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Allowing yourself to be completely dependent on another person is an incredibly risky proposition. That's what's driving the concern. Best case scenario, a single earner makes enough money for a comfortable life, you get to spend time with your kids, and you retire in comfort. Worst case scenario, your partner divorces you or dies and you're left to provide for a family with scant work experience/education.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:31 AM
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People constantly behave in suboptimal ways. Smoking, drinking, eating too much junk food, not getting enough exercise, not socializing. Unless some external force was implemented, I can't really see it moving the needle too much. Most tradwife content is already pushing the narrative that SAHMs are happier and more fulfilled, and young women as a whole don't appear to be buying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:38 AM
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Carrying a pregnancy inherently puts a person's health at risk; that's not the case with being given a dog pup. Some (most) would argue a person shouldn't be forced by the government to sustain another person at risk to their own health/life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:40 PM
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I had a life threatening issue that resulted in a termination during my first (very much wanted) pregnancy. Fortunately for me, I had three maternal fetal medicine specialists making the recommendation and not a red piller talking out of his ass about something he clearly doesn't understand. If you'd like a list of conditions that may result in a medical recommendation for termination, please let me know. Aggressively misinformed and confident is an unfortunate combination.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:17 PM
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I think more men should openly talk about women expiring/being past their prime after 25 so women know who they should avoid for long term partnership. It's a wonderful filtering mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:37 AM
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Despite the increased financial burdens a woman may put on a man, as you put it, men are still choosing to remarry at three times the rate of women in the event of an untimely death of a partner. That indicates that any potential financial strain is much less of a deterrent to partnership for men than the added domestic strain is for women. If what men brought to marriage was, on average, as life enhancing as what women brought to marriage, women would be seeking it out again after experiencing …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:50 AM
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It's more because domestic labor increases substantially for women when they have husbands. They value the minimal domestic burden that being single brings.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:26 PM
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All of the widows I know remained unmarried, even if their spouses died decades earlier. Most widowers are/were in new relationships within a couple of years. This study is a bit outdated, but: "By 25 months after the spouse's death 61% of men and 19% of women were either remarried or involved in a new romance. Women expressed more negative feelings about forming new romantic relationships." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8807029/ There's a good amount of evidence that suggests women are more c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 07:43 PM
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I said the common recommendation was to teach your child to seek out a mother if they're lost. You called me a sexist despite that being the perspective of a child safety expert. Gavin DeBecker claims a mother is preferred not only for the lower risk of predation but also the increased likelihood of her ensuring the child gets to safety. "GO TO A MOM. Instead of teaching kids to find a police officer, security guard or salesperson if they’re lost and scared, instruct them to find a mom, which ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 07:38 PM
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I think most people would benefit from listening to expertise, particularly when it comes to their child's safety, but you're free to ignore that advice as you'd like.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 05:37 PM
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These stats are just incorrect, at least in the United States. Filicide occurs about 500 times a year and here's what we know about offenders: "Among offenders, while fathers were about equally likely to kill an infant, they were more likely to be the alleged murderer of children older than a year, especially when the children were adults (fathers were the offenders in 78.3 percent of those cases). Overall, fathers were the accused murderer 57.4 percent of the time." So 500× 43.6 murder proprtio…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 05:19 PM
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The military is a great example underscoring OPs point. Women who voluntarily serve in the military experience extraordinary levels of sexual violence from their own countrymen. That doesn't seem very protective to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 04:58 PM
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Take it up with the male security experts giving the same advice then. You want to roll those dice with a stranger, go for it. To add some relevant reading material: "Our study examines the prior offending of 750 individuals who are known to be responsible for the abduction of a child under the age of 18 years. The first group comprised of 311 offenders (42%) who had abducted a child that was later located alive (found alive, referred to as FA). The second group was comprised of 439 offenders (5…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 04:51 PM
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What is your definition of protector? A group of people security experts tell children to look for to keep them safe seems to meet the definition to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 04:36 PM
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Gavin DeBecker is an American security specialist (and author of The Gift of Fear) and directly gives that advice: https://time.com/archive/6666916/the-new-safety-rules-for-kids/ "GO TO A MOM. Instead of teaching kids to find a police officer, security guard or salesperson if they’re lost and scared, instruct them to find a mom, which generally means someone with a stroller or a child in tow. Police officers and clerks are scarce when you need them, and De Becker says women are more likely than …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 03:40 PM
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Kds are taught to find the nearest woman for help when they're lost, not the nearest man. Why do you think that is? Would you teach your child to seek out a man for assistance?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 02:14 PM
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Every developed country besides the United States has some form of universal healthcare, and the United States has horrible health metrics compared to a lot of those other developed nations. Why settle for such an expensive and mediocre option? Seems illogical not to try to do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:29 AM
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Working nets you an income which provides you food, shelter, and hopefully opportunities for recreation and preparation for retirement. Your job is easy and still provides you those things. People having children provides a benefit to society, but in the United States there are almost no individual incentives to continue to do so for women. It is a culture hostile to mothers and to children-hyperindividualistic and aggressively negative about children existing in public places with a weak social…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:53 AM
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What? A minority of women (45%) and a majority of men (55%) voted for Trump. It is true that most white women voted for Trump, though (53% I believe). https://cawp.rutgers.edu/blog/gender-differences-2024-presidential-vote
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:56 PM
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The most progressive man I know played professional baseball. Another liberal friend is a Navy SEAL. Another lives in a rural area working a blue collar field and works out daily. Conservatives acting like they have a monopoly on masculinity after voting for an obese spray tanned con artist is truly bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 01:18 AM
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Agreed-that is great advice
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 02:28 AM
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Very fair point
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 02:27 AM
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Men produce more collagen, which will help with wrinkles for a time, but excessive exposure to UV rays is going to take its toll in terms of both aging and skin cancer. Men are considerably more likely to develop and die from skin cancer than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 07:58 PM
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I fully disagree. Both of my parents worked full time, but my dad went above and beyond to help around the house and care for his kids. I never saw him as less masculine for having done so, and neither did anyone else. I watched the guy I eventually married clean his entire apartment after throwing ragers with his suitemates in college. It has worked out wonderfully. The Millennial men who have reproduced are much more involved in childcare than any generation of men before them. The men who ref…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 01:34 PM
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If you were a woman, do you think you'd have a better time with a man who reads feminist literature (even performatively, as you postulate) or a man who believes all women are children, western women are worthless and obsesses about body counts? Dating is all about optimizing outcomes for yourself. Given the ubiquity of manosphere content and the relatively recent trend of young men failing to form meaningful romantic relationships with women, I'm not going to begrudge "performative" males for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:57 PM
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I don't think anyone would disagree with you that a being a pushover is an unattractive trait, but liking books and music made by women doesn't make you a pushover. A confident man who isn't obsessed with being perceived as masculine enough is incredibly attractive. Look at Cillian Murphy as a celebrity example-he's quiet, he likes to read, he's attended protests for women's rights in Ireland, he's dressed in drag for movies and he's still a celebrity crush for a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:09 AM
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I don't accept the OPs premise that liking things women typically like means you're a pushover who is going to end up in a bad relationship. A lot of men genuinely enjoy reading/listening to music made by female artists/drinking matcha (and a lot of those men have traditionally male interests, too). I'm a Millennial who was friends with a lot of the skinny jeans/nail polish-wearing men mentioned as the previous version of the "performative male." Most of them were musicians, none of them ever la…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:46 AM
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Crime is much lower now than it was when women were awarded the right to vote. What a bizarre argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 12:02 AM
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Estimates suggest one third to one half of women experience sexual assault at the hands of men. Should we write all of you off as bad actors? I'd argue it's good practice to, at a minimum, avoid men who post misogynistic content online. You can do the same with people who used the Tea app, if that suits you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 12:48 PM
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Men on this subreddit seem uniquely allergic to accountability. A woman's leading risk of death during pregnancy in the United States is homicide at the hands of their intimate partner. Every woman you know has been sexually harassed, and I'd wager a bet most have been sexual assaulted. "Not all men"TM but enough that a woman should be extremely selective in who she dates, and men who openly espouse misogyny should be disqualified outright.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 12:37 PM
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Calling out shitty behavior isn't starting a hate group. Men en masse are online calling women mid, ran through, 304s, expired, and then they're crying that women don't want to be with them. A woman's highest risk of violence comes from her partner- it's wise to avoid misogynists to minimize that risk. Women aren't killing men when they get angry. The big threat to men was "divorce rape," but now women don't want to marry most men anyway, so problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:29 AM
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Ugly men absolutely get laid. They can and do compensate for their looks in charm, power, money, talent, humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 12:44 PM
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More women than men are graduating from both med school and from law school. But don't let facts get in the way of your sexist nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:00 PM
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A man who votes for universal healthcare, strengthening of global alliances, and supporting environmental conservation does not equate to a "man who wears dresses." Trump supporters voted for a draft dodger who was held liable for sexual assault, bankrupted multiple casinos, defrauded his charity, and rambles on TruthSocial like a doddering old man. He also cheated on all of his wives. His second-hand man uses his immense wealth to advocate against programs keeping seniors out of poverty. Why co…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 10:23 PM
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I had a wanted pregnancy go south, rendering the fetus non-viable and putting my health at risk. Three different doctors at the Catholic-affiliated hospital where I was receiving care said termination was the only reasonable option in my situation, but they themselves could not perform the procedure because of the Catholic affiliation. My (liberal) husband's only question was how quickly they could transfer my care to a secular hospital to get the procedure done because he was worried about my h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 09:29 PM
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So what constitutes a HVM to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 05:41 PM
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Same. Everyone I've dated (including the man I married) has had female friends. My dad had a close female friend for decades until she died of breast cancer, and my mom never had any kind of problem with it. I find so many of the takes on this subreddit reductive and sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 04:55 PM
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The men who make up the Forbes 400 are outliers, and even then, you aren't seeing the age gaps espoused by RP men here. My social circle is full of doctors, lawyers, 7 they nearly uniformly chose to marry women similar in age, attractiveness, and intellect. Pro athletes (who are certainly outliers) also don't seem to be going after girls much younger than they are-a lot marry their high school or college sweethearts. I just don't see this Red Pill claim play out in the real world. The most attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:45 PM
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Nah, on average, this just isn't the case. Most attractive, intelligent, socially competent men pair off with women close to their own age. The average age gap in marriage is 2 years, and marriages among those close in age are least likely to dissolve. Celebrities like Leonardo DiCaprio are outliers, not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:41 PM
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At least they still have "hit the gym"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:18 PM
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Congrats, you turned a salient point into a pointless gendered attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:02 PM
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Google "treatment of women in the military" and get back to me on why there might be such a profound gender disparity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 02:00 AM
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Yep, and kids are generally told to seek out women if they need help, not men. Also, men here all the time say how they are under no obligation to help women. Duly noted, but don't turn around and try to pretend to be heroes. Some men absolutely are, but none who have that mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:55 AM
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After she was no longer restrained, one mother ran in to get her kids out with no protective gear and no weapons while those cowards stood around with their big boy weapons and let children get gunned down. Fuck, it makes my blood boil every time I think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:54 AM
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The women who are OK with 50/50 are nearly always feminists, and we all know how most men here feel about feminism. Puts them in quite the position lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 06:53 PM
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It is a horrible idea to have a child with a man who won't put a ring on it, I'm sorry, but never ever ever. And she gave the kid his name too ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 01:41 AM
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I wouldn't blend finances in a relationship without marriage. Keep everything separate if there's no legal commitment. In marriage, I'm a big advocate of blending finances, especially if kids are involved. https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2022-42962-001 As it is I am married and had kids. All finances are merged. We discuss financial topics regularly to make sure we're on the same page, and we run purchases by each other. He lets me manage all of our retirement accounts because I like to do it, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:58 PM
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The disparity results from a much larger proportion of young, single women being liberal than young, single men. There is a 50/50 split, but younger single men and older married women are driving that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:19 PM
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I agree with you that there's a threshold where a man is attractive enough that some women will compromise their morals to be with him. However, I'd argue the proportion of men meeting that threshold is vanishingly small. Men on the bubble will absolutely go from possible relationship candidate to ruled out based on a Trump vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:50 PM
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The OP is trying to find a solution to the gender divide that isn't blaming women for not catering to men enough. That's the opposite of most posts here since the election.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:20 AM
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That's fair enough. I've got nothing but positive feelings toward men that chose to vote against Trump, though the opinions of one woman may not mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:19 PM
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On the contrary, liberal men seem to be the only men without enormous victim complexes. Trump won-why are people who voted for him so mad? You got what you wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:42 PM
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The liberal men in my life are as pissed as I am about what just happened. They don't feel responsibility for Roe v Wade being overturned because they aren't responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:13 PM
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Agreed. I also don't get pissed with people blaming white women for Trump's victory despite being one myself. I'm as annoyed as anyone else that my demographic broke for Trump, and I know I'm not personally contributing to that trend, so why would I take it personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:06 PM
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Nor is it about you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:05 PM
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Women are amping up their hostilities because Roe v Wade was overturned. On the interpersonal-relationship level, men have spent decades telling women they lose value as they age, that they hit the Wall, that they better enjoy being a childless cat-lady if they miss their window. There were also ubiquitous "wife bad, wife ball and chain, my life is miserable because of my wife" jokes for the women who did partner up. Instead of dating men with such sentiments, women are electing to remain single…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:59 PM
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He said he's bi
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:53 PM
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A much larger proportion of Millennials voted than did Gen Z, so the 43-47% difference in exit polling among men results in millions more Millennial men who voted Harris than did Gen Z men. I give a lot of credit to the male Gen Z Harris voters. They're just going to be in short supply since women prefer to date men with similar ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:52 PM
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No worries, I've only dated progressive men, and then I married one. He's protected me on an individual level and at a societal level through his votes. Hence the advice to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:50 PM
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Democratic Presidents received a higher proportion of votes from young men when Millennials were coming of age than now, so no, it doesn't mean that at all. I've got no issue with Gen Z men who voted Harris, and I even understand feeling disenchanted with politics and sitting an election out. For the Trump voters, stand on your vote. You severely limited your dating pool considering the political affiliation of the majority of young women, but presumably that was an acceptable outcome. I hope Tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:44 PM
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Millennial men are not becoming as conservative as expected with time; that's my point. I agree it's not helpful from a political perspective to finger point if you're looking to win elections. However, I also believe it's unreasonable to compromise on major fundamental values for the sake of a relationship. Two different entities. Politically, I feel for men who feel left behind and are voting to change the system. Romantically, I'm never sleeping with someone who looked at Trump and saw anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:19 AM
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Gen Z men took a hard turn right comparing last election to this one, whereas Millennials went a bit more conservative but not really. A higher proportion of Millennials voted than Gen Z as well, so the 43% of them represents a lot more men than the 47% of Gen Z men. Obviously there are millions of Gen Z men who didn't vote for Trump, and they'll have a major dating advantage for the foreseeable future.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:30 AM
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I'm not angry at all. I offered it as a solution to women trying to avoid men with attitudes like yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:23 AM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls Only 4% difference comparing Gen Z to Millennial men, but a much greater proportion of Millennials voted than did Gen Z.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:22 AM
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You may, but millions don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:02 AM
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To any Gen Z woman reading this: I fully support age gaps if it means avoiding Gen Z men with attitudes like this. Either vet your man very carefully or come get yourself a Millennial man. They saw 9/11/Iraq/Afghanistan, lived through a recession, and interacted with the opposite sex in person, so even the conservative ones aren't this intrinsically bitter. Leave men like this to worship their daddy Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:47 AM
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But haven't there been a number of games you could argue prioritize DEI while being wildly successful? Spiderman 2, Baldur's Gate 3, God of War? I assume video game companies are driven by market forces-they want to put out a product that appeals to the greatest number of people. If they put out a bad game and redirect course when it gets trashed by ratings, that's completely reasonable. For movies, I think there have been more inventive, creative movies released in recent years than I've seen i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:51 PM
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Gay men have a lot of issues in the dating world, but getting casual sex isn't one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:41 PM
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No, it's not the same men. Men who think "DEI hires" are the reason they aren't succeeding when billionaires are literally siphoning up all the excess wealth as fast they can manage are too dumb to be reasoned with. It's a billionaire-funded talking point to keep the working class at each other's throats. I have a lot of compassion for men who feel frustrated they aren't reaching the life milestones their parents and grandparents. I agree a lot of messaging geared toward men boils down to "Your …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:22 PM
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If it's men complaining about DEI, I honestly couldn't care less about pulling those votes. If it's speaking to younger men who feel they don't have a future to look forward to, I think there would be merit in engaging with that audience directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:29 PM
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Yep, my husband begrudgingly voted for Kamala, but he is pretty left-wing, so most of his votes on the Presidential level have been begrudging. He enthusiastically voted for Bernie Sanders. Harris lost because millions of people stayed home, not because Trump suddenly became more popular. The path forward for Democrats is to either genuinely appeal to the working class or to run a charismatic man (Obama, Clinton) on neoliberal policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:22 PM
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Honestly, never. I've seen a lot of beautiful men but I just admire and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 02:07 PM
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Same lol. They have fun when they're young then settle down with families in their 30s. Men are free to avoid whoever they like, but it's sour grapes to pretend that these women all have miserable, unfulfilling lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:45 PM
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Unfortunately, I am much more boring than that. I just like easy-going people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:42 PM
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Disagreeing with someone's opinion doesn't mean I'm offended by it, and generally speaking, I don't think people who are easily offended are hanging around a controversial debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:42 PM
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My idea of fun is climbing mountains and going to shows. Just nice to see someone who doesn't take everything so seriously here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:55 AM
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At least there are some fun people on this subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 02:12 AM
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I appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 09:24 PM
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I'd hazard a guess that generalizing all American women as having "bitch attitudes" isn't doing you any favors. I promise you no American woman is insisting you date them. There are plenty of men who like American women well enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:46 PM
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I'm sorry about your dad. I think the answer to your question is that men tend not to build robust social support networks while women tend to seek those out. Loneliness is a killer. The men who break that mold do fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:44 PM
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Women have always worked; now they're just getting paid for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:36 PM
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So we should ignore a campaign started in the past week but give credence to one that occurred in Great Britain over 100 years ago? Y'all are so desperate to play the victim. There hasn't been a draft in the US in over 50 years and women are dying from inadequate medical care thanks to theocratic laws right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:32 PM
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Because they refuse to acknowledge that doctors should be consulted in matters concerning women's health, not theocratic lawmakers. I had one of those abortion for health of the mother edge cases. My membranes ruptured at 14 weeks, rendering the pregnancy non-viable (fetal lung development would be inadequate in the absence of amniotic fluid that early on in pregnancy). Membrane rupture is also infection risk without delivery occurring closely afterwards. At the Catholic hospital where I was rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:28 PM
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Most men just voted for the administration that made those women dying possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:17 PM
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I have empathy for the people struggling economically who voted for change because they hoped change would be better. I have no empathy for men who voted Trump because women didn't listen to them enough. But they got what they wished for. Just don't say we didn't warn you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:22 AM
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Not really, I voted for the administration that led the US to one of the best post-COVID economic recoveries in the world. If you value punishing women more than economic growth, that's fine be me, but at least take some accountability. We'll see what Democrat is elected in 2028 to clean things up again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:03 AM
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At least the comments were on point
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:49 PM
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Yep, the ones issuing threats of violence to their daughters' dates aren't liberal men, so it appears conservative men acknowledge men can be dangerous. They just seem frustrated that women are saying the same thing. The point of man v. bear wasn't that all men are bad. Obviously seeing a neutral to helpful man is much better than encountering a bear in the woods. But we have no way to tell who is going to hurt us, and I'd wager a guess that most conservative AND liberal fathers would tell any d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:45 PM
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Enjoy yet another Republican-led recession because women were mean to you or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:30 PM
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You support an exception for rape, so you obviously aren't so firm in the conviction that abortion is taking a life. If you were, it would be objectionable no matter how the conception occurred. At least be ideologically consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:20 PM
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A majority of white women. Most women voted for Harris.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:01 PM
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Seriously. All these posts about 4B recently give the impression that men are seriously pressed. Conversely, you don't see women whining that there are men who want to go their own way. You do you, boo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:54 PM
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Isn't AWALT one of the central tenets of TRP? Generalizations are made about women constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:41 PM
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My ideology is different than yours because I think aborting a fetus in utero prior to consciousness is less objectionable than what happened to say, Gabriel Fernandez. Children growing up unloved, unwanted and neglected with minimal prenatal care will result in increased child abuse and serious societal harms when those children become adults. Many of the current abortion laws do not heave exceptions for rape. It is also extremely difficult to prove rape without a video of the event happening, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:09 PM
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Neither do women who are raped. And if you invented a friend into your house and then they started taking a sledgehammer to the walls, would you ask them to leave or just sit there and hope they wouldn't destroy the whole thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:50 PM
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Don't sleep with Trump voters is the more effective strategy. Date the Millennial/Gen Z men who didn't vote for a sexual predator. Since there's a fairly large gulf in the political leanings of young single women and young single men, this would have an impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:59 AM
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I agree with you. I think inflation/cost of living issues hit everyone hard, people looked at who was in office, and voted to change things. I disagree that Trump will help, but I get that perspective well enough. I think if Democrats quit courting Wall Street there's a chance to earn some of those votes back. I'm more referring to the spite votes or the ones openly celebration restriction on women's rights. Hopefully a fringe minority, but I don't see ever branching the divide there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:25 AM
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That's fair enough. I appreciate the insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:09 AM
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I just took a look, and I'll absolutely concede that that's a misstep in messaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:17 PM
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Black men absolutely shouldn't be getting roped in with everyone else as they broke stronger for Harris than any other male demographic. I think the finger pointing at minorities is gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:14 PM
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Young women already had standards, hence why Trump-supporting young men had to hide their political views to have a chance on dating apps. With the behavior of a certain subset of his supporters following the election, women will only get more selective. The women who broke for Trump are old and already married. I'm fully in support of young women remaining as selective as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:09 PM
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There have been multiple posts here since the election made by men blaming women for not catering to men's issues enough as the reason Trump won. What I don't understand is why Trump supporters are such sore winners. Shouldn't you be happy? You got the guy you wanted. Why do you care that progressives don't like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:54 PM
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That's insightful. I appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:23 AM
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I agree with you. I'm asking what he says that appeals to men? I keep hearing he speaks to men's issues, but what is he saying that does that because I haven't heard it, and I can admit I'm coming at things from a biased perspective. I'm not asking this in bad faith- I'm genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:22 AM
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You're kind of proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:15 AM
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I agree with your main point. Biden promised to be a transitional president, and by opting to run for a second term, we lost the chance to vet and select the best candidate for the job. It's very frustrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:13 AM
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I don't disagree with you at all. The Democratic Party has lost touch with its roots. If Democrats want to win, they need to connect with and work for the working class. Republicans do a great job at this, though I'd argue most of their proposed policies are unhelpful to anyone but the most wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:05 AM
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We aren't attacking men. I love a lot of men. I'm fully of the belief that men and women working cooperatively results in the best living conditions for everyone. I care about men's mental health and the unbalanced suicide rate, I care about veterans suffering when they come home, I care that a lot of working class men men are struggling to get food on the table after an unbalanced COVID recovery period. As far as I can tell, proposed Republican policy will do nothing to improve any of those thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 05:58 AM
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I agree with you completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 05:49 AM
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I'm not blaming anyone who voted Harris in this election. It's unhelpful. I see different think pieces blaming all sorts of demographics, and none of them will do anything but sow division. I'm very grateful to the men who supported Harris. I'm also fully on board with trying to connect with people who voted for Trump on the economy or people who didn't vote at all. I oppose women wasting their time trying to appeal to the hearts and minds of men who have been laughing or gloating about women be…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 05:44 AM
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No, I was asking for clarification. Trump won't enhance the lives of men unless they already happen to be extremely rich, so the logic of men voting for him because he speaks to men's issues doesn't connect for me. What issues? The economy will be worse, access to mental health care will not be prioritized as "pick your self up by your bootstraps" is the party's ethos. What do you like about what he is saying? What will he do for men beyond lip service that doesn't amount to anything tangible?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 05:33 AM
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Agreed. You need to give people something to fight for, not focus your messaging on how the opponent is terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:00 AM
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Exactly this. People are being hit hard by inflation. If people voted for Trump because they truly thought he would improve the economy, I don't hold any disdain for them at all. I thoroughly disagree with them, but I don't hold it against them as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:59 AM
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Please explain to me how the Harris campaign actively shit on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:58 AM
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I mean, doesn't this align with what TRP wants? I see at least a post a week in here with men defending age gaps. And honestly, if I were a liberal gen Z woman, I'd be targeting Millennial men too, especially after this election.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:16 PM
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A lot of the 4B commentary is overly dramatic content created for Tiktok, but the fact remains that Gen Z men are having less sex than any recent generation. A majority of Gen Z men are single. Birth rates are cratering. This election won't help things. A small minority of women having sex with a single man doesn't disprove general trends. Feel free to save and get back to me in four years if Gen Z men have managed to turn things around for themselves, but the hateful rhetoric I'm seeing everywh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:18 PM
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Conservative frat bros are fucking conservative sorority girls. There's a mismatch in the proportion of college-educated men and college-educated women supporting Harris, and women are rejecting men they otherwise might have considered over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 03:47 AM
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I'm a liberal woman and I agree with you. Liberal women don't want anything to do with conservative men-who cares? Presumably conservative men wouldn't want women with liberal values anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:51 AM
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You said "remember when you said the same thing when Roe v Wade was overturned" and I'm saying young women are already rejecting young men, and this will make it worse
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:13 AM
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That's what they said about Roe v Wade prior to 2016
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:12 AM
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Gen Z is having less sex than any generation before them at the same age.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:59 AM
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There are plenty of hot, college-educated liberal men. See "education by gender" in the below exit polls-it was nearly a 50/50 split for white college-educated men. There's no point in settling, especially now. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:36 AM
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NBC just released pretty comprehensive exit polls. White women voting for Trump was driven by non-college educated, 45-64 year old married ladies. Single women, college-educated women, young white women all broke for Harris. So the young men looking for like-minded partners will likely continue to be disappointed. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:34 AM
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No, I wouldn't fuck with conservatives before, and I won't now. They've been gloating about all the Trump-supporting women all over this subreddit, so it should be happily ever after for them. Assortative mating and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:41 PM
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Then stick with conservative women. Most of the hemming and hawing from men on this subreddit is about liberal women. Just ignore them and stop trying to sleep with them. I will say: Don't expect conservative women to give one fuck about male loneliness.. If you're not a strong provider, they won't want you either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:58 PM
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Billionaires look out for themselves. Enjoy the recession.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:43 PM
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I agree with your take. Dem messaging was vague at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:03 PM
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I've seen the opposite IRL. My mom's friend was a single mom and she married a tall surgeon at 39. They're still together decades later. If you're attractive enough, the sky's the limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:02 PM
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Gen Z is having less sex than any other living generation before them did at the same point. This will not help things, but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:47 PM
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They think the difference in values won't impact them directly, until it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:42 PM
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Men say they don't like high maintenance girls or girls who wear make up all the time, but women have eyes and can see who gets the most attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:09 PM
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The way you hold women accountable for playing hard to get is by not playing their game.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:53 PM
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No. I'm shocked they even got to sex after the interview portion of the date, but if a man leaves me hanging in that respect, there would be no second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:58 PM
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I'll respond to your two examples at least: Don't waste your time on women who play hard to get. You'll likely drive more of her interest by not following her around and doing your own thing than by playing her games. Life isn't "The Notebook." As a rule (and maybe people will disagree with this), don't send sexual texts before the first sexual encounter. Once you have hooked up, then it'll likely be better received.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:47 AM
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Good question
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 01:15 PM
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it usually means the workload reduces when he moves out. Two adults should make for a lighter load, especially when you're in the trenches of early parenthood. If it makes for a heavier one, you've got a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:26 PM
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IRB just means Institutional Review Board. Major institutions have them to make sure research is ethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:46 PM
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It's bizarre you'd talk about him as an LVM when he's literally just a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:33 PM
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Do you think the men in those countries would be on board with this plan?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:39 PM
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Elections post Dobbs have broken for Democrats well beyond what's expected based on polling and conventional trends. Abortion is an albatross for Republicans, and I expect it will continue to be this November.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:05 AM
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Ok, then my apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:45 PM
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Are you really trying to pretend men don't use pretty women as accessories to make them look better? Good grief.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:29 PM
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Many men absolutely have the capacity to cheat; average men just lack the opportunity. Beyonce, Elizabeth Hurley, Shakira, Natalie Portman, Sienna Miller have all been cheated on. Literally some of the most beautiful women on the planet and it wasn't enough to keep their men faithful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:22 PM
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Because beauty is fleeting. Why commit to a man at all if that's what he values above all else?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:55 PM
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We're just going off of what men here tell us, which is: Education doesn't matter, our careers don't matter, our hobbies are useless and boring, women are valued for being attractive and submissive. That's not love at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:48 PM
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Men absolutely care if a woman is taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:33 PM
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You can't say men judge more on acquired characteristics and then just exclude youth. Youth is arguably the most prized characteristic in women, and it is something you have until you don't, through no control of your own. Additionally, men have a number of paths to initially attracting a partner-charisma, looks, money, status, sense of humor. Women have one, and it's appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 12:35 PM
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I'm sorry to hear about what happened to you and your sister. Your point about remarriage is a great one. The risk of child abuse skyrockets when a non-related adult is in the home. Single parents should be vetting potential partners more aggressively than any other group.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:56 PM
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Why should anyone lower their standards? If you're picking a potential life partner, you should maintain very high standards. Many women will happily remain single rather than enter a relationship with man they aren't attracted to, and that's for the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:40 PM
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Why should anyone lower their standards? If you're picking a potential life partner, you should maintain very high standards. Women aren't obligated to date men. Many women will happily remain single rather than enter a relationship with man they aren't attracted to, and that's for the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:29 PM
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Why should anyone lower their standards? If you're picking a potential life partner, you should maintain very high standards. Women aren't obligated to date men. Many women will happily remain single rather than enter a relationship with man they aren't attracted to, and that's for the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:29 PM
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Because you aren't presenting cogent points to debate..
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 10:08 PM
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I think you are holding yourself back from potential happiness by reveling in anger and hyperbole.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 08:06 PM
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I don't think that's abusive at all. I think people object to dating a known partier then asking her to stop. Kind of like Jonah Hill asking his surfer girlfriend to stop posting pictures of herself in bathing suits when that's her entire brand.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 08:00 PM
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I'd contend that if that's important to him, he'd live a happier life if he found a woman with similar views on pornography.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 07:57 PM
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That could be the case, certainly
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 04:42 PM
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What is your definition of a sociopath? A disregard for the rights and feelings of others? Women weren't even allowed to vote until the 20th century, and marital rape was legal through the 1990s (and still is in many parts of the world). Conservative men are now doing everything in their power to strip rights back from women and encourage a return to traditionalism. Men are angry that women aren't choosing not to pair up with angry misogynists instead of leaving women alone. You tell me which se…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 02:44 PM
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Attractive women have more intelligent partners regardless of their own intelligence, but that effect is even more pronounced among intelligent women. And we evidently do need a study, since men here are claiming "women aren't good at measuring the intelligence of men."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 02:35 PM
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Of course; many women have no issue with porn. I'm only referring to those that do, and arguing that it's not controlling/a violation of bodily autonomy to refuse to date a man who consumes pornography.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 02:30 PM
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Comments like these really underscore how little men think of women. Research suggests the opposite-attractive women select for intelligence while attractive men do not. "Specifically, we predicted that more physically attractive women would have more intelligent husbands, but that a man’s physical attractiveness would not predict his wife’s intelligence. The results of correlation and regression analyses were consistent with these predictions, although the effect sizes were small. Additionally,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:14 PM
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We're not controlling it. We're just not going to date you if you use porn for sexual gratification. People are allowed to set whatever boundaries they want. I'm not violating your rights by not dating you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:07 PM
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I'm an atheist who thinks porn is a net negative for society. Men here decry hedonism, but what is pornography use aside from empty sexual gratification by way of an industry known for abuse and exploitation?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 12:24 PM
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I married a guy I met when we were both 19 and in college. I promise you I wasn't after him for his "bounty." My mom earned more than my dad for most of their working lives and they're still happily married 40 years later. He is one of the smartest and hardest-working people I know. It must be sad to go through life with such a cynical viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 12:43 AM
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I'll be sure to add "hardworking and intelligent" to the list of traits that are unacceptable for women to prioritize, according to the men of PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 09:28 PM
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Intelligence and work ethic
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 04:46 PM
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Not at all. Switching jobs is much easier than getting out of a marriage when you're dependent on another person for your survival. If traditional marriage was as wonderful as it was claimed to be, women wouldn't have collectively rejected it outright.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 10:38 AM
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Yep. Compare the numbers on the Y axis in Figures 2 and 3. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db464.htm Middle-aged men are just killing themselves. In an ideal world, they would be seeking help instead of checking out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 07:55 PM
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Agree with this take. A bunch of angry young men with nothing to lose usually ends badly for everyone. The solution to this problem is the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:19 PM
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If college was not valuable, you wouldn't see every single politician, regardless of their affiliation, sending their kids. Republicans may lament the evils of higher ed, but they all attended, and they're all sending their kids as well. Watch what they do, not what they say. Trades can pay well, but many will break your body well before retirement age. My dad was a landscaper until he was 40, and fortunately he was able to shift into a government job once his back got too bad to deal with physi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:59 PM
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MGTOW was a subreddit of posts almost exclusively about women. They did not, in fact, go their own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:40 AM
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"AWALT" is an underpinning of RP philosophy. So is the concept of "The Wall." Aren't we on a subreddit dedicated to discussing the merits of said ideas? Men in the manospgere seem very comfortable generalizing and dehumanizing women yet seem to get very upset at the same being done to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:07 PM
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Then why do we keep hearing about the male loneliness epidemic? They're not choosing to remain single.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:05 PM
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Women don't talk that way, so you'd just have to worry about weird guys making comments like that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:40 PM
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You're acting like a large contingent of men aren't spending their free time on the internet calling women "expired," "past their prime," saying they've "hit the walli" if they're past the age of 25/30. The internet has provided insight into how men talk about women like nothing else before, and the number of women choosing to remain single is higher than ever before. It's not coincidental.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:38 PM
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You're preaching to the choir here
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 04:16 PM
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If you have safety without attraction, you have a friendship. If you have passion without safety, you have a FWB/situationship. It seems only TRP espouses the belief that men are black and white dichotomous beings, sorted forever into an alpha or beta designation. Life is more complicated than that, and most men have a combination of traits. Would a man want to marry a woman that he felt no passion for, or a woman who was so unstable she'd take off or cheat on him? No, and it's not unreasonable …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:47 PM
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I'd contend you need both for a successful, long-lasting relationship, and that those traits aren't mutually exclusive. I wouldn't date someone who didn't make me feel safe, but I also wouldn't date someone I wasn't viscerally attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:13 PM
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Speaking for the US here, but transferrable skills, GI Bill, VA loans, general honor/respect from the population at large (excepting Vietnam vets in the 60s/early 70s), housing allowances while serving, pension after retiring, military/veteran discounts.. If you can avoid getting PTSD, it's a pretty good gig
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 01:58 PM
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I'm not a fan of sex work in general. It's akin to joining the military at 18 in that you can be traumatized for the rest of your life because of the decisions you made at a tender age. Unlike the military, there are virtually no benefits to doing sex work aside from money, and only a small minority make enough money to set themselves up afterward. Other than that, you're almost certainly tanking your mental health and possibly your physical health, rendering yourself undateable to a sizeable ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:29 PM
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I don't like turning people down, but I'm not going to begrudge a guy for shooting his shot if he's nice about it. The ones who start hurling invectives when you say "Thanks, but I'm not interested" sour the prospect of being approached a bit, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:23 PM
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Absolutely. Hiking is a great hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:55 AM
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To even try something new requires a level of confidence in oneself. It'd be easy to talk yourself out of literally anything with that mindset-I shouldn't try that hobby because I won't be good at it. I shouldn't go to that party because everyone will hate me. I shouldn't try for that job because they'd never want me. You don't know any of that until you try. I will say-If you keep trying the same things and failing, you should try altering your strategy before trying again, if it's something th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:51 PM
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77% of American men are overweight or obese (see reference below). Stimulating hobby would be something that results in betterment of body, mind or spirit. https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:44 PM
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I think my interpretation of that phrase and yours are a bit different. I'm not saying that a person shouldn't do what they can to set themselves up for success. For your first bike trip, you presumably trained, mapped out your route, planned for emergency situations, and you still felt mentally like you might not make it. But you did it anyway. You could have just taken the easy path and skipped the trip, but you didn't. That's what I mean by fake it until you make it. Prepare for success the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:18 PM
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My point was that throwing in the towel because you haven't had success previously isn't a great strategy. I fully believe a lot of great things don't come easily, and I don't believe there's any benefit at all to counting yourself out. If you don't feel confident yet, pretend that you are until you truly feel that way. What's the harm in that? I also agree with you that obesity is not going to be solved by "powering through." On an individual level, that may work for some people, but if it were…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:12 PM
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What does your social life look like? Do any of your hobbies involve interacting with women? Do you volunteer at all? The short, romantically successful men I know have all met partners in person (usually through friend groups) rather than online. That said, I fully concede that being below average in height/looks put you at a disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 02:12 PM
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It sounds reductive, but fake it til you make it. I fully acknowledge I didn't have the romantic struggles an introverted man would have, but I do work in a difficult profession where I had a heavy dose of impostor syndrome starting out, despite a PhD and positive comments about my work. I feigned confidence until I had enough experience to have it naturally. The alternative would have been switching to a less demanding field where I didn't need to struggle to succeed. For men struggling romanti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:57 PM
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Confidence is generally attractive to women. A lot of morally bankrupt people are unfortunately confident and charismatic. A woman will also be attracted to a confident, charismatic man who is morally good. To your last point, yes, you should focus on improving yourself for your own sake. If you want to improve your success with women, put yourself in situations where you have to talk to a lot of people to improve your confidence and charisma, and go to the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:47 PM
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Buddy, I'm not the one trying to control what other people do in public. Does your wife know you make these weird comments about modesty on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:31 PM
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Men are filming young girls for their own sexual gratification in that woman's example. In your example, women filming themselves happen to catch men gawking at them, again, for their for sexual gratification. This isn't a reverse of your situation at all. It's men not being able to mind their own business and leave women (or girls) alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:00 PM
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Men wear short shorts and no shirt while working out all the time and no one cares. Seems like you're a bit bent out of shape over nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 05:52 PM
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You brought up a nonsense, niche example. I have no patience or tolerance for men who try to comment on what is and isn't appropriate dress. Men frequently take their shirts off to exercise and somehow it's not an issue for women trying to exercise at the same time. If you want to live in a country where women are forced to dress modestly enough for your standards so that men aren't tempted to gawk, you are free to do so. You want us to respect men as leaders and arbiters of what's appropriate w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 05:19 PM
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I disagree with your entire premise. There's very little that I would consider "violating modesty." If you can't handle women in tight work out clothes, stay out of the gym. And off the beach apparently, since I guess bikinis would be too immodest for your sensibilities too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 05:11 PM
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A bunch of men publicly against it are absolutely consuming it. Hypocrisy is a tale as old as time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:42 PM
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It means you include age of the mother as a variable in the model, which controls for its impact on the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:45 PM
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It's very location dependent, but in my example it's a MCOL area where firefighters don't typically crack six figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:36 PM
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There is absolutely a certain type of man who would never be comfortable with his wife/partner earning more than him. Namely, the man who thinks the primary thing he has to offer in a partnership is his ability to provide. That said, I know quite a few couples where the woman earns more than the man. In every case, the man is very confident in himself, and usually works in a high prestige/interesting profession (firefighter, teacher, scientist) even if it's not a high-paying one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:59 AM
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Go get em, tiger.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:44 PM
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Victoria's Secret lost a ton of money because women opted to buy from women-focused brands instead of ones that catered to the male gaze. They then changed their marketing strategy to make more money, which is fundamentally the driver of most behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:50 PM
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That's just propaganda from the right. Only a knucklehead would look at someone like Trump and see a strong, masculine role model. He is relentlessly insecure and petty and wildly out of shape. He's a draft-dodging grifter and young men lap it up. It's sad, honestly. McCain and Romney are both strong men who led the lives conservatives extol, but so are Obama/Walz. The right does not have a monopoly on masculinity; in fact, it's strayed further from traditional masculinity than ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:24 PM
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Agreed. I'd contend that making the gym your entire personality isn't really that appealing to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:36 PM
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I'm a progressive liberal and agree with you fully. It's OK to prioritize to shared values.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:36 PM
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I married a liberal man who makes six figures and likes to exercise. Last Fall, the person giving him his flu shot told him unprompted that he had "zaddy deltoids." Before him I dated a personal trainer who is now a nurse practitioner and spent an hour or two at the gym every day on his own. Also liberal. I'd compromise on physical fitness before political views, but if you go to college, it's not difficult to find men who have both.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:15 PM
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Women and children first only happens when men are forced to do so, like during the sinking of the Titanic. Men are much more likely to survive maritime disasters than women are. https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.1207156109
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:14 AM
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And thanks to the garbage finale, now no one talks about the show at all lol. I agree you with though-the first few seasons were really amazing television.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 12:42 AM
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20% of married couples in the US met at work. So don't do it unless you're reasonably sure he/ she is it for you is the better advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:34 PM
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I have three kids. It's a ton of work, and historically, 99% of that work fell on the shoulders of women. I'll give kudos to Millennial fathers for contributing more effort to parenting than any generation before them, but women will still disproportionately have their careers and health impacted by choosing to become mothers. I developed what seems to be a permanent allergiy to peanuts, and I developed high blood pressure that took over a year to resolve. I also needed to reduce my hours at wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:47 PM
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It's economic liberation
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 03:27 AM
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Except for that whole creating and nurturing life thing, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:24 AM
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Men aren't entitled to women's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 11:38 PM
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No, because men benefit from a functioning society too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 11:36 PM
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Sour grapes from lonely men. Romantically successful men don't spend their time bullying women online.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:27 PM
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That's pretty dope
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:56 PM
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You could also look back to WW2 when millions of women did traditionally male work in shipyards and factories to support the war effort. Once men came back, women got kicked out of those positions, but it's not as though they were incapable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:50 PM
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Lol this is so dramatic
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:34 PM
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The "women's options are shrinking" was written as though it was a bad thing/threat. I'm arguing that it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:17 PM
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Most women aren't posting thirst traps. The ones who are are getting external validation and/or money, and they usually play into the fantasy rather than complain about it. Western women complain about men freaking out about crop tops or shorts or leggings or showing shoulders or whatever "immodest" clothing is deemed inappropriate. We wear those because it's hot outside or because it's comfortable to work out in, not because we're asking to be sexualized.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:08 AM
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Sounds good to me tbh. Better to continue to be single than be in a relationship with someone you don't like and who you aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:26 AM
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Not only are they seen as a burden, but a very popular opinion is that people don't even want to see children in public spaces. Modern American culture is actively anti-child unless you're in a conservative religious community.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:35 AM
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Counterpoint: I don't share your values, your values aren't the norm in western nations, you have no right to impose them on me. If how women dress at the gym makes you uncomfortable, find a majority male gym or work out at home. There are plenty of countries that value modesty. Move to one of them if seeing women's skin bothers you so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:40 PM
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She'll likely flirt again. Looks like she wants external validation without the guilt of another affair. Your boundaries are reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:56 PM
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This is bleak
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:32 PM
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I think younger women are getting cosmetic treatments/procedures typically reserved for 40+ year olds which is prematurely making them look older than they are :( Skincare regimens seem good though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:32 PM
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I don't really see this in reality as much as it's touted online? The women who want to be in relationships seem to find them, and the women who want to be single stay single. My cousin is 30 and ended a five year relationship a year ago. She did her own thing for maybe six months, and now she's dating a beautiful firefighter the same age as her who seems crazy about her. Most of my single male friends (mid thirties) set their range on the apps to 25-40 or so, but I don't think they particularly…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:29 PM
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Alright, I'll concede on this one
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 11:00 PM
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That was a tough balance for me. I stuck to cardio and calorie deficits to get to my target weight range, then moved to weights when I switched to maintenance calories. Your strategy would obviously work too; it just was more difficult for me mentally. Whatever gets you in a deficit I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:09 PM
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Lifting heavy stuff makes you hungry
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:03 PM
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It worked well enough for me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 07:52 PM
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There is some overlap-it emphasizes developing your own interests/life, setting boundaries, not being a doormat. There's no focus on attracting the opposite sex, though. It's not an especially earth-shattering book, but some people need it spelled out that letting people walk over you isn't going to get you the life you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:37 PM
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There was a book that addressed this called "Why Men Love Bitches," and the underlying principal was that you can't expect anyone else to respect you if you don't respect yourself. Being a doormat in hopes of getting what you want is a bad strategy. It didn't emphasize manipulation, but it did suggest that you communicate to set expectations clearly, and if things aren't moving in the direction you want after a couple of years, do not be afraid to leave the relationship. Do not be so desperate t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:37 PM
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Feel free to ignore my advice and rant online about how unfair life is because women aren't as direct as men are. It makes no difference to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:10 PM
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I get it, and that sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:27 PM
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The fertility component is the only part that's valid imo. There is a fertility window for women that can complicate dating from 27-35/36 or so if they want a family and they go too long without a commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:12 PM
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This is just flatly incorrect. My mom's close friend was a 38 year old single mom when she married an attractive orthopedic surgeon, and they're still married 25 years on living in a gigantic house going on lavish vacations. They had a kid together as well. Both of my husband's grandmothers were widowed relatively early (50s and 60s) and both received MULTIPLE marriage proposals from hardworking, attractive men. There is no Wall, as the red pill defines it. Women can get commitment from a good m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:09 PM
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Women aren't going to be direct as we're socialized from birth not to be. If you don't want to play the game, no one is forcing you to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:53 PM
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I'm trying to give you insight-if you don't want to use it, that's fine with me. If a girl finds excuses to touch your arm and watches you to see how you react to things, she's into you. If both of those things have happened to you and she still said no, then please feel free to come back and yell at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:51 PM
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Yep, I know a lot of beautiful men who repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot and remain single. Conversely, I know some less attractive men who do very well romantically. Charm is a tough skill to learn if you don't have it naturally though, so I do have sympathy for those without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:08 PM
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Here's generally what to look for-not a perfect system, but nothing is. Does she touch you a lot? (This could admittedly go either way-I have flirtatious friends who touch everyone) Does she make excuses to talk to you? (This is a good indicator) Do you catch her looking at you, especially after someone has made a joke, to see how you react? (If this happens, she almost definitely likes you) Does she blush and look down when she's talking to you? (Ditto the last one) Does she give you random com…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:04 PM
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He rejected me because he was still with his high school girlfriend at the time and I had just met him so I didn't know that. Maybe your strategy of hating on random women online will pay off for you one day. Good luck out there :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:44 AM
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Friendship should benefit both parties. No one should stay in a relationship of any kind if it's one-sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 01:53 PM
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I married someone who started as a friend, but we were only friends because neither of us was single at the same time. If you're both available and she's not giving you any indicators of interest, she's generally not interested. Furthermore, we value our friendships in general, so we understand that if a man confesses his feelings, that friendship is irretrievably changed, if not broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 01:04 PM
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Yep, it gets aggravating seeing men praise celebrities for their "natural beauty" when those women have had all sorts of plastic surgery/Botox/fillers and never show their face without makeup. Watch what they do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:53 PM
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Men don't complain about it, but they go after the women who spend time on styling their hair and applying makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:41 PM
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The trend right now is more glowy, natural makeup anyway. Caked on makeup only looks good in pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:40 PM
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New York City has a bunch of immigrants/immigrant-descendants from places not known for their tall stature (Italians, Latin-Americans) and they do fine with women. Just need to have rizz, as they say. https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/average-height-by-state
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:27 PM
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Wow, that's awesome! Appreciate the heads up. This year has been amazing for looking up at the sky
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:30 AM
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Happy birthday, and have a nice museum date!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 11:32 PM
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I agree with you? People should always keep their resumes current in case of the worst. Risk mitigation is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:11 AM
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I'm a grown adult who doesn't want to depend on another adult for my livelihood. Who cares if it's meaningful work or not? You've missed the p point completely. Fortunately, most women haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 11:08 PM
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Agree with you- the court of public opinion is enough. I certainly hope he gets booed every time he attempts a kick, but zero interest in any official punishment from the NFL that would give him a martyr angle.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 09:40 PM
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Correct, it is. You can't control the actions of another person, and you can't guarantee that a man who loves you today will love you tomorrow. Every woman should have a backup plan, even if she plans on being a SAHM.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 09:27 PM
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Maybe you don't care, but she does. Women have collectively decided they by and large want economic independence, and the sour grapes posted by men they wouldn't want anyway isn't going to change that. Stake your future on yourself, not another person. It's good advice for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 09:18 PM
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Plenty of women have seen other women get fucked over by staking their bets on their men, and as a result you see more women than ever before pursuing economic freedom. No putting that genie back in the bottle now. Moreover, are there any countries that enforce traditional values that you'd actually want to live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 09:05 PM
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I'm with you on the jobs you listed 100%. Hard pass on all. I went on one date with a rich finance major and it was easily the worst date I've ever been on in my life. My pro tip for women in college is go for the science and engineering students. They're intellectually curious and work hard and likely won't be threatened by you being smart or working hard. Plus, check out those low divorce rates: https://www.monster.com/career-advice/article/job-divorce-rate-1017
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:15 PM
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Casual sex would evaporate, rapid increase in permanent sterilization procedures (assuming those were still allowed), increase in child abuse, increase in poverty
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:26 PM
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Age 25 for the younger party is my answer. The rational part of your brain has undergone significant development. https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=1&ContentID=3051 That's the age you can be a US House Representative, you can rent an AirBnb on your own, and you can rent a car on your own without penalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 03:50 PM
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Being a genius in one field does not mean you know everything about every topic. Talk to a PhD, and you'll see that clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 03:34 PM
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Fully agree. If your partner is decently well adjusted and had a good childhood then what OP says applies. If your partner is dealing with unresolved trauma, there will always be a risk of them blowing up the relationship. That said, fretting about / banning your partner from going on a trip with their friends as a means to eliminate cheating is A) ineffective and B) no way to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 02:56 AM
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I have a BMI in that range and I will absolutely not be attending
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:28 PM
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I don't think this is an unreasonable preference at all. Even moving past aesthetics, you want someone with a compatible lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:25 PM
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Nice job! Weight loss is a slog, but it's worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:24 PM
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You don't need to have the children lol one of life's blessings if you're a man
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:23 PM
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I don't disagree with you there. Misogyny and misandry are both rampant on Instagram and TikTok, likely because outrage generates engagement. Social media is almost certainly a net negative for interpersonal relationships as a whole, for a whole host of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:33 PM
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It may be my social circles, but I don't know any woman who stays single for long if her desire is a committed relationship. My frame of reference is mid 20s to mid 30s though. One the other end, women I know who have been widowed, even relatively young, aren't entertaining male attention at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:30 PM
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I have a lot of female friends and relatives in the 20s-30s age range and I'm not seeing the distress. Every women I know that wants a committed relationship (which is pretty much all of them) has one, and all of the guys they're with are decent people. Conversely, I've personally observed male relatives fall down the Peterson/Tate rabbit hole, and they've been single for years. I'd feel bad, but they publicly like a lot of vile misogynistic and homophobic content on social media, so it's of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:24 PM
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Damage control? Women are happily choosing to be single at greater rates than ever before, while men are bemoaning a loneliness epidemic. If anyone needs to do damage control, it's men. I'm not seeing that happening anytime soon, so I guess they'll continue thirsting over internet porn/Ig models, complaining about "female entitlement" and failing to find to fulfilling romantic relationships. Ah well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:55 PM
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"The phrase "feminine mystique" was coined by Friedan to describe the assumptions that women would be fulfilled from their housework, marriage, sexual lives, and children. The prevailing belief was that women who were truly feminine should not want to work, get an education, or have political opinions. Friedan wanted to prove that women were unsatisfied and could not voice their feelings." I have no idea what you were referring to
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:55 PM
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I don't demonize stay at home wives-I understand that having a parent at home is likely better for kids than sending them to daycare or having a nanny. However, you shouldn't enter that situation without some marketable skills in case things go south. Staking your livelihood on another person is a risky gamble.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:47 PM
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It definitely applies to both genders, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:43 PM
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The sex ratio in NYC is heavily skewed female, especially at younger ages. https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F40hvu0rysgj81.jpg If a man looks good and has his shit together, it's a good place to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:52 PM
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The title stated women are bad at rejection. I don't think women really claim they are good at handling rejection, so I don't know what the point of this statement/debate is if not to juxtapose it with men being better at handling rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:45 PM
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Men and women are both bad at handling rejection. To your examples about women, I give you this series of example about men: r/whenwomenrefuse Furthermore, I don't think women spend a lot of time claiming they're better at handling rejection than men are. We just don't usually approach men because we don't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 02:30 PM
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More women are going to college than men, and jobs that require college degrees pay more over a lifetime than jobs that rely on physical labor. So no, your point still doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:44 PM
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If every job relied on physical strength, then you would have a relevant point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:25 PM
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Feminism doesn't deny the reality that most men are bigger and stronger than most women. Weird comment
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:06 PM
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I love low male and female voices. High pitched male is mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:38 PM
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I went to a music festival 7 months pregnant, so sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:38 PM
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Prejudice is a bias against something without reason. Women are cautious of men in the woods because women have been murdered by men in the woods. In a survey of 2000 female recreators, over 90% had been catcalled, and over 50% had been followed (myself included). That is the exact opposite of forming an opinion without reason. That's forming an opinion from experience. https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/climbing/state-outdoorswoman-2017/ Some men are intellectually honest enough to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:17 PM
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I wear tight gym clothes when I work out at home in front of no one. It's annoying doing a lot of exercises with baggy clothes on because they get in the way of the exercise or they get too sweaty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:56 PM
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Is being scared of men misandry? I always thought of misandry as the hatred of men. You can like men but still be fearful of what they might do. That all said, I hike quite a bit, and I'd much, much rather pass a random male hiker than run into a bear, even a black bear. I'm honestly impressed/curious people aren't particularly scared of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:52 PM
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Nickelback and it isn't even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:34 PM
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John Lennon's music (though I'm mostly a George stan); Kurt Cobain as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:33 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/ Women do more chores even in marriages where they are the primary breadwinner. From the study in the article you cite: "The gender imbalance in time spent on caregiving persists, even in marriages where wives are the breadwinners. Women who are the primary earner in their marriage spend slightly more time than husbands on paid work, and they have considerably less leis…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:54 PM
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If there is a draft, women should be part of it, but most prominent feminist groups oppose the draft altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:49 PM
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Your beliefs about life in the 90s are patently false. Women have always and will continue to do the majority of childcare and the majority of housework regardless of whether they are employed outside the home or not, at least in the United States. All of your examples are Instagram/TikTok rage bait. The VAST majority of women aren't being flown out anywhere. Influencers whose job it is to look good are the exception, not the rule. My parents both worked outside of the home and they pooled all o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:31 PM
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I think he's just saying that values and goals should be aligned rather than appearance and personality. You should both have similar stances on how you want your relationship to look, on kids, finances, where you want to live, gender roles, arguably politics. This is great advice for anyone looking for a committed relationship, honestly. You may be insanely attracted to another person, but if your values do not align you're in for a world of hurt down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:34 AM
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I don't understand any of these talking points. Women are aware that height matters. We just disagree with the assertion that "it's over" if you aren't six feet. It's self-defeating nonsense. Not wanting to date an obese woman is literally fine. No one is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to ask out a woman you aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:17 AM
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I am truly sorry about your nephew, but that doesn't change the fact that waiting until you are established and secure in your mate (which often doesn't happen until late 20s/early 30s) is likely the better option for most women. I fully agree with you that two parent households are preferred for childrearing, but marriages are more likely to stay intact if they occur when both individuals are over the age of 25. Women know that there is a biological clock, I promise you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 04:02 PM
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Women giving birth in their mid 20s to early 30s have the lowest risk of having babies with chromosomal abnormalities. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-80968-4 Teen pregnancies are bad for everyone involved in pretty much every facet you can measure. Advanced maternal age pregnancies aren't ideal from a health perspective, but there's evidence to suggest the benefits of being born to an older mother may outweigh the biologic risks (kids tend to be healthier, taller, get more education …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:53 PM
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I am woman and I'll tell you outright that charm/confidence/charisma are the most important factors in getting your foot in the door with a woman. You don't need height, you don't need a good face, you don't need a lot of money, you don't need a good body, you just need to be charming. If you have charm and any of those other things it makes it even easier. Unfortunately, charm is the most difficult characteristic to hone if you don't come by it naturally. But surely you could see that just by o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:23 PM
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Please don't take what you read on Instagram seriously. Outrage generates engagement. It's harming everyone's mental health, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 07:55 PM
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Why would we call another woman out for having a lot of sex by using a gendered slur? It's her business. No man will call out another man for the same. If you want to prize virginity, so be it, but don't expect women to carry your water for you. A man who uses gendered slurs is a man women should avoid, so the word is useful in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:47 AM
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I think desperation turns a lot of women off, even if the man is otherwise attractive. If a man is married, the desperation is gone. That said, I don't disagree that pre-selection likely has something to do with it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 01:54 AM
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This is such a desperately sad way to the view the world
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:18 PM
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Right, and older (65+) women have the lowest suicide rates of any adult demographic in that same figure. There's also this study that finds divorced men commit suicide at significantly higher rates than married men, but marital status has no impact on suicide rates for women. I'm focusing on suicide because it's difficult to assess happiness/sadness by other proxies. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1731658/#:~:text=RESULTS%E2%80%94For%20the%20entire%20sample,significant%20effect%20o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:08 PM
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That likely just indicates women are more likely to seek treatment for depression than men, not that they are more depressed. Looking at Figure 2 (describing patterns of suicide by age and sex), one might infer that depression is a major issue for men at nearly every age, but most strikingly so in the 75+ age group. https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/statistics/suicide
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 04:48 PM
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Yep, there are a few cases where the captain forced men to let women and children go first (the Titanic) but men are much more likely to survive maritime disasters. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1207156109
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:28 PM
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It's hilarious that you're calling other people bitter given your edit and responses. Pot calling the kettle black. Let me ask you this: If you had a daughter, would you mind if she brought home a man 20 years her senior to meet you? If not, then I suppose I'll give you props for your ethical consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:53 PM
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Yep, if age gaps weren't a problem you wouldn't see fathers and brothers so pissed when their daughter/sister brings home someone much older. Men know men and the ones who love us tell us to avoid older men, so what should we be inferring from that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:42 PM
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A man dating a woman with a fully developed prefrontal cortex is a total non-issue. He's also dated women his own age and women older than him, which completely flies in the face of what you're claiming. His preference is "attractive woman" and he doesn't set some weird expiration date on women like you all do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:17 PM
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For real-who the hell would ever want to marry someone with this kind of garbage mentality? You're all telling on yourselves which I honestly think is great as more women than ever before are choosing to be single rather than deal with your misogynistic BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:13 PM
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Older men (35+) who pursue 18 year olds are absolutely losers, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:11 PM
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I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of women have been harassed by much older men at some point in their lives, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:08 PM
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My guess is you won't end up divorced with this mentality anyway. Kudos to you and your spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:17 PM
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Same exact opinion. They definitely look good on some men, but they feel awful. Clean shaven all the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:11 AM
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Yes, it is definitely a compliment. Cillian Murphy, Ian Somerhalder, young Johnny Depp, Timothee Chalamet are all "pretty" but very appealing. I've only ever dated guys with nice faces-it matters a lot more to me than body type provided there's some reasonable level of fitness there. Being called "cute" on the other hand could go either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:17 PM
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It doesn't matter if it's the lowest common denominator. A woman has no idea what caliber of man she's dealing with when she's hit on by a stranger, so it's better to play it safe, be polite and get herself out of there in one piece.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 03:46 PM
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It's always been that way. "The Wall" is a revenge fantasy that rarely plays out in real life. Most men who couldn't attract women at 20 still won't attract women at 40. Marriages are least likely to end in divorce the closer in age the two partners are. And more women are content to be single at older ages than men. Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:04 PM
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I'm in NY in a pretty economically successful social circle, and half of the members of my friend group of about 24 or so met their future spouse in college. I'm now 34, but marriages started around age 25 and peaked around ages 27-28. An old FB study found that 28% of married college grads attended the same school as their spouse, so it's not off base to suggest that a lot of people are pairing up early.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:01 PM
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Look at the sub you're in lol. Dumb and misogynistic is the name of the game.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/03/21 02:43 PM
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This analysis disputes that, and suggests that the scale effect that I described dominates the substitution effect that you described. Just something to consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 02:24 PM
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The easier explanation is that more men would visit prostitutes were it legal. Prostitution is not a desirable job for most women for myriad reasons, so you have a demand that's much greater than the supply. Enter human trafficking to fill that gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 01:51 PM
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I've found what you're saying to be true for hookups, not for long term relationships and marriages. I'm in a social circle filled with doctors, lawyers, engineers, PhD scientists-not one man has married "beneath" him, so to speak. There are studies to bear this out-people marry others in their same social class, and this effect is becoming more pronounced over time. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/23/upshot/rise-in-marriages-of-equals-and-in-division-by-class.html
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:11 PM
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In my experience, smart men marry smart women. I've never seen a man in my social circle marry much "beneath" him. I think it's true that a man will have sex with an attractive woman no matter her financial/career prospects, but I've not seen that born out in relationships or marriages at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:56 PM
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There's a reason widowed men jump right into another marriage while widowed women tend to stay single (I have studies to back that up if you'd like them). Marriage tends to benefit men more than it does women. Married men live longer than single men, whereas single women live longer than married women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 03:48 PM
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This subreddit is absolutely misogynistic lmfao. It's relishing in women specifically getting their "just desserts." I'm sure a subreddit like this about men or about people of a certain race would be taken extremely well 🙄
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