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CMVrus9384/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 06:42 PM
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rus9384/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 08:29 AM
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Discussionrus9384/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 08:54 AM
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Question For Womenrus9384/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 12:32 PM
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Question For Womenrus9384/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 04:27 PM
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Debaterus9384/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 09:56 AM
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rus9384/r/askTRP14/02/19 06:58 AM
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Discussionrus9384/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 12:37 PM
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Discussionrus9384/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 07:37 AM
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rus9384/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 11:54 PM
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The rest is stupid. Already can't buy booze before 21 in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:07 PM
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I think there are just different men. And enoying it does not mean you'd not enjoy a company or would enjoy it less.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 08:42 PM
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The point is that being alone sucks. And I don't mean being w/o a woman to fuck, just being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 08:22 PM
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women stastically have bigger friend groups Okay, but why don't men have? Are you gonna claim due to intrinsic value? What value do women provide to other women, that men can't provide to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 05:12 PM
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Again, I think the difference is not as big as you make it sound. Loneliness often is a code for dry spell.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:52 PM
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But not every woman is better than loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:45 PM
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public opinion leans pretty heavily in favor of some nebulous idea of forcing young men to "work in factories" Can you please show me the source? Maybe that's what Putin's propaganda wants people to believe. Also, there is no shortage of labor tbh. Unemployment is damn high.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 02:38 PM
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I am gonna chime in. I agree mostly, however I don't think getting commitment for unattractive women is really that much easier than for unattactive men. Sex? Absolutely is. I think these differences exist, but not as drastic. Do you feel the same for boys? They also are weaker than adult men. Or for old men? Is it really about weakness? Yes, the current western society is gynocentric. But it is culture-specific. In many cultures men have more rights than women, and historically this was the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 02:35 PM
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What about men who have those capabilities? By your logic they also should be valued by the society more, but that's not the case and they are called gay or something like that. Child upbringing is just labor, like any kind of other labor. Some people raise children, some people produce food, some people produce clothes... some people produce useless shit and convince others to buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 02:25 PM
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AI will replace us all, and we'll be no longer useful for the capitalist lords. Best case scenario is we'll be on our own, worst case: they will try to eliminate us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 02:10 PM
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Literally don’t give a fuck about what society says. If they don’t do that, they will always be miserable. Okay, but should they be united or not give a fuck about each others too? If no, that's just a new society. Why should they not care about each others though? They are bound by the same problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 02:08 PM
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So, you have admitted that the value women have is not intrinsic but culture-dependent. I.e. it's not over.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 02:01 PM
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I'd say it was more about women having the life goal, the one that requires marrying beta men. Back then not only men had the life goals, sexlessness was lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 01:43 PM
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Okay, so, your argument is that all births are good? Can't agree. There are women which are better to not reproduce, and on visceral level many men also think such women exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 01:32 PM
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My point was not if she was valued or not. My point is "how is this value intrinsic?" This value is not intrinsic at all and is defined by the culture. You need just look at the Middle East to see I am right.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 09:32 PM
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Now try to answer to yourself. If a woman had her vagina somehow damaged in a way a penis could not be inserted inside it, would that woman still be valuable?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 09:05 PM
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Thinking of women as of human beings never was a feminist thought. Women always were considered humans. It is just that people believed not all people are equal in their parameters. And that's generally true: women generally are worse in sports and so on than men. I don't think wanting to be accepted as completely equal ("I can run as fast as fastest men") is really reasonable. That should not be the goal. People are too keen on equality these days. When they really should be keen on benevolence…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:49 AM
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Yes, feminism causes lack of equality. Feminism pushed the society to treat women even better than they were (even better than princesses) and they became even more infantile (less risk-taking, patient, etc.). Because feminism =/= egalitarianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:32 AM
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I mean, humans have greater reasoning capacity, but animals also have some. I.e. wolves also can reason and count, but can't grasp multiplication. Either way, reasoning also is the product of evolution, and follows the same rules other products of evolution do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 07:14 PM
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Yeah, but only as long as they are on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 12:52 PM
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Yeah, when people say something like "childfree people are just genetically broken" or something like that that's hogwash, of course. But that's not what TRP tells. It has no problem with childfrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 01:45 PM
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It is right that biology does not say what you should do. But it says what animals are inclined to do. So, the claim can be changed to "biology says people are inclined to act in ways that let them spread their genes". "Not spreading your genes goes against your biological programming" This one actually is easy. Biological programming is to do stuff that lets to spread genes (sex). But with birth control sex alone no more lets you to do that. One could say there are no genes making people avoid …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 08:55 AM
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Uh, that's not right as well. There exist species where some specimen let other fellow specimen reproduce. In extreme cases that's eusociality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 08:23 AM
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I said working out. Something that seriously builds muscles. The Venus of Mylo in no way represented the average woman. Statues were made for the richest of the richest, and those statues represented teenagers only. Source? At 20 any woman had their breasts reduced to a flat hanging triangle, because bras had not been invented yet. You really think bras help to keep breasts in shape?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 10:40 PM
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Actually, for Russian peasant women that's not true. Besides famine years the situation with food was not that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:34 AM
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Actually, I remember there was Osiris' bust surrounded by two full-height statues of women. Which actually look fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 09:36 PM
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I am not saying that fits my ideal, but the ideal of the author for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 09:34 PM
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In fact it is quite rare for a woman to be lean/toned and have protuding boobs at the same time unless if she has very good genetics or did plastic surgery. Not that rare... And after all, even a fit woman is not bodybuilder level low on fats.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 09:33 PM
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Think "Russian peasant woman". Haggard by 30. You say so like they know jack shit about Russian history.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 04:13 PM
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Women did not work out that much. Low body fat does not inherently imply small tits. You can look at Venus of Mylo, that still is based on what beautiful contemporary women looked like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 04:04 PM
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Oh, wow. Thanks for wasting my time since you initially agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 05:55 PM
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Wow, that's late. In Russia we go to school since 6-7 and in 6th grade like a half of girls had at least some small tits. But that's exactly what I said. You don't consider ethnic factor. Russian girls have been marrying at 12 for centuries before the USSR appeared after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 05:53 PM
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No. Breast begin developing about 2 years after the first period happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 05:30 PM
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Great. Now my claim is that girls look mature enough in 4 years after the puberty has begun. I am not sure when it actually begins, but almost all of my classmates began developing breasts by 13.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 05:10 PM
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Right. But that means the earlier the periods begin, the sooner the girl matures?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 05:02 PM
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I am not sure the point you are trying to make. If they look mature enough, they are sexually arousing. Does not even matter if they still have menstruations (some infertile women never have them).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 04:58 PM
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Girls who lived pre agriculture would have often been under fed. Often does not even mean in the majority of cases. Also, not to forget, lomger lifetime expectations coming from agricultural revolution likely pushed the menarche a bit further. Also, it does not matter a lot. It means modern 15 year olds likely look as mature as medieval 18 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 04:53 PM
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Yes, and theu come from Victorian Europe, where girls were underfed to fit the beauty trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 04:20 AM
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They would have impregnated which ever has the highest success rate They would impregnate anyone who will not produced an unfit offspring with high probability. First periods were about 14 - 16 (and that's the start of puberty) after that secondary characteristics are formed over a couple of years (boobs, hips ect) that would indicate that the body could successfully carry a baby to term. There is no evidence of this in tribes. The studies were taken in Victorian Europe, but according to histori…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 04:19 AM
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I'd say biologically it is always better to take a chance in an impregnation than not at all, as long as genetically the woman is not that bad. It's not about fertility, sperm is cheap anyway. The reason older women are not as desirable is genetic damage that occurs more frequently as a woman ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:16 PM
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I think there's a difference between saying "men are attracted to teenagers" and "men are attracted to women who appear sexually mature and some women reach that in their late teens" What I am saying is that most 15-16 year old girls appear mature enough to be sexually arousing. Yes, they are not as physically mature as, say, 23 year old women, but that already is usually enough to arouse a man. Or not, depends on a woman (some women are not arousing at any age, although there is always a weirdo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:11 PM
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Oh, I mean yes, maternal mortality probably is higher in teenagers. But also is higher in women past 40? Yet the nature still has made both fertile (just not as fertile as 25 year olds).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:07 PM
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I've read it and no, you did not address the ethnic differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:03 PM
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Primal women would have started their periods a lot later, about 15 - 18. Primal women means women living in 19th century Europe? That's where studies showing girls become bleeding at 16 came from.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:02 PM
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Not mistaken for adults, I never said that. Just close enough to adults to be sexually arousing. Like, from what I remember from the schooltime, waist-hip ratio already is formed by around 16. For faces I agree, but there is a certain difference between 12 year olds and 15 year olds. I'd say 15 year olds are closer facially to 18 year olds than to 12 year olds. The same for voices.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:00 PM
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TBH, girls begin bleeding earlier than at 15. Also, I suppose in some countries people literally physically mature faster. So, we can't globalize any arguments regarding age of consent and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:38 PM
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While, ~15 is not the prime age for women, at that point girls already are developed enough to cause sexual feelings in men. Like, they already have somewhat like B breasts, developed hips, faces that are closer to adult faces and so on. So, I'd not say they actually look like children.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:09 PM
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I'm appalled at the number of people classifying sex as "losing" for a woman, even if she thoroughly wanted it. Their argument would be that she is just not aware enough. Like how a child would be losing if he touches a hot kettle. I.e. a woman risks being undesirable with kids. (Not that I necessarily agree with that, but I think it objects to your post)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 01:19 PM
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Just because women are the ones staying home means neither that their QoL of life remains on the same level, nor that they'd like to continue living that way once the epidemic is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 12:30 PM
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Nah, wanting casual sex was much more common than happening to be in a social circle where others also want casual sex mostly. That's a big reason why casual sex should have become more common since the advent of the internet. Just as any thematic circles. But I expect that even now it is easy for such circles to break and you would need to find others from time to time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:23 PM
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People over 35 barely have social circles to find someone for sex. Their friends mostly are married, and party life is over. I think the older you are the more dependent on the internet you are if you are looking for casual sex. But anyway, men who can afford ONS instead of FBs kinda must be swimming in pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 04:46 PM
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Swimming takes willingness more than looks tbh. Guys who approach a lot and don't give fucks also tend to be rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 04:24 PM
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Better to ask OP I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 04:23 PM
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TBF, women often go above their league in casual sex. An average slutty woman likely casually fucks men who are swimming in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 04:19 PM
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I think OP meant disrespect even before and during intercourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 04:17 PM
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Those men treat women they casually fuck like a crap because they can. If they want relationships they gotta have a disguise, so she is willing to stay with them. After that they still treat those women like crap, but those women like that, because they are alpha in their eyes. On a serious note, horror stories are everywhere, women just vet less carefully for casual sex, which means increased chances to get a bad man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 08:20 AM
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Yeah, but not like BDSM degree dominant. In usual sex there also is some kind of marginal dominance (it is extremely unlikely for two people to be perfectly even in dominance), but nobody thinks of it as like BDSM dominance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 05:53 PM
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Those still were a minority of followers. Basically, people with leadership qualities who just happened to appear followers and decided to change this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 02:19 PM
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Men never explained women what exactly to do and how to do stuff. She had to decide herself how to cook and what to wash.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 01:21 PM
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Well, I could also say everyday life dynamic, not BDSM dynamic. Men don't like to take the lead in BDSM sense. To draw a parallel with everyday life, it is like to tell a woman for how long she should be baking a cake and which exactly clothes she should wash and etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 01:18 PM
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Well, even the mainstream TRP assumption is this, while BP assumption is that being alpha is not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 01:08 PM
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Most men never were dominant. Most men always were followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 01:07 PM
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I remember one article saying that 33% of men had a FWB (vs. 41% for women). Just a FWB, not counting ONS, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 12:22 AM
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Depends on how you present that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 12:21 AM
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Well, I just mean that what makes Vlad Vlad is his confident attitude, appearing like a leader of a local gang of gopniks (no, no tracksuits in a night club, it is a night club, after all).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 09:53 PM
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Yeah, because only 5% of men had casual sex in their lives /s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 09:51 PM
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Because I don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 09:51 PM
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Hm, cuddling is good for FWBs. Actually, a way to make sex with you more valuable to FWBs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 09:49 PM
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To be honest, it is pretty easy to hookup without making a woman dead drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 09:47 PM
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Yeah, but how many men are really ugly, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 09:44 PM
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Man, with Russian women TRP works with 146% efficiency. However, sometimes you can just hang out without applying TRP and still get laid, lol. My convictions are strong "enough" to act on them, but not to fanatically believe in them, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 09:41 PM
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They say this to strangers on the internet or friends. If they are saying this to dates, then I think it is not a smart move.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 11:50 PM
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Hm, I did not say only city. Both statements were true for the general majority. Either way, women with N < 10 who had ONS exist, and they are not rare. You know, they say something like "I tried it, and did not expect it to suck that much, but now I know."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 10:29 PM
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Sure, but so far the idea that many men hold is the higher it is, the less the woman values herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 10:10 PM
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Sure, but I think most women who have high N counts are the ones that are exceptions to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 10:09 PM
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Well, you said N < 10 is acceptable for LTRs to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 10:02 PM
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Yes is does. Most women had 1 or 2 ONS and still are below N = 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 10:00 PM
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Because most women still want commitment. Not all women, though, which is my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 09:57 PM
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Yeah, otherwise she'd have corns in her vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 09:55 PM
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Sure, a man always increases his chances when he does not put it on his profile that he only is up for casual sex. However, if he did he'd not completely nullify his chances, at least if he is very good looking and has an otherwise great profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 09:51 PM
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All matches of that woman would be nearly Chads then, so Idk how is she undervaluing herself, especially if she's Becky.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 09:49 PM
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There are women who were hooked with the mouse trap of offered commitment, but there also are women who'd fuck men casually without such promises and therefore without being surprised and enraged once the man does not offer commitment after sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 09:46 PM
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See the edit, I added a paragraph. Also, Idk, at least those men probably had never had a woman enjoy casual sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 09:31 PM
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Sure, but these men probably think sex is only good for men and therefore the only way for a woman to get something out of sex is to get commitment from it. At least it was ingrained into their brains by conservative (mostly religious) propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 09:28 PM
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I am not personally thinking that, but men who think that would say that casual sex feels only good for men (I would guess they believe sex at all does not feel good to women), therefore a woman having casual sex is a doormat, ergo does not value herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 09:21 PM
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While it is said being 'tradcon' has become more popular in gen Z, if anything, they demonstrate an ever growing leftist sentiment, and it has been captured with multiple studies. Either way, being 'tradcon' also is not what makes guys get laid. And guys who are seeking that exist, even when TRP is just resting in ruins.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 10:03 PM
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Well, that they are just laughed at for being different and not taken seriously. I would say, this also encourages women to see them as losers (which is more than just being "uncharmed" by them), I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:44 AM
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Okay, that sounds OK. I mean, there still is just this idea that men have to be stoic, which, though, leads some mentally diordered guys to suicidal thoughts. That's what I dislike in the current society. It is not even that their dicks are dry the main problem that I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:37 AM
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What do you mean by "putting in their place?" What is their place, really?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:19 AM
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Show me where I said I couldn't go against biology. Where did I say you can't? You said you bully guys due to biology. While you also are able to not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:15 AM
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See, you can go against biology. What I mean is, though, you actually lose by pushing other guys being more masculine. You let biology make you act suboptimally. Not red pill, dude...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:09 AM
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This is all just excuses. That's a caveman thinking. Imagine you also would say "I rape because of biology."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 11:50 PM
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Okay, maybe when there are girls around. But when there are none? I don't see a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 08:00 PM
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Stopping other guys from becoming more feminine have given you a lot of pussy? How?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 07:51 PM
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What do you win from it though? A wasted effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 05:18 PM
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But they at least should stop being an obstacle for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:47 PM
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It is pretty boring, though. These are not conclusions but women's self-reports.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 10:00 AM
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Well, the point is, women mostly don't come to Tinder to find bfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 09:58 AM
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You don't. Better to have a current boyfriend, right? Either way, my point is, men fantasize about fucking strangers, women usually don't, as they are fantasizing either about their current bfs or exes. And I assume they'd try to have sex with these guys as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 09:31 AM
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Well, that's the thing. The more exes you have, the easier it is to find an ex to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 08:17 AM
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Citation needed. No, because the rule is not absolute as suggested by the second sentence. Also I’m pretty sure my ex would rather stick glass shards in his eyes than fuck me. Then why did he date you? Also, I just gave an example. Yes, bad break ups are a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 08:00 AM
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Exceptions exist, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 07:10 AM
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I'm starting to doubt that the gender ratio is roughly 1:1. On Tinder it is 4:1. So, to bring it to 1:1, a man would have 120 likes in a day. But also single men are horny. Single women are not, and when they are, they fuck exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 02:02 PM
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MGTOW per se is not feminine in any way. It is just that they are hateful whiners. Actually a bachelor who just does not want relationships is not laughed at. At least from what I see even on shows they are shown as somewhat respectable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 12:40 PM
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A man is not trying to attract women all the time. If he needs that macho facade sometimes it does not mean the society should force him to hold it all the time in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 12:38 PM
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Nobody forces men to follow these roles. Just to stop laughing at men who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 12:37 PM
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Not the point. Men are more likely to empathize with women than with men is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 12:36 PM
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Women actually waited for some time. Feminist thoughts were here and there basically all the time, but e.g. almost nobody took Mary Wollstonecraft seriously at her time. Feminism gained success because of the decrease in demand for militarization.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 12:34 PM
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But you see, men are doing nothing to challenge that, besides a small group called MRA that also is too dumb to convince women and other men that men have problems as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 12:32 PM
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Certainly not a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 01:16 AM
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Becoming a leader already is success in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 09:19 PM
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Yes, I thought that if losers ever will have a leader, that will be a successful man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 08:50 PM
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To men all women are girls. Not all men are boys though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 08:49 PM
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Accepting anti-alcohol ideology is based on logical reasoning. Also on values in life. Hedonism would not let people completely disallow alcohol in most cases. Can you name the gene that increases the probability of accepting anti-alcohol ideology? By their code names? No, I am not a professional geneticist. Also one would assume recklessness (i.e. weaker instinct of self-preservation) being associated with hedonistic views.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 05:57 PM
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Still, not most men. Only those who have not been burnt out by being friendzoned. These are teenagers mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 05:05 PM
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My point is, most men don't actually circlejerk to women. Imagine a man saying "you go, queen."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 04:44 PM
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"Real" in this case means something like: "You are not a 'real' man, you are a boy."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 04:12 PM
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I disagree. Ideology is based on philosophical and/or logical reasoning. Neither is solely based on your genetic make-up. It can support "biology" or deny it. Biology is not uniform. If a person does not want to procreate, even if they were not taught to not procreate, there is more than ideology to it. "Your biology is what makes you accept ideology" Genotype and outer factors produce phenotype. Therefore phenotype can be seen as a function of two variables, and when you change any of them, exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 04:07 PM
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Yeah, it is similar to mine, but makes more assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 03:02 PM
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We already had some guy in the thread who explained how biological goals seen in humans are also observable in the animal kingdom, thus there must be biological goals untouched from ideology. This still treats ideology as a completely separate from biology entity, rather than a product of biology itself. Yes, just like ideology can actively battle abovementioned biological goals like self-preservation, both long-term and short-term. And that's the thing: it is their biology that makes them accep…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:59 PM
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I don't think that is their own reasoning. It is Rollo's evolutionary reasoning, which can be the case, but women just are made being more supportive to each other. In particular, it could be that, when a woman is left alone with another person, it would be safer for her if that person also was a woman. So, in an experiment where she can save one stranger, either a man or a woman (the other person dies), women more likely would save women. TBH, this even would explain why men are white knighting…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:29 PM
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Yes, but when those women are strangers who did not hurt her anyhow? "Must be supportive to them."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:20 PM
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So...you reacted by doubling down on your misrepresentation instead of answering the question on where you were getting your narrative from? Yes, I doubled down, because you either had to prpvide a different premise for your argument or accept this one. An argument without a premise is meaningless. Btw topic at hand was biological incentive vs social structure. Sure, but you argued that human's natural goal is to procreate which is what I rejected. You claimed that I am confusing ideological goa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 01:51 PM
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I actually reacted. I said that if it is not so, then what is the support of your argument? But there is none. That's the point. You did not yet provide any reason to accept your statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 01:07 PM
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misrepresentation Okay, I agree with that, but lying implies intention. You did not provide the evidence of intention. You lost credibility every single step of the way and now you are engaging in textbook projection to prevent the cognitive dissonance from eating you alive. Live with your dreams.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 01:02 PM
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You have no proof that I was intentionally saying faulty things. If that's your belief, so be that, but now I disagree with that... So, retract that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 12:56 PM
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You can believe whatever you want. You lost credibility in my eyes, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 12:53 PM
1

Yeah, no, dude. No monkey dancing just for you. You appear controlling and can find other victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 12:51 PM
1

I was wrong and retract my statements. Now tell me what you mean by "natural".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 12:48 PM
1

Okay, then tell me what you mean by "natural". So far to me it seems your point is that I should agree with you on what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 12:43 PM
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But not when it comes to life problems. Then they feel a strong urge to circlejerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 12:28 PM
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Because women are too afraid to be harsh to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 12:26 PM
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Every woman is only "real" to other women and white knights.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 12:24 PM
1

I did not actually make any claim. I only said that you seem to think so. You did not yet make it clear if my assumption was right or wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 12:09 PM
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Okay, it just means you don't want to defend premises that would make your argument meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 12:05 PM
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Never said that. Can you please stop throwing everything at the wall in hopes something sticks? Can I take this for "No, I don't believe genes and genomes have production of their own copies as their goals"? You can be gay and also spread your genome. Let's speak evolutionary. Before modern technology has appeared. Look at gay males who get themselves surragotes, look at lesbians who visit the sperm bank. These are new things. Gay genes have existed long before sperm banks and surrogacy. But it …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 11:46 AM
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Say, being a gay is not an ideology (I am not talking about LGBT movement now), but it also makes the person not spreading his genome.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 11:00 AM
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But you seem to assume ideology is not affected by genes?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:55 AM
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So, there is a mistake in your thinking. You assume that everyone's goal is to spread genes. Well, it does not work that way, as genetics are randomistic. There always will be people who will place other goals above spreading genes. And also nothing will beat transhumanism in gene preservation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:42 AM
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Only with fallacies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:26 AM
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I could argue that people living in houses also is against biological wiring. But you see, those who claim feminism is battling human nature for some reason want people to live in houses with extended families, not tribes. They are just uneducated or hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:22 AM
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It all depends on social structure. Everything moves towards a direction where partners become less needed. Like, husbands barely are protecting their wives today, and that protection is not even needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 07:48 AM
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Yes, women are inconsistent. They want to eat their cake and have it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 10:02 PM
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No, I'm saying the opposite: men stopped giving women autonomy as they got smarter. Huh, again, it is tied to wars. Feminism owes its success in part to social advances in which total wars have become quite a rare occurence. Especially speaking of the US, a country that never has been in a total war. It's not just women's safety, it's that having a personal sex slave ensures you have kids rather than having to go fight off other males every time you want to fuck, like a lot of animals do. It is …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 09:14 PM
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In most animal species, a male will fight off other males and fuck the female. Most animal species are not social. Think about wolves. Males don't actually fight for access to females there all the time. Yes, 4000 BC is recent in the grand scheme of things, but realistically it's a long time ago and was actually around when humans were becoming more intelligent. Not at all. Arts exist for at least as 40000 years. But what wikipedia says actually is what I have been saying in this thread. The agr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 09:07 PM
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Prior to the advent of wider society, "humans" were barely classified as humans. They literally were not the same species, we had homo erectus and homo hostilis prior to us. There was a large timeframe between when homo sapiens has originated and when the recorded history has begun. Like, 20000 years ago humans already were homo sapiens and yet it is a time of unrecorded history. Also, even though our ancestors were not as smart as us, many other, much less smart primates still treat females bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 07:40 PM
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There was literally no consequence to rape in ancient times lol. They cared about consent as much as animals do... bc they literally were borderline animals, they were not as developed as us. Unless you get into post-advent of monogamy/agricultural revolution. Okay, this is not even recorded history and therefore... source? I mean, sure, in some tribes women did not have any value at all, and in some tribes woman's role is actually recognized as important and women are respected. Tribes are not …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:51 PM
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It was unsafe to meet men in general, her tribe or not. When it is her tribe, there is at least some kind of fear of being persecuted by other men of the same tribe. When it is a stranger... who even knows where that man is even from. Do you actually think ancient peoples gave a fuck about raping their own women lmao I am not even sure that pre-historic times were as anti-women as ancient times (again, depending on where to look at, ancient India seems to be not as bad as ancient Near East.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:33 PM
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That women feeling uncomfortable and wanting to live when stranger men watch at the, has helped women to not get raped. I mean, back when people were living in tribes, it was very unsafe for women to meet men from other tribes alone. Like, if such a man was straing at her when she was not alone, it might mean he was planning how to make them appear alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:09 PM
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A woman’s evolutionary goal is to secure the best seed possible. More seeds, the greater is the quality of the best seed. Kinda like the richest person in your neighborhood very likely is much less rich than Bezos. Fucking indiscriminately by having casual sex with many different men means she’ll come across men with bad seed, which is antithetical to that evolutionary goal Even sluts don't fuck indiscriminately. They fuck best men they can get within some timespan (which I guess would be tied t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:16 PM
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With that said, I don't know why women connect exclusivity with love, because a lot of possesive pricks in excluaive relarionships don't care about woman's sexual satisfaction as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:01 PM
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Here is the thing. Memory is the same, but the brain is different. And self-perception is different. Sure, you can argue that the experiment is meaningless, ill-defined and flawed, but then nothing in the thread makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 04:00 PM
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Well, think about kissing a dude. In some cultures it is not gay and in some it is and non-gays find it gross, but given a female body would they feep the same? Since it is due to a cultural rule, as soon as a man accepts a female body and adjusts his role accordingly, he'd think it is ok to kiss dudes. Not to say that this always would be the thing, but still. And yet, that newly made woman still would miss a lot of stuff that girls are taught in some schools and by many parents. In particular …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 03:50 PM
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I think to the lizard brain it is a bit different: He is unattractive => a brain is more likely to assume he does nt care about her personality. He is attractive => "well, he wants sex with me, but pretty surely he also can appreaciate the person." (And no, attractiveness is not just looks)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 03:42 PM
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I mean, look at it this way: many dudes would not wear pink because it appears gay to them, but I think in a female body they would not hesitate wearing pink. Or think about dresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 03:36 PM
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Well, what I am saying is that UC folks indeed are initerested in spreading the idea that marriage is the best way to live. I actually am not even sure UC folks themselves need marriage that much, as they can have connection to do some illegal documentary stuff anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 02:31 PM
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It will get pretty shitty with UC folks becoming increasingly richer (richer than the govt. itself) anyway. More and more positions in the government will be lobbied and it will lead to a dystopia or a revolution either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 02:29 PM
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It is not my argument. it is that these folks who scream aboit how the society is gonna collapse as marriage becomes less common... are not UC people, as I have noticed. Their society is serving their masters anyway, nothing great to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 02:25 PM
1

Penis in vagina sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 01:57 PM
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This kind of talk doesn't happen to girls, or to a much lesser extent. I remember when I were a kid I watched some thriller movie with erotic content on TV (it was late and I am quite an owl person). Our class was areanged in such a way that boys usually shared desks with girls. I asked the desk-neighbor of mine if she has seen it and she said yes. Maybe girls don't discuss it that openly, or maybe they just don't duscuss in in front boys, they still see that stuff. Anyone can get accidentally s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 01:32 PM
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I think that's taught behaviour for men who are encouraged by their peers since a very young age to watch porn and masturbate. Studies show that usually boys just learn that rubbing dicks is pleasurable, so they do that and often form a dependency. No encouragement from peers is needed for it. Actually, when I was a teen admitting that you jerk was seen as a sign of being a loser, even though I suspect everyone was jerking. Also, multiple studies show that men within relationships masturbate mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 12:54 PM
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Desensitization requires some kind of sensitization being in the first place. What I argue is that it was not there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 12:45 PM
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I think that if women want to live separately, they should take that opportunity. Unite and buy land only for women and live there without men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 12:43 PM
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Considering how society was sexist and women were for little use besides sex ... Actually, no, women were seen as mothers, home cooks and housekeepers. Yeah, the society was sexist, that's true. But that has originated far before porn. And even before the society existed men have sexualized women all the time and rape was very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 12:41 PM
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That's a big sack of bullshit. Before porn men jerked to pictures and before pictures? That probably means before men have learnt to draw which is far before historical record. They most of the time don't see a person but a sexual body. A sexual person all the time. I tried to see thought their clothes. Im not proud of how creepy I was Okay, maybe this is due to porn, but a man does not need to see through clothes to get horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 12:34 PM
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Because men and women overall have on average just as much need for sex and intense sexuality. What I mean is that for a man to reach from non-horny to horny state it can take only seconds. Because men and women overall have on average just as much need for sex and intense sexuality. Well, most women who masturbate usually do that out of boredom or for health benefits. Men jerk to satisfy urges mostly. However a woman in a couple can be aroused very simply by just seeing her partner the same way…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 12:32 PM
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That makes sense, as woman's sexuality is not that sharp. It takes longer to arouse a woman. It takes just an image of a beautiful woman to arouse a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 12:19 PM
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If a woman stares at a man most of the time she just find him elegant/charismatic and it has nothing to do with nailing him. I am not even sure in that. I thought most of the time she finds a guy too extravagant or weird-looking or whatever (and yeah, she'd not date/fuck him, except for rare women). Anyway, my point is that a man, unoess he actually is in relationships, would not mind some girls being sexually attracted to him. Not even Chad has such an abundance that he just walks on the street…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 12:11 PM
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It is pretty easy to lie about it in speed dating. Especially when men are not considering it being long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 11:53 AM
2

I think quantity also matters. More people => more model-looking people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 11:52 AM
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No, it is not normative "should". It is descriptive "should". Like, if marrying a high-ranking man is not the best way to increase a woman's own status why would she do that and not follow the best way to increase her own status? Observable reality shows: Even career women of high status want men of higher status than them Right, why would a high-status woman marry at all if she can raise kids anyway, that's my point? There is a trend showing that women are less likely to marry now. OTOH, it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 11:20 AM
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Generally speaking it means to dehumanize someone by turning them into something only sexual. Just because I think about sex with someone, it does not mean they are obly worthy for sex. And yeah, while maybe women think this way, my explanation on why women think that way at least makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 11:10 AM
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Yeah, that makes sense. But somewhere in NYC I would expect women to have pretty high N on median.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 11:08 AM
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Only women, I think. A man would want to be stared at by women. He realizes that just because he is sexually desired it does not mean he is not desired for anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 11:07 AM
1

Well, this is the point. Your friends are not an unbiased selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 11:04 AM
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Because in the wild stranger men checking women out often led to rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 11:04 AM
0

A man can find a plain woman attractive over time. But not a woman he finds ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 10:58 AM
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I expect that in the inverse ratio men would be pickier than with the IRL ratio, but not sure by how much. Idk how many women an average man would want be banging at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 10:56 AM
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I mean, the US is increasing the amount of women in politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 10:54 AM
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"Should" interpolating what is observed in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 10:54 AM
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Sure, but not everybody is honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 10:53 AM
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I think attractiveness ratings also can vary depending on circumstances. Maybe if I was surrounded by tons of models for the whole month, I would become way more judgemental to looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 10:53 AM
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Idk if it is a need, or if it is just a desire. Like, very Christian guys also don't hook up, even though sex and variety feel better. It is just that betraying their religious values feels worse to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 10:52 AM
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Married men are more motivated to become employees of companies ran by UC people. Or, rather, marriage-minded men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 10:02 AM
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I think it can vary from a place to a place. Like, I would imagine a lot of N = 0 and N = 1 women coming from the Bible belt.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 10:00 AM
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See, it is a benefit just for the upper class. Perhaps anyone who defends it, just likes the life of being a servant of UC people. Doing what they want you to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 09:59 AM
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Of course they would count ONS. Do you not count ONS for sex if it involves vaginal penetration? That's what I mean, a significant part of women have ONS or FWBs or STRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 09:57 AM
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But this is about what percentage of opposite sex members did men and women find attractive. Is it really? Swiping left is not the same as thinking that she would never ever date that man, even if her pick of men became much smaller. Like a man can accept any woman above 6, but say he is rich and is picking a sugar baby. He can reject any 7 in advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 09:51 AM
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Data pool too small. How so? There is a nearly 0 probability that it is very different from the general trend extending to ~100m american women in that age category. Method of selection unknown. I think it is pretty known, as they usually just select by chunks of people of various financial well-being, education level, race and age, which are proportional to the general population. But yes, other variables are not counted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 09:49 AM
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It is limited to the US. And I would guess about 60k as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 09:44 AM
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I actually find the study with forearm touches interesting, but do you really just touch a forearm and a woman just likes it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 09:44 AM
2

In speed dating besides visual factors of status and a manner of speech there is a little room to guess status and financial position.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 09:43 AM
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If you are talking about the study digedag posted, it's not talking about how they rate appearance but about how many approaches are accepted. Well, that is the point of dating studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 09:38 AM
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Just because these men did not get any proposal does not mean none of them got a match from their own proposals.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 09:37 AM
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So, a woman on average gets 1.17 matches when she proposes and a man on average gets 1 match when he proposes. It seems obvious why men would like women to propose. At least a significant fraction of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 09:34 AM
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Many men now are not even motivated to make families. They are not gonna get motivation if they all women suddenly get marriage-worthy. The desire for marriage was in part fueled by religion, but now that its influence has became weaker, the desire for marriage itself has disappeared in a lot of people. These men don't really want to marry, and they don't want to work hard in any circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 09:28 AM
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It is not just attraction, because a woman might hesitate to have casual sex even with Chad. Because in most human subgroups it still is discouraged. Be that with Chad or an average dude or whoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 09:20 AM
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Never said it is, as men's status is even less dependent on women's status than vice versa. At least so far. But as the trend continues, the expected outcome is that women would marry with lesser willingness, would chase higher-than-them-ranking men less (so, reduction in hypergamy) and strengthen social ties that give them status (in particular FSM ties).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 09:16 AM
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Only about a half of sexless men thinks this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 09:11 AM
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It is pretty complex. It is possible they are just getting status by fucking sons of high-ranking females. I mean, status is what animals strive for, as it gives reproductive advantage. With that said, it is possible that an average female bonobo could fuck almost any male in the tribe anyway. Low-ranking males just would get less sex, I guess. Either way, as women's status gets more independent on men's status, their incentive in chasing higher status males get lower. Back then marrying a high-…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 09:06 AM
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I lean towards 5 and what I mean by that is that social attitudes towards women's sexuality should change. These attitudes are to a great degree formed by young men themselves, so to some extent their are causing their own misery, but they are also formed by older men and women of various ages as well. What I mean by this is that women are expected to both please men with casual sex by a lot of men, but then these women also are seen as unworthy of relationships, which produces a dilemma. I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 09:00 AM
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Sexless is not just about casual sex. It is about sex altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 08:56 AM
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It was an example. It is quite similar in any species where males don't have higher status than females.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 08:55 AM
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You musunderstood. E.g. in bonobos males have no own status at all and females don't actually use it to decide if they would fuck a male. I am not sure but probably thet decide it by looking at his mother, if she has high enough status she will fuck him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 08:51 AM
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I doubt it would be that high at all. The recent hot post from r/dataisbeautiful shows that more than 20% of women have 10 or more partners by the time of their first marriage. Also, more than a half of women tried casual sex, but it usually is once or twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 08:38 AM
1

Then status already should matter little to young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 08:32 AM
1

Most men still earn more than their female earn-match.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 08:28 AM
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I would say that the fact that we are also talking about heterosexual men I suppose they would feel strange doing heterosexual sex in a woman's body. You probably end up with a rather crass and masculine lesbian instead. I would dispute that. People to a great degree do what they have learned is what they should do. People are playing the role game. If a man turned to a woman his brain also would switch his role. A lot of men are straight not because cocks are gross, but because TWO cocks togeth…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 08:24 AM
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Except one thing. If pregnancy occurs the only way for a man to mitigate that issue is to somehow convince a woman to abort or to become a deadbeat parent. For a woman she herself just needs to abort, which costs much less than raising a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 08:22 AM
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Well, in latin america women already make a half of politicians, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 08:20 AM
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For females they are typically attracted to indictaors of high social status. In species where males have inherently higher status than females. With feminism people are going to be no more such species.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 08:19 AM
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A lot of that female stuff is actually upbringing. You are raised with protective parents who teach you to avoid boys and sex with them. I noticed that daughters of alcoholics or simply parents who don't care much have a much greater chance of being sluts and hooking up as teens. Now, see, boys are raised in the latter way and there is a great chance they would turn into their female equivalents who did not have very sexually protective parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 08:11 AM
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Would be problematic to get woman's SOI score. Would be problematic to get her N count. I don't get why all these threads exist, it is not like they are discussing anything of practical value.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 02:07 PM
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Yes, we should sexually emancipate high N women so they are not inclined to get a marriage that like will end up with cheating and divorce. We should provide them means to feel content without ever getting married, which would also reduce male sexless, even if slightly, and reduce the demand for sex workers therefore resulting in reduction in human trafficking. And of course would also save a lot of nerves by reducing number of divorces. You know, it is said, "don't marry a hoe." Also, don't try…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 02:00 PM
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This is true, but this is not what OP meant by "dressing for herself." Like, technically everyone dresses for themselves, but it is is not what that pharase means in the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 09:11 AM
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46 on TRP. Not far behind 52. on FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 08:56 AM
1

And that skews the statistic greatly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 08:54 AM
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I would find then rather cute and cuddly. Only if you are talking about a toy hippo. Real ones don't look cute at all. Not cuter than cows, for sure. Sure, most men who talk about ok having a bi woman dating other women only assume nothing special between her and other women. Also, they often think with dicks and imagine threesomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 10:25 PM
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I am almost sure ancient men destroyed these species exactly because they dif not want to feel it many more times in your life or anybody else feel it either. They also killed mammoths and mammoths likely were similar to elephants, i.e. not aggressive to humans. Also, I think not every man has such an instinct towards N counts. Damn, a considerable portion of men thinks bachelor lifestyle is the best one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 10:04 PM
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Like how some men believe they would be able to fight a jaguar with spears I don't doubt a group of men is capable to kill jaguars with spears, though. Tribal people caused extinction of many dangerous animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 09:24 PM
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I mean, men probably assume nothing serious between their GF and another girl. They would be okay with it, but they don't consider the case where their GF would be seriously engaged with anothe girl. As for a 'normal' high n count woman, I think most men already don't think they want it. There is a minority who DGAFs, though. Until they get cheated on, if that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 09:11 PM
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Many attractive women attract men who are abusive physically and/or emotionally, which is what FDS serves as a refuge to for many of its users. I would say most of FDS methods are oriented on securing a man who is willing to spend time and money for a woman, not a man who is not abusive. Remember that many, if not most abusers abuse out of feeling entitled to abuse because "they spent time and money on her, bought gifts, commited to her, etc."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 10:06 PM
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Now with feminism the pressure is much lower. And you are assuming the women coming to FDS are as good as average women which is not true, because average women date fine without FDS. It takes having bad looks, bad personality, high standards, or ulterior motives to be brought to FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 09:55 PM
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Yes, and don't you see that FDS preaches to admit that it is how the world is and to continue acting that way because "the society can suck it"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 09:51 PM
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FDS preaches to be less agreeable which in the reality results in women who already have only 20/100 agreeableness to move to 0/100 agreeableness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 09:45 PM
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The self-improvement women adopt is not the self-improvement that is important for relationships. Women try to be hot and look slutty to gather more attention, but sorry women, you also need to learn how to agree with your men at least sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 09:38 PM
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No, the whole thread was just about you explaining how classifying promiscuous women feels repulsive to women. But really, nobody holds you on the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 12:40 AM
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No, you just being offended by inherently inoffensive post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 11:59 PM
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Ah, so I see, you just thought this OP is screeching "All women are whores!" Okay, it probably is good for you to misinterpret it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 11:52 PM
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Hm, maybe because you are intentionally being unclear here. Anyway, ranting just for ranting is. Stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 11:47 PM
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But which characteristics are negative? You mean promiscuity is? Eh, it is all relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 11:14 PM
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So, you think the OP somehow makes promiscuous women sound like trash? I did not notice that. And again, this post includes to you only if you are promiscuous. It does not say all women in the given types are promiscious. If you are promiscuous and know your type and it does not match the description in the OP it does not mean the OP is wrong because the OP was not aimed to describe all promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 07:09 PM
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Yes, that's true. I just meant that if a man pays for you or something it does not necessarily mean it is his dream life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 07:04 PM
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Yeah, that's true. Male and female imperatives are not the same. Relationships are a trade. You still should being something instead of demanding you can do whatever you want in a relarionship while a man has to bring value to you. However, even such simps exist. Male doormats.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 05:56 AM
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I mean, I am sure they both know the value of objectivity. I am pretty sure OP did not pretend this is true for everyone just as MBTI itself is not the most objective theory. Who do you mean by "they"? OP and the person you talked to. Why would anyone expect someone to predict the realities of others before they even know those others exist? Because everyone's experience is different, people talk about what they have experienced and what is precise according to their experiences and experiences …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 12:37 AM
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Sex isn't a dogtreat that women 'give' to men wtf. Yeah, I agree, but let's be realistic: in most relationships it's a man who initiates sex, and it's usually a woman who turns down sex. Is she getting anything in return for this? This is a different question. We were talking about what a man sees high value. Not what kind of what gets the most out of men. It is like, you know, businesses that try to cater to employees too much are rare and can't compete with businesses that don't. But still, pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 12:28 AM
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Someone who does what a man wants. If a man wants her to cook, she cooks without fighting. If a man wants her to talk to him about some topic she talks. If he wants her to not talk to him she does not. If he wants sex she gives that to him. And so on. But really, if a woman does that even half of time, he usually also would treat her well. Because she already would be golden and a man would not want to lose her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 12:16 AM
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It is not treating like shit. I mean, these men don't call them names or shout at them for fun or demanding them to do a really dangerous or really nasty stuff. Some probably do, but most men don't have those perverted desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 12:12 AM
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It is not abuse because men want that woman to be happy being a doormat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 12:08 AM
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That's what men ideally want (a doormat who likes to be a doormat). But most can't pull it unless they are lucky to catch such a doormat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 11:53 PM
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By how much bring they into life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 11:37 PM
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You probably have missed the second part of the message. In short, a doormat is better than a woman who wants to do nothing for a given man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:58 PM
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I meant all people. All people have limited capacities. Omniscience is not what people have. You also were not being objective here. You just have seen their ideas that do not match your subjective experiences and got mad because they did not expect that your reality is what it is and not theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:37 PM
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Here is a red pill for you. It is what men ideally want and with other women they just have to compromise. Those other women are not higher value, it's just those men could get better and had to settle for a cuntier woman. That's hyberbolizing, but for men the hierarchy for women's value is: The highest: she likes what I like (and is hot and etc.). Medium: she does not like what I like but she nevertheless does it because I want her to. Low: she is a cunt who does not do what I want her to. FDS …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:28 PM
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It is more than about money. It is about henpecking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 02:57 PM
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It could be anybody. If I were an alt.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:51 AM
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What is this question even is? Of course I don't think I am an alt.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:43 AM
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Yeah, that's what I said. By their logic I also could be someone else's alt. 95% of PPD could be considered alts by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:13 AM
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And n_AMALT has an authorly voice of azngirl?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:11 AM
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Yes, all is fake, reddit is just an AI that simulates all the accs, you are the only real user.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 02:47 AM
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very short answers, no more than 3-4 sentences, mostly flat tone If that worked like that I also would be someone's else alt? Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 02:27 AM
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You can't expect immediate objectivity from people with limited experience and analytical capacity. How do you even interact with people?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 09:33 PM
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When you are selecting for an LTR or an ONS, yes. For a FWB, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 09:30 PM
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They also have a higher potential to cheat, compared to non-sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 09:29 PM
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It is not spinning the little fact. 17 to 1 ratio persisted not for so long and before that (still before traditional marriage) a ratio was not that screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:59 PM
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Just find women who also don't want such men. It is easier to make such a woman than to find her, though. And to make women for yourself is what only geniuses of social interaction can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:55 PM
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The number of men these 5% young women are fucking actually is higher than the number of women those men are fucking. Let's put it this way. 5% of women fuck 4x/week or more. The men they fuck would on average fuck, let's say, 2x/week. So, 5% of the most promiscuous women fuck, let's say, 10% of the most promiscuous men. That is easily doable if you count prostitutes. Prostitutes fuck way more than their clients. But there are more men who pay for prostitutes than prostitutes themselves. As for …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 11:03 PM
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Yes, but ugly bitter people come off as assholes under the veil of anonimity and unreachability more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:51 PM
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Yes, that's why they are that way. Average people have to adapt and be more agreable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 12:40 PM
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Very attractive people can get along with being genitalia, and that's why there are many attractive dicks and cunts around. Like, ugly people will come off in the internet as assholes. Hot people will come off IRL as assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 12:23 PM
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$1, $1, $1, $1, $1.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:25 AM
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For 99% of sexless women: A sexless woman = a woman who can't get commitment from a guy she wants. Women who can't get commitment from men are talked about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:01 PM
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Because that is an obstacle on having their desires fulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 01:55 PM
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I think we actually agree. I meant a commader type woman who instead of just being supportive as most men like, instead requires a man to perform to 200% of his capabilities. Who will shout at him if he is just lying on a sofa watching TV. Who will call him lazy if he just opens a video game. Etc. Most men don't find that as adding happiness to their lives. Men are the chasers in relationships, and if they cannot even imagine themselves being a happy relationship with that woman, how are you goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 11:53 PM
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Yes, but you should understand why it is so. Because those men wanted it to be that way. They wanted to prohibit women from choosing alphas over betas by introducing capital punishment for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:31 PM
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TRP as the sub used to be TRP from the alpha side. I.e. TRP from the side of the guy who hooks up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:29 PM
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That's all being red pilled from the beta side, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 05:06 PM
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Not clear what kind of intimidation you are talking about. Men not dating women who are taller/making more money than them? It is being intimidated of the society, not a woman. They are afraid to be judged by strangers. Then, there is a rare case when a woman can be intimidating to a man. Like, he wants a relaxed life and a woman pushes him to be a hard achiever. But it is so rare, it does not make a lot of sense to discuss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 05:03 PM
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It's intimidating in the sense men are afraid to being have to put a lot of effort into the relationship. A woman who will henpeck him to put effort he is not happy to put.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:59 PM
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A bi woman does not act the same way to the woman she dates as she acts to the man she dates. Because she assumes that since they are both women, they are equal, but a man has to prove himself while she does not. So, dating women to you does not feel the same way it feels to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 10:27 AM
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Why would you love someone on the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 10:20 AM
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I mean, if he wanks to women more, he likes women more. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 10:17 AM
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I just wish every man would go gay or date men, instead of trying to lure and sleep and use and insult and bother women. I wish it too. The Earth is too sick of humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 10:14 AM
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That theory makes sense, when not misinterpreted. As some who lives in Russia today have read a quote (translation mine): "I am often asked when people will stop tolerating lowering wages and will overthrow the government. Never. They would rather kill and rob each other." Tbh, that explains the state of people without "great men" perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 10:57 PM
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Depends on persons. Not people, but persons. Quite like the USSR would not exist without Lenin.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 10:39 PM
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I mean, these women technically have become femcels. But players are not stopped by coronavirus. Instead of whining that coronavirus has made pussy inaccessible, they continue fucking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:27 PM
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Why do I care? Because I like reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 12:05 PM
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Again, most men would cut their nails, hence rejecting a man before a date is not rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:59 AM
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Yes, I just don't agree with nails scrabbing the vagina explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:54 AM
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It would make sense if most men with long nails did not cut them before dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:46 AM
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Not preferences. Explanations on why these preferences exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:44 AM
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No, I am not talking about that. I am talking that you tried to explain it in a rationalistic way and that was incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:41 AM
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Then the decision is not rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:36 AM
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Most women find out this is a problem, the hard way, when they are young. Okay, most dudes don't cut their nails before dates, is that what you are saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:34 AM
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Yes, but why should a man rely on what an individual woman likes? Idk why these posts are a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:32 AM
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You are saying you dislike long nails because they are bad for the vagina, but then reject him before he even can cut his nails.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:31 AM
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I am not upset, just telling not to rationalize.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:26 AM
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Yeah, that's the point. You are prejudiced like most women on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:22 AM
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Okay, let's say a man invites you for a date and has long nails. He can cut nails before a date. Do you think it is rare?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:20 AM
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Long clean nails also are a deal breaker, but it is not hygiene.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:17 AM
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Yeah, but I am pretty sure long nails thing is due to making a man feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:13 AM
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Okay, even short nails can have black stripes. So, what is the deal breaker, long nails or black stripes?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:12 AM
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I mean, incels whine constantly. You have not seen an increase or decrease in that whining since coronavirus changed nothing for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:12 AM
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I am talking about clean nails. It takes only soap to make them clean.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:05 AM
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That's an exceptional case.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:02 AM
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Well, most of that number is from morbidly obese and older people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 12:23 AM
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Okay, many times they are measured by waist line exactly at its narrowest (for fat people it is not, though). Idk why, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 12:05 AM
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Yeah, makes sense. I am not sure it is about poor hygiene exactly, though, unless his nails are dirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 08:33 PM
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I don't care about ethicality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:41 PM
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Pretty sure a man will cut his fingernails before a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:31 PM
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Physical prowess is by far not the most alpha trait. But really, our ancestors were not muscular. Ask Atlas for pics. Betaing exists for millenia, and the entire agrarian revolution was used by betas to increase their reproductive success.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:27 PM
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My guess is that women in America exceed their daily caloric norm by greater margin than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:25 PM
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Yeah, your explanation does not work, unfortunately. The result is not replicated in other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:22 PM
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Why is this trend noticeable only in the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:18 PM
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Because the US food-selling lords encourage people to be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:13 PM
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I don't see this here. Fat acceptance is instilled by women, men don't enforce it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:12 PM
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Apparently, only in America that water is wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:11 PM
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Uturuses like fat. And for whatever reason people say that estrogen causes fats to be stored at thighs, not belly. Anyway, that's a stupid justification if you compare America to Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:10 PM
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Jeans size is based by hips circumference, not waist circumference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:08 PM
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No, America has an average BMI of 38. Europe, Russia, etc. have average BMI of 26-28.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:05 PM
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The OP shows that women are fatter in bellies than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:26 PM
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Waist circumference is measured by belly button line.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:03 PM
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The same can be told to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:02 PM
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The OP says that women don't bother to be skinny too, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 11:04 AM
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It is said that men carry fat on waists. Beer guts are a male thing for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 11:03 AM
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You are thinking about a woman who has not so wide waist and carries fat on thighs. But OP says women actually carry much fat on waists I'm from Russia and it is becoming a problem, but not as much as in the US. I think it is more of a problem in rural areas and small towns.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 11:02 AM
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No seriously...why are they wider when they don't have a uturus? Men have bigger organs. So why are you even coming close to our weight? you can eat more. You have answered it yourself. Men have bigger stomachs. Then stop dating. Yeah, I wish there were more MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 10:52 AM
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Because an average person does not have a large expanding social circle. With that said, I don't think OLD is a viable strategy online. Cold approaching on social spaces is way better, because sex ratio is not screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 07:54 AM
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Most betas are not rich enough for golddiggers, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 07:49 AM
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Women choose Chad because he’s attractive A correction. He is so attractive that it even is reasonable to hookup with him to have a lottery chance of getting his commitment. Also, most women don't hookup much. So, every time a woman wants to hookup, there is one Chad who would hookup with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 05:37 PM
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My point is, women while engaging in it still don't engage in it that freely. They need some excuse. Usually that excuse is "he is Chad, a least I tried to get his commitment."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 05:30 PM
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The biggest source of shaming is parents (fathers in particular), though. Not even shaming, but "I hope you won't indulge in stupid hookup culture" attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 05:19 PM
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He is sexually attracted to her. But I am 95% sure not enough to marry her knowing she is a single mom. I mean, as much as you want to think men only think with dicks, it is not entirely true. With that said, I am not saying that does not happen (I said only 95%). But she must have a good enough personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 10:09 AM
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It absolutely is when thinking of proactivity-reactivity of men and women. Out of people who actively seek dates/sex, 80% will be men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 11:38 PM
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It would not exist. MGTOWs and FDSers not making the first move because the optimal individual strategy is to not be the first.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 07:03 PM
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Like what can you do except force women to have sex with men they aren’t attracted to? You misunderstand the problem. Women are attracted to men, just not enough to break social ties (at the risk of being called a whore and so on). The solution is to change the social narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 07:01 PM
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no self respecting woman is gonna sit there and read the endless “you wanna Netflix and chill this weekend??” messages With that said, there are quite many hedonistic girls. But they also don't go to OLD usually, girls get chatted up outside of OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 06:56 PM
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(A minority of) Women have high standards for thirsty men looking only for casual stuff. Because they can afford.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 06:52 PM
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That's the point. Most women get to dates or hookups without intending to date or hook up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 06:48 PM
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It explains 80/20. OTOH it itself can be a consequence of 80/20.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 06:46 PM
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We are in self-isolation mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 06:25 PM
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I would guess there is a connection between financial well-being and being blue pilled. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 06:25 PM
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Maybe not all Asians, but Chinese, Koreans and Japanese do. However, since dick size isn’t something that can just be shown to others to see, Asian men do get discriminated against because of the stereotype. That's my point. Even though an aberage Asian has a smaller dick, there are Asians with big dicks too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 06:24 PM
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An average American lives much better than an average Russian. And Russia is a second world country.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 06:22 PM
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girls from poor countries are good STEM Selection bias. Girls you see from poor countries are good STEM. Most are not good enough to get education abroad. That's like a hot girl saying that for a guy it's not hard to get casual sex because she has fucked 50 Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 12:45 PM
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True, but America pays better, that's why they migrate. Which tells enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 12:41 PM
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Hm, makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 11:15 AM
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Lots of undersexromanced women out there
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 11:03 AM
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I mean, if you live in a village, people there will not even understand FWB stuff, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 11:00 AM
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Is getting education abroad that easy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:59 AM
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Villagers can't move straight out from Russia. It is a multi-generational way from village to town, from town to city and if needed, from city to outside of Russia. Okay, rarely it can be done within a single generation, but it will take at least 20 years for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:58 AM
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Preparation for anal would be shaving the ass, cleaning it and lubing it. The first two don't require a man. I mean, the ass does not change during the arousal, unlike the vagina. As for choking, really, I did not think it is common before PPD brought this issue up. Choking really is rare in porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:52 AM
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Most porn just begins after foreplay happened, that does not mean pornstar sex lacks foreplay. Behind the scenes =/= non-existent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:49 AM
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I think outgoing people don't like marriages as much, and married people are not as outgoing. Pretty sure outgoingness is correlated with divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:47 AM
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I agree most women don't ride the CC. But most women surely have tried to hit higher than the guys they are with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:41 AM
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An average woman is mediocre (which still can make her desirable for sex to more attractive men) and she settles down with a mediocre average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:40 AM
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You must be kidding. As someone living in Russia, what you say applies to 90s in Russia, when factories and farms have been shut down. Now, looking at stats, America is producing tons of stuff. America is being #2 in milk production and #1 in ginseng production and so on. America has most scientists. Being in the top or close to it (per capita it would be in the top for sure) definitely does not signify decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:33 AM
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Not true. To just explain Smoogs' answer in layman terms, most women who sleep with Chads do so once or twice. They totally want commitment. However, most women that Chads are fucking are the ones hooking up consistently. That is, Chads' N counts come from women who don't chase commitment (duh). So, selection bias on your side.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:24 AM
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Remember, there still are 35.5% of women not wanting hookups to lead to romantic involvement. And I would bet these 35.5% of women have more hookups than those 64.5%.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:19 AM
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"You don't sound right, this must be enough to challenge your view."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:16 AM
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This is not the most alarming concern, actually. Far from that. These dudes will just do minimum labor. I doubt American economy will become a 2nd world economy. If it does, certainly not because of unsexed men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 08:59 AM
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Funny how a woman who is 1.5x more obese is his match.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 08:54 AM
2

What is radical now can be normal in the future and vice versa. This has happened thousands of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 08:53 AM
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Kindness is not gonna help initially. Almost 0 women looked at unattractive guy who just made a couple of nice remarks and wanted to fuck him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 08:40 AM
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And if every man wants it, many men are gonna feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 08:39 AM
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It's not easy to disprove the idea that a woman resists but still wants sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 08:35 AM
3

What makes you think so? There are red pilled cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 08:16 AM
0

In a few generations, RP knowledge will become mainstream. Sorry, man. The US ain't Eastern Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 08:15 AM
10

You forgot 80/20 in dating. This is not mainstream. And not sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 08:08 AM
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In my opinion, even if science came out proving it was 100% right, that should still be suppressed because system relies on the existence of the equality-idea. Asians have smaller dicks and it's not suppressed. I wonder if this (correct in general) stereotype makes them all less attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 07:56 AM
1

Two things are pretty similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 09:56 PM
1

I mean, shaming does not require fault. That's it, men being fuckboy-shamed simply because they decided she is not worth commitment happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 09:54 PM
1

Betas don't use the word "beta" when complaining about women not wanting to fuck them. Whores don't use the word "whore" when complaining about men not wanting to commit to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 09:53 PM
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I mean, these men lie to women they don't see as relationship material ("whore") to fuck them the same way women lie to men they don't hookup material (betas) to marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 09:45 PM
1

I mean, in mos cases they are correct, but they absolutely use it in a shaming way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 09:38 PM
1

'Wow babe you're so hot, come here and let me deepthroat that pretty face of yours.' is not really soliciting either. Harassment is something that can (but in most cases does not) lead to unwanted sex (rape). E.g. hitting on too strong, touching her, etc. when she does not want it is harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 09:37 PM
2

Hm, many women who get a mediocre romance don't realize men are not romantically attracted to them too, then. And that happens. That's why women accuse men in being fuckboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 09:33 PM
1

I am talking about the way the word used by women, not textbook definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 09:27 PM
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Not really. Betas don't know what it is like when a girl passionately takes his clothes off, does kinky stuff with him, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 09:27 PM
1

Except that stereotypes often are true for most people. Feminists want men to think that men-like women are common, and that's one lie they tell to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 09:14 PM
1

A 'fuckbi' is a man who uses subterfuge and duplicity to get into women's knickels. It entails lying and various underhand tactics. Usually, yes, but still it is a woman who decides if she feels like she was lied to or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 09:07 PM
1

Who knows, maybe only "right" animals should've had rights according to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 08:52 PM
1

Hm, in my language harassment is the same thing as soliciting. Surely, remarking that a woman is gross is not soliciting sex from her (except if that is a very shitty negging).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 08:50 PM
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But they don't pretend they do and they constantly say they don't. Neither do women pretend they feel sexually attracted to ugly nerds. Ugly nerds don't even know what it is like when a girl is into them, and they know it and whine about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 08:42 PM
1

To fuck men. The problem is, too few single women are really horny more often than once in a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 08:38 PM
1

Do they want only sex? Most guys who want just ONS have no problems with hookers, it's guys who want FWBs that can't rely on hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 08:36 PM
1

And most guys don't have swimmer bodies without lifting weights, they are too unmuscular, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 04:17 PM
2

It's women calling men fuckboys when they don't commit to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 03:43 PM
1

Mass propaganda applies to masses, not single individuals. I suspect that changing the narrative to that Asian or Hispanic men are hot would affect women. But fucking them out of political correctness? Sounds bullshit. And of course it is possible to manipulate people's behavior to a degree. To a pretty large degree as history tells.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 11:08 AM
1

So many people fucking love interviews, damn. I hate the whole thing, regardless of whether I am an interviewer or being interviewed, I just like to have a fun time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 11:03 AM
1

"Fuckboy" is absolutely a shaming term.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 09:58 AM
1

No, PUAs tell to come off as high RMV guys but it's women themselves who think that if a man acts like he is high RMV he will commit. Guys don't give promises about commiting. But, see, that thing is extremely dumb. Kinda like thinking that because a woman is hot, she will be more likely to fuck you. Which is false, unless you are Chad, maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 09:53 AM
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They are no different from those "How to become a millionaire" books authors. Be an author of such a book, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 09:44 AM
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Women did that, they just did not say they did. The same it is now, with the exception of a small fraction of women who openly tell they do it IRL. Of course nowadays with anonimity you can see women saying they have FWBs/ONS a lot more often. chicks that were doing that were considered sluts That's why there are slut walks?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 09:41 AM
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The advice would be to stop loving them, lol. To work on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 09:37 AM
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If he has options better than her, he is out of her league. And yeah, there are men who don't want to commit at all, but let's discuss general trends. Generally a man does not want to commit to a woman he feels is not close enough to the best he can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 09:34 AM
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You must be wrong. For younger married couples the above scenario does not apply. They were living together since college and she was not fucked by 3 men who used her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 09:31 AM
2

Depends on where you look at. Any OLD guide will tell that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 01:26 AM
2

Without bro part that advive still exists outside of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 01:24 AM
2

It is rare to find an advice to get leaner and more stylish? I can agree with you if you are talking about deeper RP stuff, like LMR, but surely not the basic one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 01:08 AM
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True, that's why I don't think it makes a lot of sense to point out that men and women are similar. It's the most intuitive approach, children think that other people are similar to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 01:58 PM
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In short, men and women still are more similar than different. We are similar by 45 chromosomes and differ only by 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 11:57 AM
5

Yeah, the question is if these the same women who ignored you have changed their opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 09:25 AM
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I wonder if the opposite happens. A girl rejected a guy for being fat/a loser, but he got attractive/successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 07:59 AM
1

Casual playing does not count for being a gamer, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 07:08 AM
2

FDS promotes improving yourself, but does not promote improving the life of a man a woman dates. Even if that man acts as an HVM. Until 3 months or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 05:33 PM
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Not only the man pays for dinner. She also never texts him first, she never does anything for him, etc. Until he offers her commitment. And even that after many dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 04:55 PM
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But FDS tells women to not act like an HVW until the man offers commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 04:46 PM
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That does not deny the fact that they expect men to assume they are high value women. Without them showing that before commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 04:12 PM
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Yeah, I just mean it is about the man, not his age.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 02:06 PM
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To me the average woman is an average woman among those living near (closest city and suburbs) me and being close enough to my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 02:01 PM
1

Learning more about your own sex breed resentment. Learning about the opposite sex actually does not. People just get angry when they read all those stories how their fellow bros/sisters struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 01:59 PM
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gonna want to play video games and surf porn True for many men in 40s and above too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 01:54 PM
1

The actually don't, but if they are here they are bored. And if they are bored here, they are gonna argue about topics they don't give a fuck IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 01:50 PM
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They talk about the value of a Live-in Maid, Home Chef, Sex Worker, Secretary, and Therapist combined And they say they are not gonna fulfil these roles. If a woman does, she is a pickme to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 01:48 PM
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Makes sense. But would you say fucking them without paying also is not impressive?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 10:31 PM
1

That's funny. Like they belong to a different race.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 10:24 PM
1

Yes, you just have to look at Russian sugar babies who aim for Western sugar daddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 10:22 PM
2

And usually also have very soft characters.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 10:10 PM
1

Some are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 10:04 PM
0

Do you really trust that 1.7M number? There were 300k subscribers about a year ago, a half of what r/UnpopularOpinion had. And quarantined state does not help to get subscribers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 10:04 PM
1

What if she is his sugar baby, lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 09:59 PM
3

I know one furry who has no problems with girls. He's tall, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 09:44 PM
1

Yeah, nah. You assume relationships are where a man puts all the effort. I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 07:13 PM
1

Because you just can't accept that some men are not like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 06:38 PM
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You need to prove that ALL men are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 06:20 PM
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The onus to prove it is on you, though, as that's you presenting the null hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 06:16 PM
1

No, some guys actually don't care. They don't have a cuck fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 06:12 PM
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I mean, these guys often don't plan for kids. Amd if they do, they still can use paternity tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 06:11 PM
1

Some guys don't care, stop thinking inside a box.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 06:06 PM
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Friends are not gonna hang out with you when you are telling kids a fairy tale. Anyway, it is about priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 05:05 PM
1

Sure, but a guy can want cohabitation and variety together.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 05:04 PM
1

Most of them do or at least plan to have a civil marriage. You think men commit for any other reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 04:48 PM
2

Then fucking with some dude also won't take precedence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 04:47 PM
1

Also most unmarried couples don't cohabit anyway For STRs that's true. Usually couples move in in a year or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 04:42 PM
1

A plate usually does not live with him. Remember, he still has to booty call a plate and it's not for sure that she will immediately be at his place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 03:07 PM
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Various parts of the world are always facimg condom shortage. I doubt the problem will affect WC+ Americans, and their other Western counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 01:40 PM
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I mean, an alpha can enjoy both a variety of women and benefits of relationships (a woman cooking and cleaning and emotionally supporting him and dual income and so on). And not give a fuck on her fucking someone else. But that only works in an arrangement where he does not spend more than he would if he lived alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:48 PM
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And what if in a normal relationship she also is spending time with her friends? See, it is not about openness of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:37 PM
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I dont think an alpha ( attractive and high quality man ) would really say yes to open relationship to fuck other women. Yeah, if he wanted sexual freedom, she'd be his FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:35 PM
1

The point is, it does not feel just like class. Poor people, and laborers, also can act in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:33 PM
1

Perhaps, but in Russia LMC is like top 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:30 PM
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No, not in high school, for sure. I think IQ is a big factor. We had that "I am a goddess" blonde crowd with large fake lips, who sounded like they have 60 IQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:25 PM
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I mean, I surely have seen pretty cashiers who don't feel that entitled to things. However I don't live in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:17 PM
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Based on the evidence that spousal conflict adversely influences physiology and health, with greater negative impact on wives compared to husbands This still implies husbands experience negativity. So, the true message should be not Marriage is MORE beneficial to men than to women But "Marriage is LESS detrimental to men than to women". Men suffer from loneliness more than women What does it mean? That men are more lonely and therefore suffer more from loneliness? Or that a lonely man has it wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 08:38 AM
2

because a lot of people use "I don't smoke" to virtue signal I don't care about virtue signalling to strangers, especially smokers, who don't value that trait. Many non-smokers here will be quick to tell you "smoking is bad for you" and suggest you quit. I don't hear that often. But from my observations women are told that more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 08:01 AM
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Not all women even read profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 05:43 AM
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Do they? If she has already rejected you, being polite won't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 05:22 AM
2

Is it just class divide? I think looks play a role in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 05:21 AM
2

Yeah, but still, they cost pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 05:19 AM
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People will say “I ran out” even if they’re holding a fresh pack in their hands. That's greed, not rudeness. And sometimes when being asked for smoke I tell I don't smoke just to avoid other questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 05:17 AM
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Not exactly the opposite. He would be glad to have a bossy hoe as his business partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 11:50 PM
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(not even considering that non-smoker would probably consider it very rude for a smoker to ask for a light.) I mean, asking is something like "don't you have a lighter?" which is hard to be rude of, isn't it? Idk, here in Russia it is completely normal to ask if someone has a smoke or a light. Non-smokers just tell they don't have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 11:38 PM
2

Escorts cost way more than FWBs, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 11:34 PM
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Must be why they can't stop whining about being victims of all potential relationships sex. FTFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 06:37 PM
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Sure. Just don't see how you supporting feminis is relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 06:13 PM
2

Feminism is silent on the topic, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 06:09 PM
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These are men who don't want relationships, obviously. Not the demographic you want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 06:01 PM
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But men don't like getting randomly approached by strangers asking them for things, either (ie when strangers ask them for money or cigarettes.) What about asking for help? To help carry bags, or asking how to get into a specific place? Or just to set their cigarette on fire? Also, very rarely I see anyone being rude when asked if they have a cigarette. Usually people just tell they don't if they don't want to give a cigerette.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 05:56 PM
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Feminism does not say women should settle for less than they themselves are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 05:51 PM
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Every man cares about personality for relationships. Not only about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 05:50 PM
1

That's because women don't want casual sex as much as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:04 PM
1

Sounds like madonna to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:02 PM
2

You have to roast her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:36 AM
1

This is how red pillers view nurture for sure. If a child is not like his/her parent, then it must be a neighbor, not upbringing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:30 AM
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You do on reddit. Redditors still are people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:09 AM
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Most men I've met who've approached me irl don't care. Now, this makes a lot more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 07:47 AM
2

Yeah, many of them don't want to fuck virgin men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 07:44 AM
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If you cant cum without being choked and sodomized by a baseball bat, I imagine sexual compatibility would be important. If its something small like “pull my hair” or “bite my ear”, I dont see how thats hard for anyone to accomplish. But women claim way too many men are into anal, and men claim way to many women are into BDSM.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 07:43 AM
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Generally I agree, but how do you know if a dude you had not fuck has a small dick? It is understandable to be deceitful towards strangers, but not so much to guys who you know well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 07:39 AM
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Exactly, I don't get how OP can be so ignorant about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 07:37 AM
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"Like trash" means they just reject you? Literally, only one girl was mean to me, and it's not even my height that made her mean to me. She just was telling me I am short to hurt me, but was not as mean to an even shorter guy, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 06:22 AM
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She is hot for black men. Not so much for others. I suspect a black woman could be hot for many white guys if her facial features and hair resembled that of white women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 06:20 AM
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Okay, men (and people in general) want truth to be told to them in a polite way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 06:16 AM
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That's not an insane thing, that's just being a height queen. When you said most women are like you, you surely were lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 05:42 AM
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They don't like to be told a thousandth time about their preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 05:19 AM
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as long as you can get sex easily whenever you want, you can conclude that most guys wanna fuck you. It takes only 1% of men wanting to fuck you to get sex easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 05:16 AM
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It's up to you to say how Again. Looks are proxy for genetic fitness (it's correlation with divergence, not actual causality). Breeding with ugly people has a high chamce of producing genetically unfit offsprings. In social animals genetically unfit offsprings not only have low chance of passing their own genes, they also are a bother for others. They reduce (not genetical) fitness of others as well. E.g. the whole tribe could be eaten by a bear because a dumb person managed to lead the bear to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 05:15 AM
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Actually, I did not claim anything here (only hypothesized). You thought I did, so that's why you should provide support for the argument. It makes no logical sense to make excuses for why women can't settle like men unless it directly effects you. No, I would rather be celibate than fuck fat or ugly chicks. You see, just because you would fuck any woman, does not mean every man is like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 11:26 PM
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That's obviously highly unusual and not at all the situation were talking about. Yes, eusociality is highly unusual. Some degree of sociality is pretty usual, though. Evolution tells you to breed. Not always. It also tells to protect your siblings, nephews, etc. I'm not going to do your work for you just to find another non sequitur like naked mole rats. If you did not came here to argue, good for you. Just find someone else. A lack of knowledge on the subject is not making an argument more cred…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 11:16 PM
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Better according to whom? Evolution. You can read selfish gene for understanding basics. It is not the most precise model, but is more precise than "every animal would kill his sibling to breed with their partner." At least not in any other species. This claim requires support. I'm asking you if you were ugly why would you morally try to sleep with a hot guy if you think your causing him a detriment and might doom his lineage to be ugly? Ugly people try to sleep with hot people. It is selfish. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:59 PM
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Clearly not if they are choosing to be celibate because they can't get a guy of x attractiveness. No, one thing is when all males around are ugly. Another thing when all attractive males just choose your sisters instead of you. In the first case it makes sense to breed, because there simply are no better strategies. In the second case it is better to let your sisters breed and then not produce an offspring who likely will be a bother for your nephews and will be unable to support themself. Becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:50 PM
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And you are ugly in this example, why do that to somebody if you think it's wrong? You are mistaken, my friend. It's not a moral argument. It is not wrong, it is just detrimental to breed with an ugly person. But evolution is about selfishness too. In almost other species mating is the number one goal for men and women. And sexlessness in those animals exists too. There are incels of almost all species. In the absence of options female animals will mate with any male of their species. Yeah, that…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:33 PM
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No it's better to just die yourself, never having mated, than to risk having an ugly baby, according to your logic Wrong. Mating with an ugly person = handicapping yourself. Regardless of how attractive you yourself are. Kinda like mating with people with heritable diseases. Or does this "logic" apply only to men? To both sexes. If I came on here and said "sterilize ugly women" would you agree with that? Not my message at all. Ugly people are allowed to try and mate with whoever they can. But if…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:18 PM
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On top of the fact that ugly women will likely produce ugly children, even if they find a hot guy. Depends. An ugly person can produce about average children if they find a right partner. So if it's better to be a dead end Than to mate with an ugly person, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:12 PM
1

Well, I really don't know. Russians have discovered femdom for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:10 PM
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As we see from that stat, people are much more likely to search sex with people of their own race and/or nationality (with some notable exceptions, like Saudi Arabs watching Japanese, this was unexpected, tbh porn stats there are quite irrelevant anyway). And there are many black and latino men in the US. As for femdom, Idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 07:19 PM
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It's interesting that it is a purely American trend. BTW, funny how femdom became a trend in Ukraine and Russia.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 06:53 PM
1

How would you know? Have you directly approached those who haven't approached first? NVM, you are not fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 06:45 PM
1

30 is obviously possible by trying to make Chad to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 06:44 PM
1

Depends on how high. 30 (which is pretty above average) is surely achievable with serial monogamy. For 100 the OP is true, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:41 PM
5

Attractive people are fucking each other. How surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:38 PM
3

Yeah, and only true sluts just have to admit they dislike bi men. I mean, they fuck high N dudes and DGAF about cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:35 PM
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How is it a truth? Say, 20% of their single male peers wants to fuck them, it's not every man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:32 PM
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Makes sense evolutionary, assuming attractiveness is a proxy for evolutionary important traits. I mean, better to just be a genetic end then to contribute to the end of your nephews on top of your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:30 PM
12

And here we are, with "small tits" being a popular category on pornhub.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:21 PM
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I mean, if they think it is a non-issue, it probably is not to them. Or are you gonna make ridiculous statements like "I know you are short, no way in the world you have fucked more than 20 girls. Or you must have paid to prostitutes, I know it."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:20 PM
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2015. The mean and median number of sex partners for men of different heights were: very short (9.4; 5), short (11.0; 7), average (11.7; 7), tall (12.0; 7), very tall (12.1; 7), and extremely tall (12.3; 7). As you see, height is not a huge factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:13 PM
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"Male feminist, until you get married divorced are straight." FTFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 09:46 AM
2

It is a cultural construct that made men who hold it pass genes more efficiently.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 09:13 AM
1

I don't think anybody denies that patriarchy gave men advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 08:22 AM
2

This is not just daughter sexuality, though. The whole social narrative affects the society as a whole. And slut-shaming is remnants of that narrative, where not only daugters were slut shamed, and not only by their fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 08:21 AM
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And because evolution is about selfishness. Passing your own genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 08:19 AM
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Well, makes sense. Perhaps these rare women are the counterpart of short men. How do I know they are rare? There are populations where few young people are fat, and it is not 3rd world countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 07:35 AM
1

There are ways to fix hormonal disbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 06:59 AM
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They are all filled with people who have been deeply hurt by experiences with the opposite sex. Those painful feelings can be extremely difficult to overcome. Staying around those communities tends to cause one to commiserate and relive those feelings repeatedly. Except some SJWs. They are in that crowd just because that's the only way they can use their "niceness" to feel valued by someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 06:46 AM
0

it's hypocritical if you do, and therefore you shouldn't because it will make your dating life suffer. Non sequitur. Moral arguments are moral because they are impractical. Practical arguments are head above moral arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:42 AM
1

But there is no correlation between height and N counts except for very short guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:23 AM
2

Will any kind of woman ever experience what a short man does? TBH, even a fat woman won't experience that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 09:00 PM
2

Ability to get attractive also is factored in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 08:55 PM
2

Eh, so what? We are not talking about pussies here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 08:53 PM
3

Who cares, we are not talking about your pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 08:47 PM
3

Well, I don't care if your opinion is popular or not, I think most people don't deny that a fat woman is at fault for being fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 08:46 PM
2

Lmao, maybe you mean very short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 08:43 PM
2

Eh, you seem like you would not even accept a short guy just to hang out, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 08:40 PM
2

IME most women don't dislike short men in the sense you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 08:38 PM
2

I mean, you just dislike short guys. We already know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 08:34 PM
2

Could also say fat women are an equivalent to farts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 08:25 PM
2

And?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 08:15 PM
2

See edit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:40 PM
2

Even half-sisters? Anyway, this assumption relies on the idea that 50-75% of children men care about (that they think are theirs) are not theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:39 PM
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No, I ask if that feature specifically makes women wetter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:38 PM
2

Does it make women wet, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:37 PM
2

Oh, and seeing a man cuddling a puppy makes a woman wet?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:34 PM
1

That's true. Height is far not the most important factor. Less important than being fit or having a good face and style. With the exception of "not shorter than me" rule, but most men are taller than most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:31 PM
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The problem with that is that such a pill would not work immeditately. You'd need to use it for about a month regularly to just make it work. And then all of them rely on lowering testosterone levels, to my knowledge. For a comparison, female pills don't rely on lowering estrogene levels, they rely on progesterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:01 PM
3

Some traits are AMALT/AWALT. Some are "not all men/women."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 05:26 PM
2

He tries to better himself, he's learning, growing, has insecurities, is loyal and non-judgemental. Are you telling me you were wet for men's insecurities?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 05:25 PM
1

TRP is a crowd of blue pilled men now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 05:12 PM
1

Yeah, nah, women from other countries came to RPW too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 05:05 PM
1

I mean, you don't live abroad, so you don't see these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 04:57 PM
8

Are you kidding? A fat woman is voluntarily unattractive, a short man is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 04:54 PM
3

And there are like 0.1% of women who are that tall? 1:20, a nice ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 04:50 PM
1

"gym+eating healthy+style+going out=pussy" +approaching. Yes, you still have to initiate, unless you are very hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 12:36 PM
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Fat women can stop being fat, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 12:33 PM
6

Even a tall woman has a crowd of tall men who are ready to date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 12:32 PM
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Women with very rectangular shapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 12:31 PM
2

loooool they exist? i almost never see any irl. Foreign nerd women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 12:29 PM
3

Average Frustrated Chump. Now he apparently is above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 12:19 PM
1

I believe in Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, look liek real persons to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 10:42 AM
1

At least your dick becomes big brown cock.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 11:28 PM
1

Maybe if you were flexible enough, you'd date women who don't care that much about height?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 11:04 PM
1

Hung up on feminine personality though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 11:01 PM
2

For those who are not actually ugly, sometimes it does. For those who are very beautiful it does not make a noticable difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 10:09 PM
1

Depends on what you mean by "love." Have it affected my views? It taught me to not place emotions above reason (desires are neither).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 10:08 PM
1

Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 10:05 PM
1

Yes, there is. But does it always have to remain the middle ground? That's what I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 07:53 PM
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Never said she does.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 07:52 PM
1

Yes, that's what she feels to that guy before knowing that he has a cool or terrible personality, for exanmple.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 07:42 PM
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But when the father gives approval, she is unmarried.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 07:33 PM
1

Ghost back! Cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 07:30 PM
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I have never ever met a guy who thought looks don't matter. When we were in the fucking first grade, we measured who is taller. We also did not like being fat, and that's before we even cared about sex. Hell, no one on reddit reports their actual dick size, they all overreport. They must be aware that a big dick is better than a small dick. The guys you are talking about must be so rare that practically there is no point to talk about them. I doubt there is a single PPD'er like that. Now, most o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 07:16 PM
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RP is men talking circlejerking to men Really, they are like FDS, "it's not you, it's them." Not what TRP used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 07:11 PM
1

Sure, I meant a man has to be attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 07:08 PM
1

There is advice that works only in individualist cultures (which is not just America, I suppose at least a billion of people on the Earth is about that much individualist). And there is advice that does not rely on individualism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 07:07 PM
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Raping would happen after marriage. The point is, married women could only be fucked by their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 07:04 PM
1

Maybe it's America-centric, but the only differece from where I live is SJW-culture and higher quality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 07:02 PM
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Like in medieval Europe? Fathers surely decided whom their daughters have sexual life, and once he gave his permission, after the ceremony she had to fuck the man who got that permission. I.e. that's the whole reason feminists wanted marital rape to be recognized by laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 04:00 PM
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As long as he looks only for sex, he prefers cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 03:58 PM
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Then I must be REALLY hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:46 PM
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Different strokes, different folks. A lot of women hookup in the clubs specifically because men seduce them, which includes being arrogant to a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:45 PM
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For the second point, assuming the guy is neither ugly nor very handsome, a woman knowing man's personality can affect what she thinks of him, does not it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:12 PM
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I pity men who are that dumb. If I am horny, does not mean I lose my ability to reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:09 PM
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You are strawmaning. Just because women are fucking only Chads (and that's false) does not mean people who suppor this state of things are using nature as an ideal to strive toward. These women still fuck guys who became Chads due to surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:07 PM
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No one gives a shit what's better for society If so, men would be ok with men raping unmarried women. As long as their fathers approve it. TBH, it was so in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:00 PM
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This is why 80% of men are below average to women, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:58 PM
1

Yes, but these women like stuff like that. They get wet from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:48 PM
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Men ? Yes lol. That's what I meant by conquering. Flirting, touching her, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:27 PM
1

They still try to "push" them into sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 12:19 PM
1

I mean, I am not really hated by everyone, I just mean that even those who hate me don't necessarily cross me out of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 12:13 PM
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Do I achieve that? Not sure. But many people act like they hate me and yet don't stop contacting me. So, apparently yes. TBH, TRP alpha male is the one like heroin for women. He mistreats her but she still returns and returns.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 11:30 AM
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I don't care about being a high value person. I want to be like heroin: addicitve even if people hate me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 11:12 AM
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Most women who have "high N" (maybe 15-40 range) counts just like feeling conquered by a man they find good enough. However, most very high N (40+ range) counts women simply like sex and variety. They have sexuality and ease of access to sex of gay men. Excluding whores, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 11:06 AM
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Most women who have high N counts just like feeling conquered by a man they find good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 11:03 AM
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Top level comment. Can't quote, mobile reddit sucks a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 10:08 AM
1

Sure, but the current nurture is only one of the allowed states.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 10:04 AM
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It was not her saying something, I have been friends with her for a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 10:36 PM
1

Ok, masculine guys just get more success with OLD, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 10:25 PM
1

Well, I were an idiot. Not really, though, because I knew well she did not want to get pregnant without a man who wamts to be a dad of her kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 10:11 PM
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A lot of women are not reasonable. But you can't tell it just after getting acquainted with them. They still are pretty good in covering their unreasonableness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 10:06 PM
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Okay, I don't see any reason to convince you otherwise. Just doubt your attempt to change OP's view will be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 09:44 PM
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I mean, it is not brave, but it surely is not the MOST cowardly act possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 09:41 PM
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The most cowardly act is to sit in your basement in fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 09:35 PM
6

Killing sprees and mass shootings surely are not merely pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 09:29 PM
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Masculine guys are invited to parties by guys too. Also, what feminine activities are you talking about? Guys are not taking manicure courses, even feminine ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 09:28 PM
2

The female chimps longs for the alpha They long for an alpha, then another alpha, then another alpha. And what makes a chimp alpha is big balls. Literally. You are looking at this like people have always lived in nuclear families where children were raised only by their own mothers and grandmothers. Not the case at all, unmotherly women managed to give birth and their children were raised by other tribes(wo)men. The same for men, those who were cold and arrogant could get sex, cum inside a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 09:26 PM
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But that's what OP believes. Fear-inducing = respected to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 09:16 PM
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Actually, it is just about options. A woman who lives in a paradise where all men are billionaire Chads would think women (living outside of that paradise) who settle for poor Chads are desperate or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 09:11 PM
1

Your anecdote is more valuable than a scientific article?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 09:08 PM
1

That feminine guys are around lots of women is not exactly true. What about feminine shy introverted guys? They are not getting invited to parties or other stuff much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 09:07 PM
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That too. You think feminine spergy guys are doing well? Feminine dudes also can be ugly, BTW.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 07:17 PM
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I mean, gymcels are muscular dudes with ugly faces. So what, they still do better than when they were slim/fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 07:14 PM
2

It must be something about your tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 07:04 PM
1

Love that exists withoit conditions. Nothing exists without conditions at all, therefore such a love is not a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 07:03 PM
2

It is rare to get mires from hot women when you are a man. Regardless of what type of a man you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:52 PM
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So, you had a plenty of time to care about them? But okay, men don't care about home cleanliness as much as women. That's how you got more time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:50 PM
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Do they post the women they are sleeping with?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:50 PM
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They identified themselves as heterosexual, though. they're also likely to be unattractive The linked article tells nothing about it. I agree on unfeminine part, though, when it comes to personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:49 PM
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if you peel back the layers on their new found "success", it's always fatties or similar. I am not even sure these dudes actually have 6 packs. Rather, they are "buff overweight" types with beer guts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:47 PM
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"Nature" alone is just a like a design project. The finished product can be drastically different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:34 PM
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It certainly is not that easy as you make it sound. Some stuff is boiling in the kitchen, she washes the floor, the kid annoys her and she swears at him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:04 PM
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Well, it is true. The only women who want such men are a minority of bisexual women within the female bisexual demographic. Wrong. Women like that are about 10% of women, approximately.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:56 PM
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Its like the idea that humans arent animals. I mean, animals of other species just look the same to us. All domestic cats look the same besides size and fur. All cows look the same besides color. All macaques look the same. If they look all the same, how can the variation in preferences appear? Now think about it. If femboy meant incel evolutionary, how the fuck there are so many femboys?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:45 PM
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Now, I will call BS on that. Most people are not dominant. And women too. As for preferences, most women prefer muscular dudes, papers have shown it. Women who are into femboys surely are a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:41 PM
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You are very much a statistical outlier. Most women do not prefer "nerdy men shorter than 5'10 with shy personalities." TBH, women who are into femboys are not that rare. It is almost a dichotomy. Women are either into femboys or Chad. Women who see short narrow men with square jaws or tall broad men with feminine faces as their ideals are the true outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:37 PM
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That's how women work: when there are fewer men, women are more willing to hookup and more men get hookups (despite the intuition telling you fewer men = fewer Chads).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:34 PM
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They are not rich. Maybe women just don't need literal Chads for hookups? That's what I noticed, when women just want hookups they just go for the best guy who approaches them. If Chad does not approach her, she goes for Brad or whoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:23 PM
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Life Anecdotes. I don’t give a fuck about rollo FTFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:09 PM
1

You think he was immature? Let's not redefine words here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:06 PM
1

What data? Rollo's?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:50 PM
1

Okay, can these women afford to work part time? They have to both work, perform house chores and care about children.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:46 PM
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It is. Mature men solve problems. Even if that makes you feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:40 PM
1

Well, for Germany it would feel good if they won, right? It all is about subjectivity of values.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:37 PM
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This is what BP and Rollo made you believe. Women care about looks and wrinkles too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:35 PM
1

If it solves a problem that is worse than a death of a few people, it is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:34 PM
1

He says statistically. In America girls'-women's BMIs/BF% are positively correlated with their ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:33 PM
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It could make a difference, depending on the method of research.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:32 PM
3

It is statistical error coming from factors besides age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:29 PM
1

Any stats to back it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:27 PM
1

Sure, men are not being masculine, so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:27 PM
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I like some traits of my mom. Some I dislike. I doubt men actually are most attracted to the closest incarnations of their moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:26 PM
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More money are more money. People's lust for money is insatiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:23 PM
1

But "Man up" often is used in exactly that case. When a man is bitching and being too fatalistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:22 PM
1

Okay, maybe in your neighborhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:19 PM
2

Not only that, but also solving problems instrad of complaining about them. Too bad women instead of encouraging each other to be mature just circlejerk with emotional support.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:19 PM
1

That's closer to UC.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:12 PM
1

I mean, some traits surely are both masculine and mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:11 PM
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I don't know in what universe. That's totally not the main trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:11 PM
1

There is a correlation between maturity and masculinity for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:04 PM
1

Nah, what you call sexual actually is romantic. Sexual love is a misnomer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:01 PM
1

Technically, there is no sexual love at all. "I like fucking my fuckbuddies" has nothing to do with love.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 03:58 PM
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Okay, poor single moms would rather call their children shits than coddle them. They got no time for coddling.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 03:53 PM
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Eh, UMC (those who were born by UMC moms) guys mostly are pussies, regardless if they were raised by single mothers or two parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 03:52 PM
1

Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 03:49 PM
2

You can think this, but in the reality most women do not cheat on their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 11:12 AM
3

Just because a woman is not attracted to you, does not mean she thinks you are less than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 11:12 AM
2

Who cares if they find her attractive if she does not find them better than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 10:38 AM
2

"Faulty" is not a correct word. And not sure on 1000x easier part. Depends on your personality too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 10:38 AM
1

And even besides that, you spend a few hours together every day, you also spend weekends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 08:29 AM
3

Vetting is not that easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 08:28 AM
2

It is an illusion because a man also can approach a lot of women and that will give him options. But it time consuming, admittedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 08:23 AM
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It is an illusion caused by the fact a man has to approach. Hundreds of men will approach a woman. Thousands will not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 08:16 AM
1

They go to office parties. Still she spends less time there than with you. They have coffee with these guys. Sometimes they do, sometimes not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 08:15 AM
2

Nobody said it is easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 08:14 AM
1

Anyway, in an average office a woman is in a close proximity (neighboring tables) in maybe with 3 men. Not a high chance that one of only three men is better than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 07:53 AM
2

I mean, they do not approach that much. To gather a statistic, you need to approach a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 07:51 AM
2

Assuming they don't have separate rooms or walls between tables.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 07:47 AM
2

And hundreds of women would date an average man. Thousands would not, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 07:45 AM
2

Well, maybe you are better than all dudes from her job. There are not many of them, in a large office she just sees them and knows nothing about their personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:49 AM
2

The average woman has hundreds of options. How many of those options wants to commit to her, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:15 AM
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Not MRA. MGTOW. MRAs actually focus on legal aspects and while there is an overlap between MRA and MGTOW, you don't have to believe all women are whores and golddiggers to be a MRA.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:14 AM
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Almost every woman has better options. But she got no time to seek and vet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:00 AM
1

Yeah, but you said they are repulsed with buff men. Which is what I argued against.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:55 AM
1

I doubt it. In Russia top 20% of men are not Chads. Still get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:33 PM
4

Yet again "men are desperate and women are dumb" post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 09:41 PM
1

So, what is your argument? If all men were Chads, the world would not be a fucking fuckfest. Oh, and yeah, average faces are not sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 09:34 PM
1

It is not about lying. It is about self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 09:29 PM
1

Okay, it is relying on what people think they know about themselves. I mean studies examining how women actually rated men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 09:27 PM
1

Female body? We were talking about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 09:22 PM
2

Submissive women are not my type anyway. Just was fascinated that they can be very horny by themselves (I mean female sexuality is mostly reactive).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 09:18 PM
1

Okay, your argument is wrong. Men are not buff not because they dislike buffness. But because they are lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 09:14 PM
1

Not true. Even when comparing to muscular men. Face was the most important. More important than muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 08:40 PM
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I am interested because that helps me to understand what kinds of women I am likely to attract. However, I doubt there is a direct correlation between submissiveness and sex drive, daddy issues is a separate variable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 08:32 PM
2

How many women do you see with model looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 08:26 PM
2

Are you trying to challenge OP's view?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 08:25 PM
10

Because the OP is about RP men. Not about TBP subscribers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 08:23 PM
1

I didn't mean only casual sex. I mean, how soon will they register on OLD or whatever after a breakup.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 08:20 PM
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Interesting. But do these women purposefully look for men to fuck when they are single?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 08:05 PM
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If she has a good butt, I can feel uncomfortable if the dick is stuck in a bad position.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 07:50 PM
1

Hm, interesting. And they are submissive in bed too?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 07:48 PM
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Face is the most important part of looks for most women, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 07:39 PM
1

They have a pretty high sex drive. Do they even initiate sex? Otherwise their sex drive is just paralleling yours, they are too submissive to reject your sexual advances.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:33 PM
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I mean, a confident ugly guy who is very high EQ (and the same IQ, let's say) will struggle less.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:30 PM
2

Oh, but the OP was claiming 80% of guys are unattractive to women. What were you arguing, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:29 PM
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That's a dude. personality is what matters It actually is. But it is stuff like being seductive, assertive, etc. Not being a niceguy. Also, he told that status is a factor. Do you disagree with that? Women swoon over Adam Driver like he is a 9, while objectively his face is somewhere in 4-6 range. If it was that simple there would be way less incels. It is not simple, lol. It is extremely hard to get high status. Much harder than to become fit and muscular. It also is very hard to become asserti…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:28 PM
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Not actually dominant (I am quite in the middle between submissiveness and dominance, which still probably makes me less submissive than most men), not obsessed with getting laid. Not something I fake as well. Enough women are OK with me not being dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:19 PM
2

Confidence is not everything. A confident ugly autist still will struggle a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:16 PM
1

Men are fetishizing buff men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:14 PM
2

But they will act luke the dude is 8. Even if they understand in looks he is 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:12 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:11 PM
3

He does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:10 PM
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complain about getting hit on by fat chicks. Meh, fat chicks also don't hit on men often. They don't hit on Chad because they are sure they will be rejected. They don't hit on fat guys because fat guys already hit on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:08 PM
2

Okay, so you think 80% of men are ugly. I think this the end of the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 05:51 PM
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Sure, every encounter can lead to pregnancy if you don't have vasectomy. Also, I was not talking about myself. Just that some dudes did that. Sometimes women don't even know who's the father. Consequences of sexual promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 05:49 PM
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women would fuck anything if they can't get a job. Love affairs are about being a mistress, not a wife. It's because you all are uggos who don't put effort into your appearences. So, women just choose uggos for relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 04:16 PM
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I was talkin about "they met in a night club, fucked and never met again" stuff. But these women usually abort.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 03:54 PM
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But love affairs still existed. The point is, quite attractive (~7/10) men are not desired for casual sex because women have a plenty of 8+/10 men to fuck with. Because there are way more men than women in casual SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 03:41 PM
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Ok, what about medieval age? Men definitely did not look hotter there. Damaged by diseases and poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 02:56 PM
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Not in a big city. You can have to check thousands and thousands of profiles. Assuming she does not have a pic of you. Yeah, that totally cancels OLD as a method. Or you can use a fake pic and name in social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 02:50 PM
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Eh, not sure that's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 02:48 PM
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Definitely not as muscular as gym guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 02:47 PM
3

You are a person for whom "Ignorance is bliss" is a correct statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:26 PM
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Not in a way described in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:25 PM
0

The point is, gays have become very different than they were a century ago. Due to changes in culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:22 PM
2

Hunter gatherers actually were underfed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:21 PM
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There is a percentage of women who are polygamous. And the culture surely tries to inhibit anything that is not mainstream nature. It tried to inhibit gays, racial minorities, etc. Despite race and homosexuality being natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:18 PM
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Huh? Terrorism always existed. Bombs are new, but murders are old. Actually, ME became more liberal in some parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:14 PM
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And eventually they end up in relationships. Not with Chads, mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:12 PM
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I mean, you can change the social narrative. That is a part of nurture.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:10 PM
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A considerable percentage of women always was like that. They just had to settle for relationships before casual sex got accepted. It is a minority of women, though. Around 20%. And not all of them are truly liberated yet. They still can't just find someone else to sit with their babies, while they are making money for living. That, WHILE doing casual sex, nearly impossible. Sure, sex is easy for them, but the more of them there are, the easier sex is for men who look for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:09 PM
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I doubt anyone here is to change society. PPD is not a place where you can change society. It is a small community.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:00 PM
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You can change human nurture, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 11:59 AM
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If chads were rare then how come we have chad now. Good nutrition and medicine. Girls are given lots of options. They are approached a lot. The outgoing ones, yes. There was a rise in girls who are not outgoing. I’m saying they’re complaining about not being able to find a man for a relationship. Yes, and that means a decent man. They don't look to commit to a first guy they see.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 11:56 AM
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They did not work out religiously, they just did physical labor. And TBH, it is not as efficient as a gym, you won't have a great 6 pack just from working in the fields or in a factory. Also, you were talking about boys, muscless are not really developed by that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 11:55 AM
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An unapproached woman would rather looksmax than approach a guy, she does not have balls. An unapproached man would rather approach than looksmax, he got no time for that painstaking stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 11:51 AM
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Are you telling me the majority of young men have fantastic muscular bodies? They did not have such bodies in the past too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 11:44 AM
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The trend exists outside of the US where men generally are fitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 11:44 AM
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A narrow face can just signalize being tall. Actually, babies have wide faces. And Asians. They must all be high T.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 11:40 AM
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BTW, my auction point is that a lot of women just go for the best they can get. I mean, you can like sausages A and B and find both tasty. But A still are tastier and cost the same so you buy them, and not B. That's how women in casual sex feel for a lot guys. A lot of guys are B sausages to them. Now, if more women wanted casual sex, shelves with sausages A would be empty more often. And sausages B would be bought more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 11:36 AM
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They were very rare and were rich dudes. Poor women fucked poor men and they looked bad due to diseases and famines. Most girls are reactive. They just are not hitted on by enough men. They don't do OLD because they don't look for men (because they are reactive, they have to be pushed there by someone). They don't go outside as much as before with the internet. Oh, they can't find a partner who suits their standards. Of course they can just go OLD and pick the first dude, but that's now what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 11:33 AM
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If no one was chad, these girls WOULD be sexless. C'mon, in medieval times Chads were basically non-existent. Casanova was not Chad in looks but women still fucked him. Then, Beckies also understand they can't get Chad for commitment. So they aim for lower. Including the ones who never have done casual sex. But if they really were not attracted to a guy, they would rather be single than have relationships with him (except for gold diggers). I mean, the effects of sex ratio are scientifically evi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 11:11 AM
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It could be one guy fucking multiple girls too. Also, women don't just wait for only Chad. I mean, they do as long as they are sure they can pull Chad. If no one was Chad, these girls would not be sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:54 AM
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Nah, most women just dislike casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:47 AM
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Fat women sleep with average dudes all the time. I mean, nobody except deluded incels thinks that you can't get high N just by aiming for chicks at the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:40 AM
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No, they don't find 80% of men (in their age group in their proximity) unattractive currently as well. Most of these dudes are just not attractive enough for casual sex. I mean, that shit is like an auction. If participants are poor, only a percentage of them gets the lot. If participants are rich, only a percentage of them gets the lot. It is not about how rich participants are, it is about how many lots and participants there are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:34 AM
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Don't see where you two disagree. She said older virgin men are not desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:31 AM
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Men are not terrified of that for casual sex. In LTRs I guess they feel too unchadly if they can't keep up with the woman. That "N count lower than mine" BS is as stupid as "he must be taller than me."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:29 AM
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What if she tells you that on her death bed (assuming she dies earlier, duh)?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:27 AM
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Not sure. The amount of women who feel "condoms do not feel good and pills are screwing me up, let you jsut pull out" is pretty large.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:25 AM
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It works for ONS. As long as she does not know where you live.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:23 AM
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Not actually worried. Yeah, shit happens. Not that often, though. And there are ways to minimize that risk. You should vet your FWBs too. The less motherly she is, the more likely she is to abort. So, if she is motherly, just stop things with her, let her find LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:21 AM
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ruin the kid's life because his father won't love him This probably is the only valid point. Everything else is true for almost all relationships as well, because most men are not willing to be SAHDs. Also, adoption is an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:18 AM
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Only when it benefits her. Then you tell her about men being expected to be breadwinners and so on and she claims she is not a feminist. She thinks men should be breadwinners and holds some other traditional ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 09:00 AM
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And maybe some guys secretly fuck multiple girls under the disguise of commitment. The post is about virgins specifically and I don't understand that. I mean, all dudes already knew it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:06 AM
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No, everybody knew women like tall handsome, assertive jocks or something like that. What they claim they were unaware of the extent for that preference. Personally, I knew that truth for long ago. I mean, if a girl said she'd fuck me, it meant quite a lot to me when I was 11-13.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:46 AM
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built like a house Oh, a log over a log.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:39 AM
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“I would totally date the short attractive one, but it just so happens that my boyfriend right now is homely handsome and tall”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:37 AM
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Damn, men who don't like women taller than themselves are causing problems for men who like women taller than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:37 AM
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She told multiple times she is not a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 11:55 PM
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I don't see how complaints about the manosphere are related to women being treated badly outside of the West, Japan and Northern Korea.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 11:54 PM
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Most women don't have much casual sex anyway. Often they lose virginity in a first relationship in high school. Adult women almost never are virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:56 PM
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Then they would have to be called bloops.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:55 PM
1

The question is if these downsides are worse than upsides.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:27 PM
2

And red pillers too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:11 PM
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videogames If only this made you hotter to women. But who knows, maybe those guys from OG are balls deep in pussy without having to beta bux for girls. My immune system is really good , I've never been sick before . /doubt I mean, everyone was sick, especially during childhood. Unless they were isolated in a bubble, maybe. Now, I guess with all these good sides, what makes you participating in inceldom is lack of assertiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:07 PM
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Meh, no casual sex =/= no non-marital sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:00 PM
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She means in the current environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:54 PM
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Elites are not generally woke. Some are. Some are like Trump, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:27 PM
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Yeah, but these women never were silent about wanting Chad's dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:25 PM
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also the reason we get the lions share of autoimmune disorders Do women also have allergy more often?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:18 PM
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Where did you pull this fact from I wonder. Just saw one thread in r/AskFeminists. Sure, I can't tell what percentage of feminists is like that, but it is above 0. Give me a defintion of toxically masculine trait. Never showing sadness after facing difficulties and failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:04 PM
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Cool. Now go off if you have nothing to contribute with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 05:10 PM
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I explained what I meant by that, and you missed that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:45 PM
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Strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:04 PM
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So you think women are asking for it? Subconsciously they surely do. Like, you know, a lot of feminists even admit they are attracted to men with toxically masculine traits and can do nothing with it. Despite wanting to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 03:52 PM
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Yes, the first paragraph was not serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 02:53 PM
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время шалость Интернет с моей спермы That sentence does not make any sense. Rus, is this you? Stuff like that was a popular meme in Russia a few years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 12:26 PM
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Zombie virus will must be at least almost as contagious as measles to be dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 09:48 AM
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Damn, at most I only forgot about cum stain and it has been covered with mold.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 09:29 AM
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It's cum mixed with and egg.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 09:27 AM
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No. The same reason. Shitty character and inflated egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 09:19 AM
1

How is this related to the topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 09:19 AM
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A lot of women are asexual in that regard. They have a button that has to be pressed in order to make them horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:50 AM
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I’ve never felt the need to masturbate. Of course, you always had an option to hookup in an hour of you wanted. But seriously, men just feel an urge to orgasm, like they have an urge to piss, that's why they jerk. Women usually don't have that urge, that sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:47 AM
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But a lot of men don't share your sentiment, that's what this thread is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:45 AM
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They should divorce. The end. Would be so fun to see all religious people not able to sustain marriage. We'd see an uprise of christcels, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:54 AM
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Yes, people change, young women change to old women too, which implkes young women should not be married due to youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:47 AM
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Everyone has a "right" (quotes because the idea of rights is useless to me) to be upset, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:46 AM
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Probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:31 AM
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You dont marry someone for how they are Arguing against yourself here, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:30 AM
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Check out FDS and you will see that problem is not specific for women over 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:29 AM
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Yeah, but surely not that kind of effort you suggested. Not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:22 AM
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Well, I certainly know that both my crushes have become crushes only when I have seen their characters. They were confident. TBH, guys flock around these girls, they surely like them more as a company, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:21 AM
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Anything that proves woman desire polyandry Ah, if only. Would make casual sex easier to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 11:10 PM
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And a lot of guys want sex without BF title. Which is where the entry threshold is high.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 10:45 PM
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Unless she has baby rabbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 10:42 PM
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Nah, a lot of self-aware dudes over reddit will tell you confidence is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 10:26 PM
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Granted, I don't believe they have 'pickme' girlfriends or wives themselves. Except R_R.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 10:22 PM
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Lol, you just made all that stuff up for lulz.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 10:21 PM
1

Mine is white and does not make me bleed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 10:17 PM
1

Why can`t men adn women be equal in this aspect? Because the society wants men and women to wear different stuff. So that it is easier to tell who has a dick and who has a cunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 10:12 PM
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Chocolate for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 10:10 PM
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soap (also not for incels) Lmao, most incels are not that bad with hygiene. Anyway, how are razors, soap, shampoo, aspirin(!), etc. feminine?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 10:09 PM
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Yeah, there are more heartless women than completely dumb women. And if you don't feel bad for a person with diarrhea, you are heartless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 10:02 PM
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It assumes men whom she did not fuck never existed for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:59 PM
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My point is if they truly weren’t fine with it they’d marry. A lot do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:57 PM
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Sex feels good, when it is with an attractive woman who wants sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:56 PM
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Yeah, that is too much effort, TBH. Anyway, my point was that a lot of women are unfuckable to me. Even when I am drunk. TBH beer goggles are non-existent for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 06:40 PM
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I mean, a lot of times women have that conscience. But the woman he got probably is dark triad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 06:12 PM
1

In the businesd world everything is on papers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 06:09 PM
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But I dislike that idea more than being celibate. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 06:08 PM
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That's what OP is about. That due to social normative pressure many women are not fine with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 12:29 PM
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Well, many guys believe in covert contracts: "I do a good thing to you, you do a good thing to me."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 12:24 PM
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They think women have conscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 05:13 AM
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No, she said could have given birth to a guy. And some girls could get pregnant at 5-6. Rare but still true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 05:13 AM
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Yeah, I just dislike the idea of sticking a dick into fat and ugly women. Can do nothing with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 05:12 AM
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if I could have given birth to the guy For some women it can be 6 year difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 02:19 PM
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A fleshlight does not produce disgust when you think about touching it. I mean, in unattractice women it is not even tjeir vagina that is unattractive. It is their face and/or body.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 09:35 AM
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I mean, there is an obvious upside for a drug user to be acquainted with a drug dealer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 09:34 AM
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Lol, drug users like drug dealers, that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 05:00 AM
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That's true, but I would guess men still were fighting each other for women and women did not have much choice (e.g. to choose the one who lost a fight, lol). There was never an “abundance” of rapeable women, aside from the ones in your own nuclear family There was no nuclear family.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 04:57 AM
2

Chad often also watches porn when he wants to jerk after work before sleeping.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 10:50 PM
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If a girl doesn't want you in her prime but then accepts you after, you're the BB. If she accept you for casual sex after, that does not mean you are BB. That can mean you've improved.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 10:07 PM
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Because I know I can pull hotties and I'm not so much of a sex addict that sex with someone I find unattractive is worth the trouble? Well, as long as you aim for your looksmatch (or somewhat below looksmatch, like 1-2 attractiveness points lower than you) you can pull girls almosy regardless of your own attractiveness (not gonna be easy, sure). To fuck Stacy you need to be Chad, to fuck Becky, you need to be an average looking guy (but not Billy, he is too nerdy in character).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 09:29 PM
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Yeah, but generally it is bad for me, because they push for commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 09:01 PM
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It generally is not about N counts themselves. If she acts like a slut, men think she is a slut. When 14 year olds hang out, guys assume a slutty acting 14 year old virgin is DTF and a future slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 08:49 PM
1

TRP also creates paid stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 08:42 PM
1

It has downsides too. Like, they can demand too much attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 08:38 PM
1

I refer to dating as traditional dating. I.e. meeting each other, then commiting, being exclusive to each other, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 08:17 PM
1

A guy who abuses his parents probably would not let you know about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 08:01 PM
1

Does the first apply to dudes who have been mistreated by their mothers and have cut them out of their lives? I mean, you are unlikely to talk with their moms, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 07:55 PM
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80/20 is a logical consequence of men liking casual sex 4x more. Even if all men would be Chads, rendering your post as false, 80/20 would be true. Unless more women were into casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 07:36 PM
1

same with women. Depends on a man. Even on the hottest woman tattoos are a downside to me. And too many tattoos would be a dealbreaker to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 07:19 PM
1

I don't experience mate-guarding. Heck, I don't feel envy at all. I lack the feeling of dependence, I guess. Bu really, IMO mate-guarding is not a good thing. Getting nervous and anxious that someone cheats on you, or leaves you, too much BS. Dating becomes easier. It is more like... you even desire dating itself. Without the feeling of mate-guarding why would you want dating instead of casual stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 07:14 PM
2

The way to play the game is to be as egoistic as the tribe accepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 07:02 PM
1

The way to play the game is to be as egoistic as the tribe allows.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 07:01 PM
2

Its just female version of incel. A genuine slut would be a female version of a monk, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 06:41 PM
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It's a shaming language. I respect women who remain loyal to their sluttery even post-wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 06:16 PM
1

It's a shaming language. I respect women whi remain loyal to their sluttery even post-wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 06:16 PM
2

Is this a pun?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 04:53 PM
1

Damn, can't CYV. Am empathetic, but am attractive. But really no one even wanted to go from ONS to FWBs? Lemme guess... you never accepted ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 04:51 PM
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Yes, not common, just one dumb thing a lot of dudes could do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 04:31 PM
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I think it depends on an individual. I have told some girls they are ugly when I was unmemorably drunk. there's nothing atractive about a Fleshlight There is nothing unattractive as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 04:30 PM
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I think that's not how it works. Some women love anal, for example. Some don't regardless of what a man they are with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 04:09 PM
1

Some sluts love all men they sleep with then. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 01:18 PM
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The following thing happens sometimes to some men: A man sleeps with a woman. A man feels disgust towards the woman he slept with and towards the fact he fucked her. This is called post-nut clarity. And the woman he fucked surely falls into unattractive category.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 01:17 PM
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There also is holy shit, drinking does not help.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 01:12 PM
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Nobody was saying it is the norm. The point is, people can say one thing wgen being asked and do another in an actual situation. Like, I don't think everyone who tells it is better to pull the lever in the trolley problem actually would pull the lever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 01:10 PM
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Imagine if women were as selective as women. The human race would die out in three generations. FTFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 11:04 AM
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Think of it that way: are you attracted to the half of women at least? Even after filtering out by age, race and place of living. But yeah, attraction should be defined for questions like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 11:02 AM
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I think a correct message (that he actually wanted to convey) is that we should be ready for every person to act moronic. After all, everyone acted like a moron at least once in their life. What separates an actual moron from them is that a moron acts that way regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 10:52 AM
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They obviously lower their standards towards alpha traits. Like, a woman is more accepting of men with freckles as she herself gets older. What standards they don't lower are standards for beta traits, which is reasonable becausr they aim for older (more financially established) men as they themselves get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 10:48 AM
0

Perhaps it is about your social circles. Like attracts like.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 10:31 AM
0

Who says anything about liking? They might dislike it, but still not view it as degrading.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 08:04 AM
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No, I just meant that technology and traditionalism are at odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 07:43 AM
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I think you are an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 07:42 AM
2

Then slow and soft sex is not sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 07:15 PM
1

Sure, the point is, #1 porn among women is lesbian, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 04:06 PM
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a certain sex act that could be painful/ degrading Eh, I guess the thing is, most people don't think cumshot on the face is degrading, let alone painful (assuming cum does not hit in the eye).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 04:05 PM
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Why do you think only a man has to ask a woman if it is ok to cum on her face or whatever? Why should not a woman say him that she does not want cum on her face?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 03:35 PM
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I remember all the shit I don't like and talk about it upfront. Yeah, but what if there is some shit you are not even aware of? Or that could be the case in the past when you were less experienced. Also, it is easier to remember things you dislike than things you like. I also ask during if things is ok etc. You are a woman, men don't lose arousal if you ask them. Damn, even lesbians don't lose arousal when asking each other. It must be something with woman's view of the man (that he is not mascu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 03:34 PM
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Jaded perception of reality is the most correct one. The problem is, many jaded people are too cowardly. People realize they can be assaulted somewhere in a dark alley at night, but not all people avoid going through a dark alley at night when needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 02:20 PM
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It is worth being understood. I mean, you all don't understand it. Or you would not be telling "it's not a big deal." If they make it sound like it is a big deal, it must be a big deal, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 02:15 PM
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You must talk to some women here. But anyway, I don't think it is so simple that it can be reduced merely to sex drive. It is about sexuality in general. A man when wants to masturbate looks for porn with women he finds attractive or pics of women he finds attractive. Or he fantasizes about an attractive woman. A woman usually does not look for pics of men she finds attractive (it's like literally impossible for most women to find a stranger man sexually arousing) or porn with men. Nor she fanta…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 02:10 PM
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Okay, why is onus only on the guy? Why can't see say she does not like cum on face? I mean, it is pretty easy to see if a guy is even gonna cum on your face too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 02:03 PM
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I mean, you can't predict everything, remember everything and therefore discuss everything in advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 11:10 AM
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Billy Beta concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 11:09 AM
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If short girls were not attracted to tall guys like their backbone is made of gold, short guys would get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 10:10 AM
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Sure it is, but there are better markers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 10:04 AM
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I mean, a big part of height being correlated with fertility is race. Asians are both shorter and have smaller dicks and balls. Nobody except some freaks has a problem if you reject to date people of a certain race. Now, the idea that age is correlated with fertility has a huge support and its impact is large. Just admit you are 11/10 shallow, because 190cm is much. Oh, and yeah, Leo also is shallow. People generally are shallow. But why you hear whining is because for an old woman to find a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 09:58 AM
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Generally, women don't have sex drive of a man. I mean, I have been told that women masturbate ONLY due to utilitarian reasons (like for a better sleeping, or to fight boredom) and never out of sex drive. Men surely are not like that, they have an inner drive that makes them want to have an orgasm. But really, it is stupid to miss an (important) exam just for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 09:53 AM
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Lmao, asking woman's permission to cum on her face or doing whatever is a huge turn off for her. Who is she, a mommy, to allow things? No, ideally, you should be a telepath knwoing what she wants, but even if you don't, asking permission is the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 09:30 AM
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Rough means hard and fast thrusting maybe with some mild BDSM elements, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 09:29 AM
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You? Just curious. But as I said, it is pretty much the same anywhere in 1st and 2nd world (besides Middle East and maybe China, India).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 09:23 AM
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Okay, you are hookup material, unlike Billies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 09:22 AM
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Okay, you are taller than average, then maybe you care about height (in relative sense) less than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 10:23 PM
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Yeah, 5'8 is not that much below average. And Idk if you yourself are even of an average height.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 10:19 PM
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Height is not everything, just 40% to you, as I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 10:18 PM
0

Have you been there?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 10:13 PM
2

Western Europe should be replaced with the UK. I don't think you will see a lot of Dutch or French or Italian or Spanish or whatever else there is in Western Europe perspective here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 09:58 PM
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MGTOW as an idea of living like a bachelor sometimes fucking some women casually even when you are in 40s, was pretty common back then too. Now MGTOW is a crowd of whiny dudes who are nothing like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 09:55 PM
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It is only about you being in a college. If you present yourself as a working man and date a chick still studying in a college, you are even more expected to pay. But if you present yourself as studying in a college, you can repulse some women. If you are only looking for sex, that's good, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 09:53 PM
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But like American men, American women are the worst. And Russians often believe Russians are the worst. As someone believing in cosmopolitism, I just think people generally are too bad to care about who is the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 09:48 PM
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Lol, Chad telling Billies how easy dating for a man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 09:41 PM
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I don't think I've ever been on a traditional date That's a viable solution for most men here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 09:32 PM
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But apparently they don't do that, and that's probably simply because they want it more sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 09:30 PM
2

It is different for birthdays. You are the only one getting presents. Now, try that for New Year/Christmas.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 09:27 PM
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I have not paid for a single "date" as a man. You can do it in almost any country. Some women think a man has to pay, some don't, some just settle for paying for themselves, some pay when a man is being too insistive that he does not pay for her and it becomes a last date. But it is pretty much the same in many places of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 09:25 PM
1

Yeah, men want a whole park of cars when they can afford it, did not you know it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 09:14 PM
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How do you know that dudes in between don't like dominant women? But generally, yeah, I just like people with a strong character in general, and women too. However, I don't look for them to dominate me, that actually is supposed to be a partnership.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 09:05 PM
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Men who care about what others think look weak and pathetic. No wonder humanity as whole looks that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:57 PM
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I mean, even humilation is understandable. But cuckery is beyond logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 07:25 PM
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Because that's how most men work (but few get to this extreme). They try to prove themselves they are not worthless when others make them think they are. When others don't, they don't try to prove others anything and don't do things, don't self-improve, etc. Don't even know if that is better, or not giving a fuck about anybody's opinion on you at all (besides pragmatic reasons).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 07:23 PM
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You get far-sightedness with age, usually. But honestly I just think older men don't give a fuck and don't cut their nasal hair, that's why you think it is about age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 06:14 PM
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It is not purge week, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:26 AM
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I am far from 40 and sometimes hair stick out from my nose. If I don't cut them. I am not sure why you think it is age thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:25 AM
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Hm, it is not about age. I am cutting those nostril hair since 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:23 AM
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I was talking specifically about OP who is bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:22 AM
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Yeah, and why not 37? Not 39? And he also will be less handsome anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:21 AM
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Since I am looking for FWBs, I agree with it fully.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:45 AM
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Nah, if you go hedonism path, go until the end. I want to have hedonistic women once I become older.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:42 AM
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Yeah, lol, Sarah Jessica Parker is such a 10 (/s).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:39 AM
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noses without hair So, they want literal babies? Or do you mean hair on the outer side of the nose?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:36 AM
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Except TRP claims men's SMV peaks at 38.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:22 AM
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At 30, women are jaded, fucked up, probably have STD's by that point, probably has total N count past 40, have the same standards as a 20 year old despite being the depreciating asset This sounds biased. Especially STDs and N count points.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:20 AM
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No, I don't believe in it. She does not sound like she ecen respected him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:02 AM
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That makes sense, but there should be a legal gap established.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:01 AM
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Never said anything about continuation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:00 AM
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No, I just don't agree with "all sex between adults and minors is non-consensual" definition. When it is not used, raping and abuse by adults is not that common.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 11:04 PM
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I think it is hard to know when she is sexually exploited if she already was sexually active. That's why people don't usually think she is exploited. I just think that most of non-consensual sex young girls have is sex with peers, even in countries where age of consent is lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 10:57 PM
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Makes sense. Why does abusing happen even despite laws, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 10:05 PM
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Yes, that's what I mean. They point to wards longer life as it shows it is an upside, when actually ot could hide a downside.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 10:04 PM
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Multiple states.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 10:02 PM
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And their bfs are adults? Also, age of consent is raised from 16 to 18, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 10:01 PM
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Alpha Bucks = being good both for sex and relationships. Being desired for commitment but where sex also is better than maintenance sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 09:58 PM
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No, you can score high both in alpha and beta. Hence, AB.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 09:42 PM
1

Yes, but of what age?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 09:33 PM
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Nobody says they wanted it when it is about exploitation rings. If it was just a guy and a girl at party, that's it, people will say she wanted it, especially of she did not file a suit herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 09:33 PM
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Yes, but what kinds of minors you think are abused in sexual exploitation rings? 17 year old or 10 year old?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 09:29 PM
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That's the minority of non-consensual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 09:25 PM
1

I don't see their effectiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 09:24 PM
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I mean, all of that happens to adults and most of those things are done by peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 09:21 PM
1

Well, but why are governments raising the age of consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 09:12 PM
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Well, then it was just a shit test. As usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 09:08 PM
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Still, the ones coming are richer and rich = more progressive usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:39 PM
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Or, more likely, shitty medicine and high alcoholism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:39 PM
1

Can you give examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:30 PM
2

And when studies point out that in relationships where the men make less, the males are the ones who are actually upset, go passive aggressive, and are five times as likely to commit adultery, Red Pillers feel it is the “woman’s fault” for making them act that way. Lmao, as if most men who make less do that voluntarily. And then, those who do, more often spend their time with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:28 PM
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Yeah, that also is that, but I guess it does not make a big difference in Russia (checkups?), so it is alien to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:26 PM
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Yes, that's true, single men also drink more, use more drugs, doing extreme sports, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:21 PM
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Yes, another thing I don't understand is why is her bf even in the stream. Unless that bf is a streamer himself, that would explain that. Apparently many pop stars are not permitted to have them, or must keep it a secret by their agency for similar reasons—mad world. Not sure I agree. We know about their personal lives a lot, probably too lot. And they usually are not perpetually single/fucking only casually.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:16 PM
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And now, honestly, why would you think a woman that not only makes if clear she won't pay, but also flirts with everyone but you, will sleep with you? I would not. I think he just has tried Tinder for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:14 PM
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I mean, it is not like they are antagonistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:12 PM
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Longer life is because married men do not do as much risky stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:12 PM
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I mean, he wants to stop being sexless (and with a woman he finds attractive enough). Does not matter if it is through a casual or a serious relationship. A man that knows what he wants cuts short Unless that man is too wimpy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:10 PM
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The same thing is gradually happening now in Russia.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:07 PM
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Just because he will get nothing (valuable to him) out of it does not mean others won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:06 PM
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He knows what he wants, though. Both are better than being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:05 PM
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This makes sense, but by closing restautants they are increasing the number of people in stores. I mean, government representatives also are prone to panic and just can't solve the situation rationally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:04 PM
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No, there is a case when marriage can be beneficial to a man. A fictitious marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:02 PM
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I mean, bars and cafes could do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:00 PM
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I think he is the kind of a guy who is up both for casual and serious. But got none.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:59 PM
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Hm, smart, because bars surely accomodate more people than public transport.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:56 PM
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With the exception of Chad. BTW, does public transport still work?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:54 PM
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This view is not even meaningful. I mean, what would be the results of gender change? Would people's personalities change? Would people's memories change? I am asking, because for now I am picturing women gathering together in bars drinking beers talking how pleasant it was to touch their own boobies and moving back to sports and cars. Damn, that can make an interesting plot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:47 PM
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Do you yourself agree with it, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:44 PM
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"Why are old people upset that their health has declined? It is natural, they should not be upset." OP when talking to old people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:41 PM
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How is anything you have written tied to AF/BB mentality? What even is AF/BB mentality? AF/BB just means that some traits make you desirable for sex and some traits make you desirable for partnership and commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:40 PM
1

What if age of consent is 16? What if 14?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:36 PM
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Lol, you talk so much about wine aunt like you are planning to become one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:31 PM
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He is correct for the second part, though, is not he, lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:29 PM
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I thought age of consent is a result of 19-20th century suffragism + Victorian morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:25 PM
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I am talking about Asians who live in or migrate to the US. It was in the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:23 PM
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A lot of really young women enjoyed having sex with an old man. That doesn't make it okay. Does not make it okay because I said so.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:06 PM
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Yes, but female empowerment was inevitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 06:58 PM
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He said sterile dating and no family formation. He said it is due to technology, not female empowerment. And yeah, it is, female empowerment itself was the result of technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 06:52 PM
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The thread: SJWs care, outliers don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 06:51 PM
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The one is illegal and the other is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 06:49 PM
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Especially if both women used the same tricks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 06:48 PM
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Sugar babying is not prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 06:48 PM
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How are you so sure all he was intending to do is pumping and dumping? I mean, her slutty vibes have crossed that, and she did not even care about presenting herself decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 06:17 PM
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Then she is. I am just saying that in his particular case she has got what she wanted and he has not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 06:12 PM
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No, if she paid for herself and clearly wanted commitment and he fucked her, she would be a victim. Here it is clear she just looked for some loser to pay for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 06:07 PM
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This is not how the majority of men date, though. If she makes him feel she is not gonna pay for herself, most men don't have balls to make her pay for herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:50 PM
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It was both. If she did not act trashy and said she does not have sex on first dates he could believe it. But as how she behaved, he disbelieved her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:48 PM
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Asian people are catching up with white people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:45 PM
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You were talking about the era of technology and now switched the topic to female liberation out of nowhere. I mean, the era of technology will hit the entirety of the humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:45 PM
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She also gained. When both gain and lose, it's an exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:41 PM
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Oh, she lost nothing there and he did. He has voluntarily made himself a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:36 PM
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Exactly. She said him she does not fuck on first dates and he dumbly accepted that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:33 PM
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No, OP just did what he felt is right to do. Because he is beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:25 PM
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I think you are missing my point. It is not like other guys she is intimate with were in relationships with her. Of course he would not commit to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:19 PM
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No, then it would be a transaction. He paid for drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:16 PM
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Okay, it is not a fraud, just exploitation (vs. transaction).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:14 PM
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Yes, that's what happens. Big gaps are more common in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:06 PM
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For casual sex it is different. Casual sex dpes not produce financial dependence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:01 PM
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My point is, it is the general vibe that she gave.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 04:57 PM
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I mean, she ordered a lot of drinks and expected he will pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 04:56 PM
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Yeah, that's the point, the fact her BF is not shy does not prove anything. But I already have stated my opinion on the topic, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 04:56 PM
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If you did not figure what game is, does not mean looks decide everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 04:55 PM
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They can be assertive and still submissive. Kinda like "I am strong but want to feel weak sometimes."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 04:54 PM
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I am not sure. If she slept with him, he would not complain. If she did not sleep with him and did not text with other guys he would not complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 04:53 PM
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Women certainly care about clothing and status when it is about hookups. And more importantly about game. More than in LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 03:10 PM
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Small anecdotal evidence is as incredible as a small survey. I mean, a survey over one person also will not be treated as reliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 03:08 PM
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I suspect an obnoxious 2% of men send 80% of the messages and most of these messages are either vulgar, offensive, or "hi" Only 2% of dudes send 80% of "hi" messages to you? Makes sense, because gay/bi dudes are not really common.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 03:06 PM
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I think ridiculous logic is when she rejects short dudes and is angry at dudes who reject her for being fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 03:01 PM
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Women also reject men for things they can change. Like, clothing, status, etc. And men also reject women for things she can't change. Like ugly skeletal features. Or skin color (it can only be changed to a degree).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 02:59 PM
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I see that many arrogant women are over me. They will sexually escalate and so on, and even now at 23 I don't look masculine (besides my nose being quite big, it was that way since maybe 15). And I don't see how "young women find feminine dudes more attractive because older men to be more masculine" is well-reasoned. I mean, these feminine dudes will remain feminine later. Dudes who are masculine at 30 were so since teens. So, the real answer is in women's personality. Women who like and are ope…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 02:57 PM
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Everyone settles, but some people settle to misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 02:49 PM
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TBF, I can say I like small-perky-titted women amd have a gf that has big non-perky tits, or vice versa. And that won't be inconsistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 02:48 PM
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Meh, an interview that I have never seen taken just from one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 02:44 PM
0

No, it is more like "I have forgotten my money at home, will you pay for me?" Or it would be that if he told she pays for herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 02:42 PM
0

I mean, it is what separates a fraud from a transaction. Only party used the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 01:52 PM
1

Wait, that counts for circlejerking?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 01:39 PM
0

Still, there are better ways. And she was using him from the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 01:32 PM
3

I mean, "I don't fuck on first dates" is a big message.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 11:11 AM
2

So, you'd say only 60% would choose relationships over casual sex if casual sex was on the table? That sounds more realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 11:00 AM
6

The majority of men (~80%) and women (~90+%) don't engage in or pursue casual sex regularly. Lmao, how many men WISH they could be able to get casual sex easily and just settle for relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 10:54 AM
125

She understands that her audience is shy guys and just lies to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 10:35 AM
2

If you look like you are doing all that stuff, you won't need to go on dinner dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 10:34 AM
1

No, then she would just say she is too drunk for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 10:30 AM
113

Lmao, dude, she used you as a beta. Why would she try to conceal red flags on a foodie call?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 10:28 AM
1

Because the latter dudes spend more time with sluts who themselves do drugs and so on. Uninihibited guys do drugs, usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 09:39 AM
1

Where are you taking it from? A regular bully is not hotter than a dude who has punched a bully.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 09:08 AM
1

There are FDS women and TRP men here and they hate the other sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 09:03 AM
1

Are they attracted? I.e. are they gonna discuss her looks between each other, are they gonna look at her just to please the eye, etc. No, they mostly are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 09:01 AM
3

However, a man who fucks a sheep, does not hug it, does not find it aesthetically beautiful, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:59 AM
1

It's worse than useless advice that is given by TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:45 AM
1

Yeah, they get laid as much. Just with different girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:44 AM
2

I thought you are Marty.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 09:50 PM
3

I don't see what makes you think this is gonna happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 09:49 PM
1

An uninhibited nice guy isn't as attractive as an uninhibited asshole. This is questionable. How do you come as an uninhibited nice guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 09:44 PM
1

No, an asshole comes off as attractive also only when he comes off as uninhibited.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 09:01 PM
1

Yeah, just as not all bitches are created equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:55 PM
2

Not permanently. But people will be thirsty for things they were missing once everything is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:52 PM
1

Well, the same also comes to assholes. Niceguys come as assholes after rejection, still does not help them to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:51 PM
1

You, of course. It is an interesting take because it is the only valid one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:50 PM
2

It is going to hit people who don't go outside harder. Not really. They still stay inside as they did. Who are gonna be hitted are people who went outside, because now they will stay inside more. As for coronavirus, I guess vaccine will come in about a year, so it is not something apocalyptic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:49 PM
1

I mean, you like saying that blue pillers believe stuff like "just be yourself", but this is not what happens under this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:44 PM
1

I mean, statistics surely disagree. A woman who swears and calls people names and so on comes off as uninhibited.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:41 PM
1

Sure nit like that, just that men associate bitchiness with sluttiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:39 PM
1

The linked thread is downvoted as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:29 PM
1

That's the biggest difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:27 PM
1

I have described the difference between TRP and TBP. That's it, red pillers fuck women who hope for more than just sex and tell it is not their problem these women are dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:26 PM
1

I mean, men use bitchiness as a proxy for DTFness, and women use assholeness for some proxy as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:24 PM
2

Yeah, but it surely is not being upfront. Which is what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:23 PM
1

As I said, that's not true. Men actually are MORE interested if a woman is not responding ti messages immediately. Makes them intrigued, probably. And the same for being mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:19 PM
1

They want to be businessmen selling toilet paper to neighbors for double price.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:18 PM
2

Nobody will admit that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:16 PM
1

So does hers. Guys flock around bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:15 PM
2

"Lying by omission", as people call it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:11 PM
1

From your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:06 PM
2

being upfront about what you want, finding people who are into the things you're into and enjoy your company Kinda like that. Being upfront that you want a hookup will lead to getting a hookup faster. Given that you are attractive enough, otherwise it will be 0 vs. 0 hookups. And you will have to be dishonest, so that a woman expects relationships, but you pump and dump her. That's the difference between TRP and TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:06 PM
2

TRP is not written by a single individual and can't be expressed in a single comment as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:01 PM
1

Well, it is what you see. A bitch also can see that guys are all over her when she is answering his messages with delay, or being a bit mean, and believe that dudes like bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:01 PM
2

No, but I don't think that was all advice the BP can give.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 07:58 PM
2

They already do and that leads to miserable marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 07:56 PM
2

So, those advices are basically what TRP usually gives. It feel like you disagree with bloops just because they are bloops, regardless of what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 07:55 PM
1

I mean, when it comes to men it is the same. It is not being an asshole per se that attracts women. It is that they believe assholes tend to be more sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 07:55 PM
2

Yeah, except the language they use.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 07:53 PM
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