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rumblepony247/r/MGTOW217/07/19 09:12 PM
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Just saw this post and was glad to read that you are doing better. Loved your approach to getting through it. Accomplishing action items (no matter how small) and treating yourself (fellow sushi lover here) are great ways to pull yourself out of a funk. You got this, brother!
/r/MGTOW212/02/20 01:06 AM
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Meh, I don't blame women for doing women-stuff any more than I blame rattlesnakes for doing poisonous snake-stuff. We are all driven by our embedded DNA (nature) within the framework of our upbringing (nurture) and society at large. Sounds like you're on a good path, focused on yourself and moving from anger at, to disinterested in, others' nature. My time spent at the gym has done wonders for me physically and even moreso, emotionally. Best of luck.
/r/MGTOW212/02/20 01:00 AM
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Excellent advice in the various comments. An additional important thing to remember is that interest-carrying debt is offsetting gains. If debts are retired, you are effectively making a guaranteed return at the percentage that the loan was at. My personal belief is that no debt ought to be carried other than a mortgage, and that should be retired as quickly as possible by aggressively accelerating payments. Get out of the habit of renting money. Pay off debts first and do not incur them again, …
/r/MGTOW211/11/19 11:48 PM
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Who knows. By diversifying your portfolio, you protect yourself as well as possible, whilst also enjoying the fruits of the good years, and maybe just as importantly, you don't worry about what you can't control. Personally, my net worth is roughly 1/3 in S&P 500 index funds, 1/3 in cash equivalents (savings accounts with competitive interest rates) and 1/3 real estate equity. This lets me sleep at night based on my risk tolerance
/r/MGTOW209/11/19 04:14 PM
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Knock out the work week, connect with a close friend for lunch midweek, get in 4 hikes and 3 gym sessions, getting some cosmetic dermatology done (cryo freezing some very unsightly moles at my scalp line and also on my face), endure dinner next Sunday with my parents. Spend plenty of time with my doggo
/r/MGTOW203/11/19 08:12 PM
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I live about two hours away, and haven't visited in years. It's basically just one giant retail cluster fuck of gift shop crap, art galleries ranging from shit to luxury, spiritual nonsense/trinket peddlers, restaurants, and real estate agents, and is completely overrun by tourists and their cars. It's unfortunate, because the natural beauty of the area is spectacular.
/r/MGTOW226/10/19 01:20 AM
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My motivation is endorphins, for mood elevation and a better sense of well-being. Every other day is weights at the gym, and then the alternate day is cardio (hike preferred, but also get on the Mtn bike, or stationary bike at the gym if weather is a factor). I also am pretty healthy from a diet/nutrition standpoint. Not as hardcore as I should be, but tremendously better than I've been historically. These lifestyle changes over the past 7 months have made me feel so much better (body and mind).…
/r/MGTOW223/10/19 01:21 AM
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I think of desirable women as dangerous to my pursuit of well-being, not evil. Every animal (humans included) is just behaving based on their nature. When hiking, I avoid rattlesnakes because they threaten my well-being, doing what rattlesnakes do, not because they are evil. I suppose either mindset works, as it keeps one aware of the threat to emotional and financial security
/r/MGTOW220/10/19 01:47 AM
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Quit my good paying office job 15 years ago to purchase a delivery territory business. The business has turned out as promised and I like the work specifically (I prefer physical work, and am an introvert, so being in the truck alone a lot suits me), but now that the wife is gone, working 2a-11a as a single guy is a huge social obstacle to building or maintaining friendships. I feel like I've gotten too 'dumb' and set in my ways in this gig, and would never even make through the interview proces…
/r/MGTOW218/10/19 09:31 PM
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Your post was really relatable. Over my many years on the planet, I've come to view this as (for me at least) the most difficult aspect of being a male, that it is culturally stigmatized for men to communicate any significant amount of weakness or vulnerability, to either gender, in either a romantic relationship or platonic friendship. We're just supposed to 'suck it up' and stop whining. My fantasy therapy sessions would be with an attractive cuddlist with a Ph.D. in Psychology for non-sexual …
/r/MGTOW214/10/19 09:52 PM
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Staunch Atheist. The fact that such a large portion of the planet still believes in some sort of ancient fairytale, now that everyone has access to modern scientific knowledge, would be just simply depressing, if it wasn't so damaging. Religion is and always has been another tool for the strong and powerful to exploit the weak and ignorant. As an Atheist, I don't believe in the concept of (good or) evil, but those who use religion for personal and monetary gain, and to prey upon youngsters sexua…
/r/MGTOW212/10/19 03:55 PM
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Interesting take. The concept aligns with another related subject, voluntary taxation (the most prominent example being lotteries). In the case of lotteries, they are essentially a voluntary tax on a sub-group making poor choices, which enables an offset in mandatory taxes for the rest of us. Another example would be traffic violations (if you choose to break traffic laws, you will pay fines). So yes, I agree with your take from a selfishly financial standpoint.
/r/MGTOW212/10/19 12:27 AM
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Underrated comment
/r/MGTOW210/10/19 05:42 PM
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Yes, more accurately stated, TY
/r/MGTOW09/10/19 03:30 PM
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Remember also, women buy the vast majority of clothing (including a lot of men's clothes for their simps), so retailers are just catering to their cash 'cows' (pun intended)
/r/MGTOW09/10/19 03:12 PM
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MacKenzie Bezos should send Lauren Sanchez a dozen Bugattis for unlocking that fortune for her. The real problem is, your statement is legally true in the case of accumulated assets during marriage. I would say however, now that the illusion of what marriage is supposed to be, is gone, any current single man (especially ambitious ones who might become very wealthy) who gets married, gets what they deserve. The veil has been lifted and there are no longer excuses for getting yourself in such a si…
/r/MGTOW09/10/19 03:08 PM
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So this. Everyone should first and foremost be their own best friend. And a best friend would never criticize or think negatively about their best bud the way they do to themselves. Be your own best advocate, fellas
/r/MGTOW09/10/19 02:03 AM
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(Mental image of the GEICO gecko giving me a handjob)
/r/MGTOW09/10/19 01:58 AM
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Exactly this. They are there to serve themselves. The psychology of idolatry that people have for politicians is the same as that for deities IMHO. People crave being told what to think and feel, and that powerful beings 'have their back'
/r/MGTOW206/10/19 01:25 PM
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Yes
/r/MGTOW206/10/19 01:20 PM
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Am genuinely curious, do you feel slightly embarrassed because you think your feelings suggest a hint of idolatry, which you find distasteful?
/r/MGTOW203/10/19 11:27 PM
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Felt the same way when Amy Winehouse died. Was a huge fan of the music and in awe of her talent. Throw the self-destructive lifestyle on top of it, and there was just something about her flameout that touched me. BTW, whether a fan of hers or not, the documentary is excellent
/r/MGTOW203/10/19 11:22 PM
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Long-time misfit here, I feel ya. At 52, I've had only a handful of deep connections, and divorcing this late in life has made maintaining friendships terribly difficult. I'm still working on complete acceptance. Honestly it's hard not to wish for 'Blissfully Ignorant' and to be part of the Normals, but for those of us who won't ever be there, the path to acceptance is the only way.
/r/MGTOW203/10/19 06:59 PM
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I find that as long as I have enough tasks to accomplish each day, my emotional thoughts are in control or at least of short duration. For work days, it is no problem usually, as there is 10 hours related to the job, the gym or a hike (I alternate each day) and errands, taking care of the house, my dog. It is my days off that I have had more trouble with (usually only have about half of the day with necessary things to do), so I am in process of filling out those two days with volunteer work. I …
/r/MGTOW203/10/19 05:51 PM
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Have never had this 'problem', not gonna lie, I wouldn't mind the ego boost occasionally. I'm better than average looking for my age, tall, proportional weight, and in shape, so it must be that male equivalent of 'resting bitchface' I always have, and my social awkwardness 'shining through' lol
/r/MGTOW226/09/19 08:59 PM
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My dear old Beagle is nearing 14, and now that I live alone and work full time, he's alone too much for my liking (me and the wife had different schedules, so he had company nearly all the time then). It bothers me quite a bit, but I remind myself I'm doing the best I can. I'm thankful he's not too active anymore, and therefore doesn't get stir crazy. When I am home though, it's all about him. When he passes, I'll probably get a cat, and then in 12 years or so when I stop working, I'll get a hou…
/r/MGTOW224/09/19 08:55 PM
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Very Eckhart Tolle. Love it
/r/MGTOW224/09/19 08:44 PM
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This analogy made my day lol
/r/MGTOW224/09/19 08:41 PM
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Married 17 years from early 30s to 50, after having a typical dating life prior to that. It consisted of 3yrs of fantastic, followed by 12 yrs of 'meh' and lastly, 2 yrs of shitshow. Am better for the experience, but it seems to me that any future relationship would most certainly follow roughly the same pattern and percentages (total time being the variable), so I've got no interest going forward.
/r/MGTOW224/09/19 08:38 PM
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It didn't occur to me when I was married that all we ever did with our 'couple friends' was drink and/or go out to dinner. And like the good simp I was, I didn't continue to nurture the solo friendships I had before the relationship, and those friendships faded away whilst I wasn't paying attention. The combo of the marriage ending and my tiring of drinking as I got older (I would rather get together to do an actual something, usually involving excersize) has led to these 'couple' friendships mo…
/r/MGTOW222/09/19 02:45 PM
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Good post, very thought provoking. I relate to a great deal of it. A 17-year marriage (ended a year ago) and the 'normal' life that came with it (her family is extroverted, had lots of gatherings, and we had many 'couple' friends to do things with - which ended up being drinking 95% of the time) sort of masked the fact for a long time that I have always been a bit of a loner by default, and never really fit in. The further away I get from that old life, the more I realize that my recent 'longing…
/r/MGTOW220/09/19 11:50 PM
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Wonderfully written post, was a pleasure to read, thank you.
/r/MGTOW218/09/19 02:10 AM
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Ya, even though our species is supposedly so advanced and intelligent, people mostly can't separate what their DNA programming has told them is important for propagating the species. One of the most valuable things I think I have gained from MGTOW is seeing people (both genders) more clearly for who they are, rather than the physical package they were born with. But as we MGTOW know, most don't rise above their genetic and social programming.
/r/MGTOW215/09/19 03:57 PM
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Makes sense. I don't think you're judging at all, you have a perspective on it that I don't
/r/MGTOW215/09/19 03:40 PM
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6' 2" guy here, and feel completely irrelevant to those I interact with (used to bother me, now I like it). At 51, I feel like it is the combo of being older and male that causes it, perhaps height is a factor as well, I'll defer to those that live with that reality, but I've never felt a benefit to being tall
/r/MGTOW215/09/19 03:34 PM
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This is being made to be so complicated, when it is not. If she wasn't smoking-hot, you would dismiss her as a simple dumpster-fire, instead of as 'mysterious' and in need of being 'understood'. Try to imagine an ugly girl, or a chick that's not your type, with the exact same traits - what would you think of that girl? Would you care? She is physically the exact type you are highly attracted to, a 'hot-mess', and your ego is stroked by the attention she pays you, it makes you feel special, like …
/r/MGTOW214/09/19 10:33 PM
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Ya same here
/r/MGTOW212/09/19 03:19 PM
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My policies got canceled the day I discovered the (now) ex-wife cheated. I have no idea why I would carry a policy(s) now, with no dependents. Now my assets when I die, that's a different story, gotta figure that one out at some point(age 51 atm). Nieces and nephews, meh, I'm just not feeling it - perhaps some animal rescues that I feel are worthy.
/r/MGTOW212/09/19 12:02 AM
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I simply live my life expecting no one else to impede my pursuit of contentment, and I do the same for everyone else. As the Dalai Lama says, "Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them." As I am not wired to do the former, I make certain that I do the latter
/r/MGTOW211/09/19 12:40 AM
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100% this, as I chill in blissful solitude with my dog, on the deck of my condo, enjoying the pleasant afternoon breezes
/r/MGTOW209/09/19 11:06 PM
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Have an upvote for the Thoreau reference. 'Walden' is one of my favorite reads.
/r/MGTOW209/09/19 10:54 PM
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The decision as I see it, is a tradeoff between the stress of debt (your debt won't be paid off soon if you get your own place), and the stress of living with your father. Perhaps it is not so clear-cut as you initially thought. Living with my parents was unpleasant to say the least. At 18 and graduated from high school, I moved in with roommates when I started college, and have never been back to live at home, despite the fact that on a couple of occasions, it would have made financial sense in…
/r/MGTOW209/09/19 10:45 PM
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Great read
/r/MGTOW209/09/19 07:38 PM
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I'm enough of a worry-wart already. Adding humanity to the list isn't something I consider. I'll do my 25-45 years remaining on this planet as best I can, try not to get in anyone else's way of same, and call it a day.
/r/MGTOW205/09/19 05:37 PM
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Since others addressed the 'where do I go from here' portion of your post very well, I'll give you my personal experience on the uncontested divorce. Our jurisdiction was Arizona. We have no kids either, and she agreed that she would leave with what she brought into the marriage (assets, retirement accounts etc) and I would do likewise, and we would split our home equity. Her guilt from cheating saved my financial ass, as she could've divorce-raped me pretty solidly had she not agreed to this ar…
/r/MGTOW204/09/19 11:23 AM
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My motivation is, quite simply, feeling great. Since I started eating right and working out (about 3 mos ago) I'm down 30 lbs, my mood is more even, and my confidence is improved, my sleep is better, and I just feel physically, so much better. I am absolutely addicted to the daily endorphin hit from my workout. I'm not going back - I like how this feels too much.
/r/MGTOW201/09/19 09:41 PM
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I don't know the exact amount, but the qualifications for Social Security are very low. I remember being 'qualified' by the time I had been working just a couple years into my late teens/early 20s. It's gotta be nearly impossible not to qualify for Medicare
/r/MGTOW230/08/19 06:02 PM
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This. Great post
/r/MGTOW230/08/19 05:58 PM
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Yes, about 18 months ago
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 11:50 PM
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At this stage of my life, it doesn't particularly matter how hard-and-fast these concepts are, because I just don't want to make the effort. Even if the prize at the end was a guaranteed NAWALT who provided a tremendous net positive to my life, the effort is just too great for me. My results have probably been pretty typical to most guys-some of my SO exhibited the classic traits, and some not so much. Hell, one relationship in my mid 20s was great for five years, she decided she definitely want…
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 11:20 PM
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One tug about every 7 days and I'm good. The benefits of being 51 lol
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 11:02 PM
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7-12 years old for me (circa mid to late 70s) was all about skateboards, riding our BMX bikes, wiffle-ball, kickball, football. Tons of outdoor stuff. Hell, walking to 7-11 to get a Big Gulp with my best friend was something I looked forward to. It was Just 2-5 of us at any given time, playing and hanging out. Also back then, video games were in arcades, and we'd spend hours playing Asteroids, Defender, Galaga etc for as long as our paper-route money would last lol. No thoughts of investments or…
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 10:56 PM
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"Letting go is the lesson. Letting go is always the lesson." This is a famous Zen quote. Firstly, you must accept that the world is as it is. You are in it, for better or worse, so make your world better, because your world is the only world that matters to you, as my world is the only one that matters to me. "Let go or be dragged". Eat well/nutritiously, get plenty of excersize, get enough sleep. Immerse yourself in, and observe, nature, often. Observe/be aware of your breathing and take time s…
/r/MGTOW227/08/19 07:31 PM
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This. r/antinatalism
/r/MGTOW225/08/19 04:01 PM
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'Legacy' lol, what a self-indulgent crock of shit. As the only male offspring of my parents, and with no uncles, the surname of our mildly dysfunctional family will proudly die with me. That is MY legacy.
/r/MGTOW225/08/19 03:59 PM
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Well done, Sir. Most of us had to learn the hard way in our 20s, didn't see the light until much later
/r/MGTOW225/08/19 03:55 PM
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I can't emphasize enough, how excersize and good diet choices have improved my physical and emotional well being.
/r/MGTOW223/08/19 09:47 PM
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Can so relate to what you said about going "along for the ride." As I reached 30, I never expected to get married or have any super-committed, long-term romantic relationships, as I never pursued (it just didn't feel important enough, although I never thought about 'why' I was that way). Girlfriends ranging from a few weeks to one that surprisingly lasted 4 years, peppered my life, always primarily through their efforts. Enter girl, aggressive pursuer, very attractive, enjoyed her company, it fe…
/r/MGTOW223/08/19 09:36 PM
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Grind daily. Celebrate rarely.
/r/MGTOW223/08/19 05:54 PM
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Well said. Needed this reminder today, thanks
/r/MGTOW217/08/19 04:34 PM
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Most simply IMHO, PUA's see value in 'the game' and MGTOW do not.
/r/MGTOW214/08/19 06:29 PM
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I'm not sure TBH. I've substantially improved my physical self in the past year or so (healthy eating, working out a ton, very limited booze) and feel fantastic as a result, but my libido has not risen with my overall physical health, and I thought it was going to be more difficult to manage. I've really taken to MGTOW and chowed down the red pills, so I think that has overshadowed any physical / sexual drive.
/r/MGTOW213/08/19 09:05 PM
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Interesting post that I can relate to. I've gotten really committed to working out and eating well over the past 6 months, and the reason might be different than most - it's the post-workout endorphin hit. I'm absolutely addicted. I feel on top of the world for hours. The changes to my body and appearance are a nice side-effect, but are not my primary motivation. In my mind, healthy eating and excersize are the direct opposite of boozing and eating crappy food, from a pleasure/pain perspective. …
/r/MGTOW213/08/19 02:19 AM
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Wow, thanks for sharing, OP. It is so hard to fight our natural tendency to seek approval from our parents. I remember how sad I was when I realized my parents were fairly crappy humans. Yet, it is also simultaneously a freeing feeling when you live for yourself.
/r/MGTOW213/08/19 02:02 AM
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At 51, I'm happy to say that the slavemaster has loosened his grip considerably over the past few years lol. Between the physical reduction of desire, and my enlightenment through MGTOW to the real dynamics of human mating behavior (both male and female), it's easily manageable now. But Goddamn does my DNA programming still enjoy the sight of a hot young female. The near-instant knowledge that I am invisible to her snaps me right back.
/r/MGTOW213/08/19 01:53 AM
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One of the best benefits of going MGTOW, I believe, is that we naturally reevaluate our standards and values for all of the people we allow into our lives; friends, family, lovers, etc. I much prefer my own company to those who don't meet such standards. If that results in extended periods of solitude, which it often does, so be it.
/r/MGTOW213/08/19 01:44 AM
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I think you just had a little bit of what I've heard called the 'partiers guilt.'. I'm very familiar with the feeling. The awful physical feelings that accompany a bad hangover, also affect people emotionally for that short duration. Guilt, short-term depression, a sense of wasting time. You had a great time, blew off some steam, and paid the price, that's all. Glad to see you are back to being your own best advocate.
/r/MGTOW211/08/19 12:16 AM
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You are one of the countless victims of the bombardment of 24/7 information by an exponentially larger media marketplace. And how do these outlets maximize revenue? By getting as many eyeballs/clicks as possible. And how do they do that? By getting their audience emotionally engaged. And how do they do that? By presenting 'stories' that foster the most raw emotions - politics, violence, crime, celebrity nonsense, etc. The fact is that the world has never been more stable. You just know about eve…
/r/MGTOW209/08/19 06:22 PM
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When I was in my late 20s, the girl that my best friend was dating made it clear to me that she wanted me and not him. This is probably the best male friend I have ever had - we just totally clicked. I obliged her behind his back. He found out and still offered to forgive me if I stopped seeing her. I agreed, yet continued to see her behind his back. All for a hot new relationship that lasted about three more weeks. He found out again and ended the friendship, rightfully. I am not a backwards-lo…
/r/MGTOW207/08/19 03:05 AM
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Interesting reading all of the comments. Your love for her involves a lot of admiration for her talents, which are the type of specific talents that you greatly admire in a person. In addition, collaborating with her allowed you to use the parts of yourself that you most enjoy, which you associate with some characteristic of hers, but in reality was just sort of a happy coincidence. It sounds like a quite unbalanced relationship, and a relationship in which one's admiration has reached worship, …
/r/MGTOW206/08/19 06:09 PM
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$6k tuition for an immensely valuable life lesson. I'd say that's a pretty good deal.
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 09:57 PM
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Same. Became quite 'numb' lol
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 09:31 PM
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Can confirm. I knew it would reduce my urges, but I was surprised at the magnitude.
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 09:16 PM
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51 y.o. here, no kids, recent divorce after 17 years together. I genuinely worry about this subject sometimes. I am not close with my family (we're all sort of surface-y polite to each other, there's no deep bond), have some good friends, but they have mostly busy traditional lives, so get-togethers are not super frequent. I have to fight my introversion to try and develop some more connections, and it can be a struggle much of the time. My solo physical hobbies like the gym and hiking are just …
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 11:57 PM
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One of the tenets of Zen philosophy is that the 'original mind' is free of categorization, judgment etc. Western culture is obsessed with categorizing everything/everybody, which leads to comparison, the 'Thief of Joy', as Teddy Roosevelt said.
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 01:51 AM
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I think you are on to something here. You have found the fine line between judgement and assessment. For example, the statement, "That guy is an asshole" is a judgement. But, rephrased as "that person's values don't align with mine" is an assessment that doesn't assign goodness or badness, superiority / inferiority and so forth. I see it as an important distinction that can help reduce bitterness and resentment, and focus on self improvement and strategies to align your life with your personal v…
/r/MGTOW228/07/19 03:05 AM
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I don't think I've ever nodded my head watching a video so much in my life. An excellent, very 'Zen' reminder to be aware of your Ego
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 02:01 AM
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This could not possibly be more spot-on
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 01:46 AM
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This
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 12:16 AM
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Can't frickin agree with this more. Can't even imagine having to raise a dependent(s) following a failed LTR
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 12:15 AM
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I can't emphasize enough, the role excersize and physical activity has played in helping me transition (divorced one year after 17 years together). There is no substitute for time as far as the fear of the future/unknown goes. You had a certain life in a certain place/way with a certain someone, and that drastic change will take time to get used to, no getting around it. Same for sadness, it just takes time for the intensity of the feeling to wane. Don't fight the feelings, let them come and und…
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 12:07 AM
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Very interesting, am hoping for the same result/feeling. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW218/07/19 12:46 PM
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To each their own. It's not my thing anymore, I have traveled a decent amount, have some nice memories. But ya I'm with ya, not interested in the logistics of getting places anymore. Here in the desert Southwest, there's plenty for me to see and do within a one day's drive for the rest of my days, if I so choose. To those who enjoy it, more power to them.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 01:09 AM
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Agree 100% with the sentiment that caring what others think will send one on an emotional rollercoaster. Placing one's emotional state in the hands of others, I can attest personally, is positively an awful feeling. I have struggled greatly with this weakness, and continue to work to improve my perspective in this area. As far as goals and aspirations, we each define those ourselves, and what we wish to do with our time and energy is each our own to decide. If someone wants to watch TV ten hours…
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 12:34 AM
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I would respond by saying that life in general is not as easy for an introvert, versus the extroverted go-getters, whether one incorporates MGTOW into their life or not. As a moderate introvert, I always struggled with building my group of friends, frequency of romantic relationships, strategic alignments with the right co-workers to advance in my job etc., through my 20s and 30s. I am brutally honest with myself when it comes to my introversion - I wish I was extroverted. I know many introverts…
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 03:49 AM
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At 51 and newly single for the first time in 20 years, my current (much lower than at 30, or even 40) sex drive means that the reward isn't close to commensurate with the effort required. The effort I'd need to put forth is higher than most men anyway, since I have zero 'game' (even though I am above average in attractiveness for my age). As far as hiring a 'pro', I just can't get past the transactional nature of this option. So, unless by some miracle a desirable woman comes on to me with liter…
/r/MGTOW07/07/19 02:55 AM
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51 here, divorced a year ago after 17 years, no kids, didn't get raped (the one upside of her cheating - she felt too guilty to take half my stuff. I live a very simple life with my dog, my very average middle class income producing small biz, and see my few friends and family on occasion (my friends are all more or less coupled, and my relatives.... ugh.... not worth the time to explain). I don't have a cent of debt, own my condo, have an OK amount of assets scratched up over the working years.…
/r/MGTOW207/07/19 12:49 AM
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Aw man, that brings back memories, happy birthday!
/r/MGTOW207/07/19 12:33 AM
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On a personal level, what NAWALT means for me specifically, is a woman who has traits, quite frankly, above what I deserve in the relationship marketplace, and is willing to settle for me. I think in an honest moment, that is what many of us really mean when we say we wish we could be with a NAWALT. I've had two long-term relationships (a 10yr gf and a wife for 17 years), and when I look back, I had outkicked my coverage on both occasions, in terms of looks and traits of professional ambition, v…
/r/MGTOW204/07/19 10:20 PM
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I happen to believe that hypergamy is much more 'nurture' than 'nature' for women, due to the laws of supply and demand. Try to imagine as a '5' guy, getting an unbelievable amount of attention from women, plenty of whom are '8' or occasionally above, are goal-oriented, successful, stay fit, etc. Would you 'date up'? Of course! How could Joe Sixpack settle for Karen the slightly overweight manager of a chain restaurant, when he can have Lauren, the hot, slim, disciplined, regional sales director…
/r/MGTOW227/06/19 10:03 PM
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Mountain biking during the good weather seasons (live in AZ so it's an oven for the next four months), and have recently gotten very addicted to the gym. The 'gains' or whatever are fine and all, but I go there 6 days a week for the endorphin hit. It's the best thing I've done for myself since my MGTOW life started about a year ago. There are the physical benefits, of course, but the mood improvement and sense of well being is priceless
/r/MGTOW227/06/19 09:45 PM
1

Always good to read such posts to remind me that I am not alone, or odd, as a MGTOW monk. My ingrained DNA and societal conditioning are a constant battle, I must admit.
/r/MGTOW227/06/19 09:38 PM
1

As someone who has never enjoyed the dynamic of heavy competition in any aspect other than athletics (of which I never had the athletic talent to compete at a particularly high level), the choice post-divorce, to not participate in the uber-competitive dating arena is an easy one for me. That is not to say that it does not disappoint me that things are as they are, but each day I try to come to better terms with it. The fact that I would never be attracted to a woman who, ironically I suppose, h…
/r/MGTOW226/06/19 03:18 PM
1

Having friends. Not having friends.
/r/MGTOW25/06/19 11:39 PM
3

Ya, we're made to feel embarrassed nowadays for moments of weakness. Sad
/r/MGTOW23/06/19 04:39 PM
3

I find them beautiful physically (well the ones that are, anyway). Checking them out at the gym or the grocery store costs nothing. Their presence actually helps me through my workout, it is a pleasant distraction. I'm proud that I've learned (finally) to convert my attraction into zero monetary or emotional losses, am not ashamed at all of the attraction itself.
/r/MGTOW23/06/19 04:29 PM
5

But why would they. It's so much easier to find guys to pay their way. I blame the men as much as I blame them. If I could manipulate women above my SMV into paying my way through life, I must admit that I probably would.
/r/MGTOW23/06/19 04:18 PM
3

A building full of shallow females and male douchebags, with terrible music played three times too loud? No thanks. Never interested me even when I was young and bluepilled.
/r/MGTOW223/06/19 04:09 PM
1

Been in two over 10 years, and a few much shorter. They all follow the same pattern chronologically, from (1) phenomenal, to (2)'meh', to (3)shit. It's just a question of intensity and duration of each stage. Finally no longer willing to put up with (2) and (3) just to get a relatively short dose of (1). The value is not even close to proportional even in the best circumstances.
/r/MGTOW223/06/19 01:43 PM
1

This
/r/MGTOW223/06/19 01:37 PM
1

I'm on autopilot professionally, have been for 10 years (51 yrs old), and perfectly content with it. My middle-class income small business generates enough cash flow, and my accumulated assets to this point, plus growth over the next 15 years will allow basically the same lifestyle in retirement, which is quite frugal. My daily motivation is to reduce discomfort and anxiety, and achieve contentment each day. This is done by getting my daily work done, and getting endorphins at the gym (I don't c…
/r/MGTOW223/06/19 01:35 PM
6

Tragic but true. It seemed so obvious to me AFTER the (now ex) wife displayed classic female nature (infidelity, hypergamy, monkeybranching). Prior to, I was in my late 40s and classic bluepill
/r/MGTOW22/06/19 02:03 AM
1

Well if you're so sure, then short the market and make a killing
/r/MGTOW222/06/19 01:53 AM
1

A funny thing happened shortly after I adopted an MGTOW mindset, and began a daily regimen at the gym. If I'm being honest with myself, part of my initial motivation included the perceived benefit of being more attractive to the ladies. I didn't want any relationship with them (not even 100% casual), I just wanted part of the benefit of my healthier lifestyle to be that I was more noticed.... a totally bullshit external validation. But, back to what happened. Just a couple of weeks into it, and …
/r/MGTOW218/06/19 12:32 AM
1

Same. Well said
/r/MGTOW216/06/19 03:02 PM
1

The irony is that a form of life (humans) has become so advanced, aware and intelligent as to defy DNA'S only purpose (to perpetuate itself), as shown by plummeting birth rates around the world. Far, far into the future, the human population will begin to contract rapidly. I happen to believe that, due to this result, life was never intended to be this advanced, because it is the ultimate irony. Life forms are supposed to procreate, no questions asked. r/MGTOW2, r/antinatlism, r/atheism. All sig…
/r/MGTOW216/06/19 02:54 PM
1

Tell us something that makes us believe you are not a 16 year old boy, trolling
/r/MGTOW216/06/19 02:47 PM
1

Investing untold hours and emotions to pursue something that is guaranteed to by a monetary loss at best, and a life changing financial and emotional devastation at worst. Goes to show how powerful imprinted DNA is
/r/MGTOW216/06/19 02:45 PM
2

This
/r/MGTOW12/06/19 02:15 AM
1

There will never be a shortage of idiots willing to part with their own money for something useless
/r/MGTOW12/06/19 02:14 AM
1

Enjoyed the read. Felt like you could have been describing me and where I'm at, in almost every regard.
/r/MGTOW211/06/19 02:45 AM
1

Well, because there are no such things as Sky Wizards
/r/MGTOW210/06/19 01:57 AM
1

Translation: "Is there some magical way I can communicate to this chick that I want to bang her, with absolutely no risk to my life or career whatsoever?“ Uh yea, that's a big n-o, dawg
/r/MGTOW210/06/19 01:56 AM
30

This. The return is not even remotely close to the investment in time, effort and money for me. To the guys that want to put in the work - they're all yours
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 02:51 PM
10

Even though I know that so many men are this desperate and stupid, actually reading these stories still fills me with sadness and irritation for a few moments. People just can't get out of their own way.
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 02:45 PM
3

"I'm sorry Kramer, those records are permanently sealed" Seinfeld
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 02:24 PM
5

Damn did you dodge a huge one. Had she taken it to Defcon 5, she would've taken your used condoms and tried to inseminate herself, and if successful, sentencing you to two decades of financial and emotional prison. So many would have continued to play Russian Roulette. Much respect to you....
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 02:19 PM
3

And, said pumpkin no longer provides BJs
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 01:41 PM
3

As a fan of Zen, your reply makes me happy
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 01:38 PM
1

Great point. I sometimes reminisce about my 17 yr marriage, and then remember it was about 2-3 years fantastic, 12 years of 'meh' and 3 years of shit. But initially, my brain defaults to it as positive until I think about it logically. Imprinted DNA and social conditioning I suppose.
/r/MGTOW209/06/19 03:41 AM
1

At 51, the urge is maybe once a week. A quick 15 minute tug and I'm onto other things. Maybe if I was younger/hornier, the investment in time, energy and resources would seem worthwhile. But it's not even close at this point. I miss the skin-on-skin contact, the snuggling much more. But it's manageable and not a big deal, still not worth the effort for me personally. And I can't mentally get past the transactional nature of an escorts or cuddlist, so that's not an option for me either
/r/MGTOW209/06/19 01:31 AM
1

Thanks for the best laugh of my day. Never heard that one before
/r/MGTOW209/06/19 01:25 AM
1

I do it because I am addicted to the endorphin hit. I feel great physically afterwords of course, but mentally my mood is elevated for a good 3-4 hours. And it's nice to feel proud of myself for busting my ass at the gym. And it just feels good to feel good. My secondary reason? I maintain a healthy lifestyle/diet because I want to live to see my sedentary, boozehound, overweight ex-wife die before me. Barring a terminal disease or accident, I have stacked the odds significantly in my favor.
/r/MGTOW208/06/19 01:37 AM
1

Ahh youth........they don't know what they don't know
/r/MGTOW202/06/19 02:12 AM
1

The combination of my 51 year age, my MGTOW realizations about female nature, and I suppose just general ability as I get older, to see how a situation will play out in its entirety, simply make the prize (an orgasm) unworthy of the effort by a long shot. I'm still a man, when I see a hot female, my DNA does DNA things, it gets my libido going. But I see her more as a physically beautiful, dangerous, walking sculpture now. As a young-un, I would associate outer beauty with virtue, when if anythi…
/r/MGTOW226/05/19 02:58 AM
1

This thread that follows your reply to the OP is what I love about MGTOW2. A fellow man admitting he's feeling weak and a bunch of dudes stepping up to help build him up in a positive way. Best exchange I've read on Reddit in a month. U got this VanDriver1
/r/MGTOW226/05/19 02:33 AM
2

"You were workin' as a waitress in a cocktail bar When I met you. I picked you out, I shook you up and turned you around. Turned you into someone new. Now five years later on, you've got the world at your feet. Success has been so easy for you" 'Don't You Want Me' by Human League, talking hypergamy 38 years ago
/r/MGTOW22/05/19 03:41 PM
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Likewise. I already know mine is almost nil (51 yrs old, make a very typical middle class living in a blue collar industry, average looking, and zero charisma lol.). It makes life so much simpler and contented.
/r/MGTOW20/05/19 08:41 PM
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This statement makes a lot of sense to me
/r/MGTOW19/03/19 02:14 AM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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