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My insistence is because Athol answers your question specifically and give some valuable direction on the common potholes men experience along the way. Good luck, brother.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/14 02:39 PM
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Finish it. Now.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/14 12:03 PM
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Kinda amazed at the comments section...mostly blasting the biased writing and overt feminazi speak.
/r/TheRedPill03/04/14 01:45 AM
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I've learned with my wife as well, when in doubt err on the side of too firm/too much asshole...EVERY TIME
/r/TheRedPill16/03/14 06:10 PM
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This. When he told the story on O&A originally you could tell that's when it all started to turn. A fake rape beef would make me far more bitter than he was...
/r/askTRP14/03/14 11:36 PM
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LOL...Yeah, it's something I am respectful of when she's in a serious relationship...she and my wife are friends as well so that does make it easier, but I hear you. Some guys shoot themselves in the foot by being totally OK with it.
/r/RedPillWomen02/03/14 09:22 PM
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In my experience, the only way it can work is if you've already had sex, etc... even then it would be a rare situation.
/r/RedPillWomen02/03/14 08:14 PM
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Best of luck on your journey. It will work out...one way or the other.
/r/RedPillWomen26/02/14 06:14 PM
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My wife used to train dogs as well as groom. She amazes me with her understanding of dog psychology...raising assistance/service dogs is very cool. Props...
/r/RedPillWomen25/02/14 07:24 PM
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Will you PLEASE stop talking to her about all of this...you don't know how little you know right now and in your ignorance you're doing more harm than good. Put everything on pause until you've read MMSL. Fuck...just stop already.
/r/RedPillWomen25/02/14 04:46 PM
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Farthest I've ever had to go is removing the girl from my vicinity, not unlike I would to punish a puppy. (I realize how bad that sounds, but I promise I don't mean it in that degrading of a way, just can't really think of another example.) My wife uses dog training analogies for this all the time...if the shoe fits. :-)
/r/RedPillWomen25/02/14 09:07 AM
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"Talking kills the tingles" should be a t-shirt, a bumper sticker and written on the side of beer mugs.
/r/RedPillWomen21/02/14 10:43 PM
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Stop talking so much and start DOING. what almost every woman means when she says 50/50 isn't anywhere near a man's definition of 50/50. You seriously need to STOP trying to instant fix...right now. Stop looking for her approval. You're still being a good little supplicant by needing her to say what's OK.
/r/RedPillWomen21/02/14 03:57 PM
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OK. Now stop showing her behind the curtain, read Married Man's Sex Life Primer and run your MAP. Actions are the key here, words are just that. You say that you want transparency in a marriage...that is a "Disney fantasy". Regardless of what she may say, I'd bet your wife doesn't really want full transparency. She wants a leader, not a 50/50 partner. Stop asking for her permission (which is what you're doing when you want her involved at every step) and be the solution. It might not make sense …
/r/RedPillWomen21/02/14 11:56 AM
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you don't turn around her view of you as quickly as you turn yourself around. The MMSL rule of thumb is at least a month of MAPping for every year of beta. you've been married for 5 years, so you have AT LEAST 5 MONTHS of solid work to do before she'll even start to believe the changes you've done so far (and those to come) are real and permanent. only then will you start to earn her respect again, only then will the attraction begin to return. if you push too hard before you've earned it...she'…
/r/RedPillWomen21/02/14 04:00 AM
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So you're taking her at her word... Wow do you have a lot to learn.
/r/askTRP14/02/14 08:44 PM
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Seconded. MMSL gives the outline for getting things back in order. And Amazon can deliver it instantly to your phone, tablet or computer through Kindle apps.
/r/askTRP12/02/14 12:36 PM
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Read Athol Kay's The Married Man's Sex Life Primer. Run your MAP.
/r/askTRP05/02/14 11:53 AM
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A favorite comment of mine from Dante Nero references the fact that Bonnie Parker was a seamstress before meeting Clyde.
/r/RedPillWomen03/02/14 04:51 PM
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check out the subscriber bump from the exposure... http://redditmetrics.com/r/RedPillWomen thanks for spreading the word, feministas!
/r/TheRedPill31/01/14 03:51 AM
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Go to the MMSL forums... Specifically the 911 section and post there.
/r/askTRP22/01/14 12:43 PM
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"I truly wish you the best. Goodbye"
/r/askTRP19/01/14 02:39 PM
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having lived in San Antonio and Miami...The Red Pill is even more effective on Latinas.
/r/TheRedPill18/01/14 02:34 PM
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Fully swallowing the Pill takes some time. And sometimes some practice. Analyze why you're looking for approval still and work on that. Then try not asking on for size. Do it as an experiment to see the results.
/r/TheRedPill17/01/14 09:29 PM
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I think you're looking for someone to say it's OK. It's not. What is so bad, so irreparable about her? Is she Bat Shit Crazy? If so, then punt. If not, it's your fault and starting fresh doesn't change that. Again, her not being the woman you want is due directly to you not being the man she needs you to be...we are proactive, they are reactive. Bailing because it's easier is weak sauce and shows that you aren't a credible dude. I'm not trying to be mean, just direct. You are acting like a woman…
/r/askTRP17/01/14 09:23 PM
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Why are you asking her? Literally...what is your motivation? what are you afraid of? She's not going to fuck you more if you ask her...in fact, it's the opposite effect. Stop being afraid, stop needing her validation. Now. Women don't want to decide. They want to be with a man who's decisive and leads. My wife gets tremendous anxiety if I ask her where she wants to go/what she wants to eat/etc. She inherently wants me to decide, she wants to know I have a plan and can execute it...my asking her …
/r/TheRedPill17/01/14 09:06 PM
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There is no One. There are only many. And own that it was your fault.
/r/askTRP17/01/14 06:43 PM
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We use Dread on women. Not the other way around. She is merely exerting the control that you've forced her into wielding by not leading. And she's miserable. Stop listening to what she says...full on...stop. Her logic and reason is based on her emotional state at the time and therefore will change day to day, hour to hour. Stop dealing with her as if she thinks like you. We are different, and that's OK. You are keeping score with your plan to let her leave next time. That's missing the point. Sh…
/r/askTRP17/01/14 06:11 PM
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Be The Captain of your ship. If you're aren't leading then she's full of anxiety and uncertain of her mate selection. Settle her down and get her to reengage by taking charge and responsibility for your marriage.
/r/askTRP17/01/14 05:08 PM
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Couple of things from my marriage: Fuck her...often: This might sound obvious, but to those of us in LTR's...a few years in, life can get in the way sometimes. I have to be mindful of how important sex is for keeping my wife in the mindset we both prefer. Fuck her. Well and often. And don't ever ask...you're in a relationship...sex is expected to be part of that equation. Resist the urge to make her life easier: What I mean is don't compromise yourself when you wouldn't otherwise. When she has a…
/r/TheRedPill17/01/14 04:09 PM
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First things first. It's your fault you are where you are. You are not being the dude she needs you to be so that she can relax and be the woman. A wrong reason to get divorced is because you're being a lazy bitch. If you want to fix any LTR/marriage read The Married Man's Sex Life Primer. Unless your wife is Bat Shit Crazy, you can fix it and have the relationship you want...whatever you decide that is... It might take time. It will take effort. Be a righteous dude, fix yourself and she will re…
/r/askTRP17/01/14 02:25 PM
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The problem with feminism is that it won the battles it set out to win...and has then continued to move the goal posts to other issues in order to maintain relevance. It's not about equal. Egalitarianism is about equal. Feminism is pro-woman...period.
/r/askTRP15/01/14 05:28 PM
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Check out the MMSL forum as well. Lots of real world experience and advice from those who have walked in your shoes. You are only a month in. As Athol says, it's not a quick fix...it can take months and months for her to trust that you are truly different, that it's a permanent shift. Reasonable estimate is a month of the new you for every year of beta'd relationship. If you push too hard, too fast (which is common) you will get more and more resistance. It's hard as you just want to fix it, but…
/r/askTRP15/01/14 11:51 AM
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It's an obvious conglomeration of things that happen put together into one hyperbolic example.
/r/TheRedPill14/01/14 02:11 PM
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That's obviously a fake.
/r/TheRedPill14/01/14 01:00 PM
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pretty much required reading for any Red Pill LTR along with NMMNG and The Rational Male (book as well as the blog)
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 04:40 AM
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I messaged him with a link to MMSL's forums and telling him to buy the Primer...all will be explained. He might not like the truth once he gets it, but at least he'll be able to make an educated decision and not rely on marriage counseling or some other nonsense.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 12:55 AM
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I want to give back to the community in the form of advice and a style of presentation I would have given to the Occam of 10 years ago. I didn't have a very strong set of male role models growing up. That's another piece of the puzzle for me...grasping the damage done by being raised by my mother and not having my own father involved enough in my life. Jesus-fuck that has taken years to sort through. Especially when her leaving my father was pure, unadulterated hypergamy. Poster-child level shit…
/r/TheRedPill09/01/14 07:29 PM
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Ock- Thanks as always for your perspective and for taking the time to write it all down. Something that registered with me in reading this was in my own time as a pedestalizing supplicant, I never really chose women with good relationships with their father. Always girls with broken wings. I used to easily discount the importance of this, much to my own detriment. How times and perspectives change... my woman has a solid bond in a very traditional manner with her Dad and it makes a lot of my Cap…
/r/TheRedPill09/01/14 05:26 PM
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Anyone can have a relationship...few outside of The Red Pill can have a happy, successful long term one. It's Game on hard mode simply because to be effective over time I don't ever get to take a break. I'm always the Captain of my ship 24/7...if you're spinning plates, you can easily keep your distance. It's the constant and close proximity that creates the 'hard' part...the need to continue to put myself first and maintain our defined roles in managing our marriage. As an example, it would be …
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 05:19 PM
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Saying it goes on a 'case by case basis' could be taken as a sort of Oneitis or Unicorn hunting...trying to justify and rationalize shitty character and/or behavior. These guidelines are based on experience and examination. While there are outliers and exceptions, the rule is the rule for a reason. For most men, women who have red flags shouldn't be gambled on as the downside can be so great...financial and otherwise. Intense vetting and an almost scientific level of mate-selection is always a r…
/r/RedPillWomen07/01/14 06:25 AM
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it's obvious she knew the landmines and traps they were going to try and set for her...worked around the language with relative aplomb. it's good to see more and more celebs come out with their voices full on this issue...Gabrielle Reece, etc. Even if it's just a little push back to the common media narrative, I'll take it.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 01:01 AM
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I don't think that the way a woman looks should judge her inner character, especially if her partner embraces those qualities and loves her for them. You aren't thinking about it from a male perspective. What men value in a partner isn't what you want in a partner. These guidelines about tattoos and partner count are just that...guidelines...but they do have a tendency towards exposing the realistic chance of success. My wife (who has a couple small unseen tattoos) fulfills the two most importan…
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/14 05:21 PM
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If you are going to nitpick, I stated the thought was complete. I made no Grammar Nazi comment... To be truly fair, I was never referred to as a 'gentlemen' while in the Army by anyone. Therefore my explanation itself is more for the spirit of intent rather than the exact detail. I don't disagree that we should all try to keep the discourse at a high level, but your level of exasperation seems a bit over the top considering there the inherent variety of languages, nationalities and background we…
/r/TheRedPill06/01/14 03:22 PM
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The thought is complete. It's a military term.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/14 12:30 PM
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Your improvement shines a light on their lack of it...and no one likes their weaknesses exposed. It's to be expected that others will resent your journey as then they can't hide from the fact that they aren't doing the same. It's a classic behavior to try and shame someone who is improving their life. Keep doing your thing. There are people who will be left behind.
/r/askTRP06/01/14 12:23 PM
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We always tell people not to keep score but if these woman who want equality the way you explain it here were to HONESTLY make such a list I bet you they would be shocked at just how little they do comparatively. These types of women want to choose this supposed fairness/equality to suit themselves NOT their SO. Women of this sort think they are being 'fair' with the delegation of duties always favoring them...and anything presented by their man to try and show their true work load will just get…
/r/RedPillWomen05/01/14 08:41 PM
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Yeah... you're exactly right. Holy crap I've never thought of it that way before. Thank you Captain Clueless for your amazing insight and help!
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 12:06 AM
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Hence where I said the numbers don't matter. It's semantics. Also I'm in a RP marriage...my version works well with my woman. YMMV
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 12:04 AM
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My version of that thinking is "no woman will get more than 85% of me or my love ever again." The number doesn't matter as much as the hierarchal thinking.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 09:01 PM
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Women don't love YOU. They love what you are to them. After a breakup it's relatively easy for her to find some guy who's at least a version of what you were. As I've been quoting a lot lately: "men are romantics pretending to be realists, women vice versa"...stop expecting her to have loyalty or remorse in the same way we do. It's just not in their individual or collective best interest.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 05:20 PM
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"Men are romantics pretending to be realists, women vice versa" It's just reality. Keep swallowing the RP.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/14 05:45 PM
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I am mentoring a friend IRL and it's been very beneficial to both of us. Scary part was he was a dude that I never thought would need any RP knowledge...he had a good strong traditional marriage...he's from a military family, played rugby, makes six figures and she's Southern (reads Garden and Gun not Cosmo). He was leading the relationship until they had their daughters (2 and 9mo). Without realizing it and with good intentions, he had increased the beta comfort after the kids were born too muc…
/r/TheRedPill02/01/14 03:02 PM
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It's more challenging in some ways and easier in others. I look forward to the discourse and opportunity to share my experiences.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/14 12:57 PM
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Maintaining it throughout the course of a long term relationship is another beast altogether. This is content we haven't discussed much in the past so we are looking to the community to drive it. If it is something you're interested in start making theory posts. Mate selection, maintaining frame, Captain/First Mate dynamics, etc. We aim to be the premiere hub for all things RP related, and ignoring relationships because they aren't "True RP" is ignorant. As one of the guys here in a RP marriage,…
/r/TheRedPill02/01/14 05:26 AM
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If someone interrupts me once, I'll usually let it slide. Twice or more is a pattern and I'll simply stop cold and give a look of "are you done?" 95% of the time that brings an apology from the other party and a renewed awareness of their behavior.
/r/becomeaman30/12/13 09:10 PM
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The real question is did you get her that Xbox One? :-)
/r/RedPillWomen30/12/13 04:46 PM
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read The Married Man's Sex Life Primer by Athol Kay...as soon as possible. he gives a Red Pill rundown on the rules of attraction within a LTR/marriage. she will come back around, keep doing your thing. best book for marriage game.
/r/askTRP30/12/13 08:33 AM
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I say this to my wife...works at all levels of relationship if your shit is in one sock.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/13 07:44 PM
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Sonny dropping some serious RP knowledge on young C
/r/askTRP25/12/13 02:57 PM
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As with many things, it's all in the packaging. I open every door for my wife be it car or building...not in deference to her, but because I told her early on she's not to open a door when I'm there. Same with driving. Over 2 years now and she's never driven me anywhere. Her car, my car doesn't matter. It's tone and showing her that I'm steering our ship...the little shit adds up.
/r/askTRP25/12/13 01:53 PM
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Yes, but I don't think she meant it like we mean it...as in mate selection.
/r/RedPillWomen17/12/13 05:29 PM
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She bangs around close to the real issue but can't quite get there. Her line about "finding the right mate" shows that she still doesn't understand why her shallow and entitled princess friends have mostly divorced...and let's guess to the % of those initiated by those same princesses.
/r/RedPillWomen17/12/13 12:32 PM
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stop believing what women say...their logic is based on their emotional state at the time of the conversation. it's therefore flawed and can't be relied upon. whether it's a thing or not is irrelevant.
/r/askTRP17/12/13 03:05 AM
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The entirety of your quandary seems tied up in the definition of love...and how our examined reality doesn't match Disney's version as propagated by modern feminized culture. Simply put you can never just love her...never with all your heart...never unconditionally. Never the way we are told by society and culture that we should love. Not without it biting you in the ass. I'm an older RPer...44. Beta'd myself into a divorce years ago and now in a RP marriage. I can not and will not ever love my …
/r/TheRedPill16/12/13 12:43 PM
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you need to stop thinking of 'wife' as a title you bestow upon your beloved. It isn't. Just as 'husband' isn't a title she bestows upon you. I read this on another thread a while ago, and it's stuck with me because it's absolutely true: 'Wife' is not a title. It's a job description. Fuck yes... You make her earn it. You make her prove herself. And you do this every day for the length of your relationship with her, no matter how long that may be. Because you are the Captain, and if you should cho…
/r/TheRedPill14/12/13 04:33 PM
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Time for me to google "Dante Nero". That quote was gold! Two parts of this. YouTube search "Black Phillip"...then do a podcast search on iTunes or whatever app you use for "Beige Phillip". Black Phillip was Patrice O'Neal and Dante...the Old Testament. Beige Phillip is Dante carrying the torch and again "moving forward" with the New Testament. Google "Beige Phillip rules" or do a search in r/theredpill. I know they were just posted again a couple days ago there. Invaluable.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/13 04:00 PM
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Not enough, sadly. I take your point, but I think this might be more of an education GAP than some sort of inequality. One issue that's very important to me is STEM education for women and girls There was just a study released last week about how men's brains and weekend brains function quite differently. They source separate parts of the brain for the same tasks. We are different. Not the same I think women are totally capable of what you think is impossible; all they have to do is follow your …
/r/TheRedPill14/12/13 03:50 PM
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What hobby or activity are you really good at? Take the same swagger you feel about that and apply to any and all. Don't have one thing you're good at? Well TRP is about the journey of self-improvement and it's never ending. Pick something and get started...have 3 things? What are you doing to make it 5? 8?
/r/askTRP14/12/13 03:30 PM
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It's true, when a woman says "let's do this together" (like, picking up a gift or writing something) she's basically saying "hey, do this for me while I tell you how to do it" basic RP tenet: don't listen to what they say, watch what they do. this is so important and powerful. we've been taught from a young age to listen to what women say all based on our assumption that it's what they really want. it's just not reality...by and large what women say they want versus how they act are way off. wom…
/r/TheRedPill14/12/13 02:39 PM
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You're right. You know, the more I read, the more I'm thinking of dog training... Yeah, it sounds harsh, but with dogs it's the same. If the owner doesn't show leadership, the dog will take over. This will stress the dog and make him go crazy because he is, by nature, suppossed to follow its owner. Now, when the owner asserts himself as the owner, the dog feels happy. Damn... My wife says this all the time...it's exactly like dog training with the same end results if not done, or if done correct…
/r/TheRedPill14/12/13 02:13 PM
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the overall tone of your 'wants' list is that you're looking for something that doesn't exist...the ideal 50/50 partnership. it's not gonna happen, brother. in fact this line of thinking is even more dangerous than the typical beta pedestalizing as it assumes 'perfectly equal' is attainable. any man who thinks he's in a 50/50 relationship is the subservient one, any female that thinks she's in a 50/50 relationship is really the one running it. so please, stop thinking in terms of what you wish c…
/r/TheRedPill14/12/13 01:43 PM
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having read through most of the replies to this point, I wanted to add one little bit to the "TRP deals with how things are" part of this... your "ought to be" assumes that women are consciously aware of what they want, of what they actually respond to in real life and that they can then base their decision making process on that to overcome with said abstract reasoning and higher-order moral thinking. TRP directly addresses the fact that, from our collective experience, this simply isn't any ve…
/r/TheRedPill14/12/13 01:18 PM
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Blah blah blah more shit about her on a pedestal... Less about her, more about you making yourself awesome.
/r/askTRP13/12/13 04:36 PM
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Yeah, which just makes me feel confused because a week before we broke up she would say how scared she was of how much she liked me. Don't pay attention to what women say...observe and analyze what they do. Words mean nothing, actions are everything.
/r/askTRP13/12/13 11:58 AM
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who's popping in next, Dalrock?
/r/TheRedPill12/12/13 04:19 AM
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Do a search in TRP for Beige Phillip rules. There was a post about a month ago that lists them.
/r/TheRedPill11/12/13 06:50 PM
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I've never seen anything official...just fan versions doing through Google.
/r/TheRedPill11/12/13 06:23 PM
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I like Beige Phillip even more. I love Patrice...saw his stand-up, shook his hand...a great and brilliant man. But Dante is right when he says a fundamental difference between the two of them is that Patrice comes at women from the perspective of a guy who was the fat kid. There's always a bitterness there from Patrice, whereas Dante was slaying at a young age and never stopped...he's always lived in abundance so his viewpoint is more of the "I don't blame a fish for swimming" acceptance of wome…
/r/TheRedPill11/12/13 03:24 AM
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in my 40's...beta'd my first marriage, with the expected result...but was totally amicable split. we both just walked away. I'm sure if it was any semblance of the nightmare scenarios I've seen and read about, it would have turned me off of marriage forever. I did eventually remarry, but it's a RP union through and through. I know the risks, I understand the importance of continuously gaming my wife and I'll never stop being the Captain of my ship. I can say that if I was younger, I don't think …
/r/TheRedPill11/12/13 03:13 AM
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Men are attracted to visual...young, pretty and fertile. Women are attracted to strong, confident and masculine/virile. to put a fine point on it, if you're doing your job properly she doesn't ever get to the point of having any tingles for another man...she's so into you that other men have to lay too much groundwork to break through. she would notice "that's a good looking guy" but as they need more than just visual to create attraction, it should never get to "wow I'm really drawn to him for …
/r/askTRP10/12/13 10:17 PM
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Somehow I think that is always there no matter what. I mean..as a dude I never stop getting tingles from women I guess..so why would it be different for her? OK...you still have a ways to go brother. Men and women are attracted to different things, and for very different reasons...so viewing them as the same is holding you back.
/r/askTRP10/12/13 07:10 PM
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I'm a serial monogamist for the most part...and lost a wife due to losing my frame and becoming a beta in the relationship. We all get 'got' brother...no woman will ever get 100% of my heart ever again. It's that simple and it works well. Learn from your experiences as I have, as others have before you...and go forth as prosper.
/r/askTRP10/12/13 04:10 PM
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You are trying to find a way to fix the un-fixable. Cheating can be dealt with in a RP manner...check out Athol's MMSL forum, some marriages/LTR's come back from it. It's just very rare when it's a repeated offense. The lack of respect for you, how she obviously viewed you as a chump, is a tenuous road back at best. Fix your oneitis.
/r/askTRP10/12/13 02:29 PM
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The odds of her not cheating again when another guy comes along and gives her the tingles are slim brother. She is probably not consciously aware of the fact that she using you as a fall back plan...right now.
/r/askTRP10/12/13 12:31 PM
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Can't blame a fish for swimming...
/r/TheRedPill10/12/13 11:25 AM
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Expanding on your thought a bit, I do feel bad about my first marriage as I was Alpha when we met. Over the course of the marriage I beta'd the fuck out of myself and she eventually left me for a guy who was who I was when she met me. I didn't understand it at the time and she took a lot of blame from everyone in our lives...when the reality is that it was my fault. I've thought about reaching out to her to explain and apologize for losing myself, but it's been years now and I'm content with let…
/r/askTRP10/12/13 11:03 AM
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Classic.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/13 12:36 PM
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Yet again, as your feelz are getting offended you try to change the discussion. To answer you somewhat, the difference is that men are more direct and consciously aware about what they really want. Women say one thing and act completely differently, then rationalize the living shit out of their dissonant behavior. It's just being observational of your nature, not a judgment. When it comes to the opposite sex, women's words and actions rarely match, you're just not wired that way. Men are...any o…
/r/TheRedPill09/12/13 12:29 PM
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you can be attracted to any kind of woman you want...doesn't mean she will be, or more importantly will stay, attracted to you. you are equating what attracts you with what attracts women. wrong answer.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/13 03:22 AM
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Having read the MMSL with my wife, I disagree with this statement. But I think it's safe to say that not all women will be receptive. Some will, though. I'd say read it yourself first then decide yourself, but I already knew I had a RP wife. He's already expressed how there's a power struggle in the relationship...the last thing he needs to do is cut his own legs out from under himself. it's too much of a risk right out of the gate...my wife is Red Pill as well and yet still bristled a little he…
/r/askTRP09/12/13 01:34 AM
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a woman's logic is inherently flawed as it's based on her emotional state at the time...her examination of anything, especially a relationship, is tainted by her 'feelz' and therefore tells you nothing. she might react entirely different in the exact same situation next time simply because she's happier with her hair that day.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/13 01:07 AM
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it's actually a perfect example...women choose their partners, yes...but for reasons that they themselves don't understand, therefore they are not a good source of advice.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/13 12:54 AM
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the fantastic irony about this whole topic is that a basic Red Pill tenet is that as a woman, you don't know how you define love either...regardless of your claims.
/r/TheRedPill08/12/13 11:20 PM
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that has nothing to do with what you asked about. don't use another, separate discussion to try and prove your point. it's weak.
/r/TheRedPill08/12/13 11:13 PM
23

Would you take advice about fishing from a fish or from fisherman?
/r/TheRedPill08/12/13 08:57 PM
1

It's just as with many other things, realizing that how we want a woman to be is not how she is. It's not a 'less genuine' love, it's just different...than our ideal and than the Disney version as perpetuated throughout modern culture. No judgment, just acceptance.
/r/TheRedPill08/12/13 08:06 PM
4

I firmly believe that there is a very small fraction of women out there (who don't look like dogshit, might I add) that pills and tactics won't be necessary with. you're wrong about that and have to let it go. that thinking is putting a unicorn on the pedestal...still holding out hope for the 'one.' it's not gonna happen. she doesn't exist...it's only sad if you hang onto the hope that it's not true. women will never love us they way we really want deep down...unconditionally. accept that now an…
/r/askTRP08/12/13 03:44 PM
0

Yeah, but if you expect to be able to just ring a bell and be inside her within five seconds, you're going to be disappointed. That's actually exactly the arrangement my wife and I have. We have explicitly discussed and both agree to the fact that I'll never 'ask' and she'll never say no. I don't expect that to work for all, but it works great for us. And if you'd bothered to actually understand what I was saying above in regards to the girl being in control of the sex and losing attraction to h…
/r/TheRedPill08/12/13 03:00 PM
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you're obviously trolling, but I'll reply for anyone else who might read...sex is part of a relationship and it's not at all unreasonable to expect it. if you love your partner, if you're attracted to your partner, you should WANT to have sex with them. that goes for both sides. any refusal or withdrawl from the sexual contract is actually a manipulation and should not be tolerated in any fashion.
/r/TheRedPill08/12/13 05:39 AM
2

read The Married Man's Sex Life Primer immediately. Get on the MMSL forums. DO NOT let her know you're reading it, do not try to change things overnight. You absolutely can have the marriage you both want deep down, but it's up to you and it's going to take time. Be patient, run your MAP and she will respond in kind once she trusts that you are and will be the Captain she's looking for...
/r/askTRP07/12/13 03:02 PM
1

Aside from the troll...my wife unties and removes my shoes/boots upon my arrival home after a work day. It's something she initiated and continues to enjoy such a simple symbol of service.
/r/askTRP07/12/13 03:00 AM
1

To quote Dante "put yourself first, if you don't...she won't" Her approval, meaning any woman in your life, means NOTHING over your own sense of your value. Period.
/r/TheRedPill06/12/13 06:00 PM
1

It's part of the process...that bitterness and resentment towards the reality of the situation and becoming aware of the world around you. This isn't an overnight camping trip...it's a hike to Everest and there's only one way to get there.
/r/TheRedPill06/12/13 12:19 PM
5

Married guy here. Relationship Game is non-stop and never-ending. If you are going to be the Captain, you can NEVER take a shift off and let her steer the ship. Ever. It is a metric fuck ton of responsibility and it should be part of your decision making process for any thought of entering into an LTR. She can and should be a great First Officer, but don't ever let yourself think or let her think she can handle the Captain's chair. It isn't a promotable position!!!
/r/TheRedPill06/12/13 11:58 AM
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The point is you can't be concerned with her view of you taking care of yourself after she refused you. Outcome independence brother.
/r/TheRedPill06/12/13 04:30 AM
8

8 months and you're already being refused sex? She's clearly in control and not attracted to you enough at this point for you to properly be able to push through this morning shit test. Your relationship is on the rocks whether you realize it or not. For a road map back, you might check out The Married Man's Sex Life Primer by Athol Kay. It's "LTR Game for Dummies"...
/r/TheRedPill06/12/13 04:27 AM
1

They agreed to those specific examples...at that moment...but did they extend that thinking out or just write those off as incidental?
/r/RedPillWomen05/12/13 08:11 PM
2

Play vs real, every day 24/7 is part of it... I don't begrudge anyone who is a weekend warrior of kink, if that works for them. I think for me as I have become a legit Captain, there's just something disingenuous about a lot of the greater BDSM scene...and A LOT of Blue Pill thinking in regards to male/female dynamics. Still mulling it around.
/r/RedPillWomen05/12/13 07:54 PM
1

This touches on something I've been bouncing around in my head lately but haven't been able to entirely pin down. My wife and I haven't been active at all in our local scene over the past year...while the year before was 2-3 events a month at times. As I've learned more about natural self and truly embraced my Red Pillness, I've felt more distant from the BDSM community.
/r/RedPillWomen05/12/13 04:54 PM
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You can't force TRP onto someone. They have to be ready for it, to have had the life experience that will allow it to resonate appropriately. Otherwise their still plugged in ego is so invested in their existing world view they will ferociously defend their Blue Pill mindset. This is to be expected.
/r/TheRedPill05/12/13 12:21 PM
2

I'm in a 24/7 TPE with my kitten. I think there are D/s components to most RP relationships but not much of the other way around...in my years in our local BDSM scene, there are very few Alpha males in that particular community.
/r/RedPillWomen05/12/13 03:02 AM
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Women are reactive, therefore if she's just laying there I didn't do enough to create the voracious tingles before I put it in. Blaming women for being bad at sex is just silly. It's our fault...they don't know what they like until we show them anyway.
/r/TheRedPill29/11/13 04:05 PM
6

44yr old married guy here...the RP is essential to any LTR, let alone a marriage. it's a challenge to constantly Game, knowing I can never take a shift off...but for me steering the ship at all times is easily worth the results.
/r/TheRedPill26/11/13 04:23 AM
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"All bitches are crazy!" My two favorite Beige Phillip rules are that a woman's logic is inherently faulty as it's based on her emotional state at the time and that women have integrity amnesia.
/r/TheRedPill23/11/13 04:45 AM
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We're not standing at podiums with a timer...therefore not a true debate. This is your logic applied to your argument. There's no substance...just spin.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 06:54 PM
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There's that pesky opinion again. It's funny how you continue to define what is acceptable here while not accepting how TRP defines itself. You claim indifference yet your actions say otherwise. It's obvious your investment won't allow any other opinion than your own, ergo no point in continuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 06:28 PM
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According to you...you are contradicting yourself when you discount my opinion with one of your own. TRP is based on people's real life experiences...their 'truth'. Stop with the semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 06:14 PM
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Your experience is exactly as valid as mine or anyone else's. I just believe you are viewing yours (and mine) through a different lens. Your point on proving it would be relevant if we were in a lab playing with chemicals. We're not. The closest we get is the tremendous difference in men once swallowing the Red Pill. Once that happens, the success is relatively inevitable. It's all anecdotal, but just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 05:50 PM
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You're assuming ideologies can be/should be proven. I'm not claiming 'science'...that's your straw man to bear. All I've said is that this is my opinion based on my experiences. I have had far greater satisfaction and fulfillment, as have my partners, when I am leading. In the absence of said leadership my relationships have failed miserably. It's simple really, but the 25 year old version of me would argue with the present me about this, so I understand that this isn't necessarily palatable to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 05:45 PM
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It's an homage to the late, great Patrice O'Neal...Rest In Pimp. He had a bit in one of his specials about how time is for men as vagina is for women. He used the word rape for its effect...I am not about to edit his greatness for anyone.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/13 05:08 PM
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It's my belief that there is no such thing as 50/50. There is always a leader in every relationship be it in the workplace, in friendship or in the home. Any attempt at 50/50, even if the most humble and well intended simply leads to power struggles. As I said, that is the fundamental difference in view. For me, my life is my proof. I'm not a scientist or a psychologist, just a middle 40's guy who's learned from his mistakes. We are all products of our experiences and environments. Demanding som…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 04:50 PM
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A base difference in view in my opinion is that RP assumes there is no such thing as 50/50 or "perfectly equal" in a relationship...there is always someone leading whether it's spoken or not. BP seems to operate under the premise that 50/50 is the ideal to strive for and that it is attainable. In my 25+ years of dating and marriage, it's my opinion that 'equal' or 50/50 doesn't work. That isn't usually something that women/BP men can consciously admit due to investment into the modern feminized …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 02:11 PM
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She rapes his time and is totally OK with it...what a delusional, entitled dummy.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/13 12:28 PM
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As Dante says, a woman's logic is flawed as it's based on her emotional state at the time.
/r/TheRedPill17/11/13 05:16 AM
9

and she deleted it...of course.
/r/TheRedPill08/11/13 02:50 AM
3

Yes...THIS! Margery is on point with the above. My wife isn't perfect, but she is a good woman. In hindsight I think I stopped looking for perfect around tthe time I shrugged off the blue pill and fully digested the Red. I had a better understanding of what was going to make me happy long-term.
/r/RedPillWomen05/11/13 12:22 AM
2

Absolutely...I went from Alpha at 19-25 to beta until 38 to Alpha again to present at 44. So happy and fulfilled with where I am in comparison with where I was. Whew!
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/13 10:23 PM
1

Basically correct. He never learned the value of earning it. It's been given to him and he is taking advantage. Maybe he will someday but odds are that will involve loss...of the relationship. That's how I learned.
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/13 05:15 PM
2

I simply had lost my natural Alpha way and bought into the societal beta nonsense. I was not man enough, I wasn't a leader anymore, I wasn't deserving of respect...from any woman let alone a proper RPW.
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/13 04:54 PM
1

For sure. Something to think about.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/13 04:29 PM
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If he wants you to stay invested in the marriage he needs to read them. Period. It can be a tough thing to bring up without crushing his already beta'd ego. MMSL forum has some threads about how to do that as a woman being for her man to Alpha-up. Hopefully he can reject the years of incorrect conditioning about what really works for a woman and release his inner Alpha. Good luck and hope to see you on MMSL.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/13 04:26 PM
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The 25-27yr old version of me wouldn't have known what to do with a 23yr old RPW. I would have taken advantage and surfed the wave until it broke. It sounds like you are there...ready to turn it all upside down and I can't blame you. It must be frustrating. If he's not being serious about fixing what's broken within himself he's not worth your time...how can you respect him long term? You can't. You might also jump on the Married Mans Sex Life forum...a lot of supportive, experienced men and wom…
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/13 04:10 PM
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First thing a Red Pill man has to be is credible. Your boyfriend is showing a good bit of immaturity and a lack of responsibility...therefore not credible, therefore not RP. Early to mid-20's you're going to run into this...often men, including myself don't get our shit together until out late 20's or even early 30's. If you are looking for long-term and serious, you might need to date a bit older to find what will satisfy those RPW desires properly.
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/13 03:39 PM
1

I'm sure a serious illness is a difficult scenario to maintain your proper mindset and frame. I don't know how if handle it myself but thanks for sharing your experience. The takeaway for me is just reinforcing that I can never take a shift off from steering the ship.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/13 02:23 PM
3

And fill out the triage questionnaire.
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/13 02:15 PM
1

This. Give him the tools and then see what happens.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/13 12:06 PM
3

Get to the Married Mans Sex Life forum...stat.
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/13 11:51 AM
6

Exactly. He completely lost frame and showed you that he might not be quite as Alpha as you think. He showed you that you could own him if you misbehave in a certain way. Kinda a big red flag. His behavior sounded like he was working off a 'how to be Alpha' checklist as opposed to just being a self-aware, confident dude. Almost like he was looking for a chance to use all his TRP knowledge, even if the situation didn't warrant it. Heavy handed and weak.
/r/askTRP03/11/13 02:17 PM
1

Did something change in your second marriage that contributed to her looking outside it?
/r/TheRedPill02/11/13 03:57 PM
2

Truth. I'm under no misconceptions...my wife is a woman, therefore integrity-amnesia and emotion-driven thought processes are in full effect. However she is self aware enough to know she's a red pill woman, and that she doesn't ever want to steer the ship. I'll never give up the wheel like I did in my first marriage...it takes commitment and work to never lose frame no matter what, but that's the only way to keep it going happily. If I ever think I can relax for a minute and let her take the hel…
/r/TheRedPill02/11/13 01:06 PM
2

I was VERY fortunate in that my first marriage ending did not involve alimony or children. Clean break, walked away. Part of why I could be silly enough to risk it again...but I made a much better, more educated choice this time. They're all crazy, but discerning mate selection is so key.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/13 05:01 AM
3

To be fair, I'm on Wife 2.0...the first round ended in a self-induced beta bonfire. "Everybody gets got!"
/r/TheRedPill02/11/13 04:56 AM
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Happily married...
/r/TheRedPill01/11/13 08:26 PM
2

most interesting thing for me was Buck Angel saying how different he thinks since he started taking male hormones. basically Patrice-esque in his view that "bitches be crazy"
/r/TheRedPill17/10/13 12:19 AM
15

What guy wants to be a Sugar Daddy to a single mom?!?!?
/r/TheRedPill07/10/13 04:25 PM
1

I'm absolutely horrified by everything written there except the excellent advice that is almost always ignored until the OP finds proof that their SO is doing everything that the other forum members said they were and then the OP FINALLY listens to and follows advice. Happens every time. My wife and I shake our heads at it. The pattern is so sadly obvious when you aren't living that nightmare. That said MMSL is hugely helpful to those that can figure it out.
/r/RedPillWomen02/10/13 08:30 PM
7

Man here. Ask him what he wants...
/r/RedPillWomen02/10/13 10:54 AM
2

Or in my case, literally...she is BSC and clouded my judgement for decades. The bare minimum has been the status quo for a number of years now and I'm much happier for it.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/13 02:44 PM
2

It still comes down to if you don't want nude pictures on the internet don't take nude pictures. This doesn't need government intervention.
/r/TheRedPill12/09/13 02:22 PM
15

Entitled 30 & 40 yr old women are EVERYWHERE in DC Metro. I'd bet she was post-wall when they got married.
/r/TheRedPill29/08/13 08:21 PM
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for the most part, TRP exists in it's own corner of the world and leaves TBP to it's own devices. TRP doesn't reach out to try and create drama or chaos...that's a Blue Pill/feminist tactic. This of course proves how effective TRP philosophy truly is...you can't help yourself but to be drawn to men who could care less if you like them or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/13 11:25 PM
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Theory is your word to get hung up on. These aren't theories, they are our collective realities across a broad spectrum of relationship experiences. It's that very technique that's interesting...trying to categorize this all as just a 'theory' so that you can jump in with the scientific method argument. Trying to reframe and discount the discussion...you are proving the need for Red Pill thinking by doing so. You cannot force others into your view. We say what works for us...you say nope, not po…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/13 05:33 PM
3

Mid 40's guy in a Red Pill marriage here...if you want to save it, buy The Married Man's Sex Life Primer now, get on the MMSL forum and see if it's still worth trying. It can be a great resource, even if the marriage ends.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/13 03:34 PM
1

I'm here to help! :-)
/r/RedPillWomen23/08/13 03:25 PM
3

So my good friend who is MtF transgender created all of her identity in her mind? How very judgmental of you...I expected better from someone so overtly PC. Gender is part of nature, ergo natural. Do dogs have gender or how about monkeys? We are just a fancy animal. Male and female... Again...this is about a majority, not all. If you are all butthurt because you don't fit into this world, that's OK...enjoy yours, but don't try and deny us our reality for the sake of yours. That's controlling at …
/r/RedPillWomen23/08/13 10:35 AM
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It's referring to the masses...the average. Don't try to use outliers and exceptions to override commonly known roles. It's amateurish and won't be taken seriously here.
/r/RedPillWomen23/08/13 04:02 AM
2

Truth. I've used Patrice as a barometer for years. He's perfect for flushing out her true feelings... His half hour HBO special that aired years ago has some FANTASTIC material to weed out the ones who can't hang as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLco-ZUKbJ0&feature=youtube_gdata_player I got to see him at the DC Improv a few times...he would always attack any one having that uppity reaction. I'm certain there was one couple he actually broke up because he exposed her nonsense behavior to…
/r/TheRedPill21/08/13 03:46 PM
3

Also that we don't stop being men once we're married... MMSL is legit for keeping your head straight in an LTR/marriage.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/13 01:52 AM
0

THE Pimp...RIP.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/13 01:51 AM
2

Hello wife...welcome to reddit!
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/13 05:15 PM
1

Read The Married Man's Sex Life Primer and check out the MMSL forum. If you are in a LTR and want it to be a RP version, it's a simple outline...just need to do the work.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/13 07:34 PM
9

Love the Monday Morning podcast...
/r/TheRedPill29/07/13 10:08 PM
1

in your view.
/r/TheRedPill29/07/13 06:39 PM
6

My view is that Red Pill is an understanding of the dynamics...not a definition of what's allowed.
/r/TheRedPill29/07/13 06:27 PM
1

Married Game can be an interesting challenge but if you've done the homework and really vetted her it can be very rewarding. Might not be for everyone but it works for me.
/r/TheRedPill29/07/13 05:57 PM
2

My wife is smart but not as smart as I am, nor as smart as a few of the women I've dated...in my 20's I valued pure intelligence more highly. I'm happier with her as she has more common sense and admiration for my intelligence. Fits in well to a RP LTR. Obviously you don't want stupid, but maybe there's a happy medium that would be the more successful route.
/r/TheRedPill29/07/13 05:14 PM
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Another one here, but yeah not nearly as many married users here as in RPW.
/r/TheRedPill29/07/13 04:56 PM
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Couple of generic pointers based on my experience (happily married 43/M): She should still have a happy relationship with her father. Being super career-driven is a red flag. Originally from somewhere that's less urban or has more conservative values in general. I've been married twice...the first caused me to learn the above lessons the hard way. Wife 2.0 is awesome...a supportive, caring woman who knows the deal...RP to her core.
/r/TheRedPill29/07/13 04:29 PM
3

He started my Red Pill journey as well...I feel fortunate to have seen him live a number of times.
/r/TheRedPill28/07/13 02:30 AM
2

You're aware of your errors and are willing to do the work. That's the powerful shit. From a base perspective, if she's not initiating sex then she's simply not attracted to you at this point. Read the book and check out the MMSL forum as well...lots of us have made those mistakes and found our way back. Own your world and fix it...she'll be bending over the table on her own soon enough.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/13 03:29 PM
10

I started losing my hair in my 30's...if anything shaving my head increased my SMV. I vary between smooth and bare clippers and have never thought of it as anything but a plus. Along with a goatee/van dyke, every woman I've been with over the past 10 years has loved how mean I look with the shaved head. Don't fear it. Own it.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/13 02:56 PM
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As a married Red Piller with a Red Pill Wife, drop everything and read Athol Kay's Married Man's Sex Life Primer.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/13 12:40 AM
2

Such a great man...For anyone who has never heard him check out Black Phillip on YouTube. RIP Patreekee
/r/TheRedPill18/07/13 07:25 PM
1

From dating into marriage, I am the Dom and she the sub. We lean towards a 1950's TPE with varying amounts of impact, breath and rope play in our day to day...plus things like compete orgasm control and her not ever being allowed to say No, etc. We use the term 'Team' to describe our relationship...I do my part and she does her complimentary part but it's all based on my lead.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/13 04:50 PM
3

Absolutely read it now. It will pay off now and later...if and when you decide a more long-term scenario is best for you. It's not going to be earth-shattering as you're already here, but AK goes into that specific dynamic and flushes out the details of how to keep a LTR happily working.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/13 08:00 PM
2

I'm 43...1st marriage I was similar to you in that I lost my edge and after 6 years the marriage fizzled and she bailed due to my lack of balance with Alpha and Beta traits. Learned my lesson the hard way and took my medicine. Came back from that with what I now know is a more Red Pill approach to life...eventually found my current wife. She's Red Pill to her core and I'm enjoying my version of a perfect relationship, but I'll NEVER lose that edge again...and she will stay in line accordingly. T…
/r/TheRedPill09/07/13 07:24 PM
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This. I love my wife...we are in our 40's and she was 'raised right' as she says. We take care of each other but the balance isn't anywhere near 50/50...for both of our sakes. She knows the deal, responds properly to me and that's why we're together.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/13 04:23 PM
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