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1	Should a man have fatherhood forced upon him? Or should he have a legal way of waiving it before the woman's pregnancy? 3) Mother can choose to have an abortion once father makes intent to not support child known. And if she chooses any option other than 3, then I don't see any reason whatsoever why that should be the father's problem.	/r/MensRights	03/07/13 04:06 PM
2	Should a man have fatherhood forced upon him? Or should he have a legal way of waiving it before the woman's pregnancy? The whole point, though, is that we're offering the man an option to cease being the legal guardian. No different from adoption or abandoning the child at a church or police station. If you prefer, consider it an adoption - Man and woman put child up for adoption, woman alone adopts it. If she can't afford it, your problem is with her as a single mother. I don't see why one particular person should be punished for her bad decision, any more than you see why society as a whole should do the same.	/r/MensRights	03/07/13 03:37 PM
2	Should a man have fatherhood forced upon him? Or should he have a legal way of waiving it before the woman's pregnancy? Sure they can; you'd just prefer that they not. Nobody's arguing that the man should have control over if she aborts the child. Just that he should be given an option on whether or not he is obliged to support said child. As it stands currently, the woman's options are to abort or have the child and force him into paying child support. All we're discussing is the removal of the "force into paying child support" part; after that, it's up to her to decide if she wants to have the child as a single…	/r/MensRights	03/07/13 03:34 PM
0	Should a man have fatherhood forced upon him? Or should he have a legal way of waiving it before the woman's pregnancy? There is no such thing as a right to support from your biological parents; this is why adoption is legal. If the mother doesn't wish to raise the child as a single mother, there's absolutely nothing stopping her from getting an abortion once the father makes his intent clear. The onus and responsibility for the child's well-being therefore falls on her.	/r/MensRights	03/07/13 03:31 PM
2	Should a man have fatherhood forced upon him? Or should he have a legal way of waiving it before the woman's pregnancy? We've seen fit to legislate a non-biological imperative that the father pay child support; the argument that biology cannot be counteracted by legal or social structures has no merit.	/r/MensRights	03/07/13 03:27 PM
0	Should a man have fatherhood forced upon him? Or should he have a legal way of waiving it before the woman's pregnancy? Or we can acknowledge that progress and technology have, for the woman at least, created a division between the act of sex and the act of procreation. Of course, that'd mean you'd have to pull your head out of the 16th century puritan ass you've shoved it up.	/r/MensRights	03/07/13 03:26 PM
1	Should a man have fatherhood forced upon him? Or should he have a legal way of waiving it before the woman's pregnancy? Not really. Both of them, at their root, are unilateral decisions to not be a parent.	/r/MensRights	03/07/13 03:20 PM
5	"What Will We Concede To Feminism": UPDATE The problem being that the 10% cited can just as easily become 20%, or 5%, or 1%, depending on the desires and view of the person who's making the argument. Throwing out fudge factors with no evidence to support how you arrived at them invalidates damned near the entire argument. This more closely approximates a religious argument ("I have 'faith' that the numbers are underreported by a factor of 10/20/100/whatever") than it does a scientific argument. And I'm entirely too sick of policy being m…	/r/MensRights	03/07/13 02:59 PM