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High prenatal and pubertal androgen exposure, muscularity alongside low body fat, lean body, strength , wide clavicles, wide wrists, favorable shoulder to hip ratio, robust rib cage, forward grown maxilla, robust zygomatic bone, high zygomatic bone, vertically narrow orbital rim distance, high facial width to height ratio, hooded eyes, positive canthal tilt, slightly protruding browridge, angled forehead, long ramus, low gonial angle, overjet less than 3 mm, favorable cranium size, over 187 cm h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 01:48 AM
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jsanza xD
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 07:47 PM
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Its easier access to top males + societal tolerance of promiscuity + irrelevance of male provision. None were as high in your time as they are right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 10:13 PM
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Yeah its hard out here brother. The competition is just so intense. You just cant compete against these top guys who now have online dating to exert ever greater power over the market. A lot of days i feel like a inferior ape graciosuly being allowed to exist in some objectively better ape's territory, all the while powerless to change the underlying biology that dictates it all. The overwhelming majority of women dont even want to have a conversation with me, let alone something more. They are …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 09:11 PM
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Just shower bro
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 09:08 PM
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Pretty much , the only reason this isnt clear as day to everyone is beta bux
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 04:12 PM
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Nothing in that write-up is wrong tho
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 05:14 PM
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Spot on m8. In an ideal world theyd be out of the gene pool, but we are still a while from that reality imo. Women are still going to have kids with betas for the time being, but slowly society is swallowing the looks pill, the "blackpill" if you will. Accepting you arent chad in this only life you get is challenging to say the least lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 05:09 AM
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Just lift bro
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 12:41 PM
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The fuckboy is also relationship guy in her eyes lol, where is this idea coming from that women dont see fuckboys as potential bf's. They are at the top of the list for potential bf's, the problem is she is not at the top of their list. Its all looks in the end. If you have irresisitble sexual capital, then women will want your dick. If she thinks she can make you wait, well her loss and on to the next one. Players dont waste their time when the next girl is more than willing to bang and now is …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 08:26 PM
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Its the decline of the nuclear family , plain and simple. A father figure undenaibly makes for a better human, and a better human makes for a succesful society. Without the nuclear family, society begins to fall apart. In other words, the modernity of this society with our phones, airplanes, and economies is an impossibility for a predominantly single motherhood/non-nuclear family society. Kids need fathers, just look at the poorer areas and crime ridden areas and find the common denominator.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 05:44 PM
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Women can be single mothers all they want, i just dont want to pay for their kids, but you and i both know that would lead to a whole lot of starving kids
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 05:40 PM
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Thanks for the reply. This seems spot on in terms of the life of a very attractive guy. We had a guy like this in high school, just so much far and above the next best guy, and the stuff grown men struggle with and yearn for he was easily able to achieve since we were 15 or so. The only thing is though that he is probably so used to it at this point that it doesnt give him the same satisfaction as say an average guy being lusted after in a social setting would get. For an attractive guy, thats b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 01:25 PM
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Honestly you seem to be the biggest slayer so far, for some reason i just get that feeling haha. Thx for the reply brotha
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 03:23 AM
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Ive definitely experienced guys who captured the attention of nearly every woman in the area that noticed him. Of course they didnt all walk up to him, none did, but most were actively observing him to see if he would look at them, constantly looking over at him to see where his attention was. Its wild to witness, almost like i was in the presence of a human god lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 10:55 PM
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Haha probably, why would a girl not have sex with a hot guy if it was available, especially if all it meant was cheating on her stranger bf of a few months who she met on an app. Literally no reason not to get the hot guy on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 09:10 PM
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Idk why everyone in the comment section is overanalyzing it. The reason you have to looksmaxx and obsess about your smv is because the game is slowly losing its "rules". We're gravitating towards an "anything goes" approach, i.e. more primal sexual game. When anything goes, the comptetion gets fierce, and men have to work hard and be careful if they want to not get burned. The more primal the smp , the sharper you have to stay to even compete. The guys who either dont want to compete or know the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 09:01 PM
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Nope, im a 5 ft 10.5 inch guy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:16 PM
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In asia yeah, not in the west
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 05:50 PM
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So brave
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:00 PM
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The problem is now a days the world cup guys are hoarding all the opponents
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 08:34 PM
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Chad would need govt assistance aka beta money for this to work in a non primitive society, thats why it wouldnt work. Ultimately beta males contributing to the collective enables technological progression, which is the catch 22. Generally speaking, chad cant invent the steam engine, transistor, airplane by himself. This is why the current state of affairs is such a slap in the face for beta males. Everything we have achieved and how far we've come has been disparaged for hookup culture and the …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 02:42 PM
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So true lol, really just shows you all you need to know
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 07:51 PM
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I just see it as terms that conceptualize the biological hierarchy for men , namely the genetic/looks/physical dominance hierarchy that exists and imo is the base from which other ones start from. Other hierarchies exist of course like financial and academic/intelligence. But no one refers to autistic savants as "alphas", even though they are toward the top in their respective hierarchies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 07:48 PM
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Men compete aka kill each other or face off in other genetically oriented arenas, while women select the winners. This is because sperm is plentiful while an egg is limited. For men, if you aint first youre last, hard binary outcome. For women, if you dont fuck the first, your bloodline will be last, not quite as unforgiving.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 06:48 PM
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Lmao ok bud
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 08:22 AM
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Just lol if you think chad will share his resources with multiple women. He might share his sperm but thats about where it ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 08:13 AM
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Its common sense that a woman selects the superior male if given the opportunity and right circumstances. Its male competition, the woman mates with the better guy. Whether your talking squirrels, fish, or humans, its all the same. This plays out in many many ways, but the general law always holds true. Its embedded in nature much like your instinct for food and water is. Just look around at how few men are actually genuinely attractive. You dont have to be gay to spot an attractive guy. Theres …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 08:48 PM
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They dont lose out in terms of sex with men they are attracted to, but they do lose out in terms of stable husbands and family life. In my opinion women innately desire the quintessential family life more than the casual sex with hot guys. As written above, the numbers just dont work for each woman to get an atttactive masculine husband. The holiday season brings this out full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:07 PM
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Just bee yourself !
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:58 PM
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Beauty is objective , not subjective. If in your hypothetical scenario men became physically attractive as in their facial bones and height somehow changed, then they would be objectively attractive and women wouldnt reject them. Its not relative imo. Good looks are good looks, sure one man can be better looking than another, but at the same time if both are attractive then they can both get a woman. So to answer ur question, less rejections.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 05:21 AM
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People wont admit that looks matter more than personality. Looks can make up for personality, personality cant make up for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 04:18 AM
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This isnt just the bar, the green light stays green everywhere for desirable men. You could literally be a chad getting pulled over by a female cop and shed probably still be open to your advances if you were hot enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 05:54 PM
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Just lol at being this petty
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 05:47 PM
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Of course they are, just look at the growing percentage of young men that know about maxillary position, forward growth, mewing, zygomatic bone, orbital rims, etc...or maybe thats just me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 11:06 PM
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We're gonna need a bigger cope
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 02:41 PM
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Middle then lower imo , but either one can ruin it entirely
/r/BlackPillScience14/11/18 01:57 PM
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No its generally an estimate made by just looking at it, and is usually tied to your maxilla position and position of your bite. You can usually estimate every 10 degrees or so. Regardless, you seem to have a solid bite and jaw so looks were never a deal breaker, your behavior was. Its very important in getting laid (if angle is high enough), im not obsessing just wanted to gauge your apperance as succintly as possible my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 01:52 PM
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How tall are you, how deep of an overbite do you have, and what is your gonial angle? If these attributes are indeed subpar then congrats man , you truly did escape inceldom.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 01:34 PM
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Can confirm, am nonchad millenial normie
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 04:29 AM
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Did this for a week with a 9/10 dude. The match rate was like 95% but the really hot girls were usually not dtf, the average and below always were tho. Im guessing the really hot girls still expect something more than casual sex from chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 07:47 PM
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Whats hilarious is that a good looking guy who's a boring, scared pussy will still outcompete an average looking thrill seeking adrenaline junkie bad boy. Women will sexually select the former. Thrill seeking is fun and i see the allure, but you very well could die for nothing. It doesnt directly help you in the smv, it just means you dont give a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 04:50 PM
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My guess is 1 in 200 or about .5% have the top tier looks to be models. A lot of shit has to go right to develop a model face and inherit model body proportions.
/r/BlackPillScience29/09/18 03:03 PM
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Anything but looks theory, anything but the truth
/r/BlackPillScience29/09/18 02:59 PM
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Unfortunately it wont fix your jaw recession as that is caused by a malocclusion which is abnormal bite, t will mostly just grow your brow ridge and slightly grow all the other facial bones. And also change your skin, eyes.
/r/BlackPillScience10/05/18 06:47 PM
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Would definitely be positive change for behavior and facial masculizination, just watch out for hair loss, that alone makes it very risky.
/r/BlackPillScience10/05/18 06:36 PM
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Raise testosterone and serotonin
/r/BlackPillScience10/05/18 05:16 PM
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You are my favorite female troll. I always imagine in my head that you look like one too, as you passionately type away on your keyboard with a crooked smile, but I'm sure that's not the case :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 03:04 PM
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Favorable zygomatic width, long ramus length, protruding brow ridge, low gonial angle, laterally protruding zygos, high facial width to height ratio, compact midface, forward grown maxilla, significant protrusion of manidible, small philtrum, positive canthal tilt, light colored eyes, norwood 0 or 1, significant lateral manibular growth, significant horizontal mandibular growth, above average neck circumference, wide palate, relatively larger cranial volume, forward projecting chin, favorable sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 10:58 PM
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I disagree, logically a woman wants to sleep with someone she is attracted to, the more extreme the attraction the more she is willing to forgive things like social skills and the more willing she is to approach the guy, so yes, if you are a very attractive man (probably close to 95%+) , then you don't need to even approach or display social skills, you're genes do all the talking. If she's taken then its a different story...usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 09:32 PM
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Can you imagine being this retarded?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 09:27 PM
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Based on personal experience and people i know i disagree with you but we wont change each others opinions. Cheers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 10:09 PM
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With tinder this has changed
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 10:01 PM
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In my opinion, no should get hand outs, regardless of gender. Everyone can find a minimum wage job at the very least. Are you saying that welfare should only be available to women lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 09:55 PM
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That's because if women weren't getting help from the govt., they'd have to marry these losers No they wouldn't, they could work and support themselves if they choose to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 08:11 PM
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No, women can work and remain alone if they want. Equal access would obviously be a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 08:07 PM
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Yeah, its not that they go out the window, its that women are faced with perpetual loneliness if they don't actively decide to lower their standards. They are still there just as much as when they were in their 20's, they'll never go away, and that's why they often take out their disappointment/frustration on the beta husband for not being an alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 02:48 PM
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xD
/r/MGTOW14/12/17 02:14 AM
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How much gear are you on to be this angry at a bunch of internet strangers? I thought we were all brothers here?
/r/MGTOW14/12/17 02:09 AM
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Fuarrk thats genius
/r/MGTOW14/12/17 02:07 AM
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For this reason i love the law, i troll and never break eye contact with alphas, and i can just feel the rage inside them as they look away because of the awkwardness. One of these days im gonna get my shit tossed lol
/r/MGTOW14/12/17 02:02 AM
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??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 09:34 PM
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yep, i started in 2014 and just this last summer had the true ah-ha moment. 23 as well
/r/MGTOW13/12/17 07:48 PM
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Because shes not carnally attratced to her partner like she was with the ons or fwb. This is obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 07:13 PM
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womens smv revolves solely around appearance, not behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 07:06 PM
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Some people have no other choice, its not that they want to be alone rather they are forced to be alone. Normies deny this because they believe in the just world fallacy of everyone being able to get a romantic counterpart. If youre realistic about your circumstances, then you can avoid the insanity you speak of.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 06:50 PM
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Some guys just equate awalt with all women are terrible humans, they just havent realized their behavior isnt terrible, its just how they are wired to behave. Again, its the guys that cant cope with "losing", which they are reminded of everytime a woman ignores them sexually. Its possible to make peace with losing sexually, its just hard to do and takes time.
/r/MGTOW13/12/17 05:21 PM
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Absolutely. Its only the unaware dudes that actively hate women. The rational ones understand that their sexual strategy is simply rooted in their nature, much like a cows nature is to moo. Once you realize this, that anger is foolish and unproductive. These misogunist views are really just coming from the guys coping with being unattractive or being divorce raped. For all the peace that some of these guys claim to have, they sure dont show it in their views on women.
/r/MGTOW13/12/17 04:48 PM
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being this retarded
/r/MGTOW13/12/17 03:09 PM
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Haha thought that was a given
/r/MGTOW12/12/17 07:12 PM
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But the same could be said for delusion, it just is. I think the truth is a much darker energy, and thus people are averse to it. But yes I agree that this darker energy isn't bad, its just dark, and its the human perception that paints darkness into bad
/r/MGTOW12/12/17 02:59 PM
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True, but even when you acknowledge it, what then? You don't "win" in any way shape or form, it just is what it is. Its the classic innocent bliss vs. depressing truth
/r/MGTOW12/12/17 02:51 PM
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Lead them on, hook up with them, and once you've had enough bang bang, simply stop talking to them. That's what I would do.
/r/MGTOW12/12/17 02:49 PM
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Casual sex isn't something of value? Are you this really this far down the mgtow rabbit hole?
/r/MGTOW12/12/17 02:08 PM
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Sure, but a bigger chad is few and far between, and ALL the women are looking to get fucked. Think of it like this, theres 100 guys and 100 girls in the world, and you rank 15th among the dudes. You will still monpolize the pussy, and take advantage of your position. Sure you wont be fucking the top 25 girls, hell maybe note even the top 35, but the rest is yours to conquer. Meanwhile the bottom 40 dudes get zilch. Also the incel garbage you refer to is the blackpill my man, not the bluepill.
/r/MGTOW12/12/17 04:13 AM
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Well i mean all you can hope for is to be chad, then you dont have this problem. In fact hypergamy and briffaults law are no longer a problem , but rather a huge life advantage if youre lucky enough to be a chad. Nature sucks only if youre a beta male.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 09:17 PM
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Low n count detection bot where you at?
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 02:33 AM
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Ya marriage is a pretty ridiculous deal, but its a deal a lot of men have to make to get sexual access (unless you lead them on as a beta bux). Mgtow is easy mode if you can sleep around, and damn near impossible mode if you cant.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 02:26 AM
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The answer youre looking for isnt going to be found on mgtow, forever alone, incels, etc. These are all just coping mechanisms. The answer youre looking for doesnt exist, because you are trying to escape hardwired insticnt, youre putting the cart before the horse. As a fellow incel i could tell you that there is in fact a secret to getting happiness with these life circumstances, but id be lying, bcuz sadly there isnt. We gotta learn to live like this until the day we die.
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 02:12 PM
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Best solution moving forward imo is huge reduction in welfare. As sad as it is, single moms and their kids need to be cut off IF sexual freedom is to be accepted by beta males. "No welfare" in exchange for complete female sexual freedom seems like a good societal compromise, and just maybe can deter a full on collapse.
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 04:51 AM
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I still had hope in high school, but college shoved the blackpill in all my orifices
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 03:42 AM
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Thx brotha, its funny how simple this would all be if they were honest with us from the start
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 03:38 AM
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There will be a tipping point. God could you imagine being blue pilled past 30 or something and then realizing all this shit one day; i would yearn for a quick painless death. Its so fucked up that the social engineers made it this way and this indeed how society is. Fucking. crazy. man.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 12:05 AM
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I think its teaching men the fact of the matter, which is that only the attractive guys get to be assertive and express themselves sexually. The betas should go home, play video games, and jerk off. I just wish someone would have told me this sooner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 11:54 PM
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Thank god we're on the right side of this whole mess
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 11:44 PM
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There is a certain tranquility in realizing you, as you are, are simply not sufficient enough as a man to sexually stimulate a woman. Its inherently a negative aspect of said man, but confronting this truthfully takes balls and like i said brings about a certain calm. It was always out of our hands brother, enjoy what you can and dont dwell on what cant change.
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 10:08 PM
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oh tru tru , I was remiss in my assessments. I guess his testosterone level is just too high to commit to one shelter, some days its Panera other days its Noodles & Co. , ya gotta switch it up. Ive heard his presence is so awe inspiring that the female workers are conditioned to start preparing complimentary sandwiches upon hearing his footsteps from the parking lot
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 07:34 PM
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then whats the issue?
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 07:31 PM
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I agree, but id say its toxic because of the men at the top, cant blame them for taking advantage of the sexual milieu tho, id do it too if i could. Plus casual sex is available at moments notice for these guys, you dont really need a relationship other than for companionship, the intimacy and validation can be obtained with no commitment on your end, its a win win if ur chad
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 07:05 PM
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Because hes homeless and "doin his own thing", despite being a guy with god tier looks, hes "different" than just your typical chad, cmon now
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 07:02 PM
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Ya i think so too, but thats the subconscious reason, what he thinks surface level is thats hes providing some sort of deep insight that we all value. I mean idc its not like i get triggered by it, but i bet a decent amount of users do, which is also hilarious.
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 06:50 PM
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Very ironic indeed, reading his comment made me lol irl
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 06:35 PM
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I think the problem is he cant get casual sex, otherwise he wouldnt have a problem
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 06:34 PM
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6 ft 165 small frame bruh , beta bux 4 u
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 04:57 PM
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the difference between "confident and assertive" vs. "pushy and overbearing" is directly related to the appearance of the male in question, just my two cents
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 04:46 PM
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I honestly don't get guys like this, whats the point of this post even? You're an alpha male that can get sex without being a beta bux ...and you're obviously doing that when you want...so i really don't get the point. Besides that you're just living your life, doing what you want. That's just normal living, not reallymgtow. To me at least, mgtow is when you refuse to be a beta bux, and that's pretty much it. Chads being chads is not really mgtow lol. But i did enjoy reading this because i enjoy…
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 04:33 PM
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I am 6'4 and 230 lbs. And I can assure to every Incel out there security power and status comes before looks 6'4 230 I can assure you lmao
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 04:31 PM
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may the cope be with you
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 09:17 PM
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Tinder is a game for very good looking men and average women, simple as that. If you're not one of these, its a huge waste of time. Most dudes cant admit this to their egos so they keep playing and wondering why it doesn't work. Funniest is when they think their pictures or first messages need to be improved, LOL its their bones that needs to be improved.
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 07:46 PM
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Yeah this is the biggest redpill. I did it with a 9/10 guy for a month or so and its really depressing. Girls go out of their way to message and set up an irl meeting with you. Women act to chad as betas act to women. Thats why as a beta youve got one logical option, copy chad and dont put in effort, this will end up with you having no sex obviously, but that is the way its supposed to be, and even tho you dont get your dick wet you still have your self-image and integrity. Betas just need to st…
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 06:54 PM
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Smh thank god i had a normal youth. I feel pity for you, but hey i guess you know the "truth" now.
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 06:43 PM
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your flair checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 02:55 PM
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Are you a guy or a girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 03:46 AM
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Ya dont say
/r/MGTOW06/12/17 02:34 AM
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Dude if you've got the looks then just fuck them and dont commit, or get into a relationship that you can tolerate and one where you're not being used. You'll still experience the carnal stuff you're describing, and probably even intimate connection. If you dont have the looks then idk what to tell ya, there is no answer.
/r/MGTOW06/12/17 01:59 AM
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hehe, getting a little uncomfortable there boss?
/r/MGTOW06/12/17 01:58 AM
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I think you are vastly underestimating the importance of appearance and how it affects typical life paths and experiences, as well as overestimating other attributes that dont really hold much weight in outcomes. This is fairly common, and I just see it as a pessimistic flavor of the just world fallacy. But again, these are just my opinions on how I see the world, and I'll admit they hold no more weight than yours, maybe even less since I fit into the OP description of sexually unsuccessful male…
/r/MGTOW06/12/17 01:37 AM
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Ah gotcha, ok ill revise my estimate. What do you figure is the % of users using mgtow as a cope for ugliness/autism?
/r/MGTOW06/12/17 12:51 AM
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But wouldn't it only be projection if I denied that I myself am incel and that the other users are incel? I know full well my reality and acknowledge it, Im not denying anything rather owning up to it. Consequently I'm claiming (conservatively mind you) that half of the users here are sexually unsuccessful men using mgtow as a coping mechanism, much like myself. I'm literally admitting that I am using it as a coping mechanism, how is this projection based on the definition on wikipedia?
/r/MGTOW06/12/17 12:36 AM
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What is projecting? Sorry I am a little slow.
/r/MGTOW06/12/17 12:23 AM
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Yeah i am, and i suppose i am, but out of curiosity what/how am i projecting?
/r/MGTOW06/12/17 12:18 AM
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alpha fuks beta bux
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 12:09 AM
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Nope they aren't. I'd wager half of the users and lurkers here are guys that are not sexually attractive to women aka are beta males, and have limited experience with the opposite sex, or they've been naturally relegated to the provider role and delude themselves into thinking they're ladies men. Most of the dudes who swear off women entirely seem like the type of guys that have never even touched a girl lol. It is what it is tho, the cope must go on! Also, real slayers don't concern themselves …
/r/MGTOW06/12/17 12:07 AM
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AF/BB explains your last question. I noticed I'm much more fatalistic/deterministic in my views, while you are much more open to variability/choice/free will. I think some of the points got lost in translation because of this disconnect, and I'll just leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 11:52 PM
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Kinda Just LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 11:25 PM
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He comes across as masculine to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 11:07 PM
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Who knows how many were and weren't, because ALL would be loyal on the surface. I think most were simply because of religion and extreme public disapproval for any kind of infidelity to a guy that was putting his life on the line. But then again, cant override instinct. Idk man, like I said who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 10:36 PM
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haha the law of the jaw is extremely legit. It is the single most "make or break" feature for a male. If you have a small mandible, then you will never be viewed as externally masculine, never, for your whole life it will always be this way. You can be 6'4, 250 lbs on roids, but if you have a small mandible you'll still be perceived as less of a man, its inescapable. Whereas a man with a strong jaw is viewed as masculine by default, even if they're gay or feminine in behavior. The physical almos…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 10:30 PM
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Its only relevant when you're a celebrity, which is so small a group that its basically non-existent when generalizing. Also if you're a celebrity, the reason you got there is because you concerned yourself with things other than sexual strategy. Its not like beta brad is going to be a Hollywood actor as a result of his quest to become chad lol, it would only happen in pursuit of the passion for acting. I think as long as you don't bend to the will of others, aren't nervous of other's opinions, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 10:23 PM
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No easy way to put it, but yeah you're spot on. This makes sense though evolutionarily, if you think about tens/hundreds/apetimes of thousands of years ago. Do you think it was advantageous of women to be attached to the men in their tribes moreso than men were attached to them? Hell no, the dudes come and go , i.e. get killed or enslaved. The women are usually accepted by the conquering party because they are a non-threat and a biological resource. This is also why aggression and dominance are …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 10:13 PM
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In my opinion, for what its worth, the reason the dating game has been uprooted is bcuz modern times have enabled women's natural hypergamous instinct, and let me preface that by saying there's nothing inherently wrong with hypergamy, like other biological tools it serves an intended purpose, and arguing or negatively reacting to this biological principle is quite simply foolish. Moreover, the enablement of hypergamy has in turn exposed the concept of the instinct itself (it's not necessary to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 09:57 PM
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thx Dan, although you're life seems far from perfect...
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 08:38 PM
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These people honestly think a beta acting masculine is going to make him physically attractive. Doesn't work like that. Everything goes through the looks filter and gets assigned accordingly. You cant escape the halo effect. That's why whenever they say masculinity I take that as "looking masculine" , not the actual act of masculinity. And most of us are utterly fucked in the looking masculine realm.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 09:07 PM
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Yep exactly, incels have been saying this all along but no one listens. Its all looks and the great lie that women can look past them. They most definitely cannot, just like we dudes cant either.
/r/MGTOW04/12/17 08:01 PM
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I don't know how you find the will to live, so brave
/r/MGTOW04/12/17 02:21 PM
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lol whatever you say fella
/r/MGTOW04/12/17 02:16 PM
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Ugh ikr, all those women want to cuck their bf's with you, your life really sucks dude, might as well end it lmao
/r/MGTOW04/12/17 12:48 AM
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a quarter sounds about right. Ages 20-25 probably even higher, and 25+ a little lower because of beta bux vs alpha fucks
/r/MGTOW03/12/17 10:44 PM
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username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 10:11 PM
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6ft+ , clavicle - 22 inches+ , low gonial angle, above average ramus length, prominent mandible, blue eyes, sub 12% bf, positive canthal tilt, protruding orbital rims, prominent zygos, significant zygomatic width, strong brow ridge, testosterone level - 700+ , and high fhwr ratio. Edit: I almost forgot...wide palate
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 10:13 PM
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Lol id say 10% of betas are woke enough to understand real sexual dynamics, out of those maybe a few % are actually averse to being a beta bux. Most betas get conned, and itll be many generations until most betas are unplugged.
/r/MGTOW29/11/17 12:17 AM
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Once you have the looks it then becomes all about the vibe. Its a spectrum, the less looks you have the more vibe youll need. Mdma maxes out your vibe, think of it that way. Your brain is on serotonin/confidence/happiness/positivity overload. If an incel takes molly and goes to a rave, he'll make some friends, probably even female, but he aint fucking them at the end of the night cuz looks. Thats why looks are everything, they come BEFORE everything else, and that doesnt mean other things dont m…
/r/MGTOW29/11/17 12:04 AM
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I disagree, you can be very masculine looking yet physically unattractive. It's that ogre-ish type of ugly, ya know? With big frame and height.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 11:03 PM
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I agree, feminism and RP seem to me to take different paths toward a similar Darwinian approach. They are pushing nature's agenda which simply consists of removing/hating the weak in society, which ends up being weak and genetically inferior males. It's not really bad though because its the natural state, and I say that as an ugly feminine looking guy who understands his place in the hierarchy. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 10:56 PM
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But can the unattractiveness be too much if the guys is masculine looking yet ugly? I think no, dudes that are ugly as shit but look masc/dom can find a niche of girls to get with imo, albeit unattractive girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 10:07 PM
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Nyc is the titz
/r/MGTOW28/11/17 07:00 PM
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Thx for sharing that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 04:13 AM
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Try harder
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 04:12 AM
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Im redpill, approach many girls, have friends that are girls and still cant get laid dude, its all looks
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 03:53 AM
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Is this supposed to be some sort of attempt at trivializing his ideas?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 03:52 AM
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If she's not with him cause she's sexually attracted to him (in which case the transaction would be equal per se) then she is in it for something extrinsic, and vice versa the man will never be in a relationship without sexual attraction so that's what he's ultimately after first and foremost. Women can accept no attraction, albeit begrudgingly, but men cannot just by virtue of how the code is written.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 09:39 PM
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In fact it opened up my eyes to the benefits that victimhood has Could you elaborate what you mean with this? Im very curious to hear and i think you have an excellent point. Thanks man
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 08:47 PM
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Idk about yall, but if i fucked one of my teachers at 15 i would have been the happiest most confident motherfucker in school, period. Just my personal feelings obviously but it would have been a positive experience i can say for certain.
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 08:38 PM
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You need to get out more and spend less time on Reddit Trueee
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 03:03 AM
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we trippy mane
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 01:10 AM
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We might be part of the first group of modern men that understand all this and can talk about I think about this everyday, just the sheer amount of varied knowledge all of us have. Its like being able to access a never ending symposium filled with thousands of intelligent people and each of them has a personal story that enlightens you to a new truth. The internet is truly something to marvel at, plus the memes are spicy af.
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 12:49 AM
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Sexual harassment by chad is a paradox, cant happen, the universe will explode before a woman claims a chad sexually harassed her. If she does, then he wasnt chad.
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 12:36 AM
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RP is positive for both alpha and beta men, the former gets more sex and the latter can decide to go his own way (abstain from marriage/relationships) once he learns the truth. I don't think it affects women quite so much other than absence of beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 06:32 PM
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Denial is the first step
/r/MGTOW21/11/17 05:42 PM
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Lmao dude some people just like shoes. People collect stuff, some collect coins, some collect postcards, some collect shoes. It's not cause of some deeper sexual strategy sheesh
/r/MGTOW21/11/17 02:32 PM
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Fair enough, can you elaborate?
/r/MGTOW21/11/17 02:36 AM
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Did the penny not drop then? They knew, they just didn't know the extent. That's all he's trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:53 PM
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*facepalm
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:35 PM
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But for a while you do agree that men will literally have no other option. Society is still intact and the taxes will probably be about 50-60% of income in order to support a beta-less society. Its either pay taxes, jail, or the woods. And the woods are NOT a viable option for most guys, because they will perish quickly, myself included.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 10:31 PM
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I used to post their bruv lol, Im one of them. If you were incel, I think you'd be an mma-cel :) Its cool though I understand your views and where youre coming from. Its hard for guys to envision and empathize with the circumstances of a true forced loneliness (TFL) male, add to this fact that most men are high t, low empathy, and inherently adopt a "dog eat dog" worldview just by virtue of masculinity, and it all makes perfect sense. All the debates and topics and content we're seeing make perf…
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 10:28 PM
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I am very grateful for being redpilled and in my early 20's. Ill tell you this, it still hurts very bad knowing that I never stood a chance, but I truly cannot imagine wasting these years believing in the blue pill. I would be irate at the world if I had to, in my 30's, discover the truth by myself. Thank god for the webz!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:21 PM
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If you want to attract women, which is the primary goal of most Manospherians (PUA and TRP) lol wut? This is implied the goal of every heterosexual man on earth. Wtf are you on about...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:16 PM
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Physical attraction is definitely within our own control xD , the point of natural selection is that it literally is not
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:13 PM
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To be fair when he says "if you're too obtuse to see that women cream themselves over fit, attractive, independent guys and not dudes who..." , it implies that the observer is rational enough to deduce that the thing separating himself from those successful men is biological and genetic in nature. So he's right, the problem is the majority of men aren't intelligent enough to come to this realization given the barrage of bluepill programming. Its all fucked man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:12 PM
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unless you're deformed you can do a lot to improve your appearance nah
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:08 PM
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I addressed this somewhere in this comment thread. Im talking near future where things are still running, enough people participating in society that enough taxes can be extracted. We kind of have to keep that assumption that the status quo will remain, otherwise this entire new age sexual paradigm debate can be refuted with "doesn't matter the apocalypse is imminent". For all intents and purposes, assume men will work, remain alone, and pay taxes. Absurd yes but lets assume for the sake of argu…
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 09:53 PM
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Lmao at that point it just comes down to physical strength. Tall handsome guy that's a pussy would beat up a smaller dude that happens to be more courageous and aggressive. Bottom line is tall dude wins, because genetics. We're talking sexual dynamics here though, not that other shit. Also, what are you two on about, its like we got the stereotypical mgtow in one corner and stereotypical incel in the other.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 09:48 PM
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or a beta himself Most of us are betas bro, and you don't choose to be beta, that's not how life works lol. But moving aside, what about my post do you think is pussyish?
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 09:43 PM
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Gotcha dawg, but do you mind sharing your thoughts on my post...? They crave ANY attention, so the betas not dumping for them most definitely effects them Sure attention will drop naturally, but I don't think it does harm from a sexual standpoint (i.e. who and when they're fuking), and that's all im after here. Also, in light of recent events I don't think women are all too pleased when unattractive guys approach or initiate them, so to me logically it seems they'd enjoy these men being wholly a…
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 09:31 PM
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hehe oh there definitely is such a thing, its a very exclusive club however
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 09:19 PM
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Can't force a horse to drink water, can only show them where it is lol dude , I concede you are more woke than me fam
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 09:17 PM
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The rest may as well not exist to them But you can bet they'll cry for more government benefits to take care of them This is my whole point, they don't have to deal with us and can get resources from the state. Everyone wins in a sad sort of way, but its ultimately the most logical, positive move for both parties imo.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 09:06 PM
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Not ugly Bingo
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 09:02 PM
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Lmao, manson's face back then is like 8/10. Without his looks he wouldn't have had the charm.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 08:57 PM
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Yeah I've looked into jaw surgery and idk man, it just seems so fake and desperate. I figure this much, the universe does not want me reproducing and its made me very very aware of that fact, so I have this weird thing where if I got jaw surgery and miraculously started attracting women in my mid 20's, it wouldn't be the real "me", it wouldn't be my essence or spirit, it'd be some fake shit. Likely, in the end, the abundance of women, validation, and sex would prove to me that that those surface…
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 08:47 PM
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If you have confidence in yourself and other men cannot make you look away in fear the problem isn't getting a woman What about my 5'4 balding indian friend?
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 08:41 PM
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The self improvement route is essential. It's the only way to stay sane because you can basically refute that "what if" part of your brain. Putting in effort is a must-do, even though the disappointment of not being attractive will always be there, its a constant and it'll never be resolved because to resolve it is literally to become attractive.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 08:38 PM
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That's life dude, at least we're not bluepilled white knights and manginas anymore. Even if we don't get sex, we always have our integrity and not even chad can take that from you, unless of course you let him take it.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 08:28 PM
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I don't think he cares how it came about tbh, he just kind of accepts his dice-roll circumstances and doesn't spend his time obsessing about not being good enough, he savors the moment because he knows he is good enough. He doesn't have to dwell on the blackpill too long other than acknowledging its existence and truth.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 08:24 PM
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Ya this is a definite problem. I guess by this post I am referring to the near future/next 50-100 years (pre-collapse golden age) before everything falls apart.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 08:22 PM
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They crave a desirable man to look after them. An undesirable man caring after her will leave her disappointed/miserable just like if she were alone.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 08:21 PM
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They crave a desirable man to look after them. An undesirable man caring after her will leave her disappointed/miserable just like if she were alone.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 08:21 PM
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Yeah its definitely understandable, I just don't agree with it per se. But I get it, they're venting. And yeah the only person who can consume the blackpill and not let it consume him is chad obviously, the winner readily accepts that he has indeed won.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 08:17 PM
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They are right from the perspective of biological facts/truth, but they are not right in their often emotional outbursts to those facts. Most people compartmentalize the two, and just bundle it all up as one "WRONG!" package, without looking at them distinctively. Do I agree with their behavior or absurd solutions to the sexual game? Absolutely not. Do I agree with their observations of the sexual game? Absolutely, in fact it was so blackpilled that I often had to read through particular comment…
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 08:11 PM
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We're not gonna be able to tell you what it is that will give you purpose, we simply dont and cant know that dude
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 08:21 PM
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Muh le elevated consciousness meme
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 08:19 PM
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It sounds like your just unattractive to women and blame them for this fact. Let it go man, neither women nor you are at fault, its just how things shaped out to be.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 08:16 PM
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Nature in a nutshell
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 08:14 PM
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great husband, exceptional father, and positive contributing member of society. Why is that not enough? Because its all about looks
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 10:17 PM
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lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 09:49 PM
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I think he just means that the manual labor blue collar jobs are usually filled with robust , wide framed, high testosterone guys and not skinny, thin wristed cucks. Its just the symbol of the worker that he's getting at, which is true to an extent, cause you cant be a construction worker without significant physical strength and size.
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 07:56 PM
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We have no political or social capital, why do they care? Isnt freedom of thought a thing? Its hilarious that sexually frustrated males and mgtow on reddit receive disproportionate attention to things like 9/11 truth, federal reserve, recent pedophilia, income inequality, etc. Ya know, real issues.
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 07:37 PM
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Kek
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 03:10 PM
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Very true, when I think back on my redpill/blackpill journey, its been nearly 4 years in the making to get to the understanding I have today. Lots of epic mental battles along the way and many bitter truths grudgingly accepted. And I am pretty obsessed with this shit since im ugly, so its been a daily thing that im reading/researching. You're spot on, it cannot happen all at once, in fact its a slow process filled with research and it truly does take years.
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 11:24 PM
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Point being that its not the beta/avg males life thats the problem, its squarely his appearance or lack thereof lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 01:34 AM
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You've made it far far too complicated with the drummer story lol, you just need the looks and the rest is a done deal. Average guy isnt average cause of his life, its cause of his looks. Chad in khakis at a logistics firm is legitimately more sexually attractive than a 5'8 drummer with a recessed chin and negative canthal tilt (eye angle for those unaware)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 12:05 AM
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This is true, the men dont have to marry her and i think thats the next "move" so to speak from the male camp as a reaction to the female dual mating strategy. Women know that loneliness is the worst human condition, and use it to their advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 11:17 PM
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She didnt win the lottery, she was just the hottest girl and thus secured commitment from chad. All the other girls are aware they arent hot enough, and thus they go for casual sex with chad cause thats the next best thing. They will never find their "ideal" mate, because that is chad and by definition he is scarce. There is no magic, its all calculated like you said and many men suffer and even die simply because dual mating strategy is used by women nowadays. Not saying one side is more deserv…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 11:02 PM
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B-b-but i thought women can find otherwise unattractive guys attractive given enough time and exposure?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 10:45 PM
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L O O K S O O K S
/r/MGTOW14/11/17 10:39 PM
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Lol this point is so overdone, yes bro we get it your number 1 priority should be yourself. But what if just maybe you yourself wanted to get laid? Hmmm.... now we have a guy that is doing his own thing, putting himself first, living for himself, YET he cant get the very thing he wants most. It doesn't matter how actualized you are, if you cant conjure the will to power to get what you want as a man, you will be disappointed. This is why most men cant get over the fact that they are unattractive…
/r/MGTOW14/11/17 10:25 PM
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You're just unattractive to the opposite sex dude, its not you're fault and a lot of guys know this feel so you're not alone. It's also not a flaw of your character or "personality", you just simply don't evoke sexual attraction from women, your bones aren't adequate, literally that simple. The game was decided before it began.
/r/MGTOW14/11/17 10:05 PM
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Lol wut? Women label certain guys who approach them or express sexual interest in them as creeps, its not guys that are waiting for the girl to approach them. Thats literally a guy that appears as if hes minding his own business. I think expressing sexual interest in the girl is a prerequisite in getting branded a "creep".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 07:12 PM
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Thats natures message yeah, women are just natures proxy by which to filter the best male genes. Thats why getting mad at women is absurd, its not them consciously deciding to be biologically programmed this way, they have to be because they serve as natures evolutionary gatekeeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 06:16 PM
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Ah gotcha, i dont really know tbh. The problem is simply my mandible (lower jaw). I already lift weights and have a nice body, low body fat %, have a good job that i dont hate, and im a white guy with average height, so theres not much else i can do other than hope to meet a girl who can look past my very unattractive face.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 06:04 PM
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Im saying back in the day guys like me often found a partner and started a family because women either had to settle or be alone, and they usually settled cause no one wants to be alone. Im unattractivr in both scenarios, but the outcome is different. Today its a different story, guys like me are alone and girls do short term stuff with other guys. What do you not understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 05:54 PM
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For who? I would strongly disagree, being lonely leads to depression among many other negative things, regardless of gender. Its the reason for incels/FA/mgtow
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 05:47 PM
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Lol that's not it at all, she would have had a choice as well and rightfully so, but the difference being that if she said no to me, she couldn't find someone better short term to be with, she'd have to be alone just like me unless she was willing to settle. Girls don't have to settle anymore if they want romance, they never have to be lonely. Back in the day, sure she could reject all the ugly guys, but the hot guys weren't there for the short term.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 05:16 PM
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Hmmm... this life path sounds very enticing. I currently have a degree, a decent job, and know how to code at a rudimentary level, but that's something I just need to find motivation to improve, shouldn't be too hard. Ill admit that I was embellishing the shitiness of my situation, because my life is great aside from the fact that I have zero prospect of getting intimate with a girl. Arguably though without sex you're not really living, imo romance and intimacy are by far the most important ingr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 04:16 PM
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You must admit then, for certain men it is truly and unequivocally "over" in the context of sex, because they're starting from such a disadvantage that anything that they can change is not nearly enough to bring them to an adequate level. Extremely short men, or men with very small mandibles for example. I think these are the genuine "incels", not the mentally deranged slightly below average guy that claim to be incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 01:45 AM
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Its brain chemicals bruv. I assume you took some mdma which makes your serotonin go bonkers and you feel like the happiest guy on earth. Drugs or consistent postive external validation (positive feedback loop) are the only way to attain that state of mind. Slayers and good looking guys exude that aura of positivity and "swagger" as you put it because through their life experience and interactions with other they've always been reinforced positively. After a certain point they can rest at ease be…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 01:32 AM
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Well no shit, but I would probably be married and starting a family rather than battling chronic solitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 01:04 AM
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As an ugly male who copes with weed and video games, this hit hard lol, I have no clue what to do, this is a very sad time to be an unattractive early 20's male :( I have friends who are in the same circumstances and I can just tell, we never speak about any of this, but I can tell. Really sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:40 PM
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Im just waiting for african american social media culture to adopt redpill/blackpill/looks theory memes, then ill know for sure that shit is goin down lol. Instagram rules the western sexual narrative atm
/r/MGTOW13/11/17 07:37 PM
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Spot on, we yearn for attention, when all nature can provide is indifference. Do you think then the only way to be truly ecstatic and actualized as human day-in and day-out is to be one of the powerful, masculine males who "won" the game so to speak. Or can incels and lesser males ever be happy is the question I guess. Also thanks for posting, you are obviously aware of the true state of things, my worry also is for the guys that are coping hard with mgtow wihtout fully realizing the meaning and…
/r/MGTOW13/11/17 07:09 PM
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That last part is something all of the suicidally depressed need to understand, people think its the ultimate way to get back at the world, but really you're just depriving yourself of the only thing you actually have. I cannot imagine the regret of someone in that split second.
/r/MGTOW13/11/17 06:43 PM
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You cant know struggle just like I cant know endless no-strings-attached validation. It is what it is, be happy you're on the favorable side m8, its pretty grim on this side.
/r/MGTOW09/11/17 10:13 PM
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Haha that sounds pretty great. I'll have to start planning, any countries in particular? And ya Im a white guy 5'11
/r/MGTOW09/11/17 09:18 PM
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Why?
/r/MGTOW09/11/17 09:07 PM
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Exactly, I just laugh at these types of posts, the naivety and lack of awareness is comical. If you are lucky enough to be chad or anywhere near it in the ONE life you get, every waking moment should be spent thanking whatever deity you believe in. It is by far the best thing that can happen to a human male, by a long shot. Guys like this have no clue what real struggle is. They don't understand that their entire life outcome is fundamentally entrenched in their superior position, that their gen…
/r/MGTOW09/11/17 09:06 PM
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Decent white collar job, making good money for someone right out of college. And 6.25" NBP so average.
/r/MGTOW09/11/17 08:38 PM
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I am ugly, and it destroyed me mentally for the first 21 years of my life. The damage is done. Dont deny the difference in life quality and overall happiness/dopamine that stems from being a masculine high testosterone man. With that said, oncd you learn that the validation or lack therof is whats causing you misery, you can recognize it for what it is and slowly begin to detach your self worth from female validation. But just lol at a desirable guy telling normal or undesirable dudes that its n…
/r/MGTOW09/11/17 07:47 PM
1

Sadly if youre not chad there is no way to get it other than giving in to the system.
/r/MGTOW09/11/17 05:41 PM
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He is more worthwhile in the context of the "game" though. You cant deny this. Sure, he's not worthwhile from your subjective reality, but objectively he is more worthwhile. But I agree there's two frames of reference on this, one not being necessarily more right than the other. It can only psyche you out if you let it psyche you out.
/r/MGTOW08/11/17 09:33 PM
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Yes those are the options. Either the men fight for the alpha status aka sexual access to women and society as we know it doesn't exist, or the men are artificially on the same level at the expense of women. You cant have both.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 07:47 PM
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*sigh Its just not worth explaining anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:21 PM
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Yep, jerk isnt really jerk here. Its just good looking guy, and nice guy in the meme is just average to below average looking guy. Looks are everything, a lot of this subreddit still falls for the higher abstractions of sexual dynamics, but when you just dig down to the symbolic/archetypal level its all looks and testosterone level, not "nice vs. asshole" . No one admits this. And just lol if you think the good looking guy falls off, yeah maybe when hes 40 but who cares at that point, his life w…
/r/MGTOW07/11/17 05:40 PM
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expertly trolled m8
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 10:35 PM
2

That keeps the illusion going, and keeps suicide rates down
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 02:24 PM
1

I figured out looks were everything when i was laughed at and told by girls and boys that i was ugly. I was a 13 year old who knew his place in the world, and not much has changed other than coming to better terms with the fact that ill never be able to get a gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 02:22 PM
1

5'3 with 4 inches is like bottom 5% of men. I think those guys know full well they're fucked. But what about a 5/6 face with average height and dick? (the 50th to 80th interval of men). Those guys still think they have "it" because they can trigger the beta bux instinct in women, and can still get sex and relationships fairly easily. I honestly don't know if women feel physical attraction to those guys, they must to be able to sleep with them, and they aren't even ugly just not very masculinized…
/r/MGTOW06/11/17 01:49 PM
2

Ive been forced into loneliness, no other choice, so youre definitely more fortunate than guys like me. Kudos to you, at least you have perspective and know to be grateful for your circumstances.
/r/MGTOW05/11/17 11:29 PM
1

Nah, if you had a masculinized face your height wouldnt stymie success with women. Face > height > frame. All are important dont get me wrong, but face, and more specifically lower jaw size and shape is most important.
/r/MGTOW03/11/17 08:33 PM
1

Must be nice to be able to attract women like that whenever you feel like it.
/r/MGTOW03/11/17 08:05 PM
1

They have good intentions, but the fact is that a society based on elevated consciousness does not work when enough aren't truly awake. Even most of the hippies weren't truly awake, yet they were clamoring for "peace and love". Sometimes I think the emergence of psychedelics in American suburbia was a psyop.
/r/MGTOW03/11/17 07:27 PM
1

If youre not chad you never really get over not being chad, no likes or chooses to be inferior but you grow to live with it.
/r/MGTOW03/11/17 07:09 PM
5

Being ugly lol
/r/MGTOW03/11/17 06:35 PM
1

Damn bro , real shit
/r/MGTOW03/11/17 06:28 PM
1

They been got aids
/r/MGTOW21/10/17 07:31 AM
1

I don't get why everyones so triggered, this is clearly just a subtle hint that beta males should stop trying because women are not attracted to them. They're helping us out. Alpha fucks beta BUX.
/r/MGTOW19/10/17 07:57 PM
3

• No drugs • No alcohol • No smoking No thanks! Life is boring without these, just use in moderation
/r/MGTOW19/10/17 07:10 PM
2

Its obvious you are jealous of their sexual success.
/r/MGTOW25/09/17 11:50 PM
1

Its tough, a lot of the ugly guys here think they have it solved by "not caring". They are in for a rude awakening one day. The best path to go down as an incel is honest confrontation with your circumstances. Acknowledging you want girls but also acknowledging that it wont happen. Once you do that you MUST stop dwelling on that fact as much as possible. Very hard to do when youre a male in your 20s, damn near impossible but i do think happiness can be attained with enough realism about the situ…
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 01:20 PM
4

IT ALL DEPENDS ON YOUR FACE AKA CAN YOU GET GIRLS OR NOT? Those who cant and deem themselves mgtow are just coping but its a good cope.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 07:37 PM
3

Good question, tbh idk.
/r/MGTOW05/09/17 02:06 AM
1

I'm ugly and cant attract women so i realized that opting out and not chasing something i can never attain is the only logical choice for me.
/r/MGTOW02/09/17 05:22 PM
7

Definitely, the "couple" as we know it is disintegrating. What's the need for it anymore? We are all redpilled now, men and women alike. So now if you are a dude you either have a harem if you're chad or you have an open relationship if you're a beta. For the lesser males that aren't literal cucks, this isn't very favorable so their only other choice is mgtow + casual sex when they can get it. For some that's never without paying. For women it doesn't matter, they will always have the option to …
/r/MGTOW31/08/17 08:27 PM
2

gr8 b8 m8
/r/MGTOW31/08/17 05:06 PM
1

Of course, thats what most of the people here do, the ones that can at least.
/r/MGTOW29/08/17 01:43 AM
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It really comes down to what drew the individual to mgtow in the first place. For some its a legitimate way to distance themselves from marriage and relationships, but keep in mind these are guys that can attract girls. These fellas aren't really coping, other than if they're coping with their anger for being cheated/financially rekt. For the guys that cant attract women in the first place, mgtow is a cope plain and simple, BUT it can be an effective/healthy one if they absolve themselves from t…
/r/MGTOW28/08/17 10:11 PM
1

Find friends and hobbies, there's really no other ways to prevent loneliness if youre opting out of dating (mgtow).
/r/MGTOW25/08/17 05:51 PM
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No no no, you don't understand, the only sex a genuine incel can get is from a hooker, you think most of us haven't tried!? LOL we've had to try harder than ANYONE, but it doesn't matter because we don't pass the looks threshold for a woman. The only reason you guys can be so contemptuous and condescending is cause you were born with an adequate face. Life is literal hell for men that are facially ugly, until they learn to accept themselves and accept that they will never attract women that is. …
/r/MGTOW25/08/17 05:39 PM
2

Im that size, feels bad man. I thought I was slightly above average, guess I'm small...
/r/MGTOW23/08/17 05:57 PM
2

You just need perspective, usually gained through some sort of hardship or life event. You gotta realize how good you actually have it.
/r/MGTOW22/08/17 05:40 PM
1

If you aren't desirable to women, its easy to fall into the trap of "mgtow will make me appealing". The truth is that women don't give two shits about an undesirable male's "indifference", accept that, and move on. You will never win the genetic game, like OP says all this movement is about is reclaiming your time and effort.
/r/MGTOW22/08/17 05:29 PM
1

Your low smv is involuntary, but how you decide to respond to that fact is voluntary. You've got to evaluate your priorities, accept your circumstances, be honest with yourself, and decide which path to go down for to achieve personal happiness and fulfillment in life. Whether that is with a woman or without is up to you, but keep in mind the game is fundamentally rigged against your self interest as a low smv man. Imo the best choice is to opt out, but again that's simply my perspective. I'm a …
/r/MGTOW21/08/17 06:01 PM
3

You only have to cope if you're not in the top 20.
/r/MGTOW21/08/17 05:27 PM
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Tbf I think If you're from 40% to 79%, there's chance. Less than that and you're screwed On point, <40% = incel 40 to 80 = beta cuck +80 = chad Only the top 20 are deemed physically, sexually attractive because they are the ones whose genes are meant to be propagated. The rest are genetic leftover. Really puts a dark spin on the reality we live in.
/r/MGTOW21/08/17 02:37 PM
1

Lol u mad bro? We should have left them alone period. Shouldnt have touched saddam, gaddafi, assad, any of the leaders. Like someone said in this thread, you fought for israel and the dark side in the world. But whatever man, you do you, im not gonna try to convince someone who has this much skin in the game...
/r/MGTOW18/08/17 09:42 PM
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5'10'' is short now? That's how tall I am...feels bad man.
/r/MGTOW18/08/17 08:46 PM
0

Look man this place is about embracing truth. Id have more respect for you if you realize and acknowledge that you were a globalist pawn, whose sole purpose was to destabilize a fragile nation with ethnic tensions and exploit them. Now those people and their children are suffering tremendously because of your "humanitarianism". I dont blame you, but just be aware that you were and seemingly still are a brainwashed puppet of the military industrial complex. No hard feelings man, just call it like…
/r/MGTOW18/08/17 08:36 PM
1

Brought freedom to oppressed people LMAO! More like brought evil and death. Whatever helps you sleep at night...
/r/MGTOW18/08/17 02:34 PM
1

Now I see that monogamy is just a construct for Beta Cuck It comes full circle. That which brought us to the top will always bring us down. Humanity is poetry, the greatest story ever told.
/r/MGTOW17/08/17 09:37 PM
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Damn sucks for your friend, truly nothing he can do, can't override instinct. The thing is, even if those guys that get these kinds of primal reactions were going to pound town 24/7, they still cant reach even a significant number of girls. For the overwhelming majority of women, megachad is reserved for fantasy, but they can get the next best thing - the top 5-10% chad. Now when you consider your average joe...LOL he doesn't stand a chance in this "primitive" sexual paradigm.
/r/MGTOW16/08/17 09:31 PM
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In college I encountered a couple of these 1%er scenarios. As long as you don't take shit personally, it's quite interesting to watch. The onus falls on the girls to court him. The most dreadful thought for all men is realizing that if megachad really really wanted your girl, he could have her and cuck you. No if's, and's, or but's.
/r/MGTOW16/08/17 09:06 PM
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Exactly, this is the predicament if society is to continue as it originated. If only it was possible for beta males to somehow find a way to savor life itself without the need to express their masculinity sexually, then everyone could be happy. Chad and women would be actualized via sexual expression, and beta males would be actualized with ......no idea...r/ mgtow maybe?? Regardless the economy, society, and most importantly technological advancement could keep chugging along. The big picture i…
/r/MGTOW16/08/17 07:05 PM
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So bizarre that most don't see nature taking its course, or come up with some excuse for why humans are different. Observe almost any other animal, and the top dude gets to mate with all the girls while the other guys are genetic leftover. It just makes so much evolutionary sense for it to be like that. All or nothing is how nature devised the mating game for males.
/r/MGTOW16/08/17 04:21 PM
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b-b-but then how will i masturbate?
/r/MGTOW16/08/17 12:10 PM
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Its weird somedays i rationally think about it and conclude what youre saying, and other days its like i can feel the collective conscious vibrationally shifting toward the memes : alt right, mgtow, 80/20, etc. The singularity moment in the future when internet and the collective mind fuse may have something to do with this , but idk i just genuinely like thinking about this stuff and being a part of it. Exciting time to be alive no doubt, even if we all end up dying anti-climacticly in some cat…
/r/MGTOW15/08/17 06:00 PM
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Enjoy my time in this slice of consciousness that is me. Live comfortably, learn new things, experience pleasure from hookers or hookups, eat new foods, travel to different places with my two incel buddies, and leave the negativity and depression behind. Also ride my bike spring/summer/fall, its my zen state.
/r/MGTOW11/08/17 04:30 PM
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So true, why dont they just start advocating for casual sex and single motherhood. A woman could get pregnant within the week if she wanted to. Theyre just pissed they cant secure the resources, tough luck.
/r/MGTOW11/08/17 04:26 PM
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10/10
/r/MGTOW11/08/17 04:17 PM
1

Yup. Its funny cause my parents are a great example of that sort of idealized nuclear family loving relationship. Growing up I thought that was just the norm lol. Granted they are both relatively unattractive so that might have something to do with it, probably why my mom wasn't enticed to "shop around" after marrying.
/r/MGTOW10/08/17 08:09 PM
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On point m8, cheers! The hardest part for most men is accepting they didn't get to be the guy participating in the CC in their early 20's. Not going to downplay that reality, it stings, but once you accept it and get past that you see what other parts of life have to offer. No point in dwelling on that and making yourself miserable, you only get one life.
/r/MGTOW10/08/17 06:44 PM
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Exactly, everyone just needs to take a chill pill and realize that you don't need to "feel" a certain way about any of this. Just let it happen and act according to where you fall on the hierarchy, just don't submit to a superior male's attempts at dominance and everything is all good, everyone can do as they wish.
/r/MGTOW10/08/17 02:57 PM
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I think they are happy about that tbh. They just aren't happy that chads are refraining from marriage/relationships too. Also, they are likely disappointed at red pilled betas' refusal to bow down to them. But sexually its quite clear, women are enjoying the mass exodus of beta males from the dating market. This is their desire from a naturalistic base point of view; women seek the top genetics no exceptions. Societal acceptance of women knowingly belonging to an alpha's harem is the last step f…
/r/MGTOW10/08/17 02:49 PM
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This. Women don't give two shits about beta's opting out. They only care when the alphas do. Nothing new though, women have been lamenting alpha male's reluctance to commit for ages. Beta males need to internalize that they hold no leverage/power over women. Just walk away and do it for yourself, that's the only person who cares anyway, women don't care. You aren't "getting back at women" in any way shape or form, your just respecting yourself and not letting yourself get used, which takes integ…
/r/MGTOW10/08/17 01:59 PM
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They can only get to you if you let them get to you man. You cant do anything about not being chad, none of us ugly/incel types can (I am one). It sucks, but it is what it is. Chad is just another life experience, one that we as individuals wont experience, but that doesn't mean you jump off the nearest bridge. The current social paradigm wants you to buy into the dominance hierarchy full stop, they want you to put all your marbles in the genetic lottery, and then toil over the fact you didn't w…
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 09:34 PM
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Well yeah, but anything else is just lying to ourselves. I abandon the religious monogamy that the last few thousand years have forced. Its pure denial of human nature. The fact is nothing a beta does in his lifetime can make a woman sexually attracted to him. By definition it cant happen. Recently I've been of the opinion that we should teach subsequent generations the principles of sexual selection and 80/20. From there women are allowed to freely mate with the top men, knowing that this is th…
/r/MGTOW02/08/17 09:28 PM
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Well the natural state is men display and compete, women choose. But once a man realizes that the competition was decided already (genetics), the logical choice is that its not worth the investment. Thus those men do their own thing. If youre a genetic winner then you should obviously still be fucking all the women, for the sake of the species if nothing else. Being happy for chad and his escapades, even if the very fabric of your instinctual programming desires to compete and "beat" him, is whe…
/r/MGTOW02/08/17 04:30 PM
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Its two different paths, but the same destination. For frustrated incels, this philosophy is appealing because it gives them a reason to live. MGTOW is more powerful than you can begin to imagine for the lowest tier of males. Don't hate man, just be happy you your existence isn't like theirs.
/r/MGTOW02/08/17 03:25 PM
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The Balkans have already been through that, it aint shit for them. Western Europe is game over I agree.
/r/MGTOW02/08/17 03:18 PM
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Because of paths carved by people like you, future men have learned how ridiculous marriage is. Genuine thank you for bearing the brunt of exposing female manipulation. Through your mistakes we are set free.
/r/MGTOW02/08/17 01:58 PM
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Im very low on the hierarchy, I don't register to women and men inherently see me as a pussy. With that said, what can I do? The hierarchy is I'd say 90% genetic fate. If you lost, as most men by default do, then you have three options: Develop effective biases that will serve to keep you invested in the game and motivate you to looksmax aka increase your position in the hierarchy. If at the end you don't make it you'll be disappointed for wasting your time, but you likely wont regret it since y…
/r/MGTOW01/08/17 06:19 PM
2

Well considering the fact that only a fifth of all men are biologically inclined to reproduce, the "good guys" were never there in the first place. I don't even know what they are asking here...do they mean "why did nature only give us such a small portion of men that are attractive enough to bang?"
/r/MGTOW01/08/17 06:00 PM
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Yeah, I honestly wish society could just internalize this. It would quite literally answer EVERY SINGLE question/misunderstanding regarding romance/dating. I lol so hard when people say things like "ugh women are so confusing" , "who knows whats going on in a mans mind", etc. Its so patently obvious, just watch two nature documentaries and you can extrapolate everything you need lol.
/r/MGTOW01/08/17 05:55 PM
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Outcome independence is everything. It's pretty much the key take-away from shamans and mystics; just observe and let everything unfold as it invariably will. Release all thought of control, since they are illusion anyway. THAT is truly liberating!
/r/MGTOW01/08/17 05:53 PM
1

But don't you think that even in today's society there will be the admittedly rare case of a man + woman + kids (loving nuclear family) who will stay together until old age and be fully committed, i.e. no cheating? I acknowledge that its probably going to be EXTREMELY rare for millenials+ , but you have to concede that it does and will happen. I'm of the opinion that this ideal is possible, but only if you are a top-tier man and your woman would almost never run into someone superior to you. The…
/r/MGTOW01/08/17 05:25 PM
1

There's definitely a delicate balancing act. Too much of this stuff isn't good for the soul, agreed, but the truth is addicting.
/r/MGTOW31/07/17 09:40 PM
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By definition the overwhelming majority of men are losers in natures game. That is why as a man, if youre not born like one of your buddies, you already lost. If girls arent actively seeking sex, you lost. Best to not waste any time overthinking it past that, and use your life to do your own thing. Cant do much else.
/r/MGTOW31/07/17 04:33 PM
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Its two sides to the same coin. Everything is just a reaction to the knowledge of 80/20 , aka biological selective pressure for the "winning" males, and the rest being worthless genetic leftover if viewed from natures perspective. We all have to confront this fact (unless you are in top 20 in which case mgtow is foolish, just live as chad lol), as an incel though confronting it is even harder, but not impossible. MGTOW is the only logical route for an undesirable male, and that's the majority of…
/r/MGTOW31/07/17 02:05 PM
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I think it's possible, but imo only when the man is a true chad/alpha. It's these types of guys that women obsess over and don't even consider cheating on, because anyone they'd cheat on him with is inferior already. I think it's only these few, fortunate men that get to experience genuine female affection.
/r/MGTOW31/07/17 12:56 PM
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No problem man, glad to help. Just remember that life subconsciously revolves around power/will-to-power and everyone will do anything they can to gain it over others. Back in the day it was very important because others would enslave you or kill you, very base and primal, so you needed to be fully invested. Luckily nowadays its mostly restricted to economics and social policy (really just synonym for societal sexual paradigm). Its the core instinct, aside from base survival. Greater power and h…
/r/MGTOW28/07/17 03:55 PM
2

The nihilistic worldview that looks are everything and thus your genetics almost wholly determine quality of life. It extends the concept of competition as evident in nature to the workings of sexual attraction. Its the logical conclusion to the red pill, and the ultimate determinstic truth. Its most common in ugly guys, since they are made painfully aware. Usually chads and average guys never reach this level because they experience at least some desire from women. But as long as female validat…
/r/MGTOW28/07/17 03:24 PM
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She hates on betas and worships alphas, so she was like every other woman. I think this one had some irredeemable mental issues tho.
/r/MGTOW28/07/17 01:10 PM
1

All paths lead to Rome
/r/MGTOW27/07/17 12:52 PM
1

How is an aesthetically displeasing mandible all in my head lol? Its about as objective as objective reality gets. MY personal reaction to it is all in my head yes, but the reactions of others are the product of objective reality. So no, its not all in my head.
/r/MGTOW27/07/17 12:45 PM
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We too can live like a king, so long as we are honest with ourselves. We arent part of those fortunate few, but luckily we choose how to react to that fact. Spot on commentary man.
/r/MGTOW27/07/17 02:49 AM
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How I wish I could. While I'm 23, I biologically look 16-17 years old. I have an incredibly neotenous face (mostly because of my jaw), it's the kind of face thats indicative of really low testosterone/HGH exposure during puberty/development. While older women are desperate, this isn't what they're looking for. Hopefully though with age this opportunity will open up to me. BTW I don't believe in the "true love" package society sells, I know the truth and Im with you guys. The whole point of this …
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 09:48 PM
1

No m8, I couldn't. My appearance is irredeemably fucked, surgery couldn't make me average, let alone chad.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 08:34 PM
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I suspect you aren't ugly so you simply can't know what life is like as a bottom tier man, things you take for granted are completely different for me. You've probably had plenty of sexual experiences with women to fall back on, and that is a key difference between us. You're view is shaped by inclusivity to sexual experience, mine shaped by the lack of it. Our polar life experiences lend virtue to our admittedly similar, but different views. I'm not complaining btw, just observing. My whole tak…
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 08:32 PM
1

Too fucked for it to redeem my looks. I posted a comment about it somewhere below.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 08:23 PM
1

chad is the only one who holds power over women, beta males by definition don't, rather women hold it over them. I've already accepted that I'll never get that, no matter what I do even surgery.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 08:21 PM
1

nice one m8
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 06:59 PM
1

I like my pills how I like my coffee ;)
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 06:52 PM
1

LMAOOO!!
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 06:37 PM
1

I have done that many a time. I'm not deluded by what sex is, I'm realistic about it. With a girl that you've developed an emotional bond with, its undeniably one of the better human experiences.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 06:29 PM
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The point went over your head. Of course I can still enjoy OTHER things in life, I never denied that, and I obviously do that, what else is left to do lol? Opting out of the game is the only viable option for men like me, other than ending it (dumbest thing you can do), so in essence I've been forced on the mgtow path early in life. My whole point is that its not a "positive" thing, its not a good thing IN THE SLIGHTEST, its very unfortunate, but like you say you still have to make the best of i…
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 06:13 PM
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Sure bud, being ugly enough to cause unease in strangers sure is an advantage in life. At least now I never have to deal with girls desiring me. Thanks god! I'm so blessed! How could I have been so blind!
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 06:00 PM
2

Nice, Im happy for you dude, at least you know to be truly grateful for your cards in life. By definition you've already made it and can enjoy ALL that life has to offer, not just snippets. With that said, just hook up with as many girls as you can and revel in your superior position within the dominance hierarchy, don't think twice or feel bad for guys like me, it is what it is, not anyones fault. Plus if we could, that's what all the guys here that are honest with themselves would do. We just …
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 05:43 PM
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Lol I have man, I don't think you realize what the lives of people like me actually entail. If a girl isn't actively repulsed by me, then she is purposely indifferent about my existence. Like I said, when a girl looks me in the eye, I don't register as a man or sexual being, just an unfortunate, worthless collection of flesh and bones. Im not saying I see myself in this light, I know better, but I assure you that others do, and I cant change that.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 05:22 PM
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What i mean by that is the thing that only chads get from girls. It eases my psyche a little knowing that most non-alphas cannot get it either, and thats like 3/4 of men. I do have some good friends luckily, so my situation isnt quite suicide inducing, still tolerable.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 05:07 PM
1

Thats not true intimacy/lust, and ive done the hooker thing, its not worth it imo. Also im not fat, im in really good shape. You realize how shitty it is when you dont have obesity as an excuse as to why women are disgusted by you? It means there is something fundamentally wrong, in my case its my bottom 1% mandible that makes everyone i interact with shit on me in any way they can. I am the VERY BOTTOM of the human hierarchy, and no amount of self respect will ever change that. Video games and …
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 04:44 PM
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No you dont, im incel and its not a positive thing any way you spin it. You pretty much have to cope your entire life. Going this long without a shred of intimacy or emotional bond is not good for the soul, period. But what choice do i have when i was born like this. Being desirable AND redpilled is the best life situation.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 04:19 PM
3

She is right, a lot of us are in the "we didnt choose this life, but this is how we cope" boat, myself included. Its a shitty boat but it wont sink :)
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 12:31 PM
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No high standards, my only standard is she not be obese. Given my circumstances, I'm cool with overweight/chubby. The roll was bad bro, real bad. My shoulders are comically narrow and my leg bones (the ones that flare out) are really feminine. I've busted my ass in the gym to make this less apparent, worked to some degree. Regardless my face is the problem. It exudes femininity and beta-ness. Overall a soft, round, non-dimorphic, non-intimidating face. I am 23 but look 16-17. Height is average, …
/r/TheRedPill19/06/17 09:54 PM
0

Thanks man. 10 % wont make any difference but whatever
/r/TheRedPill19/06/17 08:10 PM
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Its not about the sex for me, all I want in life is to have a family with a woman who finds me attractive, physically and emotionally. With my genetic dice roll, I am blatantly precluded from this human experience. All I can do is cope by trying to convince my psyche that other there's other stuff in life that can get me to the same level of happiness and fulfillment. Deep down we all know that's not true...
/r/TheRedPill19/06/17 08:09 PM
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This all fine and dandy...but the real tragedy is when you're in a position of such genetic inferiority that all you can do is accept what you outlined, I.e. the nature of the game, and more importantly the fact that you can do nothing to make it benefit you. I'm in the "I know why things are the way they are and I accept that, but I can do nothing about it because of the absolute shit state of my genes" boat.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/17 07:30 PM
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Sadly there are many men out there with zero shred of dignity and self respect that would let her come back to their place.
/r/MGTOW10/01/17 02:59 AM
3

Skinny frame = sexual death sentence, no respect. Welcome to the club. Also the system is not bad for everyone. Its only bad for beta males who rely on relationships to get access to sex. Women enjoy sex with big dicked alphas, alphas enjoy no strings attached sex, both parties win. Meanwhile beta males like you and i are waiting till 30 so we can get a used vagina once in a while, leaving us to very lonely and depressing 20s.
/r/MGTOW09/01/17 07:01 PM
2

It seems that way because all the women are tending to share chad. This trend is increasing by the month, pretty soon harems will not be societal taboo and will be openly discussed. If you think youve seen social degeneracy, just wait until harems become a thing.
/r/MGTOW09/01/17 06:51 PM
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So true, i think someone here with $$ and extensive programming knowledge should make it. Things like hip to waist ratio, weight, breast size, ass size, and lastly cooking ability would all be criteria. A man can dream.
/r/MGTOW31/12/16 04:03 PM
2

Spot on, this is true for most things. Its only of use so long as it remains esoteric. But its a good thing that these concepts are catching on, less white knights by the day. I member browsing trp back in 2013/2014, then had to move on after more and more bluepilled dunces failed to comprehend the gist of the sub.
/r/MGTOW30/12/16 08:51 PM
1

Appearence is 90% of the battle ive found
/r/MGTOW30/12/16 08:34 PM
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To put it bluntly, it all boils down to looks. If you look good enough, youre automatically alpha, even if youre an absolute idiot. You might not get 10s but easily 6s and 7s. Youre spot on that people think taking the red pill means you know how to be an alpha. The red pill is discovering that you CANT become an alpha no matter what you do. Genetic fate is the name of the game
/r/MGTOW19/10/16 08:41 PM
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You can fake confidence and wealth to an extent but no matter what you cant fake good genetics. A handsome face is the most valuable asset a man can have.
/r/MGTOW19/10/16 08:33 PM
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Doubt it, those people are usually happier than first world slaves
/r/MGTOW19/10/16 05:13 PM
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If only....i would rejoice on that beautiful day
/r/MGTOW19/10/16 01:35 PM
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