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The best wingmen are guys who are already in relationships or married.
/r/seduction22/02/25 05:44 PM
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I saw them when I was a young guy (23/24), went from a dad bod physique to a lean physique. Even before the weight loss I got some compliments from the working girls, and many were baffled that a young guy like me was seeing them, a couple said it was "refreshing" to have a young guy come see them. When I lost weight I got some pretty positive reactions that seemed more than just acting, particularly from the girls I saw several times. You could argue that it was just acting, but at the same tim…
/r/seduction22/02/25 02:48 AM
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For me, it helped me because I had a hard time expressing myself sexually around women. I was a late bloomer who lost his virginity at 23, and that was mostly being in the right place at the right time more than anything. Beyond that I didn't get much chances to practice. I think I might have driven a girl away by having no clue what to do when getting hot and heavy. Visiting sex workers opened up that door for me to get more practice in a "safe" environment, with the bonus of enjoying the bodie…
/r/seduction21/02/25 06:55 PM
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Right right. Tbh those girls were probably two steps ahead of me by engaging in the conversation. I have no way of telling whether or not they were genuine or just very good at faking a persona, but some of them did a damn good job at making me forget they were pros, at least temporarily. Having repeat customers is extremely beneficial to them after all. Not sure on the details of how, but I'd say the overarching strategy is to find out how a man gets comfortable and fit into the mold of what cl…
/r/seduction29/12/24 04:36 PM
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It sounds kind of corny, but talking to them like they're just normal women actually goes a long way. Most of these women are accustomed to men treating them a certain way, probably tenfold compared to the average "hot girl" who isn't a sex worker. Many of them find it refreshing when a man talks to her in a way that makes her feel like she's a normal girl. I didn't click with every girl, but the ones I did click with really went out of their way to give me the best bang for my buck, literally. …
/r/seduction29/12/24 03:30 AM
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For starters, this is just going off the information about Elon that is publicly known. I'm confident that nobody here actually knows what Elon is really like in person. I don't even know that lol. That being said, not only does he have money but he has a lot of status, he's one of the most powerful men in the world. Status of any sort is attractive to women. On the contrary, consider Markus Persson (the dude who made Minecraft) who is also a billionaire, and became notorious for regularly tweet…
/r/seduction29/12/24 12:17 AM
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That sounds like a total ripoff if you ask me.
/r/seduction28/12/24 11:35 PM
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Had my fair share of encounters with sex workers. At the time I struggled with women quite a bit. I didn't learn game from it directly per se, but it did help me overcome my anxiety about expressing my sexual side around women. I had some weird ideas in my head about how women viewed sex,. At the time most women I knew or dated were socially conservative, feminist, asexual, or were just sex negative for whatever reason, which definitely did not help. Being with sex workers gave me a "safe space"…
/r/seduction28/12/24 11:04 PM
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Fastest was in a club for a friend's birthday, it took me 1-2 hours. She was one of my friend's coworkers, wasn't my type physically at all, but she was down to fuck and I was a drunk, horny guy and it had been a while for me. If I had another girl lined up I probably wouldn't have bothered. Really it's about being in the right place at the right time and happening to meet someone who's also looking for a quick, easy lay. Lowering your standards temporarily also helps increase your chances. The …
/r/seduction05/11/24 09:34 PM
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Egalitarian.
/r/MensRights10/10/24 07:14 PM
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I'd argue the bigger problem is people are just taking the number and running with it, without actually looking into the details of the data, the premises of the studies, the people behind the studies. That's the problem with any published statistical claim though. It's not politically safe to point this out, especially in academic circles where your job and reputation are on the line. That's why claims like this are proliferating unchecked.
/r/MensRights10/10/24 07:09 PM
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You kinda beat yourself up for being so stupid about your fuckups, but also realize that if it weren't for those fuckups you never would have learned in the first place. It is what it is
/r/seduction08/09/24 04:41 AM
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Important, don't buy her a drink unless she's shown you she deserves it. If she buys you a drink, even better!
/r/seduction07/09/24 02:11 PM
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Get good at dancing, be friendly to everyone, prioritize having fun over getting girls. Women in clubs tend to gravitate towards the fun guys
/r/seduction07/09/24 02:09 PM
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They prioritize more than looks when looking for a suitable boyfriend. Some women actively avoid getting into relationships with attractive men because they're too insecure to handle the idea of a guy who can get female attention easily.
/r/seduction05/09/24 08:15 PM
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In a small town, there are less people and the population tends to be more stagnant. When you go around the block enough, your name will eventually make its way into the rumour mill. Women tend to be more closed off and don't make themselves easy, because it's more likely they'll develop a reputation for being "easy" if they aren't careful. Cities on the other hand, have so many people and so much going on at once that nobody's really that bothered to know everything, and that gives you a layer …
/r/seduction05/09/24 05:10 PM
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Hit the nail right on the head here. Once I figured this out I went from having a couple matches here and there with extremely rare dates, to getting on average one match per day and a couple dates per month. It almost felt unfair lol. I probably had the "average guy" profile on Tinder. My photos were unflattering, poor quality, outdated, and didn't really have much effort put into them. According to a female friend who critiqued my Tinder, reading my bio was like "reading a book". My profile wa…
/r/seduction03/09/24 10:02 PM
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When I was still a virgin, briefly dated this girl who claimed she was a virgin and "saving herself for marriage", she was more than happy to fool around and express that there were "other ways" to get off. She was down for oral and I'm pretty sure I could have gotten some backdoor action from her. Even though I'm down to stick it in the backdoor, I didn't want to lose my virginity that way. There have been several missed opportunities that I didn't take for whatever reason. Most of those came w…
/r/seduction27/08/24 05:46 PM
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There's a difference between a strong woman and an insufferable woman with something to prove. Don't give these women the satisfaction of being called strong lol. But to answer your question, as Omni Man says "That's the neat part, you don't!"
/r/seduction24/08/24 04:11 PM
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The best "strategy" at the club is to not be in the mindset of being there to pick up women, and be there with the mindset of having a good time and letting loose. When you're having a good time and others see that, they might just gravitate towards you to try and replicate that energy, and that just might make you the life of the party. Women tend to be drawn to men who exude positive energy like that. Women should be the bonus objective, not the primary one.
/r/seduction23/08/24 09:29 PM
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I was in your shoes once. I firmly believe that I wasn't the only one at fault, I was in an environment filled with shitty people I didn't happen to fit in with and I believe that was a huge factor in me not being my best self. Nevertheless, I wasn't free of fault either and once I became aware of that I made apologies where they were due, and kept my head down and committed to staying in my own lane. Once your reputation is damaged it's extremely difficult to repair, and even if you do manage t…
/r/seduction21/08/24 04:39 PM
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It's not that they "aren't that important", they are important but they just aren't everything. A dude could look like Chris Hemsworth, but if he behaves like Mr. Bean then he's not going to get much action.
/r/seduction19/08/24 06:33 PM
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Having a good time, giving off positive vibes, and looking like you're fun to be around. The song "Girls just wanna have fun" was saying that for a reason.
/r/seduction19/08/24 05:01 PM
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Assuming alcohol is involved, women tend to do things they would normally stop themselves from doing when sober. They also tend to get judged negatively, mostly by their friends, when they hook up with a guy in a bar/club.
/r/seduction19/08/24 03:56 PM
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This statement is more likely to be repeated by women who aren't exactly happy with their love lives. Keep that in mind. The truth is the bar is actually quite low if you want to get with any woman, and are willing to settle to do so. But of course, you'll be settling for women you aren't attracted to or women who are attractive but have some serious character flaws. If you're not willing to lower your own standards, then the bar is high but you're ultimately setting the bar high for yourself.
/r/seduction19/08/24 03:41 PM
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These are grown women going out of their way to approach a grown man in a club. Nothing inherently wrong with that.
/r/seduction15/08/24 04:04 PM
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Thanks for pointing that out. The less the better, and 0 is ideal. Possible exception to the rule though: if you're following a female influencer's account for reasons other than thirst traps. For example, if she's a female DJ/music producer whose mixes and music you enjoy, female comedian who you find funny, etc. Sometimes these accounts do post the odd picture that could be seen as a thirst trap, but of course you should consider if they're relying on their looks vs. have quality content and j…
/r/seduction14/08/24 04:32 PM
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Whenever girls do this, the best policy is to assume they aren't interested and act accordingly. Yes, some women who are interested in you will test you this way, but even if you pass then there will be a new test. Do you really want to be with the kind of girl who constantly tests you and makes you jump through hoops to prove your worth to her? The best kind of girls are the ones who make it easy for you to pursue them, they are out there.
/r/seduction01/08/24 03:36 PM
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It stings, but it's just part of the game unfortunately.
/r/seduction19/07/24 10:24 PM
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You're recognizing it, you're already halfway there. I don't think the victim mentality is your main problem per se, it's just a symptom. Right now you don't know what you're doing wrong: you've hit a roadblock so your brain is reverting back to victim mentality to cope. If I could give you any advice to move forward, it would be to look at your behaviour and what you're doing that causes these outcomes. There's always a pattern and the common denominator is you. This is, in my opinion, the hard…
/r/seduction18/07/24 11:24 PM
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These women have a warped perception of men. They conflate problematic men with being more attractive and fun, and more stable men with being boring and nice.
/r/seduction08/06/24 04:31 PM
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Because women vote, and some very loud women's groups will raise a very big stink if politicians do. Politicians take threats to their job security more seriously than anything else.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/24 05:40 PM
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Of course, what do you think I'm doing? 😅 I've only had 3 failed kiss attempts in my lifetime, and pretty much all of them were giving off at least some signals that a reasonable person would expect to be positive. I was also much more inexperienced at the time. Reading the room is important and I've always made an effort to. Unfortunately you can't fully read someone's mind, and sometimes awkwardness ensues.
/r/seduction03/06/24 11:59 PM
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Women are fickle, especially in today's day and age where the average woman is of the mindset to always be on the lookout for the next best thing. Just is what it is
/r/seduction02/06/24 06:45 PM
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I can say I've never regretted going in for a kiss, not even on attempts that went awkward.
/r/seduction02/06/24 06:16 PM
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Dude. Whether or not she's promiscuous is irrelevant in this situation. She's obviously not interested in you, this just comes off as you being salty about that. Just move on and stop letting her live rent free in your head like that. The only time you should worry about a girl being promiscuous is if she's an actual prospect for a relationship (i.e mutual interest, you're actively dating her). EDIT: To answer your question specifically, the main indicator of a promiscuous woman is her overall v…
/r/seduction29/05/24 06:25 PM
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The secret is having a situationship/FWB that you hit up when you strike out.
/r/seduction24/05/24 06:13 PM
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The girls will feel safer in numbers, and the guys have more opportunities to find girls who are willing to sleep with them. As long as the dudes aren't expecting to get laid, win-win for everyone.
/r/seduction22/05/24 09:12 PM
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You just answered your own question. It's literally because you're actively pursuing fat women even when you don't seem to want to. It's coming from your scarcity mindset. Not only that, but the time spent pursuing these fat women is taking away the time you could be spending with non fat women. It's all a numbers game. When I was just starting out it took time for me to be able to pull the women I was actually interested in. Keep at it my friend!
/r/seduction17/05/24 08:37 PM
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I don't think you did anything wrong here. It takes two to tango in any sort of entanglement, and situationships are tricky. People change their priorities and learn things about themselves all the time, and these women probably realize that situationships aren't what they want. Not every relationship/situationship ending means that one person did something bad. A lot of the time it's just incompatibility. If these women are looking for relationships then turning down legit friendship is the rig…
/r/seduction09/05/24 07:06 PM
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Well what do you like better about her? Your best shot of getting her is to keep her around a bit longer, maybe ask her out again and see if she's ready to go out. If she's still saying "too early" after a whole month, then assume she isn't into you. You very well might end up liking the other girl better once you go out with her and get to know her in person. Chatting over DM doesn't build rapport.
/r/seduction08/05/24 02:26 PM
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Go on the date with the other girl, but don't post about it on social media because nothing good will come of it. As guys we hate it when girls play games, don't be part of that problem.
/r/seduction08/05/24 02:08 PM
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Generally speaking, no. Nothing inherently wrong with two consenting adults dating each other if they are compatible with one another. At age 18 you're young and dumb, but if an 18 year old woman is old enough to sign up to risk her life in war then she's old enough to be dating a grown man. That being said, you should expect that younger women are going to think and do some stupid shit that can be chalked up to age and inexperience. Ignore the Redditors with a hate-boner. Most of them want any …
/r/seduction07/05/24 11:10 PM
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It's possible. Many lesbians out there might experiment with men to see if they're bi, or might in fact turn out to be bi.
/r/seduction07/05/24 02:04 PM
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I was also 20 once and very much in a similar boat. Experience with women in high school and late teens (18-19) was limited at best. I wasn't exactly a popular kid in school At 20 I was at university in a large city so there was no shortage of women. Being in the right place is only quarter of the battle. The next quarter is stepping outside of your comfort zone and talking to women. The next quarter is getting comfortable with the inevitable rejection that you're going to face. The next quarter…
/r/seduction03/05/24 09:59 PM
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Gentlemen, if you want your girlfriend to be more feminine and less combative this is a perfect example of what not to do. Gonna be hard to recover from this one, but going forward I would suggest: Don't unironically send sexist memes to women, just don't. It never goes over well. Learn to put your money where your mouth is. She caught you in a lie there.
/r/seduction02/05/24 03:11 PM
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Sounds stupid, but I kept telling myself that someday I would be better with women and pushed myself to do what it took to get better. I started putting myself in places where women hung out, and forced myself to talk to them. I took salsa/bachata lessons, which was a massive help in getting me used to being close to women. I asked them out on dates if I liked them. I pushed myself outside of my comfort zone. I kept thinking positively. Women are drawn to positivity, they are repelled by negativ…
/r/seduction02/05/24 12:19 PM
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The basis of the theory has some truth to it, but the problem is that the theory in itself is rather ambiguous at best. People have made up their own interpretations of the theory and ran with it. And a lot of those people have cherry picked aspects of the theory to support what they think is right. Most people only care about issues that immediately affect them. Intersectionality seems to be most popular among feminists, who are overwhelmingly women, so most development of the theory has been d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/24 07:27 PM
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Funny thing is I see a lot of feminists on Reddit absolutely shitting on menslib, despite the fact that the guys on those subreddit do nothing but pander.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/24 07:09 PM
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Best response is to not entertain a response at all. It's pure ragebait, anyone who asks you something like that has made up their mind and is looking for an excuse to start a fight. Remember, you don't win an internet argument by proving the other person wrong, you win by not being the first to get triggered.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/24 06:58 PM
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A few simple things you can do: Don't pretend to like something she does, or agree with something she thinks when you really don't. If she loves country music and you hate it, be honest about it. If she believes in corporal punishment and you don't, tell her that you don't agree with her. If she's doing something that you don't like or you feel like it's crossing your boundaries, push back. A lot of "nice guys" will keep their mouths shut and this sends the message to her that this is okay. If s…
/r/seduction29/04/24 04:23 PM
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Nah that's a simp move
/r/seduction26/04/24 02:58 PM
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The groups were an awful idea to begin with. Completely inevitable that they would be abused by jilted women who want to dox men as revenge for whatever petty reason. Thankfully quite a few women don't take these groups seriously at all, and they're the ones worth dating. Still though, you never know which women are going to post your face and identifying info on there.
/r/seduction24/04/24 04:53 PM
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Only books I ever needed to read were Models and No More Mr Nice Guy. Good blog resources were Girls Chase and Dr Nerdlove. I also found a lot of tips on this subreddit helpful, particularly for OLD. This was back in the mid 2010s when the dating market wasn't in the toilet like it is now though. I never bought a course, IMO they're a waste of money.
/r/seduction24/04/24 03:32 PM
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One thing I learned was that you need to be more polarizing, and a huge part of that is being comfortable speaking your truth no matter what others think. Being nice is great if you want women to like you, but they will never love you for simply being nice. When you're polarizing, they tend towards "love you or hate you". The tricky part is getting comfortable with the fact that some women will get upset by you, but that is the price you pay for getting laid more easily. At the same time, you ca…
/r/seduction22/04/24 07:31 PM
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Another thing that comes off as creepy IMO is when you're visibly hitting on every girl present at a club, especially if you're doing it in quick succession. After a while all the women will pick up on you being that one thirsty/desperate guy. And yeah don't do any of those things mentioned, it won't get you anywhere.
/r/seduction15/04/24 08:18 PM
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Creepy: Persisting after she says no, getting too grabby, gawking at her boobs while talking to her, grinding against her randomly without her permission, saying weird/inappropriate stuff to her, coming off as desperate/needy, basically doing anything socially unacceptable. Non-creepy: Not doing any of the above, showing respect, politely moving on after she says no.
/r/seduction15/04/24 03:26 PM
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I mean the dude was transient and had severe mental health issues. At age 40 that would definitely get in the way of finding a girlfriend. No point speculating until more info comes out. We may never know the motive. Mental illness is no joke.
/r/seduction15/04/24 02:41 PM
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In itself, no. What exactly is creepy about looking for women who also want to hook up? Answer: as long as you're not being creepy about it, nothing. It is often a waste of time though. I find that I can't get in the right headspace if I'm not even enjoying myself, so I put my primary focus on having a good time and let women come secondary to that.
/r/seduction15/04/24 02:32 PM
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The best time to start was yesterday, the next best time to start is today.
/r/seduction12/04/24 03:37 PM
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This is not just you. When I was young and clueless about women, I noticed that I tended to get lucky more often when I gave less fucks about getting with women. Learning that was the easy part, learning how to channel that energy consistently was the hard part. Three things going on here: Women find neediness unattractive (and most men do too). There is a correlation (and arguably causation) with the amount of energy you put into women vs. how needy you are/come off as. When you focus less ener…
/r/seduction12/04/24 03:36 PM
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The key is acting putting honesty and authenticity first. Choose your actions and words more based on what you truly think and feel, instead of basing them on what you think others want to see from you. The pitfall most nice guys have is that they're nice to the point that they will be nice even when it's dishonest to be so, mostly to themselves. A trap that a lot of nice guys trying to drop the nice guy personality is they start acting like jackasses just for the sake of being jackasses. Be car…
/r/seduction10/04/24 07:00 PM
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The number one rule of bedroom logic, is logic goes completely out the window. Calling a woman "fuckmeat" in a normal context will probably be seen as offensive or degrading, but if you're both naked and about to get freaky chances are it'll get her going.
/r/seduction10/04/24 05:49 PM
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Might as well just get an AI girlfriend at that rate
/r/seduction09/04/24 06:25 PM
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The most beautiful word in any language is your own name.
/r/seduction04/04/24 04:15 PM
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There isn't an "ideal" male IG profile, but there are plenty of examples of what not to do. Don't: Follow an excessive amount of OF thots and thirst trap accounts, because that will just make you look like a coomer. Post or repost porn on your feed/stories. It's just tacky AF. Post bad selfies Use IG as a public diary or overshare about your life Post negative stuff Do: Have a few good pictures of your full body Put effort into your pictures Emphasize quality over quantity Make sure you have rec…
/r/seduction27/03/24 04:39 PM
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Quite a common scenario. The best strategy is to interact less online/via text and interact more in person. Both interactions create a very different dynamic, and only one builds attraction (hint: it's not texting/online).
/r/seduction21/03/24 03:12 PM
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Pretty much what OP is saying, they make it easy for you to seduce them if they like you
/r/seduction18/03/24 01:14 PM
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Reframe it this way: do you think girls should be mean to guys they like? Is that the way you want to be treated by someone? Trying to pursue a woman who treats you like garbage never ends well.
/r/seduction17/03/24 08:05 PM
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You can't, she's made up her mind and only she can change it. Unless you're okay with being just friends for the foreseeable future, don't waste any more time with her. EDIT: Want to also add, if you do remain being friends with her then make sure you don't stop looking for other women.
/r/seduction17/03/24 07:57 PM
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31m here, if you're able to attract hot girls despite being "older" then what's not to be happy about? A lot of dudes who could pull hot girls when they were younger lose their touch when they're older, and all they do is whine about their "glory days"
/r/seduction17/03/24 07:48 PM
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Finding a woman I can actually stand
/r/seduction13/03/24 09:19 PM
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"Creepy" is difficult to draw a line on because these days it's very arbitrary. It can vary what is defined as "creepy" depending on the situation, the dynamic, and of course the person. Saying "somebody's been doing their squats" to a chick you barely know on a dating app is... bold to say the least, and would generally be considered creepy. Saying that to your wife who you've been happily married to for 5 years is a totally different story. As a general rule, I probably wouldn't say that unles…
/r/seduction07/03/24 04:45 PM
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It is at least somewhat gendered. Yes, it's true that both men and women can be fleeting when it comes to attraction, but that's in the scenario when you have an abundance of options. In a nightclub environment (which OP is talking about), women on average tend to have a much easier time getting with a man, than men do getting with a woman. OP is just pointing out social dynamics in a nightclub/party environment work.
/r/seduction05/03/24 07:49 PM
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There are some women out there who do actually prefer to date less attractive dudes, but their reasoning usually boils down to "because he's less likely to cheat on me". In the cases where it isn't, it's usually because those women aren't exactly lookers themselves.
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:49 PM
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I dunno about you, but I could personally never be with a person like this. Forget her feminist beliefs for a second, she clearly has a victim mentality. I've dealt with a lot of people like this before and from my experience, this is where it ends up: She will blame everything and everyone but herself for her problems and shortcomings, even when she only has herself to blame. There will be zero accountability on her part. You'll feel like you have to walk on eggshells because you never know wha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/24 11:42 PM
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Internet and social media algorithms are to blame here. Not only did the internet allow entitled people to find and validate each other, the algorithms make them go viral because they get the most views. The result is that young, impressionable people see these peoples' hot takes and think that this is how you're supposed to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:46 PM
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All safe spaces are bad for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:42 PM

The person doing the shaming tends to feel personally attacked about not meeting those preferences Either that, or many people believe that men are inherently oppressive to women. Male preferences = oppressing women = bad
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:36 PM
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Plenty of men out there who will take whatever they can get. Even if that means dating a woman who did something morally reprehensible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:29 PM
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Case by case basis, my friend. Sometimes it's one person's fault, sometimes it's both people's fault, sometimes it's nobody's fault. It's BOTH partners' responsibility to fix it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:27 PM
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I wouldn't rule it out entirely. US media conglomerates are making bank off of the gender war. If they didn't manufacture it, they certainly have an interest in keeping it going as long as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:24 PM
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God I hate her smug grin
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/24 10:01 PM
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A couple of scenarios I can think of: A lot of men have a lot of internalized shame stemming from the "men bad" messaging, and are afraid to assert themselves because they're afraid of getting into trouble for being too aggressive. As a result they're conditioned to be extremely passive around women, which ultimately draws controlling women to them. A lot of men are also afraid of being alone and don't believe that they can do any better, so they take what they can get even if it means toleratin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:09 PM
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Just the fact that they're posting that meme makes them not much different from MGTOW
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:57 PM
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If you want to go your own way then do it, all the more power to you. I find it cringe when WGTOW/MGTOW say they are "going their own way" but really just spend all their time on the internet complaining about the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:57 PM
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I treat women with respect when I deem them worthy of it, pretty much the same as any man. I set my best example of what equality should look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:53 PM

Some people also have problems with men who are attracted to femininity But idk
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 06:18 PM

Sounds super weird Then in her second message, she describes her hobbies, then goes straight for "Would you date or have sex with a trans woman or a man?" ... I gave my honest reply that I would date anyone I found attractive, but that I've only ever found feminine people attractive. My guess is one of those people who take gender-ideology way too seriously. Good thing you didn't waste your time with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:43 PM

3/4, good morning to you too!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:40 PM

Lol gave me a good laugh
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:38 PM
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Assholes get laid in spite of being assholes, not because they're assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 04:11 PM
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In general, the standards are lower than relationship material for me. At minimum I have to be somewhat attracted to her. Have to enjoy her company, but not necessarily be a personality I can stand in a relationship The easier the lay, the lower my standards will be If she's open to certain things (i.e. anal, sex in public, road head) I'll probably lower my other standards as well
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 09:41 PM
2

While I don't doubt that some women end up in sticky situations, I see the whole "I was manipulated into this" thing very commonly being used as a smokescreen for Western women to sidestep accountability for their own poor decisions. "Poor decisions" doesn't even necessarily have to mean that she chose a bad partner either. Some of these women probably chose partners who aren't objectively bad partners at all, maybe they're just incompatible or maybe they're just upset that their boyfriends/husb…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 08:13 PM
1

I don't have a problem with my SO posting pictures on social media, but if she were selling nudes or doing OF then I'd have a problem with that. I don't have a problem with my SO dressing sexy to go out clubbing with her friends, but I'd have a problem if she doesn't also dress sexy for me at all. I don't have a problem with my SO having male friends, as long as boundaries are respected (i.e. no hanging out alone late at night, no sharing beds). I don't care what anyone says, watching porn is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:47 PM
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When we see people venting about their dating/relationship grievances on the internet I notice the following: When it's men airing their grievances, the average person tends to overestimate the extent that the man is at fault for his own problems. However, when women air their grievances we tend to underestimate the extent that she's at fault for her own grievances. I believe this caused by the "women are wonderful" bias, and the "men are oppressors, women are victims narrative". When a man is g…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 10:05 PM

Just acceptance of the fact that other people are going to make decisions in partner choice that will absolutely baffle other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:39 PM
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Things to keep in mind about the women pushing these ideas: They just want men they find undesirable to stop approaching them They're probably not the kind of women you want to be approaching anyway They do not speak for all women When I was single, I just ignored these so-called rules and approached women anyway. As long as you keep time/place in mind, there's nothing inherently wrong or problematic with simply approaching a woman as long as you leave her alone if she says she's not interested.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:33 PM
1

If I ever had a daughter, the one thing I would strongly advise her to do is never trust a male feminist. Not only do their fellow men not trust them, plenty of women don't trust them either. These men almost always turn out to be some of the most pathetic slimeballs that should be embarrassed to call themselves men. Besides that, I would tell her to seek out a man who has a job, treats her right, makes her feel safe, makes her feel comfortable, and most importantly is able to co-exist in a rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:18 PM
1

Redpill Female hypergamy is real. Most if not all women want a man who can not only provide for her, but has high status as well. Looks matter to women. There are women out there who do have a "hoe phase" and eventually try to settle down with a boring, safe guy. Bluepill Personality matters. Women don't automatically hit a wall when they turn 30. The whole 80/20 thing isn't as absolute as people say it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:01 PM
2

For me personally, it's #1. I'd only date if it enhances my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:00 PM
2

I don't mind providing resources for a woman, but I will only ever provide financially for a woman who has shown me that she actually deserves it. I won't ever settle for less. Let's say certain types of girls wouldn't give you the time of day in the past, or were just too difficult to deal with and wasted your time. Now a couple of years later you been hitting the gym, landed that good job/business, got a hot car, etc. Now those ladies from the past are a little older, Don't look as good as the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 08:56 PM
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You can't prevent it entirely, but you can take steps to mitigate the risk. The key is to vet the person you're getting with, and make sure that they fit the criteria you'd want in a long term partner. Don't assume that they will change or you can change them. For example, a lot of men in DB relationships get with low-libido women or women who aren't attracted to them, and stick around in hopes that it will "get better". Similarly, if they change in a way you don't like them evaluate whether you…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 06:54 PM
1

I do categorize women into "hook up" vs "relationship" material, but I don't have Madonna Whore complex. Madonna Whore complex is when you marry a woman, but have a hard time doing certain sexual things with her that you would probably do with a woman you don't give a fuck about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 06:41 PM
2

That would be a massive red flag to me. I know people, including some of my own relatives, whose single mothers didn't put their children first. It's never been good.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:41 PM
2

I almost dated a woman once who couldn't take accountability for herself if her life depended on it, and wanted me to kowtow to whatever she wanted. I was smitten for her at first, but thankfully I snapped out of it and saw her for what she really was. You deal with these women by getting away from them as far as possible the second they show the signs, or better yet not dealing with them at all in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 07:33 PM
2

It really boils down to the kid coming first, which is of course the way it should be. This does create a set of unique issues that would otherwise not be a problem with dating a childless woman, and most would simply rather not deal with those issues. Some examples include: Baby daddy is likely going to be in the picture somehow, and chances are he will be a threat to the relationship. Maybe he sees you as a threat and will cause drama to make your life miserable. Maybe she's got some unfinishe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 07:28 PM
2

There isn't any justification for cheating. If you want to sow your wild oats then stay single or find a woman who is okay with you sleeping around with other women... whatever that may entail.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:57 PM
1

They're more well equipped to succeed in their romantic/sexual pursuits, and pass on their genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:50 PM
3

Capacity for malice isn't a gendered trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:49 PM
0

I crave a wife who loves me, is good to me, and is willing to be a team with me. What I don't want is a woman who just hopes to kick back and relax, doing as little as possible while expecting the Earth from me. I'm fine with doing my fair share of housework and chores if she's working. I'm also completely fine with her being a stay-at-home wife while I provide for us. Whatever we decide/agree that works best for us. If she doesn't want to do housework and we can hire cleaners, she can work to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:16 PM

Yes. I want a relationship with a real, human woman. I don't want to masturbate with a high tech sex toy for the rest of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 04:47 PM
2

I think depends on the specific topic, but overall speaking we shouldn't just leave them out of all conversations about sex and gender issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 05:49 PM
2

Because there's a very loud subset of women who get triggered by men having preferences that they don't fit, and their coping mechanism is to invalidate the preference. This is made worse by people (male and female) who aren't necessarily affected negatively by these preferences, but will virtue signal about them anyway (even if they don't practice what they preach). It's mostly teenagers and nutjobs on the internet who are like this, of course. I was a teen in the 00's and I had a couple girls …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:30 PM
1

There's nothing inherently beta about making romantic gestures in itself. "Betaness" is when you have no backbone. For example, sending flowers to a woman who treats you like garbage is a beta move. Sending flowers to a woman who treats you like a king is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 07:53 PM
2

Categorical/binary thinking makes things easier to understand, especially for the perpetually online men and women that make up a large chunk of the userbase in these spaces. Fundamentally speaking, we make decisions and build beliefs based on probabilities. At the end of the day we all innately desire to make the world as easy to understand as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 07:51 PM
1

It's not so much that men like bitchy women so much as it's that men tend to be (on average) more tolerant of BS from women than the other way around, especially if the sex is good and/or she's good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:53 PM
1

Honestly, as long as the relationship is between two adults who are capable of consenting I could care less about what their actual ages are. Older man/younger woman is no different than older woman/younger man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:27 PM
3

That's still projection either way lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 05:58 PM
3

Main positives for being with a promiscuous woman: She's going to be better in bed, and probably down for more things. She'll probably put out quicker. If you want something less serious, she's going to be a lot more open to that. These are all likely, but not necessarily guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 05:58 PM
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I doubt that women who spend a lot of time on the internet bashing men are exactly secure about their ability to attract younger men, let alone men their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:49 PM
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The same women calling older guys who date younger women creeps, will say "YASS QWEEN" to older woman dating younger guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 06:54 PM
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The main argument I always see is "young girls are easy to manipulate, there's a power imbalance blah blah blah" I think they're just projecting what they would do if they were dating a younger guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 06:27 PM
1

I live in a very diverse area where interracial dating is very common, so for the most part no. There are some people who do stick to their own race/nationality of course, but overall nobody really cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 07:31 PM
3

High n-count women do not bother me. I don't have any "wall" revenge fantasy; plenty of women don't hit the "wall" at age 30, but if they do it's really not my problem either. In general I find revenge fantasies a waste of time. I don't even hate individual simps per se, but I absolutely loathe simping behaviours. I myself used to be a simp and I'm embarrassed that I ever stooped that low, and seeing guys do that just makes me feel second-hand embarrassment for them. Not to mention, the act of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 07:27 PM
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I find it's mostly older women that get triggered by seeing age-gap relationships with an older man. My guess is that a lot of these older women are jealous, insecure, or bitter. Yes, it's true that there are some older guys who date younger women because they have some sort of agenda. But guess what? Every single demographic of person (gender, age, orientation, etc) in the dating pool can have an agenda, or worse yet be predatory. There are young dudes who seek out insecure women their age. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 07:03 PM
1

Toxicity attracts toxicity. Toxic men attract toxic women, and vice versa. I'm genuinely at a loss, why should I strive to be the perfect good guy when you get sloppy seconds for it? both Physically and Emotionally. I think you're conflating non-toxic with being a doormat nice guy when that's not the case. Similarly, a lot of people use the word "toxic" as an insult towards people who have boundaries and standards they don't like (look at the whole Jonah Hill hullabaloo as an example). Nobody is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:38 PM

Two words: Social Media
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:07 PM
2

There is been a constant trope about men being terrible partners, manipulative, violent, and neglectful online. You hear the outcries of women all over social media crying about "where are the good men"? If you look at TwoX, most of their posts have an abundance of terrible instances they have had with men. You realize that TwoX and other similar spaces on social media aren't an accurate representation of all women right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 03:42 PM

Most men and women who complain about their struggles on the internet are just here to find validation, and will side with people who validate their viewpoint. They don't care about hearing out the other side, and at worst they don't think the other side is deserving of empathy. That's why we have this whole "who has it harder" olympics. In reality, its impossible to say if men or women have it harder. Women have some things harder than men, men have some things harder than women. Some women hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:50 PM
6

The whole "defend the sisterhood" idea is mostly a thing with perpetually-online women, IRL only a handful of women are really like this. Even then, from what I've seen the "defend the sisterhood" women are extremely vicious towards the women who don't agree with them. What I've observed as well is most of the "defend the sisterhood" type women only do so when it personally benefits them. IRL women aren't as monolithic as perpetually-online women, there's far more diversity and nuance in how the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:31 PM
3

At best perpetual doormats end up in unsatisfying relationships/marriages that are dead bedrooms or end in a divorce or breakup that leaves them emotionally wrecked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:03 AM
1

Lol is this a shitpost? Start buying your own clothes instead of getting your mother to. Ditch the video game T-Shirts and get yourself some plain coloured t-shirts. Go on places like /r/malefashionadvice for advice on how to dress better. Some do's and don'ts on how to dress to impress. Don't wear what you wear at home or if you're running a quick errand (i.e. basketball shorts and a Call of Duty t-shirt). It just screams low-effort slacker, girls get the ick from that. Do dress reasonably for …
/r/seduction02/01/24 06:24 PM

Intelligence is still very much valued, it's just that there's more than one way to be intelligent. Two examples are "book smart" and "people smart". Book smarts are valued, but people smarts are what give you the actual skills to be successful in dating and relationships. People who are very book smart often aren't very people smart, and as such tend to struggle with dating. This is what gives the impression that intelligence isn't valued, when really these people just lack the interpersonal sk…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:48 PM
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As a man who's been a doormat in the past, being alone is a far better alternative. Trust me on that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:08 PM
3

Simps have always existed. There are a lot of guys out there who struggle to date, so they compensate for that by tolerating more bullshit than they want to. In recent years though a lot of women are adopting the "I am the table" mentality, no thanks to TikTok and other social media rabbit holes during COVID. Of course, more confident men won't waste time putting up with their bullcrap, so their options are limited to men who are doormats, which many of them seem to be totally fine with. It's re…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:08 PM
5

Yep, even women I've talked to agree that women taking Heard's side are nutjobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 02:56 AM
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It certainly exists on the internet. I remember reading a post where OP described his wife not working, cooking, or cleaning, instead just sitting on the couch all day and letting herself go, and that he wanted to divorce her. Most of the upvoted comments were just the Reddit hivemind dogpiling on him for being a shallow asshole, being completely insensitive to her depression, and calling him an idiot who deserves to be miserable. On the countless posts where it's the husband that does absolutel…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 09:13 PM
15

💯 A lot of people seem to have a problem with this opinion, making the whole "well what if she's traumatized?" argument. Like that's fine, if she's traumatized she doesn't have to do those things, but that doesn't mean you're obligated to stay with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 08:57 PM
7

It depends what it is, how important it is to me, and most importantly the subtext behind it. In general, I prefer if a woman were willing to put the same or more efforts to me as she did with exes, but that doesn't necessarily I want her to do the exact same things. For example, I wouldn't really care for her to bring me lunch to work every day, if she did that for her ex. Sometimes I just want to get my own lunch sorted. On the other hand, if she was more sexually open with exes then with me s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 08:53 PM
10

Most of these posts are either made up, or the OP is deliberately writing the story a certain way to drum up more sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 08:44 PM
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I tend to notice this as well, especially in online circles. If a man has an insecurity, he's told that he needs to pull up his socks and work on it. If a woman has an insecurity, it's totally valid because it's someone else's fault and they have to put in the work to make her feel better.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/12/23 10:54 PM
1

It really depends on what your definition of simping is. My personal definition of simping is "Investing an inappropriate amount of time, effort, emotions, money, or resources into someone who has not shown you that they deserve" I agree that some guys have broadened the definition way too far, but at the same time there are way too many dumbasses who think that simping is just "misogynist speak" for treating a woman with respect. This is bad. This creates a false dichotomy. When I was younger I…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:58 PM
2

Putting on my armchair psychologist hat and brosciencing here, so feel free to take my opinion with a grain of salt. The manifestation of toxic masculinity is in many cases, rooted in a sense of toxic shame about masculinity, as well as a craving for female approval. Many guys who end up becoming hardcore red/blackpillers initially started out with self-loathing for being born a man, and after one too many bad experiences with women they notice that "jerks" have more success with women, so they …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:15 PM

Speaking from experience and observations, the men who fall in with abusive, manipulative women tend to have the following traits: Low self esteem or confidence Don't have much dating experience or struggle with women Passive doormats, have a hard time saying no or standing up for themselves when their boundaries are crossed Overly nice people pleasers Conflict-averse and risk-averse, don't like to rock the boat or upset the status quo On some level, feel a sense of shame about masculinity or th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:01 PM

I'm marrying a woman who was overweight as a child/teen, but lost the weight as she approached her 20s. In general, it's something I respect in both men and women. We should be encouraging and rewarding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:37 PM
1

I believe that a lot of men out there don't succeed with dating because they don't want to work for it at all, or don't want to do the work they should be doing. Men who don't want to work for it at all: not saying that they're all overweight neckbeard basement dwellers, but a lot of men on the internet seem more content to just whine about their lack of dating success and find every excuse they can to not lift a finger to do anything about it. Men who don't want to do the work they should be do…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:28 PM

I'm what I call reality-pilled. A hardcore red-pilled dude would think I'm a beta cuck soyboy whiteknight, while a hardcore blue-pilled dude would think I'm a misogynistic alt-right Tate-worshipper. I believe that red/blue pills tend towards binary thinking, while completely ignoring nuance. I learned about red/blue pills from the internet obviously. I started out more "blue pilled", but quite a few bad experiences with women led to me realizing firsthand that there is indeed a degree of truth t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:43 PM
21

Women on average handle rejection far worse than men do
/r/seduction18/12/23 01:52 PM
1

No. Like it or not, men's issues is a very controversial subject, and there is a huge stigma against talking about it unless the talking points have the "feminist stamp of approval", and even then said "stamp of approval" is arbitrary. At best feminist groups tend to think misandry isn't a big deal, and at worst refuse to acknowledge that it exists. There's also a certain subset of people who have no qualms whatsoever about doxxing people who don't agree with them. Those people would be very lik…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/23 07:30 PM
1

Feminism is an extremely popular movement for entitled women, largely due to the pop-feminism that's been prevalent in magazines, blogs, and now social media for decades.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/23 05:02 PM
1

Horseshoe theory is real
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/23 04:54 PM
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Because men's issues aren't, and shouldn't be mutually exclusive from other social issues. The left, despite all the loony woke people, is still largely propped up by left-leaning centrists who think that said loony woke people are batshit insane. The dark side of party based democracy (and politics in general) is throwing in your lot with people you vehemently disagree with, because there are others you vehemently disagree with even more. The left is no monolithic hive mind (and for that matter…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/23 04:42 PM
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Women: "Men should open up more and talk about their feelings" Also Women: "Men's need to stop trauma dumping on women" It's just the latest buzzword used by women who want to put in as little effort as possible in their relationships.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/23 04:04 PM
1

There are plenty of female movements (i.e. FDS, whatever you call the feminism on TikTok these days) that are advocating for hate and disrespect of men that are rampant on social media these days. But feel free to keep sticking your head in the sand if that makes you feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 04:25 PM
2

There isn't. These women either have bad taste in men, or they're probably the problem themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 07:16 PM
1

It's literally the female version of that shit. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:55 PM
1

It is a true and very sad reality that an empathy gap exists for men that doesn't exist for women. The point I was making wasn't to excuse or justify women having this attitude. I was pointing out how many women (especially on the internet) adopt this attitude. I'll make it clear though that the women who engage in man-bashing and make blanket statements that completely invalidate male struggles are insufferable losers. I don't bother engaging with those people and just see them for what they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:57 PM
6

Hanlon's Razor is in effect here: "Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by ignorance", or in this case ignorance. While I do believe that there is a very vocal minority of women out there who genuinely to their core want to subdue men into conformity, nobody is a monolithic hivemind and you can't assume that all women genuinely believe that to their core (if you actually talk to real life women, most of them don't). As you stated, women don't have the same lived experiences…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:44 PM

For me at least it's nothing to do with oppression olympics or "winning", it's about making society better for men and women. And I believe that part of that is acknowledging that there is an empathy gap for men. Women/people/society expect a lot of empathy for women for their struggles, so it's only fair that men can expect that level of empathy for their own struggles right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 04:10 PM
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Some individual women have moderated their feminist views or abandoned them outright together, but sadly I don't think this is happening en masse. What's really going on is new media, especially opinionated blogs like Jezebel, is shifting to social media and podcasts. Jezebel is just the latest casualty in this shift. Women are just getting their edgy feminist hogwash fix from other places like TikTok, YouTube, Reddit, Twitter/X, Medium, Substance, podcasts, etc now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/23 02:19 PM
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Major win, fuck that website and the absolute garbage it poisoned women's minds with!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/23 02:02 PM

I'm surprised you never heard the term platespinnning, but maybe it's older? Figurative of course
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 03:15 PM
1

I'm not here for dating advice. I'm here to hear different perspectives and opinions from different people, even if I disagree with them, because I might learn something. I want to understand why others think the way they do, and I hope I can provide insight as to why people have opinions they disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:00 PM
1

It happens with every generation, Gen Z isn't unique to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 06:24 PM

I haven't used hinge but there's a paid version. There is a height filter to encourage more women to use the app, so the male users have more incentive to pay for the subscription.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 06:23 PM
1

I practiced platespinnning when I was single. Talking to multiple women at the same time helped me not become too attached to one woman, and as a result I was able to not act as needy/desperate in the early stages of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 06:20 PM

It's totally unfair, but Hinge is an app by a private corporation. They don't care about fairness, they care about profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 06:09 PM

Female virginity doesn't have the same stigma as male virginity does in society. Even for guys who don't prize female virginity, it's seen as irrelevant at best. Even though freshly non-virgin women might have the same problems a fresh non-virgin man would (i.e. get too emotionally attached, clingy, etc), men tend to have a higher tolerance for those problems than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 01:09 AM
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It's one thing if it's just an excuse (which I was referring to because that's what you asked) vs being because she has a genuine constant headache. If it's a genuine headache then of course she should say it's a headache. With that being said, if she has a constant headache that's interfering with intimacy, like it or not it's going to cause problems in the relationship. In this situation, her and her man need to sit down and have a discussion with the theme of "Hey this is a problem, how do we…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 11:48 PM

It's not that people know right off the bat, it's that the truth will come out sooner or later. When you get to know someone more closely, there are some clues that they might be a virgin. A couple of examples: They get noticeably quiet when the sex conversations happen, or they might talk about it in a way that gives off the vibe they have no idea what they're talking about When escalating intimately with someone into "unknown territory", the person starts to fumble Even if those clues aren't p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 10:36 PM
1

We don't want her to starfish or fake enjoy sex, we just want an honest "No thanks I'm not in the mood for sex." We might not be happy to hear that in the moment, but in the long run the honesty is appreciated far more than lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 10:15 PM
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A huge part of the solution is about having standards and boundaries for yourself when it comes to what women you allow to be your romantic partners, and not wasting time with women who don't satisfy your standards. Vetting potential partners early on in the dating stage is crucial to this. Make sure she shares the same values as you, that she appears to like you, that you like her, whether or not she invests effort back, that you both have good sex, how she treats other people, etc. Believe it …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:16 PM
2

It depends on the specific community, happens more in some than others. In places like AskMen and MensRights you see it quite often, arguably moreso in MensRights than AskMen. MensRights is a broader audience than here; you see more men who are right wing or socially conservative, so naturally you tend to see it more there. But with that being said, the focus isn't misogyny per se, it's just that the misogynists tend to latch on. It's the unfortunate ugly side of men's issues communities. As for…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/23 07:37 PM
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