saltyladytron Archive

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4	"My Body My Choice" Pretty sure it was a dude who made it mainstream in America, too.. (from a religious thing, to a medical/cultural practice.) edit: Yup. John Harvey Kellogg. So..	/r/MensRights	12/03/17 04:55 AM
1	TIL The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships in twice that of gay and straight relationships Hey, thanks. I'm only able to because this forum is open to it, and there is already healthy debate within itself. You all mostly believe in evidence based discussion, and the heart of this place is good. Everyone wants justice and succor and our suffering acknowledge. We are more alike than different. :)	/r/MensRights	08/01/17 08:04 PM
2	TIL The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships in twice that of gay and straight relationships Thank you for your kindness, and for taking the time to give such a thorough reply. I understand this is a subject that invokes a lot of passion & outrage - rightfully so. And, I also appreciate you recognizing that I truly am trying to broaden my understanding of violence. Feminists have argued against everything from funding for male DV victims support to acknowledgement that the problem is as significant as it is with everything in between from changing the law to make female on male violence…	/r/MensRights	08/01/17 02:20 PM
2	TIL The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships in twice that of gay and straight relationships The study mentioned in the picture is from 2001, you provided one from 2010. I honestly didn't catch that. My mistake. I will try and find the 2001 one. Not saying the CDC is a bad source. My point is that most of the studies I've read - even the ones just referenced in this thread - state that 1. there needs to be more study, and that 2. violence rates are similar between the genders. The differences between genders may be rates of injury, memories of incidence in the self reporting process, et…	/r/MensRights	08/01/17 02:05 PM
1	TIL The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships in twice that of gay and straight relationships Thank you. This study is definitely noteworthy & more research should be done. However, I think it is a bit misleading to assert the aggregated rate without the 'disclaimers'. However, conclusions based on findings of our review should be qualified by limitations of our approach. First, we used an inclusive selection strategy and did not conduct a systematic assessment of study quality. Second, because of the range in study quality, we chose to present descriptive but not inferential statistics.…	/r/MensRights	08/01/17 01:54 PM
1	TIL The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships in twice that of gay and straight relationships No, I guess that would make more sense. Do you know which relevant section or study the "Rates of female-perpetrated violence higher than male-perpetrated (28.3% vs. 21.6%)" statistic comes from? I can't find it so far.	/r/MensRights	08/01/17 06:01 AM
0	TIL The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships in twice that of gay and straight relationships I'm skimming these and I'm not sure I understand your point. Which 'feminists' are saying women don't perpetrate violence? My understanding is that, it's that the severity, & types of violence & the legality of the violence perpetrated that makes it a gendered issue. The exception to gender symmetry is that the adverse effects of being a victim of PV are much greater for women than for men (Strauss) Please don't read as me saying it is only a gendered issue. I can't for the life of me find the p…	/r/MensRights	08/01/17 12:01 AM
1	TIL The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships in twice that of gay and straight relationships The first link you posted is directly contradicted by the actual study you link in the second.. (pdf warning) http://lghttp.48653.nexcesscdn.net/80223CF/springer-static/media/springer-journals/samples/19466560.pdf Male perpetration of IPV against women is well-documented; women are more likely to be the victims of IPV and to suffer more frequent victimizations (Garcia-Moreno, Jansen, Ellsberg, Heise, & Watts, 2006; Kimmel, 2002; Krug, Dahlberg, Mercy, Zwi, & Lozano, 2002; Loseke & Kurz, 2005; Sc…	/r/MensRights	07/01/17 11:46 PM
1	TIL The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships in twice that of gay and straight relationships How is that even possible. It's not. It's inconclusive. I'd read the article & some of the referenced sources. The assertion is incredibly misleading.	/r/MensRights	07/01/17 11:33 PM
2	TIL The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships in twice that of gay and straight relationships the Duluth Model, which assumes a male perp has to be rethought. I don't understand this subs fixation on the Duluth model. It is not a treatment program, it is not a victim support model - it is a blunt tool used as an alternative to punitive justice. It's sole aim is to reduce recidivism. It's author Pence is the first to admit its shortcomings. Pointing out it's cultural, social, and sexual orientation specific shortcomings is one thing. Trying to turn it on its head and purport that women ar…	/r/MensRights	07/01/17 11:32 PM
3	TIL The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships in twice that of gay and straight relationships Those are terrible, biased, misleading [use] sources. The study they cite doesn't support their assertions at all. Nowhere in the CDC study does it state that men are more likely to be victims or that women instigate violence. (PDF warning) https://www.cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/pdf/NISVS_Report2010-a.pdf Always, always check the primary/secondary source! edit: correct my assumptions	/r/MensRights	07/01/17 11:17 PM
8	TIL The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships in twice that of gay and straight relationships It's interesting he posts 'sources' that use CDC & NIH studies, but he doesn't post the actual studies themselves. None of those studies referenced indicate that men are more likely to be partners of intimate violence, nor that women are more likely to instigate violence. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3058822/ (PDF warning) https://www.cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/pdf/NISVS_Report2010-a.pdf edit: still not sure about the NIH/CDC studies. But this is the study with the higher rate of…	/r/MensRights	07/01/17 11:14 PM
4	TIL The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships in twice that of gay and straight relationships Unfortunately only 1 source, http://www.saveservices.org/2012/02/cdc-study-more-men-than-women-victims-of-partner-abuse/ (Or https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3058822/ this study), contains legible study. However, this study does support this idea, and I would dare to say that this is enough to assert the instigator bias towards the female partner. Where in the NIH study does it state that more men are victims or that more women initiate violence? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti…	/r/MensRights	07/01/17 11:12 PM
2	Awesome response Are you just guessing or is that the true etymology...	/r/PussyPassDenied	06/01/17 10:41 PM
13	Not this much equal rights! Xpost sister calls herself a feminist. But she's totally fine with using phrases like "man up" or "grow a pair" when I'm uncomfortable with something. Plus, every time responsibility comes to our door, she's more than happy to let me answer because "she's just a girl". That's fucked up :(	/r/PussyPassDenied	19/06/16 07:37 AM