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I mean, you can just read the thread to realize that I do indeed know this and happen to have a somehow nuanced opinion about it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 04:05 PM
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I think the hottest men at 20 usually look great at 40, even 45. But that's only about 10% of men. The rest lose their hair, get a gut, go grey, get wrinkles or some combination of those. No, that’s actually truer for women than for men. The top women at 20 usually looks great at 40. But for men, aging may rearrange their physical rankings pretty drastically. Balding and other physical changes hit without discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 04:14 AM
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Okcupid had an interesting article pointing out that women whose attractiveness was “controversial” had more success than those whose attractiveness was more universally agreed upon. This is mostly due to men believing the former will be easier to catch. I think this may be what’s happening here.
/r/BlackPillScience06/01/19 04:18 AM
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Europe and America are not that different when it comes to their dating scene. I personally know African American men in the very same situation than me. It’s actually helpful to him to remind him that he should preferably come to his own conclusions instead of blindly following some random advice based of some studies without any more details l.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 04:58 PM
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The others like you black men even less (someone posted some online dating response rate piece here and that's what it showed). Maybe try latinas. Don't even bother with white or asian girls. I’m Black and I’ve had way more success with white and Asian girls than with black girls. Granted, I do not live in America, but still. It all depends on many many other factors, using statistics like these to make these points is not helpful at all in he absence of more details about the guy and a breakdow…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 11:45 PM
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It’s not rocket science: let it be 2 similar groups. Let’s give an innate or social advantage to 1 one of the groups in a particular endeavor. The result will be that the group with the advantage will be overepresented in this area. Can members of the not advantaged groups still succeed in this domain? Sure. But statistics will skew toward the other one. Basic logic (one of men’s strong suits to be fair). As for your grudge, I mean, let’s just take a peek in your post and comment history.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 10:21 PM
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Yeah, what world do they live in where dating at this height is ludicrous? That’s what happen when you spend too much time reading this crap
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 07:27 AM
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No one is born with several dates either and yet somehow women can get them more easily. No one is born with a math textbook and yet men are the majority of math students. Don’t you understand how sometimes social dynamics influence things like that? Whatever grudge you hold against men is troubling your reflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 07:06 AM
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Sure, and men are also stronger than women because they seek it, I guess. Let’s all invent our own little stupid story to guess why
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 12:30 AM
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That’s sort of what the comment I was replying to implied though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 06:14 PM
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I’m not being pedantic for the sake of it sublime, it’s an important distinction in the context: Women are not any wiser than men because they have a wider social circle. They don’t acquire this circle by strategizing about their future mental health. They may leverage it better than men, but still, it’s just a parameter in this case. And so, male suicide’s high rate is not due to men’s lack of strategy but to the parameter that they have a usually much smaller social circle to fall back when th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 04:57 PM
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It is not a strategy. It’s a parameter. Like being rich is a parameter in being healthy or not, not a strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 04:48 PM
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Of course. But when you look at the macro picture, significant differences will appear and that mean that elements will prevent some people to realize some things. Getting a date is up to you. But the reason why women can get one more easily than men isn’t that they somehow make better choices, they just happen to be favored in this particular pursuit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 02:16 PM
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How does it even make sense. Not everything is up to choice, that’s the point. Thats what différence mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 02:09 PM
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I think we will have to agree to disagree here. Social circle isn't something that passively happens to someone. You go out there and build it up so that when you need something there's people there who like you and want to support you, and you do the same for them. I see this is a preemptive step women take for their emotional health that men don't. No. A good comparaison would be wealth. Men are richer than women and they will probably stay so for quite some time. Money is not something you pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 01:49 PM
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Because you think having the occasional cry at work is worse emotional management than punching holes in the wall? You’re the one making useless comparaisons. Punching holes and crying at work does not even indicate the same emotion. Men are more likely to do the first and women the last because of their innate biological difference, not some kind of super wisdom. Yes, that is part of emotional management. No. Having a large social circle is not part of emotional management. It’s just a factor a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 01:40 PM
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No. There are countless thorough studies on suicide, no need to invent your own moralistic bullshit about how women are somehow better at managing their mental state. Women have a bigger social circle than men and that’s the main reason why they deal better. Men tend to kill themselves following a breakup / divorce or a loss of job (including things like coming back from war). And the sudden reduction of their social circle is often what lead them to off themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 01:26 PM
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By the time she will start to get bored, you probably will have cooled off too, so it’s usually not that bad. I don’t predict a great relationship to whoever enters one seriously worrying about this, to be honest. As long as you know your boundaries and are firm when it comes to applying them, nothing’s really risky, just moderately disagreeable
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 02:05 AM
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Develop side projects to showcase your abilities. Education alone don’t determine status, you can bypass it with cool and productive hobbies
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 01:55 AM
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It was a tongue in cheek remark, don’t read too much into it. But there’s definitely a dick contest going on about appearing as the most sexually successful person, as if that gave more weight to their arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 01:52 AM
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Not very high, I’m afraid. It does not take contentement into account
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 08:19 PM
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All attacks on PPD guys are different versions of “virgins lol”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 05:31 PM
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You’re gonna be disappointed chief
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 03:43 AM
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Yes. Yes yes yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 03:34 AM
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They could use their phones / a private browser. Their work machine is not a much better choice
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 02:57 PM
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Good point. The biggest porn consumers are probably less likely to work 9-5s. But still, that’s when you would expect people to be the busiest and the less likely alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 10:53 PM
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Because that’s when most people are at home, where you might think they watch porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 10:50 PM
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Sure, but you could expect more watch time at night or in the early morning
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 10:48 PM
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Precisely. I wrote about it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 10:28 PM
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Interesting article, thanks. Your edit says what I meant: it might be around, but there isn’t any notion of this idea of “toxic femininity” which is accepted by “mainstream feminists”. “Antifeminists” are not a block. It comprises the most misogynistic people alongside people who aren’t bigoted but simply have qualms about the standard feminist narrative. It’s tempting to dismiss any critic as coming from some entitled man baby, but that’s not the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 01:18 AM
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The mainstream has a singular opinion. The population in general haven’t. “Mainstream” is what could be said at the Oscars as a joke. You won’t hear many anti-feminist jokes or whatever there. But it’s not necessarily representative of the most common opinions. I have yet to read any mention of anything resembling “toxic feminism” in feminist activism. The closest thing might be the backlash against white women after the whole Kavanaugh thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 12:10 AM
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PPD is not representative of the general population. The mainstream opinion you’ll read on social media and see on TV wont be nuanced. Anti slut shaming activists clearly think men are the main perpetrators and that women are collectively just appalled and passive. I’m not saying they’re being persecuted or whatever, I’m just stating something pretty obvious to anyone considering it with good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 11:53 PM
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You mean like they take “men are often culpable” and extrapolate thesis statement like “Men - but not women - seek to actively punish sexualiser women”? Because that’s the most popular extrapolation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 11:31 PM
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I wonder how such a basic, obvious truth has now become controversial. And how long will it last.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 08:14 PM
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was only laid a few times You’re 18, that’s already pretty good
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 08:11 PM
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Some men actually got an innate understanding of RP principles. But for a lot of us, we had to learn. Or rather unlearn our past assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 12:21 AM
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The thing about the “find out the truth” part is that it is more often about finding the truth about yourself. Red pillers who discover red pill theory realize they were naive idiots all along and that their past behavior is embarrassing. It would be like walking into politics thinking that integrity alone can assure you success. You’re in for a rude awakening.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 12:05 AM
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Lol they do say that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 06:32 PM
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Irrelevant. The opportunity for a romantic relationship doesn't make up for all of the women that said no before her. Besides, putting clear restrictions on how far a man can go won't eliminate courtship altogether. Nothing can do that. See? That was the original point. You consider that a woman having to say “no” is an offense to her but if she’s into it, it’s fine. You cannot write a law with foundations that shaky. And it won’t happen, obviously, it’s just disturbing that some people think it…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 06:12 PM
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Approaching women is not harassment. It may be depending on the situation, but when it is, it’s already punished by the law. That’s how most of your ancestors met. That’s how so much couples today met. Not everything has to be legislated. There are already implicit rules for approaching people respectfully. That’s what appear dystopian to me and many, not the fear of being accountable or whatever fantasy your projecting by intellectual laziness. Or let’s also ban asking for money in any forms be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 05:08 PM
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Preventing wrongdoings = necessary to a functioning society. Taking steps to prevent theoretical uncomfortable situations = dystopian. Arguing seriously that hitting on women should be illegal belongs to the 2nd category
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:47 PM
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Yes. This attempt of making the world a sterile controlled space is honestly dystopian.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 03:38 PM
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Tbh, that’s sort of cherry picking the craziest exemples of the other side. Feminists could also choose to only show the craziest MRA opinions, but that’s just not a very honest debate method
/r/MensRights23/12/18 07:59 PM
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Do you also accuse women bashing men all day on social media of being simply frustrated bigots or are you just doing this bit where you try to shame people for having opinions that you don’t like?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 12:33 PM
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Yeah it’s just sad
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 10:10 PM
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Men don’t end up in TRP because they blame themselves. That’s more r/menslib shtick. TRP is about dissecting human behavior in order to maximize your own satisfaction. It’s populated by relatively rude, egotistical men. Sounds like something a psychopath could appreciate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 09:23 PM
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This is really, really far from the truth
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/12/18 09:19 PM
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I mean, psychopaths are often “charming”, as in superficially endearing but let’s not caricature them as some super attractive lone wolves. A lot of them have difficulties dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 08:30 PM
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It’s like the similarities between having sex and jacking up to porn through a screen. In the case of cam girls, men get satisfaction from seeing her thrive financially and buy fancy things in the same way husbands are happy to spoil their wife sometimes. Men tend to like to assume a providing role and for a lot of them, giving to a can girl is the closest they can get to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 01:34 AM
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Some do. But most just get a kick out of being a provider. They’re the first generation to not overwhelmingly provide for their family, so it’s a substitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 12:31 AM
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...Dude... Er... I have a feeling nothing productive will be said from now on so let’s just save us some time and mental energy :)
/r/PussyPass18/12/18 10:47 PM
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Literally all the groups cited have members in jail. These people named their son Adolf, bought manuals about making bombs and had started acting on their plan to create a “race war”. I’d say the are more than quirky neighbors
/r/PussyPass18/12/18 09:56 PM
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In the UK where this story happens, like in most western countries (it’s also true in the US for some groups under certain circumstances) you can be imprisoned for being part of certain groups. Like these ones . It happens very, very often.
/r/PussyPass18/12/18 09:39 PM
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For a boy, teach him not to get overly attached to any girl before a sufficient period of time, realize there are plenty of options and that getting rejected 100 times and succeeding 1 is actually good. I’d tell him to not moralize dating. Not to cry over a girl. Not to take it too seriously in general. For a girl, teach her that the attention she will get from men is powerful but she shouldn’t make it the basis of her worth. It should only be a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 08:35 PM
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Totally opposite experience here. Only on Internet do I see people using the term sarcastically. In real life, people use nice guy to mean an overly pleasant, non assertive male.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 08:23 PM
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No, because they organized with the aim of acting on these beliefs. Same way you won’t go to jail for having radical Islamic opinions but you might if you form a group with the aim of doing actions related to these beliefs.
/r/PussyPass18/12/18 07:11 PM
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Honestly, this may be the less bitter online place you may find. Anything else would be private conversations. This is a pretty sensitive topic which concerns everybody, of course there’s gonna be bitterness
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 12:18 AM
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It’s Atlas, she’s being ironic
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 11:03 PM
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It’s called “games” but really, it’s a complex sort of social dance every species plays. Dating obviously isn’t as simple as “u like me - i like you”. Not sure what you want girls to do? Some of them sucks at giving clues, but hey
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 11:02 PM
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You deleted your rant but that certainly wasn’t a regular libertarian rant. “Classical liberal minus Christianity” doesn’t make a lot of sense, except if (and I suspect it is your case) you came upon the term through J Peterson. And btw, this only confirms my first post - that the left nourishes classical liberals more than right wingers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 10:58 PM
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Yep. We’re on the same page here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 06:14 PM
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Of course, but the whole point of this game is to let a few ambiguous clues slip to indicate your interest. If a girl don’t signal this, non-clingy men will look elsewhere, as their success rate is slim and their best strategy is to continuously look for new interesting girls until they succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 05:42 PM
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Cmon. You’re regurgitating the standard right wing discourse without any nuance whatsoever. You’re not “pushed to the right”. You’re a right winger. One could easily make an equally bland comment tackling the right. Many people, myself included, are very critical of progressive’s (which is a better term than left in this case) blind spots and political choices without being any more attracted to the right wing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 08:21 PM
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No. The left stubbornness nourishes this weird, unstable alt center with classical liberals. You going from libertarian to right winger is just one of the most common transition, so much so that it is basically a meme. Or are you somehow pushed a bit more to the left each time you witness something bigoted too? No. Because that doesn’t make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 07:23 PM
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You’re being overly caricatural. And, counter intuitively, women in these countries are often overall even more conservative than men. Not that it justifies anything, but it means things aren’t as simple as you seem to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 10:39 AM
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...No it isn’t...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 07:09 AM
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But, beards are masculine. That’s literally one the most masculine thing. Their attractiveness varies with time, but still
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 11:19 PM
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Nah, that doesn’t make sense. There’s nothing special about 2015 in this regard. I mean, it was only 3 years ago. I’d believe Tinder and co gaining in popularity is more to blame than porn
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 06:21 AM
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Still, it wouldn’t explain a sudden change in 2015
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 06:02 AM
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Porn wasn’t invented in 2015
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 02:36 AM
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Very good post, lot of information, thank you. Nothing too surprising, however. We’re seeing the same pattern everywhere: a concentration of sex among a minority of men, a rising proportion of men left behind, and a slow increase in sexual experiences among women. As for the decrease in infidelity, I think it’s similar to the decrease in divorce among millennials in America, in that it’s due to the fact that while people are less likely to choose to establish a traditional relationship, the ones…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 02:00 AM
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Well, it’s nice while it lasts and it might very well be forever, it’s just less common than for previous generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 12:11 AM
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Monogamy =/= forever relationships. It just means one is exclusive to a partner for a “long time” period. This is still the norm. It just happen that people marry later and divorce more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 10:13 PM
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Hitting people we don’t like with big rocks is also part of our nature, doesn’t mean we have to unleash all our “natural” instincts. Monogamy sure is different right now that it was for our grandparents, but there’s a reason why it has been the standard human being mating combination during our most productive eras in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 09:58 PM
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Women were still very dependent on men back then. The sexual market didn’t look like what it is right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 07:01 PM
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Interesting. Never thought about it.
/r/MensRights08/12/18 01:21 PM
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There are people actually dying from hunger in poor Indian regions, and yet activists focus on some American kid going on vacation. The very reason feminists don’t attack Islam as much as they could is because they don’t want to align themselves with what they consider bigots. It’s pretty obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 09:21 PM
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It’s like asking why people concerned with poverty aren’t exclusively focused on poor Indian regions
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 09:15 PM
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Women absolutely do care what everyone thinks about them. Even more so than men. That comes in a bundle with the superior social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 12:13 AM
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You’re actually right, the world looked away for a long time while lot of people came forward with their complaints. Still, my point stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 10:41 PM
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The Babe dot net article signaled this isn’t about women harassment anymore but women feelings and saccharine, binary, moral Puritanism. Literally nobody would be mad about aggressors having to meet justice. But when the definition of aggressors is subject to women slightest emotions and black and white thinking start to add up to mob justice, it’s crazy to believe that men are going to sit here passively in such a hostile environment
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 03:10 AM
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Spot on. Roissy is failed edgy commentator, Roosh is a joke and Rollo is fairly interesting and a good writer overall. Hopefully he don’t join the rabid commentators path, but what I’ve seen, he seems to consciously and purposefully avoid it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 10:24 PM
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Noticeable people are always more sexually successful than unnoticed ones
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 07:53 PM
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Gender clash movement provokes gender relationship degradation. Wow. There’s gonna be more
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 07:47 PM
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Women treat sex as some sort of prize, putting it on a pedestal. Society seems to as well. Whereas men don't complicate it as much, women seem to make it a dumb cat and mouse game. As in, they often shit test men and make them jump through a bunch of hoops just to get it. Why they must make it so complicated when they love sex so much is beyond me. Men treat sex as a prize and validation precisely because it is scarce. And yeah, women do like sex, but with the right kind of men, whatever this me…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 11:06 PM
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That’s a bit of a No True Scotsman fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 12:10 AM
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Good points.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 11:58 PM
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I think there is a profound conflict between an ideology’s need to be effective and it’s need to be moral. I feel like the less good aspects of progressive ideology stem from the need to fight against reactionaries with their own weapons. The issue is that, to me and many others, the mainstream progressive project for gender equality and the relationship between the sexes does not seem appealing anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 11:57 PM
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It’s good. And it’s not contradictory. It basically prevents you from obsessing over a woman who rejected you. The message is: you need to work to keep her, but if she leaves, you’ll be fine too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 11:51 PM
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That’s why I made a distinction between TRP as a set of rules about human sexual behavior and TRP as a social phenomenon of reactionary guys. Income inequality is actually irrelevant to TRP unless we’re talking about its effect on sexual dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 10:32 PM
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To me, toxic masculinity is enforcing standards on men that restrict the types of emotions they can express, or their interests, or even their sexuality (especially because in some of communities, masculinity specifically gets tied to how well a man does with women). Exactly. My point is that progressives somehow don’t see when they are guilty of this. Progressives do mock virgin men, or men insecure about their height (imagine mocking women insecure about their weight). But because they do this…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 09:23 PM
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See, you would think so, but...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 08:29 PM
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There is no such thing as a matriarchy. It’s a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 08:27 PM
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I feel like part of the story is the need to reassure themselves about their attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 08:08 PM
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It’s quite literally your first sentence. And then you called me a non-neurotypical 2 times. Also, there’s not a single reason women lie. That’s the whole point. That’s what my first comment expressed. Im not joking when I’m saying that your aggressive dickish tone is the best argument for the “backlash theory”. Like, dude, chill?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 08:04 PM
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You literally flipped out at my comment like the manchildren you were talking about. Like, I politely made a point you don’t even seem to disagree with, in the end, and you called me autistic 3 times? I get it now, I would definitely lie to avoid men like you yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 07:38 PM
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Take a break off Reddit my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 12:00 AM
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Exactly. Sexual tension does not invalidate a friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 09:48 PM
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That's exactly what I'm saying. You sound like a red piller larping as a woman. You'll get better at it eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 09:03 PM
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They also complain about when they are asked if they know where the car keys are. Women aren't a block. They are not evil nor angelic. Their eventual bad behavior cannot always be justified by external pressure. Women flip out too. Granted, it's usually not as dangerous as for men, but you're depicting a world full of composed, honorable women and violent dumb men. Maybe the truth is somehow more complex, idk?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 08:59 PM
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Nah, it’s ok, after reading a bit I’m most definitely sure you’re at least playing a character
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 08:38 PM
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You were wholly ready to argue "women do it for no reason" instead of applying nuance. Don’t you see the irony here? I’m the one who recognize they are multiple reason to this phenomenon while you’re hellbent on proving women only reason for ghosting is to avoid violence. Really, read our comments again and come tell me I’m the one lacking nuance here. I mean, ffs, you literally just said “why women ghost” like there’s a single reason. Either you’re not arguing in good faith or something makes y…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 08:29 PM
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I genuinely don’t think you’re a woman. Your comment history sounds like an incel’s idea of modern women to a degree beyond parody.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 08:24 PM
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Oof.. Ok, here we go: The fact that you said "of course men are prone to flipping out" as though it is normal, and should not be considered as wrong or concerning says a lot. You're interpreting this statement in the least charitable way possible, because it is convenient for you to believe I'm a ignorant misogynist instead of just a dude with a different opinion. What I meant by that is that I do not deny this reality and the fact a large portion of men do actually flip out, yes. Why on Earth w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 08:06 PM
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Of course a lot of men are prone to flipping out. Of course, the safer way to handle them is often to ignore them. That’s not the point discussed here, though. And while everybody is free to act in relationships as it suits them, let’s not pretend ghosting is more often a brave act of self preservation than simply an unwillingness to deal with slightly uncomfortable situations at the expense of the ghosted person. It’s 2018, you can reject people at distance, the vast majority of women are safe …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 06:50 PM
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It’s not to avoid men flipping out, it’s to preserve their image as pure beings mainly concerned with kindness
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 06:06 PM
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The girl you’re describing does not exactly sound like a catch. You weren’t very good yourself but it might have been for the better. It’s ok, most 17 year old dude are very low value. It’s not the last time this will happen to you, but you’ll learn to process it eventually we’ve all been there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 06:03 PM
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That was a tiny, subtle flex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 07:16 PM
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Gosh what a pompous drama queen
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 03:33 AM
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Very well said. Focusing on them paying their share is also a great way to filter the ones overly interested in ressources.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 03:12 AM
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See. I tried to show you how the world is a bit more nuanced than you perceive but you’re stuck in your epic fight against “sociologists”. There’s more than sociologist and neurologists in science. Neither are studying intelligence primarily. Try to focus and nourish that superior brain of yours, will you? Society can’t afford to lose it, you’re so precious to us you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 03:05 AM
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Its more clearly multicausal, and less speculative
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 02:38 PM
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He did say that didn’t it? I’m not imagining things? Ok? “Landlords control access to appartements” is a correct statement but does not indicate one feels entitled to anything. K and what would you and he like the universe do about that? He’s just talking about it. You’re the one getting hysterical over a random mention of sexual dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 05:51 AM
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There is no need for a justification. It’s just an empirical phenomenon, it’s amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 05:31 AM
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I hate simplistic natural fallacies, but that’s kind of “”what nature intended””. This dynamic is supposed to make men compete harder, which yields benefits for the species as a whole. That’s the reason why you find more men at the top. It makes more of a difference for them than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 05:28 AM
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Cmon Problem: can’t get sex. Solution: Do what you need to get sex. r/thanksimcured Where exactly did he imply somebody owed him sex? Let’s stop with the entitlement thingy, it does not mean anything anymore. Getting sex is somehow different and arguably harder for random guys than chocolate milfs, poppy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 05:23 AM
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You’re partly right but you’re exaggerating. Of course women have an easier time getting sex than ever before. Of course dating apps and new social conventions are clearly funnier and more productive for women than men. It’s not even close. But still, women don’t have the power you believe they have and men actually have MORE occasions to have sex than before. They still don’t, and the reasons for this are complex. If you’re relatively new to TRP and stuff, that’s normal to go through a phase wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 05:11 AM
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Chances are he uses them. It don’t replace sex, though, it merely makes the urge go away for a while
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 05:00 AM
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Well, it’s up to guys to increase their standards. Women don’t choose how many guys will be willing to fuck them. Not sure what you don’t get here
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 04:49 AM
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Because many guys will fuck anything? That’s on us.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 04:31 AM
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Do you think if a man has access to sex one night he's gonna choose video games over that? In general, no. It’s not like men get a choice of either sex or entertainment. It’s that entertainment decrease the serendipity which make people meet each other. 3h playing video games means 3h not going out with your friends. So all the people one could have met during those social events never appear, and are themselves busy with entertainment. If you’re bored, you get out more. If you get out more, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 04:21 AM
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That kind of post is the very reason I do not call myself a red piller. You’re extrapolating way too much from concepts that are sound (hypergamy, etc.), but more complex than you make them seem. “Ok” guys do get laid. Do standards for men have increased? Yes, without any doubt. But that’s only a minor part of the story. Most likely, the bulk of this phenomenon is due to the increase of entertainment and decrease in physical interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 03:09 AM
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Typical fake expert comment. The money spent on under performing schools isn’t spent to “fix intelligence” you dummy, go read some reports about what it’s trying to achieve and when it does and doesn’t manage to do it. Neurologists aren’t the ones concerned with intelligence. Just because they’re concerned about the brain doesn’t mean they’re the ones studying intelligence the most lol. I could go on on your stats and other things, but more than a debate I just want to remind people reading this…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 01:34 AM
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But remember, any suspicion of slut shaming will send you to feminist Hell
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 04:53 AM
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Ow snap, I didn’t read this, sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 08:37 PM
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Interesting to learn that the 15% of women who met their SO through work are victims akin to drunk driving victims
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 10:46 AM
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There are 2 main reason I can think of: Without delving into cliches, men are somehow more stoic than women, less emotionally expressive and socially dexterous, which limit their ability to connect with other people compared to women at least. People typically (as in usually, not always) associate more easily with people of their own gender but group composed of only men have less reach and way less network than women only groups or mixed ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 07:17 AM
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Women in general would rather be single than dating men they consider below them. It’s neither bad nor good, it just how it is. And those girls who are checking out usually have strong friendships and access to sex, they just skip over the stereotypical monogamous relationship model
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 06:10 AM
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Lol, no it isn’t. 15% of couples met at work alone. And many more met in a situation you would describe as not ok. That’s what’s reality is like.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 05:48 AM
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You’re ignoring the main point. What makes its ok is whether or not it’s appreciated, it’s a catch-22.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 05:33 AM
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Nope, they just happen to have a easier time making friends. It’s not 1846 anymore, nobody expect women to be married at 20 and whatever kind of pressure exist for them to find a mate, also exists for men to avoid being seen as a looser
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 05:24 AM
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All these behaviors do lead to relationships when women happen to enjoy it. When she’s also into the guy pursuing her at work or chatting her up in the subway, it magically becomes ok
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 05:20 AM
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And what, pray tell, are these sources? Not trying to come across like a dick, I'm being seroius. I have literally never seen any evidence whatsoever that there is innate behavior for anything other than very basic shit like fight or flight response and feeling good when you defecate. I do not believe in evopscyh whatsoever and I have a huge problem with it, its tenuous and usually used to justify prejudice and social-power norms. That’s the 3rd time I have to defend eco psych today, which annoy…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 11:58 PM
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... I don’t know, at some point... if you’re unable to see that there’s a societal cost to being a male virgin you’re hopeless. Even hardcore feminists try to spin this around saying that this is because of the patriarchy or some bullshit but they don’t deny that this is a very real thing. You’re so involved in your world view of men having it easy and women having it hard that you can’t see what everyone is seeing. What used to be called folk wisdom. No need to go far, just check the Wikipedia …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 10:09 PM
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Interesting sources, thanks. This is an interesting counter argument, but I’m still not convinced, it seems a bit light in front of the evidence for innate height preference. There is also the evidence that only about half of women care that much, with a staggering 1.5% (which is higher than it seems at first) actively peffering smaller men even in our own heightist society. Only half? Seems like a lot! Like, that’s 1/2 of the female population and I guess it varies by age too. And 1.5% percent …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 09:51 PM
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If this was socialization alone, there would arguably be a few societies in which the opposite would be true. I’m not aware of such societies
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 09:31 PM
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Ok, I’m gonna try to be succinct for this one: I think you make the mistake of a lot of feminists, ie, putting morality over reality. Society never change just because. It changes with intentional, organized action in the limit of our human nature. In a perfect world, men and women would be free to do what they want and be whoever they want to be. Such world doesn’t exist however and the one we’re is cold not as pretty. I don’t really care about men and women being different and I dont think it …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 07:43 PM
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Your whole first paragraph talks about celebrities. Celebrities aren’t the norm. Celebrities are a very reliable reflection of society’s attitude. Let me remind you that slut shaming is statistically primarily done by women toward women. It doesn’t make sense in the feminist paradigm, but in the actual correct scientific model of m/f relationship, that’s called intrasexual competition and it makes perfect sense. So once again, one model is way off and the other fits the reality. Will there be ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 07:17 PM
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Only the paranoid survive - Andy Grover
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 06:33 PM
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I think that would heavily depend on what traits we are talking about here. Evolution provides some base impulses from the primal section of the brain, but these can and are overridden all the time by concious behavior. Do you know why more women study science in countries where gender inequality is the greatest (yep, greatest)? That’s because in more gender equal countries, this pressure from society is actually lower and that means gender differences are actually more pronounced. Conscious ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 06:18 PM
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That isn’t true. People past the ages of high school don’t berate virgin men and women who are considered “slutty” are still heavily socially stigmatized. How deluded can one be? It’s ok to be slutty in 2018. It’s empowering. Check out the current pop stars, instagram models, popular movies and viral tweets. No shame whatsoever, it’s almost totally gone. You can express how much you love to suck dick and how many guys you fucked and get book deals . You don’t hear virgin men saying how proud the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 05:49 PM
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Feminists have a problem with the same structure that enables and rewards toxic behavior as you do. It's not contradictory at all. No structure is at the root of this, but rather, millions of year of evolution barely masked by a thin layer of delusion as to why people behave the way they do. For nearly every male behavior that could be defined as feminist friendly, you can show how it negatively impact their chances when it comes to dating, from doing chores in the house to daring to be vulnerab…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 05:07 PM
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Their lack of success isn't due to a lack of feminist virtue, but the critical response to the man's reaction to rejection is due to a lack of feminist virtue. Mood control and stoicism in the face of rejection is one of the main lesson from TRP, I wouldn’t call that feminist virtue. There are countless reasons why I man can't get a particular woman to have sex with them, and I very much doubt that just acting in ordinance with female empowerment is going to get you there. Thus the questions men…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 04:47 PM
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“Normal feminists” aren’t bothered by much else than themselves tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 04:33 PM
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Oh but male sexuality is way more dangerous than female one, I’m not denying this. My main issue is when, in the name of progress, activists feel justified to throw miserable men under the bus, making them believe their lack of success is a lack of feminist virtue (how convenient). The frustration these men feel when they see their asshole misogynistic friends get laid every week or so meanwhile is the very fuel of TRP and similar movement
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 04:32 PM
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The whole premise of attraction and love is a strong endearment with another person, and the need to be around them, speaking to them, have sex with them, etc... When this attraction in non reciprocal, well, that’s it, the whole thing is legitimately over, but that doesn’t mean people are able to get over it instantly. So they ramble and cry and complain until they feel better. They do not feel “entitled” so much as they feel grief for the idea they had of their relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 04:23 PM
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For exemple: What to think about the romantically & sexually unsuccessful men who follow the feminist manifesto to the letter? What to think about the seemingly contradictory counter exemples of women seeking men who don’t fit the feminist check list for non toxic males over woke ones? Those are innocuous questions in appearance, but their only logical answers would require to either admit there is some inconsistencies in the philosophy or expend some empathy to lonely men. Two impossible choice…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 04:17 PM
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Nobody is arguing this. The entitlement argument is weak because nobody is entitled to anything, deep down. Ok. But that’s not the point. When feminists use it, it’s usually to avoid uncomfortable questions more than as a serious point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 03:16 PM
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:-(
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 02:15 PM
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Un commentaire le mois dernier
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 01:56 PM
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Bien sûr que je sais compatriote
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 01:38 PM
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Ça se tient
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 01:36 PM
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When she commands respect from men he himself respects
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 12:30 PM
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I think that was his point
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 10:21 AM
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Yeah and why are all men giants
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 03:35 AM
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Genes don’t work by “doses” tho
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 03:31 AM
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Sadly not, I have a small diastema!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 02:22 AM
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6’0, Black Guy, with weird feet but nice fingernails. Quite athletic. “Nice guy face” apparently, as in, not scary for a black guy I guess. This guy is the celebrity I’m the more often compared to
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 02:10 AM
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Correct, the effect is smaller in women when it comes to sex drive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 11:19 PM
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This whole “entitlement” thing does not make sense. I don’t see many people arguing that they are owed anything, but rather complaining that they can’t have it, which does not stem from entitlement, just bitterness. If you can’t find a job and complain about it, it does not mean you feel entitled to a job, just that you’d like to find one like most people have.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 10:25 PM
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That’s not how it works: The fact that some carrier of the variation do not have kids does not means that it hurts those who do. These ones actually increase their chances and number of kids, and given the small percentage of chance of those kids become gay, it makes sense that nature wouldn’t select against that variation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 10:15 PM
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I mean, by definition, they are more likely to notice changes when those happens anyway, I guess. I think the men / women treatment thing is interesting but not a solid source, actually, as it is tainted by their own cultural expectorations and their particular relationship with gender. No need to go look too far, there’s plenty of evidence of this difference in treatment and perception in mainstream social science, the trans comments are more an interesting addendum, imo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 10:12 PM
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Here
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 06:23 PM
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There’s an important overlap in certain brain functions (which already prove the m/f difference you were talking about btw), but it does not mean they have the other sex’s brain still. Twin studies show that only about 1/3rd of separately raised twins end up both transgender. It’s high enough to suggest there’s a biological root to it but it also shows there are a lot of other factors beyond that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 05:52 PM
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It’s less TRP’s stance than the average TRPer’s opinion, who tend to be reactionary. Not sure where you read that transgenders have the other sex’s brain but no, that’s not how it works. What is true and interesting however is to look at the data and comments of trans people when the hormones they are administrated modify their behavior. Yes, testosterone pumping in your system actually affect your behavior. So does estrogens and others hormones. It’s not an excuse but it should be taken into ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 05:36 PM
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You're overthinking it. The TRP community is mostly bad because it attracts either miserable, broken men in search for guidance or toxic misogynists, with an overlap. But the main point of TRP is to elucidate human mating behavior and the conclusions of TRP are closer to the truth than those of the mainstream or feminists (which is the same) mantra. To summarize it to basic self-help for socially inept assholes, while not totally unfounded, is way too reductionist. Pop culture and society in gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 05:22 PM
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It’s overrated but nature has its way of fooling us
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 08:47 AM
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I see y’all reading and downvoting in silence you cowards
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 06:20 PM
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I still think you don't understand where I'm coming from. I have 0 problems with the fact that men are the vast majority of perpetrators of sexual assault - it's not even close. I have 0 problems with women having power. But there is no 'epidemic' of sexual assault. There is no 'secret contempt' of men toward women. 1 assault is still too much, but the panic is way out of proportion. The current feminism doxa is to liken male - female relationship to a marxist class struggle model. Two classes, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 03:28 AM
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I think I made it clear that Im talking in averages and trends, but why do you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 10:32 AM
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I already miss that unhinged anti-gay troll from purge week
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 03:37 AM
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Oh but I’m not telling you to stop venting, buddy, vent all night. Just be wary of spiraling into a toxic mindset when venting eventually becomes more comfortable than the pursuit of your own betterment
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 10:34 PM
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Yeah, no, I figured. Well, it sucks but if the rest of your life is ok, there are much worse fates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 10:20 PM
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Lol, chill. Of course ugly guys have a harder time. They still have gfs, not sure why this simple, true affirmation is making you so nervous. It’s tougher for them than for anyone else, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 10:02 PM
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No. Ugly guys have gf too, not the prettiest, less than the others, but still
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 09:29 PM
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Look at his teeth. They are dirty af His nerd glasses / lame shirt combo sucks too. He still won’t be very good looking, but he won’t be off putting anymore either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 08:51 PM
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Both can be true
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 08:44 PM
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The goal of the average dude is to get laid. That’s it. Not getting a relationship or whatever, just getting laid. He will look up how to get to the step where he can undress a chick, and that’s it, level cleared. Because a lot of women are used to this, they lower their expectations and it goes on and on. There are still a decent number of men who care about their partners pleasure. And I think most women don’t necessarily understand what it means to have sex as a guy, the performance aspect of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 08:40 PM
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You and me aren’t talking about the same thing, and given your background that’s not surprising. You think for some reason, I’m attacking your experiences and trying to invalidate them because it makes me feel uncomfortable or whatever when I’m pointing out that while you may be genuine, many aren’t. Ok, remember post 9/11 America? Remember the feeling of unity? Remember the emotions? The interviews of people who lost members of their families? Remember how even progressives didn’t feel like bre…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 01:13 PM
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Didn’t know the idea that being clean is good was controversial 🤔 I didn’t say he will be drowning in bitches once he do that, but he certainly won’t with that level of hygiene, and that’s perfectly normal, yuck
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 05:05 AM
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Yes, that’s the point. He could at least be clean, but nah, he does not bother
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 04:54 AM
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I’m not suggesting that the people I’m talking about are lying about sexual assault. An arguably minor percentage of them are, but it’s not relevant here. But that’s the thing, every critic of MeToo is assimilated to a typical MRA, reactionary thought, because the movement is dogmatic. Is there any internal disagreement in metoo, even mild? No. Because it is not dictated by thoughts, which always results in small disagreements, but by mob feeling, which unite people as a block. MeToo has allowed…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 04:51 AM
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I love this side of his work too, it’s very interesting, nothing revolutionary, but popularizing it is good enough. Still... :-/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 03:31 AM
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Not a woman but good god. You cannot afford to be unkempt when you look like this. Like, this guy should brush his fucking teeth, shave, wear contact and wash those nasty greasy hair. Then only can we talk rating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 10:59 PM
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Probably one of the point I agree with feminists the most is the double standard upon male and female leaders when it comes to anger. I’ve worked with angry women and angry men, but only the women were criticized for it. And yet, what you’re saying is false. Search “Crying Kavanaugh” and come tell me his tantrum was well received. What I said for angry women is also true for crying men. Society does not like it and punish it. Obama was criticized for his tears after that school shooting, so was …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 10:31 PM
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There is a book called Brotopia which mention the power trip of Silicon Valley execs over other people. They were largely mistreated when young, sexual miserable, bullied, etc... Their new status thus infuses them with a sense of limitless power. I’ve seen that myself, ancient loosers looking up the name of people who crossed them as well as people who just denied them things they were actually not owed and enjoying the fact that they seem to have gone farther in life than them. Are social isola…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 08:51 PM
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There are miserable young men besides incels. Your average 15 year old boy wondering about feminism and anti feminism will find an hostile side and a welcoming one. And he won’t be smart enough to see beyond the fact that some people make him feel good about himself and the others do not. It does not have to be like that. “Not all men” is actually valid: if you truly want change, talk to them in a non confrontational, respectful way. Do you think the men who witnessed Mindy Calling graduation sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 08:36 PM
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He’s a perfect mirror image of feminists in regard to hypocrisy, political agenda, mystical bullshiting and fan service. The few eventual good point he advances are not enough to cover this, I have a visceral distrust of opinion peddlers posing as the wise men on the mountain like him
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 08:27 PM
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Not sure what’s your point here. I’m not denying those things nor their effects. You don’t see those guys on TV though, they are outcasts
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 08:15 PM
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As a self-referenced soy boy, you’re probably aware and offended by Trump’s remarks about Mexicans rapists a few years ago, right? Do you think that this avowed sexual predator genuinely care about rapists that much or is he using one of the most historically effective ways to foster outrage (rape claims) for his own benefits? That’s what MeToo is. The grievances are real, and it’s great many women are speaking up. But hidden in the crowd are numerous people who use the unprecedented momentum of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 05:58 PM
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People are actually attracted to this dark side of humanity, hence the popularity of crime dramas and psychopath biographies. But they are indeed self interested and this will pull the breaks on the movement
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 05:14 PM
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It’s still at its apex, but it won’t be forever for sure If I, who used to be a capital F feminist a few years ago and is still progressive, emit doubt, I guess many other will too, at some point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 05:11 PM
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I come from a male only family, we reproduce by meiosis I agree, yeah, I thought you were shaming men who did that. It’s just business as usual
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 03:20 PM
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You can only buy something somebody else sells 🤷🏾‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 03:14 PM
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Feminists do encourage men to adopt this role, very often. Not sure how you missed this. They’re just misguided because the number of women who are looking for an actual SAHF is very low. They think their own upper middle class, militant circle is representative of the whole female population. People still abide by gender norms regarding child rearing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 02:28 PM
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Yep, social skills are the #1 dating advantage. Boy have I seen ugly guys get laid every week just because they happen to be fun to be around
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 02:22 PM
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Cute 🤗
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 02:15 PM
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Great job constantly branding Indian men as unattractive, smelly, boring, weird and just embarrassing to be with. That will definitely improve your status, you guys
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 02:38 AM
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Lol. Go fix your daddy issues in therapy and raise your eventual kids to be better than you. Peace out, “sister” (you’re not a chick lol), I love ya anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 02:20 AM
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Well, one day, we’ll all be wrinkled 35+ And this idea of a “wall” influences this behavior and it’s consequences, if true, results in a pretty interesting new configuration. In other words, it influences youth behavior too, to a degree. It’s not always about helping, sometimes, just understanding is fun enough
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 02:19 AM
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I learned that from the best, your own very daddy 😎 It results in maladjusted kids, but total alpha move tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 02:12 AM
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It’s gonna be tough, but we’ll have to learn to live without you, I guess, random angry black gold digger on Reddit 😢 Our community loses yet another quality member ☹️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 02:05 AM
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As a black men, let me tell you this: Don’t mistake peace for power
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 01:52 AM
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Well, that’s a non trivial part of the debate around sexual behavior, and male bitterness adds to the fuel
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 01:51 AM
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Yep, I agree with all of this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:56 AM
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Model 1: competition between the sexes. Outcome: men win, all the time. Women are objects, they do as they are told. The quality of their lives depends on pure luck, they have no agency. Model 2: synergy between the sexes. Outcome: some kind of balance. Men and women collaborate, try to fix issues between them and try to be a bit empathetic over each other’s situation and struggles. You, personally, don’t have to do shit for men, of course. But once again, you’ll reap what you sowed and meet the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:53 AM
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Objectification of both sexes will never stop. But it’s a gradient, not a switch. If you’re the kind of girl who openly judge men on the size of their wallet and put those kinds of cold criterion for a relationship, you deserve the men who will not consider a women a single digit above their weight preference and will throw you for the better models. There are also people in between who take it into account but don’t fixate on it, and those people are arguably better to be around. It feels less …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:36 AM
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Oh sure, there are always a few hopeless cases
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:30 AM
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S😱R😱S
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:12 AM
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What twisted super hero origin is that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:09 AM
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The state took all my money. 100% tax. An agent preemptively check my posts to verify I do not post hate speech :( It’s hard over here u guys
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:07 AM
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That’s a really good point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:02 AM
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Spot on. Objectify and be objectified
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 11:57 PM
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Male disposability strikes again, alas 😫😢
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 07:03 PM
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Hmmmm... I don’t know about that one chief
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 06:24 PM
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🧐
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:50 PM
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When people ask you about your hobbies, do you mention this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:44 PM
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There are overweight black dudes with bad attitudes too, bro. They can have each other. But yeah, it’s more acceptable for women to bitch about the quality of the other sex when it comes to dating, so they’re oblivious to their own trashiness
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:42 PM
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No. But even if that was remotely true, my point still stands: it would have been better to call out those antisemitic bitches beforehand
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:36 PM
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I’ll agree that it’s less straightforward that I put it initially, yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 01:39 AM
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The ol’ “calling people racist makes them racist” I’m gonna call my dick “gigantic”, I’ll update yall
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 10:44 PM
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That feel when mom asks you to clean your room
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 10:23 PM
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Nah she’s right, the fall is steeper for them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 10:18 PM
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u/GridReXX sure do
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 10:13 PM
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Which ideas?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:52 PM
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Precisely. My point is that red pill women, however, will use this piece of TRP dogma to justify their behavior, making it a self fulfilling prophecy. They won’t be as willing to make efforts because of their idea that their deep nature is as TRP define it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:43 PM
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Red pill wifey are the worst dating prospect ever, wtf fellow men. How you think that will go: Hi honey 😘 Hope you had a great day earning a big, huge paycheck for us. Sit down, I’ll give you a bj before cooking a nice meal. I’m so lucky to have caught an alpha 😍😍 How that will go: Hey... I’m leaving you for Chadissimo. I’m sorry, but I can’t fight my hypergamous instinct, you know how it is... You sorta broke frame, that’s totally why I’m doing this. Ok bye bye 👋
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:23 PM
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French law explicitly forbids paternity tests to preserve peace in the society. Which basically mean they recognize that some cultural artifact may be bad for a gender, but help society in general. Now dare to suggest anything remotely comparable to the detriment of a few women and watch yourself get cancelled faster than a shitty pilot on HBO And you would think some rational, clear headed people could discuss the absurd degree to which women have been liberated, contrary to popular zeitgeist, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:11 PM
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Translation?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 08:47 PM
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Tell us how you really feel
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 07:31 PM
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I mean, some chicks spend their professional lives explaining how spreading your legs as a dude is a no no And they get congratulated for it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 06:25 PM
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Not in 3D, for a start
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 06:14 PM
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I know Indians are supposed to struggle with dating... but the ones in my circle do perfectly fine. They’re all absolutely integrated though
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 04:48 PM
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It’s not a circle jerk. It’s actually one of the few places where you can hear both extremes and everything in between. And I don’t ever talk about Pill theory with anyone irl, and that’s one of the best place to do it online, so it’s naturally entertaining, it’s really an online bar discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 04:45 PM
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Apex fallacy. Each of those things have had the participation of many women and yet you chose to define them by the man at the top
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 02:02 PM
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Hell yeah, that’s how you do it 👉
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 02:01 PM
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In a stand up / acting context, maybe, for some reason. But IRL, I know plenty of hilarious women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 01:49 PM
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Yeah yeah Pareto alright
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 01:48 PM
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Eh, those 20% specifically design their account to gain followers, so with the way social networks are set up, it’s only natural. It would be weird to follow a random college chick minding her business and posting wholesome pics vs a girl actually looking for attention
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 01:37 PM
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It’s gonna be all good once we just get the eye recording thingy like in Black Mirror
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 01:04 PM
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Of course, but there’s a dominant Instagram aesthetic, that’s what Insta-girls refers to
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 01:00 PM
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Yeah and most men never have to worry about sexual aggression nor do they have to face a glass ceiling. I never said men had it easier. My point is precisely that men and women face different type of problems and that as long as it’s more or less balanced, it’s ok - vs trying to make them equal in every aspect. I guess you wouldn’t like forced paternal leave like they do in some places. Well, better to just say, hey, women had his one thing which suck, it’s ok. They don’t get drafted so it evens…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 11:27 PM
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Nobody. They just happen to want to (thankfully for civilization) and this is something them alone can do
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 10:41 PM
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idontknowwhatyoumeanwhywouldsheneedaspeechtherapistfor
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 09:56 PM
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The way Paglia see this: Rousseau is the origin of “Mankind is good, society perverts it” vs Hobbes’ idea that Mankind is actually brutish and controlled by society. To her, feminists embrace the former, thinking that good behavior between the sexes is natural and obvious and that society perverts it by putting biases and stuff in our heads (toxic masculinity, beauty standards...) She thinks the opposite, we’re savages trying to domesticate ourselves and good behavior toward each other is actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 09:38 PM
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Other feminists and Jean Jacques Rousseau, mainly
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 09:10 PM
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No surprises here
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 09:07 PM
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You won’t ever hear Paglia complaining about the pay gap tho, that’s why she’s a bit of a renegade
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 09:06 PM
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Did you took her being a lesbo into account?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 08:59 PM
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Yeah, it sort of became the lonely Machiavellian heart club. They sure can talk the talk, but...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 08:42 PM
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Eh, that’s funny but overblown, it’s really not that big of deal nor does it signal some kind of intellectual rot of academia as a whole. But yeah, there’s issues to fix here
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 08:36 PM
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There are a million kids aged 10-14 working in sweatshop in Bengladesh alone. You don’t do this willingly, that’s literally their last straw. There’s no promotions, vacations, constant stress, no schooling, regular deaths or horrible accidents, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 04:22 PM
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There’s a spectrum of conditions for sweatshop workers, but bosses in developing countries have a really absolute power on their workers - they cannot just leave. Parents forcing a kid to work at a factory to make ends meet is virtually indistinguishable from slavery for said kid. Every wealthy society used that kind of grossly underpaid, terribly treated labor to get richer, yes. Whether they do it by enforcing the right to slavery legally or simply not offering the slightest protection to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 04:13 PM
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God is a CrossFiter, that’s gonna be tough
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 01:50 PM
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Beaucoup de beurettes ont les cheveux relativement lisse quand même. We just got accustomed to the appearance of make up, so no make up looks weird. A bit like after eating tasteless vegetable all your life “real” organic ones will taste strange
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 01:31 PM
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Well, looks like you got this all figured out, so you go girl I personally don’t pay for shit anymore but watching some random sap get screwed by a smiling freeloader in a pub is always entertaining
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 01:06 PM
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Fair enough. A lot of guys also get a kick just for paying stuff to a woman, it makes them feel manly and chivalrous. But that’s still playing with fire
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:58 PM
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You sound like those guys who goes “Oh geez I should have been a dick to wahmen since they love it so much 😫 all these doors I opened...” Like, I’m not exactly sure it would have gone the way you think it would have
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:49 PM
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Nah apparently that’s basically short term plastic surgery
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:41 PM
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True dat. I would expect a fair share of venting but TRP are really vindictive
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:12 PM
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Dude. Slavery the way it was practiced in the US is not the same that the one you’re thinking about when you’re talking about Africa. This type of “slavery”, while awful, is not by any mean a huge part of the local economy used as industrious free labour but rather a convenience. Sweatshop employees who die at 30 because the shitty products they inhale all day and the terrible conditions they are force to live under the authority of their boss are closer to slaves than those poor house housemaid…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 09:49 AM
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You have to understand that this type of arguments is typical of American conservatives. Nowhere else do people try to make this weird and obviously flawed case. Capitalism is not always “pure”. Northern Europe is very capitalist, more than the US in some regard, and it has some elements typically associated with socialism. When Americans practiced slavery, that was by definition the biggest breach of liberty by the government but you don’t call that socialism do you? China is another example. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 09:44 AM
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GMT+2 biiih
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:13 AM
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No, Nazis weren’t left wing. That’s a big caricature of actual history. Nazis got socialists, social democrats and communists killed. Nazis protected private entreprises. The socialist rebranding was a political move. Do you believe North Korea is democratic because its in the name? Or do you understand why using a fake label can be useful sometimes? Hey look, leftists also have shitty people, no need to twist history. Capitalism is a really really really complex phenomenon whose definition, sco…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 11:47 PM
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That particular argumentation is so American. Like, yeah, socialism is inefficient, but it’s clear none of those ideas are yours, you’re just parroting false propaganda (Nazis = socialists.... really? Capitalism = no slavery..... Really?). Reality is way more nuanced, don’t let local politics fry your brain
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 11:20 PM
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That’s not a hot take, that’s the truth. It’s the last one I vividly remember and enjoyed
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 09:17 PM
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My man, hit the dm we got to discuss business opportunities
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 09:11 PM
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Career penalties because of childbirth, for example. Not an issue for virtually all men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 09:10 PM
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You’re the stem lord equivalent of pumpkin spice latte basic girl, so predictable. You know I’m right so you took the obvious bait
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 09:02 PM
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That’s a wild assumption - by then, who can say what the world will look like? Society may change drastically
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 08:44 PM
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Ngl, that’s sounds great. But we’re really not there yet and that’s nothing an escort cannot do
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 08:42 PM
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Well, first, I’m Black, so enjoy hate speech prison, Then, it’s absolutely true and you know it. That’s basically what many women, especially so called femcels complain about: they can get sex but it feels impersonal because the dude is just looking to bust a nut, this their need to be reassured on their uniqueness. Sexbots are 30 times worse, they’re literally glorified sextoys. Dudes are still going to get jealous of people with real relationships and crave real women. Ain’t no foolin Mother N…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 08:41 PM
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Yeah, that’s actually what I meant, you’re right
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 08:16 PM
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Feminists like to throw around the concept that the loss of privilege feels like injustice to men but it’s just one of many many examples of things they got backward. Women face particular difficulties in their lives, but they are not oppressed in most (they are exceptions) of the West by any stretch of the imagination
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 08:08 PM
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It’s ok for men and women woes to be different as long as there is a general equilibrium, ie, this particular inequality is corrected by other problems singular to women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 06:39 PM
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I still think you’re making a rule out of a trend, but I don’t fundamentally disagree with this. For the last part, however, that’s not how humans being works, sadly. We are incredibly social creatures and any perception of rejection is painful, as many subreddits can show. And people think in relative terms rather than absolute. The luckiest man in a swamp is very likely more happy than the unluckiest in a preppy suburb. Also, I have to stress that I’m not short (I’m 6’1!) even though I may sou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/18 03:33 AM
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Oh sure, but that’s the most important factor by far. Wasn’t it even your initial point? It’s amusing to me that you would basically tell short men to accept the fact that they are unfortunately genetic garbage unfit for relationships because, well, nature, and you would compare their condition to your attitude being slightly off putting to some men you actually dated? I’m not saying you don’t have disadvantages, we all have some, after all, but the one you put forward does not seem like a big d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/18 01:52 AM
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I’m not a bitter short guy and at I’m not complaining about the “unfairness” of the dating market in general nor women’s in particular, especially since I’m lucky in that regard. What bother me is your justification by nature - it’s shaky at best. You’re using bits of evolutionary theory without enough depth. You’re talking about people as if they possess some inner transcendent game-theory rationality - they do not, they make plenty of under optimised choices and culture interfere with those, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 04:50 PM
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That’s not how people behave and reason in real life nor is it “just scientific”. That’s the thing with science communication - it ends up being totally misunderstood. Women may prefer tall men on average, and that’s fine, but to suggest that it’s because there’s something wrong with shorter ones is messed up. Evolutionary success is a multidimensional concept. Peter Dinklage’s partners are not deluded - any child they conceive with him would be more successful on average than with a random 6’4 …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/18 03:03 PM
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You’re using science you don’t understand at all to make a stupid point. I your own words, (https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/8tdwqf/comment/e17d8g5?st=JJUHKUS4&sh=a83237e4) stop trying to organize a gender wide boycott just because of your personal preference. There’s nothing “genetically wrong” with short dudes and your suggestion to “suck it up” actually indicate you’re using that argument out of bitterness toward males in general rather than weak pop science reasoning. You p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 09:27 PM
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