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What the fuck even is this? Stop kidding yourself, rolling high on ecstasy and telling some girl to leave you alone doesn’t make you high value, and it 100% means you left the situation without an accurate view of what the hell was happening around you. She went home and told your friend how worried she is about you, how you’re a druggie falling apart, and you went home feeling like you conquered something. Stop the drugs man, nothing will prevent you from real success more than this shit.
/r/TheRedPill16/05/23 10:51 AM
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lol
/r/MGTOW04/09/18 12:49 AM
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Except...both are reasonable questions when considering dating someone? It isn’t that asking how much you make is irrelevant to her, it’s that questions that are relevant to you (weight for example) are looked down upon.
/r/MensRights18/04/18 02:34 PM
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Ride the decline, think as you wish but act like others.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/16 12:04 AM
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Average life spans of previous generations looks low due to high infant mortality - in 1800, if you made it to 10 years of age, your life expectancy was close to 60 years. We do live a bit longer now, but not sure it's enough to throw off any biological urge for monogamy, if it exists.
/r/TheRedPill14/09/16 11:43 AM
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Yea, these people hate it when you point out that thinking gender is a social construct means being 'born' trans is impossible. Like literally, these two ideas are mutually exclusive and you can't believe both...
/r/MensRights04/09/16 05:20 PM
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That was a lot less hot and a lot more creepy than I expected.
/r/MensRights21/04/16 01:21 PM
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Please tell me you forgot the /s?!?!?
/r/MensRights31/08/15 08:35 PM
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The main reason i cant be bothered by feminists is this kind of thing - too many mutually exclusive principles at the same time, and too many 'feminisms' mean there isn't a coherent theory.
/r/MensRights31/08/15 07:47 PM
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What is this dominant social nature you have shown more? I mean, what have you done different that has garnered the positive response?
/r/TheRedPill01/04/15 10:51 PM
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For this particular case, they need to do a better job of differentiating between being sexually victimized, and being victimized by abuse of authority. These students, being over 18, were not sexually victimized in any way. They all likely had fun. However, this isn't about that - it's about holding individuals in positions of authority to a standard of integrity and self control. It's the same reason most employers ban relationships between a regular employee and a manager (or that very least,…
/r/PussyPassDenied29/03/15 04:12 PM
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The nature of the argument is not 'what is worse', rather it is about one of the most heavily entrenched ethical notions around: self determination. This is not a decision anyone should ever make for someone else. Parents do not 'own' children, they are custodians of another human until they come of age. Something like circumcision, of either gender, is a permanent physical alteration of the body, and to take away the experience of being 'whole' from anyone is, in my opinion, one of the worst th…
/r/MensRights28/03/15 11:12 PM
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My hope is that a 5 year tailing off becomes the norm, regardless of whether the man or women pays. That is exactly enough time for a kid to get in school if just barely born, and more than enough time to get educated and find suitable employ.
/r/MensRights23/02/15 11:59 PM
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I don't feel worked up, my original comment was just reiterating my position that if they can pass the test then let 'em in, while noting the obvious soon-to-be consequence of this action because we are sexually dimorphic.
/r/MensRights06/12/14 08:25 PM
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Yes I read that - the problem however is that will never stick. The US Marines recently allowed women to apply for combat roles and something like 90% failed basic fitness and now feminists are arguing that these women need a different physical fitness test. That idea works on paper of course, but not in the real world where certain jobs truly require a level of fitness regardless of gender in order to be completed effectively. So - if a woman can complete the same job as the men in her company …
/r/MensRights06/12/14 08:18 PM
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Your assertion works on paper, but not in the real word, and it's for the same reason current economic theory doesn't make long term sense - finite resources. There are not enough higher level well paying jobs for all people doing the same work and contributing the same amount to be promoted or have the same outcome. Welcome to real life, it sucks.
/r/MensRights06/12/14 08:13 PM
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I support equality of opportunity, not equality of outcomes or position. A women has the right, like a man, to apply for any job she wants, and she should be given that job solely on the basis of whether or not they can complete it effectively. The problem being that we are a sexually dimorphic species, and the average physically fit woman cannot physically keep up with the average physically fit man in virtually every single measurable area: strength, endurance, dexterity, etc. - and when they …
/r/MensRights06/12/14 06:15 AM
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Oh dear god I had forgotten about that info wars idiot! Thanks for bringing him back into my life haha! And thuderf00t is badass!
/r/MensRights17/08/14 11:11 PM
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Agreed - it's basically the liberal version of Fox News. Every once in a while they pick up a decent story, generally written by someone that isn't on their payroll, but I really can't read that site anymore.
/r/MensRights17/08/14 05:48 PM
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Well obviously that is likely the case, but how ridiculous is that policy? They aren't hurting anyone, if done in private they aren't making a show of themselves. It's crazy that university students, adults, can't have sex, or a type of sex, on a school trip.
/r/PussyPass03/05/14 10:19 PM
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So what? They are all consenting adults, and unless I misssd it, this didn't happen out in public...did it?
/r/PussyPass03/05/14 03:20 PM
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I thought perhaps there was something we were missing, but nope, this is pretty much straight up pussy pass. Though I fail to understand why 7 consenting adults can't have a gang bang without getting kicked out of university? Perhaps it is some private religious school?
/r/PussyPass03/05/14 01:49 PM
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For me it is at work - girls get away with wearing most anything - dresses, skirts, pants, half-pants (whatever they are called), collared shirts, regular shirts, low cut shirts, shawls, jackets, tight anything, dress shoes, heels, flats, most can get away with some form of flip-flop even...and here I am, wearing dress pants, dress shoes, and a button down shirt every single day with no other option...not really women's fault or anything, but honestly if any group is told what they can and canno…
/r/MensRights28/04/14 05:24 AM
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I find this to be a rather meaningless subversion to be honest, deserving of no more attention than catholic cemeteries, or pet cemeteries. It succeeds only in bringing us down to the level of tumblr feminists, and when I say us I mean the mrm (as in the purpose of this sub) Take this to /r/mensrants
/r/MensRights01/04/14 11:44 PM
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Feminists would be outraged, which is why we think feminists are crazy and misguided - all this does is put the mrm on the same level, nothing more. Not to mention the mrm is not about opposition to feminist crazy, but rather the promotion of rights for men.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 09:23 PM
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Don't get me wrong - I was not arguing that the US is a democracy, has a functional federal government, or has real representation. I mean, it would be a far sway in my opinion to compare the functional systems, quality of life, etc. of the US and say The Congo, or N. Korea, or Sudan. Personally, I believe the US to be a near complete plutocracy, with a shallow form of 'representation' chosen by the plutocracy for the plutocracy. The only saving grace in the past was the relatively large middle …
/r/MensRights17/03/14 04:41 AM
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Not really. A democracy can certainly be capitalist, and representative within a federal system, and have a president. To think about it another way: Representative, Democracy, and Federal are all referring to the government - none are contradictory unless you take the position that democracy is only direct (in which case, Switzerland would be the closest thing to a democracy - and you would call what the US and most Western EU countries have a 'democratic republic') Presidential refers to a bra…
/r/MensRights17/03/14 03:51 AM
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Not sure why you are getting the downvotes, because I agree completely. Sex in a relationship should not be used as a weapon, or a way to get what you want. Hell, my mother (bless her unfiltered mind) told me that she has a neversayno policy towards sex with her husband - because it can only lead to unhappiness and discontentedness on the other persons part.
/r/MensRights09/03/14 06:11 PM
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lol you're basically making my point for me. False rape accusations happen, and men are always assumed to be guilty, just like black people. I know that black people are arrested at an unfair rate and assumed to be guilty - hence the comparison. If you're going to say that "I suggest people just stop raping" in order for you to feel comfortable or safe, then you may as well never leave the house (and even then, someone might break down your door and rape you anyways) - honestly, this it typical …
/r/MensRights28/02/14 02:46 PM
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The thing is, with the advent of small cheap pistols, the size of another human really has little to do with whether or not they are going to harm you. I mean, statistically black men are more likely to rob you, so should you be allowed to discriminate against them. It's real lasting physical and financial damage they could do to you.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 05:56 AM
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So what you're saying is, is that there is indeed a collective delusion, only that it's about women not torturing children.
/r/MensRights11/02/14 01:47 AM
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Agreed. Oh well, at least I got to see some french girls topless. (downvote away)
/r/MensRights11/02/14 01:46 AM
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Probably because you're too stupid to realize the difference between talking about women's nature, and complaining about women's nature.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/14 07:11 PM
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I don't think he is out to change women, he is out to wake women up. Marc Rudov is almost pure red pill.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/14 03:44 PM
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That was the best part for me. She says his wife left him, he doesn't even hear it. I am immediately impressed by other men who are able to maintain frame. edit: here to hear
/r/TheRedPill09/02/14 03:43 PM
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I would murder the person who ripped off my testicles.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 02:49 PM
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The article even said as much when it referenced how today's thieves are 'clueless' about the rules of the street, that you don't steal from women and children.
/r/MensRights06/02/14 02:48 AM
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Honestly, and I could be wrong, it seems like RP in regards to the ladies can basically be boiled down to: don't take them seriously, make fun of and tease them all the time.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 01:14 AM
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Preach brother! The only type of cheating I will ever get involved in is the kind where she has a husband/boyfriend. To me, those girls are simple as shit to game after the initial wall because the 'cheating' makes it sexy and dangerous all by itself. She turns herself on just thinking about it.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/14 02:36 AM
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For fucks sake. Honestly. First, she is being too sensitive and her feelings are wrong, get over it. (not that this wasn't a perfect play by the guy haha) But I love how this is framed as if guys never hear the word. Men are never called silly, or adorkable, or goofy, or creepy, etc etc etc ad infinitum.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/14 12:20 AM
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Big mistake, just like hers: There is no wrong feeling. Bullshit, feelings are wrong most days all day.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/14 12:17 AM
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The best part is that she briefly states how she finally "let it drop", which to me means they fucked big time. This is just one giant hamster after the fact, gotta love the guy who did this to her.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/14 12:17 AM
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Maybe, maybe not. IMO a hairy pussy is a stinky pussy. Girls go around all day and sweat, and that sweat is soaked right up by pubes. It's the same reason I keep my own pubes trimmed.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 05:20 AM
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This is what happens when /r/feminism bans anyone who doesn't wholeheartedly agree with feminism and is looking for a discussion and not a lecture. Poor /r/feminism hahahaha
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 04:44 PM
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You do realize that is the whole point, right? It was meant to go too far, to bring attention to the issue.
/r/MensRights03/01/14 08:43 PM
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Why should parents be allowed to force cosmetic surgery on to a child, completely going around the ethical principles of self determination and the right to bodily integrity? Parents do not own children, they are custodians of another human being until they become an adult.
/r/MensRights01/01/14 05:52 PM
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First, circumcision is mutilation, by definition. It doesn't matter that you don't like the word and don't see it as that: it is, by definition, there is no way around it. You may see it as an improvement, and that is also fine: but the issue for most here is in regards to ethics: self determination and the right to bodily integrity. This means that parents, ethically, should not be allowed to force children to have cosmetic surgery. The child should choose, when he is of age to understand what …
/r/MensRights01/01/14 05:50 PM
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That's the point: to each their own. Not: To each parents own. It's an issue of who should be making the decision to have cosmetic surgery.
/r/MensRights01/01/14 05:42 PM
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You believe it works fine, but you have no control group with which to compare - and their are numerous studies demonstrating the functionality of the male foreskin. Hell, 99% of the western worlds medical associations do not suggest it, and their are many organizations composed of entirely doctors opposing circumcision for medical reasons, like DOC, Doctors Opposing Circumcision - I myself am circumcised, and I also do not feel like that my penis lacks function. I enjoy sex, I enjoy masturbatio…
/r/MensRights01/01/14 05:40 PM
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Oh I agree, many complaints are indeed bogus, but even that strikes on a slight issue: the decline in intimate male friendships. A lot of these guys on here likely have no truly close male friends, and it fucks with their head. And I completely agree that women aren't anywhere near as pervy on average, however when it comes to violence I remain open minded considering that most domestic violence studies show both men and women as instigators and aggressors. It also might not be fair to compare p…
/r/MensRights30/12/13 05:57 PM
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I agree a lot of the stuff on this sub is rather pointless to me. However, sometimes it strikes on real issues that matter. The family court system bias, challenging the false gender-wage gap, addressing the growing issue of male underachievement in schools, etc. these are important and make real victims of a lot of men. Some people are certainly looking to simply blame others for their issues but some are truly victims regardless of how you look at it, like babies who are circumcised with no ch…
/r/MensRights30/12/13 05:03 PM
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How did it seem biased? It used MIT studies and a notable intellectual as sources and didn't push anything extreme...
/r/MensRights30/12/13 03:39 PM
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Damn that is insightful, women want equality when that equality is set to level by them
/r/TheRedPill29/12/13 11:40 PM
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Hmmmm not sure why this is here, because the women are being held on extremely serious charges and it seems unlikely they will get off...seems like justice will be served.
/r/MensRights28/12/13 05:52 PM
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The crazy thing is that she has no reason to care about male circumcision, why did she get so heated and upset that she hit someone once. I can't remember where I heard it, but I was once told that men are the ones with the most sexual self control, because they have to deal with extremely powerful sexual urges on a daily basis from the time they hit puberty. I think the same could be said for aggression. It is really men who have the greatest self control, because of our high levels of testoste…
/r/MensRights28/12/13 05:40 PM
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Poor guy, he even warned him it was going on the telly
/r/TheRedPill23/12/13 01:35 AM
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Agreed. Prostitution harms women in the sense that other women have their sexual power over men reduced, and thus are less able to coerce and control men.
/r/MensRights23/12/13 12:47 AM
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I would say I identify as egalitarian, but in my mind that means recognizing that men are getting the short end of most sticks these days and so I am here. That, however, does not mean I don't recognize that women also have issues that deserve to be addressed (though if I were asked, I would say feminism isn't the answer. Mostly because their is no longer a unified feminism, but instead many feminisms - and because I feel through much of its history it has tried to get women ahead and not equali…
/r/MensRights22/12/13 01:50 AM
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Eh, the Victorian era is a great example of 99% of men and women having it shitty, and 1% having it awesome. The reason current articles leave a lot of holes is because their are a lot of holes in how people are treated, both men and women get shafted daily. For me, I am a part of MR because I believe women getting shafted get so much attention that many men who may be suffering worse or are disadvantaged in areas, simply get overlooked. Great example was on here earlier of an article about how …
/r/MensRights22/12/13 01:24 AM
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Well of course it took more than one thing to get women into the work force, but it was capitalism and champions of industry who took that and turned it into what it is now. Self realization is of course not from work, for men or women, but when you are forced to spend the majority of your life working and you are 'ok' with this (especially considering how many of us are forced into jobs we hate), then their is something wrong with you. The women's movement had the wrong focus in my opinion. Ins…
/r/MensRights22/12/13 12:03 AM
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I would disagree that capitalism came from the loss of values and traditions, rather I would say that capitalism caused a loss of tradition and values. We also would need to ask whether traditions and values are inherently good (I would say no). No one is saying that women didn't have a hand in capitalism either, only that there was a time where women didn't have to slave at work in order to make money, and that went away once intelligent capitalists figured out they could double the work force,…
/r/MensRights21/12/13 11:09 PM
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Exactly. The financial 'independence' of women is a farce. It has forced women into the work force even if they wish not to be, took them away from spending all day with their children, lowered the wages of everyone because of the massive labour increase. Women don't want to admit this, but their 'emancipation' came not from feminism but big capitalism.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 07:05 PM
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He does have that right, technically. My guess is that these men recorded it for a reason. Because while men have the right to defend themselves against violent women, these women often claim they did nothing and are believed. We all need to record everything.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 04:05 PM
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I was at a loss listening to this woman. One of the biggest issues I think we face as a species when it comes to gender, is the lessening and removing of empathy between the genders. It, of course, goes back and forth, but currently I feel it is certainly women who have no understanding or even desire to feel empathy of or for men. She explained quite clearly that this man was uncomfortable with using only one form of birth control (that is, after she assumed he just wanted to go without), and t…
/r/MensRights15/12/13 10:45 PM
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The funny part, is the article actually says they asked about that, but the MP said "That won't be a problem" and then moved on, not explaining how this problem is not a problem.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/13 04:56 PM
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but...I want to snuggle...
/r/MensRights14/12/13 06:55 PM
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Agreed.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 08:11 PM
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'we' may have been the wrong word. I usually assume though that 'we' here in mensrights intend not just equal treatment, but justice and the promotion of ethical treatment for everyone. I suppose it is wrong to make such an assumption for everyone here.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 05:19 PM
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Regardless making men look like shit sells papers. Maybe, I personally think it's the stories about female baddies that sell papers (because girls never do anything wrong ever, so when they do it is sensational and special and lifetime has to make a show about it!!!) I would challenge you on 'the same treatment' being the goal. The goal should be good treatment. Those who are already treated well should not have that taken away in the name of equality, instead those who are treated badly compare…
/r/MensRights12/12/13 03:33 AM
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Excellent analysis, keep up the good work.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 03:23 AM
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Woah? You can do that??? I had no idea...I mean, as long as I admit I was wrong after I can do whatever right? Right?
/r/MensRights12/12/13 03:20 AM
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No. This is what is completely wrong and makes us look bad. This isn't the feminist movement, we aren't out to 'even the score' or even ensure 'equal but terrible treatment'. We are out to better mens position in a world which seems to have forgotten that men are people too, and the way to do that does not include 'bring down everyone else to our level of suffering first'. That said, this bitch was actually convicted already and she is certainly a molester - and many other women actually rape yo…
/r/MensRights12/12/13 03:19 AM
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The problem with you saying that I am wrong and need to broaden my understanding is that you have presented zero reasons for saying why it is incorrect regardless of the validity of semantic change and thus incorrect lay usage. You did not demonstrably show that I was wrong in saying the word has been in flux from feminists using it. Not that it matters why a word is in flux, only that it is. I personally attribute it to the rise of feminism and a broad social ideology, you may attribute it to s…
/r/MensRights05/12/13 05:49 PM
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Sir, stop telling me to broaden my understanding, it's insulting and serves no purpose other than to push your own supposed superiority in the subject matter. I agree, the dictionary definition has not completely changed. This is why I said the word has been in flux. As you can imagine it takes a very long time for a word to change. I think we could agree, though, that the average lay usage of the word in the west has changed to mean something much closer to 'the oppression of women'. Many dicti…
/r/MensRights05/12/13 05:19 PM
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That doesn't change the definition of the word. It just means that they coinsistently aren't using it properly. The word has not been "in flux" it meant "hatred of women" when it first appeared in the lat 1600's, it still means "hatred of women" now. That's what the prefix "mis" has always signified in the english language. Yes, it does. The english language has specific rules allowing for a changing definition of the word based on lay usage. It's the same rule that has allowed 'aint' to actuall…
/r/MensRights05/12/13 04:58 PM
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The shaming tactics were certainly on full display. How is the fact that he is wearing a dress relevant to the discussion?
/r/MensRights05/12/13 04:56 PM
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That was super fun to watch! Absolutely loved that guy Ross, telling it how it is despite all the clamour. Even the MRA in the dress, while obviously have different issues that he was passionate about, was nodding his head most of the time. The women in the audience did absolutely zero thinking and reflection, and had only the surface level of listening while they waited to retort, regardless of what was said.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 04:56 PM
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I disagree. The English language has developed specific rules surrounding word usage that has enabled English to adopt and add new words all the time, as well as the changing meaning of the word. Many words in the dictionary now have definitions that do not equate to their etymological origins but instead their daily use. Misogyny is certainly a word that has been in flux in that last century, as at one time I agree that the etymological definition was the one used. However, when the first wave …
/r/MensRights05/12/13 04:29 PM
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I've never done it or seen a guy do it, but I've had girls say this exact thing to me and it worked so...yea, go for it...
/r/seduction04/12/13 04:35 PM
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I like this, especially the story he told of being at the gym. I noticed that women don't do this when I was young because of my mother. If I made a mistake around my father, if he could tell I knew what I had done was a mistake he would just let it go and barely say anything or pat me on the back to reassure me all was well and he was glad I learned something. If I make a mistake around my mother, and she can tell I know I made a mistake, she would still lecture me for 30m or more about how I m…
/r/TheRedPill03/12/13 05:21 PM
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That's how I feel - it might be a bit paranoid, but it's not like I am wearing a helmet when I walk down the street because a car might kill me. It is literally a paranoia that takes less than a minute to assuage - what's the big deal? Oh, right, trust is. But trust is obviously overrated, is it not? All those men who have been sperm-jacked also trusted, all those men and women who were cheated on also trusted, and everyone who has ever gotten married was sure it would work because of love or wh…
/r/TheRedPill03/12/13 05:17 PM
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The words have truly lost their meaning. Sexism is now some crazy equation that makes it only apply to women, and women cry misogyny so often it hurts to even read anymore. Misogyny especially - if I don't do what girls want that doesn't mean I hate women.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 07:56 PM
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Spot on. I fucked a girl for several years who was married. All my friends told me I was a 'bad guy' and 'dishonourable' - I didn't know the guy, all I knew is his smokin' hot skinny blonde wife took it in the ass like a champ. Why should I feel bad about that?
/r/TheRedPill28/11/13 04:43 PM
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My internet is down so I am on my phone, but this shouldn't be too hard to find if you understand what you're looking for. Don't google: 'draft, vote, mandatory' - instead, simply google: 'voter registration, usa', and read about how when you register to vote you are automatically signed up for the selective service - ergo, you cannot vote without signing up for the selective service. Also, if you are the type of person who doesn't vote, don't think you get out free. After age 25, if you have no…
/r/MensRights27/11/13 02:35 PM
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Well shit, here I was thinking I knew what I was talking about. Thanks for the correction, now I wont make an ass of myself in the future.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 11:06 PM
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As others have said, it is required military conscription/selective service. In the US, the chief issue is not simply that men have to sign up and women do not, rather it is that men are required to sign up to vote, while women are not. This means men have a conditional right to vote, while women have a universal right to vote.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 06:13 PM
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Look guy, you're going to ruffle some feathers. Be prepared for what this will mean. Your teacher is likely going to disagree with you. All the girls will likely mock you (and you can't counter back with logic or anything, not because they cannot understand but because their goal is to make fun of you and to make you look stupid - best not address those girls, or guys, anyways). Honestly, if you have not picked up "The Myth of Male Power" by Dr. Warren Farrel, you really should. That book is a g…
/r/MensRights24/11/13 05:00 PM
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I wish I could sit on a deck in the woods smoking my pipe and drinking scotch with you. Then we could build a mead hall or something...keep up the low tolerance for bullshit friend, honestly I have found that on a daily basis everyone and everything is trying to take advantage of me and rip me off...and if I act angry and have a short fuse is the only time they actually take me seriously.
/r/MensRights23/11/13 05:16 AM
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Commenting to see later
/r/TheRedPill21/11/13 03:11 AM
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That's what I've never understood. How exactly is it going to harm real victims by making sure that false accusers of any crime are also punished...
/r/MensRights18/11/13 07:28 PM
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Unfortunately this is one of those "just do it" situations. There is no trick, there is no incredibly confidence booster other than doing. You know this...
/r/seduction12/11/13 05:15 AM
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Agreed. I think this explains why men seem to be more logical. I don't think it's because men as a gender simply are more in tune with logic and reason, but because if we weren't nothing we said or did would have value and no one would pay attention.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 04:04 PM
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The last quote really bothers me, because all these years I thought my opinion was given weight because I am a human, not because I happen to be male.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 03:29 PM
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It's not even that, it's that they just don't care what men have to say at all. The odd thing is it's so blatant in this article. If you are an expert in your field and you disagree with what a woman has said regarding your field (or she explained that it's what she felt like) you need to just shut it, even if you are an expert with 30 years experience. That's why I can't take feminism seriously, objectivity and facts seem to matter less and less as time goes on.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 03:26 PM
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That, in my opinion, if the current downfall of feminism. There was a lot of things I think most of us supported (to the degree that it was fair for men as well) in 1st and even 2nd wave feminism. The third 'wave' isn't really a wave, it's a million tiny waves coming from every direction for almost any reason. There is no feminism anymore, only feminisms.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 03:23 PM
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No, it isn't an underlying truth because we are in a subreddit specifically created for those of us who already believe that - your comment has a lot of truth to it, but it doesn't discuss the article, it doesn't explain how/why in this situation, it doesn't really add anything to the conversation or the overall community. What it ends up looking like is either a giant circlejerk or a comment made simply to garner a few upvotes.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 06:00 AM
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TIL, thanks :) - though I believe that cowing is acceptable as well, as a verb it is defined as "cause (someone) to submit to one's wishes by intimidation."
/r/MensRights07/11/13 04:40 AM
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That was so difficult to just skim. I could barely read the main points, but suffice to say it makes so little sense it doesn't even require an in-depth refutation, or even a simple point-counterpoint refutation. This isn't a list of how to be a better male feminists, it's a list of how to be used, how to lose all self respect, how to not have an opinion, and how to support a cause that is not about you and doesn't really want your opinion - made crystal clear in point 5: This is our movement. W…
/r/MensRights07/11/13 04:37 AM
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This comment serves no purpose, offers no criticism, no solutions, and no real thoughts. It's worthless, and personally I'm sick of seeing it in most threads on MR these days. Post something meaningful, or at least something that doesn't make us look like a bunch of teenagers.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 04:21 AM
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You've completely missed the point. By a lot. She isn't a role model because she enjoys being those things. She is a role model because she supports personal freedom and responsibility and not being shamed (or cowing to that shame when it does happen) for being yourself and doing what you want.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 04:13 AM
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I'm getting really tired of seeing this completely unhelpful and uncritical comment being upvoted so much. It isn't constructive and brings nothing to the table other than making us all look bad.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 04:10 AM
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Well...it changes my view of her in the sense that I no longer think she is a complete and utter moron. Instead, I now think she is a complete and utter moron except when it comes to the fact that she knows how to interpret statistical data without letting it get to her feelz.
/r/MensRights24/10/13 04:45 PM
2

Yea that lady screaming at the beginning was crazy, I almost closed the video 20 seconds in because of that nonsense
/r/MensRights24/10/13 04:44 PM
11

God I hate Ann Coulter's political views so much it hurts, I think she is a complete and utter moron who has no grasp of foreign policy or the way the world actually works in the political sphere... so it makes it that much harder for me to sit there and nod my head and think that Ann is the only person on that video making any amount of sense...damn...I can't hate her senselessly anymore :/
/r/MensRights24/10/13 04:41 PM
1

I think this guy is right, but at the same time it feels as if he is putting motherhood on this pedestal of what it means in a vacuum without fatherhood. Probably not his intent, but there it is...
/r/MensRights24/10/13 04:21 PM
2

I believe they said teenage, and unless which means someone is in their teens...
/r/MensRights19/10/13 03:08 PM
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Poor guy, I just don't see how anyone could see someone that old being assaulted and not do anything. It's like if a child was being assaulted, at that age no one can really defend themselves.
/r/MensRights19/10/13 03:08 PM
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In Europe, the . and , symbols have a reverse meaning. Thus: €1.000,02 is equivalent to $1,000.02
/r/MensRights19/10/13 03:03 PM
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Uhh what? How am I a brigader? Check out my comment history, I am pretty avid supporter of the MRM and banned from /r/feminism haha
/r/MensRights18/10/13 05:37 PM
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I'm not certain that undermine is the right word, he simply pointed out their lack of experience in reporting pieces of depth. This isn't undermining someone, it's rhetorically asking if the journalists are reputable sources. I would agree that the refutation of just the authors reliability on these issues is weak, but seeing as how the article continues on I would say it was a fairly complete refutation of the reputability and reliability of 20/20 and the journalists. Also be of note that sarca…
/r/MensRights18/10/13 02:51 AM
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Can you tell me where the ad hominem is that you see? As far as I can tell, it was simply strongly worded critique, no personal insults of any kind. Taking account of the experience of journalists is common place, and sarcastically asking whether or not they sound qualified may be in bad taste (imo) but it isn't an ad hominem - in fact, the sarcastic tone continue throughout the entire piece. Personally, that type of writing bothers me because I feel it comes across as unprofessional and juvenil…
/r/MensRights18/10/13 02:27 AM
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You need to create a balance between flair and actual usability and ability to inform. You upped the flair too much, and made it nearly impossible to actually acquire more than a few tidbits of information. Keep trying though, I like the idea.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 05:45 PM
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OHHH NOOOOO!!! POOR GIRL!!!! Really, that's all I could think while skimming this article. What a poor girl, pooooor girl, how could this happen to her???? She worked hard for that money damnit! oh nooooooo
/r/MensRights12/10/13 02:56 PM
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You're a troll bc you objected without making any specific points or actual refutations in any of your posts in this thread.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/13 02:17 PM
1

Defense mechanism, it helps them rationalize not being hit on at all...poor fat girls
/r/TheRedPill10/10/13 02:33 PM
1

According to Merriam-Webster a slave is either: 1- someone who is legally owned by another person and is forced to work for that person without pay 2 - a person who is strongly influenced and controlled by something If the government takes 30% of someones income because they have an obligation or a debt to pay then no, I don't think that person is a slave. If I crash into someones car, I am financially liable for that and I believe that it's alright for the authorities to force those who have th…
/r/MensRights09/10/13 10:56 PM
1

No. The social contract includes the basic foundations and operational requirements of a government. In the US, that would mean taxes, the bill of rights and other amendments. It includes institutions like the congress, the presidency, the court system, as well as the IRS and state ministry, etc. It is everything required for the operation of the government. The idea is that when a government is initially established, everyone (ideally) is involved and thus compromises are made to which all part…
/r/MensRights09/10/13 10:08 PM
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Taxes are not involuntary, they are part of the social contract agreed to by those who govern and those who are governed.
/r/MensRights09/10/13 05:23 PM
1

I didn't really get that that from the article, nor have I ever seen someone (feminist or otherwise) suggest it was primarily the boys' fault. The only thing I have seen brought up in relation to the boys is peer pressure on the girls to do so from both boys and girls, which is certainly true.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 08:56 PM
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Hmmm...good for the girl for standing up, but this is only tangentially related to MR, if that...
/r/MensRights26/09/13 05:05 PM
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This is so standard - I have been called a misogynist so many times it makes me laugh, and half the time I stop the conversation and say, "What? Tell me exactly how what I said means I hate women." Never once have I gotten a response, usually they just say sorry or stop talking, it's a shaming tactic clear and simple.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/13 05:50 PM
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It's so hard for me to not say "Yea, except for that nature made men stronger, larger, faster - it's almost like nature intended for men to be able to catch women and force themselves upon them" - I've never had the nerve to say it to someone who thinks this way, but one day...one day, I hope the satire will make them think for a second about how ridiculous they are...
/r/MensRights13/09/13 03:25 PM
1

lol so everything else you agree with or...? and why not? You already said that you agreed that men are more physically capable in most instances - I say it's ipso facto because hey, more people watch male sports, even when a female version of the sport exists...do you have any reason to not think it's correct other than you don't want it to be?
/r/MensRights12/09/13 02:29 AM
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Of course men are (in most respects) more physically capable than women. But it doesn't follow that this physical difference is the cause of the pay gap. That's because you have not followed this line of thinking to its logical conclusion, allow me to help. Men are more physically capable then women in nearly all athletics Because men happen to be the pinnacle of athletic performance, more people are likely to watch the male version of the sport (ipso facto) More people are watching male sports,…
/r/MensRights11/09/13 07:42 PM
1

Woah woah woah! No need to bash the marxists! Especially when your view of what marxism is, is factually incorrect. Marxists believe in a sustainable baseline wage and worker control over the factors of the production. That doesn't mean everyone gets paid the same no matter what.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 07:19 PM
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WHAT TO REMEMBER: a statistical link is not a causal link. For example, the number of telephone poles in a city is directly correlated to the number of homicides - it basically means nothing, as does this study.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 03:24 AM
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My understanding is that this post was about tickets to some sort of concert, where the main activity is not hitting on girls but listening to good music? I like concerts, and I like going with my friends - why should I have to pay more?
/r/MensRights08/09/13 04:00 PM
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Tell me more about how you prioritize your life on women, and how poor men shouldn't be allowed to go have fun in nice places 'because their poor'...classy...
/r/MensRights08/09/13 03:34 PM
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That's the same kind of argument made by crazy surveillance state supporters right now. The NSA is doing a good job, and I WANT to be more safe, so just think of it as the government trying to protect us, it's better for everybody. /s What it actually ends up meaning is that I can't afford to go at all...
/r/MensRights08/09/13 03:13 PM
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The reason for doing it might have nothing to do with discrimination, but it's still discrimination regardless of the motive.
/r/MensRights08/09/13 02:51 PM
2

Yea - even split up both woman came forth and said he was just a sperm donor and never ever had any contact with the child. I believe they even had a contract drawn up and notarized but the judge said it didn't matter. WTF...I'll never donate sperm...though I am considering having a vasectomy done, and I might freeze some of my swimmers just in case haha
/r/askTRP07/09/13 10:35 PM
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what about men with children? I feel they go looking for single mothers sometimes...
/r/TheRedPill05/09/13 03:21 PM
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I see that line of 'intimidating' because they have been successful to be a huge pat on the back that helps them deal with being alone.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/13 02:48 PM
2

Yep...I've brought this up several times to my mother, her response (shortened): because
/r/MensRights31/08/13 09:32 PM
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"seems to have abdicated his responsibility (as a man -- not a celebrity) to model respectable behavior towards women." I'll never understand why I am expected to treat all women everywhere with respect when no such requirement is placed on them to treat me with respect...
/r/MensRights31/08/13 03:22 PM
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Just keep in mind there is a difference between a 'men's barber shop' and 'men only barber shop' - one is catering to a type of haircut, and the other is trying to create a male-only atmosphere (as the barber expressed in the article).
/r/MensRights27/08/13 03:38 PM
1

Really? Do you think all female-only spaces are horrible and need to go away? I feel like most of us here actually think female-only spaces are perfectly acceptable and actually serve a purpose. The problem is that so many people, apparently yourself included, don't think that male-only spaces are ever acceptable.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 03:35 PM
1

Here's the only question that matters: Are female-only spaces allowed in Ontario? If so, then male-only spaces, regardless of their function, should be allowed as well.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 03:32 PM
1

Yeaaa no. Fox news has not been probed to be neutral...the only thing really proved about fox news, is that its viewers are the most consistently misinformed of any group of news viewers.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 03:12 PM
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This motivates the hell out of me bro, thanks!
/r/seduction21/08/13 05:56 PM
1

Great!
/r/MensRights21/08/13 05:34 PM
2

Exactly! My friend and I always remark upon how their isn't such a thing as 'feminism', rather there are 'feminisms' which basically correlate to however any person wants to define it.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 05:34 PM
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Swedes can be super crazy - I went out with a group of friends, we were all drinking and having a good time and a Swedish girl came with us. Being pretty drunk, I tell distasteful jokes: "I love eastern European women, but man do they hit a wall at 30." Yes, distasteful, but it was perfectly acceptable in the group we were in, and the jokes everyone else was telling. She lost her shit, said it was a horrible opinion to have and wouldn't let it go - everyone was getting embarrassed and uncomforta…
/r/MensRights18/08/13 04:45 PM
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What kind of man would ever wear that...not only would I never, but if a girlfriend/wife ever bought that for me thinking it was funny I would probably lose it...
/r/MensRights18/08/13 04:40 PM
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Best. Username. Ever! - and it gives the advice of a shirt-ripped Shatner, keep up the good work.
/r/askTRP16/08/13 03:11 PM
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Yes yes, America is super good at making sure the constitution isn't violated! looks over at Obama and PRISM real good!
/r/MensRights10/08/13 11:17 PM
1

My understanding is that just saying 'no' is not only a defensive reaction, but it doesn't help lay the ground work for more flirting and teasing IE escalation.
/r/askTRP03/08/13 03:43 AM
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"Only on Tuesdays" with a smirk How's that? Edit: New to the RP and game...so far it just seems like I should take almost nothing they say seriously, and tease them often until the sexual tension is quite high, then maybe tone down the teasing to something more...sensual...
/r/askTRP03/08/13 12:59 AM
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No shit - which is why the they come and post, and then upvote each other: so they can point to comments with votes back at SRS and say "Look how horrible these MR guys are" - the point is to make us look bad, and unfortunately we really do need to care about PR.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 02:03 PM
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Obvious troll is obvious. Come on OP, how could you really have been duped that easily - you're better than that.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 02:01 AM
1

Is there an actual link to a readable form of the study?
/r/MensRights25/07/13 07:11 PM
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What the literal fuck are you talking about?
/r/MensRights25/07/13 02:15 AM
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If you can't present those options There are many other options that can be presented, I just don't think they are as ideal. You could just live with your mom, you could just ignore the mother and keep acting how you normally act, you could talk to the kid and tell him that it isn't ok, etc etc etc. Hence false dichotomy, even if he did present what I consider to be the best two options. It was strange, because his first post = a false dichotomy, and his second post was him observing that middle…
/r/MensRights22/07/13 03:09 PM
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Agreed. Really the horrible thing is that when men do all this stuff to protect themselves, then it becomes justified when a mother says her son hugging that man is odd, because it is odd, because it rarely ever happens. There are few choices, and all of them are lacking.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 03:28 AM
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Honestly I have no idea, which is why I didn't include a suggestion in my post. I even think that giegerwasright is correct, and that those are the best two options. All I said was that presenting them as the only options was a false dichotomy, and that by saying 'why do half measures?' he was suggesting that everything else must be on the spectrum between them. Again though, tbh I think his solutions are likely the ones to best protect yourself - though probably not the best for life. I mean, l…
/r/MensRights22/07/13 03:05 AM
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Because you've presented a false dichotomy while assuming that any other possible solutions are half measures somewhere on the spectrum you presented.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 01:09 AM
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Fuck me I couldn't even read the entire thing, what the fuck is wrong with people. I don't even understand it, not only do they try to rationalize being a fatty, but they try to demonize the skinny hot girls...I don't even know what to say...
/r/TheRedPill15/07/13 04:06 AM
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Agreed 100% - but why then are women and men paid the same when men's sport bring in DRASTICALLY bigger audiences, who pay more. Hell the Wimbledon final for women cost 1000, and for the men it cost near 4000, but they were paid the same? I agree that the market should determine the pay, but that is not what is happening.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 04:33 AM
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Really? How old are you? Do you have a job? There are several studies done showing that those who are considered 'more attractive' than average are also treated better, paid better, get better jobs, etc. by the majority on average. (I'm off to bed, but if you want links to the studies pm me and ill hit you up in the AM) Looks will always matter, how you present yourself will always matter. I don't think it's the most important thing, sure, but it will always have some bearing at some point no ma…
/r/MensRights13/07/13 04:30 AM
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looks shouldn't matter Shouldn't? Sure. Reality is a bitch though, because they matter in all walks of life.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 04:09 AM
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Reality, rationality, and practicality have no place here! /s
/r/MensRights13/07/13 04:08 AM
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For me, healthcare should be universal and it should be paid for by the government like in Europe. Alas, we must deal with insurance. I also agree people shouldn't be priced out of the market, but what about a difference that is affordable? Say men pay $100 for health insurance and women pay $110? Both are affordable, no one is being priced so heavily they can't afford it, instead they are being priced slightly different due to the reality of the differences in health care needs - would you thin…
/r/MensRights10/07/13 05:45 PM
1

Why? Why should healthcare premiums be blind? Luckily for us we have only two genders, so it wouldn't be that hard to make a female plan and a male plan that covers the specific needs of each - as well as costs the appropriate amount based on the real likelihood of someone using certain benefits. I am all for equal rights, but not this absolute equality in all areas because we are all different. While I certainly understand the argument that it isn't fair to charge women more simply because it c…
/r/MensRights10/07/13 04:01 PM
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I just read the bolded 5 points...all of them have such huge problems it wasn't worth it to read. Hell, the first one says there is no moral argument against feminism. I mean, I could get it if he said there are several moral arguments (as well as practical) against feminism but he disagrees and here is why. But no, no discussion really wanted over there.
/r/MensRights07/07/13 03:38 PM
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This just makes no sense...violence against women isn't 'epidemic', violence against people is epidemic. I also believe that any real look into the genders of victims will show that far and away men are the victims of the majority of violence.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 11:04 PM
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I agree it may be reckless and dangerous - but how is it immature? People do all sorts of reckless and dangerous things, are all of them considered immature? My professor is 75, has a Ph.D and used to be a regional director for the IMF and he smokes a pipe, which is also dangerous to himself and others - is it immature to do dangerous things?
/r/MensRights13/06/13 02:39 AM
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Yea that is fucking crazy...I mean sure, I agree with a good deal...but numbers 3, 4, 6, 9, 12, 18, 20, 22, 23, 24, and 27 basically amount "I wish they wouldn't do it" or "I wish they would do what I want" and have nothing to do with maturity...ughhh whatever
/r/MensRights12/06/13 03:30 AM
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Why are you fine with it? What about the human right of self determination? What about my body my choice? Just curious
/r/MensRights11/06/13 05:19 PM
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The problem - can it be proven she was lying? Maybe she really did think it was boyfriend X instead of boyfriend Y....I mean...I dunno, the punishment I suppose should be the same as whatever the punishment for fraud is, as that's basically what it is.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 04:39 AM
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Who cares? This has nothing to do with mensrights, who cares at all if on TV they have started to realize that women also like looking at pretty members of the opposite sex. Posts like these are why people come on here and think we are just blowing steam.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:31 AM
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Using prosecution data to estimate the occurrence of a crime doesn't really work that way though - it fails to take into account all those who were not prosecuted, as well as those who were wrongfully prosecuted - this is why we don't base our homicide data on the number of convictions we get for homicide - but rather on how many murders actually occurred. Rape is obviously more difficult, due to the great possibility of non-reporting and false allegations, but that doesn't mean that prosecutori…
/r/MensRights27/05/13 03:47 PM
1

For me, the most striking thing about this statistic: rape, when diffused by gender, is closer to parity than the graduation rate from college. Wow.
/r/MensRights19/05/13 02:18 AM
2

You sir, are a scholar and a gentlemen.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 04:02 PM
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Oh, I think I can fathom, as I experienced similar glee at the initial reference ;) - shall we continue on for 1000 posts upvoting each other for karma now? sounds good to me anyways...
/r/MensRights01/05/13 03:32 PM
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Yea I know what you mean...I don't think I've said something like that since my brother stole my gameboy when I was seven...but yea...this deserves that kind of response I think. What Varys did takes so long though...plus I don't think Deutschland has a small council for me to become the spider of...oh well...
/r/MensRights01/05/13 03:24 PM
2

Agreed...there are very few things that I can think of that would realistically drive me to murder someone, cutting of my penis is one of them...
/r/MensRights01/05/13 02:51 PM
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Yup. Apparently the notion of pleasure, leisure, and enjoyment are all patriarchy, and thus men shouldn't have any of them, unless of course a woman feels good about it.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 06:12 PM
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My thoughts exactly! The best part is that not a single one of them thought that maybe, just maybe, there exist systematic pressures against men. Basically the sum of their thought is that women are doing good because women do good, and men are doing bad because they have a lack of motivation, self-discipline, and enjoy video games.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 02:45 PM
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Exactly this - the very idea of the mancave is offensive.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 04:59 AM
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But do you understand why people are trying to limit it? It isn't about women's rights, which most feminists don't seem to understand. It's about a very fundamental, moral, and ethical question of: when we consider a fetus human life? - just because women carry/care for the child 9 months longer doesn't mean they get a monopoly on the answer to this question. The question matters, because then we have to ask when does a fetus have rights? For example, I think once brain waves are detected at or …
/r/MensRights30/03/13 04:35 AM
1

:) I actually think that feminism at one time was a great thing, and had a very noble goal. I just happen to think that for the most part, those goals (equal rights, equal opportunity, the right to vote, the right to work (which honestly, as Martin Luther King Jr. said: "The right to work is a farce, as it confers no rights and no works" paraphrased) The problem is that institutions and organizations are inherently interested in their survival, as such they become part of the problem in order to…
/r/MensRights21/03/13 06:02 PM
1

sigh it's almost as if you have given no thought or empathy to the other side - I will respond just this last time, because I am growing weary of this conversation. but it can be cultured through legislation This is called indoctrination, brainwashing, etc. I am against it in all forms. relegate the majority of famous women to a single month They aren't 'relegated to single month' it is a celebration of them during a single month yes - but many of these 'famous women' didn't actually do somethin…
/r/MensRights21/03/13 05:36 PM
1

We have to differentiate between cultural equality and legal/rights equality. In the US, and in the west in general, men and women have almost cultural and legal equality - except in those two, very important areas I pointed out. Cultural equality is not something that can be legislated and forced upon society, as it is outside the realm of legal rights. I doubt cultural equality will ever really happen - some men will continue to only use women for sex and nothing else, and some women will only…
/r/MensRights21/03/13 02:34 PM
1

As to your first paragraph - please remember not everyone lives in America - Abortions in Germany and most of Europe are easily and readily accessible and often free. But your conflating two issues, and basically saying that unless we gain X, it is pointless to talk about Y, which is simply not true. Also, you often see protests and demonstrations by feminists that include men, rarely do you see feminists protesting or demonstrating for mensrights. Personally, I feel that women already have equa…
/r/MensRights21/03/13 06:12 AM
1

I really have no idea how often you read this subreddit, because it cannot be often - virtually every person on here believes abortion and contraceptives should be readily available up to a point (that is, abortion cannot occur after the fetus is legally considered a human and has rights of its own - but that is a different discussion). I use the word whim because the male has virtually no say whatsoever on anything about it. It is at her whim, and simply because you believe that women don't mak…
/r/MensRights21/03/13 04:23 AM
1

Why not get rid of it completely? Women have an assortment of contraceptives, abortion, adoption, and legal maternal surrender. What this means is that women don't simply 'get pregnant' anymore, they 'allow themselves to become and stay pregnant' - it's a choice. Why not simply say "Hey ladies, you have complete control over your reproductive system and as such have complete responsibility for when/if you choose to have a child" ? Why make men a group affected by the whimsy of women, when no suc…
/r/MensRights21/03/13 03:31 AM
1

Certainly - I meant that the best interests of children are not being served when mothers are allowed to give their children up for adoption, or utilize legal maternal surrender - so why are women and the courts using the argument that the reason men need to be pay child support for a child they never wanted, is that the best interests of the child are paramount. So - women can do these things, which are not in the best interest of the child, and men are forced to financially support their child…
/r/MensRights20/03/13 06:27 PM
1

The choice is a woman's within certain bounds - if we as a society decide that at the second trimester it is considered a human, with it's own inalienable rights, then a woman does not get to decide to terminate it. She can, of course, decide to terminate before, and it is her choice, and I agree no one could force her into a decision otherwise if it is before we consider the fetus a human. It is when we consider a fetus a human, that question, that women don't get to decide without any input fr…
/r/MensRights20/03/13 05:30 PM
1

On abortion I actually agree with you, personally. However, when people act like there is a 'war on women' because some people want to talk about it is ridiculous. It isn't about women's rights, it's about the philosophical, moral, and ethical question of when we consider a fetus a human being, and despite what women think - just because they carry the fetus for 9 months doesn't entitle them to a monopoly on this extremely important question. Personally, for me, once it has brain waves I would c…
/r/MensRights20/03/13 02:23 PM
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Because it's not about equality for them, it's about 'whose at fault' - more commonly known as 'the blame game'. hence the existence of egalitarianism.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 03:47 AM
3

Pretty sure that's just standard sexual harassment? I mean, if I rubbed my glorious man juice on my girfriends mother - not rape - just sexual harassment (and stupid as fuck)
/r/MensRights20/03/13 03:37 AM
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I'm pretty sure you've already answered this question for yourself.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 03:31 AM
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What is your definition of value? For me, it is too vague. I am German, and we have two words: Gleicheit (equality) and Gleichberechtigung (equal rights) - I am for equal rights, I am for equal opportunity, I am an egalitarian. I am not for equality, because we are all different, we all have different skills and differently levels of value in given situations. The only area where 'humans have equal value' is in a purely academic area (I agree though, to be clear)
/r/MensRights20/03/13 03:26 AM
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Women have equal work for equal pay, surely you have seen the CONSAD report, funded by the US gov't and widely accepted academically the destroys the myth that women make less due to discrimination. Surely you have read that NOW has actively campaigned against research into domestic violence perpetrated by females against males. Surely you know that NOW has actively discouraged male specific domestic violence shelters. Surely you realize that abortions, despite what women want, are a huge moral …
/r/MensRights20/03/13 03:17 AM
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The definition of equal is: "Adjective Being the same in quantity, size, degree, or value. Noun A person or thing considered to be the same as another in status or quality." By definition, men and women are not equal in many things. In academics, we are supposed to try to be as specific as possible. So while men and women are not equal, I do think men and women should have equal rights and opportunities.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 03:11 AM
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Seriously, this test is flawed: Question one: Do you think all human beings are equal? I clicked no, and they linked to the UN - all I wanted to do was send them a link about sexual dimorphism. Question two is fucking stupid.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 10:22 PM
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Your satirical and sarcastic tone is awesome! I read the first part and was like "WTF - how are women 'more capable'? - then I saw the 'Got it?' hahahha
/r/MensRights14/03/13 07:53 PM
2

...I'm pretty sure that mothers are also more likely to murder their child than the father...
/r/MensRights14/03/13 07:47 PM
1

...in some states the father can't? Do you know which ones? That's crazy if they can't... So on reproductive rights...basically it boils down to number of contraceptive options, abortion, and the ability to make a man a father if he doesn't want to...not child support (I mean...if he can get the child and demand child support, that seems equal to me...)
/r/MensRights14/03/13 07:41 PM
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Correct me if I am wrong, but if a mother abandons her child can the father not take the child and demand child support?
/r/MensRights14/03/13 03:40 PM
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No worries, too bad about not feeling welcome here. I think that it pops up so often (hence why it's on the sidebar) that we get a little frustrated when people continually ask week after week after week. Stick around, we really are a generally friendly bunch. Anyways - good luck.
/r/MensRights09/03/13 12:43 AM
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Easy there buddy, no need to get so fired up...this study, funded by the US Dept. of Labor and done by CONSAD is excellent for two reasons: 1 - it dispells the 70 cents to the dollar myth, and 2 - the remaining miniscule disparity of around 97 cents is directly correlated (causal) to personal choices that men and women both make (for instance, men make up 95% of over time hours, and women on average choose to stay out of the workforce for 5 years after child birth). http://consad.com/index.php?p…
/r/MensRights09/03/13 12:26 AM
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You're not being shit on mate, but you're coming on here asking us for sources, when all of the sources are easily viewable even on a phone on the sidebar. That isn't being shit on. It would have taken less time to look at the sidebar than make this post.
/r/MensRights09/03/13 12:21 AM
5

Eh, both are wrong. Having it outlawed for one gender is a giant unequal step in the right direction.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 03:51 PM
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I suppose that's true, we all take on whatever risk we are comfortable with.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 02:34 PM
1

That's a bit extreme don't you think? The entire gender isn't bad just because of a few bad apples.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 04:58 AM
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This should be used in schools to teach people about what a straw man is!
/r/MensRights18/02/13 12:36 AM
2

Thanks, I appreciate that. Though I think /r/mensrights is actually full of people like me to be honest.
/r/MensRights15/02/13 09:17 PM
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You're wrong. Despite my personal dislike (as well as yours I take it) for feminism, it is widely respected in social culture. Comparing it to feminism in this way not only helps lend credibility to our cause, but allows those who don't think mensrights is necessary to see it in a different light, especially when such a glaring example as forced selective service sign up for voting for men and not women is presented.
/r/MensRights14/02/13 06:09 PM
1

That's too bad - but still, I find this is generally a tactful way to even start a discussion about mensrights without people putting up a wall (at least not as quickly lol) Either way, good luck to you.
/r/MensRights13/02/13 08:15 PM
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Sometimes it is about how you frame the issue. For example, if I was going to try to describe mensrights, I would say: Mens Rights is, much like feminism, a community dedicated to equality, but with a specific focus on the issues men face, where feminism has a specific focus on the issues women face. For example, both genders can vote, but only men have a conditional right to vote based on their signing up for the selective service. it may be a bit much to say or put on a flier, but I have found…
/r/MensRights13/02/13 03:57 PM
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"de·serve /dəˈzərv/ Verb Do something or have or show qualities worthy of (reward or punishment). Synonyms merit - earn - rate - be worth" I don't think simply existing as a female qualifies.
/r/MensRights05/02/13 11:08 PM
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Hmmm....I'm not completely sold on this idea, as it still seems to be a fair bit of speculative argument, reminiscent of a straw man...but I do agree with you...just hesitant to do so...
/r/MensRights03/02/13 09:06 PM
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I don't want to answer for her, but it seems that patriarchy theory is intrinsic to feminism (I could be wrong). If that is the case then the statement "this is feminism taken to it's logical conclusion" would still be accurate. It isn't stating that feminism is logical but if you accept patriarchy theory then you could reach extermination as a solution, logically. Certainly, but stating that 'this is the logical end of feminism/patriarchy theory' seems to imply that there are no other proposed …
/r/MensRights03/02/13 09:00 PM
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Ok...can you walk me through how modern feminism logically leads to this, without your argument being a straw man? It just isn't clicking in my head....
/r/MensRights03/02/13 08:43 PM
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Wait wait, I'm confused now. I get that some mainstream feminists have said these things (thank you for informing me of them), and I get that it didn't lead to their utter ruination in academia or greater feminist community. But you think these people's thoughts on patriarchy theory were the logical ones? Again, extreme, but not logical (in my opinion).
/r/MensRights03/02/13 08:40 PM
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Can you point me in the direction of an academic feminists (or any mainstream, high profile feminist) who have proposed the elimination of men? Is there any data of % of feminists who have said and believe this to validate whether or not this should be considered a straw man? I'm not saying you're wrong - but lets not fall to confirmation bias much like the author of this obscene article has throughout. I am certain my knowledge of patriarchy theory is deficient. So can you perhaps enlighten me …
/r/MensRights03/02/13 06:55 PM
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No, it's feminism taken to it's most extreme, sure. Not logical. If one of us wrote this, and claimed it was feminism (or the logical conclusion of feminism) it would rightly be considered a straw man.
/r/MensRights03/02/13 05:43 PM
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This is just as wrong. The answer should be "whichever way I can save the most". 100 women, 101 men --> save the men. 101 women, 100 men --> save the women.
/r/MensRights02/02/13 09:21 AM
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How interesting. I know I've seen headlines like this where the attackers are men, but they would read "Two men attacks girl." So, whenever women do decent normal things or are in harms way, they are specifically called women or girls, but when they do something bad they suddenly become neutral 'adults' (sort of like men who die for almost any reason - soldiers/firefighers/etc.)
/r/MensRights20/01/13 05:50 AM
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Not really sure why you posted this, but the comments section on the article linked discusses quite handily the fact that the men have a viewership much greater than the women's team --> more revenues, better known, etc. Which in my opinion easily dismisses any claims of discrimination due to gender.
/r/MensRights17/01/13 03:51 PM
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Oh I agree about that group they are way off the edge, I was more referring to feminists in general --> perhaps that's why I've been downvoted.
/r/MensRights17/01/13 10:20 AM
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I don't even know what to say after watching that..........................
/r/MensRights17/01/13 10:18 AM
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Ehh, I'm sure some are that and some aren't. (EDIT: Feminists in general that is, this femitheist group seems fucking nuts) It's like these people think they have a right not to be offended and to never hear things they disagree with or hate. They confuse me lol
/r/MensRights17/01/13 06:38 AM
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I've never heard that asserted by mainstream feminists/academics. The argument has always been that women have the right to participate, and in sports I agree. In the military/police/fire I disagree (I think for obvious reasons). We should try to focus on the mainstream and not radfems (who are already nuts, and closed to dissenting opinions and conversations) I feel like this post makes us look like we are saying "we are better than you haha"
/r/MensRights17/01/13 06:30 AM
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Funny, but I'm trying to understand how this relates to MR... Are you saying that because they lost to boys they don't deserve to have a team and compete? Are you just giving more evidence that men/boys are generally stronger and more athletic? We aren't anti-female, and we aren't pro male, we are pro equal rights...so again...how does this relate in anyway other than to make fun of some girls?
/r/MensRights17/01/13 06:13 AM
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WOW!!! "The line between activism & terrorism is being tested & the MRA/MRM seem to have a foot in both sectors." Since when did the MRM have a foot into terrorism? How do these people not realize that what they are asking for is censorship because they don't like what someone is saying...either they are daft, or have no respect for the freedoms that millions of people have fought and died for over the centuries.
/r/MensRights17/01/13 06:10 AM
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I feel like part of the problem is so many men let it get this bad. Most likely this lady didn't just wake up one day and start treating him like an inferior piece of shit. More likely, she did it and he took it for a long time. Men, especially young men (like yours truly) really need to learn to accept red flags no matter how sexy or fun a girl can be.
/r/MensRights16/01/13 03:31 PM
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Why does this matter at all? What he said was factual, and said with flair, nothing more and nothing less. This is another thing I don't like that women always do when they are offended but know I am right: your tone was rude, you were too blunt, my feelings hurt, etc.
/r/MensRights01/01/13 04:56 AM
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That article was filled with male shaming tactics, conservative ideology, and half of the statistics were either inaccurate or irrelevant.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 04:51 PM
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I really don't understand the people defending her. Do people not realize that sex offenders don't think they are doing anything wrong? They think it is perfectly acceptable to do something like this. They don't have to want to fuck the kid in order to be a sex offender, and it's important we stand up and say NO, this type of behavior is NOT acceptable, and you will be punished if you choose to do so. I would be equally as upset if a man did this to a 10 year old girl or boy, he should be charge…
/r/MensRights16/12/12 04:47 PM
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Equality isn't my goal sir, maybe it's yours. I want equal rights and equal treatment under the law. That is it. Nothing more, nothing less. We are not all equal, we are not all the same, situations vary, and people have different strengths and weaknesses and it's is perfectly ok to say that. This isn't a witch hunt for women, it's striving to have all peoples seen equally under the law. Oh, and even if a man did this and wasn't charged, he should be! This act most certainly meets the definition…
/r/MensRights16/12/12 04:45 PM
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Did you not read my earlier post above? The crime of sexual assault, legally in the US despite whether we agree if it should or not, includes: unwelcome exposure of another's body, exhibitionism, or voyeurism. That is exactly what happened, and as I said in a different thread, this is not how I want it to be but it is necessary. Not until women are forced to undergo the same treatment as men will we ever have real change in this area. Women are given the benefit of the doubt, men are not, and wo…
/r/MensRights16/12/12 12:52 PM
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No, I don't think you are right on this. Either someone commits sexual assault or not. There may be different 'degree's like with murder, but intent doesn't absolve them of the crime.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 12:13 PM
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I really do understand what you're getting at, and I agree. However, that being said, part of the solution (in my opinion) is forcing women to undergo the same treatment as men as they obviously can't, or refuse to, empathize with men in those situations. You can bet your ass that if this were a male teacher and a female student, very few people, if anyone at all, would actually be understanding like you are being right now. You are correct, but unfortunately that isn't enough, and it doesn't he…
/r/MensRights16/12/12 12:11 PM
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Exactafuckingly!!!!!
/r/MensRights16/12/12 01:06 AM
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unfair accusal? What the hell are you talking about, this actually fucking happened, she admitted to it. She wasn't accused of sexually molesting a child, she sexually molested a child and doesn't deny. She just has an excuse, a pussy pass.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 01:04 AM
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You're right, no one cares was too much, but it seems that few care and it really bothers me. I hope it changes.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 09:09 PM
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I get what you're saying, but does intent in this case actually matter? If I am walking behind a girl, and reach to grab her by the shoulder and get pushed by the crowd and accidentally touch her boob, that to me is where intent matters. If I strip down a 10 year old girl to her panties because I think she stole $20, or stole my dead great grandfathers watch, does it matter what my intent was? No. Also, be aware that the crime of sexual assault includes: unwelcome exposure of another's body, exh…
/r/MensRights15/12/12 08:39 PM
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It's the same when it comes to circumcision and boys. Apparently the legal/human rights scholars in the US have forgotten about self determination, and the fact that parents do not own their child, they are custodians of another human until they reach age, nothing more and nothing less. But because it is a boy being harmed (and in this case a woman doing the harming) no one cares.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 08:31 PM
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Holy freaking fuck! How is she not in a jail cell, let alone still have a job. "Any staff member who has ever worked with me knows that I care for my students and that even when I have to discipline them, I love them.” Right, that's why. She has already given her womanly excuse and it was readily accepted by nearly everyone. I don't want to turn this into one of those "if a man did it..." things, but let's be realistic here. If a male principle of any age or background stripped a 10 year old gir…
/r/MensRights15/12/12 07:36 PM
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I know...I mean...there is a place for tact and wording things right, like boardrooms and political meetings -the internet isn't one of those places...I think anyways.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 05:20 PM
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I agree...I was in /r/sex and someone was talking about virginity and such. I suggest that the girl be on top so she can break herself in comfortable, and I got downvoted into oblivion because I was saying 'she is like a horse that needs to be broken in' -I mean...fuck...get over your sensitivity and discuss what is actually being said.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 12:50 PM
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So then the real goal should be barring mothers from legal maternal surrender without the consent of the father -not giving men the right to be equally shallow an despicable, no? (I am still in favor of legal paternal surrender...this is a good step, but only a step towards what I want)
/r/MensRights01/12/12 10:51 AM
2

If only we had equal rights sigh
/r/MensRights26/11/12 10:22 AM
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Oh yes, I have seen them all of course. I was just suggesting having the sources to the originals for people who have not seen them already, maybe some new people around :D
/r/MensRights22/11/12 03:11 PM
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If you can, find the original place these were posted and cite them as sources. Would greatly increase the effectiveness of this post!
/r/MensRights22/11/12 02:14 PM
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1 man 1 woman using one bathroom: 75% of possible bathroom usages require sitting. Put the seat down. Downvotes? I don't get why... Women sits down for #1 & #2 Man sits down for #2, stands for #1 75% of possibilities require the seat to be down (for most of us anyways) Why downvoted for that? Isn't that the most logical solution?
/r/MensRights21/11/12 08:54 PM
2

No problem and thanks, enjoy your evening bud ;)
/r/MensRights04/11/12 03:29 PM
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I don't get it. Vasectomy =/= Abortion. Vasectomy = Tubal Ligation. I don't believe anyone, anywhere, in any state of the US is questioning whether or not a woman should be allowed to do this. Abortion is a separate issue, and the objections are not 'woman shouldn't be able to control their bodies, but 'woman shouldn't be able to kill a human child' -I think we can all agree to that. the question is when does a fetus become a human. Females don't get a monopoly on the morality of this issue just…
/r/MensRights04/11/12 12:29 PM
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Oh nooooo! I didn't mean it like that. I mean, these women were trying to shame a disabled man into standing up and moving. Instead of listening to them at all he should have an ipod or something and just tune them out, and if they get catty or some white knight forcefully removes them or pulls on him then he has legal recourse...
/r/MensRights04/11/12 08:59 AM
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all I said was bring music so you don't have to listen to anyone else, and if they try and force you to by grabbing you or your headphones, call the police because technically it's assault. I'm kind of confused as to what exactly is rude or 'cuntish' about that.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 04:33 PM
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Me either...all I said was bring music so you don't have to listen to anyone else, and if they try and force you to by grabbing you or your headphones, call the police because technically it's assault. I'm kind of confused as to what exactly is rude or 'cuntish' about that.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 04:33 PM
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This is why I always bring headphones. Just turn up the volume, and if someone even touches you or your headphones to make you listen you phone the police for assault.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 09:45 AM
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I just had an epiphany, when fems tell me to 'man up', what they mean is caloric intake because of all the hard work I do. Wow. mind blown.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:18 PM
2

Chivalry favors the interests and comfort of women arbitrarily. Perfect explanation.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 01:04 PM
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Ha, that's actually kinda funny! You should have used your mandollars and bought every last cookie in one purchase, and then sat at a table next to theirs and reversed the prices!
/r/MensRights02/11/12 09:44 AM
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I've actually found a decent way of getting some people to actually think about this instead of the knee jerk reaction that it is different. First, ask if they believe mutilation of a human without their consent is wrong/horrible/disgusting/etc. Invariably you will get an 'of course' Second, point out how MGM is mutilation by definition and in developed countries amounts to cosmetic surgery. Sometimes you get 'but the parents rights to choose' bullshit. Point out that parents don't own their chi…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 09:40 AM
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'Tis a clever ruse we have devised
/r/MensRights24/10/12 06:57 AM
3

Aye!
/r/MensRights24/10/12 06:57 AM
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The only part I disagree with is the whole 'telling women not to dress immodestly insinuates men have no control etc.' - this is wrong. Telling women not to dress immodestly insinuates that rapists have no control, not men. If I told you not to walk down a certain dangerous alley at night because of muggers, it wouldn't imply that any person that is in that/any alley is a mugger and will mug you without restraint, it implies that muggers mug.
/r/MensRights11/10/12 06:43 AM
1

Why post this here?
/r/MensRights08/10/12 07:36 AM
9

You do realize the whole, men pee sitting down is a real thing. While not in force, the fact that it was even put forth as a motion is rather alarming and show the extent to which these feminists have misandry in their hearts.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 07:34 AM
1

True that. Freedom of speech ftw! We here are not fighting for censorship, but for social change and the striking down of real discriminatory laws and practices by government.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 07:32 AM
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That's what most people think when they teach their sons that you should never ever hit a girl, but it leads to an imbalance of respect because only one side of the equation is being looked at.
/r/MensRights05/10/12 12:31 AM
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I know you had to phrase it that way, not an attack on you, just an attack on general ignorance of people to the rules of argumentation and logic -a frustration I am sure you share. On how they defend this, in my experience they don't use evidence, and instead use definitions that are either non-standard, or have been changed over the years to fit with the feminist idea that sexism against men is 'by definition' impossible because the definition is tailored to their cause. It's like when feminis…
/r/MensRights04/10/12 10:22 PM
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While there is nothing wrong with the picture, I do understand why it bothers OP. Why are women singled out as needing respect, and why are men/boys singled out as needing to be taught this respect, and I have never seen the inverse in almost any sense. Besides,to me Respect is earned not taught/given and that is what boys/girls/everybody should be taught in my humble opinion. It is along the same lines of 'boys need to be taught it is never ever ok to hit a girl' -sure, nothing wrong with that …
/r/MensRights04/10/12 08:35 PM
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Interesting read, though I dislike the post title because of 'provide evidence showing that sexism against men does not exist'. It's like when debating about God and believers say that atheists need to prove god doesn't exist, which is wrong. Those making the positive assumption (IE believing in something, be it god or sexism against men/women) are required to provide evidence for that belief. And that is exactly what we do here at /MR, provide evidence to support the notion that sexism against …
/r/MensRights04/10/12 08:24 PM
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Real rape culture.
/r/MensRights04/10/12 08:15 PM
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Fun fact: Collective Punishments are a war crime according to the Geneva Convention So even if she was 100% sure a male took it, forcing the boys to stay (punishment) is wrong. Your teacher is: A. Sexist, and B. A war criminal
/r/MensRights02/10/12 07:58 AM
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I think you were right to confront her, but instead of engaging in a dialogue about male privilege and pointing out the double standard you should have said that if she didn't leave you would either contact management or the police because you view it is a breach of your privacy.
/r/MensRights02/10/12 07:53 AM
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This is completely right. Just recently I was talking to a feminist in a thread here on /MR and we went back and forth because she said that if a girl wakes up the next and 'feels raped' even if she went willingly or was even the sexual aggressor the night before, it is still rape because she felt raped. Crimes have nothing to do with how you feel after in my opinion.
/r/MensRights01/10/12 08:38 PM
1

Your reading comprehension must not very good, or perhaps you didn't even read the very short comment you are responding to? Good job PZ Myers.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 03:08 PM
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We really need more information than is given in the article. She says it was self defense because she was hit with a steel sauce pan. If she had some marking on her body or something, any evidence to suggest this then I would say it was self defense. If however, there was no evidence of her being hit by him, and she simply stabbed him because he was yelling, loud, or aggressive without making physical contact, then I think she should go to prison for murder. These types of articles always seem …
/r/MensRights28/09/12 05:09 AM
0

Logical argument is logical, why the hate?
/r/MensRights25/09/12 10:42 PM
2

I talked with my mom about this a few times when I was younger. She kept saying that I should put the seat down because it's her house, therefore her rules. I said no, and that until she could make a logical argument for why I should that I would continue to leave the seat up. I had this argument in mind. So after a few stupid arguments, such as her saying it smells better (to which I pointed out the P shape of toilet pipes does that, not the seat) she finally got to this one and then we agreed …
/r/MensRights25/09/12 10:41 PM
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The denial/rejection of natural male actions to achieve desired results and the acceptance/pedestalization of natural female actions to achieve desired results. Male = Bad, Female = Good. Kind of a core issue for men's rights, no? It's also evidence against the whole 'men intimidate and scare women, and only use them for sex (objectification)' by observing that women have been/are using this tactic to extract what they want from men and can no longer be used as evidence of the patriarchyyyy lol'
/r/MensRights25/09/12 12:02 AM
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If a man wakes up the next morning and believes he was raped, of course he should be taken seriously. However, his feelings about the event after it happened don't have any bearing on whether or not he was actually raped. I'll say again. Feeling like you were raped the next day has no bearing on whether or not you were actually raped. The Geneva convention bars stereotyping and group punishments for actions performed by individuals. Trying to refute the morality of that position would be an exer…
/r/MensRights23/09/12 10:11 PM
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No no. If both are drunk and want sex while drunk, and act on that. It isn't rape, regardless of how they feel the next day. How is it logical to expect someone to know while they are drunk that the other person will regret it in the morning even though they are wanting it now? This is just another example of expecting another to be able to read your mind and know your desires even if at the time you don't know them, and this is usually female trait in my experience lol. I'm crying foul because …
/r/MensRights23/09/12 10:01 PM
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go to a bar, spot a drunk girl, get her a bit more drunk, get her back to his place and have his way with her and that's all fine and dandy because in your world, that is not rape??? Again with the reframe. No, I wouldn't consider hitting on drunk girls rape. However, the issue we were talking about was two drunk people having sex, not one sober male/female trying to get the other drunk to have sex with them. Though again, I don't feel like that is rape. That is the person drinking making bad ch…
/r/MensRights23/09/12 09:43 PM
1

Again, you are avoiding the actual scenario that was being put forth. You are reframing so that you have something to say. If person A gets drunk, and person B gets drunk and they talk and flirt while drunk, and both willingly go and have a night of rambunctious sex, and then wake up and Person A & B both feel violated, who did the raping? In our legal system, the man is the rapists. Even if he calls the police first, he is told to get over himself and live with his mistakes. Unfortunately for m…
/r/MensRights23/09/12 09:36 PM
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sigh I really didn't think I would need to break this down for you. What you are doing is reframing so that you have something to say. Your example scenario is not what is being talked about here -in your scenario I agreed with you, but your scenario is a straw man fallacy in regard to what is being discussed in this thread. certainly the drunk rapist is responsible for his choice to get drunk and have non consensual sex with a drunk person So the 'rapist' has responsibility for his actions whil…
/r/MensRights23/09/12 09:17 PM
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Why do you continue to buy a drunk girl drinks? Does it matter the reason? See the 'fat person' example above as to why that doesn't exempt her, or place on me, responsibility for her being drunk. Yeah, men bear more responsibility because this situation used to be all too common, yet the actual convictions for this type of rape aren't actually that high Why do men bear more responsibility? Both man and woman get drunk and have sex = man is more responsible. That doesn't make a lot of sense. The…
/r/MensRights23/09/12 09:09 PM
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Being drunk in public is not a declaration of not wanting to have sex either. Responsibility is a bitch. The logic for getting out of it is: I chose to get drunk, but anything I do while drunk isn't really me and I shouldn't be liable for my actions. I am sure if you, again, use a strawman fallacy and ad hoc rescue we could agree on when it is rape and when a person isn't liable, but that wouldn't really address this issue.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 09:02 PM
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She is liable for her choices and the consequences of those choices. Anyone who drinks to the point of not knowing what is going on and not making good choices is still responsible for the repercussions. Your little scenario is the very definition of the straw man fallacy: taking the argument to an extreme (the man not moving at the end -which then yes I would consider it rape). However, we here at MR are not saying your scenario wouldn't be considered rape. We are saying that if a guy or girl g…
/r/MensRights23/09/12 09:00 PM
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Is it wrong that I see this and go...fuck yea...more job opportunities higher in the corporate ladder for me!?
/r/MensRights23/09/12 05:42 PM
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unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress. This implies that even if there is no consent, so long as you don't use force or duress, it's not rape. Duress includes against their will IE without consent. My definition most certainly includes a consent aspect. And no, you can't give consent when under the influence of alcohol or drugs. I disagree. I think you can give consent, and are responsible for your choices if you are in an inebriated state by choice. It seems we may si…
/r/MensRights23/09/12 12:29 AM
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Your using the ad hoc rescue logical fallacy. In one post you say I think that if someone goes out with the intent of taking advantage of you while you're not fully aware, that makes you a victim. (emphasis mine) and now you say hmm, ok. I think the difference is that the person in our scenario is totally unaware of the malicious intent of the other person. That is what makes them a victim. (emphasis mine) The fallacy part is totally unaware is very different from not fully aware -you are changi…
/r/MensRights23/09/12 12:22 AM
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lol IRONYYYYYYYY! Women with vagina power talking about how men with penis power are bad!
/r/MensRights23/09/12 12:17 AM
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My definition: the unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse. ---The 'unlawful compelling' part of this definition implies consent was not given. Can you unlawfully compel someone to have sex with consent? Consent is a fickle thing. I agree, consenting to go out and drink isn't consent to sex. Being completely open to advances, and perhaps even doing some of the advancing yourself, no matter how out of character due to inebriation, is consent. If…
/r/MensRights23/09/12 12:08 AM
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Governments take advantage of me (taxes) and I am not fully aware of their purpose or intentions -but I continue to pay taxes. That doesn't make me a victim, it makes me a participant. Many charities go out daily on the streets, asking for funds, basically hoping to take advantage any empathy people have -if I give them money, I am not a victim, I am a participant. Bars and casino's take advantage of me being drunk to get more money -but it doesn't make me a victim because I chose to get drunk a…
/r/MensRights22/09/12 11:51 PM
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I see what your saying about S2. However, I don't like the analogy with murder and manslaughter. In both cases there is a victim who likely had no choice in the matter. In S2, the person chose to drink to the point of not being herself. If a person went out at the start of the night with that intention, then I think he is indeed morally wrong. However, being morally wrong does not equal rape. She still had to go out with that person, she chose to get drunk (getting drunk to the point of not bein…
/r/MensRights22/09/12 11:46 PM
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The problem I see, is in our two scenarios, there was no 'victim' -there were two participants, both willing at the time. Both made personal choices and no one was forced.
/r/MensRights22/09/12 11:27 PM
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Definition comes from dictionary.com. The reason I use it is because it's general while not being vague. The UN definition doesn't work for me because what the hell is 'valid' consent. No doubt it means she cannot be inebriated in anyway, which negates any responsibility for her actions (getting drunk, and then the subsequent actions) The FBI definition is alright, though I feel that level of clarity isn't needed, and my definition in general covered all that. Scenario two is morally grey, to me…
/r/MensRights22/09/12 11:22 PM
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I would just like to say first, that I wish people wouldn't downvote the things you say simply because they don't like them, posts like yours foster discussion and should be upvoted. First, the definition of rape I use is:the unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse. In neither case was the girl physically forced or under any duress. Sure, it is in the moral greyzone in scenario two, but certainly not rape. I imagine that the next day many peopl…
/r/MensRights22/09/12 10:58 PM
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Yep, full on send the guy to prison and ruin his life forever rape. If a guy has sex when drunk, was he raped too? Nope, he was lucky to have had sex at all. Besides, men are legally responsible for their actions 100% of the time...hence the reason r/mensrights exists.
/r/MensRights22/09/12 10:46 PM
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Any person who impairs another's judgement with the intent of taking advantage should be punished. The issue for me, is that it is nearly impossible to prove that a person had malicious intent. It also isn't rape in your second scenario, because the women, whether or not she is insecure, chose to go out with that person, chose to drink, and while drunk chose to have sex. I am personally an advocate of responsibility, even while drunk. I don't have a decent answer for you, but I think you're bein…
/r/MensRights22/09/12 10:39 PM
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How does one 'get' a girl drunk? She drinks. That isn't my fault even if I continually buy her drinks throughout the night. It's called responsibility. Fat people can't blame me for being/getting fat if I offer to buy dinner and they eat everything in sight -same for drinking. Also, as stated often in this subreddit, if a girl is drunk chances are I am drunk as well -but when men are mentally impaired they still have 100% responsibility for their actions, why don't women? For some reason they ha…
/r/MensRights22/09/12 09:36 PM
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Makes sense. I would like to withdraw my argument :D
/r/MensRights20/09/12 03:54 PM
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It's sad though. Men's sexuality is viewed as inherently disgusting, offensive, and demeaning to women. Women's sexuality is viewed is inherently sensual, innocent, and desirable and empowering for both genders. Man asks for oral: your an asshole pressuring her into something she shouldn't have to do if she doesn't want to. Woman asks for oral: she just wants reciprocal pleasure, and if you don't like giving oral then you must be gay/awkward/mentally ill Man refuses to give oral: asshole who doe…
/r/MensRights19/09/12 05:03 PM
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Take a look at almost any girl on facebook, and see how many friend requests, message, and notifications she has. Then look at your facebook. What we really need to do here, as part of the MR in my opinion, is start the reemergence of real brotherhood. Women have this already, and sure it will be called an ol boys club, but it would do wonders for men, most likely reduce depression in boys, and even lower suicide rates. Friendship and brotherhood are the medicine we need.
/r/MensRights19/09/12 04:53 PM
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Despite whether I agree with you or not, my point is still valid. I also think the DM is a shaky source, and as such should be looked at with skepticism, but to disregard it entirely is in fact ad hominem/guilty by association fallacy.
/r/MensRights19/09/12 03:36 PM
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Saying that we shouldn't read the DM and disregard it entirely is a mixture of ad hominem and guilty by association logical fallacies.
/r/MensRights19/09/12 06:25 AM
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Interesting point of view. I do think psychological harm and emotional harm are real, though I'm not sure it can be measured effectively. I disagree though with killing as a solution, as well as imprisonment. I am happy that you took my asking for your reasoning as serious, not many do. I respect your opinion. Thanks :)
/r/MensRights15/09/12 07:44 PM
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Lol hyperbole hat. What part of what I said is hyperbole? Also, just because my theoretical opinion of how the world should be is different than his and how the world actually functions, doesn't mean I am precluded from arguing within his frame, which is what I did.
/r/MensRights15/09/12 07:34 PM
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Instead of resorting to a match of name calling (I started it, I admit) and pointing out how wanting less government in my life isn't a liberal principle -let's discuss. To me, punishment should fit the crime. I don't consider 'cheating' to be a crime, or an offense that the government should have any action or interest in. I also think marriage shouldn't exist, or at least not legally. Even if it were a crime, extermination is not a proportionate punishment for a crime that causes no physical h…
/r/MensRights15/09/12 06:54 PM
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I believe Muslim countries value justice in this regard and stone adulterers to death. Do you actually think about what your saying first, or does it just come spewing out? You actually think that justice for causing someone emotional pain and hurting your family is stoning? Wow. The words morally bankrupt come to mind.
/r/MensRights15/09/12 05:57 PM
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Yes, because more government in my personal relationships is what I want. /s How about instead we simply get rid of marriage as an institution?
/r/MensRights15/09/12 05:55 PM
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Interesting... First, anyone who gets married, what with all the knowledge we have about human nature and divorce statistics, is a sucker. Man or woman. People always talk about the institution of marriage is the most natural, and base of all human pairings. It isn't. We should just get rid of it. Most people will cheat, and many of the reasons given are good reasons. If you feel alone, like your wife/husband isn't paying any attention to you or giving you what you want, then you should be able …
/r/MensRights15/09/12 05:54 PM
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This is a difficult issue because it isn't as simple as 'she agreed to it'. As some have already pointed out, some rights cannot be waived and some things are simply illegal. For example, your rights to freedom in western democracies and the illegality of slavery. You cannot sell yourself into slavery even if you fully understand what is going on and agree to it. Then, the antiporn site makes, I think, a good argument about stimulation. Men and boys are now searching for more and more hardcore p…
/r/MensRights15/09/12 05:39 PM
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:D
/r/MensRights15/09/12 05:21 PM
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Why the fuck is this in r/mensrights? It has nothing to do with mensrights, and the question isn't even male-specific in reality. This shouldn't even be here, go back to /askreddit
/r/MensRights15/09/12 04:30 PM
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Up to a point. In my opinion, once a fetus has brainwaves and the majority of its body/bodily functions are in working order, that fetus is a human being deserving of all rights and protections under the law. Before that, yes. After that, no.
/r/MensRights15/09/12 02:58 AM
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Yes it does. If it is after brainwaves have appeared, then she is legally barred from having an abortion regardless of what she wants. If it is before, then I believe it is her choice due to my opinion that before brainwaves it isn't a human being with rights, it is a parasite, and the mother gets to choose treatment options. equal rights doesn't mean equality. No person should have say over how another person chooses to deal with a medical problem, regardless of whether that problem is a fetus …
/r/MensRights15/09/12 02:50 AM
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I would disagree. But then again, I also disagree with the term 'equality' -I want equal rights, not equality. I think the female wins in both cases, and I think that is fair and I am a staunch MRA. I am of the opinion that a fetus doesn't become a human until brainwaves, after which abortion should be illegal. Up to that point, it may as well be an infection or parasite and she has absolute right to abort it. That being said, men should have the right to legal paternal surrender, a vasectomy wh…
/r/MensRights15/09/12 12:19 AM
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THIS! It isn't about making sure that girls/women 'get it' as bad a boys/men -it's about fighting for fair treatment and equal rights. So, be upset about boys being charged with something while girls aren't and fight to have that changed, but don't focus your anger into a destructive force instead of a productive force.
/r/MensRights15/09/12 12:14 AM
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Right here, is something that feminists claim MRA's never do: Have conflicting views, discuss, and then move forward with the most logical one. Bravo sirs!
/r/MensRights14/09/12 05:49 PM
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I think this was obviously a joke. Sure, I could have explained why that is faulty logic as easily as the next person, but we all need to learn to pick our battles and relax a little (sometimes).
/r/MensRights14/09/12 03:52 AM
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Can't argue with that logic.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 11:17 PM
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lol! My guess is that most of the comments come out of context. I also don't like how that moronic OP tries to be social academic theory as the same level of scientific theory, and assuming that because it is included in academia it must be right. (I'm sure he'd be shocked to found out that some of us, like me, are social/political liberals with an actual university education)
/r/MensRights13/09/12 03:58 AM
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This is very typical of feminists. They don't want to be judged for what their gender does, or by anything innately biological (like the whole 'equal pay for equal work', what they mean is equal pay for equal hours, hence the reason female construction workers get paid the same as the men despite the biological difference that makes it near impossible for men and women to do equal work in the same amount of time in the industry). The irony then, is that many feminists are completely satisfied wi…
/r/MensRights12/09/12 05:21 PM
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This is a rape analogy. This is what women face every single day when they try to bring their rapists to justice. But it is offensive to suggest that our justice system is like this 100% of the time, which is what is being implied. It is also false. It's the very definition of a straw man fallacy - and you're championing it.
/r/MensRights11/09/12 04:58 PM
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Well the analogy doesn't really work does it? The problem is that it's an analogical argument against an argument of taking preventative measures. It also combines at least two different instances of rape. The first, being forced at gunpoint to allow penetration. The second, having sex with someone without ever saying or even implying you didn't want it, and then calling it rape after the fact. The first, everyone, MRA's included, see as a horrible crime while also noticing that preventative mea…
/r/MensRights11/09/12 04:51 PM
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I don't understand women (or people) who are like this. Are women oppressed? Yes. Are men oppressed? Yes (only if we are being honest, that is ha) The majority of women have higher IQs and men are stupid. Yet, they say WE are inferior I love hearing people say this, because it is so completely wrong. Check this out: (Original comment from crazy89) First, Flynn's research has been greatly exaggerated; he himself has said that it has been misconstrued. He argues that there are no significant cogni…
/r/MensRights11/09/12 05:38 AM
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True that, but try pointing that out to any women in the vicinity. HA. Man: Hey, you all realize this basically implies that women are too stupid to understand logic, or are unbending, self-center bitches Woman: uhh fuck you it's funny and all women are right all the time anyways haha lol lmfao gtfo
/r/MensRights11/09/12 05:33 AM
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As someone else said Honesty, sure her status was shitty, and you called her out appropriately I think we all need to work on our tact from time to time, but just because she has a vagina doesn't mean she gets exempted from being called out for bad behavior as most girls think (and are). You should try to use the Socratic method next time: Do you think it's fair to lump all men in the entire world, all 3+ billion of us, and hate us for what less than .00001% of us have apparently done to you?
/r/MensRights11/09/12 05:30 AM
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This is hardly all logical fallacies, I would say it's less than 10%, it's just the most common. Good find none the less :D
/r/MensRights09/09/12 04:50 PM
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Again, the only moral position is that it is better for 100 evil men to go free to ensure that not a single innocent is wrongly imprisoned. A DNA exoneration shows that someone was wrong, yes. I am of the belief that before you accuse someone, you be 100% sure. I think that legal repercussions for being 'wrong' when destroying someones life, likely forever, be severe. Would this cause some rapists/murderers/muggers/etc to go free? Most likely. Would it ensure that not a single innocent is wrongl…
/r/MensRights07/09/12 05:29 PM
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...can you show me a single case out of the thousands of DNA exonerations, IE proof, where someone was convicted for falsely accusing? Also, the prosecutors office tends to make the decision of whether to attempt a conviction, not the judge. Just look through MR, go and take a look, of almost any link referencing false accusations of rape, there are many, and read the articles, and usually the prosecutors office decides not prosecute for whatever reason. This is a double standard, as men are not…
/r/MensRights07/09/12 04:43 PM
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No. Actually convicting is the problem. It is a rare occasion when a female is convicted of falsely accusing someone even if it has been proven she lied.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 04:26 PM
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That's why we need to criminalize false allegations, because it ends up with people in prison who don't belong there. The moral position is that it is better to let 100 guilty men go free to ensure that an innocent is not wrongly imprisoned. Anyone who alleges anything against anyone should be certain, 100%, without any doubt before they ruin someone's entire life. I think that is where the line should be drawn, not the other way around.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 05:02 AM
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No I am not in the US, I am German. It seems rather ludicrous that you have to prove someone 'knows' they lied...how does someone not know they lied about rape, or accused the wrong person? The rape laws insinuate that only men are rapists, and the many organizations like NOW have definitions that seem to, at least on their face, imply that men are perpetrators (be if DV, rape, or anything) and females are victims. It's this sort of thing that has led to say, airlines banning men from sitting ne…
/r/MensRights07/09/12 01:45 AM
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You wonder if the numbers matter?? Thats like asking does reality matter. You have to prioritize somehow! How is it possible for you to continue to fail at divining the purpose of my statements? I said I wonder if the numbers really matter in the sense that if it occurs at all then we should be fighting against it, not that occurrence rates don't matter when prioritizing. Wikipedia is a great thing for self-learning, it is not a great thing to use during arguments. Again, any and all academic fi…
/r/MensRights07/09/12 01:08 AM
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Not calling out Siggy is the DEFINITION of a free pass. I didn't call you out either until you brought it up. I don't understand how I am white-knighting, you were both wrong and I said as much. I am not trying to impress you. I am an academic, and as such I find using wikipedia as a source to be rather obtuse. It isn't about the quality of wikipedia, it is about who can alter it and that it isn't direct. In any university class or academic field you would be laughed at, and while I know this is…
/r/MensRights07/09/12 12:22 AM
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+1 more logical fallacy (assuming that because I pointed out wikipedia is a bad source that I didn't look, don't agree, and am blind --> this is called the appeal to ridicule fallacy) As for my so-called uncivilized remarks - I notice you had nothing to say about Siggy's 'lying bitch' comments, only my response to them. You are the only one who responded to what I said, if he would have I would have certainly said the same damn thing. Stop assuming that everyone disagrees with you or is picking …
/r/MensRights06/09/12 11:17 PM
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It's Wikipedia - I went direct to the Kanin critique, but scroll up & down to see FBI stuff. We are arguing about percentage of false rape allegation. However when called a lying dishonest feminist bitch I responded in an unladylike fashion and shall continue to do so. Wikipedia is NOT a valid source. Period. Not now, and not anywhere. You reacted in an uncivilized way, I don't care about your gender. You do seem to be a feminist, and make a fair amount of logical fallacy arguments while refusin…
/r/MensRights06/09/12 10:24 PM
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First, where is the link to the FBI statistics? What is it you are exactly trying to argue about or disagree with, you haven't exactly been focused or coherent.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 07:41 PM
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I mean try actually citing the evidence instead of asserting that 'the FBI numbers say X.' You also ignore the fact that the FBI numbers purpose was not to find out how many were false allegations -> making the FBI numbers less conclusive on false allegations than other studies that were done with the purpose of finding false allegation rates. You completely ignore this point, you can't use statistics to bolster your own argument while ignoring an objection to the methodology or purpose of the s…
/r/MensRights06/09/12 05:59 PM
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Wow! Both of you are committing so many logical fallacies it literally hurts my head to read this thread. Stop throwing around numbers and accusations, and instead support your argument with actual evidence and avoid personal attacks, they dilute everything you are both trying to say.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 05:40 PM
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Your the one here acting like a child. He didn't call you names, he didn't mock your intelligence, and he didn't act like he was full of himself.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 05:37 PM
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When you post something akin to this, you really need to temper your skin. kingturtle wasn't being an ass, he was just observing that you really have little understanding of feminism.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 05:35 PM
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Seen it a few times. Great information. I love how at the end they try to spin it like men don't care when another man is hurt and the women their care and it doesn't matter he is a guy. Listen to when the girl comes over a little more than halfway through, she says "people want to call the cops on you guys", implying he was also in trouble. Or later the women's phone call "two people are fighting can you send someone over" -if it were reversed back to male on female violence, the call would hav…
/r/MensRights06/09/12 05:02 PM
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It's a scary dream, I've had it myself once or twice. No doubt some will say you need to worry about this less because it doesn't happen all that often, but that doesn't help you or the cause we support here on MR. I would say however, that you need to be careful not to be paranoid of this happening to you. Much like you shouldn't be paranoid about getting murdered, or mugged. You just need to be aware, and that is the key. If you are aware that this could happen, the logical step that we all sh…
/r/MensRights03/09/12 06:01 PM
1

If you want I could give you peer reviewed studies supporting the notion that the extremely mentally do, in fact, not know killing is wrong, or stealing is wrong, or yelling is wrong, etc. I doubt you could find evidence to the contrary. This is part of the reason why the US no longer executes those who are mentally ill to a certain point.
/r/MensRights31/08/12 03:11 PM
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What I don't get is where it asks " Were Sarah's smart comments off-putting for men?" uhhh...what smart things did she say? She was just a bitch. If a the roles were reversed, then I would say he is just a bastard.
/r/MensRights30/08/12 04:07 AM
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Agreed that is a problem. She needs to be in prison, getting therapy there. The fact that she could live her life outside with no restrictions is a travesty.
/r/MensRights28/08/12 06:19 PM
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If they won't accept the help then force them to do it as part of their prison time. Their resistance might be caused by the illness itself.
/r/MensRights28/08/12 04:13 PM
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'let go' is the wrong phrase. Therapy can take years, and it may even be prison-like, but instead of locking someone up and throwing away the key, they are locked up but with goals and are released when they are healthy, not when they have 'paid for their crimes'. Both the depressed mother and the crazy shooter should be evaluated and IF they are diagnosed with a severe mental illness that caused their crime they should be treated. If not, they should go to prison.
/r/MensRights28/08/12 04:13 PM
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That is the mentality that has lead America to have the largest prison population in the world. Again, if we want to pretend we are a civilized and scientifically advanced society, and we know that chemical imbalances in the brain can cause strange out-of-character reactions, then we have to treat and rehabilitate the person not just lock them up out of blind anger and justice. This isn't to say some people don't deserve to be punished. I am sure that often times when a mother/father kills their…
/r/MensRights28/08/12 02:59 PM
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Wrong. If we as a society recognize that certain mental health issues are real, and extreme, then what she needs is therapy not punishment. The issue for MR is that these types of things also happen to males and are disregarded and females get off without going to therapy or getting treatment. We should be fighting for equal rights/treatment not punishment of women who 'get off' for legitimate reasons. (IF they are legitimate, if not please carry on lol)
/r/MensRights28/08/12 02:38 PM
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YAY WOMEN!!! Using sex instead of logic to change hearts and minds.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 07:38 PM
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I know it can apply to both men and women, hence my earlier reply to this post saying the title should be changed. I meant obvious in the sense that most people hearing this would understand what he means despite his lack of explanation. Perhaps it isn't, it seemed so to me. I do agree that he should explain it better.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 06:00 PM
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His body, his choice.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 05:49 PM
1

Agreed. However, I think it is obvious that OP is not referring to a long term relationship growth that betters both parties. More likely he is referring to a girl wanting her man of only a few months to start wearing different clothes, reading different things, drinking different coffee, etc. The key, for all men and women, is to simply always be yourself, that way when you find a woman you really love and who loves you, it won't be because of some face you have put on for them.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 04:59 PM
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True. Though title should be changed to: "If anyone wants to change you..."
/r/MensRights26/08/12 07:23 AM
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http://www.abc4.com/content/news/slc/story/4-people-arrested-in-connection-with-body-found/zZ0DjW0kCECXut3lDFo_fg.cspx
/r/MensRights25/08/12 04:29 PM
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It would seem it's only true for some genders.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 03:58 PM
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I remember your original post, and I sent in my own complaint to support. So maybe this is a small victory, but the real victory will be if they put a new rape definition up that is more accurate. In my head, I see that as a possibility, but there is also a great possibility it simply comes back the same as it was. Great job though, and I'm glad I could lend my help at the time.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 03:53 AM
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How can a man defend himself? He can't, hence the reason this is a serious issue for the MRM. As men, we can either abstain from ever being alone with a women or simply have an optimistic outlook that some woman won't exploit the legal system.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 03:41 AM
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Have the definition removed is most likely the first step of a review process. Let's wait for a few more months and see what happens before declaring victory.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 03:37 AM
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I wonder what people would say if that was a guy with a vagina apron on? My guess is police would be called and man arrested for some bullshit 'lewdness in public' charge.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 03:34 AM
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Exactly. If you want to attempt a civilized discussion go for it, if not you can either de-friend or let go of it; there is no need to make yourself look bad just because someone else has already done so.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 03:30 AM
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Both. Not only is it factually inaccurate to say that women are almost all about feelings (is any person almost all about any particular thing?) but the this kind of stereotyping implies that men are unfeeling and unemotional when compared to women...which is both a bad stereotype and factually incorrect.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 03:28 AM
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"You don't need to be a chicken to recognize an egg" This picture amounts to a certain type of anecdotal evidence logical fallacy. Personally, I am of the belief that women's reproductive rights is a misnomer, it should simply be reproductive rights seeing as how both sexes must participate despite what most feminists would like to believe.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 07:59 PM
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I don't think a single person here is saying that circumcision needs to be banned for consenting and informed adults. We are saying that the right of self-determination for anyone, child or not, trumps religious/parental rights. Parents are custodians of their children's rights/bodies, not owners.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 07:40 PM
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that kind of statement can only be said by a man who was circumcised after he was sexually active. Anecdotal evidence doesn't lend support to anything from a logical stand point so even if you know a guy who has better sensitivity AFTER he was circumcised (being sexually active before and after) it proves nothing. Instead, science ftw: http://www.nocirc.org/touch-test/touchtest.php -"Intact men enjoy four times more penile sensitivity than circumcised men, according to the "Fine-touch Pressure T…
/r/MensRights24/08/12 07:36 PM
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No. The context of that was whether or not men have always had rights without thinking about it as asserted by the female.
/r/MensRights23/08/12 03:51 PM
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It has everything to do with military service. No. It doesn't. You are re-framing it to have to do with military service. The military part was only brought up by you. Would you not count the civilians who died during the French revolution as men who died for a cause, either directly or indirectly? The majority of wars fought by the US were fought by the military. Since this is the case only those who serve and those who did serve should have the right to vote and hold office. Regardless if your…
/r/MensRights22/08/12 11:11 PM
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I don't see how pointing out that many men have died in order to obtain rights for themselves and others has anything to do with military services, or how it implies that only those who serve in the military should have rights and specifically the right to vote. Plenty of non-military men died to obtain rights and freedom.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 08:19 PM
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I'm not really against Augusta changing. Honestly, I think men and women should play gold together and both tee-off from the same position. Funny how women generally won't admit to differences in gender, but when tee-off comes they want to hit from 30 yards closer than the men. Again though, I am certainly fine with male only clubs and female only clubs. I think both bring a benefit to both genders, the problem (as most MRA's would agree I think) is that women only clubs are celebrated while men…
/r/MensRights22/08/12 04:08 PM
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Exactly...I don't even know how to respond to that...
/r/MensRights22/08/12 04:05 PM
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Does anyone have the right to be in a private club? I mean, I am not necessarily against female only groups, as long as it is ok to have male only groups...
/r/MensRights22/08/12 03:27 PM
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None of it has been peer reviewed by a reputable women's studies journal. ZING! That was great!
/r/MensRights22/08/12 04:36 AM
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I know it's tedious, but I think necessary when making such statements. Thanks for the source. :)
/r/MensRights08/08/12 09:34 PM
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No to what? All I am saying is that anything that follows after "in my experience" is anecdotal evidence that is akin to saying nothing, isn't a reputable representation of the population. I was hoping that you might have some actual evidence for saying corporations are 90% white males at the top. I agree that what you said is most likely accurate, but we should cite sources to support our arguments.
/r/MensRights08/08/12 08:05 PM
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Anecdotal fallacy at best. While I agree with your sentiment, in a controversial area like men's rights we all need to be careful not to use logical fallacies, and instead refer to peer-reviewed studies. Have any?
/r/MensRights08/08/12 05:24 PM
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I don't think that gold-digging or lying actually constitutes harm. As you said, very douche like, but not harm.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 09:04 AM
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Biologically the only thing we are meant to be focusing on is those boobs, that taut, gravity defying ass, and her sweet hourglass figure. I agree that there is more to people than their sexual appeal. However I feel that women (or men) have to prove there is more to them, it isn't my job to assume they are an interesting person, or an intellectual equal.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 08:17 AM
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I'm not sure that drawing parallels between humans and dogs is a very strong argument. I agree with everything else.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 08:14 AM
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What is your definition of harm then? Because I doubt many of us are keeping a woman or man locked up in the basement for sex. I mean, when is sexual objectification ever harmful to another person? As soon as it moves to being harmful I imagine it would be classified as some sort of sexual assault.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 08:12 AM
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That seems a bit much, you should do what I do --> only go to certain levels romantically. I love going on dates, I love kissing women, and I especially love fucking women. However, I don't ever want to go steady or move in together or get married or have children. Doesn't mean I can't enjoy some carnal pleasures now and again. (and for all the crazies out there, this isn't disrespecting women and if you really need to an explanation as to why then I feel bad for you)
/r/MensRights31/07/12 10:11 AM
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I struggled with this for a long time, the level of politeness or 'chivalry' one should show. I have devised a simple question that I ask every time something comes up like this. Would I do it for another man? If the answer is yes, then I do it. If a girl is struggling to open a heavy door, do I help her? Well I would help another man so yes. If a girl looks like she wants to sit down on a bus while I am sitting, do I give up my seat? I wouldn't for another man (unless like OP said they are elde…
/r/MensRights29/07/12 11:11 PM
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That's why the slogan is "where pretty lies perish"
/r/MensRights29/07/12 10:12 AM
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I'm sorry if I made that implication, I don't think women have everything easy.
/r/MensRights13/07/12 10:56 PM
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I admit the post is a bit troll-ish, however it isn't exactly 'wrong' either. Sure it is referencing a stereotype, but one that is actually fairly accurate and supported by the industrialization of child support by male fathers as we can all see. Of course if a women was told to pay child support, eventually she would be thrown in jail. The real issue is the relative amount of mothers who are A - separated from their children, and B - the number of fathers who in case A actually ask for child su…
/r/MensRights13/07/12 10:56 PM
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Of course not. When a man fails to pay he is a deadbeat father, when a woman fails to pay it's because her life is hard and she needs help.
/r/MensRights13/07/12 02:43 PM
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Sorry, I should have gone more in-depth. The lesbian couple split up, and the woman who had custody of the child lost her job and applied for government aid. The government noticed she had a child but wasn't getting any child support, and so the state went after this guy who is married and has children of his own.
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Your memory is a bit foggy yes - there was one case where a man and a lesbian couple made a private agreement without a doctor or sperm bank, and the judge held that because he didn't go through proper channels he was liable yo pay child support. (even though both women supported the man during the case)
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