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From reading your post and your comments in this thread, it seems like you're mostly just after pictures of guys who work out.. I'm just saying..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 12:17 PM
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I lift and work out a lot, physically I may look like what you expect a redpiller to look like (in fairness, it's really only because I play rugby so my diet and exercise routines are very specifically catered to the physical demands of my position within the team; I consider working out something of chore that is a prerequisite to being able to do the thing I love more than anything else), but I am not a redpiller by any means nor do I have any interest in being one. That being said, I think th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 12:11 PM
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Some of my favourite comments in a long time in that stickied thread. As per usual the shit floats to the top. Exactly. This is how Feminism works: From a cultural Marxist worldview. They make up words and phrases to shut down logical discourse Right, 'misogynist' is a word the feminists made up to shut down logical discourse, it totally isn't a word that's been around since at the latest the 16th century. If you're looking for people who make up words and phrases I know of a group that does tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 08:26 AM
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I fully concur, it was just the wording that irked me a little. You should have a healthy amount of skepticism in dealings with strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 10:05 PM
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No, and if that had been what you were advocating I wouldn't have said a thing, but what you were advocating was fear, as seen here: I'm advocating all people should be afraid of all people
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 09:46 PM
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im not telling anyone how to live their lives But you are saying that people should basically live in fear, I mean you literally said "I'm advocating all people should be afraid of all people". I would say one should be wary of those you don't know for certain you can trust, but you should be at least open to trusting people, even "if you didn't grow up with his family and don't have historical ties with him". All I'm saying is, I wouldn't want to live the way you're advocating. Reality doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 09:25 PM
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im advocating all people should be afraid of all people. if you didnt grow up with his family and dont have historical ties with him you have no idea who he is. I have to say, what you're advocating doesn't sound like a very enjoyable way to live your life. I would say I'm more of the "I'm not afraid of anyone unless they give me reason to be" view. You're basically saying live life being fearful of everyone until you know every aspect of their background and history; how does one, without resor…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 09:05 PM
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Also interesting how comedians get away with saying shit that would otherwise be "offensive". It's mostly because they say it in a way that is funny, rather than offensive. To paraphrase the great Colin Quinn, one of the greatest comedians of all time and mentor to some of the greatest comedians of all time, "when you hear things said by a comedian, on a comedy stage, at a comedy club, during a comedy show, and you decide to take them seriously or look for some sort of guidance in them, you're a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 08:47 PM
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Yeah, I should have figured that any response would involve some kind of just world fallacy. Sorry, I don't realize accept just world fallacies as legitimate debate positions. Nice and pretentious there. Also, a classic TRP "everything that isn't in accordance with the TRP view is a fallacy" line well taken. And you don't accept "just world fallacies" (lol) as "legitimate debate positions"? Well apologies, I didn't realize you were moderating this debate as well as participating in it. Fun way t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 04:53 PM
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That would depend on the situation and the nature of the problem. You'll notice I did not in fact "dismiss" dreadgame, I acknowledged it's potential and explained that I use it sometimes in transactions of the non-personal kind. I merely said I don't want to use it in personal relationships, because they are best built on mutual respect, not manipulation (hence why in my relationship I don't suffer from lack of respect given or gotten, and in all these years never have). Had I built up a relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 12:40 PM
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That would be an issue that would need to be worked out, obviously. Mutual respect is very important in relationships of any kind. Which is why I wouldn't engage in dreadgame, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 10:11 PM
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I'm sure it could work in personal relationships as it can work in other types of relationships, but I wouldn't want to use it in a personal relationship.. I just wouldn't want to, it's very manipulative and cold, which is something I see no place for in a relationship built on mutual respect, and the "rewards" I might be able to get from it wouldn't feel very much like rewards to me. I slightly recoil at the thought of using it on my girlfriend or any of my friends for any purpose, it's a cold …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 06:57 PM
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You're thinking in binary, which is a rather something most people grow out of past adolescence. There's no need to be condescending now, I'm trying to keep this lighthearted. Most people recognize things aren't either 0% true or 100% true. Right, which is why most people don't make sweeping generalizations like that, because they recognize that most things are a lot more nuanced than that (hence why my reply when you said "Asians are short. Is that dumb?" was "A bit, actually. Or at least wanti…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 04:46 PM
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It's still, where I am anyway, a lot easier to get approved for a big loan for something like a house for example if you're married. Also, things like visitation rights etc. Thanks, anyway, and the best of luck to yourself as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 04:24 PM
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Yes, "All Asians are short" is inaccurate. Right, but your previous comment described the notion that "Asians are short" as "not inaccurate", implying it was an accurate statement. It was not, that was all I pointed out. If I say "Swedes are blond" and you respond with "actually tons of Swedes are not blond so your statement is inaccurate", I'd look a fool if I tried to defend my statement by saying "well, if I had said "All Swedes are blond" you would have had a point", because I'm the one maki…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 03:35 PM
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As a blanket statement without nuance it is inaccurate, because not all Asians are short.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 03:09 PM
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I ignored the signs that my wife wasn't really good at long term commitment. One of those signs is a high partner count. While I don't fully agree that such a thing is necessarily a sign of that, when I say I don't care how many partners my girlfriend has had before me I obviously don't mean to say that if she stops being committed to me I intend to ignore that. We're very committed to each other, and I care enormously about that. I do not care how many people she has slept with, but I do care a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 03:04 PM
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A little bit, actually. Or at least wanting in nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 02:30 PM
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But you should care about how many men your current gf has been with if you want to marry and have children with her. We don't want children, but we will at some point in the future be getting married, although mostly to get her parents off our back. We're both not all that fussed about marriage, we see it mostly as a useless piece of paper that is nonetheless desirable because it comes with some benefits in terms of finance and in terms of getting her mother to stop bugging me about it. We'd be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 12:54 PM
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I often see redpillers (though not always, it should be noted) describing the "perfect woman" as non-assertive, "traditional" and docile. It always confuses me, because women like that bore me to tears, they're the exact opposite of what I want in a woman. The other thing I fully don't understand is the notch-count thing. I genuinely couldn't give two shits how many people my partner has been with before me, so long as she isn't with anyone else now. I have literally no clue how many partners my…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 12:02 PM
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Dread game is great, I use it in financial transactions (there's no better way to get a car dealer to drop the price than to lead him to think you're about to look elsewhere, for example) or in business relationships, but in personal relationships I have zero interest in using it. I find it an awful way to treat another human being on a personal level and it's not how I want to interact with people at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 11:46 AM
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I understood that reference
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 11:43 AM
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Friend of mine once browbeat me into going on a rollercoaster, back when we were 9. I loved it, and now I love rollercoasters. If you think those situations are in any way comparable, I suspect you're incredibly foolish. You can't really rape a woman in this situation, because she wants it, she just doesn't know she wants it. Suspicion confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 05:57 PM
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even if you back down temporarily when she says no, theres a decent chance that you pressure in consenting even if she doesn't really want to. You can blame that on the girl, but to me it's an incredibly asshole thing to do. Exactly, I don't want to fuck anybody who isn't 100% down. You can pressure a girl into consenting in plenty of ways, but for me that takes all the pleasure out of it. If I'm trying to fuck a girl and she resists I'm very quickly turned off, and the stuff you read on TRP abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 03:15 PM
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You're not making much sense. To decry chivalry would be to condemn chivalry, to say it's bad. So you're saying that 'strong independent women' would be "the first to say chivalry is bad when they're in danger" (which is just nonsense), when your previous comment would suggest you think they would actually desire said chivalry if they were in said danger. My guess is you misused the phrase 'to decry' and were in fact trying to suggest that women who normally oppose 'positive sexism' (which is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 06:00 PM
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Straw man is attacking an argument that was never made, in this case meaning I never argued FOR TRP FR's I didn't attack you for arguing in favour of TRP FR's, hence the lack of strawman. I didn't attack anything, I merely pointed out that the same dismissal you made of OPs survey can also be made, on the same grounds and in the same way, of the majority of the supposed evidence proposed on TRP. I didn't attack anything, I merely took the opportunity to make a point about TRP in light of your po…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 09:02 PM
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I didn't claim anything other than that the people of TRP also indulgence in pointing to unverifiable information as evidence, I didn't suggest OP's study was verified at any point. That was the topic of my comment, and it was the topic I stayed on ;) At no point did I claim you referenced a FR, or that the study was verified. You need to learn what a strawman/ad hominem is. I was pointing out that TRPers do the same thing that you were pointing to as a reason to dismiss the study.. All I was sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 08:32 PM
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we have no way of knowing whether or not they are telling the truth. The same goes for every one of those "field-reports" people on TRP are always lauding with praise and fawning over. Basically, unverifiable and confirms TRP: good stuff, love it; unverifiable and negates TRP: pfft, like I'm gonna believe that. It's basically the definition of confirmation bias exemplified. Come to think of it, "this is basically the definition of confirmation bias exemplified" is something I find myself thinkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 12:04 PM
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Homosexual tendencies are tendencies towards sexual attraction to members of the same gender. Getting 'pegged in the ass' is a purely sexual act, it is not based on sexual orientation in any way, shape or form; it has nothing to do with being attracted to members of the same gender or members of another gender, it is simply a sexual act. That's like saying lesbians who fuck each other with strap-ons therefore have latent heterosexual tendencies, it's simply false.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 01:36 PM
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A homosexual act is an act of sex between people of the same gender. You can't commit a homosexual act if you're not both of the same gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 12:23 PM
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This is my thought exactly. Some of the stuff TRP preaches isn't all that insane when you analyze it, and (ignoring some of the pseudo-science that sneaks in through confirmation bias) a lot of it is based on sound, basic biology; but the general type of rhetoric and level of sheer vitriol on that sub makes the whole thing look like a pathetic club of childish, sad woman-haters, blaming women for anything and everything. I guess it's like any other group: the crazies are the loudest, so they end…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 03:31 PM
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Here's the long and short of it: If you're into fat people, fuck fat people. If you're not into fat people, don't fuck fat people. I think being concerned over, and trying to control, what people other people are trying to fuck is far more toxic, not to mention a bit sad, than any kind of "fat entitlement". I don't mind a bigger girl myself, it's not exclusively what I'm into, but I've fucked a few fat chicks in my single days, loved it. My LTR is with a thin girl as it happens, but I still don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 12:02 PM
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This is basically it. The majority of people choose the pursuit of happiness over the pursuit of doing everything the way some forum on the internet prescribes it. Call it whatever "pill" you want, at the end of the day it's largely bullshit. I've been in a very happy relationship for 7 years, which required no TRP shit to get, or to maintain, in fact I avoid it, and I couldn't be happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 09:18 AM
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It's the good old "I've swallowed the red pill, so I see the reality of things, these other people haven't swallowed the red pill, so they don't see it how it really is, therefore I must be right and they must be wrong", a slippery slope to self-delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 07:26 PM
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And whatever it may be, whatever the situation, whatever the context, it will be women's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 07:11 PM
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But do feel free to provide some examples of how I'm a SJW and a BPer, please. After all, it can't be that you're just putting words in my mouth, can it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 05:18 PM
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Lol, nice. There it is again, "Well if you don't agree with my view then you're just x, y and z". See, if you just dismiss everyone who disagrees with you, then you never have to consider the possibility that perhaps you aren't always absolutely right about everything! So little confidence, so little conviction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 05:09 PM
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It's a little jarring to see you complain that I'm putting words in your mouth, only for you to then go and call me an SJW and a BPer on assumption ;) (neither of which I am, btw.. just your persecution complex showing again ;)).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 05:00 PM
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Your ideal woman sounds like the most boring person on the planet, and the exact last type of woman I'd want to be with. Being "strong and independent" as you put it, having thoughts of your own and challenging others on theirs is what makes people interesting and enjoyable to be around, people who just "fall in line" as you put it are pointless company and boring as fuck. I like to be with people who are interesting, if my girlfriend were the way you describe the woman you want, I'd end it stra…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 11:38 AM
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Yeah, it felt like a pointless comment seeing as I had already mentioned it so I deleted it. I'm fickle like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 09:32 PM
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Surely I can't be the only person in the world who couldn't give a flying fuck about how many people my partner has been with before me? I couldn't tell you how many people my girlfriend has been with before me, because in the 7 years I've been with her I've never asked her, because I've never wondered about it. As long as your partner is committed to you and isn't with anybody else behind your back, and you have a healthy amount of confidence in yourself, you have no reason to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 06:46 PM
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Oh, shit. Didn't notice the post flair there, apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 01:53 PM
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Feminism wants to turn the world into a place where women are generally third-rate citizens? And then there was something, apropos of nothing, about muslim immigration? Feminism opposes the treatment of women as proposed by the Qur'an, as well as most other "holy" scriptures, but it doesn't take a position on immigration, really.. hence my confusion at your original comment. Well, most of the confusion came from your bringing up muslim immigration randomly out of nowhere, but from the point that…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 12:31 PM
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I'm not arguing that TRP wants the world to be a third world country, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 11:47 AM
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Huh? I'm sorry, I'm a little bit confused. What does this have to do with feminism, or muslims?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 11:36 AM
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Imagine that Women actually gave up the right to work and go to school in the name of whatever the hell this guy is rambling about, and all became housewives. Finally, we would have the economic conditions behind such powerhouses like Bangladesh. But I digress... The dynamic that TRP often preaches, that of the woman who doesn't seek to achieve anything but having children, doing the housework and living in servitude to the man, is a major part of what it is that is keeping the third world the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 11:24 AM
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I'm a 27-year old journalist and part-time teacher from The Netherlands. I have a passion for literature and poetry (which I also teach), whisky and rugby (which I also play). My girlfriend is a 28-year old psychologist from Wales, we met at university.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 01:44 PM
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I would have simply removed the option to choose 'atheist' as your religion. Atheists would still check the 'I have no religion' box, and people who do believe in a god but don't adhere to a particular religion would check the same box.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 11:16 PM
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I do, but that's not a very good comparison. Atheism = not believing in any gods or deities of any kind, and that's all it is. 'Not believing in gods' is not a religion, it's a rejection of a certain belief. To say that atheism is a religion would be like saying 'not believing in the existence of lucky socks' is a superstition. The definition of black as a 'lack of colour' is a definition based on the physical qualities of colours, atheism not falling under the category of "religion" is because …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 09:25 PM
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I gave it a skim. Its just funny to me that this dominatrix wants more men to get "liberated" and become basically, faggots. (No offense) I was really looking for someone to give it more of a "read". She isn't arguing for men to become "faggots", she's arguing for men to be allowed to accept and own up to their sexual desires (which, she argues, sexual repression prevents them from doing). People who have sexual fetishes and interests that aren't the same as yours aren't therefore "faggots", you…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 05:01 PM
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It's basically a quite lengthy article about sexual repression among men. Not really anything about "rich white men" or what is or isn't their fault (she does start talking about "angry white men" at a certain point, in reference to the Kimmel book of that name). Sounds like you need to get into a better class of literature if you come across that so much ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 04:39 PM
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Took the survey, just one little niggle: atheism is not a religion, it's a lack thereof. I'm an atheist, but under the question "what is your religion?" I checked the "not religious" box, not the "atheist" box, because I have no religion. Sorry to whine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 04:26 PM
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It starts with physical attraction. Physical attraction is the first to turn up but it's also the first to leave again. I can be hugely attracted to a girl when I see her, but if I talk to her and she turns out to be mentally unattractive I'm immediately turned off and lose all interest. Mental attraction is worked up slower, and develops gradually, but when it's there it's way stronger than physical attraction, and it doesn't go away as easily. If a woman doesn't stimulate me mentally, I will q…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 05:12 PM
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That's a difficult hypothetical.. It would certainly still be worthwhile because I can't stand not being with her, I couldn't be happier than I am with her and our relationship really doesn't take much effort to maintain, but I imagine it would be an issue because we do like sex.. I can't imagine a way in which our relationship wouldn't include sex but if it were to than I suppose we would have to find sex elsewhere to make up for the lack of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 11:12 AM
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Is BP a worldview? I thought it was solely to mock RP'ers, no offense. It is, people just cannot get this into their heads. There is no "Blue Pill", TBP is just a sub of people satirizing and making fun of TRP. There are RP'ers, and there are people who are not RP'ers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 05:49 PM
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I had never heard of that term before, but now that I know what it is: no. I'm in a relationship that obviously includes sex, and I never had too much of a problem picking up women before that. I've never used "RP tactics" in picking up women or in my relationship, nor do I plan to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 05:23 PM
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You give the awful impression of someone who not only has zero interest in contributing to the discussion that is the goal of this subreddit, but also of either literally still being in puberty or simply being stuck in the mindset. You may think your comment inspires in people a reaction along the lines of "wow, what a cool guy, I bet he gets loads of chicks!", but in reality it merely inspires pity and the feeling that you're quite a sad, stunted little man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 07:00 PM
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Pill: non-Red Gender: Male Personality: INFP Variant: Turbulent Role: Diplomat "You are one of the Diplomats - an empathic and idealistic individual who enjoys exploring interesting ideas and prizes morality. You are known for your poetic nature, intuitive skills and pure, childlike enthusiasm." I guess that's good.. Not sure what to make of it really. I do sort of identify with that description, now that I think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 02:24 PM
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This article goes into it a bit deeper. It sounds like she's just being rhetorical really, she isn't really proposing anything based on feminism or any other particular set of views. It sounds more like she's suggesting taking the opposite approach to Putin's macho bravado and grandstanding, but OP saw his trigger-word "feminism" being mentioned and without reading further felt a need to mock and belittle her without commenting on anything she's actually proposing, instead going for the ever-mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 02:08 PM
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It depends on your definition of "Anglo". The Angles were a Germanic tribe who, together with the Saxons, moved into Great Britain in the 4th or 5th century, and subsequent British culture and language was derived from theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 11:17 PM
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I went up there with her and her brother once.. it was weird. They live in Clans, speak a Scots dialect that I just couldn't understand a word of and drink like you wouldn't believe, but the Clan Chiefs are all members of the Scottish Peerage (meaning they're all "Earl of.." somewhere or "Lord of.." somewhere etc.), so they're actually filthy rich nobles. They all have a "seat" somewhere (some of which are castles) and every clan has its own "motto", it's all very Game of Thrones-ish. Edit: Chec…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 10:04 PM
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democrat, and what you would probably consider reasonably liberal, Are you implying that the American Democrats are liberals? Mate... come on now. They are far from it, in fact in many ways the opposite to it. I've been following your domestic politics from across the pond for about 10 years now, and it's still as clear as it was when I started that there is no liberal party in the US. Liberalism = a political ideology and philosophy centered around maximizing the liberty (hence the name 'libera…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 09:44 PM
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I think you may be a bit confused/misled about Arab culture, or Victorian culture, or both. the western rule of fathers as found at the height of rome or the Victorian era, not the rule of clans, nepotism, cousin marriage and warlords found in alien Muslim countries These things may not be found in the US, but clans, nepotism, cousin marriage and warlords were all highly prevalent in every European culture, including the "Anglo" one, including in the Victorian era. In fact, they still exist here…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 09:17 PM
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Come on, now. Nobody thought that shirt was sexy. Funny, possibly, but not sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 11:44 AM
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I love the first pic because it has Sam Burgess in it and he's the new big star on the England team so I love that dude... aside from that, I don't know what your point was in posting this.. I'm guessing most of you on here are Americans so let me provide some context. The gentlemen in these pictures are rugby players, and they are brothers. They initially all played Rugby League together, but Sam Burgess, the best of the Burgess Brothers as they're known, upgraded (Rugby League fans wouldn't co…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 11:39 AM
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So, are there any blue pill men who post here that don't fit into one of these groups: bisexuals, homosexuals, cuckolds, drug addicts, androgynous, asexuals, persons with aspergers, persons currently suffering from mental illnesses, or non-cis gendered individuals? It seems you not only misunderstand what "blue pill" is (there is no "blue pill lifestyle" or "blue pill people", just people who reject TRP. The BP subreddit is not about promoting any set of behavioural rules or views, it's about co…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 05:10 PM
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Seeing as you've ignored everything else and chosen to focus just on that, I'll respond just to that: You've got it the opposite way round from the reality, again. As I said, I was getting nothing but admiration for my many and varied sexual exploits, I was viewed and treated as something of a god-like figure by all the men and women I interacted with, which is why I kept it up much longer than I genuinely wanted to, hence my saying I'm embarrassed at how I behaved then: I carried on fucking as …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 09:03 PM
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Tons of casual sex but tired of it quickly huh? Then why the fuck were you having it? Sounds like you enjoyed the sex but not the work, or you wanted a commited relationship on top of it but were too conflicted to try this. No, after a few years I started to notice the more random girls I fucked the more I despised myself for it, and finally admitted that no matter how many high-fives from my buddies it got me, it was a pretty non-fulfilling lifestyle. So, after a few years I stopped having sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 08:32 PM
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Humans built society for themselves, because it was a good idea that led to humanity's progression as a species.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 07:51 PM
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As a man who has seen both sides of the fence and doesn't agree: I don't agree. And there are plenty of men like me, trust me. You may not want to acknowledge their existence because it goes against your position that you have it absolutely 100% right in a 100% of cases, but it is true. I had tons of casual sex when I was younger, was quite red pill without knowing there was such a thing, and tired of casual sex quite quickly. I really get next to no enjoyment out of it, whereas I find a pretty …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 03:18 PM
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The claim I'm refuting is that all men are into girls between the ages of 18 and 25, not that all men are into women of their own age-group or somewhat lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 06:41 PM
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You're probably not going to like this, but the impression I get from the Red Pill has never been so much "let's objectively assess the short-comings of women" as it has been "let's blame women for all our problems, and pat each-other on the back over how superior we are", to be honest. Always seemed a bit childish to me. It's why I've never taken to it, there's just so much moaning and externalizing of blame. But then of course, I'm in a very happy relationship with a woman who is considerably …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 03:20 PM
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Even if you don't remove the "np." you can still vote and comment. It'll just pop up a box reminding you to please not take part, which I'm pretty sure almost everyone ignores..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 11:20 AM
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Of the three times they cite evidence, they only actually give evidence in one of the three cases, and the "evidence" provided is a another blogpost, this one about the numbers of women and men who work for the NHS and/or attend medical school, and how long they stay in their jobs. They make a number of admittedly cute comparisons with fine wine and whiskey and whatnot, but don't provide any hard science, or really any science at all, just home-made analogies, metaphors and claims based on psych…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 10:43 AM
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It's supposed to prevent people taking part in the thread linked to, though it doesn't necessarily work, as you might imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 10:27 AM
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he cougar fantasy appeals to low SMV men tired of pursuing women because the fantasy is of a reasonably attractive woman who actually pursues and seduces them. When I met my girlfriend I was 22 and she was 27, and trust me, it was me doing the pursuing and seducing, not her. She was gorgeous, funny and smart as hell, and I wanted her badly. It wasn't because she was a "cougar" (she was only 27 at the time), or because I was tired of pursuing women; I was in my heyday, had no shortage of sexual p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 09:46 AM
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I appreciate you taking the high road after I was, looking back, being a bit of a bitch about it. You're cooling my blood and warming my heart man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 04:56 PM
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Ah, I wasn't aware you're a woman. Now, didn't I say something earlier about you ignoring all my actual points? I'm sure I did... And I still haven't heard an answer to my question... Basically, you've ignored all my points, even after I pointed out TRPers tendency to put the blinders on when confronted with something that goes against TRP, because you couldn't counter them; you've ignored my question from the off, no matter how many times I re-posed it, because you couldn't answer it; the claim…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 04:50 PM
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I'm sure you can understand how it looks when my comments sit at the same score of +1 the whole time with one comment on +2, and then suddenly, at the moment you say something to me, they've all gone to 0's and the 2 has become a 1. Again, not saying it was you, just saying it's a massive coincidence if it wasn't. That's all. It's fine, I don't care about fictional points either, I was just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 04:38 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 04:30 PM
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According to a study by pornhub, the top 3 most used keywords by men when searching porn are "milf", "teen" and "mature", so quite a lot of men are apparently into older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 04:29 PM
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I was talking to /u/homo_homini_lupus, mate. Also, since I notice every comment of mine in this thread has suddenly received a single downvote at the exact moment of your reply just now, I'd like to remind you of rule #5: no downvoting. I'm not saying it was you, just saying it's a very big coincidence if it wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 04:27 PM
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I don't believe anyone's self reported ideologically motivated anomalous behavior. Seems like you believe in making baseless assumptions though. You don't know me. Which ideology exactly is causing me to be sexually attracted to mature women? Because politically and socially I've changed ideologies quite a few times over the course of my life, but my sexual preference for mature women never changed. What does "so many men are attracted to older women" mean? Can you quantify that? Well, for examp…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 04:23 PM
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You haven't addressed my point: it's only a non-SMV based opinion, because you very handily left out the last bit of the quote, where I said I found them to be sexually more attractive. And you still haven't answered the question: If it is an unquestionable fact that women's attractiveness starts to drop at around 23-25, and it is an unquestionable fact that men want young women, why are so many men attracted to older women? You've ignored all the actual points, and instead you've chosen to make…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 04:01 PM
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Also, it's a non-SMV based opinion, because you very handily left out the last bit of the quote, where I said I found them to be sexually more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 03:43 PM
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I wouldn't cross the street to talk to a younger girl in hopes of getting her, because I'm not attracted to younger girls. My spontaneous male sexual attention repeatedly and consistently only goes out to women around 30-35. And you haven't answered my question: If it is an unquestionable fact that women's attractiveness starts to drop at around 23-25, and it is an unquestionable fact that men want young women, why are so many men attracted to older women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 03:19 PM
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I think there are some valid points to TRP in terms of social interactions between people, and certainly plenty of good tips on picking up women and dating women, although one could learn those same lessons from plenty of pre-existing sources. What it promotes beyond that, in terms of actual relationships, is toxic in my opinion. How it describes women "ought to be" or "should be trained to be" doesn't resonate with me at all, in fact it turns me off hugely. What TRP describes as "the ideal" is …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 03:14 PM
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If it is an unquestionable fact that women's attractiveness starts to drop at around 23-25, and it is an unquestionable fact that men want young women, why are so many men attracted to older women? Personally I don't much go for girls under 25. I find they have a tendency towards childishness and being a bit irritating in their lack of maturity. Older women are, in my opinion, considerably better company, more mature and interesting people, and, to me anyway, more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 03:04 PM
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As a member of the scientific community I'm always suspicious of numbers that are cited without context. What study, precisely, are these people referring to? What was the sample size, was any matching done on income, etc, and how precisely was happiness determined? Usually they don't want to provide that information because it would tip off the viewer that this study was probably not as scientific as they're making it out to be. Anyone who doesn't suffer from confirmation bias hears numbers or …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 01:13 PM
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That's what I'm saying though. My original niggle was because you said "people don't work out, and they think that's fine." my point was that you don't have to work out (by working out, I would mean going to the gym/working out in your homegym) to be healthy, and it can certainly be "fine" not to work out. Either way, the main point I think we agree on would be: don't treat your body in an unhealthy way, be it through not doing enough, or doing too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 04:08 PM
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But plenty of exercise can also be gotten without working out. And working out too much can be harmful in cases. I think you're best off in general, health-wise, getting the necessary amount of exercise, which can be achieved with a bit of working out, or just living a very active lifestyle. I know plenty of people who don't work out at all who are perfectly healthy, simply because they don't stuff themselves full of junk-food, and they don't sit on the couch all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 03:40 PM
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You'd be surprised how many people are pussies and don't work out. And don't even do anything about it because they think it's fine. I don't understand. Are you saying it's "wrong"/being a pussy for a person not to work out? Because I think "must work out" is an odd thing to consider conditional to being "good". I work out a lot because I have to maintain a certain physique for sporting purposes, I certainly don't do it because I think working out a lot is in and of itself a good thing to do. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 03:16 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/ess6W8Q.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 11:10 AM
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That looks like a very interesting read. Completely fails to address any of the points I raised, but thank you for the recommendation either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 07:29 PM
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That makes no sense. Surely the men of today were born into this "new culture", (I reject the notion of your new culture, I simply see humanity progressing through trial-and-error as it has done for thousands upon thousands of years), raised with it and require no adapting. Are you saying that in the supposed "old culture" which was "male lead" men were not trying to get as much sex as possible? Because I can assure you they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 06:04 PM
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I thought OP meant the men she has dated/had relationships with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 05:34 PM
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Good on you for coming out the other end relatively unscathed. And so quickly! It took me five of the most miserable years of my life before realizing that all the while TRP telling me that "as long as I keep following TRP I'll stop feeling this shitty and my life will improve" was in fact the reason my life was not improving. I dropped TRP with some helpful advice from a friend, and now I literally have nothing left to desire in life, I'm actually happy. There are some good things to TRP and I …
/r/ExRedPill28/10/14 05:20 PM
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It's a complicated question, because traditionally speaking the "nice guy" stereotype pertains to guys who approach women and get shot down, whereas the girl you're describing is complaining about what the guys who approach her are like, rather than complaining about guys she approaches always turning her down, so they're not 100% comparable. Of course the complaints are roughly similar, and equally irritating in both examples. That being said, I've known some girls who complain about how "all g…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 05:13 PM
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But that's what I'm saying though. Anyone can assert anything and anyone can be wrong.. "Anyone" includes you, so the "I'll be the one who decides what everyone is and is not" will be as inaccurate for you to use as it would be for anyone. If you say "I believe the workers should control the means of production, in the abolishment of private property, from each accordign to his abilities to each according to their needs and teh revolution of the proletariat" and then say "I am a Capitalist" you …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 02:58 PM
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But someone could just as easily claim you to be "of the one" or "of the other" based on their interpretation of the opinions you assert, and you could disagree with them and say you are not "of that side", but are in fact "of the other side". The hypothetical opponent in question could then simply say "I will determine what side you are of, because I don't give a fuck what liars self-identify as", and you would think that's some shitty logic for them to employ, because you would know their conc…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 02:14 PM
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I will determine who is of left, Well, that's one way to shut yourself off from reality and create one of your own in which you're always right.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 12:35 PM
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Redpillers are a bit like bible-thumpers, they love to talk about how they live by it but don't you dare try to identify them with the things the philosophy they adhere to actually promotes, because you don't get to pick and choose which bits are and which bits are not "really TRP", only they get to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 12:29 PM
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Wow, you sure know how to take a joke. Light-hearted quip referencing TRPers switching back and forth on what TRP is all about depending on what suits them best in the context at hand, is met with multi-paragraph rebuttal accusing me of all sorts of things based on nothing but your assumptions. You must be very confident in yourself. Well, I feel it's only fair that I get a similar opportunity. Do your philosophies generally tell you how to breathe? TRP is not a philosophy for life. It is a disc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 07:57 PM
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do they confirm your beliefs? No, and therefore they are feminazi lies and not to be trusted!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 05:23 PM
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Of course you wouldn't go to TRP for financial or career or workout advice. Does it ask you to? Is there any resources within it for that purpose? What happened to "TRP is a philosophy for life, it's all about general self-improvement"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 05:21 PM
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There is no blue pill answer, because there is no blue pill. The Blue Pill itself is something Redpillers came up with. The bluepill subreddit is, to quote its sidebar, "a satire of /r/TheRedPill and the strategies discussed on that particular sub". The "get fit, start making some money for yourself and try not to be an uninteresting person" bit is general life-advice that anyone can agree with and no one opposes. The only way you could think that this is TRP stuff that non-TRPers disagree with …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 05:16 PM
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so /r/theredpill[3] and /r/thebluepill[4] shouldn't be seen as two contrasting ideologies so much as one strategy and set of beliefs about the world and another group that satirizes and disagrees with it. This is something people really need to learn to understand. So often I see comments on TRP of people talking about how "you never hear about people saying how taking the blue pill has helped them" or "The blue pill view of the world is such and such". There is no blue pill version of the matte…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/14 07:07 PM
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Have you ever read the "field reports"? About two thirds of them are so obviously made up it's hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/14 06:43 PM
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Women are always talking about how they like big dicks so it's like taking a giant ass Dick if they just thought about it like that it wouldn't be such a big deal you feel me I don't really feel this needs anything added to it.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/14 08:34 PM
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She did. I saw it after it was removed, it looked exactly like the one I had two years earlier. Hurts like a bitch, but the way you talk about it makes it seem like you're the one being, to put it in retarded terms: "overdramatic like shut up bitch you love that feel"
/r/TheRedPill15/10/14 08:21 PM
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I saw my girlfriend walk with kidney stones for a day and a half while we were on holiday, she is one of the hardest women out there and not a singe tear. During childbirth, she was screaming in complete and utter agony and pain.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/14 07:19 PM
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Of course you support each other, you're partners. The point I'm making is that a romantic relationship shouldn't be like a parental relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 07:50 PM
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Basically I meant that the relationship between a father and his daughter, i.e. provider of guidance, caretaker etc. is definitely not the kind of relationship I want with a partner. I can't be with someone I can't respect as a person, and a fully grown-up woman who feels she needs a man (or indeed anyone) for guidance in life is someone I would have a hard time respecting as an adult. Edit: It's a different situation if they're actually going through some shit with which they need help. Anyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 06:57 PM
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Very dignified response.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 06:48 PM
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That's the second time now you've put words in my mouth. I let it go the first time..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 06:26 PM
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I don't know what your vows said, but that's fucked up.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/14 05:58 PM
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What do you think it means when a dad gives his daughter away at her wedding? It means marriage is based on a disgusting ancient concept that we should have moved away from centuries ago, where the woman is basically an object given up by the man who previously "owned her" to the man who will from there on out "own her", in exchange for an amount of cattle considered to be of equal value to the object in question, by people back then/TRP men today. the responsibility of care and guidance from a …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 05:56 PM
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Over. half. of. rape. allegations. were. PROVED. false. The Indian court system is a complete joke. I know you really, really want to believe this (I'd google the phrase "confirmation bias"), but no data from a country as comically corrupt as India is reliable, and no grown man would think these numbers plausible, especially any grown man who knows how Indian society shits on women every chance it gets.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/14 02:44 PM
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Do you not critically think about data you find lying around the internet? I strongly doubt that he does. Have you looked around this sub?
/r/TheRedPill12/10/14 02:39 PM
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You've clearly never been to India. Have you seen the Indian police? They are INSANELY corrupt and constantly abuse their powers. Plus Indian culture is pretty fucked up in its treatment of women in general. Essentially any his word vs her word situation is ruled in favour of the man, which is as unfair as when it happens the other way around.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/14 02:35 PM
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That's not how consent works. It's not "you put your signature on this piece of paper, I get to fuck you whenever I feel like it".
/r/TheRedPill12/10/14 02:30 PM
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If you read on TRP, there is a lot of discussion on the father/daughter relationship dynamic for relationships. This is the one I strive for. Dude... no. That's digusting. The last thing I would want my girlfriend to see me as is a father figure, and the very last thing I want to think of her as is as a daughter. You might want to talk to a professional of some sort about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 02:24 PM
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I came here originally for the self-improvement element the people here will all jump at the chance to tell people is "what this sub is all about", after a few days I realized what it's actually about (and understood why they wouldn't want to blatantly put that out there) and realized the TRP philosophy is based on the minds of 16-year olds, an incredible stack of pseudo-science, and the most baffling examples of confirmation bias just coming in one after the other. I still occasionally check in…
/r/TheRedPill07/10/14 04:49 PM
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You're a 100% correct, but what you've said isn't explicitly anti-women so in this sub it will be downvoted to pieces.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/14 04:17 PM
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It's satire/parody. TBP exists to make fun of TRP, that's all. I don't know much about how it's modded, all I know is its purpose is to laugh at the whole concept of "the red pill".
/r/TheRedPill24/09/14 12:33 PM
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