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Nothing, unless you complain about what results I’m a pessimist, and even I know that low risk means low reward
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 05:39 AM
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Please. You’re here a lot and participate in all those n count posts
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 03:58 AM
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We don’t do “needs” in modern society. That’s the whole point, to expect a little bit beyond that, or we wouldn’t buy in
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 03:44 AM
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Both genders punch up, it’s simple self interest. What, you think laziness and pessimism should be rewarded?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 03:41 AM
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Only one devalued profession has its customers claiming that the workers loooooooooove to serve them, and of course not for money! Ew!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 03:11 AM
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We’re opposed to your delusion that anyone would tell you the truth about how they feel about their jobs when doing so would hurt their livelihood You admitted that you use lots of hookers in poor countries, so your bias is extremely clear and visible
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 11:33 PM
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You don’t tell yourself that the McDonald’s workers are enjoying yourself to justify eating that garbage, do you? Do you think that the contractors looooooove their crushing jobs that you don’t, can’t or won’t do yourself? Only men seem to think that women love this job, but not any of the others. Oh yes, and the stripper is totally into you and not your money
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 11:31 PM
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It’s too easy to and convenient blame women, so they will continue to do so. At least in the manosphere. Most normal, mature adults do not
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 06:51 PM
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I support prostitution in theory, and, as for communism, also recognize that the human cost of that theory is too high, for now
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 06:48 PM
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You guys really need to get over the Pareto principle as the excuse and explanation for everything. You’re almost as dependent on it as you are on pussy, seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 01:41 AM
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Lots of assumptions here. Hey, I can make things up too! Twice as many high school girls develop teeth on their genitals as boys — what can we do about it? 30% of teen girls would rather hump the janitor then members of the yearbook club? What do?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 01:23 AM
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Come on, you already know what dudes here are going to say
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 01:22 AM
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Kids and college students...already do this? The vast majority do, anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 01:21 AM
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Ok, then this is just straight up MGTOW. Aren’t we all familiar with that already? Are you trying to push that sub here?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 01:18 AM
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So, the solution for men who feel or are alone, unappreciated, uncared for and unloved —- is to double down and make themselves even more isolated, unpleasant, selfish and disposable? Uh, ok. You sure this isn’t incel content? Or is this some weird rich people fantasy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 12:28 AM
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Please elaborate on how the “entire society” is against men, especially since men take so much pleasure here informing us that they and they alone built all of society. Seems rather short sighted to spend soooooooo much time, effort and risk to create something that is wholly and completely deleterious to yourself, and of which you comprise 50%
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 08:47 PM
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Nice avoidance of the question
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 08:33 PM
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If you think men are not valued over women, I present to you one Brock Turner, whose actions besmirching another man’s wifey/mother/daughter were met with agreement with the statement “well, we can’t let this one very deliberate selfish and hurtful act ruin this poor poor mans bright future” Please also see athletes, professional or CEOs, tech or executives, entertainment industry or breadwinners, family for more examples of “yeah, that was shitty, but we can’t ruin their lives or cash flows”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 08:32 PM
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Sexless men can just download tinder or Grindr too, and take whatever pops up. Or, they can use the all powerful inter webs to fulfill any sexual desire they want, for a price
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 08:26 PM
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Men are very very concerned about their dry dicks and very resentful of women’s slutty sluttiness. Why don’t you care about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 04:38 AM
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Then why just mention men and not all those poor, poor sexless women? Don’t you care about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 04:35 AM
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Please google “aggrieved entitlement” Additionally, “homophobia, internalized” — “I want the thing! But it’s bad and I’m bad for wanting it! Therefore, I hate it!”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 04:35 AM
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I am still not convinced this is primarily the fault of evil women and not part of a continuing trend of less sex/pregnancies/marriage overall and increasing prioritization of online interaction/entertainment (porn, social media, video games, streaming, binge watching, etc) Since, y’know, both genders reported decreases in sexual activity
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 11:22 PM
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It’s only transactional for the inept/unfortunate. The vast majority is fine, as indicated by the fringe/minority/unsavory reputation of the pills subs, and fds, to a lesser extent
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 11:11 PM
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Yes, who are you to say what “should” be? u/spacechicken1990, you do know that women who had any sort of libido used to be considered monstrous and abnormal, right? Let’s not even get into how homosexuality used to be viewed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 09:46 PM
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I’m just pointing out that your typo was pretty easy to decipher. I’ve seen some real head-scratchers in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 09:44 PM
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“Yeah, I read the whines that make up 75% of the posts on this sub — but they are irrelevant!”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 09:42 PM
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No, the men here are very embittered by the fact that a woman “can just lie down and spread em” and dick will fall in for free. Cmon, I know you read all those whines
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 07:04 PM
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I’m practically married, dude, you don’t need to concern troll me And I have plenty of friends. You sure are making a lot of assumptions about me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 05:26 AM
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I’m attracted to a person, not a mass of parts or qualities
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 04:55 AM
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“Honest”, sheesh
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 04:53 AM
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Most people don’t tell women to “just get an escort”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 04:52 AM
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I’m not a dude, dude And I don’t need to be one to understand the thought processes behind the behavior and attitudes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 03:32 AM
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Yes, because they are having sex with you. But why should any of us on this sub take an interest in getting your specific dick wet, when we’re not going to fuck you? I have bills to pay; why don’t you help me out and wire me a few grand, hm?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 11:02 PM
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You have it backwards. Worthlessness and lack of “value” doesn’t cause sexless frustration; lack of sex causes the feeling of worthlessness
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 11:00 PM
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Why should any person other than yourself care about how and when you ejaculate? That’s your own business, and you should keep it to yourself. Should we also care about when and how you take a shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 10:55 PM
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Because it’s only about you and your personal, individual dick desires? Having children by choice is also a selfish desire Selfish desires are normal. It’s the denying they are selfish, and thus your own problem, that’s disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 07:23 PM
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I’ve never heard anyone say “Chad is thriving” or “my sex life is thriving”. We talk about “failure to thrive” (as in health) or that an individual/population is thriving in prosperity, status, occupational success, reproduction or wealth You just want to attach your individual, selfish sexual desires to general, societal standards to make them seem more important. Not impressed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 06:23 PM
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“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 04:52 PM
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Are...are you proud of this bias/prejudice? I am disappoint
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 04:50 PM
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Wow. I usually agree with you, but you certainly are...uh, disdainful of people who aren’t into sex as much as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 03:06 PM
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“Thrive” means to grow, multiple and gain wealth/prosper, and is mostly an objective description Your definition of “thrive” means “personal happiness/satisfaction”, which is more subjective Few notable people are remembered because they fucked a lot, or even if they had kids. No one cares if you slayed. Your individual, selfish desires make you neither notable nor excellent, and are your own problem/responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 02:37 PM
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Then that would be the majority of humanity
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 02:26 PM
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Women had little say in who or when they fucked until about a century ago. That’s how humanity didn’t go extinct
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 02:24 PM
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Male entitlement, aka “why don’t you want the things that I want?”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 05:31 AM
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Better options were not conceived of at the time. People didn’t just stop being assholes to their children for no reason
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 07:33 PM
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They will not, because (historical) entitlement is a helluva drug
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 07:31 PM
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The 3 date rule is the standard for a reason It’s about a month after contact, and takes enough time and effort to weed out the flakey
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 01:33 AM
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Why are we just focusing on women? Doesn’t anyone care about men and their ability to “pair bond”? Isn’t it just as important for a man to feel connected as a woman, since that’s who straight women are paring up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:52 AM
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You do know that used to be normal? Lots of kids, and they have to take care of each other? Because, like, farming and life?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:50 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 08:39 PM
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“Women like assholes” is such a common whine it spawned the term NiceGuy and the Red Pill
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 07:36 PM
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Why don’t you all read a book now and then? Or even google it; it’s really not that hard to learn about history and get some goddamn perspective, sheesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 01:40 AM
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There sure is lots of whining about it. Why don’t these dry dicked nice guys all become assholes? They seem convinced it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 01:38 AM
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Seems flakey and annoying. Especially to people who are probably having some issues and aren’t rolling in pussy. “Oh, I am dating soooooo much but can’t get a perfect person; woe is me!” Know your audience, dude
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 10:30 PM
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Dudes are just 1) envious and 2) frustrated
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 10:28 PM
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Confirmation and penis bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 10:26 PM
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If men really thought being a selfish, cruel, shitty jerk was an effective strategy, they would all become assholes and get pussy. They know it’s not, and don’t. It’s just whining, which is why no mature adults respect it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 10:25 PM
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I dunno. Do you think viewing something everyday to cause physical pleasure has any effect on a person?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 10:23 PM
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I don’t know about the women on this sub, but this post sure has clarified a lot about the OP. For instance, he sure likes generalizing, attacking the poster not the argument, and playing dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 09:42 PM
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“That’s a bold move, Cotton, disregarding a group of people just because you don’t like what they say. Let’s see if it pays off for him”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 09:17 PM
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Attack the messenger if you can’t attack the argument? You might as well call him a “simp” and be done with it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 05:10 AM
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I see. And not having been able to vote, own property, work or have control over your body up until a hundred years ago, at the earliest, is....what, exactly? Not a big deal? A cakewalk?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 04:41 AM
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When you’re claiming that “mainstream reality is a lie” a la the Matrix, as well as dehumanizing stuff like that “all women are like that”, “women can’t love like men can” and “women are the oldest teenager in the house”, you are going get criticized. Imagine if I had replaced “women” with “black people”, “immigrants”, or “Jews” in those common red pill axioms. And yet until it’s somehow not classified as a hate group
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 02:17 AM
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I’ll bet you could go on Grindr right now and find a gay dude willing to suck your dick. For free. You have heard of glory holes and bathroom stall hookups, like Larry Craig was engaging in? If an old white republican senator can get some rando action, I bet you could too
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 12:56 AM
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So “gay for pay” is not a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 12:55 AM
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Sure, it been claimed to work (and where is the unbiased proof?). Claiming it works on everyone or that you know exactly why it works is where people are going to call bullshit. Additionally, not everyone wants the things that red pill claims it delivers
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 12:51 AM
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The you should have specified that in your OP. It’s rude to try and make posts on a non advice sub all about you and your problems, instead of more general discussion topics
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 04:50 PM
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Nothing? What do I care, unless these relationships gave him mental issues? Demanding “compensation” would be pretty crass and selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 05:24 AM
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So? Was he a red piller? Are you only planning to date red pillers?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 05:20 AM
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That’s what every 15 year old thinks the first time they get rejected or broken up with. It’s the end of the wooooooooorld! I wanna diiiiiiiieeeee! I thought so too, not just once but several times Seek therapy, jeez. Stop trying to make other people your therapists for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 08:21 PM
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What drama. So then you’re saying the red pill is correct? Women can only love one man and then they’re ruined and useless? You should have more respect for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 07:33 PM
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I’m sure the answer is something along the lines of: it’s you’re fault, you chose poorly and ruined your ability to pair bond; you’re now alpha widowed and can never truly love another man; ergo, no man should ever marry or date you long term Which is fine — would you want to get involved with a man who holds these views?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 07:00 PM
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If you associate with a person because you want their company more than their genital rewards, this isn’t a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 06:50 PM
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Why do you expect Chad treatment when you’re not Chad? I don’t expect to have simps and orbiters falling all over me because I’m not hot
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 05:32 AM
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If you want to be treated as the hot guy who only needs to bring his body and dick to the interaction....then you need to be the hot guy who only brings his body and dick to the sex. Why do you expect Chad treatment when you’re not Chad? “Genuinely curious”, of course!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 05:30 AM
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Who celebrates it? Support is not proselytizing. I don’t see any Single Mothers Day, the US government and institutions don’t brag about it. No little girls are dreaming of divorce, single motherhood and custody negotiations. Movies end with marriage, not a mom by herself. Disney princesses get weddings, not child support What I do see are lower levels of social support that serve to perpetuate cycles of familial dysfunction, compared to most developed nations, and higher levels of teen pregnanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 02:30 AM
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I have never heard of these classes you are talking about. There used to be “charm school” for middle class women and general social training for the upper class in white society, but that died out long ago afaik I doubt there is actually widespread social training as you are claiming — this is probably still a class based phenomenon, if indeed it exists. Are you sure you are not confusing this with the quinceanara, which is social training for women/girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 10:43 PM
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You offer that stuff to American men and they will say, “das’ gay” Some women too, to be fair If true, I believe this is an acceptable phenomenon in Latin America because they have a more traditional, male dominated society, as indicated by the aforementioned “machismo”. In other words, the man pays and works Any Latinos want to confirm?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 10:35 PM
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Well, until solutions are found, proven and implemented, subsidizing will continue. Such is free society, and I am happy to pay for it. In the meantime, men are free to pick up the kids and all that sweet sweet cash; no one is stopping them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 10:29 PM
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Nope. This problem isn’t new or controversial —- but what is the solution? The source is only relevant because I know what he thinks is the solution, although he doesn’t say it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 09:35 PM
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Today I learned that young, hot women are truly and wildly sexually attracted to old, rich, or ugly men, and not at all to their wealth, fame or status
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 09:28 PM
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A hot guy occasionally throwing out a lazy fuck is not going to swamp the SMP, jeez. How dramatic
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 09:25 PM
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Lovely article by a very prominent and totally unbiased director of the national marriage project, the institute for family studies and the American enterprise institute. Much tradcon, very conservative, lol. Sure, and the better solution (with evidence) is......?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 09:13 PM
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Have you read your OP? Words do have meanings
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 08:23 PM
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They’re subsidizing kids. Of which women are still the primary producers and caretakers. If men became primary caretakers, they would be subsidized too
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 08:22 PM
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Your entire op and comments are riddled with assumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 06:30 PM
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You’re also “forced” to pay for police, fire, roads, military, education, sanitation, correctional facilities, communications, basic resources, retirement funds, social services, utilities, etc. Buy in collectively, disburse collectively
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 06:28 PM
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That means sex workers, not forced marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 06:25 PM
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Protected markets don’t do well in the global economy, no. That’s what tradcon societies were/are
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 06:24 PM
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Is this the red-pill-approved definition or just goalpost moving, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 06:22 PM
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If he has to put in effort, he’s not a chad, by definition. And chads can want commitment and relationships on their own, like everyone else; they don’t have to be forced
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 05:41 PM
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Blaming others for your problems is so alpha
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 05:39 PM
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Father Time is undefeated. Against everyone, ya copers! You can run, but you can’t hide You’d best plan to lose eventually rather than living in denial or clawing desperately for a few more years
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 05:36 PM
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Ok, replace with “most” or whatever adjective you like
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 05:34 PM
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It’s way less than 10%, if women rate 80% of men unattractive like you guys claim And again, why would these sword slayers bother with the bottom 80% if they don’t have to? Why fuck a 3 when you can rail a 9 with no effort ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 05:32 PM
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Most women aren’t hot enough to be regularly banging hot dudes (the only dudes worth NSA sex). “Chads” would have to be coked-up sex addicts (also unhappy people) with tons of money and free time to lay as many women you guys are theorizing in this weird scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 05:28 PM
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That’s a lot of assumptions you’re making. Such as: Chad has laid every 25+ single woman many times, regardless of her looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 05:24 PM
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Ugly/less attractive women are not fucking chad. How much dumpster diving and sexing do you think hot guys are doing? Hot guys fuck hot women, and maybe an occasional foray into the “above average” Women are just also more likely to go without; they’re not punching up en masse like red pill claims
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 08:19 AM
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“Spreading her legs” is slightly different from “wants to have sex with you”, it seems to me. And most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 07:46 AM
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That sounds like the latter option, doesn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 07:41 AM
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Nope, they just didn’t make the man expend enough effort. Don’t approach, don’t sleep with them right away. Classic dating rules are there for a reason The guys with better options and the lazy users will get filtered out, leaving you with the serious and, unfortunately, a few flakes. If it keeps happening after that, then it is the woman’s fault
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 02:21 AM
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The sexes have always had adversarial sex and reproductive drives. But only one of them historically had the power to pursue them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 06:35 PM
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The propaganda is shit, but necessary, or no one would do it. Really rich people are pretty much the only ones immune to it, or it’s at least irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 06:29 PM
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Translation: “I don’t believe that men can be satisfactory and responsible household managers/househusbands”. It’s a pretty fair judgement, based on most dudes’ living spaces
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 06:22 PM
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All you have to do is take away the subject of concern and you’ll have the answer. Is it looks? Money? Sex? Status? Social/biological role? Whatever would end the feeling of love is the “condition”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 06:17 PM
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For some reason red pillers are very concerned about pair bonding when it comes to female promiscuity, and not at all when it comes to “spinning plates”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 03:34 AM
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Good luck; you’ll need it. On the other hand, I do know a good number of househusbands, and they seem to be doing fine, at the very least
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 03:24 AM
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They already are in the market. Nobody wants to admit it, that’s all
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 03:11 AM
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Women looking for relationships do not tend to spend their time discussing and debating with people who already resent them, no. Does that sound like an effective and logical use of their time and energy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 08:35 PM
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People’s intentions just muddy the waters, that’s all. Validation, attention, sex, fetishes, relationships, therapy, marriage, children, etc — these are all in the mix and are often antagonistic and shifting. Simplifying it is dishonest and inaccurate, because people are complicated and illogical
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 06:26 PM
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Women also get married to and have relationships and kids with these men, just like they would with any other man. That’s being judged on a non-genetic factor — success
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 06:14 PM
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They are in the marketplace. Or are you claiming that red pill men are only looking for relationships? Because that’s not what they claim; quite the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 06:00 PM
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Then old, rich, ugly dudes should be sexless
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 05:56 PM
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Then why are they all over dating sites?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 05:55 PM
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A marketplace is the aggregate of “sellers” and “buyers”. Again, words have meanings Is everyone there after/offering the same thing? I think it is obvious that they are not
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 05:48 PM
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“Modern sexual marketplace” Do words have meanings?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 05:42 PM
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This is awesome; you guys are telling on yourselves Bookmarking this
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 05:33 PM
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Twitter is a gold mine for insanity. I am disappoint that you guys are taking it seriously What’s next? A gender-related flat earth, vaccine or chem trails thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 05:31 PM
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If sex is just a bodily function that affects your psyche not at all, as many men here assert is true for them and most men, then sex workers are a legitimate part of the marketplace
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 05:28 PM
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I don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 05:23 PM
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That would be for either gender, ya know
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 05:23 PM
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If blue pill didn’t work, the whole world would be here and in the red pill, and we would be openly discussing relevant topics across all media
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 11:10 PM
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“Dies surrounded by family and friends” or “dies estranged from most of family”? Do you really need it spelled out for you? Unless you think family/friends are shitty
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 11:05 PM
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People are diverse and care about different things. Life is all about the human heart in conflict with itself
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 11:03 PM
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Naw, it’s tv/movies. Women like relationships and can never get enough of them, no matter how unrealistically they are depicted
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 10:54 PM
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Someone who does good, like Fauci or that black guy who befriends KKK members and converts them to nonhate. Or that Turkish chef who makes videos for charity
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 10:51 PM
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Yes. I’m blue pilled. That’s what blue pill is — neurotypical, mainstream culture
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 10:49 PM
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Because online thoughts are real feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 10:48 PM
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Fewer kids, more robots. Is this a problem? I don’t think so
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 10:47 PM
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Anything to let people talk about themselves, I guess. Between this and “love languages”, it does indeed tell you something about a person
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 10:46 PM
2

How about you judge the person and not the count?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 10:44 PM
2

That’s pretty much all dudes here care about though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 10:42 PM
1

No, no, where would we be without overgeneralizatjons and absolute statements? We might actually have to go out and take control of our own lives!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 10:40 PM
0

Let people make choices. Even bad ones
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 10:36 PM
2

Why is virginity shamed by immature people and children who don’t mind their own business? Fixed that for ya and answered it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 09:03 PM
1

So, you want us to do your research for you, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 08:04 PM
5

A pussy is a thing to be used for their pleasure, according to dudes. So the more users, the less appealing it is. Yah. And you wonder why relations between the sexes is strained
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 04:39 PM
2

No. I looked for someone who was decent (i.e., offensive things didn’t come out of their mouth hole) and that wanted to be around me, not my pussy. It took a long time but I got there several times
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 04:35 PM
1

You’re going to have to draw a more direct relationship between single sex spaces and marriage/dating. I don’t see it, especially wrt dating
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 04:34 PM
1

Shhhhhhh; you’re ruining his “blame the women” narrative!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 09:22 PM
1

“Needlessly paranoid”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 09:21 PM
1

The more socially aware one? Is this not logical? On the other hand, “awareness” doesn’t necessarily convey an advantage
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 09:19 PM
1

Causes? Same as they ever were Consequences? Hard to say. Depends on whether they prefer existing or not
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 09:16 PM
8

“That’s just, like, your opinion, maaaaaaaaan”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:16 PM
3

I’m sure having a million descendants really matters to Genghis Khan now. Just donate to a sperm bank if your life is so meaningless, dude. Yay, fulfillment!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 02:42 AM
1

I guess men never divorce or cheat or do anything wrong in marriage, eh? And divorce is only justified if the man does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 01:23 AM
3

This would be fine if they didn’t also whine about being lonely or thirsty. Have no empathy, get no empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 09:02 PM
2

Sorry. How about — hey dudes, don’t get married! It sucks, ok? Don’t do it!!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 09:00 PM
3

I was still physically attracted to these guys, if not insanely so. Nothing wrong with the sex, although they had to be cured of their porn training I was very unattracted to being disrespected and used, hence the dumping. You want a maid, you pay for it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 08:44 PM
3

They know. They don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 08:25 PM
2

That’s fine, as long as you’re all prepared to continue to be isolated, lonely, exploited, suspected, and avoided. Give nothing out, get nothing back
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 07:59 PM
5

Nope. “Not a manchild” means he doesn’t expect me to be his mommy/therapist/maid/personal assistant. Those things are repellent “Not repulsive” means exactly that. Clean yourself regularly and dress like an adult that understands social niceties, considerations and requirements
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 07:53 PM
4

They seem pretty high already. Men on this sub complain about them constantly , as OP has demonstrated
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 07:49 PM
1

You really think people over 30 with kids don’t consider such things?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 07:47 PM
2

I know you won’t believe me, but most normal people have neither the time nor the energy to treat relationships as antagonistic and hostile interactions. People actually do like companionship, affection, reciprocation and generosity
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 07:45 PM
1

I can kinda see why a lot of them have problems with women and society in general
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 07:42 PM
2

So, a man who has 12 kids, none of whom he has a relationship with or sees, is a winner, while someone who has been a mentor/father figure to 12 kids, sees them often, and has close relationships with them is a loser? And men wonder why they are lonely and uncared for...those genes you prize so highly won’t mean a thing when no one wants to be around you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 07:34 PM
3

When you’re rotting in the ground, will your dna’s continued existence give you comfort, status and meaning ? Of course not, cuz you’ll be dead
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 07:29 PM
2

And they are. That’s why most stepparents are boring, unsexy, middle-aged divorcees with kids, not some weird rich childless young dude getting fleeced by a young psychopath with a half-dozen baby daddies. Also, marvel movies are fiction, ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 07:27 PM
2

I’m fine with them resisting the concept that giving a shit is a good thing. They’ll get what they give
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 07:21 PM
2

It’s going to not piss her off. I don’t fuck slobs that piss me off
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 07:17 PM
3

Nope. We want someone who we can stand to be around, that’s all. The only reasons I ever dumped a man was 1) him cheating or 2) he became a manchild My criteria are 1) not repulsive 2) functional adult 3) not a jerkhole
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 07:16 PM
3

No, I’d feel responsible for whatever happened to the kid(s)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 07:13 PM
3

That situation is rare among functional adults. Today, most people tend to marry people of similar background and experience. I don’t know a single person, of either gender, who got in a one-sided step parenting situation Dudes really don’t like kids, huh? I feel like most mature adults don’t hold existence against children or blame them for what their parents did
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 04:42 PM
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Friends, family and acquaintances? I can see the point if the man has no kids of his own, but that is vanishingly rare. Most step parents are older than 30 and have their own kids. I mean, divorce happens. Are these people never supposed to marry again?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 04:41 PM
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Interesting, if depressing, answers. Pretty much all the stepdads I knew married women whose kids were already grown and also already had their own kids. Nobody saw them as losers or what have you, just people looking for a new or better partner
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 03:16 PM
3

Yes. You do know how much men love their porn, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 03:05 PM
2

“Social” If you put “sex” in front of “media”, you’d be asking the same about men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 10:56 AM
1

Lol at the idea that men care what a woman thinks, aside from whether she wants to fuck him or not
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:35 AM
1

Apparently women ‘hurt’ men constantly by not wanting to fuck them and minding our own business
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 03:30 AM
2

The red pill, like many philosophies/strategies, is basically “I want my cake and to eat it too” That’s why it will never become mainstream or successful
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 03:22 AM
7

Yes Class still matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 02:59 AM
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Like I said, you can make hay. You’re still at a pretty good chance of spending your last decade or two alone. That shit is overrated and no guarantee — striving to make and maintain relationships, prudent financial decisions and investments, and cultivating skills and interests are much better than a bad partner who usually dies before you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 02:09 AM
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Nope. They claim they want love, affection and respect. Loser women don’t get that either
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 02:04 AM
8

Most women do die alone, married or not. Marriage and childbearing are not proof against that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 01:24 AM
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“The sub offers little advice to no advice on making women more attractive or self-improvement to attract the men of their dreams but rather convinces them to take an all or nothing approach and hold out until a tall,handsome,attractive, high-earning, beta-alpha, simp Chad” In normie speak, this translates as “screening out fuckboys, users, and man children”. It’s true there are not enough adults to go around, but I have a feeling most woman would rather be alone than stuck with a big, fat negat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:44 PM
0

Got some stats and data to back up these sweeping and grandiose assertions of yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:31 PM
1

No, men will just tolerate anything for pussy. Not our fault the bar is on the ground
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 07:30 PM
1

Yes, these are not thoughts and feelings which should be emulated and admired, and most people know this. So, uh, why is it a problem that immaturity is obvious and disdained?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 04:14 PM
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This is a weird take on gender dynamics which seems cobbled from social media and the under-25 crowd. Surprising considering the source, but oh well PSA to the young uns here: these attitudes are not normal among mature adults. Save yourself some side-eye and just say no
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 03:32 PM
2

You ever seen old photos of peasant women? Yah, hot, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 04:35 PM
3

Blue pill is mainstream society and attitudes. Why does nobody know this? Has the Matrix already passed into obsolescence?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 12:21 AM
3

Yes. That’s all the red pill and PUA terms are — repackaging
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 12:20 AM
2

It’s envy and resentment, as one would expect https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/k3glez/why_do_so_many_men_feel_resentful_to_single/ge40ml1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:49 PM
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No, they just like to extrapolate the women that their tactics work on as representative of all women. Which is good; inaccurate info saves a lot of women from dealing with them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 04:17 PM
5

This arrangement is so prevalent throughout history I can’t believe that anyone would deny this
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 04:01 PM
2

Why is it assumed that the woman made the bad partner choice when lying, complacency, manipulation, exploitation and opportunism are things that can be performed by either gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 02:09 AM
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Naw, they just don’t like being reminded that a woman had sex with another dude, got “punished” for it, and is still unrepentant and unchastened for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 02:06 AM
1

Just like “being an asshole” is a common boy phase, “vicarious experience of assholery, excitement and general rebellion” is a common girl phase. It is stupid but normal
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 05:13 PM
1

We don’t need to, so we won’t
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 05:08 PM
1

No. I’m merely pointing out why male n counts are....not to their satisfaction
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:44 AM
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The second biggest reason guys have low n counts is because they are trying to fuck women, not men It’s also the third, fourth, and probably fifth reason too
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 06:46 PM
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The biggest reason average dudes have low n counts is because they are trying to fuck women, not men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 06:46 PM
3

Almost every dude I had sex with tried some sort of porn move It varied as to how dependent they were, however. Unable to come without resorting to porn sex? About a third
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 04:55 AM
2

Social animals are susceptible to social norms and pressures is the point. You do know all the weird things that used to be considered hawt, for both genders, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:51 PM
1

If they are slim with few curves, that is a child’s profile, not a woman’s Boobs, butts and bellies are postpubescent fat distributions
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 06:47 PM
3

Most actresses and media women (reporters, spokeswomen, etc) are closer to model body types than pornstar body types — tall and thin rather than curvy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 06:41 PM
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Sure, it’s not the primary body type of desire, but it has made the sexualization of it widespread and accepted. When you’re fed an increasing stream of adult women with mature faces but childish bodies in mass media, it will have an effect of some kind
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:25 PM
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Men are attracted to bodies, not brains or personalities. However, I blame the fashion industry for normalizing pubescent bodies (ages 11-13) as objects of desire, as this is the “model” body profile. This was evident to me embarrassingly late, and I feel it is not normal sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 04:26 PM
1

“There can only be one captain”, is how married red pill likes to put it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 07:49 PM
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Men don’t like losing, that’s all
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 12:29 AM
7

This would be fine if men didn’t subsequently whine about being lonely and unappreciated. Don’t care about people? Then no one will care about you back.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 05:20 PM
2

Lol, these post comments are exhibit A of “(female) companionship is cheap and of low value” See fellas? You’re not exceptionally persecuted, just differently persecuted
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 05:12 PM
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VR and sexbots. They are already doing it, pretty much universally, with porn and video games. I don’t know a single guy under 30 who doesn’t play video games, and we all know about porn
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 04:33 PM
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Good for me and not for thee Having your cake and eating it too We all vacillate between selfish and altruistic incentives. That’s life
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 04:28 PM
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“Massive cocks” would spear my internal organs, holy jesus. We’re not just virtue signaling when we say we don’t want to be log jammed, you know
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 08:18 PM
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You’re free to argue with women that expecting the same outcome from sex as a man (an orgasm, if it’s not obvious) is entitled. I don’t think it will be convincing, but I do love it when dudes try to tell me that — saves me tons of time
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 04:55 PM
1

That doesn’t mean pussy will rain down though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 08:58 PM
0

“High value” just means “not desperate” + mature, functional adult No need to get stressed out over it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 05:12 PM
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Men believe it does, so it is Granted, most mature adults manage to function anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 04:53 PM
4

So, the word “women” was too boring for you guys, huh? Well, I guess the lizard brain needs to be entertained and feel unique....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 02:44 AM
1

“That interest is extremely fickle” Yah, well — when the risks are bad sex, pregnancy, and bodily harm, you’d be fickle too And if you’re saying offensive, perverted or insensitive/selfish things, I don’t know why you’re surprised that “interest is lost”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 06:20 PM
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I dunno guys; how would you act if the people you wanted to sleep with were bigger, stronger, more aggressive, more violent, way hornier, and into weirder and less pleasurable sex acts than you? Would you be jumping out there willy nilly, throwing your availability around? So mysterious!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 06:17 PM
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Of course I don’t blame men for having a sex drive. In fact, I don’t even blame them too much for lying about it — it’s to be expected What I will criticize them for is complaining, pitying themselves, and getting angry over the perfectly logical consequences that result from lying
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 10:01 PM
3

Or, my favorite: “Why are women so suspicious and cold to me?” “Well, do you think they want to fuck you if they are friendly and outgoing?” “Of course! Why would else anyone smile or say something nice to you?” “.......” The lack of awareness, it burns. I’ve had this conversation with more than one guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 06:26 PM
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“I wish I had a friend to talk to/why doesn’t anyone want to be around me?” or “I’m having a rough week/breakup/death of a family member/resurgence of childhood trauma”. Any of this sound like “hey, can I stick it in you?”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 06:15 PM
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Sure. It really seems too imbalanced right now, although I think it’s only logical that female emotions are more tolerated because they tend to be less destructive. A little more female repression and male expression would be welcome, but I have no idea how to make that acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 06:11 PM
3

If you ask me to show you “kindness” instead of “enter an intimate sexual relationship with me”, is it my fault that I interpret it as a request for “kindness” and not an “intimate sexual relationship”?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 06:01 PM
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Then please explain how these words and concepts mean “sex”. Because you said that when I show men the “kindness” that they request, that means I want to fuck them Like, here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/jvyen4/q4men_are_you_satisfiedcontent_with_your/gcuk3po/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 So, are you saying I am lying when I say I don’t want to fuck them? Or am I lying when I say I was kind to them? Or, does kindness have an explicitly sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 05:52 PM
1

So only women try and see if you are lying? Men just passively accept stuff at face value? That’s not what the red pill advocates or claims, is it? I’m pretty sure they direct their adherents to test women too, since they are adamant that all women will lie at any time for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 05:49 PM
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I was kind and compassionate to them. It’s not my fault I gave them what they asked for. Since they wanted sex, they should have asked for sex. Please note that in the dictionary, the definition of “kindness” is not “sex”. Neither is “sex” the definition of “concern”, “advice”, “support”, “friendship”, “companionship”, “assistance”, or “compassion” Words have meanings
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 05:37 PM
3

Admitted to what? Dudes were the ones asking me for kindness and understanding, when what they wanted was puss — it wasn’t my fault that they lied
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 05:33 PM
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All that intimacy and stuff is irrelevant if they don’t want to fuck you. So it’s better to get that part settled first. You won’t feel disappointed, and they won’t feel used and lied to
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 05:26 PM
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Ok, then they should just ask for sex and not kindness or trust, since that is ultimately useless and unwanted. It would be way more efficient than this bs about compassion or understanding, don’t you think? Less disappointment and frustration, at any rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 05:08 PM
1

Well it does take two to tango, and luck/chance is always a thing, so — 33% is my responsibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 05:07 PM
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I love how OP thinks women don’t have eyeballs or brains that can perceive who usually does most of the work in childrearing No one had to tell me that marriage and childrearing was a way better deal for men — it was blindingly obvious, despite all the propaganda. Examples were acted out in front of me every day
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 05:00 PM
1

You’re assuming that these “men who are terrified of getting a woman pregnant” are the same population as “men who act as fathers”. Considering how universally men complain about condoms and try to get out of using them, it seems like the former population is quite small
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 04:54 PM
1

Who is stopping you? Is this a freeze peach complaint?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 04:50 PM
2

It’s an issue in that I’m tired of hearing men complaining about being lonely, friendless, avoided, mistrusted and thought of as pervs....when in fact they are pervs who only want one thing from women and thus should be avoided and mistrusted by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 04:45 PM
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I must be too old, because that still sounds ridiculous. Pretend you don’t want me around? Bye, I got better things to do. I’m not going to waste both our time playing some dumb game of chicken, “do you really want me?” or “who cares less?”. Sounds awful and dishonest
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 06:01 AM
2

9 Gross adult men are everywhere, and very bold. And lots of people never bother to call them out, or make excuses for them, so it continues on
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 05:55 AM
1

Well yes. The lack of violence and destruction does skew standards a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 05:36 AM
2

I’ve ghosted men for being bigoted, angry or pervy. Is that a “test”, really? I’ve turned men down because I didn’t want to fuck them. Is that also a “test”? Your outlook on life and interactions with others is very.... interesting. Maybe replace “shit test” with “preference” or “responses” and things won’t feel like such a battle. Just a thought
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 03:08 AM
2

Socializing? Why is this weird? Excluding men from my life would be weird and notable, not to mention rude? I don’t seek out their companionship, I just go out, engage in activities or talk with friends, colleagues, relatives, neighbors, and the like? I am really baffled as to why this is an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 03:02 AM
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I don’t know what kind of people you’re dating, but most adults with jobs and responsibilities don’t have time or energy to play stupid games or conduct ridiculous “tests”. Save that for your enemies and your job
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 02:56 AM
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Because men are people, whether or not I want to fuck them? They don’t cease to exist just because I don’t want their dicks I don’t like talking about my feelings and hate being indebted to people, but recognize that others do — particularly because they claim that they do. I extend men the courtesy of believing what they say
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 10:01 PM
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Some women still take men at their word when they say they are sad and feeling uncared for and mistrusted, and “won’t someone talk to and be nice to me!?” It annoys me when men play on women’s pity and kindness, and lie when what they really mean is “won’t someone jump on my dick?” Still, some men here have claimed that they appreciate and like interaction with women who aren’t going to fuck them, so it’s hard to write off man pain completely. Or maybe they are just lying
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 06:06 PM
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Does your gf not have the agency and character to turn down people she doesn’t want to fuck? I’ve never had a problem with that Crushes also always go away, and then you still have a friend. Crazy, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 05:39 PM
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(We currently don’t offer any of that because you think that. Think what?) ——-> “Women can't and won't offer any of these if she is not sexually attracted to you” (But if men stopped shoving their dicks into any crack of opportunity, maybe that could change So what then? What is it going to happen? Will it magically make you more interested in men you don't desire sexually? If so why? What do you really want to do with other men anyways?) ———-> No, the whole point is it’s platonic interaction. D…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 05:27 PM
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Yeah, that’s the point. We currently don’t offer any of that because you think that. But if men stopped shoving their dicks into any crack of opportunity, maybe that could change
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 04:12 PM
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We don’t do “duty” anymore. It’s called “basic politeness/decency” Frankly, society and its services are supposed to provide what used to be considered “duty”, for everyone’s benefit. I definitely prefer it. Men don’t have to be bothered or risk anything, and I don’t have to feel obligated to fuck or defer to them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 04:09 PM
1

Acting like an adult and not a child? You know, like the same for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 04:04 PM
-1

“Shit test” Aka, being lazy or demanding It’s amazing that there happens to be words already available to describe these things
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 04:03 PM
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That’s not a shit test. That’s garden-variety laziness. You’re not special
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 03:59 PM
10

Some of us don’t get orgasms from other encounters much either, so we’re used to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 03:56 PM
10

All those responsible, mature deadbeats and baby daddies....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 03:55 PM
0

And yet women are blamed when men don’t give a shit about kids or lowered birth rates. Woman/womb shaming didn’t work in Singapore, nor in Korea/Japan/Taiwan, and it won’t work here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 05:35 AM
3

I wish I could do those things but then I would be called a cocktease
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 05:29 AM
0

I guess nobody in your life gets married, huh? All your teachers, co-workers, relatives — all single and childless, right ? Don’t worry — I was like you at 20. Who’s married? Who has kids and family? It might as well be another world, right ? I seriously can’t imagine worrying about this at age 20 — either now or when I was that age
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 05:21 AM
3

“School” also means college/university
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 02:13 AM
7

I know who was sluttin around in school. Both genders. They’re all married, some of them even to each other
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 01:42 AM
9

Yes. So it’s nothing to do with stretched out, diseased vaginas and all about possessive use
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 01:39 AM
8

There’s complaining all over the manosphere about being some chick’s “emotional tampon” without sex payment. Or the lovely strategy of “a shoulder to cry on becomes a dick to ride on”. There’s plenty of men on this sub that believe that women are useless except for sex, childcare and service. I wonder if they will complain when they get older that no one wants to be around them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 01:24 AM
1

I’ve stayed friends with people I wanted to fuck, without fucking them. Ain’t hard, it’s just a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 07:37 PM
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“Whether you act on them or not” Yah. Das’ da point. People do this all day every day, it’s not remarkable
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 06:49 PM
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It’s also pretty logical, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 06:21 PM
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It’s not that big a deal, ya drama queen. Most of us have self control, logic, and priorities
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 05:53 PM
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Yes. Our sex drives are less indiscriminate than men’s; thus, greater discrimination is to be expected. Women who wandered off looking for strange, random dick usually got raped and killed, so only us non-rando-fuckers are left
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 05:50 PM
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Normal teens are dumb and not looking to impress adults
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 05:49 PM
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And people will continue to call out hypocrisy, which will always be more convincing and appealing than defending selfish desires
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 05:48 PM
1

For our sex drives, relative to men, our standards are entirely appropriate
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 05:18 AM
1

It’s logical to be concerned, but also petty and self-centered
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 05:16 AM
1

So? How does that affect you, mr. long dead and gone?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 05:14 AM
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You could pull an Argentinan junta move and raise the child in direct and destructive opposition to its paternal legacy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 05:07 AM
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Because it’s old and tired. Yes, we’re not virgins anymore. That’s what happens when you get to choose your spouse and optimize your committed/married sex lives and sexual compatibility. If you want to go back to “lie back and think of England” and explicit betabux, you can buy yourself a wife, I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 04:44 AM
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Anonymity
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 03:11 AM
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I know plenty of people who lost at both and love life all the more for it. Makes whiners look all the worse
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 07:20 PM
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It’s the same problem men have had, or in fact all male organism have. Carrot, stick, or death
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 06:54 PM
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Yes. Have you talked to normal teens? Not the media savvy ones or those gunning for Ivy League universities — joe and Jill average teen
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 06:52 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/jtlyeb/do_most_women_these_days_want_to_get_married/gc75nnr/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/jtlyeb/do_most_women_these_days_want_to_get_married/gc6vtjb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/j8rhbn/cmv_the_only_way_a_man_that_struggled_with_dating/g8ects6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 06:36 PM
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I know a lot of younger men who definitely prefer their bros, porn/anime and video games to women. Dating and making an effort has collapsed now that they can get food and pretty much anything they want delivered to them, including an orgasm and entertainment They don’t seem particularly bothered by sexlessness yet, but who knows?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 05:51 PM
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I was a total wallflower until I moved up in the workforce in my twenties. Do I get pissy that people are shallow and treat you very differently depending on the outer layer of your skin? No, that’s life and I was an idiot to think otherwise OP also admits that he treats older women poorly as retaliation
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 05:48 PM
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The people who want to live will live. The rest will use it as an excuse to do nothing and hate everyone. You know, just like it is now
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 05:43 PM
1

What if I looked like a really hot woman but actually had a dick and didn’t tell you? Or, if I was born a man, had top and bottom surgery to look and function like a woman, and didn’t tell you? What if I said I was 5’6”, 120 lbs, but was actually 150 lbs?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 05:22 PM
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TIL that men never turn women down, ever, nor think negatively of them, ever
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 05:17 PM
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Why are voluntary offers of things we don’t want women’s problem now? No one’s forcing men to spam hundreds of profiles, open with dick pics or gross comments, or the very common “hey”. Unattractive behavior doesn’t spark attraction, what a concept
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 05:08 PM
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No hard and fast rules, sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 05:04 PM
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It’s your sex organ. For all the whining about child support and dirty whores, men sure seem reluctant to wrap it before they tap it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 05:02 PM
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Lots of women dressed up even if they didn’t go out, just to share or because we already do that in regular life. Men were free to do likewise but didn’t. What’s stopping a bunch of bros from doing it, hmm? They seem to do just fine cosplaying, for example
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 04:58 PM
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Only if you’re actually weak
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 04:52 PM
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Yes, we know you think so. Are you actually going to discuss anything other than how your viewpoint is right and everyone woman’s is wrong? You should probably change your post to a CMV then
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 04:32 PM
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With perfect and universal use. So, you want women to be the condom police on top of everything else, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 04:29 PM
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No, you would still be straight of course. How else to experience sexual attention that you don’t want backed by the threat of violence ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 04:26 PM
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“Anger that they deprived you of things”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 04:25 PM
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Nice try https://www.emedicinehealth.com/ask_how_often_do_condoms_fail/article_em.htm People have a neat little trick — it’s called lying —- to get what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 04:24 PM
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Just imagine you wake up tomorrow, and half of all dudes are gay. And not just any 50% of dudes —- the bigger, meaner, fitter, louder, angrier, more aggressive ones. How would your life be different?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 04:21 PM
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As long as they display this contempt openly it’s all good
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 03:54 PM
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Anger, as he describes in the OP, strikes me as a toxic feeling to be taking into a relationship with another human being. As well as the entitlement— being “deprived” of what’s rightfully his, by malicious, evil beings making choices!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 03:46 PM
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—Women are/should remain in public places in every aspect of their relationships? —-“I’m single/my profile is accurate/I want a relationship/I’m not dating other people” —-“Thanks for the sex; see ya never, whore/slut!” —-Every pregnancy is totally intentional and planned and contraception never fails ever /s You know, I kinda doubt you’re actually open to discussing or learning here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 03:38 PM
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Safety Deception Exploitation Pregnancy You know, the same as men, but with higher risks to their physical well being
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 03:30 PM
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It is. Check user post history
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 07:27 AM
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Women’s physical attractiveness comes mostly from education, social pressure, awareness, effort and technology Fixed that for ya On the other hand, I acknowledge that men can’t apply these principles. Especially height — I think it’s dumb but women seem hell bent on caring about it, no matter how humiliating and sad the reason
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 07:22 AM
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Are these women who want you now the exact same ones who rejected you earlier, OP? Because this revenge fantasy/obsession with “getting even” is kinda disturbing, and doesn’t seem to be helping you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 07:11 AM
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He seems to be a troll based on post history
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 07:07 AM
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Hot dudes? They said all sorts of stuff, from “why don’t you want to fuck me!? All of (x country) wants to fuck me! I’m doing you a favor!” to “I wanna put it in your butt”. I’m sure it worked on some women Normal guys? Anything from groping me in front of their SOs, joking about/defending the celebrity rapist du jour (Kobe, Mike Tyson, Louis CK, gamers, you tubers), calling people “faggots/fags/faggoty”, using the n-word, going on anti-Semitic rants over mild comments (“why do you think I’m Jew…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 05:51 AM
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The men here claim you can do or say whatever you want if you’re hot
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 10:36 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ju04d6/q4allwhat_are_you_thoughts_on_ghosting/gc9nalo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 You do recall my original comment? Which you voluntarily responded to?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 05:57 PM
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I’m not going through the effort of reporting irl death threats to the police, or mental illness to adult protective services. Obviously you don’t care about a word I’m saying because I specifically said these were all face to face interactions See, women? Men don’t care or listen!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 05:45 PM
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Nope, too much effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 05:41 PM
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That’s how they cope with the fear of cheating and break ups “Them grapes was unloyal/picky/unreasonable/fickle anyways”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 05:38 PM
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Nope. Pretty much every man I’ve had a crush on has eventually said/done something offensive eventually. Result: feelings torpedoed; end of crush! No one is better at cockblocking than men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 05:35 PM
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They will also fuck way down. Waaaaaaaay down. I’ve seen it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 05:32 PM
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You’re also dealing with at least a 60/40 male/female ratio on these dating sites. On some sites are women are outnumbered 2:1 by tsunamis of thirsty dick. Same as bars and clubs
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 05:04 PM
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You spelled “pussy” wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 04:33 PM
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I’m sure you have talked and joked about it with men who have done it or have seen messages from men who do. Unless you grew up homeschooled or with the Amish. It is all over Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 04:16 PM
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I have never fucked or dated a man based on looks and nothing else
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 04:10 PM
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I like what I grew up with. Asian or mixed race surfer boys Have I dated any? No
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 04:08 PM
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I dunno, when is rejecting the mainstream social narrative a good idea, OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 04:07 PM
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Men already know their nature. Women are the ones who delude themselves about or deny what men are really like, mostly because it’s too painful or uncomfortable
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 03:59 PM
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Nope. Men will really fuck anything. And you have seen gay men and women and their dating behaviors, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 03:45 PM
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This is either a troll post or you are 15. Everyone knows about male internet behavior, and you think women are the problem? There are entire subs for posting gross online messages from men, including dating sites. Numerous men on this site have larped as women and confirmed what pretty much everyone knows — men are indiscriminate horndogs that would sell their own mother for nudes of a person they will never see naked in real life https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/5wjjhn/i_impersonate…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 03:41 PM
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What’s the gotcha here, OP? Only a minority of people would be happy doing one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 03:31 PM
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Block someone when they are screaming in your face and threatening suicide? Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 06:26 PM
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It doesn’t matter, because people have eyes and can see stuff. For example, I can see that my never-married/divorced straight male relatives/friends/acquaintances/colleagues are looking pretty rough the older they get. Why try and make the unwilling see? Or even worse, pressure them to marry? Let them reap what they sow
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 05:25 PM
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Unfortunately, anytime I’ve been responsible and considerate instead of ghosting, the outcome is worse. Sorry, but good deeds never get rewarded
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 05:21 PM
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Look, you might want to find out his story and comments before deciding that. I don’t think his life and choices can be realistically applied to most of humanity
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 05:18 PM
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It doesn’t matter if you refuse to take responsibility or deny the consequences of your fetishes/preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 03:15 PM
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Cake, eat it too, is the answer of course. And whining
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 03:10 PM
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Well then, we can all be whiny losers together! Waaah! Misery loves company!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 05:24 AM
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Then, divorce. Problem solved. Or don’t get married. Problem avoided
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 05:23 AM
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The ends justify the means, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 04:06 AM
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Abuse and dysfunction make people happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 02:19 AM
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Many times these mistakes are harmful to kids. They should be remedied by divorce before kids get abused, traumatized, killed, etc., or learn to repeat the dysfunction modeled for them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 01:28 AM
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Immigration, culturally or geographically, is a human trait
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 01:21 AM
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Only if the right dude smacks into my windshield. Not counting on that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 01:20 AM
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Do you think these men are dumb enough to let it all hang out before the kids are born?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 01:19 AM
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They want us all to be miserable together! I despise that small minded despotism
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 01:17 AM
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Nope, I still think marriage should less frequent, as should reproduction. I think that weddings shouldn’t be a thing anymore, and licenses should be more expensive — although weddings still might be necessary for public/social shaming What I will push back against is blaming women for the divorce rate. Marriage sucks overall for women, so divorce is necessary If men can be dumb about sex, women can be dumb about love
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 01:11 AM
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I wonder why traditional marriages aren’t as popular, hmmm? It’s so mystifying
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 12:31 AM
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The divorce rate doesn’t indicate widespread male dissatisfaction
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 12:29 AM
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Yup. No second shift for me either!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 12:27 AM
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You can leave your culture. I did
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 12:26 AM
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Mistakes should get fixed ASAP
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 12:13 AM
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Marriage didn’t make dysfunctional parents better, just bound them more tightly and unhappily
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 12:02 AM
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Are they really dying and sacrificing now? Do you work for society and not for yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 12:01 AM
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Uh, ok. I’m fine, dude. I mean, those sentiments exist, particularly on this sub, but they aren’t common or normal in the gen pop
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 05:58 PM
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Well, there is a sex tube on the upper part of a woman, but most dudes here probably would forego that one because it’s used to communicate inconvenient woman thoughts and feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 05:40 PM
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You do have eyes to observe the people around you, no? I wasn’t talking about your experience, since it’s obvious you don’t have much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 05:37 PM
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I’m pretty sure you can scroll through the posts and decide for yourself whether they reflect reality and/or functional interpersonal relationships. Perhaps you have not seen many of those in your life; I wouldn’t know
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 05:25 PM
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You do know where you are, right? This isn’t r/happiness or r/love This is a fringe sub discussing a rather, uh, contentious, amoral and negative philosophy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 05:23 PM
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The inequality isn’t caused by marriage. Inequality causes marriage decreases
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 05:20 PM
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Yes, yes, we all know those are the important parts of each gender — sex tubes for women, bio tools for men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 05:18 PM
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Compelling argument, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 05:15 PM
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The main reason people here don’t like marriage is divorce, apparently. Ergo, if divorce was illegal, they would like it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 05:13 PM
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Children alone is better than children + adult child
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 05:09 PM
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The government is made of people, did you know this? The government also doesn’t care about your relationship. It cares about your legal involvements and your kids
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 05:07 PM
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Yup. Nobody here wants to discuss that. I think it’s all great — less marriage, less divorce, fewer people
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 05:04 PM
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Yes, a lot of people are realizing that they don’t like who they married. This realization is good, in my opinion. Efficiency!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 05:03 PM
1

Do you wish it was impossible for you to divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 05:02 PM
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Less marriage, less divorce, fewer people mucking up the environment and causing problems — its great and should be the future
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 04:53 PM
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Sure, but it’s not as disrespectful as baldfaced, direct lying. Omission actually takes your feelings into account, I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:44 PM
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Lying. That’s all. Everything else is an informed decision
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:09 PM
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Lazy, man child dependence, aka “make me a list/nag me!” Hell, no; you’re an adult too That’s literally the only reason
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 04:47 AM
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I have It’s not difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 08:43 PM
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Why? That was my experience in my family, which I saw replicated in others. I did and still do resent being treated differently, and especially inferiorly. I wonder if your sister sees your childhood the same way. And what if your son doesn’t like sports, catch or playing outdoors, hm? And if you only have your opinions because people are nice and praise you for it, then you like praise and validation, not your beliefs. Go ahead a throw an aggrieved tantrum — says more about you than me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 11:02 PM
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They mean “having a relationship” aka, spending time together and enjoying companionship Sounds like you just want a sex doll to boink and put back in the closet, or a hooker who spreads and leaves. Both of those options are currently available to you; why don’t you try them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 06:53 PM
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Ooh, kids love it when you treat one differently than the other! Makes for warm and close familial relationships! They definitely do not hold it against you later in life when you might need help or want companionship
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 06:43 PM
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That’s a standard mgtow/incel talking point. They joke about it, but it reflects their attitudes quite closely
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 06:40 PM
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No. Because that part barely matters. Just don’t repulse me with bad hygiene, teeth, grooming and fashion I’m fit but not pretty, smooth, charming or stylish. I have no right to expect any different
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:45 PM
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Why should I advise women to be better than men? We’ve been forced, pressured and expected to “be better” for all of history. Let men take a turn
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:37 PM
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That’s weird. Why would the hotter sister want to fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:01 PM
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When you’re surrounded by hot dog launching machines, indifference feels refreshing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 08:59 PM
0

Better give up then! It’s hooooooooopeless!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 08:57 PM
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Then stop complaining about it if you wouldn’t do it yourself. Pretty simple
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 07:14 PM
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I’m low libido, introverted, fitter than average body but average/below average face, blunt/not bubbly personality, take care of my own shit, have normal/functional relationships, have moderate work success, and play sports and instruments I’d be okay with myself, if nothing else, and have no moral qualms about being celibate or paying for services. I’d be a better man than woman, honestly. Freedom of movement, no bio clock, no domestic drudgery or expectations. Sounds great !
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 07:09 PM
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I’ve seen this question many times. The answers are always “a gold digging slut” The hypocrisy is awesome. They never say “a nun”, “a good wife” or “a chaste prude”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 06:54 PM
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Women get creepy, pervy, invasive, servile, insincere, strings-attached sexual attention their whole lives. Frank indifference feels downright refreshing after that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 10:56 PM
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Doesn’t change that it exists
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 07:13 AM
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My extended family sucks, and his isn’t much better. Disagree big time Why would I want a big family ? So they can pressure you, push their opinions, and throw their age/professions/number of kids around like it makes them better authorities? No thanks There’s a reason child abuse, incest and financial coercion/abuse is rampant in small communities. It’s just like real life, but with less space and fewer options
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 10:14 PM
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Why not all three? Even here, you guys just wanna generalize, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 06:04 PM
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Yes. You guys really don’t know how Reddit is viewed by the world, huh? This has nothing to do with income, it’s being aware of reality
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 06:03 PM
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If you know anything at all about humanity, this question was answered when you hit puberty. Only children, autists and the mentally disabled get a pass on not understanding this PSA to people on here: questions like this is why the pills are and always will be a minority philosophy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 06:02 PM
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No. If you don’t grok that people make decisions with their eyes, first and foremost, you’re either willfully obtuse or delusional. Even children understand this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 06:00 PM
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“Even if one tries to have open honest conversations about it, why is it hard for men to understand that hypocrisy and double standards are unattractive?” (I hope they never do, however; it makes weeding them out pretty easy)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 04:31 AM
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Wow, so surprising that men are thirstier than women? Who would have thought? It’s so unexpected!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 04:27 AM
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Because they’re sex-starved, restless, aggressive and edgy — you know, young? These tendencies aren’t gender exclusive; young people get into all sorts of weird shit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 10:04 PM
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Are you saying we should imitate the antics of attention-seeking, low-class, dysfunctional people, as distorted by a tv production? No thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 08:25 PM
1

OP wants some sort of guarantee. There are none, and never have been
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 07:25 PM
5

To point out that you aren’t uniquely oppressed in history
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 06:03 PM
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Lol, do you think pre-Modern humans didn’t talk to each other? Logically, smaller communities are even more gossipy, judgy and cruel to transgressors. Entire families used to get wiped out for slights against “honor”, of which female bodily integrity was a big part. Even today, “revenge rape”, which targets men via their female relatives, is a thing in parts of Asia, Africa and the Middle East
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 05:46 PM
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Dear Modern Men, There has never been a Golden Age when you couldn’t be falsely accused of rape. There’s claims of “lyin’ wimmins” and “false accusations” all over ancient literature. You know, like in the Bible n stuff. So no, it’s not a new thing. And men used to get killed, physically punished, exiled, enslaved or castrated if the woman was considered valuable enough (a virgin) or her family was sufficiently powerful. See? Improvements! Sincerely, Women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 05:34 PM
1

I just follow the old Muslim maxim “Trust in Allah...but also tie up your camel”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 05:29 PM
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It’s not in his self interest for women to be cautious. Therefore, they shouldn’t be. Ya dig? It’s pretty simple
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 05:18 PM
2

And why exactly do we need more people on this earth?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 05:54 AM
2

There’s no law against hypocrisy. And there’s no law against getting called a hypocrite. Freedom!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 08:51 PM
0

What is given can always be taken away. Only a dum dum or the willfully naive place all their eggs in the basket of human decency. I certainly don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 08:39 PM
0

No. Being dependent is shittier than working, and also stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 06:42 PM
1

That’s because no other women have found you attractive and safe (very important) enough to run the risk of having casual sex with you. There is very little incentive for women to initiate contact because of the risk of stalking, harassment, rape, shaming, and violence — let alone shitty, selfish sex. If men didn’t do these things, women would proposition way more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 06:38 PM
1

I like eating, sleeping under a roof and having stuff and services, so yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 06:22 PM
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Yes, as long as they didn’t bother anyone, a dude could abandon his birthright/place and do quite a lot. Seek training, jump a ship, join a rich persons service or military, join a religious order, wander and trade, startup his own business....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 06:21 PM
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Men don’t care that we don’t want sex/servitude. They want it, and that’s all that matters
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 03:26 PM
5

The choice was between fucking and poverty/predation/condemnation. Still is, in many places.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 03:25 PM
3

Bold of you to claim those men were monogamous, and not preying on any women they could get their hands on who was unprotected. Servants, children, prostitutes, poor people, neighbors — all could have been easily raped, blackmailed or silenced with little effort. Why else do you think so much infidelity and incest is indicated in most people’s genes?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 03:21 PM
1

Why is work unfair?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 03:20 PM
2

So, in other words, no, you don’t care about that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 03:19 PM
3

We still have war, poverty and hard work. We don’t have forced marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 03:18 PM
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I’d love to work and have the freedom of movement and power over my life choices, instead of having to spend 50 years regularly fucking someone I don’t want to, who doesn’t care about my sexual pleasure or feelings, and who considers me a physical and psychological inferior, a servant, and a baby maker. Let’s not even throw in the ruining my body and energy carrying, birthing and caring for a dozen kids, half of whom will probably die before maturity. Yeah, sounds lovely. And that’s just my rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 03:16 PM
2

So? It’s the reason men love. You claimed male love is unconditional when it clearly isn’t. Women definitely know this, which is why your claim and the red pill sound delusional to normal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 03:12 PM
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The condition of male love is sex. I didn’t say it; the men here did https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/feby10/sex_as_the_be_all_end_all_of_male_needs_in_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/f6p5iz/do_men_only_care_about_sex/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/eufsx8/q4men_would_you_ever_consider_taking_part_on_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 10:48 PM
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If sex is so super duper important to men, as men here constantly assert, to the point where they would rather lay down and die without thirst, then they are deriving the ultimate benefit from love. So very altruistic
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 10:46 PM
1

I suppose 15% of the military doesn’t count except as hired vagina then? And it’s just for no reason that the military dangles all these material goodies and discounts in front of enlistees, hm?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 08:50 PM
1

Sure you can understand other people’s feelings and experiences. Empathy is a basic function of sociability, which humans need to survive. You know that the woman sprayed you because she was scared, because you are a man, and men have both the ability and the motivation to hurt women and have done so many times in the past. It’s neither mysterious nor inconceivable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 08:43 PM
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The sex industry, literature, porn, personal experiences, the crime rate, and the words that come out of men’s mouths make it pretty clear how much they want to use our bodies and worship our outer wrappings. And unlike men, vulnerable women listen and believe what men say and do, if only for our own safety and bodily integrity If I can’t personally experience male lust, I surely experience how that lust affects everything I do and all the women around me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 03:18 PM
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Dude, we know. It doesn’t make us want to fuck, and I thought you guys didn’t want pity sex anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 06:23 AM
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Dude, we know. Tits and ass under 20. Doesn’t mean we’re going to agree or go along with it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 06:21 AM
2

Yeah? It’s still not going to make us like it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 06:18 AM
5

But you think they’re puss offers? Why would we lead you on; that would be cruel? Unless, it’s not really compliments you want....but sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 06:17 AM
2

That’s what the men on here think, not me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 05:17 AM
2

Men “don’t care, had sex” Women don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 05:16 AM
1

Well then take it up with parents
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 05:15 AM
0

My understanding is that women are shitty, boring, and make horrible friends. Who’d want to be wanted by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 10:47 PM
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Yes. Because average isn’t worth shitty, risky casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 10:44 PM
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I’m afraid women have eyes and brains and can see/read about who is buying sexual services, doing most of the raping/assaulting/murdering, watching most of the porn, molesting most of the children, perving on teens, fucking infants, animals, objects, holes and dead bodies, accosting them in the alleys, catcalling them on the street, sending them unsolicited dick pics and lewd comments, groping them in clubs — and then blaming it on “what she wore”, “leading me on”, “how else am I going to get la…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 05:32 PM
0

“Sex is a need” “Men need variety” “Don’t care, had sex” “If they can crawl, they can assume the position” “Men are as faithful as their options” “The most beautiful woman in the world has a guy who is tired of fucking her” Unlike men, when the opposite sex says what they think, I believe them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 05:01 PM
2

Naw, once sex stops poisoning their brains it gets better
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 03:35 PM
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Because men have cultivated the notion that they are indiscriminate horn dogs incapable of not turning down pussy. Ergo, a loyal man who cares is a big deal
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 03:34 PM
1

How can they blame their own thirst?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 03:33 PM
1

If you want lots of divorce when the sex sucks ass, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 03:32 PM
2

And yet they blame us for everything
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 03:31 PM
1

Competing is occasionally nice. Not doing it for hours every day unpaid
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 02:55 PM
1

1/3 of women went on a date at some point in their lives to get free food I’ve done it in high school, when chaperoning my younger sibling. Was it cruel and exploitive to have a 16 year old pay for my fries ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 02:51 PM
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Right, everything on Reddit is true. Especially the dramatic, over-the-top stuff that that is guaranteed to piss people off and get lots of attention. No one is out to get you, dude. Stop flattering yourself. The vast majority of women, and people, don’t have the time or energy to waste fucking people over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 06:53 AM
1

The male sex drive is basically unsatisfiable, so you guys will be unhappy no matter what
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 03:35 PM
2

It’s better because older men aren’t as sexually selfish or demanding
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 03:23 PM
1

It’s because “I didn’t get mine, so fuck you”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 03:19 PM
2

Because sex is good for men and bad for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 03:12 PM
2

I know you didn’t read it, but I already answered your question
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 07:23 PM
5

I thought we were supposed to be “not picky”? Can’t win either way, can we?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 07:03 PM
3

Wow, you really think we’re all lying, huh? Good talk, if ultimately useless
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 06:53 PM
3

You can watch a man’s behavior before he moves on you. Sometimes you even know them beforehand. I promise men don’t just materialize out of thin air and proposition chicks If you really need specifics: being handsy/crude/sexual, cracking cruel/sexist/rape jokes, ranting about Jews, gays, sluts and black people, general cocky douche comments and behavior (see: frat boy), self-pitying woe-is-single-me jags
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 06:40 PM
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Do you? I get the feeling you don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 06:25 PM
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Bigotry, selfishness, cruelty/meanness, negativity, pushy perviness. The usual
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 06:15 PM
1

Yes And I have turned down men (not many) who were more attractive than me but were assholes Most average-ish women aren’t looking for Mr. Right. We’re looking for Mr. Not Shitty
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 06:08 PM
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Sure, if he’s not an entitled dick about it and knows I’m not attracted physically I’ve dated guys I’ve been “meh” about all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 05:59 PM
1

People are lazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 05:46 PM
2

If you’re going here for relationship advice I don’t know what to tell you. It’s not a wise choice, to put it mildly
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 05:44 PM
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Yes. It’s a low-effort screening device. That’s the whole point of spamming “DTF?” to hundreds — the one response they get makes it worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 05:42 PM
1

Their standards for fucking are lower, and higher for relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 05:40 PM
2

It’s rational if that’s what you want. Selfish, but rational. Why is this hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 05:39 PM
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No. Just say “leaders” and “followers”. There’s nothing wrong with normal words, except I guess they don’t make people feel special and cool
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 05:38 PM
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This is not a sub filled with loving, generous types, if ya know what I mean. So don’t extrapolate onto humanity, for your own sanity. Most men have better things to do than be pissed all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 05:31 PM
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Pretending to treat a vagina machine like a valued human being is probably more effort than these guys are capable of. Having to pretend to care about what they think, respond to their interactions appropriately, and not let your impatience, boredom and contempt show would be like having a shitty customer service job.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 05:29 PM
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Maybe you only interact with women to get coochie. Seems presumptuous to assume that all men think like you. Either way, it’s a cowardly and deceptive strategy, and is rightfully looked down upon by both genders. I certainly don’t respect it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 05:22 PM
1

Sure, but that act is harder to pull off.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 04:04 AM
2

If these guys are orbiting instead of living their lives or going after what they want, that’s their time and effort to waste. No one is going to feel sorry for vultures circling for scraps
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 04:03 AM
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Awww, I thought we were having a discussion, you troll! Shame on me!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 06:35 PM
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I see functional men all around me. This sub is not where you go to find them Most men don’t see women as an annoying impediment to vagina. That’s a truly sad way to live
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 06:33 PM
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Why are you obsessed with “orbiters”? Most average, over-30 women who are mentally stable don’t have them, and I don’t see why that’s women’s problem either. Orbiting is a male choice, and if we were to tell them to fuck off we would become the bad guy. Most normal, mature men aren’t orbiters either — they have better things to do with their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 06:20 PM
1

They do, but women usually won’t do anything for sex like a man will, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 06:16 PM
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The whole reason men created the red pill is because they previously believed, “if I’m nice, she’ll want to fuck me” and now realize that’s not true. I thought this was common knowledge on a pill sub. I didn’t say this; they did Please, pretty much all girls/women initially believe lies like “people are nice when you are nice”, when it’s really “you want some dick with that?” I know I did, and suffered the same sad realization multiple times
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 03:23 AM
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Just like men initially believe that “if I’m nice she’ll want to fuck me”, women believe “if I’m not slutty/sexual he won’t want to fuck me” None of it is malicious, contrary to the popular beliefs here, although it seems like some women really don’t want to face certain truths
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 03:00 AM
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No, because any fuck is a win.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 02:57 AM
1

Men are notorious for overestimating their looks and overall attractiveness https://psmag.com/social-justice/louis-c-k-assortative-mating-men-overestimate-level-attractiveness-83197 This is logical, because the rare “punching above your weight” success makes it all worthwhile from an evolutionary standpoint. Same as fucking uggos. Offspring are offspring, after all
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 02:56 AM
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Women will do anything for love, men will do anything for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 02:53 AM
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As long as men like fucking as many women as possible and the gender ratio remains 50:50, men will be thirsty. I don’t make the rules
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 11:03 PM
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It’s not our fault men will fuck anything Correction, both genders will fuck anything, just for different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 10:29 PM
1

If men treat me beyond polite decency, they want something from me that I am not willing to give.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 10:18 PM
3

So, your first post was just trolling, huh? Are you trolling in this one too?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 09:58 PM
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Almost everyone cited the golden rule of reciprocity, which is the foundation of society and the basis of most human interactions. I guess it’s not that obvious to you Edit: oh, I see you were just trolling people with this post anyways, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 09:56 PM
1

Obvious questions annoy me, and annoyed most people on your post
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 08:47 PM
1

I care that he’s not a couch potato and has a basic interest in life. A human slug is not attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 08:34 PM
3

Society needs and disproportionately rewards risk-taking, resilience and ambition, as it should. I say this as a risk-averse introvert
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 07:43 PM
2

It’s just self interest. Or do you like only being able to choose black cars?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 07:39 PM
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These men want guarantees or they ain’t gonna do it. Serious entitlement. You don’t see hot women walking around saying “I look awesome and work hard at it; I want a guarantee that I’m not going to get used or cheated on or I’m just going to gain a stone and go back to wearing sweatpants all day!”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 07:33 PM
1

Few people over the age of 30 care. It’s quite immature after that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 07:32 PM
1

Shoveling all emotional support and therapy onto a single person is not loving. For either gender But I see mostly men rejecting friendships, other relationships and general mental self-help as frivolous, boring, “gay”/feminine, weak, and the like. I’ve never seen a woman on here say, “I have enough friends”, which is a common male sentiment. I remember there some very bitter and desperate posters here who were just incensed that women wouldn’t like them....and it turned out that they had no fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 07:24 PM
1

If you don’t play, you automatically win!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 07:22 PM
1

Why do you need us to talk you out of being a selfish ass? According to red pill, that’s hhhhhnnnnnnngggggg to ladies. You’d be swimming in puss! Please, for the love of god, stop whining and be the horrible person you always wanted to be!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 07:21 PM
1

Sure. Reasonable, mature, respectful circumstances. Like most people
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 07:18 PM
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Young people will always be horny, energetic, and fucking And men will always be hornier than women So, I don’t see any of these massive changes you are asserting, and don’t foresee any in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 07:16 PM
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Just because you’re miserable doesn’t mean everyone else has to be, Mr. Crab
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 04:48 PM
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Of course, if there was no way to protect the men, and especially if I had kids. Men made us like this by killing all the resistors, regardless of gender, throughout history. The ones who would die rather than surrender....are dead with no descendants
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 03:42 PM
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Losing weight is hard and boring. Also, it’s well known and not novel and special So of course red pill, and society in general, don’t want to talk about it. What a bummer
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 12:38 PM
3

Then you’re getting played. Who does dinner/movie dates anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 10:40 AM
3

Why bother having sex? You’re just going to want to do it again, often with a completely different person?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 04:54 AM
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Why eat? You’re just going to shit it out anyway Why bathe? You’re just gonna get dirty tomorrow Why live? You’re just gonna die anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 08:20 PM
2

Looks matter, but not enough for women to become as horny as men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 08:18 PM
2

We don’t have the luxury of killing and violencing our way to personal fulfillment, and it takes a village to raise a child, so...yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 06:06 PM
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Because men are just as good at being female companions as women are at being male friends Also, that study is bollocks. Don’t flatter yourselves
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 04:34 AM
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“You never respect anything you put your dick in” is how some dudes have phrased it here. Sex is devaluing to to women and valuing to men is the basis of all gender discrepancies regarding sex. The Madonna/whore complex, virginity commodification, body count obsession, the double standard, on and on it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 07:02 PM
2

Because we all settle
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 02:40 PM
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You can insist all you want that women like to be restrained, curtailed and dependent, but we do have eyes and brains and can see what happens to women in those situations. But feel free to keep trying; there are already large subsets of women who do embrace that stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 04:11 PM
1

“Hypergamy” does not mean “looks” or “standards”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 04:04 PM
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There’s several reasons, but it doesn’t really matter. Men are the ones who made us this way through biology n shit
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 05:02 AM
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I think most women know but try to put this unpleasant reality from their minds Or, they are consciously trying to model better behavior/relationships for men instead of giving up on them. If women don’t expect better from men then who will?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 06:35 PM
1

If men were better partners, more women would be willing to be breadwinners
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 09:11 PM
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“Women are lying about lying. Because they’re liars” — men on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 03:59 PM
1

I’m just tired of women being their own worst enemy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 04:45 PM
1

Well, how do they get around it now ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 04:41 PM
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Yes, it’s how they are incentivized to see women by biology. It certainly says nothing about reality, morality or practicality, but women should stop pretending it doesn’t exist. It’s fine to condemn it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 08:02 PM
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Then extra caution and vetting for bdsm/rape fetishists will be the unfortunate price of justice for people who are violently raped and assaulted. Of which there are many. Is that not worth it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 07:39 PM
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Well, I take great pains to, but I’d say the vast majority of women are not willing to cut these men out because “love” and “feelings”. Which was my original point
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 07:37 PM
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I’m not shaming. I am pointing out that some perfectly valid fetishes mimic, recreate, or approximate serious crimes against human beings
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 06:56 PM
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All you have to do is watch porn to learn that But thinking that PPD is a cross section of functional adult males is, uh, probably not accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 05:56 PM
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The fact that you’re surprised that men are varied and not a monolith?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 05:52 PM
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People can resist their natures, particularly if encouraged to by their environment. Like I said, that’s why we date/cohabitate instead of choose our partners out of a catalogue or who our parents present to us. You have to see how much a man has internalized that viewpoint, and also consider how much risk you are willing to take on. I mean, sorry, but you have to put in the effort. Just like a dude
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 05:47 PM
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There isn’t really, but a surprising number of rape accusations are treated as invalid because of what the victim wore, who she fucked in the past, how traumatized she does or doesn’t act in the trial, and so on. Those doesn’t sound like solid legal reasons to me I also think the claim of “rough sex” or other bdsm activities should almost never be allowed as a counter claim. Sorry, but when your fetish closely mimics actual crimes, you’d better be VERY careful about indulging it. You need to sig…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 05:34 PM
2

Well then you’re fine, aren’t you ? You didn’t specify any of that in your other comments
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 05:28 PM
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We all have selfish, irrational and hypocritical desires. Some people indulge them, others do not. That’s why we date, to separate the shit from the diamonds
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 05:24 PM
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The widespread male desire for an untouched sex object while not being untouched themselves, plus the dehumanization of used sex objects, is hypocritical, selfish and rude. That is why it is hidden in society. When it results in things like widespread female oppression/guarding/restrictions/mutilation/abuse (to protect virginity), dowry/honor killings, and retaliatory violence, rape, murder and assault because of said dehumanization, it is also destructive
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 05:06 PM
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Yes, there are large exceptions, but the basic socio/cultural script hasn’t changed ever and continues to affect our lives: men do stuff; women sacrifice, cut back, yield, give, nuture and care. If you buy into that, you are vulnerable, but most women still appear to be doing just that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 04:56 PM
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We all have selfish and therefore rude and inconsiderate desires. Suppressing, hiding and redirecting them is basic humanity 101/social animal existence. It’s not difficult, uncommon, or an injustice
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 04:50 PM
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Denial is for the weak, lazy, scared, desperate or powerless. It almost never solves any problem, and almost always makes them worse. I do not respect it, from either gender, especially if you have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 04:45 PM
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The truth is better than a lie. Women can’t afford to be deluded about what men are like, although I know it probably is a survival adaptation
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 04:39 PM
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Any man who values the person and not the pussy doesn’t, or at least recognizes it is hypocritical and isn’t proud of it There are fewer men like that than women think, but more than the population of asexuals
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 04:31 PM
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That’s what men think, not me. They say this all the time. Women just don’t want to hear it, and I find that pathetic. Women cannot afford to be deluded and in denial It’s also disrespectful to deny what people say just because you don’t like it or don’t want to hear it. I don’t like it when men do it to me Now, I know all men don’t think this, but the ones who do absolutely do not hide it. And women still date, marry, and defend these men!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 04:17 PM
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Woman is thing/possession; unused/new thing is better than used thing. I don’t know why women can’t accept this idea. It’s pretty simple and straightforward
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 03:55 PM
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Oh, it’s just the “my Nigel”/stand by your man syndrome. Also, they just seem unwilling to accept the way a lot of men view them. Anytime you see a thread here where men are being honest, there’s tons of women trying to talk them out of it and insist that they don’t really feel that way. It’s almost as disrespectful as men here who insist that women are all lying, malicious, parasitical cunts who don’t know what they want. I just feel that women, being physically weaker, poorer and usually saddl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 03:11 PM
1

Victim mentality does annoy me, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 02:30 AM
1

You must be very important and special people
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 01:38 AM
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Only the more sexually indiscriminate and obsessed gender would think that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 12:30 AM
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I find it completely logical. Men want something from women. Why wouldn’t they want to control and dominate the thing they want? This is also the basis of the Madonna/Whore dichotomy — sex is bad, selfish and degrading, so you can’t empathize with or love the person you do it to or you couldn’t go through with it. However, I find women way more delusional about male sexuality, particularly about men that they personally know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 12:24 AM
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You forgot the second half of that statement, which is equally important — “for the purpose of raising children”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 12:20 AM
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Do you think the world is out to “get you” or something ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 12:19 AM
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Like “Chads”, “hypergamy”, and “alphas”, “sluts” can be neither definitively identified nor comprehensively condemned, because they are too useful as sub bogeymen For all I know, I could be a “slut” or have fucked a “Chad” or “Alpha”, the way they are discussed here
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 08:15 PM
1

Then why discuss it in the context of present society?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 06:41 PM
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Nagging and bullshit is in the eye of the beholder, isn’t it? But guess what, you don’t have to interact with any one you don’t want to! Free will is awesome Again, I would love to be wrong about sex bots. I hope they bring peace and prosperity. But knowing humanity, that is not likely at all
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 04:50 PM
1

Oh well, kids come first. Marriage over, then. Try to have better desires and needs next time
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 04:46 PM
1

Really? Sure sounds like many of their stances boil down to “humans evolved to do this, therefore we should still do it/it is ok”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 04:45 PM
1

Sexual/relationship desires are not automatically functional or beneficial to either a marriage or children. They are just selfish desires, and can be good or bad
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 04:18 AM
-1

I am equally mystified as to why dudes go out and date women when they hate them so much, won’t use in-person sex workers when they provide exactly what men want without pesky reciprocity, and don’t just sit at home and jerk off to the countless and varied sexual services available remotely So, while sexbots appear to be what men want, they’ve pretty much proven me wrong every time, so I’m going conservative with this judgement
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 04:06 AM
1

Sure. And if you can’t pursue your desires that in a way that is beneficial/doesn’t conflict with your responsibility to your kids, you should divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 03:11 AM
0

Part of being a good parent is modeling good relationships. If you can’t do that, you should end the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 03:05 AM
0

OnlyFans users are sex workers, as are porn stars. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_work But I was thinking people who do hands on services, like hookers, erotic masseuses, strippers, sugar babies, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 03:01 AM
3

That’s it; let the hate flow through you....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 12:46 AM
2

Most people are not extractive sociopaths and perfectly able to treat others the way they wish to be treated. Perhaps you may want to reevaluate your life if you are surrounded by malevolent parasites?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 12:42 AM
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Are you trolling? How can you not get gold dug when you’re trying to date/marry women who have no work experience/training or life experience? They will automatically be dependents The only young, untrained, uneducated, inexperienced women who would have earning potential.... would be sex workers
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 12:39 AM
1

It’s for kids, i.e., bigger than your grubby sexual/relationship desires
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 12:36 AM
1

Desperation is unattractive and no one respects free stuff; film at eleven
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 08:50 PM
1

Polygamous cultures have paternal investment (see: Sharia countries, the Inuit, Native Americans, Polynesians, Papua New Guinea, Australian Aboriginals, the Sami, Amazonian tribes). They just also have more intratribal violence and war, with women as the impetuous and the prize
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 05:15 PM
1

This is modern life. Those concerns are as dumb and outdated as believing that martyrdom is awesome, your partner should be your bodyguard, your partner is a helpless, delicate flower, or your partner is at serious risk of death. In other words, it indicates delusion, not sociopathy, which is almost as bad
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 04:49 PM
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No, it’s for the reasons you listed, and because women want, or are socialized to want, children. Also, for social fulfillment. I think it’s stupid too, although probably a genetic predisposition just like the male libido But monogamy never would have come about if most men were opposed to it. It’s the way to get a stable life and not have to constantly look over your shoulder for spears and clubs
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 04:36 PM
5

Wasn’t that disappointing? I was not expecting that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 04:16 PM
3

Really? There were negative consequences? Do tell
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 04:15 PM
3

The mods need a break, man. Don’t you believe in vacations?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 04:14 PM
8

I wonder how much racism there will be this time around. That was way more awful than the incel content
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 04:13 PM
1

I believe this post is building up to a gotcha “double standard” argument. “If men are expected to die for women, the least they can do is fuck us when they don’t want to and in ways they don’t want to!” Edit: checked OPs history, and I rescind that judgement. It’s just all the “women should do anal with everyone” posts flying around lately made me assume
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 04:03 PM
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If porn and sex workers wouldn’t solve it, why would sex bots? No, immersive virtual reality will be the solution. We already spend most of our day there already
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 03:55 PM
1

Acquiring and protecting women property used to be a very expensive endeavor for men, despite the fact that, according to dudes on this very sub, fucking said women property is their singular purpose of existence. So, men eventually decided to live and let live instead of hurting and killing each other for women property. That’s what monogamy is and why they would go through the trouble. It’s for male benefit, not female
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 03:52 PM
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There’s lots of resentment that women won’t fuck men as often and in the manner they would like There’s lots of resentment that women are taking jobs, education, achievements, attention and resources away from men There’s lots of killing, assaulting, and raping of women by men, much more than the reverse There’s lots of dispagement of female jobs, interests, hobbies, entertainment and preferences by men So, no, it doesn’t appear to me that men like women very much. The only thing they do like un…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 03:48 PM
1

It’s just basic golden rule stuff, is that so hard to understand? “If you can do it to me, I can do it back to you”. You do know how people used to live, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 05:19 AM
3

If men wanted to kill all women, we could not and would not be able to stop them. They are certainly capable of it, don’t you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 05:15 AM
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To protect “their” sex possessions/female genetic descendants from rape/murder/harassment by other men. That’s what civilization is, an agreement between men to not destroy each other’s stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 05:12 AM
2

I could add pedo, I mean, “ebophilia”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 05:08 AM
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It’s because women are useable sex objects to be hoarded and that are diminished by sex. This reality pretty much explains all male sexuality. Not just the Madonna/Whore dichotomy (i.e., “sex is bad for women and awesome for men”), but also n-count/virginity obsessions, “mate guarding”/sexual violence, ageism, the double standard, purity culture, sexual score keeping, pushing for sex acts, rape/harassment/stalking, polygamy, “frigidity”, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 04:44 AM
1

Depends if he’s a hypocrite about my looks
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 04:15 AM
1

Well, one day when you or your skinny descendants are twitching your last, these newly normal bodied people will be stepping over your emaciated corpses and ruling the earth. So we should keep them around, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 09:14 PM
1

Yeah. I mean, what are you doing right now? Talking and discussing, or staring at a screen?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 09:11 PM
1

“We are all just mindless animals with no choices or responsibilities”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 09:10 PM
3

No, wait, come back!! Whatever shall we do without you?!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 09:09 PM
1

Oh god, those things make me nauseous. How can you be so in love with yourself? hurk Gender reveals, engagement parties, when will it end?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 09:07 PM
3

Congratulations, OP, you’re a normal person! Now, you should go live your normal life or just stay for the entertainment
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 08:55 PM
1

Youll see when you start working. Or even in college. Or, even better, try and buy a car or hire a contractor. Oh yessssss
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 07:58 PM
2

Yeah, and I want a million dollars and no rape in the world. I’m not going to get either, I don’t expect to get either, and I don’t complain about it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:07 AM
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“How can I make a woman do stuff she doesn’t want to without sounding selfish or hypocritical? I know! I’ll slut shame her; that will definitely do the trick!” Lol that men think this makes them look good or reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 08:54 PM
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People care about what other people do, believe it or not. Even men. That’s the whole “performative” part of “performative masculinity”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 07:12 PM
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Remember, ladies, having consensual sex that you both enjoy is cheap, unhealthy and low effort! Mutual satisfaction is McDonalds and should only be indulged rarely and with regret/guilt Again, dudes, if making your partner happy/not suffer is so awful.....maybe relationships aren’t for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 07:08 PM
3

Are humans social animals or solitary animals?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 06:49 PM
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Sex workers, duh. Or are you too good to pay for the sex you want so badly? Most of us normal people don’t think we are awesome enough to get free shit thrown at us at our pleasure. Like many a man has noted, “you’re not paying a hooker for sex; you’re paying her to go away after”. Doesn’t that sound like exactly what most dudes here really want?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 06:05 PM
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You can get sex without a horrible, horrible relationship. Why not do that instead of complaining? Whining is not very attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 05:16 PM
1

Sounds like you’re doing some mental gymnastics, justifications and emotional labor on behalf of these dudes. I’m content to let them wallow in their self-centered mindsets, because they obviously are aware of the alternatives but have willingly and deliberately rejected them. Why should we “fix” them, especially when they are so set on their paths?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 04:57 PM
1

Seems rather disrespectful to not believe what they say. Don’t you get annoyed when dudes here call your opinions irrelevant, exaggerations or lies because they don’t want to accept them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 04:47 PM
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“Maybe a relationship isn’t something for you” I don’t know why guys can’t admit this, but are fine with declaring that all women are good for is sex and that women are boring and terrible. Who’d want a relationship with such a horrible being? What would happen if they just did what they wanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 04:44 PM
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Have you seen male OLD photos? There are definitely non-weight training improvements many guys could make, like curating their photos better and taking new ones where they look like they give a shit about basic presentation. But it’s not going to get them an instagram model. It will just not repulse normal women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 04:17 PM
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No, because then they will get pissed when it doesn’t translate into instant success. Don’t need any more whining
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 04:07 PM
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As long as you’re not hurting anyone, why would people bother to care if ugly people get laid? I certainly don’t have the time or energy to oppress ugly people who fuck by......doing what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 03:41 PM
3

Most women do. But we don’t make a big stinking deal about it and pretend we were lied to
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 03:40 PM
1

Why don’t you want to believe men when they tell you what they are? I believe them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 03:38 PM
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Humans are social animals. We will always care what others think, unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 03:35 PM
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No, men know this already. That’s why they are bitter and pissed off, because women are never going to be as horny and indiscriminate as men. This is why every other post here regresses to “we need to round all the women up and take away their rights” or “the world will revert to a primitive state of chaos and violence and then I will be happy”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 03:33 PM
1

As long as they’re still fucking, why would anyone care?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 03:28 PM
3

You can just say “people have different standards”. You haven’t said anything new
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 03:27 PM
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I’d like to sit on my ass all day, sleep 13 hours, binge entertainment, shove fat and sugar down my throat, drink, drug, have people serve me, swear like a sailor and judge others viciously. That’s my real self. And guess what? That’s not good enough either Boo hoo, you have to think of others, what a tragedy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 05:23 AM
1

See, I don’t understand why women can’t accept this. It’s pretty obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 05:17 AM
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Nothing, you’re doing fine. It’s just annoying that so many men here share your viewpoint but don’t seem to accept that sex workers are what they are seeking
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 05:15 AM
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Then hookers should be more than enough for you if all you require is a pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 04:38 AM
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Citation needed And if so, they should definitely stop entering committed relationships and marriages. It’s inhumane that 95% of men are being forced to be with women against their will
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 04:34 AM
3

Perhaps I will be a stick of gum tomorrow, as the evangelicals like to imagine
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 04:33 AM
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Yes, that’s what happens when a woman is a body you use, isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 10:08 PM
2

Of course men can be raped, by either gender. I’m sure most men who want to do anal or mff threesomes wouldn’t dream of being pegged or participating in a mmf I don’t see men being called names, slapped, choked, “raped”, dominated and spit on in straight porn or in real life, but they sure like doing it to women Also, the sheer volume of indiscriminate lust compared to women. There’s so much out there catering to dicks, and yet it still isn’t enough
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 08:51 PM
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Really? The list is endless. I suppose the big one is fucking things that can’t or don’t consent. And then not treating the, uh, recipient how they’d want to be treated
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 08:30 PM
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The depravity, obviously I mean, isn’t that what post-nut clarity is? “I can’t believe I fapped to that” Edit: as someone else has pointed out, the predatory and quasi-pedophilic aspects. There’s a reason for the stereotype that men with daughters are protective, because they know how men think
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 07:06 PM
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This is going to be removed for OP abandonment anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 06:41 AM
1

Nope. Kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 06:40 AM
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Yikes, man, really? Way to make your kids lives all about you. And forcing them to do shit will definitely be successful and make them into happy adults, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 06:35 AM
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Because people don’t want to have sex around their parents? Also, please note that the 23% doesn’t mean 23% of men under 30 have never had sex ever, or that they didn’t have sex even though they tried. All it says is that 23% of men under 30 in the 2018 study reported not having had sex in the past 12 months. Volcel or incel, it’s all lumped together
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 09:42 PM
0

Why else would more people be living with their parents? A resurgence of mommy and daddy fetishes?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 09:37 PM
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https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim The culprit is “living with your parents”, aka, the economy, not “women are evil slut-prudes” And 23 is not 30
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 09:27 PM
3

This is embarrassing. Is this post going to stay up?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:09 PM
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I’m just noting that the price of accelerated evolution might disqualify it as a strategy or desired outcome And no, If you have brown eyed people hanging around and passing on their genes as well, it makes it harder for blue eyes to become dominant. The fastest way for the population to become 100% blue eyed is for all the brown eyed people to die, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:03 PM
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Sure, and the way for evolution to accelerate is lots of death to weed out non-advantageous genes faster. The more death, the quicker the genes become dominant. Is that what should be happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 04:31 PM
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You do realize that the number one driver of evolution is death, right? Lots and lots of death. Think modern society will be up for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 04:07 PM
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That’s the worst part. Now they are moving on to gender reveal bs
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 02:54 AM
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As do men, let’s not forget. What incentive is there to behave when the other party isn’t either?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 02:12 AM
1

Depends on the population density and country
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 08:14 PM
2

Blue pill just means “normal, mainstream society”. Most of us are just fine with it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 02:56 PM
1

“It’s a bold strategy, Cotton. Let’s see if it pays off for ‘em.”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 08:19 AM
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The “alternative” is the blue pill And there’s nothing novel about the red pill except the packaging. It’s basically self help hidden by an evopsych/misogynist coating to make it appeal to unsatisfied dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 08:15 AM
4

You think glow ups only happen to dudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 04:59 AM
1

Of course it’s a resource. You do know what sex workers are, right ? And surrogacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 04:03 AM
1

“Resources” means pussy, face, tits, charm, womb
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 02:31 AM
4

“Women are societal parasites and useless except for sex” is a common sentiment on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 10:23 PM
1

Why is it lying? That’s not part of the definition
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 10:19 PM
2

You mean hypocritical
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 10:18 PM
1

Gold digger only refers to the second half of your definition; the first is not necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 10:17 PM
1

They want the woman based on her resources, that’s not love
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 10:16 PM
3

How are they lying? You get looks (or youth), they get money
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 10:14 PM
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If you think this study makes marriage look better than singledom for women, I have news for you: it doesn’t. And doubly so for working It pretty much confirms all the reasons why we shouldn’t get married
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 10:01 PM
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Why? We’re not into forcing people to do shit they don’t want to
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 07:56 PM
1

PPD men: Women don’t have to work! Who cares about standard of living? What are you, a greedy princess? Also PPD men: Women are parasites and useless. Also, poor people suck and make horrible decisions. Which is it, dudes? Are we working or aren’t we? Should we work or shouldn’t we? Make up your minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 07:15 PM
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Of course. You think dudes respect sex workers?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 04:41 AM
2

The truth will out eventually But Most women will stay even so. Much like men. Cuz we’re all human Depends on how desperate you think the woman is
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 04:38 AM
1

Just like men who pump and dump, women do it because they can
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 08:56 PM
2

Yes, of course we have value as sex/reproduction things. Everyone knows this. That was my original point. You have not refuted it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 08:17 PM
1

How? What do they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 07:18 PM
1

In a nutshell, yes But it was never true to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 06:09 PM
2

If a women isn’t related to you or fucking you, do you have a reason to invest any effort into her more than you would for a stranger ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 02:46 AM
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They are genetic relatives, which are worth investing in. Sex partners are not, or at least shouldn’t be
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 02:44 AM
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Manners/consideration/decorum, in and out of the bedroom. Basic human decency You would think these are easy to find. They are not
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 08:59 PM
2

If you couldn’t fuck your woman, I doubt you would care about her
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 08:51 PM
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Yes, the One Twoo Wub fantasy is still the dominant narrative/ideal in modern Western society, mostly because it conveniently dovetails with social stability. Are you really surprised that it affects people’s lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 08:29 PM
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Men created civilized society to protect their possessions, among which women and children were included, from other men. If you can rape, steal or murder your neighbors’ female chattel, he can do the same right back to you. This had nothing to do with regarding women as equal human beings From a biological perspective, it also makes no sense to have anal sex with a woman, nor to come outside her pussy, but men sure love it anyways. How illogical!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 08:24 PM
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That’s how it is in a lot of cultures, both historical and existing. Please see: present Afghanistan, Ancient Sparta/Greece, parts of Papua New Guinea Or, you can refer to the many posts on this sub where male commentators conclude that women are pretty much useless except for puss
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 07:58 PM
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Thats annoying. I don’t need a bodyguard or a security blanket. The few tall men I dated were an inconvenience, not a benefit. Physically more awkward, and they needed so much space
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 06:12 PM
1

We are all affected by peer expectations and social pressures, don’t make this a gender thing. This is precisely why I never say anything about anyone I’m attracted to — who wants to get attacked or mocked for it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 06:10 PM
1

That’s why I said it was not feasible, i.e., the risk of getting used will always be there
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 05:59 PM
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If a man doesn’t want to be with me, he doesn’t have to. What am I, some sort of jailkeeper?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 05:51 PM
6

No one values women for existing. They value us for having orifices
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 05:49 PM
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Women who like man whores and cheaters are probably not women you want to date, don’t you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 04:10 PM
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It’s a rude and self serving question. You can find out the relevant information by indirect means and by judging their character instead And guess what? Humans are also capable of a thing called...lying
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 04:08 PM
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Any women who fuck before 3 months are risking it. Most people, of either gender, can’t wait that long. I don’t subscribe to FDS, but they do have that part right; it’s just too strict to be feasible Do you think men who leave after they get what they want have an evil mustache they can twirl or something? They look and act just like normal guys
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 04:06 PM
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A man whore is no more impressive than a woman whore, because sex is a selfish, individual pursuit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 03:23 PM
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Sure it does. Women are subjects of male desire; men objectify women. Equal, collective and opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 09:07 PM
0

Then why not use a neutral term like “subjective”?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 08:42 PM
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And wanting to fuck a woman is selfless and not at all a function of your personal desire to ejaculate?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 05:27 PM
3

Why are you singleing out women here? I don’t know many men bucking the status quo, fighting the power, raging against the machine or anything like that. And deep convos about topics that are basically useless and indulgent navel gazing? How does that change anything or indicate greater self awareness?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 04:32 AM
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You make it sound like men never cheat or trade up That is why we consider “hypergamy” to be bs Same behavior, but red pill acts like only women do it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 03:06 AM
4

It’s red pill speak for “cheating or being dissatisfied is cool when men do it but not women”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 01:09 AM
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“a man would be ultimately fine with his looksmatch he might try to shoot up” Do you understand what a contradiction is?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 01:06 AM
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I’m fine with it. That’s why they will inevitably fail in the aggregate But you could say the same about feminism, capitalism, or any other philosophy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 04:33 PM
1

Why would they criticize the population they serve? That makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 04:10 PM
1

Nope. Women are sex objects. Otherwise, we wouldn’t hear about how we are “used up”, “dirtied”, “worthless”, etc. There is literally no other reason to prize virgins so much
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 03:32 PM
0

We already had this. It was called the 1950s and 60s. Spoiler alert: the sex wasn’t great
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 07:47 PM
2

You pretty much covered it It’s really not mysterious
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 05:30 PM
1

I’m happy that people freely disclose and even broadcast their entitlement, bitterness and resentment. I mean, it’s sad for them, but you can’t force them to do anything
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:28 PM
1

You pay because you asked, and you asked because you want it more It’s really not that deep
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 08:53 AM
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Like I said to the other dude on this thread, is 5-15 dollars as an acknowledgement of reality really that big of a deal? You pay because you asked, and you asked because you want it more
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 08:43 AM
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5-15 US dollars is really that big of a deal to acknowledge reality? Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 09:13 PM
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Men want sex more Men are a physical risk for women Sex is usually more risky and less enjoyable for women Men are generally fine with sex and no relationship; women are generally not
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 09:08 PM
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When the number of men raped, assaulted and killed by women is equal to the number of women raped, assaulted and killed by men, then women will have no reason to be relatively cautious of men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 08:07 PM
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It’s not a fear suppressant. It’s compensation for greater risk. A courtesy, if you will
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 08:05 PM
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You can keep dismissing our concerns. Women love that. Please do it to our faces so we can see what kind of person you are
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 07:13 PM
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We already know and trust our platonic friends. We neither know nor trust new men who we’ve never met. See the difference there? Women get hot dogs thrown at us constantly and not always nicely. You’re paying for us to not ignore you and see you as a threat
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 04:34 PM
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If you wish to keep minimizing our experiences, go ahead. Please make sure to articulate your disdain and disbelief to all your potential partners, so they can make an informed decision
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 04:11 AM
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Women put in huge amounts of effort protecting ourselves from men. Most women research men for criminal records before dates and let multiple people know where they are going. This is basic prudence. Curtailing and repressing our natural sociability and physical mobility is normal. Pretty much every woman I know has been legitimately threatened with rape or murder. The majority of women, myself included, have been molested or assaulted Male violence, sexual or otherwise, is a fact of life for wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 03:03 AM
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Paying is just basic manners when meeting someone for the first time at your invitation. Whether it’s a client, date, business partner, etc. You want their time, you pay. Or at least offer them a goddam glass of water, you animals! Yes, dudes, that means you will usually be asking. There is no male equivalent of pumping and dumping, that’s why
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 01:27 AM
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Until male and female libidos, risk of physical harm and offspring investment is equal, I’m afraid this will not be a persuasive argument. It certainly isn’t to me A guy who pays, freely and ungrudgingly, is demonstrating that he understands that dating is a risk for women, and that his sex drive is his responsibility Louis CK, a predator himself, understood this very well. https://youtu.be/yRzs7v0do_Q Having said that, formal/expensive dinner dates are ridiculous and should not be the norm, unl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 01:09 AM
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Ah, ok, true. Men here seem to use it more in terms of “branch swinging” aka infidelity, so I forgot about the other part
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 06:25 PM
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Hypergamy means leaving a relationship. The bulk of your OP describes attributes within a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 05:30 PM
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What you are describing is not hypergamy, just parasitism. Hypergamy would describe divorcing and remarrying up the ranks until you have become Mrs. JCOS or Mrs. 5-star
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 04:41 PM
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If this is what men truly wanted, rooms at the Four Seasons would look like this. They do not, even though there is porn on the tv, gyms on the first floor, and prostitutes in the hotel bar. Nice furnishings, style, comfort, consideration and the like are not weird female quirks, — men like them too
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 03:41 PM
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“Even if just one person is victimized, brutalized, mistreated etc that is one person too much.” Doesn’t seem to jibe with “She claimed to have been raped and I also saw her push a very unconventional definition of rape before. That is all I know. In any case as a random internet stranger "the best" I could possibly "do for her" is wishing her well. And that is it.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 08:14 AM
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Wow, she just admitted to being raped and all you can say is, “well, lesbians rape too!” Given your comment history, I’m doubtful that you’re really concerned with rape in the 1% of the population that comprises gay women, and way more focused on minimizing/deflecting what happened to her and a sizeable minority of the straight women who comprise 50% of humanity
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 03:32 AM
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If I were gay, my interactions with the opposite sex would not change very much. And being gay is still a disadvantage, by numbers if nothing else
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 02:45 AM
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Of course, for women. Sexual attractiveness is fleeting (as you all keep reminding us with Wall talk); money and wealth is not. All women know that looks fade, and looks is what men love us for
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 04:48 PM
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100% agree. It’s worse because it’s actually taken somewhat seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 06:54 PM
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Some quasi-religious bs made up to rationalize why people’s partners don’t give a shit about them. Because languages, man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 06:53 PM
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Well, at least you’re not leading with the “it’s boilogy” chestnut. But preying on the ignorant and inexperienced is kind of worse, doncha think? Why stop at legal women, right? Because, as men here love pointing out, girls become “whores” as soon as they hit puberty
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 04:43 PM
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We can smell propaganda from a mile away, that’s why
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 03:34 AM
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You realize you’re taking advice from a bunch of angry crabs in a bucket? I don’t take dating advice from FDS because I’m not a desperate pick me with a history of abusive relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 03:54 PM
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This sounds like the same type of question they pose to people in abusive relationships. And the real answers are probably the same
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 03:41 PM
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You guys want sex more, so you initiate. I don’t know why this is so hard to understand Pretty much the entire world knows this
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 08:04 AM
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Why would I do that when I can avoid the not insignificant risk of getting used for sex altogether? The faster you open up the gates, the less investment a guy has to stick around Also, I’m not FDS. You’d be surprised how quickly men move on when they realize you’re not easy pickings. A few days at most for acquaintances, and three dates if you’re actually dating. The best way is to be around other available women/options
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 05:36 PM
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Well, all the sex I’ve had was in LTRs, so it’s worked for me. And I’ve never broken up with anyone for sexual incompatibility, so I haven’t seen this “filtering for dysfunction” you claim. If someone wants to be around you in the absence of sex, it’s likely they will stick around you when you’re fucking too
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 05:24 PM
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Way to assume about my body count. That’s how you win low n count women over, by calling them sluts!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 12:31 AM
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Your wording/implication: 1/3 of all women use dating to get free meals The study: 1/4 to 1/3 of women have gone on a date for a free meal at some point in their lives I am included in that 1/3, by the way. A classmate paid for my Quarter Pounder meal when I was 16, because we were chaperoning our younger siblings on a movie date. Pretty exploitative and narcissistic of me, huh? https://www.insider.com/women-go-on-dates-for-free-food-narcissism-psychopathy-2019-6
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 11:46 PM
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Minimal investment means minimal investment on both sides. You want to fuck someone a second or even third time, you might want to consider it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 11:41 PM
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I wait until lazy offers of dick fade away, and the ones who remain are men who actually like being around me, instead of just putting up with me for an easy lay Is this not a logical strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 11:39 PM
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That is not what that study said and you know it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 10:08 PM
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Uh....they have sex with this guy because they don’t care if he bounces after? You do understand long term vs short term and “investment”, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 09:57 PM
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The waiting time weeds out the minimally invested. If all they want is pussy, or are “meh” about a woman, they will bounce rather than wait. Is this really that hard to understand? Please note that the 3-month FDS period is extreme to the point of counterproductivity, but it’s really meant to break co-dependent, desperate women of bad habits. They are not normal women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 09:17 PM
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Don’t forget the New York Times article! https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/us/women-economy-jobs-coronavirus-gender.html
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 08:03 PM
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In related news: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/elaminabdelmahmoud/parenting-dads-gender-gap?origin=shp Unsurprising, and therefore depressing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 07:10 PM
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I check in daily to push back at the red pill/women are evil/malicious/terrible (slight) majority here We have more info now about how terrible people are, and male/female sexual interests and strategies are antagonistic, so it is not surprising gender relations are, uh, contentious Sadly, most functional, adult humans are able to balance their individual needs with those of society, so I don’t believe the gender apocalypse many people on here are dreaming of will happen any time soon. The world…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 06:09 PM
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r/justnoSO while we’re piling on
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 05:15 AM
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I’ve been in relationships. I’m in one now. I see relationships around me. They are not difficult or strenuous, at least not the functional ones. That is pretty sad that you think that’s what relationships are and should be like. If people really want these blah, constipated, contentious relationships, well, gosh, there is NOTHING at all stopping them from entering into one! Isn’t the freedom to make choices great?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 06:45 PM
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“I’m somewhat better than lonely death, ladies! Don’t you want a lifetime of lukewarm sentiment and constant compromise? Just grit your teeth and get over yourselves!” Uh, ok. Sounds lovely, but I think I will still pass. There’s a reason we don’t idealize the 1950s anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 06:14 PM
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Dat post history, whew! “A lot of woman out here are just community pussy” “Men shouldn't feel guilty about playing women because 9/10 she would have played him” “Being a "good guy" will not get you laid. As a man you need to have an edge because"morality" means nothing” “To sleep with women you can't be "friendly" or see them as "people" - only as something you want to fuck” But we should pity sad, helpless men, right ? It’s not like they would throw us under a bus just to get theirs, would the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 10:28 PM
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You are free to follow TRP, and we are also all free to criticize you for doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 07:54 PM
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Of course we do. You guys never shut up about it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 07:45 PM
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Aww, “feelz before realz”, amirite? I thought only dumb women did that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 01:06 AM
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Half of men were unsuccessful because lots of them were killed. By men. You think women chose to have their old husbands and male kids put to the sword for shits and giggles, or that they got to choose who raped them next?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:58 AM
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So? If you get more trash thrown at you, does it make your life better, or just messier? Please also note that you are starting with almost a 2:1 ratio to being with So you are starting at twice the disadvantage and expecting things to be equal. That’s not even taking into account disparities in sex drive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:53 AM
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You do remember ALL the findings of that study, right? Women rated 80% of men below average in appearance, but messaged them anyways. Because, surprise, surprise, they don’t just care about looks Meanwhile, the men were more generous in rating, but voluntarily limited their messaging choices to the most attractive and highly competitive profiles, because hawtness above all. So, congrats, okc dudes, you did it to yourselves
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:47 AM
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We already had near universal beta bucks. Turns out that both genders don’t want it So, it looks like porn and video games or pills and peace ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 09:31 PM
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I thought beta bucks wasn’t the ideal?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 07:26 PM
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Or blackmail material Pretty good tactic, I must say. He sure got it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 07:25 PM
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He wants fap material. Lots of women obliged
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 07:00 PM
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It’s not enough that they want to be with you, huh? They have to be with you in the right way as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 04:48 PM
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They are underestimated. Anything embarrassing/shameful will be underestimated, denied, minimized and hidden. Who wants to admit being voluntarily mistreated, even masochists? See: the shaming in these very comments. “You’re exaggerating” “It’s not that bad/not abuse” “You like playing the victim/the abuse” “You like the attention” “You chose that person, it’s your fault” I do agree that people who publicly claim they were abused to strangers/unprompted probably weren’t actually abused, because …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 03:14 PM
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I thought men wanted women to want them, not grit their teeth and put up with them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 08:42 PM
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Promiscuity, by women only, was and still is considered “bad” behavior that should be punished. It’s not that hard to understand
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 03:50 PM
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They don’t want the formality and pressure of more traditional dynamics. You know, dress up, take you out to dinner, behave, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 10:02 PM
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If you want to have harems, lots of men have to die or otherwise be indisposed. That is just basic math. Is that what the gentlemen here want?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 10:00 PM
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If her status is a mess, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:10 AM
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Sure, Jan
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:09 AM
3

Don’t forget “men built civilization”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:08 AM
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“Blue pill” just means “mainstream” or “normal”. Don’t overthink it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 10:07 PM
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Because we want to and not everyone wants the same things? No one is forcing anyone to date or marry anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 09:47 PM
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I respect people who admit reproduction is selfish. I judge those who insist that it’s not
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:02 PM
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We all know the decline isn’t because of female promiscuity but overpopulation and accelerated environmental degradation, but some people seem to think that their dick feelings are the mostest importantest. At least we can identify the childish by their whining
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:59 PM
1

The crux of the problem is excessive male thirst
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 04:30 PM
1

Nope. I don’t date rude, judgy people
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 04:29 PM
1

Because PPD is not real life
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 04:28 PM
1

Sure they like it. What man wouldn’t take free sex if it just falls into his lap?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 04:12 PM
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You know it’s not the preferences that are the problem but the hypocrisy and insistence on nonjudgement. You’re free to have choices and also free to receive criticism about it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 03:07 PM
1

Please, you know it’s not what they do but how they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 03:04 PM
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I’m in serious doubt that OP is open to having his mind changed, nor that he is arguing anything in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 03:03 PM
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You do know that men in relationships use porn too, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 01:11 AM
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Overall, yes. This is a big reason why people get married and have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 09:16 PM
3

Be sure to tell your dates that! Women respect straight talk!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 08:33 PM
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“Men built civilization, so be grateful and spread em, bitches!”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 05:26 AM
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Is this another way to say “men built civilization”?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 05:04 AM
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Few things bother men more than women caring about themselves more than men. Even if they are a tiny fringe group Please see: every powerful woman in history
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:59 PM
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Yes, life used to be nasty, brutish and short. There’s a reason people, including men, don’t want to do that anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:33 PM
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I said nothing about being trans. Men just want us to be indiscriminate horndogs like them, and we aren’t and never will be
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 05:49 AM
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Why would they try to argue against something so obvious tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:40 AM
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So, are you admitting your OP is not in good faith here? You seem to be admitting that women aren’t “as horny as men” —- so have you changed your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:21 AM
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A surprising number of men here claim the opposite, for some reason. I wonder why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:16 AM
2

I guess grilling and barbecuing is a myth
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:05 AM
3

Amazingly, not everyone is exactly like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:04 AM
1

There’s someone for everyone? Is that a blue pill belief? I mean, demographically, it is true
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:49 AM
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This is a bad faith argument. No one has ever claimed that all women are asexual, just that, collectively, women aren’t as thirsty as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:33 AM
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Dear men, Women are not, and never will be, men in women’s bodies, ok? Sorry, but that’s nature’s fault, not ours
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:16 AM
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I’m not a fan of David Brooks, but he did write an amusing book about how the super wealthy usually have extremely boring jobs and personalities, so they fund the careers and events of academics and other intellectuals for status and entertainment. He called them “the Johns of the talk circuits”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:13 AM
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I don’t bring my housecleaner, gardener, garbage man, hairdresser, plumber, handyman, physical therapist, masseuse, mailman, delivery man, or nail technician to meet my family, so why would my son bring his sex worker?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 08:38 PM
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Of course not, but we have decided to forego the morality police. You know, those religious freaks on suvs? They eventually wind up as tools of the wealthy and powerful
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 04:41 AM
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Rape is a criminal offense. Lying about your dating intentions is not
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 03:29 AM
2

Yes, yes, the price of freedom is eternal vigilance, but this is selfish relationship/sex pursuit, not civic duty, so individuals take on more risk
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 03:27 AM
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These strategies and pills quarantine the dysfunctional from the functional, so I feel they should be free to exist. People should be allowed to be dumb and make mistakes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 03:22 AM
0

I really don’t know why you’re so concerned about transwomen, seriously. And it’s rather alarming that you’re so eager to deal out violence towards them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 12:12 AM
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Let’s see — you used the “gay panic” defense incorrectly and applied it as a post hoc justification, neither of which are crimes that women are exempt from, i.e., only straight men get exemption from murder and assault before or after sexual advances or gender reveal. And then you claimed that sexual orientation is the cause of gender dysphoria, not gender perception or identity
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 12:00 AM
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You seriously believe it should be legal to kill or assault someone who expresses sexual interest in you, no matter how mild? Please note, women do not have this protection from heterosexual men Also, I don’t think people are so terrified of being gay that changing their genitals and entire relationship to society is a preferable option Wow, dude. Just wow. Can’t say this hasn’t been fascinating and disturbing, but thanks for answering
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 11:17 PM
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I’m going to blow your mind by letting you know that some transwomen are attracted to women, and some transmen are attracted to men. And, some of them are even bi or pan sexual. Also, I’m pretty sure the definition of “gender dysphoria” is “I feel like I’m in the wrong body” not “I’m attracted to the wrong gender”. I mean, do you really think changing your gender is easier than your sexual orientation? And we all know how loved and respected trans people are, especially by mainstream straight so…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 08:39 PM
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All you can tell from the fact that women initiate more is that women initiate more. Ergo, “hypergamy” just means “ending the relationship”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 07:53 PM
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Then that poor poor person deserves to be set free to find someone who communicates like an adult
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 07:50 PM
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Hypergamy, as used in pill subs, simply means “breaking up”. Not even “trading up” — it’s too freely used to even attach that meaning to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 07:48 PM
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The manosphere uses it to mean “breaking up”. Which, ya know, both genders do
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 07:46 PM
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That is what they want, a 100% guarantee, cake, and eat it too. Nobody gets that unless you’re willing to take hostages
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 07:32 PM
1

So this is really about straight men and their definitions of masculinity, then? Not transmen (yes, they actually do exist) transwomen or gay men/lesbians. Sounds a bit self centered, frankly Sorry to hear your mom was not supportive of you, but you didn’t become trans because of it, and I think it is really unlikely that trans people transition because of bigotry. Why would they, when even more awaits them afterwards?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 07:18 PM
1

Off topic, but I actually don’t understand why you care. How is that affecting you, personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 06:15 PM
1

I wish that were true, but porn and sex workers prove otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 04:50 PM
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I’m not convinced it has changed standards, but it has definitely changed socializing and accessibility. We just have more information now to make choices, but the choices would have been the same if the information had been available.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 03:30 PM
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Until men and women have the same sex drives and capacity to inflict physical damage, there is no entitlement, dating is fair, and things are fine
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 03:27 PM
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All “hypergamy” means is that she can leave your ass for being a lazy, complacent shit —- just like you can leave her for getting fat or old. Wah, I don’t feel sorry for you guys. Turnabout is fair play
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 03:01 AM
1

I guess that also works
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 08:50 PM
1

They need an excuse to want what they want. Biology is ever so handy for that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 08:08 PM
1

So? It doesn’t obligate us to fulfill it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 08:07 PM
2

It’s amazing how triggered people are about this, and how they think everyone is lying. This is similar to the way they just cannot wrap their heads around transgenderism because they personally aren’t like that I used to think humans had better imaginations
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 08:02 PM
1

Well sure, of course they’re valid relationships, but only for people who can handle doubling or tripling their relationship obligations. I get hives just thinking about it. So many schedules to juggle! So many feelings to monitor!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 04:27 PM
1

Almost everyone I know does coffee or drinks. And we’re old People want to enjoy themselves, man
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 04:25 PM
1

It kind of works. I do like feeling you want to be around me, the person, rather than simply circling around like a vulture, waiting for me to uncover the pussy cave entrance
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 04:23 PM
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When you’re used to being the king, any attempt to level the field feels like oppression
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 04:21 PM
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Um, OP appears to have basically stated his opinion and conditions and doesn’t appear to be open to changing them. Is this really a CMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 11:46 PM
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Your argument is basically, I should be able to do something that another person doesn’t like because my feelings are more important. Not terribly convincing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 09:34 PM
3

I’m sure you know that people drive other cars besides Ferraris. Perhaps not everyone wants the same things you do? Just a thought...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 06:06 PM
4

Contempt for the object of your desire is not generally a good way to get amiable companionship and affection. Sex, sure. Dysfunctional relationships, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 05:16 PM
4

We’re not just talking straight up physical resources, but social as well — which are free. Are you the life of the party? Are you gregarious, supportive, encouraging, positive, funny, witty, charming, entertaining? Can you convince your sad friend to get out more, sign up for that class, get a new haircut? Do you know a guy? Can you persuade the gang to get together, start a project, plan a trip? Can you hook someone up with something? Do you know a hot piece of gossip? Can you talk your way in…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 04:40 PM
1

OnlyFans is hilarious, because it combines two endlessly entertaining things for our monkey brains — sex and gossip. I too wonder what will happen with Sex Facebook. Probably not much, to be fair — it’s just got prices, but is only a little bit more weird than actual social media
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 04:35 PM
3

So, as looks go away, so does love? Wow, sounds awesome and desirable!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 04:05 PM
1

“People who are sociable and not selfish monsters attract people! Who’d a thunk?!”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 04:19 AM
1

Have you seen the post/comment history? Yowzers
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 05:09 PM
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I was surprised there was any at all, frankly. PUA, sure, alt-right/MGTOW, yes; red pill, no
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 05:08 PM
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And monetization! Don’t forget the monetization!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 04:31 PM
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Why don’t you larp as a woman on social media and dating sites for a bit, hmm? I really have a hard time believing you are posting in good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 07:58 AM
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The cost of human interpersonal conflict is evident in brain chemistry and damage — and it manifests up in abuse victims as ptsd and subsequent socio/psychological dysfunction, regardless of gender. Women are more often victims because they are physically weaker and because male sexuality is aggressive and penetrative by definition, but men are also affected
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:18 AM
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I love you, haiku bot
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:10 AM
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Why? It’s how life was until Christianity spread
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 05:39 AM
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TRP definitely works. I am totally fine with the dysfunctionals finding each other and self quarantining from functional adults What I will always push back against is the universal extrapolation. Nope, keep your diseased limbs away from the healthy stock, thank you! With all the porn and sex workers in employment, in addition to free, modern society, I am not convinced that the casual set market is inadequate. You will always need paid workers to satisfy male sexual demands, because women simpl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 03:57 AM
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Because people don’t want to examine their bigotry and prejudices. I’ll admit I have some and I know where they come from, and that I should be better about it; I don’t hide behind them and say “don’t judge me!”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 04:25 PM
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Bitter single parents get mad when rejected for being parents precisely because it happens so often. Just like bitter ugly, old or fat people get mad when rejected for being ugly, old or fat. Don’t overthink people’s tantrums, man. It’s not that deep, and it’s not your problem
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 03:40 PM
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They aren’t interested in facts. They are interested in pursuing male sexual strategy, i.e., getting laid. Says so right in the front page. Anything that contradicts this purpose is ignored
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:19 AM
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Marriage is a contract that creates an economic/legal unit for the purpose of raising new humans Yes, yes, you might not have children and that’s fine, but that’s what marriage, the legal status, is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:05 AM
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Porn is part of the sex industry
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:42 AM
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You do know how enormous the sex industry is, right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 07:05 PM
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Boredom and pushback Also wanted to see where niceguys come from I actually have no problem with terpers, except when they claim that the desperate/dysfunctional women they attract represent ALL WIMMINZ
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 06:20 PM
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Because then they can give up and/or not try Grapes be sour, baby!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 06:19 PM
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You hate what you want, should have, and can’t have. And it’s easier than hating oneself Men almost universally utilize sex workers, and almost as universally look down on these same sex workers for doing nothing more than providing them with the very thing they desire
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:21 PM
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So, transwomen were never men, and transmen will be never be treated like men/pass as men? And women are unable infer/understand anything from the written word, video evidence, or oral testimony from anyone who isn’t a woman, and vice versa? Okay. I guess I’ll have to take your word for it that experiencing authentic masculinity is exclusive to straight men. I suppose that only doctors who have had cancer can treat it effectively, and only people who have had children can teach then, hm? Only mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 03:52 AM
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And women can never learn about it by either being trans or by hearing about it from second hand/indirect sources? There’s a lot of human information you’re discounting, if this is your stance on information transmission
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 03:36 AM
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Female. Yes, my male friends have manners/basic social graces. Just like my female friends who don’t bring up the transgressions of men in general and place them on my male friends, and vice versa. We are adults and don’t do shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 03:00 AM
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Yes. It seems like you’re saying that if you can’t experience it directly, you can’t know or understand. Is that correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 02:40 AM
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I’m not accusing you of that; I am merely disagreeing with the OP (which you are defending?) which implies that either women can’t read/listen to/comprehend what these sources say OR that these sources are lying If we can’t ever know something unless we directly experience it, then a lot of information is invalid, isn’t it? I haven’t even brought up trans men, either
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 11:57 PM
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So what if they are larping; the point is, they have no reason to simp to women or lie about their experiences Gay men also have no stake in appeasing women, and many can pass as straight. Are they also all lying when they talk about what straight men say in all-male spaces?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 11:40 PM
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Mr Central Admin claimed that women (no qualifier) reject men based on “height and bank balance”, not virtue. I was just responding to him by saying that women just reject men, period. Because we don’t wanna fuck as much. Nothing deeper than that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 11:31 PM
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You think trans women are all lying about what they have seen/heard? Including accomplished trans women like Jan Morris, the Wachowskis, Charlie Jane Anders, Lynn Conway, Eddie Izzard? I also believe that people speak the truth when they think no one of consequence is listening.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 11:24 PM
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Trans women have. Trans men have Women deemed subhuman or otherwise not worthy of respect (service workers, minorities, sex workers) have What they have said, and what I have witnessed, does not fill me with sympathy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 10:55 PM
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That’s what the guys here say. My male friends would not
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 10:54 PM
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Evidence: unrestrained male sexuality vs unrestrained female sexuality, i.e., gay men and gay women. If I have to spell out specifically what I mean, I will direct you to google
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:21 PM
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Do you approach potential relationship prospects based on whether they make your values happy or your dick happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:20 PM
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You do know that women don’t want to fuck as much as men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:31 PM
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That is an ideal relationship to many people
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:29 PM
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That’s what they think the sub boogeyman, Mr Chad Thundercock, gets. “If you’re Chad, you get whatever you want. Anal, threesomes, a pass for bad behavior!” And why not? Who wouldn’t want an enthusiastic servant? That’s everybody’s dream, unconditional service, self-effacement, and devotion — look how popular Downton Abbey was! They liked servicing the rich people, and everyone was happy in the end!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:23 PM
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But they don’t want to be just “attractive” (enough for sex) They want to be the bestest and most attractive to get all the hottest, dirtiest, porniest sex ever, with a 100% guarantee of fidelity and no demands in return
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:16 PM
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Decency is defined by how you act, not by how much you get laid. You do know that, right? Is anyone here insisting that that normal people are getting ALL the sex and criminals are getting none? I certainly am not
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:10 PM
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You do know what the difference between sex and rape is, yah? Hint: begins with “C” Now go forth and be a thuggy frat boy asshole shitbag! Go! Smash that puss! What’s stopping you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 07:56 PM
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Sure. And my point is, just like average men aren’t getting thug attention, average women aren’t giving thug attention. Confirmation bias is a thing. Seriously, if you want thug attention, be a thug. Live the dream instead of whining about it! I believe in you, reLincolnX!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 07:15 PM
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Uh, a decent human being is not a thug, criminal or bully? Women actually do fuck men who aren’t those things, ya know? Mr. Central Admin was the one making sweeping generalizations about what makes women wet I don’t know anyone who is fucking a thug, criminal or bully, because they would be ashamed to admit it. Of course, I wouldn’t be so arrogant to claim that just because I personally haven’t experienced something doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 07:00 PM
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“But why do they call us hypocrites and misogynists?”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 05:12 PM
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You want relationships with women who like dysfunction? Go rob a bank, then, and the pussy will rain down!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 04:50 PM
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“Cake, eat it too — the story of the human race”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 04:28 PM
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Do you choose your sex partners based on their virtues and values, or on their T & A?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 04:26 PM
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Again, why do you care? Since you’re fuckin so many chicks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 04:14 PM
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If you don’t have a problem with it, why you bitchin on PPD? Most of these people are young and dumb and will learn; the older ones are just hopeless and will never change
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 04:05 PM
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It wasn’t fine for women, and men weren’t happy with it either — you do know that social change can’t occur if 50% of the population isn’t down with it, right? Women wanted more freedom, men wanted more pussy, and the majority got what they wanted. The people bitching on the interwebs are the unfortunate losers of the “free will” game
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 03:51 PM
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It’s not about values, it’s about the fact that women have very little motivation to fuck men, relative to men’s motivation to fuck women. You guys are overthinking it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 03:44 PM
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Women don’t hate virtue. They just don’t wanna fuck as much as you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 03:42 PM
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Both genders play “cake, eat it too”, don’t be disingenuous. The old deal used to be “no casual sex or sex with someone you aren’t 100% going to marry” — you know, the exact thing that dating now comprises
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 03:19 PM
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Why do you guys want “traditional dating” anyways? You do know it was basically prostitution, but with higher fees and obligations, right? And the hooker won’t leave your house afterwards; she moves in and becomes your problem, and then reproduces
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 03:18 PM
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I’m pretty sure I’d be fine and happy, cuz I’m happy and fine now, and also lazy; don’t know about my partner, honestly. Who can really know until it happens? 10+ years
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:16 PM
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They don’t “forget”. Men have an incentive to deny, minimize and justify what they do to us. All we can do is not shut up when they want us to
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:33 PM
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Put “attempted” in front of “rape”, and yes all those things did happen to me, some more than once. Please also note that I am old, extremely antisocial, suspicious, pessimistic, not hot, not white, prudish and frumpy. None of that protected me Now just imagine what happens to women who aren’t like me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:25 PM
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Yes, pray tell what is this horrible, horrible manipulation we are subjecting men to?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 06:52 PM
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I know! We should only think about how boneriffic something is; literally nothing else matters except how happy it makes a man’s dick!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 06:51 PM
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I don’t find their stuff useful because I am not their target demographic— a desperate, anxious people pleaser. I think their advice is well tailored to that niche population but not much else
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 05:24 PM
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Yes, so all these people complaining about bad advice — they’re whiners and cowards who ask the wrong questions and have unreasonable expectations. General dating advice is fine and exactly what it is advertised as
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 05:18 PM
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Few people want to take advice even if it is specific. You can’t win, really, unless you service up the exact Dick/pussy they want on a silver platter with a 5 year warranty I’ve given up for that very reason, even though I get asked for advice ALL THE TIME. Now I spit platitudes and change the subject
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 05:05 PM
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“Dick, uh, finds a way”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:14 PM
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They like to blame women when no one leaves the house anymore, looks up from their phones, or puts down the porn and vidya games And sex with them isn’t all that or too porny
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:12 PM
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“But, but, women can walk around the corner and get syphilitic dick from a homeless guy and I can’t ! IT’S NOT FAAAAAIR!! I want to get free blowies from my local bag lady, and she needs to like it!!”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:09 PM
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Yes. Unfortunately, many people, including men on this sub, do not view this as predatory but laudatory https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ctlmlj/why_are_so_many_female_teachers_sleeping_with/exmv93j/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/geb6rr/men_please_describe_the_teacher_you_fantasized/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/fjyqwj/whats_your_opin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 05:04 AM
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Well, I don’t really know about the sex part, but once they get a relationship, they see it as a never ending battle. Frame, tests, etc. Sounds exhausting, frankly. For me, the relationship means the struggle is over, not that it has begun
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:14 AM
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To get, you have to give. That’s too much uncertainty/vulnerability for some of them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 02:47 AM
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Oh, so this is just you using the sub as your personal therapist/advice columnist/validation? Rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 02:45 AM
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TRP is for men who are terrified of being vulnerable and/or cheated on. Their solution? Have shallow, antagonistic, transactional relationships with women so that you never get hurt. It’s a shit test, ok? Next that bitch before you catch oneitits! Hold that frame so you never have to compromise! Sounds awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:39 AM
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They don’t if you have enough power/money/etc. Or have the right skin color. And on the personal whims of law enforcement/the justice system “We can’t let one tiny little transgression ruin this young man’s bright future! Boys will be boys!”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:16 AM
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Please tell women that letting us have personal and sexual autonomy is ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:13 AM
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Please keep telling every women you know that. We really, really need to know! Loudly and repeatedly, in case we don’t hear you!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 11:52 PM
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If women being in a cage was so awesome for both men and women, we would still be doing it. Amazingly, the world is more efficient and prosperous when 50% of the population is able to do things for itself. It’s so illogical! Who knew that repression was costly?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 11:48 PM
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They get creeped on, stalked, raped, harassed, assaulted and shamed. We learn from our experiences — isn’t that a crazy thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 09:33 PM
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No, they just want a 100% guarantee, as ridiculous as that sounds
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 09:32 PM
1

Most men realize that other men have already pooped in the punch bowl and accept it/don’t bitch about it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 09:30 PM
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So....you knew one woman. One. Meanwhile, gay men have hundreds/thousands of partners, prepubescent girls get constantly harassed, men spend trillions on strippers, porn and sex workers, and thousands of men are arrested for rape —- but the genders have totally equal sex drives, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 09:29 PM
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Men are treated with apathy because being nice or friendly to them will prompt them to try and stick their dick in you, or your female acquaintances. Same reason they are treated with suspicion; drop your guard and your house gets burgled or your children molested Yes, yes, you may not do that, but many other men would and have. Sorry!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:09 PM
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We don’t have the male libido. Is this really hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 07:53 PM
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Sure, a girl having desires and feelings is fine for a lot of guys.... right up until you disagree with them or don’t do what they want. Then, you become “opinionated” (the horror!), “ungrateful” (the nerve!), “bitchy”, “uppity”, “selfish”, “irrational” , “prudish”, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 04:57 PM
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Yes, they should. But, free society, make your own mistakes, blah blah blah. Age is a little easier to pick out, that’s all, and is in fact a legal issue
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 04:54 PM
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Of course Why would I not? Damage is damage, regardless of gender. They will go on and fuck other people’s lives up; I have witnessed it. It is infuriating, especially when it involves kids
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 04:00 AM
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Nope. Sex can be/is often unpleasant for women and rarely for men. This despite the many, many incentives for women to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:56 AM
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If age gap relationships didn’t cause psychological issues and subsequent damage to other humans, I would have no problem with them. But they do, so I think they are all costly and unnecessary. Sorry, find someone your own age and spare society the expensive cleanup of your selfish messes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:54 AM
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If sex was as fun and carefree/unstigmaztized for women as it is for men, prostitution would not exist. Look at gay men, for example
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:49 AM
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Sadly, a personality and customer service are two different things
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:45 AM
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I pity people whose lives ended at age 18. So dumb and wasteful; just donate your bodies to science already if you’re already brain dead
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 07:49 PM
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Our lives are too cushy now, that’s all. That “minimum stake” your refer to — not starving/not being abused — used to be more than enough motivation for humanity to do shit. No longer Frankly, I’d take it. I’d rather live alone in a tiny apartment with a cat than die horribly at age 13 of cholera, or have my head caved in by Og the Super Asshole for some minor slight. Why do people need a purpose to motivate them to wipe their ass, chew their food, and not be shitty? Is being a normal, decent hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 07:41 PM
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It really, really bothers them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 07:36 PM
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You really believe that people have the same values, priorities, goals and responsibilities at 35 and 15? Ok, then. Sounds very logical and realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 06:02 PM
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The brain does keep changing after 14, ya know; you really think we should hold high schoolers to be rational, responsible people? And we give humans full rights after 18 — it takes a while to adjust and learn after that. Some people take longer than others. Human diversity!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 05:31 PM
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They will grow up. Life eventually bitchslaps you once your peer group matures and your parents/mentors start dying off. And people are more forgiving of youthful dumbassery the older you get. No one wants to be that pathetic person who is too old to be at the club
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 05:23 PM
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Most of them eventually wise up — these are just the stragglers and the truly dysfunctional I’m not worried, I’m entertained
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 05:22 PM
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I do. I don’t associate voluntarily with the people as fucked up/immature as those on either sub. It’s fun to gawk, however Most people do grow out of it, at least by their late 30s, thankfully, or the world would be truly pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 05:19 PM
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Pickmes and simps — is there really a difference? The strategies recommended are not likely to land either of them a functional relationship, but I kind of think that’s good. Leave the normal people alone, ya weirdos!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 05:16 PM
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Both subs prove nothing more than that desperation is unattractive, for either gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 05:11 PM
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Up until about 100 years ago, men were just fine fucking women (wives, slaves, servants, children, neighbors, strangers) who neither chose them, wanted to fuck them, or were able to leave them/punish them for raping them. I’m pretty sure they didn’t give a hoot about female pleasure either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 04:53 PM
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Yes, once. I dumped right away I have never cheated, because I don’t want to. It ain’t hard
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 02:31 AM
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You can get sex no problem. A peasant farmer in the 1800s couldn’t sell a few chickens for a fuck session with a hot woman, but you can! An impoverished fisherman living in 1500 couldn’t look at an endless supply of female body parts, but you can! You just have to take into account the other persons humanity/personal autonomy. If that’s too tall of an order then I don’t know what to tell you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 01:32 AM
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Yes. And there is a gigantic sex industry worth trillions of USD providing sex stuff and services, so I see no problems there. It’s all the fun parts of women without the shitty humanity! Which, I’ve been told, is what men really want from us — sex and service, not personalities and problems
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 09:44 PM
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And that’s why they should keep doing it. Let the dysfunctional find the dysfunctional, and make whatever happiness they can find — and leave the rest of us out of it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 09:42 PM
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Most normal men are in LTRs or marriages, not actively or openly trolling for casuals
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 09:39 PM
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Men are even worse than women in solipsism — all those red pill assertions are the epitome of projection “I want a woman to desire me sexually on her own —- so let me pressure her and also play games to obfuscate my intentions!” “Women are boring and can’t love —- so why don’t they care about me or want to be around me when I belittle their lives?” “The most important thing a woman can do for me is fuck me; her personality and everything else about her is worthless and inferior to men —- I don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 09:36 PM
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Oh, look, a tantrum! Take your ball and go home then, ok? You guys have so much — prosperity, religious and political freedom, socioeconomic mobility, technology, endless entertainment, modern medicine, leisure time, freedom of movement around the world, readily available sex workers/porn —- but you can’t make women do what you want, so waaaaaaah, burn it all down! Sounds pretty spoiled to me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 09:21 PM
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The men here don’t think it’s minor https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/erizg6/the_argument_men_dont_need_sex_because_they_can/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 05:31 PM
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Then why all the moaning about being “denied” sex in exchange for all the civilization building, not committing suicide/giving up, and not raping? Why is Maslow’s hierarchy brought up ad nauseum to argue that male human rights to pussy are being violated ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:30 PM
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Nowadays women cockblock men; before, men used to cockblock men. Hence all the tribal wars n stuff Women aren’t better, we just don’t want men for their bodies, and won’t kill/rape men to get what we want
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:05 PM
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In general, not in particular. OP is just pointing out that men have a perfectly logical reason to resent/hate women — we have what they want. And since male desire is infinite and unquenchable, they will never be able to get it. There will always be a pussy you can’t have, and that pisses them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:50 PM
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Um, duh? Everyone knows this Everyone also knows that people are dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:41 PM
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Male desire is infinite and unquenchable. Nature made you guys miserable, not us
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:39 PM
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Yes Men want something from women, but women don’t want anything from men. Simple motives
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:33 PM
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I hate people who sell this narrative that relationships are an agonizing slog of drama, sacrifice and pain. If you say that, I’m going to assume you have an agenda, and not a nice one. Or, your view of relationships is so fucked up you shouldn’t be in one
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 07:25 PM
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It’s not the belief, it’s the whining, nihilism and fatalism. All bad for Discussion, doncha know?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 04:58 PM
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“Any study that doesn’t validate my preexisting beliefs is wrong! Studies that agree with my experience are right!”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 04:51 PM
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Tons of guys believe that or at least profess it. Why all the whining about blue balls, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 04:47 PM
1

Because men insist it is? “Cmon babe, you’re gonna make my balls blue!”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 04:45 PM
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They don’t care to
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 04:44 PM
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And how is that better than a reasonably attractive sex worker, again ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 04:43 PM
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Yah. Why would we want these men to force themselves to date a person they despise just to get access to a body part to use? Everybody loses in that interaction
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 06:31 AM
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True, I concede that point. Comment deleted
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 09:32 PM
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Make two people and all those around them unhappy just to have a pretty wedding photo and a sparkly ring, all based on a lie? That’s dumb, but go on, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 09:12 PM
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Please. The only people who sell relationships as suffering, sacrifice and strain are assholes of either gender who can’t get people to put up with them any other way, or tradcons who want a wife/mommy slave
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 09:05 PM
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Well, it won’t happen unless the “rapist” is rich and/or famous. Defamation cases overwhelmingly involve companies, institutions, or individuals with a public presence
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 09:00 PM
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If pride is keeping you from doing the right thing, I have no sympathy. Houses, kids and business, ok fine, suck it up
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 08:59 PM
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Why should relationships be “tough”? I’m tired of hearing how you’re all totally miserable in your totally voluntary relationships; stfu or breakup, ya whiners. It’s really not that hard to be a decent human being
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 08:00 PM
2

You can get sued for calling someone a rapist if they haven’t been convicted. Are you just being deliberately obtuse here?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 07:59 PM
2

Yes. Defamation is a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 07:15 PM
3

And men’s should be too. Equality!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 07:15 PM
9

Then they wanted a broken bird to nurse back to health. Women do this too, of course — it’s very common behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:39 PM
17

Predators like wounded, weakened prey. This isn’t surprising, and neither is it behavior confined to men How can people be so naive?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:33 PM
1

I actually agree with OP — if the person you are with doesn’t care about consent, dump/divorce. If sex is the only reason you are in a relationship, dump/divorce if you don’t get it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 05:17 PM
1

Please go and tell everyone you know that! Preferably over social media
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 04:32 PM
1

The pair bonding thing is a a straw man, and I don’t believe in it. Having said that, I do believe that high n counts can indicate mental illness/personality disorders and similar issues. In other words, the sex doesn’t cause the relationship issues and infidelity, but the opposite. And it’s not as widespread as the men here believe
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 03:42 PM
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The correct terminology is “there is nothing illegal about obtaining sex through nagging, threatening breakups, etc” You’re still wrong, selfish, and shitty, and can legally be called such However, I believe sex pests and dead bedrooms should be solved by breakups wayyyyyy more often. Why do people do this to themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 03:38 PM
24

Yes, well, the problem is the hypocrisy, not the count You guys know that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 03:36 PM
1

Ugh, this exact question again. And the answer, for the 1 billionth time, is yes, we can do what we want — but people are selfish, illogical and lazy, ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 03:35 PM
2

Of course, that’s the ideal. But between a poor dude who is hot and a rich dude who is ugly, which is gonna get more and better looking action?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 10:20 PM
7

“Why don’t (young, hot, extroverted) women like me?”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 08:36 PM
7

Yeah. You do know that dick is not what we want, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 08:35 PM
1

Yes, men, like all humans, are stubborn. And lazy, don’t forget lazy!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 05:03 PM
3

Please, do tell!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 04:53 PM
2

It’s not, but bye!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 04:12 PM
3

Give anecdotal testimony, get dismissed as an exception or delusional Give larger-scale data, get minimizations, misunderstanding and denial Encourage improvement and trying new things, cue fatalism and bigotry Nobody wants to try or change in this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 04:04 PM
6

Why should they? Men will eat that hot dog off the ground, after all
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 03:55 PM
5

PPD users: Women are shitty and too picky! That’s why men aren’t getting any sex! Gen Z: Actually, we’re all stressed, poor, introverted and voluntarily isolated, and people just look at porn and social media instead of socializing—- PPD: Nope! It’s ungrateful bitches! So unfair!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 03:54 PM
9

What a fancy way of saying, “whoever wants something less has more power/leverage” Got any more special words to express your utterly unique viewpoints?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 03:48 PM
3

It’s doesn’t matter what “works” — people that complain about advice want 100% guarantees, i.e., a free prostitute
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 03:47 PM
2

It sounded a little extortionate to me “Give me positive stories, or I’ll become bitter and resentful or despairing and suicidal!” I thought women were the ones who couldn’t handle reality and want platitudes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 11:17 PM
5

People of both genders who are bitter about things that can’t be changed or weren’t intentionally malicious are immature and unpleasant to be around Sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 10:00 PM
2

We get hoe’d or wife’d; I don’t know why they think “looks vs personality” is something only men deal with
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 09:13 PM
4

Depends on whether you want to be alpha’d or beta’d, now, doesn’t it? Same as for women, btw
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 08:48 PM
2

No, that’s why OP has chosen to focus on this article out of all the other articles on that site
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:40 PM
9

Ok, that is totally false. Unless you’ve mixed up what sub you’re in
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:39 PM
2

I’m not the only one who thinks this SRS thing is bs; have you not read the other comments? If that’s not your intent, it sure is coming off like it is It’s called “I came” or “a turnoff”, but I guess that’s not fancy enough anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 05:15 PM
3

We all settle and have an “80/20 mindset” (Oooh! A fancy way of saying “I like what the majority of people also like”!). Men ain’t special
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 05:12 PM
1

The whole point of your post is “People reject other people based on things I don’t agree with and think are minor.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 05:10 PM
3

“Anything should matter” I agree. And different things matter to different people. So why are you surprised by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 05:07 PM
12

Uh, whut? You contradict yourself in your own OP
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 05:05 PM
4

Do you want to fuck a woman based on her deeper personality/values/character traits or because of her fat deposits and outer epidermis? If they changed, would you feel differently about her? So minor! It shouldn’t matter, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 05:02 PM
4

That’s the whole point of the red pill, so...are you surprised? People are dumb and easily bored
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:57 PM
1

Media and entertainment indicates otherwise. People caring about characters that don’t exist in reality or humans they will never meet or be affected by in any way! Do you watch any media at all? Why, if these people aren’t real?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:43 PM
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Porn, dude. That, and men are less social We just get to see men in their natural state now since we have so many choices
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:36 PM
5

Is it really that hard for people to understand that humans are social animals that judge each other? Do we really need super special words to describe “preferences” and “standards”? Are you seriously flabbergasted by the idea that words and actions have consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:34 PM
2

Don’t discourage him! Where else am I gonna get my entertainment from?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:28 PM
0

Online dating is like just like online anything — you get more info, but you have to do the work to verify for important things. No way around it. Sorry, lazy people — you are going to have to research, talk, disclose, and behave if you want something other than a hookup
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:11 PM
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Nope. They are just dumb, illogical, lazy creatures. You know, like men? I do stupid things like drink, smoke, waste time on pointless entertainment, fail to diversify my portfolio, use credit cards, buy unvetted products, eat bad food, and put off exercise, planning and socializing —- and I’m not gonna blame that on feminism OR the patriarchy, or even capitalism. That’s my own damn fault
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:00 PM
3

90% of everything is boring, banal, unsuccessful, etc. Your expectations are just inflated by the media/ cushy modern life. Instagram is not reality
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 02:59 PM
3

We don’t socialize as much and look at our phones all day. Don’t overthink it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 02:57 PM
2

I don’t want porn to be illegal, even though it brings little benefit to me, and is often harmful to the people who create it. It’s too useful as a tool to see into a man’s true character
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:17 PM
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Sex involves another person, ergo it is a social interaction. Social interactions affect other people. Therefore, they are interested in what happens You might as well ask why we even bother interacting with people at all instead of living like solitary predators
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:15 PM
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I don’t care if a man cries for any reason, as long as it’s not constant, to manipulate me, or to make it solely my problem For the record, I never cry unless I’m incandescent with rage or frustration
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 11:07 PM
2

Please note the username “dindu” is a racist slur
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 03:34 AM
1

It’s not something I enjoy knowing about, that’s for sure Like I said, men are pathetic for sex, but women will swallow abuse and call it love Guess which one I find more delusional? Personally, I know it’s a successful survival strategy, like male confidence and aggression, but it’s very maladaptive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 12:55 AM
2

I believe what they say, yes. And they say they don’t want to leave because feels
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 12:52 AM
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I’m not diminishing them, it’s what they say in their own words — “I know I should leave, but I love him and can’t do it because it makes me feel horrible to be away from him” It not about the man or what he does (usually terrible), it’s about how they feel with and without him
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 12:50 AM
3

Men tell us that sex is the ne plus ultra of their existence, so why shouldn’t that rank equally with money/love/entertainment? Are they lying about that? And seriously, have you never read the relationship/abuse subs? Make a woman feel anything, and you don’t have to lift a finger, or even wash your ass. You can even abuse her kids and she will twist her logic into pretzels so that she can keep you in her life. Or, if nothing else works, threaten violence and retribution. It’s very effective, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 12:08 AM
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You think you’re going to get useful/accurate info out of this question?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:45 PM
1

I’ve never heard of one where a man had a mandatory financial level he needed to meet during the marriage. That’s the whole point of joint assets, ya know
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 09:45 PM
2

Engage her feelings, especially by alternating abuse with affection, and you can pretty much do anything you want to a lot of women, and even her/your kids Also, I readily admit that lots of women will put up with/deny terrible treatment for money as well I mean, men are whores for sex, women are whores for money/love/entertainment. Isn’t this kind of common knowledge?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 09:41 PM
1

I’ve never heard of a marriage with legally enforced provisions. Do you think that women never work or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 09:37 PM
2

We won’t until men up their standards for sex Although, to be fair, a lot of women have very very low standards, just not for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 07:23 PM
1

Again, if women used the words “owed”, “denied”, “refused”, and “deserve”, they get called entitled too Words have meanings
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 07:10 PM
1

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/i82nw6/q4w_is_it_difficult_for_you_to_understand_why_men/g15wikn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf This is the post the OP is referring to I see the words “owed”, “denied”, “deserve” thrown around all over the place by the poster here. The entitlement is staggering
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 06:17 PM
2

Ok, but my first point still stands, for men in general None of your OP is currently illegal now, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 06:11 PM
1

Men can’t buy lust/dehumanization, women can’t buy love/humanization Men want to be things, women want to be people Seems equal to me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 06:09 PM
2

General media is woman porn, get it right. That’s what women swoon and obsess over, characters represented by actors
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 06:07 PM
3

Men just want to fuck everyone, which includes friends It’s not that deep. Only the desperate have friends as their sole sexual strategy, however
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 06:05 PM
1

You are free to pursue this strategy now So why aren’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 06:03 PM
0

Men want sex more The end
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 06:01 PM
2

Responsibility? Do tell
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 04:46 PM
2

This should be the response whenever there’s whining about sluttery and n counts
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 12:28 PM
4

Women can be as lazy as men, I guess; just in different ways. I agree, it’s dumb and harmful to themselves in the end
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 12:23 PM
1

I went through a mild glow up in college — should I hold the men who suddenly bombarded me afterwards responsible for the previous lack of interest? Do they owe me their money/fidelity because I never got laid in high school?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 04:56 PM
3

They also might be game players, indecisive, have low self esteem, extremely introverted or any other myriad explanations Still, there are probably healthier people out there
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 04:54 PM
1

Let them think that, as long as it quarantines them from mentally healthy women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 04:52 PM
4

Lolololol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 04:50 PM
6

Delusion/dissatisfaction with current partner driven by biology. You can bet if they got what they wanted they’d get disillusioned with the real, flawed person But this happens to both genders; I would argue that sex drives it more in men, that’s all
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 04:33 PM
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Why does that matter? We don’t do sex/relationship communism in free societies. You want an arranged marriage, the Third World is that way ——> And no, no I did not date very much and I have a low count. So what? That doesn’t entitle me to anything
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 02:39 AM
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Yes. I know most dudes would rather fuck an 18 year old instagram model instead of me, but I don’t get salty over it. We all settle; people need to get over it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 11:47 PM
2

Why disparage it, tho? Just say you can’t afford it instead of badmouthing it to people who might be able to. Or, is this some kind of zero sum game — “if I can’t have it, then you shouldn’t have it either”?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 11:44 PM
2

Then why all this complaining about burying and repressing your feelings until they erupt catastrophically?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 10:29 PM
-3

But terrible, frivolous, inferior women do it and it seems to help! Social interaction and all that!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:24 PM
-2

What the heck are your friends for?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:14 PM
1

Most men can’t fuck hot girls for free. Ergo, dating
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:24 PM
1

You’re paying for the hotness
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:20 PM
1

“Hot” is the operative word
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:15 PM
1

Not enough of those hot girls to go around
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:02 PM
1

Sure, we all know some men fuck for free. Not a lot, however
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:01 PM
0

Men pay on the first date because it is assumed that you are compensating us for risk. But, since dating isn’t straight up prostitution, it should be a lower cost date for getting to know you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:43 PM
3

Well, then, they could grab and tickle their household members, children, neighbors and servants who couldn’t resist. That still goes on today.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:41 PM
1

I don’t think society can change your basic personality, no. You can hide, emphasize, modify or adapt your basic personality, but training/motivation isn’t going to turn an introvert like me into a true extrovert.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:37 PM
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Well, we are definitely born with certain characteristics, which may or may not be malleable. Society teaches you the majority view on where and how those characteristics are valued, and you have the free will to reject, modify or accept it? Is that not deterministic enough for ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:18 AM
2

You said you want to be “taken care of”, i.e., someone else is responsible for your life. Sounds pretty parental to me; adulthood is taking care of your own shit
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 04:12 AM
1

You don’t seem to be open to having it challenged
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 04:09 AM
1

Blaming society is weak and hypocritical, since you are alive and benefiting from it greatly
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 07:28 PM
1

I’d be fine in a sexless relationship, as long as both people are happy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 07:22 PM
2

Lol, what? I don’t want to be a mommy, but I sure as hell am not looking for a daddy. I just need an adult!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 07:16 PM
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There are equal, if not more, numbers of delusional men doing the same thing. Why does this matter, you ask? Because we can all see it. As long as others are behaving equally badly, shaming is not effective
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 07:13 PM
1

It is not in society’s interest to promote destructive and antisocial behavior, duh You want to live in warlord society? Somalia is that way —-> Even so, it’s very unlikely that Chad won’t also be king there
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 07:10 PM
0

I still see lots of whining about bad boys, Chad, douchebags, assholes and the like. At least here, anyway; can’t see for myself what red pill is saying
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 07:03 PM
1

Well, good. Are you finally happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 07:00 PM
5

There’s whining all over this sub, have you not noticed?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 03:40 PM
9

Why not? It’s all the guys here talk about, plus all the blaming. It’s annoying, all the lamenting about boo hoo, women love abuse and drug dealers and assholes Well then, why don’t you become an abusive, drug-dealing asshole if it’s so great?!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 02:52 PM
1

I don’t need a fulfilling dating life any more than a man needs to talk about his feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 05:36 PM
9

Please, angry dudes, just go out and BE fucking shitty assholes, instead of just sitting here whining about how theoretically great being a fucking shitty asshole is. Seriously, just carpe diem, if being decent and polite is such torture. You should pursue fulfillment and happiness!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 04:38 PM
3

Hot people are liked more that not hot people! Wow, OP, you are a unique genius; no one has ever observed that before!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 04:34 PM
3

Definitely. I was a low social iq, nebbish female dweeb, and I got exactly the amount of attention and status I deserved. Which was none. I had to fight my nature every day to get anywhere. Boo hoo, life is tough
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 04:30 PM
3

I’m not attractive, not white, and over 35 No one gives a fuck about me, and it’s great
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 04:28 PM
9

Please, let all the women know how fortunate we are to have bodily parts that people want to use! That really impresses us!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 06:00 AM
1

The extremes are easy to identify; the mushy middle, not so much. But it’s fun watching people argue about it! And stupid!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 05:43 AM
4

“Assertive and borderline aggressive”, eh? Ok, go ahead, we will all watch. Where’s the popcorn?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 05:42 AM
11

Wow, having body parts that other people want to use, irregardless of how I feel about it, is sooooo awesome and fulfilling. Yay me!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 05:40 AM
1

Do you think most women have high libidos or libidos equal to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 03:42 PM
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