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social issuessense-si-millia/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/20 03:35 AM
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discussionsense-si-millia/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/20 09:36 PM
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It's pretty bad.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/21 09:38 PM
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Yeah you didn't hear about Cambodia? Chomsky has a rather abysmal record of defending communist reigmes and denying the atrocities they committed. While simultaneously trying to skewer the US as an imperial power. I wish he gave up on being a public figure when his linguistic theory went out of vogue instead of going into politics. His political fans are intolerable to me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/21 09:28 PM
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He'd know all about that. He's been denying genocides since the 70s.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/21 08:03 AM
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You are right. But it of shows something wrong with our perceived values. In theory we care more about women, in reality we care about power. Fucked up from bottom to top.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/21 08:01 AM
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And I am strongly against that. But I think the point of this thread was to talk about how we view things from a theoretical rights perspective, not how we believe it works currently in the world.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/21 11:33 PM
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Okay. You can dismiss male rape victims, male victims of reproductive coercion, and birth control failure with that. What about the other ways babies are made without male consent? What? I never brought up consent. If you want to talk rights and responsibilities, you can follow the logic of my original statement and easily conclude that rape victims or other people who didn't consent to those acts bare no responsibility for any offspring produced from those acts. But none of that actually invali…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/21 11:20 PM
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They do but let's be real, not all parents provide those things. I am talking real base level, bare minimum stuff. So when talking about it from a legal perspective those things sort of get pushed to the side because they are difficult to evaluate and not every child get's it, certainly not in the same degree.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/21 08:35 PM
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The idea that someone's actions led to the creation of those needs is a conservative idea No it's just the truth. Sex leads to conception and pregnancy. This is a fact, not a right wing talking point. Except you need parents with genuine affections towards their kids. Yes preferably. We shouldn't force women to give birth to kids, we shouldn't force men to be responsible for those needs. Should we force parents to take care of kids?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/21 08:31 PM
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I am left wing. And don't ask a question if it is too much of a strain when people give an answer.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/21 08:03 PM
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Yes the needs of the child outweigh the rights of the father, specifically because his actions (along with the mother) led to the creation of those needs in the first place. The needs of the child aren't paticularly large imo, if you keep them fed, clothed, housed and healthy you are a good way there. After a certain point I'm not sure I can really say it is need anymore. Are you not meeting their needs if they don't get driven to sports and other activities every day? I wouldn't say so. Are the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/21 09:00 AM
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After rape I think it is pretty obviously wrong to charge for child support and or force a women to carry to term. Just to be clear. It was a bit of a tangent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/21 04:59 AM
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We have the strange idea that circumcision in boys / men isn't a form of sexual constraint. But from what I understand that skin contains a lot of nerves and serves a pretty important function and throughout history controlling sexuality has been a large part of why both men and women have been circumcised. For my way of thinking the biggest issue really starts at school though. The combination of strong feminist messaging as well as young kids who aren't socialised, it's a little too contradict…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/21 10:24 PM
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That's the thing. What can men change tomorrow, to feel less lonely? I think there are a lot of things you can do, depending on your interests. I'm into playing a lot of sport and socialization often comes from that, but I also have a taste for German board games and a lot comes from that too. Heck I know some pretty well just from taking my dog to the same dog park every week. Maybe I have been lucky in some sense because where I live lockdown has not been so bad, but I get the feeling that gen…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/21 08:07 AM
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Because why? Because men don't feel sufficiently isolated? Damn I was going to say so they could change things for themselves. I feel like your take is way darker. I think you've described more people on reddit and on this reddit than will let you know. I do get that vibe a fair bit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/21 05:02 AM
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It's strange to me because they seem very aware of Lancanian theory due to a certain Slovenian philosopher and can talk at length about the power of negation in communication. A famous example going something like this. "Do you want to come upstairs for a coffee?" "I don't really like coffee" "That's ok I don't have any" Sometimes I have difficult time understanding how people who get that nuance want to require others to give direct and specific verbal consent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/21 02:49 AM
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Man after asking once and them not listening I'd just move.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/21 02:32 AM
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Never had a women felt the need to ask consent. It's either been about them deciding if they want to or trying to convince me that I want to. But I have also never specifically asked for verbal consent. I don't think it is something anybody with a decent understanding of human interaction and who isn't ideologically indoctrinated actually does.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/21 02:30 AM
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The really interesting thing is why this was nessacery for you. Did you not see how women generally interacted with men before? So many guys I feel like don't have any conception of how relating to women could be different or why any of the advantages women recieve are psychologically important. It's like that one kid in school who doesn't have friends do they just hang out with people who treat them like crap because they don't know what nice feels like. I wish more men could see it without nee…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/21 01:42 AM
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Yes but in a very strange way because haven't seen it play all the way out yet. While at first it might have just been good enough to have one axis of oppression, eventually I think those people will find it draining. A black straight cis man might gain some clout for being black, but he still has to apologize about everything else. And it's difficult to tell how far this will go, as part of the whole point of the exercise was to untie minorities. But within the group intersectionality provides …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/21 05:22 AM
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Sex and relationships is the most basic part of being a human. If everyone else is able to have this part of being human like it's nothing, and you're not, that is murder for mental health. Ok so you are arguing they are entitled to sex and relationships? I feel like we keep going back and forth. Women determine the way social interaction works because they are the in demand party for procreation. Social interaction is mostly not about procreation though. It's one small part of why we interact. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/21 12:07 AM
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I think it relates to how we have narrowed masculinity. For example, for some reason we haven't recognized that building machines is a very masculine enterprise. Maths, science, engineering and many other 'nerdy' fields yeild massive amounts of productive resources. Much more than more traditionally masculine fields like farming. I don't really see masculinity as just a set of qualities though, but the biological pressures that encourage those qualities too. It's not that there is some magical p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/21 10:59 PM
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Great point. It also works in the other direction too. It divides white people by gender into oppressor/oppressed groups but does not do so to people of other races. And it continues on along all majority groups. In the end it all leads to trying to single out straight, white, cis men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/21 10:45 PM
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No I think it is important to have a positive view of masculinity. That isn't to say you can't have criticisms of some aspects of masculinity. It's important to note that masculinity is observed and codified. It wasn't made up whole cloth. A lot of these ideas stem from biological differences between men and women. If you find yourself looking at these two phenomenon and feeling that masculinity is inferior to femininity or vice versa, I would say something is probably wrong with how you define …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/21 10:24 PM
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There are maybe a grand total of 3 dudes who think they're entitled to something If one doesn't feel entitled to something they don't complain about being denied it. Yes, because social interaction is a female industry. They set the standards. Some men can play the game, some have to learn, some can't learn. This is strange idea to me. Social interaction is not an 'industry' nor is it exclusive to one gender. No one person makes the rules for social interaction and groups will interact different…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/21 07:48 PM
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The desire for sex is almost never about the physical act of putting a penis in a vagina. So what do you want that you feel you are so entitled to? The thing is, incels are an easy boogeyman to target and laugh at. The majority of incels are awkward loners (and some of them are probably autistic in some way) and don't understand social dynamics at all. The ones who are violent and even have any fantasies of being violent are a minority. Do you believe that men are naturally more socially awkward…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/21 09:16 PM
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Doesn't count. How so? Are you after something other than sex perhaps? Easily obtained if they decide to act self aware. That is what people say about incels too. What is easy for some isn't easy for others.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/21 05:35 AM
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This is miserable comfort for the massive amount of men that can't get a relationship or sex. Well you can always pay for sex. A relationship takes commitment and that is partly what many women have difficulty getting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/21 03:48 AM
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Yeah I would bet the people saying this are well aware of where they experience issues. They know any advantage is fleeting. They just say this to make people like OP feel like he has to work that much harder to get a women. Your reply is good. Also useful to remember that the more they sleep around the more difficult that ring get's.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/21 11:53 PM
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I'd take male forms of interaction over female forms any day. I might not have a sense of brotherhood with all men, but I have loyalty from my friends in a way I think most women don't. They have my back and I have theirs. When I see how my wife interacts with her friends I wouldn't say I am jealous. Always so much more drama due to infighting. I think we made the right call.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/21 11:46 PM
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Capitalism tries to gaslight us into thinking those things don't exist because they don't fit its logic, but fuck capitalism. Complete opposite. At worst it tries to monetize these things through cards, gifts, art supplies, etc. Whatever you want capitalism will try to give you. The only issue is if you want genuine social connection you can't buy that from a store. You have to get it outside of capitalism because capitalism simply cannot provide it. Kind of like how you would have to get everyt…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/21 11:40 PM
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I have argued against that position before too. But at least this sub is somewhat more consistent. If they supported paternal surrender and banned anybody disagreeing while also supporting bans on abortion and banning anybody disagreeing. Then they'd be doing a similar thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/21 11:24 PM
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Tbh I think discussion are more productive when feminists aren't present.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/21 03:15 AM
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No literally never. I think you need help and I hate to think how much internalized misandry you possess.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/21 03:14 AM
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But a good analogy would be a BLM group made up of mostly white "we swear we're not racist" Trump supporters. Followed by example after example of them being racist, and the group tolerating that. Take away the trump support and this is pretty accurate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/21 12:55 AM
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I stopped bothering to even attempt engaging them when they banned the topic of male procreation rights (what they callously call "financial abortion"). Guessing they banned any talk of prohibiting abortion too right? Don't want to deal with that combination hot potato.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/21 12:54 AM
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It's a radical leftist ideology masquerading as liberal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/21 09:34 PM
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Pure speculation but my guess is that a nihilistic approach wouldn't be very healthy. I think to some extent you have to pick and choose based on a combination of personal experience and role modelling. Understanding even in a very simplistic way why masculinity is important will allow you to understand when you can disregard it without too much worry. I think while it is probably more difficult now, these roles have always been a minefield of shifting expectations. People are very fickle in the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/21 11:37 PM
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You aren't understanding what I said. In saying that even when you know the consecuences of your actions you shouldn't be forced to deal with them if there is an easy way to avoid them. This depends what the other options are and who they effect. I can't kill my mistress to deal with the possible consequences of my wife finding out about my infidelity. I might not like those consequences, but since it was my responsibility to have to make it right and can't shift any of that burden to another. I…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/21 10:13 PM
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Except healing bones doesn't cause the death of innocent people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/21 09:19 PM
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This is really just as stupid as thinking all we talk about is football, it is a refusal to see our humanity. Yeah what about baseball?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/21 01:44 AM
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They wish. Mostly when I am hanging out with dudes the last thing we want to talk about is women. We talk about all the shit we like that women usually aren't interested in. For me it's sport, politics and hunting. This is a female fantasy that plays into women's egos, that is why they like to believe it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/21 01:42 AM
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Yeah while I think most women don't talk this way most of the time I think it certainly is more common than it is with men. By a lot.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/21 01:35 AM
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Sure. What is your interpretation though? Apart from saying she is bad faith you don't actually say why you think so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/21 01:27 PM
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That's not the way I remember the whole thing going I mean it was a pretty simple thread. She asked how to handle shitty or hateful feminists and got chewed out. What explanation other than bad faith is there? You'd think Reddit would be more chill then? Well it's more chill than Twitter I guess. I don't know if chill social media is possible though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/21 12:41 PM
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I do think it is interesting that gay men seem to decidely choose the company of women especially at a younger age. Maybe it makes sense due to the fear of rejection and homophobia that men maybe incite more. But then when I look at the lesbians I don't see the same dynamic which is interesting. Could be related to more homophobia from men, but then I really don't see the benefit of acting more effeminate, as that just makes you more rejected from male groups.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/21 11:55 PM
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I just think it is weird that you read that thread and felt like OP was the one acting in bad faith because they were lying, despite no evidence of this being the case. Seems like an ideologically convinient assumption to make, especially if you acknowledge bad feminists do exist. Even stranger that you defended people lambasting her dating to ask how people deal with bad feminists or how a good feminist might. It seems their message was clear, you must ignore bad feminists and castigate those w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/21 11:50 PM
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Yes and it's my right to question the obvious bias in when you choose to do so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/21 11:13 PM
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Yeah I can't say I really see a lot of that myself although I can definitely see it has been your experience. Interesting that you say it is healing though. My first though was that appearing feminine would be more helpful attracting straight men than gay men. Which implies that gay male sexuality has been trying to appeal to the majority of straight men instead or the minority of gay men and possibly it is a correction of that. Otherwise I'm trying to understand why it would have gotten that wa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/21 01:09 PM
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Right they are battle axes, just tough women and OP is bad faith. I mean she dared ask a question about bad feminists, while they just wanted to deny that they existed. Seems to me the only way you could get the impression is if you actually think these feminists don't exist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/21 12:54 PM
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They are associating being gay with being féminine, while there is a huge chunk of the gay community that is precisely hyper-masculine, and resent the stereotype of gays as effeminate. Hyper-masculinity is valued in gay communities because it is attractive but I wouldn't say that gay men are in general hyper-masculine. I'd say they are indeed generally less masculine than your average straight guy. And even if feminists were completely correct, which I don't think they are, what they'd be pointi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/21 11:54 PM
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A very simple way to illustrate this idea is to simply ask them if they are mutually exclusive terms. If they say yes it's a bit if a rabbit hole but usually since they believe patriarchy hurts men too they will answer no.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/21 11:41 PM
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Yes. The only people who are acting in bad faith to me look to be the people denying she could have ever been treated badly by feminists in real life (as opposed to online) or that she must have deserved it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/21 11:33 PM
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I've given a longer story about all of this before but very specifically I remember some of the most paradigm shifting conversations I had with feminists and various progressives were ones where they would concede conservative talking points. So when talking about male incarceration feminists would say "but we are looking at different crimes" and while talking about paternal surrender they would say "consent to sex is consent to parenthood". Honestly this is what really caught me up on what was …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/21 11:18 PM
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But the first thing I want to do is get up the ass of feminists. Feminists are the biggest men's rights issue moving forward.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/21 10:33 PM
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Bad faith to them doesn't actually mean bad faith, it means not interacting with them in the specific manner they want to be interacted with in. You can be good faith and want an honest answer to a question the sub doesn't want to answer. This whole idea of good faith really has been taken too far, by people of bad faith who have identified that this is a useful rheorical tool for them, to push your desired truth as so obvious that only those in bad faith would question it. That way no questioni…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/21 10:22 PM
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You are sorry I am leaving maybe but not sorry about why I am leaving. Doesn't mean that much. I mean you'd just as soon be banning me if I continued with most of these conversations. Can't be that sorry anyway.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/21 11:31 PM
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Right. So you aren't sorry at all. At least be honest next time, people might have missed the sarcasm.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/21 09:22 PM
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Well you are a mod so maybe you can clarify. Will I be banned for making pro life arguments here? Nothing is in the rules against it but I have been PM'ed by a member who has warned me this is the case.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/21 10:50 PM
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You know I might just go over to a different sub. Apparently I could get banned for arguing about abortion here and I'd rather not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/21 10:36 PM
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But here's the thing, I knew the skateboard was damaged and knew it could hurt you. I even said I knew it was damaged, but I didn't tell you (I should have made that clearer). It's my fault in this scenario that you got hurt. You can't sue the manufacture due to that. I'm the one to blame for your injury. Sure so that is similar to somebody sabotaging contraceptives. I would call that reproductive coercion and I believe reproductive coercion does violate consent and undermine your responsibility…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/21 10:31 PM
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Consenting to an accident is a contradiction in terms to begin with. We don't consent to accidents, we consent to actions with risk.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/21 01:59 AM
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So if the other driver is responsible we hold them to account for their actions. Idk how this applies to sex if both parties consent though, would you hold one more responsible than the other? Seems to me they both took the risk.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/21 01:58 AM
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Yeah I think if you told me it was of a certain quality and it wasn't than you have an issue with informed consent and could possibly sue the manufacturer. I'd see this as similar to if a manufacturer gave you condoms that didn't work. Personally my solution here would be to mandate costs of the child are paid by the company who was making the faulty contraception until 18. It's a big cost but we have really built up this very important issue around consent, so we have kind of made our own bed. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/21 01:56 AM
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"Consenting to sex is not consenting to being a parent" See I don't know about this. Conceiving a child is a well known possible outcome of sexual intercourse. By consenting to having sex you are at the very least consenting to an activity you know has the potential of making you a parent. It's like if I go skateboarding I fully realize I have the potential to break myself off and get seriously injured. I consent to the activity despite this, so I can't then turn around say I didn't consent to b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/21 11:32 PM
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I am still not sure how it specifically improved the lives of men though. We all pay tax. Now with women retiring later we will all pay less tax. It's more taking away a benefit women had that was paid for by society. It's good but it's not exactly a vitory on men's rights issues but fiscal conservatism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/21 12:21 AM
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I kind of doubt you wouldn't get numbers like in other countries, like Australia or New Zealand, where circumcision is still relatively common. Doesn't seem like there is any kind of tipping point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/20 10:22 AM
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But the idea that the man has to be the “Strong stoic provider” is crumbling fast. I'm not sure it is. It is going to look different, but as long as sexual labor required to have a child is mostly done by women I'm not sure why you wouldn't expect reciprocal expectations placed on men. It's just that the male gender role itself is fragile because it has to adapt to whatever needs to be done to provide for the family and that is ever-changing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/12/20 04:17 AM
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Why do they think 20-25% is a tipping point?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/12/20 04:00 AM
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I was in a similar place and I gotta tell you the best thing to do is leave. It's up to you who you surround yourself with and I guarantee you that surrounding yourself with people like that will psychologically damage you unless you seriously contextualize and repackage everything they say and that is a lot of effort (and honestly just means you can't take them seriously). You need friends you can rely on, you need a partner who shares your values, you need a community that accepts you. These t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/20 03:29 AM
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It seems to follow a pretty simple formula that goes like this: 1) identify inequality that disadvantages men 2) claim that we need to commission a report or support a policy plan that aims to redress these differences. Before supporting any kind of action my question is always, what specifically are you planning to do to address these differences and why will it work? Part of that needs to include why it was an unfairly discriminatory system in the first place. All of that seems missing here an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/12/20 06:04 AM
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God that is entertaining. Seems like it really caused a stir. My fav removed comment was this Who cares, it doesn't prove anything, and doesn't make sense anyway, and whoever came to this unexpected conclusion probably didn't examine it carefully, causing damage, suffering and unnecessary work that'll have to done to rectify this male biased claim, - in fact I bet they'll find the opposite result next time if they do it properly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/12/20 09:26 PM
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No Man said that Women must wear make up Lol I never said they did. Do you think that is the only way they could be connected? Also, stop using the word "Toxic Masculinity". I didn't and I don't. Apparently you do though, which makes this request a little odd. You like to try to create rules you don't have to follow ey? Wait... what? I thought Dating was about getting to know each other casually and not a rigorous Darwinian Examination where i have to approach the woman like i'm applying for a j…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/12/20 09:11 PM
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Nope, we don't. Beauty industry is snake oil which has nothing to do with what Men want. It has a lot to do with what men want. A lot of make up purposefully tries to mimic signs of fertility. What I think you are talking about is a dislike of mimicry instead of authenticity, which is what a lot of make up also purposely tries to go for. But even totally aside from the make up industry I think men care more about looks. So, what do Women want? Do they want to be strong&independent or do they wan…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/12/20 10:48 AM
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Never listen to women when it comes to dating. Seriously. When you want tips on fishing you ask a fisherman, not a fish.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/12/20 12:33 AM
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I have a story similar to yours. I was in university about 6 years ago when the UVA scandal hit. I was a basic bitch liberal with progressive beliefs, probably would have been a big destiny fan if I knew who he was. That was kind of where I was at. I went to a lot of protests and was political involved. I believed in social justice and was a feminist. Maybe socialist friendly but not a Marxist. Anyway UVA really changed my view on these things because it hit the people I was around very hard. My…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/12/20 12:26 AM
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I just mean conforming to the role in some aspects. I see it like beauty standards. You can complain all day about the standard being unfair. But then when you look at what men care about, they seem to care much more about looks. So it isn't really unfair that this is reflected in standards for the opposite sex. Women like to be provided for much more than men do, we should expect to see the same difference in standards here if not more. And of course you can feel free to reject or date anybody.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/20 09:21 PM
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Come on bud. When we see body positivity for women they aren't all dressed up as lumberjacks.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/20 02:27 PM
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I agree that when we redefine masculinity or femininity it doesn't look the same. Here are my examples though. We need to get rid of toxic masculinity to prevent domestic violence against women. We need to get rid of feminine beauty standards so women don't feel bad about not meeting that standard. Some people will prioritize women in these redefinitions every time. I don't agree that we should focus so much on dating dynamics like who initiates and who pays. I think we are much better off accep…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/20 02:24 PM
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The real question is why are tax payers still paying for this? Both the UK and the US have passed laws to try to remove it from government departments, hopefully universities will be next. Maybe one day soon there won't be masculinities studies outside of Twitter, where we can happily ignore as was meant to be.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/20 12:22 PM
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Yeah If they got average looking dudes and treated them like male models this would be body positivity. This is attacking masculinity as a concept more than anything.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/20 10:40 PM
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There are a lot of issue I have with this actually. Firstly it mistakes feminizing men with liberating men. When you see body positivity campaigns for women they don't cast exclusively from the lesbian community and purposely try to portray them in the most masculine way possible. They instead conform to the femininity those women wished they possessed, just with a non confirming body type. Then people come along and try to carbon copy these campaigns and it ends up being very emasculating. The …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/20 05:35 AM
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I didn't realize there was different requirements around posting a commenting. How long until I'm not a leper anymore?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/20 09:49 PM
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This video is a brilliant take down the tolerance paradox and how we incorrectly talk about tolerance. Like most Jreg videos it never really ventures out of ironic criticism, but instead struggles to run around in circles to create the 'most intolerant' position. Much like we can see people do today wirh the discussion on tolerance and if tolerating intolerance is tolerant or intolerant. Truth is this is an example of bad framing. You never get pure tolerance or pure intolerance because they are…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/20 09:47 PM
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I think the original post was fairly petty and made the author seem quite fragile. Yes kids, both male and female, can be tickled and kids sometimes become upset because they feel as if the laughter is uncontrollable and it justifies something they want to stop. I get that kids don't like this sometimes. But these sorts of situations teach kids to handle themselves. You don't always have to fight your way out, that might be one way to handle it. Another way would be to not react to be tickled, i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/20 04:10 AM
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There absolutely is. Which is why I felt compelled to comment because pretending stress is why everybody or even a majority of people drink is pretty inaccurate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/20 03:51 AM
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I think they do it more so to fit in, make new friends and maybe pick up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/20 07:54 AM
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I am caught in between a little. I do agree that the deadbeat trope is overused and to some extent plays a very controlling role in men's lives. Men fear being a deadbeat and often will go to extremes to prevent it, which warps their perception of what is normal and expected and makes them self sacrifice much more than others would. However that is not what is happening in the article. The author is right, 31 year old living with his parents and given money and guidance to move out but doesn't a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/20 07:00 AM
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In general. I am aware and not much of a fan of the major breadtubers. But maybe I missed somebody.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/20 06:25 AM
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Who do you like as far as sensible left wingers? Not specifically for gender issues either, just in general.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/20 05:55 AM
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We have to be brave enough to talk about the drinking and party culture we have created. For so many young people going out and having a good night must entail getting smashed. It think there is a heavy connection to hook up culture and dating as well. The ideal is go out get drunk and get laid, validating your sexual worth while avoiding responsibility for any sexual activity. Now maybe I'm biased because I've never been a big drinker and don't really like dancing much so I am not a massive par…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/20 04:15 AM
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I don't think that is why most young men drink.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/20 04:01 AM
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When you look at the impact of illicit drugs it seems to disproportionately effect men too. Causing all of the same issues regarding addiction, homelessness, road deaths etc. I think there are probably pluses and minuses to different substances. I don't think marijuana is as bad as methamphetamine, but I think all of them pose serious risks for users and men seem to use more. So even if the drug war was a failure and we should legalize drugs, I don't think aiming to replace drinking culture with…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/20 03:59 AM
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But how's that different from being a strong independent woman? Well because guys don't really care that much if you are a strong independent women, generally speaking. I fail to see how there's anything unique about the "male gender role" if it can be easily applied to Women as well. Its just a model citizen role at this point. Gender roles are mostly things each gender can perform. They don't exist because of some kind of exclusive ability. And i consider it the height of hypocrisy, most peopl…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/20 09:48 AM
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Yes. And bi guys are accepted but basically just seen as gay. As a general heuristic anyway.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/20 10:54 PM
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It absolutely is, Traditional Male Gender Role is all about sacrifice and devoting yourself to the family, how is this good for Men? Being a thankless workhorse isn't any better than being a Incel is, in fact one could argue that being an incel is better as you're not burdened with responsibilities. I think it can be if you let people tell you that it mostly means self sacrifice. I think that is mostly BS. It's not sacrifice it's a trade and you don't have to do it to conform with the gender rol…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/20 10:49 PM
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It's the other way around though. Bi women are seen as straight and just messing around. Harmless fun. Bi men are seen as gay but in denial. Either way we want to assert that they absolutely love penis and not vagina.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/20 05:42 AM
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Men are not trusted around children and women don’t trust strange men I think this has more to do with the vulnerability of women and children. Men are generally trusted fine with other men and children are generally not trusted to be alone. Women fall in between. It's a matter of physical strength I think. I think men project their own shortcomings as viewed by society onto women. I agree to some extent, but I think it's more about sexual morality than shortcomings. Men and women have to come t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/20 04:10 AM
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Damaged in terms of desirability maybe. But who decides that? Men do. It's not a mistrust of male sexuality but an insecurity about it. Due to men suffering parental uncertainty. If male sexuality was distrusted you'd think sexually successful men would be less desirable, not more.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/20 09:04 PM
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That is just as silly. A group of elites didn't get together in a smokey room to decide what our cultural norms would be. These things are emergent. And they emerged in nearly every culture across the globe. The real issue is at some point in the 20th centurary a group of academics and activists decided this was completely a social construction with no basis in our biology. Without being too essentialist, I find this difficult to believe.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/20 06:09 AM
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I’ve always thought some people viewing women with many sex partners as slutty or damaged is because male desire is seen as dirty. Really? I think it really implies the opposite. That men are more likely to view promisciousness as dirty when looking for opposite sex partners. I mean women seem to mind a lot less about their own partners sexual history and if anything seem to prefer experience. And I'd say they only care about it for other women due to an awareness of men's preferences. After all…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/20 06:04 AM
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Feminists by-and-large aren't not these people I think people are a little more complex than that. I know feminists who will talk to you face to face and be polite and tell you they believe in equality and men's rights. But when in a group of more agreeable people are basically outright misandrists who have no issues basically saying that men's issues are entirely self caused. Many will get away with as much as you let them, because the goal is just to vent about anger they feel towards men. Hon…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/20 01:20 AM
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They aren't victims of the patriarchy they are victims of a system that excuses the behaviour of violent women and would incarcerate them for fighting back. The good it does for feminism is that it empowers women and that is a major to goal of feminism, empower women as much as possible and claim it is because they deserve it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/20 01:09 AM
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Yeah it's like they think if they remove the label we have to pretend they don't exist and their behavior isn't completely reprehensibe.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/20 01:05 AM
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Could be the complete opposite. Affirmative action puts less capable people into the workforce and therefore concentrates work on the more capable workers who did not need affirmative action. We have seen work life balance suffer at the same time affirmative action rose in popularity. Japan could be an outlier that has nothing to do with affirmative action and everything to do with their honor culture and strong family obligations.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/20 01:46 AM
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How is that related to affirmative action? Seems like a cultural thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/20 01:07 AM
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It's nowhere near as much work if you relax about it. I mean it's just talking to people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/20 01:05 AM
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Other men can chime in, but I don't enjoy the process of courtship and having to be the one to invest countless hours and emotions into the process You just care too much. You don't need to be validated by women. The trick is to be able to put effort into courtship without giving a shit about rejection. It's more about getting what you want from the situation and what sort of trade offs you are willing to make. For men this involves a certain level of emotional toughness in the courtship stage. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/20 01:02 AM
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I'm generally not in favor of it. In the sense that I would not date a sex worker and would probably think strongly about even being close friends with one. I think especially for women it involves selling off an emotional part of yourself that you have to let run cold to do the work. I'm not jealous at all of women who use only fans, I feel bad for them. They don't understand how many men feel it degrades them or how it changes their interactions with men. And to the question of jealousy. I thi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/20 12:54 AM
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Yes it happened to me when I started posting here. It's a fine system, just might be easier to let people know what the restrictions are when you are enacting them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/20 03:03 AM
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Just a suggestion for the mods. It might be a good idea to put the karma and age requirements in this message. I am new here and still don't actually know what they are, even though I apparently meet them now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/20 01:59 AM
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I don't disagree with the original poster in that it is mostly said out of anger and usually not meant seriously. So is a lot of misogyny. The point isn't the statement but the hatred and how that affects their actions. You can't hold hatred towards an identifiable and unavoidable group without it effecting your actions in negative ways. When it is aimed at the opposite gender there is no way that it cannot have a rather serious effect on your relationships too. I know people with so much dating…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/20 01:54 AM
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You shouldn't need to walk on eggshells just to hear of an argument and if you do it certainly isn't going to be remedied by being nicer.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/20 01:29 AM
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In my opinion this is a very good explanation of how priviledge is a reductive concept with little applicability. Do any MRAs here believe in priviledge and does Douglas accurately represent it in this video, are his criticisms valid?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/20 03:41 AM
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Here is everything it extended to. It was really good policy imo. (1)one race or sex is inherently superior to another race or sex; (2) the United States is fundamentally racist or sexist; (3) an individual, by virtue of his or her race or sex, is inherently racist, sexist, or oppressive, whether consciously or unconsciously; (4) an individual should be discriminated against or receive adverse treatment solely or partly because of his or her race or sex; (5) members of one race or sex cannot and…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/20 03:54 AM
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Critical race theory. It was the one that involved bans of racism or sexism in government training or in training by any corporation receiving a government contract. Basically diversity training.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/20 07:27 AM
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Yes and you should expect him too. He will also undo the ban on CRT. Worst part is I doubt you will get a conservative willing to challange the social justice left like trump did for a while now. And you sure as shit won't get a progressive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/20 07:14 AM
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It always falls back to the last one. I know many people who would say it was probably his fault he was cheated on and he is just mad that he couldn't keep his relationship together. Also he should pay child support because he married her. They just hyper fixate any choices men make and ignore all else.
/r/MensRights11/11/20 12:31 AM
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I haven't seen this at all in relation to turning people down. I do see it in regard to stated preferences. It has always seemed weird to me that some women and even some men have an issue with guys liking beautiful women. We are objectifying women if we say we don't like fat chicks. I haven't seen a women scolded for stating she doesn't like any attribute a man could have, fat, short, bald w/e. It's perfectly understandable if you aren't attracted to them, but for some reason men are just meant…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/20 11:44 PM
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