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Conversationrunaround_fruitcop/r/seduction21/07/22 05:39 PM
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OK. Interesting stand alone study. With 22,000 participants (men and women) I forget the % of who are men and who are women. But I think if even if it's 11,000 to a bit more of women in the study. It was a study done in 2006 In two city areas (Boston and San diego) I'm going to make a broad assumption in saying that around 11,000 women in two different city areas in a study dome in 2006 don't represent women as a whole in 2022. And if you use a single study at any point for forming very absolute…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 09:08 PM
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Wait. Ok. So a this is a study? With x amount of women and so if a woman who wasn't part of this study tells you her views that don't align to this study... she's lying about what she finds attractive? How many people were in this study? How widespread was it? Was it just one or two neighborhoods? States? Countries? Is it from areas where the culture is more shallow in attraction? There's not a lot of thought that goes into discussing what a study is actually showing and the credibility of the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:08 PM
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I believe, text when you want. Say what you need. The other person will follow suit if they like you and are on the same page If you don't lead the flow of conversation then the other person will have nothing to follow. Everyone needs emotional care even when just fucking. Before, during and after and none of it has to be romantic.
/r/seduction23/10/22 06:34 PM
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Yeah. So many people have too many rules on texts. It's so annoying and makes it so stress inducing when it should be easy and fun. If you have to play these games with a person They. Don't. Like. You. Like. That. Imo it's best to find people who match your texting/communicating style versus conforming to theirs constantly. I personally like to text occasionally, friends, family, and literally anyone I know, once in awhile to check up, see if anything is new. I genuinely give af about what peopl…
/r/seduction23/10/22 06:32 PM
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As a woman 100% sometimes dudes literally only hit us up to try and fuck. And even if I'm not looking for anything serious it's nice to feel talked to occasionally just because they enjoy your banter/chit chat or care a little about your day You don't have to go Oprah Winfrey and deep dive, but it's a fun and easy way to stay in touch and sends the message "even if we are actually only having sex, I respect you enough as a person to maintain this relationship until we both get what we want"
/r/seduction23/10/22 06:27 PM
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Literally couldn't have said it better. When my efforts, and attention and interest aren't reciprocated, I'll be sad for a while and hurt and leave. If a man wanted me he'd show me the SAME effort I put in. When a guy seems too cool to care. It translates that he doesn't care. If he doesn't care. Why stay where I'm not welcomed?
/r/seduction09/10/22 05:43 AM
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It's cuz insecure women who had to chase love from their parents fall easily to the men they have to work for. It's a cycle of abuse they faced as a child they're replaying into dating. So when you get serious with them you're throwing them off balance as they weren't taught what real love was as their parents weren't good models. This means when you show genuine interest these people get really scared because it's not normal for them and it makes their detached personalities fly away because th…
/r/seduction09/10/22 05:26 AM
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Then try not to lead her on
/r/seduction02/09/22 03:05 PM
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Well gaming can be fun if she's into it. But reddit isn't a skill in most people's opinions. And most people have more than one or two hobbies. Also, you can't get mad at others for not sharing interest in your hobbies. I'm sure to someone bee keeping is just the bees knees but boring af to someone else and "lame" That's not anyone's fault for not sharing interests. But also, if your hobbies consist of you being online most of the time and sitting and not going anywhere or doing anything that is…
/r/seduction02/09/22 05:57 AM
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She's basically asking if you won't change up on her once you get what you want
/r/seduction02/09/22 02:27 AM
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It's most likely a pic for her contacts and NOT a dick pic. Wtf
/r/seduction01/09/22 07:43 PM
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They usually want a pic for the contacts.
/r/seduction01/09/22 07:42 PM
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I mean. You reap what you sow. If you can't handle it then it's not a good idea to do it imo. Also, if they assume you're taking it more seriously and you let them believe that then, yeah.... Maybe you should let them know youre not dating dating them and aren't serious. If they're hoping for a future and you're not giving them that and you're aware of it and then you post something and they all show up to support you, it's your job to let them all know your intentions at this point and or face …
/r/seduction31/08/22 06:57 PM
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Made your bed and you gotta lay in it. That's kinda all you can do/expect
/r/seduction31/08/22 06:19 PM
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They're telling you the issue themselves. Listen to them. They think you're not interested. They don't want to deal with someone who doesn't have the time and or no availability to touch base once or twice in between dates. You don't have to call or be extra. Just a few "how are you"s and what not. The don't text women rule is dumb. Yes, dint over text and be weird but you fo have to show some level of interest or people will assume you aren't interested or too busy (so then what's the point of …
/r/seduction31/08/22 03:26 PM
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Yes. Communicate your needs. People can't read minds even if we'd like them to. There's a certain level of talking to people about our boundaries, desires, and needs are. If I don't know the other person is upset I haven't texted in three days, they can't get upset at me if they never told me to fix a bad habit I didn't know I had. This is what women mean by being good at communication. Taking the guess work out of that need to be certain (things like boundaries)
/r/seduction30/08/22 11:17 PM
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As a quote says Bravery is not the absence of fear. It is doing what must be done (and or the right thing) inspite of the fear. The scarier the thing and the more a person prevails makes them brave. Being a man isn't about being fearless. All humans get scared. It's about realizing you are scared. Being ok with it and doing what needs to be done in the face of that fear
/r/seduction29/08/22 04:33 PM
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Yeah. Sounds like she needs therapy But in all honesty I hope she really gets the help she needs for her own happiness
/r/seduction29/08/22 12:48 AM
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Ehh women are taught to give men chances because there's so many men saying to give the nice ones a chance and how it's not fair to them. Blah blah. So, even if a woman doesn't feel the chemistry she feels obligated to give the guy a chance so she doesnt feel like a bitch or that if the guy is nice she doesn't want to just give up after the first date because maybe in a different setting there would be more chemistry. So she probably just wanted to give it another shot cuz she liked you as a per…
/r/seduction29/08/22 12:42 AM
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She might not want you to pay for it so you don't expect sex later on if she's not interested. A lot of guys get jaded and bitter at women if they pay for dates and don't get anything in return
/r/seduction29/08/22 12:26 AM
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Thanks for listening! I appreciate it!
/r/seduction27/08/22 12:53 AM
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Basically a woman doesn't want to FEEL used. So if you lie (or she thinks you've lied) about your intentions, she will be mad, but if you're open and honest with it then sure, she may be down. Loads of women looking for boyfriends are still down for casual sex occasionally (cuz human needs) but DONT want them to fake being boyfriend potential if he only wants to fuck. Obviously you're not going to be so overt with the "I just wanna fuck" But, it's annoying to women who are looking for boyfriends…
/r/seduction26/08/22 08:05 PM
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Sorry in advance for the long reply. I drank too much coffee It's hard to say. Be upfront. If she's hinting she doesn't want a guy to just fuck and leave, if that's what you intend, don't act like you're there for more. Subtly drop hints, or be blunt, and talk about how you don't want anything serious. Be KIND but don't build too much emotional bonding like swapping trauma stories if you only intend to have sex. Keep emotions at a distance on purpose to not cause her fire alarms to go off. Yes, …
/r/seduction26/08/22 07:53 PM
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Also players all use the same tricks in the book. (Mostly) so wisened and seasoned women get the vibe if you're going along what they've already been through and may not want to give it up to just another schmuck who may be using their emotions and vulnerability to just fuck and run leaving them annoyed they trusted yet another dude pretending to care about them as humans when in reality he may just want pussy. Not saying this is you, but that's their perspective. A lot of dudes use relationship…
/r/seduction26/08/22 06:41 PM
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Because negative outweighs the good. When you think of your dates, the worst ones normally stick out the most. It's psychology to remember the pain because it evolutionary teaches us to avoid it. We are programmed as humans to remember the AMAZING and the HORRIBLE. Since most dates are either ok. Or HORRIBLE. Especially for women when the horrible can get really really bad and scary, they are more likely to remember it. So 100 bland to good ish dates and 10 terrible and awful emotionally scaring…
/r/seduction26/08/22 06:36 PM
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Well, it's more than one dog. It's like dog after dog after dog.
/r/seduction26/08/22 12:52 PM
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Yeah. It's a hard balance. Be nice and kind but definitely let them know for sure your intentions. Like if you don't feel like outright saying it, make sure they know Cuz if they think there's a possibility of a relationship they cling onto it like it's dear life and get hurt if that wasn't your intention So to be less fuck boy ish it's best to still be 100% how you are but make sure you talk and say things that make her aware you're just hooking up/casual (if that's what you're looking for)
/r/seduction26/08/22 02:39 AM
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Basically they don't trust you because you remind them of previous fuck boys
/r/seduction26/08/22 01:15 AM
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It doesn't matter. Cuz they're telling this to you because they think you're pretending to be friendly to fuck around then leave.
/r/seduction26/08/22 01:14 AM
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Ok
/r/seduction26/08/22 01:14 AM
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A good lesson to learn as a man Just because you find her attractive doesn't mean she's trying to attract you
/r/seduction26/08/22 12:26 AM
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Of course!!
/r/seduction26/08/22 12:25 AM
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It's because a lot of guys play nice and build fake trust and friendship to fuck, run and stop the fake friendship and trust, showing these women the trust built wasn't real. So, this keeps happening making women more bitter and jaded.
/r/seduction26/08/22 12:22 AM
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Most women don't think about camel toes. And are often more embarrassed than not when it's pointed out to us. Tight fitting clothes give women a camel toe. And the benefits of these clothes outweigh the negative aspect of accidently and embarrassingly getting a camel toe
/r/seduction26/08/22 12:21 AM
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Unless I'm missing a "/s" Because camel toe is like a wedgie. It's usually an accident and embarrassing for women. Women often wear tight clothing at the gym because it allows for flexibility and movement and sweating. We could wear short shorts like men do, but then we'd have to maybe wear uncomfortable undergarments to make sure we don't flash people. Work out clothes are meant to be as minimalist as possible due to the nature of what physical work is. So when women wear something that inadver…
/r/seduction25/08/22 11:32 PM
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Well if she's flirty and you respond with non flirty or a stale message you're basically telling her the flirting is not welcome and you're not interested. If she flirts show her you're interested in flirting. If she's acting all hot and sexy and then acts cold after you reply it's because she's trying to show you what she thinks you're doing to her.
/r/seduction25/08/22 03:05 PM
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Do you know the bouncer? If not you're straight up judging a man for a job with no prior knowledge about who he is. Maybe he's a really nice and good guy and they have a lot in common. Firstly you're assuming a lot about two people. You're assuming that the guy is a douche because of his job and 2nd you're judging the woman you like because she CHOSE to date a guy you THINK isn't a good person or whatever your grief with him is over you. The bouncer isn't a bad guy just because the girl you like…
/r/seduction25/08/22 03:02 PM
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Why would it be brought up? Like who brings up casual hooking up in everyday conversations unless you ask? Almost never do I talk to the opposite sex about my sexual pursuits because it's weird. If she's doing that then idk. I personally don't like people who go around discussing their sexual exploits to me. So I usually ask them to consider my feelings because it makes me uneasy.
/r/seduction23/08/22 11:59 PM
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Is she your girlfriend? If she has no obligation to only sleep with you then you have absolutely 0 say in who or when or how she has consenting sex with Unless you're poly and have an agreement. If you cannot commit to a woman then you can never expect her to commit to you So, more info is needed on what yalls dynamic actually is
/r/seduction23/08/22 10:25 PM
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Any sane woman would report you for that. Especially since as an uber driver You know where they live. That's not screaming "this person is safe" it's screaming "holy crap my uber driver who just dropped me off and knows where I live wants to fuck me!" Which is creepy
/r/seduction21/08/22 09:16 PM
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Ok. Got it. To you, manipulating people is good. To say it's not is sexist. Emotional abuse is moral and women now have a free pass to manipulate men as well for whatever they want. Like money and assets and can now pretend to love the man without actually loving him (or liking him) to get money. This is all okay according to you and your logic. Let's all go around pretending to care about people or else we are sexist
/r/seduction20/08/22 06:05 PM
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So... its now misogynistic to say manipulation is bad? So is it misandry to say men getting manipulated by women for their money is bad? What you said is wildly obtuse.
/r/seduction20/08/22 01:13 PM
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Dude. Do what you want but you seem more interested in playing games. The more you act confusing the more confused and then ultimately bored she will become especially if she has more stable guys around her. You seem too caught up on what she says and does for you. Relax. She hardly knows you and vice versa. And you can't get mad at her for not wanting any more dates if it turns into that. If you put pressure on her then she's gonna flee. You can't make people do what you want. If you wanna see …
/r/seduction19/08/22 04:42 PM
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It's a sarcastic reply. So, it's funny and saves face a bit
/r/seduction19/08/22 04:36 PM
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A "no" is a good enough reason When you press a "no" to girls and women it shows you lack the understanding of boundaries. If you are unable to take a "no" to a simple date what else would you be unable to take a "no" for. That's women's mind process. She's not lazy. She's not bad for saying no. Take it for it is and move on. Your inability to control your emotions is what's getting in your way. Focus on dealing with that and not trying to find the exact reason she didn't want to go out. Maybe s…
/r/seduction19/08/22 04:30 PM
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Send a gif of the GOT "winter is coming"
/r/seduction19/08/22 05:02 AM
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In a world where everyone is able to make money, you have to start realizing that's not what women look for. Stability and being sane while being not fake (genuine) and actually nice and respectful is what creates attraction now a days. Women who do well on their own still want a provider esque man but not financially if they have their own jobs. They're looking for men to be able to emotionally provide and create a life that's worth being involved in. That could be an adventurous life or peacef…
/r/seduction18/08/22 10:23 PM
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This is emotional manipulation. Really? Getting people emotionally vulnerable so you can fuck them? This is literally pretending to build trust and friendship with a person and using them for your own wants. Cruel
/r/seduction18/08/22 07:03 PM
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If a man makes it his main hobby yes. Meeting new people is normal but not if it's his driving force for anything. Men being "good" to get women is weird. Men being "good" for themselves and naturally getting more friends and or women's attention is normal. It's like if you started a hobby to meet women and don't actually care for the hobby that's just ew. But if you genuinely find interest in doing activities and such and as a side effect meet people and women... that's a green flag Edit: and t…
/r/seduction14/08/22 07:41 PM
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Play along. It's not a shit test. They're nervous and trying to break any tension with a joke. Over exaggerate and say that you're a regular hannibal lector or something
/r/seduction14/08/22 04:23 PM
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I'm 90% sure they mean it as a joke..... That you may be taking too much to heart
/r/seduction14/08/22 03:47 PM
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Treat others the way you'd like to be treated. If you were the women, how would you like to be handled? If you figure that out, that's your answer
/r/seduction14/08/22 11:01 AM
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If they flirt with you yeah. But if he just goes around flirting with everyone he is somewhat close to, it can come off as desperate.
/r/seduction14/08/22 01:54 AM
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If you flirt with a bunch of friends who are women especially if they're in the same social group they may talk amongst each other about your habit with flirting with your friends who are women.
/r/seduction13/08/22 04:45 PM
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No. You get over it. It's polite to point out fixable things. A crooked tie. Something in a person's teeth an eyelash coming off. Etc etc. You fix it. Feel embarrassed for 3 seconds and move on
/r/seduction13/08/22 02:01 AM
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While this is true, verbalized may be good if she's into words of affirmation. She may be insecure and still need to hear it from the horses mouth to actually believe it
/r/seduction10/08/22 12:12 AM
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There are plenty of smart and geeky girls who party though. They aren't related. That's introvert versus extrovert and not all geeky or nerdy esque people are introverts. There are sororities and fraternities too that cater to geeky people and party just as hard as the jocks or others
/r/seduction10/08/22 12:08 AM
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If you do it intentionally to elicite an emotional reaction that's manipulation as that's the definition of manipulation
/r/seduction09/08/22 07:04 PM
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It works to manipulate a person's emotions rather than gaining actual trust and rapport You supply dopamine then deplete it then supply it and over and over you do this which causes a false sense of attachment and care from your target towards you They don't actually like YOU. Just the dopamine rush and addiction for that dopamine you cause.
/r/seduction09/08/22 07:00 PM
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And a person doing hot and cold/push and pull comes off as unstable and or unreliable. If I can't get in touch with a person that I like and get what I want from them because they're busy doing this, I'm not staying. Only insecure women who crave attention stuck around for this shit
/r/seduction09/08/22 06:57 PM
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Causing quick changes in a person's emotions by acting hot and cold. There and then not there. Is manipulation. It's the definition of playing games.
/r/seduction09/08/22 06:56 PM
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Yeah... its like. Bruv as a woman, I've accidentally thought people were older than they were a few times, and it happens. Definitely can't be avoided. But it's not a recurring issue in my dating life nor will it ever be.
/r/seduction08/08/22 02:51 PM
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If a person keeps hitting on people with parents who are literally right there that's 100% on op and no if ands or buts because that's strange. If he approached people who looked around the same age. A gaggle of older teens or young 20s etc, then I can understand some honest confusion. But how can you go up to a group with obvious varying ages of people and assume they aren't parent and child. And since this keeps happening to OP there's really no excuse. I know 17 to 21 can be tricky to see, bu…
/r/seduction08/08/22 02:47 PM
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Yeah. But if they're exclaiming it in a defensive way then what they mean is they are repulsed by OPs behavior, most likely indicating the child is actually a kid kid and not someone who's around the age of 20. Nobody in their right mind yells or exclaims anything for just flirting with someone who's 20, but people WOULD do that if the person in question was clearly a minor. Especially if op is or looks much older, you can't come across as anything but creepy if you have a mom very angrily telli…
/r/seduction08/08/22 02:42 PM
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Exactly! So many dudes have an external perception of masculinity that's not even their own that they try to live up to then, obviously, get hurt when they put up that facade for everyone else's perception of manliness and people don't like that person for who they actually are. It's like. So many people think being confident falls under being masculine. When in reality confidence is being secure in yourself as the best version of yourself. Be who you are and be confident in that and secure and …
/r/seduction08/08/22 02:34 PM
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Not really.... if im older than 17 and someone started hitting on me in front of my parents they wouldnt say I'm just a child. They might be like bro, wtf, in front of family? But no one really is like "they're just a child!!!" When it's not in fact just a child. If this is something op continues to face it's more than likely a him problem. If he can't tell people's ages and immediately gets turned down and told to back off because the person in question is a minor... that's his issue through an…
/r/seduction08/08/22 02:17 PM
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Honestly as a bisexuality woman, a lot of men mistake what's women find attractive as masculine stuff. While I can't speak for everyone. There's a difference in opinion on what's masculine to each person. And attraction varies from each person as well "Women like dominant masculine men" Kind of is a blanket statement and generalization. It's the women they know who are attracted to this. Which in the grand scheme of things is not many women. (Even if you've slept with 200 women, this is not the …
/r/seduction08/08/22 02:07 PM
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Once or twice is totally normal. To have the issue so many times you make a post about it While also calling girls women when that indicates they are adults when the issue is they are minors. So his phrasing is a bit off too. If it's something that's happening frequently then there's something wrong with op and his ability to tell age If he's with a teen and their mother.... how could you not tell its mother and daughter (except with rare cases) But no 30 plus year old women willingly hangout wi…
/r/seduction08/08/22 01:53 PM
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If the parent intervenes and says "she's just a child" I'm assuming he's either much older than the teenage years (25 plus) OR he's going after people who aren't 17/18 But 14/15 and just oblivious to why a 30 plus year old woman would be with a person in their teens (of any age tbh why would a 30 plus year old woman hangout with 16,17,18,19 year olds for fun)
/r/seduction08/08/22 01:49 PM
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Minors aren't women. Stop saying that. There are no such thing as minors who are women. Girls. They are Girls. You can't be a boy and a man. (A 16 year old boy isn't a man who is a minor) Same with girls/women That type of talking is kinda creepy imo. And not helping you with your case. Stop going after a certain age range if this is a thing you keep running into.
/r/seduction08/08/22 01:45 PM
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If she texts text. If she doesnt don't. If she stops it may mean you stopped. If both people are waiting for the other one to text because both are afraid to be the only ones initiating... then congrats... modern dating
/r/seduction07/08/22 02:41 AM
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I mean.... is that not what a first date is and they're just being blunt?
/r/seduction07/08/22 02:39 AM
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You invited everyone over... two remained... and you were just making out with a chick while you were blasted and you're confused why her friend took her home? It seems like. Alcohol was involved... you tried to get everyone to your place and then third wheeled what was most likely the last girl and the DD. A lot of times women don't go home from a group or a friend while out because of alcohol and the fact men CAN be dangerous or creepy. Women often have fun and leave with the people they came …
/r/seduction06/08/22 03:54 PM
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Smile. Don't do the whole looks candid but isn't. It's either candid or you posed. Don't pretend you didn't if you did. It's annoying. Show that you can and do smile. 0 smiles is weird. Don't have a group photo as first photo. Women swipe fast af and don't care to figure out which one is you. Don't talk boringly about a favorite basic food and your dog. We get it. Tacos, sushi and your dog. "I'm looking for a woman who shares my sense of humor and we can get along" (really because I thought we a…
/r/seduction06/08/22 12:25 PM
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Her hot photos aren't for you... and you bringing up you not caring about sex while she's been posting those photos will just be weird. Women view men who say, "I'm not x" "I don't do x" Actually in experience do do those things. "I'm a nice guy" nope, he's not "I'm not like those guys who hurt you" usually not true "I'm not into sex like that" to us, is usually not true. A lot of women are used to men just saying what they think we want to hear as women. She's single. Those posts aren't for you…
/r/seduction06/08/22 12:05 PM
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Actively having sex or casual sex does not disqualify a person from being single. Plenty of people are single and occasionally hookup. Now 3 people at a time is a lot. But that's seriously an odd outlook on singlehood Should I, as a woman, expect men I date to not be getting laid to be considered single? I get it. I don't want a guy fucking 3 women at the same time just as much as I'd argue if I was a man I wouldn't want the female version of that. But I'd expect a man who is single to occasiona…
/r/seduction04/08/22 04:22 PM
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That bit about where you said looking for a girlfriend who isn't "single" and hooking up with 3 different dudes. Considering the op in a different comment mentioned women who aren't dating is what he considers single... I'm a bit perplexed on how people can get dates from people who aren't dating. And my main point is just because she's single and dating multiple men, does not entail hooking up.
/r/seduction04/08/22 04:09 PM
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Cuz you skipped right over the getting to know her phase. Let her talk about what she wants to for a bit. Ask questions about things she brings up. If you just skip this phase it's likely she feels like you just started talking to her for one reason. You need to show her, if you like her, that there's more to you than flirting and just that basic stuff. Engage in what she wants to discuss then gauge where your standing is then flirt and stuff once you've actually had her invest emotion into you …
/r/seduction04/08/22 04:07 PM
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Right. Getting casual sex from men is easy as a woman, but actually going on dates and finding men who are there for more than sex is tiring, confusing, and hard. If we put out on the first few dates we are easy If we wait though we are too difficult and hard and playing games and not worth it.
/r/seduction04/08/22 03:59 PM
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But dating and hooking up are different. If she's single and not dating it means she won't be interested or invested in a date with you or anyone looking for a ltr. You kind of have to look for women IN the dating scene to get a girlfriend. You can't magically get a girlfriend who is single and NOT dating anyone. (Dating just means going on dates and nothing serious) You can go on dates and not hookup with anyone. But it's really odd to expect to find a woman who is single and not interested in …
/r/seduction04/08/22 03:57 PM
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So...? What? Are you trying to go after women who dont date? Or aren't dating? This would mean that they'd not want a date with you since they aren't dating.... Single to me, means non exclusive or long term. Ie a man can be single but go on a date every few weeks. But yes, if you're wondering if there are women not looking for a relationship and are single. Ie, they aren't dating and don't really talk to many suitors then yes, they exist. But idk man, single people date...
/r/seduction04/08/22 03:53 PM
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If you hit her with supportive texts THEN flirty ones she may think the supportive and friendly texts are only meant to get into her pants and or on a date rather than genuinely checking up on her since you're genuinely concerned for her. Maybe cool it with the flirting and just be there for her until you can get to the flirting without it seeming like the only thing you want is her romantic or sexual attention Edit: or find out a way to send flirty messages that convey support for her bad day/s…
/r/seduction04/08/22 03:49 PM
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It's normal to want STD results. You need to get them done too as well.
/r/seduction04/08/22 05:57 AM
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Yeah. That's why I never settle with people just cuz the sex is good. Can cloud peoples actual chemistry and compatibility
/r/seduction04/08/22 05:24 AM
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Yeah. It doesn't work to get sex but women do need a personality for a guy to want to actually commit.
/r/seduction04/08/22 05:19 AM
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Of course. But you can't force physical attraction only mental attraction. And that comes from being a confident version of your genuine self rather than just a copy and pasted smooth talking nice dude
/r/seduction04/08/22 05:15 AM
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Yeah. That's why I said a confident version of yourself. At the end kf the day. Attraction is primal. You can be the best dude with confidence but that spark of attraction may not click in one person it does in another.
/r/seduction04/08/22 05:10 AM
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Yeah. In dating and with women. Women want someone who isn't just gonna disagree with then 24/7 and or agree with them 24/7 They want to have a conversation that ends up being enjoyable and like they got to actually know you or learn about you. Your opinions. Likes and dislikes etc. If it's all just smooth talk there's no emotional investment on anyone's part and can get boring
/r/seduction03/08/22 07:20 PM
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Sorry if this came off rude, but I often get floored when men realize that just being who they are and having them and their opinions and thoughts is what gets them laid while having way more success in dating too. It's about being a confident but authentic version of yourself that makes people drawn to you.
/r/seduction03/08/22 07:13 PM
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Are you coming to the conclusion that just being a confident version of your self has ALWAYS been the best way to get women? I mean, I know through trial and error people come to different conclusions. But with dating the only thing women look for is someone they actually get along with who they also find fuckable. Of course you want to weed out the people who don't jell with you. Being overly nice is just one of those persona women see right through. When you actually have your own opinions and…
/r/seduction03/08/22 07:12 PM
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Copy and pasted vibe. Like when I tune into my dating apps and it's too on the nose like it's copy and pasted and sent to everyone Same with irl. If I've heard it and it seems routine I instantly get the ick. Luke bruh. Been there and done that.. Gets so boring when everyone acts the same way rather than just have a normal conversation Also too domineering. There's a fine line between leading and being controlling. Stating rather than asking. And that whole "lemme guess. You like X?" I like peop…
/r/seduction03/08/22 05:59 AM
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He's probably talking to really insecure women
/r/seduction03/08/22 05:46 AM
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As a woman with anxiety of touch it is so weird for me to be touched. It's not bad per se. I'm not angry at them for trying but it's like fake romantic touches are weird for me but I can do sexual touches just fine because it takes no emotions. Ie. Emotional intimate seeming touches put me off. But sexual ones are more exciting But, idk if she's the same. Just thinking out loud ish. I like to not show my feelings on my face so I don't give all my cards away. Maybe she's doing the same
/r/seduction03/08/22 05:43 AM
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Women often get dumped after a dude fucks em after the 1st couple of dates. Women are sometimes seen as easy and not worth pursuing if they give it up that easily. So she's letting you know she doesn't want to be easy since if she acts that way, you'll most likely just stop talking to her (in her head)
/r/seduction03/08/22 05:37 AM
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Ehh. Probably not. She tolerated him enough to marry him and get the money and finer things in life
/r/seduction02/08/22 07:17 AM
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Same reason as men may not really enjoy sleeping with women who are super easy to get. The chase and such is something all humans enjoy
/r/seduction02/08/22 12:21 AM
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Women get nervous too. Not all women are going to indicate they are interested because they may be shy.
/r/seduction01/08/22 10:22 PM
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If you're gone from home AND not talking to her, there's no reason for her to think about you in a good light. You literally left. Physically and mentally wise. She's gonna be sad for a bit if she liked you then say "Why should I feel so sad if I can just go get another dude. He's not into me, so I'm not going to try to deal with a guy who's out of town anyway" And move onto someone literally closer and more available. There's a point when if you're not available enough a woman will often think …
/r/seduction01/08/22 03:32 PM
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Umm. Don't ask strangers if they workout. It implies directly you've been looking at them sexually and may creep them out in everyday situations if that's not what they're trying to do She's just buying groceries and a guy is asking her if she works out and is uncomfortable because you're literally letting her blatantly know you're seeing her as something worth trying to get sex from. A sexual object. So she's obviously gonna try to not engage because you creeper her out
/r/seduction01/08/22 03:24 PM
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Yeah, and maybe it should be equal efforts versus one person doing everything You doing nothing and having her do everything is you just becoming what hurt you. That's not fair for anyone
/r/seduction31/07/22 05:26 PM
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Exactly. If two people have already been on at least one date, if the other one, particularly the dude, doesn't show as much interest he's not into her. In my experience at least
/r/seduction30/07/22 11:31 PM
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I mean, as a woman, unfortunately, we have come across many men we invest in and pursue who Ultimately were never invested or cared So, being an outlier doesn't really apply to the majority of men. Many men, sure get nervous, but when they're already have had dates or whatever, if he initiates nothing or very little, he's not interested Maybe when first approaching men don't always pursue but when dating has already started, if the other person very rarely initiates or etc then it's obvious they…
/r/seduction30/07/22 09:30 PM
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Also, men who move slow typically make that clear and can help assure the other person there is interest but a level of understanding that it can't move too fast for protection of feelings etc
/r/seduction30/07/22 08:23 PM
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Yeah, but at a certain point there's a no movement from him and if I feel more invested I feel like I'm being needy or the crazy person getting too attached. So I typically cut my losses and assume if there's not a certain level of interest from him then I stop and leave because I'm not going to get hurt again. Investment should relatively be equal or else one person has more attachment and that can get messy if the other person does not share the same feelings
/r/seduction30/07/22 08:22 PM
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Exactly! Yeah! That's what it's called. You're right... love has very little to do with it... if anything at all.
/r/seduction30/07/22 08:20 PM
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Convenience. Exactly. Settling to just get the bare minimum of a relationship will assure it'll fail
/r/seduction30/07/22 08:14 PM
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Yeah, exactly
/r/seduction30/07/22 08:13 PM
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Ok, but again. She wasn't being a cockblock to hurt you or ruin you She was doing it because she legitimately saw you as a player and went to warn the other chick that that's what you are You being a player is no one's business until you make it theirs And you did just that. Don't get upset that what you are got you into a bit of a pickle. You're allowed to play the field and have fun, but don't get upset when others don't enjoy being played. Not everyone will like or appreciate it and you can't…
/r/seduction30/07/22 07:52 PM
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Naw I just bet someone saw and or he was suspicious so had someone spy and she got caught. I don't think he was the gardener in disguise she would have 100% known it was him. She didn't like him as a person. She was using him... which honestly he was too. He liked her sex. So it's always a lose lose situation. Classic man uses hot young thing for sex and she uses him for money. They most likely both cheated on each other at some point Shallow relationships never work If a man only looks for the …
/r/seduction30/07/22 07:48 PM
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That's extreme. She probably saw you as a player and a predator type of persona and noticed you playing the field and just warned a woman, whom arguably don't like being played, that you were clearly playing the field. You can't get mad at women when you get caught playing the game. Own up to it and don't blame her. It's not her fault you obviously approached more than one woman And who knows, maybe they knew each other. If you are seen as a man CLEALRY being a player Then you WILL be seen as th…
/r/seduction30/07/22 07:44 PM
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I've learned that when a man doesn't pursue you, he's not interested. Men naturally pursue. So if they don't, it's usually my cue to they're not really interested
/r/seduction30/07/22 07:39 PM
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If you use money to attract someone they won't care about you, but the money. Lust wise the person you attracted with superficial things, will go out and look what you're not providing Ie. Lustful sex and or an actual emotional bond When you attract people with shallowness you will only have shallow people in your lives If you can ONLY provide money, she WILL go find what she emotionally and physically needs elsewhere
/r/seduction30/07/22 07:37 PM
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Just say you don't like social media. It's not weird What is weird is an ex having access to your ig Or anyone that's not you...
/r/seduction30/07/22 12:00 AM
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There's never a real excuse to lie to someone to get your dick wet. I get small lies (everyone is guilty) but changing stories about who you are is literally saying "You're sleeping with guy A, but im really guy B" It's slimy and dishonest. A person with actual "game" 🙄 doesn't need to lie about his life and or aspects of himself to get women. I'm not saying you need to be a Saint, but purposefully faking things and or outright lying about something is shitty person behavior. Plus if you attract…
/r/seduction25/07/22 06:05 AM
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Also, not all women smile when flirting or know how to eye contact smile flirt. As I mentioned I'm adhd but I'm also not all socially there and idc to be a the time. And I really do not get flirting at all. Especially non verbal. So maybe she's just like. "Huh. We are looking at each other. He's sorta good looking. I wonder what's going to happen? Do I look ok? Or am I fay in this? Did I do something weird?" Ehh. We get nervous about interacting too. And (I saw a comment snarkily talking about w…
/r/seduction25/07/22 04:15 AM
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I'm adhd. I blank out and zone into space. Sometimes I'm looking at asses, tits, walls or people. If I do this and a dude is smiling I'm like whoops. Didn't mean to make eye contact and if I smile he'll come over... so I just continue to uhh. Be weird and stare off
/r/seduction25/07/22 04:10 AM
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If she likes you because you're nice, don't ruin that perception for her. If her reality is "I like this guy because he's so nice" And you basically shatter that, then you may turn her off if she's into you. It'd be like if I told a guy I like that he has blue eyes and then he shows up to our date with brown colored contact lenses in... like? If it's something that REALLY bothers you then just make a joke about how that's the first time you've ever heard that and wink.
/r/seduction25/07/22 04:05 AM
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Right? People block people so they don't have to talk to them or see them etc. It's not a shit test. It's simply them not wanting to be bothered by OP. End of story.
/r/seduction25/07/22 03:59 AM
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They blocked you... and you made another profile to message them? Thats.... well, that's creepy to them and I'd block you so fast if I did that. If they blocked you... let it go and move on. Maybe something you did made them nervous so they blocked you and or idk? Who cares? Doesn't matter. Don't message them and move on.
/r/seduction25/07/22 03:57 AM
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Oooof. Wow. No no. It's totally obvious what you're trying to do and it'd be a HUGE red flag and she'd Hella not be interested. And if she doesn't get what you're trying to do, she will think she's not your priority and be like... well tf? If you made other plans while we had a plan, you're wither dumb, unreliable, or incapable of time management and scheduling so no. If you wanna know if you're still on. Ask. Hey! Haven't heard from you in a bit. Just wanna make sure we are still on for our dat…
/r/seduction25/07/22 03:52 AM
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I would also question a person's relationship with their friends and family too. If they are willing to do something they AGREED would end a relationship, what do they do behind their friends and family's backs? A lot of cheaters (who are habitual) tend to be shitty friends, sons/daughters, siblings, roommates, etc, because trust and respect doesn't matter because what matters to them is their instant gratifications and not long term meaningful relationships (platonic, familiar, and romantic and…
/r/seduction25/07/22 03:46 AM
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Anyone who cheats is not good in my books. A relationship is two (or more) people engaging in a set of rules based on what's supposed to be love and trust and loyalty. If you would ruin a lifetime with a person for 30 minutes of just sex then relationships, trust, loyalty and respect don't matter to you. Men and women who can't grasp respect are people who cheat. If you can't respect your partner enough to have a conversation about certain needs, emotional or physical, then that's an issue that …
/r/seduction25/07/22 03:44 AM
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Some women like the "game" too. To be chased and or chasing you. She's just letting you know it was really easy to get you. And or she wasn't THAT easy. Either, you were too easy... And or just asking for a kiss was too easy and not going to work. It depends. It's basically an invite to have more fun mentally sparing (some women like that stuff) If it's not your cuppa tea move on. If it excites you, go for it
/r/seduction25/07/22 03:38 AM
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If you offer someone something, no offense, don't be upset if they accept. Not everyone assumes a free drink MEANS they have to talk to you. I have a daft friend who literally took 5 dates to realize what Netflix and chill was "They all keep trying to have sex with me!" Like duh. But also not everyone just automatically assumes if you're offering something you're really asking for something too If you offer a drink ALWAYS ask for something verbally in return. "I'll buy you a drink if we can sit …
/r/seduction25/07/22 03:30 AM
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Get the hook up stuff out of your system. If you wanna fuck and date around do it, and make that CLEAR. But if you start hooking up with people you wanna date, it's gonna be way harder to actually get anything long term. If im fwb with 2 or 3 dudes and one starts talking about long term crap... like why get in a fwbs or just "hookup" If you want sex go get just sex. But if you want a long term relationship be honest with yourself and don't start getting into situationships with people cuz you do…
/r/seduction25/07/22 03:19 AM
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Unless I've met you irl or on a dating app, I ignore the hundreds of unopened DMs that ALL start like that. Idk who any of them are, where they are from etc etc. And they all say literally the same exact thing. I get marriage proposals daily. I get guys propositioning sex. I get dudes of every possible lot... I don't view Instagram as a dating app, but unfortunately I guess some people do. It's not that I see what you're doing as wrong. Or morally incorrect. It's not bad. But it does get cliche …
/r/seduction25/07/22 03:15 AM
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Idk kinda reminds me of how I've met a lot of guys who literally can't understand why women find benadict cumberbatch hot. Your perception of beauty and attractiveness doesn't translate to every other person. Not all men are looking for the type of women you like. So what you see as bleh. Average or ick. May be hundreds of other guys cups of tea and it's NEVER your place to purposefully make a person feel bad because other men find them attractive But THAT or THOSE people don't find you attracti…
/r/seduction25/07/22 03:08 AM
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What does that even mean? So a woman who's page is getting more likes is shown less at certain times? How can you gauge ego and stuff and subjective things like beauty on an app. If you have an app with 100 men and 100 women. And there are 10 profiles that are women who keep getting liked.... how is it fair to bump that down if that's what the men who are coming to the dating app are looking for? If there are 10 men's profiles that keep getting liked, then why would you bump those down because t…
/r/seduction25/07/22 03:05 AM
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Bruh calls you autistic for having a differing opinion about an app 😑🤪
/r/seduction25/07/22 02:56 AM
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This may be your issue? Someone disagrees with you... and isn't even rude about it in any way and you call the autistic which shows you don't like when you're disagreed with and or that anyone who thinks a certain way MUST have what you probably deem as a mental deficit (which autism isn't) "I sense autism" 😵😵‍💫 do you talk to people irl like this? This is so cold and rude and mean
/r/seduction25/07/22 02:55 AM
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I mean, if you don't think men use tinder as free pussy delivery, then you may be a bit delusional. And if that's how people WANT to live their lives that's their prerogative. I don't think it's exactly ahem nice. But it's their lives and I can't get mad at men and women wanting dick or pussy
/r/seduction25/07/22 02:52 AM
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What does more fair for the man mean? What would that entail? And how would it be implemented
/r/seduction25/07/22 02:49 AM
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I agree with this. From a woman's POV I wanna know the basics. Not looking to just phone around for weeks, but to literally know if going out is going to be possibly rewarding or a waste of time. I mean, there have been so many times when I get to the date and am like. Oh. Fuck. deal breakers out the wazoo that could have been avoided by basic chit chat prior I immediately unmatch men who insist on an instant date and or does the "you busy tonight" Like bitch, I might be??? Talk for a bit and pl…
/r/seduction25/07/22 02:46 AM
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Why do you think they think they're better than they think? I mean, obviously, if they reject you, you move on. This goes for anyone. Man, woman. Straight ir gay etc etc. Nothing in common means they were bored or didn't find the date stimulating. Or. Guess what? They don't think yall have anything in common. It doesn't ALWAYS mean they are serial daters. What were the conversations like? Did yall talk about anything important or fun? There's nothing wrong with not getting along with people. It …
/r/seduction25/07/22 02:41 AM
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If it was you getting lied to and manipulated, would you be able to trust others again? It's unfair for you to be an AH and then expect everyone around you to be nice to you. Basically if you go around town punching people, one day someone gonna beat you tf up. In dating, you're gonna be an asshole to the wrong person/people. And don't expect anything from anyone you purposefully lied to to ever genuinely actually be attracted to you or like you for you. If you wear a mask and it falls the only …
/r/seduction25/07/22 02:33 AM
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It's still not it bro. She wasn't into it. A person telling you they need to be drunk to be with you is not a yes... its a not until my frontal lobe is intoxicated and my judgement making skills are lowered
/r/seduction25/07/22 02:30 AM
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You're the one who knew she was drinking while you were sober and then knew you could use that to your advantage while pressuring a drunk girl while yall two are all alone. Yikes
/r/seduction25/07/22 02:27 AM
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Instead of listening and just letting it go, you had a drunk girl do stuff she was probably too nervous to outright say no to you. Pressure scares women to the core. If you even put an ounce of pressure onto her then obviously she just did what you asked to get over with it and get THE FUCK out of the situation and far away from you. "Just do what he wants and this will be over sooner" is probably what she was thinking. Drunk and embarrassed and ashamed is how she was feeling and so she's obviou…
/r/seduction25/07/22 02:26 AM
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Any time I know that as a human we want sex, love, romance and to be desired by the opposite sex. But disrespecting people is not it. And unfortunately you learn how to do that crap from men who genuinely don't care about you but just are preying on your very human desires to be wanted and liked and desired. It's not fair for men to think PUA will make them actually likeable people. It's a sick industry run by sick men. And unfortunately has a lot of traction in our world since it promises so ma…
/r/seduction23/07/22 07:40 PM
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The PUA crap is like horoscopes for men. It's not true. But sounds like it could be with the promise of love and sex for only $9.99
/r/seduction23/07/22 07:37 PM
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Yeah, but with an intention. You're asking about a book about a man lying about being a desired man. The ONLY reason people like that get women is because he pays them to pretend to like him then shows those actresses off etc or has them say fake testimonials And yall men come in droves to buy these self help books with reviews most of which are bought.
/r/seduction23/07/22 07:36 PM
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Ok? But going to a strip club and spending money isn't you Bending backwards. Just like if I go to a restaurant and pay money, I'm not going out of my way to give them money for a service. By putting yourself in a position where money is required, but you're unwilling to spend, comes off as entitled. Those strippers aren't trying to step all over and hurt you. They arent seeking you out irl and dragging you into the club. You're going there WILLINGLY. Maybe get better at choosing people. If no o…
/r/seduction23/07/22 07:34 PM
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Nobody asked you to be too nice. Plus someone else hurting you, does NOT give you the right to disrespect OTHER people. Idc cuz men have hurt me in the past and I don't take that shit out and am RUDE or disrespectful to OTHER men cuz a few were shitty people Like what kind of logic is that. I was nice to a woman and got hurt so the obvious solution is to be mean to women who have never hurt me
/r/seduction23/07/22 07:31 PM
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What?
/r/seduction23/07/22 07:29 PM
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How is getting paid 20 bucks for a service you preform stepping on YOU? How do you avoid being played? Don't go to the club cuz they're after your money and money alone fffs.
/r/seduction23/07/22 07:28 PM
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Yeah. Only being nice when someone is nice to you isn't nice. Plus again, having to try and short change and or disrespect a person to get female contact is not what nice people do.
/r/seduction23/07/22 07:23 PM
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But you're not nice. You're genuinely not a good person. Having to stoop so low to disrespecting strippers for female contact is low and needy and not what good people do.
/r/seduction23/07/22 07:20 PM
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Then you don't deserve free shit.
/r/seduction23/07/22 07:11 PM
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Just do and be better. All yall type of dudes are men who pretend to be nice when irl yall are shitty people. And not because you can't be a better person, but it's because you'd rather pretend to be a good person for sex and a girlfriend (maybe) And if the things they lie to you about in those books dont get you laid and surrounded by women you get upset and think you deserve pussy cuz you paid rich men more money to tell you stupid shit. You'll just get angry and resentful, but nor at the gobs…
/r/seduction23/07/22 07:09 PM
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Don't go to service industries with the intent to sneakily try to get free shit for free cuz you're just a self improving charismatic "man" You're not owed anything. Ever. For any reason. Get that through your head. You don't deserve anything from anyone for simply existing. You get owed a dance if you pay for it. You get shit if you work for it in an honest way or pay for it. Period. You want freebies and the easy things in life rather than genuinely being a nice guy you read books on how to fa…
/r/seduction23/07/22 07:04 PM
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Yeah. Mr. Human scum bag trying to get female skin contact for free because he A)can't afford it or B)doesn't have the skill to get irl
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:58 PM
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Then you're all set. Stay away from strip clubs. If you don't need or don't want the product or service then your only reason for going in is for the purpose to get FREE shit for the satisfaction of getting it for free. That's disgusting.
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:57 PM
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Ok. Whatever. Have fun trying to deal with a subset of women (strippers) who can't stand people like you (entitled cheapskates) If you want female contact. Pay for it. Like a normal custy.
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:49 PM
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80% of those books are false promises and false hopes They sell to insecure men promising you bitches if you just follow their rules they make you buy to learn. Oh, girl trouble gimme nine ninety nine and you'll get all the pussy you can dream of. Helping yourself ✔️ Helping yourself to get pussy or women 👎
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:42 PM
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Yeah, but you care enough to respond to everyone her lmao. You clearly care. We don't like custies like you and you're just basic average scummy man who somehow convinced himself after reading a few shitty self help books he deserves women and their attention And also getting free things because he has all the tricks and is sooooooooooo charming and suave. Idk how you think you're good enough of a person to assume you're going to get strippers to go on a date with a man who can't even pay for a …
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:38 PM
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And are you the guy in the book? Lmao no. He has his own issues and fucked up crap to deal with. Also, is there any validity to what he said or do you just believe all these dudes you read about? Oh, those hot women in that video liking him are totally not paid actors lmao.
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:34 PM
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Of course! For story sakes! We can now all learn the secret! No one has to pay for anything anymore anywhere. We all get free services because we are a "charming" entitled karen!
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:32 PM
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Ok? That's not a strippers problem? Unless she's giving you the heat stroke But asking us to potentially lose income or our job so your willy gets minimum contact with a woman is weird. You want a dance? Pay for it. You're not entitled to other people's things because you occasionally give your things out for free. Idgaf if you donated 1 million dollars. I'm not doing my job for free just cuz you're a man asking
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:31 PM
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Go to a restaurant. Like Chipotle and see if they'll give you a free meal since you're really just a stand up guy and let us all know how asking for free shit at service I dusty jobs go
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:28 PM
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You giving out free inanimate objects out or getting free OBJECTS is not the same as a service done by a human being with her body.
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:25 PM
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When im working. Money is my goal. It's not my life goal, but sure is when im on the clock. Jesus
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:24 PM
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Begging people for free services and trying to manipulate free dances makes you seem sex crazed and an asshole Thinking so deep, long, and doing so much extra work to literally get a dum fucking free dance is the definition of lower behavior. You're so desperate for female contact you'd rather beg or manipulate a woman rather than pay her 20 dollars (which is not that much) You'd rather read books upon books to GET A SINGLE FREE DANCE than genuinely just toss out a 20 dollar bill for a service. …
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:22 PM
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Giving out a shot to drunk college kids is different than giving out a free dance to a creepy guy I've never met before. The difference is those people you gave free shit to didn't manipulate you or try to figure out how to get your services for free. You did what you did fully willing and of your own accord. That has nothing to do with strippers. A shot. A free shirt. Or whatever is different than us and out physical bodies. Just because you give shit for free doesn't mean you have the right to…
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:16 PM
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Look. Dancers are at work. A car mechanic is at work. A waitress is at work. Stripping is an industry where men are spending loads of money on us. We end up having a great time with many of the custies but overall I'd never ever ever step foot outside a club with one of them on a serious date. ESPECIALLY if they didn't show me enough money. I have fantastic and interesting people constantly talking to me. You're coming in as a typical cheapskate dude with no thought about us other than getting l…
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:11 PM
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How have they wasted your time? If you're not willing to spend money on the services they provide but go to the place that that service is provided, you're the issue and time waster. Doy hoy. I'm going to go to a strip club, spend no money, to impress the workers there who only care about the money when they're working.
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:04 PM
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In a lot of places dancers are independent contractors. So knowing the own won't do Jack shit of impressing us or getting you free things from us. Yall come in and we use you for money. Period. I don't care about customers beyond mo.ey and the fact they're another human being. If you come in to my place of work thinking I'll give you work for free you're at the wrong place. I have amazing and wonderful conversations with about 10 to 50 dudes in a night. I'm going to be the least impressed by the…
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:00 PM
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Ok. Then. If there's a subtle way to pull away and act too busy for a woman, go for it. People here and (honestly anywhere) freak out after not hearing from someone for a day or two even though they've only known each other for a short bit. There's not enough context on this woman to know how'd she react to even a minor pullback. But a pullback or pull away is obvious in well established relationships because a normalcy/routine has been already established and practiced for a LONG time already. …
/r/seduction23/07/22 04:47 PM
1

Basically if she thinks her friendship is failing, why would she want romance?
/r/seduction23/07/22 04:15 PM
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Getting her curious is fine. But purposefully pulling away this deep into an already established relationship will make her question the entirety of the relationship and not just the sex part or attraction part. What she's going to question when he pulls away isn't "Hmm. I wonder where he's gone? Maybe I should start seeing him as a potential romantic partner" She's going to think "What the fuck? What's wrong with him? Is he okay? Am I doing something wrong? Does he dislike me? Is he mad at me?"…
/r/seduction23/07/22 04:14 PM
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What? So get married to people you don't love, so you can eventually love them? That's whack af. Marriage is (supposed) to be two people who actually love each other solidifying it to the public and government and or for each other.
/r/seduction23/07/22 04:08 PM
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Self identifying nice guys are usually not actually nice. Talking to women about spirituality and not actually caring about it just to get laid is called being fake. Talk to people about things you genuinely have in common. Saying things like "I can't be racist" is weird af and kinda makes it seem like you're compensating It's the idea of humble people never have to say they are humble. And if someone announces, unprovoked, that they are humble, they are probably just the opposite. If you have t…
/r/seduction23/07/22 04:05 PM
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But since they are BEST friends, this type of pulling away behavior will make her think something is wrong. She'll get anxiety and start questioning the FRIENDSHIP. She'll assume he may not want to even be friends with her if he pulls away and doing this is going to trigger fear and anxiety Rather than "hey, I'm a stable and mature guy who is reliable" It shows "I'm going to make you think there's something wrong with our relationship so you double guess everything and get anxiety and show that …
/r/seduction23/07/22 03:57 PM
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As a woman, if im not at a place meant for hooking up or getting picked up 99% of the time idc about a person tedious same old same old approach. Pretending to be buying something. Pretending to have something in common. Making excuses to talk to me. None of its inherently bad. But it's usually obvious and mostly just shows me that this person has either been doing this to any woman he sees or makes a habit of picking woman up (basically a male version of a ho and doesn't make me feel good about…
/r/seduction23/07/22 03:34 PM
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Don't play games with people who went out of their way to pick on an insecurities. Drop mean people.
/r/seduction23/07/22 03:22 PM
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Then I guess it looks like men and women have the same problems yet keep blaming each other for it rather than saying it's just bad PEOPLE. Women have it incredibly hard in so many aspects you can only IMAGINE and vice versa for men. But I keep seeing on this site about men complaining about how women have it so easy. Some of these dudes basically act like if they get played by a woman then women are bad If a woman gets played by a man it's because she's shit at choosing men and chose an asshole…
/r/seduction22/07/22 05:10 PM
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I know why he's hurt. I already said he deserves an apology. Fffssss. Its annoying people read over that part of what I was saying But it was THE COWORKER who asked her out for HIM. And God forbid she freaks out and like a lot of people avoids what gives her anxiety. Not that that's an excuse cuz we ALL get anxiety. But he came into this post like she was a fucked up ho bitch. When in reality her 2 coworkers pressured tf out of a scared girl. She didn't deserve that nor did he derve to be stood …
/r/seduction22/07/22 05:19 AM
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And I guarantee you, that I'd this was a woman complaining about a man, it'd be all about how she's just into assholes and she's a slut who loves bad men But God forbid a man gets rejected, it's always the woman's 100% fault and nothing the men in the scenario did was wrong. When men get hurt by women: so sad Men hurt women: pick a better man, you whore. You keep going out with assholes. Why don't men ever get blamed for being equally shitty in a scenario? She was shit He was shit Is that not po…
/r/seduction22/07/22 04:48 AM
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Women get played all the time too. Especially with what I see on this forum. The top post rn is about tricking a woman and crap like that. A lot of men think women have it easy since women get bombarded with horny men who couldn't give a shit about us as a person. The detriment to being desired and lusted after is getting stalked. Raped. Hurt. Do you know how many men pretend to be nice and or interested in what we like just to sleep with us. God forbid the majority of men on this site are here …
/r/seduction22/07/22 04:40 AM
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Men immediately start being like she's a bitch. A ho. She's a terrible human being. whatever the fuck it is. Without realizing it wasn't even the op who asked her out but her coworkers for him who were goading her in front of him and instead of realizing maybe women deal with asinine men who threaten us when we say no Her safest option was to ignore it all and go home at the end of the day since the date wasn't even ops idea
/r/seduction22/07/22 04:37 AM
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I'm not trying to justify shit. But he completely went into the post 100% blaming her then eventually started saying THAT ANOTHER FUCKING MAN ASKED HER OUT FOR HIM. and some how he doesn't get how maybe that's not how a woman is comfortable being asked out
/r/seduction22/07/22 04:35 AM
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I literally said she should apologize but she's not 100% responsible cuz her coworkers butted in. Like damn. Read. It's like if yall read. The maybe yall would know im not trying to excuse her but bringing perspective cuz bitches (men) be getting bitchy af whine and crying over women they know for 3 seconds ffffs. Maybe if they could take a minute to realize it's not about them. She didn't stand him up cuz of him but for some other crap that has 0 to do with him then MAYBE more men could move tf…
/r/seduction22/07/22 04:32 AM
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I'm, in all honesty, a fairly attractive enough women, and dating sites don't work out for me because of my personality. I'm to the point and cut throat and that throws people off over text. It's much easier in person. But its all about goals. Don't cold approach to get numbers or a date or etc. Start off by just getting to know the people around you. For just fun. I go clubbing with my friend and we love together so she and I go out for just each other to have fun and never go home with a guy. …
/r/seduction21/07/22 04:42 PM
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Ok. Yeah, then express to her you're not mad she didn't go out with you but that you're upset with her that she didn't message you about it, or could have told you she was interested etc etc. Etc. Everyone seems to just jump to conclusions based on how THEY feel and then never really calm down and actually talk to the person who heard from them to let them honestly explain to you what was going on in their mind at the time. If you confront her and ask her like hey I really wanted to see you and …
/r/seduction21/07/22 04:34 PM
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Then yeah. Don't go to those places. But again, don't overtly flirt in places that aren't places meant for picking up people. When I, as a woman, am out an about 99% of my thoughts are about what I'm currently doing and rarely about flirting and getting numbers etc. I'm just vibing and living my life. The minute someone interrupts my current thought pattern with something incredibly left field I get a little confused then guarded. Not because I wouldn't be interested, but because I'm like, wait.…
/r/seduction21/07/22 04:19 PM
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Someone else asked her out on your behalf, and she panicked and was confused and you're mad at her? I would say you need to take a step back and reevaluate some things. She didn't do anything wrong. Fight or flight is an intense emotion that can be triggered easily in people. And especially in a situation like that where she felt pressured. You should have, nicely, told the coworke to mind his business, and told the obviously flustered and confused batista that she doesn't have to listen to her …
/r/seduction21/07/22 04:07 PM
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Yeah. Again. Anxiety turns off executive functioning. It's a biological response. She may have just been like flooded with that. You can't realistically hold other people's primal emotional responses over their head when it's not even their fault in the first place. A scenario was created entirely outside of her control and she clearly panicked. It's not even one she created. Someone else pushed her out of her comfort zone and you're upset at her. She had probably some really bad anxiety and you…
/r/seduction21/07/22 04:02 PM
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If it's a type of mingling with everyone type of deal your goal should be mingling. These women atm aren't really there to flirt or be flirted on but to chat and have a good time with everyone. Unless this was a singles retreat they're there to just be there and have fun If you're at a place like a bar, a club or places meant for picking up then starting off with you're cute etc is 100% fine. But when women are in a place not really meant for being picked up, it'll come across as not it bro. Nex…
/r/seduction21/07/22 03:52 PM
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I'm sorry. I do think her coworkers were the problem. She may have genuinely liked you. And may have been flirting, but the date was definitely pressured for her. I think her coworkers knew she liked you or was curious about you. And so the fact your coworker suggested the date is so invasive. She probably wanted to take it slow and just see you again at work and talk to you as a customer for longer. Since she has the power and control behind the counter, it's a way she can flirt and get to know…
/r/seduction21/07/22 03:36 PM
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Why are people telling you that you're being rude? If it's reoccurring, then you're doing something that's rude. You don't have to be a push over, but that doesn't mean you have to never comply or bend to her wishes. All relationships, even casual, are about give and take. If you just want her to 100% comply to you, but you think it's simpy or bad to never comply to her then that's a wrong mindset to have. You need to set up boundaries. What you're ok with doing and or not doing. You're going to…
/r/seduction21/07/22 03:27 PM
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Plus texting, if yall live in the same area, is for setting up dates and or check ins if yall haven't seen each other for a bit.
/r/seduction21/07/22 03:21 PM
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Oof. In this day and age with the toxic nude culture? I'd only EVER send nudes to someone I actually trusted. Nudes, sex, etc are all valuable things to women. If you are a man with money and could easily afford to lend $1,000 to a friend in need here or there, wouldn't you be a bit miffed if a woman you literally just started talking to asked to borrow 1k cuz maybe you lent it to a mutual friend (that you already trust and care about) Sex stuff can be very similar for women. Yeah, maybe if you …
/r/seduction21/07/22 03:20 PM
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As a woman... when overly flirty and positive (while that's just you, I'm not saying it's bad just trying to maybe shed light on a different perspective) When a dude is upbeat and keeps one lining and flirting it comes off as fake or player like. I dated a guy who was completely flirty Mc flirtyson As you said she asked a serious question and you responded with a joke. Which can get grating "Do you like olives?" (She genuinely wants to know) you respond with a joke that doesn't answer her questi…
/r/seduction21/07/22 03:06 PM
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It's hard with service industry women since it's the job to be nice and talk to you about whatever you wanna talk about and smile and be extremely overly friendly and borderline flirty. Tell her, hey, I think you're really interesting. I don't want to bother you since I bet you get that a lot but here's here's my number. I would love to hear from you but totally understand of you'd rather not (say the context of this, not necessarily this cuz its wordy) Things women hate: pressure Allow her to n…
/r/seduction21/07/22 02:56 PM
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4 years? Do you genuinely love this person? It seems you're just looking for a way out to get laid. If the problem is lack of sex Talk to her about it And don't act entitled. "Having intimate moments with you, like sex, is how I feel loved. Is there anything we can do to make your libido higher/get you hornier (etc)?" I had an ex who would make it seem like it was my fault even though I was going through a lot of problems. And he put so much pressure on the idea of sex it made me extremely anxio…
/r/seduction21/07/22 02:49 PM
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How did the initial asking for a number go? Sometimes we feel pressured as women by customers to just smile and day yes because it's sort of our job to be overly nice to everyone. We could get in trouble if we upset yall. In my experience a lot of men have mistaken my overly niceness as flirting when it wasn't. Then asking me out and I get all hot and sweaty and my anxiety kicks in and I forget how to function and sometimes just agree Cuz omg please leave me alone, I'm only trying to do my job, …
/r/seduction21/07/22 02:34 PM
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This, there are a million sexy ways to ask for consent rather than just going in for it. So many guys surprise you with it and it's a sure fire way to not get anywhere else.
/r/seduction21/07/22 02:19 PM
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It's infatuation that's all. It's borderline obsession. There's nothing to it but the fact you're attracted to her and have fantasized a fake future with her. As you said. Her dms are flooded and surrounded by suitors yet you expect her to notice your DM? that's probably sitting there on requests (99+) She probably gets a new DM a day
/r/seduction21/07/22 01:59 AM
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This video is staged and entirely for likes. It's a complete gimmick to get people to view it so they make money.
/r/seduction21/07/22 01:54 AM
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Then take a break. And focus on setting goals that don't make you think negatively and start getting ok with failure. Failure and pain are simply a part of life. It will happen. We don't have to like or enjoy it, but embrace the failures as your teacher and not your enemy
/r/seduction20/07/22 09:30 PM
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Ohhh ok! I see what you're getting at. My apologies. I think changing your mindset/goal will help. If your goal is to get numbers vs just having fun and getting to know people, the 2nd will have the best results
/r/seduction20/07/22 09:11 PM
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To put it into perspective. If you're worrying about yourself in a situation where something tragic happened and that's unfair on her.
/r/seduction20/07/22 07:19 PM
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She lost someone and you're worried about a text. Chill. Relax. Let her breathe. You've known her for a week and she's literally grieving. Let her know that you're there if she needs anything and then don't message her unless she talks to you
/r/seduction20/07/22 07:17 PM
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As a woman, you're very handsome, but imo the fake candid photos are a bit annoying. Look at the camera. We know you're posing for a picture. That's ok. It's a dating app you're supposed to have a photo. Have one or two photos of you with a friend or something. Your main picture should be a straightforward and clear shot of just you. The holding dog photo one is nice. Only one photo should be a "candid" photo.
/r/seduction20/07/22 07:13 PM
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Ok. Well, if it starts fucming up things, get help. For example if your bf would break up with you over this stuff or get angry, then that's something to consider
/r/seduction20/07/22 06:40 PM
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If you're considering self hypnosis just to talk to women... you need to reevaluate some things. If your goal is to get rid of social anxiety in all situations then totally figure it out. But working on your mental health only for women is going to make it worse. Build yourself up because you deserve it. Make yourself better cuz you deserve it and not for other people.
/r/seduction20/07/22 06:38 PM
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Idk, maybe take a break. You can't really hate what you're trying to achieve. It's really not a good idea to dislike the idea of a person before you even approach them. It's setting yourself up for failure and unfair judgment on your end. Imagine if I hated psychology but I decided I wanted to be a therapist. Literally would make 0 sense. Chill for a bit and recuperate
/r/seduction20/07/22 06:35 PM
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If it's getting in the way of your life and daily activities then it's considered a disorder or mental illness. Meaning if it's making it hard to function inside of your life, seek help
/r/seduction20/07/22 06:29 PM
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Honestly any guy with a hobby that requires work is way more attractive than those who don't. It shows A) he's passionate about something B) He cares more about having fun and enjoying than being just a dude working 24/7 to get money just to get women C) Shows he has some sort of personality outside of money and bitches If I see a man work hard on something that doesn't get money or women im more impressed because it legit shows he actually genuinely is just a person living life for himself rath…
/r/seduction20/07/22 06:27 PM
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It's how you act. If you act like you are there just to have a chat and don't care about sex then she'll trust you more. We feel that if a man wants something specific he'll keep directing the conversation rather than let it flow and it's annoying and obvious
/r/seduction20/07/22 06:22 PM
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You could still have mania? Like what? You don't have to actually do anything stupid to be manic. But a lot of mania is increased sex drive particularly taboo esque or "dangerous" You're doing something you know is wrong. Or at least you think it is and that's a key factor in what makes mania mania.
/r/seduction20/07/22 06:18 PM
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I think she's trying a bit too hard to build sexual tension up. It's important and can be really fun for us women. Because men always harang us or want sex in two seconds of meeting us then stop talking once they get what they want and we know the type. So it can be fun building the tension and making the dude who's super eager to wait and chill before we have sex with him and then the sex is so much better since everyone had to wait. By making her get blue balls you'd honestly just be playing i…
/r/seduction20/07/22 06:16 PM
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Idk. I guess just stop worrying about how other people perceive you and just live your life and get it on camera. Like idk. Ig is so dull cuz we all know 90% of its fake just to impress people we don't actually give a fuck about Keep doing what you're doing and those type of people will hit you up.
/r/seduction20/07/22 06:09 PM
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They're probably not jelous... just interested that you're living what looks like an interesting life. Like why tf would you think a woman is jelous that you go to the gym and dinner? Lmao. They're probably like. Oh that's interesting... The ego to think that you posting basic ig stories is making people jelous. What's working is it looks like you're living YOUR life. Jelousy has nothing to do with what's happening. Plus trying to make people jelous of your life is so shallow
/r/seduction20/07/22 06:05 PM
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Ehh if you like her more than she likes you cut it off. If you're not getting what you want out of a relationship it's ok to end it. And possible to do amicably too Best of luck
/r/seduction20/07/22 05:07 AM
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So, you're telling me you take absolutely 0 precautions in saftey? You walking away from someone who you don't know because you value your saftey isn't an insult to them. I've had people scared of me when I'm walking because I walk really fast and quietly. I'm not mad at them if I accidentally jump scare someone I'm passing. Nobody gives a shit who you are if you're a stranger. No one is going to play roulette on the chance you're not a creepy guy. If im buy myself and I even remotely feel like …
/r/seduction20/07/22 05:06 AM
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Ok. Then either recycle or change preferences 🤷🏼‍♀️ At this point this is no one's issue but yours.
/r/seduction20/07/22 02:39 AM
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If you're doing something that requires focus or attention to detail and someone you don't know starts making small talk about the weather or something, wouldn't you also be a bit miffed if it wasn't dire? I'm not rude to people who talk to me, but I also don't enjoy being approached when im in the middle of concentrating. If im walking and not making eye contact with anyone with large af headphones on that are blasting music. Reading or studying, what makes you think I wanna talk to ANYONE Idc …
/r/seduction20/07/22 02:37 AM
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In what universe would Drake talk to me in the park? In what universe are celebrities and "chads" just walking up to me and interrupting my book. I really don't want anyone bothering me when I'm busy or previously or obviously engaged. I don't always mind if a person talks to me. What I do mind is a person pestering me or being overly pushy. You can say girls this girls that. But no one really wants to talk to people when they're actively trying to do an activity that's usually a solitary activi…
/r/seduction20/07/22 02:30 AM
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I'm honestly the same way in a group and I'm a woman who can take a selfies with no problem. If I need a good group or whatever photo I ask someone I trust and who is handy with a phone camera to take various photos in various lighting, settings, angles and etc so you can practice and know how you look best in pictures
/r/seduction20/07/22 01:35 AM
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Of course! It takes time to learn what we are ok with. If you got out of a bad relationship, take time away from dating and love your life and find hobbies or something you enjoy and get back to dating when you're a bit more mature and healed. Been there and haha definitely have done that 🫂❤️
/r/seduction20/07/22 01:32 AM
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Or ask her out. I'm a woman and only use texting to check up on a person once a week if I know them and or set up a date or hangout thing. If yall are past the courting phase she may not wanna talk all the time. She already knows the basics and knows you're interested which to me, is the main reason for texting. After awhile it's like... dude. What is there to talk about every single day that I'm not going to talk to you about when I see you one to two times a week?
/r/seduction20/07/22 01:11 AM
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Rule of thumb for any man or woman, if you're this enveloped in a single person's texting habit... then you need to get a hobby and or talk to more than one person and seriously stop analyzing the minute details of everything. The more pressure and anxiety you put onto the idea of texting the worse you'll be. Distract yourself with other things. My female friend gets like this if a dude doesn't text her back in a day and it's so tiring to hear her complain about it If she's deliberately ignoring…
/r/seduction20/07/22 01:09 AM
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Boundaries and don't just do everything the guy suggests if you're not comfortable. If you know you don't want to put out. Don't be alone in his car, go to a second location or his place. Have set boundaries and don't Daye until you know you can hold onto them and not let horny men push you around
/r/seduction20/07/22 12:30 AM
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Mote context would be needed. Is she uninterested because maybe those are the days she's working, going out, errands? Or is it your perception and you're jumping to conclusions Or maybe she's a shitty texted but when she's acting I terested she's really trying hard to keep up with you and that may be a huge deal on her end. God. People assume so much in the dating world
/r/seduction20/07/22 12:28 AM
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Oh, I read it across first wrongly. But naw. Dude it's your life. Who cares if it's simp like. If you wanna go have fun with someone you liked banging and hanging with who cares what anyone thinks.
/r/seduction20/07/22 12:26 AM
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Omg yes! If im busy and someone talks to me imma be very short and say, "excuse me, I need to x" I've been interrupted reading my book a few times And when I ask basically in a nice way to be left alone Some of them have said, "oh. Well I thought since you're not busy I could talk to you" Like dude. I AM busy. Reading. Some dudes just assume since I'm outside I'm signaling to them "try to pick me up" I get them flirting and trying to talk. I don't mind UNTIL they pester about it and don't take a…
/r/seduction20/07/22 12:21 AM
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Sounds a bit people pleasery. Do you care more about the hurt feelings you assume she has or your own comfort levels. If you feel like you have to talk to her or say yes to her because you don't want to hurt people's feelings that's something that'll hurt you in the long run And isn't fair to her either. If you keep acting like you're into her too just to not hurt her then she'll think you're into her even if you're not
/r/seduction20/07/22 12:16 AM
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She's 21 and you're 28. When yall are in your thirties, this age gap won't matter much. But she's young. 21? Just legally old enough to drink and really hit the fun party scene. She may really not be interested in a relationship and especially if she's in college. You're 28 and that means almost 30. You may be way more ready to settle than a college age girl is. If she's on her stories out having fun, it's cuz thats what she wants to do. Maybe she went on a few outings with you but doesn't want …
/r/seduction20/07/22 12:10 AM
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How small is the city? And or how high must your standard be if you don't like the remainder of women there? Like have you dated thousands of women? Or hundreds? Is it a small town or like?
/r/seduction20/07/22 12:06 AM
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Thanks! I'm glad it helped!😄
/r/seduction19/07/22 09:51 PM
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Her behavior changed after you made out? Did you try to initiate sex?
/r/seduction19/07/22 06:53 PM
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You're gonna get a 10/10 for you with this. The way you work will get the people who like you for that. Men who do the games are wearing a persona that isn't them and will only attract women who don't like the real them. Even if you don't land a stereotypical 10/10 you'll land a woman who is a 10/10 to you because she matches your energy and genuinely cares about you versus the fake persona a lot of those PUA ish guys put up. I look at people in shades of colors. And most of us have our favorite…
/r/seduction19/07/22 06:48 PM
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Old classmates? Talk about the past. People in common? Bring them up. Funny events in school? Memories? People love nostalgia and if they're from your past, make them nostalgic
/r/seduction19/07/22 06:43 PM
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Oof. Everyone. Everyone is going to have flaws that you don't find 100% attractive 24/7. Even your friends probably having some qualities you put up with because overall they are good and it's worth it to put up with those flaws. Refuses sex so you leave? Dude. There are countless reasons a woman may not want or even CANT have sex. I get it, if it's like ALL THE TIME. But bruh, what if she's emotionally going through something like a death in the family or is just sad and you make it even worse …
/r/seduction19/07/22 06:40 PM
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Yes! And letting her decide also makes her feel like she has choices and that, in essence, if she makes a suggestion or wants something, she will be listened to. Especially in the bed. Most of us experience just men doing what they want to us that may or may not be that great, but if we feel like we can be vocal and have a say, the sex part will be a lot more fun for everyone.
/r/seduction19/07/22 06:27 PM
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We live life constantly aware of all the bad things that COULD happen. If you say you've never taken precautions in your life ever, then I can't believe you. Never got nervous in a bad neighborhood? Or are you just classist or elitist if you lock your car doors? Ever saw an unsavory character, even in broad daylight and avoided them? Oh, what, again, are you being too harsh towards people who may be homeless or on drugs or whatever else it could be? Are you just assuming the worst? Oh, a man in …
/r/seduction19/07/22 06:18 PM
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If you knew there was a chance something could end your life in a brutal way, would you take no precautions? Like seatbelts in a car? Yeah. I've never been in a bad accident, but seatbelts have saved lives. Locking my door at home? I've never been robbed, but I know it can happen so I lock my doors. My car has never been broken into, but I still lock my doors. Of I have shopping bags in my car i hide them under the seats as to not attract thieves. I know that when I get in my car, an eighteen wh…
/r/seduction19/07/22 06:12 PM
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Ok fine. Any time of the day and a bigger dog with no owner and he's approaching you. It really doesn't matter. But if something has the possibility of physical harm that could make us end up in an ER, we as humans, don't take the risk. It's nothing against you. It's just men are strong and can do lasting harm IF they are the bad ones. It only takes one time for a person to murder me. And it does happen to women. I don't want to be the statistics of a woman who trusted the wrong man. I've been a…
/r/seduction19/07/22 06:09 PM
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Most everything boils down to if a woman feels safe and secure.
/r/seduction19/07/22 06:03 PM
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Exactly! It puts us women at ease! Cuz we know what you want. Like, most of the time it's obvious. But heck, it's so much more fun to have fun before hand and builds trust and rapport which makes sex better (being able to talk about likes and dislikes and opening yourself up to new or different things takes trust) If you lead a woman directly to the sex stuff it's like, "we are here only for sex. This is the only option" If you kinda make her feel thats not her only purpose you give her the abil…
/r/seduction19/07/22 05:53 PM
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Yeah, ok? And dogs are 99% of the time good, but if you saw one you didn't know at night and it was big and looked vicious, would you let it approach you (not acting like a happy dog)? No, you wouldn't take your chances. Strange dog with the potential to attack? You leave and get away. Even if the dog was approaching innocently, why would you sit there and take the chances to end up in the er with holes in your hand and having to get shots
/r/seduction19/07/22 05:46 PM
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No... people may not just go and attack you. Sometimes they try to talk to you to assess if you're a target. I've been followed by a dude in a car while I was jogging I had to run up to a man and his girlfriend to lose the creep. There's a possibility of Ted bundys and or just run of the mill r*pists to act all nice to get your guard down so they can attack. Women end up hurt or dead too often for us to want to let our guard down for the possibility a man is harmless
/r/seduction19/07/22 02:16 AM
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Ok. Then don't do it. I'm just saying what worked for my friend and I. Don't talk about important relationship changing issues. Just act in ways that confuse people then throw your hands up and shrug rather than talk things through
/r/seduction18/07/22 07:30 PM
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You have every right to be angry and upset and mad, and I totally understand it, but creating more pain won't lessen yours. I've done some bad things in fits of rage. And it did nothing. Just made me even more alone and lost.
/r/seduction18/07/22 07:24 PM
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I'm sorry that you are in so much pain. But there are so many people out there who are good people who, yeah, may get laid, but are otherwise good people who don't deserve it. Then there are their mothers and fathers and siblings. I'm not saying you should sing kumb ay yah with them. But I understand the pure anger at those people who have what you want and they just don't understand your pain. They just don't get it? But they have their own pains and issues. And they wouldn't feel the pain... y…
/r/seduction18/07/22 07:22 PM
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Look, I'm sorry for busting your balls kid, but the world doesn't revolve around you and your issues. Every pain and sadness you feel has been felt by millions of others. And instead of searching for people who could genuinely care and understand, you lash out and dig yourself even further into the isolation and anger pit. If you focus on yourself and your anger and dealing with your pain in healthy ways, you will become happier and you will find amazing people in the world who can relate
/r/seduction18/07/22 07:14 PM
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I don't get sex everyday. That's you assuming shit out of anger. You're just angry and want others to feel your pain. But your directing that anger to people who don't deserve it. Nobody does. You don't deserve your pain either bro, but just cuz you're suffering doesn't mean others should have to too. That's why our world is so fucked up with violence and crap. Is because people take their anger out on people who didn't do jack shit except exist. You're not the only one in the world with immense…
/r/seduction18/07/22 07:10 PM
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If you're open to the person, then I they're a good person they'll try to accommodate anything. I have a friend I see who has aspergers and at first I couldn't stand him then he opened up to me about it and I do my best to help him navigate things, while also making sure he doesn't overwhelm me. Everyone deserves a chance. But sometimes being open about certain aspects of your character may dispell negative assumptions
/r/seduction18/07/22 06:57 PM
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I honestly wish I was aborted! Or swallowed! But we can't all get what we want, now can we? Im going to wallow in self pity, because no one is going through worse things than I am right now. Wars and trauma and death, but no, I can't get laid. I have it worse. Uwu
/r/seduction18/07/22 06:53 PM
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Oh! My! Gosh! You know what? I am stupid! Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Thank you kind bitter sir!
/r/seduction18/07/22 06:38 PM
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Ahhh! I'm jumping out of a window as we speak! Falling backwards now with shards of glass falling all around as I type this thud
/r/seduction18/07/22 06:32 PM
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Repeat after me: I think im a great guy who deserves whatever he wants from other people, but im actually really a terrible person who's going around harassing people and telling them im going to kill them. I think im a nice guy, but really, I send death threats to people.
/r/seduction18/07/22 06:27 PM
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Oooh oh no. The ground? Scary. Bury me alive! Ahhh!
/r/seduction18/07/22 06:26 PM
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Duh. I'm so annoying. I was an orphan. So I popped out and they died right then and there cuz I was just so awful! Whoo!!! Orphans unite! Unwanted babies and or dead parents leagues! Thanks so much for, instead of properly dealing with your emotions, trying to make people feel bad. You deserve so many good things because you're obviously such a good person. Death threats? Who wouldn't wanna bone a dude who let's out his anger with threatening people online?
/r/seduction18/07/22 06:25 PM
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You know threatening people online with death is pretty serious. You should get a handle on that anger because for all this time you've been angry spewing threats you could be going for a run. Learning a hobby. Gaming. Being productive. Doing something you enjoy. But nope. Death threats
/r/seduction18/07/22 06:17 PM
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I'm a woman. But ok. I'm a cunty cunt cunt. Cunt Mcgee the III to be precise
/r/seduction18/07/22 06:15 PM
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And why is your goal to have a woman in your life? What's so great about the way you're living that would want to make a woman stay? Because this? This right here? I pray no woman falls for any fake charms because this bitter and jaded and twisted fucker is who you are underneath it. You are cloaked in anger and bitterness and hatred and it's consumed you. You can't go attract what you literally are so pissed off at. You can't attract what you hate.
/r/seduction18/07/22 06:14 PM
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"As a human I'd like a companion" so.... a relationship? What makes you think with how you actually view women you deserve a partner? Jesus. You whine and complain and bitch and moan about women and this is how you honestly feel. So, this definitely seeps out in doses in real life. This type of venom can't be hidden. You're your own demise. A Greek tragedy. You seek to avoid what you fear to the point you go too far and actually cause what you fear to come true. You're so aggressive for no reaso…
/r/seduction18/07/22 06:11 PM
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Yeah... but asking to go to your place screams "let's have sex" it's the Netflix and chill. A woman is going to go there and assume sex will happen. And if you bring it up early on she's gonna assume that's all you want. Plus.... It just seems like maybe old fuckboy habits die hard. Idk. Imagine you like a girl and she wants you to come along shopping with her but she disguises the words but you still know what it is. You think. Hmm. Maybe if I was actually in a relationship with her I'd be happ…
/r/seduction18/07/22 06:03 PM
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Ahhh! Ok. If I may, I don't wanna sound preachy. But for now just focus on finding friends that are male and stuff and then if there's a friend group maybe find a woman in the group or then when you have your friendship settled and you're more established in the city you can focus on women?
/r/seduction18/07/22 05:59 PM
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I found the male with issues.
/r/seduction18/07/22 05:53 PM
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You being human means you just deserve a relationship? That's so bs. I don't just deserve a relationship as a woman either since I'm human. No one on planet earth deserves any relationship they don't foster and care for and actually respect. If you go around seeing every woman as a whore then you don't respect women and thats your issue. If you're a shitty person and you're not nice to people, you don't deserve friends or a girlfriend. Just because you exist doesn't mean jack shit. We all exist …
/r/seduction18/07/22 05:42 PM
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Don't men go for women solely based on looks most of the time? I mean how do you choose who to approach. You can't force attraction. My friend gave a guy a chance because of the sole purpose to give a good guy a chance. She just had 0 feelings and they're still great friends to this day after 5 years and he's dating a different woman who genuinely finds him attractive
/r/seduction18/07/22 05:35 PM
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Too much emotional crap. Once men like you they sometimes put weird expectations over me. Like texting, talking etc. Being a kind of therapist to them. Obviously the right man won't use me as a therapist he sleeps with, but it gets so tiring when these dudes who would swear I'm the over emotional one be super needy, insecure and emotional To me, being in a relationship is like having a dog. It take responsibility and im just not there for it. I tend to be a very more reserved emotionally person …
/r/seduction18/07/22 05:29 PM
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Like imagine if by talking online for ten minutes you already realized you were incompatible. No point for a date. But imagine going out on a date and realizing halfway through its just not going to work. That's what pre chatting is
/r/seduction18/07/22 05:19 PM
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Women have more to lose when going out physically. We don't know you. Who are you? We don't want to waste our times on a dud or maybe even get hurt somehow or molested. Or etc. We want to talk to yall first about the basics. If the girl is a hardcore liberal and the guy a hardcore conservative that's something literally texting a few things back and forth would have saved two people a lot of unnecessary time
/r/seduction18/07/22 05:17 PM
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Or at least exclusive and have agreed upon rules. If two people agree in certain things then not abiding by those agreements is terms for ceasing the relationship
/r/seduction18/07/22 05:15 PM
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Build an ig presence a bit. We don't easily trust as women so we like to know what type of person you are before we engage. It's a vetting process to make sure you don't give off bad vibes Edit: don't have to be crazy with it. Pics with friends, family, hobbies and the basics. Start posting like once a week till you have a good enough basics page about you
/r/seduction18/07/22 05:12 PM
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Stand up. Seriously. If you have a counter or something. Pop a bottle and have her lean on the other side as you both just stand and sip in some drink and chat it up. That chemistry is like social lube and then maybe get close to her to get her empty glass. It's about just having a good time with her and showing her the only thing that's happening is you two talking and that there's 0 pressure. She'll feel so much more at ease and be more apt to wanting to have sex with you than first just immed…
/r/seduction18/07/22 05:09 PM
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This goes for women as well. I think dating around is always optimal for everyone. Getting prematurely attached often happens when we put our eggs in one basket while their eggs are spread thin
/r/seduction18/07/22 05:06 PM
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Busy yourself. Do something that may not involve your phone. Cook something. Game. Go for a nice walk.
/r/seduction18/07/22 04:59 PM
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If that's not you, don't do it. Banter and joke and have fun and make little jokes here and there that seem at her dispense but since you smile she knows it's a joke. If you don't feel comfortable calling people names. 100% ok. I call my friends bitches all the time but understand why other people would rather not. To each their own but make sure it's your own
/r/seduction18/07/22 04:58 PM
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Naw. Be yourself. When you find someone you like who genuinely likes you for who you are it'll be so much more worth it if that's your goal. If you're pretending to be a character and she falls in love with your persona. Both of you will be hurt
/r/seduction18/07/22 04:56 PM
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I agree. Some people shouldn't have social media imo. I think all attention seekers (who use social media) love that attention crap but not all people with those large followers are attention seekers. Some weird people on the internet and I don't think it's wholey fair to judge a mass amount of women for a select few being air heads
/r/seduction18/07/22 04:51 PM
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Leading means you pay attention to her. You go with her flow and stop if there's something off. Follow the river man but don't go over the cliff.
/r/seduction18/07/22 04:48 PM
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Both men and women should Daye multiple people until it's established that yall are exclusive.
/r/seduction18/07/22 04:47 PM
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I'm a woman and I hate snap Chat makes no sense. Don't worry about it
/r/seduction18/07/22 04:46 PM
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To further. The non manipulative techniques are super fun! Excess flirting! Talking about who knows what and just having a good time is harmless and a blast but it all lacks substance at the end of the day. Seducing a woman gets sex. But it's all about sex. Imagine it like this. Pick up art and seduction techniques are meant to puck up women. At a certain point when im already picked up... when they've already "got me" the ones who have no idea how to establish romantic bases just continues with…
/r/seduction18/07/22 04:45 PM
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You probably have fuck boy vibes so them using you for sex doesn't feel wrong for them since they think you're in the same boat. If I have sex with a guy immediately 99% of the time idc about him other than the fact he's a human being. Treat with respect and a saftey home text and that's it. And I usually think they're on the same page. I am not looking for a relationship atm, bit if I were, I'd stay away from men who do seduction techniques that I read about here (obvious to me now) When im loo…
/r/seduction18/07/22 04:41 PM
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They're not basic. They're just not your cup of tea. Move on to people you actually have things in common with. She's probably thinking the same thing about you. It's not harsh or bad yall don't click. Nothing wrong with either of you. Just non meshing personalities
/r/seduction18/07/22 04:38 PM
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I mean idk. Maybe they're at an amusement park and want to ride rides and you're just kinda getting in the way of their fun time. Unless you were going with them and standing in line and letting them all have fun while still chatting, but like bruh, a group of friends are at an incredibly exciting place and you think they're gonna waste time for their friend to chat up a semi stranger so they can lose their place in line?
/r/seduction18/07/22 04:35 PM
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Literally just talk to her when you wanna have a conversation and stop it when it's dying. It can be like once every 3 days or so and she'll initiate too. You don't have to pull back and make us chase you to the point we think we are acting like a stalker
/r/seduction18/07/22 04:33 PM
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Yeah, if im doing all the work I statt to feel crazy and like. Oh. This guy doesn't like me and I'm bothering and annoying him and I feel super insecure and move on
/r/seduction18/07/22 04:32 PM
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Yup. Be the best you and when you're happy, exploring your hobbies and passions you'll usually come across people with shared interests and or people who know a person you could meet etc etc. When you're focused on YOU that's truly when you are most attractive because you're independent and happy bit WILLING to find a partner if it happens
/r/seduction18/07/22 04:28 PM
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Hahaha so a woman who gained followers or something stopped paying attention to you or something? Like, if it wasn't a big deal, as you said. Just fuck them and move on. No one could believe your intentions with any woman are beyond just sex and conquest and control with an attitude like this. You legit think dating is easy because men harass us with this "attention" online and irl? Yall think because we are desired and lusted after that makes it easy. Sure. I can get laid easily, but women get …
/r/seduction18/07/22 04:20 PM
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Yeah. I literally do it for fun but you should see the dms of a person who has a regular amount of followers if they're a woman or girl. Even if they catch a glimmer of the idea that you have a vagina you'll get proposed to. It's not our fault. I could literally show one of my eyebrows and get crazy amount of men listing after the idea I'm a woman
/r/seduction18/07/22 04:05 PM
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Idk. I have 25k followers and I do it for fun. No PR team and I don't even get paid to do it. Nor do I care to... It's kinda wild to assume someone with 10k has a whole production team behind them when it's them and a ring light and depending on the woman, editing. In our modern Era. It's not really a lot to have 10 to 15k. If you can make basic enough content people want to see. It's literally nothing special like people make it out to be. My roommate has nearly 20k followers and it's the same …
/r/seduction18/07/22 04:03 PM
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After a month of no contact and you message me, I'm a hail Mary to your horniness. If there was communication before hand, I'd maybe consider it. But out of the blue? You're lonely and horny.
/r/seduction18/07/22 07:30 AM
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She never wanted sex. She's there to dance and if she came with friends 99% of the time she's leaving with those friends. If she wanted sex, you'd have had sex. If she stops dancing with you then you know she just wanted to have fun and dance. There's nothing wrong with that either.
/r/seduction18/07/22 07:29 AM
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We do, but it's super uncomfortable to tell men for fear of retaliation if we are honest. We grin and pretend to be happy even when we aren't to stop escalation. If a guy asks why I don't want to see him, through awful past experiences, it makes my fight or flight instincts mildly kick in. I'll be as vague as possible so I don't insult and anger the man. Who, for all I know, could overreact in a dangerous way
/r/seduction18/07/22 07:13 AM
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If you act differently around her friends than with her it comes off as you're not being "you" to her. And if she doesn't like the "you" You are with your friends she's not for you. Imagine if a girl you're dating acted completely different around her friends than with you. Like a different person. Would you think she's faking her personality for you? Probably
/r/seduction18/07/22 07:04 AM
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As a woman. Jesus Christ. Thank you. If I know you and we have talked. Invite me over with implications of sex and it might just happen. Lead me on through a maze of bullshit that leaves me confused with anxiety and left upset by the over complicated crap versus everyone being on the same page. Women fuck casually too. We aren't all slaves to our wittle emotions
/r/seduction18/07/22 06:58 AM
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Right? Like if I didn't have any emotional attachment or attraction yet, I'd honestly forget about it too and be like, After awhile with no text, "Oh. He must have fallen asleep" as that's like the most obvious case and shrug it off then go do whatever it was I was already doing. Some of these men think all we do is wait for their texts messages and shit. Like if im already involved with the person I might be thinking about the question, but still not give af since falling asleep is a normal thi…
/r/seduction18/07/22 06:55 AM
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Toxic men create a push and pull dynamic where they basically flood a woman with feel good chemicals then they get seriously depleted then he comes in to give her the rush again. It's a chemical addiction, that if women implemented, would also work and does work on men too. Toxic behavior like this just creates a rush then fall of dopamine and other addictive chemicals in the brain. It's like if I got someone addicted to heroine and they kept coming back to me. Clearly they're coming back for th…
/r/seduction18/07/22 06:48 AM
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Ooof. No no no. To us "open to anything" is "I'm looking for only sex but pretending that there could be a romantic thing if that gets in your pants." That's how we read into it cuz that's what happens. With a relationship comes sex though... so if you care more about a relationship then just say that. When women are on dating apps the ones who know they want a relationship know and are sure and will avoid you cuz you don't know what you want. They want a guy who is as sure as them about a relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 11:46 PM
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Imagine going to a busy deli in NYC and the guy asks what you want. You say "either a bagel or sub" Literally the deli guy would be like wtf. Just pick one or the other. Times a ticking bro. If you're ambiguous with what you want cuz you're "ok" with either you will get neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:16 PM
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Every woman is different What works best is to talk to us like you're trying to get to know us. Literally all you do is show interest in us and what we like without being overbearing. So many guys rely on lines and smooth talk when it's a HUGE turnoff since pickup lines and smooth talking is what men copy and paste to hundreds of women making us feel like just another drop in your bucket. The best and really only thing is to be straightforward. The minute I feel minute I feel confused about a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:13 PM
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She means someone who has made their intentions clear "I just want casual sex" vs pretending to want a relationship to just get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:01 PM
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It's not a good thing.... It hurts people. Once she realize what's happened she will leave and accuse you of abuse because that's what it is
/r/seduction16/06/22 12:31 AM
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When you psychologically use tricks it's called manipulation. You create a dependency of dopamine in her that you supply If I went around and got a woman addicted to heroine... she'd come back to me for the drug and not me She has no real love for ME but the chemicals I'm supplying When you manipulate a woman the same thing happens. Any man using those hacks and tricks will have the exact same results So, it's not love. It's creating codependency in someone
/r/seduction15/06/22 11:29 PM
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If im invested in a man and he pulls away imma assume I'm being too needy and ill get insecure and pull back so I don't overwhelm him and I'll find a guy who I don't feel like I'm annoying
/r/seduction15/06/22 11:26 PM
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