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Question For Menserpensmercurialis/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 10:51 PM
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Males solve the problem. Have you seen the average man try to tackle an emotional problem? Half the time they can’t even bring themselves to admit there’s a problem and turn to some form of escape instead. I can use a multimeter, but he hasn’t even figured out how to sit with his feelings at 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 10:43 PM
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Yeah yeah, if you tell your bro about your feelings then he’s going to call you gay. Tragic. How could “society” do this to men? People better fix it by emotionally investing in relationships with men that they will never get emotional returns on. That’s the solution obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 10:30 PM
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It’s not other people’s job to make you not a coward. They can’t do that even if they wanted to. If you want connection, then you risk vulnerability and emotional exposure. No amount of whining will ever change that or let someone else do it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:54 PM
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Lmfao. If being alone is so bad then I am sure you will find a way to overcome your cowardice. Simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:54 PM
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You act like men are born emotionally neutered and they don't choose to be that way as a reaction to the society they're in. I do, because even in situations where it is safe, they choose not to engage in healthy behavior because it means giving up some of their personal power in the interaction. They want other people to be attached to them without being vulnerable or emotionally exposed themselves. Having their cake and eating it too. And, as they are realizing, that is not how it works. Even …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:04 AM
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If you don’t want to be vulnerable with anyone in your daily life, that is fundamentally a problem with you. Go be vulnerable and emotionally exposed with other men if women are so spooky.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:31 AM
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Seems to be the only flavor that isn’t deeply insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:46 PM
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No. Primarily because most bad behavior from men in relationships stems from them failing to deal with their insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:31 PM
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The “male loneliness epidemic” is a result of their emotional detachment in everyday life making them distant from the people around them, not a problem caused by a lack of romantic relationships. If men don’t want to be lonely, then they have to risk vulnerability and emotional exposure. But they won’t do that, so they will remain “lonely” (statistically men in western countries aren’t particularly more lonely than women btw).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:15 PM
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Most guys who act like this have a scarcity mindset. That’s why the insecurely attached act this way. Only women who are even more insecure in their worth respond to tactics like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:23 PM
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How do men higher in the dominance hierarchy behave towards men lower on the dominance hierarchy (especially in high school for the younger dudes), and vice versa? There’s your answer. “Chad” is dominating them while they are appeasing or subjugated (“nice”).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:31 AM
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I think what he’s saying is more that they don’t feel like they have the power to get laid without investing first, whether or not they actually want to be invested long-term. And if a women expect proof of committment/care before sex, then she prevented the heart break. I don’t really think this alone prevents heartbreak. Definitely weeds out some low-effort dudes just looking to bang, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 01:22 AM
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It's pretty easy to pretend everyone else has ulterior motives and are the assholes, instead of looking in the mirror. The irony of you making this statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 11:16 PM
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It’s pretty easy when you’re not deceiving everyone around you so that they will non-consensually participate in your fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 10:48 PM
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Said the dude who jerks off to the idea of wearing a hot girl’s panties and is asking reddit to help him plan how to deceive his future partner about it… very likable qualities, it’s unbelievable that someone who does these things would be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 10:05 PM
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You can try and deflect all you want. You are what you are, and no matter how much you lie and deny, at the end of the day you still are those things. And you will be judged appropriately as a creep for the lying, denying, and trying to act out your fetish in public, rightfully so. Cry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:56 PM
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You evade saying this outright, because you know you'll sound like a loser, so you disguise it as "they're not being true to themselves, that's why it's creepy". Lying to people to rope them into sexually gratifying you is wrong. You are the one who is too much of a coward to be honest about how you really feel, so you try to act like your desire to wear panties isn’t a fetish. Unfortunately for you, most people aren’t stupid. If you’re going to ~ live authentically uwu ~ then be authentic inste…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:09 PM
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This is NOT about me or asking for advice, it's just a hypothetical scenario. Literally the entire premise of your post is a lie. You keep denying that this is exactly what it looks like because this entire post is to form a strategy to deceive a woman. Your behavior is disgusting and always will be no matter how many sparkles you use to try to cover it up. I hope the pathetic cooming is worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:56 PM
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Again, do you think trans women do it because it's a fetish? Some do transition due to AGP. You will probably find yourself among them since you imagine yourself as a woman in those clothes. Also, why do you think it's creepy? It’s creepy because you’re lying so that you can engage in your fetish without social judgment. You’re trying to rope her into your kink without being fully honest about what the gratification is (being seen in women’s clothing). You’re trying to take away her consent for …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 04:42 PM
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Why do I think “euphoria” after putting on women’s clothing you find attractive is a fetish? Because I know what autogynephilia and crossdressing fetishes are. And you do too, but you’re playing dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 04:27 PM
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Anyone else have this feeling? I can see a woman wear leggings, skirts, shorts, a blouse, a cami, a coat, boots, or basically anything I find attractive that is commonly found in the women's clothing section and I get this euphoric feeling by imagining myself wearing them. Not a fetish btw. It’s the fact you can’t be honest about it that makes it fucking creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:00 AM
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If it’s something you reasonably believe the other person will dump you over, then you should say it as soon as you think it’ll be a long-term commitment. It’s something you as the kink haver have a responsibility to filter for. He is not doing it as a kink or asking his partner to "participate" in it, he just wants to wear feminine clothing more often because he enjoys it. This is just a bald-faced lie. Men who “just like” wearing feminine clothing don’t need to make it weird. The ones who feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:41 AM
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The difference is a wardrobe takes time, money, and effort to curate. It’s a massive pain in the ass to change all that because a guy is insecure. Not posting thirst traps would be more equivalent to what you’re saying because it’s simply a matter of not doing a behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 06:45 PM
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is that totally unrelated to being single vs being committed? For the most part, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 06:39 PM
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You know, a lot of people on this sub are kinda like Tony Soprano’s mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 04:02 AM
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software engineering major who watched anime and played League of Legends in his free time. For real though, those are all red flags. Guys just don’t feel threatened by nerds, so they’re invisible to them in these discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 12:49 AM
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Yeah yeah, and the people who used to post on the fatpeoplehate sub just really cared about people’s health. They’re not joking about killing somebody. They’re just eating butter noodles every once in a while and memeing about it, and for some reason this triggers something within you that is deeply miserable. I find that often the people who get angry about random harmless things other people do are very insecure themselves. Good luck with that, because most well adjusted people are not going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 10:54 PM
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As in level of effort and level of comfort, not cost. You have high blood pressure or something? Jesus. If they made a post saying it’s a struggle meal or it’s a tired dinner, I would have no problems with this at all. But by placing a gender in front of it it implies way more than it should. It implies only women eat this way when that’s not true, or that women should or can eat this way, which they shouldn’t. There’s also the additional problem of some of these meals are just straight up unhea…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 10:08 PM
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As in a lack of effort. It’s easy and a comfy meal, not a cheap one. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:56 PM
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If you’re eating a “girl dinner” because that’s all you can afford That's not what a "girl dinner" is. It's effort and comfort, not cost lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:00 AM
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Incredibly paranoid and delusional take.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 04:02 PM
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It’s extra funny they hold this view knowing the OP is from India, which was colonized by the British. For example, the 1872 census in Bengal suggested that the population was considerably greater than had been believed. A supervisor there noted that it "rose in one day from 42 to 67 millions" and that the Lieutenant-Governor"suddenly found that he had unconsciously been the ruler of an additional population more than equal to that of the whole of England and Wales". “We need more bodies!” Are y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 01:03 AM
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They’re dating men outside the 18-29 age group, genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 12:05 AM
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The under 30yo statistic says that 63% of men are single and 34% of women are single. Do you understand what that means? At minimum 27% of all women under 30 sure as hell aren't in exclusive relationships. 27+34 = 61% of women are single or non-exclusive. That's at minimum. You are factually wrong. No, you’re the one who is wrong, because a good chunk of that gap is in the cohabiting and married category, and men catch up in the 30-39 age range. Men, on average, get into cohabitation and marriag…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 12:04 AM
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This is creating economic, social and even security issues for Nations, just a stat I would like to point to of a developed progressive country like Sweden has 50% of all of its households are Single Adult households, no partners, no kids. Now my question to women here is, Do you really think that the rights and freedoms you hold would not be challenged by some enemy that doesn’t hold them? I mean currently the biggest national security liability is men being too fat and mentally ill. When that …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:48 PM
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Again, such “cues” make you feel better. The people that you direct them at all say it it doesn’t help, it’s just self indulgence on your part Feel better about what? It’s not their relationship. Those people are being direct with you about what the next step should be. You’ve probably at this point already dug your heels in that it’s some unsolvable problem, and most people will avoid getting stuck in the weeds arguing about that, but don’t want to enable it either. It’s a nudge towards accepti…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:02 PM
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I mean yeah, you’re hung up on being emotionally validated instead of focusing on safety. Those phrases are cues - “stop chasing emotional validation and work on solving the problem instead.” In the case of abuse, we know you feel bad. That’s kind of the point of an abusive relationship. You want to stop feeling bad? Then choose better. Leave. Do the thing. Of course nobody likes that advice - doing the thing is hard and they don’t want to do the thing. But if it’s necessary, then it’s necessary…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:46 AM
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The problem with all of this shit is that abuse victims already blamed themselves for years which is why they stayed in the first place. I have spoken with hundreds of survivors and they practically all say the same thing. “If I hadn’t talked back, he wouldn’t have hit me.” “If I had only…” “I shouldn’t have…” “I should have…” You’ll end up with an entire generation of lonely abusers who never have the opportunity to abuse anybody because as we teach young people to spot red flags and run for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:32 AM
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If your problem is repeatedly finding yourself in abusive relationships, then yes, it actually does solve the problem. That is the entire point of personal agency here. Instead of giving a literal abuser the only ability to “solve the problem,” you solve it yourself instead by leaving them and not being romantically involved with men until you fix whatever problem caused you to end up with an abusive one in the first place. I don’t understand how you think it’s rational to instead expect an abus…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:54 AM
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I truly do not understand the preoccupation with “blame” in this situation that people like you have. It’s mind boggling. “You actually can avoid being abused in the future even if you were abused in the past. You can learn from your mistakes. You’re not completely helpless to abusers and bullies forever. You are capable of having a healthy relationship, although you may have to change and grow.” “Wow are you saying it’s my fault somehow? That’s very dismissive!” It’s like listening to one of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:17 AM
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The solution just isn't nearly as simple as the keyboard warriors pretend it is. It can take people a lot of hard work to figure out. On the contrary, I think people caught up in their own melodrama tend to overcomplicate these things. Can’t trust yourself to be in a relationship with someone who won’t abuse you? Then just stay single. Everybody thinks their trauma is so complex and this special exception to common sense rules. News flash: it’s not. If you see a problem, then you work on solving…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 09:46 AM
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“Choose better” is telling you what the solution is. If you are upset and traumatized by being in abusive relationships, then there are thousands of books out there that can teach you how to avoid them. If you choose not to learn or stay single, then it becomes more difficult for most people to find sympathy because you are rejecting solutions in favor of being miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 09:26 AM
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Most abusive guys tend to have a pretty specific look and attitude. Usually they are really tall, muscular, tats, etc. It's not hard to spot aggressive dudes. Problem is, many women are attracted to that. It's cool if you want that kind of guy, but don't get surprised when the big dude with a neck tattoo who you asked to choke you actually chokes the shit out of you. I think you’re only noticing dudes that you feel physically scared of or something. Play video games sometime. You’ll realize that…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 09:20 AM
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Sometimes your picker is off and often because of childhood trauma you never resolved. Saying pick better to people with this problem isn't helpful in any way. It’s only unhelpful if they won’t listen. The problem you describe is unironically that person picking incorrectly due to personal problems. The solution is solving those personal problems and picking better, or just staying single. “Woe is me, I can’t change and I’m doomed to be in these relationships forever” is how people get killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 08:24 AM
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Somewhat true. For most, unless they’re intentionally sadistic, hateful, and entitled, most of the time they’re just too stupid and incompetent to figure out more adaptive ways of getting what they want. They just try to unga bunga brute force it like they’re stunted children. Can’t really teach them better most of the time too. They’re locked in unless they miraculously decide one day to act differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 08:16 AM
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It’s really messed up when you think about it. How will we ever teach the next generation to not be abusive if the mindset is that survivors deserved what happened to them because they picked an abusive partner? How will you ever teach the next generation to avoid being abused if you act like their actions and choices have no impact on what happens to them? I don’t know why, but there is a flavor of person involved in past abusive relationships that is obsessed with “blame” as the focal point of…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 07:48 AM
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Insecure men will be fine fawning/simping over a woman they see as their superior. No, most of them get neurotic. The reason for this is that they perceive rejection as being likely, so they are constantly scanning for it and see rejection where there is no rejection. This heightened experience of rejection at benign or ambiguous interactions causes them to start to experience a lot of defensive hostility towards their partner. Any kind of feedback about their behavior that isn’t explicitly posi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 07:13 AM
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True. Definitely applies to both genders though. Insecure people destroy relationships either by picking wrong or driving away the good ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:50 AM
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Religiousness and where someone lives is more important than liberal/conservative views although they are related to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 05:53 PM
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I don’t even think it’s really about “choosing better.” Unless you’re away a lot due to work, how do you live with somebody and not realize they’re cheating on you physically unless you’re completely checked out of the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 05:50 PM
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So why do women get such an irrational and emotional response to paternity testing. Same reason people get upset when their partner asks to go through their phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 06:07 PM
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I love the notion that above average men are simply bad in bed and below average men are good. I don’t stall with foreplay because I’m insecure and nervous to the point I can’t stay hard. I am just particularly nice to women! Chad could never be as nice as me!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 07:01 AM
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Anxious attachment rationalizations be like:
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:31 PM
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I meant capability in terms of productive output. Women are as intelligent as men, but they can't physically compete with men and utilize their intelligence to the same degree that men do. Physical labor like warehouse work, sure. Would be interested in what evidence you have that they can’t utilize their intelligence to the same degree considering what I already posted. Women want to compete with men as equals but also seek special privileges to protect them from the weaknesses inherent in thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:02 AM
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Bro got cyberbullied by a memer libertarian and then came to reddit to lick his wounds with “w-well girls don’t like guys like you!” I think you should seriously consider why you let him get to you emotionally to this degree. He’s just saying bs to upset you and it works because you’re letting it work. Would I date the guy you described? No. For obvious reasons. But I wouldn’t date a guy like you either because you somehow are letting yourself get butthurt by that guy and then dwelling on it whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:30 AM
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This is why lies about women are fabricated and spread in society: to make them seem more valuable and indispensable, thus allowing them greater protection from offences and more freedom. Idk where you got this idea that women are somehow mentally inferior from. For reference, the difference in SAT scores between men and women is pretty small. For writing, it’s a 6-point advantage for women, and for math, it’s a 15 point advantage for men. A 9 point difference in their overall mean score. To put…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 09:26 PM
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My impression of the Japanese is that they feel somewhat softer towards their kids than Koreans. I could totally be wrong though. Early experiences of the family unit as a place of safety and warmth helps balance higher expectations and responsibilities to the family unit, so without that balance, I imagine the idea of a family becomes unappealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:20 PM
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Wouldn’t fuck him because my body is not the make a wish foundation. I would probably direct him to the services and support groups for people facing terminal illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:08 PM
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It’s not a strawman if it’s true, which you have confirmed it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:50 PM
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They’re expecting a woman they can share a comfortable silence with. This sentence alone tells me you have never been in a real relationship. You saw pulp fiction once and said “yeah that sounds profound! Must be true.” You have no idea how relationships work or what the expectations are, so why are you yapping about them like you’re an expert? You have entirely ignored my point and instead constructed complete bullshit strawman arguments. I would recommend spending your time doing something mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 09:33 AM
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However I have not seen much of women being pressured to change by men, That is literally my point. Men don’t have to ask women. It is an expectation that women accommodate what men want them to be, do, and look like, and anticipate their needs and desires without the man having to communicate them explicitly. This is why men say they can’t figure out what women want while acting like women are born with a “how to be attractive and physically seductive” handbook. Because women are trained to ant…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 08:34 AM
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One thing you’re forgetting is that women are often groomed socially to “adjust” their behavior, personality, and appearance to what the man they’re with wants. Not always to the level of being a pure NPC helpmeet, but at least to the level of making their partner happy without their partner having to ask for it. It’s only extremely recently that the main expectation of women’s behavior in a relationship isn’t that they make accommodations and change who they are, what they look like, and how th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:15 AM
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Low SES people invest less in most everything important. Their health, their community, their family, their relationships, their education, even basic QOL things like keeping a clean house. I heard someone describe them as “R-selected humans” (crude, I know) but I definitely think low SES people’s relationships tend to resemble that strategy, at least in comparison. Like, why would any guy bother with a low SES woman if that's the case Because they don’t want to invest. Here for a good time, not…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 11:24 PM
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Low SES women are less likely to be “decent women” because they are less likely to come from “decent” families and communities. If you are low SES or grew up in it yourself, then welcome to assortative mating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 05:49 AM
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Unwilling to change and unable to find a relationship that suits him as he is. For like 20 prime dating years. That’s crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 05:26 AM
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Attractive women wanting to date attractive men is more than fair. Why would it not be fair? Unattractive men simply have to compensate with something additional to make up for genetics. Should unattractive men not have to do anything to attract an attractive woman’s attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 11:43 PM
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They do. Femboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 05:46 PM
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If all it takes to date a conventionally attractive woman and not pay is to be conventionally attractive yourself, then how is it unfair? What are you whining about then? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 05:39 PM
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it seems like they derive more satisfaction from just talking about it with their male friends or showing it off like indirectly saying “look, I have a girlfriend, we’re intimate, and we spend time together, I'm not a loser haha” Well that’s because they are losers. That’s why they seek the immediate gratification of a girlfriend instead of actually working on themselves to not be losers. They’re not interested in actually not being losers, they’re just interested in not being viewed as such by …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:49 AM
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I would say a large chunk is 6): They have an idea of themselves that isn’t founded in reality or who they really are, and they want a woman to reflect that image back to them. When no woman does, the image becomes unstable, and they act out in a variety of ways. It’s why a lot of them need external validation and are highly preoccupied with external threats to their image of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:45 AM
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I can almost guarantee there are thousands of women on AI chatbot apps making their G’raha Tia fanfics come to life right now. They’re too busy drawing lewds of their favorite characters to make a femcel uprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:40 AM
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meanwhile the women who chose not to have a significantly smaller dating pool to choose from, most of which would be men that wouldn't be considered even averagely attractive? Crazy that you’re trying to spin the fact you can’t compete with other men for an attractive woman’s attention because you’re broke as some sort of moral issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:06 AM
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Yes it would be “morally fine.” Why would it not be? Get over it or don’t date those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 01:34 AM
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I couldn’t go to the store because of an injury so my boyfriend doused himself with the body spray testers so I could smell them. He’s just chilling now playing stalker 2 while smelling like the inside of a Victoria’s Secret. That’s a real man right there 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:19 AM
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would you say that's a fair dating hurdle women have to adapt to Who cares? If you don’t like it for any reason whatsoever, unfairness included, then don’t date them. This is literally something that can be vetted for on the first date. What’s next, if she doesn’t fuck you she should give you a participation trophy or she’s being “unfair” and a big meanie head? Lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:07 PM
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“I_love_studs” 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:23 PM
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I don’t think it’s as dichotomous as you present it. Most men don’t even handle their crush rejecting them very well, let alone losing an actual relationship. I personally had one guy who had a crush on me put “The Less I Know The Better” by Tame Impala on repeat because I talked to another dude. And what’s the point of caring about body count if what you say is true?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 06:24 AM
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I don't want more men going to prison or getting fired because there is a strong expectation for them to flirt with women or compliment women. What on god’s green earth are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 11:55 PM
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If you actually dig into BDSM, you’ll see the subs are typically leading the rules of an engagement, and gave the Dom permission to dominate them. but the SUB is the one choosing what happens. Submitting is giving permission to dominate. Often, in vanilla relationships, women may claim to want to be led, but they’re actually choosing the rules of engagement, so they’re the leader. They just aren’t the main actor in the engagement. but any man you ever hear say “she doesn’t like getting head” or …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 03:55 AM
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First link: Are you kidding me? If a guy wants a "submissive" woman, he wants a slave. Nothing about entitlement or women’s bodies. Just a run of the mill criticism. Second link: Women gleefully diss short or poor men but when men say obesity is unacceptable they get called misogynists not accepting body positivity. Also not about men being called entitled to women’s bodies for having preferences. Third link: Did you listen to like 5% of the argument that's been made around this topic? Personal,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 03:09 AM
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The kind that provides evidence men are being told they’re entitled to women’s bodies because they hold any kind of preference when dating. If it’s so common and pervasive, then it should be extremely easy, such as my pop culture example that they’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:22 AM
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I think it’s crazy when questions like this are directed at random women on the internet when in reality, the US government and military mainly used women’s rights as a way to justify the actions they wanted to take in the Middle East to the public. They didn’t actually give a shit about women as much as they wanted to use feminism to lend legitimacy to what they wanted to do in the region. For example, in Afghanistan, they used women’s rights as one of their political positions to oppose the Ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:17 AM
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Feel free to post evidence that shows “men having any kind of preferences for what kind of partner they'd like, are repeatedly told they're not entitled to women's bodies.” If you feel like your link supported that statement, then quote where.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:35 PM
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Nothing in your link supports your original statement: It is true but for some reason men having any kind of preferences for what kind of partner they'd like, are repeatedly told they're not entitled to women's bodies. The fact that that link (which doesn’t support your original claim) is the best external evidence you can find should tell you that your personal beliefs are wrong, but instead you continue this delusional worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:09 PM
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I don't know why so many women seem to want to always bring it down to a personal level and ignore the wider societal context when it's something they disagree with, but then fall back on social context to make a point they want to make. This is literally you describing your own behavior. “This doesn’t happen in the wider social context which is why you have no evidence that it is a social issue or that it exists the way you say it does,” “Well what about my personal experience!! That’s evidence…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:46 PM
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But fat people (especially women) are not criticized or denigrated for being fat, I don’t even know what to say to this lol. I really hope you’re just from Barbados or something. while male porn consumers (typically incels) are indeed. It's not a 1-1, not even close. Being denigrated is irrelevant to whether or not you have control over the behavior, which is what my comment was about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:33 PM
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The fact you don't even realize I literally used your own language from a few comments up and just proceeded to argue against your own point is fucking hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:38 PM
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Hot take but I think a lot of dudes hide behind “porn addiction” to explain away their lack of self-control with their base drives and impulses. Like fat people who blame genetics while they eat junk food. I think a lot of what you listed is just rationalization for why that lack of control is totally, definitely not the fault of the individual for not being able to control their own behavior, but it’s somehow actually everyone’s else’s fault and problem or someone “preying” on their "vulnerabil…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:31 PM
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monogamy as the norm: it’s not perfect but it’s the best system for ensuring the maximum amount of people have decent relationships. What planet did you grow up on where it wasn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:04 PM
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I am happy you don’t have these experiences, there are always exceptions, and I am glad you don’t have to face these issues. Doesn't mean nobody else does.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 02:32 PM
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Yes, it is sexist because it makes balls uncomfortably taut.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:36 AM
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It’s because it’s just random bullshit you made up and decided to call a “men’s issue.” I could make some random bullshit “men’s issue” up too. Uneven ballsack sagging. The feminists and their unrealistic standards for balls that are perfectly even and hang at the same level. Oh you don’t know about this? You must be too privileged to know about the persecution. This is what you sound like dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:23 AM
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Still zero evidence. There’s a reason nobody takes what you say seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 02:59 AM
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I still see absolutely zero evidence that supports your worldview. If me not being a man is the justification that my experience is less valid than your experience, then my boyfriend also shares my experience and not yours. Case closed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:02 PM
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Guess he’s learning a valuable lesson about doing the smart thing instead of the popular thing then. If that girl wants something that will mindlessly protect her against physical situations she gets herself into, then tell her to get a dog. It’s stupid to pretend to be a hero if you can’t back it up and it’s not my son’s job to protect her from learning that lesson. I would make sure he didn’t go to prison, but I would let him feel the stress of the bullshit he knew better than to get himself i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:22 PM
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Are women's lived experiences bullshit as well? My lived experience is that what you’re saying happens “repeatedly” doesn’t. And you told me to post evidence. So according to you, yes. Per Christmas song, you are aware that "baby it's cold outside" has been cancelled because it sounds too rapey to the left, right? Where is the outrage? It's in literally every feminist discussion about the topic that is flooding the left. There’s legitimate criticism of the themes in that song that have nothing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:09 PM
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Remember kids… cards for special occasions mean little when someone is around, but they mean a lot when someone is gone 🫠
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:46 PM
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What is your attitude to this situation and what actions will you take? This is entirely dependent on the specifics of the situation including the actual evidence and what I know about the people involved. Personally, I would teach my kids not to get involved with DV incidents and situations though. Especially if substances or weapons may be involved. The situations are too complicated to be handled by your average random stranger in their 20’s who just wants to be a hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:41 PM
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So you have no evidence and are just talking bullshit. Do you have anything to add other than "men's lived experiences is invalid because I don't agree with it"? 2 of the last 3 non-Christmas billboard top songs have men explicitly expressing preferences for certain women. Where is the outrage? How could they get away with this? How is music that is so ideologically opposed to the mainstream culture so popular? Why isn’t it a cultural moment warranting discussion? Because it’s normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:25 PM
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Now we can keep repeating this at each other forever, or do you have something else to add other than just a flat assertion with nothing to back it up? You are the one who made the original claim. How about you provide some evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:19 PM
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No, what's happened here is a classic form of minimization, taking a problem, and reducing it to being the fault of something unchangeable (morally). It's like Americans saying that gun violence is a "mental health problem". Like yeah, no shit mental health is a part of it, but when you reduce it to one cause, and one that is much harder to change, you are really just trying to say you don't want to do anything about it. Well, the majority of gun owners don’t commit gun violence. “Gun violence i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:16 PM
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When non-Americans try to play expert on American politics and culture based on what they see online I start thinking it was a mistake to have the whole world learn English.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:40 PM
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It is true but for some reason men having any kind of preferences for what kind of partner they'd like, are repeatedly told they're not entitled to women's bodies. They are not being repeatedly told this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:27 PM
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Men are not repeatedly told what you said they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:19 PM
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Well, part of it is also your post history. It has some information that you may not think is sensitive now, but you may find to be sensitive in the future. There are sites that archive reddit content and other content. I'm just saying you may not think it's a big deal now, but you may change your mind in the future, and by then it will be too late. You don't really lose anything by not posting your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:28 AM
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You might be confused about why one of your friends doesn't own a car or can't drive, has an extremely bad memory and bad breath, is irritable in places where substances are not allowed, and so on. This is when the behavior seems off but you can't really explain why; its a subconscious collection of things that are just extra quirky about this friend, and your brain has not finished identifying the pattern yet. Then the friend confesses to severe alcoholism and it all comes together, and you kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:44 AM
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If men are able to mask their abusive tendencies, what makes you think they can't also mask their desperation, negativity, or even misogyny? You have probably met people addicted to substances where you didn’t know they were addicted. You have also probably met obvious tweakers. This is like saying “well you didn’t know Nick in HR keeps a bottle under his desk, so how can you tell that guy at the bus stop with wide eyes who is talking to himself and scratching his arms is on drugs?” You know wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:26 AM
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She has bipolar disorder. If you know, you know…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:11 AM
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Selena is certified crazy iirc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:57 AM
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The problem is that once things are posted online, it is very difficult to get them off the internet, including your PII. It’s like getting a tattoo you can’t remove or cover up later. You can give context in a discussion without posting things like your face, name, etc, and that is the most wise option long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:45 AM
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Dear young people, Please consider using your phone’s dictation or voice note features instead of attaching your face to random hot takes online. Sincerely, Your future self who is hopefully older and wiser and probably doesn’t want to be associated with those hot takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 01:06 AM
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It is true but for some reason men having any kind of preferences for what kind of partner they'd like, are repeatedly told they're not entitled to women's bodies. This is a delusional statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 11:46 PM
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Listen, maybe he just looks like a really good cook. Too intimidating for the other ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 11:21 PM
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“Words have a definition” proceeds to just totally bullshit what those words mean
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 11:13 PM
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I don't put much stock in the OKcupid stuff, but doesn't that mean those women find men below average looking and message them anyway? That's not great news for the guy geting messaged. Why is that “not great news” and what exactly is the alternative if the man is not very attractive? Should only women who think he’s average or above message?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 11:06 PM
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Meet them around campus or in gen eds. Choose electives that have more female students. It’s really just not that fucking hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:44 PM
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A large overlap? Between people who watched a documentary about a random OF woman and posted about it on Twitter, and normal people? No. This is media literacy 101. Know the audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 05:02 PM
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Twitter is not representative of the majority the way you imply it is in this post. Otherwise you would meet A LOT more trans furry commies IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:26 AM
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People who debate on twitter or take twitter arguments seriously are probably the least intelligent human beings that humanity has to offer. Consistently they seem to have the least developed critical thinking skills of the “social media is real life” people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:41 PM
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It was women on Twitter, many had their own profile picture up. If I'm wrong and most women don't think the way the ones I seen online were, I'd be happy with that. You’re engaging with other people with zero common sense who think Twitter reactionaries represent the views of the majority of people. Use your critical thinking skills please.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:34 PM
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It was a trending matter, it was forced in front of me just like it has done for you now. You have a choice as to whether or not you spread information about her and thus her OF or just ignore it. You’re choosing to be a reactionary. It’s not the sex work itself I'm talking about, what I'm referring to is the approach most women take from the matter, which is that she is a victim and the men are perpetrators, not that most women are sex workers. “Women” or “Twitter accounts that might be female”…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:17 PM
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You’re misunderstanding what is going on. They are jealous that a dude that looks like that is going on a date when they’re not. They lash out. Any reason given for this behavior other than the truth is just a rationalization of their behavior. They don’t actually believe they have a pass. They are just looking for an excuse and using the first one that comes to mind. You’re essentially engaging in their bad faith argument here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 05:00 PM
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Literally who? I googled it. A documentary of a porn star. This is the yardstick to measure women? Chronically online discussions of porn stars. You realize onlyfans girls degrade themselves for the pleasure of men right? If you guys hate what she’s doing so much, then ignore her and stop giving her money. You’re giving her exactly what she wants - attention. A pay pig like any other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:54 PM
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Why is this a q4w? Issues like men’s mental health, suicide rates, societal pressure to suppress emotions Just go to a psychiatrist bro it’s not that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:47 PM
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I don’t have social media, but it depends. People in general treat you better when you look a certain way, no matter the context. Generally most people try to fit themselves somewhere between their personal ideal and the external ideal in order to express themselves while taking advantage of better treatment. If it was entirely external validation, then things like The Sims or dress-up games wouldn’t exist for girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 04:56 PM
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The survey presumes, like any stats analysis, that the folks answering the phone survey were being honest and to account for marginal error and biases, to give at minimum plus or minus 4 percentage points (or higher). So let's just say it was double that marginal error, which still puts nearly 50% of millennials that lived with both parents growing up Why make shit up when you can just look at different data? Lmao. Let me guess, the current population survey saying the same thing is somehow wron…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 07:25 AM
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Didn't you get the memo? There's an epidemic of single mothers around the world. These single mothers likely used the legal court system to restrict the fathers of these children from being an active part of their lives. In the US, about 62% of Millennials grew up with both parents (2010 data). For kids 0-17 in 2022, it’s 65% married, and 70% with two parents. As you can see from the graph this has been relatively stable, and single mothers living alone have actually gone down a bit. The numbers…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:51 AM
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Number 1 thing I can think of is their emotional dependence on their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:18 AM
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“What did you do to provoke him” usually applies to when it’s a family member who did it to her. And the reason is pretty simple: cognitive dissonance. Especially when it’s a father or step father. There’s an emotional incentive to deny reality combined with the mistaken pre-existing idea that people who commit CSA are pedophiles exclusively attracted to children. Some people behave rationally, some behave irrationally. That’s why not everybody should have kids…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:25 AM
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Tbh I think a lot of what people seek in a larger resolution related to picture quality is actually remedied by color and contrast quality of the monitor more than its resolution. I think people fixate on resolution because it’s more straightforward and quantifiable in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:15 AM
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Tbh I barely can either, especially on something like a 24”. The difference between 60 and 144hz on even a phone is night and day though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:08 AM
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I’m just not convinced RPers are some accepting, non-judgemental group that normal spaces aren’t. You can go on forums.red right now and see that’s not the case. The internet is a very judgmental place as a whole, and yet most feedback is very neutral even on controversial topics like dating. It’s like saying ED tumblr blogs were the only people accepting of anorexics or providing “safe & non-judgmental avenues/spaces for girls to genuinely express their frustrations with losing weight.” There w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 01:12 AM
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I think people in my age range and younger are generally dispossessed of the things which older generations were able to ground their self-esteem and sense of self in. Many are living with their parents, most are missing what used to be considered normal milestones, so many are under socialized (and the cost to engage socially has risen financially, making this even worse). They're launching late if they're launching at all and all around there's more consequences in life than benefits. People t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 10:14 AM
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I literally gave the andrew tate example because the problem is not gendered, nor is it limited to this topic. But the conversation always goes back to team sports and oppressor/victim dynamics with Gen Z. Just too deep in the reactionary economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 05:02 AM
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Well this is what I get when I search it. 3 positive posts and one neutral discussion about it from some NPC reading a reddit post. Most girls who are neutral or positive towards short guys aren't going to get short guy defense posts on their FYP to engage with. The girls who are negative towards them will get anti-short posts on theirs though, because rage drives engagement. This is just social media literacy. Like, critical thinking skills here: watchfulcoyote on tiktok makes thoughtful mascul…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:02 AM
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Rumination. Linked to depression btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:01 PM
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Okay. Go on tiktok and search "short guy." What are the first few videos you see about?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 09:47 AM
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Show us an example then
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:36 AM
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Have you considered that the "give random women mics and record them saying provocative things to upset men" is not the content on women's feeds? This content isn't aimed at women. It's aimed at men. And if a woman made something countering it, you would likely not see it because it's not provocative.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:44 AM
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Being born '95-'97 in the US feels like being born on the last helicopter out of Saigon. I interact with a lot of people ages 20-35 and there is just something about the people <27 right now that regularly leaves me wondering what happened. They're not that much younger than us, but the lens that they see the world through feels so different. For a chunk of them, anything that is not complete agreement with their perception of reality is interpreted by them as a personal attack by someone who ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:17 AM
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Today, a lot of men (thousands? tens of thousands?) typed something like "Why won't any woman date me?" or "Why am I still a virgin?" into Google. They will continue doing this on what ever search technology is available in the future, regardless of whether you or I think they should ask their friends this instead (supposing they have friends). We should have positive spaces for men to find in their search results. Places where they can ask these questions, find others struggling with the same t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:33 AM
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This. For some Gen Zers it’s like they literally don’t talk to people offline or something. “I want a safe space to talking about my feelings with other men” bro where are your friends? Your dad even?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 01:10 PM
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Does Gen Z not have friends? Every time I hear “we need more safe spaces to discuss this totally normal everyday experience” it perplexes me. Like you’re a guy. Don’t you have guy friends? Or maybe there are some uncles? Friend’s brothers? Maybe… your father. Like if I’m having dating issues, random forums on the internet aren’t exactly the first place I think of going. I feel like you guys are looking for the friend experience out of random internet strangers and then getting disappointed that …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:54 PM
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because I think that there is a level of narcissism and psychopathy when it comes to being a Red Piller in which they somehow can't put themselves in the shoes of being a woman and instead see themselves as victims. The way I see it, old school/real RP probably aligns more with agentic narcissism (which isn’t necessarily a bad thing on its own), and black pill probably aligns more with vulnerable narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:46 PM
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God that’s so funny. You just know Rollo is PISSED.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:32 PM
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Not everything on planet earth needs to fit into the triangle though. It is literally just our human tendency to want to apply intention and will where there isn’t any. Why is john having trouble getting an erection? Because the devil has possessed him and he has to do 10 hail marys to fix himself. Why is joe having trouble getting an erection? Because the emotional weight of the gynocentric society has made him impotent. It’s the same exact shit for half the people online who peddle whatever op…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:58 AM
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You are literally doing exactly the behavior I described. Go ahead and tell me where I said don’t complain. You are distorting what I actually said in order to put yourself in the victim role and me in the persecutor role. You people are just addicted to it. Like heroin. It’s a sickness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:49 AM
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Please tell me you are ESL or something because I did not make it specific to one ideology at all in my entire post and I swear to god if you're doing the thing I just talked about where you're molding what I said to make yourself the victim, I'm going to lose it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:28 AM
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Now for feminists, of course there is nothing wrong with all this, because they subscribe to the oppressor/victim framework in which members of a victim class are morally justified to engage in whatever shitty behavior they like towards members of the oppressor class. This is literally what your post is. You are all hopelessly addicted to the karpman drama triangle, you just disagree with who is the persecutor and who is the victim and insist on molding other people's behavior into the roles wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:17 AM
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I also agree that many men ignore women's brains' role in turning them on. A lot of dudes are just straight up bad at sexting and dirty talk, for example. A lot of guys here complain about women's erotica and the scenarios presented in them, but they don't actually bother to read the text and see the words and descriptions used to find out what women like to hear and the sensations that are described. Can you imagine how mind boggling it is as a woman to see how obsessed with sex men are and how…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:36 AM
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No notes tbh. Sometimes I wonder if the new wave of RP grifters give men bad advice in this regard on purpose to keep them chasing. You will find a lot of guys who for whatever reason just don't want to do the things you listed and would rather set themselves up to be helpless victims instead, which I'm sure doesn't help either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:27 AM
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Yeah, my boyfriend is also a golden retriever and he had some trouble in the past. There absolutely are some women who want a “dominant” man (often they are schmoozers themselves, that’s why. Same principle of two schmoozers can’t work together), but I think a lot of the problems come from the behavior being a little harder to distinguish from “orbiter” or “lazy” behavior early on in the filtering phase. “Where do you want to eat” can be interpreted about 10 different ways, but it’s most likely …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 01:05 AM
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I get that it feels weird because he's not being authentic. But how does that apply in the context of sex and relationships. TBH I usually avoid those men like the plague but it usually goes something like this: Man has low self-esteem Man wants a girlfriend, any girl will do. They’re choosing based on chromosomes not compatibility. He usually starts out trying to be an “orbiter” or a “simp.” As a woman, you can usually tell these men are this way because they will do the ass kissing/white knigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:42 AM
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Nope, boyfriend is though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:24 AM
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There are different vibes when it comes to people who want to please. Some people just genuinely find joy in it, like your grandma. You probably have warm attachment feelings related to that. Nobody would say grandma needs to be more confident and authentic, because she genuinely finds joy in doing it. And then there’s the guy at your work who is a schmooze and behaves submissively exclusively with the goal of making the boss like him. Some people will like it because it’s positive attention reg…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:14 AM
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Clearly you’re not in New York or New Jersey
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:55 PM
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That list is either going to be too long or too specific though. I wish people like OP who are clearly asking this question because they got burned by someone and are frustrated about it would just ask the correct group of people the correct question (ex. “Why do young women like my ex say they want to marry me and then leave anyway? Why did she tell me to expect something and then did something else?”)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:43 PM
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Appearance mostly. Doing the extras etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:36 PM
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In some things yes, in some things no. There’s a balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:31 PM
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Yeah but without at least including the basics of country/age/relationship status the answers aren’t that much more useful than what he could have gotten from his mom. It kind of sounds from the OP like his actual question is something more specific and perhaps related to something personal but instead he’s asking a question whose answer is basically completely useless without the context of who is giving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 09:59 PM
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I don’t understand the point of these questions. Women are different people who offer different things and expect different things. What you can expect depends on who you’re dating, not on what random women on the internet say.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:15 AM
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Abusers also will sabotage their partner’s employment, like refusing to get a car repaired that will result in their partner’s inability to reliably get to work, as well as going back on agreements to provide child care and/or other parenting obligations. Also from OP’s link. Clearly it’s reactive abuse to nag /s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:06 AM
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A lot of emotionally immature people seem to think that anything someone says or does that makes someone else feel bad about themselves is some targeted attack specifically to make that person feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 07:53 AM
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The only thing I admire about it is how it brainwashes people. idk man, I feel like it’s probably not that difficult. It’s not like a lot of those guys had bright futures ahead of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 07:32 AM
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What country are you in OP? Which are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 06:23 AM
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There was a time where children made out of wedlock were legally "bastards". You mean before DNA tests?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 06:20 AM
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You’re also there for emotional support, if she’s having a bad day. You must be a rock/shoulder to lean on so she feels better and that she can vent her frustrations to you. Now as far as yourself goes, you don’t get emotional support because you’re the man and nobody wants to here a man complain about his problems. "Compared to women, married men rely on their partners more for emotional and personal support. Eighty five percent of married men, compared to 72% of married women, report that thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 06:04 AM
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Just because you feel disappointment not having the exact flavor of social connection you want, that doesn’t make that specific flavor a need. If having kids was a genuine need, then we would all be popping them out at 18 instead of using birth control and condoms. It’s a desire, just like having a girlfriend and having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:15 AM
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It's because if she's dating him for his money, then presumably she is spending his money, thus making him less attractive to alternate partners because he has less money. If she's dating him for his appearance, it's not like he will get uglier because she's dating him. It's about sacrifices and investment. You're not "draining" his physical appearance or his attractiveness to alternative partners, and in some cases you're actually bolstering it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 12:46 AM
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<image> Among other surveys and studies showing a general trend of men and women being equally lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 12:16 AM
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Young men and women report similar feelings of loneliness and have similar numbers of friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:59 PM
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The metaphor implies they don’t have a choice and have to take what they can get. Which is not only untrue in the original metaphor, but also untrue for dating. It’s a lack of exercising personal agency, which is what makes people unsympathetic. If you work minimum wage your entire life, that is almost always due to personal choices. If you settle for someone who makes you unhappy, that is almost always due to personal choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:10 PM
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Except beggars can be choosers. A lot of homeless people actively choose to not use services or shelters. You're focusing on the fact that you need a job to survive because it's why you feel bad for the homeless and not these guys. We already know you lack empathy for them. Empathy and sympathy are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:55 PM
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Kinda funny, because the homeless actually do refuse services and staying in shelters all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:50 PM
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You can have human connection without a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:47 PM
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Educate middle schoolers about consent and boundaries. Have open conversations about controlling impulsive sexual urges and emotional regulation. Also drill the legal consequences of those behaviors the same way they try to persuade kids to not have unprotected sex with pregnancy and STDs. Prompt children to think about their actions and the potential effects on other people. If you’re a parent, then monitor your younger children when they’re with puberty-aged children, from the data particularl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 08:19 PM
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I would hope your aunt and grandma aren't attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:56 AM
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Boys (who made up 94% of the cases against juveniles in the report I linked. Not saying that's normally the proportion, but this data set is overwhelmingly male offenders.) are most likely to be assaulted ages 3-7, not 12-16. The age distribution of perpetration is pretty obviously caused by puberty over other factors. (first image from first report, second and third from this one:) <image> I think the correct conclusion is that active puberty absolutely does turn some kids into opportunistic an…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:28 AM
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Don't have to be strong or powerful to be drafted. Mostly just have to be a male that is the correct age range and not disabled.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 12:18 AM
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copy/pasting: I knew they made up a larger share, but if we've had data since the 90's that kids turn into little impulsive sexual psychopaths at puberty, why on earth were we not talking about that the way we did teen pregnancy and drug abuse? Why are there people in 2024 who think "teach kids not to rape" is a bad idea? I knew it wasn't just adults, but if I had known it was kids aged 12-16 to this degree, then I would have been a lot more skeptical of why culturally we seemed to avoid that fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 12:15 AM
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I knew they made up a larger share, but if we've had data since the 90's that kids turn into little impulsive sexual psychopaths at puberty, why on earth were we not talking about that the way we did teen pregnancy and drug abuse? Why are there people in 2024 who think "teach kids not to rape" is a bad idea? I knew it wasn't just adults, but if I had known it was kids aged 12-16 to this degree, then I would have been a lot more skeptical of why culturally we seemed to avoid that fact for so long…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 12:15 AM
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<image> Characteristics of offenders reported to law enforcement. That's crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 11:43 PM
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So then men are inherently valuable or
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 11:21 PM
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The steps in the original comment aren't elaborate at all. The fact you think they are is highly laughable. It’s the fact that he said the basics are too hard, he doesn’t care about a woman’s pleasure and they’re entitled toddlers for expecting orgasms, and then he’s complaining women don’t initiate sex or tell him what he can improve. It’s insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 11:14 PM
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I mean I didn't even bring up height, income, abs, social skills, etc. Now even those things aren't enough, now I have to give myself up entirely to her whims in the bedroom too or else I'm "lazy" and "undesirable". The standards just keep going up, up, and up with women in the West. 40% of men in the 25-29 age range are already married or cohabiting. The majority of men in that age range are able to have sex and relationships. I never hear about any of these horror stories or needy demands with…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 10:18 PM
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You women have insanely high standards in order to get off, not me. I don't need any partners of mine to check off a million guidelines in order for me to be attracted to them. Unironically telling on yourself here if you think those are insanely high standards. So what you're saying is that you're going to continue to stare blanky at us as "punishment" for being "undesirable" in bed? Not desiring someone who is bad in bed is not a “punishment.” It is the natural result of that person being unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 09:07 PM
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or keep badgering me to do the one thing I've said I hate. Ah yes. I forgot the thing they do where they play dumb to get women to ask for the basics (give her an orgasm, don’t do something painful or uncomfortable) so that they can then try to turn it into a transactional situation and get her to do things she doesn’t want to like anal or fetishes. Or they ask if there’s anything she’s wanted to try, they try it, then turn around and try to turn that into a transactional situation after the fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:58 PM
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Yes, as you can see “just tell me what you want” is often a manipulative trap because it sets the basics up as demands to which the man then tries to frame as unreasonable. The difference is you are genuinely eager to try and just want help with the occasional blind spot to make the experience better for her. It’s an expression of the effort you want to put in. Theirs is an expression of how little effort they want to put in and how entitled they think she is for having basic expectations of sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:47 PM
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I think you’re misunderstanding. Your idea is normal. But, most men who express frustration and say “just tell me what you want” or “just teach me” are the men I described where it is not coming from a place that genuinely cares about her pleasure for its own sake. Here’s an example from a man in this thread under the automod: Everything you just listed sounds fucking exhausting and I don't blame a lot of men for checking out completely. Who wants to deal with all of that after a potentially men…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:36 PM
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I’m not understanding what you’re confused about unless you just don’t like the idea of figuring it out on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:27 PM
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People “value” women as much as they want something from them. ie sex or status. How is being able to have sex with almost anyone mostly just by existing not an inherently valuable thing? If you could have any woman peg you and brag to her friends about it, would you consider this an “inherently valuable” trait? The vast majority of men who would show sexual interest in random women are just looking to get off themselves and raise their status and don’t give a fuck about her pleasure. Until men …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:21 PM
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Did you not read the entire paragraph explaining it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:07 PM
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Tell me, if a woman rode your cock, got herself off, squirted all over your shit, said "thanks", rolled over and went to bed, left you blueballed and told you to "finish yourself off cuz I had a hard day at work/school" - would you say she's "good in bed?" No, So you agree it makes someone a lousy sexual partner. You just then turn this judgement around on the other person as them being “entitled toddlers” because of the shame of being inadequate. Men would like it if women initiated more instea…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:06 PM
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Everything you just listed sounds fucking exhausting and I don't blame a lot of men for checking out completely. Who wants to deal with all of that after a potentially mentally demanding day at work/school/whatever? A whole goddamned checklist just for sex, Christ. Shit like this: * Bad/painful technique. Too rough, too timid, but above all unwilling to adapt. ”It has to juuuuust right, you know?" Men don't like to play mental 4D chess, just say what you mean and what you want like an adult and …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:50 PM
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The problem is that these men want to be given knowledge when what they really need is wisdom. Wisdom can come from experience, but more than that it comes from thinking and reflecting. Men spend a lot of time thinking and reflecting about what would feel good on their cock. They just don’t spend that time thinking or reflecting what would feel good for their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:39 PM
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Mindset. They consider sexual ability core to their identity but their egos are too fragile to admit they have anything to learn, so they come up with shit to believe that they are the man they think they are, it’s just the woman who is the problem. Such as: “Everyone is responsible for their own orgasm” (Then why have sex with someone else? Is this just mutual masturbation where you’re using a vagina instead of your hand?) “You have a hand” (That women can use without you. What are you here for…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:31 PM
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My point is guys never directly ask how to bang girls and then get mad the advice given isn’t about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:05 PM
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Shy is fine as long as he doesn’t have avoidant tendencies when there’s conflict. If you have those tendencies, then I recommend figuring out beforehand what you’ll do when you feel yourself shutting down in a conflict. >And if so, what advice would you give him? You’ll have more success with women who find shyness in men cute and endearing. The ones I know personally are either more dominant in relationships in general (but not necessarily dominant otherwise) or kinda uwu bubbly girls, often th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:27 AM
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“Dating advice” and: Let's say an evil wizard suddenly transforms a typical woman into a man and gives her one week to figure out how to get laid with a decent-looking woman (we'll say 6/10 or higher) in order to save her mother's life. Are two different things. Are you asking women how to bang a hot chick or are you asking them “what they like in a guy.” Because you will get two completely different answers, and I know you guys know this. Women's minds cannot even begin to comprehend the brutal…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:30 AM
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Thats the point I’m making. Women would still rather choose to be reincarnated into a beautiful woman, even if it means increased risk of stalking, groping, being roofied, or SA. Black women have a higher rate of experiencing those things than other races of women. Are black women the most beautiful women? Would most women want to be born black if they had the choice? Or are you perhaps oversimplifying the factors that impact likelihood of sexual assault for ideologically motivated reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:30 AM
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Disclaimer: I don’t hate men. But this is like asking men if they hate women, then why do they get a high-paying job or dress well. These things are social norms even outside of dating. If you’re asking “why do people follow social norms” then ask an adult you trust I guess. I originally wanted to get into the biology of it and how women are biologically supposed to be less attractive than men, and how we're actually supposed to be chasing the men instead of of vice versa but this question will …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:06 AM
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I think Pete is handsome, but I also think he gets a buff to attractiveness because he smiles a lot and seems more upbeat. If he had a more restrained expression like most men in hollywood, then I don't think he would be considered as attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:21 AM
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Meanwhile the general public lust over objectively frightening men like Pete Davidson, Robert Pattinson & Jeremy Allen White, There is something completely hilarious about someone saying any of those three men are objectively frightening. In what universe bro? Wait until you see what people on British TV look like if you think those three are nightmare fuel. and the fact that these men are completely lacking in charisma or personality discredits that followup argument Pete in particular has a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:16 AM
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I don't even grow hair on my ass???? Have you not hit puberty yet? The vast majority of men have hair on their ass and crack even if they have little to none in other places like their chest or face.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:17 PM
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I never mentioned pubic or ass hair? Well of course not, women don’t grow more than peach fuzz on their ass cheeks. I understand why someone wouldn't want to shave there as its dangerous. You think it’s dangerous to shave ass cheeks or the crack? (not around the asshole itself, but the actual meat of the ass with normal skin.) In what universe? Although I try to at least trim there Homie out here with ass sweat locked in his ass hair with god knows what else calling women who don’t shave their a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:10 PM
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Okay, what about their ass? You know, that place where men are the ones who grow more than peach fuzz? Are you lecturing men to shave the forest between their cheeks?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:01 PM
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Do you shave your ass hair? Ass sweat isn’t exactly the most hygienic thing I can think of, and basically all men have more than peach fuzz on their ass and crack.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:50 PM
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What about your ass and ball hair?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:40 PM
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PPD sub main page > community achievements > click the achievement > unpin I think this removes it if you want to
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:21 PM
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There’s a lot of material out there for coping with anxious attachment and learning more productive behaviors. Good luck on your journey 🫡
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:14 PM
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? He didn’t say she ghosted him, he said she drifted away. Presumably because he was too inhibited and passive and she took that as disinterest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:10 PM
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It’s women in the RP-defined “prime” that are into those guys. <30 women. Also, they are facially feminine, not just “smaller than Chris Hemsworth.” Compare his facial characteristics to those other men. He is much more masculine and a lot less elegant and refined.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:03 PM
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They had been spending a lot of time together and talking for a while... why would it be weird? He loved her and she definitely seemed to like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 05:24 AM
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Bring back recess (good for everyone, but boys especially need to run off the extra energy) Ditto for PE Idk where you live, but it never went away in most places. Also I’m not sure why you think boys need to run off the extra energy more than girls. Make it easier for people to come back to college (or other education) after working for a while. There are night classes and online programs for this purpose. A lot of workplaces offer college and professional development benefits. I'm not attached…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 11:01 PM
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The FACTS are that women overwhelmingly are sexually attracted to masculine men, and turned off by feminine behavior in men. Look at the men in kpop groups, c/kdrama romances, and the way a lot of asian sex workers aimed at women act and dress. They’re not exactly the most rugged or masculine men. Women do like femininity in men. Women are not “hard wired” against pretty boys lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:44 PM
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that didn't receive much attention or support from women growing up The fact I can’t tell if you’re talking about your mother or girls your own age… You can split income as business or personal and decide how you personally want to value your role as a husband or your role as a business owner. It's unlikely for child support or alimony to be taken from your business. In this way you can respect and protect your past while choosing your financial level of commitment in the present and future. Kne…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:33 PM
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? I answered your question
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:32 PM
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Go back to 2016 OKC, apply your preferences to the filters, then sort by match % and ignore every dude under like 90%. The swipe shit ruined everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:31 PM
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…this post is 5 months old homie Do you think it's ever the case that someone is loyal only as long as they don't believe they could do better? I mean that for any gender, not just women. Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:23 PM
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I have literally never had this fear in my life. The only time I can remember anybody ever implying I'm not feminine enough was a romanian guy in a group I was playing an fps with because I kept swearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:25 AM
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I’m very much the kind of person who has heard and listened to all the complaints of “we can’t read your mind, just tell us what you want.” So I very much became the kind of person to do just that! I’ll tell you where I want to eat. Birthday or Christmas coming up? I’ll send you my Amazon wishlist. Valentine’s Day? Let me tell you exactly my expectations (flowers, chocolate, a card, and spend time with me). If something is bothering me, you don’t even need to ask “what’s wrong” because I will te…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:10 AM
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Later in the relationship i cried in front of her about things that were going on between us and she gave me this contempt that was clearly the ick in real time. It's literally less risky for your relationship to be extremely violent than it is to be emotional cried because i felt bad that i kept getting angry w her for not wanting to go on dates because she was too anxious and insecure to go outside She wasn’t disgusted because you cried. She was disgusted because you were uncomfortable with he…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:20 PM
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This guy got 100% of his ideas about what gives women the ick from short form videos I guarantee.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 01:44 AM
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The people who can “mind read” don’t have to deal with dead bedrooms and the people who can’t “mind read” do. Go figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:36 PM
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If they can’t get interest when trying, then it’s because something about them is unappealing to women. Could be as simple as bad pictures on a dating app. There isn’t really one unifying “real reason.” I do think on dating apps about 70-80% of the profiles demonstrate that the man just doesn’t know what is appealing to women at all. It’s kind of like if 80% of women hadn’t discovered beauty routines and put Dworkin quotes on their profile. It leaves you asking yourself “who is this for? Does he…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:16 AM
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Significantly easier for women given women can get a dozen dates set up within a week, while men are lucky to get more than a few dates a month. It's easy to just cycle through people when one is in a privileged position. If this is a problem "most men and women" have, then it would be easier to change than cycle through people indefinitely whether that be a dozen dates a week or a few dates a month. If someone has trouble attracting high-quality interest from the opposite sex, then that person …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 02:56 AM
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Given nonverbal communication can be a lot more confusing, a lot less precise, and it's usually men who bear the brunt of all the consequences for failures in communication, I mean yes, but it's possible to use both, and to fall back on verbal communication when non-verbal communication fails or is imprecise. I think for a lot of people, nonverbal cues and body language are equally or more important to understanding the overall message, and for some people, easier to read. It doesn't make sense …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 02:12 AM
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It usually averages ~25% and has for like a decade at least. I haven't seen any evidence it's somehow harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 12:13 AM
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It's the fault of whoever is communicating poorly that they are communicating poorly. And how can you know if the best solution is to break up early on, if no effort has been made to see if it is a serious issue or something that could easily be fixed with a modicum of effort? If things are already breaking down early on, then the wisest option is to just leave before getting overly attached. If you are under 30, then it doesn't make sense to waste time on trying to work things out early on in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 12:09 AM
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In the US? I don't think it has ever even reached 40% let alone "the majority"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:25 PM
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And communication can become more effortless if some effort is done to iron out the issues, rather than just bailing at the first sign of the slightest issue. If someone isn't communicating the way you like them to before you even have sex, then it's better to just bail and find someone who is more compatible rather than risk what the OP did. Vetting for communication compatibility early on and leaving when incompatibility is detected is the best way to avoid long-term issues. I agree that peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:24 PM
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“Social adroitness” ehhh. That’s part of it. Social insight, reading nonverbal cues, and anticipating needs are pretty important to global functioning as social animals. Parenting, hunting, pastoral farming, sex, interpersonal conflict, negotiating, maintaining alliances, and many other things rely on being able to have the above social skills. Historically, many men who did not have the above social skills were either killed or kicked out of social groups because they impacted the survival of b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:00 PM
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it doesn't make logical sense to expect one's partner to perfectly and effortlessly match one's own communication style without ever making the slightest effort to meet them halfway. I think most people are willing to make “the slightest effort” in a committed relationship, but communication should be relatively effortless 90% of the time if two people are compatible. If it’s less than that, then both people should probably leave and either find someone more compatible or get more experience tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:32 PM
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Yes, I am asking women to read minds by, surprise surprise, talking to men with their words like reasonable adults, and asking if men have received and understood the message. Again, why do women have to ask men? Why is it not men’s responsibility to communicate this “by, surprise surprise, talking to women with their words like reasonable adults”? I mean if the listener wants to communicate as well, they ought to listen, but how exactly is someone supposed to communicate that they didn't get th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:29 PM
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You’re deliberately avoiding the point I am making. The majority of both sexes are capable of both communication styles, and which they use is about preference more than ability. It makes logical sense to find a different man who matches your preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:58 PM
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because the you can't tell if they didn't receive, didn't understand, or received and understood but ignored the message. Is this not essentially asking the communicator to “read minds” the way that you claim women want men to? Why is it not on the person receiving the message to communicate whether or not they got the message, understood it, and didn’t ignore it? It's been my experience that more often than not women assume the message has been received and understood, but that the man must be …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:12 PM
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I think it’s more than the top 10% of men who have social insight and can understand nonverbal communication. Most animal species and even babies are capable of communicating nonverbally and understanding nonverbal communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:07 PM
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Men, like women, are most likely going to prefer people who share their values. They may disagree on exactly how those values should be carried out though. Most people within a party or political label don’t even agree, so it’s not that far of a stretch in a lot of cases. For example, the RFK froot loop meme. I care about kids’ health, conservatives care about kids’ health, but when I point out the Canadian version is actually more harmful to developing children because it has more added sugar (…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:51 AM
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You’re late. The class already had this discussion in the replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:33 AM
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it's alien and incomprehensible to me that anyone's attitude is "well she rolls her eyes, doesn't say i love you and doesn't suck my dick BUT AT LEAST SHE WAS NEVER HOT FOR ANYONE ELSE". how can anyone expect others to sympathize with or understand this neurotic fear and attitude? A lot of these weird fixations you see from people online about being compared to exes are related to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_negative_evaluation Items: I worry about what other people will think of me e…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:27 AM
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No but apparenrly the sarcasm went over your head. Ooookay buddy. If someone is bad at communicating their needs and wants sexually, the vast majority of the time that someone is a woman, therefore the vast majority of people who run into tha issue of their partner being unable to communicate their sexual needs and wants, are going to be heterosexual men. And on the flipside of your claim, heterosexual men would be the majority of people who are bad at reading nonverbal social communication in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:03 AM
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First: Because it is not and has never been about changing what men want, and has always been about women largely being terrible at communicating their needs, preferences, and desires to men when it comes to sex. You said: So if women have issues with men, then men have to work on them and improve, but if men have issues with women, men just gotta man up and deal with it? And again, my idea of bending people into what I want is to be able to communicate their needs and wants like a reasonable ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:20 AM
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Maybe you should read some of the comments on that video to help you figure out what’s going on in that scene. Personally, I thought it was obvious but apparently some people need an explicit explanation...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 03:22 AM
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The majority of young men have had sex in the past year. That kind of implies they have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 03:11 AM
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Pretty much this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 03:06 AM
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…what exactly do you think is happening in this scene? What do you think is going through K’s head?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 02:48 AM
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And I never once brought up my personal problems, thats something you accused me of at every turn to ignore the point These are your opinions, not men collectively’s opinions. You can replace “you” with “a man” if you want, but the argument is exactly the same. I can't for the life of me see why you think that is a bad thing. I can’t for the life of me see why you think you are somehow above having to select an appropriate partner for yourself. Sorry, why men are above that expectation. (Even th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 02:25 AM
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And since when is asking that someone communicates like a reasonable adult is demanding to be catered to? When you say shit like: So if women have issues with men, then men have to work on them and improve, but if men have issues with women, men just gotta man up and deal with it? In response to people telling you that your personal problems dating are your personal responsibility to solve. You are expressing entitlement. And the rich man and the poor man both have the same right to walk away fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 10:57 PM
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Men and women both have equal rights to ask for things in a partner, but neither are entitled to having their preferences catered to unless the other person chooses to. You can frame this as men being victims or women being unreasonable, but men have the same right to walk away from a woman who doesn’t meet their preferences as women have to walk away from a man who doesn’t meet theirs. This is the reasonable response, and this is equality no matter how much it hurts your dating prospects. Peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 10:08 PM
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I'm not asking anyone to benefit me, I'm not asking you to break up with your boyfriend, I'm pointing out a real problem in society that affect tons of people, that could and should be easily be solved simply by having women communicate their needs and wants like reasonable adults. The problem is solved by people dating who they’re compatible with. Comparing your personal entitlement to other people bending themselves into what you want to structural inequality is laughable. That is literally wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 09:41 PM
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Your reply kind of reeks of "fuck you I got mine". My boyfriend and I are happy. I didn’t make him this way and he didn’t make me this way, we already were this way. I think it’s funny you characterize my behavior as selfish when it’s actually you who wants to be selfish. You are the one who wants catered to instead of having to change. Why should my boyfriend and I be deprived of each other just so some dude nobody wants and who I’m not compatible with “has a chance”? “Oh no his feelings!” What…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 09:19 PM
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What’s creepy is imagining a guy like you wide eyed face to face with her having to ask if she likes what you’re doing because you legitimately have no clue without words.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 09:08 PM
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Why would I change myself to sexually accommodate a random man when I could find someone else more sexually compatible? Either he has other qualities that would make it worth it in which case it’s not an issue, or the logical choice is to find someone more compatible and let him do the same. If you find your options are limited, then perhaps you should be the one to change if those limitations bother you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 08:57 PM
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If there are signs before having sex that you and someone else are sexually incompatible in a way that is a dealbreaker to you, then don’t fuck them. Move on. I don’t care what gender you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 08:51 PM
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My sex life says otherwise. Cry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 08:45 PM
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Hopefully when they check for themselves they actually read the papers unlike you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 08:05 PM
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Why would I link you papers you’re not going to read? Why would I waste my time like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 07:16 PM
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because like I said people who tell people "go do a web search" usually have not done the research themselves... You said this, proceeded to not actually READ the articles you linked before making claims about them, and still think I’m going to respond to your arguments about the papers??? Bro you did not even read them. You know how I know? It’s not just the above. You spent all that effort debunking psychoanalytic theory not realizing that nobody uses psychoanalytic theory in modern times exce…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 07:06 PM
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I didn’t know that. That is actually really funny. When will the progressive middle east invade the US and liberate our women from the shackles of oppression /s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 06:56 PM
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Here is a paper (not based on an online survery) Methods Study Design Data were gathered between February 2017 and March 2017 by means of an online questionnaire, querying (1) demographic variables, (2) 54 items about interest and practice experience with specific BDSM activities, (3) context of BDSM activities, (4) trauma history, and (5) attachment styles. For a detailed description of the survey's structure and content, see Holvoet et al. (2017). This survey was distributed among the general …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 06:23 PM
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In my experience whenever people say that when they haven't done much research. Pretty much every time it happens I find that they've overestimated the scientific research/consensus on the subject. Says he is willing to research, his only research being twitter meme “science” You can look at what the literature says or not. I’m not going to handhold you through it the same way I’m not going to handhold men through sex. If you don’t even know how online samples affect the quality of the research,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:41 PM
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Okay, can you find one credible source where the way you described it is how it works in a first world country? And he might well be a troll. If your “source” is susceptible to trolling and gets upvotes while trolling, is that a reliable source?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:37 PM
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What are you basing that assertion on? (Genuine question, I'm open to research.) Plug it into google scholar then. These are common knowledge. Also, do you believe that overrepresentation means they are the majority? Because if so, that's not what over representation means. They can be both overrepresented and the majority. What extreme sampling bias? If you seriously don’t understand the sampling differences between online samples and other samples, your opinion on any of this is just informed …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:03 PM
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The reason CSA victims, those with childhood trauma, and the socially maladapted are overrepresented in the kink community is the same reason they’re overrepresented as sexual offenders. And these are the same reasons people do not care about whether or not you got consent to hit your partner. I know who Aella is and I really don’t give a shit about online survey “science” that has such extreme sampling bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 04:49 PM
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Do you think every woman who was/is turned on by 50 Shades of Grey is non-neuroptypical and has childhood or sexual trauma? I would say the majority do. You certainly fit the criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 04:22 PM
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No, I don’t like being hurt during sex or inflicting pain on others because I am neurotypical, socially well adjusted, and don’t have childhood or sexual trauma. Most people are apprehensive about hurting people in general, but especially people they’re in a relationship with. For obvious reasons. “But women like it!” is creep logic. Pure and simple. As much as men want to paint women as the ones who can’t own their own desires, it’s patently obvious why someone who gets off on hurting other peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 04:13 PM
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If you need to inflict pain or have pain inflicted on you during sex, then you are not normal and probably not mentally or socially healthy. A lot of women want to avoid men like that, and that is one of the answers to OP’s question. Glad I could clear that up for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 04:02 PM
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Again , some women like to be hurt (hair pulling, spanking and choking). Are you saying the women shouldn't want that? Why do you not care about their enjoyment during sex? I’m saying that regardless of the circumstances it is unwise to hurt people the first time you have sex with them. This is common fucking sense. If you need to be explicitly told whether or not you should punch a girl the first time you meet her, then you are EXACTLY the type of man this standard is meant to filter out. Why a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:38 PM
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You probably shouldn’t do things that hurt the other person on the first sexual encounter. Me having to explicitly state that for you is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:04 PM
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many of them seem to get put off by the prospect of discussing sexual preferences or boundaries before having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:49 PM
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Fat girls are getting more play than the reverse so you tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:35 PM
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Normal people aren’t doing BDSM on the first sexual encounter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:35 PM
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It’s a completely valid question. Your paranoia is your own problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:34 PM
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Not live in a politically and socially unstable latin American country for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 10:47 AM
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Okay, tell me what OP did that hurt then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 10:44 AM
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Yes, explicit discussion is exactly what someone autistic would need in order to successfully have sex and "mind reading" is exactly how they describe trying to read nonverbal social cues and being expected to have social insight. If not wanting to deal with someone at a lower level of social development is "ableist" then I am "ableist." Cry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 10:05 AM
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Grow up. I assure you that reading social cues and anticipating needs that are not directly verbally expressed are a higher level of normal social development, not lower. That's why autistics struggle. Adults don't usually need to play doctor with each other and put explicit labels on everything to have sex unless they're socially stunted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 09:59 AM
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Anticipating other people's needs and desires is normal human social behavior. If you don't think it is, then don't have children because I promise you a baby is not going to be able to tell you verbally what it needs or wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 09:32 AM
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Diagnoses certainly haven't gotten more scientific. Today, if you show up at the ER for psychosis, they are going to test you for drugs, vitamin deficiencies, infections, and various other niche conditions that can cause psychosis. They're going to do a family and patient history. They will probably even do an MRI/CT on someone to make sure it's not anything physical in the brain. Based on what someone has, there is an established way to treat them that contains best practices that are the resul…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 09:30 AM
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You're not OP. I didn't ask you, please manage your reactive insecurities in the meantime.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 09:10 AM
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Creating a safe environment where you both can express your needs just takes your relationship to the next level. I find this funny considering you're a poly guy. What's the next level to you? Primary partner? But nonverbal cues just don’t tell anything about wishes, dreams and desires. You find out these things naturally by getting to know someone. It's not something you need to drill them about before having sex like the OP seems to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 09:08 AM
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You probably aren’t a good partner though. My boyfriend and everyone in his life sure seems to think I am. He’s moving in with me in a couple weeks and tells me he can’t wait. Turns out that people who can read body language, respond to nonverbal social cues appropriately, and don’t need handheld through sexual exploration make pretty good partners. If you never ask your partner about their needs and wants, you just show that you don’t really care. If you never tell them what you want or need, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 07:40 AM
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Men are sick and tired of being told we have to read minds in order to be good partners I can "read minds" in order to be a good partner just fine. I don't think it's insane to expect men to be able to do the same thing that I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 06:45 AM
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When you hookup with someone, do you usually find that telling them how your penis works is a requirement for orgasm? Because none of the men I’ve ever been with have had to tell me anything to expect good sex where I’m not behaving inappropriately. I’ve already had an experience of a woman who pretended to enjoy it then told me after that she found it painful but didn’t want to say anything so now I’m paranoid about doing that again What were you doing to her and what was her body language like…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 06:07 AM
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Did men get uglier? If so how? Fatter and sedentary/out of shape. Worse style. Men were more attractive 30-60 years ago than they are now in most respects besides things like teeth and skin quality or birth defects.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:51 AM
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If you notice, a lot of people who truly believe there will be incel uprisings either currently live in or are originally from countries that are politically unstable or extremely corrupt. “People in latin America will protest and riot” just doesn’t have the same zing to it as “incels will overthrow the American government” though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:03 AM
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The thing is, if men are left to their own devices and the situation gets bad enough, a “market correction” will naturally occur, it won’t be pleasant, but it will. The problem is that such a rapture between the genders is undesirable So basically forcing women to be with those men anyway. The thing OP insists isn’t part of the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 04:52 AM
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This guy was not a patient and says literally nothing about the process of being involuntarily committed. Again, one source that backs up your claims about how that process works. Literally just one. Why do you feel qualified to speak on the subject if this is so difficult for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:26 AM
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I think you're confusing the way men view other men who work to please women with how women view those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:20 AM
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People constantly decry the lack of mental institutions and related facilities we have now due to all the mentally ill we have that are homeless, but there was just so much abuse and mistreatment I've seen whenever I look those places up. No shit, they didn't have any treatments for people with severe mental illness back then. There were no antipsychotics until the 1950's. People with lifelong psychosis were finally able to get better and function on their own with new innovation. There was a ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:18 AM
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One. Single. Credible. Source. That. Is. Not. A. Reddit. Or. A. Social. Media. Post.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:18 AM
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One single source, baby. Come on. ONE credible source.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:05 AM
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I do find it kinda funny when the arguments are reduced to "not being able to put my mouth on the genitals (of my preferred gender only) for cash due to a lack of demand is oppression of my gender." Some people think "oppression" and "privilege" means "anything someone else has that I don't have and am jealous of."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:05 AM
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Doctors in psych wards are prescribing drugs to the same patients they are controlling. They have the ability to drug and declare incapable (through diagnosis) people under their custody. That is not how that works. The doctor who diagnoses and prescribes drugs can't be the same person who has custody of the patient. This is not how this works either. You literally have zero clue how any of the involuntary psychiatric treatment or guardianship processes work. Provide one single source for your i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:57 AM
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Ok, the doctors hold all the power, in plural. The doctors who are all on the same team and have the same supremacist and ableist ideology towards the recluse. What on god's green earth are you talking about? Did you even read what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:48 AM
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Am I crazy or is this just repackaging what JP said but adding a cowboy hat and cigar
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:42 AM
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HOT TAKE: one big reason women like "bad boys" is bc they like being able to feel like they are naturally the morally superior one in the relationship. they think they're a piece of shit, and they want someone worse than them so they don't have to feel bad about themselves. they want to be "the responsible, morally upright, normal one", and NOT have the man be able to have the moral high ground. Partially yeah, but a lot of it is tied to sexuality. I think a lot of men date mentally ill women fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:39 AM
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I believe there is no way to win with these women and the only right thing to do is to move countries Which country?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:35 AM
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It’s as if there is an endless stream of guys to choose from but it’s not mathing because the human population is basically 50:50. It gives me a headache just trying to comprehend how it’s possible Guys cheating, guys dating again after divorce while their wives focus on their children, the fact that there are more men than women in most age groups under 30 because more male babies are born than female. In the US, the ratio on dating apps are also skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:33 AM
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That doesn’t make any sense to me. The man who works hard to make his woman happy is shown off, not looked down on as a “simp.” A simp is somebody who provides for a girl he’s not even going on dates with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:23 AM
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Even if they need a court order to lock you in, once you are in, the doctor holds all the power. This is literally false. The ER doctors petitioning the court or issuing medical certificates to the court usually aren’t even the doctors that administer treatment during inpatient. All of this stuff is reviewed by courts, multiple doctors, and in the case of involuntary commitment often a hospital ethics board as well. The treatment plan is not decided by one person or monitored by one person. Jesu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:14 AM
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Bro has no clue what his argument or position is. All he knows is he doesn’t like the idea of women being called oppressed and he doesn’t like the idea of mental hospitals (despite having no idea how any of the processes or medications work.) Sometimes I really just wanna have a word with whoever raised these young 20’s people you see online.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:47 AM
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I already said suicidal people are the only people who are oppressed. But the only way they can be involuntarily committed to a mental hospital beyond being held in the ER for a day or two is through the court system. It involves doctors, judges, and social workers or law enforcement officers or other witnesses. Your idea that the doctor holds all the power is patently false and ignorant. You simply have no idea how the system actually functions because all you know about it is from doomscrollin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:40 AM
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Yes, a medical professional is required in order to make a medical diagnosis and prescribe medication to anyone. Duh? Do you have a point? My half sister is dead because she refused medication and I really don’t care what my mom thinks because it’s the right place for her, same as a dementia patient. When she doesn’t think trump is communicating to her individually with covert messages in his fast food pictures on Twitter, then I will give a shit about her opinion on any facet of reality. Still …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:34 AM
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I didn’t ask about suicidal people. I asked about psychotic people. People who are a danger to others have the right to refuse medical treatment unless they are incapable of making their own decisions. They may not be able to refuse the psychiatric hold itself, but they can refuse psychiatric drugs. For homeless people: Give them a home. Oh boy, you’re one of those. Once you have your own home and see how much actual work it is, you will understand why all the crackhouses in Detroit look like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:17 AM
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So-called “free thinkers” the second I’m naked in the middle of the street screaming at people: tranquilize him before he breaks the chains of oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:08 AM
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Can parents just drug children with whatever drug they want? Parents can give their kid whatever medication their doctor legally prescribes, yes. Duh? Can parents decide that children are still incapable after 18? Parents can go through the court system and get legal guardianship if their child is mentally incapable of making their own decisions, yes. Can parents drug a 17 year old against his will, fry his brain, and then claim he is incapable when he turns 18 because they fried his brain? What…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:03 AM
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It happened 60-70 years ago. Do you believe that mental health treatment and diagnosis for any ailment in 1950 and 2024 are the same? This is unironically like saying that because some older vaccines or medications in the past have caused severe side effects, then we shouldn’t use any vaccine or medication now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 11:49 PM
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People have the right to be psychotic without treatment by your definition. What exactly are people supposed to do that “liberates” them if not treatment? Tell them the voices are real? #Normalize accusing your coworkers of poisoning you? Same with the drug addicted homeless. They can stop drugs at any time and making them stop would be oppression by your definition. What does “liberation” look like to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 11:43 PM
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Lol, if you really think middle class women have It worse than homeless people, it's pointless to debate with you. I’m glad you see now why the standards you gave for oppression are silly and make no logical sense. Because by your definition middle class women would be more oppressed. If they are capable of saying no, they are capable of making a decision. Children are capable of saying no. If I ask my child if they want to go to school and they say “no” am I oppressing them? Or do we generally …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 11:35 PM
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But also we need more safeguards to protect vulnerable people from abuses of the system. Once you’re deemed “crazy” by the system, it’s really easy for nobody to take you seriously ever again. For serious mental illness and things like legal guardianship, there’s a pretty high bar to begin with. The people I have personally known who were psychotic who worried about this never got better with time, only worse. There are lots of families who try to get guardianship or help for their family member…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 11:27 PM
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And now instead of having a safe environment to get treatment, we let schizophrenics roam the streets and give themselves more and more brain damage with untreated episodes and drug use. If it’s inhumane to let a dementia patient do that, then it’s inhumane to let a psychotic person do it because neither of them have the mental capacity to make their own decisions most of the time. There’s a shortage of psychiatric beds in most states for short-term, long-term, and pediatric patients all because…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 11:05 PM
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Plus anything they would qualify for if they’re legally considered disabled (as is usually the case with serious mental illness).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 10:59 PM
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A small minority of politicians talk about their very real and serious problems. A big majority of politicians pander to women about first world problems or nothing-burgers. You have way more legal rights to special treatment as someone mentally ill than someone female. Your boss doesn’t have to accommodate pregnancy, but they do have to accommodate mental illness. Homeless people have more access to government funds and programs than your average middle class woman. Most people who are chronica…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 10:56 PM
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Yeah pretty much. Even talk therapy can be directly harmful for certain anxiety disorders - OCD reassurance-seeking compulsions come to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 10:40 PM
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When a social group is oppressed, nobody cares. If corporations, governments, lobbies, and elites are constantly pandering to women, constantly giving speeches on how tough they have It, constantly giving them special treatment, then women are not oppressed. …by this definition, a lot of women in the Middle East aren’t oppressed either then. And also: You know who is truly oppressed? Homeless people. People caged in psychiatric hospitals, drugged against their will. Both these groups are 90% plu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 10:23 PM
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You can be both attractive and a provider though. Those aren’t mutually exclusive. If you’re 95% provider then the problem isn’t that you’re a provider. The problem is you’re not very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 10:09 PM
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As in men who are attractive don’t provide or something about providing makes men inherently unattractive? Because neither of those make much sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 10:05 PM
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Dating to prove your masculinity and status vs dating for an emotional or long-term connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 10:01 PM
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If you’re unattractive to her, maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 09:54 PM
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I find it interesting the provider role and male sexuality are presented as mutually exclusive here. If you’re attractive to her and a “provider” of her pleasure in the bedroom, you’ll be a sex object all right.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 09:13 PM
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No I don’t think it’s wrong. Families cost money.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:51 PM
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I literally already did. If a man doesn’t make more than me, then I’m actually dating down. Income on a percentile basis is higher for men than women. A man at the same percentile as a woman makes more. I’m not interested in dating down.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:50 PM
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No men don’t make more income than women, even on average. I don’t know where you’re getting that. You can’t be serious. Then you’re ignorant. Google it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:46 PM
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So you’ve wanted a man who makes a superior income to you? Men make more income than women. This is like saying you want a man taller than you. It’s not a high bar. What does he do for a living? I don’t think I want to put that much information on the internet, but it’s in the logistics/supply chain sector.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:44 PM
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Enough to afford private school for kids by myself? Nah. My dad made enough to pay for it by himself though. And the guy I’m with now meets the qualifications.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:40 PM
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Quite a bit. Minimum situation? If I don’t think we could afford private school for our kids when we have them, that’s a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:28 PM
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Yeah. I care much more about the style, craftsmanship, and durability than price. Spending more than you need to on an identical item for the “brand” is just saying you enjoy funding the marketing department.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:09 AM
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Only if it was ugly or low quality to find out if he got scammed...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:04 AM
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Which is fair, but there's gotta be some kind of reasonable compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:37 AM
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True!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:25 AM
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They have a few groups. This is the last major thing I can think of that happened with them in the US though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:24 AM
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If I need to know about Japanese manufacturing and politics, I'll call you first bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:15 AM
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You're an out of touch American, as evidenced by the fact you seem to have no idea about how Trump has interacted with voters who have manufacturing jobs in the rust belt swing states for eight years at this point. Seriously, I knew you weren't in the country before I even checked.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:07 AM
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You seem like you have a lot of anger and resentment, but no productive way to express it. Now you think I'm not American (US citizen since birth and registered voter since 2004), and I don't understand why you think repeating that is some slam dunk against me. https://preview.redd.it/1bgos200qk3e1.png?width=770&format=png&auto=webp&s=99b5ea4da61e8aa1bc769d44c9f7e90e70eb3446 You're bad faith. When you come back to the US I will take your opinion seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:55 AM
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So no, you're not in the US. But have opinions on US politics. Of course. You do realize that we're at least decades from many of these jobs being automated, right? Jobs in coal mining, sanitation, fishing, logging, and so on weren't going to miraculously disappear if Harris became president. In addition, the men who have worked exclusively at such jobs for decades couldn't just up and start working in an office. https://preview.redd.it/gq9h8hn6mk3e1.png?width=1240&format=png&auto=webp&s=598ada0…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:36 AM
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The people MRAs claim are oppressed actively want to stay in their jobs at the expense of the economy and productivity increases. How is this confusing to you? Are you not in the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:25 AM
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Yes, manufacturing jobs are mostly done by men with a high school education or less. Duh?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:20 AM
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A lot of men without education? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:17 AM
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I think this is pretty obviously a projection of the madonna/whore complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:50 AM
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MRAs: "men are victims because they work in jobs that have high rates of injury and death" Men in those jobs: "tank the american economy with protectionist tariffs and ban automation so that I don't have to work a desk job like my wife."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:41 AM
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As a proposed solution, he asks you to stuff a fleshlight in your vagina during PIV sex, which is tight enough to actually satisfy him. Have you seen a fleshlight or a vagina? Guessing not. No way that is going to fit in a normal vagina. I would probably find someone else right off the bat if I know there won’t be PIV sex unless they were really special.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 11:23 PM
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The kid is 15. No, I don’t think most 15 year olds understand how to navigate dynamics of adult marriages. The fact you think the kid individually is more responsible for his ideas than his parents and the world around him is nutty to me. Where exactly would he form his opinion from otherwise? Life experience??? I’m sure this kid can reflect from his own divorce and relationships and apply that wisdom here… Jesus. Talking to kids like they’re adults is part of the reason Gen Z has a learned help…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 11:01 PM
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He’s mad at my SO now because he stuck up for me this past weekend. My son was giving me shit once again and I excused myself to cry in private. My SO saw and he told my son that he was being unfair to me and that if he wants to direct his anger at anyone, he should direct it at his father who abused me and put me in the position where I had to leave. Honestly I can understand your son being frustrated about this. Your SO isn’t this kid’s father or mother, of course he isn’t going to respect his…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 10:41 PM
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Therapy tends to mentally fuck up men even more and push us even deeper into rage and insanity. I am speaking from experience. It can go either way tbh. An ex of mine was lying to his therapist because he was seeking validation from her, so he ended up getting more entrenched in his bad behavior rather than fixing it. My current boyfriend has made a lot of progress in therapy though because he is both honest and focused on problem-solving. If I had to guess, some of the difference may also be th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 10:32 PM
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Why is rejection from a short interaction so heart breaking? You gained nothing and at worst lost some time. It’s not that deep. Ego. Whole reason a lot of them want to date in the first place - they tie their worth to how women perceive them romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 10:10 PM
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If people are sexualizing breasts with a baby attached to them, then that’s pretty weird imo. I don’t really care about the right to have your full tits out in public beyond breast feeding though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:47 PM
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Have you seen bladerunner 2049? The Protagonist's 'girlfriend,' is just a holo program, not a real person. But she holds him together against his loneliness. This Bladerunner 2049? Have you actually seen the movie???
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 03:15 AM
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I’ve read some really disturbing post histories of people who post here…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 11:26 PM
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That’s kind of a weird reply on her end… I would have just said “I am. I’m getting married soon.” And left it at that. Any dude from the past who starts a text with “Hii” does not have good intentions btw…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 10:57 PM
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It’s hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:16 PM
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Assuming you are in the average or one standard deviation from it, you will still have to settle, since top men at this point are likely to have found the very attractive 9/10 /10 and have already settled. If your definition is “settling” is “not being with whichever billionaire is the hottest” then yes everyone settles. Most people’s definition of settling is lowering their standards or not being as attracted to the person they’re with compared to who they really want. The way I and a lot of ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 08:37 PM
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Women eventually have to settle, as do men. The dating experience for most women who aren’t unattractive isn’t eventually “settling.” It’s weeding out and dumping men until you find the one that’s right for you. Being alone is preferable to being with a man you don’t like to a lot of women, including myself. I’m 28 and haven’t “settled.” I am more attracted to the man I’m with now than any other man I’ve been with because he meets my standards. we live in a monogamous society that pairs people 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 06:27 PM
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It’s not that he would be unattractive to you and couldn't get with you It is that, though. It’s an unattractive trait to women. Whether you want that woman or not is irrelevant to whether or not she’s put off. A lot of women feel that way about porn and make it a dealbreaker even though those men still want to have sex with real women. Honestly it sounds to me like the fantasy of the AI girlfriend isn’t about having your emotional needs met by technology as much as it is a fantasy of real women…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 05:59 PM
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I think you sound pretty naïve, and if I had to guess, you’re <25 and haven’t been in a relationship if you formed an opinion like this. There are already a bunch of AI/VR “girlfriends” out there. For both men and women. Has VR porn lessened demand for sex? Not that I can tell. I find your assumption that only men would be satisfied by some AI fantasy girlfriend hilarious. I hang out with nerdy girls and you have no idea dude. Girls simp for fictional characters all the time. Type in any male ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 05:40 PM
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I’m moody and impulsive and emotional Is why they never give you direct feedback, even when you ask them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 05:02 AM
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I’m not very knowledgeable about parenting, but isn't it like 5 years before kids start school anyway? Roughly how much money do you think this costs the family short and long-term?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:50 AM
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Have you tried asking her why she thinks that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:58 PM
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Nah I did that the last time it happened when I was 14. It went back in as I fell this time so I didn’t really think the whole hospital/mri/leg immobilizer for 6 weeks thing was necessary this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:07 PM
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You leave my yaoi manga out of this, mister
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 09:36 AM
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“Why hasn’t this style, which could prioritize female fantasies and emotional perspectives, gained more prominence in this wave of female sexual empowerment and growing female audiences?” “It’s easier just to walk away than to weed through miserable videos in search of something which isn’t sad or disturbing.” “So are you just a swerf?” This was never about “prioritizing female emotional perspectives” at all, huh? If you want FPOV porn that caters to your own personal preferences as a man, then …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 08:51 AM
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I'm aware it exists and i do watch it Well this explains why you’re ignoring the vast amounts of written and drawn porn which is explicitly FPOV in favor of video porn. It’s not about women’s desires at all. It’s about yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 08:45 AM
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Birth rates per 1000: Afghanistan: 34.2 Saudi Arabia: 13.6 United States: 12.2
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 08:27 AM
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Unless he’s being gross she should probably chill out. I was next to a guy with Tourette's on an international flight and he chilled out once the plane was stable in the air. Some people are just anxious flying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 07:54 AM
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Tbh I don’t think I’ve ever had a bad date. I did dislocate my knee like 30 minutes before the first time I met up with my now-boyfriend though. Couldn’t even cry because I had already done my makeup. He spent that whole night in bed with me waking up panicked every time I would move a muscle to ask if I was okay lol. He’s so cute…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:34 AM
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Funnily enough, I got a guy in one of my old friend groups a hot pink jock strap for secret santa as a gag gift since that was supposed to be the theme. I just thought it would be funny for his twinky ass to open that in front of all his bros…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:14 AM
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The discussion around these issues is incredibly imbalanced, with the vast majority of public society utterly rejecting men's needs, which results in tiny communities of men getting together and talking about rejecting women's needs. Is rejecting women’s needs for attraction going anywhere? Are women finally caving to what these men want and giving up their own demands or are women just ignoring these guys’ existence romantically and sexually? Did Stacy come crawling back after seeing how unreas…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:40 AM
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I'm annoyed that I'm on a 10x better trajectory than those women and I still have the self-awareness to realize I'm a mediocre loser, while those women who are literal bums in comparison to even me act like they're god's gift to earth (and society encourages them for it). This is unironically psychotic and delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 02:43 AM
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You can always move to a muslim majority country instead of a western one if it bothers you that much. According to you they’re on the up and up while the west is in decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 02:20 AM
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It’s like accomplishment anorexia.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 02:06 AM
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I'm making the point that if even a mediocre loser like me can do these things, then no they aren't impressive at all, and people with lesser accomplishments shouldn't feel good about them. What people value in themselves is not actually required to be approved of by you or surpass your ability. They don’t need your permission to like themselves. Hope this helps!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 01:59 AM
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I am saying that conflicts are easiest way to create emotions in a romantic relationship. The only kind of person I can imagine saying this unironically is the type whose most fond memories as a child were their parents taking them out for ice cream as an indirect apology for beating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 01:52 AM
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Go uncover my birds. Laughing means they’ll hear I’m awake and start screaming for breakfast and their morning attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 01:38 AM
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I had never heard of “coconut girl” before and was thinking something very different based on what my Hispanic boyfriend told me he was called in school 💀 apparently it is just island girl vibes…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 11:57 PM
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Mark Corrigan is my internal voice for like 70% of PPD posts I read. I love David Mitchell.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 11:52 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3i0vHtZ5_z0&t=60s Same energy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 11:45 PM
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Hilarious, the guy malding and saying “hold women accountable” deletes all his comments after he is proven wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 10:30 PM
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Go ahead and quote where it says 99% of murders of children under 1 year are women because I don’t see it. Go ahead and back either of these claims up too or I am assuming you admit that they are false: And the bulk of very young child murders? And on par with men for children overall?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 07:32 PM
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Day of birth homicide and infanticide overall as well as murder of young children overall are two different things. You’re making a bunch of false claims. Men kill the majority of small children under 5. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 07:20 PM
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What about the stat that women commit 99% of infanticide? And the bulk of very young child murders? And on par with men for children overall? Gonna need a source for that one chief.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 07:15 PM
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Now, expecting men to have to try in order to raise their social status and feelings of self-worth with casual sex is oppression. It’s like wanting to wear Gucci for the label and then getting mad it’s expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 06:16 PM
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Why do you “Alphas(tm)” care about losers who can’t get laid. All the RP flairs spent a lot of time on this? I wonder why…? RP was in decline until loser Gen Z men with victim complexes and unlimited screen time found it. Gen X and Millennial men mainly used it as a dating strategy guide, but most Gen Z RP men seem to have no desire for self-actualization like the men before them did. They see personal self-actualization as something that other people are supposed to bestow upon them, so they st…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 06:03 PM
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I could ask the same of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 04:27 PM
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He probably just pops a honey pack and then lies on his back while she rides him like a bull. The way god intended.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 02:09 AM
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bouncy castle!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 02:05 AM
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legitimately how do they have sex with him on top in any capacity without her being crushed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 02:00 AM
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"Nononono, you're not actually miserable around me. You've just convinced yourself that you're miserable around me so now, whenever I'm around you, you're miserable." Literally that was his argument. He just kept trying to debatebro gaslight me into giving him another chance and going on a date with him to "start over." I would have blocked him but I couldn't at the time due to our lives still being intertwined for a while after the breakup. The day I was finally able to block him was such a rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:48 PM
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The men get comfy in a relationship and stop trying I don't even think it's necessarily this. I think most can just only sustain a façade for so long. They start failing to maintain it and then fall apart at the seams because not only are they not the guy you liked, but they know you've seen who they really are and will reject that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:42 PM
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I was 15 when I got with guy #1, didn't outgrow him until 19. 19 when I got with guy #2, and he didn't do any of that until a year in when I was getting ready to go to college which according to him is what sparked everything on his end. Guy #3 was when I was 25, I was getting back into the swing of dating again after my dad passed and didn't aim too high since it wasn't that serious and I didn't really intend for it to be long-term. It was just to shake the rust off. Him and his family sure tri…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:38 PM
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It was impossible to resolve any issue because not only did he refuse to address his behaviour, but also there was no real issue at all, I was making it up, and btw, last Tuesday I had done something that really hurt his feelings and now we should talk about it and I should apologize for being such an awful girlfriend. Actually, now is a really bad time to talk about it because you're overwhelming me. But also, if you try to bring it up during a calm time when we're both in a good mood, you're s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:56 PM
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Well yeah, it's unlikely to be pushed to a guy's feed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:25 PM
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Somehow he got married and I feel so sorry for his wife. Maybe she's codependent and happy. Right? Right...?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:19 PM
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People should have studied it 10 years ago when it wasnt a popular major It was still pretty popular 10 years ago. Lots of unis had full classes or waitlists.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 04:48 PM
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it's ...thirst trapping.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 04:42 PM
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I felt sorry for him but it got to be a lot. Pretty much. He would say him and his family had ADHD which I believe, but in that case get treated for it instead of being a fuckup tornado wrecking everything in your path.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 04:24 PM
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The point of the post is not to ask for unsolicited dating advice, it's just to show that men have to deal with disloyal and avoidant women too. This stereotype that men only want sex and women want love is bullshit. This much is true, but I'm not sure how that means women in general have the upper hand. Unless you just mean that avoidants do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 04:16 PM
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Is this post about women or about you....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 04:12 PM
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Did he ruin birthdays and your happy conversations with friends and family, too? Get pissed off if you were in a particularly good mood and ruin it for you? The 3 paragraphs are 3 different dudes. The fuckup was a fuckup with his own stuff too. He had trouble taking criticism sometimes, but nothing like the guy in the 2nd paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 04:01 PM
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Some reasons: One, I was going through a lot at the time, and me figuring all that out on my own while he was asking me how to use a washing machine made me lose attraction because it highlighted the difference between us maturity-wise. Another, the pattern was basically me bringing up relationship problems super gently and him throwing a denial-fueled hissy fit because any criticism was intolerable to him. Nothing ever got resolved because he couldn’t handle feedback about his behavior. So I lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:33 PM
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The honeymoon phase IS the relationship. Once that ends, you just have two people who get on relatively well, but don't have the same level of attraction to one another as before and ultimately, the relationship is headed south hereon in. I’m going to put it like this: if a girl is mid to kind of unattractive but will do something you find exciting in bed, are you more or less able to deal with her attractiveness level in the moment? New energy is exciting. Excitement fades and there will always…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:35 PM
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Being desired isn't necessary for being desirable...that's like the whole point of the word. Bless your heart. I’m sure all these above average men live in the wilderness where no woman could ever perceive and therefore desire them…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:25 PM
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Uh, I would think spending hundreds of dollars and traveling thousands of miles to see each other is a little more than "a verbal commitment". It's less of a reason to commit to you. Not more. It's very inconvenient, especially for young people. For a commitment to last under those conditions, desire has to be high. This is common sense. No, I am upset she couldn't even uphold a one week commitment. I am upset at her disloyalty, her lack of consideration and her contempt towards me. Then date so…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:10 PM
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I planned a one week vacation with my then long distance girlfriend. On the 4th day she went on to hang out with a male friend without me because "she needed space". She couldn't even wait 3 days for the vacation to end to ruin our relationship. What besides desirability could even apply to this situation? You're long distance, not living together, not married, no kids, no real ties besides a verbal commitment. There is no "leverage." She did what she desired. You are just upset that she didn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 08:01 AM
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My favorite logical part of the constitution is the 3/5ths compromise. Dunning, meet Kruger.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:35 AM
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They’re totally right though lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:20 AM
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No, sometimes it doesn't come naturally. A woman can desire you sexually and still not be willing to give you time or loyalty. You’re missing the point. Why do you think she doesn’t want to spend time with you or commit to you long-term? Does she actually desire these things with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:07 AM
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Yep. If a man actually has options, then you can see if he's actually a player or not. You don't know with low-value men. So, I think women do care if men are players, but the ones who are okay with that are going to obviously gravitate towards higher value men because at least they're worth the risk unlike low value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 03:09 AM
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I think it's more that loyalty from a man with no options is not impressive because their loyalty is out of desperation and inability to act any other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 01:34 AM
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Loyalty, time etc. Have you not considered that these things come naturally when a woman desires you? The problem isn't that you have "less leverage." The problem is that you are not desirable, so you feel like you have to have leverage to make her comply with your desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:57 AM
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If they're not desired, then how are they "desirable" men? the fact that even men who previously had no issue picking up women are suddenly struggling is actually startling & noteworthy Is this just you personally realizing that older men have a harder time in the young singles scene?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:46 AM
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I was checking accounts of comments that were inciting violence after the attempt on trump, and there were a lot of Euros… I really do wonder how much animosity online in American politics is fueled by people across a whole damn ocean.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:30 AM
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Nah, I’m just using an “everything-else-equal” way of analysing the data. 6pct-point change over 5y is quite a lot. Everything else isn't equal though. The mean age at first birth for men and women aged 15–44 in 2015–2019 (26.4 and 23.7, respectively) was higher than the mean age at first birth for men and women in 2011–2015 (25.5 and 23.1, respectively). <image> The oldest age category is the category making gains, the youngest age category is the category taking losses. I feel like this should…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:27 AM
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My head just spins when men in denmark are arguing about black male fertility rates in the US and likelihood of fathering a child by 40. I do not understand the motive lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:05 AM
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Will never understand why non-Americans try to argue about American dating culture with American data. Why are you guys so obsessed with us? Doesn’t your country have its own discussion topics and its own data…?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:50 PM
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Same report states that the likelihood of fathering a child by age 40 dropped from 78% to 72% whereas mothering a child only dropped from 83% to 81%. Still most likely caused by fertility differences between the sexes and age of first birth. It is futhermore expected that by 1950, a majority of women will be childfree. So the 80% is in for a massive drop when we go to younger cohorts. ? Are you misunderstanding a statistic that involves age at first birth? Not having a child yet and remaining ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:45 PM
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Google recently stated that 25% of the code they produce is being generated by LLM's. CS grads can't find jobs right now. I don't know how to tell you this, but code monkey isn't the primary role of the majority of white collar tech jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:07 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7fi4hP_y80 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvR8BDcS1cI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e1_QhJ1EhQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rzxOgGWgxI Somehow I think highly skilled (and thus paid) manual labor jobs are going to disappear before office jobs lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:05 AM
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Society always needs doordash drivers :) if you want to be a failure, that’s your prerogative. Society isn’t going to crumble.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 04:12 AM
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“Why don’t women want to date autistic men?”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:28 PM
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The majority of social animals of any species understand how to communicate and respond to each other. Autism wouldn’t be a developmental disorder if it was actually natural for people to have no idea how to communicate or respond appropriately in normal everyday social interactions. Cry about it, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:29 PM
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You should’ve leveraged your peak SMV years on securing a man who wanted to be a husband and start a family To do that with a man who is mature enough to actually have a family and marriage he doesn’t fuck up with his mistakes usually means dating 10-15 years older, which is not an attractive prospect because most men also physically peak in their early 20’s. The reason redpillers don’t want to date 35 year old women is the same exact reason 25 year old women don’t want to date 35 year old men. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:23 AM
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So even understanding what exactly people go through emotionally is hard for men, figuring out and displaying proper emotional response that victim expects is even harder, since it's a learned skill applied via conscious effort rather than naturally occuring behavior. Lol what? For autistic men, maybe. Even dogs understand communication of mental states through body language and how to respond to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:02 AM
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why would young men try to improve themselves, get better jobs and more money, if it’s not going to amount to anything like a wife and a family? You don’t have to improve yourself if you don’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:12 AM
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The fact that abortion measures still passed in many states shows that abortion was not the reason a lot of people voted for Trump and Republican legislators. It even "passed" in Florida, although they needed a 60% vote to actually pass it there and didn't get that even though they got a majority. Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:27 PM
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Honestly I don’t even think reparations would be a topic of discussion if more was done by the state to ensure equality of childhood development. My boyfriend went to a poor school and didn’t go to a school computer lab until like 5th/6th grade. Meanwhile, my friend who was also poor but lived a couple counties over had them in 1st because she was at a richer school. And she’s like 4 years older than him, so his school was very behind. I wouldn’t have even thought to ask, but I saw him typing ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:41 AM
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As for reparations, "the state" doesn't pay for anything. The taxpayers are funding all of it. The state is who had the laws that enabled the harm. Sometimes the state had direct involvement with trying to suppress those people as well, such as the abusive letters sent to MLK jr. The state is a responsible party for the things that happened no matter how you cut it. It’s like saying the state shouldn’t pay out claims for what happened in flint Michigan just because it was a few people in governm…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:02 AM
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So can women who don't want to play sports against biological men or share locker rooms with them dismiss leftist viewpoints? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Increasingly no. Can their registered Democrat parents? I was technically a registered democrat in the past to vote in the 2020 primary. I did not have the power to stop Biden from leveraging school lunch funding to make schools adopt trans protections even if I wanted to. Unless those democrat parents live in the DC metro or are important don…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:31 AM
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I think you misfired lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:57 PM
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I wouldn’t say the ideology itself is particularly self-righteous or those other qualities, but that a lot of people attracted to it are self-righteous themselves and wield progressive ideals to reinforce their identity exactly as you describe. They treat it like a religion and use it as a moral shield instead of moral guide the same way that a lot of religious people do. And just like a religion, normal progressives who have conflicting beliefs with the dogmatic progressives often have to throu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:55 PM
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Basically. You would think the party of inclusion, diversity, and accessibility wouldn’t want their message to be primarily understood by the most privileged groups in society, but here we are lol. They also get offended at the idea of populist messaging. I’m not sure if things have always been this way and Obama was an anomaly or if it’s just reactionary against Trump/Bernie. I kinda have a feeling that during the first four trump years when everyone suddenly remembered the word “fascist” exist…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:36 PM
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idk it will randomly do it after making a post sometimes. Doesn't do anything, but the message will keep popping up for a while when loading any page in reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 10:55 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/j8viqggujj1e1.png?width=414&format=png&auto=webp&s=5ffa9e0fba0ee50d0d56b28467572c7ee4fee8b0 new reddit be like
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 10:50 PM
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No. In real life, different women have different opinions about being approached. I do think the majority of women don't want to be approached by particularly unattractive men, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 10:45 PM
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You mean none? Women completely dominate men in every cultural area. Men collectively have practically zero social or cultural power these days. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 10:36 PM
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Honestly, even on topics where liberals are legislating things that conservatives disagree with, conservatives often still choose to hyperfocus on what some random furry communist on twitter said or did over the actual laws that they would disagree with. I think that part is the education gap or something, not sure. I do think it's part of the disconnect between lefties and the people, though. Nobody cares about BLS and FRED economic data when their fee fees are activated and their deepest level…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 10:29 PM
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It's not "editing" when it's writing the majority of the post for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:52 PM
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Difficult question to answer. Probably depends on how you define "effort." Women put more time and effort in over a lifetime to develop the qualities that make an attractive or good partner, so they have less "catching up" to do. Men put less time and effort in over a lifetime to develop the qualities that make them an attractive or good partner, so they have more "catching up" to do. This feels like men are putting in more effort because they're having to learn, but in reality these are skills …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:45 PM
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People who aren't reactionaries aren't going to be eager to engage in points that have been debated to death like the male suicide rate when the topic being discussed is female mental health or whatever. This means the main people engaging in these low-level dead horse discussions are often just people who are highly reactive. You put someone highly emotionally reactive with someone whose level of intellectual depth is just "I'm a victim too" (and often also extremely emotionally reactive) and p…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:17 PM
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It's not that male psychopathy is specifically valued. It's more complicated than that. Dominance is the trait that is over-valued. How dominance is expressed differs between different men and different cultures, and aggression is just one way of expressing it. Why "psychopathic" traits in men are valued in the US is because the US has both a very individualistic culture and men who have a very zero-sum mindset when it comes to success (partially due to the dominance framing on everything.) If s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:51 PM
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The shift was demographics of men more affected by inflation and labor market conditions, not all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:26 PM
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Considering a 40 year old woman is almost infertile, I feel like that just makes sense if you want to have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:31 AM
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Eh, idk. Some aspects of trans stuff is way more controversial even among liberals than the “gender wars” stuff is. It’s a controversial topic even within feminism. White men are pegged by liberals as the people who are the baddies more than any other group and they were one of the groups with the lowest rightward shift.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 05:29 AM
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I mean your own pics say 81% of black men ages 40-49 have kids while 87% of black women in that age group do. This seems more like an age gap at first child thing than black women sharing the same men on some massive scale. Edit: Yeah, that's what is going on: Among women, 29.7% of first births occurred during their teen years and 52.1% occurred during ages 20–29. Among men, 7.3% of first births occurred at ages younger than 20 and 58.0% occurred during ages 20–29. 81.8% of first births for wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:54 AM
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It will definitely help if you feel that mirror selfies look better than front cam selfies. See also: this thread. There are used Canon EOS DSLRs with their stock accessories and lens for like ~$130 on ebay, you would just get a remote and maybe tripod to have an easy setup. Just set that to 50-55mm and set the file type to jpg if you're not sure how to handle raw files, and then you're good to go. (automod ate my post the first time for not having np xd)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:15 AM
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Nobody in that thread called you ugly because you're not ugly. Your pics have the male equivalent of resting bitch face. There is a difference between that and being unattractive. It is specifically the vibe that needs improvement, with a side of how you take the pics (lighting, distance) because those don't help the vibe. Vibe matters as much as if not more than raw looks. The #5 pic is closer to the vibe you want to go for, especially if you are on the nerdy side interest wise (lots of nerds c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:59 AM
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TBH you got some good profile feedback in your prev post. If I were you, I would do what they said. You have good features, but you need to take pics at a greater distance (get a cheap used DSLR with the stock 18-55mm lens and a remote. That will take care of your lens distortion fears and the closeup issue.) in better lighting (outside your house) with a less stiff expression. More than achievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:33 AM
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"Being beautiful" and dressing in a way that gains status or better treatment are two different things. The outer clothes or accessories do not link directly to anyone's personality type or attractiveness. This is kinda delusional. Personal appearance is personal choice and therefore personal expression (unless they're forced to do something different like wear a uniform or something.) People are also perceived differently based on how they look.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:14 AM
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You guys confuse "reward" with "aim of my personal goal" constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:04 AM
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When a man says he has little or no dating experience, he's told that merely talking to women is the solution. So you are communicating that the issue is that you lack experience when asking for advice from other people, at which point they are telling you to just talk to women. The issue with that is, women have to want to speak to you, with it being near impossible for men get a match on dating apps, their DM's ignored on social media, don't even think about cold approaching. When you are tell…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:01 AM
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He just wants you to look at him like that sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:30 PM
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I wouldn’t think being educated makes a woman more likely to cheat unless she’s currently in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:15 PM
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Revolutionary in 2024. Gen Z is cooked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:05 PM
1

This is something you could just put in google scholar if you really cared.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:04 PM
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Attention-seeking women cheat more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:01 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:57 PM
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Sometimes I feel like your average person is just completely incapable of inductive reasoning. Every time someone on this sub asks the obvious like “what is attractive to women” I lose a little more faith in humanity. If you can’t figure out what women around you want through observing them, then your primary issue isn’t that you’re unattractive. It’s that you’re cognitively impaired, and I promise it’s affecting more than just your dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:52 PM
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Dudes get upsetti when you imply they’ll have to try harder at 3 inches than 5 though
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:46 PM
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The standard is whatever you can secure. The men who want 50/50 and can secure it do. There is a higher opportunity cost for young women to date compared to men because young women have more high-quality options and higher costs associated with dating. Date a 50-year old woman if you want "equality" in how much demand and desire there is for your time. Otherwise, whining about paying for it just comes off as you being unable to compete with men who can and will value an attractive young woman's …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 05:49 AM
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I wouldn’t say it’s misogynistic because usually they think it’s inherently predatory for both genders, but I would say it’s misguided. Someone being a little older doesn’t mean they’re automatically predators. In fact, since bad behavior in men seems to peak from 18-25ish, it could be safer to date a little older.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:01 PM
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How are they picking wrong? Any tips on how to pick right? Idk, can't really make a generalization beyond "don't date guys who don't want an LTR with you." Personally, I have never had that issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:39 PM
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They’re either dating guys who don’t want an LTR or they’re not LTR material to the guys they date. Why the women you come across have that issue is better answered by you than us.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:02 PM
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I feel like they’re more worried about their kids paying for their social security atm
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:58 PM
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You don’t like productivity and communication baby jail? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:54 PM
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They want so badly to believe they have more power and control than they actually do. Very mentally and emotionally healthy behavior lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:39 PM
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People of very low SES probably shouldn’t be having children. The difference is that women have access to higher SES men to support a family in some scenarios (second wife) while low SES men usually don’t. If these men really care so much, then they should make themselves more attractive as father material. I really don’t have pity for guys who just expect a woman to come along and have their kids when that would make everyone but that man miserable. Especially when the main reason for wanting a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:25 PM
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I love that color! I have an aquamarine ring and love the lighter colored stones. Wish mine was as hard as a sapphire is though, that's for sure lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:43 AM
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As if that aspect wasn't crazy enough, there was also this: Eagle-eyed online investigators pointed out that another ad showed what appeared to be legal documents from a Supreme Court case that ruled on federal laws regarding child pornography.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:24 AM
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I think the heart is cute, but definitely more punishing on a bad setting. What I was looking for in my mind was something kind of like the left ring's stone size ratio and shape, but the multiple smaller prongs around the largest stone like the two on the right. No clue what that would look like on the heart shape though. It's hard enough to find on ovals these days lol. Def not a traditional style, but my current favorite ring is a cocktail ring... <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 01:59 AM
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Sapphires of any color are so pretty...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 01:16 AM
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It's definitely not just women lol. One guy I know was bragging because he bought this watch on the right when it came out: <image> $20,000 watch btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:50 AM
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People over-value real diamonds in general tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:37 AM
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Within the next year almost certainly. Tbh, I will probably just go custom to get a ring similar to one my dad got me which is the main jewelry I wear at all these days. It's probably that or a plain band myself with the current market's options...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:31 AM
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"oh well maybe you would like a more simple ring!" <image> And it's just some plain-looking ring with massive ass prongs that cover half the stone. They don't even do anything like a cute basket with the setting. It's just lazy ass prongs. Imagine paying $40k for a ring that Tiffany couldn't even be half-assed to make a good-looking setting for.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:25 AM
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Why are modern engagement rings just ugly diamond vomit or some 4 prong basic gemstone on a plain band? <image> Who is holding all the jewelers hostage and telling them to cram as many diamonds onto a ring as possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:19 AM
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Eh, not as much anymore. People with very pale blue eyes age kinda weird. Dark blue and pale green is where it’s at.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:49 PM
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I think you have to change someone’s internal view of the world and themselves for them to really not be a threat anymore, and tbh it will be decades before we can “rehabilitate” responsibly because that requires so many highly trained professionals that are already in shortage. It’s extremely difficult to do, but ultimately the correct option. In lieu of that though, prison is probably the best place for violent or repeat offenders, especially when you consider the first time arrested is often …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:46 PM
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One thing I hate about other liberals is that they will call ANYTHING “violence” for the shock factor to incite punishment and then when it comes to real violence, suddenly they’re taking the moral high ground and are above punishment. Like bro, you won’t even give your biggest supporters a “second chance” because they said something you don’t like, but the second someone is an actual criminal who has hurt someone, the criminal is the real victim somehow and deserves chance after chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:28 PM
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Political beliefs? Maybe, maybe not. Values? I will only date someone with similar values and I will not compromise on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:19 PM
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Why the fuck is this a q4w?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 10:29 PM
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Dominant woman with a submissive boyfriend. We both think a lot of written porn and femdom porn is cringe. We mostly just make our own fantasies with our imagination because we’re not slaves to external prompts or scripting. If you want people to be interested in what you’re into, then you have to make it more attractive to that person. That’s how seduction works.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:37 PM
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Liberals unironically acting like nice guys towards hispanics rn. It’s hilarious. “I put latinx points into the vending machine. Why aren’t kamala votes coming out? No more mr nice lib 👿”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:35 AM
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Balls that look too wrinkly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:16 AM
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They’re going to make her use fedora.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 12:24 AM
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Can’t be enforced in all states iirc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:08 PM
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True tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:55 PM
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It’s basically this. Second group usually just needs friends and ssris.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:29 AM
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I think it’s reasonable to say they’re likely to increase restrictions considering they have already added restrictions at the state level. With him able to install supreme court justices who could define whether or not porn is free speech, it’s not outside the realm of possibility for a total ban. It’s not like men are rebelling in droves in states with more restrictions. Trump won because of men across the board, why would he take away the crack pipe from his own supporters? A lot of conservat…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:24 AM
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Nah he’s just a submissive ass man and wants his face all up in it. He’s not trying to do some covert transaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:15 AM
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It’s doomed because I don’t do things neither of us want to do? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:41 AM
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I don’t do it to him. Neither of us want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:23 AM
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Can you imagine a cis woman saying “we’re better than men because our panties have lace on them!” ? Probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:21 AM
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I never wanted a guy to do it to me before meeting him even though guys before had really wanted to. I'm just super attracted to the guy I'm with now, so the idea of him doing it seemed hot with how badly he wanted to do it. I would never put my face near man ass though, that's a hard line for me LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:19 AM
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This week he learned how to blow dry and straighten my hair so he could help me get ready when we go out. He also took me to ulta and bought me a new straightener. I’m down to be trapped in heaven. Beam me up, captain.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:38 PM
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It’s more than just rimming and yes he likes doing it, he’s the one who really wanted to try it lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:33 PM
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Yeah, let me call up my boyfriend real quick and tell him he can’t put his tongue in my ass anymore because democrats don’t know how to run a campaign. Lol. I told him if they restrict birth control to married couples like the old days then he’s gotta put a ring on it, and he agreed. That’s about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:22 PM
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My boyfriend is gen Z and he doesn’t like either candidate and didn’t vote, but his beef with Kamala’s campaign was the assault weapons ban and her/tim being what he calls a “fudd.” Him and his friends also felt she came off as very fake and preachy, which I agree with. Nothing about the gender stuff lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:10 PM
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“It’s the economy, stupid!”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:06 PM
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The most insane one I know personally said she hoped that someone’s daughter got raped and impregnated. I’ve been kicked from at least one discord so far for just saying Kamala was a bad candidate and that she didn’t lose just because she’s a woman lol. This is even worse than 2016.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:58 PM
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Tbh you get the same advice from women as a woman to not disclose past poor treatment or problems that make you vulnerable too. I do think the best option is to wait until you know they’re trustworthy people. Being safe is worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:35 PM
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The whiny variety of libleft is absolutely inconsolable rn. The rest of us tried to calm them down, but they’re just hysterical lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:32 PM
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For real. Everyone is saying she lost/he won because of their own personal pet issues lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:25 PM
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It definitely goes both ways if the guy is into femdom as well. They like feeling owned.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:13 PM
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Your sources are a quora post and a reddit post. Lol. We just have to make it a law that people cannot be sued as a result of giving CPR or saving someone's life and the problem goes away. The problem does not go away simply by blaming and shaming men into compliance more. Good Samaritan laws already exist in all 50 states. Your own link says that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:57 AM
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My bf’s lock screen is a picture of me in a sweatshirt with no makeup on and frizzy hair looking like casper the ghost. I highly doubt baggy clothes alone are going to turn off a man who loves a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:36 AM
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They need to listen to what Shera says about born again Christian women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:04 AM
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https://preview.redd.it/12cenuj7rfzd1.png?width=863&format=png&auto=webp&s=06063e8ac0ae4d9dbc3696f4a84612f85e8bec84
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:56 AM
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I’m seeing a lot of content on social media about how LGBT are at risk now, and I do get that. But they are such a minority (trans are even less) it’s crazy to expect people to prioritize voting on issues representing such a small group. Are you trying to tell me that Biden using school lunch program funding to push states to comply with trans protections in school locker rooms and sports might have been a move best saved for the second term?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:48 AM
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In lefty spaces the hysteria is absolutely unreal rn. I just hope they suck it up and learn from it before 2028.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:12 AM
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Or an extremely small sample size. You know, two fucking people who lost against the same candidate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:08 AM
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I’m saying in the event that there isn’t a candidate that is normally what you would consider a strong candidate (like Obama who was naturally very charismatic), then it’s the job of the party to make somebody into one. Republicans weren’t doing this very well and that is how Trump came to be the candidate in 2016. Remember Jeb Bush? Yeah. Now they are slowly learning from trump and his base how to do it while democrats have learned fuck all apparently except how to make TikTok edits. This probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:42 PM
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The only job of a political campaign is to win the election, and democrats failed. Trump being elected is a natural consequence. But keep malding and blaming republicans for democrat failures, surely it will work in 2028 like it did this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:36 PM
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And they said the same thing about the male republicans who ran against trump in the primaries in 2016 and 2024. Are they misandrists? Are men just uncharismatic? Is Trump just one of the good ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:29 PM
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The top-down picking isn’t the cause of them not having anybody like that, but a result of it. There’s a lot of reasons for that, but at the end of the day a candidate can be made and that is leadership’s job. They just suck at their job while republicans don’t suck as much at theirs since Trump took over and changed the party. The left basically has to have their own massive change like the republican party or they will just keep taking the L.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:26 PM
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Save that energy when you come crying to us about whatever Trump does 🤣 Trump isn’t even in office yet and liberal women are engaging in mass hysteria. If you’re going to whine so much, then at least correctly identify the problem and solve it instead of kneecapping half the population’s legitimacy as political candidates just to avoid responsibility for the losses.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:18 PM
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By misogyny I mean that these people are saying that she was not voted for purely due to them being misogynistic and her being a woman, thus they can’t vote for a woman. Not misogyny as a function of political ideology overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:03 PM
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Trump is a less compelling candidate compared to 2016 For some white men, maybe, but he still has the support of the majority. For hispanic men? He’s much more compelling than Kamala. DNC leadership shot down Bernie when he was gaining traction to run Hillary Bernie lost the primaries. He was only popular with some democrats. but 3 elections in a row with a corporate-approved candidate pre-selected is asking too much. Name one currently eligible democratic candidate who would please all the snow…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:00 PM
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If people are only their immutable characteristics, then why vote for an old fat man with cognitive decline over a young fit man with wit like desantis? Do republicans have a fetish for fat old men who ramble? Is it because desantis isn’t blonde? I can’t with the idpol brainrot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:47 PM
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If you’re on the left and you are blaming Kamala’s loss on the fact she’s a woman and “muh misogyny” instead of blaming the democratic party and the fact she was an uncharismatic candidate, then you’re just a sexist yourself. You morons would have said the same thing if she won: “because she’s a woman!” As if her gender is even close to the most relevant factor. The loss is deserved. You guys are just pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:39 PM
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Domestic violence is a unique exception in most no fault states such as California.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:09 AM
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Cheating during marriage shouldn’t be a crime, but the option for fault divorce should be available and the actions of the cheater should be factored in when dividing assets and paying for the legal costs of those fault divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:06 AM
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What did your dad tell you about dating and women, OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 11:50 PM
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This isn’t some 19 year old. I think it’s less likely that TRP brainwashed a grown man like him and more likely that he had another motive (like infidelity) and was looking for rationalizations for his behavior which he found in aspects of TRP. For example: Just days before his wife's death, he liked a post that read: 'I no longer trust women in work environments. Men are easy for me to screen cause... I'm one of them.’ Women? Not as easy. Especially given how in modern times, they put their hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 11:42 PM
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TRP itself? No. I’m all for them saying the quiet part out loud where I can see the strategies and patterns of behavior. What affected my willingness to date men was just the extreme levels of emotional immaturity in most 20’s men combined with their apparent inability to handle criticism and feedback. Say what you want about TRP, but at least old school RP encouraged some personal responsibility for personal outcomes such as failure. This modern wave of men is absolutely addicted to playing the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 11:15 PM
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Apparently he lit up red on the scanner in his nether region where the lube was. According to chatgpt: Advanced imaging technology (AIT) scanners, such as millimeter-wave scanners, detect differences in material density and moisture levels on the body. Silicone lubricants are thicker than natural skin oils and could form a layer that reflects or absorbs the scanner’s signals differently, leading to an anomaly in the scan.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 11:00 PM
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My boyfriend apparently got flagged for a pat down at the airport scanner today because of the silicone astroglide we used before he left…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:43 PM
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This is the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:05 PM
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A "good man" means a man she likes whose presence in her life makes it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:09 PM
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? There are sexually dimorphic areas of the brain that are that way due to physical sex characteristics and hormones rather than socialization. The physical brain and the way it works can also be altered by socialization. It’s not either or…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 05:50 AM
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https://preview.redd.it/55v7ao8r11yd1.png?width=1438&format=png&auto=webp&s=f769195bbc13e08237d1d47805b366d0be954a96
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 05:25 AM
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Our entire culture contributes to it (yes, women do too), so it shouldn't surprise you why men feel worthless when they never experience sex. I understand it. I think there are multiple facets to why a man would feel bad not having sex, but masculinity affirmation is probably the one that fucks up the dynamic for everyone though. It makes fun, exploration (which could lead to “failure” or doing something incorrectly and is thus avoided at all costs and replaced with “communicate exactly what you…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:15 AM
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Men and women primary sex act is insertion. Which doesn’t directly stimulate the clit. So yes it’s definitely the biology of the situation. That’s not “biology.” That is a choice that is being made. If you think penetration is the “biological” sex act due to reproduction and that’s why it’s framed as the most important act for heterosexuals even during non-reproductive sex, then why the fuck would a lesbian “biologically” have sex at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 09:46 PM
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Female orgasms aren't really explained by evolution. This is just incorrect. There are many plausible theories. Because the female orgasm isn't needed for procreation. And this is a misunderstanding of why our sexual organs are the way they are and the functions of sex in humans. It's thought to be a byproduct of giving birth (the orgasm was supposed to lessen the pain a bit during birth) What moron told you this? Literally plug “why did women evolve to have orgasms” into google or chatgpt. It’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 08:44 PM
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People thinking it’s the silver bullet and lesbian sex is the same as straight sex is ridiculous. Women desire a different style of sex from men. If you started having sex as a guy like a lesbian most women prob freak out. The way lesbians have sex is going to be significantly more conducive to achieve orgasm for the woman. Then you’re saying it’s down to the acts engaged in during sex rather than women’s “biology” …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 08:34 PM
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Also men: “why don’t we have sex anymore like we did when we first got together”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 08:32 PM
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A lot of men who prefer to be dominant in the bedroom still go down or do other things with the specific purpose of getting her off. Most women prefer orgasm to no orgasm. It doesn’t make sense to say that “being used” is what turns women on the most and then also say this is the scenario where they are having less orgasms. If they’re so turned on, why are they not getting anywhere? Are they just edging or something? Is there a mass conspiracy to goon?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 08:30 PM
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It’s like you didn’t read what I wrote at all lol. Did you mean to respond to someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 08:10 PM
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If you just go down there and start testing her responses to poke and rubs like a science project, she's going to get turned off. Women don't often communicate to guys how they like to get off. If they just said rub here or go down there and do this, most all guys would do it. They don't because for many women getting off every single time is not always her own priority. You are misunderstanding what is going on here. Women aren’t having sex with just men. Women are having sex with men and his s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:46 PM
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Where does the notion that men are helpless cavemen buffoons that need constant caring come from? We know they’re not helpless buffoons. That’s the point. They make it our problem anyway, whether that be viewing us as the household manager or relationship manager. I was arguing with some dude on here the other day who thinks women should teach men how to turn them on and give them an orgasm, then reward the man like some kind of dog so that it’s enjoyable for him to learn. That it was “unfair” a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:01 AM
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I mean most people want to be providers on some level considering most people have children. It’s not necessarily that men feel a need to be the sole earner (big red flag, possible abuser) as much as they just want their partner to be happy and fulfilled, and providing is the vehicle. Maybe some other things like their sense of masculinity play into it, but for most men, they just want to do right by their family and that’s the core reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:56 AM
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…I feel like it’s normal and self-explanatory to want to make someone happy. When you interact with a baby, do you behave in ways to make it like you, or to make it smile?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:42 AM
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Women want a man who will add to her life overall. There are lots of ways to do that besides objective status markers, but a lot of men don’t have those skills. It’s less that women need a man better than her to submit to and more that it takes a lower and lower level of self-respect to “submit” (mother and overfunction in the relationship) the more that a woman has on her own. You would have to be a severe masochist to have a doctorate degree and choose to be with someone who expects you to “te…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:17 AM
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Why are most people pursuing this goal? To have a family. The problem is that people pursue this goal without committing themselves to it. They want the fun cool thing, then things get hard or their life circumstances change or it gets “too hard,” and they give up and either leave or become neglectful. I own two parrots and you see the same thing with parrot owners. I have had my little guys for 12 and 10 years each, and I am unfortunately an outlier. Most birds get passed around to 3-4 owners, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:35 PM
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At that point just lay down and roll
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:05 PM
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This. Shape > weight (at least until you’re solidly within fat territory).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:03 PM
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Friend, you really need to work on your reading comprehension skills. what i said is that High IQ people would seldom engage in the topic you posted (norms about masculinity, lol) Let’s see what Ms. Mumpus wrote: For example, for men who pride themselves on what they know and who are fearful of women’s rejection because of cultural norms about masculinity You think that high IQ people seldom pride themselves on facets of their intelligence? There is an entire subreddit and subculture of “burnout…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 08:54 PM
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No, its not, you're not special. And you can stop projecting. Ms. Mumpus says that romantic relationships require more social skills than other types of relationships and test them more thoroughly. I really shouldn’t need to explain this… They aren't usually a nerd. High IQ people are a different breed, hence why they are called gifted. Nerds are a stereotype because they're common enough to see, gifted people don't fit these. Mr. Bumpus says that intelligent people without social skills are usu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 08:26 PM
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I'm saying they tend to struggle more on general social contexts. Ms. Mumpus says I am saying that if they do not have social skills, then they will be even worse in a relationship. This is heightened for men in particular for a lot of reasons. For example, for men who pride themselves on what they know and who are fearful of women’s rejection because of cultural norms about masculinity, a situation where his girl is angry with him and he has zero knowledge on how to fix it makes him immediately…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:52 PM
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Right, these nerdy men definitely don’t struggle in particular with the opposite sex compared to the same sex. And this is definitely not heightened in a romantic context. Hang on, let me grab the finger puppets…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:26 PM
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I do wonder if age has something to do with it. They seem to mellow out as they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:19 PM
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It’s attractive, but not enough by itself. For whatever reason, 20-something high IQ men seem to have much worse social skills and relationship skills, while the same isn’t necessarily true for high IQ women. You would think they would use their intelligence to problem-solve in a relationship, but in reality I think them realizing there is a lot of stuff they don’t know and can’t straightforwardly figure out (relationship skills) puts them in some kind of panic where they shut down and start usi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:09 PM
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A men’s self-help book.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 08:27 PM
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Oh is this a gay fantasy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 07:11 PM
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Eh. App no, bar yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 07:09 PM
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Damn. No wonder he took it then…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 07:05 PM
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Yeah, no man would want basically a free pass to move to an extremely wealthy first world country with a bunch of single women… They’re definitely not chomping at the bit to move here as is and then forced to go to Canada instead… US allies and all the economies in the world dependent on us would just let some rando invade and destabilize the global economy even worse than our little fuckup in 2008 did. That totally would be fine in the current global economy and it’s definitely strong enough to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 07:00 PM
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It happens because either the person has failed to adopt socially appropriate behavior or because what they did was somehow perceived as falling under the scope of socially appropriate behavior. One means individual control, the other social. Repression is fine as long as you can control your impulses. Liberation is also fine as long as the external social boundaries are clearly defined and enforced.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:50 PM
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If it wasn’t a joint account the better question is why did he have access and why didn’t she report it to the police…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:44 PM
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Like if you were talking to your girlfriends and said "Bob is a good guy" would they really think that you might be implying that Bob is hitting it right? Outside of a dating context, no. Inside of a dating context, I would take that to mean he would be a good guy to date, not that he is morally a good guy. Kinda like how girls say “you’ll be a good guy for someone” - they don’t mean he will be morally good person for someone. They mean they see potential to overall add to a woman’s life, but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:39 PM
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I guess this is probably where the breakdown in what women mean by "good guys" and what men mean by "good guys" takes place. theoretically they'd be more willing if you actually wanted a relationship and to get to know them versus if you were just a hot guy who wanted to have sex with them for a night. Having a relationship with a man, especially at the peak of female SMV, is actually a larger opportunity cost than just fucking a dude on the side. It only really makes sense to see "giving" a rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:24 AM
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He's good because he's morally good. He's pure hearted and intentioned. This is a little confusing. Wanting "just sex" or "just love and affection" at the end of the day is basically wanting the same thing in different forms for most young men: validation, feeling special, and feeling desirable. I'm not sure how wanting the same thing in a different form (although most guys fuck their girlfriends, so in a way it's actually asking for more) is somehow morally superior. Is it a religious thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:35 AM
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The good guy that struggles with dating is the introvert. Boring, quiet, keeps to themselves are not inherently bad but are seen as bad. Okay, but what makes him good?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:01 AM
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Many men around here seem motivated by justice. They want to play by the old rules that approval from other men = access to women. To them, catering to female desire is the injustice despite them admitting themselves how badly they want and need those women compared to the reverse. They want and need it more and have more competition from men including older men, but piss themselves if there isn’t “equal” effort from women they want to date. They can stand the idea of putting in more effort than…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 08:10 PM
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No, even in my extended friend group I don’t know any single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 07:38 PM
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For the title and first paragraph, it would depend on why. I’ve never had that happen though so who knows, maybe I would change my mind if it did. Better yet, he's had a history of giving tons of money to female webstreamers, giving all his emotional validation etc whereby essentially rewarding them (despite them not giving a shit about him as a person or treating him as a disposable object). This is a no go regardless of how he treats me, assuming you mean like a titty streamer or camsite or so…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 07:35 PM
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To safely do this, you'd have to require STD testing pretty much every time you have sex with these women. There isn’t a male HPV test. Reminder to get the vaccine, nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 07:17 PM
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Yes, but I have never dated anyone I didn't see for at least a few months. I vet pretty hard during the talking phase and don't agree to a date unless I'm pretty sure it'll be a good match.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:57 AM
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Maybe he means femboys
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:51 AM
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It’s literally not random. Not only does it have a specific definition, but even if it didn’t, it’s an inventory…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:58 AM
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as a measure of discrimination against women. That does not make it hostile sexism. Hostile sexism is a specific term with a specific definition in this context. It is half of the larger concept of ambivalent sexism. It is not just any random type of sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:37 AM
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Hostile and benevolent sexism are specifically defined attributes. Tradwife memes fall under benevolent sexism in those inventories, not hostile sexism. If you think it’s defined as hostile sexism, then you are misremembering what you read in those papers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:11 AM
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Do you do the same and reciprocate for him Of course. You're the one who brought up settling with a man guilt tripping you, I never said that. It's almost like you're having an imaginary argument in your head that has nothing to do with what anyone is actually saying. You really should try and stop doing that. Third time within 24 hours you've done this too. Take a good hard look, ladies. This is the reality of dating a “she just needs to teach me” man. First, he’ll try to feed you the sob story…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:48 AM
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Yes yes everything is always men's fault, men who fail are pathetic and stupid and just need to pull thnwlselges up by their own bootstraps even harder, while women are perfect and are entitled to the best without giving an ounce of effort in return. You can solve the problem, or you can blame men, and you're clearly not interested in solving the problem, just in blaming men and keeping the status quo. My solution is to not fuck men who can’t handle basic sexual responsibilities. “You just want …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:30 AM
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My man is moving in with me at the end of the year and is a giver outside of the bedroom as well as within it. He takes responsibility for the things he is expected to do in a relationship because he is an adult and because he cares about me and wants me to be happy. Why on god's green earth would I ever settle for a man who has to guilt trip or scare me into wanting to fuck him when I can choose a man who puts effort into being desirable? The only kind of woman who is content to settle for less…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:12 AM
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Well yeah because women keep picking handsome asshole Chad, so handsome asshole Chad gets more and more experience, but is and will remain an asshole, meanwhile women refuse to be with good guy Greg who could become a fantastic sex partner if only women deigned to use their words like a grown ass adult and tell him what she needs and wants. If Greg really wanted to be a fantastic sex partner, then he would put in the effort to meet basic expectations without being handheld. What Greg actually wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:52 AM
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Nobody said anything about pity sex. https://preview.redd.it/c8n2u4ou9nwd1.png?width=676&format=png&auto=webp&s=0ad5acde4ce8964dce3ada4045c778e958875621 Nobody said anything about pity sex, you are just trying to convince women to fuck a man by making them pity him. Poor good guy Greg, if only women would give him a chance... be fucking for real. Have you ever at any point communicated to him that you didn't like something, or that you want more of something else? I have never had to coach a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:22 AM
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The point is though I can imagine what a random generic woman might like, but I can't know what my partner likes. This is honestly one of the nuttiest things I have ever read on this subreddit. I don't even know what to do with that statement. You can imagine how to make a random generic woman have an orgasm but not your partner? What? To know what my partner likes, I need her to tell me, because I cannot read her mind. Why do women have to make it so complicated to share with your male partner …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:52 AM
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So basically, "men you don't deserve help, empathy, or sympathy, No, men do not “deserve” pity sex or to be chosen despite being the worse option on all metrics relevant to sex. women are entitled to be merciless against you and you just have to shut up and take it like a man If you want pity sex, then perhaps behave in a way that is less entitled and actually elicits pity. Otherwise, don’t be shocked when women don’t want to pity fuck you. but don't you dare act like that against women". There …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:20 AM
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Imagine going to a restaurant and being mad that you have to actually tell the waiter what you want to eat and how you want it prepared, that the waiter should just be able to read your mind and somehow automatically just know. You literally write furry porn talking about physical sensations no human has. I think it’s not a stretch to say you’re capable of figuring out what a human female could possibly like without her giving you a play by play. And humans landed on the moon because of clear, c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:08 AM
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So what you're saying is that men have to read women's minds to figure out what women aren't telling them, that if he fails to improve it is his fault, and if he fails to read her mind it is his fault, and that on top of that any effort or attempt she makes, no matter how small, is so incredibly repugnant to her that she can't help but think of other people while having sex rather than the person she is currently with? You’re not thinking here. Unless she is bisexual, has she eaten out a woman? …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:57 AM
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You think it’s about masculinity? Crazy how my man doesn’t have to tell me a step by step of what he desires then. I think up shit neither of us have even heard of let alone done or expressed a desire for and he loves it. I must be the most masculine man to ever exist. Or maybe I am just an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:37 AM
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Not women’s fault either, yet men like him want women to have sex with unattractive and inexperienced men instead of attractive and experienced men. If you expect a charity and want to be selected even though you are the objectively worse option, perhaps put SOME effort in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:21 AM
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Yeah learned helplessness is a no-go from me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:06 AM
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I think it depends. When I first met my current man, he was extremely depressed and complained/sulked a lot about his life and the world. He was open-minded though, and with medication/therapy/me helping him see things differently, he is basically a different person now. He had a strong desire for change and the complaining was a cry for help. I see a lot of other men who aren't actually genuinely suffering as much as they are just looking to preserve their ego. There is a difference between "I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:30 PM
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I feel like if you can't tell, then it either means she doesn't like it or she is in her head, which a lot of times essentially means she's not that into it or is too overwhelmed. If a guy acted like that with me, I would try to figure out which one it is (usually you can tell by pausing and seeing how they respond to things like flirtation that they would normally be responsive to - no/low response = in their head) and then try to resolve it. Unfortunately, when it's the in their head/overwhelm…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:12 PM
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Effort is all that is required for the basics of getting a woman off in the vast majority of cases. The rest I would say should be more the two of them collaborating rather than just her dictating what she wants and him making her micromanage his technique, which is what a lot of men mean when they say they want to be taught. One is fun and exploratory with a fusion of both people’s natural styles and talents which come together for a unique experience, the other is a painstaking “are we there y…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:41 PM
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Don’t make me get the muzzle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:08 PM
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I’m fine with that as long as they’re not complaining real women aren’t fucking them…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:51 PM
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Dudes will come on reddit to write 20 paragraphs of furry erotica detailing them imagining the pleasurable sensations of having paw pads and tails and then turn around and say human female bodies are an enigma and must be fully explained by women during sex if they could ever hope to know how to please her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:44 PM
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I have both with my current man. You can be intimate and good at sex. You can have a strong bond with someone and still want to find new and exciting ways to have sex with them. I’m not with him to stop exploring sexually, I’m with him to explore sexually with him. Idk, that is such a weird dichotomy to break it down into.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:42 PM
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How does he know what her "playbook" contains? Why does that even matter? This is one of those questions answered by sexual experience. We go through life being compared constantly. Who wants to bring that to the bedroom. People who aren’t afraid of how they will be seen in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:11 PM
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If you don’t want to be compared, then don’t make her give you his playbook. Fuck her yourself like a man. It’s that simple. You’d have to do that with someone inexperienced anyway. But thank you for confirming it’s about fear of being seen as inadequate or failing and not men literally being incapable of figuring it out on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:51 PM
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The point OP was actually making; of the people transitioning, why are most of them aspiring women as opposed to aspiring men? Go lurk on the askagp subreddit and you will have your answer. A good chunk, although not all, are doing it due to their sexuality. It’s the same reason men are over-represented in other types of paraphilias. Body integrity disorder (wanting to be an amputee, also tied to amputee fetishism) is also disproportionately male.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:34 PM
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It is fine for a woman to stay at home and be a homemaker That is benevolent sexism, not hostile sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:28 PM
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It is a gendered issue because only women get pregnant. It is not, however, something exclusively supported/opposed along gendered lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:21 PM
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And a less handsome man with a better personality doesn't equate to being a good partner, let alone a good partner in bed. Often they are worse in bed because they’re less experienced and more insecure. So they will sit there and do what he is doing and expect a play by play so that they don’t have to experience the self-esteem consequences of their own lack of skill and competence. Their ego can’t handle being unattractive and a bad lay, so they need to be able to blame at least one of those on…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:04 PM
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The consequences are a sex life that is actually enjoyable with men who act like grown adults. I’m just going to copy and paste my reply to his other comment: I’m not saying that the reason women don't finish is because of men either. I'm just saying men have no experience with the female body and cannot ever know the female body as well as the women who have a female body, so if women want men to know how to please them, then women will have to teach men, because men can't just read their minds…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:16 PM
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I’m not saying that the reason women don't finish is because of men either. I'm just saying men have no experience with the female body and cannot ever know the female body as well as the women who have a female body, so if women want men to know how to please them, then women will have to teach men, because men can't just read their minds nor can men just gain experience out of nowhere. We would still be hunter-gatherers if the male mindset towards female pleasure was something they applied to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:04 AM
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Even as a sexually dominant woman, the idea of having to tell a man how to please me step by step is a turn off. Humans have landed on the moon out of their own volition, no I am not going to sit there and play doctor with you like we are both stunted children learning about anatomy and sex for the first time just because you are either too lazy or too fragile to figure it out on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:47 AM
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The JCPenney skirt part too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:39 PM
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Truly cannot wrap my head around how OP thinks genetics works either. Does he think there’s some female-only submissive and breedable gene?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:31 PM
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because they’re afraid of getting hurt
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:56 PM
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I do think this is the correct answer and that ultimately it has to do with how uncomfortable a lot of men are with emotional vulnerability. There are multiple reasons: because it’s not stereotypically masculine, because they’re not sure how to do it in a way that isn’t overwhelming, because they’re afraid of getting hurt, because they think it will be unattractive, because they may lose leverage and power. A lot of the ways men talk about women are similar to strategies that dismissive avoidant…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:21 AM
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If they really like you, then they’ll do one of two things once they feel your judgement of them as inadequate in an area where they pretty much objectively are inadequate: they will either try and argue with you to protect their ego at all costs, or they will listen to you and try to fix it. If they can’t even muster one of those, then your judgement of them holds no emotional weight, which means they aren’t emotionally invested in you. It’s something you usually can vet for pretty easily after…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:35 AM
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Because they see it as a dichotomy where men are either used for sex without having to invest, or they are used for resources and stability that they do have to invest. They desire to be used for sex because they see that as the option where they are getting more for less investment. However, in the real world, women have desires too and there is investment required from men into themselves in terms of physical appearance, charisma, and sexual skill for women to want to use those men for sex. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:57 AM
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The only time it dropped, it was because his behavior made it difficult to respect him. I didn’t want to touch him at all, let alone fuck him. The relationship didn’t last long past that though because I dumped him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:02 AM
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Do you not think the following trends point to collapse? No. "The West" has existed in some form for thousands of years and survived much worse than anything most of us 20-somethings have ever witnessed. Industrialization alone caused chaos and many of the things on your list were far worse then than any first world country of today. Europe has survived WWII, the development of nuclear weapons, communism. And yet somehow guys who idolize "the West" think that twitter, some North Africans, and sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:20 PM
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Why should he accept that? He doesn't have to, that's why divorce exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:44 PM
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It feels like dudes who can’t get laid and/or married make up a whole story about how the men who DO get laid and/or married are secretly miserable and the women with them don’t actually like them. It’s just a projection/reversal of the madonna/whore complex. They think women view them the same way, right down to coding the men who are having sex as “bad boys” and the men not having sex as “good guys.”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 07:22 AM
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I feel like it’s perfectly reasonable to expect a lifelong monogamous relationship to not have extramarital sexual partners lol. If that ends relationships or if men are just more comfortable being cucked, then so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 07:14 AM
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I mean the hardest part of upholding that commitment is the lifelong monogamy, is it not? Like of course more marriages are going to succeed if you remove the largest obstacle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:22 AM
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…you’re saying lifelong monogamy is the goal but using gay male relationships as your bar? By monogamy do you just mean not divorcing, or do you mean actual monogamy without extramarital sex partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:47 AM
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Nor is there any clear cost to telling the truth versus lying, Sure there is. You miss out on the opportunity to meet that person’s emotional needs, which makes them like you more. ie social capital. If the researcher was looking for honest feedback and cued that, then it would have been missing out to not give it, but the cue was for approval. The researcher might think about adjusting the receipe, and then everyone who drinks it after them will be able to honest and say they enjoy it (hopefull…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:20 AM
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But could they pick up the slack if that field should ever suffer a critical shortage of manpower? Unlikely. I mean these are college educated positions you’re talking about. Unless perpetually angry nerds someday outnumber women, I think we’re safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:05 AM
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The young women in their 20’s use their counterspell: SSRIs
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:55 AM
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It is not necessarily clear that they didn't read the situation correctly, namely that the researcher was capable of dealing emotionally with their criticism, even if it wasn't to the researcher's preference. You'd have to introduce a "researcher demonstrates emotional fragility" condition in order to test this conclusion. From their perspective, there is probably no reason not to prioritize the researcher’s feelings. They don’t really gain anything socially or personally by expressing their dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:48 AM
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You think men like Laramie Leeks can perform the high-level mathematics and science required for military R&D? Don’t know who that is, but military R&D can be done by women lol. If that’s why you think neckbeards are important, then I have bad news for you - anything a 20’s “misunderstood” neckbeard can contribute, women can too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:34 AM
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That’s going to depend on the individual, unlike the circumstances you described with: If men didn't have to be good people back then, which is debatable, then at best there is no additional reason for them to be good people. At worst, there is even less reason for them to be good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:29 AM
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If men didn't have to be good people back then, which is debatable, then at best there is no additional reason for them to be good people. At worst, there is even less reason for them to be good people. <image> In case you were wondering, the preconventional level of moral development is most commonly seen in children under 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 12:37 AM
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If somehow the baddies overwhelm the US military industrial complex, something tells me some neckbeards aren't going to make the difference even if they wanted to lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 12:31 AM
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If you're talking about Greece, that's a hell of an economic problem to tie to men not getting pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 12:27 AM
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The western world is not collapsing lol, even after the social and economic stress test that was covid 19. Also, I see lots of angry and frustrated men these days You should have seen them during WWII or the great depression. Something tells me they will find a way to get over having to settle for a mid woman when they're late 20's early 30's.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 12:22 AM
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If anything, this is proving that guys are quite fine overlooking the terrible shit women do as long as she’s attractive. Tbh, I think sometimes it's deeper than that. I think on some level they resonate with the way that she degrades herself and acts out for the joker's approval, because they also feel obsession driven by desire and degrade themselves with it, including harming or dominating innocent people. I think some of them like her because her desperate behavior is familiar and resonates …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 11:07 PM
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Right, it’s not personal, that’s why you make some version of this thread over and over on multiple accounts… Don’t worry, that statement applies to all the men who do what my comment talked about, not just you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 10:51 PM
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It shouldn't be taught that it's better not to say anything when you are being wronged. They're like 5. For all they know, this is just a type of lemonade they don't like. I highly doubt they feel like they are being "wronged" because that is projecting what the girls feel (disgust) as the intention of the other person when the girls have no evidence to support this. The person who made the lemonade says they worked really hard on it and they are looking for the girls' approval of what they did.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 07:14 PM
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Thanks for proving my point :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:50 PM
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In a relationship, whoever has the least developed sex drive has more control over the other person, and in most cases the person with the less developed sex drive is the woman, which allows women to use sex to get men to jump through hoops. I've been the HL with an LL male. He told me once he was afraid to compliment my appearance because he felt like it gave me power over him. Him having a lower sex drive than me didn't give him power over me, I just got myself off lol. You guys have some weir…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:48 PM
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I would say laziness. Again, it’s not that men don’t think this way, it’s that they channel it into less important things like lifting or video games. It’s fundamentally a values issue. You know what is neurotic though? The way men who feel inadequate feel the need to try to make the other person feel their shame. I know you guys know deep down that caring for your family should be your #1 priority, but when reminded that your values suck, you lash out. Having so little tolerance for your own in…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:14 PM
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Children benefit from highly invested parents. You can paint that negatively all you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that most women know how important high standards for care are when raising a child, and they are disgusted on some level by men who are comfortable doing less. It’s extremely difficult to respect a man who values your children less than you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:44 AM
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If there is one single facet of life where it is worthwhile to care too much instead of too little, it is in raising children.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 03:32 AM
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Why does that account have so many posts in askgaybros lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 10:53 PM
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Not a French man in sight. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 10:42 PM
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I think it’s the same reason that people who own a small business or work for themselves often work harder than people who work in an office. If you are not lazy or entitled and you are family-oriented, then your internal standard for how you take care of your own children is almost definitely higher than any external standard at your workplace. Rather than having someone externally give you feedback, you are constantly in a state of self-monitoring. Your boss isn’t aware of every little ineffic…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 08:30 PM
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I couldn’t respect a man who would step out on his wife, much less be attracted to him. I am trying to wrap my mind around this "morally" but can't seem to find anything wrong with this. Because you lack empathy and character and are only concerned about whether or not you will be punished for your actions. All you care about is getting yours. As long as you can blame somebody else for how their partner would feel, you think it’s okay. Gross, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 06:24 PM
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The reason is if a very beautiful woman walked up to me and mainly just wanted to have sex with me, I’d know something was wrong. When this happens to women and some very desirable attractive man does the same, they put the blinders on and think they are special somehow. Guys think slutty women are gross. A lot of them don’t, and that’s why Onlyfans, twitch titty streamers, and instathots exist. Men are the ones spending so much free time pining after people who will never want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 05:58 PM
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Again, a woman not wanting an undesirable man to do something to her does not mean she cares if he does it to someone else or that she doesn't want him to do it to anyone. She doesn't care if his sexuality exists, she just doesn't want it directed at her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 01:21 AM
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I think it’s perfectly reasonable to say you’re fine with gay people but don’t want them to hit on you. That doesn’t mean you want gay people to not exist, it just means you want them to behave in a socially appropriate way when there is literally no reason for them to hit on someone straight in the first place. It’s extremely irrational to say something like “If Tom doesn’t want to be my friend, then Tom doesn’t want me to be social at all or have any friends.” Paranoid, even.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 09:27 PM
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That’s a problem with granny engaging in socially inappropriate behavior, not a problem with her having a sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 09:11 PM
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No, who cares about the sexuality of men who are undesirable? It’s like saying you wish grandmas were asexual because you personally don’t want to fuck them. You don’t care if granny is sexual, you just don’t want to fuck her yourself because you’re not attracted to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:01 PM
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I think it’s just as much the psychological element of it being big as the physical. Same as how they want tall men or men want big tits. So while you can insult, it also kinda communicates that you don’t understand why they desire what they do… which makes you sound inexperienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 04:07 PM
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What was at issue is that there are studies showing that many woman perceive benevolent sexism towards them as equality and equality towards them as hostile sexism. Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 09:15 PM
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Approaching to buy cumshot titty pics: socially normal. Approaching to get to know someone because you find them sexually attractive: socially abnormal, sociopathic even.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 04:15 PM
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How does wanting sex really badly equate to being sexually selfish? You guys are aware you still have a mouth and hands even when your balls are empty, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 03:48 PM
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Souring someone’s opinion of you in a way that can’t be compensated for later down the line in your personal life is quite a bit different than “women want unattractive men to be asexual.” It’s also very weird to frame it as the women you have met as wanting you to be asexual when it sounds like they just aren’t attracted to you. It sounds like you are projecting the sexual inadequacy you feel when you are rejected onto those women as if it’s their goal to actually make you sexually inadequate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 06:22 AM
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Acting helpless and vulnerable which makes the other person walk on eggshells and feel fully responsible for their emotions, playing the victim, refusing to take responsibility and deflecting blame ("I'm not bad at listening, you're just bad at communicating what you want me to do" / "You're supposed to be the leader so anything I do wrong is your responsibility"), guilt tripping with their dependency to stop the other person from leaving. See also: a lot of tactics that addicts and BPD people u…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 12:04 AM
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Emotional manipulation and underhanded tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 08:20 PM
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The sure sign of a guy trying to take you for a ride is if he expects you to be independent in areas that would normally require investment or compromise from him, but still expects submission and investment from you to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 08:12 PM
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Why would women not want undesirable men to become desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 06:47 PM
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If a single mother provides a minimalistic lifestyle for her children, and spends most of her earnings/child support on luxuries for herself, should she face legal consequences foor that? The court tries to calculate who needs to pay what in order for the child to have the same standard of living as they otherwise would have, and they try to define what those needs being met looks like. As long as the money is paid and the agreed upon standard is met, then there are no consequences. Anything els…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 06:46 AM
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I don't really care if the child has to go to public school or live in a smaller house after separation. It's not a big deal, living circumstances of children with married parents change as well. They can easily say the same thing about how your standard of living changes because of paying support. The difference is that the child is not the one who chose to bring themselves into the world. What is money for if not to invest in your own children? It's just crazy to me. I can't imagine ever looki…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 05:29 AM
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Shirts that cling to their pecs, or if they're really skinny then more loose, drapey tops with a wide neck or deeper V.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 05:14 AM
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I think it depends. If he honored his side as best as he could and was making good faith efforts to rebuild, compensate, or compromise, then it does seem somewhat callous, especially if whatever it was wasn’t his fault and was somewhat temporary (months to a couple years). Just because you’re marrying someone for money doesn’t mean you shouldn’t care about them or see them through hardships. If they’re not somebody you would want to do at least that with, then you probably shouldn’t even marry t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 12:40 AM
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You can literally just lie to other men about having sex if you’re so worried about their view of your masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:16 PM
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35 year old immigrant: I'm sorry if you are confused somewhere. English is not my first language. Proceeds to write Cambridge Level English with a diverse set of words and exact spellings. Germans be like
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:10 PM
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I prefer ragebait to weird fetish threads. The dude who was posting “what if men had tits too and their milk was more nutritious, how would society change” had a WILD post history.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:07 PM
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Not attractiveness, but vibe. Some men just have better attitudes and sexual compatibility than others. For example, a dude who sees sex acts, especially degrading or humiliating ones, as some kind of conquest he needs to achieve to dictate his position in the social hierarchy is usually not the kind of guy I go for at all, let alone go wild with. Not really interested in using my body to pacify a guy’s inferiority complex. It comes off like you’re unable to directly dominate other men (either o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:14 AM
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https://www.tiktok.com/@nypost/video/7425000824151084330 JD “she has three kids, obviously I help with the kids” Vance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:06 PM
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If you’re going to marry someone then you can nix the stripper if it makes them uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:02 PM
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Well the difference is going to be whether or not she likes you, which shouldn't be that difficult to figure out based on social cues and how she treats you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:30 PM
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I’ve never had to settle for someone I’m not attracted to and never will. The rest of you can have each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:18 PM
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Anyone can have whatever preferences or dealbreakers they want. Just be prepared to deal with the natural consequences, which include other people having an opinion about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 05:38 PM
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The men who excuse men's sexual transgressions are a very small minority in the West and have no institutional power. You’re joking right? Were you just sleeping through the Epstein, Diddy, and other massive scandals involving “male sexuality” and powerful people? People who have influence over both the public AND private sectors at the highest levels?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 05:10 PM
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Depends on why.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:25 AM
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Because they are completely satisfied with: just seeing if the lack of attraction is tenable or not for a long-term “safe” relationship where nobody has to be alone but nobody actually likes each other. If given a choice, most people are not going to choose a purely transactional relationship where they aren’t attracted to the other person. That’s basically the definition of settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:01 AM
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Sex workers are not exclusively female lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 05:27 AM
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Prob not, oh well lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 01:38 AM
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No i mean 1 date, maybe 3 dates tops. Most people can sus out people in 1-3 dates. … You realize the whole point of the “demisexual” identity is that it takes those people longer than 1-3 dates to know, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 01:24 AM
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Most women I have seen who call themselves “demisexual” date people they are not attracted to. They then, 6 months after getting to know someone and casual dating, are shocked they never developed romantic or sexual feelings for this person. “It just takes so long to know!” Makes sense when you realize they are waiting for someone they don’t find attractive to randomly become attractive instead of just dating somebody attractive to begin with. If a woman is lonely, all she needs to do is to fire…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:14 AM
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Are you okay with a 60% reduction in us birth rate? If women can’t handle adult responsibilities then they shouldn’t be having babies, so yes. Less disabled and mentally ill children in the system for other people to raise because mommy couldn’t be fucked. If everyone got ozempic and it was successful for everyone that’s still years of a 60% reduction while the medication works. Years? Are you not from the US or something? A minority of people are so spherical it takes YEARS to lose enough weigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 10:15 PM
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Literally just take Ozempic. Obesity and related complications increase all kinds of adverse outcomes for both mother and baby. It’s like if 60% of American women were addicted to meth and when someone says “yeah you should stop doing meth before getting pregnant if you don’t want adverse outcomes” you say “oh so you want us to stop having babies then???” No, I want the maternal mortality rate and preventable disease/complication rates in infants to go down. But I can’t snap my fingers and make …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 09:19 PM
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Millennial women tell me zooey deschanel, older women say liv tyler. I feel like liv tyler is probably the closer of the two, but her chin is bigger than mine, her face is overall longer, and her mouth is bigger. The eyes are pretty spot-on though, so is her usual makeup style compared to mine. A nice translucent red lip with some heavily flushed cheeks may as well be my signature at this point. Idk why but it feels like there are way less celebrities or maybe just women in general with dark hai…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 08:35 PM
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Meh. Being a healthy weight before pregnancy is the responsible thing to do for both mother and baby. I think it’s fair to say the foreseeable consequences of someone’s own actions don’t carry the same moral weight as actual tragedy. Becoming overweight during pregnancy is a different question though, as that’s usually due to some variation of a rough pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 07:55 PM
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The equivalent is a women being mad that a guy who was a bodybuilder in the past and is no longer at 5% body fat. Because he therefore isnt GiViNg HeR hIs BeSt and may of gave it to another girl. So unbelievably disrespectful am I right?! It really does sound insane when you frame it like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 04:19 AM
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Who is complaining about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:53 PM
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Not to mention wants to have sex with people who actively don't want to fuck them freely and have to be paid to. There's just something deeply gross about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:51 PM
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If you think it doesn't matter, then why date someone who would dump you and judge you over something that doesn't matter? It's not because it "doesn't matter" it's just because you don't want to be rejected. You don't have the qualities that would actually make someone look past something like that, so you just tip the scale with lies. Don't be surprised when high-value people don't stick around for that when they see how much you're actually worth. Me personally, I already found all the shit m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:43 PM
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If Timmy goes to an escort, then he is going to have to deal with the consequences of his actions with regard to how it makes women feel about him as a potential partner. That is, once again, his problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:06 PM
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Well yeah, instead of being high value, a low value man just lies to make himself appear high value. Problem is, most high-value women are going to see through that way before you’re on your deathbed lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:57 PM
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You guys aren’t as smart about hiding things as you think. Luckily, I’ll never have to date gross men like that or ones that pay for onlyfans. Low quality people can have each other until their dying day for all I care lol. Yuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:45 PM
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Offended? No. The absurdity would be pretty funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 02:44 PM
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If a guy lied about something like escorts, that would be a dealbreaker regardless of whether or not the escort thing was. I don’t care how many people lie about that stuff. I’m not tying my life to somebody like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 02:42 PM
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It never paid off to choose not to. I've been juggling the idea of escorts myself lately. If regular average women are accruing partners , then my standards will always be too high to date them unless I bring my value down to their level. Mismatch has been a big issue for me, with what I can attract and whatnot. I'm still on fence about doing escorts, just becuase thats asking for casual sex, and truly, I do not care what a woman thinks anymore of that if they are out there 'having fun'. The iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 02:22 PM
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You can always go back to Eastern Europe where you were born if you have so much trouble in Canada dating and affording a home, since I am sure both of those things are easier for someone like you there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:53 PM
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Is it extremely hard for you or not? I need you to make up your mind. If it’s not extremely hard, then what are you even whining about?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:29 PM
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If those are the majority of women you’re dating, then that sounds like a personal problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:20 PM
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Surely we can just change our culture to encourage men and women have meaningful relationships and seek out a partner for marriage or lifetime relationship? They would still avoid a man who can’t even talk to them and doesn’t have adult social skills. You realize that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:14 PM
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If you lie, then yes, you’re a liar, that’s how it works lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:11 PM
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I think the idea that something being harder is automatically undesirable despite clear benefits to doing it the harder way is a very childlike thought process and value system. For example, why on God’s green earth would I seriously date a man and go through the trials of life if he can’t even manage talking to me? Like buddy, if you think this is hard: Unfortunately, I'm awkward as fuck at meeting new people. I overthink everything. And that's why I haven't approached a woman as a romantic int…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:58 PM
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If he has paid for sex then I’m not interested in doing anything with him. He may as well be ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:51 PM
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I’m not going to sugarcoat the disgust I feel towards sex work just because it makes Timmy more cranky in his daily life. That’s primarily his problem before it’s mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:50 PM
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I would only date men I find good looking, period. Casual sex or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:46 PM
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Most people don’t want to date liars either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:44 PM
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Huh? You said would date, not has dated lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:48 AM
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Honestly yeah, if you're doing things that you're ashamed of then it's good that you stopped. Definitely healthier and safer long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:46 AM
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Entirely depends on the evidence and my son's character.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:42 AM
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I already explained elsewhere it is disgust.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:40 AM
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I have bad news, bud...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:38 AM
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You sure that's not disgust with yourself for fucking someone everyone has cummed on? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:37 AM
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That's what guns are for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:58 AM
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Sure, as long as you say you wouldn't want to fuck them either assuming you are "disgusted" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:48 AM
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I don't care if he would date an escort or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:47 AM
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Just because a guy had paid for sex doesn’t mean he’s disease ridden. No, it just means I find him disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:58 PM
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It's not "shaming." Poop is gross. Lol. This is not a controversial opinion, and if you feel shame from it then that is your own personal problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:51 PM
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1 in 5 people in the US have had an STD at some point, it’s quite common actually Gross habits being common doesn't make them less unattractive. And what’s wrong dating a guy into cucking? That's like asking what's wrong with dating a guy into diapers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:42 PM
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Same reason I wouldn't want to date someone who had STDs or multiple pregnancy scares. I find it disgusting for a dude to pay to pound a woman who has fucked a bunch of other dudes that same day. It's almost like dating a guy into cucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:28 PM
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Depends on the type of woman you want to date. Personally, I would never date a man who used escorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 08:28 PM
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Stability and comfort. I’ve got enough passion and excitement for two.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:19 AM
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Nuts that you guys just raw dog the tracking in your link on a public reddit post. ?si=UcljtMqAAub7lqEx this part is the tracking before anybody asks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 12:20 AM
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Bro posts about Esther Vilar like ugly girls post about their anime boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 11:55 PM
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Huh? Jeremy is rich, famous, and handsome and STILL is getting called weird BECAUSE of his social skills. He’s older, but you’re crazy if you think he’s ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 11:02 PM
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Are you guys on some cuck algorithm on youtube? Why are there so many threads like this lately?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 11:09 PM
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Not really? Closest thing I can think of is more the natural result of heightened playfulness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 03:20 AM
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A lot of dudes use paid options to message women who swiped left on them and like women who have them filtered in preferences. Idk about going through actual matches, but there is a lot of garbage if you're trying to filter by going through likes or messages alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:54 PM
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Wait you haven’t even had sex, how exactly would you know??? I already said this doesn’t apply to virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:32 PM
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Do you not have an ex or something? The answer to this question should be obvious unless you’re the type who only broke up after a series of screaming fights.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:52 PM
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How many truly, exceptionally creative fantasy books do you know of ? I don’t read fiction. But I highly doubt among the thousands and thousands of novels they’re MOSTLY knockoffs. You can practice imagining sex without actually having sex. Same as you can practice writing without actually acting out the scenes in the novel. The fact you don’t seem to understand how this could be the case is kind of a demonstration of my original point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:27 PM
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Yes and no? Inspiration can come from experience, but think of every piece of fantasy media you have ever seen and realize none of those people have ever seen or done real magic or met a real elf. People come up with all kinds of shit on a daily basis. I don’t think sex is some exception as long as you’re not a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:58 AM
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It is kinda crazy OP is trying to argue against the idea that men are bad and selfish in bed and then basically explained that men are disadvantaged because they’re perfectly content just using someone else’s body to masturbate. It’s giving self-report.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:30 PM
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You forgot one: imagination. Most men these days couldn’t even imagine a whole scene start to finish. They’re overly reliant on porn and other external structure and direction. Most men have zero sexual creativity and that is what makes them rigid, inflexible, and unable to adapt in new sexual situations. It’s the core foundation that they’re missing that those other things build on top of.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:16 PM
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The idea that poly people still get cheated on is low key hilarious tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:57 PM
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“Men suffer doing blue collar work because it is dangerous and physically intensive.” “Okay, let’s automate it then.” “😡”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:48 PM
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Yes. If I tried out for a basketball team and didn't know anything about basketball, then why would anyone want to play with me? If I interviewed for a job and had none of the required skills and knew nothing about the business or industry, then why would they hire me? Dating is like any other facet of life in this respect. If I walked into Wells Fargo and said "I don't know anything about money but I want you to train me to be an underwriter" they would laugh in my face and be 100% in the right…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:36 PM
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How do you solve other problems in your life? Are you always this helpless?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:32 PM
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A lot of them do struggle to make and keep friends and describe themselves in general as "lonely." That said, you are implying the personality qualities to be a good friend and good boyfriend are the same, and they're not. If they don’t have good personalities, why do they still attract women with children, women with financial problems, or women past a certain age? "If I don't have a good personality, then why do I still attract desperate women? Desperate women wouldn't go for someone despite t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:21 PM
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You shouldn’t need to see the disgust on my face to know what is socially appropriate. Observing others and learning in other ways should be enough to do at least 70% of what is required to be normal. I’ll do the last 30% with you, but only after you’ve exhausted the other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 06:05 AM
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I don’t care how he feels about my post, this is a debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 05:51 AM
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Boyfriend says: "Sexy as fuck, you teach me, A LOT. Kind and loving, you are unironically my peace. You show solid values I see in someone I would want to raise a family with. And, you make me feel secure in being my vulnerable cutiepatootie self when I grew up around a lot of women that'd call me a [slur] in a second for being that way." I guess I would say in general, I make them and their life better. That's the summary.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 12:33 AM
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I don’t date multiple people at a time so it was always exclusive. Can’t remember exactly when I was comfy saying boyfriend.. couple months? Going to be a bit over a year together by the time he moves in, but I’m not signing a new lease on a new apartment or anything. He’s just moving into my current apartment. Might do a new apartment next year if things continue looking good… we’ll see. And listen, he agrees because he wants them he’s just too scared to ask for them himself lmao!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:33 AM
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I asked him to move in with me and he said yes :3 I guess all it took to make me less avoidantly attached was a man who let me dictate the pace and level of closeness entirely. Most guys want to push for closeness and milestones the second they desire them and get angry if you’re not ready when they are. It’s really nice having someone you know will agree to whatever you want, but lets you be the one to initiate so there’s no pressure. Probably marrying his ass tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:10 AM
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I wish people understood there is a difference between self-flagellating to extract forgiveness, pity, and reassurance from the other person vs. actually empathizing with the other person in a way that centers their feelings and reassures them. It’s not “taking accountability” if you’re only interested in being forgiven. It’s a youtuber apology.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:46 AM
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? If a man is good at sex why would you not come back for more sex… I think it’s a lot more rare for a woman to abandon an attractive man who is good in bed after one night than the OP suggests.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:07 AM
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Honestly on some level having no shame is chad behavior even if it’s toxic. The alternative is somehow even more toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:00 AM
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Tbh it’s a bad idea. A lot of men are hiding sexual skeletons in their closet and won’t be honest with you about them until they think they can’t lose you anymore. You don’t want to marry some porn addict who can only get it up to Big Farting Fox Girls 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:57 AM
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It is. Don’t let the Christmas cult brainwash you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:55 AM
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Amen!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:54 AM
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The only squishmallow I own was given to me by a man...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:35 AM
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I think what all the most pathetic people you will ever deal with have in common is the inability to properly handle shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:33 AM
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Yeah yeah the boogeyman is going to get me. Woooo. So scary. Contrary to your hypothesis, it's actually poor women in unstable communities that need men to save them and value that. Women in the suburbs aren't exactly in mortal peril lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:29 AM
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Says who? Not them. And that is all that matters when they are choosing who they date. Don't like that? Too bad, because they have every right to want what they want just like you. You are not entitled to a rich woman lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:16 AM
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And all those things cost money. So of course women would care about finances. So what entitles you to disregard what women want in favor of what you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:14 AM
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You literally have no moral leg to stand on though. You're a hypocrite whining that women don't care about you beyond your finances when you don't seem to care about their lives or rights beyond your ability to romantically attract them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:11 AM
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I didn't say working. I said ability to be independent. yes so there is no benifit to equality for men, it only makes it harder and harder to be seen as a viable partner becasue there are less and elss opportunities Women are incapable of seeing men as whole people unless they earn the same, but women's rights only matter if there are benefits to men. Lol. Like I said, people who have nothing to offer besides money should at least make money. That will do you more good than trying to roll back r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:05 AM
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So because in the past women were denied the ability to be independent, you are entitled to a participation trophy in the form of a human? If women don't want you, then they don't want you. You are not entitled to their affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:59 PM
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and men have less opportunities to do so now thats the point, the opportunities continue to get more and more narrow Yeah if you're broke. And if you're broke, why shouldn't you be stuck with another broke person? Why are you entitled to more than that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:55 PM
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If the amount of money you make is the only thing limiting your dating pool, then make more money if you are unwilling to compensate in other areas. Why should you be given a pussy participation trophy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:51 PM
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If you can't even do that much, then you do not deserve a whole ass human being as your participation trophy. You're going to have to offer something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:45 PM
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If the only thing you offer is financial success, perhaps you should actually excel at that instead of expecting a woman as a workforce participation trophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:40 PM
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It's crazy to me how some of you guys seem to need it spelled out explicitly. Where are your critical thinking and problem-solving skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 10:50 PM
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You don’t have to if you don’t want to. I really don’t care. I’m 28 and have never needed a man to risk his life for me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 10:45 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lump_of_labour_fallacy Men still earn more than women on average by the way. Your personal failures dating because you are broke is not a societal problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 06:18 PM
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With women, while they are truly all unique, there are hundreds if not thousands of overlaps in their actions: shoving their feet into high heels, wearing makeup, getting their hair done; men don’t actually care about these things. And yet women are more varied in these activities than men, that is is to say, most men look more similar than women. Men are the ones scared to wear certain clothes and styles...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:06 AM
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It’s giving BPD vibes tbh. That repels stable girls just saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 08:26 PM
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The west. If you dated someone with first gen asian parents, then you would understand why.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 08:30 AM
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It depends. Some people just spit out facts, hobbies, and “interests” to fill some void where a stable and healthy personality that isn’t centered around constant stimulation-seeking should be. Are you interested in something because it is a reflection of you, or are you interested in something because it’s NOT related to you or your personal life at all and therefore stimulating? Because the latter is usually the type that turns someone into being annoying or unattractive, not the former. I rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:28 AM
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Then have a conversation or get a test in secret instead of needing literally everyone to cater to your personal insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 04:35 PM
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Troubles in dating, particularly getting first or second dates, can be the fault of the person or problems out of their control. Someone may have trouble because of their looks or money, while another may have trouble because of their horrid personalities. Are you putting money in the “problems out of their control” category? Money is the easiest to control out of everything you listed…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:34 AM
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So if a man asks for a paternity test, I should assume he is cheating on me?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:55 AM
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Well, say youre already dating this guy, or married to him, so clearly he offered something that attracted you. You knew that he plays games as a hobby, and its unreasonable to think he will suddenly change because of you. People don’t always know how these things practically affect the relationship at first. Once they become aware, they say what they want. Some people would think it’s reasonable, some unreasonable, it depends on the individual relationship and current circumstances. Would this …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:16 AM
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It’s not cheating, but some people do say it affects their relationship or behavior. My boyfriend doesn’t watch porn anymore and is very anti-porn on his own volition (my only hard rules are no interaction and that private things stay private) and he says he feels like he notices a difference in his mindset and behavior. If that is true, then I can understand why someone would insist on it in a relationship, like someone would insist on their partner being sober. It’s just compatibility like any…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:33 AM
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Good person who can’t get a date, no contest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:14 AM
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I think you’re right and they want the benefits of #2 without the responsibilities or risks of having a conversation beforehand. It’s just weird and pathetic behavior to tell other men they have to submit their DNA to a third party because these guys are too scared their wife will leave them if (in their mind) their wife thinks she can’t cheat and get away with it. I can only imagine the kind of relationships they must be in for this to seem like the reasonable solution to their problem. Poor ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:04 AM
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People can need to leave someone for reasons that aren’t due to that person’s moral character or reasons that are within anyone’s control. Multiple diseases and environmental triggers can cause psychosis, aggression, and massive behavioral changes. Preparing for unknowable future circumstances is different from reacting to circumstances that you presumably were (intimately) aware of. Like, you see your wife every day, you know who she is up to that point. You’re basically making a judgement base…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:54 AM
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I am once again asking why it's such a big deal for women to not take offense to a simple test that literally does no harm to you but brings peace of mind to your partner. If it does no harm to them, then what are they getting offended over? Come on now. Don’t be bad faith. “Caring about your partner’s feelings” goes both ways. Hence this is something that you should vet for beforehand if it is important to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:46 AM
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They don’t even have to have a conversation. They can just do it in secret. Like imagine feeling bad about going through your partner’s phone so you mandate everyone go through their partner’s phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:42 AM
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The fact that so many women react emotionally rather than logically to the suggestion of universal paternity tests reveals a lot about their empathy, or lack thereof. The fact that men would rather force everyone to hand over their genetic information instead of having a conversation with their wife or getting a paternity test by themselves reveals a lot about their social and problem-solving skills, or lack thereof. Why should my family be forced to hand over our genetic data to the government …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:36 AM
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Wise
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 09:22 PM
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…google “peterson milking porn”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:02 PM
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This. Wish I had a dollar for every time I’ve had to ask myself “is he autistic, or does he just have male social skills?”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:56 PM
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Yes I find him physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:00 AM
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What difference does it make, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:32 AM
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I really don’t see what difference it makes, honestly. You’re single either way, and that’s nobody else’s problem. What does the individual get out of being hyper-focused on who is to “blame” for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:22 AM
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Why do guys care so much about whose “fault” it is that they’re single anyway? Is it just shame?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:43 AM
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Anecdotally, I’ve had second and third dates which ended in intimacy and a real emotional connection, yet the women will often never up meet again. Do girls not get sentimental like guys? Well, if the intimacy is bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:57 PM
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Dating apps are useless since OKCupid got Tinderized. They won't even let you pay to be able to do shit you used to be able to for free...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 12:35 AM
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This. There are lots of liberal women out there who do criticize publicly. They’re just not going to show up in a redpiller’s social media algorithm because a lot of it has a “girl talk” vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:59 PM
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Empathy will not solve these issues. Imagine if women were like "oh poor guy can't get laid 😭". Would it actually solve this man's problems? No. Women will not start giving women pity sex. No, they have a variety of things that they want when they complain. What you listed is just one option. Plenty just want pity, not pity sex. Some do actually want empathy, either because they’re just trying to not deal with whatever it is alone, or because they refuse to go to someone paid to deal with their …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:34 PM
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It seems like it should be easier for you. If I had hundreds/thousands of matches, I’d just filter out the best ones, go on some dates, and see who I click with. You’re greatly underestimating how time-consuming this is with current apps. Let’s say overnight I get 1000 likes. Men swipe on women way out of their league with zero consideration for how they’re shitting up the app by wasting people’s time. That’s why most apps filter so ugly men only see ugly women after a while, but when you first …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:26 PM
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He got me a roborock s8 pro ultra for my little apartment because he knows I vacuum every day and wanted to make my daily life easier… I’m 100% marrying this one. Like damn it hasn’t even been a full year quite yet but I already know. So glad I never settled and didn’t miss out on being happy with someone like I am with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 12:12 AM
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You are both oversimplifying the functionality of sex to humans and underestimating how long humans have known that fucking is what makes babies. How and when sex results in a pregnancy is what took us forever to figure out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:30 AM
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It is pretty unisex, but for some reason every girl who played video games in like 2013 loves dragon age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 03:36 PM
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It’s a sleeper girl game tbh. Like dragon age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 03:22 PM
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are your single nerdy female women c friends attractive and why do you think they are single? The attractive ones usually aren’t single long. And the ones chronically single are mainly single because they either don’t want to date (divorced etc) or can’t find anyone they really like. A lot of them are bi too so it’s not just because they can’t find a guy they like. FF is a prime “she’s cute but has some anxiety disorder” game tbh. Lots of weeby women too which is always a mixed bag. I just play …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 03:10 PM
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It is. Same rules apply as wow though. Assume every cat girl is a dude until proven otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:55 PM
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Having mostly nerdy single female friends in their 30’s kinda sucks. I feel like I’m kicking a baby every time I talk about how sweet my boyfriend is and all the cute little things we do together. And now they want to hardcore raid in ff 10.5 hours a week including Friday and Sunday nights when the new ultimate comes out because of fucking girl drama. Why can’t we just do something fun for a reasonable amount of time in a way that won’t make my ass hurt from sitting for so long… and why did they…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:41 PM
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Because chad and stacy just swing. They don’t identify as polyamorous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:04 PM
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I personally don't see a problem with being in a relationship with a woman who is intensely physically attracted to me. It's only a problem if her attraction doesn't go beyond those things, but that's an entirely different discussion I feel like. I would say this sentiment is probably the case for both genders, but women in general are more insecure about guys only being with them because of their body or to fuck them which is probably why OP has that impression. It’s not usually a “fetishizatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:00 AM
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Same. That’s rough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:23 AM
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Agree and then ghost? Either they just didn't really care, or there is something that stands out to them that they are afraid of looking like assholes for mentioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:45 PM
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You are the one refusing to provide a counter argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:37 PM
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I’m not sharing anything because I wanted to see if you would actually know what you’re talking about. What are u gonna do if I say anything? Critique me? Are you lost? This is a debate subreddit. It's called engaging with the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:29 PM
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So no, you don’t want to share what you think gets girls that isn’t included in the list I gave. Color me shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:08 PM
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If that was true then you wouldn’t be disputing what I’m saying lol. You wanna tell me your secret to getting women, champ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:55 PM
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I’m not interested in fucking women so I’m not going to waste my time trying to. You’re the one trying to fuck women, how about you do the things listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:37 PM
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Put effort into having a sexually attractive appearance, have good social skills, have a relaxed and friendly demeanor that is from genuine happiness and not from insecure social submission, be good at flirting, know what you’re doing in bed and how to escalate, general theory of mind skills, don’t have major red flags like being unemployed or having an untreated or apparent mental illness, be fun to be around and be someone people desire to see again. None of this is a secret. Half of it is jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:25 PM
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If it slowed me down it still wouldn’t stop me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:21 PM
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I could have a harem of women right now as a woman. I’m pretty sure it would be the same as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:16 PM
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Their social role? I’m pretty indifferent. I’m not interested in having a male body or fucking women though, which is the only way having an entirely male social role makes sense to me. That said, I don’t think it would be hard for me to do well under those conditions in a world where I did want those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:29 AM
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In my experience, their single friends won’t let them play matchmaker lol. They want to do it all on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:56 PM
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Tbh I usually assume most American men who really believe “men don’t care” either are poor or grew up poor. Those are about the only men I know who actually “don’t care.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:23 PM
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I think the issue is visibility. The women who are visible in spaces like apps and bars. I think it’s this too. I’m not into sporty frat boys, but I also don’t really go to bars or try to pick up guys there. Neither do any of my friends. They’re single, but they may as well be off the market since they’re not really putting themselves out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:15 PM
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10-15% depending on location.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:15 PM
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NEVER. In my 40 years on this planet, i have never heard a man brag about his woman in any way related to those achievments. It's ridiculous to think that. Well idk what to tell you other than I have heard them do it, for millennials at least. You see this? Postgrad women are less desirable than college level educated women. …who are more attractive than high school only. That’s basically the exact point I was making - they want someone who has achievements, education, and money, just not so muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:45 PM
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It’s going to depend on the individual single man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 11:20 PM
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Men who want to earn more do not pick a woman who earns more becuase of "well hypergamy". They absolutely do desire women who make more money or have more impressive professional titles - at least in the US. Men pretty highly value things that enhance their status, and a partner with higher status is one of those things. They brag about her income/titles/achievements basically the same way women do with men. The only problem with this strategy is that it makes them personally feel less than in c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:00 PM
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I don't mind what it says, i do mind that it's shaky amount of samples is being used to broad stroke millions of people. Multiple studies have shown that LGB people are less inclined towards monogamy than heterosexual people. I know you know this, and you have even stated in the past: Cheating rates among gay men are really high. They're really high for men in general(as well as also just high in general), so this isn't an attack on gay men; almost every study that's taken the time to seperate g…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:24 PM
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I don’t think the majority or even a very big chunk at all is actually due to sexual competition. When it is, then it’s usually one very specific group of people, and those people are porn-broken. And it’s usually specifically African refugees they are talking about. Every now and then I come across bizarre porn subreddits. Titles like: “Ireland is refugee property now” and “Swedish girls love African refugees~” … yeah. And if you’re an ancient 4channer, then you know what /gif/ turned into once…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:53 PM
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I guess I finally broke through the defenses? Wonder what flipped the switch. Oh and shes currently dating somebody else btw Other guy did something that pissed her off
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:22 PM
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Basically this. Consider, OP, in the age where a woman can have thousands of likes on apps in a couple days, why does she feel the need to pander? Why would someone not snatch her up and hang onto her? (At least in my experience, these girls are usually chronically single and/or being rejected by losers) It’s a trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:15 PM
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I wouldn’t really want to date someone too far over 30 to begin with but I would be open to someone my age with inexperience depending on why they’re inexperienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:54 PM
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Does it being a nationally representative sample somehow negate the fact that it's still a remarkably low sample size? YES. THAT IS WHY THE FINDINGS ARE STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT. Holy fuck. I know you know how bisexuals are about monogamy compared to heterosexual people. You don’t have any data to the contrary. Just say that you don’t like what it says about people like yourself and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:27 PM
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There isn’t anything inherently submissive about getting pegged. Dudes have probably been shoving things in their ass out of pure curiosity since before civilization. Also, a man is still “a man” even if he is submissive, both inside the bedroom and outside of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:52 AM
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58, because it is a nationally representative sample. Again. If you have any evidence you want to present to the contrary that shows they actually cheat at similar rates to heterosexual people, go right ahead and post it. But you don’t have any.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:37 AM
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The study says there was 58 bisexual people with 8 reporting cheating. Do you really think that 8 people(across men and women) is actually workable evidence? You don't understand what a nationally representative sample is. This sample actually oversampled LGBT respondents and weighted the results. This is why the p value for bisexual non-consensual monogamy was p < 0.05 and: Gay/lesbian and bisexual participants were less likely to report monogamy and more likely to report both CNM and NCNM (p <…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:06 AM
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The heterosexual, homosexual & bisexual male categories all had a higher rate than the female equivalents. The difference between bisexual and heterosexual men is greater than the difference between heterosexual men and heterosexual women. And the same goes for bisexual women, albeit a lot less. I repeat: do you have any statistical evidence that says bisexual men do not cheat more than heterosexual men? Because I’m pretty confident that you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 10:05 PM
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Well I have shown evidence that they do have a higher rate of infidelity based on a nationally representative sample. Can you show any evidence that they don't have a higher rate of infidelity that is even close to the same quality?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:55 PM
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For bisexual men it is. <image> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29696552/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:46 PM
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I am, but I understand why someone wouldn't. Are bi men seen as less masculine in a way that doesn't seem to affect women's feminity? For some, it is that. But I see more: Is it a fear of STDs? Stereotypes about bi people being promiscuous? Insecurity about not being able to fulfill all their desires? I don't think I need to link STD statistics since everyone knows that one, but here are some statistics for bisexual men and women in regards to intimate partner violence, forced sex, and infidelit…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:32 PM
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Conversation is basically unavoidable in a relationship. Some people would prefer those conversations be productive, insightful, and interesting, and there is usually a higher likelihood of that happening with someone intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:08 PM
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Yeah, I definitely think some of that is in play when people complain that the people they’re attracted to aren’t attracted to them. That said, I think you’re underestimating how aggression plays into men overestimating themselves. There’s research that demonstrates that men become more aggressive when there are “objective” measures that say their female partner is better than them on metrics like income and intelligence, and I imagine the same would go for looks. I want to say I have seen resea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:46 PM
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It's a keratin treatment. Like a very expensive conditioner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:24 AM
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Just enough layers to show off the $300 color service because everyone needs a balayage in 2024. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:37 AM
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<image> My favorite part of finding a new hair salon is viewing the gallery to see if they can actually cut hair and there's just 50 different colors of this exact hairstyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:17 AM
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Honestly when you consider that most men are overestimating their attractiveness (which likely then affects their overall effort invested in their appearance as well as the type of woman they think they deserve) it starts making sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 08:25 PM
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What does an “average” attractiveness man and woman look like to you guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 08:13 PM
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+1 for nuance even if it was a long post. And you’re right. The lack of personal agency that the women repeatedly “stuck” in situationships have is not some tragedy that has befallen them. It’s just the consequence of their character.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:50 PM
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If you don’t have an argument, then just say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:37 PM
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If they're doing that, then they may as well date 10-15 years older though. If attractiveness is out the window, then why not just date someone who has a higher income and lower sex drive? I can't imagine what an unattractive man in his late 20's and 30's has that an unattractive man in his 40's or 50's doesn't have more of. That's why the standard gold digging advice is just date an older man, not some mid introvert your own age who makes 30% more than you. Attraction is pretty important and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:16 AM
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If a woman is ok with having casual sex but does not want you to have it with you, she doesn’t find you as desirable sexually. If women were men, then this would make sense. Women are not men, and raw sexual attraction is not the only determining factor that decides if a woman has sex with a man. It’s a bad idea to have casual sex with someone you see yourself getting emotionally attached to before you know if they are sticking around or worth keeping around long-term. That is how you get hurt e…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:41 AM
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I think a lot of this is informed by your assumptions and fears more than anything. So, you're average woman, we'll call Jane, would never really want to bang a guy like Billy right away because there's not enough visceral attraction to promote enough initial desire for her to want to do that. A woman can be attracted to a man and still want to wait to have sex with him. If he’s a man she actually thinks she will get emotionally attached to, then this is a smart option in the short-term to prote…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:58 PM
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It keeps other men at bay when your man is there with you, but not much otherwise. I don’t really notice other women being more interested in the man I’m with, but I do notice that sometimes they’re nicer to me for some reason. Personally, if I know a man is taken or if one of my friends likes him, he is romantically and sexually dead to me even for a while after his status changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:10 PM
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I think it can go either way. I've had more positive experiences with male doctors than female doctors in general. One thing I have noticed is that sometimes female boomer/gen x women in healthcare talk down to younger people who have a more "endearing" personality or vulnerable vibe. I think it can lead to them unintentionally dismissing someone's concerns because they're subconsciously viewing them through a maternal lens.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:01 AM
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I don't know if the California accent is bad or if it just makes people sound less intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:53 AM
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Your siri voice is your voicemail box voice if you use the default voicemail option btw
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:52 AM
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Probably because they come out when we're angry...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:51 AM
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It's brat summer
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:50 AM
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They're in the supplementary material here. Questions are marked as either comprehension or mental state reasoning, except for #1 which is supposed to test for<span class="md-spoiler-text">whether or not someone makes a spontaneous inference about the characters' mental states when summarizing the story in their own words.</span>
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:43 AM
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Is "You know everything" an insult in this context? I mean yeah? In context with the next few lines it kinda sounds like he was trying to call her a know-it-all: "Oh, Nick, please cut it out! Please, please don't be that way!" "I can't help it," Nick said. "You do. You know everything. That's the trouble. You know you do." Marjorie did not say anything. "I've taught you everything. You know you do. What don't you know, anyway?" Also she asked him what was wrong and he said he didn't know, but he…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:39 AM
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I like this theory better than the one where he's gay for Bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:40 AM
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Ah yeah, in the way the test was actually given the questions are more of an open response type that is later scored based on that key. So it totally went over my head that this was an attempt to provoke her into a fight lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:39 AM
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He was definitely trying to break up with her based on details from the whole story. It was a pre-planned thing for this outing. I think most of the dread came from that, but idk I haven't read any of the other stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:35 AM
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Hmm. Yeah, I guess I just have trouble with the "wants to break up and is being moody" = "actively trying to provoke a fight to blame the other person for the breakup" part.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:20 AM
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This is the entire short story
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:51 PM
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How do you tell when someone is trying to pick a fight? https://preview.redd.it/57ddc2l7ebid1.png?width=768&format=png&auto=webp&s=7fb5218eee8c7eac20e631f987ec007b907d7b90 I was reading some examples of hinting tasks that try to measure mental state reasoning ability, and this one in particular used "The End of Something" by Hemingway. The question is: Why does Nick say to Marjorie, “You know everything”? And the answers/scores are: 2 – He’s being sarcastic/cynical/intentionally mean AND wants t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:20 PM
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If his teeth are causing any kind of disease or bite issues then he probably shouldn’t care how it will affect dating in the short-term. Otherwise, depends on what kind of braces and how visible they are. But if he’s attractive otherwise, then it’s unlikely to be a big issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:31 PM
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Tfw vampires aren’t real 🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:12 PM
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Idk when I was in Germany it was pretty nice. I think how much you would prefer richer Euro countries to the US depends on your level of consumerism rather than your standard of living.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:11 PM
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Got me imagining dudes coming across women tagged with [Uncommon] [Rare] [Unique] [Legendary]
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:07 PM
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General Loneliness: A 2021 study by the Harvard Graduate School of Education found that 61% of Americans reported feeling lonely, with men being more likely to experience loneliness than women. Among men aged 18-24, this number was even higher, with around 68% reporting significant loneliness. I don’t see that figure in their report. Friendship Decline: A 2021 American Perspectives Survey revealed that the percentage of men without any close friends had quintupled since 1990. In 1990, only 3% of…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 09:30 PM
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Ok so it's "men just want one thing and it's fucking disgusting" mentality? No, it’s: They put romance in lots of media targeted at men though. The hero's journey doesn't seem to be complete without pussy at the end. There's plenty of stuff in novels that's basically male erotica but not labeled as such too. The Dresden Files comes to mind. You good bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:19 PM
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My point being that this statement: They don’t care for romantic fiction, but care heavily about pursuing intimacy and relationships in real life. Is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:59 PM
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Yes, “getting the girl” is frequently inserted into stories that are not primarily about romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:54 PM
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around 73% of women are attracted to lean muscular men (that is "lean and muscly" by todays standards which are the equivalent of how a a professional bodybuilder looked 100 years ago). Where did you get this 73% statistic, OP? It’s not in your link.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:52 PM
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Why are women drawn to romantic movies/books, yet appear almost completely disinterested in real life romance? I would say most women are interested in real life romance. It's just hard to come by sustainable, quality romance for most women dating early 20's men. When you find the right man though, it's better than fiction. They don’t care for romantic fiction, but care heavily about pursuing intimacy and relationships in real life. They put romance in lots of media targeted at men though. The h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:55 AM
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Don't know. Never used a female condom and would probably be more confused if anything about why a guy would be whipping one out since male condoms are more common and lots of people don't even know what a female condom is. We're told, and told, and told, that male condoms are what responsible people do. But, they don't protect men from herpes/HPV when we give oral. Wouldn't a dental dam be the better choice than any type of condom for this? I'm a straight guy, mid 30s, and I was intrigued about…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:22 AM
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Paul has to go to an interview and he's running late. While he's cleaning his shoes he says to his wife, Jane: "I want to wear that blue shirt, but its very creased." Question: What is Paul trying to communicate when he says this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:57 AM
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https://youtu.be/Li2Kt4DtUdY
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 09:40 PM
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Anybody who sends a redditcares is just admitting they lost the argument imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 09:28 PM
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Depends how important the ring is to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 09:27 PM
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Save it for your girlfriend dude, this is a debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 04:41 PM
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Extremely dramatic and autofellating way to say you have no argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 03:15 PM
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Not a good sign when you can't get through one sentence without becoming emotionally reactive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 02:22 PM
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Not to mentally healthy and emotionally mature women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 07:02 AM
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No I'm not. What an absurd claim lol You did. I quoted it. I will quote it again: For women who are not misandrists and who routinely interact with men without judging them as probable predators, this method does not go very far. Such women have too much experience with how normal, harmless men orient their lives and connect with women romantically or otherwise. You said that women who interact with men "without judging them as probable predators" are safer because "Such women have too much expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:42 PM
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And it is behavior which is effective at defending against interspecies predation. It does not seem as well suited for defending against social/sexual predators who belong to the same species. In humans, our most dangerous natural predator is other humans and we also have built-in instincts that are there to protect us from other humans. It's extremely rare for other mammals to murder their mates intentionally the way that humans do, but other animals still usually have instincts to protect them…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 09:15 PM
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The same way that if you are looking out for a predator in the jungle, and you perceive everything in the jungle to be a danger to you, then you will not be able to spot the true danger. Funny then how lots of prey animals in the wild are instinctually inclined towards over-reacting to potentially threatening stimuli. It’s almost like that’s literally adaptive behavior in the presence of predators. My birds freak out when they hear a plastic bag rustle or see power cables move because these trig…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:52 AM
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For women who are not misandrists and who routinely interact with men without judging them as probable predators, this method does not go very far. Such women have too much experience with how normal, harmless men orient their lives and connect with women romantically or otherwise. You are conflating experience with men with a positive view of them and a healthy relationship with them. You could just as easily make the argument that women who see men as inherently safe until proven otherwise are…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:32 AM
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How? First, by turning the entire male population into cover and camoflauge for the predator. By assuming all men are a roughly equal risk, an environment is created where misandrist women are not trying to discern between normal and predatory men. The men are all the same, so they all get the same scrutiny. Which leads to the next labor the misandrist performs for the predator's benefit... The last thing it does for the predator's benefit is that it gives them everything they need to present th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:25 PM
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The majority of dudes in the military are just going to survive and be hot. Good luck competing with them when the war is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:10 PM
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Counterpoint: men in uniforms are hot
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:58 PM
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and gives them "ick" Well yeah, their hetero female partners aren’t likely to be on PrEP.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:08 AM
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You are willingly getting used for sex by men out of your league and being tossed aside for the next high value man to have his turn. You frame women having sex with HVM as an ultimately negative experience where they're just passively being used and not enjoying it, but then worry about being settled for and not measuring up to her experiences with them...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 09:07 PM
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Its well known how much women dislike bi-sexual men. They will judge men based off their past with other men with no issue but when men do the same its an problem. How do they rationalize this? I can think of a few ways lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:46 PM
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No, you are the one confusing drama for passion. You can be exciting, romantic, and passionate without fighting or playing games. You can get a thrill without doing something “bad.” You simply don’t have those skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:42 PM
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You’re supposed to cat call other men, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:34 PM
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All my asian friends have first gen immigrant parents and they were allowed to be unsupervised in public as teenagers. They just weren’t allowed to be delinquents. No wonder you see yourself as oppressed and controlled by others.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:27 PM
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Nuts to think you have to be the child of an immigrant to go in public unsupervised as a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:02 PM
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What do bisexual men have to do with how women treat women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:36 AM
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and probably be more willing to date bi guys. Lol what the fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:06 AM
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Women are saying "treat us like human beings." There are two kinds of human beings/people. Women don't like how men are treating them now. So when they say the phrase , what other human group can they be referring too? I think it’s really funny and ironic that you entirely forgot about the fact that women interact with other women in this rant. Like ah yes, the two genders: how men treat men and how men treat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 05:46 AM
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This story has Valorant player energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:34 PM
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https://youtu.be/p1a_4CN4onA
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:36 PM
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It can be, but it isn’t necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:35 PM
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I don’t think it necessarily does. You can be extremely secure in yourself and simply very mistrustful of others and come to the same conclusions. See also: “I am a great guy, but women want assholes and she will not be attracted to me because she is stupid and wants an asshole instead.” You can also be extremely insecure without being mistrustful of the other person, for example: “I am not good enough for her. I am extremely lucky she is so patient with me and cares about me so much even though…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:57 AM
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I think you’re missing a pretty big part of those statements though: negative assumptions about the character and intentions of the other person in the relationship. Someone purely insecure may worry that they don’t compare to someone’s ex, but someone who is mistrustful will assume that the other person is actively fantasizing about their ex in a romantic way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:44 AM
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I would say it’s more aligned with mistrust than insecurity, but insecurity can be one of the causes of mistrust.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:35 AM
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I think this is usually a mismatch on what age you are calling “older” and what behaviors you define as “liking.” What I’m debating is the notion that older women are inherently undesirable and that nobody wants to have sex with them. Because this is basically just a strawman of what women actually say.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:16 AM
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Women are propping up this system where only a select few men get access to casual sex. It's disgustingly unfair, but women will gas light men and say nothing can be done. Why would it be unfair in your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:11 AM
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I think most people care when those things are actively being used in an unfair way. Men make more money than women and are older on average in relationships. Often times people deliberately seek a higher disparity on those metrics and compensate with other desirable qualities, and most people don’t really care unless it is unfair or otherwise actually abusive. The advice given to women to avoid these things is usually to date men their own age and to have their own income. No sane person is adv…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:04 AM
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Women talk about financial power imbalance, but this is bad too. Men now live in fear that at any moment their woman can fire up her Hinge account, or respond to a dm on IG, and can find a hot guy to fool around with within days or even hours. How is this not a scary power imbalance, and what can we as a society do to rectify it? If hundreds of men who are better than you overall as a partner are interested in your girlfriend and interested in being that better partner for her, then why is this …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:46 PM
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This is literally true though unless you’re suggesting that people with power will always abuse it. It comes down to individual character in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 09:13 PM
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Why do we have to always tell you instead of asking you? People-pleasers, choice fatigue, and/or they are just submissive in general in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:11 AM
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I literally asked you to name any of these things and you missed that I guess? You… don’t know what sexualization is at all in relation to men? All right then. Here are some examples that are dressed specifically to be sexually objectified by women: These outfits are sexualized This guy specifically switches from a normal outfit and vibe to a sexualized one in most of his posts And there’s plenty of men in music who sexualize themselves. Damiano of Måneskin, Ross Lynch, Dave Gahan of Depeche Mod…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:47 PM
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Getting pumped and dumped is not a flex for a woman This does not happen just because a girl is more attractive with makeup than without. You are free to post evidence that pumping and dumping due to this is some widespread phenomenon, but it’s not and you haven’t, and you would know this if you had experience. This is because even for mid ugly women, a woman who is attractive to men 50% of the time is worth more than a man who is attractive to women 0% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:52 AM
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Says I have no argument, doesn't respond to my argument. Someone who can inspire desire 50% of the time is still better than someone who can inspire desire 0% of the time. You can ignore it, but it's still true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:03 AM
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No example? No story? Not even specifics of what behaviors you are talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:05 AM
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Eh, the same applies to the men who aren’t in the picture. People just don’t take who they have children with and their responsibility to those children seriously enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:29 PM
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You wanna explain what you’re referring to or…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:13 PM
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Correct, it doesn’t make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:09 PM
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That… doesn’t make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:53 PM
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Men don’t end up with women they are “madly in love” with because that state causes them to behave in ways that are super undesirable to women today. Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:41 PM
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On the contrary, and people aren’t going to like this, single mothers are usually people who aren’t good at picking men or making long-term decisions. Maybe she grew, maybe this time is different, but that is unlikely - especially if her kids are small.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:32 PM
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Can we please make an r/PPDIndia or something for these people
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:20 PM
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The majority of women spend their teens and 20's "dating" a minority of men, end up angry, and bitter when they fail at locking any one of them down, end up "settling" for guy that's actually her match, and make his life miserable by resenting him for the rest of her life Chronically online take. Just shaming tactics, zero arguments And doesn't deny what I said is true. Again, why does this point keep flying over people's heads? There is a difference between grooming, and painting an entirely di…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:07 PM
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Makeup is a different matter though. Even the "natural" type look women commonly wear is pretty apparent if you are close enough to them and spending enough time looking at their face. All first dates that I've been on, I could tell they were wearing at least some makeup within the first 10 minutes. I assume it would be even quicker for women to notice given their greater experience. First meeting on a first date? 100% chance she'd notice and yeah, you're not in chemistry/compatability territory…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:50 PM
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It can be either one. Because being sexualized is extremely tied to modern femininity, unlike masculinity which seems determined to make a man’s body into a tool for other men to use instead of a sexually attractive prospect for women. And then you guys hit us with the pikachu face when we don’t find you that hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:30 PM
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Curious if there is anything outside of good hygiene, physical fitness and proper clothing. What is the most sexualized item of clothing that you own? What do you regularly do to appeal sexually to the opposite sex in your overall look? The things you list are basics for being physically attractive. They are not sexualized. Women don’t sit around masturbating to the thought of a man with a trimmed and conditioned beard. It is specifically things that sexualize a man’s appearance that men are lac…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:26 PM
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Ok, and those men are idiots. Of course men like women wearing makeup. There have been multiple blind studies conducted where men are presented with side by side pictures of women's faces to confirm this. Women are the same level of idiot when it comes to a lot of cosmetic things for men. Only one I can think of that is an exception is the extreme bodybuilder massive muscle + low bodyfat combo. Yep. But that doesn't change the fact women have more available and socially acceptable tools at their…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:42 AM
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Which is why these makeup covered women get used and dumped by the above average guys after they see them without the makeup Lol in what universe? They look real, which is why everyone is always shocked by the pictures of those women being caught without their makeup Ah I see, you're either a teenager or extremely naïve and inexperienced with women. Yeah, women put on makeup, look like completely different people, and get treated better when they look better Men don't find makeup attractive beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:13 AM
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Come on. You know this isn't about fragile masculinity, it's about broader social stigmitization. What does the gender we are trying to attract respond to? What do they like and dislike? And that dislike of men wearing makeup is enforced by women more so than men. If you're counter-argument to this claim is that a small niche of women don't care if a man wears makeup, know that the exception does not disprove the rule. There are dudes in this thread right now saying they don't like makeup on wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:05 AM
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The disparity in effort women like to grandstand on doesn't matter to men because we can see the majority of that effort is directed in using tools and products not available to men. They're not going to lynch you for walking into Sephora. It's like if there were 2 carpenters, one from a developed country with a full set of machinery, table saws, lathes, etc, and another one from a developing country who only had handtools. Your balls do not actually fall off if it does not explicitly say "for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:29 AM
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Men are generally raised to perceive the male body as "gross" to some degree. Imagine if people were raised to recognize how beautiful men can be. Wasn't it the ancient Greeks who argued that the male body is perfect while the female body is weird looking? (not that I support this view, but we're now literally promoting the opposite) Well yeah, one of the roots of that is homophobia. The other is the implicit power dynamic of one person being a sexual agent and the other being a sexual object. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:07 AM
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No, because it's fake Men prefer the look, fake or real. How fake does the average instagram model with a large male following look? Or the average girl on OnlyFans that dudes are paying to talk to? They find her more attractive than the alternative and value her more than the alternative as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:57 AM
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All people have the risk of being violent lmfao. Psychotics have a higher risk of all kinds of anti-social behavior and other behaviors that would be relationship-ending. It is a direct result of their illness, and the types of behaviors are ones that I refuse to take the risk on. There are plenty of non-psychotic people to choose from, such as the man I am with. Repressed trauma is a way, hidden red flags, are more dangerous than a person who has resolved their traumas. You can’t psychotherapy …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:49 AM
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That's why in porn they don't have bleached or styled hair, they're barefaced with no makeup, and they don't have any plastic surgery. That's why instagram models and ethots don't have those things either. Men virtue signal so hard about how much they desire women putting effort into their appearance whether artificial or real.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:36 AM
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Blue Pillers (and to an extent modern society in general) want to convince men that they're never the prize , that they should accept they're unattractive and settle for whatever woman is willing to look their way. If you want to be the prize, then put more effort than women do into your appearance and sexually objectify yourself the way that women do. You say that the main difference is the effort. Blue pillers usually say the main difference is the effort. This is only you "never being the pri…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:29 AM
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Psychotic people always have the risk of another episode. That is a risk that I am unwilling to take, period. There is nothing hypocritical about it - I am not psychotic, nor would I expect someone to be with me if I was. I don’t feel “silly” for protecting myself either, nor will I ever. And regardless of how much my unwillingness to date psychotics upsets you, my boyfriend and I have a very happy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:25 PM
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Id advise your current boyfriend to dump you based on this post. He already knows I wouldn't date someone with present or past diagnosis of a psychotic disorder. People who say things like "if x is in their past, well id have to dump them" are why people lie about their past. You found someone youre attracted to, who you're happy with (assumption), who you place arbitrary conditions on their past for continued relationship. What? Same reason I wouldn't date someone who committed DV in the past. …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:03 PM
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Bisexual men get told to lie to women about their male partner count all the time. As for whether or not it would bother me, it depends entirely on how big the lie was, the circumstances around the actual truth, how I found out the truth, if the truth actually changes anything about how I see him, and when the lie was told/when the truth came out. Finding out from friends is definitely a negative, that’s for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:51 PM
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I think it really depends what type of lie, what it’s about, when they lied, and why they lied. If they’re lying about something that is vulnerable and uncomfortable to talk about but is otherwise not something that would have made you disqualify them, then that’s one thing. If they are lying to not risk rejection or to get something out of you unfairly through deception, then that’s another. For example my current man has had some depression and anxiety issues in the past. If it came out that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:42 PM
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True and honestly I think you could say the same thing for real, highly involved fatherhood. My brother is a super involved father and always has been, but I know that the things he gets praise for from other men are mainly his career, money, and knowledge. Nobody really cares about his role as a father in comparison even though he talks about his kids a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:23 PM
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Eh, getting paid to do it is different. I could probably write some pretty deplorable stuff myself if I was paid to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:16 PM
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Yeah it’s totally understandable why it would be uncomfortable to be friends with someone who rejected you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:07 PM
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When women say they have a hard time dating is it because they are getting into relationships with men who are vague about their intentions with them? It’s a lot of different reasons. Like how many women get into long term relationships and then find out their boyfriend never wanted to marry her and she was just a placeholder? What I’m guessing happens is at some point he likely decides she isn’t the one, but doesn’t leave her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:49 PM
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Every now and then I accidentally stumble across a weird porn subreddit while searching for something else on this site. I don’t think I could ever look at a man the same if I found out that in his off time he was RPing with randoms on Reddit about “bodyswapping” into his mother to get fucked and impregnated by his father.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:13 PM
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They’re in their 20’s according to his past posts which means they have probably been together since high school if they were together 10 years. This is why settling down before you’re fully formed people who know what you want out of life is usually a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:47 PM
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MaLe AtTeNtIoN mEaNs NoThInG uNlEsS iT bEcOmEs A sErIoUs ReLaTiOnShIp *male attention means nothing unless it is someone they are attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:30 PM
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They want a warm vagina to masturbate into. If that’s all you wanted from a woman, wouldn’t all the normal standards women have seem silly too? “I just want to use your body for 15 minutes, why are you asking all this random shit from me?”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:01 PM
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I read some of her replies and he sounds like an asshole. He’d probably suck the light out of the other girl too if they were together.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:50 PM
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How long are you going to withhold sex from a guy? How long is a guy going to withhold being someone she wants to have sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:48 PM
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I was expecting like an article or a page from dworkin or something not two people on adderall talking over each other for 40 minutes. If you want to endure that, be my guest. It’s just not worth it to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:59 AM
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Which I took to mean first sexual advance, not first time meeting someone at the grocery store or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:17 AM
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You can do whatever you want, but saying you’re going to end up in jail for that is hysterical.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:58 AM
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Idk when I read that I took it in the context of the post and his other examples to mean before actually having sex with someone but after they seem interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:15 AM
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His example also including approaching a (new) woman with a vulgar display/comment like mentioning their ass or something, and how it should be considered a compliment. What? Did he say that in a separate comment or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:02 AM
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I've been here for a while and most of the posts goes like "Isn't it immature and weird for a woman to be turned off by a man voicing his sexual desires first instead of physically trying them?" (no one is obliged to try anyone if they do not want to or don't want it or you) This isn’t “feeling entitled to women.” The example he gave was literally a girl saying she wanted one thing and then getting mad when he didn’t go against her wishes and do something she explicitly told him not to do. He is…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:28 AM
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Ah yes, you’re definitely going to prison for getting a verbal “yes” to kiss someone who is clearly into it nonverbally. You don’t sound completely hysterical at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:00 AM
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I mean it does work, but it's not the only hair loss option either. Bezos is bald 100% because he wants to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:57 AM
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Basic makeup that’s more for correcting imperfections in the skin and hair? Yeah. As for resources, there are all kinds of tutorials on YouTube. A lot of the knowledge like spot correction is more gender neutral than you would think, but there are also a lot of male youtubers who do tutorials for men specifically. Often times standalone Sephoras have dudes who work there and can help you out with suggestions too, but not always.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:13 PM
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Pretty boy isn’t the only look that can be achieved with makeup. They do makeup on black actors conforming to black masculine ideals. Black skin frequently deals with hyperpigmentation issues (after you get acne or something it leaves a dark scar behind) that could probably benefit from spot concealer, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:53 PM
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End the tyranny of men growing their beards out every 6 months and then shaving it off because of a couple sparse patches. Embrace beard powder just like all the dudes in movies they’re comparing themselves to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:44 PM
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There’s all kinds of tutorials on YouTube and in books. People have been doing makeup on men for decades. You guys just aren’t required to learn it like women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:37 PM
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Basically all of the hollywood stars that older women like are wearing makeup in their photos and movies and always have. They may grow out of guyliner, but if anything men start looking less masculine and virile as they age and would be helped more by cosmetics than younger ones if we’re talking about raw attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:32 PM
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Agree. Most men in traditional media wear makeup to be more attractive. You don’t do it the same way as women, but anybody who thinks it makes no difference for men just doesn’t know how to use it properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:22 PM
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Half the time balding dudes aren’t even using rogaine. Beard, brow and hairline powder would blow their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:17 PM
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It’s not static and depends on the woman’s age and size.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:14 PM
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For me it was pretty young, maybe around 4-5 years old. My mother was afraid because of the child abductions she had heard about on the news and told me to be careful around strange men. I think most people probably get the “don’t help strange men find their lost dog” talk around that age. Edit: the age of the men depended on my own age and our physical size difference/age difference. It’s not static.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:11 PM
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Emotional regulation skills (social emotional learning does this). Making internet pornography more inaccessible to minors from a legal policy standpoint as well as including information about it in sex ed. We tell kids to tell an adult if someone touches them inappropriately and give them all kinds of tools but have zero conversations about what to do when their friend in elementary school shows them a gangbang on their phone. There is also usually zero discussion about media literacy and how r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:07 PM
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Okay nvm I’m not sitting through a 40m video
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:59 PM
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…you have any specific examples you want to post? Because if we’re thinking of the same thing then I feel like the argument in your OP is kind of a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:46 PM
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Don’t those people criticize everyone in the industry? Including women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:42 PM
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The fuck is a serf?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:17 PM
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Some of these other replies to this comment have zero game so here’s how you do it: You two are presumably already close to kissing. There are already clear IOIs that she wants to, but you want to be sure. You’re already close to each other physically and giving each other the look. You take your hand and put it under her chin to tilt her face up towards yours while maintaining eye contact. Come in close about to kiss her and stop. Look down at her lips and then back up to her eyes, then say “ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:51 PM
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I think it’s fine to verbalize what you want in a way that gives someone an opportunity to express they don’t want to, especially with new people. As for the technical reasons as for why some women are turned off by it, you can read about sexual script theory. It’s basically NPC behavior. I’ve even had one girl tell me just kiss me on the cheek and that she only kisses men she’s dating. Then later on she was confused about why I didn’t go for her lips. Um, maybe because you verbally told me some…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:29 PM
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The real red pill is that they are only going to happily consider compromise for a man they are sexually attracted to and satisfied by which doesn’t sound like you if they’re starfishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:04 PM
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Men insult people by telling them to suck their dick and then are shocked when women are uncomfortable doing it. You guys take a pleasurable act and frame it as degrading to feel masculine and then whine about the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:55 PM
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You can masturbate without pornography.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:44 PM
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No, it is not lol. Women put in more effort. Your own links contradict your statement. Just delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:36 PM
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They’re rowdy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:36 AM
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Do you think he handled the situation well? Is it believable? No, yes. How do you think she handled things? Realistic? I mean I personally wouldn’t have sat there mute the entire time but idk how well she knows louis in the movie. I probably wouldn’t stick up for a random date that instigated and then didn’t de-escalate unless the situation was actually dire, but I would intervene if I thought someone I’m actually in a relationship with was getting too hot under the collar. I do think it was rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:54 AM
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What do you actually wear that is deliberately sexy? What clothing or accessories do you own for no other reason than it being slutty looking? I don't like oils. I moisturize, and my skin is soft, but I don't like feeling greasy. If you think that or my lack in variety of underwear (a couple dozen pairs of boxer briefs) is what's making or breaking me I'd just have to laugh at you. Most women don't even get close enough to see that stuff anyways. You said the women you were in relationships with…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:11 AM
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I dress well enough that I regularly get compliments for it, groom myself well, I have good clear skin, and am in good shape. I've had several relationships before and after, and in all of them it was pretty clear these women were unhappily settling and did not have a strong sexual desire for me. I'll let you figure out for yourself where I'm actually lacking. How many outfits do you have that are exclusively to appeal sexually to women? How many pairs of undergarments? How many times have you u…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:40 AM
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The average man does not possess the genetic gifts to be considered physically desirable by women. No amount of "trying" short of plastic surgery will change this. Again, both naturally ugly and naturally attractive women put more effort into their appearance than the average man and the average man would absolutely do better if he put as much effort into his appearance as the average woman does. If you are unwilling to put effort into your physical attractiveness to the same level, then that’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:46 PM
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Why is that such a taboo idea now? The answer really depends on your age and the demographics of yourself/who you are trying to lock down. Based on your post history you may like Anno 1800 btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:15 PM
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More importantly that insolence you speak of interconnects with his political proclivities. You're not wrong lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:10 PM
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It depends on the country, but in some places there is a pretty pronounced difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:07 PM
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Bold of you to assume the resentment is political and not simply because someone is telling him he is wrong...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:05 PM
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Women don't find average men physically desirable. Average men put barely any effort into being physically desirable. You can put a wig, lipstick and a dress on a pig, but it's still gonna be a pig. And this is usually their excuse, but the truth is that being physically attractive is just not that valuable to you. Almost all women - ugly or models - improve their appearance and put a lot of time, effort, and money into it. Even women who are ugly or 250lbs go to the salon and pay $300 for a bal…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:58 PM
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Acting is also part of it but not the entirety. Female burlesque dancers don’t look like they just rolled out of bed. There are multiple components, almost none of which your average man in his early and mid 20’s possesses compared to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:03 PM
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Women don't give men who aren't already sexy the opportunity to be seductive. Women actively avoid situations where they might encounter men who might try this. It does not appeal to them. Uh huh. but have every excuse in the world for why they don’t know how to be seductive. Shit that teenage girls learn, somehow grown men who actually want to fuck can’t seem to figure out. Guess what. Being "already sexy" is part of being sexy, dude. What you're actually saying is "women don't let me try to fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:37 PM
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A lot of people actually do pierce the ears of infant and toddler girls, at least in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:25 PM
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I have seen a lot of mothers who legit did not know much about it and just went along with it because it was the norm and they assumed the doctor wouldn't offer to do something harmful to their newborn. A lot of them are very remorseful once they find out the truth and say they never would have done it if they had known. Somehow that makes it worse to me because they have to live with the fact they did something that can't be undone to their child too. It's such a preventable situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:10 PM
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100% of those links are telling you that it is due to the difference in effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:12 PM
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Well yeah, because like she said, men put less effort into their physical appearance and less effort into being sexually desirable. To physically prefer men to women as a man does come off as not entirely straight unless those men are actually putting in effort into their appearance that is comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:00 PM
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Men don't find female displays of sexuality to be disgusting, which is the equivalent in this context. Men find them attractive when those displays are directed at them. They absolutely are disgusted if they are for other men. See also: N count debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:53 PM
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I think that a lot of the women who say this are comparing their internal bar for themselves to what seems to be men’s internal bar for themselves. It’s probably harder for men to reach women’s bar now than in the past simply due to the world changing, but compared to what women expect of themselves and how much of that expectation they perceive as being for other people’s enjoyment rather than their own, men’s internal expectations for themselves seem much lower. I can say for how much time and…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:03 PM
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A lot of them are basically sex addicts or have some other psychological problem and the behavior is compulsive and/or disinhibited. At least as far as actual creeps, not just unattractive or awkward dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:44 PM
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It should be banned under 18 except as a last-resort medical procedure. Cosmetic surgery should be reserved for adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:35 PM
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You are literally projecting your own feelings of entitlement onto them. YOU are the one who feels entitled to the bf/husband privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:31 PM
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The fuck is the point of punishing someone just because they want different things than you do? They’re not lying to you, not abusing you, not trapping you in the situation. You are the one being dishonest towards them about what you are comfortable with and then engaging in coercive and passive-aggressive behavior to get things from them that they should be free to give or deny you on their own volition.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:28 PM
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Just leave instead of trying to manipulate them into giving you something that they clearly don’t want to. Pathetic behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:17 PM
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Perhaps…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:29 PM
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I can’t sleep because I keep blushing from thinking about him showing me how to soothe a baby earlier…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:24 AM
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Most likely since it's only a 3-5% difference in the non-single categories in 2022. Not sure what the pandemic differences were about though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:41 AM
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I found a different survey that is related: https://preview.redd.it/iybwhx0m6dfd1.png?width=852&format=png&auto=webp&s=b2e2132784b0fa910a4e0d8731de2a684886629f In this survey, 2020 had similar percentages to the pew one with 59% of men being single and 38% of women being single. The differences that caused this were mostly in the "Married" and "Living with Partner" categories, and that is the same trend in the 2022 data where 57% of men were single and 45% of women were. Nothing here really sugg…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:00 AM
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none of what you've said is relevant to what anyone has said. It is literally a direct comparison to what you said that I quoted: Martial arts are simulated violence, but millions of people enjoy participating in them. What type of martial arts "simulates" men beating women while they are crying and begging him to stop? If you wanted a direct comparison it would be a woman in a bdsm outfit being paraded around and slapped and choked. Go to San Francisco or London and start slapping and choking y…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:42 AM
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this is again not consensual and not what we're talking about. It is "simulated" violence and consensual. It is a direct response to your example that I quoted. I could go out in public and have the most respectful and non-violent sex in the world and it still wouldn't be socially acceptable. This is completely incoherent. They are not having sex in my example. He is simply hitting her and she is "simulating" that she is distressed by it. Again, it is a direct response to your example. I'd be ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:07 AM
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Again, female bias, if you want something, the courts will likely mandate it for you, you don't have to fight for it. If you had to fight for it you'd understand when it's time not to fight and concede that the deck is stacked against you. I would pay the 20k and fight for it if the situation required. That is a drop in the bucket compared to what most people invest in their children. If you are not invested in your children and they are not your top priority, then I could understand why you wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:01 PM
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So no, it's not based on your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:52 PM
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Lol, women giving gifts and planning dates? Haha extremely funny joke. Yes. This is extremely common and normal behavior when a woman likes a man. Lol that's even funnier. It's a well known fact that women lose attraction at the slightest hint of emotional vulnerability expressed in the wrong way. You always have to hold frame in your relationship- this is basic RP and I'm not even a RPer. Chronically online take along with your OP. Here's what actually happens: Compared to women, married men re…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:48 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 09:56 PM
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that can't be won This is moving the goalposts. Is it impossible or unlikely? Here in California the husband would often need to pay for both his lawyer and his wife's lawyer, so women have this attitude like 'No amount is too high, no stone should be unturned' because they aren't paying for it. I asked before and I will ask again - what is more important than being involved in your child's life? What is that 20k going towards that is more important than that? People have this attitude because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 09:55 PM
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The fuck is the point of having money if not to spend it on your own children and their wellbeing? They’re important enough to go through pregnancy, childbirth, breastfeeding and sleepless nights, but not important enough to spend 20k on for the chance to actually be involved beyond the occasional weekend and holiday? What else is more important than that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 08:13 PM
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How are you wishing for more emotionally driven men and the minute they get cheated on, which is one of the most emotionally devastating things a person can experience, they are supposed to be a stoic, rational god all of a sudden and they're not expected to be human about it? It’s fine to be emotional and upset. It’s not fine to adopt incorrect ideas about the world long-term just because you are emotional. It’s fine to be wary or sensitive, but it’s unattractive to be literally delusional abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:39 PM
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This doesn't mean that men don't want their kids because they don't try. It means their lawyer usually says, 'We can fight this, it will cost an additional $20k, we more than likely won't win though'. This is not trying though. I would absolutely spend 20k for a chance to be involved in my child’s life considering the alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:15 PM
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For example, do you believe in an objective morality or not? Sometimes Do you believe in sex and/or gender essentialism or not? Sometimes Are you epistemologically an empiricist, rationalist, or something else? A mixture. Do you believe in a transcendent order and set of values or not? Sometimes. Do you believe ontologically in materialism, dualism, or some other metaphysic? I didn’t take the “which scruffy european man are you” quiz and don’t particularly intend to. Do you subscribe to a certai…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:00 PM
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You can always tell when someone who hasn’t had a girlfriend makes a post here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:20 PM
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Movies show us simulated violence, but we still enjoy that. If you want a more physical example. Martial arts are simulated violence, but millions of people enjoy participating in them. Go in a public place and start hitting your girlfriend until she is crying and screaming and begging you to stop if it is so socially acceptable. In any other context it would not be an acceptable, normal behavior between two people in a relationship and it would be judged for what it is. You can make comparisons…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:04 AM
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That surely can't be a big deciding factor with 34 vs 63%. It is. Women get into serious relationships and get off the market sooner than men do, usually with a man a couple years older than her. A 20-year-old woman can seriously date a man 10 years older but not 10 years younger. The gender-revered version is much more rare. What young people define “single” or “in a relationship” as could also just be different. It’s not like there’s large swaths of men not getting any. Similar levels of women…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:08 AM
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Depends on the individuals involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:35 PM
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A nigh on even gender ratio yet a huge discrepancy in singlehood that's now backed by statistics where 60-70% of the 20s cohort women claim to be taken whilst a much, much smaller amount of men claim to be. This extends to the 30-49 cohort too though the percentages are more healthy, but there are still more single men than women in the 30-49 cohort even if Male single-Ness drops substantially. So we can't really say they're all going to older men. But I'll put it to the floor, why are a disprop…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:57 PM
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This has become a very unserious argument where you're more emotionally activated than anything else. It's entertaining, but I'll just leave with this: LOL, he just needs me to know how insecure he isn't! He said, after: You mean the lovely brat who got off birth control nearly six months ago and will not stop jumping my bones ever since? The same woman who realized how close she came to losing me and has totally revised her approach both to our relationship and to her own mental health? That wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:14 PM
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