rosemary-n-lavender Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
153	The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a whole	CMV	rosemary-n-lavender	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 05:24 PM

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–	The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a whole I actually fully agree with you when it comes to situations where both partners are respectful and responsible. I think it might matter where you live. There are differences in how women and mothers are treated by country, state/province, religious circles, etc. Women can have their lives ruined by pregnancy, birth, and child rearing. It also differs. Does this woman have a good husband/partner? A circle of friends and family to talk to/lean on? Access to health services and resources? When the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/23 05:18 PM
2	The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a whole They are also dealing with inflation and a general level of pessimism about the future. (WW3 speculations, climate change, increased crime) Most developed countries dropped a few points because of Covid. And then there’s personal choice. When women can choose if/when to have children rather than being forced there will always be a decline. There will be differences in different countries. Lack of respect, care, and resources are why women who aren’t in Nordic counties who would otherwise want ch…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 10:08 PM
15	The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a whole I’m not demonizing it… Where in my post did I say being pregnant and birthing children was a bad thing? I said it’s not respected, not understood for the difficult undertaking it is (by men), and healthcare needs are not met. Where did I say raising children was a bad thing? I said it isn’t rewarding or worth it to many women when they realize they’ll essentially be a single parent despite being married. I said a lot is expected and goes unappreciated much of the time. That lack of appreciation …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 08:36 PM
20	The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a whole I think I did do this a disservice by not mentioning the huge financial and political issues. I agree that even people with a good spouse who would otherwise want children are choosing not to	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 07:41 PM
8	The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a whole I’m talking about rational thought leading to action. I’ve felt the hormonal pang but was very able to make a choice based off of life goals, desires, and circumstance and did not get pregnant. Many other women do the same. The hormonal push or “Baby rabies” is totally a thing. Women aren’t slave to it though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 07:33 PM
10	The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a whole For respect, depends where you live! Where I live blue collar men are very respected. You go to like Silicon Valley or New York and it’s a very different story. There are a lot of jobs in construction, not all of them dangerous. I know a lot of people who work in different parts of home building, commercial building, electrical, plumbing, and carpentry and the only one with permanent issues is the one who wouldn’t wear his safety harness. He’s mostly fine, does need a chiropractor every few week…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 07:23 PM
11	The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a whole I totally hear you. There is absolutely a time limit. Even if a 50 year old man can impregnate a woman, it’s far from ideal. A child is more likely to have health issues in their life due to decreased sperm quality and they likely won’t live to see their child grow up past their late 20s. The limit women have is more discussed and, with menopause around 50, is physically evident. Having a child at 35-40 is fine for most healthy women, but most people aren’t healthy as the years go on. The second…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 06:54 PM
3	The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a whole Thanks! Didn’t mean to use the wrong one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 06:24 PM
10	The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a whole A decently sized group of people (friends and family) who I help and who help me (when possible) without payment or keeping score. Childcare, dog sitting, bringing meals to one another when we need, even helping with things like dishes and laundry when it comes to domestic stuff, hosting holidays, fixing vehicles, lending vehicles for extended periods, home repairs, moving, cleaning and painting, whatever else. It may sound silly to mention, but a lot of people don’t have others to rely or call …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 06:24 PM
2	Does organised prostitution indeed prove that sexual intercourse is more important for gynophilic men than for androphilic women? High sex drive with high aversion to casual sex, right here!! I personally know a lot of women in that category. There are so many added risks for a woman that just don’t outweigh the benefits. Then you add in the fact that men are becoming more violent during sexual encounters and…What was the benefit again? https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/08/sexual-choking-is-now-so-common-that-many-young-people-dont-think-it-even-requires-consent-thats-a-problem https://www.elle.com.au/amp/…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 06:16 PM
8	The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a whole I can’t help it… “babysit? So those aren’t your kids then?” In a workplace it’s FAR more difficult though. Get labeled as difficult for pointing things like that out and it can really fuck with your professional life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 06:10 PM
19	The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a whole Most of this isn’t worth responding to, but I’d like to point out that the divorce rates are not separated by generation. Those numbers mean nothing in relation to what I said when laid out like that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 06:09 PM
17	The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a whole That’s just horrendous, I’m so so sorry they experienced that. It’s far harder to predict when the man claims he’ll be all in beforehand. Some women aren’t willing to gamble it at all, but women who do sometimes get screwed over like your friends did. I know a number of women who’s lives changed more than the mans, but he makes sure she has time for herself and makes sure he’s doing his best at home. Unfortunately I know a number of women who had the exact experience your friends had. I’m VERY g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 06:07 PM
13	The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a whole It is a bit different in the younger generations, for sure. However that’s kind of what I’m saying here. It’s not as common in the younger generations because women are being far more choosy when getting married and having children. Which is why a lot of men who want to live the same life their boomer/gen x Dad did are single and childless when they don’t want to be. The number of women willing to put up with that kind of a life is only declining more and more. It still happens, but most of the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 06:04 PM
46	The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a whole Agreed! Why would a person take part on something that lowers their perceived “value”? Why are we seeing people like that in the first place? Personally, I think all of this transactional stuff is really gross. I’m fully in the camp of “We need to fix the way people see, treat, and understand each other” rather than subscribing fully to the thought that a progressive or conservative stance can fix the way people interact. (Though, personally, I lean far more progressive) I don’t like transaction…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 05:55 PM
11	The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a whole Could you explain where you believe the data has been shown to be unclear? Everything I have seen has been very clear that there is a severe divide. Both in physical household duties and the mental load of running the household. There is a direct correlation between gender equality and birth rate. When women have more options and can demand better treatment/opt out, they often do. That being said, in the current state our world is in, the number of people in general wanting to have kids is absol…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 05:47 PM
14	The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a whole Not at all what I’m saying. I’m saying the decline in women being interested in marriage and children was manufactured, could have been avoided, and is fixable. I’m fine without kids, but if we wound up having them I’d be fine with that too. He’s great, I have a “village”, and nothing I said would be an issue in my life. I just have a lot of empathy for women who do not have that kind of situation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 05:43 PM
1	Many women want to be loved, but they don't want to love. You’re not entirely wrong, but you’re speaking about a VERY specific group of women. Dating apps have really warped the belief around what women want. If you’re using one of those, yeah, that’s likely exactly what you’re going to experience. Regular women with regular lives generally just want a life partner who listens to them and respects them. You should hear women GUSH about how amazing their husband is when all they’re actually saying is “he treats me like a human being and appreciates me”.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 05:39 PM