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Allowing yourself to be completely dependent on another person is an incredibly risky proposition. That's what's driving the concern. Best case scenario, a single earner makes enough money for a comfortable life, you get to spend time with your kids, and you retire in comfort. Worst case scenario, your partner divorces you or dies and you're left to provide for a family with scant work experience/education.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:31 AM
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People constantly behave in suboptimal ways. Smoking, drinking, eating too much junk food, not getting enough exercise, not socializing. Unless some external force was implemented, I can't really see it moving the needle too much. Most tradwife content is already pushing the narrative that SAHMs are happier and more fulfilled, and young women as a whole don't appear to be buying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:38 AM
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Carrying a pregnancy inherently puts a person's health at risk; that's not the case with being given a dog pup. Some (most) would argue a person shouldn't be forced by the government to sustain another person at risk to their own health/life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:40 PM
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I had a life threatening issue that resulted in a termination during my first (very much wanted) pregnancy. Fortunately for me, I had three maternal fetal medicine specialists making the recommendation and not a red piller talking out of his ass about something he clearly doesn't understand. If you'd like a list of conditions that may result in a medical recommendation for termination, please let me know. Aggressively misinformed and confident is an unfortunate combination.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:17 PM
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I think more men should openly talk about women expiring/being past their prime after 25 so women know who they should avoid for long term partnership. It's a wonderful filtering mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:37 AM
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Despite the increased financial burdens a woman may put on a man, as you put it, men are still choosing to remarry at three times the rate of women in the event of an untimely death of a partner. That indicates that any potential financial strain is much less of a deterrent to partnership for men than the added domestic strain is for women. If what men brought to marriage was, on average, as life enhancing as what women brought to marriage, women would be seeking it out again after experiencing …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:50 AM
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It's more because domestic labor increases substantially for women when they have husbands. They value the minimal domestic burden that being single brings.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:26 PM
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All of the widows I know remained unmarried, even if their spouses died decades earlier. Most widowers are/were in new relationships within a couple of years. This study is a bit outdated, but: "By 25 months after the spouse's death 61% of men and 19% of women were either remarried or involved in a new romance. Women expressed more negative feelings about forming new romantic relationships." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8807029/ There's a good amount of evidence that suggests women are more c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 07:43 PM
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I said the common recommendation was to teach your child to seek out a mother if they're lost. You called me a sexist despite that being the perspective of a child safety expert. Gavin DeBecker claims a mother is preferred not only for the lower risk of predation but also the increased likelihood of her ensuring the child gets to safety. "GO TO A MOM. Instead of teaching kids to find a police officer, security guard or salesperson if they’re lost and scared, instruct them to find a mom, which ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 07:38 PM
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I think most people would benefit from listening to expertise, particularly when it comes to their child's safety, but you're free to ignore that advice as you'd like.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 05:37 PM
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These stats are just incorrect, at least in the United States. Filicide occurs about 500 times a year and here's what we know about offenders: "Among offenders, while fathers were about equally likely to kill an infant, they were more likely to be the alleged murderer of children older than a year, especially when the children were adults (fathers were the offenders in 78.3 percent of those cases). Overall, fathers were the accused murderer 57.4 percent of the time." So 500× 43.6 murder proprtio…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 05:19 PM
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The military is a great example underscoring OPs point. Women who voluntarily serve in the military experience extraordinary levels of sexual violence from their own countrymen. That doesn't seem very protective to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 04:58 PM
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Take it up with the male security experts giving the same advice then. You want to roll those dice with a stranger, go for it. To add some relevant reading material: "Our study examines the prior offending of 750 individuals who are known to be responsible for the abduction of a child under the age of 18 years. The first group comprised of 311 offenders (42%) who had abducted a child that was later located alive (found alive, referred to as FA). The second group was comprised of 439 offenders (5…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 04:51 PM
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What is your definition of protector? A group of people security experts tell children to look for to keep them safe seems to meet the definition to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 04:36 PM
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Gavin DeBecker is an American security specialist (and author of The Gift of Fear) and directly gives that advice: https://time.com/archive/6666916/the-new-safety-rules-for-kids/ "GO TO A MOM. Instead of teaching kids to find a police officer, security guard or salesperson if they’re lost and scared, instruct them to find a mom, which generally means someone with a stroller or a child in tow. Police officers and clerks are scarce when you need them, and De Becker says women are more likely than …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 03:40 PM
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Kds are taught to find the nearest woman for help when they're lost, not the nearest man. Why do you think that is? Would you teach your child to seek out a man for assistance?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 02:14 PM
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Every developed country besides the United States has some form of universal healthcare, and the United States has horrible health metrics compared to a lot of those other developed nations. Why settle for such an expensive and mediocre option? Seems illogical not to try to do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:29 AM
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Women married to men their same age live longer, report higher satisfaction, and experience lower rates of divorce than those who marry older men (especially significantly older). Further, same age couples tend to have higher household incomes than age gap couples. Further, you need to worry about staggered retirements, being thrust into a premature caregiving role, and early widowhood. And that's not even addressing the point that women tend to find men the same age most attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 03:14 AM
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Working nets you an income which provides you food, shelter, and hopefully opportunities for recreation and preparation for retirement. Your job is easy and still provides you those things. People having children provides a benefit to society, but in the United States there are almost no individual incentives to continue to do so for women. It is a culture hostile to mothers and to children-hyperindividualistic and aggressively negative about children existing in public places with a weak social…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:53 AM
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What? A minority of women (45%) and a majority of men (55%) voted for Trump. It is true that most white women voted for Trump, though (53% I believe). https://cawp.rutgers.edu/blog/gender-differences-2024-presidential-vote
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:56 PM
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The most progressive man I know played professional baseball. Another liberal friend is a Navy SEAL. Another lives in a rural area working a blue collar field and works out daily. Conservatives acting like they have a monopoly on masculinity after voting for an obese spray tanned con artist is truly bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 01:18 AM
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Agreed-that is great advice
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 02:28 AM
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Very fair point
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 02:27 AM
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Men produce more collagen, which will help with wrinkles for a time, but excessive exposure to UV rays is going to take its toll in terms of both aging and skin cancer. Men are considerably more likely to develop and die from skin cancer than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 07:58 PM
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I fully disagree. Both of my parents worked full time, but my dad went above and beyond to help around the house and care for his kids. I never saw him as less masculine for having done so, and neither did anyone else. I watched the guy I eventually married clean his entire apartment after throwing ragers with his suitemates in college. It has worked out wonderfully. The Millennial men who have reproduced are much more involved in childcare than any generation of men before them. The men who ref…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 01:34 PM
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No, I've only ever dated progressives, and my husband is more left than I am. Anecdotally, all of my leftist male friends have had a lot of luck romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:55 PM
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For women, the optimal strategy appears to be marrying someone as close to your own age as possible (See Figure 4) . Marrying much younger or much older increases your relative risk of mortality. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3000022/ This is an anecdote but my ancestor was a fille du roi (woman who traveled from France to Quebec to help expand the new colonies). They got to pick their own husbands. She canceled two marriage contracts before choosing to marry someone exactly her age, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:54 AM
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I'm with you. I fail to see how it's a problem that men who take interest in things women like find romantic success. Further, it's not "performative" for a lot of them- humans are varied and have different interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:12 PM
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If you were a woman, do you think you'd have a better time with a man who reads feminist literature (even performatively, as you postulate) or a man who believes all women are children, western women are worthless and obsesses about body counts? Dating is all about optimizing outcomes for yourself. Given the ubiquity of manosphere content and the relatively recent trend of young men failing to form meaningful romantic relationships with women, I'm not going to begrudge "performative" males for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:57 PM
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I don't think anyone would disagree with you that a being a pushover is an unattractive trait, but liking books and music made by women doesn't make you a pushover. A confident man who isn't obsessed with being perceived as masculine enough is incredibly attractive. Look at Cillian Murphy as a celebrity example-he's quiet, he likes to read, he's attended protests for women's rights in Ireland, he's dressed in drag for movies and he's still a celebrity crush for a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:09 AM
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I don't accept the OPs premise that liking things women typically like means you're a pushover who is going to end up in a bad relationship. A lot of men genuinely enjoy reading/listening to music made by female artists/drinking matcha (and a lot of those men have traditionally male interests, too). I'm a Millennial who was friends with a lot of the skinny jeans/nail polish-wearing men mentioned as the previous version of the "performative male." Most of them were musicians, none of them ever la…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:46 AM
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Crime is much lower now than it was when women were awarded the right to vote. What a bizarre argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 12:02 AM
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You presumably voted for a literal sexual predator who was best friends with a convicted pedophile. Maybe sit this one out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:59 PM
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Estimates suggest one third to one half of women experience sexual assault at the hands of men. Should we write all of you off as bad actors? I'd argue it's good practice to, at a minimum, avoid men who post misogynistic content online. You can do the same with people who used the Tea app, if that suits you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 12:48 PM
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Men on this subreddit seem uniquely allergic to accountability. A woman's leading risk of death during pregnancy in the United States is homicide at the hands of their intimate partner. Every woman you know has been sexually harassed, and I'd wager a bet most have been sexual assaulted. "Not all men"TM but enough that a woman should be extremely selective in who she dates, and men who openly espouse misogyny should be disqualified outright.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 12:37 PM
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Calling out shitty behavior isn't starting a hate group. Men en masse are online calling women mid, ran through, 304s, expired, and then they're crying that women don't want to be with them. A woman's highest risk of violence comes from her partner- it's wise to avoid misogynists to minimize that risk. Women aren't killing men when they get angry. The big threat to men was "divorce rape," but now women don't want to marry most men anyway, so problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:29 AM
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Ugly men absolutely get laid. They can and do compensate for their looks in charm, power, money, talent, humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 12:44 PM
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More women than men are graduating from both med school and from law school. But don't let facts get in the way of your sexist nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:00 PM
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A man who votes for universal healthcare, strengthening of global alliances, and supporting environmental conservation does not equate to a "man who wears dresses." Trump supporters voted for a draft dodger who was held liable for sexual assault, bankrupted multiple casinos, defrauded his charity, and rambles on TruthSocial like a doddering old man. He also cheated on all of his wives. His second-hand man uses his immense wealth to advocate against programs keeping seniors out of poverty. Why co…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 10:23 PM
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I had a wanted pregnancy go south, rendering the fetus non-viable and putting my health at risk. Three different doctors at the Catholic-affiliated hospital where I was receiving care said termination was the only reasonable option in my situation, but they themselves could not perform the procedure because of the Catholic affiliation. My (liberal) husband's only question was how quickly they could transfer my care to a secular hospital to get the procedure done because he was worried about my h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 09:29 PM
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This is fair. There are millions of men who voted against the current administration, and millions more who didn't vote at all. They shouldn't be conflated with Trump supporters.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 01:56 PM
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You're cute af and don't let anyone tell you different
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:58 PM
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Fully disagree. I have a group of mostly male friends I made in jr high/high school, and I was upset when a couple of them hit on me when I became single in college. I liked playing basketball and super smash brothers with them, I didn't want anything more. I'm still friends with them many years on, with the added bonus that they all married wonderful women. I wasn't in it for the ego rush at all-I just liked their company.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 08:08 PM
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So what constitutes a HVM to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 05:41 PM
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Same. Everyone I've dated (including the man I married) has had female friends. My dad had a close female friend for decades until she died of breast cancer, and my mom never had any kind of problem with it. I find so many of the takes on this subreddit reductive and sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 04:55 PM
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The men who make up the Forbes 400 are outliers, and even then, you aren't seeing the age gaps espoused by RP men here. My social circle is full of doctors, lawyers, 7 they nearly uniformly chose to marry women similar in age, attractiveness, and intellect. Pro athletes (who are certainly outliers) also don't seem to be going after girls much younger than they are-a lot marry their high school or college sweethearts. I just don't see this Red Pill claim play out in the real world. The most attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:45 PM
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Nah, on average, this just isn't the case. Most attractive, intelligent, socially competent men pair off with women close to their own age. The average age gap in marriage is 2 years, and marriages among those close in age are least likely to dissolve. Celebrities like Leonardo DiCaprio are outliers, not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:41 PM
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At least they still have "hit the gym"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:18 PM
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Congrats, you turned a salient point into a pointless gendered attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:02 PM
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Google "treatment of women in the military" and get back to me on why there might be such a profound gender disparity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 02:00 AM
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Yep, and kids are generally told to seek out women if they need help, not men. Also, men here all the time say how they are under no obligation to help women. Duly noted, but don't turn around and try to pretend to be heroes. Some men absolutely are, but none who have that mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:55 AM
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After she was no longer restrained, one mother ran in to get her kids out with no protective gear and no weapons while those cowards stood around with their big boy weapons and let children get gunned down. Fuck, it makes my blood boil every time I think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:54 AM
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Ah, sorry to hear that, but glad to hear it's mild. Good luck on Tuesday to you and your wife-that's exciting!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:22 AM
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The women who are OK with 50/50 are nearly always feminists, and we all know how most men here feel about feminism. Puts them in quite the position lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 06:53 PM
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FDR
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 01:12 PM
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It is a horrible idea to have a child with a man who won't put a ring on it, I'm sorry, but never ever ever. And she gave the kid his name too ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 01:41 AM
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I went on one date with a finance bro and that was more than enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 04:24 PM
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Mike Judge is a prophet
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:57 AM
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Fully disagree. I only know a few stay at home dads, but they take their jobs seriously, and their families are much better off for it. I have no idea why people care so much what other people choose to do with their lives. If you want to go out and provide, by all means, do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:12 AM
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Divorce rates are also the lowest they've ever been, and married men live longer, make more money, and report higher happiness levels than divorced men or single men. Divorce is a nightmare for anyone who goes through it (from what I've observed), but marriage is a great boon if one manages to find a good partner. I would argue a lot of RP philosophy is antithetical to that end. It's tough to make a marriage work with someone who truly believes all women are children looking to upgrade at a mome…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:08 AM
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I wouldn't blend finances in a relationship without marriage. Keep everything separate if there's no legal commitment. In marriage, I'm a big advocate of blending finances, especially if kids are involved. https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2022-42962-001 As it is I am married and had kids. All finances are merged. We discuss financial topics regularly to make sure we're on the same page, and we run purchases by each other. He lets me manage all of our retirement accounts because I like to do it, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:58 PM
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That was a tough read
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:38 PM
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The disparity results from a much larger proportion of young, single women being liberal than young, single men. There is a 50/50 split, but younger single men and older married women are driving that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:19 PM
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Unless there's some context missing (partner has cheated using social media/with person they're about to hang out with), I would say no. But even then, the person should just leave rather than try to police another adult. So my vote is yes, too controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:56 PM
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I agree with you, and that behavior sucks too. Punching down is unnecessary and unhelpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:32 PM
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I agree with you that there's a threshold where a man is attractive enough that some women will compromise their morals to be with him. However, I'd argue the proportion of men meeting that threshold is vanishingly small. Men on the bubble will absolutely go from possible relationship candidate to ruled out based on a Trump vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:50 PM
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150k is the 90th percentile for individual income in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:27 AM
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Every time I read something like the parent comment you replied to I just roll my eyes. You're in the 93rd percentile for individual income if you're pulling down 175K. I acknowledge that there are a few cities in the US where maybe that isn't much, but anywhere else in the country you're doing extremely well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:25 AM
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The OP is trying to find a solution to the gender divide that isn't blaming women for not catering to men enough. That's the opposite of most posts here since the election.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:20 AM
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That's fair enough. I've got nothing but positive feelings toward men that chose to vote against Trump, though the opinions of one woman may not mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:19 PM
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On the contrary, liberal men seem to be the only men without enormous victim complexes. Trump won-why are people who voted for him so mad? You got what you wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:42 PM
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The liberal men in my life are as pissed as I am about what just happened. They don't feel responsibility for Roe v Wade being overturned because they aren't responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:13 PM
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Agreed. I also don't get pissed with people blaming white women for Trump's victory despite being one myself. I'm as annoyed as anyone else that my demographic broke for Trump, and I know I'm not personally contributing to that trend, so why would I take it personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:06 PM
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Nor is it about you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:05 PM
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Women are amping up their hostilities because Roe v Wade was overturned. On the interpersonal-relationship level, men have spent decades telling women they lose value as they age, that they hit the Wall, that they better enjoy being a childless cat-lady if they miss their window. There were also ubiquitous "wife bad, wife ball and chain, my life is miserable because of my wife" jokes for the women who did partner up. Instead of dating men with such sentiments, women are electing to remain single…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:59 PM
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He said he's bi
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:53 PM
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A much larger proportion of Millennials voted than did Gen Z, so the 43-47% difference in exit polling among men results in millions more Millennial men who voted Harris than did Gen Z men. I give a lot of credit to the male Gen Z Harris voters. They're just going to be in short supply since women prefer to date men with similar ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:52 PM
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No worries, I've only dated progressive men, and then I married one. He's protected me on an individual level and at a societal level through his votes. Hence the advice to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:50 PM
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Democratic Presidents received a higher proportion of votes from young men when Millennials were coming of age than now, so no, it doesn't mean that at all. I've got no issue with Gen Z men who voted Harris, and I even understand feeling disenchanted with politics and sitting an election out. For the Trump voters, stand on your vote. You severely limited your dating pool considering the political affiliation of the majority of young women, but presumably that was an acceptable outcome. I hope Tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:44 PM
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Millennial men are not becoming as conservative as expected with time; that's my point. I agree it's not helpful from a political perspective to finger point if you're looking to win elections. However, I also believe it's unreasonable to compromise on major fundamental values for the sake of a relationship. Two different entities. Politically, I feel for men who feel left behind and are voting to change the system. Romantically, I'm never sleeping with someone who looked at Trump and saw anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:19 AM
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Gen Z men took a hard turn right comparing last election to this one, whereas Millennials went a bit more conservative but not really. A higher proportion of Millennials voted than Gen Z as well, so the 43% of them represents a lot more men than the 47% of Gen Z men. Obviously there are millions of Gen Z men who didn't vote for Trump, and they'll have a major dating advantage for the foreseeable future.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:30 AM
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I'm not angry at all. I offered it as a solution to women trying to avoid men with attitudes like yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:23 AM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls Only 4% difference comparing Gen Z to Millennial men, but a much greater proportion of Millennials voted than did Gen Z.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:22 AM
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You may, but millions don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:02 AM
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To any Gen Z woman reading this: I fully support age gaps if it means avoiding Gen Z men with attitudes like this. Either vet your man very carefully or come get yourself a Millennial man. They saw 9/11/Iraq/Afghanistan, lived through a recession, and interacted with the opposite sex in person, so even the conservative ones aren't this intrinsically bitter. Leave men like this to worship their daddy Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:47 AM
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I'm college-educated UMC as they come and none of the men I dated would let me pay for the check, despite my offering.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:57 PM
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I agree with your general point. Women in their 20s are capable of making adult decisions. I disagree with the jealousy take I see here all the time, though. I don't care at all if men my age pursue younger women, and I wasn't jealous of friends dating older men when I was younger. Personally, I had much better interactions with men my own age, and I chose to date and marry men very close to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:50 PM
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But haven't there been a number of games you could argue prioritize DEI while being wildly successful? Spiderman 2, Baldur's Gate 3, God of War? I assume video game companies are driven by market forces-they want to put out a product that appeals to the greatest number of people. If they put out a bad game and redirect course when it gets trashed by ratings, that's completely reasonable. For movies, I think there have been more inventive, creative movies released in recent years than I've seen i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:51 PM
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Gay men have a lot of issues in the dating world, but getting casual sex isn't one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:41 PM
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"I did a thing" would have had me bailing. I know a lot of men here get mad at the ick, but good grief.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:40 PM
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I don't think that makes you cynical. It's just the truth. Your job is a means to an end. It's freeing, in a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:34 PM
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No, it's not the same men. Men who think "DEI hires" are the reason they aren't succeeding when billionaires are literally siphoning up all the excess wealth as fast they can manage are too dumb to be reasoned with. It's a billionaire-funded talking point to keep the working class at each other's throats. I have a lot of compassion for men who feel frustrated they aren't reaching the life milestones their parents and grandparents. I agree a lot of messaging geared toward men boils down to "Your …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:22 PM
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If it's men complaining about DEI, I honestly couldn't care less about pulling those votes. If it's speaking to younger men who feel they don't have a future to look forward to, I think there would be merit in engaging with that audience directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:29 PM
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Yep, my husband begrudgingly voted for Kamala, but he is pretty left-wing, so most of his votes on the Presidential level have been begrudging. He enthusiastically voted for Bernie Sanders. Harris lost because millions of people stayed home, not because Trump suddenly became more popular. The path forward for Democrats is to either genuinely appeal to the working class or to run a charismatic man (Obama, Clinton) on neoliberal policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:22 PM
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She did nothing wrong, especially if he wasn't saying anything to indicate further interest after they spent the night together. That said, hearing he used the phrase "I did a thing" immediately biased my opinion in her favor, so you can take my opinion with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:13 PM
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No woman wants a rich man who doesn't give her anything
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:13 AM
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Were I single, I wouldn't bat an eye at dating someone in the trades provided they were intellectually curious, and I have a PhD. Electricians are essential to the functioning of society and they make good money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 02:13 PM
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Honestly, never. I've seen a lot of beautiful men but I just admire and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 02:07 PM
9

Same lol. They have fun when they're young then settle down with families in their 30s. Men are free to avoid whoever they like, but it's sour grapes to pretend that these women all have miserable, unfulfilling lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:45 PM
6

Unfortunately, I am much more boring than that. I just like easy-going people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:42 PM
12

Disagreeing with someone's opinion doesn't mean I'm offended by it, and generally speaking, I don't think people who are easily offended are hanging around a controversial debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:42 PM
12

My idea of fun is climbing mountains and going to shows. Just nice to see someone who doesn't take everything so seriously here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:55 AM
50

At least there are some fun people on this subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 02:12 AM
2

I know this is bait, but holy cow is that woman beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:55 AM
1

*and everyone else's
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:54 AM
2

Agree with you 100%. I can't imagine being violated like that and then mocked when you try to turn to someone for support.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:54 AM
3

I appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 09:24 PM
2

Jesus, what a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:54 PM
18

Right. I feel like a very popular sentiment is "Don't have kids you can't afford." Women who want kids are trying to pair up with men who can afford them in a country with limited social safety nets, and even still, two working parents has become the norm, so it's not like most women expect the man to carry all of the financial weight on his shoulders.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:48 PM
36

I'd hazard a guess that generalizing all American women as having "bitch attitudes" isn't doing you any favors. I promise you no American woman is insisting you date them. There are plenty of men who like American women well enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:46 PM
5

I'm sorry about your dad. I think the answer to your question is that men tend not to build robust social support networks while women tend to seek those out. Loneliness is a killer. The men who break that mold do fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:44 PM
7

Women have always worked; now they're just getting paid for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:36 PM
3

So we should ignore a campaign started in the past week but give credence to one that occurred in Great Britain over 100 years ago? Y'all are so desperate to play the victim. There hasn't been a draft in the US in over 50 years and women are dying from inadequate medical care thanks to theocratic laws right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:32 PM
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Because they refuse to acknowledge that doctors should be consulted in matters concerning women's health, not theocratic lawmakers. I had one of those abortion for health of the mother edge cases. My membranes ruptured at 14 weeks, rendering the pregnancy non-viable (fetal lung development would be inadequate in the absence of amniotic fluid that early on in pregnancy). Membrane rupture is also infection risk without delivery occurring closely afterwards. At the Catholic hospital where I was rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:28 PM
2

Most men just voted for the administration that made those women dying possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:17 PM
1

Yes. The birth rate is already low, and if women cannot receive appropriate care when their life is at risk, they're going to elect to stop putting themselves in the position to be at risk at all. I had to terminate my first pregnancy because my membranes ruptured at 13 weeks gestation while I was on a walk. The pregnancy was rendered non-viable due to the lack of amniotic fluid (fetal lungs cannot develop properly in the absence of it), I was showing signs of infection, three doctors at my Cath…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:29 PM
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Men vote for a conman who mismanaged everything last time and blame it on women, then dare come here and say women are the ones allergic to accountability. It'd be amusing if it weren't about to fuck so many people over.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 01:21 PM
1

I have empathy for the people struggling economically who voted for change because they hoped change would be better. I have no empathy for men who voted Trump because women didn't listen to them enough. But they got what they wished for. Just don't say we didn't warn you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:22 AM
2

Not really, I voted for the administration that led the US to one of the best post-COVID economic recoveries in the world. If you value punishing women more than economic growth, that's fine be me, but at least take some accountability. We'll see what Democrat is elected in 2028 to clean things up again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:03 AM
2

If you think abortion is tantamount to murder, and the baby itself didn't do anything wrong, then why is it OK to murder that baby? By carving out a rape exception, you seem to recognize there's a difference between aborting a fetus and killing a live-born child.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:36 PM
1

Women aren't going to stop having sex with their liberal boyfriends/husbands. Conservative men with conservative women will also be fine. The only thing this might impact is dating which was already rough for conservative men going after liberal women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:05 PM
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At least the comments were on point
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:49 PM
1

Passion, I love my job
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:47 PM
1

Liberal women will still sleep with liberal men. Conservative women will sleep with conservative men. Single women in urban areas will almost certainly vet more carefully and screen out the apolitical/moderate/I don't talk about my politics types in addition to the overt Trump fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:55 PM
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From what I understand, MGTOW was banned for hate speech and threats of violence. If there was a subreddit where women were consistently advocating for violence against men, I'd hope that subreddit would be shut down too. As it is, women are advocating to avoid sleeping with men, which isn't violent rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:52 PM
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Yep, the ones issuing threats of violence to their daughters' dates aren't liberal men, so it appears conservative men acknowledge men can be dangerous. They just seem frustrated that women are saying the same thing. The point of man v. bear wasn't that all men are bad. Obviously seeing a neutral to helpful man is much better than encountering a bear in the woods. But we have no way to tell who is going to hurt us, and I'd wager a guess that most conservative AND liberal fathers would tell any d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:45 PM
1

Agreed. Progressive men were more likely to think I was capable of doing things myself. They also thought it was rad I was going for a PhD in a scientific discipline.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:19 PM
1

I'm totally fine with that. I've got my leftist husband for that. Enjoy the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:32 PM
10

Enjoy yet another Republican-led recession because women were mean to you or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:30 PM
3

You support an exception for rape, so you obviously aren't so firm in the conviction that abortion is taking a life. If you were, it would be objectionable no matter how the conception occurred. At least be ideologically consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:20 PM
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A majority of white women. Most women voted for Harris.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:01 PM
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Seriously. All these posts about 4B recently give the impression that men are seriously pressed. Conversely, you don't see women whining that there are men who want to go their own way. You do you, boo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:54 PM
47

Isn't AWALT one of the central tenets of TRP? Generalizations are made about women constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:41 PM
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My ideology is different than yours because I think aborting a fetus in utero prior to consciousness is less objectionable than what happened to say, Gabriel Fernandez. Children growing up unloved, unwanted and neglected with minimal prenatal care will result in increased child abuse and serious societal harms when those children become adults. Many of the current abortion laws do not heave exceptions for rape. It is also extremely difficult to prove rape without a video of the event happening, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:09 PM
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Neither do women who are raped. And if you invented a friend into your house and then they started taking a sledgehammer to the walls, would you ask them to leave or just sit there and hope they wouldn't destroy the whole thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:50 PM
5

I expect to find someone with more or less the same outlook. Hasn't been an issue finding attractive moderate-liberal men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:16 PM
1

I would not settle for someone with opposing political beliefs, no. I'm an epidemiologist so I have no interest in hearing people with no education on the topic tell me how vaccines are evil. My sister is a lesbian so I don't want to worry about bringing someone who is opposed to gay marriage around her and her wife. I terminated a wanted pregnancy at the recommendation of three different MFM specialists after things went south and I don't want someone calling me a baby-killer when my life was a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:02 PM
2

Can you point me to a woman saying that men should go to therapy because they want to have sex? We say men aren't entitled to sex. We also tell you that there are a number of ways to attract a woman's attention. You choose to listen to men who tell you it's over if you're not Chad. I would suggest that's ridiculously unhelpful and self-defeating, but we all make our own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:42 PM
3

As demonstrated in this election, internet personalities have an outsized impact on things that impact the real world, like voting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:38 PM
4

Explain to me what "Your body, my choice" means.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:36 PM
1

The Left is acting like a bunch of children while the Right is saying things like "Fuck your feelings" and then crying when their liberal friends/family don't want to be around them anymore. Give me a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:19 PM
3

Yeah, making vile rape threats while cackling like a hyena will do that to a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:15 PM
1

Agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:13 PM
2

That's 100% a troll
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:00 AM
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Don't sleep with Trump voters is the more effective strategy. Date the Millennial/Gen Z men who didn't vote for a sexual predator. Since there's a fairly large gulf in the political leanings of young single women and young single men, this would have an impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:59 AM
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Men don't like it but my husband has been called adorable a lot (he's shorter with a nice face) and he gets openly hit on more than any other guy I know. One of the few red pill things I agree with is the concept of agreeing and amplifying. Men who get defensive over a compliment will do much worse than those who play along.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:10 PM
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I agree with you. I think inflation/cost of living issues hit everyone hard, people looked at who was in office, and voted to change things. I disagree that Trump will help, but I get that perspective well enough. I think if Democrats quit courting Wall Street there's a chance to earn some of those votes back. I'm more referring to the spite votes or the ones openly celebration restriction on women's rights. Hopefully a fringe minority, but I don't see ever branching the divide there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:25 AM
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That's fair enough. I appreciate the insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:09 AM
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I just took a look, and I'll absolutely concede that that's a misstep in messaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:17 PM
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Black men absolutely shouldn't be getting roped in with everyone else as they broke stronger for Harris than any other male demographic. I think the finger pointing at minorities is gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:14 PM
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Young women already had standards, hence why Trump-supporting young men had to hide their political views to have a chance on dating apps. With the behavior of a certain subset of his supporters following the election, women will only get more selective. The women who broke for Trump are old and already married. I'm fully in support of young women remaining as selective as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:09 PM
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There have been multiple posts here since the election made by men blaming women for not catering to men's issues enough as the reason Trump won. What I don't understand is why Trump supporters are such sore winners. Shouldn't you be happy? You got the guy you wanted. Why do you care that progressives don't like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:54 PM
2

So did Trump, and that didn't seem to bother people much
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:20 PM
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Not off to a great start
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:15 PM
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That's insightful. I appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:23 AM
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I agree with you. I'm asking what he says that appeals to men? I keep hearing he speaks to men's issues, but what is he saying that does that because I haven't heard it, and I can admit I'm coming at things from a biased perspective. I'm not asking this in bad faith- I'm genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:22 AM
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You're kind of proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:15 AM
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I agree with your main point. Biden promised to be a transitional president, and by opting to run for a second term, we lost the chance to vet and select the best candidate for the job. It's very frustrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:13 AM
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I don't disagree with you at all. The Democratic Party has lost touch with its roots. If Democrats want to win, they need to connect with and work for the working class. Republicans do a great job at this, though I'd argue most of their proposed policies are unhelpful to anyone but the most wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:05 AM
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We aren't attacking men. I love a lot of men. I'm fully of the belief that men and women working cooperatively results in the best living conditions for everyone. I care about men's mental health and the unbalanced suicide rate, I care about veterans suffering when they come home, I care that a lot of working class men men are struggling to get food on the table after an unbalanced COVID recovery period. As far as I can tell, proposed Republican policy will do nothing to improve any of those thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 05:58 AM
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I agree with you completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 05:49 AM
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I'm not blaming anyone who voted Harris in this election. It's unhelpful. I see different think pieces blaming all sorts of demographics, and none of them will do anything but sow division. I'm very grateful to the men who supported Harris. I'm also fully on board with trying to connect with people who voted for Trump on the economy or people who didn't vote at all. I oppose women wasting their time trying to appeal to the hearts and minds of men who have been laughing or gloating about women be…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 05:44 AM
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No, I was asking for clarification. Trump won't enhance the lives of men unless they already happen to be extremely rich, so the logic of men voting for him because he speaks to men's issues doesn't connect for me. What issues? The economy will be worse, access to mental health care will not be prioritized as "pick your self up by your bootstraps" is the party's ethos. What do you like about what he is saying? What will he do for men beyond lip service that doesn't amount to anything tangible?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 05:33 AM
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Agreed. You need to give people something to fight for, not focus your messaging on how the opponent is terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:00 AM
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Exactly this. People are being hit hard by inflation. If people voted for Trump because they truly thought he would improve the economy, I don't hold any disdain for them at all. I thoroughly disagree with them, but I don't hold it against them as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:59 AM
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Please explain to me how the Harris campaign actively shit on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:58 AM
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Did you try it in Ireland or elsewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:37 AM
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I mean, doesn't this align with what TRP wants? I see at least a post a week in here with men defending age gaps. And honestly, if I were a liberal gen Z woman, I'd be targeting Millennial men too, especially after this election.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:16 PM
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That's my feeling. I don't know why there's all this discussion about 4B with men simultaneously gloating about the female Trump vote. By all means, conservative men should date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:14 PM
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I'm sure this subreddit will be anything but sympathetic, but I work as a scientist in birth defects surveillance. I worked my ass off earlier this year to secure three five-year federally-funded grants focused on three different conditions for my department, and I received an e-mail this morning acknowledging that any federally funded projects could be in jeopardy. I chose this career because this information is important to have for the people suffering from these conditions and their care pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:04 PM
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I think the women who voted for Trump will continue to act as they were before.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 03:54 PM
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Yep, I agree. The rationale behind both is very similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 03:53 PM
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A lot of the 4B commentary is overly dramatic content created for Tiktok, but the fact remains that Gen Z men are having less sex than any recent generation. A majority of Gen Z men are single. Birth rates are cratering. This election won't help things. A small minority of women having sex with a single man doesn't disprove general trends. Feel free to save and get back to me in four years if Gen Z men have managed to turn things around for themselves, but the hateful rhetoric I'm seeing everywh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:18 PM
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I've got no issue at all with men filtering progressive women like me out
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 03:49 AM
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Conservative frat bros are fucking conservative sorority girls. There's a mismatch in the proportion of college-educated men and college-educated women supporting Harris, and women are rejecting men they otherwise might have considered over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 03:47 AM
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No, the 4B movement is about women removing themselves from oppressive systems and challenging the traditional life trajectory.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 03:40 AM
2

That's fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 03:09 AM
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Women tend not to get remarried after being widowed, whereas it's the opposite for men. Women have learned they can get along fine without romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:53 AM
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I'm a liberal woman and I agree with you. Liberal women don't want anything to do with conservative men-who cares? Presumably conservative men wouldn't want women with liberal values anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:51 AM
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That's why I like it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:35 AM
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I agree with your take. Making sure your kids have college paid for is such a massive leg up it cannot be overstated.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:34 AM
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Because we didn't think the end of Roe v Wade would actually happen last time, and because Gen Z men were a key demographic in Trump's victory (see age x gender) https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:32 AM
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The women who voted for Trump look to be 45-64 years old, married, and have a high school diploma. Young women, college-educated women and single women all broke for Harris. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:28 AM
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Dems fucked themselves when Biden elected to run for a second term. A full primary and this would have been a different ball-game.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:24 AM
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Gen Z are having less sex than any generation before them, and birth rates are off a cliff. Any more restrictions on reproductive care and it stands to reason a lot of women are just going to opt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:20 AM
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You've captured my feelings entirely. Aren't they the "fuck your feelings" group? So why do they care so much that progressives don't like them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:17 AM
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You said "remember when you said the same thing when Roe v Wade was overturned" and I'm saying young women are already rejecting young men, and this will make it worse
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:13 AM
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That's what they said about Roe v Wade prior to 2016
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:12 AM
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Gen Z is having less sex than any generation before them at the same age.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:59 AM
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There are plenty of hot, college-educated liberal men. See "education by gender" in the below exit polls-it was nearly a 50/50 split for white college-educated men. There's no point in settling, especially now. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:36 AM
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NBC just released pretty comprehensive exit polls. White women voting for Trump was driven by non-college educated, 45-64 year old married ladies. Single women, college-educated women, young white women all broke for Harris. So the young men looking for like-minded partners will likely continue to be disappointed. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:34 AM
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They already are. Gen Z is having much less sex than previous generations at the same age. This will make it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:09 AM
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No, I wouldn't fuck with conservatives before, and I won't now. They've been gloating about all the Trump-supporting women all over this subreddit, so it should be happily ever after for them. Assortative mating and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:41 PM
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-30/u-s-billionaires-got-1-trillion-richer-in-trump-s-first-term
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:15 PM
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Alpha chad whose wife can't stand to be near him lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:15 PM
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Trump is a greasy salesman who only cares about himself. If that appeals to people, so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:05 PM
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That wasn't the meaning of my retort. My meaning was that Trump in office is only going to help billionaires, a tiny sub-fraction of the population. The average man is going to get fucked, but that's what they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:04 PM
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Embarrassed for you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:11 PM
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This is my thought. Isn't the talking point that conservative women are hotter? Just avoid progressive women, and you're good
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:07 PM
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Then stick with conservative women. Most of the hemming and hawing from men on this subreddit is about liberal women. Just ignore them and stop trying to sleep with them. I will say: Don't expect conservative women to give one fuck about male loneliness.. If you're not a strong provider, they won't want you either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:58 PM
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Billionaires look out for themselves. Enjoy the recession.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:43 PM
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You're going to be finding out just as much as we are lol. Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:31 PM
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Voting for a narcissistic billionaire thinking he's going to help the common clay seems to be the logic of men here, so good luck to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:11 PM
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For real, own your vote for Jeffrey Epsteins buddy, just quit complaining that college educated women want nothing to do with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:08 PM
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Most billionaires are men, so that's something
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:44 PM
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White women with a college degree broke strongly for Harris. As long as the Trump supporting men quit complaining their college classmates don't want to sleep with them, we're good
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:40 PM
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Unless you're a billionaire, you're a rube who voted against your own interests too. Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:33 PM
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Men can do whatever they want. Presumably, Trump supporting men don't want progressive women, so what's the issue? Find the trad con women of your dreams.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:25 PM
1

Wow that thread is a mess
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:35 PM
1

That's an interesting thought
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:35 PM
1

Love your energy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:34 PM
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I agree with your take. Dem messaging was vague at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:03 PM
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I've seen the opposite IRL. My mom's friend was a single mom and she married a tall surgeon at 39. They're still together decades later. If you're attractive enough, the sky's the limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:02 PM
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Maybe note. Life seemed pretty miserable and short. Avg life expectancy was 20-33..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:00 PM
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I have some Trump voters whining on my feed about being more accepting of different beliefs without anyone even saying anything negative to them. Own your vote ffs. It's less annoying than the alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:59 PM
1

Gross
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:53 PM
1

What? Who doesn't support trans people? The failure was Biden attempting a run for a second term and not hammering messaging on the economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:50 PM
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Democrats are good at one thing and that's completely fucking up messaging. Ah well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:49 PM
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Gen Z is having less sex than any other living generation before them did at the same point. This will not help things, but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:47 PM
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Who cares about driving you away? it's over. You got your daddy Trump in office. Hope all of your dreams come true. Just quit whining about male loneliness because any shred of sympathy that would have garnered is completely gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:41 PM
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I don't fuck with Trump supporters. Other women can do what they want, but I wouldn't imagine a conservative man would want a liberal woman anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:34 PM
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Women being allowed to choose who they sleep with and having access to reproductive healthcare isn't hate or lies. Men should own their beliefs and date the tradcon women they apparently want. I just don't want to hear any more whining about male loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:29 PM
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Just don't come complaining to us that you're lonely. If they do away with birth control and abortion, women will be even less likely to have sex with young men than they already are. Good riddance. Enjoy your new authoritarian daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:01 PM
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They think the difference in values won't impact them directly, until it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:42 PM
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Men say they don't like high maintenance girls or girls who wear make up all the time, but women have eyes and can see who gets the most attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:09 PM
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The way you hold women accountable for playing hard to get is by not playing their game.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:53 PM
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No. I'm shocked they even got to sex after the interview portion of the date, but if a man leaves me hanging in that respect, there would be no second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:58 PM
1

Ah, still no. But that might be a me problem, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:10 AM
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No, not at all. If he cheats, I leave. Not worth my energy to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:52 AM
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I'll respond to your two examples at least: Don't waste your time on women who play hard to get. You'll likely drive more of her interest by not following her around and doing your own thing than by playing her games. Life isn't "The Notebook." As a rule (and maybe people will disagree with this), don't send sexual texts before the first sexual encounter. Once you have hooked up, then it'll likely be better received.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:47 AM
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The lone wolf, easily. I'm an introvert; no social obligations outside of family sounds wonderful. I would probably try to convince him on travel though. FWIW my answer would be the same if the salary was $120K and height was 5'11 on the second guy as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 01:57 PM
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Good question
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 01:15 PM
1

Framing is at an IQ test for men is odd, as male intelligence score in early adulthood has a high positive correlation with likelihood to get married, and high intelligence in males is also a good predictor of continued marriage. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886917305780 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886917305780
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:28 AM
1

I mean you can, but I don't think it'll go well for you. I'd next a guy immediately for this, and this is coming from someone with a low n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:46 PM
1

I really liked school and I really enjoy my job. I also like having my own money.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:44 PM
1

Hell no. I went on one date with a finance bro and I couldn't wait for it to end. I'll take the STEM nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:42 PM
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Women would be less negative about men approaching them had they not been subjected to harassment (or full on abuse) for saying no. If you approach, shoot your shot, and take the answer with grace, then you're fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:01 PM
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Social media makes it incredibly easy to vet people before meeting them. Without it, you can't really do that as thoroughly. That said, I think it's damaging for like 75% of the people using it and wouldn't fault anyone for opting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:28 AM
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I agree with you. I know a lot of men who have stuck their neck out when they didn't need to, and I appreciate them all for it. That said, I also understand the perspective of a person not wanting to risk his own safety for someone he doesn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 05:00 PM
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I agree with this take. I don't know if we're allowed to call stories out for being creative writing exercises, but..
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:59 PM
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If you read the comments here, women are looking out for other women since men don't want to.. Same when I was pregnant; women would jump out of their seats to give me space on public transit, and I would never sit ever if there was an elderly, disabled, or pregnant person who could sit there instead. Men can do what they want, but I would never mess around with one that only looks put for himself. When my husband and I were just in a mutual group of friends, I watched him make space for those m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:40 PM
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Most men are bigger and stronger than most women, and creepy men respect other men more than they do women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:15 PM
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it usually means the workload reduces when he moves out. Two adults should make for a lighter load, especially when you're in the trenches of early parenthood. If it makes for a heavier one, you've got a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:26 PM
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I know/knew only two (most of my circle is married). Both have since remarried and had additional children. Both men seem to be very decent people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:22 PM
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I would not be dating a man who spent money on webstreamers, but assuming he concealed that fact, I would absolutely break up with a man who was generous and thoughtful previously and isn't now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:51 PM
1

Get an Audible subscription if you can apply it to that. I've made it through so many books I've been putting off because I can listen while doing other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:25 AM
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IRB just means Institutional Review Board. Major institutions have them to make sure research is ethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:46 PM
4

It's bizarre you'd talk about him as an LVM when he's literally just a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:33 PM
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Do you think the men in those countries would be on board with this plan?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:39 PM
1

Here's another example. I obtained a PhD, work in my field, married a man who didn't want me to be a submissive doormat, and I had three kids with him because he demonstrated how helpful he was with our first. My children's pediatricians (husband and wife) have four kids together. My next door neighbors are a nurse practitioner and a lawyer and have three kids together. My sister's friend was one of ten kids, and both parents worked as doctors. It is possible to have it all, if that's what you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:31 PM
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Exactly. If the life was as rewarding and appealing as those espousing it claim, you wouldn't need to convince women. As it is, it's a bad deal, and women are wise to reject it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:19 PM
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Elections post Dobbs have broken for Democrats well beyond what's expected based on polling and conventional trends. Abortion is an albatross for Republicans, and I expect it will continue to be this November.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:05 AM
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If there's a sound more maddening than a leaf-blower, I haven't found it yet. The one down-side of Fall.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:51 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886907002814 In this study, only 23% of men would accept a dating relationship where the woman was taller (vs. 4% of women). Women certainly have a stronger height preference than men, but the majority of men appear to have one as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:15 PM
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Ok, then my apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:45 PM
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Are you really trying to pretend men don't use pretty women as accessories to make them look better? Good grief.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:29 PM
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Many men absolutely have the capacity to cheat; average men just lack the opportunity. Beyonce, Elizabeth Hurley, Shakira, Natalie Portman, Sienna Miller have all been cheated on. Literally some of the most beautiful women on the planet and it wasn't enough to keep their men faithful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:22 PM
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Because beauty is fleeting. Why commit to a man at all if that's what he values above all else?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:55 PM
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Right. They complain that women's standards are too high nowadays. Considering how single mothers are regarded, women's standards aren't high enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:50 PM
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We're just going off of what men here tell us, which is: Education doesn't matter, our careers don't matter, our hobbies are useless and boring, women are valued for being attractive and submissive. That's not love at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:48 PM
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I'm also married to a 5'7 man and he gets hit on regularly. I'm also thin and traditionally attractive. Men here would rather play the victim than take any sort of accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:35 PM
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Men absolutely care if a woman is taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:33 PM
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Plenty of short men and bald men get laid. Calling either a death sentence is insanely dramatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 12:47 PM
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You can't say men judge more on acquired characteristics and then just exclude youth. Youth is arguably the most prized characteristic in women, and it is something you have until you don't, through no control of your own. Additionally, men have a number of paths to initially attracting a partner-charisma, looks, money, status, sense of humor. Women have one, and it's appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 12:35 PM
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I am one of them, sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 12:24 AM
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I'm 5'7 and married to a guy who is 5'7. He has been approached and hit on by the opposite (and same) sex more than I have, and I'm not bad looking. In my lived experience, short guys with nice faces clean up with women. I'm not discounting that shorter height is generally detrimental, but Dave Franco, James McAvoy, Jeremy Allen White, Cillian Murphy are all short and wildly attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:19 PM
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My libido dipped for about a year postpartum. It came back when I was getting regular sleep and not breastfeeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:22 AM
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I'm sorry to hear about what happened to you and your sister. Your point about remarriage is a great one. The risk of child abuse skyrockets when a non-related adult is in the home. Single parents should be vetting potential partners more aggressively than any other group.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:56 PM
2

Polling predicted a red wave in 2022. Let's see where we are on November 6th.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:41 PM
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Well I'm with you there at least
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 01:29 AM
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OK, because of Trump I lost one of my best employees because her husband (with a PhD in engineering) didn't get his work visa renewed due to new Trump-era immigration restrictions. So we lost a woman with a Master's in Biostatistics and a man with a PhD in engineering to China because Trump wanted to "Make America Great Again" by apparently forcing out all of the international talent who were educated in the United States. That's not even touching how horribly he bungled the COVID response. He w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:27 PM
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The ability to have your own bank account and credit cards. Are you being willfully obtuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:09 PM
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Economic independence
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:54 PM
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Why should anyone lower their standards? If you're picking a potential life partner, you should maintain very high standards. Many women will happily remain single rather than enter a relationship with man they aren't attracted to, and that's for the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:40 PM
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Why should anyone lower their standards? If you're picking a potential life partner, you should maintain very high standards. Women aren't obligated to date men. Many women will happily remain single rather than enter a relationship with man they aren't attracted to, and that's for the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:29 PM
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Why should anyone lower their standards? If you're picking a potential life partner, you should maintain very high standards. Women aren't obligated to date men. Many women will happily remain single rather than enter a relationship with man they aren't attracted to, and that's for the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:29 PM
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Because you aren't presenting cogent points to debate..
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 10:08 PM
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I think you are holding yourself back from potential happiness by reveling in anger and hyperbole.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 08:06 PM
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I don't think that's abusive at all. I think people object to dating a known partier then asking her to stop. Kind of like Jonah Hill asking his surfer girlfriend to stop posting pictures of herself in bathing suits when that's her entire brand.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 08:00 PM
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I'd contend that if that's important to him, he'd live a happier life if he found a woman with similar views on pornography.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 07:57 PM
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I'd contend that making friends/knowing how to get along with colleagues and knowing how to flirt are two different skill sets, but all fall under the scope of "social skills."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 07:38 PM
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That could be the case, certainly
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 04:42 PM
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Are you a sociologist? Sounds like interesting work
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 04:32 PM
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I've expressed interest in men twice in my life. The first said yes and we went on a date but the chemistry wasn't there. The second said no because he had a girlfriend (I was unaware at the time as I had just met him), and many years later we're married. So for me you could call it 50% or 100%, depending on your criteria. I think the men attractive enough to be hit on outright will likely already be partnered up, which could lower the success rate a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 04:18 PM
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He reaped what he sowed; I'm just sorry you got caught in the fall out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 04:12 PM
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What is your definition of a sociopath? A disregard for the rights and feelings of others? Women weren't even allowed to vote until the 20th century, and marital rape was legal through the 1990s (and still is in many parts of the world). Conservative men are now doing everything in their power to strip rights back from women and encourage a return to traditionalism. Men are angry that women aren't choosing not to pair up with angry misogynists instead of leaving women alone. You tell me which se…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 02:44 PM
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Attractive women have more intelligent partners regardless of their own intelligence, but that effect is even more pronounced among intelligent women. And we evidently do need a study, since men here are claiming "women aren't good at measuring the intelligence of men."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 02:35 PM
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Of course; many women have no issue with porn. I'm only referring to those that do, and arguing that it's not controlling/a violation of bodily autonomy to refuse to date a man who consumes pornography.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 02:30 PM
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Comments like these really underscore how little men think of women. Research suggests the opposite-attractive women select for intelligence while attractive men do not. "Specifically, we predicted that more physically attractive women would have more intelligent husbands, but that a man’s physical attractiveness would not predict his wife’s intelligence. The results of correlation and regression analyses were consistent with these predictions, although the effect sizes were small. Additionally,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:14 PM
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We're not controlling it. We're just not going to date you if you use porn for sexual gratification. People are allowed to set whatever boundaries they want. I'm not violating your rights by not dating you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:07 PM
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My friend's dad is obsessed with his wife (my friend's mom) and he is a corporate lawyer making bank. As an example of said devotion, he prefers modern houses, but after the (five) kids moved out he bought them a beautiful house built in the 1800s and then spent the money to renovate up to his standards. Whenever they're at a party they're dancing and smiling at each other. It's cute. At an even more ridiculous-wealth level, Mark Zuckerberg seems pretty enamored of his wife. Men like Trump and M…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 12:55 PM
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I'm an atheist who thinks porn is a net negative for society. Men here decry hedonism, but what is pornography use aside from empty sexual gratification by way of an industry known for abuse and exploitation?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 12:24 PM
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I married a guy I met when we were both 19 and in college. I promise you I wasn't after him for his "bounty." My mom earned more than my dad for most of their working lives and they're still happily married 40 years later. He is one of the smartest and hardest-working people I know. It must be sad to go through life with such a cynical viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 12:43 AM
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I'll be sure to add "hardworking and intelligent" to the list of traits that are unacceptable for women to prioritize, according to the men of PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 09:28 PM
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Fr Halloween is the best. Quit rushing to the next season
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 05:30 PM
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The engineers at my college were all bros who cleaned up with women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 05:07 PM
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Intelligence and work ethic
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 04:46 PM
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Not at all. Switching jobs is much easier than getting out of a marriage when you're dependent on another person for your survival. If traditional marriage was as wonderful as it was claimed to be, women wouldn't have collectively rejected it outright.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 10:38 AM
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Do you think the temperance movement came about with such vigor just to give women something to do? Men were spending their wages on alcohol then going home and beating their wives in large enough numbers that complete prohibition gained nationwide support.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 01:35 AM
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Yep. Compare the numbers on the Y axis in Figures 2 and 3. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db464.htm Middle-aged men are just killing themselves. In an ideal world, they would be seeking help instead of checking out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 07:55 PM
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Agree with this take. A bunch of angry young men with nothing to lose usually ends badly for everyone. The solution to this problem is the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:19 PM
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In fairness, I would select out any man who had "virgin, no tattoos" as his criteria anyway. Sounds like he's looking for a religious fundamentalist which is his choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 04:11 PM
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If college was not valuable, you wouldn't see every single politician, regardless of their affiliation, sending their kids. Republicans may lament the evils of higher ed, but they all attended, and they're all sending their kids as well. Watch what they do, not what they say. Trades can pay well, but many will break your body well before retirement age. My dad was a landscaper until he was 40, and fortunately he was able to shift into a government job once his back got too bad to deal with physi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:59 PM
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Feminism's goal is not to avoid men (barring fringe elements), so that's not an apt comparison at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:46 AM
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MGTOW was a subreddit of posts almost exclusively about women. They did not, in fact, go their own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:40 AM
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"AWALT" is an underpinning of RP philosophy. So is the concept of "The Wall." Aren't we on a subreddit dedicated to discussing the merits of said ideas? Men in the manospgere seem very comfortable generalizing and dehumanizing women yet seem to get very upset at the same being done to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:07 PM
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Then why do we keep hearing about the male loneliness epidemic? They're not choosing to remain single.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:05 PM
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Women don't talk that way, so you'd just have to worry about weird guys making comments like that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:40 PM
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You're acting like a large contingent of men aren't spending their free time on the internet calling women "expired," "past their prime," saying they've "hit the walli" if they're past the age of 25/30. The internet has provided insight into how men talk about women like nothing else before, and the number of women choosing to remain single is higher than ever before. It's not coincidental.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:38 PM
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You're preaching to the choir here
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 04:16 PM
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If you have safety without attraction, you have a friendship. If you have passion without safety, you have a FWB/situationship. It seems only TRP espouses the belief that men are black and white dichotomous beings, sorted forever into an alpha or beta designation. Life is more complicated than that, and most men have a combination of traits. Would a man want to marry a woman that he felt no passion for, or a woman who was so unstable she'd take off or cheat on him? No, and it's not unreasonable …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:47 PM
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I'd contend you need both for a successful, long-lasting relationship, and that those traits aren't mutually exclusive. I wouldn't date someone who didn't make me feel safe, but I also wouldn't date someone I wasn't viscerally attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:13 PM
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Speaking for the US here, but transferrable skills, GI Bill, VA loans, general honor/respect from the population at large (excepting Vietnam vets in the 60s/early 70s), housing allowances while serving, pension after retiring, military/veteran discounts.. If you can avoid getting PTSD, it's a pretty good gig
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 01:58 PM
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I'm not a fan of sex work in general. It's akin to joining the military at 18 in that you can be traumatized for the rest of your life because of the decisions you made at a tender age. Unlike the military, there are virtually no benefits to doing sex work aside from money, and only a small minority make enough money to set themselves up afterward. Other than that, you're almost certainly tanking your mental health and possibly your physical health, rendering yourself undateable to a sizeable ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:29 PM
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I get that. I'd be hesitant to approach without some level of pre-existing familiarity, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 04:10 PM
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I don't like turning people down, but I'm not going to begrudge a guy for shooting his shot if he's nice about it. The ones who start hurling invectives when you say "Thanks, but I'm not interested" sour the prospect of being approached a bit, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:23 PM
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Absolutely. Hiking is a great hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:55 AM
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Yogurt or cheese slices with fruit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:53 PM
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To even try something new requires a level of confidence in oneself. It'd be easy to talk yourself out of literally anything with that mindset-I shouldn't try that hobby because I won't be good at it. I shouldn't go to that party because everyone will hate me. I shouldn't try for that job because they'd never want me. You don't know any of that until you try. I will say-If you keep trying the same things and failing, you should try altering your strategy before trying again, if it's something th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:51 PM
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77% of American men are overweight or obese (see reference below). Stimulating hobby would be something that results in betterment of body, mind or spirit. https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:44 PM
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Interesting study out of Poland relevant to your comment: "Here we document a striking disparity in the impact of children on the life span of mothers and fathers in a Polish rural population. We show for the first time that number of daughters was positively related to a longer life span of their fathers, increasing their longevity on average by 74 weeks per daughter born, while number of sons did not have a significant effect on paternal longevity. In contrast, in women, the number of daughter…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:23 PM
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Disagree. If you're charming and can hold frame, the world is your oyster. Being able to consistently convince other people to like you is maybe the most powerful characteristic a person can have in all elements of life. And women are absolutely attracted to that. That said, it's probably easier to diet/exercise/work on styling than it is to develop that trait, if it's not innate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:13 PM
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I think my interpretation of that phrase and yours are a bit different. I'm not saying that a person shouldn't do what they can to set themselves up for success. For your first bike trip, you presumably trained, mapped out your route, planned for emergency situations, and you still felt mentally like you might not make it. But you did it anyway. You could have just taken the easy path and skipped the trip, but you didn't. That's what I mean by fake it until you make it. Prepare for success the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:18 PM
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My point was that throwing in the towel because you haven't had success previously isn't a great strategy. I fully believe a lot of great things don't come easily, and I don't believe there's any benefit at all to counting yourself out. If you don't feel confident yet, pretend that you are until you truly feel that way. What's the harm in that? I also agree with you that obesity is not going to be solved by "powering through." On an individual level, that may work for some people, but if it were…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:12 PM
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What does your social life look like? Do any of your hobbies involve interacting with women? Do you volunteer at all? The short, romantically successful men I know have all met partners in person (usually through friend groups) rather than online. That said, I fully concede that being below average in height/looks put you at a disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 02:12 PM
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It sounds reductive, but fake it til you make it. I fully acknowledge I didn't have the romantic struggles an introverted man would have, but I do work in a difficult profession where I had a heavy dose of impostor syndrome starting out, despite a PhD and positive comments about my work. I feigned confidence until I had enough experience to have it naturally. The alternative would have been switching to a less demanding field where I didn't need to struggle to succeed. For men struggling romanti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:57 PM
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Confidence is generally attractive to women. A lot of morally bankrupt people are unfortunately confident and charismatic. A woman will also be attracted to a confident, charismatic man who is morally good. To your last point, yes, you should focus on improving yourself for your own sake. If you want to improve your success with women, put yourself in situations where you have to talk to a lot of people to improve your confidence and charisma, and go to the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:47 PM
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I agree with this take. It's not that she never cared about you; it's that she checked out long ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:06 PM
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Buddy, I'm not the one trying to control what other people do in public. Does your wife know you make these weird comments about modesty on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:31 PM
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Men are filming young girls for their own sexual gratification in that woman's example. In your example, women filming themselves happen to catch men gawking at them, again, for their for sexual gratification. This isn't a reverse of your situation at all. It's men not being able to mind their own business and leave women (or girls) alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:00 PM
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Men wear short shorts and no shirt while working out all the time and no one cares. Seems like you're a bit bent out of shape over nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 05:52 PM
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You brought up a nonsense, niche example. I have no patience or tolerance for men who try to comment on what is and isn't appropriate dress. Men frequently take their shirts off to exercise and somehow it's not an issue for women trying to exercise at the same time. If you want to live in a country where women are forced to dress modestly enough for your standards so that men aren't tempted to gawk, you are free to do so. You want us to respect men as leaders and arbiters of what's appropriate w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 05:19 PM
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I disagree with your entire premise. There's very little that I would consider "violating modesty." If you can't handle women in tight work out clothes, stay out of the gym. And off the beach apparently, since I guess bikinis would be too immodest for your sensibilities too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 05:11 PM
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Women are a lot more discreet, but sure, we appreciate the male form just fine. But good on you for the cycling-it's a good hobby aside from the psychotic drivers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:31 PM
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Jfc
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:11 PM
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Seems neutral. She's pretty popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:50 PM
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Thai
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:45 PM
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Assuming this is real, he's justified in breaking up. It's one thing to think it; it's another to say it publicly to another person on your anniversary. That's all he'll think about moving forward when they have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:19 PM
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A bunch of men publicly against it are absolutely consuming it. Hypocrisy is a tale as old as time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:42 PM
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It will only tank your credit score if you are delinquent on payments.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:12 PM
3

It means you include age of the mother as a variable in the model, which controls for its impact on the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:45 PM
3

It's very location dependent, but in my example it's a MCOL area where firefighters don't typically crack six figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:36 PM
1

I agree with this advice. Confidence is sexy, whining and self-pity are not. I'd contend nearly everyone knows a short guy who cleans up, and I guarantee you that guy does not wallow in self-pity about his height at all, at least outwardly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:57 AM
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There is absolutely a certain type of man who would never be comfortable with his wife/partner earning more than him. Namely, the man who thinks the primary thing he has to offer in a partnership is his ability to provide. That said, I know quite a few couples where the woman earns more than the man. In every case, the man is very confident in himself, and usually works in a high prestige/interesting profession (firefighter, teacher, scientist) even if it's not a high-paying one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:59 AM
2

Enjoy your bevy of young women!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:03 PM
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Go get em, tiger.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:44 PM
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Victoria's Secret lost a ton of money because women opted to buy from women-focused brands instead of ones that catered to the male gaze. They then changed their marketing strategy to make more money, which is fundamentally the driver of most behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:50 PM
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That's just propaganda from the right. Only a knucklehead would look at someone like Trump and see a strong, masculine role model. He is relentlessly insecure and petty and wildly out of shape. He's a draft-dodging grifter and young men lap it up. It's sad, honestly. McCain and Romney are both strong men who led the lives conservatives extol, but so are Obama/Walz. The right does not have a monopoly on masculinity; in fact, it's strayed further from traditional masculinity than ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:24 PM
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Agreed. I'd contend that making the gym your entire personality isn't really that appealing to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:36 PM
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I'm a progressive liberal and agree with you fully. It's OK to prioritize to shared values.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:36 PM
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I promise you I've never slept with a conservative. I've dated four men and they've ranged from moderate Democrat to full on leftist. Conservative values are a non-starter, and I'm far from alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:33 PM
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I married a liberal man who makes six figures and likes to exercise. Last Fall, the person giving him his flu shot told him unprompted that he had "zaddy deltoids." Before him I dated a personal trainer who is now a nurse practitioner and spent an hour or two at the gym every day on his own. Also liberal. I'd compromise on physical fitness before political views, but if you go to college, it's not difficult to find men who have both.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:15 PM
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Women and children first only happens when men are forced to do so, like during the sinking of the Titanic. Men are much more likely to survive maritime disasters than women are. https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.1207156109
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:14 AM
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My husband works with a woman whose husband stays home. She makes a lot of money working in pharmaceuticals, and he's great with the kids and running the house. She looks at him with a lot of admiration and respect. My aunt got married in her early 20s. A year after the wedding, my uncle was diagnosed with leukemia and looked like he was about to die. He made it out, but he couldn't go back to his job as an electrician after what the treatments did to his body. She was the only one who worked, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:09 PM
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And thanks to the garbage finale, now no one talks about the show at all lol. I agree you with though-the first few seasons were really amazing television.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 12:42 AM
1

If men keep themselves or get themselves in shape, they will have options for a long time. The problem is, most men (and women) do not do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:28 PM
1

20% of married couples in the US met at work. So don't do it unless you're reasonably sure he/ she is it for you is the better advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:34 PM
1

Nee-chuh
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:34 AM
1

Your friend should read Demon Copperhead if she hasn't already
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:33 AM
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I have three kids. It's a ton of work, and historically, 99% of that work fell on the shoulders of women. I'll give kudos to Millennial fathers for contributing more effort to parenting than any generation before them, but women will still disproportionately have their careers and health impacted by choosing to become mothers. I developed what seems to be a permanent allergiy to peanuts, and I developed high blood pressure that took over a year to resolve. I also needed to reduce my hours at wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:47 PM
2

Ref basketball
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:31 PM
1

Genetic, though you can lift weights to shift body composition too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 03:53 PM
4

Coffee dates are the best. The last thing I want is a full restaurant experience when I know in the first four minutes that it's not going to work out. Save those for when you know there's chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 03:52 PM
2

"Renting out your holes" is a horrible job. As a man, imagine needing to fuck gay men or women you found unattractive, many of whom are stronger than you and could force you to do things you didn't agree to. Not to mention if anyone else finds out about your job, you'll be blackballed from a whole host of other professions, and you'll be virtually undesirable to a whole swath of the people you are actually attracted to. There are also serial killers who will specifically target people working in…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 03:06 PM
2

I keep weights and yoga mats on shelves in my bedroom. It wouldn't be unattractive to me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 02:59 PM
1

I'm as feminist as they come and I promise I'm not here trying to lock anyone in a cage, unless they're into that sort of thing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:31 AM
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Republicans are bad for the economy, openly lied to get us into a one trillion dollar boondoggle in the middle east, bungled the management of a once in a century pandemic, and they're regressive on social issues. I wouldn't fuck with anyone who described himself as moderate, much less conservative. And men thinking they're smarter than us telling us we've been "brainwashed" is annoying asf. The new conservative talking point is that all the hot girls vote conservative, so just stick with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:39 PM
1

The ones complaining about gold diggers never have any money.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:44 PM
1

If it smells good, sign me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:40 PM
1

That guy fully deserves to get dunked on...jfc
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:31 AM
1

All of the smartest men I know married women they met in the United States, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:41 PM
1

The short men in my friend group do/did better than anyone else. Charisma and being non-judgmental goes a long way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 05:37 PM
1

Nah, sunscreen is the holy grail of skincare.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:37 AM
1

It's economic liberation
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 03:27 AM
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Except for that whole creating and nurturing life thing, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:24 AM
1

Men aren't entitled to women's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 11:38 PM
3

No, because men benefit from a functioning society too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 11:36 PM
1

Ignore the comments, take the help
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 05:43 PM
1

Women are much more likely to slum it looks-wise than a man is
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:08 AM
1

This election is so depressing fr
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:26 AM
1

"You know I'd ride for you Charli" has been playing over and over in my head lol. What a banger
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:35 PM
1

No thank you. My blood pressure is high enough on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:33 PM
2

Women tend to be attracted to men who are funny, charismatic and interesting. Women do not like spineless "simps" who claim to be nice guys then whine about the friendzone. Hope that female insight helps, less logical brain notwithstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:29 PM
1

To make matters worse, he apparently bet 500K on the Oilers lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:43 AM
1

That's what I'm talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:40 AM
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Sports are a great indicator on both ends of the spectrum. If he throws his remote through the TV because he can't handle his emotions during a game, run away. If he makes fun of people who like to watch sports and calls it sportsball, run away., If he's steadfastly loyal to a team no matter how terrible they are year after year, I've found that to be a green flag, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:27 AM
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Low effort today :(
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 07:27 PM
1

At the end of the day, a man will know that he had to settle for a machine that lacks consciousness. Men want to be desired as much as women do, and most men want to get married (70% of single 18-34 year old men, in a recent survey). I don't see this fixing dynamics at all; if anything, it might cement the bitterness and anger further.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 07:26 PM
1

Darn, now I'm curious
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:49 AM
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The only "casual sex" I've ever had was when I hooked up with a friend and he told me he wanted to keep things casual the morning afterwards. I told him I didn't do casual and we didn't really talk for the next six months. We're married now. Otherwise it only happened in the context of a committed relationship. For me, there is next to no benefit in having casual sex. A man in a relationship will presumably like his partner enough to care about her gratification, and there's no risk of getting g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:45 AM
1

Her ability to get pregnant doesn't fall off a cliff until 40 (5% chance per month at 40 vs 25% in 20s and 20% in 30s).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:38 PM
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Nah, the drop off a cliff is at 40. There's a gradual increase in risks starting in your thirties though, certainly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:48 PM
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If you're in shape, that puts you ahead of literally 70% of adult men (and yes, I know the same goes for women as well). Congrats on the early retirement. Living the dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:42 PM
12

This is certainly a take lol. Are you American? What busywork jobs in 1848 are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:30 PM
17

Sour grapes from lonely men. Romantically successful men don't spend their time bullying women online.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:27 PM
1

Men are generally taller than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:55 PM
1

Agree
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:51 PM
1

5'10 and 5'4 and I'm 5'7. My husband's parents are 5'10 and 5'2 and he's 5'7 as well. Weirdly our kids are all in the 90+ percentile for height (though the oldest one is only five).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:48 PM
1

I'm the same height as my husband (both 5'7)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:47 PM
1

Gen Z men more conservative than Boomer men, wowza. Conservative ideology was a non-starter for me as a Millennial. I feel for my progressive Gen Z girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:05 PM
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I have no objection to this at all, and I'd go further to state you're not the type of person women on PPD is talking about when they caution age gaps. I have friends in mid-late thirties and they'd all be happy to date someone their own age, but those women are almost all paired off already. It's the men in their 30s and 40s who say they won't date above 25 because women are "expired" past that point who are the red flag. These men will universally be bad news for any woman to date, young or ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:51 PM
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Takes accountability for his actions, works hard, stands up for himself and the people he loves, will go out of his way to help more vulnerable people. You won't see them posting on AITA asking for support for not giving up their seat to a visibly pregnant woman or an elderly person or someone with a disability, as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:26 PM
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The values listed here are requisite to being a good man, not an attractive one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:21 PM
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You don't need to get married if you don't see any benefit to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:16 AM
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Probably not, no. I think most people in the west want one or two kids, if they want any at all. It's a lot of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:45 PM
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Lol I don't disagree there, but both sides were plenty dramatic for that particular exercise
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:32 PM
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I don't necessarily disagree there. Though I think trauma dumping too soon from either gender is usually a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:27 PM
3

Seems normal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:21 PM
5

My husband grew up in a abusive household and he wouldn't tell me much of anything for the first few years we were together. Slowly, he's revealed more of his deeper emotions. It hasn't made me want to leave him at all-it just makes me want to hug him and go back in time and comfort little him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:20 PM
2

That's infatuation based on a fantasy, not love
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:07 PM
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I think men who rely on dating apps are going to strike out more often than not. I think if men regularly socialize in mixed gender groups, and take care of their hygiene and general appearance, they're likely to find someone they hit it off with. Easier said than done, but that's what I've observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:06 PM
3

Write a draft out and save it without sending it. It's cathartic without causing any potential consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:04 PM
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Be bullied. I'd feel I'd failed as a parent if he was intentionally making other kids miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:24 PM
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Weird comment. Are you OK?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:08 PM
1

Yep, agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:52 PM
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The apps suck if you're a guy, 100%. I don't think you'll find many women disputing that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:51 PM
2

That's pretty dope
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:56 PM
6

You could also look back to WW2 when millions of women did traditionally male work in shipyards and factories to support the war effort. Once men came back, women got kicked out of those positions, but it's not as though they were incapable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:50 PM
4

I'm married, but thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:56 PM
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Lol this is so dramatic
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:34 PM
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Women tend to build solid social circles. I only know two older single women (my aunt and my husband's aunt) and I'm not exaggerating to say that if either of them needed to stay with us indefinitely, they'd be welcome to. They're both amazing people. You don't need a romantic relationship to be taken care of when you're older.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:28 PM
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The "women's options are shrinking" was written as though it was a bad thing/threat. I'm arguing that it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:17 PM
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Fully disagree. I don't think anyone should get married to someone or have kids with someone until they've lived with them for at least a year. If you believe marriage is a lifelong commitment (which I do), you should be damn sure of what you're signing up for. To your point about kids, I fully agree that no one should have kids until they're married. And you should absolutely never agree to become a SAHM if you're not married, never ever ever. Even if you're married, it's a dicey proposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:11 PM
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There's a lot of convincing evidence that spicy food is pretty good for you at least
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:10 PM
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Yep, I won't deny that. I just disagree that it's over for you if you don't happen to match those characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:40 AM
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Most women aren't posting thirst traps. The ones who are are getting external validation and/or money, and they usually play into the fantasy rather than complain about it. Western women complain about men freaking out about crop tops or shorts or leggings or showing shoulders or whatever "immodest" clothing is deemed inappropriate. We wear those because it's hot outside or because it's comfortable to work out in, not because we're asking to be sexualized.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:08 AM
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I find a small minority of men attractive, but it's not always the same men my friends find attractive, and vice versa. That said, if you're tall and muscular, you'll fall into that minority for a greater proportion of women, certainly. But it doesn't mean only 10-20% of men are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:48 AM
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Sounds good to me tbh. Better to continue to be single than be in a relationship with someone you don't like and who you aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:26 AM
1

No
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:52 AM
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Not only are they seen as a burden, but a very popular opinion is that people don't even want to see children in public spaces. Modern American culture is actively anti-child unless you're in a conservative religious community.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:35 AM
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If you're OK staying on an individual contributor track, then social skills aren't required
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:09 PM
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Counterpoint: I don't share your values, your values aren't the norm in western nations, you have no right to impose them on me. If how women dress at the gym makes you uncomfortable, find a majority male gym or work out at home. There are plenty of countries that value modesty. Move to one of them if seeing women's skin bothers you so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:40 PM
1

Exciting milestone- congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 02:22 AM
1

Ethical non-monogamy, unless you get off on the deceit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:28 AM
1

That's pretty funny though
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:27 AM
4

Bro what
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:25 AM
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She'll likely flirt again. Looks like she wants external validation without the guilt of another affair. Your boundaries are reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:56 PM
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Nurturing an unrequited crush can be very painful, so I'd withdraw for that reason alone. Commenting as a married woman with a husband who has been hit on by several coworkers, I don't care if someone has a crush on him. He comes home and tells me about it if they say something forward. And if his commitment to me is so tenuous that he'd cheat, then I'm better off without him. Life is too short to worry about mate guarding.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:50 PM
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I'm married and I'm honestly fine with this. If my husband's commitment to me is so tenuous that it can be swayed by a coworker with a crush, she can have him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:45 PM
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Depends on the sorority but overall, a few do, but most don't. A lot have serious boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:36 PM
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This is bleak
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:32 PM
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Too hot outside. Other than that, fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:22 PM
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I'd wager more than 50% of men would act on that offer; rationale is higher libido/higher novelty seeking than women. For women, I'd say maybe 25-35%? 13% of women admitted to marital infidelity in a more recent survey, so doubling that seems like a safe estimate. Anecdotally, I know of three married women who have hit on just one of my single male friends, so there's definitely a strong contingent looking for novelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:10 PM
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Ravers are famously non-judgmental. Why do you care what women are doing at festivals you aren't attending?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:40 PM
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I think younger women are getting cosmetic treatments/procedures typically reserved for 40+ year olds which is prematurely making them look older than they are :( Skincare regimens seem good though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:32 PM
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I don't really see this in reality as much as it's touted online? The women who want to be in relationships seem to find them, and the women who want to be single stay single. My cousin is 30 and ended a five year relationship a year ago. She did her own thing for maybe six months, and now she's dating a beautiful firefighter the same age as her who seems crazy about her. Most of my single male friends (mid thirties) set their range on the apps to 25-40 or so, but I don't think they particularly…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:29 PM
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Alright, I'll concede on this one
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 11:00 PM
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That was a tough balance for me. I stuck to cardio and calorie deficits to get to my target weight range, then moved to weights when I switched to maintenance calories. Your strategy would obviously work too; it just was more difficult for me mentally. Whatever gets you in a deficit I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:09 PM
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Lifting heavy stuff makes you hungry
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:03 PM
2

Come back with stories please. Kidding. I sincerely hope you meet someone great.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 07:58 PM
4

It worked well enough for me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 07:52 PM
1

I agree with you there
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:02 PM
2

You have to eat multiple times a day, every day, until you die. If you marry someone who will take care of that for you and do it well, that seems pretty good to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:49 PM
2

Pretty much everyone loves Shannon Hogan (NY Islanders commentator). A bright spot for a perennially disappointing team.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:47 PM
12

There is some overlap-it emphasizes developing your own interests/life, setting boundaries, not being a doormat. There's no focus on attracting the opposite sex, though. It's not an especially earth-shattering book, but some people need it spelled out that letting people walk over you isn't going to get you the life you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:37 PM
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A man who likes cats is such a green flag
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:48 PM
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There was a book that addressed this called "Why Men Love Bitches," and the underlying principal was that you can't expect anyone else to respect you if you don't respect yourself. Being a doormat in hopes of getting what you want is a bad strategy. It didn't emphasize manipulation, but it did suggest that you communicate to set expectations clearly, and if things aren't moving in the direction you want after a couple of years, do not be afraid to leave the relationship. Do not be so desperate t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:37 PM
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I don't think it's unreasonable to want to be acknowledged for Father's Day if you've been an involved parent. That said, that guy is in for a world of hurt. Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:27 PM
2

Green tea
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:23 PM
2

Yes, but a lot of people go into debt to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:19 PM
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Feel free to ignore my advice and rant online about how unfair life is because women aren't as direct as men are. It makes no difference to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:10 PM
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I get it, and that sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:27 PM
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The fertility component is the only part that's valid imo. There is a fertility window for women that can complicate dating from 27-35/36 or so if they want a family and they go too long without a commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:12 PM
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This is just flatly incorrect. My mom's close friend was a 38 year old single mom when she married an attractive orthopedic surgeon, and they're still married 25 years on living in a gigantic house going on lavish vacations. They had a kid together as well. Both of my husband's grandmothers were widowed relatively early (50s and 60s) and both received MULTIPLE marriage proposals from hardworking, attractive men. There is no Wall, as the red pill defines it. Women can get commitment from a good m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:09 PM
10

Previous generations sunbathed and smoked-two major sources of aging. American Millennials use sunscreen and don't smoke, for the most part. It's not surprising they're aging better so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:04 PM
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It's not. My cousin has been dating a guy for eight or nine months and his ex is harassing them both to the point that he told her if she doesn't stop she is going to report her actions to the school district where she works. Thousands of texts, voicemails, creating new social media accounts to contact them both. Kind of wild. They only dated three months too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:00 PM
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Women aren't going to be direct as we're socialized from birth not to be. If you don't want to play the game, no one is forcing you to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:53 PM
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I'm trying to give you insight-if you don't want to use it, that's fine with me. If a girl finds excuses to touch your arm and watches you to see how you react to things, she's into you. If both of those things have happened to you and she still said no, then please feel free to come back and yell at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:51 PM
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Yep, I know a lot of beautiful men who repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot and remain single. Conversely, I know some less attractive men who do very well romantically. Charm is a tough skill to learn if you don't have it naturally though, so I do have sympathy for those without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:08 PM
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Here's generally what to look for-not a perfect system, but nothing is. Does she touch you a lot? (This could admittedly go either way-I have flirtatious friends who touch everyone) Does she make excuses to talk to you? (This is a good indicator) Do you catch her looking at you, especially after someone has made a joke, to see how you react? (If this happens, she almost definitely likes you) Does she blush and look down when she's talking to you? (Ditto the last one) Does she give you random com…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:04 PM
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I've made the first move twice (both times when I was in college), and I only did it when I felt I had clear signs of interest. Both were men that I had met in a comfortable social setting (one was a political group on campus, one was a dorm party where I already knew a lot of people there). Both had told their friends that they liked when I was around and that information made it back to me. I would never approach a stranger, and I would never initiate without a clear indication that I would ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:00 PM
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Not man bad, just man dumb if they fall for this obvious schtick.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:44 PM
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I have no problem if someone shoots their shot. It makes sense to want to date someone you already like enough to be friends with. I also have no problem with a man distancing himself if he has unrequited romantic feelings and it is painful to remain friends. It's sad to lose a friendship, but it is what it is. All I said is that it might be helpful to learn common indicators a girl is interested, as most make it pretty obvious, before shooting said shot. If you'd rather not do that and want the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 03:38 PM
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Nah, I took the rejection in stride and started dating someone else who was interested in me a couple of months later. I then turned down original guy when he asked me out after breaking up with his girlfriend. I stayed friends with him and his suitemates and the girls on his floor because they were nice and fun and kept inviting me to things. We're still all friends ten years later. That's kind of the opposite of what you said. I didn't date the original guy until the beginning of grad school t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 03:49 PM
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He rejected me because he was still with his high school girlfriend at the time and I had just met him so I didn't know that. Maybe your strategy of hating on random women online will pay off for you one day. Good luck out there :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:44 AM
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Nah, he rejected me because he was still with his high school girlfriend at the time, and I didn't know that yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:41 AM
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Contribute to Roth then, invest in an index fund
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:34 PM
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Yes, definitely
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 03:50 PM
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Friendship should benefit both parties. No one should stay in a relationship of any kind if it's one-sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 01:53 PM
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I married someone who started as a friend, but we were only friends because neither of us was single at the same time. If you're both available and she's not giving you any indicators of interest, she's generally not interested. Furthermore, we value our friendships in general, so we understand that if a man confesses his feelings, that friendship is irretrievably changed, if not broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 01:04 PM
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Nay. A nice fitting pair of shorts makes a man's frame look so good. Why ruin it with the bulk of cargo pockets?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:06 PM
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Yep, it gets aggravating seeing men praise celebrities for their "natural beauty" when those women have had all sorts of plastic surgery/Botox/fillers and never show their face without makeup. Watch what they do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:53 PM
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Yep, Retinol, Botox and Fillers are about all that'll help once wrinkles develop.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:45 PM
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Men don't complain about it, but they go after the women who spend time on styling their hair and applying makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:41 PM
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The trend right now is more glowy, natural makeup anyway. Caked on makeup only looks good in pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:40 PM
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It's not the not saving the girlfriend that raises the red flag, it's putting his infant on the ground then leaving without him (not to mention his toddler who was with the girlfriend).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:53 AM
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Whenever I think about Aurora, I think about this story: https://www.wptv.com/news/national/during-confusion-of-aurora-theater-shooting-jamie-rohrs-left-behind-his-baby-girlfriend-daughter I know adrenaline doesn't leave you acting rationally, but I don't think I could get over this and go on to still marry the guy like she did. (And yes, I agree you shouldn't be bringing toddlers and infants to midnight showings in theaters).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:38 AM
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We do, but I use a lot of pots/pans that need to be scrubbed, and we have kids so there's always stuff all over the kitchen. He gets the more labor intensive job for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:32 AM
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My husband doesn't cook at all, but he always cleans up the kitchen after we eat. I like cooking and hate doing dishes so I'm very content with the arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:26 AM
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That is pretty bad for a lot of reasons. I'm really sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:22 PM
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I know this is probably bait, but here's a recent counterexample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDXus-WoauE
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:01 AM
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New York City has a bunch of immigrants/immigrant-descendants from places not known for their tall stature (Italians, Latin-Americans) and they do fine with women. Just need to have rizz, as they say. https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/average-height-by-state
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:27 PM
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Wow, that's awesome! Appreciate the heads up. This year has been amazing for looking up at the sky
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:30 AM
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Happy birthday, and have a nice museum date!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 11:32 PM
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With Botox and filler, all things are possible
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:35 PM
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No, I think it's a very good thing that men are making their feelings known. Wouldn't you prefer to play poker with the other players showing all of their cards?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:46 AM
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I agree with you? People should always keep their resumes current in case of the worst. Risk mitigation is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:11 AM
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I'm a grown adult who doesn't want to depend on another adult for my livelihood. Who cares if it's meaningful work or not? You've missed the p point completely. Fortunately, most women haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 11:08 PM
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Agree with you- the court of public opinion is enough. I certainly hope he gets booed every time he attempts a kick, but zero interest in any official punishment from the NFL that would give him a martyr angle.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 09:40 PM
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Correct, it is. You can't control the actions of another person, and you can't guarantee that a man who loves you today will love you tomorrow. Every woman should have a backup plan, even if she plans on being a SAHM.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 09:27 PM
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Maybe you don't care, but she does. Women have collectively decided they by and large want economic independence, and the sour grapes posted by men they wouldn't want anyway isn't going to change that. Stake your future on yourself, not another person. It's good advice for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 09:18 PM
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Plenty of women have seen other women get fucked over by staking their bets on their men, and as a result you see more women than ever before pursuing economic freedom. No putting that genie back in the bottle now. Moreover, are there any countries that enforce traditional values that you'd actually want to live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 09:05 PM
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I agree with this. I know a lot of men in the 5'7/5'8 range who do very well, but below that is much harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:37 PM
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It's 100% a circlejerk, especially considering Republicans and men are more likely to be OK with dating someone with opposing political views than the other way around. https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/survey-results/daily/2020/08/11/eacef/3
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:24 PM
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If we're going to be that reductionist, the entire conservative ideology seems to be blowing up the budget for boondoggles (Iraq/Afghanistan and building the wall/tax cuts for the wealthy). We'd just prefer that money be spent on something that's actually helpful (and yes, I'm aware of and disagree with the current military spending too).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:17 PM
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The vast majority of liberals don't want communism. Dismissing liberal ideology as communism is intellectually lazy. And I don't expect my moral framework to be "validated at every turn," but my sister is gay and has a wife and I needed an abortion for an unviable pregnancy that was threatening my life, so I have no interest in spending any of my time or energy with a conservative, nor do I care if people whose values I find abhorrent find me unattractive. Their ideology would have left my siste…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:03 PM
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Greg Behrendt's book "He's Just Not That Into You" is amazing advice for women. I read it in high school and only had one run in with a situationship through my dating career, which I was able to recognize and get out of immediately. I hooked up with a friend I had known for years and had a huge crush on, and the next day he said he wanted to keep things casual as he had just gotten out of a long term relationship. One of the tenets of the book was "If he's not dating you, he's not that into you…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:33 PM
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Weird, my husband has two engineering degrees and is more of a leftist than I am. Before him, I dated two other men, both now physicians, and both are wildly liberal. Conflating intelligence with conservative ideology when Trump is your current figurehead is truly baffling., as is conflating the desire for a strong social safety net with communism. Women reading this: do not compromise your values for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:06 PM
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This is a fair point. You can be nice without being a pushover. No one respects/wants to sleep with a pushover.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:21 PM
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Something like 10% of married people met their spouse at work, so it does work out for a lot of people. Agree with you that you should try to avoid complicating power dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:19 PM
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The conviction rate for rape in jury trials is 77%. The stat you're referencing is that 7% of rapists see any jail time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:38 AM
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Conservative women like cops. All women like firefighters.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 07:21 PM
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If a man states that he loves her and is committed to her then bounces after hitting, then he certainly used her for sex. She consented to sex under the condition of a committed relationship. She would not have consented to sex if his intentions were clear. If a man is clear about his intentions from the outset (I only want this to be casual) and she proceeds anyway, then I fully agree with your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:02 PM
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I'm with you on the jobs you listed 100%. Hard pass on all. I went on one date with a rich finance major and it was easily the worst date I've ever been on in my life. My pro tip for women in college is go for the science and engineering students. They're intellectually curious and work hard and likely won't be threatened by you being smart or working hard. Plus, check out those low divorce rates: https://www.monster.com/career-advice/article/job-divorce-rate-1017
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:15 PM
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This is mine too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:05 PM
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This is fair, but also not a little thing. Two people don't need to have similar interests, but they should absolutely have similar values for a long-term relationship to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:04 PM
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Wrong lol. Ask any woman age 50+ on dating apps how much attention she gets. If you keep yourself in relatively good shape, it never stops. Both of my husband's grandmothers were widowed in their 50s/60s, and each of them had multiple marriage proposals from decent men (which they rejected).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 12:23 PM
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Most people marry within their socioeconomic class, and msot people marry people similar in age. Redpillers take a fringe minority of sugar daddy/baby arrangements and treat them as the rule. In western countries, only 8% of marriages involve an age gap of 10 or more years, and the divorce rate for those unions is literally 70-80%.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 12:12 PM
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Casual sex would evaporate, rapid increase in permanent sterilization procedures (assuming those were still allowed), increase in child abuse, increase in poverty
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:26 PM
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I don't disagree with you that youth and beauty are highly valued by men and women, and I don't blame men for being attracted to younger women at all. I also disagree with infantilizing women and assuming that they can't make decisions for themselves. However, differences in experience and financial security can set up some power imbalances that nearly always favor the older party. Some people are conscientious of that and treat their partner with consideration; others use it to their advantage.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 05:55 PM
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I promise you that grown women aren't sad about missing out on the 30/40 year old men who like to hit on teenagers. I'm sure this will fall on deaf ears, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 05:11 PM
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Are you one of said geniuses? Weird thing to brag about when you're likely right around the center of the distribution yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:31 PM
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I'd wager that my GRE score helped my PhD applications a lot, as I had scant research experience and was still awarded full funding at a few programs. My vote is go for it, especially if you're in a particularly competitive field.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:30 PM
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Alright, just don't come crying here when literally everyone judges you for going as young as you can legally go
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:14 PM
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Age 25 for the younger party is my answer. The rational part of your brain has undergone significant development. https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=1&ContentID=3051 That's the age you can be a US House Representative, you can rent an AirBnb on your own, and you can rent a car on your own without penalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 03:50 PM
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Being a genius in one field does not mean you know everything about every topic. Talk to a PhD, and you'll see that clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 03:34 PM
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Fully agree. If your partner is decently well adjusted and had a good childhood then what OP says applies. If your partner is dealing with unresolved trauma, there will always be a risk of them blowing up the relationship. That said, fretting about / banning your partner from going on a trip with their friends as a means to eliminate cheating is A) ineffective and B) no way to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 02:56 AM
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No issue
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 02:17 AM
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Saying "most young women" are fucking a new guy every week demonstrates that your beliefs are rooted in fantasy. An extremely small minority are hooking up every week-to use that to say something about young women as a whole is ridiculous. "In 2021, Gen Z men and women aged 18 to 24 reported having about one sexual partner in the past year, on average." https://www.womens-health.com/gen-z-sex-statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:45 PM
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I have a BMI in that range and I will absolutely not be attending
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:28 PM
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I don't think this is an unreasonable preference at all. Even moving past aesthetics, you want someone with a compatible lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:25 PM
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Nice job! Weight loss is a slog, but it's worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:24 PM
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You don't need to have the children lol one of life's blessings if you're a man
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:23 PM
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Minority. I would run far away from that woman, speaking as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:13 PM
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I don't disagree with you there. Misogyny and misandry are both rampant on Instagram and TikTok, likely because outrage generates engagement. Social media is almost certainly a net negative for interpersonal relationships as a whole, for a whole host of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:33 PM
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It may be my social circles, but I don't know any woman who stays single for long if her desire is a committed relationship. My frame of reference is mid 20s to mid 30s though. One the other end, women I know who have been widowed, even relatively young, aren't entertaining male attention at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:30 PM
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I have a lot of female friends and relatives in the 20s-30s age range and I'm not seeing the distress. Every women I know that wants a committed relationship (which is pretty much all of them) has one, and all of the guys they're with are decent people. Conversely, I've personally observed male relatives fall down the Peterson/Tate rabbit hole, and they've been single for years. I'd feel bad, but they publicly like a lot of vile misogynistic and homophobic content on social media, so it's of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:24 PM
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Damage control? Women are happily choosing to be single at greater rates than ever before, while men are bemoaning a loneliness epidemic. If anyone needs to do damage control, it's men. I'm not seeing that happening anytime soon, so I guess they'll continue thirsting over internet porn/Ig models, complaining about "female entitlement" and failing to find to fulfilling romantic relationships. Ah well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:55 PM
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"The phrase "feminine mystique" was coined by Friedan to describe the assumptions that women would be fulfilled from their housework, marriage, sexual lives, and children. The prevailing belief was that women who were truly feminine should not want to work, get an education, or have political opinions. Friedan wanted to prove that women were unsatisfied and could not voice their feelings." I have no idea what you were referring to
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:55 PM
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I don't demonize stay at home wives-I understand that having a parent at home is likely better for kids than sending them to daycare or having a nanny. However, you shouldn't enter that situation without some marketable skills in case things go south. Staking your livelihood on another person is a risky gamble.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:47 PM
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It definitely applies to both genders, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:43 PM
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Women die sooner if their husband is significantly younger or older. For a woman, marrying someone your own age is associated with the longest life expectancy, interestingly enough. https://www.demogr.mpg.de/en/news_events_6123/news_press_releases_4630/press/marriage_and_life_expectancy_1813#:~:text=The%20mortality%20risk%20of%20a,holds%20true%20for%20both%20sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:39 PM
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Hunker down and stay safe!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:51 PM
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You full on shouldn't have kids at all if that's your reaction to having one that's not your preferred sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:50 PM
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Please, for the love of your dignity, stop responding to her. Nothing good will come of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:05 PM
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Only if I had incurred a head injury that impaired my judgment..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:57 PM
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The sex ratio in NYC is heavily skewed female, especially at younger ages. https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F40hvu0rysgj81.jpg If a man looks good and has his shit together, it's a good place to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:52 PM
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The title stated women are bad at rejection. I don't think women really claim they are good at handling rejection, so I don't know what the point of this statement/debate is if not to juxtapose it with men being better at handling rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:45 PM
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Men and women are both bad at handling rejection. To your examples about women, I give you this series of example about men: r/whenwomenrefuse Furthermore, I don't think women spend a lot of time claiming they're better at handling rejection than men are. We just don't usually approach men because we don't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 02:30 PM
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I majored in anthropology for undergrad. This place is fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:11 AM
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Agree with this. You can either drift through your life or direct it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:09 AM
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I am in my mid thirties and I'd say about 2/3rds of my friends are married with children. Most of them (including me) didn't start having kids in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 02:58 AM
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Very similar to my story except my husband was the one with the girlfriend, and by the time he broke up with her I was dating someone else. When we were finally both single 3 years later, we hooked up almost immediately. Married for ten years, three kids, very happy. One of my closest friends waited out his now wife while she was in a relationship with someone else, and they just hit ten years married as well. The red pillers saying the women who leave boyfriends for men who become their husband…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 02:49 AM
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More women are going to college than men, and jobs that require college degrees pay more over a lifetime than jobs that rely on physical labor. So no, your point still doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:44 PM
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Get me to safety No Nothing-his job relies on his brain. He doesn't need to be incurring a concussion. No No, I think fighting should be an absolute last resort.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:38 PM
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If every job relied on physical strength, then you would have a relevant point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:25 PM
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Feminism doesn't deny the reality that most men are bigger and stronger than most women. Weird comment
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:06 PM
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Face is more important than height. Dave Franco, James McAvoy, Diego Luna are all beautiful men and I'd wager a guess that they'd never struggled for attention from women in their entire lives, pre or post fame. Put them against some random tall bro and you're really telling me tall bro has the edge?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 07:07 PM
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Get that bread, baby
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:57 PM
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My friend group consists of a bunch of lawyers, doctors, engineers, computer scientists and ALL of them married women with good/interesting jobs. People marry within their socioeconomic class. Men pulling six figures aren't marrying baristas all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:55 PM
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Face > height, and I'm married to a man who is 5'7 to put my money where my mouth is. I've dated men ranging from 5'7 to 6'0 and he gets hit on the most by a long shot, including in front of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:48 PM
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Q4M here: If the number of creeps is overblown, why do fathers continue to caution their daughters about men? If you had a daughter, would you feel comfortable with her walking in the woods alone as a teenager/young adult, assuming she was experienced in hiking/knew first aid? Would you prefer she carry some sort of a deterrent? If so, why? If you can truly say you wouldn't caution your daughter about men in any regard, then I'll start to believe that the problem of men making women unsafe is sm…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:22 PM
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90
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:41 AM
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Most crop tops show maybe an inch of skin. Seems like a weird thing to get bent out of shape about. Are you in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:35 AM
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I love low male and female voices. High pitched male is mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:38 PM
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I went to a music festival 7 months pregnant, so sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:38 PM
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All of those things certainly matter in attraction. Charisma is arguably the most important facet of attraction. Charismatic men can absolutely pull attractive women regardless of looks/money/status, but it's very difficult/time-consuming to become charismatic if you don't come by it naturally. I do have sympathy for men on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:33 PM
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Prejudice is a bias against something without reason. Women are cautious of men in the woods because women have been murdered by men in the woods. In a survey of 2000 female recreators, over 90% had been catcalled, and over 50% had been followed (myself included). That is the exact opposite of forming an opinion without reason. That's forming an opinion from experience. https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/climbing/state-outdoorswoman-2017/ Some men are intellectually honest enough to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:17 PM
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I wear tight gym clothes when I work out at home in front of no one. It's annoying doing a lot of exercises with baggy clothes on because they get in the way of the exercise or they get too sweaty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:56 PM
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Is being scared of men misandry? I always thought of misandry as the hatred of men. You can like men but still be fearful of what they might do. That all said, I hike quite a bit, and I'd much, much rather pass a random male hiker than run into a bear, even a black bear. I'm honestly impressed/curious people aren't particularly scared of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:52 PM
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Nickelback and it isn't even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:34 PM
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John Lennon's music (though I'm mostly a George stan); Kurt Cobain as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:33 PM
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??? Assuming you're not looking in her windows and being weird, then just go the shorter route
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:38 PM
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Lmao come on bro
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:32 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/ Women do more chores even in marriages where they are the primary breadwinner. From the study in the article you cite: "The gender imbalance in time spent on caregiving persists, even in marriages where wives are the breadwinners. Women who are the primary earner in their marriage spend slightly more time than husbands on paid work, and they have considerably less leis…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:54 PM
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If there is a draft, women should be part of it, but most prominent feminist groups oppose the draft altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:49 PM
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Your beliefs about life in the 90s are patently false. Women have always and will continue to do the majority of childcare and the majority of housework regardless of whether they are employed outside the home or not, at least in the United States. All of your examples are Instagram/TikTok rage bait. The VAST majority of women aren't being flown out anywhere. Influencers whose job it is to look good are the exception, not the rule. My parents both worked outside of the home and they pooled all o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:31 PM
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I think he's just saying that values and goals should be aligned rather than appearance and personality. You should both have similar stances on how you want your relationship to look, on kids, finances, where you want to live, gender roles, arguably politics. This is great advice for anyone looking for a committed relationship, honestly. You may be insanely attracted to another person, but if your values do not align you're in for a world of hurt down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:34 AM
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I don't understand any of these talking points. Women are aware that height matters. We just disagree with the assertion that "it's over" if you aren't six feet. It's self-defeating nonsense. Not wanting to date an obese woman is literally fine. No one is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to ask out a woman you aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:17 AM
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My now-husband covered pretty much all of our dates when he was working as an engineer and I was a poor grad student. Now that we're married I have a good job too and all of our money is pooled. So I guess I got the "princess treatment," but it paid off in the long run. And when I had his children, I knew I didn't need to worry about him guilting me for being on maternity leave and contributing less financially. If you were a woman deciding between two attractive men, and one asked you to split …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:19 AM
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I agree with you on this. Men are the "askers" 95% of the time, so this rule is patently unbalanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:14 AM
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The scene with the toddler on the beach was really disturbing. Movie is "Under the Skin." It's good. Same director as Zone of Interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 02:59 PM
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I am truly sorry about your nephew, but that doesn't change the fact that waiting until you are established and secure in your mate (which often doesn't happen until late 20s/early 30s) is likely the better option for most women. I fully agree with you that two parent households are preferred for childrearing, but marriages are more likely to stay intact if they occur when both individuals are over the age of 25. Women know that there is a biological clock, I promise you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 04:02 PM
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Women giving birth in their mid 20s to early 30s have the lowest risk of having babies with chromosomal abnormalities. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-80968-4 Teen pregnancies are bad for everyone involved in pretty much every facet you can measure. Advanced maternal age pregnancies aren't ideal from a health perspective, but there's evidence to suggest the benefits of being born to an older mother may outweigh the biologic risks (kids tend to be healthier, taller, get more education …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:53 PM
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Yep, men aren't expected to act like this at all, but the ones who do certainly give the rest of you a good name. I hit a patch of black ice, spun out, and my driver's side rear door got punched in by a truck. I came to a stop on the median of a highway, my head got punched by the airbag, and I incurred a concussion (I later learned). A man I didn't know pulled over, told me he was a volunteer firefighter, wrapped me in a blanket and told me to wait in his car until help came instead of outside …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 12:32 AM
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I'll answer. I married a man who is 5'7, and I'm extremely attracted to him. The number of women who have openly hit on him is honestly pretty amusing. The woman giving him his flu shot last year called him a zaddy completely unprompted.. Face > height, 100%, all day every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:36 PM
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Sure. I think the expectations for a man are tough to live up to. You have to be strong, you have to provide, you can't show the wrong types of emotions for fear of appearing weak, you could be drafted into a war you don't agree with, you have to be confident, you have to make the first move and deal with rejection. That's a lot to shoulder. My introverted ass could never; I'd die alone for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:49 PM
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I am woman and I'll tell you outright that charm/confidence/charisma are the most important factors in getting your foot in the door with a woman. You don't need height, you don't need a good face, you don't need a lot of money, you don't need a good body, you just need to be charming. If you have charm and any of those other things it makes it even easier. Unfortunately, charm is the most difficult characteristic to hone if you don't come by it naturally. But surely you could see that just by o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:23 PM
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Please don't take what you read on Instagram seriously. Outrage generates engagement. It's harming everyone's mental health, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 07:55 PM
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For real. I've been married for ten years and my husband and I have seven? concerts lined up in the next year. He was a bassist in a band when we met...I don't think he would have been interested if I didn't like music. I also wouldn't bother with a man who walked in front of me in public, unless it was a crowd and he was trying to clear a path. To me, that is incredibly rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 01:51 AM
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It's a slur almost exclusively directed at women. Usually means she's having sex but not with you. If a man uses it, it gives sour grapes and lets me know to avoid him for friendship/relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:47 AM
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Why would we call another woman out for having a lot of sex by using a gendered slur? It's her business. No man will call out another man for the same. If you want to prize virginity, so be it, but don't expect women to carry your water for you. A man who uses gendered slurs is a man women should avoid, so the word is useful in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:47 AM
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This is why men are lashing out so hard at women. Women now have the freedom to choose their companions without the same financial implications there were before. As a result, we're seeing the amount of parental involvement from fathers skyrocket and divorce rates plummet. But the men who aren't getting chosen are pissed, seeking out media that dehumanizes women, blaming everyone but themselves for their failures with the opposite sex (self-reflection is hard) and becoming radicalized. It's a mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:17 PM
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Republicans are taking a beating in elections since the overturn of Roe v Wade because women are more reliable voters than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:45 PM
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I think desperation turns a lot of women off, even if the man is otherwise attractive. If a man is married, the desperation is gone. That said, I don't disagree that pre-selection likely has something to do with it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 01:54 AM
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This is such a desperately sad way to the view the world
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:18 PM
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Right, and older (65+) women have the lowest suicide rates of any adult demographic in that same figure. There's also this study that finds divorced men commit suicide at significantly higher rates than married men, but marital status has no impact on suicide rates for women. I'm focusing on suicide because it's difficult to assess happiness/sadness by other proxies. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1731658/#:~:text=RESULTS%E2%80%94For%20the%20entire%20sample,significant%20effect%20o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:08 PM
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That likely just indicates women are more likely to seek treatment for depression than men, not that they are more depressed. Looking at Figure 2 (describing patterns of suicide by age and sex), one might infer that depression is a major issue for men at nearly every age, but most strikingly so in the 75+ age group. https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/statistics/suicide
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 04:48 PM
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Sperm quality degrades with age. That's biology, not a fake feminist narrative. You can have children, but those children are much more likely to have issues. Men who want children should get going in their 30s, as should women. If you're 43 and aren't even with the woman you're planning to have children with yet, good luck to you I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:33 AM
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If you don't care about having kids, there is no wall. Women get hit on until they die. There is a clock on fertility, but presumably everyone knows that by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:55 PM
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They may not state it outwardly, but yes. Our nanny had a baby with a deadbeat. The baby is now 5. The deadbeat is 29 and only dates girls 22 and younger and then makes them do all of the childcare whenever he has visitation with his daughter. The last one delayed breaking up with him because she was worried what would happen to the care of his daughter without her present. Fortunately, her mom was awarded full custody and the girlfriend broke up with him, guilt free. He's moved on (and moved in…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:51 PM
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Counterpoint: Why would a grown adult with a functioning brain want someone else to make all of their major decisions? Partnerships in business work well all the time, so why would the home be any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:31 PM
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Don't bother. The men claiming that there are no benefits to marriage shouldn't be getting married anyway. There is a reason nearly every successful man you can think of has a wife. If they aren't smart enough to see that, that's on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:28 PM
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Married men are the happiest, healthiest and wealthiest demographic. The "marriage is a net loss for men" is just a flat out lie. Divorce, however, is certainly a net loss for men. Choose your mate correctly and you will be better off.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:25 PM
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My guess it's that's due to other factors, like religion. Religious people are less likely to live together before marriage and are more likely to stay married given their religious beliefs, even if the marriage isn't going well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:21 PM
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It's not about body weight percentage. In the United States men are veering right, and women are veering left, and it's foolish to marry someone with dissimilar values. There aren't enough compatible mates in Gen Z. https://www.businessinsider.com/gen-z-gender-gap-young-men-women-dont-agree-politics-2024-1#:~:text=Since%202014%2C%20women%20between%20the,in%20social%20movements%20and%20protests.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:15 AM
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I've never dated a conservative man, and I married a full on leftist. He makes a great salary as an engineer, I am not exaggerating when I say I've never met anyone who works harder than he does. I had a wanted pregnancy with him a few years into our marriage and my membranes spontaneously ruptured at 13 weeks gestation. A fetus cannot developed properly in the absence of amniotic fluid, and ruptured membranes put you at risk of infection. Because I live in a liberal hellhole I was able to termi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:41 PM
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Yep, there are a few cases where the captain forced men to let women and children go first (the Titanic) but men are much more likely to survive maritime disasters. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1207156109
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:28 PM
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My mom earned more than my dad (private industry vs government job) and they're still happily married after 40 years. You could argue she played the very long game though-his post retirement healthcare benefits are amazing and allowed her to retire earlier than she would have otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:44 PM
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As a counterpoint, I'm 4th generation college-educated/working woman and my grandfathers were crazy about my grandmothers, my father is crazy about my mother, and my husband works hard to make me happy every single day. Every woman (and man, for that matter) in my family emphasized the importance of education self-reliance, and as far as I can tell it's served us all well. Women being subservient to men serves men to the detriment of both parties, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:02 PM
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Openly thirsting over internet girls is a fine reason to break up with a guy. Publicly horniness is pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:53 PM
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I mean just from a health perspective strength conditioning is very important. Being fit will also make you more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:40 PM
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Choosing not to date you aand telling other women not to tolerate disrespect isn't "waging war on men." Female lawmakers aren't out there drafting laws that restrict your rights. Chill with the victim complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:35 PM
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Reddit has had communities created for: ogling underage girls, raping women, taking creepshots, a litany of incel subreddits where men frequently suggested removing the right for women to vote or for women to be assigned to men. When the right to abortion was overturned in US, several prominent subreddits had posts of men celebrating (including this one). Twoxchromosomes tells women to stay single rather than deal with men who do not treat them well. Female dating strategy is/was open misandry-I…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:29 PM
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Yep, it's in the kid's best interest for both parents to be relatively young (20s/30s) at conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:39 PM
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Same story here. My husband has a Master's degree in engineering (I have a PhD in a science), and his intellectual curiosity both inside and outside of his discipline is part of what drew me to him. Now we have kids and they're all keen on math and science and I get to watch him foster that curiosity as a father. I'm content with my choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:55 PM
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My dad worked as a landscaper and you better believe that has a shelf life. He switched to a government job at age 40, retired at 65 and is now set for life with a pension and post-retirement healthcare. Because he had a college degree it was pretty easy for him to make the switch, and his body is still in good enough shape to enjoy an active retiement
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:50 PM
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Statistically, the most successful relationships (if defining via divorce rate) are those with zero age gap
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:33 PM
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It's hilarious that you're calling other people bitter given your edit and responses. Pot calling the kettle black. Let me ask you this: If you had a daughter, would you mind if she brought home a man 20 years her senior to meet you? If not, then I suppose I'll give you props for your ethical consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:53 PM
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Here you go https://www.who.int/news/item/09-03-2021-devastatingly-pervasive-1-in-3-women-globally-experience-violence
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:24 PM
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Women are telling each other to stay single. Men are telling each other to restrict women's rights. Hm..wonder why women aren't more sympathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:58 PM
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Yep, if age gaps weren't a problem you wouldn't see fathers and brothers so pissed when their daughter/sister brings home someone much older. Men know men and the ones who love us tell us to avoid older men, so what should we be inferring from that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:42 PM
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Gen Z men are trending more conservative than Millennial men, while Gen Z women are even more liberal than Millennial women (who were already pretty darn liberal). With the overt attack on women's bodily autonomy from the GOP, I doubt there are many liberal women eager to enter into a relationship with a conservative man now, so it'll be interesting to see what happens. My guess is a further decline of marriage rates. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/05/31/republicans-still-hope-that…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:23 PM
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A man dating a woman with a fully developed prefrontal cortex is a total non-issue. He's also dated women his own age and women older than him, which completely flies in the face of what you're claiming. His preference is "attractive woman" and he doesn't set some weird expiration date on women like you all do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:17 PM
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For real-who the hell would ever want to marry someone with this kind of garbage mentality? You're all telling on yourselves which I honestly think is great as more women than ever before are choosing to be single rather than deal with your misogynistic BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:13 PM
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Older men (35+) who pursue 18 year olds are absolutely losers, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:11 PM
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I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of women have been harassed by much older men at some point in their lives, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:08 PM
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As I woman I can tell you that my interest in a man who targets girls half his age is zero. I'm not here to warn a girl against doing what she wants but you better believe I'm judging the man as an emotionally arrested creep
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:05 PM
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It's more the bizarre complexes you all have, not that we're "intimidated by your intelligence." Though I shouldn't talk, I wound up married to an engineer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:35 AM
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No woman wants the gross dude hitting on teenagers in his 30s. He's a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:33 PM
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Right, the first time I got followed home I was 12 and completely undeveloped. And did you watch any episodes of To Catch a Predator? Literally streams of men thinking they were about to meet with 12/13 year old girls. If a guy is going for women as young as he can legally get them, it's a major, major red flag. Tell yourself whatever you need to to feel better but if you bring around an 18 year old when you're over 30, a lot of people are going to think you're a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:27 PM
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My guess is you won't end up divorced with this mentality anyway. Kudos to you and your spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:17 PM
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Same exact opinion. They definitely look good on some men, but they feel awful. Clean shaven all the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:11 AM
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Yes, it is definitely a compliment. Cillian Murphy, Ian Somerhalder, young Johnny Depp, Timothee Chalamet are all "pretty" but very appealing. I've only ever dated guys with nice faces-it matters a lot more to me than body type provided there's some reasonable level of fitness there. Being called "cute" on the other hand could go either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:17 PM
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It doesn't matter if it's the lowest common denominator. A woman has no idea what caliber of man she's dealing with when she's hit on by a stranger, so it's better to play it safe, be polite and get herself out of there in one piece.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 03:46 PM
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It's always been that way. "The Wall" is a revenge fantasy that rarely plays out in real life. Most men who couldn't attract women at 20 still won't attract women at 40. Marriages are least likely to end in divorce the closer in age the two partners are. And more women are content to be single at older ages than men. Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:04 PM
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I'm in NY in a pretty economically successful social circle, and half of the members of my friend group of about 24 or so met their future spouse in college. I'm now 34, but marriages started around age 25 and peaked around ages 27-28. An old FB study found that 28% of married college grads attended the same school as their spouse, so it's not off base to suggest that a lot of people are pairing up early.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:01 PM
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Look at the sub you're in lol. Dumb and misogynistic is the name of the game.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/03/21 02:43 PM
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This analysis disputes that, and suggests that the scale effect that I described dominates the substitution effect that you described. Just something to consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 02:24 PM
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The easier explanation is that more men would visit prostitutes were it legal. Prostitution is not a desirable job for most women for myriad reasons, so you have a demand that's much greater than the supply. Enter human trafficking to fill that gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 01:51 PM
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I've found what you're saying to be true for hookups, not for long term relationships and marriages. I'm in a social circle filled with doctors, lawyers, engineers, PhD scientists-not one man has married "beneath" him, so to speak. There are studies to bear this out-people marry others in their same social class, and this effect is becoming more pronounced over time. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/23/upshot/rise-in-marriages-of-equals-and-in-division-by-class.html
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:11 PM
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In my experience, smart men marry smart women. I've never seen a man in my social circle marry much "beneath" him. I think it's true that a man will have sex with an attractive woman no matter her financial/career prospects, but I've not seen that born out in relationships or marriages at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:56 PM
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There's a reason widowed men jump right into another marriage while widowed women tend to stay single (I have studies to back that up if you'd like them). Marriage tends to benefit men more than it does women. Married men live longer than single men, whereas single women live longer than married women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 03:48 PM
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This subreddit is absolutely misogynistic lmfao. It's relishing in women specifically getting their "just desserts." I'm sure a subreddit like this about men or about people of a certain race would be taken extremely well 🙄
/r/PussyPassDenied23/01/21 01:34 PM
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