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Personally, I have a weakness for them. Though I argue it's not so much the wokeness itself as the way it manifests. Men who can express themselves and talk about something they're passionate about (bonus points if the topic interests me as well) extensively are very attractive to me. It just so happens that woke guys tend to fall in that category irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 09:09 PM
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To me it ultimately comes down to "just because I want men to have more options in terms of socially acceptable ways to live their lives doesn't mean I as an individual I have to be willing to fuck every option." And I think that is a perfectly valid standpoint. In the same way that I think a man can believe in/promote the cause of body positivity while still having his own body preferences. Meanwhile, every single girl I know who's dating a questioning or gender non-conforming guy is a pansexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 08:38 PM
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"Unsuited" What does this even mean? Who determines who is qualified to fight for what? And what gives them the final say? I saw an recently article calling out members of the black community for claiming that Childish Gambino was unsuited to make "This is America" because he's always dated white women. Naturally, many think that that's total bullshit and the man should be allowed to date whoever he wants while fighting for whatever he wants. Others think it's hypocritical to speak out against i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 04:32 AM
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Generally there is, but I guess I'm kind of an exception. In terms of political ideology I tend to lean liberal/progressive. When I first came to this forum (different account) I started out BP, moved to Purple, then moved to no pill once I decided that my views on sex and dating don't quite align with any of the pills. Now I simply label myself "tradpill" because most of my stances are determined by my religious/tradcon beliefs. I think you would generally expect someone with those beliefs to l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 04:40 PM
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You know that there are users here who are more than happy to assume that women misrepresent their preferences out of some kind of malicious/strategic intent. Poppy is probably referring to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 06:46 AM
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Have you never even once read the history of lynching in the United States? Considering the fact that I'm black, live in the U.S., and have talked to relatives who were literally alive during the Jim Crow era, yes, yes I have. A black man could be lynched with little to no proof but a white woman's word. 30 witnesses could testify that a black woman was raped by a white man he could pay a little fine and be done with it. I'm pretty sure that's how it went. Chad can get away with anything, Tyrone…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 03:14 AM
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Based on what are you making that guess? I'm honestly curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 01:41 AM
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To some of us. The number of people on here who unironically believe that only unattractive nobodies are getting accused of assault is astounding. You know, the "Chad can get away with anything" crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 05:36 PM
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The original meaning still exists, I never claimed otherwise Then by definition the genetic fallacy would not apply in this context. When applied to words or phrases it explicitly refers to using an archaic meaning that is no longer widely used within the modern context to make a point. It does not refer to favoring an older, but still commonly used definition over another. Even the article you cited essentially builds up to the literary definition in it's introduction: "Entitlement even extends…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 05:50 AM
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No it isn't. Genetic fallacy is about using the original meaning of a term, a meaning that is no longer relevant, to make an argument in the present. That definition of male gaze is still the widely accepted one, making it just as culturally relevant, if not the most relevant. When you look up the term every single article and image reflects flaming's definition. That's hardly a defunct meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 12:02 AM
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Female High N (for us anything past zero is already pushing it, only gets worse from there; anything past first base counts toward N) Not willing to wait until marriage Disrespectful/rude Dislikes my family Arrogant Doesn't want kids Not willing to raise our kids Catholic Doesn't have at least a bachelor's degree Drugs, including MJ
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 10:44 PM
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Not necessarily. Many Asians, especially the younger generations, are beginning to scoff at the idea of being called a "model minority" because even they feel like they're not getting a good deal. Asians have been historically excluded from positions of leadership and management and are beginning to push back on that, especially the younger generations. They can "emulate and assimilate" until the cows come home but that rarely seems to be enough to hit the big leagues. The fact that they often p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 12:49 AM
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Is that the one who keeps posting drunken rants to RPW and getting them removed. Though to be fair the mod rejections go something like "our female users are too weak to handle your greatness", and they get into it with this one user who isn't afraid to call him on his crap (and gets heavily upvoted for it). So I guess that's a solid indication that a good chunk of the RP community is still firmly up his ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 07:29 PM
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I assume you're mainly speaking in terms of divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 11:03 AM
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My main problem with the "decline" theory is that it is often seems to be based in some kind of utopian tradcon fantasy that never existed. It's one thing to believe that this type of society would be ideal but pretending that that was the norm throughout recorded history and everything changed when feminism attacked is beyond cringey.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 10:51 AM
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In a bedroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 08:54 PM
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That is impractical/potentially illegal for its own host of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 04:00 PM
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Please define high n before this entire thread devolves into chaos
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 05:51 AM
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I'm not sure how productive that would be considering the fact that a giant chunk of sexual assault accusations involve alcohol iirc. I've never been drunk or buzzed before but I don't think that's exactly conducive to remembering to whip out a phone and record a consent video. If you're conscientious enough to do all that you're probably sober(ish), and if you're confident enough to film their consent the other person would probably also be sober(ish). And two sober people consenting to sex act…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 05:32 AM
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No worries lol. I only say it when I'm being a smartass with someone else who said it first.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 05:18 PM
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When I said as soon as we started seeing each other, I literally meant soon. I didn't get his signals at the time so I gave him the benefit of the doubt. It was about 3-4 hours or so in to our first date where he was asking if I wanted to snuggle on the back seat (took him at face value on that...I know, I was being naive). Waiting until marriage or no, I would say that's pretty...fast. Tbf like I said the guy was not lacking in the looks department, so I suspect he was pretty used to getting it…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 05:12 PM
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You have those priorities and then try to fuck and drink a few hours after meeting? Sounds counterintuitive to me, but to each his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 04:15 PM
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The ones who won't wait aren't the ones I'm looking for. Sorry not sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 04:07 PM
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"I want a girl who doesn't drink, party, or sleep around." I dated a guy once who shared a post like that word for word on his Instagram (for context he was 23 at the time, I was 18). I fit the criteria so I didn't really think twice about it. The majority of his male followers were conservative gym bro types, so of course they didn't mind. I have a feeling that the female followers were mainly there to check out his abs so they didn't care either. Anyway, cue him trying to take me out for drink…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 10:37 AM
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My case is pretty niche, but it's the one that stands out most for me personally. I used to struggle with getting guys to directly confess to me that waiting until marriage is a dealbreaker for them. The types who bitch about the "sluts" and then want the virgin to be their slut. They kind of vaguely dodged with some variation of "We won't do anything you're not comfortable with" and then tried to initiate it once I let my guard down. I seriously got called a tease/"mentally ill" once for turnin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 03:08 PM
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YMMV, but there's a difference between being able to stand on your own two feet without your partner and completely relishing that fact to the point where you end up in idgaf mode. After all, isn't the optimal TRP strategy avoiding LTRs? If so, it definitely comes through in the way that the relationship advice seems to play out. Based on the field reports I've seen on the subject many TRP users seem as if they just straight up don't give a shit about/even resent their partner to the point where…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 02:05 PM
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It makes men understand that they shouldn't take their partners for granted A big part of TRP seems to be reminding yourself (and your partner, indirectly) that she's replaceable. Kind of the opposite of "not taking them for granted."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 11:46 PM
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Yes, for me anyway. Considering that my favorite gifts are plushies, pens, and notebooks it's not like I ask for much though. Dude who can't make at least one of those happen would have to be cheap as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 04:30 AM
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Lol my Catholic school all-girl did all of that. There were multiple pregnancies each year.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 11:15 PM
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Hmm, interesting questions. Usually 2 and 4 see me as being indoctrinated or deceived by a fundamentalist upbringing, a common assumption. Once I make it clear to them that I am waiting until marriage by my own volition and reasoning they generally chill out. I also make it clear that these decisions are deeply personal and I do not judge women who do not do these things, and I also fully acknowledge the types of things that come with a marriage between two virgins (including some awkward or per…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 08:12 PM
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Would you say you get this negative reaction from men or women? Both, but different reasons. The trads I run with irl (both male and female) don't really care because they're doing the same thing as me. Non-trads (both sexes, but my sample is mainly made up of women because I rarely feel comfortable talking to men about sex irl) often think I'm crazy or even stupid for not wanting an experienced man since they're (allegedly?) better in bed. I've never been called "judgmental" outright, but I fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 05:57 PM
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I love when we begin debates here by assuming that positions that are heavily contested/debated in and of themselves are a given.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 04:18 PM
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As a female who gleefully enforces the virgin standard in her dating life now I can pretty much guarantee that I would probably get just as much crap as he did, so I'm not sure the double standard exists. Interestingly enough I have witnessed women like me getting similarly shamed on RPW by male mods because "something something men are different and sex can't subtract from their value, so your preferences are stupid." Basically justifying why a non-virgin man can demand a virgin while virgin wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 04:08 PM
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He's racked up several mod warnings for race-baiting. Probably hoping the "lot of words" will fly under their radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 07:24 PM
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"She’s a little shy, so I just hold minimal conversation with her but say fuck it and just get right to business." ​ "She does then we fuck and I finally finish and leave the room. I’m expecting her to already be dressed because I just wanna be left alone after I cum so when I came in I told her I didn’t mean to be rude but I needed to hit the gym ( I didn’t) in a few minutes. She doesn’t say anything and quietly gets off the bed and starts getting dressed. At this point I can tell by her face t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 04:16 PM
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Wtf. No, male orbiters are not common knowledge. Seriously, when is the last time you heard the term "orbiter" used or discussed in real life. I had no idea it was a thing until I came on here. Not to mention the fact that it's hella overused here to the point where pretty much any male friend we're not interested in fucking is an orbiter and we're better off cutting him off than staying friends. That sure as hell is not common practice irl and most people would call a woman insane/heartless for…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 03:37 PM
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No we're assuming the worst of him because of the content in the OP. Did you read it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 03:28 PM
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Okay, this guy is not some teenage boy who's just starting to seriously navigate the SMP. He is 26 years old. You're kidding me if you honestly think he had no idea that the virgin fwb was going to cling to him. That is pretty much common knowledge to anyone who has ever been to high school/college, even the ones who don't do fwb. Many actively avoid fwb with virgins for that very reason and limit them to potential ons. I think he totally knew what he was getting himself into but didn't care/ wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 08:44 AM
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I think what he's trying to get at here is the fact that the definition she gave excludes casual sex/ sex just for its own sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 07:00 PM
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It's how trad/religious women often think (as a point of reference the Catholic church defines sex as procreative and unitive, which pretty much fits what she said word for word.) Carefully note that the similarities between what we think and what those femcel users apparently think ends there. That sub is a hijacked satire group that went off the rails.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 06:57 PM
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I am clearly not Are you though? Keep in mind we're on a sub where "hot guys get away with literally anything and do not have to adhere to basic social norms" is not an uncommon belief. (Source: just about any thread on workplace harassment.) But it seems that that isn't your take. You believe that there are limits on what attractive men can get away with in terms of staring. Men who fall below average in terms of attractiveness aren't generally the ones doing the normie casual checkout thing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 06:25 PM
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Anecdote is anecdotal, but here goes. Recently when we were in the middle of dance practice some dude walked in on accident. Which is whatever, that happens a lot since a ton of groups practice there and newbies get lost sometimes. They usually apologize right away and get out. This motherfucker just literally stands there for a solid three minutes or so watching us like a meat market. We were in the middle of a 7-minute routine and our first performance of the term was about a week away so we d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 05:27 PM
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Then we'll have to agree to disagree. The one girl you're dating could hardly be called a representation of broader trends any more than the college community of 40+ women I'm referring to is. I just find it interesting when some of the dudes around here have to cope with the "I'll be hotter at 40" nonsense and constantly beg for reassurance that 20-year-olds with zero ulterior motives will still want to marry them when they're ready to settle down and stop spinning plates. That doesn't seem to …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 05:03 PM
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Emphasis on "a little." The average girl around my age (20) is not looking to date up any more than 3/possibly 4 years, with a 2 year difference being the sweet spot I've noticed. We do not automatically rule out guys on the basis of their being the same age as us while we do often rule out men who are much older/well past college age. As for dating up, women start to care less about gaps as they age, at which point they're more open to dating older men. This is likely where the higher gaps in y…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 04:32 AM
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>I'm not a Christian but Clearly. Most of us blame today's men for the demise of marriage and traditional values just as much as the women. Plus we don't wantonly call people "delusional and worthless." >Thank God I can at least date younger, more sane women. And we're looking for equally young, sane men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 03:34 AM
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TIL I live in a rural Amish village in bumfuck nowhere
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 03:11 PM
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Read down to my dad example if you haven't yet. We sure as hell wanted to know what he was feeling, including my mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 03:28 AM
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A vulnerable person is open about their feelings. A needy person demands that other people respond to and accommodate those feelings, even at the cost of their own time, energy, patience, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 09:57 PM
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Lol, I'm black tho. My mom probably would have put me out of the house if I started talking like that. I was more like "Yes ma'am."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 05:54 PM
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At least I don't resort to calling people crazy when I can't refute arguments lol. And for the record, the schools I were referring to were high schools, meaning that many of the students are legally adults by the time they graduate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 04:06 AM
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Funny. The teachers I know (men and women alike) who have gone from teaching at all boy to all girl schools and vice versa often said that the boys gave them a far harder time in terms of respecting their authority than the girls did.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 12:40 AM
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I was often told that "I needed to act like a lady." It just so happened that that often entailed learning to respect and behave in ways pleasing to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 12:33 AM
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Yah lol. To be fair it's kind of a mutual distancing? At both of the universities I've been to the older students (so 25+) have tended to focus on studying or work and don't really associate with the younger students. I was hit on by a Master's student once, but it's not really a recurring thing. The concept of people in their late 20's actively wanting to hang out with and date girls who are essentially barely past high school is something I haven't really encountered outside this forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 02:22 AM
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This world where apparently everyone thinks their mommy was an angel is baffling to me. Ours was completely open with us about her history, once we were old enough to understand. She wasn't encouraging us to live the same way or anything. 2/3 of her kids (including me) are actively waiting until marriage. She mainly told us in the context of not wanting us to feel ashamed to come forward and ask if we changed our minds and wanted contraception, testing, or birth control. On top of that she was c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 11:52 AM
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>Do you think late 20s people still have that "youthful" vibe that early 20s people do As a 20-year-old I'm going to have to say it's a no from me dawg. 28-year-olds are old as fuck to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 04:32 AM
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That's...great? Doesn't change the fact that support for or against the movement is largely shaking out along partisan lines. If there was a significant shift regardless of political affiliation I would consider that a highly suggestive finding. This is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 10:00 PM
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I always find it amusing when people start lecturing the public defender on what the law is. Can't put my finger on why.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 08:00 PM
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Rather than breaking along gendered lines, the #MeToo divide increasingly appears to be a partisan one. On each of these three questions, the gap between Trump and Clinton voters is at least six times greater than the one between genders. So in other words conservatives are making up a big chunk of the shift against victims. No surprise there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 07:58 PM
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Hahaha that would be great. I think Zumba has done a pretty good job of tapping into that concept. I always recommend it for people who are just starting out with the weight loss. I feel like concentrating on the rhythm and movements helps to distract from the intensity of the cardio. Like for me once I launch into a routine I'm so focused on getting everything perfect I don't notice the exhaustion until after I'm done. Plus in the case of the group I joined the costumes/uniforms tended to be ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:07 AM
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Like guy being an asshole and people say he's "compensating for something"-type shaming or actually sleeping with a guy then talking about his size behind his back-type shaming? Idk about the latter since I'm not into premarital sex and prefer not to discuss it with people irl, so I'm curious if that's a common thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 11:57 PM
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Thanks lol. I mainly got into it after I started dancing. It increased my stamina a ton and gradually made other aerobics more tolerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 11:45 PM
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Both my brother and I were pretty chubby growing up. We slimmed down over time as we grew/learned the joys of working out. The kid had zero trouble finding clothes that fit (boy's "husky" sizes were always readily stocked it seemed) at the major stores while I certainly did and had to go up to women's sizes (mainly for jeans since my ass was huge and still kinda is relatively speaking even after I've hit a healthy weight/body fat percentage). So I definitely feel like stores may have been discri…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 11:30 PM
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I already have Lol where? It would take some hella circular logic to find an explanation in anything you've said in this thread. Annd way to derail with the traditional "scoff, typical woman" disclaimer. Just admit you're talking based on your feels, dude. I don't judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 11:57 AM
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I believe that all people are "solipsists" to some degree based on the Pill definition. Can you present arguments as to why you believe that women are uniquely solipsistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 11:40 AM
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Empathy is thus absolutely irreconcilable with solipsism and I would even go so far to say that women aren't capable of empathy whatsoever I think that this in and of itself could be a form of meta-solipsism lol. You're a dude. Of course women are going to seem less empathetic relative to men. Just as women are likely to consider each other more empathetic compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 10:35 AM
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Nah, solipsism is the exact opposite of empathy. Solipsism (by the pill definition anyway) more or less refers to an inability to empathize due to not being able to see past your own experience/desires. It is not simply the act of using your personal experience to make inferences about the experiences of other people, as the post implies. For example, men often have trouble seeing why women complain about uncomfortable advances from men when similar advances from women would not phase them. As i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 10:17 AM
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Outgoing, bubbly, likes to have a good time, doesn't challenge him too much intellectually, above average with makeup, average without it, slim, laughs at his stupid jokes. It's interesting though. Ime not all women who date are like this but all the women who are like this are dating. Also note that I'm on the younger side so that might be affecting my perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 03:15 AM
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