesn’t want to sleep with 8 average men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 06:05 PM
–	Women Date Out Of Their League By Exploiting a Loophole So what? The average man also wants an 8-some. The only reason why you guys never bring that up is because he fails at getting one, despite putting in more effort than Tyga. And you guys never shame the women that have 3somes with unemployed, carless men. It’s always just the women who have somewhat of a standard. Most women are hooking up with men that don’t have 1% of the looks, career, etc that Tyga has. You guys just don’t consider that slutty since she is doing it in a 2002 Honda civic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 05:58 PM
–	Women Date Out Of Their League By Exploiting a Loophole Yeah because it’s not a loop hole. Men can have as many options as women if their standards and expectations were realistic. Not sure why you’re calling those men “slutty” when in reality they just have realistic standards and aren’t gonna pass on a woman simply because she’s bigger than a size 2.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 05:51 PM
0	Society encourages Fukbois, especially women Most people are aware that they would never be billionaires. But men are told from childhood that they will be able to land a model as long as he is “confident”. I disagree, men will call any woman over a size 2 a “land whale”. This means, by a man’s own definition.. that he will most likely settle to be married to a land whale. How can you say that fuck boys have their pick of women when they have a 90% chance of being married to a woman that they would see as a land whale? Gal Gadot is a stret…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 05:48 PM
–	Women Date Out Of Their League By Exploiting a Loophole So you admit that men are the picky ones/have unrealistic standards? Women get more matches/dates/messages because they don’t discriminate the way that men do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 05:41 PM
–	Women Date Out Of Their League By Exploiting a Loophole They can if they find hundreds of women that are willing to. If timothee chalamet or Robert Downey jr made a tinder, I am sure they would get hundreds of matches that will want to meet up that day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 05:36 PM
9	Age gap relationships are often more equal than close age relations Men think they automatically become rich, 6’5 handsome chads when they turn 30. They will say women only want the top % of man, but somehow any man can be in the top % as long as he is 30 or older.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 05:32 PM
1	Society encourages Fukbois, especially women But they don’t pull the women they feel entitled to (supermodels/celebrity women) so yes they would be settling when they marry. But to be fair, non fuckbois are also told that they can marry a VS model as long as he’s “confident” and “nice”. “Their pick of women” doesn’t mean much when a lot of women nowadays have no standards and can be bagged by any man (whether he’s attractive/employed or unattractive/unemployed). The kind of woman he would be able to marry is the kind of woman that any aver…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 05:27 PM
8	Age gap relationships are often more equal than close age relations A lot of them don’t. I sugar date older men and they always talk about how younger men are lazy, stingy, broke, entitled, and feminine.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 04:00 PM
2	Age gap relationships are often more equal than close age relations That usually only applies to women who think their degrees/job experience matters the most in relationships. There are women in their 20s like this as well, where they hate on other women for being able to date “up” financially but she doesn’t have the job or degree that she has. And don’t men on here always talk about looksmatching? Most men can’t be looksmatched with a younger woman (that looks better than all of the women his age). Thats why sugar dating exists. Also a lot of older men can ge…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 03:51 PM
1	Alot of guys here will put no effort into being appealing to women. Um no. There actually are women who would do it for free. Yes, some women want provision or nice things. But most women aren’t requiring that. Also, how would most women thrive to be sugar babies when most women choose 50/50 relationships, or don’t even get a dime from the men they hook up with? And surprisingly a lot of taken men also have “red pill” opinions, it’s not just neckbeards. I’ve heard taken men admit that their gf is “cheap and easy to access” because she looks older, isn’t skinny/f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 02:48 PM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Those women aren’t the same ones expecting traditionalism. And they’re probably masculine because they’re expected to go half on bills. Are we are referring to the masculine, liberal feminist overweight chicks who brag about how they’re boss babes who would never stoop low enough to be a stay at home mom/spoiled gf? Cause they’re the main ones who brag about going 50/50, or being a breadwinner. They literally shit on stay at home moms so idk why you’re saying they expect traditionalism when they…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 04:45 AM
1	Society encourages Fukbois, especially women This is not true. Those men still have to settle when they marry, and most marriages end in divorce. So this means some “fuckbois” still decide to propose to women that end up divorcing him years later. Or they cannot even meet or sleep with the type of women they think they are entitled to (supermodels/celebrities). There are not enough celebrity/supermodel women to go around where any fuck boy can just have his pick for marriage. Being a “fuck boy” isn’t enough for a man to land Kylie Jenner o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/24 11:08 PM
-1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Seriously. And western men still expect the same level of submission, except you get no provision or spoiling in return.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/24 08:52 PM
1	Men dont struggle to get relationships Well actually it is hard for men to get into relationships with the type of women that they want. Think of it this way, they may desire and try to pursue supermodels or IG models… but those girls don’t even follow him back. There’s no way for them to meet, go on a date or have casual sex. How is he gonna end up in a relationship with someone that he can’t even meet?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/24 08:51 PM
7	Women can't have it all.. Which is why most men will never have it all either. They think they will get a super hot, loyal 21-25 year old wife. And they think they will have enough options to be able to replace her as she turns 26. Yet, when you ask about their moms.. she’s somehow a “good woman” that deserves to keep their dad/her husband despite her being 30 years past her prime (26th birthday) You never see men tell other men “you won’t be able to have it all” or “it’s not realistic for you to marry a 21 year old supe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/24 08:47 PM
1	Why are men unwilling to date single moms I said traditional women or women that want provision are a small %. Single moms aren’t included in that %. And most women in America do not get a cent from their partners. If your mom’s bfs bought her a meal or spent money on a toy for you then she is one of the rare ones.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/24 12:16 AM
1	Alot of guys here will put no effort into being appealing to women. Yes there is. There are women who will sleep with anyone that has a pulse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/24 11:55 AM
1	Gold Diggers Aren’t Real Most of those women don’t care about looks either. Their standards are low, in general. It’s pretty funny how the guys on here ignore their existence (you), and only focus on the small % of women that do have standards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 07:27 PM
0	Alot of guys here will put no effort into being appealing to women. Women like providers. Or be a sugar daddy. The funny thing is there are plenty of women willing to give it up for free. Not sure why the OP called her uncles second wife “loose” when most women will do it for way way way less. I always wonder why men ignore the majority of women that are willing to sleep around with anyone and for free.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 07:24 PM
1	Gold Diggers Aren’t Real Then how are they ending up together?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 07:19 PM
1	Gold Diggers Aren’t Real It’s not extreme anymore in 2024. Is it extreme if you bring this up amongst hypergamous/traditional women? Yes. But they aren’t the majority anymore. Those women like “losers” cause they get to fix them up, and then brag to other women about how they are capable and strong enough to provide for a man, instead of “relying” on one to provide for her. “Prefer” is a stretch when they’re purposely seeking out NEETs and shaming other women for staying at home after giving birth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 07:15 PM
1	Gold Diggers Aren’t Real It USED to be a tiny group. In 2024, they are becoming the majority. Look at their actions and not their words. Why would so many women be choosing NEETS as boyfriends/baby daddies/husbands if they weren’t trying to be the bread winner?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 06:58 PM
1	Gold Diggers Aren’t Real Those women intentionally choose neets though because they prefer to be the provider. Both parties understand the arrangement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 06:51 PM
1	Gold Diggers Aren’t Real Men can definitely be gold diggers. Do you have any idea how many women are willingly choosing to be providers now? Comments like this always prove to me that men only focus on a small %. Whats funny is that women will call bread winner women “pick mes”, and they’re right.. since they’re basically willing to pay for a relationship and they still get overlooked by the majority of men	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 06:49 PM
1	Gold Diggers Aren’t Real But the majority of women don’t gain a cent from dating. They basically do what escorts do but for free (go look on tinder and hinge). And a lot of them are also proud placeholders. Chads are not homeless, carless or jobless. The women you are referring to are a small % of women that have standards and expect provision. A lot of women pride themselves on being the breadwinner these days. The other women “gold diggers” might sleep with men in exchange for money/lifestyle but the majority of women…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 06:45 PM
1	Gold Diggers Aren’t Real Most women are average, that’s why I said the majority of women are sleeping around for free or dating/marrying for no benefit. Those women won’t ever get a cent and I’m talking about 80-90% of them. Men like you only focus on the small % of pretty ones or the ones who have standards. The rest are definitely bragging about dating homeless/jobless men, they think it makes them an independent boss babe and that spoiled women are dependent or inferior. So what you said about most women wanting a li…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 06:43 PM
1	Gold Diggers Aren’t Real There are actually plenty of women that don’t want any benefit in relationships. And yes some of them choose to be with car less/unemployed men. They literally shit on stay at home moms and spoiled girlfriends. How can they be a gold digger when they purposely look for the men who will give them the least? (No house/car/job).	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 05:47 PM
1	Gold Diggers Aren’t Real No, not all women care about employment status, lifestyle, or looks. It’s the small % of women that men focus on (because it’s usually the attractive, well kept ones that are). The average woman in 2024 dates who she cans, and loves going 50/50 or even being the breadwinner. I have seen these type of women attack other women for wanting a man taller than 5’7 or a man who’s employed. You are simply only focusing on the ones who have standards. I know plenty of women who have financial standards, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 05:43 PM
0	Gold Diggers Aren’t Real There’s a lot of women who would do it for free nowadays. I think there’s hypergamous women and then there’s non hypergamous women. Some women genuinely don’t care about a man’s employment status, or if he benefits her. There are women nowadays that pride themselves now in being breadwinners, or for hooking up with stranger men on tinder for free. A lot of sugar daddies/regulars at the strip clubs are taken men that are in 50/50 relationships. Their gf/wife most of the time is fine with him spen…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 05:38 PM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD I’m not sure cause women disagree on the whole “beta buxxing” thing. Some women think it’s a good thing when a man provides for his family/has a job, so she will think you are his last choice if he doesn’t do it for you. Other women think it’s a bad thing when a man provides or has a job, so then they will think you’re his last choice if you are a spoiled/stay at home wife/mom. Men generally agree on what’s an “alpha” man and what’s a “beta” man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 03:40 PM
1	Why are men unwilling to date single moms No, she pays for her own kids just like how she’s expected to pay for her own car payment and own clothes. I know two types of women. Women that are taken cared of and spoiled and women that don’t get a cent/have to pay for their own kids (even if they are married and the biological dad is around). Majority of the women are the latter. You realize some wives pay for own hospital stay when they give birth even though she has a husband right? They do that because it’s technically only her giving b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 03:33 PM
2	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD A lot of women will deny it but I have heard things like “did you see the cheap engagement ring he got her? She must be his last choice” and “he let her stay home for a couple years after giving birth because she is not smart enough to make her own money”	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 02:59 AM
3	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Yes. Women who have provider boyfriends usually judge women that have to go 50/50. 50/50 women also judge stay at home moms/wives or women that get any type of material or experience gain (he takes her on vacation) from her partner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 02:54 AM
1	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. Yes, just like how most men are messaging only the top 20% of women. Thats why most men don’t get a reply back. Men choose to approach a small % of women, hoping they will get a reply. The women who get approached choose a small % of men to reply to. Basically this means men are just mad that they’re not the ones who get approached first, because now they’re not in the position where they can pick and choose who to reply to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/24 12:02 AM
1	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. The men who are complaining about how hard the dating scene is are the ones that are only willing to date supermodels, that’s why they’re not taken and are complaining about women ignoring them. The realistic ones going for actual average women can get a gf easily, because those women don’t have many options either. These men are dating the type of women that 90% of men would pass on. Women have a larger pool to choose from because they are actually willing to consider them. Men have a smaller p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 11:57 PM
1	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. Yeah those men are with those women because they have realistic standards, that’s why they’re taken and not having a hard time. Their gfs are average, just like what I described.. not the type of woman that you would glance at twice. Most don’t have any attractive features, in my city they would be the type of woman that can’t get hired at a golf course, day club, night club, bar or fine dining, conventions etc because you are required to be attractive, well groomed and in shape. The majority of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 11:52 PM
-1	Why are men unwilling to date single moms In 2024, in America. Obviously there are women that are more traditional and expect provision, but that’s not the majority. This only confirms to me that men pursue a small % of women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 11:06 PM
-4	Why are men unwilling to date single moms How is this expected when most women don’t even get a dime out of their boyfriends or husbands? Please be realistic lol those kids won’t be getting a cent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 10:26 PM
-1	Why are men unwilling to date single moms Most women are 50/50 or keep things separate. This includes married women. You don’t have to pay for her kids, you don’t even have to pay for her drinks/food on dinner dates. This is 2024, most women aren’t getting a dime from their boyfriend or husband. Most have to reimburse their fiance for the engagement ring. Nobody is expecting you to pay for a single mom’s kids.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 09:29 PM
-2	Why are men unwilling to date single moms Not really, most women nowadays are 50/50. What exactly are you paying for if everything is split 50/50 or kept separate?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 09:28 PM
-3	Why are men unwilling to date single moms Most women are 50/50. Where do you get the idea that you would have to pay for their kids? You don’t even have to pay for her meal or drinks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 08:40 PM
1	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. I said someone that has less options, doesn’t matter what she thinks. If you’re the only man who will message her after a couple months of no messages, then she would most likely reply since she knows this is a rare occurrence	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 07:24 PM
0	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. If men decided to be on the receiving end, they would understand how “desirable” they are to the opposite gender. Then maybe you guys would understand why women choose the way they do. If you got messaged by a fit, cute chick and an overweight, unattractive chick then you are picking the first one. The only men who pick the second are the ones who can’t get approached by a better option. This also applies to women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 07:04 PM
1	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. This is what I’m talking about. I don’t think you understand what average is. If you live in the states, 40% of the female population here is overweight. Most women are not gonna be in their 20s. The women that are in shape, child free, and young know they have leverage since the majority of men prefer them over the average, overweight woman that might be a single mom. And a girl doesn’t have to be an IG model to be seen as attractive by over 50% of men in real life. The problem is you guys are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 06:56 PM
1	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. 5’9 men can go for women that have less options	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 06:53 PM
1	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. Then can you explain how a “slump buster” can be approached by Chad for a hook up, but the average and below average men don’t even glance at her twice or match on OLD? I am talking about actual average, plain women that the majority of men would pass on (for messaging, so there’s no way sex can happen if men won’t even message these types), not the “decent looking” women that men would willingly swipe on. Average women aren’t supposed to be decent looking, they’re neutral and just exist. This m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 06:49 PM
1	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. Men will call anyone over 25 old, and any woman over size 2 “fat”. A 27 year old, size 4 woman that could be seen as attractive is not average, by objective standards. Not when 40% of the American female population is actually overweight.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 06:48 PM
1	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. Those men are taken though so they aren’t the ones complaining about womens “high” standards. It’s just projection because of the beauty standards that men have set. This is why a lot of men can’t find dates, they have a smaller pool to choose from. Women will always have a bigger pool since we aren’t the ones expecting celebrities and Victoria Secret models	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 06:46 PM
1	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. No, an average person would be seen as neutral.. they wouldn’t be found “attractive” because they are supposed to be plain. They are not ugly, but they are also not someone that people would look at and think “she’s decent looking I would ask her out”. An actual unattractive person would be ugly and obese, an average person is neither of those things but she is also not in shape or attractive either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 06:43 PM
0	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. If it wasn’t enforced, then the current beauty standard wouldn’t be what I described. The men who enforce it, can’t use their leverage to land a supermodel or even meet one, which is why he has to “settle”, so now they expect women to do the same. I’m sure more women would be okay with settling if these 6 feet men were also as unattainable and rare as celebrity women/supermodels… It’s more likely that a woman can meet a 6 feet man in real life or be approached by one. But how likely is it for a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 08:28 AM
0	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. Look at the beauty standards that men have set, you can see by observing what’s considered the “conventional” beauty standard. (victorias secret, Hollywood actresses, miss universe pageant) The women who have money (celebrities and models) are able to afford the procedures or high quality services to meet those standards, that AVERAGE men have created.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 08:00 AM
1	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. Is she average and plain to you? Or to 99% of men? Because Chad would have to be included in that 99%. Actual average women are plain and don’t get glanced at twice. If she can draw attention to herself, or is appealing enough for men to consider approaching her then she is not “average” by objective standards. An average woman is supposed to be considered plain and not desirable (meaning he will pass and not even message her) by the MAJORITY of men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 07:58 AM
2	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. Average women are supposed to be plain. They’re not even the ones who get “pumped and dumped” by Chad. He has better options who are willing to hook up with him easily. An average woman is supposed to be a woman that 99% of men would not glance at twice. She’s supposed to be plain and neutral, not somebody that a man would find attractive enough to approach or look at. There’s no way that a chad with multiple options would choose a woman that is passed on by average and below average men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 07:56 AM
1	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. It’s not a “fantasy” when they feel entitled to it in their real, personal relationships. I have never seen a celebrity woman or supermodel woman settle down with an average joe. Yet you guys never tell these men they’re being unrealistic. They are told that they are “confident” and have “self worth” and that confidence is all it takes to lock down his dream eye candy “fantasy” If women applied the same logic, it would be a woman thinking she has a chance of marrying Brad Pitt even though she ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 12:58 AM
1	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. The average Jane in the US is not in shape, an overweight BMI, not stylish, doesn’t have good skin, teeth or hair, is unkept and plain looking. You are the one confusing “average women” with women that majority (over 50%) of men find cute, well groomed and in shape.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 12:54 AM
0	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. You realize that the average Jane does not have enough options to be passing up average men right? For them to be an average Jane by objective standards it would mean the majority of men do not find her attractive or desirable enough to interact with, just neutral.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 12:47 AM
0	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. Well do the majority of other men look at her and think “she’s plain and average. Not desirable enough for me to message”? Because if not, then yes those women will be swamped with options which is why I said average men should be going for women that have the same amount of options as them. And men can always wait for women to message them first or ask them out first. Wouldn’t that show him if his standards were realistic? If he’s as desirable as he thinks he is then he would also get a lot of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 12:45 AM
1	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. Do you know what average and plain looks are, in objective standards?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 12:39 AM
-1	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. The average woman does not come into contact with Chads. An objective “average” woman is seen as average and plain by 99% of the male population. This means it’s the type of woman that doesn’t get a second glance. You (one man) seeing a woman as average, does not mean she is actually average by objective standards if OTHER men find her appealing, attractive or alluring. You would have to go for someone where the majority of men would agree that they would pass on her. Those women aren’t turning …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 12:30 AM
1	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. The 666 standard isn’t higher than the beauty standard (look at Hollywood/Victoria secret/miss universe) that men have set universally. It’s hypocritical to ask women to “lower” their standards when men created and continue to uphold the Hollywood/supermodel standard. How many average men have a shot at marrying Megan Fox, Kylie Jenner, Adrianna Lima, or Ms Venezuela? It’s close to 0% and most men can’t even meet/sleep with one of them but you guys still maintain that standard.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 12:27 AM
0	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. The crazy thing is some single women are getting more provision & better sex than women that are in relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 12:23 AM
2	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. When I say supermodels I also meant IG models/miss universe girls/adult actresses and etc. Those women are also “better” than him yet that’s what he wants to pursue. Yet men only criticize women for wanting to date “up”	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 12:19 AM
1	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. So basically women are willing to be single instead of lowering their standards? Or they rather stay virgins than to be with someone they’re not attracted to? Why do most men not have thousands of matches and options if they swipe on everyone? If we know that women date up, is he better than all of those women? Cause if he was, they all would have matched with him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 12:18 AM
1	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. Do the women who reject them also have little matches? Are they also virgins/never been on dates? You basically admitted that men swipe on women that have a better option than to meet up with him for whatever reason it is. If he only swiped on women that are the same level as him, those women wouldn’t be able to pass him up unless they are okay with being sexless/dateless/get no matches for a long period of time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 10:36 PM
1	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. Then why don’t most men have thousands of matches?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 10:33 PM
-1	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. If you are gonna pursue women that OTHER men find attractive, then she is not objectively average. You finding someone average, does not mean she has 0 options. 99% of men would have to find her plain and average to the point where they would pass on her completely. If a woman has options (even if it’s 2) she will be comparing them. This means if she has a choice between a man who’s better than her and a man who’s not better than her, she will most likely choose the first one. It’s the same way …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 09:21 PM
1	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. Men already do want women that are better than them… that’s why those men can’t get matches on dating apps, a lot of casual hook ups, or a gf.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 09:09 PM
-2	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. Men don’t understand what “average” is. It means she’s not cute or pretty, but also not ugly. She’s not in shape, but also not obese. Also, she would most likely have no options and would have low standards. This means that any man would be able to get a gf very quickly if he was actually going for average women. (It has to be a woman that other men find “average” and plain, it can’t be a woman that another man can find cute or in shape)	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 09:06 PM
5	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. It’s not any different from men’s Hollywood/Victoria secret/miss universe beauty standards. I can also ask you the same thing, how many average men would be able to marry a super model or miss universe winner? And be able to keep her without her filing for divorce down the road? It’s close to 0%, yet you guys created that universal beauty standard and uphold it. Most men can’t even sleep with a VS model, or even meet one yet you guys still uphold that standard. At least these girls are actually …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 09:04 PM
2	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. Their standards are not really “high” if you compare it to the beauty standards that men have set universally. Look at Hollywood/Victorias secret/miss universe. Men created that standard and aren’t planning on changing that. How is that different from what women are doing?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 09:01 PM
1	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. No, if fridge/overweight women are dating.. they are just dating any man who is better than them. This means they are willing to date men that have average bodies/heights. Most men seek out women that are in shape, or slim thick/skinny with big boobs/curvy but small waist. Those women are also looking for a man who’s “better” which means he would be tall, handsome and rich. Wanting a man who’s slightly above you is not inflated. If anything, it means men don’t know where they stand when they are…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 08:58 PM
3	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. I don’t care about the things that women say when they’re ranting and frustrated or in their feelings lol Cause when it comes down to it, what do their actions tell you? If they 100% don’t want to be used for sex, they would be celibate or just settle for an unattractive man to be in a monogamous relationship with. They know they’re taking a “gamble” but they’re willing to take that chance. Do you see hookup culture coming to an abrupt stop?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 08:48 PM
0	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. So? Those aren’t the women that men are trying to date in the first place. So this post wouldn’t be about them cause it’s about women that are actually dating and having standards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 08:46 PM
0	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. I didn’t say ideal. I said standards. If average men can want supermodels (she is better than him) that don’t even know him, then why can’t women want someone slightly better than them?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 08:36 PM
2	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. The men in this forum understand this. They just assume that all women are taking the bus or walking. So with their logic, a woman should be willing to take any car since it’s 100x better than walking everywhere.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 08:30 PM
4	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. If women preferred monogamous relationships with men they find unattractive then unattractive men would be more sought after and have more options than the men that you guys call “chads” Handsome, tall, successful men wouldn’t have any options for casual dating/sex if this was the case.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 08:27 PM
5	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. Yes, this means that one night stands with a certain caliber of men is still better for them than a monogamous relationship with a man she isn’t attracted to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 08:20 PM
-8	Women do not have high standards. They just look for someone who is better than themselves and a lot of women are doing better nowadays than men. That only leaves a small amount of men for them to choose from. Compared to mens’ standards (the Hollywood/Victorias Secret/Miss Universe beauty standard that you guys have created), most womens standards are pretty realistic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 08:16 PM
1	Why do men pursue women with traits or lifestyles they don’t approve of once they are in a relationship? Are we talking about 50/50 women? Lol. I know way more insecure 50/50 women than spoiled women. Mostly because 50/50 women can’t even get a dime out of their “man”, lol they know deep down that he doesn’t like her. Which is why they don’t submit. The first woman you’re talking about does submit to her husband. 50/50 women literally shit on stay at home moms/wives, anniversary gifts, spoiled women etc because their own relationship is 50/50.. she knows she has to buy her own gifts and etc. Of cou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 12:01 AM
3	Why do men pursue women with traits or lifestyles they don’t approve of once they are in a relationship? No they’re not. The women that are triggered are the ones who go 50/50. Of course they don’t want to submit or do anything “traditional”, they’re already going 50/50.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 09:29 PM
4	Why do men pursue women with traits or lifestyles they don’t approve of once they are in a relationship? Are they dating? Cause then I would ask why he chose to be with an overweight, unattractive woman. And in this case, she’s probably okay with 50/50, he doesn’t have to simp but she also won’t submit.. that’s fair isn’t it? But the answer is probably because the women with more options expect him to provide.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 09:06 PM
6	Why do men pursue women with traits or lifestyles they don’t approve of once they are in a relationship? Why would a woman have to be submissive to a man who’s not a provider?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 08:36 PM
1	Why do men pursue women with traits or lifestyles they don’t approve of once they are in a relationship? I’m not talking about my own specific experience. I am talking about the majority of women. Yes, the men who purposely pursue the small % of women that DO have standards will have a harder time. However, you are dismissing 90% of the female population that will suffer through anything for a title	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 08:35 PM
1	Does the average guy have low standards? Men prefer fit women over fat women.. just like how women prefer taller men over short men. Men settle for fat women when they have 0 options, the same way a woman with 0 options has to settle for a 5’6 man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 08:11 PM
1	Does the average guy have low standards? I’m not. I said that fat women should be allowed to be confident if short men are allowed to be. Why are you mad that short men are the same as fat women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 07:58 PM
0	Why do men pursue women with traits or lifestyles they don’t approve of once they are in a relationship? Plenty of women do not move on, you are talking about the small % of who have standards. The average woman is basically paying for her engagement ring, that’s how bad she wants to be married. Men admit that they go 50/50 with unattractive women they settle for all the time, yet these women never connect the dots on why their boyfriend/ husband refuses to spend a dime on them. That being said, dating it easier for men since women have lower standards. (Not all, but most)	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 07:37 PM
6	Why do men pursue women with traits or lifestyles they don’t approve of once they are in a relationship? Yeah but that’s because they don’t like them that much. I know men who go 50/50 with their partner, but they will spoil other women. Or admit they don’t want to provide for their gf/wife cause he had to settle for her since she is not his ideal physical type. This won’t matter to most women though since they rather have the title/ring.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 07:34 PM
1	Does the average guy have low standards? I can ask men the same about overweight women	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 07:33 PM
0	Men’s sexuality is constantly both demonized and exalted, creating a super toxic situation Those women are usually the “overweight landwhales” that you guys talk about. Why would he be her best option if he’s the type of man that most women would not find attractive? Is it financial reasons or bc she will wither away if she stays single and needs him to survive? I know women who don’t even like sleeping with their boyfriends. They chose him cause he’s a provider. Is that genuine lust?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 07:04 PM
0	Does the average guy have low standards? Okay, but then why is he allowed to be confident but women can’t even though they can lose weight? Why do you guys keep saying that short men can pull supermodels? Can you show me one short man who’s also broke that is married to a supermodel?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 06:59 PM
-3	Why do men pursue women with traits or lifestyles they don’t approve of once they are in a relationship? Yes but my point was a man doesn’t have to “fake” anything to get into a relationship cause the average woman is desperate for a title/ring.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 06:57 PM
1	Men’s sexuality is constantly both demonized and exalted, creating a super toxic situation Women also lie to men to get certain things that they want.. they’re just not lying for sex. Okay but men also split the bills with some women while funding another one’s life.. it’s the same thing lol.. men who date around also keep running into women that will be gone the second he wont pay. Or he will keep running into overweight landwhales who don’t mind splitting. Do you think all men can be genuinely lusted after? No. It’s the same way all women can’t be stay at home wives/girlfriends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 06:55 PM
1	Does the average guy have low standards? I’m not saying they’re the same. My point is they are both seen as “undesirable” (especially when compared to in shape women and tall men) by the other gender. Okay, so if a woman can lose weight or get a bbl transfer, why can’t she have confidence… short men can’t gain inches yet they have even more confidence than their taller peers?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 06:53 PM
2	Why do men pursue women with traits or lifestyles they don’t approve of once they are in a relationship? Women are just as desperate. It’s obvious when a man doesn’t like a woman. He won’t spoil or provide for her. Women will lie to themselves that men prefer being stingy and nonchalant with the woman they like and will continue to date them anyways.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 06:39 PM
19	Why do men pursue women with traits or lifestyles they don’t approve of once they are in a relationship? They have the option to pursue women who dress modestly and don’t post on social media. I wonder why they don’t do that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 06:19 PM
4	Men’s sexuality is constantly both demonized and exalted, creating a super toxic situation Exactly. AF = the girls that men will provide for, and take on nice dates/trips/gifts. These are the women who also have the option to stay home after having kids. BB = the women who don’t get a dime, get asked out on 50/50 dates or the ones who are asked to work and contribute to the household bills after having kids. Men do the same thing so why be upset when women do it? Some men are “mid” so they have to be “bb” How many men genuinely lust for “overweight landwhales”? And how many women woul…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 06:13 PM
3	Men’s sexuality is constantly both demonized and exalted, creating a super toxic situation That’s because it’s not reciprocated and she’s offended. Why is he not offended if he isn’t into it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 06:11 PM
4	Men’s sexuality is constantly both demonized and exalted, creating a super toxic situation Men do the whole AF/BB thing too. Look at how they treat attractive women they’re interested in vs “overweight landwhales” Thats why women treat those two men differently.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 05:30 PM
7	Men’s sexuality is constantly both demonized and exalted, creating a super toxic situation That’s probably because it’s not reciprocated when the man expresses sexual interest. Women react positively to sexual interest as long as she is also into you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 05:29 PM
0	Does the average guy have low standards? But you guys always say that the male equivalent of that can bag a supermodel for something long term (and he doesn’t need money to do it)	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 05:26 PM
0	Does the average guy have low standards? What do women find more attractive, short or tall? What do men find more attractive, in shape or overweight? If short men can be confident then why can’t the women you mentioned also be confident? Sometimes, the women you mention still find a short term and long term partner before “average” man does. If “confidence” is all a man needs to land a supermodel that doesn’t even know him then why wouldn’t it be the same for women? A lot of men don’t even get matches or follow backs on social media, y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 05:25 PM
4	If women were truly as horny as men, it wouldn’t only be for some small subset of men. They would fuck men who were on their level or below like men do, and most men wouldn’t struggle to get laid They also call her fat.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/24 05:07 AM
1	Princess treatment is just patriarchy in disguise How is that happening when the majority of women are putting out for less than a hamburger? Women in other countries, or back in 2011 actually expected to be courted for the first date. Women go 50/50 nowadays, so that just means the man will pay for his half of the bill/his things. He doesnt gain any material things from her, but he also doesn’t have to spend money to date and hook up with multiple women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/24 09:19 PM
1	Princess treatment is just patriarchy in disguise That’s exactly what I meant. The average woman doesn’t get those things. They go 50/50 on dates. Any favor that her boyfriend does for her.. she will end up cashapping him the gas money and etc. You keep confusing the majority of women (90%) with the small percentage of women WHO do get treated to dates, get driven around for free, gifts etc. Most women keep their finances separate during marriage. If they share a mortgage/rent, she will pay her half of it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/24 09:16 PM
1	Princess treatment is just patriarchy in disguise Yeah, I know most married women aren’t dimes. Thats why they’re not getting a cent lol. And they’re not the ones who care about a man’s employment status, he can be unemployed since she doesn’t mind being the breadwinner. Dimes benefit the most cause they actually get treated to dinners… they aren’t getting a split bill. Not only that, but dimes don’t have to reimburse their boyfriend or husbands for the flowers or engagement ring he gets her. You realize the average woman has to pretty much pay…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/24 06:32 PM
1	Princess treatment is just patriarchy in disguise It doesn’t matter if the husband makes more because the woman usually pays for her own things or they split the bill 50/50 when do they do stuff/live together. If he makes more then that’s just extra money for him to save or spend. I’m bringing up those dimes because they’re the only women who “benefit” financially from dating and marriage because they’re not the ones who go half lol. The average woman isn’t getting a dime. You keep confusing the two.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/24 12:42 AM
1	Does the average guy have low standards? “Average” means something different for men and women. Did you forget the Hollywood beauty standards that men have set universally? A woman can find a non celebrity man attractive. Thats who they are sleeping with. There are more non model/non celebrity men than there are female celebrities/models. So this gives women a bigger pool by default. Most women you come across aren’t gonna look like Megan Fox, Adrianna Lima, Jessica Alba, Salma Hayek, Kim kardashian, Naomi Campbell or any of the Victor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 09:43 PM
1	Princess treatment is just patriarchy in disguise Yes they are. Do you know what the average woman is? They compete with men financially, there’s no way they’re gonna let a man spend more on them cause then it “emasculates” them since they see themselves in the masculine role in a relationship. Or do you think the average woman = kept housewives, IG/fitness/supermodels, sugar babies/dancers/etc?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 09:35 PM
1	Does the average guy have low standards? How’s there none? She can get rejected. Just like how a man can try and get rejected, but men won’t even try	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 09:34 PM
1	Does the average guy have low standards? Let’s pretend he does live in America. Half the girls here are overweight.. this means the average woman is of average looks, she’s not on the “attractive” scale at all. She’s just plain and not ugly. So his standards are pretty high if it eliminates 50% of the dating pool (of single women). Average women are not supposed to be considered “attractive” or “pretty” at all. Do you know what average is? When it comes to money, it means they are not rich or poor. They would be middle class. He is wan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 09:34 PM
1	Does the average guy have low standards? I didn’t say that woman is “unattractive”. But average women aren’t supposed to be “attractive” either. They’re supposed to be plain. Which means they’re not pretty or in shape. But they’re not ugly or obese either.. they’re just in the middle and neutral. If she walks into a room, nobody is looking at her. If she posts on insta, she won’t really get any replies, likes or compliments. “Average” women aren’t supposed to turn heads or be given any attention for their appearance. Which means you’re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 02:31 AM
0	Does the average guy have low standards? Why shouldn’t you? I know below average men that are unemployed who still think they have a chance with the insta models that they thirst follow.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 02:30 AM
2	Does the average guy have low standards? False. Do you know what “average” means? It means they don’t have any attractive or desirable qualities. They’re just average. “Average” women aren’t supposed to be pretty, stylish or in shape. They’re supposed to be plain.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 02:28 AM
0	Does the average guy have low standards? Yes, I read the original comment which is why I left my own comment. If below average women can muster up the courage to approach above average men… then I would assume that the same can be done with below average men and above average women	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 02:27 AM
2	Does the average guy have low standards? I find these statements hard to believe when American women have way lower standards than Filipina women (when it comes to casual sex and marriage, you realize asian women expect provision right? Meanwhile American women brag about being breadwinners to their unemployed husbands) And do you expect me to believe that 50% of American women are celibate? How are they finding men to sleep with?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 02:25 AM
2	The Reason Why Single Women Are So Entitled Then they should be fine with being single	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 10:25 PM
1	There are more high value women than high value men. Well men here usually bring up the divorce rates and how women can cheat without getting caught. Which is why I brought up that men also can’t keep a woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 10:24 PM
1	The Reason Why Single Women Are So Entitled I know it’s not easy to be a top man. But what about the second option? If women are okay with sharing a small % of men then why can’t men do the same and share a small % of women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 09:44 PM
1	Does the average guy have low standards? If women only find “20% of men attractive” then this would mean most men are gonna have a lower SMV than the average woman by default. Yet, most men don’t believe this even though they keep bringing up the 20% thing. If a girl has lower SMV than you, it means she wouldn’t be able to pass you up. Because she won’t be able to get anyone else. Men don’t realize that women can hold out for a week or a year for sex or a date. The only way they won’t hold out is if you are the best they can get.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 09:41 PM
1	Does the average guy have low standards? How is that any different from the unattractive, overweight or short men having a huge ego? Those girls are probably learning from men on how to be confident. I’ve seen men hype up another man saying that he can date a supermodel even though he’s short and broke, because “confidence is all that matters”	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 09:38 PM
0	Does the average guy have low standards? Well then why can’t average men just share that woman with Chad?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 09:35 PM
2	Does the average guy have low standards? Then tell men to do the same. Whats stopping below average/average men from going for above average women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 09:33 PM
1	The Reason Why Single Women Are So Entitled Well men can easily take advantage of this by just being a top man or just be okay with sharing a small % of women. If women can do it then why can’t men? I’m starting to think men are the ones that are actually more obsessed with monogamy than women are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 09:32 PM
2	Does the average guy have low standards? Yeah but if he wants a girl that he sees as “pretty” TO HIM then that’s not an “average” standard. Why wouldn’t he be with someone he only sees as average? Meaning he doesn’t find her face pretty, but he isn’t completely repulsed either. Women are always being encouraged to be with men they find unattractive. Yet men need a girl that has a pretty face to them? That means men have higher standards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 09:27 PM
1	Does the average guy have low standards? Yes, but an “average” woman wouldn’t have a pretty face.. it would be a face that’s just average. Meaning she’s not ugly, but she’s also not pretty (in the man’s subjective opinion)	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 09:11 PM
1	There are more high value women than high value men. How is he gonna keep someone that he couldn’t even get? Or if it’s so easy keeping a woman, why do most men that get cheated on never find out?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 09:10 PM
1	There are more high value women than high value men. A lot of men can’t keep a woman either, if you consider divorce rates.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 06:29 PM
0	There are more high value women than high value men. It depends on the type of woman he is going for. I have noticed a lot of women nowadays don’t care about a man’s resources because she wants to be the breadwinner herself, this means any man can be high value for her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 06:29 PM
3	Does the average guy have low standards? That’s not an average standard because a pretty face is not average. If he had actual average standards it would be a plain Jane with an average body (not overweight but definitely not attractive)	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 06:08 PM
2	Princess treatment is just patriarchy in disguise Nothing. But women that are masculine usually split everything 50/50 or are the breadwinners.. they’re not getting a dime from their partners	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 09:08 AM
1	Princess treatment is just patriarchy in disguise Yes American women. They’re masculine and are always competing with men financially. Thinking that they are proving something by going half. Or bragging about how they do the pursuing part and play the masculine role in their relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 02:52 AM
2	Princess treatment is just patriarchy in disguise In 2024, most women pay separately for the dates, trips and other romantic things. You can buy a girl flowers and venmo request her the money afterwards	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 02:40 AM
1	Princess treatment is just patriarchy in disguise Are these men in monogamous relationships where most women pay their own part? Or are they dating sugar babies?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 11:39 PM
3	Princess treatment is just patriarchy in disguise Those aren’t feminists though. Feminists are the ones who brag about buying their own engagement rings or how they receive no push/anniversary presents. And most women don’t get a dime from their partners. The women you’re describing is not an average woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 10:42 PM
0	If you knowingly enter a superficial relationship you don’t deserve sympathy when it goes south! Those women literally shit in stay at home moms, spoiled girlfriends, and push/anniversary presents. They compete with men financially and feel like they have something to prove by not letting him take care of her. Thats why they equate a man paying for the first date “buying” her body/person. They purposely try to have the man’s role in a relationship (provider/protector). How is that not masculine? And how does the average woman “gold dig” when they hook up as easily and cheaply as the men the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 10:15 PM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It By looking at the couples who get together and stay together. If women are so unhappy fcking short and overweight men, why would they choose to commit to one instead of having one night stands with other men or possibly just using a toy/stay celibate?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 10:09 PM
1	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. If you look at the MAJORITY of women and their dating experiences, you would see that most of them don’t get a dime from their partners. You could make a thread on this forum, or ask a female peer or even a stranger and they would tell you that (as long as they are average and not the IG model type) You’re the one confusing the majority of women with a SMALL percentage of women that just so happen to be spoiled by their partners.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 10:08 PM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Yes, but those same women are already willing to date men that are “uglier” “fatter” and with less money than Leo. Women could think a man is fat or ugly but that doesn’t stop her from considering him when it comes to her dating options.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 10:06 PM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It I didn’t call Leo ugly or fat lol. He’s a provider so he’s definitely not average. The average woman literally has no standards.. she’s fine with smashing a man she finds “unattractive”. Those stats are true, a woman can find a man short and overweight but she will still date him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 01:41 PM
1	If you knowingly enter a superficial relationship you don’t deserve sympathy when it goes south! No, I’m talking about the majority of women. So the women you know are the IG model/fitness model type? That isn’t the average woman… You are confusing kept women/sugar babies/spoiled girlfriends, stay at home moms with the average, masculine woman in the states that goes 50/50 and thinks she’s a provider/protector Anyones “social circle” is a small % of the population. Please look at the majority of women lol it doesn’t matter if she’s a cashier or a doctor… she won’t be getting a dime from her…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 01:39 PM
1	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. Im talking about the majority of women, Just because you know 10+ sugar babies or spoiled girlfriends doesn’t change the fact that there are millions of women who won’t get a dime from the men they date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 12:17 PM
1	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. Is this stat for the couples in America? Or from a country where the women are actually feminine? Most women here arent getting anything from their partners. How can he contribute more financially if she is paying for all of her own things and half of what they share together?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 12:15 PM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Most of those men can’t be priced out due to “hoeflation” because I already told you that the majority of women have no standards lol. Nobody is calling Pete Davidson “medium ugly”. They are referring to the 5’5 man you’re talking about. You keep confusing the 90% of masculine, overweight women with no standards with the 10% that actually put effort into their appearance. The only women I know who talk like that are woman that work as hired guns or have been kept/spoiled girlfriends. The vast ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 12:09 PM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It You are confusing me with someone else. I never said Leo was ugly and fat lol. I said that no one would care about his appearance, because he’s successful and obviously a provider. And nope, men might not numerically “rate” themselves higher but they are used to women saying yes to them or replying to them. That is why average men constantly message celebrities and insta models. That’s also why they think they have a chance with you if they subscribe to your onlyfans. They think climaxing to som…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 12:05 PM
1	If you knowingly enter a superficial relationship you don’t deserve sympathy when it goes south! No, lol. Most women are too masculine to be gold diggers. You are focusing on the small % that are feminine. They don’t want to be provided for, that’s why they always shit on stay at home moms and spoiled girlfriends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 11:16 AM
0	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. Most women are blue pill… which is why majority will go 50/50 and never get a dime spent on them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 06:49 AM
-1	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. Show me one average woman (no 21-25 yo ig models or bottle girls) who doesn’t have to reimburse her boyfriend/fiance for the things he gets for her. She would most likely end up single if she didn’t pay it back.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 06:43 AM
1	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. The hott “broke” women aren’t the ones going 50/50 lol. And most men aren’t dating hott women. Most women aren’t IG models/sugar babies or even fit. Most men are dating average women… which is why they won’t spend a dime on them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 06:42 AM
1	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. But these are the women that are actually being taken cared of by their partners. And some of it looks natural. My point is most women won’t have huge boobs (has to be perky), a small waist and a big butt. These women won’t be getting a dime. I think actions speak louder than words. There’s a reason why most women end up reimbursing their husbands for their engagement rings. They know that if they expect him to come out of pocket for them, he would never propose.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 06:40 AM
2	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. Do you only date sugar babies and IG/fitness models? Where do you live? I live in Vegas. The girls who don’t fit the big boobs, small waist, fit bottle girl or bbl baddies aesthetic wont be getting a dime. Majority of women don’t fit this aesthetic. I’m not talking about the models who work at day clubs or women that don’t work cause their boyfriend finances their life. I’m talking about the average woman who works in healthcare/law/corporate. If they had the expectation of their boyfriend picki…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 06:38 AM
-2	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. Go work at a date night restaurant. Ask women (not the IG model or sugar baby types since they make up a small percentage) Or just ask any server.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 06:34 AM
1	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. They pay them back, because everything is separate or split. Meaning he won’t be coming out of pocket for her, this includes the flowers. Most women I know (the ones who don’t sugar date or don’t fit a certain aesthetic) are not getting a dime out of their partners. Why would he spend his own money to get her flowers? lol these women would get broken up with if that was their expectation. Rent is split 50/50.. if it’s $2000 it means each person will be paying $1000. Yeah but why does a woman bei…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 06:33 AM
1	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. If she’s the breadwinner then that means she’s the provider. You’re proving my point. Most women aren’t being taken cared of. They are going 50/50 or even paying more. How is that not ideal for men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 04:22 AM
1	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. Supermodels get taken cared of. Dinner dates, trips, gifts, flowers. These regular girls don’t get a dime. Most of them can’t even get a coffee date where the man pays for both the drinks. How on earth is that the same treatment as a supermodel? Most marriages are 50/50.. so how does it not result in a relationship?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 04:16 AM
-2	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. They end up reimbursing him for the ring. If they didn’t, most of these men would not propose lol. It’s similar to how when a man gets her flowers, she will venmo him back for it. It doesn’t come “free”, she essentially pays for it. Yes, but those women are paying for their own half of the rent/mortgage.. so it’s still 50/50.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 04:12 AM
1	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. That would be considered overweight/plump in my city, especially if she doesn’t have huge boobs/bbl with a very small waist. So my point stands. That type of woman you’re describing is going 50/50.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 04:10 AM
1	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. Ok then tell me how does an average regular woman looks like? Cause I am referring to the 90% that doesn’t have a boob job, small waist, bbl, lip filler, hair extensions etc	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 03:58 AM
1	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. The woman that goes 50/50 presents like an average woman. It’s not the 32ddd, 24 inch waist, bbl types aged 20-27 you see in Miami, vegas, la. They don’t work in modeling, sugaring, or nightlife. They are not younger than 28. They don’t present like a kept woman. Meaning they are not the unemployed women you see, that are driving a Porsche and going to Pilates everyday, while their boyfriend or whoever takes care of them completely.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 03:54 AM
0	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. Is there a study that says this? If thats the case then why do most women have to pay for their own engagement rings? Or why they have to pay their boyfriend’s gas money to pick them up? Or asking for separate checks on their dates?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 03:52 AM
0	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. Miami is an exception because you most likely went for the sugar baby/model type of woman. That is not common or the average. 90% of women aren’t getting a dime. And yes thats cause most men are attracted to the small % of women that have financial standards.. that doesn’t mean they’re the majority or the average.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 03:51 AM
-2	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. It’s the truth. I live in vegas.. a lot of women are kept women/sugar babies/dancers/escorts/models/hired guns here so it’s an exception. However, the average woman who works in healthcare, law, HR Etc don’t date in the same way. They split everything and usually pay for their own engagement rings	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 02:54 AM
-4	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. No, most of the time those type of women will ask for separate checks. They literally call other women prostitutes for being stay at home moms or for letting the man pick up the check. Im truly curious about the type of women you’re talking about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 02:53 AM
-4	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. Most women are also happy with that same thing. They’re also happy with first dates being Netflix and chill dates in that studio apartment. You are talking about the small % of women that are kept women or sugar babies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 02:51 AM
1	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. Most men are dating average women. Unless you are dating sugar babies, models (insta/runway/fitness) or a bottle girl/dancer from Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Miami, Scottsdale or NYC then I doubt it. I have seen the kind of woman that most men date. Those women are willing to go 50/50. Hell, I’ve noticed most of those women don’t even get any of their husband’s finances during a marriage. She will still have to pay her half for the dates. There’s no way you think every woman has the aesthetic of a s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 02:50 AM
-1	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. No they don’t because they ask for separate checks, so she will pay for what she got.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 02:46 AM
1	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. No it’s not. Most men are not dating sugar babies, fitness/insta models etc. Most of you are dating average women, I know nurses and doctors who go 50/50 with their boyfriend or husband. It’s not about how much money they make separately, the point is he won’t spend a dime on her because those women think it’s sex work if he covers the bill for dinner, or a trip. It’s also why a lot of men venmo request their gfs for gas money.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 02:45 AM
2	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. I find that hard to believe unless you have only dated girls that are models, a hired gun or she was a sugar baby or kept woman of some sort. The majority of women don’t get a dime from the men they date	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/24 08:21 PM
0	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. Yeah but nowadays it’s basically free since most of those women go 50/50 on everything and don’t require dates, trips or gifts to keep them satisfied.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/24 08:04 PM
9	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. Not anymore because a lot of women split the finances 50/50 with their husband. Or they completely keep their money separate. There are men who don’t even have to pay for the dinner dates they take their wife out to. She needs to pay half	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/24 08:02 PM
1	Do you think most men would forgive a cheating girlfriend if she was a good girlfriend ? No. It’s in America. Two types of girls I have seen in Vegas, Los Angeles, Orange County and Hawaii.. She’s either treated well and spoiled (she might be in sexwork, sugar baby, bottle girl, or another job where it’s required to be attractive and fit) And then the AVERAGE girl (the majority of women) won’t ever get a coffee, some, free pickup from her boyfriend/fiance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/24 07:54 PM
1	Do you think most men would forgive a cheating girlfriend if she was a good girlfriend ? I find it hard to believe that the “average” women you know are somehow capable of getting their partners to spend money on them, or to pick them up without needing gas money. When there are literal bikini models in my city who had to get into sugar dating, cause they weren’t good enough to get a free coffee out of a man. And that’s because the men are so used to women expecting nothing out of a relationship. Some women literally pay for their own engagement rings and hospital bills when they gi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/24 12:02 AM
0	Do you think most men would forgive a cheating girlfriend if she was a good girlfriend ? Nope. There’s been more girls than ever entering the “sugar” bowl because they are frustrated with how modern relationships lack courting/spoiling. Most women I know in regular relationships are not getting a dime from their partner. This includes the pregnant, married ones. You must only know ig models and supermodels? The majority of women are average. They can’t ask for the things you are describing, when there are 10+ other women willing to accept nothing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/24 10:52 PM
1	Do you think most men would forgive a cheating girlfriend if she was a good girlfriend ? But if you look at most relationships in 2024, they split everything. So the OP Is right by saying that she won’t get anything out of it. You replied saying “so he won’t ever buy or make you something?” Why would a man be expected to buy or make a woman something when the only women who expect that are either in sex work, sugar dating, or the hypergamous type that want to be taken cared of. There’s no way you think 70% of women are sugar babies or stay at home wives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/24 10:11 PM
-1	Do you think most men would forgive a cheating girlfriend if she was a good girlfriend ? Just go look at those modern feminist’s relationships… you’re confusing them with normal women who have standards/traditional beliefs. Look at how they split the bill at the restaurants. Or the way they talk about stay at home moms, push presents, and etc. There’s plenty in this forum. And most of those women are willing to date/and get pregnant by unemployed men. Where are those men gonna get the money to pay for childcare, dinner dates or flowers?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/24 09:42 PM
0	Do you think most men would forgive a cheating girlfriend if she was a good girlfriend ? They are dating. There are married couples who do the same thing. What you’re describing is a traditional man, or women that are hypergamous and are purposely seeking out a woman who can take care of her (in any way). Most modern relationships, the man is not expected to pay for the first date or for any date. Liberal, feminist women literally shit on women who get spoiled/stay at home moms all the time cause they consider that woman is being “bought”. Why would a man be expected to pay for a fi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/24 09:14 PM
-1	Do you think most men would forgive a cheating girlfriend if she was a good girlfriend ? As somebody who doesn’t date in the “regular way”, what she said was correct. A lot of sugar dating is the same as a regular relationship. Except your partner helps you out, gets you gifts and helps you out financially. They spoil you, which is something that isn’t done in regular relationships unless that couple has some traditional beliefs. In most modern relationships, 99% of women won’t be able to get a coffee or flowers (unless she sends him the money for it first) from their partner. There…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/24 08:40 PM
1	Do you think most men would forgive a cheating girlfriend if she was a good girlfriend ? Attractive women yes. Especially the ones who are already sugar babies or hired guns. But the average woman who goes 50/50 with her partner, can not find another partner easily.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/24 08:34 PM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It The same thing can be said for the men who can’t get female attention or sex from their wife. If the woman you’re seeking for a “romantic” relationship does not find you attractive and does not want to get intimate with you, then that means you also have unrealistic expectations. I’ve noticed most women are okay with being single, or being in a sex less marriage, or just sleeping around. They’re not willing to “settle” into forcing themselves to have sex with someone they don’t find attractive. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/24 12:07 AM
0	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It The point is the husband is willing to be intimate with her, but it’s not reciprocated. This means one party is settling more than the other one. Unless the man is also okay with it being sexless/platonic too?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/24 12:05 AM
1	If you knowingly enter a superficial relationship you don’t deserve sympathy when it goes south! Most women in 2024 are too masculine to be “gold diggers”. They compete with men financially and want to brag to their girlfriends about how she’s the breadwinner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/24 07:11 PM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Men like you guys are not swiping or talking to the average woman. I’m aware the average woman is overweight, but they’re not the ones who care about a man’s looks or finances. So why don’t you guys go pair up with them? Those are the same girls who put out with everyone, go on coffee dates, and are willing to be the breadwinners. lol I live in Las Vegas where plenty of women are fit and are sugar babies. Those are the only women who have standards here. If you went for the “average” woman, you …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/24 07:04 PM
1	Guys who did escorts - did/would you tell your SO? The women who think like that only think like that cause they have been brainwashed by men to think it’s normal to be cheap and easy to access. Some women are in 2-5 year long relationships. Their boyfriend has never spent a dime on them. Everything is split 50/50. She gets no presents. If her car breaks down, he will charge her gas money to pick her up. Some married couples are like this as well. This is why those women are in disbelief when they find out other women require more to access them…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/24 06:42 PM
1	Guys who did escorts - did/would you tell your SO? I disagree with the time vs money part. The average girl who isn’t hypergamous, in sex work or sugar dating doesn’t require much time to sleep with. They hook up with strangers on tinder.. no date needed, no std results needed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/24 06:38 PM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Yes, but they’re just copying men so why do you guys only tell the women they’re delusional and not men? Men are the ones who complain about how they only get 1 or 2 matches a week on dating apps, but Instagram made them believe they can bag a supermodel by simply following them. No woman thinks she can get a 6’2 chad supermodel just cause she saw his pictures on instagram and hit the “follow” button. Men spend hours watching porn and think that’s their sex life. At least women actually draw the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/24 06:32 PM
2	Guys who did escorts - did/would you tell your SO? I don’t think they base this assumption off of the man. They only think like that because they think other women are free and easy to access. (Her mindset is “if I willing to hook up after a $5 coffee date, it means other women will too and won’t ever require more”) I’m pretty sure they’ve been brainwashed by men too to think that it’s normal, that’s why some women call stay at home moms “gold diggers” or “prostitutes” bc they think any woman who receives any financial help is being “bought” by …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/24 07:09 AM
2	Guys who did escorts - did/would you tell your SO? Not exactly.. women in America hook up for a $5 cup of coffee. There are girls who have been in a long term relationship, but when they go out with their boyfriends they will split the bill. Lots of date night restaurants here can be $300 for 2. But you would just be paying the $150 part. And she would be paying her own part. When you take an escort out to dinner, she’s charging by the hour so she’s not even eating for free. She’s being paid to. However you are not required to even buy a $5 coff…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/24 02:39 AM
1	Guys who did escorts - did/would you tell your SO? Yes, but a lot of men are gonna have to do that. Especially if the women they are going for have standards and aren’t the type to prefer “dad bods” “short kings” or “medium ugly” men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/24 02:36 AM
3	Guys who did escorts - did/would you tell your SO? This is a funny statement cause how can a non sex worker/sugar baby woman cost more than hiring a pro? They literally split the bills/dates etc	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/24 01:02 AM
1	Guys who did escorts - did/would you tell your SO? I know. Because a lot of men can’t tell if a woman was an escort or sugar baby in her past either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/24 07:57 PM
13	Guys who did escorts - did/would you tell your SO? Most sugar dads are married men. Most onlyfans subscribers are married/taken. Most johns are also taken/married. A lot of taken women are in denial about this, cause they can’t imagine their partners spending money on another woman since he’s making her split the bills with him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/24 07:51 PM
8	Guys who did escorts - did/would you tell your SO? No, if you look at the girls on sugar dating sites/onlyfans/strip clubs/escort ads and the regular dating sites. There’s a huge difference in the caliber of women (appearance). Why do you think so many groom to bes offer the dancers extra money to cheat at the bachelor party? Cause their aesthetic is 100% different than their wife’s. Most men are average looking, they’re not gonna be able to hook up with someone who’s attractive or fit by just using tinder/bumble. Any time a dancer tries to tell…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/24 07:49 PM
1	Guys who did escorts - did/would you tell your SO? Most women can’t tell. A lot of guys who use those services are in one of those 50/50 relationships with a wife or gf.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/24 07:44 PM
11	Q4W: Which of these dating preferences is acceptable? Omg! The porn one lol. Ask any girl who’s dabbled in onlyfans or content creation, their subscribers actually think they have a chance with them. This is why I think it’s funny when men say things like “just because a girl dated chad for 6 months does not mean he wants to commit to her forever. She’s delusional in thinking she can reject dating an average man just cause she dated a chad before”.. but having sex with chad for a couple months is a thing that actually happens in real life. They nev…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/24 03:53 PM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Yeah a lot of marriages are like that cause those women settle for a platonic partner	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/24 01:45 AM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It But this post is about wanting women to go hook up with men they don’t find attractive and don’t want to be with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/24 01:44 AM
1	Prostitution should be legalized Yes. Some of the most beautiful women I have met are sugar babes or escorts. But I disagree with you that the average woman holds power when it comes to the suggestion of sex. I’ve noticed a lot of girls hook up with a lot of random men for free from dating apps, and they look down on SW. How do they have power in that, when every other girl on that same dating app is also sleeping around for free? A lot of women also split the bills with her husband/boyfriend.. while he is spending it on his su…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 05:36 PM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It If chads aren’t a “real life experience” then you guys can stop claiming that women are sleeping with them, in real life. They’re only watching them on a screen right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 05:25 PM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Yes, a residency dj would be considered a chad. We get a lot of high rollers here too. Those are chads. They’re dressed well, and spend thousands a night.. which attracts a lot of women here. I don’t think a regular “5’10 good looking guy” is a chad here in my city.. cause girls also care about lifestyle, connections and money here. I know a guy who looks like a younger Brad Pitt, and is 6’0 and very fit. He’s even complained that he can’t get any matches on bumble and tinder. That’s how I knew …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 05:23 PM
3	Prostitution should be legalized I never said all married/taken men do that. However, the ones who do. Some of them aren’t rich enough to spoil their own gf/wife and to see sugar babies/dancers etc. That’s why they purposely choose a woman who’s willing to pay half the bills and that are okay with no presents etc. These women also cook and clean for him. Anyways, this is just reinforcing my belief that most women would never find out if their man sees escorts, or currently has a sugar baby or sugar girlfriend. They are happy to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 10:54 AM
3	Prostitution should be legalized It’s still way safer than hooking up with a random from tinder. Cause they definitely don’t use protection	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 10:00 AM
3	Prostitution should be legalized Is she low, mid, high end? Most of the girls I know who do well would never do unprotected. Thats a huge risk they’re making since it’s their livelihood. And they get tested more than the average girl who’s on tinder anyways. Men have told me that they will bareback strangers, and it’ll cost $0. Maybe a coffee.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 10:00 AM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Why would a woman want to have sex with a man she’s not attracted to?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 09:57 AM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It I don’t know why a man would want to do this to himself. Which is why I don’t understand why the OP wants women to marry men they don’t find attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 09:56 AM
12	Prostitution should be legalized A lot of taken/married men use these services.. so they actually are able to find a woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 09:39 AM
0	Prostitution should be legalized Sex workers don’t have unprotected sex. How’s it not safer than the randoms on tinder? From what I’ve heard, those are the girls who don’t use protection. It’s just the paying part that men are against.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 09:28 AM
2	Prostitution should be legalized Because I live and work in Vegas. I know girls who work bachelor parties. I also know girls who do onlyfans. You realize the majority of subscribers and clients at the clubs are married/taken right? They usually have a wife or gf back in their hometown who works and contributes to the bills. Ask yourself why he isn’t providing for her? Either way, most of these women will never find out.. since they probably have the same mindset you do and think it’s normal for men to be stingy with their wife,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 09:24 AM
-2	Prostitution should be legalized Incels can already try sugar dating. Most men refuse to do this cause they don’t want to pay. What makes you think they will pay for legal prostitutes when it’s something they expect for free?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 09:05 AM
-3	Prostitution should be legalized One way to tell is if he goes 50/50 with his wife or gf. A lot of those men spend their money at strip clubs, sugar babies etc. Dancers who work bachelor parties say this all the time because groom to bes offer them more $ to cheat but it’s actually the taken/engaged women who refuse to listen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 09:04 AM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It So? Sex isn’t a need. They can live without it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 08:50 AM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It How do passport bros get what they want when they feel entitled to ig models and pageant winners? Show me one passport pro who’s in a committed relationship with a IG model or miss universe winner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 08:47 AM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It So if you were a woman, you would choose to be intimate with a man you find unattractive? I find this hard to believe unless you think straight men would also choose to be intimate with other men (that he is not attracted to) Just wondering.. when a man has options.. does he purposely go out and pick someone he is repulsed by to settle down and get married to? These women don’t have to get married. Or they can, but it’ll be a sexless one. Yes I know chads. I already said I don’t see why we can’t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 08:46 AM
2	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Desirability is based on the opposite gender. If he went for a woman who had the same amount of options as him, he wouldn’t think that. For example, if a girl gets no attention in real life, online or social events.. her male equivalent would also be someone who gets no attention. Also, you can’t force attraction. You can’t say someone belongs to you just because you find them attractive. They would have to reciprocate. So you’re saying that women should want to rip their clothes off just becaus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 04:00 AM
2	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It I hope all women read his comments so they understand why they should never settle. Men won’t, but will expect women to 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 03:21 AM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It I have seen those type of videos, and it’s usually posted by desperate, independent feminist women who think Netflix and chill is a good first date. They have no standards and let anyone smash in the name of sexual liberation. They’re not the ones that interact with “chads”. These are the same women who think other women are gold diggers just because their bf got them a present or paid for dinner. The women you’re talking about are usually ran thru by average men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 03:17 AM
3	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It I stopped reading this when you called yourself a chad. No chad is gonna complain about how he is effortlessly taking all the women away from average men. Have you seen how some “chads” talk about average men? They don’t feel bad about taking their gfs or wives! Lol it’s chads who volunteer to be “bulls”, these are the men who get to smash the hotwives while her husband watches or is in another room. You are not a woman. I would bet money that if you were, you would be doing the same thing. (Sle…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 03:12 AM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It This is just false. Men and women want the same thing. Partner they find attractive Their partner treats them nice You can’t say men are okay with average women when a lot of them are refusing to date the overweight, single moms that are willing to treat them right. Those men are also prioritizing looks.. so why is it wrong when women copy men and do it too?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 02:51 AM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Yes I am. Can’t they watch adult content and self pleasure? Hire a professional? Or just find a girl who finds them attractive, and ignore the girls who don’t?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 02:49 AM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It You can’t force attraction. It’s even more unrealistic to think we can force women into finding “unattractive” attractive by trying to shame them. If a man said he isn’t attracted to overweight women, y’all would leave him alone.. because you know you can’t force another grown man into changing his mind. Why do you guys care so much about changing women’s mind?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 02:48 AM
2	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Cooking and cleaning has become gender less and is expected to be shared duties because men also expect women to go 50/50 on the bills now. Have you ever heard of hotwives? There are women who split bills and share a house/family with their husband, but she gets to sleep with other men. And her husband is okay with it. There is a male version of the Madonna/whore complex. The husband would be the Madonna, and the men she is physically attracted to would be the “whore”	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 02:46 AM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Okay so you’re saying that women should pay their own bills in a marriage? Why would they do this with a man they don’t even want to have sex with? What would be the point in a woman being married to a man she only wants to be platonic with? She’s splitting the bills with him, while he is expecting sex that won’t happen. If most of the men on here can wake up as a girl on day, and interact with Chad… and then interact with a man she doesn’t find attractive… you guys would be able to understand w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 02:44 AM
2	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Attraction is something that can’t be forced. Do you think gay men can force themselves to be straight? Can a man force himself to find Ellen Degeneres attractive? He either finds her alluring, or he doesn’t. For women, she either looks at him and desires him. Or she doesn’t. Why do you think some women say “oh I only see him as a friend or brother?” It means she likes his personality, but doesn’t see him in that way I think more women would be open to the marriages you are talking about as long…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 02:40 AM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It I don’t participate in vanilla dating culture.. so I don’t even hook up with chads. However, I don’t see why the women who do.. wouldn’t? They can hook up with Chad, and commit to someone else later. You know that right? How’s that delusional when they’re actually gonna get piped down by Chad and are trying to get this out of their system before they eventually settle down? Some women have told me that the 5 months they spent with a Chad was more memorable than their 3 year relationships. Chad a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 02:35 AM
-1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It I’m still confused as to why men care about this so much. At the end of the day, most women can’t be forced into a romantic relationship with a man she’s not attracted to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 12:01 AM
2	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Men thirst follow random IG models to adjust their own bar for attraction. Thats why dating is harder for the average man now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 11:10 PM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It The women who care about income are a small %, and they only care cause they have options. So they are more likely seen as more attractive than the average man. You realize that there are multiple studies showing that most women find 80% of men undesirable/unattractive right? That’s why these women expect provision or something else. Whereas she might break the rules for Chad. But men don’t get to decide who chads are cause men aren’t the ones who are gonna sleep with them. It’s women who “selec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 10:49 PM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Women actually know these chads in real life… men are trying to get with women that don’t even know he exists. How is that not too high of a standard?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 10:39 PM
4	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It So men can follow IG models that they don’t know, and decide that’s what they deserve? 😂😂😂😂 Then who are yall to tell random women that they can’t hook up with chad? If she consents, and Chad consents.. why do they need another random man’s permission? If women had low standards, they would be happy to settle for an average man that they feel absolutely 0 attraction to. It wouldn’t be chads getting all the attention, it would be the men that are the complete opposite of him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 10:37 PM
3	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Okay so if women are independent, how would that turn into them settling for a guy they are not attracted to? Wouldn’t they just stay single? Are men independent? Why can’t they just let Chad hoard all of the women? Why does he need a woman? Well a lot of men want the same things that Chad wants. Why should they get the same treatment if those girls are not attracted to him? If she’s gonna have sex with her husband (that she doesn’t find attractive), she would be more of a dumpster since she doe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 10:35 PM
4	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Well a lot of average men have the same ego that Chad has, so yes women find that unattractive. If you don’t want women to sleep around with chads then why don’t all men hold a meeting with chad and make him submit to these rules?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 10:10 PM
4	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Social media has made men believe that the women they thirst follow on instagram are their “looksmatch”. Even though she doesn’t know him and won’t be following back. The equivalent is a woman following Leo DiCaprio on instagram, lusting over his pictures and then deciding that he is her looksmatch. If it works that way for men then why wouldn’t is also work this way for women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 10:04 PM
2	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Average earning/height/face men aren’t going for their equivalent. Their female equivalent wouldn’t be someone who has a pretty face, or a nice body. It would be AVERAGE. She would be the kind of woman who won’t turn any heads, and can’t get any likes on Instagram. If these men were actually pursuing those women, they would have an easy time since those women also don’t have options. Instead, these men are purposely seeking out women who have fit, hourglass figures, nice teeth, and have been not…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 10:02 PM
2	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Most men would have an easy time getting women if they treated them well and had a good personality. But a lot of them think they are a Chad and think their looks are enough. Once they get hit with reality (little matches on apps), they will complain about women overlooking them for their appearance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 09:56 PM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Yes. Cause I see average guys being posted on there lol. Some of them don’t even have jobs or cars. And they mostly get posted cause they did something “mean”, whereas Chads can sleep around without being an asshole to the women he frequently interacts with because he doesn’t have anything romantic prove. Most women who “vanilla date” don’t have the high standards that you guys claim they have.. if they were, they would be hypergamous instead of intentionally choosing unemployed, carless men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 09:55 PM
1	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It “They literally think one of these players are gonna marry her” Is the same as me telling you “men think a woman will drop hookups with Chad to settle for a passionless relationship with a man they find unattractive”. Would these men be willing to accept a sexless marriage/relationship?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 09:53 PM
4	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It If it’s not possible for him, then this means he is not a top guy. So if you know you’re an average man, you are gonna have to do more to compete with top men. If average men are aware of this- why do so many of you refuse to step up in other ways? Or why does it matter if the top men hoard all of the women? Women aren’t gonna magically find unattractive men.. attractive just because you are trying to shame them into doing so. Notice how yall never tell other men to date unattractive, overweight…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 09:51 PM
0	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Social media does the same to men. Men follow IG models and start thinking that is their league. They DM girls who have a million followers and then get mad she won’t reply back or give him a chance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 09:45 PM
4	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Would men be okay with sexless relationships/marriages then? Wouldn’t it make sense for women to sleep with the men they find attractive (Chad), if she can’t lock him down. Then she will have accept a platonic marriage with a man she doesn’t like.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 09:41 PM
7	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Okay and why do men care so much? Let women share the top 20% of men or let them become single cat ladies. How can you tell women to lower their standards when most men won’t date the female equivalent of them? If you want someone in shape or pretty then the woman should be allowed to want someone tall or successful. If you’re average then go for average face/average weight women (which is overweight in the US since 40% of women here are overweight)	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 09:38 PM
6	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Yet average men claim that supermodels want them all the time. So what’s the truth? It’s always “it’s so easy to bag supermodels. It’s the mid landwhale single moms who require a date as a first meet because tinder has made them entitled”	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 09:34 PM
0	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It They’re just projecting. They’re the ones trying to shame/force women into dating men they don’t find attractive. Yet men will never try to convince each other into dating a “mid land whale single mom” because she is unattractive. They don’t realize that, that is exactly how women view men they find unattractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 09:31 PM
2	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It This is exactly why so many men complain amount dead bedrooms and divorce. Either party doesn’t have to settle. Why can’t that man just stay single?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 09:22 PM
4	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Why can’t those “good” men go for women that are already attracted to them? Dead bedrooms and divorce is so common because women have already been marrying men they don’t find attractive. It’s usually older women who tell younger women that they regret settling.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 08:32 PM
8	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Yes, they’re different. But the opposite gender decides how desirable they are. You can’t say an average woman is the same as an average man, when the average man would not even have a chance to be “pumped and dumped” or “used for money” by a Stacy. How is he gonna be in a romantic/intimate relationship with these women if those women are not willing to sleep with him? Are they suddenly gonna get wet for him just cause he tells them she is his looksmatch? What gives him the authority to do so? I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 06:51 PM
17	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Why does it matter to you guys? Then just let those women share Chad or let them stay single. That doesn’t mean they have to date a man that they don’t want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 06:10 PM
15	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Men will never truly date a girl they found unattractive. Thats why they always complain about “single mom landwhales”. They know they see those women as undesirable but somehow they can not connect the dots that other women see them in the same way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 06:09 PM
0	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It It’s settling if the man is willing to be intimate with her but it isn’t reciprocated. There’s plenty of women that are not attracted enough to be intimate on a regular basis with their husband or bf.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 06:08 PM
3	The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit It Men would have no trouble dating if they went for women that were just as desirable as them. If she can have situationships with Chad, you should be able to have situationships with Stacy. If you have less options than your male peers, you should get with a woman who has less options than her female peers (less messages/attention/hook ups/matches/dates/etc).	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 06:07 PM
1	Women shouldn't give average guys a chance in their youth Because women can get male companionship anywhere? She can go on Instagram, a dating app or to a social event. Men will be friends with women they find attractive. Or they will court her if they are interested in smashing or dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 03:10 PM
1	Women shouldn't give average guys a chance in their youth You can’t be serious. Men love hypergamous women. If they didn’t, they would be fine dating overweight, unattractive single moms (that are not hypergamous at all) instead of complaining about the small % of women who have standards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 03:08 PM
0	Women shouldn't give average guys a chance in their youth There are plenty of women who had no standards in their 20s. They go 50/50 with their man and he still ends up leaving. Women like to think that the less a man does for you, the more he likes you and won’t ever leave	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 03:06 PM
0	Women shouldn't give average guys a chance in their youth If she’s mad it would be because she has no standards in her 20s and she settled for an average man. Average man can also leave women too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 03:05 PM
2	Women shouldn't give average guys a chance in their youth It’s not. A young woman automatically beats out women that are older, not in shape, single moms etc. If a woman should settle for an average man, she should only do so once she’s no longer desirable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 03:03 PM
1	Rich, Handsome, and Faithful Some people here must have not read the edit where it says the man would be working minimum wage forever.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 12:03 AM
1	Rich, Handsome, and Faithful Nah, most of them in here say they don’t care about money. Why would they be investing their time into an onlyfans or sugar daddy to gain something they don’t care about? And the funny thing is most sugar babies and onlyfans girls I know would have answered this question with “rich and faithful” or “handsome and rich”	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 12:01 AM
2	Rich, Handsome, and Faithful That’s actually a win/win considering that a lot of women who don’t care about money, and are going 50/50 with their man are still getting cheated on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 11:58 PM
1	Rich, Handsome, and Faithful I’ll never understand that logic. Lol I know girls who make good money in their career, who sugar on the side, who still prefer money over looks when it comes to their regular dating life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 11:57 PM
1	Rich, Handsome, and Faithful Not really. I know nurses, dancers, physician assistants and bottle girls (they can make 150-300k a year), still choose men with money. They can have a sugar daddy, even multiple and they’ll still want a boyfriend who makes more than them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 11:55 PM
1	Rich, Handsome, and Faithful Rich and faithful. A man’s looks don’t do anything for me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 11:54 PM
1	The attraction for age gap relationships seem one sided to me It’s more likely that the woman is bitter than she did everything “right” and still isn’t chosen. Men demonize attractive women who date older, richer men. Women also hate it when other women have standards. They shit on kept women, and stay at home moms all the time. So some of these women will have kids with unemployed men at age 18-25 to prove they are not shallow, and will expect a fairy tale happy ending for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/24 08:41 PM
0	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Yes, imagine how coocoo you have to be to watch content of other men getting laid	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 04:39 AM
0	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD And hopefully men will stop equating their hand to sleeping with a pornstar	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 04:34 AM
0	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Porn is exactly why there’s so many lonely men. They believe the storylines in porn, which is why they don’t put in any effort into getting laid in real life. They will think “why would I have to swipe and message women on tinder and take her on a date when a 10/10 fucked a stranger in a library just because he looked at her?” I don’t know one woman who believes her celebrity crush wants her, just because she watched a video. But I do know men who believe that the onlyfans girls he pays, want hi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 04:19 AM
0	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Exactly, which makes no sense cause he never slept with her in the first place. The funny thing is most men can actually sleep with adult content creators if they were willing to hire one. You guys can’t complain about chads when most of these girls actually hook up with him in real life. Imagine if these girls never even met Chad and somehow thought they dated him simply cause they looked at him through a screen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 04:10 AM
-1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD He might not think he’s a 10, but he will believe he actually slept with that 10. Or he will believe the storylines, this is why the average man thinks it’s so easy to get casual sex. They saw a pizza delivery man in porn smash 3 girls at once and will assume that’s all it takes. The female equivalent is a girl who looks at Chads on Instagram or any online site, pleasures herself to his photos, and then believing she actually hooked up with him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 04:04 AM
-1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD The difference between a pump and dump and watching porn is that one of them actually happened in real life. Touching yourself to a woman online does not mean that woman is your looksmatch lol. You can’t even pump and dump them. Because you guys never met. Thats the difference.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 04:00 AM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Yes. But the thing with porn is, men will think they actually pulled and slept with those women. That affects the way they treat their partners. Do you understand? It’s the equivalent to a woman looking at her celebrity crush on YouTube and deluding herself into thinking she dated him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 03:57 AM
0	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD The women that are upset are the ones who don’t profit off of any content creation. And it’s usually because men who watch it, actually believe it happened to them. So they think they actually were able to pull those “porn stars”. Men would be annoyed too if women started touching themselves to Jeff Bezos, and then start deluding themselves into thinking they actually slept with one of the richest men in the world. Then she will compare his finances to her boyfriend’s, even though it didn’t actu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 03:22 AM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Yeah, that’s exactly how I know most women don’t care about income and employment. You realize the percentage of sugar babies/dancers/kept women/etc is very small right? Unless you’re specifically focusing on a small % of the female population, it wouldn’t make sense for you to disagree with me. The average girl who has never worked in nightlife, adult entertainment or have been spoiled by a man does not have the financial expectations that you are describing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/24 12:37 AM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD You’re wrong. A lot of American women actually don’t have a price. Thats why a lot of guys use them as forever girlfriends, it’s guaranteed intimacy and companionship and you won’t have to pay a dime since everything is split in half. Thats why they laugh at women overseas for being sugar babes or for wanting provision from their husband. They’re the only women who think it’s a flex to sleep with men right away (no courting phase, no date) and to go 50/50. Not all, but a lot of them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/24 02:22 PM
-1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Men do not treat “average” women well. Average = mid, look at the way these men talk about them on here. They basically equate average looking women to land whales. This is what they use to justify regular women not deserving dates, trips, or gifts in a relationship. If you looked at the average TAKEN woman, you would realize no “10” would want her spot. Why would a 10 want to be taken out to a burger joint for their anniversary? Or receive socks for her birthday? I doubt a “10” would want to do…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/24 05:47 PM
-2	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD No it’s not a nice change of pace to be talked to like a “regular person”, considering men treat “regular” women very poorly. You are describing someone who has a low self esteem. This is like thinking a girl who has been spoiled by her exes will think it’s a nice change of pace to be treated the way average women are treated in relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/24 05:35 PM
-4	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD This is false. 10s get more attention, free things, invites to celebrity/business events more than 7s. They experience pretty privilege more. If anything, 7s are easier to approach cause they are not used attention, pretty privilege or even getting treated out on dates. (Netflix and chill doesn’t count)	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/24 05:28 PM
0	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Well to be fair you could have just told her that to her face. Some women will stay anyways.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/24 03:54 AM
-1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Yes I know girls who subsidize their bfs too. They do this for years, because they are expecting a ring.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/24 02:38 AM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD A lot of women are in relationships like that outside of Miami/la/vegas. Obviously this doesn’t apply to the girls who are getting taken seriously, they usually get a ring in 2 years max. I’m talking about obvious placeholders	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/24 02:37 AM
-1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Well most of those women have a very independent mindset that leads them into ignoring all of those signs. A girl I knew was led on for 5 years. It was obvious to everyone because her bf never took her in public, and would never get her presents. She didn’t see this as a red flag cause she thinks a man spending money on his gf = she’s his dependent/child. When the real reason was bc he did not like her at all, but she was guaranteed sex and company. And since it costs $0 to be with her, he kept …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/24 02:14 AM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD No. I think it’s obvious when a man is using a woman as a placeholder. The most obvious sign is he goes 50/50 with her, while he spoils other women (that he is not even having sex with, it could be a female friend he finds attractive or online girls). But those “independent” women are just in denial about it and think they will get a fairy tale ending if they wait on him for 10 years.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/24 02:10 AM
-1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Well guys have told me that a gf is guaranteed easy & cheap intimacy and companionship. And they could always have something on the side, forever girlfriends don’t want to leave for cheating and etc cause they feel like they already spent too much time invested in him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/24 02:08 AM
-2	If you are fine driving a used car you should be fine with having a relationship who is settling with you Most men can’t afford to “own” the women they want. Most men shoot out of their league, which is why the woman isn’t attracted to him enough to want to perform or do her job.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 08:33 PM
-1	If you are fine driving a used car you should be fine with having a relationship who is settling with you Yes, and you can only get a car that performs its functions if you can actually acquire the car. A man with a small budget is not gonna leave the dealership with a Porsche 911. A lot of men do not have 100% of the woman’s (that they are pursuing) attraction or interest, so she’s not gonna perform.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 08:21 PM
-2	If you are fine driving a used car you should be fine with having a relationship who is settling with you It doesn’t matter if they sit on the lot. The dealership isn’t gonna give them away for free. Thats also unfair to everyone else who had to pay for a car. Those men can use uber, public transport or walk. No, those are 2024 Honda Accords wanting a 2024 Honda Accord price. I believe it’s $27k. A dealership isn’t gonna reduce it by 75% or give it to you for free just because its not your “dream car” or because you’re “settling for it” Most people are not in their dream house, that doesn’t mean ren…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 02:11 PM
-1	If you are fine driving a used car you should be fine with having a relationship who is settling with you They are always comparing women to cars. But they can’t afford the new, luxury ones even though they think that is what they deserve. If they went to a dealership trying to get an average car for free cause it’s their perceived “looksmatch”, or cause they’re “settling” for it, they would get laughed out of the dealership. You have to pay a price no matter what car you get. If not, you would have to be car less. It also doesn’t make sense to treat your Honda accord poorly, just because you want a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 01:29 PM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD They compare themselves financially. Thats why men get upset if a girl dates an older man and calls her a gold digger. In ANY room, a young girl is gonna stick out to men of ALL ages. Not the women that are our mom’s age. They’re the ones who actually can’t compete in the “dating market”. Middle aged and older women make up the majority. Which will leave a lot of men competing for the % of women that are in their twenties. Most men preferring that girl by default, will never make that girl “aver…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 01:14 PM
2	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD But this is how men expect women to rate and categorize them though. How is every man who’s not overweight/has a job automatically a chad? But the same wouldn’t make a girl a Stacy?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 08:41 AM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Yeah basically actions > words. It’s cheap and easy for a man to give a girl a follow on social media.. how on earth can that be Stacy treatment?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 02:49 AM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD She can easily get into a low quality relationship. Thats not Stacy treatment. She won’t be able to get a man that can actually treat her well or provide.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 02:25 AM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD No they don’t lol. Mid women are the ones going 50/50 in relationships. You can tell by what men give them. They’re not the ones getting spoiled. If they’re “mid” they have to be seen as “mid” by every man… if a generous man thinks she’s cute then YES she can get that treatment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 02:25 AM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Real Stacy treatment is getting a monthly 5 figure allowance. Why do you guys equate free dinners and followers to “Stacy treatment”?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 02:19 AM
0	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD More logical than the women who prefer cuter, unemployed, carless men	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/24 08:39 PM
-1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD So are you saying that hypergamous women are more logical?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/24 08:13 PM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Yes they do. What do you think a dad bod/big boy is?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/24 10:04 AM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD A 1 ft 5 balding man is not the equivalent of a girl who is bigger than a size 2. Sex and hookups are more common than marriages. How can men not be able to get laid for free when hook up apps exist? And yeah, men pay for stacies. I’m saying there’s plenty of free sex available if these men were willing to smash size 4s.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/24 09:21 AM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Which means they can just use tinder and hinge	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/24 06:11 AM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD If it was actually relatively low.. then none of the things you listed would even matter. Most girls don’t have standards and will sleep with men easily (the ones who use the hook up apps). If a man has no options he needs to go for women that also have no options.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/24 05:55 AM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD I brought up looks because that’s the only reason why those guys have trouble getting laid. The women they want, they will most likely have to pay. Imagine if a girl was like “I’m only willing to sleep with 6’5, blue eyes, trust fund” guys.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/24 05:38 AM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD A lot of those “hopeless romantic” types still want a specific type of woman which is why they pay to play. If they were actually romantic they would be okay with finding love with women that are bigger than a size 2.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/24 05:34 AM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD The women in this forum made me realize that the average woman is very low maintenance and has low standards. Now only do women want fat men, but they’re okay with him never taking them out on dates either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/24 05:33 AM
-2	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Well a lot of men can get free sex if they were willing to shoot in their league. Do you have any idea how many bald, overweight men come to Vegas and feel entitled to the model bottle girls here? If they think every chick bigger than a size 2 is a “land whale” then yes they will probably have to pay to play for the girls they want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/24 05:29 AM
1	Q4A: at what point does paying become prostitution? I don’t think so cause most guys are also looking for hookups.. It’s way cheaper to get sex by buying a girl a plate of food instead of hiring an actual pro.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/24 08:01 PM
7	Q4A: at what point does paying become prostitution? Go on the sites that escorts advertise on. They get paid x for x amount of hours. They offer social dates, which don’t involve sex but you still pay for her being your arm candy and time. Nowhere on these sites will you see a woman offering herself up for food. Or asking for “payment” at the end. If you don’t pay up at the beginning, they will leave. If you approach a girl working the streets in Vegas or Colombia- nobody is doing it for food or gift cards at a restaurant. Having sex for food is …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/24 05:46 PM
-3	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Nah. Men always admit they only use coffee dates for women they find unattractive. They’ll be like “she’s not worth more than $10.” I have heard taken men talk about their girlfriends being “low cost” and how attractive and in shape women require too much. I have worked at high end restaurants before and if you feel uncomfortable, you can tell someone and they will escort you out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/24 03:57 PM
1	The real pill that explains modern dating in the West Men will admit this to a female friend or openly talk about it with other men. It’s actually women who will delude themselves into thinking a man likes her more if he never takes her out, and does less compared to other relationships. It’s why some women shit on spoiled girlfriends and will brag about how they’re so low maintenance and easy to impress and date	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/24 07:32 AM
1	The real pill that explains modern dating in the West Yeah I’m sure some guys will say that they’re saving for a car or house. But usually that’s an excuse, they just don’t want to be straight up and tell that woman to her face that he’s just settling for her from a lack of options. They know that telling her “you are not worth a $20 meal” will ruin his chances of securing guaranteed, easy, cheap companionship. Most men are not willing to be completely sexless for years until they are able to attract the women they deem “worthy” of providing or spo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/24 11:13 PM
4	The real pill that explains modern dating in the West Well most men who go 50/50 with their current gf, would probably provide more for another girl if that girl gave him a chance. I know a guy who would charge his gf gas money if he picked her up or had to drive to her house to hang out with her. But he bought my friend a Louis Vuitton wallet for her bday. My friend is fit with breast implants, while his gf would be considered a mid land whale by the men in this forum.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/24 10:59 PM
1	The real pill that explains modern dating in the West Yes cause 1/3 of “taken” girls get treated like that lol. Thats why they’re always hating on spoiled women, sugar babes, stay at home moms/housewives. They don’t get any dates, nice gestures or any type of energy/financial investment from their boyfriends or husbands. In my opinion, those men dislike their gf and are only with her cause he doesn’t have any other options. If he made a profile on a dating app, he wouldn’t be able to match with the women he’s actually attracted to (when you conside…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/24 10:48 PM
1	The real pill that explains modern dating in the West I know for a fact that at least 1/3 of men don’t like their gfs. And this is going off of their actions, not words. Thats why some girls get nothing in their relationships. He needs to make sure the financial/energy investment is low, cause he is only settling for her cause she gives him what he wants easily and cheaply. Thats why some taken men spend hundreds or thousands a month on 0f/sugar babes/tinder premium, but close to nothing on his actual gf. It’s also why some girls will be like “why …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/24 10:40 PM
1	The real pill that explains modern dating in the West Because men constantly admit that they only go 50/50 with girls they don’t find attractive. A lot of women don’t mind being settled for out of desperation/lack of options though, it’s just that those aren’t the same girls being picked by those men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/24 10:33 PM
–	The fear of being used for sex is really about insecurity and validation. Men have admitted to me that they manipulate women for free sex, (and get into relationships with them for free, guaranteed sex) cause it’s way cheaper than hiring a pro or sugar baby.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/24 10:25 PM
0	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Are you unaware of tinder/hookup culture?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 11:26 AM
-2	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Nope, if anything I think women are the “bad” ones for collectively having such low standards. Imagine if they were as picky as OP	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 10:15 AM
-2	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Any guy can have a fwb OR gf as long as he shoots in his league. You must not be aware of tinder where women will hook up with randoms for free/no reason. Imagine if a girl said “I only find 2 out of 205 men attractive”	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 10:12 AM
-1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD If anything, this proves that men only go for the top 2-5% of girls they are surrounded with. Which is why you guys project that onto women by saying they want the top % of men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 09:08 AM
3	The most recent season of “The Bachelorette” is a perfect example of why “women should just pick better men” is terrible advice If he’s an 8, then that would mean 90% of men are 8s. So over half of the male population is a chad or chad lite now?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 04:36 AM
1	The most recent season of “The Bachelorette” is a perfect example of why “women should just pick better men” is terrible advice That’s exactly what they’re trying to convince women to do. They always say to choose a man who has 0 options. Because “a man is only as loyal as his options” imo women should be evening out the playing field if that’s the case but the average woman is always scared of exercising her options (from what I have noticed)	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 04:35 AM
1	Every woman is a gold digger… Yes. Thats also how I know for a fact that fat, unattractive men can date fit, pretty women… cause I see it in sugar dating all the time. That happens because those men offer mentorship and financial stability. That’s also popular with “hypergamous” women as well. And that’s also how I am aware that the vast majority of women don’t care about a man’s income at all… however they care about looks/height/charisma. If a man is average in those areas then shouldn’t he be going for average women? (Tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 05:55 PM
2	Every woman is a gold digger… They have the same “sexual market value” don’t they? I always see men on here bring up that term. They also talk about how the opposite gender determines your desirability, it’s not decided by your own gender because you are not going to date your own gender. If an average man can not attract “average” women whatsoever then he would be the common denominator. There is no proof that the opposite gender deems him as “average”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 05:47 PM
1	Every woman is a gold digger… Well is there any proof that those men also aren’t below average? They both have this in common- they both lack options and can’t do better than each other. What makes him better than her?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 05:37 PM
1	Every woman is a gold digger… There are women who have no options so they can not afford to be picky about income, looks or height. If they were, they would never be able to go on a date or even lose their vCard. If average men want to overlook them then yes dating will be harder for those men. If I was an average man, why would I purposely shoot my shot with women who would be underwhelmed/unsatisfied with me? The women who have options, can afford to be pickier.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 05:06 PM
1	Every woman is a gold digger… I have seen plenty of fit, young women holding hands with fat men on rodeo drive. Those men are bringing something else to the table though.. which is basically what OP is complaining about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 04:31 PM
3	Every woman is a gold digger… If they are fit,average men then they can get a fit, average woman. Especially if he is willing to overlook her past (hooking up with multiple chads). However if you are in America, the average woman is NOT fit. She is usually overweight. I doubt Chads are sleeping with overweight women when they have an abundance of Stacies available to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 04:21 PM
–	Every woman is a gold digger… A “looksmatch” has to be mutually reciprocated… if not then how would this hypothetical couple have sex? Yeah then you shouldn’t go for women that can get pumped and dumped by chads. These men need to go for the type of women that even Chad would refuse to get with. Thats actually more realistic of a “looksmatch”, cause the women who can sleep with Chad will compare average men to Chad (comparing their money, height, skills in bed etc). Or these average men can go get pumped and dumped by Stacy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 04:12 PM
–	Every woman is a gold digger… A lot of men purposely go for girls that are not attracted to him. How is that a looks match unless he will be okay with a sexless, passionless relationship? If a man has less options, he needs to go for a woman who has as little options as him. That way, they are each other’s best realistic option. For example, some women can not attract men that make over 50k a year.. if I was a man making 45-50k, I would go for that woman because she will be more than satisfied with what I have to offer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 04:07 PM
–	Every woman is a gold digger… It’s funny how men don’t understand this. They will go on and on about how they deserve young, beautiful, in shape women. And turn their noses up at unattractive, overweight women. Yet they can’t connect the dots that the male equivalent of a young, pretty, in shape woman is a tall, handsome, rich man. Some men lack finances, height and a nice jaw.. and they still refuse to go for women in their “league”. They basically want the same women, that rich men, handsome men, and athletes go for. They …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 03:36 PM
–	Every woman is a gold digger… He doesn’t want those those of women. It’s very clear that when men complain about gold diggers.. they are specifically trying to pursue those high maintenance girls that invest thousands into their physique and face every year. The same guys who complain about gold diggers will call a size 4 girl a land whale	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 12:50 PM
1	Every woman is a gold digger… But these men don’t want normal women either. Normal women don’t have as many options, and usually don’t have financial standards. He wants a fit, pretty young chick. The average woman is none of those, yet he’s not okay with that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 03:29 AM
9	Every woman is a gold digger… This is how I think it works, as a woman. There are plenty of women that can’t bring looks, physique or sex (lower libido, less eager to please) to the table. They have less options, so they don’t have the leverage to expect a certain income, height or anything.. they will have to take what they can get. The women who bring looks (facially) and physique (remember, the average American woman is overweight) knows she is in the minority, and that she can be pickier when it comes to a man’s income, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 03:27 AM
3	Being a woman in your late thirties or forties is not the handicap it used to be. I’ve noticed they’re dating more and more young attractive men Yup. The men on here always say stuff like “chads have to go for 2-3s cause they’re easy”, but real chads can get stacies easily. These men will call any man a chad tbh	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 02:09 PM
1	Being a woman in your late thirties or forties is not the handicap it used to be. I’ve noticed they’re dating more and more young attractive men Yes they chose that because they are easily influenced by what society tells them to do. Go ask women “would you date an older man who makes less money than you?” I guarantee you that most of the responses will be women saying things like “yes. His job should not matter. And you shouldn’t care whether a man is employed or not anyways. That’s very shallow” “yup! I’m not a lazy entitled gold digger so I prefer to be the breadwinner” “you are delusional if you are expecting a 40 year old man to hav…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 01:10 PM
–	Being a woman in your late thirties or forties is not the handicap it used to be. I’ve noticed they’re dating more and more young attractive men Yes they are lol. They chose to have kids with financially unstable men in their youth, which is why they get mad when they see a younger woman choose better. And sure, cause being ran through in your twenties and getting turned into a single mom by an unemployed man is more of a flex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 12:14 PM
-2	Being a woman in your late thirties or forties is not the handicap it used to be. I’ve noticed they’re dating more and more young attractive men There’s two different types of older women. Women who chose better in their youth cause they didn’t let society manipulate them into picking their worst option (usually unemployed men, or getting pregnant and having kids out of wedlock by the most financially unstable man they know). And then the women who spent 18-35 yo picking losers, cause society will call them a gold digger if they said they preferred an employed man who has his own car. They think being called a word is so bad, that they w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 12:12 PM
1	Being a woman in your late thirties or forties is not the handicap it used to be. I’ve noticed they’re dating more and more young attractive men This is cap. If he’s a real chad, stacies will always be reliable for him	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 12:08 PM
-4	Being a woman in your late thirties or forties is not the handicap it used to be. I’ve noticed they’re dating more and more young attractive men You can say it’s gross but it happens so much more than you think. And a lot of men don’t have the leverage to tell their gf/wife that they can’t sugar date, when he can not provide for her. Women are encouraged to go for men who don’t have a job, car etc cause she is supposed to build him up. The equivalent is a man having options between a childless attractive woman, or a toxic, unattractive, overweight woman. Which one would he choose? A lot of women think that the less a man will do for you,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 12:07 PM
5	Being a woman in your late thirties or forties is not the handicap it used to be. I’ve noticed they’re dating more and more young attractive men I thought you guys said that chads never settle down due to having an endless supply of stacies pining over them?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 11:15 AM
-1	Being a woman in your late thirties or forties is not the handicap it used to be. I’ve noticed they’re dating more and more young attractive men I think it’s because women are always encouraged to go for young, broke men. Some of these older women fell into the trap, it’s glorified to have low standards and to be the “girl who builds him up”. Therefore when these women get older, they feel bitter and jaded that picking young, unemployed men got them nowhere. It’s happening now, where Gen z girls are pressured into picking men who can’t even afford to take them out to chilis. Thankfully, I live in a city where sugaring is very popular so …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 11:08 AM
3	women have an aundance of BOTH casual and romantic options How’s that hard to believe? They’re a top man for a reason.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 10:17 AM
-2	women have an aundance of BOTH casual and romantic options Men do the 99% of the approaching/initiating. If men actually went for women in their own league, they would have an abundance of options as well. And by league, I mean women who are willing to reciprocate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 10:08 AM
3	women have an aundance of BOTH casual and romantic options Men are the same way	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 06:00 AM
-1	Men, what negative dating/relationship experiences have you personally had with women? Yes but the hott 20% is different for each woman. Some women find short men hott, others prefer tall. Some women think overweight men are hott, others might prefer lanky or buff. If a woman finds short men 5’3 hott, she will think taller men are the bottom 80% Men’s beauty standards of women is very strict. That’s why models and actresses get certain procedures and almost all go for the same aesthetic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 12:27 AM
-1	Men, what negative dating/relationship experiences have you personally had with women? This is false because men aren’t held to that much physical standards by women.. so this means 9 out of 10 men can be hott (to women). Whereas women are held to a high beauty standard, if she doesn’t look like Kim k or Kylie Jenner then she is not gonna be considered “hott” by men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 12:22 AM
0	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Yeah, but they want something from that woman whether it’s companionship or intimacy. Should she do it for nothing in return? Cause you guys usually call those girls cheap and ran thru since anyone can easily access her by just asking. There are a ton of women who have a job, where they have sugar/splenda dads, and they still only want to date provider men their age.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/24 04:37 PM
0	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD What city are you in? Cause in mine, it’s well known an attractive younger woman won’t deal with you unless you’re spending or taking her to nice places.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/24 04:30 PM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD It’s not about simping. Some men just like their woman enough, some men even spoil 2-4 girls they like. The better question is why do men date women they don’t want to spoil?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/24 04:28 PM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Why is she begging for a relationship if he already put her in the Fwb zone?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/24 04:25 PM
0	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Just women. Men are always encouraged to sleep around	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/24 03:51 PM
2	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD In his other comments he’s talking about love, but then admits that he’s using this 18yo as a fwb… it’s crazy cause other other 18 yo would be getting sugar from a 27 yo man, not begging for a relationship after midnight	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/24 03:49 PM
3	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD He can’t bag a 18 yo who has better options.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/24 03:47 PM
4	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD They’re talking about the 54-80 yo men who want 18-24 yo gfs	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/24 03:26 PM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD It’s sugar arrangements. Sugar daddy/baby relationships	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/24 04:55 PM
8	Do women judge other women who cheat? One thing I noticed is when a woman cheats on a man, the man isn’t mad at the man and only blames his gf. But women always blame the other woman lol. Usually, if you tell a woman she is being cheated on, she just gets mad at who told her and stays with her man anyways. There’s a group “are we dating the same guy?” in my city. And whenever a girl posts her husband/bf.. other women will come forward and the girl who made the post will end up fighting with the girls who came forward instead of just…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/24 12:17 PM
3	Do women judge other women who cheat? Men do the same thing by saying stuff like “a man is only as faithful as his options” “if you don’t want a man that cheats on you then make sure you get with one who has no other options”. Would this logic apply to women as well?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/24 12:12 PM
2	Do women judge other women who cheat? Hmm. Men always say “a man is only as faithful as his options” or “if you don’t want to get cheated on, stop dating chads and go for men in your league” so would this apply to women as well?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/24 12:11 PM
0	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. Over half of marriages end in divorce, so no I don’t think most men have “better” judgment. And those men can’t be that dumb if they make enough money to date and marry high maintenance women. Those men have options. There are plenty of low maintenance women they could have chose from… and yet they still didn’t. I also know low maintenance women who are the opposite of a “ho”, and yet they still aren’t wifed. How would you explain that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/24 05:40 AM
1	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. I know sugar babes, strippers, onlyfans girls and escorts that have gotten married. If anything, “high maintenance” (any career) women get married way more than low maintenance women. Low maintenance women don’t put effort into their appearance or physique. Those are the ones that average men call “mid” and “land whales” so I doubt any man with money is gonna marry them. Those are the women who are more than happy with a walk in the park or a coffee date, yet men ignore them to focus on the smal…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/24 05:11 AM
1	Outside of sex work your "league" is what you can get. Yes, but most men can’t get into relationships with their “looksmatch” either because she will not even match with him in the first place. Average men who get 1-2 matches a month, are not in the same league as the IG models they feel entitled to. They technically also wouldn’t be in the league of “normal women” who do not feel attracted to him enough to get intimate. Unless he is okay with a sexless relationship/marriage. If sex is supposed to be no big deal, is it okay if a woman dates a man in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/24 05:07 AM
2	Outside of sex work your "league" is what you can get. That’s the point. Majority of women don’t find 80% of men attractive. Yet the majority of men think they are in the top 20%. How is that not delusional on the man’s end? If you guys are aware that the majority of women only find a small % of men attractive, then why do average men get surprised when they do bad at online dating apps AND cold approaching in real life? I have seen tinder/bumblr/hinge from a guys account before. I have even made a fake account myself where I lie about being 6’2 and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/24 04:25 AM
0	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD For every hypergamous woman, there are 50 other women willing to build a broke man up from the ground, going 50/50 and being a placeholder for 5+ years. For every chick that wants a fancy dinner date on the first date, there are 50 more who will smash a man on the first meet in a parked car in the park after getting a coffee or ice cream. Why do men focus on the small % of women instead of the average woman?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/24 05:02 PM
2	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Facts. Men never want their true looksmatch. Which is why I think women should match their energy, and be as shallow and hypergamous. Yet women always hype up dad bods and unemployed men .. would a man ever hype up overweight, unattractive women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/24 04:59 PM
2	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD That they shouldn’t go 50/50. Men usually only do that for placeholders.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/24 04:50 PM
2	Outside of sex work your "league" is what you can get. Flings with hot guys is something that’s actually happening to her in real life. That experience, is gonna cause her to compare him to other men. If he is attractive, good in bed, and also gives her interesting or fun experiences (for 6-12 months), she will naturally feel underwhelmed by the average man who can’t provide those things. Which leads to a lack of passion and a sexless relationship. Fantasizing over IG models is not real life, cause these men can’t have a fling with her at all. They …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/24 04:28 PM
1	Outside of sex work your "league" is what you can get. Men can’t get stuck on the “highest” setting because they can not meet, sleep or date those girls. I have seen dating apps through a mans account, and I have male friends who go to social events where they are constantly ignored or the girls will leave him once they drink up the bottle or once they get their drinks. Those women are not in their league, if they think he was so hott.. they would not be just using him for alcohol or free food. Yet these men will still think those women are in their…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/24 04:11 PM
2	Outside of sex work your "league" is what you can get. How can those men get into a long term relationship with women they can not even sleep with or match with? A relationship can’t start without a date, and most men can not get a date with the women you guys perceive to be in your “league” The average men would think the same, if they were capable of dating and smashing the most attractive women SHORT TERM. They already think like that, with women they can’t even meet. How do you not realize that women can find a 6’0 hot man for a FWB situation ea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/24 04:04 PM
2	Outside of sex work your "league" is what you can get. Well, if men can decide a supermodel is in his league by following them on instagram.. then yes the same logic should apply with the books. But a lot of women can actually date and smash some of these men short term. You guys will say “he’s not in her league cause he didn’t marry her” What if this same woman agreed to be in a long term relationship with you, as long as there’s no sex.. cause she is not attracted to you. What if she’s only with you cause you are the long term, safe, boring option…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/24 02:51 PM
2	Outside of sex work your "league" is what you can get. So then why do men get to decide they are in leagues with women they can’t match with, sleep with or date for 6 months? How is he gonna be in a LONG term relationship with them? Most of the posts of men complaining about leagues, are usually complaining about not getting a match, or a second date with someone who’s “their league” A woman smashing a top 5% man for 6 months is gonna change her expectations. This is why some women are just naturally underwhelmed by the men you guys claim are in her…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/24 02:38 PM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD So? Why would that mean anything when average men were saying Margot Robbie is a 4?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/24 05:01 AM
3	Outside of sex work your "league" is what you can get. I know. Somehow if a girl dates a multi millionaire for 6 months, they think that it shouldn’t affect her expectations and standards cause “well he didn’t marry you so that’s not your league” But they can’t even get a one night stand or 6 months with a supermodel AND average girl they think they are “looksmatched” with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/24 03:57 AM
3	Outside of sex work your "league" is what you can get. Okay but can men get relationships with women who won’t even sleep with them? Or match with them? Why are you guys in the same league with girls you can’t even get whatsoever? But her real life experience of smashing a man short term doesn’t count? Somehow a man can decide he’s in the same league as a model he’s never gonna meet, sleep with, or date long term. But a woman’s league can’t be someone she was with for 6-9 months? 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/24 03:54 AM
2	Outside of sex work your "league" is what you can get. How is this any different from men thirst following IG models and deciding that’s his league? They don’t know each other, and won’t ever hook up. So you can’t even say it’s about long term relationships. He can’t even meet her lol. The difference is women are actually smashing these men in real life. They’re not just following them on social media, fantasizing over them and deciding that it’s their league.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/24 03:46 AM
2	Outside of sex work your "league" is what you can get. This is not any different from mens egos being inflated by women that they follow on IG. They don’t even know them, yet somehow she is in their league because he followed them	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/24 03:42 AM
3	Outside of sex work your "league" is what you can get. It goes for men too, for the people who keep bringing up the women who can pull a top % man short term, but not long term. How can someone be in your league if you guys can’t match with them OR get them long term? I’ve seen so many men think Addison Rae is their league. She doesn’t even know them. Yet a woman has to keep a man for 20 years for it to be her league? 😂 Men can’t even match with their perceived looksmatch on tinder and somehow that’s still “in his league” just because he says so.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/24 03:41 AM
–	Why women reject most men and how men can empathize with them Then those men that are seeking a 50/50 relationship should seek out those women instead of trying to shame other women who don’t want it. I know women, who have degrees and are working as a nurse practitioner or accountant. Their boyfriend still pays for their bills. So her credit score and everything will be fine. They are basically getting to save and invest the MAJORITY of their income. I also know women who don’t have any degrees, and they still don’t want to be in an exclusive relationship…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/24 12:53 AM
0	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Yes, just like how men with little to no options (for casual sex AND relationships) can call themselves a 8-10 and claim that its a fact	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 06:49 PM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD If they actually wanted relationships that bad- why wouldn’t they just drop all their standards (looks/height/financial) to be in one? There are plenty of women who have 0 standards, because they just want ANY man. Actions speak louder than words. They can say they want a relationship, however their best option right now is to be friends with benefits with Chad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 06:27 PM
0	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Mid men do think Stacy is in their league.. the difference is he wont be able to even have a one night stand with her. She might not even match with him, or reply to his dm on IG. Yet this doesn’t stop him from believing that she is his looksmatch. At least those women are actually seeing Chad in real life. Meanwhile men will see Stacy online, and just assume she wants them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 06:22 PM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD If the female equivalent of Chad, Stacy.. was willing to have one night stands with average Adam. Adam would 100% take the chance. There are plenty of women who smash and share Chads, but they aren’t complaining. The women who do complain take hookup culture too seriously, and are most likely letting anyone run through them.. including Adams AND chads.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 06:20 PM
0	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Casual sex happens when two parties mutually consent. If Chad says yes, and a girl says yes (she can be a 2 or 10) then the sex can happen. Why does this concern men so much? It doesn’t mean she thinks she’s in his league, it means she can go smash him now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 06:11 PM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Above average men have tons of options. They know they’re above average.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 05:16 PM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Then why do men complain about how dating apps are unfair to them? They only do this because the women they “perceive” as their looksmatch, doesn’t end up matching with them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 05:15 PM
0	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD These men will be the same men who DM IG models. Then when she doesn’t reply or notice, he will say something like “these girls egos are so inflated that they think they can ignore their looksmatch”	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 05:12 PM
2	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD But men believe they’re in the same league as women they can’t even match with or talk to. At least the 6/7s get to smash Chad. Men will thirst follow Addison Rae and now somehow she is in his league, even though she doesn’t follow back or know he exists.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 05:09 PM
3	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Okay so if a man gets less matches than a grandma, and can’t pull women he cold approaches in public.. why does he get to decide that he’s an objective 8? The equivalent would be a girl with no matches, no dates, no attention who calls herself a 8	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 05:08 PM
4	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD If that’s the case then how is every man a 8-10? Men always mention that study but won’t tell women who the 80% are. Is it possible that the “unattractive 80%” are the men who get little matches, little attention, and have less options than other men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 05:06 PM
2	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD How? How can a man dictate that he is an 8? When nothing about his real life experience backs that up? With that logic, an unattractive overweight chick can just declare she’s an 8 for no reason as well then?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 05:03 PM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Men are hypocrites when it comes to “leagues”. Somehow a man can get little to no matches on apps. Gets ignored in real life, has never gotten casual sex OR a relationship with a woman who’s attractive and fit. And somehow he will still call himself an 8, with nothing to back it up. He will think it’s an objective fact. Meanwhile if a woman has tons of matches, has sugar dads, attractive or successful/tall ex boyfriends, has tons of followers on tiktok, experiences pretty privilege etc, she stil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 04:18 PM
1	Older men have no incentive to improve themselves for older women who are "tired of their bullshit".. This is not true because I live in a city where a lot of women have dabbled in sugaring, onlyfans, dancing, escorting etc and most of them have a boyfriend or still ended up getting married. The married ones don’t necessarily leave their husband, they just sugar, dance, can, or escort on the side.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 01:43 PM
-1	Older men have no incentive to improve themselves for older women who are "tired of their bullshit".. Well I have heard older women say that they regret not not sugar dating when they were younger. They are mad that they did the “pick me” thing by dating a broke man their age and going 50/50. I find it funny how guys in their 20s talk so much crap about sugar babies, even though they secretly want to be a sugar daddy in the future. If a girl in her 20s decides to date men her age instead of sugar dating, then that’s on her. But most of the girls I know who chose that route ended up dogged out an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 12:54 PM
1	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. So your logic is a man doesn’t have to buy a woman a meal to show her he likes her, but somehow a girl buying you a meal means she likes you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 07:35 AM
1	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. Show me proof that the average “normal” woman has any standards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 07:34 AM
1	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. The same can be said about the man not liking her that much if he wouldn’t put in more effort to take her to a nice dinner.. I have seen men go 50/50 with one girlfriend, and then spoil and pamper the next one. I don’t blame women for not wanting a low effort date, because it’s a measure of how interested the man is. And it sets the tone for the rest of the relationship. Some women are into low effort relationships, some aren’t.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 07:31 AM
1	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. Those are divorced women. I said single mothers, meaning they were NEVER married in the first place. Either way there are plenty of women who have no standards, and that’s a win for men. Yet you guys just focus on the small % who have a financial or heights/looks preference.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 07:23 AM
1	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. Exactly, and you know what else is a small % of the female population? Girls who have a financial or looks standard Most women accept low effort dates, and low effort relationships in general. They need to prove that they are independent and don’t need a man for anything. Why do you think the single motherhood rate is so high? They don’t even care if a man has the funds to contribute to their new family, because these women weren’t gonna ask for the contribution in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 07:13 AM
1	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. The evidence is this post, and all the other similar posts where men complain about “hypergamous” women. They’re only complaining about them cause those are the women they go for. If these guys went for the girls that preferred low effort dates, 50/50 relationships, unattractive/average men etc then they wouldn’t even be running into the “hypergamous” women	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 07:09 AM
1	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. Yes they have husbands because there was a man willing to marry them. Meanwhile there are a ton of low maintenance girls who are still single, despite them being open to dating ANY man as long as he has a pulse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 07:07 AM
1	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. No, they have no standards in general. Meaning they are willing to go on ice cream dates with unattractive men. Men rather overlook those girls and focus on the small % of women who do care about nice first dates, money, height, looks etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 07:06 AM
1	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. And I already said in a previous comment that most women have no standards, whether it’s financial or looks. So it seems like you guys are focusing on the “gold diggers” and “hookers” yall claim to not approach.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 07:03 AM
1	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. I can definitely tell the difference lol you realize most dancers, sugar babes and bottle girls still have boyfriends or husbands right? 😂 Okay then if all normal women are so easy and cheap to date, then why are men complaining about them being “gold diggers” or having high standards?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 07:02 AM
1	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. You’re right. Normal women cost $0 to date and sleep with. Therefore no man here should have any problems. I wonder why he would make a post about “low effort dates” when apparently all normal women will drop their panties for ANY man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 06:58 AM
4	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. Just so you know, there’s plenty of women in Vegas who will hook up with anyone for free. Any man who’s having trouble getting laid here is only having trouble cause they are focusing on the women they can not get. A good example is the men in vegas who purposely approach dancers and bottle girls… just to be surprised they only want to deal with men who fit their financial standards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 04:48 AM
5	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. Nope, it’s obvious you guys are because there are plenty of women who will smash and date any man. They are happy with low effort dates. They are happy with unemployed men. They are happy with short men etc. So why are you guys always on here talking about hypergamy or entitled women? You guys only focus on the women who have standards (whether it’s financial, appearance, date effort or height)	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 04:47 AM
0	Why women reject most men and how men can empathize with them The low maintenance ones literally like any man who give them an ounce of attention 😂it’s just that the majority of men care about looks.. and high maintenance women usually look better cause they work out, do their makeup/skincare/hair while low maintenance women do none of those	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 04:23 AM
5	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. Yes but there’s also plenty of low maintenance women that men can choose from… so why are you guys ignoring them and focusing on the high maintenance women instead?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 04:21 AM
0	Why women reject most men and how men can empathize with them It depends. Some women have these standards. Some women don’t have standards at all. But men are the ones who ignore the latter, pursue the former and then complain. Wouldn’t this mean all men are shallow?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 03:38 AM
1	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. Some women are high maintenance, and you can tell by their appearance or lifestyle. Men will see a woman posting herself on yachts and have 10k-100k followers.. and still assume she wants to go get a coffee with him. These men don’t even consider that there is a possibility that they could be ignored or rejected. They just assume that every woman will clear her schedule, cancel her other plans or dates to go on a low effort date with him, as if he’s the only man that will ever give her this oppo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 03:35 AM
2	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. Ok what % of men are hott with rizz? Not even sure why that matters when you implied that most women have no standards.. meaning any man with a pulse will do. OP should do fine.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 02:38 AM
1	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. Plenty of women want both. There are women who have both, and their boyfriend/husband just has no clues Either way if that’s the case then why do men complain about womens standards being too high? You’re making them sound easy and cheap af to access. Considering the fact that most women don’t care about looks at all, anything can be considered “a cute guy”. Which means any man should have success in getting laid and dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 02:21 AM
2	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. You basically did. All it takes is a couple drinks to smash them? This means OP can have any girl he wants, as long as he can buy them a drink.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 01:59 AM
1	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. Why would him being ugly matter if you are claiming that most women are easy and have no standards? Whenever he lives, I guarantee there are women there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 01:39 AM
2	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. So then why is OP complaining? If women were that easy to get, why do men complain about getting little to no matches/dates/sex?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 01:37 AM
2	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. You were bashing sex workers but now are bragging about women that will smash for a couple drinks? 😂😂 hey if it’s really that easy, no man should ever be complaining	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 01:34 AM
3	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. Look, if what you say is true that most women have low expectations.. then OP shouldn’t have a problem bagging multiple supermodels off of coffee	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 01:32 AM
1	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. Not sure what this means but it’s usually Eastern European girls in the US who have the highest self worth and esteem	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 01:30 AM
3	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. Yes I do know about normal dating. You realize a lot of sex workers also have vanilla boyfriends right? 😂 the same goes with a lot of pornstars. A lot of bottle girls have a boyfriend or husband… AND sugar dads. Wouldn’t matter anyways cause I know girls who work as nurses or cashiers and they still seem to not prefer “low effort dates”	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 01:27 AM
1	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. They are matching with those women. A lot of dancers and bottle girls get asked out by men who make way less than them.. and on to coffee too. Single moms don’t have options, so I don’t really believe any man who says they are picky. They usually take anything they can get. Thats includes “low effort dates” like walks in the park, ice cream, coffee, burgers etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 01:25 AM
3	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. If they’re so impressed by it then why are men always complaining about how women don’t want “low effort dates”? And not every woman is meeting strangers off dating apps, OR relying on dating apps to get dates. So there are women that are okay with being with someone for 2-3 hours.. since they already know them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 01:23 AM
3	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. Yes they do lol that’s why men are always complaining about how women don’t want to go on coffee dates with them. You are describing women who don’t have any options, which is why they are so easily impressed by any date from ANY guy. If OP focused on those women, he wouldn’t have made this post. Instead he’s trying to go for the small % of women who want something better than a “low effort date”	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 01:22 AM
3	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. But most women also don’t want to go on a “low effort date”	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 01:21 AM
5	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. Yes but women that are lawyers and art students are also allowed to have standards. If they’re not impressed by a coffee date then why do they have to go on one? And plenty of men in their 20s and 30s can afford those nice dates too. If going on a nice date makes them a prostitute then what would it make the women who go on low effort dates instead?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 01:20 AM
6	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. If men can judge women off their appearance, then women are also gonna judge men from the effort they make for first dates. It’s fair.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 01:18 AM
3	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. Yeah but other men also have to find them hott and worthy of spoiling. The point is the women with higher expectations only have them because they have experienced it. Because OTHER men are willing to give it to them. ONE man’s subjective opinion on how “hott” she is wouldn’t matter if she has 10 other men willing to take her out on a proper date. If you guys want the girls who are impressed with a coffee, you should go for women who would never get approached by a “nice dinner for a first date”…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 01:17 AM
3	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. Yes they are lol I work in the nightlife industry, and know a lot of bottle girls. They are attractive, we have to audition to get any position in the club. They get approached by wealthy men all the time asking them to nobu, Delilah, Carbone etc. so why would they be impressed with a low effort date? (There are exceptions) Have you heard of the website called “what’s your price”? There are women who get paid to go on a first date, and it’s usually somewhere nice. No “mid” girl is gonna have the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 01:15 AM
4	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. Nope. I never see hott women accepting low effort dates unless the man is also very hott themselves. Hott women literally have sugar dads and successful, handsome men in their inbox, lol they’re not going out with average men to get ice cream.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 01:13 AM
5	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. I doubt it cause men are shallow, and wouldn’t ask out a chick he finds “ugly” on a public date in the first place. If anything, it’s a woman he perceives to be on his level. But she is not attracted to what he has to offer and is willing to pass a date up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 01:10 AM
7	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. Go look at the type of girls that are at Nobu and Delilah on a date on Friday night, and then go look at the girls that are at Dunkin’ Donuts on a date any afternoon. You’d quickly realize that men are setting themselves up for failure by approaching the women who are used to the nicer things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 01:09 AM
7	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. No it’s not lol. The women who usually demand “more” do that because they have more leverage. I have female friends who purposely post themselves in Bentleys and $50k club sections so they won’t get approached by a certain type of man.. and yet those men still approach them to ask for a coffee date. The women with more options, will have higher expectations cause they’re already used to attention and being spoiled. It’s the women who have no options, that will be happy with less. They can’t affo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 01:07 AM
2	Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves. It means you’re purposely going for women who have a higher standard or expectation for a “first date” There are plenty of women that are easily satisfied with anything, and will get with any man as long as he’s willing. Men should go for those types instead of focusing on the small % of women who want more than a walk in the park/ice cream.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 01:03 AM
0	Why women reject most men and how men can empathize with them Men want sex more than women (not all, but most). And a lot of women aren’t attracted to 50/50 financial relationships, the same way most men aren’t attracted to unattractive women or sexless relationships. Why are men allowed to have preferences but women aren’t? Women are the ones who actually have more leverage, so they’re acting on it. If they wanted sex as much as men did, they would drop the financial/height standards and would just be open to get with any man who’s willing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 12:54 AM
0	Why women reject most men and how men can empathize with them I would argue it’s actually men who think they’re 10s. The majority of them get little to no matches on apps, yet they still feel entitled to the most beautiful women. Despite them not having the chance to date or hook up with most average women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 12:52 AM
6	Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor. Are you purposely going for high maintenance women? Cause a lot of women who invest a lot into their appearance will do this. They know they have options, so they won’t settle for a 50/50 type of relationship. Why not just pursue women who are happy with nothing? There are plenty who are willing to do anything JUST to get a man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 12:42 AM
1	The dating market does not suck for women Men have more options to choose from because good women outnumber men, and attractive women outnumber attractive/rich men etc. let’s say men are attracted to cute girls who are fit, and let’s say women are attracted to tall, successful men.. this means the possible pool of options for women is gonna be SIGNIFICANTLY smaller. I am in a coffee shop right now. There are 10+ attractive, fit women here who look like they’re in their 20s. Whereas I have never seen 10+ attractive men in a regular place…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/24 06:38 PM
1	The dating market does not suck for women Well how’s this different from average and below average men going for women that are out of their league? Which is exactly why those women don’t swipe on them, or why they go on a date for free food and ghost them. If men really just went for women in their “league” (and what I mean by this is, she has no better option than him. Whether it’s options for hooking up or even texting) then she would be more than satisfied with everything he has to offer. If women can get easy sex, with “chads” then…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/24 06:33 PM