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UK, Australia
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:05 AM
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That’s not true. Plenty of countries where prostitution is either legal or decriminalized and the dating dynamics are the same. Even in the US, prostitutes are regularly available it’s just a bit more expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:09 AM
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is this profile from seeking.com? that makes it even better
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/05/23 07:54 PM
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You might get a dick and balls drawn on your forehead if they're underage. Stay safe out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 09:19 PM
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Correct. The woman being more attractive than the man is natural law. The reverse is only true for casual sex and doesn’t work for a LTR (usually).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 12:19 AM
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Untreated BPD is highly toxic for relationships. If she doesn't get help with that, the chances are pretty slim that she would be able to maintain a healthy long-term relationship for more than two or three years.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:35 AM
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Travel is the female version of pornography. Novelty seeking behavior.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/23 06:54 PM
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Unless you're a gay man. Then you can just insert your penis through a hole in certain bathroom stalls and you're good to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:54 AM
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Saying "it's a comment on a blog" obscures the fact that it's a potentially legitimate analysis of 17,000 datapoints. The analysis is either correct or incorrect. The data is either a valid sample or invalid. The analysis being posted as a comment to a blog is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 12:53 AM
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You said the blog is wrong because it bashes women not because the data is incorrect. It's a poisoning the well fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 11:45 PM
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The same authors said it's closer to 5 to 1 in "recent history". It's a solid datapoint, not a slam dunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 08:32 PM
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https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 08:31 PM
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Those same authors have said it's closer to 5 to 1 in "recent times".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 08:28 PM
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This is from an analysis of ~17,000 hookups between college students in 2010: The results: The top 2.6% of men are responsible for 29% of the hookups. The top 5.4% are responsible for 40% of the hookups. The top 28% of the men are responsible for 78% of the hookups. These statistics are for Fall 2010. Although it's rare, whenever actual hard data comes along it always confirms the 80/20 rule. It's even in our genetic record. 80/20 is absolutely real. Reference: https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 07:46 PM
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Growth mindset. Likes reading and learning new skills. Proactive about managing negative emotions with therapy, meditation, yoga, etc. Able to forgive and move on. Disciplined about physical fitness, diet and alcohol use. Good with money. Sexually open-minded. Also, is proactive about it. Doesn't just say "I'll do whatever you want" but watches porn for ideas, maybe finds a girlfriend for a threesome, etc. Cheerful. Kind. Not entitled. Hard working. Loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:41 PM
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Men have more sexual partners than women on average. A statement like this is how you know these types of surveys and analysis contain bad research methodology, not an accurate sample or are just plain BS, etc. It's not mathematically possible for men to have more sexual partners on average than women. For every man that is having sex with a woman, there is also a woman having sex with a man. So, one would expect that the average should be identical. I realize that this particular survey was for…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 07:12 AM
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Do something difficult. The more difficult the better. It almost doesn't matter what it is. The repeated experience of being in dark places mentally and physically and then pushing through them using pure willpower will give you more confidence to deal with other areas of your life. I would suggest jiu-jitsu but it could be plenty of other things.. outdoor rock climbing, public speaking or standup comedy, a sales job where you cold call people 100 times a day, extreme discipline with diet and sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 11:20 AM
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You mean these sexy VS babes? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_YVmJY2WTc I jest. You are correct though. High fashion models are targeted at women not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 10:36 AM
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Guys, she deserves a life of leisure now... after the previous 30 years of leisure, she's earned it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/23 09:21 PM
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Not just red pill fathers, with any close relatives it is common to see one sex flip to the optimal strategy of the opposite sex. This is due to close relatives sharing DNA and making such behavior fitness maximizing. Examples include: Playboy brother engaging in sexual gatekeeping with his sister / encouraging her to be sexually conservative, etc. A mother telling her son not to get married too soon, go "have some fun" first, etc. There's endless examples of this. Has nothing to do with RP ideo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 09:02 PM
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I'm a man but just offering my genuine advice. You seem self-absorbed. Maybe start with some ego minimization strategies like yoga, meditation and studying Buddhism. After you work on your mindset for a while and if you still haven't met someone then spend some time in a big city (ideally on the East Coast if it's in the US).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 01:50 AM
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That survey says 5-10% “on any given weekend”. Also, women routinely lie on these types of surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:30 PM
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99% of human history was polygynous. We are currently in the process of reversion to the mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 06:29 PM
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This will be solved by genetic engineering, at least for rich people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 08:09 PM
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Largest imbalance of single women to single men. Cities on the West Coast are the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 02:13 AM
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Can confirm that NYC is the easiest it gets for men in America. Back in the day when I was hanging with my cousin and his nerdy friends there, they were always talking about the different girls they were juggling and which one was hotter, etc. They would have all been near incels in SF.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 12:37 AM
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It's probably not any better but single dads are an anomaly for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:14 AM
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if you can post all of this stuff on reddit, you can work. how about a remote customer service job?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:29 AM
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Right, I'm just saying that their bad choices frequently have more negative consequences than it does for men. There's also violent men, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:14 AM
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If it's so easy for them to lose weight then why can't you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:07 AM
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For every advantage that women seemingly have, there is a corresponding disadvantage. Women may have it easier in dating but being a single mother is often a miserable and poverty-stricken life. They have a lot of choices but if they make a bad choice it can ruin their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:04 AM
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IMO, it's not a life sentence but only if an individual woman takes active responsibility for her own mood and mental health. Things like therapy, meditation, diet, yoga, journaling, exercise can all make a big difference but it needs to be a personal journey and responsibility. Unfortunately, people in general are allergic to responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:57 AM
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GEI score is correlated with per-capita GDP I believe so could be some confounding variables here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:26 PM
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Women are primarily attracted to status. Money is often a secondary effect of being high status but not always. It's possible to be a rich and low status man. Examples include rich autistic computer nerd and trust fund burnout.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:54 PM
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Did Yahweh smile down on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 03:10 PM
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BC pill is 99.9% effective not just 99% and that's on a yearly basis. That means a man would need to have sex with a woman properly taking the pill for 500 years before having a 50% chance of a pregnancy occurring. If a woman tells you she accidentally got pregnant while taking the pill, she's probably lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 10:22 PM
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An interesting graph I found from a meta-analysis of personality traits a couple years ago: https://imgur.com/a/2tnLawM -- it graphs the Big Five personality traits for men and women against the Gender Equality Index score for the country in which the data was gathered in. The sample size is large as the study aggregated data from many other studies. Something unexpected (and darkly amusing) about this data is that women's measurement for Neuroticism (propensity to experience negative emotion) i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 08:48 PM
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Wondering more about how you discovered and addressed the underlying issues since I'm in a similar boat. Mind if I DM you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 02:05 AM
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Yes but a man who knows how to have sex and also has a big dick is the pinnacle. Similarly, a Stradivarius will only make a difference in the hands of a virtuoso.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 08:47 AM
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50% of your assets at the time of divorce plus alimony for life after that is more than 50% of your money at the time of divorce. Potentially way more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:01 PM
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In many US states, the lesser earning spouse can be awarded alimony FOR LIFE after 10 years of marriage. That's after assets are divided in half. So yeah.. it can easily be more than 50%.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:28 AM
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Evo psych is not bullshit. If living in society for thousands of years were enough to override our caveman psychology, then people would be more innately afraid of riding motorcycles than snakes and spiders. Men would be aroused more by donating sperm to fertility clinics than by pornography.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:22 AM
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This is just my own humble opinion. On the surface it seems that women are complicated to understand because what makes an individual women aroused / attracted to you / happy seems so random and different from woman to woman. The reality is that all women are plagued by random negative thoughts and emotions (capital-N Neuroticism) which throws a chaotic wrench into everything. It's just emotional chaos and not any kind of organized complexity that is even possible to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 02:06 AM
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Semen contains testosterone and testosterone improves sense of well-being so it's at least plausible this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:06 AM
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truth
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:30 PM
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It's also possible to eat a sandwich without mayonnaise and mustard but it's definitely less enjoyable that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 11:35 PM
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They found that 50 was the peak all else being equal. Here's another link: https://bigthink.com/culture-religion/study-women-peak-at-18-on-dating-apps-men-peak-at-50/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:51 PM
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It's more like 35-50. I personally thought it was late 30s but there's some hard data that implies it's later than this. It makes sense that a man's attractiveness peak would be where his income is as high as possible but before any sort of physical decline begins.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:13 PM
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Biologists believe that most (but, of course, not all) of this was consensual as the women involved would have had male relatives willing to use violence to defend them from other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:09 PM
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That only addresses the spike to as high as 17 to 1 after agriculture not the 4 to 1 average before that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:02 PM
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I think it was a Gad Saad video I watched once where he said an analysis of romance novels revealed that the top five male protagonists were: doctor lawyer tycoon vampire werewolf
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:19 PM
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Honest question, do you live in or near a major city like NYC or San Francisco? I'm mainly answering from the perspective of someone living in such places. I would definitely agree that people seem to settle down sooner in Middle America.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:43 PM
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From what I've seen, most physicians that have kids under 40 are married to other physicians. I wouldn't be surprised if the male physicians that aren't with other physicians follow a similar pattern to what I'm describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:22 PM
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I'm glad that worked out for you. What's the point of asking men for their good-faith opinions on these topics only to use personal anecdotes as counter-arguments though?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:19 PM
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Generally speaking, I think educated and successful men are less interesting in settling down before 35, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 10:25 PM
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That's exactly my point. I said OP should consider men 38-40 and not early 30s men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 10:22 PM
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Perhaps. But if he's high quality he'd probably pick a 25 year-old in order to have less time pressure on starting a family. An older man would be more willing to have an accelerated timeline which is why it's potentially worth considering for the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 08:46 PM
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30 year-old women are more or less just as attractive as 25 year-olds. The problem is that getting asked about kids on a first or second date or knowing that if she "accidentally" gets pregnant she'll probably keep it are both boner killers. You should probably at least consider dating men 8-10 years older if you're serious about settling down and starting a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:33 PM
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It's because of cognitive dissonance. If you look in the mirror every day and see an overweight person, it's much easier to accept psychologically that you're normal and beautiful instead of being lazy, fat and much less attractive than you could be if you had more self-discipline.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:24 PM
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10 years or above just doesn't work... until women enter the real world of being older than 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:08 PM
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I'm 42 and you seem to be incorrect: https://i.redd.it/5g28arqq1rpy.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 01:08 AM
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If anything, the distribution is probably more skewed now than then due to dating apps, social media and airfare being much cheaper. I'm sure there's plenty of current celebrities that are racking up 4 and 5 digit numbers and just haven't spilled the beans yet. Not sure what your point is. It's still basically the same world when it comes to the topic we're discussing on this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 12:03 AM
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Wilt Chamberlain claimed to have had sex with 20,000 women. Even if it's less than that, the number is still in the 4 or 5 figures. Gene Simmons claimed 3,000 women. The list goes on. Maybe women in their late 20s and 30s settle down with a single guy but there's plenty of plausible anecdotal and dating app evidence that supports the 80/20 rule. At least in terms of distribution of total sexual partners for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 05:13 AM
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Fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:23 PM
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Sure.. I'm just paraphrasing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:19 PM
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That's my point. Women are much more likely to be heteroflexible than men. Hence, they are less likely to be homophobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:18 PM
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You asked why women aren't homophobic. It's because women evolved to be mildly homosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:39 PM
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Divergence from exclusive heterosexual orientation is commonly observed in women. Understanding this phenomenon requires exploring it from an evolutionary perspective, which in turn entails knowledge of human evolutionary history, particularly with respect to mating patterns. The anthropological and historical records indicate that during most of the human evolutionary time, mate choice was regulated, with parental and social control being directed predominantly toward women. Strong control over…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:09 AM
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/301694949\_The\_Evolution\_of\_Female\_Same-Sex\_Attractions\_The\_Weak\_Selection\_Pressures\_Hypothesis
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 09:52 PM
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Well, it’s different for every couple and I think both men and women should be more open-minded. Some non-sexual examples might be: accepting that men want more time alone and don’t want to constantly hear women venting about their negative emotions.. women should take more responsibility to manage their negative emotions (via things like yoga, meditation and therapy) without needing to always vent to their partner. Women should accept that men need to go out with their friends, spend time alone…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 09:04 PM
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- Gay marriages have the lowest divorce rate. Lesbian marriages have the highest. Corollary: the more women in a relationship, the more likely that it is to fail. My personal theory is this is due to women having higher levels of Neuroticism (defined as propensity to experience negative emotion). - On r/deadbedrooms there are plenty of MF couples and sometimes FF couples but very rarely MM couples. Corollary: dead bedrooms are mostly caused by women. - Gay men have roughly (based on various thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:09 PM
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I agree his writing is barely comprehensible but the "dick healing effect" is actually real lol. see: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2457-semen-acts-as-an-anti-depressant/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:59 PM
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Proximate versus ultimate causation in evolution. People are scared of snakes because "they're scary" (proximate cause) but the psychology exists because their ancestors were also afraid of snakes and, because of this, were more likely to pass on their genes and their contemporaries (ultimate cause).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:24 AM
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I mostly agree with you I just think the hard cutoff is closer to 20 years than 10. Even then, it’s dependent on the age of the man. Nobody (men, at least) would bat an eye at 60 year old man with a 40 year old woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 09:07 AM
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Maybe for very young women that's true but anything over 23 and other men would just be jealous and any "judgement" from them would be a cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 06:29 PM
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Incorrect: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/style/dating-apps-online-men-women-age.html "The researchers determined that while men’s sexual desirability peaks at age 50, women’s starts high at 18 and falls from there."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:50 AM
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They might have evolved to be hornier at this age in order to compensate for their lower SMV. My personal theory is that the sexes are horniest when they are at their SMV nadir: teens/early 20s for men and 40s for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:42 AM
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There was some violence, sure, but to assign power or aggression such enormous importance in relationships seems (to me) to be a mistake. A few men were violent. It's estimated that as many as 50% of men died due to violence in pre-state societies. Source: The Better Angels of Our Nature by Steven Pinker.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 09:54 PM
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It's not hypocritical, it's more so that people flip their sexual perspective when it comes to close relatives of the opposite sex. It's no different than a mother telling her son that he should sow his wild oats or date around before getting married (which definitely happens).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 05:07 AM
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If women weren't attracted to dark triad traits in men, then those men would not exist today as women have been the sexual selectors throughout history and these traits have a genetic component. That some sex was non-consensual in the past is not a counter-argument as consensus among biologists is that the majority of sexual reproduction throughout human history would have required female consent (due to the fact that the majority of women would have had male relatives willing to defend their co…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 07:26 PM
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Perhaps the act itself is pretty similar but there are different implications. Given that women have so much more sexual power relative to men, they need to exercise more self-control on a daily basis in order to remain faithful. Did the woman cheat because her relationship is unsatisfying or because she lacks the self-control to be faithful in general? These questions apply to men as well but for women the consequences of poor sexual impulse control could potentially result in a very high level…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:27 PM
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I wasn’t talking about “creepy old men”. I was saying 25 year old women should consider men 35-40. If a 35 year-old is an old man to you then I don’t think we’re discussing the same reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 04:26 PM
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It may be true that men and women focus "less" on these things as society becomes more equal but women (even very wealthy women) simply do not marry men with less financial resources than themselves with few exceptions and the statistics reflect this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:04 AM
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That's fair and I totally get it. However, women putting a high value on men's looks used to be discouraged by society and with good reason. Many (but not all) women will end up wasting their best years and end up with few or no options for marriage and children if they do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 01:57 AM
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Women waste their own time by dating men their age during their 20s. The man is simply going along with it for sex and companionship. Women hold all the power when it comes to sex and, thus, have only themselves to blame when they wake up in their 30s without a husband or children.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 01:39 AM
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For women: 23-25 they should start getting serious about this if they want it (near women's peak SMV) For men: 35-40 (a man's peak SMV) Ladies, if you're really serious about marriage and kids you should at least be considering men 10 years older. Men in their 20s are not going to want to get married and, if you pressure them into it, they're more likely to leave or stray later on. An older man will appreciate you much more for the prize of your youth. 100 years ago they told women that a man 10…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 01:28 AM
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They do indeed: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/darwins-subterranean-world/201807/how-polygamy-shaped-who-we-are
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:19 AM
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I don’t agree with everything but I also don’t have personal experience as a “sub normie” man. It definitely seems like that would be rough.
/r/ExRedPill27/07/22 03:26 PM
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It’s the overall average. Many men had more than two and many had zero. More recently the numbers were much higher than this as well. Reference: http://awakeningtimes.com/8000-years-ago-17-women-reproduced-for-every-one-man/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 03:20 PM
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I’m not denying it. I’m denying that it is the typical case.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 03:18 PM
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Correct and it is theorized that this represents a minority of human reproductive behavior throughout history not that it is non-existent. Combining that with the long-term genetic average of two women per man (and 4-5 women per man in “recent history”) means that women did consensually choose to share men quite often throughout history.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 03:10 PM
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They cannot determine with certainty but they can make highly educated estimates and models. btw, that argument applies in reverse as well. Just because there is a historical document of a woman being sold does not deterministically mean it was non-consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 03:04 PM
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It is theorized by biologists that it was mostly consensual as all of these women would have had male relatives that would have been willing to resort to violence to protect them (albeit not always successfully).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 02:57 PM
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They are still doing it. See: Nick Cannon.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 02:53 PM
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I think what happens is some combination of: A lot more incel violence Virtual reality More men being gay or trans (since men in environments with no women eventually have sex with each other)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 02:21 PM
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Wheat Waffles has one (of many) good videos explaining the black pill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjlSx6Q8wgA He summarizes it as a belief that negative outcomes (in dating in this case) are permanent in nature with an internal locus of control. In my own words: a black pill is an inconvenient and insurmountable truth about human nature. To be clear, I personally don't think black pill thinking is necessarily pessimistic. The black pill values truth seeking above all else which may end up b…
/r/ExRedPill27/07/22 07:55 AM
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https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:29 AM
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Reversion to the genetic mean of two women for every man successfully reproducing. Or perhaps 4-5 women for every man as it was in "recent history". I don't see any "solution" to this. This is definitely where we're heading imho. It's probably going to be a rough ride. You can already see evidence of this happening in Nordic countries. Reference: http://awakeningtimes.com/8000-years-ago-17-women-reproduced-for-every-one-man/ https://sciencenorway.no/childlessness-fathers-forskningno/a-quarter-of…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:06 AM
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Yes but “tricking out” also means pimping.
/r/ExRedPill16/07/22 12:13 AM
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From reading studies about them, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 03:09 AM
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I agree that men don't get enough realistic education about sex and dating from school or the media. We can all agree that men should respect women, especially with regards to sexual consent. However, we don't really teach men what they should do if they end up severely sexually frustrated. Are they supposed to watch porn? If so, how often? Should they see escorts to take the pressure off? Mindfulness meditation and exercise? Porn and escorts are typically treated as moral transgressions even if…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 02:35 AM
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touché
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 02:00 AM
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Eh, any guy that rich is just playing on garbage time. He'd probably be a quasi-incel without the billions of dollars so I don't give him much credit for getting laid. Even Grimes messaged him first on Twitter. Garbage time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 01:49 AM
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Whatever the theory behind it is, an average gay man in a decent sized city will easily have 100+ sex partners by the age of thirty without even trying. They could easily have 10 new partners in a single weekend. The ones who really try would be in the 4 or 5 digit realm. Access to casual sex will always be severely limited by women for all but the most attractive and high-status men. Edit: I'd also wager that even gay men that don't rate high on sociosexuality still experiment from time-to-time…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 01:35 AM
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This article is 100% true for NYC. When I visited my cousin there many years ago when he was still single, he introduced me to several of his friends. They were all huge dorks with tiny arms and still juggling multiple women and debating with each other which one of their casual hookup girls was hotter than the other. That scenario simply does not exist in San Francisco unless you're a man who checks all the boxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 01:24 AM
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Women want an LTR with these men and they think that having sex will get them that. Women do enjoy casual sex but it's like 5% as much as men do. You can see it in the stats. I read a study a long while back that stated that the average gay man in San Francisco has had 150 sexual partners. Imagine the numbers for the really attractive and promiscuous gay men. Women are the limiting factor in casual sex when it comes to straight men. Even the sluttiest woman can't hold a candle to a slightly slut…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 01:12 AM
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It's not necessarily contradictory. Promiscuity is typically perceived as a positive trait in women for a casual relationship (less initial effort to get sex) but can be perceived as negative trait in an LTR (more likely to cheat). Women have their own form of dual-mating strategy (which is also not contradictory). A tall, handsome man with a shitty job might be desirable for casual sex but not for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:47 PM
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Tricking out like they are sending him money? If they are sending him money every month, he should definitely finish the book.
/r/ExRedPill14/07/22 05:48 AM
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You could use a younger picture of yourself. I’m just interested in the difference in perspective, not interested in bias against older folks. I’m 41 myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:38 AM
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No, she’s not lying. From her perspective that’s the true reason. Experiences shape your perspective. Women report more orgasms from and are less likely to use condoms with attractive men. It’s definitely a factor even though I could be wrong in this case. I was just speculating to give an example of what I meant. I don’t think the OP is obviously BS or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:12 AM
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Here's a better, real example from PPD: "My husband and I have been together nearly 20 years and our sex is still mind blowing freaky porn sex. I actually have always toned it down with FWBs/hookups (we used to be polyamorous) because I didn't trust them enough to be vulnerable and wild." Now, did the poster have less enjoyable and freaky sex with hookups because she "didn't trust them" or because they just weren't very attractive men on average? I would guess that the attractiveness of the men …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 12:57 AM
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Like I said, I understand their system. It sounds good in theory but the members don't apply it consistently (which is the entire point of the sub). Perhaps I need to only follow trusted raters as you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 12:30 AM
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100% agree. I would like to know which perspective I'm reading though and not have to guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 11:37 PM
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I don't think that opinions of ugly people have no value. I'd just like to see for myself how the range of opinions of women is correlated with how attractive they are. It's just something that I'm interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 11:25 PM
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I agree that it's likely a pipe dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 11:24 PM
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No, I would never hit on anybody on reddit unless it was in response to a personal ad they posted. It's interesting that you mention N count though. It's not something I really care about personally but an attractive woman might have very different reasons for having a high or low count than an unattractive woman. Unattractive women are somewhat more promiscuous than attractive women according to surveys (presumably, because they have to be to increase their appeal to the opposite sex). Highly a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 11:21 PM
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I'm not suggesting erasing anybody or treating people poorly. I'm merely suggesting (accurately imho) that someone's attractiveness is a relevant piece of information when evaluating their opinions and experiences regarding dating and the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 11:15 PM
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Yeah Rateme does seem kind of random/too lenient now that I'm looking it over. Truerateme is just dumb though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 11:05 PM
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That's why I suggested r/rateme and not r/truerateme. r/truerateme is a joke (and yes, I understand their "system").
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 10:37 PM
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When women say this about men, they just mean he has/doesn't have enough money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 05:32 PM
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For men, yes. For women, obviously not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 08:17 AM
1

you forgot scheize porn
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:49 AM
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It doesn't easily disprove anything though. The pareto distribution is about who is getting casual sex from women in their prime, not about whether or not these same women eventually wife up some schlub in their 30s.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/22 05:40 PM
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Yes and when women choose "some random" they will likely be choosing a man who is already a father which is what they're doing in Norway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:01 PM
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With men? To have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:49 PM
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See sex workers or go to sex parties to gain some confidence and take the pressure off. In my area, there are regular gangbang parties where the men pay some moderate fee to enter and are basically guaranteed to get laid. That solves the incel problem. If you look at photos of the men at these parties, you will not see any chads there. As for redpill, find some area in your life to focus on and become superior to other men in this domain (not just average or above average). This could be physiqu…
/r/ExRedPill25/05/22 08:06 PM
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I think one thing that is often missed in these conversations (probably because they are mainly focused on and participated in by young people) is there is always an other side to the story. For every advantage that women seem to have, they have a comparative disadvantage and the same thing goes for men. It's the yin and yang of life. Here's some examples: It's easy for women to get relationships and sex but 50% of single mothers live in poverty. Women have a lot of choices but if they choose wr…
/r/ExRedPill25/05/22 07:55 PM
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My personal theory is that reversion to the long-term trend of two women for every man (genetically at least). It's already happening in Norway and they are up to twenty years ahead of us on the gender equality journey: https://sciencenorway.no/childlessness-fathers-forskningno/a-quarter-of-norwegian-men-never-father-children/1401047
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:40 AM
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It actually is probable though that most women at that height are perfectly healthy since 127 is still 15 lbs more than the minimum weight for 5'5" and thus would easily encompass women of varying builds.
/r/ExRedPill07/05/22 01:17 AM
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127lbs for a 5’5” woman is in the normal range. As low as 112lbs at 5’5” is still normal and not underweight. 120lbs is not unhealthy for a 5’5” woman.
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 09:01 PM
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Maybe that's because of your age? Even if you want kids, it's prudent to wait at least a couple years until the honeymoon phase wears off to see how the LTR is really going to be like.. of course, you don't have to do that but it's an unnecessary risk for a man to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:20 PM
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The issue for me with early 30s women is not that they can't look just as attractive as women in their mid 20s (they can), it's that they are going to want to rush into having kids which is a huge turn-off. Also, if early 30s women "accidentally" get pregnant they will probably keep it -- another turn-off. If you're man that has the ability to date either women in their 30s or 20s, 20s is just a better all-around choice in most cases (unless you're a single dad or something like that).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:12 PM
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Good explanation. Another implication of pareto distribution is that 1% of men are having 50% of the casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:05 PM
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Agreed. One thing that nobody seems to understand is that it's not just 80/20.. there is recursion within the 80/20 distribution with 50% going to the top 1%. You see the same thing with wealth distribution. It's not a coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 02:06 AM
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This doesn't debunk the 80/20 rule. The 80/20 rule is about (in my opinion) the lifetime distribution of women's sexual partners. If a given woman has 20 lifetime sexual partners (the last one being her husband) and 16 of those were with chads in her early 20s then 80/20 still holds.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 02:03 AM
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One of the great ironies of women complaining about the personality and behavior traits of men is that women created those traits. Since women are the sexual selectors, the negative traits in men that they supposedly despise would not exist today if women in the past had not procreated with men that exhibited those traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:34 PM
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All through your 20s is 20-23?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 09:56 AM
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Even if you're capable of bedding different women continuously, it still takes a lot of effort and time even for the men that are skilled at it. It gets old after a while especially if you have other ambitions in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 09:44 AM
2

My theory is that there's only one Casanova born per generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 09:41 AM
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dungeon masters
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 01:18 AM
3

what is the alternative though?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 08:41 AM
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What exactly is "late stage capitalism" and what comes after it? Anti-capitalism viewpoints are typically held by those with very little understanding of economics. Capitalism is simply any economic activity or exchange without centralized control. A subsistence farmer that lives off his own land is technically capitalism. The only alternative is a corruption-based system of central management that has failed miserably time and again over the last 100 years -- Soviet factories were vastly less e…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:28 AM
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Women always had agency because they always had male relatives that would have been willing to use violence to protect their agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 01:48 AM
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Men are more shallow about looks. Women are more shallow about material things. Gay men are shallow about both. Presumably, lesbians are shallow about neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:31 AM
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Men's makeup is a fake Rolex or a rented Ferrari.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:15 AM
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You (and likely the majority of other commenters on the thread) are illustrating the classic difference / confusion between what's termed proximate and ultimate causation in evolutionary psychology. The proximate cause of a behavior is the psychology involved in the behavior. e.g. it makes women "feel good" to put on makeup or "they like to express themselves" by wearing form-fitting and eye-catching outfits. The ultimate cause of a behavior is the natural or sexual selection process that shaped…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:11 AM
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late 30s is the SMV peak for men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 01:48 AM
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You're married so this is all garbage time / armchair theorizing for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 01:47 AM
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I'm 41 and I can shoot lazer beams out of my eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 01:45 AM
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I'm a 41 dude and still hot. Reference: married to a hot 25 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 01:38 AM
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Part of the problem is that many men don’t want to be in relationships with women who they perceive as smarter than they are. A 2006 speed-dating experiment involving heterosexual Columbia University graduate students found that when a man thinks a woman is smarter than he is, he becomes less interested in dating her. (Happy Valentine’s Day!) I see these types of studies mentioned frequently as evidence that men are "intimidated" by intelligent or successful women but there's an alternate explan…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:04 PM
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Go to a young/hip bar on a Saturday night and just look around. This isn't rocket science and doesn't need to be. Do you live on the West coast or even in one of the Western states? I live on the West coast myself but if you go to NYC it's not the sausage fest at every bar like it is here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 07:05 AM
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Imagine a woman who has had 20 total sexual partners at age 29. 15 of those were short relationships or one-night stands between ages 18-23. She then has 5 long-term relationships from 23-29. If a decent chunk of those first 15 were "chads" who had or went on to sleep with hundreds of women, then the 80/20 rule would still hold even though this woman seems pretty mild and monogamous at age 29.
/r/ExRedPill18/02/22 06:56 AM
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What is the small amount of thinking that debunks it? It doesn't take a ton of ultra-high status men that sleep with thousands of women each (professional athletes, very wealthy men, etc.) to create an 80/20 distribution of lifetime sexual partners (with ~50% of the 80% going to the top 1% of men). And these men certainly exist. I'm not hardcore redpill or anything but driving around town and seeing couples on the sidewalk doesn't disprove 80/20.
/r/ExRedPill15/02/22 06:52 PM
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What is their lifetime distribution of sexual partners though? If they are hooking up with Chad at 22 and then settle down with an average guy at 29, it doesn't disprove TRP ideology.
/r/ExRedPill15/02/22 06:44 PM
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But most women outside of dating reddits don't know that there are more men than women active on dating sites at any given time.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/22 09:00 AM
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This is average ratings though.. more men on the site wouldn't change this. In fact, more men just means a bigger sample size to accurately measure women's preferences.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/22 07:22 AM
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Those BBWs can get all the sex they want but not a high-quality boyfriend (unless the guy is also fat).
/r/ExRedPill01/02/22 06:40 AM
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21 year-old men are not getting invited on private jets and to yacht parties unless they're gay. Being a hot straight man means it might be slightly easier to get a good job and much easier to get dates but nobody is flying you around the world or bending over backwards to impress you, give you expensive gifts, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 07:43 AM
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Men are more shallow about looks. Women are more shallow about material things. Gay men are shallow about both.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:37 AM
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Women put that in their dating profile because they think it will weed out men that have zero intentions of considering an LTR with them. Of course, it doesn't actually work so it's kind of pointless. If these same men were honest and said they're only interested in casual sex in their profiles, it would actually weed out tons of women so most men won't write that. My sense is that most men are trying to get sex first and they are potentially open to an LTR with the right person if they catch fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:05 AM
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Yes they would still be adamantly against it. Oftentimes, men have a disgust reaction to the thought of sex with the gender they're not attracted to. i.e. straight men are disgusted by the idea of sex with a man and many gay men are disgusted by the idea of sex with a woman (although many of them have also done it before). It's not the same for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:45 PM
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They also say in the study you linked that there is a "cohort effect" due to factors such as changing cultural norms over time. It's plausible, and perhaps likely, that today's disproportionately unfaithful 18-29 women will be tomorrow's unfaithful 30+ and 40+ women. The fact that, in the current era, 70 year old men are much more likely to cheat than 70 year old women is irrelevant to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:22 AM
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from your link: "Among ever-married adults ages 18 to 29, women are slightly more likely than men to be guilty of infidelity (11% vs. 10%)."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:19 AM
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like this post!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:07 AM
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I thought the studies say more women than men cheat now? https://www.bustle.com/p/millennial-women-are-cheating-more-than-millennial-men-a-new-survey-finds-7873841 edit: add reference
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:06 AM
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Women are statistically less likely to be able to regulate their own emotions due to higher Neuroticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:05 AM
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Completely agree with you wrt motherhood. However, when I see this topic being brought up, it's rarely described as the emotional labor of parenting or motherhood -- just relationships. IMO, the implication is generally something along the lines of "men are so emotionally stunted/immature that us women have to pick up the slack", etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:31 PM
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are the men immigrants? I think that sometimes changes the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 09:11 PM
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Lucky. Take a look at r/deadbedrooms and you will find post after post of men convincing themselves to "take sex off the table" so as not to pressure their "low-libido" wife to have sex their usual once a month because it's simply too much for her (even giving an occasional bj is too much for these women because it's "more intimate" than penetration). What an absolute hell on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:55 PM
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touché
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:49 PM
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are they married?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 10:07 AM
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Women are repulsed by desperation. Conversely, women are attracted to disinterest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 10:00 AM
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Overweight female CEO dating handsome high school graduate does not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:02 AM
3

Basketball is also a skill. Some people have more natural ability than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:21 PM
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You could lock down a slutty man who is 10+ years older than you and he’d probably marry you and treat you great. Just be prepared to do plenty of slutty things including group sex, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:19 PM
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Even this is likely to be (I’m guessing) a pareto distribution where 80% of the leftover 20% women go to the top 20% of remaining men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:12 PM
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The long-term average is 2:1 but there were significant periods during the last 10,000 years where the ratio was as much as 15:1 (women to men successfully reproducing).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:53 PM
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slow clap
/r/ExRedPill08/01/22 08:49 AM
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imho, it’s a secondary effect. Men are not intimidated per se. Rather, they (correctly) perceive that they don’t have much of a chance with more intelligent/educated women due to female hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 11:17 PM
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citation?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 08:42 PM
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The thing is we can't really know how the first human communities were because we can't really spot WHERE exactly the first consciously aware group of humans was born. Yes, we can actually. The promiscuity of the females of a primate species is predicted by the ratio of testicle size to body weight ratio of the males (sperm competition hypothesis). Human males fall somewhere in between bonobos (highly promiscuous females) and gorillas (mostly monogamous females) on this metric. Human females hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 08:16 PM
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Men’s pain is front-loaded and women’s is back-loaded. Getting left with a kid for a younger woman also sucks pretty badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 06:26 PM
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It's true but not for the reason you claim it is. Attractive women from a very young age receive the message from other people that their appearance is their primary value to other people. This is why they are generally more insecure than average over losing their attractiveness. Of course, it's possible for the woman in question to still be enlightened enough to realize that physical attractiveness is a superficial quality but they get more messaging than average to the contrary throughout thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 09:41 PM
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Ask an example, take the fact that men prefer a 0.6 waist-to-hip ratio in women due to evolutionary forces. This is reflected in, among many other data, cave paintings. How do ancient cave paintings reflect the current socialization of our time?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 03:42 PM
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I'm a big fan of Occam's Razor. However, the gist of that maxim is that the simplest explanation is the best one all else being equal. In the case of the human mind, we are dealing with something very complex indeed and there is plenty of additional explanatory and predictive power offered by the (extremely well-supported) theories of evolutionary psychology over the armchair folk-psychological varieties.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 09:05 AM
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"Results of our study indicate that survivors of sexual violence seek out tattoo as a non-traditional form of healing. Survivors sought out tattoos as a means of regaining control of their bodies and their environment, reclamation and anti-normative healing and deviance from the patriarchy." Reference: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01639625.2019.1565524
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 08:53 AM
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Uses sex as leverage. Not being sexually or intellectually curious / open-minded. Not taking responsibility for their own mental health / negative emotions. Makes excuses for being overweight and out of shape. No team mindset in a relationship, takes an adversarial attitude instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 06:21 PM
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Tattoos and multiple piercings in women is frequently a sign of mental health issues and/or childhood sexual abuse. Not saying that's their fault or anything.. as long as they are actively / willing to seek therapy then it's not a deal-breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 06:15 PM
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I did say "mostly". In general, fundamental things like mating behavior, survival, psychology, etc. are more likely to be innate and superficial things like fashion are more likely to be influenced by social norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 01:07 AM
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I'm with you but that's actually incorrect. Woke originally referred to a certain type of socially conscious black person in America.
/r/MensRights16/12/21 01:02 AM
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The Blank Slate by Steven Pinker is a great place to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 12:59 AM
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Correct. If you put a toy truck and a doll in front of baby monkeys, the males will pick up the truck and the females will pick up the doll. It goes without saying that baby monkeys don't read Cosmopolitan or Maxim.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 10:21 PM
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Gender roles and behavior are mostly innate and not "socialized". We know this because of, among other things, studies of girls that were mistakenly raised as boys. The doctors mis-assigned their sex at birth due to being malformed and these girls believed they were boys and raised as boys until eventually discovering the truth. It turns out these girls still ended up with female-typical interests and didn't become auto mechanics, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 08:19 PM
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Not to be pedantic, but you’re making a common mistake which is to conflate so-called proximate causes and ultimate causes. People, of course, don’t think in terms of their genes, they simply have certain innate psychology due to evolutionary forces — this psychology is the “proximate cause” of the behavior. The genes that shape the psychology are the “ultimate cause” of both the psychology and behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:46 AM
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I'm neither saying it makes sense nor that it doesn't make sense. There are multiple studies that confirm that this is the case (women preferring more masculine faces during ovulation). There's even a Mythbusters episode where they were able to successfully replicate the result. My relatively naive understanding of why this might be the case is that it aligns with a potential mating strategy for women which is to cuckold the man that has committed to her with the child of a man with superior gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:23 AM
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How does a more masculine face = a more responsible man? A more masculine face is mostly due to in utero testosterone exposure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:02 AM
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Unlikely that's what is going on here as there are other similar studies with similar results (women preferring more masculine faces during ovulation, for instance).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:01 AM
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This explanation doesn't account for the fact that there are presumably a lot of women out there that have great relationships with broke fathers and also women who have bad relationships with wealthy fathers that still take good (financial) care of their grandchildren which would have skewed the result given an accurate enough sample. Given that there are numerous similar studies and results across evolutionary theory (women preferring more masculine men during ovulation for instance), it's far…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 02:48 AM
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Possible but I would guess this is incorrect. More masculine facial features are mostly due to in utero testosterone exposure afaik.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 02:43 AM
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There doesn't have to be a ton of these men to result in a pareto distribution. Something I don't see pointed out very often is that the upshot of the 80/20 rule is that the rule applies recursively as well. Even if 20% of the men are bedding 80% of the women, the distribution is very uneven within the 20% with something like 50% of the women going to 1% of the men -- and even within the top 1% there is another uneven distribution, etc. I've never seen anyone present any empirical evidence to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:29 PM
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I mostly agree with you but the statistics are also true to a certain extent. Wilt Chamberlain once claimed that he had sex with 20,000 women and there are similar claims from other men at the top of the status food chain which, even if exaggerated, are likely somewhat accurate. It's simply a fact that there is a small pool of men with vastly greater sexual access to women than the average man and, thus, there is indeed a pareto distribution of sexual partners when it comes to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:39 PM
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They do. It's been documented that women are more promiscuous when they travel abroad and aren't subject to the same level of social stigma.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:33 AM
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with far greater effort involved.. again, a woman could have sex with 20 men in a single weekend. for most men it would take years.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 01:22 AM
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friends and family is just an example. getting knocked up by a random stranger would have the same effect of ruining a man's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 01:15 AM
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Because a woman could do all of those things in a single weekend if she wanted to. A man could maybe do those things if he worked on it for months/years.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 12:51 AM
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Honestly, not nearly as much as anything to do with sex but perhaps a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 12:27 AM
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Theoretically, yes, But the reality is that men have vastly less sexual power than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 12:25 AM
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I don't really agree with this line of thinking as modern women frequently run criminal background checks on their dates. And don't get me wrong, that's a totally legit thing to do. For women, they care about a men's history of violent behavior for their own safety. For men, we care about a woman's sexual history because a woman that misuses her sexual power can easily ruin a man's life (e.g. sleeping with his friends, family, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 11:56 PM
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It's not that men don't see women as human beings necessarily. I think men are likely to feel unvalued or worthless if a woman is unwilling to do sexual acts with us that they were willing to do with some random guy that she barely knew in the past for a specific reason. By some convoluted logic, we're worth less to her than this other man. Presumably, it wasn't a problem for her in the past and she loves us more so what's the big deal? It doesn't make sense on a rational level and at least some…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 11:49 PM
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