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I notice you keep making statements and then backtrack, saying it's not relevant. You kept droning on on how pregnancy is just causality at work and then when I point out causality affects everything you say I'm missing the point. Okay. Then stop pointing to cause and effect as a reason for why I should think abortion shouldn't be allowed. Then you say people can't control their own bodies and I provide you with exceptions, then you say that doesn't count because it involves others. Okay. But th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:50 AM
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That's not what I believe at all. You're doing it again. At this point I honestly think you can't understand the nuance. No one deserves to get raped and it's not your fault if some pervert has his way with you But that doesn't necessarily mean there was never at any point anything you could've done differently that could've prevented you from getting hurt. Yes, I understand that this doesn't help the victim after the fact. But this could still be valuable information to someone who hasn't been …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 03:34 AM
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It's a matter of cause and effect. Everything is cause and effect. Going to an abortion clinic is also cause and effect (cause: enter clinic, effect: baby gone). We don't have control over what our bodies do beyond our initial choice Sure we do: surgery, medication, ... there's no such thing as continuous consent in this case According to you. Let me ask you this: should anyone be allowed to use another person's body without their consent? No point in mentioning them because they can no longer r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 01:46 AM
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I was picking a specific example that was so obvious it'd be clear that your actions matter if prevention is important to you. I doubt that your motives are noble. Are... are you just looking to keep arguing? Do you think I want women to get hurt? Yes or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 01:18 AM
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I'm uninterested in the question. That's odd considering what you wrote here: the best plan is to treat every man who looks like he could overpower you as a threat You just got upset at me for asking whether you think it's a good idea to get blacked out drunk surrounded by men you don't know. And NOW you're saying you treat most men as a threat. Now I dunno, but I'd say that willingly being unconscious around people you perceive as a threat is kind of a bad idea. But what do I know, I'm just a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 12:35 AM
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The problem with this argument is that it implies that permission was necessary in the first place. So just to be clear, you're saying that consent to sex is automatically consent to being pregnant for 9 months? Sex is the initial cause and birth is the final effect. You do realise not every set act results in pregnancy, right? In fact, it usually doesn't. Even at peak fertility, a woman is highly unlikely to get pregnant on the first go. So more often than not, the outcome of sex is... not bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 12:13 AM
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I've actually been waiting for you to start, if you were going to. I was, but you kept bombarding me with assumptions. So far I've honestly answered all question you've asked of me. But fine, I'll throw you an olive branch and explain my arguments below. everyone with a dissenting opinion is going to be "wrong" by your views Isn't that true for you too? Don't you think that I'm entirely in the wrong for thinking abortion is fine? it doesn't exactly matter what arguments you use I find that probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 10:38 PM
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you believe that it is/should be okay in all cases, right? Yes. But that's not the conclusion I referred to. You concluded I did not have any arguments for my position. That's where you slipped up. Right, which means that you are basically just going to tell people that they're wrong if they disagree with you, like I said before, because you are arguing from an absolutist position. Again with the assuming. Several comments in and you've never even ASKED me what my arguments are? I have no idea w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 10:12 PM
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You're just going to tell people that they're wrong if they disagree with you? No. And I don't see how you could draw that conclusion? I just don't see how an argument like that would support my view. As I've said, I think abortion is always okay, so arguing that it's okay only when the woman's life is in danger is just bad argumentation. there's already an implication that a woman's life is more valuable than her own child's, which sort of begs the question as to why or how that is true in any …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 09:46 PM
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That's not my argument. I don't need to advocate for special cases, because I'm convinced abortion is not a bad thing in any case. When I talk about the woman's life, I don't mean her potential death through childbirth. I'm talking about her actual life and the impact a pregnancy/unwanted child could have on that. That's why I asked you how many pregnancies are actually life-threatening to which this line of reasoning could be used as an argument Sure, I understand. But that's not my argument, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 09:20 PM
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Which argument? I never said anything about a pregnancy being life threatening.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 09:04 PM
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Once you're out of the womb you're on your own, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 08:51 PM
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Feel free to provide a definition of raising, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 08:38 PM
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"Get dat fetus, kill dat fetus."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 08:24 PM
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Ultimately, it looks like it usually boils down to pro-lifers thinking the fetus' life/autonomy being more important than the woman's. Feel free to debate me on this or ask questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 08:18 PM
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Yeah, sometimes I think most women just want to be able to do anything without ever considering the consequences, because they're never ever responsible for the outcomes of their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 08:06 PM
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No, I asked you a question. Which you haven't answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 07:33 PM
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What do you think circumstances means? I'll try to make it as obvious as possible by using the example from earlier: Suppose a woman who gets black out drunk alone in a place she doesn't know anyone gets raped. Wouldn't you say that not getting black out drunk alone in a place she didn't know anyone would have been very likely to significantly lower the chances of her being raped? Or would you still maintain that there's absolutely nothing she could have done differently and that the rape was al…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 07:06 PM
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I'm sorry, but that statement makes no sense to me. Where did I ever state that looking into the circumstances of an attack diminishes the guilt of the attacker?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 06:23 PM
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My first assault happened at a Walmart when I was 12. I'm truly sorry to hear that. Sometimes assault happens regardless of what you do. I'm aware of that. But that doesn't mean no preventive measures ever work. the sarcasm in your statements of who is at fault. An assault is always the fault of the assaulter. What you're doing here is thinking responsibility is a percentage that has to be divided equally between the attacker and the victim. You seem to think that any investigation into the acti…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 06:15 PM
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What was off topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 05:55 PM
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telling women to be cautious doesn’t really work though, because even women who have been cautious have been raped. How would you know it doesn't work? That's like saying locking your door doesn't work because burglary happens even if you do. Surely there'd be more burglaries if you didn't take any precautions. What do you get out of it when you tell people that most rapists get away with it though? What do you feel that adds to the conversation? The knowledge that rape may go unpunished and tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 05:54 PM
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Well, it did happen a while ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 05:44 PM
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Appreciate the effort. The point here was that you could easily choose NOT to go down that dark alley and that getting black out drunk while wearing next to nothing definitely increases your chances of getting molested/raped. Do you think either of these are untrue?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 05:43 PM
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Might be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 05:40 PM
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Frustration with how many people seem to debate/argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 05:38 PM
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I don't see you quoting me. I'll wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 05:36 PM
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Well, if someone specifically states it, then yes, that's problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 05:35 PM
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I just googled that. Sad story.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 05:32 PM
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See, it's already happening! Can you literally quote me on that. Or are you just inferring? (Here's a clue: it's the latter.)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 05:30 PM
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Yeah, I just think there has to be some deeper instinctive reason for most men preferring smaller women and most women preferring taller men (in addition to men actually being taller on average). The preference has to come from somewhere even if we don't understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 05:26 PM
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This is me just speculating, but is it possible you find it more attractive because you instinctively want to be protected by your partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 04:47 PM
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Wanting a relationship IS NOT thinking with your dick. Please stop thinking with your vagina! Edit: also, that's easy for you to say, because highly likely sex opportunities come to you on the regular, and you get to accept or decline. That's usually not the case for men, where, if you don't look you don't find.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 10:31 PM
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Likely, but let's be fair, if genders were reversed most women would see this exact behaviour as sexual assault/misogyny/objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 10:36 PM
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