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But resentment kills it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:23 AM
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society is falling apart By what metric?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 12:21 PM
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Humans would have never grown larger small communities, and they would have died out. It is a terrible idea from a survival perspective because women are more valuable in reproductive terms. If the numbers of women in a population get decimated the way the numbers of men do during war, that's it, they all die. If you are talking about our current comfy society, with an overnight change: I assume you mean that men are less thirsty and physical factors are now a secondary factor in their attractio…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 02:13 AM
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women try and absolve themselves of child raising responsibilities wherever they can. Really? Because most women raise the kids, with or without Dad. Haven't you heard the old "My Dad left to go buy cigarettes and never came back"? Why do you think there is a trope of the absent father but not mother? Yes women will choose to be single moms, and maybe they will get alimony, but they are still doing the RAISING of the children which is ENORMOUS time input and responsibility. Why did the woman cho…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:18 PM
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If its day-to-day stuff, why is he deciding, considering women are traditionally homemakers? Are women less biologically suited to dealing with the responsibility of day-to-day stuff like who picks up the kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:05 PM
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Go read the MRP sub and the dozens of stories there about men that stepped up and started leading their households and the incredible changes that made in their marriages. Do they explicitly enter the captain/first mate agreement with their wives so their wives know that they have veto power? Or do they just start doing more stuff around the house and deciding where the couple eats out? Also, it's pretty common knowledge that women look to escape responsibility anywhere they can. Why do all most…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:00 PM
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Over at the MRP sub, we have FR after FR of men that have taken back the leadership role and just how happy their wives are Where a man explicitly enters the captain/first mate dynamic with his woman and she is aware of this? Overall, women don't want the responsibility Proof? You're saying that when there is a disagreement that is important to both people, women do not want to decide? .
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 06:52 PM
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Smarter Debatable. I don't think the average woman is very interested in your mathematics prowess, and if you mean wit, you're talking about charisma. Which men also want in women. taller because men are on average taller than women. Also indicates ability to physically protect her and their children richer To provide for her children fit Because it makes a man sexually attractive. And it does that because it indicates he is healthy and can protect her and their children. Regardless of the truth…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 06:48 PM
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"women prefer a strong man to lead them" Sure women like strong men, but what evidence do you have that they want to be led. What examples of leadership can you give that you think the average woman wants in her life?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 06:39 PM
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What about biology makes the man a better leader? Wouldn't testosterone make a man more rash? Wouldn't a feminine women be more in tune with the needs of those around her, allowing her to make better decisions? What if the man makes shit delegations, because he won't admit she's better at managing money than him? He abuses his power? Before you say she should have vetted better: this is 10 years into the marriage. Real life has happened - death of family members, stress from work, health problem…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 06:32 PM
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He isn't literally a captain and she isn't literally his first mate. So he doesn't have more power in the marriage or he does? I'm not talking about how much more power, or how much he exercises that power, but does he have more power? women are attracted to a strong man sure most women like to be led See, I disagree with this. Sure, they like strong men, many like to be sexually dominated, and they like to feel safe... But women like having control over their environment and the life they set u…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 06:26 PM
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There is no girl in the world capable of sharing my interests What are these interests? What if it was a trap who shared your interests (100% passing, but ugly)?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 05:59 PM
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"Men want a hole and a womb nothing more" is a meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 05:54 PM
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But what you said isn't the given definition for captain/first mate - you are just describing a man who knows that he doesn't have to always do what his wife says. The captain/first mate model is a power imbalance between the couple, where the captain has "veto power". If in practice the captain/first mate dynamic is different to its given definition, why not change the description? Why not say to merps: "You don't have to do what your wife says, you know", rather than explicitly tipping the pow…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 05:53 PM
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One partner having "ultimate veto power" based on gender, seems silly to me. Wouldn't you delegate veto based on individual strengths and desires? Who cares more about decoration? Who is good at managing money? Who doesn't like making decisions? Why is it the man who is captain?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 05:45 PM
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The second study says that 43% of women will tell a CLOSE FRIEND, 15% will tell more than one, and that women are more likely to tell close friends than men. It doesn't say about whether women will admit it to a survey, and we can't extrapolate that data from how likely they are to tell a close friend (risk of being caught is a lot lower telling a survey). So the 75% number is not a reasonable calculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 05:35 PM
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Why do you say that? The question is about marriage anyway so tinder is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 02:14 PM
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Tinder is for hookups. "Would you fuck a guy casually who is seeing other women" aka spinning plates != "would you marry a guy with other wives".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 02:02 PM
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I don't think this "women will share high SMV men over having a low SMV man" thing that I sometimes hear is true. IMO the choice most women would make is "stay single". Some women do delude themselves if their man is cheating though. In the past, sometimes they had to share men for resources, but these marriages weren't really about love in the first place. In the concubine situation, vying for the emperor's (or other high status man's) favour would grant favour to HER children and earn her free…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 12:01 PM
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I would NEVER be a man's second or third wife. I'm looking for a life partner, I want someone who is able to put as much time and compromise emotional effort into a relationship as me (not talking about money, I don't care about being provided for). Obviously he'd be spreading himself thin if he had two other women. Unless I was in a relationship with the wives too in a complicated poly system which probably wouldn't work but the idea is much less disgusting to me (hope his other wives are hot f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 10:45 AM
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Nerdy women are in such high demand, they would have to be purposefully sexually unsuccessful. Some types are, a lot aren't. Stacey or Jennifer, (her approachably pretty and slightly more introverted friend) who like overwatch and casually browse tumblr sure are. Harriet who often isn't much to look at but extroverted and confident, inserts herself in the social scene of a male dominated hobby will probably have some orbiters options. But plain Gretchen, who isn't confident enough to aggressivel…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:44 PM
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No. Ever been to a club in a university town? Guys there will take chances, touch girls up etc. If it's unwanted the girl or her friends tells him to stop, there's no rape accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 09:15 AM
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Interesting article. I would also add that agriculture allowed humans to hoard resources like land from others, making women dependent on men and men dependent on men of higher status.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 09:31 PM
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Hunter gatherers didn't plow. They hunted and gathered.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 09:15 PM
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It was fun, they should have kept it. But I don't think those communities are a healthy outlet for incels. Echo chambers never are. They should spend all those nights on wizardchan r9k or r/incels etc getting drunk/doing drugs on the town.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 03:17 PM
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Whatever dude, someone is. Asking isn't exactly a witch hunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 02:53 PM
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Transwomen are such a tiny proportion of the actual population that whatever they do has little effect on the SMP. Low test isn't the cause for transwomen either. Low test can't explain the distress trans women feel at having a male body.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 11:46 PM
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Did you downvote me again? Link 2 has "be attractive, don't be unattractive" in quote marks. They might not know it comes from SNL, but he is quoting it. Either way, all the posts are agreeing with the general idea - to have success with women, be attractive. This is a idea TRP agrees with which is also in mainstream media.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 10:47 PM
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My examples are redpill types literally uttering that exact phrase - "Be attractive". Redpill does use that phrase, they just interpret it differently to incels or blackpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 07:44 PM
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Be attractive, dont be unattractive isnt muttered by RP types Yeah, it totally is, by RP types who understand that while you cannot change how handsome you are, you can and should change how attractive you are. This is not the same as incel whining about height and looks and race. Here are some heavily upvoted examples of endorsed contributors saying "be attractive". 1 2 3 4
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 04:26 PM
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A good laugh. Everyone's drunk or high, who gives a shit if you embarrass yourself? There's a certain amount of anonymity there. Just predrink properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 12:50 AM
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be attractive != be handsome You were making an assumption that a man can't change his attractiveness. Red pill absolutely agrees with 'be attractive, don't be unattractive', it also states that you should make yourself as attractive as possible. Sure, a man can't make himself more handsome (bar surgery), but he can absolutely make himself more attractive in many ways: work out wear fitting clothes in a style which suits him smell good haircut stubble body language and posture
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 11:46 PM
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Did you downvote me? I can find tons of examples in mainstream culture of how to get girls. In this cosmo article, hot guys wear nice clothes that fit, are tall, and have muscles. Is cosmo red pill? This Saturday Night Live Sketch, is the origin of that "be attractive, don't be unattractive" thing. SNL is a very mainstream comedy show which could certainly be described as feminist. In this Big Bang Theory clip, weak and nerdy and small Leonerd is the butt of the joke and Penny is clearly more at…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 08:44 PM
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There is no "Mother of all BP sites". Blue pill is not an ideology - all blue pill means is "not red pill". So buzzfeed might be feminist and blue pill, but it doesn't speak for all feminists and bluepillers. In the same way, I could go on /r/TRP right now and find a hateful and stupid post, and you could fairly say "that guy doesn't speak for redpill". So I don't care what buzzfeed says. So again, many blue pill feminists would agree with gym, clothes, groom, confidence. This is not exclusively…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 07:43 PM
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All girls are fawning over hot and confident guys as teenagers. Which mainstream heartthrobs are not attractive, confident or charming? There is a partial overlap between "hot and confident" and "bad, dangerous", but there are tons of heartthrobs who are "good". Justin Bieber (had a good boy image at peak popularity), One Direction - girls go (or went) crazy over them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:55 PM
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Yeah I can see that my point didn't really contradict OP. But dating sucking for some guys doesn't confirm red pill imo. Unattractive, unfit, poorly groomed autistic men don't have success with women is not exclusively a red pill idea, most people (including blue pill feminists) would agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:48 PM
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"Girls who fawn over hot, confident guys are stupid/slutty/damaged/crazy" No one ever says this. I think you might be confusing "hot, confident" with "dangerous, bad". "Girls who fawn over dangerous, bad guys are stupid/slutty/damaged/crazy" sounds more realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:44 PM
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a handful of other media examples (all aimed at adults) It's all over popular culture, and includes media aimed at children and teenagers. Even in children's stories the ideal man is "A HANDSOME prince", who is competent and saves them from physical danger. The heroes in media for little boys are strong, tough, confident, manly, often handsome. My 10 year old cousin right now loves batman, for example. That kind of man is what little boys aspire towards. Not exactly feminist brainwashing? Do I n…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:40 PM
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I'm not talking about what women know, I'm talking about guys on TRP who talk about the wall. I'm saying many TRPers do not have the life experience to know whether the wall is real and to what extent it affects women (not making a comment on the validity on it!), but the gleeful way they post about it suggests that it is a revenge fantasy they want to be true. In contradiction to OP's assertion that redpillers don't want the red pill to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:19 PM
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I don't believe this. Popular culture is FULL of very obvious clues about what kind of men women want. Who was getting laid at school? Hot, confident guys. Which celebrities did girls fawn over? Hot, confident guys. Men's magazines contain dating advice like "going to the gym", "being confident", "be attractive". The "be attractive, don't be unattractive" is taken from a Saturday Night Live sketch, a very mainstream comedy show. Most guys get the message during their teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:00 PM
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But when we talk about rape/harassment, instead of tackling the root cause such as how the onus is on guys to make the first move or discrepancies in the sexual market that's heavily stacked against males Source on this? You're making a big assumption here. [This post] (https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6czhlz/why_do_men_rape/dhz1u1u/) suggests that the vast majority of rapists do not rape to get sex (paying for sex would be WAY less risky anyway), it's more about power, dominan…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 03:51 PM
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I don't believe that. For example, "The Wall" reads like a gleeful revenge fantasy rather than actual consideration of facts, especially for young college aged guys (like a lot of TRP) - how would they know? What is "blue pill feminist advice"? Many blue pill feminists would agree that to have success with women, you need to work on your appearance (gym,clothes,groom), be confident, enjoyable to be around etc etc. These aren't exclusively red pill ideas - everyone knows those things. Only fringe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 03:38 PM
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sup
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 05:57 PM
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There are traits in women beyond looks which are generally appealing in LTRs. Most men want a woman who is loyal, enjoyable to be around and good social skills and emotional intelligence is usually attractive, everyone wants a partner who can offer emotional support, a good wardrobe will make a woman more attractive. Most men want to marry woman who has her shit together emotionally and in her life (yeah maybe incels fantasize about her being completely emotionally dependent on him but most guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 05:51 PM
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Could it be possible that women recover better from breakups because in general they have a stronger support system and are more willing to seek emotional help if they need it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 05:34 PM
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Women don't want to date or fuck men who dont have good genes. In fact, they're PROGRAMMED to do that. fixed
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 02:37 PM
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Thing is, women don't want to do that. In general, they would rather be alone than with someone they are not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 02:36 PM
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Oops sorry lol. I stopped reading there and rushed to find studies to contradict you like a dumbass.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 02:12 AM
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in the best possible condition to recover her health Teenage pregnancy is at higher risk of health complications compared to adult women. study 1 study 2
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 01:54 AM
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Most recently, there have been rumors with model Karlie Kloss. Shit got out of control for a while end of 2014.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 07:52 PM
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