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sebwiers/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 02:06 PM
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My personal experience over 30 years of such relationships is... it varies, and doesn't matter WHY as long as you get the "how"right and there's a strong communication of enthusiastic consent on both sides. What does matter is what the dominant partner brings / provides - that's the payoff right? And in my case I'm good at providing an intense animalistic energy that makes my partner feel desired and a mental release of guilt / inhibitions by being "unable to resist" or "forced to do it". The wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 07:08 AM
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"These are generalizations" meaning maybe each half of the statement applies to a bit less than a third of women, so the overall applies to maybe 10%. Guys also don't need to do ALL those things to satisfy most women; a couple strong areas is plenty. Same as most guys are happy if their femme partner does some of the housework, but maybe leaves some to them. Nobody want to listen to anybody whine...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 06:54 AM
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Because dontcha know the 1% Chad alpha sorts have got 99% of that hypergamous pussy tied up and undatable, so only the opinions of people like Leonardo DeCaprio matters. /S
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:27 AM
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I don't think I've had those problems. If anything I'm the one who is approached. I do tend to lean on on gender roles, but it's largely reciprocated. In fact, the more feminist, the more reciprocated. And no, I'm no special "high value", though also not greatly lacking in any areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 05:11 AM
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I'm in the first camp. I also like spending time alone, so a relationship AND fiends might take to much of that away.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 04:35 AM
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When offered smooth dildo-like forms in multiple sizes to rate for use in masturbation, women generally indicated one with a 6 inch insertable length was the preferred size.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 04:32 AM
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I'm good in bed. Like, multiple women who have had a lot of partners said I'm one of if not the best. But I'm not really demanding - if anything, my sex drive is kinda low. I'm also a good cook.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 02:16 PM
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Being emotionally MATURE is not the same as being emotionally AVAILABLE. A lot of "shoulder to cry on types" are not themselves mature and are open that way because they themselves need that. Which, for better or worse, is not attractive on a surface, decide who to date level. And let's be fair here - how many guys date on the basis of "wow, she sure is emotionally supportive"! No. That's not what anybody means about a potential date when they say "great personality". For both sexes, in terms of…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:25 PM
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Since this is a CMV, here's my counter. There seems to be this notion on reddit and the internet in general that men who aren't having sex are these vile, disgusting women haters No. That opinion is limited to small pockets of reddit, and a microscopic portion of the internet (most of which is streaming, porn, and e-commerce, not social media). Get yourself out of that toxic dead end alley and back on the highway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:46 PM
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Realistically, 1 per year after 10 is probably a lot faster than average, which is why I say it is high. But it's easy math, and quickly passed by people who are unusually active. At 18, I didn't consider 8 all that high. At 51, 41 seems high but not absurd. Start doubling or tripling those numbers, and I might raise an eyebrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:29 PM
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In this case I just mean "personal opinion without knowledge of a specific case". Often time "rule of thumb" is just another word for "based on personal experience", and this is no exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:21 PM
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Anything over average would mean half the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:58 PM
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I'd say it's pretty meaningful to the people in that group. There's a significant lifestyle difference in going from 20 to 200.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:57 PM
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Rule of thumb - your age minus 10 is gonna be pretty high. But it's not something I get hung up on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:50 PM
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Pretty sure damn near EVERY guy who wears a dress in public has little trouble getting laid. Its a pretty bold demonstration of confidence. why do people accept a narrower range of gender expression for men and a wider one for women? I don't think they do. Look how unaccepting people are of many common male behaviors / body language signals from women, Clothing is superficial by comparison. Or, if we're talking life/career choices, a man who wants to be a househusband or a woman who's a software…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 03:21 PM
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Google "my boyfriend isn't dominant enough" some time, it's very telling. There are thousands of instances of women complaining about it. Do you have any control phrases we can Google that might support that "thousands" is a statistical indicator that this is the key issue you claim? Because I'm pretty sure the count for "my boyfriend can't make me orgasm" or "my boyfriend cheated on me" is orders of magnitude higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:25 PM
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The multiple orgasms my first partners had say otherwise. Sure, I got better, but the learning was fun on both sides. Knowing basic sexual anatomy / response and reading some books like "joy of sex" goes a long way. Effort and education beats untutored, unmotivated experience. Ironically, women all seem to think they know what to do, when... Lol. Men can vary as much as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:19 PM
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Bisexuality would be a solid exception for sure. As maybele sexual submissiveness / masochism as applied to get men / women. I was referring more to life / career choice issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 07:40 PM
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Whether you know what / are good at what you are doing has very little to do with experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 07:22 PM
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The first girl I had sex with literally told me I was lying when I told her after that it was my first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 07:08 PM
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Again, I was supporting your opinion. I am truely sorry I did so. I'll be sure to spare you any further such conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 05:07 PM
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But you should worry about finding a woman who thinks the same way you do...not waste time complaining about the women you don't want anyway. Women are not obligated to change their behaviors just so you feel like you have options. That sure looks like general advice / opinion. Why are you taking this so personally? Because you are asking personal questions? Like, if I I was suppose to take it generally, you could state general facts. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 04:21 PM
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Why all the questions? I say I'm happy with how my sex life and relationships following advice you give, and you start giving me the third degree like somehow I'm failing? OK, whatever. You win, I don't actually follow your advice. Which makes me happy. Which means that for me, your advice is irrelevant or bad. BTW, this was never about "casual sex". If you go up the chain, it's about sex early in the dating process as part of establishing a relationship. So again, your questioning is odd and ir…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 04:13 PM
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The recent pandemic did have some impact on that. But given that I'm a member of multiple local BDSM and swinger groups, and met my ex wife in a bar with a live dominatrix floor show, I'd say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:15 PM
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I think you are getting the sense he uses it wrong, as that would have no relevance to "women being better keepers of the status quo".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 02:01 PM
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In my experience, that's most women who want a relationship with me. But if I say that here, people presume it's because I'm attractive, not because I follow your obvious and rational suggestion to date like minded women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 06:43 AM
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Even bi WOMEN find (other bi and gay) women less accepting of thier "strangeness". Sometimes it's openly a complaint about the bisexuality, sometimes it's just a subtle coolness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 06:15 AM
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Most of them. Work in any factory and you got dudes up and down the line tuning into top 40, classic rock (aka old pop), mainstream rap (aka black pop), etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 06:12 AM
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People of both genders are much more accepting of "fringe" behavior in men than women. Even in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 06:07 AM
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No. That's my answer. Neither is more open minded than the other, it is an individual choice not correlated to gender. Both of your examples that influence your thinking are just evidence that the men around you are louder about their opinions than the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 05:55 AM
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Parent-child love is conditional. They don't love random kids like that. Sure, the condition isn't gonna change, but it's a hell of a special condition! Also, that sort of love does not exist in all parent-child cases. Sad, but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 05:51 AM
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It's also what is slapped into (literally, often by parents, or figuratively by peer pressure) most young hetero males.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 08:09 PM
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Gender behaviors are performative for everybody. Most just accept it, become comfortable with it, and make it a hsbbit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 05:15 AM
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If they are decent looking / "high value", what wouldn't they get out of it? According to TRP such women have an easy responsability free life of fucking all the Chads and then settling down with Billy Beta, and you can't expect them to change. Sounds like a pretty good plan if you can swing it, and TRP says most of them can and do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:47 PM
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In my experience, bi women move even slower in fem-fem relationships than they do with men. I even know one who largely doesn't do relationships with men at all, and only wants them as booty calls.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:46 PM
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I'd guess anybody in the 18-35 range is doing just fine. The further outside that, the most re guys are gonna nope out (though a few others may be especially interested).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:54 AM
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B. Tyler has no impact on their relationship. And honestly, if a woman treated me the way Mike is acting, I'd seriously consider cutting it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:47 AM
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Most people aren't gay men. Isn't the whole point of this thread discussing (perceptions of) alternative relationships? I'd wager it's much more true of gay male marriages than normal hetero ones. Aside from the simple fact that most gay men don't have the assumption that sex = relationship that often drives the insistence on monogamy, it's also often seen that going outside one form of cultural assumption (heterosexuality) often allows you to re-evaluate others as well (monogamy).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:18 AM
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Well put. Like, none of the red pill dude here even want a big tiddy goth girl???? That's mall level mainstream, but to much for trp...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:25 AM
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Partially... but mostly just that non-stereotypical gender expression is inherent to the meaning of "queer". For a counter example, small ethno-religious groups may be equally (or more) a minority, but are not generally any more open about gender variation,and often much more strict.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:03 AM
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A long lasting marriage doesn't require monogamy. It's probably easier if some freedom is still allowed (and openly, maturely managed).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:00 AM
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I think the shocking part would be that nobody cares what the truth is. If you saw evidence to the contrary of your claims, would you change your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:21 PM
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Most clients escorts see a WEALTHY men. Which tends to coincide with older, socially stable ... hence, married. Those guys may be sex addicts, or may be choosing not to sleep with their aging wife in favor of the young hot escort they can afford. Are you blaming that on the wife??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:11 PM
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Lol. Depending on age, sex twice a month may be more than you want / need. It's still more than most unmarried people get, even those in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:08 PM
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I think you are making baseless assertions - your absence of evidence is NOT itself evidence! Statisticians do a decent job of testing for / reducing lies, and there's nothing to indicate thier numbers are as wildly off as you claim. Even if surveys saying married people have sex more often than unmarried (but living together).... that's a huge gap you claim. The majority of sexless marriages end quickly in divorce, so why are so many lasting longer? The majority of men at what age? Your stateme…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:28 PM
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It filled with women because it bothers women more and they put more effort (or at least noise) into fixing things. Men just suck it up / keep quiet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:03 AM
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homosexuality ... creates weak men and therefore a weak society. Ancient Sparta would like to have a word with you about your weak woman loving ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:22 AM
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Yes, if there's one thing gay men are known for, it's thier drama free relationships. /SuperSarcasm
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:06 AM
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Isn't this a banned topic? A similar question I asked about bdsm subculture got removed simply because it acknowledged that there was some overlap / shared space with LGBTQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:03 AM
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If you think sexual selection always leads to improved populations, then you probably haven't even skimmed a basic bio text. Many traits that help attract a mate are useless or even disadvantageous. There's no reason to think humans were / are immune to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:47 AM
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That says nothing about kink. Go to a Chili's restaurant and it's the same thing. In my real life experience, the young hot female subs are rarer than decent looking male doms.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:13 PM
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There's a lot to argue there, but I won't. Just consider this; what you see as a new user on FetLife reflects what the FetLife algorithm values and promotes, not necessarily what is common in the community. What is FetLife selling, and to whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:28 AM
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Seems tautological. If they don't get love, they aren't lovable losers. And "getting the girl" is the only commonly available path for a heterosexual male to get love.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:53 AM
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I think a pretty common case would be compatible fetishes / kinks. Don't even need to be rare ones, just uncommon enough / hidden enough that locating new compatible partner(s) isn't a attractive option. Before the Internet I think this was very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:37 AM
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I'm 51 and lost my virginity doing bondage when I was 18. That's pretty extreme by my gens standards. Also pretty dumb by any standards - real chocking is a high risk activity. But you may be right... my 32 yo gf likes it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:21 AM
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Can, but the vast majority won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:23 AM
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That and the fact that there's a small amount of alcohol you consume just in ripe fruit and cooking. If that can make you dangerously sick, it seems a real problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:22 AM
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I had a vasectomy, so... probably yes, but no need for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:18 AM
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As somebody who only sleeps with the ones who do... I think you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:44 PM
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I'm both dominant in bed and rough. As in, legitimately kinky, whip and restraint owning, going to fetish events to find partners, etc. There's only a small portion of women who really like that. Some of those have said I'm the best ever for them. For the rest it's kinda "meh" experimentalism that, if the relationship is longstanding, they do as an indulgence. It might be memorable to them, but I doubt it's ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:38 PM
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You don't control who and what you find attractive. You certainly can influence it a lot by not simping over any random Stacey, and putting some effort into seeing other types. Also, what does control it? Knowing that can go a long way towards letting you regain control, simply by choosing not to engage with / buy into those influences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:13 PM
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Just. Ask. Sure, they may deny with one of above. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:04 PM
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I fucking hate this stupid dominant men archetype. Yep, that's a stupid archetype that doesn't accurately describe dominant men. Why do you believe it when it's so stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:54 PM
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In my experience this is very much untrue of self aware, kink oriented (as in BDSM) submissive women. In fact, accountability and consequences are exactly what some of them ask for. And in general they are fine leaders, responsible for most of the community organizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:18 PM
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I can speak better to the "in bed" side; I'm into BDSM. But that means I know a lot of folks who do extend roles to the whole relationship, and end up with women who want that to some extent. I think my impulses are a bit different from red pill / conservative aims though ... For me it's very much an inborn drive. When I lost my virginity (at 18) I tried the girl up (after she somewhat jokingly tried to do so to me using yarn... long story obviously). It turns me on, and I'm turned on by being a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:11 PM
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Just like you wanna learn how to drive from the guy who actually wrecked his car, but now knows how driving in snow works.... instead of the fella who's never had trouble there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 05:08 AM
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It's a tautology to say that advice like "take care of your health and save more money" is effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:32 PM
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the red pill is everything they found effective at attracting women Usually after a period of failure due to poor luck or lack of social skills. The people who never had issues, don't spend time sharing what worked for them... but wouldn't they be the ones to emulate?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:27 PM
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Solid debate skills, thanks for conceding.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:45 PM
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No you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 08:06 AM
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Yes it does. Side effects. No its not. All the things mentioned in the post are common "improve your life and mental well being" advice. Like, 101 level. If they aren't all condensed in one place somewhere, maybe it's because TRP is the only place where people somehow missed so many of them that they need a such lists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 07:42 AM
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Signal to noise ratio isn't especially high though. The good parts are not unique to TRP, so why wade through the crap for those nuggets?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:16 AM
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Hormonal development (let alone the social and mental aspects of gender and attraction) is not a binary switch. It's a cascading, branching Rube Goldberg mechanism where behavior of some parts may not coincide with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 01:43 PM
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History shows us that the pursuit of hedonism and the wholesale abandonment of morality tend to go hand in hand. Citation needed. Counter examples abound (both of moralistic hedonists, and even more so of highly amoral ascetics), so please provide AMPLE evidence; extraordinary claims require extraordinary support. And to head of the whole red pill thing - they are FAILING at making both themselves and others happier. That's not hedonism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:55 PM
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No. I'm a member of my local BDSM community and active online, and have seen ZERO connection (or even a negative correlation) between typically male physical characteristics / personality and inclination towards dominance / submission. High testosterone makes you hornier more often... which may manifest as a taste for submission, or just plain old fashion simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:34 PM
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Not always. It can instead mean tossing out artificial, socially coded notions of "value" in favor of personal taste / focus. A lot of people never look past some requirements that, once in a relationship, don't matter to them. This is especially true for people with less relationship experience, because they often don't even know what Thier personal "must have" vs "do without" mix is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 03:13 PM
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With those numbers, you have to ask - is the preference for a taller man / shorter woman? Or, is it a preference for not being in an oddball minority pairing, because most people like to confirm with social norms? One way to distinguish these would be to look at whether people prefer to maximize the size disparity, or steel out a partner who is Thier "average difference" match. In my experience the former exists but is less common than the later.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 05:21 PM
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there is a lot of talk about people claiming women not being capable of unconditional love with the implication that men apparently are able to do that. I dated a bi woman who felt the exact opposite was true. She said for that reason she could only love another woman. She said I was the best sex she ever had, but we broke up after a year for that reason (she'd never even really planned to date me, but we got on well outside sex too).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 05:11 PM
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Seems tautological. Something that impresses you leaves a good impression? Not exactly deep analysis, more like "yes, by definition". People are impressed by a variety of things, the depth would come in figuring out what they are and why. "Red Pill" tends to argue it's the same things for most people, but from what I have seen that is often only a small factor - they may find or care about something others are not at all clued into.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 05:01 PM
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Hmm. Def an introvert. Most of my good matches were / are extroverts, often anxious ones who enjoyed a solid "fuck those people" influence when drama got to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:45 PM
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And so do some women. Especially after age 30 or so... so things may be looking up for yah.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:57 AM
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I don't take any offense at the fact, just the language. I already said I talked to a doctor about it and had testing done, so... yeah, thanks for the unsolicited, obvious, and redundant medical advice. The entire argument here seems to be that men are thirsty in ways that often that leads to them playing simps. I consider myself lucky to have avoided that. I hardly think I'm alone in that. normal libido man will always have a higher sex drive than a normal libido woman. The assertion here isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:02 AM
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Again, that's a textbook example of "no true scotsman". Why isn't my existence as a low(er) libido man relevant to the claim that men have higher libido? As a proportion of men posting in this thread, It seems a pretty significant statistical indication. And given the discriminatory language ("confessed"? are you implying its some sort of crime or flaw?) of this conversation I doubt others would come forward,
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 01:40 AM
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Guys who are not 'chad' may not be having sex with supermodels but they still find their ugly ass partners attractive enough to get their dick hard. Uh, yeah. Exactly my point. And? Are you implying my dick isn't hard when I fuck my partner to multiple orgasms once a week? Also I did not discount that low libido men exist. I'm stating that if a man claims that the women he has sex with are hornier than him, he either has a low libido or is not that attracted to the women he's having sex with. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 01:22 AM
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According to the hypergamy / "women punch up" theory, that's just who guys who aren't "Chad" have sex with. It's an unavoidable mathematical result of that assertion. Given that it is a common social occurance, it seems silly to claim it as part of a special circumstance that should be discounted when arguing this point. And anyhow.... so what? Are you saying you should ignore what they say? Why, because "no TRUE Scotsman..."? Seriously, dsiscounting men who have low libidos when arguing that me…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 12:49 AM
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I'm not claiming otherwise, though it's in the healthy range (I've asked doctors, had blood tests etc). I'm happy with (and generally have) sex once a week, maybe twice when exited about a new relationship (have currently been ion one almost exactly 2 years, 1st date anniversary aproaching). That may be a low libido, but I'd wager it's a more active sex life than many who post here. It used to be more active, but I'm 50. I also tend to be drawn to women with strong sex drives as a matter of sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 12:23 AM
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"Ok just disregard all of the factual information presented and resort to ad hominem attacks and call men virgins 🤣 at least make a minimal amount of effort" - u/Ponderosa-Chef link
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 11:26 PM
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if women wanted sex so badly then they would pay for it. The lack of m4f prostitution isn't down to women not wanting sex less than men. They want proof of their desirability more than men do. That's much harder to sell.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 09:59 PM
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Given the way my female sexual partners describe past male partners, I gotta think I'm more selective as to who I smash. Not sure it's relevant, but relative obesity figures would tend to indicate men are also more selective about what they I eat than women, on average. I know I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 09:53 PM
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I'm pretty sure I've met women hornier than I am. Most of my partners want sex more often than I do. How can anyone still argue women are anywhere near as horny as men? Because personal experience having sex with them. You might argue about averages etc. But If there's any overlap between healthy individuals, then I'd say the general populations are "near". I’m pretty sure sexual harassment, rape and hitting on your employees ... If sexual satisfaction was the goal of those behaviors, you wouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 09:18 PM
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Your score is 2, out of 40 Lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 06:05 PM
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Sociopaths are naturally good at mimicry, fitting in, tacit communication ... They don't need TRP. Some are, some aren't. I would say a lot of the guys you describe as "on the spectrum" could easily be low-skill sociopaths. Sociopaths aren't inherently better at deceptive social interaction, they just don't have any impulse not to exploit what ability they do have. If TRP actually gives accurate predictions about responses, they absolutely would benefit from it. And this is probably one reason w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:27 PM
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That's actually one of the arguments that sex workers make. Tinder even bans sex workers, so they are effectively like a pimp who takes a 100% cut. The same applies to some other types of platform as well. On the other hand, there's a long history of things like nightclubs having differential pricing, preferential admission (free or just selective), etc. Is what Tinder does comparable? Maybe. The fact is, if you have a free account on Tinder, you are the product they are selling. If you don't se…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 01:42 PM
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As somebody who IS into multiple "fetishes"... there's nothing hot about a kink you don't enjoy. Sex that fills all your needs, with somebody who enjoys those things, is hot. Regardless of what those needs are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 01:07 PM
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Er... no? I mean, I'm a really good match for some folks and do my best to make them happy sexually and in a relationship, but I don't think that there's any contest / competition to make that connection happen. On the other hand, what I'm reading here and elsewhere makes it look like the bar is awfully low, and my "value" very high.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 01:05 PM
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I'd give the researches enough credit to assume they corrected for age, marital status etc before claiming to find a difference linked to weight. Hopefully the writer of that upi article would not ignore such a glaring research failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 12:36 PM
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I'm in a community where sex is often as abundant as water, and it just isn't the case that it makes people happy I'm a member of my local (mostly straight) kink community. There's a notable happiness level between people in active sexual relationships, and those not. It's not that people can't adapt to being without. It's more... they really, really do want a connection with somebody. I wouldn't say sex is abundant there, but it's not hard to arrange if that's all you want. People usually want …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 04:04 AM
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It's not so much the sex, as access to sex and the implied social & emotional acceptance that gives. Knowing you don't have the option for the sort of sex you want due to social circumstance, really sucks. Your quarantine situation is not a potentially life long situation that results from your social standing / skills, so is much less problematic. I've done sexless years both while single and married, and really would prefer not to. I suppose if I had some very strong personal interest (which c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 03:57 AM
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Some tall guys honestly do like it. I'm 6'2" and am perfectly happy with a woman a foot shorter than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 03:48 AM
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It's actually the other men who can't deny.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 03:45 AM
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physical preferences and requirements for a partner preferences - shorter, curves, no pubes. Good sense of style. requirements - I've practically got no requirements that relate only to looks (sexual tastes are my main requirement). Decent hygine, and doesn't weigh significantly more than I do (I don't care re exact weight, is more a body feel thing). Which given I'm 220, is a pretty big allowance that really only blocks girls who are both tall and chunky. In practice, very few partners have tip…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 03:44 AM
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Do you resemble one of these men? Broadly and even in some specifics, yes. A bit older, but those are old pictures... even Trent doesn't look like those men any more. preference would be tattoos, piercings, and waist length hair. yes, yes, no. (assumptions already made about average size working dick and hygiene). 90th percentile on both. Good to know I'm on the right track...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 03:28 AM
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I’ve read that lots of ppd guys here want any girl they would take seriously to sleep with them quickly. But isn’t it a red flag if she does that? For me, no. Why would she quickly go from strangers to lover with you? Some people need romance / mutual connection sex in order to establish sexual attraction, some need to experience sexual attraction in order to establish a basis for romance. I'm personally the later sort and relate well to partners who are the same. You ideally want the girl to ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 03:08 AM
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I wouldn't say "negative feelings" but there's dates I've been on where I realized there wasn't any reason to see each other again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 12:37 AM
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When we both could’ve figured that out beforehand. My experience is, I can't. Somebody can come off as smoking hot over text and be a total flop in person. Or somebody who I was luke-warm about over text, ends up being a red hot ticket for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 12:35 AM
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The Red Pill has this idea that when men are talking with women online, they should be texting solely to set up dates, time to meet, day to meet etc. And not bother with the whole "getting to know someone" over text because the idea is that that's the entire point of the date, you get to know them when you meet in person rather than just texting them for a few days before asking them out. Not "red pill", but I roughly feel the same. I date to see if there is a feeling of chemistry and mutual int…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 12:32 AM
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Realistically, I get the impression this isn't an actual question, and is more of a rant. Not sure how to answer, since I'm not in the demographic / interest group you describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 12:23 AM
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Sleeves seem, if having any effect, likely to be a wealth indicator. They show you had a few thousand to splash out on a luxury purchase. Personally I can't justify the cost, lacking any strong aesthetic / symbolic motivation (the only reason I get ink). personally I have four decently large tattoos, mostly non visible when clothed (upper arms / legs). I don't think it's ever been a factor in somebody wanting to get with me. Same for my dick piercings, but maybe that's not the sort of "cool" you…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 12:06 AM
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Therefore, if many women are having sex with few men, it's the few men who are the real gatekeepers. This is because if these men weirdly decided to go celibate, the amount of sex happening would presumably drop like a rock. Assuming you buy into the 80/20 assumption, it seems likely the women would just move on to the next 20% of men. In your assertion that it is an even smaller fraction, that is even easier to do, with less change in standards. I predict that there wouldn't be a new 20% to tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 11:58 PM
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Does BDSM or some fetishes being practiced consensually end up effecting their relationship dynamics outside the bedroom? Good question. Do you know of any research on the topic? As a long term member of BDSM communities and enjoyer of such activities, my answer would be "sometimes, but mostly in good ways or for those who want it". Plenty of people (I'd count myself among them) go for kinky play and roles in the bedroom, with no unusual / fetishized interest in carrying those over to daily life…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 11:31 PM
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Now it becomes crystal clear what happened. No, now you can make up a story that confirms your personal bias. We still know nearly nothing about their personalities, motivations, etc. Saying weight is the prime determinant in such a case is extremely reductive and makes unsupported assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 06:55 PM
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That's not evidence, its confirmation bias. The difference in the cited survey is quite small.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 06:47 PM
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From your (very abreviated) source: Ninety-two percent of overweight women reported having a history of sexual intercourse with a man, as opposed to 87 percent of women with a normal body mass index. A 5% difference when sampling ... what demographic? Seems you'd be hard pressed to notice that in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 06:46 PM
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Using tools to bind people up to reach a sexual high is dopamine chasing. You aren't wrong, but that's an accurate description of most of life. If you didn't have dopamine as a motivator, you would starve to death. It's true even more so for the person being tied up. Kink educators often speak about altered mental states and the effects of various (combinations of) neurotransmiters and signal hormones. It's a fully acknowledged and intentionally utilized process, just as muscle "damage" is in we…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 04:28 PM
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Um, I guess? Realism says to accept that common behavior is common, and manage to appreciate people and live has well as possible anyhow.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 03:49 PM
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Sadomasochism is at least as normal as homosexuality, and as universal to history / cultures. It isn't inherently healthy or unhealthy. If I've learned anything from this forum, it's that a lot of non kinky people have very unhealthy sexual attitudes, so... pot, kettle.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 03:46 PM
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That's the literal definition of kink shaming. To me it looks is similar to saying "a man needing to have sex with another man to get off... somethings wrong with that". And TBH, a lot of my sex life is pretty conventional looking. It might look a bit like slightly rough porn, but less so than some "vanilla" porn that involves facials, anal, etc. It's more important that my partner accepts that there is that side of me, and enjoys it occasionally. To me, what gets normal people off looks kinda w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 03:42 PM
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Good question. I'd suspect for the same reason's anybody of any gender settles for a partner who is not their ideal / raises red flags, and aren't always honest with them. Being alone is a powerful motivator for creating a social and sexual connection, even if it is a compromised / risky one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 03:34 PM
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Sorry, but that's bullshit. I watch less porn now than 10 years ago, and masturbate maybe once a month tops (went 6 mos once). I have an active and happy partner. I've been kinky for 30+ years. I lost my virginity tying my GF up when I was 18. I'm 50 now. My tastes and habits have not changed significantly in that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 03:27 PM
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Not really, and if so, so what? Sex of any sort involves deeper psychology. I'm a consenting, ethical sadist who has a history of multiple happy partners with people who actively seek that sort of sex. That is not considered a psychological disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 03:25 PM
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Compared to most people, no. The quantity of porn I have watched / seen seem normal or even on the low side. I just don't enjoy conventional porn much. Even when fairly young, I was drawn to media (usually non-porn) that had kinkier subtext.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 03:22 PM
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I'd recommend playing it after as well. Or, just actually be a sex positive liberal man...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 02:45 PM
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I could apply that claim to a lot of guys I meet - like, 10% or so. Which I guess is how you'd define a "10" on a 1-10 scale. And a lot of successful male actors are short, or ugly. Sometimes both. But yeah, I probably can fall in that 10% when I put in some effort (grooming etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 02:39 PM
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relationships are fake No. Like all human interactions and mindsets, they are constructed. Learn to construct ones that help you enjoy life, and you will be much happier in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 02:33 PM
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Men avoid telling their girlfriends about their past sexual and romantic experiences too. In my experience, much more so. Women can be extremely insecure about hearing that a past partner was good / is remembered well in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 02:31 PM
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I can't imagine a guy caring about your past if you guys have a bomb sex life up until that point. Possible. I have noticed a correlation between how good sex is, and how much my partners tell me about past partners. On the other hand, that also cuts the other way. If she is comfortable communicating with you and disclosing "sexual secrets", that allows for / creates more intimacy and better sex. So maybe if the new guy was open to listening to her, the sex would be hotter. Or maybe both are tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 02:25 PM
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It seems self evident that a lot of men do want to be with a whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 02:19 PM
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You want a housewife? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 02:18 PM
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Yet women do lie about their sexual history. Not to men they think are secure about it and actually care to know without judging them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 02:07 PM
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Do whips and restraints count? None of my partners complain when I bring those.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 01:22 PM
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As a male who has violent kinks... best thing ever for my sex life. Probably because normal sex doesn't work well for me, but also because learning how to find willing partners yanked me out of the normal dating path without pushing any ideology on me, and showed me that both sides can have trouble finding what they want. The only judgement I've faced is internalized, plus maybe one flame on a mainstream dating app from some idiot who matched me despite my profile being rather clear on my intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 01:10 PM
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the fact that is so normal for men to spend hours and hours every day watching all sorts of porn That's an opinion / assumption. It is not a fact unless you can provide data to support it. You aren't making a point with that hyperbolic claim, you are pushing a point of view / agenda. Most guys never have the problem you claim to have the solution for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 12:59 PM
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The IQ part applies to those that qualify as psychopaths. Less extreme sociopaths and narcissists tend to have the same average IQ as general population. But since most psycopaths are also sociopaths and narcissists, that skews the results down. Same for income. Rich people tend to be psycopaths, but that doesn't mean psycopaths tend to be rich. Almost by definition, psycopaths have poor impulse control and lack of long range planning.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:05 PM
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Disturbingly often, actually... Sociopaths and narcissists tend to have high N counts, but it is statistically a strong predictor of lower income, lower IQ, failed relationships, lack of self control, criminal history, addiction, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 02:20 PM
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almost every high value man has high n count. I suspect that's ultimately circular logic, since the way red pill defines "value" is the ability to easily get a partner. Which can only be proven by getting multiple partners. Show them a decent low count guy and they WILL find a way to justify lowering his value. Heck, they do it for their own value to justify their own low count.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 02:17 PM
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I hate that I'm becoming more RP the more I read this fucking subreddit. Then don't. You are echoing a bunch of assumptions as if they are facts, when they are just opinion and in many case based on false (per common data) assertions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 02:13 PM
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That's not what I see on maps I've looked at. It's not just "rural states" or "southern states" or any other geographic figure. Michigan comes in as high as any "deep south" state, and in many ways is similar in its rural / urban mix, demographics, etc. You could try to blame Detroit for that, but MI has rural counties with rates just as high as the metro areas counties. I just know the geography & demogrpahics of Michigan fairly well, so its the only one I've looked at on the county level. New …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 01:10 PM
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College campuses are overwhelmingly liberal and they are hotbeds of sexual abuse. Cities are also liberal and have very high rates of catcalling and similarly inappropriate behavior. Both are also densely populated areas with identifiable boundaries and names, so sure, there's more reported there and you can associate it with them. As a state, Alaska has the highest rates of rape, sexual assault, and domestic abuse in the nation, but is hardly urban or liberal. I think the causes have very littl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 01:07 AM
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Even taking all promise of future commitment out of the equation and when its clear that it was a one time thing. That's a hypothetical I can't engage in. I don't do that. If it's only going to be a one time thing, I pass on the option. I don't think I've ever had sex with somebody who was previously a friend or other associate, so also can't address that. It's always been somebody I was dating, usually with sex as a likely goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 12:39 AM
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Sure. I judge people all the time. Their beliefs lead them to act in ways that make themselves and others unhappy, and degrades society in general. Isn't the point of debate to change beliefs? People here talk all the time about how the beliefs and judgements of others affect their feelings, why should I be different?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 04:39 PM
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I don't like to use the term at all except when referencing a specific quantitative attribute. When I see somebody using it relative to "relationship potential" all I know is they assume you can line people up along some single axis, and they consider equal value people on that axis to be fungible in relationship terms. Which... Ugh, no, that's not just bullshit, it's kinda sad and gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 03:30 PM
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A 5 or 6 should be average, if there is an equal distribution from 1-10. Which in the US means chunky or even obese. If you put all overweight women at 4 or less, the scale will be bottom heavy... No pun intended.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 03:18 PM
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6'2", 220 lbs
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 02:19 PM
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Was very much chance in my case, plus the fact that I don't do conventional dating. We started off with an open relationship, and she has slept with other people even while we were living together. I don't think red pill would take THAT as a strategy for landing a younger woman...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 11:28 AM
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The money part is really the rare thing from what I've seen (which granted, is limited). I'm over 6 ft. Nowhere near 6 figures, excepting one brief year where I landed an absurdly good paying contracting gig which I still owe taxes for. Now less than half that. 6 Pack vanished in my late 40's when I got that cushy high pay job, but at one point I was 5% body fat (and very poor - I was in amazing shape from bicyling 10 miles each way to a job loading trucks for FedEx, and ate well but cheaply). A…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 11:08 PM
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There's always exceptions. I'm 50. My GF is 33. Red pill ideology had nothing to do with that. I'm still very "no pill". Has my "value" gone down? Probably. When I was 35, I was banging a 45 year old hottie... and also living with my 2 girlfriends (one older than me, one younger). No, I'm not rich. I am rather tall and decently good looking (maybe very good looking - I have a cousin who was a fashion model).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 11:00 PM
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Very different if he loses a regular old street fight Very different if he GETS IN a regular old street fight. Very few people end up in street fights without escalating the conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 01:43 AM
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Right this way through the time machine...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 11:04 AM
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“inner city” men most likely to commit violence against women Citation? Looks to me like rural states have higher rates of rape. I'd expect other violence (domestic violence in particular) to follow the trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 03:45 AM
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I think Gen Z are good kids and some of the most educated on prevention of STDs Gen X got the AIDS epidemic & government denial as a highschool graduation present. Thanks boomers, glad you had fun at those coke fueled disco orgies!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 03:38 AM
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Citation needed. Statistics I've seen indicate otherwise. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n.htm#numberlifetime
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 03:15 AM
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15 puts a woman in the top 10%, by that same statistical resource. Personally I'm OK with that or even prefer it, but assuming you don't... I'd say the standard deviation must be pretty large. Anyhow, there's much better criteria to judge a partner on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 03:04 AM
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Men here constantly keep talking about ... Can you be more specific? Like, this is a debate forum, so I'd assume there's men who do not feel that way. I know I sure as hell don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 03:03 AM
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My partner count at the age of a current millennial was about that - maybe lower than 5, certainly lower than 8. I'm 50 now and its still under 20 (afaik, never been a body counter). I just had one or two early ones who were adventuresome and frequent, because I sought that out. Which is something red pill would say to avoid... The topic here is men with liberal upbringings, not average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:19 PM
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But this post is specifically looking at why those exceptions happen. I had very liberal parents, in sexual terms anyhow. Most don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:11 PM
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Most men don't get the choice to experiment and explore in this area. Uh... I did. By age 20 I'd already done things most of my later partners (many 30+ years old) had never tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:02 PM
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trying his best to get her back, and I soon discovered that he was a RedPiller. Doesn't sound like he understood it... like, at all. Critical fail to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:32 PM
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1) Yes 2) No
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:25 PM
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While I agree in principle, life experience has shown me you need to put some energy to find paths to new pleasures. Hiring a prostitute satisfies a brief sexual urge. Spend that same money on (for my personal example) a motorcycle and travel, and you are better off in the long run mentally, AND have increased your odds of having the sex you really wanted. But don't do it for the sex - do something you actually value. If your only passions are sex, you always are chasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:44 PM
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if it's a choice between accepting a shitty deal because of thirst and fucking hookers the latter is way less destructive But that's a dilema of ones own making, and is (potentially) a self perpetuating trap. Don't accept either. Also wet dick feels good If you say the option for getting it is "less destructive"... its still destructive. Don't engage in self destructive behaviors because they "feel good".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:24 AM
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Beauty fads are a female vs female pecking order competition, and rarely have anything to do with male tastes. Men put up with them and use them to judge a woman's social status, but sexually they only really care about fundamentals of sexual dimorphism.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:22 AM
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better off fucking hookers to fill the dry spells than accepting misery I would say if your dry spells are misery, that's a problem that may be the cause of your dry spells. Have a life that means something without the need for a sexual partner. Spend that money on hobbies or self improvement or even just savings, not on a hooker. If you can make yourself happy and satisfied, you are much more likely to attract partners... ending that dry spell.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:13 AM
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You wanna be that guy. So don't waste time with girls you aren't that guy for. Why are you even going on a second date if you aren't? Isn't figuring that out the point of going on a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:09 AM
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That's an amazing percentage. Below average in what way? As men in general? Which studies? I'm gonna assume he's applying the ones that refer to women judging male attractiveness. Seems quite out of context, but not out of character for this sub. https://www.google.com/search?q=woemn+find+men+below+average
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:58 AM
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It seems ... It feels Things don't seem and feel that way to me because the way I meet men is through my work (decent paying blue collar industrial jobs) and social life (which literally invovles going to workshops about sexual interests etc). I mean sure, a majority want time to relax and enjoy life once they take care of basic needs... but so do I. That just makes sense IMO. In the past that just would have been drinking (alcoholism used to be much more common) and the same avoidant behavior. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:54 AM
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LOL. Yeah, it sucked, though obviously if you have a friend you know is crazy, you don't build your life to rely on them. He wasn't somebody I'd take as a role model. His relationships were always train wrecks. I'd argue he WANTED to be "blue pill", but simply was to crazy / hedonistic to stick to it. He certainly wasn't "red pill" - he seriously believed in romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:39 AM
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claiming that subconsciously you believe you've procreated every time you have sex. I actually said the opposite - that the subconscious has no idea at all if mating resulted in procreation. That's literally the entire point I was making! So, that's what is rhetorically known as a "straw man".... I haven't taken a stance at all Seems like you just did about, by taking a stance questioning a claim I never made. Anyhow, its clear you aren't questioning in good faith, or lack basic reading comprehe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:17 AM
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What would you accept as evidence? You are the one proposing the null hypothesis, so propose the test. Do I need an interview with the subconscious? I'd say my hypothesis is quite reasonable. Much more so than many claims in this sub. Do you question them all this way? Please provide links to comment history if you claim you do. Sex & orgasm has a biochemical effect on the brain; we know that effects emotional state and other things connected to the subconscious. Sex is an urge that can be satis…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:10 AM
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Can you please first scientifically explain how your subconscious would NOT believe you have mated? The mating / attempt at procreation itself is the reward. Otherwise you'd need to wait 9+ months for sex to actually be enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:58 AM
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Do you seriously not know what the subconscious is, or is that a rhetorical technique to force me to waste time to explain terms? I don't need any more basis for supporting my claim than you need to question it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:44 AM
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Bipolar? My bipolar friend in high school landed more pussy (and hotter) than I ever managed. Of course, he killed himself when we were 21... but hey, bipolar isn't holding you back from getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:39 AM
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Subconsciously I'd say a man does, yeah. And it also gives your subconscious the signal that you are successfully making that effort. My subconscious mind doesn't know I've had a vasetomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:36 AM
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No strings attached sex with multiple people? If someone is willing to go home and sleep with you on either the first date or just for a one night stand Eh, that assumes first date sex is good sex. IMO it is not. Good sex takes communications and work. I can't just haul out the whips and chains without taking some measurements first, figuring out how easily they bruise, what sort of whips they like, etc. That's a couple dates before I even am sure I want to do it. It's simple, being the guy she …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:31 AM
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Why won’t women admit that looks matter? Because women see looks as a touchy subject that they would prefer avoiding. That's dodging the question in a circle - it's just saying they won't admit it because they don't want to talk about (admit) it. Why do they see it as touchy, and why do they prefer to avoid that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:03 AM
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TRP makes a hell of a lot of assumptions about what a man wants. Which I think is one reason it has rather narrow acceptence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:41 PM
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COVID.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 12:03 PM
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Now days, people just join Fetlife, a website that bills itself as "kinky facebook". Has loads of event listings (fewer since 2020 though). Originally... I was living in LA in 1989 and went to one of the first body piercing studios, and they invited me to join a local kink organization. Or you'd see flyers in related sex / leather shops etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 11:09 AM
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You may be have been platonic, but you are also erotic at that point. That's what those words mean, "vibe" or no.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:58 PM
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I'd argue the the fact she enjoys his fetish makes her more sexually attractive to him. That's speaking as somebody who has attended organized BDSM events on and off for 32 years...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:53 PM
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Not knowing any I can't say. Seems the sort of question somebody to lazy to use Google would ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:46 PM
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Breasts matter very little to sexual enjoyment. They are a social trophy / maternal fitness indicator so get play when dating... but if a guy wants to suck NSA, why would he worry about small vs big tits?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:31 PM
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We've all seen "1000 lb sisters", yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:24 PM
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Sex research has failed to find a statistical link between trauma and kinky sex behavior, and indicates that far from being insane, people who like kinky sex have lower neurotic impulses.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:14 PM
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There are men and women who have had sex with animals, children and dead people. I would argue that's a case of rejecting "normal" partners. It's literally impossible to meet those standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:11 PM
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I thinks sex addict might. That's what addiction is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:06 PM
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I'd say yes. If you don't have a life dream of raising kid eventually, you aren't gonna suddenly develop that need. Don't let a partner pressure (or trick) you into a situation where you find you are an unmotivated parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 03:01 PM
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There are way fewer young women than young men actively seeking sex and relationships. In aggregate, men are more professionally successful than women I don't think that's true for the demographic you originally addressed. Fewer men than women attend college now. The jobs young men traditionally could make good money in are rarer. Maybe your implication is that young women are looking at older men, but that doesn't seem part of your thesis. Anyhow, the simple fact that young women are putting ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 11:19 AM
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Nice downvote on my other reply. Rule 12. Lmao purple pill debate is hilarious everyone there is so angry whenever you say something that slightly contradicts their predetermined opinions LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 12:36 AM
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Be assertive about approaching guys (who are open to an approach) and nailing down a date / sex. Show some value in areas other than looks - social connections /leadership, unusually good in bed, helpful in making their lives easier and better, etc. It's really that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 12:25 AM
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Simps do us all a favour by babysitting emotionally needy women and carrying the emotional and financial burden for the rest of us. I disagree. If there wasn't the easily found option of that support network, more of them might straighten out their shit and support themselves. Or at least they would be easily detected failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 12:21 AM
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I just don’t think that there’s some group of guys banging like 10 girls a week each which is what op seems to think No, but there's a lot of single guys who would be happy with casual sex but are banging like 0-1 girls a YEAR.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 12:07 AM
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What do you think? Is the 80/20 rule really that well established? I think if you've given this much thought to it and still can't find support... there isn't any.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 11:29 PM
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How does a dark triad type look? I've never heard any connection to appearance. Anyhow... yes, social presentation always has elements of performance. Ideally you find one you are comfortable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:04 PM
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Who says she went 0/30? She may have had some second dates, it didn't say. Plus, she wasn't looking for ltr or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:15 PM
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My take is that a feminine looking short dude with brown skin was able to land about 30 dates in 18 months, setting them up mostly over the internet. So what's all that noise about how big a deal height / masculine looks / race are on dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 12:37 PM
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Cowardice in facing the social pressure, and maybe a bit of intimidation re ability to "hold down" somebody who has experience. However, there's enough swingers and married porn stars out there that I think this is at best a big slice, and by no means all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 06:16 PM
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She could also get abducted by aliens before you see her again. Real world probability is that you will get that chance. Base your behavior on that, not the edge cases. There are no garuantees in life. Just accept the risk and live it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 04:28 PM
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The premise is... skewed. "Sex" is not a level on the pyramid of needs. "Love and belonging" is. What you describe are ways to gratify a sexual adiction, but they fail at gaining love and belonging. That's why they aren't common choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 04:12 PM
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My personal experience is women don't hold off. There's no problem getting to know somebody AFTER having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 03:38 PM
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Any examples of men who are hypergamous Pretty self evident in all the out of shape guys who "won't date chicks".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 03:09 PM
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Men seem to value looks more than anything else, like chemistry/love. They don't, or at least the smart ones don't. Most guys (who aren't single) do exactly the "threshold" thing you fldescibe, only more so.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 02:55 PM
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And? The question is what holds me back. I gave mylegit answer. Anyhow, I was single for a long time. Like. A 5 year dry spell in my 20's. I didn't change anything except I started approaching & asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 12:47 PM
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I'm a pretty average guy with good and bad aspects. Certainly not up to many women's standards, just not the sort others want. My standards are basically a) they want to date me b) we can manage a decent social connection c) compatible sexual tastes. I have some dry spells and failures, but not anything like the total negative expectations people post here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 12:24 PM
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Nothing. I have had some (very) successful relationships. And failures, but that's normal. I'm literally a divorced 50 year old man with a (part time) kid, failed career, bad teeth, impending debts, and a taste for giving hard spankings. If I can do a relationship (coming up on 2 years now) its probably not that hard for the average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 04:22 AM
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Out of curiosity how do you externally signal that you can give women orgasms? Won't help. Expectations are mostly based on her prior experience. However, a good start is vocally discussing sexual consent and preferences. Which is awkward for most folks, but pretty much a given in BDSM community.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 11:54 PM
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Makes sense. I'm a guy, don't like casual sex because I rarely (can't recall ever) reach orgasm the first time I have sex with somebody. Also never had any trouble making them come 9even just PiV) but have a taste for more sexually outgoing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 11:43 PM
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Those are only fetishes if you want them to be (usually as a way to sell the porn you make). Otherwise they are just garden variety "ejaculation during coitus" and "oral sex" - good fun, but no different from other normal, healthy sexual acts (or being turned on by a woman's butt).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:38 AM
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Yes, you do seem to go in circles with your logic when explaining your beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:15 AM
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No, but I'm also not trying to have sex with the instagram girl, and it would be physically impossible for "millions of men" to do so. And in any case, you said that situation was "totally different from attraction". Do you want to have sex when there's nothing at all like attraction between you and your partner? Does that make your clam drip?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:01 AM
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Thats an obsession and it’s abnormal, it’s totally different from attraction. That's you talking about men looking at women. Fetishes have to do with sex, you can check out a muscular man, does not mean you want to have sex with him because of his muscles. So, if neither is about attraction, how is one a fetish and the other not?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:42 AM
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How do you know what is in most men's minds? Most men also constantly check out how muscular other men they see are. Does that mean straight men have a fetish for other men's muscles?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:34 AM
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There's a big difference between being sexually attracted to somebody who has a nice ass / enjoying pictures of people's butts, and being obsessed. Given how frequently my GF compliments my ass, I also have to wonder about your assertion that this does not affect women. The sign in our kitchen that says "the chef has a nice ass" was purchased by her, and I do all the cooking. The one group of people I can think of who are legitimately obsessed with female tits and ass are drag queens, most of wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:14 AM
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it doesn't make anything in particular for me Then it's not a fetish. If it were, it would be not just "special" but practically mandatory for an enjoyable sexual encounter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 11:25 PM
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If you think that is a problem all men have to a level that affects mental (or maybe you mean physical) health, I'd say maybe you are the one with the obsession. In any case, you keep bouncing between "abnormal" and "unhealthy". A fetish is not defined as something unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 11:20 PM
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Which you call a fetish because it is not something women have, and hence "abnormal". I suppose men wanting to use their penis during sex is also a fetish?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 11:15 PM
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So you are saying, by not being like women, man are abnormal? I mean, women being 51% of the population, I guess that is statistically true.... just insanely sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 11:14 PM
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Abnormal compared to whom? Who is the "normal" example in this case?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 11:08 PM
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Having sex with lots of different people doesn't mean being good at it. True, if you simply passively / greedily go through biological motions. But having sex with very few people means you have less experience adapting to different needs, communicating your own needs, etc. Which is why I referred to "experience" and not "body count". Quite the opposite, actually. Citation needed. It might hold for people who compulsively have one night stands. But somebody who's have 10-20 partners, with an ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 11:00 PM
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I'm not the one claiming the majority of men do that. Maybe your perception of the male mind / behavior is wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 10:47 PM
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I think we must have a different definition of "abnormal" then. Healthy or not, if most (or even a sizable minority of) people do something, I'd say it is not abnormal. Honestly, it sounds like you just don't like the behavior, and label sexual behavior you don't like as "fetish".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 10:01 PM
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He prefers a bust-to-waist ratio of around 2. He better start looking for women into wearing very tight corsets, then. I'd say the qualities for that are knowing where to find / how to fit into your local fetish, goth, and RenFest scenes. Alternately he could be wealthy and encourage women he connects with to get large implants at his expense. Math quibbles aside, most of what you said applies realistically at 1.5. I'm pretty sure in the back of people's minds they'd be like "Well that's not fai…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 09:38 PM
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I think before the advent of the internet, women (and men) just used other routes to get the same effect. For evidence, exhibit 1 would be the entire decade of 1970...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 09:19 PM
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They just decided to settle for less than ideal partners due to the scarcity of decent partners. That's a opinionated value judgement though. If what you are looking for is somebody who is really good in bed ... well, that is also surprisingly scarce, but experience generally increases the chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 09:15 PM
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What if you are the prostitute and somebody pays you for sex? Does that also not count?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 09:06 PM
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Do most men do that? If so... you are saying most men have abnormal behaviors and obsessions?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 09:04 PM
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qualities associated to high number, like openness to new experience or kinky For men at least, being kinky does not imply a high number of partners. If anything, a true need for kink is a drawback when seeking a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:59 PM
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I have not noticed that. My personal experience is that people with lots of sexual experience, want to get with other people who are the same. Especially if those experiences are positive. Like draws like, and practice makes perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:56 PM
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How can I be. Hell, lets look at it again... a form of sexual desire in which gratification is linked to an abnormal degree to a particular object, item of clothing, part of the body, etc. You claim men check out women they have no intent on sleeping with. So how is that linked to "a form of sexual desire in which gratification is linked to an abnormal degree"? Where is the gratification? And again, if most men do it, how is it abnormal? What you are describing is not "a fetish" as any psycholog…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:47 PM
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it is saying that your obsession has to be beyond a heathy amount. No, as you pointed out, it has to be to "an abnormal degree". If most men have the degree of obsession you claim, then it is normal. Plenty of fetishes are harmless and healthy, just abnormal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:33 PM
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To an ABNORMAL DEGREE. MOST men, are constantly checking out women, even their teachers, people they have NO INTENT on sleeping with. Most men are doing it. It's the norm for men. Literally the meaning of "normal". Normal does not mean "healthy" or "what you would personally prefer".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:24 PM
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Which again, by definition, makes it not a fetish. Most people want a sex partner with a good personality - is that a personality fetish?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:19 PM
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A lot is not most. That's moving the goalposts. And breaking rule 12.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:15 PM
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fet·ish a form of sexual desire in which gratification is linked to an abnormal degree to a particular object, item of clothing, part of the body, etc. Again by definition, "most" can not be "abnormal". Also, see rule 12: No downvotes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:12 PM
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Women who enjoy turning men on with their feet. Quite a few women are turned off by a foot fetish, but some enjoy it. A lot of times the ones who are turned off, it comes down to rather crude, dishonest behaviors by fetishists they have met.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:46 PM
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Generally no. There are some fetishes that are more common among women than men, and some that are roughly equally common, but feet are much more common for men than women. There may be a fair number who enjoy it as "givers" though, like you aunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:42 PM
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By definition. They wouldn't call it a fetish if most men were like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:37 PM
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I don't think it is instinctive. It's socially learned. Find me a man raised outside society if you want to disprove that. Also, there actually are some cultures where it really doesn't matter. Polynesian culture generally didn't put any value on female chastity, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 05:40 PM
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From what I've seen, it doesn't. It assumes a very homogenous population that puts the same value on the same things in both life and partners. It's "spherical cow in a vacuum" level social theory, only worse because those assumptions are usually pretty biased / far from average. And yeah, any successful counter-exceptions that do come up are dismissed, usually as pathological.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 04:58 PM
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Define "most" and "average". I say that because (by definition) half are above average, half below. Unless maybe you define average as within X deviations from standard mean... And in the context, "average" is nebulous. People value different things differently, so "hot" to one might be "not" to another.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 03:06 AM
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women's sexuality tends to be inherently reactive. Er... no? In any case there's exceptions, and some guys prefer that segment. Which is probably the better course: take the tack that gets you the sort of response / approach you enjoy. edit - wow, multiple people are breaking the rules of this sub because...?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 02:57 AM
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It's worked pretty well for me. I'm decent looking and employed, but by no means wealthy or unusually muscular / attractive / well groomed. I have had long dry spells though... and a couple wild years of threesomes etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 02:55 AM
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Not even hardly. One point of evidence: that's a pretty common female fantasy in the kink community. It's also one of the least commonly enacted role play scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 02:44 AM
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Meanwhile most straight men I've seen tend to vocalize their attraction more like... Ugh, that sounds more like you are desrcibing most LOUD MOUTHED straight men you've HEARD. And they aren't talking about what attracts them to those women - they are pumping ego by talking about how masculine their attraction is, and what a trophy they theoretically could bag. In reality - yeah, men are largely drawn in by attitude and pick their own quirky features to be drawn to. And yeah, we like big butts to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 02:40 AM
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Sounds like she already has moved on. You should too. What else do you have in your life besides fatherhood and the marriage? I'm very different from you in that I married in my late 30's so I find myself looking back at things I might have done back then if I did not get married. Some I still want and am returning to, some I have moved past.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/18 01:52 AM
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You just do it. Call them, tell them not to come. Lie about going someplace if you prefer.
/r/Divorce_Men21/11/18 04:49 AM
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You aren't, but plenty of others who share your opinion are. Well, maybe not "infiltrate", since it was the default opinion of those institutions for most of the last century. Besides which, if somebody believes other's opinions harm them, what is the correct course of action? To NOT try to spread what they believe is correct, and NOT sway government to act in line with what they feel is correct? I'm not sure which political groups you mean, but for the sake of discussion I'll take the figures y…
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 07:54 PM
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So they have an opinion and voice it... exactly like you?
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 06:29 PM
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Yeah, you'd think somebody who literally made a living being paid to pose for photos (nude and otherwise) would get that hey, you don't just snap a picture of somebody in a locker room. It seems very likely that at some point she has tried to block somebody from releasing pictures taken without her permission, or at least have heard of a case where somebody was doing so.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/05/17 02:38 PM
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Its pretty widely commented on in bicycle / jogging forums in regards to path use. But its also rare for men to be gathered in slow miving groups that might block the path, so while the women get bagged for that, men get bagged for dangerous passing. I've seen both happen. I don't spend enough time in places with heavy foot traffic to comment otherwise.
/r/TheRedPill11/05/17 01:52 PM
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Why do you need to understand anything relating to mentality from it? What does that gain you? If its a predictable behavior, you can act on that knowledge. It becomes an issue when they won't make room for me when I have my kid in babywearer and I can't dodge. Is that an issue you don't need or have already found a solution to? (Mine is to stand still or slow down a great deal; fewer people bump into somebody standing still, and slow movement shows you are unsure how to avoid a collision.)
/r/TheRedPill10/05/17 05:35 PM
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Starting families, creating systems, selling products, creating artwork, exploring the galaxy. These are the men history will remember as great. And the way we’ve prescribed the red pill, these men will never be us. These are generally the men who never needed TRP in the first place. They are part of the silent majority of quiet alphas, many of whom find TRP politics quite distasteful, and not because "brainwashing".
/r/TheRedPill10/05/17 05:21 PM
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No it isn't, which is why the late obsession with wealth inequality has vexed me. I don't know what it is now, but in 2015 something like $35,000 per year put you in the Global 1% The cost of living in the USA is a lot higher than many places where people have incomes closer to the world average. You do OK on $35K a year here, but in many countries you could live rather lavishly (excluding purchase of imported manufactured goods - you'd still have a cheap car or motorcycle, but getting it fixed …
/r/TheRedPill10/05/17 03:31 AM
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Chomsky himself is fairly left leaning, but his core analysis isn't really right or left. Its about how power is created, what it is used for, and who it historically has and currently benefits and harms. If you can get past his personaly preferences for ideology, his historic analysis is pretty good, though it has some large blind spots (namely Soviet and other efforts in the same arenas). There are plenty of countries with a lot more wealth equality than the U.S. that I wouldn't get caught dea…
/r/TheRedPill10/05/17 02:38 AM
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There's bound to be a certain environment shaped by history, policies, ideologies, culture, available resources, etc. No plot is necessary, and it isn't as nefarious as he and others make it seem. That was my point. But its not really him that makes it seem that way, its his fringe supporters & the straw men constructed by detractors. He DOES try to bring out the role media plays in that environment, and how it helps shape ideology, culture, etc, and who has say in who gets a job in media. I thi…
/r/TheRedPill10/05/17 12:38 AM
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You could ask the same about men. Most men have those same flaws. So no, turning gay isn't an answer. Have you SEEN the gay drama? Why „step up your game“, why develop complicated tactics and why, for gods sake, still chase them (or, to be honest, just their vaginas)? I never did. Was easy just to let em come to me, and avoid the ones that were trouble. Which to be honest, I failed at occasionally. I think there's something in many men wired to WANT to deal with this shit. IE, help with emotiona…
/r/TheRedPill09/05/17 11:04 PM
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a secretive cabal runs everything and "we the people" are too duped to overthrow him He never claims its a secretive cabal, but that its an environmental system that rewards certain decisions / attitudes and punishes others. And yes, it takes a huge effort to alter an entire socio-political environment, and yes, the wealthy have invested huge sums of money in doing exactly that, to their favor. Those are all pretty self evident truths. The CIA stuff is actually pretty nutty, and I'll admit inter…
/r/TheRedPill09/05/17 10:42 PM
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Each apathetic drone in my way is just less resistance for me on my path. I guess it depends what your path is. If your path is something that benefits from interacting with other engaged, aware individuals they can be an obstacle, and certainly don't provide less resistance.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/17 10:38 PM
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I don't think the first few years matter much if he's getting strong maternal support / attention. Once he hits 3-5 and actually cares about / starts to learn social roles outside of "who gives me food and cleans my poop" it might make sense, but sounds like there's a lot of drawbacks, and he'd gonna learn from the home environment. At 6+, as an alternative to what he sees in school? Yeah, even just a month or two a summer with relatives in the "old country" could be a HUGE influence.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/17 10:01 PM
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I've known multiple disabled guys who were pretty alpha. One is missing and arm and a good chunk of his lower leg from some sort of accident (no idea why, never asked him, but he's never mentioned being in the military and is a physics researcher & machinist). Another is actually a wheelchair user I worked for, who has muscular dystrophy and even needs help getting dressed. He's a successful journalist and playwrighter, as well as an activist for disabled folks who has been to Washington (and be…
/r/TheRedPill09/05/17 09:36 PM
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Bike messenger bag. Mine's big enough to hold a full size desk top computer. Or a welding helmet, shoes, and change of clothing. Have done both. On a motorcycle.
/r/MensRights22/07/16 08:56 PM
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The precedents have been in place for quite some time. Convictions of this sort are relatively rare, and there is a lot of precedent for people getting off (or never being charged) when they just "said something awful in passing." what if we have a case where a criminal gets off because he can prove he was "forced" to do something through somebody else's power of persuasion? That has also come up before, and rarely passes muster. It generally goes to competence (usually of a minor, or person wit…
/r/PussyPassDenied07/07/16 06:02 PM
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but being manipulative is very different than forcing somebody to do something. Yes, and the law reflects that difference. If she had used force instead of words to get him back into the truck, the charge could be first degree murder, just as any other premeditated use of force that results in death could be. The charge for "depraved heart murder" is usually manslaughter, though in some places it can be second degree murder in extreme cases. Shes not only charge with manslaughter, but INVOLUNTAR…
/r/PussyPassDenied07/07/16 05:49 PM
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What's the principle with which we are charging her with a crime for telling someone to do something? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depraved-heart_murder There's a very good reason for removing such people from society; they often choose careers that put them in caregiver / educator roles where they do vast but difficult to track harm. That is assuming they don't go into the finance industry or politics... As to the threshold, I'd say its pretty clearly crossed when you try to talk somebody back…
/r/PussyPassDenied07/07/16 03:46 PM
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At the very least it demonstrates depraved indifference to human life. She knew exactly what was happening and took no steps to prevent the death; she in fact encouraged it to happen. It's not really any different than if you handed somebody a gun to play Russian roulette with, and challenged them to pull the trigger. Sure, they " have the freedom to choose to listen or not", but that doesn't mean you aren't acting criminally. In her case, she even went so far as to cajole him into pulling the t…
/r/PussyPassDenied07/07/16 03:46 PM
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